Environmental Board · Wednesday, August 9, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of July 12, 2023

packet pp.3–6

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 07-12-23 Environmental Board Minutes Page [1] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. July 12, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Comprehensive Plan Update

Discussion · [50 mins] Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager · packet pp.35–76

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

Facilities Update/Municipal Decarbonization Resolution (A) [35 mins]

David Reedy, Sustainability Coordinator · packet pp.77–99

Topics: Climate

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Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Updated Board Workplan

packet pp.101–104

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0:18 ↗ started yeah I

0:22 ↗ was all right so we are

0:25 ↗ recording all right well welcome to the

0:28 ↗ August 9th Community BAS environmental

0:30 ↗ board I'm Jamie Finch and I'll be your

0:31 ↗ chair tonight uh due to the hybrid

0:33 ↗ nature of this meeting we will have some

0:35 ↗ members attending in person and others

0:37 ↗ by computer or phone for those attending

0:39 ↗ remotely please state your name before

0:42 ↗ speaking um mute your microphone when

0:44 ↗ you are not um and if you have a desire

0:48 ↗ to speak please raise your hand which I

0:50 ↗ think is the right teams function um and

0:54 ↗ we'll do our best if you're not getting

0:56 ↗ called on just unmute and interrupt us

0:59 ↗ because that can happen um everyone that

1:02 ↗ is in person as we always do please uh

1:04 ↗ flip your card to the name card to the

1:08 ↗ side if you would like to

1:10 ↗ speak um and then for any key topics

1:14 ↗ we'll try to summarize agreement and the

1:17 ↗ topic so I think from there Stacy if you

1:19 ↗ could take us through attendance that'd

1:20 ↗ be great uh Tommy Anderson here Nancy

1:24 ↗ Davidson here Jamie Finch

1:27 ↗ here got B

1:31 ↗ here Jo Lewis has an excused absence

1:35 ↗ Ashan

1:36 ↗ Canan

1:38 ↗ here Ashwin Mona

1:42 ↗ Haron Don mcams here and

1:47 ↗ nuk Janet wall here uh Dixie bear will

1:52 ↗ be late or she depending on her timing

1:55 ↗ uh may not show

1:57 ↗ tonight um and then Alex Lee tigner

2:01 ↗ here we

2:04 ↗ have right um next up we have the

2:07 ↗ approval of the minutes do we have any

2:10 ↗ comments from the board on on the

2:13 ↗ minutes in the

2:16 ↗ packet hearing none those are approved

2:19 ↗ as presented um next up we have public

2:23 ↗ comment do we have

2:25 ↗ anyone we do not have any members of the

2:28 ↗ public um and then we did receive

2:31 ↗ comments via email from Connie Marsh

2:33 ↗ about a week

2:35 ↗ ago well I think then um since we don't

2:38 ↗ have anyone attending from the public we

2:39 ↗ can move past public comments into our

2:42 ↗ agenda items with the first one being

2:45 ↗ Communications overview and public

2:47 ↗ engagement

2:49 ↗ toolkit

2:58 ↗ wonderful

3:02 ↗ introduce yourself

3:04 ↗ very well as Stacy pulls that up it's a

3:06 ↗ pleasure to being all of you my name is

3:08 ↗ Thomas rush I am the communications

3:09 ↗ manager for the city um Stacy asked me

3:13 ↗ to potentially show up for one of these

3:15 ↗ to let you know more about what the

3:16 ↗ communications team does highlight some

3:18 ↗ of the things that we've recently

3:20 ↗ accomplished and be sure to answer any

3:22 ↗ and all of your questions so happy to do

3:24 ↗ that questions as you go or questions at

3:27 ↗ theend whatever the group is more

3:28 ↗ comfortable with I'm happy to take them

3:29 ↗ on the fly if that's better for you

3:32 ↗ sounds good okay looks like we're ready

3:35 ↗ uh the two big things I was hoping to

3:37 ↗ cover today is just give you a broad

3:39 ↗ overview of what the communications team

3:41 ↗ entails kind of our responsibilities and

3:44 ↗ um highlight some of the tasks that

3:46 ↗ we're responsible for and then second is

3:49 ↗ we recently uh redid our public

3:52 ↗ engagement toolkit uh and I kind of want

3:54 ↗ to walk you through what that is used

3:56 ↗ for and um just hear if you have any

3:59 ↗ feedback for

4:01 ↗ us so number one all right so what do we

4:04 ↗ do ideally we create a very engaged

4:06 ↗ community and having people uh feel like

4:10 ↗ they understand what the city is

4:12 ↗ accomplishing and how they can stay

4:15 ↗ engaged on those topics is really what

4:17 ↗ drives our overall goals um the mission

4:20 ↗ is much longer but it basically boils

4:22 ↗ down to your customers residents

4:25 ↗ businesses everyone feels like what they

4:27 ↗ need to get from the city in terms

4:29 ↗ communication is done effectively by our

4:34 ↗ team uh it's a small team our team has

4:36 ↗ only three people uh we have a few other

4:39 ↗ um staff who assist on things but it's

4:40 ↗ really myself the communications manager

4:42 ↗ have a Communications coordinator who

4:44 ↗ helps with our websites and there task

4:46 ↗ outline and then we have a media

4:47 ↗ production specialist who helps with all

4:49 ↗ of our videography needs helps make sure

4:52 ↗ we meet all our goals in terms of

4:54 ↗ capturing video for boards commissions

4:56 ↗ to the councils those kind of things so

4:58 ↗ a mighty team of three

5:02 ↗ uh if you're curious how the

5:03 ↗ communications division kind of fits in

5:04 ↗ the overall City structure uh we report

5:08 ↗ to the administra of services department

5:09 ↗ director uh one of the mer many internal

5:12 ↗ Services that's how it's kind of viewed

5:14 ↗ along with facilities and

5:16 ↗ it um who am I forgetting right now mer

5:20 ↗ thank you f Fleet as well thank you

5:23 ↗ could have staff here to back me up so I

5:25 ↗ don't forget anyone and get in trouble

5:27 ↗ um some of our roles so we're wholly

5:29 ↗ responsible for the city's website or

5:31 ↗ manage every single page all the content

5:33 ↗ that's on it um we handle all the city's

5:35 ↗ social media channels so every single

5:37 ↗ one of our I think 10 different

5:39 ↗ platforms right now um neighborhood

5:42 ↗ engagement is also handled through our

5:43 ↗ things so anytime we want to set up any

5:45 ↗ meetings localized to um smaller areas

5:48 ↗ like neighborhoods or even you know

5:50 ↗ micro divisions within those

5:51 ↗ neighborhoods we set those kind of

5:52 ↗ things

5:53 ↗ up we sit on nearly every Capital

5:56 ↗ project to provide that perspective and

5:58 ↗ consult from uh public engagement

6:01 ↗ perspective to make sure project

6:03 ↗ managers feel like they have all the

6:04 ↗ tools they need to make sure residents

6:07 ↗ are aware of the upcoming work and how

6:09 ↗ best to how to manage that and finally

6:12 ↗ um as I alluded to the uh our video

6:15 ↗ specialist make sure all of our meetings

6:17 ↗ are

6:18 ↗ covered so when you talk about project

6:21 ↗ Outreach sorry I'm Nancy Davidson by the

6:23 ↗ way um are you talking about things like

6:26 ↗ I know we're doing a comp plan update we

6:29 ↗ did

6:30 ↗ Title 18 recently so were you involved

6:32 ↗ in all those Outreach with the community

6:34 ↗ as well absolutely so uh for Title 18

6:37 ↗ team is good example um all of the

6:40 ↗ structure done with that is um organized

6:43 ↗ through our public engagement toolkit

6:44 ↗ which is one of the tools we provide

6:46 ↗ project managers but that lets us talk

6:48 ↗ through what makes sense for when to

6:50 ↗ engage with the public to make sure we

6:51 ↗ get feedback at the right time from

6:53 ↗ residents and they feel like their

6:54 ↗ voices are heard um another project that

6:56 ↗ finished this year that had a lot of

6:58 ↗ easy to identify examples is BlackBerry

7:00 ↗ park over in South Lake samamish making

7:03 ↗ sure we set up the right meetings to um

7:05 ↗ get public input to set up surveys to

7:08 ↗ hear any feedback on the designs all of

7:10 ↗ that is kind of done with our um

7:12 ↗ Consulting on those projects I ask you

7:14 ↗ one more question so last meeting though

7:17 ↗ I was not here there was a presentation

7:19 ↗ about the sewer comprehensive plan and

7:21 ↗ in it there's a conversation about

7:24 ↗ dealing with septic tanks in the

7:25 ↗ community are you involved in that

7:27 ↗ because that seems to me like huge neor

7:29 ↗ neighorhood issue yeah I know that that

7:32 ↗ topic in particular has a few

7:33 ↗ neighborhoods that are uh very invested

7:36 ↗ in learning more about what's coming

7:37 ↗ from that um that topic has not come up

7:40 ↗ to me recently we talked about it in the

7:42 ↗ past a little bit I know it's upcoming

7:44 ↗ again um I'll be sure to reach out to

7:46 ↗ the project managers as they need to

7:47 ↗ start developing those strategies but

7:49 ↗ hasn't come to my desk recently thank

7:52 ↗ you any other questions yes uh Tom

7:56 ↗ Anderson here how about content for like

7:58 ↗ the the new newsletter is that all on

8:00 ↗ your shoulders or does that different

8:03 ↗ departments feed content to you for

8:05 ↗ simulation in the newsletter and also

8:08 ↗ Project Specific uh content how does all

8:11 ↗ that FL sure so we handle uh building

8:14 ↗ app the newsletters obviously the topics

8:16 ↗ within them we rely on the subject

8:17 ↗ matter experts around the city so if a

8:20 ↗ Project's coming up with a survey or

8:21 ↗ something like that that we need to make

8:23 ↗ sure we help with Outreach on make sure

8:25 ↗ the project managers are helping to kind

8:27 ↗ of build out that content but in terms

8:29 ↗ of building it all together and

8:30 ↗ aggregating it for the newsletters that

8:32 ↗ does land on Communications and

8:36 ↗ shoulders all righty uh I

8:41 ↗ think so I outlined the website um as I

8:44 ↗ alluded every single page on it is uh

8:48 ↗ managed by the communications team uh

8:50 ↗ last year alone we had two and a half

8:52 ↗ million page visit so it is quite a

8:55 ↗ comprehensive site well used by the

8:57 ↗ community um the Communications team

9:00 ↗ likes to think of it as the Nexus for

9:01 ↗ everything we do so social media helps

9:03 ↗ us you know start dialogues that inform

9:06 ↗ people but everything kind of brings

9:07 ↗ itself back to the website um as part of

9:11 ↗ that you get a sneak peek we're actually

9:13 ↗ looking to do a redesign somehow it's

9:15 ↗ been five years since we've updated this

9:17 ↗ website for me personally since I

9:18 ↗ handled the redesign last time it does

9:20 ↗ not feel like five years has passed but

9:23 ↗ uh that is coming up towards the end of

9:25 ↗ 2023 early 2024 we'll look at

9:27 ↗ redesigning a little bit the sub matter

9:29 ↗ won't change too much but it'll have a

9:30 ↗ different looking feel to it so

9:32 ↗ something to look forward

9:35 ↗ to um are you thinking of moving to a

9:38 ↗ different platform to support it or

9:40 ↗ what's what's what's what are you using

9:42 ↗ right now and what are you thinking of

9:43 ↗ moving to sure we use a solution by a

9:46 ↗ company called Civic plus they are one

9:48 ↗ of the larger municipality uh companies

9:52 ↗ along with granicus who tend to house a

9:54 ↗ lot of the uh municipality websites um

9:58 ↗ we're pretty excited about what we can

10:00 ↗ do with that platform but it is always

10:02 ↗ good to kind of reinvigorate the the way

10:04 ↗ the website looks and feels to keep

10:07 ↗ people invested so we can test out some

10:08 ↗ other things they have new tools that

10:10 ↗ they've developed since the last time

10:11 ↗ we've redesigned and we kind of want to

10:13 ↗ take advantage of some of those new

10:15 ↗ elements to write a better and a product

10:17 ↗ for

10:23 ↗ residence I alluded to social media a

10:25 ↗ little bit um it's really one of our

10:27 ↗ best ways to engage with res

10:30 ↗ um in comparison to a lot of our

10:33 ↗ regional neighbors we have a highly

10:36 ↗ motivated and highly uh attached

10:38 ↗ audience which is it's a great thing

10:40 ↗ it's good to see that many of the

10:42 ↗ residents following our accounts it

10:43 ↗ helps us provide information and also

10:46 ↗ get feedback so we're really excited by

10:48 ↗ the fact that um it has been very useful

10:51 ↗ for creating mean meaningful discussion

10:53 ↗ with residents uh lets us also make sure

10:56 ↗ everyone stays aware of events and

10:57 ↗ things like that um um a great example

11:00 ↗ is our concerts in the green series we

11:01 ↗ try and get all those on the calendar

11:03 ↗ and um I think anyone who showed up last

11:05 ↗ Tuesday for um the abig graphs we'll see

11:09 ↗ it's it's a well-loved feature and we're

11:11 ↗ glad to see that people follow us enough

11:13 ↗ to use those elements to stay informed

11:15 ↗ on other things um social media can feel

11:19 ↗ like it's a one-way street but we really

11:21 ↗ want to make sure it feels like a

11:22 ↗ dialogue between the cityan community so

11:24 ↗ to that end we kind of tailor the

11:26 ↗ content across the different platforms

11:28 ↗ you see there

11:29 ↗ um YouTube obviously houses a lot of our

11:32 ↗ required videos um but between Facebook

11:35 ↗ Twitter and Instagram we all see

11:36 ↗ different audiences there and so we

11:38 ↗ tailor the content appropriately um next

11:41 ↗ door actually is the most unique uh I

11:43 ↗ think some of our communities around us

11:45 ↗ wish we had such an Engaged audience

11:47 ↗ it's something like 75% of households

11:49 ↗ have a next door presence in this AA so

11:51 ↗ uh super useful for pushing out

11:52 ↗ important information as well as

11:53 ↗ emergency information um yeah either way

11:56 ↗ I think social media use of the city

11:58 ↗ we're doing a great job with it but also

12:00 ↗ that's only possible because so much of

12:02 ↗ community is also invested and finding

12:03 ↗ out things from us that

12:06 ↗ way yeah uh Police Twitter why why have

12:10 ↗ they specifically decided Twitter is the

12:13 ↗ the Preferred channel for their Vital

12:17 ↗ Information what up of that yeah um they

12:21 ↗ chose Twitter based on the fact that uh

12:24 ↗ at the time we chose it which I think

12:26 ↗ there's a lot to say from the last eight

12:29 ↗ months with that platform uh it was the

12:31 ↗ easiest one to be able to identify

12:34 ↗ important time frames to get information

12:35 ↗ out and for the most people they view

12:38 ↗ information in a chronological fashion

12:40 ↗ other platforms like Facebook you don't

12:42 ↗ have that ability to easily get

12:43 ↗ information out and be sure it'll be

12:45 ↗ seen by your subscribers in the relevant

12:48 ↗ time frame sometimes it can be days

12:50 ↗ before you see a post depending on how

12:51 ↗ well it's um use so that was the idea

12:54 ↗ behind using Twitter for that platform

12:56 ↗ they also do now have a Facebook page

12:58 ↗ not using for emergency information but

13:01 ↗ uh for highlighting events like National

13:02 ↗ app that just happened you posting

13:04 ↗ photos of that and keeping you informed

13:06 ↗ on um other things like their their blot

13:08 ↗ usage that's kind of what they do uh

13:10 ↗ Facebook's platforms for but I think

13:13 ↗ we'll likely be looking at um how well

13:16 ↗ Twitter functions in that capacity uh I

13:18 ↗ think a lot of municipalities are trying

13:20 ↗ to keep up and make sure that stays best

13:23 ↗ source of being information in that

13:27 ↗ direction

13:31 ↗ all righty as Tom already alluded to

13:32 ↗ newsletters is another thing we do uh

13:35 ↗ there's a few of them now i' only

13:36 ↗ highlight two on here The isqua Insider

13:39 ↗ is our Weekly Newsletter usually goes

13:40 ↗ out on Fridays more usually

13:42 ↗ forward-looking highlighting events that

13:44 ↗ are coming up or um important

13:47 ↗ information for the community then we

13:48 ↗ have mayor Paulie's more periodic

13:50 ↗ newsletter where she um highlights

13:53 ↗ topics that she finds of Greater

13:54 ↗ importance to be sure to share with the

13:57 ↗ public we help organize that that and

13:59 ↗ then two not pictured here that are

14:01 ↗ relatively new is the park bench so

14:03 ↗ that's where our Parkson Community

14:04 ↗ Services Department goes as a my of

14:07 ↗ magude mostly around Parks information

14:09 ↗ so uh registration dates Camp

14:12 ↗ information those kind of things is the

14:14 ↗ type of topics covered there and I think

14:16 ↗ we're getting ready for issue number two

14:19 ↗ of green isquat so that is devoted

14:21 ↗ purely to um our Green isquat Team which

14:24 ↗ is our park rangers uh for supervisor um

14:28 ↗ information there usually tied to

14:31 ↗ Restoration events and things like that

14:33 ↗ but just another way to kind of build in

14:34 ↗ that content those two are very topic

14:41 ↗ specific next up um I mentioned all of

14:44 ↗ the various videos that we kind of have

14:46 ↗ to cover uh the city's YouTube channel

14:48 ↗ and tying into

14:49 ↗ ictv so this is another platform we has

14:53 ↗ a lot all the required elements like

14:55 ↗ boards commission stuff and city council

14:57 ↗ things but also any time the city does

14:59 ↗ any kind of work that is video related

15:01 ↗ it ends up on this platform too so

15:02 ↗ another great place for people

15:04 ↗ interested in keeping up what the city

15:05 ↗ is doing is subscribing to our YouTube

15:07 ↗ channel uh one of the elements to that

15:10 ↗ are the various podcasts that we do I'm

15:13 ↗ not sure if everyone's familiar with

15:14 ↗ them all uh the two big ones are Isa

15:17 ↗ Buzz which is done between um a couple

15:21 ↗ staff members really focuses on economic

15:23 ↗ development and kind of business rumors

15:25 ↗ we we heard years ago that uh people

