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City Council Committee of the Whole

Monday, November 18, 2024

6:30 PM · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topics tracked across meetings:
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update AB 8796 18/19
Waiver of Permit Fees for Low Income Residents and Building Permit Fee Deferral for Emergencies AB 8950 5/6
Citywide Strategic Plan Five-Year Update AB 8911 5/6
3. AGENDA ITEMS
3a
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update COM 0040
60 min · Stephen Padua, Planning Manager · packet pp.5–448
Topics: Land Use
Staff report:
I. Draft Ordinance
3b
Citywide Strategic Plan Update COM 0072
45 min · Dale Markey Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator · packet pp.449–550
Staff report:
The Administration recommends that the City Council Committee of the Whole recommend the approval and adoption of the update to the Our Issaquah Strategic Plan.
3c
2025-26 Budget: Deliberations COM 0039
30 min · Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator · packet pp.551–653
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
At the November 12, 2024 Council deliberations, City Council provided feedback on the budget and expressed interest in making adjustments to the proposed budget. The Administration proposes changes to the 2025-2026 draft budget in response to Council feedback for consideration. In addition to what is presented in the materials, the Administration anticipates additional
0:06 welcome everyone I council president
0:08 Walsh call
0:10 the November it's Sor November November
0:14 18th 2024 Committee of the whole meeting
0:17 to order at 6:31 p.m. as a reminder we
0:21 continue to have a remote aspect to our
0:23 meeting and so both staff and members of
0:25 the public may be participating in
0:27 tonight's meeting remotely via
0:31 there are multiple public comment
0:33 opportunities at tonight's meeting and
0:35 we have some lovely public uh members
0:38 here with us and online so there is
0:41 first a general public comment
0:42 opportunity at the beginning of the
0:44 meeting or if you want to wait through
0:46 the entire presentation kind of hear um
0:49 what's going on you can make comments
0:50 after the presentation and Council
0:52 question and answer period on any of
0:55 tonight's three agenda items so we'll
0:58 start with this general public com M uh
1:00 members of the public May address
1:02 council at this time in person or
1:04 virtually those who signed up in advance
1:07 to make comments will be called on first
1:09 if you're joining us virtually and would
1:11 like to make comments you're going to
1:13 look for the virtual hand if you're on
1:17 um a computer or smartphone look for
1:19 that hand icon or you can send the host
1:21 a chat message if you're on the phone
1:23 you can press star three if you're in
1:25 the room and didn't sign up we will ask
1:28 for speakers before closing that portion
1:30 of the meeting so I believe we have some
1:33 people signed up to speak so I'll just
1:35 move on to that portion you are invited
1:38 to address the council regarding matters
1:40 that are directly related to isqua
1:42 programs projects uh services or events
1:45 comments related to political campaigns
1:47 are not permitted please direct comments
1:50 to the whole Council and not individuals
1:53 while this is not a question and answer
1:55 session we will contact you to follow up
1:57 if needed when recognized if you're in
1:59 person you'll step up to the lecturn
2:01 press the button so that the microphone
2:04 shows up red or online um unmute your
2:07 microphone state your name address and
2:10 your relationship to the city speak
2:13 clearly and pause frequently and limit
2:15 your comments to 5 minutes there will be
2:17 a timer if you're attending virtually
2:19 and do not respond after your name or
2:21 phone number is called or if your
2:22 connection is lost unexpectedly the
2:24 meeting will need to proceed you are
2:26 encouraged to rejoin the meeting if able
2:29 personal attack suban language
2:31 derogatory remarks and disruptive
2:33 behavior will not be permitted so clerk
2:35 can you identify the first person who
2:37 has signed up to
2:39 speak sorry yes we have seven
2:42 individuals in the chambers here and two
2:45 uh virtual attendees indicating a desire
2:47 to speak so I'll assume you'll want to
2:49 speak at the top of the meeting here but
2:50 if you'd prefer to wait just let me know
2:52 and I'll skip over you so the first
2:54 person is Sharon Fus
3:08 in the short people position um thank
3:11 you all for the opportunity to speak I'm
3:13 the majority owner of art by fire down
3:16 here on front street where the glass
3:18 blowing studio um as many of you have
3:22 heard the starving artist thing it's
3:24 really true um we are a very small
3:28 business but both my husband and I also
3:31 still have our tech jobs to keep that
3:33 business open so we are very dependent
3:36 on the things that isqua provides in
3:39 order to keep our business open one of
3:42 the big things that has helped us is the
3:44 Downtown isqua
3:46 Association that extra foot traffic they
3:49 bring really helps our business to stay
3:52 running um so I am wanting to urge you
3:55 all to please give it what funding you
3:58 can and a especially take advantage of
4:01 that Main Street tax credit it's a great
4:04 way to stretch the city's budget and
4:07 make the dollars count as much as
4:09 possible um we have been in business
4:11 many years we've had many I've had kids
4:14 that have come to make Christmas
4:16 ornaments that are now adults bringing
4:18 their own kids um and we really love it
4:22 here when we were moving here we looked
4:25 all around the area and this quaint
4:27 downtown is What attracted us to by our
4:30 home in isqua and then we ended up
4:32 purchasing the business when the owners
4:35 retired um and we've often said that if
4:39 it was off in some industrial park or
4:40 something we wouldn't be at all
4:42 interested in having it it is that
4:45 downtown quaintness that's provided by
4:48 the flower baskets the events the artw
4:50 walks the wine walks and all the
4:52 different things that we that Dia
4:55 provides so um as much as we can we've
4:58 volunteered over the years art and I
5:00 have both been on their board at various
5:02 times um and you know even though we're
5:05 both working two jobs we try to make
5:07 time for it because it really does make
5:10 an impact both to our community and to
5:12 our business so thank you all for your
5:14 time I appreciate
5:16 it thanks Sharon and next art F art
5:30 good evening I'm here to to also speak
5:33 in support of you know the missions that
5:35 the city and Dia do together
5:38 and there's that emotional part that
5:41 Sharon talked about um we have families
5:44 that always do two Christmas trees and
5:46 the one Christmas tree is nothing but
5:48 ornaments they've made at the shop and
5:51 there's multiple families that do that
5:54 we've had everything
5:56 from Girl Scouts we have taught glass
5:59 flowing to uh a woman and her sister who
6:02 were blind we've had people who need you
6:06 know wheelchairs for assistance blow
6:09 glass it is a unique it is a special
6:13 thing that is frankly dying out in this
6:17 area a lot of glass Studios have gone
6:19 under particularly during the co time
6:23 frame what Dia and the city have brought
6:26 to us is an ability to reach out an
6:29 ability to have more financial resources
6:33 and
6:34 stability um when we have art walks or
6:37 when we have particularly isaad does
6:40 apples or you know the other
6:42 events we're pretty much guaranteed
6:45 anywhere from uh anywhere from 75%
6:49 greater Revenue those days or nights to
6:52 over 100%
6:53 Revenue um we've had Revenue during
6:56 esquad apples that has equal
7:00 and maybe a little more than our average
7:03 days at salm days so the impact our
7:07 business was huge the um streetery
7:11 during
7:13 covid and that kept us alive that gave
7:16 us a really you know a Lifeline that we
7:19 desperately needed because we were non
7:21 essential we were closed down for
7:23 months and it's it's a huge deal to shut
7:27 down a glass shop because it's 5 to 7
7:30 days when you shut down and it's 5 to 7
7:33 days to bring it back up otherwise the
7:35 furnace doesn't
7:36 live so really DIA has given us an
7:39 ability to reach out to so many more
7:41 people it's given us the ability
7:44 to give jobs to our staff we have you
7:49 know our full-time lead artist we have
7:53 two assistants we have another lead
7:56 glass blower we have an internet
7:58 salesperson
8:00 we're looking right now for a gallery
8:01 assistant but we also have a gallery
8:03 assistant these people have jobs these
8:07 people have more security because of the
8:10 help we get from the city and and
8:13 Via so anything you can do to you know
8:17 invigorate and help that mission is
8:21 really important to us it's important to
8:25 I don't really want to say customers
8:27 because so many of them are more like
8:28 friends it's important to our friends of
8:31 the shop and it's important you know to
8:34 us as you know stewards of something
8:37 that could go
8:38 away thank you very much have a good
8:42 evening thanks
8:44 art I'm sure there's going to be
8:46 somebody else coming after you I think
8:48 so uh who do we have next Kaye Jake
8:56 kayy hi my name is Kaylee Jake I'm the
8:59 executive director of the garage my
9:01 address is 2476 Southeast 30th Street
9:04 samamish
9:07 98075 um so I just I have a couple
9:10 things that I wanted to say tonight and
9:12 one is I wanted to thank you all for
9:15 listening to the teens from the garage
9:18 um last time they spoke about Metroflex
9:20 this is a really important service um
9:23 that provides transportation for the
9:25 teens that come to the garage so that
9:27 they can swing by and
9:30 you know access anything from a cup of
9:31 coffee to meeting with their case
9:34 manager mental health therapist before
9:36 they go home or it also allows them to
9:39 come down before they go to their job so
9:42 and then we um we have teens that are
9:44 outside of our city but are able to
9:46 access us because of Metroflex so this
9:49 is just an amazing service that you all
9:51 have brought and I just want to thank
9:53 you for putting it back into the budget
9:55 for this next year and I also want to
9:58 thank you all
9:59 um a couple of you attended our
10:02 community event last week and I cannot
10:05 say how much that means to them um our
10:08 community event was on Civics and um
10:12 they had a lot of thoughts and
10:14 feelings um but to be heard from their
10:17 local city government um so for you all
10:20 to take that time is just really
10:23 impactful and I just want to thank you
10:25 for
10:27 that thanks Kaylee
10:30 and who's next on our sign up list Aaron
10:34 lery
10:41 Aaron hi everyone sorry I didn't know
10:44 that I had signed up but of course I
10:46 have things to say um Aon longi I am a
10:49 resident of Northbend Washington but a
10:52 longtime um worker in the nonprofit um
10:57 landscape in isqua it's the only place
10:59 I've worked in Washington it does feel
11:01 like my second home um echoing kayle's
11:04 thoughts um I want to thank the council
11:06 for I'm currently working at the garage
11:09 and I want to thank the council for
11:11 their time in consideration in thinking
11:14 through the Metroflex um Kaylee already
11:17 Illustrated why that's such an important
11:19 service we have a team um here today
11:22 who's going to do so I also want to
11:25 thank you all for your work on the
11:28 budget um this is a really hard
11:31 Enterprise it's thankless in many ways
11:34 um and Human Services appreciates the
11:38 time and consideration that you put into
11:41 your Partnerships in the in the
11:43 community it really means a lot um and
11:46 thank you for doing this hard work at a
11:48 less than optimal time thank you thanks
11:52 sarin and Tisha who's our next Simon
11:56 field Simon come on up
12:04 good evening um my name is Simon Fields
12:07 I am a resident of the city of samamish
12:09 um however I am um in isqua two to three
12:13 times a week um to visit the garage it
12:15 is a critical resource for teens such as
12:19 myself to access um like kayy said
12:22 anything from a cup of coffee to a case
12:24 manager um I am very thankful to city
12:28 council for for extending for renewing
12:30 the services provided by Metroflex um
12:33 that allow me often to get from the
12:35 plateau to here um to use those Services
12:39 um and I can only urge you to continue
12:42 to renew that so that teens that their
12:45 adults are busy or they don't have a car
12:47 or the bus is not working well um can be
12:50 able to access those Services thank you
12:53 very
12:53 much thanks Simon appreciate it and
12:58 Corby cast
12:59 Orby come on
13:06 again hi I'm Corby castler I'm the
13:08 executive director of The Downtown isqua
13:10 Association um I wanted to clarify some
13:14 things around what a Main Street
13:15 Community is I am Main Street our
13:18 businesses our hundreds of volunteers
13:20 are Main Street it's comprised of the
13:23 community so it's not an enti entity
13:25 that gets membership or derives any
13:27 benefit from outside funding funding our
13:29 funding comes from our tax credit
13:32 incentive program from the state it
13:34 comes from donations from businesses um
13:36 the city has availed itself of the tax
13:38 credit program as have a number of our
13:40 businesses so I just wanted to be clear
13:42 that DIA has been a Main Street
13:44 Community since its Inception nearly
13:46 since it Inception 30 years ago so if
13:49 you have any more Main Street questions
13:51 please contact me I want to thank the
13:53 city for rethinking the funding of Dia I
13:57 understand coming in that there was
13:58 going to be no funding for 2025 and it
14:01 since has changed I don't know the
14:02 details I haven't seen it yet I'll stay
14:04 for the meeting and learn more I really
14:07 appreciate it because I know there have
14:09 been some issues for the last 5 years
14:12 before my time and I just want to make
14:13 sure that we're moving forward not
14:16 looking back and making sure we're all
14:18 doing our best to serve our small
14:20 family-owned businesses it scares me the
14:23 thought of what happens to a downtown
14:25 when the lights are off and some of the
14:27 lights will be off literally the holiday
14:29 lights will be off and I know again I'm
14:32 so appreciative of the work that has to
14:34 be done with the budget I have to manage
14:36 my own budget I'm very cognizant of what
14:38 we need to do I just want to make sure
14:40 there are a couple things that we
14:42 consider when we consider the budget one
14:45 is the tax credit incentive program just
14:47 make sure that we are doing everything
14:49 we can to keep those monies in isqua 25
14:53 cents on the dollar if the city puts 25
14:57 cents from the operating fund into
14:59 budget 75 cents goes back to to the
15:03 Downtown isqua Association and those
15:05 small businesses rather than the utility
15:07 tax going back to Olympia I just want to
15:10 keep it local and that's what Main
15:12 Street intended when they created the
15:13 program the other thing is we can do
15:17 this and I know that we have some work
15:19 to do and the city and Dia need to come
15:22 together in a lot of ways and
15:24 collaborate we we can't do it alone
15:27 nobody can do this alone and with budget
15:29 cuts I think it's important for
15:31 governments to lean on nonprofits that's
15:34 what we're here for we can add the value
15:36 at very little cost we're all volunteers
15:39 I'm the only paid staff member so we do
15:42 it very leanly and cleanly we we want to
15:45 make sure that we stay agile we stay
15:47 responsive to the businesses and to all
15:49 of our stakeholders so please consider
15:52 the tax credit and Center program and
15:54 making sure that we keep those monies
15:56 here locally thank you thanks kby and
16:00 who else do we have signed up Barbara
16:01 Mayfield Barbara come on
16:06 up my name is Barbara Mayfield my name
16:09 is Barbara Mayfield I reside in
16:11 Northbend but I have family in the esqua
16:13 highlands and grandkids that attend
16:15 Grand rdge so I'm very familiar there
16:18 and I own a business in the Downtown
16:20 isqua Plaza I think it's that way so you
16:23 can practically see it from your
16:25 Chambers I moved into that uh spot from
16:30 Western isqua I was over in the the uh
16:34 Cascade Business Park I'm sorry uh
16:38 beforehand and moved in there in March
16:42 February March of
16:43 2023 the very first day that I moved in
16:47 I went to a Dia general meeting annual
16:50 meeting down at uh the
16:53 sellers and I was so impressed by their
16:56 plans for activities throughout the
16:58 downtown Corps
16:59 that I just was amazed at what they
17:03 provided and wished I'd known what they
17:04 provided before I had signs made and
17:07 things like that because they do provide
17:10 networking for us downtown business
17:12 owners
17:14 uh during the summer months of 2023 I
17:18 hosted I was one of the hosts for the
17:21 wine walks and the amount of business
17:24 the amount of people that they brought
17:25 into my doors that would never have seen
17:27 me were a long arm quilting machine
17:30 showroom which is kind of a
17:33 unicorn there's not very many of us
17:35 around my business since I moved to
17:38 Downtown isqua Plaza has increased at
17:41 least
17:42 25% over the other side of
17:45 isqua um and I'm very happy where I'm at
17:48 I would be sad to see the amount of
17:51 people that get to see what goes on in
17:54 downtown
17:55 isqua um be stopped because the activ
17:58 ities have to stop I do plead with you
18:02 to continue to fund DIA to the best
18:04 extent that you
18:06 can uh I support them myself
18:10 financially and I really would love to
18:13 see you be able to do that uh on behalf
18:16 of the businesses I plan to be here for
18:19 a full 10 years so thank you very much
18:22 for
18:23 listening thanks
18:25 Barbara and do we have anybody signed up
18:28 Rob Peters Rob come on
18:35 up thanks for uh your time um I own a uh
18:40 landscaping and Lighting Company my
18:42 company does the uh lighting for isqua
18:45 the last few years and we also do
18:46 Northbend and Fall City um I moved here
18:50 about 22 years ago and uh one of the
18:53 things we loved about the town when we
18:55 moved here was the uh hanging baskets my
18:57 wife loved it we were from Texas and
19:00 like you just can't get flowers to grow
19:02 like that um and she that was just the
19:04 most amazing thing she had ever seen and
19:06 you know I found out that Dia did that
19:08 and
19:09 um and uh I had a lighting business for
19:13 uh 35 years and I've always wanted to
19:16 get back and I was like why don't we
19:18 light this city it would just be so
19:21 beautiful and uh he reached out to me uh
19:25 we were able to make it happen and um
19:29 another thing is that
19:31 um you know when I work with Northbend
19:34 they have a a real Cooperative uh
19:36 relationship with the Chamber of
19:37 Commerce actually uh partner with
19:41 everything with them with their lighting
19:42 when they do that and it just doesn't
19:44 seem like it's the same with uh with the
19:46 uh in the city of isqua so I'm hoping
19:49 that that can get rectified and
19:53 um the uh I know that working with the
19:57 that uh every that they take they're
20:00 super super Frugal and with all the
20:03 volunteers uh I volunteer and do the
20:06 Shell station still uh we're going to do
20:08 it this year uh without Dia that
20:10 wouldn't happen so I just think it's
20:13 something that should be continued as
20:15 long as possible and if you can do what
20:17 you can to fund it that'd be great thank
20:19 you thanks Rob you have anybody else
20:23 signed up to
20:24 speak yes we have at least one virtual
20:28 attendee the first is Robert Lurch and
20:31 Robert I've just made you a panelist so
20:33 you should now see an option to unmute
20:35 and you can also choose to turn your
20:36 video on if you'd
20:40 like sorry was that for
20:42 me it sure was you're up yes thanks
20:45 awesome well good evening Council uh my
20:48 name is Robert Lurch and I am one of the
20:50 owners of pickles Playland uh we're a
20:53 Doggy Daycare located downtown we've
20:54 been down there for about a year and if
20:57 you've heard me speak before you'll know
20:58 that we have have three locations one in
21:00 Redmond one in Kirkland and like I said
21:01 the one in isqua and uh I lived in isqua
21:04 for 20 years both my kids graduated from
21:06 isqua high school and uh so I have this
21:10 big affinity for the community and I'm
21:13 here to speak about the DIA and its
21:15 impact on our business uh I've mentioned
21:18 before that even though we've been in
21:19 Kirkland and Redmond for better part of
21:21 six years we're not affiliated with any
21:23 of the programs or the the the
21:26 nonprofits in those communities but we
21:28 are all in Ona when I say we I mean my
21:31 my partner and I are both committee
21:33 members um we opened our doors to host
21:36 events and um the reason we're all in on
21:40 Dia is because DIA has been Allin on us
21:42 before we even signed our lease
21:45 Christina reached out to us and said
21:47 what can we do meaning DIA to make
21:51 introductions to give you resources to
21:54 help you with permitting and that's
21:55 something that that was revelatory we've
21:57 never experiened at least I've never
21:59 experienced that in my business
22:00 Community where I had somebody who
22:01 reached out to me that not looking for
22:03 money but just merely looking to help
22:05 and it wasn't just a platitude because
22:07 the minute we opened our doors Christina
22:09 was knocking on our door quite literally
22:10 to come in and saying okay what can we
22:12 do as far signage what do you need from
22:15 us and we've never had that support from
22:18 any other organizations uh not I'm not
22:20 going to try to throw chamber of commer
22:22 under the buser it's just an anomaly to
22:24 have somebody who cares in a in an
22:27 organization that cares that much for
22:29 the small businesses we really felt it
22:32 and give you a an example um I just
22:35 ended a social media campaign for our
22:37 isqu location so spent a $155,000 on a
22:40 social media expert did being searches
22:43 Google searches and I just finished it
22:46 and the net result was that I earned
22:50 five times more clients from D events
22:53 and I did for spending $155,000 on
22:55 Facebook ads and so that really and over
22:59 and above just the money it it's been um
23:02 it's a bit of um it's not even
23:04 hyperbolic to say that I've probably
23:05 spoken with a thousand residents in
23:08 downtown isqua by opening our doors up
23:11 to the wine walks to the art walks to
23:14 the um isago apples to all those events
23:18 we've met so many people in the
23:20 community who just want to come in and
23:21 chat about dogs or wine or whatever uh
23:25 truly feel like we're a part of the
23:26 community and that's indicative of the
23:29 impact that Dia had so much so that for
23:32 the last couple of months everyone in my
23:34 location has been collecting toys and um
23:38 and clothes for both humans and for dogs
23:41 so we were going to have uh the first
23:43 time ever we were going to put on and we
23:45 did just put it on last weekend a family
23:47 giving event and of course we held it in
23:50 issaqua so although we were collecting
23:52 toys and clothes and kirkin and Redmond
23:55 we distributed them in isqua and the
23:57 toys that that we have left over we're
23:59 donating to the issaqua food bank so
24:03 that's just a sort of a a minor uh
24:06 indication of our our our really our
24:10 warmth for the community and again that
24:12 has been part and parcel to the warmth
24:14 that DIA has has extended to us we've
24:17 only been there for a year although like
24:18 I said I've lived in isqua for 20 years
24:20 but again we feel closer and more tied
24:22 in to isqua than we do in any other
24:25 community and so one of the reasons
24:28 we're we're as successful we have been
24:31 is because we we know we have this
24:33 relationship that's bigger than us um
24:36 and the fact that we
24:38 are you know providing a service that
24:41 people award-winning service that people
24:43 like to the citizens of isqua the fact
24:46 that we're paying property tax and and
24:48 uh you know excise tax we're employing
24:51 people and doing things like this giving
24:54 uh uh bizaar that we had this weekend is
24:57 um really is in large part to our um our
25:00 relationship with Dia so again I know
25:03 your job is difficult I do every single
25:05 day I'm allocating resources amongst my
25:08 businesses and trying to make it sure
25:09 that we're successful uh but if you
25:12 please consider sort of the the the the
25:15 ancillary benefits supporting an
25:17 organization like Dia um in your
25:19 budgeting discussions um I would greatly
25:22 appreciate it thanks for your time
25:24 Council thank you
25:26 Robert and clerk to we have anyone else
25:29 indicating a desire to speak um
25:32 virtually I'm going to check in real
25:33 quick with Brian runberg I know he'd
25:35 like to make comments on the
25:36 comprehensive plan and let me see if
25:38 he'd like to do that now or later in the
25:41 meeting so Brian you've just been made a
25:43 panelist and would you like to make your
25:45 comments
25:48 now and we're having some trouble
25:50 hearing
25:54 you we can see you
26:01 still can't hear
26:09 you
26:15 no no nope you keep trying we appreciate
26:21 that yeah why don't we see if there's
26:23 anybody in the chamber or online that
26:25 wants to make a comment while you work
26:28 on your audio and we'll see if we can
26:29 check back in with
26:31 you um so I will just take a moment and
26:34 see if there's anybody on hand um that
