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Environmental Board
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Wednesday, August 14, 2024
6:30 PM
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Brief Verbal Update Urban Forest Management Plan Implementation (I)
AB 8915
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Environmental Board · Feb 26, 2024
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Park Board · Jun 24, 2024
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Park Board · Sep 23, 2024
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Services, Safety & Parks Committee · Nov 19, 2024
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Services, Safety & Parks Committee · Jan 28, 2025
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City Council Regular Meeting · Feb 3, 2025
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Environmental Board · Apr 9, 2025
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Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update
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Planning, Development & Environment Committee · Mar 28, 2023
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Human Services Commission · Sep 20, 2023
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Park Board · Nov 27, 2023
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hearing examiner · Jun 6, 2024
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Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update - Draft Review
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Planning, Development & Environment Committee · Sep 9, 2024
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Draft Comprehensive Plan
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Agenda · 6 items
Transcript · 3,153 segments
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2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of July 10, 2024
5 min · packet pp.3–4
Open packet at p.3 ↗
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 07-10-24 Environmental Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. July 10, 2024 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Draft Urban Forest Management Plan
45 min · Dan Hintz, Urban Forest Supervisor Chris Peiffer, Consultant, PlanITGeo · packet pp.5–143
Topics:
Trees
Previously discussed:
Park Board · Jun 24, 2024
Open packet at p.5 ↗
Staff report:
Parks & Community Services P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
4b
Draft Comprehensive Plan
Discussion · 60 min · Stephen Padua, Planning Manager · packet pp.145–177
Topics:
Land Use
Previously discussed:
Environmental Board · Mar 29, 2024
Open packet at p.145 ↗
Staff report:
Community Planning & Development 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
5. REPORTS
5a
Natural Environment Checklist
packet pp.179–180
Open packet at p.179 ↗
Staff report:
Community Planning and Development 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
5b
Youth Report
5 min
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
Environmental Board Workplan
packet pp.181–185
Open packet at p.181 ↗
Staff report:
APPROVED: 3/13/2024 REVISED: 8/7/2024
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right welcome uh this is the August 14th
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that correct August 14th meeting of the
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ISA environmental board I'm Don mcams
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I'll be chairing tonight's meeting due
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to the hybrid format of today's meeting
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I'd like to start by providing some
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guidelines we have participants in the
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room as well as those attending
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virtually for all meeting attendees
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please speak clearly and pause
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frequently state your name each time
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before speaking for those in the room
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please raise your name card to indicate
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an interest to speak for those attending
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virtually mute your microphone when not
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speaking and we'll call on you when
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you're ready to speak if you're having
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technical issues try joining the meeting
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using a different device smartphone or
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tablet or use the Callin information to
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meeting invite to call in board members
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attending virtually please uh to
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indicate your desire to speak send a
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chat and type question or comment or you
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can raise your hand virtually and
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watching for it and wait to be
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acknowledged um we will summarize
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agreement around recommendations at the
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end of each toet and note if there's
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dissent Stacy can we go through
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attendance H Tom Anderson here Davidson
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here Jamie Finch here Raj Ki here K pan
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here Nina June has an excused absence
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Don McWilliams here dixy bear has an
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excused absence Alex Lee tigner has an
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excused absence and newon has an excused
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absence
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Gonzalez
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here and John Smith here and Keith and
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John will be sitting in his regular MERS
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tonight
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and I understand we have somebody that
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would like to speak
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online Hy you can unmute and go ahead
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and make your
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comments sorry do you have more public
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comment okay
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yeah go ahead
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Connie
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okay yes no yes no yes I am uh making
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public comment and because I grind
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through all of these reports in great
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detail I went up level and I sent you
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all the City Vision which I don't know
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that you've actually seen the City
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Vision much and what struck me at the
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end of that Vision was passion for the
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environment and as I read through the
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uh Urban Forest management plan and then
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yet again cruising through the
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comprehensive plan uh you know I
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actually didn't feel passion for the
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environment there seems to be
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instead a a
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management of the
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environment there's
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no uh like vision and value statement at
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the beginning of the comprehensive plan
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that describes isqua and what it
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envisions itself to
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be and so it turns into a plan that just
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says and we've have plans that support
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our plans that support our plans but it
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doesn't say who the town or what the
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town is supposed to be for us who live
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here and that's a big deficit I think
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that it is it is these are simply pieces
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of paper with no soul now what I found
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encouraging is that the environmental
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board has shown this passion for the
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environment in
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unrelentingly making comments and trying
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to attempt changes and Infuse all of
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these things with the spirit of the
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vision and I don't want you to be
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discouraged because it does not feel
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like you're being being supported often
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this is a core value of the community
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and we appreciate your efforts to imbue
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all of our plans with a passion for the
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environment and and insist that that be
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included in all of it thank
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you thank you
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G right first up on our agenda tonight
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Dan hint the urban Force supervisor is
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here to talk to us about the draft Urban
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Force management plan do the minutes
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first oh missed that thank
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you uh on the minutes from last uh from
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the last meeting are there any comments
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questions clarifications that need to be
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added hearing none the minutes are
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accepted okay that's okay all right so
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Dan's here to talk to us about the urban
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Forest management plan uh Dan is joined
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by Feer as I correct his consultant um
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and Dan is looking for some discussion
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around at the end thanks Don um yes once
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again I think I've met most of you but
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um Dan hint the city's uh Urban Forest
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supervisor within our parks and
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Community Services Department um I'll be
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handing it off to Chris here in just a
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minute to kind of take lead on the
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presentation and then we'll both be here
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for questions discussion as it relates
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to the first draft of the city's first
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uh Urban Forest management plan um and
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just kind of you know this was in the
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memo I sent but just a few reminders you
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know this this plan is really meant to
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serve as a road map and guiding document
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for the next decade uh as we continue to
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build our first urban forestry program
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um we've been in development of this
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since last fall we brought this to the
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environmental board in November which is
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really kind of early on um again in
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February to uh discuss some of the uh
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Community engagement steps we were
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planning at the time and then some of
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the internal staff and kind of internal
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plans and City policy review that planet
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G did um and then we have since you know
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developed the uh vision statement uh
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five guiding principles um and then goal
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strategies and recommendations
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associated with each of those principles
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so I know it's a big document shared out
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um I tried to kind of call out those
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sections with the guiding principles and
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those goals strategies and
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recommendations U which is section two
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of the draft report right now is an area
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to focus uh because we really want to
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make sure we feel good about what we
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have in there if missing anything or if
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there's stuff we need emphasize or
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change a little bit before then the the
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last section that has not been uh built
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out is the implementation section so
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really making sure we're feeling good
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about the uh strategies and
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recommendations before that gets
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Incorporated in the second draft of the
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Forex management plan so um that being
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said we have a presentation that will
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recap a little bit of the uh kind of
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steps and process to date and then
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really kind of focus in some of the uh
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kind of key sections and as I mentioned
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those goal strategies and
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recommendations uh including the IAP 55%
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goal and some of the scenarios to uh
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potentially achieve that as well so um
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want to reiterate to you know we're
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bringing this to you tonight we really
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excited to have conversation answers
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questions if we don't get to comments or
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you have other feedback I believe Stacy
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has you know communicated with you all
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that you know pretty much through the
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end of the month we'll um accept
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comments on this first draft before
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updating that and having a second draft
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ready in in September so uh hopefully
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having this adopted by Council towards
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the end of the fall and in November
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numers is what we're what we're uing
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stay on track for here so another
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another couple months of you know
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continuing to build out this first draft
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and bring it to a final draft adopted by
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the city um so on that note I'm gonna
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hand it over to Chris Piper with Planet
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gr consultant he'll kind of tee us up
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here um and then I think I'll take one
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of the slides kind emphasizing what
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feedback we are looking for tonight and
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uh let Chris run with it after that
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great yeah thanks Dan and thanks
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everyone for the opportunity to present
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an update on the urban Forest man M plan
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for isqua the first ever plan uh for the
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urban forest and uh as Dan mentioned my
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name is Chris Pier I'm the director of
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urban forestry Consulting at Planet Geo
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going on 10 years coming in October uh
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as the Director and now the project
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manager for this management planning
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project and just want to recognize my
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supporting staff Alex and Matt who um
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are experienced in policy planning and
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management of trees in the Pacific
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Northwest and they're certified arborous
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that bring insights and uh Tech
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technical expertise to the plan uh so
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what I'll do is I'll share an agenda
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brief overview and then turn it over to
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Dan on our request and before doing that
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though I do want to recognize our time
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together in February that uh had was a
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joint meeting with the board there was
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feedback that you all provided that I
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hope you see in the plan that it's
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captured and we will present on that to
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a degree and in the open discussion you
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know some of those feedback we received
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in February was around interested
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parties to engage with you youth schools
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large uh land owners uh looking at the
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holistic ecosystem approach with the
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understory whether it's invasive or uh
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desirable vegetation and that it's not
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just the trees it's the entire uh Urban
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environment ecosystem and then also uh
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having information available uh you know
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after this project on the city's website
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so that the community can take part in
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the shared vision for the urban Forest
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uh we also looked at ways to achieve the
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canopy goal with you know free tree
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opportunities and what other cities are
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doing like in Belleview uh a board
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member shared an example there and um we
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looked at how this plan aligns with
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other plans uh looking at the clean
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energy initiatives in the comp plan but
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also of course the climate action plan
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isqua IAP uh we looked at defining trees
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versus the forest as a whole looking at
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individual trees and urbanized areas
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versus you know the valuable Forest that
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you're fortunate to have in isqua um
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also how this ties into storm water
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management and green infrastructure and
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other initiatives and uh priorities in
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the city and of course the question that
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comes up oftentimes is funding and how
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to approach that with these new
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initiatives or uh ramping up planting to
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achieve a canopy goal and then aligning
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um also with the park system plan that's
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being updated um currently so that's
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just a quick overview really appreciate
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you weighing in and taking the time to
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read these extensive documents and you
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know separate from the management plan
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itself is an 80 page tree data summary
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document so some of the detail that may
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not be seen in the body of the plan will
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be in supporting studies and and
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reference so just keeping that in mind
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so that's an overview uh where we were
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at how we incorporated some of um the
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feedback you shared and what I'd like to
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present this evening is just going
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through uh an update getting into our
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key findings how that informed the
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long-term framework and then a deeper Di
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into the canopy goal um the requirements
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to achieve such an ambitious goal and
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then we want to have a lot of time for
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open discussion and then as um Dan
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mentioned we'll um at the end of the
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month um be collecting your feedback so
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I'm going to pause there turn it over to
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Dan for um the request that we'd like to
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make of the board and then I'll get into
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the
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presentation yes so kind of touched on
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this already and the memo but just to
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kind of reiterate you know we're looking
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for um feedback from the environmental
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board on progress to date which will be
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recapped a bit here um and Chris kind of
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recapped a bunch of that already uh the
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vision statement and five guiding
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principles that really kind of structure
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the framework of the forest management
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plan um and can goal considerations uh
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you know specifically around um the icat
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55% goal um so any additional feedback
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in general of what to consider when you
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know working towards a final version of
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the usmp uh is that relates to the
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vision statement and guiding principles
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and then kind of the next tiar down the
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goals strategies and
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recommendations um as I mentioned kind
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of feedback on canopy goal
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implementation factors uh and then
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certainly not less important but I you
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know there's a lot of essentially a lot
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of data is in the current conditions in
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terms of the tree canopy uh assessment
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updates the right perryan canopy study
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some of the
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vulnerability um uh you know kind of uh
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discussion around our Urban Forest um
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pref preferred tree list uh lot lots of