15:28 ↗ really since the loss of the regional

15:30 ↗ paper it's hard to keep up on all the

15:32 ↗ kind of changing businesses in town and

15:34 ↗ this was a fun and unique way to

15:36 ↗ highlight rumors that are happening

15:38 ↗ around town and uh give people

15:39 ↗ perspective on things as well as invite

15:42 ↗ local guests on to kind of talk about

15:43 ↗ their businesses so we've highlighted a

15:45 ↗ number of local ones I think my favorite

15:47 ↗ one might have been the chocolate one we

15:48 ↗ did about three or four months ago with

15:50 ↗ um a fortunado just heing the back story

15:53 ↗ there so it's a great channel to hear

15:54 ↗ things the other one is uniquely isqua

15:57 ↗ that one is hosted by the mayor uh she

16:00 ↗ again likes to have a moment to

16:02 ↗ interview and talk with um either local

16:05 ↗ businesses or uh just residents who

16:08 ↗ either have a great story to tell or

16:11 ↗ things like that so both great channels

16:14 ↗ that kind of highlight unique content in

16:16 ↗ the

16:20 ↗ city next up is neighborhood engagement

16:22 ↗ so this uh platform has changed a little

16:25 ↗ bit over the years before the pandemic

16:27 ↗ we had a neighborhood engagement

16:28 ↗ coordinator

16:29 ↗ who was really focused on being that

16:31 ↗ conduit for all the neighborhoods to

16:32 ↗ really hear what they need to do uh we

16:34 ↗ had some different staff changes during

16:36 ↗ the pandemic and really now neighborhood

16:38 ↗ engagement falls on the communic team as

16:40 ↗ a whole uh how we look to handle that is

16:43 ↗ be that voice be that um Avenue for them

16:47 ↗ to hear any concerns they have but also

16:49 ↗ to open up more neighborhood type

16:51 ↗ meetings so uh between having Council

16:54 ↗ listening sessions that kind of revolve

16:56 ↗ around town to each neighborhood and to

16:58 ↗ uh attending HOA meetings those kind of

17:00 ↗ things uh we really want to make sure we

17:03 ↗ provide that opportunity for

17:05 ↗ neighborhoods to feel like they're heard

17:07 ↗ and understand what concerns they have

17:09 ↗ on a very localized level not

17:10 ↗ necessarily just a Citywide

17:12 ↗ perspective um that has been super

17:15 ↗ successful in the past but obviously

17:16 ↗ during the pandemic uh when they shifted

17:18 ↗ to mostly hybrid and fully remote

17:20 ↗ settings those a little tougher to keep

17:22 ↗ up and it's a goal of enging this team

17:23 ↗ to really revisit those in 2023 to bring

17:26 ↗ them back in person and and make sure

17:28 ↗ sure that that conduit is there

17:31 ↗ again yeah question do those include the

17:34 ↗ neighborhood meetings that like for a

17:36 ↗ given Pro like we we in our national or

17:40 ↗ our natural environment checklist those

17:42 ↗ will often be associated with a

17:43 ↗ neighborhood meeting associated with a

17:45 ↗ project is that the type of meeting here

17:47 ↗ that we they can have some overlap I

17:49 ↗ think uh for the most part when we look

17:51 ↗ at neighborhood engagement here we're

17:52 ↗ trying to find those points when you

17:54 ↗ know if we haven't heard from a

17:55 ↗ particular neighborhood on a topic in a

17:57 ↗ while and wanted see if there are any

17:59 ↗ concerns we'll set up one outside of

18:00 ↗ that but if there are other neighborhood

18:02 ↗ meetings that are required as part of

18:04 ↗ project um elements sometimes there's

18:05 ↗ some overlap that find them too so and

18:08 ↗ is it is it your your team though that

18:10 ↗ would coordinate those neighborhood

18:11 ↗ meetings that are required the required

18:13 ↗ ones are usually done to the project

18:14 ↗ manager so if there's an environmental

18:17 ↗ uh impact things like that that require

18:18 ↗ a neighborhood Meeting those are usually

18:20 ↗ through Comm Planning and Development we

18:22 ↗ can assist with making sure a location

18:24 ↗ is chosen that's really accessible for

18:25 ↗ everyone but they're the subject matter

18:27 ↗ experts on those isues I wouldn't want

18:28 ↗ to step on any toes saying something

18:30 ↗ about the environment uh you know

18:32 ↗ requirements for forting that I have no

18:34 ↗ idea about yeah the one thing I'd be

18:36 ↗ curious about is is there there all the

18:38 ↗ best practices that are being applied

18:40 ↗ for the engagement style neighborhood

18:42 ↗ meetings or like non-required ones are

18:44 ↗ those being transferred over into how

18:46 ↗ the Outreach for the required meetings

18:48 ↗ are being basically messaged to the

18:50 ↗ community yeah that's a great question I

18:52 ↗ I can definitely check with media

18:54 ↗ Planning Development to see if they've

18:56 ↗ uh if the format for those meetings is

19:00 ↗ is rigid in terms of what they have to

19:01 ↗ do or there some worries that we can

19:03 ↗ encourage just from our experience with

19:05 ↗ hosting the other style that may elicit

19:07 ↗ better conversation yeah and I mean less

19:09 ↗ the like format for the meetings itself

19:11 ↗ but more so the messaging and like

19:13 ↗ basically visibility to the community

19:16 ↗ like

19:16 ↗ basic how you get people in so what

19:20 ↗ happens at the meeting itself I hear

19:22 ↗ what you're saying yeah I think that's

19:23 ↗ another we can look at I know there are

19:25 ↗ requirements So within a certain of feet

19:27 ↗ those people are for sure get Outreach

19:28 ↗ done to them but that doesn't mean

19:30 ↗ that's the only people affected by any

19:31 ↗ of those decisions so we can talk to

19:33 ↗ them and see if there's um some

19:35 ↗ methodologies we can improve on for

19:37 ↗ hours no that's great thank you so if

19:40 ↗ you know a topic that really needs some

19:42 ↗ neighborhood engagement how do people

19:44 ↗ reach out to you sure great question um

19:48 ↗ we hope we're accessible by a lot of

19:50 ↗ different venues for people but that

19:51 ↗ doesn't necessarily mean they're always

19:52 ↗ tied in the same uh we can easily be

19:55 ↗ reached out to by social media by we

19:58 ↗ have group email addresses for

19:59 ↗ communications at is w.gov uh we try and

20:02 ↗ touch base with a lot of the HOAs in the

20:04 ↗ area too to be sure if they're hearing

20:06 ↗ anything we can get Word of Mouth back

20:08 ↗ to us to make sure um and obviously if

20:11 ↗ uh those issues want to be raised to

20:13 ↗ city council they would then direct them

20:15 ↗ to us to make sure to reach out to those

20:16 ↗ groups so uh I think there's a a lot of

20:19 ↗ ways can be done if there are other

20:20 ↗ methods that you potentially are

20:22 ↗ debating wondering if you're kind of

20:24 ↗ leading towards something well there

20:26 ↗ there's a strong neighborhood set right

20:28 ↗ now going on and that's why I'm asking

20:30 ↗ the question in my neighborhood sure

20:32 ↗ especially the school starting and the

20:33 ↗ traffic in old and forgive me which

20:36 ↗ neighborhood would that be Oldtown

20:37 ↗ Oldtown okay High School traffic again

20:40 ↗ it's all right that time yeah here it

20:42 ↗ comes and the whole my street gets

20:45 ↗ really upset about it so um we don't

20:48 ↗ feel I don't even so at some point it

20:51 ↗ would be nice to get people together

20:53 ↗ yeah a lot of new

20:55 ↗ people that's always a good time too if

20:57 ↗ there's change over over the

20:58 ↗ neighborhood and they don't have the

20:59 ↗ same information we make sure hear those

21:01 ↗ voices so yeah uh we'll uh look into

21:04 ↗ that and N I think we'll figure out a

21:06 ↗ good location for potentially talking

21:08 ↗ about that topic making sure we have the

21:10 ↗ right people in place right I it's one

21:11 ↗ thing to have myself uh there but if

21:14 ↗ we're talking traffic and and just

21:16 ↗ overall congestion it's good to have the

21:18 ↗ engineers from public works also there

21:20 ↗ to answer those

21:22 ↗ questions great

21:26 ↗ question all right uh this is the second

21:29 ↗ part of a thing is there anything else

21:31 ↗ anyone's curious about just from

21:32 ↗ Communications in general from the

21:35 ↗ city can you share a little bit about

21:38 ↗ the plan like you alluded to it a bit

21:41 ↗ but um not so much the changes that

21:44 ↗ happen as a result of Co but any of the

21:47 ↗ like what's how things are going to be

21:48 ↗ phased back in in terms of inperson

21:50 ↗ versus um remote and how you're thinking

21:53 ↗ about hybrid some of these events yeah

21:56 ↗ so the cre team feels that now in 2023

22:00 ↗ we want to make inperson meetings the

22:03 ↗ standard and there are topics or there

22:05 ↗ are groups that it makes sense to

22:07 ↗ consider more variables and make sure

22:09 ↗ that there's a lower barrier to entry

22:11 ↗ but I think for the most part we're

22:13 ↗ advocating when we meet with project

22:14 ↗ managers to host inperson meetings to

22:16 ↗ really make sure the community can see

22:18 ↗ people face to face to fail know kind of

22:21 ↗ formulate those questions as best as

22:23 ↗ possible um that is the standard we're

22:25 ↗ going with but obviously like I said

22:27 ↗ there's sometimes different groups that

22:28 ↗ make sense to make sure we apply that

22:30 ↗ hybrid setting so we can be sure to hear

22:32 ↗ from as many community members as

22:34 ↗ possible yeah have you thought of giving

22:36 ↗ the communities a choice in terms of

22:39 ↗ whether they meet in person or virtually

22:41 ↗ or have yeah so we do often reach out I

22:45 ↗ think it depends on the audience

22:47 ↗ sometimes we're talking uh physical in

22:50 ↗ terms of demographics like either it's a

22:51 ↗ neighborhood itself or we're trying to

22:53 ↗ reach out to a specific section of the

22:55 ↗ public uh I'm let's say uh I know we

22:58 ↗ have some meting to around 88 clients so

23:01 ↗ um Dale who's running that project has

23:03 ↗ reached out to that Community to really

23:04 ↗ be like okay here's the topic in

23:06 ↗ question here's a facility that we could

23:08 ↗ host it uh the topic of Mind lends

23:10 ↗ itself well to making sure it's a hybrid

23:12 ↗ setting so people don't feel like they

23:13 ↗ need to attend in person especially for

23:14 ↗ that topic so uh they do reach out on

23:17 ↗ occasion are you thinking more like are

23:18 ↗ you physically like neighborhoods and

23:20 ↗ things like that offering options and

23:22 ↗ then I guess my other question is do you

23:25 ↗ meet in the neighborhood or do you have

23:27 ↗ them come to you

23:28 ↗ it depends on again the topic I think it

23:30 ↗ were it's very localized to a a specific

23:34 ↗ setting black bar Park's a great example

23:36 ↗ um we had meetings in the park itself

23:38 ↗ because the neighborhood was really

23:39 ↗ focused on learning more about what the

23:42 ↗ the next project stages were going to be

23:44 ↗ um if the topic is likely to be quite

23:47 ↗ interesting to a larger percentage of

23:49 ↗ residents we want to make sure we choose

23:50 ↗ a location that can house everyone

23:52 ↗ comfortably so those tend to be uh City

23:54 ↗ locations but that's definitely

23:55 ↗ something to consider if if we're a

23:57 ↗ determining if this needs to be

23:58 ↗ something in the neighborhoods or if we

24:00 ↗ need to find a location that needs that

24:02 ↗ be housed by everyone and then when you

24:05 ↗ have these meetings are you usually

24:06 ↗ having them um after traffic iside down

24:11 ↗ ideally yes I would say the average

24:12 ↗ meetings usually start from five and

24:14 ↗ seven um again depending on what the

24:16 ↗ audiences are we do consider that part

24:18 ↗ of the toolkit is to really look at who

24:20 ↗ is your invested audience who's likely

24:23 ↗ to want to attend and um are things like

24:27 ↗ making sure

24:28 ↗ uh the meeting starts at a time that's

24:30 ↗ comfortable for those meeting in or

24:32 ↗ needing to find Child Care those kind of

24:33 ↗ things are considered for

24:35 ↗ sure so in tell me way again like that

24:38 ↗ you feel it's better um to meet in

24:41 ↗ person rather than hybrid or sure virtu

24:45 ↗ that's what they want to do yeah if if

24:47 ↗ we hear that that's a a preference from

24:50 ↗ the the audience who're trying to reach

24:51 ↗ out we'd obviously look at making

24:52 ↗ Corrections or adjustments to the format

24:56 ↗ uh what we heard from residents for most

24:58 ↗ of the last 18 months is the preference

25:01 ↗ for in-person meetings so that was the

25:03 ↗ the reason we we've advocated to bring

25:05 ↗ those back to a more standardized

25:09 ↗ format cool yeah so whatever is the

25:12 ↗ preference for people I guess what I'm

25:14 ↗ thinking about is traffic congestion and

25:17 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions and our goals

25:19 ↗ to

25:23 ↗ reduce 50% by 203 or 2035 yeah

25:28 ↗ yeah I mean that's that's definitely a

25:29 ↗ constraint right yeah and I think we

25:31 ↗ missed our 2020 goal so I'm hoping we

25:33 ↗ meet our 2030 or

25:35 ↗ 2030 certainly that's that's definitely

25:37 ↗ a constraint I think what we found was

25:40 ↗ the the residents felt less heard when

25:43 ↗ they were sitting behind a computer

25:45 ↗ trying to talk to Residents um not that

25:48 ↗ that's you know concern for congestion

25:50 ↗ and overall gr gas shouldn't be consider

25:52 ↗ I think it's taken as a larger package

25:54 ↗ to try and determine it um if if we hear

25:58 ↗ otherwise from the community we're

26:00 ↗ always actively trying to make sure that

26:01 ↗ platform fits best that's kind of where

26:03 ↗ we're sitting right now yeah and maybe

26:05 ↗ they have a um maybe some of the

26:08 ↗ communities have a nice place to

26:10 ↗ meet yeah

26:12 ↗ think ideally something like that would

26:15 ↗ feel uh most approachable uh we had a

26:18 ↗ listening session at the atlas

26:19 ↗ Apartments really interest in a Lobby

26:21 ↗ right there which I think afforded

26:23 ↗ residents who perhaps wouldn't come to

26:25 ↗ an average city council meeting or come

26:28 ↗ all way down the city hall a chance to

26:30 ↗ experience uh being able to speak with

26:32 ↗ city council members in a different

26:33 ↗ atmosphere and um from those who showed

26:35 ↗ up they really enjoyed it so I think

26:37 ↗ that's something else again finding

26:38 ↗ those locations that are more

26:39 ↗ approachable to the residents you're

26:40 ↗ trying to reach um and lowering the

26:42 ↗ barrier as much as possible it's always

26:44 ↗ good yeah and I would think that if you

26:46 ↗ go to them that you might have a greater

26:48 ↗ turnout as well you know if you're right

26:50 ↗ in their neighborhood and they just have

26:51 ↗ to walk over hopefully it's super

26:53 ↗ convenient couple

26:55 ↗ blocks yeah exactly

26:58 ↗ any other questions before we switch

26:59 ↗ over to the to Kit sure uh yeah so I

27:03 ↗ I dug out an old this La Insider

27:07 ↗ newsletter a couple of years ago and

27:09 ↗ tried to follow the links to the content

27:12 ↗ and the links were

27:14 ↗ broken so disappointing know what um do

27:18 ↗ you have a solution for that problem

27:20 ↗ yeah I I think I remember this this

27:22 ↗ conversation um I brought this up

27:25 ↗ before no it's it's it's certainly one

27:28 ↗ that um from an archival perspective

27:31 ↗ isn't suited to the way we currently

27:33 ↗ handle the newsletter so topics within

27:36 ↗ our our website are relevant for certain

27:39 ↗ periods of time we feel uh we don't need

27:41 ↗ to keep every single news item that

27:43 ↗ comes out because that causes a lot of

27:45 ↗ bloat in terms of the size of the

27:46 ↗ website we have to maintain so if we

27:48 ↗ have a survey open for three or four

27:51 ↗ weeks we'll be sure to um have that news

27:53 ↗ item open that entire time frame and a

27:55 ↗ little bit beyond it so people can find

27:56 ↗ it still but uh

27:58 ↗ 12 months or 18 months later that link

28:00 ↗ would no longer work um there's not

28:02 ↗ really an easy solution based off the

28:03 ↗ way we currently build out the

28:05 ↗ newsletters using the software we do to

28:07 ↗ kind of alleviate that but that's also

28:10 ↗ because the material you're looking for

28:12 ↗ doesn't really exist we we don't treat

28:14 ↗ the website as an archive for long-term

28:16 ↗ purposes um our city clerks do with

28:19 ↗ their their end to the website

28:20 ↗ everything required by um uh policies

28:25 ↗ and things like that are stored for long

28:26 ↗ term so you can find them time but uh

28:28 ↗ smaller news items and things like that

28:30 ↗ are are time sensitive so they kind of

28:32 ↗ disappear so we don't really have a way

28:33 ↗ to address that

28:35 ↗ unfortunately well um my opinion is that

28:38 ↗ just as you have a duty to communicate

28:41 ↗ and engage with the public as a and the

28:44 ↗ city is doing a commendable job doing

28:46 ↗ that there is also duty to capture the

28:48 ↗ history of what's going on in our Bela

28:51 ↗ little town and especially in the

28:53 ↗ context of the demise of local

28:56 ↗ journalism and squat press going away

28:59 ↗ Etc well what is capturing the history

29:02 ↗ of the Town um most newsletters now all

29:06 ↗ the nonprofits and the governmental

29:08 ↗ entities are following the same sort of

29:10 ↗ pattern there's an email with links to

29:12 ↗ content somewhere else which is

29:14 ↗ transient and so we're we're we're

29:17 ↗ reporting real time very well but we're

29:21 ↗ capturing nothing for history and U so I

29:26 ↗ I think I think the city should evaluate

29:29 ↗ that and put some effort into solving

29:32 ↗ that problem and and uh actually it may

29:35 ↗ be something to bring up with your

29:38 ↗ platform provider Civic Civic Plus or

