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Monday, November 18, 2024

6:30 PM · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topics tracked across meetings:
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update AB 8796 18/19
Waiver of Permit Fees for Low Income Residents and Building Permit Fee Deferral for Emergencies AB 8950 5/6
Citywide Strategic Plan Five-Year Update AB 8911 5/6
3. AGENDA ITEMS
3a
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update COM 0040
60 min · Stephen Padua, Planning Manager · packet pp.5–448
Topics: Land Use
Staff report:
I. Draft Ordinance
3b
Citywide Strategic Plan Update COM 0072
45 min · Dale Markey Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator · packet pp.449–550
Staff report:
The Administration recommends that the City Council Committee of the Whole recommend the approval and adoption of the update to the Our Issaquah Strategic Plan.
3c
2025-26 Budget: Deliberations COM 0039
30 min · Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator · packet pp.551–653
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
At the November 12, 2024 Council deliberations, City Council provided feedback on the budget and expressed interest in making adjustments to the proposed budget. The Administration proposes changes to the 2025-2026 draft budget in response to Council feedback for consideration. In addition to what is presented in the materials, the Administration anticipates additional
0:06 welcome everyone I council president
0:08 Walsh call
0:10 the November it's Sor November November
0:14 18th 2024 Committee of the whole meeting
0:17 to order at 6:31 p.m. as a reminder we
0:21 continue to have a remote aspect to our
0:23 meeting and so both staff and members of
0:25 the public may be participating in
0:27 tonight's meeting remotely via
0:31 there are multiple public comment
0:33 opportunities at tonight's meeting and
0:35 we have some lovely public uh members
0:38 here with us and online so there is
0:41 first a general public comment
0:42 opportunity at the beginning of the
0:44 meeting or if you want to wait through
0:46 the entire presentation kind of hear um
0:49 what's going on you can make comments
0:50 after the presentation and Council
0:52 question and answer period on any of
0:55 tonight's three agenda items so we'll
0:58 start with this general public com M uh
1:00 members of the public May address
1:02 council at this time in person or
1:04 virtually those who signed up in advance
1:07 to make comments will be called on first
1:09 if you're joining us virtually and would
1:11 like to make comments you're going to
1:13 look for the virtual hand if you're on
1:17 um a computer or smartphone look for
1:19 that hand icon or you can send the host
1:21 a chat message if you're on the phone
1:23 you can press star three if you're in
1:25 the room and didn't sign up we will ask
1:28 for speakers before closing that portion
1:30 of the meeting so I believe we have some
1:33 people signed up to speak so I'll just
1:35 move on to that portion you are invited
1:38 to address the council regarding matters
1:40 that are directly related to isqua
1:42 programs projects uh services or events
1:45 comments related to political campaigns
1:47 are not permitted please direct comments
1:50 to the whole Council and not individuals
1:53 while this is not a question and answer
1:55 session we will contact you to follow up
1:57 if needed when recognized if you're in
1:59 person you'll step up to the lecturn
2:01 press the button so that the microphone
2:04 shows up red or online um unmute your
2:07 microphone state your name address and
2:10 your relationship to the city speak
2:13 clearly and pause frequently and limit
2:15 your comments to 5 minutes there will be
2:17 a timer if you're attending virtually
2:19 and do not respond after your name or
2:21 phone number is called or if your
2:22 connection is lost unexpectedly the
2:24 meeting will need to proceed you are
2:26 encouraged to rejoin the meeting if able
2:29 personal attack suban language
2:31 derogatory remarks and disruptive
2:33 behavior will not be permitted so clerk
2:35 can you identify the first person who
2:37 has signed up to
2:39 speak sorry yes we have seven
2:42 individuals in the chambers here and two
2:45 uh virtual attendees indicating a desire
2:47 to speak so I'll assume you'll want to
2:49 speak at the top of the meeting here but
2:50 if you'd prefer to wait just let me know
2:52 and I'll skip over you so the first
2:54 person is Sharon Fus
3:08 in the short people position um thank
3:11 you all for the opportunity to speak I'm
3:13 the majority owner of art by fire down
3:16 here on front street where the glass
3:18 blowing studio um as many of you have
3:22 heard the starving artist thing it's
3:24 really true um we are a very small
3:28 business but both my husband and I also
3:31 still have our tech jobs to keep that
3:33 business open so we are very dependent
3:36 on the things that isqua provides in
3:39 order to keep our business open one of
3:42 the big things that has helped us is the
3:44 Downtown isqua
3:46 Association that extra foot traffic they
3:49 bring really helps our business to stay
3:52 running um so I am wanting to urge you
3:55 all to please give it what funding you
3:58 can and a especially take advantage of
4:01 that Main Street tax credit it's a great
4:04 way to stretch the city's budget and
4:07 make the dollars count as much as
4:09 possible um we have been in business
4:11 many years we've had many I've had kids
4:14 that have come to make Christmas
4:16 ornaments that are now adults bringing
4:18 their own kids um and we really love it
4:22 here when we were moving here we looked
4:25 all around the area and this quaint
4:27 downtown is What attracted us to by our
4:30 home in isqua and then we ended up
4:32 purchasing the business when the owners
4:35 retired um and we've often said that if
4:39 it was off in some industrial park or
4:40 something we wouldn't be at all
4:42 interested in having it it is that
4:45 downtown quaintness that's provided by
4:48 the flower baskets the events the artw
4:50 walks the wine walks and all the
4:52 different things that we that Dia
4:55 provides so um as much as we can we've
4:58 volunteered over the years art and I
5:00 have both been on their board at various
5:02 times um and you know even though we're
5:05 both working two jobs we try to make
5:07 time for it because it really does make
5:10 an impact both to our community and to
5:12 our business so thank you all for your
5:14 time I appreciate
5:16 it thanks Sharon and next art F art
5:30 good evening I'm here to to also speak
5:33 in support of you know the missions that
5:35 the city and Dia do together
5:38 and there's that emotional part that
5:41 Sharon talked about um we have families
5:44 that always do two Christmas trees and
5:46 the one Christmas tree is nothing but
5:48 ornaments they've made at the shop and
5:51 there's multiple families that do that
5:54 we've had everything
5:56 from Girl Scouts we have taught glass
5:59 flowing to uh a woman and her sister who
6:02 were blind we've had people who need you
6:06 know wheelchairs for assistance blow
6:09 glass it is a unique it is a special
6:13 thing that is frankly dying out in this
6:17 area a lot of glass Studios have gone
6:19 under particularly during the co time
6:23 frame what Dia and the city have brought
6:26 to us is an ability to reach out an
6:29 ability to have more financial resources
6:33 and
6:34 stability um when we have art walks or
6:37 when we have particularly isaad does
6:40 apples or you know the other
6:42 events we're pretty much guaranteed
6:45 anywhere from uh anywhere from 75%
6:49 greater Revenue those days or nights to
6:52 over 100%
6:53 Revenue um we've had Revenue during
6:56 esquad apples that has equal
7:00 and maybe a little more than our average
7:03 days at salm days so the impact our
7:07 business was huge the um streetery
7:11 during
7:13 covid and that kept us alive that gave
7:16 us a really you know a Lifeline that we
7:19 desperately needed because we were non
7:21 essential we were closed down for
7:23 months and it's it's a huge deal to shut
7:27 down a glass shop because it's 5 to 7
7:30 days when you shut down and it's 5 to 7
7:33 days to bring it back up otherwise the
7:35 furnace doesn't
7:36 live so really DIA has given us an
7:39 ability to reach out to so many more
7:41 people it's given us the ability
7:44 to give jobs to our staff we have you
7:49 know our full-time lead artist we have
7:53 two assistants we have another lead
7:56 glass blower we have an internet
7:58 salesperson
8:00 we're looking right now for a gallery
8:01 assistant but we also have a gallery
8:03 assistant these people have jobs these
8:07 people have more security because of the
8:10 help we get from the city and and
8:13 Via so anything you can do to you know
8:17 invigorate and help that mission is
8:21 really important to us it's important to
8:25 I don't really want to say customers
8:27 because so many of them are more like
8:28 friends it's important to our friends of
8:31 the shop and it's important you know to
8:34 us as you know stewards of something
8:37 that could go
8:38 away thank you very much have a good
8:42 evening thanks
8:44 art I'm sure there's going to be
8:46 somebody else coming after you I think
8:48 so uh who do we have next Kaye Jake
8:56 kayy hi my name is Kaylee Jake I'm the
8:59 executive director of the garage my
9:01 address is 2476 Southeast 30th Street
9:04 samamish
9:07 98075 um so I just I have a couple
9:10 things that I wanted to say tonight and
9:12 one is I wanted to thank you all for
9:15 listening to the teens from the garage
9:18 um last time they spoke about Metroflex
9:20 this is a really important service um
9:23 that provides transportation for the
9:25 teens that come to the garage so that
9:27 they can swing by and
9:30 you know access anything from a cup of
9:31 coffee to meeting with their case
9:34 manager mental health therapist before
9:36 they go home or it also allows them to
9:39 come down before they go to their job so
9:42 and then we um we have teens that are
9:44 outside of our city but are able to
9:46 access us because of Metroflex so this
9:49 is just an amazing service that you all
9:51 have brought and I just want to thank
9:53 you for putting it back into the budget
9:55 for this next year and I also want to
9:58 thank you all
9:59 um a couple of you attended our
10:02 community event last week and I cannot
10:05 say how much that means to them um our
10:08 community event was on Civics and um
10:12 they had a lot of thoughts and
10:14 feelings um but to be heard from their
10:17 local city government um so for you all
10:20 to take that time is just really
10:23 impactful and I just want to thank you
10:25 for
10:27 that thanks Kaylee
10:30 and who's next on our sign up list Aaron
10:34 lery
10:41 Aaron hi everyone sorry I didn't know
10:44 that I had signed up but of course I
10:46 have things to say um Aon longi I am a
10:49 resident of Northbend Washington but a
10:52 longtime um worker in the nonprofit um
10:57 landscape in isqua it's the only place
10:59 I've worked in Washington it does feel
11:01 like my second home um echoing kayle's
11:04 thoughts um I want to thank the council
11:06 for I'm currently working at the garage
11:09 and I want to thank the council for
11:11 their time in consideration in thinking
11:14 through the Metroflex um Kaylee already
11:17 Illustrated why that's such an important
11:19 service we have a team um here today
11:22 who's going to do so I also want to
11:25 thank you all for your work on the
11:28 budget um this is a really hard
11:31 Enterprise it's thankless in many ways
11:34 um and Human Services appreciates the
11:38 time and consideration that you put into
11:41 your Partnerships in the in the
11:43 community it really means a lot um and
11:46 thank you for doing this hard work at a
11:48 less than optimal time thank you thanks
11:52 sarin and Tisha who's our next Simon
11:56 field Simon come on up
12:04 good evening um my name is Simon Fields
12:07 I am a resident of the city of samamish
12:09 um however I am um in isqua two to three
12:13 times a week um to visit the garage it
12:15 is a critical resource for teens such as
12:19 myself to access um like kayy said
12:22 anything from a cup of coffee to a case
12:24 manager um I am very thankful to city
12:28 council for for extending for renewing
12:30 the services provided by Metroflex um
12:33 that allow me often to get from the
12:35 plateau to here um to use those Services
12:39 um and I can only urge you to continue
12:42 to renew that so that teens that their
12:45 adults are busy or they don't have a car
12:47 or the bus is not working well um can be
12:50 able to access those Services thank you
12:53 very
12:53 much thanks Simon appreciate it and
12:58 Corby cast
12:59 Orby come on
13:06 again hi I'm Corby castler I'm the
13:08 executive director of The Downtown isqua
13:10 Association um I wanted to clarify some
13:14 things around what a Main Street
13:15 Community is I am Main Street our
13:18 businesses our hundreds of volunteers
13:20 are Main Street it's comprised of the
13:23 community so it's not an enti entity
13:25 that gets membership or derives any
13:27 benefit from outside funding funding our
13:29 funding comes from our tax credit
13:32 incentive program from the state it
13:34 comes from donations from businesses um
13:36 the city has availed itself of the tax
13:38 credit program as have a number of our
13:40 businesses so I just wanted to be clear
13:42 that DIA has been a Main Street
13:44 Community since its Inception nearly
13:46 since it Inception 30 years ago so if
13:49 you have any more Main Street questions
13:51 please contact me I want to thank the
13:53 city for rethinking the funding of Dia I
13:57 understand coming in that there was
13:58 going to be no funding for 2025 and it
14:01 since has changed I don't know the
14:02 details I haven't seen it yet I'll stay
14:04 for the meeting and learn more I really
14:07 appreciate it because I know there have
14:09 been some issues for the last 5 years
14:12 before my time and I just want to make
14:13 sure that we're moving forward not
14:16 looking back and making sure we're all
14:18 doing our best to serve our small
14:20 family-owned businesses it scares me the
14:23 thought of what happens to a downtown
14:25 when the lights are off and some of the
14:27 lights will be off literally the holiday
14:29 lights will be off and I know again I'm
14:32 so appreciative of the work that has to
14:34 be done with the budget I have to manage
14:36 my own budget I'm very cognizant of what
14:38 we need to do I just want to make sure
14:40 there are a couple things that we
14:42 consider when we consider the budget one
14:45 is the tax credit incentive program just
14:47 make sure that we are doing everything
14:49 we can to keep those monies in isqua 25
14:53 cents on the dollar if the city puts 25
14:57 cents from the operating fund into
14:59 budget 75 cents goes back to to the
15:03 Downtown isqua Association and those
15:05 small businesses rather than the utility
15:07 tax going back to Olympia I just want to
15:10 keep it local and that's what Main
15:12 Street intended when they created the
15:13 program the other thing is we can do
15:17 this and I know that we have some work
15:19 to do and the city and Dia need to come
15:22 together in a lot of ways and
15:24 collaborate we we can't do it alone
15:27 nobody can do this alone and with budget
15:29 cuts I think it's important for
15:31 governments to lean on nonprofits that's
15:34 what we're here for we can add the value
15:36 at very little cost we're all volunteers
15:39 I'm the only paid staff member so we do
15:42 it very leanly and cleanly we we want to
15:45 make sure that we stay agile we stay
15:47 responsive to the businesses and to all
15:49 of our stakeholders so please consider
15:52 the tax credit and Center program and
15:54 making sure that we keep those monies
15:56 here locally thank you thanks kby and
16:00 who else do we have signed up Barbara
16:01 Mayfield Barbara come on
16:06 up my name is Barbara Mayfield my name
16:09 is Barbara Mayfield I reside in
16:11 Northbend but I have family in the esqua
16:13 highlands and grandkids that attend
16:15 Grand rdge so I'm very familiar there
16:18 and I own a business in the Downtown
16:20 isqua Plaza I think it's that way so you
16:23 can practically see it from your
16:25 Chambers I moved into that uh spot from
16:30 Western isqua I was over in the the uh
16:34 Cascade Business Park I'm sorry uh
16:38 beforehand and moved in there in March
16:42 February March of
16:43 2023 the very first day that I moved in
16:47 I went to a Dia general meeting annual
16:50 meeting down at uh the
16:53 sellers and I was so impressed by their
16:56 plans for activities throughout the
16:58 downtown Corps
16:59 that I just was amazed at what they
17:03 provided and wished I'd known what they
17:04 provided before I had signs made and
17:07 things like that because they do provide
17:10 networking for us downtown business
17:12 owners
17:14 uh during the summer months of 2023 I
17:18 hosted I was one of the hosts for the
17:21 wine walks and the amount of business
17:24 the amount of people that they brought
17:25 into my doors that would never have seen
17:27 me were a long arm quilting machine
17:30 showroom which is kind of a
17:33 unicorn there's not very many of us
17:35 around my business since I moved to
17:38 Downtown isqua Plaza has increased at
17:41 least
17:42 25% over the other side of
17:45 isqua um and I'm very happy where I'm at
17:48 I would be sad to see the amount of
17:51 people that get to see what goes on in
17:54 downtown
17:55 isqua um be stopped because the activ
17:58 ities have to stop I do plead with you
18:02 to continue to fund DIA to the best
18:04 extent that you
18:06 can uh I support them myself
18:10 financially and I really would love to
18:13 see you be able to do that uh on behalf
18:16 of the businesses I plan to be here for
18:19 a full 10 years so thank you very much
18:22 for
18:23 listening thanks
18:25 Barbara and do we have anybody signed up
18:28 Rob Peters Rob come on
18:35 up thanks for uh your time um I own a uh
18:40 landscaping and Lighting Company my
18:42 company does the uh lighting for isqua
18:45 the last few years and we also do
18:46 Northbend and Fall City um I moved here
18:50 about 22 years ago and uh one of the
18:53 things we loved about the town when we
18:55 moved here was the uh hanging baskets my
18:57 wife loved it we were from Texas and
19:00 like you just can't get flowers to grow
19:02 like that um and she that was just the
19:04 most amazing thing she had ever seen and
19:06 you know I found out that Dia did that
19:08 and
19:09 um and uh I had a lighting business for
19:13 uh 35 years and I've always wanted to
19:16 get back and I was like why don't we
19:18 light this city it would just be so
19:21 beautiful and uh he reached out to me uh
19:25 we were able to make it happen and um
19:29 another thing is that
19:31 um you know when I work with Northbend
19:34 they have a a real Cooperative uh
19:36 relationship with the Chamber of
19:37 Commerce actually uh partner with
19:41 everything with them with their lighting
19:42 when they do that and it just doesn't
19:44 seem like it's the same with uh with the
19:46 uh in the city of isqua so I'm hoping
19:49 that that can get rectified and
19:53 um the uh I know that working with the
19:57 that uh every that they take they're
20:00 super super Frugal and with all the
20:03 volunteers uh I volunteer and do the
20:06 Shell station still uh we're going to do
20:08 it this year uh without Dia that
20:10 wouldn't happen so I just think it's
20:13 something that should be continued as
20:15 long as possible and if you can do what
20:17 you can to fund it that'd be great thank
20:19 you thanks Rob you have anybody else
20:23 signed up to
20:24 speak yes we have at least one virtual
20:28 attendee the first is Robert Lurch and
20:31 Robert I've just made you a panelist so
20:33 you should now see an option to unmute
20:35 and you can also choose to turn your
20:36 video on if you'd
20:40 like sorry was that for
20:42 me it sure was you're up yes thanks
20:45 awesome well good evening Council uh my
20:48 name is Robert Lurch and I am one of the
20:50 owners of pickles Playland uh we're a
20:53 Doggy Daycare located downtown we've
20:54 been down there for about a year and if
20:57 you've heard me speak before you'll know
20:58 that we have have three locations one in
21:00 Redmond one in Kirkland and like I said
21:01 the one in isqua and uh I lived in isqua
21:04 for 20 years both my kids graduated from
21:06 isqua high school and uh so I have this
21:10 big affinity for the community and I'm
21:13 here to speak about the DIA and its
21:15 impact on our business uh I've mentioned
21:18 before that even though we've been in
21:19 Kirkland and Redmond for better part of
21:21 six years we're not affiliated with any
21:23 of the programs or the the the
21:26 nonprofits in those communities but we
21:28 are all in Ona when I say we I mean my
21:31 my partner and I are both committee
21:33 members um we opened our doors to host
21:36 events and um the reason we're all in on
21:40 Dia is because DIA has been Allin on us
21:42 before we even signed our lease
21:45 Christina reached out to us and said
21:47 what can we do meaning DIA to make
21:51 introductions to give you resources to
21:54 help you with permitting and that's
21:55 something that that was revelatory we've
21:57 never experiened at least I've never
21:59 experienced that in my business
22:00 Community where I had somebody who
22:01 reached out to me that not looking for
22:03 money but just merely looking to help
22:05 and it wasn't just a platitude because
22:07 the minute we opened our doors Christina
22:09 was knocking on our door quite literally
22:10 to come in and saying okay what can we
22:12 do as far signage what do you need from
22:15 us and we've never had that support from
22:18 any other organizations uh not I'm not
22:20 going to try to throw chamber of commer
22:22 under the buser it's just an anomaly to
22:24 have somebody who cares in a in an
22:27 organization that cares that much for
22:29 the small businesses we really felt it
22:32 and give you a an example um I just
22:35 ended a social media campaign for our
22:37 isqu location so spent a $155,000 on a
22:40 social media expert did being searches
22:43 Google searches and I just finished it
22:46 and the net result was that I earned
22:50 five times more clients from D events
22:53 and I did for spending $155,000 on
22:55 Facebook ads and so that really and over
22:59 and above just the money it it's been um
23:02 it's a bit of um it's not even
23:04 hyperbolic to say that I've probably
23:05 spoken with a thousand residents in
23:08 downtown isqua by opening our doors up
23:11 to the wine walks to the art walks to
23:14 the um isago apples to all those events
23:18 we've met so many people in the
23:20 community who just want to come in and
23:21 chat about dogs or wine or whatever uh
23:25 truly feel like we're a part of the
23:26 community and that's indicative of the
23:29 impact that Dia had so much so that for
23:32 the last couple of months everyone in my
23:34 location has been collecting toys and um
23:38 and clothes for both humans and for dogs
23:41 so we were going to have uh the first
23:43 time ever we were going to put on and we
23:45 did just put it on last weekend a family
23:47 giving event and of course we held it in
23:50 issaqua so although we were collecting
23:52 toys and clothes and kirkin and Redmond
23:55 we distributed them in isqua and the
23:57 toys that that we have left over we're
23:59 donating to the issaqua food bank so
24:03 that's just a sort of a a minor uh
24:06 indication of our our our really our
24:10 warmth for the community and again that
24:12 has been part and parcel to the warmth
24:14 that DIA has has extended to us we've
24:17 only been there for a year although like
24:18 I said I've lived in isqua for 20 years
24:20 but again we feel closer and more tied
24:22 in to isqua than we do in any other
24:25 community and so one of the reasons
24:28 we're we're as successful we have been
24:31 is because we we know we have this
24:33 relationship that's bigger than us um
24:36 and the fact that we
24:38 are you know providing a service that
24:41 people award-winning service that people
24:43 like to the citizens of isqua the fact
24:46 that we're paying property tax and and
24:48 uh you know excise tax we're employing
24:51 people and doing things like this giving
24:54 uh uh bizaar that we had this weekend is
24:57 um really is in large part to our um our
25:00 relationship with Dia so again I know
25:03 your job is difficult I do every single
25:05 day I'm allocating resources amongst my
25:08 businesses and trying to make it sure
25:09 that we're successful uh but if you
25:12 please consider sort of the the the the
25:15 ancillary benefits supporting an
25:17 organization like Dia um in your
25:19 budgeting discussions um I would greatly
25:22 appreciate it thanks for your time
25:24 Council thank you
25:26 Robert and clerk to we have anyone else
25:29 indicating a desire to speak um
25:32 virtually I'm going to check in real
25:33 quick with Brian runberg I know he'd
25:35 like to make comments on the
25:36 comprehensive plan and let me see if
25:38 he'd like to do that now or later in the
25:41 meeting so Brian you've just been made a
25:43 panelist and would you like to make your
25:45 comments
25:48 now and we're having some trouble
25:50 hearing
25:54 you we can see you
26:01 still can't hear
26:09 you
26:15 no no nope you keep trying we appreciate
26:21 that yeah why don't we see if there's
26:23 anybody in the chamber or online that
26:25 wants to make a comment while you work
26:28 on your audio and we'll see if we can
26:29 check back in with
26:31 you um so I will just take a moment and
26:34 see if there's anybody on hand um that
