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Monday, July 22, 2024

7:00 PM · 2h 0m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Brief Verbal Update Urban Forest Management Plan Implementation (I) AB 8915 8/14
2024 Park System Plan Adoption AB 8808 9/12
Enhancing Recreation Programs COM 0020 1/2
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of June 24, 2024
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 06-24-24 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave June 24, 2024 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Park System Plan Update
Information / Discussion · 40 min · Jeff Watling, Director Robin Spear, Park Planning & Development Manager Design Workshop Consultants · packet pp.5–15
Topics: Parks
Staff report:
II. Park System Plan- Direction for the Future III. Draft Chapter Outline Review IV. Park System Plan Core Values V. Concept: Creek to Peaks VI. Draft Projects and Prioritization Criteria VII. Schedule Update
4b
Enhancing Recreation Programs
Information / Discussion · 30 min · Jeff Watling, Director Brian Berntsen, Recreation Manager · packet pp.17–32
Staff report:
REGULAR BUSINESS b) A S P R ESENTED TO S E RVICES, SA F E TY A N D PA R KS CO M M I T T EE – J U LY 2 3 , 2 0 2 4 J eff Wat l i ng , Di re ctor
5. REPORTS
5a
Director's Report
5b
Chairperson's Report
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a
Minutes of Special Meeting on May 30, 2024 There being no corrections, the minutes are approved as presented
REGULAR BUSINESS
a
Urban Forest Management Plan Update
Information / Discussion · Dan Hintz, Urban Forest Supervisor PlanIT Geo Consultants Questions and discussion from the board included: Page31ofof32 Page APPROVAL OF MINUTES a)
Topics: Trees
REPORTS
a
Director's Report of July parade and festivities
b
Chairperson's Report and outdoor spaces for the holiday
0:03 okay there it is there we go thank you
0:06 okay 702 we'll call the meeting to order
0:09 I'll start with a roll call and uh Katie
0:13 B has an excused
0:17 absence
0:20 Andre Nicholas
0:23 Lee that we know of yet uh David L here
0:28 Jim Motley
0:32 see him yeah Branda Spears
0:35 here uh
0:39 marene sorry I should know by years
0:43 now um
0:45 Paul uh Mary
0:48 Stevens maybe coming uh Martha gther
0:52 gner and Ryan Olsson
0:56 here that's everybody there for anybody
1:00 uh okay then
1:02 um for approval of minutes I wasn't here
1:05 so I have to abstain but U anybody have
1:08 any uh questions or concerns about the
1:11 last week last month's meeting
1:15 minute okay with that we'll approve them
1:19 uh and now it's time for public
1:24 comments off public comment or just sit
1:26 in no just okay this should be your
1:31 thanks do we have anybody online we
1:33 don't have anyone online for public he
1:36 we are flying through 12 minutes ahead
1:40 now uh regular business uh the park
1:45 system Plan update which is I think
1:47 gonna be presented by
1:50 Robin you over me wow I was fast
2:08 hold
2:26 on sorry technical
2:53 fun all right so time to talk about the
2:56 90% draft review and with us tonight we
2:59 have have L Zang from design Workshop so
3:02 if we have any questions of the
3:03 Consultants please feel free to ask luu
3:05 at the end of the
3:07 presentation um it really does feel like
3:09 we've hit a really big milestone tonight
3:11 you know we've looked at bits and pieces
3:13 of the draft plan and made comments and
3:16 it's finally coming together as a full
3:18 document so tonight we're going to kind
3:20 of review the highlights really quick
3:22 but I want to leave I know we had
3:23 questions that we sent out but I'd like
3:25 to leave more a little bit more time
3:27 tonight for discussion while within our
3:29 40 minutes and then so Brian has a
3:32 chance this
3:33 time um next
3:36 slide oh thank you appreciate it so
3:39 tonight really quick we'll we'll look at
3:41 the plan purpose we'll go through our
3:44 direction for the future uh draft
3:47 chapter outline review again uh Park
3:49 system plan core values we'll look at
3:52 our new concept our plan concept Creeks
3:54 to Peaks uh quick look at our draft
3:57 projects and prioritization crit IA
4:00 again well we'll give you a schedule
4:02 update but I do want to leave a lot of
4:04 time for a discussion and if there's
4:05 something critical as we're going
4:07 through the slides just feel free to
4:08 stop me um and we'll talk about it in a
4:11 little bit more
4:14 detail okay so I kind of want to go back
4:17 over our purpose of a park system plan
4:20 and why are we doing this kind of our
4:22 our who what why of the plan and really
4:25 these plans are created and updated
4:27 every six years um mainly so we remain
4:31 eligible for uh state and federal grants
4:34 it's really important that they like the
4:36 grant officers will be looking at this
4:38 document to make sure that we have
4:40 guidelines we have Master plans and we
4:42 have a direction and vision for the park
4:44 system plan um also at the same time
4:47 we're doing our goals and policies which
4:49 are part of the comprehensive plan
4:51 element there's a park recreation
4:53 element so that's I don't know if you
4:55 remember months ago that's kind of where
4:57 we started a little bit with our
4:59 classification and our goals just to
5:01 make sure that uh the goals we had set
5:04 in 2018 are being carried over see what
5:06 we want to change we made a lot of a few
5:09 really good tweaks in there that I'm
5:11 really excited to start
5:12 implementing um it's also we this is a
5:15 really good check with the community it
5:18 guides the community's goals and Visions
5:20 for the park system so we've gone out
5:23 and we've done um several surveys a
5:25 mapping exercise and just continually
5:28 ask for feedback about about what we're
5:30 developing what you are commenting on um
5:33 and what the community would would like
5:34 to see in the future um it also
5:37 establishes a level of service for the
5:39 park system uh establishes how the park
5:43 system is functioning right now and how
5:45 we want to function in the future and um
5:48 trying to see what the community needs
5:50 are coming
5:51 up uh and it also provides a vision and
5:54 direction for Capital Investments um you
5:57 know as I said in the agenda we're going
5:59 to be looking at um the project list and
6:03 our prioritization and criteria so this
6:05 helps establish that helps clarify it so
6:09 the park planners in the city has a a
6:11 good direction to go in that we know
6:13 that the community supports and can get
6:17 behind and just to reiterate it is not a
6:20 budget document but it helps us develop
6:22 that Capital Improvement
6:25 plan okay so this was on page 12
6:31 the of the plan and this kind of
6:34 condenses a lot of the highlights of the
6:37 plans um and gives us a good look at our
6:40 direction of the future so we have our
6:42 overall Vision uh we can't do anything
6:45 unless we know where we're going and we
6:46 have a good Vision uh we're looking at
6:49 our plan a new plan concept with creeks
6:51 to Peaks uh very important are our core
6:54 values that keep uh resonating
6:57 throughout the plan and resonating in
6:59 our goals and
7:00 policies uh we're going to take a look
7:02 at the goal statements again you know
7:04 we've heard some feedback that maybe we
7:06 need to tweak these a little bit more so
7:08 I'd like to get your input um and your
7:11 take on those uh We've developed
7:14 strategies and then most importantly
7:17 implementation as well because if we
7:18 can't Implement these then our vision
7:21 doesn't hold for the
7:26 future let's see okay trying to do two
7:29 slide that once here okay just looking
7:32 at the plan overall we have our
7:34 executive summary the plan highlights
7:37 like I just went over a little bit more
7:39 detail in there in chapter one we gave
7:41 you the introduction chapter two our
7:44 Park system evaluation kind of looking
7:46 at our analysis of the system as it is
7:49 right now uh chapter three a big one the
7:51 direction for the future of the park
7:53 system chapter four our
7:56 implementation and then uh the
7:58 appendices after that which you know
8:01 kind of reiterates all our community
8:03 engagement what we've done so far and
8:05 gives you more
8:08 detail but we really want to dig in
8:10 tonight into the core system plan or I'm
8:14 sorry the perk system plan core values
8:16 and again this is one that I'll go
8:18 through each one and kind of give a
8:20 little bit more detail we've heard that
8:22 some people don't understand some of
8:24 these or don't understand how they are
8:26 reflected in a park system or in a park
8:29 itself um so please feel free to jump in
8:34 uh if you see something that needs to be
8:35 tweaked just let us know so um Robin I'm
8:38 gonna pause you yeah Tim you have a
8:41 question oh
8:42 Tim yeah thank you I since you were just
8:45 touching on one of the notes I had made
8:46 from the slide deck that we were sent
8:49 was it was if could you go back one
8:52 slide yeah one of this on the slide deck
8:55 we were sent when I went through it I
8:56 did not see an executive summary and it
8:59 just just made the graph on page nine
9:03 which has the whole outline and arrows
9:06 pointing everywhere and it was hard to
9:08 figure out what that meant without some
9:10 kind of executive summary but here
9:12 you're showing an executive summary and
9:15 uh did I miss it or was it not in the
9:17 deck that we were sent it's I I believe
9:20 it's still in process um after we get
9:24 our final sort of feedback on the main
9:28 four chapters that's going to be written
9:30 so it it's not in the draft document
9:32 that you all have currently is that
9:35 correct
9:38 Liu not exactly um I think um maybe you
9:43 can speak that oh sure the plan yeah
9:47 either you or I can the Plan highlights
9:51 are the executive summary I think this
9:52 was mislabeled on this slide but the
9:54 plan highlights are basically that plus
9:56 you have an introduction that will be
9:58 from the mayor or um at the beginning
10:01 that will be added later so that's
10:03 that's that's accurate you didn't see it
10:05 in the present in the document itself
10:07 because it's been titled plan
10:10 highlights okay uh I can understand that
10:14 I just would like to suggest that as I
10:17 went into it and I obviously have some
10:20 familiarity with it uh I think it's page
10:22 nine there's the map showing all the
10:25 arrows and the pointing and the circles
10:27 and it locks context
10:29 because as I came to this I like wait
10:32 what what is all this uh and I think it
10:35 needs to have uh some kind of summary
10:39 that says hey this is what you know this
10:41 is the overarching goal or this is the
10:44 vision it just hitting that without once
10:47 I went all the way through the 100 pages
10:49 and I came back it's like okay I get it
10:52 but where it's positioned I think is
10:54 confusing to a firsttime reviewer of the
10:57 document uh cuz it context uh and I was
11:01 thinking an executive summary would be a
11:03 good way to sort of introduce this
11:05 without just sticking all these uh
11:08 diagrams up there just my two cents
11:11 worth thought I'd share it yep that's
11:14 there thank
11:16 you thanks oh that's great thanks
11:25 then okay so back to our core value and
11:29 I kind of want to dig into this a little
11:31 bit more and see if you have any more
11:33 questions on these but um I think our
11:36 core values have really evolved
11:38 throughout the public Outreach and
11:39 feedback and now they're resonating in
11:41 each chapter so we made a point to keep
11:43 bringing it back in checking in making
11:46 sure we're hearing from that these
11:48 values are still resonating with the
11:50 community resonating with our projects
11:52 and resonating with our vision in
11:53 general um and if we need to just let me
11:57 know do we need to add more clarity to
11:58 these descriptions or keywords or are
12:01 there aspects to the definition that we
12:04 should touch on or bring more out of but
12:07 I'm going to go through each one kind of
12:08 one by one and kind of let you know a
12:11 little bit more about what we're
12:13 thinking um and if it needs a little bit
12:15 of a tweaking so people can understand
12:18 that a little bit better so um first one
12:21 vibrancy to Foster vibrant spaces that
12:23 enhance social interactions placemaking
12:26 history cultural culture and active
12:28 recre ational
12:30 opportunities and through through the
12:32 feedback through talking to the
12:34 community Through hearing from other
12:35 boards and commissions then we've had
12:38 the question of what is vibrancy I mean
12:40 what is vibrancy in relation to a park
12:42 what is vibrancy in relation to the
12:45 system as a whole and the way we see it
12:47 it's seeing a park that is activated by
12:50 all ages and abilities uh providing
12:53 activities that attract people during
12:54 the day uh sometimes at night depending
12:57 on the park uh for Passive or active
12:59 Recreation purposes it's creating safe
13:02 places for people to interact uh whe
13:05 whether it be recreating socializing
13:08 walking meeting and having lunch or
13:10 dinner it's getting people out and
13:12 having them interact together um people
13:15 are really attracted to Green spaces so
13:17 it's kind of natural for people to
13:19 funnel into them and it's a it tends to
13:21 be a we finding a biological need that
13:24 people need with both a physical and
13:27 mental help um you know we kind
13:30 of just naturally gravitate towards
13:33 these green Open Spaces um also ragy
13:37 means placemaking it's where Park
13:38 elements can tell a story of our culture
13:42 our history incorporating Arts uh it
13:46 reinforces the values and interests the
13:48 community has and can introduce new and
13:50 exciting Elements which make a city very
13:52 unique and iconic I I'm sure we all
13:55 recognize certain Parks or certain
13:57 spaces in other cities that a very
13:59 specific element that resonates with you
14:02 or sticks in your memory um there's
14:05 varied amenities and our goal is to
14:07 incorporate new and interesting
14:09 amenities to give each park again a
14:11 unique look or attraction uh there's an
14:14 ecological aspect to that vibrancy um
14:17 and moving forward our goal is really to
14:20 incorporate best manage management
14:22 practices to enhance uh natural
14:25 functions that are there already or to
14:28 create new ones existing ones in harmony
14:31 um and vibrancy is actually measurable I
14:34 did have this question and when we were
14:37 looking at level of service we actually
14:39 do go out into the parks count how many
14:41 people are there sometimes we look at
14:44 age differences or abilities um
14:47 especially on the trail that's really
14:48 important to know who's on what trails
14:51 how many people are on the trails and
14:53 what trails are the most attractive
14:56 ones does anyone have questions about VI
14:59 or do you think we need to add any more
15:02 into that one I have a small note which
15:04 is just that I'm wondering if that might
15:06 be better instead of enhance social
15:07 interaction to encourage encourage okay
