City Council Committee of the Whole Auto captions

Monday, February 13, 2023

6:30 PM · 1h 46m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA

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2. AGENDA ITEMS

Public Comment Public comment on individual agenda items will also be accepted following Council Q&A. 5 - 36 ID 1312 - WSDOT Fish Passage b) Replacement Project

60 min · Tim Nau, Washington Dept. of Transportation Kris Olsen, Washington Dept. of Transportation Matt Ellis, Utility Engineering Manager · packet pp.37–43

Topics: TransportationWater

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Staff report:

The Administration recommends City Council provide feedback during the Committee of the Whole meeting. The criteria will then be further refined with the identified boards (Environmental Board, Equity Board, Park Board, and Transportation Advisory Board) at the Feb. 16 Board Summit. Background On January 28, 2023 City Council had a retreat where members discussed the 2024-2029 Capital Improvement Plan update process. The City Council provided a list of its desired goals and outcomes of the CIP update. This list was then consolidated by the Administration into the attached chart. The

Capital Improvement Plan Goals, Outcomes & Project Selection Criteria ID 1398

45 min · Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator

Topics: Budget

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0:06 ↗ welcome everyone I call the February

0:08 ↗ 13th city council Committee of the whole

0:11 ↗ to meeting to order uh council member

0:15 ↗ Ray has an excused absence this meeting

0:17 ↗ uh this evening we will continue to have

0:20 ↗ a remote aspect of our meetings and both

0:23 ↗ staff and members of the public may be

0:25 ↗ participating in tonight's meeting

0:27 ↗ remotely

0:28 ↗ the first item on the agenda is public

0:34 ↗ comment and so we have an opportunity

0:37 ↗ for public comment clerk did we have

0:39 ↗ anyone who has signed up previous to

0:42 ↗ speak or who has indicated a desire to

0:45 ↗ speak online

0:46 ↗ so no one has signed up in advance to

0:48 ↗ speak I see one member of the public on

0:50 ↗ the virtual meeting so just waiting for

0:52 ↗ a quick moment to see

0:53 ↗ if there's a hand raised and as a

0:56 ↗ reminder public comment will also be

0:58 ↗ accepted after the staff presentation in

1:01 ↗ Council q a on each agenda item

1:03 ↗ and I I don't see that anyone online is

1:07 ↗ indicating a desire to speak nor in

1:09 ↗ person

1:11 ↗ nobody okay okay fantastic we will give

1:15 ↗ opportunities after each of our agenda

1:17 ↗ items we have two agenda items on

1:19 ↗ tonight's meeting ID one three one two

1:22 ↗ the wash dot fish fish passage

1:25 ↗ replacement project will be presented

1:28 ↗ we've got some guests from the

1:30 ↗ Washington Department of Transportation

1:31 ↗ Tim now and Chris Olsen along with Matt

1:36 ↗ Ellis our utility engineering manager

1:39 ↗ I'm not sure which one of you guys is

1:40 ↗ gonna start us off Matt okay take it

1:43 ↗ away thanks

1:46 ↗ hi good evening I'm Matt Ellis a utility

1:49 ↗ engineering manager for the City of

1:51 ↗ Issaquah and give me one second while I

1:53 ↗ try to get this going

1:57 ↗ I I have it up I just need to uh share

2:00 ↗ screens

2:11 ↗ oh

2:30 ↗ okay

2:36 ↗ not yet seeing your

2:40 ↗ and you're gonna have to mute

2:54 ↗ okay we're starting to see the screen

2:57 ↗ but it sounds like we've still got the

2:59 ↗ echo

3:02 ↗ now testing whether we've got the echo

3:04 ↗ okay we're solving problems over here

3:06 ↗ fantastic sorry about that

3:10 ↗ all right as I mentioned I'm here with

3:13 ↗ uh Tim now and Chris Olson from the

3:16 ↗ Washington State Department of uh

3:18 ↗ transportation and we're here to talk

3:20 ↗ about the wash dot fish passage

3:22 ↗ replacement project that includes I-90

3:25 ↗ Sr 169 Sr 509 and sr900

3:32 ↗ . the purpose of this project is to

3:34 ↗ update provide an update on watchdot's

3:36 ↗ project for fish passage replacement

3:43 ↗ uh and tonight we'll be asking for some

3:46 ↗ direction primarily the pro this meeting

3:49 ↗ will be just to present uh the project

3:51 ↗ in its hole there's quite a bit of

3:53 ↗ elements that we wanted to present to

3:55 ↗ council

3:56 ↗ um but part of it will be to ask for

3:58 ↗ input on suggested Community engagement

4:00 ↗ opportunities as well as provide input

4:03 ↗ on city council touch points throughout

4:05 ↗ the project it'll be quite a bit at the

4:07 ↗ end of this that we'll discuss and I'm

4:09 ↗ going to turn this over to Tim now and

4:11 ↗ Chris Olsen here in just one second I

4:13 ↗ just wanted to mention that there's

4:15 ↗ quite a bit of there's four uh different

4:18 ↗ areas that we'll be talking about and if

4:20 ↗ there are specific questions we can

4:22 ↗ pause the presentation and ask a few

4:24 ↗ questions uh in the middle and then at

4:27 ↗ the end we can go into a little bit more

4:28 ↗ detail and with that I'm going to pass

4:30 ↗ it over to Tim

4:36 ↗ thank you Matt I'd like to thank the

4:39 ↗ council for letting us come and talk to

4:41 ↗ you about this project let's start with

4:44 ↗ a little background

4:45 ↗ in 2013 a federal court injunction ruled

4:48 ↗ that state of Washington had

4:50 ↗ treaty-based duty to preserve fish runs

4:53 ↗ the injunction required washdot to

4:56 ↗ significantly increase the effort to

4:58 ↗ remove over 700 State cone culverts that

5:01 ↗ block habitat for six terminoids by

5:04 ↗ 2030. this project will replace 16 of

5:07 ↗ these fish passage barriers the project

5:10 ↗ will replace culverts in seven locations

5:12 ↗ three inside the City of Issaquah one

5:15 ↗ just outside the city and the rest are

5:17 ↗ locations on SR 169 near black diamond

5:20 ↗ and Sr 509 near Seatac we're only going

5:24 ↗ to talk about the four locations that

5:26 ↗ are in or near the City of Issaquah

5:29 ↗ for this project washout is using a

5:32 ↗ design build delivery method which

5:34 ↗ encourages contractors to come up with

5:36 ↗ efficiencies Innovation and cost savings

5:39 ↗ the design Builders determines the

5:41 ↗ details of the work that meets the

5:43 ↗ requirements set forth in the request

5:45 ↗ for proposals I will provide the best

5:48 ↗ information we have at this time but

5:50 ↗ some of the details will have to wait

5:51 ↗ until the design Builder has been

5:53 ↗ selected and the design Builder produces

5:56 ↗ information and a schedule

5:58 ↗ construction is scheduled to start in

6:01 ↗ 2024 work is scheduled to be completed

6:03 ↗ at all Sites by 2029

6:07 ↗ let's take a closer look at how this

6:10 ↗ project has evolved work began in 2020

6:13 ↗ with identifying The Crossings to

6:15 ↗ include in this project and evaluating

6:17 ↗ them in 2021 washed off began identified

6:21 ↗ the impacts with ongoing coordination

6:23 ↗ meetings with Issaquah and other

6:25 ↗ jurisdictions we are presently working

6:27 ↗ on developing the request for proposals

6:29 ↗ documents that will be issued to

6:31 ↗ qualified contractors in the fall of

6:33 ↗ 2023.

6:35 ↗ under the current schedule the apparent

6:37 ↗ value best value proposer will be

6:40 ↗ announced in early 2024 with

6:42 ↗ construction beginning In Summer of

6:44 ↗ 2024. because of the multiple locations

6:47 ↗ on I-90 Sr 169 Sr 509 and sr-900 the

6:52 ↗ exact timing and wind construction will

6:54 ↗ begin and be complete near is equal is

6:57 ↗ unknown construction at all locations

6:59 ↗ will be completed by in 2029

7:02 ↗ after the design Builder is announced

7:04 ↗ and begin developing construction plans

7:06 ↗ and sequencing more details about

7:09 ↗ construction timing and road closures

7:11 ↗ will be available

7:13 ↗ benefits removing the fish barrier is an

7:16 ↗ important element of wasthat's

7:18 ↗ commitment to help salmon recovery there

7:21 ↗ are many reasons why barriers need to be

7:23 ↗ removed the Culver the culverts in this

7:25 ↗ project hit all of the issues noted in

7:27 ↗ the graphic most notably water that

7:30 ↗ flows too fast or too slow sour water in

7:33 ↗ the pools below the Culvert and in the

7:35 ↗ Culvert itself the cover is just not

7:38 ↗ accessible Wasatch must replace them

7:40 ↗ with passages that are accessible and

7:43 ↗ provides habitat suitable to the fish at

7:46 ↗ all life stations this includes covered

7:48 ↗ in the injunction and fish covered by

7:50 ↗ state and local laws the benefit to

7:53 ↗ removing our significant in addition to

7:55 ↗ fish being culturally important to

7:57 ↗ tribes and as a food some fish are also

8:02 ↗ fish are also a food source for an

8:04 ↗ estimated 100 species including orca

8:06 ↗ whales the economic benefits are

8:09 ↗ important as well they support an

8:10 ↗ estimated 16 000 jobs and dreaded over

8:13 ↗ half 500 million in personal income

8:17 ↗ correcting these sites near Issaquah

8:19 ↗ will result in almost 15 000 meters of

8:22 ↗ potential habitat eight that's nine more

8:25 ↗ miles of potential Habitat to benefit

8:27 ↗ all all life stages

8:32 ↗ the City of Issaquah and was that design

8:34 ↗ team have been working together for on

8:36 ↗ this project for two years now this

8:38 ↗ slide includes some of the coordination

8:40 ↗ efforts between the city and Washington

8:42 ↗ that has happened or will happen we have

8:45 ↗ worked closely together on the RP

8:47 ↗ including standards incorporating

8:48 ↗ construction requirements and impacts on

8:51 ↗ city streets util and utility

8:53 ↗ coordination this will be the ongoing

8:55 ↗ effort throughout the construction to

8:57 ↗ ensure Washington and the city remain

8:59 ↗ actively engaged to ensure

9:02 ↗ project success but it's also worth

9:05 ↗ noting a few limitations for the city

9:07 ↗ including dictating the schedule

9:09 ↗ for uh

9:12 ↗ preventing the project from happening

9:14 ↗ and expanding or reducing the limits

9:17 ↗ confidentiality requirements also

9:19 ↗ restrict some of the information that we

9:21 ↗ can provide until after a design Builder

9:23 ↗ is selected and a contract is executed

9:27 ↗ now I'm going to give you a quick

9:29 ↗ overview of the four locations near as a

9:32 ↗ call

9:33 ↗ the first one is Lewis Creek which is

9:35 ↗ located on the Far West edge of the city

9:38 ↗ limits the second is actually two Creeks

9:41 ↗ West Village Park and Snyder Creeks they

9:43 ↗ are located close to Lake Sammamish the

9:46 ↗ Third location within the city limits is

9:48 ↗ a cluster of culverts called tributaries

9:50 ↗ to trivets Creek where sr-900 crosses

9:53 ↗ over 990 the final location is further

9:57 ↗ south on SR and I-90 on SR 90 at

10:00 ↗ Tibbetts Creek just outside the city

10:01 ↗ limits once again it's important for you

10:04 ↗ to keep in mind that specific details

10:06 ↗ about the design for each site when

10:09 ↗ closures will occur and how long they

10:11 ↗ won't how long they'll last won't be

10:14 ↗ known until the design Builder submits

10:15 ↗ their design and construction schedule

10:17 ↗ but it's also worth noting all designed

10:20 ↗ traffic control plans and other

10:21 ↗ submittals that affect is across streets

10:24 ↗ will be submitted to the city for

10:25 ↗ comments

10:28 ↗ now we're going to take a closer look at

10:30 ↗ each site starting with Lewis Creek on

10:32 ↗ the west boundary of Issaquah the

10:34 ↗ existing coverage is the Orange Line the

10:37 ↗ green line is the proposed new alignment

10:40 ↗ keep in mind that design Builder can

10:42 ↗ propose another alignment we don't

10:44 ↗ expect it to be much different than what

10:46 ↗ we have here there's been a lot of

10:48 ↗ coordination with the fish patches

10:49 ↗ program co-managers to get these

10:51 ↗ alignments changing the alignments would

10:53 ↗ require the design Builder to get new

10:55 ↗ approvals which is not easy

10:57 ↗ due to Elevation and Alignment changes

11:00 ↗ was start will also replace the Culvert

11:02 ↗ section near Newport Way and West Lake

11:04 ↗ Sammamish Parkway as you can see on this

11:07 ↗ map Newport and I-90 eastbound on the

11:09 ↗ ramp intersection will be relocated to

11:12 ↗ around and around about added

11:15 ↗ you can barely see the roundabout there

11:18 ↗ will be a new bridge between Lakemont

11:20 ↗ and the roundabout we determined that

11:23 ↗ designing and building a bridge that had

11:25 ↗ enough room for the creek under it and

11:27 ↗ it intersection on top of it would be

11:29 ↗ too difficult a better solution was to

11:32 ↗ move the intersection and add the

11:34 ↗ roundabout

11:35 ↗ here's a summary of what will happen at

11:38 ↗ Lewis Creek there will be two new

11:40 ↗ bridges on I-90 work will need to be

11:43 ↗ phased because

11:44 ↗ we will not allow a full closure of 990.

