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Thursday, November 13, 2014

6:30 PM · 1h 2m · Council Chambers, 135 East Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update AB 8796 7/19
Section
Topic
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
Planning Policy Commission About Contacts Created in 1983, this commission serves as a policy advisory body to the Mayor and provides guidance and direction for Issaquah’s Staff Liaison future growth through continued review and improvement to the Trish Heinonen, Planning City’s Comprehensive Land Use Plan and related land use Manager documents. Email
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Meeting Minutes from October 23, 2014
packet pp.4–11
3. AGENDA ITEMS
3a
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update Information Sheet
Trish Heinonen, Planning Manager · packet pp.12
Topics: Land Use
Staff report:
Issaquah’s Comprehensive Plan has not undergone a Periodic Update since 2006, however individual pieces of the Plan are updated each year. The Planning Policy Commission (PPC) is charged with the public process for review and
3b
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update: Parks, Recreation, Trails, and Open Space Element
Jennifer Fink, Park Planner · packet pp.13–75
Topics: Land UseParks
Staff report:
Issaquah is nestled in the heart of a beautiful and natural environment. Built on the valley floor, the City of Issaquah and its downtown core straddle several creeks (Issaquah Creek, the East Fork of Issaquah Creek, and Tibbetts Creek) which are critical waterways for salmon reproduction. The City has slowly migrated into the wooded hillsides of the Valley only to be bound from further expansion due to Native Growth Protection Areas.
3c
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update: Human Services Element
Trish Heinonen, Planning Manager · packet pp.76–92
Topics: Land UseEquity
Staff report:
HUMAN SERVICES ELEMENT INTRODUCTION Our community includes a growing population of people with disabilities, senior citizens, and those that are culturally, ethinically and racially diverse.Affordable housing, food, child care, and support for teens, older adults, and people with disabilities are among the services the community identified as being important. The Human Services Element establishes policies that enable and support the creation and maintenance of needed services, programs and facilities in Issaquah. The provision of human services is a joint effort between the public and private sector that requires a coordinated approach to meet the community’s needs.
0:22 oh good evening and welcome to the
0:26 November 13th meeting of the planning
0:28 policy Commission the first thing on our
0:31 agenda is approval of the
0:34 minutes do I have a motion to
0:37 approve I have a
0:40 second any discussion
0:43 changes with that I will call for the
0:46 question all those in favor of approval
0:49 of the minutes say I I
0:52 opposed the motion car great um tonight
0:57 we're going to continue our comp plan
1:00 discussion and we're going to talk about
1:03 parks and we're g to talk about human
1:05 services so first of all Trisha is going
1:07 to give us an update on you're on the
1:10 agenda right the first um piece you're
1:12 going to see is the updated Parks
1:14 element and Jen fin from the parks
1:17 department is here to present it to you
1:19 you might recall that in the summer I
1:22 presented the existing plan which is um
1:25 several years old and um had not had any
1:29 amendments or any changes done to it I
1:31 it was just more of an education on
1:32 where we're starting because I knew that
1:34 soon we would have a new and improved
1:37 element to share with you and that's
1:39 what we get to see tonight um you have
1:41 it in your packet um it's so complete
1:43 with inventory and uh all sorts of good
1:46 stuff in there and Jen's here to present
1:48 it and to also answer your question and
1:50 also the director an Migel and the
1:54 deputy director uh Brian bernston is
1:57 here also in the audience to help us if
1:58 we have um sorts of questions which I
2:01 don't think we're going to have a lot of
2:02 questions but just in case they are a
2:04 super resource for us as we move forward
2:07 through the parks element the other
2:08 piece that Jen may go into but I
2:11 remember was a little confusing this
2:13 summer when we presented is there's the
2:15 parks element that is our purview the
2:19 planning policy commission and um the
2:21 planning piece of of development
2:23 services and that's the policies and
2:25 goals for the parks system but the parks
2:28 department has a bigger Parks plan that
2:32 they have to um update every five years
2:35 is it six years and that's in order to
2:38 get State monies and other funding to
2:40 help us with our Park system so they're
2:43 two different documents the similarities
2:46 are the um inventory and the policy
2:49 pieces but um their plan the big plan
2:53 which I call it doesn't have to be done
2:55 until next year so there's a lot of of
2:57 good work that's going to be done on
2:58 that with Outreach and
3:00 um public involvement and all sorts of
3:02 other pieces to that that aren't
3:04 included in our little element part and
3:07 so um sometimes it's hard to keep those
3:09 two um separate in our mind so I just
3:13 wanted to say that as an introduction
3:15 that sometimes I even get confused on
3:17 are we talking about the element or the
3:18 plan um because ours ppc's purview is
3:22 the element piece the policies and goals
3:25 so with that I come on and step up to
3:29 the podium and welcome Jen be relaxed
3:32 and thank you do you want the long
3:34 version or the short
3:37 version um thank you for having
3:41 me the Trish is right on as far as the
3:45 planning policies I've only been here
3:47 three months and so getting involved in
3:50 tackling this policy update for the park
3:52 element took a little bit of time as she
3:55 stated the big plan as she called it I'm
3:58 G to say that for
4:00 simplify the title of it um is due to
4:04 the recreation conservation office in
4:06 March of 2016 so this element that's
4:09 presented tonight while some of the
4:12 policies have changed relative to what
4:14 you were previously presented um some of
4:17 the other documents that it references
4:20 are from the past I had to jump ahead a
4:23 little bit and kind of start in on the
4:25 big plan in order to create this
4:28 document um for the update so when we
4:32 come up with a new plan for the 2016 big
4:36 plan we will have a little bit more uh
4:39 detail and information and touch on some
4:42 subjects that were not mentioned in this
4:43 element like Recreation and um
4:47 programming and other items that that
4:50 really are part of the park
4:52 system um so to start I think I just
4:57 wanted to Quick mention what the mission
4:59 of the Parks and Recreation Department
5:01 is I think sometimes we get so drilled
5:03 down into the details that we forget
5:05 what our basic mission is so the mission
5:08 of the Parks and Recreation Department
