Environmental Board · Wednesday, November 8, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of October 11, 2023

packet pp.3–5

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 10-11-23 Environmental Board Minutes Page [1] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. October 11, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Urban Forestry Management Plan and Program Update (I, D) [75 mins]

Dan Hintz, Urban Forest Supervisor · packet pp.7–64

Topics: Trees

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Parks and Community Services 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

ICAP 2024 Check In

Discussion · [20 mins] Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.65–74

Topics: Climate

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Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

2023 Board Report and Self Assessment

Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.75–82

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Dec 31, 2021

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5. REPORTS

2022 Greenhouse Gas Inventory Preliminary Results

packet pp.83–84

Topics: Climate

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Environmental Board 2023 Workplan

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0:09 ↗ recording

0:11 ↗ started all right welcome to the

0:14 ↗ November 8th meeting of the squad

0:17 ↗ environmental board I'm Jamie Finch and

0:18 ↗ I'll be your chair tonight um due to the

0:21 ↗ hybrid nature of this meeting we will

0:23 ↗ have some members attending in person

0:25 ↗ and others by computer or phone for all

0:27 ↗ meeting attendees uh that are going to

0:30 ↗ be remote please uh before you speak

0:32 ↗ state your name um and mute your

0:34 ↗ microphone when you are done speaking or

0:36 ↗ not speaking um the people that are in

0:39 ↗ person please as we always do flip your

0:42 ↗ cards on the side if you want to speak

0:44 ↗ uh those online raise your hand and

0:46 ↗ we'll get to you or if we don't just

0:49 ↗ speak up and but your way in um and then

0:54 ↗ on certain topics I don't know if that

0:55 ↗ we'll have any today probably not but

0:58 ↗ certain topics we may decide to have um

1:01 ↗ summarize our agreements at the end uh

1:04 ↗ of a topic I not if there's any disent

1:07 ↗ uh I think with that Stacey you could

1:09 ↗ take us through attendance great uh

1:12 ↗ Tommy

1:13 ↗ Anderson H Nancy Davidson is on her way

1:16 ↗ Jamie Finch here Taj Kandi here Joy

1:21 ↗ Lewis Here Ashwin Canan

1:24 ↗ here Ashman

1:27 ↗ maharan Don McWilliams

1:30 ↗ here Ann Nukem here Janet wall here

1:35 ↗ Dixie bear has an excused absence and

1:38 ↗ Alex Lee

1:39 ↗ tigner

1:42 ↗ here great thank you Stacy um next on

1:46 ↗ the agenda uh we have the minutes from

1:50 ↗ the October 11th meeting any comments on

1:53 ↗ those

1:57 ↗ minutes

1:58 ↗ Tomy you're over

2:02 ↗ here all right Tom any comments on the

2:04 ↗ October 11

2:06 ↗ minutes look good to be okay well then

2:10 ↗ the minutes are approved as presented um

2:14 ↗ next up we will have public comment uh

2:17 ↗ and I think we may have at least one

2:19 ↗ speaker so uh for everyone that is in

2:23 ↗ person um or sorry anyone that remote

2:25 ↗ please raise your virtual hand at this

2:27 ↗ point if you'd like to speak um and then

2:30 ↗ in general please uh keep com any

2:32 ↗ comments to about 5 minutes possible um

2:37 ↗ so yeah we'll open it now for public

2:42 ↗ comment he you yeah but I wanted to

2:46 ↗ request to be a comment after the tree

2:49 ↗ presentation because I haven't seen it

2:52 ↗ before is that possible yeah that's did

2:56 ↗ you unlock it yeah so we'll we'll come

2:58 ↗ back to you after the is it do you want

3:01 ↗ to go after the tree portion or there's

3:04 ↗ like

3:05 ↗ multiple

3:07 ↗ that whole tree portion

3:11 ↗ okay um and then Jonathan it looks like

3:13 ↗ you have your hand

3:16 ↗ raised yes I just wanted to make an

3:19 ↗ announcement that um on we will have our

3:21 ↗ next litter cleanup event on Saturday

3:24 ↗ December 2nd uh we will meet at the uh

3:29 ↗ post office Northwest Gilman Boulevard

3:31 ↗ at 9:00 a.m. and uh meet from there and

3:34 ↗ do a volunteer uh cleanup that's it

3:38 ↗ thank you thank you

3:40 ↗ Jonathan um do we have were there any

3:43 ↗ other comments that we should know Stacy

3:46 ↗ um just the written comments that Connie

3:48 ↗ submitted prior to the meeting today any

3:51 ↗ other comments all right well with that

3:54 ↗ we will not close public comment we will

3:56 ↗ come back to public comment um but we

3:58 ↗ will move into our agenda items the

4:00 ↗ first one being urban forestry

4:02 ↗ management plan and program program

4:08 ↗ update um well great um yes we actually

4:11 ↗ have three things on our agenda I'm

4:13 ↗ gonna hand it off to Chris and Andrea

4:15 ↗ with Planet goo here in just a minute to

4:17 ↗ introduce the city's first urban Forest

4:19 ↗ management plan um this will be coming

4:21 ↗ back to the environment board at least

4:22 ↗ once if not twice more in 2024 we are

4:26 ↗ just about and I think uh Chris will go

4:28 ↗ over the timeline here in a little bit

4:29 ↗ some of the slides we're just about two

4:31 ↗ months into this process which will be

4:32 ↗ you know 12 to 14 months is kind of what

4:34 ↗ we're looking at so really excited to

4:36 ↗ just kind of present the team with

4:38 ↗ Planet Geo um go over the scope of work

4:41 ↗ and some of the timeline and kind of

4:43 ↗ what we're hoping to see out of this

4:44 ↗ plan and then really have a discussion

4:46 ↗ any questions any suggestions you all

4:47 ↗ have you know we're still at the very

4:49 ↗ much the kind of content Gathering stage

4:51 ↗ here um there'll be a survey provided uh

4:53 ↗ for the general public but certainly

4:55 ↗ targeted towards the environmental board

4:56 ↗ as well that will likely be early in the

4:59 ↗ New Year too like I said definitely

5:00 ↗ there be more opportunities on that

5:01 ↗ topic to to weigh in as the

5:03 ↗ environmental board um we will cover the

5:06 ↗ Heritage tree program after the urban

5:08 ↗ Forest management plan um that'll be a

5:10 ↗ little bit shorter of a time frame and

5:11 ↗ ultimately going to the park board for

5:13 ↗ any uh modifications to that program and

5:16 ↗ then just have some general Urban Forest

5:17 ↗ program updates at the end so that's

5:19 ↗ kind of our plan here so uh Chris I

5:23 ↗ think I'm hand it off to you to get us

5:24 ↗ started here on our uh introduction to

5:26 ↗ our Urban Forest management

5:28 ↗ plan all right yeah sounds good thanks

5:30 ↗ Dan Chris Piper here with Planet Geo and

5:33 ↗ um we can move to the title slide for

5:35 ↗ our presentation and I just wanted to um

5:38 ↗ first start off with uh this overview of

5:41 ↗ the presentation this evening and on an

5:44 ↗ upcoming slide I'll um cover some of the

5:47 ↗ um the background and then get into our

5:51 ↗ uh General approach for the urban Forest

5:53 ↗ management plan and then what we'd like

5:55 ↗ to do is summarize by Milestone what

5:58 ↗ this project looks like over over the

5:59 ↗ next 12 to 14 months and some of those

6:02 ↗ key planning tasks that we want to

6:04 ↗ highlight and where there are

6:05 ↗ opportunities for engagement and then uh

6:08 ↗ we'll keep this really high level

6:09 ↗ because it's more important I think at

6:11 ↗ this stage to just provide the the

6:14 ↗ basics and then hear your questions and

6:17 ↗ uh feedback and uh get us moving along

6:19 ↗ as Dan said this is uh month two of the

6:22 ↗ project and so we're in the research and

6:24 ↗ Analysis phase and really looking uh at

6:27 ↗ um the next steps as part of this

6:29 ↗ planning project and so on the next

6:31 ↗ slide I'm just going to uh move forward

6:34 ↗ with uh the background so as you go to

6:38 ↗ the next slide here we'll just talk a

6:40 ↗ little bit about planet Geo and um just

6:42 ↗ going to keep this brief but before I

6:44 ↗ get into that I did want to mention that

6:46 ↗ we'll be here for the urban Forest

6:48 ↗ management plan questions but I will

6:50 ↗ need to hop off of the call so you know

6:53 ↗ after the Heritage tree program

6:55 ↗ discussion or the maintenance and

6:57 ↗ planting activities if there are

6:59 ↗ follow-up questions we'll touch base

7:01 ↗ with Dan to make sure that we address

7:03 ↗ those and get back to you so yeah um

7:06 ↗ just wanted to cover the basics again my

7:08 ↗ name is Chris Pier I'm director of urban

7:10 ↗ forestry consulting services and uh at

7:13 ↗ Planet Geo um we look to provide a full

7:15 ↗ Suite of services and software for

7:18 ↗ communities and organizations looking to

7:20 ↗ inventory assess and manage their trees

7:23 ↗ and we have the software for um making

7:26 ↗ some of those data driven decisions and

7:29 ↗ uh we provide the full Suite where we

7:31 ↗ have our Consulting Services team where

7:33 ↗ Andrea and I are a part of that section

7:37 ↗ and we develop these management and

7:38 ↗ master plans for communities and

7:41 ↗ organizations and so on the next slide

7:44 ↗ just going to talk a little bit more

7:45 ↗ about our project team from the

7:47 ↗ Consulting Services side of things and

7:50 ↗ uh for this project I'll mainly be the

7:52 ↗ project manager providing insights on

7:55 ↗ the approach to different types of

7:57 ↗ analyses uh interpreting findings from

8:00 ↗ consultations and our engagement

8:02 ↗ activities and then weighing in on the

8:04 ↗ strategies and doing final reviews of

8:07 ↗ deliverables and the final management

8:10 ↗ plan and not on this call this evening

8:12 ↗ we have Alex uh Hancock who is

8:15 ↗ overseeing our uh planning and the

8:17 ↗ development of strategies and really

8:19 ↗ looking at the strategies through uh

8:21 ↗ climate resiliency and examining

8:24 ↗ policies so that you have a strong

8:26 ↗ Foundation um to build this sustainable

8:29 ↗ Urban Forest management planning program

8:32 ↗ but then joining us this evening we have

8:34 ↗ Andrea starboard is uh an urban forestry

8:37 ↗ planner and local to the area and she's

8:40 ↗ really providing the key insights and

8:42 ↗ approaches to internal and external

8:45 ↗ engagement the research and the local

8:48 ↗ context and being available for the

8:50 ↗ in-person activities and presentations

8:54 ↗ this is a one-off case where um we

8:56 ↗ weren't able to attend in person but

8:58 ↗ glad that you have the virtual setting

9:00 ↗ for us to to present the on the um plan

9:03 ↗ this evening and then uh as you all know

9:06 ↗ Dan is the uh primary contact at the

9:08 ↗ city for directing your questions and

9:11 ↗ comments checking in on the status and

9:13 ↗ we'll be sure with our project updates

9:15 ↗ to keep Dan updated and to keep you all

9:18 ↗ informed and like I said if questions

9:20 ↗ come up after we're off of this meeting

9:22 ↗ uh we'll be circling back with Dan to

9:24 ↗ make sure we can address

9:26 ↗ those so then on the next slide we'll

9:28 ↗ get into to a bit more about the the

9:30 ↗ project itself and when I start off

9:33 ↗ conversations around an urban Forest

9:35 ↗ management plan i' like to start off

9:37 ↗ with this quote from James Clark in a

9:39 ↗ model of urban Forest

9:40 ↗ sustainability and so to paraphrase it

9:43 ↗ means that a sustainable Urban Forest

9:45 ↗ requires a shared commitment from the

9:47 ↗ city its partners and the residents and

9:51 ↗ that doing so you want to create a

9:53 ↗ shared vision and include engagement and

9:56 ↗ input and feedback from all Community me

9:58 ↗ members members during the planning

10:01 ↗ process and in developing an urban

10:04 ↗ Forest management plan we want to

10:06 ↗ recognize that trees are vital

10:08 ↗ infrastructur to the community and that

10:10 ↗ everybody has a part in the sustainable

10:12 ↗ management growth and expansion of the

10:15 ↗ urban

10:16 ↗ Forest on the next slide we talk a

10:19 ↗ little bit why it's important to

10:21 ↗ preserve and expand the urban Forest

10:24 ↗ many of you are familiar that trees

10:26 ↗ provide environmental social and

10:28 ↗ economic benefits but one of the

10:30 ↗ overarching goals of a management plan

10:33 ↗ is to maximize those uh benefits such as

10:36 ↗ the ones on the slide both sustainably

10:38 ↗ and equitably and so we look at

10:40 ↗ accomplishing them through analyzing

10:43 ↗ what you have looking at the challenges

10:45 ↗ and opportunities providing uh

10:48 ↗ strategies and best practices to

10:50 ↗ maintain these trees looking at risk

10:53 ↗ assessments and management uh the

10:55 ↗ planting strategies so that you can

10:57 ↗ sustain canopy cover over the long term

11:00 ↗ and other tasks that align with

11:02 ↗ objectives of a city's um scope of work

11:05 ↗ for a management plan

11:07 ↗ project but on the next slide we

11:09 ↗ recognize that trees not only provide

11:12 ↗ benefits but we also need to address the

11:14 ↗ current and predicted and also the

11:16 ↗ unknown challenges and risks facing

11:18 ↗ trees and communities and so we've done

11:21 ↗ uh several of these management plan

11:23 ↗ projects especially in uh the region of

11:26 ↗ Isa in the Northwest and what we identif

11:29 ↗ by is that these are common challenges

11:31 ↗ and risks facing trees and communities

11:33 ↗ but through our planning process we're

11:35 ↗ going to really hone in on those

11:37 ↗ specific ones and identify shared

11:40 ↗ concerns challenges and priorities

11:43 ↗ across internal and external

11:45 ↗ stakeholders so that we can provide and

11:47 ↗ develop those um datadriven and

11:50 ↗ actionable strategies in a management

11:52 ↗ plan to you know uh prevent to address

11:57 ↗ or to remediate uh such uh challenges

12:00 ↗ like the ones listed here on the slide

12:02 ↗ and you know we look at Pest and

12:04 ↗ diseases the effects of climate change

12:07 ↗ and how the changing climate can impact

12:09 ↗ the trees that survive and thrive we

12:12 ↗ look at uh more care that's required for

12:15 ↗ trees to survive after planting and a

12:17 ↗ number of other threats such as Wildfire

12:20 ↗ uh resourcing uh

12:22 ↗ limitations and uh conflicts for space

12:25 ↗ in you know an urbanized area you have

12:28 ↗ to to have other infrastructure and meet

12:30 ↗ other priorities and goals and we want

12:33 ↗ to look to see how we can balance these

12:35 ↗ priorities in a management

12:37 ↗ plan so on the next slide we talk about

12:40 ↗ how to do that in developing a

12:42 ↗ management plan so the city recognizes

12:46 ↗ that the purpose of a management plan is

12:48 ↗ to sustain the long-term benefits while

12:50 ↗ addressing challenges and so the RFP was

12:54 ↗ uh launched to develop isqua's first

12:56 ↗ ever Urban Forest management plan

12:59 ↗ to uh address the objectives in that RFP

13:03 ↗ we provide an approach that addresses

13:05 ↗ the fundamentals of adaptive management

13:08 ↗ so by applying the fundamentals of

13:10 ↗ adaptive management we're ensuring that

13:12 ↗ the final plan is a living and

13:14 ↗ actionable plan so our planning steps

13:17 ↗ and processes are listed on the right

13:19 ↗ there where it's an IT iterative process

13:22 ↗ each steps informs the next and IT

13:24 ↗ addresses those fundamental questions on

13:26 ↗ the left what do we have so what are

13:28 ↗ your Baseline conditions the state of

13:30 ↗ the urban Forest what do we want what

13:33 ↗ what are we hearing as shared concerns

13:35 ↗ and priorities how do we get there what

13:38 ↗ are the what's the road map what are the

13:40 ↗ costs what's the schedules priorities

13:43 ↗ who are the partners involved what what

13:45 ↗ roles do they play What policies and

13:47 ↗ best practices need to be implemented

13:50 ↗ and then how are we doing what are we

13:52 ↗ measuring and monitoring so that we're

13:54 ↗ adapting in an everchanging environment

13:57 ↗ looking at the strategies that that are

13:59 ↗ working well now but as resources and

14:01 ↗ the urban Forest changes how do you

14:03 ↗ continually Monitor and make this a

14:06 ↗ living management plan and so um on the

14:09 ↗ next slide I talk a little bit more

14:11 ↗ about the specific scope of work for

14:14 ↗ isqua's management plan and so the scope

14:17 ↗ of work was organized into these uh five

14:20 ↗ primary tasks beginning with project

14:22 ↗ management which is carried on

14:24 ↗ throughout the entire 12 to 14 months

14:27 ↗ and we end with the plan itself

14:30 ↗ presentations and final delivery

14:32 ↗ training the table on the right is not

14:35 ↗ intended to be read but it's just to

14:37 ↗ illustrate there are many steps in this

14:39 ↗ process but you know each task has its

14:42 ↗ own subtasks or steps and we look to go

14:45 ↗ through this process in a continuous