15:10 enhance with a little passive or you
15:13 know add on but
15:15 that encourage encourage something of
15:18 that to draw people yeah to draw it in
15:20 that's
15:21 try okay give it just a little boost
15:25 yeah that's great anybody else
15:31 okay so uh next up resiliency to create
15:34 spaces that are resilient adaptable to
15:37 climate change and preserve protect and
15:39 enhance natural
15:42 resources so resiliency so the feedback
15:45 echoed from the community and from the
15:46 boards we're incorporating more
15:50 sustainability um either the word or you
15:53 know kind of resonating more sustainable
15:55 actions we feel that resiliency really
15:58 does that uh a little bit better for
16:02 us um and we really want to make sure
16:05 we're maintaining and enhancing our
16:06 natural spaces so due to the restrictive
16:09 land available um and more acreage being
16:12 along the Creeks or along critical areas
16:15 or natural areas we're going to need to
16:17 start developing Park designs that
16:20 really integrate new methodologies or
16:22 Technologies uh that are going to marry
16:24 that green infrastructure along with our
16:26 active
16:27 Recreation um we're going to be very
16:29 cognizant of this going forward because
16:31 we know we have to start doing this more
16:33 and more uh climate change is a
16:36 continuous involving process uh so our
16:39 Landscapes are definitely going to be
16:41 need to be more resilient and more self-
16:43 sustaining so again we're going to look
16:45 at natural materials uh native plants
16:48 drought tolerant plants where feasible
16:50 but start prepping our our designs more
16:53 for um that climate change coming up and
16:57 then we want to protect the resources
16:58 that we have that are already high
17:00 quality and Performing and enhance um
17:04 and protect the areas that we have right
17:05 now it's something that we've done very
17:07 well in the past we we want to continue
17:10 doing but now we're going to start
17:12 integrating the two much together much
17:15 better okay do anyone want to add any
17:18 more to
17:20 resiliency or look at it in a different
17:22 way for the park
17:23 [Music]
17:25 system sound good great okay next
17:30 connectivity which is really what our
17:32 our new plan concept is based off of but
17:35 to increase connectivity between Parks
17:37 trails and Open Spaces to encourage an
17:39 equitable safe and walkable Park
17:45 system so as a community we we know we
17:48 appreciate embrace the fact that we can
17:51 walk or bike throughout the city and we
17:53 want to reduce our car carbon footprint
17:55 where possible so our goal is to make it
17:57 even easier to get out into the park
17:59 spaces and our open spaces and make sure
18:02 the system is well connected either
18:04 through Trails through multimodal paths
18:07 we know we're going to have to use
18:08 sidewalks that's going to be a critical
18:10 component to be able to connect those
18:12 two um and then start developing those
18:14 green ways to also connect those green
18:16 spaces together we know it's important
18:19 for habitats migration and Wildlife to
18:21 be able to have that connectivity as
18:25 well and we'll get more into
18:27 connectivity and Creeks to
18:29 but any questions or any additions for
18:34 connectivity okay and finally balance I
18:37 know we've been kind of harping on
18:39 balance and talking about balance a lot
18:41 but it's going to be really really
18:43 important for the system so we did tweak
18:45 and this is why I have an italics we've
18:47 been talking about this a lot and
18:49 hearing that we're not really uh the
18:52 statement isn't resonating as much as it
18:54 should as much as we're talking about
18:56 balance and how it should balance but
18:59 we changes to optimize the potential of
19:02 both recreational elements and the
19:04 natural environment in Harmony in
19:07 current and Future Park areas we want to
19:09 Foster Partnerships and
19:11 relationships to develop better
19:13 alignment for Park needs this is
19:17 kind before and after yes yes so the
19:20 before is maximize the park system
19:23 potential for existing and future spaces
19:27 and Foster Partnerships and Rel
19:28 relationships to expand field and Court
19:31 opportunities so it was
19:33 pretty yeah it was pretty specific on
19:36 the the field and Court opportunities
19:38 we're open to bring that back in if that
19:41 feels like something that that
19:43 Partnerships and relationships should
19:44 really focus on for this one um but the
19:47 maximizing system potential just felt
19:49 like it didn't really say anything about
19:51 what we're actually trying to balance um
19:54 and so that's where we sort of made this
20:03 I like the update I think for me one of
20:06 the things we've been talking about for
20:07 the last six months is that we are a bit
20:09 out of balance and so I think we at
20:12 least need to recognize that we are
20:14 striving to reach that balance not that
20:16 we're already there so I think that for
20:18 me is the piece we need to watch out for
20:20 like if you read back into the data
20:22 right of like what our percent of active
20:24 versus non-active looks like in
20:25 comparison to our benchmarks we're not
20:28 there
20:29 so I don't want to lose that fact that
20:31 in this six year plan we redo it every
20:33 six years that we're trying to restore
20:35 balance back
20:42 okay so do you think like just the term
20:45 rebalance or something simar needs to be
20:47 in there to say we are kind of swinging
20:52 back but I think like the intention that
20:54 I liked about the other one is it was
20:56 over about what we're changing okay
20:58 right when you have a vision especially
21:00 if it's a sixth year it's not like this
21:01 live is forever it's like our
21:03 overarching vision which is more like
21:05 which I think this is the overall Vision
21:07 that you want to be in Balance you want
21:08 to optimize it but what we need to do in
21:10 this next six years is refocus what we
21:13 have been
21:14 underfunding so I want to make sure that
21:16 we're clear okay at least from my
21:18 perspective okay do you think that mean
21:21 that we need to go back to our vision
21:23 statement
21:27 also I'm okay with like these are the
21:29 core values I like that but I think we
21:32 need to then be stronger somewhere and
21:33 what's hard about this document to be
21:35 really honest is it's real heavy on the
21:37 brand and the vision and kind of light
21:40 on like tactical plans at least or it's
21:43 you gotta really hunt you know where
21:45 they are to find them and so one of the
21:47 big changes I think this group has been
21:50 recommending is a focus on active
21:52 recreation parks and so however we get
21:55 that communicated in a way that doesn't
21:57 get lost is what I'm looking for okay
22:01 and from what I'm hearing from the
22:02 community it's not just the board it's
22:04 the community saying the same thing I we
22:06 do yeah need to balance our active
22:08 Recreation we're again we're doing
22:10 awesome and we're doing really well with
22:12 open space and conservation efforts and
22:14 now let's put a little bit more focus
22:16 into our Act of recreation and support
22:19 that a little more
22:21 too okay no great
22:24 feedback before we leave this page I
22:27 just going back one but on resiliency
22:30 does that include uh life cycle
22:33 resiliency or maintenance you know how
22:36 long stuff will endure that we invest in
22:39 oh definitely and that's something I
22:40 really work with operations on um
22:43 because really they're they're the kind
22:44 of the first level stewards of our Park
22:47 system and if they can't maintain it
22:49 then in my opinion we don't have a
22:51 success with so really we're looking at
22:53 that that
22:54 longevity uh how it's maintained and and
22:58 we go that later the document it sort of
23:01 gets pulled in within our our goals and
23:04 strategies and then our our policies as
23:06 well um within the the comprehensive
23:10 plan um but maybe something worth noting
23:14 to add here
23:16 in I don't have the words coming to me
23:18 right now but right right and that's
23:20 definitely part of the project
23:21 prioritization and criteria is that
23:25 operational you need to make sure it's
23:27 we're all not here we don't remember
23:29 this in two or three years use this
23:32 hopefully to
23:33 prioritize right like that's like we're
23:35 using to prioritize and Anna yeah the
23:39 goals that fall under these themes are
23:42 incredibly important and goal f is
23:44 maintenance and stewardship that follows
23:46 that follows with a look at resiliency
23:49 and like their life cycle so that goal F
23:53 has all the howto and the strategies
23:55 engaged with that um you'll see that in
23:57 one of the chat chapters here but the
24:00 goals follow right
24:02 underneath um these uh planning
24:05 principles the core
24:09 values and again ties back into our
24:11 level of service and the quality and
24:13 functionality of that Park and
24:15 maintaining that at a high level so it
24:18 adds to the system versus
24:20 detracting
24:23 10 thanks yeah I'd like to just follow
24:26 up on sort of the initial comment about
24:28 the wording of this um it it just seems
24:32 kind of uh mushy and what I mean is you
24:35 know you have optimized the potential
24:37 I'm not sure what that means and then in
24:39 harmony I'd rather have a a more direct
24:42 clear you know
24:45 uh statement without those sort of uh
24:49 fuzzy words in it it's
24:51 just from my background in science and
24:54 engineering
24:56 um and after you reward that so that
25:00 it's a little more
25:03 direct I wonder it it's obviously a
25:06 talized the other ones aren't and is the
25:08 formatting is it are you trying to
25:10 highlight that that's more important
25:12 because so
25:13 therez italicizing it because it's a
25:16 chain from what's in the original
25:18 document the draft document that you all
25:20 received oh
25:22 okay okay well yeah I think that the
25:25 wording needs to be played with a little
25:27 bit just to be a little more direct uh
25:30 in terms of what you're really trying to
25:31 say there because I think those words
25:35 are kind of soft and I'd like to see
25:38 some more clarity around what that's
25:41 really the intention that you're trying
25:43 to drive through there um so that's my
25:47 two cents on that
25:50 one good feedback thank you yeah yeah
25:52 that's
25:56 great so next we going to move on to our
25:59 new plan concept of The Creeks to Peaks
26:02 and I know we've been talking about this
26:04 a lot but just to reiterate that uh
26:07 we're really rebranding and expanding
26:09 the green necklace so it goes uh Vision
26:12 the vision goes Citywide of how we want
26:15 to connect our parks and trails to make
26:17 this a more walkable and Safe Community
26:20 uh we realize that it it will take
26:21 multi- Department effort and
26:23 coordination to make that happen we're
26:25 not going to work on this in as Silo by
26:27 any means
26:29 um and we realize that Partnerships are
26:31 going to be needed you know we've been
26:33 talking a lot about Partnerships and
26:35 because of our land constrain uh
26:37 Community we're going to need school
26:40 districts we're going to need uh other
26:42 agency Partnerships to make that active
26:44 Recreation piece
26:46 happen um and we really want to look at
26:49 within Creeks of peaks look at Key
26:51 functions of the park system uh the
26:53 connected connectivity and walkability
26:56 our quality of life
26:58 uh making sure it's healthy sustainable
27:01 and we have a resilient natural system
27:03 we're fostering social connections we're
27:06 celebrating our cultural piece and our
27:08 art components um but really this is a a
27:12 big jump off and a big take off from
27:15 from the original green necklace so
27:17 we're excited that people are getting
27:18 excited about that is there anything
27:21 else you feel we need to explain about
27:22 creeks to Peaks to get that going or or
27:25 support that a little bit more um um do
27:29 you like our draft vision statement I
27:31 know we've been looking at this and
27:32 tweaking it quite a bit here and there
27:34 um but we've kind of settled on a
27:36 diverse res resilient system of parks
27:39 trails and Open Spaces that Fosters
27:42 connections between people and the
27:43 places they cherish from Creeks along
27:46 the valley floor through neighborhoods
27:48 and wooded hillsides to the peaks of the
27:51 isaa
27:55 outs how does that sound everyone still
27:58 still I have a good question so the park
28:01 system itself is already made up of
28:03 parks trails and open space right I
28:06 don't think you need to repeat it you're
28:08 saying a diverse resilient system of
28:10 parks blah blah blah I think you should
28:13 just say like remove all that and just
28:16 say Foster connections between the
28:18 people and the places they cherish from
28:20 The Creeks to the Peaks I feel like it's
28:22 too wordy a little too wordy yeah just
28:25 for okay what is a park system already
28:29 is a diverse and resilience system right
28:31 don't you're you're telling us again
28:33 what it is we don't need to know that
28:36 right I just feel like it's it just it's
28:40 just it just get I'm like mumbled it's
28:42 like too much for me I'm so you know
28:45 okay maybe just try to make it a little
28:47 crisper a
28:49 crisper I don't know kind of going back
28:51 to what Tim was saying about our our
28:53 statement for balance just a little bit
28:55 more direct and upfront yeah
28:58 okay yeah the point I might add to that
29:02 is sometimes people we do get asked
29:04 sometimes what all counts in parks and
29:06 sometimes people forget that Open Spaces
29:08 are part of the park system so that's
29:10 just something to think about as we're
29:14 communicating not everybody is thinks of
29:16 those things as part of the
29:19 parks and really for this it's it's
29:22 Recreation is a huge part of the park
29:24 system but really we're focused on the
29:27 parks the as an open space it's not
29:29 necessarily the recreation with this
29:31 plan not that it's not coming it's
29:33 coming
29:36 but my
29:42 mind okay oh good feedback that's
29:48 great
29:50 okay and next um I know one of our last
29:54 meetings we really dug into our draft
29:57 project both are near Mid and long-term
29:59 projects um and looked at the
30:03 prioritization criteria and those eight
30:06 criteria um is there anything I know we
30:08 went over those before and we do have uh
30:11 number six operational maintenance and
30:14 Longevity as part of that criteria and
30:16 we ran every single project through
30:19 these eight criteria and that's how we
30:20 came up with our initial list uh one
30:22 thing feedback that we did hear last
30:25 time is fewer projects larger projects
30:29 but finish those projects so that's
30:32 definitely a goal Julie and I and the
30:34 team are are striving for right now and
30:36 moving as fast as we can um but is there
30:40 anything in those projects or in that uh
