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Park Board

Monday, September 23, 2024

7:00 PM
Topics tracked across meetings:
Parks & Community Services- Summer Highlights 2025 (I) Jeff Watling- Parks and Community Services ID 1916 1/3
Brief Verbal Update Urban Forest Management Plan Implementation (I) AB 8915 10/14
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of August 26, 2024
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 08-26-24 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave August 26, 2024 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Urban Forest Management Plan Draft Update, (D,A)
40 min · Dan Hintz, Urban Forest Supervisor PlanIt Geo Consultants · packet pp.5–275
Topics: Trees
Staff report:
URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN PARK BOARD PRESENTATION
4b
Donation Bench Program Update
Discussion / Action · 20 min · Hasanthi Hoglund, Department Operations Specialist · packet pp.277–286
Staff report:
Outline I. Current Program Success II. Current Ordinance Language III. Proposed Ordinance Language IV. Park Board Action
4c
Parks and Community Services Summer Highlights, (I)
10 min · Jeff Watling, Director · packet pp.287–303
Topics: Parks
Staff report:
Parks & Community Services 301 Rainier Blvd. S | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3300 issaquahwa.gov
5. REPORTS
5a
Director's Report
5b
Chairperson's Report
0:02 we'll start off with uh uh taking roll
0:06 um so when I call your name if you could
0:08 call out present uh Katie
0:13 Bell uh Andrew
0:16 eloquin okay we'll wait he may be a late
0:19 arrival uh I am here David Lou
0:24 present uh Tim montley has an excused
0:27 absence uh Ryan Olen
0:32 here Branda
0:37 Spears
0:38 Marlene
0:41 here uh Paul Adair
0:46 here Martha
0:48 gner
0:50 here and Mary Stevens also has an
0:53 excused absence so with that um with the
0:56 folks there and I guess online we we
0:59 have a quorum and we do we will have a
1:02 couple decision items tonight so that's
1:05 important uh let's see uh next thing is
1:09 approval of minutes uh has everyone had
1:11 a chance to review the minutes from the
1:12 last
1:15 meeting anybody have any corrections or
1:22 edits you'll have to tell me if anybody
1:24 is nodding or raising hand because I
1:27 can't see
1:28 everybody yeah all
1:31 good yeah okay thanks then uh with that
1:35 we'll approve last uh last month's
1:37 meeting
1:39 minutes uh and then now uh do we have
1:41 anybody for public
1:45 comment no nobody no one in person and
1:50 let me just check online real quick I
1:53 don't see anyone online for public
1:56 comment
1:57 either okay
2:00 rolling right through okay then uh uh
2:04 we'll move into regular business and the
2:06 first item is the urbus urban Forest
2:08 management plan draft plan uh update and
2:12 that's presented by uh Dan hints take it
2:15 away
2:17 Dan thanks Chris it's Jeff Jeff at first
2:20 for a quick intro um hi everybody uh
2:24 thank you so much uh you a couple months
2:27 ago saw a first draft of this document
2:29 and really appreciated you going through
2:31 it with us uh through your feedback
2:34 feedback from the um environmental board
2:37 as well as Community has really helped
2:40 uh Dan and Chris to to shape this up
2:43 into what is really beginning to feel
2:45 like a final document so uh they are
2:47 both here uh Chris online Dan here in
2:50 person if you recall Dan is our Urban
2:52 Forest supervisor um hard to believe
2:55 been a little over a year now uh that
2:57 Dan has been here and uh just um
2:59 tremendous things happening but on the
3:02 work plan completing this Urban Forest
3:04 plan our first urban Forest plan was a
3:06 really really high priority um you might
3:09 um have gotten the sense as you read
3:11 through this um and I just a reminder
3:14 and as I think we discussed this tonight
3:16 you know you've seen a park system Plan
3:18 update now uh you've really shephered
3:21 that through and now here's a Wars
3:23 management plan right behind it um just
3:26 one clear difference between the two uh
3:28 the urban Forest management plan prob
3:30 feels a little denser uh because it's
3:32 intended to be a little denser um a
3:34 little more into the uh I wouldn't say
3:36 weeds into the trees into the branches
3:39 um so just that context as um as we we
3:43 dig into this but um Dan Chris great
3:46 work thank you take it
3:48 away Jeff and park thanks for having me
3:50 here again um as as Jeff got hinted you
3:54 know we last uh chatted back in June uh
3:57 but at that point we had the uh C
4:00 condition section essentially you know
4:01 what do we have in terms of trees Urban
4:03 Forest programs in isqua and that was
4:06 our first set of um uh bringing the uh
4:10 kind of draft Vision uh the five guiding
4:12 principles and then the associated
4:15 strategies recommendations and and kind
4:17 of sub goals with those fine guiding
4:18 principles so hopefully you kind of
4:20 remember back to that in in June that
4:22 was really kind of what started this uh
4:25 you know kind of actual tangible draft
4:26 of our Urban Forest management plan um
4:29 Crystal recap this a little bit so
4:30 hopefully not stealing his Thunder too
4:31 much but we've been working on this for
4:33 almost a year now um and really kind of
4:36 you know foundational pieces of an urban
4:38 forestry program obviously the the city
4:40 committing to bring staff like myself
4:42 like our green isal volunteer
4:43 coordinator on board but really the
4:46 other two critical pieces are having a
4:48 forest management plan to really serve
4:50 as a kind of guide or road mapap for the
4:52 next 10 years as we build out this
4:54 program um and then you know the next
4:56 big piece which is talked about in this
4:58 plan and we hope to you pursue in the
5:00 next year or two is a tree inventory so
5:02 actually having a little bit um I should
5:05 say a lot better idea of you know the
5:06 composition of trees in our Urban Forest
5:09 you know really focusing on Street trees
5:11 trees and Main parks and areas like that
5:14 so um so like I said the current
5:16 conditions the visions and
5:18 recommendations is section one of this
5:20 plan so hopefully there's a little
5:21 familiarity there from the last touch
5:23 point we had with you all at the start
5:25 of summer um what has been added since
5:27 then that you know is kind of called out
5:29 an email from sop to review is the uh
5:31 section three which is implementation
5:33 and monitoring um so that is you know
5:36 actually you know kind of starting to
5:38 sequence starting to prioritize starting
5:40 to look at kind of levels of funding
5:42 coordination across departments and
5:44 within the community to achieve um you
5:46 know that Vision those five guiding
5:48 principles and then the associated you
5:50 know goals strategies and
5:52 recommendations so tonight I can hand it
5:54 over to Chris in just a minute here with
5:55 Planet Geo but we'll kind of go over a
5:57 little recap on the um uh timeline for
6:01 the project we'll talk about feedback we
6:03 received on that first draft and that's
6:05 framework with those uh principles goals
6:08 strategies recommendations um focus in a
6:11 little bit on the new sections with
6:12 implementation monitoring and then and
6:14 talk about next steps so I'll hand it
6:16 off to Chris we have you know specific
6:18 slide at the beginning here and at the
6:20 end of what we're actually asking for in
6:21 terms of feedback and and potentially
6:24 recommendation to move this forward to
6:26 council this fall for adoption um but
6:28 Chris will um kind of tee that up and uh
6:31 lead the presentation here so um Chris
6:33 thanks for getting started here thanks
6:36 man and thanks Jeff as well and uh good
6:38 to see everyone I did want to start off
6:40 by saying I'm shaking a cold so if uh my
6:43 voice isn't fully back yet so if I need
6:45 to speak up just please let me know um
6:47 so I just wanted to also say you know we
6:50 we last met in June and uh Jeff and Dan
6:53 gave a recap of what we worked on and uh
6:55 where we're at today and just want to
6:57 thank you all again for weighing in on
6:59 the long-term framework which allowed us
7:01 to move forward with the implementation
7:04 and monitoring section then of the plan
7:06 which will'll really highlight in this
7:08 presentation and uh yeah so I just
7:10 wanted to start off with a brief
7:12 introduction again Chris Pier I'm the
7:14 director of uh Urban Forest strategy at
7:16 Planet Geo going on 10 years coming in O
7:19 October and uh I'm the pr project
7:22 manager for this project and the project
7:24 is supported by uh Alex and Matt who are
7:27 both certified arborists experienced in
7:29 in policy planning and management of
7:31 trees in the Pacific
7:33 Northwest and for our uh presentation
7:36 this is just an overview of what we'll
7:37 discuss but before I get into a project
7:40 update and the draft plan itself I'm
7:43 going to turn it over to Dan again to
7:44 share our request for the board and then
7:46 we'll make sure to Circle back to this
7:48 request at the end of our presentation
7:51 uh as we get into an open discussion so
7:53 I'll share this slide now and um we'll
7:56 talk through a little bit of the purpose
7:57 and action requested here
8:00 thanks Chris so kind of kind of hinted
8:02 at this already but you know really I
8:05 know it's a big document there's a lot
8:06 of appendicies we're looking to kind of
8:07 breaking that out um that's kind of a
8:09 supporting document so we weren't really
8:11 expecting everyone to obviously read the
8:13 whole hundred plus pages of the main
8:15 part of the plan if you if you did Kudos
8:17 that's awesome but um uh what we're
8:19 really kind of hoping for for this round
8:21 is you know any comments and feedback on
8:24 the um responses we got to draft one
8:27 which is summarized uh in a slide coming
8:30 up here that we actually didn't attach
8:31 it's pretty far down in the agenda but
8:33 essentially a tracking document with a
8:35 lot of feedback from some people on this
8:36 Park Board as Jeff mentioned
8:38 environmental board other staff and some
8:40 other uh Community Partners s call me
8:43 tribe as well um so that is synthesized
8:45 the end of the agenda if you're looking
8:46 for that I think it starts around page
8:49 250 um uh so we'll kind of review that
8:52 here first what's been addressed to date
8:54 and then you know that really LED that
8:55 whole process making sure that you know
8:57 we are on the same page about this
8:59 framework about those you know goals
9:01 strategies recommendations that led to
9:03 us being able to do this next iteration
9:05 which is the implementation and then how
9:07 do we actually monitor uh you know and
9:09 track success of the implementation of
9:11 this plan uh you know moving into next
9:13 year the uh you know subsequent years
9:15 after that so um that's really the kind
9:17 of purpose that we're kind of hoping any
9:19 feedback questions
9:21 clarification um like I said we're going
9:22 to be going through some Recaps of
9:24 section one and two which you've already
9:26 seen or heard about a little bit on
9:27 current conditions and vision recommend
9:29 ations um but assuming that that is
9:32 something you all ready to do we are
9:33 looking for um you know recommendation
9:36 to move this forward to city council for
9:39 adoption so what that would look like
9:40 would be um bringing this to the Safety
9:43 Services and arc's Council committee uh
9:46 in the middle of October for their
9:48 review we met with them back in August
9:50 as well um kind of go over that similar
9:52 uh framework um for the document and
9:55 then looking at a November full council
9:57 meeting for approval and adoption of the
9:59 plan of you know delivery at that time
10:01 from from planet GE so um this slide
10:04 will come back at the end of the
10:06 presentation too so we'll use this as a
10:08 reference for our discussion here in
10:09 just a little bit yep yeah thanks Dan
10:12 and then uh lastly on the uh plan itself
10:16 I did want to also mention that the
10:18 appendices are pretty lengthy the idea
10:21 there is to support the new urban
10:22 forestry program as the implementation
10:25 takes place over a 10-year period And as
10:28 opportunities arise
10:30 for the final plan we may decide that
10:32 some of those are supporting separate
10:33 studies Standalone documents um and so
10:37 you know there may be some shifts to
10:38 that and we did also want to note that
10:41 the executive summary will serve as a
10:43 standalone document so that it's going
10:44 to be something that you all can
10:46 reference without you know combing
10:48 through the entire plan but there are
10:50 going to be resources and information to
10:52 support the urban forestry Journey along
10:54 the way so a little bit of uh context
10:57 there and um so what I'd like to do is
11:00 just go through a brief update of um
11:03 where we started where we're heading and
11:05 what our end goal is here and so just to
11:07 briefly recap the process and the
11:09 timeline uh beginning late last year the
11:12 Baseline assessment was completed and if
11:14 you recall we talked about a top- down
11:16 canopy assessment and that's just one
11:18 component and we'll highlight other
11:19 aspects of the assessments and then this
11:22 assessment provided context to help us
11:24 engage with City staff and the community
11:26 which began in 2024
11:29 then in the second quarter of the year
11:31 the draft goals and strategies were
11:33 developed after you know we had a draft
11:35 and met with you in June and then
11:37 revised uh and drafted the
11:39 implementation and uh monitoring section
11:43 so here in September we're Gathering
11:44 feedback on the second draft of the plan
11:47 to make any final recommendations and
11:49 revisions before we present the plan to
11:52 city council with hopes and anticipation
11:55 that the council will adopt the plan by
11:57 the end of the year
12:00 and so the latest draft of this plan is
12:01 a result of extensive presentations
12:04 meetings and requests to gather feedback
12:06 and like Dan said in the packet there is
12:09 a summary of some of the feedback uh we
12:11 received and how we're addressing it or
12:13 or what was completed and so this slide
12:16 here just shares some of the individuals
12:18 and groups that were participating in
12:20 the review and feedback and this table
12:23 uh paraphrases that feedback that we
12:25 received and how it was
12:27 addressed and um that edit tracking
12:30 table is also a supporting document to
12:32 make sure that we heard from uh all
12:35 groups and that we're addressing and uh
12:37 updating the plan accordingly you know
12:39 as it fits with the objectives of the
12:40 management plan and so we can go into
12:43 more detail during our open discussion
12:45 but I just want to first thank all those
12:47 that participated in the reviews not all
12:49 projects get this much attention and it
12:52 really goes along way to make this a
12:54 plan you know truly for
12:56 isqua and so a copy of the latest draft
13:00 uh was provided as part of the meeting
13:01 packet but this slide will provide a
13:03 high level summary of some key
13:05 components of the section one current
13:08 conditions in the current conditions we
13:10 start off with tree related assessments
13:12 and then in the plan we describe the
13:14 conditions of current management