14:47 ↗ feedback loop so as we draft

14:49 ↗ deliverables sharing with the project

14:52 ↗ team having an opportunity to review

14:54 ↗ discussing with boards such as this one

14:57 ↗ revising as needed and moving on to the

14:59 ↗ next step so that way we're working

15:02 ↗ together for this end product and a

15:03 ↗ successful

15:05 ↗ plan and so that's really just a high

15:08 ↗ level overview and now I just want to

15:10 ↗ talk uh at a high level on the timeline

15:12 ↗ and

15:13 ↗ Milestones so when we look at it uh when

15:16 ↗ we simplify it into these Milestones by

15:20 ↗ quarter here in 2023 and

15:22 ↗ 20124 we see that those five tasks and

15:26 ↗ the series of subtasks or steps are

15:28 ↗ detailed um by these milestones and

15:31 ↗ they're also listed in this living work

15:33 ↗ plan that we're drafting as a project

15:35 ↗ management

15:37 ↗ tool so uh in the bottom left we have a

15:40 ↗ key for what these Milestones entail

15:42 ↗ what type of Milestone they are and so

15:45 ↗ the yellow or the first one in the in

15:47 ↗ the key at the bottom is project

15:49 ↗ management followed by assessments

15:52 ↗ engagement whether it be internal or

15:54 ↗ external and then planning tasks where

15:57 ↗ we're applying those other items into

16:00 ↗ developing strategies and the plan

16:03 ↗ itself so when we uh look at 2023 for

16:06 ↗ the remainder here we'll be completing

16:08 ↗ our analyses of tree data internal

16:11 ↗ stakeholder surveys and

16:13 ↗ consultations uh the external public

16:15 ↗ engagement plan and then presentations

16:18 ↗ such as the one we're holding this

16:20 ↗ evening and then we'll be uh beginning

16:22 ↗ to apply our findings to draft uh

16:25 ↗ strategies because you know really

16:27 ↗ that's the heart of the plan is how

16:29 ↗ we're going to accomplish the vision and

16:31 ↗ goals and so we want to draft these

16:33 ↗ early with input and with data that we

16:36 ↗ um gather and then share this for review

16:39 ↗ and refinement as we work through the

16:41 ↗ plan itself so then when we get into

16:44 ↗ 2024 you know just at a high level we'll

16:46 ↗ begin our benchmarking of existing

16:49 ↗ conditions we'll be completing the rest

16:51 ↗ of our tree analyses looking at the

16:54 ↗ bottom up uh with inventory related data

16:56 ↗ that's available and then the the top-

16:58 ↗ down approach looking at tree canopy

17:00 ↗ cover across the city and identifying

17:03 ↗ Trends opportunities and going back to

17:06 ↗ those risks or challenges facing the

17:08 ↗ urban Forest so then we'll also continue

17:11 ↗ with our external engagement again those

17:14 ↗ are the milestones in the green color

17:16 ↗ and then uh in the first quarter of 2024

17:20 ↗ we'll have an outline of the draft for

17:22 ↗ input and review and also the first

17:24 ↗ draft of the plan now of course there's

17:27 ↗ more engagement that will be done in

17:29 ↗ quarter two of 2024 so that's where we

17:32 ↗ look to refine our strategies have uh

17:35 ↗ stakeholders weigh in on the goals um

17:38 ↗ the drafts that we're putting together

17:40 ↗ and then uh finalize it through a

17:42 ↗ strategy workshop and a second draft

17:44 ↗ with a public comment period so that

17:47 ↗ will take us to quarter three and we'll

17:49 ↗ be looking at you know the July August

17:52 ↗ time frame where we'll be doing

17:54 ↗ additional commission and board meetings

17:56 ↗ about the drafts and what we're hearing

17:59 ↗ from stakeholders and then finalizing

18:02 ↗ with input our key performance

18:04 ↗ indicators or our our kpis which will

18:06 ↗ lead to the final Urban Forest

18:08 ↗ management plan so when you uh

18:11 ↗ categorize it into those Milestones it

18:14 ↗ it simplifies the process but it's going

18:16 ↗ to be an extensive period of research

18:18 ↗ and Analysis examining tree data Trends

18:22 ↗ Gathering input and feedback from

18:25 ↗ internal stakeholders and from the

18:27 ↗ community and then applying that to our

18:30 ↗ benchmarking and our comprehensive Urban

18:32 ↗ Forest auditing exercises which then

18:35 ↗ lead to the kpis and in the draft plan

18:38 ↗ so we just wanted to uh summarize at a

18:41 ↗ high level um our milestones and then

18:44 ↗ going back earlier in the presentation

18:47 ↗ covering a bit on the uh purpose the

18:50 ↗ approach you know applying the

18:51 ↗ fundamentals of adaptive management and

18:54 ↗ then keeping in mind maximizing the

18:56 ↗ benefits of trees sustainably

18:58 ↗ while addressing the known and unknown

19:01 ↗ challenges and threats facing trees in

19:03 ↗ isqua and so that concludes the

19:06 ↗ presentation if you go to the next slide

19:08 ↗ uh like I said we wanted to keep it high

19:10 ↗ level and be available for any questions

19:12 ↗ or comments you have around the project

19:15 ↗ isqu because Urban forest or just our

19:17 ↗ approach in general and just want to

19:19 ↗ thank you all for your time and looking

19:21 ↗ forward to your questions and comments

19:23 ↗ thank

19:26 ↗ you thank you Chris

19:28 ↗ um any questions from board members on

19:33 ↗ go ahead is your Ur forestry management

19:35 ↗ plan include your street

19:37 ↗ trees yes okay so it's two in one

19:41 ↗ yes I have a related question is is the

19:44 ↗ scope every tree like do we consider

19:46 ↗ every tree in isaa urban forest or is

19:49 ↗ there certain bounds to that is that is

19:52 ↗ this going to be about like the full 12

19:55 ↗ square miles of this claw trees is that

19:57 ↗ right

20:00 ↗ yes I mean the it's going to be another

20:01 ↗ tree canopy assessment we're actually

20:03 ↗ including a riparian assessment this

20:05 ↗ time too so I mean that's looking

20:06 ↗ comprehensively I mean a lot of the

20:08 ↗ strategies will be and and Chris and

20:10 ↗ Andrea jump in here if you have more to

20:12 ↗ add a lot of strategies obviously will

20:13 ↗ be where we have you know the actual um

20:17 ↗ you know kind of management

20:18 ↗ responsibilities which will be more

20:20 ↗ targeted to our you know street treeses

20:21 ↗ right aways buil environments and um uh

20:25 ↗ natural areas but obviously the kind of

20:27 ↗ policy review the kind of implementation

20:29 ↗ of that has big impacts on what goes on

20:31 ↗ in private property too so that is part

20:33 ↗ of it but you know those are things we

20:35 ↗ can kind of recommend on but you know

20:37 ↗ can't maybe as directly impact right

20:39 ↗ away at least um yeah Chris or Andrew

20:42 ↗ anything you want to add there yeah well

20:45 ↗ said um this is focused on public trees

20:48 ↗ those that the city has authority over

20:50 ↗ and you know ways in which you can

20:52 ↗ maintain and expand tree canopy cover

20:55 ↗ but also we're looking at the entire

20:57 ↗ Urban Forest and when we talk Urban

20:59 ↗ Forest it does include you know the

21:00 ↗ trees in rural areas or critical and uh

21:04 ↗ you know vital areas such as wetlands

21:06 ↗ and um wood lots and and like um Dan

21:10 ↗ said repairing areas we're doing a

21:12 ↗ canopy assessment but uh also like Dan

21:15 ↗ said um when it relates to trees on

21:18 ↗ private property oftentimes with these

21:21 ↗ types of plans those are addressed

21:23 ↗ through um existing um policies and

21:25 ↗ regulations around development and red

21:28 ↗ development um and we look at maybe

21:30 ↗ making recommendations for where there

21:33 ↗ might be inconsistencies or gaps or

21:36 ↗ things are unclear or Antiquated

21:38 ↗ language but then really a strong piece

21:40 ↗ of this is the Community Education and

21:42 ↗ engagement part of it really having um

21:45 ↗ the right messaging and uh the right uh

21:48 ↗ opportunities for folks to um see how

21:52 ↗ you know coming into the community not

21:54 ↗ just saying trees benefit you but

21:56 ↗ hearing from the Community First and

21:58 ↗ then saying well this is how trees fit

22:00 ↗ into this puzzle or how trees can

22:02 ↗ address these challenges and then you

22:04 ↗ know building that shared commitment

22:06 ↗ because what we often find that a lot of

22:08 ↗ the canopy cover this Urban Forest is on

22:11 ↗ private property so education and policy

22:14 ↗ and regulation come in hand with the

22:17 ↗ private

22:18 ↗ trees thank you NY go

22:21 ↗ ahead so I have several questions if I

22:23 ↗ have that opportunity um first off so

22:27 ↗ I've never seen what of these plans

22:28 ↗ before so do you assess the age of the

22:30 ↗ trees and potential lifespans of them so

22:33 ↗ that we're also looking at replacement

22:35 ↗ of them because they will over time not

22:37 ↗ continue to thrive and function like

22:40 ↗ they

22:41 ↗ should yeah so that's one of the things

22:43 ↗ looking at sustaining canopy cover

22:46 ↗ possibly you know looking at with these

22:48 ↗ types of plans there's an overarching

22:50 ↗ canopy goal and sometimes it's split up

22:53 ↗ by a canopy goal for public areas canopy

22:56 ↗ goals for private areas and what are

22:58 ↗ those strategies to sustain or expand

23:01 ↗ canopy cover oftentimes it's like what

23:03 ↗ you're describing there is there a

23:05 ↗ replacement strategy or a planting

23:07 ↗ strategy in place and to make informed

23:09 ↗ decisions around that we do want to look

23:12 ↗ at you know what's the composition what

23:14 ↗ types of trees what trees are doing well

23:16 ↗ with changing climates or you know maybe

23:19 ↗ lack of water or maybe the maintenance

23:22 ↗ and post-planting Care is limited and

23:24 ↗ then um What's the timing for plantings

23:27 ↗ do you have an aging canopy where let's

23:29 ↗ say a lot of trees will be you know

23:31 ↗ reaching their end of their lifespan

23:34 ↗ what is in place to recoup those loss of

23:36 ↗ benefits so that all goes into place uh

23:39 ↗ the more data that we have the better we

23:42 ↗ can make recommendations but there are a

23:44 ↗ lot of best practices Regional studies

23:47 ↗ you know the the canopy assessment data

23:50 ↗ will go a long way and looking at what's

23:52 ↗ the planting and replacement schedules

23:55 ↗ priorities and approaches for for those

23:58 ↗ uh benefits and the associated canopy

24:00 ↗ with that so I'm going to keep asking

24:04 ↗ questions if that's okay can I add one

24:06 ↗ thing to that just move on to your next

24:09 ↗ question I mean one of the things we

24:10 ↗ don't have at a city and will be

24:12 ↗ definitely laid out as a strategy this

24:13 ↗ plan is a tree inventory so we don't

24:17 ↗ really have that as other cities do I

24:18 ↗ mean city of samam just completed there

24:20 ↗ a couple years ago they have 20,000

24:21 ↗ trees in their inventory so I mean that

24:23 ↗ is something that I see as kind of the

24:24 ↗ next big step after this Forest

24:26 ↗ management plan to hopefully glean some

24:28 ↗ more information and kind of the type of

24:29 ↗ stuff you're asking and that's not in

24:31 ↗ their scope not currently no okay in

24:33 ↗ terms of kind of recommendations kind of

24:34 ↗ how we want to go you know I mean and

24:36 ↗ Planet Zu has software that you we could

24:38 ↗ consider using in the future for

24:40 ↗ managing tree inventories too so that's

24:42 ↗ definitely something that will be

24:43 ↗ recommended but not in the scope right

24:47 ↗ so you're not then looking at areas like

24:50 ↗ the highlands was built in roughly a

24:52 ↗ similar time frame s Mountain at least

24:54 ↗ the upper Parts there's a few places

24:56 ↗ added was build about the same time

24:58 ↗ frame Talis is an area with similar

25:00 ↗ range trees at least in its Street tree

25:03 ↗ inventory downtown is a mess but you

25:07 ↗ know but you know so you you have areas

25:10 ↗ where you can kind of identify that the

25:12 ↗ street trees were built or installed at

25:16 ↗ the same time um so can you use that to

25:19 ↗ your benefit in this plan to help

25:21 ↗ identify and many of them are similar in

25:25 ↗ type um similar in age

25:28 ↗ probably similar in watering

25:30 ↗ constraints um so it should make it a

25:32 ↗ little easier shouldn't it just ask

25:34 ↗ throwing that out there because of the

25:36 ↗ way the city has developed in many of

25:39 ↗ its neighborhoods I I think so yes and

25:42 ↗ you know I I have spent a lot of time in

25:45 ↗ in Talis and the highlands recently and

25:48 ↗ um I talk to Don about this a little bit

25:50 ↗ right after I started with the city I

25:51 ↗ mean there's a lot

25:53 ↗ of inadequate infrastructure that went

25:56 ↗ in for trees in the first place so it's

25:57 ↗ not necessarily the age of those trees I

25:59 ↗ mean a lot of those trees you're

26:00 ↗ speaking of our 20 to 30 years old and

26:02 ↗ hopefully would live for twice as long

26:04 ↗ if not more than that so we're not

26:05 ↗ necessarily at replacement stage for

26:07 ↗ those but then we are dealing with

26:09 ↗ issues where we have trees you know

26:10 ↗ planted in six to eight inches of top

26:12 ↗ soil and then glacial till and they're

26:15 ↗ now outgrowing three to five foot

26:17 ↗ planting strips and so that's kind of

26:18 ↗ getting into how we can best balance

26:21 ↗ that how we can best you know maybe

26:22 ↗ justify putting in more Investments to

26:24 ↗ improve some of those areas instead of

26:26 ↗ just having shorter tree replacement

26:28 ↗ intervals I think because of the

26:29 ↗ inadequate you know essentially

26:31 ↗ infrastructure we have in a lot of those

26:32 ↗ um kind of more forested hillsides so

26:36 ↗ but yeah I think that's a really good

26:37 ↗ point though is we do know the age of

26:39 ↗ those trees are pretty consistent with

26:40 ↗ when the development went in and you

26:42 ↗ know it's blocks of the same species and

26:44 ↗ um we're seeing the ones that are

26:45 ↗ causing the issues ones that are having

26:47 ↗ some Decline and ones that are kind of

26:49 ↗ thriving too so I think that's something

26:51 ↗ we can hopefully incorporate but I'll be

26:53 ↗ curious Chris or Andrew you have

26:55 ↗ thoughts on

26:56 ↗ that sure yeah and I like the idea um

26:59 ↗ and and we have applied that approach

27:01 ↗ before with parcel level data looking at

27:04 ↗ um the age of a home looking at um the

27:07 ↗ subdivision or the intended land use so

27:09 ↗ that we can get an estimate of like you

27:12 ↗ said the relative age of the trees

27:14 ↗ because when those um properties were

27:16 ↗ put in place there were likely tree

27:18 ↗ plantings um and part of my role with

27:20 ↗ this project is looking at you know yes

27:23 ↗ there is a missing piece with not having

27:25 ↗ a public tree inventory but we're going

27:27 ↗ to outline our approach to how we can

27:30 ↗ make um General um assessments or

27:34 ↗ analyses with the information we do have

27:37 ↗ at hand and so that's like likely an

27:39 ↗ input that we can use and one thing I um

27:42 ↗ you know I heard about like maybe

27:43 ↗ improving a site putting investments

27:46 ↗ into you know the soil and the available

27:48 ↗ space for the trees to grow I think

27:50 ↗ that's key because often times you hear

27:52 ↗ folks say about planting trees but less

27:54 ↗ on growing trees and so that's something

27:56 ↗ that we want to to really emphasize with

27:58 ↗ this plan um and then also um you know

28:02 ↗ keeping in mind that this is the first

28:04 ↗ management plan and we'll be building in

28:06 ↗ a framework where you review Monitor and

28:09 ↗ revise and then take the next step maybe

28:11 ↗ for the next five years and so yeah you

28:14 ↗ may not have an inventory for the

28:16 ↗ starting point but this can get things

28:18 ↗ off the ground looking at uh funding

28:20 ↗ mechanisms so that you can do

28:23 ↗ inventories and then that can feed into

28:25 ↗ the Adaptive management approach so so

28:27 ↗ yeah um lots lots to uh determine in in

28:31 ↗ terms of our approach but like I said

28:33 ↗ we're getting into the um research and

28:35 ↗ Analysis phase so uh those types of

28:38 ↗ decisions will be happening soon so I'm

28:40 ↗ glad to hear the the input there on

28:42 ↗ looking at like age of the property or

28:44 ↗ or um types of

28:47 ↗ neighborhoods I just have one last

28:49 ↗ comment many of the trees in the city

28:51 ↗ have created trip hazards which create a

28:53 ↗ liability to the city and so uh the root

28:56 ↗ zon and looking at those are um

28:59 ↗ something that I'm hoping is one of the

29:01 ↗ criteria or something to be considered

29:04 ↗ because tearing up sidewalks or tearing

29:06 ↗ up streets to deal with roots is not

29:08 ↗ necessarily fun and a huge cost to the

29:11 ↗ public works side of it and then it also

29:13 ↗ damages the trees so we need to be

29:16 ↗ thinking about you know trip hazards

29:18 ↗ that are created by roots and making

29:20 ↗ sure we're um addressing those that's

