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Thursday, October 2, 2014

6:30 PM · 31m 42s · Council Chambers, 135 East Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update AB 8796 6/19
Section
Topic
1. CALL TO ORDER
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Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
Economic Vitality Element and Cultural Element: On August 14, PPC had their first review of the Economic Vitality Element, presented by Jen Davis-Hayes, Economic Development Manager. There was a good
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Meeting Minutes from September 25, 2014 deferred to the October 23rd meeting
3. AGENDA ITEMS
3a
Introduction for Planning Policy Meeting Presentation No presentation - Description of tonight's presentation
packet pp.4–5
Staff report:
Economic Vitality Element and Cultural Element: On August 14, PPC had their first review of the Economic Vitality Element, presented by Jen Davis-Hayes, Economic Development Manager. There was a good
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Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update: Economic Vitality Element
Trish Heinonen, Planning Manager · packet pp.6–9
Topics: Land UseEconomic Development
Staff report:
Exhibit A – Updated DRAFT of the Economic Vitality Element Summary: This is an updated DRAFT of the Economic Vitality Element with PPC’s comments and suggestions added. There are some data needed, highlighted in yellow, that should be included for the th public hearing on November 13 .
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Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update: Cultural Element
Trish Heinonen, Planning Manager · packet pp.10–14
Topics: Land UseArts & Culture
Staff report:
Exhibit B – Updated DRAFT of the Cultural Element Summary: This element was first adopted in 1999 and last updated in 2000. This is an updated DRAFT of the Cultural Element with PPC’s comments and suggestions added from their August 14, 2014 meeting. In addition, the “Discussion” sections have been added and the “Historic Resource Protection” Goal G was moved up to be Goal B, as requested by PPC, which required renumbering of the other goal sections.
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Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update: Sustainability Indicators Appendix
David Fujimoto, Director Office of Sustainability Megan Curtis-Murphy, Resource Conservation Coordinator · packet pp.15–33
Topics: Land UseClimate
Staff report:
The Community Sustainability Indicators provide an update on measuring the community’s progress toward long-term sustainability goals. The Sustainable City Report Updates provide a more detailed look at several of the 26 indicators established by the Sustainability Sounding Board in 2009. These reports can be found on Issaquah’s Office of Sustainability website The Community Sustainability Indicators are grouped into eight primary Sustainability Themes:  Basic Needs  Business Climate  Education  Community Awareness and Stewardship  Green, Compact, Mixed-Use Development  Natural Areas & Open Space  Transportation - Mobility  Waste/Resource Use The indicators are updated every one to two years though data sets vary depending upon reporting cycles for agencies or organizations which collect, validate and report underlying data. In some cases, data reporting methodologies have…
0:15 we just met last week so you lucky you
0:17 get to miss that stuff
0:19 I good evening and welcome to the
0:22 October 2nd meeting of the planning
0:24 policy commission uh we're going to foro
0:27 the minutes from the last meeting and
0:30 we're gonna get right into the agenda
0:33 items and tonight we're going to uh in
0:38 our continuing Saga of looking at the
0:40 comp plan we're going to review the um
0:44 economic Vitality element and the
0:46 cultural element we've already done it
0:49 we've gone through and made our
0:51 Corrections and I'm sure you've reread
0:54 everything does anybody have any
0:57 questions comments additions uh yeah
0:59 just just have one comment on the E
1:02 economic Vitality element at Gold D and
1:07 um my version currently reads isqua is a
1:10 vibrant Safe Community where people
1:11 choose to live um which is kind of a
1:14 static uh goal I'd propose that it be
1:17 changed to maintain and enhance isqua's
1:20 reputation as a vibrant Safe Community
1:21 where people choose to
1:23 live does that work for everyone yeah so
1:27 could you read it one more time Justin
1:28 please maintain
1:30 uh maintain and enhance isqua's