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stuff that Chris will kind of touch on
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briefly here um you know if there's any
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feedback or kind of thoughts on that
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section too we we happily cover that so
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uh we'll have a recapping slide of this
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at the end of the presentation too so
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we'll come back to this before we uh
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jump into discussion and Dan would you
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like feedback as we go or would you like
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to wait till the
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end yeah thank you I appreciate the
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question too um I think we'll keep the
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presentation brief so that um your uh
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questions and thoughts um won't get lost
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and we'll make sure to spend enough time
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on those at the end if that works for
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the group but if there's something
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pressing feel free to interrupt thank
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you all right thank you so what I'll do
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now is just provide a brief overview of
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the timeline it was already discussed
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but as a visual um just to show um the
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the path that led us here to our
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presentation this evening and so it
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always starts with what do we have the
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Baseline assessment um as D Dan
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mentioned back in around November
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October November of
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2023 but then we need to take what we're
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finding from the assessment and educate
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and then also gather feedback and uh
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input in uh what the plan uh will entail
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and what the current conditions mean to
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the city staff as well as interested
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parties and incorporating our planning
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processes and those those findings along
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with the engagement findings into the
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long-term framework um that was held um
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just before the this month where we
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drafted those and you'll see that
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incorporated in tonight's
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presentation and then the plan
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development process tying this all
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together telling the story and providing
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the road map on how to achieve a shared
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vision for the urban forest and as we go
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into this feedback period of the draft
14:17
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we'll continue our presentations we have
14:19
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a few more meetings with interested
14:21
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parties and incorporating that into uh
14:25
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draft number two in anticipation of the
14:28
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park board making a recommendation to
14:30
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city council to adopt the plan uh
14:32
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towards November of this year and making
14:35
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um wrapping up the project by the end of
14:36
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the
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year and so uh from our last discussion
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we got feedback on how to engage the
14:45
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public in a survey and other means and
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this is just a highlevel summary that
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we're providing of the public survey and
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from the results you see that most
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participants were from squawk Mountain
14:55
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neighborhood and isqua Highlands and one
14:58
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thing that's unique from my experience
14:59
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of doing these is that most participants
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for isqua were between the ages of 35 to
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55 with 40% and 38% uh were over 55
15:09
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years old often times it's more of the
15:11
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older demographics that participate in
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these surveys so it's a interesting sign
15:17
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and when we surveyed uh those
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participants about their interest in
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supporting a city-wide canopy cover goal
15:23
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um by planting trees on their own
15:24
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property not just the city-led public
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plantings 26 percent Express strong
15:30
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interest in doing so and that also tied
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into the University of Washington Evans
15:35
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School study um that they were doing as
15:37
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part of concurrently with this planning
15:41
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project and from the survey we also um
15:44
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gathered uh feedback uh on the concerns
15:47
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from the public and some of those relate
15:48
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to invasive plant species um wildfires
15:52
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harmful tree pests and diseases and tree
15:55
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related issues like sidewalk damage and
15:57
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potential limbs falling
15:59
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as well as uh complications around tree
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permitting
16:02
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processes and to address these concerns
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we found that 74% of the public support
16:08
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management plan actions for green
16:10
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infrastructure development uh 68% want
16:13
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increased tree planting in underserved
16:15
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areas and
16:17
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66% uh seek initiatives for Tree Care on
16:20
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private
16:21
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property and public engagement
16:23
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initiatives that they'd like to see
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include volunteer events Workforce
16:27
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Development and uh citizen science with
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27% for that so looking
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ahead we see that 86% Envision the urban
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Forest as a refuge for wildlife 76% want
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to enhance the environmental health 71%
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desire uh an expanded Green Space uh
16:49
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where it's a network of connected Green
16:51
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Space for all communities so you can see
16:53
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how that really ties into the canopy
16:54
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goal and uh some of the strategies that
16:57
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we'll discuss this evening
17:01
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and as part of this planning process as
17:03
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Dan mentioned there is an update to the
17:05
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tree canopy assessment and we completed
17:07
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that in 2023 it's an update to the 2019
17:11
↗
assessment and this assessment informs
17:13
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strategies to increase tree cover
17:15
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prioritize specific areas uh supporting
17:19
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what we've heard from the public and
17:21
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from our last meeting in Fe in February
17:24
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uh we discussed the repairi and canopy
17:26
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assessment portion of the of the UTC the
17:29
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Urban Tree canopy assessment now this
17:31
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slide here summarizes what we found in
17:33
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terms of canopy cover change over a
17:35
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10year period and from that time uh 479
17:39
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Acres of canopy were gained which is
17:42
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unique and U we can talk more about that
17:44
↗
we have some potential causes for those
17:46
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gains and the data summary report really
17:49
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hones in on where those changes happened
17:51
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at the neighborhood sub uh planning
17:53
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planning sub area as well and also at
17:56
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the reparan corridor level
17:59
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and so um we also on this slide just
18:02
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summarized some of the key factors and
18:04
↗
considerations involved with these types
18:06
↗
of Assessments because this can serve as
18:08
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a baseline measurement going forward to
18:10
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measure plan
18:13
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progress and as part of our request um
18:16
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we'd like to get your feedback on
18:18
↗
sections of the plan that was shared um
18:20
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in preparation for this meeting this
18:22
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evening and so uh this slide just
18:24
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provides an overview of some of the key
18:26
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components within the current conditions
18:28
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section of the plan and we start with
18:31
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those tree related
18:33
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assessments we then describe the
18:35
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conditions of current management
18:37
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programs and the feedback we heard from
18:39
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City staff and interested parties as
18:41
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well as the current and potential risks
18:43
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uh and vulnerabilities facing isqua
18:46
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trees lastly we tie this all together in
18:49
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an evaluation of all urban forestry
18:52
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components using uh industry standards
18:55
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and uh Frameworks from the US Forest
18:57
↗
Service to doent where is a quiz at now
19:00
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with the new urban forestry program new
19:02
↗
Staffing and this plan and where it will
19:05
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be in the future by implementing the
19:09
↗
plan so we dive a little deeper and this
19:12
↗
slide uh will provide an example of tree
19:14
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related Assessments in the plan's Uh
19:17
↗
current condition section and one thing
19:19
↗
to note here is we utilize the
19:21
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assessment data from the green isqua
19:23
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20-year implementation guide where we
19:26
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gained insights into the urban Forest
19:28
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composition position now right now the
19:30
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city does not have a comprehensive
19:32
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inventory of public trees along streets
19:34
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and in maintained areas of parks so this
19:37
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data is really crucial for that first
19:39
↗
step of understanding the composition of
19:41
↗
trees across isqua and so um here we
19:44
↗
just see we reworked some of the
19:47
↗
analyses to look specifically at the top
19:49
↗
five uh dominant overstory tree species
19:52
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the dominant understory tree species and
19:54
↗
the dominant invasive plant and tree
19:56
↗
species and so that starts to pain a
19:58
↗
picture but you know uh along streets
20:01
↗
and in maintained areas of parks differ
20:04
↗
from what grows naturally so we'll want
20:06
↗
to look at um recommendations around an
20:09
↗
inventory in the future to really
20:11
↗
provide those uh insights into making
20:13
↗
planting and management decisions and
20:16
↗
one thing to note here is that um from
20:18
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what we find with this data is that
20:20
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generally the forests appear relatively
20:22
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young given that Douglas furs are more
20:25
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abundant compared to your Western red
20:27
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seeders and hemlocks that typically you
20:29
↗
know are um late succession and um
20:32
↗
maturing trees for a maturing
20:36
↗
Forest so now um in the current cond
20:40
↗
conditions section we also provide an
20:42
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example of how we evaluated current
20:45
↗
conditions with management plans and uh
20:48
↗
different programs and practices so on
20:50
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the left we have this table that
20:52
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summarizes key planning elements and
20:55
↗
this includes a brief purpose statement
20:57
↗
about that plan how the plan aligns or
21:00
↗
doesn't align with Urban Forest
21:02
↗
management uh key statements that we
21:04
↗
found in those documents relating to
21:06
↗
urban forestry and any areas where
21:08
↗
potential conflicts exist or uh
21:12
↗
conflicts that may arise if we do not
21:14
↗
properly address it in the management
21:15
↗
plan and this is just paraphrase for
21:18
↗
presentation uh and so then also we
21:21
↗
looked at um in the current conditions
21:23
↗
section some of the existing and
21:25
↗
potential treest and diseases of concern
21:28
↗
and this may have certain management
21:30
↗
implications and so this slide just
21:32
↗
captures some of the concerns with
21:34
↗
Mediterranean Oak and emerald ashore and
21:37
↗
we can talk more about the host species
21:40
↗
and uh potential risk relating to that
21:42
↗
but it is a primary those are primary
21:44
↗
Pest of concern
21:48
↗
there and just as a brief overview this
21:51
↗
slide provides an example of how we
21:53
↗
examine vulnerability of trees in the
21:55
↗
region com to uh in terms of climate
21:57
↗
change and we utilize the climate change
22:00
↗
response framework uh which has these
22:02
↗
online tools to identify common Street
22:05
↗
trees in the Pacific Northwest and these
22:08
↗
are the trees that are least vulnerable
22:09
↗
to increased heat projections so make
22:13
↗
sure you read the disclaimer at the
22:14
↗
bottom this is not intended to serve as
22:16
↗
a tree planting list you'll notice
22:18
↗
invasives on there but it can show you
22:20
↗
what may you know proliferate with
22:23
↗
changing conditions and also uh wanted
22:26
↗
to recognize the city does emphasize
22:28
↗
planting Natives and also to identify
22:30
↗
locally Source seeds for you know
22:32
↗
seedling plantings and and other
22:37
↗
efforts and lastly for the highlights I
22:40
↗
just wanted to discuss the findings from
22:42
↗
the US Forest Services Urban Forest
22:45
↗
audit uh and also the indicators of
22:47
↗
sustainable Urban Forest management and
22:50
↗
just as a um summary this is where we
22:52
↗
document our findings we score it and
22:56
↗
then we can utilize that to develop
22:58
↗
Strate IES in the plan and also have
23:00
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that to serve as a monitoring mechanism
23:03
↗
and so this slide just summarizes uh the
23:06
↗
various categories of those elements and
23:09
↗
here's an example of the elements
23:10
↗
pertaining to the trees then we also
23:13
↗
have elements pertaining to management
23:15
↗
and the people that are uh influencing
23:18
↗
and benefiting from the urban
23:19
↗
forest and those elements are ranked on
23:22
↗
a low to moderate to good score and it's
23:25
↗
based on our findings industry standards
23:28
↗
local context and also input from the
23:31
↗
city um staff and interested
23:35
↗
parties and so as a result of this
23:38
↗
process uh we find that each category um
23:42
↗
is then scored and we're able to um
23:45
↗
utilize this to develop strategies and I
23:48
↗
just wanted to point out that this score
23:50
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was expected for a new urban forestry
23:53
↗
program with the first ever Urban Forest
23:55
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management plan in development with new
23:57
↗
Staffing so this is a starting point and
24:00
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there's some Nuance to this but it's a
24:01
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good starting point from which you can
24:03
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measure
24:06
↗
progress and so I covered this a little
24:08
↗
bit on the previous slides but this
24:10
↗
long-term framework was informed by by
24:13
↗
our planning process and the audit is a
24:15
↗
culmination of the findings from this
24:17
↗
planning
24:20
↗
process and just to really bring this
24:22
↗
home and to illustrate how you know
24:25
↗
we're not just pulling these goals and
24:27
↗
strategies out of the air it's really an
24:29
↗
iterative process informed by data and
24:31
↗
interested parties and so we have um the
24:35
↗
long-term framework cons consisting of
24:38
↗
the vision principles goals strategies
24:41
↗
and smart actions and um as I mentioned
24:45
↗
earlier there's a monitoring and
24:47
↗
implementation component to this plan
24:50
↗
where the indicators and the audit serve
24:53
↗
as a foundation for that monitoring and
24:55
↗
we'll provide the guidance on how to do
24:57
↗
that how to reev evaluate how to um
25:00
↗
apply adaptive management to make sure
25:02
↗
this is a living working document for
25:04
↗
you all to utilize over the next 10
25:08
↗
years and so uh what I'll do now is just
25:11
↗
this is the only time I'll read off the
25:13
↗
slide and I I think it's important to
25:14
↗
read the vision and this was um
25:17
↗
developed in part by City staff and
25:20
↗
interested parties again you know
25:22
↗
Gathering those Vision uh preferences
25:25
↗
from the public survey and from other
25:27
↗
engagement meetings
25:29
↗
and so um this road map towards a
25:32
↗
sustainable Urban Forest is led by this
25:35
↗
vision and it reads isqua isqua
25:37
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envisions A thriving Urban Forest where
25:39
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a diverse and cared for tree canopy
25:41
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strengthens our community for
25:43
↗
generations to come this verdant
25:45
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tapestry will enhance our livability
25:47
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promote health and well-being support
25:49
↗
wildlife and habitat and contribute to a
25:52
↗
sustainable future for all and so that
25:55
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to me starts to exemplify the passion
25:58
↗
around urban forestry um it's a shared
26:01
↗
Vision uh that is needed to achieve you
26:03
↗
know canopy goals and the Ambi ambitious
26:05
↗
goals in the plan but as I mentioned
26:09
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this was supported from the engagement
26:11
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with uh staff and the public and so we
26:14
↗
just call to attention some of those uh
26:17
↗
some of those related um feedback items
26:20
↗
that were
26:22
↗
shared and so I'll be wrapping up uh
26:25
↗
here with the long-term framework this
26:27
↗
was already provided in the plan and you
26:30
↗
know as a PDF so I won't read these but
26:34
↗
those five guiding principles serve as a
26:36
↗
compus because trees are in an
26:37
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everchanging environment there's going
26:39
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to be new changes to resources
26:41
↗
priorities you're going to adapt
26:44
↗
strategies as things change but these
26:45
↗
will be your beacon to stay um heading
26:48
↗
towards the
26:50
↗
vision and so those uh guiding
26:53
↗
principles are then supported by the the
26:56
↗
goals for each of those five categories
26:58
↗
and so um they are numbered each
27:01
↗
strategy within the goal are numbered so
27:03
↗
they're easy to reference and circle
27:05
↗
back to when making updates or creating
27:08
↗
progress reports or or sharing with
27:10
↗
interested parties um where you're at
27:12
↗
with the plan and uh the um the action
27:16
↗
tables in the plan will really get into
27:18
↗
the detail around how to accomplish
27:20
↗
those
27:22
↗
goals and lastly for this presentation
27:25
↗
we'd like to provide uh additional
27:27
↗
details uh and considerations for the
27:30
↗
canopy goal that as you all know was
27:32
↗
established in the isqua climate action
27:35
↗
plan the IAP and So based on industry
27:38
↗
standards uh our local consider uh local
27:41
↗
considerations the findings from the
27:43
↗
management plan um uh we incorporated
27:47
↗
and developed a series of scenarios uh
27:49
↗
and targets that detail how the city
27:52
↗
would achieve 55% canopy cover by
27:55
↗
2035 and those scenarios also looked at
27:58
↗
different canopy goals different
28:01
↗
timelines um different variations in the
28:03
↗
large trees that are planted small trees
28:06
↗
and so the next slide talks about some
28:08
↗
of those inputs but here we see some of
28:11
↗
the highlevel requirements and
28:13
↗
milestones for achieving that goal so in
28:16
↗
short approximately 16,000 trees are
28:18
↗
needed over the next 10 years to
28:20
↗
increase canopy cover by
28:23
↗
4% so we'll talk a little bit about
28:25
↗
those inputs and then uh we'll wrap up
28:28
↗
the presentation and get into discussion
28:30
↗
so that 16,000 tree estimate is based on
28:33
↗
uh factors and considerations that we
28:35
↗
prepared uh with input from the city as
28:38
↗
well as interested parties and as I
28:41
↗
mentioned these Dynamic living organisms
28:43
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are always changing and so there isn't a
28:46
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one method approach to you know
28:48
↗
calculate your canopy goal and what the
28:50
↗
requirements are but we had these inputs
28:53
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to help shape that realistic canopy goal
28:56
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and the way to implement
28:58
↗
it and so here we see um 51% canopy is
29:04
↗
based on the the current canopy of 51%
29:07
↗
is based on the 2023 assessment using
29:10
↗
2021
29:12
↗
imagery 16,000 trees are needed but this
29:15
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means that existing canopy is replaced
29:17
↗
If
29:18
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lost we incorporated tital 18's canopy
29:21
↗
requirements which was co-developed by
29:23
↗
Planet geo with the city in 2022 so
29:26
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we're leveraging that work into the
29:28
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canopy implementation
29:31
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process we applied average canopy
29:33
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diameters for small medium and large
29:35
↗
trees according to US Forest Services ey
29:38
↗
tree research and that uh we also
29:40
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Incorporated there will be deciduous and
29:42
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coniferous trees planted and that a
29:45
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fairly even split of large medium and
29:48
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small canopy trees at maturity will be
29:51
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planted also as a shared commitment to
29:54
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this Urban Forest Vision we we
29:57
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envisioned 7 25% of plantings led by the
30:00
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city and 25% through Partners Property
30:03
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Owners Community associations and by
30:06
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other interested
30:08
↗
parties and other factors that go into
30:11
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implementation uh were considered as
30:13
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well you know of course the cost and
30:14
↗
we'll get into more of that in the um
30:17
↗
implementation uh and uh monitoring
30:20
↗
section of the plan uh we also looked at
30:23
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the data that's needed for evaluating
30:25
↗
progress over time as well as uh what is
30:28
↗
needed in the management plan itself to
30:31
↗
guide this implementation towards that
30:33
↗
canopy cover
30:37
↗
goal so that's an overview of uh the
30:41
↗
project to date I started off with uh
30:44
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the timeline and key updates you know
30:46
↗
looking at the public survey the canopy
30:48
↗
assessment that was conducted in
30:50
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2023 some of the key sections of the
30:53
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current conditions of the plan and these
30:56
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inform the long-term framework that we
30:58
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provided an overview of from the um
31:00
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vision and guiding principles to the
31:02
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goals and actions so in the coming weeks
31:05
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we're going to meet again with this
31:07
↗
sowal me tribe and that'll round out the
31:09
↗
draft reviews and we'll use this
31:11
↗
feedback to prepare draft number two