26:38 has not spoken that would be interested
26:41 speak not seeing anybody in person I'll
26:45 just check in um there can you hear me
26:48 now yes we can great oh wonderful
26:51 wonderful thank you sorry about that um
26:54 thank you um I'm uh Brian runberg I'm
26:57 the principal the runberg architecture
26:59 group and um I also own the property at
27:02 1085 Lake Drive formerly the Red Robin
27:06 over in Pickering uh Pickering place and
27:10 um I'm commenting tonight on the
27:12 comprehensive plan periodic update um we
27:16 as you are aware and and we've been went
27:19 through with the group here with uh the
27:21 Pioneer project status and I appreciate
27:24 appreciate that process um and we're
27:27 attempting to redevelop the
27:28 um into much needed mixed use multif
27:31 family housing in central
27:33 isqua um the central esqua vision is
27:37 defined as where people live work Play
27:40 and Learn however there's no living no
27:43 housing on the north side of the I90
27:45 within the urban core boundary and what
27:48 we're experiencing now there's there's
27:50 no there's current challenges we we're
27:53 experiencing in producing this housing
27:55 um due to a um
27:58 the code is overly prescriptive and has
28:01 inherent conflicts that haven't been
28:03 exposed or applied to the industry I
28:05 think we're the first project going
28:07 through second compounding that is
28:10 inflexibility there isn't um or does not
28:12 seem to be any mechanism within the code
28:15 to accommodate flexibility such as
28:18 alternative equivalent path to meet the
28:20 intent of the code where what we usually
28:23 experience in in most cities
28:24 administrative departures or director
28:27 decisions
28:28 um the only path available for a
28:30 majority land use code in isqua
28:32 currently is a variance process uh which
28:35 the staff does not feel empowered to
28:38 deploy even when situations meet the
28:40 variance
28:42 criteria um we feel the the
28:44 comprehensive plan is the right vehicle
28:46 to establish the policy intent to allow
28:48 code flexibility and an off-ramp for
28:51 some of the
28:52 city's uh overly prescriptive design
28:54 standards that conflict um with the
28:57 inherent over all comp plan policies and
28:59 I'll give you one example we have dozens
29:01 and dozens of them that we've uncovered
29:04 but uh land use policy A2 States ensure
29:07 the development regulations including
29:09 allowed density uses and site
29:12 requirements support isqua's preferred
29:14 land use pattern so um what what we
29:19 would suggest um and propose is
29:22 adding a line in the in in the in the
29:25 comp plan Amendment here is quotequote
29:28 to provide administrative flexibility to
29:30 deviate from building standards to
29:33 achieve these goals um we can submit
29:35 these in writing tomorrow and welcome a
29:37 dialogue around how the comp plan should
29:40 encourage flexibility so that going
29:41 forward the city is able to better reach
29:43 its goals in particularly in central
29:45 isqua so thank you for the opportunity
29:48 to speak and present that to
29:49 you thanks
29:51 Brian and I'll just check I know we've
29:54 checked in person but is there anybody
29:57 else on online that might be indicating
29:59 a desire to speak no okay fantastic well
30:04 we heard from bunch of folks which is
30:08 always appreciated we always encourage
30:10 your uh involvement and um hearing from
30:14 the perspective of Dia businesses and
30:18 executive director as well as um people
30:22 from the garage and students there um
30:25 and then someone on the comp place and
30:28 just really appreciate everyone's
30:30 perspective on that so we've got a busy
30:35 um agenda this evening you're welcome to
30:37 stay but you know you don't have to if
30:39 you don't want to so looking on to the
30:44 next um agenda item we've got Comm 0040
30:48 comprehensive plan periodic update and
30:51 this is presented by Steven Padua
30:53 planning
30:56 manager thank you council president W
30:58 good evening council members so tonight
31:01 I'm going to present on the
31:02 comprehensive plan as amended and
31:03 proposed in tonight's packet uh the
31:06 purpose is to go
31:08 over at a high level all the Amendments
31:10 that we're proposing for the periodic
31:12 update of the comprehensive plan and to
31:14 solicit any additional amendments from
31:16 city council and discussion tonight so
31:19 the One Direction needed for tonight is
31:22 does city council
31:23 want any additional amendments to
31:26 recommend as P of the plan prior to
31:32 adoption a little background information
31:34 for the comprehensive plan so the beyond
31:37 the purpose of being the city's
31:39 highlevel guiding policy guiding
31:41 document the comprehensive plan um meets
31:43 a series of requirements from the
31:45 Washington State growth management act
31:48 the conference plan addresses Urban
31:50 growth and um Economic Development
31:53 Regional Transportation and
31:54 infrastructure needs preservation of uh
31:57 open space affordable housing and public
31:59 participation in the planning process in
32:02 City Planning
32:05 processes and um what we call this is
32:08 the planning framework for the city is
32:09 squa the comprehensive plan provides
32:11 guidance to many of our functional plans
32:14 or topic areas where we identify
32:16 implementation and uh identification of
32:19 actions and prioritization of resources
32:22 when it comes to implementation of
32:24 different topic areas and all those
32:26 functional plans feed into
32:28 implementation and financing in our
32:30 strategic plan which you're going to
32:31 hear more about later tonight as well as
32:34 the city budget and and many of our
32:37 regulations in municipal code and then
32:40 come full circle our performance metrics
32:42 we take a look at how we're doing how
32:44 we're gauging our performance in all
32:46 those topic areas which brings us back
32:48 to the comprehensive plan to make any
32:51 necessary adjustments to make sure that
32:53 we're achieving what we want to achieve
32:54 over
32:56 time so for this periodic update we're
32:59 proposing nine elements um I'll go over
33:02 each of them um a little later in this
33:04 presentation but for the most part uh
33:08 there are three elements that aren't
33:10 necessarily required by the state and
33:12 the city has chosen to incorporate these
33:14 elements as priority topic areas to
33:17 identify and and discuss as the city
33:20 continues to grow the human services and
33:23 the arts and culture elements are two of
33:25 those elements that the city has decided
33:26 to add and to the conference plan as we
33:28 consider growth and the environment
33:32 climate element is is identified a
33:33 little bit differently because it's
33:36 technically not required yet but per
33:38 House Bill 1181 it will be required by
33:41 the city in 2029 but because by the
33:44 amazing work done by our sustainability
33:47 staff we're ahead we have all the
33:50 elements that are required at least as
33:52 we know of for House Bill 1181 to comply
33:55 with what's required from that bill in
33:57 2029
34:01 so for the process for the periodic of
34:03 day you can kind of look at in two
34:04 different phases for the first phase
34:07 staff looked at each of the individual
34:08 elements to identify any required
34:10 changes from the state the region or the
34:13 county um but also look at our system
34:16 plan updates or our functional plan
34:18 updates to see if we're addressing any
34:19 required changes within functional plans
34:22 in the different topic areas once staff
34:26 assessed the different Heth elements we
34:28 went to the respective Boards of
34:30 commissions and the council committees
34:32 to propose different policy questions
34:35 and then we refined refined each of the
34:37 elements before getting to phase two
34:39 which was the assembly for the U the
34:42 latest phase for the comence plan which
34:44 was fully reviewed by the planning
34:45 policy commission and the Planning
34:47 Development environment Council
34:49 committee which brings us today for
34:50 final review with f city
34:54 council the general themes for the
34:57 comperat Plan update we had three
34:59 different areas the first being
35:02 identifying and assessing all the
35:04 different state requirements that have
35:06 been put in place since our last
35:08 periodic update in
35:10 2015 we made major changes to our
35:14 housing policies and the direction we
35:16 want to go with housing we made a lot of
35:18 changes as it relates to the environment
35:21 natural natural environment and climate
35:23 um addressing climate change we also
35:26 looked at uh addressing
35:28 access and um the amount of services
35:32 provided were not provided for
35:33 disadvantaged
35:35 communities across the board we also
35:37 looked at divers diversity Equity
35:39 inclusion values within all the policy
35:42 and goal areas and all the different
35:43 elements and then we also looked at the
35:45 functional plans to make sure that we
35:47 were consistent in the terminology that
35:48 we're using but also in the strategies
35:51 for how we are addressing each of the
35:53 different topic
35:55 areas the last piece we looked at for
35:58 the comprehensive Plan update was design
35:59 and access So currently the
36:02 comprehensive plan is identified in
36:03 multiple different PDFs on the city
36:06 website that a lot of people have a
36:08 little difficulty accessing but also
36:10 using so what we're planning to do and
36:13 and something that we decided to do in
36:15 early on which influenced the design of
36:17 the comprehensive plan is we want to put
36:19 it on the code publishing platform with
36:21 our municipal code and what this allows
36:24 us to do is make it a little bit easier
36:25 to search but also adds more search
36:27 functionality to how we're using the
36:29 comprehensive plan for Community MERS
36:31 braful staff it also allows us to create
36:34 links with our Municipal Code so that
36:36 any references to the comprehensive plan
36:38 has a direct link where that's
36:40 identified in the
36:45 compy now I'm going to just provide a
36:48 brief overview for each of the sections
36:49 of the conference plan for the
36:52 introduction we primarily simplified it
36:54 we really wanted to dive into what does
36:56 the comprehensive plan provide us whilst
36:58 telling the story of who this this city
37:02 is and who we want to be as part of this
37:04 conference plan planning process it
37:07 outlines the process for the periodic
37:09 update and then it identifies the
37:11 Strategic plan guiding principles to
37:13 link with the implementation and
37:14 performance metrics on how we want to
37:17 gauge our performance for
37:21 implementation for the land use and
37:23 sustainability element we
37:27 paired the changes with this element
37:30 with the creation of the new environment
37:31 and climate element because many of the
37:34 policies that created the new
37:35 environment and climate element came
37:37 from our existing land use element so we
37:40 split it in half created the two
37:41 separate elements and then we went
37:44 through each of the policies and goal
37:46 areas for the land use sustainability
37:48 event to make sure Equity was being
37:50 addressed to make sure that our housing
37:52 and job targets are
37:55 identified we also moved several
37:57 policies to environment element as part
37:59 of the discussions with an environmental
38:00 board and planning policy commission and
38:03 then with land use sustainability we
38:04 considered a rezone redesignation of
38:06 City Hall Northwest
38:10 property so for the redesignation rezone
38:13 of the city property also known as City
38:15 Hall Northwest we proposed the rezone of
38:18 community facilities facilities to Urban
38:22 Corp and a redesignation from Community
38:25 faes to mix use and this was vied by the
38:27 hearing examiner and the hearing
38:30 examiner is recommending and supporting
38:32 the staff recommendation for the rezone
38:35 and the
38:39 redesignation for the housing element we
38:42 a lot of the changes were in compliance
38:44 with multiple several State mandates
38:47 around housing the first being House
38:49 Bill 1220 which looked at emergency
38:52 permanent Supportive Housing positional
38:54 housing and Emergency Shelters so we
38:56 added new policies and modified policies
38:59 to support many of the changes that went
39:01 into this and earlier this year city
39:03 council adopted code updates that
39:05 allowed a lot of these uses to fully
39:08 comply with house
39:10 build we also looked at house build 1337
39:13 and 1110 to address middle housing and
39:17 accessory dwelling units or adus to what
39:20 we want out of middle housing and how
39:23 that should go into our regulations
39:25 which is a concurrent project onoy that
39:28 city council will discuss early next
39:31 year additionally we
39:33 also reviewed the policies and ensured
39:36 Equity was being addressed in a lot of
39:38 our housing policies um in combination
39:42 with policy updates to the land use
39:43 element and then we also identified the
39:46 affordable housing targets which was the
39:48 other last component to compliance with
39:50 house spill
39:53 1220 with the transportation element we
39:56 actually updated our Mobility master
39:58 plan only a few years ago so many of
40:01 those goals and policies were more
40:03 recently updated so for this periodic
40:05 update we FOC uh focused a lot of
40:08 efforts around what the recommendations
40:10 came out of the transit studies so
40:11 Transit specific policies to support the
40:15 light rail planning guide as well as our
40:18 uh transit system updates that were
40:20 proposed from the transit study we also
40:23 made changes to comply with House Bill
40:25 1181 which identified
40:27 new level of service standards for
40:30 Transit and then we also identified uh
40:33 goals and policies that looked at equity
40:35 and access as related to non-motorized
40:38 Transportation walking or biking in city
40:44 as and for this new element environment
40:47 climate stewardship we it this we
40:51 created this element primarily to comply
40:52 with House Bill 1181 but by creating
40:56 this element it also emphasizes the
40:58 importance of the natural environment in
40:59 CL and addressing climate change in this
41:01 aqual community which is very apparent
41:04 in the creation of the climate action
41:05 plan the discussions on the resources
41:08 dedicated for how we want to address
41:10 climate change and then it's also
41:13 recognized in the discussions that we
41:16 have been having and continue to have
41:17 with the environmental board on how we
41:19 want to address those two major
41:21 topics and many of the policies were
41:24 pulled from the land use sustainability
41:25 element um but they were still under uh
41:30 we had many discussions with the
41:31 environmental board on how best to make
41:33 amendments to what was already adopted
41:38 before for the arts and culture element
41:41 we primarily made edit uh amendments to
41:44 guide the upcoming development of the
41:47 art strategic plan and added policies to
41:51 specifically uh address the Creative
41:52 Arts
41:55 District for economic vit ality we made
41:58 major updates concurrent with the
42:00 development of the economic development
42:02 action
42:03 plan that this action plan was adopted
42:05 earlier this year and so the goals and
42:07 policies are consistent what was adopted
42:09 by city
42:11 council for the Human Services element
42:14 we primarily just updated what was
42:16 consistent with the Human Services
42:18 strategic plan that was adopted by city
42:20 council less than two years ago and so
42:23 we weren't proposing anything new than
42:25 what was adopted in the Strat
42:30 for the parks element we updated in
42:32 alignment with the update to the what
42:35 was originally the park strategic plan
42:38 and we made name changes to now
42:40 recognize the new name which is the park
42:41 system plan we also made changes to
42:45 identify the creeks and Peaks concept
42:47 which is the expanded uh concept from
42:49 the green
42:54 necklace for utilities public service
42:57 and capital facilities this is actually
42:59 a merge of what was originally two
43:00 different elements and the reason for
43:03 the merge is because we found that both
43:05 elements actually had the same level of
43:07 service standards identified in both and
43:10 so to reduce some of the confusion we
43:12 just merged it into one so that we could
43:14 be more efficient with how we're
43:16 tackling utilities the needs for public
43:19 services and the needs on Capital
43:21 facilities in one element rather than in
43:23 two and we um similar to all the other
43:27 elements we reviewed the language with
43:29 the utility system plans and consistency
43:32 of terminology particularly with the
43:34 environment
43:39 element the appendices for the uh
43:41 comprehensive plan contain all the
43:42 analyses and data and information that
43:44 we used in the development of this
43:50 periodic and then timeline for the
43:52 legislative process leading up to today
43:53 we started with public hearing on August
43:56 22nd with planning policy commission
43:58 they deliberated on the comprehensive
44:00 plan on September 12th we then met with
44:03 the Planning Development environment
44:04 Council committee on September 9th and
44:07 the council committee deliberated on
44:09 October
44:11 1st the final recommendations that came
44:14 from the planning policy commission um
44:17 first included adding discussions in the
44:20 land use
44:21 element updating the policy B6 in the
44:24 land use element and then adding
44:27 environmental justice policy to The
44:29 Climate environment
44:31 element one note from the planning
44:33 policy commission that we wanted to
44:35 identify for city council was that the
44:39 uh attention of the planning policy
44:40 commission was primarily focused on
44:42 goals and policies so they just wanted
44:44 to highlight that they didn't spend as
44:45 much time on the introductions as they
44:47 did on the goals and
44:51 policy with the Planning Development
44:53 environment Council committee they are
44:57 recommended
44:58 approval with final direction listed
45:02 which includes recognizing City history
45:04 and the
45:06 introduction highlighting the commitment
45:08 to the
45:10 environment including the 1993
45:13 values in the
45:16 introduction directly addressing the
45:18 King County affordable housing
45:19 committee's
45:20 recommendations and being more specific
45:23 on neighborhood character and spirit
45:25 this was terminology that we found in
45:27 the comprehensive plan that just see was
45:29 too vague for what we were trying to
45:31 achieve with the comprehensive plan so
45:32 we just provided a little more
45:34 information on what we meant in those
45:41 sections for next steps the next step
45:43 for the comprehensive plan is coming
45:44 back to City Council on December 2nd for
45:46 tentative
45:49 adoption your materials tonight include
45:52 a matrix of changes which identifies all
45:54 the changes we made or proposing for the
45:56 period AC update as well as the reasons
45:59 we are making the change includes a
46:02 public comment Matrix which um contains
46:05 all the virtual public comments staff
46:07 received with staff
46:09 responses there is a document with list
46:12 of all the meetings that were conducted
46:14 in support of development of this
46:15 periodic
46:17 update you also have an letter from the
46:19 environmental board um with their
46:21 recommendations and highlights from this
46:23 periodic update process and IT staff
46:26 also includ included a staff response uh
46:28 table at the end of that
46:31 letter there's also a letter from the
46:33 Planning Development Council
46:35 committee on their recommendations for
46:37 the comprehensive plan
46:39 amendments there's the King County
46:41 affordable housing committee
46:43 letter there is the summary of decision
46:46 for the redesignation and rezone uh from
46:49 the hearing
46:50 examiner he also included a executive
46:53 summary for the environmental impact
46:55 statement for the comprehensive plan
46:57 primarily because the environmental imp
47:00 environmental impact statement isn't
47:02 necessarily a document that Council
47:05 adopts but it's more supplemental to
47:07 this comprehensive plan so we just want
47:09 to identify what was in that in a
47:11 summary
47:13 docum you also have the draft ordinance
47:15 for adoption of the comprehensive plan
47:18 and you have the draft comprehensive
47:20 plan in in multiple
47:23 exhibits so the administration
47:25 recommends approval of the comence
47:27 planned amendments has presented to city
47:31 council so this brings me back to my
47:34 direction need slide does city council
47:36 have any additional amendments for the
47:38 conference excellent um I'm trying to
47:41 remember at this point do we get
47:45 commentary from PD chair or does that
47:47 come after question and
47:50 answer okay fantastic chair hunt the in
47:55 thank you council president wsh
47:57 um there is a letter as one of the uh
48:00 one of several attachments with this
48:02 item in our packet tonight that is a
48:04 letter um uh by myself on behalf of our
48:10 um Council committee that reviewed this
48:12 over the course of multiple meetings um
48:15 I will preface this with Council uh
48:18 president Walsh and council member Hall
48:20 if there's anything I miss please uh as
48:22 always let me know um and uh correct me
48:26 if I uh mate anything we reviewed this
48:30 over several meetings and um as was
48:33 mentioned in
48:34 Steven's uh update here we focused on
48:38 making sure that um first of all
48:41 compliance was was met there are many um
48:46 many requirements by different agencies
48:48 that the comprehensive plan has to has
48:50 to clear and so uh we wanted to make
48:52 sure that we were meeting all of those
48:54 requirements we also focused on consist
48:57 with other plans there have been many
48:59 updates over the last several years to
49:02 city um to City functional plans and
49:07 things like the isqua climate action
49:09 plan um as well as the uh Regional plans
49:14 the state growth management act Regional
49:16 plan uh Vision 2050 and then King County
49:19 Planning policies so all of those were
49:22 considered and all of those policies
49:24 were aligned within our comp
49:26 comprehensive plan then there were many
49:30 uh multiple state laws that we reviewed
49:34 and I think for me the focus here was
49:37 there were state laws that we were
49:38 required to consider certain things like
49:40 Emergency Shelters um and new targets
49:43 for housing uh to meet housing um to in
49:48 increase the supply of housing for folks
49:50 at different income levels for example
49:52 and so for our committee we focused on
49:55 these are state law requirements how do
49:58 we make sure that we're providing
49:59 guidance that's is aest specific to help
50:02 future policy makers to help the
50:04 planning policy commission um guide us
50:07 in how we can achieve the intent of
50:09 these laws in a way that is specific to
50:12 our circumstance here in
50:14 isaga um there was the the Emergency
50:17 Shelters one which was HB uh 1220 there
50:21 were also multiple missing M missing
50:23 middle housing bills that um were passed
50:28 and we took those into account how how
50:30 we can make sure that we achieve that
50:32 goal of increasing the missing middle
50:34 housing which is in between large uh
50:39 multif family apartment buildings but um
50:41 also not single detached family homes so
50:44 uh duplex Triplex fourplex and
50:47 adus and then um
50:50 additionally we came into compliance
50:53 early with HB
50:55 1181 which was the the climate action
50:57 planning provision um that is because of
51:01 the great work of our volunteer
51:03 commission and our our community and of
51:06 staff and this Council in adopting our
51:08 isqua climate action plan and really set
51:10 us up for being able to comply with that
51:12 law early we also uh complied with our
51:15 various functional plans including our
51:17 housing uh strategy action plan um in
51:21 addition to the multiple other
51:23 functional plans across the city in our
51:26 last last meeting we also addressed
51:29 terminology while we do hearken back to
51:32 the 1993 values for example we wanted to
51:34 make sure that we were using modern
51:36 terminology that we were referring to
51:39 community um Aesthetics but recognizing
51:42 that over time our city is changing and
51:45 so wanting to make sure that we were
51:48 recognizing that with the terminology
51:50 that we used and that we were also using
51:52 terminology that um reflected the
51:54 diversity and the growing diversity of
51:56 our community and then as has been
51:58 mentioned we also reviewed it with an
51:59 eye to readability wanting to make sure
52:01 that folks could access um the
52:03 information they wanted easily and
52:06 quickly throughout the document um
52:08 recognizing that most folks will be
52:10 searching for the part of this very
52:12 large document that they specifically
52:14 want to key
52:16 into um few other notes we did agree
52:21 with the majority of policy changes
52:23 recommended by the city advisory boards
52:26 one in particular was mentioned that I
52:27 just wanted to note for Council which
52:30 was land use B6 um and that has to do
52:34 with coming into agreement with our tree
52:38 um tree protection I believe um but I
52:42 did want to make sure that that was the
52:44 one that we were talking about there um
52:47 we Rec we recommended the majority of
52:49 changes that the planning policy
52:50 commission uh
52:53 recommended we also included
52:55 Environmental board's feedback
52:57 especially about achieving a sustainable