29:23 ↗ all my comments for now thank you thank

29:25 ↗ you Nancy we'll go to Tom and then

29:29 ↗ okay thank you uh so I know this plan is

29:32 ↗ a very applied plan to applied to the

29:34 ↗ Trees of this claw but I'm wondering

29:37 ↗ whether the city is contemplating you

29:39 ↗ know further advancement of the science

29:42 ↗ and participating in research programs

29:45 ↗ like the Western red seedar dieback

29:47 ↗ program does does the city see that as

29:50 ↗ part of um their mission uh at all or is

29:54 ↗ that is that something that would be

29:57 ↗ included in the budget of your

29:59 ↗ department D or is that something that's

30:02 ↗ to a field for a field I I think

30:05 ↗ absolutely and that's something that I

30:07 ↗ mean thanks to Ann I've been connected

30:08 ↗ with Joey and um Forest Health watch on

30:10 ↗ some of the Cedar dieback and maybe I'll

30:12 ↗ hand it to Andrea here in a second who's

30:14 ↗ definitely familiar with that program as

30:15 ↗ well so um very much and kind of Chris

30:18 ↗ talked about thinking about the you know

30:21 ↗ kind of changing conditions we have you

30:23 ↗ know from our changing climate and kind

30:25 ↗ of what that means for best practices

30:26 ↗ and you know trying to learn why we're

30:28 ↗ seeing these declines of certain species

30:30 ↗ like red cedar um you know I'm also part

30:33 ↗ of a forest adaptation Network where

30:34 ↗ they're really looking at kind of the

30:36 ↗ assisted migration approaches or the

30:38 ↗ assisted genetic migration and that's

30:39 ↗ something that Andrea can touch on to

30:41 ↗ and we'll be kind of considering this

30:42 ↗ plan so yeah certainly trying to stay up

30:46 ↗ you know with the with the Curve there

30:47 ↗ in terms of what those kind of new

30:49 ↗ developing approaches are for for

30:51 ↗ managing trees and what is kind of a

30:53 ↗ moving Target climate wise um Andre you

30:57 ↗ want yeah um I apologize my voice is a

31:00 ↗ little froggy right now

31:03 ↗ um I'm getting over being sick um so

31:07 ↗ while participating heavily in terms of

31:10 ↗ necessarily providing data for research

31:12 ↗ programs that are going on like Western

31:13 ↗ red cedar dieback or like the monitoring

31:16 ↗ programs um a plan like this isn't

31:19 ↗ necessarily providing data to support

31:21 ↗ those but we are definitely keeping very

31:23 ↗ close tabs on any data that is being

31:25 ↗ released with those any kind of changes

31:27 ↗ in approach or um theories or processes

31:31 ↗ that are are happening to monitor that

31:33 ↗ dieback and anything that would be

31:36 ↗ useful and applicable to the trees and

31:38 ↗ isqua you know may be included in our

31:41 ↗ plan and overall strategy as a

31:43 ↗ recommendation part of our

31:45 ↗ recommendations also include ongoing

31:47 ↗ Community engagement you know as chis

31:49 ↗ kind of pointed out at the beginning of

31:50 ↗ our presentation um having the community

31:53 ↗ Buy in in managing and sustaining our

31:56 ↗ Urban Forest is really important so

31:58 ↗ identifying ways that we can continue

32:01 ↗ kind of working together on these

32:02 ↗ projects and those research projects are

32:04 ↗ a really important piece um is a big

32:07 ↗ part of of ongoing sustainable Urban

32:09 ↗ Forest management and like Dan mentioned

32:13 ↗ uh one piece that we discussed fairly

32:15 ↗ recently is when we're making

32:17 ↗ recommendations for tree species that

32:19 ↗ are that might be more suitable given

32:21 ↗ what we expect the climate to look like

32:23 ↗ in 5 10 15 30 60 years uh one of the

32:27 ↗ things we've been exploring and

32:28 ↗ following pretty closely is assisted

32:30 ↗ migration so when we're looking at you

32:32 ↗ know we are experiencing that Western

32:34 ↗ red seedar die off is it an effective

32:36 ↗ strategy to use seed banks from further

32:40 ↗ south in drier uh hotter parts of the

32:44 ↗ natural Western red seedar range and

32:47 ↗ kind of assisting moving that up instead

32:49 ↗ of recommending species that are

32:51 ↗ completely either foreign or maybe

32:54 ↗ haven't thrived here before um

32:56 ↗ supporting kind of of the natural and

32:58 ↗ cultural recognition of the trees that

33:00 ↗ are already here um and how we can kind

33:02 ↗ of sustain those moving

33:04 ↗ forward okay thank

33:07 ↗ you over to Joy thank you I was hoping

33:10 ↗ to get um a little more information of a

33:13 ↗ brief summary of kind of uh about the

33:15 ↗ tree plotter Tech that you guys use um

33:16 ↗ I'm assuming you use lar um and kind of

33:19 ↗ curious to get a little background on

33:20 ↗ how we're getting the data that we're

33:21 ↗ going to be basing everything on and

33:23 ↗ kind of how we're do verification on the

33:25 ↗ ground

33:28 ↗ sure yeah so um we have a um a follow-up

33:32 ↗ that we can do on some of the specifics

33:35 ↗ around um processes but with our last

33:37 ↗ presentation one of the questions that

33:39 ↗ came up was you know um what is

33:41 ↗ considered a tree in terms of height and

33:43 ↗ so one thing I wanted to cover is that

33:45 ↗ um it's anything 12 feet and above I

33:47 ↗ believe is what we gathered from our GIS

33:50 ↗ team on what is classified as a tree so

33:53 ↗ starting with that but then the overall

33:55 ↗ process is that um we utilize a

33:58 ↗ partnership with a company called Earth

34:00 ↗ Define that has um Nationwide canopy

34:04 ↗ data um I'm not going to define the

34:07 ↗ accuracy but I know it's 95% or greater

34:10 ↗ and it's high resolution and what they

34:12 ↗ utilize is nape imagery National

34:15 ↗ agriculture imagery program imagery that

34:18 ↗ has four band so it has a color infrared

34:20 ↗ band to look at uh classifying different

34:23 ↗ land cover classes with an emphasis on

34:26 ↗ trees so we look at tree canopy cover

34:29 ↗ tree canopy cover over perious and

34:31 ↗ impervious and then other land cover

34:33 ↗ classes like um bare soil grass and then

34:38 ↗ I'd have to check back on the scope of

34:41 ↗ um canopy assessments but sometimes

34:43 ↗ impervious is split out into different

34:45 ↗ paved or hard surfaces like your

34:47 ↗ roadways parking lots and buildings now

34:51 ↗ this is for this project we're focused

34:53 ↗ on the reparan areas so that's looking

34:56 ↗ at those different land cover types but

34:59 ↗ we'll likely look at buffer width so

35:01 ↗ that you know what is the land cover

35:03 ↗ with certain widths away from the center

35:06 ↗ line of a water body like a stream or or

35:09 ↗ a river and then um to really uh improve

35:13 ↗ the accuracy and to speed up the process

35:16 ↗ and make it more efficient and cost

35:18 ↗ effective um and this is outside of my

35:21 ↗ expertise but we use uh artificial

35:23 ↗ intelligence for the QA QC process so

35:26 ↗ back when I joined Planet Geo in 2014 we

35:30 ↗ had to get um you know uh junior staff

35:33 ↗ to just comb through the data and to

35:36 ↗ determine the accuracy of a um

35:39 ↗ randomized point that was classified and

35:41 ↗ now we have ai to do this much more

35:43 ↗ quickly and to keep um that accuracy so

35:47 ↗ then that data you had mentioned tree

35:50 ↗ plotter tree platter is an online GIS so

35:53 ↗ you can view the canopy you can view

35:55 ↗ other land cover classes we often do

35:58 ↗ what's called possible planting area so

36:00 ↗ that's typically your grass area and we

36:03 ↗ remove unsuitable areas so you're not

36:05 ↗ going to plant trees you know in a

36:07 ↗ baseball field or uh an airport strip so

36:11 ↗ we exclude unsuitable then you have this

36:13 ↗ possible planting area and that's

36:16 ↗ another way that in the tree plotter app

36:18 ↗ you can look at where are those

36:20 ↗ opportunities you know where your canopy

36:22 ↗ cover is where are those other

36:24 ↗ opportunities to um expand canopy and

36:28 ↗ then there's a plan tool in tree plotter

36:31 ↗ where you can look at a variety of

36:32 ↗ themes maybe you're looking to address

36:35 ↗ storm water or water quality or areas

36:38 ↗ that could uh reduce Urban heat and

36:40 ↗ urban heat Islands um maybe addressing

36:43 ↗ underserved populations using Census

36:45 ↗ Bureau data so that's another step you

36:48 ↗ know taking the assessment and starting

36:50 ↗ to put it into action and like I said uh

36:53 ↗ it's a little bit outside of my

36:54 ↗ expertise to talk on the tech for canopy

36:57 ↗ assessments but just in my involvement

37:00 ↗ that's my understanding and we can get

37:02 ↗ you more details on on the gis process

37:04 ↗ but um it will be a deliverables that if

37:07 ↗ the city has uh GIS capabilities you can

37:12 ↗ work with manipulate view that data

37:14 ↗ overlay it with other planning

37:16 ↗ boundaries to make other decisions

37:19 ↗ around trees and and infrastructure so

37:22 ↗ that'll be part of the the project is

37:23 ↗ that that GIS package of data too

37:27 ↗ that's great information Chris I'm

37:28 ↗ curious as somebody who's um been in

37:30 ↗ very detailed conversations about what

37:32 ↗ is a tree when creating our tree policy

37:35 ↗ I'm curious if you guys then are able to

37:36 ↗ take that uh data and a part of that

37:38 ↗ process is then actually reviewing um

37:40 ↗ kind of our our current policies in

37:42 ↗ place and being able to um maybe shed a

37:45 ↗ light on what needs tweaking or where we

37:48 ↗ kind of need to be able to be um

37:49 ↗ creating a more robust policy to protect

37:52 ↗ trees yeah um so maybe not not within

37:57 ↗ this scope but uh we worked with Tacoma

37:59 ↗ where it was a unique project where we

38:01 ↗ used the liar I forgot to mention that

38:03 ↗ is an input when I talked nape and uh AI

38:07 ↗ lidar is more of elevation data shooting

38:10 ↗ lasers down to get the Contours and um

38:13 ↗ you can find trees in the shadows or in

38:15 ↗ angles of building so you find all the

38:18 ↗ canopy that you can with lar but um with

38:21 ↗ Tacoma it was a cool example where we

38:23 ↗ used the highest points in the point

38:26 ↗ class data of the liar to say that this

38:29 ↗ is a canopy point it may be one of your

38:32 ↗ tallest trees in the city so we use that

38:34 ↗ data defeat into their Heritage tree

38:36 ↗ program because they were looking to

38:38 ↗ expand it um so that that's one example

38:41 ↗ um there's also opportunities now with

38:44 ↗ the technology getting better where we

38:46 ↗ can identify individual stem counts

38:49 ↗ before we just knew uh polygons now

38:52 ↗ we're able to pinpoint the location of

38:56 ↗ individual stems so we're not at the

38:59 ↗ point yet where we can say that stem is

39:01 ↗ a western red seedar or you know big

39:03 ↗ leaf maple or uh Oregon white oak or

39:06 ↗ anything like that there is

39:08 ↗ hyperspectral imagery but it's really

39:10 ↗ costly um but to know the number of

39:13 ↗ trees is a really good starting point um

39:17 ↗ so I think that's about as yeah that

39:20 ↗ that's all I can think of right now as

39:22 ↗ far as um like how you can use that data

39:25 ↗ for improve or examining your tree

39:28 ↗ policies but maybe Andrea has some

39:29 ↗ thoughts and not to put you on the spot

39:31 ↗ but those are the things that came to

39:33 ↗ mind uh datawise no I think that's okay

39:36 ↗ I think you covered um everything in

39:38 ↗ terms of taking that canopy data that

39:40 ↗ we're able to get and then applying that

39:41 ↗ to policies but to kind of just expand a

39:44 ↗ little bit on you know what type of

39:46 ↗ policy recommendations we might be

39:47 ↗ making we are looking really closely at

39:50 ↗ the existing policies whether that's

39:52 ↗ tree retention during development or

39:55 ↗ what the risk threshold must be to

39:57 ↗ remove trees on private property what is

39:59 ↗ considered a significant tree based on

40:01 ↗ you know size um what the tree

40:04 ↗ preservation practices are tree credits

40:06 ↗ and then um our role isn't necessarily

40:09 ↗ to say okay go change these codes but

40:11 ↗ it's to make recommendations on what is

40:14 ↗ most effective what might help programs

40:17 ↗ or goals be more effective and then that

40:19 ↗ is something that you know Dan's

40:21 ↗ department and maybe this board or other

40:23 ↗ boards would then take to to Council and

40:26 ↗ look for for codee changes if there are

40:30 ↗ you know holes or things that might be

40:31 ↗ improved or better incentives that could

40:33 ↗ be um established to help retain canopy

40:36 ↗ or or promote better stewardship of

40:39 ↗ it great

40:41 ↗ information I I did just remember and uh

40:44 ↗ if Alex was on the call she could speak

40:46 ↗ to the um yeah the the canopy planning

40:50 ↗ aspect that we did working with uh Dan

40:53 ↗ Mar Martinez with isqua um using canopy

40:57 ↗ data and using um the uh tree regulation

41:03 ↗ procedures to come up with uh the canopy

41:07 ↗ forms around preservation mitigation

41:11 ↗ retention replanting and so I'll just

41:14 ↗ stop there because I wasn't as involved

41:16 ↗ with the project but it was a really

41:17 ↗ cool one that um we worked with isqua on

41:20 ↗ so I'd like to see how that um gets

41:24 ↗ examined in this management planning

41:26 ↗ process and like Andrea said maybe we

41:28 ↗ examine it further to make

41:30 ↗ recommendations that you all can

41:32 ↗ consider you know in future

41:36 ↗ steps right next we over to

41:40 ↗ crage um yeah I just have a couple of

41:43 ↗ questions and I know the plan um it's

41:46 ↗ primarily focused on management and

41:49 ↗ growth of existing trees and Forest

41:52 ↗ canopy uh but I wanted to check if any

41:55 ↗ uh plant hunting trees is also a part of

41:58 ↗ the

41:59 ↗ plan and the second question is is there

42:02 ↗ a consideration given in this plan about

42:05 ↗ Native versus non-native trees you know

42:08 ↗ existing non-native trees if there is an

42:10 ↗ issue with that um as well as if you're

42:13 ↗ planting new trees are you considering

42:16 ↗ just native or is there any

42:17 ↗ consideration component to

42:23 ↗ that yeah I can start off okay go for it

42:27 ↗ Chris I'll say um yeah those are things

42:29 ↗ that we we look at um the the management

42:32 ↗ of trees but also um sustaining and

42:35 ↗ maximizing benefits and looking at the

42:38 ↗ planting strategies for replacing trees

42:40 ↗ that need to be removed and um for

42:43 ↗ finding new places or creating new

42:45 ↗ planting sites for expanding tree canopy

42:48 ↗ cover and when we talk uh going back to

42:51 ↗ that James Clark quote a sustainable

42:53 ↗ Urban Forest so we're looking at the

42:55 ↗ what What's led by City what What's led

42:58 ↗ by development projects and what can

43:00 ↗ residents do to plant and maintain and

43:02 ↗ grow those trees and you know part of

43:05 ↗ the sustainable strategy is just looking

43:07 ↗ at what trees are resilient which trees

43:10 ↗ will Thrive with changing conditions um

43:13 ↗ keeping in mind species diversity but

43:15 ↗ also the importance of native trees and

43:18 ↗ you know the biodiversity that they

43:20 ↗ support you know and the pollinator and

43:22 ↗ the habitat and Wildlife support that

43:24 ↗ native trees in the region provide and

43:27 ↗ so that that factors into our planting

43:31 ↗ strategies um so do you have any you

43:33 ↗ know list of native trees or any

43:36 ↗ guidance for residents as part of the

43:38 ↗ Outreach you know because some people

43:40 ↗ might be interested in actually planting

43:42 ↗ planting native trees or they have any

43:45 ↗ backyard restoration projects they would

43:47 ↗ be interested in I definitely was and I

43:49 ↗ couldn't find the information at least

43:51 ↗ at that time when I was working on it um

43:54 ↗ so that would be a great way to you know

43:56 ↗ community outreach if you have these

43:58 ↗ lists

44:00 ↗ published so I I can just kind of say

44:02 ↗ real quick the city does have a

44:03 ↗ preferred tree list and it's it's a mix

44:05 ↗ of native species and introduced species

44:08 ↗ we very clearly try to make sure there's

44:11 ↗ not invasive species or you know listed

44:13 ↗ naous Weeds on that list and in past

44:15 ↗ versions there have been a few that

44:18 ↗ we've we've uh removed here

44:20 ↗ recently um I don't think within the

44:23 ↗ city we have a specific document that's

44:25 ↗ you know kind of geared towards you know

44:26 ↗ kind of native plant selection um King

44:29 ↗ County does there's some really good

44:30 ↗ resources through King County through

44:32 ↗ washingt Native Plant Society so there's

44:34 ↗ some really good places that maybe we

44:35 ↗ could do a better job building out kind

44:37 ↗ of an urban urban Forest Hub you know

44:39 ↗ through our city websites and linking to

44:40 ↗ some of those things I don't think we'