31:14
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we'll then continue our presentations
31:15
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with boards and committees in September
31:17
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and October and again we're aiming for a
31:20
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city council adoption no in November of
31:22
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this year so with that I'd like to thank
31:25
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you all again for your attention and uh
31:27
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for the opportunity to present an update
31:30
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it's been great working with Dan and the
31:32
↗
city on this important effort a lot of
31:34
↗
key uh interesting things that came out
31:36
↗
of this that stand out with over 50
31:39
↗
management planning projects that I've
31:40
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worked on and so it's really been a
31:42
↗
pleasure working with you all and I mean
31:44
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that honestly and so before getting into
31:46
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open discussion just going to recap our
31:49
↗
request and maybe it doesn't need to be
31:51
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read off and we can turn to open
31:53
↗
discussion but Dan is there anything
31:55
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else to cover before we we move to that
31:59
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no I don't think so so obviously any any
32:01
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kind of key questions
32:03
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clarifications U obviously we'll receive
32:05
↗
comments the time we have on the agenda
32:07
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tonight but like I said any anything
32:08
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that you can share electron
32:10
↗
electronically with Stacy she will
32:11
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summarize get to Chris and I here
32:13
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towards the end of the month um or early
32:15
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September I believe um and like I said
32:18
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I'm happy to happy to chat more about
32:20
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this you know one-onone always and you
32:22
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know we can talk to is if this you know
32:24
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something the board wants to see is a uh
32:27
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uh second version of the draft coming
32:29
↗
back too we can see if that we can fit
32:31
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that intoo so just want to let you know
32:33
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there's still a lot of kind of touch
32:35
↗
points here over the next two months or
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so before we do try to kind of finalize
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move dist
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Council you are our first public
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Outreach onland draft here too good
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thank you Dan thank you Chris um Nancy I
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just have a couple of questions so you
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had talked about not having um uh
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numbers of Street teams trees you
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haven't assess those or trees that are
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in parts so if you don't have that
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assessment how does that fit into the
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canopy numbers that you were talking
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about if you are you just doing it from
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overhead from aial photographs is that
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how you're doing it so you when you talk
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about where we are with our current
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canopy those trees are included in terms
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of their coverage yes we don't know the
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species of them and the of them and that
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type of thing so that's just one
33:26
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question and the second question I have
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for you is I know at times we've talked
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to you about how um psc's contractor
33:34
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comes through and does their things did
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you do any Outreach to PSC or get any
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involvement from their contractor that
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woulds trees in the city I didn't see it
33:43
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in the plan no that's a really good
33:45
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question Nancy and not not specifically
33:46
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around the plan I've been working with
33:48
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psse and BPA around some utility
33:50
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clearing they have been doing and and
33:52
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centrally tradition plateau and count up
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by Central Park um so we are we are
33:57
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tring that better now that information
33:59
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is now coming through me it it is
34:01
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interesting essentially they kind of
34:03
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come to you telling you what is going to
34:04
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be removed there is
34:07
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a way to get compensated for some of
34:10
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those tree removals which is interesting
34:12
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and something we're looking at pursuing
34:13
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to but you know in terms of the best
34:15
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practices things like that I mean we are
34:17
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like you know kind of trusting their
34:19
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team their arborous but I you know I
34:20
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have not seen the conditions that you
34:22
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know maybe look like the bad outcomes
34:24
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versus you know these are considered
34:26
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high danger trees with the you know
34:28
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utility line so that that information is
34:30
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being shared for instance you know they
34:32
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just I don't know if they've actually
34:33
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done the work yet but we got
34:34
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notification that you know between
34:35
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Central Park and tradition Plateau
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there's about 15 to 20 trees coming out
34:40
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but two-thirds or so of those are dead
34:42
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trees right now so that's you know at
34:44
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least at least the tracking I would say
34:46
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I feel like we've made a contact and
34:48
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being clear that I'd like that to come
34:49
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through me moving forward in terms of
34:51
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anything that goes the management
34:53
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recommendations they don't have to get a
34:54
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tree
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permit there's utility exemption
34:58
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yeah yeah you're supposed to essentially
35:01
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notif I mean that that that does relate
35:03
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to our Public Works team too and that's
35:04
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something I'm trying to better kind of
35:06
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organize communicate around to so they
35:08
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they don't need a permit they are still
35:10
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expected to replace those trees and that
35:12
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kind of gets into some of these goals
35:14
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around needing to better identify
35:15
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receiving sites it's done very ad HW
35:17
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right now in terms of all right two
35:18
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trees work can we put two trees in the
35:20
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same sub area and it's be pretty tedious
35:23
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to just kind of get those requests
35:24
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especially if they're kind of short
35:25
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notice we need to get the submitted we
35:26
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need to have somewhere to put it in
35:27
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those generally come through Parks even
35:29
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though parks are often not the ones
35:30
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leading those projects um so I say
35:33
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that's been kind of tricky but yeah the
35:34
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utility St for for psse my understanding
35:37
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that hasn't been the requirement but um
35:39
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for our Public Works team or the rarer
35:42
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occasion the parks is moving right away
35:43
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trees for safety or utility conflicts
35:46
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that is expected be place thanks for the
35:49
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answer the question when I just have one
35:50
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General piece back on the plan I haven't
35:53
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read it in detail one of the confusing
35:55
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things to me when I read it is the
35:57
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discuss of tree Equity because Equity is
36:00
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such a buzzword in this town right now
36:02
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in terms of what city's putting out a
36:04
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lot of it's housing
36:06
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Equity um other kinds of equity and
36:08
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calling something tree
36:10
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Equity is really starting to muddy the
36:13
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water and I maybe it's a common term in
36:17
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the tree world but you might want to
36:20
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find something else so that you're
36:22
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making you're not conflicting it with
36:24
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housing equity and transportation equity
36:27
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and food and all that other Equity
36:29
↗
that's going on it just really when I
36:32
↗
looked at says now how is equity work
36:34
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with trees sure that's just a general
36:37
↗
piece of feedback and it may be the
36:39
↗
right way to go that's that's great
36:41
↗
feedback in Chris may you can add to
36:42
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this a little bit more but there is
36:44
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American Forest is a National
36:45
↗
Organization you're probably familiar um
36:48
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and they they're the ones that created
36:50
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this tool essentially the tree equ tool
36:52
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which is what is uh cited in in the
36:54
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forest management plan so it is it is
36:57
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taking in some of those kind of
36:59
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socioeconomic demographic factors for
37:01
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sure um but more simply it is a tool to
37:05
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sort of prioritize where to best um uh
37:09
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plant trees based on some of those
37:11
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potential shortcomings and it is
37:12
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interesting I mean for isqu we have a
37:14
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pretty high overall tree Equity score at
37:16
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93 but then there are certain
37:18
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neighborhoods where that is
37:19
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significantly lower in the low 80s 83 I
37:21
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think for South Co um Central isqua
37:25
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Highland I think Lakeside are the four
37:26
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areas that have lower scores I think in
37:28
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the 80s generally um so the way I've
37:31
↗
seen it used and once again yeah how we
37:32
↗
how we Define it how we talk about it
37:34
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but in terms of a kind of functional use
37:35
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of it is a lot of these cities David and
37:37
↗
I have actually had some of these
37:38
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conversations we use that tool as a
37:40
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prioritization for tree giveaways and
37:42
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applications so you know if they get
37:44
↗
more applications than trees available
37:47
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um L believe is one of those has been
37:49
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using that tool to kind of prioritize
37:50
↗
how they distribute their uh trees and
37:53
↗
also just for our public tree plantings
37:54
↗
too knowing that those are areas we
37:56
↗
really should kind of emphasize
37:57
↗
prioritize and and better plan for so
38:00
↗
the acity conversation I hear but that
38:02
↗
just hope that provides more context on
38:03
↗
how the tool used and where it came from
38:06
↗
that was just feedback because we're
38:07
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reading the comp plan at the same time
38:09
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and there's a lot of conversation now
38:10
↗
about equity and so when you're reading
38:13
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two documents in the same month in the
38:15
↗
same weeks you really see some confusion
38:18
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that Happ oh that's just might be
38:24
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back um hi Dan hi Chris I'm proud and I
38:28
↗
have a few questions and just some
38:31
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feedback um so one of the things I
38:33
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noticed and um I'm not sure if I missed
38:36
↗
it but I looked at the draft plan and I
38:38
↗
didn't see anywhere where tree canopy
38:41
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was defined like with what exact
38:43
↗
definition of tree canopy is I think the
38:46
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introduction needs to have that I did
38:48
↗
read somewhere it was 14 feet height or
38:51
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some other stuff mean you can find the
38:53
↗
bits and pieces but it needs to be
38:54
↗
defined in the introduction the second
38:57
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question question was um the 55% goal by
39:02
↗
2035 um is this just by on the city
39:06
↗
property City roads it includes the
39:08
↗
private proerties in the entire
39:11
↗
city so that's good to know so that also
39:14
↗
I think needs to be clearly stated
39:16
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somewhere in the introduction part so
39:18
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it's clear going forward what to expect
39:21
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um and so that's good to know because I
39:24
↗
looked at and I think cost somewhere on
39:27
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the present ation slides I noticed that
39:29
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there was a 490,000 per year cost of
39:33
↗
Maintenance or or planting trees and you
39:37
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mentioned that there are 16,000 trees to
39:39
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be planted so my question was um you
39:42
↗
know if it's also on Residential
39:44
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Properties for the whole Community then
39:47
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is there um first question is where does
39:50
↗
the funding for this come from is it
39:52
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just the city or is there some taxpayers
39:54
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money or is there different tax or how
39:57
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is it to yeah so to answer your question
40:00
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yes it is it is a pretty high price tag
40:03
↗
on that last slide but I guess the
40:05
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caveat to that would be putting in
40:07
↗
listed as caliper trees or or large
40:10
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often ball and burlap you know they have
40:11
↗
one to two inch diameter trees and those
40:14
↗
those easily cost three to four to $500
40:16
↗
a piece um and then you know some of the
40:18
↗
installation costs associated with that
40:20
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too so that that that I would say is a
40:22
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high about as high end of an estimate
40:24
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because we do plant a lot of trees there
40:26
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are smaller containers or even be roots
40:28
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or what we call Liv Stakes which are
40:29
↗
cuting of trees especially in a lot of
40:31
↗
our natural areas and that plant
40:32
↗
material is a lot cheaper in the 5 to 10
40:35
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to maybe $15 uh per per tree or per
40:38
↗
plant there um so so just a little more
40:40
↗
context on that kind of cost estimate
40:42
↗
but yes that that is for essentially
40:44
↗
installation and plant material there's
40:47
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still a maintenance cost associated with
40:48
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that as well that is not as directly
40:50
↗
reflected in there whether that's you
40:51
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know the watering pruning things that
40:53
↗
trees need you know young young ages and
40:56
↗
then certainly as mature to um to your
40:59
↗
question on the funding sources yes and
41:01
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that's that's a difficult one there's
41:03
↗
certainly some really good urban
41:04
↗
forestry programs there's a lot more
41:06
↗
that state and the federal government
41:07
↗
are are kind of pumping into those type
41:09
↗
of programs so I do believe there are so
41:11
↗
yes they're taxpayer but not necessarily
41:13
↗
coming out of isqua's general fund or
41:15
↗
isqua's tax base so um like for instance
41:19
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our tree inventory is something we're
41:20
↗
hoping to fund by the States dnrs
41:22
↗
Department of Natural Resources urban
41:23
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forestry program there's some programs
41:26
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through as well and then stuff that's
41:28
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kind of coming through EPA for urban
41:30
↗
forry but that's that's stuff we do need
41:32
↗
to strategize and kind of
41:35
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Rel so I had a suggestion on that um you
41:39
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know if there is a deficit to be matched
41:42
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um and I don't know if that's
41:43
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necessarily a question for that it could
41:45
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be for Stacy or it may be a interde
41:48
↗
departmental for the city but the new
41:51
↗
developments and I don't know this the
41:52
↗
new developments which are coming up um
41:55
↗
because usually they will do they have a
41:57
↗
requirement of you some green areas or
42:00
↗
plantings or green belts maintenance
42:02
↗
going forward because of the climate
42:04
↗
initiatives and um so I'm wondering if
42:07
↗
some part of that you know that planting
42:11
↗
cost could be over especially over 10
42:13
↗
years or long-term goals could be
42:16
↗
transferred to the new D either as a
42:19
↗
part of the investment in you know your
42:23
↗
climate initiatives or or as a part of
42:26
↗
incentive for um you know doing a green
42:30
↗
development split City and they get some
42:32
↗
perks because they're doing a green
42:34
↗
development so that is something to
42:36
↗
consider or look for because I know some
42:39
↗
of the especially with the lead you know
42:42
↗
um your lead certifications lot of
42:45
↗
buildings want to do more of the green
42:48
↗
planting areas and stuff like that so I
42:51
↗
don't know that is something under
42:52
↗
consideration but that could be
42:54
↗
something which will be checked
42:58
↗
thank you and Don Keith is not showing
43:01
↗
up here but Keith does have his hand
43:03
↗
raised okay I'll get to you after I get
43:07
↗
to the table here Jamie thanks Don um
43:11
↗
one question like it would be Chris
43:15
↗
touched on that we've added I think like
43:17
↗
480 Acres or
43:19
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some amount of tree canopy in the last
43:23
↗
whatever the time period I think it was
43:25
↗
2011 years yeah it would be great one of
43:28
↗
the things I didn't really get from
43:30
↗
reading through was kind of one any
43:33
↗
learnings from that that we would be
43:35
↗
applying to what we're going to do going
43:36
↗
forward because that seems like a fairly
43:38
↗
good increase in canopy and two kind of
43:40
↗
best practices are like and this might
43:43
↗
not end up in the final plan but I just
43:44
↗
don't remember having heard like what we
43:47
↗
see from neighboring jurisdictions that
43:48
↗
has really worked and I'm sure Don
43:50
↗
probably has a bunch of ideas from from
43:52
↗
Bell but like that's something that I'd
43:54
↗
be curious like best practices around
43:57
↗
Forest management that we've and I'm
43:59
↗
sure Chris and I'm sure that's all
44:01
↗
coming in but I'm curious on the like
44:03
↗
where what's our kind of what are the
44:05
↗
parallels what are the cities we're
44:06
↗
looking at that are kind of our peer
44:08
↗
group that we want to really aspire to
44:10
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be like
44:12
↗
so just something that uh that maybe is
44:15
↗
context for the forest management plan
44:18
↗
maybe it's not in the actual plan but
44:20
↗
something that might be help fer one
44:22
↗
question I had
44:24
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was I noticed that the park board was
44:26
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going to be one making the final
44:28
↗
recommendation on this is is this going
44:31
↗
to be a plan that they're most closely
44:33
↗
tied to I guess I'm surprised that this
44:35
↗
wouldn't be an environmental board like
44:37
↗
topic area that's that's a good question
44:40
↗
I mean I I I think it's somewhat based
44:42
↗
on my position my role being based in
44:45
↗
Parks the fact that you know over our
44:47
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public land, 1500 plus acres as part of
44:50
↗
parks and Open Spaces Parks does manage
44:53
↗
not that the park board necessarily
44:54
↗
touches on it much but parks manag is a
44:58
↗
pretty good majority of rways and trees
45:00
↗
in the built environment to I mean I
45:02
↗
should say it's a pretty healthy mix
45:03
↗
between parks and public works but it's
45:05
↗
part of um part of parks responsibility
45:07
↗
too so that's sort of what I've been
45:10
↗
following by leadership but you know if
45:12
↗
that's something that we can talk about
45:15
↗
or I don't want to mess up schedules too
45:17
↗
much but if that's something that
45:18
↗
September we're able to bring both those
45:20
↗
boards together again um for for
45:23
↗
recommendations on the second draft I
45:24
↗
mean that's something we're certainly
45:25
↗
open to so yeah and I'm I think that
45:28
↗
that's one topic I think the ongoing
45:30
↗
piece because I think it sends a kind of
45:33
↗
a strange me like Parks Board they like
45:36
↗
their knowledge and what they focus on
45:38
↗
most of parks and some of parks is green
45:41
↗
space but they're not really they're
45:43
↗
also talking about fields and things
45:45
↗
that are explicitly not canopy so I just
45:48
↗
think it's it would be kind of uh it
45:51
↗
would be strange especially because so
45:52
↗
much of this is tied to the the IAP and
45:54
↗
the canopy goals as well as wild life it
45:57
↗
just seems like a weird mix that uh and
46:01
↗
I'm I think the short term is one thing
46:02
↗
but the ongoing like this is just
46:05
↗
something a topic that I feel like this
46:06
↗
board should be really engaged upon and
46:08
↗
so not plus we get to see Dan more so I
46:12
↗
think I just think that's something that
46:15
↗
Stacy and Dan I would just ask you guys
46:17
↗
to go and ask that question is is it
46:19
↗
really right that probably is based on
46:21
↗
reporting is that the right is that the
46:24
↗
right answer for how this should work um
46:26
↗
and then I had a question similar to
46:28
↗
prage which uh around like the
46:31
↗
definition of canopy um because I think
46:34
↗
it's one point it said that canopy
46:37
↗
doesn't typically count until five to 10
46:39
↗
years from planting is that yeah that's
46:42
↗
14 foot requirement yeah a lot of trains
46:44
↗
we plant today and so is our 50 55% goal
46:49
↗
everything needs to be above that height
46:50
↗
because I guess I'm thinking back 10
46:52
↗
years from 2035 is next year which
46:55
↗
implies that we basically to have all
46:57
↗
the trees in the ground that we would
46:58
↗
need so that's why I'm trying to like I
47:00
↗
understand we're getting the trees in
47:01
↗
the ground with this plan but it doesn't
47:03
↗
actually hit timeline to that I'm just
47:06
↗
curious on yeah so Chris can clarify but
47:08
↗
my understanding is part of the reason
47:09
↗
we modeled that using caliper trees or
47:11
↗
kind of larger what we kind of often
47:13
↗
refer to as Street trees you know those
47:15
↗
are often six seven even eight feet to
47:17
↗
start so those can achieve that canopy
47:20
↗
status a lot quicker than you know some
47:21
↗
of the be rout or one or two gallon
47:23
↗
trees that we plant you know on Creek in
47:25
↗
places like this um so that five to 10
47:28
↗
years is is is a rough estimate but yes
47:30
↗
to your point I mean it does get to a
47:32
↗
point you know trees are planting in
47:33
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probably 20 31 2 3 four five are not
47:37
↗
going to be contributing to that but a
