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Monday, November 27, 2023

7:00 PM · 2h 4m

Topics tracked across meetings:

Economic Development Plan Update COM 0225 ›››››››››››››››››››››››››› 21/27

Economic Vitality Commission · Jan 22, 2020 → Economic Vitality Commission · May 18, 2022 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jun 15, 2022 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jul 20, 2022 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 11, 2022 → Economic Vitality Commission · Aug 17, 2022 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jan 18, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Feb 15, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Apr 19, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · May 17, 2023 → Arts Commission · Jun 21, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jun 21, 2023 → Equity Board · Jul 5, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jul 5, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jul 19, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Aug 16, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Sep 20, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Oct 18, 2023 → Arts Commission · Nov 13, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Nov 15, 2023 → Park Board · Nov 27, 2023 → Equity Board · Dec 6, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Dec 13, 2023 → Services, Safety & Parks Committee · Jan 23, 2024 → City Council Regular Meeting · Feb 5, 2024 → City Council Committee of the Whole · May 9, 2026 → City Council Committee of the Whole · Jun 8, 2026

◀ Prev: Economic Vitality Commission · Nov 15, 2023 View full lifecycle → Next: Equity Board · Dec 6, 2023 ▶

Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update AB 8796 ›››››››››››››››››› 11/19

Planning Policy Commission · Jun 26, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Jul 10, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 14, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 28, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Sep 11, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Oct 2, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Nov 13, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Feb 23, 2023 → Planning, Development & Environment Committee · Mar 28, 2023 → Human Services Commission · Sep 20, 2023 → Park Board · Nov 27, 2023 → hearing examiner · Jun 6, 2024 → Planning Policy Commission · Jul 25, 2024 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 8, 2024 → Environmental Board · Aug 14, 2024 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 22, 2024 → Planning Policy Commission · Sep 12, 2024 → City Council Committee of the Whole · Nov 18, 2024 → City Council Regular Meeting · Dec 2, 2024

◀ Prev: Human Services Commission · Sep 20, 2023 View full lifecycle → Next: Planning Policy Commission · Jul 25, 2024 ▶

Julius Boehm Pool Feasibility Study AB 8750 ››› 2/4

Arts Commission · May 21, 2015 → Park Board · Nov 27, 2023 → Services, Safety & Parks Committee · Dec 11, 2023 → City Council Regular Meeting · Jan 16, 2024

◀ Prev: Arts Commission · May 21, 2015 View full lifecycle → Next: Services, Safety & Parks Committee · Dec 11, 2023 ▶

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of October 23, 2023

packet pp.3–4

Open packet at p.3 ↗

Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 10-23-23 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave October 23, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update and Park System Plan Update: Goals & Policies, (D,A)

40 min · Robin Spear, Park Planning and Development Manager Valerie Porter, Associate Planner · packet pp.5–24

Topics: Land UseParks

▶ Watch from 6:26 Open packet at p.5 ↗

Staff report:

Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update and Park System Plan Update: Goals & Policies Draft NOVEMBER 27, 2023 | PARK BOARD Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

Julius Boehm Pool Feasibility Study

20 min · Brian Berntsen, Recreation Services Manager NAC Architecture, Consultant · packet pp.25–54

Topics: Parks

▶ Watch from 46:26 Open packet at p.25 ↗

Staff report:

> BROOKE HANLEY BRIAN LOVE, AIA AIA, LEED AP Project Architect & Design Lead Project Manager & Aquatics Specialty

Economic Development Action Plan

20 min · Farel Otieno, Economic Development Coordinator · packet pp.55–63

Topics: Economic Development

▶ Watch from 1:06:26 Open packet at p.55 ↗

Staff report:

• 2015-2018 Economic Vitality Strategic Plan • 2019 City’s Strategic Plan • Change in Economic Development – eliminated Department, number of staff reduced

5. REPORTS

Chairperson's Report

Youth Representative's Report

packet pp.65

Open packet at p.65 ↗

Staff report:

REPORTS c) Ongoing Calendar – tentative and a working document Month Agenda Items Month Agenda Items January 23 • Title 18 Draft July 24- • TOUR and/or Board meeting at a • Recreation Update cancelled park? • 2023 Work Plan – Ad Hoc groups?

Director's Report

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0:02 ↗ so uh we're gonna this meeting is a