53:00 high quality natural environment and
53:02 going above and beyond what is required
53:04 to protect our natural environment
53:06 recognizing the importance of that in
53:08 isqua we recommended enhancing the
53:12 context around the plan which has been
53:15 reflected in multiple areas adding more
53:18 history adding more context around this
53:21 is where we're going but this is also
53:22 where we have been as a city and um
53:27 and then as I mentioned making sure that
53:29 as we address these you things like the
53:32 King County affordable housing
53:33 committee's recommendations that we're
53:35 including those in a way that is useful
53:38 to current and future policy makers as
53:40 we look to achieve these um goals of
53:43 increasing our affordable housing across
53:45 the
53:46 community
53:47 and all of that is uh summarized in the
53:50 letter we did have multiple meetings um
53:53 to review this as well as the uh prev
53:56 previous Council presentation of this
54:00 and so would happy would be happy to
54:01 take any questions from any council
54:04 members on our our um discussion and
54:07 also again if my fellow colleagues on
54:11 the committee would like to make any
54:12 additions happy to hear those as
54:17 well I think you summarized it quite
54:19 well and we did the hard work so
54:22 hopefully uh that comes through in the
54:25 letter and all of the
54:27 information um so I think at this point
54:30 do you want to put up the question again
54:32 just so that we have that really at this
54:36 point we're looking for questions and
54:38 then we'll get back into feedback so
54:41 we'll start with council member hunt and
54:43 then council member
54:46 Hall yes so uh
54:50 I I
54:51 saw the flag on um policy B6 and and I
54:56 wanted to make sure that that was
54:59 explained and I I do believe that that
55:02 has to do with um
55:04 recognizing um trees in in urban
55:07 environments and those sorts of things
55:09 but I wanted to check in with you if
55:10 that is the correct policy that we're
55:11 referring to yes that's the correct
55:14 policy okay thank
55:17 you so you were just clarifying and then
55:20 you'll have comments
55:21 later uh yes just because that one
55:24 didn't have any um didn't have any
55:27 explanation there yeah fantastic Council
55:29 Mall um thank you for writing the letter
55:33 on our behalf it was very comprehensive
55:35 for the comprehensive plan so I
55:36 appreciate that um so um to clarify I
55:40 thought the I thought the policy that we
55:42 disagreed with PPC on had to do with
55:44 economic vitality and underserved
55:47 communities so can you
55:49 was help me sorry help me understand um
55:54 this other one because I don't I don't
55:56 don't seem to
56:02 remember give me one moment to pull up
56:04 the policy
56:30 uh that seems to be a Tapo on our part
56:34 for the presentation it was you are
56:37 correct it was economic Vitality policy
56:39 A1 that was discussed by the by the
56:41 committee and so the discussion on that
56:44 one was the whether or not to include
56:47 the basically the second half of that
56:50 policy which was a requirement um from
56:53 the regional staff to identify
56:56 how we are providing services to small
57:01 locally local historically lack Capital
57:04 represent underserved communities and at
57:06 risk of displacement and so that was the
57:09 discussion from planning policy
57:10 Commission on whether or not to separate
57:12 that out or not I apologize for the typo
57:15 that you were correct that was that
57:18 that okay I'll look to the other members
57:21 any other
57:23 questions um being brought up okay
57:26 so at this point we have an opportunity
57:29 for any members of the public that want
57:31 to make comments on the comprehensive
57:34 Plan before we give into our feedback so
57:37 I'll just check in online if you're on
57:40 the um smartphone or computer you can
57:43 use the raise hand icon or send the host
57:45 a chat message you're on the phone you
57:47 can press star three you're in person
57:50 you can raise your hand jump up and down
57:53 anything like that we'll look for you um
57:56 is there anybody indicating a desire to
57:58 speak um we had a virtual attendee Glenn
58:01 cuadros who had his hand up for quite
58:03 some time it's possible his comments
58:05 related to another item I'm going to
58:07 check in with Glenn if that's okay
58:10 great so Glenn I've made you a panelist
58:13 if you do have some public comments to
58:14 make tonight you're welcome to do so
58:24 now Glenn just checked checking in with
58:26 you one last time if you did indeed want
58:28 to make some public comments tonight you
58:30 can unmute your microphone and do so
58:37 now okay so he is not unmuting and just
58:41 check here I don't think anyone else
58:44 virtually is indicating a desire to
58:46 speak well we always appreciate that
58:48 you're stepping above and beyond
58:50 monitoring people in between the process
58:52 uh who might be indicating desire to
58:54 speak I will just take a moment to state
58:56 that uh we receive a lot of emails on
58:59 topics like this so if somebody has uh
59:02 comments that they want to make City
59:04 counil at isqua wa.gov um will hit all
59:08 seven of us and we'll get a chance to
59:11 hear your voice and respond so turning
59:14 back to council you know this is just a
59:18 kind of touch point we're not looking to
59:20 adopt anything tonight but I think the
59:23 administration would like to know if
59:25 there is any feedback
59:27 um needed any uh amendments or
59:29 adjustments that we are looking for on
59:31 the comprehensive plan so does anybody
59:34 have any
59:39 comments council member Hall no
59:44 um comments for changes or anything like
59:47 that um I did just want to make sure to
59:50 share some comments of thanks even
59:52 though I'm sure we'll be able to do that
59:53 once we get to the um final adoption I
59:57 just wanted to say once again excellent
59:59 work um a significant amount of time and
1:00:02 effort has gone into updating the
1:00:04 Strategic plan especially after having
1:00:06 just updated title 18 so I hope very
1:00:09 soon you all get to read that sigh of
1:00:11 relief and take a vacation or something
1:00:14 like that um I um thanks again for
1:00:18 writing the letter I did just want to
1:00:19 just say I thought it was interesting
1:00:22 how on the agenda we have the Strategic
1:00:24 plan also and it got me thinking about
1:00:27 well if our strategic plan which is our
1:00:29 5-year vision is let's say the paper
1:00:32 Atlas or something um that you that you
1:00:35 take out the comprehensive plan is
1:00:36 really the Google Maps right the allout
1:00:39 vision for what we want to do in our
1:00:41 community how we get the issaqua that's
1:00:43 on paper that we always talk about um to
1:00:46 come to life so I also just wanted to
1:00:47 recognize the meaning of the work that
1:00:49 you all have put in and just thank you U
1:00:51 for your engagement which will um last
1:00:55 much longer than our lifetimes here in
1:00:57 isqua so again uh thank you very muching
1:01:00 forward to
1:01:03 adopting fantastic well I'll just jump
1:01:06 in on that topic I I
1:01:09 think knock on wood this has been a
1:01:12 really smooth process and a lot of that
1:01:15 is because of the work that we had
1:01:16 already done in our functional plans a
1:01:18 lot of that is because we had done the
1:01:21 work on Title 18 so we're very familiar
1:01:24 with the areas of our code um that
1:01:27 really needed to you know just have a
1:01:31 reference in this um a lot of it is
1:01:33 because the hard work of our boards and
1:01:35 commissions who did the deep deep dive
1:01:39 on so many of these topic
1:01:41 areas and a ton of it is from just the
1:01:45 darn hard work of our staff um who know
1:01:48 our city and our code and our needs very
1:01:51 well and have done done the work on this
1:01:54 um I can also back to previous
1:01:57 comprehensive plans and the fact that we
1:02:00 did the work on the regional growth
1:02:02 Center meant we didn't have some of the
1:02:05 same difficult conversations that other
1:02:09 communities had to have regarding where
1:02:11 we going to up Zone we already know
1:02:14 where that plan is for the city of isqua
1:02:17 and so we were able to kind of roll that
1:02:20 forward and continue just working on the
1:02:23 customization of how do we adapt to all
1:02:25 of the state requirements and all of the
1:02:28 things that we needed to work into this
1:02:32 um and keep it referring to isqua and
1:02:36 keep it um really helping us move that
1:02:38 plan forward so just wanted to throw in
1:02:40 my appreciation do we have any other
1:02:43 comments feedback on
1:02:45 this I think you get a uh oh okay
1:02:49 council member Joe yeah thank you um I
1:02:52 would just like to uh thank you council
1:02:55 president Walsh for your work on the
1:02:57 affordable housing committee um I know
1:03:00 that uh as part of that work you're
1:03:02 you're reviewing the housing element for
1:03:05 each and every uh uh King County HB
1:03:10 County Pierce County and SES County
1:03:13 comprehensive plan we only have to read
1:03:15 one of them but you've read the housing
1:03:17 element for all of them so thank you um
1:03:19 the comments that came back from the
1:03:21 affordable housing committee uh were
1:03:23 helpful to um challenge us to you uh a
1:03:26 little bit more by saying you know
1:03:28 you're doing a great job but here are
1:03:29 some other things to think about and I
1:03:30 appreciate the administration's uh
1:03:33 guidance on how we are going to address
1:03:36 those uh requests or those suggestions
1:03:39 in the next generation of our housing
1:03:41 analysis and Mr P I look forward to uh
1:03:44 seeing that as we go forward as well but
1:03:47 um just wanted to make sure that your
1:03:50 work was not not overlooked in in that
1:03:52 whole process so thank you very much
1:03:55 appreciate that though I will say it's
1:03:57 the King County affordable housing
1:03:58 committee so we are only reviewing for
1:04:01 the cities in King County but yes that
1:04:03 is quite a lot my apologies I I I
1:04:06 mistook you for the psrc yes there you
1:04:09 go there you go but no that that has
1:04:11 been a really good point of being able
1:04:14 to pull in those elements of making sure
1:04:16 that housing at all levels of
1:04:19 affordability is addressed um and I
1:04:23 appreciate that the King
1:04:24 County let's see King
1:04:28 County cpps what is it thank you
1:04:33 countywide planning policies I just I've
1:04:35 heard that so many so many times um you
1:04:39 know that was the first part of it was
1:04:40 adopting the fact that we had to As
1:04:42 Cities support that in our comprehensive
1:04:44 plans and so we're seeing that come
1:04:46 through and uh I think we got a gold
1:04:49 star for uh our ability to address all
1:04:52 of those elements not all of the cities
1:04:54 have so appreciate that from staff as
1:04:57 well do you have everything that you
1:04:59 need yes I do and and I do want to
1:05:01 extend my own thanks to the planning
1:05:03 team who supported and made sure that
1:05:06 this project came out as as successful
1:05:09 as as we see it as and uh Christen Leon
1:05:12 senior planner who looked at uh our land
1:05:14 use and housing and arts and culture and
1:05:17 uh senior Transportation planers uh
1:05:19 Thomas Val Who's online listening in um
1:05:21 he looked at the infrastructure Capital
1:05:23 facilities public uh Public Services and
1:05:26 transportation um and then our associate
1:05:28 planner Valley valer repter looked at
1:05:31 everything else and so we I want to make
1:05:34 sure that I I extend my thanks to them
1:05:36 because a lot of the hard work was done
1:05:37 by them and um we have a great planning
1:05:40 document because of that because of the
1:05:42 amount of effort that the entire team
1:05:44 put into this and so thank you for all
1:05:47 the Gratitude uh but I also want to make
1:05:49 sure they're recognized for their hard
1:05:50 efforts as
1:05:52 well thanks Stephen appreciate it thanks
1:05:56 for passing it
1:05:57 on um okay so that is one of three items
1:06:02 on our agenda tonight uh so the second
1:06:05 item is Comm
1:06:07 0072 the Citywide strategic Plan update
1:06:11 and this is going to be presented by
1:06:12 Dale Mary crimp the assistant to the
1:06:14 city administrator because we don't like
1:06:17 to do anything small on a night we're
1:06:20 taking on all of the big things
1:06:29 good evening city council Dale Mary
1:06:32 crimp assistant to the city
1:06:33 administrator and I am thrilled to be
1:06:35 here tonight uh following on Steven's
1:06:38 coat Tales here he stole a little bit of
1:06:40 my thunder but that's good I think
1:06:42 intentionally uh to share the final
1:06:44 proposed updates to the r isqua
1:06:46 strategic
1:06:48 plan the purpose of this evening is to
1:06:51 present the council with the final draft
1:06:55 of the proposed updates to the our isqua
1:06:57 strategic plan as a reminder this update
1:07:01 focused on the plan's goal area goal
1:07:04 statements objectives and recommended
1:07:07 actions while the the focus on those
1:07:10 three elements did necessitate some
1:07:12 minor updates to the opportunity and
1:07:14 background in each goal area it did not
1:07:18 pertain to and therefore did not
1:07:20 consider any updates to the Mission
1:07:23 Vision guiding principle
1:07:26 nor any changes to the goal area
1:07:28 categories
1:07:31 themselves this evening um the
1:07:34 administration is requesting that the
1:07:35 council review this final draft
1:07:38 recommended update and make fi any final
1:07:41 recommendations specifically does the
1:07:43 council agree with the policy Direction
1:07:46 outlined in the recommended update and
1:07:49 are there any additional additional
1:07:51 revisions or additions that the council
1:07:53 would like to see included in this final
1:07:55 stage ahead of approval and
1:08:01 adoption my favorite slide it's becoming
1:08:03 one that I'm going to be sad when I
1:08:04 don't have presentations that includes
1:08:06 this slide um but for as a refresher and
1:08:10 then for anyone in the audience who
1:08:11 hasn't uh seen me present this slide
1:08:14 before uh our first uh isqua strategic
1:08:18 plan the our isqua strategic plan was
1:08:20 adopted in 2019 following an 18-month
1:08:24 Community engagement
1:08:26 process through that process uh the plan
1:08:29 was developed and it provides leadership
1:08:31 both the administration and the city
1:08:33 council with a highlevel policy
1:08:35 Direction reflected in the six schal
1:08:38 areas um with between originally between
1:08:42 one and five objectives per goal area
1:08:44 and a number of aligned potential
1:08:46 actions for each
1:08:48 objective there was always a plan to
1:08:51 revisit the plan after 5 years and
1:08:55 therefore updating the Strategic plan
1:08:57 became one of Mayor Paulie's top 2024
1:09:02 priorities early in this year 2024 the
1:09:06 mayor selected members to a community
1:09:08 task force three of whom are members of
1:09:11 our city council and one of whom is in
1:09:12 the audience this evening um to Le to
1:09:15 inform and to lead the Strategic Plan
1:09:18 update the task force met six times
1:09:21 between late February of this year and
1:09:23 late June of this year first grounding
1:09:26 themselves in the current plan then
1:09:29 developing recommended updates for the
1:09:31 objectives in each goal area and then
1:09:34 working with City staff and our city
1:09:37 staff subject matter experts to
1:09:39 determine aligned actions for each of
1:09:41 their new or refined
1:09:43 objectives it will come not as a
1:09:46 surprise uh that many of the updates
1:09:48 that Steven discussed as updates to our
1:09:50 comprehensive plan those same Trends are
1:09:53 reflected in the updates to our
1:09:54 strategic plan which is exactly how it
1:09:57 should be the task force then presented
1:10:00 their recommendations to the city
1:10:02 council on July 16th of this year and at
1:10:05 that presentation you provided them with
1:10:07 positive feedback on their
1:10:09 recomendations and some very pointed uh
1:10:12 feedback for the administration as we
1:10:14 considered additional revisions moving
1:10:17 forward specifically you ask City staff
1:10:20 to attend to the Strategic plan
1:10:22 prioritization criteria that exist
1:10:24 within the plan document when making
1:10:26 final
1:10:27 revisions in July and August City staff
1:10:30 reviewed the recommendations from the
1:10:31 task force and considered them through
1:10:34 the following lens the level of impact
1:10:37 and Alignment to the goals and
1:10:39 objectives the likelihood of
1:10:42 success the ability for the city to
1:10:45 control the actions outlined in the plan
1:10:48 the cost and the budget alignment and
1:10:51 the five-year time Horizon so really
1:10:53 bringing this plan into its intended
1:11:01 Horizon the administration would like to
1:11:03 take a quick moment here before we dive
1:11:05 in just to acknowledge the 15 members of
1:11:07 the mayoral task force including the
1:11:09 three city council members for their
1:11:11 essential contributions to this project
1:11:14 this update is not just grounded in the
1:11:16 task force work but you'll see even
1:11:19 after the staff revisions the board and
1:11:22 the board and commission engagement and
1:11:23 the additional public engagement it
1:11:26 still largely resembles what you saw in
1:11:30 July also I'd like to thank um and the
1:11:34 administration would like to thank the
1:11:35 over 40 board and commission members who
1:11:38 attended a special meeting of board and
1:11:40 commissions making of 10 of our uh board
1:11:44 and commissions were represented at this
1:11:45 meeting to provide additional feedback
1:11:48 in September leading to the addition of
1:11:51 a couple of new objectives um in this
1:11:54 final recommendation
1:11:58 I don't have any words for this slide
1:12:00 just that I think it's important to see
1:12:02 the photos of the people that did the
1:12:04 work um and it's also important to
1:12:06 acknowledge you can see peppered in here
1:12:08 in little places um our city staff who
1:12:11 also provided invaluable knowledge as
1:12:13 they were providing Steven's team with
1:12:16 feedback on the functional plans and the
1:12:18 way that those feed into our
1:12:19 comprehensive plan they were also
1:12:21 providing that same feedback to our task
1:12:24 force members to our board and
1:12:26 commission members as they fed feed feed
1:12:28 feedback into this plan as
1:12:31 well so as I mentioned the task force
1:12:35 presented their recommendations to City
1:12:36 Council in July and their
1:12:39 recommendations were warmly received and
1:12:41 then you also provided specific feedback
1:12:43 to the
1:12:44 administration the first was to ensure
1:12:46 alignment between the Strategic Plan
1:12:47 update and the city's comprehensive plan
1:12:49 and functional plans was also to bring
1:12:52 the recommended actions within the time
1:12:54 Horizon that 5-year time Horizon and
1:12:57 then also to ensure that the recommended
1:12:58 actions within the plan could be
1:13:00 expected to be financed through the
1:13:02 city's budgets over the time Horizon of
1:13:04 the plan and one thing you likely
1:13:06 noticed um in the the uh draft update
1:13:11 presented tonight that there have been
1:13:13 some changes made specifically with the
1:13:15 budget in mind in some cases that leads
1:13:18 shows up as a more generalized action so
1:13:21 the mention of microtransit rather than
1:13:22 any particular program and in some cases
1:13:26 entire actions were removed or replaced
1:13:29 with an acknowledgement that we don't
1:13:31 currently foresee it's something within
1:13:33 our budgetary or fiscal um
1:13:38 ability so now the update the proposed
1:13:42 update differs from the original 2019
1:13:44 plan in the following ways so the 2019
1:13:47 plan at a high level six goal areas 16
1:13:50 objectives the task force presented
1:13:53 recommendations again within those six
1:13:55 goal areas but with 20 objectives and
1:13:57 they specifically recommended new
1:13:59 objectives within infrastructure City
1:14:01 leadership and services and Mobility the
1:14:05 final proposed update coming to you
1:14:06 tonight has those same six goal areas
1:14:09 but also has two additional um so 22
1:14:13 objectives total two added one in
1:14:15 environmental stewardship and one in
1:14:17 Social and economic
1:14:20 Vitality before I dive into the specific
1:14:22 objectives and some of the aligned
1:14:24 action
1:14:25 I I want to return to a what should be a
1:14:28 familiar slide which is the trends um
1:14:31 represented in this proposed update
1:14:34 you'll notice this is very similar to
1:14:36 the slide that the task force presented
1:14:38 and that's because not a whole lot has
1:14:40 changed in terms of the trends of this
1:14:43 update emergency preparedness Public
1:14:46 Safety and Community resilience is an
1:14:49 overarching theme of the proposed update
1:14:52 while ref it's reflected both in the
1:14:54 brand brand new emergency preparedness
1:14:56 objective within City leadership and
1:14:58 services it's also reflected in a
1:15:01 fleshed out Public Safety objective so
1:15:04 while there was an added objective in
1:15:06 2021 around Public Safety it had no
1:15:09 specific actions this update builds out
1:15:12 specific actions aligned to that
1:15:15 objective also it's reflected in the
1:15:18 fact that climate resilience and
1:15:19 emergency preparedness show up across
1:15:22 different goal areas not only do they
1:15:24 have their own goal area um and their
1:15:26 own objective you'll also see elements
1:15:29 of resilience and climate preparedness
1:15:32 and emergency Readiness reflected in
1:15:35 infrastructure social and economic
1:15:37 vitality and environmental
1:15:39 stewardship which brings me to the
1:15:41 second Trend continued investment in
1:15:44 climate action and sustainability this
1:15:45 should come as no surprise it was a huge
1:15:47 headline of what Steven shared about the
1:15:49 comprehensive Plan update and so that is
1:15:51 also reflected in here uh the objectives
1:15:55 in our environmental stewardship goal
1:15:58 area have been expanded to truly align
1:16:01 with the commitments we've made in our
1:16:02 climate action plan and you'll see there
1:16:05 are additional success measures in that
1:16:06 section as well that align with the
1:16:08 success measures in the isqua climate
1:16:10 action
1:16:12 plan hoing housing affordability and
1:16:15 livability again another topic that came
1:16:18 up in the elements of the comprehensive
1:16:20 plan that's
1:16:22 also supported in the revision visions
1:16:25 and the added emphasis here and the
1:16:27 update to the Strategic plan as
1:16:30 documented in the 2023 Community survey
1:16:33 livability whether that's affordable
1:16:36 housing housing affordability or
1:16:40 amenities the
1:16:42 um this continues to be on the minds of
1:16:46 our community and an ongoing focus in
1:16:49 growth and development and social and
1:16:51 economic
1:16:52 vitality and last but certainly not
1:16:55 least oper operationalizing Equity
1:16:58 Equity is one of the guiding principles
1:17:00 in the original strategic plan and as
1:17:02 mentioned in the original uh City
1:17:04 leadership and services goal area this
1:17:08 proposed objective or this proposed
1:17:10 update goes a step further and outlines
1:17:12 very specific actions and the how of
1:17:15 operationalizing that
1:17:19 commitment so what I'll do is I'd like
1:17:22 to walk through each goal area and share
1:17:25 with you high level some of the changes
1:17:27 um and then also some of the aligned
1:17:29 actions especially if there's a brand
1:17:30 new objective you'll notice on each
1:17:32 slide and in in your packet that any um
1:17:35 objective that is highlighted in Gray um
1:17:39 or is highlighted um that connotes a new
1:17:42 objective or an objective that changed
1:17:44 significantly from the 2019 plan so the
1:17:48 2019 plan for Mobility there were three
1:17:50 objectives we're proposing four
1:17:52 objectives for this update we made a
1:17:55 significant rewrite to the first one
1:17:58 with a focus on multimodal
1:17:59 Transportation which was not a focus in
1:18:01 the 2019 plan with the with a feeling
1:18:04 that multimodal transportation and
1:18:06 Investments there are needed to
1:18:08 alleviate congestion and also so the the
1:18:11 Reliance on solo vehicle travel this
1:18:14 shows up in particular actions of
1:18:16 incentivizing electric vehicle
1:18:18 infrastructure evaluating Trail and ro
1:18:20 road connectivity and also
1:18:23 implementation of the intelligent
1:18:25 transportation
1:18:27 system the second objective is is nearly
1:18:30 the exact same uh we still think it is
1:18:32 incredibly valuable to keep a focus on
1:18:35 near term connections and
1:18:37 efficiencies the third objective is a
1:18:39 new recommended objective focusing on
1:18:42 Safe Systems in Road design so
1:18:45 specifically this started originally as
1:18:46 a as the idea Vision zero so the idea of
1:18:50 eliminating um all uh pedestrian bike
1:18:54 fatalities and collisions with cars uh
1:18:57 the administration feels that taking the
1:18:59 more General language of Safe Systems
1:19:01 rather than committing to something like
1:19:02 Vision zero um provides us some
1:19:05 flexibility in exactly how we do that
1:19:07 but as you look at the actions within
1:19:09 the objective you'll see that they align
1:19:11 very closely to any Vision zero plan
1:19:13 that you look at so a redesign or a
1:19:17 commitment to Road redesign to increased
1:19:19 safety on our streets and then the last
1:19:21 objective here um is focused on
1:19:23 establishing the foundation for future
