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Wednesday, August 14, 2024

6:30 PM
Topics tracked across meetings:
Brief Verbal Update Urban Forest Management Plan Implementation (I) AB 8915 9/14
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update AB 8796 15/19
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update - Draft Review COM 0015 2/3
Draft Comprehensive Plan 7/7
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of July 10, 2024
5 min · packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 07-10-24 Environmental Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. July 10, 2024 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Draft Urban Forest Management Plan
45 min · Dan Hintz, Urban Forest Supervisor Chris Peiffer, Consultant, PlanITGeo · packet pp.5–143
Topics: Trees
Staff report:
Parks & Community Services P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
4b
Draft Comprehensive Plan
Discussion · 60 min · Stephen Padua, Planning Manager · packet pp.145–177
Topics: Land Use
Staff report:
Community Planning & Development 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
5. REPORTS
5a
Natural Environment Checklist
packet pp.179–180
Staff report:
Community Planning and Development 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
5b
Youth Report
5 min
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
Environmental Board Workplan
packet pp.181–185
Staff report:
APPROVED: 3/13/2024 REVISED: 8/7/2024
0:08 right welcome uh this is the August 14th
0:10 that correct August 14th meeting of the
0:12 ISA environmental board I'm Don mcams
0:15 I'll be chairing tonight's meeting due
0:17 to the hybrid format of today's meeting
0:19 I'd like to start by providing some
0:20 guidelines we have participants in the
0:23 room as well as those attending
0:24 virtually for all meeting attendees
0:26 please speak clearly and pause
0:28 frequently state your name each time
0:30 before speaking for those in the room
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0:36 virtually mute your microphone when not
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0:48 meeting invite to call in board members
0:51 attending virtually please uh to
0:53 indicate your desire to speak send a
0:55 chat and type question or comment or you
0:57 can raise your hand virtually and
0:59 watching for it and wait to be
1:01 acknowledged um we will summarize
1:02 agreement around recommendations at the
1:04 end of each toet and note if there's
1:06 dissent Stacy can we go through
1:09 attendance H Tom Anderson here Davidson
1:14 here Jamie Finch here Raj Ki here K pan
1:19 here Nina June has an excused absence
1:22 Don McWilliams here dixy bear has an
1:25 excused absence Alex Lee tigner has an
1:28 excused absence and newon has an excused
1:31 absence
1:33 Gonzalez
1:35 here and John Smith here and Keith and
1:39 John will be sitting in his regular MERS
1:41 tonight
1:43 and I understand we have somebody that
1:46 would like to speak
1:49 online Hy you can unmute and go ahead
1:53 and make your
1:54 comments sorry do you have more public
1:58 comment okay
2:01 yeah go ahead
2:03 Connie
2:05 okay yes no yes no yes I am uh making
2:09 public comment and because I grind
2:13 through all of these reports in great
2:14 detail I went up level and I sent you
2:17 all the City Vision which I don't know
2:20 that you've actually seen the City
2:22 Vision much and what struck me at the
2:24 end of that Vision was passion for the
2:27 environment and as I read through the
2:30 uh Urban Forest management plan and then
2:33 yet again cruising through the
2:35 comprehensive plan uh you know I
2:39 actually didn't feel passion for the
2:41 environment there seems to be
2:44 instead a a
2:48 management of the
2:51 environment there's
2:54 no uh like vision and value statement at
2:59 the beginning of the comprehensive plan
3:01 that describes isqua and what it
3:06 envisions itself to
3:09 be and so it turns into a plan that just
3:16 says and we've have plans that support
3:18 our plans that support our plans but it
3:21 doesn't say who the town or what the
3:24 town is supposed to be for us who live
3:27 here and that's a big deficit I think
3:30 that it is it is these are simply pieces
3:33 of paper with no soul now what I found
3:38 encouraging is that the environmental
3:41 board has shown this passion for the
3:43 environment in
3:45 unrelentingly making comments and trying
3:48 to attempt changes and Infuse all of
3:51 these things with the spirit of the
3:54 vision and I don't want you to be
3:56 discouraged because it does not feel
3:59 like you're being being supported often
4:02 this is a core value of the community
4:05 and we appreciate your efforts to imbue
4:08 all of our plans with a passion for the
4:11 environment and and insist that that be
4:16 included in all of it thank
4:19 you thank you
4:23 G right first up on our agenda tonight
4:26 Dan hint the urban Force supervisor is
4:29 here to talk to us about the draft Urban
4:31 Force management plan do the minutes
4:34 first oh missed that thank
4:39 you uh on the minutes from last uh from
4:42 the last meeting are there any comments
4:44 questions clarifications that need to be
4:48 added hearing none the minutes are
4:51 accepted okay that's okay all right so
4:55 Dan's here to talk to us about the urban
4:56 Forest management plan uh Dan is joined
4:59 by Feer as I correct his consultant um
5:03 and Dan is looking for some discussion
5:05 around at the end thanks Don um yes once
5:09 again I think I've met most of you but
5:10 um Dan hint the city's uh Urban Forest
5:13 supervisor within our parks and
5:14 Community Services Department um I'll be
5:16 handing it off to Chris here in just a
5:18 minute to kind of take lead on the
5:19 presentation and then we'll both be here
5:21 for questions discussion as it relates
5:23 to the first draft of the city's first
5:26 uh Urban Forest management plan um and
5:29 just kind of you know this was in the
5:30 memo I sent but just a few reminders you
5:32 know this this plan is really meant to
5:33 serve as a road map and guiding document
5:36 for the next decade uh as we continue to
5:38 build our first urban forestry program
5:41 um we've been in development of this
5:42 since last fall we brought this to the
5:44 environmental board in November which is
5:46 really kind of early on um again in
5:49 February to uh discuss some of the uh
5:51 Community engagement steps we were
5:53 planning at the time and then some of
5:55 the internal staff and kind of internal
5:57 plans and City policy review that planet
5:59 G did um and then we have since you know
6:02 developed the uh vision statement uh
6:04 five guiding principles um and then goal
6:07 strategies and recommendations
6:08 associated with each of those principles
6:10 so I know it's a big document shared out
6:13 um I tried to kind of call out those
6:15 sections with the guiding principles and
6:17 those goals strategies and
6:18 recommendations U which is section two
6:21 of the draft report right now is an area
6:23 to focus uh because we really want to
6:25 make sure we feel good about what we
6:26 have in there if missing anything or if
6:28 there's stuff we need emphasize or
6:30 change a little bit before then the the
6:32 last section that has not been uh built
6:34 out is the implementation section so
6:36 really making sure we're feeling good
6:38 about the uh strategies and
6:39 recommendations before that gets
6:41 Incorporated in the second draft of the
6:43 Forex management plan so um that being
6:47 said we have a presentation that will
6:49 recap a little bit of the uh kind of
6:51 steps and process to date and then
6:53 really kind of focus in some of the uh
6:55 kind of key sections and as I mentioned
6:57 those goal strategies and
6:58 recommendations uh including the IAP 55%
7:01 goal and some of the scenarios to uh
7:04 potentially achieve that as well so um
7:06 want to reiterate to you know we're
7:08 bringing this to you tonight we really
7:09 excited to have conversation answers
7:11 questions if we don't get to comments or
7:13 you have other feedback I believe Stacy
7:15 has you know communicated with you all
7:17 that you know pretty much through the
7:18 end of the month we'll um accept
7:19 comments on this first draft before
7:21 updating that and having a second draft
7:23 ready in in September so uh hopefully
7:26 having this adopted by Council towards
7:28 the end of the fall and in November
7:29 numers is what we're what we're uing
7:31 stay on track for here so another
7:33 another couple months of you know
7:34 continuing to build out this first draft
7:37 and bring it to a final draft adopted by
7:39 the city um so on that note I'm gonna
7:42 hand it over to Chris Piper with Planet
7:44 gr consultant he'll kind of tee us up
7:46 here um and then I think I'll take one
7:47 of the slides kind emphasizing what
7:49 feedback we are looking for tonight and
7:51 uh let Chris run with it after that
7:54 great yeah thanks Dan and thanks
7:56 everyone for the opportunity to present
7:57 an update on the urban Forest man M plan
8:00 for isqua the first ever plan uh for the
8:03 urban forest and uh as Dan mentioned my
8:06 name is Chris Pier I'm the director of
8:08 urban forestry Consulting at Planet Geo
8:10 going on 10 years coming in October uh
8:13 as the Director and now the project
8:15 manager for this management planning
8:17 project and just want to recognize my
8:19 supporting staff Alex and Matt who um
8:21 are experienced in policy planning and
8:23 management of trees in the Pacific
8:25 Northwest and they're certified arborous
8:27 that bring insights and uh Tech
8:29 technical expertise to the plan uh so
8:32 what I'll do is I'll share an agenda
8:34 brief overview and then turn it over to
8:36 Dan on our request and before doing that
8:39 though I do want to recognize our time
8:41 together in February that uh had was a
8:43 joint meeting with the board there was
8:45 feedback that you all provided that I
8:47 hope you see in the plan that it's
8:49 captured and we will present on that to
8:51 a degree and in the open discussion you
8:53 know some of those feedback we received
8:55 in February was around interested
8:58 parties to engage with you youth schools
9:00 large uh land owners uh looking at the
9:03 holistic ecosystem approach with the
9:06 understory whether it's invasive or uh
9:09 desirable vegetation and that it's not
9:11 just the trees it's the entire uh Urban
9:14 environment ecosystem and then also uh
9:17 having information available uh you know
9:20 after this project on the city's website
9:22 so that the community can take part in
9:24 the shared vision for the urban Forest
9:27 uh we also looked at ways to achieve the
9:29 canopy goal with you know free tree
9:31 opportunities and what other cities are
9:33 doing like in Belleview uh a board
9:35 member shared an example there and um we
9:38 looked at how this plan aligns with
9:40 other plans uh looking at the clean
9:42 energy initiatives in the comp plan but
9:44 also of course the climate action plan
9:46 isqua IAP uh we looked at defining trees
9:50 versus the forest as a whole looking at
9:52 individual trees and urbanized areas
9:54 versus you know the valuable Forest that
9:57 you're fortunate to have in isqua um
9:59 also how this ties into storm water
10:01 management and green infrastructure and
10:03 other initiatives and uh priorities in
10:05 the city and of course the question that
10:07 comes up oftentimes is funding and how
10:10 to approach that with these new
10:11 initiatives or uh ramping up planting to
10:14 achieve a canopy goal and then aligning
10:17 um also with the park system plan that's
10:19 being updated um currently so that's
10:21 just a quick overview really appreciate
10:24 you weighing in and taking the time to
10:25 read these extensive documents and you
10:28 know separate from the management plan
10:30 itself is an 80 page tree data summary
10:33 document so some of the detail that may
10:35 not be seen in the body of the plan will
10:37 be in supporting studies and and
10:39 reference so just keeping that in mind
10:42 so that's an overview uh where we were
10:45 at how we incorporated some of um the
10:48 feedback you shared and what I'd like to
10:50 present this evening is just going
10:52 through uh an update getting into our
10:54 key findings how that informed the
10:56 long-term framework and then a deeper Di
10:59 into the canopy goal um the requirements
11:02 to achieve such an ambitious goal and
11:04 then we want to have a lot of time for
11:06 open discussion and then as um Dan
11:09 mentioned we'll um at the end of the
11:11 month um be collecting your feedback so
11:14 I'm going to pause there turn it over to
11:16 Dan for um the request that we'd like to
11:19 make of the board and then I'll get into
11:20 the
11:25 presentation yes so kind of touched on
11:27 this already and the memo but just to
11:29 kind of reiterate you know we're looking
11:31 for um feedback from the environmental
11:33 board on progress to date which will be
11:35 recapped a bit here um and Chris kind of
11:38 recapped a bunch of that already uh the
11:40 vision statement and five guiding
11:41 principles that really kind of structure
11:43 the framework of the forest management
11:44 plan um and can goal considerations uh
11:48 you know specifically around um the icat
11:50 55% goal um so any additional feedback
11:53 in general of what to consider when you
11:55 know working towards a final version of
11:57 the usmp uh is that relates to the
11:59 vision statement and guiding principles
12:01 and then kind of the next tiar down the
12:02 goals strategies and
12:04 recommendations um as I mentioned kind
12:06 of feedback on canopy goal
12:07 implementation factors uh and then
12:10 certainly not less important but I you
12:13 know there's a lot of essentially a lot
12:14 of data is in the current conditions in
12:15 terms of the tree canopy uh assessment
12:18 updates the right perryan canopy study
12:20 some of the
12:21 vulnerability um uh you know kind of uh
12:25 discussion around our Urban Forest um
12:28 pref preferred tree list uh lot lots of
12:30 stuff that Chris will kind of touch on
12:31 briefly here um you know if there's any
12:33 feedback or kind of thoughts on that
12:35 section too we we happily cover that so
12:38 uh we'll have a recapping slide of this
12:39 at the end of the presentation too so
12:41 we'll come back to this before we uh
12:43 jump into discussion and Dan would you
12:46 like feedback as we go or would you like
12:49 to wait till the
12:53 end yeah thank you I appreciate the
12:55 question too um I think we'll keep the
12:58 presentation brief so that um your uh
13:01 questions and thoughts um won't get lost
13:03 and we'll make sure to spend enough time
13:04 on those at the end if that works for
13:06 the group but if there's something
13:07 pressing feel free to interrupt thank
13:10 you all right thank you so what I'll do
13:13 now is just provide a brief overview of
13:15 the timeline it was already discussed
13:17 but as a visual um just to show um the
13:20 the path that led us here to our
13:22 presentation this evening and so it
13:24 always starts with what do we have the
13:26 Baseline assessment um as D Dan
13:28 mentioned back in around November
13:30 October November of
13:32 2023 but then we need to take what we're
13:34 finding from the assessment and educate
13:37 and then also gather feedback and uh
13:39 input in uh what the plan uh will entail
13:43 and what the current conditions mean to
13:45 the city staff as well as interested
13:48 parties and incorporating our planning
13:51 processes and those those findings along
13:53 with the engagement findings into the
13:55 long-term framework um that was held um
13:58 just before the this month where we
14:00 drafted those and you'll see that
14:01 incorporated in tonight's
14:03 presentation and then the plan
14:05 development process tying this all
14:07 together telling the story and providing
14:10 the road map on how to achieve a shared
14:12 vision for the urban forest and as we go
14:14 into this feedback period of the draft
14:17 we'll continue our presentations we have
14:19 a few more meetings with interested
14:21 parties and incorporating that into uh
14:25 draft number two in anticipation of the
14:28 park board making a recommendation to
14:30 city council to adopt the plan uh
14:32 towards November of this year and making
14:35 um wrapping up the project by the end of
14:36 the
14:39 year and so uh from our last discussion
14:42 we got feedback on how to engage the
14:45 public in a survey and other means and
14:47 this is just a highlevel summary that
14:49 we're providing of the public survey and
14:51 from the results you see that most
14:53 participants were from squawk Mountain
14:55 neighborhood and isqua Highlands and one
14:58 thing that's unique from my experience
14:59 of doing these is that most participants