0:04 ↗ little special um with two of our normal

0:08 ↗ staff uh calling in from remote due to

0:13 ↗ that wonderful pandemic covid uh giving

0:17 ↗ them a a

0:19 ↗ vacation and uh so we'll start the

0:21 ↗ meeting and call to order and then I'll

0:24 ↗ go ahead and uh take rooll so um I'll

0:28 ↗ just go down the list and we'll see

0:30 ↗ who's on just in case we can't see any

0:34 ↗ everybody um okay is Marlene

0:40 ↗ here I don't see her yet okay but I

0:43 ↗ think she plans to show up she mentioned

0:45 ↗ that she

0:46 ↗ would uh

0:48 ↗ Zach I am here thank you Andrew

0:58 ↗ aloquin and AP oliz there were a couple

1:01 ↗ excuse absences but now I can't remember

1:03 ↗ who they were I think it was Katie and

1:05 ↗ Tim uh David

1:08 ↗ Lou just

1:10 ↗ arrived I'll come back to him real quick

1:13 ↗ uh Nicholas

1:14 ↗ Lee

1:17 ↗ present David Lou present perfect Branda

1:22 ↗ Spears

1:24 ↗ present and Katie has an excuse or

1:27 ↗ called in absence and Tim monley has

1:30 ↗ called in absence Brad book I'm

1:35 ↗ here Andrew

1:39 ↗ Meyers and Ryan Olsen here and I'm here

1:44 ↗ okay with that we'll move to the next

1:45 ↗ item uh did everybody have a chance to

1:48 ↗ review the minutes from the last

1:52 ↗ meeting any corrections uh or changes to

1:56 ↗ be

1:58 ↗ noted

2:01 ↗ right seeing none I will uh approve the

2:05 ↗ previous meeting's

2:07 ↗ minutes and with that uh we're gonna

2:11 ↗ open up for public comments it looks

2:13 ↗ like we might have somebody

2:19 ↗ interested Connie are you here for

2:21 ↗ public

2:22 ↗ comments okay uh please go

2:28 ↗ ahead

2:30 ↗ M you're oh you're muted somebody might

2:33 ↗ need to unmute

2:43 ↗ her hang on a sec Connie we can't hear

2:46 ↗ you

2:47 ↗ yet need to

2:49 ↗ do do we need to do that on theet I'm

2:52 ↗ working on it give working on it did con

2:57 ↗ oh there you go you're good Connie

3:02 ↗ I uh I have a Mac the little symbols

3:04 ↗ that's on this is not on my keyboard so

3:07 ↗ I was guessing so wooo good for me okay

3:10 ↗ Connie Marsh I live on squawk

3:12 ↗ mountain and um you've gotten a few

3:16 ↗ things for me because I deep archived

3:18 ↗ into the pool history because the pool

3:20 ↗ history was sort of uh a long painful

3:25 ↗ situation and so

3:28 ↗ um I I'm interested in probably one

3:34 ↗ thing really about the pools and that is

3:37 ↗ because all the forward thrust pools are

3:39 ↗ decaying sort of at the same rate and

3:42 ↗ many of the towns with these forward

3:44 ↗ thrust pools are going through this

3:46 ↗ study at exactly the same time I'm

3:49 ↗ wondering if King County is somehow

3:52 ↗ looking at creating a larger funding

3:56 ↗ opportunity that would conquer our uh a

4:00 ↗ a problem with half of the pool being

4:03 ↗ serving people outside isqua borders and

4:06 ↗ that has always been a problem with

4:07 ↗ getting funding for our pools and that's

4:09 ↗ how we got the original forward thrust

4:12 ↗ and I was actually wondering if that

4:14 ↗ could be on some sort of lobbying agenda

4:18 ↗ because it seems like it's more of a

4:20 ↗ Statewide issue at this point in time

4:22 ↗ with so many pools having the same issue

4:25 ↗ at the same time or at least larger than

4:27 ↗ the city of isqua so uh as I gathered

4:31 ↗ all of this information together that

4:32 ↗ was my main thought was to try to raise

4:36 ↗ the level of that from isqua to a

4:39 ↗ regional situation and how to do that

4:42 ↗ okay and then the next thing is the

4:45 ↗ comprehensive plan and strategic plan

4:48 ↗ language and especially when we are

4:51 ↗ looking at our Urban Forest management

4:54 ↗ plan and

4:56 ↗ after I don't know a gazillion years

4:59 ↗ because I'm getting old of watching The

5:01 ↗ City the wear

5:04 ↗ feasible means you never actually have

5:07 ↗ to do it so I really don't want an urban

5:11 ↗ Forest management plan in isqua to be

5:13 ↗ painted on green where we did the study

5:17 ↗ but now we can never actually get

5:19 ↗ anybody to do what we think they should

5:22 ↗ from this plan right so why waste the

5:27 ↗ money if we actually aren't going to do

5:28 ↗ it is this qu green or we painted on

5:31 ↗ green I think we need to make the

5:33 ↗ decision one way or the other and just

5:35 ↗ stop faking it right it's not where

5:37 ↗ feasible it's we need an urban Forest

5:40 ↗ management plan so that we can have the

5:43 ↗ city of isqua that we feel our entire

5:46 ↗ Vision depends on and we feasible and

5:50 ↗ applicable on any level does not does

5:54 ↗ not meet that I can't see if Valerie is

5:56 ↗ there somewhere but hi Valerie welcome

5:58 ↗ back if you you are if you are there and

6:01 ↗ those are are um my my two main points

6:06 ↗ for this evening thank

6:09 ↗ you thank you very much I'm assuming you

6:13 ↗ can mute

6:14 ↗ me Santi

6:20 ↗ can there you are look like you're muted

6:23 ↗ thank you uh okay so then before we go

6:26 ↗ into regular business I think we have an

6:28 ↗ introduction here and let Robin make

6:31 ↗ that yeah I'll start off Julie cassada

6:34 ↗ is here with us tonight another

6:36 ↗ landscape architect but she is our new

6:38 ↗ senior planner with the planning Parks

6:40 ↗ planning team we're excited to have her

6:43 ↗ on board very helpful very knowledgeable

6:46 ↗ and ready to dive into projects and

6:48 ↗ jefff I didn't know if you wanted to

6:50 ↗ expand on

6:52 ↗ that sure sure a little bit thanks Robin

6:56 ↗ uh Julie welcome uh so excited um

7:00 ↗ uh maybe you know give Julie a chance to

7:01 ↗ say hi uh she comes with a great breath

7:04 ↗ of experience as a landscape architect

7:06 ↗ uh has done a lot of Trail work uh for

7:08 ↗ Newcastle has done a lot of Trail work

7:10 ↗ with uh WTA the Washington Trails

7:13 ↗ Association um and again is filling our

7:17 ↗ our senior Park planner position the

7:19 ↗ position that that Jen Fink held before

7:21 ↗ we're just thrilled to have Julie on

7:22 ↗ board and uh just excited to really have

7:26 ↗ a team with with Robin and Julie um in

7:28 ↗ our Park planning uh division ready to

7:30 ↗ ready to go so thanks for those few

7:33 ↗ minutes uh welcome

7:36 ↗ Julie thanks Jeff and Robin uh nice to

7:38 ↗ meet you all I'm glad to be here I'm uh

7:41 ↗ putting it all together getting familiar

7:43 ↗ with the city um beyond what I was

7:46 ↗ already aware of and um look forward to

7:49 ↗ getting to know the projects that I'm

7:51 ↗ working on and the history and more

7:53 ↗ about all of you so I love public lands

7:56 ↗ love parks and

7:58 ↗ trails um

8:00 ↗ I enjoy backpacking and an obscure sport

8:05 ↗ orienteering um so I'm an avid user of

8:09 ↗ public lands and I look forward to

8:11 ↗ seeing what I could do here in

8:16 ↗ esqua thank

8:18 ↗ you uh okay so then the next uh uh go to

8:22 ↗ regular

8:23 ↗ business and Jeff you're going to

8:26 ↗ present about the comprehensive plan

8:28 ↗ periodic

8:30 ↗ update and park system plan and the

8:32 ↗ goals and policies and uh for all the uh

8:37 ↗ board members this is uh one of our

8:40 ↗ items where we're Park staff will be

8:42 ↗ looking for some action from us and you

8:45 ↗ know which would be you know a

8:47 ↗ recommendation that they can move staff

8:50 ↗ move forward with the draft goals and

8:51 ↗ this just be a recommendation to move

8:53 ↗ forward with the draft level and then it

8:55 ↗ would come back to us again in uh said

8:58 ↗ Q2 of 2024 so in a few

9:02 ↗ months perfect introduction Chris and

9:05 ↗ with that in in my current state of mind

9:08 ↗ sorry I'm not with you all um I'm going

9:10 ↗ to hand it over to the capable hands of

9:12 ↗ of Robin and Valerie to to start the

9:15 ↗ discussion yeah we're gonna tag team on

9:17 ↗ this one tonight but um just to kind of

9:20 ↗ piggyback on our discussion from last

9:23 ↗ month we do want to come back to the

9:25 ↗ goals and policies and introduce our

9:27 ↗ proposed policies that um we developed

9:30 ↗ based on your comments and we'll review

9:32 ↗ those but we wanted to make sure this

9:34 ↗ really tied back into the comprehensive

9:36 ↗ plan ofd dat so Valerie and Stephen are

9:39 ↗ here to give you a little overview of

9:42 ↗ where there are what the comprehensive

9:43 ↗ plan is about where they're at and where

9:45 ↗ they're headed

9:48 ↗ next

9:49 ↗ next okay next slide

9:55 ↗ please should I go this one yeah yeah

10:00 ↗ so what we want to do is kind of give

10:01 ↗ you a brief overview which Valerie and I

10:03 ↗ will dig into a little bit more but

10:05 ↗ really the comprehensive Plan update is

10:07 ↗ required every eight years to ensure to

10:10 ↗ ensure compliance with the growth

10:12 ↗ management act which is a state

10:15 ↗ requirement um they have a deadline of

10:17 ↗ December 31st 2024 so we're all working

10:20 ↗ together to review those elements and

10:22 ↗ making sure the the park portion of

10:25 ↗ those elements are updated and we're all

10:27 ↗ thinking the same way

10:29 ↗ um and planning for the same things uh

10:31 ↗ it includes a public participation

10:33 ↗ program for comments and feedback so

10:35 ↗ this isn't the only chance it will have

10:37 ↗ more chances to come in and give

10:39 ↗ comments um we want to make sure this

10:41 ↗ really aligns with our goals and

10:43 ↗ policies of the 2018 Park strategic plan

10:46 ↗ but our and also our upcoming 2024 Park

10:50 ↗ system

10:51 ↗ update and then after Valerie gets done

10:53 ↗ I I'll be diving back into the park

10:56 ↗ goals and policies where we're going to

10:58 ↗ show that align with the comprehensive

11:00 ↗ plans Capital facilities land use

11:02 ↗ elements and other City

11:04 ↗ priorities um it helps to establish our

11:07 ↗ level of service to indicate future

11:09 ↗ facility needs uh the level of service

11:12 ↗ also speaks opportunities for grant

11:14 ↗ funding which we'll definitely be going

11:16 ↗ for and looking at at the end of 2024 to

11:18 ↗ see what's coming up for 2025 and

11:21 ↗ helping align those projects with um the

11:24 ↗ projects priority projects we we're

11:26 ↗ going to present in the park system Plan

11:28 ↗ update

11:29 ↗ and definitely the goals and pol we want

11:31 ↗ to keep reiterating the goals and

11:33 ↗ policies will be brought back um this

11:36 ↗ isn't the final draft is in final

11:38 ↗ iteration but we have at least one more

11:40 ↗ chance for everyone to comment and re

11:44 ↗ start keep tweaking things if we need to

11:46 ↗ tweak them

11:47 ↗ so and with that I'll hand it over to

11:51 ↗ Valerie our associate Planner yeah hi

11:53 ↗ everyone Valley Reporter associate

11:55 ↗ planner with the community Planning and

11:57 ↗ Development Department also know as also

11:59 ↗ known as CPD um as a department we deal

12:02 ↗ with development in the city so that's

12:03 ↗ residential commercial industrial um we

12:06 ↗ review and um issue land use and

12:09 ↗ construction permits we do um

12:12 ↗ inspections we also develop neighborhood

12:14 ↗ plans and regulations for uh land use

12:17 ↗ code and then we're also responsible for

12:19 ↗ updating the comprehensive plan so I'm

12:22 ↗ just going to keep this information very

12:24 ↗ high level um so just to get us started

12:27 ↗ so we know how this came about um in

12:30 ↗ 1990 the growth management Act was

12:32 ↗ adopted and that required fast growing

12:34 ↗ cities and counties to develop a

12:36 ↗ comprehensive plan that would guide

12:38 ↗ future growth for a 20year span this law

12:42 ↗ intended cities and counties to address

12:44 ↗ ra uh population growth the quality of

12:48 ↗ life for Washington and so if you look

12:50 ↗ at the graphic you'll notice that

12:52 ↗ planning occurs at different levels at

12:54 ↗ the local level and then cities and then

12:57 ↗ at multiple counties

13:00 ↗ in order for the city to comply with the

13:01 ↗ state requirement and like R Robin said

13:03 ↗ to remain eligible for federal and state

13:06 ↗ grants it's a qua much draft

13:08 ↗ comprehensive plan and it's required to

13:10 ↗ address 14 um required goals and this

13:13 ↗ could include housing or this will

13:14 ↗ include housing Transportation Economic

13:17 ↗ Development and urban growth just to

13:19 ↗ name a few next

13:22 ↗ Slide the required goals are discussed

13:25 ↗ in elements that make up the

13:26 ↗ comprehensive plan the city's uh

13:29 ↗ comprehensive plan has 10 elements that

13:31 ↗ are shown here on the slide and each

13:34 ↗ element lists the vision goals and

13:37 ↗ policies for that

13:39 ↗ topic next slide

13:42 ↗ please Al the although the comprehensive

13:45 ↗ plan is a 20-year plan changes occur

13:48 ↗ within that time so it's important to

13:49 ↗ keep the comprehensive plan updated the

13:52 ↗ comprehensive plan um can be updated in

13:54 ↗ two ways annually and through a periodic

13:57 ↗ update mannually updates occur or or

14:01 ↗ they usually address minor um changes so

14:03 ↗ something like um a zoning map would be

14:06 ↗ changed and that can occur because um a

14:09 ↗ parcel was re rezoned or um the city

14:12 ↗ recently acquired some new property so

14:14 ↗ we would update the zoning map and that

14:16 ↗ would occur through an annual update we

14:18 ↗ would also um update a single element

14:21 ↗ through a year um and again we would do

14:23 ↗ that just to try to be consistent with

14:25 ↗ supporting plans and make sure that

14:26 ↗ we're dat so the second update would be

14:30 ↗ the periodic um update which is what the

14:33 ↗ city is currently in the process um the

14:35 ↗ city is required to update the comp plan

14:37 ↗ every 10 years which was recently

14:39 ↗ changed from every eight years and we're

14:41 ↗ drafting the 2024 plan to guide

14:44 ↗ development through 2044 so with these

14:47 ↗ two um updates our comprehensive plan

14:50 ↗ stays fairly

14:52 ↗ updated next

14:56 ↗ slide so there are a few goals that we

15:00 ↗ would like the comprehensive Plan update

15:02 ↗ to achieve the first one is

15:04 ↗ compliance um we would like to make sure

15:06 ↗ that the plan is compliant with State

15:08 ↗ and County requirements many of these

15:10 ↗ requirements are for housing um so none

15:13 ↗ of the requirements will impact the

15:15 ↗ parking element the second goal is

15:17 ↗ coordination so we really want to make

15:20 ↗ sure that there's coordination between

15:21 ↗ the elements the first thing we want is

15:23 ↗ to make sure there are no duplicates

15:24 ↗ between the elements that just causes

15:26 ↗ confusion and makes it really

15:29 ↗ um troubling when we're trying to update

15:31 ↗ one element and there's a duplicate

15:33 ↗ policy and we also want all of the

15:35 ↗ elements to align with the land use um

15:38 ↗ the land uses and the growth

15:40 ↗ projection the third goal for this

15:42 ↗ update is the design and access we would

15:45 ↗ like the comprehensive plan to be

15:46 ↗ designed and place in a spot that is

15:48 ↗ easily accessible and it could be a

15:50 ↗ usable tool for all of the staff and um

15:53 ↗ also the

15:55 ↗ public next

15:57 ↗ slide

15:59 ↗ so the comprehensive plan is essential

16:01 ↗ for local planning as it articulates a

16:03 ↗ series of goals objectives and policies

16:06 ↗ that are intended to guide day-to-day

16:08 ↗ Decisions by elected officials and the

16:10 ↗ local government so this slide shows um

16:14 ↗ a flowchart kind of illustrating how the

16:16 ↗ comprehensive plan pays apart and with

16:18 ↗ other City plans and regulations at the

16:21 ↗ top you'll see the comprehensive plan

16:22 ↗ and how it IND identifies the vision of

16:25 ↗ how the city wants to plan and grow the

16:27 ↗ vision talks about why why is this is a

16:30 ↗ quad Vision the goals and the policies

16:33 ↗ then talk about what the city wants the

16:36 ↗ comprehens of plan then feeds into the

16:38 ↗ functional plans and we're calling U

16:40 ↗ what we're calling functional plans are

16:41 ↗ like the master Mobility plan the parks

16:44 ↗ plan the um Human Services strategic

16:46 ↗ plan these are functional plans that

16:48 ↗ discuss the implementation and they

16:50 ↗ provide the framework on how we actually

16:53 ↗ achieve these goals through strategies

16:55 ↗ actions and possible resources the

16:58 ↗ functional plans then inform the city

17:01 ↗ budget and regulations like the isqua

17:03 ↗ municipal code and there it then feeds

17:06 ↗ into a performance metrics that will be

17:08 ↗ checked annually to make sure that the

17:09 ↗ city's on track for reaching those goals

17:13 ↗ next slide

17:16 ↗ please this slide is showing a VIN

17:18 ↗ diagram that shows the relationship

17:20 ↗ between the comprehensive plan and the

17:22 ↗ functional plan so you'll notice that

17:24 ↗ the vision is listed in the element and

17:27 ↗ then that there's a little bit of

17:28 ↗ overlap with the goalss and the policies

17:31 ↗ these and then the strategies are listed

17:32 ↗ in the functional plan the goals and

17:35 ↗ policies will be the only um items that