29:42 ↗ what it was um because this is not a

29:45 ↗ problem just with this it is a problem

29:47 ↗ everywhere this is the common way

29:50 ↗ communication is occurring and uh many

29:54 ↗ entities governmental agencies and

29:56 ↗ otherwise have this problem of

29:58 ↗ generating newsletters which are lost

30:01 ↗ and wouldn't that be great if you could

30:03 ↗ push a button to fetch all that content

30:06 ↗ and generate it into a PDF that can be

30:08 ↗ then stuck somewhere and is an archival

30:12 ↗ thing which doesn't depend upon the ls

30:14 ↗ to places with that no longer exist yeah

30:18 ↗ so will you take that action item I will

30:20 ↗ absolutely take a back and look at it

30:22 ↗ and see if there's some solutions to

30:24 ↗ potentially Implement to kind of capture

30:25 ↗ that data I would like to just say that

30:29 ↗ Tom has done an excellent job capturing

30:32 ↗ the history of the S TRS Club um yeah so

30:37 ↗ because we all we had physical

30:39 ↗ newsletters and now we have digital

30:42 ↗ newsletters and um he's AR he archives

30:45 ↗ everything now so you just click on the

30:47 ↗ archive and you can go to whatever Mir

30:49 ↗ you want all the way back

30:51 ↗ to yeah well thank you an so yeah I have

30:56 ↗ solved that problem for is's Trails Club

30:59 ↗ but not without some pain it takes me

31:01 ↗ about an hour each time and I have some

31:04 ↗ two strips that I've built up to help

31:06 ↗ pull all those pieces together and grab

31:09 ↗ the HTML and then I merge it all into

31:11 ↗ word and fix things up and generate a

31:13 ↗ PDF done sometimes it only is a half an

31:16 ↗ hour but I mean you know it's work and

31:19 ↗ it's work that could be streamlined and

31:22 ↗ automated through more powerful

31:24 ↗ scripting uh tools and hey the the

31:29 ↗ website platform company Civic they

31:32 ↗ should they should solve this because

31:34 ↗ then many could benefit from such a

31:36 ↗ wonderful toour but I think it's it's

31:39 ↗ worth the effort to do something about

31:42 ↗ it even if it's not perfect it might be

31:45 ↗ good enough to capture something not a

31:49 ↗ form that would really be suitable for

31:51 ↗ publication but might be suitable for

31:54 ↗ archival purposes at least we captured

31:57 ↗ the content in a way that can be

31:59 ↗ referenced in the future and the city

32:02 ↗ recognizes uh the duty to maintain the

32:06 ↗ history of the of the community by

32:08 ↗ supporting Isco History

32:10 ↗ Museum and

32:13 ↗ they they don't have the resources to

32:16 ↗ solve this problem for all the

32:18 ↗ generators of content throughout the

32:20 ↗ city either but um that's that's kind of

32:24 ↗ ties in with the recognized

32:27 ↗ responsibility of City towards

32:29 ↗ maintaining the culture and history of

32:33 ↗ the

32:33 ↗ Town unod yeah we will definitely look

32:36 ↗ into it and see if there's some

32:37 ↗ solutions that we can either advocate

32:39 ↗ for or perhaps

32:41 ↗ Implement thank you absolutely love

32:45 ↗ it Al righty uh second part of today and

32:48 ↗ I know I'm already going along I

32:50 ↗ apologize Stacy uh is I will briefly

32:53 ↗ talk about the public engagement toolkit

32:55 ↗ review that we've recently updated

32:57 ↗ um this is feel free to advance the

33:00 ↗ slide uh the toolkit is an internal tool

33:02 ↗ so like I said we use it to work with

33:05 ↗ project managers as they uh start to

33:07 ↗ plan out what their projects look like

33:10 ↗ um it highlights tools and and previous

33:12 ↗ experiences that the communications team

33:15 ↗ has pulled together to highlight um ways

33:18 ↗ to get the project done most effectively

33:20 ↗ and making sure we capture public

33:22 ↗ Outreach when it's most pressing and

33:24 ↗ most important to both the project

33:26 ↗ managers and the community inv involved

33:29 ↗ so um at the highest level it's a guide

33:32 ↗ we uh be sure to um highlight the tools

33:35 ↗ that are possible but it's been refined

33:37 ↗ year over-ear to make sure what we see

33:39 ↗ that's successful is implemented as a

33:41 ↗ best practice moving

33:43 ↗ forward I believe there was a a version

33:45 ↗ of the toolkit in the attachment so feel

33:47 ↗ free to browse around um I pulled in a

33:50 ↗ couple example worksheets here that that

33:52 ↗ highlight what we're doing that's the

33:54 ↗ biggest change we had this time the

33:55 ↗ previous version read more more like a

33:57 ↗ resource document so project managers

33:59 ↗ could pull it off the shelf kind of

34:00 ↗ revisit it a little bit but what we did

34:02 ↗ now is turn it into worksheet so they

34:04 ↗ can take it off multiple times as they

34:06 ↗ get to different phases in their

34:07 ↗ projects fill it out as needed and then

34:10 ↗ work with Communications to devise a

34:12 ↗ strategy U as you can see on one of

34:14 ↗ these like here um there's lots of areas

34:16 ↗ to fill in lots of links to various

34:18 ↗ projects Communications team is planning

34:21 ↗ to actively keep this up to date for

34:23 ↗ project managers so as we hear and see

34:26 ↗ projects that are good representations

34:27 ↗ of different levels uh we can update

34:30 ↗ those areas as well Don question yeah

34:33 ↗ thank you Don CL um so this is a pretty

34:35 ↗ robust um toolkit here it's very well

34:38 ↗ done thank you is this mandatory on all

34:41 ↗ of all the big CIP projects is it is it

34:44 ↗ widely used is it accepted yes it is it

34:47 ↗ is absolutely required uh so it helps us

34:50 ↗ U make sure because every project would

34:52 ↗ come to Communications as I led to

34:53 ↗ earlier we help make sure the uh project

34:55 ↗ Outreach is done effectively

34:57 ↗ but to understand the parameters uh I'm

35:00 ↗ not an engineer so I need them to

35:02 ↗ provide me what's happening and this is

35:04 ↗ a great document for them to fill out as

35:06 ↗ they're looking through all the details

35:07 ↗ and bringing it to us to help us

35:09 ↗ understand what the constraints

35:13 ↗ are

35:15 ↗ um so I I uh enjoy the communication

35:19 ↗ from the city and the newsletter going

35:21 ↗ in Choosing My subscriptions and then

35:24 ↗ there's another page where you can say

35:26 ↗ I'm interested in the following things

35:28 ↗ news about particular neighborhood Etc

35:31 ↗ where I've been a little bit frustrated

35:32 ↗ is I might there might be a specific

35:34 ↗ project that I'm anticipate for example

35:37 ↗ the the uh Spar The Pump Station Spar

35:42 ↗ thing I I maybe I just didn't check the

35:44 ↗ right boxes or whatever uh so I I would

35:48 ↗ like to see a little more clarity to

35:51 ↗ Project Specific Communications and so

35:54 ↗ like on the page uh that as tools used

35:58 ↗ you know project status report delivered

36:01 ↗ to interested parties via email sort of

36:04 ↗ thing so uh I would like to be able to

36:07 ↗ say yeah I'm specifically interested in

36:09 ↗ in updates uh for specific

36:12 ↗ projects and and I don't know it's my

36:16 ↗ perception that U most projects don't

36:19 ↗ get regular updates and doesn't have the

36:23 ↗ resources to do this every day or every

36:25 ↗ week or something but um the East Lake

36:28 ↗ samamish uh Trail uh which is under the

36:32 ↗ jurisdiction of King County I I'll point

36:34 ↗ to that as an example they do a weekly

36:37 ↗ status report and I'm have subscribed to

36:40 ↗ that and I enjoy getting it and you know

36:42 ↗ it's a trail that I'm very interested in

36:44 ↗ as soon as it's ready I want to go take

36:46 ↗ a ride on it and all that so you know I

36:48 ↗ don't look at every one of them but I

36:49 ↗ enjoy getting it I I would be content

36:51 ↗ with monthly or something any I offer

36:54 ↗ that as an example of the kind of

36:55 ↗ Engagement that I

36:57 ↗ like to get for projects that I'm

36:59 ↗ interested in the city i' I say yes I do

37:02 ↗ want status reports regularly and I

37:04 ↗ wonder know what's going on with that

37:06 ↗ and be able to have Clarity that I have

37:08 ↗ selected that and then receive it by

37:12 ↗ email so that's just a suggestion I have

37:14 ↗ on that thank you that's a great one uh

37:17 ↗ it's not you're not the first person to

37:18 ↗ bring it up I think we've uh toyed with

37:20 ↗ the idea of building out lists per

37:22 ↗ project uh usually the problem stems

37:25 ↗ from what to do once the project

37:26 ↗ finishes this audience that they're

37:28 ↗ invested in um let's use a spar project

37:31 ↗ as a great example there might be other

37:32 ↗ things that they're uh actively

37:34 ↗ interested in but based off spam WS we

37:37 ↗ can't actually use that list anymore

37:39 ↗ once we've finished the project so it

37:41 ↗ wouldn't be able like to say we finished

37:43 ↗ a spar project if we had a different

37:46 ↗ Trail project that we think there'd be a

37:47 ↗ lot of overlap we couldn't then reach

37:49 ↗ out to that group uh with that same list

37:52 ↗ the compromise then was to try to build

37:54 ↗ them out by category so if you're really

37:55 ↗ interested in parks and Community

37:57 ↗ Services type things so that's what

37:59 ↗ trails would kind of fall under

38:00 ↗ everything in Parks we could then push

38:02 ↗ out to that list as well so there's kind

38:03 ↗ of a continuation on topics um but I

38:06 ↗ think it's a great idea I think it's not

38:08 ↗ not the first time we've heard it

38:09 ↗ something it's more Project Specific um

38:11 ↗ we can look into some options that might

38:13 ↗ be able to it wouldn't be a continuation

38:16 ↗ but at least you would feel like you

38:17 ↗ were informed on that project before it

38:19 ↗ ended great thank you some of the other

38:22 ↗ larger cities and you guys probably have

38:24 ↗ the resources but they'll develop web

38:25 ↗ page for every project then you can

38:27 ↗ click on it and add your name for that

38:30 ↗ project yeah that secondary feature once

38:32 ↗ it's already on the website uh it's one

38:34 ↗ of the other ones that we've looked at

38:35 ↗ again I think that we come back to the

38:37 ↗ idea that it's once the Project's over

38:39 ↗ how do we keep it informed with that

38:40 ↗ audience if we technically can't anymore

38:42 ↗ because of spam law but again it's

38:43 ↗ something we can look into see if

38:44 ↗ there's a way around that close the list

38:48 ↗ yeah all righty um so I didn't put all

38:52 ↗ the pages on here that was in the

38:54 ↗ attachment if you feel free to look

38:55 ↗ through if there's anything in

38:56 ↗ particular you have any feedback on or

38:59 ↗ interest in I'm happy to answer those

39:00 ↗ questions but these were the bigger ones

39:03 ↗ as I alluded to the usefulness has been

39:05 ↗ changed from a um more of a resource to

39:08 ↗ a guiding document the worksheets make

39:10 ↗ that a little bit easier we took the

39:12 ↗ toolkit to the equity board before it

39:15 ↗ was finalized to make sure they had a

39:17 ↗ chance to review the equity improvements

39:20 ↗ that we've made and and get feedback

39:22 ↗ from them and then uh the identification

39:25 ↗ of additional tools that were not in the

39:27 ↗ previous version of toolkit so we've

39:28 ↗ updated those as

39:32 ↗ well uh and we've had a robust con I'll

39:35 ↗ happily take any more questions should

39:36 ↗ that be

39:42 ↗ here so on on the last page I think it

39:47 ↗ was report and evaluate and there's a

39:49 ↗ box about what did I learn that will

39:52 ↗ inform something so that's that's I was

39:55 ↗ happy to see that box so it's kind of a

39:57 ↗ Lessons Learned step in the process well

39:59 ↗ what went right what went wrong how are

40:02 ↗ we going to address that moving forward

40:04 ↗ I guess I I wanted to suggest

40:08 ↗ maybe uh adding some more words there

40:11 ↗ about included in that would be looking

40:14 ↗ for systemic weaknesses in the process

40:18 ↗ what what things didn't work well in

40:20 ↗ terms of the pro oh the reason why we

40:22 ↗ didn't think about that is because

40:23 ↗ there's a there's a process failure over

40:26 ↗ here in this particular in public works

40:28 ↗ blah blah blah or whatever so I just

40:31 ↗ reminding the reviewer that okay let's

40:34 ↗ look for systemic process in our

40:36 ↗ internal

40:38 ↗ processes instead of weaknesses in our

40:40 ↗ internal processes a refinement

40:44 ↗ to sure yeah I think that's a great

40:47 ↗ idea any other

40:53 ↗ questions thank you for your time um sor

40:56 ↗ sorry Stacy for running so well

40:58 ↗ okay all right all right we are about 15

41:02 ↗ minutes over just not that we have to

41:05 ↗ rush through everything else but just

41:06 ↗ for everyone's awareness that's where we

41:07 ↗ are um I think that was because of our

41:10 ↗ questions not because of the

41:11 ↗ presentation so apologize lots of

41:14 ↗ questions are not a bad

41:16 ↗ thing yeah uh so next up we have

41:20 ↗ comprehensive Plan update um I think

41:23 ↗ Stephen probably be taken away from here

41:30 ↗ hi good evening everyone can you see my

41:32 ↗ screen yes we can okay perfect thank

41:38 ↗ you okay good evening um thank you again

41:42 ↗ my name is Ste I'm the long-range

41:43 ↗ planning manager with Community Planning

41:45 ↗ Development and tonight uh the purpose

41:47 ↗ of my presentation is to do initial

41:50 ↗ review with you of the goals draft goals

41:52 ↗ and policies for the new element that's

41:54 ↗ going to be going into the comprehensive

41:55 ↗ plan

41:57 ↗ for tonight we have uh three questions

42:00 ↗ for you for Simplicity I'll be asking

42:03 ↗ the first question as I'm going through

42:05 ↗ the slides with the draft goals and

42:07 ↗ policies just so um because I have a lot

42:10 ↗ of slides to go through with you tonight

42:12 ↗ and then at the very end uh Stacy and I

42:14 ↗ will discuss the last two questions with

42:16 ↗ you at the very

42:21 ↗ end so before I get started I want to

42:23 ↗ provide a just a brief reminder about

42:26 ↗ what this project

42:31 ↗ is as you know the comprehensive plan is

42:34 ↗ a required longrange planning document

42:36 ↗ uh required from the growth management

42:39 ↗ act um which is focusing on kind of that

42:42 ↗ 20-year time frame for this update we

42:45 ↗ have to incorporate changes that comply

42:47 ↗ with the state Regional and County

42:49 ↗ requirements which address multiple

42:51 ↗ different topics and through the

42:53 ↗ different elements and then we'll cover

42:55 ↗ those as we talk through the different

43:02 ↗ elements um all the elements that are on

43:05 ↗ station these are

43:06 ↗ all we're working on you can see the two

43:10 ↗ that are highlighted are two that are

43:13 ↗ actually not required by the state that

43:15 ↗ we incorporate into a comprehensive plan

43:17 ↗ and we are building in a new environment

43:21 ↗ based or or specific element that we are

43:25 ↗ all discussing tonight

43:28 ↗ so the scope of the update for the new

43:30 ↗ element will incorporate several

43:32 ↗ different goals the first is uh first

43:35 ↗ finding compliance for House Bill 1181 I

43:38 ↗ think as I mentioned at the last meeting

43:40 ↗ we're actually not required to comply

43:43 ↗ with this new bill until

43:46 ↗ 2029 but we actually have a lot of the

43:49 ↗ foundational Concepts that are listed on

43:51 ↗ the screen that is now required by this

43:54 ↗ bill to be incorporated into the

43:55 ↗ comprehensive plan plan so we're

43:57 ↗ actually looking at how best to

43:59 ↗ structure and how we how best we can

44:01 ↗ comply with um this bill sooner than

44:05 ↗ 2029 I think the only thing that we're

44:08 ↗ still needing more formal guidance on is

44:11 ↗ um the language in the bill that looks

44:13 ↗ at multimodal level of service for

44:16 ↗ transportation but we are looking to uh

44:19 ↗ have discussions around concurrency in

44:21 ↗ the coming years which may be addressing

44:23 ↗ that uh new requirement from this bill

44:26 ↗ Ste we do have a

44:27 ↗ question here that's all right yeah

44:31 ↗ please just a quick question Nancy

44:33 ↗ Davidson um how frequently do you have

44:35 ↗ to update the comprehensive

44:37 ↗ plan so you the periodic update that's

44:41 ↗ required by the state act actually has

44:44 ↗ to be done every um it's going to be

44:47 ↗ every eight 10 years previously it was

44:50 ↗ required every eight years but the

44:51 ↗ legislature just changed

44:53 ↗ it the city is s actually goes through

44:57 ↗ um annual updates which are optional to

44:59 ↗ do frequent updates to the comprehensive

45:01 ↗ plan but we're we're looking to actually

45:03 ↗ do less of that so we can actually focus

45:05 ↗ more on the implementation of a lot of

45:07 ↗ this long range Vision rather than

45:09 ↗ constantly having to go back into the

45:10 ↗ conference plant to to update Park goals

45:13 ↗ and

45:15 ↗ policies are there any I can't see the

45:17 ↗ whole room are there any other questions

45:19 ↗ we are good okay thank

45:24 ↗ you another goal that we're trying to

45:27 ↗ achieve with this periodic update is is

45:29 ↗ trying to get the comprehensive plan to

45:31 ↗ the level that it's it was originally

45:33 ↗ intended which is that 20-year document

45:36 ↗ that contains the city's long range

45:38 ↗ goals and

45:39 ↗ policies in the last periodic update and

45:42 ↗ every every pre previous update prior to

45:44 ↗ it we didn't have as many Boards of

45:46 ↗ commissions as well as all the

45:48 ↗ functional plans that were created for

45:50 ↗ implementing the city's Vision in the

45:52 ↗ different topic areas and so now we we

45:55 ↗ have all these different implementation

45:58 ↗ strategic or action plans built in all

46:00 ↗ the different areas we don't need all

