Park Board

Monday, November 27, 2023

7:00 PM · 2h 4m

Topics tracked across meetings:

Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update AB 8796 ›››››››››››››››››› 11/19

Planning Policy Commission · Jun 26, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Jul 10, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 14, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 28, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Sep 11, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Oct 2, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Nov 13, 2014 → Planning Policy Commission · Feb 23, 2023 → Planning, Development & Environment Committee · Mar 28, 2023 → Human Services Commission · Sep 20, 2023 → Park Board · Nov 27, 2023 → hearing examiner · Jun 6, 2024 → Planning Policy Commission · Jul 25, 2024 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 8, 2024 → Environmental Board · Aug 14, 2024 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 22, 2024 → Planning Policy Commission · Sep 12, 2024 → City Council Committee of the Whole · Nov 18, 2024 → City Council Regular Meeting · Dec 2, 2024

◀ Prev: Human Services Commission · Sep 20, 2023 View full lifecycle → Next: Planning Policy Commission · Jul 25, 2024 ▶

Economic Development Action Plan AB 8753 ››››››››››››››››››››››› 21/24

Economic Vitality Commission · Jan 22, 2020 → Economic Vitality Commission · May 18, 2022 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jun 15, 2022 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jul 20, 2022 → Planning Policy Commission · Aug 11, 2022 → Economic Vitality Commission · Aug 17, 2022 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jan 18, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Feb 15, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Apr 19, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · May 17, 2023 → Arts Commission · Jun 21, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jun 21, 2023 → Equity Board · Jul 5, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jul 5, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Jul 19, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Aug 16, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Sep 20, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Oct 18, 2023 → Arts Commission · Nov 13, 2023 → Economic Vitality Commission · Nov 15, 2023 → Park Board · Nov 27, 2023 → Equity Board · Dec 6, 2023 → Services, Safety & Parks Committee · Jan 23, 2024 → City Council Regular Meeting · Feb 5, 2024

◀ Prev: Economic Vitality Commission · Nov 15, 2023 View full lifecycle → Next: Equity Board · Dec 6, 2023 ▶

Julius Boehm Pool Feasibility Study AB 8750 ››› 2/4

Arts Commission · May 21, 2015 → Park Board · Nov 27, 2023 → Services, Safety & Parks Committee · Dec 11, 2023 → City Council Regular Meeting · Jan 16, 2024

◀ Prev: Arts Commission · May 21, 2015 View full lifecycle → Next: Services, Safety & Parks Committee · Dec 11, 2023 ▶

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of October 23, 2023

packet pp.3–4

Open packet at p.3 ↗

Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 10-23-23 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave October 23, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update and Park System Plan Update: Goals & Policies, (D,A)

40 min · Robin Spear, Park Planning and Development Manager Valerie Porter, Associate Planner · packet pp.5–24

Topics: Land UseParks

▶ Watch from 6:26 Open packet at p.5 ↗

Staff report:

Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update and Park System Plan Update: Goals & Policies Draft NOVEMBER 27, 2023 | PARK BOARD Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

Julius Boehm Pool Feasibility Study

20 min · Brian Berntsen, Recreation Services Manager NAC Architecture, Consultant · packet pp.25–54

Topics: Parks

▶ Watch from 46:26 Open packet at p.25 ↗

Staff report:

> BROOKE HANLEY BRIAN LOVE, AIA AIA, LEED AP Project Architect & Design Lead Project Manager & Aquatics Specialty

Economic Development Action Plan

20 min · Farel Otieno, Economic Development Coordinator · packet pp.55–63

Topics: Economic Development

▶ Watch from 1:06:26 Open packet at p.55 ↗

Staff report:

• 2015-2018 Economic Vitality Strategic Plan • 2019 City’s Strategic Plan • Change in Economic Development – eliminated Department, number of staff reduced

5. REPORTS

Chairperson's Report

Youth Representative's Report

packet pp.65

Open packet at p.65 ↗

Staff report:

REPORTS c) Ongoing Calendar – tentative and a working document Month Agenda Items Month Agenda Items January 23 • Title 18 Draft July 24- • TOUR and/or Board meeting at a • Recreation Update cancelled park? • 2023 Work Plan – Ad Hoc groups?