17:38 ↗ will be listed in both of these

17:39 ↗ documents but truly the documents are

17:41 ↗ separate um and the goals and policies

17:44 ↗ listed in the functional plan will more

17:46 ↗ so be for reference just so people kind

17:48 ↗ of understand um the main purpose and

17:51 ↗ understand where the strategies and

17:52 ↗ actions are coming

17:55 ↗ from next

17:57 ↗ slide

18:00 ↗ yeah so kind of transitioning over those

18:03 ↗ goals and policies are being crafted

18:05 ↗ with our Park system uh update our Park

18:07 ↗ system Plan update so and then they'll

18:10 ↗ be kind of uploaded so to speak up into

18:13 ↗ the comprehensive plan so we want to

18:15 ↗ make sure that our Visions are aligning

18:18 ↗ with the overall V City Vision and that

18:20 ↗ we're saying the same thing so um so

18:23 ↗ again last month we talked about goals

18:25 ↗ and policies and again um goals and

18:28 ↗ policies kind of take the community's

18:30 ↗ vision and translate them into a focused

18:32 ↗ Direction providing guidance for

18:35 ↗ implementation preservation funding and

18:38 ↗ management um again it's a guiding

18:40 ↗ document it's not set in stone but we

18:43 ↗ want to be able to reference these goals

18:44 ↗ and policies as we're developing

18:47 ↗ projects as we're reviewing projects and

18:48 ↗ making sure that it's still um aligning

18:52 ↗ with our overall Vision um we looked at

18:54 ↗ eight goals that were based off of the

18:57 ↗ 2018 plan

18:58 ↗ so we have parks for today and future

19:00 ↗ Generations the balance Park system

19:02 ↗ connectivity planning and design

19:04 ↗ considerations environmental

19:06 ↗ preservation maintenance and stewardship

19:08 ↗ Partnerships and

19:09 ↗ implementation so just based on your

19:12 ↗ feedback we want to keep those the same

19:14 ↗ and kind of expand off of those and keep

19:16 ↗ the same policies but tweak it a little

19:19 ↗ based on what we're hearing in the

19:21 ↗ community and hearing from the park

19:22 ↗ board members okay next

19:25 ↗ slide so these were the original or the

19:30 ↗ 2018 uh goals and policies and what we

19:33 ↗ did is just put a across on the ones

19:36 ↗ that we've updated or added on to so we

19:40 ↗ have the balance Park system our

19:41 ↗ planning and design considerations

19:43 ↗ environmental preservation Partnerships

19:46 ↗ and implementation were the primary

19:48 ↗ focus last

19:50 ↗ month okay so I just want to make sure

19:53 ↗ that we heard everything and we got the

19:55 ↗ feedback um correct so um Hassan and I

19:59 ↗ went through all our our um our meeting

20:03 ↗ notes and this is what we heard I just

20:06 ↗ want to review these with you and make

20:07 ↗ sure we didn't miss anything so the

20:10 ↗ first one how can we Foster Economic

20:12 ↗ Development into the system plan uh

20:15 ↗ second integrate the native tribes into

20:17 ↗ the planning and design of new projects

20:20 ↗ third integrate artwork educational

20:22 ↗ historical and cultural elements into

20:24 ↗ the design of new projects uh integrate

20:27 ↗ the Heritage tree an urban Forest

20:29 ↗ management plan into the environmental

20:31 ↗ preservation goal uh develop metrics to

20:34 ↗ evaluate the progress of the system plan

20:37 ↗ and projects and integrate technology

20:39 ↗ into the implementation goal such as GIS

20:43 ↗ we'll look at level of service again any

20:45 ↗ other U new technology we see coming we

20:48 ↗ like to kind of incorporate as much as

20:50 ↗ possible and we're feasible and we're

20:53 ↗ applicable so if there's anything we

20:55 ↗ missed you know let us know um

20:59 ↗ that sound about right based on on

21:02 ↗ comments okay okay great next

21:08 ↗ slide oh

21:11 ↗ Nicholas I was just gonna say I really

21:13 ↗ appreciate number five on that previous

21:15 ↗ slide so thank you for slipping that in

21:16 ↗ there as a objective of the overall

21:20 ↗ update you're welcome number five just

21:23 ↗ go yeah develop metrics to evaluate the

21:26 ↗ progress of the system plan projects no

21:28 ↗ that's important for us and Julie and I

21:31 ↗ are are starting to dig into that as

21:33 ↗ well as as we're running through

21:35 ↗ projects and seeing what's coming up

21:36 ↗ next year bu plate next year which is

21:40 ↗ exciting okay next next

21:43 ↗ slide all right so our first proposed

21:47 ↗ additional policy was for the balance

21:49 ↗ Park system and policy B point6 seek to

21:53 ↗ understand the economic benefits the

21:55 ↗ park system provides while balancing

21:58 ↗ residential use with regional

22:02 ↗ visitors and we know that that's

22:04 ↗ becoming a big part of Park systems is

22:06 ↗ how to Foster that and how to um

22:11 ↗ integrate tourism integrate more

22:14 ↗ Economic Development into the parks uh

22:16 ↗ it seems like a more sustainable program

22:19 ↗ depending on what's coming in but it it

22:21 ↗ provides a little bit more um revenue

22:24 ↗ for for

22:26 ↗ the for parks in

22:29 ↗ general um do you like the way that's

22:31 ↗ crafted or do you want to see any

22:34 ↗ additional tweaks

22:37 ↗ or I think well I'll just ask after each

22:40 ↗ one you know we can review it and see if

22:42 ↗ you like it again this isn't the final

22:44 ↗ final so um you do have time again to

22:47 ↗ think about it a little bit more and

22:48 ↗ offer more

22:53 ↗ suggestions Chris could we put seek to

22:56 ↗ understand and measure economic benefits

22:59 ↗ 10

23:01 ↗ C and put some numbers to

23:09 ↗ it that sound good okay great next

23:15 ↗ slide all right and gold D probably has

23:17 ↗ the most additions to it but starting

23:19 ↗ out policy d18 or proposed Edition

23:23 ↗ ensure that the native tribes are

23:24 ↗ included in in the Outreach and review

23:27 ↗ with within the planning process and I

23:30 ↗ know this is something we're starting to

23:32 ↗ strengthen but I think it's a great

23:34 ↗ policy

23:36 ↗ addition want me to run through just all

23:38 ↗ three and then we'll we can discuss all

23:41 ↗ three sure okay d19 Ure public art or an

23:45 ↗ AR artistic process that provides

23:48 ↗ culture storytelling history or

23:50 ↗ education is considered an included

23:52 ↗ early in the design process of the new

23:54 ↗ project where

23:55 ↗ feasible it could either be an art

23:58 ↗ element or bringing in an artist into

24:00 ↗ the design process which I've seen done

24:02 ↗ times which gives us just more

24:04 ↗ opportunity to incorporated as much as

24:08 ↗ possible and then policy D20 recognize

24:11 ↗ the economic benefits that the park

24:12 ↗ system provides when planning projects

24:15 ↗ and providing services within the system

24:18 ↗ and again it's that economic peace

24:20 ↗ economic development but integrated into

24:23 ↗ the planning process as

24:25 ↗ well so we can hit it either with the

24:28 ↗ existing park or during the planning

24:30 ↗ process and kind of think ahead on that

24:33 ↗ one and

24:35 ↗ Jeff thanks great overview Robin and

24:38 ↗ Valerie I just want to add to to this

24:40 ↗ one and and other ones coming up uh I

24:42 ↗ think given the public comment um again

24:44 ↗ we're open to some some thoughts by the

24:47 ↗ park board but you know for example the

24:49 ↗ the the policy

24:51 ↗ d19 um our intent of we we feasible was

24:55 ↗ not to say we're never going to do it um

24:57 ↗ based on some of the initial public

24:59 ↗ comment I think we as staff would be

25:01 ↗ fine striking those two words our intent

25:05 ↗ of this PO policy and really many of the

25:07 ↗ other ones is just to reaffirm our our

25:09 ↗ mindfulness as we as we head into and

25:12 ↗ into into projects and um being very

25:15 ↗ mindful of Art and

25:18 ↗ storytelling um for this

25:23 ↗ policy okay so let's jump back um to d8

25:29 ↗ anything else that we want to add or or

25:31 ↗ recraft in that

25:36 ↗ one

25:38 ↗ good great thumbs up okay uh how about

25:42 ↗ d19 the our our portion of

25:50 ↗ it is this where we would remove where

25:53 ↗ feasible and we can remove where

25:55 ↗ feasible yeah and just strike that

25:58 ↗ sure I think Nicholas did you have your

26:00 ↗ hand up on that one no okay and then D20

26:05 ↗ again coming back to recognizing the

26:07 ↗ economic benefits that could be

26:09 ↗ developed um during the planning and

26:11 ↗ design stages I just have a question 18

26:16 ↗ um the native tribes we really wanted to

26:19 ↗ hit that but should there be a comma and

26:21 ↗ other

26:22 ↗ cultures that's a good point yeah yeah

26:25 ↗ expand that even of narrows it oh we

26:27 ↗ went

26:28 ↗ we're trying to earlier a month or two

26:30 ↗ ago we're talking about getting the park

26:32 ↗ so that more cultures right are shown

26:35 ↗ there and utiliz yeah now that's a great

26:38 ↗ that's a great great comment good

26:44 ↗ idea okay can I ask a question sure yeah

26:49 ↗ um can you guys um maybe expand on what

26:51 ↗ you mean by economic benefits in policy

26:54 ↗ uh

26:56 ↗ E20 yeah Jeff do you want to take on

26:58 ↗ this one I know we we had a discussion

27:00 ↗ about this this morning

27:04 ↗ too sure um again I think it's just

27:08 ↗ recognizing our mindfulness as we go

27:11 ↗ into planning projects designing

27:12 ↗ projects that um our Park system um has

27:18 ↗ has many economic benefits um

27:22 ↗ including um um you know economic

27:26 ↗ benefits that that speak to quality of

27:28 ↗ life and livability and um you know

27:31 ↗ property values for existing residents

27:33 ↗ for example um other economic benefits

27:36 ↗ are um again you know is it you

27:40 ↗ know how we manage how we Steward how we

27:43 ↗ invest in our Park system is that

27:45 ↗ helping to Inc incubate more private

27:47 ↗ investment um into uh the community or

27:50 ↗ attracting the type of businesses that

27:52 ↗ isqua wants and so uh this is just

27:56 ↗ wanting to recognize you know economic

27:58 ↗ benefit is not meant to be The Driver of

27:59 ↗ our Park system um I think the driver of

28:02 ↗ our Park system is serving our our

28:03 ↗ residents but but understanding if we do

28:06 ↗ this thoughtfully and do it well um we

28:08 ↗ want to be aware um and again remain

28:11 ↗ mindful of those economic

28:13 ↗ benefits great thank you as we develop

28:16 ↗ the ones in downtown is well right now

28:19 ↗ you'll see more people coming in I hope

28:21 ↗ to bring their children in and they'll

28:23 ↗ be going to the businesses and there'll

28:24 ↗ be a big economic indate we hope impact

28:28 ↗ downtown that's right yeah it not only

28:31 ↗ benefits the park but but will benefit

28:33 ↗ surrounding businesses as

28:36 ↗ well good good

28:39 ↗ one okay uh next

28:42 ↗ slide oh I have my hand raised

28:46 ↗ is great thanks sorry it's a little

28:48 ↗ awkward online um I like where Brenda

28:51 ↗ was uh going with making sure that we're

28:53 ↗ being inclusive of all um communities

28:56 ↗ I'm curious if we already have have

28:58 ↗ language in the goals and policies that

29:01 ↗ ensure that we're taking like the full

29:03 ↗ community of isqua I just want to be

29:05 ↗ careful about the language that we use

29:07 ↗ around othering people and so I just

29:10 ↗ wanted to one understand do we already

29:12 ↗ have language that talks about taking a

29:14 ↗ diverse look at our community and then

29:16 ↗ two if we are going to add in additional

29:19 ↗ words to native tribes let's just maybe

29:21 ↗ partner up with the um Equity committee

29:23 ↗ to ensure that we're wording that

29:25 ↗ correctly word matter

29:29 ↗ here yeah in reviewing some of the the

29:31 ↗ 2018 policies I know we did talk about

29:36 ↗ diversity and and I can pull those I

29:38 ↗ don't know I can't remember specifically

29:40 ↗ which one but I'll pull those out for

29:42 ↗ you Marlene to make sure but I think

29:44 ↗ that's a good point to make sure we are

29:46 ↗ covering that in

29:48 ↗ dat yeah or if it's already covered we

29:50 ↗ don't need to double cover it like I'm

29:52 ↗ fine with it we've already feel like

29:53 ↗ we've covered that we're ensuring that

29:55 ↗ we're taking a a you know you know broad

29:58 ↗ diverse swath of our community and these

30:00 ↗ um we don't need to add it here we can

30:02 ↗ let this one stand alone as Native

30:04 ↗ America native tribes um but if it is

30:06 ↗ not included I think then we should ask

30:08 ↗ the diversity committee should it be

30:10 ↗ included here with native tribe does it

30:12 ↗ stand better together or does it belong

30:14 ↗ somewhere else that's already included I

30:16 ↗ think that's that language needs to be

30:18 ↗ very well thought out versus just sort

30:20 ↗ of added on but I agree with the intent

30:22 ↗ as Brenda

30:24 ↗ mentioned great suggested approach um

30:27 ↗ Marlene yeah and yeah we can confirm

30:30 ↗ that we we've certainly talked about um

30:33 ↗ um access and um inclusion of all um all

30:37 ↗ community members um uh throughout the

30:40 ↗ the goals and policies and and perhaps

30:42 ↗ let this one speak to our um intent to

30:46 ↗ to really engage with the native

30:50 ↗ tribes I just was going to Pig you back

30:52 ↗ on what Jeff said and just let you know

30:54 ↗ that other elements are talking about

30:55 ↗ diversity and um other areas so we want

30:58 ↗ to stay specific for native tribes here

31:01 ↗ at okay maybe maybe if we find it's

31:04 ↗ necessary to put an additional policy

31:06 ↗ just for additional cultures and

31:08 ↗ diversity right in the planning and

31:10 ↗ design stage

31:12 ↗ specifically okay interested yeah

31:17 ↗ great okay any any other recommendations

31:20 ↗ or feedback

31:21 ↗ on this

31:25 ↗ portion great okay next one

31:33 ↗ okay so environmental preservation we

31:36 ↗ added policy .7 integrate the

31:39 ↗ recommendations and goals of the urban

31:41 ↗ Forest management plan into projects and

31:44 ↗ maintenance practices and this is

31:46 ↗ something we're talking to Dan hence

31:48 ↗ very closely with um I know they're just

31:51 ↗ starting in on their management plan

31:52 ↗ also so depending on the results they

31:55 ↗ get we'd really like to take a look at

31:57 ↗ that and start integrating that as much

31:58 ↗ as possible into any new projects and

32:01 ↗ see where where feasible into existing

32:05 ↗ projects and policy 88.8 recognize and

32:08 ↗ support trees designated with Heritage

32:11 ↗ trees status within the park system and

32:15 ↗ again um I Know Dan has um is reviewing

32:19 ↗ that policy as well and nominations how

32:21 ↗ to go about that so once that's complete

32:25 ↗ uh we'll be able to integrate that into

32:27 ↗ our environmental preservation again it

32:29 ↗ it belongs along in aliance with our

32:31 ↗ Steward stewardship vision and

32:34 ↗ goals and just reinforcing our

32:36 ↗ commitment to aligning this and our

32:38 ↗ stewardship of the park system um you'll

32:41 ↗ see in this proposed Edition we we would

32:44 ↗ um be more than welcome and and um

32:48 ↗ suggest and recommend striking where

32:50 ↗ feasible from

32:56 ↗ this how do those two sound on to

32:58 ↗ everybody

33:00 ↗ good

33:02 ↗ great everybody on oh

33:05 ↗ Nicholas sorry my brain's working slower

33:08 ↗ than we're progressing here so just on

33:12 ↗ the the E8 um you know an opportunity

33:15 ↗ this is just my thought to strengthen

33:18 ↗ the idea of supporting a tree that's

33:21 ↗ designated as Heritage it might just be

33:22 ↗ the word protect or preserve as opposed

33:25 ↗ to support um

33:27 ↗ certainly we want to recognize them but

33:29 ↗ then my mind thinks support has so many

33:32 ↗ meanings in terms of trees like are we

33:34 ↗ going to be propping them up with wood

33:36 ↗ or like

33:37 ↗ exactly um you know what ways are we

33:39 ↗ supporting them I guess uh an idea of

33:42 ↗ the Heritage tree is really for

33:43 ↗ preservation and protection and I

33:45 ↗ thought

33:49 ↗ anyways oh that's a good point yeah we

33:52 ↗ and we can look at those terms and look

33:54 ↗ at that and how we really want to

33:58 ↗ integrate that into into this park

34:00 ↗ system

34:02 ↗ plan I like that suggestion of swapping

34:05 ↗ out ra so you're saying Nicholas rather

34:07 ↗ than support let's use let's use

34:11 ↗ protect yeah the word preserve shows up

34:13 ↗ in that blurb to the left under goal e

34:16 ↗ environmental so protect seems less

34:19 ↗ repetitive but I think that that's kind

34:21 ↗ of this just the idea and it's just one

34:23 ↗ person's idea so other members might

34:25 ↗ feel differently

34:31 ↗ it just wasn't slide

34:34 ↗ different de

34:38 ↗ it okay yeah we've been looking at these

34:41 ↗ a lot this week and kind of regrafting

34:42 ↗ and and reviewing those with Valerie and

34:45 ↗ Stephen so but we're definitely open to

34:48 ↗ recommendations or if if we feel protect

34:51 ↗ is a better better word for that we can

34:55 ↗ switch that up

35:00 ↗ and keep in mind that these are for you

35:03 ↗ know as we're we're doing sort of Park

35:05 ↗ planning and and and our visioning um

