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Monday, July 22, 2024

7:00 PM · 2h 0m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Brief Verbal Update Urban Forest Management Plan Implementation (I) AB 8915 8/14
2024 Park System Plan Adoption AB 8808 9/12
Enhancing Recreation Programs COM 0020 1/2
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of June 24, 2024
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 06-24-24 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave June 24, 2024 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Park System Plan Update
Information / Discussion · 40 min · Jeff Watling, Director Robin Spear, Park Planning & Development Manager Design Workshop Consultants · packet pp.5–15
Topics: Parks
Staff report:
II. Park System Plan- Direction for the Future III. Draft Chapter Outline Review IV. Park System Plan Core Values V. Concept: Creek to Peaks VI. Draft Projects and Prioritization Criteria VII. Schedule Update
4b
Enhancing Recreation Programs
Information / Discussion · 30 min · Jeff Watling, Director Brian Berntsen, Recreation Manager · packet pp.17–32
Staff report:
REGULAR BUSINESS b) A S P R ESENTED TO S E RVICES, SA F E TY A N D PA R KS CO M M I T T EE – J U LY 2 3 , 2 0 2 4 J eff Wat l i ng , Di re ctor
5. REPORTS
5a
Director's Report
5b
Chairperson's Report
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a
Minutes of Special Meeting on May 30, 2024 There being no corrections, the minutes are approved as presented
REGULAR BUSINESS
a
Urban Forest Management Plan Update
Information / Discussion · Dan Hintz, Urban Forest Supervisor PlanIT Geo Consultants Questions and discussion from the board included: Page31ofof32 Page APPROVAL OF MINUTES a)
Topics: Trees
REPORTS
a
Director's Report of July parade and festivities
b
Chairperson's Report and outdoor spaces for the holiday
0:03 okay there it is there we go thank you
0:06 okay 702 we'll call the meeting to order
0:09 I'll start with a roll call and uh Katie
0:13 B has an excused
0:17 absence
0:20 Andre Nicholas
0:23 Lee that we know of yet uh David L here
0:28 Jim Motley
0:32 see him yeah Branda Spears
0:35 here uh
0:39 marene sorry I should know by years
0:43 now um
0:45 Paul uh Mary
0:48 Stevens maybe coming uh Martha gther
0:52 gner and Ryan Olsson
0:56 here that's everybody there for anybody
1:00 uh okay then
1:02 um for approval of minutes I wasn't here
1:05 so I have to abstain but U anybody have
1:08 any uh questions or concerns about the
1:11 last week last month's meeting
1:15 minute okay with that we'll approve them
1:19 uh and now it's time for public
1:24 comments off public comment or just sit
1:26 in no just okay this should be your
1:31 thanks do we have anybody online we
1:33 don't have anyone online for public he
1:36 we are flying through 12 minutes ahead
1:40 now uh regular business uh the park
1:45 system Plan update which is I think
1:47 gonna be presented by
1:50 Robin you over me wow I was fast
2:08 hold
2:26 on sorry technical
2:53 fun all right so time to talk about the
2:56 90% draft review and with us tonight we
2:59 have have L Zang from design Workshop so
3:02 if we have any questions of the
3:03 Consultants please feel free to ask luu
3:05 at the end of the
3:07 presentation um it really does feel like
3:09 we've hit a really big milestone tonight
3:11 you know we've looked at bits and pieces
3:13 of the draft plan and made comments and
3:16 it's finally coming together as a full
3:18 document so tonight we're going to kind
3:20 of review the highlights really quick
3:22 but I want to leave I know we had
3:23 questions that we sent out but I'd like
3:25 to leave more a little bit more time
3:27 tonight for discussion while within our
3:29 40 minutes and then so Brian has a
3:32 chance this
3:33 time um next
3:36 slide oh thank you appreciate it so
3:39 tonight really quick we'll we'll look at
3:41 the plan purpose we'll go through our
3:44 direction for the future uh draft
3:47 chapter outline review again uh Park
3:49 system plan core values we'll look at
3:52 our new concept our plan concept Creeks
3:54 to Peaks uh quick look at our draft
3:57 projects and prioritization crit IA
4:00 again well we'll give you a schedule
4:02 update but I do want to leave a lot of
4:04 time for a discussion and if there's
4:05 something critical as we're going
4:07 through the slides just feel free to
4:08 stop me um and we'll talk about it in a
4:11 little bit more
4:14 detail okay so I kind of want to go back
4:17 over our purpose of a park system plan
4:20 and why are we doing this kind of our
4:22 our who what why of the plan and really
4:25 these plans are created and updated
4:27 every six years um mainly so we remain
4:31 eligible for uh state and federal grants
4:34 it's really important that they like the
4:36 grant officers will be looking at this
4:38 document to make sure that we have
4:40 guidelines we have Master plans and we
4:42 have a direction and vision for the park
4:44 system plan um also at the same time
4:47 we're doing our goals and policies which
4:49 are part of the comprehensive plan
4:51 element there's a park recreation
4:53 element so that's I don't know if you
4:55 remember months ago that's kind of where
4:57 we started a little bit with our
4:59 classification and our goals just to
5:01 make sure that uh the goals we had set
5:04 in 2018 are being carried over see what
5:06 we want to change we made a lot of a few
5:09 really good tweaks in there that I'm
5:11 really excited to start
5:12 implementing um it's also we this is a
5:15 really good check with the community it
5:18 guides the community's goals and Visions
5:20 for the park system so we've gone out
5:23 and we've done um several surveys a
5:25 mapping exercise and just continually
5:28 ask for feedback about about what we're
5:30 developing what you are commenting on um
5:33 and what the community would would like
5:34 to see in the future um it also
5:37 establishes a level of service for the
5:39 park system uh establishes how the park
5:43 system is functioning right now and how
5:45 we want to function in the future and um
5:48 trying to see what the community needs
5:50 are coming
5:51 up uh and it also provides a vision and
5:54 direction for Capital Investments um you
5:57 know as I said in the agenda we're going
5:59 to be looking at um the project list and
6:03 our prioritization and criteria so this
6:05 helps establish that helps clarify it so
6:09 the park planners in the city has a a
6:11 good direction to go in that we know
6:13 that the community supports and can get
6:17 behind and just to reiterate it is not a
6:20 budget document but it helps us develop
6:22 that Capital Improvement
6:25 plan okay so this was on page 12
6:31 the of the plan and this kind of
6:34 condenses a lot of the highlights of the
6:37 plans um and gives us a good look at our
6:40 direction of the future so we have our
6:42 overall Vision uh we can't do anything
6:45 unless we know where we're going and we
6:46 have a good Vision uh we're looking at
6:49 our plan a new plan concept with creeks
6:51 to Peaks uh very important are our core
6:54 values that keep uh resonating
6:57 throughout the plan and resonating in
6:59 our goals and
7:00 policies uh we're going to take a look
7:02 at the goal statements again you know
7:04 we've heard some feedback that maybe we
7:06 need to tweak these a little bit more so
7:08 I'd like to get your input um and your
7:11 take on those uh We've developed
7:14 strategies and then most importantly
7:17 implementation as well because if we
7:18 can't Implement these then our vision
7:21 doesn't hold for the
7:26 future let's see okay trying to do two
7:29 slide that once here okay just looking
7:32 at the plan overall we have our
7:34 executive summary the plan highlights
7:37 like I just went over a little bit more
7:39 detail in there in chapter one we gave
7:41 you the introduction chapter two our
7:44 Park system evaluation kind of looking
7:46 at our analysis of the system as it is
7:49 right now uh chapter three a big one the
7:51 direction for the future of the park
7:53 system chapter four our
7:56 implementation and then uh the
7:58 appendices after that which you know
8:01 kind of reiterates all our community
8:03 engagement what we've done so far and
8:05 gives you more
8:08 detail but we really want to dig in
8:10 tonight into the core system plan or I'm
8:14 sorry the perk system plan core values
8:16 and again this is one that I'll go
8:18 through each one and kind of give a
8:20 little bit more detail we've heard that
8:22 some people don't understand some of
8:24 these or don't understand how they are
8:26 reflected in a park system or in a park
8:29 itself um so please feel free to jump in
8:34 uh if you see something that needs to be
8:35 tweaked just let us know so um Robin I'm
8:38 gonna pause you yeah Tim you have a
8:41 question oh
8:42 Tim yeah thank you I since you were just
8:45 touching on one of the notes I had made
8:46 from the slide deck that we were sent
8:49 was it was if could you go back one
8:52 slide yeah one of this on the slide deck
8:55 we were sent when I went through it I
8:56 did not see an executive summary and it
8:59 just just made the graph on page nine
9:03 which has the whole outline and arrows
9:06 pointing everywhere and it was hard to
9:08 figure out what that meant without some
9:10 kind of executive summary but here
9:12 you're showing an executive summary and
9:15 uh did I miss it or was it not in the
9:17 deck that we were sent it's I I believe
9:20 it's still in process um after we get
9:24 our final sort of feedback on the main
9:28 four chapters that's going to be written
9:30 so it it's not in the draft document
9:32 that you all have currently is that
9:35 correct
9:38 Liu not exactly um I think um maybe you
9:43 can speak that oh sure the plan yeah
9:47 either you or I can the Plan highlights
9:51 are the executive summary I think this
9:52 was mislabeled on this slide but the
9:54 plan highlights are basically that plus
9:56 you have an introduction that will be
9:58 from the mayor or um at the beginning
10:01 that will be added later so that's
10:03 that's that's accurate you didn't see it
10:05 in the present in the document itself
10:07 because it's been titled plan
10:10 highlights okay uh I can understand that
10:14 I just would like to suggest that as I
10:17 went into it and I obviously have some
10:20 familiarity with it uh I think it's page
10:22 nine there's the map showing all the
10:25 arrows and the pointing and the circles
10:27 and it locks context
10:29 because as I came to this I like wait
10:32 what what is all this uh and I think it
10:35 needs to have uh some kind of summary
10:39 that says hey this is what you know this
10:41 is the overarching goal or this is the
10:44 vision it just hitting that without once
10:47 I went all the way through the 100 pages
10:49 and I came back it's like okay I get it
10:52 but where it's positioned I think is
10:54 confusing to a firsttime reviewer of the
10:57 document uh cuz it context uh and I was
11:01 thinking an executive summary would be a
11:03 good way to sort of introduce this
11:05 without just sticking all these uh
11:08 diagrams up there just my two cents
11:11 worth thought I'd share it yep that's
11:14 there thank
11:16 you thanks oh that's great thanks
11:25 then okay so back to our core value and
11:29 I kind of want to dig into this a little
11:31 bit more and see if you have any more
11:33 questions on these but um I think our
11:36 core values have really evolved
11:38 throughout the public Outreach and
11:39 feedback and now they're resonating in
11:41 each chapter so we made a point to keep
11:43 bringing it back in checking in making
11:46 sure we're hearing from that these
11:48 values are still resonating with the
11:50 community resonating with our projects
11:52 and resonating with our vision in
11:53 general um and if we need to just let me
11:57 know do we need to add more clarity to
11:58 these descriptions or keywords or are
12:01 there aspects to the definition that we
12:04 should touch on or bring more out of but
12:07 I'm going to go through each one kind of
12:08 one by one and kind of let you know a
12:11 little bit more about what we're
12:13 thinking um and if it needs a little bit
12:15 of a tweaking so people can understand
12:18 that a little bit better so um first one
12:21 vibrancy to Foster vibrant spaces that
12:23 enhance social interactions placemaking
12:26 history cultural culture and active
12:28 recre ational
12:30 opportunities and through through the
12:32 feedback through talking to the
12:34 community Through hearing from other
12:35 boards and commissions then we've had
12:38 the question of what is vibrancy I mean
12:40 what is vibrancy in relation to a park
12:42 what is vibrancy in relation to the
12:45 system as a whole and the way we see it
12:47 it's seeing a park that is activated by
12:50 all ages and abilities uh providing
12:53 activities that attract people during
12:54 the day uh sometimes at night depending
12:57 on the park uh for Passive or active
12:59 Recreation purposes it's creating safe
13:02 places for people to interact uh whe
13:05 whether it be recreating socializing
13:08 walking meeting and having lunch or
13:10 dinner it's getting people out and
13:12 having them interact together um people
13:15 are really attracted to Green spaces so
13:17 it's kind of natural for people to
13:19 funnel into them and it's a it tends to
13:21 be a we finding a biological need that
13:24 people need with both a physical and
13:27 mental help um you know we kind
13:30 of just naturally gravitate towards
13:33 these green Open Spaces um also ragy
13:37 means placemaking it's where Park
13:38 elements can tell a story of our culture
13:42 our history incorporating Arts uh it
13:46 reinforces the values and interests the
13:48 community has and can introduce new and
13:50 exciting Elements which make a city very
13:52 unique and iconic I I'm sure we all
13:55 recognize certain Parks or certain
13:57 spaces in other cities that a very
13:59 specific element that resonates with you
14:02 or sticks in your memory um there's
14:05 varied amenities and our goal is to
14:07 incorporate new and interesting
14:09 amenities to give each park again a
14:11 unique look or attraction uh there's an
14:14 ecological aspect to that vibrancy um
14:17 and moving forward our goal is really to
14:20 incorporate best manage management
14:22 practices to enhance uh natural
14:25 functions that are there already or to
14:28 create new ones existing ones in harmony
14:31 um and vibrancy is actually measurable I
14:34 did have this question and when we were
14:37 looking at level of service we actually
14:39 do go out into the parks count how many
14:41 people are there sometimes we look at
14:44 age differences or abilities um
14:47 especially on the trail that's really
14:48 important to know who's on what trails
14:51 how many people are on the trails and
14:53 what trails are the most attractive
14:56 ones does anyone have questions about VI
14:59 or do you think we need to add any more
15:02 into that one I have a small note which
15:04 is just that I'm wondering if that might
15:06 be better instead of enhance social
15:07 interaction to encourage encourage okay
15:10 enhance with a little passive or you