26:38 has not spoken that would be interested
26:41 speak not seeing anybody in person I'll
26:45 just check in um there can you hear me
26:48 now yes we can great oh wonderful
26:51 wonderful thank you sorry about that um
26:54 thank you um I'm uh Brian runberg I'm
26:57 the principal the runberg architecture
26:59 group and um I also own the property at
27:02 1085 Lake Drive formerly the Red Robin
27:06 over in Pickering uh Pickering place and
27:10 um I'm commenting tonight on the
27:12 comprehensive plan periodic update um we
27:16 as you are aware and and we've been went
27:19 through with the group here with uh the
27:21 Pioneer project status and I appreciate
27:24 appreciate that process um and we're
27:27 attempting to redevelop the
27:28 um into much needed mixed use multif
27:31 family housing in central
27:33 isqua um the central esqua vision is
27:37 defined as where people live work Play
27:40 and Learn however there's no living no
27:43 housing on the north side of the I90
27:45 within the urban core boundary and what
27:48 we're experiencing now there's there's
27:50 no there's current challenges we we're
27:53 experiencing in producing this housing
27:55 um due to a um
27:58 the code is overly prescriptive and has
28:01 inherent conflicts that haven't been
28:03 exposed or applied to the industry I
28:05 think we're the first project going
28:07 through second compounding that is
28:10 inflexibility there isn't um or does not
28:12 seem to be any mechanism within the code
28:15 to accommodate flexibility such as
28:18 alternative equivalent path to meet the
28:20 intent of the code where what we usually
28:23 experience in in most cities
28:24 administrative departures or director
28:27 decisions
28:28 um the only path available for a
28:30 majority land use code in isqua
28:32 currently is a variance process uh which
28:35 the staff does not feel empowered to
28:38 deploy even when situations meet the
28:40 variance
28:42 criteria um we feel the the
28:44 comprehensive plan is the right vehicle
28:46 to establish the policy intent to allow
28:48 code flexibility and an off-ramp for
28:51 some of the
28:52 city's uh overly prescriptive design
28:54 standards that conflict um with the
28:57 inherent over all comp plan policies and
28:59 I'll give you one example we have dozens
29:01 and dozens of them that we've uncovered
29:04 but uh land use policy A2 States ensure
29:07 the development regulations including
29:09 allowed density uses and site
29:12 requirements support isqua's preferred
29:14 land use pattern so um what what we
29:19 would suggest um and propose is
29:22 adding a line in the in in the in the
29:25 comp plan Amendment here is quotequote
29:28 to provide administrative flexibility to
29:30 deviate from building standards to
29:33 achieve these goals um we can submit
29:35 these in writing tomorrow and welcome a
29:37 dialogue around how the comp plan should
29:40 encourage flexibility so that going
29:41 forward the city is able to better reach
29:43 its goals in particularly in central
29:45 isqua so thank you for the opportunity
29:48 to speak and present that to
29:49 you thanks
29:51 Brian and I'll just check I know we've
29:54 checked in person but is there anybody
29:57 else on online that might be indicating
29:59 a desire to speak no okay fantastic well
30:04 we heard from bunch of folks which is
30:08 always appreciated we always encourage
30:10 your uh involvement and um hearing from
30:14 the perspective of Dia businesses and
30:18 executive director as well as um people
30:22 from the garage and students there um
30:25 and then someone on the comp place and
30:28 just really appreciate everyone's
30:30 perspective on that so we've got a busy
30:35 um agenda this evening you're welcome to
30:37 stay but you know you don't have to if
30:39 you don't want to so looking on to the
30:44 next um agenda item we've got Comm 0040
30:48 comprehensive plan periodic update and
30:51 this is presented by Steven Padua
30:53 planning
30:56 manager thank you council president W
30:58 good evening council members so tonight
31:01 I'm going to present on the
31:02 comprehensive plan as amended and
31:03 proposed in tonight's packet uh the
31:06 purpose is to go
31:08 over at a high level all the Amendments
31:10 that we're proposing for the periodic
31:12 update of the comprehensive plan and to
31:14 solicit any additional amendments from
31:16 city council and discussion tonight so
31:19 the One Direction needed for tonight is
31:22 does city council
31:23 want any additional amendments to
31:26 recommend as P of the plan prior to
31:32 adoption a little background information
31:34 for the comprehensive plan so the beyond
31:37 the purpose of being the city's
31:39 highlevel guiding policy guiding
31:41 document the comprehensive plan um meets
31:43 a series of requirements from the
31:45 Washington State growth management act
31:48 the conference plan addresses Urban
31:50 growth and um Economic Development
31:53 Regional Transportation and
31:54 infrastructure needs preservation of uh
31:57 open space affordable housing and public
31:59 participation in the planning process in
32:02 City Planning
32:05 processes and um what we call this is
32:08 the planning framework for the city is
32:09 squa the comprehensive plan provides
32:11 guidance to many of our functional plans
32:14 or topic areas where we identify
32:16 implementation and uh identification of
32:19 actions and prioritization of resources
32:22 when it comes to implementation of
32:24 different topic areas and all those
32:26 functional plans feed into
32:28 implementation and financing in our
32:30 strategic plan which you're going to
32:31 hear more about later tonight as well as
32:34 the city budget and and many of our
32:37 regulations in municipal code and then
32:40 come full circle our performance metrics
32:42 we take a look at how we're doing how
32:44 we're gauging our performance in all
32:46 those topic areas which brings us back
32:48 to the comprehensive plan to make any
32:51 necessary adjustments to make sure that
32:53 we're achieving what we want to achieve
32:54 over
32:56 time so for this periodic update we're
32:59 proposing nine elements um I'll go over
33:02 each of them um a little later in this
33:04 presentation but for the most part uh
33:08 there are three elements that aren't
33:10 necessarily required by the state and
33:12 the city has chosen to incorporate these
33:14 elements as priority topic areas to
33:17 identify and and discuss as the city
33:20 continues to grow the human services and
33:23 the arts and culture elements are two of
33:25 those elements that the city has decided
33:26 to add and to the conference plan as we
33:28 consider growth and the environment
33:32 climate element is is identified a
33:33 little bit differently because it's
33:36 technically not required yet but per
33:38 House Bill 1181 it will be required by
33:41 the city in 2029 but because by the
33:44 amazing work done by our sustainability
33:47 staff we're ahead we have all the
33:50 elements that are required at least as
33:52 we know of for House Bill 1181 to comply
33:55 with what's required from that bill in
33:57 2029
34:01 so for the process for the periodic of
34:03 day you can kind of look at in two
34:04 different phases for the first phase
34:07 staff looked at each of the individual
34:08 elements to identify any required
34:10 changes from the state the region or the
34:13 county um but also look at our system
34:16 plan updates or our functional plan
34:18 updates to see if we're addressing any
34:19 required changes within functional plans
34:22 in the different topic areas once staff
34:26 assessed the different Heth elements we
34:28 went to the respective Boards of
34:30 commissions and the council committees
34:32 to propose different policy questions
34:35 and then we refined refined each of the
34:37 elements before getting to phase two
34:39 which was the assembly for the U the
34:42 latest phase for the comence plan which
34:44 was fully reviewed by the planning
34:45 policy commission and the Planning
34:47 Development environment Council
34:49 committee which brings us today for
34:50 final review with f city
34:54 council the general themes for the
34:57 comperat Plan update we had three
34:59 different areas the first being
35:02 identifying and assessing all the
35:04 different state requirements that have
35:06 been put in place since our last
35:08 periodic update in
35:10 2015 we made major changes to our
35:14 housing policies and the direction we
35:16 want to go with housing we made a lot of
35:18 changes as it relates to the environment
35:21 natural natural environment and climate
35:23 um addressing climate change we also
35:26 looked at uh addressing
35:28 access and um the amount of services
35:32 provided were not provided for
35:33 disadvantaged
35:35 communities across the board we also
35:37 looked at divers diversity Equity
35:39 inclusion values within all the policy
35:42 and goal areas and all the different
35:43 elements and then we also looked at the
35:45 functional plans to make sure that we
35:47 were consistent in the terminology that
35:48 we're using but also in the strategies
35:51 for how we are addressing each of the
35:53 different topic
35:55 areas the last piece we looked at for
35:58 the comprehensive Plan update was design
35:59 and access So currently the
36:02 comprehensive plan is identified in
36:03 multiple different PDFs on the city
36:06 website that a lot of people have a
36:08 little difficulty accessing but also
36:10 using so what we're planning to do and
36:13 and something that we decided to do in
36:15 early on which influenced the design of
36:17 the comprehensive plan is we want to put
36:19 it on the code publishing platform with
36:21 our municipal code and what this allows
36:24 us to do is make it a little bit easier
36:25 to search but also adds more search
36:27 functionality to how we're using the
36:29 comprehensive plan for Community MERS
36:31 braful staff it also allows us to create
36:34 links with our Municipal Code so that
36:36 any references to the comprehensive plan
36:38 has a direct link where that's
36:40 identified in the
36:45 compy now I'm going to just provide a
36:48 brief overview for each of the sections
36:49 of the conference plan for the
36:52 introduction we primarily simplified it
36:54 we really wanted to dive into what does
36:56 the comprehensive plan provide us whilst
36:58 telling the story of who this this city
37:02 is and who we want to be as part of this
37:04 conference plan planning process it
37:07 outlines the process for the periodic
37:09 update and then it identifies the
37:11 Strategic plan guiding principles to
37:13 link with the implementation and
37:14 performance metrics on how we want to
37:17 gauge our performance for
37:21 implementation for the land use and
37:23 sustainability element we
37:27 paired the changes with this element
37:30 with the creation of the new environment
37:31 and climate element because many of the
37:34 policies that created the new
37:35 environment and climate element came
37:37 from our existing land use element so we
37:40 split it in half created the two
37:41 separate elements and then we went
37:44 through each of the policies and goal
37:46 areas for the land use sustainability
37:48 event to make sure Equity was being
37:50 addressed to make sure that our housing
37:52 and job targets are
37:55 identified we also moved several
37:57 policies to environment element as part
37:59 of the discussions with an environmental
38:00 board and planning policy commission and
38:03 then with land use sustainability we
38:04 considered a rezone redesignation of
38:06 City Hall Northwest
38:10 property so for the redesignation rezone
38:13 of the city property also known as City
38:15 Hall Northwest we proposed the rezone of
38:18 community facilities facilities to Urban
38:22 Corp and a redesignation from Community
38:25 faes to mix use and this was vied by the
38:27 hearing examiner and the hearing
38:30 examiner is recommending and supporting
38:32 the staff recommendation for the rezone
38:35 and the
38:39 redesignation for the housing element we
38:42 a lot of the changes were in compliance
38:44 with multiple several State mandates
38:47 around housing the first being House
38:49 Bill 1220 which looked at emergency
38:52 permanent Supportive Housing positional
38:54 housing and Emergency Shelters so we
38:56 added new policies and modified policies
38:59 to support many of the changes that went
39:01 into this and earlier this year city
39:03 council adopted code updates that
39:05 allowed a lot of these uses to fully
39:08 comply with house
39:10 build we also looked at house build 1337
39:13 and 1110 to address middle housing and
39:17 accessory dwelling units or adus to what
39:20 we want out of middle housing and how
39:23 that should go into our regulations
39:25 which is a concurrent project onoy that
39:28 city council will discuss early next
39:31 year additionally we
39:33 also reviewed the policies and ensured
39:36 Equity was being addressed in a lot of
39:38 our housing policies um in combination
39:42 with policy updates to the land use
39:43 element and then we also identified the
39:46 affordable housing targets which was the
39:48 other last component to compliance with
39:50 house spill
39:53 1220 with the transportation element we
39:56 actually updated our Mobility master
39:58 plan only a few years ago so many of
40:01 those goals and policies were more
40:03 recently updated so for this periodic
40:05 update we FOC uh focused a lot of
40:08 efforts around what the recommendations
40:10 came out of the transit studies so
40:11 Transit specific policies to support the
40:15 light rail planning guide as well as our
40:18 uh transit system updates that were
40:20 proposed from the transit study we also
40:23 made changes to comply with House Bill
40:25 1181 which identified
40:27 new level of service standards for
40:30 Transit and then we also identified uh
40:33 goals and policies that looked at equity
40:35 and access as related to non-motorized
40:38 Transportation walking or biking in city
40:44 as and for this new element environment
40:47 climate stewardship we it this we
40:51 created this element primarily to comply
40:52 with House Bill 1181 but by creating
40:56 this element it also emphasizes the
40:58 importance of the natural environment in
40:59 CL and addressing climate change in this
41:01 aqual community which is very apparent
41:04 in the creation of the climate action
41:05 plan the discussions on the resources
41:08 dedicated for how we want to address
41:10 climate change and then it's also
41:13 recognized in the discussions that we
41:16 have been having and continue to have
41:17 with the environmental board on how we
41:19 want to address those two major
41:21 topics and many of the policies were
41:24 pulled from the land use sustainability
41:25 element um but they were still under uh
41:30 we had many discussions with the
41:31 environmental board on how best to make
41:33 amendments to what was already adopted
41:38 before for the arts and culture element
41:41 we primarily made edit uh amendments to
41:44 guide the upcoming development of the
41:47 art strategic plan and added policies to
41:51 specifically uh address the Creative
41:52 Arts
41:55 District for economic vit ality we made
41:58 major updates concurrent with the
42:00 development of the economic development
42:02 action
42:03 plan that this action plan was adopted
42:05 earlier this year and so the goals and
42:07 policies are consistent what was adopted
42:09 by city
42:11 council for the Human Services element
42:14 we primarily just updated what was
42:16 consistent with the Human Services
42:18 strategic plan that was adopted by city
42:20 council less than two years ago and so
42:23 we weren't proposing anything new than
42:25 what was adopted in the Strat
42:30 for the parks element we updated in
42:32 alignment with the update to the what
42:35 was originally the park strategic plan
42:38 and we made name changes to now
42:40 recognize the new name which is the park
42:41 system plan we also made changes to
42:45 identify the creeks and Peaks concept
42:47 which is the expanded uh concept from
42:49 the green
42:54 necklace for utilities public service
42:57 and capital facilities this is actually
42:59 a merge of what was originally two
43:00 different elements and the reason for
43:03 the merge is because we found that both
43:05 elements actually had the same level of
43:07 service standards identified in both and
43:10 so to reduce some of the confusion we
43:12 just merged it into one so that we could
43:14 be more efficient with how we're
43:16 tackling utilities the needs for public
43:19 services and the needs on Capital
43:21 facilities in one element rather than in
43:23 two and we um similar to all the other
43:27 elements we reviewed the language with
43:29 the utility system plans and consistency
43:32 of terminology particularly with the
43:34 environment
43:39 element the appendices for the uh
43:41 comprehensive plan contain all the
43:42 analyses and data and information that
43:44 we used in the development of this
43:50 periodic and then timeline for the
43:52 legislative process leading up to today
43:53 we started with public hearing on August
43:56 22nd with planning policy commission
43:58 they deliberated on the comprehensive
44:00 plan on September 12th we then met with
44:03 the Planning Development environment
44:04 Council committee on September 9th and
44:07 the council committee deliberated on
44:09 October
44:11 1st the final recommendations that came
44:14 from the planning policy commission um
44:17 first included adding discussions in the
44:20 land use
44:21 element updating the policy B6 in the
44:24 land use element and then adding
44:27 environmental justice policy to The
44:29 Climate environment
44:31 element one note from the planning
44:33 policy commission that we wanted to
44:35 identify for city council was that the
44:39 uh attention of the planning policy
44:40 commission was primarily focused on
44:42 goals and policies so they just wanted
44:44 to highlight that they didn't spend as
44:45 much time on the introductions as they
44:47 did on the goals and
44:51 policy with the Planning Development
44:53 environment Council committee they are
44:57 recommended
44:58 approval with final direction listed
45:02 which includes recognizing City history
45:04 and the
45:06 introduction highlighting the commitment
45:08 to the
45:10 environment including the 1993
45:13 values in the
45:16 introduction directly addressing the
45:18 King County affordable housing
45:19 committee's
45:20 recommendations and being more specific
45:23 on neighborhood character and spirit
45:25 this was terminology that we found in
45:27 the comprehensive plan that just see was
45:29 too vague for what we were trying to
45:31 achieve with the comprehensive plan so
45:32 we just provided a little more
45:34 information on what we meant in those
45:41 sections for next steps the next step
45:43 for the comprehensive plan is coming
45:44 back to City Council on December 2nd for
45:46 tentative
45:49 adoption your materials tonight include
45:52 a matrix of changes which identifies all
45:54 the changes we made or proposing for the
45:56 period AC update as well as the reasons
45:59 we are making the change includes a
46:02 public comment Matrix which um contains
46:05 all the virtual public comments staff
46:07 received with staff
46:09 responses there is a document with list
46:12 of all the meetings that were conducted
46:14 in support of development of this
46:15 periodic
46:17 update you also have an letter from the
46:19 environmental board um with their
46:21 recommendations and highlights from this
46:23 periodic update process and IT staff
46:26 also includ included a staff response uh
46:28 table at the end of that
46:31 letter there's also a letter from the
46:33 Planning Development Council
46:35 committee on their recommendations for
46:37 the comprehensive plan
46:39 amendments there's the King County
46:41 affordable housing committee
46:43 letter there is the summary of decision
46:46 for the redesignation and rezone uh from
46:49 the hearing
46:50 examiner he also included a executive
46:53 summary for the environmental impact
46:55 statement for the comprehensive plan
46:57 primarily because the environmental imp
47:00 environmental impact statement isn't
47:02 necessarily a document that Council
47:05 adopts but it's more supplemental to
47:07 this comprehensive plan so we just want
47:09 to identify what was in that in a
47:11 summary
47:13 docum you also have the draft ordinance
47:15 for adoption of the comprehensive plan
47:18 and you have the draft comprehensive
47:20 plan in in multiple
47:23 exhibits so the administration
47:25 recommends approval of the comence
47:27 planned amendments has presented to city
47:31 council so this brings me back to my
47:34 direction need slide does city council
47:36 have any additional amendments for the
47:38 conference excellent um I'm trying to
47:41 remember at this point do we get
47:45 commentary from PD chair or does that
47:47 come after question and
47:50 answer okay fantastic chair hunt the in
47:55 thank you council president wsh
47:57 um there is a letter as one of the uh
48:00 one of several attachments with this
48:02 item in our packet tonight that is a
48:04 letter um uh by myself on behalf of our
48:10 um Council committee that reviewed this
48:12 over the course of multiple meetings um
48:15 I will preface this with Council uh
48:18 president Walsh and council member Hall
48:20 if there's anything I miss please uh as
48:22 always let me know um and uh correct me
48:26 if I uh mate anything we reviewed this
48:30 over several meetings and um as was
48:33 mentioned in
48:34 Steven's uh update here we focused on
48:38 making sure that um first of all
48:41 compliance was was met there are many um
48:46 many requirements by different agencies
48:48 that the comprehensive plan has to has
48:50 to clear and so uh we wanted to make
48:52 sure that we were meeting all of those
48:54 requirements we also focused on consist
48:57 with other plans there have been many
48:59 updates over the last several years to
49:02 city um to City functional plans and
49:07 things like the isqua climate action
49:09 plan um as well as the uh Regional plans
49:14 the state growth management act Regional
49:16 plan uh Vision 2050 and then King County
49:19 Planning policies so all of those were
49:22 considered and all of those policies
49:24 were aligned within our comp
49:26 comprehensive plan then there were many
49:30 uh multiple state laws that we reviewed
49:34 and I think for me the focus here was
49:37 there were state laws that we were
49:38 required to consider certain things like
49:40 Emergency Shelters um and new targets
49:43 for housing uh to meet housing um to in
49:48 increase the supply of housing for folks
49:50 at different income levels for example
49:52 and so for our committee we focused on
49:55 these are state law requirements how do
49:58 we make sure that we're providing
49:59 guidance that's is aest specific to help
50:02 future policy makers to help the
50:04 planning policy commission um guide us
50:07 in how we can achieve the intent of
50:09 these laws in a way that is specific to
50:12 our circumstance here in
50:14 isaga um there was the the Emergency
50:17 Shelters one which was HB uh 1220 there
50:21 were also multiple missing M missing
50:23 middle housing bills that um were passed
50:28 and we took those into account how how
50:30 we can make sure that we achieve that
50:32 goal of increasing the missing middle
50:34 housing which is in between large uh
50:39 multif family apartment buildings but um
50:41 also not single detached family homes so
50:44 uh duplex Triplex fourplex and
50:47 adus and then um
50:50 additionally we came into compliance
50:53 early with HB
50:55 1181 which was the the climate action
50:57 planning provision um that is because of
51:01 the great work of our volunteer
51:03 commission and our our community and of
51:06 staff and this Council in adopting our
51:08 isqua climate action plan and really set
51:10 us up for being able to comply with that
51:12 law early we also uh complied with our
51:15 various functional plans including our
51:17 housing uh strategy action plan um in
51:21 addition to the multiple other
51:23 functional plans across the city in our
51:26 last last meeting we also addressed
51:29 terminology while we do hearken back to
51:32 the 1993 values for example we wanted to
51:34 make sure that we were using modern
51:36 terminology that we were referring to
51:39 community um Aesthetics but recognizing
51:42 that over time our city is changing and
51:45 so wanting to make sure that we were
51:48 recognizing that with the terminology
51:50 that we used and that we were also using
51:52 terminology that um reflected the
51:54 diversity and the growing diversity of
51:56 our community and then as has been
51:58 mentioned we also reviewed it with an
51:59 eye to readability wanting to make sure
52:01 that folks could access um the
52:03 information they wanted easily and
52:06 quickly throughout the document um
52:08 recognizing that most folks will be
52:10 searching for the part of this very
52:12 large document that they specifically
52:14 want to key
52:16 into um few other notes we did agree
52:21 with the majority of policy changes
52:23 recommended by the city advisory boards
52:26 one in particular was mentioned that I
52:27 just wanted to note for Council which
52:30 was land use B6 um and that has to do
52:34 with coming into agreement with our tree
52:38 um tree protection I believe um but I
52:42 did want to make sure that that was the
52:44 one that we were talking about there um
52:47 we Rec we recommended the majority of
52:49 changes that the planning policy
52:50 commission uh
52:53 recommended we also included
52:55 Environmental board's feedback
52:57 especially about achieving a sustainable