47:39
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lot of what I believe is modeled you
47:41
↗
know based on the square footage of
47:43
↗
large medium you know kind of these
47:44
↗
General buckets of size of trees is with
47:47
↗
the anticipation that those are growing
47:49
↗
and and you know contributing to that
47:50
↗
Target plus you know some of the stuff
47:52
↗
that we've already obviously planted in
47:53
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the last five or so years 10 years have
47:55
↗
not yet
47:58
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yeah I'm just curious yeah no and I'm
48:01
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just curious if I think we're we're
48:03
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saying in the plan that we have a plan
48:05
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to get to the the 50F perc I'm not
48:08
↗
actually and maybe someone's run the
48:09
↗
numbers on this but it seems like we
48:11
↗
might not actually be able to get there
48:13
↗
even with that if we hit that plan we
48:15
↗
might not it is ambitious I don't want I
48:18
↗
don't want to say we we can't but I mean
48:20
↗
there's considerations around cost
48:22
↗
feasibility time frames um and then
48:24
↗
certainly other other factors relates to
48:26
↗
in which we touch on the plan Wildfire
48:28
↗
preparedness you know defensible space
48:30
↗
things that the State Bowling code is
48:31
↗
working on and could have some big
48:33
↗
implication implications on development
48:36
↗
and Redevelopment as CL the near future
48:39
↗
here
48:40
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yeah okay and then I had just two other
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points one um I I I know some of the
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current conditions started to touch on
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like what the planable area and just
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kind of the what what within right
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paring areas and other kind of high
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important area like critical areas not
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otherwise like that was a part of the
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current conditions I didn't see that as
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heavily and I know it's draft but a lot
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of the goals and strategies that like we
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have the 55% goal we don't and we talk
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about priority areas priority areas is
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never defined that's probably something
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I'm assuming will happen at some point
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but to me Priority areas are things like
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riparian areas the the things that are
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going to really critically like impact
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areas that there's lots of wildlife
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biodiversity that to me that that didn't
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come through in the current goals and
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and strategies so I that that's
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something I think really needs to be and
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I I do want to make sure like we talk a
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lot about tree equity which I understand
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but at the same time I think we need to
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be thinking as well about where is it
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going to have the most kind of habitat
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value where where is canopy gonna like
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around uh streams where it's going to be
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reducing water temperatures those are
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considerations that I feel like are
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getting maybe shoved aside a little bit
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I think should be a really important
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consideration that we have to consider
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all the other things but that just feels
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like it's not as Central as as maybe it
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should be within what is drafted within
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what's there that's really good feedback
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and I would say that was certainly the
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impetus of why we wanted to include a
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riparian subset to the tree canopy
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analysis essentially establish a
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baseline with most of these analysis you
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know you are doing current data which
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once again there's a lag of the lar
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being available and the high resolution
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to you know so essentially everything
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we're talking about yes is 2,000 to
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2021 um for ripering we Ed 2017 as a
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baseline year since we already had a lot
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of the um that's you know what we use
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for the original tree canopy assessment
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um but yes I I I agree that I think
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that's something Chris we we can and
50:41
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should chat about you know are we
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setting you know goals around riper and
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canopy obviously we have recommendations
50:48
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continue to track that but to to what
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end I think yeah because what I would I
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would hate to see happen if like it's
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only looking at neighborhood level where
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only trying to prioritize in the
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neighborhoods but we're not looking at
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where is there actually high value like
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I think that's one of the things that um
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I forget the the sewer M master plan or
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where they were focusing on critical
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areas where they were going to try to
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get um septic migrated to sewer like
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that I thought was a great way like a
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great parallel here of like how do we
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make sure that the highest value areas
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that we can get canopy for the
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environment for FL and Fa that that was
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going to happen um and then
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the oh one thing that Tom I think
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brought up last meeting last time this
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came through that I didn't see mentioned
51:33
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was how to drisk planting trees for
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developers and Commercial like people
51:39
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that are are larger land owners um
51:42
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because they might see it as a as a as
51:45
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something they if they once they plant
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it they could never develop that space
51:47
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or they decreasing the value of their
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land so that's something that um it
51:52
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seems like there might be opportunity
51:54
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there to to evaluate and talk to some
51:56
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business owners talk to some large
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landhold holders that are that have
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commercial properties to see if that is
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a a concern um because I think that that
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would be a huge if there's something and
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I don't know what the right mechanism is
52:08
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but if there's a way to help drisk
52:10
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planting trees if they're seeing that as
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a as a barrier because they think it's a
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potential something they can't come back
52:17
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from and that they would devalue their
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land that I think is is a a big
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potential upside and then the last
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thing is um I
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I know we talk about tree selection one
52:29
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of the things that Dan you will know
52:31
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this a thousand times better than anyone
52:32
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in this room but I think that there is a
52:35
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correlation between conifers having
52:38
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better whole better ability to keep out
52:41
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invasives
52:42
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especially than deciduous and so I I do
52:45
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think that in some of our areas we may
52:47
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that's something to consider is like
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long-term habitat kind of sustainability
52:52
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or ability to repel um invasives and and
52:57
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you would know that better that's
52:58
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something I think isn't mentioned that
52:59
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maybe should be mentioned or considered
53:02
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in the selection of
53:04
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TRS Jamie we have about 10 minutes
53:07
↗
discussion left so Jonathan just make
53:10
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this quick I'm just kind of curious on
53:12
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how this how this will works you're
53:14
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going to take this plan to the council
53:15
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this fall um are you requesting a budget
53:20
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this fall no the the main budget item
53:22
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that we have request that process is
53:24
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already underway we did have the first
53:26
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touch point with the the SSP we can just
53:28
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spell that out the Safety Services and
53:30
↗
park subcommittee of our Council um just
53:33
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a few weeks ago uh is is for a train
53:35
↗
inventory and we're hoping to be able to
53:38
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fund most of that with Grant funds but
53:40
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that that's the main item we're putting
53:42
↗
in there will be need to be
53:43
↗
conversations on um getting creative
53:47
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around finances for some of these other
53:48
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kind of short-term goals so will you
53:50
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have a a commitment are you reaching
53:54
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trying to get a commitment for a 10-year
53:55
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plan or is it going to be something that
53:57
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needs to be taken to the board the
54:00
↗
council every every year for that's a
54:03
↗
good question and I mean that's the type
54:04
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of feedback that we'd love to hear I
54:05
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mean I think we are looking at
54:07
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commitment for a 10-year plan but is
54:08
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there a you know kind of fiveyear audit
54:10
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we want to look at or you know kind of
54:11
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one of the intervals we talked about
54:12
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intervals for some of the metric updates
54:15
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like the Urban Tree canopy once we have
54:16
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a tree inventory there's recommendations
54:18
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around how often you're trying to update
54:20
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some of that data as it relates to
54:21
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individual trees but um that's a really
54:25
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good question yeah
54:26
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I was not the impression we' be taking
54:28
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it for like re-approval every year or
54:30
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two years but essentially trying to
54:32
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revisit progress as Chris kind of talked
54:34
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about adaptive management possibly you
54:36
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know shifting goals and approaches as
54:38
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needed based on you know current
54:39
↗
conditions and then new data and stuff
54:41
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like that but um you know I think it
54:43
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would follow a little bit like IAP you
54:45
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know there's you all just went through
54:46
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kind of the mid mid fiveyear right um
54:48
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kind of review so I could see there
54:50
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being a similar process to that you you
54:52
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do see a lot of cities that have been
54:53
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developing these plans a little bit
54:54
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longer you know doing their 10 updates
54:56
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already so I mean I think that would be
54:58
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the next major update so if this gets
55:01
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approved will you have any budget to
55:04
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start planting trees next year some but
55:07
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maybe not as much as we um hope or need
55:11
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to reach some of those G scenarios
55:14
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around the 55% goal that's just kind of
55:16
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the reality of what I've heard from some
55:17
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of our leadership but without getting
55:19
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too much into you'll have to work to get
55:22
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some grants go into grant search mode
55:26
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yeah and we already are kind of starting
55:27
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that like said around the tree inventory
55:29
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around plant material we do have our
55:31
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tree fund which we're going to try to
55:32
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better utilize which was essentially
55:34
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developers paying into that when they
55:35
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can't meet tree canopy retention or
55:37
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planting requirements so but yeah it's
55:40
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it's it's it's limited in terms of
55:42
↗
meeting that that specific 55% goal with
55:45
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the projection there but it's not to say
55:46
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we don't have anything or there AR to
55:49
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about
55:50
↗
that it just seems like you need to
55:52
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start planting trees today or as soon as
55:55
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this gets appr to meet
55:59
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55% all
56:03
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right uh so 16,000 trees planted and
56:08
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11,000 and something city Le planting do
56:12
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you have the next next level of
56:14
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breakdown of like where are you going to
56:15
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squeeze all those in is that part of the
56:18
↗
plan or is that left as an
56:19
↗
implementation detail that's a bit more
56:22
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of an implementation detail but Chris
56:24
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anything you want to add on that
56:26
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yeah thank you um and I did also want to
56:29
↗
note that uh Keith Gonzalez had a
56:31
↗
question so um but I I just want to
56:34
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provide a visual this is um from an
56:36
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earlier assessment through King County
56:38
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but here we're looking at isqua and so
56:40
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this just gives a visual of some of the
56:43
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priorities um and what we're
56:45
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incorporating in the implementation uh
56:47
↗
section of the plan is a tiered approach
56:50
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you have the Citywide possibly the
56:52
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neighborhoods and planning sub areas
56:54
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drilling down to different themes uh
56:57
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like you know shade over reparan
56:59
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corridors looking at connectivity that
57:01
↗
we heard Wildlife biodiversity storm
57:05
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water management and then um using these
57:08
↗
data sets to look at more localized um
57:11
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priority areas and these will be Maps as
57:14
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well as uh GIS files to for the city to
57:17
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utilize overlay with other um shape
57:21
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files other layers to really see where
57:23
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the conflicts are and where those
57:25
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opportunities will be um so yeah there
57:28
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is another step to this when we finalize
57:30
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the long-term framework is those um
57:32
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supporting studies and the
57:35
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implementation aspect and on the side of
57:38
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cost we will be providing an extensive
57:40
↗
analysis and summary of funding
57:43
↗
mechanisms um from the local level all
57:46
↗
the way through to some of the examples
57:48
↗
Dan shared at the state and federal
57:49
↗
level um because that is going to be a
57:52
↗
challenge and then lastly just wanted to
57:53
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mention um it is a escaping me now the
57:57
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planting per per year is an average we
58:00
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know that cities need to scale up
58:02
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efforts and then keeping in mind that
58:04
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those lower cost items like the live
58:07
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Stakes seedlings and and other uh means
58:10
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not just large caliper trees so a lot
58:13
↗
more that we can um share but hopefully
58:15
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that helps with the implementation
58:18
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question that was asked about like more
58:20
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of a localized more granular level or a
58:23
↗
granular level of priority area
58:27
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um so I'll I'll get this um online GIS
58:30
↗
GIS map off your screen but that was
58:33
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hopefully to provide a visual that there
58:35
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are a lot of factors that will go into
58:37
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uh priority areas okay well I did I have
58:40
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kind of a follow on that relates to that
58:42
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now I know that detail we're not going
58:44
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to get to but there's a particular
58:46
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property that's close to where I live
58:48
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that I'll just use as an example the
58:50
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former hope property on Front Street
58:52
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South uh you know the city is owned it
58:55
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for like 10 years or so and and the city
58:57
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is gradually turning it into a
58:59
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Blackberry Farm well okay by default
59:03
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because that's what happens all right so
59:04
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there's a perfect example of a city city
59:07
↗
held piece of property which could be
59:10
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enhanced with some tree planting on it
59:12
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so I would hope that that would be
59:14
↗
silver on the list of of areas to plant
59:17
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but it then leads me to another point
59:21
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that okay maybe there needs to be a new
59:25
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little step somewhere in the process of
59:27
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City acquisition of land a tree canopy
59:32
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evaluation when the property is
59:34
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evaluated that would trigger a step of
59:38
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well hey yeah we have an opportunity
59:40
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here and we should uh do some planning
59:43
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so that's kind of a separate process
59:45
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from this overall Urban Forest
59:48
↗
management plan but it would help
59:51
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address situations like that where okay
59:53
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we've acquired this parcel and rather
59:56
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than just sitting there doing nothing
59:58
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with it must take this opportunity to
1:00:00
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trigger that step to cause a some tree
1:00:04
↗
planting in the near term rather than
1:00:07
↗
many years later so that's one
1:00:10
↗
suggestion uh my next question is uh how
1:00:14
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this is going to how ladder fuel
1:00:17
↗
reduction will factor into uh this plant
1:00:21
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or is that do you envision that as
1:00:23
↗
something we're we're not mat sure
1:00:26
↗
enough in our tree planning to start
1:00:28
↗
talking about that and we'll we'll do
1:00:31
↗
that as a as a subsequent step or I
1:00:34
↗
think that's part of the Adaptive
1:00:35
↗
management essentially we're referring
1:00:37
↗
in here to this plan to some of the
1:00:39
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State Building Code updates that have
1:00:41
↗
been proposed and and and subsequently
1:00:43
↗
delayed a bit in terms of defining that
1:00:45
↗
Wildland Urban interface if you saw the
1:00:47
↗
first map that came out for that that
1:00:48
↗
DNR put together kind of for a different
1:00:51
↗
intention but then got used for
1:00:52
↗
defensible space it's it's essentially
1:00:54
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all of as a so I mean it's theoretical
1:00:57
↗
if that were to be followed that you
1:00:58
↗
know 10 to 10 feet to 30 feet from
1:01:01
↗
buildings we're just not going to have
1:01:02
↗
tree branches or trees so that that
1:01:04
↗
would be pretty Monumental if that sort
1:01:07
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of happens but I think you know part of
1:01:09
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the delay in my understanding we're
1:01:10
↗
working a lot with Jared Schneider who's
1:01:11
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the city's emergency response manager
1:01:13
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he's really the one tracking a lot of
1:01:15
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this um is is to just you know have a
1:01:17
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have a better understanding of uh you
1:01:19
↗
know when those things are phasing what
1:01:21
↗
they look like but I think right now
1:01:22
↗
they're really trying to better
1:01:23
↗
fine-tune that map of Wildland Urban
1:01:25
↗
base certainly a lot of parts of the
1:01:26
↗
city that that should and will qualify
1:01:29
↗
but then some of the cor spots whether
1:01:30
↗
we need to have that stric of defensible
1:01:32
↗
space standards a lot of that is at the
1:01:34
↗
state level and not necessarily City
1:01:35
↗
decisions we're really tracking that at
1:01:37
↗
this point so you know I mean if we run
1:01:39
↗
really gungho on the ladder fuel
1:01:41
↗
reduction you completely erase whatever
1:01:44
↗
gains no It's
1:01:47
↗
Tricky um and as soon as we have a
1:01:51
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wildfire somewhere on the slopes of