15:13 know add on but
15:15 that encourage encourage something of
15:18 that to draw people yeah to draw it in
15:20 that's
15:21 try okay give it just a little boost
15:25 yeah that's great anybody else
15:31 okay so uh next up resiliency to create
15:34 spaces that are resilient adaptable to
15:37 climate change and preserve protect and
15:39 enhance natural
15:42 resources so resiliency so the feedback
15:45 echoed from the community and from the
15:46 boards we're incorporating more
15:50 sustainability um either the word or you
15:53 know kind of resonating more sustainable
15:55 actions we feel that resiliency really
15:58 does that uh a little bit better for
16:02 us um and we really want to make sure
16:05 we're maintaining and enhancing our
16:06 natural spaces so due to the restrictive
16:09 land available um and more acreage being
16:12 along the Creeks or along critical areas
16:15 or natural areas we're going to need to
16:17 start developing Park designs that
16:20 really integrate new methodologies or
16:22 Technologies uh that are going to marry
16:24 that green infrastructure along with our
16:26 active
16:27 Recreation um we're going to be very
16:29 cognizant of this going forward because
16:31 we know we have to start doing this more
16:33 and more uh climate change is a
16:36 continuous involving process uh so our
16:39 Landscapes are definitely going to be
16:41 need to be more resilient and more self-
16:43 sustaining so again we're going to look
16:45 at natural materials uh native plants
16:48 drought tolerant plants where feasible
16:50 but start prepping our our designs more
16:53 for um that climate change coming up and
16:57 then we want to protect the resources
16:58 that we have that are already high
17:00 quality and Performing and enhance um
17:04 and protect the areas that we have right
17:05 now it's something that we've done very
17:07 well in the past we we want to continue
17:10 doing but now we're going to start
17:12 integrating the two much together much
17:15 better okay do anyone want to add any
17:18 more to
17:20 resiliency or look at it in a different
17:22 way for the park
17:23 [Music]
17:25 system sound good great okay next
17:30 connectivity which is really what our
17:32 our new plan concept is based off of but
17:35 to increase connectivity between Parks
17:37 trails and Open Spaces to encourage an
17:39 equitable safe and walkable Park
17:45 system so as a community we we know we
17:48 appreciate embrace the fact that we can
17:51 walk or bike throughout the city and we
17:53 want to reduce our car carbon footprint
17:55 where possible so our goal is to make it
17:57 even easier to get out into the park
17:59 spaces and our open spaces and make sure
18:02 the system is well connected either
18:04 through Trails through multimodal paths
18:07 we know we're going to have to use
18:08 sidewalks that's going to be a critical
18:10 component to be able to connect those
18:12 two um and then start developing those
18:14 green ways to also connect those green
18:16 spaces together we know it's important
18:19 for habitats migration and Wildlife to
18:21 be able to have that connectivity as
18:25 well and we'll get more into
18:27 connectivity and Creeks to
18:29 but any questions or any additions for
18:34 connectivity okay and finally balance I
18:37 know we've been kind of harping on
18:39 balance and talking about balance a lot
18:41 but it's going to be really really
18:43 important for the system so we did tweak
18:45 and this is why I have an italics we've
18:47 been talking about this a lot and
18:49 hearing that we're not really uh the
18:52 statement isn't resonating as much as it
18:54 should as much as we're talking about
18:56 balance and how it should balance but
18:59 we changes to optimize the potential of
19:02 both recreational elements and the
19:04 natural environment in Harmony in
19:07 current and Future Park areas we want to
19:09 Foster Partnerships and
19:11 relationships to develop better
19:13 alignment for Park needs this is
19:17 kind before and after yes yes so the
19:20 before is maximize the park system
19:23 potential for existing and future spaces
19:27 and Foster Partnerships and Rel
19:28 relationships to expand field and Court
19:31 opportunities so it was
19:33 pretty yeah it was pretty specific on
19:36 the the field and Court opportunities
19:38 we're open to bring that back in if that
19:41 feels like something that that
19:43 Partnerships and relationships should
19:44 really focus on for this one um but the
19:47 maximizing system potential just felt
19:49 like it didn't really say anything about
19:51 what we're actually trying to balance um
19:54 and so that's where we sort of made this
20:03 I like the update I think for me one of
20:06 the things we've been talking about for
20:07 the last six months is that we are a bit
20:09 out of balance and so I think we at
20:12 least need to recognize that we are
20:14 striving to reach that balance not that
20:16 we're already there so I think that for
20:18 me is the piece we need to watch out for
20:20 like if you read back into the data
20:22 right of like what our percent of active
20:24 versus non-active looks like in
20:25 comparison to our benchmarks we're not
20:28 there
20:29 so I don't want to lose that fact that
20:31 in this six year plan we redo it every
20:33 six years that we're trying to restore
20:35 balance back
20:42 okay so do you think like just the term
20:45 rebalance or something simar needs to be
20:47 in there to say we are kind of swinging
20:52 back but I think like the intention that
20:54 I liked about the other one is it was
20:56 over about what we're changing okay
20:58 right when you have a vision especially
21:00 if it's a sixth year it's not like this
21:01 live is forever it's like our
21:03 overarching vision which is more like
21:05 which I think this is the overall Vision
21:07 that you want to be in Balance you want
21:08 to optimize it but what we need to do in
21:10 this next six years is refocus what we
21:13 have been
21:14 underfunding so I want to make sure that
21:16 we're clear okay at least from my
21:18 perspective okay do you think that mean
21:21 that we need to go back to our vision
21:23 statement
21:27 also I'm okay with like these are the
21:29 core values I like that but I think we
21:32 need to then be stronger somewhere and
21:33 what's hard about this document to be
21:35 really honest is it's real heavy on the
21:37 brand and the vision and kind of light
21:40 on like tactical plans at least or it's
21:43 you gotta really hunt you know where
21:45 they are to find them and so one of the
21:47 big changes I think this group has been
21:50 recommending is a focus on active
21:52 recreation parks and so however we get
21:55 that communicated in a way that doesn't
21:57 get lost is what I'm looking for okay
22:01 and from what I'm hearing from the
22:02 community it's not just the board it's
22:04 the community saying the same thing I we
22:06 do yeah need to balance our active
22:08 Recreation we're again we're doing
22:10 awesome and we're doing really well with
22:12 open space and conservation efforts and
22:14 now let's put a little bit more focus
22:16 into our Act of recreation and support
22:19 that a little more
22:21 too okay no great
22:24 feedback before we leave this page I
22:27 just going back one but on resiliency
22:30 does that include uh life cycle
22:33 resiliency or maintenance you know how
22:36 long stuff will endure that we invest in
22:39 oh definitely and that's something I
22:40 really work with operations on um
22:43 because really they're they're the kind
22:44 of the first level stewards of our Park
22:47 system and if they can't maintain it
22:49 then in my opinion we don't have a
22:51 success with so really we're looking at
22:53 that that
22:54 longevity uh how it's maintained and and
22:58 we go that later the document it sort of
23:01 gets pulled in within our our goals and
23:04 strategies and then our our policies as
23:06 well um within the the comprehensive
23:10 plan um but maybe something worth noting
23:14 to add here
23:16 in I don't have the words coming to me
23:18 right now but right right and that's
23:20 definitely part of the project
23:21 prioritization and criteria is that
23:25 operational you need to make sure it's
23:27 we're all not here we don't remember
23:29 this in two or three years use this
23:32 hopefully to
23:33 prioritize right like that's like we're
23:35 using to prioritize and Anna yeah the
23:39 goals that fall under these themes are
23:42 incredibly important and goal f is
23:44 maintenance and stewardship that follows
23:46 that follows with a look at resiliency
23:49 and like their life cycle so that goal F
23:53 has all the howto and the strategies
23:55 engaged with that um you'll see that in
23:57 one of the chat chapters here but the
24:00 goals follow right
24:02 underneath um these uh planning
24:05 principles the core
24:09 values and again ties back into our
24:11 level of service and the quality and
24:13 functionality of that Park and
24:15 maintaining that at a high level so it
24:18 adds to the system versus
24:20 detracting
24:23 10 thanks yeah I'd like to just follow
24:26 up on sort of the initial comment about
24:28 the wording of this um it it just seems
24:32 kind of uh mushy and what I mean is you
24:35 know you have optimized the potential
24:37 I'm not sure what that means and then in
24:39 harmony I'd rather have a a more direct
24:42 clear you know
24:45 uh statement without those sort of uh
24:49 fuzzy words in it it's
24:51 just from my background in science and
24:54 engineering
24:56 um and after you reward that so that
25:00 it's a little more
25:03 direct I wonder it it's obviously a
25:06 talized the other ones aren't and is the
25:08 formatting is it are you trying to
25:10 highlight that that's more important
25:12 because so
25:13 therez italicizing it because it's a
25:16 chain from what's in the original
25:18 document the draft document that you all
25:20 received oh
25:22 okay okay well yeah I think that the
25:25 wording needs to be played with a little
25:27 bit just to be a little more direct uh
25:30 in terms of what you're really trying to
25:31 say there because I think those words
25:35 are kind of soft and I'd like to see
25:38 some more clarity around what that's
25:41 really the intention that you're trying
25:43 to drive through there um so that's my
25:47 two cents on that
25:50 one good feedback thank you yeah yeah
25:52 that's
25:56 great so next we going to move on to our
25:59 new plan concept of The Creeks to Peaks
26:02 and I know we've been talking about this
26:04 a lot but just to reiterate that uh
26:07 we're really rebranding and expanding
26:09 the green necklace so it goes uh Vision
26:12 the vision goes Citywide of how we want
26:15 to connect our parks and trails to make
26:17 this a more walkable and Safe Community
26:20 uh we realize that it it will take
26:21 multi- Department effort and
26:23 coordination to make that happen we're
26:25 not going to work on this in as Silo by
26:27 any means
26:29 um and we realize that Partnerships are
26:31 going to be needed you know we've been
26:33 talking a lot about Partnerships and
26:35 because of our land constrain uh
26:37 Community we're going to need school
26:40 districts we're going to need uh other
26:42 agency Partnerships to make that active
26:44 Recreation piece
26:46 happen um and we really want to look at
26:49 within Creeks of peaks look at Key
26:51 functions of the park system uh the
26:53 connected connectivity and walkability
26:56 our quality of life
26:58 uh making sure it's healthy sustainable
27:01 and we have a resilient natural system
27:03 we're fostering social connections we're
27:06 celebrating our cultural piece and our
27:08 art components um but really this is a a
27:12 big jump off and a big take off from
27:15 from the original green necklace so
27:17 we're excited that people are getting
27:18 excited about that is there anything
27:21 else you feel we need to explain about
27:22 creeks to Peaks to get that going or or
27:25 support that a little bit more um um do
27:29 you like our draft vision statement I
27:31 know we've been looking at this and
27:32 tweaking it quite a bit here and there
27:34 um but we've kind of settled on a
27:36 diverse res resilient system of parks
27:39 trails and Open Spaces that Fosters
27:42 connections between people and the
27:43 places they cherish from Creeks along
27:46 the valley floor through neighborhoods
27:48 and wooded hillsides to the peaks of the
27:51 isaa
27:55 outs how does that sound everyone still
27:58 still I have a good question so the park
28:01 system itself is already made up of
28:03 parks trails and open space right I
28:06 don't think you need to repeat it you're
28:08 saying a diverse resilient system of
28:10 parks blah blah blah I think you should
28:13 just say like remove all that and just
28:16 say Foster connections between the
28:18 people and the places they cherish from
28:20 The Creeks to the Peaks I feel like it's
28:22 too wordy a little too wordy yeah just
28:25 for okay what is a park system already
28:29 is a diverse and resilience system right
28:31 don't you're you're telling us again
28:33 what it is we don't need to know that
28:36 right I just feel like it's it just it's
28:40 just it just get I'm like mumbled it's
28:42 like too much for me I'm so you know
28:45 okay maybe just try to make it a little
28:47 crisper a
28:49 crisper I don't know kind of going back
28:51 to what Tim was saying about our our
28:53 statement for balance just a little bit
28:55 more direct and upfront yeah
28:58 okay yeah the point I might add to that
29:02 is sometimes people we do get asked
29:04 sometimes what all counts in parks and
29:06 sometimes people forget that Open Spaces
29:08 are part of the park system so that's
29:10 just something to think about as we're
29:14 communicating not everybody is thinks of
29:16 those things as part of the
29:19 parks and really for this it's it's
29:22 Recreation is a huge part of the park
29:24 system but really we're focused on the
29:27 parks the as an open space it's not
29:29 necessarily the recreation with this
29:31 plan not that it's not coming it's
29:33 coming
29:36 but my
29:42 mind okay oh good feedback that's
29:48 great
29:50 okay and next um I know one of our last
29:54 meetings we really dug into our draft
29:57 project both are near Mid and long-term
29:59 projects um and looked at the
30:03 prioritization criteria and those eight
30:06 criteria um is there anything I know we
30:08 went over those before and we do have uh
30:11 number six operational maintenance and
30:14 Longevity as part of that criteria and
30:16 we ran every single project through
30:19 these eight criteria and that's how we
30:20 came up with our initial list uh one
30:22 thing feedback that we did hear last
30:25 time is fewer projects larger projects
30:29 but finish those projects so that's
30:32 definitely a goal Julie and I and the
30:34 team are are striving for right now and
30:36 moving as fast as we can um but is there
30:40 anything in those projects or in that uh
30:43 criteria that you feel we need to change
30:46 or revisit or look at one more
30:51 time and again this just helps us
30:53 develop our 2-year CIP plan or six-year