11:47 ↗ phasing will still be difficult we

11:50 ↗ expect the design Builder will shift

11:51 ↗ I-90 Lanes toward the median and reduce

11:54 ↗ the number of through lanes available

11:56 ↗ this allows them to build half of a

11:58 ↗ bridge at a time in One Direction then

12:01 ↗ Swap and work in the other direction and

12:03 ↗ we cannot say at this time how long Lane

12:05 ↗ reductions on I-90 will last

12:08 ↗ on West Lake Sammamish Parkway there is

12:10 ↗ not enough freeboard for Lewis Creek

12:12 ↗ under the road the roadway will be

12:15 ↗ raised to meet minimum freeboard and a

12:17 ↗ new bridge Bill we have a preliminary

12:19 ↗ design that only impacts one driveway

12:22 ↗ and we are working with that property

12:23 ↗ owner on a new driveway design to

12:27 ↗ complete a fish Passage West Village

12:29 ↗ West Lake Sammamish Parkway will be

12:32 ↗ fully closed for a limited amount of

12:33 ↗ time and a detour will be signed on

12:36 ↗ Newport Way building the new bridge will

12:39 ↗ require a full closure of the roadway

12:41 ↗ for a limited amount of time there will

12:43 ↗ be a detour building the roundabout will

12:46 ↗ not require additional closure of

12:48 ↗ Newport Way please note that Newport Way

12:51 ↗ and West Lake Sammamish Parkway will not

12:53 ↗ be closed at the same time

12:55 ↗ in summary the work on Lewis should take

12:58 ↗ two to three years when completed there

13:00 ↗ will be four new Bridges and new

13:02 ↗ roundabout work will require I-90 land

13:04 ↗ reductions street closures and detours

13:07 ↗ we have been working with local

13:08 ↗ utilities and one last topic for this

13:11 ↗ area

13:12 ↗ with the relocation of Newport Way

13:14 ↗ intersection the washed out limited

13:16 ↗ access in this area will need to be

13:18 ↗ adjusted being so close to Lakemont

13:21 ↗ Boulevard Newport Way intersection is

13:24 ↗ create some additional issues that we're

13:26 ↗ currently working through

13:28 ↗ at this time we were paused for a couple

13:30 ↗ of questions if anybody has any for this

13:32 ↗ area we do have a question councilmember

13:34 ↗ D Michelle

13:36 ↗ thank you thanks for all this

13:38 ↗ information really appreciate it and

13:40 ↗ this might be a question for Matt

13:43 ↗ um they've had a lot of work out there

13:45 ↗ on the West Lakes Sammamish Parkway for

13:48 ↗ a number of years now and all those new

13:51 ↗ sound barriers have gone up and I'm just

13:53 ↗ wondering if this construction is going

13:55 ↗ to disturb any of that work or will it

13:58 ↗ be basically going under all the work

14:01 ↗ that's been done that is a good question

14:03 ↗ actually the next set of slides we'll

14:06 ↗ talk about that portion that was if that

14:09 ↗ these sound barriers were installed and

14:13 ↗ the

14:14 ↗ I don't believe there will be any impact

14:17 ↗ to the sound walls themselves because of

14:20 ↗ the reroute that washdot is proposing

14:23 ↗ that'll be in the next the West Village

14:25 ↗ Park in Schneider Creek section

14:29 ↗ thank you

14:32 ↗ okay I think we're good with questions

14:34 ↗ on Lewis Creek and you can continue

14:36 ↗ thank you

14:37 ↗ moving on to West Village and Snyder

14:40 ↗ Creeks the existing culverts are in the

14:43 ↗ orange lines again the green line is the

14:45 ↗ proposed new alignment with this is a

14:48 ↗ major alignment change for West Village

14:50 ↗ Park Creek the existing Culvert is way

14:53 ↗ too Steep and trying to keep the creek

14:55 ↗ near the existing alignment creates a

14:57 ↗ creek that is still too steep to fix it

15:00 ↗ West Village Park Creek will be

15:02 ↗ realigned along watchdot right away on

15:04 ↗ the south side of I-90 it will then

15:06 ↗ merge with Snyder Creek and cross I-90

15:09 ↗ we will then create a new alignment for

15:11 ↗ our better stream channel too late

15:13 ↗ Sammamish again due to Elevation and

15:16 ↗ Alignment changes was thought will need

15:18 ↗ to replace the Culvert sections under

15:20 ↗ Newport Way and Northwest of Mammy's

15:22 ↗ Road

15:25 ↗ here's a summary of the fit planned work

15:27 ↗ two new bridges on 90 will be allowed

15:30 ↗ will allow the combined Creeks to flow

15:32 ↗ under the Interstate I-90 will need to

15:34 ↗ be raised to meet the free board

15:36 ↗ requirements work will Begin Again need

15:39 ↗ to be phased and with Lane reductions

15:42 ↗ and shifting of the lanes to allow

15:43 ↗ contractor to work in One Direction at a

15:46 ↗ time

15:46 ↗ the combined Creek will flow under

15:49 ↗ Northwest Sammamish road which will also

15:52 ↗ have a new bridge Northwest of average

15:54 ↗ Road will be closed to get the work

15:56 ↗ completed and have traffic on the new

15:58 ↗ bridge as soon as possible Newport Way

16:00 ↗ on the other side of I-90 will also have

16:03 ↗ a new bridge

16:04 ↗ in combination with Lewis Creek work to

16:06 ↗ the east no two city streets closers

16:09 ↗ will be allowed at the same time we

16:11 ↗ don't want conflicting detours

16:13 ↗ the work on West Village Park and Snyder

16:16 ↗ Creeks will take two to three years to

16:18 ↗ complete when done there will be four

16:20 ↗ new Bridges and a new stream alignment

16:22 ↗ we'll continue to work closely with the

16:25 ↗ city on detour routes local street

16:27 ↗ closures and utility impacts and one

16:29 ↗ last no we are reviewing the city's

16:31 ↗ project plan for this area to make sure

16:34 ↗ our project is forward compatible with

16:36 ↗ the city projects at this time we'll

16:38 ↗ pause for any questions on this site

16:43 ↗ oh yes council member marks thank you

16:47 ↗ um so bringing two Creeks together

16:51 ↗ has hydrological and

16:54 ↗ limbological uh implications for

16:57 ↗ flooding and turbidity and all that

16:59 ↗ how's that assessment going to be done I

17:02 ↗ yet when we get heavy rains like we have

17:04 ↗ right now you're going to be having

17:05 ↗ Twice The Watershed flowing through that

17:07 ↗ new lower Creek

17:12 ↗ for the part that's actually underneath

17:14 ↗ I-90

17:16 ↗ um where it's going to be quite a bit

17:18 ↗ wider than the other one is right now

17:20 ↗ all these fish passages are a lot wider

17:23 ↗ than the Culvert that comes into it

17:26 ↗ um

17:27 ↗ and so the flooding is going to be minor

17:30 ↗ or the increased flow will be minor but

17:34 ↗ with the free boards we have fairly

17:36 ↗ strict free boards

17:37 ↗ um hey upwards of 10 feet above the

17:40 ↗ elevation of the 100 Year storm and

17:42 ↗ that's why I-90 is having to be raised

17:45 ↗ in this section is that we are looking

17:47 ↗ at those flooding issues how much

17:50 ↗ um on the south on the north side of

17:52 ↗ I-90 that's already a flood plain for

17:55 ↗ the Forest Lake Sammamish so where our

17:59 ↗ little increase is not going to make

18:00 ↗ that much difference in that area

18:03 ↗ so thank you but we do look at flood

18:05 ↗ flooding Downstream we have restrictions

18:08 ↗ that we have to be within three look

18:09 ↗ seriously out 300 feet either side of

18:11 ↗ the Stream

18:12 ↗ Crossing

18:14 ↗ that looks like all of our questions on

18:16 ↗ this one

18:18 ↗ okay

18:19 ↗ um tributaries to Tibbetts Creek moving

18:22 ↗ on to the tributes Creek on the 90s our

18:25 ↗ 900 interchange new fish passage

18:28 ↗ structures are going to be built very

18:29 ↗ close to the existing Culvert there will

18:32 ↗ be a total of Seven Bridges 4 I-90 one

18:35 ↗ on sr900 that will also extend over the

18:37 ↗ southbound sr-900 to westbound I-90 ramp

18:40 ↗ the other on the Northbound sr-900 ramp

18:44 ↗ to the westbound I-90 and a bridge on

18:46 ↗ the westbound I-90 off-ramp will also

18:49 ↗ replace a culvert on Gilman Boulevard

18:52 ↗ this work will also need to be phased to

18:55 ↗ build the new unanny Bridges and the

18:57 ↗ bridges on 900. we anticipate the

19:00 ↗ contractor will reduce liens on I-90 and

19:02 ↗ shift traffic so they can build one half

19:04 ↗ of the bridge at a time this will be

19:06 ↗ also true for the sr900 there will be a

19:10 ↗ limited foreclosures of the ramp ramp

19:12 ↗ closers will not be allowed if it

19:14 ↗ affects the detours of other ramp

19:16 ↗ closers

19:17 ↗ work on Gilman Boulevard will be handled

19:19 ↗ similar to sr-900 with lane closures and

19:23 ↗ traffic ships Gilman also has a sewer

19:25 ↗ line that we are working with utility

19:27 ↗ owner to adjust

19:29 ↗ the work on this area will also take two

19:31 ↗ to three years to complete we expect

19:33 ↗ some of this work May overlap with other

19:36 ↗ locations but we don't expect any three

19:39 ↗ locations built will be built and

19:41 ↗ completed in the same two to three year

19:42 ↗ period bottom line is the design Builder

19:45 ↗ will be required to complete all the

19:47 ↗ project work by the end of 2029. I also

19:50 ↗ want to note that we have regular

19:52 ↗ meetings with the utility owners and are

19:54 ↗ working forward on a plan to handle the

19:56 ↗ utilities

19:57 ↗ at this time we'll pause for any

19:59 ↗ questions about this site

20:02 ↗ Deputy council president Hull uh thank

20:04 ↗ you just a quick one so you've mentioned

20:05 ↗ utility impacts a couple times is that

20:07 ↗ just

20:08 ↗ um like relocating existing assets are

20:11 ↗ we anticipating service interruptions

20:13 ↗ for particular I'm sorry I didn't hear

20:14 ↗ you can you repeat that uh yeah so

20:17 ↗ you've mentioned um utility impacts a

20:19 ↗ couple times was that is that just

20:22 ↗ relocating of existing assets that we

20:25 ↗ have in terms of infrastructure or is it

20:27 ↗ service interruptions to our community

20:30 ↗ we are not sure on WE the utilities are

20:33 ↗ going to be entire to relocating their

20:36 ↗ utilities so impacts the service

20:38 ↗ hopefully it's minimized it's up to them

20:41 ↗ to determine when their best time is

20:44 ↗ these relocations can be everything for

20:46 ↗ well yeah we have to drop it down we

20:48 ↗ have to move it over to

20:51 ↗ um on one of them we're actually going

20:52 ↗ to be putting in a culvert instead of a

20:54 ↗ bridge so that the the utility can stay

20:58 ↗ in the same location supported why we go

21:00 ↗ and put a culvert underneath it so that

21:04 ↗ won't be functioning we'll never lose

21:05 ↗ any time

21:07 ↗ um and so we're we're a lot of utilities

21:10 ↗ a lot of and each one we're handling a

21:12 ↗ little differently

21:14 ↗ so case specific

21:17 ↗ Matt do you have anything to add from

21:18 ↗ the city's perspective yeah um so

21:21 ↗ part of our discussions with washdot is

21:23 ↗ that we will

21:25 ↗ be able to put in to their uh RFP the

21:29 ↗ request for proposal for their design

21:30 ↗ Builder certain requirements for our

21:33 ↗ utilities so ones that they need to

21:38 ↗ relocate or coordinate on their projects

21:41 ↗ will have the ability to put in

21:43 ↗ conditions about how long a service

21:45 ↗ disconnection can occur for our water

21:48 ↗ there's very strict times that of the

21:51 ↗ water can be turned off or we have

21:53 ↗ enough room in our reservoirs to provide

21:55 ↗ service to customers and then the

21:58 ↗ Bellevue squat pipeline will be impacted

22:00 ↗ they also will have specific conditions

22:02 ↗ and requirements as well and we're

22:03 ↗ working with them and then our sewer

22:05 ↗ line will also be impacted and that will

22:07 ↗ be on us to relocate but we will

22:11 ↗ there'll be a workaround

22:15 ↗ okay and I've got a question on many of

22:18 ↗ these areas you're charting an area that

22:21 ↗ on the I-90 we're hoping that SG3 is on

22:27 ↗ Transit Light Rail will come down I

22:30 ↗ assume that any Bridges or areas that

22:34 ↗ are built would be built to a spec that

22:37 ↗ would support a light rail going down

22:39 ↗ the center of I-90 and wouldn't cause an

22:42 ↗ interruption with that planning

22:45 ↗ we are not reducing the median we have

22:48 ↗ had talked to sound sound transit or the

22:51 ↗ Light Rail and their plans are

22:56 ↗ um really tough to design around because

22:59 ↗ they're not of any any place really the

23:03 ↗ closest we have is that it's going down

23:04 ↗ the median we are not we're moving over

23:07 ↗ in the median during construction

23:09 ↗ the lanes are going back to where they

23:11 ↗ are right now when they when we're done

23:13 ↗ so we're not widening anything we're

23:15 ↗ just keeping it in the same location so

23:17 ↗ that's all temporary whatever and so we

23:20 ↗ should have minimum if any impact to

23:23 ↗ their plans on the Sound Transit

23:26 ↗ um so beyond width what about like

23:30 ↗ the heaviness of the trains and all of

23:35 ↗ that I assume you would develop toward a

23:38 ↗ there would be a requirement that it

23:40 ↗ could support

23:41 ↗ any light rail that might go there in

23:43 ↗ there in the future the outside of our

23:46 ↗ roadway we open up the creek

23:49 ↗ and it's an open open Channel so we have

23:51 ↗ no bridge where they will be put in the

23:53 ↗ sound transit trains on so if they put a

23:56 ↗ bridge there they're going to have to

23:58 ↗ design it to their trainer

24:01 ↗ so we're not we're not we're we're

24:03 ↗ trying to open the extreme up as much as

24:05 ↗ we possibly can and instead of like on

24:08 ↗ Lewis one Creek it's actually Four

24:11 ↗ culverts instead of one culvert got it

24:14 ↗ so what I'm seeing on the image

24:17 ↗ um is actually the Gap in Between the

24:21 ↗ Lions isn't an area that is bridged and

24:24 ↗ if Light Rail was going to go in there

24:27 ↗ they would have to build their own

24:28 ↗ bridge to accommodate yep and they have

24:31 ↗ to deal with the

24:33 ↗ then going over a creek and everything

24:34 ↗ else you have to do it okay okay so we

24:37 ↗ should be minimizing like I said minimal

24:39 ↗ if any

24:40 ↗ to Sound Transit yeah because you're

24:42 ↗ designing toward what the roadway size

24:44 ↗ is at this point so okay I got any other

24:47 ↗ questions nope I think we can move on

24:49 ↗ okay

24:51 ↗ um the sr900 tributes Crossing south of

24:54 ↗ the city is straightforward although

24:55 ↗ it's outside the city limits we wanted

24:57 ↗ to make sure you're aware of it this is

24:59 ↗ a one Crossing with only minor alignment

25:01 ↗ and elevation changes

25:03 ↗ this fish passage barrier will replace

25:06 ↗ the on with either a bridge or Culvert

25:09 ↗ there will be some Lane shifting and a

25:12 ↗ limited full closure there will be a

25:14 ↗ detour during the full closer the work

25:17 ↗ should take between three months and a

25:18 ↗ year to complete at this time we can

25:21 ↗ pause questions on this area

25:24 ↗ council member marks

25:26 ↗ how large will the uh d2r be in this

25:29 ↗ case well no I'm sorry how large will

25:32 ↗ the detour be in this case for that one

25:35 ↗ substantial because there's not a whole

25:38 ↗ lot that goes through that area we will

25:40 ↗ have to look at we're working on detour

25:43 ↗ plans as we speak I got a meeting two

25:46 ↗ days to talk about them

25:48 ↗ and it's this is one of them that is a

25:51 ↗ tough one because there's always so many

25:53 ↗ ways there's only what four ways to get

25:55 ↗ across that little Ridge of mountains

25:57 ↗ and this is one of there's no side

26:00 ↗ weight around it that's why we are we

26:02 ↗ are pushing for a lot of

26:05 ↗ um a clo a box Culvert type situation

26:08 ↗ that we can do one weekend and get most

26:11 ↗ of it in there and get the uh get out of

26:14 ↗ there and we're not in there so extend

26:15 ↗ it closer for a weekend one weekend

26:17 ↗ we're not talking months or anything for

26:19 ↗ our closer we're talking quick get in

26:22 ↗ there and get out of there because of

26:23 ↗ that and so that's why there will be

26:24 ↗ some Lane shifting to prep up for the

26:26 ↗ work work to do the Culvert replacement

26:29 ↗ because this is a state highway is there

26:31 ↗ a limit to how far you can detour

26:35 ↗ um

26:36 ↗ not that I know of

26:38 ↗ usually we just have to deal with what

26:40 ↗ we can is there a city street we can

26:43 ↗ getting agreements with cities through

26:45 ↗ the ground there but there isn't

26:46 ↗ anything in this area for that so we're

26:49 ↗ pretty much looking at either getting

26:50 ↗ them off of four or five or send them

26:52 ↗ down Front Street

26:53 ↗ which is pretty busy road already

26:56 ↗ I was on the planning on that one too

27:00 ↗ all right thank you to follow up on that

27:03 ↗ question

27:04 ↗ um Front Street doesn't allow for trucks

27:07 ↗ and so it would any detour account for

27:12 ↗ that if you're detouring if you decide

27:15 ↗ to detour traffic to Front Street and we

27:20 ↗ have no trucks allowed would they be

27:22 ↗ required to detour a different direction

27:24 ↗ we have done split detours where trucks

27:28 ↗ have to do a 1-1 and one have to and

27:30 ↗ some have to go another and then we rely

27:32 ↗ heavily on

27:34 ↗ on Chris's Pio group for trying to get

27:37 ↗ that information out there

27:40 ↗ um but yeah that uh that we've done it

27:43 ↗ and we've had to do it

27:46 ↗ I'm not seeing any other questions there

27:50 ↗ so I think we can move on okay I'd like

27:52 ↗ to introduce Chris ocean she'll talk

27:54 ↗ about the symphony impacts traffic

27:57 ↗ impacts in the Puget Sound area and the

28:00 ↗ ongoing Pio work on the project thank

28:02 ↗ you

28:04 ↗ thanks Tim yeah we have noticed when

28:06 ↗ we've tried to do split detours in the

28:08 ↗ past that Truckers tend not to follow

28:10 ↗ that so it's best to just do one

28:13 ↗ so um yes as Tim said I'm going to talk

28:15 ↗ about major Puget Sound construction so

28:16 ↗ the construction work that we have

28:18 ↗ talked about here tonight is just a few

28:21 ↗ of the projects that we have coming

28:24 ↗ um into the Puget Sound area over the

28:26 ↗ next several years all around the Puget

28:28 ↗ Sound region along the I-90 Corridor

28:31 ↗ alone

28:32 ↗ we have of course The i-90s r18

28:34 ↗ Interchange Improvement project with

28:36 ↗ heavy construction ramping up on that

28:38 ↗ later this year and completion plan for

28:41 ↗ late 2024. there is a fish passage

28:44 ↗ project on I-90 just east of the I-405

28:48 ↗ chain interchange at Sunset Creek that

28:50 ↗ will also have long-term Lane reductions

28:53 ↗ on I-90 and shifts in both directions of

28:56 ↗ I-90 very similar to what Tim talked

28:58 ↗ about for some of the lane reductions

29:00 ↗ we're expecting on these fish passage

29:01 ↗ projects

29:03 ↗ and that project is also combined with

29:05 ↗ four other fish passage locations with

29:08 ↗ completion expected in 2026.