1:01:53
↗
squawk or tiger it's going to be the
1:01:55
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most important thing suddenly but um
1:01:59
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it's it's a factor that I worry about
1:02:03
↗
anyway and we're gonna have to find a
1:02:05
↗
way to balance that
1:02:06
↗
out uh that's all I got thank you Tom I
1:02:10
↗
do want to recognize our last two
1:02:12
↗
comments so Karan and then Keith and
1:02:14
↗
then we're gonna end this okay hi so uh
1:02:17
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during the survey uh very large
1:02:20
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percentage of the survey respondents
1:02:21
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were over the age of 35 so I was
1:02:23
↗
wondering if there was any intention on
1:02:24
↗
doing any altering the surveys to get
1:02:27
↗
younger audiences opinions yeah that's a
1:02:31
↗
good question we did try to meet with
1:02:33
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some groups we you know we we brought
1:02:35
↗
this to ISA garage and kind of got
1:02:37
↗
feedback that way I'm not sure how many
1:02:38
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of them actually submitted the survey
1:02:39
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but we had a kind of focus group there
1:02:41
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of about five to 10 um High School age
1:02:44
↗
students as part of the the team garage
1:02:47
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there we did a lot of work with Gibson
1:02:49
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and actually one of your um current
1:02:51
↗
members who's not here Min Jun was an
1:02:54
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intern with the urban forestry program
1:02:55
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with other gib's next students so we we
1:02:57
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did try to bring this to them both in
1:03:00
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kind of conversation presentations and
1:03:02
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also tried to kind of share the survey I
1:03:03
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don't know how successful like said it
1:03:04
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was getting survey result we we did try
1:03:06
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to kind of tap into a few kind of youth
1:03:09
↗
group connections we had but I will
1:03:12
↗
admit that was an area that was probably
1:03:13
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a bit
1:03:15
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lacking that's all thank
1:03:18
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you all right
1:03:20
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please yeah thanks um I just had a
1:03:23
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question about the forest service
1:03:24
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standards that you brought up as a kind
1:03:27
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of a metric to grade the the program on
1:03:29
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um I was sorry if I missed it is is that
1:03:33
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um kind of a real Guiding Light for the
1:03:35
↗
program or is it just a helpful
1:03:36
↗
Benchmark I was wondering if there's any
1:03:38
↗
mechanisms for accountability to
1:03:41
↗
that yeah I'll take the question Dan if
1:03:43
↗
that's all right that's great yeah so um
1:03:47
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it more to the latter it's a um
1:03:50
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supporting evaluation in what we're um
1:03:54
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recommending in the plan
1:03:56
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uh so we first go through all of the
1:03:58
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other processes of developing the plan
1:04:01
↗
the planning processes and Gathering
1:04:03
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those inputs and then summarizing each
1:04:06
↗
of those along the way and we start to
1:04:08
↗
see these Trends and commonalities along
1:04:10
↗
each planning element whether it be uh
1:04:13
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more inclusive or uh more encompassing
1:04:16
↗
engagement whether it be best practices
1:04:19
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for maintenance and management um you
1:04:21
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know better planting protocols and
1:04:23
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post-planting Care those things start to
1:04:26
↗
rise above to the surface um and then
1:04:29
↗
when we do those audits those
1:04:30
↗
evaluations that's kind of a gut check
1:04:33
↗
to see did we miss anything and through
1:04:35
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that qualitative assessment see like
1:04:38
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whoa this this category is very low
1:04:40
↗
where are we addressing that with what
1:04:42
↗
we've heard and how the strategies are
1:04:44
↗
being shaped so um that is yeah it's a
1:04:47
↗
supporting tool it's uh based on
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initially back in 1997 a model of urban
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Forest sustainability where we have
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those Cate ories of the trees the
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management the people and then in 2011
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it was adapted to the criteria and
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indicators of sustainable urban forestry
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and so now today 2024 we've modified and
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adapted and updated those audits to be
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more specific and relevant to urban
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forestry today so it's um evolving and
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the last thing I'll mention is that it
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we are working it into the monitoring
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aspect of the plan because you know if
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you document your methodology for
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scoring from low moderate to good on
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that table that I shared then as a team
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like the city which is really cool to
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see has the tree team across multiple
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departments as you all convene maybe
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that's the group plus these boards and
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say where are we at now and well this is
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low but I think we're at moderate and
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have that discussion it's a learning
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opportunity update that score and now
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that's a progress report that you can
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share with the public and interested
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parties so um a long-winded answer but
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that really is a the heart of Planet
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gu's planning process so I'm glad you
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asked that
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Keith thank you Chris um I have several
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comments for you but for the sake of
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time I will email you those although one
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point um that we should mention is
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there's been comment both by the public
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and I think you heard it at our last
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meeting here about the importance of the
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under story and the next is the overall
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Forest um I'd like to see more emphasis
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on that along with the Forest Edge on
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how that plays
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in thank you and so next steps for the
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board I will send out a reminder but
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we're looking for any written feedback
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by the evening of the 2 and then we'll
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be compiling that into a letter to send
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out for review and approval uh with
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submission to Dan on
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the is that same letter going to go to
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council or is that that will go to the
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park board and then will be included in
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packet St Council or the council
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committee thanks
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everyone thank you all for your time
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take
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care with that we'll roll right into our
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next topic and we're talking about the
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the draft comprehensive plan uh
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Stephen's here to talk to us about it
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tonight there's a memo that you were
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given in your
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packet we're going to be reviewing the
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memo just general memo and then there's
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an attachment that Stephen created for
1:07:36
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us that gets into more of the details
1:07:40
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Stacy if you want to start stop yeah so
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um the way we are planning to approach
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this tonight is first um Don and I were
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going to talk through some of the major
1:07:52
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themes that we heard from the board on
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the non- environment Element Section so
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we're going to focus there first and we
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want to make sure that we're accurately
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capturing um high level summary and
1:08:06
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those themes and then we were going to
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move into the environment element and
1:08:10
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walk through those comments one by one
1:08:13
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first starting with those that David and
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I thought might be best move to a um
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conversation when we start updating the
1:08:23
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IAP Al that's part disc s and then we
1:08:26
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would move through the other ones to get
1:08:28
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agreement from the board on what changes
1:08:31
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you want to see now in the
1:08:33
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environment so bit of a three-part
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discussion first non- environment
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element make sure we're summarizing
1:08:41
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correctly and then move into the
1:08:43
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environment element that we'll divide
1:08:45
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into two two sections of
1:08:49
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conversation that work for folks this is
1:08:52
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a little complicated so we've been
1:08:54
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trying to figure out the best way to
1:08:56
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present all
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this and this is blurry for the group
1:09:03
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Stephen are you you're on with
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us great all right so Stephen's here to
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help answer
1:09:17
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questions okay um well first I did want
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to just say thank you very much I know
1:09:23
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board memb spent a lot of time reviewing
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the document provided some really great
1:09:27
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feedback and staff have gone through all
1:09:29
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that feedback we want to make sure we're
1:09:31
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accurately
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reflecting um that feedback as uh the
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comprehensive plan is going to the
1:09:39
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planning policy commission as well as to
1:09:41
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the council later this
1:09:44
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fall um so we'll just walk through maybe
1:09:49
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a a summary of what we captured from the
1:09:51
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board's feedback Don do you want me to
1:09:54
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do that or do you want to you
1:09:56
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can walk through it by element like we
1:09:59
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discussed yeah can you put that document
1:10:04
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screen
1:10:14
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sure so the overall themes we heard um
1:10:17
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from the board on the land use element
1:10:19
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where sustainability Focus um having the
1:10:23
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comp plan being truly sustainable
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towards the natural environment CLE
1:10:28
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defining productive capacity of high
1:10:30
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quality natural areas and considering if
1:10:33
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this should fully focus on land use or
1:10:36
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integrated
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elsewhere policy clar Clarity and
1:10:41
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integration terminology and policy focus
1:10:44
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with land use section need view to avoid
1:10:46
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conflicts ensure alignment
1:10:48
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sustainability goals language train
1:10:50
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management Wildlife cohabitation and R
1:10:53
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water capture development strategies
1:10:56
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exploring diverse strategies for
1:10:58
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increasing NE density Beyond cluster
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housing assess policies on bability and
1:11:03
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Equity to ensure they align with the
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broader development gos neighborhood
1:11:08
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standards updating the standards to
1:11:10
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support effective density increases
1:11:12
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neighborhoods while maintaining
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environmental
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considerations wildlife and habitat
1:11:17
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inclusion ensuring wildli habitat
1:11:19
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policies are integrated throughout the
1:11:21
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relevant areas these are the The General
1:11:25
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themes that we plan to include in the
1:11:27
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letter that goes forward I read them
1:11:29
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because it's very hard to read up there
1:11:32
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so if they're these are
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accurate I think we can agree that this
1:11:37
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will be in our letter that's going to
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our to the just going to the PPC and
1:11:45
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subsequently to council committees now
1:11:48
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grade Out Below that are details around
1:11:52
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the land use element and those have been
1:11:54
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provided to stepen and he's he's looking
1:11:56
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at those in a much larger table with
1:11:58
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some other comments but I don't know
1:12:02
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that we want to put that in the letter
1:12:04
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in this letter in this level of detail
1:12:07
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we talked about last night Stephen and
1:12:10
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Stacy and I met was to have the general
1:12:13
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themes in our letter and then provide
1:12:16
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Stephen with the details and he can put
1:12:17
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them into his appendix it's a
1:12:20
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spreadsheet we can look at that as well
1:12:22
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if we like so have we captured your
1:12:25
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general concerns on the land
1:12:28
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use I'm GNA express my concerns about
1:12:31
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that approach okay and the reason I do
1:12:33
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that is most of the comments we provided
1:12:37
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to um Stephen were no change we received
1:12:41
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a response of no change and many of us
1:12:44
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took the time to try and put those
1:12:46
↗
comments down and it's important that
1:12:48
↗
PPC sees those in their entirety from
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this board because that's what we're
1:12:52
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asked to do as say the council so
1:12:55
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putting those into just the table that
1:12:57
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Stephen responds to to me is not a
1:12:59
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complete you can attach it as a separate
1:13:02
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thing that's not as highlighted but I
1:13:05
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would really um prefer propose that we
1:13:09
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continue to provide
1:13:12
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those Stephen would you like to speak to
1:13:17
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that if the board would like to provide
1:13:19
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the full table we can uh we just wanted
1:13:21
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to make sure we had the full discussion
1:13:23
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with the board on everything and
1:13:25
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separate out what goes in the letter
1:13:27
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from this more specific
1:13:32
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comments how do you plan to present your
1:13:36
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spreadsheet Stephen with all the
1:13:38
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specific
1:13:39
↗
comments the if the spreadsheet gets
1:13:42
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added to get what gets sent to the
1:13:44
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planning policy commission it would be
1:13:46
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attachment to the
1:13:53
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ladder what would the board like to
1:13:56
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see for suggestions
1:13:59
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for I would like to see them included in
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the I think we did a lot of work on this
1:14:04
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we spent a lot of time on this as a
1:14:07
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board I think it's important that we
1:14:09
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express
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our well so maybe I just make sure I
1:14:21
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understand what we're saying here like
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item U talks about making sure we
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maintain
1:14:29
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walkability is that the entire Express
1:14:33
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expressing what we captured in the more
1:14:35
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detailed table including things about
1:14:38
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improving multi botal Transportation
1:14:41
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walkability isn't isn't that it's more
1:14:44
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than that so if that is the distilling
1:14:47
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of that I'd say we we've lost too much
1:14:49
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information in that
1:14:53
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transformation so it needs to be either
1:14:55
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more detailed in that presentation or as
1:14:58
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Nancy suggests well here let's let's
1:15:00
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just keep capture all that we have here
1:15:03
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and then uh that can be f for that
1:15:07
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analysis by whoever but I I feel there
1:15:11
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has been some loss of
1:15:17
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information so Nancy in your proposal is
1:15:20
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is that section on the bottom going to
1:15:23
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be including in that way or is it in
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line I would say it in that way was part
1:15:29
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of you know our comments and feedback on
1:15:32
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it it's another page and a half
1:15:43
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materials oh
1:15:45
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um so I was I was more question I was
1:15:49
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just curious how I mean I think I I
1:15:51
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would support including it as long I do
1:15:54
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think that if
1:15:56
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we should make clear like if they're
1:15:57
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only going to read one part of it what
1:15:59
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do we want to make sure that we get
1:16:00
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across and so I do think alignment on
1:16:03
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those top five is still important but um
1:16:07
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but showing our work is is great as well
1:16:09
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to detail
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that um I'm going to propose we take a
1:16:17
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quick
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vote just so we have it
1:16:22
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captured so
1:16:26
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I'm going to make a motion we vote on
1:16:29
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keeping it in the format as is or
1:16:32
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reducing it down to just the general
1:16:36
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themes
1:16:39
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second I'll
1:16:41
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second um so for all of those that would
1:16:44
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like to see the letter kept with all the
1:16:46
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details so pretty much as is as it reads
1:16:49
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there
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um please give me a
1:16:55
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sign
1:17:00
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up like we
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have
1:17:03
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St I think our desire is to keep the
1:17:06
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letter as is with the details in it know
1:17:09
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that's not quite what we discussed last
1:17:11
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night but I do believe after hearing
1:17:13
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mancy and other comments of the board
1:17:15
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that's the intent that board is
1:17:21
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looking Sten any um concerns with that
1:17:25
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anything else we can do to package this
1:17:27
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for PPC that would be helpful as staff
1:17:30
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meet with
1:17:32
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them I think what I might do is um if
1:17:36
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the preference from the board is to keep
1:17:37
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all the detail with the themes is is
1:17:39
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that what's been was voted on is keep
1:17:42
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the themes and the detail so keep the
1:17:46
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lettered yeah then then to also provide
1:17:49
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PPC with the same Matrix that we
1:17:51
↗
provided the board as
1:17:53