53:00 high quality natural environment and
53:02 going above and beyond what is required
53:04 to protect our natural environment
53:06 recognizing the importance of that in
53:08 isqua we recommended enhancing the
53:12 context around the plan which has been
53:15 reflected in multiple areas adding more
53:18 history adding more context around this
53:21 is where we're going but this is also
53:22 where we have been as a city and um
53:27 and then as I mentioned making sure that
53:29 as we address these you things like the
53:32 King County affordable housing
53:33 committee's recommendations that we're
53:35 including those in a way that is useful
53:38 to current and future policy makers as
53:40 we look to achieve these um goals of
53:43 increasing our affordable housing across
53:45 the
53:46 community
53:47 and all of that is uh summarized in the
53:50 letter we did have multiple meetings um
53:53 to review this as well as the uh prev
53:56 previous Council presentation of this
54:00 and so would happy would be happy to
54:01 take any questions from any council
54:04 members on our our um discussion and
54:07 also again if my fellow colleagues on
54:11 the committee would like to make any
54:12 additions happy to hear those as
54:17 well I think you summarized it quite
54:19 well and we did the hard work so
54:22 hopefully uh that comes through in the
54:25 letter and all of the
54:27 information um so I think at this point
54:30 do you want to put up the question again
54:32 just so that we have that really at this
54:36 point we're looking for questions and
54:38 then we'll get back into feedback so
54:41 we'll start with council member hunt and
54:43 then council member
54:46 Hall yes so uh
54:50 I I
54:51 saw the flag on um policy B6 and and I
54:56 wanted to make sure that that was
54:59 explained and I I do believe that that
55:02 has to do with um
55:04 recognizing um trees in in urban
55:07 environments and those sorts of things
55:09 but I wanted to check in with you if
55:10 that is the correct policy that we're
55:11 referring to yes that's the correct
55:14 policy okay thank
55:17 you so you were just clarifying and then
55:20 you'll have comments
55:21 later uh yes just because that one
55:24 didn't have any um didn't have any
55:27 explanation there yeah fantastic Council
55:29 Mall um thank you for writing the letter
55:33 on our behalf it was very comprehensive
55:35 for the comprehensive plan so I
55:36 appreciate that um so um to clarify I
55:40 thought the I thought the policy that we
55:42 disagreed with PPC on had to do with
55:44 economic vitality and underserved
55:47 communities so can you
55:49 was help me sorry help me understand um
55:54 this other one because I don't I don't
55:56 don't seem to
56:02 remember give me one moment to pull up
56:04 the policy
56:30 uh that seems to be a Tapo on our part
56:34 for the presentation it was you are
56:37 correct it was economic Vitality policy
56:39 A1 that was discussed by the by the
56:41 committee and so the discussion on that
56:44 one was the whether or not to include
56:47 the basically the second half of that
56:50 policy which was a requirement um from
56:53 the regional staff to identify
56:56 how we are providing services to small
57:01 locally local historically lack Capital
57:04 represent underserved communities and at
57:06 risk of displacement and so that was the
57:09 discussion from planning policy
57:10 Commission on whether or not to separate
57:12 that out or not I apologize for the typo
57:15 that you were correct that was that
57:18 that okay I'll look to the other members
57:21 any other
57:23 questions um being brought up okay
57:26 so at this point we have an opportunity
57:29 for any members of the public that want
57:31 to make comments on the comprehensive
57:34 Plan before we give into our feedback so
57:37 I'll just check in online if you're on
57:40 the um smartphone or computer you can
57:43 use the raise hand icon or send the host
57:45 a chat message you're on the phone you
57:47 can press star three you're in person
57:50 you can raise your hand jump up and down
57:53 anything like that we'll look for you um
57:56 is there anybody indicating a desire to
57:58 speak um we had a virtual attendee Glenn
58:01 cuadros who had his hand up for quite
58:03 some time it's possible his comments
58:05 related to another item I'm going to
58:07 check in with Glenn if that's okay
58:10 great so Glenn I've made you a panelist
58:13 if you do have some public comments to
58:14 make tonight you're welcome to do so
58:24 now Glenn just checked checking in with
58:26 you one last time if you did indeed want
58:28 to make some public comments tonight you
58:30 can unmute your microphone and do so
58:37 now okay so he is not unmuting and just
58:41 check here I don't think anyone else
58:44 virtually is indicating a desire to
58:46 speak well we always appreciate that
58:48 you're stepping above and beyond
58:50 monitoring people in between the process
58:52 uh who might be indicating desire to
58:54 speak I will just take a moment to state
58:56 that uh we receive a lot of emails on
58:59 topics like this so if somebody has uh
59:02 comments that they want to make City
59:04 counil at isqua wa.gov um will hit all
59:08 seven of us and we'll get a chance to
59:11 hear your voice and respond so turning
59:14 back to council you know this is just a
59:18 kind of touch point we're not looking to
59:20 adopt anything tonight but I think the
59:23 administration would like to know if
59:25 there is any feedback
59:27 um needed any uh amendments or
59:29 adjustments that we are looking for on
59:31 the comprehensive plan so does anybody
59:34 have any
59:39 comments council member Hall no
59:44 um comments for changes or anything like
59:47 that um I did just want to make sure to
59:50 share some comments of thanks even
59:52 though I'm sure we'll be able to do that
59:53 once we get to the um final adoption I
59:57 just wanted to say once again excellent
59:59 work um a significant amount of time and
1:00:02 effort has gone into updating the
1:00:04 Strategic plan especially after having
1:00:06 just updated title 18 so I hope very
1:00:09 soon you all get to read that sigh of
1:00:11 relief and take a vacation or something
1:00:14 like that um I um thanks again for
1:00:18 writing the letter I did just want to
1:00:19 just say I thought it was interesting
1:00:22 how on the agenda we have the Strategic
1:00:24 plan also and it got me thinking about
1:00:27 well if our strategic plan which is our
1:00:29 5-year vision is let's say the paper
1:00:32 Atlas or something um that you that you
1:00:35 take out the comprehensive plan is
1:00:36 really the Google Maps right the allout
1:00:39 vision for what we want to do in our
1:00:41 community how we get the issaqua that's
1:00:43 on paper that we always talk about um to
1:00:46 come to life so I also just wanted to
1:00:47 recognize the meaning of the work that
1:00:49 you all have put in and just thank you U
1:00:51 for your engagement which will um last
1:00:55 much longer than our lifetimes here in
1:00:57 isqua so again uh thank you very muching
1:01:00 forward to
1:01:03 adopting fantastic well I'll just jump
1:01:06 in on that topic I I
1:01:09 think knock on wood this has been a
1:01:12 really smooth process and a lot of that
1:01:15 is because of the work that we had
1:01:16 already done in our functional plans a
1:01:18 lot of that is because we had done the
1:01:21 work on Title 18 so we're very familiar
1:01:24 with the areas of our code um that
1:01:27 really needed to you know just have a
1:01:31 reference in this um a lot of it is
1:01:33 because the hard work of our boards and
1:01:35 commissions who did the deep deep dive
1:01:39 on so many of these topic
1:01:41 areas and a ton of it is from just the
1:01:45 darn hard work of our staff um who know
1:01:48 our city and our code and our needs very
1:01:51 well and have done done the work on this
1:01:54 um I can also back to previous
1:01:57 comprehensive plans and the fact that we
1:02:00 did the work on the regional growth
1:02:02 Center meant we didn't have some of the
1:02:05 same difficult conversations that other
1:02:09 communities had to have regarding where
1:02:11 we going to up Zone we already know
1:02:14 where that plan is for the city of isqua
1:02:17 and so we were able to kind of roll that
1:02:20 forward and continue just working on the
1:02:23 customization of how do we adapt to all
1:02:25 of the state requirements and all of the
1:02:28 things that we needed to work into this
1:02:32 um and keep it referring to isqua and
1:02:36 keep it um really helping us move that
1:02:38 plan forward so just wanted to throw in
1:02:40 my appreciation do we have any other
1:02:43 comments feedback on
1:02:45 this I think you get a uh oh okay
1:02:49 council member Joe yeah thank you um I
1:02:52 would just like to uh thank you council
1:02:55 president Walsh for your work on the
1:02:57 affordable housing committee um I know
1:03:00 that uh as part of that work you're
1:03:02 you're reviewing the housing element for
1:03:05 each and every uh uh King County HB
1:03:10 County Pierce County and SES County
1:03:13 comprehensive plan we only have to read
1:03:15 one of them but you've read the housing
1:03:17 element for all of them so thank you um
1:03:19 the comments that came back from the
1:03:21 affordable housing committee uh were
1:03:23 helpful to um challenge us to you uh a
1:03:26 little bit more by saying you know
1:03:28 you're doing a great job but here are
1:03:29 some other things to think about and I
1:03:30 appreciate the administration's uh
1:03:33 guidance on how we are going to address
1:03:36 those uh requests or those suggestions
1:03:39 in the next generation of our housing
1:03:41 analysis and Mr P I look forward to uh
1:03:44 seeing that as we go forward as well but
1:03:47 um just wanted to make sure that your
1:03:50 work was not not overlooked in in that
1:03:52 whole process so thank you very much
1:03:55 appreciate that though I will say it's
1:03:57 the King County affordable housing
1:03:58 committee so we are only reviewing for
1:04:01 the cities in King County but yes that
1:04:03 is quite a lot my apologies I I I
1:04:06 mistook you for the psrc yes there you
1:04:09 go there you go but no that that has
1:04:11 been a really good point of being able
1:04:14 to pull in those elements of making sure
1:04:16 that housing at all levels of
1:04:19 affordability is addressed um and I
1:04:23 appreciate that the King
1:04:24 County let's see King
1:04:28 County cpps what is it thank you
1:04:33 countywide planning policies I just I've
1:04:35 heard that so many so many times um you
1:04:39 know that was the first part of it was
1:04:40 adopting the fact that we had to As
1:04:42 Cities support that in our comprehensive
1:04:44 plans and so we're seeing that come
1:04:46 through and uh I think we got a gold
1:04:49 star for uh our ability to address all
1:04:52 of those elements not all of the cities
1:04:54 have so appreciate that from staff as
1:04:57 well do you have everything that you
1:04:59 need yes I do and and I do want to
1:05:01 extend my own thanks to the planning
1:05:03 team who supported and made sure that
1:05:06 this project came out as as successful
1:05:09 as as we see it as and uh Christen Leon
1:05:12 senior planner who looked at uh our land
1:05:14 use and housing and arts and culture and
1:05:17 uh senior Transportation planers uh
1:05:19 Thomas Val Who's online listening in um
1:05:21 he looked at the infrastructure Capital
1:05:23 facilities public uh Public Services and
1:05:26 transportation um and then our associate
1:05:28 planner Valley valer repter looked at
1:05:31 everything else and so we I want to make
1:05:34 sure that I I extend my thanks to them
1:05:36 because a lot of the hard work was done
1:05:37 by them and um we have a great planning
1:05:40 document because of that because of the
1:05:42 amount of effort that the entire team
1:05:44 put into this and so thank you for all
1:05:47 the Gratitude uh but I also want to make
1:05:49 sure they're recognized for their hard
1:05:50 efforts as
1:05:52 well thanks Stephen appreciate it thanks
1:05:56 for passing it
1:05:57 on um okay so that is one of three items
1:06:02 on our agenda tonight uh so the second
1:06:05 item is Comm
1:06:07 0072 the Citywide strategic Plan update
1:06:11 and this is going to be presented by
1:06:12 Dale Mary crimp the assistant to the
1:06:14 city administrator because we don't like
1:06:17 to do anything small on a night we're
1:06:20 taking on all of the big things
1:06:29 good evening city council Dale Mary
1:06:32 crimp assistant to the city
1:06:33 administrator and I am thrilled to be
1:06:35 here tonight uh following on Steven's
1:06:38 coat Tales here he stole a little bit of
1:06:40 my thunder but that's good I think
1:06:42 intentionally uh to share the final
1:06:44 proposed updates to the r isqua
1:06:46 strategic
1:06:48 plan the purpose of this evening is to
1:06:51 present the council with the final draft
1:06:55 of the proposed updates to the our isqua
1:06:57 strategic plan as a reminder this update
1:07:01 focused on the plan's goal area goal
1:07:04 statements objectives and recommended
1:07:07 actions while the the focus on those
1:07:10 three elements did necessitate some
1:07:12 minor updates to the opportunity and
1:07:14 background in each goal area it did not
1:07:18 pertain to and therefore did not
1:07:20 consider any updates to the Mission
1:07:23 Vision guiding principle
1:07:26 nor any changes to the goal area
1:07:28 categories
1:07:31 themselves this evening um the
1:07:34 administration is requesting that the
1:07:35 council review this final draft
1:07:38 recommended update and make fi any final
1:07:41 recommendations specifically does the
1:07:43 council agree with the policy Direction
1:07:46 outlined in the recommended update and
1:07:49 are there any additional additional
1:07:51 revisions or additions that the council
1:07:53 would like to see included in this final
1:07:55 stage ahead of approval and
1:08:01 adoption my favorite slide it's becoming
1:08:03 one that I'm going to be sad when I
1:08:04 don't have presentations that includes
1:08:06 this slide um but for as a refresher and
1:08:10 then for anyone in the audience who
1:08:11 hasn't uh seen me present this slide
1:08:14 before uh our first uh isqua strategic
1:08:18 plan the our isqua strategic plan was
1:08:20 adopted in 2019 following an 18-month
1:08:24 Community engagement
1:08:26 process through that process uh the plan
1:08:29 was developed and it provides leadership
1:08:31 both the administration and the city
1:08:33 council with a highlevel policy
1:08:35 Direction reflected in the six schal
1:08:38 areas um with between originally between
1:08:42 one and five objectives per goal area
1:08:44 and a number of aligned potential
1:08:46 actions for each
1:08:48 objective there was always a plan to
1:08:51 revisit the plan after 5 years and
1:08:55 therefore updating the Strategic plan
1:08:57 became one of Mayor Paulie's top 2024
1:09:02 priorities early in this year 2024 the
1:09:06 mayor selected members to a community
1:09:08 task force three of whom are members of
1:09:11 our city council and one of whom is in
1:09:12 the audience this evening um to Le to
1:09:15 inform and to lead the Strategic Plan
1:09:18 update the task force met six times
1:09:21 between late February of this year and
1:09:23 late June of this year first grounding
1:09:26 themselves in the current plan then
1:09:29 developing recommended updates for the
1:09:31 objectives in each goal area and then
1:09:34 working with City staff and our city
1:09:37 staff subject matter experts to
1:09:39 determine aligned actions for each of
1:09:41 their new or refined
1:09:43 objectives it will come not as a
1:09:46 surprise uh that many of the updates
1:09:48 that Steven discussed as updates to our
1:09:50 comprehensive plan those same Trends are
1:09:53 reflected in the updates to our
1:09:54 strategic plan which is exactly how it
1:09:57 should be the task force then presented
1:10:00 their recommendations to the city
1:10:02 council on July 16th of this year and at
1:10:05 that presentation you provided them with
1:10:07 positive feedback on their
1:10:09 recomendations and some very pointed uh
1:10:12 feedback for the administration as we
1:10:14 considered additional revisions moving
1:10:17 forward specifically you ask City staff
1:10:20 to attend to the Strategic plan
1:10:22 prioritization criteria that exist
1:10:24 within the plan document when making
1:10:26 final
1:10:27 revisions in July and August City staff
1:10:30 reviewed the recommendations from the
1:10:31 task force and considered them through
1:10:34 the following lens the level of impact
1:10:37 and Alignment to the goals and
1:10:39 objectives the likelihood of
1:10:42 success the ability for the city to
1:10:45 control the actions outlined in the plan
1:10:48 the cost and the budget alignment and
1:10:51 the five-year time Horizon so really
1:10:53 bringing this plan into its intended
1:11:01 Horizon the administration would like to
1:11:03 take a quick moment here before we dive
1:11:05 in just to acknowledge the 15 members of
1:11:07 the mayoral task force including the
1:11:09 three city council members for their
1:11:11 essential contributions to this project
1:11:14 this update is not just grounded in the
1:11:16 task force work but you'll see even
1:11:19 after the staff revisions the board and
1:11:22 the board and commission engagement and
1:11:23 the additional public engagement it
1:11:26 still largely resembles what you saw in
1:11:30 July also I'd like to thank um and the
1:11:34 administration would like to thank the
1:11:35 over 40 board and commission members who
1:11:38 attended a special meeting of board and
1:11:40 commissions making of 10 of our uh board
1:11:44 and commissions were represented at this
1:11:45 meeting to provide additional feedback
1:11:48 in September leading to the addition of
1:11:51 a couple of new objectives um in this
1:11:54 final recommendation
1:11:58 I don't have any words for this slide
1:12:00 just that I think it's important to see
1:12:02 the photos of the people that did the
1:12:04 work um and it's also important to
1:12:06 acknowledge you can see peppered in here
1:12:08 in little places um our city staff who
1:12:11 also provided invaluable knowledge as
1:12:13 they were providing Steven's team with
1:12:16 feedback on the functional plans and the
1:12:18 way that those feed into our
1:12:19 comprehensive plan they were also
1:12:21 providing that same feedback to our task
1:12:24 force members to our board and
1:12:26 commission members as they fed feed feed
1:12:28 feedback into this plan as
1:12:31 well so as I mentioned the task force
1:12:35 presented their recommendations to City
1:12:36 Council in July and their
1:12:39 recommendations were warmly received and
1:12:41 then you also provided specific feedback
1:12:43 to the
1:12:44 administration the first was to ensure
1:12:46 alignment between the Strategic Plan
1:12:47 update and the city's comprehensive plan
1:12:49 and functional plans was also to bring
1:12:52 the recommended actions within the time
1:12:54 Horizon that 5-year time Horizon and
1:12:57 then also to ensure that the recommended
1:12:58 actions within the plan could be
1:13:00 expected to be financed through the
1:13:02 city's budgets over the time Horizon of
1:13:04 the plan and one thing you likely
1:13:06 noticed um in the the uh draft update
1:13:11 presented tonight that there have been
1:13:13 some changes made specifically with the
1:13:15 budget in mind in some cases that leads
1:13:18 shows up as a more generalized action so
1:13:21 the mention of microtransit rather than
1:13:22 any particular program and in some cases
1:13:26 entire actions were removed or replaced
1:13:29 with an acknowledgement that we don't
1:13:31 currently foresee it's something within
1:13:33 our budgetary or fiscal um
1:13:38 ability so now the update the proposed
1:13:42 update differs from the original 2019
1:13:44 plan in the following ways so the 2019
1:13:47 plan at a high level six goal areas 16
1:13:50 objectives the task force presented
1:13:53 recommendations again within those six
1:13:55 goal areas but with 20 objectives and
1:13:57 they specifically recommended new
1:13:59 objectives within infrastructure City
1:14:01 leadership and services and Mobility the
1:14:05 final proposed update coming to you
1:14:06 tonight has those same six goal areas
1:14:09 but also has two additional um so 22
1:14:13 objectives total two added one in
1:14:15 environmental stewardship and one in
1:14:17 Social and economic
1:14:20 Vitality before I dive into the specific
1:14:22 objectives and some of the aligned
1:14:24 action
1:14:25 I I want to return to a what should be a
1:14:28 familiar slide which is the trends um
1:14:31 represented in this proposed update
1:14:34 you'll notice this is very similar to
1:14:36 the slide that the task force presented
1:14:38 and that's because not a whole lot has
1:14:40 changed in terms of the trends of this
1:14:43 update emergency preparedness Public
1:14:46 Safety and Community resilience is an
1:14:49 overarching theme of the proposed update
1:14:52 while ref it's reflected both in the
1:14:54 brand brand new emergency preparedness
1:14:56 objective within City leadership and
1:14:58 services it's also reflected in a
1:15:01 fleshed out Public Safety objective so
1:15:04 while there was an added objective in
1:15:06 2021 around Public Safety it had no
1:15:09 specific actions this update builds out
1:15:12 specific actions aligned to that
1:15:15 objective also it's reflected in the
1:15:18 fact that climate resilience and
1:15:19 emergency preparedness show up across
1:15:22 different goal areas not only do they
1:15:24 have their own goal area um and their
1:15:26 own objective you'll also see elements
1:15:29 of resilience and climate preparedness
1:15:32 and emergency Readiness reflected in
1:15:35 infrastructure social and economic
1:15:37 vitality and environmental
1:15:39 stewardship which brings me to the
1:15:41 second Trend continued investment in
1:15:44 climate action and sustainability this
1:15:45 should come as no surprise it was a huge
1:15:47 headline of what Steven shared about the
1:15:49 comprehensive Plan update and so that is
1:15:51 also reflected in here uh the objectives
1:15:55 in our environmental stewardship goal
1:15:58 area have been expanded to truly align
1:16:01 with the commitments we've made in our
1:16:02 climate action plan and you'll see there
1:16:05 are additional success measures in that
1:16:06 section as well that align with the
1:16:08 success measures in the isqua climate
1:16:10 action
1:16:12 plan hoing housing affordability and
1:16:15 livability again another topic that came
1:16:18 up in the elements of the comprehensive
1:16:20 plan that's
1:16:22 also supported in the revision visions
1:16:25 and the added emphasis here and the
1:16:27 update to the Strategic plan as
1:16:30 documented in the 2023 Community survey
1:16:33 livability whether that's affordable
1:16:36 housing housing affordability or
1:16:40 amenities the
1:16:42 um this continues to be on the minds of
1:16:46 our community and an ongoing focus in
1:16:49 growth and development and social and
1:16:51 economic
1:16:52 vitality and last but certainly not
1:16:55 least oper operationalizing Equity
1:16:58 Equity is one of the guiding principles
1:17:00 in the original strategic plan and as
1:17:02 mentioned in the original uh City
1:17:04 leadership and services goal area this
1:17:08 proposed objective or this proposed
1:17:10 update goes a step further and outlines
1:17:12 very specific actions and the how of
1:17:15 operationalizing that
1:17:19 commitment so what I'll do is I'd like
1:17:22 to walk through each goal area and share
1:17:25 with you high level some of the changes
1:17:27 um and then also some of the aligned
1:17:29 actions especially if there's a brand
1:17:30 new objective you'll notice on each
1:17:32 slide and in in your packet that any um
1:17:35 objective that is highlighted in Gray um
1:17:39 or is highlighted um that connotes a new
1:17:42 objective or an objective that changed
1:17:44 significantly from the 2019 plan so the
1:17:48 2019 plan for Mobility there were three
1:17:50 objectives we're proposing four
1:17:52 objectives for this update we made a
1:17:55 significant rewrite to the first one
1:17:58 with a focus on multimodal
1:17:59 Transportation which was not a focus in
1:18:01 the 2019 plan with the with a feeling
1:18:04 that multimodal transportation and
1:18:06 Investments there are needed to
1:18:08 alleviate congestion and also so the the
1:18:11 Reliance on solo vehicle travel this
1:18:14 shows up in particular actions of
1:18:16 incentivizing electric vehicle
1:18:18 infrastructure evaluating Trail and ro
1:18:20 road connectivity and also
1:18:23 implementation of the intelligent
1:18:25 transportation
1:18:27 system the second objective is is nearly
1:18:30 the exact same uh we still think it is
1:18:32 incredibly valuable to keep a focus on
1:18:35 near term connections and
1:18:37 efficiencies the third objective is a
1:18:39 new recommended objective focusing on
1:18:42 Safe Systems in Road design so
1:18:45 specifically this started originally as
1:18:46 a as the idea Vision zero so the idea of
1:18:50 eliminating um all uh pedestrian bike
1:18:54 fatalities and collisions with cars uh
1:18:57 the administration feels that taking the
1:18:59 more General language of Safe Systems
1:19:01 rather than committing to something like
1:19:02 Vision zero um provides us some
1:19:05 flexibility in exactly how we do that
1:19:07 but as you look at the actions within
1:19:09 the objective you'll see that they align
1:19:11 very closely to any Vision zero plan
1:19:13 that you look at so a redesign or a
1:19:17 commitment to Road redesign to increased
1:19:19 safety on our streets and then the last
1:19:21 objective here um is focused on
1:19:23 establishing the foundation for future
1:19:25 light rail this is a an update of the