1:19:25 light rail this is a an update of the
1:19:28 light rail objective that existed in the
1:19:32 plan for growth and development um there
1:19:35 are four objectives recommended in this
1:19:37 update um and they are the four
1:19:39 objectives with minor changes um from
1:19:42 the original plan the first is probably
1:19:45 the most notable change in language and
1:19:47 I will say that is a trend of these
1:19:48 updates a lot of them are an update in
1:19:50 the language they're not necessarily an
1:19:52 update in the spirit maybe of the object
1:19:55 but bringing that objective into the
1:19:56 current day Steven talked a little bit
1:19:59 about how the the language um in the
1:20:02 values around land use have been
1:20:05 Revisited in the comprehensive plan the
1:20:07 task force recommended that we revisit
1:20:09 some of the language in the land the
1:20:11 growth and development or land use
1:20:12 section of this plan and this updated um
1:20:15 objective reflects that updated language
1:20:19 the second objective is largely the same
1:20:21 again with some very small language
1:20:23 updates and some changes to actions
1:20:26 specifically um the actions to achieve
1:20:29 balanced growth have been updated in
1:20:31 this plan the third objective is largely
1:20:34 the same the actions are largely the
1:20:36 same and the fourth objective reflects a
1:20:38 shift from a focus on near-term
1:20:40 livability so a focus on amenities to a
1:20:43 focus on long-term livability a focus on
1:20:45 climate resilience and proximity to
1:20:48 Mobility options and so you can see
1:20:50 that's again where that Trend in
1:20:52 community resilience um and climate
1:20:55 shows up outside of just um the
1:20:57 environmental stewardship goal
1:21:01 area speaking of environmental
1:21:03 stewardship that is the next goal area
1:21:05 uh this goal area originally had three
1:21:08 objectives the proposed update has four
1:21:10 objectives with this first objective
1:21:12 being the most notable um change it was
1:21:16 recommended by the boards and
1:21:17 commissions that an objective focus on
1:21:19 sustainable processes and approach to
1:21:22 project and program management be part
1:21:24 of this update it's the how we get to um
1:21:29 how we get to doing the work that we'd
1:21:31 like to commit to so seeing a change in
1:21:33 how we do our work not just what we've
1:21:35 committed to doing objective two
1:21:37 reflects an even more bold stance on the
1:21:39 city as a regional leader in climate
1:21:41 action and commitment to making progress
1:21:44 on targets outlined in our isqua climate
1:21:46 action plan objective three is nearly
1:21:50 the same language as our original 2019
1:21:52 plan an objective four which is similar
1:21:55 to the old objective three around land
1:21:59 acquisition but a focus on acquisition
1:22:01 that provides Community benefit and
1:22:04 ecosystem benefit so again aligning with
1:22:07 the park system Plan update but also
1:22:09 aligning with our commitment to climate
1:22:13 mitigation the social and economic
1:22:16 Vitality uh goal area the 2019 plan
1:22:19 originally had three objectives this
1:22:22 update is proposing four objectives and
1:22:24 the the last objective um is the most
1:22:27 notable uh change I will get there it
1:22:30 will be the last one I get to on this
1:22:32 Slide the first objective remains
1:22:34 similar with a focus on business
1:22:36 Recruitment and Retention for living
1:22:38 wage jobs the second is again similar
1:22:41 more specific actions on how the city
1:22:43 can attempt to build and expand
1:22:45 Partnerships that uh increase affordable
1:22:48 housing and housing affordability the
1:22:50 third objective is the language is
1:22:52 exactly the same and similar to what
1:22:54 Steven mentioned about the update uh to
1:22:57 the comprehensive plan this is reflect
1:22:59 the actions reflect the Human Services
1:23:01 strategic plan um and is so an update in
1:23:04 align with that functional plan this
1:23:06 newly added fourth objective came as a
1:23:08 combination of feedback received from uh
1:23:11 City Council in July around thinking
1:23:14 about um the loneliness epidemic and the
1:23:17 need to emphasize human and Community
1:23:20 connections and also feedback we
1:23:22 received from boards and commissions
1:23:24 specifically around the pride in our
1:23:28 arts and our public spaces and so really
1:23:30 thinking about how can our public spaces
1:23:33 and our spaces where we have public art
1:23:35 be thought of as assets to the community
1:23:37 and potential places to Foster
1:23:42 connection for our city leadership and
1:23:45 services goal area the original plan had
1:23:48 two objectives in 2019 in 2021 that was
1:23:51 increased to three objectives with the
1:23:53 addition of the public safety objective
1:23:55 this plan is recommending four
1:23:57 objectives the first two objectives are
1:24:00 revisions to two key Concepts Civic
1:24:03 engagement and efficient effective and
1:24:05 Equitable Services the original two
1:24:07 objectives essentially touched on those
1:24:10 two themes as well this is just a
1:24:12 Rewritten updated version of those two
1:24:15 elements what I will say is you can see
1:24:17 the most significant change in the plan
1:24:19 is the clarity and specificity of the
1:24:21 actions that the task force and boards
1:24:24 and commissions recommended to help the
1:24:26 city make progress in these areas
1:24:28 objective three was added in 2021 no
1:24:31 language was changed to the objective
1:24:33 but it was reaffirmed here in this
1:24:34 update and potential actions focused on
1:24:37 community policing Community Court and
1:24:40 enhanced um behavioral health support
1:24:42 have all been outlined as potential
1:24:45 actions and then objective four which is
1:24:47 a new uh objective for this goal area uh
1:24:52 which elevates the priority of Emergency
1:24:54 Man management and emergency
1:24:55 preparedness in the community so
1:24:57 preparing the city as an organization
1:25:00 preparing our isqua community and
1:25:02 responding to and recovering from any
1:25:05 future emergency while the city has
1:25:08 always maintained processes and
1:25:10 practices for emergencies The increased
1:25:13 focus on Preparation is Paramount and
1:25:15 that was reflected in the conversations
1:25:17 that the uh task force
1:25:20 had and then last but certainly not
1:25:22 least and I know uh our task force
1:25:24 members that presented on infrastructure
1:25:26 would be sad that it came at the end but
1:25:28 I thought for continuity with the plan
1:25:29 we would go in that
1:25:31 order um so certainly not you know last
1:25:34 in order not Las in our hearts objective
1:25:37 one for infrastructure remains largely
1:25:39 the the same there were some small
1:25:41 changes to language and specifically
1:25:42 some small changes to the language
1:25:44 within the actions a lot of feedback we
1:25:47 got from boards and commissions when we
1:25:49 brought the draft to them was that they
1:25:51 didn't just they just didn't understand
1:25:52 some of the language and so we wanted to
1:25:54 make it really clear uh what those
1:25:56 actions meant and then the addition of
1:25:58 the second objective as I mentioned at
1:26:00 the top resilience um infrastructure
1:26:03 resilience emergency preparedness as an
1:26:06 important Trend in this update and
1:26:08 that's reflected in this new objective
1:26:10 within this
1:26:13 section so the 2019 plan um two to four
1:26:18 measures per goal area uh generally
1:26:20 aligned to the I should say success
1:26:23 measures this I would say is one of the
1:26:25 most notable changes you probably
1:26:26 noticed as you read through in the
1:26:28 original plan each goal area had a few
1:26:31 success measures at the bottom um in 20
1:26:35 uh 20 the city council adopted a
1:26:37 performance measurement plan that sought
1:26:39 to expand uh the number of measures
1:26:42 including those success measures to
1:26:44 things that we could track in an ongoing
1:26:46 way to be able to report out on the
1:26:49 progress we were making what we're
1:26:51 proposing in this update is that success
1:26:54 measures live in alignment with each
1:26:56 objective so that instead of just
1:26:58 getting an update on whether an action
1:27:00 has been taken we're also able to track
1:27:02 over time if we're making progress on
1:27:04 each objective um and so you'll see that
1:27:07 in some cases uh there's an I should say
1:27:11 none of the success measures have gone
1:27:12 away it is actually just a combination
1:27:15 of what we are already tracking and a
1:27:17 few additional measures that staff said
1:27:19 hey I already track this and this would
1:27:21 let you know if we're making progress on
1:27:23 this objective it's what I'm using to
1:27:25 know if we're making progress on this
1:27:26 objective and so it's a combination of
1:27:28 the original success measures our
1:27:30 performance measurement plan and a
1:27:32 handful of additional measures um and so
1:27:35 that is probably one of the the most
1:27:37 notable changes that you'll see it's not
1:27:39 one to four at the end of a goal area
1:27:42 but at except with the exception of one
1:27:45 uh objective at least one performance
1:27:48 measure aligned to each
1:27:52 objective so um as I wrap up and I
1:27:56 promise I'll pause for questions here in
1:27:57 a moment the final proposal in front of
1:27:59 you um this evening is a culmination of
1:28:02 a number of decision points and various
1:28:06 options considered and choices made
1:28:09 along an each of the following uh points
1:28:13 in this process the task force
1:28:15 considered a variety of objectives and
1:28:18 their alignment to different goal areas
1:28:20 City staff worked to bring those task
1:28:22 force recommendations into the framework
1:28:25 for the Strategic plan prioritization
1:28:27 which is outlined in the 2019 plan board
1:28:30 and commission members added additional
1:28:33 objectives and actions um and we also
1:28:36 received additional public feedback
1:28:38 which is what outlined in one of the
1:28:39 attachments today um while a lot of that
1:28:44 feedback was largely positive and then
1:28:48 focused on implementation level so not
1:28:50 even Action level but when you do this
1:28:52 action I would like you to think about
1:28:54 this um and so we're going to keep uh
1:28:57 that feedback for when we get to the
1:28:58 implementation of some of those
1:29:01 actions the recommendation tonight um is
1:29:05 that the council um we're recommending
1:29:09 the approval and Adoption of the update
1:29:11 to the plan at the December 2nd meeting
1:29:14 and so um what that will look like is
1:29:17 after tonight's conversation any
1:29:19 additional necessary feedback will be
1:29:21 incorporated and will return to City
1:29:23 Council on December M 2nd to hopefully
1:29:25 approve and adopt and that will set the
1:29:27 staff up to prepare for implementation
1:29:30 and tracking starting in q1 of
1:29:33 2025 direction for tonight um
1:29:36 specifically do you agree with the
1:29:37 policy Direction reflected in these
1:29:39 revisions and are there any additional
1:29:41 revisions the council would like to see
1:29:43 included at this final stage of the
1:29:51 process is that it Dale just that that's
1:29:55 it just that that's good that was just a
1:29:58 little bit okay uh Council question and
1:30:01 answers council member
1:30:03 Ms thank you Madame council president a
1:30:06 couple of questions can you go back to
1:30:08 ES1 for a
1:30:10 second absolutely I don't I just don't
1:30:14 understand it
1:30:19 at or or maybe I just don't understand
1:30:21 how it relates to Environmental
1:30:24 yes so the recommendation here is a
1:30:27 focus on sustainable project management
1:30:30 practices so not just that
1:30:32 sustainability itself is the only team
1:30:35 really thinking about the implementation
1:30:38 of green infrastructure or sustainable
1:30:41 processes in their project management
1:30:43 but it's something that they're going to
1:30:44 lead um and see from teams across the
1:30:46 city so I think what youve seen in some
1:30:48 of the actions outlined below is sort of
1:30:51 training for staff on how to think about
1:30:53 their projects through a lens of
1:30:55 sustainability um potenti can you give
1:30:58 an example I cannot personally I have
1:31:01 not gone through the training um
1:31:03 sustainable program management can you
1:31:06 even just Define that that phrase for me
1:31:11 the way that I understand it is in the
1:31:14 same way that we might think about
1:31:16 Equitable like a an equity lens
1:31:19 Equitable program or project design
1:31:21 Equitable program management it'd be the
1:31:23 same idea a but through the lens of
1:31:24 sustainability well equity and the lens
1:31:27 of equity but then you said Equitable
1:31:29 program management and I would be as
1:31:31 lost on Equitable program management as
1:31:34 I would be on sustainable program
1:31:35 management totally fair um I think
1:31:38 that's part of the reason why we're the
1:31:40 the board the environmental board and
1:31:43 the sustainability team felt strongly
1:31:45 about adding this in um is that it's not
1:31:48 something that we know how to do it's
1:31:49 not something that every um team is
1:31:54 uh what's the word I'm looking for um is
1:31:58 fluent
1:31:59 in I've just I mean I've done a lot of
1:32:02 program management both professionally
1:32:04 and here on in Council and I've just
1:32:07 never seen sustainable program
1:32:09 management before they're just I
1:32:11 understand each of those three words
1:32:12 individually but you put them together
1:32:14 in this combination and I don't know
1:32:16 what they mean so can I ask that someone
1:32:19 come back with a slide to explain that
1:32:22 absolutely before we
1:32:24 honor
1:32:25 before of December City administrator uh
1:32:29 and I would also and thank you council
1:32:31 member Mars I would also direct the
1:32:33 council to the potential actions on page
1:32:37 518 of the packet um I think that helps
1:32:40 a little bit that talks about developing
1:32:42 sustainable infrastructure policy and
1:32:44 track project alignment to that policy
1:32:46 evaluate new plans policies and codes
1:32:48 with existing environmental plans to
1:32:50 identify gaps and vulnerabilities uh and
1:32:53 environmental and climate project
1:32:55 programs complete an after action review
1:32:56 to assess progress to goals and
1:32:58 objectives and identify recommendations
1:33:00 for improvement and to train staff and
1:33:02 sustainable processes environmental
1:33:04 design to support climate and
1:33:06 sustainability goals so hopefully that's
1:33:08 a little bit more information um and
1:33:10 certainly when we come back on December
1:33:12 2nd we'll ask uh uh this been to come
1:33:18 and hold on yep thank you and I did have
1:33:21 a second question yeah um you said in
1:33:24 all but one of these you had two or more
1:33:27 metrics what was the one where you
1:33:28 didn't have two or more metrics and do
1:33:30 you have at least one good the the very
1:33:34 last objective in INF the new objective
1:33:36 in infrastructure um and
1:33:40 so we have the other infrastructure
1:33:44 performance measures that we feel
1:33:45 strongly about and feel as though they
1:33:47 are good indicators um we've not landed
1:33:52 on something that we think totally help
1:33:54 a a non-action completed um performance
1:33:58 measure that we think gives us a good
1:34:00 indication of our progress on that very
1:34:02 here and I'll bring this one up on that
1:34:04 very last objective well I can I I mean
1:34:07 I could offer you one right now would be
1:34:08 great which is no more than pick a
1:34:10 number of hours of downtime for major
1:34:13 city uh systems per year right you could
1:34:15 say no more than three hours of downtime
1:34:18 per year or one hour of downtime or be
1:34:20 like Amazon and say no more than five
1:34:22 minutes of downtime per year I mean it's
1:34:24 whatever a number that would be
1:34:26 reasonable uh because that that would
1:34:29 allow you to to set a goal and then you
1:34:31 could then your electronic systems and
1:34:34 your processes and all that you could
1:34:36 you could parse out the you could budget
1:34:39 basically how much per year you would
1:34:41 expect of downtime in each of those
1:34:43 areas and add it up to whether it hits
1:34:45 your number or not right but I would
1:34:47 love to see like our you know plows not
1:34:51 more than two days down per year right
1:34:54 or a number like that but that that
1:34:55 would be that would be a way to measure
1:34:58 this this one that's great thank
1:35:01 you thanks great any other
1:35:07 questions okay I will look on then um we
1:35:12 have a moment for public comment and see
1:35:16 if there's anyone in the room or online
1:35:19 who would indicate a desire to speak on
1:35:23 the strategic Plan update and so anyone
1:35:27 online um just raising your virtual hand
1:35:30 sending the host a chat message if
1:35:31 you're on the phone star three or in
1:35:34 person you can jump up and down wave
1:35:38 hands okay looking like nothing okay
1:35:41 then we will go into
1:35:45 feedback counc member Hall uh thank you
1:35:49 um specific piece of feedback because I
1:35:51 think um for the most part thrilled with
1:35:55 the revisions that we see here I mean
1:35:57 that's basically what you heard last
1:35:58 time too from the council and thankful
1:36:00 for the process and people who
1:36:02 contributed um to the process again um I
1:36:07 came prepared to talk about how I think
1:36:09 it was a missed opportunity to not have
1:36:11 stuff about um the epidemic of
1:36:14 loneliness and isolation and then you
1:36:15 spoke to it as part of that new
1:36:18 objective and I think that's telling for
1:36:20 me that I didn't pick that I didn't
1:36:21 clock that with that one so so I think
1:36:23 that needs a a little bit more of a
1:36:25 tweak um it's all it's almost I mean you
1:36:28 you bring up connecting community
1:36:29 members in the objective which is good
1:36:32 um but it's doesn't it doesn't really
1:36:34 live in the potential actions or the
1:36:37 success measures although it does talk
1:36:39 about the number of people attending
1:36:41 arts and culture events which gets at
1:36:43 that kind of in a roundabout way um I
1:36:46 guess my ask before um we come back on
1:36:49 on this next is if we could have um we
1:36:53 could Che on this a little bit more um
1:36:56 there is a a city partner Community
1:36:59 partner up in the highlands lindsy
1:37:01 Pinkston with the highlands Council who
1:37:02 has been living and breathing this kind
1:37:04 of work ever since the US surgeon
1:37:06 general's warning has come out who would
1:37:08 I think would just be a good person to
1:37:09 connect with and say hey what do you
1:37:11 think about how do we best align this um
1:37:14 and acknowledging that staff already
1:37:17 went through the Strategic plan with the
1:37:19 lenson budget I'm not necessarily saying
1:37:21 that we need to have brand new ction
1:37:23 items or anything like that but perhaps
1:37:25 finding ways to use language um in a way
1:37:29 where it's easily recognizable that okay
1:37:31 this objective helps to solve this
1:37:33 problem that exists in the community um
1:37:35 but again thank you for for hearing that
1:37:37 um from the last meeting I really
1:37:39 appreciate it and um everything else
1:37:41 looks great to
1:37:42 me right any other feedback comments
1:37:45 Deputy council president D Michelle yes
1:37:48 uh I'll just be very brief I just uh
1:37:51 again another great body of work we're
1:37:53 really seeing tonight the culmination of
1:37:56 a lot of hard work uh by our staff and
1:37:59 our community so thanks for our
1:38:01 community members that were also
1:38:03 involved and I just want to thank you
1:38:05 for that um addition of uh the Arts and
1:38:09 acknowledgement of their importance in
1:38:11 our community and the the other uh goal
1:38:15 uh that was also added I think is very
1:38:16 important as well so uh I think good
1:38:19 listening good work and uh are very
1:38:21 appreciative of the work that's been
1:38:23 done thank
1:38:24 you excellent council member
1:38:28 MZ thank you uh I think what's most
1:38:32 important in here was what you said on
1:38:36 give me page 546 I don't know what it
1:38:39 corresponds to under your under your
1:38:42 original 2019 success measures versus
1:38:44 your 2024 updated success measures um
1:38:49 and where you talked about aligned to
1:38:51 objective in order to provide provide
1:38:53 more information about progress on
1:38:55 individual objectives this has been a
1:38:58 persistent um concern of mine is that we
1:39:01 Define goals and metrics and then we
1:39:05 don't revisit them often enough this is
1:39:07 in engineering called having a closed
1:39:09 loop system versus an open loop system
1:39:11 right and uh so I'm thrilled that that
1:39:14 is an important part of our plan and I
1:39:17 look forward to seeing these measures
1:39:19 both the existing measures and the new
1:39:21 measures as functions over time to
1:39:24 understand how we're actually making
1:39:25 progress against so that's the part that
1:39:28 what I heard about today that I'm most
1:39:29 excited about and I think will bear
1:39:31 fruit um for us and the council and also
1:39:34 for the public about how we're doing
1:39:36 against
1:39:38 this thank you uh council member
1:39:42 hunt thank you council president Walsh I
1:39:45 was on um the committee that did the
1:39:49 Deep dive with our awesome uh volunteer
1:39:52 um commission members and community
1:39:54 members and I had the opportunity to
1:39:57 focus on a couple areas because the way
1:40:00 we worked was we all had the opportunity
1:40:03 to go around to all of the areas but we
1:40:05 had detailed um focus time on specific
1:40:08 areas and one of the ones that I focused
1:40:10 on was
1:40:11 infrastructure um which we really didn't
1:40:15 have as much time in the 2019 update to
1:40:18 work on and so one of the uh one of the
1:40:21 really notable improvements I think this
1:40:22 time was
1:40:23 we added one objective but we also spent
1:40:27 a lot more time and also spent a lot
1:40:28 more time with the other um focus areas
1:40:32 kind of including it throughout the
1:40:33 entire process and considering it
1:40:35 throughout the entire process uh as as
1:40:39 part of that I really appreciated
1:40:41 council member Mart's earlier questions
1:40:42 about the sustainable projects um in the
1:40:47 infrastructure Focus area we have this
1:40:51 we have actions about minimizing carbon
1:40:53 impact we have actions about preserving
1:40:55 and enhancing the city's resilient water
1:40:58 supply and I think for for future policy
1:41:02 makers and for people looking at the
1:41:04 Strategic plan for guidance it would be
1:41:06 really helpful to kind of give more
1:41:08 information about what do we Me by
1:41:10 sustainable projects because we
1:41:12 encountered that when we we were trying
1:41:14 to think through in the infrastructure
1:41:16 section how do we make these how do we
1:41:18 make our infrastructure sustainable what
1:41:20 does that mean what are the actions
1:41:21 associated with that and we had staff
1:41:23 help and they uh they really supported
1:41:26 us in in devising these actions that we
1:41:28 have in the plan at the same time as we
1:41:31 grow as a city as we uh have more
1:41:34 capital projects as we look to new
1:41:37 facilities Etc having that guidance more
1:41:41 accessible to more community members can
1:41:42 only be better right um so I I
1:41:46 appreciate that um the other thing I
1:41:49 think was really important was the
1:41:51 fiveyear time Horizon and really
1:41:53 focusing on that that gave us a really
1:41:56 good uh framework to work within bounds
1:42:00 to consider which actions and now that
1:42:01 we've seen five years play out we have a
1:42:04 much better sense of these are the
1:42:05 things that are realistic these are the
1:42:07 things that are helpful for us also to
1:42:09 have on our on our fiveyear plan so I
1:42:13 think that was good my only other
1:42:16 comment and I leave it to you for how to
1:42:19 document this but we do throughout the
1:42:22 throughout this process we've had a
1:42:24 number of Lessons Learned due to things
1:42:26 that have happened over the last five
1:42:28 years including the co pandemic and then
1:42:30 the economic impacts of the co pandemic
1:42:32 and as part of that I think also really
1:42:35 recognizing the loneliness um that's
1:42:37 also in my mind a component of that as
1:42:40 well recognizing the importance of Human
1:42:42 Services um for our community when when
1:42:44 folks are experiencing economic hardship
1:42:47 that was
1:42:48 another another um important thing that
1:42:51 happens over the five years that we were
1:42:53 able to address with that hindsight in
1:42:56 this update and so I was thinking if
1:42:59 somebody new to the process comes and
1:43:01 and sees you know this stuff about the
1:43:02 loneliness epidemic for example they
1:43:04 might not have that context and so I
1:43:07 thought it might be helpful to explain
1:43:09 that it was something that came up also
1:43:12 in the context of Public Safety and that
1:43:14 emphasis there emergency
1:43:16 preparedness um you know those were all
1:43:18 Lessons Learned uh in large part through
1:43:21 that pandemic and those um and those
1:43:24 years after the pandemic and so I think
1:43:27 in in our process that was a big part of
1:43:30 it and I don't you don't see the word
1:43:33 covid anywhere and I think that's
1:43:35 appropriate but at the same time I think
1:43:37 for our documentation of the process and
1:43:39 for the next group that looks at the
1:43:41 next update and people looking to this
