Planning Policy Commission · Thursday, August 22, 2024 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of August 8, 2024

packet pp.3–7

▶ Watch from 1:10 Open packet at p.3 ↗

Staff report:

MINUTES PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION 6:30 p.m. – Thursday, August 8, 2024

4. PUBLIC HEARING

2024 Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update (A)

Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager Public Hearing Order: Commission · packet pp.9–279

Topics: Land Use

Previously discussed: Environmental Board · Aug 14, 2024

Open packet at p.9 ↗

Staff report:

The Planning Policy Commission (PPC) will deliberate and make a

5. REPORTS

Council Update

Information · Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Upcoming Schedule

packet pp.281–283

▶ Watch from 28:43 Open packet at p.281 ↗

Staff report:

Planning Policy Commission 2024 Schedule (subject to change) 1/11/24 1/25/24

647 segments .txt ↗

0:09 ↗ good evening everyone I'd like to call

0:11 ↗ the August 22nd meeting of the planning

0:14 ↗ policy commission to order currently is

0:18 ↗ 6:33 p.m. tonight's meeting is a hybrid

0:21 ↗ meeting the planning policy commission

0:24 ↗ is in person as well as online uh but we

0:27 ↗ also may have staff or members of the

0:29 ↗ public attending virtually or in person

0:32 ↗ I'm going to stop real quickly because

0:35 ↗ I'm quite fearful do we have more

0:37 ↗ resignation

0:39 ↗ stepen chair voice no we don't so these

0:42 ↗ are excused absences

0:45 ↗ correct a little bit of gallows humor

0:47 ↗ here because uh if you've been watching

0:49 ↗ the last two meetings we've had

0:50 ↗ unfortunately two of our great members

0:53 ↗ uh move on but no they're just excused

0:56 ↗ absences you see up here so Nina Is With

0:59 ↗ Us online

1:00 ↗ as well as the two Commissioners to my

1:02 ↗ right who do we have a

1:04 ↗ quorum chair of voice yes you have a

1:06 ↗ quorum

1:07 ↗ tonight good deal we'll begin with the

1:10 ↗ approval of minutes and we want to look

1:13 ↗ at the August 8th minutes uh for

1:15 ↗ approval first there are only minutes um

1:19 ↗ any questions or

1:24 ↗ concerns take nine as a

1:27 ↗ no those meeting minutes are approved

1:30 ↗ our next item of business is public

1:33 ↗ comment uh we'll hold this at this time

1:36 ↗ these are an important part of the

1:37 ↗ public process we take them seriously we

1:40 ↗ Factor them into our decision-

1:42 ↗ making and right now we are looking for

1:44 ↗ general public comments for the planning

1:46 ↗ policy

1:47 ↗ commission please note that we ask that

1:50 ↗ the comments are limited to 5 minutes or

1:53 ↗ less has anyone signed up this evening

1:55 ↗ for general public

1:58 ↗ comments no chair they have not

2:04 ↗ okay

2:09 ↗ correct all right hearing none we will

2:11 ↗ move on to our regular business this

2:13 ↗ evening and tonight we are holding a

2:15 ↗ public hearing regarding the proposed

2:17 ↗ 2024 comprehensive plan periodic

2:21 ↗ amendments we'll open the public hearing

2:24 ↗ which will be followed by a presentation

2:26 ↗ from staff and then the PPC will be

2:28 ↗ given an opportunity to ask follow-up

2:31 ↗ questions then we will take public

2:33 ↗ testimony and finally the PPC will

2:36 ↗ deliberate and if appropriate we'll make

2:40 ↗ a recommendation to the city council

2:43 ↗ Steven Padua our longrange planning

2:45 ↗ manager who will be presenting this

2:47 ↗ evening so Stephen when you're ready

2:50 ↗ please go

2:51 ↗ ahead thank you chair voice good evening

2:53 ↗ everyone see longrange planning manager

2:56 ↗ it's good to see everyone who's here