30:43 criteria that you feel we need to change
30:46 or revisit or look at one more
30:51 time and again this just helps us
30:53 develop our 2-year CIP plan or six-year
30:57 CIP plan but really it's intended to be
30:59 a 20year Outlook so we can really start
31:02 looking at the system more holistically
31:05 and start setting pieces in
31:08 place gives us a good Vision a good M
31:11 sort of master plan for us to look
31:16 at great so we just want to update you
31:20 on the timeline we are in Late July
31:23 already time is flying pretty fast uh I
31:27 I believe public comment closes tomorrow
31:31 tomorrow we'll hear back from the boards
31:33 by the 31st all the boards uh then we're
31:36 planning to go back to
31:38 council soon after that I know we have a
31:40 SE process checklist that we have to go
31:42 through but we are wrapping everything
31:45 up right now so hopefully we'll have an
31:48 approved plan within the next few
31:51 months just a quick word
31:54 Smithy the last slide yeah when looking
31:57 at the prioritization criteria
32:00 yes number three I think it should be
32:05 balance within vibrancy and connectivity
32:07 because if you say balance of you're
32:09 comparing vibrancy and connectivity
32:11 against each other does that make sense
32:13 or I just
32:14 crazy you're not crazy that makes sense
32:17 that does make sense because yeah it's
32:20 not a choice it's not in Nei or right we
32:24 initially have resiliency in there but
32:26 we thought that was so important they
32:28 come out but yeah no
32:30 first now it's within
32:33 yeah thank you we look at these so long
32:37 that just like little
32:42 detail
32:46 okay so I know we sent out these
32:48 questions ahead of time but we really
32:51 like to get your take on what plan goal
32:55 or policy are you excited to implement
32:57 in the future
32:58 um are there tools in the plan that will
33:00 help you as a board in your future in
33:02 your work um and is there anything that
33:05 needs to be changed in the plan for you
33:07 to uh make a recommendation for
33:11 adoption I'll open it up to everybody
33:14 for
33:14 discussion we can also sort of rewind
33:17 and if there are
33:19 larger comments or questions you have
33:21 about the plan document as it currently
33:24 stands um or here we have our
33:26 Consultants online as well to help
33:29 answer any clarifying questions um and
33:32 and take any of your feedback and if you
33:33 do have you know any board smithing
33:37 smithing things we can totally make note
33:39 of them but if there's you know more
33:41 we're happy to take that um by email as
33:43 well the next couple
33:46 days I'll put that up let's tackle the
33:49 first one um are there plan goals or
33:52 policies that there you you seem excited
33:54 to implement in the future or what are
33:56 you most excited
34:03 that I may sort of steal some Thunder
34:07 from people
34:09 but I from my perspective the the
34:12 overall plan you know
34:15 I can appreciate that it has the
34:18 flexible and sort of softer language in
34:21 there because it's got to have a lot of
34:22 room for something that is going to
34:24 happen in the future and we don't know
34:25 what the conditions are going to be uh I
34:28 bet that most of us here you know show
34:32 up and sign up and
34:35 join part of that you know the one slide
34:39 let's see on the agenda it's slide seven
34:43 and it's the picture of the couple with
34:45 the kid in the swing but the fourth
34:47 bullet says provides vision and
34:49 direction for capital investment and
34:51 budget decisions on projects for the
34:53 next six
34:54 years that's the most exciting thing for
34:57 me is is to to see what we
34:59 can manage to afford and you know
35:04 motivate and spur on and then hopefully
35:07 have accomplished in in our
35:09 terms so that that's really the most
35:12 exciting part to me that one bullet item
35:15 execution
35:16 AR see it
35:19 happen we're excited too
35:23 yeah well knowing that this is also a
35:26 20e vision and not our you know six-year
35:29 CIP it's not our two-year budget it's
35:32 not an actual funded Capital project but
35:35 it's helping us get to that Vision it's
35:38 that funnel that we've been talking
35:40 about of bringing it down to those
35:43 levels so yeah we're with you on that
35:47 one as
35:48 well I just have a positive comment that
35:51 I'm excited as a new person here say I
35:53 just moved to this town that seeing that
35:55 this is what the town is wanting and
35:57 we're to go like I wanted a walkable vid
36:01 very social Community is what I came
36:05 here for and so that is I'm seeing that
36:08 in this document and it's making me
36:09 excited and happy to have moved
36:12 here say so I like what I'm seeing in
36:16 this you know obviously there's a lot
36:18 here a lot to digest but the overall
36:20 vision is very positive for me as a new
36:23 CER
36:25 okay one thing I see about it that I
36:27 think is supporting the city and I
36:29 really want to push as hard as we can is
36:32 to preserve and protect and enhance
36:34 natural resources I actually wondered as
36:37 I read through it I at the end should we
36:41 talk more about what we're doing our
36:43 streams our trees how are we doing it
36:46 that is to me Biggest
36:48 Part par system oh that's good yeah yeah
36:53 um I can speak to that a little bit we
36:56 some of that will
36:58 covered within our Urban Forest
36:59 management plan um that Dan hin
37:03 presented at the last meeting so these
37:05 two documents are are really living
37:07 together with each other um so some of
37:10 that level of detail is definitely in
37:12 that document but there there might be
37:14 room here to sort of speak to that a
37:17 little bit more one in the big plan like
37:20 on page like
37:21 33 right like that's where you hit
37:24 pretty hard the different climate change
37:27 wildlife habitat so I'd be curious if
37:29 there's more that we think to add to to
37:32 that component or do you feel like that
37:34 is hitting strong I I actually that's
37:36 what brought it to my mind yes I think
37:38 it I think it's that we're talking about
37:41 what makes you most excited and I want
37:43 to that is to me
37:49 what that's great yeah that's a big part
37:51 of the community
37:58 okay is there a tool in the plan to help
38:00 you as a board in the future or in your
38:04 work
38:07 10 hi thank you yeah so I think just
38:10 having this plan laid out this well is a
38:12 great Tool uh for working with in the
38:17 future it's updated it's fresh it's
38:20 current and uh I think having that to
38:23 keep in mind as we go into the next you
38:27 know year two years three years is a
38:29 wonderful uh it's a wonderful thing to
38:32 lean back into uh so I I appreciate how
38:37 much effort's gone into sort of laying
38:39 out this vision and bringing in all the
38:42 information and all the integration but
38:44 I'd also like to Echo the first comment
38:47 about what really gets me excited is the
38:49 fact is breaking ground making changes
38:52 seeing actual implementation of the plan
38:56 uh the plan's great but we're when it
39:00 the rubber hits the road and we actually
39:02 see physical changes that uh are going
39:06 to enhance our community you know that's
39:09 what gets me excited so like I said
39:12 overall I think just this whole tool is
39:14 a great foundation for the board and uh
39:18 I look forward to working with it in the
39:20 future and I have one minor comment I'd
39:25 like to just put out there there's
39:27 acronym in the slides that we were sent
39:31 NGP and it's in there multiple times I
39:35 don't know what it means and as far as I
39:37 could tell it's not defined anywhere in
39:39 the document so you might want to go
39:42 back in and Define that at some point U
39:44 because it's in there multiple times um
39:48 yeah that's it for now thanks um it
39:51 should be in the overview page um in the
39:55 first chapter I can find it out later um
40:00 but
40:02 yeah okay and it's native growth
40:06 protection native growth
40:09 protection
40:11 easement that is encumbered to remain
40:16 native perpetuity
40:19 yeah so both a spelling out of what it
40:22 is and a
40:24 definition for all of us I mean I don't
40:27 yeah it's in the plan page
40:30 21 um in the part I searched a document
40:34 for it and I couldn't find a definition
40:36 but maybe it is there oh that's good
40:39 that's good we should probably add that
40:41 in that's a key
40:43 component
40:45 open okay real quick if you can just
40:49 flip to page 13 of the draft document
40:54 the document itself yeah give me one 13
40:58 on the PDF or
41:01 uh yeah there's two different the one
41:04 with the funnel that sure
41:07 implementation
41:17 yeah yeah 13 of 107 oh sorry it's PDF
41:22 page 15 PDF 15 think the slide numb
41:24 slide numbers 13
41:35 the only reason why I wanted to bring
41:37 this up is because you like I suggested
41:40 I think all of us are here really eager
41:43 to work in that green
41:45 area and right now we're we are floating
41:49 around in the more ethereal Orange area
41:52 we are up here it's a necessity to get
41:55 us further down the funnel
41:58 [Music]
42:01 correct do you feel like breaking out
42:03 that that green piece a little bit more
42:05 and being a little more I know I'm not
42:07 suggesting any revision
42:10 I'm commenting on where we are in the
42:13 big picture where everyone sorry where
42:17 all of us probably really want to be
42:18 which is you know shovels in the ground
42:21 you know photos of shovels
42:24 maybe St yes
42:29 that's an exciting moment knowing we're
42:31 about to construct
42:34 something okay and then we just I know
42:37 we're running out of time and I want
42:39 actually give Brian time this time um
42:42 we'll hit the last question one more
42:47 time there we go okay is there anything
42:50 that needs to be changed in the plan for
42:52 you to recommend it for adoption
42:55 anything we need to really look at
42:58 revise or
43:01 change enhance it
43:13 all I'm sorry did you call
43:17 me oh your hand is up did yeah yeah okay
43:20 I it broke up though I wasn't sure whose
43:22 name you said um yeah so I brought this
43:26 up before and it's obviously not my call
43:28 but my recommendation is on when you
43:31 look at the uh the planning for the
43:33 different upcoming projects on slide 90
43:37 of the deck we were sent uh Hillside
43:40 Park uh another phase of Hillside Park
43:44 improvements is listed for the near
43:47 term and uh literally we haven't yet
43:51 Broken Ground on what's going to be done
43:54 at Hillside park yet and there was
43:58 significant uh Community push back on
44:01 making those kinds of changes and I
44:04 think having Hillside Park
44:07 another portion of it be done before
44:10 we've even started what's happening
44:15 now is um a little bit overly ambitious
44:19 so yeah
44:20 that's yeah Hillside Park number six
44:24 it's under the
44:25 near-term uh I would push it back a
44:28 level to just let what's going to be
44:31 done maybe starting very soon but let
44:35 what's going to be done settle before we
44:39 start in with another project at
44:42 Hillside park
44:43 because those of us that have been here
44:45 for a while know there was some
44:47 resistance and uh there will be probably
44:51 more resistance I don't know but that
44:54 would be my recommendation to move that
44:56 down a level
44:57 and that's all it's obviously not my
45:00 call and if everyone wants to keep it
45:02 there that's fine but um food for
45:08 thought the is the list in chological
45:11 order like
45:15 that7 like no it was alphabetical order
45:20 yeah not
45:22 chronological oh sorry
45:28 question should it be in is that I'm
45:32 guessing that is by design that you
45:33 don't want to take a stand yet Oni yeah
45:36 I mean we don't know what's gonna end up
45:39 being fully funded within the two years
45:44 of these six-year near-term projects um
45:47 what might end up being you know more
45:51 doable in that time frame um which is
45:55 why it's it's the one to six year sort
45:58 of project not
46:02 specific that's kind of why we we added
46:05 that complexity component too we know
46:07 some of the longer term projects really
46:09 need to start in the near term to get
46:12 them moving and get them through the
46:13 feasibility and
46:17 analys I just I you guys know that I
46:20 always feel like we put too many things
46:21 on this
46:22 list and are we not going to be able to
46:25 prioritize is it 10 things in the near
46:28 term or you're going to be like oh no
46:30 tipet's too complicated let's kick that
46:32 one so that's what I'm worried about be
46:34 totally honest
46:39 with I think that's part of why we did
46:41 bump tibits up 10 year
46:43 term um that's a huge part of the
46:46 community feedback and we've heard that
46:49 over and over that people would like to
46:50 see to that the master plan finished up
46:53 or re
46:54 re-envisioned and again that's a high
46:56 complexity project so that's why we do
46:58 want to put that up in your term and get
47:00 that started as soon as
47:02 possible I'm just can we do
47:07 T good
47:10 point you guys know you're
47:15 B feels like a lot to
47:18 me hi everyone sorry I'm little bit late
47:21 missed the presentation uh just came
47:23 back from city council me really good
47:25 discussion great question Marlene
47:28 I would say in in a best case scenario
47:31 yes 10 or 11 is doable in the near term
47:34 I think practically and understanding um
47:38 it might be really hard to get to all of
47:39 these in in six years um especially
47:43 completing them as as Robin said there's
47:45 a degree of complexity with these but um
47:49 I want to hearken back to the 2018 plan
47:52 and and sorry I missed this conversation
47:55 and if you want to know how this is used
47:57 as a tool please take the time and and
47:59 look at that page where we list the 2018
48:02 accomplishments because I think what
48:04 you'll see in that is a lot got done and
48:09 as we prioritize near Mid and long term
48:11 it's not as if okay this these near-term
48:14 projects are the only thing we're going
48:15 to work on but it really becomes a guid
48:17 poost for us to begin prioritizing that
48:20 six-year Capital Improvement plan um
48:24 knowing that there are there are things
48:27 we don't fully understand yet as as we
48:29 go into these projects um will they be
48:33 the ones that if that you whatever that
48:36 near-term list is that is recommended
48:39 will become our um primary targets for
48:43 the for the near- term yes absolutely
48:47 uh I would say 10 is more doable if you
48:50 we were very intentional um the 2018
48:53 plan had more in the near term than this
48:55 one does so uh trying to I think be be
48:59 practical and and pragmatic but um and
49:03 and respond to the community right this
49:05 this is based upon a lot of community
49:07 feedback um we have a diverse community
49:10 that wants a diverse set of things
49:12 within the park system and so we're
49:14 trying to we're trying to Comm
49:16 communicate a lot in this near-term
49:18 midterm long-term list that isn't
49:20 necessarily