15:02 for isqua were between the ages of 35 to
15:05 55 with 40% and 38% uh were over 55
15:09 years old often times it's more of the
15:11 older demographics that participate in
15:13 these surveys so it's a interesting sign
15:17 and when we surveyed uh those
15:18 participants about their interest in
15:20 supporting a city-wide canopy cover goal
15:23 um by planting trees on their own
15:24 property not just the city-led public
15:27 plantings 26 percent Express strong
15:30 interest in doing so and that also tied
15:33 into the University of Washington Evans
15:35 School study um that they were doing as
15:37 part of concurrently with this planning
15:41 project and from the survey we also um
15:44 gathered uh feedback uh on the concerns
15:47 from the public and some of those relate
15:48 to invasive plant species um wildfires
15:52 harmful tree pests and diseases and tree
15:55 related issues like sidewalk damage and
15:57 potential limbs falling
15:59 as well as uh complications around tree
16:01 permitting
16:02 processes and to address these concerns
16:05 we found that 74% of the public support
16:08 management plan actions for green
16:10 infrastructure development uh 68% want
16:13 increased tree planting in underserved
16:15 areas and
16:17 66% uh seek initiatives for Tree Care on
16:20 private
16:21 property and public engagement
16:23 initiatives that they'd like to see
16:24 include volunteer events Workforce
16:27 Development and uh citizen science with
16:30 27% for that so looking
16:34 ahead we see that 86% Envision the urban
16:38 Forest as a refuge for wildlife 76% want
16:42 to enhance the environmental health 71%
16:46 desire uh an expanded Green Space uh
16:49 where it's a network of connected Green
16:51 Space for all communities so you can see
16:53 how that really ties into the canopy
16:54 goal and uh some of the strategies that
16:57 we'll discuss this evening
17:01 and as part of this planning process as
17:03 Dan mentioned there is an update to the
17:05 tree canopy assessment and we completed
17:07 that in 2023 it's an update to the 2019
17:11 assessment and this assessment informs
17:13 strategies to increase tree cover
17:15 prioritize specific areas uh supporting
17:19 what we've heard from the public and
17:21 from our last meeting in Fe in February
17:24 uh we discussed the repairi and canopy
17:26 assessment portion of the of the UTC the
17:29 Urban Tree canopy assessment now this
17:31 slide here summarizes what we found in
17:33 terms of canopy cover change over a
17:35 10year period and from that time uh 479
17:39 Acres of canopy were gained which is
17:42 unique and U we can talk more about that
17:44 we have some potential causes for those
17:46 gains and the data summary report really
17:49 hones in on where those changes happened
17:51 at the neighborhood sub uh planning
17:53 planning sub area as well and also at
17:56 the reparan corridor level
17:59 and so um we also on this slide just
18:02 summarized some of the key factors and
18:04 considerations involved with these types
18:06 of Assessments because this can serve as
18:08 a baseline measurement going forward to
18:10 measure plan
18:13 progress and as part of our request um
18:16 we'd like to get your feedback on
18:18 sections of the plan that was shared um
18:20 in preparation for this meeting this
18:22 evening and so uh this slide just
18:24 provides an overview of some of the key
18:26 components within the current conditions
18:28 section of the plan and we start with
18:31 those tree related
18:33 assessments we then describe the
18:35 conditions of current management
18:37 programs and the feedback we heard from
18:39 City staff and interested parties as
18:41 well as the current and potential risks
18:43 uh and vulnerabilities facing isqua
18:46 trees lastly we tie this all together in
18:49 an evaluation of all urban forestry
18:52 components using uh industry standards
18:55 and uh Frameworks from the US Forest
18:57 Service to doent where is a quiz at now
19:00 with the new urban forestry program new
19:02 Staffing and this plan and where it will
19:05 be in the future by implementing the
19:09 plan so we dive a little deeper and this
19:12 slide uh will provide an example of tree
19:14 related Assessments in the plan's Uh
19:17 current condition section and one thing
19:19 to note here is we utilize the
19:21 assessment data from the green isqua
19:23 20-year implementation guide where we
19:26 gained insights into the urban Forest
19:28 composition position now right now the
19:30 city does not have a comprehensive
19:32 inventory of public trees along streets
19:34 and in maintained areas of parks so this
19:37 data is really crucial for that first
19:39 step of understanding the composition of
19:41 trees across isqua and so um here we
19:44 just see we reworked some of the
19:47 analyses to look specifically at the top
19:49 five uh dominant overstory tree species
19:52 the dominant understory tree species and
19:54 the dominant invasive plant and tree
19:56 species and so that starts to pain a
19:58 picture but you know uh along streets
20:01 and in maintained areas of parks differ
20:04 from what grows naturally so we'll want
20:06 to look at um recommendations around an
20:09 inventory in the future to really
20:11 provide those uh insights into making
20:13 planting and management decisions and
20:16 one thing to note here is that um from
20:18 what we find with this data is that
20:20 generally the forests appear relatively
20:22 young given that Douglas furs are more
20:25 abundant compared to your Western red
20:27 seeders and hemlocks that typically you
20:29 know are um late succession and um
20:32 maturing trees for a maturing
20:36 Forest so now um in the current cond
20:40 conditions section we also provide an
20:42 example of how we evaluated current
20:45 conditions with management plans and uh
20:48 different programs and practices so on
20:50 the left we have this table that
20:52 summarizes key planning elements and
20:55 this includes a brief purpose statement
20:57 about that plan how the plan aligns or
21:00 doesn't align with Urban Forest
21:02 management uh key statements that we
21:04 found in those documents relating to
21:06 urban forestry and any areas where
21:08 potential conflicts exist or uh
21:12 conflicts that may arise if we do not
21:14 properly address it in the management
21:15 plan and this is just paraphrase for
21:18 presentation uh and so then also we
21:21 looked at um in the current conditions
21:23 section some of the existing and
21:25 potential treest and diseases of concern
21:28 and this may have certain management
21:30 implications and so this slide just
21:32 captures some of the concerns with
21:34 Mediterranean Oak and emerald ashore and
21:37 we can talk more about the host species
21:40 and uh potential risk relating to that
21:42 but it is a primary those are primary
21:44 Pest of concern
21:48 there and just as a brief overview this
21:51 slide provides an example of how we
21:53 examine vulnerability of trees in the
21:55 region com to uh in terms of climate
21:57 change and we utilize the climate change
22:00 response framework uh which has these
22:02 online tools to identify common Street
22:05 trees in the Pacific Northwest and these
22:08 are the trees that are least vulnerable
22:09 to increased heat projections so make
22:13 sure you read the disclaimer at the
22:14 bottom this is not intended to serve as
22:16 a tree planting list you'll notice
22:18 invasives on there but it can show you
22:20 what may you know proliferate with
22:23 changing conditions and also uh wanted
22:26 to recognize the city does emphasize
22:28 planting Natives and also to identify
22:30 locally Source seeds for you know
22:32 seedling plantings and and other
22:37 efforts and lastly for the highlights I
22:40 just wanted to discuss the findings from
22:42 the US Forest Services Urban Forest
22:45 audit uh and also the indicators of
22:47 sustainable Urban Forest management and
22:50 just as a um summary this is where we
22:52 document our findings we score it and
22:56 then we can utilize that to develop
22:58 Strate IES in the plan and also have
23:00 that to serve as a monitoring mechanism
23:03 and so this slide just summarizes uh the
23:06 various categories of those elements and
23:09 here's an example of the elements
23:10 pertaining to the trees then we also
23:13 have elements pertaining to management
23:15 and the people that are uh influencing
23:18 and benefiting from the urban
23:19 forest and those elements are ranked on
23:22 a low to moderate to good score and it's
23:25 based on our findings industry standards
23:28 local context and also input from the
23:31 city um staff and interested
23:35 parties and so as a result of this
23:38 process uh we find that each category um
23:42 is then scored and we're able to um
23:45 utilize this to develop strategies and I
23:48 just wanted to point out that this score
23:50 was expected for a new urban forestry
23:53 program with the first ever Urban Forest
23:55 management plan in development with new
23:57 Staffing so this is a starting point and
24:00 there's some Nuance to this but it's a
24:01 good starting point from which you can
24:03 measure
24:06 progress and so I covered this a little
24:08 bit on the previous slides but this
24:10 long-term framework was informed by by
24:13 our planning process and the audit is a
24:15 culmination of the findings from this
24:17 planning
24:20 process and just to really bring this
24:22 home and to illustrate how you know
24:25 we're not just pulling these goals and
24:27 strategies out of the air it's really an
24:29 iterative process informed by data and
24:31 interested parties and so we have um the
24:35 long-term framework cons consisting of
24:38 the vision principles goals strategies
24:41 and smart actions and um as I mentioned
24:45 earlier there's a monitoring and
24:47 implementation component to this plan
24:50 where the indicators and the audit serve
24:53 as a foundation for that monitoring and
24:55 we'll provide the guidance on how to do
24:57 that how to reev evaluate how to um
25:00 apply adaptive management to make sure
25:02 this is a living working document for
25:04 you all to utilize over the next 10
25:08 years and so uh what I'll do now is just
25:11 this is the only time I'll read off the
25:13 slide and I I think it's important to
25:14 read the vision and this was um
25:17 developed in part by City staff and
25:20 interested parties again you know
25:22 Gathering those Vision uh preferences
25:25 from the public survey and from other
25:27 engagement meetings
25:29 and so um this road map towards a
25:32 sustainable Urban Forest is led by this
25:35 vision and it reads isqua isqua
25:37 envisions A thriving Urban Forest where
25:39 a diverse and cared for tree canopy
25:41 strengthens our community for
25:43 generations to come this verdant
25:45 tapestry will enhance our livability
25:47 promote health and well-being support
25:49 wildlife and habitat and contribute to a
25:52 sustainable future for all and so that
25:55 to me starts to exemplify the passion
25:58 around urban forestry um it's a shared
26:01 Vision uh that is needed to achieve you
26:03 know canopy goals and the Ambi ambitious
26:05 goals in the plan but as I mentioned
26:09 this was supported from the engagement
26:11 with uh staff and the public and so we
26:14 just call to attention some of those uh
26:17 some of those related um feedback items
26:20 that were
26:22 shared and so I'll be wrapping up uh
26:25 here with the long-term framework this
26:27 was already provided in the plan and you
26:30 know as a PDF so I won't read these but
26:34 those five guiding principles serve as a
26:36 compus because trees are in an
26:37 everchanging environment there's going
26:39 to be new changes to resources
26:41 priorities you're going to adapt
26:44 strategies as things change but these
26:45 will be your beacon to stay um heading
26:48 towards the
26:50 vision and so those uh guiding
26:53 principles are then supported by the the
26:56 goals for each of those five categories
26:58 and so um they are numbered each
27:01 strategy within the goal are numbered so
27:03 they're easy to reference and circle
27:05 back to when making updates or creating
27:08 progress reports or or sharing with
27:10 interested parties um where you're at
27:12 with the plan and uh the um the action
27:16 tables in the plan will really get into
27:18 the detail around how to accomplish
27:20 those
27:22 goals and lastly for this presentation
27:25 we'd like to provide uh additional
27:27 details uh and considerations for the
27:30 canopy goal that as you all know was
27:32 established in the isqua climate action
27:35 plan the IAP and So based on industry
27:38 standards uh our local consider uh local
27:41 considerations the findings from the
27:43 management plan um uh we incorporated
27:47 and developed a series of scenarios uh
27:49 and targets that detail how the city
27:52 would achieve 55% canopy cover by
27:55 2035 and those scenarios also looked at
27:58 different canopy goals different
28:01 timelines um different variations in the
28:03 large trees that are planted small trees
28:06 and so the next slide talks about some
28:08 of those inputs but here we see some of
28:11 the highlevel requirements and
28:13 milestones for achieving that goal so in
28:16 short approximately 16,000 trees are
28:18 needed over the next 10 years to
28:20 increase canopy cover by
28:23 4% so we'll talk a little bit about
28:25 those inputs and then uh we'll wrap up
28:28 the presentation and get into discussion
28:30 so that 16,000 tree estimate is based on
28:33 uh factors and considerations that we
28:35 prepared uh with input from the city as
28:38 well as interested parties and as I
28:41 mentioned these Dynamic living organisms
28:43 are always changing and so there isn't a
28:46 one method approach to you know
28:48 calculate your canopy goal and what the
28:50 requirements are but we had these inputs
28:53 to help shape that realistic canopy goal
28:56 and the way to implement
28:58 it and so here we see um 51% canopy is
29:04 based on the the current canopy of 51%
29:07 is based on the 2023 assessment using
29:10 2021
29:12 imagery 16,000 trees are needed but this
29:15 means that existing canopy is replaced
29:18 lost we incorporated tital 18's canopy
29:21 requirements which was co-developed by
29:23 Planet geo with the city in 2022 so
29:26 we're leveraging that work into the
29:28 canopy implementation
29:31 process we applied average canopy
29:33 diameters for small medium and large
29:35 trees according to US Forest Services ey
29:38 tree research and that uh we also
29:40 Incorporated there will be deciduous and
29:42 coniferous trees planted and that a
29:45 fairly even split of large medium and
29:48 small canopy trees at maturity will be
29:51 planted also as a shared commitment to
29:54 this Urban Forest Vision we we
29:57 envisioned 7 25% of plantings led by the
30:00 city and 25% through Partners Property
30:03 Owners Community associations and by
30:06 other interested
30:08 parties and other factors that go into
30:11 implementation uh were considered as
30:13 well you know of course the cost and
30:14 we'll get into more of that in the um
30:17 implementation uh and uh monitoring
30:20 section of the plan uh we also looked at
30:23 the data that's needed for evaluating
30:25 progress over time as well as uh what is
30:28 needed in the management plan itself to
30:31 guide this implementation towards that
30:33 canopy cover
30:37 goal so that's an overview of uh the
30:41 project to date I started off with uh
30:44 the timeline and key updates you know
30:46 looking at the public survey the canopy
30:48 assessment that was conducted in
30:50 2023 some of the key sections of the
30:53 current conditions of the plan and these
30:56 inform the long-term framework that we
30:58 provided an overview of from the um
31:00 vision and guiding principles to the
31:02 goals and actions so in the coming weeks
31:05 we're going to meet again with this
31:07 sowal me tribe and that'll round out the
31:09 draft reviews and we'll use this
31:11 feedback to prepare draft number two
31:14 we'll then continue our presentations
31:15 with boards and committees in September
31:17 and October and again we're aiming for a
31:20 city council adoption no in November of
31:22 this year so with that I'd like to thank
31:25 you all again for your attention and uh
31:27 for the opportunity to present an update
31:30 it's been great working with Dan and the
31:32 city on this important effort a lot of
31:34 key uh interesting things that came out
31:36 of this that stand out with over 50
31:39 management planning projects that I've
31:40 worked on and so it's really been a
31:42 pleasure working with you all and I mean
31:44 that honestly and so before getting into
31:46 open discussion just going to recap our
31:49 request and maybe it doesn't need to be