2:58 ↗ tonight

3:00 ↗ so tonight as chair voice said we're

3:02 ↗ here to up hold the public hearing and

3:04 ↗ deliberate on making a recommendation to

3:06 ↗ City Council on the proposed 2024

3:09 ↗ comprehensive plan periodic

3:12 ↗ amendments um much of my presentation is

3:15 ↗ going to be kind of reiteration of what

3:17 ↗ you've already seen before but I'm going

3:19 ↗ through it for the public hearing so the

3:21 ↗ comprehensive plan is required component

3:24 ↗ of um the growth management act and So

3:27 ↗ within the growth management act it

3:28 ↗ requires certain topics covered within

3:30 ↗ the comprehensive plan which guides

3:32 ↗ State requirements County countywide

3:34 ↗ requirements as well as our local

3:37 ↗ requirements within the comprehensive

3:39 ↗ plan it functions as part of a planning

3:42 ↗ process with multiple planning documents

3:44 ↗ at the city um in conjunction with how

3:47 ↗ we want to see the see the city grow in

3:51 ↗ different areas and so this works with

3:53 ↗ many of our functional plans and

3:55 ↗ implementing the city's Vision in those

3:57 ↗ different topic areas it works in

3:59 ↗ coordinating financing implementation uh

4:02 ↗ aligned with those implementation plans

4:04 ↗ as well as uh use of the performance

4:07 ↗ metrics on how we're doing on meeting

4:09 ↗ many of those

4:11 ↗ goals the elements that are in the

4:13 ↗ comprehensive plan tonight um many of

4:16 ↗ that you've already discussed in

4:17 ↗ multiple meetings before includes the

4:19 ↗ land use sustainability element the

4:20 ↗ housing element Human Services Parks

4:22 ↗ Economic Development economic Vitality

4:26 ↗ environment and climate stewardship arts

4:28 ↗ and culture transportation in and

4:29 ↗ utilities public services and capital

4:31 ↗ facilities and um at many previous

4:33 ↗ meetings you've reviewed many of the

4:35 ↗ goals and policies that are in the draft

4:37 ↗ elements for each of these topic areas

4:40 ↗ the you'll note that the arts and

4:43 ↗ culture Human Services environment

4:44 ↗ climate stewardship elements are not

4:47 ↗ required although the environment and

4:49 ↗ climate stewardship element will be

4:51 ↗ required of the city after

4:56 ↗ 2029 so one of the major themes with

4:59 ↗ this periodic update was focused on

5:01 ↗ compliance with many of the new state

5:03 ↗ legislation it came around with House

5:05 ↗ Bill 1220 House Bill 1110 House Bill

5:08 ↗ 1337 a lot of housing bills as well as

5:11 ↗ House Bill 1181 that focused on climate

5:14 ↗ change um there was also changes in the

5:17 ↗ King County Planning policies that

5:19 ↗ looked at how the city was going to be

5:21 ↗ meeting much of the compliance with the

5:22 ↗ new state legislation and what local

5:25 ↗ policies need to be enacted in place and

5:27 ↗ a lot of that is aligned with 2050 which

5:30 ↗ is the regional planning document that

5:33 ↗ is in alignment with state regulations

5:36 ↗ as well as the countywide

5:41 ↗ regulations another major theme with

5:43 ↗ this periodic update was coordination

5:45 ↗ between many of the functional plans the

5:46 ↗ city has adopted or was in process of

5:50 ↗ adopting the last time the city went

5:52 ↗ through a periodic update we didn't have

5:54 ↗ many of these functional plans in place

5:57 ↗ and so with this update we focused on

5:59 ↗ making sure that these were fully

6:02 ↗ incorporated into the comprehensive plan

6:03 ↗ or considered in the comprehensive plan

6:05 ↗ and that there was coordination across

6:06 ↗ the board making sure we're using