13:16 programs and the feedback we heard from
13:18 City staff and interested parties we
13:21 also look at the current and potential
13:22 risk and vulnerabilities facing issist
13:25 trees and the evaluation of all urban
13:28 forestry components and how they align
13:31 with industry standards and
13:35 Frameworks so then diving a little
13:36 deeper into current conditions this
13:39 slide will provide an example of uh tree
13:41 related assessment in the plan's current
13:43 conditions section and we utilized
13:46 assessment data that was collected for
13:48 the green isqua 20-year implementation
13:50 guide to gain insights into urban Forest
13:53 composition and since the city currently
13:56 doesn't have an inventory of public
13:58 trees you know those trees along streets
14:00 and in maintained areas of parks this
14:02 data is a really great first step in
14:05 understanding the Citywide Urban forest
14:07 and so we summarized the dominant over
14:09 sto overstory species the understory
14:13 species as well as uh primary invasive
14:16 species that was identified in those
14:17 green isqua surveys and just one thing
14:20 to note about this and we go into more
14:22 detail in the plan you know based on
14:24 this uh survey we see that the forests
14:26 appear relatively Young when you look at
14:29 uh Douglas furs are more abundant
14:31 compared to Western red seeders and that
14:33 hemlocks are not among the top five uh
14:35 dominant overstory species so even this
14:38 data can start to bring insights into
14:40 what the urban Forest looks like and how
14:42 to manage and grow
14:45 it and so then in the current cond
14:48 condition section we also provide an
14:50 example of how uh we evaluated current
14:53 conditions against uh management
14:55 programs and practices and on this Slide
14:58 the table on the left summarizes key
15:00 planning documents that We examined a
15:03 brief purpose statement uh how the plans
15:06 align or do not align with Urban Forest
15:08 management key statements in those City
15:11 Planning documents relating to urban
15:13 forestry and any areas where potential
15:16 conflicts exist or may arise and how to
15:19 address those in the management plan
15:21 this section also summarizes existing
15:24 and potential tree Pest and diseases of
15:26 concern and uh these have certain
15:29 management implications and on this
15:31 slide we just summarize uh Mediterranean
15:33 Oak boore as well as the Emerald ashb
15:35 which are concerns for uh communities uh
15:38 as we look at Urban trees as well as the
15:41 um rural areas and just the overall
15:43 Urban
15:46 forest and then this slide going again
15:48 in current condition provides an example
15:51 of how we examine the vulnerability of
15:53 trees in the region as it relates to
15:55 climate change and we used a study uh
15:58 from the climate change response
16:00 Frameworks online tools and identified
16:02 the Common Street trees in the Pacific
16:04 Northwest that are the least vulnerable
16:07 to increased heat projections but as the
16:10 disclaimer notes at the bottom a public
16:12 tree inventory would provide more
16:14 specific considerations for tree species
16:16 selection uh and the city does emphasize
16:19 planting Natives and locally sourced
16:21 seeds for improved climate resilience
16:24 among other beneficial impacts of doing
16:27 so so just a a quick note on
16:30 that and lastly for current conditions
16:33 we roll up all of our findings from the
16:36 evaluations the studies the assessments
16:39 into an evaluation based on the US
16:41 Forest Services Urban Forest audit and
16:44 the indicators of a sustainable Urban
16:46 forest and we presented these findings
16:48 during the June meeting together but to
16:50 recap these findings supported the
16:52 development of the plan's goals and
16:54 strategies that we'll discuss in the
16:56 following slides and this framework also
16:59 serves as a um mechanism to Monitor and
17:03 adapt the plan over
17:05 time so in in addition to the goals and
17:08 strategies that are developed the
17:10 long-term framework consists of the
17:12 vision principles priority actions as
17:15 well as appendices to support
17:17 implementation that I'll cover in an
17:19 upcoming slide and as I mentioned this
17:22 entire framework provides um the
17:25 structure for measuring and monitoring
17:26 plan implementation progress and it
17:29 serves as a foundation uh for adapting
17:31 strategies over time and to Ser to make
17:34 sure that this plan serves as a living
17:36 uh road map and a work plan and so we'll
17:39 get into a little bit more detail of how
17:41 that implementation and monitoring can
17:43 take
17:45 place but before that I'd like to uh
17:48 just summarize the vision for the urban
17:50 forest and the road map that is laid out
17:53 in the management plan to achieve this
17:55 and so based on our planning results and
17:57 feedback from staff and the the
17:59 community the draft vision statement uh
18:01 reads as isqua envisions a thriving
18:04 Urban Forest were a diverse and cared
18:06 for tree canopy strengthens our
18:08 community for generations to come this
18:10 verdant tapestry will enhance our
18:13 livability promote health and well-being
18:15 support wildlife and habitat and
18:17 contribute to a sustainable future for
18:20 all and just note that the draft was
18:22 revised initially based on feedback we
18:25 received and it was uh developed with
18:27 feedback gathered from City St and
18:29 through our engagement with interested
18:33 parties then to direct the city towards
18:35 this Vision guiding principles were
18:37 drafted and these principles were
18:39 organized into themes that demonstrate
18:42 the city's priorities align with the
18:44 urban Forest audits I discussed and
18:46 they'll serve as a guiding Compass as
18:48 Urban Forest resources and conditions
18:50 change over time and City priorities may
18:53 change but these principles will guide
18:56 implementation going forward
19:00 and so similar to The isqua Climate
19:03 action plan the IAP the urban Forest
19:05 management plan or the UFM is a
19:08 functional plan according to the city's
19:10 planning framework meaning over a
19:12 10-year period the plan May inform other
19:15 functional plans and the city's
19:17 comprehensive plan this 10-year road map
19:20 in the UFM should be reviewed and
19:23 updated periodically and align with
19:25 budget
19:26 Cycles essential to achieving the plan's
19:29 vision is the implementation and
19:31 monitoring framework so we discuss what
19:33 we have in the current conditions and
19:35 this is how to address the challenges
19:38 and to meet the vision and so you'll
19:40 find in section three implementation
19:42 that the goals and strategies are
19:44 supported by priority actions initial
19:48 steps targets rankings um co- benefits
19:52 of implementing that action Associated
19:55 costs and the key players involved and
19:57 the final plan also include a separate
20:00 interactive implementation worksheet to
20:02 sort filter and track actions you know
20:05 maybe there's an opportunity that arises
20:07 and you can sort by the highest priority
20:09 with the lowest level of effort required
20:12 and look at the time frame for
20:14 implementation to really find those uh
20:16 actions that you can address um
20:18 immediately or in a longer term
20:21 strategy and so section three also
20:24 includes cost estimates for priority
20:26 actions and then appendix d details
20:29 these costs for Budget planning also
20:31 there's an uh an appendix um that
20:34 includes potential mechanisms and
20:36 sources to fund implementation and I'll
20:38 cover these in a little more detail
20:40 later but the next slide just gives you
20:42 an example of a strategy table uh where
20:45 additional information is provided to
20:47 support this
20:49 implementation and so to demonstrate
20:51 this DET this table details the steps uh
20:54 the targets and time frames for
20:57 implementing strategies under goal B1
21:00 which aims to address public tree
21:02 maintenance and risk management with a
21:04 public tree inventory and I do see that
21:07 you know I'm bringing up the inventory
21:08 often it's because it was identified as
21:11 a high priority for the city it can help
21:13 to um address priority maintenance
21:16 management decisions planting capacity
21:20 and levels of service tree canopy cover
21:23 vulnerabilities and also inform future
21:25 manage uh budget decisions so it is one
21:28 we look to um address more in this
21:31 presentation this evening and this table
21:34 also outlines the priority uh level of
21:36 effort required to implement along with
21:38 those co- benefits so those benefits of
21:41 implementing Beyond just helping the
21:43 urban Forest maybe it relates to
21:45 community or human health or um looking
21:47 at other themes of supporting and you
21:51 know to build support for implementing
21:53 that
21:54 action and these uh actions also include
21:57 cost indicators and again they can all
21:59 be sorted in that interactive worksheet
22:01 to really nail down um a work plan for
22:05 making for implementing the management
22:09 plan so then uh the strategies or
22:12 actions that do have a direct cost
22:15 associated with them include an
22:17 indicator in the tables um that I
22:19 discussed on the previous slide and
22:22 these costs are then supported by an
22:24 appendix that lays out potential funding
22:26 mechanisms and sources such as is the
22:28 ones listed here and just note that in
22:31 the appendix there's more information
22:33 around these types of mechanisms and um
22:36 considerations and specific data
22:38 relating to
22:42 isqua and so I also briefly mention the
22:45 appendices of the plan to support
22:47 implementation and so this slide just
22:49 summarizes the strategies and actions on
22:52 the left that are supported by an
22:54 appendix in the plan listed on the right
22:56 and the order the appendix name may
22:59 change a little bit but this gives you
23:00 an idea that Beyond just saying you
23:03 should do this we're trying to lay out
23:05 the steps and considerations the costs
23:08 uh best practices case studies uh tools
23:11 and resources out there to really help
23:14 you know make this possible because in
23:16 every Community we work with resources
23:18 are limiting time is always a factor and
23:21 so this will really help to nail down
23:23 those priority actions and the first
23:25 steps for implementation
23:29 so lastly in order for the UFM to be a
23:32 living working document monitoring of
23:34 the plan is critical and this slide
23:36 summarizes the key components of the
23:38 monitoring section of the plan it is
23:41 recommended the city pursue an update to
23:43 the urban Forest audit and indicators
23:45 and we're planning to provide the city
23:47 with training on how to do that uh we'll
23:49 be here along the way too after the
23:51 Project's done to help with you know
23:53 utilizing these Frameworks but I think
23:55 it really will serve as a consistent
23:57 framework for monit monitoring over the
23:59 years and adapting the plan and um we'll
24:02 provide templates on those audits so
24:04 that you can you know carry this forward
24:06 uh among the the tree team or the boards
24:09 involved with monitoring the plan we
24:12 also look to um provide guidance on
24:15 those audit and indicators and also um
24:19 uh ways in which you can monitor
24:21 Benchmark values that we established in
24:23 the planning process one metric is the
24:26 percentage of tree canopy cover it is
24:28 recommended to do a follow-up canopy
24:30 assessment so one Benchmark would be to
24:33 see how that canopy has changed and what
24:35 were the causes of canopy gains and
24:37 losses and how should you adapt the
24:40 strategies accordingly we also make
24:43 recommendations on reporting progress
24:45 internally and externally with
24:47 interested parties because they were all
24:49 involved in this process and we want
24:50 this to be a shared Vision with a city
24:53 commitment to the plan and so
24:54 communication is key and also U
24:57 Gathering feedback to make revisions to
24:59 the plan the monitoring section also
25:02 suggests the process for making
25:04 revisions uh based on your
25:06 evaluations as well as based on the
25:08 results of your monitoring and as as
25:10 changes to resources occur over
25:15 time so that concludes the presentation
25:18 uh we started with our requests uh which
25:20 I'll share again on the following slide
25:23 we discussed the project timeline and
25:25 process to prepare this latest draft I
25:28 covered highlights from the draft plan
25:30 specifically in the current conditions
25:32 section and then we looked at the
25:34 Frameworks and protocols for
25:35 implementing and monitoring the plan and
25:38 following this meeting we'll incorporate
25:40 your feedback into a final draft there's
25:42 going to be additional styling and
25:44 design applied to the plan just going to
25:46 be um looking at making it uh like I
25:49 said the executive summary as a
25:51 standalone document and um really just
25:54 doing the final touches based on the
25:55 feedback and discussions that we have
25:58 we'll then incorporate any additional
26:00 feedback and meet with the services
26:02 safety and uh Park City Council
26:05 subcommittee in October and we
26:07 anticipate adoption of the plan by City
26:10 Council in November so that the city is
26:12 ready to implement implement the plan
26:15 beginning in 2025 and so that's that's
26:17 our plan but we want to hear from you
26:20 and so I'm going to turn it over to Dan
26:21 again to talk about the purpose and
26:24 action requested of this meeting and
26:26 really just want to again thank you all
26:27 for your time and uh you know weighing
26:29 in on the draft plan and looking forward
26:32 to the open discussion here so thank
26:36 you thank you Chris um and again so yeah
26:39 this is a slide we started off the
26:41 presentation with um you know kind of
26:43 the focus again is on uh you know any
26:46 feedback um any questions you have on
26:48 the feedback or comments that we've
26:50 received as part of draft number one um
26:53 reviewing and providing feedback on the
26:54 implementation and monitoring sections
26:57 uh you know if there's any other
26:58 questions related to current conditions
27:00 obviously we can cover that too but like
27:01 I said these are kind of the new uh
27:03 pieces of information in additions to
27:05 the forest management plan since we last
27:07 met with you in June um and then once
27:09 we're done with questions discussion
27:11 anything there um we could make a draft
27:15 motion to recommend move this forward to
27:18 council or recommend moving it forward
27:20 with you know if there's any possible
27:21 revisions amendments that you're hoping
27:23 to see as part of that process um so
27:26 yeah we will we'll leave that to uh
27:28 Chris Chris is the board chair and the
27:30 rest of you all to to make that decision
27:32 but um I guess for now any questions for
27:35 myself Chris possibly Jeff and S as well
27:38 but
27:40 uh are you taking questions on like the
27:43 updates the plan broadly or yes so I
27:48 guess well we we could go through these
27:50 you know each of the purpose ones there
27:51 if you want to but it can also just be
27:52 broadly related the plan you know