30:57 CIP plan but really it's intended to be
30:59 a 20year Outlook so we can really start
31:02 looking at the system more holistically
31:05 and start setting pieces in
31:08 place gives us a good Vision a good M
31:11 sort of master plan for us to look
31:16 at great so we just want to update you
31:20 on the timeline we are in Late July
31:23 already time is flying pretty fast uh I
31:27 I believe public comment closes tomorrow
31:31 tomorrow we'll hear back from the boards
31:33 by the 31st all the boards uh then we're
31:36 planning to go back to
31:38 council soon after that I know we have a
31:40 SE process checklist that we have to go
31:42 through but we are wrapping everything
31:45 up right now so hopefully we'll have an
31:48 approved plan within the next few
31:51 months just a quick word
31:54 Smithy the last slide yeah when looking
31:57 at the prioritization criteria
32:00 yes number three I think it should be
32:05 balance within vibrancy and connectivity
32:07 because if you say balance of you're
32:09 comparing vibrancy and connectivity
32:11 against each other does that make sense
32:13 or I just
32:14 crazy you're not crazy that makes sense
32:17 that does make sense because yeah it's
32:20 not a choice it's not in Nei or right we
32:24 initially have resiliency in there but
32:26 we thought that was so important they
32:28 come out but yeah no
32:30 first now it's within
32:33 yeah thank you we look at these so long
32:37 that just like little
32:42 detail
32:46 okay so I know we sent out these
32:48 questions ahead of time but we really
32:51 like to get your take on what plan goal
32:55 or policy are you excited to implement
32:57 in the future
32:58 um are there tools in the plan that will
33:00 help you as a board in your future in
33:02 your work um and is there anything that
33:05 needs to be changed in the plan for you
33:07 to uh make a recommendation for
33:11 adoption I'll open it up to everybody
33:14 for
33:14 discussion we can also sort of rewind
33:17 and if there are
33:19 larger comments or questions you have
33:21 about the plan document as it currently
33:24 stands um or here we have our
33:26 Consultants online as well to help
33:29 answer any clarifying questions um and
33:32 and take any of your feedback and if you
33:33 do have you know any board smithing
33:37 smithing things we can totally make note
33:39 of them but if there's you know more
33:41 we're happy to take that um by email as
33:43 well the next couple
33:46 days I'll put that up let's tackle the
33:49 first one um are there plan goals or
33:52 policies that there you you seem excited
33:54 to implement in the future or what are
33:56 you most excited
34:03 that I may sort of steal some Thunder
34:07 from people
34:09 but I from my perspective the the
34:12 overall plan you know
34:15 I can appreciate that it has the
34:18 flexible and sort of softer language in
34:21 there because it's got to have a lot of
34:22 room for something that is going to
34:24 happen in the future and we don't know
34:25 what the conditions are going to be uh I
34:28 bet that most of us here you know show
34:32 up and sign up and
34:35 join part of that you know the one slide
34:39 let's see on the agenda it's slide seven
34:43 and it's the picture of the couple with
34:45 the kid in the swing but the fourth
34:47 bullet says provides vision and
34:49 direction for capital investment and
34:51 budget decisions on projects for the
34:53 next six
34:54 years that's the most exciting thing for
34:57 me is is to to see what we
34:59 can manage to afford and you know
35:04 motivate and spur on and then hopefully
35:07 have accomplished in in our
35:09 terms so that that's really the most
35:12 exciting part to me that one bullet item
35:15 execution
35:16 AR see it
35:19 happen we're excited too
35:23 yeah well knowing that this is also a
35:26 20e vision and not our you know six-year
35:29 CIP it's not our two-year budget it's
35:32 not an actual funded Capital project but
35:35 it's helping us get to that Vision it's
35:38 that funnel that we've been talking
35:40 about of bringing it down to those
35:43 levels so yeah we're with you on that
35:47 one as
35:48 well I just have a positive comment that
35:51 I'm excited as a new person here say I
35:53 just moved to this town that seeing that
35:55 this is what the town is wanting and
35:57 we're to go like I wanted a walkable vid
36:01 very social Community is what I came
36:05 here for and so that is I'm seeing that
36:08 in this document and it's making me
36:09 excited and happy to have moved
36:12 here say so I like what I'm seeing in
36:16 this you know obviously there's a lot
36:18 here a lot to digest but the overall
36:20 vision is very positive for me as a new
36:23 CER
36:25 okay one thing I see about it that I
36:27 think is supporting the city and I
36:29 really want to push as hard as we can is
36:32 to preserve and protect and enhance
36:34 natural resources I actually wondered as
36:37 I read through it I at the end should we
36:41 talk more about what we're doing our
36:43 streams our trees how are we doing it
36:46 that is to me Biggest
36:48 Part par system oh that's good yeah yeah
36:53 um I can speak to that a little bit we
36:56 some of that will
36:58 covered within our Urban Forest
36:59 management plan um that Dan hin
37:03 presented at the last meeting so these
37:05 two documents are are really living
37:07 together with each other um so some of
37:10 that level of detail is definitely in
37:12 that document but there there might be
37:14 room here to sort of speak to that a
37:17 little bit more one in the big plan like
37:20 on page like
37:21 33 right like that's where you hit
37:24 pretty hard the different climate change
37:27 wildlife habitat so I'd be curious if
37:29 there's more that we think to add to to
37:32 that component or do you feel like that
37:34 is hitting strong I I actually that's
37:36 what brought it to my mind yes I think
37:38 it I think it's that we're talking about
37:41 what makes you most excited and I want
37:43 to that is to me
37:49 what that's great yeah that's a big part
37:51 of the community
37:58 okay is there a tool in the plan to help
38:00 you as a board in the future or in your
38:04 work
38:07 10 hi thank you yeah so I think just
38:10 having this plan laid out this well is a
38:12 great Tool uh for working with in the
38:17 future it's updated it's fresh it's
38:20 current and uh I think having that to
38:23 keep in mind as we go into the next you
38:27 know year two years three years is a
38:29 wonderful uh it's a wonderful thing to
38:32 lean back into uh so I I appreciate how
38:37 much effort's gone into sort of laying
38:39 out this vision and bringing in all the
38:42 information and all the integration but
38:44 I'd also like to Echo the first comment
38:47 about what really gets me excited is the
38:49 fact is breaking ground making changes
38:52 seeing actual implementation of the plan
38:56 uh the plan's great but we're when it
39:00 the rubber hits the road and we actually
39:02 see physical changes that uh are going
39:06 to enhance our community you know that's
39:09 what gets me excited so like I said
39:12 overall I think just this whole tool is
39:14 a great foundation for the board and uh
39:18 I look forward to working with it in the
39:20 future and I have one minor comment I'd
39:25 like to just put out there there's
39:27 acronym in the slides that we were sent
39:31 NGP and it's in there multiple times I
39:35 don't know what it means and as far as I
39:37 could tell it's not defined anywhere in
39:39 the document so you might want to go
39:42 back in and Define that at some point U
39:44 because it's in there multiple times um
39:48 yeah that's it for now thanks um it
39:51 should be in the overview page um in the
39:55 first chapter I can find it out later um
40:00 but
40:02 yeah okay and it's native growth
40:06 protection native growth
40:09 protection
40:11 easement that is encumbered to remain
40:16 native perpetuity
40:19 yeah so both a spelling out of what it
40:22 is and a
40:24 definition for all of us I mean I don't
40:27 yeah it's in the plan page
40:30 21 um in the part I searched a document
40:34 for it and I couldn't find a definition
40:36 but maybe it is there oh that's good
40:39 that's good we should probably add that
40:41 in that's a key
40:43 component
40:45 open okay real quick if you can just
40:49 flip to page 13 of the draft document
40:54 the document itself yeah give me one 13
40:58 on the PDF or
41:01 uh yeah there's two different the one
41:04 with the funnel that sure
41:07 implementation
41:17 yeah yeah 13 of 107 oh sorry it's PDF
41:22 page 15 PDF 15 think the slide numb
41:24 slide numbers 13
41:35 the only reason why I wanted to bring
41:37 this up is because you like I suggested
41:40 I think all of us are here really eager
41:43 to work in that green
41:45 area and right now we're we are floating
41:49 around in the more ethereal Orange area
41:52 we are up here it's a necessity to get
41:55 us further down the funnel
41:58 [Music]
42:01 correct do you feel like breaking out
42:03 that that green piece a little bit more
42:05 and being a little more I know I'm not
42:07 suggesting any revision
42:10 I'm commenting on where we are in the
42:13 big picture where everyone sorry where
42:17 all of us probably really want to be
42:18 which is you know shovels in the ground
42:21 you know photos of shovels
42:24 maybe St yes
42:29 that's an exciting moment knowing we're
42:31 about to construct
42:34 something okay and then we just I know
42:37 we're running out of time and I want
42:39 actually give Brian time this time um
42:42 we'll hit the last question one more
42:47 time there we go okay is there anything
42:50 that needs to be changed in the plan for
42:52 you to recommend it for adoption
42:55 anything we need to really look at
42:58 revise or
43:01 change enhance it
43:13 all I'm sorry did you call
43:17 me oh your hand is up did yeah yeah okay
43:20 I it broke up though I wasn't sure whose
43:22 name you said um yeah so I brought this
43:26 up before and it's obviously not my call
43:28 but my recommendation is on when you
43:31 look at the uh the planning for the
43:33 different upcoming projects on slide 90
43:37 of the deck we were sent uh Hillside
43:40 Park uh another phase of Hillside Park
43:44 improvements is listed for the near
43:47 term and uh literally we haven't yet
43:51 Broken Ground on what's going to be done
43:54 at Hillside park yet and there was
43:58 significant uh Community push back on
44:01 making those kinds of changes and I
44:04 think having Hillside Park
44:07 another portion of it be done before
44:10 we've even started what's happening
44:15 now is um a little bit overly ambitious
44:19 so yeah
44:20 that's yeah Hillside Park number six
44:24 it's under the
44:25 near-term uh I would push it back a
44:28 level to just let what's going to be
44:31 done maybe starting very soon but let
44:35 what's going to be done settle before we
44:39 start in with another project at
44:42 Hillside park
44:43 because those of us that have been here
44:45 for a while know there was some
44:47 resistance and uh there will be probably
44:51 more resistance I don't know but that
44:54 would be my recommendation to move that
44:56 down a level
44:57 and that's all it's obviously not my
45:00 call and if everyone wants to keep it
45:02 there that's fine but um food for
45:08 thought the is the list in chological
45:11 order like
45:15 that7 like no it was alphabetical order
45:20 yeah not
45:22 chronological oh sorry
45:28 question should it be in is that I'm
45:32 guessing that is by design that you
45:33 don't want to take a stand yet Oni yeah
45:36 I mean we don't know what's gonna end up
45:39 being fully funded within the two years
45:44 of these six-year near-term projects um
45:47 what might end up being you know more
45:51 doable in that time frame um which is
45:55 why it's it's the one to six year sort
45:58 of project not
46:02 specific that's kind of why we we added
46:05 that complexity component too we know
46:07 some of the longer term projects really
46:09 need to start in the near term to get
46:12 them moving and get them through the
46:13 feasibility and
46:17 analys I just I you guys know that I
46:20 always feel like we put too many things
46:21 on this
46:22 list and are we not going to be able to
46:25 prioritize is it 10 things in the near
46:28 term or you're going to be like oh no
46:30 tipet's too complicated let's kick that
46:32 one so that's what I'm worried about be
46:34 totally honest
46:39 with I think that's part of why we did
46:41 bump tibits up 10 year
46:43 term um that's a huge part of the
46:46 community feedback and we've heard that
46:49 over and over that people would like to
46:50 see to that the master plan finished up
46:53 or re
46:54 re-envisioned and again that's a high
46:56 complexity project so that's why we do
46:58 want to put that up in your term and get
47:00 that started as soon as
47:02 possible I'm just can we do
47:07 T good
47:10 point you guys know you're
47:15 B feels like a lot to
47:18 me hi everyone sorry I'm little bit late
47:21 missed the presentation uh just came
47:23 back from city council me really good
47:25 discussion great question Marlene
47:28 I would say in in a best case scenario
47:31 yes 10 or 11 is doable in the near term
47:34 I think practically and understanding um
47:38 it might be really hard to get to all of
47:39 these in in six years um especially
47:43 completing them as as Robin said there's
47:45 a degree of complexity with these but um
47:49 I want to hearken back to the 2018 plan
47:52 and and sorry I missed this conversation
47:55 and if you want to know how this is used
47:57 as a tool please take the time and and
47:59 look at that page where we list the 2018
48:02 accomplishments because I think what
48:04 you'll see in that is a lot got done and
48:09 as we prioritize near Mid and long term
48:11 it's not as if okay this these near-term
48:14 projects are the only thing we're going
48:15 to work on but it really becomes a guid
48:17 poost for us to begin prioritizing that
48:20 six-year Capital Improvement plan um
48:24 knowing that there are there are things
48:27 we don't fully understand yet as as we
48:29 go into these projects um will they be
48:33 the ones that if that you whatever that
48:36 near-term list is that is recommended
48:39 will become our um primary targets for
48:43 the for the near- term yes absolutely
48:47 uh I would say 10 is more doable if you
48:50 we were very intentional um the 2018
48:53 plan had more in the near term than this
48:55 one does so uh trying to I think be be
48:59 practical and and pragmatic but um and
49:03 and respond to the community right this
49:05 this is based upon a lot of community
49:07 feedback um we have a diverse community
49:10 that wants a diverse set of things
49:12 within the park system and so we're
49:14 trying to we're trying to Comm
49:16 communicate a lot in this near-term
49:18 midterm long-term list that isn't
49:20 necessarily
49:23 just what can we get done and not get
49:26 done
49:27 actually it's 11 plus three that aren't
49:30 numbered you guys are
49:35 tricky SL oh is that the
49:38 operational yeah there well there's the
49:41 um Isa School District uh field