6:08 ↗ consistent language and then looking for

6:11 ↗ any U inconsistencies in policies and

6:14 ↗ goals um in different

6:20 ↗ elements and the last piece with this

6:22 ↗ period update was focused on design so

6:26 ↗ the way this per this comp draft

6:28 ↗ conference plan is is designed is

6:30 ↗ actually to go into a new online

6:33 ↗ platform that's will be integrated with

6:35 ↗ our municipal code on the code PL cish

6:38 ↗ Cod publishing platform this would help

6:40 ↗ with full integration with City

6:42 ↗ documents as well as create new search

6:45 ↗ functions that we didn't have before and

6:46 ↗ allows for a easy searchability of

6:48 ↗ what's in our conference plan and how it

6:50 ↗ connects with our Municipal

6:52 ↗ Code the other component with design of

6:55 ↗ the compens plan is metrics and so the

6:57 ↗ guiding principles were incorporated

6:59 ↗ into the plan to identify how it ties in

7:01 ↗ with the Strategic plan and those

7:03 ↗ metrics with how we're meeting our goals

7:06 ↗ and

7:08 ↗ policies so a summary of a lot of the

7:10 ↗ changes that we've discussed in previous

7:11 ↗ meetings includes many of the state

7:13 ↗ requirements from New State legislation

7:17 ↗ diversity Equity inclusion Incorporated

7:19 ↗ in many of the goals and policies and

7:20 ↗ multiple

7:21 ↗ elements integration of the functional

7:24 ↗ plans and coordination and

7:26 ↗ implementation the identification of

7:29 ↗ neighborhood hoods being updated as part

7:31 ↗ of the umena

7:33 ↗ plan the creation of the new environment

7:36 ↗ and stewardship element which was really

7:40 ↗ um a split off from the original land

7:42 ↗ use element so from the development of

7:45 ↗ the uh isqua climate action plan we

7:49 ↗ incorporated many of the policies from

7:52 ↗ the LA the currently existing land use

7:54 ↗ element into this new element that

7:57 ↗ focused on more of the natural

7:58 ↗ environment and climate change and so

8:00 ↗ what remained in the land use element

8:02 ↗ was more of the goals and policies

8:03 ↗ focused on the built

8:05 ↗ environment and then the last piece is

8:08 ↗ redesignation and rezone which uh senior

8:11 ↗ planner Kristen Leon will be talking to

8:14 ↗ tonight so much of the process for this

8:16 ↗ periodic update is outlined in exhibit D

8:18 ↗ which lists all the meetings that we've

8:19 ↗ had with planning policy commission as

8:21 ↗ well as all the other boards commissions

8:22 ↗ and city council committees in

8:24 ↗ discussion with all the specific updates

8:27 ↗ that we proposed to have in each

8:31 ↗ B so now I hand it off to

8:41 ↗ Ken so good evening yes Kristen Leon

8:44 ↗ senior

8:45 ↗ planner um there's actually one of you I

8:47 ↗ haven't met before so nice to see

8:49 ↗ you uh yeah I'm going to talk about the

8:52 ↗ redesignation and resoning like what

8:54 ↗ redesignation reson um yeah we haven't

8:57 ↗ talked about this one before so um

9:00 ↗ um recently the city did an inventory of

9:03 ↗ all of its Surplus property one of the

9:05 ↗ Surplus properties was uh 1775 12th

9:08 ↗ Avenue Northwest which some of you may

9:10 ↗ know is the former city hall Northwest

9:12 ↗ building that we used it's now

9:14 ↗ vacant um and so on April 6 Council

9:19 ↗ looked at the Sur this Surplus property

9:21 ↗ and said yes we want to sell it but we

9:24 ↗ have an issue it is currently zoned

9:27 ↗ Community facilities facilities and

9:29 ↗ Community facilities zones represent

9:32 ↗ public ownership so you cannot sell to a

9:36 ↗ private developer if it needs to be

9:38 ↗ publicly owned so the

9:42 ↗ city asked the city uh to rezone this