27:55 current conditions things that we did
27:56 Cover back in June but certain have had
27:58 of attitude since then so it can be all
28:04 that is that a question from
28:08 Ryan hello this is uh I I tried to go
28:13 through all the pages and so maybe it's
28:14 in there and I missed this but if you go
28:17 Tosh slides back you don't have to but
28:19 you had said Chris that there's
28:23 uh a
28:25 review period and then there's a
28:29 make a new 5 to 10 year action plan was
28:32 the review period annually or was it
28:35 also 5 to 10 years to make a new five to
28:38 10 year plan after
28:42 that yeah good question there so uh one
28:45 of the recommendations uh looks at
28:48 canopy cover change and so um there
28:50 would be supporting assessments and
28:53 studies that would um provide
28:55 evaluations but there's um a a full uh
28:59 revision at um year 10 so there wouldn't
29:02 be um any major changes in the short
29:07 term okay yeah no if I could add it's a
29:11 really good question Ryan just add some
29:12 context looking back so the ca canopy
29:16 cover assessment is something the city
29:18 has done at least in my time here twice
29:21 now right so I think that that fiveyear
29:24 Mark is more referenced as Chris said to
29:27 a canopy cover assessment which is just
29:29 trying to
29:30 confirm um where we're at in terms of
29:32 percent can it be cover I think we
29:34 covered that in the June
29:36 conversation um and then updating this
29:38 type of document every 10 years and Ryan
29:41 I'll just add to uh you know we are
29:43 looking at doing annual reports just
29:45 kind of on General progress I think it's
29:47 printed you know probably a little bit
29:50 for um using the the audit tool um you
29:53 know maybe every two years especially if
29:55 we're kind of looking at new budget
29:56 Cycles kind of what we've accomplish
29:57 what those kind of next near-term you
29:59 know kind of two-year goals if you look
30:01 at the implementation section A lot of
30:02 stuff is one to three years three to
30:04 five years and then you know maybe more
30:05 longterm with that five to 10 range so
30:08 so they're they're kind of different
30:09 intermediate yeah there's kind of the
30:10 general kind of annual accomplishments
30:12 that we want to better kind of formulize
30:14 and use this plan as as really the
30:15 framework for how we put those reports
30:18 together I think every two years we're
30:19 obviously looking at budget request and
30:21 you know money to go along with some of
30:23 those Associated actions um and then you
30:25 know as Jeff and Chris Manet you know
30:27 mentioned roughly five years looking at
30:29 the uh Citywide tree canopy assessment
30:32 um and then also really that treat
30:34 canopy assessment really supports some
30:35 of the goals of Vis climate action of
30:37 course you've heard a lot about our 55%
30:40 canopy goal and then certainly with our
30:42 new land use code Title 18 uh and some
30:45 of the sub area or I heard we might be
30:47 changing those to neighborhoods um you
30:50 know so some of the uh right now I think
30:51 we have should know this 15 or so um you
30:55 know essentially sub areas that we have
30:56 TR canopy data from our first assment
30:58 back in 2019 and the idea is you know
31:01 having that data 5 years or so can
31:02 really help track you know the success
31:04 of implementing our our tree code and
31:06 and really try not to go backwards on
31:08 canopy so lots of benefits across
31:11 departments here
31:20 too question I'm looking at
31:30 was the in question I lost it
31:35 on in question number seven in the the
31:43 PDF it's like tracking the tracking on
31:46 yes
31:47 yes um that's all the rest of them are
31:49 in progress are done this is one the
31:52 only the wildlife the wildlife my
31:56 question I this was came up last time as
31:59 like a potential recommendation I don't
32:01 think last time I we saw it it had the
32:03 budget tied to it of the
32:06 $120,000 and so I'm just curious for
32:09 that amount of money what do we expect
32:10 to learn that we wouldn't be already we
32:13 wouldn't already be able to know or
32:16 understand um existing
32:20 data that's that's a good question I I
32:22 might defer to Chris on the kind of
32:24 budget estimate for that specifically
32:26 and it sounds like I think you've all
32:28 that as part of the park system plan
32:29 we're trying to keep that as consistent
32:31 as you know possible across plans here
32:33 we've heard a lot from I think this
32:35 group is certainly from the
32:36 environmental board and other interested
32:38 parties about the importance of uh you
32:40 know wildlife and habitat as it relates
32:42 to our Urban forest and and this plan we
32:44 did focus on it tonight we have a past
32:46 meetings around the riparian canopy
32:48 analysis was the first time we did that
32:49 in this part of this assessment uh you
32:52 know so that's looking more specifically
32:53 at you know salmon recovery and some of
32:55 the wildlife that obviously uses our
32:57 raran areas as as corridors I think
33:00 there's a desire to look a little bit
33:02 further past just those little bit more
33:04 kind of linear networks and look at
33:05 connectivity through the city and how
33:08 that relates to um and Jeff please
33:10 correct me or if you have different kind
33:11 of views on this but how it relates to
33:13 you know connectivity in our Park system
33:14 being mindful of course wanting to get
33:16 people from Creeks to Peaks but also you
33:18 know if we have heavily utilized
33:20 connections between tiger and squa
33:22 Mountain how do we kind of plan around
33:23 that that might even tie into our
33:24 transportation team in public works in
33:26 terms of wild connectivity uh whether
33:29 that's know about getting pipe dream
33:30 here but Wildlife Crossings or under
33:32 Crossings around hobar we know there's a
33:34 lot of Need for connections between
33:36 tiger and Spock mountains and see that
33:38 use with our partnership with Woodland
33:40 Park zoom and some of the camera
33:41 trapping we do with Wildlife we know we
33:44 we kind of know where some of these hot
33:46 spots are at but it's never really been
33:47 studied formalized or even a little bit
33:49 more details on what are those kind of
33:51 habitat UN in consideration for a kind
33:53 of wider array of species from you know
33:56 some of our bigger Car Wars to some of
33:58 our smaller Critters like M things like
34:00 that that also are really part important
34:02 part of the lab so Jeff if you anything
34:05 you want to add to that or yeah great
34:07 question Marlene I I think
34:09 it's think what we what would be gotten
34:12 out of an assessment or a actual you
34:14 know Urban Wildlife network plan or
34:17 corridor plan is trying to True up
34:20 anecdotally what we think we know right
34:23 so yes we have the partnership with the
34:26 zoo and have the coexisting with
34:28 carnivore cameras we have an idea of
34:30 where patterns and uses are but we don't
34:33 fully know um the details of of that and
34:38 so I think it's trying to become that
34:40 much more informed
34:43 um just for all aspects of operation of
34:46 the city um it's certainly a priority we
34:50 heard from U environmental board it's
34:53 something we heard from our partners at
34:55 the tribe um is just again that
34:58 understanding of not and to understand
35:00 not necessarily to limit what the city
35:02 does but to be that much better informed
35:04 as we are making Capital Investments as
35:08 we're um doing you know all variety of
35:12 of um providing services to
35:15 Residents so I I think that's probably
35:17 in question we're trying to make sure
35:19 it's as consistent as possible with you
35:21 know what ends up getting publish in the
35:22 park system plan which is you know a
35:24 month or so ahead of our time frame with
35:26 the forest management plan so um but we
35:29 have it in there I think that's
35:30 something you kind of figuring out the
35:31 scope Chris I don't know if you have
35:33 anything to add on you know kind of
35:34 where that cost estimate came
35:38 from yeah thanks Dan I was going to add
35:41 that I looked at my notes here and the
35:43 reason it says in question is primarily
35:45 because the terminology may change we
35:48 heard that it might be Wildlife network
35:50 instead of corridor and we also want to
35:52 make sure that we align it with the park
35:54 system Plan update in terms of
35:56 terminology and costs um the
36:00 $120,000 did come from notes received
36:03 around that it was not a study that we
36:05 did for estimating costs we can exclude
36:08 that given that it's a primary focus of
36:11 the park system plan and not include
36:13 that cost line item in the UFM but um
36:17 there's some context and that's partly
36:19 another reason for uh the status being
36:21 in question yeah and it is again an
36:24 estimate um I would I would say as a if
36:28 and when the city pursues doing that um
36:31 like we would aggressively pursue Grant
36:33 funds to help cover um a big part of
36:36 that there are Grant funds available to
36:39 to do that
36:41 work so I I have a question and you know
36:44 it's there's a lot to go through and um
36:48 I just get to the
36:50 um cost because um I I what I hear from
36:54 the city of Vis plot is that there the
36:57 are considering Cuts all across the
37:00 boards so I I noticed here the
37:02 recommendation that we will have um
37:04 three
37:06 arborous is is that I mean I guess my
37:09 question is um what are other cities
37:14 like Belleville and Seattle um do they
37:17 have that many um employees to work on
37:21 it and then um because for me you know
37:24 looking at how much in terms of the
37:28 the salary and the package and um so I'm
37:31 just and and looking at the like the
37:33 recommendation for for truck F450 you
37:37 know here we are we're talking about
37:40 tree and you know environmental friendly
37:43 is that something is that the message we
37:45 want to send we got the
37:48 F450 going up and down um you know the
37:52 city so I I I'm just kind of bringing
37:55 this up as to
37:58 I try to understand the importance of
38:01 the of what we're trying to do but at
38:03 the same time um looking at the cost and
38:07 just doing the cost benefit analysis and
38:09 then coming from a taxpayer I'm asking
38:12 the
38:14 question you know I mean we're paying
38:17 the city of Isa employees and now we are
38:21 who who's who's funding the dis spining
38:23 the bills yeah no it's a great question
38:25 I'll take a a first crack at that we're
38:27 we're always needing to balance cost
38:30 benefit um I would say as as we look at
38:34 setting a Target like that of um
38:38 internal resources for arborists or tree
38:41 expertise um I can tell you our approach
38:45 to date is probably what I would
38:47 recommend our approach moving forward is
38:49 that we we're not big enough as a city
38:51 an agency or a park maintenance group to
38:53 have
38:55 specialized single task employees so as
38:59 we look at increasing our arborist
39:01 expertise internally it's probably
39:03 someone who's a park maintenance worker
39:06 who also has an arborous license right
39:09 it's it's fulfilling that internal um
39:12 skill set with employees who are doing
39:16 other stuff as well um that is something
39:19 we constantly are always looking to do
39:23 um um in in the department right so as a
39:26 recommend ation it maybe we look at
39:30 rewarding it you know I I think our
39:32 intent
39:33 isn't three arborous who all they're
39:37 doing is arborous work they're probably
39:40 you know up to three of our Park
39:42 maintenance employees who have an
39:44 arborous license who are able to give
39:47 knowledge to Tree Management um
39:51 currently and again moving into the
39:53 future there are often cases where um we
39:56 need Outsource the actual tree work
39:59 right so how do we make sure we have
40:01 internal expertise to evaluate to
40:03 understand what's happening with the
40:04 tree um but if it's a big enough task or
40:09 a big enough project that's that's being
40:11 outsourced um so always a balancing act
40:15 we're always having to look at at
40:17 funding but we're all always trying to
40:20 look for um diversity of skills but also
40:26 um uh
40:29 multi capabilities of all of our
40:31 employees we're not big enough to be
40:34 single task
40:37 driven that
40:39 help I
40:42 just we do have I mean I got my
40:46 certification this year and we actually
40:48 have one of our parts work or two that
40:51 got that as well so we actually do have
40:52 two right now but to Jeff's Point yes
40:54 they're not you know focused ouris 100%
40:57 of the time and having that skill having
40:59 that ability to kind of lean as needed I
41:01 know you've probably have I'm guessing
41:03 interacted with Daniel Martinez who's
41:05 one of our community planners and does a
41:07 lot of our work with our tree permits I
41:09 know he's been very interested in trying
41:10 to get his certification that wouldn't
41:12 change his job dramatically essentially
41:14 it gives you the credential to to kind
41:16 of make some determinations hopefully
41:18 inform determinations on stuff as it
41:20 relates to trees so I'll say right now I
41:23 a decent chunk of my time I spend
41:25 supporting both Community planning and
41:27 public works it relates to uh needing
41:29 certified Arborist whether that's
41:31 recommendations or just you know kind of
41:32 informal Consulting um but yes having
41:36 having you know in an Ideal World I
41:37 would say having you know one in one in
41:40 Parks one in public works one in
41:41 community planning would be great like
41:43 now the only two in the city are
41:44 actually been Parks Services myself
41:48 Christie thanks Dan it's a great
41:51 example I just um also provide a
41:55 response is that all right
42:00 it's an important question around costs
42:02 and one thing that we try to do is put
42:04 cost to actions um to make sure that
42:07 this discussion happens I will say that
42:11 um in the Strat in the longterm
42:13 framework the strategies and actions do
42:15 not call for bringing on a three-person
42:18 in-house arborous crew what it does is
42:21 goal D3 says evaluate the Staffing level
42:24 structure and resources for tree related
42:26 program s and adjust as needed to meet
42:29 the goals of the plan and growing
42:31 demands of the urban forest and so the
42:34 um cost estimates and the appendix is
42:38 there for a supporting um resource for
42:41 consideration it may not be three and
42:43 you know um Jeff and Dan did a good job
42:46 of describing that it's going to be an
42:47 overlap of different you know
42:50 responsibilities um but I did just want
42:52 to mention that part of it and uh you
42:55 know there is a goal to increase canopy
42:56 C that means more trees more maintenance
43:00 um and then uh also we did Benchmark uh
43:04 19 other cities in the region to see
43:07 what their Staffing levels were and then
43:09 the um the internal staff survey spoke
43:12 to needs for equipment and Staffing so
43:16 like I said earlier this appendix around
43:19 cost and an in-house arborous crew could
43:21 be pulled out of the plan could be a
43:23 separate document for when the
43:25 conversation comes up again
43:27 um but uh it's yeah it's one of those
43:30 things that um we need to discuss and