1:33 reputation as a vibrant safe etc
1:38 etc anything
1:43 else
1:44 nice I have a um question on uh
1:48 workforce and development if we go back
1:51 to the August
1:52 14 uh minutes uh Joan brought up uh
1:56 should we separate or talk differently
1:59 about work Workforce Development and
2:02 housing and they mentioned that
2:05 the uh other committee that this comes
2:08 through uh also discussed that and they
2:12 were going to get back to us with
2:14 whether or
2:15 not Workforce Development and housing
2:18 should be in one goal and which goal was
2:22 that Susan what's the page number on
2:25 page
2:27 eight we have economic Vitality goal C
2:32 uh oh I'm on a different goal C okay I
2:35 got different numbers than you do see
2:38 see see okay and there was just a
2:41 question back in August about
2:46 um how housing and Workforce Development
2:50 maybe should be separate right and I can
2:52 go online to do the track changes to see
2:56 what um the Jen from Economic
2:58 Development put in to see what what's
2:59 different than
3:05 this oh it's blurry I love
3:16 that
3:18 no are you in the sustainability
3:22 section I'm
3:25 inity
3:28 okay Oh wrong one wrong one this
3:33 one no I broke
3:46 it so goal
3:57 C this does not have track changes in
4:09 it I bet this is open on my computer
4:12 back in the
4:13 office ever do that okay this is how it
4:17 changed um we moved out or um from our
4:21 discussion we moved out the first
4:24 piece and we put education and
4:27 housing more together in the goal
4:31 but it looks like it didn't change the
4:33 policies
4:35 much was there something that you wanted
4:37 to add or change to the policies based
4:40 on the goal no I just didn't see
4:46 any changes I mean we didn't hear back
4:49 about what the other
4:52 committee said about it oh okay I this
4:56 must have been um that they were fine
4:59 with putting them together in the goal
5:02 but it looks like it didn't change any
5:04 any of the ways that the policies were
5:07 formatted the question wasn't they
5:09 should be together if I read the August
5:12 14th minutes correctly and maybe I
5:15 misinterpreting the minutes it was that
5:19 they shouldn't be together Workforce
5:22 Development and
5:24 housing there's a question whether
5:28 housing
5:33 there's a question I interpreted that
5:35 and like I said maybe I'm looking at it
5:37 wrong that it should be on its own
5:40 rather than grouped in and I don't know
5:42 what Joan meant by that that that St two
5:45 months I
5:48 know and so you're thinking Susan that
5:52 Workforce Development might be a goal
5:54 and Workforce housing might be a
5:58 goal
6:02 no oh
6:04 okay that I guess maybe with in it to
6:09 separate them out to dress them oh under
6:12 one umbrella but the policies would call
6:14 them out differently yeah that's what I
6:16 thought
6:17 but does that I don't know it was a here
6:22 said Davis Hayes was going to go back to
6:27 EVC and get their
6:30 input and okay we I guess we never this
6:33 is what her she wrote to came back yeah
6:36 this is what she came back with this
6:38 these are her edits based on what you
6:39 said and what she researched with her
6:42 group but I I don't have anything more
6:44 than
6:46 this
6:48 okay is it should I follow up with her
6:52 on I don't know I think if we're happy
6:56 with how that came out okay are we happy
7:00 I'm
7:03 happy the happiness monitor
7:07 okay that's good good reading though
7:10 Susan I was just happy that there was a
7:12 lot of that she did a lot of editing I
7:14 thought that was good any others while
7:16 I'm here with the track
7:19 changes
7:23 no are we ready to jump into
7:26 sustainability I think indicators well
7:28 um introduce David and uh have him and
7:33 Megan I have to say this is stuff is
7:36 really exciting I helped with the
7:38 sounding board when we first were
7:39 creating them out of nothing and it was
7:42 just it was a fabulous process I thought
7:44 so I'm really happy to have you guys
7:45 here tonight to finally get this
7:47 wonderful information into the comp plan
7:50 you want so I'll let you queue up
7:52 whatever it is that you guys wanted to
7:53 queue up but this is dve Fujimoto and
7:57 Megan yes and um she's very new but very
8:01 wonderful already and we're happy to
8:03 have you both here tonight thank you
8:05 very
8:12 much I do want to point out that David
8:14 is that director of The Office of
8:17 sustainability so his the oh did I get
8:20 it wrong on the agenda it's in the
8:22 agenda but I just want to make sure
8:24 everybody knew he was the director oh