9:46 ↗ property and in doing so it needs to be

9:49 ↗ what is the most uh you know it needs to

9:52 ↗ be a contiguous property everything

9:53 ↗ around it except for one small parcel is

9:55 ↗ urban

9:56 ↗ core so the process used to be

10:00 ↗ that rezones came to the planning policy

10:04 ↗ commission for recommendation to city

10:07 ↗ council but to take

10:09 ↗ the to make it more subjective it now

10:13 ↗ goes and not puts you all in a weird

10:14 ↗ position and now goes to the hearing

10:16 ↗ examiner so on June so and one other

10:20 ↗ thing so it goes to the hearing examiner

10:22 ↗ so if a comprehensive plan amendment is

10:24 ↗ not required which in this case it is

10:27 ↗ because the community facilities

10:29 ↗ facility Zone falls under the Community

10:31 ↗ facilities umbrella of land use

10:33 ↗ designation of yeah land use designation

10:36 ↗ the urban core that it they wanted it to

10:38 ↗ be rowned um falls under the mixed use

10:42 ↗ land use designation so you can't have a

10:44 ↗ zone that doesn't match the

10:45 ↗ corresponding designation so therefore

10:48 ↗ in this case it also needs a land use

10:51 ↗ Amendment so you do the public hearing

10:54 ↗ with the hearing examiner who makes a

10:55 ↗ recommendation to the city council then

10:58 ↗ the public hearing at the planning

11:00 ↗ policy commission has to do with the

11:02 ↗ land use designation so that's what

11:03 ↗ we'll show talk about tonight uh the

11:05 ↗ city council then takes action on the

11:08 ↗ redesignation first and then they would

11:10 ↗ take an action on a

11:13 ↗ reone so that's what we're doing here

11:15 ↗ tonight so we're talking about this

11:17 ↗ parcel

11:19 ↗ um

11:21 ↗ right not getting it there right there

11:24 ↗ and you can see it's currently it's uh

11:26 ↗ 1.28 Acres currently owned by the city

11:29 ↗ zoned Community facilities facilities

11:32 ↗ and the proposed or now recommended

11:34 ↗ rezone is the uh Urban core zone so this

11:38 ↗ actually went to our hearing examiner on

11:41 ↗ June 6th of this year hearing examiner

11:43 ↗ recommended approval of the rezone so

11:47 ↗ with that we would then recommend

11:50 ↗ changing the community facilities land

11:53 ↗ use designation to the matching mixed

11:57 ↗ use land land uh land use

12:00 ↗ designation and so that's what is in

12:02 ↗ your comp plan and that is what would

12:04 ↗ change on the land use map if you are to

12:06 ↗ recommend

12:08 ↗ a back to

12:13 ↗ Steve thank you chren so for next steps

12:17 ↗ for this process following tonight's

12:18 ↗ meeting we will be taking the draft

12:21 ↗ comprehensive plan to the uh Planning

12:24 ↗ Development environment Council

12:25 ↗ committee um who will review it in their

12:28 ↗ meetings in September October and then

12:29 ↗ we'll bring it to the comme of the whole

12:31 ↗ and then to full Council in

12:34 ↗ December so in your materials tonight uh

12:37 ↗ you have the public comments Matrix you

12:40 ↗ have the matrixes of

12:42 ↗ changes letter from the environmental

12:44 ↗ board on recommended changes list of

12:47 ↗ meetings um and then the redesignation

12:50 ↗ rezone that Kristen spoke to as well as

12:53 ↗ drafts elements and the appendices for

12:56 ↗ the draft conference plan

13:00 ↗ so an example motion uh for you all to

13:02 ↗ consider tonight is move to recommend

13:04 ↗ approval of the proposed periodic

13:05 ↗ amendments conference plan as

13:09 ↗ presented that concludes my

13:14 ↗ presentation thank you Stephen thank you

13:16 ↗ Kristen all right now is the time for

13:19 ↗ members questions uh the one thing I'd