49:46 collaboration the first location um
49:52 and
49:55 yeah that's those don't have specific
49:58 locations which is why they're not
49:59 numbered because the numbers actually
50:02 correspond to the map that's earlier in
50:05 the in the plan document so they don't
50:07 have a number because there's not a
50:08 place for them on the map not because
50:10 they're not a numbered
50:12 project
50:16 14 um this is the
50:19 2018 plan accomplishments um
50:29 14 and
50:35 then 17 that we sort of felt like we hit
50:40 from that 2018 plan um some of these are
50:44 ongoing these three
50:47 specifically um Urban Forest our
50:49 donation bench program and operations
50:52 and maintenance improvements um but
50:58 there's a lot of Acquisitions on there
50:59 which definitely
51:02 take sort of
51:04 upfront work and lots of but there's not
51:07 a lot of like ground to like break and
51:10 things to do there right permitting Etc
51:13 none of that kind of stuff happens right
51:16 the global pandemic you know and so as
51:18 as you read that you'll see you know
51:20 that there was a pretty big thing that
51:23 the city navigated that completely
51:24 shifted our Park planning fol Focus but
51:27 um your points well taken and again
51:29 really good um feedback my my
51:32 referencing the 2018 accomplishments is
51:35 is realizing this is a plan that does
51:38 put a big foot forward in terms of what
51:39 our Capital priorities are but it's also
51:42 a a bigger document that sets priorities
51:46 and Community feedback based on
51:47 community feedback Beyond just capital
51:50 projects and so I don't I love all the
51:54 projects
51:56 me WR I think it's a great question to
51:58 ask and you're absolutely right I I
52:00 think to to think success is completing
52:04 all 14 of those in six years that's not
52:06 going to happen it's not going to happen
52:09 but is that set does that set our North
52:12 Star for the projects and the
52:14 compilation and diversity of projects
52:16 that this community would like to see
52:19 done another big governor in all this is
52:22 funding right so so any Capital project
52:25 the three governor are time resources
52:29 and staff resources and
52:32 money and there's not enough funding to
52:35 accomplish all 14 of those in six years
52:38 and so it really is a again a vision we
52:41 provide to the community and then to say
52:43 hey the the rate with which we get these
52:45 things done will be dictated by funding
52:49 and staff and and
52:52 time I personally like setting big Gos
52:55 in a thing like this
52:57 more you know because you don't know
52:58 what's going to go through having
53:00 everything out there that you're trying
53:01 to do is I feel often you get further
53:05 along than if you cut it down too early
53:08 you
53:09 know so I do think it's like convincing
53:11 as much as possible but I still think a
53:13 good list
53:16 that trying for the big big to do it all
53:20 if you
53:21 can we have heard loud and clear tibits
53:24 Valley Park is a priority we agree that
53:27 that Park needs a new vision this park
53:29 we're we're in it we're in part of this
53:31 park needs a vision that really sets a
53:34 course for um its neighborhood about to
53:38 change or in process of changing and so
53:41 this park needs to be ready for that
53:44 that is a high high priority and
53:46 something we'll be seeking funding for
53:48 as we head into the
53:50 2526 budget proc so on that note then
53:54 brought tiit if you go page 52 and 52 on
54:00 the actual key after I think
54:04 50 of the slide deck so I look at level
54:08 of service more a Performance Based
54:10 level of service my question is if
54:12 Central Parks a four how can tibits
54:15 Valley be a
54:19 3.6 and I'm worried the reason I'm
54:21 worried about this is because the price
54:23 tag of tibits is going to be outrageous
54:25 it's going to be huge
54:26 if I'm on the city council am I like
54:30 between a four and a 3.6 and you want to
54:32 spend that kind of money like tell me
54:34 why and so I think I'm just kind of
54:37 curious why we think Tippets is a
54:39 36 it's a great it's a great comparison
54:42 and probably something we need to
54:44 revisit because I would agree
54:46 anecdotally that that Park probably is
54:47 not
54:49 performing at at that close of a level
54:51 to Central no and I think it'll long
54:53 term like I just don't want something
54:55 like that to come in the real
54:58 later
55:02 a seasonal I think it's a failing the
55:06 park works pretty well in the summer it
55:08 works fine in the summer but it's a
55:09 seasonal Park
55:12 versus would
55:14 you something we talk about is St a
55:16 community park shouldn't rely on
55:18 scheduled activities to fill up corre
55:20 and currently that Park is completely
55:22 dependent upon scheduled activities and
55:25 the reason it's not being
55:26 realized that's the reasons we need
55:29 toest because it exactly exactly there
55:31 is that that correlation so it's it's
55:33 def that's a great it's a great catch
55:35 it's probably worth us just looking at
55:37 the those variables again yeah I think
55:39 adding That Into You know that variable
55:42 and while while we're going through that
55:43 level of service handal that maybe we
55:46 need to add that per in what we're
55:49 evaluating
55:50 again oh great good
55:56 great okay I
55:58 think we're
56:00 we time unfortunately I'll let Bri come
56:04 but oh this is great and and like s said
56:06 if you have any other feedback or any
56:08 other questions or tweaks that you want
56:10 to make please feel free to email
56:13 those thank you so much and thank you
56:15 for all your hard work I know we've
56:17 looked at a lot of data a lot of
56:19 information but it's finally coming
56:22 together nicely
56:28 guys thank you thank you
56:32 lot we're still on
56:35 schedule we're
56:37 doing I Chris just keeps the schedule
56:40 down we're good we're good usually we
56:44 just last three minutes yeah true
56:48 um so next item on agenda is uh
56:52 enhancing Recreation programs is that
56:55 right
56:57 sorry I saw presented by Jeff Watling
56:59 but then I knew it was a Brian this is
57:01 mle Brian I I'll I'll te it out but let
57:04 uh the real Recreation expert uh speak
57:07 to this so uh good evening thanks for
57:09 letting us um bring this before you we
57:12 know um we've missed a a quarterly
57:14 report for our Recreation team uh
57:16 they've been doing amazing amazing work
57:19 uh we thought um we take advantage of a
57:21 s of a Time opportunity here to give you
57:23 an update on Recreation um a little
57:26 context of this presentation Brian and I
57:27 are giving this presentation to the city
57:30 council committee the services safety
57:32 and Parks committee tomorrow night um
57:35 the reason we're doing that is one of
57:38 every year within our Citywide work plan
57:41 the mayor identifies sort of her top
57:43 five or six work plan items and one of
57:46 those top items that she identified this
57:47 year was was this topic of enhancing
57:50 Recreation programs and knowing if you
57:53 look at sort of even before the pandemic
57:56 but really after the pandemic uh the
57:58 recreation team has doing been doing a
57:59 lot a lot of review how do we offer
58:03 things what do we offer um and how are
58:06 we constantly on this journey of
58:08 enhancing Rec programs so what you're
58:10 going to hear tonight is really an
58:11 overview of of that pardon some of the
58:14 slides you might see some of the
58:16 questions posed are framed as if because
58:19 they are going to city council members
58:22 um maybe an opportunity as you're
58:24 hearing this and and sort of seeing this
58:26 practice run um you see how we really
58:29 pose questions to council uh we did this
58:31 exact a very similar update uh last
58:34 month when we took the park system Plan
58:36 update to to council committee so um
58:39 this won't be an item we're asking
58:40 action for tonight with you it's not an
58:42 action item that we're necessarily
58:44 asking Council for uh but there is a set
58:47 of questions we'd love your feedback on
58:48 it just you know is this presentation
58:50 clear uh what What's the sense you're
58:53 getting we did a big Recreation survey
58:55 this past summer and starting to dive
58:57 into some of the data with this feedback
58:59 but happy to provide all that that
59:01 survey info to all of you as well so
59:04 with that intro next
59:05 [Music]
59:09 slide R is this one go forward
59:15 yeah my computer oh I
59:19 have I'll just do it
59:22 here wow I figured I assuming user error
59:28 awesome so as Parks Community Services
59:31 Department I think you've heard me share
59:34 this a couple of times uh we do a lot of
59:36 things uh but it really boils down to
59:38 two core values and two core purposes
59:41 that drive our entire department and
59:43 that's we invest in places with the
59:46 stewards of isest parks trails and Open
59:48 Spaces just like we talked about with
59:49 the system plan as well as four very
59:52 unique Recreation facilities um and then
59:55 we invest in people so it's really that
59:58 essence of places and people that drive
1:00:00 what we do um the recreation team as
1:00:03 you're here tonight um are the managers
1:00:05 of those four Recreation buildings the
1:00:07 community center the pool the senior
1:00:09 center and the Pickering Barn um and so
1:00:12 much of what the recreation team does is
1:00:14 really focused on people um and the
1:00:17 programs and services that they provide
1:00:20 pretty amazing team um I'm going to turn
1:00:22 it over to Brian to talk through this
1:00:25 journey we've done on this year but also
1:00:27 the last the last couple of years so
1:00:29 take it away Brian yeah thank you yeah
1:00:31 for those don't Brian B with the uh you
1:00:34 service I'm Recreation manager so I work
1:00:36 with teams like Jeff I said the
1:00:38 community center pool Senior Center be
1:00:40 barn and the athletic and bfield
1:00:43 Rental um and for the record I was here
1:00:46 for a quar of the update you reminds sit
1:00:50 but I ran out time I didn't get time to
1:00:52 put my present I had my presentation
1:00:54 ready we get time time as my so I'm like
1:00:57 yes that's what it was I sit like I feel
1:01:00 like I was
1:01:03 here was awesome so thank you for that
1:01:06 reminder that was funny uh if you go
1:01:08 next slide please really quickly that'd
1:01:10 be great thank you uh the purpose size
1:01:12 presentation is provide an update and
1:01:14 seek input from the park board switch
1:01:16 the services and Safety Committee on
1:01:18 that one on the framework and key
1:01:20 elements of the 2024 work plan
1:01:22 initiative of enhancing Recreation
1:01:24 programs uh we go to the next slide uh
1:01:28 tonight we'll be presenting a lot of
1:01:30 information um and what we'll be asking
1:01:32 from you is feedback on two primary
1:01:35 questions uh those two questions are is
1:01:37 there any additional feedback for staff
1:01:39 to consider while conducting further
1:01:41 internal review and Gathering resident
1:01:43 input about City Recreation programs and
1:01:45 services and the second question is as
1:01:48 we plan for the 2025 B 25 26 budget
1:01:52 cycle are there any considerations or
1:01:54 priorities you would like for us to
1:01:55 address in our ongoing efforts to
1:01:57 enhance Recreation programs we will
1:02:00 bring this slide up again at the end
1:02:01 when we start discussing these two
1:02:03 questions so we don't have to you don't
1:02:04 have to
1:02:05 memorize uh if you don't mind going to
1:02:07 the next slide thank
1:02:09 you uh following is an overview of the
1:02:13 uh presentation topics for tonight's
1:02:14 discussion uh first I'll be discussing
1:02:17 who we are and providing an overview of
1:02:19 the Recreation services division then
1:02:21 I'll be providing a brief overview of
1:02:23 modifications made to our operational
1:02:25 procedures
1:02:26 I'm also going to share some of the
1:02:28 changes and enhancements we've recently
1:02:30 made to some of our programs next we'll
1:02:33 spend some time looking at our community
1:02:35 outreach and Survey results finally
1:02:38 we'll take uh we'll talk about our steps
1:02:40 moving
1:02:46 forward I've actually presented this
1:02:48 similarly to you before about what our
1:02:51 divisions are but I will do it again
1:02:52 really quickly um often Recreation
1:02:55 services a lot More Than People realize
1:02:57 um yeah I can't tell you how many times
1:02:59 I've done out talking with the public
1:03:00 and they like wait you guys do that yeah
1:03:02 we do yeah you guys do that that's your
1:03:04 building the community center the
1:03:05 community center is actually City
1:03:07 facility can't do yeah and there's a
1:03:09 pool yeah there is it's up on the hill
1:03:11 next to the community center right so
1:03:12 there's a lot of times it's amazing that
1:03:14 people just don't realize how many
1:03:16 things the Recreation services division
1:03:17 touches or that it runs the farmers
1:03:19 market and those kind of fun things um
1:03:22 Rec Services consist of five Dynamic
1:03:24 teams as we mentioned before the
1:03:26 community center the pool the senior
1:03:27 center Pickering barn and the athletic
1:03:30 and Athletics and Park rentals uh
1:03:32 together these teams provide a wide
1:03:34 range of services that residents in
1:03:36 isqua residents in Isa in the
1:03:38 surrounding areas uh I'd like to take a
1:03:40 couple minutes tonight to just briefly
1:03:41 highlight um each of these teams a
1:03:43 little bit for you to know what you just
1:03:45 to talk a little bit
1:03:47 about
1:03:50 um it's all on the same stff good uh at
1:03:53 the community center Kathy Jones and her
1:03:55 team team provide special events classes
1:03:58 and programs for all ages and abilities
1:04:00 creating opportunities for residents to
1:04:02 connect and engage with one another um
1:04:04 post covid and with the installation of
1:04:06 wood flooring within the community
1:04:08 center it just continues to see more
1:04:10 growth and its classes and programs in
1:04:12 the m just you know since it's continued
1:04:15 to this day we're just getting more and
1:04:17 more activity there uh some of the
1:04:19 programs offered through the community
1:04:20 center are adaptive Recreation preschool
1:04:22 before after school care health and
1:04:24 fitness day camps drop in activities
1:04:27 along with a wide variety of other
1:04:28 classes and
1:04:31 programs the Athletics and park Reynolds
1:04:33 team is a is responsible for organizing
1:04:36 and managing Youth and adult sports
1:04:38 programs and scheduling a variety of
1:04:39 outdoor active spaces such as fall
1:04:42 fields and picnic shelters located
1:04:43 throughout the community in the in the
1:04:46 last few years the Athletics team has
1:04:48 been excited to add a variety of new
1:04:49 programs including indoor and outdoor
1:04:51 pickle ball and cheer camp as well as
1:04:53 expanding our gliders track and field
1:04:56 and cross country programs to meet the
1:04:57 increasing demand from the public for
1:04:59 this program and we're kind of touching
1:05:02 into that piece we talked about earlier