8:26 well there you go to our studio audience
8:28 yes
8:34 all
8:35 right uh you guys can hear me thank you
8:38 very much Joan uh David Fujimoto
8:40 director of The Office of sustainability
8:42 again I'm joined with Megan Curtis
8:44 Murphy as sustainability coordinator and
8:47 uh we're going to tag team a little bit
8:48 um and I just wanted to give you a
8:50 little bit of an introduction and some
8:51 background as Trish mentioned uh we had
8:54 done some work on the sustainability
8:56 indicators with a group called The
8:57 sustainability sounding board many years
8:59 ago and it's uh been a it was a great
9:03 process and it's been building from that
9:06 uh Point ever since so it's great to
9:08 formalize some of these pieces within
9:09 the comprehensive plan as
9:11 well uh as I mentioned um it's kind of
9:14 started all back in 2008 with um some
9:16 work by mayor uh Ava fringer at the
9:19 point at that point in time uh she asked
9:21 us to work with a pretty broad
9:23 cross-section of folks from the
9:25 community um and it included uh several
9:28 folks from the business commun Community
9:30 um uh there were a number of uh just
9:32 kind of community residents uh there
9:34 were folks from The Parks Board Human
9:36 Services Commission a Cascade land
9:39 conserv um there were some local
9:42 developers uh the isqua Alps Trails Club
9:44 so kind of trying to incorporate a mix
9:46 of different folks U kind of
9:48 environmental social and economic into
9:50 the equation as we were taking a look at
9:52 this and really had a couple of
9:54 different purposes one was to help us to
9:56 identify and Define a long-term vision
9:58 of sustainability there are a number of
10:00 pieces that kind of live throughout
10:01 places like the comprehensive plan and
10:04 the city's own vision statement um but
10:06 it kind of uh wasn't all kind of
10:08 contained in a long-term one long-term
10:10 kind of a vision so they were kind of
10:12 helping us to flush that out a little
10:13 bit and then uh looking at that uh
10:16 helping us to understand uh what is what
10:18 are the ways in which we can um measure
10:20 and kind of track our long-term uh
10:23 perspective so kind of this framework uh
10:25 we came up with was thinking about big
10:28 uh long-term assist sustainability
10:29 vision and principles uh developing
10:32 eight sustainability themes out of that
10:34 and then the sustainability indicators
10:36 themselves there's 26 of
10:40 those and here I'm not going to read
10:43 this but this is um the vision and
10:45 principles and these are the pieces that
10:46 came out of the report that that
10:49 included the sounding board of the
10:51 collection of those folks was it report
10:54 called measuring matters you may have
10:55 seen this before I'm not sure um but it
10:58 talked about kind of this long-term uh
11:00 vision and principles uh looking at
11:02 things like future Generations similar
11:04 to uh the definition of sustainability
11:06 that lives in the comprehensive plan
11:08 talks a lot about livability talks about
11:10 natural resources environment Citizen
11:12 and the economy um kind of the concept
11:15 that we have to connect and and look at
11:17 these things as an interrelated system
11:20 um and then also looking at some of
11:21 these values that help to kind of guide
11:23 some of our thinking that
11:25 direction and as I mentioned there were
11:27 um these basic uh or excuse me the
11:29 sustainability themes that the group
11:31 came up with basic needs education
11:34 Mobility business climate uh water or
11:37 waste resource use uh natural Open
11:39 Spaces Community Ste stewardship and
11:42 awareness the idea that if you have
11:44 active folks in your community that's a
11:45 Hallmark for a sustainable community and
11:48 then also because development is a big
11:49 part of what we have in isqua that's
11:51 also an important element to
11:54 consider um so this first one is basic
11:57 needs and I'm G to Megan's been doing a
11:59 lot of the work and updating the data
12:00 sets that live behind all these 26
12:02 indicators and that's a large body of
12:04 work and so wanted to turn it over to
12:06 Megan she's going to take you through
12:07 some highlights from
12:12 these thank you yes so as David
12:14 mentioned we have the eight themes and
12:17 then um 26 indicators within that and um
12:21 I'm going to go through a couple from
12:22 each one uh not all 26 however you have
12:25 it in the draft report in the packet
12:26 there um so you have information on all
12:28 of them