13:21 ↗ like to point out is a lot of the stuff

13:24 ↗ we've seen I believe is our third time

13:26 ↗ around with it so a lot of this should

13:27 ↗ be pretty familiar

13:29 ↗ uh with the exception of the

13:30 ↗ environmental board uh you have seen

13:32 ↗ most of it as Stephen was mentioning the

13:35 ↗ environmental board has proposed a lot

13:37 ↗ of different uh tweaks changes to

13:40 ↗ different policies as you might have

13:41 ↗ seen or read and I want to thank the

13:43 ↗ environmental board for uh doing such

13:46 ↗ thorough work uh Stephen and I had a

13:48 ↗ discussion our thinking is like I said

13:50 ↗ that some of this was pretty technical

13:52 ↗ we asked that staff would look at it you

13:54 ↗ can see staff's responses in much of it

13:56 ↗ but I do want to point out now is the

13:58 ↗ time to ask if you do have questions

14:00 ↗ about the environmental board whether

14:02 ↗ it's their policies or the responses

14:03 ↗ from staff now is a good time to ask

14:06 ↗ about it we will debate it as part of

14:07 ↗ the Fuller packet but please also feel

14:10 ↗ free to ask about anything you have

14:11 ↗ questions on that that's really the only

14:13 ↗ thing we haven't seen other than

14:15 ↗ everything in its totality but just

14:17 ↗ wanted to make real clear that again

14:19 ↗ that's definitely um open to for

14:22 ↗ discussion and again thank you for the

14:24 ↗ environmental board for all their hard

14:27 ↗ work all right questions

14:59 ↗ um real quickly briefly ask our

15:02 ↗ commissioners individually if they do

15:04 ↗ have any questions I'll start with

15:06 ↗ commissioner Milligan do I see a Simpson

15:08 ↗ hand

15:12 ↗ there nope okay commissioner zacharov

15:17 ↗ any questions commissioner

15:20 ↗ Patterson all right no

15:25 ↗ questions being there's no questions we

15:27 ↗ are going to open the public comment at

15:30 ↗ 6:49

15:31 ↗ p.m. and Stephen I believe I know the

15:34 ↗ answer to this but uh has anyone signed

15:37 ↗ up to

15:44 ↗ speak chair voice no one signed up to

15:46 ↗ speak but you can ask in the room all

15:48 ↗ right well I believe there is someone

15:50 ↗ who would like to

15:51 ↗ speak so we just do ask that um we ask

15:55 ↗ that you speak clearly pause frequently

15:57 ↗ please state your name

15:59 ↗ um before

16:01 ↗ speaking if we do have someone that

16:04 ↗ joins online we do ask that if you're

16:06 ↗ having any technical issues to try and

16:08 ↗ join the meeting using a different

16:09 ↗ device such as a smartphone or tablet uh

16:12 ↗ you can also use the call information

16:15 ↗ into the meeting to call in we do ask

16:18 ↗ that you keep your comments to five

16:19 ↗ minutes or less and with that if anyone

16:22 ↗ in the room would like to speak please

16:32 ↗ hi my name's Connie Marsh I live on

16:34 ↗ squawk you should have gotten my

16:37 ↗ grinding for day went through just about

16:41 ↗ every word in the comprehensive plan

16:44 ↗ including the language that hasn't not

16:46 ↗ really been reviewed like the vision

16:48 ↗ statements and all of this that you

16:50 ↗ haven't done much with and this is oh I

16:54 ↗ don't know I've been doing this since uh

16:57 ↗ the '90s and so this is not my first

16:59 ↗ comprehensive plan though this is a

17:02 ↗ strikingly differently toned and leveled

17:06 ↗ comprehensive plan in the past and what

17:09 ↗ I consider to be the correct form of a

17:11 ↗ comprehensive plan is uh the community

17:16 ↗ and what the community wants how they

17:19 ↗ live their daily lives and then how that

17:22 ↗ those lives spool out into their hopes