49:23 just what can we get done and not get
49:26 done
49:27 actually it's 11 plus three that aren't
49:30 numbered you guys are
49:35 tricky SL oh is that the
49:38 operational yeah there well there's the
49:41 um Isa School District uh field
49:46 collaboration the first location um
49:52 and
49:55 yeah that's those don't have specific
49:58 locations which is why they're not
49:59 numbered because the numbers actually
50:02 correspond to the map that's earlier in
50:05 the in the plan document so they don't
50:07 have a number because there's not a
50:08 place for them on the map not because
50:10 they're not a numbered
50:12 project
50:16 14 um this is the
50:19 2018 plan accomplishments um
50:29 14 and
50:35 then 17 that we sort of felt like we hit
50:40 from that 2018 plan um some of these are
50:44 ongoing these three
50:47 specifically um Urban Forest our
50:49 donation bench program and operations
50:52 and maintenance improvements um but
50:58 there's a lot of Acquisitions on there
50:59 which definitely
51:02 take sort of
51:04 upfront work and lots of but there's not
51:07 a lot of like ground to like break and
51:10 things to do there right permitting Etc
51:13 none of that kind of stuff happens right
51:16 the global pandemic you know and so as
51:18 as you read that you'll see you know
51:20 that there was a pretty big thing that
51:23 the city navigated that completely
51:24 shifted our Park planning fol Focus but
51:27 um your points well taken and again
51:29 really good um feedback my my
51:32 referencing the 2018 accomplishments is
51:35 is realizing this is a plan that does
51:38 put a big foot forward in terms of what
51:39 our Capital priorities are but it's also
51:42 a a bigger document that sets priorities
51:46 and Community feedback based on
51:47 community feedback Beyond just capital
51:50 projects and so I don't I love all the
51:54 projects
51:56 me WR I think it's a great question to
51:58 ask and you're absolutely right I I
52:00 think to to think success is completing
52:04 all 14 of those in six years that's not
52:06 going to happen it's not going to happen
52:09 but is that set does that set our North
52:12 Star for the projects and the
52:14 compilation and diversity of projects
52:16 that this community would like to see
52:19 done another big governor in all this is
52:22 funding right so so any Capital project
52:25 the three governor are time resources
52:29 and staff resources and
52:32 money and there's not enough funding to
52:35 accomplish all 14 of those in six years
52:38 and so it really is a again a vision we
52:41 provide to the community and then to say
52:43 hey the the rate with which we get these
52:45 things done will be dictated by funding
52:49 and staff and and
52:52 time I personally like setting big Gos
52:55 in a thing like this
52:57 more you know because you don't know
52:58 what's going to go through having
53:00 everything out there that you're trying
53:01 to do is I feel often you get further
53:05 along than if you cut it down too early
53:08 you
53:09 know so I do think it's like convincing
53:11 as much as possible but I still think a
53:13 good list
53:16 that trying for the big big to do it all
53:20 if you
53:21 can we have heard loud and clear tibits
53:24 Valley Park is a priority we agree that
53:27 that Park needs a new vision this park
53:29 we're we're in it we're in part of this
53:31 park needs a vision that really sets a
53:34 course for um its neighborhood about to
53:38 change or in process of changing and so
53:41 this park needs to be ready for that
53:44 that is a high high priority and
53:46 something we'll be seeking funding for
53:48 as we head into the
53:50 2526 budget proc so on that note then
53:54 brought tiit if you go page 52 and 52 on
54:00 the actual key after I think
54:04 50 of the slide deck so I look at level
54:08 of service more a Performance Based
54:10 level of service my question is if
54:12 Central Parks a four how can tibits
54:15 Valley be a
54:19 3.6 and I'm worried the reason I'm
54:21 worried about this is because the price
54:23 tag of tibits is going to be outrageous
54:25 it's going to be huge
54:26 if I'm on the city council am I like
54:30 between a four and a 3.6 and you want to
54:32 spend that kind of money like tell me
54:34 why and so I think I'm just kind of
54:37 curious why we think Tippets is a
54:39 36 it's a great it's a great comparison
54:42 and probably something we need to
54:44 revisit because I would agree
54:46 anecdotally that that Park probably is
54:47 not
54:49 performing at at that close of a level
54:51 to Central no and I think it'll long
54:53 term like I just don't want something
54:55 like that to come in the real
54:58 later
55:02 a seasonal I think it's a failing the
55:06 park works pretty well in the summer it
55:08 works fine in the summer but it's a
55:09 seasonal Park
55:12 versus would
55:14 you something we talk about is St a
55:16 community park shouldn't rely on
55:18 scheduled activities to fill up corre
55:20 and currently that Park is completely
55:22 dependent upon scheduled activities and
55:25 the reason it's not being
55:26 realized that's the reasons we need
55:29 toest because it exactly exactly there
55:31 is that that correlation so it's it's
55:33 def that's a great it's a great catch
55:35 it's probably worth us just looking at
55:37 the those variables again yeah I think
55:39 adding That Into You know that variable
55:42 and while while we're going through that
55:43 level of service handal that maybe we
55:46 need to add that per in what we're
55:49 evaluating
55:50 again oh great good
55:56 great okay I
55:58 think we're
56:00 we time unfortunately I'll let Bri come
56:04 but oh this is great and and like s said
56:06 if you have any other feedback or any
56:08 other questions or tweaks that you want
56:10 to make please feel free to email
56:13 those thank you so much and thank you
56:15 for all your hard work I know we've
56:17 looked at a lot of data a lot of
56:19 information but it's finally coming
56:22 together nicely
56:28 guys thank you thank you
56:32 lot we're still on
56:35 schedule we're
56:37 doing I Chris just keeps the schedule
56:40 down we're good we're good usually we
56:44 just last three minutes yeah true
56:48 um so next item on agenda is uh
56:52 enhancing Recreation programs is that
56:55 right
56:57 sorry I saw presented by Jeff Watling
56:59 but then I knew it was a Brian this is
57:01 mle Brian I I'll I'll te it out but let
57:04 uh the real Recreation expert uh speak
57:07 to this so uh good evening thanks for
57:09 letting us um bring this before you we
57:12 know um we've missed a a quarterly
57:14 report for our Recreation team uh
57:16 they've been doing amazing amazing work
57:19 uh we thought um we take advantage of a
57:21 s of a Time opportunity here to give you
57:23 an update on Recreation um a little
57:26 context of this presentation Brian and I
57:27 are giving this presentation to the city
57:30 council committee the services safety
57:32 and Parks committee tomorrow night um
57:35 the reason we're doing that is one of
57:38 every year within our Citywide work plan
57:41 the mayor identifies sort of her top
57:43 five or six work plan items and one of
57:46 those top items that she identified this
57:47 year was was this topic of enhancing
57:50 Recreation programs and knowing if you
57:53 look at sort of even before the pandemic
57:56 but really after the pandemic uh the
57:58 recreation team has doing been doing a
57:59 lot a lot of review how do we offer
58:03 things what do we offer um and how are
58:06 we constantly on this journey of
58:08 enhancing Rec programs so what you're
58:10 going to hear tonight is really an
58:11 overview of of that pardon some of the
58:14 slides you might see some of the
58:16 questions posed are framed as if because
58:19 they are going to city council members
58:22 um maybe an opportunity as you're
58:24 hearing this and and sort of seeing this
58:26 practice run um you see how we really
58:29 pose questions to council uh we did this
58:31 exact a very similar update uh last
58:34 month when we took the park system Plan
58:36 update to to council committee so um
58:39 this won't be an item we're asking
58:40 action for tonight with you it's not an
58:42 action item that we're necessarily
58:44 asking Council for uh but there is a set
58:47 of questions we'd love your feedback on
58:48 it just you know is this presentation
58:50 clear uh what What's the sense you're
58:53 getting we did a big Recreation survey
58:55 this past summer and starting to dive
58:57 into some of the data with this feedback
58:59 but happy to provide all that that
59:01 survey info to all of you as well so
59:04 with that intro next
59:05 [Music]
59:09 slide R is this one go forward
59:15 yeah my computer oh I
59:19 have I'll just do it
59:22 here wow I figured I assuming user error
59:28 awesome so as Parks Community Services
59:31 Department I think you've heard me share
59:34 this a couple of times uh we do a lot of
59:36 things uh but it really boils down to
59:38 two core values and two core purposes
59:41 that drive our entire department and
59:43 that's we invest in places with the
59:46 stewards of isest parks trails and Open
59:48 Spaces just like we talked about with
59:49 the system plan as well as four very
59:52 unique Recreation facilities um and then
59:55 we invest in people so it's really that
59:58 essence of places and people that drive
1:00:00 what we do um the recreation team as
1:00:03 you're here tonight um are the managers
1:00:05 of those four Recreation buildings the
1:00:07 community center the pool the senior
1:00:09 center and the Pickering Barn um and so
1:00:12 much of what the recreation team does is
1:00:14 really focused on people um and the
1:00:17 programs and services that they provide
1:00:20 pretty amazing team um I'm going to turn
1:00:22 it over to Brian to talk through this
1:00:25 journey we've done on this year but also
1:00:27 the last the last couple of years so
1:00:29 take it away Brian yeah thank you yeah
1:00:31 for those don't Brian B with the uh you
1:00:34 service I'm Recreation manager so I work
1:00:36 with teams like Jeff I said the
1:00:38 community center pool Senior Center be
1:00:40 barn and the athletic and bfield
1:00:43 Rental um and for the record I was here
1:00:46 for a quar of the update you reminds sit
1:00:50 but I ran out time I didn't get time to
1:00:52 put my present I had my presentation
1:00:54 ready we get time time as my so I'm like
1:00:57 yes that's what it was I sit like I feel
1:01:00 like I was
1:01:03 here was awesome so thank you for that
1:01:06 reminder that was funny uh if you go
1:01:08 next slide please really quickly that'd
1:01:10 be great thank you uh the purpose size
1:01:12 presentation is provide an update and
1:01:14 seek input from the park board switch
1:01:16 the services and Safety Committee on
1:01:18 that one on the framework and key
1:01:20 elements of the 2024 work plan
1:01:22 initiative of enhancing Recreation
1:01:24 programs uh we go to the next slide uh
1:01:28 tonight we'll be presenting a lot of
1:01:30 information um and what we'll be asking
1:01:32 from you is feedback on two primary
1:01:35 questions uh those two questions are is
1:01:37 there any additional feedback for staff
1:01:39 to consider while conducting further
1:01:41 internal review and Gathering resident
1:01:43 input about City Recreation programs and
1:01:45 services and the second question is as
1:01:48 we plan for the 2025 B 25 26 budget
1:01:52 cycle are there any considerations or
1:01:54 priorities you would like for us to
1:01:55 address in our ongoing efforts to
1:01:57 enhance Recreation programs we will
1:02:00 bring this slide up again at the end
1:02:01 when we start discussing these two
1:02:03 questions so we don't have to you don't
1:02:04 have to
1:02:05 memorize uh if you don't mind going to
1:02:07 the next slide thank
1:02:09 you uh following is an overview of the
1:02:13 uh presentation topics for tonight's
1:02:14 discussion uh first I'll be discussing
1:02:17 who we are and providing an overview of
1:02:19 the Recreation services division then
1:02:21 I'll be providing a brief overview of
1:02:23 modifications made to our operational
1:02:25 procedures
1:02:26 I'm also going to share some of the
1:02:28 changes and enhancements we've recently
1:02:30 made to some of our programs next we'll
1:02:33 spend some time looking at our community
1:02:35 outreach and Survey results finally
1:02:38 we'll take uh we'll talk about our steps
1:02:40 moving
1:02:46 forward I've actually presented this
1:02:48 similarly to you before about what our
1:02:51 divisions are but I will do it again
1:02:52 really quickly um often Recreation
1:02:55 services a lot More Than People realize
1:02:57 um yeah I can't tell you how many times
1:02:59 I've done out talking with the public
1:03:00 and they like wait you guys do that yeah
1:03:02 we do yeah you guys do that that's your
1:03:04 building the community center the
1:03:05 community center is actually City
1:03:07 facility can't do yeah and there's a
1:03:09 pool yeah there is it's up on the hill
1:03:11 next to the community center right so
1:03:12 there's a lot of times it's amazing that
1:03:14 people just don't realize how many
1:03:16 things the Recreation services division
1:03:17 touches or that it runs the farmers
1:03:19 market and those kind of fun things um
1:03:22 Rec Services consist of five Dynamic
1:03:24 teams as we mentioned before the
1:03:26 community center the pool the senior
1:03:27 center Pickering barn and the athletic
1:03:30 and Athletics and Park rentals uh
1:03:32 together these teams provide a wide
1:03:34 range of services that residents in
1:03:36 isqua residents in Isa in the
1:03:38 surrounding areas uh I'd like to take a
1:03:40 couple minutes tonight to just briefly
1:03:41 highlight um each of these teams a
1:03:43 little bit for you to know what you just
1:03:45 to talk a little bit
1:03:47 about
1:03:50 um it's all on the same stff good uh at
1:03:53 the community center Kathy Jones and her
1:03:55 team team provide special events classes
1:03:58 and programs for all ages and abilities
1:04:00 creating opportunities for residents to
1:04:02 connect and engage with one another um
1:04:04 post covid and with the installation of
1:04:06 wood flooring within the community
1:04:08 center it just continues to see more
1:04:10 growth and its classes and programs in
1:04:12 the m just you know since it's continued
1:04:15 to this day we're just getting more and
1:04:17 more activity there uh some of the
1:04:19 programs offered through the community
1:04:20 center are adaptive Recreation preschool
1:04:22 before after school care health and
1:04:24 fitness day camps drop in activities
1:04:27 along with a wide variety of other
1:04:28 classes and
1:04:31 programs the Athletics and park Reynolds
1:04:33 team is a is responsible for organizing
1:04:36 and managing Youth and adult sports
1:04:38 programs and scheduling a variety of
1:04:39 outdoor active spaces such as fall
1:04:42 fields and picnic shelters located
1:04:43 throughout the community in the in the
1:04:46 last few years the Athletics team has
1:04:48 been excited to add a variety of new
1:04:49 programs including indoor and outdoor