35:08 ↗ there are already you know Heritage tree

35:11 ↗ protections within city code there's

35:13 ↗ also the Heritage tree program itself

35:15 ↗ that is getting its review that will

35:16 ↗ have the language um for protection as

35:19 ↗ well um so it it totally open to adding

35:24 ↗ that in here but I also wanted to make

35:26 ↗ sure that there's that extra context

35:27 ↗ that there are other places where that

35:29 ↗ language will and does

35:38 ↗ exist all right we we we'll keep looking

35:41 ↗ at that one

35:43 ↗ definitely take into account protection

35:46 ↗ oh jez

35:48 ↗ yeah okay any other ideas

35:53 ↗ or right okay go to the next next

36:02 ↗ slide all right gold G Partnerships so

36:06 ↗ our proposed addition for g12 is seek to

36:09 ↗ include native tribes as

36:11 ↗ intergovernmental Partners in park

36:12 ↗ maintenance programming and park Capital

36:15 ↗ initiatives and again it was our

36:17 ↗ discussion on on integrating native

36:20 ↗ tribes into the design process but also

36:23 ↗ as a as a partner as a long-term partner

36:25 ↗ which I think is critical and important

36:28 ↗ and ties back into our sustainability

36:30 ↗ and management of the system as as a

36:32 ↗ whole but in particular um tribal

36:39 ↗ land how's everyone feel about that one

36:43 ↗ Marlene I'm curious if you need the word

36:45 ↗ seek to that just softens it like you

36:48 ↗ don't have to do it should we just say

36:50 ↗ include say includ strike out great

36:55 ↗ suggestion

36:59 ↗ again that can be kind of pulled back

37:01 ↗ into our metrics also to see how

37:04 ↗ successful that

37:09 ↗ was s was for change get rid of

37:14 ↗ se2 just

37:19 ↗ includ all right uh next

37:23 ↗ slide I think this is our our final

37:26 ↗ Edition

37:28 ↗ um

37:30 ↗ implementation uh h8 Implement and and

37:34 ↗ evaluation tool to help determine

37:36 ↗ near-term and long long-term Park

37:38 ↗ project success so again that goes back

37:41 ↗ to the metrics that we need to develop

37:44 ↗ to um ensure that we're we're um hitting

37:50 ↗ successful

37:52 ↗ projects and making sure that they are

37:54 ↗ successful and meet the needs of the

37:56 ↗ community

37:57 ↗ and H9 Implement technology and programs

37:59 ↗ that assist in evaluating project

38:02 ↗ success and level of service and again

38:05 ↗ there are a lot of new technologies

38:06 ↗ coming online but I think GIS is um a

38:10 ↗ big topic right now and one we

38:12 ↗ definitely want to dive into in the

38:14 ↗ upcoming

38:18 ↗ years so any any comments or feedback on

38:21 ↗ those

38:23 ↗ two and of Hit the metric side hit the

38:26 ↗ technology

38:27 ↗ just a question level service means so

38:30 ↗ uh level of service is how we're

38:36 ↗ um oh je

38:39 ↗ sorry sorry the question was what is

38:42 ↗ level of service yeah yeah so um Park

38:47 ↗ systems are are asked to provide a um or

38:50 ↗ determine what the the the service level

38:53 ↗ is to the community um often and for for

38:57 ↗ decades level of service has been very

38:59 ↗ much just a a quantity based metric

39:02 ↗ meaning you know acres per 1,000 right

39:05 ↗ so how how many acres of Parkland do you

39:07 ↗ have per thousand residents

39:10 ↗ um I've been doing this way too long as

39:13 ↗ a park director but I love it I I've

39:15 ↗ seen in my in my 20 some years that that

39:18 ↗ quantity based metric doesn't

39:20 ↗ necessarily hold up

39:23 ↗ because City might have you know a right

39:26 ↗ number of Acres but it it doesn't speak

39:28 ↗ to anything of the quality of those

39:30 ↗ Acres how are those Acres performing and

39:32 ↗ so um level of service again a really

39:36 ↗ important metric uh we would like to get

39:38 ↗ a little bit more in fact a lot more

39:40 ↗ nuanced um in how we're determining the

39:43 ↗ level of service of isas Park system so

39:46 ↗ um hope that

39:55 ↗ helps great

39:57 ↗ any other feedback on that one that was

39:59 ↗ a good good question I do have actually

40:01 ↗ a print out that kind of walks you

40:03 ↗ through level of service and how that

40:05 ↗ was

40:06 ↗ evaluated

40:09 ↗ great okay next

40:14 ↗ slide all right so those are the

40:16 ↗ policies that that we've developed based

40:18 ↗ on the feedback we've heard so far um is

40:21 ↗ there anything you think that we missed

40:23 ↗ or that we should really reconsider or

40:26 ↗ add into and again we're we're going to

40:28 ↗ keep the former policies that we had in

40:31 ↗ the 2018 plan and just add these new

40:33 ↗ ones

40:38 ↗ in any more

40:41 ↗ discussion okay so

40:43 ↗ then the requested motion or the

40:47 ↗ appropriate motion at this point if

40:49 ↗ staff is to proceed would be that uh the

40:51 ↗ park board recommend moving forward with

40:55 ↗ the draft goals and policies into both

40:57 ↗ the comprehensive plan and park system

40:59 ↗ plan updates and this is understanding

41:02 ↗ that this is a a draft version and then

41:04 ↗ a final draft would be coming back to

41:06 ↗ the board in Q2 of 2024 so if someone if

41:11 ↗ people agree with that and someone would

41:12 ↗ like to make that motion like that

41:15 ↗ motion just like you said it okay we

41:17 ↗ have a second second okay uh so we'll

41:21 ↗ vote and because we have a few

41:24 ↗ absences uh both both of our alternates

41:27 ↗ Brad and Ryan who are present can vote

41:30 ↗ and so all those in favor of the motion

41:32 ↗ please say uh please raise your hand so

41:35 ↗ we'll

41:36 ↗ count this way so Asanti David Ryan

41:42 ↗ Brenda and I are all yes and then Zach

41:46 ↗ marleene and Nicholas are

41:50 ↗ yes

41:52 ↗ think oh Brad can't see Brad

41:59 ↗ somehow he got double

42:01 ↗ yes I

42:04 ↗ see so it sounds like unanimously you

42:08 ↗ all vote to move these forward into

42:11 ↗ their draft versions for both

42:14 ↗ plans excellent thank you

42:18 ↗ everyone Chris real quickly thank thank

42:20 ↗ thank you everybody um just a quick

42:23 ↗ thank you to to Robin and Valerie um and

42:26 ↗ just the discussion we've had these last

42:28 ↗ couple of months um the the the

42:30 ↗ intentionality of aligning the comp plan

42:32 ↗ work with this park system Plan update

42:34 ↗ this time around is going to be really

42:36 ↗ really helpful and so um again Valerie

42:39 ↗ thanks for joining um Stephen thanks for

42:41 ↗ joining as well um it's great to have

42:44 ↗ alignment with our our partners in

42:45 ↗ community Planning and

42:48 ↗ Development thank

42:51 ↗ you okay then the next item and I'm

42:53 ↗ going to read the um the agenda a little

42:57 ↗ more carefully this will be presented by

43:01 ↗ Brian this is H regarding the Julius BM

43:04 ↗ full feasibility

43:06 ↗ study thank you uh for those who don't

43:09 ↗ know me I'm Brian burnson on the

43:11 ↗ Recreation services manager for the

43:13 ↗ Parkson commun Services Department uh

43:15 ↗ here to talk to you tonight about the

43:16 ↗ pool feasibility study um really quickly

43:19 ↗ I thought I'd give you a quick history

43:21 ↗ lesson on our Julius bone pool there is

43:23 ↗ a little bit of a process there that uh

43:26 ↗ occurred over time I just thought really

43:27 ↗ quickly I'll run through that but I do

43:29 ↗ spend most of our time talking about the

43:31 ↗ pro visibility study um the julus bone

43:34 ↗ pool was built in 1972 under the King

43:36 ↗ County forward thrust program at the

43:40 ↗ time the population of isqua was

43:41 ↗ approximately 3,000 people uh King

43:44 ↗ County was the owner operator of the

43:45 ↗ facility at that

43:47 ↗ time um in 1994 through an agreement

43:50 ↗ with King County the city of isqua

43:52 ↗ assumed ownership and operation of the

43:54 ↗ Julie bone pool uh from the beginning

43:57 ↗ even when the city assumed operation at

43:59 ↗ that time there's been a demand for

44:00 ↗ additional water capacity and that's

44:03 ↗ continued to grow for the past 30 years

44:06 ↗ um in 2009 the city of isqua conducted a

44:08 ↗ pool feasibility study I believe that

44:10 ↗ document was mailed to some of you

44:12 ↗ earlier today it's it's a big document I

44:13 ↗ don't assume that you probably read

44:14 ↗ through it yet but it's uh a lot of good

44:16 ↗ information in there uh the study again

44:19 ↗ identified that there's a demonstrated

44:20 ↗ need for additional water capacity um

44:23 ↗ you know through that study we

44:24 ↗ identified uh six different different uh

44:26 ↗ options at the time there was two

44:28 ↗ preferred options uh that was you know

44:31 ↗ that they sort of later fed some of the

44:33 ↗ work that was done in

44:34 ↗ 2015 um which is my next topic too which

44:37 ↗ is 2013 City pass a park Bond and there

44:40 ↗ was $5 million at that time allocated to

44:42 ↗ the Julius bone pool um a lot of that um

44:47 ↗ a lot of the work that was done in

44:49 ↗ 2009 the items were that needed to be

44:51 ↗ worked on were actually done in 2015

44:55 ↗ which was great but once again that was

44:57 ↗ operationally that was to extend the

44:59 ↗ life of the facility that did not extend

45:02 ↗ or provide for additional water

45:04 ↗ capacity um in 2008

45:08 ↗ um and nine like I said yeah I already

45:10 ↗ covered that piece that the study

45:12 ↗ informed it and then in 2022 the city of

45:15 ↗ isqua applied for and received an

45:16 ↗ aquatic feasibility Grant from King

45:18 ↗ County Park so King County provided us

45:20 ↗ with a grant we applied for it and got

45:23 ↗ it awarded to us to conduct a

45:25 ↗ feasibility study on the Julius B pool

45:27 ↗ site um and then for a large part of

45:30 ↗ 2022 the city the steering committee

45:32 ↗ that was formed and our consultant NAC

45:35 ↗ architecture has been working on the

45:37 ↗ information being presented to you here

45:39 ↗ tonight uh some items of Interest I

45:41 ↗ wanted to share just before we get into

45:43 ↗ the actual discussion on the topic um

45:46 ↗ you know water capacity has been in high

45:48 ↗ demand ever since we've owned the pool

45:51 ↗ or the city's been an operational pool

45:52 ↗ we don't city owns the pool we manage

45:54 ↗ the facility

45:56 ↗ uh the amount of water available in 1972

45:59 ↗ is the same amount of water we have in

46:01 ↗ 2023 so the actual space we have is the

46:04 ↗ same as one it was constructed um since

46:07 ↗ the took City took over the operation of

46:08 ↗ julus bone pool um the cost recovery is

46:12 ↗ much stronger than it was at the time

46:13 ↗ that we took it over so um over time

46:16 ↗ we've continued to recover more and more

46:18 ↗ of the cost to operate that

46:20 ↗ facility um programmatically the city

46:23 ↗ runs a robust learn to swim program

46:26 ↗ Community programs open swim and water

46:29 ↗ safety training

46:30 ↗ programs um along with that we support

46:33 ↗ uh the aquatics facility supports three

46:35 ↗ High School swim teams and the isqua

46:38 ↗ swim

46:39 ↗ team the goal of the pool feasibility

46:41 ↗ study was to uh just a reminder was to

46:43 ↗ explore the feasibility of the cost

46:45 ↗ effective option for expanding capacity

46:47 ↗ on the existing site and to build on the

46:49 ↗ improvements that were made to the

46:51 ↗ facility in

46:53 ↗ 2015 um before we enter into anything I

46:55 ↗ want want to give a big hearty thank you

46:57 ↗ to our Consultants with n architecture

47:00 ↗ all the people that took part in this

47:02 ↗ because they spent a lot of time this

47:03 ↗ year discussing it and having you know

47:05 ↗ helping put together what's going to be

47:07 ↗ presented to you tonight so with that

47:09 ↗ I'm happy to turn the presentation over

47:11 ↗ to Brooke and uh Brian um with NAC

47:14 ↗ architecture who will introduce

47:16 ↗ themselves and also share the work that

47:17 ↗ we've done this

47:19 ↗ year thanks Brian I appreciate that H hi

47:22 ↗ everybody uh I'm Brooke and you can go

47:25 ↗ to the next slide if you want to and

47:28 ↗ you'll see our our lovely photos here

47:30 ↗ but uh I'm Brooke Hanley I'm an

47:32 ↗ architect and planner with na AC

47:34 ↗ architecture and um worked on multiple

47:37 ↗ feasibility studies here um and I let

47:40 ↗ Brian introduce himself my name is Brian

47:44 ↗ love I'm also an architect here with NAC

47:46 ↗ architecture at least my role in this

47:48 ↗ project was more as the design

47:51 ↗ lead go to the next slide see we have

47:54 ↗ other team members that joined us to add

47:56 ↗ their expertise for the study those were

47:58 ↗ Ryan Niner uh who was with watertech

48:01 ↗ Incorporated and he was our pool

48:03 ↗ specialist we also had Ken Ballard at

48:05 ↗ Ballard King Associates and he did the

48:07 ↗ demographic and market analysis as well

48:09 ↗ as the operational analysis um because

48:12 ↗ this study was uh very interested in

48:15 ↗ understanding what a feasible design

48:16 ↗ could be as well as the costs that could

48:19 ↗ arise from that design we did include

48:21 ↗ some other Consultants to be able to

48:23 ↗ understand aspects of the uh mitting and

48:26 ↗ design of the building and so we had a

48:27 ↗ civil consultant and then of course we

48:29 ↗ wanted to be realistic about numbers so

48:30 ↗ we did have an estimator join us as

48:34 ↗ well you can go on goad and go to the

48:37 ↗ next and we want to give a big thank you

48:40 ↗ uh to our steering committee who was um

48:42 ↗ put together by the city and parks and

48:44 ↗ wreck and so we had uh representatives

48:47 ↗ from Parks and recre parks and Community

48:49 ↗ Services um city of isqua planning

48:53 ↗ administrative Services isqua School SCH

48:55 ↗ District swim teams uh Etc so we had a

48:58 ↗ pretty good range of people uh giving us

49:01 ↗ input along the way as Brian said over

49:03 ↗ the last six months or

49:05 ↗ so next

49:09 ↗ slide uh just really quickly about the

49:11 ↗ feasibility process there are multiple

49:14 ↗ steps involved um all of these items

49:17 ↗ we'll talk a little bit about today and

49:19 ↗ we have a limited amount of time so uh

49:22 ↗ one way that we've basically

49:26 ↗ uh summarize all these things as into

49:28 ↗ three different tasks and so we'll go on

49:32 ↗ to the next slide and and jump into all

49:35 ↗ these items so our first task is really

49:38 ↗ understanding isqua water needs and the

49:40 ↗ project goals for expanding access to

49:44 ↗ water on the existing site next

49:48 ↗ slide and so um as Brian said early on

49:52 ↗ it's you've had the same amount of water

49:54 ↗ for the since 1970s and so uh how has

49:58 ↗ that changed based on the uh the primary

50:02 ↗ and secondary Market areas and so the

50:04 ↗ primary market area is the city of isqua

50:08 ↗ and then we've included the isqua school

50:10 ↗ district as the secondary Market

50:13 ↗ sector basically uh Ballard King goes

50:16 ↗ through the esri database and makes

50:20 ↗ these graphs and talks about the

50:22 ↗ population and the

50:24 ↗ demographics and all the key facts and

50:27 ↗ indicators that would tell you um you

50:31 ↗ know do you need you it basically

50:33 ↗ confirms that Isam needs needs more

50:35 ↗ water area to serve the population

50:37 ↗ that's grown next

50:41 ↗ slide this is just another graph of some

50:44 ↗ of those key facts which include um

50:47 ↗ demographics about education business

50:50 ↗ employment um income uh makeup of

50:54 ↗ households things like that and that all

50:56 ↗ factors into their final report um which

51:01 ↗ is many pages long and will be in our

51:03 ↗ final report uh if you would like to

51:05 ↗ read it next

51:10 ↗ slide and I feel like Brian just really

51:12 ↗ told the point so so well that there is

51:15 ↗ a really high demand for uh the existing

51:18 ↗ water area at the julus bone pool and I

51:20 ↗ think the reason for it is because you

51:22 ↗ have so many different programs that are

51:23 ↗ trying to compete for that space and

51:25 ↗ it's used by people across that

51:26 ↗ demographic range it's used by the very

51:28 ↗ young and the learn to swim programs

51:30 ↗ people engage in water safety programs

51:33 ↗ uh people in in school that are that are

51:35 ↗ in competitive swim teams and the people

51:37 ↗ that are Recreation swimming as they

51:38 ↗ enter later life um and so really it's

51:40 ↗ just how do you distribute a scarce

51:42 ↗ resource and there's so much competition

51:44 ↗ for it now there's a demand to be able

51:46 ↗ to increase the water area there's that

51:48 ↗ is supported by the market

51:50 ↗ analysis go and go on to the

51:54 ↗ next

51:56 ↗ and so the purpose of this feasibility

51:58 ↗ study was was targeted in that it looked

52:00 ↗ at well if there is going to be an

52:02 ↗ expansion how are we able to expand and

52:05 ↗ add on to the existing Julius bone pool

52:08 ↗ to be able to make the best use of that

52:10 ↗ resource and expand the water area of

52:13 ↗ that building um additionally with that

52:16 ↗ expansion the idea is to be able to

52:18 ↗ create this amenity that can continue to

52:20 ↗ serve all of those different programs