46:03 ↗ those actions or very specific topics

46:05 ↗ identified in the compens pl so we're

46:07 ↗ actually doing that review across all

46:09 ↗ the elements to take out any of those uh

46:13 ↗ very specific policies that are actually

46:15 ↗ actions in those implementation plans

46:18 ↗ and keeping the conference plan at that

46:19 ↗ level of goals and policies and I we had

46:22 ↗ a discussion at the uh previous meeting

46:24 ↗ talking about kind of that difference

46:26 ↗ between goals and policies and and what

46:28 ↗ should be in the comprehensive plan and

46:30 ↗ what should be going into the functional

46:33 ↗ plans or or for this group the um isqua

46:36 ↗ climate action plan that focuses more on

46:38 ↗ those strategies and actions and uh

46:41 ↗ little more uh specific information

46:42 ↗ around what should be prioritized for

46:44 ↗ those that topic

46:49 ↗ area so previously I I met with the

46:52 ↗ board on April 12th and at that meeting

46:54 ↗ I got feedback on the types of the

46:56 ↗ topics and U uh goals and policies that

46:59 ↗ need to be carried over into the the new

47:02 ↗ uh element that's going to be created

47:04 ↗ into the comprehensive plan and then in

47:07 ↗ July I met again with the board and got

47:09 ↗ more feedback on those topic areas as

47:11 ↗ well as with the title that we're going

47:12 ↗ to be using for this new element and so

47:15 ↗ today I'll be diving a little bit more

47:17 ↗ into those specific draft goals and

47:23 ↗ policies so now I'm going to start

47:24 ↗ diving into those goals and policies one

47:26 ↗ thing to note is um what's listed on

47:30 ↗ your screen is how the new element is

47:32 ↗ proposed to be uh organized so a lot of

47:36 ↗ this is carryover or at least influen

47:38 ↗ from some of the topic areas from the

47:41 ↗ climate action plan and so we thought it

47:43 ↗ made sense to actually use a lot of

47:45 ↗ those topic areas for the comprehensive

47:49 ↗ plan it's also important to note that a

47:51 ↗ lot of the draft goals and policies that

47:54 ↗ are being proposed tonight are our

47:55 ↗ existing goals in the comprehensive plan

47:57 ↗ and so most of what we're proposing is

47:59 ↗ moving into this new element as well as

48:02 ↗ minor updates to some of the older goals

48:04 ↗ and policies that weren't updated with

48:07 ↗ when the IAP was

48:08 ↗ adopted before I start jumping into the

48:12 ↗ draft goals and policies are there any

48:15 ↗ questions Sten I have one question um

48:19 ↗ one main or large element in prage I

48:22 ↗ just saw yours come up so we'll go to

48:23 ↗ you next um

48:26 ↗ uh built environment and kind

48:29 ↗ of greenhouse gas as it relates to that

48:32 ↗ is that something that we would expect

48:33 ↗ to find in the in this section or is

48:35 ↗ that going to be in land

48:37 ↗ use that's that's actually a great point

48:39 ↗ so one one of the other things of

48:42 ↗ feedback we got from the April meeting

48:43 ↗ was how to define what's going to be

48:45 ↗ going in the land use element where a

48:46 ↗ lot of this originally was contained and

48:49 ↗ what's going to be moved into the

48:50 ↗ environment element and one of the the

48:53 ↗ the guidance we kind of disc discussed

48:55 ↗ at the April meeting was we are going to

48:58 ↗ maintain a lot of the policies related

49:01 ↗ to the urban environment and buildings

49:04 ↗ in the land use element and everything

49:06 ↗ specific or at least leaning more

49:08 ↗ towards the natural environment and

49:10 ↗ greenhouse gases will be moved into the

49:13 ↗ new uh the new element and so that's

49:16 ↗ kind of the differing Factor so a lot of

49:18 ↗ what you may not be seeing tonight is

49:20 ↗ actually going to be in the land use

49:21 ↗ element uh specific to buildings and

49:24 ↗ that Urban environment

49:26 ↗ okay thank you and then praj please go

49:30 ↗ ahead um hi Stephen uh this is praj and

49:34 ↗ I have a question and I apologize if

49:36 ↗ this was discussed in the April 12th

49:39 ↗ meeting I wasn't there at that time um

49:41 ↗ so seems like this is a long-term

49:44 ↗ planning you know or long-term vision

49:47 ↗ and as you rightly mentioned before

49:50 ↗ there are new boards and new commissions

49:52 ↗ and you know so the more feedback you

49:54 ↗ get the more input you get it seems like

49:57 ↗ it's always kind of a moving Target

49:59 ↗ right because you will always have input

50:01 ↗ or implementations and all so my

50:03 ↗ question was how do you you know kind of

50:05 ↗ intersect the planning framework with

50:09 ↗ actual implementation do you have

50:11 ↗ short-term goals to implement that or

50:13 ↗ how do you kind of meesh it and you know

50:15 ↗ still get the input which is required

50:19 ↗ but at the same time keep moving on the

50:21 ↗ implementation part of it as

50:24 ↗ well

50:26 ↗ I'll I'll go it sounded like there was

50:29 ↗ two questions there so the First with

50:31 ↗ the implementation portion a lot of that

50:34 ↗ is going to be captured through the IAP

50:36 ↗ and a lot of the action items and what's

50:38 ↗ prioritized through the climate action

50:40 ↗ plan um and then the metrics portion

50:44 ↗ there's metrics defined in the climate

50:47 ↗ action plan that are are going to be

50:49 ↗ recognized in the comprehensive plan but

50:52 ↗ not so specifically that that you know

50:55 ↗ one thing you'll find with

50:56 ↗ implementation is when you have certain

50:58 ↗ metrics that don't really get you the

51:00 ↗ information you get you want to actually

51:02 ↗ change that and we don't want to provide

51:05 ↗ that level of detail in the

51:06 ↗ comprehensive plan so so that we're

51:08 ↗ constantly having to go back to the

51:09 ↗ comprehensive plan to update it but

51:11 ↗ maintain that level of detail actually

51:13 ↗ in the climate action plan or the

51:15 ↗ functional

51:16 ↗ plans okay and so this will be basically

51:20 ↗ implemented in all projects with the

51:23 ↗ city is it that's the final goal or is

51:26 ↗ it just for the city of isqua for their

51:30 ↗ own development

51:31 ↗ purposes it's mainly for the city this

51:35 ↗ for this conference plan it's mainly for

51:37 ↗ the city is squ but there is

51:38 ↗ coordination um Regional coordination

51:41 ↗ and local coordination with other

51:42 ↗ jurisdictions nearby where we're wanting

51:45 ↗ to coordinate on these projects and

51:46 ↗ maintain uh a lot of the

51:49 ↗ goals okay thank

51:53 ↗ you any other questions before I get

51:56 ↗ going

51:59 ↗ okay so for this new section for

52:02 ↗ trees um the first goal we provided some

52:07 ↗ minor edits mostly with simplifying what

52:10 ↗ the goal is focus on the trees but also

52:13 ↗ to remove what we found to be a

52:15 ↗ discrepancy because previously we had a

52:16 ↗ goal around identifying a 50% tree

52:20 ↗ canopy for the city that was actually an

52:22 ↗ older goal prior to the development of

52:24 ↗ the climate action plan and then with

52:26 ↗ the climate action plan we updated it to

52:28 ↗ increase it to 55% so we took out the

52:32 ↗ 50% that was identifyed the goal and we

52:34 ↗ mve the 55% tree canopy to this new

52:39 ↗ section for the environmental element

52:42 ↗ and the

52:43 ↗ other policies for this area was uh

52:47 ↗ retention of existing trees we Tred to

52:49 ↗ simplify the language so it's a little

52:50 ↗ more specific of what we were trying to

52:53 ↗ get um for with the intent mention of

52:55 ↗ the policy and then the other two

52:56 ↗ policies were no changes for what's

52:59 ↗ being

53:01 ↗ proposed um I have one comment on this

53:05 ↗ area

53:07 ↗ um given that we're below 55 and all of

53:10 ↗ our policy in Title 18 for the most part

53:14 ↗ was about maintaining existing canopy

53:17 ↗ there seems not really a great mechanism

53:19 ↗ for us to increase it's it's more about

53:22 ↗ retaining to not lose the existing 1 or

53:25 ↗ 52% that we currently have I think one

53:29 ↗ hole that that I I felt there was in

53:32 ↗ Title 18 as well as in this plan is a

53:35 ↗ clear path to us getting to 55% tree

53:38 ↗ canopy um because everything we focus on

53:41 ↗ is retaining existing trees and there's

53:44 ↗ uh not really clear I know there's some

53:45 ↗ like tree funds and there's not really a

53:47 ↗ clear mechanism for how we would

53:49 ↗ increase so I think this is probably not

53:51 ↗ so much feedback for you Stephen because

53:52 ↗ I know you're not the one putting

53:54 ↗ together our our tree policy but like

53:56 ↗ that to me is is a weakness this one

53:59 ↗ feels like an unattainable goal because

54:01 ↗ we don't have a clear mechanism to get

54:03 ↗ to increase canopy um only we have we

54:06 ↗ seem to only have policies to retain

54:09 ↗ existing

54:10 ↗ canopy you know from what I remember

54:12 ↗ from the title 18 conversation is yes

54:14 ↗ you're correct we we do have policies

54:17 ↗ about maintaining the existing canopy

54:20 ↗ but when it comes to a lot of the Urban

54:22 ↗ Development the development of of newer

54:23 ↗ buildings particularly in Central isqua

54:26 ↗ it's actually requiring a certain

54:28 ↗ percentage of canopy or or green

54:31 ↗ coverage um for Central on that new

54:33 ↗ development that will actually help

54:35 ↗ achieve get to this this goal of 55% but

54:39 ↗ uh you know I'll have to talk with our

54:41 ↗ environmental staff a little bit more

54:42 ↗ about how is there any other policies we

54:45 ↗ might be able to consider that might be

54:46 ↗ able to push towards this

54:48 ↗ goal yeah thank you yeah and just

54:50 ↗ thinking I think there's things St I

54:52 ↗ could look at incorporating in here like

54:54 ↗ the urban forestry

54:56 ↗ plan carbon sequestration the park

54:58 ↗ strategic plan so we might be able to

55:00 ↗ point towards some of the functional

55:02 ↗ plans and make sure they then tying back

55:04 ↗ to this goal

55:05 ↗ so I know with green is while we plant

55:09 ↗ tree and you're part of that yeah yeah

55:12 ↗ well most of that though is planting

55:13 ↗ trees in existing Green Space where you

55:16 ↗ are for the most part working on

55:18 ↗ retaining or enhancing the kind of cycle

55:21 ↗ of that Forest but and there are cases

55:23 ↗ you're actually expanding but think

55:25 ↗ that's which is great I think yeah agree

55:28 ↗ like love that part of the program I'm

55:30 ↗ just not sure that that is going to get

55:32 ↗ us to the point that we're actually

55:33 ↗ increasing the tree canopy by 3% of the

55:36 ↗ whole city of isqua like that feels like

55:38 ↗ on a very different scale as well but no

55:41 ↗ I think Stacy if there's if there's

55:43 ↗ things that other elements and Stephen

55:45 ↗ as well if there's other elements that

55:47 ↗ that I may be missing but that that just

55:49 ↗ has always felt like a hole in our in

55:52 ↗ our overall plan of how we how we would

55:54 ↗ get to

55:57 ↗ yeah we could think about some language

55:58 ↗ I think we also want to keep within the

56:01 ↗ bounds of the comp plan that is trying

56:03 ↗ to set these big goals and not identify

56:06 ↗ the specific strategies or actions but

56:08 ↗ we can point to where those will be

56:11 ↗ addressed help us

56:16 ↗ Achi any other questions about these

56:23 ↗ policies okay continue

56:27 ↗ on so for the next section is natural

56:29 ↗ system Water Resources um we overall are

56:33 ↗ are mostly not proposing to make any

56:36 ↗ changes to the goal and and at least the

56:39 ↗ last two policies with D4 and D5

56:42 ↗ policies we're actually proposing to

56:45 ↗ consolidate these into one primarily

56:47 ↗ because it it seemed repetitive uh in

56:49 ↗ order to keep uh uh D5 when they were

56:53 ↗ actually very similar it was very easy

56:55 ↗ to to just consolidate the two and

56:57 ↗ rather than have them two separate are

57:00 ↗ there any questions about these proposed

57:04 ↗ changes and I'll just know for folks

57:07 ↗ this is attachment a has the red line

57:09 ↗ version um of what's on the slide are

57:12 ↗ very

57:13 ↗ simplified thank you Stacy I forgot to

57:15 ↗ mention

57:23 ↗ that

57:30 ↗ okay not seeing any questions we can we

57:32 ↗ can also go come back to this if you do

57:34 ↗ see something as we're going through the

57:40 ↗ policies so the next section streams

57:42 ↗ Whitland

57:43 ↗ Wildlife we're overall not proposing

57:46 ↗ very many changes it um the biggest I

57:50 ↗ would say items that kind of point out

57:53 ↗ for this page is that uh the Shoreland

57:55 ↗ master program the purchase perks side

57:57 ↗ or Creekside Parcels both of those

57:59 ↗ policies are under review the Shoreland

58:02 ↗ master program is actually called out by

58:04 ↗ House Bill 1181 as actually potentially

58:07 ↗ adopting as its own element in the

58:08 ↗ conference plan so we're hoping to get

58:10 ↗ more guidance from the state on what

58:12 ↗ that actually means because it is

58:14 ↗ codified and

58:15 ↗ is also recognized in our comprehensive

58:18 ↗ plan so we're not sure if that actually

58:20 ↗ fits that compliance for what Bill House

58:23 ↗ Bill 1181 is asking for and then for the

58:26 ↗ purchase Creek Side Parcels this is

58:28 ↗ actually very similar language that's in

58:29 ↗ the Parks element so we we're trying to

58:31 ↗ see if if it's necessary to have

58:34 ↗ duplicative uh policy in this

58:38 ↗ element steephen I I did have one it's

58:41 ↗ probably more of a comment on this

58:43 ↗ section um one thing that's nice about

58:46 ↗ the tree canopy and is that it's

58:49 ↗ probably easy to measure at scale but

58:52 ↗ one piece of feedback on this part is

58:55 ↗ like similarly I think we would want to

58:57 ↗ maximize the number of wetlands that are

58:59 ↗ retained or like stream Corridor or

59:02 ↗ streams and and Wildlife corridors I

59:05 ↗ just wonder if there's any way that we

59:08 ↗ can measure that and and kind of report

59:11 ↗ on that at a higher level there may not

59:13 ↗ that that might be impossible um but I

59:16 ↗ think what's nice about some of these is

59:18 ↗ that we have clear kind of goals and and

59:22 ↗ overarching goals it's a little bit

59:24 ↗ harder on this one to know how we

59:26 ↗ measure success against like are we

59:29 ↗ doing well or are we not doing well and

59:31 ↗ need to for correct on on something like

59:33 ↗ this really important

59:36 ↗ element and and Stacy and and I can talk

59:40 ↗ with our medal staff because I know they

59:42 ↗ have certain targets that they look at

59:44 ↗ uh for their work but it's not

59:46 ↗ necessarily identified in detail in the

59:48 ↗ comprehensive

59:50 ↗ plan can I see a

59:53 ↗ couple hi Stephen and this is Nancy

59:56 ↗ Davidson and I'm looking specifically at

59:58 ↗ the more detailed one um and I'm looking

1:00:02 ↗ at policy E4 where you're talking about

1:00:04 ↗ enhancing the repairing borders on

1:00:07 ↗ Wetlands but I also think we need to

1:00:09 ↗ talk about enhancing the Wetland buffers

1:00:12 ↗ not just the wetlands themselves so

1:00:14 ↗ we're missing all of that area that we

1:00:16 ↗ set aside to protect those wetlands in

1:00:20 ↗ um Title 18 some of which is large some

1:00:23 ↗ of which is small and I'm hoping that we

1:00:26 ↗ can do more that with this to make sure

1:00:28 ↗ that we're enhancing and protecting

1:00:31 ↗ those buffers along the

1:00:35 ↗ way would it help if we address the

1:00:38 ↗ buffers in the policy itself yes please

1:00:44 ↗ okay that's kind of what my quest was

1:00:48 ↗ yeah no that's that sounds great thank

1:00:51 ↗ you Stephen Don mcams I'm also looking

1:00:54 ↗ at the details um policy

1:00:58 ↗ A14 speaks specifically to park

1:01:00 ↗ development why wouldn't it be all

1:01:02 ↗ development it's for natural drain

1:01:05 ↗ drainage

1:01:06 ↗ practices why wouldn't it read

1:01:08 ↗ incorporate natural drainage practices

1:01:10 ↗ into development why is it specific to

1:01:14 ↗ Parks you know I can't speak to the

1:01:17 ↗ origins of this policy being it was kind

1:01:19 ↗ of a an older policy in the land in the

1:01:22 ↗ land or yeah in the land use prior to

1:01:25 ↗ the adoption of the IAP but it from what

1:01:27 ↗ I remember in terms of what it was

1:01:29 ↗ intended for was to kind of U complement

1:01:32 ↗ some of the policies that are in the

1:01:33 ↗ Parks element or the parks open space

1:01:35 ↗ element that looked at

1:01:38 ↗ um using Park development for new uh

1:01:43 ↗ drainage resources for for the

1:01:47 ↗ community but you're right in terms of

1:01:49 ↗ trying to incorporate in in all

1:01:52 ↗ development is probably more

1:01:55 ↗ uh suitable for at least this section

1:01:58 ↗ something to look at okay thank it's as

1:02:01 ↗ a

1:02:02 ↗ goal great

1:02:09 ↗ go I think that's all the questions for

1:02:13 ↗ you

1:02:14 ↗ okay all right well we we started to

1:02:17 ↗ jump into the next page are there any

1:02:18 ↗ questions on on these other

1:02:23 ↗ policies

1:02:25 ↗ okay I'll keep

1:02:27 ↗ going so for the next section is

1:02:29 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions this is a lot

1:02:31 ↗ of this is from the climate action plan

1:02:33 ↗ so we're proposing no changes to these

1:02:35 ↗ goals and

1:02:41 ↗ policies are there any questions on

1:02:46 ↗ this I

1:02:50 ↗ guess yes I might have a question um

1:02:56 ↗ how have we figured out how we're

1:02:58 ↗ measuring our greenhouse gases yet and

1:03:03 ↗ um do we know where we're at in

1:03:06 ↗ comparison to like

1:03:10 ↗ 2007 yeah so we're um we completed with

1:03:14 ↗ uh King County and a number of

1:03:16 ↗ surrounding regions the community

1:03:18 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions assessment this