1:05:04 right we're uh we're the we're the
1:05:05 active pieces of the parks um and we use
1:05:07 them a lot and as well said I always
1:05:11 love more spaces to program right uh
1:05:14 Jared and his team promote physical
1:05:16 health teamwork and social interaction
1:05:18 among participants of all ages and
1:05:20 stages within our community these
1:05:22 programs Foster a sense of community
1:05:23 Pride encourage active Lifestyles and
1:05:25 provide opportunities for Community
1:05:28 engagement uh the jly B pool has been
1:05:31 serving isqua since 1972 been around a
1:05:34 few minutes um I learned to swim there
1:05:36 if you want a little tid bit of
1:05:38 information I'm an exceptional
1:05:44 swi s yeah you don't want to see me um
1:05:48 Zack Zack Leon and the quatic team
1:05:49 provides swim lessons and trainings as
1:05:51 well as supporting six High School swim
1:05:53 teams and two private swim teams for
1:05:55 their swim practice practices and meets
1:05:57 uh the pool was excited to once again
1:05:59 host the under underwater egg hunt and
1:06:01 is looking to providing a brand new
1:06:03 program this year that's a junior Life
1:06:05 part program that will be offering the
1:06:06 summmer due to the increased demand
1:06:08 limit of space staff conducted a pool
1:06:10 feasibility study in 2023 to determine
1:06:13 whether or not additional capacity could
1:06:15 be added to the J Julius bone pool site
1:06:18 the pool feasibility study has been
1:06:20 completed and staff has conducted
1:06:21 education outre this summer to gauge
1:06:24 public The public's interest an
1:06:25 additional water capacity staff will be
1:06:28 providing an update to Council on
1:06:29 September on the education Outreach that
1:06:31 we go in the
1:06:33 summer you think it's since 1972 just a
1:06:38 little bit just a bit I'll ask you a
1:06:40 second question do you think the PO aqu
1:06:45 aquatic you that one thank you I
1:06:48 appreciate it I'll take as M as you want
1:06:50 to throw um since taking over the
1:06:53 operation 2017
1:06:55 the uh Senior Center has been a hub for
1:06:57 socialization and a place where seniors
1:06:59 can connect and be SE uh Kirsten May and
1:07:02 her team provide a vast array of program
1:07:04 offerings that enrich uh the lives of
1:07:07 seniors provide opportunities for
1:07:09 lifelong learning wellness and Community
1:07:11 engagement the senior center continues
1:07:13 to increase its relationship within our
1:07:15 community of ever increasing diverse
1:07:16 seniors for the second time with the
1:07:18 proud recipience of the King County
1:07:20 veterans and Senior Human Services
1:07:21 funding Grant which connects seniors
1:07:23 with much valuable and needed res
1:07:26 resources along with the Summer full of
1:07:28 very popular field trips um we are also
1:07:32 providing um meals four days a week um
1:07:36 and we also provide meals that honor the
1:07:38 holidays and special events that
1:07:39 represent our diverse
1:07:42 populations picking
1:07:45 Barn is destinational Landmark within
1:07:47 the city of isqua providing one of the
1:07:49 most popular and well attended farmers
1:07:51 markets on the East Side in addition to
1:07:52 being a premier site for wedding
1:07:55 weddings and a wide variety of special
1:07:57 events I hope I'm not reading too fast I
1:07:59 feel like I'm on a time crunch so please
1:08:02 to slow me down if I'm going too quick
1:08:04 uh Kelly Diane who runs the bickering
1:08:07 barn and her team have recently
1:08:08 introduced the snap and snap match
1:08:11 programs which provide food security for
1:08:14 those in need uh this year we're also
1:08:16 adding a variety of seasonal
1:08:21 markets you don't mind going to the next
1:08:23 slide thank you
1:08:26 uh Recreation is unique in that it's a
1:08:28 market-driven service um you know
1:08:31 customers choose to participate in
1:08:33 Services the city provides because of
1:08:35 our reputation as a trusted provider
1:08:37 consistent and safe high quality program
1:08:40 so it's hard to you a lot of services
1:08:41 you don't have to choose from right you
1:08:42 got bills that you just have to kind of
1:08:44 pay but people actually choose to
1:08:47 participate with us uh we regularly are
1:08:49 adjusting and adapting to meet the
1:08:51 evolving needs and wants of the
1:08:53 community uh we provide diverse programs
1:08:55 have offerings that are accessible
1:08:56 inclusive and reflective of the
1:08:58 community we
1:09:00 serve and recognizing the trust the Comm
1:09:03 that recognizing the trust that
1:09:04 customers place in us we seek excellence
1:09:07 in customer service by providing
1:09:09 well-trained staff and Quality
1:09:16 Service
1:09:18 uh part of the work in enhancing
1:09:20 Recreation programs has been looking at
1:09:22 our operations to see where
1:09:23 modifications can be made to enhance
1:09:25 efficiency reduce costs and improve
1:09:27 overall performance of customer service
1:09:29 by identifying and addressing
1:09:31 inefficiencies out and outdated
1:09:33 processes some of some recent procedural
1:09:36 changes we'd like to highlight are the
1:09:39 uh scholarship program which was revised
1:09:42 and adopted by Council in 2022 to more
1:09:45 equally serve the ongoing needs of those
1:09:47 who don't have who do not have the
1:09:49 resources participate in our programs as
1:09:52 we continue to share this program with
1:09:53 the community we we recently enhanced
1:09:56 scholarship program making it more
1:09:58 accessible and user friendly for a wider
1:10:00 variety of program participants we had
1:10:02 our uh we have an Adaptive Recreation
1:10:04 coordinator that took a look at it and
1:10:06 in dealing with the Adaptive populations
1:10:09 realized there were some barriers in
1:10:10 that population was having in reading
1:10:12 and understanding and filling out our
1:10:14 form so we did a little bit of a revamp
1:10:16 on it to make it more user friendly have
1:10:17 a little bit of a test group and we
1:10:19 worked with a hand what would make this
1:10:20 more right so we adjusted that form to
1:10:23 make it it's still a super simp simple
1:10:25 but as simple as it was so we're
1:10:27 continuing to make improvements
1:10:29 there uh this spring along with input
1:10:33 from the equity board we implemented
1:10:34 priority registration from for some of
1:10:36 our more popular programs allowing
1:10:39 residents of isqua to register prior to
1:10:41 prog to prior to the program opening to
1:10:44 the public this year priy registration
1:10:47 was implemented with both summer camps
1:10:49 and swim
1:10:51 lists Community feedback reinforces that
1:10:54 we continue to have a supply demand
1:10:55 Challenge and that there is a need for
1:10:57 increase in capacity Within These
1:10:59 programs the priority registration
1:11:01 helped but we still have not we still
1:11:03 have more work to do the high demand
1:11:05 program so we made some gains but
1:11:07 there's still work to be done um this
1:11:10 year sta is reviewing the rental spaces
1:11:12 and Gathering data on usage patterns
1:11:14 pricing rental policies and procedures
1:11:17 best practices and Community needs
1:11:19 following this work staff will identify
1:11:21 areas for improvement and revise the
1:11:23 facility rental processing forms to
1:11:25 reflect the lessons
1:11:32 learned another part of the work uh in
1:11:35 enhancing Recreation programs has been
1:11:36 looking at our pro at the programs we
1:11:38 offer and identifying areas for
1:11:40 improvement leading to enhanced program
1:11:42 quality and more effective use of
1:11:45 resources some recent program changes
1:11:48 and enhancements there are many but a
1:11:50 few we're going to highlight tonight are
1:11:53 the before and after school program
1:11:55 called old schoolhouse rck it began
1:11:57 during covid and was created in response
1:12:00 to uh the need for child care amongst
1:12:03 First Responders and those need to work
1:12:05 outside the home during Co that's kind
1:12:07 of the Genesis of that program uh this
1:12:09 year the program that was that used to
1:12:11 be staff run has now been transitioned
1:12:14 to a third party partner that cares for
1:12:16 children before and after school the
1:12:18 program is you know started one that's
1:12:20 still alive in little to day and it sort
1:12:21 of generated into a new program that's
1:12:23 now actually run with a partner and
1:12:27 uh post pandemic we were able to bring
1:12:29 back a full-time Recreation coordinator
1:12:30 position that's what I mentioned before
1:12:33 for the first time ever the
1:12:34 coordinator's primary respons was
1:12:36 dedicated to Adaptive Recreation
1:12:37 programming having a full-time
1:12:39 Recreation coordinator has helped to
1:12:41 greatly expand the programs classes and
1:12:43 events offered within the Adaptive
1:12:45 Community a few brand new programs being
1:12:48 offered this year are uh within the
1:12:50 Special Olympics programming venue we're
1:12:51 going to offer swimming track and pickle
1:12:54 ball um we've offered in the past we've
1:12:56 offered basketball and softball but uh
1:12:59 adding those extra ones would be our
1:13:02 everybody's looking forward to those new
1:13:04 programs um as mentioned earlier the
1:13:06 gliders program was expanded to meet
1:13:09 increase in demand and is serving over
1:13:11 600 participants this
1:13:14 year that's a lot of Runners I wasn't
1:13:16 one of those that jumped in that program
1:13:17 but there's a lot of Runners this can I
1:13:19 can I add something about that one Brian
1:13:22 great job on all of these um Ju Just to
1:13:24 speak so much of these are either
1:13:27 modifications or or came about with a
1:13:29 lot of discussion gliders is a great
1:13:31 example and that we we knew that there
1:13:34 was interest in running and year round
1:13:36 running and not just at the track
1:13:38 program but cross country uh we ran a
1:13:41 recreation soccer program for years uh
1:13:44 that just before the pandemic we were
1:13:45 seeing those numbers really drop
1:13:48 considerably um and had to make that
1:13:50 hard decision to pay you know we only
1:13:52 have so much staff capacity um when you
1:13:55 even think about running programs and
1:13:57 offering programs so had to make the
1:13:59 hard decision but I think it was the
1:14:01 right decision to say you know what to
1:14:03 grab a hold of year round running we
1:14:05 need to let go of something and so as we
1:14:07 let go of that Rec Soccer program we
1:14:09 realize there's enough Rec Soccer
1:14:11 providers here in the community let's
1:14:13 not be redundant it's been really cool
1:14:15 to see how the communities responded so
1:14:17 now re soccer is still an an option for
1:14:20 family members for residents but so is
1:14:23 this um this running program that has
1:14:25 just been uh very very well received
1:14:28 yeah so absolutely
1:14:32 absolutely um summer camps offered to
1:14:34 the community center extremely popular
1:14:36 and in high demand in 2024 with
1:14:39 additional funding approved by Council
1:14:41 staff was staff offered an additional
1:14:43 summer day camp a summer camp as well as
1:14:46 piloting a twoe Spanish speaking Camp um
1:14:49 implementing prior registration and
1:14:51 adding camps helped but did not take
1:14:53 care of the whole problem and this is
1:14:54 reflect within the survey responses that
1:14:56 we received uh Community Center staff
1:14:59 continues to work toward increase
1:15:00 capacity for residents to these popular
1:15:02 program so once again we've made some
1:15:05 gains but there's still more gains to be
1:15:07 made and that's just acknowledging that
1:15:09 yes we've made some positive steps and
1:15:11 still have more to take still running a
1:15:13 pretty sizable weight list yes right
1:15:15 each we yeah there yeah speaking of
1:15:18 sizable weight list um another program
1:15:20 that's very popular and high demand is
1:15:22 our swim lesson program yeah you Ed to
1:15:25 register for one of those know the
1:15:27 experience I was there earlier today
1:15:30 with some class and I'm getting ready
1:15:31 for Wednesday registration there's a
1:15:33 little bit of
1:15:35 angst listen to a lot of people about
1:15:37 registering for those too and I think it
1:15:39 was our city administer said that think
1:15:41 registering for the summer day camp was
1:15:43 the most stressful five minutes or 10
1:15:45 minutes of the year what was right we're
1:15:49 trying to ease that we want to ease that
1:15:50 for not only our city administrator but
1:15:52 our community at large uh so in 2024
1:15:55 staff increased capacity by offering
1:15:57 more swim lesson classes along with
1:15:59 increase increasing the capacity within
1:16:02 the classes being offer as with summer
1:16:04 camps adding priority registration
1:16:06 increasing capacity within the swim
1:16:07 lesson program helped but it did not
1:16:09 resolve our issue schol staff is working
1:16:12 to increase capacity Within These
1:16:13 popular programs so even more can learn
1:16:15 to school that's what it's all about we
1:16:17 want to teach as many cases we can to
1:16:21 learn uh the Recreation services
1:16:23 division provides a variety of community
1:16:26 events coming out of Co reestablishing
1:16:29 some much loved events and adding new
1:16:31 ones has been has been a priority for
1:16:32 the team this year some of these events
1:16:35 include the down home Fourth of July
1:16:37 that was added this year and bringing
1:16:39 back Bo the barn along with the
1:16:41 underwater EG now the Fourth of July was
1:16:43 run by the city last year but this year
1:16:45 was run by the Recreation services
1:16:47 division so uh our Recreation service
1:16:50 division will be running it forward so
1:16:51 we built on the good work done last year
1:16:53 built on this year and moving forward
1:16:55 service division is in charge
1:16:57 of uh as mentioned earlier the pck barn
1:17:01 implemented the snap and snap match
1:17:02 programs which allow for more access to
1:17:04 farm fresh food along with the food
1:17:07 Access program we'll also be adding some
1:17:09 new seasonal markets in
1:17:11 2024 2024 Market Farmers Market held its
1:17:15 first ever poster contest where local
1:17:17 artists competed for the opportunity to
1:17:19 have their design on the promotional
1:17:21 materials for this year's farmers market
1:17:24 so everything you see Farmers Market
1:17:25 related was an actual contest that uh
1:17:29 artists submitted and it's kind of cool
1:17:31 we're going to do it every year well we
1:17:32 have one our first annual so we'll be
1:17:34 doing it in the future so it's kind of a
1:17:36 fun thing and another fun fact about the
1:17:38 farmers market is we just hit uh 5,000
1:17:42 attendees say on two Saturdays that we
1:17:45 had which is more than we've ever had
1:17:47 and that's I like to remind people too
1:17:50 that even our average used to be around
1:17:51 the 3500s and now more like the 45 but
1:17:55 you realize too that's 9 to 2 o'clock
1:17:57 every Saturday that that amount of
1:17:59 people are going in and out and the
1:18:01 transition of setting that event up and
1:18:03 then by 3 o'clock we're setting up wed
