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Monday, October 10, 2022

6:30 PM · 3h 41m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topics tracked across meetings:
Good of the Order 2/15
Community Investment Strategy Project - Confluence Park, (D,A) AB 8487 4/6
Community Investment Strategy: Park Project & Park Board Feedback AB 8488 1/2
Topic
2. AGENDA ITEMS
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Public Comment Public comment on individual agenda items will also be accepted following Council Q&A. Sign up in advance at issaquahwa.gov/signup
packet pp.5–51
Staff report:
The purpose of tonight’s Committee of the Whole presentation is to provide follow up information at the direction of the City Council following the Sept. 28 2023-2024 Proposed Budget overview presentation. The Administration is seeking direction from City Council on additional information staff can provide or topics of
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2023-24 Budget: Deliberations ID 1184
90 min · Robert Hamud, Chief Financial Officer Susie Monsell, Budget Manager The 2023-24 preliminary budget is available · packet pp.53–79
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
Based on the results from the community survey, the Administration recommends the allocation of $1,591,000 of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds in the 2023-2024 budget for the following projects: • A Transportation Safety Bundle, comprised of six smaller projects like crosswalks and road safety improvements ($880,000) • Front Street Streetscape ($388,500) • Alder Festival Street ($322,500) Since the original allocation for the mobility projects was $2 million, the Administration recommends reserving the remaining $409,000 until after the projects have completed the bidding process. This will ensure that sufficient funding is available for conditions such as economic uncertainty and costs rising faster than inflation due to problems with the global supply chain. Once the bidding process is complete, the Administration recommends allocating any remaining ARPA funds to the…
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Community Investment Strategy: Community Mobility Survey Projects ID 1278
30 min · Gene Paul, Management Analyst · packet pp.81–108
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
The purpose of this staff report is to provide City Council with the Park Board’s process in determining where best to invest $4M in American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funding into the park system
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Community Investment Strategy: Park Project Recommendation ID 1280
Director · 30 min · Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services
Topics: Parks
2e
Good of the Order
0:07 good evening welcome everyone I council
0:10 president hunt call the
0:13 um October 10th city council Committee
0:16 of the whole meeting to order council
0:18 member D Michelle has uh is
0:20 participating online virtually to
0:23 protect all of our health which we
0:25 appreciate
0:27 um as a reminder we continue to have a
0:29 remote aspect of our meeting so both
0:31 staff members of the council and members
0:34 of the public may be participating in
0:36 tonight's meeting remotely the first
0:39 item on our agenda tonight I believe is
0:45 public comment and so I believe we have
0:49 several members of the public in front
0:52 of us tonight as well as I'm sure we
0:54 have people online so do we have a sign
0:57 up sheet at this point
0:59 yes okay
1:02 um do you want to call the first person
1:04 and Fletcher
1:10 so you can come up and you're gonna need
1:12 to turn on the mic so press the button
1:15 until the mic part turns red
1:21 um the one that has a mouth on it
1:24 there you go and then you can pull that
1:25 down so you can speak there you go
1:28 thanks Sam thank you
1:30 you can all hear me oh it's good to see
1:33 you all in person this is my first time
1:37 thank you
1:38 so uh I just first of all want to thank
1:41 everyone
1:44 who contributed to this amazing budget
1:46 proposal it's awe-inspiring to look at
1:50 it all and see
1:52 how much support it takes for our city
1:55 and our community to run I really mean
1:57 that I looked at the whole thing for the
1:59 first time ever
2:01 um and I want to give a special thanks
2:04 to Stacy Ben mckinstry the
2:07 sustainability manager for her icap
2:09 implementation progress report I really
2:11 super appreciated how detailed it was
2:13 and what actions were connected with it
2:16 and all of that and for staying in touch
2:18 with people for climate action I think I
2:20 forgot to introduce myself I'm Anne
2:22 Fletcher I'm a resident people for
2:24 climate action
2:27 um anyway this budget proposal
2:30 includes many many improvements nearly
2:33 doubling the sustainability budget and
2:36 with an additional staff person and over
2:39 800 thousand dollars in in budget
2:43 to fund different programs and
2:45 Consultants so that is really exciting