Director's Report

2857 segments .txt ↗

0:02 ↗ so uh we're gonna this meeting is a

0:04 ↗ little special um with two of our normal

0:08 ↗ staff uh calling in from remote due to

0:13 ↗ that wonderful pandemic covid uh giving

0:17 ↗ them a a

0:19 ↗ vacation and uh so we'll start the

0:21 ↗ meeting and call to order and then I'll

0:24 ↗ go ahead and uh take rooll so um I'll

0:28 ↗ just go down the list and we'll see

0:30 ↗ who's on just in case we can't see any

0:34 ↗ everybody um okay is Marlene

0:40 ↗ here I don't see her yet okay but I

0:43 ↗ think she plans to show up she mentioned

0:45 ↗ that she

0:46 ↗ would uh

0:48 ↗ Zach I am here thank you Andrew

0:58 ↗ aloquin and AP oliz there were a couple

1:01 ↗ excuse absences but now I can't remember

1:03 ↗ who they were I think it was Katie and

1:05 ↗ Tim uh David

1:08 ↗ Lou just

1:10 ↗ arrived I'll come back to him real quick

1:13 ↗ uh Nicholas

1:14 ↗ Lee

1:17 ↗ present David Lou present perfect Branda

1:22 ↗ Spears

1:24 ↗ present and Katie has an excuse or

1:27 ↗ called in absence and Tim monley has

1:30 ↗ called in absence Brad book I'm

1:35 ↗ here Andrew

1:39 ↗ Meyers and Ryan Olsen here and I'm here

1:44 ↗ okay with that we'll move to the next

1:45 ↗ item uh did everybody have a chance to

1:48 ↗ review the minutes from the last

1:52 ↗ meeting any corrections uh or changes to

1:56 ↗ be

1:58 ↗ noted

2:01 ↗ right seeing none I will uh approve the

2:05 ↗ previous meeting's

2:07 ↗ minutes and with that uh we're gonna

2:11 ↗ open up for public comments it looks

2:13 ↗ like we might have somebody

2:19 ↗ interested Connie are you here for

2:21 ↗ public

2:22 ↗ comments okay uh please go

2:28 ↗ ahead

2:30 ↗ M you're oh you're muted somebody might

2:33 ↗ need to unmute

2:43 ↗ her hang on a sec Connie we can't hear

2:46 ↗ you

2:47 ↗ yet need to

2:49 ↗ do do we need to do that on theet I'm

2:52 ↗ working on it give working on it did con

2:57 ↗ oh there you go you're good Connie

3:02 ↗ I uh I have a Mac the little symbols

3:04 ↗ that's on this is not on my keyboard so

3:07 ↗ I was guessing so wooo good for me okay

3:10 ↗ Connie Marsh I live on squawk

3:12 ↗ mountain and um you've gotten a few

3:16 ↗ things for me because I deep archived

3:18 ↗ into the pool history because the pool

3:20 ↗ history was sort of uh a long painful

3:25 ↗ situation and so

3:28 ↗ um I I'm interested in probably one

3:34 ↗ thing really about the pools and that is

3:37 ↗ because all the forward thrust pools are

3:39 ↗ decaying sort of at the same rate and

3:42 ↗ many of the towns with these forward

3:44 ↗ thrust pools are going through this

3:46 ↗ study at exactly the same time I'm

3:49 ↗ wondering if King County is somehow

3:52 ↗ looking at creating a larger funding

3:56 ↗ opportunity that would conquer our uh a

4:00 ↗ a problem with half of the pool being

4:03 ↗ serving people outside isqua borders and

4:06 ↗ that has always been a problem with

4:07 ↗ getting funding for our pools and that's

4:09 ↗ how we got the original forward thrust

4:12 ↗ and I was actually wondering if that

4:14 ↗ could be on some sort of lobbying agenda

4:18 ↗ because it seems like it's more of a

4:20 ↗ Statewide issue at this point in time

4:22 ↗ with so many pools having the same issue

4:25 ↗ at the same time or at least larger than

4:27 ↗ the city of isqua so uh as I gathered

4:31 ↗ all of this information together that

4:32 ↗ was my main thought was to try to raise

4:36 ↗ the level of that from isqua to a

4:39 ↗ regional situation and how to do that

4:42 ↗ okay and then the next thing is the

4:45 ↗ comprehensive plan and strategic plan

4:48 ↗ language and especially when we are

4:51 ↗ looking at our Urban Forest management

4:54 ↗ plan and

4:56 ↗ after I don't know a gazillion years

4:59 ↗ because I'm getting old of watching The

5:01 ↗ City the wear

5:04 ↗ feasible means you never actually have

5:07 ↗ to do it so I really don't want an urban

5:11 ↗ Forest management plan in isqua to be

5:13 ↗ painted on green where we did the study

5:17 ↗ but now we can never actually get

5:19 ↗ anybody to do what we think they should

5:22 ↗ from this plan right so why waste the

5:27 ↗ money if we actually aren't going to do

5:28 ↗ it is this qu green or we painted on

5:31 ↗ green I think we need to make the

5:33 ↗ decision one way or the other and just

5:35 ↗ stop faking it right it's not where

5:37 ↗ feasible it's we need an urban Forest

5:40 ↗ management plan so that we can have the

5:43 ↗ city of isqua that we feel our entire

5:46 ↗ Vision depends on and we feasible and

5:50 ↗ applicable on any level does not does

5:54 ↗ not meet that I can't see if Valerie is

5:56 ↗ there somewhere but hi Valerie welcome

5:58 ↗ back if you you are if you are there and

6:01 ↗ those are are um my my two main points

6:06 ↗ for this evening thank

6:09 ↗ you thank you very much I'm assuming you

6:13 ↗ can mute

6:14 ↗ me Santi

6:20 ↗ can there you are look like you're muted

6:23 ↗ thank you uh okay so then before we go

6:26 ↗ into regular business I think we have an

6:28 ↗ introduction here and let Robin make

6:31 ↗ that yeah I'll start off Julie cassada

6:34 ↗ is here with us tonight another

6:36 ↗ landscape architect but she is our new

6:38 ↗ senior planner with the planning Parks

6:40 ↗ planning team we're excited to have her

6:43 ↗ on board very helpful very knowledgeable

6:46 ↗ and ready to dive into projects and

6:48 ↗ jefff I didn't know if you wanted to

6:50 ↗ expand on

6:52 ↗ that sure sure a little bit thanks Robin

6:56 ↗ uh Julie welcome uh so excited um

7:00 ↗ uh maybe you know give Julie a chance to

7:01 ↗ say hi uh she comes with a great breath

7:04 ↗ of experience as a landscape architect

7:06 ↗ uh has done a lot of Trail work uh for

7:08 ↗ Newcastle has done a lot of Trail work

7:10 ↗ with uh WTA the Washington Trails

7:13 ↗ Association um and again is filling our

7:17 ↗ our senior Park planner position the

7:19 ↗ position that that Jen Fink held before

7:21 ↗ we're just thrilled to have Julie on

7:22 ↗ board and uh just excited to really have

7:26 ↗ a team with with Robin and Julie um in

7:28 ↗ our Park planning uh division ready to

7:30 ↗ ready to go so thanks for those few

7:33 ↗ minutes uh welcome

7:36 ↗ Julie thanks Jeff and Robin uh nice to

7:38 ↗ meet you all I'm glad to be here I'm uh

7:41 ↗ putting it all together getting familiar

7:43 ↗ with the city um beyond what I was

7:46 ↗ already aware of and um look forward to

7:49 ↗ getting to know the projects that I'm

7:51 ↗ working on and the history and more

7:53 ↗ about all of you so I love public lands

7:56 ↗ love parks and

7:58 ↗ trails um

8:00 ↗ I enjoy backpacking and an obscure sport

8:05 ↗ orienteering um so I'm an avid user of

8:09 ↗ public lands and I look forward to

8:11 ↗ seeing what I could do here in

8:16 ↗ esqua thank

8:18 ↗ you uh okay so then the next uh uh go to

8:22 ↗ regular

8:23 ↗ business and Jeff you're going to

8:26 ↗ present about the comprehensive plan

8:28 ↗ periodic

8:30 ↗ update and park system plan and the

8:32 ↗ goals and policies and uh for all the uh

8:37 ↗ board members this is uh one of our

8:40 ↗ items where we're Park staff will be

8:42 ↗ looking for some action from us and you

8:45 ↗ know which would be you know a

8:47 ↗ recommendation that they can move staff

8:50 ↗ move forward with the draft goals and

8:51 ↗ this just be a recommendation to move

8:53 ↗ forward with the draft level and then it

8:55 ↗ would come back to us again in uh said

8:58 ↗ Q2 of 2024 so in a few

9:02 ↗ months perfect introduction Chris and

9:05 ↗ with that in in my current state of mind

9:08 ↗ sorry I'm not with you all um I'm going

9:10 ↗ to hand it over to the capable hands of

9:12 ↗ of Robin and Valerie to to start the

9:15 ↗ discussion yeah we're gonna tag team on

9:17 ↗ this one tonight but um just to kind of

9:20 ↗ piggyback on our discussion from last

9:23 ↗ month we do want to come back to the

9:25 ↗ goals and policies and introduce our

9:27 ↗ proposed policies that um we developed

9:30 ↗ based on your comments and we'll review

9:32 ↗ those but we wanted to make sure this

9:34 ↗ really tied back into the comprehensive

9:36 ↗ plan ofd dat so Valerie and Stephen are

9:39 ↗ here to give you a little overview of

9:42 ↗ where there are what the comprehensive

9:43 ↗ plan is about where they're at and where

9:45 ↗ they're headed

9:48 ↗ next

9:49 ↗ next okay next slide

9:55 ↗ please should I go this one yeah yeah

10:00 ↗ so what we want to do is kind of give

10:01 ↗ you a brief overview which Valerie and I

10:03 ↗ will dig into a little bit more but

10:05 ↗ really the comprehensive Plan update is

10:07 ↗ required every eight years to ensure to

10:10 ↗ ensure compliance with the growth

10:12 ↗ management act which is a state

10:15 ↗ requirement um they have a deadline of

10:17 ↗ December 31st 2024 so we're all working

10:20 ↗ together to review those elements and

10:22 ↗ making sure the the park portion of

10:25 ↗ those elements are updated and we're all

10:27 ↗ thinking the same way

10:29 ↗ um and planning for the same things uh

10:31 ↗ it includes a public participation

10:33 ↗ program for comments and feedback so

10:35 ↗ this isn't the only chance it will have

10:37 ↗ more chances to come in and give

10:39 ↗ comments um we want to make sure this

10:41 ↗ really aligns with our goals and

10:43 ↗ policies of the 2018 Park strategic plan

10:46 ↗ but our and also our upcoming 2024 Park

10:50 ↗ system

10:51 ↗ update and then after Valerie gets done

10:53 ↗ I I'll be diving back into the park

10:56 ↗ goals and policies where we're going to

10:58 ↗ show that align with the comprehensive

11:00 ↗ plans Capital facilities land use

11:02 ↗ elements and other City

11:04 ↗ priorities um it helps to establish our

11:07 ↗ level of service to indicate future

11:09 ↗ facility needs uh the level of service

11:12 ↗ also speaks opportunities for grant

11:14 ↗ funding which we'll definitely be going

11:16 ↗ for and looking at at the end of 2024 to

11:18 ↗ see what's coming up for 2025 and

11:21 ↗ helping align those projects with um the

11:24 ↗ projects priority projects we we're

11:26 ↗ going to present in the park system Plan

11:28 ↗ update

11:29 ↗ and definitely the goals and pol we want

11:31 ↗ to keep reiterating the goals and

11:33 ↗ policies will be brought back um this

11:36 ↗ isn't the final draft is in final

11:38 ↗ iteration but we have at least one more

11:40 ↗ chance for everyone to comment and re

11:44 ↗ start keep tweaking things if we need to

11:46 ↗ tweak them

11:47 ↗ so and with that I'll hand it over to

11:51 ↗ Valerie our associate Planner yeah hi

11:53 ↗ everyone Valley Reporter associate

11:55 ↗ planner with the community Planning and

11:57 ↗ Development Department also know as also

11:59 ↗ known as CPD um as a department we deal

12:02 ↗ with development in the city so that's

12:03 ↗ residential commercial industrial um we

12:06 ↗ review and um issue land use and

12:09 ↗ construction permits we do um

12:12 ↗ inspections we also develop neighborhood

12:14 ↗ plans and regulations for uh land use

12:17 ↗ code and then we're also responsible for

12:19 ↗ updating the comprehensive plan so I'm

12:22 ↗ just going to keep this information very

12:24 ↗ high level um so just to get us started

12:27 ↗ so we know how this came about um in

12:30 ↗ 1990 the growth management Act was

12:32 ↗ adopted and that required fast growing

12:34 ↗ cities and counties to develop a

12:36 ↗ comprehensive plan that would guide

12:38 ↗ future growth for a 20year span this law

12:42 ↗ intended cities and counties to address

12:44 ↗ ra uh population growth the quality of

12:48 ↗ life for Washington and so if you look

12:50 ↗ at the graphic you'll notice that

12:52 ↗ planning occurs at different levels at

12:54 ↗ the local level and then cities and then

12:57 ↗ at multiple counties

13:00 ↗ in order for the city to comply with the

13:01 ↗ state requirement and like R Robin said

13:03 ↗ to remain eligible for federal and state

13:06 ↗ grants it's a qua much draft

13:08 ↗ comprehensive plan and it's required to

13:10 ↗ address 14 um required goals and this

13:13 ↗ could include housing or this will

13:14 ↗ include housing Transportation Economic

13:17 ↗ Development and urban growth just to

13:19 ↗ name a few next

13:22 ↗ Slide the required goals are discussed

13:25 ↗ in elements that make up the

13:26 ↗ comprehensive plan the city's uh

13:29 ↗ comprehensive plan has 10 elements that

13:31 ↗ are shown here on the slide and each

13:34 ↗ element lists the vision goals and

13:37 ↗ policies for that

13:39 ↗ topic next slide

13:42 ↗ please Al the although the comprehensive

13:45 ↗ plan is a 20-year plan changes occur

13:48 ↗ within that time so it's important to

13:49 ↗ keep the comprehensive plan updated the

13:52 ↗ comprehensive plan um can be updated in

13:54 ↗ two ways annually and through a periodic

13:57 ↗ update mannually updates occur or or

14:01 ↗ they usually address minor um changes so

14:03 ↗ something like um a zoning map would be

14:06 ↗ changed and that can occur because um a

14:09 ↗ parcel was re rezoned or um the city

14:12 ↗ recently acquired some new property so

14:14 ↗ we would update the zoning map and that

14:16 ↗ would occur through an annual update we

14:18 ↗ would also um update a single element

14:21 ↗ through a year um and again we would do

14:23 ↗ that just to try to be consistent with

14:25 ↗ supporting plans and make sure that

14:26 ↗ we're dat so the second update would be

14:30 ↗ the periodic um update which is what the

14:33 ↗ city is currently in the process um the

14:35 ↗ city is required to update the comp plan

14:37 ↗ every 10 years which was recently

14:39 ↗ changed from every eight years and we're

14:41 ↗ drafting the 2024 plan to guide

14:44 ↗ development through 2044 so with these

14:47 ↗ two um updates our comprehensive plan

14:50 ↗ stays fairly

14:52 ↗ updated next

14:56 ↗ slide so there are a few goals that we

15:00 ↗ would like the comprehensive Plan update

15:02 ↗ to achieve the first one is

15:04 ↗ compliance um we would like to make sure

15:06 ↗ that the plan is compliant with State

15:08 ↗ and County requirements many of these

15:10 ↗ requirements are for housing um so none

15:13 ↗ of the requirements will impact the

15:15 ↗ parking element the second goal is

15:17 ↗ coordination so we really want to make

15:20 ↗ sure that there's coordination between

15:21 ↗ the elements the first thing we want is

15:23 ↗ to make sure there are no duplicates

15:24 ↗ between the elements that just causes

15:26 ↗ confusion and makes it really

15:29 ↗ um troubling when we're trying to update

15:31 ↗ one element and there's a duplicate

15:33 ↗ policy and we also want all of the

15:35 ↗ elements to align with the land use um

15:38 ↗ the land uses and the growth

15:40 ↗ projection the third goal for this

15:42 ↗ update is the design and access we would

15:45 ↗ like the comprehensive plan to be

15:46 ↗ designed and place in a spot that is

15:48 ↗ easily accessible and it could be a

15:50 ↗ usable tool for all of the staff and um

15:53 ↗ also the

15:55 ↗ public next

15:57 ↗ slide

15:59 ↗ so the comprehensive plan is essential

16:01 ↗ for local planning as it articulates a

16:03 ↗ series of goals objectives and policies

16:06 ↗ that are intended to guide day-to-day

16:08 ↗ Decisions by elected officials and the

16:10 ↗ local government so this slide shows um

16:14 ↗ a flowchart kind of illustrating how the

16:16 ↗ comprehensive plan pays apart and with

16:18 ↗ other City plans and regulations at the

16:21 ↗ top you'll see the comprehensive plan

16:22 ↗ and how it IND identifies the vision of

16:25 ↗ how the city wants to plan and grow the

16:27 ↗ vision talks about why why is this is a

16:30 ↗ quad Vision the goals and the policies

16:33 ↗ then talk about what the city wants the

16:36 ↗ comprehens of plan then feeds into the

16:38 ↗ functional plans and we're calling U

16:40 ↗ what we're calling functional plans are

16:41 ↗ like the master Mobility plan the parks

16:44 ↗ plan the um Human Services strategic

16:46 ↗ plan these are functional plans that

16:48 ↗ discuss the implementation and they

16:50 ↗ provide the framework on how we actually

16:53 ↗ achieve these goals through strategies

16:55 ↗ actions and possible resources the

16:58 ↗ functional plans then inform the city

17:01 ↗ budget and regulations like the isqua

17:03 ↗ municipal code and there it then feeds

17:06 ↗ into a performance metrics that will be

17:08 ↗ checked annually to make sure that the

17:09 ↗ city's on track for reaching those goals

17:13 ↗ next slide

17:16 ↗ please this slide is showing a VIN

17:18 ↗ diagram that shows the relationship

17:20 ↗ between the comprehensive plan and the

17:22 ↗ functional plan so you'll notice that

17:24 ↗ the vision is listed in the element and

17:27 ↗ then that there's a little bit of

17:28 ↗ overlap with the goalss and the policies

17:31 ↗ these and then the strategies are listed

17:32 ↗ in the functional plan the goals and