1:04:51 pickle ball and cheer camp as well as
1:04:53 expanding our gliders track and field
1:04:56 and cross country programs to meet the
1:04:57 increasing demand from the public for
1:04:59 this program and we're kind of touching
1:05:02 into that piece we talked about earlier
1:05:04 right we're uh we're the we're the
1:05:05 active pieces of the parks um and we use
1:05:07 them a lot and as well said I always
1:05:11 love more spaces to program right uh
1:05:14 Jared and his team promote physical
1:05:16 health teamwork and social interaction
1:05:18 among participants of all ages and
1:05:20 stages within our community these
1:05:22 programs Foster a sense of community
1:05:23 Pride encourage active Lifestyles and
1:05:25 provide opportunities for Community
1:05:28 engagement uh the jly B pool has been
1:05:31 serving isqua since 1972 been around a
1:05:34 few minutes um I learned to swim there
1:05:36 if you want a little tid bit of
1:05:38 information I'm an exceptional
1:05:44 swi s yeah you don't want to see me um
1:05:48 Zack Zack Leon and the quatic team
1:05:49 provides swim lessons and trainings as
1:05:51 well as supporting six High School swim
1:05:53 teams and two private swim teams for
1:05:55 their swim practice practices and meets
1:05:57 uh the pool was excited to once again
1:05:59 host the under underwater egg hunt and
1:06:01 is looking to providing a brand new
1:06:03 program this year that's a junior Life
1:06:05 part program that will be offering the
1:06:06 summmer due to the increased demand
1:06:08 limit of space staff conducted a pool
1:06:10 feasibility study in 2023 to determine
1:06:13 whether or not additional capacity could
1:06:15 be added to the J Julius bone pool site
1:06:18 the pool feasibility study has been
1:06:20 completed and staff has conducted
1:06:21 education outre this summer to gauge
1:06:24 public The public's interest an
1:06:25 additional water capacity staff will be
1:06:28 providing an update to Council on
1:06:29 September on the education Outreach that
1:06:31 we go in the
1:06:33 summer you think it's since 1972 just a
1:06:38 little bit just a bit I'll ask you a
1:06:40 second question do you think the PO aqu
1:06:45 aquatic you that one thank you I
1:06:48 appreciate it I'll take as M as you want
1:06:50 to throw um since taking over the
1:06:53 operation 2017
1:06:55 the uh Senior Center has been a hub for
1:06:57 socialization and a place where seniors
1:06:59 can connect and be SE uh Kirsten May and
1:07:02 her team provide a vast array of program
1:07:04 offerings that enrich uh the lives of
1:07:07 seniors provide opportunities for
1:07:09 lifelong learning wellness and Community
1:07:11 engagement the senior center continues
1:07:13 to increase its relationship within our
1:07:15 community of ever increasing diverse
1:07:16 seniors for the second time with the
1:07:18 proud recipience of the King County
1:07:20 veterans and Senior Human Services
1:07:21 funding Grant which connects seniors
1:07:23 with much valuable and needed res
1:07:26 resources along with the Summer full of
1:07:28 very popular field trips um we are also
1:07:32 providing um meals four days a week um
1:07:36 and we also provide meals that honor the
1:07:38 holidays and special events that
1:07:39 represent our diverse
1:07:42 populations picking
1:07:45 Barn is destinational Landmark within
1:07:47 the city of isqua providing one of the
1:07:49 most popular and well attended farmers
1:07:51 markets on the East Side in addition to
1:07:52 being a premier site for wedding
1:07:55 weddings and a wide variety of special
1:07:57 events I hope I'm not reading too fast I
1:07:59 feel like I'm on a time crunch so please
1:08:02 to slow me down if I'm going too quick
1:08:04 uh Kelly Diane who runs the bickering
1:08:07 barn and her team have recently
1:08:08 introduced the snap and snap match
1:08:11 programs which provide food security for
1:08:14 those in need uh this year we're also
1:08:16 adding a variety of seasonal
1:08:21 markets you don't mind going to the next
1:08:23 slide thank you
1:08:26 uh Recreation is unique in that it's a
1:08:28 market-driven service um you know
1:08:31 customers choose to participate in
1:08:33 Services the city provides because of
1:08:35 our reputation as a trusted provider
1:08:37 consistent and safe high quality program
1:08:40 so it's hard to you a lot of services
1:08:41 you don't have to choose from right you
1:08:42 got bills that you just have to kind of
1:08:44 pay but people actually choose to
1:08:47 participate with us uh we regularly are
1:08:49 adjusting and adapting to meet the
1:08:51 evolving needs and wants of the
1:08:53 community uh we provide diverse programs
1:08:55 have offerings that are accessible
1:08:56 inclusive and reflective of the
1:08:58 community we
1:09:00 serve and recognizing the trust the Comm
1:09:03 that recognizing the trust that
1:09:04 customers place in us we seek excellence
1:09:07 in customer service by providing
1:09:09 well-trained staff and Quality
1:09:16 Service
1:09:18 uh part of the work in enhancing
1:09:20 Recreation programs has been looking at
1:09:22 our operations to see where
1:09:23 modifications can be made to enhance
1:09:25 efficiency reduce costs and improve
1:09:27 overall performance of customer service
1:09:29 by identifying and addressing
1:09:31 inefficiencies out and outdated
1:09:33 processes some of some recent procedural
1:09:36 changes we'd like to highlight are the
1:09:39 uh scholarship program which was revised
1:09:42 and adopted by Council in 2022 to more
1:09:45 equally serve the ongoing needs of those
1:09:47 who don't have who do not have the
1:09:49 resources participate in our programs as
1:09:52 we continue to share this program with
1:09:53 the community we we recently enhanced
1:09:56 scholarship program making it more
1:09:58 accessible and user friendly for a wider
1:10:00 variety of program participants we had
1:10:02 our uh we have an Adaptive Recreation
1:10:04 coordinator that took a look at it and
1:10:06 in dealing with the Adaptive populations
1:10:09 realized there were some barriers in
1:10:10 that population was having in reading
1:10:12 and understanding and filling out our
1:10:14 form so we did a little bit of a revamp
1:10:16 on it to make it more user friendly have
1:10:17 a little bit of a test group and we
1:10:19 worked with a hand what would make this
1:10:20 more right so we adjusted that form to
1:10:23 make it it's still a super simp simple
1:10:25 but as simple as it was so we're
1:10:27 continuing to make improvements
1:10:29 there uh this spring along with input
1:10:33 from the equity board we implemented
1:10:34 priority registration from for some of
1:10:36 our more popular programs allowing
1:10:39 residents of isqua to register prior to
1:10:41 prog to prior to the program opening to
1:10:44 the public this year priy registration
1:10:47 was implemented with both summer camps
1:10:49 and swim
1:10:51 lists Community feedback reinforces that
1:10:54 we continue to have a supply demand
1:10:55 Challenge and that there is a need for
1:10:57 increase in capacity Within These
1:10:59 programs the priority registration
1:11:01 helped but we still have not we still
1:11:03 have more work to do the high demand
1:11:05 program so we made some gains but
1:11:07 there's still work to be done um this
1:11:10 year sta is reviewing the rental spaces
1:11:12 and Gathering data on usage patterns
1:11:14 pricing rental policies and procedures
1:11:17 best practices and Community needs
1:11:19 following this work staff will identify
1:11:21 areas for improvement and revise the
1:11:23 facility rental processing forms to
1:11:25 reflect the lessons
1:11:32 learned another part of the work uh in
1:11:35 enhancing Recreation programs has been
1:11:36 looking at our pro at the programs we
1:11:38 offer and identifying areas for
1:11:40 improvement leading to enhanced program
1:11:42 quality and more effective use of
1:11:45 resources some recent program changes
1:11:48 and enhancements there are many but a
1:11:50 few we're going to highlight tonight are
1:11:53 the before and after school program
1:11:55 called old schoolhouse rck it began
1:11:57 during covid and was created in response
1:12:00 to uh the need for child care amongst
1:12:03 First Responders and those need to work
1:12:05 outside the home during Co that's kind
1:12:07 of the Genesis of that program uh this
1:12:09 year the program that was that used to
1:12:11 be staff run has now been transitioned
1:12:14 to a third party partner that cares for
1:12:16 children before and after school the
1:12:18 program is you know started one that's
1:12:20 still alive in little to day and it sort
1:12:21 of generated into a new program that's
1:12:23 now actually run with a partner and
1:12:27 uh post pandemic we were able to bring
1:12:29 back a full-time Recreation coordinator
1:12:30 position that's what I mentioned before
1:12:33 for the first time ever the
1:12:34 coordinator's primary respons was
1:12:36 dedicated to Adaptive Recreation
1:12:37 programming having a full-time
1:12:39 Recreation coordinator has helped to
1:12:41 greatly expand the programs classes and
1:12:43 events offered within the Adaptive
1:12:45 Community a few brand new programs being
1:12:48 offered this year are uh within the
1:12:50 Special Olympics programming venue we're
1:12:51 going to offer swimming track and pickle
1:12:54 ball um we've offered in the past we've
1:12:56 offered basketball and softball but uh
1:12:59 adding those extra ones would be our
1:13:02 everybody's looking forward to those new
1:13:04 programs um as mentioned earlier the
1:13:06 gliders program was expanded to meet
1:13:09 increase in demand and is serving over
1:13:11 600 participants this
1:13:14 year that's a lot of Runners I wasn't
1:13:16 one of those that jumped in that program
1:13:17 but there's a lot of Runners this can I
1:13:19 can I add something about that one Brian
1:13:22 great job on all of these um Ju Just to
1:13:24 speak so much of these are either
1:13:27 modifications or or came about with a
1:13:29 lot of discussion gliders is a great
1:13:31 example and that we we knew that there
1:13:34 was interest in running and year round
1:13:36 running and not just at the track
1:13:38 program but cross country uh we ran a
1:13:41 recreation soccer program for years uh
1:13:44 that just before the pandemic we were
1:13:45 seeing those numbers really drop
1:13:48 considerably um and had to make that
1:13:50 hard decision to pay you know we only
1:13:52 have so much staff capacity um when you
1:13:55 even think about running programs and
1:13:57 offering programs so had to make the
1:13:59 hard decision but I think it was the
1:14:01 right decision to say you know what to
1:14:03 grab a hold of year round running we
1:14:05 need to let go of something and so as we
1:14:07 let go of that Rec Soccer program we
1:14:09 realize there's enough Rec Soccer
1:14:11 providers here in the community let's
1:14:13 not be redundant it's been really cool
1:14:15 to see how the communities responded so
1:14:17 now re soccer is still an an option for
1:14:20 family members for residents but so is
1:14:23 this um this running program that has
1:14:25 just been uh very very well received
1:14:28 yeah so absolutely
1:14:32 absolutely um summer camps offered to
1:14:34 the community center extremely popular
1:14:36 and in high demand in 2024 with
1:14:39 additional funding approved by Council
1:14:41 staff was staff offered an additional
1:14:43 summer day camp a summer camp as well as
1:14:46 piloting a twoe Spanish speaking Camp um
1:14:49 implementing prior registration and
1:14:51 adding camps helped but did not take
1:14:53 care of the whole problem and this is
1:14:54 reflect within the survey responses that
1:14:56 we received uh Community Center staff
1:14:59 continues to work toward increase
1:15:00 capacity for residents to these popular
1:15:02 program so once again we've made some
1:15:05 gains but there's still more gains to be
1:15:07 made and that's just acknowledging that
1:15:09 yes we've made some positive steps and
1:15:11 still have more to take still running a
1:15:13 pretty sizable weight list yes right
1:15:15 each we yeah there yeah speaking of
1:15:18 sizable weight list um another program
1:15:20 that's very popular and high demand is
1:15:22 our swim lesson program yeah you Ed to
1:15:25 register for one of those know the
1:15:27 experience I was there earlier today
1:15:30 with some class and I'm getting ready
1:15:31 for Wednesday registration there's a
1:15:33 little bit of
1:15:35 angst listen to a lot of people about
1:15:37 registering for those too and I think it
1:15:39 was our city administer said that think
1:15:41 registering for the summer day camp was
1:15:43 the most stressful five minutes or 10
1:15:45 minutes of the year what was right we're
1:15:49 trying to ease that we want to ease that
1:15:50 for not only our city administrator but
1:15:52 our community at large uh so in 2024
1:15:55 staff increased capacity by offering
1:15:57 more swim lesson classes along with
1:15:59 increase increasing the capacity within
1:16:02 the classes being offer as with summer
1:16:04 camps adding priority registration
1:16:06 increasing capacity within the swim
1:16:07 lesson program helped but it did not
1:16:09 resolve our issue schol staff is working
1:16:12 to increase capacity Within These
1:16:13 popular programs so even more can learn
1:16:15 to school that's what it's all about we
1:16:17 want to teach as many cases we can to
1:16:21 learn uh the Recreation services
1:16:23 division provides a variety of community
1:16:26 events coming out of Co reestablishing
1:16:29 some much loved events and adding new
1:16:31 ones has been has been a priority for
1:16:32 the team this year some of these events
1:16:35 include the down home Fourth of July
1:16:37 that was added this year and bringing
1:16:39 back Bo the barn along with the
1:16:41 underwater EG now the Fourth of July was
1:16:43 run by the city last year but this year
1:16:45 was run by the Recreation services
1:16:47 division so uh our Recreation service
1:16:50 division will be running it forward so
1:16:51 we built on the good work done last year
1:16:53 built on this year and moving forward
1:16:55 service division is in charge
1:16:57 of uh as mentioned earlier the pck barn
1:17:01 implemented the snap and snap match
1:17:02 programs which allow for more access to
1:17:04 farm fresh food along with the food
1:17:07 Access program we'll also be adding some
1:17:09 new seasonal markets in
1:17:11 2024 2024 Market Farmers Market held its
1:17:15 first ever poster contest where local
1:17:17 artists competed for the opportunity to
1:17:19 have their design on the promotional
1:17:21 materials for this year's farmers market
1:17:24 so everything you see Farmers Market
1:17:25 related was an actual contest that uh
1:17:29 artists submitted and it's kind of cool
1:17:31 we're going to do it every year well we
1:17:32 have one our first annual so we'll be
1:17:34 doing it in the future so it's kind of a
1:17:36 fun thing and another fun fact about the
1:17:38 farmers market is we just hit uh 5,000
1:17:42 attendees say on two Saturdays that we
1:17:45 had which is more than we've ever had