1:03:20 ↗ last year and then David is in the

1:03:23 ↗ middle of our first Municipal operations

1:03:26 ↗ greenhouse gas

1:03:27 ↗ inventory um so we have the results from

1:03:30 ↗ the one that was done in partnership

1:03:32 ↗ with K County up on the dashboard and

1:03:35 ↗ that's something we'll also be digging

1:03:36 ↗ into deep next year when we do our bitp

1:03:38 ↗ Point 2024 check in on the IAP and the

1:03:43 ↗ the one that we're doing now is also

1:03:44 ↗ inclusive of community so it'll split

1:03:47 ↗ out between Municipal operations at

1:03:49 ↗ Community commissions yes for

1:03:52 ↗ 2022 very cool

1:03:57 ↗ I

1:03:58 ↗ guess my other question might be later

1:04:01 ↗ I'll wait was there anything around the

1:04:03 ↗ reporting that you want to make sure

1:04:05 ↗ it's captured

1:04:08 ↗ or I

1:04:10 ↗ think that in this long-term plan that

1:04:14 ↗ it well it's captured in the IAP so

1:04:18 ↗ maybe that's all that

1:04:22 ↗ matters we can and I there is a

1:04:24 ↗ reporting section we'll get to later so

1:04:27 ↗ if there's any gaps that we see there we

1:04:29 ↗ can think about it there' be something

1:04:31 ↗ appropriate specific to

1:04:34 ↗ IAP thank

1:04:37 ↗ you uh this is Nancy again Stephen and I

1:04:41 ↗ think this also goes to

1:04:43 ↗ Stacy um I am concerned that we're not

1:04:46 ↗ going to mute our goals by just doing

1:04:48 ↗ things with um leading by example and

1:04:52 ↗ Outreach we actually have to do do

1:04:54 ↗ action um at this point we're not

1:04:57 ↗ getting enough voluntary stuff I know

1:04:59 ↗ that you have actions Le by example by

1:05:02 ↗ implementing actions to reduce from

1:05:04 ↗ Municipal operations but we need to do

1:05:06 ↗ more to get the community behind this

1:05:08 ↗ because so I'm honestly feeling like we

1:05:11 ↗ need another policy Stephen and we need

1:05:14 ↗ to do something to get action from the

1:05:16 ↗ community itself and I don't have words

1:05:18 ↗ for it I'm going to ask the subject man

1:05:20 ↗ experts to do that but I think we need

1:05:23 ↗ to get more action in this from the

1:05:25 ↗ community as a whole and not just the

1:05:28 ↗ municipality these are goals these are

1:05:31 ↗ overarching goals and I think we should

1:05:33 ↗ have an overarching goal that says do

1:05:36 ↗ something about you know climate as a

1:05:40 ↗ community and not just by doing

1:05:42 ↗ Municipal

1:05:43 ↗ stuff so I'll let you guys brainstorm

1:05:47 ↗ that one but I would love to see another

1:05:49 ↗ action

1:05:50 ↗ oriented goal in here to try and get the

1:05:53 ↗ community to do

1:05:55 ↗ more yeah that's that's great feedback

1:05:58 ↗ that's part of the conversation we

1:05:59 ↗ wanted to have are where are the gaps

1:06:01 ↗ and then where do we want to take

1:06:03 ↗ leadership or Identify some new policies

1:06:05 ↗ and goals that would come here come in

1:06:08 ↗ into the comp year yeah just while we're

1:06:11 ↗ on that topic and this is part of the

1:06:13 ↗ reason I was asking the built

1:06:14 ↗ environment question earlier because I

1:06:16 ↗ do think a lot of what the actions that

1:06:20 ↗ that members of the community could take

1:06:22 ↗ or that we would want want them to take

1:06:24 ↗ have to do with homes and buildings so I

1:06:28 ↗ do hope we're not reviewing that part of

1:06:31 ↗ the comp plan but it should have

1:06:34 ↗ policies and I know there's things in

1:06:36 ↗ what's been proposed by Consultants

1:06:37 ↗ around some of our mitigation goals um

1:06:42 ↗ but yeah it might be worth Stacy if

1:06:44 ↗ we're able to get anything that's

1:06:46 ↗ related to this from the the land use on

1:06:50 ↗ the built environment how the city is

1:06:53 ↗ thinking about goals to encourage

1:06:56 ↗ homeowners business owners

1:06:59 ↗ Etc um to upgrade and retrofit their

1:07:03 ↗ their properties and and for new

1:07:06 ↗ construction as

1:07:10 ↗ well go ahead Ann and then prage we'll

1:07:12 ↗ we'll go Ann and then prage and now

1:07:14 ↗ looks like

1:07:15 ↗ Alex okay thanks guys um so and nuk

1:07:21 ↗ here um so the only from my perspective

1:07:24 ↗ the only way that we're going to meet

1:07:26 ↗ our goals is if our power company pet

1:07:29 ↗ San energy meets the goals that are

1:07:32 ↗ stated by the clean energy

1:07:33 ↗ transformation act and some other laws

1:07:38 ↗ so um are we continuing

1:07:41 ↗ to follow their progress and um pressure

1:07:47 ↗ them is that and I I did notice that

1:07:49 ↗ utilities I thought I noticed that

1:07:51 ↗ utilities was part of the house bill 81

1:07:54 ↗ but maybe I'm I'm wrong I wasn't sure if

1:07:56 ↗ that should be on here as well the

1:08:00 ↗ utilities because before we all

1:08:02 ↗ Electrify we need to get off of pole and

1:08:05 ↗ gas and is your

1:08:08 ↗ question wanting a status update or are

1:08:10 ↗ you wondering if there should be

1:08:12 ↗ something in this policy like policy

1:08:15 ↗ tracking yeah policy tracking um

1:08:19 ↗ our our util our electric company I

1:08:23 ↗ think we need to be track them because

1:08:25 ↗ if we're not we're not going to reach

1:08:26 ↗ our

1:08:27 ↗ goals yeah I can speak to that yeah

1:08:30 ↗ there is um within the IAP their

1:08:32 ↗ instuctions around that so yes we are

1:08:34 ↗ tracking we are working closely with

1:08:36 ↗ psse um we've been looking at our

1:08:40 ↗ neighboring cities and some proposed

1:08:42 ↗ goals and policies in their comp plans

1:08:44 ↗ that would speak to um grid resiliency

1:08:48 ↗ redundancy um deemphasizing natural gas

1:08:52 ↗ so I think it's that's an area that the

1:08:55 ↗ board is interested in seeing some

1:08:57 ↗ policies and goals that we'll talk about

1:08:59 ↗ um as we get into the resilience

1:09:01 ↗ component we can bring back some

1:09:04 ↗ examples for you all to look at sorry

1:09:07 ↗ for getting to detail no this is this is

1:09:09 ↗ exactly the conversation to

1:09:12 ↗ have go ahead

1:09:17 ↗ crage um hi so I just have one question

1:09:22 ↗ and one comment so I'll start with the

1:09:23 ↗ comment which is in regards to what

1:09:26 ↗ Nancy and Jamie mentioned you know about

1:09:29 ↗ involving the community so that you can

1:09:32 ↗ actually meet the goals uh so one of the

1:09:35 ↗ ways and some bigger companies have have

1:09:38 ↗ seen been doing this is one of the ways

1:09:40 ↗ you can do it or one of the options

1:09:42 ↗ would be for City to enforce their goals

1:09:47 ↗ or you know basically pass it on to

1:09:49 ↗ their contractors vendors anybody they

1:09:52 ↗ use any de developers in the city small

1:09:55 ↗ businesses try to provide them some

1:09:58 ↗ incentives as well as recognitions for

1:10:00 ↗ reaching these goals but you know try to

1:10:03 ↗ uh pass on your goals to the vendors or

1:10:06 ↗ everybody who is involved or working

1:10:08 ↗ with the city that is one suggestion I

1:10:10 ↗ have um and the question I have and this

1:10:12 ↗ may be going to Stacy than Steven is how

1:10:16 ↗ do you actually calculate you know the

1:10:18 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions because is it

1:10:20 ↗ certain calculating spreadsheets or

1:10:23 ↗ modul you use because I have used a

1:10:25 ↗ couple of them and based on actually how

1:10:29 ↗ they are used or what you use sometimes

1:10:31 ↗ you know the numbers can be deceptive

1:10:33 ↗ like sometimes it can be more of an art

1:10:36 ↗ and science than actual engineering even

1:10:38 ↗ though you're using a hardcore

1:10:40 ↗ calculation spreadsheet so I was just

1:10:42 ↗ curious how is that

1:10:45 ↗ calculated great I might defer to David

1:10:48 ↗ because he's been in the weeds in this

1:10:50 ↗ and looking more at the spreadsheet is

1:10:52 ↗ that something can talk to a little bit

1:10:54 ↗ about the um spreadsheets and

1:10:57 ↗ calculations that we're using for

1:11:01 ↗ the yeah so can you repeat the question

1:11:04 ↗ on the spreadsheets in particular I got

1:11:07 ↗ that first question right so David I was

1:11:10 ↗ just curious you know how are you

1:11:12 ↗ calculating the greenhouse gas emissions

1:11:15 ↗ current emissions or you know how you

1:11:18 ↗ what they were few years back versus

1:11:20 ↗ what they are right now are you using a

1:11:23 ↗ spreadsheet or a model or combination of

1:11:26 ↗ stuff for that great thanks can I ask

1:11:29 ↗ you a question would this be something

1:11:31 ↗ that we'd want to dive into more detail

1:11:32 ↗ on on a future meeting so we can get the

1:11:35 ↗ spreadsheets in front of us and have

1:11:37 ↗ David sure I I think that would be a

1:11:39 ↗ great idea

1:11:41 ↗ Don great yeah and we are planning to

1:11:43 ↗ bring the uh greenhouse gas emissions

1:11:46 ↗ inventory to the board but we could do

1:11:48 ↗ kind of a preview maybe earlier on to

1:11:51 ↗ get folks oriented to the uh tools and

1:11:54 ↗ and materials that we're using before we

1:11:56 ↗ bring the

1:11:57 ↗ results yeah it's a great question I

1:12:00 ↗ would also note on that the first part

1:12:01 ↗ of the question on thinking about kind

1:12:03 ↗ of contracts and who's working with the

1:12:05 ↗ city um I think that goes towards um the

1:12:10 ↗ sustainable purchasing policy that is

1:12:12 ↗ being worked on in the city um there

1:12:14 ↗ could be an opportunity to add a policy

1:12:17 ↗ around that into the comprehensive plan

1:12:20 ↗ um as well though so um thank you for

1:12:22 ↗ that yeah

1:12:25 ↗ thank you I do think just to to make

1:12:28 ↗ sure that um and Stacy and Stephen

1:12:32 ↗ please make sure that I'm on the right

1:12:34 ↗ track I think our goal today is we

1:12:36 ↗ obviously have the IAP we have a lot of

1:12:38 ↗ plans that go into a lot of detail on

1:12:41 ↗ how we're going to get to these goals

1:12:43 ↗ right now what I believe we're trying to

1:12:45 ↗ do is make sure that we focus in on what

1:12:46 ↗ are the big priorities and overall

1:12:49 ↗ policies that we think need to be called

1:12:51 ↗ out at at the highest level that would

1:12:53 ↗ then and trickle down into all of the

1:12:55 ↗ other actions and strategies that that

1:12:58 ↗ we're making so is that accurate for

1:13:02 ↗ like what the goal for today is yes I

1:13:05 ↗ would say that's that's accurate and you

1:13:07 ↗ know because we're creating a new

1:13:09 ↗ element that's really the only reason

1:13:11 ↗ we're actually bringing a lot of this to

1:13:12 ↗ your attention is a lot of this was only

1:13:14 ↗ just discussed just a few years ago and

1:13:17 ↗ we really haven't had a ton of time for

1:13:19 ↗ implementation but we just want to

1:13:21 ↗ because we are going through this

1:13:24 ↗ periodic update we want to ask the

1:13:25 ↗ question is there anything that we need

1:13:27 ↗ to change with these existing policies

1:13:29 ↗ or

1:13:31 ↗ goals right so I think just keep that in

1:13:33 ↗ mind as we're thinking about feedback

1:13:35 ↗ and obviously that doesn't mean we can't

1:13:36 ↗ have other feedback but I do think the

1:13:38 ↗ key Focus for us today is not to get

1:13:41 ↗ into all the detail of every policy or

1:13:44 ↗ every strategy that might go against uh

1:13:46 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions it's it's

1:13:48 ↗ trying to highlight those really high

1:13:50 ↗ potential policy level decisions and

1:13:53 ↗ goal level um decisions that that we

1:13:56 ↗ should have or not decisions but like

1:13:58 ↗ call outs that we should have in the

1:14:00 ↗ comp plan right um Alex please go

1:14:04 ↗ ahead yeah I'll just be really quick um

1:14:07 ↗ I just wanted to voice my agreement with

1:14:09 ↗ what folks have just said a lot about

1:14:11 ↗ just feeling like it'd be great to be

1:14:14 ↗ able to see some of these how these

1:14:16 ↗ other policies are getting incorporated

1:14:17 ↗ into other sections of the comprehensive

1:14:20 ↗ plan as far as with the built

1:14:21 ↗ environment and a storm water management

1:14:23 ↗ and all these things that are going to

1:14:25 ↗ impact the goals um that we have set so

1:14:28 ↗ I don't know I know the other boards are

1:14:30 ↗ reviewing those so I don't know if

1:14:31 ↗ there's an opportunity for those to come

1:14:33 ↗ at a later time in front of the

1:14:34 ↗ environmental board just to check that

1:14:37 ↗ that we see that everything is kind of

1:14:38 ↗ lining up with the IAP and um with those

1:14:41 ↗ other

1:14:45 ↗ opportunities yes I can I can uh

1:14:47 ↗ coordinate with Stacy about bringing

1:14:50 ↗ other topics back as it fits in your

1:14:53 ↗ calend whether it's anational update via

1:14:55 ↗ email or if we come back and actually

1:14:56 ↗ have a discussion on it in one of your

1:15:00 ↗ meetings Stacy I think you're already

1:15:02 ↗ going to do this but I think using like

1:15:06 ↗ you said Redmond as an example that

1:15:08 ↗ looking at other cities to see like and

1:15:10 ↗ and particularly the ones that maybe are

1:15:11 ↗ a bit further along in Seattle some of

1:15:13 ↗ the ones that have made progress or

1:15:16 ↗ maybe they haven't but like what have

1:15:18 ↗ been the

1:15:19 ↗ really impactful policies or areas that

1:15:22 ↗ with in the city that they've been able

1:15:24 ↗ to

1:15:24 ↗ decarbonize i' be curious what those

1:15:27 ↗ what what they already have listed as

1:15:30 ↗ the part of their comp plans so that

1:15:32 ↗ just might be something I know you're

1:15:33 ↗ already planning on doing that but I

1:15:35 ↗ think there' be a ton basically just

1:15:37 ↗ saying I think there' be a ton of value

1:15:38 ↗ in that would love to see what the

1:15:40 ↗ result of of your investigation on that

1:15:46 ↗ is okay are there any other comments or

1:15:49 ↗ questions on the

1:15:52 ↗ slide I keep

1:15:55 ↗ going so the next set of greenhouse gas

1:15:57 ↗ emissions um are primarily focused on

1:16:00 ↗ waste again this is coming from the

1:16:03 ↗ climate action plan so we're not

1:16:04 ↗ proposing any changes at this

1:16:08 ↗ time go ahead

1:16:10 ↗ Nancy hi Stephen it's Nancy and if I

1:16:13 ↗ look at these things they're really

1:16:14 ↗ focused on Autos which are automobiles

1:16:17 ↗ not on not there're not there yet sorry

1:16:22 ↗ yes read your head okay

1:16:28 ↗ sorry but thank you I like I like your

1:16:30 ↗ proactive

1:16:34 ↗ approach so if there's no no comments on

1:16:37 ↗ this slide I can move to the transation

1:16:39 ↗ the one comment I'm going to make on

1:16:41 ↗ this one is that we originally intended

1:16:43 ↗ actually to move this goal and policies

1:16:46 ↗ actually to the transation element in

1:16:47 ↗ the comprehensive plan but House Bill

1:16:49 ↗ 1181 actually calls for keeping this

1:16:52 ↗ language in this new environment uh uh

1:16:56 ↗ specific element so right now at this

1:16:58 ↗ time we're proposing no changes and to

1:17:00 ↗ keep it in the Environ element but we're

1:17:02 ↗ hoping to get more guidance in the state

1:17:03 ↗ on what this is but and again these are

1:17:05 ↗ a lot of policies that are um from the

1:17:09 ↗ uh climate action plan

1:17:13 ↗ discussions and then Nancy we can go to

1:17:15 ↗ your your comment now sorry I read ahead

1:17:18 ↗ Stephen so I guess um you know I know

1:17:21 ↗ the city's been proactively working with

1:17:23 ↗ life Waste Management to get U more

1:17:25 ↗ green a couple of green trucks into the

1:17:28 ↗ community but I think we need to have

1:17:30 ↗ policies that are focused on more than

1:17:32 ↗ automobiles but also looking at um in

1:17:35 ↗ transportation you know the buses the

1:17:37 ↗ green buses green school buses GRE you

1:17:41 ↗ know trying to Mo work with others that

1:17:44 ↗ is not just focused on automobiles but

1:17:46 ↗ also heavy

1:17:48 ↗ equipment um you know delivery

1:17:51 ↗ trucks Amazon

1:17:53 ↗ post office you know all of these places

1:17:56 ↗ are opportunities for us to do something

1:17:58 ↗ in a transportation to help reduce

1:18:00 ↗ things and so I think we need to put

1:18:02 ↗ some kind of Transportation element in

1:18:04 ↗ it to work with others to try and go

1:18:07 ↗ that

1:18:10 ↗ direction I think that's

1:18:13 ↗ a yes and that feeds into what I was

1:18:15 ↗ going to talk about as well so I would

1:18:19 ↗ like us to and I know we discussed this