1:43:43 for guidance of why did we change
1:43:44 certain things I thought that um
1:43:47 documentation of that in our thought
1:43:48 process might be might be helpful uh
1:43:51 again this was a really really thorough
1:43:53 process we had so many Community Voices
1:43:56 I think this end product really reflects
1:43:58 all of those Community Voices and I'm
1:44:01 very uh will be very supportive of
1:44:03 adopting this when it comes
1:44:06 back any other comments council member
1:44:11 Joe thank you um I would just like to
1:44:14 thank uh council member hunt and um
1:44:17 council member Marts and council
1:44:19 president Walsh for signing up to help
1:44:22 with this process
1:44:23 you attended seven extra meetings over a
1:44:26 six-month period and and we're all very
1:44:29 busy and yet you found time to go that
1:44:31 extra mile and do those extra meetings
1:44:32 so thank you so much um I'd like to talk
1:44:35 a little bit about the uh the the
1:44:37 loneliness issue but as it relates to
1:44:39 City leadership and services um I I
1:44:44 really think you're doing a great job in
1:44:46 measuring our you know number of tree
1:44:49 Acres preserved and all the metrics that
1:44:51 you've done on on the website it's
1:44:53 fantastic work when we talk about Lead
1:44:56 City leadership and services you're
1:44:57 talking about how we reestablish
1:44:59 Connection in community and cultural uh
1:45:02 um awareness in our community and it's a
1:45:04 little bit bit more difficult to to
1:45:06 measure and to track right in terms of
1:45:09 you could have a certain number of
1:45:10 meetings that we we had that reached out
1:45:13 to the Asian-American Community or the
1:45:15 Hispanic Community but that really
1:45:17 doesn't tell the the depth of our
1:45:19 connection the way that we're actually
1:45:22 building community the way that City
1:45:23 leadership is actually connecting with
1:45:25 the community to know what they really
1:45:27 need um and I think that uh if as we
1:45:31 look at this particular section it's
1:45:34 going to be more difficult to measure
1:45:37 but we can feel it in our hearts and
1:45:39 souls so to speak when I'm making a
1:45:41 connection with people in in another
1:45:43 community that I may not have a a strong
1:45:46 connection or history with um I'm
1:45:48 feeling that in terms of my connection
1:45:51 to the community my buy into what we're
1:45:54 doing here in the city and my sense of
1:45:57 belonging um so I don't know how you can
1:46:00 track those things um but I think it's
1:46:02 so important after the pandemic and
1:46:04 after the um election that we had the
1:46:08 national people and the Senate and House
1:46:10 members on the national level can't come
1:46:13 to our door and talk to us but those of
1:46:15 us here on this Council can make an
1:46:18 effort to go to a number of doors and
1:46:20 talk to our peers and our neighbors face
1:46:22 to to face and we need to we need to
1:46:25 reestablish that connection and sense of
1:46:28 civics uh as we're going to be challenge
1:46:31 the community uh as we become more and
1:46:33 more kind of pushed apart along the way
1:46:36 so anything you can do to measure that
1:46:39 to give us a sense that um we're coming
1:46:42 closer together as a community or we're
1:46:44 going farther apart as a community so
1:46:46 that we on the council can as Leaders uh
1:46:49 step in or Pat ourselves on the back or
1:46:52 take addition measures will be will be
1:46:54 very helpful as we go forward so um I
1:46:56 know it's not a metric you can measure
1:46:58 but I hope it's something that you can
1:46:59 keep in mind it's definitely something
1:47:02 that we can look into especially um
1:47:04 we're just in the early stages of our
1:47:07 2025 banial Community survey um I think
1:47:11 we've we've asked questions that have
1:47:12 touched on that but not quite to the
1:47:14 heart of what you're saying and so
1:47:16 something to consider as we uh explore
1:47:18 that upcoming
1:47:21 opportunity any other
1:47:23 comments okay I will take my turn um
1:47:28 I've got a few specific comments um in
1:47:30 the growth and development area oh okay
1:47:33 before I dive into the
1:47:35 details I I'm just going to start by
1:47:38 saying I like council member Hall said
1:47:40 I'm just thrilled with this update uh I
1:47:43 think this takes us absolutely forward
1:47:46 um it's a gargantuan
1:47:48 effort and really thinking back into the
1:47:50 Strategic plan task force
1:47:53 the difference that they made in six or
1:47:56 seven meetings whereas the original plan
1:47:58 took 18 months is just huge um and so I
1:48:04 really feel like this update just feels
1:48:06 very very focused and helpful and I
1:48:09 appreciate all of your help in just
1:48:13 continually pushing it to be useful um
1:48:17 that's very helpful um I heard what
1:48:22 council member hunt said about kind of
1:48:24 documenting things I think it sounds
1:48:26 like that would be much like we do with
1:48:28 a um budget Council letter or something
1:48:32 I I think that concept of recognizing
1:48:35 what are the changes and the differences
1:48:37 between when the plan was adopted
1:48:39 previously and now and really talking
1:48:41 through the process would be great not
1:48:43 only because of what has happened in the
1:48:47 world but the way that you brought us
1:48:50 through that update task force was
1:48:53 really helpful and I I would love to
1:48:55 document that so that would be great
1:48:59 um few specific comments in the growth
1:49:02 and development area the opportunity
1:49:05 section the third sentence reads in the
1:49:08 face of this growth isqua has chosen to
1:49:10 direct development to the valley floor
1:49:13 to protect existing neighborhoods and
1:49:15 our forested hillsides and plan for
1:49:18 growth around a future light rail
1:49:20 station I agree with all of that except
1:49:22 except for the protecting existing
1:49:24 neighborhoods I think we specifically
1:49:27 mentioned in the first objective that
1:49:31 neighborhoods will be will neighborhoods
1:49:34 continue to be known for their unique
1:49:35 aesthetic experience reflected in both
1:49:37 the built environment and natural
1:49:39 surroundings while responsibly
1:49:41 accommodating additional housing and
1:49:43 services throughout the city so rather
1:49:46 than disagree with ourselves between the
1:49:48 objective I just think it's really
1:49:50 important for us to recognize that
1:49:53 neighborhoods throughout time have been
1:49:55 meant to change and adjust and grow to
1:50:00 provide the services that communities
1:50:02 need so I would specifically like to
1:50:05 remove that part about protecting
1:50:07 existing
1:50:08 neighborhoods um and then growth and
1:50:10 development I think it's gd3 though
1:50:13 looking over the draft it doesn't have
1:50:15 the numbers on it um the one related to
1:50:19 infrastructure um at least in your draft
1:50:22 here the success measure there is total
1:50:24 housing units by type I think that might
1:50:28 typo um because that doesn't seem to be
1:50:32 related to that um and it doesn't relate
1:50:37 to the success measures that were in the
1:50:41 original
1:50:43 plan so the um objective is
1:50:46 infrastructure is planned in
1:50:48 anticipation of future growth leveraging
1:50:50 development and incorporating innovative
1:50:52 sustainable and resilient design
1:50:55 obviously that is supposed to be
1:50:57 responsive to housing units but I would
1:51:01 think that the success measures would
1:51:03 be based
1:51:07 infrastructure um and how we address
1:51:10 that so I'd like to just have you check
1:51:12 into that and see if that was meant or
1:51:16 otherwise um and then council member
1:51:19 Marts mentioned the ES1 phrasing and I
1:51:24 have to agree I I think the concept and
1:51:28 the way that you explained it verbally
1:51:30 helped me understand what is meant by
1:51:33 that but I think either by talking about
1:51:37 it as a sustainability lens or something
1:51:40 with that adopts sustainability
1:51:42 practices across
1:51:44 departments and creating a less
1:51:48 centralized you know Focus around
1:51:51 sustainability I think that would help
1:51:53 help create the concept that you're
1:51:56 doing more than saying
1:51:58 sustainable program and project
1:52:00 management so um I would just like us to
1:52:03 look at rewarding that and then what
1:52:07 council member Hall and council member
1:52:08 Joe said about the uh lonliness epidemic
1:52:12 I'd love to see how we can specifically
1:52:15 mention that um because I think that
1:52:18 does speak to the moment in time that we
1:52:21 are in
1:52:23 um so generally I just think this is
1:52:26 fantastic I think there's just a few
1:52:28 tweaks but gosh the difference between
1:52:31 what we even saw in July when it had
1:52:35 already gone through a bunch of work um
1:52:38 and then to streamline down to this I
1:52:40 think it's fantastic council member
1:52:42 Mars I I just want to build a little bit
1:52:45 about on what you were talking about in
1:52:46 terms of sustainability and I'm I'm
1:52:48 going to I'm going to play the Oldtimer
1:52:50 card here for a second and say that when
1:52:52 I started on Council uh we had every
1:52:58 bill that came forward we had a how is
1:53:02 this sustainable and what is the
1:53:04 sustainability aspect to this and we
1:53:06 divided it into three areas right
1:53:08 economic sustainability social
1:53:10 sustainability and environmental
1:53:12 sustainability and so I don't I don't
1:53:16 suggest we go back to that but I suggest
1:53:18 we we talked to some of the old-timers
1:53:21 who are around because we don't do that
1:53:23 anymore right and there's some reason
1:53:25 why we don't do it anymore so what when
1:53:28 I hear about this I hear some you know
1:53:30 if there's we have applied the
1:53:32 sustainability lens to everything in the
1:53:35 past what worked and what didn't what
1:53:37 did we learn from that and how can that
1:53:39 inform
1:53:42 this excellent okay any other feedback
1:53:46 for the
1:53:48 administration council member hunt uh I
1:53:51 will plus one the um aligning with our
1:53:55 actions on removing the protection
1:53:57 because we actually specifically are
1:53:59 removing that item because we wanted to
1:54:03 uh enhance Aesthetics and make sure that
1:54:05 we're also welcoming growth so I wanted
1:54:07 to plus one
1:54:10 that excellent okay just a little bit of
1:54:14 feedback for you but moving forward do
1:54:16 you have everything you need I do thank
1:54:18 you very much excited to be back in
1:54:20 December indeed
1:54:24 okay item two out of three do we want to
1:54:27 take a five minute break I'm seeing a
1:54:30 few nods for five minute break during
1:54:32 setup so chance we'll just take a little
1:54:36 five minute recess and we will be back
1:54:39 at 8:30
2:01:34 okay are we
2:01:36 unmuted okay Chance looking I guess
2:01:39 Flash the light when you're ready to
2:01:41 take us
2:01:43 back great okay we are back from recess
2:01:46 and so we are going in for our final um
2:01:51 agenda item com
2:01:53 0039 the 2025 2026 budget deliberations
2:01:57 presented by Andrea Snyder the deputy
2:01:59 City administrator interim
2:02:02 CFO person with all the titles at the
2:02:04 city take it
2:02:06 away thank you council president uh
2:02:09 tonight we have a discussion on our
2:02:12 budget deliberations this is really a
2:02:14 follow-up to our meeting last week and
2:02:16 some of the questions and issues raised
2:02:18 Council um so tonight our uh Direction
2:02:23 needed is really focused around just
2:02:25 four items the first is Metroflex so
2:02:29 tonight we are presenting on our
2:02:30 proposal uh for changes to the the
2:02:33 proposed budget the first one of those
2:02:35 is to fund Metroflex for the remainder
2:02:38 of our contract through uh really
2:02:41 2025 we would do that with funds from
2:02:45 the street operating fund balance of
2:02:49 50,000 from the fleet fund and 50,000
2:02:51 from the general fund fund uh otherwise
2:02:53 make no changes to the fleet fund
2:02:57 levels and we're going to be providing a
2:02:59 lot more information on the fleet fund
2:03:01 there seem to be a lot of questions
2:03:02 about Fleet and how the city manages our
2:03:04 Fleet so we'll be providing a lot more
2:03:06 information about that this
2:03:08 evening another uh direction that we
2:03:11 seek from Council tonight is on the
2:03:14 light rail study we heard some concerns
2:03:16 and questions over light rails so we've
2:03:18 come back with a reduced scope um we
2:03:22 the original request for 400,000 so what
2:03:24 we're proposing is to fund It On A
2:03:26 reduced level for 200,000 and we'll talk
2:03:29 through what we believe we can
2:03:30 accomplish with that level of funding
2:03:33 and then also uh we've heard a lot of
2:03:35 comments about the Downtown isqua
2:03:37 Association this evening and I know
2:03:39 Council has received comments over email
2:03:41 about the Downtown isqua Association so
2:03:43 we are proposing to fund Dia
2:03:47 $93,900 in 2025 and
2:03:50 68,000
2:03:52 $232 in 2026 and we'll talk a little
2:03:55 more specifics about that funding
2:03:57 proposal and then um also the final
2:04:01 direction that we seek is uh whether
2:04:03 Council feels comfortable in adopting
2:04:06 the budget on December second instead of
2:04:08 what we've been discussing on December
2:04:10 9th and um if there's concerns and
2:04:13 desire for more budget uh conversations
2:04:15 and deliberations we can certainly U
2:04:19 have that uh time anticipate on December
2:04:21 9th but if there's not a lot of concerns
2:04:23 raised by Council then perhaps we can
2:04:26 adopt it on December
2:04:28 2nd so first I want to take a bit of a
2:04:31 step back and talk about what we've the
2:04:34 process of getting us here today so we
2:04:37 had our August forecast we discussed a
2:04:39 little bit about that forecast at the
2:04:40 city council Retreat back in July um we
2:04:45 uh and every step of the way we find out
2:04:47 more information we provide more
2:04:49 information we go into more detail we
2:04:51 had the prelim budget which is really
2:04:52 just a budget on a page very general
2:04:55 proposed budget and every step along the
2:04:57 way there are some changes that occur so
2:04:59 we're in this space between the proposed
2:05:01 budget and the adopted budget I bring
2:05:03 this up because um as we have looked at
2:05:05 the proposed budget we have a few
2:05:07 corrections to make Corrections are
2:05:09 really common some of these Corrections
2:05:11 happen through this deliberations
2:05:13 process with Council saying we want you
2:05:14 to make the a couple of adjustments to
2:05:16 the budget and some changes other
2:05:18 Corrections we find along the way as um
2:05:21 we look and make sure that the budget
2:05:24 document reflects what's in our
2:05:25 budgeting software for example um so we
2:05:28 find some corrections along the way that
2:05:29 happens with every budget process this
2:05:31 year is no different some of the
2:05:34 corrections that we've already found and
2:05:36 would like to put into the adopted
2:05:37 budget include uh epsa if you recall the
2:05:41 city was part of a partnership for um uh
2:05:44 Police radios and emergency radios that
2:05:47 partnership has dissolved we're going to
2:05:49 get some of that capital investment back
2:05:51 we hadn't known about the timing of that
2:05:54 until after the proposed budget was
2:05:56 published so we're going to like to put
2:05:58 that into the corrected uh adopted draft
2:06:02 of the budget also uh we calculated
2:06:06 utility tax for utility tax proposal but
2:06:08 we left out Sam plats uh water customers
2:06:11 as part of that so want to add that back
2:06:13 into the budget so those are just some
2:06:15 examples of the types of Corrections
2:06:17 that we found since the proposed budget
2:06:20 was published we also have some expenses
2:06:23 for example street sweeping of we are
2:06:26 pushing all of the street sweeping
2:06:28 street sweeping expenses to the storm
2:06:30 water fund instead of general fund and
2:06:32 the reasons for that is that our storm
2:06:34 water
2:06:36 um uh license essentially from the state
2:06:41 really requires much more street
2:06:43 sweeping to occur um because of the
2:06:46 storm water utility and considers our
2:06:48 streets and roadways as part of the
2:06:49 storm water utility so because of those
2:06:52 storm water regulations from the state
2:06:54 um street sweeping has really become an
2:06:56 integral part of that storm water
2:06:58 maintenance activity so we should assign
2:07:02 those to the storm water fund um there's
2:07:04 also some passrs that we had forgotten
2:07:06 Revenue that maybe we're not really
2:07:08 collecting but just kind of pass through
2:07:10 the city so these are just examples of
2:07:13 some of the the types of Corrections
2:07:15 that we found that would will be in the
2:07:18 draft for the adopted budget um and I'm
2:07:21 bringing these up now because some of
2:07:24 these
2:07:25 Corrections help provide funding for the
2:07:28 proposed additions that we're going to
2:07:30 be discussing in the rest of the
2:07:31 presentation so we've been talking about
2:07:33 our budget is really tight we've been
2:07:35 making lots and lots of reductions um
2:07:37 but because of these Corrections we have
2:07:39 been able to propose additional funding
2:07:42 to some of these categories tonight so I
2:07:46 wanted to make sure to bring those up um
2:07:49 quickly before we get into uh the bigger
2:07:52 proposals so as I said the
2:07:54 administration is proposing funding
2:07:56 Metroflex that's
2:07:58 $262,000 for the year of
2:08:00 2025 that would fulfill our contract in
2:08:03 the meanwhile we would continue to
2:08:04 search for other funding sources we
2:08:06 mentioned a grant that we' applied for
2:08:09 um and maybe there's other Partnerships
2:08:11 that we need to examine as
2:08:13 well so
2:08:15 $50,000 of this funding would come from
2:08:17 the general fund $50,000 would come from
2:08:20 the fleet fund and then the remaining
2:08:22 from the street operating fund balance
2:08:25 the impacts of this as we think about um
2:08:27 are pretty minimal to the fleet fund and
2:08:29 general fund because again some of those
2:08:31 Corrections that I just discussed the
2:08:34 $162,000 from the street operating um
2:08:37 fund balance we don't anticipate to
2:08:39 affect our street operations activities
2:08:43 um unless there are major storm events
2:08:46 that's what we usually like to have that
2:08:48 fund balance for a healthy fund balance
2:08:50 for that fund um in case there's extra
2:08:52 snow that we hadn't anticipated Etc so
2:08:55 if we get to that um if that does occur
2:08:58 in the next bium then what we would do
2:09:00 is we would uh look at general fund um
2:09:05 to help supplement and provide for that
2:09:07 emergency type
2:09:12 response and uh at this point I'd like
2:09:15 to welcome AUM manahan admin Services
2:09:17 administrative Services director up to
2:09:20 give a lot more information about the
2:09:21 fleet
2:09:25 fund thank you again my name is Autumn
2:09:27 manahan administrative Services director
2:09:29 in my department includes Fleet um as
2:09:32 mayor paully mentioned last week at your
2:09:35 last meeting um we we have significant
2:09:37 deferred maintenance needs at the city
2:09:40 both in facilities which I've been
2:09:41 talking about now for a while and in
2:09:43 Fleet uh that we're really working to
2:09:45 address in this proposed budget so
2:09:47 really we're trying to play some
2:09:49 catchup um we're really thankful to have
2:09:52 some outside sources as consultant help
2:09:54 and we had their facility study we also
2:09:56 had a fleet study that was that was done
2:09:58 by matrix Consulting Group back in 2023
2:10:01 that help us assess the challenges and
2:10:03 then create plans moving
2:10:04 forward um so Matrix um fulfilled its
2:10:09 study in 2023 and came back with a
2:10:11 series of recommendations which we're
2:10:13 working on um as a start we have um
2:10:16 started purchasing some electric
2:10:18 vehicles uh installing charging stations
2:10:21 uh working really hard on improving
2:10:23 customer service with departments and
2:10:25 having more connections with our
2:10:26 customers creating some more internal
2:10:28 policies that help then provide SM
2:10:30 structure around our program and then
2:10:32 upgrades to our software which helps us
2:10:34 in making more data um driven
2:10:36 decision-making when it comes to
2:10:39 Fleet uh as I mentioned last week the
2:10:41 study also found that about a half of
2:10:42 our motorized Fleet in 2023 was older
2:10:46 than its recommended life
2:10:48 cycle so we're here now with budget
2:10:50 requests to really start addressing
2:10:51 those
2:10:55 deficiencies so um I sh I shared a chart
2:10:58 last week that showed a couple different
2:11:00 you know options for addressing
2:11:02 replacement vehicles um the goal is a
2:11:05 leveled replacement plan right one that
2:11:06 we don't have a lot of Peaks and valleys
2:11:09 uh in budgets year over to year um for
2:11:12 Replacements uh and that's what the
2:11:13 study recommends that said we have
2:11:15 significant investment needs now in
2:11:17 Fleet and that's due to many factors and
2:11:20 so here's a few
2:11:22 uh the first is many expensive vehicles
2:11:23 are all up at the same time to be uh
2:11:26 replaced um and that have further age
2:11:28 since 2023 uh and and really do need
2:11:32 some attention um in addition there's an
2:11:34 increased focus on infrastructure
2:11:36 maintenance now at the city we're also
2:11:38 doing a lot more specialized work that
2:11:39 requires certain types of equipment
2:11:42 supply challenges in the past several
2:11:43 years have been very very challenging as
2:11:45 far as even being able to purchase
2:11:47 vehicles and equipment so we have a
2:11:49 backlog as we're working toward actually
2:11:50 making those
2:11:51 purchases uh police patrol vehicles are
2:11:54 um more likely now used as take-home
2:11:57 Vehicles as part of a a pilot program
2:12:00 that shortens the life cycle of our
2:12:02 Patrol Vehicles significantly and so
2:12:04 that's also
2:12:05 changed um there are newer models for
2:12:08 several types of vehicles and equipment
2:12:09 that would provide substantial
2:12:11 efficiencies and safety enhancements for
2:12:13 our field staff and then finally um
2:12:16 further investment in EVS can increase
2:12:18 upfront costs
2:12:22 um so in your packet Autumn before you
2:12:24 move on we've got a question council
2:12:26 member
2:12:27 MZ why does taking the vehicles home
2:12:29 substantially reduce their life
2:12:32 cycle because often times police offic
2:12:35 vehicles are being used 247 so whether
2:12:38 they're used to be taken home or they're
2:12:40 being used in the field they're
2:12:41 constantly running so we don't have we
2:12:43 didn't add an extra you know several
2:12:46 vehicles that were just for take-home
2:12:48 the patrol vehicles that are being used
2:12:49 are also being used for take-home if
2:12:50 that makes sense no okay I'm sorry
2:12:54 because they're they're getting before
2:12:57 right they were getting driven a certain
2:12:59 amount per day but a lot right because
2:13:01 they're they're going out of Patrol then
2:13:03 you're just adding the the commute time
2:13:05 to and from but aren't they getting
2:13:07 driven like four or six hours or eight
2:13:09 hours a day um as as part of Patrol and
2:13:13 then the amount that that gets added to
2:13:15 that to just drive it home seems a small
2:13:17 addition compared to the
2:13:19 amount part of their
2:13:22 operational it it does add a significant
2:13:24 amount of mileage just depending on
2:13:25 where our police officers live a lot of
2:13:27 them don't live locally um and so there
2:13:31 is significant of mge in just driving to
2:13:35 from and if you would have anything to
2:13:37 add Kelly on
2:13:40 that this is Kelly kusman our fleet
2:13:44 manager good evening again Kelly cusman
2:13:47 fleet manager we don't have specific uh
2:13:50 data on exactly where the vehicles are
2:13:52 going home to um but initial data or
2:13:55 collection when we started looking at
2:13:57 pilot
2:13:58 program suggested that we patrolled
2:14:01 about 25 miles a day U when they
2:14:04 districted uh the city a little bit that
2:14:07 that mileage shrunk on those vehicles
2:14:09 and then we're looking at somewhere
2:14:12 about that same amount of mileage each
2:14:13 way for transportation alone so we kind
2:14:17 of went from about a six-year
2:14:19 replacement cycle to about a four
2:14:22 okay thank you thank
2:14:27 you think it's really indicative of
2:14:29 where our police officers live too and
2:14:31 seeing
2:14:34 that uh so in your packet is the full
2:14:36 list of the proposed vehicles for the um
2:14:39 the budget I pulled out a few just as
2:14:41 some examples not having to go through
2:14:43 the full list tonight but to show you
2:14:45 just some of the needs that um that are
2:14:48 included in the budget so to start off
2:14:50 some EX extremely old generators from
2:14:52 1972 and 1983 that have low electrical
2:14:56 capacity a flatbed truck from 1986 in
2:14:59 the streets division that has some
2:15:00 worsening mechanical condition and
2:15:03 limited parts availability just due to
2:15:04 its age a one ton duck truck in Parks
2:15:08 operations from
2:15:09 1992 a backhole loader from 2008 in the
2:15:12 Water Division that's showing some
2:15:14 Extreme Wear a jet vac heavy duty truck
2:15:16 with worsening mechanical issues from
2:15:19 2009 a Transit bus used by the senior
2:15:21 center from 2010 that is not Ada
2:15:24 accessible uh is hindering some just
2:15:27 operations there and then as mentioned
2:15:30 uh Patrol vehicles used for the
2:15:31 take-home program aged in 2019 and 2022