5:09 is to strengthen the community image and
5:12 sense of place support Economic
5:14 Development strengthen Safety and
5:16 Security promote health and wellness
5:19 Foster human development increase
5:21 cultural Unity protect environmental
5:24 resources provide recreational
5:26 experiences and facilitate Community
5:28 problem solving
5:31 so when I took a look at the park
5:33 element I wanted to take a little more
5:34 holistic approach than some of the
5:35 policies that were previously mentioned
5:39 to again address Recreation to address
5:42 new plans that have come into action
5:44 since 2009 when these policies were PRI
5:47 written like the central isqua plan um
5:50 some um management plans we have for
5:53 open space and other things so some of
5:56 the inventory was categorized to
5:58 represent other management documents
6:01 that we
6:02 have uh the larger Park plan the big
6:06 plan due in March will go out for we're
6:08 going to do a survey of community to get
6:11 input on the Park and Recreation system
6:13 to help identify some of our strengths
6:16 and our weaknesses to be able to plan
6:19 ahead on we'll also be putting it out
6:22 for public comment and review as well as
6:27 um I think that's it
6:30 so um let's
6:33 see let me quick pull this
6:41 see I thought I would just kind of quick
6:44 walk through the um Park
6:49 policies for you assuming you've all
6:52 read the document um like we said the
6:55 reason what we're doing this is because
6:57 of the growth management act and it's
7:01 requirements and what our purposes
7:05 um bear with me a
7:08 moment rather than really Drilling in on
7:12 why each individual policy was changed
7:14 I'm going to approach it by addressing
7:16 each group of policies what the thoughts
7:18 were behind it and then if at the end of
7:20 each section there's any questions you
7:22 know please feel free to ask and let me
7:26 know um the first one the objective
7:30 to plan for our parks for today and the
7:34 future um a lot of times we get so busy
7:37 looking down the road we forget to look
7:38 at where we are right now and what our
7:41 policies and our Park systems need and
7:44 to include um multi-
7:46 recreational
7:48 opportunities um proportional to our
7:51 current needs but also it with the
7:54 foresight of what our future goals will
7:56 be future growth patterns and things
7:58 like that so while we're operating today
8:00 we always have to keep tomorrow in
8:03 mind and we need to plan our Park system
8:07 using you know planned growth patterns
8:09 and ideas as to where development's
8:11 going to occur like the central isqua
8:13 plan really has represented um
8:16 programming where the new Open Spaces
8:18 are going to be Trail connections things
8:20 like that and then also seek pretal
8:23 opportunities what are we going to do as
8:26 far as our programming and our other
8:28 recreational facilities to always keep
8:32 ourselves new to always seize an
8:33 opportunity when exposed to the
8:35 recreation um system and anticipate that
8:39 within our our
8:42 needs the next one is the acquisition
8:44 and development
8:46 policies you know it's our job to
8:49 acquire lands both for recreational uses
8:51 but also for conservation
8:53 purposes um we can
8:56 also you know
8:59 lost my train of thought
9:01 sorry um you know as far as even the
9:05 areas for an
9:07 annexation but as far as development
9:09 policies as well you know there's
9:11 already in the CIP uh Central isqua plan
9:15 you know development for a quarter acre
9:18 half acre
9:20 um parks within a radius of a
9:23 neighborhood development that's a goal
9:25 for design to be able to afford some
9:27 type of Park system within that and when
9:29 I get into the new the big plan I'll be
9:33 addressing how the different parks and
9:36 try and come up with a map so we can
9:38 look at it a little more graphically how
9:40 we're doing as far as the shortfalls or
9:43 if we are providing to our goal of a
9:45 quarter and a half mile radius so I'll
9:47 be striving towards that um we also want
9:50 to support the green necklace isqua's
9:53 wonderful in that we have so much
9:56 diverse um population and demographics
10:00 um as well as native environment that
10:03 we're able to um fulfill and connect and
10:08 meet the urban interface with the
10:10 natural interface we have you know 51%
10:13 tree cover right now and a built
10:15 environment in within the city limits
10:18 that's just an amazing opportunity but
10:20 with all of our natural resources and
10:22 future plans you know we are forced with
10:25 how we're going to have to deal with
10:28 that interface and it becomes a little
10:30 more Technical and a little more
10:32 difficult um but is very
10:35 achievable um we also need to you know
10:40 look at developing our Parklands to
10:42 maximize the opportunities you know a
10:45 lot of
10:46 times piece of land is purchased with
10:48 Grant monies and there's restrictions as
10:49 far as development but if we can afford
10:52 a pathway through that land let's try
10:55 and develop it let's make our system the
10:57 best it potentially can be within the
11:00 parameters set forth on any given piece
11:03 property we also want to identify um
11:06 neighborhood needs and
11:13 um make sure that everything's connected
11:15 within riparian corridors and tree line
11:19 streets and all of those things and make
11:21 sure we're connecting to um connecting
11:25 our comprehensive Trail all of our Open
11:27 Spaces green necklace linkages so on and
11:31 forth um let's see
11:36 here are there any questions so far as
11:39 far as the first section of
11:42 policies
11:44 okay sorry I've been a little wound up
11:47 today
11:50 um our second goal is to Foster and
11:53 support
11:55 uh stewardship provide balanced needs
11:59 within our Park system you know often
12:01 times we think parks are just Parks but
12:03 we also have facilities Recreation
12:07 programming we have users we interface
12:09 with special interest groups we have
12:13 um you know natural growth protected
12:16 areas we have Trails we have um all
12:20 sorts of different varieties and a lot
12:22 of times we think it's just Parks but
12:23 there's also a lot of facilities within
12:25 that and programming that goes along um
12:28 so we really need to think broadly take
12:31 a little more holistic approach to the
12:33 park system and how we're going to be
12:35 addressing it and the
12:38 changes
12:42 um like I said the you know we have the
12:45 interface between the natural resources
12:47 the built environment and really the
12:49 city
12:51 is to serve as the stewards of all of
12:54 these different properties and the
12:56 interface between them
13:03 so we get into our balance needs
13:10 policies which is access and education
13:14 everyone should have access
13:17 to the park system not only just through
13:21 a trail but to be able to go work out at
13:25 the community center to be able
13:27 to go use the Trails house if a special
13:30 group wanted to be able to do it um
13:33 there's a lot of different options out