2:48 and then of course the large amount for
2:52 the comp plan work which could also help
2:56 further the title 18 Co climate related
3:00 code so in general the budget proposal
3:03 will increase the city's ability to
3:07 implement more of the crucial icamp
3:11 actions within a more reasonable amount
3:14 of time but specifically what actions
3:16 will have the most impact and should be
3:18 prioritized
3:19 Title 18
3:22 and specifically identify which Title 18
3:25 future items support the icap
3:28 implementation and prioritize those
3:30 there's lots of them there analyze what
3:33 items are included in that 25 percent it
3:36 says in the budget something about 25
3:38 percent and it wasn't clear what that
3:39 meant but to determine their app impact
3:42 and if needed increase that percent for
3:44 for we have two years in this budget
3:47 should we be covering more of those
3:49 items and be well positioned for the mid
3:52 and longer term actions in eye cap plans
3:55 that was a little area that that seemed
3:59 important then the building and energy
4:02 more and more initiatives that's our
4:05 largest greenhouse gas emitter more
4:08 initiatives for both efficiency and
4:10 renewable we just got started so I think
4:14 the big one I wanted to point out
4:15 tonight was more prepare now to assist
4:19 more existing building owners to make
4:22 the transition
4:24 including residential owners they
4:27 account for 25 percent of our emissions
4:30 and I did send you a paper last week and
4:36 I sent it again this week it came a
4:38 little in late but you'll you'll get it
4:40 attached there were given there were
4:44 some ideas from PCA about how
4:46 challenging this is going to be on a
4:47 large scale and what kind of structures
4:49 you might need in place in the city to
4:52 be able to do this and some of it's the
4:54 rules for the IRA are are going to be
4:57 done hopefully in a year maybe and the
5:00 that legislation how do we Implement
5:04 that in the second year of our Budget
5:08 Transportation our second grade is a
5:10 matter
5:13 in the in the budget there's funding the
5:16 parking lot study or the parking study
5:19 um to analyze ways to transition to
5:22 denser mixed-use neighborhoods and to
5:25 reduce driving emissions and encourage
5:27 mass transit so that's a part of it and
5:31 I think it's important
5:33 accelerate that work on the EV charging
5:35 infrastructure
5:37 accelerate process up and accelerate the
5:40 process I know it's kind of stuck right
5:42 now but accelerate the process to get
5:44 transit connections such as shuttles to
5:46 unserved neighborhoods that are nearby
5:48 is it just guac Mountain Talus and the
5:50 Highlands
5:52 finally funding
5:55 ample and flexible to be able to revise
5:59 our actions based on our performance
6:01 measures which I'm so excited to learn
6:03 about on Wednesday
6:05 and to meet those unexpected changes in
6:08 the world around us that we it's hard to
6:10 predict
6:11 so if we monitor annually and we need to
6:14 raise the Recology franchise fee
6:16 mentioned in the presentation
6:19 to provide needed sustainability funds
6:22 or find some other dedicated source of
6:25 funds for icap implementation just
6:28 keeping keeping that Source available
6:30 for us
6:31 and I had another idea holding a cross
6:34 Department maybe you've already done
6:36 this Think Tank
6:37 to consider and prepare for the rapidly
6:40 changing environment and economic
6:43 conditions I sent you an article just
6:44 tonight about that and finally the
6:46 overarching goal the city as a good
6:49 climate model working collaboratively
6:51 and empowering the community to work
6:53 together with you thank you
6:57 thank you and we appreciate it and I
7:00 will just mention to anybody who's
7:01 online if you press star 3 if you are on
7:05 the phone or or you can look for the
7:09 raise hand icon if you're on a computer
7:11 or smart device that will let you raise
7:15 your hand and say that you'd like to
7:16 make a comment or you can just send the
7:19 host a chat as another option we want to
7:22 hear from you so use any option that
7:24 you'll take clerk do we have another
7:27 person signed up
7:28 yes David Kepler David
7:32 [Music]
7:39 it's uh different that the podium is
7:41 here it's been there for 17 18 years
7:43 that I remember uh David kapler I'm I
7:46 guess I'm representing um this guaps
7:48 Trails club uh the friends of Lake
7:50 Sammamish Trail committee and uh and and
7:54 of course people for climate action
7:57 um I'm real excited about the um the
7:59 plans in the budget for the urban Forest
8:01 supervisor it's going to make a huge
8:03 difference it's um and then the ranger
8:06 position continuing that which is also
8:09 valuable and then the volunteer
8:10 coordinator and the volunteer
8:12 coordinator is really important this
8:15 [Music]
8:17 um the state must honestly has been more
8:20 friendly to volunteers because their
8:23 budget is a bigger problem than than
8:25 yours and um but I I think we we we have