31:51 read off and we can turn to open
31:53 discussion but Dan is there anything
31:55 else to cover before we we move to that
31:59 no I don't think so so obviously any any
32:01 kind of key questions
32:03 clarifications U obviously we'll receive
32:05 comments the time we have on the agenda
32:07 tonight but like I said any anything
32:08 that you can share electron
32:10 electronically with Stacy she will
32:11 summarize get to Chris and I here
32:13 towards the end of the month um or early
32:15 September I believe um and like I said
32:18 I'm happy to happy to chat more about
32:20 this you know one-onone always and you
32:22 know we can talk to is if this you know
32:24 something the board wants to see is a uh
32:27 uh second version of the draft coming
32:29 back too we can see if that we can fit
32:31 that intoo so just want to let you know
32:33 there's still a lot of kind of touch
32:35 points here over the next two months or
32:36 so before we do try to kind of finalize
32:38 move dist
32:40 Council you are our first public
32:42 Outreach onland draft here too good
32:46 thank you Dan thank you Chris um Nancy I
32:49 just have a couple of questions so you
32:51 had talked about not having um uh
32:55 numbers of Street teams trees you
32:57 haven't assess those or trees that are
32:59 in parts so if you don't have that
33:02 assessment how does that fit into the
33:03 canopy numbers that you were talking
33:06 about if you are you just doing it from
33:08 overhead from aial photographs is that
33:10 how you're doing it so you when you talk
33:12 about where we are with our current
33:14 canopy those trees are included in terms
33:16 of their coverage yes we don't know the
33:20 species of them and the of them and that
33:23 type of thing so that's just one
33:26 question and the second question I have
33:28 for you is I know at times we've talked
33:30 to you about how um psc's contractor
33:34 comes through and does their things did
33:36 you do any Outreach to PSC or get any
33:38 involvement from their contractor that
33:41 woulds trees in the city I didn't see it
33:43 in the plan no that's a really good
33:45 question Nancy and not not specifically
33:46 around the plan I've been working with
33:48 psse and BPA around some utility
33:50 clearing they have been doing and and
33:52 centrally tradition plateau and count up
33:54 by Central Park um so we are we are
33:57 tring that better now that information
33:59 is now coming through me it it is
34:01 interesting essentially they kind of
34:03 come to you telling you what is going to
34:04 be removed there is
34:07 a way to get compensated for some of
34:10 those tree removals which is interesting
34:12 and something we're looking at pursuing
34:13 to but you know in terms of the best
34:15 practices things like that I mean we are
34:17 like you know kind of trusting their
34:19 team their arborous but I you know I
34:20 have not seen the conditions that you
34:22 know maybe look like the bad outcomes
34:24 versus you know these are considered
34:26 high danger trees with the you know
34:28 utility line so that that information is
34:30 being shared for instance you know they
34:32 just I don't know if they've actually
34:33 done the work yet but we got
34:34 notification that you know between
34:35 Central Park and tradition Plateau
34:37 there's about 15 to 20 trees coming out
34:40 but two-thirds or so of those are dead
34:42 trees right now so that's you know at
34:44 least at least the tracking I would say
34:46 I feel like we've made a contact and
34:48 being clear that I'd like that to come
34:49 through me moving forward in terms of
34:51 anything that goes the management
34:53 recommendations they don't have to get a
34:54 tree
34:55 permit there's utility exemption
34:58 yeah yeah you're supposed to essentially
35:01 notif I mean that that that does relate
35:03 to our Public Works team too and that's
35:04 something I'm trying to better kind of
35:06 organize communicate around to so they
35:08 they don't need a permit they are still
35:10 expected to replace those trees and that
35:12 kind of gets into some of these goals
35:14 around needing to better identify
35:15 receiving sites it's done very ad HW
35:17 right now in terms of all right two
35:18 trees work can we put two trees in the
35:20 same sub area and it's be pretty tedious
35:23 to just kind of get those requests
35:24 especially if they're kind of short
35:25 notice we need to get the submitted we
35:26 need to have somewhere to put it in
35:27 those generally come through Parks even
35:29 though parks are often not the ones
35:30 leading those projects um so I say
35:33 that's been kind of tricky but yeah the
35:34 utility St for for psse my understanding
35:37 that hasn't been the requirement but um
35:39 for our Public Works team or the rarer
35:42 occasion the parks is moving right away
35:43 trees for safety or utility conflicts
35:46 that is expected be place thanks for the
35:49 answer the question when I just have one
35:50 General piece back on the plan I haven't
35:53 read it in detail one of the confusing
35:55 things to me when I read it is the
35:57 discuss of tree Equity because Equity is
36:00 such a buzzword in this town right now
36:02 in terms of what city's putting out a
36:04 lot of it's housing
36:06 Equity um other kinds of equity and
36:08 calling something tree
36:10 Equity is really starting to muddy the
36:13 water and I maybe it's a common term in
36:17 the tree world but you might want to
36:20 find something else so that you're
36:22 making you're not conflicting it with
36:24 housing equity and transportation equity
36:27 and food and all that other Equity
36:29 that's going on it just really when I
36:32 looked at says now how is equity work
36:34 with trees sure that's just a general
36:37 piece of feedback and it may be the
36:39 right way to go that's that's great
36:41 feedback in Chris may you can add to
36:42 this a little bit more but there is
36:44 American Forest is a National
36:45 Organization you're probably familiar um
36:48 and they they're the ones that created
36:50 this tool essentially the tree equ tool
36:52 which is what is uh cited in in the
36:54 forest management plan so it is it is
36:57 taking in some of those kind of
36:59 socioeconomic demographic factors for
37:01 sure um but more simply it is a tool to
37:05 sort of prioritize where to best um uh
37:09 plant trees based on some of those
37:11 potential shortcomings and it is
37:12 interesting I mean for isqu we have a
37:14 pretty high overall tree Equity score at
37:16 93 but then there are certain
37:18 neighborhoods where that is
37:19 significantly lower in the low 80s 83 I
37:21 think for South Co um Central isqua
37:25 Highland I think Lakeside are the four
37:26 areas that have lower scores I think in
37:28 the 80s generally um so the way I've
37:31 seen it used and once again yeah how we
37:32 how we Define it how we talk about it
37:34 but in terms of a kind of functional use
37:35 of it is a lot of these cities David and
37:37 I have actually had some of these
37:38 conversations we use that tool as a
37:40 prioritization for tree giveaways and
37:42 applications so you know if they get
37:44 more applications than trees available
37:47 um L believe is one of those has been
37:49 using that tool to kind of prioritize
37:50 how they distribute their uh trees and
37:53 also just for our public tree plantings
37:54 too knowing that those are areas we
37:56 really should kind of emphasize
37:57 prioritize and and better plan for so
38:00 the acity conversation I hear but that
38:02 just hope that provides more context on
38:03 how the tool used and where it came from
38:06 that was just feedback because we're
38:07 reading the comp plan at the same time
38:09 and there's a lot of conversation now
38:10 about equity and so when you're reading
38:13 two documents in the same month in the
38:15 same weeks you really see some confusion
38:18 that Happ oh that's just might be
38:24 back um hi Dan hi Chris I'm proud and I
38:28 have a few questions and just some
38:31 feedback um so one of the things I
38:33 noticed and um I'm not sure if I missed
38:36 it but I looked at the draft plan and I
38:38 didn't see anywhere where tree canopy
38:41 was defined like with what exact
38:43 definition of tree canopy is I think the
38:46 introduction needs to have that I did
38:48 read somewhere it was 14 feet height or
38:51 some other stuff mean you can find the
38:53 bits and pieces but it needs to be
38:54 defined in the introduction the second
38:57 question question was um the 55% goal by
39:02 2035 um is this just by on the city
39:06 property City roads it includes the
39:08 private proerties in the entire
39:11 city so that's good to know so that also
39:14 I think needs to be clearly stated
39:16 somewhere in the introduction part so
39:18 it's clear going forward what to expect
39:21 um and so that's good to know because I
39:24 looked at and I think cost somewhere on
39:27 the present ation slides I noticed that
39:29 there was a 490,000 per year cost of
39:33 Maintenance or or planting trees and you
39:37 mentioned that there are 16,000 trees to
39:39 be planted so my question was um you
39:42 know if it's also on Residential
39:44 Properties for the whole Community then
39:47 is there um first question is where does
39:50 the funding for this come from is it
39:52 just the city or is there some taxpayers
39:54 money or is there different tax or how
39:57 is it to yeah so to answer your question
40:00 yes it is it is a pretty high price tag
40:03 on that last slide but I guess the
40:05 caveat to that would be putting in
40:07 listed as caliper trees or or large
40:10 often ball and burlap you know they have
40:11 one to two inch diameter trees and those
40:14 those easily cost three to four to $500
40:16 a piece um and then you know some of the
40:18 installation costs associated with that
40:20 too so that that that I would say is a
40:22 high about as high end of an estimate
40:24 because we do plant a lot of trees there
40:26 are smaller containers or even be roots
40:28 or what we call Liv Stakes which are
40:29 cuting of trees especially in a lot of
40:31 our natural areas and that plant
40:32 material is a lot cheaper in the 5 to 10
40:35 to maybe $15 uh per per tree or per
40:38 plant there um so so just a little more
40:40 context on that kind of cost estimate
40:42 but yes that that is for essentially
40:44 installation and plant material there's
40:47 still a maintenance cost associated with
40:48 that as well that is not as directly
40:50 reflected in there whether that's you
40:51 know the watering pruning things that
40:53 trees need you know young young ages and
40:56 then certainly as mature to um to your
40:59 question on the funding sources yes and
41:01 that's that's a difficult one there's
41:03 certainly some really good urban
41:04 forestry programs there's a lot more
41:06 that state and the federal government
41:07 are are kind of pumping into those type
41:09 of programs so I do believe there are so
41:11 yes they're taxpayer but not necessarily
41:13 coming out of isqua's general fund or
41:15 isqua's tax base so um like for instance
41:19 our tree inventory is something we're
41:20 hoping to fund by the States dnrs
41:22 Department of Natural Resources urban
41:23 forestry program there's some programs
41:26 through as well and then stuff that's
41:28 kind of coming through EPA for urban
41:30 forry but that's that's stuff we do need
41:32 to strategize and kind of
41:35 Rel so I had a suggestion on that um you
41:39 know if there is a deficit to be matched
41:42 um and I don't know if that's
41:43 necessarily a question for that it could
41:45 be for Stacy or it may be a interde
41:48 departmental for the city but the new
41:51 developments and I don't know this the
41:52 new developments which are coming up um
41:55 because usually they will do they have a
41:57 requirement of you some green areas or
42:00 plantings or green belts maintenance
42:02 going forward because of the climate
42:04 initiatives and um so I'm wondering if
42:07 some part of that you know that planting
42:11 cost could be over especially over 10
42:13 years or long-term goals could be
42:16 transferred to the new D either as a
42:19 part of the investment in you know your
42:23 climate initiatives or or as a part of
42:26 incentive for um you know doing a green
42:30 development split City and they get some
42:32 perks because they're doing a green
42:34 development so that is something to
42:36 consider or look for because I know some
42:39 of the especially with the lead you know
42:42 um your lead certifications lot of
42:45 buildings want to do more of the green
42:48 planting areas and stuff like that so I
42:51 don't know that is something under
42:52 consideration but that could be
42:54 something which will be checked
42:58 thank you and Don Keith is not showing
43:01 up here but Keith does have his hand
43:03 raised okay I'll get to you after I get
43:07 to the table here Jamie thanks Don um
43:11 one question like it would be Chris
43:15 touched on that we've added I think like
43:17 480 Acres or
43:19 some amount of tree canopy in the last
43:23 whatever the time period I think it was
43:25 2011 years yeah it would be great one of
43:28 the things I didn't really get from
43:30 reading through was kind of one any
43:33 learnings from that that we would be
43:35 applying to what we're going to do going
43:36 forward because that seems like a fairly
43:38 good increase in canopy and two kind of
43:40 best practices are like and this might
43:43 not end up in the final plan but I just
43:44 don't remember having heard like what we
43:47 see from neighboring jurisdictions that
43:48 has really worked and I'm sure Don
43:50 probably has a bunch of ideas from from
43:52 Bell but like that's something that I'd
43:54 be curious like best practices around
43:57 Forest management that we've and I'm
43:59 sure Chris and I'm sure that's all
44:01 coming in but I'm curious on the like
44:03 where what's our kind of what are the
44:05 parallels what are the cities we're
44:06 looking at that are kind of our peer
44:08 group that we want to really aspire to
44:10 be like
44:12 so just something that uh that maybe is
44:15 context for the forest management plan
44:18 maybe it's not in the actual plan but
44:20 something that might be help fer one
44:22 question I had
44:24 was I noticed that the park board was
44:26 going to be one making the final
44:28 recommendation on this is is this going
44:31 to be a plan that they're most closely
44:33 tied to I guess I'm surprised that this
44:35 wouldn't be an environmental board like
44:37 topic area that's that's a good question
44:40 I mean I I I think it's somewhat based
44:42 on my position my role being based in
44:45 Parks the fact that you know over our
44:47 public land, 1500 plus acres as part of
44:50 parks and Open Spaces Parks does manage
44:53 not that the park board necessarily
44:54 touches on it much but parks manag is a
44:58 pretty good majority of rways and trees
45:00 in the built environment to I mean I
45:02 should say it's a pretty healthy mix
45:03 between parks and public works but it's
45:05 part of um part of parks responsibility
45:07 too so that's sort of what I've been
45:10 following by leadership but you know if
45:12 that's something that we can talk about
45:15 or I don't want to mess up schedules too
45:17 much but if that's something that
45:18 September we're able to bring both those
45:20 boards together again um for for
45:23 recommendations on the second draft I
45:24 mean that's something we're certainly
45:25 open to so yeah and I'm I think that
45:28 that's one topic I think the ongoing
45:30 piece because I think it sends a kind of
45:33 a strange me like Parks Board they like
45:36 their knowledge and what they focus on
45:38 most of parks and some of parks is green
45:41 space but they're not really they're
45:43 also talking about fields and things
45:45 that are explicitly not canopy so I just
45:48 think it's it would be kind of uh it
45:51 would be strange especially because so
45:52 much of this is tied to the the IAP and
45:54 the canopy goals as well as wild life it
45:57 just seems like a weird mix that uh and
46:01 I'm I think the short term is one thing
46:02 but the ongoing like this is just
46:05 something a topic that I feel like this
46:06 board should be really engaged upon and
46:08 so not plus we get to see Dan more so I
46:12 think I just think that's something that
46:15 Stacy and Dan I would just ask you guys
46:17 to go and ask that question is is it
46:19 really right that probably is based on
46:21 reporting is that the right is that the
46:24 right answer for how this should work um
46:26 and then I had a question similar to
46:28 prage which uh around like the
46:31 definition of canopy um because I think
46:34 it's one point it said that canopy
46:37 doesn't typically count until five to 10
46:39 years from planting is that yeah that's