29:11 ↗ in the summer of 2024 and 2025 we'll

29:14 ↗ have work on another fish passage

29:16 ↗ replacement project on I-90 at soderman

29:18 ↗ Creek near Preston and we also have a

29:21 ↗ lot of preservation work planned all

29:23 ↗ around the Puget Sound area in summer

29:26 ↗ 2023 we're going to be replacing select

29:29 ↗ concrete panels on I-90 about a one mile

29:33 ↗ section east of Issaquah and this work

29:35 ↗ also includes repairs of two Bridges

29:38 ↗ along the East Fork Issaquah Creek

29:39 ↗ between Preston and Highlands Drive

29:42 ↗ Northeast and as early as 2025 we could

29:46 ↗ see work begin on widening sr18 between

29:48 ↗ Issaquah Hobart Road and Deep Creek

29:51 ↗ pending legislative Direction quite

29:54 ↗ honestly there is no way to avoid the

29:56 ↗ travel disruptions that we're going to

29:57 ↗ experience over the next three years I

30:00 ↗ mean it's going to significantly affect

30:02 ↗ people's ability to get around

30:04 ↗ um so wash. Communications does plan on

30:07 ↗ an extensive Outreach campaign to

30:10 ↗ encourage roadways users to remain

30:11 ↗ engaged and ensure they know about road

30:14 ↗ work closures increase congestion not

30:17 ↗ only for this project that we've talked

30:19 ↗ about tonight

30:20 ↗ but for all of the work all around Puget

30:22 ↗ Sound that's going to occur over the

30:23 ↗ next several years

30:25 ↗ but for this fish passage replacement

30:27 ↗ work that will affect the people in the

30:29 ↗ in this community we plan to brief

30:31 ↗ essential services including school

30:33 ↗ districts Transit Chambers of Commerce

30:35 ↗ emergency response agencies and others

30:38 ↗ they'll receive updates throughout the

30:39 ↗ course of those work and the project web

30:41 ↗ pages for it are under construction

30:43 ↗ right now and should hopefully be

30:45 ↗ published by the end of this week washed

30:47 ↗ out is going to use every tool in its

30:49 ↗ toolbox over the next three years

30:51 ↗ social media traditional media news

30:54 ↗ releases travel advisories regular

30:56 ↗ briefings with traffic reporters and

30:59 ↗ news conferences we have a weekly email

31:01 ↗ letter that we send out we are planning

31:04 ↗ on an online open house this spring

31:06 ↗ specifically for this these projects

31:08 ↗ around Issaquah and we'll have ongoing

31:10 ↗ virtual and in-person Community

31:12 ↗ engagement opportunities before and

31:14 ↗ during construction

31:16 ↗ uh coordination and sharing information

31:18 ↗ and Communications materials with the

31:20 ↗ City of Issaquah staff will promote

31:23 ↗ maximum Community engagement and

31:25 ↗ information and knowledge about the work

31:27 ↗ that is occurring and of course the city

31:29 ↗ council you will receive ongoing

31:31 ↗ briefings at Major touch points or

31:34 ↗ milestones

31:35 ↗ also the selected design Builder is

31:38 ↗ expected to engage with the affected

31:40 ↗ communities this includes advance notice

31:42 ↗ on the highways alerting travelers to

31:45 ↗ Lane shifts and closures they will be

31:47 ↗ required to hire a Communications

31:48 ↗ specialist dedicated to this project to

31:52 ↗ make sure that communities and

31:54 ↗ neighborhoods know about project

31:56 ↗ specifics answering questions and making

31:59 ↗ sure people of Issaquah know what's

32:01 ↗ happening where and when and now at this

32:04 ↗ point I'd like to turn it back over to

32:06 ↗ Matt

32:07 ↗ before we go into the city we've got a

32:09 ↗ question council member D Michelle

32:13 ↗ thanks uh I I sent this question to Matt

32:16 ↗ earlier so uh I was when I read this was

32:19 ↗ like oh my gosh

32:22 ↗ um

32:23 ↗ and uh in addition to all the things

32:25 ↗ that you're talking about here uh we

32:27 ↗ have World Cup coming in 2026 and I

32:30 ↗ understand we're going to get a PGA

32:32 ↗ tournament up in uh Sammamish and

32:34 ↗ construction season his tourist season

32:37 ↗ and all of those all those good things

32:39 ↗ so uh you mentioned that working with

32:41 ↗ Transit and

32:43 ↗ um I'm wondering if you could go into a

32:46 ↗ little bit more detail about that and

32:48 ↗ then how do we encourage the people in

32:51 ↗ our community and also all the

32:53 ↗ communities along I-90 to take advantage

32:56 ↗ of Transit and ride shares and vanpools

32:59 ↗ and bicycling and all all the time

33:03 ↗ things that you can do to get cars off

33:05 ↗ the road because

33:07 ↗ um all of this on top of one and uh you

33:09 ↗ know happening all at the same time is

33:11 ↗ going to be quite a challenge I'm sure

33:13 ↗ it is going to be a huge Challenge and

33:15 ↗ yes we are aware of the 2026 World Cup

33:18 ↗ and I think it's the KPMG women's PGA

33:22 ↗ classic or Championship like you're

33:24 ↗ talking about plus we have the Boeing

33:25 ↗ class like of course

33:27 ↗ those have all been added to our request

33:29 ↗ for proposal the tricky part about

33:31 ↗ encouraging people to take transit right

33:33 ↗ now is that Transit agencies are also

33:36 ↗ suffering from a lack of drivers because

33:39 ↗ of the need for drivers who have CDLs so

33:43 ↗ everybody's kind of dealing that with

33:44 ↗ right now without not having enough

33:46 ↗ drivers with CDLs

33:47 ↗ so it's going to take a concerted effort

33:49 ↗ with a city staff with all the studies

33:53 ↗ honestly all around the Puget Sound area

33:57 ↗ this is going to be disruptive there is

33:59 ↗ just no way around it it's going to be

34:01 ↗ disruptive on at pretty much every major

34:03 ↗ Interstate no matter where you go in the

34:06 ↗ region so

34:08 ↗ while we can encourage people to use

34:10 ↗ transit to use bicycle bicycles right

34:14 ↗ you know we can do all of those things

34:16 ↗ but we really need people to stay

34:18 ↗ engaged and and change their behavior

34:20 ↗ and it is going to be a group effort

34:23 ↗ so as we move forward with all of our

34:25 ↗ planning you know we're going to be

34:27 ↗ working with staff from all the various

34:30 ↗ cities that are affected because it's

34:31 ↗ not just Issaquah I know that's your

34:33 ↗ Prime concern but you know we're not

34:35 ↗ directing this at your city by any means

34:37 ↗ it's everybody

34:39 ↗ um to to find the best ways to engage

34:43 ↗ with the citizens of those of those

34:45 ↗ areas

34:46 ↗ and it's it's an ongoing and ever

34:48 ↗ developing and evolving plan that we're

34:51 ↗ working on

34:54 ↗ okay and it looks like we've also got a

34:56 ↗ question from Deputy council president

34:57 ↗ Hall

34:58 ↗ uh thank you I forgot to ask this

35:00 ↗ earlier that um are we envisioning

35:01 ↗ selecting One Design builder for the

35:04 ↗ whole sewer projects or several

35:06 ↗ it should be just a single design

35:08 ↗ Builder okay when does the RFP go out

35:12 ↗ the RP goes out in September the RFQ add

35:16 ↗ date is actually in

35:19 ↗ is actually going to be in May but uh

35:21 ↗ but we're looking more in September

35:23 ↗ November for the RFP uh uh submittal to

35:27 ↗ the proposals that meet the RFQ

35:30 ↗ requirements

35:36 ↗ to the city

35:40 ↗ thank you okay

35:43 ↗ as Tim and Chris mentioned staff are in

35:45 ↗ the process process of engaging with

35:47 ↗ washdoc currently there is a team

35:49 ↗ involved in this engagement effort that

35:51 ↗ spans across multiple departments this

35:53 ↗ is being led by Public Works staff and

35:56 ↗ one element we are engaging on is

35:57 ↗ coordination on City projects the work

36:00 ↗ will impact timing and design

36:01 ↗ considerations of tr-28 Northwest

36:04 ↗ Sammamish Road non-motorized Improvement

36:06 ↗ project

36:07 ↗ washed out will be raising the roadway

36:09 ↗ and we will be widening the roadway so

36:11 ↗ there's quite a bit of Engagement and

36:13 ↗ elements that we need to discuss these

36:16 ↗ elements will be brought before the

36:18 ↗ mobility and infrastructure committee on

36:20 ↗ the on March 14th

36:22 ↗ work will unpack Park facilities and

36:24 ↗ park staff are currently coordinating

36:26 ↗ with Washita and on impact to Sammamish

36:28 ↗ Cove Park as well as other Trailhead and

36:31 ↗ pedestrian connectors that will be

36:32 ↗ impacted by the work staff are working

36:34 ↗ with Cascade water Alliance as the work

36:36 ↗ will impact the Bellevue isqua Pipeline

36:38 ↗ and at two locations along Newport Way

36:41 ↗ in collaboration with washdot we are

36:43 ↗ evaluating closures and Detour

36:45 ↗ implications and determining allowable

36:47 ↗ closures to city streets to install

36:49 ↗ specific items work will have major

36:51 ↗ impacts not only to known infrastructure

36:53 ↗ but added traffic to city streets as

36:55 ↗ detours are put into place and Lane

36:57 ↗ reductions occur on the freeway

36:59 ↗ washout's work will also generate new

37:02 ↗ CIP projects that the city will need to

37:04 ↗ incorporate on in the next round of CIP

37:06 ↗ development including revising sediment

37:08 ↗ ponds along Newport Way that connect to

37:10 ↗ West Village Park Creek and relocating

37:12 ↗ 1400 feet of gravity sewer the line that

37:15 ↗ is currently located in Washington

37:16 ↗ limited access right-of-way along

37:18 ↗ Newport Way

37:20 ↗ Futures Council engagement points in

37:24 ↗ your packet tonight staff have

37:25 ↗ highlighted some future engagement

37:27 ↗ opportunities where we will bring

37:29 ↗ specific elements related to

37:30 ↗ Washington's work to the council in the

37:32 ↗ near in the coming Future these include

37:34 ↗ on February 21st I will be discussing

37:37 ↗ franchise agreements for City

37:38 ↗ infrastructure in wash. right-of-way

37:40 ↗ these are for existing facilities in

37:42 ↗ Washington right-of-way for which a

37:44 ↗ franchise agreement has either expired

37:45 ↗ or never been filed and that will be

37:48 ↗ impacted by Washington's work uh again

37:50 ↗ like I mentioned earlier on March 14th

37:53 ↗ we'll be going to uh the mobility and

37:56 ↗ infrastructure to talk about Northwest

37:57 ↗ members road to talk about a preferred

38:00 ↗ cross section for that project we will

38:02 ↗ also talk about washdot's impacts of

38:04 ↗ that project with the Schneider Creek

38:06 ↗ Crossing

38:08 ↗ in the second quarter of 2023 we'll go

38:10 ↗ back to mni staff will provide

38:13 ↗ recommendations and provide Council the

38:15 ↗ opportunity to provide input on others

38:17 ↗ on City street closures and detours

38:21 ↗ uh in the second uh or third quarter of

38:24 ↗ 2023 uh we'll uh be discussing turn back

38:28 ↗ agreements uh at Lewis Creek and that

38:30 ↗ was the first location we talked about

38:32 ↗ with the roundabout and the bridge and

38:35 ↗ where wash dot access is and where the

38:37 ↗ city's uh right-of-way begins this will

38:40 ↗ be a larger discussion of this qua and

38:42 ↗ Bellevue as the project straddles the

38:43 ↗ border between the two cities and

38:45 ↗ ownership of certain right-of-way will

38:47 ↗ revise the maintenance and operations

38:48 ↗ needs in the future

38:50 ↗ in the second quarter of 2024

38:53 ↗ will provide written information to the

38:56 ↗ Council on the update of the Culvert

38:59 ↗ replacement schedule that will be

39:00 ↗ provided by the design Builder

39:03 ↗ uh with the support of the design

39:04 ↗ Builder we will also provide periodic

39:06 ↗ project updates from 2024 through 2029

39:09 ↗ uh for the specific uh for each specific

39:13 ↗ project and other possible Council touch

39:16 ↗ points will include discussions

39:17 ↗ regarding policy questions contractual

39:19 ↗ obligations future maintenance

39:21 ↗ responsibilities and specific updates

39:24 ↗ for each project

39:26 ↗ uh one of the main elements that staff

39:28 ↗ are working with washed out on is

39:29 ↗ develop development of a community

39:31 ↗ engagement plan Community engagement

39:33 ↗ will be primarily the responsibility of

39:35 ↗ washdot and their contractor however

39:37 ↗ staff are looking into ways to support

39:39 ↗ their efforts and ensure an engagement

39:40 ↗ plan that fits the needs of our

39:42 ↗ community is entered into the washout

39:44 ↗ contract with their design Builder in

39:46 ↗ 2023 Washington will hold its initial

39:49 ↗ online open houses Chris mentioned staff

39:52 ↗ will be engaged in this virtual

39:53 ↗ presentation to communicate impacts to

39:55 ↗ city streets and neighborhoods and

39:57 ↗ messaging that will be provided through

39:59 ↗ City resources such as our website and

40:01 ↗ notifications

40:02 ↗ the city web page will support the

40:04 ↗ wash.web page with pertinent information

40:06 ↗ specific to Issaquah residents

40:09 ↗ a more robust engagement plan will be

40:11 ↗ refined once Washita is secured a design

40:13 ↗ build contractor for the work and a

40:15 ↗ schedule is developed for the multiple

40:17 ↗ impacts of city streets

40:18 ↗ in 2024 uh in the spring of 2024

40:22 ↗ specific neighborhood engagement will be

40:23 ↗ developed for the design Builder this

40:25 ↗ will be catered to the neighborhoods

40:27 ↗ that will be impacted such as when a

40:28 ↗ defined schedule and details evolve at

40:30 ↗ the Newport Way

40:32 ↗ intersight roadway a Newport meeting

40:36 ↗ will be developed similar meetings will

40:37 ↗ occur on Northwest samash Road and West

40:39 ↗ Lakes membership Parkway

40:41 ↗ we are still strategizing opportunities

40:43 ↗ to engage uh on impacts to sr900 and

40:46 ↗ Gilman as these impacts are not

40:48 ↗ neighborhood specific and will impact a

40:50 ↗ larger portion of our community

40:52 ↗ the city will support washed out in

40:54 ↗ their mailers as well as social media

40:56 ↗ engagement

41:00 ↗ and this leads to a direction needed to

41:03 ↗ needed tonight with the understanding

41:04 ↗ that a full engagement plan hasn't fully

41:06 ↗ been developed are there additional

41:08 ↗ messaging strategies or engagement

41:10 ↗ opportunities that Council feels the

41:12 ↗ community would benefit from

41:14 ↗ and we would also like council's input

41:16 ↗ on city council touch points throughout

41:18 ↗ the project are there more touch points

41:20 ↗ that you would like to see or other

41:21 ↗ strategy strategies that we should

41:23 ↗ employ

41:24 ↗ and with that leave it up for questions

41:27 ↗ Oh wrong direction

41:31 ↗ okay I'm wondering if we have any

41:33 ↗ questions before we go to a public

41:35 ↗ comment and then any deliberation

41:38 ↗ comments

41:41 ↗ you have a question okay uh Deputy

41:43 ↗ council president Hull followed by

41:45 ↗ council member marks uh thank you I just

41:47 ↗ had two more questions that I thought of

41:50 ↗ um

41:51 ↗ uh first is for City staff so are we

41:54 ↗ anticipating this might be something if

41:56 ↗ this is going to come before the

41:57 ↗ mobility and infrastructure committee

41:58 ↗ feel free to just cut me off or

42:00 ↗ um but are we anticipating needing to

42:02 ↗ prioritize any capital

42:04 ↗ projects before the next biennial budget

42:07 ↗ like not just in this CIP that working

42:09 ↗ on now but kind of in the mid biennial

42:11 ↗ process this year to get ready for some

42:13 ↗ of this like you talked about sewer

42:15 ↗ impacts is there anything that we can be

42:17 ↗ doing earlier rather than later to

42:19 ↗ kind of prevent service disruption

42:22 ↗ that's a good question uh the good news

42:24 ↗ is that the CIP development is right in

42:27 ↗ line with their uh award for their

42:31 ↗ contractor so they'll get going uh

42:35 ↗ probably at the end of 2024 beginning of

42:37 ↗ 2025 so we might have a little bit of

42:39 ↗ design work in 2024 but any construction

42:44 ↗ work we can plan for in our CIP