12:29 so for basic needs um each of the themes
12:32 the sustainability sounding board also
12:34 came up with a um vision for them so for
12:38 basic needs it's that an isqua food and
12:40 shelter and Healthcare will be available
12:42 for all and the indicators here are
12:44 Community Health Community safety Food
12:47 Bank use and housing affordability
12:50 Gap so the first one is Food Bank use
12:53 and this is the total number of
12:54 individuals and families served so in
12:57 2013 the isqua Food Bank served
13:01 18579 um individuals and families and
13:04 that's the highest number that they've
13:05 served in their 30-year history um and
13:08 that is about an 18% increase from 2012
13:13 um which is reflective of both uh
13:15 increase in need but also um more
13:17 Outreach that they were doing and then
13:19 the chart on the right is the breakdown
13:21 of food man clients um you can see the
13:24 majority is adults and children Age 3 to
13:27 18 and that bre Down's been about the
13:29 same over the last several years and
13:32 just a quick question on that indicator
13:34 is there any um statistics or data on
13:38 whether there's a gap between the client
13:40 served and the needs of the
13:42 community um I think we haven't done a
13:45 formal um CommunityWide needs assessment
13:48 on that as far as I'm aware um but
13:51 that's definitely as we're going through
13:53 this process we're looking to improve
13:55 the the indicators as we go so um
14:00 yes uh next is housing affordability Gap
14:03 and this is the difference between the
14:04 price of homes affordable to median
14:06 income households compared to the medium
14:09 price of homes on the market um and in
14:12 over the last 10 years the housing
14:14 affordability Gap has been higher than
14:16 that of King County um and in
14:18 2013 the Gap um the difference between
14:21 the average home price and isqua and the
14:23 price affordable to household earning
14:25 the King County median income increased
14:28 to 61,000 um from about 92,000 in
14:32 2012 and isaaz also adopted housing
14:36 affordability goals and um 177% of
14:39 housing units are affordable to moderate
14:41 income households is the goal and right
14:43 now we're at about
14:45 12.2% and the second goal 24% of housing
14:48 units are affordable to lowincome
14:50 households right now we're at about
14:54 4.8% the next theme is business climate
14:57 and this is um has a vision that our
14:59 economy will be healthy and diverse and
15:02 the indicators here are business
15:04 diversity job housing balance
15:06 participation in the Arts and revenue
15:08 based
15:09 diversity so the first uh business
15:12 diversity this is the number of
15:13 businesses in isqua by size employment
15:16 and type and over the last 13 years the
15:19 total number of businesses has more than
15:20 doubled uh we had about 830 in uh the
15:23 year 2000 and now we have just over
15:26 1,800 um however you can see here that
15:28 the breakdown uh between large medium
15:31 and small businesses has remained
15:33 relatively constant uh we also measure
15:36 it by sector and we have 64% of um isqua
15:40 employees are in the service sector this
15:42 is a fairly inclusive category of um
15:45 Business and Professional Services and
15:47 Health Services uh and then the second
15:49 largest category is retail with
15:53 14% the job housing balance is the ratio
15:57 of total jobs to total housing units in
15:59 isqua and um right now we are at about
16:03 1.52 jobs per home um and this is an
16:06 important indicator because it shows
16:08 that um whether or not we have enough
16:11 housing for those who work in isqua and
16:13 jobs for those living in isqua um the
16:16 target is about
16:17 1.2 or is
16:21 1.2 uh the next theme Community
16:23 awareness and stewardship uh the vision
16:26 here is that citizens will be actively
16:28 engaged in their Community uh so we
16:31 measure this uh by quality of life
16:34 volunteerism and voter turnout and
16:36 quality of life is actually one of the
16:38 indicators that we haven't had a formal
16:39 way to get data for so far um but we are
16:43 going to be doing a survey this year so
16:45 hopefully we'll be able to get some more
16:47 data on quality of life and be able to
16:49 measure that in years going
16:52 forward so volunteerism um this is the
16:55 total hours volunteered in city or
16:57 Community program
16:59 and this is important because um by
17:01 volunteering isqua residents improve the
17:03 quality of life in isqua for themselves
17:06 and others um which is fundamental to