8:29 a lot of people in this city that would
8:30 like to volunteer on you know on
8:32 different things and um I think we can
8:35 accommodate a lot more people and get a
8:37 lot more done
8:39 um the Department of Natural Resources
8:42 lands they're all mixed up with our land
8:44 up on tradition Plateau you don't know
8:46 who's who's who to call or whatever on
8:49 there's an issue King County we're all
8:52 mixed up with King County on on the
8:54 bergsma property is partly that and all
8:57 of that so we can work better with there
9:01 um also the King County
9:03 way back when they first proposed these
9:06 like Sammamish Trail there was a say at
9:09 the same time there was another proposal
9:11 for a Cedar River to Lake Sammamish
9:13 Trail
9:14 and we've got little pieces of that at
9:17 the lake sammamishander actually in the
9:19 valley between squawk and cougar but the
9:22 idea at least to get that trail from
9:24 Lake sammami State Park
9:27 squawk mountain is something we could be
9:30 working on there's a lot of little
9:31 things like that that we can do better
9:33 working with our our partners and it's
9:37 going to be it's going to be good
9:39 so um thank you for your your hard work
9:42 and of course I've been hearing about
9:43 all the climate stuff and and
9:48 received a lot of appraise from a
9:51 certain person I know so thank you
9:54 thank you David and I don't think we
9:58 have any other community members in the
10:02 audience do we have anybody online who
10:04 has indicated desire to speak
10:06 we have about a half a dozen community
10:08 members online but I don't see that any
10:12 of them have indicated a desire to speak
10:14 of just taking
10:16 one more look here
10:18 okay that's perfectly fine we will have
10:20 comment periods after each of our agenda
10:23 items so we would be happy to
10:25 accommodate comments at that time and
10:28 then always you can email us
10:30 um city council at issaquah.gov
10:34 okay
10:35 so the next item on our agenda is ID
10:38 1184 the
10:40 2023-2024 budget deliberations presented
10:44 by Robert hamoud our Chief Financial
10:46 Officer and Susie muncell our budget
10:48 manager
10:50 welcome
11:06 good evening can everybody hear me okay
11:08 we can let me give just a moment Barb if
11:11 you have anything and I don't notice you
11:14 raising your hand please go ahead and
11:16 just comment to uh tisha's the host and
11:19 she'll ping at me okay thanks
11:24 thank you Council council president
11:26 Walsh so tonight we're going to start
11:29 with any feedback from the September
11:31 28th Committee of the whole
11:34 we in the council packet for those that
11:37 are viewing from the public today and
11:38 the council packet there are questions
11:39 that the council submits to staff in our
11:42 first round of questions and the answers
11:45 to those questions are in the council
11:46 committee the whole packet for tonight's
11:49 meeting and we also have the priorities
11:54 so again the operating budget priority
11:56 level one items we're going to have
11:58 departments present tonight just a few
12:00 slides each on the title 18 the next
12:03 steps from Community planning and
12:05 development
12:06 data analytics capabilities Dale Markey
12:09 crimple making a brief presentation
12:11 tonight urban forestry management
12:14 that's going to be the parks with Jeff
12:17 Whiting tonight and additional housing
12:19 resources as well Monaco negrelia is
12:22 available in Steven Pata as well from
12:24 Community planning and development
12:27 and then we're going to have a
12:28 presentation from the capital budget
12:30 priority level one items the green
12:32 necklace Northwest Sammamish Road
12:34 non-motorized improvements
12:37 and then sustainability excuse me
12:39 sustainability Fund in solid waste admin
12:42 fee and then next steps
12:46 in the direction that we received from
12:48 the September 28th budget overview was a
12:51 crosswalk from the July 16th Council
12:53 budget which again is included in the
12:55 council packet for tonight presentation
12:57 on priority level one items party level
13:00 two and three items are included in the
13:01 staff report as well
13:03 and then the discussion on the
13:04 sustainability Fund in solid waste admin
13:07 fee and is there any questions on this
13:10 agenda for tonight
13:13 great thank you
13:16 and so we're going to start off with
13:18 operating budget priority level one
13:20 Title 18 next steps in mini Dolly wall I
13:24 believe is joining us online
13:36 Minnie are you with us
13:39 good evening council members um hi
13:42 Robert yes um
13:44 so um you know we provided some
13:46 additional information but each one of
13:48 these um and we had a discussion with
13:52 the council committee and then with the
13:54 committee of the whole uh about Title 18
13:57 whiteboard list items and out of those
14:00 lists
14:01 um the council elected the first three
14:04 uh the top three and then we also
14:08 learned about our TDR program and that
14:10 the interlocal with King County had