17:35 ↗ policies will be the only um items that

17:38 ↗ will be listed in both of these

17:39 ↗ documents but truly the documents are

17:41 ↗ separate um and the goals and policies

17:44 ↗ listed in the functional plan will more

17:46 ↗ so be for reference just so people kind

17:48 ↗ of understand um the main purpose and

17:51 ↗ understand where the strategies and

17:52 ↗ actions are coming

17:55 ↗ from next

17:57 ↗ slide

18:00 ↗ yeah so kind of transitioning over those

18:03 ↗ goals and policies are being crafted

18:05 ↗ with our Park system uh update our Park

18:07 ↗ system Plan update so and then they'll

18:10 ↗ be kind of uploaded so to speak up into

18:13 ↗ the comprehensive plan so we want to

18:15 ↗ make sure that our Visions are aligning

18:18 ↗ with the overall V City Vision and that

18:20 ↗ we're saying the same thing so um so

18:23 ↗ again last month we talked about goals

18:25 ↗ and policies and again um goals and

18:28 ↗ policies kind of take the community's

18:30 ↗ vision and translate them into a focused

18:32 ↗ Direction providing guidance for

18:35 ↗ implementation preservation funding and

18:38 ↗ management um again it's a guiding

18:40 ↗ document it's not set in stone but we

18:43 ↗ want to be able to reference these goals

18:44 ↗ and policies as we're developing

18:47 ↗ projects as we're reviewing projects and

18:48 ↗ making sure that it's still um aligning

18:52 ↗ with our overall Vision um we looked at

18:54 ↗ eight goals that were based off of the

18:57 ↗ 2018 plan

18:58 ↗ so we have parks for today and future

19:00 ↗ Generations the balance Park system

19:02 ↗ connectivity planning and design

19:04 ↗ considerations environmental

19:06 ↗ preservation maintenance and stewardship

19:08 ↗ Partnerships and

19:09 ↗ implementation so just based on your

19:12 ↗ feedback we want to keep those the same

19:14 ↗ and kind of expand off of those and keep

19:16 ↗ the same policies but tweak it a little

19:19 ↗ based on what we're hearing in the

19:21 ↗ community and hearing from the park

19:22 ↗ board members okay next

19:25 ↗ slide so these were the original or the

19:30 ↗ 2018 uh goals and policies and what we

19:33 ↗ did is just put a across on the ones

19:36 ↗ that we've updated or added on to so we

19:40 ↗ have the balance Park system our

19:41 ↗ planning and design considerations

19:43 ↗ environmental preservation Partnerships

19:46 ↗ and implementation were the primary

19:48 ↗ focus last

19:50 ↗ month okay so I just want to make sure

19:53 ↗ that we heard everything and we got the

19:55 ↗ feedback um correct so um Hassan and I

19:59 ↗ went through all our our um our meeting

20:03 ↗ notes and this is what we heard I just

20:06 ↗ want to review these with you and make

20:07 ↗ sure we didn't miss anything so the

20:10 ↗ first one how can we Foster Economic

20:12 ↗ Development into the system plan uh

20:15 ↗ second integrate the native tribes into

20:17 ↗ the planning and design of new projects

20:20 ↗ third integrate artwork educational

20:22 ↗ historical and cultural elements into

20:24 ↗ the design of new projects uh integrate

20:27 ↗ the Heritage tree an urban Forest

20:29 ↗ management plan into the environmental

20:31 ↗ preservation goal uh develop metrics to

20:34 ↗ evaluate the progress of the system plan

20:37 ↗ and projects and integrate technology

20:39 ↗ into the implementation goal such as GIS

20:43 ↗ we'll look at level of service again any

20:45 ↗ other U new technology we see coming we

20:48 ↗ like to kind of incorporate as much as

20:50 ↗ possible and we're feasible and we're

20:53 ↗ applicable so if there's anything we

20:55 ↗ missed you know let us know um

20:59 ↗ that sound about right based on on

21:02 ↗ comments okay okay great next

21:08 ↗ slide oh

21:11 ↗ Nicholas I was just gonna say I really

21:13 ↗ appreciate number five on that previous

21:15 ↗ slide so thank you for slipping that in

21:16 ↗ there as a objective of the overall

21:20 ↗ update you're welcome number five just

21:23 ↗ go yeah develop metrics to evaluate the

21:26 ↗ progress of the system plan projects no

21:28 ↗ that's important for us and Julie and I

21:31 ↗ are are starting to dig into that as

21:33 ↗ well as as we're running through

21:35 ↗ projects and seeing what's coming up

21:36 ↗ next year bu plate next year which is

21:40 ↗ exciting okay next next

21:43 ↗ slide all right so our first proposed

21:47 ↗ additional policy was for the balance

21:49 ↗ Park system and policy B point6 seek to

21:53 ↗ understand the economic benefits the

21:55 ↗ park system provides while balancing

21:58 ↗ residential use with regional

22:02 ↗ visitors and we know that that's

22:04 ↗ becoming a big part of Park systems is

22:06 ↗ how to Foster that and how to um

22:11 ↗ integrate tourism integrate more

22:14 ↗ Economic Development into the parks uh

22:16 ↗ it seems like a more sustainable program

22:19 ↗ depending on what's coming in but it it

22:21 ↗ provides a little bit more um revenue

22:24 ↗ for for

22:26 ↗ the for parks in

22:29 ↗ general um do you like the way that's

22:31 ↗ crafted or do you want to see any

22:34 ↗ additional tweaks

22:37 ↗ or I think well I'll just ask after each

22:40 ↗ one you know we can review it and see if

22:42 ↗ you like it again this isn't the final

22:44 ↗ final so um you do have time again to

22:47 ↗ think about it a little bit more and

22:48 ↗ offer more

22:53 ↗ suggestions Chris could we put seek to

22:56 ↗ understand and measure economic benefits

22:59 ↗ 10

23:01 ↗ C and put some numbers to

23:09 ↗ it that sound good okay great next

23:15 ↗ slide all right and gold D probably has

23:17 ↗ the most additions to it but starting

23:19 ↗ out policy d18 or proposed Edition

23:23 ↗ ensure that the native tribes are

23:24 ↗ included in in the Outreach and review

23:27 ↗ with within the planning process and I

23:30 ↗ know this is something we're starting to

23:32 ↗ strengthen but I think it's a great

23:34 ↗ policy

23:36 ↗ addition want me to run through just all

23:38 ↗ three and then we'll we can discuss all

23:41 ↗ three sure okay d19 Ure public art or an

23:45 ↗ AR artistic process that provides

23:48 ↗ culture storytelling history or

23:50 ↗ education is considered an included

23:52 ↗ early in the design process of the new

23:54 ↗ project where

23:55 ↗ feasible it could either be an art

23:58 ↗ element or bringing in an artist into

24:00 ↗ the design process which I've seen done

24:02 ↗ times which gives us just more

24:04 ↗ opportunity to incorporated as much as

24:08 ↗ possible and then policy D20 recognize

24:11 ↗ the economic benefits that the park

24:12 ↗ system provides when planning projects

24:15 ↗ and providing services within the system

24:18 ↗ and again it's that economic peace

24:20 ↗ economic development but integrated into

24:23 ↗ the planning process as

24:25 ↗ well so we can hit it either with the

24:28 ↗ existing park or during the planning

24:30 ↗ process and kind of think ahead on that

24:33 ↗ one and

24:35 ↗ Jeff thanks great overview Robin and

24:38 ↗ Valerie I just want to add to to this

24:40 ↗ one and and other ones coming up uh I

24:42 ↗ think given the public comment um again

24:44 ↗ we're open to some some thoughts by the

24:47 ↗ park board but you know for example the

24:49 ↗ the the policy

24:51 ↗ d19 um our intent of we we feasible was

24:55 ↗ not to say we're never going to do it um

24:57 ↗ based on some of the initial public

24:59 ↗ comment I think we as staff would be

25:01 ↗ fine striking those two words our intent

25:05 ↗ of this PO policy and really many of the

25:07 ↗ other ones is just to reaffirm our our

25:09 ↗ mindfulness as we as we head into and

25:12 ↗ into into projects and um being very

25:15 ↗ mindful of Art and

25:18 ↗ storytelling um for this

25:23 ↗ policy okay so let's jump back um to d8

25:29 ↗ anything else that we want to add or or

25:31 ↗ recraft in that

25:36 ↗ one

25:38 ↗ good great thumbs up okay uh how about

25:42 ↗ d19 the our our portion of

25:50 ↗ it is this where we would remove where

25:53 ↗ feasible and we can remove where

25:55 ↗ feasible yeah and just strike that

25:58 ↗ sure I think Nicholas did you have your

26:00 ↗ hand up on that one no okay and then D20

26:05 ↗ again coming back to recognizing the

26:07 ↗ economic benefits that could be

26:09 ↗ developed um during the planning and

26:11 ↗ design stages I just have a question 18

26:16 ↗ um the native tribes we really wanted to

26:19 ↗ hit that but should there be a comma and

26:21 ↗ other

26:22 ↗ cultures that's a good point yeah yeah

26:25 ↗ expand that even of narrows it oh we

26:27 ↗ went

26:28 ↗ we're trying to earlier a month or two

26:30 ↗ ago we're talking about getting the park

26:32 ↗ so that more cultures right are shown

26:35 ↗ there and utiliz yeah now that's a great

26:38 ↗ that's a great great comment good

26:44 ↗ idea okay can I ask a question sure yeah

26:49 ↗ um can you guys um maybe expand on what

26:51 ↗ you mean by economic benefits in policy

26:54 ↗ uh

26:56 ↗ E20 yeah Jeff do you want to take on

26:58 ↗ this one I know we we had a discussion

27:00 ↗ about this this morning

27:04 ↗ too sure um again I think it's just

27:08 ↗ recognizing our mindfulness as we go

27:11 ↗ into planning projects designing

27:12 ↗ projects that um our Park system um has

27:18 ↗ has many economic benefits um

27:22 ↗ including um um you know economic

27:26 ↗ benefits that that speak to quality of

27:28 ↗ life and livability and um you know

27:31 ↗ property values for existing residents

27:33 ↗ for example um other economic benefits

27:36 ↗ are um again you know is it you

27:40 ↗ know how we manage how we Steward how we

27:43 ↗ invest in our Park system is that

27:45 ↗ helping to Inc incubate more private

27:47 ↗ investment um into uh the community or

27:50 ↗ attracting the type of businesses that

27:52 ↗ isqua wants and so uh this is just

27:56 ↗ wanting to recognize you know economic

27:58 ↗ benefit is not meant to be The Driver of

27:59 ↗ our Park system um I think the driver of

28:02 ↗ our Park system is serving our our

28:03 ↗ residents but but understanding if we do

28:06 ↗ this thoughtfully and do it well um we

28:08 ↗ want to be aware um and again remain

28:11 ↗ mindful of those economic

28:13 ↗ benefits great thank you as we develop

28:16 ↗ the ones in downtown is well right now

28:19 ↗ you'll see more people coming in I hope

28:21 ↗ to bring their children in and they'll

28:23 ↗ be going to the businesses and there'll

28:24 ↗ be a big economic indate we hope impact

28:28 ↗ downtown that's right yeah it not only

28:31 ↗ benefits the park but but will benefit

28:33 ↗ surrounding businesses as

28:36 ↗ well good good

28:39 ↗ one okay uh next

28:42 ↗ slide oh I have my hand raised

28:46 ↗ is great thanks sorry it's a little

28:48 ↗ awkward online um I like where Brenda

28:51 ↗ was uh going with making sure that we're

28:53 ↗ being inclusive of all um communities

28:56 ↗ I'm curious if we already have have

28:58 ↗ language in the goals and policies that

29:01 ↗ ensure that we're taking like the full

29:03 ↗ community of isqua I just want to be

29:05 ↗ careful about the language that we use

29:07 ↗ around othering people and so I just

29:10 ↗ wanted to one understand do we already

29:12 ↗ have language that talks about taking a

29:14 ↗ diverse look at our community and then

29:16 ↗ two if we are going to add in additional

29:19 ↗ words to native tribes let's just maybe

29:21 ↗ partner up with the um Equity committee

29:23 ↗ to ensure that we're wording that

29:25 ↗ correctly word matter

29:29 ↗ here yeah in reviewing some of the the

29:31 ↗ 2018 policies I know we did talk about

29:36 ↗ diversity and and I can pull those I

29:38 ↗ don't know I can't remember specifically

29:40 ↗ which one but I'll pull those out for

29:42 ↗ you Marlene to make sure but I think

29:44 ↗ that's a good point to make sure we are

29:46 ↗ covering that in

29:48 ↗ dat yeah or if it's already covered we

29:50 ↗ don't need to double cover it like I'm

29:52 ↗ fine with it we've already feel like

29:53 ↗ we've covered that we're ensuring that

29:55 ↗ we're taking a a you know you know broad

29:58 ↗ diverse swath of our community and these

30:00 ↗ um we don't need to add it here we can

30:02 ↗ let this one stand alone as Native

30:04 ↗ America native tribes um but if it is

30:06 ↗ not included I think then we should ask

30:08 ↗ the diversity committee should it be

30:10 ↗ included here with native tribe does it

30:12 ↗ stand better together or does it belong

30:14 ↗ somewhere else that's already included I

30:16 ↗ think that's that language needs to be

30:18 ↗ very well thought out versus just sort

30:20 ↗ of added on but I agree with the intent

30:22 ↗ as Brenda

30:24 ↗ mentioned great suggested approach um

30:27 ↗ Marlene yeah and yeah we can confirm

30:30 ↗ that we we've certainly talked about um

30:33 ↗ um access and um inclusion of all um all

30:37 ↗ community members um uh throughout the

30:40 ↗ the goals and policies and and perhaps

30:42 ↗ let this one speak to our um intent to

30:46 ↗ to really engage with the native

30:50 ↗ tribes I just was going to Pig you back

30:52 ↗ on what Jeff said and just let you know

30:54 ↗ that other elements are talking about

30:55 ↗ diversity and um other areas so we want

30:58 ↗ to stay specific for native tribes here

31:01 ↗ at okay maybe maybe if we find it's

31:04 ↗ necessary to put an additional policy

31:06 ↗ just for additional cultures and

31:08 ↗ diversity right in the planning and

31:10 ↗ design stage

31:12 ↗ specifically okay interested yeah

31:17 ↗ great okay any any other recommendations

31:20 ↗ or feedback

31:21 ↗ on this

31:25 ↗ portion great okay next one

31:33 ↗ okay so environmental preservation we

31:36 ↗ added policy .7 integrate the

31:39 ↗ recommendations and goals of the urban

31:41 ↗ Forest management plan into projects and

31:44 ↗ maintenance practices and this is

31:46 ↗ something we're talking to Dan hence

31:48 ↗ very closely with um I know they're just

31:51 ↗ starting in on their management plan

31:52 ↗ also so depending on the results they

31:55 ↗ get we'd really like to take a look at

31:57 ↗ that and start integrating that as much

31:58 ↗ as possible into any new projects and

32:01 ↗ see where where feasible into existing

32:05 ↗ projects and policy 88.8 recognize and

32:08 ↗ support trees designated with Heritage

32:11 ↗ trees status within the park system and

32:15 ↗ again um I Know Dan has um is reviewing

32:19 ↗ that policy as well and nominations how

32:21 ↗ to go about that so once that's complete

32:25 ↗ uh we'll be able to integrate that into

32:27 ↗ our environmental preservation again it

32:29 ↗ it belongs along in aliance with our

32:31 ↗ Steward stewardship vision and

32:34 ↗ goals and just reinforcing our

32:36 ↗ commitment to aligning this and our

32:38 ↗ stewardship of the park system um you'll

32:41 ↗ see in this proposed Edition we we would

32:44 ↗ um be more than welcome and and um

32:48 ↗ suggest and recommend striking where

32:50 ↗ feasible from

32:56 ↗ this how do those two sound on to

32:58 ↗ everybody

33:00 ↗ good

33:02 ↗ great everybody on oh

33:05 ↗ Nicholas sorry my brain's working slower

33:08 ↗ than we're progressing here so just on

33:12 ↗ the the E8 um you know an opportunity

33:15 ↗ this is just my thought to strengthen

33:18 ↗ the idea of supporting a tree that's

33:21 ↗ designated as Heritage it might just be

33:22 ↗ the word protect or preserve as opposed

33:25 ↗ to support um

33:27 ↗ certainly we want to recognize them but

33:29 ↗ then my mind thinks support has so many

33:32 ↗ meanings in terms of trees like are we

33:34 ↗ going to be propping them up with wood

33:36 ↗ or like

33:37 ↗ exactly um you know what ways are we

33:39 ↗ supporting them I guess uh an idea of

33:42 ↗ the Heritage tree is really for

33:43 ↗ preservation and protection and I

33:45 ↗ thought

33:49 ↗ anyways oh that's a good point yeah we

33:52 ↗ and we can look at those terms and look

33:54 ↗ at that and how we really want to

33:58 ↗ integrate that into into this park

34:00 ↗ system

34:02 ↗ plan I like that suggestion of swapping

34:05 ↗ out ra so you're saying Nicholas rather

34:07 ↗ than support let's use let's use

34:11 ↗ protect yeah the word preserve shows up

34:13 ↗ in that blurb to the left under goal e

34:16 ↗ environmental so protect seems less

34:19 ↗ repetitive but I think that that's kind

34:21 ↗ of this just the idea and it's just one

34:23 ↗ person's idea so other members might

34:25 ↗ feel differently

34:31 ↗ it just wasn't slide

34:34 ↗ different de

34:38 ↗ it okay yeah we've been looking at these

34:41 ↗ a lot this week and kind of regrafting

34:42 ↗ and and reviewing those with Valerie and

34:45 ↗ Stephen so but we're definitely open to

34:48 ↗ recommendations or if if we feel protect

34:51 ↗ is a better better word for that we can

34:55 ↗ switch that up

35:00 ↗ and keep in mind that these are for you

35:03 ↗ know as we're we're doing sort of Park