1:18:06 right so the team there does a fabulous
1:18:08 job and running a really great Market
1:18:10 but then also getting out get it out of
1:18:11 there so we can turn around for a
1:18:14 wonderful wedding experience hopefully
1:18:16 and as you mentioned the 5,000 R yeah
1:18:19 and the fact that we're averaging 4,000
1:18:21 it's just data is a great example that
1:18:23 the recreation team is really grabbing
1:18:25 hold of data Kelly Diane and team and
1:18:28 Farmers Market are doing a great job of
1:18:30 tracking vendor
1:18:33 sales you know attendance we've got a
1:18:35 great group of volunteers that are that
1:18:37 are clicking and doing the best they can
1:18:39 to keep track of of folks and so that's
1:18:42 just great for us in terms of delivery
1:18:44 of the program but also as we are
1:18:46 attracting vendors a farmers market is a
1:18:49 is a very um nuanced business is that
1:18:52 you really are playing Cupid that's your
1:18:54 job to bring vendors and fantastic
1:18:58 vendors and customers who are wanting to
1:19:00 spend money and let them enjoy the
1:19:04 Commerce and um I think that those
1:19:06 several years of data have really paid
1:19:08 off and that um again to think we're
1:19:11 averaging 4,000 plus is uh it's
1:19:15 fantastic it's a great if you haven't
1:19:17 been there or if you do go please go
1:19:20 between the food trucks and is is just
1:19:23 every time I go it is a great definition
1:19:25 of community it is just it's it's a
1:19:28 coming and and hanging out for five
1:19:31 hours so great job at the team and some
1:19:33 great food
1:19:34 trucks and the data too we even tracked
1:19:36 the uh we even keep track sort of the
1:19:38 weather right so you know like what the
1:19:41 weather was on certain days without
1:19:42 attendance because it's natural any
1:19:44 outdoor event weather's worse either too
1:19:47 hot or raining you know us see deep
1:19:49 natural but it's kind of fun to track it
1:19:52 to see what the weather was on each day
1:19:53 along with those
1:19:55 the snap thing is a big deal too what's
1:19:57 that the snap thing is a big deal yeah
1:20:00 no that is yeah in 2020 last year we
1:20:02 implemented snap and this year we were
1:20:04 able to get snap match and it's it's a
1:20:06 bit of work for the staff it was a big
1:20:07 lift Kelly Dan and her team Kelly Dan
1:20:09 especially made it l to have our finance
1:20:12 department was great embraced it it's
1:20:14 thank you for ackowledgement because if
1:20:16 you don't know about it was huge and for
1:20:17 a lot of years we were like we don't
1:20:18 have the band we don't have the band
1:20:20 with they like you know we think we have
1:20:21 the band withd this is something we need
1:20:22 to do let's do it and we did it and it's
1:20:25 and it really has provided food access
1:20:27 to a lot of folks and that program
1:20:28 continues when we have numbers on that
1:20:30 too that each week we see more more
1:20:33 people using that and taking advantage
1:20:34 of it which is just really awesome and
1:20:36 Brian I just want to interject too that
1:20:38 I appreciated the parks that that the um
1:20:42 there was Presence at the food bank last
1:20:44 Tuesday when I was there volunteering
1:20:46 and they were introducing it and letting
1:20:48 people know about it writing information
1:20:50 so that was uh that was really good yeah
1:20:53 yeah yeah we're trying to get that work
1:20:54 out there into the community right it's
1:20:56 kind like our scholarship program same
1:20:57 thing right what how do we reach because
1:20:59 a lot of times there's those of us are
1:21:01 connected a lot we have to think about
1:21:03 things a way like well how are we get
1:21:04 connect with those that maybe just not
1:21:06 connected how do we find those folks and
1:21:07 how do we reach them so we're
1:21:08 continually trying to think of the best
1:21:10 ways to do that that's one of those
1:21:11 that's going hey let's go to the
1:21:12 community might want and be able to use
1:21:15 this thank
1:21:23 um she kind of talking about everything
1:21:25 else for my
1:21:27 spot visibility yes thank you you're
1:21:30 thank
1:21:31 you in 2023 staff conducted a pool
1:21:34 pability study that confirmed there is a
1:21:36 strong desire for additional pool space
1:21:38 within our community in 2024 staff is
1:21:42 conducting education and Outreach to the
1:21:44 community to explore the community's
1:21:46 interest in the potential for increased
1:21:48 capacity on the existing pool
1:21:51 site it's part of the work to enhance
1:21:54 Recreation program staff conducted a
1:21:55 community survey from the end this is uh
1:21:58 the community survey from the end of May
1:22:01 through June the 21st the survey
1:22:03 received 818 responses and provided
1:22:05 valuable data and feedback so 818 I
1:22:08 think we were shooting we think hey we'
1:22:09 be doing really well we got on 4500 and
1:22:11 we hit the 800 Mark I was pretty happy
1:22:14 with that um tonight we'll be providing
1:22:16 a quick high level overview of some of
1:22:18 that information that
1:22:24 um some of the key takeaways from the
1:22:26 survey that we' like to share are uh
1:22:29 there were strong levels of satisfaction
1:22:31 with existing programs and services but
1:22:33 with room to improve we'll be discussing
1:22:35 some of those on the next slide uh
1:22:38 there's interest for both new programs
1:22:40 and events there's also interest in
1:22:42 expanding existing popular programs and
1:22:44 services there's a strong desire for an
1:22:47 increase in marketing and Outreach that
1:22:49 is vital and ensuring residents are
1:22:51 aware of programs and services
1:22:53 offered there are program limitations
1:22:55 due to high demand and quick fill up
1:22:57 times which lead to frustration and
1:23:00 disappointment but not for Paul because
1:23:02 Paul got into the swim
1:23:04 list I had like two
1:23:10 alarms thank you there we go uh with
1:23:13 over 600 responses to this question this
1:23:16 table encompasses some feedback on our
1:23:17 current programs how the community feels
1:23:20 we are doing uh real quickly I wanted to
1:23:22 note that there's there's a neutral
1:23:24 section and the the neutral or not
1:23:26 applicable column that refle that
1:23:28 reflects participants you know taking
1:23:30 part in the survey that they're not
1:23:32 familiar with the program offer right so
1:23:34 that that neutral or not applicable area
1:23:37 and you can see this as we look at some
1:23:39 of our smaller more targeted programs
1:23:41 they have higher percentages in those
1:23:42 areas like some of our smaller more
1:23:44 target areas like our preschool and our
1:23:46 adaptive wreck and our uh H which was
1:23:49 other uh the youth before and after
1:23:52 school care yes those have higher levels
1:23:55 on that you know not applicable area
1:23:58 because people just aren't familiar with
1:24:00 those and or don't use those programs so
1:24:04 as we look at the overall satisfied and
1:24:05 unsatisfied columns we notice a few
1:24:07 things I wanted to point out overall you
1:24:10 can see that the satisfi satisfied side
1:24:13 is greater than the unsatisfied side and
1:24:15 there is room for
1:24:17 improvement um looking at the two
1:24:19 columns on the right we see that there
1:24:22 is a higher level of unsatisfied with
1:24:25 the Aquatic pool Fitness Wellness Sports
1:24:28 and youth summer camp
1:24:30 programs um they have just a little bit
1:24:32 higher unsatisfied numbers um the
1:24:35 feedback from the community indicates
1:24:37 the need for increasing programming with
1:24:39 the community asking for more of these
1:24:44 more events more programs and more
1:24:46 opportunities to participate in a
1:24:47 variety of classes programs and events
1:24:49 so what what we saw and read and the
1:24:53 feedback from the survey you know sort
1:24:56 of verified exactly that there is
1:24:58 frustration with those specific programs
1:25:00 because of some accessibility hard to
1:25:02 get into and they would like more of
1:25:05 them um we kind of talked about Farmers
1:25:08 Market which was great but I always
1:25:09 don't mind bring this one up again uh
1:25:11 down there on the bottom left you it was
1:25:14 kind of fun to see there's there's a
1:25:15 high level of participation in the
1:25:17 market as well as you they enjoyed it
1:25:20 right which is really good um because
1:25:23 there's like when you look at the
1:25:24 neutral only 21% of the folks in that
1:25:28 neutral that that's the lowest one so
1:25:30 most people had at least some familiar
1:25:33 familiarity with the farmers market
1:25:35 which I thought was just a pretty neat
1:25:37 thing to
1:25:38 see your senior center looks good too
1:25:41 right yeah yeah that's a great great
1:25:45 story thank you for pointing that out um
1:25:48 for those have been around you may
1:25:49 recall we became the direct operator of
1:25:52 the senior center in 2017 2018 it was a
1:25:57 contentious uh to say the least um
1:26:01 environment uh down there there was a
1:26:03 third party operator who had long done
1:26:05 it the center was feeling very exclusive
1:26:07 you either sort of in the group or out
1:26:09 of the group um um and you know I would
1:26:13 say since that time it was really a a
1:26:16 goal of ours um as we were asked to sort
1:26:19 of step in and provide some interim
1:26:21 operation at first and now the long-term
1:26:24 permanent operation to really try and
1:26:26 flip the culture to really make that a
1:26:29 safe inviting accessible space and U you
1:26:32 know seeing that feedback um there's a
1:26:35 lot of written feedback um wrting
1:26:38 qualitative feedback that went with the
1:26:40 survey about 600 of the 800 people took
1:26:42 the time to give us some written
1:26:44 feedback that Brian will touch on on the
1:26:46 next slide that a lot of very heartfelt
1:26:49 appreciation for the senior center so
1:26:51 again a a relatively new operation for
1:26:55 uh the recreation team but uh something
1:26:58 that um again is the pros that they are
1:27:01 just make it um look
1:27:04 easy yeah great the team at the senior
1:27:07 center is outstanding and it's yeah it's
1:27:08 a different environment now it's a
1:27:10 you've been in there and you only be
1:27:13 55 some of us there even younger yeah
1:27:18 that yeah there's no anybody is welcome
1:27:21 and they do have great lunches so
1:27:24 yeah they really do have to go Tuesday
1:27:25 through Friday it's by the staff at the
1:27:27 senior center and like six five six
1:27:30 bucks something like that
1:27:32 they no they don't they
1:27:36 don't I love it uh if you next slide
1:27:41 there we go uh through writing questions
1:27:44 asking what would increase customer
1:27:45 satisfaction and program ideas customers
1:27:48 would like to see Four Strong threads
1:27:50 came out through this feedback uh first
1:27:52 there was a there's a desire for more
1:27:54 community events social activities that
1:27:56 bring people together and connect our
1:27:58 community uh we also see an interest in
1:28:00 More arts cultural environmental
1:28:02 programs really they just really stood
1:28:04 out people wanting to come together want
1:28:06 to have more you know sort of diverse
1:28:08 programming the Arts culture envir and
1:28:11 environment uh next two prominent age
1:28:14 groups stood out additional teen and
1:28:17 Senior programming is highly
1:28:20 desired is witnessed by
1:28:24 that middle school age is something that
1:28:26 we're continuing to develop our
1:28:29 relationship and engage with the the
1:28:31 school district and figure out how can
1:28:33 we be a real partner and asset to them
1:28:37 for either after school middle middle
1:28:39 school activities or evening middle
1:28:41 school
1:28:43 activities yes yeah we just got the
1:28:45 dancers back last year those are just
1:28:48 what bring memor stuff right um it's fun
1:28:52 they kids have a great time and yeah
1:28:54 it's how do we keep those not not having
1:28:57 Idle Hands it's that you know having
1:28:59 kids get have those activities that
1:29:01 middle school age is such an important
1:29:02 one to keep them busy and active and
1:29:04 engaged with something that's
1:29:06 positive um there's a strong desire for
1:29:09 parent increase Sports and Fitness
1:29:11 opportunities including more
1:29:12 Recreational Sports health and fitness
1:29:14 classes and programs additional sports
1:29:16 facilities and additional fitness
1:29:18 equipment in the community center uh the
1:29:21 the Sports and Fitness also have a lot
1:29:23 of crossover with the teens and seniors
1:29:24 where a lot of those same desires for
1:29:26 that programming was also in the teens
1:29:29 and seniors category as
1:29:31 well you that middle school age where
1:29:34 competitive competitive Sports aren't
1:29:36 necessarily the track but there's still
1:29:38 a desire for you know how might we do an
1:29:41 inter mural an inter mural type type you
1:29:45 know sports for for that Middle School
1:29:48 absolutely Tim's got his hand up oh yeah
1:29:51 Tim hey thank you yeah so so you've put
1:29:54 a lot of numbers up here and we've
1:29:55 talked about usage I know places like
1:29:58 the senior center the pool the community
1:30:01 center uh especially the pool and the
1:30:03 community center they track traffic
1:30:05 going in and out and I wonder if you
1:30:07 have data showing like increase you know
1:30:10 foot traffic coming in or you know into
1:30:13 the pool into the community center how
1:30:15 it might vary over the course of the
1:30:17 year and how it varies from year to year
1:30:20 which would help justify improvements
1:30:23 and EXP expansion of the programs if you
1:30:25 could show look at the you know the
1:30:28 increase in usage we're seeing tell Max
1:30:32 though unfortunately like pool like
1:30:35 every single s lesson is full done yeah
1:30:37 the is pretty full but we can check we
1:30:39 have to do a little digging to because
1:30:41 we have it all it all registers to the
1:30:42 registration program except for our
1:30:44 drop-ins and such there's drop-ins that
1:30:46 don't get tracked so there would be some
1:30:47 traffic there we wouldn't but yeah no
1:30:49 that's a good one I I took a note of
1:30:50 that thank you Tim
1:30:54 question about the um Team programs do
1:30:56 we have any way of actually serving kids
1:31:00 or having a community board of kids that
1:31:04 have opinions
1:31:05 on programs and like the Idle Hands
1:31:08 thing asking the middle schoolers what
1:31:12 would be interesting because as we know
1:31:13 things have changed so much oh totally
1:31:16 we do some of that our youth ADV no
1:31:19 that's what I'm asking yeah we have like
1:31:21 40 or 50 kids represent all the middle
1:31:24 schools and high schools that come
1:31:25 together more of the leadership program
1:31:27 is really what it is okay and then they
1:31:29 also plan and put together program it's
1:31:31 really it's been around I was talking
1:31:32 more about the enhancing more stuff for
1:31:34 you over night but the youth it' be fun
1:31:37 to have them come here and talk just
1:31:38 about that program in the years because