14:12 expired so and we've had some
14:15 conversations with the committee through
14:16 the title 18 work on that so the list
14:20 that you see up here are the four items
14:22 that were prioritized from the
14:24 Whiteboard list
14:26 and we've put in some dollars in the
14:29 budget uh our best guess at coming up
14:32 with a work program for each one of
14:34 these items but I'm basically here to
14:36 answer any questions that Council might
14:38 have on on these topics
14:42 okay councilmember hunt thank you when
14:45 you say that these are the four that
14:47 were prioritized the fourth one wasn't
14:51 actually prioritized by Council or the
14:54 Planning Development environment
14:55 committee is that correct
14:57 that is correct okay so that one was
14:59 prioritized by by staff for this update
15:04 yes so um it's a conversation we had
15:08 with the committee uh because uh our TDR
15:11 chapter references uh an interlocal that
15:15 we learned was has expired in 2014
15:19 um so uh if you know it's at council's
15:22 discretion if the fourth item here
15:24 should remain as a priority for the next
15:26 two items or not
15:28 right for the next two years sorry yeah
15:30 I just wanted to clarify the context
15:32 around which that one was prioritized
15:34 and I'll also add from the chair of the
15:36 Planning Development environment
15:37 committee we have an upcoming
15:38 conversation on this but we at the time
15:40 we discussed it we actually didn't even
15:42 know that the study was going to be
15:44 necessary or what the cost was and that
15:45 didn't actually come up so
15:48 um the Planning Development environment
15:49 committee hasn't weighed in on this and
15:51 Council has not either
15:55 okay I also have a question
15:58 um so my recollection from the pde
16:02 committee was that kind of the two big
16:05 items was missing middle housing and
16:09 then parking
16:10 so what is represented here in this
16:14 Central Issaquah parking analysis
16:16 because from my perspective I'm not sure
16:18 that as it's titled meets the
16:21 expectations of the committee
16:25 uh sure
16:27 um Stephen Padua has joined us uh he's
16:29 been taking the lead on the parking
16:31 um so I'll let him give you more details
16:33 on that
16:36 question I assumed we do a long-range
16:37 planning manager with CPD
16:41 for the central school parking analysis
16:43 it includes what was discussed with the
16:46 council Committee in terms of looking at
16:49 um evaluating different options for how
16:52 we want to build out and require parking
16:55 in central Issaquah looking at the
16:58 options of what whether we want to
17:00 continue with minimum requirements or
17:02 maximum requirements to determine if
17:05 these better align with a more recent
17:08 City plans that have been adopted since
17:10 the Central School plan was adopted and
17:12 the parking regulations were put in
17:14 place
17:15 and so what was discussed with the
17:17 council committee uh is what's in the
17:19 scope of the central is called cartoon
17:20 analysis
17:24 okay I don't remember the committee
17:26 saying that we wanted that limited to
17:29 Central Issaquah
17:31 um it was more of a commentary about
17:35 what is the parking requirements and
17:37 what parking requirements could be
17:39 holding us back from missing middle
17:41 housing and considering we don't have a
17:44 whole heck of a lot of housing in that
17:46 area
17:48 I guess
17:51 this is no longer a question so I will
17:53 save it for a comment later but thank
17:57 you for answering the question
17:59 do we have any other
18:01 questions on that area no okay you may
18:04 continue thank you
18:13 next up is Dale Markey crimp to answer
18:15 the data analytics capabilities
18:17 questions
18:20 good evening members of the council Dale
18:22 Markey crimp management analyst
18:24 emerging from the July city council
18:26 Retreat data analytics and performance
18:29 was among the top voted Focus areas for
18:32 the upcoming fiscal year with six dots
18:34 as the previous slide outlined increased
18:37 resources to data and performance
18:39 analytics will provide essential
18:41 information to improve Service delivery
18:43 and support process Improvement projects
18:46 across the city
18:47 in response to this Council Focus the
18:50 2324 proposed budget dedicates some key
18:54 resources to data and performance
18:56 Analytics namely as you can see on this
18:58 slide
18:59 by adding a full-time budget analyst to
19:03 support in budget preparation and
19:05 monitoring year-round staff namely I
19:08 myself will be able to shift my capacity
19:10 more fully to data analytics including
19:14 larger process Improvement projects for
19:15 which I have not had the capacity in the
19:17 last year
19:18 additionally a limited term management
19:20 fellow will provide some capacity for
19:23 small and pre-existing analytics
19:25 maintaining and updating our current
19:27 dashboards looking ahead to our upcoming
19:29 dashboards
19:31 the city is also moving forward on