17:25 ↗ and dreams of the future of the town in

17:28 ↗ 20 years

17:31 ↗ because the comprehensive plan is how

17:33 ↗ you guide the community's city it is not

17:39 ↗ how the government is going to run its

17:42 ↗ town and that is missing from this

17:45 ↗ comprehensive plan in the past we had

17:48 ↗ visions and value

17:50 ↗ statements and they went out to the

17:53 ↗ community and said okay Community what

17:56 ↗ are you thinking look 20 years and tell

17:59 ↗ us what you think the proper path for

18:02 ↗ isqua is what do you see and want for 20

18:05 ↗ years from now and tell us your hopes

18:08 ↗ and

18:09 ↗ dreams and in this situation instead we

18:13 ↗ went to The Guiding principles at the

18:16 ↗ Strategic plan level and created a plan

18:19 ↗ for the city to use bere of the

18:22 ↗ community hopes and dreams and that

18:24 ↗ follows through in the language

18:26 ↗ especially the V Vision language her

18:29 ↗ chapters uh when you when you

18:33 ↗ look at what isqua has done in the last

18:37 ↗ 10 years it's like brilliant we have

18:42 ↗ increased the diversity in this town

18:45 ↗ tremendously we have created so many

18:47 ↗ different and varied housing units that

18:49 ↗ you can't even believe it far above what

18:52 ↗ other communities have been able to

18:54 ↗ achieve on the east side and our

18:59 ↗ language makes it sound like we have

19:01 ↗ made no progress whatsoever so what I

19:05 ↗ say is we celebrate where we have gotten

19:08 ↗ to and then we point the trajectory into

19:11 ↗ the future of what our town can be and

19:16 ↗ we show how much better the lives of the

19:19 ↗ community members will

19:22 ↗ be and we can talk about the Arts

19:26 ↗ because the Arts are the soul right are

19:28 ↗ the poet poetry of Our Lives it's the

19:30 ↗ emotions that we feel and then we have

19:32 ↗ the Cornerstone of the environment that

19:35 ↗ everybody values so much and then you

19:37 ↗ have the swearing on the streets because

19:40 ↗ you can't get around or gravel is being

19:42 ↗ kicked up on you because you're trying

19:43 ↗ to walk and it's next to a 35 M hour

19:46 ↗ street that is totally unpleasant and

19:49 ↗ that isn't necessarily the town that the

19:52 ↗ community wants but the community hasn't

19:54 ↗ been asked on that level this

19:57 ↗ comprehensive plan is is one whole step

20:00 ↗ down further than it needs to be to get

20:03 ↗ us the future that the community wants

20:06 ↗ so what I ask in all of my grinding

20:09 ↗ language that you got in huge detail

20:12 ↗ that you consider your hopes and dreams

20:15 ↗ and what you think isqua should be deep

20:18 ↗ down in our souls because a town is

20:21 ↗ really the soul of its peoples all of

20:25 ↗ them and you say is this telling us that

20:29 ↗ story I do not think it is then backing

20:34 ↗ off a little bit to just normal

20:38 ↗ stuff I don't believe it's ever correct

20:41 ↗ to take public comment at a at a public

20:44 ↗ hearing and make a decision the same

20:47 ↗ night I think it always should be

20:50 ↗ continued so you can think and Ponder a

20:53 ↗ little bit further before you make a

20:55 ↗ decision to pass such a thing on

20:57 ↗ especially with with the environmental

20:59 ↗ board comments because I totally

21:02 ↗ disagree with Steven's responses to the

21:05 ↗ environmental uh board's comments I felt

21:08 ↗ that they were disregarded and they put

21:10 ↗ their hearts and souls into the

21:11 ↗ environmental section of this town and

21:15 ↗ um they should be they should be

21:17 ↗ respected in that not disregarded thank