35:05 ↗ planning and and and our visioning um

35:08 ↗ there are already you know Heritage tree

35:11 ↗ protections within city code there's

35:13 ↗ also the Heritage tree program itself

35:15 ↗ that is getting its review that will

35:16 ↗ have the language um for protection as

35:19 ↗ well um so it it totally open to adding

35:24 ↗ that in here but I also wanted to make

35:26 ↗ sure that there's that extra context

35:27 ↗ that there are other places where that

35:29 ↗ language will and does

35:38 ↗ exist all right we we we'll keep looking

35:41 ↗ at that one

35:43 ↗ definitely take into account protection

35:46 ↗ oh jez

35:48 ↗ yeah okay any other ideas

35:53 ↗ or right okay go to the next next

36:02 ↗ slide all right gold G Partnerships so

36:06 ↗ our proposed addition for g12 is seek to

36:09 ↗ include native tribes as

36:11 ↗ intergovernmental Partners in park

36:12 ↗ maintenance programming and park Capital

36:15 ↗ initiatives and again it was our

36:17 ↗ discussion on on integrating native

36:20 ↗ tribes into the design process but also

36:23 ↗ as a as a partner as a long-term partner

36:25 ↗ which I think is critical and important

36:28 ↗ and ties back into our sustainability

36:30 ↗ and management of the system as as a

36:32 ↗ whole but in particular um tribal

36:39 ↗ land how's everyone feel about that one

36:43 ↗ Marlene I'm curious if you need the word

36:45 ↗ seek to that just softens it like you

36:48 ↗ don't have to do it should we just say

36:50 ↗ include say includ strike out great

36:55 ↗ suggestion

36:59 ↗ again that can be kind of pulled back

37:01 ↗ into our metrics also to see how

37:04 ↗ successful that

37:09 ↗ was s was for change get rid of

37:14 ↗ se2 just

37:19 ↗ includ all right uh next

37:23 ↗ slide I think this is our our final

37:26 ↗ Edition

37:28 ↗ um

37:30 ↗ implementation uh h8 Implement and and

37:34 ↗ evaluation tool to help determine

37:36 ↗ near-term and long long-term Park

37:38 ↗ project success so again that goes back

37:41 ↗ to the metrics that we need to develop

37:44 ↗ to um ensure that we're we're um hitting

37:50 ↗ successful

37:52 ↗ projects and making sure that they are

37:54 ↗ successful and meet the needs of the

37:56 ↗ community

37:57 ↗ and H9 Implement technology and programs

37:59 ↗ that assist in evaluating project

38:02 ↗ success and level of service and again

38:05 ↗ there are a lot of new technologies

38:06 ↗ coming online but I think GIS is um a

38:10 ↗ big topic right now and one we

38:12 ↗ definitely want to dive into in the

38:14 ↗ upcoming

38:18 ↗ years so any any comments or feedback on

38:21 ↗ those

38:23 ↗ two and of Hit the metric side hit the

38:26 ↗ technology

38:27 ↗ just a question level service means so

38:30 ↗ uh level of service is how we're

38:36 ↗ um oh je

38:39 ↗ sorry sorry the question was what is

38:42 ↗ level of service yeah yeah so um Park

38:47 ↗ systems are are asked to provide a um or

38:50 ↗ determine what the the the service level

38:53 ↗ is to the community um often and for for

38:57 ↗ decades level of service has been very

38:59 ↗ much just a a quantity based metric

39:02 ↗ meaning you know acres per 1,000 right

39:05 ↗ so how how many acres of Parkland do you

39:07 ↗ have per thousand residents

39:10 ↗ um I've been doing this way too long as

39:13 ↗ a park director but I love it I I've

39:15 ↗ seen in my in my 20 some years that that

39:18 ↗ quantity based metric doesn't

39:20 ↗ necessarily hold up

39:23 ↗ because City might have you know a right

39:26 ↗ number of Acres but it it doesn't speak

39:28 ↗ to anything of the quality of those

39:30 ↗ Acres how are those Acres performing and

39:32 ↗ so um level of service again a really

39:36 ↗ important metric uh we would like to get

39:38 ↗ a little bit more in fact a lot more

39:40 ↗ nuanced um in how we're determining the

39:43 ↗ level of service of isas Park system so

39:46 ↗ um hope that

39:55 ↗ helps great

39:57 ↗ any other feedback on that one that was

39:59 ↗ a good good question I do have actually

40:01 ↗ a print out that kind of walks you

40:03 ↗ through level of service and how that

40:05 ↗ was

40:06 ↗ evaluated

40:09 ↗ great okay next

40:14 ↗ slide all right so those are the

40:16 ↗ policies that that we've developed based

40:18 ↗ on the feedback we've heard so far um is

40:21 ↗ there anything you think that we missed

40:23 ↗ or that we should really reconsider or

40:26 ↗ add into and again we're we're going to

40:28 ↗ keep the former policies that we had in

40:31 ↗ the 2018 plan and just add these new

40:33 ↗ ones

40:38 ↗ in any more

40:41 ↗ discussion okay so

40:43 ↗ then the requested motion or the

40:47 ↗ appropriate motion at this point if

40:49 ↗ staff is to proceed would be that uh the

40:51 ↗ park board recommend moving forward with

40:55 ↗ the draft goals and policies into both

40:57 ↗ the comprehensive plan and park system

40:59 ↗ plan updates and this is understanding

41:02 ↗ that this is a a draft version and then

41:04 ↗ a final draft would be coming back to

41:06 ↗ the board in Q2 of 2024 so if someone if

41:11 ↗ people agree with that and someone would

41:12 ↗ like to make that motion like that

41:15 ↗ motion just like you said it okay we

41:17 ↗ have a second second okay uh so we'll

41:21 ↗ vote and because we have a few

41:24 ↗ absences uh both both of our alternates

41:27 ↗ Brad and Ryan who are present can vote

41:30 ↗ and so all those in favor of the motion

41:32 ↗ please say uh please raise your hand so

41:35 ↗ we'll

41:36 ↗ count this way so Asanti David Ryan

41:42 ↗ Brenda and I are all yes and then Zach

41:46 ↗ marleene and Nicholas are

41:50 ↗ yes

41:52 ↗ think oh Brad can't see Brad

41:59 ↗ somehow he got double

42:01 ↗ yes I

42:04 ↗ see so it sounds like unanimously you

42:08 ↗ all vote to move these forward into

42:11 ↗ their draft versions for both

42:14 ↗ plans excellent thank you

42:18 ↗ everyone Chris real quickly thank thank

42:20 ↗ thank you everybody um just a quick

42:23 ↗ thank you to to Robin and Valerie um and

42:26 ↗ just the discussion we've had these last

42:28 ↗ couple of months um the the the

42:30 ↗ intentionality of aligning the comp plan

42:32 ↗ work with this park system Plan update

42:34 ↗ this time around is going to be really

42:36 ↗ really helpful and so um again Valerie

42:39 ↗ thanks for joining um Stephen thanks for

42:41 ↗ joining as well um it's great to have

42:44 ↗ alignment with our our partners in

42:45 ↗ community Planning and

42:48 ↗ Development thank

42:51 ↗ you okay then the next item and I'm

42:53 ↗ going to read the um the agenda a little

42:57 ↗ more carefully this will be presented by

43:01 ↗ Brian this is H regarding the Julius BM

43:04 ↗ full feasibility

43:06 ↗ study thank you uh for those who don't

43:09 ↗ know me I'm Brian burnson on the

43:11 ↗ Recreation services manager for the

43:13 ↗ Parkson commun Services Department uh

43:15 ↗ here to talk to you tonight about the

43:16 ↗ pool feasibility study um really quickly

43:19 ↗ I thought I'd give you a quick history

43:21 ↗ lesson on our Julius bone pool there is

43:23 ↗ a little bit of a process there that uh

43:26 ↗ occurred over time I just thought really

43:27 ↗ quickly I'll run through that but I do

43:29 ↗ spend most of our time talking about the

43:31 ↗ pro visibility study um the julus bone

43:34 ↗ pool was built in 1972 under the King

43:36 ↗ County forward thrust program at the

43:40 ↗ time the population of isqua was

43:41 ↗ approximately 3,000 people uh King

43:44 ↗ County was the owner operator of the

43:45 ↗ facility at that

43:47 ↗ time um in 1994 through an agreement

43:50 ↗ with King County the city of isqua

43:52 ↗ assumed ownership and operation of the

43:54 ↗ Julie bone pool uh from the beginning

43:57 ↗ even when the city assumed operation at

43:59 ↗ that time there's been a demand for

44:00 ↗ additional water capacity and that's

44:03 ↗ continued to grow for the past 30 years

44:06 ↗ um in 2009 the city of isqua conducted a

44:08 ↗ pool feasibility study I believe that

44:10 ↗ document was mailed to some of you

44:12 ↗ earlier today it's it's a big document I

44:13 ↗ don't assume that you probably read

44:14 ↗ through it yet but it's uh a lot of good

44:16 ↗ information in there uh the study again

44:19 ↗ identified that there's a demonstrated

44:20 ↗ need for additional water capacity um

44:23 ↗ you know through that study we

44:24 ↗ identified uh six different different uh

44:26 ↗ options at the time there was two

44:28 ↗ preferred options uh that was you know

44:31 ↗ that they sort of later fed some of the

44:33 ↗ work that was done in

44:34 ↗ 2015 um which is my next topic too which

44:37 ↗ is 2013 City pass a park Bond and there

44:40 ↗ was $5 million at that time allocated to

44:42 ↗ the Julius bone pool um a lot of that um

44:47 ↗ a lot of the work that was done in

44:49 ↗ 2009 the items were that needed to be

44:51 ↗ worked on were actually done in 2015

44:55 ↗ which was great but once again that was

44:57 ↗ operationally that was to extend the

44:59 ↗ life of the facility that did not extend

45:02 ↗ or provide for additional water

45:04 ↗ capacity um in 2008

45:08 ↗ um and nine like I said yeah I already

45:10 ↗ covered that piece that the study

45:12 ↗ informed it and then in 2022 the city of

45:15 ↗ isqua applied for and received an

45:16 ↗ aquatic feasibility Grant from King

45:18 ↗ County Park so King County provided us

45:20 ↗ with a grant we applied for it and got

45:23 ↗ it awarded to us to conduct a

45:25 ↗ feasibility study on the Julius B pool

45:27 ↗ site um and then for a large part of

45:30 ↗ 2022 the city the steering committee

45:32 ↗ that was formed and our consultant NAC

45:35 ↗ architecture has been working on the

45:37 ↗ information being presented to you here

45:39 ↗ tonight uh some items of Interest I

45:41 ↗ wanted to share just before we get into

45:43 ↗ the actual discussion on the topic um

45:46 ↗ you know water capacity has been in high

45:48 ↗ demand ever since we've owned the pool

45:51 ↗ or the city's been an operational pool

45:52 ↗ we don't city owns the pool we manage

45:54 ↗ the facility

45:56 ↗ uh the amount of water available in 1972

45:59 ↗ is the same amount of water we have in

46:01 ↗ 2023 so the actual space we have is the

46:04 ↗ same as one it was constructed um since

46:07 ↗ the took City took over the operation of

46:08 ↗ julus bone pool um the cost recovery is

46:12 ↗ much stronger than it was at the time

46:13 ↗ that we took it over so um over time

46:16 ↗ we've continued to recover more and more

46:18 ↗ of the cost to operate that

46:20 ↗ facility um programmatically the city

46:23 ↗ runs a robust learn to swim program

46:26 ↗ Community programs open swim and water

46:29 ↗ safety training

46:30 ↗ programs um along with that we support

46:33 ↗ uh the aquatics facility supports three

46:35 ↗ High School swim teams and the isqua

46:38 ↗ swim

46:39 ↗ team the goal of the pool feasibility

46:41 ↗ study was to uh just a reminder was to

46:43 ↗ explore the feasibility of the cost

46:45 ↗ effective option for expanding capacity

46:47 ↗ on the existing site and to build on the

46:49 ↗ improvements that were made to the

46:51 ↗ facility in

46:53 ↗ 2015 um before we enter into anything I

46:55 ↗ want want to give a big hearty thank you

46:57 ↗ to our Consultants with n architecture

47:00 ↗ all the people that took part in this

47:02 ↗ because they spent a lot of time this

47:03 ↗ year discussing it and having you know

47:05 ↗ helping put together what's going to be

47:07 ↗ presented to you tonight so with that

47:09 ↗ I'm happy to turn the presentation over

47:11 ↗ to Brooke and uh Brian um with NAC

47:14 ↗ architecture who will introduce

47:16 ↗ themselves and also share the work that

47:17 ↗ we've done this

47:19 ↗ year thanks Brian I appreciate that H hi

47:22 ↗ everybody uh I'm Brooke and you can go

47:25 ↗ to the next slide if you want to and

47:28 ↗ you'll see our our lovely photos here

47:30 ↗ but uh I'm Brooke Hanley I'm an

47:32 ↗ architect and planner with na AC

47:34 ↗ architecture and um worked on multiple

47:37 ↗ feasibility studies here um and I let

47:40 ↗ Brian introduce himself my name is Brian

47:44 ↗ love I'm also an architect here with NAC

47:46 ↗ architecture at least my role in this

47:48 ↗ project was more as the design

47:51 ↗ lead go to the next slide see we have

47:54 ↗ other team members that joined us to add

47:56 ↗ their expertise for the study those were

47:58 ↗ Ryan Niner uh who was with watertech

48:01 ↗ Incorporated and he was our pool

48:03 ↗ specialist we also had Ken Ballard at

48:05 ↗ Ballard King Associates and he did the

48:07 ↗ demographic and market analysis as well

48:09 ↗ as the operational analysis um because

48:12 ↗ this study was uh very interested in

48:15 ↗ understanding what a feasible design

48:16 ↗ could be as well as the costs that could

48:19 ↗ arise from that design we did include

48:21 ↗ some other Consultants to be able to

48:23 ↗ understand aspects of the uh mitting and

48:26 ↗ design of the building and so we had a

48:27 ↗ civil consultant and then of course we

48:29 ↗ wanted to be realistic about numbers so

48:30 ↗ we did have an estimator join us as

48:34 ↗ well you can go on goad and go to the

48:37 ↗ next and we want to give a big thank you

48:40 ↗ uh to our steering committee who was um

48:42 ↗ put together by the city and parks and

48:44 ↗ wreck and so we had uh representatives

48:47 ↗ from Parks and recre parks and Community

48:49 ↗ Services um city of isqua planning

48:53 ↗ administrative Services isqua School SCH

48:55 ↗ District swim teams uh Etc so we had a

48:58 ↗ pretty good range of people uh giving us

49:01 ↗ input along the way as Brian said over

49:03 ↗ the last six months or

49:05 ↗ so next

49:09 ↗ slide uh just really quickly about the

49:11 ↗ feasibility process there are multiple

49:14 ↗ steps involved um all of these items

49:17 ↗ we'll talk a little bit about today and

49:19 ↗ we have a limited amount of time so uh

49:22 ↗ one way that we've basically

49:26 ↗ uh summarize all these things as into

49:28 ↗ three different tasks and so we'll go on

49:32 ↗ to the next slide and and jump into all

49:35 ↗ these items so our first task is really

49:38 ↗ understanding isqua water needs and the

49:40 ↗ project goals for expanding access to

49:44 ↗ water on the existing site next

49:48 ↗ slide and so um as Brian said early on

49:52 ↗ it's you've had the same amount of water

49:54 ↗ for the since 1970s and so uh how has

49:58 ↗ that changed based on the uh the primary

50:02 ↗ and secondary Market areas and so the

50:04 ↗ primary market area is the city of isqua

50:08 ↗ and then we've included the isqua school

50:10 ↗ district as the secondary Market

50:13 ↗ sector basically uh Ballard King goes

50:16 ↗ through the esri database and makes

50:20 ↗ these graphs and talks about the

50:22 ↗ population and the

50:24 ↗ demographics and all the key facts and

50:27 ↗ indicators that would tell you um you

50:31 ↗ know do you need you it basically

50:33 ↗ confirms that Isam needs needs more

50:35 ↗ water area to serve the population

50:37 ↗ that's grown next

50:41 ↗ slide this is just another graph of some

50:44 ↗ of those key facts which include um

50:47 ↗ demographics about education business

50:50 ↗ employment um income uh makeup of

50:54 ↗ households things like that and that all

50:56 ↗ factors into their final report um which

51:01 ↗ is many pages long and will be in our

51:03 ↗ final report uh if you would like to

51:05 ↗ read it next

51:10 ↗ slide and I feel like Brian just really

51:12 ↗ told the point so so well that there is

51:15 ↗ a really high demand for uh the existing

51:18 ↗ water area at the julus bone pool and I

51:20 ↗ think the reason for it is because you

51:22 ↗ have so many different programs that are

51:23 ↗ trying to compete for that space and

51:25 ↗ it's used by people across that

51:26 ↗ demographic range it's used by the very

51:28 ↗ young and the learn to swim programs

51:30 ↗ people engage in water safety programs

51:33 ↗ uh people in in school that are that are

51:35 ↗ in competitive swim teams and the people

51:37 ↗ that are Recreation swimming as they

51:38 ↗ enter later life um and so really it's

51:40 ↗ just how do you distribute a scarce

51:42 ↗ resource and there's so much competition

51:44 ↗ for it now there's a demand to be able

51:46 ↗ to increase the water area there's that

51:48 ↗ is supported by the market

51:50 ↗ analysis go and go on to the

51:54 ↗ next

51:56 ↗ and so the purpose of this feasibility

51:58 ↗ study was was targeted in that it looked

52:00 ↗ at well if there is going to be an

52:02 ↗ expansion how are we able to expand and

52:05 ↗ add on to the existing Julius bone pool

52:08 ↗ to be able to make the best use of that

52:10 ↗ resource and expand the water area of

52:13 ↗ that building um additionally with that

52:16 ↗ expansion the idea is to be able to

52:18 ↗ create this amenity that can continue to