1:18:22 ↗ last time

1:18:23 ↗ but I think it should be in the

1:18:24 ↗ transportation part um telecommuting we

1:18:28 ↗ need I think we need to be promoting

1:18:30 ↗ telecommuting um

1:18:34 ↗ let um people know that we want it but

1:18:37 ↗ also businesses work with the businesses

1:18:39 ↗ to let them know hey we've got these

1:18:41 ↗ goals and for order in order for us to

1:18:43 ↗ reach our goals um and for the larger

1:18:47 ↗ businesses for us to help them Reach

1:18:50 ↗ their climate goals let's work together

1:18:51 ↗ on you know know not forcing people back

1:18:55 ↗ to the office you know if they want to

1:18:56 ↗ go back to the office that's one thing

1:18:58 ↗ but

1:19:00 ↗ um just reducing the more telecommunity

1:19:04 ↗ we can do the better um a lot of

1:19:08 ↗ businesses have started just having

1:19:10 ↗ people come back you know maybe they go

1:19:12 ↗ in like one day a week and U meet in

1:19:15 ↗ person one day a week more getting rid

1:19:18 ↗ of the offices so then we get rid of the

1:19:21 ↗ buildings and

1:19:23 ↗ um there's a lot saved if we can just do

1:19:26 ↗ more telecommunity and just meet face to

1:19:28 ↗ face every once in a

1:19:31 ↗ while okay yeah and we saw as you

1:19:35 ↗ pointed out we saw that really works um

1:19:38 ↗ during the pandemic we saw that it it

1:19:40 ↗ really helped us reach our

1:19:44 ↗ goals yeah so and our goals in the house

1:19:48 ↗ bill 18

1:19:51 ↗ 1181

1:19:53 ↗ I think we missed the 2021 which is um

1:19:56 ↗ to reduce per capita vehicle miles

1:19:59 ↗ travel by 18% by 2035 we're supposed to

1:20:02 ↗ be 30% and by 2050

1:20:05 ↗ 50% so I think maybe um we might even

1:20:09 ↗ have more aggressive ones in our climate

1:20:11 ↗ action plan

1:20:13 ↗ yeah yeah

1:20:16 ↗ so and my from my perspective the only

1:20:18 ↗ way we're going to get there is by

1:20:19 ↗ telecommunity and then of course there's

1:20:21 ↗ the transportation but I I mean the

1:20:23 ↗ masse Transit but for a lot of us to get

1:20:27 ↗ to the masse Transit we have to drive

1:20:29 ↗ quite a

1:20:33 ↗ ways like me because I live in

1:20:35 ↗ unincorporated King

1:20:37 ↗ County thank

1:20:40 ↗ you I think those are great comments and

1:20:43 ↗ when it comes to you know telecommuting

1:20:44 ↗ a lot of those policies are are kind of

1:20:47 ↗ captured in our transportation element

1:20:48 ↗ now they're not broad so actually I know

1:20:51 ↗ um our senior transation planner uh

1:20:54 ↗ Thomas Fess is actually looking at

1:20:55 ↗ expanding some of those policies to kind

1:20:57 ↗ of get exactly at your point of we

1:20:59 ↗ really should be pushing a little bit

1:21:01 ↗ more because we we know it works um but

1:21:04 ↗ some of that is going to be either

1:21:05 ↗ incentive driven or it's going to be

1:21:07 ↗ Decisions by a lot of the Private

1:21:08 ↗ Industry to be able to really push that

1:21:11 ↗ uh for employees there's also the

1:21:13 ↗ balance with housing first jobs and

1:21:15 ↗ locations of all that to make a lot of

1:21:17 ↗ that possible in terms of um making

1:21:19 ↗ accessibility or making a telecommuting

1:21:21 ↗ work for people to too so there's kind

1:21:23 ↗ of that balce across all the elements

1:21:26 ↗ for a lot of those policies but thank

1:21:28 ↗ you for the comment any other comments

1:21:31 ↗ on on the transportation

1:21:33 ↗ El think about that is if we do reach

1:21:36 ↗ out to the

1:21:37 ↗ businesses

1:21:39 ↗ um some teams might not do as well they

1:21:43 ↗ might not be doing as well with uh

1:21:45 ↗ remote working and others are so letting

1:21:49 ↗ businesses know hey they they can start

1:21:52 ↗ the teams that doing well could start um

1:21:54 ↗ teaching the other teams how to do it

1:21:56 ↗ well just an

1:21:58 ↗ idea yeah I had a comment slash question

1:22:02 ↗ um the how this T couples in with the

1:22:06 ↗ compu commuter reduction act which all

1:22:10 ↗ employers over a certain level are

1:22:13 ↗ required to have a compter CP reduction

1:22:16 ↗ plan I think that's a state level thing

1:22:19 ↗ right and does the city of isqua at the

1:22:22 ↗ present time

1:22:23 ↗ have any isqua

1:22:26 ↗ specific thing about that or is it all

1:22:28 ↗ dependent upon the Statewide

1:22:32 ↗ plan just wondering whether that has any

1:22:36 ↗ uh bearing on this I mean could this

1:22:38 ↗ could the city as a practical matter put

1:22:41 ↗ their own flavor on that or would it be

1:22:44 ↗ a matter of lobbying at the state level

1:22:46 ↗ or King County level I don't know I'm

1:22:48 ↗ just I'm just wondering is there

1:22:50 ↗ anything in isqua specific about about

1:22:52 ↗ that right now I would say it's a little

1:22:55 ↗ bit of both so the state requires that

1:22:57 ↗ every jurisdiction reports out all their

1:22:59 ↗ beer employers that are 100 plus

1:23:02 ↗ employees um how they're complying with

1:23:04 ↗ a lot of that the CTI requirements the

1:23:07 ↗ commute trip reduction requirements and

1:23:10 ↗ um it's it's showing that they're

1:23:12 ↗ encouraging employees to use transit to

1:23:15 ↗ walk or bike or or take advantage of

1:23:17 ↗ ride share or trying to reduce a lot of

1:23:20 ↗ those trips in and um escl has a bit of

1:23:24 ↗ a uh I would say its own tailored

1:23:27 ↗ approach to it and how it's working with

1:23:28 ↗ the employers to achieve that and and

1:23:30 ↗ some of that it's kind of fluctuated

1:23:32 ↗ over the years in terms of the level of

1:23:33 ↗ effort we've been able to put into um

1:23:36 ↗ based on some of the funding from the

1:23:38 ↗ state and I know that funding is going

1:23:40 ↗ to be um changing so that may also be in

1:23:43 ↗ changing our approach in terms of being

1:23:45 ↗ able to provide more incentives for

1:23:47 ↗ employers to have employees use more of

1:23:50 ↗ those types of

1:23:51 ↗ options

1:23:53 ↗ thank you Stephen I have one last

1:23:55 ↗ comment this this does seem like another

1:23:57 ↗ section similar to the built environment

1:24:00 ↗ portion of land use that I don't know

1:24:03 ↗ the right way but there seems like

1:24:05 ↗ there's enough connection like that some

1:24:09 ↗ whether it's just Stacy or or some or

1:24:12 ↗ the board um it seems like there'd be

1:24:14 ↗ enough elements of the actual

1:24:15 ↗ Transportation El like portion that

1:24:18 ↗ would be relevant to IAP that um there's

1:24:23 ↗ some form of collaboration that we

1:24:25 ↗ should should have or visibility we

1:24:27 ↗ should have to to what's in that section

1:24:29 ↗ I know um I'm sure Stacy will be

1:24:32 ↗ involved but that might be just

1:24:34 ↗ something for you to to think about is

1:24:36 ↗ for the land use aspects and

1:24:38 ↗ transportation is there any any anything

1:24:41 ↗ that would come to this

1:24:43 ↗ board um or what's the right way to make

1:24:45 ↗ sure that we're capturing all of the

1:24:48 ↗ things that would go up into the

1:24:49 ↗ greenhouse gas emission targets and all

1:24:51 ↗ and in disperate

1:24:54 ↗ elements and I can work with Stacy on

1:24:56 ↗ how how best to capture that and bring

1:24:58 ↗ that back to the

1:25:00 ↗ board yeah I think we could probably

1:25:02 ↗ pull out those relevant climate and

1:25:03 ↗ sustainability goals and policies bring

1:25:06 ↗ that as a

1:25:08 ↗ package Alex go

1:25:10 ↗ ahead I just wanted to I mean even if we

1:25:12 ↗ could just see something similar to what

1:25:15 ↗ we're seeing in the detailed version of

1:25:16 ↗ this the crosswalk between the policies

1:25:18 ↗ and how they're getting incorporated

1:25:20 ↗ into the plan I think just being able to

1:25:22 ↗ see the document of it would be helpful

1:25:24 ↗ that we could provide written comment or

1:25:26 ↗ um glance over at a future

1:25:29 ↗ meeting I think the the really detailed

1:25:31 ↗ version of this the red line is is

1:25:33 ↗ really helpful to see how it's being

1:25:36 ↗ Incorporated yeah and and a lot of the

1:25:38 ↗ materials and and you know the

1:25:40 ↗ discussion tonight is really just kind

1:25:42 ↗ of that first step of getting to that

1:25:44 ↗ eventually we're going to keep evolving

1:25:46 ↗ what we're going to provide you and get

1:25:47 ↗ you more

1:25:51 ↗ specifics

1:25:53 ↗ any other questions on this I think

1:25:54 ↗ that's all of the questions okay thank

1:25:58 ↗ you the next section is resilience and

1:26:00 ↗ well-being and

1:26:03 ↗ um what you what you what you're

1:26:06 ↗ reviewing at least for this section is

1:26:07 ↗ in the existing element and coming from

1:26:09 ↗ the climate action plan but it's also

1:26:11 ↗ part of the discussion with Stacy that

1:26:13 ↗ you're going to have in a few minutes on

1:26:15 ↗ the vulnerability assessment and how

1:26:17 ↗ best to uh pursue different goals and

1:26:19 ↗ policies for this section so I'll I'll

1:26:22 ↗ kind of leave it at that and ask if

1:26:23 ↗ there's any

1:26:29 ↗ questions do you do you feel like this

1:26:31 ↗ section is more in draft form and like

1:26:33 ↗ is it yeah this is just four that are

1:26:36 ↗ being carried over from the existing

1:26:39 ↗ comp plan that came out of the IAP and

1:26:42 ↗ so what we want to talk with the board

1:26:45 ↗ tonight about is in June we brought you

1:26:49 ↗ a massive laundry list that Consultants

1:26:51 ↗ put together

1:26:52 ↗ we want to kind of start fresh and get

1:26:55 ↗ more guidance from the board on what are

1:26:57 ↗ we trying to achieve with the real

1:26:59 ↗ resiliency policies and goals here where

1:27:01 ↗ do we maybe want to be leaders and be

1:27:03 ↗ out little front ahead a little bit

1:27:05 ↗ ahead um so that David and I can then

1:27:08 ↗ bring back a revised package of um

1:27:11 ↗ proposed resiliency goals and policies

1:27:14 ↗ for your review

1:27:15 ↗ next so this is yeah just what's in

1:27:18 ↗ there already we expect to have another

1:27:21 ↗ set of of 20 maybe possibly um goals and

1:27:26 ↗ policies for your review next meeting so

1:27:28 ↗ and do you think it's best that we wait

1:27:30 ↗ see those that proposal and then respond

1:27:32 ↗ then or do you want comments now um I

1:27:37 ↗ think it's better uh yeah I think what

1:27:39 ↗ we want to hear from you tonight is I I

1:27:42 ↗ don't know if these

1:27:44 ↗ four will change or maybe we fine- tune

1:27:48 ↗ them a little bit based on the feedback

1:27:49 ↗ we get from the board tonight on what

1:27:51 ↗ they want to see

1:27:52 ↗ but really what we're looking for is

1:27:54 ↗ that input on what should this next set

1:27:56 ↗ of uh expanded

1:28:00 ↗ policies I think a lot of this sorry a

1:28:04 ↗ lot of this is a um there should be a

1:28:07 ↗ lot some more policy about education and

1:28:09 ↗ Outreach around this isqua is not going

1:28:12 ↗ to solve climate change on its own it's

1:28:14 ↗ just not happen they can make a small

1:28:16 ↗ teeny tiny dent in the world but

1:28:19 ↗ education Outreach goes a long ways

1:28:21 ↗ because it's

1:28:23 ↗ so I think you should have something in

1:28:32 ↗ spe Stephen do you want to go into the

1:28:35 ↗ discussion now about the new ones I know

1:28:37 ↗ there's a slide later promp in that

1:28:38 ↗ discussion or sure yeah if it if it

1:28:41 ↗ helps I I only have one other section

1:28:44 ↗ which is going to be the results and

1:28:45 ↗ accountabilities and I don't know if

1:28:47 ↗ Alex did we miss another hand

1:28:50 ↗ up Alex please go go ahead all right

1:28:54 ↗ this um I just had a question about the

1:28:55 ↗ emergency service was for 100%

1:28:58 ↗ population is I don't know how big of

1:29:00 ↗ like a difference there is on a data

1:29:02 ↗ basis between commuter is that just

1:29:04 ↗ residents of the population does that

1:29:06 ↗ include commuters and visitors that

1:29:08 ↗ would be in the city um I don't know

1:29:10 ↗ where the like is it beneficial to plan

1:29:13 ↗ for

1:29:14 ↗ 110% um to include services for those

1:29:18 ↗ that aren't considered residents just a

1:29:21 ↗ it's a great question that came directly

1:29:23 ↗ from the IAP that just said eer it said

1:29:25 ↗ Emergency Services could serve 100% of

1:29:27 ↗ the population but it didn't say if that

1:29:29 ↗ was um the permanent population or if

1:29:33 ↗ that includes those coming in and out so

1:29:36 ↗ yeah that's that's something we could

1:29:37 ↗ work on fine

1:29:39 ↗ tuning is that under normal conditions

1:29:42 ↗ or during an emergency

1:29:46 ↗ right yeah and that and this is one

1:29:48 ↗ thing we need to think about too if we

1:29:51 ↗ refine that in the comp plan we'll want

1:29:54 ↗ to make sure the IAP if we do any kind

1:29:56 ↗ of update next year it's going to need

1:29:58 ↗ to be consistent because this was pulled

1:30:00 ↗ directly from the IAP so there's going

1:30:02 ↗ to be some crosswalking if we make

1:30:09 ↗ adjustments go ahead I love the way

1:30:13 ↗ you're thinking

1:30:14 ↗ Alex but it also made me wonder if

1:30:17 ↗ people are coming here to work if maybe

1:30:19 ↗ some people that live here would be

1:30:21 ↗ someplace Els during an emergency so

1:30:24 ↗ would it balance out just a

1:30:28 ↗ thought does this a quad track um

1:30:31 ↗ resident population versus daytime

1:30:33 ↗ population yeah we have that actually

1:30:35 ↗ from the leaf for cities program they

1:30:37 ↗ calculated that out for us

1:30:41 ↗ awesome I don't know those num off on

1:30:50 ↗ sty interesting

1:30:52 ↗ lot of good things to think

1:30:55 ↗ about any other comments or questions on

1:30:57 ↗ this

1:30:59 ↗ section this one's coming back St we'll

1:31:01 ↗ come back here in a minute if this where

1:31:04 ↗ we want to spend our Okay and like I

1:31:07 ↗ said um I just have this one other

1:31:09 ↗ section before getting to the uh other

1:31:14 ↗ question discussion so this this last

1:31:16 ↗ last section is is something that we're

1:31:18 ↗ actually be incorporating into all the

1:31:20 ↗ elements during the periodic update so

1:31:23 ↗ that we can clearly recognize how

1:31:26 ↗ accountability and and monitoring for a

1:31:28 ↗ lot of the different topic areas in the

1:31:29 ↗ comper plan are being tracked and we're

1:31:32 ↗ also recognizing also the functional

1:31:34 ↗ plans and that what's what's being used

1:31:36 ↗ for implementation for each of the

1:31:38 ↗ different topic

1:31:39 ↗ areas um and so this that'll be this

1:31:42 ↗ section um specifically speaking to the

1:31:45 ↗ IAP and we're we'll be working with uh

1:31:48 ↗ Stacy and David to better refine um

1:31:51 ↗ whether metric need to be recognized

1:31:52 ↗ here or what other types of policies

1:31:54 ↗ need to be recognized for this

1:31:57 ↗ section yeah and here's where I believe

1:32:00 ↗ it was Pro brought up earlier Greenhouse

1:32:03 ↗ guest reporting we can think about if

1:32:05 ↗ there's any additional

1:32:09 ↗ language yeah this kind of gets back to

1:32:12 ↗ a comment I had earlier about some of

1:32:15 ↗ our areas being easy to measure progress

1:32:19 ↗ others being challenging and some of

1:32:20 ↗ those are challenging because they're

1:32:22 ↗ challenging to measure but that would

1:32:24 ↗ just be something that think to think

1:32:27 ↗ about in in a lot of these schools is

1:32:29 ↗ how can we make them as meaningful and

1:32:32 ↗ and easy to evaluate or at least

1:32:35 ↗ something that we could look to

1:32:38 ↗ evaluate

1:32:40 ↗ n and I think this needs to address more

1:32:43 ↗ than just the IAP I mean if you look at

1:32:45 ↗ it every project that comes in is going

1:32:48 ↗ to say its impacts to a welln or to its

1:32:50 ↗ buers

1:32:52 ↗ and so we can easily track how we're

1:32:54 ↗ doing there everyone will have the same

1:32:57 ↗ kind of thing with it because of what we

1:32:59 ↗ did with Title 18 with related to steep

1:33:01 ↗ slopes or um Wildlife corridors so my

1:33:06 ↗ request is from a policy perspective and

1:33:10 ↗ a goal perspective we should be tracking

1:33:13 ↗ how we're doing with our Wetland buffers

1:33:16 ↗ if a developer comes in is and is

1:33:19 ↗ improving a wetland or it's buffer

1:33:22 ↗ we should have some way of tracking that

1:33:24 ↗ along the way I mean that's a great goal

1:33:26 ↗ and I would like to see that as a goal

1:33:28 ↗ for us to try and get dive deeper and