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well and that would be be the attachment
1:17:55
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to the
1:17:59
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letter so the letter would read as is
1:18:02
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plus the
1:18:03
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attachment
1:18:11
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correct any other comments on
1:18:14
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that I think we can drop down to the
1:18:16
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environmental element or we're going
1:18:17
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have the majority of our discussion
1:18:20
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great yeah I think what we were going to
1:18:22
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do um for the other conversation was
1:18:24
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move through the themes the rest of the
1:18:26
↗
themes in the document um I don't think
1:18:29
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we need to do that now since we're going
1:18:31
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to include the level of detail um what
1:18:35
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we'd like to do is go through the
1:18:37
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details of the environment element and
1:18:39
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where there's things that we can address
1:18:41
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and resolve in the environment element
1:18:43
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our proposals we'd remove those from the
1:18:46
↗
letter because they will be revised um
1:18:49
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in the next
1:18:50
↗
version um and then after we do that
1:18:53
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just want to would like to get the okay
1:18:56
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on this letter tonight if possible um
1:18:59
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because I know Stephen uh would like to
1:19:01
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try and get it to PPC
1:19:03
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tomorrow faster than we had
1:19:07
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originally um so with that what I will
1:19:10
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do is move to a different
1:19:13
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document
1:19:15
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um and as mentioned we'd first like
1:19:21
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to start with the recommendations from
1:19:25
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the board um that staff felt after a
1:19:31
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quick review that we could address as
1:19:33
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part of the next uh update to the
1:19:37
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IAP um and therefore uh not for
1:19:42
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consideration within this version of the
1:19:44
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comp plan but they would be flagged for
1:19:46
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discussion with the board um next year
1:19:49
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when we'd have more time to talk about
1:19:50
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them and incorporating them into the IAB
1:19:53
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and then next we'll move into those that
1:19:56
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we felt like um we should bring for
1:19:58
↗
discussion tonight for immediate edits
1:20:00
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to the environment
1:20:03
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element um so first to start with those
1:20:06
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um we felt could uh or the staff
1:20:09
↗
recommendation is to punt to the 2025
1:20:13
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review of the IAP would be those um that
1:20:16
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were proposed I think John brought some
1:20:18
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really great suggestions for new
1:20:20
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policies um we felt like at this stage
1:20:23
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in the um comprehensive plan um given
1:20:27
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that these wouldn't have a chance for
1:20:29
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more public vetting or vetting by other
1:20:32
↗
boards that we should take our time next
1:20:35
↗
year to really review these and F tune
1:20:37
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them um and do our due diligence to make
1:20:40
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sure they the policies that we want to
1:20:43
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advance so that is the majority of them
1:20:47
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and then uh there was one around
1:20:49
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strengthening a policy around energy use
1:20:53
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patterns again we felt like that um
1:20:56
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would and I can pull up the specific
1:20:58
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policy but that it might be best to wait
1:21:00
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for a more robust discussion on that and
1:21:03
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include as part of the IAP update
1:21:05
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instead of trying to expedite um that
1:21:09
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consideration for this version of the
1:21:11
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comprehensive plan um and I will just
1:21:15
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remind folks if we make updates to the
1:21:17
↗
IAP those would then be reflected in an
1:21:20
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update to the comp plan following
1:21:22
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adoption of the IAP so would eventually
1:21:26
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be and then just the last one um for
1:21:30
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consideration we thought possibly could
1:21:32
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be punted to a IAB update was
1:21:35
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specifically calling out c um under the
1:21:39
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resilience and well-being
1:21:41
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section um sir is uh one of our major
1:21:45
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response mechanisms for emergencies um
1:21:48
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but did feel like it was specific enough
1:21:50
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it might best belong in the
1:21:52
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IAP um so th those are the staff
1:21:54
↗
responses to that group of um
1:21:58
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recommendations that we move those to
1:22:01
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the um consideration of the icap update
1:22:04
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but we're looking for feedback on
1:22:07
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whether you all are okay with that or if
1:22:08
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we want to pull any out for further
1:22:10
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discussion tonight immediate
1:22:12
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consideration and
1:22:15
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then based on what I hear tonight I
1:22:18
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agree I understand where you're going
1:22:20
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with the proposed new we're a little
1:22:22
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late in the game for those to make it
1:22:24
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into to the plan now although I still
1:22:28
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think what I'm hearing from the previous
1:22:30
↗
conversation I think those should be
1:22:32
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mentioned in our letter so that it's
1:22:35
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known that those are out there and that
1:22:37
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we're thinking about them and we could
1:22:40
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just flag that they'll be considered as
1:22:42
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part of the IAP update that be
1:22:51
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acceptable I just had a question so
1:22:53
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Stacy you said
1:22:55
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that once we ad adopted in IAP it's not
1:22:59
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like it's automatically the next that's
1:23:01
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basically the next time the comp plan
1:23:02
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comes around it needs to be updated is
1:23:04
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that is that correct yeah and Stephen
1:23:06
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and I chat about that I think as we'
1:23:09
↗
mentioned to the board our goal is to
1:23:11
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update the IAP by Spring of 26 ahead of
1:23:14
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our next budget cycle and then the comp
1:23:17
↗
plan would be updated by the end of 2026
1:23:20
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is that correct Stephen so there'd be
1:23:22
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couple month like time between that
1:23:24
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update because sorry did you say the
1:23:26
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timing again the IAP would be updated by
1:23:29
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Spring 2026 is our goal and then the
1:23:31
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comp plan goes through
1:23:33
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annual Refreshers um or minor updates
1:23:38
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and so um we could include some
1:23:41
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revisions into the comp plan by the end
1:23:43
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of
1:23:44
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2026 is that Stephen jump in if I'm no
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that's correct um for the comens plan we
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basically have an annual review process
1:23:52
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for if there's updates to other
1:23:55
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functional plans so like the IAP going
1:23:57
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through its update and planning to get
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that done by early 2026 it'll
1:24:02
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essentially just get rolled into the
1:24:04
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2026 comp plan updates which would
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probably be done by the end of the
1:24:08
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year Well I support the direction on
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this the only thing I would say is if
1:24:13
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there's anything that we feel like is
1:24:14
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sending us in the wrong direction before
1:24:16
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then which I'm I don't know all the
1:24:18
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detail of these but that would be the
1:24:20
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one thing that we should talk about but
1:24:22
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I don't know that exists
1:24:25
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sending in the wrong direction oh like
1:24:27
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if what the current comp plan says is
1:24:29
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sending us in the wrong direction
1:24:30
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relative to what we think the next
1:24:32
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update will be that would be something
1:24:34
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that we should be talking about and I
1:24:35
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didn't have time since this was sent out
1:24:38
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so I'm not sure what's in this section
1:24:41
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but that that if there's anything that
1:24:43
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anyone feels like falls into that
1:24:45
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category that is something I think we
1:24:47
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should talk
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about yeah so I think what we have
1:24:55
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proposed on the table is all the new the
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new proposed policies would remain in
1:25:01
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the letter we will note for
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PPC that those will be considered as
1:25:07
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part of the next IAP update but we'll
1:25:09
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retain them in the letter just to make
1:25:11
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sure they're not
1:25:18
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lost lost key
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okay oh no we do still have Keith I
1:25:29
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don't know why Keith we can't you're not
1:25:31
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showing up on our screen I'm going try
1:25:32
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spell at
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you um Keith are you can you hear me yes
1:25:38
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no we got you it's just our screen being
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weird tonight um are you comfortable
1:25:43
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with that if anything we're saying
1:25:46
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you're not following because it's a
1:25:47
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little complex just let us know but are
1:25:49
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you comfortable with that
1:25:51
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approach yes thank you sorry about that
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de find our
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screen
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okay I just have one I do think one
1:26:02
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thing we should think about in the
1:26:03
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overall format is just making sure that
1:26:04
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we have prioritized the things that we
1:26:06
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need to get across like this is more of
1:26:08
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an FYI this is not something that PBC
1:26:11
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necessarily needs to know so that would
1:26:13
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just like I would know I would
1:26:15
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appreciate knowing what is really
1:26:17
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critical to review and like is
1:26:19
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applicable to the current update so that
1:26:22
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would be to consider
1:26:28
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there was a couple that you wanted to
1:26:30
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yeah I just that was the new ones um and
1:26:33
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then the other ones we were going to
1:26:35
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flag for the IAP update uh was around
1:26:39
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policy F3 this is more aggressive in
1:26:42
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terms that requesting a more aggressive
1:26:44
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approach for shifting energy
1:26:47
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patterns and then um there was one on
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mention of C uh the community Emergency
1:26:52
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Response Team so our proposal is those
1:26:55
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are considered as part of the IAP update
1:26:57
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but I wanted to make sure the board was
1:27:00
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comfortable with that or if we want to
1:27:01
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pull them out for further discussion
1:27:04
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tonight and if it's helpful I can pull
1:27:07
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up what policy F3 is or dve yeah for for
1:27:12
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context policy F3 is one of the Targets
1:27:15
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in the climate action plan um related to
1:27:19
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um reducing fossil fuel use in existing
1:27:22
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buildings by uh 20% by 2030 and 80% by
1:27:28
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2050 is that consistent with what's in
1:27:31
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the comp plan so that is that is the
1:27:35
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that's what's in the comp plan right now
1:27:36
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is reducing fossil Fu use in existing
1:27:38
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buildings 20% by 2030 and that's
1:27:40
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consistent with the climate action plan
1:27:42
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as well and that's the again the same uh
1:27:47
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existing buildings fossil field Target
1:27:48
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from the King County climate
1:27:50
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collaborative as well which is which is
1:27:52
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really where that came from in the first
1:27:53
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place
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there was a Comm out here to strengthen
1:27:56
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that policy to be
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more that forward yeah I can just give
1:28:03
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context that was my comment and that was
1:28:05
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the reason I said that is there's a
1:28:07
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another policy that is to reduce overall
1:28:09
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energy use by 25% in buildings and so
1:28:12
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it's to me weird that we would have if
1:28:14
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we hit the 25% reduction we would have
1:28:17
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already achieved more than we've said in
1:28:19
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the fossil fuel reduction so and maybe
1:28:22
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there's some math I'm not doing right
1:28:24
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but but that seems to me like we should
1:28:26
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have a more aggressive if we're trying
1:28:27
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to reduce by 25% then the target for
1:28:30
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fossil fuel production should be higher
1:28:32
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than the target for overall energy
1:28:39
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use our folks um can we punt that to the
1:28:44
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IAP update for discussion on the target
1:28:47
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since I think we want the comp plan to
1:28:50
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reflect the IAP targets as written I'm
1:28:54
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yeah I just think that's something we
1:28:56
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need to update on the IP yeah that just
1:28:58
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seems inconsistent to how what that
1:29:02
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might require when we're doing the IAP
1:29:05
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update process um we can probably try
1:29:07
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and do some analysis there that that 25%
1:29:10
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includes electricity use yeah right so
1:29:12
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that's going to be why there is that
1:29:14
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difference in percentage numbers um
1:29:18
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because that's that's talking about
1:29:19
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overall energy use so electricity and
1:29:21
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fossil fuels right versus just the fuels
1:29:24
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although um as we're thinking about
1:29:26
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these overall greenhouse gas reductions
1:29:28
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that you know we're also going to
1:29:29
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Electrify some of that fossil fuel use
1:29:31
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and so there's kind of all of these
1:29:33
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pieces working working together and
1:29:36
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um to hit all these different
1:29:42
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goals a good thing to okay
1:29:47
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okay
1:29:51
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on and then just the last one was the
1:29:53
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mention of c um the community emergency
1:29:56
↗
response team as part of the resilience
1:29:59
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and well-being
1:30:01
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policies um okay I think staff would be
1:30:05
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comfortable making that change we did
1:30:06
↗
feel like that level of specificity in
1:30:09
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terms of calling out a program could be
1:30:12
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maybe best included in a functional plan
1:30:14
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like the IAP um but defer to the board
1:30:18
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on
1:30:20
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your certain mentioned in your Emergency
1:30:23
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Management plan documents as well yes
1:30:30
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yeah comment there go ahead ke I was
1:30:35
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just going to say that was my suggestion
1:30:37
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um just seemed like there wasn't a lot
1:30:38
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of specificity in mentioning um ways to
1:30:41
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uh have that Readiness for climate
1:30:44
↗
resilience um and and that's the program
1:30:47
↗
that I'm familiar with that that would
1:30:48
↗
seem best positioned for that but uh
1:30:51
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like you say if it's already mentioned
1:30:52
↗
an emergency uh uh plans and stuff maybe
1:30:55
↗
not
1:30:56
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necessary I don't know that sir from the
1:30:59
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Emergency Management side takes into
1:31:02
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account climate
1:31:06
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resilience something we're working with
1:31:08
↗
an emergency manage um management office
1:31:11
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on um I don't I don't know if they are
1:31:13
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called out specifically in the IAP but
1:31:16
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as we work more with them and they
1:31:18
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really are um kind of a Frontline
1:31:21
↗
response team that's it will be
1:31:23
↗
important that they are called out and
1:31:29
↗
that any concerns If We Hold that one um
1:31:34
↗
for the IAP update are you okay with
1:31:37
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that Keith or it your preference to
1:31:40
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do yeah if other folks agree that makes
1:31:43
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sense to
1:31:47
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me I would I would say talk with your
1:31:50
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Emergency Management folks because Ser
1:31:52
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is a very defined program
1:31:55
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the two need to be in correlation with
1:31:57
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each other if you're going to mention
1:31:59
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the word c in here they have to be
1:32:01
↗
teaching that in that
1:32:06
↗
yeah all right I think David's then
1:32:08
↗
gonna talk about um other
1:32:11
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recommendations that we want to get some
1:32:14
↗
agreement on the board uh whether or not
1:32:16
↗
to make those immediate revisions to
1:32:20
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envirment yeah so um I'm going to go
1:32:22
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through each of these individually and
1:32:25
↗
and provide just some context around uh
1:32:28
↗
some of the staff response um and then
1:32:31
↗
kind of open it up to to thoughts from
1:32:33
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the board on inclusion in the letter so
1:32:36
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for the first point um around the vision
1:32:39
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so that piece of the vision that point U
1:32:41
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relates to educating and engaging
1:32:44
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residents and businesses to inspire
1:32:46
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Behavior change uh in addressing climate
1:32:48
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change and enhancing our natural
1:32:50
↗
environment and the comment was uh to
1:32:53
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update the vision to to specifically
1:32:56
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call out um uh encompassing both adults
1:32:59
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and schoolage children um and then also
1:33:02
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uh to essentially expand um the
1:33:05
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incorporation of Education throughout
1:33:07
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the comp plan and and um the climate the
1:33:10
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environmental and climate stewardship
1:33:12
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element um as well um so the staff
1:33:17
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response really is that um we have
1:33:21
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Incorporated education into many of