17:08 building a sustainable community and in
17:11 2013 we exceeded about 42,000 hours uh
17:15 which is on par with previous years but
17:17 it's about two and a half times that of
17:20 2008 um and this is again Volunteers in
17:23 city or Community programs but not
17:25 necessarily representative of all um
17:27 volunteering in the
17:30 City the next theme is education uh so
17:34 in issaqua the vision is our schools
17:36 will be world class and we'll have
17:37 excellent ongoing education for adults
17:41 um and this is that the isqua student uh
17:44 school districts school districts really
17:46 strive to um continually improve the
17:49 students education and they have been
17:51 ranking um higher than both state and
17:54 National averages so the average SAT
17:57 score in isqua is 7 1921 right now um or
18:00 for last year and the state and national
18:03 average is closer to,
18:05 1500 um the extended graduation rate is
18:08 just under 95% which is about the same
18:10 as last year and this is the percentage
18:13 um of students who graduate within one
18:16 calendar year of their assigned
18:17 graduation
18:20 date next we have uh green Compact and
18:24 mixed use development um so this is that
18:26 we have a vision um that we can manage
18:28 our growth so we can live work and play
18:31 Closer To Home and the indicators here
18:33 are community and plan density green
18:36 buildings and population
18:40 density so for green buildings um isqua
18:44 really strives to increase the number of
18:46 lead and built green uh certified homes
18:48 in the city and right now we have um
18:51 just under 177% of the current housing
18:54 stock is built Green certified um Which
18:57 is higher than most of the surrounding
18:59 cities um with redond being next highest
19:02 at 10% we also have 12 lead certified
19:06 buildings as well as several more that
19:08 are currently going through the process
19:10 to be certified as well as severally um
19:13 several nationally recognized buildings
19:15 including the uh Maple Street Fire
19:18 Station uh the Swedish uh Medical Center
19:22 and then also zome which is the nation's
19:24 first zero net energy multif family
19:26 housing project
19:31 next we have population density so this
19:33 is the average number of residents per
19:35 acre in each sub area and this is really
19:38 a key measure in understanding how well
19:40 the city of issaqua managing growth
19:42 which is important for several
19:43 sustainability indicators um as well as
19:46 natural resources and
19:48 transportation um and since 2009 each um
19:51 sub area has been becoming more dense
19:53 and the highest um or the most dense sub
19:56 areas the isqua Highlands followed by
19:58 Greenwood Point and
20:02 Oldtown the next theme natural areas and
20:05 open space so our vision that Open
20:08 Spaces will be protected um and also
20:10 we'll have a regional food supply that
20:12 we can trust and keeps us healthy and so
20:15 the indicators are preserved natural
20:17 open space food grown locally stream
20:20 health and tree
20:23 canopy so isqua is well known for their
20:26 ease of access to parks and um open
20:28 areas so this is something that uh the
20:31 city highly values um and this so the
20:33 indicator is for the percentage of Acres
20:36 within the city um that are parks and
20:39 preserve natural open areas so in 2013
20:42 we had um just over 1,600 Acres of um of
20:47 open space and that's about 22% of the
20:49 total acreage in the city and that's up
20:52 from about 15% just 10 years
20:57 ago for tree canopy um in 2008 the city
21:01 adopted a Target to have 51% of the city
21:04 um have tree coverage and no net loss of
21:06 overall coverage and in 2012 um we did a
21:10 baseline aerial photography to assess
21:13 this and find out where the tree um the
21:16 trees were and where potential trees
21:17 could be planted and isqua has just
21:20 under 48% um covered in tree canopy
21:23 right now which is more than um the
21:25 surrounding communities but still a
21:26 little bit more to go till
21:31 Target uh next is transportation and
21:34 Mobility uh so this is the vision that
21:37 issaqua will lead the region by becoming
21:38 a pedestrian bike and Transit dominated
21:41 city um also our transportation will be
21:43 carbon free and use alternative fuels so
21:46 the indicators here are carbon footprint
21:48 which is really a cross cutting
21:50 indicator but fits in here uh
21:52 Transportation by type and
21:56 walkability so the carbon footprint is a
21:59 measure of the greenhouse gas pollution