52:20 ↗ serve all of those different programs

52:22 ↗ that are currently utilizing the

52:24 ↗ existing pool so it's not just for any

52:26 ↗ one specific purpose it's to be able to

52:28 ↗ use it for learn to swim water safety

52:30 ↗ for competition and

52:32 ↗ Recreation go and go on to the

52:35 ↗ next all right so that was our task

52:39 ↗ number one understanding all of that and

52:41 ↗ then moving on to task number two we did

52:44 ↗ an existing site assessment to um look

52:47 ↗ at the quality of the existing building

52:50 ↗ and really review the opportunities for

52:51 ↗ expansion on the site so you can move to

52:54 ↗ the next slide

52:56 ↗ um some of you are probably very

52:58 ↗ familiar with this building but um it's

53:00 ↗ it's actually in really good shape and

53:02 ↗ uh so we just we took a tour we had um

53:06 ↗ WTI evaluate all the existing pool

53:09 ↗ systems and um it's it's really in

53:12 ↗ pretty good shape for its age let going

53:14 ↗ to move on to the next

53:16 ↗ Slide the key points again it's in good

53:20 ↗ condition um there was some money spent

53:22 ↗ on it in 2015 that is really prolonged

53:25 ↗ the life of the pool there is um room on

53:29 ↗ the site for an ex a reasonably sized

53:33 ↗ expansion to the West uh and it's

53:36 ↗ relatively flat there so a new building

53:38 ↗ wouldn't be out of the question uh the

53:41 ↗ previous locker rooms were expanded and

53:44 ↗ will actually support most of the new

53:46 ↗ Plumbing fixture counts that are needed

53:49 ↗ uh with this new addition of

53:51 ↗ water the uh existing door opening which

53:54 ↗ you can actually we see in this photo

53:56 ↗ here it's yeah thank you it's covered

53:59 ↗ with an an Overhead Door uh could

54:01 ↗ actually be taken off and used as the

54:04 ↗ future connection to a new

54:07 ↗ addition uh one last item that we

54:09 ↗ discovered during the study was that

54:11 ↗ fire sprinklers will be required

54:13 ↗ throughout the facility including the

54:15 ↗ existing portion um based on rules that

54:19 ↗ are are adopted by the city so that is

54:22 ↗ all covered in our um eventual costess

54:25 ↗ estimates

54:28 ↗ next I'm going to go through the next

54:30 ↗ couple of slides pretty quickly and

54:32 ↗ really the point is just to underscore

54:34 ↗ some of the considerations that we had

54:36 ↗ when it came to thinking about the

54:38 ↗ design and the location for an expansion

54:40 ↗ onto the Julius bone pool because

54:42 ↗ there's there's already an existing

54:44 ↗ context around the Julius bone pool and

54:47 ↗ it would be irresponsible to not

54:48 ↗ acknowledge that and designed the

54:51 ↗ expansion in consideration of that so

54:53 ↗ you know an expansion off to the West

54:55 ↗ would be at that South Gateway into the

54:57 ↗ old town area we did look at a lot of

54:59 ↗ different places on the site where an

55:01 ↗ expansion could be and another area that

55:03 ↗ we did look at was along the east where

55:04 ↗ there's the reneer trail

55:06 ↗ Corridor we go to the

55:09 ↗ next there's also the existing buildings

55:12 ↗ that are around uh the the Julius Boone

55:15 ↗ pool site that would be looking at an

55:16 ↗ addition so we considered where open

55:18 ↗ spaces at and also the different uses

55:21 ↗ that are on the other side of the block

55:22 ↗ away from the pool go on to the next

55:27 ↗ and then this is showing really the

55:28 ↗ circulation of people arriving at the

55:31 ↗ Julius bone pool as well as people that

55:33 ↗ are using one of the other major

55:35 ↗ destinations around the pool which is

55:36 ↗ some of the schools in the area knowing

55:39 ↗ that there can be congestion that

55:40 ↗ happens at specific times of the day at

55:42 ↗ pick up and drop off and we wanted to

55:44 ↗ make sure that any addition to the

55:46 ↗ Julius bone pool would consider that and

55:48 ↗ think about how to add parking and where

55:50 ↗ parking could be used within that lower

55:52 ↗ rinear Trail Corridor area the next

55:57 ↗ so when it came to thinking about an

55:58 ↗ addition off to that West Side we were

56:00 ↗ thinking of well this does become pretty

56:02 ↗ visible from some of the Open Spaces

56:04 ↗ just off of the isqua Creek area as well

56:06 ↗ as that Gateway as we said into the

56:09 ↗ Oldtown area um and it becomes a place

56:12 ↗ that is accessible through that opening

56:14 ↗ that um that Brooke underscored so that

56:18 ↗ with that opening we be able to to use

56:20 ↗ the existing um entry area and the

56:22 ↗ locker rooms and that kind of sequence

56:24 ↗ of

56:25 ↗ through the pool area and then into the

56:27 ↗ addition without duplicating a lot of

56:29 ↗ unnecessary program we could really just

56:31 ↗ focus the study on and a new

56:34 ↗ pool good go to the

56:38 ↗ next and I I love this slide because to

56:40 ↗ me this is underscores how important

56:43 ↗ water is to the city of isqua because

56:44 ↗ it's not just something that ties the

56:46 ↗ community together through Recreation

56:49 ↗ through socialization through that you

56:50 ↗ know that Community Building seeing

56:52 ↗ youth participate in these events uh the

56:55 ↗ Julius bone pool is it's it's a say a

56:59 ↗ subtle monument in the downtown area you

57:01 ↗ see it from the commercial area through

57:03 ↗ the trees that kind of clarist story

57:05 ↗ those windows that you have that are

57:06 ↗ facing north along the pool and because

57:09 ↗ of the colors I think it really stands

57:10 ↗ out within the community and an addition

57:13 ↗ could be something that also looks back

57:15 ↗ under the Community and some of those

57:16 ↗ features in isqua that are um more

57:19 ↗ significant like for example as you see

57:21 ↗ on the bottom right you know the isqua

57:23 ↗ creek as well as the isqua s and

57:25 ↗ Hatchery go on to the

57:29 ↗ next so we did look at a couple

57:31 ↗ different options here early on in the

57:33 ↗ study to consider um what is the maximum

57:37 ↗ amount of water we could add and maybe

57:38 ↗ what's uh a little bit a smaller version

57:41 ↗ and so we have two here uh which

57:44 ↗ basically eight Lane 25 yard pools uh

57:48 ↗ the one on your left is just the eight

57:51 ↗ Lane 25 yard and it would uh create in

57:55 ↗ addition that's about 12 and a half

57:57 ↗ th000 Square ft and then the one on the

57:59 ↗ right is actually called a stretch pool

58:02 ↗ so it would have that additional water

58:04 ↗ to the north that could be shallow or

58:08 ↗ deep water um but it has a movable

58:10 ↗ bulkhead that could change the shape of

58:13 ↗ the pool for different programming uses

58:16 ↗ that does create a little bit larger

58:18 ↗ addition at almost 17 or a little over

58:20 ↗ 17 A5 thousand square F feet again this

58:23 ↗ is um attached

58:25 ↗ directly basically to the existing

58:27 ↗ building and so there's some

58:29 ↗ efficiencies there to be had with

58:31 ↗ circulation and moving back and forth

58:33 ↗ between the locker rooms um we can move

58:37 ↗ on to the next

58:39 ↗ one next so this slide shows what those

58:44 ↗ two uh building forms could look like

58:47 ↗ next to the existing building uh you can

58:49 ↗ see the the new building is sort of

58:51 ↗ there off to the right of the existing

58:53 ↗ and each each each option here and the

58:56 ↗ the Searing committee um gave us

58:58 ↗ feedback that they really felt like the

59:00 ↗ smaller version on the left was actually

59:04 ↗ more in keeping with the context and

59:06 ↗ with the site um as it is today versus

59:09 ↗ the larger one on the right

59:14 ↗ next a couple other options we looked at

59:17 ↗ were in in an effort to explore some

59:21 ↗ cost savings measures so uh we looked at

59:24 ↗ some alternative enclosures that could

59:27 ↗ be substituted for the traditional uh

59:30 ↗ CMU or concrete masonry unit

59:33 ↗ um e expansion that we showed in the

59:36 ↗ previous version so a couple of those

59:38 ↗ are the Dome structure which is actually

59:39 ↗ an operable it opens up in the

59:41 ↗ summertime to the sky which was an

59:44 ↗ intriguing idea um and then also this

59:48 ↗ sprung structure that's on the right

59:50 ↗ here is a a

59:52 ↗ tensile tent um with

59:55 ↗ essentially aluminum frame structure

59:57 ↗ it's a potentially a cheaper option but

1:00:00 ↗ maybe didn't have the desired aesthetic

1:00:03 ↗ that the group was looking for and so we

1:00:05 ↗ essentially uh went back and said you

1:00:09 ↗ know what are the costs of everything

1:00:10 ↗ which we'll get into in a minute um but

1:00:13 ↗ really the traditional construction type

1:00:16 ↗ was the preferred method and it just fit

1:00:19 ↗ in a little bit better with the existing

1:00:21 ↗ you can go to the next slide and we'll

1:00:23 ↗ take a look at that

1:00:26 ↗ yeah so here we have the on the left

1:00:29 ↗ hand side we have a more detailed floor

1:00:32 ↗ plan that captures some of the planning

1:00:34 ↗ from the stakeholder group and then off

1:00:36 ↗ to the right we have what that would

1:00:38 ↗ what that could I'll use that term what

1:00:40 ↗ that could look like um from uh that

1:00:43 ↗ Front Street area so uh what you have

1:00:46 ↗ off to the left is that as Brook had

1:00:48 ↗ commented on the eight Lane 25 yard pool

1:00:51 ↗ uh spectator area that could have

1:00:53 ↗ folding bleachers to provide a larger

1:00:55 ↗ deck area off to the right of the pool

1:00:58 ↗ um of course that larger deck area

1:00:59 ↗ behind the blocks on the north of the

1:01:02 ↗ top part of the pool as well as maybe

1:01:04 ↗ even the ability to expand outside since

1:01:07 ↗ you know during competitions I don't I

1:01:09 ↗ don't think it hurts to have a little

1:01:10 ↗ bit of extra room as people begin to

1:01:11 ↗ pile up and line up behind those blocks

1:01:14 ↗ and then the other areas that you're

1:01:15 ↗ seeing that have labels in them those

1:01:17 ↗ are a lot of the support areas that are

1:01:18 ↗ needed just for the operation of the

1:01:20 ↗ pool and the maintenance of the new

1:01:22 ↗ building um and then to the right again

1:01:25 ↗ what that could look like um something

1:01:27 ↗ that you will notice is a bit of a

1:01:29 ↗ difference from the existing building

1:01:31 ↗ although we have tried to keep the

1:01:34 ↗ spirit of the existing building the same

1:01:36 ↗ in terms of the like the overall outline

1:01:39 ↗ of the building so it doesn't look like

1:01:42 ↗ I don't know something alien is tacked

1:01:44 ↗ onto the side of the building um trying

1:01:46 ↗ to have a little bit more windows um

1:01:49 ↗ because we think that that connects

1:01:51 ↗ people inside the building more to the

1:01:52 ↗ natural environment I think that idea of

1:01:54 ↗ connecting people to the outdoors was

1:01:57 ↗ one of the reasons why the um

1:02:00 ↗ stakeholder committee was interested in

1:02:01 ↗ us studying that Dome option and that

1:02:04 ↗ sprung structure because those have the

1:02:06 ↗ ability to connect a lot more to the

1:02:08 ↗ outdoors go on to the

1:02:12 ↗ next and then here we are off to the

1:02:16 ↗ right is the existing Julius bone pool

1:02:18 ↗ and that main entry into uh the existing

1:02:22 ↗ building and what you're seeing in front

1:02:24 ↗ of view is um the addition the expansion

1:02:28 ↗ onto the Julius bone pool and maybe that

1:02:31 ↗ also has an exterior entry that could

1:02:33 ↗ just be used for spectators when there

1:02:35 ↗ are larger events at the pool otherwise

1:02:38 ↗ you would typically go through that

1:02:39 ↗ entry off to the

1:02:41 ↗ right go on to the

1:02:44 ↗ next and now we have just gone through

1:02:47 ↗ that event entry and we have arrived

1:02:48 ↗ inside of the pool and you're looking

1:02:50 ↗ across those eight Lanes through those

1:02:53 ↗ windows to connect you to the outdoors

1:02:56 ↗ to provide a lot of uh natural light

1:02:58 ↗ into the building that could still have

1:03:00 ↗ sun shades to prevent glare on the pool

1:03:03 ↗ surface you have some skylights above

1:03:06 ↗ you off to the right again to give that

1:03:07 ↗ sense of openness and connection to the

1:03:09 ↗ outdoors that'll make this feel like a

1:03:11 ↗ really welcoming place to recreate and

1:03:15 ↗ compete and uh the next view we're going

1:03:17 ↗ to look at we're actually going to go to

1:03:18 ↗ the other side of the pool and we're

1:03:20 ↗ going to look back at the way that we're

1:03:22 ↗ currently standing so if we go on to the

1:03:24 ↗ next

1:03:25 ↗ yep again we're looking now back to the

1:03:27 ↗ East and that area that has that kind of

1:03:31 ↗ salmon colored wall off to the left yes

1:03:35 ↗ exactly where the hand is at now that's

1:03:37 ↗ that um connection back into the Julius

1:03:40 ↗ bone pool that Brook it talked about

1:03:42 ↗ earlier so that's the way that those two

1:03:44 ↗ pools connect together and let you have

1:03:47 ↗ access from one into the

1:03:50 ↗ other we go on to the

1:03:53 ↗ next

1:03:55 ↗ all right so we wanted

1:03:57 ↗ to uh highlight some of the sustainable

1:04:00 ↗ and natural features of this project and

1:04:04 ↗ based on feedback from the steering

1:04:05 ↗ committee uh we highlighted these nine

1:04:10 ↗ items here and so you can take a look at

1:04:13 ↗ this diagram as as anyone would might um

1:04:17 ↗ excuse me as anyone who is uh looking

1:04:20 ↗ into this project could see the features

1:04:22 ↗ that are incorporated into the dis

1:04:24 ↗ design in a very easy to digest uh

1:04:28 ↗ way

1:04:31 ↗ next okay so we're on to the the third

1:04:34 ↗ task here and that's figuring out how

1:04:36 ↗ much the building and operating costs

1:04:38 ↗ would be and so we'll move on to the

1:04:40 ↗ next

1:04:42 ↗ slide um so we took all the options

1:04:45 ↗ including the alternative enclosures and

1:04:47 ↗ we ran those through our um cost

1:04:49 ↗ estimator who did a great job at uh

1:04:53 ↗ giving us pretty accurate cost and this

1:04:55 ↗ is the total project cost which includes

1:04:58 ↗ soft costs like design fee permits sales

1:05:01 ↗ tax uh and furniture and equipment and

1:05:05 ↗ so um for the the CMU building or the

1:05:07 ↗ more traditional uh design this would be

1:05:11 ↗ the cost for that and th it also

1:05:13 ↗ includes a little bit of escalation for

1:05:16 ↗ uh a couple of years um since this

1:05:19 ↗ project is not you know close to being

1:05:20 ↗ shovel ready at this point we wanted to

1:05:22 ↗ include some buffer to get you a little

1:05:25 ↗ bit closer to the

1:05:26 ↗ Future um the other two options that we

1:05:29 ↗ looked at were here and you can see that

1:05:31 ↗ the the D enclosure was actually a

1:05:33 ↗ little bit more than traditional

1:05:34 ↗ construction and the sprung structure

1:05:36 ↗ was a little bit less but not a not

1:05:39 ↗ enough to maybe um to sway the the

1:05:43 ↗ committee to think that that was a

1:05:44 ↗ better um aesthetic for the project

1:05:50 ↗ next um and then the final um business

1:05:53 ↗ and operations analysis was done by

1:05:55 ↗ Ballard

1:05:56 ↗ King and uh they worked with the city

1:05:59 ↗ staff to understand the existing

1:06:01 ↗ facilities operations and the future

1:06:05 ↗ operations assumptions were based on um

1:06:07 ↗ expanded operations potentially

1:06:09 ↗ happening sometime in 2026 or

1:06:11 ↗ later so um the business and operations

1:06:15 ↗ looks at the expenses versus the revenue

1:06:18 ↗ um from the added nitorum to the overall

1:06:21 ↗ facility and actually came up with a

1:06:23 ↗ pretty great cost recovery rate of about

1:06:26 ↗ 98% and you know that depends on the

1:06:30 ↗ programs that are offered and the and

1:06:31 ↗ the the cost of those programs for

1:06:34 ↗ participants um but at the current rates

1:06:37 ↗ this is a very good potential to add to

1:06:40 ↗ this

1:06:42 ↗ project

1:06:44 ↗ next and just a touch on the current

1:06:46 ↗ status of the report itself um a draft

1:06:49 ↗ report is in the hands of that

1:06:50 ↗ stakeholder committee that Brooke

1:06:52 ↗ introduced at the beginning of this

1:06:53 ↗ presid presentation and this group as

1:06:56 ↗ well this um board has been sent a copy

1:06:58 ↗ as well for consideration we're looking

1:06:59 ↗ for feedback to be able to incorporate

1:07:01 ↗ this into something that um can be

1:07:04 ↗ supported and that is final can be

1:07:06 ↗ published we go on to the

1:07:10 ↗ next with that in mind we will take your

1:07:13 ↗ questions and appreciate you uh

1:07:15 ↗ listening to our progress so far yes

1:07:20 ↗ Jeff just I just want to give a quick

1:07:24 ↗ thank you I'm getting choked up here uh

1:07:27 ↗ Brian and Brooke thank you for that

1:07:29 ↗ presentation uh Brian Bernson thanks for

1:07:32 ↗ again your leadership with the steering

1:07:34 ↗ uh committee group uh I just I I guess I

1:07:36 ↗ want to really emphasize with a fine

1:07:38 ↗ point parkboard uh this is just the

1:07:41 ↗ start of a conversation and as Brian

1:07:44 ↗ said um really the intent of this work