44:42 ↗ be kind of inventing our own because

44:43 ↗ like I said a lot of those resources do

44:44 ↗ exist but I I think there's definitely

44:46 ↗ room for improvement for us to be making

44:48 ↗ that easier to find through some of our

44:50 ↗ city um channels so yeah good question

44:52 ↗ though and I would say a little bit too

44:54 ↗ I mean yeah the native non-native our

44:56 ↗ you know kind of natural areas more

44:58 ↗ contiguous Forest areas right perian

45:00 ↗ areas we are really prioritizing native

45:02 ↗ species and that's where Andre is

45:04 ↗ talking about some of those native

45:05 ↗ species are declining with some of the

45:07 ↗ climate change we're having but then

45:08 ↗ maybe even looking at you know the

45:09 ↗ genetics of those species that vary you

45:11 ↗ know dougas spur has a giant range from

45:13 ↗ Canada to the mountains of Mexico and

45:15 ↗ the genetics adapt quite specifically to

45:17 ↗ its local climate so it's a you know

45:20 ↗ kind of interesting game to kind of try

45:22 ↗ to pick you know what we expect trees

45:24 ↗ conditions to have in 50 years versus

45:26 ↗ what it is right now but there's a lot

45:27 ↗ of that going on versus you know the

45:29 ↗ other kind of more aggressive you know

45:31 ↗ species migration would be you know the

45:33 ↗ moving up of redwoods or moving up of

45:35 ↗ species that are well out of their

45:36 ↗ native range and that's something that

45:38 ↗ is certainly being thought about but

45:39 ↗ definitely there's a lot more hesitation

45:41 ↗ and kind of risk with an approach like

45:43 ↗ that

45:44 ↗ so thank you and go ahead thanks

45:49 ↗ Jamie um so I know with green isqua you

45:53 ↗ think about the end story and as well as

45:56 ↗ the trees and so I imagine this is

45:58 ↗ something that will be documented and

46:00 ↗ looked at as well in this program I and

46:02 ↗ I I noticed you mentioned soils which is

46:05 ↗ really great that you'll be looking at

46:07 ↗ improving soils as well

46:10 ↗ yes yeah um around best

46:13 ↗ practices and I think maybe Andrew is

46:15 ↗ going to say a little bit more on that

46:18 ↗ yeah I can add to that um so as part of

46:21 ↗ our recommendations and kind of just

46:22 ↗ overall sustainable Forest management

46:24 ↗ like Chris mentioned the the best

46:26 ↗ practices so what we know are most

46:28 ↗ effective practices and approaches for

46:30 ↗ successfully growing trees past that

46:32 ↗ point of just planting um and then the

46:35 ↗ understory question so the green isqua

46:38 ↗ with the implementation plan or the

46:40 ↗ 20-year plan that was recently uh

46:42 ↗ published part of our plan is going

46:45 ↗ through or part of our process is going

46:47 ↗ through those existing plans that you

46:49 ↗ know play really well with an urban

46:51 ↗ Forest management plan and making sure

46:52 ↗ that we are aligning goals strategies so

46:55 ↗ why while our assessment isn't

46:58 ↗ necessarily focused on under story

47:00 ↗ because we are talking that does apply a

47:03 ↗ little bit more in the in the Parks

47:05 ↗ specifically and our planning is a

47:08 ↗ little bit more zoomed out than that you

47:09 ↗ know we're talking about well we might

47:11 ↗ make recommendations specifically for

47:13 ↗ Parks we're also talking about Street

47:14 ↗ trees might be talking about trees on

47:16 ↗ private property might be talking about

47:18 ↗ Green spaces um but the restoration and

47:21 ↗ reforestation planning that something

47:23 ↗ like green isaa is doing they are

47:26 ↗ focused on that that really specific

47:28 ↗ aspect of it so we want to make sure

47:29 ↗ that our plan is supporting other plans

47:32 ↗ and initiatives that are working to

47:33 ↗ improve certain areas of forest like

47:35 ↗ that um but we won't be necessarily

47:38 ↗ making like understory uh

47:41 ↗ recommendations or um like management

47:44 ↗ planning

47:47 ↗ decisions

47:49 ↗ thanks I had a some comments uh so first

47:54 ↗ of all um a plot is going down to path

47:56 ↗ this tree canopy has been something that

47:59 ↗ I felt like we've had goals and not

48:01 ↗ strategies or policies that were really

48:02 ↗ going to get us there that's something

48:03 ↗ I've probably heard me say too many

48:05 ↗ times at this point through the title 18

48:07 ↗ te process so I I look forward to going

48:09 ↗ through this process I do think we

48:11 ↗ should be really clear about the

48:12 ↗ overarching goals because I think

48:14 ↗ there's difference between trying to

48:16 ↗ increase overall canopy versus

48:18 ↗ increasing Street trees I'm curious what

48:21 ↗ we come up with is like those guiding

48:23 ↗ lights of those North stars that we're

48:24 ↗ going to be looking for

48:26 ↗ um I think this group probably we've

48:28 ↗ thought a lot about IAP which has the 51

48:31 ↗ to 55% so like that that's the one I'll

48:34 ↗ focus on with some of my comments but

48:35 ↗ like I know that there's other things

48:37 ↗ that we should be focusing on that I'm

48:38 ↗ less educated or less clear what those

48:41 ↗ will be so definitely interested to see

48:42 ↗ how kind of a framework for

48:44 ↗ prioritization comes into play um

48:48 ↗ focusing in on that 55% goal um this was

48:51 ↗ something I'm glad an did last time

48:53 ↗ although I think the number actually is

48:54 ↗ higher than what they and calculated

48:56 ↗ lower then we did it it's lower it's

48:59 ↗ higher it's it's basically if you

49:01 ↗ convert like 11.4 square miles into

49:04 ↗ acres and you do 4% of that it's like

49:06 ↗ 290 roughly acres and so I think one of

49:10 ↗ the things that I would really love to

49:11 ↗ see is as part of this plan us

49:13 ↗ quantifying what we're doing relative to

49:16 ↗ that as our at least one of our North

49:18 ↗ Stars and how are we actually going to

49:20 ↗ make move the needle relative to that

49:23 ↗ goal so I would love to see in kind of

49:26 ↗ off of what um what Joy was saying like

49:28 ↗ I would love to see us start getting

49:30 ↗ more data driven with our decisions on

49:32 ↗ okay things like Daniel Martinez and

49:34 ↗ everything we did on Title 18 modeling

49:36 ↗ different percentage canopy in

49:38 ↗ neighborhoods we know turnover

49:40 ↗ development how often that happens we

49:42 ↗ know what we're at today we know how

49:44 ↗ much that will change based on the the

49:47 ↗ kind of the plots that we'll have

49:48 ↗ Redevelopment on them we can start to

49:50 ↗ understand where do we actually think

49:51 ↗ we're going to be in 2035 I think is the

49:54 ↗ time frame I would love for us to start

49:56 ↗ using whatever we end up output of this

49:59 ↗ in our policy decisions and and

50:01 ↗ everything we can do to kind of look at

50:04 ↗ at least with that 55% canopy goal is

50:06 ↗ this going to get us there and like what

50:09 ↗ is this act what is the progress we need

50:10 ↗ to make I I have a feeling what we're

50:12 ↗ going to find out of that is that if we

50:15 ↗ look at like where there's those

50:17 ↗ planable areas that Chris was talk you

50:18 ↗ had use I can't remember the term you

50:19 ↗ use but like that number is probably not

50:22 ↗ available within City properties and so

50:26 ↗ how are we then looking at the other

50:28 ↗ properties that we need to have change

50:31 ↗ over happen and then look like that that

50:33 ↗ should be a part of the conversation I

50:35 ↗ think one way to help us organize and

50:38 ↗ kind of prioritize our policies um

50:40 ↗ because I I just don't know how we get

50:42 ↗ to 200 that 290 acre is a really big

50:44 ↗ area and I love that we have lofty goals

50:47 ↗ but I think that is probably going to

50:49 ↗ mean we're going to need to have a lot

50:50 ↗ of movement on properties that the city

50:52 ↗ doesn't know so that's just one thing

50:54 ↗ that I yeah yeah just seems really

50:56 ↗ important as we go through this

50:59 ↗ process I I'll add one or two thoughts

51:01 ↗ on that so yeah P PPA is possible

51:03 ↗ planting area and you know we we do have

51:05 ↗ that data from the 2019 Urban Tree

51:08 ↗ canopy assessment which is 2017 data

51:11 ↗ we'll be having I believe Chris our

51:13 ↗ updated tree canopy assessments be 2021

51:15 ↗ data I believe we'll have well a

51:17 ↗ fouryear update there and you know the

51:19 ↗ 2011 was our original kind of

51:21 ↗ benchmarker Baseline so it went up 3%

51:23 ↗ between 2011 and 2007 17 data sets um

51:28 ↗ yes you know the thing that Andre and I

51:29 ↗ have just had very brief emails back and

51:31 ↗ forth and this is more in my court than

51:33 ↗ I think yours at this point is kind of

51:35 ↗ making up a term here but like planting

51:37 ↗ in progress areas with that kind of 12

51:39 ↗ foot uh minimum in terms of registering

51:42 ↗ in our tree canopy or registering as

51:44 ↗ tree canopy um we certainly don't have

51:46 ↗ 290 Acres but it's not insignificant the

51:49 ↗ amount of Acres we have that are not

51:51 ↗ current canopy um sorry I'm looking at

51:53 ↗ an just like you we are planting trees

51:55 ↗ for green is a qu day this past weekend

51:56 ↗ is about an acre of unforested uh you

51:59 ↗ know hopefully future canopy in the next

52:01 ↗ five or 10 years but it takes at least

52:02 ↗ five or 10 years to get to that 12 foot

52:04 ↗ height i' would say closer to 10 for a

52:05 ↗ lot of our conifers so I am trying to

52:08 ↗ kind of rack my brain around a little

52:09 ↗ bit how we could you know come up with

52:11 ↗ some good estimates there to see where

52:12 ↗ we're on track and then you know

52:14 ↗ essentially do what you're doing what is

52:15 ↗ the analysis to get us to that next you

52:17 ↗ know kind

52:18 ↗ of higher the lne goal of 290 or

52:21 ↗ whatever the acres is to get to 55% so

52:25 ↗ uh that that is kind of my thoughts on

52:26 ↗ that and then a couple other things that

52:27 ↗ are coinciding with this and I'm

52:29 ↗ actually working on with with with Stacy

52:31 ↗ a little bit and David re is kind of

52:32 ↗ taking lead on this with

52:33 ↗ sustainability uh we just got awarded a

52:36 ↗ Evan School through University of

52:38 ↗ Washington cohort that'll be working

52:39 ↗ with us for kind of six months starting

52:41 ↗ in January so people are familiar that's

52:42 ↗ their um public policy uh graduate

52:45 ↗ program and they're going to be making

52:47 ↗ some recommendations specifically on uh

52:50 ↗ you know kind of tree giveaway tree

52:52 ↗ incentive you know mainly planting I

52:54 ↗ think there could be way we could spin

52:55 ↗ it around maintenance too but really

52:57 ↗ trying to figure out how we can

52:58 ↗ incentivize and I want put you on the

53:00 ↗ spot but I think there's some talk about

53:01 ↗ having some funding through

53:02 ↗ sustainability to um you know maybe

53:04 ↗ Implement a program like that in the

53:05 ↗ next budget cycle of 25 26 so that might

53:09 ↗ still be a small thing but you know is

53:11 ↗ still working towards that kind of

53:12 ↗ private property goals there um and then

53:15 ↗ another one that maybe doesn't relate as

53:16 ↗ much to the uh you know question you had

53:18 ↗ there comments Jamie is um working with

53:20 ↗ a group called thriving Earth exchange

53:22 ↗ that kind of puts together uh scientists

53:25 ↗ some kind of specialist and and really

53:27 ↗ looking at um kind of getting into some

53:28 ↗ more of the tree selection kind of ideas

53:30 ↗ and how that relates to climate

53:32 ↗ adaptability storm water you know some

53:34 ↗ of these different factors that we know

53:35 ↗ really play a big part of our benefits

53:38 ↗ our Urban canopy provide so we have a

53:40 ↗ couple of these coinciding efforts that

53:41 ↗ hopefully will complement the time

53:42 ↗ frames will work well with our Urban

53:44 ↗ Forest management plan with Planet Geo

53:46 ↗ um but yeah the the private property one

53:48 ↗ were trying to you know jump start that

53:51 ↗ and kind of figure out that the best way

53:52 ↗ to go sorry I'm putting dime on the spot

53:55 ↗ again again but I kind of picked his

53:56 ↗ brain about that with some programs in

53:57 ↗ the past and bell viw and kind of pros

53:59 ↗ and cons of how those have run and yeah

54:01 ↗ but I think that's something we

54:01 ↗ definitely want to look at piloting here

54:03 ↗ in the next uh year year and a half

54:06 ↗ thank you yeah two just two other

54:08 ↗ related thoughts um one I'm curious what

54:11 ↗ our output because I know we have the

54:13 ↗ tree bank that was like included in

54:15 ↗ Title 18 I hope that we figure out the

54:19 ↗ best use for those funds and that seems

54:22 ↗ like a really logical this plan seems

54:24 ↗ like a really logical place to have that

54:26 ↗ and then on the title 18 note I do think

54:29 ↗ it would be interesting to look at the

54:30 ↗ policies that are in there and run them

54:33 ↗ against whatever however we're going to

54:34 ↗ analyze our tree canopy and and what we

54:37 ↗ think our goal should be to figure out

54:40 ↗ like where are there gaps and it sounds

54:42 ↗ like you guys are probably doing this

54:43 ↗ but I think that's a really key output

54:45 ↗ is like are there places we need to be

54:47 ↗ updating Title 18 to help with this um

54:50 ↗ and what is what within Title 18 today

54:53 ↗ what do we think is going to be moving

54:55 ↗ the needle verses maybe isn't

54:57 ↗ or something that needs to be

55:02 ↗ changed yeah if I could just add one

55:05 ↗ comment um looking at our milestones and

55:08 ↗ our timeline um the first three months

55:11 ↗ of the new year um we're looking at

55:13 ↗ drafting the planting strategies and

55:15 ↗ canopy goals and it sounds like with the

55:18 ↗ um input and the ideas that you all are

55:20 ↗ sharing here it would be great if we

55:22 ↗ could outline our approach um and then

55:25 ↗ and some of the inputs and

55:27 ↗ considerations and then have uh members

55:29 ↗ of the board if possible review you know

55:32 ↗ after we sit down with Dan and others to

55:34 ↗ go through and refine and then get input

55:37 ↗ and feedback because there's a lot to

55:39 ↗ consider here I think it's um really

55:41 ↗ important to have these effective goals

55:42 ↗ and strategies to with with your input

55:45 ↗ so just wanted to mention that in terms

55:46 ↗ of the

55:49 ↗ timeline thank you any other comments on

55:53 ↗ this section

55:59 ↗ I think on

56:01 ↗ this CHR Andrea thank you so much for

56:03 ↗ joining us Chris is out east a little

56:05 ↗ bit so it's late for him so thank you

56:06 ↗ for uh sticking with us and we'll chat

56:10 ↗ with you both here soon happy to be here

56:12 ↗ great discussion it really shows that

56:13 ↗ there is interest and concern and uh

56:16 ↗ knowledge around the urban Forest so

56:18 ↗ appreciate all of your time and we have

56:20 ↗ a ton of notes here and a lot to work to

56:22 ↗ be done but this goes a long way meeting

56:24 ↗ with you so thanks for the

56:26 ↗ opportunity thank you very much everyone

56:28 ↗ have a great

56:30 ↗ night thank you

56:35 ↗ you talk to

56:38 ↗ Don he's heard

56:42 ↗ it well kind anything I can I can get

56:44 ↗ back to them and get if you want there

56:48 ↗ and I know we talked recently but if you

56:49 ↗ want our consultant sort of kind of

56:51 ↗ point of view on anything I can

56:53 ↗ certainly certainly make sure

56:57 ↗ you Wantage yes yes I

57:02 ↗ think hopefully can be a fairly short

57:04 ↗ presentation and then similar kind of

57:06 ↗ discussion this this you know a few

57:07 ↗ specific questions for you all in this

57:09 ↗ one too but um yeah I guess I didn't

57:12 ↗ introduce myself I mean I know I know a

57:13 ↗ lot of you served on this board for a

57:16 ↗ few years after it started but I'm Dan

57:18 ↗ hin the urban Forest supervisor there's

57:20 ↗ a few people I don't think i' I've met

57:22 ↗ one or two people before tonight so good

57:24 ↗ to see you all thanks for keeping up the

57:26 ↗ good work on this on this board um this

57:28 ↗ was a new position with the city started

57:30 ↗ about seven months ago um and uh

57:33 ↗ obviously the urban Forest management

57:34 ↗ plans a kind of big push we're going to

57:36 ↗ talk briefly after heritance tree

57:37 ↗ program about green is aqua I supervise

57:39 ↗ our park ranger and kind of what we

57:40 ↗ refer to as our Urban forest team within

57:42 ↗ Parks operations we'll have a few

57:44 ↗ updates there uh really just kind of

57:46 ↗ programmatic updates at the end uh but

57:48 ↗ did want to focus on our heritage tree

57:50 ↗ program here um this is something I

57:53 ↗ presented to the park board in their

57:54 ↗ October oober meeting a couple weeks ago

57:57 ↗ um hopefully people are familiar we have

57:59 ↗ a Heritage tree program um this is

58:01 ↗ something that was started in 2005 and

58:03 ↗ actually Stacy if you want to jump to

58:05 ↗ the next slide thank you um we'll kind

58:07 ↗ of cover that perfect um you know what

58:11 ↗ is a Heritage tree program and what does

58:12 ↗ that look like in isqua so um we'll do a

58:15 ↗ kind of quick recap of a couple of our

58:16 ↗ current Heritage trees but those were

58:18 ↗ the slides at the end of the

58:19 ↗ presentation if you're actually

58:20 ↗ interested I mentioned I think they

58:22 ↗ might still be on here leani and Mina

58:24 ↗ from G Sak have been uh Urban Forest

58:26 ↗ interns with us this year and it's been

58:28 ↗ great having them on board helping with

58:29 ↗ some of our green Isa events and they've

58:31 ↗ been out doing a lot of uh data

58:33 ↗ collection uh photographs you know kind

58:35 ↗ of putting together some you know kind

58:37 ↗ of fun facts on our uh existing Heritage

58:40 ↗ trees so we'll have a little bit of that

58:42 ↗ um but like I said that's at the end of

58:43 ↗ the slide deck if people want to kind of

58:45 ↗ see more visually what our trees are

58:47 ↗ look look like our heritage trees versus

58:49 ↗ the bolded list we have on our website

58:51 ↗ which is a little uh Bland but uh the

58:54 ↗ kind of talk about the process how

58:55 ↗ Heritage trees are nominated and

58:57 ↗ selected currently and that'll

58:59 ↗ definitely be kind of the what I hope to

59:01 ↗ be the main part of the discussion uh is

59:03 ↗ you know how we can kind of update and

59:04 ↗ modify that you know and kind of reframe

59:07 ↗ some of the goals of the program and you

59:08 ↗ know potential modifications so really

59:10 ↗ looking for feedback from the

59:12 ↗ environmental board ultimately we would

59:13 ↗ be proposing recommendations to to you

59:16 ↗ know change or modify this program and

59:18 ↗ the Park Board in our city code uh you

59:20 ↗ know would essentially uh vote on to

59:22 ↗ approve those uh you know or or amend

59:24 ↗ those recommendations so I'm hoping to

59:27 ↗ have that back to the park board within

59:28 ↗ the first couple months of the new year

59:30 ↗ and if this is something the

59:30 ↗ environmental board will be would want

59:32 ↗ to be consulted on again before then

59:33 ↗ that's great and I know right now I

59:35 ↗ don't think we have that on the calendar

59:36 ↗ for sure but that's something we can

59:38 ↗ definitely uh consider too so um next

59:42 ↗ slide

59:43 ↗ please so uh hopefully if you're

59:45 ↗ familiar like I said we've had a

59:46 ↗ Heritage tree program and is AA since

59:48 ↗ 205 started by the park board um we

59:51 ↗ haven't actually uh well I I should

59:53 ↗ probably changed that last bullet point

59:55 ↗ we haven't actually awarded a Heritage

59:57 ↗ tree since 2012 I think technically some

59:59 ↗ have been nominated uh but anyway in

1:00:02 ↗ many cities around the nation you know

1:00:03 ↗ trees are recognized for their

1:00:04 ↗ significance in the community um you

1:00:06 ↗ know really intended to you know

1:00:08 ↗ recognize celebrate and educate and I

1:00:10 ↗ think you know that last one is probably

1:00:12 ↗ the the easiest thing we could be doing

1:00:13 ↗ a lot better job is you know using this

1:00:15 ↗ program to you know better awareness

1:00:17 ↗ around some of the unique tree tree

1:00:19 ↗ species uh um or individual specimens we

1:00:22 ↗ have um but then you know really kind of

1:00:25 ↗ getting into the nuts and bolts of how