1:19:28 light rail objective that existed in the
1:19:32 plan for growth and development um there
1:19:35 are four objectives recommended in this
1:19:37 update um and they are the four
1:19:39 objectives with minor changes um from
1:19:42 the original plan the first is probably
1:19:45 the most notable change in language and
1:19:47 I will say that is a trend of these
1:19:48 updates a lot of them are an update in
1:19:50 the language they're not necessarily an
1:19:52 update in the spirit maybe of the object
1:19:55 but bringing that objective into the
1:19:56 current day Steven talked a little bit
1:19:59 about how the the language um in the
1:20:02 values around land use have been
1:20:05 Revisited in the comprehensive plan the
1:20:07 task force recommended that we revisit
1:20:09 some of the language in the land the
1:20:11 growth and development or land use
1:20:12 section of this plan and this updated um
1:20:15 objective reflects that updated language
1:20:19 the second objective is largely the same
1:20:21 again with some very small language
1:20:23 updates and some changes to actions
1:20:26 specifically um the actions to achieve
1:20:29 balanced growth have been updated in
1:20:31 this plan the third objective is largely
1:20:34 the same the actions are largely the
1:20:36 same and the fourth objective reflects a
1:20:38 shift from a focus on near-term
1:20:40 livability so a focus on amenities to a
1:20:43 focus on long-term livability a focus on
1:20:45 climate resilience and proximity to
1:20:48 Mobility options and so you can see
1:20:50 that's again where that Trend in
1:20:52 community resilience um and climate
1:20:55 shows up outside of just um the
1:20:57 environmental stewardship goal
1:21:01 area speaking of environmental
1:21:03 stewardship that is the next goal area
1:21:05 uh this goal area originally had three
1:21:08 objectives the proposed update has four
1:21:10 objectives with this first objective
1:21:12 being the most notable um change it was
1:21:16 recommended by the boards and
1:21:17 commissions that an objective focus on
1:21:19 sustainable processes and approach to
1:21:22 project and program management be part
1:21:24 of this update it's the how we get to um
1:21:29 how we get to doing the work that we'd
1:21:31 like to commit to so seeing a change in
1:21:33 how we do our work not just what we've
1:21:35 committed to doing objective two
1:21:37 reflects an even more bold stance on the
1:21:39 city as a regional leader in climate
1:21:41 action and commitment to making progress
1:21:44 on targets outlined in our isqua climate
1:21:46 action plan objective three is nearly
1:21:50 the same language as our original 2019
1:21:52 plan an objective four which is similar
1:21:55 to the old objective three around land
1:21:59 acquisition but a focus on acquisition
1:22:01 that provides Community benefit and
1:22:04 ecosystem benefit so again aligning with
1:22:07 the park system Plan update but also
1:22:09 aligning with our commitment to climate
1:22:13 mitigation the social and economic
1:22:16 Vitality uh goal area the 2019 plan
1:22:19 originally had three objectives this
1:22:22 update is proposing four objectives and
1:22:24 the the last objective um is the most
1:22:27 notable uh change I will get there it
1:22:30 will be the last one I get to on this
1:22:32 Slide the first objective remains
1:22:34 similar with a focus on business
1:22:36 Recruitment and Retention for living
1:22:38 wage jobs the second is again similar
1:22:41 more specific actions on how the city
1:22:43 can attempt to build and expand
1:22:45 Partnerships that uh increase affordable
1:22:48 housing and housing affordability the
1:22:50 third objective is the language is
1:22:52 exactly the same and similar to what
1:22:54 Steven mentioned about the update uh to
1:22:57 the comprehensive plan this is reflect
1:22:59 the actions reflect the Human Services
1:23:01 strategic plan um and is so an update in
1:23:04 align with that functional plan this
1:23:06 newly added fourth objective came as a
1:23:08 combination of feedback received from uh
1:23:11 City Council in July around thinking
1:23:14 about um the loneliness epidemic and the
1:23:17 need to emphasize human and Community
1:23:20 connections and also feedback we
1:23:22 received from boards and commissions
1:23:24 specifically around the pride in our
1:23:28 arts and our public spaces and so really
1:23:30 thinking about how can our public spaces
1:23:33 and our spaces where we have public art
1:23:35 be thought of as assets to the community
1:23:37 and potential places to Foster
1:23:42 connection for our city leadership and
1:23:45 services goal area the original plan had
1:23:48 two objectives in 2019 in 2021 that was
1:23:51 increased to three objectives with the
1:23:53 addition of the public safety objective
1:23:55 this plan is recommending four
1:23:57 objectives the first two objectives are
1:24:00 revisions to two key Concepts Civic
1:24:03 engagement and efficient effective and
1:24:05 Equitable Services the original two
1:24:07 objectives essentially touched on those
1:24:10 two themes as well this is just a
1:24:12 Rewritten updated version of those two
1:24:15 elements what I will say is you can see
1:24:17 the most significant change in the plan
1:24:19 is the clarity and specificity of the
1:24:21 actions that the task force and boards
1:24:24 and commissions recommended to help the
1:24:26 city make progress in these areas
1:24:28 objective three was added in 2021 no
1:24:31 language was changed to the objective
1:24:33 but it was reaffirmed here in this
1:24:34 update and potential actions focused on
1:24:37 community policing Community Court and
1:24:40 enhanced um behavioral health support
1:24:42 have all been outlined as potential
1:24:45 actions and then objective four which is
1:24:47 a new uh objective for this goal area uh
1:24:52 which elevates the priority of Emergency
1:24:54 Man management and emergency
1:24:55 preparedness in the community so
1:24:57 preparing the city as an organization
1:25:00 preparing our isqua community and
1:25:02 responding to and recovering from any
1:25:05 future emergency while the city has
1:25:08 always maintained processes and
1:25:10 practices for emergencies The increased
1:25:13 focus on Preparation is Paramount and
1:25:15 that was reflected in the conversations
1:25:17 that the uh task force
1:25:20 had and then last but certainly not
1:25:22 least and I know uh our task force
1:25:24 members that presented on infrastructure
1:25:26 would be sad that it came at the end but
1:25:28 I thought for continuity with the plan
1:25:29 we would go in that
1:25:31 order um so certainly not you know last
1:25:34 in order not Las in our hearts objective
1:25:37 one for infrastructure remains largely
1:25:39 the the same there were some small
1:25:41 changes to language and specifically
1:25:42 some small changes to the language
1:25:44 within the actions a lot of feedback we
1:25:47 got from boards and commissions when we
1:25:49 brought the draft to them was that they
1:25:51 didn't just they just didn't understand
1:25:52 some of the language and so we wanted to
1:25:54 make it really clear uh what those
1:25:56 actions meant and then the addition of
1:25:58 the second objective as I mentioned at
1:26:00 the top resilience um infrastructure
1:26:03 resilience emergency preparedness as an
1:26:06 important Trend in this update and
1:26:08 that's reflected in this new objective
1:26:10 within this
1:26:13 section so the 2019 plan um two to four
1:26:18 measures per goal area uh generally
1:26:20 aligned to the I should say success
1:26:23 measures this I would say is one of the
1:26:25 most notable changes you probably
1:26:26 noticed as you read through in the
1:26:28 original plan each goal area had a few
1:26:31 success measures at the bottom um in 20
1:26:35 uh 20 the city council adopted a
1:26:37 performance measurement plan that sought
1:26:39 to expand uh the number of measures
1:26:42 including those success measures to
1:26:44 things that we could track in an ongoing
1:26:46 way to be able to report out on the
1:26:49 progress we were making what we're
1:26:51 proposing in this update is that success
1:26:54 measures live in alignment with each
1:26:56 objective so that instead of just
1:26:58 getting an update on whether an action
1:27:00 has been taken we're also able to track
1:27:02 over time if we're making progress on
1:27:04 each objective um and so you'll see that
1:27:07 in some cases uh there's an I should say
1:27:11 none of the success measures have gone
1:27:12 away it is actually just a combination
1:27:15 of what we are already tracking and a
1:27:17 few additional measures that staff said
1:27:19 hey I already track this and this would
1:27:21 let you know if we're making progress on
1:27:23 this objective it's what I'm using to
1:27:25 know if we're making progress on this
1:27:26 objective and so it's a combination of
1:27:28 the original success measures our
1:27:30 performance measurement plan and a
1:27:32 handful of additional measures um and so
1:27:35 that is probably one of the the most
1:27:37 notable changes that you'll see it's not
1:27:39 one to four at the end of a goal area
1:27:42 but at except with the exception of one
1:27:45 uh objective at least one performance
1:27:48 measure aligned to each
1:27:52 objective so um as I wrap up and I
1:27:56 promise I'll pause for questions here in
1:27:57 a moment the final proposal in front of
1:27:59 you um this evening is a culmination of
1:28:02 a number of decision points and various
1:28:06 options considered and choices made
1:28:09 along an each of the following uh points
1:28:13 in this process the task force
1:28:15 considered a variety of objectives and
1:28:18 their alignment to different goal areas
1:28:20 City staff worked to bring those task
1:28:22 force recommendations into the framework
1:28:25 for the Strategic plan prioritization
1:28:27 which is outlined in the 2019 plan board
1:28:30 and commission members added additional
1:28:33 objectives and actions um and we also
1:28:36 received additional public feedback
1:28:38 which is what outlined in one of the
1:28:39 attachments today um while a lot of that
1:28:44 feedback was largely positive and then
1:28:48 focused on implementation level so not
1:28:50 even Action level but when you do this
1:28:52 action I would like you to think about
1:28:54 this um and so we're going to keep uh
1:28:57 that feedback for when we get to the
1:28:58 implementation of some of those
1:29:01 actions the recommendation tonight um is
1:29:05 that the council um we're recommending
1:29:09 the approval and Adoption of the update
1:29:11 to the plan at the December 2nd meeting
1:29:14 and so um what that will look like is
1:29:17 after tonight's conversation any
1:29:19 additional necessary feedback will be
1:29:21 incorporated and will return to City
1:29:23 Council on December M 2nd to hopefully
1:29:25 approve and adopt and that will set the
1:29:27 staff up to prepare for implementation
1:29:30 and tracking starting in q1 of
1:29:33 2025 direction for tonight um
1:29:36 specifically do you agree with the
1:29:37 policy Direction reflected in these
1:29:39 revisions and are there any additional
1:29:41 revisions the council would like to see
1:29:43 included at this final stage of the
1:29:51 process is that it Dale just that that's
1:29:55 it just that that's good that was just a
1:29:58 little bit okay uh Council question and
1:30:01 answers council member
1:30:03 Ms thank you Madame council president a
1:30:06 couple of questions can you go back to
1:30:08 ES1 for a
1:30:10 second absolutely I don't I just don't
1:30:14 understand it
1:30:19 at or or maybe I just don't understand
1:30:21 how it relates to Environmental
1:30:24 yes so the recommendation here is a
1:30:27 focus on sustainable project management
1:30:30 practices so not just that
1:30:32 sustainability itself is the only team
1:30:35 really thinking about the implementation
1:30:38 of green infrastructure or sustainable
1:30:41 processes in their project management
1:30:43 but it's something that they're going to
1:30:44 lead um and see from teams across the
1:30:46 city so I think what youve seen in some
1:30:48 of the actions outlined below is sort of
1:30:51 training for staff on how to think about
1:30:53 their projects through a lens of
1:30:55 sustainability um potenti can you give
1:30:58 an example I cannot personally I have
1:31:01 not gone through the training um
1:31:03 sustainable program management can you
1:31:06 even just Define that that phrase for me
1:31:11 the way that I understand it is in the
1:31:14 same way that we might think about
1:31:16 Equitable like a an equity lens
1:31:19 Equitable program or project design
1:31:21 Equitable program management it'd be the
1:31:23 same idea a but through the lens of
1:31:24 sustainability well equity and the lens
1:31:27 of equity but then you said Equitable
1:31:29 program management and I would be as
1:31:31 lost on Equitable program management as
1:31:34 I would be on sustainable program
1:31:35 management totally fair um I think
1:31:38 that's part of the reason why we're the
1:31:40 the board the environmental board and
1:31:43 the sustainability team felt strongly
1:31:45 about adding this in um is that it's not
1:31:48 something that we know how to do it's
1:31:49 not something that every um team is
1:31:54 uh what's the word I'm looking for um is
1:31:58 fluent
1:31:59 in I've just I mean I've done a lot of
1:32:02 program management both professionally
1:32:04 and here on in Council and I've just
1:32:07 never seen sustainable program
1:32:09 management before they're just I
1:32:11 understand each of those three words
1:32:12 individually but you put them together
1:32:14 in this combination and I don't know
1:32:16 what they mean so can I ask that someone
1:32:19 come back with a slide to explain that
1:32:22 absolutely before we
1:32:24 honor
1:32:25 before of December City administrator uh
1:32:29 and I would also and thank you council
1:32:31 member Mars I would also direct the
1:32:33 council to the potential actions on page
1:32:37 518 of the packet um I think that helps
1:32:40 a little bit that talks about developing
1:32:42 sustainable infrastructure policy and
1:32:44 track project alignment to that policy
1:32:46 evaluate new plans policies and codes
1:32:48 with existing environmental plans to
1:32:50 identify gaps and vulnerabilities uh and
1:32:53 environmental and climate project
1:32:55 programs complete an after action review
1:32:56 to assess progress to goals and
1:32:58 objectives and identify recommendations
1:33:00 for improvement and to train staff and
1:33:02 sustainable processes environmental
1:33:04 design to support climate and
1:33:06 sustainability goals so hopefully that's
1:33:08 a little bit more information um and
1:33:10 certainly when we come back on December
1:33:12 2nd we'll ask uh uh this been to come
1:33:18 and hold on yep thank you and I did have
1:33:21 a second question yeah um you said in
1:33:24 all but one of these you had two or more
1:33:27 metrics what was the one where you
1:33:28 didn't have two or more metrics and do
1:33:30 you have at least one good the the very
1:33:34 last objective in INF the new objective
1:33:36 in infrastructure um and
1:33:40 so we have the other infrastructure
1:33:44 performance measures that we feel
1:33:45 strongly about and feel as though they
1:33:47 are good indicators um we've not landed
1:33:52 on something that we think totally help
1:33:54 a a non-action completed um performance
1:33:58 measure that we think gives us a good
1:34:00 indication of our progress on that very
1:34:02 here and I'll bring this one up on that
1:34:04 very last objective well I can I I mean
1:34:07 I could offer you one right now would be
1:34:08 great which is no more than pick a
1:34:10 number of hours of downtime for major
1:34:13 city uh systems per year right you could
1:34:15 say no more than three hours of downtime
1:34:18 per year or one hour of downtime or be
1:34:20 like Amazon and say no more than five
1:34:22 minutes of downtime per year I mean it's
1:34:24 whatever a number that would be
1:34:26 reasonable uh because that that would
1:34:29 allow you to to set a goal and then you
1:34:31 could then your electronic systems and
1:34:34 your processes and all that you could
1:34:36 you could parse out the you could budget
1:34:39 basically how much per year you would
1:34:41 expect of downtime in each of those
1:34:43 areas and add it up to whether it hits
1:34:45 your number or not right but I would
1:34:47 love to see like our you know plows not
1:34:51 more than two days down per year right
1:34:54 or a number like that but that that
1:34:55 would be that would be a way to measure
1:34:58 this this one that's great thank
1:35:01 you thanks great any other
1:35:07 questions okay I will look on then um we
1:35:12 have a moment for public comment and see
1:35:16 if there's anyone in the room or online
1:35:19 who would indicate a desire to speak on
1:35:23 the strategic Plan update and so anyone
1:35:27 online um just raising your virtual hand
1:35:30 sending the host a chat message if
1:35:31 you're on the phone star three or in
1:35:34 person you can jump up and down wave
1:35:38 hands okay looking like nothing okay
1:35:41 then we will go into
1:35:45 feedback counc member Hall uh thank you
1:35:49 um specific piece of feedback because I
1:35:51 think um for the most part thrilled with
1:35:55 the revisions that we see here I mean
1:35:57 that's basically what you heard last
1:35:58 time too from the council and thankful
1:36:00 for the process and people who
1:36:02 contributed um to the process again um I
1:36:07 came prepared to talk about how I think
1:36:09 it was a missed opportunity to not have
1:36:11 stuff about um the epidemic of
1:36:14 loneliness and isolation and then you
1:36:15 spoke to it as part of that new
1:36:18 objective and I think that's telling for
1:36:20 me that I didn't pick that I didn't
1:36:21 clock that with that one so so I think
1:36:23 that needs a a little bit more of a
1:36:25 tweak um it's all it's almost I mean you
1:36:28 you bring up connecting community
1:36:29 members in the objective which is good
1:36:32 um but it's doesn't it doesn't really
1:36:34 live in the potential actions or the
1:36:37 success measures although it does talk
1:36:39 about the number of people attending
1:36:41 arts and culture events which gets at
1:36:43 that kind of in a roundabout way um I
1:36:46 guess my ask before um we come back on
1:36:49 on this next is if we could have um we
1:36:53 could Che on this a little bit more um
1:36:56 there is a a city partner Community
1:36:59 partner up in the highlands lindsy
1:37:01 Pinkston with the highlands Council who
1:37:02 has been living and breathing this kind
1:37:04 of work ever since the US surgeon
1:37:06 general's warning has come out who would
1:37:08 I think would just be a good person to
1:37:09 connect with and say hey what do you
1:37:11 think about how do we best align this um
1:37:14 and acknowledging that staff already
1:37:17 went through the Strategic plan with the
1:37:19 lenson budget I'm not necessarily saying
1:37:21 that we need to have brand new ction
1:37:23 items or anything like that but perhaps
1:37:25 finding ways to use language um in a way
1:37:29 where it's easily recognizable that okay
1:37:31 this objective helps to solve this
1:37:33 problem that exists in the community um
1:37:35 but again thank you for for hearing that
1:37:37 um from the last meeting I really
1:37:39 appreciate it and um everything else
1:37:41 looks great to
1:37:42 me right any other feedback comments
1:37:45 Deputy council president D Michelle yes
1:37:48 uh I'll just be very brief I just uh
1:37:51 again another great body of work we're
1:37:53 really seeing tonight the culmination of
1:37:56 a lot of hard work uh by our staff and
1:37:59 our community so thanks for our
1:38:01 community members that were also
1:38:03 involved and I just want to thank you
1:38:05 for that um addition of uh the Arts and
1:38:09 acknowledgement of their importance in
1:38:11 our community and the the other uh goal
1:38:15 uh that was also added I think is very
1:38:16 important as well so uh I think good
1:38:19 listening good work and uh are very
1:38:21 appreciative of the work that's been
1:38:23 done thank
1:38:24 you excellent council member
1:38:28 MZ thank you uh I think what's most
1:38:32 important in here was what you said on
1:38:36 give me page 546 I don't know what it
1:38:39 corresponds to under your under your
1:38:42 original 2019 success measures versus
1:38:44 your 2024 updated success measures um
1:38:49 and where you talked about aligned to
1:38:51 objective in order to provide provide
1:38:53 more information about progress on
1:38:55 individual objectives this has been a
1:38:58 persistent um concern of mine is that we
1:39:01 Define goals and metrics and then we
1:39:05 don't revisit them often enough this is
1:39:07 in engineering called having a closed
1:39:09 loop system versus an open loop system
1:39:11 right and uh so I'm thrilled that that
1:39:14 is an important part of our plan and I
1:39:17 look forward to seeing these measures
1:39:19 both the existing measures and the new
1:39:21 measures as functions over time to
1:39:24 understand how we're actually making
1:39:25 progress against so that's the part that
1:39:28 what I heard about today that I'm most
1:39:29 excited about and I think will bear
1:39:31 fruit um for us and the council and also
1:39:34 for the public about how we're doing
1:39:36 against
1:39:38 this thank you uh council member
1:39:42 hunt thank you council president Walsh I
1:39:45 was on um the committee that did the
1:39:49 Deep dive with our awesome uh volunteer
1:39:52 um commission members and community
1:39:54 members and I had the opportunity to
1:39:57 focus on a couple areas because the way
1:40:00 we worked was we all had the opportunity
1:40:03 to go around to all of the areas but we
1:40:05 had detailed um focus time on specific
1:40:08 areas and one of the ones that I focused
1:40:10 on was
1:40:11 infrastructure um which we really didn't
1:40:15 have as much time in the 2019 update to
1:40:18 work on and so one of the uh one of the
1:40:21 really notable improvements I think this
1:40:22 time was
1:40:23 we added one objective but we also spent
1:40:27 a lot more time and also spent a lot
1:40:28 more time with the other um focus areas
1:40:32 kind of including it throughout the
1:40:33 entire process and considering it
1:40:35 throughout the entire process uh as as
1:40:39 part of that I really appreciated
1:40:41 council member Mart's earlier questions
1:40:42 about the sustainable projects um in the
1:40:47 infrastructure Focus area we have this
1:40:51 we have actions about minimizing carbon
1:40:53 impact we have actions about preserving
1:40:55 and enhancing the city's resilient water
1:40:58 supply and I think for for future policy
1:41:02 makers and for people looking at the
1:41:04 Strategic plan for guidance it would be
1:41:06 really helpful to kind of give more
1:41:08 information about what do we Me by
1:41:10 sustainable projects because we
1:41:12 encountered that when we we were trying
1:41:14 to think through in the infrastructure
1:41:16 section how do we make these how do we
1:41:18 make our infrastructure sustainable what
1:41:20 does that mean what are the actions
1:41:21 associated with that and we had staff
1:41:23 help and they uh they really supported
1:41:26 us in in devising these actions that we
1:41:28 have in the plan at the same time as we
1:41:31 grow as a city as we uh have more
1:41:34 capital projects as we look to new
1:41:37 facilities Etc having that guidance more
1:41:41 accessible to more community members can
1:41:42 only be better right um so I I
1:41:46 appreciate that um the other thing I
1:41:49 think was really important was the
1:41:51 fiveyear time Horizon and really
1:41:53 focusing on that that gave us a really
1:41:56 good uh framework to work within bounds
1:42:00 to consider which actions and now that
1:42:01 we've seen five years play out we have a
1:42:04 much better sense of these are the
1:42:05 things that are realistic these are the
1:42:07 things that are helpful for us also to
1:42:09 have on our on our fiveyear plan so I
1:42:13 think that was good my only other
1:42:16 comment and I leave it to you for how to
1:42:19 document this but we do throughout the
1:42:22 throughout this process we've had a
1:42:24 number of Lessons Learned due to things
1:42:26 that have happened over the last five
1:42:28 years including the co pandemic and then
1:42:30 the economic impacts of the co pandemic
1:42:32 and as part of that I think also really
1:42:35 recognizing the loneliness um that's
1:42:37 also in my mind a component of that as
1:42:40 well recognizing the importance of Human
1:42:42 Services um for our community when when
1:42:44 folks are experiencing economic hardship
1:42:47 that was
1:42:48 another another um important thing that
1:42:51 happens over the five years that we were
1:42:53 able to address with that hindsight in
1:42:56 this update and so I was thinking if
1:42:59 somebody new to the process comes and
1:43:01 and sees you know this stuff about the
1:43:02 loneliness epidemic for example they
1:43:04 might not have that context and so I
1:43:07 thought it might be helpful to explain
1:43:09 that it was something that came up also
1:43:12 in the context of Public Safety and that
1:43:14 emphasis there emergency
1:43:16 preparedness um you know those were all
1:43:18 Lessons Learned uh in large part through
1:43:21 that pandemic and those um and those
1:43:24 years after the pandemic and so I think
1:43:27 in in our process that was a big part of
1:43:30 it and I don't you don't see the word
1:43:33 covid anywhere and I think that's
1:43:35 appropriate but at the same time I think
1:43:37 for our documentation of the process and
1:43:39 for the next group that looks at the
1:43:41 next update and people looking to this
1:43:43 for guidance of why did we change
1:43:44 certain things I thought that um