46:42 14 foot requirement yeah a lot of trains
46:44 we plant today and so is our 50 55% goal
46:49 everything needs to be above that height
46:50 because I guess I'm thinking back 10
46:52 years from 2035 is next year which
46:55 implies that we basically to have all
46:57 the trees in the ground that we would
46:58 need so that's why I'm trying to like I
47:00 understand we're getting the trees in
47:01 the ground with this plan but it doesn't
47:03 actually hit timeline to that I'm just
47:06 curious on yeah so Chris can clarify but
47:08 my understanding is part of the reason
47:09 we modeled that using caliper trees or
47:11 kind of larger what we kind of often
47:13 refer to as Street trees you know those
47:15 are often six seven even eight feet to
47:17 start so those can achieve that canopy
47:20 status a lot quicker than you know some
47:21 of the be rout or one or two gallon
47:23 trees that we plant you know on Creek in
47:25 places like this um so that five to 10
47:28 years is is is a rough estimate but yes
47:30 to your point I mean it does get to a
47:32 point you know trees are planting in
47:33 probably 20 31 2 3 four five are not
47:37 going to be contributing to that but a
47:39 lot of what I believe is modeled you
47:41 know based on the square footage of
47:43 large medium you know kind of these
47:44 General buckets of size of trees is with
47:47 the anticipation that those are growing
47:49 and and you know contributing to that
47:50 Target plus you know some of the stuff
47:52 that we've already obviously planted in
47:53 the last five or so years 10 years have
47:55 not yet
47:58 yeah I'm just curious yeah no and I'm
48:01 just curious if I think we're we're
48:03 saying in the plan that we have a plan
48:05 to get to the the 50F perc I'm not
48:08 actually and maybe someone's run the
48:09 numbers on this but it seems like we
48:11 might not actually be able to get there
48:13 even with that if we hit that plan we
48:15 might not it is ambitious I don't want I
48:18 don't want to say we we can't but I mean
48:20 there's considerations around cost
48:22 feasibility time frames um and then
48:24 certainly other other factors relates to
48:26 in which we touch on the plan Wildfire
48:28 preparedness you know defensible space
48:30 things that the State Bowling code is
48:31 working on and could have some big
48:33 implication implications on development
48:36 and Redevelopment as CL the near future
48:39 here
48:40 yeah okay and then I had just two other
48:44 points one um I I I know some of the
48:48 current conditions started to touch on
48:49 like what the planable area and just
48:53 kind of the what what within right
48:54 paring areas and other kind of high
48:57 important area like critical areas not
48:59 otherwise like that was a part of the
49:01 current conditions I didn't see that as
49:03 heavily and I know it's draft but a lot
49:05 of the goals and strategies that like we
49:06 have the 55% goal we don't and we talk
49:09 about priority areas priority areas is
49:11 never defined that's probably something
49:13 I'm assuming will happen at some point
49:16 but to me Priority areas are things like
49:18 riparian areas the the things that are
49:20 going to really critically like impact
49:23 areas that there's lots of wildlife
49:25 biodiversity that to me that that didn't
49:27 come through in the current goals and
49:30 and strategies so I that that's
49:31 something I think really needs to be and
49:34 I I do want to make sure like we talk a
49:37 lot about tree equity which I understand
49:39 but at the same time I think we need to
49:40 be thinking as well about where is it
49:42 going to have the most kind of habitat
49:45 value where where is canopy gonna like
49:48 around uh streams where it's going to be
49:50 reducing water temperatures those are
49:53 considerations that I feel like are
49:54 getting maybe shoved aside a little bit
49:57 I think should be a really important
49:59 consideration that we have to consider
50:01 all the other things but that just feels
50:02 like it's not as Central as as maybe it
50:04 should be within what is drafted within
50:07 what's there that's really good feedback
50:09 and I would say that was certainly the
50:10 impetus of why we wanted to include a
50:12 riparian subset to the tree canopy
50:14 analysis essentially establish a
50:16 baseline with most of these analysis you
50:18 know you are doing current data which
50:20 once again there's a lag of the lar
50:22 being available and the high resolution
50:24 to you know so essentially everything
50:25 we're talking about yes is 2,000 to
50:28 2021 um for ripering we Ed 2017 as a
50:31 baseline year since we already had a lot
50:33 of the um that's you know what we use
50:35 for the original tree canopy assessment
50:38 um but yes I I I agree that I think
50:40 that's something Chris we we can and
50:41 should chat about you know are we
50:43 setting you know goals around riper and
50:46 canopy obviously we have recommendations
50:48 continue to track that but to to what
50:50 end I think yeah because what I would I
50:52 would hate to see happen if like it's
50:53 only looking at neighborhood level where
50:56 only trying to prioritize in the
50:57 neighborhoods but we're not looking at
50:59 where is there actually high value like
51:01 I think that's one of the things that um
51:04 I forget the the sewer M master plan or
51:07 where they were focusing on critical
51:09 areas where they were going to try to
51:10 get um septic migrated to sewer like
51:13 that I thought was a great way like a
51:15 great parallel here of like how do we
51:16 make sure that the highest value areas
51:18 that we can get canopy for the
51:21 environment for FL and Fa that that was
51:23 going to happen um and then
51:27 the oh one thing that Tom I think
51:29 brought up last meeting last time this
51:31 came through that I didn't see mentioned
51:33 was how to drisk planting trees for
51:37 developers and Commercial like people
51:39 that are are larger land owners um
51:42 because they might see it as a as a as
51:45 something they if they once they plant
51:46 it they could never develop that space
51:47 or they decreasing the value of their
51:49 land so that's something that um it
51:52 seems like there might be opportunity
51:54 there to to evaluate and talk to some
51:56 business owners talk to some large
51:58 landhold holders that are that have
52:00 commercial properties to see if that is
52:01 a a concern um because I think that that
52:04 would be a huge if there's something and
52:06 I don't know what the right mechanism is
52:08 but if there's a way to help drisk
52:10 planting trees if they're seeing that as
52:13 a as a barrier because they think it's a
52:15 potential something they can't come back
52:17 from and that they would devalue their
52:18 land that I think is is a a big
52:21 potential upside and then the last
52:23 thing is um I
52:27 I know we talk about tree selection one
52:29 of the things that Dan you will know
52:31 this a thousand times better than anyone
52:32 in this room but I think that there is a
52:35 correlation between conifers having
52:38 better whole better ability to keep out
52:41 invasives
52:42 especially than deciduous and so I I do
52:45 think that in some of our areas we may
52:47 that's something to consider is like
52:49 long-term habitat kind of sustainability
52:52 or ability to repel um invasives and and
52:57 you would know that better that's
52:58 something I think isn't mentioned that
52:59 maybe should be mentioned or considered
53:02 in the selection of
53:04 TRS Jamie we have about 10 minutes
53:07 discussion left so Jonathan just make
53:10 this quick I'm just kind of curious on
53:12 how this how this will works you're
53:14 going to take this plan to the council
53:15 this fall um are you requesting a budget
53:20 this fall no the the main budget item
53:22 that we have request that process is
53:24 already underway we did have the first
53:26 touch point with the the SSP we can just
53:28 spell that out the Safety Services and
53:30 park subcommittee of our Council um just
53:33 a few weeks ago uh is is for a train
53:35 inventory and we're hoping to be able to
53:38 fund most of that with Grant funds but
53:40 that that's the main item we're putting
53:42 in there will be need to be
53:43 conversations on um getting creative
53:47 around finances for some of these other
53:48 kind of short-term goals so will you
53:50 have a a commitment are you reaching
53:54 trying to get a commitment for a 10-year
53:55 plan or is it going to be something that
53:57 needs to be taken to the board the
54:00 council every every year for that's a
54:03 good question and I mean that's the type
54:04 of feedback that we'd love to hear I
54:05 mean I think we are looking at
54:07 commitment for a 10-year plan but is
54:08 there a you know kind of fiveyear audit
54:10 we want to look at or you know kind of
54:11 one of the intervals we talked about
54:12 intervals for some of the metric updates
54:15 like the Urban Tree canopy once we have
54:16 a tree inventory there's recommendations
54:18 around how often you're trying to update
54:20 some of that data as it relates to
54:21 individual trees but um that's a really
54:25 good question yeah
54:26 I was not the impression we' be taking
54:28 it for like re-approval every year or
54:30 two years but essentially trying to
54:32 revisit progress as Chris kind of talked
54:34 about adaptive management possibly you
54:36 know shifting goals and approaches as
54:38 needed based on you know current
54:39 conditions and then new data and stuff
54:41 like that but um you know I think it
54:43 would follow a little bit like IAP you
54:45 know there's you all just went through
54:46 kind of the mid mid fiveyear right um
54:48 kind of review so I could see there
54:50 being a similar process to that you you
54:52 do see a lot of cities that have been
54:53 developing these plans a little bit
54:54 longer you know doing their 10 updates
54:56 already so I mean I think that would be
54:58 the next major update so if this gets
55:01 approved will you have any budget to
55:04 start planting trees next year some but
55:07 maybe not as much as we um hope or need
55:11 to reach some of those G scenarios
55:14 around the 55% goal that's just kind of
55:16 the reality of what I've heard from some
55:17 of our leadership but without getting
55:19 too much into you'll have to work to get
55:22 some grants go into grant search mode
55:26 yeah and we already are kind of starting
55:27 that like said around the tree inventory
55:29 around plant material we do have our
55:31 tree fund which we're going to try to
55:32 better utilize which was essentially
55:34 developers paying into that when they
55:35 can't meet tree canopy retention or
55:37 planting requirements so but yeah it's
55:40 it's it's it's limited in terms of
55:42 meeting that that specific 55% goal with
55:45 the projection there but it's not to say
55:46 we don't have anything or there AR to
55:49 about
55:50 that it just seems like you need to
55:52 start planting trees today or as soon as
55:55 this gets appr to meet
55:59 55% all
56:03 right uh so 16,000 trees planted and
56:08 11,000 and something city Le planting do
56:12 you have the next next level of
56:14 breakdown of like where are you going to
56:15 squeeze all those in is that part of the
56:18 plan or is that left as an
56:19 implementation detail that's a bit more
56:22 of an implementation detail but Chris
56:24 anything you want to add on that
56:26 yeah thank you um and I did also want to
56:29 note that uh Keith Gonzalez had a
56:31 question so um but I I just want to
56:34 provide a visual this is um from an
56:36 earlier assessment through King County
56:38 but here we're looking at isqua and so
56:40 this just gives a visual of some of the
56:43 priorities um and what we're
56:45 incorporating in the implementation uh
56:47 section of the plan is a tiered approach
56:50 you have the Citywide possibly the
56:52 neighborhoods and planning sub areas
56:54 drilling down to different themes uh
56:57 like you know shade over reparan
56:59 corridors looking at connectivity that
57:01 we heard Wildlife biodiversity storm
57:05 water management and then um using these
57:08 data sets to look at more localized um
57:11 priority areas and these will be Maps as
57:14 well as uh GIS files to for the city to
57:17 utilize overlay with other um shape
57:21 files other layers to really see where
57:23 the conflicts are and where those
57:25 opportunities will be um so yeah there
57:28 is another step to this when we finalize
57:30 the long-term framework is those um
57:32 supporting studies and the
57:35 implementation aspect and on the side of
57:38 cost we will be providing an extensive
57:40 analysis and summary of funding
57:43 mechanisms um from the local level all
57:46 the way through to some of the examples
57:48 Dan shared at the state and federal
57:49 level um because that is going to be a
57:52 challenge and then lastly just wanted to
57:53 mention um it is a escaping me now the
57:57 planting per per year is an average we
58:00 know that cities need to scale up
58:02 efforts and then keeping in mind that
58:04 those lower cost items like the live
58:07 Stakes seedlings and and other uh means
58:10 not just large caliper trees so a lot
58:13 more that we can um share but hopefully
58:15 that helps with the implementation
58:18 question that was asked about like more
58:20 of a localized more granular level or a
58:23 granular level of priority area
58:27 um so I'll I'll get this um online GIS
58:30 GIS map off your screen but that was
58:33 hopefully to provide a visual that there
58:35 are a lot of factors that will go into
58:37 uh priority areas okay well I did I have
58:40 kind of a follow on that relates to that
58:42 now I know that detail we're not going
58:44 to get to but there's a particular
58:46 property that's close to where I live
58:48 that I'll just use as an example the
58:50 former hope property on Front Street
58:52 South uh you know the city is owned it
58:55 for like 10 years or so and and the city
58:57 is gradually turning it into a
58:59 Blackberry Farm well okay by default
59:03 because that's what happens all right so
59:04 there's a perfect example of a city city
59:07 held piece of property which could be
59:10 enhanced with some tree planting on it
59:12 so I would hope that that would be
59:14 silver on the list of of areas to plant
59:17 but it then leads me to another point
59:21 that okay maybe there needs to be a new
59:25 little step somewhere in the process of
59:27 City acquisition of land a tree canopy
59:32 evaluation when the property is
59:34 evaluated that would trigger a step of
59:38 well hey yeah we have an opportunity
59:40 here and we should uh do some planning
59:43 so that's kind of a separate process
59:45 from this overall Urban Forest
59:48 management plan but it would help
59:51 address situations like that where okay
59:53 we've acquired this parcel and rather
59:56 than just sitting there doing nothing
59:58 with it must take this opportunity to
1:00:00 trigger that step to cause a some tree
1:00:04 planting in the near term rather than
1:00:07 many years later so that's one
1:00:10 suggestion uh my next question is uh how
1:00:14 this is going to how ladder fuel
1:00:17 reduction will factor into uh this plant
1:00:21 or is that do you envision that as
1:00:23 something we're we're not mat sure
1:00:26 enough in our tree planning to start
1:00:28 talking about that and we'll we'll do
1:00:31 that as a as a subsequent step or I
1:00:34 think that's part of the Adaptive
1:00:35 management essentially we're referring
1:00:37 in here to this plan to some of the
1:00:39 State Building Code updates that have
1:00:41 been proposed and and and subsequently
1:00:43 delayed a bit in terms of defining that
1:00:45 Wildland Urban interface if you saw the
1:00:47 first map that came out for that that
1:00:48 DNR put together kind of for a different
1:00:51 intention but then got used for
1:00:52 defensible space it's it's essentially
1:00:54 all of as a so I mean it's theoretical
1:00:57 if that were to be followed that you
1:00:58 know 10 to 10 feet to 30 feet from
1:01:01 buildings we're just not going to have
1:01:02 tree branches or trees so that that
1:01:04 would be pretty Monumental if that sort
1:01:07 of happens but I think you know part of
1:01:09 the delay in my understanding we're
1:01:10 working a lot with Jared Schneider who's
1:01:11 the city's emergency response manager
1:01:13 he's really the one tracking a lot of
1:01:15 this um is is to just you know have a
1:01:17 have a better understanding of uh you
1:01:19 know when those things are phasing what
1:01:21 they look like but I think right now
1:01:22 they're really trying to better
1:01:23 fine-tune that map of Wildland Urban
1:01:25 base certainly a lot of parts of the
1:01:26 city that that should and will qualify