2:15:34 would already be up for replacement in
2:15:36 this proposed
2:15:39 budget with that I'm here to answer any
2:15:42 questions
2:15:43 on council member hunt thank you um my
2:15:48 understanding is that there are some
2:15:49 cities that have a police Patrol
2:15:51 take-home program where they're using a
2:15:53 different vehicle to take home than the
2:15:55 police vehicle police vehicles have a
2:15:56 lot of uh special equipment and are um
2:16:01 are uh more expensive than a lot of
2:16:03 other vehicles uh and so I wondered if
2:16:05 that was considered in the budget and um
2:16:09 if we could see the results of that
2:16:12 consideration City
2:16:15 administrator council member hunt thank
2:16:17 you for the question because I just got
2:16:19 a text from Stephanie Johnson our HR
2:16:22 director which address directly
2:16:24 addresses your question and Stephanie
2:16:26 writes uh remind us that in order to be
2:16:29 eligible for take-home program employees
2:16:31 must live within a straight line
2:16:33 distance of 50 mi from the city if the
2:16:35 employee lives outside of this boundary
2:16:37 he or she must Park the take-home
2:16:39 vehicle at a secure location such as a
2:16:41 police or fire station within a straight
2:16:43 line distance of 50 miles from the city
2:16:46 so that is our version of that at a 50
2:16:48 mile p
2:16:52 um thank you for that I I do think that
2:16:55 my question so I I believe there are
2:16:56 some cities where they have a whole
2:16:58 different car it's not a police vehicle
2:17:00 that they get into the separate car they
2:17:02 take that home to and from work and so
2:17:05 that would be more my question um
2:17:07 because we're seeing the the two years
2:17:09 you know we're seeing more um wear on
2:17:13 the vehicles as a result of this program
2:17:15 and reducing those versus if it were a
2:17:17 different car that was um less expensive
2:17:20 and I and I have heard from other cities
2:17:22 that they they still allow their um
2:17:24 officers this benefit taking home the
2:17:27 cars but it's not the police patrol cars
2:17:29 but thank you for the additional
2:17:30 information about the the distance and
2:17:33 and we've had those discussions as well
2:17:35 um we don't have a police chief with us
2:17:37 this evening uh but in discussions with
2:17:40 with Chief Schwan um she believes there
2:17:43 is a value to them having that police
2:17:45 vehicle for emergency response um you
2:17:48 know the idea that if everyone has a
2:17:50 police vehicle and there is an emergency
2:17:52 uh we then have the value of police
2:17:54 officers who live near us who may work
2:17:56 from other jurisdictions and vice versa
2:17:58 so um we have explored the idea of a
2:18:02 take-home
2:18:04 sedan let Autumn fill in any blanks from
2:18:07 that but uh but certainly we have had
2:18:09 those discussions and I think the the
2:18:11 value the chief Swan feels and other
2:18:13 police Chiefs feel that in the case of
2:18:15 an emergency then those officers have an
2:18:18 additional uh uh flexibility and and
2:18:21 ability to support wherever they may
2:18:22 happen to that's good for the reg and
2:18:26 whether they're marked cars or not for
2:18:27 take-home um that would require just
2:18:30 funding and the budget that we're
2:18:32 proposing is is really focused on
2:18:35 replacement of existing at the moment
2:18:37 along with all the additions are really
2:18:39 funded by utility funds but there's no
2:18:41 new vehicles that really can be afforded
2:18:43 by the general fund in adding on to our
2:18:45 Fleet at this point
2:18:51 okay any other questions coming up on
2:18:54 fleet right
2:18:57 now um I know there was a question
2:19:01 related that a Community member had um
2:19:04 mentioned related to pervious surface
2:19:08 and a vehicle in the fleet plan that was
2:19:12 like $3.5 million uh related to prvious
2:19:15 surface cleaning um I'm not sure if that
2:19:18 I don't think that's in this 2025 2026
2:19:23 so maybe that's just something that you
2:19:25 can get back to us with information on
2:19:28 sure that would be great um and then the
2:19:30 other question I would have the transit
2:19:32 bus for the senior center I know the
2:19:34 county has a lot of programs with um
2:19:38 vans that um potentially could be
2:19:42 available have we looked into any
2:19:44 opportunities like that that could
2:19:47 potentially serve our needs I do know
2:19:49 our parks and community service
2:19:51 department has been active in seeking
2:19:54 those grants and I know they have been
2:19:56 watching I don't have any updates at the
2:19:57 moment if there's any availability but
2:19:59 we can look into that for sure or even
2:20:01 the King County vans that they have um
2:20:04 that they give away after they're done
2:20:06 using them and I think the challenge
2:20:08 anytime a agency's giving away a vehicle
2:20:10 that they deem no longer fills their
2:20:12 needs then there's often additional
2:20:14 maintenance costs to come along that so
2:20:17 again I think we try to be uh as smart
2:20:20 as this you know things that are free
2:20:21 rarely are
2:20:23 free I just want to be smart with u a
2:20:26 $28,000 purchase of a Transit bus so as
2:20:31 well um any other questions on
2:20:34 fleet okay thank you
2:20:42 autum other proposed changes
2:20:46 uh include funding the light rail study
2:20:50 so we be partial funding of the light
2:20:51 rail study as you recall the original
2:20:54 request was for
2:20:55 $400,000 and instead we're proposing A
2:20:58 reduced scope that reduced scope would
2:21:01 um the main deliverable would be to
2:21:05 develop locally preferred station
2:21:07 locations and Alignment options to
2:21:10 inform and streamline the planning for
2:21:11 Sound Transit so we'd be able to use a
2:21:14 consultant team to help us with that for
2:21:15 the 200,000 we take a lot more of the
2:21:18 work inhouse under this proposal so that
2:21:20 means that isqua staff would lead on the
2:21:23 public engagement and evaluation
2:21:26 activities to reduce um project costs as
2:21:29 well um it does delay in identifying and
2:21:34 updating the municipal code or zoning as
2:21:37 needed that was an analysis that we'd
2:21:39 have to take out at this time and
2:21:41 postpone uh for future
2:21:45 years and finally I'm sorry was there a
2:21:48 question
2:21:50 thank you uh council member Hall um
2:21:52 quick one around the light rail study
2:21:54 thank you um if I I don't actually
2:21:57 remember this being a huge priority in
2:22:00 our discussion last week in fact I think
2:22:01 there were a couple of us that even said
2:22:03 waiting might be might be a good thing
2:22:06 so I guess I'm I'm curious what the
2:22:08 administration's thinking was here
2:22:09 because I I suppose this so this is all
2:22:11 general fund a new new general fund
2:22:13 Revenue that we've identified this also
2:22:16 could have been used for other
2:22:16 priorities like Metroflex right so I'm
2:22:18 wondering if you could just kind of walk
2:22:19 us through
2:22:21 um your thinking and coming U refunding
2:22:24 this light rail study thank you I I see
2:22:27 City administrator Bob quitz has some
2:22:29 comments well I think uh the
2:22:31 administration reacted to your
2:22:33 conversation and I think that there was
2:22:34 a concern um as we were listening to the
2:22:37 council uh that that momentum is really
2:22:40 important and that to go for a year
2:22:44 without doing anything um was not
2:22:47 something we felt comfortable with after
2:22:48 the discussions that the council has so
2:22:50 we went back back to Minnie Dolly wall
2:22:52 our community planning and development
2:22:53 director and said what might be
2:22:55 something that's less that would keep
2:22:57 that momentum going continue uh to have
2:23:00 this issue not only before the public
2:23:02 but also I think what came out to me
2:23:04 from the council's discussion was Sound
2:23:06 Transit that you know we need to
2:23:08 continue to keep this in front of Sound
2:23:09 Transit as well as continue to have
2:23:11 dialogue with the community um Minnie is
2:23:14 on the line and I'll ask if she has
2:23:16 anything she wants to add because this
2:23:18 is really her recommendation back back
2:23:20 to the mayor uh to put that in so yes I
2:23:23 agreed that the council uh was kind of
2:23:26 veering from um you know further uh
2:23:29 support for something like this but it
2:23:30 really was from the issues that the
2:23:32 council raised that we went back and
2:23:34 said is there anything we can do and and
2:23:37 Minnie was able to come up with that
2:23:39 Minnie uh good morning uh to you in in
2:23:42 New Delhi and uh you care to add
2:23:45 anything uh sure no good evening council
2:23:48 members um that's exactly what it is you
2:23:50 know we went back and looked at the
2:23:52 light raail planning guide and the
2:23:55 experiences of other cities that have
2:23:57 had success with um being good partners
2:24:01 with Sound Transit if we have all our uh
2:24:04 information ahead of it otherwise we we
2:24:06 tend to react to something that's on
2:24:09 Transit as selected so um so that's
2:24:12 primarily I think I think we heard
2:24:14 Council raised uh Mor Island example
2:24:16 where it wasn't well well done we've
2:24:18 looked at Redmond's example where it was
2:24:21 or Kirkland's example so looking and and
2:24:24 other local cities experience of doing
2:24:27 this work earlier and puts isqua in a
2:24:30 good position where we don't have to um
2:24:33 react to something that's s Transit
2:24:35 proposes and then there's a uh you know
2:24:38 issue with the um community's desires
2:24:40 for the for the plus I think the biggest
2:24:43 other uh factor is coordination with the
2:24:46 over Crossing and
2:24:48 undercrossing uh work that is going to
2:24:50 to occur so our recommendation is at
2:24:53 least this puts the esqua in a better
2:24:55 position to have a locally preferred
2:24:57 station ahead of sound transits work
2:25:00 which will kick off in
2:25:03 2026 okay thank you y uh council member
2:25:08 or Deputy council president D Michelle
2:25:10 uh is it appropriate for me to comment
2:25:12 on this or should I wait for yeah just
2:25:13 questions
2:25:15 okay okay go ahead
2:25:20 and the last of the proposed changes we
2:25:22 have for you this evening is to fund
2:25:24 Downtown isqua
2:25:26 Association uh this proposal includes a
2:25:28 12% reduction to the uh City's
2:25:32 contribution out of the general fund um
2:25:35 which would mean in uh 2025
2:25:40 26,400 and in 2026
2:25:46 200 um we would also propose a reduction
2:25:50 in funds contributed through the Main
2:25:51 Street tax credit incentive
2:25:54 program from the 2024 level of $90,000
2:25:58 to um
2:26:01 67,500 in 2025 and 45,000 in
2:26:05 2026 before the city would offer this
2:26:08 funding we uh the administration
2:26:11 proposes to confirm with the Main Street
2:26:13 Association about Dia's eligibility for
2:26:15 the tax credit funds U before entering
2:26:18 into a memorandum of understanding in
2:26:20 for the tax credit funds and uh the
2:26:23 general fund
2:26:27 support and next I'd like to talk about
2:26:30 timing and next steps so here we are in
2:26:32 the budget uh timeline November 18th
2:26:35 with budget
2:26:36 deliberations next week we'll be coming
2:26:38 back to with uh property tax adoption
2:26:42 and we'll be discussing revenues at that
2:26:44 meeting and then looking for the final
2:26:47 budget hearing to happen on December 2nd
2:26:49 if Council is comfortable then um we
2:26:52 would propose to adopt the budget after
2:26:56 the final budget hearing if Council
2:26:58 feels like you still need more uh time
2:27:01 to deliberate you have more questions
2:27:03 more concerns with the proposed budget
2:27:06 then we have December 3rd and uh final
2:27:09 adoption could happen on December
2:27:12 9th so again the direction that we seek
2:27:15 from you tonight is whether or not you
2:27:17 agree with the administration's
2:27:18 proposals to fund
2:27:20 Metroflex make no other changes to the
2:27:23 fleet fund levels fund the light rail
2:27:25 study with a reduced scope fund Dia uh
2:27:29 and also whether we should plan to adopt
2:27:32 the budget on December 2nd or December
2:27:36 9th thank you okay looking for any
2:27:39 questions at this point uh council
2:27:41 member
2:27:42 hunt at the last meeting there was
2:27:45 mentioned that the remainder of the
2:27:47 contract I think for Metroflex got us
2:27:50 through partway through
2:27:52 2025 um so when you in in the proposed
2:27:57 budget though we're funding the full
2:27:58 year of 2025 including the remainder of
2:28:00 the contract plus the rest of 2025 or is
2:28:02 it really only those couple months that
2:28:05 we're that we have to pay because we are
2:28:07 in an existing contract is this
2:28:09 extending beyond what we're required to
2:28:11 do by a contract or just that and so is
2:28:14 it a full year or is it it's just
2:28:16 fulfilling the contract I believe it is
2:28:19 a full year but I'm going to ask Emily
2:28:21 Moon who I believe is on the line if she
2:28:23 can confirm it's for the full year
2:28:27 um but I believe it's really just that's
2:28:31 the intention is is through the the
2:28:33 remainder of the contract and I'll just
2:28:35 reference my comments from the other
2:28:38 night was referencing the fact that we
2:28:39 would have to have the 180 day um
2:28:42 announcement period and so we were on
2:28:45 the hook because we haven't been able to
2:28:47 make that through the end of May or June
2:28:50 whatever that was and so that wasn't the
2:28:53 end of the contract that was just the
2:28:55 earliest we could get out of the
2:28:57 contract so our commitment with this
2:29:00 amendment change to the proposed budget
2:29:02 is to continue the contract in addition
2:29:05 uh we also need to sort through next
2:29:07 steps beyond that and so uh we'll commit
2:29:10 at least orally this evening uh that we
2:29:13 will do that and come back to the
2:29:14 council uh probably uh maybe second
2:29:17 quarter next year to say okay okay the
2:29:21 contract the Pilot's coming to an end
2:29:22 we've continued to talk with uh K County
2:29:25 Transit this is what it's going to take
2:29:27 to continue it moving forward we also
2:29:28 may know about the grants at that point
2:29:31 if the grant frees up these dollars then
2:29:33 that may be money available for the
2:29:34 second year of the bium uh to continue
2:29:37 this Beyond this but what we're
2:29:38 proposing this evening is to fund this
2:29:41 through the the pilot and I see the
2:29:43 Public Work Director
2:29:46 on that not
2:29:48 H oh okay came up under Andrew there's
2:29:51 uh and I would just ask director Moon if
2:29:54 I misspoke to correct me otherwise I
2:29:56 believe that's where we're
2:29:59 at evening yes the contract runs until
2:30:02 the end of December 2025 so this funny
2:30:06 would take us to the end of the
2:30:09 contract thank
2:30:11 you okay uh council member
2:30:15 Hall council member Hull
2:30:18 sorry um
2:30:23 um a few so a couple just um other
2:30:27 questions um based on kind of the Q&A at
2:30:29 the end of the packet so um thank you to
2:30:33 whomever wrote the lengthy response on
2:30:35 the CPD active Transportation um study I
2:30:39 I appreciate it I just had no clue what
2:30:40 it was and wanted some more information
2:30:42 seems like significant and important
2:30:44 work um that needs to be done and we're
2:30:46 so I think if I read it right we're
2:30:48 relying on hopefully getting this grant
2:30:50 to be able to fund that so I was just
2:30:51 wondering and this doesn't have to be a
2:30:53 now answer either but what what's our
2:30:56 plan because it seems so significant in
2:30:58 terms of something we need to do in the
2:31:00 near term what what's our plan if we
2:31:01 don't get the grant would it be to
2:31:03 continue to look for more grant
2:31:05 opportunities or would we try to find
2:31:07 cost savings and look within or do we
2:31:09 not see it as a near-term
2:31:12 priority we would continue to look for
2:31:14 grant opportunities uh and see how those
2:31:17 grant opportunities may change over time
2:31:21 um we have seen more grants for active
2:31:24 Transportation Planning uh in the recent
2:31:27 years and so that's something we're
2:31:29 still hopeful that we can achieve grant
2:31:31 funding for if we cannot find grant
2:31:33 funding then uh we would look to Future
2:31:38 years for funding that
2:31:40 work okay thank you appreciate the
2:31:42 clarification and then two more points
2:31:44 of clarification so I submitted a
2:31:47 question about kind of a future
2:31:48 conversation I'd like us to have about
2:31:50 um Public Safety revenues um knowing if
2:31:55 we were to actually do something in the
2:31:56 future we would account for those
2:31:58 revenues through a budget amendment but
2:32:00 is there any reason why we would need to
2:32:02 budget anything for like staff time or
2:32:05 Community engagement for having the
2:32:07 conversation in the first
2:32:10 place um we don't we don't believe that
2:32:13 such cost would be really significant um
2:32:15 if any to budget for we would be using
2:32:18 existing staff uh resources to be able
2:32:21 to have those conversations before
2:32:23 action is taken and the same could be S
2:32:26 then around this conversation we want to
2:32:28 have for East Side Fire and Rescue
2:32:29 around the fire permit fees then we
2:32:31 probably have capacity and
2:32:33 existing space to have those
2:32:35 conversations without budgeting any I I
2:32:37 believe that's the desire as well and
2:32:40 that's absolutely the desire but I think
2:32:41 the scope of that is a little bit too
2:32:43 unknown to give you a 100% um
2:32:46 declaration that we would not need
2:32:48 outside resources to do that uh clearly
2:32:51 public safy as we look at 25 the
2:32:53 administration and the priorities that
2:32:55 mayor paully has for next year um
2:32:58 there's a whole variety of Public Safety
2:33:01 uh jail fire uh issues that we're going
2:33:04 to have to have front and center at the
2:33:05 very beginning of 25 uh so that we can
2:33:08 come to the council you know probably
2:33:10 mid year next year uh and have some
2:33:12 serious conversations because certainly
2:33:14 while we're we're very pleased that this
2:33:17 budget seems to be coming together in
2:33:18 order to meet those needs um we are not
2:33:22 uh convinced that revenue streams will
2:33:25 support them in future years and so we
2:33:27 want to get the council talking about
2:33:29 that uh late spring early summer should
2:33:31 there be any midby anym changes that are
2:33:34 needed um and then beyond but it's going
2:33:36 to be as we think about priorities for
2:33:38 next year that's a top five uh looking
2:33:42 at those Revenue issues uh
2:33:44 safety police
2:33:47 enir thank you good I'm glad to hear and
2:33:49 actually just thought of another
2:33:50 question again just thinking about it
2:33:52 off to my head so I apologize I didn't
2:33:54 send this in
2:33:57 um the memo said we were largely in
2:34:00 agreement around delaying the housing
2:34:01 and parking studies um I had some um
2:34:06 suggestion around could we look at kind
2:34:09 of the housing and parking work plan
2:34:11 that we had a slide detailing that Dr
2:34:14 Dolly wall went through or actually I
2:34:16 can't remember who did it um around the
2:34:18 work that were already played planing in
2:34:20 housing and parking and and kind of as a
2:34:21 justification for delaying the the
2:34:23 studies which made which makes sense
2:34:25 logically um but had thought maybe we
2:34:28 can look at that list and some of the
2:34:30 other things that we're interested as a
2:34:31 council and looking at and kind of
2:34:33 having the policy discussion about what
2:34:35 makes sense recognizing that some of
2:34:37 those are required I was just curious if
2:34:39 the administration had kind of a
2:34:40 response to having that exercise on
2:34:42 Council or did we feel like really the
2:34:45 stuff that we had was required and so we
2:34:47 don't have capacity to consider other
2:34:48 things like FTE or or the other Eco
2:34:51 Northwest kind of
2:34:55 recommendations um I would invite uh
2:34:59 Community planning director mini Dolly
2:35:01 wall if you have
2:35:04 comments sure um you know we can
2:35:07 certainly have whatever conversation we
2:35:10 want to have about the work plan with
2:35:12 council with Council committee however
2:35:14 you desire uh at this time yes it's a
2:35:17 staff capacity issue the required um
2:35:21 items that we need to get through uh we
2:35:23 need to get through but I think also we
2:35:25 want to give some time for some of the
2:35:29 MF expansions that the council has
2:35:31 agreed to you know with the Pioneer
2:35:33 program with the shelter development to
2:35:35 see if there's anything that we can
2:35:37 learn from that um and and so we put in
2:35:41 the work and effort uh to calibrate it
2:35:44 accordingly the other part I think we we
2:35:46 mentioned in our presentation last time
2:35:48 was uh a lot of development feasibility
2:35:51 we learned from the Eco Northwest work
2:35:53 was tied to our parking requirements so
2:35:55 now that with the state Bill we Cann not
2:35:57 mandate um any sort of structured
2:36:00 parking that significantly improves
2:36:02 development feasibility for uh develop
2:36:05 you know for for housing and other uh
2:36:07 situations and so before we roll out
2:36:10 more incentives uh we want to see what
2:36:13 what are we getting out of the MFD that
2:36:15 we've already expanded how does this
2:36:17 parking uh play a role into it before we
2:36:20 take up any policy work related to doing
2:36:22 further work that was sort of our
2:36:24 justification for uh maybe in the next
2:36:26 two years we give it some time for
2:36:28 Council actions to play out uh before we
2:36:30 start tweaking
2:36:32 them and then we had an interim plan to
2:36:35 work in-house with Arch on the um uh
2:36:39 development density bonus program to see
2:36:41 if we can look at that specific uh
2:36:44 program which was also one of the
2:36:46 recommendations from Eco Northwest
2:36:48 report
2:36:50 oh that sorry just to clarify that item
2:36:52 about the development density bonus
2:36:54 program that would be something we
2:36:55 consider in the bium with
2:36:58 Arch H correct so there's no funding
2:37:00 request asked for it at this time it IT
2:37:03 staff will continue to look at whether
2:37:05 there's any efficiencies we can build
2:37:07 into that
2:37:08 program okay all right so before more
2:37:11 incentives evaluate what we've done and
2:37:13 really understand some of these new
2:37:15 requirements that actually might make
2:37:16 some of the things we want to consider
2:37:18 move point okay that makes sense correct
2:37:21 and staff capacity correct and staff
2:37:22 capacity okay thank
2:37:24 you always staff capacity um any other
2:37:30 questions not seeing any though I will
2:37:34 always look at council member Hall and
2:37:36 see if anything jumps up last minute but
2:37:38 you've already been
2:37:40 covered um so we have a moment for uh
2:37:45 Community comment um public comment here
2:37:48 and so I will see uh anybody online if
2:37:53 you're on the phone star three you're on
2:37:55 a computer raise your hand icon or send
2:37:58 the host a chat message and I will
2:38:01 obviously look into the room and see if
2:38:04 there's anybody here looking to make a
2:38:08 comment nothing either way okay
2:38:11 fantastic then we're looking for
2:38:14 feedback and so the direction needed
2:38:17 from the administration we've got five
2:38:20 specific areas that we definitely want
2:38:21 to make sure that we cover but we are
2:38:24 Council feel free to ask others um
2:38:28 Deputy council president D
2:38:30 Michelle thank you so uh we'll start
2:38:33 with the
2:38:35 Metroflex uh and I want to thank uh
2:38:37 people for the creative way that you've
2:38:39 put that together and yes I support that
2:38:42 um I just like to make some general
2:38:44 remarks about how we are approaching
2:38:47 these Transit and transportation
2:38:50 projects um you know we are one of 39
2:38:54 Suburban cities and U then there's the
2:38:57 Big Kahuna uh the city of Seattle and
2:39:00 they all go to Metro with their hands
2:39:03 out and wanting services and wanting uh
2:39:07 improvements to their Transit and uh I
2:39:10 think our approach here and also when we
2:39:13 go to Sound Transit the same situation
2:39:15 is there everybody's asking them for
2:39:17 everything we have demonstrated tonight
2:39:20 if we approve this that we are a strong
2:39:24 supporter of uh first mile Last Mile
2:39:27 Services in our community that we back
2:39:30 the Metroflex program and I think we
2:39:32 need to take that same attitude for the
2:39:36 light rail study and position ourselves
2:39:38 strongly if we are not fully committed
2:39:42 to um these programs we're going to
2:39:45 somebody else will be fully committed
2:39:48 and they will get those services so I
2:39:50 think we've just got to um we've got to
2:39:53 stay the course when it comes to uh our
2:39:56 backing of uh transit services and our
2:39:58 backing of the light rail study and our
2:40:01 commitment to bringing that light rail
2:40:03 station to isqua um I thought that uh
2:40:07 when we had this previous discussion
2:40:08 last week that many as I said made an
2:40:11 excellent case for holding on to this
2:40:13 light rail study um she gave the example
2:40:16 of Mercer Island as opposed to other
2:40:19 places are is our voice going to be
2:40:21 heard or is it sound transit's voice
2:40:23 that's going to be heard uh we want our
2:40:25 voice to be heard our our community
2:40:27 wants our voice to be heard and uh we
2:40:31 get there by getting ahead of the curve