43:32 see where it fits in the plan or if it's
43:35 um gets rewarded or structured
43:37 differently so thank
43:40 you so quick question all the funding
43:44 I'm looking at this I assume it's
43:45 conservative we're talking about $8.6
43:49 million over the next 10 years that's
43:52 that's the
43:53 number is that realistic are we going to
43:56 evaluate that every year I mean that's a
43:58 big number is it once it's approved it's
44:01 there you go 8.6 million for the next
44:03 years defitely much much like the park
44:06 system plan this is this is meant to be
44:08 aspirational it's meant to
44:11 highlight
44:13 um investment level that the city could
44:16 take but it is not a budget document it
44:18 is not a you know adoption of this is
44:21 not a mandate just like the park system
44:23 plan right it it's meant to set a vision
44:27 and then actual funding of this program
44:31 um is dependent upon annual budget
44:34 decisions of the city council so yeah
44:37 not a mandate and understand reviewed
44:40 every year a great questioning exactly
44:43 right above there where it says the
44:45 planning onetime cost 1.6 million right
44:48 so it's like do we want to spend that
44:50 knowing that we could cut the rest and
44:51 never implement the plan or could we in
44:55 theory use it for something like which
44:57 we know right I mean it's it's like if
45:00 you're going to spend the money you
45:01 should do it otherwise why you spend the
45:04 money in the first place right but I
45:07 understand yes we have to reevaluate
45:08 every year that's the smart thing to do
45:10 but how that6 is spent just on like all
45:13 the studies whether we do them or
45:18 not Chris do you have anything to to add
45:23 that they're
45:25 discussing um I heard the question
45:27 around the 8 point five the the overall
45:31 cost over the 10-year period and uh I
45:33 Echo what Jeff was saying that it would
45:36 not be fully committing to that cost
45:39 once the plan is adopted it would be uh
45:41 up for decision during budget planning
45:44 and how the city
45:45 prioritizes um different uh budget needs
45:50 yeah I don't have the slide in front of
45:51 me but I I think there 1.6 million in
45:55 planning I I don't I think that's meant
45:57 to be that has to be done on the front
46:00 end um
46:02 to yeah so marleene Chris I believe is
46:05 asking so on page 117 of the plan is the
46:08 summarizing you know potential City
46:10 incurred cost um and it has a total
46:12 onetime cost of
46:15 1.55 n or yeah one one and a half
46:18 million plus uh not to be incurred in
46:20 any single year so I think that looking
46:23 at some of the kind of plan development
46:26 spread out through about this but would
46:27 you mind clarifying that a little bit
46:29 yeah yeah thank you I'm on that page now
46:31 and
46:32 um if helpful if it's permitted you know
46:37 just let me know if not I can go back to
46:38 the presentation but
46:41 um good okay yeah so um what we did was
46:45 just roll up the entire cost of doing
46:47 everything and so that you get a feel of
46:49 what the ask is but if you look at you
46:52 know really the priority um would be
46:55 around the inventory that was discuss
46:57 the plantings to achieve the canopy goal
47:00 and so um we look at um what the the
47:04 total onetime cost would be is adding up
47:07 these um actions and strategies that
47:09 have a cost to them so it wouldn't be
47:11 that you're doing an emerald ashor plan
47:14 the same year that you're doing
47:15 neighborhood planting plans the same
47:17 year that you're doing you know the um
47:20 an engagement strategy to uh um support
47:24 implementation it would be whatever
47:27 decided during the budget planning
47:28 process and this would just be in maybe
47:31 an Ideal World if everything was done uh
47:34 what the cost would be um but then the
47:37 10-year cost then takes into account the
47:40 um planting post-planting care ongoing
47:43 maintenance of trees to achieve um the
47:47 canopy goal while doing these other
47:49 things as well you know um Inventory
47:51 management software and all of the other
47:54 items listed and it also includes
47:57 for consideration that threepers
47:59 arborous crew so there's going to be
48:02 some reworking of these cost tables on
48:05 um but this can serve as a separate
48:08 document as well for you know when the
48:10 opportunity arises for um considering
48:13 some of these um actions that require uh
48:18 funding and uh there's a separate
48:20 worksheet that really breaks down where
48:22 these costs come from it just wasn't uh
48:26 this was the best way to format it in a
48:28 in a um a summary table but if you have
48:31 specific questions on the uh cost for
48:35 plantings because we consider um we
48:39 consider uh caliper size plantings we
48:42 consider seedlings consider maintenance
48:44 uh city-led plantings uh privately Le
48:48 plantings we also look at um for
48:51 management costs uh we look at the um
48:55 post planting care and then the ongoing
48:58 maintenance for establishment and then
49:00 as it gets into uh routine tree pruning
49:03 if it's a tree in you know like a main a
49:06 landscaped area or along a
49:09 streetscapes and I'll just add last
49:11 thing on David's point that Jeff kind of
49:13 already hinted at when we talking about
49:14 the wildlife Corridor or network study
49:18 um you know is also listed here with
49:19 that $120,000 estimate you know a lot a
49:22 lot of this a tree inventory included
49:24 you know we really looking at Grant
49:25 funds Department natural resources have
49:27 a fairly strong program that that has
49:30 has fed most of be tree inventories and
49:32 some are Forest management plans in the
49:34 area too so I mean that those will be
49:36 resources we'll be looking at the short
49:37 term to to implement some of these
49:39 short-term goals um but that being said
49:41 I mean it's still you know there's still
49:43 you know cost that we look at through
49:44 the city when that is appropriate when
49:46 that is available but you know some of
49:47 these things definitely be leading into
49:49 to gr programs as well and then the last
49:52 thing Chris mentioned if you all
49:54 familiar with says Cal caliper trees
49:56 where about
49:57 usually pushing 2 in diameter you know
50:01 trees so we're talking about ball burlap
50:03 or large pots so a lot of the estimates
50:06 around tree numbers to achieve the 55%
50:09 goal were based on that I think we have
50:10 somewhere in here you know about 400
50:13 plus dollars per tree for you know
50:15 materials and labor um that's that's
50:18 high end I mean a lot of our planting we
50:20 do are with seedlings one two gallon
50:23 even beo plants so younger you're going
50:25 to have higher mortality they're a lot
50:27 cheaper you know we're talking more of
50:28 the five to 10 to maybe 20 $30 a piece
50:32 obviously some Associated labor and
50:33 maintenance so there's there's
50:35 ultimately going to probably be a mix of
50:36 that but you know we're kind of looking
50:38 at the high end especially if we're
50:39 looking at that kind of 10 year time
50:41 frame and achieving that canopy goal by
50:44 2035 you know obviously the bigger
50:45 material you put in the quicker it will
50:48 achieve that uh you know canopy height
50:50 but uh so that that's something I think
50:52 that's worth calling out too when we
50:53 talk about caliber treat you know the
50:55 Assumption for a lot of those planting
50:56 cost is but we're putting in six s foot
50:58 tall 2 in diameter trees and not you
51:00 know one to two foot seed length which
51:02 which we we do a lot of through
51:05 qu for you know you going to budgets Etc
51:08 but on
51:10 slide it's page three of the plan that's
51:14 slide 15 in the PDF um it's the existing
51:19 programs and operations slide one I
51:21 think your Char is not doing you any
51:23 favor is the 9.11 versus 8.53
51:29 aggressive I'm just curious that that's
51:31 our current right so if I'm looking at
51:34 this we're spending 36 is it do I read
51:38 this as we're spending 36% of our budget
51:41 on tree planting and initial here
51:43 currently of our tree related
51:45 expenditures yes so yeah I think I think
51:47 Marlene's talking about yes so page page
51:49 three in the plan is Chris talked about
51:52 doing The Benchmark study essentially
51:54 comparing us to 19 SAR size cities and
51:57 our region uh this is information that's
51:59 all submitted through our tree City USA
52:01 status which we've been doing for 30
52:03 plus years now um so yes we are looking
52:06 at essentially the uh ratios and it's
52:09 not surprising we do spend a lot on tree
52:11 planting initial care maybe not quite as
52:13 much on uh you know the kind of the
52:15 maintenance and management but of course
52:16 that's increased a lot just in the last
52:18 year through hiring my position and our
52:19 volunteer coordinator um so yeah we were
52:22 looking at that kind of dollars per
52:24 capita and you for it's worth you know
52:25 Tre C say it requires a minimum $2 per
52:28 capita that St plus some other
52:30 requirements too but um my question is
52:34 Right 911 right
52:36 now what is this plan put us set I'm not
52:39 sure we've done that
52:42 calculation and also to to just point we
52:45 haven't committed to you know spending
52:47 or funding it's hard to like recommended
52:51 plan I don't have any
52:54 scale yeah no it's it's a it's a great
52:57 point I don't
52:58 know um it'd be interesting to make sure
53:01 we're comparing Apples to Apples but at
53:04 you know $9.11 per capita this is
53:06 roughly saying you know we're investing
53:09 about 300 and some thousand a year
53:12 $36,000 a year in in Tree Management and
53:16 yeah comped to other 19 cities we we're
53:19 probably doing pretty well but we also
53:21 have a big a big you know thousand plus
53:25 acres of Urban Forest that this city has
53:28 chosen to purchase over the decades that
53:30 you know we we need to Steward so um I
53:34 think it's
53:35 does I
53:38 can't yeah you know and I'm not and I'm
53:40 not defending I'm just saying yeah we
53:43 we're um I think this does us a good
53:45 service and that it it we're we're
53:47 investing at a pretty good rate um my
53:51 Apples to Apples comment was more I
53:52 think it would be informative
53:54 instructive to take that prior table if
53:57 our Target is roughly and and when you
54:00 roll up a 10-year number it looks huge
54:02 right 88 million that's if that rolled
54:06 up that if that's 800 and some thousand
54:09 a year that we're saying we want to try
54:11 and invest over the next 10 years if
54:14 we're already at 300 and some thousand I
54:16 want is is that Apples to Apples right
54:19 is that
54:20 comparable um that could at least give
54:23 context to say hey we're doing well with
54:27 our current investment at X if we really
54:30 wanted to um start looking at some of
54:34 these other goals the investment rate we
54:36 could consider is this but again once
54:39 once again just like the park system
54:41 plan this is not
54:43 requiring us to take this action it's
54:46 just saying hey here's we really want to
54:48 be stewards of this for us that the
54:50 community has chosen to buy over the
54:52 last 40 years here's what we should be
54:56 aware of or at least considering so that
54:59 might help give I don't know if that
55:01 would
55:02 help at least give scale least
55:06 scale so we think we need to double our
55:10 investment in urban forestry to and that
55:13 might be true I'm just ask to to to
55:16 potentially try to accomplish everything
55:18 in here I mean I I was just doing some
55:19 just quick quick math you know the
55:21 things we've presented as possible
55:23 addition in the next budget cycle with
55:25 once again the caveat that a lot of us
55:26 will be looking through you know non-
55:28 General funds whether that's grant
55:29 funding whether that's our dedicated
55:30 tree fund that we haven't to be honest
55:32 been real great at tapping your
55:34 utilizing as a city here over the past
55:36 um you know we looked at putting a
55:38 placeold for $80,000 in for the uh tree
55:41 inventory you know another 25 or so
55:44 thousand dollar for um you know plant
55:47 material planting over kind of over the
55:49 next two years so I mean that that is
55:52 maybe not a doubling as much as it's
55:53 like about a time and a half so you know
55:55 with that addition you know kind of
55:56 status quo we looking at more maybe like
55:58 $12 per capita or something like that
56:00 and that that's really just forecasting
56:01 the next two years where we have a
56:03 little bit more want to say certainty
56:04 but a better idea of what we were hoping
56:06 to pull from this plan and then continue
56:08 to build out this program and any
56:11 for in the park plan right so like is
56:15 this separate from the park plan or is
56:16 this in the budget of the park plan so
56:20 like we have a park plan budget and
56:21 there's an urban forestry budget is a is
56:23 it sit nested underneath or first this
56:26 would be this would be separate right
56:28 the park system plan is really looking
56:31 at capital investment within the park
56:35 system this plan is looking at
56:38 management and maintenance of the urban
56:41 Forest right um so I wouldn't say it's
56:45 totally nested there might be some
56:47 degree of overlap um I think another
56:49 just key consideration is that per
56:52 whatever the per capita number is we're
56:53 at currently or striving to or what will
56:56 be in the
56:57 future that likely assumes a decent
57:00 amount of that as Grant funded as well
57:03 again how are we leveraging so per
57:06 capita might be a confusing way to it's
57:08 not as if everyone's paying $9 and some
57:12 $12 into it it's that's just
57:15 the The Divided rate um uh per resident
57:21 uh but again grants are a huge we're
57:25 very aggressive with leveraging local
57:28 dollars with with grants so um maybe
57:31 there's um there a great discussion it
57:34 feels like maybe there's some additional
57:37 context we could give to these
57:40 um aspirations or maybe you
57:44 know so like we keep talking about it
57:46 being aspiration is it like hey it's p
57:49 in the sky I think we're actually to get
57:51 50% of this or is it like about 80%
57:54 there and maybe you know there's 20%
57:56 that's probably a little bit too ous
57:58 well aspiration I'll I'll let I'll let
58:01 the experts follow me please but I guess
58:04 when I say aspirational I see it as this
58:07 is this is we want to get to a level
58:11 where we can
58:13 manage the public Urban forest in this
58:16 way um we're aspirational terms of time
58:20 are we going to get there in 10 years
58:21 are we going to be able to do all of
58:22 this in 10 years probably not um we we
58:26 want to get to all of this but it might
58:28 take us 20 plus years to to get there as
58:32 opposed to as opposed to 10 so it's more
58:35 the rate than it
58:38 is how much you want to do similar to
58:41 the park system plan right that we would
58:44 love to do everything in the near- term
58:46 in the near-term midterm longterm but
58:48 it's really going to be dependent on
58:50 upon Community deciding how much they
58:52 want to invest their Capital dollars
58:55 into the Park
58:58 system and I guess I'll add to that is
59:00 the biggest variable cost obviously is
59:02 this tree planting gold which TR achieve
59:04 55% and that's something this group