1:17:47 and that's I like to remind people too
1:17:50 that even our average used to be around
1:17:51 the 3500s and now more like the 45 but
1:17:55 you realize too that's 9 to 2 o'clock
1:17:57 every Saturday that that amount of
1:17:59 people are going in and out and the
1:18:01 transition of setting that event up and
1:18:03 then by 3 o'clock we're setting up wed
1:18:06 right so the team there does a fabulous
1:18:08 job and running a really great Market
1:18:10 but then also getting out get it out of
1:18:11 there so we can turn around for a
1:18:14 wonderful wedding experience hopefully
1:18:16 and as you mentioned the 5,000 R yeah
1:18:19 and the fact that we're averaging 4,000
1:18:21 it's just data is a great example that
1:18:23 the recreation team is really grabbing
1:18:25 hold of data Kelly Diane and team and
1:18:28 Farmers Market are doing a great job of
1:18:30 tracking vendor
1:18:33 sales you know attendance we've got a
1:18:35 great group of volunteers that are that
1:18:37 are clicking and doing the best they can
1:18:39 to keep track of of folks and so that's
1:18:42 just great for us in terms of delivery
1:18:44 of the program but also as we are
1:18:46 attracting vendors a farmers market is a
1:18:49 is a very um nuanced business is that
1:18:52 you really are playing Cupid that's your
1:18:54 job to bring vendors and fantastic
1:18:58 vendors and customers who are wanting to
1:19:00 spend money and let them enjoy the
1:19:04 Commerce and um I think that those
1:19:06 several years of data have really paid
1:19:08 off and that um again to think we're
1:19:11 averaging 4,000 plus is uh it's
1:19:15 fantastic it's a great if you haven't
1:19:17 been there or if you do go please go
1:19:20 between the food trucks and is is just
1:19:23 every time I go it is a great definition
1:19:25 of community it is just it's it's a
1:19:28 coming and and hanging out for five
1:19:31 hours so great job at the team and some
1:19:33 great food
1:19:34 trucks and the data too we even tracked
1:19:36 the uh we even keep track sort of the
1:19:38 weather right so you know like what the
1:19:41 weather was on certain days without
1:19:42 attendance because it's natural any
1:19:44 outdoor event weather's worse either too
1:19:47 hot or raining you know us see deep
1:19:49 natural but it's kind of fun to track it
1:19:52 to see what the weather was on each day
1:19:53 along with those
1:19:55 the snap thing is a big deal too what's
1:19:57 that the snap thing is a big deal yeah
1:20:00 no that is yeah in 2020 last year we
1:20:02 implemented snap and this year we were
1:20:04 able to get snap match and it's it's a
1:20:06 bit of work for the staff it was a big
1:20:07 lift Kelly Dan and her team Kelly Dan
1:20:09 especially made it l to have our finance
1:20:12 department was great embraced it it's
1:20:14 thank you for ackowledgement because if
1:20:16 you don't know about it was huge and for
1:20:17 a lot of years we were like we don't
1:20:18 have the band we don't have the band
1:20:20 with they like you know we think we have
1:20:21 the band withd this is something we need
1:20:22 to do let's do it and we did it and it's
1:20:25 and it really has provided food access
1:20:27 to a lot of folks and that program
1:20:28 continues when we have numbers on that
1:20:30 too that each week we see more more
1:20:33 people using that and taking advantage
1:20:34 of it which is just really awesome and
1:20:36 Brian I just want to interject too that
1:20:38 I appreciated the parks that that the um
1:20:42 there was Presence at the food bank last
1:20:44 Tuesday when I was there volunteering
1:20:46 and they were introducing it and letting
1:20:48 people know about it writing information
1:20:50 so that was uh that was really good yeah
1:20:53 yeah yeah we're trying to get that work
1:20:54 out there into the community right it's
1:20:56 kind like our scholarship program same
1:20:57 thing right what how do we reach because
1:20:59 a lot of times there's those of us are
1:21:01 connected a lot we have to think about
1:21:03 things a way like well how are we get
1:21:04 connect with those that maybe just not
1:21:06 connected how do we find those folks and
1:21:07 how do we reach them so we're
1:21:08 continually trying to think of the best
1:21:10 ways to do that that's one of those
1:21:11 that's going hey let's go to the
1:21:12 community might want and be able to use
1:21:15 this thank
1:21:23 um she kind of talking about everything
1:21:25 else for my
1:21:27 spot visibility yes thank you you're
1:21:30 thank
1:21:31 you in 2023 staff conducted a pool
1:21:34 pability study that confirmed there is a
1:21:36 strong desire for additional pool space
1:21:38 within our community in 2024 staff is
1:21:42 conducting education and Outreach to the
1:21:44 community to explore the community's
1:21:46 interest in the potential for increased
1:21:48 capacity on the existing pool
1:21:51 site it's part of the work to enhance
1:21:54 Recreation program staff conducted a
1:21:55 community survey from the end this is uh
1:21:58 the community survey from the end of May
1:22:01 through June the 21st the survey
1:22:03 received 818 responses and provided
1:22:05 valuable data and feedback so 818 I
1:22:08 think we were shooting we think hey we'
1:22:09 be doing really well we got on 4500 and
1:22:11 we hit the 800 Mark I was pretty happy
1:22:14 with that um tonight we'll be providing
1:22:16 a quick high level overview of some of
1:22:18 that information that
1:22:24 um some of the key takeaways from the
1:22:26 survey that we' like to share are uh
1:22:29 there were strong levels of satisfaction
1:22:31 with existing programs and services but
1:22:33 with room to improve we'll be discussing
1:22:35 some of those on the next slide uh
1:22:38 there's interest for both new programs
1:22:40 and events there's also interest in
1:22:42 expanding existing popular programs and
1:22:44 services there's a strong desire for an
1:22:47 increase in marketing and Outreach that
1:22:49 is vital and ensuring residents are
1:22:51 aware of programs and services
1:22:53 offered there are program limitations
1:22:55 due to high demand and quick fill up
1:22:57 times which lead to frustration and
1:23:00 disappointment but not for Paul because
1:23:02 Paul got into the swim
1:23:04 list I had like two
1:23:10 alarms thank you there we go uh with
1:23:13 over 600 responses to this question this
1:23:16 table encompasses some feedback on our
1:23:17 current programs how the community feels
1:23:20 we are doing uh real quickly I wanted to
1:23:22 note that there's there's a neutral
1:23:24 section and the the neutral or not
1:23:26 applicable column that refle that
1:23:28 reflects participants you know taking
1:23:30 part in the survey that they're not
1:23:32 familiar with the program offer right so
1:23:34 that that neutral or not applicable area
1:23:37 and you can see this as we look at some
1:23:39 of our smaller more targeted programs
1:23:41 they have higher percentages in those
1:23:42 areas like some of our smaller more
1:23:44 target areas like our preschool and our
1:23:46 adaptive wreck and our uh H which was
1:23:49 other uh the youth before and after
1:23:52 school care yes those have higher levels
1:23:55 on that you know not applicable area
1:23:58 because people just aren't familiar with
1:24:00 those and or don't use those programs so
1:24:04 as we look at the overall satisfied and
1:24:05 unsatisfied columns we notice a few
1:24:07 things I wanted to point out overall you
1:24:10 can see that the satisfi satisfied side
1:24:13 is greater than the unsatisfied side and
1:24:15 there is room for
1:24:17 improvement um looking at the two
1:24:19 columns on the right we see that there
1:24:22 is a higher level of unsatisfied with
1:24:25 the Aquatic pool Fitness Wellness Sports
1:24:28 and youth summer camp
1:24:30 programs um they have just a little bit
1:24:32 higher unsatisfied numbers um the
1:24:35 feedback from the community indicates
1:24:37 the need for increasing programming with
1:24:39 the community asking for more of these
1:24:44 more events more programs and more
1:24:46 opportunities to participate in a
1:24:47 variety of classes programs and events
1:24:49 so what what we saw and read and the
1:24:53 feedback from the survey you know sort
1:24:56 of verified exactly that there is
1:24:58 frustration with those specific programs
1:25:00 because of some accessibility hard to
1:25:02 get into and they would like more of
1:25:05 them um we kind of talked about Farmers
1:25:08 Market which was great but I always
1:25:09 don't mind bring this one up again uh
1:25:11 down there on the bottom left you it was
1:25:14 kind of fun to see there's there's a
1:25:15 high level of participation in the
1:25:17 market as well as you they enjoyed it
1:25:20 right which is really good um because
1:25:23 there's like when you look at the
1:25:24 neutral only 21% of the folks in that
1:25:28 neutral that that's the lowest one so
1:25:30 most people had at least some familiar
1:25:33 familiarity with the farmers market
1:25:35 which I thought was just a pretty neat
1:25:37 thing to
1:25:38 see your senior center looks good too
1:25:41 right yeah yeah that's a great great
1:25:45 story thank you for pointing that out um
1:25:48 for those have been around you may
1:25:49 recall we became the direct operator of
1:25:52 the senior center in 2017 2018 it was a
1:25:57 contentious uh to say the least um
1:26:01 environment uh down there there was a
1:26:03 third party operator who had long done
1:26:05 it the center was feeling very exclusive
1:26:07 you either sort of in the group or out
1:26:09 of the group um um and you know I would
1:26:13 say since that time it was really a a
1:26:16 goal of ours um as we were asked to sort
1:26:19 of step in and provide some interim
1:26:21 operation at first and now the long-term
1:26:24 permanent operation to really try and
1:26:26 flip the culture to really make that a
1:26:29 safe inviting accessible space and U you
1:26:32 know seeing that feedback um there's a
1:26:35 lot of written feedback um wrting
1:26:38 qualitative feedback that went with the
1:26:40 survey about 600 of the 800 people took
1:26:42 the time to give us some written
1:26:44 feedback that Brian will touch on on the
1:26:46 next slide that a lot of very heartfelt
1:26:49 appreciation for the senior center so
1:26:51 again a a relatively new operation for
1:26:55 uh the recreation team but uh something
1:26:58 that um again is the pros that they are
1:27:01 just make it um look
1:27:04 easy yeah great the team at the senior
1:27:07 center is outstanding and it's yeah it's
1:27:08 a different environment now it's a
1:27:10 you've been in there and you only be
1:27:13 55 some of us there even younger yeah
1:27:18 that yeah there's no anybody is welcome
1:27:21 and they do have great lunches so
1:27:24 yeah they really do have to go Tuesday
1:27:25 through Friday it's by the staff at the
1:27:27 senior center and like six five six
1:27:30 bucks something like that
1:27:32 they no they don't they
1:27:36 don't I love it uh if you next slide
1:27:41 there we go uh through writing questions
1:27:44 asking what would increase customer
1:27:45 satisfaction and program ideas customers
1:27:48 would like to see Four Strong threads
1:27:50 came out through this feedback uh first
1:27:52 there was a there's a desire for more
1:27:54 community events social activities that
1:27:56 bring people together and connect our
1:27:58 community uh we also see an interest in
1:28:00 More arts cultural environmental
1:28:02 programs really they just really stood
1:28:04 out people wanting to come together want
1:28:06 to have more you know sort of diverse
1:28:08 programming the Arts culture envir and
1:28:11 environment uh next two prominent age
1:28:14 groups stood out additional teen and
1:28:17 Senior programming is highly
1:28:20 desired is witnessed by
1:28:24 that middle school age is something that
1:28:26 we're continuing to develop our
1:28:29 relationship and engage with the the
1:28:31 school district and figure out how can
1:28:33 we be a real partner and asset to them
1:28:37 for either after school middle middle
1:28:39 school activities or evening middle
1:28:41 school
1:28:43 activities yes yeah we just got the
1:28:45 dancers back last year those are just
1:28:48 what bring memor stuff right um it's fun
1:28:52 they kids have a great time and yeah
1:28:54 it's how do we keep those not not having
1:28:57 Idle Hands it's that you know having
1:28:59 kids get have those activities that
1:29:01 middle school age is such an important
1:29:02 one to keep them busy and active and
1:29:04 engaged with something that's
1:29:06 positive um there's a strong desire for
1:29:09 parent increase Sports and Fitness
1:29:11 opportunities including more
1:29:12 Recreational Sports health and fitness
1:29:14 classes and programs additional sports
1:29:16 facilities and additional fitness
1:29:18 equipment in the community center uh the
1:29:21 the Sports and Fitness also have a lot
1:29:23 of crossover with the teens and seniors
1:29:24 where a lot of those same desires for
1:29:26 that programming was also in the teens
1:29:29 and seniors category as
1:29:31 well you that middle school age where
1:29:34 competitive competitive Sports aren't
1:29:36 necessarily the track but there's still
1:29:38 a desire for you know how might we do an
1:29:41 inter mural an inter mural type type you
1:29:45 know sports for for that Middle School
1:29:48 absolutely Tim's got his hand up oh yeah
1:29:51 Tim hey thank you yeah so so you've put
1:29:54 a lot of numbers up here and we've
1:29:55 talked about usage I know places like
1:29:58 the senior center the pool the community
1:30:01 center uh especially the pool and the
1:30:03 community center they track traffic
1:30:05 going in and out and I wonder if you
1:30:07 have data showing like increase you know
1:30:10 foot traffic coming in or you know into
1:30:13 the pool into the community center how
1:30:15 it might vary over the course of the
1:30:17 year and how it varies from year to year
1:30:20 which would help justify improvements
1:30:23 and EXP expansion of the programs if you
1:30:25 could show look at the you know the
1:30:28 increase in usage we're seeing tell Max
1:30:32 though unfortunately like pool like
1:30:35 every single s lesson is full done yeah
1:30:37 the is pretty full but we can check we
1:30:39 have to do a little digging to because
1:30:41 we have it all it all registers to the
1:30:42 registration program except for our
1:30:44 drop-ins and such there's drop-ins that
1:30:46 don't get tracked so there would be some
1:30:47 traffic there we wouldn't but yeah no
1:30:49 that's a good one I I took a note of
1:30:50 that thank you Tim
1:30:54 question about the um Team programs do
1:30:56 we have any way of actually serving kids
1:31:00 or having a community board of kids that
1:31:04 have opinions
1:31:05 on programs and like the Idle Hands
1:31:08 thing asking the middle schoolers what
1:31:12 would be interesting because as we know
1:31:13 things have changed so much oh totally
1:31:16 we do some of that our youth ADV no
1:31:19 that's what I'm asking yeah we have like
1:31:21 40 or 50 kids represent all the middle