2:40:33 by being on top of this of this process
2:40:37 rather than reacting to whatever sound
2:40:39 transis brings to us so in both cases
2:40:42 for Metroflex and for the light rail
2:40:45 study we just need to Bear down and stay
2:40:47 the course um when it comes to Metroflex
2:40:51 uh we have one year we've heard from
2:40:54 inumerable people and I've continued to
2:40:57 hear comments from community members on
2:40:59 Metroflex this is really something that
2:41:01 people are very concerned about really
2:41:04 want to see happen so as we go through
2:41:07 2025 I hope that we will continue our
2:41:10 discussions with Metro about how they
2:41:13 might be able to step up at some point
2:41:16 and help us out or can we get grants or
2:41:20 in other words let's be looking at 2026
2:41:23 and see what we can do to ensure the
2:41:26 sustainability of this program going
2:41:28 forward so we've solved it for one year
2:41:31 and we solve it for the
2:41:33 future
2:41:34 um thank you to Autumn for the um
2:41:38 explanation about the fleet um fund and
2:41:41 yes I would go ahead and approve that
2:41:43 with no other changes so I think there
2:41:46 is a good case for that and um uh again
2:41:49 with the DIA fund um uh I appreciate
2:41:54 that the Administration has uh come up
2:41:57 with a new proposal there again can we
2:42:00 continue to look for or can we assist
2:42:03 Dia in looking for other sources of
2:42:05 funding I know they're eligible for ltac
2:42:08 funds for example um and are there other
2:42:11 sources that um we can work in
2:42:14 partnership with them to see if we could
2:42:16 fill the Gap that's that's been created
2:42:19 so um those are my comments thank you
2:42:26 much no um okay we're good on all of
2:42:30 that um who wants to go
2:42:35 next council member Joe then council
2:42:38 member hunt thank you um I'll start from
2:42:41 the bottom just to be
2:42:43 different um my sense is that we could
2:42:47 adopt the budget on December second
2:42:49 unless I hear some different uh
2:42:52 dissenting voices from my colleagues on
2:42:54 on that one I appreciate the funding
2:42:57 proposal for DM would support that um
2:43:00 appreciate the light rail study staying
2:43:02 on the front burner rather than the back
2:43:05 burner and support the $200,000 from the
2:43:07 general fund uh be devoted to that light
2:43:10 rail study um I also support making no
2:43:13 other changes to Fleet I think that uh
2:43:16 the uh experts in the ground Gage and
2:43:20 the uh experts that are watching the
2:43:22 entire plan have given us ample
2:43:25 justification for keeping that plan uh
2:43:27 in place um I want to just spend a
2:43:30 little bit of time on the Metroflex uh
2:43:32 briefly as a point of personal privilege
2:43:34 I guess uh I went to a the the garage
2:43:37 event that I think I told you about and
2:43:39 uh it was all about Civics and the young
2:43:42 people that were there were saying that
2:43:44 they didn't feel their voice was being
2:43:46 heard they thought decisions were being
2:43:48 made by adults that impacted their lives
2:43:50 that they could didn't have a voice in
2:43:53 um at the end of the conversation I was
2:43:55 able to give council president Walsh the
2:43:58 floor and she was able to talk about our
2:44:01 conversation that we had just had uh two
2:44:03 nights be the night before uh to talk
2:44:06 about Metroflex and our desire to keep
2:44:08 that uh alive and that program alive and
2:44:12 the whole tener of the room and the
2:44:14 whole attitude of the room changed to
2:44:18 hey our voices matter matter because we
2:44:20 had those two young people on Tuesday
2:44:22 night that came and talked to us and
2:44:24 said how important Metroflex was to them
2:44:26 and we had Simon tonight talk about how
2:44:29 important Metroflex was to him and now
2:44:32 they think I I hope they think and
2:44:34 understand that their voice does matter
2:44:36 and by coming and talking to us and
2:44:38 other government bodies they can make a
2:44:40 difference because they are a member of
2:44:41 the community that belongs to this
2:44:43 community and their voice makes a
2:44:45 difference so um I fully support the
2:44:48 Metroflex funding
2:44:49 I think it's good for our young people
2:44:51 those with disabilities those that are
2:44:53 elderly and might not have other
2:44:54 Transportation means I give great thanks
2:44:57 to the administration for finding the
2:44:59 funding there and making that a priority
2:45:02 for this budget thank you very
2:45:04 much M
2:45:08 hunt thank
2:45:10 you on Metroflex we are proposing to
2:45:15 fund the part of this program that we
2:45:18 are contracted to fund and I believe
2:45:24 strongly that if we want to demonstrate
2:45:26 that we heard the voices of the
2:45:27 community that we heard those students
2:45:29 who came that we heard our hopelink
2:45:33 representative who came and spoke to the
2:45:34 importance of this for seniors um that
2:45:37 we you know that we took into account
2:45:41 the fact that we have seen on the map
2:45:43 that our lowincome communities are the
2:45:46 groups that are are really those
2:45:48 low-income folks are really the ones who
2:45:49 are um heavily using this service which
2:45:52 was a big part of our intent um when we
2:45:55 think about that what we want to do with
2:45:57 this budget is focus on the things that
2:45:59 are most impacting people's day-to-day
2:46:01 and really also focusing in on equity
2:46:03 and sustainability this is one of the
2:46:05 very few things that we are able to do
2:46:06 to help give people an option for
2:46:09 transit in our community um and I think
2:46:13 for all those reasons we're doing a
2:46:16 two-year budget we should fund this
2:46:18 program for the two years in the budget
2:46:20 uh what we are doing right now I think
2:46:22 is inadequate it is what we are required
2:46:25 to do because we're in an existing
2:46:26 contract so I uh appreciate my
2:46:29 colleagues comments about support of
2:46:31 this program and I think to to
2:46:33 demonstrate our commitment we should do
2:46:35 that the other thing that I was thinking
2:46:37 about is uh we all did Equity training
2:46:41 um and as part of that training I
2:46:45 remember that our um the person who was
2:46:49 was giving us that training which I
2:46:51 reflect on often saying that uh the you
2:46:55 know folks that are requiring transit to
2:46:57 get somewhere they may not be or or
2:46:59 folks that are students that are using
2:47:01 this Transit service they may not be
2:47:03 able to um Advocate as regularly and so
2:47:07 you know we need to take into account
2:47:08 that we heard all of those voices and I
2:47:10 think it I do not think we should expect
2:47:13 folks to have to come back in 6 months
2:47:16 next year to Advocate again I think we
2:47:18 should take into account that people
2:47:19 took time out of their schedules um for
2:47:22 this we heard them we're doing a
2:47:23 two-year budget we should fund it for
2:47:28 years on the fleet fund I I do think we
2:47:31 could phase into that by um you know
2:47:34 taking into account some of the oldest
2:47:36 fund oldest Vehicles first uh and it is
2:47:41 a big change from the way we've done
2:47:43 Fleet in the past I think that is a
2:47:44 potential savings that we could use to
2:47:49 Metroflex um I don't want to make a
2:47:52 recommendation without any any
2:47:54 suggestion there
2:47:57 um funding the uh Light Rail study is
2:48:00 another potential area I don't think we
2:48:04 th this
2:48:05 wasn't my uh when I made my comments at
2:48:09 the last meeting I was expecting this to
2:48:10 come back with with no funding for the
2:48:13 light rail for the next two years um I
2:48:16 was just looking back at my notes from
2:48:20 conversation
2:48:22 um I think we have done great work with
2:48:24 the community on early goal setting I
2:48:27 think that this is something that we can
2:48:30 move a little bit slower on because I
2:48:32 think the light rail overall is is going
2:48:35 slower so I I don't think prioritizing
2:48:38 the spending of
2:48:39 $200,000 on this over the next two years
2:48:42 would be my top priority and given all
2:48:45 of the other things that we're cutting I
2:48:47 I respect that
2:48:49 that there is an importance to tracking
2:48:52 this but I think over the next two years
2:48:54 and given our budget
2:48:56 situation I would work on doing this in
2:49:00 house or maybe adjusting if our
2:49:02 circumstance changes but the information
2:49:04 we have right now I think we can can put
2:49:07 this on the back
2:49:08 burner um I agree with the funding of
2:49:11 Dia and appreciate the uh the change
2:49:14 that was made there um also appreciate
2:49:16 all of the comments that have been
2:49:18 coming in about the uh about the
2:49:20 services provided by
2:49:23 Dia and um as far as December 2nd or
2:49:27 December 9th I think it seems like we're
2:49:30 we're all aligned uh there has there has
2:49:33 really been in this budget the one thing
2:49:36 that we've heard and I've heard too from
2:49:38 so many community members the one thing
2:49:39 that we I've heard is really about the
2:49:41 Metroflex um and so you know I think if
2:49:43 we can address that that would be great
2:49:46 there's not a lot of other pieces that
2:49:48 I've heard um that and the community uh
2:49:52 Human Services funding is another one um
2:49:55 so I think if we can address that I
2:49:57 think that would be that would be really
2:49:59 important um if the administration needs
2:50:02 more time than December 2nd then that
2:50:04 would be a consideration but other than
2:50:06 that I think December 2nd seems Seems in
2:50:10 cards got dueling microphones over here
2:50:14 think I saw council member Hall a moment
2:50:18 earlier
2:50:25 um all right everyone seems to be going
2:50:27 in different I'm going to go random
2:50:29 order now so we mix it up a little bit
2:50:31 so starting with Fleet fund um I I just
2:50:35 want to say I agree with the direction
2:50:37 of the fleet fund that's been proposed
2:50:39 um I think what's stuck with me the most
2:50:42 is what the mayor concluded and what you
2:50:44 said today what the mayor concluded with
2:50:46 at the last meeting which is just the
2:50:47 picture of the fleet fund isn't great we
2:50:50 committed to looking at the picture and
2:50:51 it's not great and it's not going to
2:50:53 feel good to correct these positions but
2:50:56 um it's better to be making these
2:50:58 Investments sooner rather than later um
2:51:01 and all the more important to get
2:51:03 started now because you mapped out kind
2:51:05 of in the memo how implementation is
2:51:08 quite a while so um I buy the argument
2:51:10 around Fleet fund um I completely agree
2:51:13 with council member hunt on the light
2:51:15 rail study um I
2:51:19 understand um I understand the argument
2:51:21 that keeping the ball rolling in some
2:51:23 way even if it's not the same way it's
2:51:25 very similar to like the equity
2:51:26 assessment that we were right is is good
2:51:30 but um I think that there are other
2:51:33 community priorities that stand out as
2:51:37 more important in this bium to me like
2:51:39 Metroflex and things like that so that's
2:51:42 where I'm that's where I feel like on
2:51:44 the light rail study I don't think that
2:51:46 we would necessarily lose out on too
2:51:49 much um within this bium and that seemed
2:51:51 to be demonstrated to us in the previous
2:51:53 meeting um as well um with regard to DIA
2:51:59 um agree with the new approach here um
2:52:01 thank you and thank you it it was nice
2:52:03 to hear from other people um in the
2:52:04 community um about them
2:52:09 um uh I haven't talked about Metroflex
2:52:12 and that's because of the last question
2:52:15 whether or not to adopt December 2nd or
2:52:16 9th um I'm
2:52:19 I'm going back and forth on this one
2:52:22 because there are a couple things that
2:52:23 are on my mind um
2:52:25 Metroflex it would be great to fund it
2:52:29 for the two years um but I think the
2:52:32 approach of funding it for 2025 is fine
2:52:35 knowing that it seems like we're fairly
2:52:36 aligned and supportive of Metroflex on
2:52:38 this Council so the administration
2:52:40 should be prepared to come forth with a
2:52:42 budget amendment at some point to fund
2:52:44 2026 finding that savings elsewhere
2:52:47 which path you decide to take doesn't
2:52:49 necessarily matter to me as long as it's
2:52:52 funded for the two years because if
2:52:55 right now we decide we we don't want to
2:52:57 fund the second year until we find grant
2:53:00 funding or those other external funding
2:53:03 that makes sense understanding that
2:53:04 we're going to do a budget amendment but
2:53:05 the risk is we're going to have to find
2:53:07 savings at some point because I'm going
2:53:09 to want to see a budget amendment to
2:53:11 support two years of Metroflex
2:53:15 um hopefully that made some sort of
2:53:18 sense can retouch on retroflex a little
2:53:20 bit too the other things that were on my
2:53:22 mind which is why I was thinking okay
2:53:23 maybe December 9th was the housing a
2:53:26 parking study although I um by what um
2:53:30 Dr Dolly wall said um yes we can have
2:53:33 the conversation about like what are our
2:53:35 priorities here but maybe we look and
2:53:38 evaluate what we've already done
2:53:40 understand some of these new
2:53:40 requirements acknowledge staff capacity
2:53:43 and CPD um and so on so I'm okay um
2:53:45 delaying those um the only other thing
2:53:48 that made me think about maybe December
2:53:50 9th is I wasn't quite I felt like I need
2:53:53 I feel like I still need more
2:53:55 information about the parks and open
2:53:56 space acquisition program um I would
2:53:59 really like I it's good to know that
2:54:01 these funds are largely like restricted
2:54:03 looks like there was like re and park
2:54:05 impact fees so like my first idea was
2:54:08 like Metroflex clearly that's not
2:54:10 something we can do with these funds
2:54:14 but I just want to get into a little bit
2:54:16 more like how often we're spending it
2:54:18 down and by Munch and I completely get
2:54:20 that it's for opportunities that come up
2:54:22 and you can't anticipate that but I also
2:54:24 want to just make sure we're having conf
2:54:25 I have confidence that we are
2:54:28 appropriately funding the fund at the
2:54:31 level that it should be year-over-year
2:54:32 considering that there are other
2:54:34 important Community priorities that we
2:54:35 also have to take in account to so I
2:54:38 don't know if that would require another
2:54:40 meeting to get information or if that
2:54:42 could be kind of year-over-year
2:54:43 information could be put in a memo I
2:54:46 guess maybe I'll stop here if you have
2:54:48 any kind of initial response to
2:54:51 that council president if I may uh we
2:54:55 plan to have an executive session on the
2:54:56 25th on that
2:54:59 topic on Park and open space acquisition
2:55:03 historical use of the fund or and and
2:55:08 and current
2:55:10 opportunities that are present
2:55:14 today okay yeah that's what I thought I
2:55:16 was but more current I mean if the
2:55:17 convers ation that seems like it would
2:55:20 be more of a policy conversation outside
2:55:21 of executive session I guess what I want
2:55:23 to know is like where has it been over
2:55:25 the years how often are we drawing it
2:55:26 down to close to zero where we have to
2:55:29 kind of refill the bucket and you know
2:55:32 is there space
2:55:34 there consider using funds for other
2:55:37 things knowing that it's kind of
2:55:38 restricted use it for everything and I
2:55:41 have difficulty in Open Session
2:55:43 addressing this really specifically
2:55:45 other than to say this will be a topic
2:55:47 of conversation okay week okay then I
2:55:49 I'll look and I guess we will see where
2:55:51 we're at after that conversation
2:55:54 okay well then I'll look forward to that
2:55:59 um uh the only other thing I just wanted
2:56:02 to put on radar was just thank you again
2:56:05 for the answer about um the needs of the
2:56:07 core and something that continues to
2:56:09 worry me is just the downstream impacts
2:56:11 of our investments and in public safety
2:56:13 and police so um if staff needs to at
2:56:17 any time during the B come to us for
2:56:19 additional Court Investments that would
2:56:21 be something I would wanting to
2:56:23 prioritize be really mindful
2:56:25 of put that up okay thank you council
2:56:30 member Ms
2:56:32 thanks what a difference among month
2:56:35 month ago we were talking about how
2:56:37 nobody ever comes to city council
2:56:38 meeting anymore postco we just can't get
2:56:41 anybody to come into a city council
2:56:43 meeting we just have to come up with
2:56:44 something that people really care about
2:56:46 right so uh I am I am in I'm in the camp
2:56:51 for I would do Metroflex two years if I
2:56:53 could wave a magic wand but I am also
2:56:56 convinced that the Administration has
2:56:58 heard loud and clear how this Council
2:56:59 feels about Metroflex so I'm also
2:57:02 convinced that next year they will
2:57:03 figure out how to make 2026 work but I
2:57:06 would I would do two years if it was up
2:57:07 to me but I'm I'm fine with one year
2:57:10 because like I said confident the
2:57:11 Administration has hurt us uh Fleet fund
2:57:14 is fine uh Light Rail
2:57:17 study uh I would kill this I would throw
2:57:20 the my my clog into the machine as the
2:57:24 leite that I am right now I we funded
2:57:27 st3 almost 10 years ago we're all paying
2:57:31 tons of money on it we put such faith in
2:57:35 down transit when we funded that knowing
2:57:38 that we weren't going to get most of the
2:57:39 benefit but we thought we were going to
2:57:41 get some benefit and then what's
2:57:43 happened in the intervening years is I
2:57:46 mean they've come here and they've said
2:57:48 we know that 554 is like so much we have
2:57:51 so much more traffic going into Seattle
2:57:53 than we do into bellw but guess what
2:57:54 we're going to make you go to Bellevue
2:57:55 anyhow I don't want to go to Bellevue I
2:57:57 want to go to Seattle Seattle's where
2:57:58 it's all happens so there's this long
2:58:01 history I think of Sound Transit not
2:58:03 listening to us and by the way they did
2:58:05 that back when we had somebody on the
2:58:07 Sound Transit board how much worse will
2:58:09 it be if we don't have anybody on the
2:58:10 board so I need guard rails before we
2:58:14 start getting within a mile of what that
2:58:17 station is going to look like like I
2:58:18 need guard rails so that they won't just
2:58:20 do the thing that's cheapest we have so
2:58:22 little control in these billions of
2:58:25 dollars that are going on and they will
2:58:27 do what I mean they will build what they
2:58:30 can um to address Transit and if that's
2:58:33 2500 parking stalls I mean just go look
2:58:36 at Atlanta look at the look at the end
2:58:38 of the lines of all the MARTA stations
2:58:40 it's all two giant 1250 parking lot
2:58:45 that's what they'll build because that's
2:58:46 what's cheapest um so I need to I need
2:58:50 to know that there are guard rails on
2:58:52 what they can build here in isqua before
2:58:54 I want to get within a mile of of that
2:58:58 because we're we'll get what they want
2:59:00 to give us because there's so much money
2:59:02 involved and they'll say well how dare
2:59:04 you hold up the poor residents of
2:59:06 samamish and Northbend and snami for
2:59:09 they getting Transit if you just put in
2:59:11 2500 parking stalls you know all those
2:59:14 folks will be able to come to isqua and
2:59:16 then get on the train and we all know
2:59:18 that that's not what the our community
2:59:20 wants so I have I continue to have huge
2:59:22 concerns and I would zero this one out
2:59:29 uh I'm on record for saying I I want to
2:59:31 have all the organizations that we give
2:59:33 money to come in on a regular basis and
2:59:36 talk to us about what they're doing I
2:59:38 hear loud and clear that there's a lot
2:59:40 of folks in the community uh that value
2:59:42 Dia I still want to know what we do with
2:59:45 our investments with Dia and what we get
2:59:48 for our investments with Dia but I am
2:59:49 supportive of this move going forward I
2:59:52 I hear the community on it and then
2:59:54 adopting on December 2nd versus December
2:59:56 9th I I don't care um we the only things
2:59:59 that we do as a council is we write
3:00:02 checks and we write laws right and the
3:00:04 this is the writing check part and it's
3:00:06 most important part of our job and if it
3:00:08 you know we'll sell no wine before it's
3:00:10 time to uh for those of you who are old
3:00:12 enough to remember the the Ernest and
3:00:14 Julio Gallow uh commercials from the
3:00:16 1970s and
3:00:20 sorry sorry Zach uh but you know we
3:00:23 we'll we'll be done when we're done
3:00:27 thanks okay I'm going to throw my
3:00:30 comments in there and then we'll see if
3:00:31 there's any round twos um I'm also going
3:00:34 to go random just because I can that's
3:00:37 how I wrote my notes um Fleet I'd like
3:00:41 the fleet plan and the concept to come
3:00:44 to a council committee and I think we
3:00:46 really need to work this over I
3:00:50 appreciate that there is a lot of
3:00:52 backlogged need here and I'm not willing
3:00:56 to take that out of the budget but I'm
3:00:59 also just not ready for us to make those
3:01:04 purchases yet um I I really just feel
3:01:08 like we need to be able to get into that
3:01:12 much like we do with our Capital
3:01:15 Improvement plan um and really have an
3:01:17 understanding of how this serves the
3:01:20 community um and whether each of these
3:01:22 purchases are really on the right scale
3:01:25 so I would love to get into that but you
3:01:28 know me I'm behind anywhere where we're
3:01:31 behind on maintenance um I'm going to
3:01:34 support that I just want us to do it
3:01:38 fully and really understand what we're
3:01:40 doing there um Dia I appreciate that
3:01:44 we've come together and you know made
3:01:47 some movement
3:01:48 here I really think that anything that
3:01:52 is a um utility tax
3:01:55 credit should be given um and stay local
3:02:01 rather than going to the state and not
3:02:03 have a 25% reduction for
3:02:06 2025 um that being said it's a few
3:02:09 thousand dollar so I'm not going to put
3:02:12 my foot down over that um the areas
3:02:16 where I will put my foot down on and
3:02:18 where I think you've heard the most
3:02:20 contention is Metroflex and the LI rail
3:02:22 study so
3:02:24 my thoughts align most with um council
3:02:29 member hunt I think our community has
3:02:31 strongly talked about their support and
3:02:34 it is the people with the least ability
3:02:37 to Advocate who are the users of this
3:02:42 service and so the fact that we have
3:02:44 gotten comments on this at all and that
3:02:47 most of the com comments have been on
3:02:48 that um really indicates the importance
3:02:51 of this service is just getting off the
3:02:53 ground um and I really think that our
3:02:57 community wants us to fund it not just
3:02:59 for 2025 but for both years of the
3:03:02 budget um I Heard council member Hall
3:03:06 and council member Mart say hey we told
3:03:08 the administration what's important to
3:03:10 us so we think they'll come back to it
3:03:13 we told them on the 12th this was
3:03:15 important to us and what they came back
3:03:17 back with was a one-year funding uh our
3:03:22 job is to do the hard
3:03:25 things and to set a two-year budget
3:03:29 because that's the way that we do things
3:03:32 and I think
3:03:33 it's a much better
3:03:37 situation to make the hard decisions
3:03:39 about what we would cut um to fund our
3:03:42 priorities than
3:03:44 to and like if we get a grant we're
3:03:47 going to a budget amendment that would
3:03:48 just remove the funding for that and it
3:03:51 would go back to the general fund the if
3:03:53 your proposal is do a one-year funding
3:03:56 and then we'll come through then we're
3:03:58 just saying we're going to have to find
3:04:00 that money in the future so I think it's
3:04:03 our responsibility to find that money
3:04:05 now if it's a priority toward that
3:04:09 idea I really cannot support spending
3:04:15 $200,000 just to tell Sound Transit that
3:04:17 we're were serious about something that
3:04:19 we voted for as a community for
3:04:22 st3 and spend $200,000 of our money now
3:04:26 to plan for something for
3:04:29 2041 um we have Community needs now and
3:04:33 we have Community priorities now that
3:04:36 are super important the idea that we're
3:04:38 doing this so that we can coordinate
3:04:40 with an overend Crossing um that has no
3:04:44 funding there is there is nothing out
3:04:46 there that nobody is going to plot money
3:04:49 down in our hands to say here you guys
3:04:51 need another over Ender Crossing for the
3:04:54 I90 for the city so um I really think
3:05:00 that we need to take a step back from
3:05:02 that and
3:05:04 recognize that we've got some really
3:05:07 important needs right now um what I
3:05:11 would like to do is fun Metroflex for
3:05:14 the two years and I think we can do that
3:05:16 by eliminating the light rail study and
3:05:19 finding some additional funds in land
3:05:22 acquisition Fleet fund adjustments or
3:05:24 general fund it's not that much money at
3:05:27 that point budget dust I believe it's
3:05:31 called
3:05:33 um that being said if the council
3:05:36 doesn't agree with that outright I would
3:05:40 suggest that we leave the funding um for
3:05:44 the light rail plan in the general fund
3:05:46 and have that item be
3:05:49 unfunded and then determine midb Anum
3:05:53 which of those two priorities between
3:05:55 Metroflex and the light rail are
3:05:58 important if at some point I don't want
3:06:01 to spend the money on light rail
3:06:05 planning and then have us have to come