59:06 discussed both the feasibility and the
59:08 practicality of that so I think that's
59:10 something that we need to revisit
59:12 throughout this 10year process it also
59:14 relates to our climate action plan and
59:15 it's touched upon on this Forest
59:17 management plan too there's there's big
59:19 variables that we won't know about for
59:21 another year or two for instance the
59:23 state building code is proposed
59:24 defensible space as part of allow fire
59:26 preparedness and the initial maps that
59:28 Publishers stood now advising showed
59:30 pretty much the entirety isic well we're
59:31 hoping it's going to be a little more
59:33 fine grain than that but you know that
59:35 would be putting huge implications on
59:37 you know essentially not having Tre with
59:39 30 feet structures and all a sudden our
59:40 C to goal and our planting goals are
59:42 absolutely getting revised downside so
59:45 there's there's a lot of variability so
59:46 I would say the aspirational variable
59:49 cost of years is is is mostly connected
59:52 to our 55% Tre canity goal in our isical
59:55 climate action plan I know there's
59:56 already been discussions amongst this
59:58 board environmental board around
1:00:01 feasibility practicality and I would say
1:00:03 that is that is aspirational I think
1:00:05 we'll have some kind of more ground
1:00:06 tracing on on that over the next few
1:00:09 years based on things out of our control
1:00:10 and then certainly you know what we're
1:00:12 able to to do as a program around around
1:00:14 funding and tree planting there but like
1:00:16 I said the wild fire stuff huge in terms
1:00:19 of impacts that might have on on tree
1:00:23 canopy it's a great connection Dan
1:00:25 you're right this the rate of tree
1:00:28 planting and Tree Management as it
1:00:30 pertains to trying to hit that
1:00:33 55% um will have a cost I mean it has a
1:00:36 it has a higher cost and not here to
1:00:39 judge but you know it's that if we're at
1:00:42 you know 51 or 53 you know what is that
1:00:45 extra 3%
1:00:48 4% costing like Chris or someone might
1:00:51 have asked that at the meeting June hly
1:00:53 where there maybe diminishing returns or
1:00:56 you know where that's at and and I do
1:00:57 want to call out that I know this isn't
1:00:59 Revenue but the current conditions you
1:01:00 know talks about the because we talk
1:01:02 about the cost of Maintenance the
1:01:04 installation but you know hopefully not
1:01:06 lose track of you know also the benefits
1:01:09 these trees and the serent forest
1:01:10 providing storm water retention as it
1:01:12 relates to heat island you know impacts
1:01:14 we're already dealing with and trying to
1:01:15 lessen that as it relates to you know
1:01:17 just our mental health and physical
1:01:19 health of having a community you know
1:01:20 that's that's pretty well greened for
1:01:23 lack of a better term there so that is
1:01:25 in the current condition section where
1:01:26 we're looking at you know it tree is
1:01:28 really the the go-to tool for trying to
1:01:30 put a value on you know individual trees
1:01:32 or Urban forests and we're looking at
1:01:34 two two million plus a year as it
1:01:36 relates to air quality improvement Stone
1:01:38 Water Management you know great
1:01:39 infrastructure carbet SE all that sort
1:01:42 of stuff so um that's tough because that
1:01:44 doesn't mean we're getting a check for
1:01:46 million but but I hope people don't lose
1:01:49 sight of the the you know essentially
1:01:51 ecosystem service benefits that our
1:01:53 trees are for huge return on that
1:01:56 and Chris has his hand
1:01:59 up great thanks and I'll apologize if
1:02:03 I'm asking for some repeated information
1:02:06 um learning that it's a little harder to
1:02:08 hear some some of the folks questions
1:02:11 comments um
1:02:14 so with this uh report and uh
1:02:19 update one of the or two we have kind of
1:02:22 two options as a board we asked either
1:02:25 to rec commend moving forward with the
1:02:27 draft Urban Forest management plan to uh
1:02:30 for city council to adopt it or uh
1:02:34 recommend that uh staff make
1:02:36 modifications and bring back another a
1:02:38 next version before we uh make that
1:02:40 recommendation um before we come to that
1:02:43 decision just hearing some of our own
1:02:45 comments I guess I'd like to ask for
1:02:48 maybe clarification if my understanding
1:02:50 is correct so this is sort of an ideal
1:02:54 plan with an ideal
1:02:57 budget and you know it
1:03:01 is Thoroughly written and and uh you
1:03:04 know deeply investigated and and
1:03:06 researched you can you know you can see
1:03:08 that in it and you can read it um but
1:03:11 and I think one of the concerns that was
1:03:14 uh conveyed is hey is this going to take
1:03:17 8.6 million from Park facilities that
1:03:20 are very near and dear to many of our uh
1:03:23 board members hearts
1:03:26 and I guess I would like to confirm
1:03:28 let's say the board you know makes a
1:03:31 recommendation to move this forward it
1:03:33 goes to city council city council still
1:03:36 has to look at both this as part of one
1:03:40 of their budget items and whatever we're
1:03:43 asking for whatever parks department is
1:03:45 asking for for Capital
1:03:47 Improvements and they will be the final
1:03:51 decision makers on what budgets get
1:03:53 approved and what don't
1:03:56 uh is that is that a correct
1:03:58 understanding yes very correct Chris and
1:04:00 even put a finer point on that
1:04:04 um investments into our Park system
1:04:07 would be Capital Investments so those
1:04:09 would be and and uh these Tree
1:04:12 Management uh Forest management
1:04:15 conversations would be part of the
1:04:16 operating budget so just putting those
1:04:19 these two would not be competing against
1:04:21 one another for um similar funding
1:04:27 okay thank
1:04:31 you are there any more questions I I
1:04:34 can't quite tell but let me
1:04:38 know anyone else comments
1:04:42 questions great discussion and also you
1:04:45 know there's there's room for some more
1:04:48 editing and revising here based on this
1:04:51 conversation um that will definitely be
1:04:53 happening this is not you know final
1:04:56 final version um and any action that you
1:05:00 all take as a board is um advisory and
1:05:03 can come with you know an extra copy out
1:05:05 of as long as you know these changes or
1:05:09 clarifications are sort of added in if
1:05:11 needed like there's there's definitely
1:05:12 flexibility there um for that we could
1:05:15 like email some thoughts later on after
1:05:17 the fact I was not here I was on part of
1:05:20 the board when the first draft of this
1:05:22 was done so I'm still kind of ingesting
1:05:26 and so this just helped clarify a lot of
1:05:28 things just in my first P of so I might
1:05:30 have thoughts later on to just add to it
1:05:33 even if we were to say this looks good
1:05:36 pass it along you know absolutely have
1:05:38 to remind be a public comment process
1:05:40 for the parts committee if you're
1:05:42 assuming that's what youall recommend us
1:05:44 to move forward to in October so I mean
1:05:46 it is certainly not the last time this
1:05:47 would be seen with the public but um
1:05:51 andi's Point too yes if there's you know
1:05:53 we recommend to move forward but we want
1:05:55 to reassess look at this whether that's
1:05:57 you know we've already talked about the
1:05:59 know 3% in arus crew which is a
1:06:01 significant cost of that or just you
1:06:04 know continual kind of reassessment of
1:06:05 some of those tree planting targets
1:06:07 relates to IAP you know those are really
1:06:09 two largest and probably most variable
1:06:12 cost over the 10 years of this uh you
1:06:14 know to to maybe more right siiz this
1:06:16 for uh City
1:06:23 resources okay Chris can't
1:06:31 okay so um sounds like we have a
1:06:34 decision here as a
1:06:37 board Marlene has one more question yeah
1:06:40 oh please go ahead sorry chis I know
1:06:42 you're trying to move us along and I
1:06:44 appreciate it no problem I just can't
1:06:47 see is on
1:06:50 108 of
1:06:53 the basically starts on
1:06:57 my question is about the implementation
1:06:59 plan priorities
1:07:02 321 like can you just explain so I'm
1:07:04 guessing priority three means it's the
1:07:06 your lowest priority I just want
1:07:08 confirm work
1:07:11 yes page is that um so I mean it's
1:07:15 throughout the implementation plan I'm
1:07:17 at page 101 so so three is the highest
1:07:21 yes three is the highest priority or the
1:07:23 lowest priority uh Chris correctly if
1:07:25 I'm wrong in the prioritization for the
1:07:27 implementation table we have one to
1:07:28 three with three being a high higher
1:07:31 highest Priority One being so
1:07:33 essentially kind of a three
1:07:35 tier right after
1:07:37 that number one priority is actually
1:07:40 priority the way I should this
1:07:46 right it works well with the interactive
1:07:49 worksheet the way we have it set up but
1:07:51 yeah there is a table on page 100 to of
1:07:55 the plan to describe it but yeah good
1:07:57 question there and I will say it it
1:07:59 includes the audit results staff and uh
1:08:03 uh interested party feedback and our um
1:08:08 urban forestry recommendation to align
1:08:10 with industry standards and best
1:08:12 practices so that's something that you
1:08:14 know as you uh Monitor and evaluate the
1:08:17 plan the priority may change but it's a
1:08:20 starting point to really narrow down on
1:08:23 um those items to address in the short
1:08:26 term got it thank you I should have
1:08:28 heard the key at the top I jumped right
1:08:29 into the
1:08:31 details worri I do the same
1:08:37 thing okay thank you sorry than to you
1:08:43 Chris uh okay so our decision is do we W
1:08:49 do we have a motion to recommend moving
1:08:52 forward with this uh this current draft
1:08:56 Urban Forest management plan perhaps
1:08:58 with some you know additional revisions
1:09:01 responsive to this meeting uh uh for
1:09:04 city council
1:09:10 adoption I could make a
1:09:13 motion oh second it I can second it okay
1:09:18 so Chris sounds like we have someone to
1:09:20 second that
1:09:21 motion okay uh all those in favor please
1:09:25 raise your hand and Asanti if you could
1:09:27 help me count yeah so I also all
1:09:30 alternate um Canon should vote because
1:09:37 have five I've got six in the room and
1:09:39 two on screen so
1:09:43 everyone say again HTI please so that's
1:09:46 eight votes all eight
1:09:48 unanimous okay then we don't need to
1:09:51 talk about the other motion which was to
1:09:53 revisit it and bring it back
1:09:55 um okay then I think that concludes that
1:10:00 item is that
1:10:01 correct it does can I ask Clarity in
1:10:04 that 80 thank you for that um Dan Chris
1:10:08 thank you a bunch is there in our
1:10:11 discussion I think we talked about maybe
1:10:14 clarifying the arborist piece a little
1:10:17 bit more agree with that um clarifying
1:10:21 some of the I think just the the budget
1:10:24 piece around
1:10:26 what do aspirational mean um what what
1:10:29 does this $8 million number really look
1:10:33 like you know really good feedback and I
1:10:36 think it might be helpful Chris P and
1:10:39 Dan to to try and do some revision
1:10:41 because I I think parkboard questions
1:10:44 are going to be very reflective of what
1:10:46 could be city council questions as well
1:10:48 so um really really helpful discussion
1:10:51 big thank you to all of you also big
1:10:53 thank you we had an ad hoc group that
1:10:55 helped to do some of the lift here that
1:10:57 included Brad book former Park Board
1:10:59 member and Zach as well so uh former
1:11:04 Park board members who continued to uh
1:11:06 do really thoughtful and and good work
1:11:09 so thanks to both of
1:11:11 them Jeff and yeah thank you all um and
1:11:14 and Paul to your point to the rest of
1:11:16 you I yes if you have questions comments
1:11:18 even minor feedback edits or further
1:11:21 thoughts on some of these kind of bigger
1:11:23 budget discussions be had tonight please
1:11:24 don't take to send them directly to me
1:11:27 or foron and Jeff whatever is easiest uh
1:11:30 I would say if possible you know ideally
1:11:32 in the next you know one to two weeks as
1:11:34 we kind of shape this up and then you
1:11:36 know try to get it Council Council sub
1:11:38 commmittee I should say on October 15 so
1:11:41 try to have a week lead time for that so
1:11:43 that's you know about two weeks out that
1:11:44 we'll be you know putting together um
1:11:47 memo and materials for that meeting and
1:11:49 U you know any any adjustments that
1:11:51 we're still working on this draft and
1:11:52 the plan um so please don't hesitate or
1:11:55 if you want set a quick call with me
1:11:56 that would be
1:11:58 great thank you I just wanted to say
1:12:01 thank you for I mean obviously it's a
1:12:02 very detailed plan um so everybody who
1:12:05 works on it and also I could just tell
1:12:07 when you spoke about it you're super
1:12:08 passionate about it so thank you yeah
1:12:12 yeah thank you appreciate
1:12:15 that all right well thank you all these
1:12:17 are the conversations we need I
1:12:19 appreciate everyone's thoughtful
1:12:21 questions so I'll be syncing up with Dan
1:12:23 to go over these and yeah thank you for
1:12:26 the time
1:12:28 tonight good thanks Chris
1:12:31 Chris thank you Dan and
1:12:34 Chris okay uh next regular business item
1:12:37 is the donation bench program update and
1:12:41 uh HTI is gonna present
1:12:44 [Music]
1:12:53 is thanks again
1:12:58 everyone um so I don't know how many of
1:13:01 you all know this but we here at the
1:13:04 city of Visa have a donation bench
1:13:06 program um that was started actually
1:13:08 back in
1:13:09 2019 um and it's an opportunity for the
1:13:12 community to sort of make some more
1:13:15 investments in our Park system and sort
1:13:18 of support our Park system as a whole um
1:13:21 offer space for all of our community um
1:13:24 and an opportunity to have a little bit
1:13:27 of acknowledgement and recognition um
1:13:29 either in Parks or places that have
1:13:31 meaning for them or for loved ones um we
1:13:35 have um had this program like I said
1:13:38 since 2019 um and we put a short pause
1:13:42 on the program um in
1:13:45 2023 about um partially because we were
1:13:49 having some issues with the bench
1:13:51 manufacturing and and Supply actually um
1:13:54 and then we also just kind of needed to
1:13:56 give the whole program another look and
1:13:58 make sure that it's still functioning as
1:14:00 it needs to um so I'm going to just go
1:14:03 through a little bit of sort of what the
1:14:05 current program looks like how many
1:14:07 benches we have um and then go through
1:14:10 what the ordinance language was that
1:14:12 this program was adopted through so all
1:14:15 donations at the city sort of go through
1:14:17 this ordinance process um for how they
1:14:20 are accepted as a city um so whether
1:14:23 that's a monetary donation um a donation
1:14:27 for specific project or um program or a
1:14:32 donation of actual physical items and so
1:14:34 we set this program up as um a a
1:14:38 donation towards the cost of a bench
1:14:42 that can be then installed in a park um
1:14:44 and some of the language that we're
1:14:47 proposing changes to it um just cover
1:14:50 more of that cost um as we've gone