1:33:23
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policies although of course we're we're
1:33:25
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open to exploring other spots where that
1:33:28
↗
fits um the uh some of the uh specific
1:33:34
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recommendations on kind of the pieces to
1:33:37
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in uh include around education um sta
1:33:40
↗
field might uh fall more under um School
1:33:44
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District purview versus say the city
1:33:46
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right especially as it relates to um
1:33:49
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impacting School curriculum um and then
1:33:53
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additionally as we get into more
1:33:54
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specific um actions um that can be
1:33:57
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something that we can uh talk about
1:33:59
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during the IAP update process so that's
1:34:02
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kind of some of our initial thought on
1:34:04
↗
on this uh recommendation here but love
1:34:07
↗
to hear any Bard thoughts on uh this
1:34:15
↗
comment that was my comment basically
1:34:19
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it's you know sustainability is a
1:34:21
↗
difficult concept for people to
1:34:22
↗
understand and I think it needs to start
1:34:27
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early that's that's and
1:34:31
↗
somehow um try to get it into freaking I
1:34:35
↗
don't know how we would do that but
1:34:38
↗
education when I read these plans it
1:34:40
↗
sounds like education is everywhere
1:34:43
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within the plans but it's kind of
1:34:45
↗
focused towards adults and think we just
1:34:48
↗
need to start early because
1:34:54
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yeah I think it's a great and we do have
1:34:56
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a partnership with a group that is
1:34:59
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sustainability ambassadors that
1:35:00
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presented in June that is actually
1:35:02
↗
working on some curriculum but this may
1:35:05
↗
be a gap in this section where we're not
1:35:07
↗
calling
1:35:09
↗
out high school and and AG group so we
1:35:13
↗
could look at that vision and see if
1:35:15
↗
there's any adjustments we could make
1:35:21
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to so sty just one comment on that and
1:35:24
↗
things may have changed but I had
1:35:26
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actually requested like about seven or
1:35:29
↗
eight years back that you know the
1:35:31
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elementary schools should start doing
1:35:34
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Environmental Education start as a part
1:35:37
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of a separate class or at least as a
1:35:39
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part of science class or if you can't do
1:35:41
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it at least start as an extracurricular
1:35:45
↗
class but it should be a class workor um
1:35:48
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and I had gone to the principls and
1:35:50
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talked to a couple of School principles
1:35:52
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and I was told told that the school
1:35:55
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curriculum needs to be approved by the
1:35:58
↗
state and so you know it was a long
1:36:01
↗
drawn procedure and it takes apparently
1:36:03
↗
10 years to change the curriculum and
1:36:05
↗
stuff so I just wanted to and things may
1:36:07
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have changed especially now you know
1:36:09
↗
everybody is getting more of climate
1:36:12
↗
action and other things so I hope the
1:36:15
↗
change can be faster but I just wanted
1:36:17
↗
to let you know that where it stood at
1:36:20
↗
that point yeah and I think that's where
1:36:22
↗
we're trying to be careful all that the
1:36:25
↗
city isn't getting in the way of OSI or
1:36:31
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is AA School District that is not our
1:36:34
↗
role but where we can support programs
1:36:36
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like sustainability ambassadors or the
1:36:39
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students um working on the istd
1:36:41
↗
sustainability policy which might bring
1:36:43
↗
in some requirements for sustainable
1:36:46
↗
curriculum players a role um and it
1:36:49
↗
could be you know included as a part of
1:36:51
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all these sustainability programs Green
1:36:54
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Team
1:36:54
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sustain everything done so but it needs
1:36:57
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to be consistent to be to the point of
1:37:00
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John it needs to be consistent and
1:37:03
↗
actually an educational effort versus
1:37:06
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you know just once in a month type of
1:37:08
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extracurricular activity to really get
1:37:11
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the you know to be
1:37:14
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effective
1:37:16
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okay yeah I think David and I can look
1:37:18
↗
at the language tomorrow and and we can
1:37:21
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incorporate
1:37:24
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um Concepts around this to the vision
1:37:28
↗
yeah I think the vision and then also
1:37:29
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maybe some of that introduction language
1:37:31
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as well where we might have a little bit
1:37:33
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more space to extrapolate on on some
1:37:35
↗
pieces right
1:37:38
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okay great um moving right along um
1:37:43
↗
streams wetlands and
1:37:46
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Wildlife
1:37:47
↗
um so this is uh goal area B and C
1:37:54
↗
um and the comment from the board was to
1:37:58
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incorporate um more of the the comments
1:38:01
↗
specifically related to uh wildlife and
1:38:04
↗
some of those policies that were
1:38:05
↗
proposed back in January um emphasizing
1:38:09
↗
the importance of wildlife protection um
1:38:12
↗
and adoption adopting uh policies that
1:38:15
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support neighborhood level education
1:38:18
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around
1:38:19
↗
Wildlife um so I think as staff are kind
1:38:22
↗
of thinking about this and and exploring
1:38:25
↗
this um some of the the questions that
1:38:29
↗
came up really is where does this really
1:38:31
↗
fall within the city um right now a lot
1:38:34
↗
of the wildlife work
1:38:36
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is spread out across different
1:38:39
↗
departments um some of this is wildlife
1:38:42
↗
work that um I don't believe that the
1:38:44
↗
city is really doing yet um and so I
1:38:47
↗
think there is some question on kind of
1:38:49
↗
where does this really land in this uh
1:38:52
↗
in the comp plan and then also kind of
1:38:54
↗
integrated into City work
1:38:56
↗
um yeah so I'll I'll leave it there but
1:38:59
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I'd love to hear kind of uh forward
1:39:01
↗
reactions to really what we should uh
1:39:04
↗
continue to include in this letter as
1:39:06
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the person that keeps pushing this FL if
1:39:09
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you look at next door you look at any of
1:39:12
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the neighborhood Facebook groups look at
1:39:15
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anything else the most thing you most
1:39:17
↗
likely see is there's a bear in my
1:39:19
↗
neighborhood or did you see the you know
1:39:22
↗
whatever it is that's walking down the
1:39:23
↗
street these days the people in this
1:39:26
↗
community have a unique coexistence with
1:39:29
↗
Wildlife um it's a really important part
1:39:31
↗
of the community that's why we all live
1:39:33
↗
here they're not just in streams and
1:39:35
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wetlands and I think we need to
1:39:37
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acknowledge that boy I really like
1:39:39
↗
living in in an area where we have big
1:39:42
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cat total cats
1:39:44
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Bears there's L many places you can say
1:39:47
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that you've got that walking down your
1:39:48
↗
street and so my comment to this is we
1:39:51
↗
should acknowledge that because because
1:39:53
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it is such a big part of this community
1:39:56
↗
now maybe it does because it's with
1:39:57
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streams wetlands and Wildlife well you
1:39:59
↗
think streams and wetlands but wild life
1:40:01
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is walking down the street it's walking
1:40:03
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through the trees we see it all over the
1:40:05
↗
place when you're hiking so what I'm
1:40:07
↗
trying to do is acknowledge that part of
1:40:10
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this community that makes is aaso
1:40:12
↗
special and that's part of our
1:40:13
↗
comprehensive plan we want to keep
1:40:15
↗
seeing those down Wildlife walking down
1:40:16
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our street that's and I'm kind of
1:40:19
↗
passionate about it because I just think
1:40:21
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I really love seeing those posts that
1:40:23
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people people put and I think we should
1:40:24
↗
continue to celebrate that that's what
1:40:26
↗
we've managed to accomplish in this
1:40:28
↗
community that's just my vision of this
1:40:32
↗
okay so the part of this that comes to
1:40:34
↗
mind for me which I've been a bit of a
1:40:36
↗
broken record on is and it's just an
1:40:38
↗
example um is is our trash management
1:40:43
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and the education around trash
1:40:44
↗
management and bears and so I feel like
1:40:47
↗
there is opportunity and like I I don't
1:40:50
↗
I'm not sure what all specifics of
1:40:52
↗
nany's comments are but I I do think
1:40:54
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that the coexisting with Wildlife is
1:40:57
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something that our residents aren't
1:40:59
↗
aware that the fact that they because
1:41:01
↗
they're not protecting their trash a
1:41:03
↗
mama bear and three Cubs had to be put
1:41:05
↗
down like that's the unfortunate truth
1:41:08
↗
of what these people putting out their
1:41:10
↗
trash and leaving it out is and so I
1:41:12
↗
think I don't think that's probably the
1:41:14
↗
way that you say it to them but I I do
1:41:15
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think that there's an education gap of
1:41:17
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like what do you need to do to be a
1:41:20
↗
responsible citizen around that wildlife
1:41:23
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um because actually I don't want to see
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that Mama Bear out on Thursdays around
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track like so that like I think there's
1:41:29
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there's there's like that's actually a
1:41:30
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negative in some cases so I do think
1:41:32
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that there is opportunity in that
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something that is critical and I don't
1:41:37
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know where it lives but but it is like
1:41:39
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we still don't have it within our Waste
1:41:41
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Management like contract or like it
1:41:44
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still is a gap and I think it's how
1:41:46
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we're protecting Wildlife throughout the
1:41:47
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city and and this seems like the to to
1:41:51
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nany's point this is the only point that
1:41:53
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wild life or the only part of the comp
1:41:54
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plan that says Wildlife so I do think
1:41:56
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there's something there I don't know
1:41:58
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what the specifics are but that it's a
1:42:00
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core value should be a core value of
1:42:02
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being in isqu that we're educating
1:42:05
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ourselves to be responsible
1:42:08
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citizens than you
1:42:10
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Jamie thinking at from comp plan
1:42:13
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perspective I don't know if the comp
1:42:14
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plan can do anything to create education
1:42:17
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program but it certainly can promote it
1:42:20
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so just having language in there stating
1:42:22
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that want to promote Wildlife education
1:42:25
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program and kind of that last sentence
1:42:26
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you have in the middle box there getting
1:42:29
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that into the comp
1:42:31
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plan that builds support for future
1:42:35
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staff to develop that
1:42:38
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program see maybe David we on the
1:42:41
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policies around Wildlife could you just
1:42:43
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quickly summarize what what they are
1:42:46
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yeah because I don't I think they're
1:42:48
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more more focused on corridors
1:42:50
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connectivity Less on Ed
1:42:54
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yeah so um the goal is to protect and
1:42:58
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improve the environment functions of
1:43:00
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conservation areas and corridors
1:43:03
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corridors um to balance development with
1:43:06
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the natural environment so people can
1:43:08
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coexist with fish and wildlife
1:43:11
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habitats the policies themselves so kind
1:43:14
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of digging in that one one step further
1:43:17
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um the first one is to create connected
1:43:19
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Wildlife
1:43:21
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corridors um the second is to coordinate
1:43:25
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land use planning and
1:43:26
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management
1:43:29
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um related to Fish and Wildlife
1:43:32
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Resources the third is to improve fish
1:43:34
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habitat and remove barriers from natural
1:43:36
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systems and the fourth is to integrate
1:43:39
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Park system plans goals and policies
1:43:42
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into raran riparian corridors for
1:43:45
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multiple benefits including enhanced
1:43:47
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wildlife habitat so it is very focused
1:43:50
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on on that habitat uh
1:43:55
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look at that language again and see if
1:43:57
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you can
1:43:59
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incorporate
1:44:01
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education into some of that that's why
1:44:04
↗
I'm wondering it doesn't quite fit
1:44:08
↗
within the goal but I don't know where
1:44:10
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else it would best live but we could
1:44:12
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bring in this language out and and added
1:44:17
↗
in as a policy under that section
1:44:20
↗
Stephen would there be any major
1:44:22
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concerns with
1:44:27
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that just read it through the language
1:44:29
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again uh we re uh add in the emphasize
1:44:33
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importance of wildlife protection
1:44:34
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education aiming for wildlife to thrive
1:44:36
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even as the city grows denser and it's
1:44:39
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um in the section policy C or goal C and
1:44:44
↗
B which this does mention as the city
1:44:46
↗
grows dener which fits into kind of what
1:44:49
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that goal is getting at
1:44:51
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also I have no concerns with u the
1:44:54
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addition of the policy or the language
1:44:56
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uh into the element it's just more of
1:44:58
↗
the question of what does that mean for
1:45:00
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the city is there specific actions or
1:45:02
↗
metrics that are tied to the policy I
1:45:05
↗
think we would want to have that
1:45:06
↗
discussion with the next I
1:45:10
↗
update well I know at one time we have
1:45:12
↗
talked in this board about where does
1:45:14
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the environment sit within the city
1:45:17
↗
who's responsible for managing the
1:45:19
↗
environment who's the environmental lead
1:45:21
↗
in according to state I understand it's
1:45:23
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a team approach and things like this
1:45:26
↗
lead us to more do we need an
1:45:29
↗
environmental Advocate leader in the
1:45:32
↗
city and that conversation we haven't
1:45:34
↗
had here but it's something that that
1:45:37
↗
person would take on in this role so you
1:45:40
↗
if that's important point that out we've
1:45:43
↗
had that conversation haven't resolved
1:45:49
↗
it great well we can make um an update
1:45:53
↗
uh to that section that is a this
1:45:56
↗
concept I know it is a new policy where
1:45:58
↗
we talked about policies being fed to
1:46:00
↗
the IAP but I think this concept has
1:46:02
↗
been brought up multiple times and
1:46:04
↗
discussed so um we can work on
1:46:07
↗
integrating it into uh the
1:46:12
↗
section um so the next comment um uh
1:46:16
↗
still relates to this Wildlife goal goal
1:46:18
↗
C that um I had mentioned before
1:46:21
↗
relating to protecting protecting and
1:46:23
↗
improving environmental functions uh for
1:46:26
↗
wildlife uh and people
1:46:29
↗
coexisting um and uh the comment was to
1:46:32
↗
include considerations for minimizing
1:46:34
↗
traffic noise and light pollution
1:46:36
↗
impacts on Wildlife um in policies
1:46:40
↗
regarding connected Wildlife
1:46:42
↗
corridors um and one of the things that
1:46:45
↗
that staff wanted to point out is that
1:46:47
↗
um the way go C is written and some of
1:46:50
↗
those policies are written are are
1:46:52
↗
written to be
1:46:53
↗
to
1:46:54
↗
Encompass uh those pieces such as
1:46:56
↗
minimizing traffic noise and light
1:46:58
↗
pollution um and and so those specific
1:47:02
↗
strategies aren't reflected into the uh
1:47:06
↗
into the policies themselves
1:47:09
↗
um but uh that can be something that we
1:47:13
↗
open up for discussion if that's
1:47:14
↗
something that the the board would like
1:47:15
↗
to see reflected more and more that
1:47:18
↗
specific uh strategy pieces or whether
1:47:21
↗
that's something more for functional
1:47:23
↗
plan updates ke had a
1:47:26
↗
comment I just want to say this was my
1:47:29
↗
suggestion and I'm noticing a trend
1:47:31
↗
where I uh look for input to provide and
1:47:34
↗
find it uh you know in real specific uh
1:47:37
↗
kind of ideas so um still learning the
1:47:40
↗
um what this board really needs for me
1:47:42
↗
in terms of that input so please uh feel
1:47:44
↗
free to disregard that if it if it be
1:47:46
↗
more appropriate just to leave it at
1:47:47
↗
those broader
1:47:49
↗
goals it's really important input
1:47:52
↗
because it might be lost even if it
1:47:54
↗
doesn't get added into the comp plan I
1:47:56
↗
think it's important that You' likeed it
1:47:58
↗
so it's not lost as those plans
1:48:01
↗
are absolutely but yeah we want I mean
1:48:03
↗
we thought it was worth a conversation
1:48:05
↗
with the board on whether they want to
1:48:07
↗
see that level like
1:48:11
↗
details
1:48:13
↗
okay any thoughts any concerns if this
1:48:17
↗
this level of detail um is held off for
1:48:20
↗
other plans
1:48:23
↗
want to see more in
1:48:29
↗
the um moving along to uh a comment
1:48:33
↗
relating to goal D which is uh our tree
1:48:37
↗
goal area so right now it reads uh
1:48:41
↗
maintain and enhance Citywide tree
1:48:43
↗
canopy um and the comment is to revise
1:48:46
↗
the go to read maintain and restore tree
1:48:49
↗
tree wide Citywide tree canopy um
1:48:53
↗
and we wanted to bring this back to the
1:48:54
↗
board this was actually a change made by
1:48:57
↗
the board at an earlier conversation um
1:48:59
↗
thinking that uh enhance goes beyond
1:49:02
↗
restoration and and kind of um is
1:49:05
↗
speaking more to uh really improving our
1:49:09
↗
tree canopy overall um and so I wanted
1:49:11
↗
to bring it back to the board on whether
1:49:14
↗
or not the board is still comfortable
1:49:15
↗
with that enhanced language or whether
1:49:17
↗
or not we should uh go back to uh the
1:49:20
↗
language of ReStore in
1:49:27
↗
instead I think that was my comment to
1:49:30
↗
my first read through that's why I
1:49:32
↗
picked it up it just seemed like it was
1:49:35
↗
you know you weren't hitting the mark by
1:49:38
↗
just
1:49:39
↗
P
1:49:41
↗
okay I remember that earlier
1:49:44
↗
conversation I think we talked about the
1:49:46
↗
difference between restore and enhance
1:49:48
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and there was a lot of conversation
1:49:50
↗
about what does restore really mean
1:49:52
↗
restore to what level
1:49:55
↗
when so H was think where we
1:50:02
↗
landed we wanted to bring it
1:50:07
↗
back okay make sure
1:50:11
↗
that I do want to recognize the board
1:50:13
↗
has been going through this comp plan
1:50:15
↗
for over a year now I believe so um
1:50:18
↗
there has been a lot of conversation
1:50:20
↗
year and a half lot of conversations and
1:50:22
↗
um happy to keep bringing bringing these
1:50:25
↗
questions up and they're important to
1:50:26
↗
continue to to uh keep
1:50:30
↗
addressing so my my understanding is
1:50:33
↗
that we're okay keeping enhanced
1:50:34
↗
language there
1:50:37
↗
yes um so the next question was related
1:50:39
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to policy
1:50:41
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D2 um which reads retain existing trees
1:50:45
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in critical areas and their buffers long
1:50:47
↗
designated walking and biking corridors
1:50:49
↗
and other green spaces and the
1:50:51
↗
recommendation was to expand that policy
1:50:54
↗
to include uh retain an increase uh tree
1:50:58
↗
canopy along these
1:50:59
↗
corridors um I actually just chatted
1:51:02
↗
with Dan as he was leaving right now um
1:51:06
↗
staff don't uh I think have any issues
1:51:09
↗
adding that increased language if that's
1:51:11
↗
something that the board would like to
1:51:13
↗
do um roughly there have been some
1:51:16
↗
conversations around increasing that
1:51:18
↗
tree canopy along some of those riparian
1:51:20
↗
quarters and and um other
1:51:23
↗
isn't always um necessarily the um
1:51:28
↗
doesn't always necessarily enhance the
1:51:29
↗
ecosystem Services however um it is
1:51:32
↗
something that we absolutely do want to
1:51:34
↗
do in some areas maybe not in others but
1:51:36
↗
it uh can definitely be part of this
1:51:38
↗
this policy if uh the board would like
1:51:41
↗
to see
1:51:42
↗
that J yeah that was my comment I mean I
1:51:45
↗
do think especially after we just had
1:51:47
↗
their reinforcement management plan I
1:51:48
↗
think it is important that yeah it's not
1:51:50
↗
everywhere like we ar planning tree is
1:51:53
↗
where they're not meant to be but it
1:51:55
↗
seems aligned with what we're talking
1:51:57
↗
about for the urban Force management
1:51:58
↗
plan to not just be talking about
1:51:59
↗
retaining Trea that there are
1:52:01
↗
opportunities to increase so that was
1:52:03
↗
why I made the comment
1:52:04
↗
so yeah I would I would support
1:52:07
↗
obviously I
1:52:08
↗
support I would I mean it's consistent
1:52:12
↗
with the comment above of you know
1:52:14
↗
maintain and enhance and it's also
1:52:16
↗
consistent with the tree canopy goals
1:52:20
↗
City okay
1:52:23
↗
I think that is something that we can
1:52:26
↗
easily
1:52:27
↗
do any other questions or concerns on
1:52:31
↗
that that one before I move
1:52:33
↗
on okay so uh next we have uh we're
1:52:39
↗
moving into our greenhouse gas policies
1:52:43
↗
now so policy
1:52:46
↗
E8 um so this is a actually a new policy
1:52:50
↗
this year um
1:52:53
↗
that was proposed earlier in the process
1:52:55
↗
but it's um leveraging Regional
1:52:57
↗
Partnerships and advocate for Statewide
1:52:59
↗
policies to address upstream and
1:53:02
↗
downstream green Downstream greenhouse
1:53:04
↗
gas emissions from activities not
1:53:07
↗
directly controlled by isqua community
1:53:09
↗
members or the city of isqua such as
1:53:12
↗
material consumption and
1:53:14
↗
Aviation um and the comment was to um
1:53:19
↗
focus on or have this policy address all
1:53:21
↗
forms of trans portation um including
1:53:24
↗
those through and above the community
1:53:26
↗
and not just to focus on
1:53:28
↗
Aviation um when we were writing this
1:53:31
↗
policy uh for the first time this year
1:53:33
↗
one of the ideas here was to kind of
1:53:35
↗
call out two of the big ideas or big
1:53:38
↗
areas where uh frankly the city doesn't
1:53:41
↗
have a lot of control over reducing uh
1:53:44
↗
emissions but where we can uh do our
1:53:47
↗
best to advocate for and explore
1:53:50
↗
opportunities to uh um support Statewide
1:53:54
↗
policies that can address some of these
1:53:55
↗
emission areas and so material
1:53:57
↗
consumption and Aviation were called out
1:53:59
↗
as examples but we're not meant to be an
1:54:01
↗
exhausted list of of these uh areas
1:54:04
↗
outside of or where we have less control
1:54:08
↗
um so I would turn it over uh to the
1:54:10
↗
board to see if there's any other
1:54:12
↗
comments on um are we comfortable with
1:54:15
↗
the level of detail that's in the policy
1:54:17
↗
or do we uh would the board like to see
1:54:19
↗
more specific uh examples uh more
1:54:22
↗
Transportation examples included in that
1:54:24
↗
or we could remove the examples yes we
1:54:27
↗
could do that
1:54:31
↗
yeah struck a nerve that felt like you
1:54:33
↗
were singling out
1:54:35
↗
Aviation and I see just as much
1:54:40
↗
greenhouse gas being
1:54:42
↗
emitted right on high 90 and state R 900
1:54:46
↗
people pass through that was my thought
1:54:50
↗
is U you know
1:54:57
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[Laughter]
1:55:01
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oh I'm rereading this policy and I don't
1:55:05
↗
know what it means like it's that just
1:55:08
↗
some I don't actually it's like a mental
1:55:11
↗
pretzel that I get into when I try to
1:55:13
↗
read this policiy that I don't know
1:55:15
↗
could
1:55:16
↗
you state what this what are we what are
1:55:20
↗
we trying to say with this policy
1:55:23
↗
yeah so this
1:55:26
↗
policy uh is intended to give us a
1:55:29
↗
little bit more
1:55:30
↗