3:06:07 back into Metroflex my first priority
3:06:10 would be don't do the light rail
3:06:12 planning and spend it and commit to two
3:06:14 years of Metroflex but if we're at that
3:06:17 point where we can't quite come to a
3:06:20 full agreement on that I just want to
3:06:23 make sure we're not spending the money
3:06:25 and can make that
3:06:26 decision
3:06:28 so those are kind of my thoughts
3:06:30 depending on how further conversation
3:06:33 goes would be dependent on whether I
3:06:36 think we can go for December 2nd or
3:06:37 December
3:06:39 9th so I don't think we came
3:06:43 to full consensus on two of the bigger
3:06:47 items so I'm
3:06:51 wondering what the administration heard
3:06:53 or whether we want to do a second round
3:06:58 comments second round okay Deputy
3:07:01 council president D
3:07:03 Michelle well yeah it sounds like I'm in
3:07:07 the minority here but I will I will come
3:07:09 back with all due respect and
3:07:12 say uh if if Sound Transit is going to
3:07:15 do what they're going to do anyway
3:07:19 uh the only way that we can change that
3:07:23 course is by knowing where what we want
3:07:26 to do and we won't know what we want to
3:07:28 do unless we begin to do the studies and
3:07:31 the research that uh bolster our
3:07:34 decision about where we want that
3:07:36 station to be what we want it to look
3:07:38 like and so forth so uh I know that it's
3:07:42 22 years away or more but 22 years is a
3:07:45 blink of an eye in the planning world uh
3:07:49 it will be here before people know it we
3:07:53 won't be here probably but it will be
3:07:55 here and uh if we have no plans we have
3:07:59 no research to back it up uh if we just
3:08:02 say Well they're going to do what
3:08:03 they're going to do anyway yes they will
3:08:05 do what they want to do anyway uh we
3:08:07 either get our voice out there or uh we
3:08:10 wait wait for them with whatever they've
3:08:12 got planned so uh uh I personally am
3:08:17 willing to hold off on the funding for
3:08:19 2026 for metlex see where we could go
3:08:22 with that and at the same time get that
3:08:25 steud for light rail going so that we
3:08:29 are going forward on both fronts um with
3:08:33 our Transit planning
3:08:35 so uh if indeed I am in the minority and
3:08:40 there's not the votes for the light rail
3:08:43 study I would like to see that money go
3:08:45 to mlex and Bund that second year thank
3:08:50 you council member
3:08:54 Mars uh I hate disagree with Barb but
3:08:59 I'm going to in this particular
3:09:03 um I was struck earlier we were talking
3:09:06 about our goals around multimodal
3:09:08 Transportation the only thing that's
3:09:11 changed in the 15 years that I've been
3:09:14 on Council is Metro FL
3:09:17 and everything else the the landscape of
3:09:23 multimodal Transportation in this city
3:09:25 which we talk about we must talk about
3:09:28 every month or two for the last 15 years
3:09:30 and was probably the 15 years before
3:09:32 that um has not changed so I and I I I
3:09:37 so wish it had and it's part of why I'm
3:09:39 so excited about Metro flag uh I I don't
3:09:43 want to just I don't want to let Sound
3:09:45 Transit do what they want to do I want
3:09:47 to slow it down until we understand I
3:09:51 want somebody from them to come in and
3:09:54 tell us that they understand that they
3:09:57 can't just build the least expensive
3:09:59 thing we live so often if if I if I if I
3:10:02 were to still down what the last 15
3:10:05 years is is we make laws and then people
3:10:09 do the thing that is most cost effective
3:10:11 for them developers and the county and
3:10:15 the state they all do do the thing
3:10:17 that's most cost effective to them not
3:10:19 the thing that we want them to do
3:10:21 because we have less control than we
3:10:23 think so I'm I understand the urge to be
3:10:28 at the table not be on the menu but I I
3:10:31 want to get out of the
3:10:33 kitchen I don't know if this analogy
3:10:35 works very well but um in until such
3:10:38 time as as like I said we have we
3:10:40 understand that that we have when I when
3:10:43 I heard the description of how they're
3:10:45 going to go about doing this they're
3:10:46 going to decide what they want to do and
3:10:48 then they're going to do it and so that
3:10:51 scares me because I think what the
3:10:54 economics is going to point to is so
3:10:56 different than the vision that we have
3:10:58 for uh Light Rail in our city so until I
3:11:01 hear better on that again I'm going to
3:11:03 be the leite and throw my clog in the uh
3:11:06 windmill thank you okay I'm going to
3:11:08 push back and make sure that I get what
3:11:11 you said you're saying 0 to light rail
3:11:14 are you saying Metroflex 2025 or 2025
3:11:18 and 26 I already said that if I could
3:11:19 wave a magic one I would do 2026 I just
3:11:22 said I was I just said I was okay with
3:11:24 one year but I would prefer two years so
3:11:26 Mark me down is prefer two years okay
3:11:29 and if that isn't the case if we go with
3:11:31 only 2025 then the 200k for the light
3:11:35 rail study would just go back to the
3:11:36 general fund correct okay thank
3:11:39 you uh council member
3:11:43 Joe thank
3:11:45 you um as part of of my day job I'm in
3:11:49 SNES County quite a bit uh there's a
3:11:52 committee called skit which is SNES
3:11:54 County committee to improve traffic and
3:11:59 uh one of the parties that is a
3:12:01 consistent participant there is
3:12:02 Community Transit and Sound Transit and
3:12:06 the government Affairs person for Sound
3:12:08 Transit is named Eric Ashley and I've
3:12:12 had the benefit of having some
3:12:14 conversations with him about isqua in
3:12:17 2042 or
3:12:19 2043 and um he did
3:12:23 encourage uh me to uh try to have as
3:12:30 many different conversations within our
3:12:32 community so that we could really
3:12:35 articulate what our vision was for the
3:12:37 Terminus for this
3:12:40 spot uh for Sound Transit when it
3:12:44 comes uh and and our budget speaks l ly
3:12:47 in terms of what our priorities are and
3:12:50 I think that having that
3:12:52 $200,000 in there is important to show
3:12:56 that we have skin in the game and money
3:13:01 on the table
3:13:02 for the high stakes poker hand that's
3:13:05 going to be played between Sound Transit
3:13:07 and this
3:13:08 city uh we can look at a couple of
3:13:11 examples in terms of things that have
3:13:13 worked and things that haven't worked
3:13:15 with sound transit spots
3:13:18 um I think uh director Dolly wall talked
3:13:22 about redond doing a really good job in
3:13:25 terms of planning
3:13:27 um f Way also has been doing a really
3:13:30 good job of
3:13:32 planning we can probably get some
3:13:34 information from both those cities to
3:13:36 come back and find out how they funded
3:13:38 it over what years what worked what kind
3:13:41 of committee they had when it was in
3:13:43 place when it was best effective from
3:13:46 the city point of view to give direction
3:13:48 and vision to sound transit for what the
3:13:51 community really wanted to
3:13:52 see Federal Way did a great job
3:13:56 because
3:13:58 they scoped out and planned where they
3:14:01 wanted the
3:14:02 station by planning the zoning by
3:14:06 planning the road configurations or the
3:14:10 the little elements that would make
3:14:12 their Vision
3:14:14 possible I'd like to find out more about
3:14:16 what Federal Way did but it seems to me
3:14:19 that the in-house work that we do for
3:14:22 $200,000 to find out what our vision is
3:14:25 what we want to
3:14:26 see uh then goes to that next step of
3:14:29 trying to lay down the zoning and the
3:14:33 the the kind of layout for what we'd
3:14:36 like to see there so that it is easy for
3:14:40 Sound Transit to come in and say you've
3:14:43 done all this work let's now talk about
3:14:45 what we want to see there rather than
3:14:47 them saying Mercer Island you're going
3:14:50 to get this station right here on I90
3:14:52 and since you haven't talked to us since
3:14:54 you didn't come and communicate with us
3:14:56 that's what you get and you can sue us
3:14:58 you can take us to court but that
3:15:00 building's already there
3:15:03 so maybe we're too early in the
3:15:05 conversation but I really support Barb D
3:15:08 Michelle's idea that we need to have
3:15:09 that 200,000 in there to have skin in
3:15:12 the game and our poker chips on the
3:15:13 table our budget speaks to sound trans
3:15:17 as to how serious we are about what
3:15:19 we're going to do um so I would implore
3:15:22 my colleagues to put the $200,000 in for
3:15:25 the Sound Transit
3:15:27 Terminus um discussion Vision it's
3:15:30 in-house work we're not using consultant
3:15:32 that's going to uh ask us for a ton of
3:15:35 extra money but it's work that we can do
3:15:37 inhouse and if it turns out that we
3:15:39 don't have the staff to do it or don't
3:15:41 have the time to do it we've at least
3:15:43 put the marker on the budget of $200,000
3:15:47 on there so that sound transit does look
3:15:49 at it they can see that over the years
3:15:51 we put that money in there planning for
3:15:53 the future because we're serious about
3:15:55 the Terminus and what we want to see in
3:15:57 isqua at the end so
3:16:00 um alternate plan well the plan I would
3:16:03 propose would be um keep the funding for
3:16:07 next year for Metroflex keep the
3:16:10 $200,000 in there for the Terminus study
3:16:14 um direct the administration to continue
3:16:16 to track try to find money for Metroflex
3:16:18 or granting or other options for the
3:16:21 next year
3:16:22 2026 um but that funding I think for
3:16:26 Sound Transit is fairly important in
3:16:28 that conversation we don't want to end
3:16:30 up like merer Island we want to end up
3:16:32 like redond or Federal Way so the one
3:16:34 request I'd have for the administration
3:16:36 is if you can find out what Federal Way
3:16:38 and Redmond did that was successful and
3:16:41 the timing for those pieces along the
3:16:44 way so that we can be more informed as
3:16:46 to when we might need to put that money
3:16:48 in there um that would be the asset I
3:16:50 would
3:16:53 have Council
3:16:57 mul I'm just not feeling as cynical
3:16:59 about s trans Sound Transit so I'm I'm a
3:17:02 little I don't feel as
3:17:07 um I just I'm not feeling that there's
3:17:09 this urgent need this B anym to be
3:17:11 moving forward with that work um
3:17:13 especially given our challenging
3:17:14 Financial atwork so I agree with um
3:17:18 council president Walsh um to use that
3:17:22 funding to support a second year of
3:17:23 Metroflex instead assuming it's not
3:17:25 restricted funding which I thought it I
3:17:26 think it's general fund funding so it's
3:17:29 not um and then and then it you know
3:17:31 maybe we find grant funding for our
3:17:33 light rail station work like that I just
3:17:36 to me it seems like this is a more
3:17:38 pressing need um in the community at the
3:17:41 moment
3:17:47 council member
3:17:48 hunt uh I agree with the proposal to
3:17:51 move the 200,000 from the general fund
3:17:54 which is currently earmarked for the
3:17:55 light rail study to the second year of
3:17:57 Metroflex and there's also few other
3:18:00 things um there's a a dis a new dis uh
3:18:04 for when we move this $50,000 which is
3:18:06 in the bium so $50,000 and that's
3:18:09 something that is marked as something
3:18:10 that council could consider because we
3:18:12 said we potentially don't need a new dis
3:18:15 um so there's other things that we could
3:18:18 we could chime in on to make up that
3:18:19 extra money but the 200,000 gets us most
3:18:21 of the way there uh I support that I
3:18:24 think this discussion of amendments that
3:18:27 our job right now is to look forward two
3:18:30 years and align this budget to the best
3:18:32 of ability with the values of the
3:18:33 community and there is this pressing
3:18:36 need for metrof Flix and I think we
3:18:38 should reflect that reflect the
3:18:41 community comments by funding it for for
3:18:43 the two years that we're budgeting for
3:18:44 as council member Mart said we write
3:18:46 checks so we're writing a check to show
3:18:48 that we care about this program we want
3:18:49 it to we want it to continue um and I
3:18:53 think we should do that in both years
3:18:56 that we are budgeting
3:18:58 for council member H can I ask a quick
3:19:01 question about that I can't remember if
3:19:02 we got into this last week do we are we
3:19:05 making the assumption that the cost for
3:19:07 Metroflex would be the same in 2026 than
3:19:10 it would be in our current contract do
3:19:11 we have any reason to expect it might be
3:19:13 more expensive absolutely we do not have
3:19:16 an offer service beyond the end of next
3:19:19 year and in talking with King County
3:19:22 Transit they're not sure that it will be
3:19:24 continued they're facing multi-million
3:19:26 dollar Cuts before the state legislature
3:19:28 deals with additional Cuts so we do not
3:19:31 have an offer of service beyond the end
3:19:32 of next
3:19:34 year okay that's helpful
3:19:38 Contex but with that said
3:19:40 Madam council president um the
3:19:43 administration hears you loud and clear
3:19:45 um so there's no there's no uh issue
3:19:49 with that the issue is operational uh
3:19:52 the King County Transit is not providing
3:19:54 the service or does not provide it at a
3:19:56 cost I mean we're already paying a
3:19:58 fairly significant perite cost and I
3:20:00 think the council is saying as a
3:20:01 community value okay but if it goes from
3:20:05 200 and change to 400 and change is that
3:20:09 the same thing are we going to pay $100
3:20:11 a ride uh does that make sense if the
3:20:14 issue is providing
3:20:16 that transit for those in need there are
3:20:19 other opportunities other options and I
3:20:21 think the administration would like to
3:20:23 have some flexibility in providing those
3:20:26 options so uh I think we can say that we
3:20:29 hear you um we will continue to work
3:20:31 forward that the understanding from the
3:20:33 council is you'd like to see this
3:20:34 through the bium if not with uh King
3:20:37 County Transit some other operator and
3:20:39 so we will work with King County Transit
3:20:42 beginning of the year they let us know
3:20:45 in a conversation that director and I
3:20:47 had with them what about two weeks ago
3:20:49 now uh they were non-committed with
3:20:52 everything they saying they are having
3:20:53 significant budget problems uh and they
3:20:56 were not prepared to talk beyond that so
3:20:59 I think again as we talk about Sound
3:21:00 Transit uh as we talk about light rail
3:21:04 um we need to control our own destiny
3:21:06 that we cannot sit back and hope that
3:21:09 others will look upon isqua and say
3:21:11 We'll fine we'll take care of you and
3:21:12 mayor Paulie in presenting this budget
3:21:15 to you uh I that's a theme throughout um
3:21:18 so um we will commit this evening to uh
3:21:22 continue to work on uh the shared ride
3:21:25 option and if it is Metroflex great if
3:21:28 it's offered to us great um and we will
3:21:31 come back to you uh prior to the meeting
3:21:33 on December 2nd uh with a response as to
3:21:37 what a 26 funding strategy would look
3:21:39 like um you know if I may council
3:21:42 president kind of respond to other
3:21:44 comments the council's made or would you
3:21:46 like to take further comments from the
3:21:49 council um I'm fine with that I will
3:21:52 make my secondary comments um after and
3:21:55 then we can see what other well then
3:21:58 then let me wait until the council's
3:21:59 finished okay and we'll give you a
3:22:01 Roundup of the where the administration
3:22:04 thinks we are here at the end of the
3:22:05 evening yeah um I I think your comments
3:22:09 about whether or not service could be
3:22:10 provided for 2026 is important and
3:22:14 something that we can certainly
3:22:17 look at um from my perspective I would
3:22:21 be very hesitant to fund a program that
3:22:25 was some sort of you know single ride um
3:22:29 opportunity I think one of the benefits
3:22:31 of this is that it gets people an orca
3:22:33 card and it gets people uh used to using
3:22:38 the Metro service and so whether that's
3:22:41 training our young folks um that this is
3:22:43 an accessible service and something that
3:22:46 they can not just to get around isqua
3:22:48 but also throughout um the region I
3:22:52 think is an important element of all of
3:22:54 that and so um I would certainly hope
3:22:58 that we could rely on King County to
3:23:02 continue that service and if they were
3:23:04 going to be eliminating that service
3:23:06 from us I would hope that they would
3:23:08 also be looking at eliminating it from
3:23:10 everywhere because just because it's a
3:23:13 new program doesn't mean that um ours
3:23:15 should be on the cutting block first um
3:23:18 I don't mean that it should actually be
3:23:19 eliminated everywhere just that gosh it
3:23:23 yeah that would be quite uh unfortunate
3:23:26 if that was something that was looking
3:23:28 at um I am not supportive of funding the
3:23:33 light rail study not because I don't
3:23:36 think we sh I think we should have a
3:23:39 community conversation about where the
3:23:41 light rail station is but I think one of
3:23:44 the things
3:23:46 when we were talking about at the garage
3:23:49 on the Civics conversation um and just
3:23:52 in general it you can get community
3:23:55 engagement on things that people are
3:23:57 interested in especially if you have
3:24:01 maps and locations and places they can
3:24:03 put stickers on um I I think this is the
3:24:07 exact thing that we can do the initial
3:24:12 internally and have a conversation about
3:24:15 where does the Community want this
3:24:17 station to be I think that's the stage
3:24:19 that we're at right now um
3:24:24 I no I I think what this would be is
3:24:29 $200,000 spent on something I think we
3:24:32 can do that internally with our staff um
3:24:37 capabilities and get a sense of where
3:24:41 community wants a station before we get
3:24:46 you know any of the land use areas or
3:24:49 any of the Is it feasible um in those
3:24:53 locations I think we need the community
3:24:56 input first um before I'm willing to put
3:24:59 forth
3:25:01 $200,000 on something that would be for
3:25:04 a project that isn't going to happen for
3:25:07 20 years so I I think it's important to
3:25:10 recognize I think we can do elements
3:25:15 that get us moving toward um that
3:25:18 concept without necessarily spending
3:25:21 that much
3:25:26 money any other comments or do we want
3:25:29 to hear from City administrator at this
3:25:32 point Okay C
3:25:35 administrator thank you council
3:25:37 president members of the council really
3:25:38 appreciate uh the Deep discussion this
3:25:41 evening and glad that uh uh we seem to
3:25:44 be whittling through the list so
3:25:47 um I think we hear that the DS spending
3:25:50 is in line with the council's thinking
3:25:52 so thank you on that um regarding the
3:25:55 fleet fund um this is something we'll
3:25:57 continue to bring to the council and in
3:25:59 in my discussions with mayor Paulie as
3:26:01 we look at the work plan for uh 20 uh
3:26:05 25 we will we'll look at ways to
3:26:08 continue to involve the council in that
3:26:11 um again with Metroflex uh we are
3:26:14 committed to continuing this program we
3:26:16 will continue uh to talk with King
3:26:19 County Transit um uh the the Practical
3:26:23 reality is is they may come back and say
3:26:25 we're not able to do this and so then
3:26:27 the question will be are there less
3:26:30 optimal programs uh that might not teach
3:26:33 kids how to use an orca card but still
3:26:35 would allow them to and seniors and
3:26:37 others to have access to the service so
3:26:40 we will uh continue uh to do that uh so
3:26:43 that leaves uh the uh Light Rail study
3:26:48 um again the mayor is extraordinarily
3:26:52 committed to seeing this through uh and
3:26:55 through the comments that you have all
3:26:57 made um I think that there's there's
3:26:59 really two sides of a coin there's the
3:27:01 one side of the coin that says uh if we
3:27:03 are not diligent it will never come the
3:27:06 other side of the coin is it's 20 years
3:27:08 away we got more important things to
3:27:10 focus on and um you know I I think the
3:27:14 mayor is going to have to be thoughtful
3:27:17 over the next several days and uh uh
3:27:20 reflect on these comments um and decide
3:27:23 what you would like to ultimately have
3:27:25 as a a final proposal for the council to
3:27:28 vote either up or down uh on that um you
3:27:31 know the the commitment of the community
3:27:35 the ongoing dialogue with the community
3:27:38 um you know much of this we can do a
3:27:40 city forces but there are pieces that we
3:27:42 cannot um and so we can go back once
3:27:45 again and talk with community planning
3:27:46 and development and see if there is a
3:27:48 different scope uh of work for that um I
3:27:52 think what monies might be uh allocated
3:27:56 in reserve for 2026 for a shared ride
3:27:59 Metroflex or something else I think is
3:28:01 something that we will also go back uh
3:28:04 to see um but I I don't know in the eyes
3:28:07 of the administration that that funding
3:28:10 and the light rail study are tied that
3:28:13 they are separate Standalone issues um
3:28:15 which the the mayor will ponder over the
3:28:18 next several days and so I think from
3:28:20 the administration standpoint we've
3:28:22 heard enough of from the council that
3:28:25 with uh really uh the light rail study
3:28:29 uh funding and a commitment maybe more
3:28:33 uh flushed out commitment to met metlex
3:28:35 or a shared ride program in 26 uh with
3:28:39 those two issues resolved I think we are
3:28:41 done um and so with the council's
3:28:45 concurrence we will continue to work
3:28:47 toward that for December 2nd uh come
3:28:50 back uh with final recommendations on
3:28:53 those two points uh the light rail
3:28:56 funding and any additional funding for
3:28:59 Metro Flex or a shared ride service in
3:29:01 26 Council can agree or disagree then we
3:29:05 package everything up final
3:29:12 consideration how does that feel folks
3:29:14 December 2nd or is there something that
3:29:18 we need from the administration in the
3:29:22 interim that would get us there for
3:29:25 December
3:29:28 2nd council member Marts so in this in
3:29:32 the spirit of uh maybe helping uh the
3:29:38 how the mayor might respond on this I
3:29:40 mean you know what what do we get for
3:29:44 $200,000 like what how does it move the
3:29:46 conversation forward um why now right I
3:29:50 mean st3 was passed 8 years ago why is
3:29:53 it all of a sudden urgent
3:29:55 now the answers to those questions might
3:29:58 help me understand why this is important
3:30:01 to the administration and and in part
3:30:04 just building on the work that we have
3:30:05 done in the last 12 18 months um we have
3:30:08 had Community meetings we've had the
3:30:10 term of art the light rail planning
3:30:13 guide uh which has been developed the
3:30:15 money that the council was already
3:30:16 invested through arpa funds all that's
3:30:18 been spent in the last 12 or 18 months
3:30:20 and I think the mayor's concern has been
3:30:23 uh to not have a pause and so
3:30:26 consequently then the question is what
3:30:28 does that look like not having a pause
3:30:30 and so we went back as I said earlier
3:30:33 this evening um you know I was prepared
3:30:36 not to fund this recommend not to fund
3:30:37 this either you all convinced me kind of
3:30:39 otherwise despite the fact that you were
3:30:41 convincing yourself not to do it what I
3:30:43 was hearing was the importance of
3:30:45 continuing the discussion and so that's
3:30:47 why we went back uh and had that
3:30:49 discussion internally but we'll have it
3:30:51 again um and come back to you but again
3:30:54 we don't see the light rail study
3:30:56 funding and Metroflex funding tied we'll
3:30:59 come back to you and deal with them both
3:31:01 separately on their own individual
3:31:02 merits uh I think again the only two
3:31:05 remaining issues Council can vote up or
3:31:07 down based on the mayor's final
3:31:09 recommendations to you um and
3:31:12 hopefully but I think it's that issue of
3:31:14 momentum it's that issue of continuing
3:31:16 environmental issues are going to be
3:31:18 extraordinarily important um I think
3:31:21 isqua's view of environmental issues are
3:31:23 different than everyone else's view of
3:31:24 environmental issues and as we look at
3:31:26 the World perhaps that's going to even
3:31:28 accelerate um so we just want to be
3:31:30 thoughtful so we'll go back once again
3:31:33 and talk some more uh over the next
3:31:35 several days and uh again there'll be
3:31:37 two final recommendations from the mayor
3:31:39 on those two points for your
3:31:41 consideration on
3:31:43 December yeah I just want to say I
3:31:45 really appreciate what council member
3:31:46 Mart said about you know these are the
3:31:49 the ways that you're thinking about it
3:31:51 and what would be useful in
3:31:54 understanding that from my perspective
3:31:55 it would also be what can we get out of
3:31:59 $200,000 that we couldn't do internally
3:32:03 then anytime we make a decision to use
3:32:06 internal staff time we're choosing not
3:32:09 to do something else absolutely so I
3:32:11 think that would be an important element
3:32:14 of if we do more of the work internally
3:32:17 what does that push back um and I think
3:32:20 that gives us a fuller picture of what
3:32:22 that is
3:32:24 so any other comments do the
3:32:27 administration have what they need thank
3:32:30 oie dokie so looking at that go to the
3:32:34 order
3:32:36 anybody okay we are adjourned at 10:03
3:32:39 pm thank you

Attendance

Council / Members (6)
Barbara de Michele
Zach Hall
Victoria Hunt
Russell Joe
Tola Marts
Lindsey Walsh
Excused
Chris Reh