42:47 ↗ development this year as we've developed

42:49 ↗ the next CIP round okay so we should

42:52 ↗ definitely expect that conversation to

42:53 ↗ be a part of CIP development got it

42:55 ↗ absolutely

42:56 ↗ um next question is for wasdot so the

42:58 ↗ virtual was dot open houses are those

43:00 ↗ typically successful successfully

43:03 ↗ implemented in terms of attendance or do

43:05 ↗ you generally get a lot of people coming

43:06 ↗ to those

43:07 ↗ so we can do a couple different things

43:09 ↗ for our washed out open houses generally

43:11 ↗ our open houses they're they're hosted

43:13 ↗ on a platform called okay

43:14 ↗ engagewash.wa.gov

43:18 ↗ um and so we have and they're usually up

43:20 ↗ for a month or longer in place so it's

43:24 ↗ not just a one and you know they stay up

43:26 ↗ and then we um we encourage

43:28 ↗ participation to people to leave

43:29 ↗ comments to fill out surveys

43:32 ↗ um just to provide information and then

43:34 ↗ we send out various um to advertise them

43:37 ↗ we do news releases travel advisories we

43:40 ↗ put it in our email Weekly News News

43:42 ↗ email letters

43:44 ↗ to continue to get get that engagement

43:46 ↗ so it really kind of depends on the on

43:49 ↗ the project and what the online open

43:51 ↗ house is

43:52 ↗ Corridor studies sometimes you know but

43:56 ↗ a fish passage project like this I

43:58 ↗ expect it to get really good engagement

44:00 ↗ with with probably thousands of visits

44:05 ↗ councilmember Mertz followed by council

44:07 ↗ member

44:09 ↗ so earlier it was said things we can't

44:11 ↗ do dictate schedule do we have any

44:14 ↗ ability to influence the schedule

44:20 ↗ well I'm sorry I didn't hear it again do

44:22 ↗ we have any ability to influence the

44:24 ↗ schedule

44:26 ↗ um

44:27 ↗ we have looked at things like the we are

44:30 ↗ active member of the Kokanee Alliance

44:34 ↗ Group

44:34 ↗ and after their last presentation we

44:38 ↗ they asked if we could get it what they

44:39 ↗ wanted it done by 2025 but we with two

44:42 ↗ to three years we are going to be

44:44 ↗ forcing the con design Builder to go and

44:48 ↗ work on that as one of the first one so

44:49 ↗ and toward by the end of 2027 we're

44:52 ↗ looking at whether or not we can

44:54 ↗ actually get can can contractually force

44:57 ↗ them to get that that Creek up and going

44:59 ↗ by the end of 2027. we are looking into

45:04 ↗ situations like that

45:06 ↗ um but yeah there is some influence but

45:09 ↗ that's it like that I in the city as a

45:13 ↗ whole for the City of Issaquah as you

45:15 ↗ saw we had two to three years two to

45:16 ↗ three three years two to three years and

45:18 ↗ I have to be done between 24 the end of

45:21 ↗ 24 to 29. that's only five years and

45:23 ↗ there's nine years listed there so there

45:25 ↗ will be overlapping and we gotta ex we

45:28 ↗ will be you should be expecting that we

45:30 ↗ will be for the full five years in

45:32 ↗ working in the City of Issaquah

45:33 ↗ someplace on one of those three sites

45:36 ↗ yeah I I get that

45:38 ↗ um I just I have a particular concern so

45:41 ↗ many of these are

45:43 ↗ um primary uh arterials that don't have

45:47 ↗ easy alternate routes

45:50 ↗ um and to have so many of these

45:52 ↗ potentially occurring simultaneously

45:54 ↗ I've got a real concern around emergency

45:57 ↗ services and level of service for fire

46:01 ↗ and ipd and

46:04 ↗ are we going to be able to sequence this

46:07 ↗ such that we can make sure we can

46:08 ↗ maintain minimums for Public Safety when

46:11 ↗ these are occurring so that our police

46:13 ↗ and fire can get to the parts of the

46:14 ↗ city they have to in a timely fashion

46:17 ↗ we we are we do talk to these uh

46:20 ↗ Services even before the RFP

46:23 ↗ um

46:24 ↗ uh it was said in one of our slides

46:27 ↗ um and we do are one of the requirements

46:29 ↗ in our RFP is that anything that changes

46:31 ↗ or whatever happens the design Builder

46:34 ↗ has to communicate with these essential

46:36 ↗ services and have to tell them what's

46:38 ↗ going on and what's going on we are

46:40 ↗ going to be putting a lot of

46:42 ↗ requirements the closers as mentioned no

46:45 ↗ no two closures that are going to impact

46:47 ↗ each other are going to be allowed at

46:49 ↗ the same time

46:51 ↗ um we want to be good neighbors and so

46:53 ↗ we want to make sure that we are we

46:55 ↗ don't have people running into one

46:57 ↗ closer into another closer and get into

46:59 ↗ a little circle we want to make sure

47:01 ↗ that it's it's easy it looks good it

47:04 ↗ makes us look good it makes you guys

47:05 ↗ look good if we I mean we have to do the

47:07 ↗ work but we need to make sure that they

47:10 ↗ understand what's going on so we do we

47:12 ↗ have a very aggressive

47:14 ↗ um construction requirements on closures

47:18 ↗ and

47:19 ↗ and detours

47:21 ↗ oh

47:23 ↗ okay yeah uh we do have so the city does

47:26 ↗ have some ability to provide some

47:29 ↗ conditions in the RFP in terms of where

47:32 ↗ detour would be located and

47:35 ↗ we are discussing with wash dot closure

47:38 ↗ lengths

47:40 ↗ um and that'll be part of our next phase

47:42 ↗ of our discussions as we deliberate how

47:47 ↗ long along Newport Way say a bridge you

47:51 ↗ know we can't dictate that it can be

47:53 ↗ done in a week because that's impossible

47:55 ↗ we have the ability to say you know a

47:57 ↗ closure can't last indefinitely on a

48:00 ↗ period of roadway so we do have we have

48:02 ↗ some wiggle room or at least some

48:04 ↗ ability to discuss with wash

48:06 ↗ I guess what I'm hoping for is I'm

48:08 ↗ hoping the city has standards that are

48:11 ↗ going to be required to be met for

48:13 ↗ emergency services during these times

48:18 ↗ yes uh

48:21 ↗ in the in the amount that we can yes

48:22 ↗ there will be conditions put in into

48:25 ↗ place in the RFP that we can put in

48:29 ↗ there

48:29 ↗ but a closure we can't obviously

48:32 ↗ accommodate

48:34 ↗ emergency vehicles through but we'll

48:36 ↗ we'll be discussing that part but there

48:39 ↗ has to be a plan I don't want to know

48:40 ↗ that there's a discussion that's going

48:42 ↗ to occur I want to know that there's

48:44 ↗ standards they're going to be maintained

48:46 ↗ during this such that our citizens are

48:48 ↗ going to achieve minimum Public Safety

48:51 ↗ standards that's I don't want to hear

48:53 ↗ that there's going to be conversations I

48:55 ↗ want to know that our citizens are going

48:57 ↗ to be safe during these operations

48:59 ↗ let me jump in

49:02 ↗ um we'll work very carefully as I think

49:04 ↗ you've heard tonight this is going to be

49:05 ↗ a multi-year issue for us and we'll work

49:08 ↗ with these Sapphire and rescue and squat

49:10 ↗ police to make sure that those standards

49:12 ↗ and as we brief you we will bring the

49:14 ↗ Chiefs at some appropriate point to

49:16 ↗ share what those standards are thank you

49:17 ↗ that would help

49:22 ↗ okay

49:24 ↗ um councilmember Jill thank you

49:27 ↗ um I often look at your Twitter uh

49:31 ↗ uh when I'm traveling from Seattle or

49:34 ↗ Everett trying to get back home in the

49:36 ↗ evenings I see you have a past Twitter

49:38 ↗ you have a north and a South Twitter and

49:40 ↗ some other specific areas

49:43 ↗ are there plans to perhaps have a fish

49:47 ↗ passes Twitter or at least an East Side

49:49 ↗ traffic Twitter during this time of

49:52 ↗ intensive construction

49:55 ↗ it would help us I think as we're

49:58 ↗ traveling back and forth if we can look

50:00 ↗ and see that Northwest

50:02 ↗ uh you know Newport Way is going to be

50:05 ↗ closed that we know there are two other

50:06 ↗ fish passages we have to to get home in

50:09 ↗ our migration so if you can comment on

50:11 ↗ that I'd appreciate it

50:13 ↗ I will talk with our social media

50:15 ↗ manager about that the difficulty we

50:17 ↗ have is that we have hundreds and

50:19 ↗ hundreds of fish passages all around the

50:21 ↗ state so if we do fish passage you know

50:23 ↗ Twitter or something like that it could

50:25 ↗ be reference you'd have to wait

50:26 ↗ potentially Wade through a lot of them

50:28 ↗ um privately Olympic Peninsula has so

50:31 ↗ many

50:32 ↗ that we're actually calling it fishnado

50:39 ↗ right here as we speak but if you can

50:42 ↗ find something that's specific so that

50:44 ↗ we will know yeah you know the category

50:47 ↗ we're looking for I'd appreciate it yeah

50:48 ↗ I will pass that along to our social

50:49 ↗ media manager for the state and we're

50:51 ↗ also hiring one specifically for the

50:53 ↗ northwest region so that individual

50:55 ↗ might also have some some ideas on how

50:58 ↗ we can take our social media engagement

50:59 ↗ and Twitter Tick Tock all of that stuff

51:03 ↗ to get to push it to that next level of

51:05 ↗ Engagement and what we need to do for

51:07 ↗ the next three years thank you

51:12 ↗ okay so I'm tentatively going to say I'm

51:15 ↗ not seeing any other questions

51:17 ↗ so we have an opportunity for public

51:19 ↗ comment on this item

51:22 ↗ so anyone who is indicating a desire to

51:27 ↗ speak um if you are on the phone you can

51:29 ↗ press star three if you joined by a

51:31 ↗ computer or smartphone you can look for

51:33 ↗ your hand icon and indicate a desire to

51:37 ↗ speak on this topic

51:39 ↗ anybody in the room

51:41 ↗ okay fantastic

51:52 ↗ David if you would go ahead and press

51:54 ↗ the button

51:56 ↗ there we go uh David kapler 255

51:59 ↗ Southeast Andrew Street

52:01 ↗ um the amount of City Staffing that's

52:04 ↗ going to need to be increased to make

52:06 ↗ this whole thing work is a concern to me

52:10 ↗ um trying to bid on something that's

52:11 ↗ going to go into 2029 in areas where you

52:15 ↗ have no idea what's going to be there

52:17 ↗ just thinking last week you approved a

52:20 ↗ lot of cost overruns of mystery pipes

52:23 ↗ that have showed up in the city streets

52:25 ↗ and you know what we're going to be

52:27 ↗ seeing on this project out there

52:30 ↗ unanticipated things and then trying to

52:32 ↗ bid on something a company bidding on

52:35 ↗ work they're going to do in 2029

52:39 ↗ um how much what's the price of gravel

52:41 ↗ pipe

52:42 ↗ asphalt and so it's it's just gonna be a

52:45 ↗ huge amount of money and a huge amount

52:47 ↗ of potential risk for a company that

52:50 ↗ gets into this and for the jurisdictions

52:52 ↗ that are engaging in it and we are

52:55 ↗ certainly be engaging

52:58 ↗ um then there's the long-term

53:00 ↗ maintenance which would be good I mean

53:02 ↗ but park and Public Works people

53:06 ↗ um hopefully there's gonna be a lot of

53:07 ↗ new plantings and those kinds of things

53:08 ↗ there'll be some kind of requirement

53:11 ↗ that they those be managed over a

53:13 ↗ certain time but a lot of this is going

53:15 ↗ to be on city property so we will be

53:17 ↗ picking up some of those areas there's a

53:21 ↗ there's there's a whole bunch of stuff

53:24 ↗ here that um I was glad to hear some of

53:27 ↗ the some of the stuff going on east of

53:29 ↗ the city which is I think a lot more

53:31 ↗ simpler and I think I'll

53:35 ↗ benefit wise dollar benefit wise would

53:38 ↗ be uh because it's simpler and more

53:40 ↗ efficient and not Bridges and so much

53:43 ↗ and all that those things could be

53:46 ↗ certainly a beneficial

53:48 ↗ so you got your work cut out they have

53:50 ↗ their work cut out and good luck thank

53:52 ↗ you

53:53 ↗ thanks David

53:55 ↗ um do we have anybody indicating desire

53:59 ↗ to speak online

54:00 ↗ no okay so at this point I know we've

54:04 ↗ asked questions anybody have any

54:06 ↗ comments they'd like to share council

54:08 ↗ member D Michelle

54:10 ↗ foreign

54:11 ↗ thanks um

54:14 ↗ I think it's important first of all to

54:16 ↗ say that these are wonderful projects I

54:20 ↗ um when I was working at Key County

54:23 ↗ I had

54:25 ↗ I worked on several covert replacement

54:28 ↗ projects and it is wonderful to see the

54:31 ↗ replacement Culvert and see the water

54:33 ↗ coming through and the fish coming up

54:35 ↗ and so I just want us to have that in

54:38 ↗ our mind because the rest of it's not so

54:41 ↗ much fun

54:42 ↗ but really when this is done this is

54:44 ↗ going to be fabulous and a tremendous uh

54:48 ↗ Improvement to what's there currently

54:51 ↗ um my I have two areas of concern and

54:54 ↗ one you've already heard and that's a

54:55 ↗ transportation piece and uh the focus on

54:59 ↗ um trying to uh Chinese behaviors Chris

55:02 ↗ said and that's not an easy thing to do

55:05 ↗ we'll hope that the frustration level

55:08 ↗ doesn't get to such a point that people

55:10 ↗ change behaviors in in adverse ways

55:14 ↗ so I would like to see us in terms of

55:17 ↗ the community outreach to be

55:19 ↗ um and I really appreciate the the

55:21 ↗ larger plan that you're talking about

55:23 ↗ but

55:25 ↗ um here locally I would really like us

55:27 ↗ to Target our business community and see

55:29 ↗ if we can't emphasize the ride share and

55:33 ↗ the van share

55:35 ↗ possibilities because uh Chris is

55:38 ↗ absolutely right I was at Eastside

55:40 ↗ Transportation partnership last week and

55:43 ↗ Metro is still struggling to find

55:45 ↗ drivers and they are still struggling

55:47 ↗ with the financial impacts of the

55:49 ↗ pandemic and so that may not be the

55:53 ↗ option we would like it to be especially

55:55 ↗ in the Far East King County areas but

55:59 ↗ our major employers could adopt much

56:02 ↗ more aggressive approaches to vanpools

56:04 ↗ and ride shares and those those kinds of

56:07 ↗ of things and cut down on the traffic as

56:10 ↗ much as possible because it's going to

56:12 ↗ be kind of torturous to get and also you

56:16 ↗ may not be aware but the majority of

56:18 ↗ people come into issaquada work and go

56:21 ↗ out so that commuting piece is really

56:23 ↗ important to our community

56:25 ↗ my other big concern is the adverse

56:28 ↗ impact on our business and tourists

56:30 ↗ um uh parts of our community

56:33 ↗ and again I think a very targeted

56:36 ↗ approach to that part of the of

56:38 ↗ community outreach if we could talk and

56:40 ↗ work with our business Community find

56:42 ↗ out what they need again as I said

56:44 ↗ earlier construction time is tourist

56:48 ↗ time and that summer time is really

56:50 ↗ important to our restaurants

56:52 ↗ they will not want to see uh really big

56:56 ↗ impact to their business and traffic to

56:59 ↗ their to their businesses during that

57:00 ↗ time so whatever we can do to mitigate

57:03 ↗ the impacts of these major construction

57:05 ↗ projects on their businesses I think we

57:10 ↗ should do the best that we can to make

57:12 ↗ sure that our business Community stays

57:14 ↗ robust and and viable during the big

57:17 ↗ construction periods during the summer

57:19 ↗ so those are my two concerns

57:23 ↗ amazingly huge project as David said

57:27 ↗ you've got your work cut out for you and

57:29 ↗ I'm really glad that you came to see us

57:31 ↗ this far before the project actually

57:33 ↗ begins I appreciate that and hope that

57:36 ↗ we'll continue to have this dialogue so

57:39 ↗ thank you very much

57:41 ↗ councilmember hunt

57:43 ↗ God

57:45 ↗ thanks similar to councilmember D

57:47 ↗ Michelle I wanted to make sure that the

57:50 ↗ messaging there's a lot of important

57:52 ↗ messaging about where there's going to

57:54 ↗ be closures and how to get around and I

57:56 ↗ think that would be great to be really