13:35 there for people and we need to be able
13:38 to um address that as well as the
13:42 diverse Heritage that the city
13:49 represents I've mentioned connectivity
13:52 many times but as we continue to grow we
13:54 really do need to
13:56 um connect everything to promote health
14:00 and sustainability especially as the
14:03 city begins to grow there will be a lot
14:05 more
14:07 um need as a population increases for a
14:11 healthy Park system to be able
14:13 to um offset the density of living with
14:18 open space and recreational
14:21 opportunities we also want to be sure to
14:24 um promote and protect Environmental
14:27 Quality our open
14:30 spaces um and cultural
14:39 experiences you know strive to provide
14:42 universal
14:43 access at each facility where feasible
14:47 we understand that you know Ada is a
14:51 challenge um to make every ounce of
14:55 everything accessible and I know a study
14:58 has been done recently
14:59 I haven't seen the details of that but
15:01 it is something that as we move forward
15:03 with the park system we're feasible to
15:06 strive and provide that to our
15:11 users especially as populations change
15:14 um demographics change and recreational
15:18 needs also
15:21 change different Park element
15:24 policies um planning it's a goal to
15:27 create a very vibrant um um active
15:33 recreational park
15:35 system um we want to embrace different
15:38 types of plans that have been set forth
15:41 and incorporate them and make sure that
15:43 everybody's all the different plans are
15:44 talking to each other and striving to
15:46 work towards the same Mission as far as
15:50 um making issaqua one of the best places
15:55 live we also want to create a sense of
15:57 place you know you should know when
16:00 you're at a certain Park that it's a
16:01 city park when you're on a trail you
16:03 should know that you're on the Rainer
16:05 Trail especially as new trails are come
16:09 into the system you want to know where
16:12 that trail is going to be able to take
16:13 you or that you know you'll be able to
16:15 get to a safe Street along the way um
16:18 that's even true up in when you're up in
16:19 Tradition Plateau you want to know that
16:22 okay I know these Trails will connect me
16:24 somewhere that I can get myself back to
16:26 and gives some cute to
16:31 people we also want to utilize our
16:33 vegetation um wisely and that includes
16:37 you know using D drought tolerant plants
16:39 and being wise of our
16:43 resources we also want to encourage play
16:45 areas I have a question yes you're
16:48 talking about uh Native intolerant uh
16:51 vegetation water to M I don't see
16:53 anything here about noxious weeds so any
16:56 comments about you know attempt to
16:59 eradicate no your squeeze wherever they
17:00 are I just never found anything in there
17:03 I think that should be that is not in
17:06 here was certainly something policy or
17:08 something you would follow if you had
17:10 that's usually in our integrated Pest
17:12 Management is a lot of the what is one
17:15 of the plans and noxious weeds is in
17:17 that as far as a management practice
17:20 pest dealing yeah usually pest is
17:22 dealing with other live Critters not
17:24 plan right and further on in the
17:26 management sections we do reference the
17:28 integrated Pest Management and other
17:30 various management um documents that we
17:33 would reference in the policies okay but
17:37 not specifically noxious weeds yeah so I
17:41 I just think here we talking about
17:42 native plants and so forth it would be
17:44 worth having something dealing with
17:45 noxious weeds here because I I didn't
17:47 get that into integrated Pest Management
17:49 and Pest Management to me goes to the
17:52 you know live uh you know insects and
17:54 that type of nature versus right right
17:56 that's a wonderful idea certainly make
17:59 that
18:08 addition anything
18:11 else move
18:13 on um
18:17 signage signage is one of those
18:20 strategic
18:21 items you need it some people want more
18:26 sometimes it can be overused and create
18:28 CL and visual Hazard um within the park
18:32 system it's our goal to use it wisely
18:34 and minimally uh as to not deter but
18:38 also
18:39 to use it when needed to provide
18:42 direction or education or information uh
18:45 for
18:46 people for Park
18:51 users visual policies you know we're
18:54 blessed living in the isqua Alps with
18:56 beautiful Vistas native environments
19:00 and we really as part of our stewardship
19:03 and part of the beauty of isqua need to
19:06 embrace that um So within the park
19:09 system try and provide both relief from
19:12 the urban built Urban environment as
19:15 well as um protect our Vistas in our
19:19 native Scapes like the CIP has done with
19:24 um in its
19:26 development again creating
19:29 um a sense of place within our
19:32 boulevards um just going back to P51 I I
19:36 think we want to emphasize that we don't
19:38 want to mitigate necessarily all impacts
19:40 of the urban environment just the
19:41 negative impacts and so just to make
19:44 sure that list is and talking about the
19:47 the negative impacts that we have as a
19:49 result of being a dense City great
19:51 suggestion
20:09 anything
20:11 else
20:16 um access
20:20 policies again it's our goal to create a
20:22 vibrant Park system and provide active
20:26 and recreational facilities to as many
20:28 people as possible and that also
20:30 includes
20:31 programming
20:33 um but we want the opportunities to be
20:36 consistent with what the intended use
20:38 was you know we don't want
20:41 to contradict that and I forgot what I
20:45 was going to say scratch
20:47 that
20:49 um but Healthy Living I think this is
20:52 one of the best policies that we've
20:55 added is the Parks and Recreation
20:57 Department is all about being active
20:59 getting out there enjoying your Outdoors
21:01 being moving around and this
21:05 policy is encouraging people to do that
21:08 we want people to be outside we want
21:10 them to
21:12 um have opportunities to walk or to ride
21:15 their bike or to push a stroller or to
21:17 go trail running if they would want to
21:20 but we also want to be able to provide
21:23 those opportunities for those who may be
21:25 underprivileged um and be able to make
21:28 those those opportunities affordable
21:29 through scholarship programs or whatever
21:31 we need
21:32 to so nobody is left out and all can
21:36 afford a healthy
21:37 lifestyle I I guess I'm confused what
21:41 does that mean your scholarship program
21:45 what is that going to specifically
21:49 address some of the underprivileged are
21:52 no I understand who the people would be
21:55 but what is it they're going to be um it
21:58 says encourage Healthy Living what does
22:00 that mean or active Recreation is it
22:03 scholarships to the community center
22:06 what what does it mean that is
22:09 specifically for the community center
22:20 bot you can't you can't you have to be
22:23 you have to go to the mic sorry sorry
22:26 for our big television viewing audience