1:14:54 through the program realize sort of oh
1:14:56 just the bench is not quite everything
1:14:58 that goes into installing a bench in one
1:15:01 um and then um at the end of this I'm
1:15:04 hoping for some action from the board um
1:15:06 to move the ordinance language forward
1:15:09 for city council to review and then
1:15:11 adopt the changes and they're pretty
1:15:13 minor changes but we can go through what
1:15:15 they are and if anybody has any
1:15:16 questions please by any means stop me
1:15:19 during after throughout um so just a
1:15:23 little look there's a couple of pictures
1:15:25 of some of our current um donations
1:15:27 Ventures right now um one of them along
1:15:30 the Rainer trail near the community
1:15:32 center there's one in Confluence Park
1:15:35 and then these bottom two are actually
1:15:37 at um Central Park looking over some of
1:15:39 the field space um and so like I
1:15:42 mentioned the program started in 2019
1:15:44 and we took a pause in 2023 so far we've
1:15:48 had 13 benches donated um across
1:15:51 multiple Community Parks um and we
1:15:54 actually have one in a neighborhood park
1:15:56 over at Blackberry Park when that um
1:15:58 Park renovation was happening there was
1:16:00 um a group that wanted to donate a bunch
1:16:02 there and so we don't typically have
1:16:05 this program available in neighborhood
1:16:07 parks but that one felt really special
1:16:09 for that neighborhood and so there's
1:16:10 actually a bench over at Blackberry Park
1:16:12 as well um and there's lots of different
1:16:16 options for where these benches can be
1:16:19 um and so this map is very tiny on here
1:16:22 it's really hard to get our our entire
1:16:26 into one frame and even this isn't the
1:16:28 whole city but these little dots that
1:16:30 you're seeing up here are the bench
1:16:32 location options so um the park planners
1:16:35 actually went out and looked at all of
1:16:37 our spaces throughout our Park system
1:16:40 and mostly in our community parks of
1:16:42 places where it'd be really great to
1:16:44 have a bench here we don't currently
1:16:46 have you know the inventory or the
1:16:49 funding to cover this but this could be
1:16:50 a really great spot for a Community
1:16:52 member who maybe wants to have a bench
1:16:54 and have some sort of commemoration
1:16:56 there um and so um I believe the red
1:17:00 dots are where um benches already
1:17:03 currently exist um that are part of the
1:17:05 program and then the black dots are
1:17:07 locations that are still available um we
1:17:10 have been sort of going through all of
1:17:12 our parks and assessing whether there
1:17:13 are more locations that could be added
1:17:16 um there are some spaces in one of our
1:17:19 along one of our nature trails to add
1:17:21 some benches um down in uh swalk Valley
1:17:26 North um and so that also may be
1:17:29 something that we start assessing as we
1:17:31 sort of work on our Trail network of if
1:17:33 there's more locations that these
1:17:34 donation benches could potentially be
1:17:37 located so just sorry no no it's great
1:17:40 don't apologize really good overview
1:17:42 something just I think just to emphasize
1:17:45 intentionality was a big part of this
1:17:48 program is um how we in fact coming out
1:17:52 of the 2018 Park plan adop option adding
1:17:56 seating along our Trails our community
1:17:58 Parks was a high priority and so we
1:18:01 really wanted this program to be one of
1:18:04 hey let's have our Park planning team
1:18:05 identify those specific locations that
1:18:08 really could use a bench and invite the
1:18:10 community to donate those areas so it's
1:18:13 really a matching Community need with
1:18:17 Community interest in um making an
1:18:20 investment into the into the system so
1:18:22 it's been a really big success that
1:18:26 I didn't
1:18:28 know um so there is a portion of the
1:18:32 ordinance that I put in here it a lot of
1:18:35 it is I will say sort of you know
1:18:38 ordinance jargon um and so there's a lot
1:18:41 of wear ases in there um but this is
1:18:44 like the main portion of the ordinance
1:18:46 that we're looking at that really talked
1:18:49 about offsetting the cost um of the
1:18:52 purchase of a bench um and that that
1:18:56 donation would go towards again the
1:18:58 purchase price um and potentially some
1:19:02 Associated costs for maintenance and
1:19:03 management ongoing and so the reality of
1:19:07 these benches is they're for the most
1:19:10 part we've sort of phased them at a
1:19:12 15year sort of life cycle for those
1:19:15 benches and so to maintain and manage
1:19:18 them for 15 years there's not a ton of
1:19:20 costs to them um but there is like some
1:19:23 incremental cost making sure that they
1:19:26 you know are cleaned every so often um
1:19:29 and stay free of you know um graffiti
1:19:33 and dirt and all those things um and
1:19:35 then also the part that is towards the
1:19:38 purchase price so when this program
1:19:41 started in 2019 benches cost a certain
1:19:45 dollar amount um then Co happened
1:19:48 benches cost a different dollar amount
1:19:51 and then during Co actually our manuf
1:19:54 factur that we were using um their
1:19:57 quality changed drastically and their
1:20:00 lead times just became like far too long
1:20:02 for us to be able to maintain the
1:20:04 program um so someone was coming and
1:20:06 saying they wanted to donate a bench we
1:20:09 were going through the process and then
1:20:11 for some of them it was up to a year
1:20:13 later that we were able to actually get
1:20:14 the bench and install that which didn't
1:20:16 feel like a really good way it was
1:20:18 managing a program and the pause that we
1:20:21 put on the program um and so during that
1:20:23 pause we sort of been reassessing
1:20:25 looking at costs um and also
1:20:28 reevaluating for a new um manufacturer
1:20:32 and so we found one that matches pretty
1:20:35 closely that has much shorter lead time
1:20:37 that is there's a local um supplier that
1:20:40 we can order them through um and so
1:20:43 we're sort of ready to make that that
1:20:44 new um open the program back up um but
1:20:48 with that the cost of the benches has
1:20:49 risen about twice to what they were
1:20:53 originally when this program started
1:20:55 um so that's that's a big cost and then
1:20:57 another cost that we sort of have been
1:20:59 looking at is um the actual foundation
1:21:03 for the benches so in some of the places
1:21:06 the concrete foundation already exists
1:21:08 and so that's a quick easy you know if
1:21:10 there's a bench there we're sort of
1:21:11 taking that bench out a couple screws
1:21:13 put another one in um but for some of
1:21:16 them we actually have to pour concrete
1:21:18 paths and so that concrete and that
1:21:20 labor and maintenance work brings that
1:21:22 cost up a little bit more to um and I
1:21:25 think what we've sort of noticed is
1:21:27 there's more places that need that for
1:21:30 these benches than not um and if it's
1:21:32 getting placed in a nature um location
1:21:36 that obviously the concrete cost is
1:21:38 different but there is other footings
1:21:40 that do need to be sort of done and put
1:21:42 in place um
1:21:44 so um I kind of already went through
1:21:47 sort of what the the rationale is for
1:21:49 these um but the proposed language
1:21:53 actually this is a change we had a
1:21:55 conversation with our City attorney
1:21:57 about this recently um who helps with
1:21:59 some of our ordinance language um and
1:22:02 what we're actually proposing changing
1:22:04 the language to is instead of just
1:22:06 offsetting the cost to look closer to
1:22:09 covering the cost of the bench and the
1:22:12 potential like footing um with the
1:22:16 assumption that most of them will work
1:22:17 required at um and recognizes sort of
1:22:21 the change and Rising costs the current
1:22:24 language allows for some flexibility to
1:22:27 um apply those funds outside of just the
1:22:31 purchase of the bench but this language
1:22:33 sort of solidifies that there's greater
1:22:35 flexibility for the mayor to make
1:22:37 further adjustments to the program into
1:22:39 the future so it won't necessarily
1:22:42 require a full ordinance review um and
1:22:46 going back through Council um to do
1:22:48 changes if we get to a point where you
1:22:51 know our our costs are going up just
1:22:53 because of the nature of products
1:22:56 becoming more expensive while also
1:22:59 looking at something that is you know be
1:23:01 the most costeffective match our our
1:23:04 current city aesthetic and standards um
1:23:07 and allow for us to still have sort of
1:23:09 the plot um installed within the Vance
1:23:13 so to to reiterate all that great great
1:23:17 overviews of the um our current
1:23:21 um bench donation program the Fe is
1:23:25 $3,000 um as we look at costs now um and
1:23:31 you know concrete pad installation all
1:23:33 in um we are really seeing that fee need
1:23:37 to be closer to
1:23:38 $5,000 um we still want it to feel um
1:23:43 doable and not unattainable for someone
1:23:45 who's wanting to honor a family member
1:23:47 or donate for whatever reason um and
1:23:50 then moving forward we we realize the
1:23:53 changing world we're in and those costs
1:23:56 um as they go up really asking Council
1:23:59 to say hey if you agree that the goal is
1:24:02 to cover the cost of this program um we
1:24:05 just want the ability to work with the
1:24:07 mayor's office to increase that fee as
1:24:10 as we need to we're not trying to make a
1:24:12 profit on this program we're just trying
1:24:13 to cover costs and can provide um
1:24:19 intentional addition of benches and ways
1:24:22 for for loved ones and family members to
1:24:24 to recognize um
1:24:28 someone I'm going to pause there and see
1:24:31 if there are any
1:24:33 questions comments thought did you give
1:24:37 more Supply like were people like more
1:24:40 people wanted to get benches than you
1:24:41 had benches to do so like as we almost
1:24:45 you're basically you're going to end up
1:24:47 doubling by the time this actually gets
1:24:48 on the gry sticks right like just things
1:24:51 move right so like are we going to still
1:24:53 have enough people at that cost do we
1:24:55 think I I believe so I believe so I I
1:24:59 know as we've initiated this and when
1:25:01 you think about it you know we launched
1:25:04 this in
1:25:05 2019 uh we we did a lot of benches those
1:25:08 first years a global pandemic hit and
1:25:10 kind of caused us to Pivot a little bit
1:25:13 um even as we had to push pause um
1:25:17 afterwards we have we continue to have
1:25:19 inquiries we we have a lot of people
1:25:21 interested like hey you know please make
1:25:24 this ordinance change seathe we're we're
1:25:26 ready so yeah I I think interest will
1:25:30 continue to be out there we have
1:25:33 interest in the dog park um already for
1:25:36 a couple benches there
1:25:38 so people the sidewalk you should do
1:25:41 little
1:25:48 ston so am I hearing that you're going
1:25:50 to be adjusting the cost let's say two
1:25:52 years from now so the bench costing
1:25:54 $5,000 it's going to cost
1:25:56 $6,000 then you're you're you're still
1:25:59 the language is going to be where it's
1:26:01 still going to cover exactly yeah yeah B
1:26:05 city council we want you know we want
1:26:08 that ordinance to say the intention is
1:26:10 to cover the costs give us the
1:26:12 flexibility to to do that
1:26:24 this to council pardon do you need us to
1:26:27 propose bringing this to
1:26:29 council um I just do you agree with us
1:26:33 yeah I don't know when it takes
1:26:37 a I think I this down as a sort of an
1:26:40 action item um and I sent some language
1:26:42 over to to Chris if everyone feels
1:26:45 comfortable if there's other questions
1:26:47 or or any sort of um clarification that
1:26:50 might be needed in there but Ryan has a
1:26:53 question yeah and I and I just I thought
1:26:55 it would be nice to bring this back to
1:26:57 all of you those of you that were here
1:26:58 in 201819 while we launched this it came
1:27:01 out of parkboard discussion so just a
1:27:03 great opportunity to say hey well done
1:27:06 here's a program that's that's gotten
1:27:08 legs and you know do we all agree to
1:27:10 make this this slight little
1:27:12 tweak sorry Ryan ran go
1:27:18 ahead oh you're still
1:27:23 muted uh um do you have the number of
1:27:26 benches of those 13 by year and how many
1:27:30 of those more specifically were last
1:27:32 year or the year 2022 before the pause
1:27:36 um I do have we do have that data
1:27:41 whether I have it off the top of my head
1:27:42 or easily accessible is a different
1:27:44 question but to my memory I think we
1:27:47 probably installed about four benches in
1:27:50 the last um sort of 22 to the 23 before
1:27:55 we paused it um we had four four benches
1:27:58 that we
1:27:59 installed n and so nine prior yeah okay
1:28:04 yeah it's it's mostly just a a feedback
1:28:08 um I don't disagree with the proposed
1:28:10 ordinance language but um if the uh
1:28:15 generation of the program the root of
1:28:17 the program was
1:28:19 to uh provide the community with the
1:28:24 opportunity to honor someone honor
1:28:26 something honor some organization or
1:28:28 people with a bench so that people can
1:28:31 be finding rest while they're recreating
1:28:34 or they need to take a break um I don't
1:28:36 think increasing the cost twofold uh is
1:28:38 going to get you uh more benches I agree
1:28:41 it will cover the cost of the bench I'm
1:28:43 not disagreeing there but if the root of
1:28:46 the original why this project started in
1:28:48 the Genesis of it was to fulfill a
1:28:51 certain
1:28:53 um kindhearted wonderful Feelgood thing
1:28:57 uh doubling the cost I don't think is
1:28:59 going to do that but again I don't
1:29:01 disagree with the proposed ordinance I'm
1:29:02 just making a
1:29:04 note yeah it's it's a totally fair point
1:29:07 that it does it was one of the reasons
1:29:10 during the pause it took us sort of
1:29:12 longer to review it the Hope was that we
1:29:14 were going to pause for like three
1:29:15 months and then reopen it at the
1:29:16 beginning of the year and that didn't
1:29:18 happen um and and the reality is we we
1:29:21 want to make sure that these benches are
1:29:25 are still able to be sort of purchased
1:29:27 and and aren't eating into current
1:29:30 current funds and and be able to
1:29:31 actually still offer this program um and
1:29:35 just given the DraStic change in
1:29:38 landscape from 2019 to today 2024 I mean
1:29:43 it's not something that we want to have
1:29:45 to do is to raise the price almost
1:29:47 double um but there there probably
1:29:50 should have been some marginal changes
1:29:52 and increases sort of every year um for
1:29:56 this program and that also just didn't
1:29:58 happen um so I I agree with you Ryan I
1:30:02 will say we do have like maybe three to
1:30:05 four people that have inquired um we
1:30:08 haven't released that this is sort of
1:30:10 the new pricing and so that's part of
1:30:12 this process is making sure that we've
1:30:14 sort of reviewed all of this and that
1:30:16 it's approved by city council before we
1:30:17 make that that change um but that will
1:30:20 be coming and so that will sort of tell
1:30:22 us yeah
1:30:24 but yeah materials materials costs and
1:30:27 everything have changed since