1:00:26 ↗ how that's selected what that means in

1:00:28 ↗ terms of tree protection um you know I

1:00:30 ↗ think the education the celebration are

1:00:32 ↗ the things we we want to be doing a

1:00:33 ↗ better job back but just want to make

1:00:34 ↗ sure this program is kind of up and

1:00:37 ↗ running how we uh um you know in kind of

1:00:40 ↗ the most efficient way here and also um

1:00:44 ↗ yeah we'll get into some of the details

1:00:46 ↗ in terms of our current criteria on the

1:00:48 ↗ next slide here um or sorry a couple

1:00:50 ↗ slides for now so we currently have

1:00:52 ↗ 24 uh recorded Heritage trees a few of

1:00:54 ↗ them have come down uh since they were

1:00:57 ↗ nominated in the last couple decades so

1:00:59 ↗ essentially all these were nominated and

1:01:01 ↗ selected between 2005 in

1:01:03 ↗ 2012 um we have collected more recent

1:01:05 ↗ information on um you know the the

1:01:08 ↗ diameter of breast height try to get

1:01:09 ↗ photos I believe this is the sey at

1:01:12 ↗ Gilman Village right here kind of

1:01:14 ↗ looking up in the canopy so the next two

1:01:15 ↗ slides are just kind of quick examples

1:01:17 ↗ of the type of trees we have I think

1:01:20 ↗ maybe most of you are familiar with the

1:01:21 ↗ genko tree we have uh on Front Street

1:01:24 ↗ next to uh near coffee Sutra um kind of

1:01:27 ↗ the dollar store a few of those things I

1:01:30 ↗ I just learned that this was you know

1:01:32 ↗ originally planted by doc Gibson the

1:01:33 ↗ first mayor of isqua so this tree goes

1:01:35 ↗ back 130 years or so um three and a half

1:01:40 ↗ feet plus diameter it's a female

1:01:42 ↗ specimen which if folks don't know about

1:01:44 ↗ Geno trees they have male and female

1:01:47 ↗ um some trees have both sexual organs

1:01:51 ↗ these are separate inos have either male

1:01:53 ↗ or female the female the the fruit is

1:01:55 ↗ not always the best odor so they're not

1:01:57 ↗ planted as much but I'm not sure we knew

1:01:59 ↗ that back when this tree was planted but

1:02:01 ↗ um yeah it's a really really beautiful

1:02:03 ↗ tree and this was actually the first uh

1:02:05 ↗ Heritage tree nominated and selected in

1:02:06 ↗ 2005 and then the next one I think most

1:02:09 ↗ of you will be aware of to is our big

1:02:11 ↗ tree uh Ruth Key's big tree on tradition

1:02:13 ↗ Plateau thought to be the biggest tree

1:02:15 ↗ in isqua or at least in you know within

1:02:17 ↗ City Limits um that sign which is a

1:02:20 ↗ little outdated too I think measures the

1:02:22 ↗ diameter at you know 7.8 feet so that's

1:02:24 ↗ definitely grown since that sign's gone

1:02:25 ↗ up it's CL 8 and half ft now um you know

1:02:28 ↗ estimated to be over 500 years old um

1:02:31 ↗ and you know named after uh local

1:02:33 ↗ environmentalist Ruth Keys uh in the

1:02:34 ↗ early 2000s so like I said we have a

1:02:37 ↗ bunch more slides like this at the end

1:02:38 ↗ of the presentation if you're interested

1:02:39 ↗ to see but just kind of giving you a

1:02:41 ↗ little snapshot of of you know a couple

1:02:43 ↗ of our heritage trees uh within the city

1:02:46 ↗ um as as currently in our

1:02:49 ↗ program so I shared this in the agenda

1:02:52 ↗ packet you know essentially there's a

1:02:54 ↗ little two-page PDF that was created at

1:02:57 ↗ the start of this program that I I don't

1:02:58 ↗ think's really been updated and it has

1:03:00 ↗ you know the name of the property owner

1:03:02 ↗ um person nominating is different from

1:03:04 ↗ the property owner we do require a

1:03:07 ↗ signature from that property owner I

1:03:09 ↗ think one of the big questions is you

1:03:10 ↗ know my understanding in the past and

1:03:12 ↗ some of you that have been around the

1:03:13 ↗ city a little bit longer Alan Haywood

1:03:15 ↗ was a City Arborist for quite some time

1:03:17 ↗ and I think he nominated the bulk of

1:03:19 ↗ these trees um the park board

1:03:21 ↗ essentially recommends them for approval

1:03:23 ↗ and then they get um you know officially

1:03:25 ↗ included in the program by a um

1:03:27 ↗ Proclamation by the mayor uh

1:03:30 ↗ so I think there are some questions who

1:03:34 ↗ that responsibility should fall on for

1:03:35 ↗ for public uh public lands and then you

1:03:38 ↗ know some questions about what that

1:03:39 ↗ means for tree protection and some of

1:03:41 ↗ the limitations on private land um you

1:03:43 ↗ know whether we're incentivizing or

1:03:45 ↗ maybe de incentivizing people from

1:03:46 ↗ wanting to participate in this program

1:03:48 ↗ with some of kind of the added

1:03:50 ↗ protections that Heritage trees bring

1:03:51 ↗ and I'll talk about that here in just a

1:03:53 ↗ second so you can kind of see the steps

1:03:55 ↗ uh fills out the sheet kind of the left

1:03:57 ↗ we we've had this on a fixed schedule of

1:03:58 ↗ September 1st I've heard feedback from

1:04:00 ↗ the park board that they would prefer to

1:04:02 ↗ have this more rolling and definitely

1:04:03 ↗ more lead time it sounds like in the

1:04:04 ↗ past often the trees were presented

1:04:07 ↗ maybe weeks before and really didn't you

1:04:08 ↗ know may have enough time or kind of

1:04:10 ↗ information on those trees and was kind

1:04:12 ↗ of just pushed through a little quickly

1:04:14 ↗ um but then it is reviewed and acted

1:04:16 ↗ upon by the city park board and then

1:04:17 ↗ it's approved um property owner will be

1:04:20 ↗ acknowledged and a mayoral Proclamation

1:04:22 ↗ at a city council meeting the next slide

1:04:25 ↗ gets into um this is kind of the back

1:04:27 ↗ page of that two-page pamphlet um the

1:04:31 ↗ categories we have uh our size or age

1:04:33 ↗ which is pretty standard in Heritage

1:04:35 ↗ tree programs uh you know that the

1:04:37 ↗ Douglas fur would be a good example of

1:04:39 ↗ that we have what we think is the

1:04:40 ↗ biggest sick of spruce in the valley uh

1:04:42 ↗ in our heritage tree program which is

1:04:44 ↗ kind of over by Sycamore neighborhood uh

1:04:46 ↗ we have historic significance and we'll

1:04:48 ↗ talk about this in a couple slides uh I

1:04:50 ↗ think a glaring emission here and you

1:04:52 ↗ know once again this is in hindsight but

1:04:54 ↗ um you know this was put together 20

1:04:55 ↗ years ago is no really acknowledgement

1:04:58 ↗ of tribal Traditions or culture in in

1:05:01 ↗ historic we think that would be

1:05:03 ↗ something we would add here instead of

1:05:04 ↗ creating another category but that's

1:05:06 ↗ something that if people have opinions

1:05:07 ↗ on we' be curious to hear but you know

1:05:09 ↗ this is really looking at notable

1:05:11 ↗ because of association with early

1:05:12 ↗ settlers or historic event uh so we'll

1:05:15 ↗ talk a little bit about culturally

1:05:16 ↗ modified trees uh in a couple slides and

1:05:18 ↗ then ecological value I mean I have a

1:05:20 ↗ little harder time pinpointing any of

1:05:22 ↗ our existing trees that fit this

1:05:24 ↗ category but looking at you know notable

1:05:26 ↗ trees provide special ecological benefit

1:05:28 ↗ not commonly seen in the area um so we

1:05:31 ↗ kind of talk about how you can nominate

1:05:33 ↗ it this is another thing we have a limit

1:05:35 ↗ of you can nominate as many as you want

1:05:37 ↗ a year but only three can be selected um

1:05:40 ↗ other cities have Groves or collections

1:05:42 ↗ of trees so that's something I think to

1:05:43 ↗ kind of weigh and consider if we want to

1:05:46 ↗ acknowledge you know may not be an

1:05:47 ↗ individual but as a collection um they

1:05:50 ↗ might have you know some either

1:05:51 ↗ historical significance or just kind of

1:05:53 ↗ you know certain Aesthetics or

1:05:55 ↗ ecological function you know one that

1:05:57 ↗ certainly comes to my mind is the uh

1:05:59 ↗ clone redwoods that we planted at

1:06:01 ↗ parkpoint if people are familiar with

1:06:02 ↗ that we have about 10 clones of some of

1:06:04 ↗ the larger coastal redwoods um that was

1:06:07 ↗ part of a I forget the name of the

1:06:08 ↗ nonprofit that that project seven or

1:06:10 ↗ eight years ago um but you know to me

1:06:12 ↗ that would be a really great addition

1:06:14 ↗ but we would have to do that over three

1:06:16 ↗ years with our current um Protocols of

1:06:18 ↗ only selecting up to three a year a

1:06:21 ↗ little bit talk about the deadline I

1:06:22 ↗ mean this is a mailin form so a really

1:06:24 ↗ simple thing is we need to make this a

1:06:26 ↗ online form and something that's a

1:06:27 ↗ little bit more accessible hopefully a

1:06:29 ↗ little bit more engaging with the

1:06:30 ↗ current information we have um then it

1:06:32 ↗ kind of talks about you know being

1:06:34 ↗ identified in a registry which we pretty

1:06:36 ↗ much have a website we would like to be

1:06:37 ↗ this mapped public facing we'd like to

1:06:39 ↗ create some guided or you know

1:06:41 ↗ self-guided tours our interns are really

1:06:43 ↗ excited about doing maybe some video

1:06:45 ↗ especially in the spring as some of

1:06:46 ↗ these trees are kind of leafing out or

1:06:48 ↗ flowering um so like I said that the

1:06:49 ↗ education part is something that for

1:06:51 ↗ sure we want to improve on this uh I

1:06:53 ↗ think we're really kind of wanting to

1:06:54 ↗ hear feedback on that but certainly on

1:06:56 ↗ on process too um next slide Stacy

1:07:00 ↗ please so this is kind of getting into

1:07:02 ↗ the categories I guess we kind of

1:07:03 ↗ touched on this already so we don't

1:07:05 ↗ think we need to get into too much here

1:07:07 ↗ but these are our current categories um

1:07:09 ↗ that would be an update to our city code

1:07:11 ↗ to add a new category so I think the

1:07:13 ↗ easiest thing would be amending these

1:07:15 ↗ existing categories for instance I kind

1:07:16 ↗ of talked about historic looking at you

1:07:18 ↗ know maybe culturally modified trees or

1:07:20 ↗ other um you know tribal significant

1:07:22 ↗ trees and then that's kind another

1:07:24 ↗ conversation we'll have here in a slide

1:07:26 ↗ or two um so I think kind of some of the

1:07:30 ↗ goals is we'd like to add new trees I

1:07:32 ↗ mean I I you know I think there's some

1:07:33 ↗ really um easy wins out there to

1:07:36 ↗ continue to look at you know some

1:07:37 ↗ different species some different

1:07:39 ↗ locations some smaller Groves of trees

1:07:42 ↗ uh so I mean that's a pretty obvious but

1:07:43 ↗ uh you know um clear goal that we have

1:07:47 ↗ um process of nomination we've kind of

1:07:48 ↗ talked about a little bit already um who

1:07:50 ↗ who is essentially signing that off on

1:07:52 ↗ on public land um

1:07:54 ↗ do we want to keep a limit do we want to

1:07:56 ↗ you know think about Groves or

1:07:57 ↗ collections of trees walking tours that

1:07:59 ↗ would probably be that could be kind of

1:08:00 ↗ frame more as the education side I've

1:08:02 ↗ been talking about uh but the last one I

1:08:04 ↗ want to focus on this slide mainly is is

1:08:06 ↗ tree protection so uh in the update of

1:08:09 ↗ Title 18 if folks remember I'll admit I

1:08:11 ↗ had to talk to Dan Martinez about this

1:08:13 ↗ because I don't for sure remember this

1:08:14 ↗ coming to the environmental board as we

1:08:16 ↗ were reviewing this maybe some of you do

1:08:17 ↗ better than I do but um you know

1:08:20 ↗ essentially we have two ways trees can

1:08:22 ↗ be removed through you know a tree

1:08:23 ↗ permit removal meaning there's no

1:08:25 ↗ development nothing else going on um so

1:08:28 ↗ in our code it is prohibited to remove

1:08:30 ↗ Heritage trees but you can obtain a tree

1:08:33 ↗ removal permit if it's deemed a nuisance

1:08:35 ↗ tree or a hazard tree and there's a

1:08:37 ↗ couple other exceptions I think around

1:08:38 ↗ solar installations and and thinning

1:08:41 ↗ which that's an interesting one to me

1:08:42 ↗ because I don't know you know why you'd

1:08:43 ↗ be thinning out a historic tree other

1:08:45 ↗ trees but there's about four exceptions

1:08:47 ↗ and I did provide the link for that in

1:08:50 ↗ the agenda packet if you want to

1:08:51 ↗ specifically read Our Heritage tree code

1:08:53 ↗ so essentially that's no different than

1:08:55 ↗ our existing trees in terms of the tree

1:08:56 ↗ removal permit in terms of removing them

1:08:59 ↗ that protection is is about the same as

1:09:01 ↗ our kind of added protections we put

1:09:03 ↗ into the updated title 18 the really big

1:09:05 ↗ difference is this doesn't allow these

1:09:07 ↗ trees to be removed as part of

1:09:08 ↗ development or Redevelopment projects

1:09:10 ↗ either so that is something that I know

1:09:13 ↗ has come up a little bit even in some of

1:09:14 ↗ our park properties and you know as I

1:09:16 ↗ mentioned does that de incentivize

1:09:18 ↗ people from wanting to sign up this

1:09:19 ↗ program on their own private property

1:09:21 ↗ too right now I think we only have

1:09:24 ↗ three Heritage trees that are on single

1:09:26 ↗ family home private property and there a

1:09:29 ↗ collection of three Baro trees in the

1:09:31 ↗ siore neighborhood and then we have a

1:09:32 ↗ couple that are technically on private

1:09:34 ↗ property but commercial private property

1:09:36 ↗ um so that's that's a big question we

1:09:38 ↗ have too is you know if this is a

1:09:41 ↗ program just meant to celebrate

1:09:42 ↗ recognize you know do we want to kind of

1:09:45 ↗ have that kind of added protection there

1:09:47 ↗ um this was something that like I said

1:09:49 ↗ was I think there was feedback you know

1:09:51 ↗ from the community that they they wanted

1:09:52 ↗ to see a little bit more of this

1:09:54 ↗ protection for Heritage trees but um I

1:09:56 ↗ Adit the park board didn't seem as

1:09:59 ↗ confident wanting to be the ones

1:10:01 ↗ ultimately making those decisions or

1:10:02 ↗ recommendations and I think that's where

1:10:04 ↗ it maybe needs to to some extent filter

1:10:06 ↗ through me our Park planning manager

1:10:08 ↗ possibly our Park director so I mean I

1:10:10 ↗ think those are the things we're

1:10:11 ↗ figuring out but are certainly open to

1:10:13 ↗ you know kind of feedback or thoughts

1:10:15 ↗ there um so just just to make it really

1:10:17 ↗ clear yes it it is the biggest

1:10:19 ↗ difference on on development projects um

1:10:21 ↗ you can remove significant trees

1:10:23 ↗ Landmark trees and that's where we were

1:10:24 ↗ kind of talking about some of our tree

1:10:26 ↗ canopy retention or replacement goals

1:10:28 ↗ that we need to meet but uh that would

1:10:30 ↗ not apply for for Heritage trees uh

1:10:33 ↗ something that came up and I I didn't

1:10:34 ↗ have this answer for sure with the park

1:10:35 ↗ board so I need to get back to them but

1:10:37 ↗ that is not deeded into a property

1:10:39 ↗ there's nothing in our code that allows

1:10:41 ↗ that so if someone moves or sells that

1:10:43 ↗ property that's kind of something too is

1:10:45 ↗ that still a Heritage tree but then

1:10:47 ↗ doesn't have that develop you know

1:10:48 ↗ that's something we need to sort out too

1:10:49 ↗ but there's nothing that you know

1:10:51 ↗ essentially makes that in the deed when

1:10:53 ↗ you would sell your home that has a

1:10:54 ↗ Heritage tree essentially would probably

1:10:56 ↗ be needing to ask that new property

1:10:57 ↗ owner to sign off on uh that you know

1:11:01 ↗ continuing on on their property so uh we

1:11:04 ↗ have none where that's the case so far

1:11:06 ↗ like I said those three bar o trees is

1:11:07 ↗ still the same family that's been living

1:11:09 ↗ there since I think 2010 when they were

1:11:11 ↗ nominated uh and then same with the

1:11:13 ↗ commercial properties Gilman Village and

1:11:15 ↗ um Front Street where the Geno tree is

1:11:18 ↗ so uh I think the last slide we have is

1:11:21 ↗ kind of culturally modified trees I'm

1:11:22 ↗ sure there'll be questions or comments

1:11:23 ↗ on that last one okay so sorry a couple

1:11:26 ↗ Grove nomination you know should we

1:11:28 ↗ should we be considering Groves or

1:11:29 ↗ collections of trees uh the middle one I

1:11:31 ↗ think is pretty obvious but we need to

1:11:32 ↗ do some website updates we need to make

1:11:34 ↗ this more engaging pictures fun facts

1:11:37 ↗ you know maps of Heritage trees that are

1:11:39 ↗ publicly available uh possibly little

1:11:41 ↗ signs or plaques that people could then

1:11:43 ↗ you know whether it's a QR code connect

1:11:45 ↗ back to our website uh so like I said I

1:11:47 ↗ think those are the the the kind of easy

1:11:49 ↗ easy pickings um and it's really kind of

1:11:51 ↗ the nomination and S process that we

1:11:53 ↗ need to

1:11:54 ↗ make sure we feel good about uh before

1:11:56 ↗ we jump start this program again uh and

1:11:58 ↗ then cmts for for people I've been

1:12:00 ↗ mentioning the term culturally modified

1:12:01 ↗ trees some people might have followed in

1:12:03 ↗ North Seattle with one of the cedar

1:12:05 ↗ trees that was you know slated to be

1:12:07 ↗ developed and removed and they think

1:12:09 ↗ that was maybe a wayfinding tree for

1:12:11 ↗ indigenous people in the area Luma Luma

1:12:14 ↗ yes yes thank you um so we don't know

1:12:17 ↗ for sure if we have culturally modified

1:12:18 ↗ trees in city limits um I think there's

1:12:21 ↗ a broader question I I think there's

1:12:22 ↗ certainly an interest for this to be

1:12:24 ↗ included um I've been on a couple

1:12:25 ↗ meetings with um the snowy tribe staff

1:12:29 ↗ on uh they actually have a grant to

1:12:31 ↗ train Municipal Foresters like myself on

1:12:34 ↗ the identification of or at least

1:12:36 ↗ learning how to you know figure out what

1:12:38 ↗ might possibly be a culturally modified

1:12:40 ↗ tree and then work with the tribes to

1:12:41 ↗ kind of confirm and document that I

1:12:43 ↗ think that's a tricky one because I

1:12:44 ↗ think I'm just assuming there'll be kind

1:12:46 ↗ of consensus that we want to add

1:12:47 ↗ something like that to our program but

1:12:49 ↗ then what does that mean in terms of

1:12:51 ↗ publicizing it what does that mean in

1:12:52 ↗ terms of documenting that to the public

1:12:54 ↗ because that might be something we

1:12:55 ↗ really just want to follow the tribes uh

1:12:57 ↗ lead on what sort of information they

1:12:58 ↗ want out there on these trees that's

1:13:01 ↗ that's a tricky one too because if it's

1:13:02 ↗ a program that's meant to celebrate

1:13:03 ↗ recognize you know does this fit you

1:13:06 ↗ know are we doing this to have that you

1:13:07 ↗ know maybe added layer of protection uh

1:13:10 ↗ you know just exactly how that fits in

1:13:11 ↗ the puzzle here but that's something

1:13:12 ↗ that there's been a lot of interest uh

1:13:14 ↗ in and um speaking with with um tribal

1:13:18 ↗ staff that they uh you know would love

1:13:20 ↗ to see this be more uh included in in

1:13:23 ↗ programs like this in the region so um

1:13:26 ↗ think we have one last specific slide un

1:13:28 ↗ culturally modified trees if people want

1:13:29 ↗ more context I sent a link that has like

1:13:31 ↗ a little bit of a primer you can see a

1:13:33 ↗ cedar bark stripping uh in the middle

1:13:35 ↗ tree there a common practice um yeah

1:13:38 ↗ trees are modified by indigenous people

1:13:40 ↗ as part of their Traditions they are

1:13:41 ↗ often viewed as sacred memorials living

1:13:44 ↗ archaeology um and you know kind of the

1:13:46 ↗ suggestion that that cmts could be added

1:13:48 ↗ Under the Umbrella of Heritage trees

1:13:50 ↗ with um the historical category so

1:13:53 ↗ potential improvements to our current

1:13:55 ↗ program so um yeah that's where I'll

1:13:58 ↗ leave it off with this presentation and

1:13:59 ↗ and see if there's questions or comments

1:14:02 ↗ um that's one of the willow trees at

1:14:04 ↗ Pickering Barn weaving willow trees

1:14:06 ↗ that's on our heritage tree

1:14:09 ↗ list two questions for can you go back

1:14:11 ↗ two

1:14:17 ↗ slides nomination categories yeah I

1:14:20 ↗ think your questions were around should

1:14:21 ↗ you include Groves of trees

1:14:24 ↗ cly Groves or collections yes colle one

1:14:26 ↗ of the oldest Groves of trees is I

1:14:28 ↗ believe out Utah it's quaking ASP

1:14:32 ↗ ,000

1:14:33 ↗ growing the other one was a culturally