1:31:24 schools and high schools that come
1:31:25 together more of the leadership program
1:31:27 is really what it is okay and then they
1:31:29 also plan and put together program it's
1:31:31 really it's been around I was talking
1:31:32 more about the enhancing more stuff for
1:31:34 you over night but the youth it' be fun
1:31:37 to have them come here and talk just
1:31:38 about that program in the years because
1:31:40 it does some pomal work it's touched
1:31:42 kids lives in so many different cool
1:31:44 ways um yeah it's a really cool Outreach
1:31:48 of those of that Advisory Board you know
1:31:50 like if you look at the asbs at middle
1:31:52 school and high school they are the kids
1:31:54 that are already leaders are these kids
1:31:57 that are also very say they fall tend to
1:32:00 fall in that same yeah okay I just
1:32:02 wonder there's but is they're speaking
1:32:04 for their peers as we're trying to get
1:32:07 feedback you you'll notice in the in the
1:32:09 school year we'll have um one or two
1:32:11 youth advisory reps on the park board so
1:32:14 that's great we'll have a new group of
1:32:17 them coming uh coming this fall but
1:32:20 great resource yes to ask them yeah some
1:32:23 these exact same things yeah and even
1:32:26 like the after school care um I know in
1:32:28 elementary schools but in Middle School
1:32:30 it doesn't exist like it's pre they have
1:32:34 right coming out
1:32:36 Co lost the funding in at IMs but they a
1:32:40 lot of the kids that are really really
1:32:42 struggling and causing a lot of
1:32:44 community problems later have none of
1:32:46 this extra cular stuff and so it may be
1:32:49 an idea to talk the principal I know is
1:32:52 super open to all of this but having a
1:32:54 couple of kids that are leaders that are
1:32:57 not on ASP but that are struggling
1:32:59 populations Jay-Z yeah yeah I
1:33:04 can they're getting it the vice
1:33:06 principal at I is gonna be the D IMS
1:33:09 this next year
1:33:11 she yes I heard that that's awesome get
1:33:14 her yes oh my gosh that's
1:33:18 outstanding um as mentioned in earlier
1:33:21 slides there's also strong desire for
1:33:22 swim lessons incre pool capacity and
1:33:25 additional qu
1:33:27 facilities go to the next
1:33:30 one thank you moving forward enhancing
1:33:33 Recreation programs is an ongoing effort
1:33:35 it's uh it's rooting our past it's
1:33:37 driving our present and shaping our
1:33:39 future uh this is not a one-year task
1:33:41 but a continual journey to enrich the
1:33:43 lives of our residents through quality
1:33:45 Recreation services um some of our KCK
1:33:47 steps are to uh assess feedback given in
1:33:51 the survey and identify the areas most
1:33:53 requested by the community and to
1:33:55 examine opportunities for future
1:33:57 programs we're going to develop budget
1:33:59 and resources to support additional
1:34:02 programming this working to develop our
1:34:04 budget so that we can support additional
1:34:06 programming uh maintaining an open
1:34:08 mindset regarding program imple
1:34:10 implementation and paying attention to
1:34:12 the existing programs and their life
1:34:15 cycles um you this is acknowledging when
1:34:18 uh you when a program may have reached
1:34:19 the end of its life or began to feel a
1:34:21 little stale or stagnant you know it's
1:34:23 so staff will need to evaluate whether
1:34:25 or not it's time to allocate those
1:34:27 programs resources into other
1:34:29 programming or New Opportunities right
1:34:30 so that's kind of a some where you
1:34:32 always have to pay attention to Jeff
1:34:33 mentioned it with the soccer right and
1:34:35 as you're seeing things start to
1:34:37 decrease and there was already that need
1:34:39 was already kind filled with the
1:34:40 community at a time we were very
1:34:42 relevant in that in that need fulfilling
1:34:45 that and then we got to a point where it
1:34:46 wasn't as much need so always evaluating
1:34:49 things to see that if they do slow down
1:34:51 it become you know sometimes like you
1:34:53 talk like the horse is dead sometimes
1:34:55 you're going to jump off it right so if
1:34:57 if the program everything has a life
1:34:58 cycle and sometimes you can reinvigorate
1:35:00 those other times it's just around its
1:35:02 course or somebody else in the community
1:35:04 often what happen is we introduce people
1:35:06 a lot of times to things for the first
1:35:07 time we're not we're not trying to own
1:35:09 any Industries you know we do
1:35:10 introductory karate classes if you
1:35:12 really want to go do karate well by all
1:35:14 means go to a karate club right um but
1:35:16 we like to introduce people at a price
1:35:18 they can afford and to see if they
1:35:20 really like and enjoy it that's kind of
1:35:21 a lot of times of wages we feel lot abs
1:35:26 experien
1:35:27 um lastly developing the Cadence for
1:35:30 engaging with the community about
1:35:31 Recreation programs and services and
1:35:34 making it a part of our planning efforts
1:35:37 uh that reaching out to the community
1:35:39 through our survey hearing back from the
1:35:41 community doing some of this Outreach
1:35:43 where we're talking to people you know
1:35:44 get a little bit more just you know we
1:35:46 have a pretty good flavor because we
1:35:47 listen to the customers we're talking to
1:35:48 them when they come into our buildings
1:35:49 when they're in our programs we listen
1:35:51 very very well but to actually engage it
1:35:53 and reach out for it is something that
1:35:55 we found very beneficial we've got some
1:35:57 great feedback from this most recent
1:35:58 survey uh people engaged with it we got
1:36:01 a lot of responses so yeah we found it
1:36:02 to be very very valuable want to
1:36:04 continue doing that you know on a multi
1:36:06 maybe every three to four year type of
1:36:08 process to just sort of hey how are we
1:36:10 doing you know are we doing the things
1:36:11 you want us to be doing what else would
1:36:12 you like and in all fairness it's a real
1:36:15 cheap way to get some great ideas
1:36:16 sometimes people just you're hey why
1:36:18 don't you I love why don't you m i don't
1:36:20 understand why you guys don't my ears
1:36:22 always pop up because that's when get
1:36:24 sometimes because someone say why don't
1:36:25 you like the heck I think maybe we
1:36:28 should do that why don't
1:36:33 you do it good Rangers we have one or
1:36:38 now one full time one fulltime and one
1:36:40 part-time we do yeah use them for junior
1:36:44 Ranger oh like a junior Ranger program
1:36:47 yes where a lot of boys girls don't like
1:36:50 the sports or the sports they could go
1:36:53 out ra is very educational it would be
1:36:55 additional people in our Parks helping
1:36:58 with what the Rangers do and maybe
1:36:59 developing through
1:37:03 aspirations I don't know how the Rangers
1:37:06 are I love it I love
1:37:09 it yeah they're doing a number of
1:37:11 Education Outreach um speaking
1:37:15 opportunities um they Cas feading a
1:37:18 family hike uh in a couple of days uh
1:37:21 through tradition plateau and so they're
1:37:23 they're working on that programming AR
1:37:26 yeah that's why talk talk
1:37:30 about these kids on hies and I thought
1:37:33 we need programs for the boys and girls
1:37:36 that don't have anything to do and if
1:37:39 they could become a junior
1:37:41 Ranger or something and learn about the
1:37:43 trees and the streams and help help the
1:37:46 Rangers in their jobs sort of getting
1:37:48 out of those traditional modes of
1:37:50 programs I can use certain yeah
1:37:53 CU like said you touched on us people
1:37:55 some some of those youth are already
1:37:57 involved so how do we get the ones that
1:37:59 aren't involved do you have any
1:38:01 connection to the teen
1:38:03 garage yeah I mean we are right across
1:38:05 the street from them and we work with
1:38:07 Kaylee on the r um and talk to her
1:38:11 about yeah so from the yeah from the
1:38:13 very beginning we were really partners
1:38:16 with that's that's City that's a city
1:38:18 space that they that they have contract
1:38:21 contract with us and so yeah they're
1:38:23 they're great partners and do really
1:38:25 good work their focus is high schoolers
1:38:27 yeah um but but those kids would be
1:38:30 great they're also people that need
1:38:31 things to do sure oh to we coordinate
1:38:34 with them on some they use like a stage
1:38:37 up for the community center go on for
1:38:39 some different activities we try to you
1:38:40 know share a sharing space right it's
1:38:42 all yeah great partners for outreach as
1:38:44 well in fact Robin I know you took part
1:38:47 in a um part of our Park system plan
1:38:49 that we were just talking about had a
1:38:51 couple of sort of interview um
1:38:54 times with some of the students there at
1:38:57 the I say it's really great because
1:39:00 there is a class that a lot of them have
1:39:02 to take or take at NBC which is a hiking
1:39:04 class so that's a good way to integrate
1:39:06 both together um and a lot of kids don't
1:39:09 take it because they aren't geared up so
1:39:11 that's good to know too that they aren't
1:39:12 getting out there because they don't
1:39:14 have the right shoes or jackets or
1:39:16 backpacks so you know teaching them what
1:39:19 to bring and where to get back would be
1:39:21 really really critical
1:39:23 just a really
1:39:25 question say community feedback Cadence
1:39:28 and I know we talked about the survey
1:39:29 that went out course if you do a General
1:39:31 survey you're gonna get you know a
1:39:33 little you're gonna get a lot more in
1:39:34 the community but I was curious since
1:39:37 we've been talking so much about kids
1:39:39 and kind of focusing on them are do you
1:39:41 guys reach out or talk to the PT like
1:39:44 the actual PTA meetings in some of the
1:39:47 elementary or middle
1:39:50 school we have not short
1:39:53 yeah it would be a great resource we
1:39:55 would love to tap into the PTA Network
1:39:57 just get on the agenda and just say
1:39:59 hey I mean I know it's a
1:40:03 lot people but I just think it's
1:40:06 a no longer an elementary school or high
1:40:10 school you know in the school district I
1:40:11 know you're only getting a smaller
1:40:13 population but but boy I think that's a
1:40:15 that's a really uh a a really good easy
1:40:19 way for you to tap into uh
1:40:24 great point because we we deal with the
1:40:25 PT all the time like we Host this
1:40:27 Foundation Community Center um we have
1:40:30 ptas at rent and need our facilities on
1:40:32 regulars different types of things so
1:40:34 yeah we cross over a lot with PT but
1:40:36 yeah know and that not have to check I
1:40:39 think Kathy has actually gone and done a
1:40:40 little
1:40:41 bit has done some discussions with the
1:40:44 PTA and whatnot so up for looking but
1:40:46 that's a great that's if you like really
1:40:48 wanted to get some information you could
1:40:50 just say hey you know we're we're here
1:40:52 for you and got this quick survey or you
1:40:55 do an informal poll you do all kinds of
1:40:58 stuff even just to get to know the exact
1:41:00 board and then they
1:41:02 put every single
1:41:05 they school has been very
1:41:08 support with them and a lot of crossover
1:41:11 they they're very supportive work and
1:41:13 efforts that we put for then we go back
1:41:16 and right because they they want their
1:41:18 child to be active and take advantage to
1:41:20 all the great things that you guys are I
1:41:24 did yeah oh thank you that's awesome um
1:41:29 if you don't want to go next slide
1:41:30 really quickly uh below are the topics
1:41:33 we discussed as we move into uh
1:41:36 Direction needed we'd be happy to answer
1:41:38 and discuss any questions that you may
1:41:40 have if you'll BCE the last
1:41:42 slide thank
1:41:46 you and we're at the direction needed
1:41:49 one is there any additional feedback for
1:41:51 staff to consider while conducting
1:41:53 further internal review and Gathering
1:41:55 resident input about City Recreation
1:41:57 programs and services two as we plan for
1:42:00 the 25 26 budget cycle are there any
1:42:03 considerations or priorities you would
1:42:05 like for us to address in our ongoing
1:42:06 efforts to enhance Recreation
1:42:09 programs we've had some discussion
1:42:11 throughout the me but you know always it
1:42:14 goes you know the way we work is it goes
1:42:16 beyond the meeting too I mean you know
1:42:17 you guys know us all well enough if you
1:42:19 can hear things or ideas shoot us an
1:42:21 email give phone call always happy to
1:42:23 discuss and talk about different ideas
1:42:25 like I said I I don't know if I'm the
1:42:27 world's best idea generator but I know
1:42:29 good ideas when I hear them so i' love
1:42:31 to hear a good ideas so got a
1:42:35 question spurred by your comment but uh
1:42:38 Gibs NE kids they have like these
1:42:40 internship programs
1:42:44 yeah perfect we' had some done at the
1:42:47 cior center pool Community Center yeah
1:42:51 Arts Forestry
1:42:55 pull from a a different group of kids
1:42:58 yeah which know we've had some that's
1:42:59 worked out really really
1:43:01 well that's a cool program I love your
1:43:04 idea of
1:43:05 having the inter mural ideas in middle
1:43:09 school and high school I have so many
1:43:11 clients that want to start playing
1:43:13 something or and it reminds me of when
1:43:15 my kids were little we came down at did
1:43:17 the sport s both of my and it was so
1:43:20 great because they could just be in a
1:43:22 sport for a we we and just try it and
1:43:25 teenagers think that because if they
1:43:27 commit to a sport with their family and
1:43:29 any family will say well you can't quit
1:43:32 if I if quit this when you hate it
1:43:34 you're going and so they won't start
1:43:36 anything in middle school and high
1:43:37 school because by the time they get
1:43:39 there they're scared to death they'll
1:43:40 have to be in there for three months or
1:43:42 whatever it is be intimidated too oh
1:43:45 yeah and all yeah all these select kids
1:43:47 coming in right so I love that idea just
1:43:49 having these beginner Sports it's that
1:44:00 middle I should noed I'm sort of looking
1:44:02 at our we do like art classes and that
1:44:05 kind of
1:44:06 stuff yeah small yeah we don't do a ton
1:44:09 that's that's an area too that we could
1:44:11 do more definitely and we can do more
1:44:14 and the community would like more of
1:44:16 that type of work do you still rent out
1:44:19 rooms in the community center to like
1:44:21 you took like music classes there but
1:44:23 they were through a contracted like Z
1:44:26 Nest or something like that yeah oh
1:44:29 talking I can't remember but it's yeah
1:44:31 yes we do that and sometimes those are
1:44:32 programs run in conjunction with us they
1:44:34 part organizations we partner with that
1:44:36 variety of different entities because
1:44:38 you know we shoot for one of three
1:44:39 things right either we run it directly
1:44:41 right we partner with somebody to run
1:44:43 something or we point them in the
1:44:45 direction of where you can find Serv