1:07:47 ↗ um was to build upon the 2009 study um

1:07:51 ↗ and also build upon the Investments that

1:07:53 ↗ were made with that 2013 Park Bond uh

1:07:56 ↗ those of you park board members that

1:07:58 ↗ were around might recall in late 2021 22

1:08:01 ↗ when we let you all know we were going

1:08:03 ↗ to apply for some uh King County Grant

1:08:05 ↗ funds to do this feasibility study uh we

1:08:08 ↗ really felt like we were at a point uh

1:08:11 ↗ that um with a a fourth potential High

1:08:13 ↗ School coming soon we didn't want to be

1:08:16 ↗ on our heels uh but we really wanted to

1:08:19 ↗ explore what is the a realistic

1:08:22 ↗ costeffective way to to even consider

1:08:25 ↗ expansion um um on the existing bone

1:08:29 ↗ site so uh this study is not intended to

1:08:32 ↗ be a recommendation it's really meant to

1:08:35 ↗ accomplish just This Is it feasible and

1:08:38 ↗ and I think what we'll see and look

1:08:39 ↗ forward to hearing your conversations

1:08:41 ↗ there is some feasibility and and now it

1:08:45 ↗ really um May head us into a a a a

1:08:48 ↗ further Direction in 2024 of how might

1:08:52 ↗ we financially U make something like

1:08:54 ↗ this happen um another quick note um and

1:08:57 ↗ why this conversation will be really

1:08:58 ↗ helpful tonight uh we'll be presenting

1:09:01 ↗ this to the uh city council committee

1:09:03 ↗ the park services and Safety Committee

1:09:05 ↗ um on December 11th um so really welcome

1:09:09 ↗ your thoughts feedback questions um I'll

1:09:12 ↗ hold there I do have a couple based on

1:09:15 ↗ Connie's public comment a couple

1:09:17 ↗ thoughts about uh funding strategy uh

1:09:20 ↗ some conversations that we've had uh

1:09:22 ↗ with King County over the not just years

1:09:24 ↗ but really decades that they uh sort of

1:09:27 ↗ um decided that pools were suddenly a

1:09:30 ↗ local service and not a regional service

1:09:32 ↗ but I'll I'll hold those thoughts for

1:09:34 ↗ after your

1:09:44 ↗ feedback so are you guys just uh

1:09:47 ↗ breaking down like the current Julie's b

1:09:50 ↗ as well as adding like another section

1:09:51 ↗ to it or just adding another section

1:09:53 ↗ already like on the

1:09:57 ↗ J it would be in addition to the

1:10:00 ↗ existing site so it would be a whole

1:10:01 ↗ another eight Lanes 25 yards added to

1:10:04 ↗ the west side of the facility would it

1:10:06 ↗ just be like those just those Lanes or I

1:10:10 ↗ know that the current Julie has like

1:10:12 ↗ they have those uh Lan and then they

1:10:14 ↗ have like a small other like tiny pool

1:10:16 ↗ would it be like a kind of

1:10:18 ↗ replic no it it's it's that but without

1:10:21 ↗ the extra little shallow that little uh

1:10:23 ↗ shallow with the bulkhead and the

1:10:24 ↗ shallow end it would just be currently

1:10:26 ↗ we have six Lanes the other would have

1:10:29 ↗ eight lanes and it just be eight Lanes

1:10:31 ↗ with no what they called that what you

1:10:33 ↗ call that uh Brook and extended stretch

1:10:36 ↗ Str Str we have a stretch P right six

1:10:39 ↗ Lanes with that uh extended area past

1:10:42 ↗ with the bulkhead in that little area

1:10:44 ↗ the new area will be eight Lanes with no

1:10:46 ↗ extended area really broad context

1:10:49 ↗ Brooke Brian does in essence this

1:10:51 ↗ proposed eight Lanes almost double the

1:10:53 ↗ water capacity um of the current six

1:10:56 ↗ lane pool so so this is a in essence

1:10:59 ↗ doubling of of

1:11:01 ↗ water right

1:11:05 ↗ exactly you want to get

1:11:09 ↗ Nas I see marleene then Nicholas and

1:11:12 ↗ then

1:11:15 ↗ Brad all right thanks you guys that was

1:11:18 ↗ a really um thorough presentation so I

1:11:20 ↗ really appreciate all the work that went

1:11:22 ↗ into the study I have a clarifying

1:11:24 ↗ questions and then maybe just some

1:11:26 ↗ things to think about my first one I

1:11:28 ↗ think it was said in the very beginning

1:11:30 ↗ there was like a quote about like

1:11:32 ↗ between 1974 until now we have not had

1:11:35 ↗ more water is that did I hear that

1:11:39 ↗ correctly like what was the stat there

1:11:42 ↗ because I feel like you know honestly

1:11:44 ↗ like leading with an infographic that's

1:11:45 ↗ like the population is x% bigger and the

1:11:48 ↗ water growth is

1:11:50 ↗ y% is you know like you kind of burying

1:11:53 ↗ the lead a little bit like that's a huge

1:11:56 ↗ like can you repeat to me what that fact

1:11:58 ↗ was I think that was Brian's intro yeah

1:12:02 ↗ yeah yeah no that was just just a

1:12:04 ↗ statement that the the water that the

1:12:06 ↗ water the pool that was built in

1:12:08 ↗ 1972 in essence is the same pool that we

1:12:10 ↗ have today yeah like honestly like I

1:12:13 ↗ don't think public I don't think the

1:12:14 ↗ public understands

1:12:16 ↗ that like what what did you say the

1:12:18 ↗ population was like 3,000 or something

1:12:20 ↗ crazy yeah approximately 3,000 when it

1:12:23 ↗ was built in

1:12:24 ↗ 1972 and what is the population now that

1:12:26 ↗ we're

1:12:28 ↗ quoting 40,000 40 40 40,000 41 somewhere

1:12:32 ↗ around there right

1:12:36 ↗ yeah when we think about funding and

1:12:38 ↗ like selling this maybe this is the

1:12:39 ↗ marketing coming out in me but it's like

1:12:42 ↗ you got to lead with stuff like that

1:12:44 ↗ like we're like when I moved here just

1:12:45 ↗ to give you guys context I was like

1:12:47 ↗ shocked at our pool amenities like

1:12:50 ↗ they're really sad and I'm really sad

1:12:53 ↗ that all we're saying we want to do is

1:12:55 ↗ add like six more

1:12:56 ↗ Lanes like I'll be honest it doesn't it

1:12:58 ↗ doesn't keep track with what I see

1:13:00 ↗ happening at least in other places in

1:13:02 ↗ the country I don't know enough about

1:13:03 ↗ the different places in Washington to

1:13:05 ↗ know if it holds but it's really poor

1:13:09 ↗ I'll I'll I'll respond to that maybe

1:13:11 ↗ after additional comments because there

1:13:13 ↗ really is some important context into

1:13:15 ↗ what's happened in this County and going

1:13:17 ↗ all the way back to the 70s 80s and then

1:13:20 ↗ 2003 with the county basically plopping

1:13:23 ↗ pools and cities feet so um I can give a

1:13:26 ↗ little bit more of that history as to

1:13:28 ↗ don't take it as like a blame on isqua

1:13:30 ↗ like I'm not trying to like beg on

1:13:32 ↗ anything that anybody's done it's just

1:13:34 ↗ it was very shocking to me to come here

1:13:36 ↗ and be like really this is what we've

1:13:38 ↗ got so um and again it's not a bag on

1:13:41 ↗ the community at all it's just more like

1:13:44 ↗ are we setting I guess when I when I

1:13:46 ↗ look at this I'm like are we setting our

1:13:47 ↗ sights big

1:13:49 ↗ enough I guess that's sort of like my

1:13:51 ↗ overarching feeling about this and I

1:13:53 ↗ know like we're you know kind of in a

1:13:55 ↗ recession maybe we are maybe we aren't

1:13:57 ↗ people can debate that uh money's tight

1:14:00 ↗ but man

1:14:02 ↗ like question all we're talking about

1:14:05 ↗ right now is lanes and I guess my the

1:14:07 ↗ thing for me about lanes and I get it

1:14:09 ↗ but a very I think a pretty small

1:14:11 ↗ proportion of our

1:14:13 ↗ population uses the lanes in comparison

1:14:15 ↗ to the other amenities around the parks

1:14:17 ↗ and maybe I'm wrong about that but I

1:14:18 ↗ would love to know the details around

1:14:20 ↗ that I'm really curious about like

1:14:23 ↗ you know we're taking out like sort of

1:14:25 ↗ that stretch that I'm guessing would be

1:14:26 ↗ for families to want to use and more

1:14:30 ↗ recreational I really liked that idea

1:14:32 ↗ about what was that outdoor structure

1:14:34 ↗ right like that has like you know I'd be

1:14:37 ↗ curious about why we made a decision

1:14:38 ↗ like not to recommend to have indoor

1:14:40 ↗ outdoor if that was a possibility um

1:14:43 ↗ there's just a lot of sort of left on

1:14:45 ↗ the table just to focus on what I would

1:14:47 ↗ call like lap swim here

1:14:50 ↗ versus I guess a real Community amenity

1:14:54 ↗ so I do want to address the depth of the

1:14:56 ↗ pool uh the existing pool at on on the

1:15:01 ↗ existing pool is about three and a half

1:15:02 ↗ feet deep in the shallow wind and this

1:15:04 ↗ pool could be um three and a half to

1:15:06 ↗ four feet deep on the shallow wind and

1:15:08 ↗ then it's currently programmed to go

1:15:10 ↗ down to about seven feet in the deep end

1:15:12 ↗ but that's the depth that's required for

1:15:14 ↗ starting

1:15:16 ↗ blocks so it's still familyfriendly on

1:15:19 ↗ the shallow wind

1:15:22 ↗ side but you know what I want

1:15:29 ↗ Jeff Splash just Zero

1:15:32 ↗ Entry you know the things that real

1:15:35 ↗ families

1:15:37 ↗ want like I said before this is not a

1:15:40 ↗ recommendation this is really saying

1:15:42 ↗ what

1:15:44 ↗ again as as a city as a department that

1:15:48 ↗ again is

1:15:49 ↗ is I don't feel like you're throwing

1:15:51 ↗ shade on us what we're we're in a county

1:15:53 ↗ we're in an area that the

1:15:55 ↗ aquatics it's an Aquatics conundrum

1:15:58 ↗ that's been in the making for 40 years

1:16:01 ↗ and rather than aspiring only to a new

1:16:06 ↗ facility that might cost us well would

1:16:09 ↗ cost us in in this day's dollars

1:16:11 ↗ assuming we have land and we're not

1:16:12 ↗ needing to buy it would cost us 5060

1:16:17 ↗ million um do we want to consider um or

1:16:21 ↗ at least understand what is what is the

1:16:24 ↗ most practical costeffective way we

1:16:26 ↗ might at least be able to to add water

1:16:30 ↗ understanding

1:16:31 ↗ how how much of a deficit we're in when

1:16:34 ↗ it comes to and how overprescribed we

1:16:36 ↗ are uh with that with that

1:16:38 ↗ pool yeah and please don't take like

1:16:41 ↗ what I'm saying as like any sort of

1:16:42 ↗ bague on the work the committee has done

1:16:44 ↗ like I think I want to you know if what

1:16:46 ↗ we can do is the six lane pool like I

1:16:48 ↗ get it like we all all got to work

1:16:49 ↗ within a budget and we've all got to

1:16:51 ↗ work it and I think anything we can get

1:16:53 ↗ for the community is amazing so I'm

1:16:54 ↗ excited about whatever we decide to do I

1:16:57 ↗ just I guess I'm just going to push us

1:16:58 ↗ to say like is there anything different

1:17:01 ↗ that we could think about or is there

1:17:03 ↗ any way to put anything that adds a that

1:17:05 ↗ increases the amount of people who would

1:17:08 ↗ use the pool Beyond just lap swimmers

1:17:12 ↗ yeah it's really really

1:17:19 ↗ good Nichol that answer your question

1:17:21 ↗ Mar are you pretty good

1:17:23 ↗ yeah I think but I'm just telling you

1:17:25 ↗ guys like you got a lead with

1:17:27 ↗ like that I was shocked to hear that

1:17:29 ↗ like that that and maybe I don't know

1:17:31 ↗ but like that that intro was like really

1:17:34 ↗ it's the same since the 1970s like most

1:17:37 ↗ of the people on this call probably

1:17:38 ↗ weren't even alive

1:17:42 ↗ then yeah and I will I will add to just

1:17:44 ↗ what Jeff was saying too that we from

1:17:46 ↗ our 2009 study you know that had six

1:17:49 ↗ different options some of those options

1:17:51 ↗ went up into like the 40 Mill millions

1:17:53 ↗ and I think the some of the options that

1:17:55 ↗ were chosen or preferred were very

1:17:57 ↗ expensive options that ended up being a

1:17:59 ↗ little cost prohibitive in moving

1:18:01 ↗ forward so that's where the practicality

1:18:02 ↗ and cost effectiveness of this model was

1:18:05 ↗ eight Lanes in the discussion with the

1:18:07 ↗ steering committee was eight Lanes can

1:18:09 ↗ be used yes for lap swimming it can used

1:18:11 ↗ for learn to swim lessons it can be used

1:18:13 ↗ for uh High School swim meets it could

1:18:16 ↗ be used for um isqua swim team swim

1:18:19 ↗ meets and it can also be used for um

1:18:21 ↗ special events because a lot planes can

1:18:23 ↗ be taken down and that that space can be

1:18:25 ↗ reconfigured so we saw it as the best

1:18:27 ↗ multi-use space for an

1:18:30 ↗ addition that would hopefully fall

1:18:32 ↗ within a realm of reasonable cost

1:18:37 ↗ Effectiveness

1:18:39 ↗ like I think it's exciting I'm thrilled

1:18:41 ↗ to death with it I would of course go

1:18:43 ↗ with the larger water space um because

1:18:46 ↗ I'm not paying for

1:18:48 ↗ it are we all are true H swim swim meats

1:18:53 ↗ are crazy as you of all people

1:18:56 ↗ know and I would like to see the walls

1:18:59 ↗ move movable so because the crowds get

1:19:01 ↗ insane and they want to go out and they

1:19:03 ↗ want to sit in the picnic areas and

1:19:04 ↗ while their kids aren't swimming and uh

1:19:07 ↗ I I saw you could had doors but do the

1:19:11 ↗ walls open and can people fall that

1:19:13 ↗ direction take it out so they they set

1:19:15 ↗ their picnics up and oh those to sort of

1:19:18 ↗ flow out into that that natural grass

1:19:21 ↗ area outside of see that being utilized

1:19:24 ↗ once again in concept right this is not

1:19:26 ↗ the definitive final it's just it's yes

1:19:28 ↗ it's feasible this is what it could look

1:19:30 ↗ like there's a long ways between what it

1:19:32 ↗ would actually end up being and really

1:19:35 ↗ really exciting you did talk about the

1:19:37 ↗ traffic flow around it and I thought

1:19:38 ↗ about parking because I don't know what

1:19:40 ↗ your population is now that come in

1:19:42 ↗ there I know it's full all the time but

1:19:44 ↗ are we doubling that and where are we

1:19:46 ↗ going to put all those cars and how are

1:19:48 ↗ we going to deal with all that and sure

1:19:51 ↗ the committee has looked into that

1:19:57 ↗ yep um we have

1:20:00 ↗ Nicholas couple people on online

1:20:06 ↗ waiting should I go yep go ahead

1:20:09 ↗ Nicholas okay um I appreciate this

1:20:13 ↗ conversation uh 1988 I had my third

1:20:16 ↗ third grade birthday party at this

1:20:18 ↗ swimming pool at bomes uh in 2020 my son

1:20:22 ↗ Maxim had his third grade birthday party

1:20:24 ↗ in the same water in Bones uh both my

1:20:27 ↗ sisters swam and died for Liberty High

1:20:29 ↗ School Swim Club at bones pool uh this

1:20:32 ↗ pool is a cultural icon uh I think we

1:20:35 ↗ said that in the presentation about you

1:20:38 ↗ can see it around the city is kind of

1:20:39 ↗ one of our high points right and it does

1:20:42 ↗ um attract some attention although I

1:20:43 ↗ don't know if people would know what it

1:20:45 ↗ is when they look at it it kind of looks

1:20:46 ↗ like a barn or something sitting up

1:20:48 ↗ there in the hanging up in the trees so

1:20:51 ↗ um this is a I'm excited that we're even

1:20:53 ↗ talking about this I had no idea this

1:20:55 ↗ was something that was on our purview uh

1:20:58 ↗ when I was on the Parkinson Trails

1:20:59 ↗ commission for the City of Redmond we

1:21:00 ↗ attempted this with knack's help nac's

1:21:03 ↗ help um or at least they were part of

1:21:04 ↗ the multi facility feasibility or

1:21:07 ↗ facility condition index

1:21:10 ↗ study um and what we try to do is wrap

1:21:12 ↗ the pool together with the community

1:21:15 ↗ center and the senior center Improvement

1:21:17 ↗ project was about a 100 million and you

1:21:20 ↗ know we were looking to do something

1:21:21 ↗ like they did up in Lynwood so if you

1:21:23 ↗ guys all want to go online and check out

1:21:25 ↗ you know what Lynwood did um to their

1:21:28 ↗ Aquatic and Community Center fitness

1:21:31 ↗ center was it's amazing right that's

1:21:32 ↗ what everybody wants but how you get you

1:21:35 ↗ know that kind of an investment

1:21:37 ↗ across the street from each other here

1:21:39 ↗ with the right kind of land and stuff I

1:21:41 ↗ have no idea um Redmond bid off more

1:21:44 ↗ than they could chew they had to

1:21:45 ↗ prioritize we only had so much Bond

1:21:47 ↗ capacity and so to your point uh we

1:21:50 ↗ started value engineering we back down

1:21:52 ↗ from the you know the Zero Entry kind of

1:21:55 ↗ you know all the niceties that you want

1:21:56 ↗ to have inside of a community amenity

1:21:58 ↗ and ended up with the Hartman pool just

1:22:00 ↗ getting uh that kind of lame renovation

1:22:02 ↗ that's currently actually underway right

1:22:04 ↗ now or just finished I think um like the

1:22:06 ↗ isqua pool did quite some time ago so it

1:22:09 ↗ looks like you get shiny tiles again uh

1:22:11 ↗ but no extra capacity no extra amenities

1:22:15 ↗ um so I just I think it's great is this

1:22:18 ↗ is a competitive uh or comparative

1:22:20 ↗ advantage for the city of isqua it's one

1:22:21 ↗ of those econom benefit measurement you

1:22:24 ↗ know that or benefit ads to the city

1:22:27 ↗ like we were talking about in the

1:22:28 ↗ Strategic uh plan uh so I just think

1:22:31 ↗ it's wonderful that we're talking about

1:22:33 ↗ it I would support a much higher Bond

1:22:36 ↗ personally for something of this

1:22:39 ↗ nature um because I do think it's

1:22:41 ↗ important that it grows U not only in

1:22:43 ↗ size but in its stature and

1:22:46 ↗ attraction um yeah so just good to see