1:14:35 ↗ modified yeah if you can find them that

1:14:38 ↗ would be great and another just a

1:14:40 ↗ general comment you mentioned it earlier

1:14:42 ↗ it's it's difficult to do a Heritage

1:14:44 ↗ tree program on private property because

1:14:46 ↗ people get scared that market Heritage

1:14:48 ↗ tree it's going to be hard to develop

1:14:49 ↗ that property going forward just

1:14:51 ↗ consider that As you move into this

1:14:54 ↗ other cities have weighed pros and cons

1:14:56 ↗ so yeah do you have any I don't have

1:14:59 ↗ thoughts or opinions personally I've

1:15:01 ↗ never done okay okay so that sounds like

1:15:04 ↗ that that was added in our recent Title

1:15:06 ↗ 18 update and obviously you know that'd

1:15:10 ↗ be a pretty quick retraction of it if

1:15:12 ↗ that's what we decide to do but at the

1:15:13 ↗ same time we should you know make sure

1:15:14 ↗ we feel good about a program like this

1:15:16 ↗ and whether that's the right fit for

1:15:18 ↗ treat protection got on public property

1:15:21 ↗ I tag them yeah

1:15:31 ↗ yeah one of the things that I struggle

1:15:33 ↗ with a little bit is understand like do

1:15:35 ↗ we have a a mission statement for the

1:15:38 ↗ Heritage tree program like why does the

1:15:39 ↗ Heritage tree program exist and I think

1:15:41 ↗ we kind of have since that three what is

1:15:43 ↗ it

1:15:45 ↗ the

1:15:47 ↗ recognize

1:15:48 ↗ educate is that yeah so I put that in

1:15:50 ↗ there yeah recognize celebrate educate

1:15:52 ↗ yeah I think if you look at our website

1:15:54 ↗ that that the mission statement is

1:15:56 ↗ essentially to celebrate the unique

1:15:58 ↗ trees uh significant or unique no not

1:16:01 ↗ significant I think you know there's

1:16:02 ↗ something on there that's you know

1:16:03 ↗ something about you essentially

1:16:04 ↗ celebrating the unique trees in our

1:16:06 ↗ community um so very

1:16:09 ↗ simple um I guess I'm just trying

1:16:12 ↗ like are we trying to save the biggest

1:16:17 ↗ trees are we trying to like I'm just

1:16:20 ↗ trying to understand what like what what

1:16:23 ↗ we hope comes out of this process I I I

1:16:26 ↗ I think my takeaway from and and our our

1:16:30 ↗ interns have been looking at a lot of

1:16:31 ↗ neighbor cities too is is it's really a

1:16:34 ↗ educational kind of celebratory program

1:16:36 ↗ it's meant to get people more excited

1:16:38 ↗ about trees and and and and learn you

1:16:40 ↗ know some of the history around

1:16:42 ↗ individual specimens and stuff like that

1:16:44 ↗ so I think that's at the base of it but

1:16:46 ↗ if we are setting these categories that

1:16:48 ↗ are you know meant to filter out 99

1:16:50 ↗ Point whatever percent of our other

1:16:52 ↗ trees you know and really kind of Select

1:16:54 ↗ this kind of unique uh

1:16:56 ↗ collection I think it's fair to think

1:16:58 ↗ about what that means for tree

1:16:59 ↗ protection too so um but that can

1:17:02 ↗ quickly maybe halt the progress of of a

1:17:04 ↗ of a program like this growing I say

1:17:06 ↗ even on on public land areas where you

1:17:08 ↗ know we may not have a master plan or

1:17:11 ↗ there maybe thought you know that there

1:17:12 ↗ might be reservations on on that too I

1:17:14 ↗ can't I'm not speaking for anything

1:17:15 ↗ specific but I I do know I get a sense

1:17:17 ↗ of that from from Parks or from um

1:17:21 ↗ public land managers here in the city

1:17:24 ↗ yeah because I mean that that's helpful

1:17:26 ↗ because that that does beg the question

1:17:28 ↗ of like do we like is the do we want to

1:17:31 ↗ reduce the barrier to getting trees into

1:17:33 ↗ the program if it's more about like

1:17:35 ↗ getting the public excited about

1:17:37 ↗ trees we have 24 now we probably need

1:17:40 ↗ more obviously the education side is

1:17:42 ↗ important like making it easier to find

1:17:44 ↗ them but

1:17:47 ↗ like yeah it seems like finding ways to

1:17:51 ↗ and there's like tradeoffs of that

1:17:53 ↗ obviously we don't want all every

1:17:54 ↗ Heritage tree to be cut down either but

1:17:56 ↗ that um I don't know that that that's a

1:17:59 ↗ a tricky one I don't I don't have a good

1:18:01 ↗ answer but it does seem like if the goal

1:18:03 ↗ is getting people excited about trees

1:18:05 ↗ help helping people see the amazing

1:18:07 ↗ trees that might be kind of right around

1:18:10 ↗ the corner they' never seen before

1:18:12 ↗ thought to look at then I think there's

1:18:14 ↗ plenty we can add that that's not a

1:18:15 ↗ conflict just to be clear too I don't

1:18:17 ↗ think this but it it has and will come

1:18:19 ↗ up

1:18:21 ↗ um

1:18:26 ↗ organiz a tree tour oh go

1:18:30 ↗ ahead goad so I had a question

1:18:33 ↗ Associated kind of with what jie was

1:18:36 ↗ asking so I'm curious to know and I can

1:18:39 ↗ see private property owner will have

1:18:42 ↗ hesitation you know uh nominating a

1:18:46 ↗ Heritage on their property primarily

1:18:49 ↗ because and I'm unaware of this so I

1:18:51 ↗ wanted to know what will be the

1:18:53 ↗ responsibilities you know put on the

1:18:54 ↗ owner if they have a Heritage Tree on

1:18:57 ↗ their property besides just not cutting

1:18:59 ↗ it down are there any other

1:19:01 ↗ responsibilities they have where they

1:19:03 ↗ have to maintain and make sure you know

1:19:06 ↗ the tree is safe and thriving and

1:19:10 ↗ because I mean I think that puts a

1:19:12 ↗ little bit of responsibility in the

1:19:13 ↗ property owners and that's where I can

1:19:15 ↗ see the hesitation will come in yeah

1:19:18 ↗ there there's no real clear

1:19:20 ↗ responsibilities I mean that came up in

1:19:22 ↗ a conversation with the artboard is

1:19:23 ↗ certainly trees that are being nominated

1:19:25 ↗ having some sort of a assessment because

1:19:28 ↗ we don't want to nominate a tree that

1:19:29 ↗ looks like it might fail in five or 10

1:19:31 ↗ years and we have to go through a tricky

1:19:32 ↗ removal process or something like that

1:19:34 ↗ so I think there could be an argument

1:19:36 ↗ made for our existing trees you know

1:19:38 ↗ essentially having some assessments you

1:19:40 ↗ know to see if there are kind of

1:19:42 ↗ Maintenance approaches to extend the

1:19:43 ↗ longevity or health of those trees um

1:19:45 ↗ but but right now no there's really no

1:19:47 ↗ added requirements to um be be doing any

1:19:51 ↗ sort of maintenance um activities just

1:19:54 ↗ like I said it's really just the removal

1:19:56 ↗ considerations and you can still REM

1:19:58 ↗ remove one on a private property but you

1:20:00 ↗ would have to have a Isa certified or

1:20:02 ↗ certified Arborist to you know you know

1:20:05 ↗ declare that that's a hazard tree it's

1:20:07 ↗ posing an imminent threat to you know

1:20:09 ↗ people or property or a nuisance tree

1:20:11 ↗ it's just grown so big that's just

1:20:12 ↗ entirely busting up utilities or

1:20:14 ↗ something like that so I mean those

1:20:16 ↗ those do exist um but if you wanted to

1:20:20 ↗ just you know build a sport court or

1:20:23 ↗ something your backyard and that tree is

1:20:24 ↗ there you couldn't do that um so then I

1:20:28 ↗ just heard one more comment I think this

1:20:29 ↗ is a great program I I kind of knew

1:20:32 ↗ about it but I didn't know so many

1:20:33 ↗ details about it um personally I think

1:20:36 ↗ this is a great program and I can see

1:20:40 ↗ certain ways you know you can

1:20:41 ↗ incorporate more community outreach on

1:20:44 ↗ this like um I know we have City tools

1:20:47 ↗ or things like that where you know you

1:20:48 ↗ can inform or include the Heritage team

1:20:52 ↗ programs

1:20:53 ↗ um I know the city does some school

1:20:56 ↗ camps like summer camps and all that for

1:20:59 ↗ kids so you know this could be one of

1:21:01 ↗ the things included I have seen more and

1:21:04 ↗ more environmental friendly summer camps

1:21:07 ↗ or School camps coming up this would be

1:21:10 ↗ a great way to introduce and you know

1:21:11 ↗ kids would love these kinds of field

1:21:13 ↗ trips so I think this is a great idea

1:21:17 ↗ thank

1:21:19 ↗ you go ahead thank you um I'm gonna

1:21:22 ↗ start by saying that in previous

1:21:24 ↗ discussions about the Heritage program

1:21:26 ↗ um when I was with the planning policy

1:21:28 ↗ commission you're on the right track as

1:21:30 ↗ far as what questions we were asking um

1:21:32 ↗ I was a little disappointed that I

1:21:34 ↗ didn't have more answers for this

1:21:35 ↗ presentation and so it's easy for me to

1:21:37 ↗ say yeah I'd love to see this again

1:21:38 ↗ because these are the questions that

1:21:40 ↗ we've asked for years and been told put

1:21:43 ↗ a pin in that we're not quite ready to

1:21:44 ↗ deal with this and so especially um when

1:21:47 ↗ getting into the nitty-gritty of

1:21:48 ↗ protections there was out um there was

1:21:52 ↗ overwhelming uh response from the

1:21:54 ↗ community that they wanted this program

1:21:55 ↗ to not be hey look at our trees they

1:21:58 ↗ wanted it to have some type of impact

1:22:00 ↗ and we ask the city to say hey what does

1:22:03 ↗ this then mean right and so being able

1:22:05 ↗ to create code that said if you are

1:22:09 ↗ wanting to put let's say an Adu where

1:22:11 ↗ there is a Heritage tree being able to

1:22:13 ↗ say where can we then modify the code to

1:22:15 ↗ be able to work with individual owners

1:22:17 ↗ in a way that can be onerous right and

1:22:20 ↗ to be able to say how do we actually

1:22:22 ↗ create protections right how do we have

1:22:24 ↗ um leeway and how do we have kind of a

1:22:27 ↗ benefit for being a part of it maybe

1:22:28 ↗ that means that the city is regularly um

1:22:30 ↗ helping to survey your soil and as our

1:22:32 ↗ worse is coming in helping to maintain

1:22:34 ↗ your tree and kind of trying to

1:22:35 ↗ incentivize um homeowners and having

1:22:38 ↗ more private trees being a part of the

1:22:40 ↗ process so um it would be great to be

1:22:43 ↗ able to hear more especially I'm very

1:22:45 ↗ appreciative of you guys addressing the

1:22:46 ↗ problematic language right now and

1:22:48 ↗ having the tribe be able um to comment

1:22:50 ↗ on that and so I would love to have an

1:22:52 ↗ up dat on what um they come back with

1:22:54 ↗ and things like that so you guys are

1:22:55 ↗ really on the right track I'm excited to

1:22:57 ↗ see this program get back up and running

1:22:59 ↗ um couple comments things like um

1:23:02 ↗ because we've kind of been on a pause

1:23:03 ↗ being able if we want to stick to the

1:23:04 ↗ three a year to me that says we have

1:23:06 ↗ about a 45 Tree Bank that we could

1:23:08 ↗ create effectively right um and still

1:23:11 ↗ keeping those parameters if for some

1:23:12 ↗ reason those parameters still exist um

1:23:14 ↗ to be able to jump start it um and I

1:23:16 ↗ think that your discussion um too about

1:23:19 ↗ you know um on um public Lane and where

1:23:23 ↗ can a Heritage tree um be a factor so

1:23:25 ↗ right now I think it's on page nine it

1:23:26 ↗ talks about the selling of public lands

1:23:29 ↗ uh and so well then does that mean that

1:23:31 ↗ we can actually create protections for

1:23:34 ↗ our public lands to say no the city

1:23:36 ↗ isn't able to deem this as a resource

1:23:39 ↗ that can be sold and it needs to stay

1:23:40 ↗ within um the public trust because it's

1:23:42 ↗ been you know kind of talking about what

1:23:44 ↗ is that weight that it's given to the

1:23:45 ↗ Heritage Tre program um and again there

1:23:48 ↗ was really strong um recommendations at

1:23:51 ↗ that time that we give weight to the

1:23:53 ↗ program as much as we legally can um and

1:23:56 ↗ being able to kind of create ways for

1:23:58 ↗ the program to mean something more um in

1:24:01 ↗ our conversations about how is this tree

1:24:03 ↗ different than the tree next to it in a

1:24:06 ↗ sense right uh and so um I would also

1:24:08 ↗ say too in your discussion about Groves

1:24:11 ↗ you know it's an interesting question um

1:24:12 ↗ when you link them to culturally

1:24:14 ↗ modified trees because uh generally um

1:24:17 ↗ in the history of how we've seen

1:24:19 ↗ culturally modified trees be treated

1:24:21 ↗ Canada and Sweden are great examples um

1:24:24 ↗ of how um they've been exploring how to

1:24:26 ↗ be able to protect um their cult tree

1:24:28 ↗ modified trees and Groves actually tend

1:24:30 ↗ to be a way to protect culturally

1:24:31 ↗ modified trees from storms and when um

1:24:34 ↗ everything is clearcut around it you end

1:24:36 ↗ up then endangering the health of the

1:24:37 ↗ culturally modified tree and Canada

1:24:39 ↗ actually does a minimum of a 100 feet um

1:24:42 ↗ Zone around their culturally modified

1:24:44 ↗ trees and so that's something else to

1:24:45 ↗ think about is that what that means when

1:24:47 ↗ we find these Treasures how do we then

1:24:49 ↗ protect them and that means actually

1:24:51 ↗ creating a space for them to thrive um

1:24:54 ↗ so um I would also say that if you guys

1:24:57 ↗ are planning on showing these next

1:24:59 ↗ slides and things like that in other um

1:25:01 ↗ boards or commissions or in the public I

1:25:03 ↗ think there's a great space to be able

1:25:05 ↗ to um give more history about these um

1:25:08 ↗ and be able to kind of um cue the public

1:25:10 ↗ into what are culturally modified trees

1:25:12 ↗ why are they so important um because so

1:25:14 ↗ many have been lost um for longing over

1:25:16 ↗ the years and it's simply because of my

1:25:18 ↗ background and having a history degree

1:25:20 ↗ that I know about them and so being able

1:25:22 ↗ to make the public more aware of them I

1:25:24 ↗ think um is incredibly important um and

1:25:27 ↗ um rather than waiting for something

1:25:28 ↗ like Luma where we have to have such a

1:25:30 ↗ huge public um outpouring to be able to

1:25:33 ↗ protect something um from developers who

1:25:36 ↗ want to be able to do what's um most

1:25:39 ↗ advantageous to them rather than what is

1:25:41 ↗ able to be done because L is a great

1:25:42 ↗ example of something where we were able

1:25:44 ↗ to have both we can have the culturally

1:25:46 ↗ modified tree and weend housing it

1:25:48 ↗ wasn't it didn't need to be um what it

1:25:50 ↗ kind of exploded into and so how do we

1:25:52 ↗ actually get ahead of that in our own

1:25:54 ↗ Community I think is a really good um

1:25:56 ↗ example of how we could do better um I

1:25:59 ↗ think it's also um interesting to talk

1:26:01 ↗ about um with our culturally modified

1:26:03 ↗ trees um um kind of expanding too on

1:26:07 ↗ that about

1:26:08 ↗ um uh sorry um so I have a lot of notes

1:26:12 ↗ on it so I'm trying to condense it too

1:26:15 ↗ um of being able to kind of talk about

1:26:17 ↗ um this important this H being able to

1:26:19 ↗ honor this and kind of create wayfinding

1:26:21 ↗ and and within the parks department I

1:26:23 ↗ think it's a good way to acknowledge how

1:26:25 ↗ we kind of have um Trails um how we have

1:26:28 ↗ um important locations included in the

1:26:30 ↗ way that we talk about how we honor the

1:26:32 ↗ land um that we've been entrusted to to

1:26:34 ↗ help take care of and so I think it's an

1:26:36 ↗ fabulous opportunity for us to do better

1:26:38 ↗ than we have

1:26:40 ↗ before thank you Jo that was yeah yeah

1:26:43 ↗ and I really appreciate the context I

1:26:44 ↗ heard that a little bit through Dan

1:26:45 ↗ Martinez but I'll admit yeah like said I

1:26:47 ↗ I did not hear as much of that so that's

1:26:50 ↗ on some of the PPC kind of background

1:26:52 ↗ with with Heritage tree protection so

1:26:54 ↗ that's great it was definitely a lot of

1:26:55 ↗ put opin it we're not quite ready and so

1:26:57 ↗ it's awesome that we're ready and having

1:26:58 ↗ these conversations but I think we're

1:27:00 ↗ saying well how do we explore making

1:27:02 ↗ these choices and let's um kind of we

1:27:04 ↗ need to make a choice and see so it

1:27:05 ↗ definitely sounds like this is something

1:27:07 ↗ I think we'd want to bring back again to

1:27:09 ↗ this group early ideally early in the

1:27:10 ↗ new year with some actual

1:27:12 ↗ recommendations and hearing how how the

1:27:14 ↗ tribe feels

1:27:16 ↗ about when they're ready to yeah I don't

1:27:18 ↗ think they're quite there yeah the CNT

1:27:20 ↗ stuff specifically but

1:27:26 ↗ any other comments from the

1:27:29 ↗ board you have any questions for us Dan

1:27:32 ↗ I I think this is this is super helpful

1:27:34 ↗ like I said I mean I do think that makes

1:27:36 ↗ a lot of sense to to to bring this back

1:27:38 ↗ with some kind of tangible

1:27:39 ↗ recommendations of how we're going to

1:27:42 ↗ modify this program um I think I kind of

1:27:45 ↗ need to chat with this with some of my

1:27:46 ↗ Parks colleagues but um yeah I think

1:27:48 ↗ that's something we we want to get

1:27:49 ↗ moving on so I mean hopefully that's

1:27:51 ↗ something we can maybe come back back in

1:27:52 ↗ January or February um and get some

1:27:55 ↗ feedback there before taking it to the

1:27:57 ↗ parkboard for any sort of official

1:28:00 ↗ adoption say nice

1:28:03 ↗ work in the short time you've been in

1:28:05 ↗ that position you taken this a long way

1:28:08 ↗ well thanks thanks and then big thanks I

1:28:10 ↗ think they're still hanging in with us

1:28:11 ↗ but our our interns me and leani put

1:28:13 ↗ most of that last presentation together

1:28:14 ↗ so they they really have been awesome to

1:28:16 ↗ to work with here the last couple months

1:28:18 ↗ so um uh I I can make this one I know I

1:28:21 ↗ know we're a little behind schedule and

1:28:23 ↗ um so I I could make this one pretty

1:28:24 ↗ quick obviously if there's questions or

1:28:27 ↗ or feedback but this is really meant to

1:28:29 ↗ just be kind of a informational the next

1:28:31 ↗ handful of slides on um our Urban forest

1:28:33 ↗ team here within uh the city of isqua um

1:28:37 ↗ so I want to kind of cover our green

1:28:38 ↗ isal program which we've talked briefly

1:28:40 ↗ about through some of our other

1:28:41 ↗ conversations tonight uh some of the

1:28:43 ↗ Environmental Education work we're doing

1:28:45 ↗ our park ranger program and then just

1:28:48 ↗ some kind of General updates on what I'm

1:28:49 ↗ kind of broadly calling tree work

1:28:51 ↗ planting removal Runing um so yeah uh

1:28:54 ↗ that last slide if you don't know Alex

1:28:55 ↗ Anderson on the right is our park ranger

1:28:58 ↗ um Taylor Nichols is our green is a CO

1:29:00 ↗ volunteer coordinator uh it's halftime

1:29:02 ↗ position but that was also new uh

1:29:04 ↗ shortly after my position was created

1:29:06 ↗ earlier this year and then on the left

1:29:08 ↗ there is H Vera who was a seasonal park

1:29:10 ↗ ranger her term has ended with us but

1:29:12 ↗ she was on with us for about four or

1:29:13 ↗ five months over the over the summer so

1:29:16 ↗ out after an event at Confluence Park so

1:29:18 ↗ I'm going to start with green isqua and

1:29:20 ↗ I think most of you are familiar with

1:29:21 ↗ this program uh you know kind of started

1:29:23 ↗ with the the green cities model uh we

1:29:25 ↗ have a lot of green cities in our region

1:29:26 ↗ that was a program for Tera started the

1:29:28 ↗ city worked with for Tera to launch this

1:29:30 ↗ program um Fortera has really stepped

1:29:33 ↗ back from a lot of their on the ground

1:29:34 ↗ stewardship where green cities included

1:29:36 ↗ and that was one reason I believe you

1:29:39 ↗ know that we really looked at kind of

1:29:40 ↗ building out some of this stuff

1:29:42 ↗ internally um obviously talking about

1:29:43 ↗ Forest uh management planning and some

1:29:46 ↗ other stuff tonight uh but this this is

1:29:48 ↗ definitely you know a big part of what

1:29:49 ↗ myself and and Taylor are working on day

1:29:51 ↗ to today uh and really looking at

1:29:53 ↗ improving our Urban forest and Natural

1:29:55 ↗ Area Health uh really through

1:29:57 ↗ galvanizing uh you know informed and

1:29:59 ↗ involved a community uh stewardship

1:30:01 ↗ effort uh and you know ensuring that

1:30:03 ↗ long-term sustainability of forest and

1:30:04 ↗ parks and natural areas which we have

1:30:06 ↗ over, 1500 Acres of within City Limits

1:30:09 ↗ which is you know pushing 20% of our uh