1:43:47 documentation of that in our thought
1:43:48 process might be might be helpful uh
1:43:51 again this was a really really thorough
1:43:53 process we had so many Community Voices
1:43:56 I think this end product really reflects
1:43:58 all of those Community Voices and I'm
1:44:01 very uh will be very supportive of
1:44:03 adopting this when it comes
1:44:06 back any other comments council member
1:44:11 Joe thank you um I would just like to
1:44:14 thank uh council member hunt and um
1:44:17 council member Marts and council
1:44:19 president Walsh for signing up to help
1:44:22 with this process
1:44:23 you attended seven extra meetings over a
1:44:26 six-month period and and we're all very
1:44:29 busy and yet you found time to go that
1:44:31 extra mile and do those extra meetings
1:44:32 so thank you so much um I'd like to talk
1:44:35 a little bit about the uh the the
1:44:37 loneliness issue but as it relates to
1:44:39 City leadership and services um I I
1:44:44 really think you're doing a great job in
1:44:46 measuring our you know number of tree
1:44:49 Acres preserved and all the metrics that
1:44:51 you've done on on the website it's
1:44:53 fantastic work when we talk about Lead
1:44:56 City leadership and services you're
1:44:57 talking about how we reestablish
1:44:59 Connection in community and cultural uh
1:45:02 um awareness in our community and it's a
1:45:04 little bit bit more difficult to to
1:45:06 measure and to track right in terms of
1:45:09 you could have a certain number of
1:45:10 meetings that we we had that reached out
1:45:13 to the Asian-American Community or the
1:45:15 Hispanic Community but that really
1:45:17 doesn't tell the the depth of our
1:45:19 connection the way that we're actually
1:45:22 building community the way that City
1:45:23 leadership is actually connecting with
1:45:25 the community to know what they really
1:45:27 need um and I think that uh if as we
1:45:31 look at this particular section it's
1:45:34 going to be more difficult to measure
1:45:37 but we can feel it in our hearts and
1:45:39 souls so to speak when I'm making a
1:45:41 connection with people in in another
1:45:43 community that I may not have a a strong
1:45:46 connection or history with um I'm
1:45:48 feeling that in terms of my connection
1:45:51 to the community my buy into what we're
1:45:54 doing here in the city and my sense of
1:45:57 belonging um so I don't know how you can
1:46:00 track those things um but I think it's
1:46:02 so important after the pandemic and
1:46:04 after the um election that we had the
1:46:08 national people and the Senate and House
1:46:10 members on the national level can't come
1:46:13 to our door and talk to us but those of
1:46:15 us here on this Council can make an
1:46:18 effort to go to a number of doors and
1:46:20 talk to our peers and our neighbors face
1:46:22 to to face and we need to we need to
1:46:25 reestablish that connection and sense of
1:46:28 civics uh as we're going to be challenge
1:46:31 the community uh as we become more and
1:46:33 more kind of pushed apart along the way
1:46:36 so anything you can do to measure that
1:46:39 to give us a sense that um we're coming
1:46:42 closer together as a community or we're
1:46:44 going farther apart as a community so
1:46:46 that we on the council can as Leaders uh
1:46:49 step in or Pat ourselves on the back or
1:46:52 take addition measures will be will be
1:46:54 very helpful as we go forward so um I
1:46:56 know it's not a metric you can measure
1:46:58 but I hope it's something that you can
1:46:59 keep in mind it's definitely something
1:47:02 that we can look into especially um
1:47:04 we're just in the early stages of our
1:47:07 2025 banial Community survey um I think
1:47:11 we've we've asked questions that have
1:47:12 touched on that but not quite to the
1:47:14 heart of what you're saying and so
1:47:16 something to consider as we uh explore
1:47:18 that upcoming
1:47:21 opportunity any other
1:47:23 comments okay I will take my turn um
1:47:28 I've got a few specific comments um in
1:47:30 the growth and development area oh okay
1:47:33 before I dive into the
1:47:35 details I I'm just going to start by
1:47:38 saying I like council member Hall said
1:47:40 I'm just thrilled with this update uh I
1:47:43 think this takes us absolutely forward
1:47:46 um it's a gargantuan
1:47:48 effort and really thinking back into the
1:47:50 Strategic plan task force
1:47:53 the difference that they made in six or
1:47:56 seven meetings whereas the original plan
1:47:58 took 18 months is just huge um and so I
1:48:04 really feel like this update just feels
1:48:06 very very focused and helpful and I
1:48:09 appreciate all of your help in just
1:48:13 continually pushing it to be useful um
1:48:17 that's very helpful um I heard what
1:48:22 council member hunt said about kind of
1:48:24 documenting things I think it sounds
1:48:26 like that would be much like we do with
1:48:28 a um budget Council letter or something
1:48:32 I I think that concept of recognizing
1:48:35 what are the changes and the differences
1:48:37 between when the plan was adopted
1:48:39 previously and now and really talking
1:48:41 through the process would be great not
1:48:43 only because of what has happened in the
1:48:47 world but the way that you brought us
1:48:50 through that update task force was
1:48:53 really helpful and I I would love to
1:48:55 document that so that would be great
1:48:59 um few specific comments in the growth
1:49:02 and development area the opportunity
1:49:05 section the third sentence reads in the
1:49:08 face of this growth isqua has chosen to
1:49:10 direct development to the valley floor
1:49:13 to protect existing neighborhoods and
1:49:15 our forested hillsides and plan for
1:49:18 growth around a future light rail
1:49:20 station I agree with all of that except
1:49:22 except for the protecting existing
1:49:24 neighborhoods I think we specifically
1:49:27 mentioned in the first objective that
1:49:31 neighborhoods will be will neighborhoods
1:49:34 continue to be known for their unique
1:49:35 aesthetic experience reflected in both
1:49:37 the built environment and natural
1:49:39 surroundings while responsibly
1:49:41 accommodating additional housing and
1:49:43 services throughout the city so rather
1:49:46 than disagree with ourselves between the
1:49:48 objective I just think it's really
1:49:50 important for us to recognize that
1:49:53 neighborhoods throughout time have been
1:49:55 meant to change and adjust and grow to
1:50:00 provide the services that communities
1:50:02 need so I would specifically like to
1:50:05 remove that part about protecting
1:50:07 existing
1:50:08 neighborhoods um and then growth and
1:50:10 development I think it's gd3 though
1:50:13 looking over the draft it doesn't have
1:50:15 the numbers on it um the one related to
1:50:19 infrastructure um at least in your draft
1:50:22 here the success measure there is total
1:50:24 housing units by type I think that might
1:50:28 typo um because that doesn't seem to be
1:50:32 related to that um and it doesn't relate
1:50:37 to the success measures that were in the
1:50:41 original
1:50:43 plan so the um objective is
1:50:46 infrastructure is planned in
1:50:48 anticipation of future growth leveraging
1:50:50 development and incorporating innovative
1:50:52 sustainable and resilient design
1:50:55 obviously that is supposed to be
1:50:57 responsive to housing units but I would
1:51:01 think that the success measures would
1:51:03 be based
1:51:07 infrastructure um and how we address
1:51:10 that so I'd like to just have you check
1:51:12 into that and see if that was meant or
1:51:16 otherwise um and then council member
1:51:19 Marts mentioned the ES1 phrasing and I
1:51:24 have to agree I I think the concept and
1:51:28 the way that you explained it verbally
1:51:30 helped me understand what is meant by
1:51:33 that but I think either by talking about
1:51:37 it as a sustainability lens or something
1:51:40 with that adopts sustainability
1:51:42 practices across
1:51:44 departments and creating a less
1:51:48 centralized you know Focus around
1:51:51 sustainability I think that would help
1:51:53 help create the concept that you're
1:51:56 doing more than saying
1:51:58 sustainable program and project
1:52:00 management so um I would just like us to
1:52:03 look at rewarding that and then what
1:52:07 council member Hall and council member
1:52:08 Joe said about the uh lonliness epidemic
1:52:12 I'd love to see how we can specifically
1:52:15 mention that um because I think that
1:52:18 does speak to the moment in time that we
1:52:21 are in
1:52:23 um so generally I just think this is
1:52:26 fantastic I think there's just a few
1:52:28 tweaks but gosh the difference between
1:52:31 what we even saw in July when it had
1:52:35 already gone through a bunch of work um
1:52:38 and then to streamline down to this I
1:52:40 think it's fantastic council member
1:52:42 Mars I I just want to build a little bit
1:52:45 about on what you were talking about in
1:52:46 terms of sustainability and I'm I'm
1:52:48 going to I'm going to play the Oldtimer
1:52:50 card here for a second and say that when
1:52:52 I started on Council uh we had every
1:52:58 bill that came forward we had a how is
1:53:02 this sustainable and what is the
1:53:04 sustainability aspect to this and we
1:53:06 divided it into three areas right
1:53:08 economic sustainability social
1:53:10 sustainability and environmental
1:53:12 sustainability and so I don't I don't
1:53:16 suggest we go back to that but I suggest
1:53:18 we we talked to some of the old-timers
1:53:21 who are around because we don't do that
1:53:23 anymore right and there's some reason
1:53:25 why we don't do it anymore so what when
1:53:28 I hear about this I hear some you know
1:53:30 if there's we have applied the
1:53:32 sustainability lens to everything in the
1:53:35 past what worked and what didn't what
1:53:37 did we learn from that and how can that
1:53:39 inform
1:53:42 this excellent okay any other feedback
1:53:46 for the
1:53:48 administration council member hunt uh I
1:53:51 will plus one the um aligning with our
1:53:55 actions on removing the protection
1:53:57 because we actually specifically are
1:53:59 removing that item because we wanted to
1:54:03 uh enhance Aesthetics and make sure that
1:54:05 we're also welcoming growth so I wanted
1:54:07 to plus one
1:54:10 that excellent okay just a little bit of
1:54:14 feedback for you but moving forward do
1:54:16 you have everything you need I do thank
1:54:18 you very much excited to be back in
1:54:20 December indeed
1:54:24 okay item two out of three do we want to
1:54:27 take a five minute break I'm seeing a
1:54:30 few nods for five minute break during
1:54:32 setup so chance we'll just take a little
1:54:36 five minute recess and we will be back
1:54:39 at 8:30
2:01:34 okay are we
2:01:36 unmuted okay Chance looking I guess
2:01:39 Flash the light when you're ready to
2:01:41 take us
2:01:43 back great okay we are back from recess
2:01:46 and so we are going in for our final um
2:01:51 agenda item com
2:01:53 0039 the 2025 2026 budget deliberations
2:01:57 presented by Andrea Snyder the deputy
2:01:59 City administrator interim
2:02:02 CFO person with all the titles at the
2:02:04 city take it
2:02:06 away thank you council president uh
2:02:09 tonight we have a discussion on our
2:02:12 budget deliberations this is really a
2:02:14 follow-up to our meeting last week and
2:02:16 some of the questions and issues raised
2:02:18 Council um so tonight our uh Direction
2:02:23 needed is really focused around just
2:02:25 four items the first is Metroflex so
2:02:29 tonight we are presenting on our
2:02:30 proposal uh for changes to the the
2:02:33 proposed budget the first one of those
2:02:35 is to fund Metroflex for the remainder
2:02:38 of our contract through uh really
2:02:41 2025 we would do that with funds from
2:02:45 the street operating fund balance of
2:02:49 50,000 from the fleet fund and 50,000
2:02:51 from the general fund fund uh otherwise
2:02:53 make no changes to the fleet fund
2:02:57 levels and we're going to be providing a
2:02:59 lot more information on the fleet fund
2:03:01 there seem to be a lot of questions
2:03:02 about Fleet and how the city manages our
2:03:04 Fleet so we'll be providing a lot more
2:03:06 information about that this
2:03:08 evening another uh direction that we
2:03:11 seek from Council tonight is on the
2:03:14 light rail study we heard some concerns
2:03:16 and questions over light rails so we've
2:03:18 come back with a reduced scope um we
2:03:22 the original request for 400,000 so what
2:03:24 we're proposing is to fund It On A
2:03:26 reduced level for 200,000 and we'll talk
2:03:29 through what we believe we can
2:03:30 accomplish with that level of funding
2:03:33 and then also uh we've heard a lot of
2:03:35 comments about the Downtown isqua
2:03:37 Association this evening and I know
2:03:39 Council has received comments over email
2:03:41 about the Downtown isqua Association so
2:03:43 we are proposing to fund Dia
2:03:47 $93,900 in 2025 and
2:03:50 68,000
2:03:52 $232 in 2026 and we'll talk a little
2:03:55 more specifics about that funding
2:03:57 proposal and then um also the final
2:04:01 direction that we seek is uh whether
2:04:03 Council feels comfortable in adopting
2:04:06 the budget on December second instead of
2:04:08 what we've been discussing on December
2:04:10 9th and um if there's concerns and
2:04:13 desire for more budget uh conversations
2:04:15 and deliberations we can certainly U
2:04:19 have that uh time anticipate on December
2:04:21 9th but if there's not a lot of concerns
2:04:23 raised by Council then perhaps we can
2:04:26 adopt it on December
2:04:28 2nd so first I want to take a bit of a
2:04:31 step back and talk about what we've the
2:04:34 process of getting us here today so we
2:04:37 had our August forecast we discussed a
2:04:39 little bit about that forecast at the
2:04:40 city council Retreat back in July um we
2:04:45 uh and every step of the way we find out
2:04:47 more information we provide more
2:04:49 information we go into more detail we
2:04:51 had the prelim budget which is really
2:04:52 just a budget on a page very general
2:04:55 proposed budget and every step along the
2:04:57 way there are some changes that occur so
2:04:59 we're in this space between the proposed
2:05:01 budget and the adopted budget I bring
2:05:03 this up because um as we have looked at
2:05:05 the proposed budget we have a few
2:05:07 corrections to make Corrections are
2:05:09 really common some of these Corrections
2:05:11 happen through this deliberations
2:05:13 process with Council saying we want you
2:05:14 to make the a couple of adjustments to
2:05:16 the budget and some changes other
2:05:18 Corrections we find along the way as um
2:05:21 we look and make sure that the budget
2:05:24 document reflects what's in our
2:05:25 budgeting software for example um so we
2:05:28 find some corrections along the way that
2:05:29 happens with every budget process this
2:05:31 year is no different some of the
2:05:34 corrections that we've already found and
2:05:36 would like to put into the adopted
2:05:37 budget include uh epsa if you recall the
2:05:41 city was part of a partnership for um uh
2:05:44 Police radios and emergency radios that
2:05:47 partnership has dissolved we're going to
2:05:49 get some of that capital investment back
2:05:51 we hadn't known about the timing of that
2:05:54 until after the proposed budget was
2:05:56 published so we're going to like to put
2:05:58 that into the corrected uh adopted draft
2:06:02 of the budget also uh we calculated
2:06:06 utility tax for utility tax proposal but
2:06:08 we left out Sam plats uh water customers
2:06:11 as part of that so want to add that back
2:06:13 into the budget so those are just some
2:06:15 examples of the types of Corrections
2:06:17 that we found since the proposed budget
2:06:20 was published we also have some expenses
2:06:23 for example street sweeping of we are
2:06:26 pushing all of the street sweeping
2:06:28 street sweeping expenses to the storm
2:06:30 water fund instead of general fund and
2:06:32 the reasons for that is that our storm
2:06:34 water
2:06:36 um uh license essentially from the state
2:06:41 really requires much more street
2:06:43 sweeping to occur um because of the
2:06:46 storm water utility and considers our
2:06:48 streets and roadways as part of the
2:06:49 storm water utility so because of those
2:06:52 storm water regulations from the state
2:06:54 um street sweeping has really become an
2:06:56 integral part of that storm water
2:06:58 maintenance activity so we should assign
2:07:02 those to the storm water fund um there's
2:07:04 also some passrs that we had forgotten
2:07:06 Revenue that maybe we're not really
2:07:08 collecting but just kind of pass through
2:07:10 the city so these are just examples of
2:07:13 some of the the types of Corrections
2:07:15 that we found that would will be in the
2:07:18 draft for the adopted budget um and I'm
2:07:21 bringing these up now because some of
2:07:24 these
2:07:25 Corrections help provide funding for the
2:07:28 proposed additions that we're going to
2:07:30 be discussing in the rest of the
2:07:31 presentation so we've been talking about
2:07:33 our budget is really tight we've been
2:07:35 making lots and lots of reductions um
2:07:37 but because of these Corrections we have
2:07:39 been able to propose additional funding
2:07:42 to some of these categories tonight so I
2:07:46 wanted to make sure to bring those up um
2:07:49 quickly before we get into uh the bigger
2:07:52 proposals so as I said the
2:07:54 administration is proposing funding
2:07:56 Metroflex that's
2:07:58 $262,000 for the year of
2:08:00 2025 that would fulfill our contract in
2:08:03 the meanwhile we would continue to
2:08:04 search for other funding sources we
2:08:06 mentioned a grant that we' applied for
2:08:09 um and maybe there's other Partnerships
2:08:11 that we need to examine as
2:08:13 well so
2:08:15 $50,000 of this funding would come from
2:08:17 the general fund $50,000 would come from
2:08:20 the fleet fund and then the remaining
2:08:22 from the street operating fund balance
2:08:25 the impacts of this as we think about um
2:08:27 are pretty minimal to the fleet fund and
2:08:29 general fund because again some of those
2:08:31 Corrections that I just discussed the
2:08:34 $162,000 from the street operating um
2:08:37 fund balance we don't anticipate to
2:08:39 affect our street operations activities
2:08:43 um unless there are major storm events
2:08:46 that's what we usually like to have that
2:08:48 fund balance for a healthy fund balance
2:08:50 for that fund um in case there's extra
2:08:52 snow that we hadn't anticipated Etc so
2:08:55 if we get to that um if that does occur
2:08:58 in the next bium then what we would do
2:09:00 is we would uh look at general fund um
2:09:05 to help supplement and provide for that
2:09:07 emergency type
2:09:12 response and uh at this point I'd like
2:09:15 to welcome AUM manahan admin Services
2:09:17 administrative Services director up to
2:09:20 give a lot more information about the
2:09:21 fleet
2:09:25 fund thank you again my name is Autumn
2:09:27 manahan administrative Services director
2:09:29 in my department includes Fleet um as
2:09:32 mayor paully mentioned last week at your
2:09:35 last meeting um we we have significant
2:09:37 deferred maintenance needs at the city
2:09:40 both in facilities which I've been
2:09:41 talking about now for a while and in
2:09:43 Fleet uh that we're really working to
2:09:45 address in this proposed budget so
2:09:47 really we're trying to play some
2:09:49 catchup um we're really thankful to have
2:09:52 some outside sources as consultant help
2:09:54 and we had their facility study we also
2:09:56 had a fleet study that was that was done
2:09:58 by matrix Consulting Group back in 2023
2:10:01 that help us assess the challenges and
2:10:03 then create plans moving
2:10:04 forward um so Matrix um fulfilled its
2:10:09 study in 2023 and came back with a
2:10:11 series of recommendations which we're
2:10:13 working on um as a start we have um
2:10:16 started purchasing some electric
2:10:18 vehicles uh installing charging stations
2:10:21 uh working really hard on improving
2:10:23 customer service with departments and
2:10:25 having more connections with our
2:10:26 customers creating some more internal
2:10:28 policies that help then provide SM
2:10:30 structure around our program and then
2:10:32 upgrades to our software which helps us
2:10:34 in making more data um driven
2:10:36 decision-making when it comes to
2:10:39 Fleet uh as I mentioned last week the
2:10:41 study also found that about a half of
2:10:42 our motorized Fleet in 2023 was older
2:10:46 than its recommended life
2:10:48 cycle so we're here now with budget
2:10:50 requests to really start addressing
2:10:51 those
2:10:55 deficiencies so um I sh I shared a chart
2:10:58 last week that showed a couple different
2:11:00 you know options for addressing
2:11:02 replacement vehicles um the goal is a
2:11:05 leveled replacement plan right one that
2:11:06 we don't have a lot of Peaks and valleys
2:11:09 uh in budgets year over to year um for
2:11:12 Replacements uh and that's what the
2:11:13 study recommends that said we have
2:11:15 significant investment needs now in
2:11:17 Fleet and that's due to many factors and
2:11:20 so here's a few
2:11:22 uh the first is many expensive vehicles
2:11:23 are all up at the same time to be uh
2:11:26 replaced um and that have further age
2:11:28 since 2023 uh and and really do need
2:11:32 some attention um in addition there's an
2:11:34 increased focus on infrastructure
2:11:36 maintenance now at the city we're also
2:11:38 doing a lot more specialized work that
2:11:39 requires certain types of equipment
2:11:42 supply challenges in the past several
2:11:43 years have been very very challenging as
2:11:45 far as even being able to purchase
2:11:47 vehicles and equipment so we have a
2:11:49 backlog as we're working toward actually
2:11:50 making those
2:11:51 purchases uh police patrol vehicles are
2:11:54 um more likely now used as take-home
2:11:57 Vehicles as part of a a pilot program
2:12:00 that shortens the life cycle of our
2:12:02 Patrol Vehicles significantly and so
2:12:04 that's also
2:12:05 changed um there are newer models for
2:12:08 several types of vehicles and equipment
2:12:09 that would provide substantial
2:12:11 efficiencies and safety enhancements for
2:12:13 our field staff and then finally um
2:12:16 further investment in EVS can increase
2:12:18 upfront costs
2:12:22 um so in your packet Autumn before you
2:12:24 move on we've got a question council
2:12:26 member
2:12:27 MZ why does taking the vehicles home
2:12:29 substantially reduce their life
2:12:32 cycle because often times police offic
2:12:35 vehicles are being used 247 so whether
2:12:38 they're used to be taken home or they're
2:12:40 being used in the field they're
2:12:41 constantly running so we don't have we
2:12:43 didn't add an extra you know several
2:12:46 vehicles that were just for take-home
2:12:48 the patrol vehicles that are being used
2:12:49 are also being used for take-home if
2:12:50 that makes sense no okay I'm sorry
2:12:54 because they're they're getting before
2:12:57 right they were getting driven a certain
2:12:59 amount per day but a lot right because
2:13:01 they're they're going out of Patrol then
2:13:03 you're just adding the the commute time
2:13:05 to and from but aren't they getting
2:13:07 driven like four or six hours or eight
2:13:09 hours a day um as as part of Patrol and
2:13:13 then the amount that that gets added to
2:13:15 that to just drive it home seems a small
2:13:17 addition compared to the
2:13:19 amount part of their
2:13:22 operational it it does add a significant
2:13:24 amount of mileage just depending on
2:13:25 where our police officers live a lot of
2:13:27 them don't live locally um and so there
2:13:31 is significant of mge in just driving to
2:13:35 from and if you would have anything to
2:13:37 add Kelly on
2:13:40 that this is Kelly kusman our fleet
2:13:44 manager good evening again Kelly cusman
2:13:47 fleet manager we don't have specific uh
2:13:50 data on exactly where the vehicles are
2:13:52 going home to um but initial data or
2:13:55 collection when we started looking at
2:13:57 pilot
2:13:58 program suggested that we patrolled
2:14:01 about 25 miles a day U when they
2:14:04 districted uh the city a little bit that
2:14:07 that mileage shrunk on those vehicles
2:14:09 and then we're looking at somewhere
2:14:12 about that same amount of mileage each
2:14:13 way for transportation alone so we kind
2:14:17 of went from about a six-year
2:14:19 replacement cycle to about a four
2:14:22 okay thank you thank
2:14:27 you think it's really indicative of
2:14:29 where our police officers live too and
2:14:31 seeing
2:14:34 that uh so in your packet is the full
2:14:36 list of the proposed vehicles for the um
2:14:39 the budget I pulled out a few just as
2:14:41 some examples not having to go through
2:14:43 the full list tonight but to show you
2:14:45 just some of the needs that um that are
2:14:48 included in the budget so to start off
2:14:50 some EX extremely old generators from
2:14:52 1972 and 1983 that have low electrical
2:14:56 capacity a flatbed truck from 1986 in
2:14:59 the streets division that has some
2:15:00 worsening mechanical condition and
2:15:03 limited parts availability just due to
2:15:04 its age a one ton duck truck in Parks
2:15:08 operations from
2:15:09 1992 a backhole loader from 2008 in the
2:15:12 Water Division that's showing some
2:15:14 Extreme Wear a jet vac heavy duty truck
2:15:16 with worsening mechanical issues from
2:15:19 2009 a Transit bus used by the senior
2:15:21 center from 2010 that is not Ada
2:15:24 accessible uh is hindering some just
2:15:27 operations there and then as mentioned
2:15:30 uh Patrol vehicles used for the
2:15:31 take-home program aged in 2019 and 2022
2:15:34 would already be up for replacement in
2:15:36 this proposed