1:01:29 but then some of the cor spots whether
1:01:30 we need to have that stric of defensible
1:01:32 space standards a lot of that is at the
1:01:34 state level and not necessarily City
1:01:35 decisions we're really tracking that at
1:01:37 this point so you know I mean if we run
1:01:39 really gungho on the ladder fuel
1:01:41 reduction you completely erase whatever
1:01:44 gains no It's
1:01:47 Tricky um and as soon as we have a
1:01:51 wildfire somewhere on the slopes of
1:01:53 squawk or tiger it's going to be the
1:01:55 most important thing suddenly but um
1:01:59 it's it's a factor that I worry about
1:02:03 anyway and we're gonna have to find a
1:02:05 way to balance that
1:02:06 out uh that's all I got thank you Tom I
1:02:10 do want to recognize our last two
1:02:12 comments so Karan and then Keith and
1:02:14 then we're gonna end this okay hi so uh
1:02:17 during the survey uh very large
1:02:20 percentage of the survey respondents
1:02:21 were over the age of 35 so I was
1:02:23 wondering if there was any intention on
1:02:24 doing any altering the surveys to get
1:02:27 younger audiences opinions yeah that's a
1:02:31 good question we did try to meet with
1:02:33 some groups we you know we we brought
1:02:35 this to ISA garage and kind of got
1:02:37 feedback that way I'm not sure how many
1:02:38 of them actually submitted the survey
1:02:39 but we had a kind of focus group there
1:02:41 of about five to 10 um High School age
1:02:44 students as part of the the team garage
1:02:47 there we did a lot of work with Gibson
1:02:49 and actually one of your um current
1:02:51 members who's not here Min Jun was an
1:02:54 intern with the urban forestry program
1:02:55 with other gib's next students so we we
1:02:57 did try to bring this to them both in
1:03:00 kind of conversation presentations and
1:03:02 also tried to kind of share the survey I
1:03:03 don't know how successful like said it
1:03:04 was getting survey result we we did try
1:03:06 to kind of tap into a few kind of youth
1:03:09 group connections we had but I will
1:03:12 admit that was an area that was probably
1:03:13 a bit
1:03:15 lacking that's all thank
1:03:18 you all right
1:03:20 please yeah thanks um I just had a
1:03:23 question about the forest service
1:03:24 standards that you brought up as a kind
1:03:27 of a metric to grade the the program on
1:03:29 um I was sorry if I missed it is is that
1:03:33 um kind of a real Guiding Light for the
1:03:35 program or is it just a helpful
1:03:36 Benchmark I was wondering if there's any
1:03:38 mechanisms for accountability to
1:03:41 that yeah I'll take the question Dan if
1:03:43 that's all right that's great yeah so um
1:03:47 it more to the latter it's a um
1:03:50 supporting evaluation in what we're um
1:03:54 recommending in the plan
1:03:56 uh so we first go through all of the
1:03:58 other processes of developing the plan
1:04:01 the planning processes and Gathering
1:04:03 those inputs and then summarizing each
1:04:06 of those along the way and we start to
1:04:08 see these Trends and commonalities along
1:04:10 each planning element whether it be uh
1:04:13 more inclusive or uh more encompassing
1:04:16 engagement whether it be best practices
1:04:19 for maintenance and management um you
1:04:21 know better planting protocols and
1:04:23 post-planting Care those things start to
1:04:26 rise above to the surface um and then
1:04:29 when we do those audits those
1:04:30 evaluations that's kind of a gut check
1:04:33 to see did we miss anything and through
1:04:35 that qualitative assessment see like
1:04:38 whoa this this category is very low
1:04:40 where are we addressing that with what
1:04:42 we've heard and how the strategies are
1:04:44 being shaped so um that is yeah it's a
1:04:47 supporting tool it's uh based on
1:04:50 initially back in 1997 a model of urban
1:04:52 Forest sustainability where we have
1:04:55 those Cate ories of the trees the
1:04:57 management the people and then in 2011
1:05:00 it was adapted to the criteria and
1:05:03 indicators of sustainable urban forestry
1:05:06 and so now today 2024 we've modified and
1:05:11 adapted and updated those audits to be
1:05:14 more specific and relevant to urban
1:05:17 forestry today so it's um evolving and
1:05:21 the last thing I'll mention is that it
1:05:24 we are working it into the monitoring
1:05:26 aspect of the plan because you know if
1:05:29 you document your methodology for
1:05:31 scoring from low moderate to good on
1:05:34 that table that I shared then as a team
1:05:37 like the city which is really cool to
1:05:38 see has the tree team across multiple
1:05:41 departments as you all convene maybe
1:05:43 that's the group plus these boards and
1:05:45 say where are we at now and well this is
1:05:48 low but I think we're at moderate and
1:05:50 have that discussion it's a learning
1:05:53 opportunity update that score and now
1:05:55 that's a progress report that you can
1:05:57 share with the public and interested
1:05:59 parties so um a long-winded answer but
1:06:02 that really is a the heart of Planet
1:06:04 gu's planning process so I'm glad you
1:06:06 asked that
1:06:09 Keith thank you Chris um I have several
1:06:12 comments for you but for the sake of
1:06:13 time I will email you those although one
1:06:16 point um that we should mention is
1:06:19 there's been comment both by the public
1:06:21 and I think you heard it at our last
1:06:22 meeting here about the importance of the
1:06:24 under story and the next is the overall
1:06:26 Forest um I'd like to see more emphasis
1:06:29 on that along with the Forest Edge on
1:06:31 how that plays
1:06:34 in thank you and so next steps for the
1:06:37 board I will send out a reminder but
1:06:39 we're looking for any written feedback
1:06:41 by the evening of the 2 and then we'll
1:06:44 be compiling that into a letter to send
1:06:46 out for review and approval uh with
1:06:49 submission to Dan on
1:06:52 the is that same letter going to go to
1:06:54 council or is that that will go to the
1:06:56 park board and then will be included in
1:06:58 packet St Council or the council
1:07:04 committee thanks
1:07:08 everyone thank you all for your time
1:07:13 care with that we'll roll right into our
1:07:16 next topic and we're talking about the
1:07:18 the draft comprehensive plan uh
1:07:20 Stephen's here to talk to us about it
1:07:22 tonight there's a memo that you were
1:07:25 given in your
1:07:30 packet we're going to be reviewing the
1:07:32 memo just general memo and then there's
1:07:34 an attachment that Stephen created for
1:07:36 us that gets into more of the details
1:07:40 Stacy if you want to start stop yeah so
1:07:44 um the way we are planning to approach
1:07:47 this tonight is first um Don and I were
1:07:51 going to talk through some of the major
1:07:52 themes that we heard from the board on
1:07:56 the non- environment Element Section so
1:07:58 we're going to focus there first and we
1:08:01 want to make sure that we're accurately
1:08:03 capturing um high level summary and
1:08:06 those themes and then we were going to
1:08:08 move into the environment element and
1:08:10 walk through those comments one by one
1:08:13 first starting with those that David and
1:08:17 I thought might be best move to a um
1:08:21 conversation when we start updating the
1:08:23 IAP Al that's part disc s and then we
1:08:26 would move through the other ones to get
1:08:28 agreement from the board on what changes
1:08:31 you want to see now in the
1:08:33 environment so bit of a three-part
1:08:36 discussion first non- environment
1:08:38 element make sure we're summarizing
1:08:41 correctly and then move into the
1:08:43 environment element that we'll divide
1:08:45 into two two sections of
1:08:49 conversation that work for folks this is
1:08:52 a little complicated so we've been
1:08:54 trying to figure out the best way to
1:08:56 present all
1:08:59 this and this is blurry for the group
1:09:03 Stephen are you you're on with
1:09:09 us great all right so Stephen's here to
1:09:13 help answer
1:09:17 questions okay um well first I did want
1:09:20 to just say thank you very much I know
1:09:23 board memb spent a lot of time reviewing
1:09:25 the document provided some really great
1:09:27 feedback and staff have gone through all
1:09:29 that feedback we want to make sure we're
1:09:31 accurately
1:09:32 reflecting um that feedback as uh the
1:09:36 comprehensive plan is going to the
1:09:39 planning policy commission as well as to
1:09:41 the council later this
1:09:44 fall um so we'll just walk through maybe
1:09:49 a a summary of what we captured from the
1:09:51 board's feedback Don do you want me to
1:09:54 do that or do you want to you
1:09:56 can walk through it by element like we
1:09:59 discussed yeah can you put that document
1:10:04 screen
1:10:14 sure so the overall themes we heard um
1:10:17 from the board on the land use element
1:10:19 where sustainability Focus um having the
1:10:23 comp plan being truly sustainable
1:10:25 towards the natural environment CLE
1:10:28 defining productive capacity of high
1:10:30 quality natural areas and considering if
1:10:33 this should fully focus on land use or
1:10:36 integrated
1:10:38 elsewhere policy clar Clarity and
1:10:41 integration terminology and policy focus
1:10:44 with land use section need view to avoid
1:10:46 conflicts ensure alignment
1:10:48 sustainability goals language train
1:10:50 management Wildlife cohabitation and R
1:10:53 water capture development strategies
1:10:56 exploring diverse strategies for
1:10:58 increasing NE density Beyond cluster
1:11:00 housing assess policies on bability and
1:11:03 Equity to ensure they align with the
1:11:04 broader development gos neighborhood
1:11:08 standards updating the standards to
1:11:10 support effective density increases
1:11:12 neighborhoods while maintaining
1:11:13 environmental
1:11:15 considerations wildlife and habitat
1:11:17 inclusion ensuring wildli habitat
1:11:19 policies are integrated throughout the
1:11:21 relevant areas these are the The General
1:11:25 themes that we plan to include in the
1:11:27 letter that goes forward I read them
1:11:29 because it's very hard to read up there
1:11:32 so if they're these are
1:11:35 accurate I think we can agree that this
1:11:37 will be in our letter that's going to
1:11:39 our to the just going to the PPC and
1:11:45 subsequently to council committees now
1:11:48 grade Out Below that are details around
1:11:52 the land use element and those have been
1:11:54 provided to stepen and he's he's looking
1:11:56 at those in a much larger table with
1:11:58 some other comments but I don't know
1:12:02 that we want to put that in the letter
1:12:04 in this letter in this level of detail
1:12:07 we talked about last night Stephen and
1:12:10 Stacy and I met was to have the general
1:12:13 themes in our letter and then provide
1:12:16 Stephen with the details and he can put
1:12:17 them into his appendix it's a
1:12:20 spreadsheet we can look at that as well
1:12:22 if we like so have we captured your
1:12:25 general concerns on the land
1:12:28 use I'm GNA express my concerns about
1:12:31 that approach okay and the reason I do
1:12:33 that is most of the comments we provided
1:12:37 to um Stephen were no change we received
1:12:41 a response of no change and many of us
1:12:44 took the time to try and put those
1:12:46 comments down and it's important that
1:12:48 PPC sees those in their entirety from
1:12:51 this board because that's what we're
1:12:52 asked to do as say the council so
1:12:55 putting those into just the table that
1:12:57 Stephen responds to to me is not a
1:12:59 complete you can attach it as a separate
1:13:02 thing that's not as highlighted but I
1:13:05 would really um prefer propose that we
1:13:09 continue to provide
1:13:12 those Stephen would you like to speak to
1:13:17 that if the board would like to provide
1:13:19 the full table we can uh we just wanted
1:13:21 to make sure we had the full discussion
1:13:23 with the board on everything and
1:13:25 separate out what goes in the letter
1:13:27 from this more specific
1:13:32 comments how do you plan to present your
1:13:36 spreadsheet Stephen with all the
1:13:38 specific
1:13:39 comments the if the spreadsheet gets
1:13:42 added to get what gets sent to the
1:13:44 planning policy commission it would be
1:13:46 attachment to the
1:13:53 ladder what would the board like to
1:13:56 see for suggestions
1:13:59 for I would like to see them included in
1:14:02 the I think we did a lot of work on this
1:14:04 we spent a lot of time on this as a
1:14:07 board I think it's important that we
1:14:09 express
1:14:17 our well so maybe I just make sure I
1:14:21 understand what we're saying here like
1:14:23 item U talks about making sure we
1:14:27 maintain
1:14:29 walkability is that the entire Express
1:14:33 expressing what we captured in the more
1:14:35 detailed table including things about
1:14:38 improving multi botal Transportation
1:14:41 walkability isn't isn't that it's more
1:14:44 than that so if that is the distilling
1:14:47 of that I'd say we we've lost too much
1:14:49 information in that
1:14:53 transformation so it needs to be either
1:14:55 more detailed in that presentation or as
1:14:58 Nancy suggests well here let's let's
1:15:00 just keep capture all that we have here
1:15:03 and then uh that can be f for that
1:15:07 analysis by whoever but I I feel there
1:15:11 has been some loss of
1:15:17 information so Nancy in your proposal is
1:15:20 is that section on the bottom going to
1:15:23 be including in that way or is it in
1:15:26 line I would say it in that way was part
1:15:29 of you know our comments and feedback on
1:15:32 it it's another page and a half
1:15:43 materials oh
1:15:45 um so I was I was more question I was
1:15:49 just curious how I mean I think I I
1:15:51 would support including it as long I do
1:15:54 think that if
1:15:56 we should make clear like if they're
1:15:57 only going to read one part of it what
1:15:59 do we want to make sure that we get
1:16:00 across and so I do think alignment on
1:16:03 those top five is still important but um
1:16:07 but showing our work is is great as well
1:16:09 to detail
1:16:14 that um I'm going to propose we take a
1:16:17 quick
1:16:18 vote just so we have it
1:16:22 captured so
1:16:26 I'm going to make a motion we vote on
1:16:29 keeping it in the format as is or
1:16:32 reducing it down to just the general
1:16:36 themes
1:16:39 second I'll
1:16:41 second um so for all of those that would
1:16:44 like to see the letter kept with all the
1:16:46 details so pretty much as is as it reads
1:16:49 there
1:16:51 um please give me a
1:17:00 up like we
1:17:03 St I think our desire is to keep the
1:17:06 letter as is with the details in it know
1:17:09 that's not quite what we discussed last
1:17:11 night but I do believe after hearing
1:17:13 mancy and other comments of the board
1:17:15 that's the intent that board is
1:17:21 looking Sten any um concerns with that
1:17:25 anything else we can do to package this
1:17:27 for PPC that would be helpful as staff
1:17:30 meet with
1:17:32 them I think what I might do is um if
1:17:36 the preference from the board is to keep
1:17:37 all the detail with the themes is is
1:17:39 that what's been was voted on is keep
1:17:42 the themes and the detail so keep the
1:17:46 lettered yeah then then to also provide
1:17:49 PPC with the same Matrix that we
1:17:51 provided the board as
1:17:53 well and that would be be the attachment
1:17:55 to the
1:17:59 letter so the letter would read as is
1:18:02 plus the
1:18:03 attachment
1:18:11 correct any other comments on
1:18:14 that I think we can drop down to the
1:18:16 environmental element or we're going
1:18:17 have the majority of our discussion
1:18:20 great yeah I think what we were going to
1:18:22 do um for the other conversation was
1:18:24 move through the themes the rest of the
1:18:26 themes in the document um I don't think
1:18:29 we need to do that now since we're going
1:18:31 to include the level of detail um what
1:18:35 we'd like to do is go through the
1:18:37 details of the environment element and
1:18:39 where there's things that we can address
1:18:41 and resolve in the environment element
1:18:43 our proposals we'd remove those from the
1:18:46 letter because they will be revised um
1:18:49 in the next
1:18:50 version um and then after we do that
1:18:53 just want to would like to get the okay
1:18:56 on this letter tonight if possible um
1:18:59 because I know Stephen uh would like to
1:19:01 try and get it to PPC
1:19:03 tomorrow faster than we had
1:19:07 originally um so with that what I will
1:19:10 do is move to a different
1:19:13 document
1:19:15 um and as mentioned we'd first like
1:19:21 to start with the recommendations from
1:19:25 the board um that staff felt after a
1:19:31 quick review that we could address as
1:19:33 part of the next uh update to the
1:19:37 IAP um and therefore uh not for
1:19:42 consideration within this version of the
1:19:44 comp plan but they would be flagged for