1:22:48 ↗ everybody here again and what a surprise

1:22:50 ↗ glad I came tonight super

1:22:54 ↗ cool thank you that was

1:22:57 ↗ great did Brad have his hand raised Brad

1:23:01 ↗ go ahead I do Chris um so I do think

1:23:05 ↗ it's good for us to be talking about

1:23:06 ↗ this I guess I have a lot of thoughts

1:23:08 ↗ about it uh one is um you know since

1:23:11 ↗ we're really just kind of talking about

1:23:13 ↗ feasibility it seems like it'd be nice

1:23:15 ↗ to open up the box here to some other

1:23:17 ↗ Alternatives so that if this really does

1:23:20 ↗ come down to a ballot me or who knows

1:23:23 ↗ what you know the community can weigh in

1:23:25 ↗ on on maybe some other options than this

1:23:29 ↗ you know one of my concerns with this

1:23:31 ↗ particular area is is it's so congested

1:23:34 ↗ there and and by adding additional

1:23:37 ↗ capacity just adds that much more

1:23:40 ↗ traffic uh and our ability to control of

1:23:43 ↗ that I think is is limited um you know I

1:23:46 ↗ guess I you know kind of leaning in the

1:23:49 ↗ direction maybe of what Marlene was

1:23:51 ↗ talking about a little bit I mean I

1:23:52 ↗ think that the community really needs to

1:23:55 ↗ give some consideration to an aquatic

1:23:57 ↗ center and and and may be something that

1:24:01 ↗ would actually be done in phases so that

1:24:04 ↗ it wouldn't necessarily cost a fortune

1:24:06 ↗ up front but maybe have something

1:24:09 ↗ located in a place that is not as

1:24:11 ↗ congested maybe more easily accessible

1:24:14 ↗ maybe in central isqua figure in the

1:24:17 ↗ light rail system you know I mean

1:24:19 ↗ there's there's a lot of potential other

1:24:21 ↗ options in that ECT for how to get in

1:24:24 ↗ and out of it um but and maybe try and

1:24:27 ↗ keep the cost down initially in a phase

1:24:30 ↗ where you can actually add some capacity

1:24:32 ↗ but also add some ability for continued

1:24:36 ↗ growth this really ends the growth of

1:24:39 ↗ this location I just don't see how you

1:24:41 ↗ could you know 10 20 years down the road

1:24:44 ↗ add additional capacity whereas if you

1:24:46 ↗ go to something new uh where you do it

1:24:49 ↗ in phases that maybe you could actually

1:24:51 ↗ foresee you know a much larger Aquatic

1:24:54 ↗ Center potentially um 20 30 years down

1:24:58 ↗ the road and I think when you're talking

1:25:00 ↗ about something like this you really do

1:25:02 ↗ need to be talking long-term planning

1:25:06 ↗ and and to me this feels a little bit

1:25:08 ↗ like a shortterm capacity fix that that

1:25:13 ↗ put us puts us potentially in the same

1:25:15 ↗ bind 10 years from now uh or 15 or

1:25:19 ↗ whatever and and and I think if you look

1:25:21 ↗ further down the line

1:25:22 ↗ I mean then you kind of open up the box

1:25:24 ↗ about talking about some other

1:25:27 ↗ Alternatives so you know I I I I see

1:25:30 ↗ where this is headed and why you're

1:25:32 ↗ doing it but you know I I think it's

1:25:34 ↗ good to open up expand the brain a

1:25:36 ↗ little bit to to see what maybe some

1:25:38 ↗ other options are see what the

1:25:40 ↗ community's interest is even the

1:25:42 ↗ Regionals interest is for building

1:25:46 ↗ something you know maybe larger uh you

1:25:49 ↗ know with something that has even

1:25:51 ↗ something more Regional

1:25:53 ↗ draw and and this this doesn't really

1:25:57 ↗ provide that I think it's a short-term

1:25:59 ↗ fix my vision would be something more

1:26:02 ↗ long-term

1:26:04 ↗ consideration so that's my two

1:26:08 ↗ cents

1:26:12 ↗ thanks

1:26:15 ↗ now about

1:26:18 ↗ like exion of the pool so you said

1:26:20 ↗ there's going to be like eight Lanes

1:26:21 ↗ right um and you said it's also to be

1:26:23 ↗ used for like swim me Stu right

1:26:25 ↗ especially for like

1:26:27 ↗ these so um you know I'm obiously myself

1:26:30 ↗ I'm coming I'm coming straight from some

1:26:32 ↗ practice but um I know that at like at

1:26:36 ↗ swim we to get really really crowded

1:26:38 ↗ especially on the deck um and there's

1:26:40 ↗ not a lot of like you know like people

1:26:42 ↗ sit especially also on like dance as

1:26:44 ↗ well so I'm just wondering how much

1:26:46 ↗ space there's going to be like on Deck

1:26:47 ↗ you know just normally for people who

1:26:49 ↗ are using the pool

1:26:51 ↗ or

1:26:53 ↗ yeah if we want we could pull up that

1:26:55 ↗ slide really quickly uh s can you pull

1:26:58 ↗ up a picture of the overhead where we go

1:27:01 ↗ back back keep going back overhead yep

1:27:04 ↗ one more there you go there you go

1:27:06 ↗ that's perfect right there you see how

1:27:08 ↗ on the side on

1:27:10 ↗ the

1:27:14 ↗ F the one we created a larger deck space

1:27:18 ↗ because a swimmer at the pool I'm sure

1:27:19 ↗ you know that the deck space around the

1:27:20 ↗ existing pool is a little it's tight

1:27:23 ↗ right so we created a much larger deck

1:27:25 ↗ space here around the pool as best we

1:27:28 ↗ could with the constraints of the site

1:27:30 ↗ right and these bleachers here we've

1:27:32 ↗ talked about they could do so quite a

1:27:34 ↗ bit of seating here along this whole

1:27:35 ↗ wall here and not like in the other pool

1:27:39 ↗ where it's up above this will be at

1:27:41 ↗ ground level for meats and stuff Andor

1:27:43 ↗ for the you know participants and this

1:27:45 ↗ is that flowing out area where during

1:27:48 ↗ nicer weather people can just literally

1:27:50 ↗ go out and FL into that space where we

1:27:52 ↗ have grass in a little deck patio area

1:27:56 ↗ but then these bleachers could be

1:27:58 ↗ potentially retractable I mean once

1:28:00 ↗ again this is all just hypothetical

1:28:01 ↗ right now but the bleaches could be

1:28:04 ↗ retractable and create even more deck

1:28:06 ↗ space when you are training and

1:28:08 ↗ practicing you have more space to do

1:28:10 ↗ your land activities does that

1:28:18 ↗ help I don't

1:28:20 ↗ know so how does this impact the areas

1:28:24 ↗ for dressing rooms and bathrooms and

1:28:27 ↗ once we double the space how are you

1:28:28 ↗ going to handle everybody

1:28:30 ↗ inside great question because we do have

1:28:33 ↗ in when with our the renovation we did

1:28:35 ↗ in 2015 we actually increased a lot of

1:28:38 ↗ our restroom um in locker room capacity

1:28:42 ↗ so I believe Brooke we ran that I think

1:28:43 ↗ you mentioned that we covered that we

1:28:46 ↗ have capacity within the

1:28:48 ↗ existing uh lock

1:28:51 ↗ rooms

1:28:53 ↗ of the patronage right so we only had to

1:28:56 ↗ add I mean just if you're going with

1:28:58 ↗ basic Plumbing fixture requirements we

1:29:00 ↗ only needed to add the two small

1:29:02 ↗ restrooms that are on the north end of

1:29:04 ↗ this um image here in the in the orange

1:29:07 ↗ um to compensate for the the numbers

1:29:11 ↗ that we need um but the existing locker

1:29:14 ↗ rooms are very pretty generous actually

1:29:17 ↗ and there are already two family

1:29:18 ↗ changing rooms and staff locker rooms

1:29:20 ↗ and so um it's pretty good space in

1:29:23 ↗ there yeah for 2015 that one of the

1:29:26 ↗ things we did was expand the locker

1:29:28 ↗ rooms a little bit

1:29:31 ↗ so have

1:29:33 ↗ some questions and

1:29:35 ↗ comments uh real quick well I'll go with

1:29:38 ↗ comments first uh I agree with Marlene

1:29:41 ↗ uh I think we need to at least consider

1:29:44 ↗ bigger if we can um I liked you know

1:29:48 ↗ immediately my eyes went to the 25 yard

1:29:51 ↗ with the stretch

1:29:52 ↗ pool uh on that graphic right there that

1:29:55 ↗ dark gray area to the I guess it' be to

1:29:58 ↗ the north the uh outdoor area I think

1:30:01 ↗ that might be a great place to expand as

1:30:04 ↗ well to create some room for overflow or

1:30:09 ↗ staging you know if you have one age

1:30:12 ↗ group needs a place to hang out after

1:30:14 ↗ you know some some level of the

1:30:17 ↗ competition

1:30:19 ↗ um if possible

1:30:23 ↗ if you look at the the rendering there

1:30:25 ↗ that area is all in the

1:30:27 ↗ shade that's the north side of the

1:30:29 ↗ building maybe that doesn't matter in

1:30:32 ↗ the summer when the sun's going to be

1:30:35 ↗ more you know higher up and also to the

1:30:37 ↗ West in the afternoon but it might be

1:30:40 ↗ worth looking at that once we get into

1:30:42 ↗ more into design and then in the stretch

1:30:45 ↗ pool you know if that could be looked at

1:30:48 ↗ bulging that out to the North or the

1:30:50 ↗ area to the north to provide that um you

1:30:56 ↗ know what do you call it the Zero Entry

1:31:00 ↗ zero depth entry zero depth entry uh to

1:31:03 ↗ create more of like a family and play

1:31:04 ↗ area on the North while still

1:31:06 ↗ maintaining the competitive area to the

1:31:08 ↗ South I think I think I once learned

1:31:10 ↗ that the lap pools are the are the

1:31:12 ↗ costliest part of an aquatic center

1:31:15 ↗ because you get the

1:31:17 ↗ most the fewest users per volume of

1:31:20 ↗ water uh where like the family areas are

1:31:23 ↗ the ones that really draw the users I

1:31:24 ↗ don't know if that's correct anymore um

1:31:28 ↗ so those are just some thoughts but I

1:31:29 ↗ really think we Out Of Reach for a

1:31:31 ↗ bigger expansion if we can um and then

1:31:35 ↗ quick question on the cost

1:31:38 ↗ recovery uh metric that was provided so

1:31:41 ↗ the 98% total cost

1:31:44 ↗ recovery what what exactly is included

1:31:47 ↗ in

1:31:48 ↗ that is that annual operating cost

1:31:52 ↗ recovery I guess it's a little bit it

1:31:54 ↗ covers a lot but not all of the expenses

1:31:57 ↗ of facility right but that's Staffing

1:31:59 ↗ full time full-time part-time chemicals

1:32:03 ↗ uh heating all the electrical um

1:32:06 ↗ supplies it does not cover the actual

1:32:09 ↗ facility and we call this out in the

1:32:11 ↗ report but it doesn't cover the

1:32:12 ↗ facilities

1:32:13 ↗ maintenance part of it like when

1:32:16 ↗ facility workers actually come and work

1:32:17 ↗ in the facility it doesn't include you

1:32:20 ↗ know replacement cost come in the future

1:32:22 ↗ for larger items such as like your hbac

1:32:24 ↗ or any of those but in general it's

1:32:26 ↗ running us the same as we are running

1:32:27 ↗ right now it's like an operating cost

1:32:30 ↗ yes including the full-time and

1:32:32 ↗ part-time staff thanks that's that

1:32:35 ↗ that's what I was looking for

1:32:37 ↗ occasionally okay and I think I um

1:32:40 ↗ apologize we can't see everybody's who

1:32:42 ↗ raises their hand all the time so that's

1:32:44 ↗ why we keep saying I think it's this but

1:32:46 ↗ I I think I saw that Nicholas raised his

1:32:48 ↗ hand you asked my question and I

1:32:51 ↗ appreciate it and I was just trying to

1:32:53 ↗ ascertain the same bit of data so thank

1:32:56 ↗ you and then I see Andrew you've got

1:32:59 ↗ your hand up

1:33:01 ↗ too yeah I um it's maybe a little a

1:33:04 ↗ mixture of comment or and question it

1:33:07 ↗ it's just wasn't based on what the

1:33:10 ↗ previous study provided versus the study

1:33:13 ↗ today it wasn't just fully clear to me

1:33:16 ↗ what the difference is why we're doing

1:33:17 ↗ another visibility study um and maybe

1:33:22 ↗ that is just something that I missed um

1:33:25 ↗ I I completely resonate around the

1:33:28 ↗ messaging part about the ambition around

1:33:32 ↗ the um the phib ility study when I tried

1:33:37 ↗ um I tried both the pool in isqua and a

1:33:41 ↗ pool in in another city and my initial

1:33:46 ↗ reaction jokingly to the friend that I

1:33:48 ↗ went with was I thought my city is

1:33:51 ↗ richer than your city because their

1:33:54 ↗ their facility is really bigger and um

1:33:58 ↗ their their pricing structure as well is

1:34:00 ↗ more affordable um so that's one thing

1:34:03 ↗ that I was curious about if the um

1:34:07 ↗ recovery structure if if it looked at

1:34:10 ↗ the feasibility of updating the fee

1:34:13 ↗ structure or just maintaining it um

1:34:16 ↗ adjusting adjusting it with the with

1:34:18 ↗ inflation rate I also didn't see Market

1:34:22 ↗ analys they the study mentioned market

1:34:26 ↗ analysis but it didn't um tell me like

1:34:31 ↗ maybe not full competitive analysis but

1:34:34 ↗ just benchmarking with um standard

1:34:38 ↗ benchmarking with neighboring cities

1:34:40 ↗ like upon looking at the poll that I

1:34:42 ↗ tried it showed me that it's twice as

1:34:46 ↗ twice as much bigger than isqua and

1:34:50 ↗ population is twice as um bigger than

1:34:54 ↗ isqua and maybe that explains why they

1:34:57 ↗ have a bigger pool I think providing

1:35:00 ↗ context on what are what do um

1:35:04 ↗ neighboring cities that are as big as

1:35:07 ↗ isqua um have today and compare it or

1:35:11 ↗ how much we're improving can can kind of

1:35:13 ↗ maybe send a better message to our

1:35:16 ↗ constituents that um this is what we're

1:35:19 ↗ trying to aim for

1:35:22 ↗ um yeah those are just my

1:35:28 ↗ comments good

1:35:32 ↗ comments do appreciate that I I can

1:35:34 ↗ touch on your your first question of

1:35:36 ↗ sort of what why this feasibility study

1:35:39 ↗ what were we sort of doing different

1:35:41 ↗ with this one and piggybacking off of

1:35:44 ↗ 2009 again um this is not a feasibility

1:35:47 ↗ study looking or

1:35:50 ↗ exploring every option Under the Sun it

1:35:52 ↗ was really meant to say how can we do

1:35:56 ↗ our due diligence on our existing site

1:35:59 ↗ how can we provide the most

1:36:02 ↗ costeffective is it even possible to do

1:36:05 ↗ enough of a degree of expansion of water

1:36:08 ↗ on the existing site um and piggyback

1:36:11 ↗ off of the 2013 Park Bond Investments

1:36:14 ↗ that weren't done in 2009 right how do

1:36:16 ↗ we how do we leverage those and maybe um

1:36:20 ↗ at least sort of present as a baseline

1:36:23 ↗ here's here's a way or here's an option

1:36:26 ↗ we can consider um um to at least um

1:36:30 ↗ begin to address this uh pretty sizable

1:36:33 ↗ aquatic deficit that we have um and also

1:36:37 ↗ understand and I think as we get into

1:36:38 ↗ our Park system Plan update uh we have

1:36:40 ↗ many other deficits throughout our Park

1:36:42 ↗ system um in needs for acquisition and

1:36:45 ↗ Community parks and athletic fields Etc

1:36:47 ↗ and so how do we at least as a baseline

1:36:50 ↗ start to give ourselves some creative

1:36:53 ↗ options to consider

1:36:55 ↗ um

1:36:57 ↗ um as we try and balance all of these

1:37:00 ↗ investment needs that I think the

1:37:01 ↗ community is going to want across its

1:37:03 ↗ Parks and Recreation

1:37:14 ↗ system any other

1:37:16 ↗ comments just last thought to to add to

1:37:20 ↗ the loud voice that Brad Marlene and

1:37:23 ↗ Chris have said you know just thinking

1:37:25 ↗ more outside the box right I mean if

1:37:27 ↗ we're really looking at something not

1:37:30 ↗ for the just to come up to par but to

1:37:32 ↗ look at something that will last us

1:37:33 ↗ until 2060 right 40 years from now um

1:37:38 ↗ was there a consideration of potentially

1:37:40 ↗ even knocking down the current pool and

1:37:44 ↗ rebuilding the entire site because as

1:37:46 ↗ you saw from the schematic it's

1:37:47 ↗ literally right in the middle of a lot

1:37:49 ↗ plan right which is everyone knows it's

1:37:50 ↗ not the most we to build something um so

1:37:54 ↗ you know again thinking about that 40 50

1:37:55 ↗ year timeline and the cost difference I

1:37:58 ↗ obviously know it will be probably 6070

1:38:00 ↗ million at that point but now you really

1:38:03 ↗ have the Aquatic Facility that we're

1:38:04 ↗ talking about right and it would be I

1:38:07 ↗ don't know what it would be shutting

1:38:08 ↗ down for two or three years I mean you

1:38:11 ↗ know the Seattle Seahawks moved to Husky

1:38:12 ↗ Stadium for two two years right ear

1:38:15 ↗ 2,000 so that team is all about money

1:38:18 ↗ and so we're talking about Community

1:38:19 ↗ here and if we have to sacrifice those

1:38:21 ↗ two to three years to have something

1:38:22 ↗ truly beautiful for 50 that's something

1:38:25 ↗ that should be considered as well right

1:38:27 ↗ and answer your question no we didn't

1:38:28 ↗ consider that option it was like I said

1:38:30 ↗ just the basics of feasible to add more

1:38:33 ↗ capacity on that site which kind of

1:38:35 ↗ speaks to that but we didn't go into the

1:38:37 ↗ whole blown out version of what does it

1:38:39 ↗ look like if we were to knock it all

1:38:40 ↗ down and look could be

1:38:44 ↗ both yeah I think you know once we've

1:38:47 ↗ heard all your comments and thoughts I'd

1:38:48 ↗ love to talk a little bit about next

1:38:50 ↗ steps and maybe

1:38:51 ↗ uh again I think reconfirm sort of where

1:38:54 ↗ where we want this or or where we'd like

1:38:57 ↗ this conversation to springboard to

1:38:59 ↗ David and I I think that speaks to some

1:39:01 ↗ of your um some of those considerations

1:39:04 ↗ as well but I'll I'll hold off on that

1:39:06 ↗ until there's you you guys are

1:39:12 ↗ done I think we're done

1:39:15 ↗ [Music]