22:28 so they can hear if I hop in sorry about
22:32 that usually I'm told to be quieter so
22:34 um with the scholarships basically that
22:36 money would not be an issue for kids to
22:38 participate in programs and you're
22:39 exactly correct that most of the times
22:41 that would be at our community center
22:42 aquatics facility we also run programs
22:44 throughout this squas school district so
22:46 that would be the primary use for that
22:53 okay thank you
22:55 Brian and so um going on that we may
22:59 want to alter that a little bit to
23:01 Foster the development of
23:04 um scholarships for recreational
23:07 programs and
23:09 Facilities um so that we're not unduly
23:11 limiting the council in
23:17 that very
23:22 good thank
23:24 you and I guess how would you in I mean
23:27 this is how would you encourage Healthy
23:31 Living are you going to how would are
23:34 you going to advertise are you going to
23:36 um what are you going to do to encourage
23:38 healthy living or is this just a an OD
23:42 add-on from the other first part of that
23:45 sentence I think Healthy Living comes
23:48 with having those items available to you
23:51 and making it an integral part of the
23:53 community um as far as healthy living if
23:58 you know there's a trail there and you
24:00 can walk from your home to somewhere or
24:05 you can easily access a trail or another
24:08 Park along the way
24:11 um you know a lot of times people are
24:15 afraid to get out and I think
24:19 encouraging Healthy Living is now how
24:21 would you encourage how would you put
24:23 brochures together to explain that this
24:25 is good for you what would you do to
24:29 encourage I'll grab that one too if I
24:31 can real fast uh yeah exactly with the
24:34 brochures you know we do a brochure
24:35 that's out to the public online we also
24:37 reach out to the schools and work with
24:38 them and and it's the opportunity like
24:41 the Healthy Living components just it
24:42 sort of is and it's what we do as Parks
24:44 and Recreation right getting kids
24:46 exposed to Nature and the outdoor
24:48 environment as well as getting them
24:49 exposed to youth Athletics a young age
24:51 and a friendly environment where they
24:52 all get to play and participate so we do
24:55 reach out through the community but
24:57 everything has a healthy living
25:00 component to it to expose people to
25:02 physical activity in the outdoors to get
25:04 out and get moving type of philosophy is
25:06 what we sort of guide ourselves
25:09 by understand that what I was
25:11 questioning do you need to add anything
25:13 on there or is everybody content with
25:16 just encourage healthy
25:18 living fine
25:24 okay anything else on that one goe okay
25:32 local Partnerships and Regional
25:35 coordination we are so very fortunate to
25:39 have in our local agreements with the
25:41 isqua school district the park system
25:44 relies heavily upon the facilities to
25:46 help with some of our programming as
25:48 well as
25:50 um all those students then in turn use
25:53 our system as well so it's a real
25:56 win-win situation
25:58 for all users that
26:01 benefit we also have um
26:05 wonderful programs with King County um
26:10 and Department of Natural
26:15 Resources but overall we first our
26:19 management policies
26:21 um we talk about in
26:25 this the topic was Regional and local
26:29 but we talk about ours as our local as
26:32 first in our service and management
26:34 policies we address you know our
26:37 stewardship offering diverse Park
26:41 programming for all different
26:45 needs we also address safety that comes
26:48 in many various
26:50 forms from vegetation to uh facilities
26:56 inspections to uh
26:58 pruning
27:04 vegetation we also Embrace citizen
27:06 involvement special interest groups a
27:09 lot of volunteers help make things in
27:11 our Park system
27:19 happen and Resource
27:24 Management we could not manage
27:27 everything that we man manage in the
27:28 diverse manner if we didn't have the
27:31 integrated Pest Management our Open
27:33 Space Management plans um stewardship
27:37 plans as well we rely heavily upon those
27:41 and to help protect our
27:47 resources facility management we
27:52 also um perform routine inspections we
27:57 help
27:58 um minimize the
28:03 impacts and we utilize maintenance
28:05 operations manuals and other operating
28:08 procedures to help ensure Public Safety
28:10 when our facilities are being
28:16 used we try and embrace best management
28:20 practices and all that we do
28:30 and back into the partnership policies
28:33 again the interlocal agreement with the
28:34 esqua school
28:36 district in the design and development
28:39 processes we partner with developers to
28:43 help
28:44 encourage active recreational play
28:47 spaces and park development or
28:52 Trails so one thing I'm not seeing under
28:55 the partnership policies is uh um kind
28:59 of keeping an open eye towards potential
29:02 um County state or federal funds for
29:04 parks that may become available as big
29:06 policy that's the next section down
29:09 that's a nine the
29:11 regional Regional courin
29:18 yeah and then teamwork I think it should
29:21 be a goal of the parks department to
29:23 also Park and Recreation Department to
29:24 also work with
29:26 other inner agency
29:28 teams and divisions to make sure our
29:32 Park system
29:38 wonderful
29:39 and coordination occurs during the
29:42 planning process and communication and
29:49 development Regional coordination is
29:52 also one of
29:54 our favorite uh opportunities we Depend
29:59 and work a lot with the Department of
30:01 Natural
30:02 Resources King
30:04 County fish and
30:07 wildlife
30:09 um in not only achieving grants but in
30:14 the management of our natural resources
30:17 we seek
30:18 um a lot of
30:23 uh because we interface with so many
30:25 public lands it also provides a unique
30:28 opportunity there for us to connect our
30:31 Trails or to
30:33 um provide and protect our waterways you
30:37 know like in the waterways program along
30:40 isqua Creek obtain land to help preserve
30:42 habitat and Native vegetation so our um
30:47 re working relationships with them
30:49 sometimes don't always aren't always
30:51 right at the boundaries where we
30:53 interface but also on our waterways and
30:55 our other natural resources within the
30:57 city limits yeah and I'm still not
31:00 within this objective seeing kind of
31:02 that that um just um keeping an eye out
31:06 for monies that aren't necessarily tied
31:09 to any Cooperative agreement where we're
31:11 not necessarily working with another
31:14 agency in a partnership but things like
31:16 you know federal grants that may become
31:18 available um so what i' I'd like to see
31:21 is is a specific policy um maybe
31:25 9.3 or maybe a policy um within eight um
31:30 that we will um seek external sources of
31:35 funding
31:37 um through grants uh I think I think
31:42 this Cooperative planning addresses
31:43 partnership efforts I don't think it
31:45 need to be anything other than looking