flexibility advocating for more policies
1:55:35
↗
at the state level that can address um
1:55:39
↗
sources of greenhouse gas
1:55:41
↗
emissions that the city doesn't control
1:55:44
↗
and and can't really pass policies to
1:55:47
↗
impact right so when we think about our
1:55:51
↗
uh CommunityWide greenhouse gas
1:55:54
↗
emissions um some of those the way those
1:55:57
↗
are calculated there's different um
1:56:00
↗
options and some of that is right
1:56:02
↗
thinking about um material consumption
1:56:05
↗
from community members some of those
1:56:07
↗
greenhouse gas inventories include
1:56:09
↗
Aviation emissions right um
1:56:13
↗
transportation Emissions on I90 are
1:56:15
↗
included on our green cast gas emissions
1:56:17
↗
right um and so this policy is is
1:56:21
↗
intended to to say kind of well what can
1:56:24
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we do to address those emissions that
1:56:27
↗
the state that the city doesn't quite
1:56:29
↗
control but instead how can we kind of
1:56:31
↗
continue to push the state to to go
1:56:33
↗
farther I do think that and I actually
1:56:36
↗
think that more specific examples would
1:56:39
↗
be helpful because I don't think the
1:56:41
↗
average person I I I don't think the
1:56:43
↗
average person is gonna understand what
1:56:45
↗
goal this is like so I think I would I
1:56:49
↗
don't know which examples those are but
1:56:51
↗
it seems like examples would be helpful
1:56:54
↗
and maybe more specific examples because
1:56:56
↗
I think otherwise this point is going to
1:56:57
↗
be
1:56:59
↗
lost is that the role of the city to it
1:57:03
↗
seems like it should be these kind of
1:57:05
↗
things should dealt with at say the
1:57:06
↗
state or
1:57:08
↗
federal it should be but we can sign on
1:57:11
↗
to letters um advocating for policy so
1:57:15
↗
that would be our role or are you trying
1:57:17
↗
to set policies for for the city itself
1:57:21
↗
no that
1:57:22
↗
Statewide or um uh for a particular
1:57:29
↗
industry yeah but we yeah we could um if
1:57:33
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generalizing it means it's not
1:57:35
↗
understood we could look at more uh
1:57:39
↗
examples of what those sources are so it
1:57:41
↗
doesn't look like we're calling out
1:57:43
↗
deviation specifically we could also
1:57:45
↗
potentially maybe pull out some of the
1:57:48
↗
more technical words yeah exactly maybe
1:57:51
↗
it's pulling out of that piece to make
1:57:53
↗
it a little
1:57:57
↗
streamlined a little confus maybe
1:58:00
↗
because I haven't read it in detail as
1:58:02
↗
well but so what is the goal of the
1:58:05
↗
policy is it because first when I was
1:58:08
↗
listening to you I thought it was more
1:58:10
↗
for and I totally get it mean you know
1:58:13
↗
even though you the G emissions cutting
1:58:17
↗
down goals are pretty ambitious as for
1:58:20
↗
the city and it is way more complicated
1:58:23
↗
actually you know and as you mentioned
1:58:25
↗
there are a lot of things which
1:58:27
↗
especially being a city are out of your
1:58:29
↗
control because you know you don't have
1:58:32
↗
the control over what everybody else
1:58:36
↗
does or passes through his but at the
1:58:38
↗
same time as a city those emissions will
1:58:41
↗
contribute to your calculation correct
1:58:44
↗
that that is where the problem is so
1:58:46
↗
first I thought you were trying to give
1:58:48
↗
the city a little bit of flexibility so
1:58:51
↗
basically you were trying to spell it
1:58:52
↗
out that there are a few emissions which
1:58:55
↗
are out of control and these are some
1:58:58
↗
examples which will be still contributed
1:59:00
↗
to the city just as an FYI so the
1:59:03
↗
ambitious goal may or may not include
1:59:07
↗
you know the reduction in these
1:59:08
↗
emissions is that the goal of this
1:59:10
↗
policy or is it actually to spell it out
1:59:13
↗
as an fi for the state that hey this is
1:59:16
↗
what is happening and so we need the
1:59:18
↗
flexibility but you guys need to do
1:59:20
↗
something about it so
1:59:22
↗
that is where I am kind of lost I'm not
1:59:25
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sure sure yeah maybe flexibility was not
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not the right word for me to use I I
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think simply put the the policy is
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intended to um encourage the city to
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Advocate at the state level for some of
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these uh to address greenhouse gas
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emissions that should be um impacted at
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the state level versus at the city level
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so then I have another additional
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question so is there a discussion in
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your greenhouse gas emissions inventory
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and reduction programs where you
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actually spell out what are the factors
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which are not controlled by the city and
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how they add up to your greenhouse gas
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emissions I think that would be a good
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thing to add because you know that is
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going to add to your gions no matter
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what and you may not have enough control
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over it yeah some of them are included
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into our greenhouse gas inventory some
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are not so for in Aviation is not
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included in our current CommunityWide
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numbers although we do have some of
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those numbers based on um estimates of
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population and income level that's kind
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of disaggregated down to City levels
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right so they're uh some of those
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numbers uh we have some we don't have
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and I think to some degree as greenhouse
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gas inventory processes change um there
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is going to be kind of a update and kind
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of what is included into those
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greenhouse gas inventories and so some
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of these aspects in particular are kind
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of on that that next edge of whether or
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not they're included into greenhouse gas
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inventories in the future as we're
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thinking about a more comprehensive look
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at really where do our greenhouse gas
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inventory uh greenhouse gas emissions
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come from and so just one thing I would
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like to add so it is good to have these
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assumptions or the discussions clearly
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stated somewhere and I'm myself doing G
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inventory for the company so I can tell
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you very frankly as you said you know
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the processes change and the criteria
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change so I actually note down the
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assumptions or whatever is what data is
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available or what is not available I
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have clear listings of all of it because
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you know I assume over the next five to
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10 years there will be a lot of back and
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forth
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on that will be it thank
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you what was it the intent of this
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policy to talk only about things outside
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of City's demand or is it also City's uh
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decisions the city may make which would
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affect expenditure of greenhouse gas in
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the broader uh World for for example
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policies about sending people to
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conferences in an airplane versus
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attending virtually or I mean even the
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even this wonderful facility here is
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reducing our greenhouse gas emissions
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here on a local basis so is is that part
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of the intent or is that covered
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somewhere else so I would say those are
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covered other points in in the C plan
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and and the climate action plan around
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specifically are um reducing say energy
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use from our buildings right and from
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our city operations things like that
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this policy is really focused on the
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things um outside of our control
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directly outside of our control like an
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example being like is it building code a
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good example of this like trying to
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advocate for I think that's what like
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yeah yeah I don't think so we have
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others around the building code I think
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this is like operations at King counties
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um um at the the dump essentially where
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we get accounted for that even though
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it's not within the city it's for
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community members within isoa that are
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flying we're getting we can account for
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those emissions I don't know what other
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good example yeah another good example
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is like um you know for instance if our
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community members are buying a lot of
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tables and the taable you know the
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manufacturing of those tables are
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causing a lot of greenhouse gas
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emissions right we as the city can't
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really pass any policies or we can't
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really pass too many policies that are
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addressing the greenhouse gas emissions
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and manufacturing of a table from some
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else but this policy within our comp
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plan is to say well where possible let's
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work with the state or Advocate at the
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state level to kind of put into place
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those policies that could address kind
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of that material consumption that that
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is just not really accounted for in most
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of our greenhouse gas
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inventories well why don't we can try
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and rework it like this one needs a
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little yeah yeah well at least for this
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version of a comp plan we can we'll
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either simplify it so it's easier to
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understand or add some more and or add
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some more examples so fol have a better
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understanding and then I think as we get
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into the IAP kind of finessing I would
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suggest to generalize it a little bit
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and just speak
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to being Advocates lobbyists with the
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legislature to promote the reduction in
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ght emission
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all forms of transportation material
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consumption
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Etc excellent the last on then s of a
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general
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comment yeah so the last one is there's
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a there's a section at the end of the
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environmental uh and Community uh
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stewardship uh element related to uh
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results in
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accountability um and uh
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the comment was to incorporate this
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throughout the C plan um and Stephen
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actually might have a better response uh
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to this than than I do but um my
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understanding is that for the the most
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part these are kind of standard uh
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policies that are um incorporated into
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all of the the subsections of the
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comprehensive plan um uh and there're
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also specific metrics for results and
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accountability are recognized in each of
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the the functional plans themselves
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Stephen do you have anything to add on
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the results and
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accountability uh policy no I think you
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covered it I mean it's it's the intent
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with creating that section for all the
2:06:03
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elements was to recognize that all the
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functional plans already have identified
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metrics aligned with all these policies
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and we want to make sure that
2:06:11
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flexibility on if we want to change
2:06:13
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those metrics stay with the functional
2:06:16
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plans because once you have it built
2:06:18
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into the comprehensive plan you have to
2:06:21
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go through the comprensive plan process
2:06:23
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to make those changes which is a timely
2:06:26
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process to do that which the functional
2:06:29
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plans you can do that at pretty much any
2:06:31
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time whenever you have these functional
2:06:34
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plan discussions on making
2:06:38
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updates well this was my comment and my
2:06:41
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take on and dis was reading through all
2:06:43
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these plans and all of a sudden the only
2:06:45
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place I really saw this results and
2:06:47
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accountability was in the environmental
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section and I'm like well that's kind of
2:06:52
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weird and that's why I brought up the
2:06:54
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comment that may be a overall section
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added to the whole comp plan which is
2:06:58
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you need to you know build the programs
2:07:00
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to make this to assess the results and
2:07:04
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make some accountability but it really
2:07:06
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didn't fit in just this section so
2:07:10
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that's that's how I came up with
2:07:15
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that I can I think we had this because
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the comment was within the environment
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element we had it in that section but I
2:07:23
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can I'll include it as a general comment
2:07:25
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in the letter yeah I think it's a
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general comment more that should be a
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section maybe in the comp plan for all
2:07:31
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sections to follow not just for the
2:07:35
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environmental
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only we're already over time for
2:07:40
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tonight's meeting so what those the
2:07:42
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comments on that unless anybody has
2:07:45
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strong I can just talk about next step
2:07:48
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so um David and I are going to take all
2:07:50
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the feedback on environment element and
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make the changes as was discussed
2:07:55
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tonight
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um into the element and then any of
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those that are not addressed or we've
2:08:02
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decided to Funt towards um IAP update
2:08:05
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we'll make sure those are captured in
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the letter still and reflected there um
2:08:10
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and then we'll be making a couple
2:08:11
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revisions to the letter that will go to
2:08:14
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PPC Don I'll probably we can talk after
2:08:17
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the meeting and get that to you uh
2:08:19
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tomorrow morning you
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um if folks we did uh send out the link
2:08:25
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to the letter last night um uh and it
2:08:29
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was added to the meeting packet if there
2:08:31
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were any other comments concerns that we
2:08:33
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didn't address tonight um or that you
2:08:36
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felt like your comments weren't
2:08:37
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reflected please let us know tomorrow
2:08:39
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morning if possible um but we really did
2:08:43
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uh try to just take all that feedback
2:08:46
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andate uh directly into that letter so
2:08:50
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to send that letter by
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yeah to that will go to Stephen to
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include in the PPC
2:08:57
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packet um and then just before we close
2:09:01
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out I have three quick things I wanted
2:09:02
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to do in the rest
2:09:04
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of we can close this session unless
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there's any other questions
2:09:10
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feedback thank you Stephen for being
2:09:13
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here thank you
2:09:15
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Stephen thank you all
2:09:22
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three um quick items before we close out
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I wanted to see if any youth report I
2:09:27
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know Mina is not here if there's
2:09:28
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anything you wanted to share I just
2:09:30
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wanted to ask does the environmental
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board ever do anything for the salmon
2:09:32
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Days
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event we haven't so just considering
2:09:38
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that it's like fair and by Nature it's
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it's gonna be a lot of littering and
2:09:41
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such it may be an idea to
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consider yeah we could send out
2:09:47
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volunteer opportunities the city is
2:09:49
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doing a booth this year that all the
2:09:52
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Departments share um we are not
2:09:55
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sponsoring any boosts we did last year
2:09:57
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uh but we are not doing that this years
2:10:00
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but we can send out opportunities for to
2:10:02
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get involved I know the Hatchery has
2:10:05
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volunteer opportunities I think through
2:10:07
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the chamber too um so I think it'd be
2:10:09
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wonderful to be the board out there or
2:10:11
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even out talking with members of the
2:10:13
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community people wanted to now that you
2:10:14
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have your nice name takes so yeah
2:10:17
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definitely maybe
2:10:19
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something why she did that
2:10:24
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so that's a great maybe we could have a
2:10:25
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conversation about that in September
2:10:27
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ahead of am and day's session if you
2:10:30
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have specific ideas for that yeah we
2:10:32
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love to hear nothing in particular it's
2:10:34
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just kind of flating right my
2:10:37
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mind um great and then um what I do have
2:10:42
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a number of updates and David and I
2:10:44
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wanted to se some volunteers uh for
2:10:46
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something and I have some reminders I
2:10:48
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will send those all in an email because
2:10:50
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I don't want to keep you all here here
2:10:52
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um the last two things I wanted to
2:10:53
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mention quickly are thank you you all
2:10:57
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are reviewing three massive plans over
2:11:00
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the last six weeks um the park plan H
2:11:05
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comp plan and the urban for management
2:11:07
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plan those are one brand new plan and
2:11:10
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two major updates so just wanted to say
2:11:12
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thank you I know it's a huge amount of
2:11:13
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time especially during summer um so
2:11:16
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really really appreciate all that
2:11:19
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input um last thing I wanted to say is
2:11:21
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thank you to Nick Nick is wrapping up
2:11:24
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actually next week um he's done a ton of
2:11:26
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work over the last few months on climate
2:11:29
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vulnerability assessment resilience Hub
2:11:31
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led a climate challenge uh team leader
2:11:34
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training with members of the community
2:11:37
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and help coordinate volunteers and ton
2:11:39
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more so just huge thank you to Nick Nick
2:11:42
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will be traveling uh for a bit and then
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um maybe looking into some Park
2:11:47
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interpretation and yeah so really
2:11:50
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appreciate everything that Nick's done
2:11:52
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for the city and please share your
2:11:55
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appreciation on your way the
2:12:06
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door all right with that thank you to an
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