1:39:17 ↗ Marlene we can't see her so we don't

1:39:19 ↗ know all right go ahead Marlene oh sorry

1:39:23 ↗ and this might be to Jeff's comment

1:39:25 ↗ right like now I'm going to be totally

1:39:27 ↗ the person who's spending all the money

1:39:29 ↗ so sorry but sometimes at least in my

1:39:33 ↗ job there's like a short-term solution

1:39:34 ↗ and a longer term solution right so I

1:39:36 ↗ think Brad had thrown out like if we

1:39:38 ↗ were really going to build an aquatic

1:39:40 ↗ center where would we build it like I

1:39:42 ↗ think that's a really interesting I'd be

1:39:44 ↗ curious where Aquatic Center fits within

1:39:45 ↗ the Strategic plan because I just plain

1:39:47 ↗ don't know but in the short term it

1:39:49 ↗ seems like we have a real deficit from

1:39:50 ↗ the the 1970s and so my question is is

1:39:53 ↗ this really an either or situation or is

1:39:57 ↗ this like let's fix something for the

1:39:59 ↗ community that lives here now and start

1:40:02 ↗ a legacy for future generations with

1:40:05 ↗ something else so I just wanted to throw

1:40:07 ↗ that out there that I'm not sure like

1:40:09 ↗ don't take my comments as I don't think

1:40:12 ↗ we should do this because it's not

1:40:13 ↗ enough and we should wait for the big

1:40:14 ↗ thing I think I'm a little like is our

1:40:17 ↗ town going to be big

1:40:19 ↗ enough to have something that's really

1:40:21 ↗ focused on competitive swim at boom and

1:40:26 ↗ something that's really focused on

1:40:28 ↗ community somewhere else in the long

1:40:30 ↗ term rational swim somewhere else may

1:40:32 ↗ and so like I just don't want my

1:40:34 ↗ comments to be like I don't you know I

1:40:36 ↗ think there's obviously a huge deficit

1:40:38 ↗ that we need to solve for like right now

1:40:40 ↗ is my understanding I don't think that

1:40:42 ↗ needs

1:40:43 ↗ to I just don't think it needs to be in

1:40:45 ↗ either or at least at the discussion

1:40:49 ↗ level yeah no wor no worries about I I

1:40:51 ↗ I'm taking it as you this doing it's

1:40:53 ↗ doing what it was supposed to do it's

1:40:54 ↗ generating good conversation and opening

1:40:57 ↗ up this topic for discussion right which

1:40:59 ↗ is uh I think that's what we were

1:41:00 ↗ looking forward to begin with it's

1:41:02 ↗ healthy and there are I mean it's kind

1:41:04 ↗ of the study lets us know there are

1:41:07 ↗ options right and there's a lot of those

1:41:09 ↗ to be discussed and figured

1:41:19 ↗ out okay I don't see anyone else's hands

1:41:23 ↗ unless there's anyone in the

1:41:26 ↗ room I think we can say thank you so

1:41:30 ↗ much

1:41:32 ↗ NAC and thanks everyone for the great

1:41:35 ↗ discussion um back to you Chris to get

1:41:39 ↗ us to our next topic okay our next item

1:41:43 ↗ is the I think I see a hand from Jeff

1:41:46 ↗ trying to say

1:41:48 ↗ something no thank you for the

1:41:49 ↗ transition hisan the uh Brooke uh Brian

1:41:53 ↗ love thank you so much um I just wanted

1:41:55 ↗ to highlight again next steps super

1:41:57 ↗ super fast if I if I can um I think I

1:42:00 ↗ mentioned that um we'll have copies of

1:42:03 ↗ this draft plan you know Brian love

1:42:05 ↗ mentioned that as we're kind of taking

1:42:07 ↗ your thoughts and want to incorporate

1:42:09 ↗ that into the plan we'll make sure you

1:42:10 ↗ have copies of the draft plan as well as

1:42:13 ↗ copies of the 2009 study um December

1:42:16 ↗ 11th we will be having our first

1:42:19 ↗ conversation with City Council uh the

1:42:21 ↗ parks um Safety Services and Parks

1:42:25 ↗ committee um to again just present this

1:42:28 ↗ feasibility study um again not meant as

1:42:32 ↗ a recommendation I want to reiterate

1:42:34 ↗ that it's really meant to stoke

1:42:36 ↗ conversation and say all right you know

1:42:38 ↗ we are at deficit and and we I I love

1:42:42 ↗ the aspiration of this group but I have

1:42:44 ↗ to tell you I I don't think I'd be

1:42:46 ↗ booing my job as a Parks director if I

1:42:48 ↗ keep bringing towards you the community

1:42:51 ↗ every solution we have for deficits in

1:42:53 ↗ this park system is a $40 million $50

1:42:56 ↗ million Endeavor um we we're going to

1:42:59 ↗ need to to be aspirational but also

1:43:02 ↗ pragmatic and practical and so that's

1:43:04 ↗ the intent of this is to just say all

1:43:06 ↗ right here's at least a a pragmatic

1:43:08 ↗ approach Community what do we think um

1:43:11 ↗ Connie had a great question in her

1:43:13 ↗ public comment about uh funding um

1:43:17 ↗ whether it's this model or others that's

1:43:19 ↗ certainly something we're keeping very

1:43:21 ↗ close eye on um cities like isqua we're

1:43:24 ↗ not the only city in King County we're

1:43:26 ↗ we're sort of stuck trying to solve our

1:43:28 ↗ Aquatics problem because um King County

1:43:31 ↗ back in 2003 decided that this is you

1:43:33 ↗ know Aquatics is a local thing now um we

1:43:37 ↗ as cities have been pushing on King

1:43:38 ↗ County for a long long time uh there

1:43:41 ↗ currently is some grant funding

1:43:43 ↗ available to King County uh doesn't pay

1:43:45 ↗ for everything but uh a project like

1:43:48 ↗ this and why we went after this

1:43:49 ↗ feasibility Stu study projects such as

1:43:52 ↗ this where we're looking to expand or

1:43:54 ↗ build upon an an a forward thrust pool

1:43:58 ↗ um our candidates for up to $5 million

1:44:00 ↗ of of King County grant

1:44:02 ↗ funding um we've brought the school

1:44:04 ↗ district along as part of this

1:44:06 ↗ feasibility study so whether it's a

1:44:07 ↗ solution like this or any other solution

1:44:11 ↗ um lo and behold in a couple years if

1:44:13 ↗ and when they're adding a fourth high

1:44:14 ↗ school that will make eight so consider

1:44:17 ↗ boys and girls teams for each of those

1:44:18 ↗ high schools that will be eight teams

1:44:20 ↗ that uh will need uh pool facilities so

1:44:23 ↗ we very much want the school district to

1:44:25 ↗ be part of those

1:44:26 ↗ conversations um all that to say I I

1:44:29 ↗ think we're on the very front end of

1:44:31 ↗ what we hope is to some really

1:44:33 ↗ intentional not just wishful thinking

1:44:37 ↗ aspirational but let's be really

1:44:38 ↗ pragmatic and practical um and

1:44:41 ↗ aspirational as we really try and

1:44:43 ↗ address a a very significant Aquatics

1:44:46 ↗ deficit in this community so um thanks a

1:44:49 ↗ ton for all of your your thoughts and

1:44:51 ↗ comments this is this is going to be a

1:44:53 ↗ big one added to a bunch of other big

1:44:55 ↗ ones how do we do address athletic

1:44:57 ↗ fields how do we address community park

1:44:59 ↗ and neighborhood park deficits um how do

1:45:02 ↗ we I mean there's a lot of financial

1:45:05 ↗ realities that that I see that I I feel

1:45:07 ↗ like we as staff want to be really smart

1:45:11 ↗ in presenting options and realistic

1:45:14 ↗ options to um you all as residents um in

1:45:18 ↗ isqu thanks

1:45:24 ↗ okay with that we'll move on to the next

1:45:25 ↗ item which is economic development uh

1:45:28 ↗ action plan and that's going to be

1:45:30 ↗ presented by

1:45:41 ↗ Fel thank you can you hear me

1:45:43 ↗ all yes we

1:45:46 ↗ can well I promise I'm not going to take

1:45:49 ↗ a lot of time because I'll take like

1:45:51 ↗ less than even 10 minutes to go uh

1:45:54 ↗ quickly through uh through this isako

1:45:57 ↗ Economic Development action plan so

1:45:59 ↗ first of all I'll start by introducing

1:46:00 ↗ myself my name is farel oo I am one of

1:46:03 ↗ the economic development coordinator

1:46:05 ↗ with the city of

1:46:07 ↗ isak next slide

1:46:10 ↗ please so in in in summary uh Economic

1:46:14 ↗ Development was a new Department in 20

1:46:18 ↗ 2012 uh then created a strategic plan

1:46:22 ↗ with the newly created

1:46:24 ↗ EVC So the plan was to update the

1:46:27 ↗ Strategic plan after the Citywide

1:46:29 ↗ strategic plan was

1:46:31 ↗ completed uh also it's important to

1:46:33 ↗ mention a few changes to note since uh

1:46:36 ↗ the last plan so economic development

1:46:40 ↗ department now is a division within the

1:46:43 ↗ mayor's office staffed by three

1:46:47 ↗ staff and

1:46:48 ↗ Co covid and and pandemic changes to

1:46:52 ↗ Market haven't settled especially with

1:46:54 ↗ the office Market of course uh we are

1:46:57 ↗ working with economic Vitality

1:46:59 ↗ commission as our Advisory Group all

1:47:01 ↗ along the way next slide

1:47:06 ↗ please so in the in our plan we started

1:47:11 ↗ this plan in April whereby we uh

1:47:14 ↗ requested uh rfqs and we partner with uh

1:47:20 ↗ Community attributes to kind of help us

1:47:22 ↗ in developing this uh plan so why is it

1:47:26 ↗ important to do outrage to us and first

1:47:29 ↗ of all as I have mentioned we hired a

1:47:31 ↗ consultant to allow businesses and other

1:47:34 ↗ interested parties to be honest in their

1:47:37 ↗ feedback because we feel like if we

1:47:38 ↗ approach these businesses some of them

1:47:41 ↗ they want to be honest with us so we

1:47:42 ↗ kind of give it to our community

1:47:45 ↗ attributes uh uh consultant to kind of

1:47:48 ↗ lead that uh uh uh interviews and focus

1:47:52 ↗ groups of course overall the top

1:47:56 ↗ concerns were related to Workforce space

1:47:59 ↗ and when I talk about space I'm talking

1:48:02 ↗ about space in terms of

1:48:03 ↗ affordability

1:48:05 ↗ accessibility and uh availability and of

1:48:09 ↗ course another issue that come up was

1:48:11 ↗ affordable housing and what we did is we

1:48:15 ↗ did a survey that is business survey and

1:48:18 ↗ residential survey within the community

1:48:20 ↗ and of course the city Department as I

1:48:22 ↗ mentioned we are Department of three uh

1:48:24 ↗ we did office hours within different uh

1:48:27 ↗ section of the community one we did in

1:48:29 ↗ the highlands uh

1:48:32 ↗ downtown uh and we were strategically

1:48:34 ↗ located within the uh community and of

1:48:37 ↗ course we also did uh boards and

1:48:39 ↗ commission Outreach whereby we went to

1:48:42 ↗ different boards and kind of present uh

1:48:45 ↗ what we were anticipated of doing next

1:48:47 ↗ slide

1:48:49 ↗ please

1:48:51 ↗ so in in the next slide I'm uh I'm going

1:48:54 ↗ to mention about vision and mission

1:48:55 ↗ statement and again mission is important

1:48:58 ↗ to highlight that our regular work will

1:49:01 ↗ continue but that is in the next three

1:49:04 ↗ years we are going to focus on new

1:49:06 ↗ efforts on one outdoor two creative

1:49:10 ↗ economy and three homebased businesses

1:49:13 ↗ so our vision is isak's distinct

1:49:16 ↗ historic charm and modern amenities for

1:49:20 ↗ an inclusive and dynamic place to

1:49:23 ↗ successfully grow businesses in the Pu

1:49:27 ↗ sound

1:49:28 ↗ region and we also develop our mission

1:49:31 ↗ while attracting and supporting

1:49:33 ↗ businesses in isaka across all

1:49:35 ↗ Industries the next three year will be a

1:49:39 ↗ deliberate Focus to grow the presence of

1:49:43 ↗ Auto

1:49:44 ↗ Recreation creative economy and

1:49:47 ↗ homebased businesses that align and and

1:49:50 ↗ enhances our city distinct identity so

1:49:53 ↗ this our mission and and vision next

1:49:56 ↗ slide

1:50:01 ↗ please so within this plan we came we

1:50:05 ↗ came we came up with three themes and we

1:50:07 ↗ had theme one that is access to

1:50:11 ↗ opportunity so isaka desires to serve

1:50:15 ↗ all local businesses and in doing so

1:50:19 ↗ reverse his roric systemic pattern and

1:50:23 ↗ in Equitable access to Economic

1:50:25 ↗ Opportunity one way to do so is by uh

1:50:29 ↗ improving city services and systems that

1:50:32 ↗ connect businesses and entrepreneurs to

1:50:35 ↗ knowledge and resources to succeed so

1:50:38 ↗ the goal is to make uh this entrepreneur

1:50:40 ↗ succeed in isaa another is by improving

1:50:44 ↗ uh the policy and Regulatory

1:50:47 ↗ environmental in which businesses

1:50:49 ↗ operate uh within uh the jurisdiction of

1:50:52 ↗ isaka and the next theme that we came up

1:50:55 ↗ with uh was convene and

1:50:58 ↗ catalyze so the city of isaka Works to

1:51:01 ↗ align local and Regional effort of

1:51:05 ↗ various City departments partners and

1:51:09 ↗ agencies and to create a durable

1:51:12 ↗ Coalition and partnership to enact

1:51:15 ↗ program policies and projects so these

1:51:18 ↗ efforts will redu will will produce

1:51:21 ↗ diverse sustainable and Equitable

1:51:25 ↗ Economic Development with the city

1:51:28 ↗ acting as a convenor and a

1:51:32 ↗ facilitator then theme three where we

1:51:34 ↗ want to focus uh with uh the park board

1:51:37 ↗ and the park uh team is leveraging isaka

1:51:42 ↗ assets so we all know that isaa is a

1:51:44 ↗ home to numerous thriving Industries and

1:51:48 ↗ sectors that contribute jobs

1:51:51 ↗ revenues and a high quality of life to

1:51:53 ↗ the city and its residents workers and

1:51:57 ↗ visitors so three sectors in particular

1:52:01 ↗ that is the Outdoor Rec uh creative

1:52:04 ↗ Industries and home based businesses

1:52:07 ↗ align with and reflect isaka unique

1:52:10 ↗ sense of place

1:52:13 ↗ opportunities Trend and can provide

1:52:16 ↗ quality opportunities for jobs and

1:52:18 ↗ Entrepreneurship and that's why we want

1:52:20 ↗ to focus on how do we now build uh the

1:52:23 ↗ business ecosystem how do we reinforce

1:52:26 ↗ isaka

1:52:27 ↗ identity next slide

1:52:35 ↗ please so the next I'm not going to dive

1:52:38 ↗ much into into the discussion per se but

1:52:41 ↗ I I will encourage Asanti to share my

1:52:44 ↗ email uh with the park team and to kind

1:52:48 ↗ of in the the theme three we'll share

1:52:51 ↗ these slides with you guys and if if you

1:52:55 ↗ feel like there's a theme that we need

1:52:57 ↗ to prioritize kind of just shoot me an

1:52:59 ↗ email instead of now discussing these

1:53:01 ↗ themes one by one but I'll go really

1:53:04 ↗ quick through this slide so at the core

1:53:06 ↗ of our work in economic development is

1:53:08 ↗ supporting our local businesses so the

1:53:12 ↗ idea is we want to welcome tourist into

1:53:14 ↗ our outdoor spaces but also we want to

1:53:17 ↗ ensure that our community benefit from

1:53:19 ↗ their

1:53:20 ↗ visitation so many of the actions in the

1:53:23 ↗ metrics consider broadening outdoor

1:53:26 ↗ recreation customers base but you will

1:53:29 ↗ notice that we are also focusing on

1:53:31 ↗ serving our businesses our local

1:53:33 ↗ businesses so as we engage with ar

1:53:36 ↗ Recreation organization in our Economic

1:53:39 ↗ Development action plan Outreach we

1:53:42 ↗ heard from BRS organization mountain

1:53:45 ↗ bike organization and several Seattle

1:53:48 ↗ based nonprofit who work on expanding

1:53:51 ↗ access to outdoor to diverse Community

1:53:55 ↗ what what other Recreation types

1:53:58 ↗ specifically outdoor recation business

1:54:00 ↗ type should we explore and that's is a

1:54:02 ↗ question to you guys and another another

1:54:05 ↗ thing is a short list of potential

1:54:06 ↗ Partners who we have engaged with uh

1:54:10 ↗ include uh Partners like isaka Alps tra

1:54:13 ↗ club uh the

1:54:15 ↗ Mountaineers young women

1:54:18 ↗ empowered and Evergreen mountain

1:54:21 ↗ bike uh Washington Trail

1:54:25 ↗ Association sa Snow kuami Valley

1:54:28 ↗ Mountain to sound Greenway then who else

1:54:32 ↗ should we consider so those are the part

1:54:34 ↗ of the question that we are trying to uh

1:54:36 ↗ uh to gaug uh with you guys like within

1:54:40 ↗ this uh action items which one do we

1:54:43 ↗ need to

1:54:44 ↗ prioritize there are action already that

1:54:46 ↗ are happening and we can leverage our

1:54:49 ↗ efforts together together to kind of

1:54:51 ↗ work together towards a common achieving

1:54:53 ↗ a common agenda then of course we want

1:54:55 ↗ also to part partner interest in action

1:54:58 ↗ so in this action maybe as parks and

1:55:00 ↗ board you will come within an action and

1:55:02 ↗ say oh we feel like we need to partner

1:55:04 ↗ with economic development towards uh

1:55:07 ↗ driving this uh action next slide

1:55:12 ↗ please so the last two are now where we

1:55:16 ↗ want to uh partner and f as sense of

1:55:20 ↗ according to you par board which actions

1:55:24 ↗ do you feel like we need to prioritize

1:55:27 ↗ which actions here do you feel like we

1:55:29 ↗ can now work together collaborate and

1:55:32 ↗ kind of amplify it and if you look at

1:55:35 ↗ here Goan uh building the business

1:55:39 ↗ ecosystem in the outdoor recreation

1:55:42 ↗ industry so the first one we are

1:55:44 ↗ expanding identify existing and

1:55:46 ↗ potential business needs through

1:55:48 ↗ continued Outreach then the rest ones

1:55:50 ↗ are just new efforts that we've come

1:55:53 ↗ with uh the next slide

1:55:57 ↗ please the next strategy was here is

1:56:00 ↗ also to reinforce isako identity as I

1:56:02 ↗ mentioned our our identity what is our

1:56:04 ↗ identity what do we stand out as isapur

1:56:07 ↗ and kind of this one are all new efforts

1:56:11 ↗ uh that we are trying to uh to propos in

1:56:13 ↗ our strategic plan so we have four new

1:56:17 ↗ efforts and again encourage you to look

1:56:20 ↗ at this efforts and if you find there's

1:56:23 ↗ one that we can partner or if you see

1:56:25 ↗ that there's one we need to really

1:56:27 ↗ really prioritize kind of let us know

1:56:29 ↗ the next slide

1:56:32 ↗ please so here is our next steps

1:56:35 ↗ incorporate feedback into action plan

1:56:36 ↗ the feedback that I'm trying to get from

1:56:38 ↗ you guys like from our action plan which

1:56:41 ↗ one do you feel like we need to Prior

1:56:42 ↗ prioritize which one do you feel like

1:56:44 ↗ the parts and economic development can

1:56:47 ↗ part partner together and kind of work

1:56:49 ↗ towards it then of course we are doing

1:56:52 ↗ presentation to PS Equity ATS board and

1:56:55 ↗ commission we kind of want also to give

1:56:57 ↗ them feedback what we get what we got

1:56:59 ↗ from the ground and also we did office

1:57:02 ↗ hour at co-working event we kind of

1:57:04 ↗ invite we invited uh some of these

1:57:07 ↗ stakeholders to kind of give them uh

1:57:09 ↗ what we've analyzed and what we've come

1:57:11 ↗ with then finalize full Economic

1:57:14 ↗ Development action plan uh sometimes

1:57:16 ↗ next month uh then of course City

1:57:18 ↗ Council

1:57:20 ↗ presentation uh in

1:57:22 ↗ January I don't think I have a next

1:57:26 ↗ slide no that's all of them yes so that

1:57:29 ↗ is the end of my presentation and I will

1:57:32 ↗ let Asanti to share my email with you

1:57:34 ↗ guys and kind of go through those action

1:57:37 ↗ that I've shared with you if you feel

1:57:38 ↗ there's action that we need to really

1:57:40 ↗ really really prioritize just let me

1:57:42 ↗ know if you feel there's those action

1:57:44 ↗ that we need to partner together and

1:57:46 ↗ kind of work towards it also let us know

1:57:49 ↗ thank you so much for giving us time to

1:57:51 ↗ come and present this uh Economic

1:57:53 ↗ Development action plan to your board

1:57:56 ↗ thank

1:58:01 ↗ you any

1:58:05 ↗ comments any I can't tell if any hands

1:58:07 ↗ are raised s let me know I I don't see

1:58:11 ↗ any hands raised currently um but yeah

1:58:15 ↗ please take the time to review the the

1:58:19 ↗ items that Fel sent over I will make

1:58:22 ↗ sure that you all have his email address

1:58:25 ↗ and the contacts for our other Economic

1:58:27 ↗ Development colleagues um and you all

1:58:30 ↗ can continue to give them your

1:58:34 ↗ feedback I see Nicholas has his hand up

1:58:37 ↗ of course this is going to get really

1:58:39 ↗ old because we're about to end on time

1:58:41 ↗ but um my mind just thinks about pool

1:58:44 ↗ Bond investment and economic stimulus

1:58:47 ↗ for the city and for the kind of

1:58:50 ↗ community that we are building here so I

1:58:53 ↗ think it's an important overlap and kind

1:58:54 ↗ of a timely presentation and I just

1:58:57 ↗ wanted to thank you for your service and

1:58:59 ↗ your

1:59:00 ↗ presentation thank

1:59:04 ↗ you okay thank you

1:59:09 ↗ forel I guess with that we'll move on

1:59:12 ↗ to our next uh item which is

1:59:16 ↗ reports um can

1:59:19 ↗ start with we have mine listed as first

1:59:23 ↗ and I will do it very quick because we

1:59:24 ↗ are at

1:59:26 ↗ 8:59 uh I'm going to instead of listing

1:59:28 ↗ all these items I'm going to encourage

1:59:30 ↗ you all to regularly check the ESAT Alps

1:59:32 ↗ and trails club uh events calendar and

1:59:35 ↗ the friends Lakes man State Park uh they

1:59:38 ↗ have a whole bunch of a whole variety of

1:59:40 ↗ items there's a there's some restoration

1:59:42 ↗ work parties if you're interested in

1:59:43 ↗ that there's a forest carbon credit

1:59:46 ↗ informational hike um there's a painting

1:59:49 ↗ in the Park event at Le man State Park

1:59:52 ↗ and then there's a Polar Plunge on

1:59:54 ↗ January 1st so whole host of events that

1:59:57 ↗ are fun uh or interesting and please

2:00:00 ↗ check them

2:00:01 ↗ out uh and after that we'll switch over

2:00:04 ↗ to the youth representative report we're

2:00:07 ↗ really happy to have you

2:00:09 ↗ here

2:00:16 ↗ so this Friday at d

2:00:20 ↗ so

2:00:26 ↗ just but we had like a little bit is a

2:00:29 ↗ career Affair basically what happens

2:00:31 ↗ there is that you know it's targeted

2:00:32 ↗ toward work middle and high school

2:00:33 ↗ students and they you know they get

2:00:35 ↗ exposures to all different types of like

2:00:37 ↗ firefighters you know police officers

2:00:40 ↗ that are not in

2:00:43 ↗ like know

2:00:48 ↗ they have been our main two

2:00:52 ↗ events that's about

2:00:53 ↗ it great thank you so much for coming

2:00:57 ↗ too I think we all enjoy having your you

2:01:01 ↗ here uh okay Jeff director's

2:01:05 ↗ report ah boy thank you for the

2:01:07 ↗ discussion tonight two really fast items

2:01:10 ↗ uh seeing it we're at 9:01 um Park

2:01:13 ↗ system Plan update if you remember we

2:01:14 ↗ had the survey out and hit the streets

2:01:17 ↗ uh we had we just one short of 750 we

2:01:20 ↗ had

2:01:21 ↗ 749 uh survey responses so we're really

2:01:24 ↗ excited to start diving into those

2:01:27 ↗ responses um our partners at design

2:01:29 ↗ Workshop are sort of presting are

2:01:33 ↗ providing us sort of the raw data from

2:01:34 ↗ that we'll be sending that all out all

2:01:36 ↗ to you to to take a look at um one quick

2:01:39 ↗ note uh we had some asked some really

2:01:41 ↗ key demographic questions in terms of

2:01:43 ↗ what neighborhood or part of the city um

2:01:46 ↗ folks uh resided in we feel like we got

2:01:49 ↗ a really good representation of uh the

2:01:51 ↗ full City we also feel like um most of

2:01:55 ↗ our responses are isqua residents so

2:01:57 ↗ about 80 I was just looking at the

2:01:59 ↗ numbers forgive me

2:02:03 ↗ 83% of those 749 responses were isqua

2:02:06 ↗ residents um and 177% were non isqua

2:02:10 ↗ residents so probably a good reflection

2:02:12 ↗ of how our parks are are used so it's

2:02:15 ↗ going to be really helpful information

2:02:16 ↗ in the coming months as we start diving

2:02:18 ↗ into the parks system plan and hearing

2:02:20 ↗ and understanding the bread of

2:02:22 ↗ priorities that our our residents have

2:02:25 ↗ um last Quick item I have just a

2:02:27 ↗ reminder um with December holiday um

2:02:31 ↗ holidays coming up we won't be having a

2:02:33 ↗ park board meeting um that's not to say

2:02:36 ↗ though that uh we as staff will will be

2:02:38 ↗ meeting with Chris and marleene as we're

2:02:41 ↗ pulling together um based upon the 2024

2:02:44 ↗ budget and some of the Amendments that

2:02:46 ↗ that Council just adopted last week

2:02:48 ↗ we're putting together there are 2024

2:02:50 ↗ Department work plans we'll be working

2:02:52 ↗ in December with Chris and marleene and

2:02:55 ↗ begin to map out a work plan for

2:02:57 ↗ parkboard um so that um as we come to

2:03:00 ↗ the January parkboard meeting we'll um

2:03:03 ↗ really have a a good look at uh work

2:03:06 ↗ plan items um in

2:03:08 ↗ 2024 it will not be a boring year uh

2:03:11 ↗ we'll have more uh more exciting

2:03:13 ↗ discussions to to be

2:03:16 ↗ had thanks

2:03:17 ↗ all

2:03:20 ↗ okay uh anyone else have any other

2:03:24 ↗ business everybody's eager to get get

2:03:26 ↗ out the door on time or close to okay uh

2:03:30 ↗ real quick so then just to recap U you

2:03:33 ↗ know forel's presentation on economic

2:03:35 ↗ development got truncated a little bit

2:03:37 ↗ so please uh review the email and

2:03:41 ↗ provide him feedback that way and then

2:03:44 ↗ uh you'll notice at the end of the

2:03:45 ↗ packet that Asanti included the ongoing

2:03:48 ↗ calendar please take a look at

2:03:50 ↗ that and if there is nothing else then I

2:03:54 ↗ will adjourn the

2:03:57 ↗ meeting thank you everybody we'll see

2:04:00 ↗ you all in the new year January 22nd

2:04:03 ↗ will be our next

2:04:08 ↗ meeting

2:04:13 ↗ thanks

Approved minutes

Extracted from the next meeting's packet, where this meeting's minutes were approved as a consent-calendar attachment.

Open PDF

Attendance

Council / Members (9)

Chris Kovac

Marlene Waxse, Vice Chair (Virtual)

Zach Szablewski (Virtual)

Andrew Eliquen (Virtual)

David Liu

Nicholas Lee (Virtual)

Brenda Spears

Bradley Book

Ryan Olson

Staff (12)

Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director (Virtual)

Robin Spear, Park Planning & Development Manager

Julie Cassata, Senior Park Planner

Brian Berntsen, Recreation Services Manager

Hasanthi Piyasena, Department Operations Specialist (Virtual)

Valerie Porter, Associate Planner

Farel Otieno, Economic Development Coordinator

Brooke Hanley, NAC Consultant (Virtual)

Brian Love, NAC Consultant (Virtual)

Connie Marsh, Community Member (Virtual)

Arsheya Thakkar, IYAB Youth Rep

Sanvi Madan, IYAB Youth Rep

Excused

Katie Bell

Tim Motely

Andrew Myers

Recommendations & actions (5)

Sentences extracted from the narrative containing words like recommended, requested, directed, moved, or approved. Best-effort — verify against the full minutes for context.

There being no corrections, the minutes were approved as presented.
She recommended the removal of the language “where feasible” and “applicable” within the Comprehensive Plan around the policies for the Urban Forest Management Plan.
Brenda Spears motioned, David Liu seconded.
The motioned passed unanimously with 9 votes (all Alternates acted as Regular Members).
a) Chairperson's Report Chair Kovac recommended the board review the Issaquah Alps Trails club calendar and the Lake Sammamish State Park calendar for upcoming volunteer and engagement opportunities.