2:15:39 budget with that I'm here to answer any
2:15:42 questions
2:15:43 on council member hunt thank you um my
2:15:48 understanding is that there are some
2:15:49 cities that have a police Patrol
2:15:51 take-home program where they're using a
2:15:53 different vehicle to take home than the
2:15:55 police vehicle police vehicles have a
2:15:56 lot of uh special equipment and are um
2:16:01 are uh more expensive than a lot of
2:16:03 other vehicles uh and so I wondered if
2:16:05 that was considered in the budget and um
2:16:09 if we could see the results of that
2:16:12 consideration City
2:16:15 administrator council member hunt thank
2:16:17 you for the question because I just got
2:16:19 a text from Stephanie Johnson our HR
2:16:22 director which address directly
2:16:24 addresses your question and Stephanie
2:16:26 writes uh remind us that in order to be
2:16:29 eligible for take-home program employees
2:16:31 must live within a straight line
2:16:33 distance of 50 mi from the city if the
2:16:35 employee lives outside of this boundary
2:16:37 he or she must Park the take-home
2:16:39 vehicle at a secure location such as a
2:16:41 police or fire station within a straight
2:16:43 line distance of 50 miles from the city
2:16:46 so that is our version of that at a 50
2:16:48 mile p
2:16:52 um thank you for that I I do think that
2:16:55 my question so I I believe there are
2:16:56 some cities where they have a whole
2:16:58 different car it's not a police vehicle
2:17:00 that they get into the separate car they
2:17:02 take that home to and from work and so
2:17:05 that would be more my question um
2:17:07 because we're seeing the the two years
2:17:09 you know we're seeing more um wear on
2:17:13 the vehicles as a result of this program
2:17:15 and reducing those versus if it were a
2:17:17 different car that was um less expensive
2:17:20 and I and I have heard from other cities
2:17:22 that they they still allow their um
2:17:24 officers this benefit taking home the
2:17:27 cars but it's not the police patrol cars
2:17:29 but thank you for the additional
2:17:30 information about the the distance and
2:17:33 and we've had those discussions as well
2:17:35 um we don't have a police chief with us
2:17:37 this evening uh but in discussions with
2:17:40 with Chief Schwan um she believes there
2:17:43 is a value to them having that police
2:17:45 vehicle for emergency response um you
2:17:48 know the idea that if everyone has a
2:17:50 police vehicle and there is an emergency
2:17:52 uh we then have the value of police
2:17:54 officers who live near us who may work
2:17:56 from other jurisdictions and vice versa
2:17:58 so um we have explored the idea of a
2:18:02 take-home
2:18:04 sedan let Autumn fill in any blanks from
2:18:07 that but uh but certainly we have had
2:18:09 those discussions and I think the the
2:18:11 value the chief Swan feels and other
2:18:13 police Chiefs feel that in the case of
2:18:15 an emergency then those officers have an
2:18:18 additional uh uh flexibility and and
2:18:21 ability to support wherever they may
2:18:22 happen to that's good for the reg and
2:18:26 whether they're marked cars or not for
2:18:27 take-home um that would require just
2:18:30 funding and the budget that we're
2:18:32 proposing is is really focused on
2:18:35 replacement of existing at the moment
2:18:37 along with all the additions are really
2:18:39 funded by utility funds but there's no
2:18:41 new vehicles that really can be afforded
2:18:43 by the general fund in adding on to our
2:18:45 Fleet at this point
2:18:51 okay any other questions coming up on
2:18:54 fleet right
2:18:57 now um I know there was a question
2:19:01 related that a Community member had um
2:19:04 mentioned related to pervious surface
2:19:08 and a vehicle in the fleet plan that was
2:19:12 like $3.5 million uh related to prvious
2:19:15 surface cleaning um I'm not sure if that
2:19:18 I don't think that's in this 2025 2026
2:19:23 so maybe that's just something that you
2:19:25 can get back to us with information on
2:19:28 sure that would be great um and then the
2:19:30 other question I would have the transit
2:19:32 bus for the senior center I know the
2:19:34 county has a lot of programs with um
2:19:38 vans that um potentially could be
2:19:42 available have we looked into any
2:19:44 opportunities like that that could
2:19:47 potentially serve our needs I do know
2:19:49 our parks and community service
2:19:51 department has been active in seeking
2:19:54 those grants and I know they have been
2:19:56 watching I don't have any updates at the
2:19:57 moment if there's any availability but
2:19:59 we can look into that for sure or even
2:20:01 the King County vans that they have um
2:20:04 that they give away after they're done
2:20:06 using them and I think the challenge
2:20:08 anytime a agency's giving away a vehicle
2:20:10 that they deem no longer fills their
2:20:12 needs then there's often additional
2:20:14 maintenance costs to come along that so
2:20:17 again I think we try to be uh as smart
2:20:20 as this you know things that are free
2:20:21 rarely are
2:20:23 free I just want to be smart with u a
2:20:26 $28,000 purchase of a Transit bus so as
2:20:31 well um any other questions on
2:20:34 fleet okay thank you
2:20:42 autum other proposed changes
2:20:46 uh include funding the light rail study
2:20:50 so we be partial funding of the light
2:20:51 rail study as you recall the original
2:20:54 request was for
2:20:55 $400,000 and instead we're proposing A
2:20:58 reduced scope that reduced scope would
2:21:01 um the main deliverable would be to
2:21:05 develop locally preferred station
2:21:07 locations and Alignment options to
2:21:10 inform and streamline the planning for
2:21:11 Sound Transit so we'd be able to use a
2:21:14 consultant team to help us with that for
2:21:15 the 200,000 we take a lot more of the
2:21:18 work inhouse under this proposal so that
2:21:20 means that isqua staff would lead on the
2:21:23 public engagement and evaluation
2:21:26 activities to reduce um project costs as
2:21:29 well um it does delay in identifying and
2:21:34 updating the municipal code or zoning as
2:21:37 needed that was an analysis that we'd
2:21:39 have to take out at this time and
2:21:41 postpone uh for future
2:21:45 years and finally I'm sorry was there a
2:21:48 question
2:21:50 thank you uh council member Hall um
2:21:52 quick one around the light rail study
2:21:54 thank you um if I I don't actually
2:21:57 remember this being a huge priority in
2:22:00 our discussion last week in fact I think
2:22:01 there were a couple of us that even said
2:22:03 waiting might be might be a good thing
2:22:06 so I guess I'm I'm curious what the
2:22:08 administration's thinking was here
2:22:09 because I I suppose this so this is all
2:22:11 general fund a new new general fund
2:22:13 Revenue that we've identified this also
2:22:16 could have been used for other
2:22:16 priorities like Metroflex right so I'm
2:22:18 wondering if you could just kind of walk
2:22:19 us through
2:22:21 um your thinking and coming U refunding
2:22:24 this light rail study thank you I I see
2:22:27 City administrator Bob quitz has some
2:22:29 comments well I think uh the
2:22:31 administration reacted to your
2:22:33 conversation and I think that there was
2:22:34 a concern um as we were listening to the
2:22:37 council uh that that momentum is really
2:22:40 important and that to go for a year
2:22:44 without doing anything um was not
2:22:47 something we felt comfortable with after
2:22:48 the discussions that the council has so
2:22:50 we went back back to Minnie Dolly wall
2:22:52 our community planning and development
2:22:53 director and said what might be
2:22:55 something that's less that would keep
2:22:57 that momentum going continue uh to have
2:23:00 this issue not only before the public
2:23:02 but also I think what came out to me
2:23:04 from the council's discussion was Sound
2:23:06 Transit that you know we need to
2:23:08 continue to keep this in front of Sound
2:23:09 Transit as well as continue to have
2:23:11 dialogue with the community um Minnie is
2:23:14 on the line and I'll ask if she has
2:23:16 anything she wants to add because this
2:23:18 is really her recommendation back back
2:23:20 to the mayor uh to put that in so yes I
2:23:23 agreed that the council uh was kind of
2:23:26 veering from um you know further uh
2:23:29 support for something like this but it
2:23:30 really was from the issues that the
2:23:32 council raised that we went back and
2:23:34 said is there anything we can do and and
2:23:37 Minnie was able to come up with that
2:23:39 Minnie uh good morning uh to you in in
2:23:42 New Delhi and uh you care to add
2:23:45 anything uh sure no good evening council
2:23:48 members um that's exactly what it is you
2:23:50 know we went back and looked at the
2:23:52 light raail planning guide and the
2:23:55 experiences of other cities that have
2:23:57 had success with um being good partners
2:24:01 with Sound Transit if we have all our uh
2:24:04 information ahead of it otherwise we we
2:24:06 tend to react to something that's on
2:24:09 Transit as selected so um so that's
2:24:12 primarily I think I think we heard
2:24:14 Council raised uh Mor Island example
2:24:16 where it wasn't well well done we've
2:24:18 looked at Redmond's example where it was
2:24:21 or Kirkland's example so looking and and
2:24:24 other local cities experience of doing
2:24:27 this work earlier and puts isqua in a
2:24:30 good position where we don't have to um
2:24:33 react to something that's s Transit
2:24:35 proposes and then there's a uh you know
2:24:38 issue with the um community's desires
2:24:40 for the for the plus I think the biggest
2:24:43 other uh factor is coordination with the
2:24:46 over Crossing and
2:24:48 undercrossing uh work that is going to
2:24:50 to occur so our recommendation is at
2:24:53 least this puts the esqua in a better
2:24:55 position to have a locally preferred
2:24:57 station ahead of sound transits work
2:25:00 which will kick off in
2:25:03 2026 okay thank you y uh council member
2:25:08 or Deputy council president D Michelle
2:25:10 uh is it appropriate for me to comment
2:25:12 on this or should I wait for yeah just
2:25:13 questions
2:25:15 okay okay go ahead
2:25:20 and the last of the proposed changes we
2:25:22 have for you this evening is to fund
2:25:24 Downtown isqua
2:25:26 Association uh this proposal includes a
2:25:28 12% reduction to the uh City's
2:25:32 contribution out of the general fund um
2:25:35 which would mean in uh 2025
2:25:40 26,400 and in 2026
2:25:46 200 um we would also propose a reduction
2:25:50 in funds contributed through the Main
2:25:51 Street tax credit incentive
2:25:54 program from the 2024 level of $90,000
2:25:58 to um
2:26:01 67,500 in 2025 and 45,000 in
2:26:05 2026 before the city would offer this
2:26:08 funding we uh the administration
2:26:11 proposes to confirm with the Main Street
2:26:13 Association about Dia's eligibility for
2:26:15 the tax credit funds U before entering
2:26:18 into a memorandum of understanding in
2:26:20 for the tax credit funds and uh the
2:26:23 general fund
2:26:27 support and next I'd like to talk about
2:26:30 timing and next steps so here we are in
2:26:32 the budget uh timeline November 18th
2:26:35 with budget
2:26:36 deliberations next week we'll be coming
2:26:38 back to with uh property tax adoption
2:26:42 and we'll be discussing revenues at that
2:26:44 meeting and then looking for the final
2:26:47 budget hearing to happen on December 2nd
2:26:49 if Council is comfortable then um we
2:26:52 would propose to adopt the budget after
2:26:56 the final budget hearing if Council
2:26:58 feels like you still need more uh time
2:27:01 to deliberate you have more questions
2:27:03 more concerns with the proposed budget
2:27:06 then we have December 3rd and uh final
2:27:09 adoption could happen on December
2:27:12 9th so again the direction that we seek
2:27:15 from you tonight is whether or not you
2:27:17 agree with the administration's
2:27:18 proposals to fund
2:27:20 Metroflex make no other changes to the
2:27:23 fleet fund levels fund the light rail
2:27:25 study with a reduced scope fund Dia uh
2:27:29 and also whether we should plan to adopt
2:27:32 the budget on December 2nd or December
2:27:36 9th thank you okay looking for any
2:27:39 questions at this point uh council
2:27:41 member
2:27:42 hunt at the last meeting there was
2:27:45 mentioned that the remainder of the
2:27:47 contract I think for Metroflex got us
2:27:50 through partway through
2:27:52 2025 um so when you in in the proposed
2:27:57 budget though we're funding the full
2:27:58 year of 2025 including the remainder of
2:28:00 the contract plus the rest of 2025 or is
2:28:02 it really only those couple months that
2:28:05 we're that we have to pay because we are
2:28:07 in an existing contract is this
2:28:09 extending beyond what we're required to
2:28:11 do by a contract or just that and so is
2:28:14 it a full year or is it it's just
2:28:16 fulfilling the contract I believe it is
2:28:19 a full year but I'm going to ask Emily
2:28:21 Moon who I believe is on the line if she
2:28:23 can confirm it's for the full year
2:28:27 um but I believe it's really just that's
2:28:31 the intention is is through the the
2:28:33 remainder of the contract and I'll just
2:28:35 reference my comments from the other
2:28:38 night was referencing the fact that we
2:28:39 would have to have the 180 day um
2:28:42 announcement period and so we were on
2:28:45 the hook because we haven't been able to
2:28:47 make that through the end of May or June
2:28:50 whatever that was and so that wasn't the
2:28:53 end of the contract that was just the
2:28:55 earliest we could get out of the
2:28:57 contract so our commitment with this
2:29:00 amendment change to the proposed budget
2:29:02 is to continue the contract in addition
2:29:05 uh we also need to sort through next
2:29:07 steps beyond that and so uh we'll commit
2:29:10 at least orally this evening uh that we
2:29:13 will do that and come back to the
2:29:14 council uh probably uh maybe second
2:29:17 quarter next year to say okay okay the
2:29:21 contract the Pilot's coming to an end
2:29:22 we've continued to talk with uh K County
2:29:25 Transit this is what it's going to take
2:29:27 to continue it moving forward we also
2:29:28 may know about the grants at that point
2:29:31 if the grant frees up these dollars then
2:29:33 that may be money available for the
2:29:34 second year of the bium uh to continue
2:29:37 this Beyond this but what we're
2:29:38 proposing this evening is to fund this
2:29:41 through the the pilot and I see the
2:29:43 Public Work Director
2:29:46 on that not
2:29:48 H oh okay came up under Andrew there's
2:29:51 uh and I would just ask director Moon if
2:29:54 I misspoke to correct me otherwise I
2:29:56 believe that's where we're
2:29:59 at evening yes the contract runs until
2:30:02 the end of December 2025 so this funny
2:30:06 would take us to the end of the
2:30:09 contract thank
2:30:11 you okay uh council member
2:30:15 Hall council member Hull
2:30:18 sorry um
2:30:23 um a few so a couple just um other
2:30:27 questions um based on kind of the Q&A at
2:30:29 the end of the packet so um thank you to
2:30:33 whomever wrote the lengthy response on
2:30:35 the CPD active Transportation um study I
2:30:39 I appreciate it I just had no clue what
2:30:40 it was and wanted some more information
2:30:42 seems like significant and important
2:30:44 work um that needs to be done and we're
2:30:46 so I think if I read it right we're
2:30:48 relying on hopefully getting this grant
2:30:50 to be able to fund that so I was just
2:30:51 wondering and this doesn't have to be a
2:30:53 now answer either but what what's our
2:30:56 plan because it seems so significant in
2:30:58 terms of something we need to do in the
2:31:00 near term what what's our plan if we
2:31:01 don't get the grant would it be to
2:31:03 continue to look for more grant
2:31:05 opportunities or would we try to find
2:31:07 cost savings and look within or do we
2:31:09 not see it as a near-term
2:31:12 priority we would continue to look for
2:31:14 grant opportunities uh and see how those
2:31:17 grant opportunities may change over time
2:31:21 um we have seen more grants for active
2:31:24 Transportation Planning uh in the recent
2:31:27 years and so that's something we're
2:31:29 still hopeful that we can achieve grant
2:31:31 funding for if we cannot find grant
2:31:33 funding then uh we would look to Future
2:31:38 years for funding that
2:31:40 work okay thank you appreciate the
2:31:42 clarification and then two more points
2:31:44 of clarification so I submitted a
2:31:47 question about kind of a future
2:31:48 conversation I'd like us to have about
2:31:50 um Public Safety revenues um knowing if
2:31:55 we were to actually do something in the
2:31:56 future we would account for those
2:31:58 revenues through a budget amendment but
2:32:00 is there any reason why we would need to
2:32:02 budget anything for like staff time or
2:32:05 Community engagement for having the
2:32:07 conversation in the first
2:32:10 place um we don't we don't believe that
2:32:13 such cost would be really significant um
2:32:15 if any to budget for we would be using
2:32:18 existing staff uh resources to be able
2:32:21 to have those conversations before
2:32:23 action is taken and the same could be S
2:32:26 then around this conversation we want to
2:32:28 have for East Side Fire and Rescue
2:32:29 around the fire permit fees then we
2:32:31 probably have capacity and
2:32:33 existing space to have those
2:32:35 conversations without budgeting any I I
2:32:37 believe that's the desire as well and
2:32:40 that's absolutely the desire but I think
2:32:41 the scope of that is a little bit too
2:32:43 unknown to give you a 100% um
2:32:46 declaration that we would not need
2:32:48 outside resources to do that uh clearly
2:32:51 public safy as we look at 25 the
2:32:53 administration and the priorities that
2:32:55 mayor paully has for next year um
2:32:58 there's a whole variety of Public Safety
2:33:01 uh jail fire uh issues that we're going
2:33:04 to have to have front and center at the
2:33:05 very beginning of 25 uh so that we can
2:33:08 come to the council you know probably
2:33:10 mid year next year uh and have some
2:33:12 serious conversations because certainly
2:33:14 while we're we're very pleased that this
2:33:17 budget seems to be coming together in
2:33:18 order to meet those needs um we are not
2:33:22 uh convinced that revenue streams will
2:33:25 support them in future years and so we
2:33:27 want to get the council talking about
2:33:29 that uh late spring early summer should
2:33:31 there be any midby anym changes that are
2:33:34 needed um and then beyond but it's going
2:33:36 to be as we think about priorities for
2:33:38 next year that's a top five uh looking
2:33:42 at those Revenue issues uh
2:33:44 safety police
2:33:47 enir thank you good I'm glad to hear and
2:33:49 actually just thought of another
2:33:50 question again just thinking about it
2:33:52 off to my head so I apologize I didn't
2:33:54 send this in
2:33:57 um the memo said we were largely in
2:34:00 agreement around delaying the housing
2:34:01 and parking studies um I had some um
2:34:06 suggestion around could we look at kind
2:34:09 of the housing and parking work plan
2:34:11 that we had a slide detailing that Dr
2:34:14 Dolly wall went through or actually I
2:34:16 can't remember who did it um around the
2:34:18 work that were already played planing in
2:34:20 housing and parking and and kind of as a
2:34:21 justification for delaying the the
2:34:23 studies which made which makes sense
2:34:25 logically um but had thought maybe we
2:34:28 can look at that list and some of the
2:34:30 other things that we're interested as a
2:34:31 council and looking at and kind of
2:34:33 having the policy discussion about what
2:34:35 makes sense recognizing that some of
2:34:37 those are required I was just curious if
2:34:39 the administration had kind of a
2:34:40 response to having that exercise on
2:34:42 Council or did we feel like really the
2:34:45 stuff that we had was required and so we
2:34:47 don't have capacity to consider other
2:34:48 things like FTE or or the other Eco
2:34:51 Northwest kind of
2:34:55 recommendations um I would invite uh
2:34:59 Community planning director mini Dolly
2:35:01 wall if you have
2:35:04 comments sure um you know we can
2:35:07 certainly have whatever conversation we
2:35:10 want to have about the work plan with
2:35:12 council with Council committee however
2:35:14 you desire uh at this time yes it's a
2:35:17 staff capacity issue the required um
2:35:21 items that we need to get through uh we
2:35:23 need to get through but I think also we
2:35:25 want to give some time for some of the
2:35:29 MF expansions that the council has
2:35:31 agreed to you know with the Pioneer
2:35:33 program with the shelter development to
2:35:35 see if there's anything that we can
2:35:37 learn from that um and and so we put in
2:35:41 the work and effort uh to calibrate it
2:35:44 accordingly the other part I think we we
2:35:46 mentioned in our presentation last time
2:35:48 was uh a lot of development feasibility
2:35:51 we learned from the Eco Northwest work
2:35:53 was tied to our parking requirements so
2:35:55 now that with the state Bill we Cann not
2:35:57 mandate um any sort of structured
2:36:00 parking that significantly improves
2:36:02 development feasibility for uh develop
2:36:05 you know for for housing and other uh
2:36:07 situations and so before we roll out
2:36:10 more incentives uh we want to see what
2:36:13 what are we getting out of the MFD that
2:36:15 we've already expanded how does this
2:36:17 parking uh play a role into it before we
2:36:20 take up any policy work related to doing
2:36:22 further work that was sort of our
2:36:24 justification for uh maybe in the next
2:36:26 two years we give it some time for
2:36:28 Council actions to play out uh before we
2:36:30 start tweaking
2:36:32 them and then we had an interim plan to
2:36:35 work in-house with Arch on the um uh
2:36:39 development density bonus program to see
2:36:41 if we can look at that specific uh
2:36:44 program which was also one of the
2:36:46 recommendations from Eco Northwest
2:36:48 report
2:36:50 oh that sorry just to clarify that item
2:36:52 about the development density bonus
2:36:54 program that would be something we
2:36:55 consider in the bium with
2:36:58 Arch H correct so there's no funding
2:37:00 request asked for it at this time it IT
2:37:03 staff will continue to look at whether
2:37:05 there's any efficiencies we can build
2:37:07 into that
2:37:08 program okay all right so before more
2:37:11 incentives evaluate what we've done and
2:37:13 really understand some of these new
2:37:15 requirements that actually might make
2:37:16 some of the things we want to consider
2:37:18 move point okay that makes sense correct
2:37:21 and staff capacity correct and staff
2:37:22 capacity okay thank
2:37:24 you always staff capacity um any other
2:37:30 questions not seeing any though I will
2:37:34 always look at council member Hall and
2:37:36 see if anything jumps up last minute but
2:37:38 you've already been
2:37:40 covered um so we have a moment for uh
2:37:45 Community comment um public comment here
2:37:48 and so I will see uh anybody online if
2:37:53 you're on the phone star three you're on
2:37:55 a computer raise your hand icon or send
2:37:58 the host a chat message and I will
2:38:01 obviously look into the room and see if
2:38:04 there's anybody here looking to make a
2:38:08 comment nothing either way okay
2:38:11 fantastic then we're looking for
2:38:14 feedback and so the direction needed
2:38:17 from the administration we've got five
2:38:20 specific areas that we definitely want
2:38:21 to make sure that we cover but we are
2:38:24 Council feel free to ask others um
2:38:28 Deputy council president D
2:38:30 Michelle thank you so uh we'll start
2:38:33 with the
2:38:35 Metroflex uh and I want to thank uh
2:38:37 people for the creative way that you've
2:38:39 put that together and yes I support that
2:38:42 um I just like to make some general
2:38:44 remarks about how we are approaching
2:38:47 these Transit and transportation
2:38:50 projects um you know we are one of 39
2:38:54 Suburban cities and U then there's the
2:38:57 Big Kahuna uh the city of Seattle and
2:39:00 they all go to Metro with their hands
2:39:03 out and wanting services and wanting uh
2:39:07 improvements to their Transit and uh I
2:39:10 think our approach here and also when we
2:39:13 go to Sound Transit the same situation
2:39:15 is there everybody's asking them for
2:39:17 everything we have demonstrated tonight
2:39:20 if we approve this that we are a strong
2:39:24 supporter of uh first mile Last Mile
2:39:27 Services in our community that we back
2:39:30 the Metroflex program and I think we
2:39:32 need to take that same attitude for the
2:39:36 light rail study and position ourselves
2:39:38 strongly if we are not fully committed
2:39:42 to um these programs we're going to
2:39:45 somebody else will be fully committed
2:39:48 and they will get those services so I
2:39:50 think we've just got to um we've got to
2:39:53 stay the course when it comes to uh our
2:39:56 backing of uh transit services and our
2:39:58 backing of the light rail study and our
2:40:01 commitment to bringing that light rail
2:40:03 station to isqua um I thought that uh
2:40:07 when we had this previous discussion
2:40:08 last week that many as I said made an
2:40:11 excellent case for holding on to this
2:40:13 light rail study um she gave the example
2:40:16 of Mercer Island as opposed to other
2:40:19 places are is our voice going to be
2:40:21 heard or is it sound transit's voice
2:40:23 that's going to be heard uh we want our
2:40:25 voice to be heard our our community
2:40:27 wants our voice to be heard and uh we
2:40:31 get there by getting ahead of the curve
2:40:33 by being on top of this of this process
2:40:37 rather than reacting to whatever sound
2:40:39 transis brings to us so in both cases