22:01 associated with our activities and
22:04 carbon emissions have been linked with
22:06 adverse effects on um human natural
22:09 resources and in Washington is linked
22:11 with um in the future decreased snow
22:14 pack and also increased flooding so this
22:16 is an indicator that we've watched and
22:19 uh the city also uh adopted a goal to
22:21 reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 80%
22:24 by the year 2050 we're also working on
22:27 adop ing interim goals there as well so
22:30 this indicator is measured once every 5
22:32 years uh so from 2007 to 2012 we
22:36 decreased emissions by
22:39 1.9% and in that time there was um
22:42 economic downturn but we also increased
22:44 our population from about 25,000 to
22:47 about
22:48 31,000 and isqua is also one of the only
22:51 few cities in the city or in the in King
22:53 County with a formally adopted um
22:55 greenhouse gas Target
22:59 uh so Mobility um transportation this is
23:02 the percentage of total travel trips by
23:04 Transportation type and the source for
23:06 this data is the commute trip reduction
23:08 survey which is for businesses with over
23:11 100 employees so it's not um
23:13 representative of all residents in isqua
23:16 um but isqua has actually been
23:17 identified as the city that has the
23:19 highest um Van Pool mode rate so um just
23:24 at Costco one of every four trips are
23:27 ride sharing um so that's a place we've
23:29 really been able to thrive in this um
23:31 indicator however our Drive alone rate
23:34 is still just over 70% um so we're not
23:36 meeting our Target there to to reduce by
23:39 10% so there's still work to be
23:43 done uh the next indicator is waste um
23:46 resource use so in our vision is wasting
23:49 resources will become Unthinkable and
23:52 the indicators here are energy use
23:54 renewable energy use and waste
23:56 generation and water water
23:59 usage so energy use um isqua strives to
24:04 um decrease the amount of energy used
24:06 and over the last several years it's
24:08 remained relatively flat um however the
24:11 um residential energy per capita has
24:14 declined significantly since 2000 um and
24:17 this is thought to be representative of
24:19 the built green housing stock that we
24:21 have as well as newer efficiency
24:23 standards for
24:26 appliances and waste generation uh this
24:29 is the total waste generated the amount
24:31 landfilled and the amount diverted um so
24:35 isas strives to decrease the amount of
24:37 waste and increase um the amount that's
24:39 recycled and composted so in 2 uh since
24:44 2006 we've been decreasing um the total
24:47 amount of waste until last year um
24:49 there's a slight increase which may be
24:51 due to uh um the economy improving we
24:54 also work closely um with King County
24:57 and have adopted Ed their um Solid Waste
24:59 Management plan goals and they have a
25:01 diversion rate um of 55% by 2015 and
25:07 this is waste that would be diverted
25:08 from a landfill um and isqua's rate is
25:12 44% in
25:13 2013 and single families are um have a
25:17 higher diversion rate than the multif
25:19 family and
25:23 Commercial so now I'd be happy to open
25:25 up for questions about these
25:28 and we have the 14 that I went through
25:31 here as well as the 26 in the packet
25:33 that you can look at
25:42 later all your work and gotten all the
25:45 numbers put together so um it seems like
25:49 you're doing a good job overall in the
25:51 city so if you had one area that that
25:57 you thought the city was really should
25:59 think about and really spend some time
26:02 what would that one not that not all of
26:04 them aren't important what is the one
26:06 thing that maybe the city can really uh
26:10 take the lead in
26:12 and um I think we're really well known
26:15 for our natural areas in open space I
26:19 think we're we're doing well there so I
26:21 think we definitely want to keep that up
26:23 um I know that Transportation has come
26:26 up a lot in the city about um um too
26:28 much traffic so I think that that's
26:30 something that um we could work on more
26:33 um there's so many great ones to talk
26:35 about but I'll leave it at that well I
26:38 figured you'd come up with
26:40 Transportation um that's kind of a you
26:43 know with the new development that is
26:45 coming in it's going to even impact it
26:47 more so we've got to get a lot of people
26:50 out of cars and on the bikes I don't
26:53 know yes more van pools or van pools um
26:57 um or have enough jobs in the city so