31:47 for funding elsewhere
31:51 okay thank you
31:59 any further questions on some of the
32:01 policies that kind of
32:06 yes I don't know if I'm on or not maybe
32:09 I'm not I can hear
32:15 you there is a constituency that's
32:18 underserved and I think underserved and
32:21 that's my constituency
32:23 seniors and uh at the community center I
32:26 had suggested several times that they
32:28 look into uh uh senior sneakers which is
32:32 a program uh that is subsidized
32:35 basically by most of the hmos and I've
32:38 never gotten a good reason why uh this
32:41 is not part of the program so I thought
32:44 I'd make a pitch for it while you're
32:45 here well I'm glad you did and being new
32:50 I have
32:51 not this is the first I've heard of that
32:54 so I'll have to go back and reference
32:56 but I will be sure as we go addressing
32:58 in the big plan um the recreational
33:01 opportunities to make sure we look into
33:03 making sure it's balanced for all users
33:05 including the seniors
33:12 yes any further questions on policies I
33:15 I just need a
33:17 clarification um with the Arts
33:19 commission we're putting together uh
33:22 brochure that encompasses every art
33:26 facet in the city and I know you
33:28 referenced a
33:30 brochure uh that the parks department
33:33 puts together do you have a brochure
33:35 that I'm new to the city I can find out
33:38 every just every Park and how it's
33:41 connected with a diagram do you have
33:44 that or is it I know that there's
33:47 there's stuff that talks about what's
33:48 going on in the community center and all
33:50 these other things but just in relation
33:54 Parks um there is in our parks and
33:57 recreation guide there is a quick
33:59 reference Matrix in the very beginning
34:01 so if you are looking for parks with
34:03 picnic tables you can quick reference
34:05 which Parks those are um or with
34:10 restrooms um as far as the parks
34:13 themselves and in this new um updated
34:17 element the park system has been broken
34:20 out into different categories ver from
34:23 what it was priorly referred to and
34:26 within those we have these map maps of
34:28 where those are located in the addresses
34:31 as well and where do you find those well
34:34 these were just developed for this
34:36 policy it will be in the updated plan
34:39 well no it in the future will it be just
34:41 online or will it be a something that I
34:45 can I haven't spoken with staff
34:47 regarding that how we'll get it out
34:50 there I know the um 2016 big plan that
34:54 we'll be working on will be posted
34:56 online
34:58 uh when we're done um and I will be
35:00 incorporating The Matrix and stuff as
35:02 well but I can certainly talk and see if
35:04 we can get to some kind of brochure this
35:07 is a thought you know everybody doesn't
35:09 look online all the time and sometimes
35:13 they just like to have some handout some
35:15 brochure that gives you a a general idea
35:19 of where the parks are and what they are
35:21 MH and that's something we could
35:23 probably work to incorporate even in the
35:26 um Recreation guide to is a quick
35:29 reference
35:31 map any other questions
35:35 updates thank you did a good job thank
35:38 you very
35:39 much and what before you I guess just a
35:43 page back there but when you um page 29
35:46 you got the property acquired since
35:50 2009 it's a chart there yes um the the
35:54 total looks off I'm going to check your
35:57 map on
35:59 I can't get 10 I know but it still
36:02 doesn't have 129 it's like maybe
36:05 119 check your map okay thank you for
36:08 pointing that out I thought Excel had
36:10 done it for
36:16 me I read that and I couldn't couldn't
36:19 understand anyway and then and then I it
36:22 up well and then other point just I
36:24 guess to clarify my other point on on uh
36:27 un noxious weeds I wasn't clear when I
36:29 said I think there should be a policy
36:31 line there CL okay I didn't say yes I
36:34 did catch
36:38 that anything else no all right thank
36:42 you very
36:43 much we all need need and love Park so
36:47 um all of the work is uh worthwhile and
36:50 we're you know hope to have many more if
36:52 we could fit them in the
36:55 city com what want public yeah I'm going
37:00 to um I know that um you all received a
37:05 uh public comment input on Parks I just
37:09 wanted to know if you had any questions
37:10 about that or if the person who
37:13 submitted the
37:15 um uh comments would like
37:18 to say anything
37:22 else I would well now's your chance
37:31 I really think that people who come to
37:34 to meetings are really interested in the
37:37 cities and should have the opportunity
37:39 even though it isn't a public comment
37:41 type uh open Forum here
37:46 welcome hi my name is Connie Marsh and I
37:48 live in town and I have a business in
37:50 town to you 1175 Northwest Gilman
37:54 Boulevard sweet be 11 okay um
38:03 so I I I know some of you and I don't
38:05 know some of you so um I've long worked
38:10 with the isqua environmental Council and
38:12 have done massive quantities of open
38:15 space
38:17 maintenance um on the board of save Lake
38:20 samamish just got off the boards of
38:23 friends of Lake samamish State Park
38:25 because I'm on too many boards I'm on
38:26 the board of uh I guess isqua
38:29 environmental Council and work closely
38:33 with isqua Alps and then I sort of try
38:38 on my topics of interest to follow these
38:41 policies and processes that go through
38:43 city council to try to make an awesome
38:45 City and so it's a little creepy but
38:50 I've been doing it for about 15 years
38:51 now and this will be my third time up to
38:55 speak about the parks uh element in the
38:59 comprehensive plan and uh so far I
39:02 haven't gotten very far on making the
39:04 changes I want and and I'm not sure why
39:07 that is right now the city council is
39:11 going through the level of
39:13 service uh impact fees so they
39:18 are before the element gets done for the
39:21 capital capital facilities part which
39:23 you guys I think took a peek at or this
39:27 they going to decide what the park
39:28 impact fees should be um which made my
39:34 eyes blink because I started reading it
39:36 and went you know those level of
39:39 service standards that we have are
39:42 actually funding a negative balance for
39:46 funding for Parks they accepted at some
39:49 point in time that there was no deficit
39:52 in the park system so it was adequately
39:55 funded and then they put in the impact
39:58 fees but then they also said there was
40:01 another deficit of 44% that the city had
40:04 to pay for and what this basically means
40:07 is Parks hasn't gotten enough money from
40:09 Impact fees for a very long time since
40:13 1999 this is my opinion but you can
40:17 verify it all you want I think I'm right
40:18 on this one and so when we look at how
40:23 Parks should be
40:25 funded um that's what I've been thinking
40:27 about for days and days and days because
40:29 how do we actually get enough money to
40:31 get great parks and I look at the