1:19:46 discussion with the board um next year
1:19:49 when we'd have more time to talk about
1:19:50 them and incorporating them into the IAB
1:19:53 and then next we'll move into those that
1:19:56 we felt like um we should bring for
1:19:58 discussion tonight for immediate edits
1:20:00 to the environment
1:20:03 element um so first to start with those
1:20:06 um we felt could uh or the staff
1:20:09 recommendation is to punt to the 2025
1:20:13 review of the IAP would be those um that
1:20:16 were proposed I think John brought some
1:20:18 really great suggestions for new
1:20:20 policies um we felt like at this stage
1:20:23 in the um comprehensive plan um given
1:20:27 that these wouldn't have a chance for
1:20:29 more public vetting or vetting by other
1:20:32 boards that we should take our time next
1:20:35 year to really review these and F tune
1:20:37 them um and do our due diligence to make
1:20:40 sure they the policies that we want to
1:20:43 advance so that is the majority of them
1:20:47 and then uh there was one around
1:20:49 strengthening a policy around energy use
1:20:53 patterns again we felt like that um
1:20:56 would and I can pull up the specific
1:20:58 policy but that it might be best to wait
1:21:00 for a more robust discussion on that and
1:21:03 include as part of the IAP update
1:21:05 instead of trying to expedite um that
1:21:09 consideration for this version of the
1:21:11 comprehensive plan um and I will just
1:21:15 remind folks if we make updates to the
1:21:17 IAP those would then be reflected in an
1:21:20 update to the comp plan following
1:21:22 adoption of the IAP so would eventually
1:21:26 be and then just the last one um for
1:21:30 consideration we thought possibly could
1:21:32 be punted to a IAB update was
1:21:35 specifically calling out c um under the
1:21:39 resilience and well-being
1:21:41 section um sir is uh one of our major
1:21:45 response mechanisms for emergencies um
1:21:48 but did feel like it was specific enough
1:21:50 it might best belong in the
1:21:52 IAP um so th those are the staff
1:21:54 responses to that group of um
1:21:58 recommendations that we move those to
1:22:01 the um consideration of the icap update
1:22:04 but we're looking for feedback on
1:22:07 whether you all are okay with that or if
1:22:08 we want to pull any out for further
1:22:10 discussion tonight immediate
1:22:12 consideration and
1:22:15 then based on what I hear tonight I
1:22:18 agree I understand where you're going
1:22:20 with the proposed new we're a little
1:22:22 late in the game for those to make it
1:22:24 into to the plan now although I still
1:22:28 think what I'm hearing from the previous
1:22:30 conversation I think those should be
1:22:32 mentioned in our letter so that it's
1:22:35 known that those are out there and that
1:22:37 we're thinking about them and we could
1:22:40 just flag that they'll be considered as
1:22:42 part of the IAP update that be
1:22:51 acceptable I just had a question so
1:22:53 Stacy you said
1:22:55 that once we ad adopted in IAP it's not
1:22:59 like it's automatically the next that's
1:23:01 basically the next time the comp plan
1:23:02 comes around it needs to be updated is
1:23:04 that is that correct yeah and Stephen
1:23:06 and I chat about that I think as we'
1:23:09 mentioned to the board our goal is to
1:23:11 update the IAP by Spring of 26 ahead of
1:23:14 our next budget cycle and then the comp
1:23:17 plan would be updated by the end of 2026
1:23:20 is that correct Stephen so there'd be
1:23:22 couple month like time between that
1:23:24 update because sorry did you say the
1:23:26 timing again the IAP would be updated by
1:23:29 Spring 2026 is our goal and then the
1:23:31 comp plan goes through
1:23:33 annual Refreshers um or minor updates
1:23:38 and so um we could include some
1:23:41 revisions into the comp plan by the end
1:23:44 2026 is that Stephen jump in if I'm no
1:23:48 that's correct um for the comens plan we
1:23:51 basically have an annual review process
1:23:52 for if there's updates to other
1:23:55 functional plans so like the IAP going
1:23:57 through its update and planning to get
1:24:00 that done by early 2026 it'll
1:24:02 essentially just get rolled into the
1:24:04 2026 comp plan updates which would
1:24:06 probably be done by the end of the
1:24:08 year Well I support the direction on
1:24:11 this the only thing I would say is if
1:24:13 there's anything that we feel like is
1:24:14 sending us in the wrong direction before
1:24:16 then which I'm I don't know all the
1:24:18 detail of these but that would be the
1:24:20 one thing that we should talk about but
1:24:22 I don't know that exists
1:24:25 sending in the wrong direction oh like
1:24:27 if what the current comp plan says is
1:24:29 sending us in the wrong direction
1:24:30 relative to what we think the next
1:24:32 update will be that would be something
1:24:34 that we should be talking about and I
1:24:35 didn't have time since this was sent out
1:24:38 so I'm not sure what's in this section
1:24:41 but that that if there's anything that
1:24:43 anyone feels like falls into that
1:24:45 category that is something I think we
1:24:47 should talk
1:24:52 about yeah so I think what we have
1:24:55 proposed on the table is all the new the
1:24:57 new proposed policies would remain in
1:25:01 the letter we will note for
1:25:04 PPC that those will be considered as
1:25:07 part of the next IAP update but we'll
1:25:09 retain them in the letter just to make
1:25:11 sure they're not
1:25:18 lost lost key
1:25:26 okay oh no we do still have Keith I
1:25:29 don't know why Keith we can't you're not
1:25:31 showing up on our screen I'm going try
1:25:32 spell at
1:25:33 you um Keith are you can you hear me yes
1:25:38 no we got you it's just our screen being
1:25:41 weird tonight um are you comfortable
1:25:43 with that if anything we're saying
1:25:46 you're not following because it's a
1:25:47 little complex just let us know but are
1:25:49 you comfortable with that
1:25:51 approach yes thank you sorry about that
1:25:54 de find our
1:25:57 screen
1:25:58 okay I just have one I do think one
1:26:02 thing we should think about in the
1:26:03 overall format is just making sure that
1:26:04 we have prioritized the things that we
1:26:06 need to get across like this is more of
1:26:08 an FYI this is not something that PBC
1:26:11 necessarily needs to know so that would
1:26:13 just like I would know I would
1:26:15 appreciate knowing what is really
1:26:17 critical to review and like is
1:26:19 applicable to the current update so that
1:26:22 would be to consider
1:26:28 there was a couple that you wanted to
1:26:30 yeah I just that was the new ones um and
1:26:33 then the other ones we were going to
1:26:35 flag for the IAP update uh was around
1:26:39 policy F3 this is more aggressive in
1:26:42 terms that requesting a more aggressive
1:26:44 approach for shifting energy
1:26:47 patterns and then um there was one on
1:26:49 mention of C uh the community Emergency
1:26:52 Response Team so our proposal is those
1:26:55 are considered as part of the IAP update
1:26:57 but I wanted to make sure the board was
1:27:00 comfortable with that or if we want to
1:27:01 pull them out for further discussion
1:27:04 tonight and if it's helpful I can pull
1:27:07 up what policy F3 is or dve yeah for for
1:27:12 context policy F3 is one of the Targets
1:27:15 in the climate action plan um related to
1:27:19 um reducing fossil fuel use in existing
1:27:22 buildings by uh 20% by 2030 and 80% by
1:27:28 2050 is that consistent with what's in
1:27:31 the comp plan so that is that is the
1:27:35 that's what's in the comp plan right now
1:27:36 is reducing fossil Fu use in existing
1:27:38 buildings 20% by 2030 and that's
1:27:40 consistent with the climate action plan
1:27:42 as well and that's the again the same uh
1:27:47 existing buildings fossil field Target
1:27:48 from the King County climate
1:27:50 collaborative as well which is which is
1:27:52 really where that came from in the first
1:27:53 place
1:27:55 there was a Comm out here to strengthen
1:27:56 that policy to be
1:28:00 more that forward yeah I can just give
1:28:03 context that was my comment and that was
1:28:05 the reason I said that is there's a
1:28:07 another policy that is to reduce overall
1:28:09 energy use by 25% in buildings and so
1:28:12 it's to me weird that we would have if
1:28:14 we hit the 25% reduction we would have
1:28:17 already achieved more than we've said in
1:28:19 the fossil fuel reduction so and maybe
1:28:22 there's some math I'm not doing right
1:28:24 but but that seems to me like we should
1:28:26 have a more aggressive if we're trying
1:28:27 to reduce by 25% then the target for
1:28:30 fossil fuel production should be higher
1:28:32 than the target for overall energy
1:28:39 use our folks um can we punt that to the
1:28:44 IAP update for discussion on the target
1:28:47 since I think we want the comp plan to
1:28:50 reflect the IAP targets as written I'm
1:28:54 yeah I just think that's something we
1:28:56 need to update on the IP yeah that just
1:28:58 seems inconsistent to how what that
1:29:02 might require when we're doing the IAP
1:29:05 update process um we can probably try
1:29:07 and do some analysis there that that 25%
1:29:10 includes electricity use yeah right so
1:29:12 that's going to be why there is that
1:29:14 difference in percentage numbers um
1:29:18 because that's that's talking about
1:29:19 overall energy use so electricity and
1:29:21 fossil fuels right versus just the fuels
1:29:24 although um as we're thinking about
1:29:26 these overall greenhouse gas reductions
1:29:28 that you know we're also going to
1:29:29 Electrify some of that fossil fuel use
1:29:31 and so there's kind of all of these
1:29:33 pieces working working together and
1:29:36 um to hit all these different
1:29:42 goals a good thing to okay
1:29:51 on and then just the last one was the
1:29:53 mention of c um the community emergency
1:29:56 response team as part of the resilience
1:29:59 and well-being
1:30:01 policies um okay I think staff would be
1:30:05 comfortable making that change we did
1:30:06 feel like that level of specificity in
1:30:09 terms of calling out a program could be
1:30:12 maybe best included in a functional plan
1:30:14 like the IAP um but defer to the board
1:30:20 your certain mentioned in your Emergency
1:30:23 Management plan documents as well yes
1:30:30 yeah comment there go ahead ke I was
1:30:35 just going to say that was my suggestion
1:30:37 um just seemed like there wasn't a lot
1:30:38 of specificity in mentioning um ways to
1:30:41 uh have that Readiness for climate
1:30:44 resilience um and and that's the program
1:30:47 that I'm familiar with that that would
1:30:48 seem best positioned for that but uh
1:30:51 like you say if it's already mentioned
1:30:52 an emergency uh uh plans and stuff maybe
1:30:56 necessary I don't know that sir from the
1:30:59 Emergency Management side takes into
1:31:02 account climate
1:31:06 resilience something we're working with
1:31:08 an emergency manage um management office
1:31:11 on um I don't I don't know if they are
1:31:13 called out specifically in the IAP but
1:31:16 as we work more with them and they
1:31:18 really are um kind of a Frontline
1:31:21 response team that's it will be
1:31:23 important that they are called out and
1:31:29 that any concerns If We Hold that one um
1:31:34 for the IAP update are you okay with
1:31:37 that Keith or it your preference to
1:31:40 do yeah if other folks agree that makes
1:31:43 sense to
1:31:47 me I would I would say talk with your
1:31:50 Emergency Management folks because Ser
1:31:52 is a very defined program
1:31:55 the two need to be in correlation with
1:31:57 each other if you're going to mention
1:31:59 the word c in here they have to be
1:32:01 teaching that in that
1:32:06 yeah all right I think David's then
1:32:08 gonna talk about um other
1:32:11 recommendations that we want to get some
1:32:14 agreement on the board uh whether or not
1:32:16 to make those immediate revisions to
1:32:20 envirment yeah so um I'm going to go
1:32:22 through each of these individually and
1:32:25 and provide just some context around uh
1:32:28 some of the staff response um and then
1:32:31 kind of open it up to to thoughts from
1:32:33 the board on inclusion in the letter so
1:32:36 for the first point um around the vision
1:32:39 so that piece of the vision that point U
1:32:41 relates to educating and engaging
1:32:44 residents and businesses to inspire
1:32:46 Behavior change uh in addressing climate
1:32:48 change and enhancing our natural
1:32:50 environment and the comment was uh to
1:32:53 update the vision to to specifically
1:32:56 call out um uh encompassing both adults
1:32:59 and schoolage children um and then also
1:33:02 uh to essentially expand um the
1:33:05 incorporation of Education throughout
1:33:07 the comp plan and and um the climate the
1:33:10 environmental and climate stewardship
1:33:12 element um as well um so the staff
1:33:17 response really is that um we have
1:33:21 Incorporated education into many of
1:33:23 policies although of course we're we're
1:33:25 open to exploring other spots where that
1:33:28 fits um the uh some of the uh specific
1:33:34 recommendations on kind of the pieces to
1:33:37 in uh include around education um sta
1:33:40 field might uh fall more under um School
1:33:44 District purview versus say the city
1:33:46 right especially as it relates to um
1:33:49 impacting School curriculum um and then
1:33:53 additionally as we get into more
1:33:54 specific um actions um that can be
1:33:57 something that we can uh talk about
1:33:59 during the IAP update process so that's
1:34:02 kind of some of our initial thought on
1:34:04 on this uh recommendation here but love
1:34:07 to hear any Bard thoughts on uh this
1:34:15 comment that was my comment basically
1:34:19 it's you know sustainability is a
1:34:21 difficult concept for people to
1:34:22 understand and I think it needs to start
1:34:27 early that's that's and
1:34:31 somehow um try to get it into freaking I
1:34:35 don't know how we would do that but
1:34:38 education when I read these plans it
1:34:40 sounds like education is everywhere
1:34:43 within the plans but it's kind of
1:34:45 focused towards adults and think we just
1:34:48 need to start early because
1:34:54 yeah I think it's a great and we do have
1:34:56 a partnership with a group that is
1:34:59 sustainability ambassadors that
1:35:00 presented in June that is actually
1:35:02 working on some curriculum but this may
1:35:05 be a gap in this section where we're not
1:35:07 calling
1:35:09 out high school and and AG group so we
1:35:13 could look at that vision and see if
1:35:15 there's any adjustments we could make
1:35:21 to so sty just one comment on that and
1:35:24 things may have changed but I had
1:35:26 actually requested like about seven or
1:35:29 eight years back that you know the
1:35:31 elementary schools should start doing
1:35:34 Environmental Education start as a part
1:35:37 of a separate class or at least as a
1:35:39 part of science class or if you can't do
1:35:41 it at least start as an extracurricular
1:35:45 class but it should be a class workor um
1:35:48 and I had gone to the principls and
1:35:50 talked to a couple of School principles
1:35:52 and I was told told that the school
1:35:55 curriculum needs to be approved by the
1:35:58 state and so you know it was a long
1:36:01 drawn procedure and it takes apparently
1:36:03 10 years to change the curriculum and
1:36:05 stuff so I just wanted to and things may
1:36:07 have changed especially now you know
1:36:09 everybody is getting more of climate
1:36:12 action and other things so I hope the
1:36:15 change can be faster but I just wanted
1:36:17 to let you know that where it stood at
1:36:20 that point yeah and I think that's where
1:36:22 we're trying to be careful all that the
1:36:25 city isn't getting in the way of OSI or
1:36:31 is AA School District that is not our
1:36:34 role but where we can support programs
1:36:36 like sustainability ambassadors or the
1:36:39 students um working on the istd
1:36:41 sustainability policy which might bring
1:36:43 in some requirements for sustainable
1:36:46 curriculum players a role um and it
1:36:49 could be you know included as a part of
1:36:51 all these sustainability programs Green
1:36:54 sustain everything done so but it needs
1:36:57 to be consistent to be to the point of
1:37:00 John it needs to be consistent and
1:37:03 actually an educational effort versus
1:37:06 you know just once in a month type of
1:37:08 extracurricular activity to really get
1:37:11 the you know to be
1:37:14 effective
1:37:16 okay yeah I think David and I can look
1:37:18 at the language tomorrow and and we can
1:37:21 incorporate
1:37:24 um Concepts around this to the vision
1:37:28 yeah I think the vision and then also
1:37:29 maybe some of that introduction language
1:37:31 as well where we might have a little bit