52:22 ↗ that are currently utilizing the

52:24 ↗ existing pool so it's not just for any

52:26 ↗ one specific purpose it's to be able to

52:28 ↗ use it for learn to swim water safety

52:30 ↗ for competition and

52:32 ↗ Recreation go and go on to the

52:35 ↗ next all right so that was our task

52:39 ↗ number one understanding all of that and

52:41 ↗ then moving on to task number two we did

52:44 ↗ an existing site assessment to um look

52:47 ↗ at the quality of the existing building

52:50 ↗ and really review the opportunities for

52:51 ↗ expansion on the site so you can move to

52:54 ↗ the next slide

52:56 ↗ um some of you are probably very

52:58 ↗ familiar with this building but um it's

53:00 ↗ it's actually in really good shape and

53:02 ↗ uh so we just we took a tour we had um

53:06 ↗ WTI evaluate all the existing pool

53:09 ↗ systems and um it's it's really in

53:12 ↗ pretty good shape for its age let going

53:14 ↗ to move on to the next

53:16 ↗ Slide the key points again it's in good

53:20 ↗ condition um there was some money spent

53:22 ↗ on it in 2015 that is really prolonged

53:25 ↗ the life of the pool there is um room on

53:29 ↗ the site for an ex a reasonably sized

53:33 ↗ expansion to the West uh and it's

53:36 ↗ relatively flat there so a new building

53:38 ↗ wouldn't be out of the question uh the

53:41 ↗ previous locker rooms were expanded and

53:44 ↗ will actually support most of the new

53:46 ↗ Plumbing fixture counts that are needed

53:49 ↗ uh with this new addition of

53:51 ↗ water the uh existing door opening which

53:54 ↗ you can actually we see in this photo

53:56 ↗ here it's yeah thank you it's covered

53:59 ↗ with an an Overhead Door uh could

54:01 ↗ actually be taken off and used as the

54:04 ↗ future connection to a new

54:07 ↗ addition uh one last item that we

54:09 ↗ discovered during the study was that

54:11 ↗ fire sprinklers will be required

54:13 ↗ throughout the facility including the

54:15 ↗ existing portion um based on rules that

54:19 ↗ are are adopted by the city so that is

54:22 ↗ all covered in our um eventual costess

54:25 ↗ estimates

54:28 ↗ next I'm going to go through the next

54:30 ↗ couple of slides pretty quickly and

54:32 ↗ really the point is just to underscore

54:34 ↗ some of the considerations that we had

54:36 ↗ when it came to thinking about the

54:38 ↗ design and the location for an expansion

54:40 ↗ onto the Julius bone pool because

54:42 ↗ there's there's already an existing

54:44 ↗ context around the Julius bone pool and

54:47 ↗ it would be irresponsible to not

54:48 ↗ acknowledge that and designed the

54:51 ↗ expansion in consideration of that so

54:53 ↗ you know an expansion off to the West

54:55 ↗ would be at that South Gateway into the

54:57 ↗ old town area we did look at a lot of

54:59 ↗ different places on the site where an

55:01 ↗ expansion could be and another area that

55:03 ↗ we did look at was along the east where

55:04 ↗ there's the reneer trail

55:06 ↗ Corridor we go to the

55:09 ↗ next there's also the existing buildings

55:12 ↗ that are around uh the the Julius Boone

55:15 ↗ pool site that would be looking at an

55:16 ↗ addition so we considered where open

55:18 ↗ spaces at and also the different uses

55:21 ↗ that are on the other side of the block

55:22 ↗ away from the pool go on to the next

55:27 ↗ and then this is showing really the

55:28 ↗ circulation of people arriving at the

55:31 ↗ Julius bone pool as well as people that

55:33 ↗ are using one of the other major

55:35 ↗ destinations around the pool which is

55:36 ↗ some of the schools in the area knowing

55:39 ↗ that there can be congestion that

55:40 ↗ happens at specific times of the day at

55:42 ↗ pick up and drop off and we wanted to

55:44 ↗ make sure that any addition to the

55:46 ↗ Julius bone pool would consider that and

55:48 ↗ think about how to add parking and where

55:50 ↗ parking could be used within that lower

55:52 ↗ rinear Trail Corridor area the next

55:57 ↗ so when it came to thinking about an

55:58 ↗ addition off to that West Side we were

56:00 ↗ thinking of well this does become pretty

56:02 ↗ visible from some of the Open Spaces

56:04 ↗ just off of the isqua Creek area as well

56:06 ↗ as that Gateway as we said into the

56:09 ↗ Oldtown area um and it becomes a place

56:12 ↗ that is accessible through that opening

56:14 ↗ that um that Brooke underscored so that

56:18 ↗ with that opening we be able to to use

56:20 ↗ the existing um entry area and the

56:22 ↗ locker rooms and that kind of sequence

56:24 ↗ of

56:25 ↗ through the pool area and then into the

56:27 ↗ addition without duplicating a lot of

56:29 ↗ unnecessary program we could really just

56:31 ↗ focus the study on and a new

56:34 ↗ pool good go to the

56:38 ↗ next and I I love this slide because to

56:40 ↗ me this is underscores how important

56:43 ↗ water is to the city of isqua because

56:44 ↗ it's not just something that ties the

56:46 ↗ community together through Recreation

56:49 ↗ through socialization through that you

56:50 ↗ know that Community Building seeing

56:52 ↗ youth participate in these events uh the

56:55 ↗ Julius bone pool is it's it's a say a

56:59 ↗ subtle monument in the downtown area you

57:01 ↗ see it from the commercial area through

57:03 ↗ the trees that kind of clarist story

57:05 ↗ those windows that you have that are

57:06 ↗ facing north along the pool and because

57:09 ↗ of the colors I think it really stands

57:10 ↗ out within the community and an addition

57:13 ↗ could be something that also looks back

57:15 ↗ under the Community and some of those

57:16 ↗ features in isqua that are um more

57:19 ↗ significant like for example as you see

57:21 ↗ on the bottom right you know the isqua

57:23 ↗ creek as well as the isqua s and

57:25 ↗ Hatchery go on to the

57:29 ↗ next so we did look at a couple

57:31 ↗ different options here early on in the

57:33 ↗ study to consider um what is the maximum

57:37 ↗ amount of water we could add and maybe

57:38 ↗ what's uh a little bit a smaller version

57:41 ↗ and so we have two here uh which

57:44 ↗ basically eight Lane 25 yard pools uh

57:48 ↗ the one on your left is just the eight

57:51 ↗ Lane 25 yard and it would uh create in

57:55 ↗ addition that's about 12 and a half

57:57 ↗ th000 Square ft and then the one on the

57:59 ↗ right is actually called a stretch pool

58:02 ↗ so it would have that additional water

58:04 ↗ to the north that could be shallow or

58:08 ↗ deep water um but it has a movable

58:10 ↗ bulkhead that could change the shape of

58:13 ↗ the pool for different programming uses

58:16 ↗ that does create a little bit larger

58:18 ↗ addition at almost 17 or a little over

58:20 ↗ 17 A5 thousand square F feet again this

58:23 ↗ is um attached

58:25 ↗ directly basically to the existing

58:27 ↗ building and so there's some

58:29 ↗ efficiencies there to be had with

58:31 ↗ circulation and moving back and forth

58:33 ↗ between the locker rooms um we can move

58:37 ↗ on to the next

58:39 ↗ one next so this slide shows what those

58:44 ↗ two uh building forms could look like

58:47 ↗ next to the existing building uh you can

58:49 ↗ see the the new building is sort of

58:51 ↗ there off to the right of the existing

58:53 ↗ and each each each option here and the

58:56 ↗ the Searing committee um gave us

58:58 ↗ feedback that they really felt like the

59:00 ↗ smaller version on the left was actually

59:04 ↗ more in keeping with the context and

59:06 ↗ with the site um as it is today versus

59:09 ↗ the larger one on the right

59:14 ↗ next a couple other options we looked at

59:17 ↗ were in in an effort to explore some

59:21 ↗ cost savings measures so uh we looked at

59:24 ↗ some alternative enclosures that could

59:27 ↗ be substituted for the traditional uh

59:30 ↗ CMU or concrete masonry unit

59:33 ↗ um e expansion that we showed in the

59:36 ↗ previous version so a couple of those

59:38 ↗ are the Dome structure which is actually

59:39 ↗ an operable it opens up in the

59:41 ↗ summertime to the sky which was an

59:44 ↗ intriguing idea um and then also this

59:48 ↗ sprung structure that's on the right

59:50 ↗ here is a a

59:52 ↗ tensile tent um with

59:55 ↗ essentially aluminum frame structure

59:57 ↗ it's a potentially a cheaper option but

1:00:00 ↗ maybe didn't have the desired aesthetic

1:00:03 ↗ that the group was looking for and so we

1:00:05 ↗ essentially uh went back and said you

1:00:09 ↗ know what are the costs of everything

1:00:10 ↗ which we'll get into in a minute um but

1:00:13 ↗ really the traditional construction type

1:00:16 ↗ was the preferred method and it just fit

1:00:19 ↗ in a little bit better with the existing

1:00:21 ↗ you can go to the next slide and we'll

1:00:23 ↗ take a look at that

1:00:26 ↗ yeah so here we have the on the left

1:00:29 ↗ hand side we have a more detailed floor

1:00:32 ↗ plan that captures some of the planning

1:00:34 ↗ from the stakeholder group and then off

1:00:36 ↗ to the right we have what that would

1:00:38 ↗ what that could I'll use that term what

1:00:40 ↗ that could look like um from uh that

1:00:43 ↗ Front Street area so uh what you have

1:00:46 ↗ off to the left is that as Brook had

1:00:48 ↗ commented on the eight Lane 25 yard pool

1:00:51 ↗ uh spectator area that could have

1:00:53 ↗ folding bleachers to provide a larger

1:00:55 ↗ deck area off to the right of the pool

1:00:58 ↗ um of course that larger deck area

1:00:59 ↗ behind the blocks on the north of the

1:01:02 ↗ top part of the pool as well as maybe

1:01:04 ↗ even the ability to expand outside since

1:01:07 ↗ you know during competitions I don't I

1:01:09 ↗ don't think it hurts to have a little

1:01:10 ↗ bit of extra room as people begin to

1:01:11 ↗ pile up and line up behind those blocks

1:01:14 ↗ and then the other areas that you're

1:01:15 ↗ seeing that have labels in them those

1:01:17 ↗ are a lot of the support areas that are

1:01:18 ↗ needed just for the operation of the

1:01:20 ↗ pool and the maintenance of the new

1:01:22 ↗ building um and then to the right again

1:01:25 ↗ what that could look like um something

1:01:27 ↗ that you will notice is a bit of a

1:01:29 ↗ difference from the existing building

1:01:31 ↗ although we have tried to keep the

1:01:34 ↗ spirit of the existing building the same

1:01:36 ↗ in terms of the like the overall outline

1:01:39 ↗ of the building so it doesn't look like

1:01:42 ↗ I don't know something alien is tacked

1:01:44 ↗ onto the side of the building um trying

1:01:46 ↗ to have a little bit more windows um

1:01:49 ↗ because we think that that connects

1:01:51 ↗ people inside the building more to the

1:01:52 ↗ natural environment I think that idea of

1:01:54 ↗ connecting people to the outdoors was

1:01:57 ↗ one of the reasons why the um

1:02:00 ↗ stakeholder committee was interested in

1:02:01 ↗ us studying that Dome option and that

1:02:04 ↗ sprung structure because those have the

1:02:06 ↗ ability to connect a lot more to the

1:02:08 ↗ outdoors go on to the

1:02:12 ↗ next and then here we are off to the

1:02:16 ↗ right is the existing Julius bone pool

1:02:18 ↗ and that main entry into uh the existing

1:02:22 ↗ building and what you're seeing in front

1:02:24 ↗ of view is um the addition the expansion

1:02:28 ↗ onto the Julius bone pool and maybe that

1:02:31 ↗ also has an exterior entry that could

1:02:33 ↗ just be used for spectators when there

1:02:35 ↗ are larger events at the pool otherwise

1:02:38 ↗ you would typically go through that

1:02:39 ↗ entry off to the

1:02:41 ↗ right go on to the

1:02:44 ↗ next and now we have just gone through

1:02:47 ↗ that event entry and we have arrived

1:02:48 ↗ inside of the pool and you're looking

1:02:50 ↗ across those eight Lanes through those

1:02:53 ↗ windows to connect you to the outdoors

1:02:56 ↗ to provide a lot of uh natural light

1:02:58 ↗ into the building that could still have

1:03:00 ↗ sun shades to prevent glare on the pool

1:03:03 ↗ surface you have some skylights above

1:03:06 ↗ you off to the right again to give that

1:03:07 ↗ sense of openness and connection to the

1:03:09 ↗ outdoors that'll make this feel like a

1:03:11 ↗ really welcoming place to recreate and

1:03:15 ↗ compete and uh the next view we're going

1:03:17 ↗ to look at we're actually going to go to

1:03:18 ↗ the other side of the pool and we're

1:03:20 ↗ going to look back at the way that we're

1:03:22 ↗ currently standing so if we go on to the

1:03:24 ↗ next

1:03:25 ↗ yep again we're looking now back to the

1:03:27 ↗ East and that area that has that kind of

1:03:31 ↗ salmon colored wall off to the left yes

1:03:35 ↗ exactly where the hand is at now that's

1:03:37 ↗ that um connection back into the Julius

1:03:40 ↗ bone pool that Brook it talked about

1:03:42 ↗ earlier so that's the way that those two

1:03:44 ↗ pools connect together and let you have

1:03:47 ↗ access from one into the

1:03:50 ↗ other we go on to the

1:03:53 ↗ next

1:03:55 ↗ all right so we wanted

1:03:57 ↗ to uh highlight some of the sustainable

1:04:00 ↗ and natural features of this project and

1:04:04 ↗ based on feedback from the steering

1:04:05 ↗ committee uh we highlighted these nine

1:04:10 ↗ items here and so you can take a look at

1:04:13 ↗ this diagram as as anyone would might um

1:04:17 ↗ excuse me as anyone who is uh looking

1:04:20 ↗ into this project could see the features

1:04:22 ↗ that are incorporated into the dis

1:04:24 ↗ design in a very easy to digest uh

1:04:28 ↗ way

1:04:31 ↗ next okay so we're on to the the third

1:04:34 ↗ task here and that's figuring out how

1:04:36 ↗ much the building and operating costs

1:04:38 ↗ would be and so we'll move on to the

1:04:40 ↗ next

1:04:42 ↗ slide um so we took all the options

1:04:45 ↗ including the alternative enclosures and

1:04:47 ↗ we ran those through our um cost

1:04:49 ↗ estimator who did a great job at uh

1:04:53 ↗ giving us pretty accurate cost and this

1:04:55 ↗ is the total project cost which includes

1:04:58 ↗ soft costs like design fee permits sales

1:05:01 ↗ tax uh and furniture and equipment and

1:05:05 ↗ so um for the the CMU building or the

1:05:07 ↗ more traditional uh design this would be

1:05:11 ↗ the cost for that and th it also

1:05:13 ↗ includes a little bit of escalation for

1:05:16 ↗ uh a couple of years um since this

1:05:19 ↗ project is not you know close to being

1:05:20 ↗ shovel ready at this point we wanted to

1:05:22 ↗ include some buffer to get you a little

1:05:25 ↗ bit closer to the

1:05:26 ↗ Future um the other two options that we

1:05:29 ↗ looked at were here and you can see that

1:05:31 ↗ the the D enclosure was actually a

1:05:33 ↗ little bit more than traditional

1:05:34 ↗ construction and the sprung structure

1:05:36 ↗ was a little bit less but not a not

1:05:39 ↗ enough to maybe um to sway the the

1:05:43 ↗ committee to think that that was a

1:05:44 ↗ better um aesthetic for the project

1:05:50 ↗ next um and then the final um business

1:05:53 ↗ and operations analysis was done by

1:05:55 ↗ Ballard

1:05:56 ↗ King and uh they worked with the city

1:05:59 ↗ staff to understand the existing

1:06:01 ↗ facilities operations and the future

1:06:05 ↗ operations assumptions were based on um

1:06:07 ↗ expanded operations potentially

1:06:09 ↗ happening sometime in 2026 or

1:06:11 ↗ later so um the business and operations

1:06:15 ↗ looks at the expenses versus the revenue

1:06:18 ↗ um from the added nitorum to the overall

1:06:21 ↗ facility and actually came up with a

1:06:23 ↗ pretty great cost recovery rate of about

1:06:26 ↗ 98% and you know that depends on the

1:06:30 ↗ programs that are offered and the and

1:06:31 ↗ the the cost of those programs for

1:06:34 ↗ participants um but at the current rates

1:06:37 ↗ this is a very good potential to add to

1:06:40 ↗ this

1:06:42 ↗ project

1:06:44 ↗ next and just a touch on the current

1:06:46 ↗ status of the report itself um a draft

1:06:49 ↗ report is in the hands of that

1:06:50 ↗ stakeholder committee that Brooke

1:06:52 ↗ introduced at the beginning of this

1:06:53 ↗ presid presentation and this group as

1:06:56 ↗ well this um board has been sent a copy

1:06:58 ↗ as well for consideration we're looking

1:06:59 ↗ for feedback to be able to incorporate

1:07:01 ↗ this into something that um can be

1:07:04 ↗ supported and that is final can be

1:07:06 ↗ published we go on to the

1:07:10 ↗ next with that in mind we will take your

1:07:13 ↗ questions and appreciate you uh

1:07:15 ↗ listening to our progress so far yes

1:07:20 ↗ Jeff just I just want to give a quick

1:07:24 ↗ thank you I'm getting choked up here uh

1:07:27 ↗ Brian and Brooke thank you for that

1:07:29 ↗ presentation uh Brian Bernson thanks for

1:07:32 ↗ again your leadership with the steering

1:07:34 ↗ uh committee group uh I just I I guess I

1:07:36 ↗ want to really emphasize with a fine

1:07:38 ↗ point parkboard uh this is just the

1:07:41 ↗ start of a conversation and as Brian

1:07:44 ↗ said um really the intent of this work

1:07:47 ↗ um was to build upon the 2009 study um