1:30:11 ↗ land cover U so it's an REI group we had

1:30:14 ↗ out at confence Park early this year

1:30:16 ↗ doing some IV

1:30:18 ↗ removal so these are just kind of some

1:30:20 ↗ stats of where we're at

1:30:22 ↗ uh as of um almost the end of the

1:30:25 ↗ calendar year here um we've worked with

1:30:28 ↗ over 1100 volunteers uh we actually just

1:30:31 ↗ with Breen ISU which we still held this

1:30:33 ↗ past Saturday even with the weather we

1:30:35 ↗ had in the morning um we just rolled

1:30:36 ↗ over 3,000 volunteer hours again I'm

1:30:39 ↗ calling out an big thanks for his well

1:30:41 ↗ Trails Club being there and braving that

1:30:42 ↗ and canopy flipping over and everything

1:30:44 ↗ but um uh we're working with a lot of

1:30:47 ↗ businesses I mean REI of course steps up

1:30:49 ↗ huge they are regularly sending

1:30:50 ↗ employees out for work parties we've

1:30:52 ↗ made some progress working with Costco

1:30:53 ↗ which has really been excited they've

1:30:55 ↗ had three events along the Pickering

1:30:56 ↗ reach and looking to try to do quarterly

1:30:58 ↗ events with some of their staff um some

1:31:00 ↗ smaller businesses that aren't

1:31:01 ↗ necessarily based in isqua to but those

1:31:03 ↗ have been the big two that we've worked

1:31:05 ↗ with uh and then hosting public events

1:31:07 ↗ uh so those are led by Community

1:31:08 ↗ Partners like is welps Trails Club Mount

1:31:10 ↗ sound Greenway trust we're hoping to

1:31:11 ↗ work more with uh Alex and trout limited

1:31:14 ↗ and the lakes Mish Urban Wildlife Refuge

1:31:16 ↗ partnership next year on on a site on

1:31:18 ↗ tibits Creek uh and then our forest

1:31:20 ↗ stewards too hopefully people are

1:31:22 ↗ familiar with that but these are

1:31:23 ↗ dedicated recurring volunteer roles that

1:31:25 ↗ we train up uh volunteers to um you know

1:31:28 ↗ adopt an area within a park and and you

1:31:30 ↗ know kind of perform the uh stewardship

1:31:33 ↗ activities whether invas the species

1:31:34 ↗ removal planting um and they can you

1:31:36 ↗ know lead their own events or you know

1:31:38 ↗ work independently or kind of a mix of

1:31:40 ↗ both uh there's Leilani on the left me

1:31:42 ↗ on the right and that bottom right

1:31:44 ↗ picture there uh are two Gibs act

1:31:46 ↗ interns to that we uh uh first interns

1:31:48 ↗ with that school that we've sponsored

1:31:49 ↗ within the parks department and uh me

1:31:51 ↗ actually worked with Stacy last year I

1:31:53 ↗ believe so um so we talked a lot about

1:31:56 ↗ like the Hands-On kind of restoration

1:31:57 ↗ stewardship work but we're trying to

1:31:59 ↗ look at this more broadly as an

1:32:00 ↗ educational program too so Taylor's made

1:32:02 ↗ a great connection with Eastside aabon

1:32:04 ↗ we've uh started to host some bird walks

1:32:05 ↗ at Confluence Park uh we hosted our

1:32:08 ↗ first inperson Forest Steward training

1:32:10 ↗ back in uh August so you know our goal

1:32:12 ↗ in the 20-year plan was to get to 10

1:32:14 ↗ stewards by this year and we're actually

1:32:15 ↗ right there which is great uh we're

1:32:17 ↗ above our volunteer hour goal too for

1:32:19 ↗ for

1:32:20 ↗ 2023 um and said expanding educational

1:32:22 ↗ opportunities for Forest stewards we

1:32:24 ↗ just had a tree planting uh kind of 101

1:32:27 ↗ that um couple people in this room Jamie

1:32:29 ↗ and an were both at that one too so uh

1:32:32 ↗ and that's I guess a little out of date

1:32:33 ↗ we just had our Green oqua Day this past

1:32:36 ↗ Saturday um just just if people want to

1:32:39 ↗ get a quick this is you know from the

1:32:40 ↗ 20-year plan this is essentially

1:32:41 ↗ distribution of of parks uh managed uh

1:32:44 ↗ city city land throughout the city you

1:32:46 ↗ can kind of see a lot through the lower

1:32:48 ↗ Corridor along as Z creek and a lot of

1:32:50 ↗ the nrca or GPA e uh Native growth

1:32:54 ↗ protection areas kind of in the

1:32:55 ↗ Foothills um so that this is kind of how

1:32:57 ↗ our 15 1500 acres is distributed across

1:33:01 ↗ the city

1:33:02 ↗ limits the next slide please this one's

1:33:05 ↗ really hard to read I'm sorry but I

1:33:06 ↗ really like that Taylor kind of put this

1:33:08 ↗ together to see how those 3,000 hours

1:33:10 ↗ were kind of split up across Parks so um

1:33:13 ↗ a lot of that we've been doing a lot of

1:33:14 ↗ work at Confluence Park it's you know

1:33:16 ↗ working with volunteers sometimes it's

1:33:17 ↗ just easiest to have parking bathrooms

1:33:20 ↗ accessibility and really great story at

1:33:22 ↗ Confluence Park uh you know I I at least

1:33:24 ↗ I think so in terms of conservation and

1:33:27 ↗ restoration um you know the reneer trail

1:33:29 ↗ we've worked on a lot this year um Park

1:33:32 ↗ point is uh kind of that beigy brown

1:33:35 ↗ color on the left side there so um and

1:33:38 ↗ then some smaller Park areas like the

1:33:39 ↗ little Dogwood bridge on ISO Creek on

1:33:41 ↗ Dogwood Street there's a little maybe

1:33:43 ↗ Halfacre spot we have a forest Steward

1:33:45 ↗ working at so some smaller hours but

1:33:47 ↗ still really good impact too um the

1:33:49 ↗ naming conventions certainly get tricky

1:33:51 ↗ in the city but we try to follow as best

1:33:53 ↗ we can what we have in the 20-year

1:33:57 ↗ plan um so kind of pivoting to our park

1:34:00 ↗ ranger program um showed Alex Anderson

1:34:02 ↗ who's been with the city for about a

1:34:04 ↗ year now but this positions actually

1:34:05 ↗ goes back a couple years Peter Walters

1:34:07 ↗ was the ranger before Alex um and really

1:34:10 ↗ responsible for routine Patrol of uh

1:34:13 ↗ Parks properties trails and Open Spaces

1:34:15 ↗ you know addresses uh any sort of Park

1:34:17 ↗ use issues through uh you know being

1:34:19 ↗ present and and you know having those

1:34:21 ↗ interaction with the public uh he is

1:34:23 ↗ unarmed no law enforcement Authority

1:34:25 ↗ we're really talking about kind of those

1:34:27 ↗ roles in the bottom there enforcement

1:34:28 ↗ through education um so those might be

1:34:31 ↗ things like you know offley dogs um you

1:34:34 ↗ know you know especially in critical

1:34:35 ↗ areas we're trying to educate more about

1:34:37 ↗ during during salmon season um fire pits

1:34:40 ↗ gosh my goodness just how often we've

1:34:42 ↗ had little fires in Parks is really kind

1:34:43 ↗ of alarming and you know really trying

1:34:45 ↗ to work with public on that you know a

1:34:46 ↗ lot of this does tie to working with our

1:34:48 ↗ unhoused populations in isqua and uh you

1:34:51 ↗ know is really on the front line working

1:34:52 ↗ with our Human Services team uh on you

1:34:55 ↗ know providing services and uh you know

1:34:58 ↗ really really trying to work with people

1:35:00 ↗ that we do have you know temporarily

1:35:02 ↗ living in our Park systems um some Park

1:35:04 ↗ and trail maintenance and interpretation

1:35:06 ↗ outdoor education those are really kind

1:35:08 ↗ of the main roles for our our park

1:35:11 ↗ ranger this was his he does these great

1:35:13 ↗ quarterly reports we track all these

1:35:15 ↗ different contacts on our internal GIS

1:35:18 ↗ system uh so this was for essentially

1:35:21 ↗ kind of the summer quarter July through

1:35:22 ↗ September this year and you can see

1:35:24 ↗ contacts around illegal dumping offleash

1:35:26 ↗ dogs Vandal and graffiti comes up a fair

1:35:28 ↗ amount unfortunately uh homeless

1:35:30 ↗ Outreach a gosh it's amazing the amount

1:35:33 ↗ of trash and litter that we are pulling

1:35:34 ↗ out of our Parks uh you know estimated

1:35:36 ↗ over 2,000 pounds in that three months

1:35:38 ↗ right there that doesn't count a lot

1:35:40 ↗ that we've been helping coordinating

1:35:41 ↗ pulling out of the bellue forest uh

1:35:43 ↗ Bellevue College Forest property up in

1:35:45 ↗ the highlands um couple education

1:35:47 ↗ initiatives he's launched is leave no

1:35:49 ↗ Trace awareness hopefully maybe you see

1:35:50 ↗ more of that some of our Trail heads um

1:35:53 ↗ uh we're really trying to to do more

1:35:55 ↗ work with L&T uh bark Ranger program

1:35:58 ↗ which uh is trying to you know voluntary

1:36:00 ↗ compliance or at lease in scoop laws I

1:36:01 ↗ think it's bag your waste always know

1:36:05 ↗ where you're going uh respect Wildlife

1:36:08 ↗ oh I'm sorry I'm messing up the acronym

1:36:10 ↗ but it's it's a program national parks

1:36:12 ↗ established that we are trying to uh

1:36:14 ↗ adopt here even have little dog tags

1:36:16 ↗ that are bark Rangers that will hand out

1:36:18 ↗ to well behaved uh dog owners but um and

1:36:21 ↗ then a junior Ranger program too so

1:36:23 ↗ really trying to work with um summer

1:36:25 ↗ camps and and education stuff like that

1:36:27 ↗ too this this past uh

1:36:30 ↗ summer and then this one might have been

1:36:32 ↗ better looped right after the green Isa

1:36:33 ↗ slide I think this is kind of the last

1:36:35 ↗ one I wanted to touch on you know we

1:36:36 ↗ have our handson stewardship you know

1:36:38 ↗ doing the maintenance the Restoration in

1:36:40 ↗ our Parks but really trying to dive into

1:36:43 ↗ uh topics related to forestry or maybe

1:36:45 ↗ broadly natural resources so we've

1:36:48 ↗ between myself Taylor and Alex or people

1:36:50 ↗ we've helped lead some of these events

1:36:52 ↗ so you know kind of help coordinate

1:36:53 ↗ other people to come out and Lead events

1:36:54 ↗ we've had 28 what I consider

1:36:56 ↗ Environmental Education events so far

1:36:57 ↗ this year uh those are kind of some of

1:36:59 ↗ the topics there from Forest Health to

1:37:01 ↗ plant ID Salamon ecology carbon credits

1:37:04 ↗ uh you know kind of Park Rangers and

1:37:06 ↗ being good users of our Park system and

1:37:08 ↗ you know it's been almost 400 people

1:37:10 ↗ we've had involved in these programs and

1:37:12 ↗ kind of breakdown between uh Youth and

1:37:14 ↗ adults there in the bottom

1:37:16 ↗ so think that's oh okay sorry last last

1:37:20 ↗ section this an important one um tree

1:37:22 ↗ planting or kind of tree work the last

1:37:24 ↗ couple slides here so this is for 2023

1:37:26 ↗ keep in mind um I want to be very clear

1:37:29 ↗ it it's not meant to be misleading I

1:37:31 ↗ still think it's a really great staff

1:37:32 ↗ but you know we have planted over 22,000

1:37:34 ↗ trees this year in Parks but you know 90

1:37:37 ↗ plus percent of that was part of the

1:37:38 ↗ city's lower zuker Creek uh stream

1:37:40 ↗ restoration project across from CostCo

1:37:42 ↗ and Pickering Barn there and a lot of

1:37:44 ↗ those are smaller willow trees um so you

1:37:47 ↗ know they're not expected to have 100%

1:37:48 ↗ survival rate but you know still going

1:37:50 ↗ to provide some really good low canopy

1:37:52 ↗ cover right on the edges of viso Creek

1:37:54 ↗ with some larger trees and stuff a

1:37:56 ↗ little bit further out in the buffer um

1:37:58 ↗ that's you know another 17,000 native uh

1:38:00 ↗ shrubs and trees so yeah through green

1:38:03 ↗ as a through volunteers themselves we're

1:38:04 ↗ probably closer to about 2,000 uh native

1:38:06 ↗ plants this year and then you know this

1:38:08 ↗ doesn't include the three or 400 we just

1:38:10 ↗ put in in Green isqua Day and a couple

1:38:12 ↗ other events we have planned through the

1:38:13 ↗ end of November so hoping to get it up

1:38:15 ↗ upwards of another thousand uh native

1:38:17 ↗ plants installed before the end of this

1:38:18 ↗ year and and more in the new year as

1:38:20 ↗ well uh a shout out to Jamie and an for

1:38:23 ↗ attending our forest Steward kind of

1:38:25 ↗ planting training a couple weeks ago at

1:38:27 ↗ Confluence Park so you can critique your

1:38:30 ↗ colleagues planting uh techniques in

1:38:32 ↗ those photos um so tree removal and

1:38:34 ↗ pruning I think is the last slide here

1:38:36 ↗ and this is something too we we we are

1:38:39 ↗ required to track this as part of our

1:38:41 ↗ tree City USA uh um certification which

1:38:44 ↗ I think most of you know we've been part

1:38:45 ↗ of that program for over 30 years now I

1:38:47 ↗ think this was our 31st year um our

1:38:51 ↗ tracking sheet is something that I

1:38:52 ↗ really want to kind of update and modify

1:38:54 ↗ and have more subtleties to it as it

1:38:56 ↗ relates to um you know how we're kind of

1:38:58 ↗ managing trees here right now we have 65

1:39:00 ↗ trees removed but I do want to kind of

1:39:02 ↗ call out that you know almost half of

1:39:04 ↗ those 28 are trees like this and I don't

1:39:06 ↗ think even constitute tree removal

1:39:08 ↗ essentially it's tree maintenance where

1:39:09 ↗ we're trying to keep our Trail corridors

1:39:11 ↗ open and you know leave any of the rest

1:39:13 ↗ of the tree material on site a lot of

1:39:15 ↗ those trees are dead trees a lot of

1:39:16 ↗ those trees are recently planted trees

1:39:18 ↗ that you know just one way reason or

1:39:20 ↗ another didn't fit the site irrigation

1:39:22 ↗ maybe malfunction you know so this goes

1:39:24 ↗ really into the urban Forest management

1:39:25 ↗ plan where we need to be a little bit

1:39:26 ↗ more strategic about our plant

1:39:28 ↗ establishment or or growing trees as uh

1:39:30 ↗ Andrew and Chris were referring to um

1:39:33 ↗ but this is where I started collecting

1:39:35 ↗ this information and we'll intend to

1:39:36 ↗ going for but I don't have this for the

1:39:38 ↗ first few months of the year is you know

1:39:40 ↗ what were the size of these trees are we

1:39:41 ↗ talking about trees under six or eight

1:39:43 ↗ inches where it wouldn't require a tree

1:39:44 ↗ removal perit are we talking about

1:39:45 ↗ larger trees that have um died for for

1:39:48 ↗ other reasons um you know Western red

1:39:51 ↗ cedar or or Douglas fur uh there have

1:39:53 ↗ been a few larger trees so really of

1:39:55 ↗ those 65 there have been four living

1:39:57 ↗ trees that we've had assessments that

1:39:58 ↗ have been deemed either nuisance or

1:40:00 ↗ Hazard trees that we've removed within

1:40:02 ↗ park space uh this year um and then we

1:40:05 ↗ we are pruning a lot of trees some of

1:40:07 ↗ that is through sepad the crime

1:40:09 ↗ prevention through environmental design

1:40:10 ↗ so you know liming up trees for better

1:40:12 ↗ visibility in some of our Open Spaces uh

1:40:14 ↗ some of that is you know conflicts with

1:40:17 ↗ utilities or um power lines and things

1:40:20 ↗ like that keeping right ways open

1:40:21 ↗ sidewalks roads uh so tree Health

1:40:23 ↗ visibility Trail corridors is where we

1:40:25 ↗ do a lot of our tree pruning and U

1:40:27 ↗ myself and uh one of our Parks

1:40:29 ↗ operations staff was able to coordinate

1:40:31 ↗ a uh tree pruning training for our whole

1:40:33 ↗ Parks operations team and a few of the

1:40:35 ↗ staff with Public Work streets uh Team

1:40:38 ↗ uh in October with plant amnesty which

1:40:40 ↗ was great to just try to get into some

1:40:41 ↗ better habits around um our printing

1:40:44 ↗ techniques um so yeah something that we

1:40:46 ↗ really want to try to kind of improve

1:40:48 ↗ upon uh moving forward to so I think

1:40:51 ↗ that might be it

1:40:52 ↗ um yeah so any questions I love to put

1:40:54 ↗ this one together I've been leading a

1:40:56 ↗ couple tours the Restoration History of

1:40:58 ↗ Pickering Reef so that's the barn in

1:41:00 ↗ about the year 2000 right when we

1:41:02 ↗ started doing some restoration along

1:41:03 ↗ there in the upper corner you can see

1:41:05 ↗ that's actually one of our big leaf

1:41:07 ↗ maple Heritage trees and it's not

1:41:09 ↗ perfectly lined up but you can still see

1:41:11 ↗ that same kind of horizontal arm in the

1:41:13 ↗ top right of the picture I took back in

1:41:15 ↗ March or April of this year where you

1:41:16 ↗ can't even see the barn now with some of

1:41:18 ↗ the uh uh trees that you know have

1:41:21 ↗ planted and you know maintained through

1:41:22 ↗ that site and that's just you know kind

1:41:23 ↗ of a snippet of a larger area along

1:41:25 ↗ Pickering reach there so just kind of

1:41:28 ↗ close with a little before and after

1:41:30 ↗ there so yeah if there's any questions

1:41:32 ↗ um like I said this was really just kind

1:41:33 ↗ of update some of the stuff that we're

1:41:34 ↗ working on as a team but um happy to

1:41:38 ↗ answer questions or if there's any kind

1:41:39 ↗ of comments or

1:41:42 ↗ feedback uh I think we were on the board

1:41:45 ↗ at one point Dan um we talked a little

1:41:47 ↗ bit about other agencies that like to

1:41:49 ↗ prune trees in the city

1:41:51 ↗ CL around power lines and things like

1:41:54 ↗ that and I'm hoping that perhaps you

1:41:56 ↗ might be able to start conversations

1:41:58 ↗ about some of the effects and their

1:42:00 ↗ pruning

1:42:01 ↗ techniques um on the health of the trees

1:42:04 ↗ and what might be done

1:42:08 ↗ better absolutely that's a great great

1:42:10 ↗ comment

1:42:13 ↗ Nancy uh yeah I'm wondering on on

1:42:16 ↗ removal of trees to fall over trails are

1:42:18 ↗ you still using C click fix you like the

1:42:22 ↗ public to use SE fix absolutely yeah

1:42:25 ↗ please y or is there some preferred

1:42:28 ↗ methods or is that it C click fix is

1:42:31 ↗ great just so we kind of have records

1:42:32 ↗ and holding ourselves to you know some

1:42:34 ↗ of the time frames we have as part of

1:42:36 ↗ the service level could you explain uh

1:42:39 ↗ so so click fix is a uh software program

1:42:43 ↗ that a lot of cities use and essentially

1:42:45 ↗ it's a way for the public to report what

1:42:47 ↗ are meant to be kind of smaller needs or

1:42:50 ↗ incidents you know it's not like we need

1:42:52 ↗ a capital project here it's it's it's

1:42:54 ↗ meant you know yeah tree down sidewalk

1:42:56 ↗ issues litter graffiti we get those

1:42:58 ↗ things a lot Wildlife interactions yeah

1:43:02 ↗ so um you can go online you can submit

1:43:04 ↗ it anonymously you can submit it with

1:43:06 ↗ your contact information and it tracks

1:43:08 ↗ any comments that the city staff reports

1:43:10 ↗ back and essentially it's a tracking

1:43:12 ↗ system of being submitted being

1:43:13 ↗ acknowledged being in progress and then

1:43:15 ↗ being closed out and there's kind of

1:43:17 ↗ comments in each step of the way there

1:43:19 ↗ so it's just see trees down Trails you

1:43:21 ↗ can you can do that yes know where

1:43:23 ↗ you're at um well you can let if you're

1:43:25 ↗ doing it on your phone you can let it

1:43:27 ↗ you know track your location if not you

1:43:29 ↗ can take a photo and describe it as best

1:43:31 ↗ you can I mean I'll say operationally a

1:43:33 ↗ lot of the ones I deal with are I really

1:43:35 ↗ want to measure this someday but we have

1:43:37 ↗ many miles of forested parks that you

1:43:39 ↗ know are adjacent to private property

1:43:41 ↗ and you all know that and you know so

1:43:43 ↗ very regularly it's it's you know

1:43:44 ↗ questions or concerns about trees in a

1:43:47 ↗ city open space behind a home so um and

1:43:50 ↗ a lot of times it is determining whether

1:43:51 ↗ that's actually on city property or if

1:43:53 ↗ that's privately owned or a different

1:43:54 ↗ agency but um that comes through a lot

1:43:57 ↗ so yes I mean you all can email me

1:43:59 ↗ directly I think you have my contact or

1:44:01 ↗ no know where I'm at but um that's a

1:44:02 ↗ really great way to make sure we're kind

1:44:05 ↗ of accountable for following through

1:44:06 ↗ with those requests they don't just kind

1:44:09 ↗ of slip off in an email or something

1:44:10 ↗ like

1:44:11 ↗ that awesome I think it looks like we're

1:44:14 ↗ done here but Connie I believe this

1:44:17 ↗ would be a good time for

1:44:19 ↗ you

1:44:24 ↗ so I sent you all my uh

1:44:29 ↗ 2008 thing that finally is happening in

1:44:32 ↗ an urban Forest

1:44:34 ↗ plan uh so brilliant it only took a

1:44:39 ↗ little

1:44:40 ↗ while uh

1:44:42 ↗ the

1:44:44 ↗ barriers are being sort of

1:44:48 ↗ under spoken with this Urban Forest plan

1:44:52 ↗ so I'm going to I'm going to bring up

1:44:54 ↗ the barriers which are the city itself

1:44:58 ↗ that doesn't

1:45:00 ↗ necessarily want

1:45:01 ↗ to um there's no particular person in

1:45:07 ↗ charge whose responsibility it is to be