2:40:42 for Metroflex and for the light rail
2:40:45 study we just need to Bear down and stay
2:40:47 the course um when it comes to Metroflex
2:40:51 uh we have one year we've heard from
2:40:54 inumerable people and I've continued to
2:40:57 hear comments from community members on
2:40:59 Metroflex this is really something that
2:41:01 people are very concerned about really
2:41:04 want to see happen so as we go through
2:41:07 2025 I hope that we will continue our
2:41:10 discussions with Metro about how they
2:41:13 might be able to step up at some point
2:41:16 and help us out or can we get grants or
2:41:20 in other words let's be looking at 2026
2:41:23 and see what we can do to ensure the
2:41:26 sustainability of this program going
2:41:28 forward so we've solved it for one year
2:41:31 and we solve it for the
2:41:33 future
2:41:34 um thank you to Autumn for the um
2:41:38 explanation about the fleet um fund and
2:41:41 yes I would go ahead and approve that
2:41:43 with no other changes so I think there
2:41:46 is a good case for that and um uh again
2:41:49 with the DIA fund um uh I appreciate
2:41:54 that the Administration has uh come up
2:41:57 with a new proposal there again can we
2:42:00 continue to look for or can we assist
2:42:03 Dia in looking for other sources of
2:42:05 funding I know they're eligible for ltac
2:42:08 funds for example um and are there other
2:42:11 sources that um we can work in
2:42:14 partnership with them to see if we could
2:42:16 fill the Gap that's that's been created
2:42:19 so um those are my comments thank you
2:42:26 much no um okay we're good on all of
2:42:30 that um who wants to go
2:42:35 next council member Joe then council
2:42:38 member hunt thank you um I'll start from
2:42:41 the bottom just to be
2:42:43 different um my sense is that we could
2:42:47 adopt the budget on December second
2:42:49 unless I hear some different uh
2:42:52 dissenting voices from my colleagues on
2:42:54 on that one I appreciate the funding
2:42:57 proposal for DM would support that um
2:43:00 appreciate the light rail study staying
2:43:02 on the front burner rather than the back
2:43:05 burner and support the $200,000 from the
2:43:07 general fund uh be devoted to that light
2:43:10 rail study um I also support making no
2:43:13 other changes to Fleet I think that uh
2:43:16 the uh experts in the ground Gage and
2:43:20 the uh experts that are watching the
2:43:22 entire plan have given us ample
2:43:25 justification for keeping that plan uh
2:43:27 in place um I want to just spend a
2:43:30 little bit of time on the Metroflex uh
2:43:32 briefly as a point of personal privilege
2:43:34 I guess uh I went to a the the garage
2:43:37 event that I think I told you about and
2:43:39 uh it was all about Civics and the young
2:43:42 people that were there were saying that
2:43:44 they didn't feel their voice was being
2:43:46 heard they thought decisions were being
2:43:48 made by adults that impacted their lives
2:43:50 that they could didn't have a voice in
2:43:53 um at the end of the conversation I was
2:43:55 able to give council president Walsh the
2:43:58 floor and she was able to talk about our
2:44:01 conversation that we had just had uh two
2:44:03 nights be the night before uh to talk
2:44:06 about Metroflex and our desire to keep
2:44:08 that uh alive and that program alive and
2:44:12 the whole tener of the room and the
2:44:14 whole attitude of the room changed to
2:44:18 hey our voices matter matter because we
2:44:20 had those two young people on Tuesday
2:44:22 night that came and talked to us and
2:44:24 said how important Metroflex was to them
2:44:26 and we had Simon tonight talk about how
2:44:29 important Metroflex was to him and now
2:44:32 they think I I hope they think and
2:44:34 understand that their voice does matter
2:44:36 and by coming and talking to us and
2:44:38 other government bodies they can make a
2:44:40 difference because they are a member of
2:44:41 the community that belongs to this
2:44:43 community and their voice makes a
2:44:45 difference so um I fully support the
2:44:48 Metroflex funding
2:44:49 I think it's good for our young people
2:44:51 those with disabilities those that are
2:44:53 elderly and might not have other
2:44:54 Transportation means I give great thanks
2:44:57 to the administration for finding the
2:44:59 funding there and making that a priority
2:45:02 for this budget thank you very
2:45:04 much M
2:45:08 hunt thank
2:45:10 you on Metroflex we are proposing to
2:45:15 fund the part of this program that we
2:45:18 are contracted to fund and I believe
2:45:24 strongly that if we want to demonstrate
2:45:26 that we heard the voices of the
2:45:27 community that we heard those students
2:45:29 who came that we heard our hopelink
2:45:33 representative who came and spoke to the
2:45:34 importance of this for seniors um that
2:45:37 we you know that we took into account
2:45:41 the fact that we have seen on the map
2:45:43 that our lowincome communities are the
2:45:46 groups that are are really those
2:45:48 low-income folks are really the ones who
2:45:49 are um heavily using this service which
2:45:52 was a big part of our intent um when we
2:45:55 think about that what we want to do with
2:45:57 this budget is focus on the things that
2:45:59 are most impacting people's day-to-day
2:46:01 and really also focusing in on equity
2:46:03 and sustainability this is one of the
2:46:05 very few things that we are able to do
2:46:06 to help give people an option for
2:46:09 transit in our community um and I think
2:46:13 for all those reasons we're doing a
2:46:16 two-year budget we should fund this
2:46:18 program for the two years in the budget
2:46:20 uh what we are doing right now I think
2:46:22 is inadequate it is what we are required
2:46:25 to do because we're in an existing
2:46:26 contract so I uh appreciate my
2:46:29 colleagues comments about support of
2:46:31 this program and I think to to
2:46:33 demonstrate our commitment we should do
2:46:35 that the other thing that I was thinking
2:46:37 about is uh we all did Equity training
2:46:41 um and as part of that training I
2:46:45 remember that our um the person who was
2:46:49 was giving us that training which I
2:46:51 reflect on often saying that uh the you
2:46:55 know folks that are requiring transit to
2:46:57 get somewhere they may not be or or
2:46:59 folks that are students that are using
2:47:01 this Transit service they may not be
2:47:03 able to um Advocate as regularly and so
2:47:07 you know we need to take into account
2:47:08 that we heard all of those voices and I
2:47:10 think it I do not think we should expect
2:47:13 folks to have to come back in 6 months
2:47:16 next year to Advocate again I think we
2:47:18 should take into account that people
2:47:19 took time out of their schedules um for
2:47:22 this we heard them we're doing a
2:47:23 two-year budget we should fund it for
2:47:28 years on the fleet fund I I do think we
2:47:31 could phase into that by um you know
2:47:34 taking into account some of the oldest
2:47:36 fund oldest Vehicles first uh and it is
2:47:41 a big change from the way we've done
2:47:43 Fleet in the past I think that is a
2:47:44 potential savings that we could use to
2:47:49 Metroflex um I don't want to make a
2:47:52 recommendation without any any
2:47:54 suggestion there
2:47:57 um funding the uh Light Rail study is
2:48:00 another potential area I don't think we
2:48:04 th this
2:48:05 wasn't my uh when I made my comments at
2:48:09 the last meeting I was expecting this to
2:48:10 come back with with no funding for the
2:48:13 light rail for the next two years um I
2:48:16 was just looking back at my notes from
2:48:20 conversation
2:48:22 um I think we have done great work with
2:48:24 the community on early goal setting I
2:48:27 think that this is something that we can
2:48:30 move a little bit slower on because I
2:48:32 think the light rail overall is is going
2:48:35 slower so I I don't think prioritizing
2:48:38 the spending of
2:48:39 $200,000 on this over the next two years
2:48:42 would be my top priority and given all
2:48:45 of the other things that we're cutting I
2:48:47 I respect that
2:48:49 that there is an importance to tracking
2:48:52 this but I think over the next two years
2:48:54 and given our budget
2:48:56 situation I would work on doing this in
2:49:00 house or maybe adjusting if our
2:49:02 circumstance changes but the information
2:49:04 we have right now I think we can can put
2:49:07 this on the back
2:49:08 burner um I agree with the funding of
2:49:11 Dia and appreciate the uh the change
2:49:14 that was made there um also appreciate
2:49:16 all of the comments that have been
2:49:18 coming in about the uh about the
2:49:20 services provided by
2:49:23 Dia and um as far as December 2nd or
2:49:27 December 9th I think it seems like we're
2:49:30 we're all aligned uh there has there has
2:49:33 really been in this budget the one thing
2:49:36 that we've heard and I've heard too from
2:49:38 so many community members the one thing
2:49:39 that we I've heard is really about the
2:49:41 Metroflex um and so you know I think if
2:49:43 we can address that that would be great
2:49:46 there's not a lot of other pieces that
2:49:48 I've heard um that and the community uh
2:49:52 Human Services funding is another one um
2:49:55 so I think if we can address that I
2:49:57 think that would be that would be really
2:49:59 important um if the administration needs
2:50:02 more time than December 2nd then that
2:50:04 would be a consideration but other than
2:50:06 that I think December 2nd seems Seems in
2:50:10 cards got dueling microphones over here
2:50:14 think I saw council member Hall a moment
2:50:18 earlier
2:50:25 um all right everyone seems to be going
2:50:27 in different I'm going to go random
2:50:29 order now so we mix it up a little bit
2:50:31 so starting with Fleet fund um I I just
2:50:35 want to say I agree with the direction
2:50:37 of the fleet fund that's been proposed
2:50:39 um I think what's stuck with me the most
2:50:42 is what the mayor concluded and what you
2:50:44 said today what the mayor concluded with
2:50:46 at the last meeting which is just the
2:50:47 picture of the fleet fund isn't great we
2:50:50 committed to looking at the picture and
2:50:51 it's not great and it's not going to
2:50:53 feel good to correct these positions but
2:50:56 um it's better to be making these
2:50:58 Investments sooner rather than later um
2:51:01 and all the more important to get
2:51:03 started now because you mapped out kind
2:51:05 of in the memo how implementation is
2:51:08 quite a while so um I buy the argument
2:51:10 around Fleet fund um I completely agree
2:51:13 with council member hunt on the light
2:51:15 rail study um I
2:51:19 understand um I understand the argument
2:51:21 that keeping the ball rolling in some
2:51:23 way even if it's not the same way it's
2:51:25 very similar to like the equity
2:51:26 assessment that we were right is is good
2:51:30 but um I think that there are other
2:51:33 community priorities that stand out as
2:51:37 more important in this bium to me like
2:51:39 Metroflex and things like that so that's
2:51:42 where I'm that's where I feel like on
2:51:44 the light rail study I don't think that
2:51:46 we would necessarily lose out on too
2:51:49 much um within this bium and that seemed
2:51:51 to be demonstrated to us in the previous
2:51:53 meeting um as well um with regard to DIA
2:51:59 um agree with the new approach here um
2:52:01 thank you and thank you it it was nice
2:52:03 to hear from other people um in the
2:52:04 community um about them
2:52:09 um uh I haven't talked about Metroflex
2:52:12 and that's because of the last question
2:52:15 whether or not to adopt December 2nd or
2:52:16 9th um I'm
2:52:19 I'm going back and forth on this one
2:52:22 because there are a couple things that
2:52:23 are on my mind um
2:52:25 Metroflex it would be great to fund it
2:52:29 for the two years um but I think the
2:52:32 approach of funding it for 2025 is fine
2:52:35 knowing that it seems like we're fairly
2:52:36 aligned and supportive of Metroflex on
2:52:38 this Council so the administration
2:52:40 should be prepared to come forth with a
2:52:42 budget amendment at some point to fund
2:52:44 2026 finding that savings elsewhere
2:52:47 which path you decide to take doesn't
2:52:49 necessarily matter to me as long as it's
2:52:52 funded for the two years because if
2:52:55 right now we decide we we don't want to
2:52:57 fund the second year until we find grant
2:53:00 funding or those other external funding
2:53:03 that makes sense understanding that
2:53:04 we're going to do a budget amendment but
2:53:05 the risk is we're going to have to find
2:53:07 savings at some point because I'm going
2:53:09 to want to see a budget amendment to
2:53:11 support two years of Metroflex
2:53:15 um hopefully that made some sort of
2:53:18 sense can retouch on retroflex a little
2:53:20 bit too the other things that were on my
2:53:22 mind which is why I was thinking okay
2:53:23 maybe December 9th was the housing a
2:53:26 parking study although I um by what um
2:53:30 Dr Dolly wall said um yes we can have
2:53:33 the conversation about like what are our
2:53:35 priorities here but maybe we look and
2:53:38 evaluate what we've already done
2:53:40 understand some of these new
2:53:40 requirements acknowledge staff capacity
2:53:43 and CPD um and so on so I'm okay um
2:53:45 delaying those um the only other thing
2:53:48 that made me think about maybe December
2:53:50 9th is I wasn't quite I felt like I need
2:53:53 I feel like I still need more
2:53:55 information about the parks and open
2:53:56 space acquisition program um I would
2:53:59 really like I it's good to know that
2:54:01 these funds are largely like restricted
2:54:03 looks like there was like re and park
2:54:05 impact fees so like my first idea was
2:54:08 like Metroflex clearly that's not
2:54:10 something we can do with these funds
2:54:14 but I just want to get into a little bit
2:54:16 more like how often we're spending it
2:54:18 down and by Munch and I completely get
2:54:20 that it's for opportunities that come up
2:54:22 and you can't anticipate that but I also
2:54:24 want to just make sure we're having conf
2:54:25 I have confidence that we are
2:54:28 appropriately funding the fund at the
2:54:31 level that it should be year-over-year
2:54:32 considering that there are other
2:54:34 important Community priorities that we
2:54:35 also have to take in account to so I
2:54:38 don't know if that would require another
2:54:40 meeting to get information or if that
2:54:42 could be kind of year-over-year
2:54:43 information could be put in a memo I
2:54:46 guess maybe I'll stop here if you have
2:54:48 any kind of initial response to
2:54:51 that council president if I may uh we
2:54:55 plan to have an executive session on the
2:54:56 25th on that
2:54:59 topic on Park and open space acquisition
2:55:03 historical use of the fund or and and
2:55:08 and current
2:55:10 opportunities that are present
2:55:14 today okay yeah that's what I thought I
2:55:16 was but more current I mean if the
2:55:17 convers ation that seems like it would
2:55:20 be more of a policy conversation outside
2:55:21 of executive session I guess what I want
2:55:23 to know is like where has it been over
2:55:25 the years how often are we drawing it
2:55:26 down to close to zero where we have to
2:55:29 kind of refill the bucket and you know
2:55:32 is there space
2:55:34 there consider using funds for other
2:55:37 things knowing that it's kind of
2:55:38 restricted use it for everything and I
2:55:41 have difficulty in Open Session
2:55:43 addressing this really specifically
2:55:45 other than to say this will be a topic
2:55:47 of conversation okay week okay then I
2:55:49 I'll look and I guess we will see where
2:55:51 we're at after that conversation
2:55:54 okay well then I'll look forward to that
2:55:59 um uh the only other thing I just wanted
2:56:02 to put on radar was just thank you again
2:56:05 for the answer about um the needs of the
2:56:07 core and something that continues to
2:56:09 worry me is just the downstream impacts
2:56:11 of our investments and in public safety
2:56:13 and police so um if staff needs to at
2:56:17 any time during the B come to us for
2:56:19 additional Court Investments that would
2:56:21 be something I would wanting to
2:56:23 prioritize be really mindful
2:56:25 of put that up okay thank you council
2:56:30 member Ms
2:56:32 thanks what a difference among month
2:56:35 month ago we were talking about how
2:56:37 nobody ever comes to city council
2:56:38 meeting anymore postco we just can't get
2:56:41 anybody to come into a city council
2:56:43 meeting we just have to come up with
2:56:44 something that people really care about
2:56:46 right so uh I am I am in I'm in the camp
2:56:51 for I would do Metroflex two years if I
2:56:53 could wave a magic wand but I am also
2:56:56 convinced that the Administration has
2:56:58 heard loud and clear how this Council
2:56:59 feels about Metroflex so I'm also
2:57:02 convinced that next year they will
2:57:03 figure out how to make 2026 work but I
2:57:06 would I would do two years if it was up
2:57:07 to me but I'm I'm fine with one year
2:57:10 because like I said confident the
2:57:11 Administration has hurt us uh Fleet fund
2:57:14 is fine uh Light Rail
2:57:17 study uh I would kill this I would throw
2:57:20 the my my clog into the machine as the
2:57:24 leite that I am right now I we funded
2:57:27 st3 almost 10 years ago we're all paying
2:57:31 tons of money on it we put such faith in
2:57:35 down transit when we funded that knowing
2:57:38 that we weren't going to get most of the
2:57:39 benefit but we thought we were going to
2:57:41 get some benefit and then what's
2:57:43 happened in the intervening years is I
2:57:46 mean they've come here and they've said
2:57:48 we know that 554 is like so much we have
2:57:51 so much more traffic going into Seattle
2:57:53 than we do into bellw but guess what
2:57:54 we're going to make you go to Bellevue
2:57:55 anyhow I don't want to go to Bellevue I
2:57:57 want to go to Seattle Seattle's where
2:57:58 it's all happens so there's this long
2:58:01 history I think of Sound Transit not
2:58:03 listening to us and by the way they did
2:58:05 that back when we had somebody on the
2:58:07 Sound Transit board how much worse will
2:58:09 it be if we don't have anybody on the
2:58:10 board so I need guard rails before we
2:58:14 start getting within a mile of what that
2:58:17 station is going to look like like I
2:58:18 need guard rails so that they won't just
2:58:20 do the thing that's cheapest we have so
2:58:22 little control in these billions of
2:58:25 dollars that are going on and they will
2:58:27 do what I mean they will build what they
2:58:30 can um to address Transit and if that's
2:58:33 2500 parking stalls I mean just go look
2:58:36 at Atlanta look at the look at the end
2:58:38 of the lines of all the MARTA stations
2:58:40 it's all two giant 1250 parking lot
2:58:45 that's what they'll build because that's
2:58:46 what's cheapest um so I need to I need
2:58:50 to know that there are guard rails on
2:58:52 what they can build here in isqua before
2:58:54 I want to get within a mile of of that
2:58:58 because we're we'll get what they want
2:59:00 to give us because there's so much money
2:59:02 involved and they'll say well how dare
2:59:04 you hold up the poor residents of
2:59:06 samamish and Northbend and snami for
2:59:09 they getting Transit if you just put in
2:59:11 2500 parking stalls you know all those
2:59:14 folks will be able to come to isqua and
2:59:16 then get on the train and we all know
2:59:18 that that's not what the our community
2:59:20 wants so I have I continue to have huge
2:59:22 concerns and I would zero this one out
2:59:29 uh I'm on record for saying I I want to
2:59:31 have all the organizations that we give
2:59:33 money to come in on a regular basis and
2:59:36 talk to us about what they're doing I
2:59:38 hear loud and clear that there's a lot
2:59:40 of folks in the community uh that value
2:59:42 Dia I still want to know what we do with
2:59:45 our investments with Dia and what we get
2:59:48 for our investments with Dia but I am
2:59:49 supportive of this move going forward I
2:59:52 I hear the community on it and then
2:59:54 adopting on December 2nd versus December
2:59:56 9th I I don't care um we the only things
2:59:59 that we do as a council is we write
3:00:02 checks and we write laws right and the
3:00:04 this is the writing check part and it's
3:00:06 most important part of our job and if it
3:00:08 you know we'll sell no wine before it's
3:00:10 time to uh for those of you who are old
3:00:12 enough to remember the the Ernest and
3:00:14 Julio Gallow uh commercials from the
3:00:16 1970s and
3:00:20 sorry sorry Zach uh but you know we
3:00:23 we'll we'll be done when we're done
3:00:27 thanks okay I'm going to throw my
3:00:30 comments in there and then we'll see if
3:00:31 there's any round twos um I'm also going
3:00:34 to go random just because I can that's
3:00:37 how I wrote my notes um Fleet I'd like
3:00:41 the fleet plan and the concept to come
3:00:44 to a council committee and I think we
3:00:46 really need to work this over I
3:00:50 appreciate that there is a lot of
3:00:52 backlogged need here and I'm not willing
3:00:56 to take that out of the budget but I'm
3:00:59 also just not ready for us to make those
3:01:04 purchases yet um I I really just feel
3:01:08 like we need to be able to get into that
3:01:12 much like we do with our Capital
3:01:15 Improvement plan um and really have an
3:01:17 understanding of how this serves the
3:01:20 community um and whether each of these
3:01:22 purchases are really on the right scale
3:01:25 so I would love to get into that but you
3:01:28 know me I'm behind anywhere where we're
3:01:31 behind on maintenance um I'm going to
3:01:34 support that I just want us to do it
3:01:38 fully and really understand what we're
3:01:40 doing there um Dia I appreciate that
3:01:44 we've come together and you know made
3:01:47 some movement
3:01:48 here I really think that anything that
3:01:52 is a um utility tax
3:01:55 credit should be given um and stay local
3:02:01 rather than going to the state and not
3:02:03 have a 25% reduction for
3:02:06 2025 um that being said it's a few
3:02:09 thousand dollar so I'm not going to put
3:02:12 my foot down over that um the areas
3:02:16 where I will put my foot down on and
3:02:18 where I think you've heard the most
3:02:20 contention is Metroflex and the LI rail
3:02:22 study so
3:02:24 my thoughts align most with um council
3:02:29 member hunt I think our community has
3:02:31 strongly talked about their support and
3:02:34 it is the people with the least ability
3:02:37 to Advocate who are the users of this
3:02:42 service and so the fact that we have
3:02:44 gotten comments on this at all and that
3:02:47 most of the com comments have been on
3:02:48 that um really indicates the importance
3:02:51 of this service is just getting off the
3:02:53 ground um and I really think that our
3:02:57 community wants us to fund it not just
3:02:59 for 2025 but for both years of the
3:03:02 budget um I Heard council member Hall
3:03:06 and council member Mart say hey we told
3:03:08 the administration what's important to
3:03:10 us so we think they'll come back to it
3:03:13 we told them on the 12th this was
3:03:15 important to us and what they came back
3:03:17 back with was a one-year funding uh our
3:03:22 job is to do the hard
3:03:25 things and to set a two-year budget
3:03:29 because that's the way that we do things
3:03:32 and I think
3:03:33 it's a much better
3:03:37 situation to make the hard decisions
3:03:39 about what we would cut um to fund our
3:03:42 priorities than
3:03:44 to and like if we get a grant we're
3:03:47 going to a budget amendment that would
3:03:48 just remove the funding for that and it
3:03:51 would go back to the general fund the if
3:03:53 your proposal is do a one-year funding
3:03:56 and then we'll come through then we're
3:03:58 just saying we're going to have to find
3:04:00 that money in the future so I think it's
3:04:03 our responsibility to find that money
3:04:05 now if it's a priority toward that
3:04:09 idea I really cannot support spending
3:04:15 $200,000 just to tell Sound Transit that
3:04:17 we're were serious about something that
3:04:19 we voted for as a community for
3:04:22 st3 and spend $200,000 of our money now
3:04:26 to plan for something for
3:04:29 2041 um we have Community needs now and
3:04:33 we have Community priorities now that
3:04:36 are super important the idea that we're
3:04:38 doing this so that we can coordinate
3:04:40 with an overend Crossing um that has no
3:04:44 funding there is there is nothing out
3:04:46 there that nobody is going to plot money
3:04:49 down in our hands to say here you guys
3:04:51 need another over Ender Crossing for the
3:04:54 I90 for the city so um I really think
3:05:00 that we need to take a step back from
3:05:02 that and
3:05:04 recognize that we've got some really
3:05:07 important needs right now um what I
3:05:11 would like to do is fun Metroflex for
3:05:14 the two years and I think we can do that
3:05:16 by eliminating the light rail study and
3:05:19 finding some additional funds in land
3:05:22 acquisition Fleet fund adjustments or
3:05:24 general fund it's not that much money at
3:05:27 that point budget dust I believe it's
3:05:31 called
3:05:33 um that being said if the council
3:05:36 doesn't agree with that outright I would
3:05:40 suggest that we leave the funding um for
3:05:44 the light rail plan in the general fund
3:05:46 and have that item be
3:05:49 unfunded and then determine midb Anum
3:05:53 which of those two priorities between
3:05:55 Metroflex and the light rail are
3:05:58 important if at some point I don't want
3:06:01 to spend the money on light rail
3:06:05 planning and then have us have to come
3:06:07 back into Metroflex my first priority
3:06:10 would be don't do the light rail
3:06:12 planning and spend it and commit to two