57:58 ↗ specific for Issaquah so people don't

57:59 ↗ have to comb through lots of other

58:01 ↗ tweets to get that info but I also

58:03 ↗ wanted to make sure that we aren't

58:04 ↗ losing the main point of why we're doing

58:07 ↗ this because we in Issaquah are a

58:09 ↗ community that really does value salmon

58:10 ↗ we have salmon days we have the fish

58:13 ↗ hatchery and so working with our

58:15 ↗ Community Partners that could help with

58:17 ↗ the messaging around why we're doing

58:19 ↗ this to improve habitat access that this

58:21 ↗ is important for jobs and that this is

58:24 ↗ important for our stewardship of our

58:27 ↗ very important salmon also important for

58:30 ↗ orcas just all of that messaging around

58:32 ↗ why we're doing it I think could take

58:34 ↗ the edge off a little bit of the

58:36 ↗ frustration for this community that that

58:38 ↗ does

58:39 ↗ love salmon so

58:41 ↗ um I just wanted to say that and

58:42 ↗ appreciate the conversation about the

58:44 ↗ other impacts on public safety and

58:46 ↗ transportation which I'm sure we'll have

58:48 ↗ to continue working through

58:51 ↗ um but that would be my that would be my

58:53 ↗ comments is to reach out with our

58:54 ↗ partners around friends of Issaquah

58:57 ↗ salmon hatchery friends of like

58:58 ↗ Sammamish potentially salmon Recovery

59:02 ↗ Council of our Watershed which is right

59:04 ↗ wire eight sounds like you working with

59:06 ↗ the Kokanee group all of those groups

59:09 ↗ yeah if I could just just comment we do

59:11 ↗ have a robust fish passage program and

59:13 ↗ have developed a lot of relationships

59:14 ↗ with those with those various groups and

59:17 ↗ we already have some great examples that

59:20 ↗ we can show people saying this is what

59:22 ↗ you get this is what happens when we do

59:24 ↗ it we have a video of literally

59:26 ↗ sometimes Within

59:28 ↗ a day of opening up a fish passage you

59:31 ↗ start seeing fish coming through and

59:33 ↗ within a year it's to the point where

59:34 ↗ it's like you could almost walk across

59:36 ↗ the top of them there's so many of them

59:38 ↗ in there it's really remarkable to see

59:40 ↗ so those are those great you know proof

59:43 ↗ of performance if you will that says

59:44 ↗ this is why we're doing this and this

59:47 ↗ these are the benefits

59:49 ↗ yes we'll definitely use that and keep

59:51 ↗ that in mind okay absolutely and I think

59:53 ↗ on our side for a future conversation

59:54 ↗ also be great to talk about the habitat

59:57 ↗ improvements habitat access and how does

59:59 ↗ this impact our plants in those area

1:00:01 ↗ plantings and other because this is all

1:00:03 ↗ about habitat access and so the city you

1:00:05 ↗ know potentially may have to adjust our

1:00:07 ↗ plans for Habitat improvements I think

1:00:09 ↗ that's a different conversation but

1:00:11 ↗ thank you

1:00:12 ↗ councilmember Mertz

1:00:14 ↗ thank you I'm very much in favor of this

1:00:17 ↗ work being done I'm excited that it's

1:00:19 ↗ that it's going to be done

1:00:21 ↗ um you know it's important that all of

1:00:23 ↗ our selmonic streams the fish have a

1:00:27 ↗ chance to use them I continue to be

1:00:30 ↗ concerned around sequencing you know in

1:00:33 ↗ engineering the old truism is scheduled

1:00:35 ↗ budget performance pick two of the three

1:00:37 ↗ and I know budget's constrained and when

1:00:41 ↗ I hear you know getting done by 2029

1:00:44 ↗ what I'm worried about is that we're

1:00:46 ↗ going to hold schedule and budget and

1:00:49 ↗ what will be hit will be performance in

1:00:52 ↗ terms of the impact in the community

1:00:55 ↗ if I could wave a magic wand I would

1:00:57 ↗ hold a performance standard in place and

1:01:00 ↗ then build a schedule around maintaining

1:01:02 ↗ that performance standard so as we move

1:01:04 ↗ forward I'm going to be really looking

1:01:07 ↗ to see that we're confident that we're

1:01:10 ↗ not going to impact Public Safety it's

1:01:12 ↗ going to impact traffic

1:01:14 ↗ I hope we understand that I hope we come

1:01:17 ↗ up with systems in place but you know

1:01:19 ↗ that will happen but it can't impact

1:01:22 ↗ Public Safety it just can't so that's

1:01:25 ↗ the part that I'm going to be having an

1:01:27 ↗ eye on as we move forward here so I'm

1:01:30 ↗ hoping that we have some baseline

1:01:32 ↗ standards that we're going to use to

1:01:33 ↗ evaluate the sequencing such that we can

1:01:36 ↗ be confident that it won't have an

1:01:37 ↗ impact on Public Safety thank you

1:01:41 ↗ our transportation of Secretary of

1:01:44 ↗ Transportation he we just had a meeting

1:01:47 ↗ not too long ago and the number was

1:01:49 ↗ safety so no safety is the number one on

1:01:53 ↗ our our goal safety traveling Public

1:01:56 ↗ Safety of the contractor safety of our

1:01:58 ↗ employees it's all number one in our and

1:02:01 ↗ for the neighborhoods around there so

1:02:03 ↗ safety is always number one time

1:02:06 ↗ schedule unfortunately on this one is

1:02:09 ↗ this project is we have to have our fish

1:02:12 ↗ passage done by March of 2030. that's

1:02:15 ↗ the injunction

1:02:17 ↗ um so that's why we we are pushing as

1:02:19 ↗ long as we can on this with the end of

1:02:21 ↗ 2029. so schedule is is a criteria on

1:02:25 ↗ this one budget not as much as like you

1:02:28 ↗ said the three budget is the less of the

1:02:30 ↗ criteria than what schedule and safety

1:02:36 ↗ so thank you

1:02:40 ↗ well

1:02:41 ↗ Deputy council president Hall thank you

1:02:44 ↗ I guess the other part of this was to

1:02:45 ↗ what kind of council touches are are

1:02:48 ↗ important it seems like what was

1:02:49 ↗ described in the memo

1:02:51 ↗ um is a

1:02:53 ↗ emphasis on presentations and

1:02:55 ↗ discussions at the mobility and

1:02:56 ↗ infrastructure committee so I just

1:02:57 ↗ wanted to make sure to stay on camera

1:02:59 ↗ it'll be important for our chair council

1:03:01 ↗ member Ray to be summarizing what we're

1:03:03 ↗ talking about at these meetings during

1:03:05 ↗ our regional and committee reports so

1:03:07 ↗ the council's up to date so um

1:03:09 ↗ councilmember D Michelle and I will make

1:03:10 ↗ sure to bug him about that

1:03:15 ↗ also ditto everything that was said I'm

1:03:18 ↗ in complete agreement and also thank you

1:03:19 ↗ very much for doing all this important

1:03:21 ↗ work and also making the trip out to

1:03:23 ↗ issquad during this storm

1:03:26 ↗ well I will Echo a lot of what you've

1:03:29 ↗ heard a great conversation we obviously

1:03:31 ↗ care very much about our community and

1:03:33 ↗ the impacts and all of that so it's

1:03:35 ↗ really nice to hear the planning that's

1:03:37 ↗ going into it and nice to hear from the

1:03:39 ↗ city staff that we're thinking about our

1:03:40 ↗ CIP projects and all of that

1:03:43 ↗ um I will Echo a little bit we are a

1:03:45 ↗ very fishy town and the more that you

1:03:48 ↗ can use that in humor and appreciation

1:03:52 ↗ and just very much the spirit of us I

1:03:55 ↗ think the more

1:03:57 ↗ Goodwill you may earn in that

1:04:00 ↗ communication so I will just add that

1:04:02 ↗ out there but

1:04:04 ↗ um

1:04:04 ↗ we look forward to hearing more at each

1:04:07 ↗ of those touch points and if there's

1:04:10 ↗ nothing else I'll just ask do you guys

1:04:12 ↗ have what you need as far as feedback

1:04:14 ↗ from us

1:04:15 ↗ seeing yes okay well thank you for

1:04:20 ↗ coming out here

1:04:21 ↗ talking to us and everything we

1:04:23 ↗ appreciate it

1:04:25 ↗ for having us thank you okay great

1:04:29 ↗ so looking back at my agenda at this

1:04:34 ↗ point we've got one more item on our

1:04:36 ↗ agenda that is

1:04:38 ↗ id1398 the capital Improvement plan

1:04:40 ↗ goals outcomes and project selection

1:04:43 ↗ criteria presented by Andrea Snyder the

1:04:46 ↗ deputy City administrator

1:04:48 ↗ Andrea I see you getting set up over

1:04:50 ↗ there

1:04:52 ↗ I am thank you very much council

1:04:55 ↗ president Walsh just

1:04:57 ↗ one second here

1:05:00 ↗ um so I'm the deputy City administrator

1:05:03 ↗ Andrea Snyder also with me here tonight

1:05:05 ↗ is our Chief Financial Officer to help

1:05:07 ↗ present on this item and answer any

1:05:09 ↗ questions that you have Robert hamoud

1:05:11 ↗ uh so we will be calling him up a little

1:05:14 ↗ bit later

1:05:16 ↗ um

1:05:17 ↗ so I have a very minimal presentation

1:05:20 ↗ for you tonight because largely tonight

1:05:21 ↗ is about following up with you on the

1:05:24 ↗ discussions from the council Retreat on

1:05:26 ↗ January 28th of this year so at that

1:05:29 ↗ Retreat we discussed really two things

1:05:32 ↗ pertinent to our next CIP or Capital

1:05:35 ↗ Improvement Capital Improvement plan

1:05:38 ↗ uh the first is the goals and outcomes

1:05:40 ↗ chart Council had stated that you wanted

1:05:42 ↗ to establish some goals and outcomes for

1:05:45 ↗ this CIP update that we're undertaking

1:05:48 ↗ this year so at that Retreat you had

1:05:51 ↗ brainstormed some goals and some

1:05:52 ↗ outcomes that you would like to see

1:05:54 ↗ through the CIP update process we've

1:05:56 ↗ taken those

1:05:58 ↗ um that brainstorm of yours we've

1:06:00 ↗ Consolidated it into kind of five main

1:06:03 ↗ goals this the goal and outcomes table

1:06:07 ↗ is in your packet I also have it shared

1:06:09 ↗ up here on the screen and

1:06:12 ↗ also you had asked for some umbrella

1:06:15 ↗ goals very similar to the title 18 land

1:06:17 ↗ use code update process so we took that

1:06:20 ↗ feedback and Consolidated it all in this

1:06:22 ↗ chart as you see here so there's five

1:06:24 ↗ goals that we have

1:06:28 ↗ um that we have here projects have a

1:06:30 ↗ clear path to inclusion in the CIP the

1:06:33 ↗ CIP process and priorities are

1:06:35 ↗ communicated clearly with city council

1:06:37 ↗ and the community

1:06:38 ↗ projects have accountable path toward

1:06:41 ↗ execution and or completion

1:06:43 ↗ Equity is inherent in Project selection

1:06:46 ↗ and delivery

1:06:48 ↗ and that we've clearly defined our

1:06:51 ↗ funding strategies

1:06:53 ↗ so with those five goals and you also

1:06:55 ↗ provided some input into the background

1:06:57 ↗ I'm sorry into the desired outcomes

1:07:01 ↗ the Administration has filled in some of

1:07:03 ↗ these other columns with issues

1:07:05 ↗ objectives and possible actions based

1:07:07 ↗ off of the discussions that were had at

1:07:09 ↗ The Retreat and also just how we think

1:07:11 ↗ we can put some of those goals into

1:07:13 ↗ action and Achieve those outcomes so the

1:07:16 ↗ first questions for you tonight is does

1:07:20 ↗ this reflect the general question the

1:07:23 ↗ general discussion at The Retreat and do

1:07:26 ↗ you have any suggested changes for the

1:07:29 ↗ goals and outcomes chart

1:07:30 ↗ so that's the first question that we'll

1:07:32 ↗ be asking before we get into that uh

1:07:35 ↗ also wanted to follow up on

1:07:39 ↗ the

1:07:41 ↗ um

1:07:43 ↗ the

1:07:45 ↗ I'm sorry here hold on a second I also

1:07:48 ↗ wanted to follow up on the criteria

1:07:52 ↗ so

1:07:53 ↗ I only have a small issue because the

1:07:56 ↗ thing that allows me to share my screen

1:07:58 ↗ is covering up my next tab there we go

1:08:00 ↗ uh so here are the criteria we discussed

1:08:04 ↗ at the council Retreat we heard feedback

1:08:07 ↗ from you about criteria these are the

1:08:09 ↗ criteria that we use to select projects

1:08:11 ↗ in the CIP we wanted to update these

1:08:15 ↗ criteria for this next CIP draft and we

1:08:19 ↗ received some feedback to you about

1:08:21 ↗ these criteria that we would use to

1:08:22 ↗ select projects one of the things that

1:08:25 ↗ we heard from you is a desire to ensure

1:08:27 ↗ consistency with prior Council

1:08:29 ↗ commitments and we've reflected that

1:08:33 ↗ here and long-standing commitment we've

1:08:36 ↗ added that as a criteria to this list

1:08:38 ↗ for consideration we're really focusing

1:08:42 ↗ on the the bolded statements here

1:08:45 ↗ um not necessarily the green yellow and

1:08:48 ↗ red we had discussed those a little bit

1:08:49 ↗ in the during the retreat of how we

1:08:51 ↗ would grade or rank

1:08:54 ↗ projects according to these criteria but

1:08:57 ↗ really looking at making sure that we

1:08:59 ↗ address the main criteria so we heard

1:09:02 ↗ from you that you wanted to have a

1:09:05 ↗ criteria to address the long-standing

1:09:07 ↗ council commitment so we have added that

1:09:09 ↗ we also heard from you a desire to

1:09:11 ↗ incorporate uh some of the Bellevue CIP

1:09:15 ↗ criteria on

1:09:18 ↗ financial and economic impacts and so we

1:09:20 ↗ have included some of that phrasing and

1:09:23 ↗ City resource management and economic

1:09:26 ↗ impact but we've also addressed some of

1:09:28 ↗ those Concept in this replacement or

1:09:30 ↗ Capital maintenance of existing

1:09:32 ↗ infrastructure and talking about

1:09:34 ↗ avoiding future costs Etc that was

1:09:37 ↗ similar to what we found in the Bellevue

1:09:40 ↗ CIP criteria

1:09:42 ↗ and then uh finally we have

1:09:46 ↗ um we understood that there were

1:09:47 ↗ discussions among counsel and feedback

1:09:49 ↗ about identified funding and concerns

1:09:52 ↗ that uh if there was no funding for a

1:09:54 ↗ project it wouldn't be included in the

1:09:56 ↗ in the CIP because of the criteria

1:09:59 ↗ uh there we go to have identified

1:10:02 ↗ funding for a project so we tried to

1:10:05 ↗ address that in the city resource

1:10:06 ↗ management and economic impact criteria

1:10:09 ↗ we've kind of walked back some of that

1:10:10 ↗ language and modified some of that

1:10:11 ↗ language from the version you saw on the

1:10:13 ↗ 28th but at this point identified

1:10:16 ↗ funding is still in the criteria because

1:10:19 ↗ we have uh that has been an important

1:10:23 ↗ part of our process to date so we look

1:10:25 ↗ forward to discussions from you

1:10:27 ↗ um

1:10:28 ↗ on criteria and whether this reflects

1:10:30 ↗ the discussions that you had on the 28th

1:10:33 ↗ if there's changes that you'd like to

1:10:34 ↗ make to these criteria

1:10:37 ↗ next steps for goals and outcomes and

1:10:40 ↗ the criteria following this feedback we

1:10:42 ↗ actually have a summit of four of the

1:10:45 ↗ city advisory boards this Thursday to

1:10:47 ↗ further refine the criteria so we're

1:10:49 ↗ getting together the environmental board

1:10:51 ↗ the equity board the transportation

1:10:54 ↗ Advisory board and the park board to

1:10:57 ↗ take another look at the criteria

1:10:58 ↗ further refine them

1:11:00 ↗ and we will be using these criteria to

1:11:03 ↗ evaluate projects to get into the draft

1:11:05 ↗ CIP and then we'll be coming back to

1:11:07 ↗ Council in

1:11:10 ↗ the council committees in May to look at

1:11:13 ↗ the draft CIP see how those criteria are

1:11:15 ↗ working for the draft CIP and for

1:11:17 ↗ further Council discussion on the

1:11:18 ↗ proposed projects within the CIP and we

1:11:21 ↗ are hopeful to have adoption of the CIP

1:11:24 ↗ in June so those are some of the next

1:11:26 ↗ Council touches are there any questions

1:11:28 ↗ before we get to those discussion

1:11:30 ↗ questions

1:11:33 ↗ councilmember Joe

1:11:35 ↗ thank you

1:11:37 ↗ thank you for this presentation it was

1:11:39 ↗ it was great I think you captured most

1:11:41 ↗ of the items that we had discussed

1:11:44 ↗ during our retreat

1:11:47 ↗ I had a question about the replacement

1:11:49 ↗ of capital maintenance of existing

1:11:51 ↗ infrastructure

1:11:52 ↗ item on there and

1:11:56 ↗ oftentimes I've noticed that sometimes

1:11:59 ↗ we'll we'll