40:34 element and I look at the impact fees
40:37 and I say you know what is missing here
40:40 is what the deficits are how much those
40:43 are going to cost how much money do we
40:45 need to make a great Park system what
40:48 should each component of our Park system
40:50 look like to make us say you know what
40:52 that's what we want the park to be maybe
40:55 not right now cuz it's not there but
40:56 this is what we envision it to be to be
40:58 the park that we need and we have parts
41:02 of all of those things but I have a hard
41:04 time thinking we're going to get a great
41:06 Park system if we don't identify what
41:09 exactly is a neighborhood park and what
41:11 do we need in it to call it that and
41:13 have everyone who goes in there be
41:15 satisfied with our Parks what's the
41:17 maintenance level Etc and so when I read
41:20 this
41:22 element um it wasn't organized in a way
41:26 that I thought was functional there were
41:28 lots of topics under lots of categories
41:30 that were all crossed and so I couldn't
41:34 understand even how to put in my
41:36 opinions so I gave you
41:38 all what I thought the policy decision
41:41 changes should
41:43 be um and
41:47 what I guess the basis of that is I
41:50 think we should understand in what
41:55 neighborhood each neighborhood I should
41:57 say in the city how well it's being
41:59 served by all the components of our Park
42:02 system and then we can decide from
42:06 there how much money and where we should
42:09 prioritize that money to be spent to
42:11 continue to create the system and that's
42:14 how we can make the developers pay their
42:16 fair share in the neighborhoods that
42:18 they decide to grow and I I looked at
42:21 maybe I don't know 10 or 12 different
42:23 jurisdictions around the country to see
42:25 what they did and and um there's a lot
42:28 of variation but a l much of it was how
42:33 far in each neighborhood are you from
42:36 each Park component so how well served
42:39 is it and um that is how you can see
42:42 what's missing and what is there and so
42:45 I would like to see that sort of a
42:47 standard be put into this comprehensive
42:50 Plan update I don't feel that our
42:52 current method of of uh trying to gain
42:55 Parks is working I work with trying to
42:57 get the developers to do the right thing
43:00 and we don't have any teeth to tell them
43:02 exactly what we need so we have a really
43:04 hard time getting an what I would
43:06 consider to be appropriate amounts of
43:08 money out of them to make a great City
43:10 and a great Park system
43:13 um is this a total redo I don't think
43:17 it's a total redo I think it might be a
43:19 reorganization in an
43:21 emphasis um this element is emphasizing
43:25 Recreation I don't know if that's right
43:27 or wrong uh it certainly got rid of
43:29 wildlife corridors boom they're just
43:31 gone and I disagree with that but is
43:34 that appropriate I don't know how we're
43:36 making those decisions this would create
43:38 a method of making those decisions so
43:41 what do I expect you to do with all of
43:44 this
43:49 information
43:50 well if it were me which it's
43:54 not I would say uh we need to
43:59 rethink how we're analyzing our parks
44:02 and I would like to see this come back
44:05 because there's time the next time it
44:06 comes back this is not a decision night
44:09 with some ideas on how we can without
44:11 spending massive quantities of money
44:13 create a better system for funding and
44:17 maintaining and prioritizing our
44:20 Parks
44:25 um one other little bit would like to
44:28 emphasize is we our comprehensive plan
44:30 says we're supposed to have a 51% tree
44:33 canopy but we don't I think the parks
44:35 department should be responsible for
44:37 getting those tree plant trees planted
44:39 to make sure we have 51% of the tree
44:41 canopy okay and that's just a a little
44:43 aside
44:45 um that was likely hopelessly
44:48 complicated so I I I hope it was
44:52 understandable and if not I apologize
44:56 thanks
44:57 thanks Connie
45:00 um so as a
45:03 followup um to um Connie's
45:08 concerns
45:10 um at what
45:12 point I I know it says it's in here so I
45:15 know you're doing it at one point are
45:17 you going to have a have a comprehensive
45:21 Park plan where you know where the parks
45:24 are going to be what needs to be done on
45:28 each Park um we don't have the preview
45:31 of uh the responsibility of coming up
45:34 with how to pay for it I mean we don't
45:36 the impact fees are basically determined
45:39 by the city and what you guys think you
45:42 need to support the the system is there
45:46 a process underway to um you know I know
45:50 we need all this stuff but
45:53 basically uh a a goal of this is going
45:57 to happen and this is going to happen
45:59 and this we need this to make this
46:00 happen type of a of a scenario does that
46:03 make sense to you are you working to
46:06 that
46:08 point any one of you I think to um just
46:11 part of what um and I'm only speaking
46:14 for the central plan because we've met
46:15 on that before but the central plan
46:18 outlined several places where there
46:20 would be big neighborhood parks because
46:22 there aren't any now um one area is up
46:25 to the west of the city
46:27 um and what we call um the mole property
46:30 um because that it's the owners and um
46:34 so there's a big dat on the central plan
46:36 map that says that someday when this
46:38 property is developed there will be a
46:39 neighborhood park there because it's
46:41 underserved what we weren't able to do
46:43 through the central plan plan process is
46:46 with all those little dots that we knew
46:48 we needed to have with Parks we weren't
46:50 able to say what was going to be there
46:52 in the future um number one CU we don't
46:54 know what age group and type of you know
46:57 is it going to be family singles
46:59 Apartments how you know we don't really
47:00 know what's going in so we can't really
47:03 say this definitely has to be a
47:04 skateboard park because you know what if
47:07 it's non- skateboarding folks that are
47:09 going to live there or near there and so
47:11 part of it we left open because we know
47:13 part of it is going to be determined by
47:15 who's going to be living there but the
47:17 other part is we wanted to be able to
47:19 work with the parks department to find
47:21 out how they figure out needs for those
47:24 areas because we just did it through um
47:26 you know how many quarters of a mile
47:28 would you have to walk to get to a park
47:30 that's one of our criteria as planners
47:32 but we knew that as recreation parks
47:34 folks they have different criteria
47:36 additional criteria than we do so we
47:38 were going to take the next year while
47:39 they're working on the big plan to help
47:41 fill in those pieces of what would those
47:44 parks in the central plan need to have
47:46 to be as Connie says um to be
47:49 satisfactory to those to those areas
47:51 that um that they're going to serve um
47:54 as for the other areas I don't know if