1:44:47 it's usually what we try to so
1:44:48 somebody's looking for something that's
1:44:49 we try to one those Bank like we don't
1:44:51 provide it we don't partner somebody
1:44:53 provides it we try to help them find
1:44:55 work the they can get that resource be
1:44:58 an interesting data point too s is
1:45:01 really should demonstrating this balance
1:45:04 between
1:45:05 contracted programs partner programs
1:45:08 provide and direct programs we provide
1:45:10 it's a it's a pretty healthy balance
1:45:12 between both of those allows us to offer
1:45:16 more to the
1:45:18 community
1:45:19 direct well that also plays in the
1:45:21 program evation p too like you know what
1:45:24 points maybe we is it better or wiser to
1:45:26 partner with an organization to free up
1:45:29 bandwidth in order to do other
1:45:30 programing
1:45:32 services and do you when you do that do
1:45:34 you charge rent to those people how does
1:45:36 that work it's a fee based it's often a
1:45:39 percentage split
1:45:42 okay and that's pretty common amongst
1:45:44 all cities partner and are the rooms in
1:45:48 the committee that does it close at a
1:45:49 certain time and the rooms can't be
1:45:51 rented at 90 or how does that well we're
1:45:53 open till 9:00 right
1:45:58 so chamber letting people know that
1:46:02 those rooms are
1:46:03 available oh the chamber has rooms for
1:46:05 it no no no the the community oh yeah
1:46:08 letting the chamber letting the
1:46:09 networking groups in Aon know because
1:46:12 there's a whole there's like I think of
1:46:14 therapists that just have this tiny
1:46:15 little office they're always looking for
1:46:17 Rooms To Do groups or things like that
1:46:19 but knowing that they can partner with
1:46:20 you to provide something like that was
1:46:23 one of our procedural um sort of reviews
1:46:25 we're doing is taking a really holistic
1:46:28 look at how all of our facility rentals
1:46:30 so all the room rentals at the community
1:46:33 center the senior center right um and a
1:46:36 number of other buildings and creating
1:46:38 sort about a One Stop resource guide and
1:46:42 making sure we really benefiting the
1:46:45 in exactly that be
1:46:49 amazing Brian I just have feedback on
1:46:53 internal review and Gathering resident
1:46:55 input so maybe you can go to the survey
1:46:59 so I'm you called it out earlier the way
1:47:02 that neutral and non applicable is is
1:47:05 this the way that you combine the result
1:47:07 or the way that you repost the question
1:47:09 I'm just curious if we're distinguishing
1:47:12 indifference from they're truly not
1:47:15 applicable to you like I can be I I
1:47:18 don't have to go to the senior center or
1:47:20 maybe I'm a senior person but I don't
1:47:23 care about the senior center yeah so to
1:47:26 kind of like distinguish indifference
1:47:29 from truly not being applicable and if
1:47:32 there's an an area where we can
1:47:36 truly um understand the the problems
1:47:40 like as an example The Aquatic pool
1:47:43 program looks like there's 50% that are
1:47:47 satisfied and very satisfied uh If
1:47:49 you're sort of a half GL last full
1:47:54 person and then but you can also that if
1:47:57 your last EMP oh is 13% so but then you
1:48:01 look at the senior center it's it's
1:48:04 40 about
1:48:06 30 40% which is lower than the the
1:48:10 aquatics full program in terms of
1:48:13 satisfaction so it just doesn't tell the
1:48:15 full story if sort of the the neutral
1:48:19 not is sking the the resources like you
1:48:23 mentioned earlier the marketing need is
1:48:26 it because we're not reaching the right
1:48:28 demographic versus um we we just they're
1:48:33 just because they are indifferent from
1:48:36 the programs and they're not finding it
1:48:40 they're not being made aware of these
1:48:42 programs versus they're truly not
1:48:44 there's no
1:48:46 more demographic to reach because you've
1:48:49 reached saturation for that particular
1:48:51 Market you're
1:48:53 you're you're deploying the program yes
1:48:56 Andrew you touched on something I spoton
1:48:59 you're absolutely right and
1:49:00 unfortunately the way the survey
1:49:01 question was asked we we can't
1:49:03 differentiate what is neutral versus not
1:49:05 applicable but it's definitely something
1:49:07 we want to take a look at as as we get
1:49:10 into the habit of of posing these
1:49:12 questions and having these surveys is
1:49:15 dig a little deeper and and being able
1:49:17 to differentiate are you neutral to that
1:49:20 facility program or
1:49:23 truly is this just not app PL I'm not
1:49:25 familiar versus I really do think it's
1:49:29 it's so so we unfortunately with this
1:49:32 can't distinguish between that
1:49:34 relatively high percentage in the middle
1:49:38 yeah I it's actually I took this survey
1:49:40 and I've made comment on previous
1:49:41 surveys before but you really need on
1:49:44 program specific stuff you need a sixth
1:49:47 column that is a thing that it says I do
1:49:50 not utilize correct or service because I
1:49:54 was taking this and I was like if I put
1:49:56 neutral am I taking away from as you
1:50:00 look at the results when I see the
1:50:01 results but as as I was putting neutral
1:50:03 on things I have no clue about Senior
1:50:05 Center I've never really excited I'm
1:50:07 like if is my survey result going to
1:50:09 impact how the senior center may get
1:50:11 resources in the future
1:50:13 that feedback that's great feedback
1:50:17 because yeah we want to be more get more
1:50:19 clear on that you're going to allocate
1:50:21 resources based on
1:50:24 very high yeah yeah no it won't be that
1:50:27 nuanced right but you know
1:50:31 um really good feedback really really
1:50:34 good feedback Andre yeah both of you
1:50:36 spot on examples
1:50:39 that we also do surveys for people that
1:50:42 have signed up for programs and actually
1:50:43 been through the programs okay so that's
1:50:47 yeah we need feedback from the program
1:50:48 participants yeah those are ongoing and
1:50:51 we can really dive into some of that
1:50:52 dire hey how was your experience you
1:50:54 know as Brian highlighted we really as
1:50:56 we look at enhancing Rec programs
1:50:58 there's these two big buckets that
1:51:00 really Define that the experience of a
1:51:02 Rec program it's the processes of
1:51:05 signing up registering are you getting
1:51:07 the information you need and want and
1:51:09 know where to show up and then the the
1:51:11 program itself right and I think as the
1:51:14 team is really diving into this is how
1:51:17 do we look at both of those really
1:51:18 important factors of any and all program
1:51:23 experience whether it's a concert in the
1:51:25 green or whether it's a a swim lesson so
1:51:29 hard too because with surveys the things
1:51:30 you find out the most are the negative
1:51:33 like people that are fired up will do
1:51:34 the surve before the person super
1:51:38 happy it is well it's funny I even
1:51:40 reading through it sometimes you you
1:51:42 talk to staff and they'll see they'll p
1:51:43 a one NE com like 300 com did you see
1:51:47 somebody said like that
1:51:50 was and we're all we're all a little bit
1:51:53 that way you something I think hits me
1:51:54 I'm like what a second there might be
1:51:56 1,200 good ones but that one's sort of
1:51:59 stung and that hurt a little bit but it
1:52:01 is by it's good information sometimes
1:52:03 sometimes in all some things to sting or
1:52:06 they have some truth res Yeah Tim also
1:52:11 has a comment
1:52:12 Tim yeah thank you uh so this is not the
1:52:16 first time that we've had uh
1:52:18 conversations around the way surveys are
1:52:21 worded
1:52:23 uh and as someone that did this uh work
1:52:27 as part of my professional life I leaned
1:52:29 into people that had expertise and
1:52:32 training on how to word questions in a
1:52:36 neutral fashion uh and to get the
1:52:39 information that you want and I'm just
1:52:42 wondering do we have that kind of
1:52:44 expertise that can be leveraged uh in
1:52:47 the department or in the city because
1:52:50 there's a real art to be being able to
1:52:53 ask the question in a neutral way to get
1:52:57 the kind of feedback and information
1:52:59 that you're really looking for it's very
1:53:02 easy to word questions in such a way
1:53:07 that you'll get bias or you'll be
1:53:10 suggesting what it is you want to hear
1:53:12 and people will try to give you the
1:53:14 answer you want to hear so having had
1:53:17 experience in the art form that is
1:53:19 asking a question correctly I'm Wonder
1:53:22 what kind of resources a city uses when
1:53:24 putting together these kinds of surveys
1:53:27 questions oh great question Tim um you
1:53:31 know in this case and I probably may
1:53:32 could have clarified a little bit
1:53:33 earlier this wasn't a statistically
1:53:35 valid survey this was more of a
1:53:37 communication piece with our community
1:53:39 so we have a lot of us that have worked
1:53:41 with Community surveys we worked with
1:53:43 our Communications team and fortunately
1:53:45 recently just I worked with a consultant
1:53:47 that was on our um uh po Fe ability
1:53:50 study uh Ballard King and Associates
1:53:53 that also provided some uh you know some
1:53:56 some examples from some Recreation
1:53:57 service they had done so yes you're
1:54:00 exactly right Tim um it is an art form
1:54:03 it is and like said in a statistically
1:54:05 valid survey I know that there's a lot
1:54:07 of time spent on exactly balancing all
1:54:09 of those factors um in this case we did
1:54:13 the best we could with the resources
1:54:14 that we had we had a lot of experience
1:54:16 at the table to develop in those
1:54:17 questions but we were not a it wasn't
1:54:21 balanced in such a way to be to disp out
1:54:24 and Tim if I could if I could add to
1:54:26 because you you're you're absolutely
1:54:27 right I I think there are professionals
1:54:30 much like yourself that did that um that
1:54:34 um we do not have that we do not have
1:54:37 that level of skill internally and so um
1:54:41 something we've talked about as a
1:54:43 department as we do surveys are do we
1:54:46 need to look at again sort of that cost
1:54:49 benefit of spending some money um having
1:54:53 um some external survey writers in in
1:54:56 some of the key surveys that we've been
1:54:57 doing where we've really relied on very
1:55:01 well-meaning well-intentioned
1:55:03 um you know internal uh capacity but we
1:55:07 um you know only have so much sort of
1:55:09 level of expertise and so um that
1:55:13 becomes that budget balance that we'll
1:55:15 be we'll be looking at whether it's a
1:55:17 you know surveys related to some of our
1:55:19 Park projects as we you know will
1:55:21 continue endeavoring and that really
1:55:22 important Community engagement um or or
1:55:25 Recreation surveys uh the same thing
1:55:28 applies right if if we want that kind of
1:55:31 skill we're we're GNA need to pay for it
1:55:34 well Jeff I've recently heard we have
1:55:36 that skill level and expertise on our
1:55:41 hard so the key is you know be careful
1:55:44 how you answer how you ask the question
1:55:46 then be careful how you interpret the
1:55:48 results
1:55:50 because yeah if you ask question and
1:55:53 it's got a little bias built into it and
1:55:55 then you over interpret the results you
1:55:57 can really skew what the TR what the
1:56:00 truth is on a particular issue uh and
1:56:03 you know you most of you I think
1:56:05 probably understand this uh it's more
1:56:08 challenging than you would think and I
1:56:09 understand that things were done with
1:56:11 the best of intention
1:56:13 um but the data is out there you know
1:56:16 it's very clear that you have to be very
1:56:18 careful how you ask questions and then
1:56:20 how you interpret results um so just
1:56:23 wanted to put that on the table oh thank
1:56:26 you Tim
1:56:34 absolutely is that it I don't know is
1:56:37 that it other comment feedback thank you
1:56:40 thank you appreciate you guys having
1:56:42 here thank you all right Jeff you got
1:56:45 one one and a half minutes and a half
1:56:47 minutes awesome uh director's report
1:56:50 just highlighting what something Brian
1:56:52 touched on uh we're in the midst of our
1:56:54 education Outreach for the uh that
1:56:57 potential of expanding the the um jul SP
1:57:00 pool we're actually going to be a group
1:57:03 of uh residents and some pool staff are
1:57:06 going to be at the concert tomorrow
1:57:07 night uh with a a table and a booth uh
1:57:10 just again getting feedback uh we've got
1:57:13 an information page on the website um
1:57:16 and a couple of um questions that we're
1:57:19 we're posing um please push that out uh
1:57:22 we'll be running that through the end of
1:57:23 the month we're already up
1:57:25 to well over a thousand already uh
1:57:28 responses to that so that'll be very
1:57:31 very helpful in US gauging um how we
1:57:34 might want to consider moving forward
1:57:38 that that it that's
1:57:41 it he hit it oh there's a lot lot going
1:57:44 on but we're gonna keep it at
1:57:46 that uh then I guess it's time for my
1:57:48 report which will be very abbreviated uh
1:57:52 one of my favorite moments of the month
1:57:54 is the youth Advisory board report so
1:57:57 Mary when you do get to see that it's
1:57:59 really cool um since they're on summer
1:58:03 vacation uh one of my other favorite
1:58:05 events of the week is seeing things out
1:58:07 in the wild I've seen two black bears
1:58:10 bald eagles and dozen or so deer so if
1:58:14 you can get out there um this is both at
1:58:16 trails and you know more accessible
1:58:19 areas that we have to so that's my
1:58:21 report
1:58:25 and uh let's see any other
1:58:27 business just a plug to everyone to
1:58:30 check your calendars for next month um
1:58:33 if you haven't already let me know if
1:58:35 August 19th Monday or August 26 works
1:58:39 for your schedule um I think great
1:58:41 discussion tonight I feel like we are
1:58:44 going to be in a good place to bring the
1:58:46 park system plan to you all for an
1:58:49 advisory vote so uh for our nine regular
1:58:52 members and our alternates um as many of
1:58:55 you that can be there as possible would
1:58:57 be the best case scenario so check your
1:59:00 calendar send me a little note um we're
1:59:03 just trying to pick whether the 19th or
1:59:05 26th works better for majority of you
1:59:09 again big thank you for all your work
1:59:10 these months on the pl system Plan
1:59:12 update we typically take an August
1:59:14 recess be great it might be an
1:59:16 abbreviated meeting but would be great
1:59:18 to bring that final draft to you um get
1:59:22 your voice on that before we go back to
1:59:24 city council Committee in
1:59:27 September I will be gone for either of
1:59:29 those dat both of those dates okay so
1:59:32 we'll just not that it's that hard of a
1:59:34 job but somebody will need to share
1:59:37 the awesome apparently we have an A over
1:59:43 here yeah
1:59:45 reports
1:59:46 report all the survey
1:59:49 data you ask if it was neutral
1:59:53 okay so with that the meeting is
1:59:55 adjourned thank
1:59:57 you great night