1:37:33 more space to extrapolate on on some
1:37:35 pieces right
1:37:38 okay great um moving right along um
1:37:43 streams wetlands and
1:37:46 Wildlife
1:37:47 um so this is uh goal area B and C
1:37:54 um and the comment from the board was to
1:37:58 incorporate um more of the the comments
1:38:01 specifically related to uh wildlife and
1:38:04 some of those policies that were
1:38:05 proposed back in January um emphasizing
1:38:09 the importance of wildlife protection um
1:38:12 and adoption adopting uh policies that
1:38:15 support neighborhood level education
1:38:18 around
1:38:19 Wildlife um so I think as staff are kind
1:38:22 of thinking about this and and exploring
1:38:25 this um some of the the questions that
1:38:29 came up really is where does this really
1:38:31 fall within the city um right now a lot
1:38:34 of the wildlife work
1:38:36 is spread out across different
1:38:39 departments um some of this is wildlife
1:38:42 work that um I don't believe that the
1:38:44 city is really doing yet um and so I
1:38:47 think there is some question on kind of
1:38:49 where does this really land in this uh
1:38:52 in the comp plan and then also kind of
1:38:54 integrated into City work
1:38:56 um yeah so I'll I'll leave it there but
1:38:59 I'd love to hear kind of uh forward
1:39:01 reactions to really what we should uh
1:39:04 continue to include in this letter as
1:39:06 the person that keeps pushing this FL if
1:39:09 you look at next door you look at any of
1:39:12 the neighborhood Facebook groups look at
1:39:15 anything else the most thing you most
1:39:17 likely see is there's a bear in my
1:39:19 neighborhood or did you see the you know
1:39:22 whatever it is that's walking down the
1:39:23 street these days the people in this
1:39:26 community have a unique coexistence with
1:39:29 Wildlife um it's a really important part
1:39:31 of the community that's why we all live
1:39:33 here they're not just in streams and
1:39:35 wetlands and I think we need to
1:39:37 acknowledge that boy I really like
1:39:39 living in in an area where we have big
1:39:42 cat total cats
1:39:44 Bears there's L many places you can say
1:39:47 that you've got that walking down your
1:39:48 street and so my comment to this is we
1:39:51 should acknowledge that because because
1:39:53 it is such a big part of this community
1:39:56 now maybe it does because it's with
1:39:57 streams wetlands and Wildlife well you
1:39:59 think streams and wetlands but wild life
1:40:01 is walking down the street it's walking
1:40:03 through the trees we see it all over the
1:40:05 place when you're hiking so what I'm
1:40:07 trying to do is acknowledge that part of
1:40:10 this community that makes is aaso
1:40:12 special and that's part of our
1:40:13 comprehensive plan we want to keep
1:40:15 seeing those down Wildlife walking down
1:40:16 our street that's and I'm kind of
1:40:19 passionate about it because I just think
1:40:21 I really love seeing those posts that
1:40:23 people people put and I think we should
1:40:24 continue to celebrate that that's what
1:40:26 we've managed to accomplish in this
1:40:28 community that's just my vision of this
1:40:32 okay so the part of this that comes to
1:40:34 mind for me which I've been a bit of a
1:40:36 broken record on is and it's just an
1:40:38 example um is is our trash management
1:40:43 and the education around trash
1:40:44 management and bears and so I feel like
1:40:47 there is opportunity and like I I don't
1:40:50 I'm not sure what all specifics of
1:40:52 nany's comments are but I I do think
1:40:54 that the coexisting with Wildlife is
1:40:57 something that our residents aren't
1:40:59 aware that the fact that they because
1:41:01 they're not protecting their trash a
1:41:03 mama bear and three Cubs had to be put
1:41:05 down like that's the unfortunate truth
1:41:08 of what these people putting out their
1:41:10 trash and leaving it out is and so I
1:41:12 think I don't think that's probably the
1:41:14 way that you say it to them but I I do
1:41:15 think that there's an education gap of
1:41:17 like what do you need to do to be a
1:41:20 responsible citizen around that wildlife
1:41:23 um because actually I don't want to see
1:41:25 that Mama Bear out on Thursdays around
1:41:27 track like so that like I think there's
1:41:29 there's there's like that's actually a
1:41:30 negative in some cases so I do think
1:41:32 that there is opportunity in that
1:41:34 something that is critical and I don't
1:41:37 know where it lives but but it is like
1:41:39 we still don't have it within our Waste
1:41:41 Management like contract or like it
1:41:44 still is a gap and I think it's how
1:41:46 we're protecting Wildlife throughout the
1:41:47 city and and this seems like the to to
1:41:51 nany's point this is the only point that
1:41:53 wild life or the only part of the comp
1:41:54 plan that says Wildlife so I do think
1:41:56 there's something there I don't know
1:41:58 what the specifics are but that it's a
1:42:00 core value should be a core value of
1:42:02 being in isqu that we're educating
1:42:05 ourselves to be responsible
1:42:08 citizens than you
1:42:10 Jamie thinking at from comp plan
1:42:13 perspective I don't know if the comp
1:42:14 plan can do anything to create education
1:42:17 program but it certainly can promote it
1:42:20 so just having language in there stating
1:42:22 that want to promote Wildlife education
1:42:25 program and kind of that last sentence
1:42:26 you have in the middle box there getting
1:42:29 that into the comp
1:42:31 plan that builds support for future
1:42:35 staff to develop that
1:42:38 program see maybe David we on the
1:42:41 policies around Wildlife could you just
1:42:43 quickly summarize what what they are
1:42:46 yeah because I don't I think they're
1:42:48 more more focused on corridors
1:42:50 connectivity Less on Ed
1:42:54 yeah so um the goal is to protect and
1:42:58 improve the environment functions of
1:43:00 conservation areas and corridors
1:43:03 corridors um to balance development with
1:43:06 the natural environment so people can
1:43:08 coexist with fish and wildlife
1:43:11 habitats the policies themselves so kind
1:43:14 of digging in that one one step further
1:43:17 um the first one is to create connected
1:43:19 Wildlife
1:43:21 corridors um the second is to coordinate
1:43:25 land use planning and
1:43:26 management
1:43:29 um related to Fish and Wildlife
1:43:32 Resources the third is to improve fish
1:43:34 habitat and remove barriers from natural
1:43:36 systems and the fourth is to integrate
1:43:39 Park system plans goals and policies
1:43:42 into raran riparian corridors for
1:43:45 multiple benefits including enhanced
1:43:47 wildlife habitat so it is very focused
1:43:50 on on that habitat uh
1:43:55 look at that language again and see if
1:43:57 you can
1:43:59 incorporate
1:44:01 education into some of that that's why
1:44:04 I'm wondering it doesn't quite fit
1:44:08 within the goal but I don't know where
1:44:10 else it would best live but we could
1:44:12 bring in this language out and and added
1:44:17 in as a policy under that section
1:44:20 Stephen would there be any major
1:44:22 concerns with
1:44:27 that just read it through the language
1:44:29 again uh we re uh add in the emphasize
1:44:33 importance of wildlife protection
1:44:34 education aiming for wildlife to thrive
1:44:36 even as the city grows denser and it's
1:44:39 um in the section policy C or goal C and
1:44:44 B which this does mention as the city
1:44:46 grows dener which fits into kind of what
1:44:49 that goal is getting at
1:44:51 also I have no concerns with u the
1:44:54 addition of the policy or the language
1:44:56 uh into the element it's just more of
1:44:58 the question of what does that mean for
1:45:00 the city is there specific actions or
1:45:02 metrics that are tied to the policy I
1:45:05 think we would want to have that
1:45:06 discussion with the next I
1:45:10 update well I know at one time we have
1:45:12 talked in this board about where does
1:45:14 the environment sit within the city
1:45:17 who's responsible for managing the
1:45:19 environment who's the environmental lead
1:45:21 in according to state I understand it's
1:45:23 a team approach and things like this
1:45:26 lead us to more do we need an
1:45:29 environmental Advocate leader in the
1:45:32 city and that conversation we haven't
1:45:34 had here but it's something that that
1:45:37 person would take on in this role so you
1:45:40 if that's important point that out we've
1:45:43 had that conversation haven't resolved
1:45:49 it great well we can make um an update
1:45:53 uh to that section that is a this
1:45:56 concept I know it is a new policy where
1:45:58 we talked about policies being fed to
1:46:00 the IAP but I think this concept has
1:46:02 been brought up multiple times and
1:46:04 discussed so um we can work on
1:46:07 integrating it into uh the
1:46:12 section um so the next comment um uh
1:46:16 still relates to this Wildlife goal goal
1:46:18 C that um I had mentioned before
1:46:21 relating to protecting protecting and
1:46:23 improving environmental functions uh for
1:46:26 wildlife uh and people
1:46:29 coexisting um and uh the comment was to
1:46:32 include considerations for minimizing
1:46:34 traffic noise and light pollution
1:46:36 impacts on Wildlife um in policies
1:46:40 regarding connected Wildlife
1:46:42 corridors um and one of the things that
1:46:45 that staff wanted to point out is that
1:46:47 um the way go C is written and some of
1:46:50 those policies are written are are
1:46:52 written to be
1:46:54 Encompass uh those pieces such as
1:46:56 minimizing traffic noise and light
1:46:58 pollution um and and so those specific
1:47:02 strategies aren't reflected into the uh
1:47:06 into the policies themselves
1:47:09 um but uh that can be something that we
1:47:13 open up for discussion if that's
1:47:14 something that the the board would like
1:47:15 to see reflected more and more that
1:47:18 specific uh strategy pieces or whether
1:47:21 that's something more for functional
1:47:23 plan updates ke had a
1:47:26 comment I just want to say this was my
1:47:29 suggestion and I'm noticing a trend
1:47:31 where I uh look for input to provide and
1:47:34 find it uh you know in real specific uh
1:47:37 kind of ideas so um still learning the
1:47:40 um what this board really needs for me
1:47:42 in terms of that input so please uh feel
1:47:44 free to disregard that if it if it be
1:47:46 more appropriate just to leave it at
1:47:47 those broader
1:47:49 goals it's really important input
1:47:52 because it might be lost even if it
1:47:54 doesn't get added into the comp plan I
1:47:56 think it's important that You' likeed it
1:47:58 so it's not lost as those plans
1:48:01 are absolutely but yeah we want I mean
1:48:03 we thought it was worth a conversation
1:48:05 with the board on whether they want to
1:48:07 see that level like
1:48:11 details
1:48:13 okay any thoughts any concerns if this
1:48:17 this level of detail um is held off for
1:48:20 other plans
1:48:23 want to see more in
1:48:29 the um moving along to uh a comment
1:48:33 relating to goal D which is uh our tree
1:48:37 goal area so right now it reads uh
1:48:41 maintain and enhance Citywide tree
1:48:43 canopy um and the comment is to revise
1:48:46 the go to read maintain and restore tree
1:48:49 tree wide Citywide tree canopy um
1:48:53 and we wanted to bring this back to the
1:48:54 board this was actually a change made by
1:48:57 the board at an earlier conversation um
1:48:59 thinking that uh enhance goes beyond
1:49:02 restoration and and kind of um is
1:49:05 speaking more to uh really improving our
1:49:09 tree canopy overall um and so I wanted
1:49:11 to bring it back to the board on whether
1:49:14 or not the board is still comfortable
1:49:15 with that enhanced language or whether
1:49:17 or not we should uh go back to uh the
1:49:20 language of ReStore in
1:49:27 instead I think that was my comment to
1:49:30 my first read through that's why I
1:49:32 picked it up it just seemed like it was
1:49:35 you know you weren't hitting the mark by
1:49:41 okay I remember that earlier
1:49:44 conversation I think we talked about the
1:49:46 difference between restore and enhance
1:49:48 and there was a lot of conversation
1:49:50 about what does restore really mean
1:49:52 restore to what level
1:49:55 when so H was think where we
1:50:02 landed we wanted to bring it
1:50:07 back okay make sure
1:50:11 that I do want to recognize the board
1:50:13 has been going through this comp plan
1:50:15 for over a year now I believe so um
1:50:18 there has been a lot of conversation
1:50:20 year and a half lot of conversations and
1:50:22 um happy to keep bringing bringing these
1:50:25 questions up and they're important to
1:50:26 continue to to uh keep
1:50:30 addressing so my my understanding is
1:50:33 that we're okay keeping enhanced
1:50:34 language there
1:50:37 yes um so the next question was related
1:50:39 to policy
1:50:41 D2 um which reads retain existing trees
1:50:45 in critical areas and their buffers long
1:50:47 designated walking and biking corridors
1:50:49 and other green spaces and the
1:50:51 recommendation was to expand that policy
1:50:54 to include uh retain an increase uh tree
1:50:58 canopy along these
1:50:59 corridors um I actually just chatted
1:51:02 with Dan as he was leaving right now um
1:51:06 staff don't uh I think have any issues
1:51:09 adding that increased language if that's
1:51:11 something that the board would like to
1:51:13 do um roughly there have been some
1:51:16 conversations around increasing that
1:51:18 tree canopy along some of those riparian
1:51:20 quarters and and um other
1:51:23 isn't always um necessarily the um
1:51:28 doesn't always necessarily enhance the
1:51:29 ecosystem Services however um it is
1:51:32 something that we absolutely do want to
1:51:34 do in some areas maybe not in others but
1:51:36 it uh can definitely be part of this
1:51:38 this policy if uh the board would like
1:51:41 to see
1:51:42 that J yeah that was my comment I mean I
1:51:45 do think especially after we just had
1:51:47 their reinforcement management plan I
1:51:48 think it is important that yeah it's not
1:51:50 everywhere like we ar planning tree is
1:51:53 where they're not meant to be but it
1:51:55 seems aligned with what we're talking
1:51:57 about for the urban Force management
1:51:58 plan to not just be talking about
1:51:59 retaining Trea that there are
1:52:01 opportunities to increase so that was
1:52:03 why I made the comment
1:52:04 so yeah I would I would support
1:52:07 obviously I
1:52:08 support I would I mean it's consistent
1:52:12 with the comment above of you know
1:52:14 maintain and enhance and it's also
1:52:16 consistent with the tree canopy goals
1:52:20 City okay
1:52:23 I think that is something that we can
1:52:26 easily
1:52:27 do any other questions or concerns on
1:52:31 that that one before I move
1:52:33 on okay so uh next we have uh we're
1:52:39 moving into our greenhouse gas policies
1:52:43 now so policy
1:52:46 E8 um so this is a actually a new policy
1:52:50 this year um
1:52:53 that was proposed earlier in the process
1:52:55 but it's um leveraging Regional
1:52:57 Partnerships and advocate for Statewide
1:52:59 policies to address upstream and
1:53:02 downstream green Downstream greenhouse
1:53:04 gas emissions from activities not
1:53:07 directly controlled by isqua community
1:53:09 members or the city of isqua such as
1:53:12 material consumption and
1:53:14 Aviation um and the comment was to um
1:53:19 focus on or have this policy address all
1:53:21 forms of trans portation um including
1:53:24 those through and above the community
1:53:26 and not just to focus on
1:53:28 Aviation um when we were writing this
1:53:31 policy uh for the first time this year
1:53:33 one of the ideas here was to kind of
1:53:35 call out two of the big ideas or big
1:53:38 areas where uh frankly the city doesn't
1:53:41 have a lot of control over reducing uh
1:53:44 emissions but where we can uh do our
1:53:47 best to advocate for and explore
1:53:50 opportunities to uh um support Statewide
1:53:54 policies that can address some of these
1:53:55 emission areas and so material
1:53:57 consumption and Aviation were called out
1:53:59 as examples but we're not meant to be an
1:54:01 exhausted list of of these uh areas
1:54:04 outside of or where we have less control
1:54:08 um so I would turn it over uh to the
1:54:10 board to see if there's any other
1:54:12 comments on um are we comfortable with
1:54:15 the level of detail that's in the policy
1:54:17 or do we uh would the board like to see
1:54:19 more specific uh examples uh more
1:54:22 Transportation examples included in that
1:54:24 or we could remove the examples yes we
1:54:27 could do that
1:54:31 yeah struck a nerve that felt like you
1:54:33 were singling out
1:54:35 Aviation and I see just as much
1:54:40 greenhouse gas being
1:54:42 emitted right on high 90 and state R 900
1:54:46 people pass through that was my thought