1:33:31 ↗ being able to report to our residents

1:33:33 ↗ how we're doing on that on trees on

1:33:36 ↗ other things that we have Higher Goals

1:33:38 ↗ yeah I think this directly relates to I

1:33:41 ↗ think the mechanism that we've been

1:33:42 ↗ asking for is the natural environment

1:33:44 ↗ checklist that we've been asking to get

1:33:45 ↗ it towards that for the last couple

1:33:47 ↗ years I think Nancy just articulated how

1:33:51 ↗ that tool could be

1:33:53 ↗ used impacts all these things in a way

1:33:55 ↗ that would help us evaluate whether

1:33:57 ↗ we're succeeding or not on on a lot of

1:34:00 ↗ these goals

1:34:03 ↗ so did you understand that Stephen

1:34:05 ↗ you're looking a little puzzled by no no

1:34:08 ↗ I'm I'm I'm taking it all in I'm I'm

1:34:10 ↗ gonna connect with Stacy and David and

1:34:12 ↗ then we'll we'll talk with our inand

1:34:13 ↗ staff of how best to do that of if

1:34:15 ↗ there's other uh City documents that we

1:34:18 ↗ need to recognize in this section that

1:34:20 ↗ defines those targets

1:34:22 ↗ already um then it then we should just

1:34:25 ↗ want to recognize those but I think

1:34:27 ↗ that's actually a great point of it's

1:34:28 ↗ it's more than just the IAP it's it's

1:34:30 ↗ also a lot of the other documents that

1:34:32 ↗ are implementing or helping us meet

1:34:33 ↗ these targets identified in this entire

1:34:37 ↗ element yeah and I'm just say we can

1:34:39 ↗ probably maybe calling it out General

1:34:42 ↗ with the idea of the natural environment

1:34:44 ↗ checklist um that may change its name

1:34:46 ↗ may change so we just want to be careful

1:34:48 ↗ about how specific in detail but yeah

1:34:50 ↗ I'd like that idea

1:34:55 ↗ okay if there's nothing else I can go

1:34:58 ↗ to the second question are there any new

1:35:02 ↗ goals or policies to consider for the

1:35:05 ↗ environmental I think we've kind of

1:35:06 ↗ talked about that as we've gone through

1:35:08 ↗ each of the different goal areas and and

1:35:10 ↗ policies but is there anything in

1:35:12 ↗ addition that you you would like to

1:35:20 ↗ discuss

1:35:23 ↗ one and I I don't know where we're at on

1:35:26 ↗ the the uh we talked a little bit about

1:35:29 ↗ the kind of a

1:35:31 ↗ carbon what's it called no not the

1:35:34 ↗ carbon footprint but our

1:35:38 ↗ like um not the catalog it's a similar

1:35:42 ↗ word anyways like basically measurement

1:35:44 ↗ of where all like where city of Isa is

1:35:47 ↗ on like where where missions are within

1:35:50 ↗ the city inventory the inventory that is

1:35:53 ↗ the word I was looking for um because

1:35:55 ↗ one of the things

1:35:56 ↗ that I think would be really helpful and

1:35:59 ↗ I don't think it's the right

1:36:01 ↗ conversation for us to have here but

1:36:03 ↗ would be really interesting to to know

1:36:05 ↗ is within that inventory where do we see

1:36:09 ↗ the really big big place like where can

1:36:12 ↗ we make a lot of movement where is the

1:36:13 ↗ areas that we think are The Highest

1:36:15 ↗ Potential because we haven't really had

1:36:17 ↗ like it's hard to have that conversation

1:36:19 ↗ without knowing the numbers of like this

1:36:20 ↗ is built environment this is

1:36:23 ↗ transportation this is so some of that

1:36:25 ↗ it might be helpful in a separate

1:36:26 ↗ conversation for us to talk like look at

1:36:28 ↗ the inventory talk through where we

1:36:31 ↗ actually think there's a lot of movement

1:36:32 ↗ that could be made um because that

1:36:35 ↗ ultimately it's a numbers game on on

1:36:38 ↗ greenhous gas

1:36:39 ↗ so it's not an answer but something that

1:36:42 ↗ could be helpful to help us evaluate if

1:36:45 ↗ there's any other goals that we should

1:36:46 ↗ be thinking about if there's a big

1:36:47 ↗ bucket of emissions that we're not

1:36:49 ↗ evaluating with the

1:36:51 ↗ are kind of addressing with the with

1:36:53 ↗ this SC Plan update then that might

1:36:55 ↗ indicate that we're uh we should be

1:36:58 ↗ thinking about that area well I think

1:37:00 ↗ that's a great filter we can apply when

1:37:02 ↗ we bring back the next set and maybe

1:37:04 ↗ that becomes a new mitigation goal our

1:37:07 ↗ policy but David I can definitely look

1:37:09 ↗ at that what's missing from here where

1:37:11 ↗ are those biggest impacts from our

1:37:15 ↗ inventory

1:37:19 ↗ policy and

1:37:22 ↗ I

1:37:23 ↗ guess I'm not seeing a category for

1:37:26 ↗ buildings

1:37:29 ↗ here everything for doing it yeah for a

1:37:34 ↗ lot of uh the goals and policies related

1:37:36 ↗ to buildings or the urban urban

1:37:38 ↗ environment are going to be captured in

1:37:40 ↗ the land use element and so we'll we

1:37:42 ↗ once we have discussions with the

1:37:43 ↗ planning policy Commission on that

1:37:45 ↗ element we'll be bringing a lot of that

1:37:47 ↗ uh to you to take a look

1:37:49 ↗ at so would land use cover

1:37:54 ↗ um the carbon footprint of a building

1:37:57 ↗ you know the

1:37:59 ↗ whole yeah okay Co

1:38:04 ↗ yes use I have one okay so this might be

1:38:08 ↗ in results and accountability but what

1:38:10 ↗ I'm what I see is missing is some of the

1:38:13 ↗ opportunities to advocate for some of

1:38:15 ↗ these things and here's my example to

1:38:17 ↗ you and I don't know how to write this

1:38:19 ↗ but Stephen could do we somehow try to

1:38:22 ↗ push to get the electric mail truck D

1:38:25 ↗ trucks into the city of

1:38:27 ↗ iso just we have to Advocate to try and

1:38:31 ↗ get that to happen because we know the

1:38:32 ↗ postal service is doing that couldn't we

1:38:35 ↗ try and be the leader and get them to

1:38:37 ↗ bring them here

1:38:39 ↗ first um Amazon is doing the same thing

1:38:42 ↗ can we try and push them to Advocate to

1:38:44 ↗ bring them here so I don't think we have

1:38:46 ↗ the leverage but we have to be thinking

1:38:49 ↗ about the opportunities and advocating

1:38:51 ↗ and partnering with these guys to say

1:38:54 ↗ Hey try us here first we and here's why

1:38:57 ↗ and that's that's my proposal I don't

1:38:59 ↗ know what to write there Stephen but I

1:39:01 ↗ think we need to provide that

1:39:04 ↗ opportunity for people that are trying

1:39:06 ↗ to do the right thing to have them do

1:39:08 ↗ the right thing in isqua before they go

1:39:10 ↗ somewhere else yeah

1:39:13 ↗ yeah and there's a lot of real estate

1:39:15 ↗ for solar on top of for example the post

1:39:18 ↗ office right and a lot of other

1:39:21 ↗ buildings as well so when they have

1:39:22 ↗ their Fleet their electric Fleet they

1:39:24 ↗ also have um solar

1:39:27 ↗ panels to to replenish

1:39:41 ↗ them okay any

1:39:47 ↗ other this isn't the the only only time

1:39:51 ↗ you all get

1:39:52 ↗ it well maybe moving in Just Around

1:39:55 ↗ specific to the resilience policies to

1:39:58 ↗ um provide some more direction for us on

1:40:01 ↗ what to bring next meeting I think

1:40:03 ↗ that's what we we're looking we brought

1:40:05 ↗ you a very long list of goals and

1:40:07 ↗ policies we're looking to bring um

1:40:09 ↗ something a little bit more streamlined

1:40:12 ↗ and so just looking for what you all

1:40:15 ↗ want to achieve with those climate

1:40:17 ↗ resiliency goals and policies are there

1:40:20 ↗ areas that we want to be uh maybe a step

1:40:23 ↗ ahead or or demonstrating leadership um

1:40:26 ↗ in our community with what we're stating

1:40:29 ↗ in the comp plan um there may be some

1:40:33 ↗ areas where we need to wait for State

1:40:34 ↗ guidance and it might be appropriate to

1:40:36 ↗ do so but just looking for a little bit

1:40:38 ↗ more feedback from the board so we can

1:40:41 ↗ bring um a stronger uh list to you all

1:40:45 ↗ at the next

1:40:46 ↗ meeting to ny's comment this might be a

1:40:49 ↗ good section to inpud a policy here

1:40:51 ↗ about you know promoting local

1:40:53 ↗ businesses to start using electric

1:40:58 ↗ vehicles and I think Hy this is drawing

1:41:01 ↗ from the list I think it's June 14 I'm

1:41:04 ↗ looking at the packet from June 14th

1:41:07 ↗ which has the report out from the

1:41:08 ↗ Consultants that also has some

1:41:11 ↗ mitigation policies yeah and I think but

1:41:15 ↗ you're looking specifically for like the

1:41:16 ↗ resilience part

1:41:17 ↗ of yeah and I think we also just looking

1:41:21 ↗ at that um question before and where

1:41:24 ↗ there might be some gaps we can uh use

1:41:27 ↗ that as a filter and go back through

1:41:28 ↗ that list from the consultants and see

1:41:30 ↗ if there are any additional goals or

1:41:32 ↗ policies that we want to build in that

1:41:36 ↗ wer one topic area that comes to mind um

1:41:39 ↗ that I think you'll probably bringing

1:41:41 ↗ back anyways but is given all our goals

1:41:44 ↗ around tree canopy and wanting to have

1:41:48 ↗ healthy Forest it seems like there's a

1:41:49 ↗ natural tie in between that and while

1:41:51 ↗ fire risk that more the city can do to

1:41:55 ↗ be a leader on ensuring that not only do

1:41:58 ↗ we have Force but it's healthy and fire

1:42:00 ↗ resistant and residents are informed on

1:42:03 ↗ how that can be supported and how they

1:42:05 ↗ can be a part of that

1:42:07 ↗ solution seems like a an area within

1:42:11 ↗ resilience that it would make sense for

1:42:13 ↗ us to be in a leading position

1:42:19 ↗ absolutely and I was reading in the

1:42:22 ↗ house bill 1181 about fire wise and uh

1:42:26 ↗ their wording was um separate human

1:42:29 ↗ development from fire prone areas reduce

1:42:33 ↗ residential development pressure in Wild

1:42:36 ↗ Wildland Urban interface

1:42:39 ↗ areas

1:42:43 ↗ so I don't know what our codes are in um

1:42:46 ↗ our areas that are more forested and we

1:42:50 ↗ have got we've got so many forested

1:42:54 ↗ areas

1:42:56 ↗ um just something to think

1:42:59 ↗ about

1:43:03 ↗ yeah and then I know that that the city

1:43:06 ↗ will want to start you know acquiring a

1:43:08 ↗ lot of those that are closer to the

1:43:12 ↗ um that have Trail connectivity but are

1:43:14 ↗ also closer maybe people have large

1:43:17 ↗ pieces of land and um I know get

1:43:21 ↗ expensive but maybe the city could start

1:43:23 ↗ thinking about purchasing those pieces

1:43:25 ↗ of land so they don't get developed and

1:43:27 ↗ we don't get

1:43:28 ↗ closer to the

1:43:33 ↗ forests if you do want to address

1:43:35 ↗ Wildfire resilience in here you might

1:43:37 ↗ want to look at Force practices and and

1:43:40 ↗ promote and educate on good Force

1:43:42 ↗ practices in your yard you don't want to

1:43:44 ↗ leave a lot of

1:43:45 ↗ debris or fuel underneath your tree

1:43:49 ↗ canopy you want to clean it up you want

1:43:50 ↗ to have health healthy plant under

1:43:52 ↗ there down on the

1:43:56 ↗ wrist could be something there I'm not

1:44:01 ↗ sure yeah so is it the fire wise is

1:44:04 ↗ probably already on the website

1:44:07 ↗ yeah on our website I'm not sure um if

1:44:11 ↗ it is but it may be through um you said

1:44:14 ↗ fire and rescue but I can talk about

1:44:15 ↗ emergency manager yeah I'm definitely

1:44:17 ↗ hearing show some leadership around

1:44:19 ↗ wildfires so we can uh in some of these

1:44:22 ↗ uh more specific actions so we can look

1:44:25 ↗ at developing schols and policies yeah

1:44:28 ↗ even more education at Trail heads and

1:44:30 ↗ things like that

1:44:36 ↗ yeah other filters or areas that we

1:44:39 ↗ should emphasize as we to bring you back

1:44:42 ↗ the next set of

1:44:49 ↗ resilience I mean I think everything

1:44:51 ↗ else seems like areas that you're going

1:44:53 ↗ to come back with anyways around like

1:44:55 ↗ flood management like I don't know if

1:44:57 ↗ there's anything well Al Alex why don't

1:44:59 ↗ you go ahead do you have

1:45:00 ↗ something feel like this could be a spot

1:45:03 ↗ and I don't know if it's being

1:45:04 ↗ Incorporated in other aspects of the

1:45:06 ↗ comprehensive action plan or the

1:45:08 ↗ comprehensive plan but to incorporate

1:45:09 ↗ equity and Justice and

1:45:11 ↗ accessibility um to Natural areas for

1:45:15 ↗ well-being and things like that I feel

1:45:17 ↗ like there's maybe another section

1:45:19 ↗ element in the plan that talks maybe

1:45:21 ↗ more about that um but this could be

1:45:26 ↗ kind of addressing some of that and I

1:45:27 ↗ don't I don't see Equity addressed

1:45:31 ↗ in in these areas I know in the

1:45:33 ↗ decarbonization plan that's proposed for

1:45:35 ↗ this agenda too it talks a lot more

1:45:37 ↗ about that but um if there's

1:45:40 ↗ opportunities to include language that

1:45:43 ↗ kind of talks about that in any of these

1:45:46 ↗ policies um or if we can just learn

1:45:49 ↗ where it is being included in the plan

1:45:51 ↗ that would be

1:45:52 ↗ helpful great yeah I think to the

1:45:55 ↗ specific um example you gave we can look

1:45:57 ↗ at the parks I don't I don't know all

1:46:00 ↗ the the parks um goals and strategies

1:46:04 ↗ but look or goals and policies we can

1:46:06 ↗ look to see where it's included there

1:46:07 ↗ and play that for that team um but yes I

1:46:10 ↗ think um environmental justice uh access

1:46:14 ↗ those are things that we definitely want

1:46:15 ↗ to incorporate into the resiliency

1:46:17 ↗ component and and there are some

1:46:19 ↗ requirements that the 81 around that so

1:46:23 ↗ we will use that as a filter the

1:46:29 ↗ next and this is a half form thought and

1:46:31 ↗ I don't know how this

1:46:33 ↗ would but we talk a lot about like human

1:46:36 ↗ resilience to climate change we talk a

1:46:38 ↗ lot about our ecosystem and like trees

1:46:41 ↗ and wetlands as kind of inanimate

1:46:44 ↗ objects what we don't specifically call

1:46:47 ↗ out is the impact of like animals that

1:46:49 ↗ are in those ecosystem systems and

1:46:51 ↗ so in some way it would be nice to

1:46:54 ↗ address like I mean salmon and fish seem

1:46:57 ↗ like over really obvious one there's

1:46:59 ↗ plenty of others that will likely have

1:47:00 ↗ see impacts and so that just seems like

1:47:02 ↗ a lens I don't know what the policy is

1:47:05 ↗ but um and and it's sort of indirectly

1:47:08 ↗ or directly impacted by improving the

1:47:11 ↗ ecosystem but I just do wonder if

1:47:13 ↗ there's other things that we should be

1:47:15 ↗ thinking about

1:47:18 ↗ um with them as it a stakeholder or

1:47:21 ↗ someone in mind

1:47:24 ↗ uh

1:47:29 ↗ so go ahead I don't know who was first

1:47:33 ↗ so an and then Alex Alex go

1:47:37 ↗ ahead Alex you're up oh thank you um I

1:47:42 ↗ was wondering where water quality would

1:47:45 ↗ be addressed in either this section or

1:47:49 ↗ in another section

1:47:51 ↗ um of the comprehensive

1:47:56 ↗ plan there's a few policies in in this

1:48:00 ↗ new ele or in the new element but

1:48:02 ↗ there's uh more goals and policies

1:48:04 ↗ around water quality actually in the

1:48:06 ↗ land use element that we'll be bringing

1:48:08 ↗ back to you later all right thank

1:48:15 ↗ you so anduk here I know we have um

1:48:19 ↗ Heating and Co

1:48:22 ↗ centers um maybe just ways of letting

1:48:26 ↗ people like even homeless people know

1:48:28 ↗ did we talk about that already I think

1:48:30 ↗ we might have where the heating and

1:48:32 ↗ cooling centers are and when they're

1:48:49 ↗ available

1:48:51 ↗ yeah I think for um ahead of the next

1:48:54 ↗ meeting that's really great feedback

1:48:57 ↗ that we'll use to start bringing or to

1:49:00 ↗ start looking through the proposed

1:49:01 ↗ policies from the consultant um I think

1:49:03 ↗ I mentioned earlier Redmond's about a

1:49:06 ↗ month or two ahead of us and they just

1:49:07 ↗ released their draft um goals and

1:49:09 ↗ policies for this element so we're

1:49:12 ↗ looking to pull in those for consistency

1:49:15 ↗ and where it makes sense for our

1:49:17 ↗ community um so we'll bringing that

1:49:20 ↗ specifically the resilience policy at

1:49:21 ↗ the next next

1:49:24 ↗ meeting awesome and then Stephen I think

1:49:27 ↗ you have a a more General timeline

1:49:29 ↗ around the comp plan too I do so um

1:49:34 ↗ we're still kind of in the initial

1:49:35 ↗ stages of the comprehensive Plan update

1:49:38 ↗ we'll be starting some Council committee

1:49:40 ↗ review later this year and then working