1:12:00 ↗ defer maintenance or will defer a

1:12:03 ↗ project and think that we're saving

1:12:04 ↗ money because we're not spending it in

1:12:06 ↗ year one but in essence we're by not

1:12:10 ↗ spending it to do the maintenance or to

1:12:12 ↗ do the upkeep we end up spending more in

1:12:15 ↗ your two or three because it fails or

1:12:19 ↗ because we have an emergency because it

1:12:20 ↗ fails is is that the type of of thought

1:12:24 ↗ and reasoning that was going into that

1:12:26 ↗ and if you could spend expand on that a

1:12:28 ↗ little bit more I'd appreciate it yes

1:12:30 ↗ exactly uh so there's a couple of ways

1:12:33 ↗ that we can look at this and we think

1:12:34 ↗ about maintenance

1:12:36 ↗ um you know as it says here does the

1:12:38 ↗ project remedy a substandard asset

1:12:40 ↗ condition does it extend or reset the

1:12:42 ↗ assets useful life does it protect or

1:12:44 ↗ enhance the level of service to the

1:12:46 ↗ community or does it help avoid a future

1:12:48 ↗ cost and that helping avoid a future

1:12:50 ↗ cost portion really gets to the point

1:12:52 ↗ that you are making council member Joe

1:12:53 ↗ of is it going to be more expensive to

1:12:56 ↗ maintain or replace this asset in the

1:12:58 ↗ future can we help avoid those costs by

1:13:00 ↗ addressing the issues now or extending

1:13:02 ↗ its useful life now so that's exactly

1:13:04 ↗ what that's trying to get to

1:13:05 ↗ thank you I appreciate that I think that

1:13:08 ↗ uh oftentimes cities or organizations

1:13:11 ↗ don't put enough thought into the

1:13:13 ↗ necessity of spending on maintenance and

1:13:15 ↗ I hope the city is giving some good

1:13:18 ↗ thought to that I think we're looking at

1:13:20 ↗ the the paper project or the cement

1:13:22 ↗ replacement project is one of those

1:13:23 ↗ items that we're dedicating to

1:13:25 ↗ maintenance along the way and I hope we

1:13:27 ↗ continue to think along that vein to

1:13:29 ↗ think more long term with our two-year

1:13:31 ↗ biennial budget thank you

1:13:35 ↗ question did councilmember Hall thank

1:13:38 ↗ you very much for doing all this work in

1:13:39 ↗ such a short amount of time so the

1:13:42 ↗ administration's looking for feedback on

1:13:43 ↗ just kind of the overall in terms for

1:13:45 ↗ the criteria

1:13:47 ↗ um of the particular bolded criteria

1:13:50 ↗ categories essentially it might not

1:13:52 ↗ necessarily be appropriate to

1:13:55 ↗ comment on the rest of it now until the

1:13:57 ↗ boards have had their Summit is that is

1:13:59 ↗ that the thinking yeah we're trying to

1:14:01 ↗ keep the discussion at the level of the

1:14:03 ↗ bolded criteria or the language defining

1:14:06 ↗ the bolded criteria so if you have

1:14:08 ↗ feedback on that that would be great

1:14:11 ↗ councilmember hunt I got a question on

1:14:14 ↗ the long-standing commitment it's

1:14:17 ↗ set at a threshold for 2018 and then

1:14:20 ↗ 2018 to 2022 is there a with this you

1:14:25 ↗ know this would be revised

1:14:27 ↗ um year after year so you would it would

1:14:29 ↗ is the idea that would keep moving up

1:14:30 ↗ and then the other question is we have

1:14:32 ↗ uh this huge list of items at the end of

1:14:35 ↗ our CIP the future projects list which I

1:14:38 ↗ think go back before 2018 and they're I

1:14:42 ↗ I am under the impression that a lot of

1:14:44 ↗ projects have been on the list since

1:14:46 ↗ before 2018 and so I'm wondering why

1:14:49 ↗ 2018 and if there are other

1:14:52 ↗ where if there were other considerations

1:14:54 ↗ if there were other ways that you

1:14:56 ↗ thought about doing this that might be

1:14:59 ↗ more specific more you know narrow it

1:15:01 ↗ down a little bit

1:15:03 ↗ sure thank you for that question because

1:15:04 ↗ we have talked about this item quite a

1:15:06 ↗ bit and I'm wondering if Robert can

1:15:08 ↗ speak to this more detailed than I can

1:15:11 ↗ everybody hear me okay

1:15:13 ↗ thank you councilmember hunt part of

1:15:16 ↗ this is taking a well for lack of a

1:15:19 ↗ better term a normal year I mean if we

1:15:21 ↗ went back two years obviously we'd be in

1:15:22 ↗ the height still of covid so going back

1:15:24 ↗ to 2018 and identifying projects that

1:15:27 ↗ the city has never addressed and kind of

1:15:29 ↗ back to council member Joe's Point some

1:15:32 ↗ of that does fall under the Deferred

1:15:33 ↗ maintenance category if you look at

1:15:35 ↗ categories such as the concrete program

1:15:37 ↗ even pavement Management Programs so

1:15:39 ↗ those are the items that we want to make

1:15:41 ↗ sure as far as a maintenance perspective

1:15:43 ↗ the more you wait the costlier it gets

1:15:45 ↗ to replace so that was part of the

1:15:47 ↗ reason of bringing those projects back

1:15:49 ↗ up as far as the older projects but then

1:15:51 ↗ also some of the unfunded projects that

1:15:52 ↗ are still a priority of the city that we

1:15:55 ↗ have still not identified the funding

1:15:56 ↗ for

1:15:59 ↗ okay thank you I think it would be good

1:16:02 ↗ to look at that future years list

1:16:04 ↗ because I think those were also you know

1:16:06 ↗ they were intended for that far out and

1:16:07 ↗ so they've been on the list for a long

1:16:09 ↗ time but

1:16:10 ↗ that's not

1:16:11 ↗ my intention with the long-standing

1:16:14 ↗ commitments the long-standing

1:16:15 ↗ commitments is more the the things that

1:16:17 ↗ have been

1:16:18 ↗ um surfaced multiple years by the

1:16:22 ↗ community or by the council so I think

1:16:24 ↗ just differentiating there's probably

1:16:26 ↗ going to need to be some differentiation

1:16:28 ↗ there or a very large percentage of our

1:16:31 ↗ CIP would fall into this category and

1:16:34 ↗ that's sort of by Design

1:16:41 ↗ yes City administrator uh as Deputy City

1:16:44 ↗ Minister indicator we've talked a little

1:16:45 ↗ bit about this and so really we want to

1:16:47 ↗ know what you want

1:16:49 ↗ um 18 I think we looked at the pandemic

1:16:52 ↗ it's it's really kind of less than that

1:16:55 ↗ I think you can pick whatever date you

1:16:57 ↗ like we also want to be able to have a

1:17:00 ↗ sense of where the project stood I mean

1:17:01 ↗ if there's a list of projects that was

1:17:04 ↗ never discussed but there's a title

1:17:06 ↗ that's lasted for a long period of time

1:17:08 ↗ that's something different than a

1:17:10 ↗ project that was you know in year six

1:17:13 ↗ and then in year six and in year six of

1:17:15 ↗ multiple plans so whatever the council

1:17:17 ↗ feels comfortable with I think as

1:17:19 ↗ councilmember March had said at the at

1:17:22 ↗ the The Retreat it's just a recognition

1:17:24 ↗ that this has been on the community's

1:17:25 ↗ radar for a while I don't think there's

1:17:27 ↗ any real magic from the administration's

1:17:29 ↗ perspective as to how you slice it so if

1:17:31 ↗ something prior to 2018 makes sense we

1:17:33 ↗ can go back I don't think we've actually

1:17:35 ↗ done any counting at this point yet to

1:17:37 ↗ see what which projects would actually

1:17:40 ↗ fall on this guide category but we want

1:17:41 ↗ to give you what you want

1:17:42 ↗ with us

1:17:46 ↗ okay I'm not seeing any other questions

1:17:49 ↗ so I'll open up an opportunity for

1:17:53 ↗ public comment before we go into any

1:17:56 ↗ commentary of our own so I'm wondering

1:17:59 ↗ if there is anyone not in person we've

1:18:03 ↗ got a head shake there anyone online

1:18:06 ↗ with a desire to speak

1:18:09 ↗ we still have one member of the public

1:18:11 ↗ with us online

1:18:13 ↗ but I'm not seeing a raised hand

1:18:16 ↗ okay so at this point

1:18:20 ↗ um I'm thinking maybe we take the goals

1:18:23 ↗ and outcomes chart first and then talk

1:18:26 ↗ about criteria or vice versa

1:18:29 ↗ um but I'll just go ahead and propose

1:18:31 ↗ goals and outcomes first so do we have

1:18:33 ↗ any comments questions concerns

1:18:38 ↗ detailed thoughts

1:18:40 ↗ thumbs up

1:18:43 ↗ okay I've got two thumbs up

1:18:45 ↗ councilmember hunt

1:18:48 ↗ thank you

1:18:49 ↗ um I I generally

1:18:52 ↗ I agree I think it's a good start a

1:18:56 ↗ quick question on process do you

1:18:59 ↗ um are you going to get input from the

1:19:01 ↗ commissions on this as well as the

1:19:03 ↗ criteria or just the criteria just the

1:19:06 ↗ criteria okay

1:19:07 ↗ um so my thought on this then is that I

1:19:11 ↗ there is some overlap so for example

1:19:14 ↗ Equity is inherent in Project selection

1:19:16 ↗ and delivery and then we also have

1:19:17 ↗ Equity

1:19:19 ↗ criteria and it seems to me that it

1:19:23 ↗ would be great to have a step after you

1:19:25 ↗ do the work refining the criteria with

1:19:27 ↗ the commissions to make sure that this

1:19:30 ↗ goals and outcomes chart is aligned with

1:19:32 ↗ that so the goals the goal here about

1:19:35 ↗ Equity is inherent in Project selection

1:19:37 ↗ and delivery has possible actions that

1:19:39 ↗ are not in my mind all that related to

1:19:42 ↗ the criteria and so if if the equity

1:19:45 ↗ board comes back with feedback about

1:19:47 ↗ um

1:19:48 ↗ about that and then for example there's

1:19:50 ↗ language access that's discussed in the

1:19:53 ↗ golden outcomes chart that wasn't

1:19:54 ↗ discussed in the criteria document so I

1:19:56 ↗ think just aligning on those

1:19:58 ↗ um would be good and

1:20:00 ↗ and

1:20:01 ↗ similar similarly I think it'd be great

1:20:04 ↗ to make sure that we have a clear

1:20:07 ↗ that is clear from this goals and

1:20:09 ↗ outcomes chart that we have these

1:20:11 ↗ criteria because unlike the

1:20:15 ↗ um Title 18 process in with Title 18 the

1:20:18 ↗ goals and outcomes really was how we

1:20:20 ↗ were evaluating it

1:20:21 ↗ for this this process we have both

1:20:25 ↗ criteria for individual projects and

1:20:27 ↗ then we have an overall document so I

1:20:29 ↗ just want to make sure that they they

1:20:31 ↗ are working together and that there's

1:20:33 ↗ not that they reference each other and

1:20:35 ↗ that it's clear how we as a council will

1:20:37 ↗ ultimately evaluate projects using both

1:20:41 ↗ documents

1:20:43 ↗ um

1:20:44 ↗ and

1:20:47 ↗ um

1:20:47 ↗ my last comment is there one of the last

1:20:51 ↗ umbrella goals is make the CIP document

1:20:52 ↗ and capital planning easier to

1:20:54 ↗ understand for use by the public city

1:20:56 ↗ council and staff I think it's probably

1:20:59 ↗ just the process needs to be easier to

1:21:02 ↗ to understand it and have meaningful

1:21:05 ↗ engagement but the

1:21:08 ↗ Community unlike the title 18 I think

1:21:11 ↗ that's sort of a holdover from the title

1:21:13 ↗ 18 goals and outcomes where people will

1:21:16 ↗ actually use the code here the community

1:21:18 ↗ isn't is going to be impacted by the

1:21:21 ↗ projects that come out of the code but I

1:21:22 ↗ think that wording needs to be changed a

1:21:24 ↗ little bit because they're not as likely

1:21:25 ↗ to

1:21:26 ↗ you know use the document in the same

1:21:28 ↗ way they would use the code for early

1:21:30 ↗ and use code that's my comments thanks

1:21:35 ↗ not seeing any other comment so I'll

1:21:40 ↗ just go ahead with some of mine

1:21:44 ↗ um

1:21:45 ↗ I don't see anything related to outside

1:21:47 ↗ plans I know we had discussed effer and

1:21:51 ↗ state parks and kind of other outside

1:21:54 ↗ entities that might have plans that

1:21:57 ↗ would coincide with or relate to some of

1:22:00 ↗ our city projects so I'd like to make

1:22:01 ↗ sure that gets referenced somewhere in

1:22:05 ↗ there

1:22:07 ↗ um

1:22:08 ↗ goal let's see

1:22:12 ↗ issue 2A so under the specific goal the

1:22:16 ↗ CIP process and priorities are

1:22:18 ↗ communicated clearly with city council

1:22:20 ↗ and the community the issue 2A it's

1:22:22 ↗ unclear how projects from other planning

1:22:24 ↗ documents are incorporated into the CIP

1:22:26 ↗ doesn't seem to me that that makes sense

1:22:30 ↗ in that goal it seems like it makes

1:22:33 ↗ sense more in number one

1:22:35 ↗ just from my perspective that's all

1:22:38 ↗ about

1:22:39 ↗ how do you get a project in and what's

1:22:43 ↗ the path to inclusion

1:22:45 ↗ and then

1:22:48 ↗ missing under so there was a an issue we

1:22:52 ↗ had kind of talked about about funding

1:22:56 ↗ that I'm not

1:22:58 ↗ sure is getting hit here the goal number

1:23:02 ↗ five seems to really focus on

1:23:06 ↗ um having a funding strategy and I think

1:23:09 ↗ one of our

1:23:11 ↗ big problems was

1:23:14 ↗ hey if something didn't have funding

1:23:17 ↗ it was kind of eliminated and so being

1:23:22 ↗ able to talk through that as either an

1:23:25 ↗ issue or an objective that basically

1:23:27 ↗ funding no longer excludes a project

1:23:31 ↗ from consideration and is one of the

1:23:34 ↗ criteria not the only one was one of the

1:23:38 ↗ big issues I was identifying with the

1:23:41 ↗ CIP and I just want to make sure that

1:23:42 ↗ that is referenced in there

1:23:47 ↗ and so those were my comments on the

1:23:50 ↗ goals and outcomes I will give everybody

1:23:52 ↗ another look looks like we're good

1:23:55 ↗ criteria

1:23:57 ↗ so if you'll go ahead and bring the

1:24:00 ↗ criteria document up and so you're just

1:24:03 ↗ looking for

1:24:04 ↗ General feedback thoughts questions

1:24:06 ↗ concerns on that top level not going

1:24:09 ↗ into the green yellow and red and

1:24:12 ↗ council member D Michelle

1:24:14 ↗ thank you so um can you hear me okay

1:24:17 ↗ okay

1:24:19 ↗ um I will let you know first of all

1:24:21 ↗ great job fantastic job as always but I

1:24:25 ↗ really really had to struggle with the

1:24:26 ↗ equity piece and um and I just will stay

1:24:30 ↗ on the top level but um

1:24:35 ↗ um so much of equity it does not have to

1:24:37 ↗ do with how many people are affected it

1:24:40 ↗ could be you know one person

1:24:43 ↗ um I'm just feeling as though this is

1:24:45 ↗ just off the beam

1:24:46 ↗ um and uh does the project benefit all

1:24:51 ↗ or most of the community members it

1:24:52 ↗ doesn't talk about harm and I when we

1:24:55 ↗ went through the training with Bonita

1:24:57 ↗ she she talked about uh who does this

1:25:00 ↗ benefit who does this harm and so much

1:25:03 ↗ of equity is about who got harmed

1:25:06 ↗ um and the other piece is the historic

1:25:09 ↗ part of it

1:25:11 ↗ um and I'm thinking

1:25:12 ↗ um you know

1:25:14 ↗ my example that I came up with is the

1:25:16 ↗ Native American population relatively

1:25:19 ↗ small percentage of people in our

1:25:21 ↗ community are Native American but the

1:25:24 ↗ historic harm that's been done to that

1:25:27 ↗ particular group really needs to be

1:25:30 ↗ taken into consideration along you know

1:25:34 ↗ perhaps more than their numbers

1:25:37 ↗ we have to deal with the history same

1:25:40 ↗ thing with our African-American

1:25:41 ↗ Community

1:25:43 ↗ um

1:25:43 ↗ and then um you know I almost got to the

1:25:46 ↗ point where I wondered if there's a

1:25:49 ↗ moral aspect of equity that that is not

1:25:52 ↗ measurable by the things that we've got

1:25:54 ↗ in front of us and so I almost wondered

1:25:58 ↗ I I think it should be part of the

1:26:00 ↗ criteria but so I'm just throwing this

1:26:03 ↗ out this is just me thinking

1:26:05 ↗ um

1:26:06 ↗ does it even

1:26:07 ↗ fit into the green yellow and red

1:26:09 ↗ criteria into that format because we're

1:26:12 ↗ talking about something that can't be

1:26:15 ↗ measured by numbers alone

1:26:17 ↗ it has to be within the context of what

1:26:20 ↗ has happened to a particular subgroup

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1:26:26 ↗ in the history of our country in the