21:19 ↗ you very much it wasn't as good as the

21:22 ↗ Obamas what can I say but I'm trying

21:32 ↗ is there anyone else who would like to

21:34 ↗ speak anyone

21:37 ↗ online there are there's no one

21:47 ↗ online we will close the public comment

21:50 ↗ at 6:55 p.m. I do want to thank

21:54 ↗ U participation from our public just

21:56 ↗ moments ago

21:59 ↗ and now in order to

22:02 ↗ continue we do regardless of what the

22:05 ↗ commission decides we still do need

22:06 ↗ formal action to begin the process pick

22:09 ↗ it off as they so is there a motion to

22:13 ↗ begin Liberation I see commissioner

22:20 ↗ Milligan hi thank you first a clarifying

22:23 ↗ question you've been saying that public

22:24 ↗ comment is open and then public comment

22:26 ↗ is closed did you mean the public

22:28 ↗ hearing in I blame my

22:32 ↗ writers okay so public hearing is now

22:36 ↗ closed yes thank you okay my comment is

22:41 ↗ uh and I and I think the commenter I did

22:43 ↗ come uh with two reasons to postpone uh

22:46 ↗ deliberations and actions uh the first

22:50 ↗ reason to postpone is that we are

22:53 ↗ missing three of our senior count U

22:56 ↗ Commissioners who have been a very

22:58 ↗ important in uh reviewing the

23:01 ↗ comprehensive plan over these last

23:03 ↗ several months and we did have a lot of

23:05 ↗ uh new information today especially from

23:07 ↗ the environmental board uh that we

23:10 ↗ haven't had a chance to hear their

23:11 ↗ voices on and the second is I thought it

23:14 ↗ was a policy uh and I was certainly just

23:16 ↗ going to advocate for um the intention

23:19 ↗ of it that we would not have actions at

23:21 ↗ the same night as a um public hearing

23:24 ↗ now that certainly may be true for um

23:26 ↗ and I hope it darn is for city council

23:29 ↗ but it um could and should be for um

23:33 ↗ this commission so I am going to make a

23:36 ↗ motion if I may chair may I make a

23:39 ↗ motion of course okay I move to uh

23:43 ↗ postpone deliberation and action uh uh

23:46 ↗ section of this um proceeding to our

23:51 ↗ next public um policy commission meeting

23:55 ↗ planning policy commission meeting I am

23:57 ↗ so sorry I can't I'm running in here

23:59 ↗ from I'm on vacation but I'm here uh so

24:03 ↗ that's my motion and then I'm happy to

24:06 ↗ follow up with more comment if somebody

24:07 ↗ would wish to um second it is there a

24:14 ↗ second commissioner

24:18 ↗ Patterson I will second that

24:20 ↗ motion all right so we have a motion to

24:24 ↗ move our deliberations towards our next

24:26 ↗ public meeting um um let's go ahead and

24:29 ↗ take a vote all in favor say

24:32 ↗ I

24:34 ↗ I all right that's majority so we will

24:37 ↗ move those to our next public

24:40 ↗ meeting uh move our deliberations to the

24:42 ↗ next public meeting

25:03 ↗ okay chair voice for uh the action will

25:07 ↗ be moved to the next meeting you can

25:08 ↗ still start your deliberations tonight

25:11 ↗ if you choose

25:13 ↗ to um well I guess since I'll ask the

25:17 ↗ motion maker did you want to move the

25:19 ↗ deliberations wait till the senior

25:20 ↗ members come back do you want to wait

25:22 ↗ for the formal action since it was your

25:24 ↗ motion um yeah I was I was imagining

25:27 ↗ that we would all do it together because

25:29 ↗ there is the deliberative quality um

25:32 ↗ happens when we're all in the room

25:34 ↗ together uh but I feel uh less

25:39 ↗ um I I do not need to die on that hill

25:41 ↗ just wanted to move the general

25:44 ↗ deliberation so if anybody wanted to

25:46 ↗ start deliberating today I would not