1:30:29 2018 so we so basically we have a a
1:30:33 manufacturer that that we and you got
1:30:36 quote and based on the quote and the
1:30:38 assessment of how much it would be to
1:30:41 maintain it that's the number you're
1:30:43 coming correct okay right but that makes
1:30:46 more sense because like you said
1:30:48 3,000 in
1:30:50 2019 right corre so things yeah yeah the
1:30:54 change that's done and then Brenda I saw
1:30:56 I was just I'm thinking the opposite
1:30:58 side of this I think probably get more
1:31:01 people requesting to donate then you can
1:31:04 build these three or four spots to show
1:31:06 you have benches available and how can
1:31:08 you broaden this so that they can donate
1:31:10 to other things in memorandum or
1:31:13 whatever and I don't see the price
1:31:15 increase problem at all I think my what
1:31:17 I've saying is you don't have enough
1:31:19 placement to put benches and what else
1:31:21 besides benches can people
1:31:25 yeah it's a great question BR as we
1:31:27 launched this program we talked about
1:31:29 hey let's let's you know crawl before we
1:31:32 walk walk before we run let's get this
1:31:35 down with benches and who's to say um we
1:31:39 make you know picnic tables and other
1:31:42 amenities or site Furnishings an option
1:31:46 open other options so exactly that is
1:31:50 the that's where we're hoping to to take
1:31:54 that oh so to that point is there
1:31:56 anything you need to add to this
1:31:57 ordinance that could give you that
1:31:59 flexibility later without having to go
1:32:01 through a whole bunch of steps could you
1:32:03 add it I don't know if that's already in
1:32:04 there or not yeah no that's a great
1:32:06 Point um for this particular program it
1:32:09 is tied specifically to the to the bench
1:32:12 donation program and there's like
1:32:14 programmatic documentation that went
1:32:16 with that that still has to stay like
1:32:18 stating that this will go towards sort
1:32:19 of this bench that you get a plaque and
1:32:21 what sort of goes into it however there
1:32:24 was a another discussion this year with
1:32:27 city council um regarding donations and
1:32:30 financial policy actually for the
1:32:32 acceptance of donations um that does
1:32:36 allow some flexibility there so if there
1:32:38 were someone that came with a site
1:32:40 Furnishing that they would like to
1:32:42 donate or they would like to offer the
1:32:44 option of adding you know Stone papers
1:32:47 and and do a program like that there is
1:32:49 already language that would allow the
1:32:52 city to accept that type of Don
1:32:54 through a
1:32:56 process I think what we are also trying
1:32:59 to is um really mesh the interest of
1:33:04 donations with um effective management
1:33:08 of your public space right so we're
1:33:12 trying to identify those standard pieces
1:33:14 of equipment or standard look and feel
1:33:17 that's going to make it easier for us to
1:33:18 maintain and not necessarily look like
1:33:21 oh that's table is totally different
1:33:23 that table which is totally different
1:33:25 than that because that becomes really
1:33:27 really can become really really hard to
1:33:29 manage um um so so yes it's um it's a
1:33:36 great question Brenda and a great point
1:33:38 and um I think one we would love to sort
1:33:41 of expand this into other other
1:33:44 amenities this is not quite about the
1:33:46 ordinance but it was from the earlier
1:33:48 discussion around um sort of the
1:33:51 locations in your map um and I love the
1:33:54 idea about like where are the walking
1:33:56 trails that could use a bench and I
1:33:58 might even suggest like asking the
1:34:00 senior center so I know would like my
1:34:03 mother-in-law chooses her walks based on
1:34:06 where there are enough benches right so
1:34:09 could be interesting stakeholder group
1:34:14 yeah absolutely there are definitely
1:34:17 some more Trail sort of review that I
1:34:20 want to do sort of internally for for
1:34:22 where it loc could get at
1:34:26 it I love seeing the two benches close
1:34:28 to our office right there the Rainer
1:34:31 Trail in the community center right by
1:34:32 the lawn you know since we added those
1:34:35 it's just so cool to see how often
1:34:37 they're
1:34:38 used and then again properly placed
1:34:40 seating um makes a huge difference and
1:34:44 and something of people lingering and
1:34:46 not just going so great
1:34:51 program great
1:34:54 thank you everyone um I guess with
1:34:58 that if you all feel ready I'll pass it
1:35:02 press yeah so the request here is do we
1:35:05 have a motion to recommend moving
1:35:07 forward with the changes to to the
1:35:10 donation bench program for city council
1:35:12 to review and
1:35:15 adopt yes
1:35:19 motion second and David
1:35:22 second uh all those in favor raise your
1:35:27 hand 7 eight great all eight thank you
1:35:32 thanks all thank you
1:35:35 everyone okay then then we move on to
1:35:38 the next item the last item of regular
1:35:40 business which is the parks and
1:35:42 Community Services summer highlights by
1:35:46 Jeff yeah thank you everyone thank youti
1:35:50 looks like you're gonna drive I'm try to
1:35:53 okay I app appreciate that um for the
1:35:55 sake of time great discussions tonight
1:35:57 on all these items I've just shared with
1:35:59 you um some communication I had with
1:36:02 city council um always love the
1:36:04 opportunity to just give you an update
1:36:06 on activities but also um just give a
1:36:10 shout out to uh the work of this
1:36:12 department and and a really really
1:36:15 amazing um team that um we should all be
1:36:19 really really proud of um rather than
1:36:22 reciting I I shared with you in in the
1:36:25 memo really some some fun facts of of
1:36:29 participation but also some some really
1:36:31 compelling data um I'm gonna just not
1:36:34 read these word for word because of time
1:36:36 but um highlight a number of them that
1:36:38 are really Parks and Recreation program
1:36:41 related um for the purposes of council
1:36:44 um I included uh some other really key
1:36:47 parts of our department Human Services
1:36:49 as a reminder is in our parks and
1:36:51 Community Services Department uh
1:36:53 provides a a really cool opportunity to
1:36:56 to join our Recreation programs with our
1:36:58 Human Services programs and
1:37:00 professionals um this first slide is a
1:37:03 great example of that um we have a a
1:37:05 great Community event we do um chalk art
1:37:10 festival that's held at the community
1:37:12 center um we've leveraged that fun event
1:37:15 by having a human services fair at the
1:37:17 same time uh and it's been great to see
1:37:19 how those um um of events have have
1:37:24 really helped us support uh support one
1:37:26 another um I won't dive too far into
1:37:29 some of the Human Services work since
1:37:31 it's really overseen by the Human
1:37:32 Services Commission but um just I think
1:37:35 important for all of you to know as as
1:37:37 Park board members uh the diversity of
1:37:39 this department really um adds to um
1:37:43 what we're able to to to do and how
1:37:45 we're able to provide services to the
1:37:47 community um if you go to the next slide
1:37:52 um Arts
1:37:54 and art staff did a film festival um if
1:37:57 any of you were interested in film uh
1:37:59 this was really really cool and Regal
1:38:01 Cinemas partnered with us um um read the
1:38:05 notes uh we had three students um come
1:38:08 back and really collaborate on this uh
1:38:12 Film Festival um very very popular event
1:38:15 that um went away a little bit um like
1:38:18 many of our events for the pandemic but
1:38:21 came back with a
1:38:22 flourish um the next slide highlights
1:38:25 again an art piece but one that I we
1:38:27 love in parks and and you all played a
1:38:30 real role in if you remember where do we
1:38:32 locate Jacob how do we locate Jacob
1:38:35 Jacob's been a huge hit Jacob had his
1:38:37 first birthday on September 1st of this
1:38:39 year um amazing to think um
1:38:42 conservatively 250,000 people have come
1:38:45 to visit Jacob um many of those are
1:38:48 non-residents that have come to to enjoy
1:38:51 and experience the squa um we are very
1:38:54 intentional about having um Jacob on an
1:38:57 accessible Trail the reor trail and
1:38:59 close to downtown so so many of those
1:39:02 visitors then turn around and go into
1:39:04 Oldtown and enjoy a beverage or or a
1:39:07 meal and so um art uh properly placed in
1:39:11 Parks can really be a pretty cool
1:39:13 economic incubator and Jacob has
1:39:16 certainly proven that to be the
1:39:19 case next slide as we um uh launch into
1:39:23 some of our events um touching on this
1:39:25 one really really quick culture Fest is
1:39:28 an event we do to kick off the school
1:39:30 year East Side communities all around us
1:39:32 have a different welcoming week they
1:39:34 call event um it's been really cool to
1:39:36 see how this has grown uh we did this on
1:39:39 September 6 again the community center
1:39:41 lawn was alive with great music and
1:39:44 great food and uh Community coming
1:39:48 together in some some pretty cool ways
1:39:53 also on the lawn our concerts um
1:39:56 experienced another great summer um even
1:40:00 in spite of some kind of goofy Tuesday
1:40:03 weather I don't know if you guys notic
1:40:04 in summer sometimes a certain day of the
1:40:06 week sort of gets the Oddball weather
1:40:08 Tuesdays this year kind of got that the
1:40:11 the the odd weather and yet we still had
1:40:13 probably over 7500 people come
1:40:16 throughout the eight events to enjoy
1:40:18 great summer
1:40:20 sounds there at the community center
1:40:22 lawn um ironically also on the lawn wow
1:40:25 I do this but a lot of action on that on
1:40:28 that lawn uh July 4th um the the the
1:40:33 down home fourth has been a a tradition
1:40:35 here in isqu for many many years uh this
1:40:38 year represented a first and that we as
1:40:40 the parks department were asked to to
1:40:42 take the lead in in operating and
1:40:46 providing uh the Fourth of July event uh
1:40:49 led to some great work by the team uh we
1:40:52 we did a little bit of reinvention of of
1:40:55 the event um added a lot more fun and
1:40:59 and diversity of activities in the the
1:41:02 field of fund so post parade extended
1:41:05 the parade down Front Street a little
1:41:06 bit to come and the LA um I had the
1:41:10 opportunity with uh one of our city
1:41:11 council members council member Russell
1:41:13 Joe uh we co-c the the main stage and
1:41:17 some Minute to Win It um games and
1:41:19 activities but um I think from my
1:41:22 vantage point seeing 3,000 plus people
1:41:24 really just having a great time and and
1:41:26 a really fun day which um again hats off
1:41:29 to the to the
1:41:33 team uh day camps uh looking at some of
1:41:36 our programs you may recall uh some of
1:41:39 the conversations we had at the
1:41:40 beginning of the year about recognizing
1:41:43 that um though we can call um summer
1:41:47 daycamps filling up in 10 minutes um a
1:41:50 success and that isn't necessarily a
1:41:52 custom service experience that we wanted
1:41:55 and so we really very intentionally set
1:41:58 about ways to increase capacity within
1:42:00 our our camps and how we looked at doing
1:42:03 registration um and again just hats off
1:42:06 to the to the uh Recreation team uh we
1:42:09 went from a um roughly you know
1:42:14 2,300 uh Camp registrations in 2023 we
1:42:17 increased that um almost double 50%
1:42:21 increase to to
1:42:23 3,500 um Camp registrations throughout
1:42:26 our full spectrum of camps that's not
1:42:29 without a lot of hard work by
1:42:30 programming staff a lot of hiring and
1:42:33 training a part-time staff to to be our
1:42:37 um sort of Frontline um programmers if
1:42:41 you will um there really are a heart and
1:42:44 soul of those those camps and so just a
1:42:47 great work by the the recreation team
1:42:49 and uh the community was very supportive
1:42:52 of that effort to add capacity to camps
1:42:56 um a few quotes that came from our
1:42:58 evaluations I I included in our um in
1:43:03 the email summary
1:43:07 there next slide looking at oh Pickering
1:43:11 Barn yes um another one of our
1:43:14 facilities that we manage uh Farmers
1:43:17 Market continues to just hit it out of
1:43:18 the ballpark again we had record numbers
1:43:21 in 2023 only to have them broken in
1:43:25 20244 the fact that we're averaging over
1:43:27 4,000 visitors every single Saturday um
1:43:32 if you want to sort of get a taste of
1:43:34 what our department is um any given
1:43:37 Saturday go to the farmers market it's
1:43:39 our programming staff doing amazing work
1:43:42 the park maintenance team what they've
1:43:43 done to the grounds at Pickering Barn
1:43:46 such an inviting space um it's just a a
1:43:50 great um example of of what we do um on
1:43:54 an equity standpoint this is the first
1:43:56 year that we added both um EBT and snap
1:44:00 match those are State um um programs
1:44:04 that uh really align and encourage
1:44:06 access to healthy local food um those
1:44:10 programs have both been instituted and
1:44:13 had um huge participation both from
1:44:16 participants but also it requires our
1:44:18 vendors to be willing Partners um in
1:44:21 that so
1:44:24 close to 5,000 in fact well now this
1:44:28 next Saturday is our last Farmers Market
1:44:30 of the Season we're well over $5,000
1:44:34 and and funds redeemed through that
1:44:38 through that program so Pickering Barn
1:44:41 staff does great great work um also at
1:44:44 the barn as the photo suggests uh that
1:44:47 is a a space that we really wanted to be
1:44:50 intentional about um diversifying how
1:44:53 the barn is rented and it's been really
1:44:55 really cool to see just a variety of
1:44:58 rentals the types of rentals 93 bookings
1:45:01 um as of the time we did this till the
1:45:03 end of summer um we'll be well over a
1:45:06 100 bookings uh throughout the
1:45:09 throughout the calendar year at Turing
1:45:11 bar for all variety of events and
1:45:13 programs it really is an iconic an
1:45:16 iconic building for isqua and it should
1:45:19 be used by the public in in a wide
1:45:21 variety of of way
1:45:24 transitioning to one of our other
1:45:26 facilities the the bomes pool um much
1:45:29 like our camps again it could be a badge
1:45:31 of honor to say wow we're we know we
1:45:34 book some lessons in three minutes um
1:45:37 but again not the best customer service
1:45:40 experience that we want so um Zach and
1:45:44 the pool team did an amazing job also of
1:45:47 how do we add capacity uh to a a
1:45:49 burgeoning very popular swim lesson
1:45:52 program
1:45:53 um summer numbers um again U showed a
1:45:58 record 2023 of 900 plus registrations
1:46:01 for swim lessons we to 1,200 uh this
1:46:04 this summer so again speak to speaks to
1:46:07 some great work by uh our staff uh
1:46:10 that's well over 50 lifeguards and
1:46:13 part-time instructors that we hire um
1:46:17 Katie's familiar in the swim community
1:46:19 with many of those employees we hire um
1:46:22 um it's it's really really important
1:46:25 intentional work um in hiring and
1:46:27 training those lifeguards and and swim
1:46:29 instructors
1:46:30 and much like Camp staff and I think you
1:46:33 guys have heard me say this before we're
1:46:35 often a first employer to many teenagers
1:46:38 that's a program in and of itself and is