47:55 that's part of the um update as well as
47:58 to try to figure out um more specifics
48:00 on what kinds of facilities or things
48:02 are needed in the big
48:04 plan this type of planning is going to
48:08 happen yes with that's all I I want
48:10 that's the answer I wanted but with the
48:13 um first we'll be doing a survey of the
48:16 public about our current Park system and
48:19 um things that they feel
48:21 maybe our some of our deficits so we'll
48:24 get a gauge on what the current
48:28 um Community feel is about the park
48:30 system and then I hope as we start going
48:33 through the planning process and start
48:36 working more closely with Planning and
48:38 Development too is to acknowledge each
48:41 of our parks are they being used to
48:43 their best and start doing an evaluation
48:46 normally in the um comprehensive plan
48:49 the big plan
48:51 um historically standards for from the
48:56 national
48:58 Recreation um were used you know you
49:00 needed one tennis court per thousand
49:02 people or whatever the standard was
49:05 don't quote me on that one um just threw
49:07 that off my top of my head but there
49:09 were hard standards well those are no
49:11 longer valid um people are doing what is
49:14 good for their community and really
49:16 gauging Community input and user um
49:20 sentiments as far as are they meeting
49:22 the needs of their Community because
49:24 what may work for us as far as needing
49:27 Trails may not work for a neighboring
49:29 community so having a National Standard
49:32 um as communities are growing and
49:35 demographics are changing user needs
49:37 change um so it's really becoming a more
49:40 how are we doing for ourselves what are
49:42 our goals for our community what are
49:44 Community goals are we achieving those
49:46 goals and so I hope as we start going
49:48 through this master planning process to
49:50 really be taking a more critical look um
49:53 and working with Trish and hopefully
49:54 getting some bigger ideas you know that
49:56 whether or not we need a play structure
49:59 here or we need a ball field here or how
50:01 are we going to achieve those items and
50:03 have a much better um view of the Future
50:07 Park system does that answer your
50:10 question a little bit oh yeah I mean I
50:12 knew the answer I just wanted you
50:14 to follow up and and be on record and
50:17 and uh yeah see that there is a plan out
50:21 there that you're planning to do this
50:22 yeah it's work in progress okay yes
50:25 thank you anything
50:29 else I guess just to follow up a little
50:31 bit and going back on and I think what
50:34 she was asking about is the vision and
50:37 and that's what's I think a little light
50:39 on the vision side here I mean actually
50:41 you know statement in discussions is you
50:43 know
50:44 um I forget where it is but but
50:46 basically lands picked up for Parks
50:48 because they become available you know
50:50 it feels like it feels like a a mishmash
50:53 it just well oh there's a place okay
50:54 we'll grab it and so what I mean like
50:57 bluntly I've lived here a lot of years
50:58 I'm just the first time I could see
51:00 where all the parks are listed in this
51:02 thing I've been wanting to that
51:03 information for a long time because I
51:05 hear these names and it says such some
51:07 where the heck is that and it's some
51:08 little island somewhere or something
51:10 that I you know I saw a green space but
51:12 I never KN knew it was a park you know a
51:15 city park right and so that's kind of
51:18 combining a lot of things of of where
51:20 are all these things I don't think the
51:21 public knows cuz I don't know what I've
51:23 been looking for them um and and a
51:25 vision of what you know so we put a
51:27 thing like green
51:28 necklace I don't know what that means
51:30 that means a bunch of little dots
51:31 scattered to the Four Winds I don't know
51:33 what that means either so I guess the
51:35 the point here is is that out giving
51:38 some more concreteness to a vision that
51:40 says we're missing some things and these
51:42 are some things we're trying to get to
51:45 um would would help a lot because I kind
51:46 of see it you know and and and yes some
51:49 things opportunities come sometimes and
51:51 you're not aware of them and you want to
51:52 take advantage of those and you may not
51:53 know sure where they're going to work in
51:54 the future but you grab those
51:56 opportunities because they are hard to
51:57 come by open spaces so it's a
51:59 combination of taking advantage of those
52:01 things but you have to have the vision
52:03 so you do something good in that process
52:05 and not just just because it's
52:08 there that make some
52:13 sense okay me ask one more time are
52:15 there any more
52:19 comments okay so the parks department
52:22 has done a good job and thank you for
52:24 being here and presenting uh right now
52:26 we're going to move on to Trish and
52:28 human Serv Human Services and um the
52:31 only and thank you guys for presenting
52:33 and doing such a job and thanks Connie
52:35 for sharing your comments too with us we
52:38 we'll see how it goes for the next
52:41 time and we can talk offline about the
52:44 deficit piece because I think I can
52:47 help describe
52:49 that oh okay okay
52:54 um silver speakers
53:00 oh you've heard speak of
53:03 it now that was good I haven't heard of
53:05 that either that's a good one um the
53:07 reason that you got the Human Services
53:09 element again I think um you've seen it
53:11 maybe twice before is that in going
53:14 through uh the requirements of the
53:16 growth management act um this last time
53:19 there's food security policies and food
53:23 um what's the other word um the we had
53:27 thought we were going to put in just not
53:29 reading all of the requirements we
53:30 thought we were going to put it in the
53:31 land use element until we read further
53:34 on what was required and we realized it
53:36 really didn't have a lot to do per se
53:38 with the land as much as it did with all
53:41 the Human Services piece that it's
53:43 accessible that it's um available that
53:46 there's a lot of different varieties
53:48 that it's protected and it seemed like a
53:50 better match for the pieces and parts
53:52 that we have in the human services
53:53 element so we drafted
53:57 um some policies and goals in there and
54:00 um sent it through to I'm not sure if
54:02 the Human Service excuse me if the Human
54:05 Services um commission was able to look
54:08 at it oh good um because I know David
54:10 sent the Human Services did look at it
54:12 and we were fine with it oh good because
54:14 I know David sent it back but he didn't
54:17 with some edits and I didn't know if
54:18 they were just his edits or if you had
54:20 had a chance to oh good that makes me
54:22 feel even better and um so those are in
54:25 there and what I also put in there just
54:27 to see if it was helpful is I put a
54:30 matrix of the um existing policies and
54:34 then the new policies or anything