1:07:51 ↗ and also build upon the Investments that

1:07:53 ↗ were made with that 2013 Park Bond uh

1:07:56 ↗ those of you park board members that

1:07:58 ↗ were around might recall in late 2021 22

1:08:01 ↗ when we let you all know we were going

1:08:03 ↗ to apply for some uh King County Grant

1:08:05 ↗ funds to do this feasibility study uh we

1:08:08 ↗ really felt like we were at a point uh

1:08:11 ↗ that um with a a fourth potential High

1:08:13 ↗ School coming soon we didn't want to be

1:08:16 ↗ on our heels uh but we really wanted to

1:08:19 ↗ explore what is the a realistic

1:08:22 ↗ costeffective way to to even consider

1:08:25 ↗ expansion um um on the existing bone

1:08:29 ↗ site so uh this study is not intended to

1:08:32 ↗ be a recommendation it's really meant to

1:08:35 ↗ accomplish just This Is it feasible and

1:08:38 ↗ and I think what we'll see and look

1:08:39 ↗ forward to hearing your conversations

1:08:41 ↗ there is some feasibility and and now it

1:08:45 ↗ really um May head us into a a a a

1:08:48 ↗ further Direction in 2024 of how might

1:08:52 ↗ we financially U make something like

1:08:54 ↗ this happen um another quick note um and

1:08:57 ↗ why this conversation will be really

1:08:58 ↗ helpful tonight uh we'll be presenting

1:09:01 ↗ this to the uh city council committee

1:09:03 ↗ the park services and Safety Committee

1:09:05 ↗ um on December 11th um so really welcome

1:09:09 ↗ your thoughts feedback questions um I'll

1:09:12 ↗ hold there I do have a couple based on

1:09:15 ↗ Connie's public comment a couple

1:09:17 ↗ thoughts about uh funding strategy uh

1:09:20 ↗ some conversations that we've had uh

1:09:22 ↗ with King County over the not just years

1:09:24 ↗ but really decades that they uh sort of

1:09:27 ↗ um decided that pools were suddenly a

1:09:30 ↗ local service and not a regional service

1:09:32 ↗ but I'll I'll hold those thoughts for

1:09:34 ↗ after your

1:09:44 ↗ feedback so are you guys just uh

1:09:47 ↗ breaking down like the current Julie's b

1:09:50 ↗ as well as adding like another section

1:09:51 ↗ to it or just adding another section

1:09:53 ↗ already like on the

1:09:57 ↗ J it would be in addition to the

1:10:00 ↗ existing site so it would be a whole

1:10:01 ↗ another eight Lanes 25 yards added to

1:10:04 ↗ the west side of the facility would it

1:10:06 ↗ just be like those just those Lanes or I

1:10:10 ↗ know that the current Julie has like

1:10:12 ↗ they have those uh Lan and then they

1:10:14 ↗ have like a small other like tiny pool

1:10:16 ↗ would it be like a kind of

1:10:18 ↗ replic no it it's it's that but without

1:10:21 ↗ the extra little shallow that little uh

1:10:23 ↗ shallow with the bulkhead and the

1:10:24 ↗ shallow end it would just be currently

1:10:26 ↗ we have six Lanes the other would have

1:10:29 ↗ eight lanes and it just be eight Lanes

1:10:31 ↗ with no what they called that what you

1:10:33 ↗ call that uh Brook and extended stretch

1:10:36 ↗ Str Str we have a stretch P right six

1:10:39 ↗ Lanes with that uh extended area past

1:10:42 ↗ with the bulkhead in that little area

1:10:44 ↗ the new area will be eight Lanes with no

1:10:46 ↗ extended area really broad context

1:10:49 ↗ Brooke Brian does in essence this

1:10:51 ↗ proposed eight Lanes almost double the

1:10:53 ↗ water capacity um of the current six

1:10:56 ↗ lane pool so so this is a in essence

1:10:59 ↗ doubling of of

1:11:01 ↗ water right

1:11:05 ↗ exactly you want to get

1:11:09 ↗ Nas I see marleene then Nicholas and

1:11:12 ↗ then

1:11:15 ↗ Brad all right thanks you guys that was

1:11:18 ↗ a really um thorough presentation so I

1:11:20 ↗ really appreciate all the work that went

1:11:22 ↗ into the study I have a clarifying

1:11:24 ↗ questions and then maybe just some

1:11:26 ↗ things to think about my first one I

1:11:28 ↗ think it was said in the very beginning

1:11:30 ↗ there was like a quote about like

1:11:32 ↗ between 1974 until now we have not had

1:11:35 ↗ more water is that did I hear that

1:11:39 ↗ correctly like what was the stat there

1:11:42 ↗ because I feel like you know honestly

1:11:44 ↗ like leading with an infographic that's

1:11:45 ↗ like the population is x% bigger and the

1:11:48 ↗ water growth is

1:11:50 ↗ y% is you know like you kind of burying

1:11:53 ↗ the lead a little bit like that's a huge

1:11:56 ↗ like can you repeat to me what that fact

1:11:58 ↗ was I think that was Brian's intro yeah

1:12:02 ↗ yeah yeah no that was just just a

1:12:04 ↗ statement that the the water that the

1:12:06 ↗ water the pool that was built in

1:12:08 ↗ 1972 in essence is the same pool that we

1:12:10 ↗ have today yeah like honestly like I

1:12:13 ↗ don't think public I don't think the

1:12:14 ↗ public understands

1:12:16 ↗ that like what what did you say the

1:12:18 ↗ population was like 3,000 or something

1:12:20 ↗ crazy yeah approximately 3,000 when it

1:12:23 ↗ was built in

1:12:24 ↗ 1972 and what is the population now that

1:12:26 ↗ we're

1:12:28 ↗ quoting 40,000 40 40 40,000 41 somewhere

1:12:32 ↗ around there right

1:12:36 ↗ yeah when we think about funding and

1:12:38 ↗ like selling this maybe this is the

1:12:39 ↗ marketing coming out in me but it's like

1:12:42 ↗ you got to lead with stuff like that

1:12:44 ↗ like we're like when I moved here just

1:12:45 ↗ to give you guys context I was like

1:12:47 ↗ shocked at our pool amenities like

1:12:50 ↗ they're really sad and I'm really sad

1:12:53 ↗ that all we're saying we want to do is

1:12:55 ↗ add like six more

1:12:56 ↗ Lanes like I'll be honest it doesn't it

1:12:58 ↗ doesn't keep track with what I see

1:13:00 ↗ happening at least in other places in

1:13:02 ↗ the country I don't know enough about

1:13:03 ↗ the different places in Washington to

1:13:05 ↗ know if it holds but it's really poor

1:13:09 ↗ I'll I'll I'll respond to that maybe

1:13:11 ↗ after additional comments because there

1:13:13 ↗ really is some important context into

1:13:15 ↗ what's happened in this County and going

1:13:17 ↗ all the way back to the 70s 80s and then

1:13:20 ↗ 2003 with the county basically plopping

1:13:23 ↗ pools and cities feet so um I can give a

1:13:26 ↗ little bit more of that history as to

1:13:28 ↗ don't take it as like a blame on isqua

1:13:30 ↗ like I'm not trying to like beg on

1:13:32 ↗ anything that anybody's done it's just

1:13:34 ↗ it was very shocking to me to come here

1:13:36 ↗ and be like really this is what we've

1:13:38 ↗ got so um and again it's not a bag on

1:13:41 ↗ the community at all it's just more like

1:13:44 ↗ are we setting I guess when I when I

1:13:46 ↗ look at this I'm like are we setting our

1:13:47 ↗ sights big

1:13:49 ↗ enough I guess that's sort of like my

1:13:51 ↗ overarching feeling about this and I

1:13:53 ↗ know like we're you know kind of in a

1:13:55 ↗ recession maybe we are maybe we aren't

1:13:57 ↗ people can debate that uh money's tight

1:14:00 ↗ but man

1:14:02 ↗ like question all we're talking about

1:14:05 ↗ right now is lanes and I guess my the

1:14:07 ↗ thing for me about lanes and I get it

1:14:09 ↗ but a very I think a pretty small

1:14:11 ↗ proportion of our

1:14:13 ↗ population uses the lanes in comparison

1:14:15 ↗ to the other amenities around the parks

1:14:17 ↗ and maybe I'm wrong about that but I

1:14:18 ↗ would love to know the details around

1:14:20 ↗ that I'm really curious about like

1:14:23 ↗ you know we're taking out like sort of

1:14:25 ↗ that stretch that I'm guessing would be

1:14:26 ↗ for families to want to use and more

1:14:30 ↗ recreational I really liked that idea

1:14:32 ↗ about what was that outdoor structure

1:14:34 ↗ right like that has like you know I'd be

1:14:37 ↗ curious about why we made a decision

1:14:38 ↗ like not to recommend to have indoor

1:14:40 ↗ outdoor if that was a possibility um

1:14:43 ↗ there's just a lot of sort of left on

1:14:45 ↗ the table just to focus on what I would

1:14:47 ↗ call like lap swim here

1:14:50 ↗ versus I guess a real Community amenity

1:14:54 ↗ so I do want to address the depth of the

1:14:56 ↗ pool uh the existing pool at on on the

1:15:01 ↗ existing pool is about three and a half

1:15:02 ↗ feet deep in the shallow wind and this

1:15:04 ↗ pool could be um three and a half to

1:15:06 ↗ four feet deep on the shallow wind and

1:15:08 ↗ then it's currently programmed to go

1:15:10 ↗ down to about seven feet in the deep end

1:15:12 ↗ but that's the depth that's required for

1:15:14 ↗ starting

1:15:16 ↗ blocks so it's still familyfriendly on

1:15:19 ↗ the shallow wind

1:15:22 ↗ side but you know what I want

1:15:29 ↗ Jeff Splash just Zero

1:15:32 ↗ Entry you know the things that real

1:15:35 ↗ families

1:15:37 ↗ want like I said before this is not a

1:15:40 ↗ recommendation this is really saying

1:15:42 ↗ what

1:15:44 ↗ again as as a city as a department that

1:15:48 ↗ again is

1:15:49 ↗ is I don't feel like you're throwing

1:15:51 ↗ shade on us what we're we're in a county

1:15:53 ↗ we're in an area that the

1:15:55 ↗ aquatics it's an Aquatics conundrum

1:15:58 ↗ that's been in the making for 40 years

1:16:01 ↗ and rather than aspiring only to a new

1:16:06 ↗ facility that might cost us well would

1:16:09 ↗ cost us in in this day's dollars

1:16:11 ↗ assuming we have land and we're not

1:16:12 ↗ needing to buy it would cost us 5060

1:16:17 ↗ million um do we want to consider um or

1:16:21 ↗ at least understand what is what is the

1:16:24 ↗ most practical costeffective way we

1:16:26 ↗ might at least be able to to add water

1:16:30 ↗ understanding

1:16:31 ↗ how how much of a deficit we're in when

1:16:34 ↗ it comes to and how overprescribed we

1:16:36 ↗ are uh with that with that

1:16:38 ↗ pool yeah and please don't take like

1:16:41 ↗ what I'm saying as like any sort of

1:16:42 ↗ bague on the work the committee has done

1:16:44 ↗ like I think I want to you know if what

1:16:46 ↗ we can do is the six lane pool like I

1:16:48 ↗ get it like we all all got to work

1:16:49 ↗ within a budget and we've all got to

1:16:51 ↗ work it and I think anything we can get

1:16:53 ↗ for the community is amazing so I'm

1:16:54 ↗ excited about whatever we decide to do I

1:16:57 ↗ just I guess I'm just going to push us

1:16:58 ↗ to say like is there anything different

1:17:01 ↗ that we could think about or is there

1:17:03 ↗ any way to put anything that adds a that

1:17:05 ↗ increases the amount of people who would

1:17:08 ↗ use the pool Beyond just lap swimmers

1:17:12 ↗ yeah it's really really

1:17:19 ↗ good Nichol that answer your question

1:17:21 ↗ Mar are you pretty good

1:17:23 ↗ yeah I think but I'm just telling you

1:17:25 ↗ guys like you got a lead with

1:17:27 ↗ like that I was shocked to hear that

1:17:29 ↗ like that that and maybe I don't know

1:17:31 ↗ but like that that intro was like really

1:17:34 ↗ it's the same since the 1970s like most

1:17:37 ↗ of the people on this call probably

1:17:38 ↗ weren't even alive

1:17:42 ↗ then yeah and I will I will add to just

1:17:44 ↗ what Jeff was saying too that we from

1:17:46 ↗ our 2009 study you know that had six

1:17:49 ↗ different options some of those options

1:17:51 ↗ went up into like the 40 Mill millions

1:17:53 ↗ and I think the some of the options that

1:17:55 ↗ were chosen or preferred were very

1:17:57 ↗ expensive options that ended up being a

1:17:59 ↗ little cost prohibitive in moving

1:18:01 ↗ forward so that's where the practicality

1:18:02 ↗ and cost effectiveness of this model was

1:18:05 ↗ eight Lanes in the discussion with the

1:18:07 ↗ steering committee was eight Lanes can

1:18:09 ↗ be used yes for lap swimming it can used

1:18:11 ↗ for learn to swim lessons it can be used

1:18:13 ↗ for uh High School swim meets it could

1:18:16 ↗ be used for um isqua swim team swim

1:18:19 ↗ meets and it can also be used for um

1:18:21 ↗ special events because a lot planes can

1:18:23 ↗ be taken down and that that space can be

1:18:25 ↗ reconfigured so we saw it as the best

1:18:27 ↗ multi-use space for an

1:18:30 ↗ addition that would hopefully fall

1:18:32 ↗ within a realm of reasonable cost

1:18:37 ↗ Effectiveness

1:18:39 ↗ like I think it's exciting I'm thrilled

1:18:41 ↗ to death with it I would of course go

1:18:43 ↗ with the larger water space um because

1:18:46 ↗ I'm not paying for

1:18:48 ↗ it are we all are true H swim swim meats

1:18:53 ↗ are crazy as you of all people

1:18:56 ↗ know and I would like to see the walls

1:18:59 ↗ move movable so because the crowds get

1:19:01 ↗ insane and they want to go out and they

1:19:03 ↗ want to sit in the picnic areas and

1:19:04 ↗ while their kids aren't swimming and uh

1:19:07 ↗ I I saw you could had doors but do the

1:19:11 ↗ walls open and can people fall that

1:19:13 ↗ direction take it out so they they set

1:19:15 ↗ their picnics up and oh those to sort of

1:19:18 ↗ flow out into that that natural grass

1:19:21 ↗ area outside of see that being utilized

1:19:24 ↗ once again in concept right this is not

1:19:26 ↗ the definitive final it's just it's yes

1:19:28 ↗ it's feasible this is what it could look

1:19:30 ↗ like there's a long ways between what it

1:19:32 ↗ would actually end up being and really

1:19:35 ↗ really exciting you did talk about the

1:19:37 ↗ traffic flow around it and I thought

1:19:38 ↗ about parking because I don't know what

1:19:40 ↗ your population is now that come in

1:19:42 ↗ there I know it's full all the time but

1:19:44 ↗ are we doubling that and where are we

1:19:46 ↗ going to put all those cars and how are

1:19:48 ↗ we going to deal with all that and sure

1:19:51 ↗ the committee has looked into that

1:19:57 ↗ yep um we have

1:20:00 ↗ Nicholas couple people on online

1:20:06 ↗ waiting should I go yep go ahead

1:20:09 ↗ Nicholas okay um I appreciate this

1:20:13 ↗ conversation uh 1988 I had my third

1:20:16 ↗ third grade birthday party at this

1:20:18 ↗ swimming pool at bomes uh in 2020 my son

1:20:22 ↗ Maxim had his third grade birthday party

1:20:24 ↗ in the same water in Bones uh both my

1:20:27 ↗ sisters swam and died for Liberty High

1:20:29 ↗ School Swim Club at bones pool uh this

1:20:32 ↗ pool is a cultural icon uh I think we

1:20:35 ↗ said that in the presentation about you

1:20:38 ↗ can see it around the city is kind of

1:20:39 ↗ one of our high points right and it does

1:20:42 ↗ um attract some attention although I

1:20:43 ↗ don't know if people would know what it

1:20:45 ↗ is when they look at it it kind of looks

1:20:46 ↗ like a barn or something sitting up

1:20:48 ↗ there in the hanging up in the trees so

1:20:51 ↗ um this is a I'm excited that we're even

1:20:53 ↗ talking about this I had no idea this

1:20:55 ↗ was something that was on our purview uh

1:20:58 ↗ when I was on the Parkinson Trails

1:20:59 ↗ commission for the City of Redmond we

1:21:00 ↗ attempted this with knack's help nac's

1:21:03 ↗ help um or at least they were part of

1:21:04 ↗ the multi facility feasibility or

1:21:07 ↗ facility condition index

1:21:10 ↗ study um and what we try to do is wrap

1:21:12 ↗ the pool together with the community

1:21:15 ↗ center and the senior center Improvement

1:21:17 ↗ project was about a 100 million and you

1:21:20 ↗ know we were looking to do something

1:21:21 ↗ like they did up in Lynwood so if you

1:21:23 ↗ guys all want to go online and check out

1:21:25 ↗ you know what Lynwood did um to their

1:21:28 ↗ Aquatic and Community Center fitness

1:21:31 ↗ center was it's amazing right that's

1:21:32 ↗ what everybody wants but how you get you

1:21:35 ↗ know that kind of an investment

1:21:37 ↗ across the street from each other here

1:21:39 ↗ with the right kind of land and stuff I

1:21:41 ↗ have no idea um Redmond bid off more

1:21:44 ↗ than they could chew they had to

1:21:45 ↗ prioritize we only had so much Bond

1:21:47 ↗ capacity and so to your point uh we

1:21:50 ↗ started value engineering we back down

1:21:52 ↗ from the you know the Zero Entry kind of

1:21:55 ↗ you know all the niceties that you want

1:21:56 ↗ to have inside of a community amenity

1:21:58 ↗ and ended up with the Hartman pool just

1:22:00 ↗ getting uh that kind of lame renovation

1:22:02 ↗ that's currently actually underway right

1:22:04 ↗ now or just finished I think um like the

1:22:06 ↗ isqua pool did quite some time ago so it

1:22:09 ↗ looks like you get shiny tiles again uh

1:22:11 ↗ but no extra capacity no extra amenities

1:22:15 ↗ um so I just I think it's great is this

1:22:18 ↗ is a competitive uh or comparative

1:22:20 ↗ advantage for the city of isqua it's one

1:22:21 ↗ of those econom benefit measurement you

1:22:24 ↗ know that or benefit ads to the city

1:22:27 ↗ like we were talking about in the

1:22:28 ↗ Strategic uh plan uh so I just think

1:22:31 ↗ it's wonderful that we're talking about

1:22:33 ↗ it I would support a much higher Bond

1:22:36 ↗ personally for something of this

1:22:39 ↗ nature um because I do think it's

1:22:41 ↗ important that it grows U not only in

1:22:43 ↗ size but in its stature and

1:22:46 ↗ attraction um yeah so just good to see