3:06:14 years of Metroflex but if we're at that
3:06:17 point where we can't quite come to a
3:06:20 full agreement on that I just want to
3:06:23 make sure we're not spending the money
3:06:25 and can make that
3:06:26 decision
3:06:28 so those are kind of my thoughts
3:06:30 depending on how further conversation
3:06:33 goes would be dependent on whether I
3:06:36 think we can go for December 2nd or
3:06:37 December
3:06:39 9th so I don't think we came
3:06:43 to full consensus on two of the bigger
3:06:47 items so I'm
3:06:51 wondering what the administration heard
3:06:53 or whether we want to do a second round
3:06:58 comments second round okay Deputy
3:07:01 council president D
3:07:03 Michelle well yeah it sounds like I'm in
3:07:07 the minority here but I will I will come
3:07:09 back with all due respect and
3:07:12 say uh if if Sound Transit is going to
3:07:15 do what they're going to do anyway
3:07:19 uh the only way that we can change that
3:07:23 course is by knowing where what we want
3:07:26 to do and we won't know what we want to
3:07:28 do unless we begin to do the studies and
3:07:31 the research that uh bolster our
3:07:34 decision about where we want that
3:07:36 station to be what we want it to look
3:07:38 like and so forth so uh I know that it's
3:07:42 22 years away or more but 22 years is a
3:07:45 blink of an eye in the planning world uh
3:07:49 it will be here before people know it we
3:07:53 won't be here probably but it will be
3:07:55 here and uh if we have no plans we have
3:07:59 no research to back it up uh if we just
3:08:02 say Well they're going to do what
3:08:03 they're going to do anyway yes they will
3:08:05 do what they want to do anyway uh we
3:08:07 either get our voice out there or uh we
3:08:10 wait wait for them with whatever they've
3:08:12 got planned so uh uh I personally am
3:08:17 willing to hold off on the funding for
3:08:19 2026 for metlex see where we could go
3:08:22 with that and at the same time get that
3:08:25 steud for light rail going so that we
3:08:29 are going forward on both fronts um with
3:08:33 our Transit planning
3:08:35 so uh if indeed I am in the minority and
3:08:40 there's not the votes for the light rail
3:08:43 study I would like to see that money go
3:08:45 to mlex and Bund that second year thank
3:08:50 you council member
3:08:54 Mars uh I hate disagree with Barb but
3:08:59 I'm going to in this particular
3:09:03 um I was struck earlier we were talking
3:09:06 about our goals around multimodal
3:09:08 Transportation the only thing that's
3:09:11 changed in the 15 years that I've been
3:09:14 on Council is Metro FL
3:09:17 and everything else the the landscape of
3:09:23 multimodal Transportation in this city
3:09:25 which we talk about we must talk about
3:09:28 every month or two for the last 15 years
3:09:30 and was probably the 15 years before
3:09:32 that um has not changed so I and I I I
3:09:37 so wish it had and it's part of why I'm
3:09:39 so excited about Metro flag uh I I don't
3:09:43 want to just I don't want to let Sound
3:09:45 Transit do what they want to do I want
3:09:47 to slow it down until we understand I
3:09:51 want somebody from them to come in and
3:09:54 tell us that they understand that they
3:09:57 can't just build the least expensive
3:09:59 thing we live so often if if I if I if I
3:10:02 were to still down what the last 15
3:10:05 years is is we make laws and then people
3:10:09 do the thing that is most cost effective
3:10:11 for them developers and the county and
3:10:15 the state they all do do the thing
3:10:17 that's most cost effective to them not
3:10:19 the thing that we want them to do
3:10:21 because we have less control than we
3:10:23 think so I'm I understand the urge to be
3:10:28 at the table not be on the menu but I I
3:10:31 want to get out of the
3:10:33 kitchen I don't know if this analogy
3:10:35 works very well but um in until such
3:10:38 time as as like I said we have we
3:10:40 understand that that we have when I when
3:10:43 I heard the description of how they're
3:10:45 going to go about doing this they're
3:10:46 going to decide what they want to do and
3:10:48 then they're going to do it and so that
3:10:51 scares me because I think what the
3:10:54 economics is going to point to is so
3:10:56 different than the vision that we have
3:10:58 for uh Light Rail in our city so until I
3:11:01 hear better on that again I'm going to
3:11:03 be the leite and throw my clog in the uh
3:11:06 windmill thank you okay I'm going to
3:11:08 push back and make sure that I get what
3:11:11 you said you're saying 0 to light rail
3:11:14 are you saying Metroflex 2025 or 2025
3:11:18 and 26 I already said that if I could
3:11:19 wave a magic one I would do 2026 I just
3:11:22 said I was I just said I was okay with
3:11:24 one year but I would prefer two years so
3:11:26 Mark me down is prefer two years okay
3:11:29 and if that isn't the case if we go with
3:11:31 only 2025 then the 200k for the light
3:11:35 rail study would just go back to the
3:11:36 general fund correct okay thank
3:11:39 you uh council member
3:11:43 Joe thank
3:11:45 you um as part of of my day job I'm in
3:11:49 SNES County quite a bit uh there's a
3:11:52 committee called skit which is SNES
3:11:54 County committee to improve traffic and
3:11:59 uh one of the parties that is a
3:12:01 consistent participant there is
3:12:02 Community Transit and Sound Transit and
3:12:06 the government Affairs person for Sound
3:12:08 Transit is named Eric Ashley and I've
3:12:12 had the benefit of having some
3:12:14 conversations with him about isqua in
3:12:17 2042 or
3:12:19 2043 and um he did
3:12:23 encourage uh me to uh try to have as
3:12:30 many different conversations within our
3:12:32 community so that we could really
3:12:35 articulate what our vision was for the
3:12:37 Terminus for this
3:12:40 spot uh for Sound Transit when it
3:12:44 comes uh and and our budget speaks l ly
3:12:47 in terms of what our priorities are and
3:12:50 I think that having that
3:12:52 $200,000 in there is important to show
3:12:56 that we have skin in the game and money
3:13:01 on the table
3:13:02 for the high stakes poker hand that's
3:13:05 going to be played between Sound Transit
3:13:07 and this
3:13:08 city uh we can look at a couple of
3:13:11 examples in terms of things that have
3:13:13 worked and things that haven't worked
3:13:15 with sound transit spots
3:13:18 um I think uh director Dolly wall talked
3:13:22 about redond doing a really good job in
3:13:25 terms of planning
3:13:27 um f Way also has been doing a really
3:13:30 good job of
3:13:32 planning we can probably get some
3:13:34 information from both those cities to
3:13:36 come back and find out how they funded
3:13:38 it over what years what worked what kind
3:13:41 of committee they had when it was in
3:13:43 place when it was best effective from
3:13:46 the city point of view to give direction
3:13:48 and vision to sound transit for what the
3:13:51 community really wanted to
3:13:52 see Federal Way did a great job
3:13:56 because
3:13:58 they scoped out and planned where they
3:14:01 wanted the
3:14:02 station by planning the zoning by
3:14:06 planning the road configurations or the
3:14:10 the little elements that would make
3:14:12 their Vision
3:14:14 possible I'd like to find out more about
3:14:16 what Federal Way did but it seems to me
3:14:19 that the in-house work that we do for
3:14:22 $200,000 to find out what our vision is
3:14:25 what we want to
3:14:26 see uh then goes to that next step of
3:14:29 trying to lay down the zoning and the
3:14:33 the the kind of layout for what we'd
3:14:36 like to see there so that it is easy for
3:14:40 Sound Transit to come in and say you've
3:14:43 done all this work let's now talk about
3:14:45 what we want to see there rather than
3:14:47 them saying Mercer Island you're going
3:14:50 to get this station right here on I90
3:14:52 and since you haven't talked to us since
3:14:54 you didn't come and communicate with us
3:14:56 that's what you get and you can sue us
3:14:58 you can take us to court but that
3:15:00 building's already there
3:15:03 so maybe we're too early in the
3:15:05 conversation but I really support Barb D
3:15:08 Michelle's idea that we need to have
3:15:09 that 200,000 in there to have skin in
3:15:12 the game and our poker chips on the
3:15:13 table our budget speaks to sound trans
3:15:17 as to how serious we are about what
3:15:19 we're going to do um so I would implore
3:15:22 my colleagues to put the $200,000 in for
3:15:25 the Sound Transit
3:15:27 Terminus um discussion Vision it's
3:15:30 in-house work we're not using consultant
3:15:32 that's going to uh ask us for a ton of
3:15:35 extra money but it's work that we can do
3:15:37 inhouse and if it turns out that we
3:15:39 don't have the staff to do it or don't
3:15:41 have the time to do it we've at least
3:15:43 put the marker on the budget of $200,000
3:15:47 on there so that sound transit does look
3:15:49 at it they can see that over the years
3:15:51 we put that money in there planning for
3:15:53 the future because we're serious about
3:15:55 the Terminus and what we want to see in
3:15:57 isqua at the end so
3:16:00 um alternate plan well the plan I would
3:16:03 propose would be um keep the funding for
3:16:07 next year for Metroflex keep the
3:16:10 $200,000 in there for the Terminus study
3:16:14 um direct the administration to continue
3:16:16 to track try to find money for Metroflex
3:16:18 or granting or other options for the
3:16:21 next year
3:16:22 2026 um but that funding I think for
3:16:26 Sound Transit is fairly important in
3:16:28 that conversation we don't want to end
3:16:30 up like merer Island we want to end up
3:16:32 like redond or Federal Way so the one
3:16:34 request I'd have for the administration
3:16:36 is if you can find out what Federal Way
3:16:38 and Redmond did that was successful and
3:16:41 the timing for those pieces along the
3:16:44 way so that we can be more informed as
3:16:46 to when we might need to put that money
3:16:48 in there um that would be the asset I
3:16:50 would
3:16:53 have Council
3:16:57 mul I'm just not feeling as cynical
3:16:59 about s trans Sound Transit so I'm I'm a
3:17:02 little I don't feel as
3:17:07 um I just I'm not feeling that there's
3:17:09 this urgent need this B anym to be
3:17:11 moving forward with that work um
3:17:13 especially given our challenging
3:17:14 Financial atwork so I agree with um
3:17:18 council president Walsh um to use that
3:17:22 funding to support a second year of
3:17:23 Metroflex instead assuming it's not
3:17:25 restricted funding which I thought it I
3:17:26 think it's general fund funding so it's
3:17:29 not um and then and then it you know
3:17:31 maybe we find grant funding for our
3:17:33 light rail station work like that I just
3:17:36 to me it seems like this is a more
3:17:38 pressing need um in the community at the
3:17:41 moment
3:17:47 council member
3:17:48 hunt uh I agree with the proposal to
3:17:51 move the 200,000 from the general fund
3:17:54 which is currently earmarked for the
3:17:55 light rail study to the second year of
3:17:57 Metroflex and there's also few other
3:18:00 things um there's a a dis a new dis uh
3:18:04 for when we move this $50,000 which is
3:18:06 in the bium so $50,000 and that's
3:18:09 something that is marked as something
3:18:10 that council could consider because we
3:18:12 said we potentially don't need a new dis
3:18:15 um so there's other things that we could
3:18:18 we could chime in on to make up that
3:18:19 extra money but the 200,000 gets us most
3:18:21 of the way there uh I support that I
3:18:24 think this discussion of amendments that
3:18:27 our job right now is to look forward two
3:18:30 years and align this budget to the best
3:18:32 of ability with the values of the
3:18:33 community and there is this pressing
3:18:36 need for metrof Flix and I think we
3:18:38 should reflect that reflect the
3:18:41 community comments by funding it for for
3:18:43 the two years that we're budgeting for
3:18:44 as council member Mart said we write
3:18:46 checks so we're writing a check to show
3:18:48 that we care about this program we want
3:18:49 it to we want it to continue um and I
3:18:53 think we should do that in both years
3:18:56 that we are budgeting
3:18:58 for council member H can I ask a quick
3:19:01 question about that I can't remember if
3:19:02 we got into this last week do we are we
3:19:05 making the assumption that the cost for
3:19:07 Metroflex would be the same in 2026 than
3:19:10 it would be in our current contract do
3:19:11 we have any reason to expect it might be
3:19:13 more expensive absolutely we do not have
3:19:16 an offer service beyond the end of next
3:19:19 year and in talking with King County
3:19:22 Transit they're not sure that it will be
3:19:24 continued they're facing multi-million
3:19:26 dollar Cuts before the state legislature
3:19:28 deals with additional Cuts so we do not
3:19:31 have an offer of service beyond the end
3:19:32 of next
3:19:34 year okay that's helpful
3:19:38 Contex but with that said
3:19:40 Madam council president um the
3:19:43 administration hears you loud and clear
3:19:45 um so there's no there's no uh issue
3:19:49 with that the issue is operational uh
3:19:52 the King County Transit is not providing
3:19:54 the service or does not provide it at a
3:19:56 cost I mean we're already paying a
3:19:58 fairly significant perite cost and I
3:20:00 think the council is saying as a
3:20:01 community value okay but if it goes from
3:20:05 200 and change to 400 and change is that
3:20:09 the same thing are we going to pay $100
3:20:11 a ride uh does that make sense if the
3:20:14 issue is providing
3:20:16 that transit for those in need there are
3:20:19 other opportunities other options and I
3:20:21 think the administration would like to
3:20:23 have some flexibility in providing those
3:20:26 options so uh I think we can say that we
3:20:29 hear you um we will continue to work
3:20:31 forward that the understanding from the
3:20:33 council is you'd like to see this
3:20:34 through the bium if not with uh King
3:20:37 County Transit some other operator and
3:20:39 so we will work with King County Transit
3:20:42 beginning of the year they let us know
3:20:45 in a conversation that director and I
3:20:47 had with them what about two weeks ago
3:20:49 now uh they were non-committed with
3:20:52 everything they saying they are having
3:20:53 significant budget problems uh and they
3:20:56 were not prepared to talk beyond that so
3:20:59 I think again as we talk about Sound
3:21:00 Transit uh as we talk about light rail
3:21:04 um we need to control our own destiny
3:21:06 that we cannot sit back and hope that
3:21:09 others will look upon isqua and say
3:21:11 We'll fine we'll take care of you and
3:21:12 mayor Paulie in presenting this budget
3:21:15 to you uh I that's a theme throughout um
3:21:18 so um we will commit this evening to uh
3:21:22 continue to work on uh the shared ride
3:21:25 option and if it is Metroflex great if
3:21:28 it's offered to us great um and we will
3:21:31 come back to you uh prior to the meeting
3:21:33 on December 2nd uh with a response as to
3:21:37 what a 26 funding strategy would look
3:21:39 like um you know if I may council
3:21:42 president kind of respond to other
3:21:44 comments the council's made or would you
3:21:46 like to take further comments from the
3:21:49 council um I'm fine with that I will
3:21:52 make my secondary comments um after and
3:21:55 then we can see what other well then
3:21:58 then let me wait until the council's
3:21:59 finished okay and we'll give you a
3:22:01 Roundup of the where the administration
3:22:04 thinks we are here at the end of the
3:22:05 evening yeah um I I think your comments
3:22:09 about whether or not service could be
3:22:10 provided for 2026 is important and
3:22:14 something that we can certainly
3:22:17 look at um from my perspective I would
3:22:21 be very hesitant to fund a program that
3:22:25 was some sort of you know single ride um
3:22:29 opportunity I think one of the benefits
3:22:31 of this is that it gets people an orca
3:22:33 card and it gets people uh used to using
3:22:38 the Metro service and so whether that's
3:22:41 training our young folks um that this is
3:22:43 an accessible service and something that
3:22:46 they can not just to get around isqua
3:22:48 but also throughout um the region I
3:22:52 think is an important element of all of
3:22:54 that and so um I would certainly hope
3:22:58 that we could rely on King County to
3:23:02 continue that service and if they were
3:23:04 going to be eliminating that service
3:23:06 from us I would hope that they would
3:23:08 also be looking at eliminating it from
3:23:10 everywhere because just because it's a
3:23:13 new program doesn't mean that um ours
3:23:15 should be on the cutting block first um
3:23:18 I don't mean that it should actually be
3:23:19 eliminated everywhere just that gosh it
3:23:23 yeah that would be quite uh unfortunate
3:23:26 if that was something that was looking
3:23:28 at um I am not supportive of funding the
3:23:33 light rail study not because I don't
3:23:36 think we sh I think we should have a
3:23:39 community conversation about where the
3:23:41 light rail station is but I think one of
3:23:44 the things
3:23:46 when we were talking about at the garage
3:23:49 on the Civics conversation um and just
3:23:52 in general it you can get community
3:23:55 engagement on things that people are
3:23:57 interested in especially if you have
3:24:01 maps and locations and places they can
3:24:03 put stickers on um I I think this is the
3:24:07 exact thing that we can do the initial
3:24:12 internally and have a conversation about
3:24:15 where does the Community want this
3:24:17 station to be I think that's the stage
3:24:19 that we're at right now um
3:24:24 I no I I think what this would be is
3:24:29 $200,000 spent on something I think we
3:24:32 can do that internally with our staff um
3:24:37 capabilities and get a sense of where
3:24:41 community wants a station before we get
3:24:46 you know any of the land use areas or
3:24:49 any of the Is it feasible um in those
3:24:53 locations I think we need the community
3:24:56 input first um before I'm willing to put
3:24:59 forth
3:25:01 $200,000 on something that would be for
3:25:04 a project that isn't going to happen for
3:25:07 20 years so I I think it's important to
3:25:10 recognize I think we can do elements
3:25:15 that get us moving toward um that
3:25:18 concept without necessarily spending
3:25:21 that much
3:25:26 money any other comments or do we want
3:25:29 to hear from City administrator at this
3:25:32 point Okay C
3:25:35 administrator thank you council
3:25:37 president members of the council really
3:25:38 appreciate uh the Deep discussion this
3:25:41 evening and glad that uh uh we seem to
3:25:44 be whittling through the list so
3:25:47 um I think we hear that the DS spending
3:25:50 is in line with the council's thinking
3:25:52 so thank you on that um regarding the
3:25:55 fleet fund um this is something we'll
3:25:57 continue to bring to the council and in
3:25:59 in my discussions with mayor Paulie as
3:26:01 we look at the work plan for uh 20 uh
3:26:05 25 we will we'll look at ways to
3:26:08 continue to involve the council in that
3:26:11 um again with Metroflex uh we are
3:26:14 committed to continuing this program we
3:26:16 will continue uh to talk with King
3:26:19 County Transit um uh the the Practical
3:26:23 reality is is they may come back and say
3:26:25 we're not able to do this and so then
3:26:27 the question will be are there less
3:26:30 optimal programs uh that might not teach
3:26:33 kids how to use an orca card but still
3:26:35 would allow them to and seniors and
3:26:37 others to have access to the service so
3:26:40 we will uh continue uh to do that uh so
3:26:43 that leaves uh the uh Light Rail study
3:26:48 um again the mayor is extraordinarily
3:26:52 committed to seeing this through uh and
3:26:55 through the comments that you have all
3:26:57 made um I think that there's there's
3:26:59 really two sides of a coin there's the
3:27:01 one side of the coin that says uh if we
3:27:03 are not diligent it will never come the
3:27:06 other side of the coin is it's 20 years
3:27:08 away we got more important things to
3:27:10 focus on and um you know I I think the
3:27:14 mayor is going to have to be thoughtful
3:27:17 over the next several days and uh uh
3:27:20 reflect on these comments um and decide
3:27:23 what you would like to ultimately have
3:27:25 as a a final proposal for the council to
3:27:28 vote either up or down uh on that um you
3:27:31 know the the commitment of the community
3:27:35 the ongoing dialogue with the community
3:27:38 um you know much of this we can do a
3:27:40 city forces but there are pieces that we
3:27:42 cannot um and so we can go back once
3:27:45 again and talk with community planning
3:27:46 and development and see if there is a
3:27:48 different scope uh of work for that um I
3:27:52 think what monies might be uh allocated
3:27:56 in reserve for 2026 for a shared ride
3:27:59 Metroflex or something else I think is
3:28:01 something that we will also go back uh
3:28:04 to see um but I I don't know in the eyes
3:28:07 of the administration that that funding
3:28:10 and the light rail study are tied that
3:28:13 they are separate Standalone issues um
3:28:15 which the the mayor will ponder over the
3:28:18 next several days and so I think from
3:28:20 the administration standpoint we've
3:28:22 heard enough of from the council that
3:28:25 with uh really uh the light rail study
3:28:29 uh funding and a commitment maybe more
3:28:33 uh flushed out commitment to met metlex
3:28:35 or a shared ride program in 26 uh with
3:28:39 those two issues resolved I think we are
3:28:41 done um and so with the council's
3:28:45 concurrence we will continue to work
3:28:47 toward that for December 2nd uh come
3:28:50 back uh with final recommendations on
3:28:53 those two points uh the light rail
3:28:56 funding and any additional funding for
3:28:59 Metro Flex or a shared ride service in
3:29:01 26 Council can agree or disagree then we
3:29:05 package everything up final
3:29:12 consideration how does that feel folks
3:29:14 December 2nd or is there something that
3:29:18 we need from the administration in the
3:29:22 interim that would get us there for
3:29:25 December
3:29:28 2nd council member Marts so in this in
3:29:32 the spirit of uh maybe helping uh the
3:29:38 how the mayor might respond on this I
3:29:40 mean you know what what do we get for
3:29:44 $200,000 like what how does it move the
3:29:46 conversation forward um why now right I
3:29:50 mean st3 was passed 8 years ago why is
3:29:53 it all of a sudden urgent
3:29:55 now the answers to those questions might
3:29:58 help me understand why this is important
3:30:01 to the administration and and in part
3:30:04 just building on the work that we have
3:30:05 done in the last 12 18 months um we have
3:30:08 had Community meetings we've had the
3:30:10 term of art the light rail planning
3:30:13 guide uh which has been developed the
3:30:15 money that the council was already
3:30:16 invested through arpa funds all that's
3:30:18 been spent in the last 12 or 18 months
3:30:20 and I think the mayor's concern has been
3:30:23 uh to not have a pause and so
3:30:26 consequently then the question is what
3:30:28 does that look like not having a pause
3:30:30 and so we went back as I said earlier
3:30:33 this evening um you know I was prepared
3:30:36 not to fund this recommend not to fund
3:30:37 this either you all convinced me kind of
3:30:39 otherwise despite the fact that you were
3:30:41 convincing yourself not to do it what I
3:30:43 was hearing was the importance of
3:30:45 continuing the discussion and so that's
3:30:47 why we went back uh and had that
3:30:49 discussion internally but we'll have it
3:30:51 again um and come back to you but again
3:30:54 we don't see the light rail study
3:30:56 funding and Metroflex funding tied we'll
3:30:59 come back to you and deal with them both
3:31:01 separately on their own individual
3:31:02 merits uh I think again the only two
3:31:05 remaining issues Council can vote up or
3:31:07 down based on the mayor's final
3:31:09 recommendations to you um and
3:31:12 hopefully but I think it's that issue of
3:31:14 momentum it's that issue of continuing
3:31:16 environmental issues are going to be
3:31:18 extraordinarily important um I think
3:31:21 isqua's view of environmental issues are
3:31:23 different than everyone else's view of
3:31:24 environmental issues and as we look at
3:31:26 the World perhaps that's going to even
3:31:28 accelerate um so we just want to be
3:31:30 thoughtful so we'll go back once again
3:31:33 and talk some more uh over the next
3:31:35 several days and uh again there'll be
3:31:37 two final recommendations from the mayor
3:31:39 on those two points for your
3:31:41 consideration on
3:31:43 December yeah I just want to say I
3:31:45 really appreciate what council member
3:31:46 Mart said about you know these are the
3:31:49 the ways that you're thinking about it
3:31:51 and what would be useful in
3:31:54 understanding that from my perspective
3:31:55 it would also be what can we get out of
3:31:59 $200,000 that we couldn't do internally
3:32:03 then anytime we make a decision to use
3:32:06 internal staff time we're choosing not
3:32:09 to do something else absolutely so I
3:32:11 think that would be an important element
3:32:14 of if we do more of the work internally
3:32:17 what does that push back um and I think
3:32:20 that gives us a fuller picture of what
3:32:22 that is
3:32:24 so any other comments do the
3:32:27 administration have what they need thank
3:32:30 oie dokie so looking at that go to the
3:32:34 order
3:32:36 anybody okay we are adjourned at 10:03
3:32:39 pm thank you

Attendance

Council / Members (6)
Barbara de Michele
Zach Hall
Victoria Hunt
Russell Joe
Tola Marts
Lindsey Walsh
Staff (3)
Wally Bobkiewicz, City Administrator
Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator
Tisha Gieser, City Clerk
Excused
Chris Reh
Audience commenters (1)
Rob Peters