1:31:40 it does some pomal work it's touched
1:31:42 kids lives in so many different cool
1:31:44 ways um yeah it's a really cool Outreach
1:31:48 of those of that Advisory Board you know
1:31:50 like if you look at the asbs at middle
1:31:52 school and high school they are the kids
1:31:54 that are already leaders are these kids
1:31:57 that are also very say they fall tend to
1:32:00 fall in that same yeah okay I just
1:32:02 wonder there's but is they're speaking
1:32:04 for their peers as we're trying to get
1:32:07 feedback you you'll notice in the in the
1:32:09 school year we'll have um one or two
1:32:11 youth advisory reps on the park board so
1:32:14 that's great we'll have a new group of
1:32:17 them coming uh coming this fall but
1:32:20 great resource yes to ask them yeah some
1:32:23 these exact same things yeah and even
1:32:26 like the after school care um I know in
1:32:28 elementary schools but in Middle School
1:32:30 it doesn't exist like it's pre they have
1:32:34 right coming out
1:32:36 Co lost the funding in at IMs but they a
1:32:40 lot of the kids that are really really
1:32:42 struggling and causing a lot of
1:32:44 community problems later have none of
1:32:46 this extra cular stuff and so it may be
1:32:49 an idea to talk the principal I know is
1:32:52 super open to all of this but having a
1:32:54 couple of kids that are leaders that are
1:32:57 not on ASP but that are struggling
1:32:59 populations Jay-Z yeah yeah I
1:33:04 can they're getting it the vice
1:33:06 principal at I is gonna be the D IMS
1:33:09 this next year
1:33:11 she yes I heard that that's awesome get
1:33:14 her yes oh my gosh that's
1:33:18 outstanding um as mentioned in earlier
1:33:21 slides there's also strong desire for
1:33:22 swim lessons incre pool capacity and
1:33:25 additional qu
1:33:27 facilities go to the next
1:33:30 one thank you moving forward enhancing
1:33:33 Recreation programs is an ongoing effort
1:33:35 it's uh it's rooting our past it's
1:33:37 driving our present and shaping our
1:33:39 future uh this is not a one-year task
1:33:41 but a continual journey to enrich the
1:33:43 lives of our residents through quality
1:33:45 Recreation services um some of our KCK
1:33:47 steps are to uh assess feedback given in
1:33:51 the survey and identify the areas most
1:33:53 requested by the community and to
1:33:55 examine opportunities for future
1:33:57 programs we're going to develop budget
1:33:59 and resources to support additional
1:34:02 programming this working to develop our
1:34:04 budget so that we can support additional
1:34:06 programming uh maintaining an open
1:34:08 mindset regarding program imple
1:34:10 implementation and paying attention to
1:34:12 the existing programs and their life
1:34:15 cycles um you this is acknowledging when
1:34:18 uh you when a program may have reached
1:34:19 the end of its life or began to feel a
1:34:21 little stale or stagnant you know it's
1:34:23 so staff will need to evaluate whether
1:34:25 or not it's time to allocate those
1:34:27 programs resources into other
1:34:29 programming or New Opportunities right
1:34:30 so that's kind of a some where you
1:34:32 always have to pay attention to Jeff
1:34:33 mentioned it with the soccer right and
1:34:35 as you're seeing things start to
1:34:37 decrease and there was already that need
1:34:39 was already kind filled with the
1:34:40 community at a time we were very
1:34:42 relevant in that in that need fulfilling
1:34:45 that and then we got to a point where it
1:34:46 wasn't as much need so always evaluating
1:34:49 things to see that if they do slow down
1:34:51 it become you know sometimes like you
1:34:53 talk like the horse is dead sometimes
1:34:55 you're going to jump off it right so if
1:34:57 if the program everything has a life
1:34:58 cycle and sometimes you can reinvigorate
1:35:00 those other times it's just around its
1:35:02 course or somebody else in the community
1:35:04 often what happen is we introduce people
1:35:06 a lot of times to things for the first
1:35:07 time we're not we're not trying to own
1:35:09 any Industries you know we do
1:35:10 introductory karate classes if you
1:35:12 really want to go do karate well by all
1:35:14 means go to a karate club right um but
1:35:16 we like to introduce people at a price
1:35:18 they can afford and to see if they
1:35:20 really like and enjoy it that's kind of
1:35:21 a lot of times of wages we feel lot abs
1:35:26 experien
1:35:27 um lastly developing the Cadence for
1:35:30 engaging with the community about
1:35:31 Recreation programs and services and
1:35:34 making it a part of our planning efforts
1:35:37 uh that reaching out to the community
1:35:39 through our survey hearing back from the
1:35:41 community doing some of this Outreach
1:35:43 where we're talking to people you know
1:35:44 get a little bit more just you know we
1:35:46 have a pretty good flavor because we
1:35:47 listen to the customers we're talking to
1:35:48 them when they come into our buildings
1:35:49 when they're in our programs we listen
1:35:51 very very well but to actually engage it
1:35:53 and reach out for it is something that
1:35:55 we found very beneficial we've got some
1:35:57 great feedback from this most recent
1:35:58 survey uh people engaged with it we got
1:36:01 a lot of responses so yeah we found it
1:36:02 to be very very valuable want to
1:36:04 continue doing that you know on a multi
1:36:06 maybe every three to four year type of
1:36:08 process to just sort of hey how are we
1:36:10 doing you know are we doing the things
1:36:11 you want us to be doing what else would
1:36:12 you like and in all fairness it's a real
1:36:15 cheap way to get some great ideas
1:36:16 sometimes people just you're hey why
1:36:18 don't you I love why don't you m i don't
1:36:20 understand why you guys don't my ears
1:36:22 always pop up because that's when get
1:36:24 sometimes because someone say why don't
1:36:25 you like the heck I think maybe we
1:36:28 should do that why don't
1:36:33 you do it good Rangers we have one or
1:36:38 now one full time one fulltime and one
1:36:40 part-time we do yeah use them for junior
1:36:44 Ranger oh like a junior Ranger program
1:36:47 yes where a lot of boys girls don't like
1:36:50 the sports or the sports they could go
1:36:53 out ra is very educational it would be
1:36:55 additional people in our Parks helping
1:36:58 with what the Rangers do and maybe
1:36:59 developing through
1:37:03 aspirations I don't know how the Rangers
1:37:06 are I love it I love
1:37:09 it yeah they're doing a number of
1:37:11 Education Outreach um speaking
1:37:15 opportunities um they Cas feading a
1:37:18 family hike uh in a couple of days uh
1:37:21 through tradition plateau and so they're
1:37:23 they're working on that programming AR
1:37:26 yeah that's why talk talk
1:37:30 about these kids on hies and I thought
1:37:33 we need programs for the boys and girls
1:37:36 that don't have anything to do and if
1:37:39 they could become a junior
1:37:41 Ranger or something and learn about the
1:37:43 trees and the streams and help help the
1:37:46 Rangers in their jobs sort of getting
1:37:48 out of those traditional modes of
1:37:50 programs I can use certain yeah
1:37:53 CU like said you touched on us people
1:37:55 some some of those youth are already
1:37:57 involved so how do we get the ones that
1:37:59 aren't involved do you have any
1:38:01 connection to the teen
1:38:03 garage yeah I mean we are right across
1:38:05 the street from them and we work with
1:38:07 Kaylee on the r um and talk to her
1:38:11 about yeah so from the yeah from the
1:38:13 very beginning we were really partners
1:38:16 with that's that's City that's a city
1:38:18 space that they that they have contract
1:38:21 contract with us and so yeah they're
1:38:23 they're great partners and do really
1:38:25 good work their focus is high schoolers
1:38:27 yeah um but but those kids would be
1:38:30 great they're also people that need
1:38:31 things to do sure oh to we coordinate
1:38:34 with them on some they use like a stage
1:38:37 up for the community center go on for
1:38:39 some different activities we try to you
1:38:40 know share a sharing space right it's
1:38:42 all yeah great partners for outreach as
1:38:44 well in fact Robin I know you took part
1:38:47 in a um part of our Park system plan
1:38:49 that we were just talking about had a
1:38:51 couple of sort of interview um
1:38:54 times with some of the students there at
1:38:57 the I say it's really great because
1:39:00 there is a class that a lot of them have
1:39:02 to take or take at NBC which is a hiking
1:39:04 class so that's a good way to integrate
1:39:06 both together um and a lot of kids don't
1:39:09 take it because they aren't geared up so
1:39:11 that's good to know too that they aren't
1:39:12 getting out there because they don't
1:39:14 have the right shoes or jackets or
1:39:16 backpacks so you know teaching them what
1:39:19 to bring and where to get back would be
1:39:21 really really critical
1:39:23 just a really
1:39:25 question say community feedback Cadence
1:39:28 and I know we talked about the survey
1:39:29 that went out course if you do a General
1:39:31 survey you're gonna get you know a
1:39:33 little you're gonna get a lot more in
1:39:34 the community but I was curious since
1:39:37 we've been talking so much about kids
1:39:39 and kind of focusing on them are do you
1:39:41 guys reach out or talk to the PT like
1:39:44 the actual PTA meetings in some of the
1:39:47 elementary or middle
1:39:50 school we have not short
1:39:53 yeah it would be a great resource we
1:39:55 would love to tap into the PTA Network
1:39:57 just get on the agenda and just say
1:39:59 hey I mean I know it's a
1:40:03 lot people but I just think it's
1:40:06 a no longer an elementary school or high
1:40:10 school you know in the school district I
1:40:11 know you're only getting a smaller
1:40:13 population but but boy I think that's a
1:40:15 that's a really uh a a really good easy
1:40:19 way for you to tap into uh
1:40:24 great point because we we deal with the
1:40:25 PT all the time like we Host this
1:40:27 Foundation Community Center um we have
1:40:30 ptas at rent and need our facilities on
1:40:32 regulars different types of things so
1:40:34 yeah we cross over a lot with PT but
1:40:36 yeah know and that not have to check I
1:40:39 think Kathy has actually gone and done a
1:40:40 little
1:40:41 bit has done some discussions with the
1:40:44 PTA and whatnot so up for looking but
1:40:46 that's a great that's if you like really
1:40:48 wanted to get some information you could
1:40:50 just say hey you know we're we're here
1:40:52 for you and got this quick survey or you
1:40:55 do an informal poll you do all kinds of
1:40:58 stuff even just to get to know the exact
1:41:00 board and then they
1:41:02 put every single
1:41:05 they school has been very
1:41:08 support with them and a lot of crossover
1:41:11 they they're very supportive work and
1:41:13 efforts that we put for then we go back
1:41:16 and right because they they want their
1:41:18 child to be active and take advantage to
1:41:20 all the great things that you guys are I
1:41:24 did yeah oh thank you that's awesome um
1:41:29 if you don't want to go next slide
1:41:30 really quickly uh below are the topics
1:41:33 we discussed as we move into uh
1:41:36 Direction needed we'd be happy to answer
1:41:38 and discuss any questions that you may
1:41:40 have if you'll BCE the last
1:41:42 slide thank
1:41:46 you and we're at the direction needed
1:41:49 one is there any additional feedback for
1:41:51 staff to consider while conducting
1:41:53 further internal review and Gathering
1:41:55 resident input about City Recreation
1:41:57 programs and services two as we plan for
1:42:00 the 25 26 budget cycle are there any
1:42:03 considerations or priorities you would
1:42:05 like for us to address in our ongoing
1:42:06 efforts to enhance Recreation
1:42:09 programs we've had some discussion
1:42:11 throughout the me but you know always it
1:42:14 goes you know the way we work is it goes
1:42:16 beyond the meeting too I mean you know
1:42:17 you guys know us all well enough if you
1:42:19 can hear things or ideas shoot us an
1:42:21 email give phone call always happy to
1:42:23 discuss and talk about different ideas
1:42:25 like I said I I don't know if I'm the
1:42:27 world's best idea generator but I know
1:42:29 good ideas when I hear them so i' love
1:42:31 to hear a good ideas so got a
1:42:35 question spurred by your comment but uh
1:42:38 Gibs NE kids they have like these
1:42:40 internship programs
1:42:44 yeah perfect we' had some done at the
1:42:47 cior center pool Community Center yeah
1:42:51 Arts Forestry
1:42:55 pull from a a different group of kids
1:42:58 yeah which know we've had some that's
1:42:59 worked out really really
1:43:01 well that's a cool program I love your
1:43:04 idea of
1:43:05 having the inter mural ideas in middle
1:43:09 school and high school I have so many
1:43:11 clients that want to start playing
1:43:13 something or and it reminds me of when
1:43:15 my kids were little we came down at did
1:43:17 the sport s both of my and it was so
1:43:20 great because they could just be in a
1:43:22 sport for a we we and just try it and
1:43:25 teenagers think that because if they
1:43:27 commit to a sport with their family and
1:43:29 any family will say well you can't quit
1:43:32 if I if quit this when you hate it
1:43:34 you're going and so they won't start
1:43:36 anything in middle school and high
1:43:37 school because by the time they get
1:43:39 there they're scared to death they'll
1:43:40 have to be in there for three months or
1:43:42 whatever it is be intimidated too oh
1:43:45 yeah and all yeah all these select kids
1:43:47 coming in right so I love that idea just
1:43:49 having these beginner Sports it's that
1:44:00 middle I should noed I'm sort of looking
1:44:02 at our we do like art classes and that
1:44:05 kind of
1:44:06 stuff yeah small yeah we don't do a ton
1:44:09 that's that's an area too that we could
1:44:11 do more definitely and we can do more
1:44:14 and the community would like more of
1:44:16 that type of work do you still rent out
1:44:19 rooms in the community center to like
1:44:21 you took like music classes there but
1:44:23 they were through a contracted like Z
1:44:26 Nest or something like that yeah oh
1:44:29 talking I can't remember but it's yeah
1:44:31 yes we do that and sometimes those are
1:44:32 programs run in conjunction with us they
1:44:34 part organizations we partner with that
1:44:36 variety of different entities because
1:44:38 you know we shoot for one of three
1:44:39 things right either we run it directly
1:44:41 right we partner with somebody to run
1:44:43 something or we point them in the
1:44:45 direction of where you can find Serv
1:44:47 it's usually what we try to so
1:44:48 somebody's looking for something that's
1:44:49 we try to one those Bank like we don't
1:44:51 provide it we don't partner somebody
1:44:53 provides it we try to help them find
1:44:55 work the they can get that resource be
1:44:58 an interesting data point too s is
1:45:01 really should demonstrating this balance
1:45:04 between
1:45:05 contracted programs partner programs
1:45:08 provide and direct programs we provide
1:45:10 it's a it's a pretty healthy balance