1:26:28 ↗ history of our community

1:26:30 ↗ um

1:26:31 ↗ and again who does it benefit who does

1:26:34 ↗ it harm I think all those questions have

1:26:36 ↗ to be included in that criteria we're

1:26:39 ↗ not really giving that a full measure of

1:26:42 ↗ understanding so in the so the solution

1:26:45 ↗ I came up with was the equity Board

1:26:47 ↗ needs to think about this

1:26:49 ↗ so I'm quite happy to turn it over to

1:26:52 ↗ them but those were the questions that

1:26:54 ↗ went through my mind I just really I've

1:26:56 ↗ been thinking about this all day long

1:26:58 ↗ I just you know this may be Beyond

1:27:03 ↗ these issues maybe beyond the criteria

1:27:07 ↗ that we use to

1:27:09 ↗ to figure out where projects belong on

1:27:12 ↗ our list so my thoughts

1:27:17 ↗ okay thank you go ahead and turn

1:27:19 ↗ yourself off and Deputy council

1:27:21 ↗ president Hall

1:27:22 ↗ it sounds like we were kind of going to

1:27:24 ↗ mind meld earlier today because I was

1:27:26 ↗ thinking about this too and it's really

1:27:28 ↗ difficult because

1:27:30 ↗ um and that's what my solution was that

1:27:32 ↗ the equity Board needs to think about

1:27:33 ↗ this too right because I'm thinking

1:27:36 ↗ about whether a project benefits

1:27:38 ↗ everyone or most of the population is

1:27:39 ↗ not what Equity is Right Equity is about

1:27:42 ↗ investment in underserved communities

1:27:45 ↗ right and trying to lift people up so

1:27:49 ↗ um I I think there is probably a way to

1:27:52 ↗ incorporate the red green and yellow

1:27:54 ↗ into here but this this one

1:27:57 ↗ um needs to be

1:27:59 ↗ adjusted I have thoughts on the red

1:28:02 ↗ green and yellow but I will save them

1:28:04 ↗ um until it comes back to us and see

1:28:07 ↗ what the equity board and the other

1:28:09 ↗ boards think about this but I do think

1:28:11 ↗ the second part the second part of the

1:28:14 ↗ description of the equity one does it

1:28:16 ↗ improve Equitable access

1:28:17 ↗ is the right question to ask not

1:28:20 ↗ necessarily that first one because it's

1:28:22 ↗ really more about that focus on

1:28:24 ↗ underserved communities whether they've

1:28:25 ↗ been underserved a particular

1:28:28 ↗ um

1:28:29 ↗ Community or neighborhood or Etc in

1:28:33 ↗ Issaquah has been underserved or

1:28:35 ↗ historically marginalized or underserved

1:28:37 ↗ communities too so there's kind of two

1:28:38 ↗ parts to that that really need to be

1:28:39 ↗ grappled with right so

1:28:41 ↗ oh

1:28:44 ↗ council member Hall I was just going to

1:28:47 ↗ make a comment on because we've heard

1:28:49 ↗ you know Equity is a very important part

1:28:51 ↗ of course of the city's planning of the

1:28:53 ↗ city council as well so when we came up

1:28:56 ↗ with all the Criterion here

1:28:58 ↗ the overall themes and the red yellow

1:29:00 ↗ green we're trying to also think about

1:29:01 ↗ an equity lens where that's one of the

1:29:04 ↗ themes sustainability being another one

1:29:05 ↗ that we're thinking about each project

1:29:07 ↗ where is it going where are projects

1:29:09 ↗ going when you're talking about PMP or

1:29:11 ↗ even our maintenance projects

1:29:12 ↗ were our neighborhoods that have been

1:29:15 ↗ maybe underserved so that that's

1:29:17 ↗ actually part of we're trying to have it

1:29:18 ↗ as a piece of our whole process that

1:29:20 ↗ makes sense kind of an overall guiding

1:29:22 ↗ you know how it fits in there that's

1:29:24 ↗ that's a good question and we'll look

1:29:26 ↗ forward to hearing from the equity board

1:29:27 ↗ as well on Thursday

1:29:29 ↗ administrator yes thank you council

1:29:32 ↗ president uh this is going to be a very

1:29:33 ↗ iterative process and I I think that we

1:29:36 ↗ recognize as we have gone through this

1:29:39 ↗ that

1:29:40 ↗ um you know this measure is is not an

1:29:43 ↗ easy one to to to pick

1:29:45 ↗ um and and to Define and to ask the

1:29:48 ↗ equity board to take one or two passes

1:29:50 ↗ that this is not a very fair request of

1:29:52 ↗ the equity board and we we would like to

1:29:55 ↗ continue to move forward with the

1:29:56 ↗ process so I think what we'll do is

1:29:59 ↗ we'll continue at this we'll make I I

1:30:02 ↗ think lots of great comments from the

1:30:03 ↗ council this evening we'll make some of

1:30:04 ↗ these adjustments we'll talk more with

1:30:06 ↗ the equity board as well as the other

1:30:08 ↗ boards and commissions but this will be

1:30:10 ↗ a continuing process the reality is is

1:30:13 ↗ not all of our capital projects fall in

1:30:16 ↗ uh to some of these way to your

1:30:18 ↗ questions some of them are

1:30:20 ↗ um you know a little bit more

1:30:21 ↗ straightforward don't have a lot of

1:30:23 ↗ direct impact to any community members

1:30:25 ↗ if it's an infrastructure project and I

1:30:28 ↗ think but there are definitely those

1:30:30 ↗ that do and so I think as we go through

1:30:32 ↗ this process we'll be able to identify

1:30:34 ↗ perhaps those that require more

1:30:35 ↗ additional uh examination and and

1:30:38 ↗ thought if we need to double back with

1:30:40 ↗ the equity board through this we

1:30:42 ↗ certainly can as the process continues

1:30:45 ↗ to be touches here at the council

1:30:46 ↗ Council committees

1:30:48 ↗ um so it's not a one look and be done I

1:30:52 ↗ think this is we as Andrea has been

1:30:53 ↗ preparing for the meetings on Thursday

1:30:55 ↗ you know we want to make sure that all

1:30:57 ↗ the boards and commissions realize this

1:30:59 ↗ is not just a one and done uh request

1:31:01 ↗ that this is going to be an ongoing

1:31:03 ↗ discussion over multiple years but again

1:31:06 ↗ we also don't want to wait until it's

1:31:07 ↗ perfect and and not apply any of these

1:31:10 ↗ measures so we here at the council we

1:31:13 ↗ appreciate

1:31:15 ↗ the the difficulty here and know that as

1:31:18 ↗ we reach out to the community reach out

1:31:20 ↗ to our boards and commissions we're

1:31:21 ↗ going to be very honest and

1:31:22 ↗ straightforward with them as well so

1:31:24 ↗ that they don't believe that we're

1:31:26 ↗ asking them to make some sort of snap

1:31:27 ↗ judgment here's you know here's two

1:31:30 ↗ sentences

1:31:31 ↗ you know like it or not uh that's

1:31:33 ↗ because that's not appropriate at all so

1:31:35 ↗ we'll continue this process and I think

1:31:37 ↗ as we come back to the board from the

1:31:39 ↗ boards and commissions to the council

1:31:41 ↗ committees

1:31:42 ↗ um I think this will be a little bit

1:31:43 ↗ easier than to start getting our hands

1:31:45 ↗ around the specific projects that need

1:31:47 ↗ additional scrutiny

1:31:49 ↗ okay uh councilmember hunt are you

1:31:52 ↗ looking to make a comment

1:31:53 ↗ s

1:31:55 ↗ um also looking forward to hearing what

1:31:57 ↗ the equity board thinks about criteria I

1:32:00 ↗ noted from council member D Michelle's

1:32:02 ↗ comments that the climate resiliency and

1:32:05 ↗ environmental benefit those ones are

1:32:08 ↗ really about the first one is really to

1:32:10 ↗ prevent detrimental impacts to but so

1:32:13 ↗ that one is really the like dude make

1:32:15 ↗ don't make things worse and then there's

1:32:17 ↗ the project reduces detrimental impact

1:32:20 ↗ or provides a benefit but not

1:32:22 ↗ necessarily necessary to prevent an

1:32:24 ↗ anticipated detrimental impact and then

1:32:26 ↗ project has no impact on the environment

1:32:29 ↗ so that could be something for them to

1:32:32 ↗ consider too is a similar sort of

1:32:35 ↗ don't have additional detrimental

1:32:38 ↗ impacts on affected communities under

1:32:42 ↗ the equity one that was just follow-up

1:32:44 ↗ comments of those comments you made

1:32:46 ↗ earlier

1:32:47 ↗ um on the long-standing commitment

1:32:51 ↗ uh I think the issue I have is that I

1:32:54 ↗ think we will find with these current

1:32:56 ↗ criteria that there are there is this

1:32:58 ↗ long list of projects I just checked

1:33:00 ↗ they the the six year the long list of

1:33:03 ↗ projects in the back of the CIP those

1:33:05 ↗ are expected to not

1:33:07 ↗ um begin until about six years out

1:33:10 ↗ anyway and so if we have and and that's

1:33:13 ↗ not necessarily what we meant by

1:33:15 ↗ long-standing commitment those are just

1:33:16 ↗ plans for additional years in the future

1:33:20 ↗ um so I think for that one we will have

1:33:22 ↗ to live with it I think but it is really

1:33:25 ↗ meant to be more of those projects that

1:33:27 ↗ we have prioritized for you know

1:33:30 ↗ that many years like we've prioritized

1:33:32 ↗ it since 2018 would make more sense to

1:33:35 ↗ me and I think narrow down the list a

1:33:37 ↗ lot

1:33:41 ↗ the administrator so councilmember Hans

1:33:44 ↗ there are better date

1:33:47 ↗ well I think the so the the first thing

1:33:49 ↗ would be that that

1:33:51 ↗ long-standing projects list not

1:33:53 ↗ everything in that is a long-standing

1:33:56 ↗ commitment I think some of those have

1:33:58 ↗ been

1:33:59 ↗ expected to take place after you know

1:34:02 ↗ due to sequencing those are expected to

1:34:04 ↗ take place after so that's not that it's

1:34:07 ↗ been a long commitment and been on the

1:34:08 ↗ community's mind for many years it's

1:34:10 ↗ potentially that it has

1:34:12 ↗ is planned for that many years out and

1:34:15 ↗ is on track so I think it would be that

1:34:18 ↗ it is

1:34:21 ↗ either in the plan and has the timeline

1:34:24 ↗ has moved out

1:34:27 ↗ um multiple years like we've been

1:34:29 ↗ telescoping the timeline on that project

1:34:31 ↗ for multiple years

1:34:33 ↗ um or it has been surfaced in

1:34:37 ↗ by the by the council for that many

1:34:40 ↗ years if it is not in the existing plans

1:34:43 ↗ and the timeline is is moving further

1:34:45 ↗ out so I guess those would be my two

1:34:48 ↗ so if I make council president

1:34:50 ↗ councilmember hunt that becomes more

1:34:53 ↗ subjective and that's perfectly fine

1:34:55 ↗ um and if it's just a matter of we bring

1:34:57 ↗ a list to the council and the council

1:34:58 ↗ says here's the ones we consider

1:35:00 ↗ long-standing and we tick a box that may

1:35:04 ↗ be better so ultimately your decision

1:35:06 ↗ um regardless of criteria you'll know it

1:35:09 ↗ when you see it so to speak and I think

1:35:12 ↗ we'd be perfectly comfortable to figure

1:35:14 ↗ out a way to bring a list to you and

1:35:18 ↗ simply have you say okay here are the

1:35:20 ↗ seven that we consider long-standing

1:35:23 ↗ commitments by whatever definition you

1:35:25 ↗ all think is appropriate assuming it's

1:35:27 ↗ not every project which I don't think

1:35:30 ↗ that's the intent of anyone on the dice

1:35:32 ↗ but if there are those that you have

1:35:34 ↗ identified perhaps we just have a way

1:35:36 ↗ for you to do that at some future

1:35:38 ↗ meeting in the not too distant future

1:35:40 ↗ and go from there