1:22:48 ↗ everybody here again and what a surprise

1:22:50 ↗ glad I came tonight super

1:22:54 ↗ cool thank you that was

1:22:57 ↗ great did Brad have his hand raised Brad

1:23:01 ↗ go ahead I do Chris um so I do think

1:23:05 ↗ it's good for us to be talking about

1:23:06 ↗ this I guess I have a lot of thoughts

1:23:08 ↗ about it uh one is um you know since

1:23:11 ↗ we're really just kind of talking about

1:23:13 ↗ feasibility it seems like it'd be nice

1:23:15 ↗ to open up the box here to some other

1:23:17 ↗ Alternatives so that if this really does

1:23:20 ↗ come down to a ballot me or who knows

1:23:23 ↗ what you know the community can weigh in

1:23:25 ↗ on on maybe some other options than this

1:23:29 ↗ you know one of my concerns with this

1:23:31 ↗ particular area is is it's so congested

1:23:34 ↗ there and and by adding additional

1:23:37 ↗ capacity just adds that much more

1:23:40 ↗ traffic uh and our ability to control of

1:23:43 ↗ that I think is is limited um you know I

1:23:46 ↗ guess I you know kind of leaning in the

1:23:49 ↗ direction maybe of what Marlene was

1:23:51 ↗ talking about a little bit I mean I

1:23:52 ↗ think that the community really needs to

1:23:55 ↗ give some consideration to an aquatic

1:23:57 ↗ center and and and may be something that

1:24:01 ↗ would actually be done in phases so that

1:24:04 ↗ it wouldn't necessarily cost a fortune

1:24:06 ↗ up front but maybe have something

1:24:09 ↗ located in a place that is not as

1:24:11 ↗ congested maybe more easily accessible

1:24:14 ↗ maybe in central isqua figure in the

1:24:17 ↗ light rail system you know I mean

1:24:19 ↗ there's there's a lot of potential other

1:24:21 ↗ options in that ECT for how to get in

1:24:24 ↗ and out of it um but and maybe try and

1:24:27 ↗ keep the cost down initially in a phase

1:24:30 ↗ where you can actually add some capacity

1:24:32 ↗ but also add some ability for continued

1:24:36 ↗ growth this really ends the growth of

1:24:39 ↗ this location I just don't see how you

1:24:41 ↗ could you know 10 20 years down the road

1:24:44 ↗ add additional capacity whereas if you

1:24:46 ↗ go to something new uh where you do it

1:24:49 ↗ in phases that maybe you could actually

1:24:51 ↗ foresee you know a much larger Aquatic

1:24:54 ↗ Center potentially um 20 30 years down

1:24:58 ↗ the road and I think when you're talking

1:25:00 ↗ about something like this you really do

1:25:02 ↗ need to be talking long-term planning

1:25:06 ↗ and and to me this feels a little bit

1:25:08 ↗ like a shortterm capacity fix that that

1:25:13 ↗ put us puts us potentially in the same

1:25:15 ↗ bind 10 years from now uh or 15 or

1:25:19 ↗ whatever and and and I think if you look

1:25:21 ↗ further down the line

1:25:22 ↗ I mean then you kind of open up the box

1:25:24 ↗ about talking about some other

1:25:27 ↗ Alternatives so you know I I I I see

1:25:30 ↗ where this is headed and why you're

1:25:32 ↗ doing it but you know I I think it's

1:25:34 ↗ good to open up expand the brain a

1:25:36 ↗ little bit to to see what maybe some

1:25:38 ↗ other options are see what the

1:25:40 ↗ community's interest is even the

1:25:42 ↗ Regionals interest is for building

1:25:46 ↗ something you know maybe larger uh you

1:25:49 ↗ know with something that has even

1:25:51 ↗ something more Regional

1:25:53 ↗ draw and and this this doesn't really

1:25:57 ↗ provide that I think it's a short-term

1:25:59 ↗ fix my vision would be something more

1:26:02 ↗ long-term

1:26:04 ↗ consideration so that's my two

1:26:08 ↗ cents

1:26:12 ↗ thanks

1:26:15 ↗ now about

1:26:18 ↗ like exion of the pool so you said

1:26:20 ↗ there's going to be like eight Lanes

1:26:21 ↗ right um and you said it's also to be

1:26:23 ↗ used for like swim me Stu right

1:26:25 ↗ especially for like

1:26:27 ↗ these so um you know I'm obiously myself

1:26:30 ↗ I'm coming I'm coming straight from some

1:26:32 ↗ practice but um I know that at like at

1:26:36 ↗ swim we to get really really crowded

1:26:38 ↗ especially on the deck um and there's

1:26:40 ↗ not a lot of like you know like people

1:26:42 ↗ sit especially also on like dance as

1:26:44 ↗ well so I'm just wondering how much

1:26:46 ↗ space there's going to be like on Deck

1:26:47 ↗ you know just normally for people who

1:26:49 ↗ are using the pool

1:26:51 ↗ or

1:26:53 ↗ yeah if we want we could pull up that

1:26:55 ↗ slide really quickly uh s can you pull

1:26:58 ↗ up a picture of the overhead where we go

1:27:01 ↗ back back keep going back overhead yep

1:27:04 ↗ one more there you go there you go

1:27:06 ↗ that's perfect right there you see how

1:27:08 ↗ on the side on

1:27:10 ↗ the

1:27:14 ↗ F the one we created a larger deck space

1:27:18 ↗ because a swimmer at the pool I'm sure

1:27:19 ↗ you know that the deck space around the

1:27:20 ↗ existing pool is a little it's tight

1:27:23 ↗ right so we created a much larger deck

1:27:25 ↗ space here around the pool as best we

1:27:28 ↗ could with the constraints of the site

1:27:30 ↗ right and these bleachers here we've

1:27:32 ↗ talked about they could do so quite a

1:27:34 ↗ bit of seating here along this whole

1:27:35 ↗ wall here and not like in the other pool

1:27:39 ↗ where it's up above this will be at

1:27:41 ↗ ground level for meats and stuff Andor

1:27:43 ↗ for the you know participants and this

1:27:45 ↗ is that flowing out area where during

1:27:48 ↗ nicer weather people can just literally

1:27:50 ↗ go out and FL into that space where we

1:27:52 ↗ have grass in a little deck patio area

1:27:56 ↗ but then these bleachers could be

1:27:58 ↗ potentially retractable I mean once

1:28:00 ↗ again this is all just hypothetical

1:28:01 ↗ right now but the bleaches could be

1:28:04 ↗ retractable and create even more deck

1:28:06 ↗ space when you are training and

1:28:08 ↗ practicing you have more space to do

1:28:10 ↗ your land activities does that

1:28:18 ↗ help I don't

1:28:20 ↗ know so how does this impact the areas

1:28:24 ↗ for dressing rooms and bathrooms and

1:28:27 ↗ once we double the space how are you

1:28:28 ↗ going to handle everybody

1:28:30 ↗ inside great question because we do have

1:28:33 ↗ in when with our the renovation we did

1:28:35 ↗ in 2015 we actually increased a lot of

1:28:38 ↗ our restroom um in locker room capacity

1:28:42 ↗ so I believe Brooke we ran that I think

1:28:43 ↗ you mentioned that we covered that we

1:28:46 ↗ have capacity within the

1:28:48 ↗ existing uh lock

1:28:51 ↗ rooms

1:28:53 ↗ of the patronage right so we only had to

1:28:56 ↗ add I mean just if you're going with

1:28:58 ↗ basic Plumbing fixture requirements we

1:29:00 ↗ only needed to add the two small

1:29:02 ↗ restrooms that are on the north end of

1:29:04 ↗ this um image here in the in the orange

1:29:07 ↗ um to compensate for the the numbers

1:29:11 ↗ that we need um but the existing locker

1:29:14 ↗ rooms are very pretty generous actually

1:29:17 ↗ and there are already two family

1:29:18 ↗ changing rooms and staff locker rooms

1:29:20 ↗ and so um it's pretty good space in

1:29:23 ↗ there yeah for 2015 that one of the

1:29:26 ↗ things we did was expand the locker

1:29:28 ↗ rooms a little bit

1:29:31 ↗ so have

1:29:33 ↗ some questions and

1:29:35 ↗ comments uh real quick well I'll go with

1:29:38 ↗ comments first uh I agree with Marlene

1:29:41 ↗ uh I think we need to at least consider

1:29:44 ↗ bigger if we can um I liked you know

1:29:48 ↗ immediately my eyes went to the 25 yard

1:29:51 ↗ with the stretch

1:29:52 ↗ pool uh on that graphic right there that

1:29:55 ↗ dark gray area to the I guess it' be to

1:29:58 ↗ the north the uh outdoor area I think

1:30:01 ↗ that might be a great place to expand as

1:30:04 ↗ well to create some room for overflow or

1:30:09 ↗ staging you know if you have one age

1:30:12 ↗ group needs a place to hang out after

1:30:14 ↗ you know some some level of the

1:30:17 ↗ competition

1:30:19 ↗ um if possible

1:30:23 ↗ if you look at the the rendering there

1:30:25 ↗ that area is all in the

1:30:27 ↗ shade that's the north side of the

1:30:29 ↗ building maybe that doesn't matter in

1:30:32 ↗ the summer when the sun's going to be

1:30:35 ↗ more you know higher up and also to the

1:30:37 ↗ West in the afternoon but it might be

1:30:40 ↗ worth looking at that once we get into

1:30:42 ↗ more into design and then in the stretch

1:30:45 ↗ pool you know if that could be looked at

1:30:48 ↗ bulging that out to the North or the

1:30:50 ↗ area to the north to provide that um you

1:30:56 ↗ know what do you call it the Zero Entry

1:31:00 ↗ zero depth entry zero depth entry uh to

1:31:03 ↗ create more of like a family and play

1:31:04 ↗ area on the North while still

1:31:06 ↗ maintaining the competitive area to the

1:31:08 ↗ South I think I think I once learned

1:31:10 ↗ that the lap pools are the are the

1:31:12 ↗ costliest part of an aquatic center

1:31:15 ↗ because you get the

1:31:17 ↗ most the fewest users per volume of

1:31:20 ↗ water uh where like the family areas are

1:31:23 ↗ the ones that really draw the users I

1:31:24 ↗ don't know if that's correct anymore um

1:31:28 ↗ so those are just some thoughts but I

1:31:29 ↗ really think we Out Of Reach for a

1:31:31 ↗ bigger expansion if we can um and then

1:31:35 ↗ quick question on the cost

1:31:38 ↗ recovery uh metric that was provided so

1:31:41 ↗ the 98% total cost

1:31:44 ↗ recovery what what exactly is included

1:31:47 ↗ in

1:31:48 ↗ that is that annual operating cost

1:31:52 ↗ recovery I guess it's a little bit it

1:31:54 ↗ covers a lot but not all of the expenses

1:31:57 ↗ of facility right but that's Staffing

1:31:59 ↗ full time full-time part-time chemicals

1:32:03 ↗ uh heating all the electrical um

1:32:06 ↗ supplies it does not cover the actual

1:32:09 ↗ facility and we call this out in the

1:32:11 ↗ report but it doesn't cover the

1:32:12 ↗ facilities

1:32:13 ↗ maintenance part of it like when

1:32:16 ↗ facility workers actually come and work

1:32:17 ↗ in the facility it doesn't include you

1:32:20 ↗ know replacement cost come in the future

1:32:22 ↗ for larger items such as like your hbac

1:32:24 ↗ or any of those but in general it's

1:32:26 ↗ running us the same as we are running

1:32:27 ↗ right now it's like an operating cost

1:32:30 ↗ yes including the full-time and

1:32:32 ↗ part-time staff thanks that's that

1:32:35 ↗ that's what I was looking for

1:32:37 ↗ occasionally okay and I think I um

1:32:40 ↗ apologize we can't see everybody's who

1:32:42 ↗ raises their hand all the time so that's

1:32:44 ↗ why we keep saying I think it's this but

1:32:46 ↗ I I think I saw that Nicholas raised his

1:32:48 ↗ hand you asked my question and I

1:32:51 ↗ appreciate it and I was just trying to

1:32:53 ↗ ascertain the same bit of data so thank

1:32:56 ↗ you and then I see Andrew you've got

1:32:59 ↗ your hand up

1:33:01 ↗ too yeah I um it's maybe a little a

1:33:04 ↗ mixture of comment or and question it

1:33:07 ↗ it's just wasn't based on what the

1:33:10 ↗ previous study provided versus the study

1:33:13 ↗ today it wasn't just fully clear to me

1:33:16 ↗ what the difference is why we're doing

1:33:17 ↗ another visibility study um and maybe

1:33:22 ↗ that is just something that I missed um

1:33:25 ↗ I I completely resonate around the

1:33:28 ↗ messaging part about the ambition around

1:33:32 ↗ the um the phib ility study when I tried

1:33:37 ↗ um I tried both the pool in isqua and a

1:33:41 ↗ pool in in another city and my initial

1:33:46 ↗ reaction jokingly to the friend that I

1:33:48 ↗ went with was I thought my city is

1:33:51 ↗ richer than your city because their

1:33:54 ↗ their facility is really bigger and um

1:33:58 ↗ their their pricing structure as well is

1:34:00 ↗ more affordable um so that's one thing

1:34:03 ↗ that I was curious about if the um

1:34:07 ↗ recovery structure if if it looked at

1:34:10 ↗ the feasibility of updating the fee

1:34:13 ↗ structure or just maintaining it um

1:34:16 ↗ adjusting adjusting it with the with

1:34:18 ↗ inflation rate I also didn't see Market

1:34:22 ↗ analys they the study mentioned market

1:34:26 ↗ analysis but it didn't um tell me like

1:34:31 ↗ maybe not full competitive analysis but

1:34:34 ↗ just benchmarking with um standard

1:34:38 ↗ benchmarking with neighboring cities

1:34:40 ↗ like upon looking at the poll that I

1:34:42 ↗ tried it showed me that it's twice as

1:34:46 ↗ twice as much bigger than isqua and

1:34:50 ↗ population is twice as um bigger than

1:34:54 ↗ isqua and maybe that explains why they

1:34:57 ↗ have a bigger pool I think providing

1:35:00 ↗ context on what are what do um

1:35:04 ↗ neighboring cities that are as big as

1:35:07 ↗ isqua um have today and compare it or

1:35:11 ↗ how much we're improving can can kind of

1:35:13 ↗ maybe send a better message to our

1:35:16 ↗ constituents that um this is what we're

1:35:19 ↗ trying to aim for

1:35:22 ↗ um yeah those are just my

1:35:28 ↗ comments good

1:35:32 ↗ comments do appreciate that I I can

1:35:34 ↗ touch on your your first question of

1:35:36 ↗ sort of what why this feasibility study

1:35:39 ↗ what were we sort of doing different

1:35:41 ↗ with this one and piggybacking off of

1:35:44 ↗ 2009 again um this is not a feasibility

1:35:47 ↗ study looking or

1:35:50 ↗ exploring every option Under the Sun it

1:35:52 ↗ was really meant to say how can we do

1:35:56 ↗ our due diligence on our existing site

1:35:59 ↗ how can we provide the most

1:36:02 ↗ costeffective is it even possible to do

1:36:05 ↗ enough of a degree of expansion of water

1:36:08 ↗ on the existing site um and piggyback

1:36:11 ↗ off of the 2013 Park Bond Investments

1:36:14 ↗ that weren't done in 2009 right how do

1:36:16 ↗ we how do we leverage those and maybe um

1:36:20 ↗ at least sort of present as a baseline

1:36:23 ↗ here's here's a way or here's an option

1:36:26 ↗ we can consider um um to at least um

1:36:30 ↗ begin to address this uh pretty sizable

1:36:33 ↗ aquatic deficit that we have um and also

1:36:37 ↗ understand and I think as we get into

1:36:38 ↗ our Park system Plan update uh we have

1:36:40 ↗ many other deficits throughout our Park

1:36:42 ↗ system um in needs for acquisition and

1:36:45 ↗ Community parks and athletic fields Etc

1:36:47 ↗ and so how do we at least as a baseline

1:36:50 ↗ start to give ourselves some creative

1:36:53 ↗ options to consider

1:36:55 ↗ um

1:36:57 ↗ um as we try and balance all of these

1:37:00 ↗ investment needs that I think the

1:37:01 ↗ community is going to want across its

1:37:03 ↗ Parks and Recreation

1:37:14 ↗ system any other

1:37:16 ↗ comments just last thought to to add to

1:37:20 ↗ the loud voice that Brad Marlene and

1:37:23 ↗ Chris have said you know just thinking

1:37:25 ↗ more outside the box right I mean if

1:37:27 ↗ we're really looking at something not

1:37:30 ↗ for the just to come up to par but to

1:37:32 ↗ look at something that will last us

1:37:33 ↗ until 2060 right 40 years from now um

1:37:38 ↗ was there a consideration of potentially

1:37:40 ↗ even knocking down the current pool and

1:37:44 ↗ rebuilding the entire site because as

1:37:46 ↗ you saw from the schematic it's

1:37:47 ↗ literally right in the middle of a lot

1:37:49 ↗ plan right which is everyone knows it's

1:37:50 ↗ not the most we to build something um so

1:37:54 ↗ you know again thinking about that 40 50

1:37:55 ↗ year timeline and the cost difference I

1:37:58 ↗ obviously know it will be probably 6070

1:38:00 ↗ million at that point but now you really

1:38:03 ↗ have the Aquatic Facility that we're

1:38:04 ↗ talking about right and it would be I

1:38:07 ↗ don't know what it would be shutting

1:38:08 ↗ down for two or three years I mean you

1:38:11 ↗ know the Seattle Seahawks moved to Husky

1:38:12 ↗ Stadium for two two years right ear

1:38:15 ↗ 2,000 so that team is all about money

1:38:18 ↗ and so we're talking about Community

1:38:19 ↗ here and if we have to sacrifice those

1:38:21 ↗ two to three years to have something

1:38:22 ↗ truly beautiful for 50 that's something

1:38:25 ↗ that should be considered as well right

1:38:27 ↗ and answer your question no we didn't

1:38:28 ↗ consider that option it was like I said

1:38:30 ↗ just the basics of feasible to add more

1:38:33 ↗ capacity on that site which kind of

1:38:35 ↗ speaks to that but we didn't go into the

1:38:37 ↗ whole blown out version of what does it

1:38:39 ↗ look like if we were to knock it all

1:38:40 ↗ down and look could be

1:38:44 ↗ both yeah I think you know once we've

1:38:47 ↗ heard all your comments and thoughts I'd

1:38:48 ↗ love to talk a little bit about next

1:38:50 ↗ steps and maybe

1:38:51 ↗ uh again I think reconfirm sort of where

1:38:54 ↗ where we want this or or where we'd like

1:38:57 ↗ this conversation to springboard to

1:38:59 ↗ David and I I think that speaks to some

1:39:01 ↗ of your um some of those considerations

1:39:04 ↗ as well but I'll I'll hold off on that

1:39:06 ↗ until there's you you guys are

1:39:12 ↗ done I think we're done

1:39:15 ↗ [Music]