1:45:12 between both of those allows us to offer
1:45:16 more to the
1:45:18 community
1:45:19 direct well that also plays in the
1:45:21 program evation p too like you know what
1:45:24 points maybe we is it better or wiser to
1:45:26 partner with an organization to free up
1:45:29 bandwidth in order to do other
1:45:30 programing
1:45:32 services and do you when you do that do
1:45:34 you charge rent to those people how does
1:45:36 that work it's a fee based it's often a
1:45:39 percentage split
1:45:42 okay and that's pretty common amongst
1:45:44 all cities partner and are the rooms in
1:45:48 the committee that does it close at a
1:45:49 certain time and the rooms can't be
1:45:51 rented at 90 or how does that well we're
1:45:53 open till 9:00 right
1:45:58 so chamber letting people know that
1:46:02 those rooms are
1:46:03 available oh the chamber has rooms for
1:46:05 it no no no the the community oh yeah
1:46:08 letting the chamber letting the
1:46:09 networking groups in Aon know because
1:46:12 there's a whole there's like I think of
1:46:14 therapists that just have this tiny
1:46:15 little office they're always looking for
1:46:17 Rooms To Do groups or things like that
1:46:19 but knowing that they can partner with
1:46:20 you to provide something like that was
1:46:23 one of our procedural um sort of reviews
1:46:25 we're doing is taking a really holistic
1:46:28 look at how all of our facility rentals
1:46:30 so all the room rentals at the community
1:46:33 center the senior center right um and a
1:46:36 number of other buildings and creating
1:46:38 sort about a One Stop resource guide and
1:46:42 making sure we really benefiting the
1:46:45 in exactly that be
1:46:49 amazing Brian I just have feedback on
1:46:53 internal review and Gathering resident
1:46:55 input so maybe you can go to the survey
1:46:59 so I'm you called it out earlier the way
1:47:02 that neutral and non applicable is is
1:47:05 this the way that you combine the result
1:47:07 or the way that you repost the question
1:47:09 I'm just curious if we're distinguishing
1:47:12 indifference from they're truly not
1:47:15 applicable to you like I can be I I
1:47:18 don't have to go to the senior center or
1:47:20 maybe I'm a senior person but I don't
1:47:23 care about the senior center yeah so to
1:47:26 kind of like distinguish indifference
1:47:29 from truly not being applicable and if
1:47:32 there's an an area where we can
1:47:36 truly um understand the the problems
1:47:40 like as an example The Aquatic pool
1:47:43 program looks like there's 50% that are
1:47:47 satisfied and very satisfied uh If
1:47:49 you're sort of a half GL last full
1:47:54 person and then but you can also that if
1:47:57 your last EMP oh is 13% so but then you
1:48:01 look at the senior center it's it's
1:48:04 40 about
1:48:06 30 40% which is lower than the the
1:48:10 aquatics full program in terms of
1:48:13 satisfaction so it just doesn't tell the
1:48:15 full story if sort of the the neutral
1:48:19 not is sking the the resources like you
1:48:23 mentioned earlier the marketing need is
1:48:26 it because we're not reaching the right
1:48:28 demographic versus um we we just they're
1:48:33 just because they are indifferent from
1:48:36 the programs and they're not finding it
1:48:40 they're not being made aware of these
1:48:42 programs versus they're truly not
1:48:44 there's no
1:48:46 more demographic to reach because you've
1:48:49 reached saturation for that particular
1:48:51 Market you're
1:48:53 you're you're deploying the program yes
1:48:56 Andrew you touched on something I spoton
1:48:59 you're absolutely right and
1:49:00 unfortunately the way the survey
1:49:01 question was asked we we can't
1:49:03 differentiate what is neutral versus not
1:49:05 applicable but it's definitely something
1:49:07 we want to take a look at as as we get
1:49:10 into the habit of of posing these
1:49:12 questions and having these surveys is
1:49:15 dig a little deeper and and being able
1:49:17 to differentiate are you neutral to that
1:49:20 facility program or
1:49:23 truly is this just not app PL I'm not
1:49:25 familiar versus I really do think it's
1:49:29 it's so so we unfortunately with this
1:49:32 can't distinguish between that
1:49:34 relatively high percentage in the middle
1:49:38 yeah I it's actually I took this survey
1:49:40 and I've made comment on previous
1:49:41 surveys before but you really need on
1:49:44 program specific stuff you need a sixth
1:49:47 column that is a thing that it says I do
1:49:50 not utilize correct or service because I
1:49:54 was taking this and I was like if I put
1:49:56 neutral am I taking away from as you
1:50:00 look at the results when I see the
1:50:01 results but as as I was putting neutral
1:50:03 on things I have no clue about Senior
1:50:05 Center I've never really excited I'm
1:50:07 like if is my survey result going to
1:50:09 impact how the senior center may get
1:50:11 resources in the future
1:50:13 that feedback that's great feedback
1:50:17 because yeah we want to be more get more
1:50:19 clear on that you're going to allocate
1:50:21 resources based on
1:50:24 very high yeah yeah no it won't be that
1:50:27 nuanced right but you know
1:50:31 um really good feedback really really
1:50:34 good feedback Andre yeah both of you
1:50:36 spot on examples
1:50:39 that we also do surveys for people that
1:50:42 have signed up for programs and actually
1:50:43 been through the programs okay so that's
1:50:47 yeah we need feedback from the program
1:50:48 participants yeah those are ongoing and
1:50:51 we can really dive into some of that
1:50:52 dire hey how was your experience you
1:50:54 know as Brian highlighted we really as
1:50:56 we look at enhancing Rec programs
1:50:58 there's these two big buckets that
1:51:00 really Define that the experience of a
1:51:02 Rec program it's the processes of
1:51:05 signing up registering are you getting
1:51:07 the information you need and want and
1:51:09 know where to show up and then the the
1:51:11 program itself right and I think as the
1:51:14 team is really diving into this is how
1:51:17 do we look at both of those really
1:51:18 important factors of any and all program
1:51:23 experience whether it's a concert in the
1:51:25 green or whether it's a a swim lesson so
1:51:29 hard too because with surveys the things
1:51:30 you find out the most are the negative
1:51:33 like people that are fired up will do
1:51:34 the surve before the person super
1:51:38 happy it is well it's funny I even
1:51:40 reading through it sometimes you you
1:51:42 talk to staff and they'll see they'll p
1:51:43 a one NE com like 300 com did you see
1:51:47 somebody said like that
1:51:50 was and we're all we're all a little bit
1:51:53 that way you something I think hits me
1:51:54 I'm like what a second there might be
1:51:56 1,200 good ones but that one's sort of
1:51:59 stung and that hurt a little bit but it
1:52:01 is by it's good information sometimes
1:52:03 sometimes in all some things to sting or
1:52:06 they have some truth res Yeah Tim also
1:52:11 has a comment
1:52:12 Tim yeah thank you uh so this is not the
1:52:16 first time that we've had uh
1:52:18 conversations around the way surveys are
1:52:21 worded
1:52:23 uh and as someone that did this uh work
1:52:27 as part of my professional life I leaned
1:52:29 into people that had expertise and
1:52:32 training on how to word questions in a
1:52:36 neutral fashion uh and to get the
1:52:39 information that you want and I'm just
1:52:42 wondering do we have that kind of
1:52:44 expertise that can be leveraged uh in
1:52:47 the department or in the city because
1:52:50 there's a real art to be being able to
1:52:53 ask the question in a neutral way to get
1:52:57 the kind of feedback and information
1:52:59 that you're really looking for it's very
1:53:02 easy to word questions in such a way
1:53:07 that you'll get bias or you'll be
1:53:10 suggesting what it is you want to hear
1:53:12 and people will try to give you the
1:53:14 answer you want to hear so having had
1:53:17 experience in the art form that is
1:53:19 asking a question correctly I'm Wonder
1:53:22 what kind of resources a city uses when
1:53:24 putting together these kinds of surveys
1:53:27 questions oh great question Tim um you
1:53:31 know in this case and I probably may
1:53:32 could have clarified a little bit
1:53:33 earlier this wasn't a statistically
1:53:35 valid survey this was more of a
1:53:37 communication piece with our community
1:53:39 so we have a lot of us that have worked
1:53:41 with Community surveys we worked with
1:53:43 our Communications team and fortunately
1:53:45 recently just I worked with a consultant
1:53:47 that was on our um uh po Fe ability
1:53:50 study uh Ballard King and Associates
1:53:53 that also provided some uh you know some
1:53:56 some examples from some Recreation
1:53:57 service they had done so yes you're
1:54:00 exactly right Tim um it is an art form
1:54:03 it is and like said in a statistically
1:54:05 valid survey I know that there's a lot
1:54:07 of time spent on exactly balancing all
1:54:09 of those factors um in this case we did
1:54:13 the best we could with the resources
1:54:14 that we had we had a lot of experience
1:54:16 at the table to develop in those
1:54:17 questions but we were not a it wasn't
1:54:21 balanced in such a way to be to disp out
1:54:24 and Tim if I could if I could add to
1:54:26 because you you're you're absolutely
1:54:27 right I I think there are professionals
1:54:30 much like yourself that did that um that
1:54:34 um we do not have that we do not have
1:54:37 that level of skill internally and so um
1:54:41 something we've talked about as a
1:54:43 department as we do surveys are do we
1:54:46 need to look at again sort of that cost
1:54:49 benefit of spending some money um having
1:54:53 um some external survey writers in in
1:54:56 some of the key surveys that we've been
1:54:57 doing where we've really relied on very
1:55:01 well-meaning well-intentioned
1:55:03 um you know internal uh capacity but we
1:55:07 um you know only have so much sort of
1:55:09 level of expertise and so um that
1:55:13 becomes that budget balance that we'll
1:55:15 be we'll be looking at whether it's a
1:55:17 you know surveys related to some of our
1:55:19 Park projects as we you know will
1:55:21 continue endeavoring and that really
1:55:22 important Community engagement um or or
1:55:25 Recreation surveys uh the same thing
1:55:28 applies right if if we want that kind of
1:55:31 skill we're we're GNA need to pay for it
1:55:34 well Jeff I've recently heard we have
1:55:36 that skill level and expertise on our
1:55:41 hard so the key is you know be careful
1:55:44 how you answer how you ask the question
1:55:46 then be careful how you interpret the
1:55:48 results
1:55:50 because yeah if you ask question and
1:55:53 it's got a little bias built into it and
1:55:55 then you over interpret the results you
1:55:57 can really skew what the TR what the
1:56:00 truth is on a particular issue uh and
1:56:03 you know you most of you I think
1:56:05 probably understand this uh it's more
1:56:08 challenging than you would think and I
1:56:09 understand that things were done with
1:56:11 the best of intention
1:56:13 um but the data is out there you know
1:56:16 it's very clear that you have to be very
1:56:18 careful how you ask questions and then
1:56:20 how you interpret results um so just
1:56:23 wanted to put that on the table oh thank
1:56:26 you Tim
1:56:34 absolutely is that it I don't know is
1:56:37 that it other comment feedback thank you
1:56:40 thank you appreciate you guys having
1:56:42 here thank you all right Jeff you got
1:56:45 one one and a half minutes and a half
1:56:47 minutes awesome uh director's report
1:56:50 just highlighting what something Brian
1:56:52 touched on uh we're in the midst of our
1:56:54 education Outreach for the uh that
1:56:57 potential of expanding the the um jul SP
1:57:00 pool we're actually going to be a group
1:57:03 of uh residents and some pool staff are
1:57:06 going to be at the concert tomorrow
1:57:07 night uh with a a table and a booth uh
1:57:10 just again getting feedback uh we've got
1:57:13 an information page on the website um
1:57:16 and a couple of um questions that we're
1:57:19 we're posing um please push that out uh
1:57:22 we'll be running that through the end of
1:57:23 the month we're already up
1:57:25 to well over a thousand already uh
1:57:28 responses to that so that'll be very
1:57:31 very helpful in US gauging um how we
1:57:34 might want to consider moving forward
1:57:38 that that it that's
1:57:41 it he hit it oh there's a lot lot going
1:57:44 on but we're gonna keep it at
1:57:46 that uh then I guess it's time for my
1:57:48 report which will be very abbreviated uh
1:57:52 one of my favorite moments of the month
1:57:54 is the youth Advisory board report so
1:57:57 Mary when you do get to see that it's
1:57:59 really cool um since they're on summer
1:58:03 vacation uh one of my other favorite
1:58:05 events of the week is seeing things out
1:58:07 in the wild I've seen two black bears
1:58:10 bald eagles and dozen or so deer so if
1:58:14 you can get out there um this is both at
1:58:16 trails and you know more accessible
1:58:19 areas that we have to so that's my
1:58:21 report
1:58:25 and uh let's see any other
1:58:27 business just a plug to everyone to
1:58:30 check your calendars for next month um
1:58:33 if you haven't already let me know if
1:58:35 August 19th Monday or August 26 works
1:58:39 for your schedule um I think great
1:58:41 discussion tonight I feel like we are
1:58:44 going to be in a good place to bring the
1:58:46 park system plan to you all for an
1:58:49 advisory vote so uh for our nine regular
1:58:52 members and our alternates um as many of
1:58:55 you that can be there as possible would
1:58:57 be the best case scenario so check your
1:59:00 calendar send me a little note um we're
1:59:03 just trying to pick whether the 19th or
1:59:05 26th works better for majority of you
1:59:09 again big thank you for all your work
1:59:10 these months on the pl system Plan
1:59:12 update we typically take an August
1:59:14 recess be great it might be an
1:59:16 abbreviated meeting but would be great
1:59:18 to bring that final draft to you um get
1:59:22 your voice on that before we go back to
1:59:24 city council Committee in
1:59:27 September I will be gone for either of
1:59:29 those dat both of those dates okay so
1:59:32 we'll just not that it's that hard of a
1:59:34 job but somebody will need to share
1:59:37 the awesome apparently we have an A over
1:59:43 here yeah
1:59:45 reports
1:59:46 report all the survey
1:59:49 data you ask if it was neutral
1:59:53 okay so with that the meeting is
1:59:55 adjourned thank
1:59:57 you great night

Attendance

Council / Members (14)
Chris Kovac, Chair Development Manager
Marlene Waxse, Vice Chair Brian Berntsen, Recreation Manager
Andrew Eliquen Hasanthi Hoglund, Department Operations Specialist
Julie Cassata, Senior Parks Planner
David Liu
(Virtual)
Tim Motley (Virtual)
Ryan Olson
Brenda Spears
Luyu Zeng, Design Workshop Consultant
(Virtual)
Mari Stevens, Alternate (Arrived 7:21pm) Anna Laybourn, Design Workshop
Paul Adair, Alternate Consultant (Virtual)
Martha Ginthner
Excused
Katie Bell Jeff Watling, Director
Nicholas Lee

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