1:45:11 ↗ able to take care of the urban Force who

1:45:15 ↗ also has the

1:45:16 ↗ authority over all of the departments in

1:45:20 ↗ the city because Public Works has a

1:45:22 ↗ whole different feeling about trees and

1:45:25 ↗ the parks department part of it thinks

1:45:28 ↗ trees are great the other part doesn't

1:45:30 ↗ think trees are so great um and then you

1:45:33 ↗ have the

1:45:34 ↗ complications of protected private land

1:45:37 ↗ but it's supposed to be maintained in

1:45:40 ↗ open space in perpetuity so it's sort of

1:45:43 ↗ technically private land but it is

1:45:47 ↗ supposed to be have its forested

1:45:52 ↗ component and that is supposed to be

1:45:55 ↗ part of your Urban Forest you have your

1:45:59 ↗ homeowners association Open Spaces are a

1:46:02 ↗ great example of that right you say

1:46:05 ↗ Urban forest forest management plan you

1:46:08 ↗ are not saying it's a tree plant yet it

1:46:11 ↗ is being treated as a tree plant and a

1:46:13 ↗ forest is very different than trees a

1:46:17 ↗ forest has functions

1:46:21 ↗ that uh are

1:46:23 ↗ habitat oriented right and they create

1:46:26 ↗ systems within a city and so I was a

1:46:29 ↗ little Disturbed to have the concept of

1:46:32 ↗ a forest system be light because that is

1:46:35 ↗ the under story that is the animals that

1:46:40 ↗ spread and create the habitat not just

1:46:42 ↗ raran areas because you have your Upland

1:46:45 ↗ it all contributes together to create

1:46:47 ↗ your Forest system and so I was sort of

1:46:50 ↗ anticip ipating that sort of a

1:46:52 ↗ perspective rather than the same old

1:46:54 ↗ canopy perspective that we've been

1:46:57 ↗ talking about all this time and so then

1:46:59 ↗ what we do is we got and plant more

1:47:01 ↗ trees and then we plant more trees and

1:47:03 ↗ then we plant more trees and then we

1:47:04 ↗ plant more trees yet we never really

1:47:06 ↗ track our trees to make sure that the

1:47:08 ↗ trees that we plant or even the under

1:47:10 ↗ underst story that we plant survives and

1:47:13 ↗ we don't

1:47:14 ↗ maintain it because we get overwhelmed

1:47:17 ↗ so now I've droned on so I'm going to

1:47:19 ↗ backtrack and base myself in Chris

1:47:22 ↗ berato who planted those plants on that

1:47:25 ↗ last

1:47:26 ↗ screen and she planted and planted and

1:47:29 ↗ planted and planted and quickly became

1:47:33 ↗ overwhelmed with the maintenance of all

1:47:35 ↗ of those plantings and pretty soon it

1:47:38 ↗ was blackberries and

1:47:40 ↗ trees and the deer and the Blackberry

1:47:43 ↗ and the trees and so there's a huge

1:47:46 ↗ caution in how you are going to be able

1:47:49 ↗ to create a functioning system it is not

1:47:52 ↗ like green is it was something new we've

1:47:54 ↗ been planting trees and doing this for a

1:47:57 ↗ very long time in isqua way ahead of the

1:47:59 ↗ curb and so uh these are some of the the

1:48:04 ↗ problems that that I see you have a

1:48:07 ↗ state

1:48:09 ↗ park

1:48:11 ↗ and you get the picture now let's go to

1:48:15 ↗ Heritage trees I tried to get some

1:48:18 ↗ public trees to gain Heritage status as

1:48:22 ↗ a test last year in the parks department

1:48:24 ↗ and I tried to get that lovely set of

1:48:27 ↗ trees in front of tibit Valley Park you

1:48:29 ↗ know that set of trees where you're walk

1:48:31 ↗ driving down Newport Way and there's

1:48:32 ↗ tiit Valley Park and there's all those

1:48:34 ↗ London Plane

1:48:35 ↗ trees and some of them are in the park a

1:48:40 ↗ some of them are in the street right

1:48:42 ↗ away and the city's plans for that

1:48:45 ↗ street is to take down all the

1:48:47 ↗ trees because that's the right RightWay

1:48:50 ↗ plant that is the set and so I'm going

1:48:53 ↗ that's crazy they want to take down the

1:48:56 ↗ trees so they can plant trees in the

1:48:59 ↗ planter

1:49:00 ↗ strip that's

1:49:03 ↗ crazy and I got

1:49:05 ↗ nowhere because it was more than three

1:49:09 ↗ trees the city has to give

1:49:12 ↗ approval who was I as a community member

1:49:15 ↗ saying wow City these are really great

1:49:17 ↗ trees and this is a really great amenity

1:49:19 ↗ and it's right by a storm water thing

1:49:21 ↗ it's got all the things that you need

1:49:23 ↗ that we need to keep and it was like

1:49:25 ↗ yeah now we just have to change the

1:49:27 ↗ whole program it's like okay well fine

1:49:30 ↗ so now we have a plan where those trees

1:49:33 ↗ are supposed to come down in order to

1:49:35 ↗ widen CL and that is the structure of

1:49:38 ↗ that you guys saw it you were mainly

1:49:40 ↗ here so how is it that we are going to

1:49:45 ↗ get our tree canopy kept in place if we

1:49:50 ↗ cannot get protections for these trees

1:49:54 ↗ that help create the the sense of our

1:49:57 ↗ trees the sense of arrival on streets

1:49:59 ↗ and make us this burdent green community

1:50:03 ↗ that everybody loves and I don't see it

1:50:05 ↗ happening unless we get

1:50:08 ↗ Authority that

1:50:10 ↗ supervises the uh the concept of having

1:50:14 ↗ an urban forest and is able to get it in

1:50:18 ↗ place and track

1:50:20 ↗ longterm and not just for our wonderful

1:50:24 ↗ fan here who I think is just totally

1:50:26 ↗ awesome which is rare that I say that

1:50:29 ↗ out loud to any staff member um but he

1:50:32 ↗ will not always be here so he needs to

1:50:35 ↗ be able to this needs to create a space

1:50:39 ↗ for anybody who can take that position

1:50:43 ↗ and I don't see that that currently is

1:50:47 ↗ it it didn't say duplicable up there it

1:50:49 ↗ didn't say talk much about how you're

1:50:52 ↗ going to actually get things done okay

1:50:54 ↗ very thank

1:50:56 ↗ you thank

1:50:59 ↗ you with that we may be done with you

1:51:03 ↗ Dan apprciate oh oh Tom was that left

1:51:06 ↗ over from earlier or was that a new

1:51:08 ↗ question I think it's left over

1:51:13 ↗ okay yeah I will see

1:51:16 ↗ click thank you so much Dan for for

1:51:18 ↗ coming out tonight appreciate yeah good

1:51:20 ↗ good to see you all and it sounds like

1:51:22 ↗ it'll be meeting with you again in the

1:51:23 ↗ new year so thank you yeah and please

1:51:25 ↗ feel free any time to reach out I love

1:51:27 ↗ to chat about all these things with you

1:51:29 ↗ all

1:51:31 ↗ so we are at about

1:51:34 ↗ 8:30 um I know Stacy has a couple of

1:51:38 ↗ topics

1:51:40 ↗ um what do we want to do

1:51:44 ↗ um I think we could punt the midpoint

1:51:49 ↗ review so the two topics were um the IAP

1:51:53 ↗ next year is required uh staff are

1:51:55 ↗ required to do a midpoint check-in with

1:51:58 ↗ Council um we are planning to make that

1:52:01 ↗ process broader that would involve a lot

1:52:04 ↗ of Education Outreach around IAP

1:52:07 ↗ implementation as well as making some

1:52:09 ↗ minor updates to the IAP based on

1:52:12 ↗ changes happening through the comp plan

1:52:14 ↗ as well as just some corrections we've

1:52:16 ↗ identified so we're looking for feedback

1:52:19 ↗ on on those two objectives for the

1:52:22 ↗ midpoint checkin as well as um plans

1:52:26 ↗ around Community engagement we can um

1:52:29 ↗ take that feedback over email

1:52:31 ↗ incorporate it and bring this back for

1:52:32 ↗ discussion to the board in December or

1:52:36 ↗ January depending on how those agendas

1:52:38 ↗ shape up so I'm fine to pump that one

1:52:40 ↗ it's time critical but not so time

1:52:44 ↗ critical we can't discuss it at a future

1:52:46 ↗ meeting um the other one is our annual

1:52:49 ↗ report report and Survey uh so for those

1:52:52 ↗ that are new to the board um we are

1:52:55 ↗ required by the end of the year to

1:52:56 ↗ submit a annual report to council um

1:52:59 ↗ that summarizes the work we've completed

1:53:01 ↗ over the year as well as provides a self

1:53:03 ↗ assessment of our work um so I provided

1:53:06 ↗ a draft in the packet seeking feedback

1:53:10 ↗ on that draft so I can bring you a final

1:53:12 ↗ uh draft report in December happy to

1:53:16 ↗ take that feedback over email um the one

1:53:19 ↗ thing is the survey we were hoping to

1:53:21 ↗ get that out tomorrow to give you all a

1:53:23 ↗ couple weeks to complete it so we can

1:53:25 ↗ then uh process the results and put them

1:53:27 ↗ into that final draft report so if there

1:53:30 ↗ are suggestions for changes to the

1:53:33 ↗ questions I would appreciate any of that

1:53:36 ↗ feedback tonight if we have a couple

1:53:38 ↗ minutes or tomorrow they're basically

1:53:40 ↗ the same questions as last year we're

1:53:43 ↗ doing a little bit of cleanup and and

1:53:45 ↗ words nothing but capturing the same uh

1:53:48 ↗ Concepts as we did last year to the

1:53:52 ↗ questions so happy to punt the first

1:53:55 ↗ item just would love feedback on that

1:53:57 ↗ IAP midpoint um checkin and our approach

1:54:01 ↗ and engagement there um for the annual

1:54:04 ↗ report I would say please send me

1:54:05 ↗ feedback as soon as possible over email

1:54:08 ↗ on whether we've captured things

1:54:09 ↗ accurately if you have proposed

1:54:12 ↗ revisions and then would love any

1:54:14 ↗ feedback now on the self assessment

1:54:16 ↗ questions or you could provide to me

1:54:18 ↗ tomorrow morning

1:54:20 ↗ does that

1:54:23 ↗ work we can talk about this check but do

1:54:27 ↗ think we should make sure we time

1:54:30 ↗ [Music]

1:54:39 ↗ yes but on the IAT checkin I know that a

1:54:43 ↗ report was provided to all of us from um

1:54:47 ↗ an Fletcher about the what was provided

1:54:50 ↗ to council yes I sent that to the board

1:54:52 ↗ as well yeah is there any way we can see

1:54:56 ↗ that before Council does or is that

1:54:58 ↗ typically how it's going I did send it

1:55:00 ↗ out you all actually did receive it um

1:55:03 ↗ prior to council it was in the October

1:55:05 ↗ packet uh can't remember the date of our

1:55:08 ↗ meeting October

1:55:10 ↗ 11th in that packet um we didn't discuss

1:55:14 ↗ it we just highlighted it and then it

1:55:15 ↗ went I think Council was on the 23rd so

1:55:19 ↗ that's my goal is to send it but we

1:55:20 ↗ didn't really have time at that meeting

1:55:22 ↗ for feedback but we could make time

1:55:24 ↗ going forward for those kinds of

1:55:31 ↗ reports any feedback on the survey

1:55:34 ↗ [Music]

1:55:36 ↗ questions hey um I kind of have a

1:55:38 ↗ different perspective on this because I

1:55:40 ↗ was one of the voices who advocated for

1:55:42 ↗ creating the assessment um the idea was

1:55:45 ↗ to give the board an opportunity to

1:55:46 ↗ guide priorities in a way that other

1:55:48 ↗ boards and commissions don't don't

1:55:49 ↗ usually get a chance for um it would be

1:55:52 ↗ interesting to have the board be more

1:55:53 ↗ involved in adding things to the agenda

1:55:55 ↗ for the year ahead and conversations

1:55:57 ↗ about how to push topics that are

1:55:58 ↗ outside of staff's um agendas the you

1:56:02 ↗ know the history of this board really um

1:56:04 ↗ was a kind of a a warning of how rivers

1:56:06 ↗ and streams became defunct and trying to

1:56:09 ↗ make sure that the environmental board

1:56:11 ↗ was able to be active in a way that

1:56:13 ↗ brought in um new voices in a way that

1:56:16 ↗ other boards and commissions do not um

1:56:18 ↗ and I think it's something that's

1:56:20 ↗ missing right now from that element is

1:56:21 ↗ talking about how um this board can use

1:56:25 ↗ its power to be able to be guiding the

1:56:27 ↗ discussion in a more aggressive way um

1:56:30 ↗ given the state of the world as it is in

1:56:32 ↗ a way that again is very different than

1:56:34 ↗ the way that we have other volunteer

1:56:36 ↗ boards and commissions in our city and I

1:56:38 ↗ didn't see that reflected necessarily of

1:56:40 ↗ being able to empower you guys to um say

1:56:44 ↗ these priorities need to get pushed in a

1:56:46 ↗ different way we need to be able to use

1:56:48 ↗ this board as a as a as a voice of

1:56:51 ↗ advocacy to council to the

1:56:53 ↗ administration um that I'm hoping that

1:56:55 ↗ we can add into the metrics of being

1:56:57 ↗ able to say these are the things that we

1:56:59 ↗ do that's been recommended and this is

1:57:01 ↗ kind of the extra credit version um of

1:57:04 ↗ what we're needing to do and hoping to

1:57:05 ↗ see that and again that's from that

1:57:06 ↗ perspective of somebody who helped to

1:57:08 ↗ create this because no other board

1:57:11 ↗ commission does this kind of assessment

1:57:13 ↗ um that's actually required um in the

1:57:15 ↗ bylaws um and it was for a purpose and

1:57:17 ↗ so I'd love to see us kind of fulfill

1:57:19 ↗ that

1:57:20 ↗ in a way um and then I also had one

1:57:22 ↗ question or suggestion is being able to

1:57:24 ↗ put it into um I don't know if you're

1:57:25 ↗ going to do it as it's displayed in our

1:57:28 ↗ packet or if you're going to be putting

1:57:29 ↗ it into a survey in a similar way that

1:57:31 ↗ we've done before feedback for when we

1:57:33 ↗ have joy commissions or whatever yes

1:57:34 ↗ it'll be I think last year we used a

1:57:36 ↗ Google form I think the year before that

1:57:38 ↗ people submitted their comments and a

1:57:40 ↗ Word document so we'll use some kind of

1:57:42 ↗ survey yeah I would make yeah we we've

1:57:44 ↗ used a metric before of kind of a of a

1:57:46 ↗ survey tool that's very easy to be able

1:57:48 ↗ to to move through

1:57:49 ↗ yes yeah I think we used Google sheet y

1:57:52 ↗ last year um did you have a to your um

1:57:56 ↗ first point is there a specific question

1:57:58 ↗ you'd want to see in the self assessment

1:58:00 ↗ we will be bringing a draft work plan

1:58:02 ↗ 2024 work plan to the board at our

1:58:04 ↗ December meeting for discussion and

1:58:06 ↗ input is I'm trying to think of a a

1:58:10 ↗ specific question we would ask in the

1:58:11 ↗ self assessment I think it's interesting

1:58:13 ↗ to get a feedback from board members as

1:58:16 ↗ to um for instance there's often

1:58:18 ↗ questions that staff asks and maybe

1:58:21 ↗ there isn't such a Defined answer that's

1:58:23 ↗ given by the board there's some

1:58:25 ↗ inference and so as you take away how

1:58:28 ↗ the last year has gone um for yourselves

1:58:31 ↗ was there something you were like I

1:58:33 ↗ really wish you would have had more of a

1:58:34 ↗ focus on this as from coming with the

1:58:36 ↗ experience that you guys bring to the

1:58:38 ↗ board of saying I wish we would have

1:58:40 ↗ spent more time on this I wish we would

1:58:42 ↗ have had more discussion about this

1:58:44 ↗ particular topic and as you reflect on

1:58:46 ↗ this being able to say I feel like we

1:58:48 ↗ kind of miss this we hit what we were

1:58:50 ↗ supposed to do but we didn't really have

1:58:53 ↗ the opportunity to push and say actually

1:58:55 ↗ we need to get more technical knowledge

1:58:57 ↗ on this we need to be prioritizing this

1:58:59 ↗ more and being able to advise Council as

1:59:02 ↗ do we need more budget to be able to go

1:59:03 ↗ further on this right and so kind of

1:59:05 ↗ reflecting on you being able to say um

1:59:08 ↗ how you know what maybe not necessarily

1:59:11 ↗ was I what was I dissatisfied about but

1:59:12 ↗ what do I wish that we would have been

1:59:14 ↗ able to spend more resources on an

1:59:17 ↗ advocate um to C

1:59:20 ↗ that's great

1:59:24 ↗ yeah any other feedback on this alha

1:59:31 ↗ assessment I just and going feeding off

1:59:33 ↗ of what Joy just said you know one

1:59:36 ↗ question you could ask were there any

1:59:38 ↗ initiatives or programs that you would

1:59:41 ↗ like us to consider for for the next

1:59:43 ↗ year or two you know it would be hard I

1:59:46 ↗ know there's one that I pushed at one of

1:59:48 ↗ the meetings that I would like to see

1:59:50 ↗ the city explore and um and that

1:59:54 ↗ feedback would come back stronger not in

1:59:56 ↗ these questions but if something like

1:59:58 ↗ that was add great

2:00:03 ↗ okay all right well as you head home

2:00:05 ↗ tonight if you have other thoughts let

2:00:07 ↗ us know we're going to try and get this

2:00:09 ↗ out tomorrow um afternoon or Monday at

2:00:12 ↗ the latest um so folks have a couple

2:00:14 ↗ weeks to fill out um great and then

2:00:17 ↗ we'll bring the results of that as S as

2:00:19 ↗ assessment with the final draft report

2:00:22 ↗ um to our next meeting um and we'll try

2:00:24 ↗ and make room for that midpoint uh

2:00:26 ↗ discussion as well then but at the

2:00:28 ↗ latest in

2:00:30 ↗ January and if you do have feedback on

2:00:33 ↗ the draft board report it was in your

2:00:34 ↗ packet um please do send that to me so

2:00:36 ↗ we can make Corrections ahead of the

2:00:38 ↗ December

2:00:41 ↗ meeting

2:00:43 ↗ great then let we into our report so you

2:00:47 ↗ was that reports sort of

2:00:49 ↗ those were the regular agenda I can do a

2:00:52 ↗ very very quick um just quick highlights

2:00:55 ↗ because I'm trying to do Council updates

2:00:57 ↗ um Metroflex program launched there were

2:01:00 ↗ actually a few few Flyers out here when

2:01:01 ↗ I came in so grab one um that's the the

2:01:05 ↗ shuttle service essentially um there

2:01:08 ↗ discussions coming up with Council about

2:01:10 ↗ a transportation sales tax

2:01:12 ↗ Transportation benefit District Jamie

2:01:14 ↗ might have more knowledge about this

2:01:15 ↗ from his time on the finance committee

2:01:19 ↗ years ago um tonight the um policy

2:01:24 ↗ development uh sorry Planning

2:01:25 ↗ Development environment Council

2:01:27 ↗ committee actually looked at the

2:01:28 ↗ environment element that's where uh

2:01:30 ↗ David was tonight with Stephen um so

2:01:33 ↗ we'll share their feedback um that we

2:01:36 ↗ receive from them uh maybe over email

2:01:39 ↗ before our next

2:01:40 ↗ meeting um and then on the 20th they'll

2:01:43 ↗ be looking at the mid banian budget

2:01:45 ↗ adjustments one thing to flag there is

2:01:48 ↗ there is a proposal for a to bring back

2:01:51 ↗ a full-time Solid Waste position that

2:01:53 ↗ work has been split across about six

2:01:55 ↗ staff and multiple Consultants um so

2:01:59 ↗ we're uh looking forward to hopefully

2:02:00 ↗ having someone back in that role in the

2:02:02 ↗ new

2:02:03 ↗ year um in your packet uh David provided

2:02:07 ↗ a introductory report on our City's

2:02:10 ↗ greenhouse gas inventory this is a 2022

2:02:13 ↗ Community green greenhouse gas inventory

2:02:16 ↗ and then our first Municipal operations

2:02:19 ↗ inventory he'll provide a much deeper

2:02:21 ↗ dive uh at our next meeting into the

2:02:24 ↗ results of that

2:02:27 ↗ inventory um and then just uh one flag

2:02:31 ↗ for um IAP implementation is next week

2:02:34 ↗ we're going to be launching a big

2:02:36 ↗ marketing campaign for our fuel

2:02:38 ↗ switching incentive for the um heat pump

2:02:41 ↗ campaign this is for moderate income

2:02:43 ↗ households switching from um a gas

2:02:46 ↗ furnace to a heat pump uh that's going

2:02:48 ↗ to be be a five City uh campaign that

2:02:51 ↗ we'll be

2:02:52 ↗ launching um and we have a very full

2:02:55 ↗ December meeting um we'll be looking at

2:02:57 ↗ the greenhouse gas inventory um

2:03:00 ↗ Christian will be back to talk about the

2:03:02 ↗ natural environment checklist he's been

2:03:03 ↗ working with his staff to do a bit of a

2:03:07 ↗ backcast isn't the right word but look

2:03:08 ↗ at some previous projects and run them

2:03:11 ↗ through the spreadsheet he also made

2:03:12 ↗ some improvements to the spreadsheet um

2:03:15 ↗ we'll be looking at our board report and

2:03:18 ↗ survey results and then our 2024 work

2:03:21 ↗ plan so might be uh maybe planned for a

2:03:24 ↗ little extra time at our last meeting we

2:03:27 ↗ just have a lot um a lot of projects we

2:03:29 ↗ want to get reported out on before the

2:03:31 ↗ end of the year and then just some

2:03:32 ↗ housekeeping and administrative items um

2:03:35 ↗ and that meeting is

2:03:38 ↗ December

2:03:43 ↗ 13th we going to bring sustance I I will

2:03:47 ↗ bring something pumpkin bread or

2:03:50 ↗ something yes we can all bring cookies

2:03:52 ↗ yes cider and

2:03:54 ↗ cookies yeah C that sounds good um is

2:03:57 ↗ there any other business from the board

2:03:59 ↗ or from

2:04:01 ↗ Stacy right we

2:04:09 ↗ areour so

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