1:39:17 ↗ Marlene we can't see her so we don't

1:39:19 ↗ know all right go ahead Marlene oh sorry

1:39:23 ↗ and this might be to Jeff's comment

1:39:25 ↗ right like now I'm going to be totally

1:39:27 ↗ the person who's spending all the money

1:39:29 ↗ so sorry but sometimes at least in my

1:39:33 ↗ job there's like a short-term solution

1:39:34 ↗ and a longer term solution right so I

1:39:36 ↗ think Brad had thrown out like if we

1:39:38 ↗ were really going to build an aquatic

1:39:40 ↗ center where would we build it like I

1:39:42 ↗ think that's a really interesting I'd be

1:39:44 ↗ curious where Aquatic Center fits within

1:39:45 ↗ the Strategic plan because I just plain

1:39:47 ↗ don't know but in the short term it

1:39:49 ↗ seems like we have a real deficit from

1:39:50 ↗ the the 1970s and so my question is is

1:39:53 ↗ this really an either or situation or is

1:39:57 ↗ this like let's fix something for the

1:39:59 ↗ community that lives here now and start

1:40:02 ↗ a legacy for future generations with

1:40:05 ↗ something else so I just wanted to throw

1:40:07 ↗ that out there that I'm not sure like

1:40:09 ↗ don't take my comments as I don't think

1:40:12 ↗ we should do this because it's not

1:40:13 ↗ enough and we should wait for the big

1:40:14 ↗ thing I think I'm a little like is our

1:40:17 ↗ town going to be big

1:40:19 ↗ enough to have something that's really

1:40:21 ↗ focused on competitive swim at boom and

1:40:26 ↗ something that's really focused on

1:40:28 ↗ community somewhere else in the long

1:40:30 ↗ term rational swim somewhere else may

1:40:32 ↗ and so like I just don't want my

1:40:34 ↗ comments to be like I don't you know I

1:40:36 ↗ think there's obviously a huge deficit

1:40:38 ↗ that we need to solve for like right now

1:40:40 ↗ is my understanding I don't think that

1:40:42 ↗ needs

1:40:43 ↗ to I just don't think it needs to be in

1:40:45 ↗ either or at least at the discussion

1:40:49 ↗ level yeah no wor no worries about I I

1:40:51 ↗ I'm taking it as you this doing it's

1:40:53 ↗ doing what it was supposed to do it's

1:40:54 ↗ generating good conversation and opening

1:40:57 ↗ up this topic for discussion right which

1:40:59 ↗ is uh I think that's what we were

1:41:00 ↗ looking forward to begin with it's

1:41:02 ↗ healthy and there are I mean it's kind

1:41:04 ↗ of the study lets us know there are

1:41:07 ↗ options right and there's a lot of those

1:41:09 ↗ to be discussed and figured

1:41:19 ↗ out okay I don't see anyone else's hands

1:41:23 ↗ unless there's anyone in the

1:41:26 ↗ room I think we can say thank you so

1:41:30 ↗ much

1:41:32 ↗ NAC and thanks everyone for the great

1:41:35 ↗ discussion um back to you Chris to get

1:41:39 ↗ us to our next topic okay our next item

1:41:43 ↗ is the I think I see a hand from Jeff

1:41:46 ↗ trying to say

1:41:48 ↗ something no thank you for the

1:41:49 ↗ transition hisan the uh Brooke uh Brian

1:41:53 ↗ love thank you so much um I just wanted

1:41:55 ↗ to highlight again next steps super

1:41:57 ↗ super fast if I if I can um I think I

1:42:00 ↗ mentioned that um we'll have copies of

1:42:03 ↗ this draft plan you know Brian love

1:42:05 ↗ mentioned that as we're kind of taking

1:42:07 ↗ your thoughts and want to incorporate

1:42:09 ↗ that into the plan we'll make sure you

1:42:10 ↗ have copies of the draft plan as well as

1:42:13 ↗ copies of the 2009 study um December

1:42:16 ↗ 11th we will be having our first

1:42:19 ↗ conversation with City Council uh the

1:42:21 ↗ parks um Safety Services and Parks

1:42:25 ↗ committee um to again just present this

1:42:28 ↗ feasibility study um again not meant as

1:42:32 ↗ a recommendation I want to reiterate

1:42:34 ↗ that it's really meant to stoke

1:42:36 ↗ conversation and say all right you know

1:42:38 ↗ we are at deficit and and we I I love

1:42:42 ↗ the aspiration of this group but I have

1:42:44 ↗ to tell you I I don't think I'd be

1:42:46 ↗ booing my job as a Parks director if I

1:42:48 ↗ keep bringing towards you the community

1:42:51 ↗ every solution we have for deficits in

1:42:53 ↗ this park system is a $40 million $50

1:42:56 ↗ million Endeavor um we we're going to

1:42:59 ↗ need to to be aspirational but also

1:43:02 ↗ pragmatic and practical and so that's

1:43:04 ↗ the intent of this is to just say all

1:43:06 ↗ right here's at least a a pragmatic

1:43:08 ↗ approach Community what do we think um

1:43:11 ↗ Connie had a great question in her

1:43:13 ↗ public comment about uh funding um

1:43:17 ↗ whether it's this model or others that's

1:43:19 ↗ certainly something we're keeping very

1:43:21 ↗ close eye on um cities like isqua we're

1:43:24 ↗ not the only city in King County we're

1:43:26 ↗ we're sort of stuck trying to solve our

1:43:28 ↗ Aquatics problem because um King County

1:43:31 ↗ back in 2003 decided that this is you

1:43:33 ↗ know Aquatics is a local thing now um we

1:43:37 ↗ as cities have been pushing on King

1:43:38 ↗ County for a long long time uh there

1:43:41 ↗ currently is some grant funding

1:43:43 ↗ available to King County uh doesn't pay

1:43:45 ↗ for everything but uh a project like

1:43:48 ↗ this and why we went after this

1:43:49 ↗ feasibility Stu study projects such as

1:43:52 ↗ this where we're looking to expand or

1:43:54 ↗ build upon an an a forward thrust pool

1:43:58 ↗ um our candidates for up to $5 million

1:44:00 ↗ of of King County grant

1:44:02 ↗ funding um we've brought the school

1:44:04 ↗ district along as part of this

1:44:06 ↗ feasibility study so whether it's a

1:44:07 ↗ solution like this or any other solution

1:44:11 ↗ um lo and behold in a couple years if

1:44:13 ↗ and when they're adding a fourth high

1:44:14 ↗ school that will make eight so consider

1:44:17 ↗ boys and girls teams for each of those

1:44:18 ↗ high schools that will be eight teams

1:44:20 ↗ that uh will need uh pool facilities so

1:44:23 ↗ we very much want the school district to

1:44:25 ↗ be part of those

1:44:26 ↗ conversations um all that to say I I

1:44:29 ↗ think we're on the very front end of

1:44:31 ↗ what we hope is to some really

1:44:33 ↗ intentional not just wishful thinking

1:44:37 ↗ aspirational but let's be really

1:44:38 ↗ pragmatic and practical um and

1:44:41 ↗ aspirational as we really try and

1:44:43 ↗ address a a very significant Aquatics

1:44:46 ↗ deficit in this community so um thanks a

1:44:49 ↗ ton for all of your your thoughts and

1:44:51 ↗ comments this is this is going to be a

1:44:53 ↗ big one added to a bunch of other big

1:44:55 ↗ ones how do we do address athletic

1:44:57 ↗ fields how do we address community park

1:44:59 ↗ and neighborhood park deficits um how do

1:45:02 ↗ we I mean there's a lot of financial

1:45:05 ↗ realities that that I see that I I feel

1:45:07 ↗ like we as staff want to be really smart

1:45:11 ↗ in presenting options and realistic

1:45:14 ↗ options to um you all as residents um in

1:45:18 ↗ isqu thanks

1:45:24 ↗ okay with that we'll move on to the next

1:45:25 ↗ item which is economic development uh

1:45:28 ↗ action plan and that's going to be

1:45:30 ↗ presented by

1:45:41 ↗ Fel thank you can you hear me

1:45:43 ↗ all yes we

1:45:46 ↗ can well I promise I'm not going to take

1:45:49 ↗ a lot of time because I'll take like

1:45:51 ↗ less than even 10 minutes to go uh

1:45:54 ↗ quickly through uh through this isako

1:45:57 ↗ Economic Development action plan so

1:45:59 ↗ first of all I'll start by introducing

1:46:00 ↗ myself my name is farel oo I am one of

1:46:03 ↗ the economic development coordinator

1:46:05 ↗ with the city of

1:46:07 ↗ isak next slide

1:46:10 ↗ please so in in in summary uh Economic

1:46:14 ↗ Development was a new Department in 20

1:46:18 ↗ 2012 uh then created a strategic plan

1:46:22 ↗ with the newly created

1:46:24 ↗ EVC So the plan was to update the

1:46:27 ↗ Strategic plan after the Citywide

1:46:29 ↗ strategic plan was

1:46:31 ↗ completed uh also it's important to

1:46:33 ↗ mention a few changes to note since uh

1:46:36 ↗ the last plan so economic development

1:46:40 ↗ department now is a division within the

1:46:43 ↗ mayor's office staffed by three

1:46:47 ↗ staff and

1:46:48 ↗ Co covid and and pandemic changes to

1:46:52 ↗ Market haven't settled especially with

1:46:54 ↗ the office Market of course uh we are

1:46:57 ↗ working with economic Vitality

1:46:59 ↗ commission as our Advisory Group all

1:47:01 ↗ along the way next slide

1:47:06 ↗ please so in the in our plan we started

1:47:11 ↗ this plan in April whereby we uh

1:47:14 ↗ requested uh rfqs and we partner with uh

1:47:20 ↗ Community attributes to kind of help us

1:47:22 ↗ in developing this uh plan so why is it

1:47:26 ↗ important to do outrage to us and first

1:47:29 ↗ of all as I have mentioned we hired a

1:47:31 ↗ consultant to allow businesses and other

1:47:34 ↗ interested parties to be honest in their

1:47:37 ↗ feedback because we feel like if we

1:47:38 ↗ approach these businesses some of them

1:47:41 ↗ they want to be honest with us so we

1:47:42 ↗ kind of give it to our community

1:47:45 ↗ attributes uh uh consultant to kind of

1:47:48 ↗ lead that uh uh uh interviews and focus

1:47:52 ↗ groups of course overall the top

1:47:56 ↗ concerns were related to Workforce space

1:47:59 ↗ and when I talk about space I'm talking

1:48:02 ↗ about space in terms of

1:48:03 ↗ affordability

1:48:05 ↗ accessibility and uh availability and of

1:48:09 ↗ course another issue that come up was

1:48:11 ↗ affordable housing and what we did is we

1:48:15 ↗ did a survey that is business survey and

1:48:18 ↗ residential survey within the community

1:48:20 ↗ and of course the city Department as I

1:48:22 ↗ mentioned we are Department of three uh

1:48:24 ↗ we did office hours within different uh

1:48:27 ↗ section of the community one we did in

1:48:29 ↗ the highlands uh

1:48:32 ↗ downtown uh and we were strategically

1:48:34 ↗ located within the uh community and of

1:48:37 ↗ course we also did uh boards and

1:48:39 ↗ commission Outreach whereby we went to

1:48:42 ↗ different boards and kind of present uh

1:48:45 ↗ what we were anticipated of doing next

1:48:47 ↗ slide

1:48:49 ↗ please

1:48:51 ↗ so in in the next slide I'm uh I'm going

1:48:54 ↗ to mention about vision and mission

1:48:55 ↗ statement and again mission is important

1:48:58 ↗ to highlight that our regular work will

1:49:01 ↗ continue but that is in the next three

1:49:04 ↗ years we are going to focus on new

1:49:06 ↗ efforts on one outdoor two creative

1:49:10 ↗ economy and three homebased businesses

1:49:13 ↗ so our vision is isak's distinct

1:49:16 ↗ historic charm and modern amenities for

1:49:20 ↗ an inclusive and dynamic place to

1:49:23 ↗ successfully grow businesses in the Pu

1:49:27 ↗ sound

1:49:28 ↗ region and we also develop our mission

1:49:31 ↗ while attracting and supporting

1:49:33 ↗ businesses in isaka across all

1:49:35 ↗ Industries the next three year will be a

1:49:39 ↗ deliberate Focus to grow the presence of

1:49:43 ↗ Auto

1:49:44 ↗ Recreation creative economy and

1:49:47 ↗ homebased businesses that align and and

1:49:50 ↗ enhances our city distinct identity so

1:49:53 ↗ this our mission and and vision next

1:49:56 ↗ slide

1:50:01 ↗ please so within this plan we came we

1:50:05 ↗ came we came up with three themes and we

1:50:07 ↗ had theme one that is access to

1:50:11 ↗ opportunity so isaka desires to serve

1:50:15 ↗ all local businesses and in doing so

1:50:19 ↗ reverse his roric systemic pattern and

1:50:23 ↗ in Equitable access to Economic

1:50:25 ↗ Opportunity one way to do so is by uh

1:50:29 ↗ improving city services and systems that

1:50:32 ↗ connect businesses and entrepreneurs to

1:50:35 ↗ knowledge and resources to succeed so

1:50:38 ↗ the goal is to make uh this entrepreneur

1:50:40 ↗ succeed in isaa another is by improving

1:50:44 ↗ uh the policy and Regulatory

1:50:47 ↗ environmental in which businesses

1:50:49 ↗ operate uh within uh the jurisdiction of

1:50:52 ↗ isaka and the next theme that we came up

1:50:55 ↗ with uh was convene and

1:50:58 ↗ catalyze so the city of isaka Works to

1:51:01 ↗ align local and Regional effort of

1:51:05 ↗ various City departments partners and

1:51:09 ↗ agencies and to create a durable

1:51:12 ↗ Coalition and partnership to enact

1:51:15 ↗ program policies and projects so these

1:51:18 ↗ efforts will redu will will produce

1:51:21 ↗ diverse sustainable and Equitable

1:51:25 ↗ Economic Development with the city

1:51:28 ↗ acting as a convenor and a

1:51:32 ↗ facilitator then theme three where we

1:51:34 ↗ want to focus uh with uh the park board

1:51:37 ↗ and the park uh team is leveraging isaka

1:51:42 ↗ assets so we all know that isaa is a

1:51:44 ↗ home to numerous thriving Industries and

1:51:48 ↗ sectors that contribute jobs

1:51:51 ↗ revenues and a high quality of life to

1:51:53 ↗ the city and its residents workers and

1:51:57 ↗ visitors so three sectors in particular

1:52:01 ↗ that is the Outdoor Rec uh creative

1:52:04 ↗ Industries and home based businesses

1:52:07 ↗ align with and reflect isaka unique

1:52:10 ↗ sense of place

1:52:13 ↗ opportunities Trend and can provide

1:52:16 ↗ quality opportunities for jobs and

1:52:18 ↗ Entrepreneurship and that's why we want

1:52:20 ↗ to focus on how do we now build uh the

1:52:23 ↗ business ecosystem how do we reinforce

1:52:26 ↗ isaka

1:52:27 ↗ identity next slide

1:52:35 ↗ please so the next I'm not going to dive

1:52:38 ↗ much into into the discussion per se but

1:52:41 ↗ I I will encourage Asanti to share my

1:52:44 ↗ email uh with the park team and to kind

1:52:48 ↗ of in the the theme three we'll share

1:52:51 ↗ these slides with you guys and if if you

1:52:55 ↗ feel like there's a theme that we need

1:52:57 ↗ to prioritize kind of just shoot me an

1:52:59 ↗ email instead of now discussing these

1:53:01 ↗ themes one by one but I'll go really

1:53:04 ↗ quick through this slide so at the core

1:53:06 ↗ of our work in economic development is

1:53:08 ↗ supporting our local businesses so the

1:53:12 ↗ idea is we want to welcome tourist into

1:53:14 ↗ our outdoor spaces but also we want to

1:53:17 ↗ ensure that our community benefit from

1:53:19 ↗ their

1:53:20 ↗ visitation so many of the actions in the

1:53:23 ↗ metrics consider broadening outdoor

1:53:26 ↗ recreation customers base but you will

1:53:29 ↗ notice that we are also focusing on

1:53:31 ↗ serving our businesses our local

1:53:33 ↗ businesses so as we engage with ar

1:53:36 ↗ Recreation organization in our Economic

1:53:39 ↗ Development action plan Outreach we

1:53:42 ↗ heard from BRS organization mountain

1:53:45 ↗ bike organization and several Seattle

1:53:48 ↗ based nonprofit who work on expanding

1:53:51 ↗ access to outdoor to diverse Community

1:53:55 ↗ what what other Recreation types

1:53:58 ↗ specifically outdoor recation business

1:54:00 ↗ type should we explore and that's is a

1:54:02 ↗ question to you guys and another another

1:54:05 ↗ thing is a short list of potential

1:54:06 ↗ Partners who we have engaged with uh

1:54:10 ↗ include uh Partners like isaka Alps tra

1:54:13 ↗ club uh the

1:54:15 ↗ Mountaineers young women

1:54:18 ↗ empowered and Evergreen mountain

1:54:21 ↗ bike uh Washington Trail

1:54:25 ↗ Association sa Snow kuami Valley

1:54:28 ↗ Mountain to sound Greenway then who else

1:54:32 ↗ should we consider so those are the part

1:54:34 ↗ of the question that we are trying to uh

1:54:36 ↗ uh to gaug uh with you guys like within

1:54:40 ↗ this uh action items which one do we

1:54:43 ↗ need to

1:54:44 ↗ prioritize there are action already that

1:54:46 ↗ are happening and we can leverage our

1:54:49 ↗ efforts together together to kind of

1:54:51 ↗ work together towards a common achieving

1:54:53 ↗ a common agenda then of course we want

1:54:55 ↗ also to part partner interest in action

1:54:58 ↗ so in this action maybe as parks and

1:55:00 ↗ board you will come within an action and

1:55:02 ↗ say oh we feel like we need to partner

1:55:04 ↗ with economic development towards uh

1:55:07 ↗ driving this uh action next slide

1:55:12 ↗ please so the last two are now where we

1:55:16 ↗ want to uh partner and f as sense of

1:55:20 ↗ according to you par board which actions

1:55:24 ↗ do you feel like we need to prioritize

1:55:27 ↗ which actions here do you feel like we

1:55:29 ↗ can now work together collaborate and

1:55:32 ↗ kind of amplify it and if you look at

1:55:35 ↗ here Goan uh building the business

1:55:39 ↗ ecosystem in the outdoor recreation

1:55:42 ↗ industry so the first one we are

1:55:44 ↗ expanding identify existing and

1:55:46 ↗ potential business needs through

1:55:48 ↗ continued Outreach then the rest ones

1:55:50 ↗ are just new efforts that we've come

1:55:53 ↗ with uh the next slide

1:55:57 ↗ please the next strategy was here is

1:56:00 ↗ also to reinforce isako identity as I

1:56:02 ↗ mentioned our our identity what is our

1:56:04 ↗ identity what do we stand out as isapur

1:56:07 ↗ and kind of this one are all new efforts

1:56:11 ↗ uh that we are trying to uh to propos in

1:56:13 ↗ our strategic plan so we have four new

1:56:17 ↗ efforts and again encourage you to look

1:56:20 ↗ at this efforts and if you find there's

1:56:23 ↗ one that we can partner or if you see

1:56:25 ↗ that there's one we need to really

1:56:27 ↗ really prioritize kind of let us know

1:56:29 ↗ the next slide

1:56:32 ↗ please so here is our next steps

1:56:35 ↗ incorporate feedback into action plan

1:56:36 ↗ the feedback that I'm trying to get from

1:56:38 ↗ you guys like from our action plan which

1:56:41 ↗ one do you feel like we need to Prior

1:56:42 ↗ prioritize which one do you feel like

1:56:44 ↗ the parts and economic development can

1:56:47 ↗ part partner together and kind of work

1:56:49 ↗ towards it then of course we are doing

1:56:52 ↗ presentation to PS Equity ATS board and

1:56:55 ↗ commission we kind of want also to give

1:56:57 ↗ them feedback what we get what we got

1:56:59 ↗ from the ground and also we did office

1:57:02 ↗ hour at co-working event we kind of

1:57:04 ↗ invite we invited uh some of these

1:57:07 ↗ stakeholders to kind of give them uh

1:57:09 ↗ what we've analyzed and what we've come

1:57:11 ↗ with then finalize full Economic

1:57:14 ↗ Development action plan uh sometimes

1:57:16 ↗ next month uh then of course City

1:57:18 ↗ Council

1:57:20 ↗ presentation uh in

1:57:22 ↗ January I don't think I have a next

1:57:26 ↗ slide no that's all of them yes so that

1:57:29 ↗ is the end of my presentation and I will

1:57:32 ↗ let Asanti to share my email with you

1:57:34 ↗ guys and kind of go through those action

1:57:37 ↗ that I've shared with you if you feel

1:57:38 ↗ there's action that we need to really

1:57:40 ↗ really really prioritize just let me

1:57:42 ↗ know if you feel there's those action

1:57:44 ↗ that we need to partner together and

1:57:46 ↗ kind of work towards it also let us know

1:57:49 ↗ thank you so much for giving us time to

1:57:51 ↗ come and present this uh Economic

1:57:53 ↗ Development action plan to your board

1:57:56 ↗ thank

1:58:01 ↗ you any

1:58:05 ↗ comments any I can't tell if any hands

1:58:07 ↗ are raised s let me know I I don't see

1:58:11 ↗ any hands raised currently um but yeah

1:58:15 ↗ please take the time to review the the

1:58:19 ↗ items that Fel sent over I will make

1:58:22 ↗ sure that you all have his email address

1:58:25 ↗ and the contacts for our other Economic

1:58:27 ↗ Development colleagues um and you all

1:58:30 ↗ can continue to give them your

1:58:34 ↗ feedback I see Nicholas has his hand up

1:58:37 ↗ of course this is going to get really

1:58:39 ↗ old because we're about to end on time

1:58:41 ↗ but um my mind just thinks about pool

1:58:44 ↗ Bond investment and economic stimulus

1:58:47 ↗ for the city and for the kind of

1:58:50 ↗ community that we are building here so I

1:58:53 ↗ think it's an important overlap and kind

1:58:54 ↗ of a timely presentation and I just

1:58:57 ↗ wanted to thank you for your service and

1:58:59 ↗ your

1:59:00 ↗ presentation thank

1:59:04 ↗ you okay thank you

1:59:09 ↗ forel I guess with that we'll move on

1:59:12 ↗ to our next uh item which is

1:59:16 ↗ reports um can

1:59:19 ↗ start with we have mine listed as first

1:59:23 ↗ and I will do it very quick because we

1:59:24 ↗ are at

1:59:26 ↗ 8:59 uh I'm going to instead of listing

1:59:28 ↗ all these items I'm going to encourage

1:59:30 ↗ you all to regularly check the ESAT Alps

1:59:32 ↗ and trails club uh events calendar and

1:59:35 ↗ the friends Lakes man State Park uh they

1:59:38 ↗ have a whole bunch of a whole variety of

1:59:40 ↗ items there's a there's some restoration

1:59:42 ↗ work parties if you're interested in

1:59:43 ↗ that there's a forest carbon credit

1:59:46 ↗ informational hike um there's a painting

1:59:49 ↗ in the Park event at Le man State Park

1:59:52 ↗ and then there's a Polar Plunge on

1:59:54 ↗ January 1st so whole host of events that

1:59:57 ↗ are fun uh or interesting and please

2:00:00 ↗ check them

2:00:01 ↗ out uh and after that we'll switch over

2:00:04 ↗ to the youth representative report we're

2:00:07 ↗ really happy to have you

2:00:09 ↗ here

2:00:16 ↗ so this Friday at d

2:00:20 ↗ so

2:00:26 ↗ just but we had like a little bit is a

2:00:29 ↗ career Affair basically what happens

2:00:31 ↗ there is that you know it's targeted

2:00:32 ↗ toward work middle and high school

2:00:33 ↗ students and they you know they get

2:00:35 ↗ exposures to all different types of like

2:00:37 ↗ firefighters you know police officers

2:00:40 ↗ that are not in

2:00:43 ↗ like know

2:00:48 ↗ they have been our main two

2:00:52 ↗ events that's about

2:00:53 ↗ it great thank you so much for coming

2:00:57 ↗ too I think we all enjoy having your you

2:01:01 ↗ here uh okay Jeff director's

2:01:05 ↗ report ah boy thank you for the

2:01:07 ↗ discussion tonight two really fast items

2:01:10 ↗ uh seeing it we're at 9:01 um Park

2:01:13 ↗ system Plan update if you remember we

2:01:14 ↗ had the survey out and hit the streets

2:01:17 ↗ uh we had we just one short of 750 we

2:01:20 ↗ had

2:01:21 ↗ 749 uh survey responses so we're really

2:01:24 ↗ excited to start diving into those

2:01:27 ↗ responses um our partners at design

2:01:29 ↗ Workshop are sort of presting are

2:01:33 ↗ providing us sort of the raw data from

2:01:34 ↗ that we'll be sending that all out all

2:01:36 ↗ to you to to take a look at um one quick

2:01:39 ↗ note uh we had some asked some really

2:01:41 ↗ key demographic questions in terms of

2:01:43 ↗ what neighborhood or part of the city um

2:01:46 ↗ folks uh resided in we feel like we got

2:01:49 ↗ a really good representation of uh the

2:01:51 ↗ full City we also feel like um most of

2:01:55 ↗ our responses are isqua residents so

2:01:57 ↗ about 80 I was just looking at the

2:01:59 ↗ numbers forgive me

2:02:03 ↗ 83% of those 749 responses were isqua

2:02:06 ↗ residents um and 177% were non isqua

2:02:10 ↗ residents so probably a good reflection

2:02:12 ↗ of how our parks are are used so it's

2:02:15 ↗ going to be really helpful information

2:02:16 ↗ in the coming months as we start diving

2:02:18 ↗ into the parks system plan and hearing

2:02:20 ↗ and understanding the bread of

2:02:22 ↗ priorities that our our residents have

2:02:25 ↗ um last Quick item I have just a

2:02:27 ↗ reminder um with December holiday um

2:02:31 ↗ holidays coming up we won't be having a

2:02:33 ↗ park board meeting um that's not to say

2:02:36 ↗ though that uh we as staff will will be

2:02:38 ↗ meeting with Chris and marleene as we're

2:02:41 ↗ pulling together um based upon the 2024

2:02:44 ↗ budget and some of the Amendments that

2:02:46 ↗ that Council just adopted last week

2:02:48 ↗ we're putting together there are 2024

2:02:50 ↗ Department work plans we'll be working

2:02:52 ↗ in December with Chris and marleene and

2:02:55 ↗ begin to map out a work plan for

2:02:57 ↗ parkboard um so that um as we come to

2:03:00 ↗ the January parkboard meeting we'll um

2:03:03 ↗ really have a a good look at uh work

2:03:06 ↗ plan items um in

2:03:08 ↗ 2024 it will not be a boring year uh

2:03:11 ↗ we'll have more uh more exciting

2:03:13 ↗ discussions to to be

2:03:16 ↗ had thanks

2:03:17 ↗ all

2:03:20 ↗ okay uh anyone else have any other

2:03:24 ↗ business everybody's eager to get get

2:03:26 ↗ out the door on time or close to okay uh

2:03:30 ↗ real quick so then just to recap U you

2:03:33 ↗ know forel's presentation on economic

2:03:35 ↗ development got truncated a little bit

2:03:37 ↗ so please uh review the email and

2:03:41 ↗ provide him feedback that way and then

2:03:44 ↗ uh you'll notice at the end of the

2:03:45 ↗ packet that Asanti included the ongoing

2:03:48 ↗ calendar please take a look at

2:03:50 ↗ that and if there is nothing else then I

2:03:54 ↗ will adjourn the

2:03:57 ↗ meeting thank you everybody we'll see

2:04:00 ↗ you all in the new year January 22nd

2:04:03 ↗ will be our next

2:04:08 ↗ meeting

2:04:13 ↗ thanks

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