1:46:41 is launching and teaching kids to be a
1:46:43 great employee um and be responsible and
1:46:47 both the pool staff and the and the
1:46:50 community center staff just do a
1:46:52 fantastic job with that not to be
1:46:55 outdone on the on the park side of
1:46:57 things um some of you have hopefully
1:47:00 seen as you've gone around town our new
1:47:02 our new signage our new Trail signage
1:47:05 example here at the readio trail as well
1:47:07 as some of our Park signs that have
1:47:09 gotten updated great job by the park Ops
1:47:12 team instituting that um as we talked
1:47:16 about Park plan and as we've talked
1:47:17 about urban forestry what's the rate
1:47:19 with which we will be changing out signs
1:47:21 out will be really dependent on budget
1:47:23 availability but we hope um as through
1:47:27 the coming years we'll we'll see more
1:47:29 and more of these signs and the
1:47:31 standardization of of signage uh
1:47:33 throughout the throughout the
1:47:35 system another project that the teams
1:47:38 LED and done a great job with working
1:47:40 very closely with our Cemetery board but
1:47:42 um certainly a shout out to the parkops
1:47:44 team um a number of years ago pre
1:47:48 pandemic uh we took a really hard look
1:47:50 at the cemetery and the cemetery fumed
1:47:52 the fact that that cemetery is getting
1:47:54 really close to capacity and yet the
1:47:56 cemetery fund isn't as healthy as we
1:47:58 would want it to be to to be able to
1:48:00 sustain maintenance uh so we've really
1:48:03 started to look at creative ways to add
1:48:05 capacity within the existing footprint
1:48:07 of the cemetery this is a one example of
1:48:10 that where we created a a colian plaza
1:48:15 um and did a first installation here uh
1:48:18 there'll be room for expansion uh this
1:48:20 is in the lower Cemetery uh but as a
1:48:23 cemetery fund is really meant to
1:48:24 function as an Enterprise we'll wait for
1:48:27 these col area to get the
1:48:30 70% um capacity um sold um and then
1:48:34 we'll add some additional columber
1:48:38 capacity to that area so Rick still our
1:48:40 Park ops manager has done a great job of
1:48:43 working with the cemetery board on that
1:48:46 project also just overall some great
1:48:49 work done by Park Ops please take a
1:48:51 minute in the memo to see just some of
1:48:53 the fun um data when you really look at
1:48:55 the volume of work that our team does
1:48:59 well over 200 Park sh shelter
1:49:01 reservations those don't just happen we
1:49:03 have to um s of manage and and maintain
1:49:07 those um larger weekend Sports
1:49:10 tournaments that we're seeing happening
1:49:12 within our systems both lacrosse and
1:49:14 baseball and softball always great to
1:49:16 see um the amount of fence that was
1:49:20 done uh the Trail repair work that we've
1:49:24 been able to do with with some of our
1:49:25 Capital Trail repair program um great
1:49:29 work there we talked a little bit
1:49:31 earlier tonight about trees um 2,000
1:49:34 trees planted this summer over 800 trees
1:49:37 pruned uh throughout the system that's a
1:49:40 really really important work in terms of
1:49:42 not only looking at the canopy within
1:49:44 our our city but the health of the
1:49:46 canopy within our within our
1:49:50 city last couple slides here Park
1:49:53 planning related updates um excited to
1:49:55 say Hillside Park is under construction
1:49:58 well under construction um there's a
1:50:01 couple photos from the the site uh as
1:50:04 the new play area in the corner of the
1:50:07 the field is really starting to take
1:50:08 shap um a couple photos there of the the
1:50:12 new trail that we've cut in um along the
1:50:15 buffer area so this is uh really
1:50:17 removing that age-old conflict of
1:50:19 neighbors wanting to get access to the
1:50:21 park cutting through the culac of the
1:50:24 cemetery and through gravestones this
1:50:27 allows for a little more respectful um
1:50:30 access to Hillside Park um the field and
1:50:34 the Field improvements um the drainage
1:50:37 is all in we just us did the seating uh
1:50:40 the contractor did the seating late last
1:50:42 week uh we're now waiting for um like
1:50:45 we're talking about with with u benches
1:50:49 um supply of of playground equipment
1:50:51 waiting for that to to show up but when
1:50:54 all is said and done and grass is in
1:50:57 really excited for a a great
1:50:59 neighborhood party um as we um as we
1:51:02 reopen that Park um next
1:51:08 spring and then our other big Capital
1:51:11 project our plazas project The
1:51:14 Pedestrian Plaza and Senior Center Plaza
1:51:17 um little bit of a of a blip we're
1:51:19 hoping to be opening bids today we had a
1:51:22 a small administrative item we caught so
1:51:25 we're going to be opening bids we let
1:51:27 all of our contractors know we're going
1:51:28 to open bids this Friday um again
1:51:32 continues to be a lot of excitement
1:51:34 amongst the Contracting Community for
1:51:35 this project so very encouraged we'll
1:51:38 open bids on Friday um and then take
1:51:42 this for bid award to City Council on
1:51:44 October 7th um know Council Community
1:51:49 are pretty excited about this project
1:51:50 too um we'll look at be doing some type
1:51:53 of a ribbon cutting not a ribbon cutting
1:51:56 a groundbreaking got to do the
1:51:57 groundbreaking before the ribbon cutting
1:51:59 um but a ground breaking uh this fall uh
1:52:03 with an anticipated opening of this new
1:52:06 space late spring early summer next year
1:52:09 so a lot happening excited to get both
1:52:13 of those projects through permitting and
1:52:15 now looking um head long into into
1:52:19 construction of both of those so very
1:52:21 very busy summer
1:52:23 again an amazing amazing staff in parks
1:52:26 and Community Services I'm happy to
1:52:28 answer us any questions you might have
1:52:30 but um I'm just proud of a team that
1:52:33 that continually makes some some pretty
1:52:36 amazing investments into your uh into
1:52:38 your Park
1:52:46 system
1:52:48 next I heard very good feedback about
1:52:50 the new CIT program so oh yes you know
1:52:55 my kids age group is at Middle School
1:52:57 like CIT age group
1:52:59 so were big fans of not having to commit
1:53:02 to an entire summer but still letting
1:53:04 them have a couple weeks to do it so
1:53:06 that's great so CIT is our Council and
1:53:08 training program thank you Marlene
1:53:10 you're you're right so within our summer
1:53:12 day camps uh it's really a great
1:53:14 opportunity for those early teens a
1:53:17 pre-t group to get a taste of
1:53:19 responsibility and still have a camp
1:53:21 experience
1:53:23 but really sort of be on the other side
1:53:25 of the curtain and helping us deliver
1:53:28 deliver the program
1:53:30 so 38 I believe we had 38 cits
1:53:34 throughout the summer this year yeah
1:53:37 just an ADOT from me first of all yeah
1:53:41 six-year-old daughter went to six
1:53:42 different camps only one I just you said
1:53:46 that was the
1:53:49 pirate it's great to hear
1:53:53 the six-year-old it must have been
1:53:54 Kinder Camp yeah yeah could you only get
1:53:58 into one
1:54:08 Camp that's great thank you
1:54:12 both well I I have to say that um jaob
1:54:15 two trees that's that's just been
1:54:17 phenomenal I was out walking the dog and
1:54:19 my husband on Sunday and somebody an
1:54:23 older couple that was coming up as we
1:54:25 were we were coming down the RoR Trail
1:54:27 already from it and by kind of by the
1:54:30 community center and then there was a
1:54:32 couple that asked us oh where's this
1:54:34 Troll and how far is it and you know
1:54:37 because people don't you know really
1:54:39 know I'm like you will not be
1:54:41 disappointed it's not very far to do it
1:54:44 you know but it was I was surprised even
1:54:46 how proud of it was every time I go it
1:54:49 seems like there's always people knowing
1:54:51 about and one thing too that I really
1:54:53 appreciate is how clean the trail has
1:54:56 been kept because as we all know those
1:54:59 of us who've been here a while and not
1:55:01 always been a very clean Trail so um I
1:55:04 just think it's such a great he's just
1:55:07 been such a wonderful part of our
1:55:09 community you
1:55:11 know thanks thanks for that and you're
1:55:14 right what its location was very
1:55:16 intentional um and you're right not too
1:55:19 long ago 3 days 10 20
1:55:23 you know a dozen years ago that portion
1:55:25 of the raineer trail did not feel
1:55:27 comfortable and welcoming and it's been
1:55:29 really really cool to see that begin to
1:55:32 change and and I I think you know the
1:55:35 location of our future Dog Park public
1:55:38 art down there all of that really
1:55:39 creating that natural surveillance and
1:55:42 that positive the positive recreational
1:55:44 use corre really makes those that want
1:55:47 to do unsanctioned things uncomfortable
1:55:52 so I just um it just makes me feel proud
1:55:55 because he you are telling somebody to
1:55:57 your point Jeff of people visiting out
1:56:00 out of
1:56:01 town you're almost there get a j you
1:56:05 won't be
1:56:07 disappointed yeah it's just very very
1:56:08 positive it is that's
1:56:13 great well thank you
1:56:16 all you
1:56:18 Chris so next item is the reports uh
1:56:21 Jeff do you have a director's
1:56:23 report a a really really quick one
1:56:26 looking at time um you maybe have heard
1:56:29 um and it was mentioned a little bit
1:56:31 earlier we're in the midst of budget
1:56:33 process that would be our 2025 2026 uh
1:56:37 next planal budget um interim Finance
1:56:41 director Andrew Snider last Monday night
1:56:43 did it gave up I think a really good
1:56:45 overview of some of the strains and the
1:56:47 issues that we're uh needing to come to
1:56:50 grips with she gave that update to the
1:56:51 city council
1:56:53 gives good context there's a variety of
1:56:55 reasons why we are in a really hard
1:56:58 operating budget Point um as departments
1:57:02 were being asked to look at reductions
1:57:04 looking at creative ways to um either
1:57:08 reduce or modify how we provide some
1:57:10 services in some cases having to look at
1:57:13 what some staff reductions uh would
1:57:15 really look like so hard hard time um I
1:57:19 don't have details um the plan is for
1:57:23 the mayor to present um her proposed
1:57:25 budget to city council the details of it
1:57:28 probably late October um so probably at
1:57:32 our October Park board meeting we'll be
1:57:33 able to share with you what it might
1:57:35 mean what that looks like for um our
1:57:38 department um know that much like summer
1:57:41 we remain committed to whatever the
1:57:44 investment level is uh for investments
1:57:47 into our our Parks programs and and park
1:57:51 space es uh we will be really good
1:57:54 stewards of those uh Investments so more
1:57:57 to come and
1:58:00 budget awesome thank you okay and then
1:58:03 uh for my report we're going to pass on
1:58:05 that and we're gonna move into other
1:58:07 business we have one I think fairly
1:58:09 quick item to discuss uh Nicholas Lee
1:58:14 has respectfully resigned he's got a new
1:58:17 position now I can't remember where it
1:58:19 is but maybe with like city of Ron and
1:58:22 so he's he's gota shift his H focus
1:58:26 elsewhere and Jeff and HTI if you can
1:58:29 let us all know what that means for us
1:58:32 uh as a board yeah so um yes Nicholas
1:58:36 Lee has has moved to some other work
1:58:40 though is excited to re-engage with the
1:58:42 board as needed um which is always a
1:58:45 great thing to hear from our former
1:58:46 members um so that position actually
1:58:49 right now is going to just stay vacant
1:58:51 um because we have enough really great
1:58:53 engagement from all of our members
1:58:55 including our alternate members so thank
1:58:57 you um so I had a conversation with the
1:58:59 city clerk's office and they felt like
1:59:01 it made sense to sort of keep that
1:59:02 position open through the remainder of
1:59:05 um this cycle and then when they do Rec
1:59:08 the next recruitment cycle that position
1:59:10 will be up for a a recruitment to then
1:59:12 fill um so uh and if I'm not mistaken
1:59:16 the term was to expire next year so it
1:59:19 would it would be presented as a
1:59:23 so the recruitment the next recruitment
1:59:25 is February is when all the board
1:59:28 recruitments are and so it would be just
1:59:30 recruiting for a a
1:59:33 full-term position
1:59:36 but yeah it might be filling for one
1:59:39 year and then a full year but I'll have
1:59:43 to look C CL
1:59:46 rules yeah I'll wait to see what they
1:59:48 think but the position will stay vacon
1:59:51 um until we do that next recruitment
1:59:52 cycle um but if you have friends that
1:59:55 are interested in joining a for let them
1:59:57 know that that recruitment CLE will be
1:59:58 starting in February and um for any of
2:00:01 our alternates that are interested in
2:00:03 that full-time position um we'll we'll
2:00:05 have a conversation Clos to that
2:00:07 recruitment CLE um and then I have one
2:00:09 little small update for our youth
2:00:11 members that usually come and represent
2:00:14 um for the park board there is a lot of
2:00:17 interest from the rest of the board to
2:00:18 sort of offer that opportunity to more
2:00:21 than just the two that have been coming
2:00:22 to our meetings for the last two years
2:00:24 um and so I'm actually going to their
2:00:26 November meeting I believe to talk to
2:00:29 the group about this opportunity um so
2:00:32 potentially at our meeting but more
2:00:34 likely at our January meeting we will
2:00:36 have um some new youth Advisory board
2:00:38 members joining us at for Park
2:00:44 Board okay um anyone else have any other
2:00:48 business they'd like to discuss
2:00:54 I'm seeing no around the
2:00:57 room okay then with that look at that
2:01:00 902 um I will adjourn the meeting the
2:01:03 meeting is adjourned thank you all thank
2:01:10 Ryan thank you

Attendance

Council / Members (10)
Chris Kovac, Chair (Virtual)
Marlene Waxse
Katie Bell
David Liu
Ryan Olson (Virtual)
Brenda Spears
Paul Adair, Alternate, Acting as Regular
Member
Martha Ginthner, Alternate, Acting as
Regular Member
Staff (4)
Jeff Watling, Director
Hasanthi Hoglund, Department Operations Specialist
Dan Hintz, Urban Forest Supervisor
Chris Peiffer, PlanIt Geo Consultant
Excused
Andrew Eliquen
Tim Motley
Mari Stevens

Recommendations & actions (6)

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  • a) Minutes of August 26, 2024 There being no corrections, the minutes were approved as presented.
  • Then Urban Forest Supervisor, Dan Hintz, and PlanIt Geo Consultant, Chris Peiffer reviewed the plan progress to date and led the board through recommended action and next steps.
  • Nothing is binding. • Questions on the recommended number of arborists for the city?
  • Following discussion and questions, Chair Kovac motioned to move forward the draft Urban Forest Management Plan for City Council Adoption given clarification based on this conversation.
  • Donation Bench Program Update, (D,A) Presented by: Hasanthi Hoglund, Department Operations Specialist Department Operations Specialist, Hasanthi Hoglund led the board through some recommended updates to the Bench…
  • Following discussion and questions, Brenda Spears motioned to recommend moving forward the changes to the Donation Bench Program for City Council to review and adopt.