1:49:42 ↗ towards docket and continued

1:49:45 ↗ conversations on a draft early next year

1:49:48 ↗ um the the ultimate

1:49:50 ↗ goal is to try to get adoption around Q3

1:49:59 ↗ 2024 and that concludes my presentation

1:50:02 ↗ any other questions or

1:50:06 ↗ comments do look like it thank you

1:50:08 ↗ Stephen great work okay thank you

1:50:11 ↗ everybody thank

1:50:14 ↗ you all right I think with that we are

1:50:18 ↗ on to facilities update mpal

1:50:20 ↗ decarbonization resolution we may want

1:50:22 ↗ to talk about what our goal for that is

1:50:24 ↗ tonight um and Stacy and D I don't know

1:50:27 ↗ if you want to take that on just like do

1:50:31 ↗ we actually want to just review it at a

1:50:33 ↗ high level do we actually want to take

1:50:34 ↗ action what's the level that you think

1:50:36 ↗ is we would like to get to tonight great

1:50:38 ↗ yeah so um purpose of this presentation

1:50:41 ↗ uh there's a lot happening with our

1:50:43 ↗ facilities in parallel yet coordinated

1:50:46 ↗ so David was going to give a brief um

1:50:49 ↗ overview of the different studies and

1:50:50 ↗ analyses that are underway as part of

1:50:53 ↗ that we are proposing a assessment that

1:50:58 ↗ the city would do on its own buildings

1:50:59 ↗ to look at um steps to decarbonize them

1:51:02 ↗ and we have a resolution that we are

1:51:05 ↗ looking for the environmental board to

1:51:06 ↗ take action on um so that we could then

1:51:08 ↗ send it on to council um uh to to go on

1:51:15 ↗ their agenda and sign off on it

1:51:17 ↗ essentially um so our if the

1:51:21 ↗ comprehensive plan discussion went long

1:51:23 ↗ um our thought was we could at least

1:51:25 ↗ provide the overview presentation and

1:51:27 ↗ introduce the resolution and then we

1:51:29 ↗ could hold um action until the next

1:51:33 ↗ meeting um we're still we have about

1:51:35 ↗ eight minutes left in the meeting I am

1:51:38 ↗ happy to go through it fairly fast and

1:51:41 ↗ perhaps if there's at the end we could

1:51:44 ↗ if there's anything that folks want more

1:51:46 ↗ detail on or want to come back to we can

1:51:49 ↗ do that

1:51:50 ↗ at the September meting yeah that works

1:51:57 ↗ okay don't you get

1:52:00 ↗ started

1:52:03 ↗ sure um

1:52:07 ↗ so we were going to ask for for action

1:52:10 ↗ on the uh decarbonization resolution and

1:52:13 ↗ I thought that um given all of the work

1:52:17 ↗ that's being done on our facilities uh

1:52:19 ↗ it would be a disservice to not kind of

1:52:21 ↗ talk about it broadly and put it into

1:52:23 ↗ context

1:52:26 ↗ um starting off why buildings uh this

1:52:29 ↗ goes to to your point earlier Jamie on

1:52:31 ↗ kind of uh we know that buildings in

1:52:35 ↗ King County represent around

1:52:37 ↗ 46% um on slide three um 46% of our

1:52:42 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions countywide

1:52:44 ↗ based on our 2019 Regional inventory uh

1:52:47 ↗ for isqua that looks like it's around

1:52:50 ↗ 52% and so kind of addressing greenhouse

1:52:53 ↗ gas emissions from our building sector

1:52:55 ↗ is very critical if we want to uh reach

1:52:58 ↗ our emission reduction goals um most of

1:53:03 ↗ uh the emissions associated with

1:53:04 ↗ buildings do come from operations

1:53:06 ↗ although there is uh definitely

1:53:08 ↗ emissions associated with embodied

1:53:10 ↗ carbon as well so the the building

1:53:12 ↗ materials um Etc themselves like one

1:53:16 ↗ just quick note as we think about

1:53:19 ↗ looking at this looking at the big

1:53:21 ↗ numbers on the left and how much of that

1:53:24 ↗ is in sections that are not in the envir

1:53:28 ↗ like how important those other sections

1:53:30 ↗ are are just highlighted by that slide

1:53:33 ↗ there yes absolutely oh right buildings

1:53:37 ↗ is the most important and then

1:53:38 ↗ transportation is the next so two

1:53:40 ↗ sections that aren't we aren't

1:53:42 ↗ discussing in detail focus

1:53:45 ↗ on we will pull out

1:53:48 ↗ those like it as a great Point yeah um

1:53:52 ↗ and from the the there these are not

1:53:55 ↗ great colors I'm realizing but anyways

1:53:57 ↗ the way in my mind that I'm kind of

1:53:58 ↗ splitting out some of our building work

1:54:00 ↗ is right there's buildings that we own

1:54:03 ↗ and operate as a city um and then

1:54:05 ↗ buildings out in the community and then

1:54:08 ↗ within both of those two buckets there's

1:54:11 ↗ existing buildings and new buildings um

1:54:14 ↗ next

1:54:15 ↗ slide mainly today I was going to be

1:54:18 ↗ talking about our effs related to

1:54:21 ↗ existing municipal buildings um but

1:54:23 ↗ that's not to note that we don't have

1:54:25 ↗ efforts and uh policies and programs um

1:54:29 ↗ related to the other kind of buckets of

1:54:32 ↗ buildings um but right now there's a lot

1:54:34 ↗ of work going on on Municipal facilities

1:54:37 ↗ next slide so this I was actually quite

1:54:40 ↗ proud of this graph because I'm again

1:54:43 ↗ not very good at these but um this is to

1:54:45 ↗ kind of show the different levels of

1:54:48 ↗ Assessments and work that we're doing um

1:54:51 ↗ and the idea is that each one of these

1:54:53 ↗ is uh a fairly uh separate assessment on

1:54:57 ↗ that on its own would be valuable to the

1:54:59 ↗ city but kind of uh layering them

1:55:02 ↗ together will get us to the point where

1:55:04 ↗ we as a city can know when and where to

1:55:06 ↗ make the right investments in our

1:55:10 ↗ facilities uh so starting out kind of on

1:55:12 ↗ that benchmarking level go to the next

1:55:15 ↗ slide actually going through this very

1:55:17 ↗ fast um this is currently ongoing but

1:55:20 ↗ the idea with this is to look at our

1:55:23 ↗ energy use at our buildings and compare

1:55:26 ↗ that energy use uh to uh State targets

1:55:31 ↗ around what buildings of that type

1:55:34 ↗ should operate at right so you know um

1:55:39 ↗ police stations that operate 247 have

1:55:42 ↗ higher kind of targets for energy use

1:55:45 ↗ than say a building that is just an

1:55:47 ↗ office building used during the day

1:55:50 ↗ so this energy benchmarking is really

1:55:53 ↗ kind of very high level looking at our

1:55:55 ↗ utility data what is the energy use of a

1:55:57 ↗ building what's the intensity of that

1:56:00 ↗ energy used and how does it compare to

1:56:02 ↗ comparable

1:56:03 ↗ buildings so this is currently ongoing

1:56:06 ↗ and we're planning on doing it to almost

1:56:08 ↗ all City buildings I do have all here

1:56:10 ↗ but I think there are a few buildings we

1:56:12 ↗ are not going to look at um simply

1:56:15 ↗ because uh they are rental properties

1:56:18 ↗ that we do not have control over some of

1:56:21 ↗ uh their utility use and things like

1:56:23 ↗ that but we are looking at almost all

1:56:25 ↗ buildings so if you're looking at

1:56:27 ↗ buildings are you looking at pump

1:56:28 ↗ stations and fire stations and those are

1:56:33 ↗ all buildings though by City yes fire

1:56:36 ↗ stations yes the energy benchmarking and

1:56:40 ↗ uh efforts I do not believe incorporates

1:56:43 ↗ pump stations themselves um but I can

1:56:46 ↗ look into that it should should

1:56:50 ↗ yeah well that might be small structures

1:56:52 ↗ that generate a lot of power and there's

1:56:54 ↗ a lot of them y I think they're

1:56:58 ↗ definitely included in the facilities

1:57:00 ↗ condition assessment so kind of what is

1:57:01 ↗ the condition of those facilities but I

1:57:04 ↗ think energy benchmarking for your pump

1:57:07 ↗ stations is really important because

1:57:08 ↗ some of them may not be operating very

1:57:10 ↗ efficiently okay so um you can be

1:57:13 ↗ generate using a lot of energy and not

1:57:15 ↗ realize it great I will look into that

1:57:18 ↗ how many does a Supply

1:57:21 ↗ have um it's in the range I should have

1:57:24 ↗ the number but it's in the range

1:57:27 ↗ of 25 30 um and probably half of those

1:57:34 ↗ are operated by the city a little over

1:57:37 ↗ half of them are operated by the city

1:57:38 ↗ and the rest are

1:57:40 ↗ rented yeah good so we make money

1:57:45 ↗ on renting someone or is that are we

1:57:49 ↗ renting oh sorry no we are the landlord

1:57:52 ↗ and so yes we make some money some of

1:57:55 ↗ that Gibson Hall I think we make a

1:57:57 ↗ dollar a year

1:57:59 ↗ from it's rent to there's a restaurant

1:58:02 ↗ actually occupied restaurant so it

1:58:04 ↗ really varies we have single family home

1:58:08 ↗ so

1:58:09 ↗ interesting portfolio I

1:58:14 ↗ see um other questions on the

1:58:18 ↗ benchmarking

1:58:20 ↗ uh so the next uh assessment level that

1:58:23 ↗ just got kicked off yesterday is our

1:58:24 ↗ facilities condition assessment and this

1:58:27 ↗ is uh G to happen for the rest of this

1:58:30 ↗ year and is really looking at just what

1:58:32 ↗ is our equipment um and the condition of

1:58:36 ↗ our facilities so not necessarily

1:58:38 ↗ looking at what we should do with our

1:58:41 ↗ facilities Beyond kind

1:58:44 ↗ of at what point do we need to replace

1:58:47 ↗ the facility or the the equipment how

1:58:49 ↗ old is the equipment how well is it

1:58:51 ↗ operating so really just the

1:58:54 ↗ Baseline what do we have and how is it

1:58:58 ↗ uh how is it performing right now um to

1:59:01 ↗ help us understand when should we be

1:59:04 ↗ replacing equipment what are the pieces

1:59:06 ↗ of equipment that really need to be

1:59:08 ↗ replaced right now versus equipment that

1:59:11 ↗ needs can wait for you know a few years

1:59:14 ↗ before being replaced Etc and again that

1:59:18 ↗ will include pump stations right I

1:59:20 ↗ believe so I can look back at the scope

1:59:21 ↗ of

1:59:25 ↗ work um next level is energy Audits and

1:59:28 ↗ we're doing this in kind of a phased uh

1:59:31 ↗ effort that's looking at our biggest

1:59:33 ↗ buildings

1:59:34 ↗ first um and the energy audits are they

1:59:38 ↗ it builds on the the

1:59:40 ↗ benchmarking and the idea is to look for

1:59:43 ↗ energy projects in our facilities that

1:59:47 ↗ will help us uh improve Energy

1:59:51 ↗ Efficiency the criteria we use to define

1:59:55 ↗ kind of what improving Energy Efficiency

1:59:57 ↗ means uh is a conversation at at the

2:00:00 ↗ city and in conversation with

2:00:02 ↗ contractors Etc and we can kind of help

2:00:05 ↗ Define that and include greenhouse gas

2:00:07 ↗ reductions Etc into that conversation

2:00:11 ↗ but these energy audits will help us

2:00:13 ↗ understand say for any given building

2:00:16 ↗ what are uh the different projects that

2:00:19 ↗ will have the biggest bang for our buck

2:00:22 ↗ essentially on improving what the Energy

2:00:24 ↗ Efficiency of that building is going to

2:00:27 ↗ be will they be looking for energy

2:00:30 ↗ leaks and where they might be able to

2:00:32 ↗ put more insulation in yes yep so this

2:00:35 ↗ is kind of looking at equipment right so

2:00:38 ↗ do we need to replace uh our HVAC system

2:00:41 ↗ as well as things like weatherization

2:00:44 ↗ and other things in that line so why are

2:00:48 ↗ we starting with the biggest buildings

2:00:50 ↗ first instead of the most energy

2:00:52 ↗ intensive use

2:00:54 ↗ buildings great question um so I think

2:00:59 ↗ the we're the biggest buildings are our

2:01:01 ↗ most energy intensive buildings um in

2:01:04 ↗ terms of like the pool the community

2:01:06 ↗ center and the um police station and

2:01:09 ↗ those are going to be some of the ones

2:01:10 ↗ that have the biggest uh projects that

2:01:13 ↗ we can pursue right

2:01:17 ↗ now did want to do time check I do know

2:01:20 ↗ some of us I think Tom and I both came

2:01:23 ↗ on bikes and it's starting to get dark

2:01:26 ↗ yes

2:01:28 ↗ um Tom I

2:01:30 ↗ think how is everyone feeling about

2:01:32 ↗ continuing or and how much longer do we

2:01:35 ↗ feel like we will need to kind of get to

2:01:38 ↗ a good stopping

2:01:39 ↗ point it' be okay with five or 10

2:01:42 ↗ minutes but I guess I don't want to go

2:01:43 ↗ beyond that you got about 15 minutes of

2:01:46 ↗ daylight like when we do five five

2:01:48 ↗ minutes yeah I can do even even shorter

2:01:50 ↗ than that so our the last kind of bucket

2:01:54 ↗ in this is the decarbonization

2:01:56 ↗ assessment and this kind of relates to

2:01:57 ↗ the resolution that we are asking uh

2:02:01 ↗ Council to pass um but the decarb

2:02:04 ↗ decarbonization assessment really looks

2:02:06 ↗ at how can we uh remove um fossil fuel

2:02:13 ↗ use in our facilities right so it goes

2:02:15 ↗ even Step Beyond the energy audits to

2:02:19 ↗ ways that we can uh decarbonize our

2:02:21 ↗ buildings and look at all of those

2:02:23 ↗ different projects that will achieve

2:02:26 ↗ that for our buildings this is also

2:02:29 ↗ looking at um All City buildings right

2:02:32 ↗ so uh with the same exceptions perhaps

2:02:35 ↗ as the the benchmarking but this will be

2:02:38 ↗ looking at all buildings so that we uh

2:02:41 ↗ with the result of all of these

2:02:42 ↗ assessments layered together we should

2:02:44 ↗ have an idea on what equipment needs to

2:02:47 ↗ be replaced when what equipment is going

2:02:50 ↗ to have um the best Energy Efficiency

2:02:53 ↗ improvements what equipment needs to be

2:02:55 ↗ replaced for um decarbonization goals

2:02:58 ↗ and greenhouse gas reduction goals and

2:03:01 ↗ kind of being able to layer them all

2:03:03 ↗ together so we know when and where to

2:03:05 ↗ invest our funds yes can we add uh which

2:03:10 ↗ buildings would good to be good to have

2:03:12 ↗ distributed energy on it like solar

2:03:14 ↗ panels that is included in the

2:03:16 ↗ decarbonization assessment yeah so the

2:03:19 ↗ scoping effort for that is kind of

2:03:21 ↗ undergoing right uh underway right now

2:03:23 ↗ but that's going to be looking including

2:03:25 ↗ information on renewable energy on uh

2:03:27 ↗ municipal buildings as well as things

2:03:30 ↗ like electric vehicle charging

2:03:32 ↗ infrastructure um and electrical

2:03:34 ↗ capacity existing electrical capacity of

2:03:36 ↗ buildings and things like that love it

2:03:38 ↗ so

2:03:40 ↗ exciting my only comment is

2:03:42 ↗ departmentation should include more than

2:03:44 ↗ just buildings and so while I looked at

2:03:47 ↗ the title to Res resolution that you

2:03:49 ↗ have proposed it needs to F it needs to

2:03:51 ↗ say that it's just buildings in the

2:03:53 ↗ resolution because the city has more to

2:03:55 ↗ do on decarbonization I think we've

2:03:57 ↗ talked about equipment we've talked

2:03:59 ↗ about vehicles and I think we should be

2:04:02 ↗ going further is my suggestion to you so

2:04:04 ↗ if you want to focus on a resolution to

2:04:07 ↗ take advantage of all the work on

2:04:08 ↗ buildings being done just call it

2:04:10 ↗ decarbonization of buildings okay and

2:04:12 ↗ then next bring forward the next piece

2:04:15 ↗ of this which is decarbonization of

2:04:17 ↗ other things in the city right

2:04:19 ↗ thank

2:04:21 ↗ you great work thank you so much for

2:04:23 ↗ doing this

2:04:26 ↗ sure all right I think with that we're

2:04:29 ↗ we'll come back to that that'll be

2:04:31 ↗ something we'll take action on at the

2:04:32 ↗ next meeting thank you David um any

2:04:35 ↗ other business or anything to cover

2:04:38 ↗ reports I'll just share um I'm gonna

2:04:40 ↗ start doing updates on Council meetings

2:04:44 ↗ what's just recently happened with

2:04:45 ↗ Council what's coming up I'll send out

2:04:47 ↗ an email with with those highlights um

2:04:50 ↗ tomorrow for you um and then just to

2:04:53 ↗ know what is coming up um next meeting

2:04:57 ↗ is uh continued conversations on the

2:04:59 ↗ comp plan we'll uh look to take action

2:05:02 ↗ on the decar building decarbonization

2:05:05 ↗ resolution and then we'll also um we're

2:05:09 ↗ going to do a a intro to the sustainable

2:05:12 ↗ purchasing strategy to prepare

2:05:14 ↗ for for getting some additional input

2:05:17 ↗ from

2:05:23 ↗ awesome thank you

2:05:25 ↗ I as long as we don't have any other

2:05:27 ↗ business I think we are adjourned thank

2:05:29 ↗ you everyone thank

2:05:31 ↗ you thank you as we doing this David are

2:05:35 ↗ are you also looking at um what

2:05:38 ↗ buildings you

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