1:54:50 is U you know
1:54:57 [Laughter]
1:55:01 oh I'm rereading this policy and I don't
1:55:05 know what it means like it's that just
1:55:08 some I don't actually it's like a mental
1:55:11 pretzel that I get into when I try to
1:55:13 read this policiy that I don't know
1:55:15 could
1:55:16 you state what this what are we what are
1:55:20 we trying to say with this policy
1:55:23 yeah so this
1:55:26 policy uh is intended to give us a
1:55:29 little bit more
1:55:30 flexibility advocating for more policies
1:55:35 at the state level that can address um
1:55:39 sources of greenhouse gas
1:55:41 emissions that the city doesn't control
1:55:44 and and can't really pass policies to
1:55:47 impact right so when we think about our
1:55:51 uh CommunityWide greenhouse gas
1:55:54 emissions um some of those the way those
1:55:57 are calculated there's different um
1:56:00 options and some of that is right
1:56:02 thinking about um material consumption
1:56:05 from community members some of those
1:56:07 greenhouse gas inventories include
1:56:09 Aviation emissions right um
1:56:13 transportation Emissions on I90 are
1:56:15 included on our green cast gas emissions
1:56:17 right um and so this policy is is
1:56:21 intended to to say kind of well what can
1:56:24 we do to address those emissions that
1:56:27 the state that the city doesn't quite
1:56:29 control but instead how can we kind of
1:56:31 continue to push the state to to go
1:56:33 farther I do think that and I actually
1:56:36 think that more specific examples would
1:56:39 be helpful because I don't think the
1:56:41 average person I I I don't think the
1:56:43 average person is gonna understand what
1:56:45 goal this is like so I think I would I
1:56:49 don't know which examples those are but
1:56:51 it seems like examples would be helpful
1:56:54 and maybe more specific examples because
1:56:56 I think otherwise this point is going to
1:56:59 lost is that the role of the city to it
1:57:03 seems like it should be these kind of
1:57:05 things should dealt with at say the
1:57:06 state or
1:57:08 federal it should be but we can sign on
1:57:11 to letters um advocating for policy so
1:57:15 that would be our role or are you trying
1:57:17 to set policies for for the city itself
1:57:21 no that
1:57:22 Statewide or um uh for a particular
1:57:29 industry yeah but we yeah we could um if
1:57:33 generalizing it means it's not
1:57:35 understood we could look at more uh
1:57:39 examples of what those sources are so it
1:57:41 doesn't look like we're calling out
1:57:43 deviation specifically we could also
1:57:45 potentially maybe pull out some of the
1:57:48 more technical words yeah exactly maybe
1:57:51 it's pulling out of that piece to make
1:57:53 it a little
1:57:57 streamlined a little confus maybe
1:58:00 because I haven't read it in detail as
1:58:02 well but so what is the goal of the
1:58:05 policy is it because first when I was
1:58:08 listening to you I thought it was more
1:58:10 for and I totally get it mean you know
1:58:13 even though you the G emissions cutting
1:58:17 down goals are pretty ambitious as for
1:58:20 the city and it is way more complicated
1:58:23 actually you know and as you mentioned
1:58:25 there are a lot of things which
1:58:27 especially being a city are out of your
1:58:29 control because you know you don't have
1:58:32 the control over what everybody else
1:58:36 does or passes through his but at the
1:58:38 same time as a city those emissions will
1:58:41 contribute to your calculation correct
1:58:44 that that is where the problem is so
1:58:46 first I thought you were trying to give
1:58:48 the city a little bit of flexibility so
1:58:51 basically you were trying to spell it
1:58:52 out that there are a few emissions which
1:58:55 are out of control and these are some
1:58:58 examples which will be still contributed
1:59:00 to the city just as an FYI so the
1:59:03 ambitious goal may or may not include
1:59:07 you know the reduction in these
1:59:08 emissions is that the goal of this
1:59:10 policy or is it actually to spell it out
1:59:13 as an fi for the state that hey this is
1:59:16 what is happening and so we need the
1:59:18 flexibility but you guys need to do
1:59:20 something about it so
1:59:22 that is where I am kind of lost I'm not
1:59:25 sure sure yeah maybe flexibility was not
1:59:27 not the right word for me to use I I
1:59:31 think simply put the the policy is
1:59:33 intended to um encourage the city to
1:59:37 Advocate at the state level for some of
1:59:39 these uh to address greenhouse gas
1:59:42 emissions that should be um impacted at
1:59:45 the state level versus at the city level
1:59:47 so then I have another additional
1:59:49 question so is there a discussion in
1:59:53 your greenhouse gas emissions inventory
1:59:56 and reduction programs where you
1:59:58 actually spell out what are the factors
2:00:01 which are not controlled by the city and
2:00:03 how they add up to your greenhouse gas
2:00:06 emissions I think that would be a good
2:00:08 thing to add because you know that is
2:00:10 going to add to your gions no matter
2:00:13 what and you may not have enough control
2:00:15 over it yeah some of them are included
2:00:18 into our greenhouse gas inventory some
2:00:20 are not so for in Aviation is not
2:00:23 included in our current CommunityWide
2:00:25 numbers although we do have some of
2:00:28 those numbers based on um estimates of
2:00:32 population and income level that's kind
2:00:34 of disaggregated down to City levels
2:00:36 right so they're uh some of those
2:00:40 numbers uh we have some we don't have
2:00:44 and I think to some degree as greenhouse
2:00:46 gas inventory processes change um there
2:00:50 is going to be kind of a update and kind
2:00:52 of what is included into those
2:00:54 greenhouse gas inventories and so some
2:00:56 of these aspects in particular are kind
2:00:59 of on that that next edge of whether or
2:01:02 not they're included into greenhouse gas
2:01:04 inventories in the future as we're
2:01:05 thinking about a more comprehensive look
2:01:08 at really where do our greenhouse gas
2:01:09 inventory uh greenhouse gas emissions
2:01:11 come from and so just one thing I would
2:01:14 like to add so it is good to have these
2:01:16 assumptions or the discussions clearly
2:01:19 stated somewhere and I'm myself doing G
2:01:22 inventory for the company so I can tell
2:01:24 you very frankly as you said you know
2:01:26 the processes change and the criteria
2:01:29 change so I actually note down the
2:01:31 assumptions or whatever is what data is
2:01:35 available or what is not available I
2:01:37 have clear listings of all of it because
2:01:39 you know I assume over the next five to
2:01:42 10 years there will be a lot of back and
2:01:44 forth
2:01:44 on that will be it thank
2:01:49 you what was it the intent of this
2:01:51 policy to talk only about things outside
2:01:54 of City's demand or is it also City's uh
2:01:57 decisions the city may make which would
2:01:59 affect expenditure of greenhouse gas in
2:02:02 the broader uh World for for example
2:02:06 policies about sending people to
2:02:08 conferences in an airplane versus
2:02:11 attending virtually or I mean even the
2:02:14 even this wonderful facility here is
2:02:17 reducing our greenhouse gas emissions
2:02:21 here on a local basis so is is that part
2:02:25 of the intent or is that covered
2:02:26 somewhere else so I would say those are
2:02:29 covered other points in in the C plan
2:02:31 and and the climate action plan around
2:02:34 specifically are um reducing say energy
2:02:37 use from our buildings right and from
2:02:40 our city operations things like that
2:02:42 this policy is really focused on the
2:02:44 things um outside of our control
2:02:48 directly outside of our control like an
2:02:50 example being like is it building code a
2:02:52 good example of this like trying to
2:02:54 advocate for I think that's what like
2:02:58 yeah yeah I don't think so we have
2:03:00 others around the building code I think
2:03:02 this is like operations at King counties
2:03:08 um um at the the dump essentially where
2:03:12 we get accounted for that even though
2:03:15 it's not within the city it's for
2:03:17 community members within isoa that are
2:03:20 flying we're getting we can account for
2:03:23 those emissions I don't know what other
2:03:26 good example yeah another good example
2:03:27 is like um you know for instance if our
2:03:31 community members are buying a lot of
2:03:34 tables and the taable you know the
2:03:36 manufacturing of those tables are
2:03:38 causing a lot of greenhouse gas
2:03:39 emissions right we as the city can't
2:03:43 really pass any policies or we can't
2:03:46 really pass too many policies that are
2:03:47 addressing the greenhouse gas emissions
2:03:49 and manufacturing of a table from some
2:03:52 else but this policy within our comp
2:03:56 plan is to say well where possible let's
2:04:00 work with the state or Advocate at the
2:04:02 state level to kind of put into place
2:04:04 those policies that could address kind
2:04:06 of that material consumption that that
2:04:09 is just not really accounted for in most
2:04:10 of our greenhouse gas
2:04:16 inventories well why don't we can try
2:04:18 and rework it like this one needs a
2:04:21 little yeah yeah well at least for this
2:04:24 version of a comp plan we can we'll
2:04:26 either simplify it so it's easier to
2:04:29 understand or add some more and or add
2:04:32 some more examples so fol have a better
2:04:35 understanding and then I think as we get
2:04:38 into the IAP kind of finessing I would
2:04:40 suggest to generalize it a little bit
2:04:42 and just speak
2:04:44 to being Advocates lobbyists with the
2:04:48 legislature to promote the reduction in
2:04:50 ght emission
2:04:53 all forms of transportation material
2:04:55 consumption
2:05:01 Etc excellent the last on then s of a
2:05:04 general
2:05:05 comment yeah so the last one is there's
2:05:08 a there's a section at the end of the
2:05:10 environmental uh and Community uh
2:05:13 stewardship uh element related to uh
2:05:16 results in
2:05:18 accountability um and uh
2:05:22 the comment was to incorporate this
2:05:23 throughout the C plan um and Stephen
2:05:27 actually might have a better response uh
2:05:29 to this than than I do but um my
2:05:31 understanding is that for the the most
2:05:33 part these are kind of standard uh
2:05:35 policies that are um incorporated into
2:05:38 all of the the subsections of the
2:05:40 comprehensive plan um uh and there're
2:05:44 also specific metrics for results and
2:05:46 accountability are recognized in each of
2:05:48 the the functional plans themselves
2:05:51 Stephen do you have anything to add on
2:05:53 the results and
2:05:55 accountability uh policy no I think you
2:05:57 covered it I mean it's it's the intent
2:06:01 with creating that section for all the
2:06:03 elements was to recognize that all the
2:06:04 functional plans already have identified
2:06:07 metrics aligned with all these policies
2:06:10 and we want to make sure that
2:06:11 flexibility on if we want to change
2:06:13 those metrics stay with the functional
2:06:16 plans because once you have it built
2:06:18 into the comprehensive plan you have to
2:06:21 go through the comprensive plan process
2:06:23 to make those changes which is a timely
2:06:26 process to do that which the functional
2:06:29 plans you can do that at pretty much any
2:06:31 time whenever you have these functional
2:06:34 plan discussions on making
2:06:38 updates well this was my comment and my
2:06:41 take on and dis was reading through all
2:06:43 these plans and all of a sudden the only
2:06:45 place I really saw this results and
2:06:47 accountability was in the environmental
2:06:50 section and I'm like well that's kind of
2:06:52 weird and that's why I brought up the
2:06:54 comment that may be a overall section
2:06:56 added to the whole comp plan which is
2:06:58 you need to you know build the programs
2:07:00 to make this to assess the results and
2:07:04 make some accountability but it really
2:07:06 didn't fit in just this section so
2:07:10 that's that's how I came up with
2:07:15 that I can I think we had this because
2:07:18 the comment was within the environment
2:07:21 element we had it in that section but I
2:07:23 can I'll include it as a general comment
2:07:25 in the letter yeah I think it's a
2:07:27 general comment more that should be a
2:07:30 section maybe in the comp plan for all
2:07:31 sections to follow not just for the
2:07:35 environmental
2:07:38 only we're already over time for
2:07:40 tonight's meeting so what those the
2:07:42 comments on that unless anybody has
2:07:45 strong I can just talk about next step
2:07:48 so um David and I are going to take all
2:07:50 the feedback on environment element and
2:07:53 make the changes as was discussed
2:07:55 tonight
2:07:56 um into the element and then any of
2:08:00 those that are not addressed or we've
2:08:02 decided to Funt towards um IAP update
2:08:05 we'll make sure those are captured in
2:08:07 the letter still and reflected there um
2:08:10 and then we'll be making a couple
2:08:11 revisions to the letter that will go to
2:08:14 PPC Don I'll probably we can talk after
2:08:17 the meeting and get that to you uh
2:08:19 tomorrow morning you
2:08:22 um if folks we did uh send out the link
2:08:25 to the letter last night um uh and it
2:08:29 was added to the meeting packet if there
2:08:31 were any other comments concerns that we
2:08:33 didn't address tonight um or that you
2:08:36 felt like your comments weren't
2:08:37 reflected please let us know tomorrow
2:08:39 morning if possible um but we really did
2:08:43 uh try to just take all that feedback
2:08:46 andate uh directly into that letter so
2:08:50 to send that letter by
2:08:52 yeah to that will go to Stephen to
2:08:54 include in the PPC
2:08:57 packet um and then just before we close
2:09:01 out I have three quick things I wanted
2:09:02 to do in the rest
2:09:04 of we can close this session unless
2:09:06 there's any other questions
2:09:10 feedback thank you Stephen for being
2:09:13 here thank you
2:09:15 Stephen thank you all
2:09:22 three um quick items before we close out
2:09:24 I wanted to see if any youth report I
2:09:27 know Mina is not here if there's
2:09:28 anything you wanted to share I just
2:09:30 wanted to ask does the environmental
2:09:31 board ever do anything for the salmon
2:09:35 event we haven't so just considering
2:09:38 that it's like fair and by Nature it's
2:09:40 it's gonna be a lot of littering and
2:09:41 such it may be an idea to
2:09:45 consider yeah we could send out
2:09:47 volunteer opportunities the city is
2:09:49 doing a booth this year that all the
2:09:52 Departments share um we are not
2:09:55 sponsoring any boosts we did last year
2:09:57 uh but we are not doing that this years
2:10:00 but we can send out opportunities for to
2:10:02 get involved I know the Hatchery has
2:10:05 volunteer opportunities I think through
2:10:07 the chamber too um so I think it'd be
2:10:09 wonderful to be the board out there or
2:10:11 even out talking with members of the
2:10:13 community people wanted to now that you
2:10:14 have your nice name takes so yeah
2:10:17 definitely maybe
2:10:19 something why she did that
2:10:24 so that's a great maybe we could have a
2:10:25 conversation about that in September
2:10:27 ahead of am and day's session if you
2:10:30 have specific ideas for that yeah we
2:10:32 love to hear nothing in particular it's
2:10:34 just kind of flating right my
2:10:37 mind um great and then um what I do have
2:10:42 a number of updates and David and I
2:10:44 wanted to se some volunteers uh for
2:10:46 something and I have some reminders I
2:10:48 will send those all in an email because
2:10:50 I don't want to keep you all here here
2:10:52 um the last two things I wanted to
2:10:53 mention quickly are thank you you all
2:10:57 are reviewing three massive plans over
2:11:00 the last six weeks um the park plan H
2:11:05 comp plan and the urban for management
2:11:07 plan those are one brand new plan and
2:11:10 two major updates so just wanted to say
2:11:12 thank you I know it's a huge amount of
2:11:13 time especially during summer um so
2:11:16 really really appreciate all that
2:11:19 input um last thing I wanted to say is
2:11:21 thank you to Nick Nick is wrapping up
2:11:24 actually next week um he's done a ton of
2:11:26 work over the last few months on climate
2:11:29 vulnerability assessment resilience Hub
2:11:31 led a climate challenge uh team leader
2:11:34 training with members of the community
2:11:37 and help coordinate volunteers and ton
2:11:39 more so just huge thank you to Nick Nick
2:11:42 will be traveling uh for a bit and then
2:11:45 um maybe looking into some Park
2:11:47 interpretation and yeah so really
2:11:50 appreciate everything that Nick's done
2:11:52 for the city and please share your
2:11:55 appreciation on your way the
2:12:06 door all right with that thank you to an