54:36 different next to it in the next column
54:39 and the reason I um I started with this
54:41 one with human services is of all the
54:43 elements so far that we've drafted um
54:46 there's more new proposals in human
54:48 services than in any other element um
54:50 and a lot of that is because of new
54:53 requirements from growth
54:55 management and a lot of it is because
54:58 that this element is was so old for us
55:00 that there were a lot of really great
55:02 ideas that we wanted to add um the
55:04 newest pieces for you tonight um are the
55:07 Ada the Americans with Disabilities Act
55:11 policies which is the um Human Services
55:13 goal D and then as I mentioned the
55:15 healthy and sustainable food access and
55:17 security which um is goal
55:21 B and are there any questions about that
55:25 or is there any confusion with the way
55:26 I've laid out the Matrix on um the red
55:29 is what's
55:30 new uh the um the let's see that would
55:34 be the left side is the existing goals
55:36 and policies and the other side are the
55:38 new ones uh and the new ones are in red
55:41 another one I realized I hadn't put in
55:43 here is there's a whole section on
55:45 Volunteers in the existing document that
55:48 aren't addressed in the new version and
55:52 that's because um the volunteers are
55:54 listed in the indicators that uh David
55:57 and Megan presented is it a month ago
56:00 now that's one of the thing the items
56:02 that they track every year or two on the
56:05 volunteer aspects of isqua how many
56:08 boards and commissions do we have and
56:09 Joan you mentioned the um Kanas do we
56:13 ever track anything that other groups do
56:15 and we don't yet we should but we
56:17 haven't figured out a mechanism but
56:19 that's why the volunteer pieces is not
56:21 in human services anymore and I realized
56:23 as I was going through it tonight that
56:25 that's not listed in the Matrix so I
56:27 need to fix that before before it's
56:30 final are there any questions on the new
56:33 policies and goals or um rewarding or
56:38 have you all read
56:39 it well of course they
56:43 have um under um HS B um on the healthy
56:48 and sustainable food access and security
56:51 uh under food
56:53 security um bullet two I just wanted to
56:56 know not the
56:57 typo there after the first sentence just
56:59 we have a comma and a period just kind
57:01 of hanging
57:03 there um under food access uh under it's
57:08 bullet two under um food
57:12 security improve access to food for the
57:14 community now and in the future period
57:17 comma
57:19 period on page
57:24 78 so is it in the number one or number
57:28 two number two oh I see it's in the
57:30 second one I got it I was going to say I
57:32 don't see any bullets there but now I
57:34 see where you are good
57:37 catch and and then I guess the follow I
57:40 mean I'm not commenting on various
57:43 things of text font things that are just
57:46 I'm assuming those are going to be
57:47 cleaned up and matched up later because
57:49 there's times it it seems to change in
57:51 the middle of ser policy and this was a
57:54 funny one you know just to say some
57:56 times things are demented but no matter
57:58 how I keep changing this as soon as I
58:00 print it out it all goes back wacky so I
58:03 don't know what it is about my machine
58:05 that cannot control my fonts so I fig
58:07 those kinds of things you'll take care
58:08 of yeah I think I'm just going to have
58:10 Kristen printed next time because I saw
58:12 this as soon as it came out and I went
58:15 no but yes sadly more on the policy end
58:19 of this on under policies for b um one
58:23 of the things that I'm not seeing just
58:24 specifically spelled out
58:26 is um and not a huge problem now but as
58:32 Transportation you know goes the way of
58:34 the
58:35 dodo um we're going to need to ensure
58:39 that there are no that we're looking at
58:41 whether there are food deserts and how
58:44 we can mitigate those um meaning that
58:47 not having just a a corner store that
58:49 doesn't have fruits and vegetables but
58:51 making sure that the healthy
58:53 alternatives are available and it's kind
58:55 of addressed within several of the
58:58 policies but the the trend is to address
59:00 those specifically as food deserts and
59:03 and mitigating food deserts right and
59:05 I've I've seen those in other cities
59:07 where they talk about that and I figured
59:09 because we're so small it seemed like
59:11 such a huge term but you're right that's
59:13 the term that they use when there's just
59:14 sort of a a vacancy of nothing going on
59:18 in a certain Geographic so I can add
59:20 that in there as part of it
59:31 other thoughts or questions or
59:34 additions this makes everybody hungry
59:36 reading about reading this
59:40 one none okay anything about the
59:43 Ada
59:45 one okay anything to fix on the
59:49 comparison will that work for you all
59:51 for the to try and do that same format
59:53 for the other elements to kind of help
59:55 you realize what what's there and what's
59:57 new and not included yeah kind of help
59:59 okay because it sure helped me and I do
1:00:01 this all the time so I thought I bet
1:00:03 this might help us get a handle on
1:00:05 what's really
1:00:07 changing well super well with that
1:00:09 that's all I have um as you know there
1:00:12 wasn't a public hearing tonight because
1:00:14 the um the part that we thought we had
1:00:17 to adopt by the end of this year turns
1:00:19 out that we get a little more time on it
1:00:21 so we all get a little more time so uh
1:00:23 we don't think the public hearing uh on
1:00:25 every will be till early next year so we
1:00:28 have a little bit more time so that was
1:00:30 that's good news for all of us I think
1:00:32 and your next meeting is cancelled
1:00:34 because it's Thanksgiving because it's
1:00:37 on the holidaying
1:00:41 yeah yes it would have been so and then
1:00:46 December same thing just the first
1:00:47 meeting and no second meeting because
1:00:49 that would be correct correct so I know
1:00:52 it's pretty light and you're going to
1:00:54 you're going to be really lonesome for
1:00:56 all this but we'll we'll try to make it
1:00:58 worth your while I'm not exactly sure
1:01:00 what's on for December but I'm sure
1:01:01 we'll have something spellbinding for
1:01:04 the December
1:01:05 meeting at least maybe hot water for tea
1:01:08 I'll see if that could be like the big
1:01:11 the big thing
1:01:13 like I better make myself a note be
1:01:15 spellbinding in
1:01:19 December yikes so uh thank you for all
1:01:23 your comments tonight the reason I said
1:01:25 have you read it because I know you
1:01:26 always come up with comments and I
1:01:28 hadn't heard any so then you did so that
1:01:30 was really cool so since there isn't a
1:01:32 meeting I hope you all have a great
1:01:34 Thanksgiving and uh uh don't eat too
1:01:37 much turkey and I will see we will see
1:01:40 you in December December turkey is my
1:01:42 food security
1:01:44 yes and then go walking on the trails so
1:01:47 and so we
1:01:49 are at