25:48 ↗ mind okay but that was my intention was

25:51 ↗ to move it all okay um I'll ask the

25:54 ↗ Commissioners

25:55 ↗ since the two of you also voted with

25:57 ↗ Nina um you guys like to move the

25:59 ↗ deliberations I don't think we need to

26:01 ↗ make this formal it's just more of

26:05 ↗ a

26:10 ↗ okay yeah I'm I'm did um because I do

26:15 ↗ agree with your observation that it

26:18 ↗ seems I

26:21 ↗ guess that making this decision with

26:23 ↗ just the four of us uh would would be I

26:27 ↗ guess a big piece of the puzzle

26:31 ↗ um so yeah I I am a little conflicted

26:34 ↗ that being said I also don't want to

26:36 ↗ like fully stop any progress on on on

26:39 ↗ this um so I'm a little conflicted right

26:41 ↗ now to be completely honest

26:44 ↗ um that's where my head is currently at

26:47 ↗ I know it's not helpful but um just myle

26:51 ↗ right

26:53 ↗ now all right well we have uh

26:55 ↗ commissioner Milligan and commissioner

26:58 ↗ back off in favor for moving the

27:02 ↗ deliberations and this your guys' motion

27:05 ↗ so I guess in this sense since we have

27:08 ↗ 50% that would like to move them do you

27:11 ↗ think staff I think we probably should

27:13 ↗ just move

27:14 ↗ it CH voice yeah we can we can move that

27:17 ↗ out yeah I think we basically got two

27:20 ↗ and a

27:22 ↗ half yeah we'll just move the entire

27:24 ↗ deliberation and I think um hopefully we

27:27 ↗ can make room no our next meeting has to

27:29 ↗ do with housing analysis uh what else do

27:32 ↗ we have so one of the updates for

27:34 ↗ tonight is that the calendar is going to

27:36 ↗ be changing uh we're going to be holding

27:38 ↗ a public hearing on the draft Eis um at

27:41 ↗ the SE September 12th meeting and so

27:43 ↗ there is actually room on the agenda to

27:45 ↗ continue the deliberation discussions at

27:47 ↗ that meeting

27:50 ↗ okay all right

28:06 ↗ okay um well thank you commissioner

28:08 ↗ Milligan thank you Commissioners I

28:10 ↗ believe having said that we will wait

28:12 ↗ till next public our next meeting on

28:14 ↗ September 12th to have our deliberations

28:16 ↗ and uh recommendation or action for the

28:21 ↗ periodic amendments for the comp plan as

28:24 ↗ well as apparently something else but

28:25 ↗ having said that we will close out that

28:27 ↗ portion of tonight's

28:28 ↗ agenda and we will move on now to

28:30 ↗ regular

28:31 ↗ business um which really is just

28:34 ↗ reports thank you chair voice so for

28:37 ↗ tonight um there's no council report

28:40 ↗ it's been a fairly quiet month um but

28:43 ↗ for the next item other business

28:46 ↗ announcements there are updates to the

28:48 ↗ planning policy commission uh calendar

28:50 ↗ that will be sending out it'll just

28:53 ↗ shift around when the topics are being

28:55 ↗ discussed uh that we be looking at this

28:57 ↗ fall and winter and so uh we'll let that

29:00 ↗ we'll send that out for the

29:01 ↗ Commissioners to review there's also

29:03 ↗ going to be a middle housing survey

29:05 ↗ that's going to be coming out in the

29:06 ↗ next week or two so just I'll let you

29:08 ↗ know when that is available as

29:13 ↗ well there's our city council updates

29:16 ↗ any other business announcements from

29:18 ↗ staff

29:23 ↗ from all right well thank you all for

29:26 ↗ coming I know it was rather short this

29:27 ↗ evening

29:28 ↗ I do know some people are now going to

29:30 ↗ fight Upstream fight the Kirkland crawl

29:34 ↗ again we appreciate it and we will

29:35 ↗ adjourn this meeting at 7:03 p.m thank

29:38 ↗ you

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