27:00 that so that they can walk to work
27:02 exactly anything else Trish do you have
27:05 anything else to add no no there's no
27:08 questions on any of the indicators or
27:11 what any of them mean or any of
27:14 them they all you know you've done your
27:17 work and and uh it shows in the reports
27:20 that you know right and I guess another
27:22 thing to point out on our city web page
27:25 the actual sounding board report and the
27:28 um um I'm not sure exactly what they're
27:31 called but the how we measure things the
27:34 the reports of the years are in there
27:35 too so you can see the in-depth um
27:38 pictures and Analysis and there's some
27:40 really interesting things as we've moved
27:42 through that um Megan went through
27:44 pretty fast but they're actually on the
27:45 website if you wanted to ponder through
27:47 them um David had one in his hand um
27:50 that he showed sort of briefly but um
27:52 they're I think they're really
27:53 interesting all the measurements that
27:54 are out there and how well we're doing
27:56 that a lot of them because we're really
27:57 kind of a small City compared to our
27:59 neighbors in the region and we're we do
28:01 some really incredible things with as
28:03 small as we are I do have one
28:06 comment which uh you'll understand and
28:09 probably laugh when I tell you you uh
28:11 talked about all the volunteering that's
28:13 going on in the city and you called out
28:15 salmon days and the
28:19 rotary and where's
28:23 kowas I think it's um so we we track the
28:27 hours from from some of the um groups
28:31 but not we don't have hours from all of
28:33 them and most of that is just the city
28:34 hours but that a great great
28:37 note because I'm a CO so you need to get
28:41 us your hours then wonderful yeah so we
28:43 can track them you can start getting
28:45 hour well I I don't have any more
28:47 questions I I think thank you for
28:49 putting it together you certainly doing
28:51 a lot of work and uh David
28:55 congratulations um wherever we go from
28:58 here only up and better so if there's
29:01 nothing else right the next meeting then
29:03 we skip to you have two weeks off and
29:05 then we come back on the 23rd and it's
29:07 going to be transportation again so what
29:10 happens on uh just Transportation or
29:12 anything correct and hopefully we'll
29:14 have the maps by then and we'll have
29:15 concurrency policies then um because
29:18 they're working on concurrency across
29:19 the street um with the council committee
29:22 and so hopefully they're doing some
29:23 policies so that we can put some in our
29:25 plan at least in our draft for in two
29:28 weeks for you guys to review so do you
29:30 have the schedule for November are we
29:32 going to meet in on Thanksgiving no
29:35 actually we have Thanksgiving off which
29:36 is good we try to do that every year but
29:38 we think the public hearing um the first
29:41 public hearing for the whole plan um
29:43 such as it is would be the 13th I think
29:45 is that a Thursday and that will be
29:47 where so people it'll be here it'll be
29:49 in council chambers and then the next
29:51 public hearing won't be
29:53 till uh December and I have to look at
29:55 the schedule but we're kind of doing
29:57 some some space I think we're going to
29:58 try and have maybe even an open house
30:00 where we have this open for you know an
30:02 hour to people can come in and talk ask
30:05 you guys questions maybe we'll have some
30:07 um some little stands around so people
30:10 can see you know the new format what
30:12 what's different um maybe get some
30:15 public in maybe not but at least it'll
30:17 be open it'll be the 13th bring your
30:19 cookies yes we have cookies so that
30:21 might help the attendance and um and
30:24 then we'll get comments that night and
30:26 then um we'll go back and make any
30:27 changes that you all have and then uh
30:30 hopefully in December send it over to
30:31 the council with your recommendation is
30:34 the is the plan is the when does it have
30:36 to be approved it has to be approved by
30:38 the state it has to be sent to the state
30:39 by June of 2015 so we're hoping that the
30:42 council has all of next you know from
30:45 January to June to to mess around with
30:49 it okay well with that uh we're done yep
30:54 and so um I'm going to close the the
30:57 meeting at 7:01 great thank you another
31:01 fantastic group night thank you all we
31:04 didn't do anything all the work was done
31:06 by the I know they were
31:26 fabulous
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