1:35:44 ↗ I think that sounds good I think it is

1:35:47 ↗ an iterative process but I think that

1:35:49 ↗ would probably narrow down the list

1:35:50 ↗ which is the intent of these criteria

1:35:52 ↗ better than what we have uh here

1:35:55 ↗ so we'll work on that and sort through

1:35:58 ↗ the best way to do that with you and

1:35:59 ↗ again the not too distant future

1:36:03 ↗ so I'll add my comments on that area I

1:36:07 ↗ feel like the long-standing commitment

1:36:09 ↗ is just a sub section of the earlier one

1:36:12 ↗ on community priority so the community

1:36:15 ↗ priority

1:36:16 ↗ as it is talked about here

1:36:20 ↗ is

1:36:22 ↗ specifically about is the project

1:36:24 ↗ identified in a planning document

1:36:26 ↗ or is the project required to support a

1:36:28 ↗ priority identified in a city planning

1:36:30 ↗ document but I think by the fact that

1:36:33 ↗ it's called Community priority

1:36:36 ↗ long-standing commitment really is the

1:36:40 ↗ idea so that would be I think my

1:36:43 ↗ preference rather than necessarily

1:36:45 ↗ giving that extra weight and I might

1:36:48 ↗ identify the concepts as you know it was

1:36:52 ↗ a project in a CIP that has been

1:36:55 ↗ deferred multiple times or with this

1:36:58 ↗ concept of a list that

1:37:01 ↗ we are aboard come to so that's my

1:37:06 ↗ thought process I don't know if anybody

1:37:08 ↗ else is

1:37:10 ↗ getting that or if it feels like it

1:37:12 ↗ should stay as a separate idea

1:37:15 ↗ councilmember Mertz

1:37:18 ↗ I think I personally feel that whenever

1:37:22 ↗ possible uh

1:37:25 ↗ explicitly calling out where we've made

1:37:27 ↗ commitments and uh you know reinforcing

1:37:31 ↗ those commitments that we've made

1:37:32 ↗ previously having that have its own swim

1:37:34 ↗ Lane is valuable in the community seeing

1:37:36 ↗ a continuity in our thought processes so

1:37:39 ↗ I understand your point in some ways

1:37:42 ↗ it can it might feel and it might even

1:37:44 ↗ look a little bit like double dipping

1:37:45 ↗ and having two you know two separate

1:37:47 ↗ categories that are really have a

1:37:49 ↗ related function but I think so often

1:37:52 ↗ um

1:37:53 ↗ when you see in the community people's

1:37:55 ↗ attitudes towards leadership uh in the

1:37:58 ↗ community I think it's There's real

1:38:00 ↗ value in saying look we said we're going

1:38:02 ↗ to do this thing and we're going to do

1:38:03 ↗ this thing so that's my thought

1:38:08 ↗ I have other comments but I'm going to

1:38:09 ↗ look down see if anybody

1:38:13 ↗ okay so

1:38:15 ↗ um

1:38:15 ↗ my next one was really on

1:38:19 ↗ um

1:38:19 ↗ cost savings and the economics so you've

1:38:24 ↗ got this criteria around City resource

1:38:26 ↗ management and economic impact and I

1:38:29 ↗ feel like

1:38:31 ↗ those may be too

1:38:34 ↗ like

1:38:35 ↗ I think the resource management and the

1:38:37 ↗ limitations are an important thing but

1:38:40 ↗ another Factor there is

1:38:43 ↗ you know if we have two projects that

1:38:46 ↗ could be

1:38:47 ↗ co-located and co-worked on and that

1:38:50 ↗ would result in cost savings or we have

1:38:55 ↗ um

1:38:55 ↗ you know like a cost benefit analysis

1:38:59 ↗ or other things like that it just from

1:39:02 ↗ my perspective it feels like there are

1:39:04 ↗ other aspects of the economic benefits

1:39:08 ↗ of projects that are should be a

1:39:12 ↗ separate criteria versus

1:39:16 ↗ just the resource limitations so I will

1:39:19 ↗ put that out there if anybody has any

1:39:21 ↗ comments or if that's just something to

1:39:23 ↗ kind of talk to the boards and

1:39:25 ↗ commissions about whether they feel that

1:39:27 ↗ would be a good segmentation

1:39:33 ↗ and then

1:39:36 ↗ um

1:39:37 ↗ one thing as I was looking through some

1:39:39 ↗ of the other cities they called out

1:39:42 ↗ specifically the implications of

1:39:44 ↗ deferral so if this project was deferred

1:39:49 ↗ would there be additional repair costs

1:39:53 ↗ possible structural failure but also a

1:39:57 ↗ risk of possible development

1:39:59 ↗ or other things like that that we would

1:40:02 ↗ need to kind of consider as like a risk

1:40:06 ↗ factor and so I wonder if that could be

1:40:09 ↗ worked in some way

1:40:13 ↗ um

1:40:15 ↗ Deputy City administrator

1:40:18 ↗ go far it's just for clarification

1:40:19 ↗ council president so

1:40:22 ↗ um maybe the the language help avoid a

1:40:25 ↗ future cost that doesn't cover what

1:40:27 ↗ you're talking about we talk about

1:40:29 ↗ implications of deferral and risk

1:40:32 ↗ factors

1:40:33 ↗ well my issue with that is that's under

1:40:36 ↗ the replacement or Capital maintenance

1:40:38 ↗ of existing infrastructure but in some

1:40:41 ↗ ways what you might be looking at

1:40:45 ↗ so like let's say you have an existing

1:40:49 ↗ infrastructure and you feel like

1:40:52 ↗ it's going to potentially fail and you

1:40:55 ↗ want to build something new that is

1:40:57 ↗ avoiding a future cost but if it's

1:41:00 ↗ related to like a an area by a stream

1:41:04 ↗ that we want to purchase so that there

1:41:06 ↗ isn't risk of development that's not

1:41:09 ↗ related to a current infrastructure

1:41:13 ↗ or maintenance and so I think there are

1:41:16 ↗ other risk factors there to consider in

1:41:19 ↗ how we not only select our projects but

1:41:23 ↗ prioritize which ones happen in which

1:41:26 ↗ order

1:41:27 ↗ because of any potential risks

1:41:31 ↗ thank you yeah

1:41:34 ↗ um and then toward that idea I'm

1:41:39 ↗ wondering if we can work in Project

1:41:41 ↗ Readiness in the idea of resource

1:41:45 ↗ management

1:41:47 ↗ um

1:41:49 ↗ it

1:41:51 ↗ because it's not so much about

1:41:56 ↗ whether we have the staff or not but

1:41:59 ↗ whether or not like maybe the permitting

1:42:01 ↗ has already happened or the project's

1:42:04 ↗ already been designed and thus it's

1:42:07 ↗ ready you know shovel ready all of that

1:42:11 ↗ um and then another thing I noted under

1:42:15 ↗ legal mandate on bellevue's they note

1:42:19 ↗ voter approved ballot initiatives or

1:42:22 ↗ other kind of internal requirements to

1:42:24 ↗ complete that it's not always external

1:42:28 ↗ um

1:42:28 ↗ that's just a little minor one

1:42:32 ↗ um but yeah those

1:42:33 ↗ um oh and then the other thing wondering

1:42:35 ↗ if there's a way to address a balance

1:42:38 ↗ across different types of projects

1:42:41 ↗ one of the issues I might see is if

1:42:45 ↗ we're talking about like life safety and

1:42:48 ↗ all of that as a criteria that might

1:42:50 ↗ prioritize a more Transportation

1:42:53 ↗ projects and so I'm wondering if there

1:42:55 ↗ if it would be important to

1:42:58 ↗ considering our prioritization whether

1:43:01 ↗ there is a balance between types of

1:43:04 ↗ projects maybe that's in kind of an

1:43:08 ↗ equity component or you know some other

1:43:11 ↗ balancing of

1:43:13 ↗ what the total project mix looks like

1:43:17 ↗ council president Walsh just a question

1:43:19 ↗ on that so when we have or we talk about

1:43:22 ↗ legal requirements either from internal

1:43:24 ↗ or external sources or we talk about

1:43:26 ↗ required deferred maintenance projects

1:43:28 ↗ uh not seeing the final list yet of

1:43:30 ↗ course we're still preparing it but it

1:43:32 ↗ could be skewed towards one or another

1:43:33 ↗ depending on what mandates are out there

1:43:35 ↗ what requirements have changed so how

1:43:38 ↗ would you I guess instruct us or

1:43:40 ↗ recommend for us to kind of bridge that

1:43:43 ↗ Gap I guess between if it is heavy on

1:43:45 ↗ one side because of requirements that

1:43:46 ↗ are coming in

1:43:49 ↗ it's a good question I I'm not sure I

1:43:52 ↗ know the answer to that because you're

1:43:54 ↗ right there might be a huge you know

1:43:57 ↗ State requirement and so City

1:44:00 ↗ administrator

1:44:02 ↗ so council president members of the

1:44:04 ↗ council there's Art and Science to this

1:44:07 ↗ and so we're trying to give you as much

1:44:09 ↗ science as we can but there's ultimately

1:44:11 ↗ art I think the mayor Paulie's

1:44:13 ↗ responsibility in part is to present a

1:44:15 ↗ plan to the council and you know her job

1:44:18 ↗ is to try to then weigh those various

1:44:20 ↗ things it can compare with everything

1:44:22 ↗ else here we're talking about so I don't

1:44:25 ↗ know that there's a science piece to

1:44:26 ↗ accomplishing what you're having I think

1:44:28 ↗ ultimately the council is going to get a

1:44:30 ↗ plan and you're going to hold that plan

1:44:31 ↗ up and you're going to say does this

1:44:33 ↗ meet all these various criteria measured

1:44:36 ↗ unmeasured some of it's going to be gut

1:44:39 ↗ some of it's going to be you know the

1:44:41 ↗ the Practical applications of this with

1:44:43 ↗ all the constraints we've talked about

1:44:44 ↗ over the several meetings and I think

1:44:47 ↗ it's the mayor's responsibility the you

1:44:49 ↗ know use her best judgment and say I've

1:44:51 ↗ weighed all these things working with

1:44:53 ↗ the staff and here's my recommendation

1:44:55 ↗ and then you all get to react to that

1:44:57 ↗ and that's I think that final step for

1:44:59 ↗ the full Council to to step in and make

1:45:01 ↗ those decisions

1:45:03 ↗ yeah I think that's completely fair and

1:45:06 ↗ the idea that maybe it's outside of a

1:45:09 ↗ criteria Factor but it comes into play

1:45:13 ↗ in this art of balancing what ends up

1:45:17 ↗ and again these are all these are all

1:45:19 ↗ pieces of data for you pieces of data

1:45:21 ↗ for the mayor pieces of data for the

1:45:22 ↗ boards and commissions pieces of data

1:45:24 ↗ for the council serving as subcommittees

1:45:26 ↗ there are no real absolutes to it but

1:45:29 ↗ it's really to help you grapple with

1:45:31 ↗ that final decision you know does this

1:45:34 ↗ plan of projects make sense for the

1:45:36 ↗ community

1:45:38 ↗ uh councilmember D Michelle were you no

1:45:42 ↗ okay fine scratch away You're valid

1:45:47 ↗ um so do we have any other comments

1:45:50 ↗ questions concerns

1:45:52 ↗ Administration do we have what you need

1:45:54 ↗ to take this forward to the wonderful

1:45:57 ↗ boards and commissions that are going to

1:45:58 ↗ just Feast on all of this on Thursday we

1:46:02 ↗ do thank you very much okay fantastic

1:46:05 ↗ well I think at that looking over our

1:46:08 ↗ agenda that was the last item on our

1:46:11 ↗ agenda oh we've got good of the order do

1:46:14 ↗ we have any items for go to the order

1:46:16 ↗ hmm

1:46:18 ↗ no

1:46:21 ↗ checking in checking in nope okay

1:46:23 ↗ fantastic appreciate it

1:46:26 ↗ um so with that I will adjourn our

1:46:27 ↗ meeting at 8 18 pm thank you everyone

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Barbara de Michele

Zach Hall

Victoria Hunt

Russell Joe

Tola Marts

Lindsey Walsh

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