19:33 adopting and implementing Enterprise
19:36 Asset Management
19:38 a system
19:40 in short by doing this by adopting that
19:43 system and implementing it it's going to
19:45 give us a better idea of the physical
19:47 assets the city owns how to maintain
19:49 them how to optimize them how to enhance
19:52 their efficiency it's going to give us a
19:54 lot more information about what we can
19:55 do with what we already have
19:57 to do this the 2324 budget proposed
20:01 budget has extended the limited term
20:02 senior applications analyst who's
20:04 leading that procurement process we
20:06 currently have proposals from over 21
20:08 vendors and are getting set to review
20:10 those proposals and take a look at some
20:13 demos of some systems in Q4
20:16 also
20:18 um the 2324 budget or proposed budget
20:21 excuse me continues projects that
20:23 establish a foundation for data
20:24 analytics across the city
20:26 namely Capital investments in SharePoint
20:29 migration
20:30 across the city our data sits in a lot
20:32 of different places a lot of different
20:33 buckets databases file folders
20:39 and some of them are in drive already
20:40 some of them are still in sort of
20:44 Legacy drives where they've where
20:45 they're secure but they've been for a
20:47 while and that makes hard to it makes it
20:49 more difficult to share data across the
20:50 city for departments to easily share
20:53 information with each other which holds
20:54 us back from some of the process
20:55 improvement work that we know we need to
20:58 the city's relaunch data governance
21:00 committee also mentioned the on this
21:02 slide is in the process of finalizing
21:04 some internal policies and processes to
21:06 support that data sharing and make that
21:08 a more smooth process so we spend less
21:09 time communicating about where the data
21:11 might be and actually sharing it looking
21:13 at it analyzing it using it to make our
21:15 services better
21:18 next slide please
21:19 what this budget does perhaps more than
21:23 any other dollar is it frees up capacity
21:25 full-time capacity
21:27 and year-round expertise towards data
21:29 analytics and performance
21:30 with this slide seeks to show you is how
21:33 we're we're seeing in the next biennium
21:34 the opportunity to dramatically expand
21:36 our capacity here and and the focus on
21:39 analytics and performance in 2021
21:42 you all adopted city-wide performance
21:44 measures however at the time we didn't
21:46 have the full-time staff capacity to do
21:48 more than gather data on about half of
21:51 them and give a very high level analysis
21:54 in 2022 a year we're still in
21:57 we were able to improve upon our
21:59 performance in 2021 by reporting on over
22:01 90 percent of the measures including
22:04 historical data by creating
22:07 five is like a fun number we're
22:09 currently at three live but we'll be at
22:11 five live hopefully fingers crossed by
22:13 the end of October uh public-facing
22:15 performance dashboards on Key Programs
22:18 and initiatives across the city
22:19 and we've been able to do some small
22:22 process Improvement support so small
22:25 projects like this some of the internal
22:26 changes we've made to our c-click fix
22:28 process internally at the city to make
22:30 sure we're responding more quickly and
22:31 more completely and more uniformly to
22:33 our to the Public's needs
22:36 you can see in this final box we're
22:38 optimistic about the ability with the
22:40 2324 proposed budget to build upon the
22:44 success of the last couple of years to
22:46 continue with our Citywide performance
22:47 measures reporting on those
22:49 but not only reporting the way we have
22:52 but going into deeper analysis improving
22:54 upon the dashboard that's already there
22:57 to continue dashboarding so expanding
22:59 from the current data dashboarding page
23:01 that we have on our website to include
23:02 more dashboards based on a ability to
23:06 centralize our data and thus create them
23:07 more quickly and fluidly rather than
23:09 having it be such a long process to
23:11 create something that's ready for the
23:12 public
23:13 the creation of an internal data sharing
23:16 pool or Hub into which departments can
23:20 go and share their data but also look at
23:22 the data from other departments that
23:23 they might need or often need to do
23:25 their work in a smarter faster way
23:29 expanded goal setting benchmarking
23:31 progress monitoring for all departments
23:32 it's something I I would love to be able
23:34 to do more of that I know would get us
23:35 further towards our strategic plan that
23:37 we just haven't had quite the capacity
23:38 to do in a uniform way
23:40 two to three big process Improvement
23:42 projects so looking at not small ones
23:46 like c-click fix but thinking more
23:48 broadly about procurement more broadly
23:50 about our Parks data more broadly about
23:52 our capital projects progress monitoring
23:55 and then last but certainly not least
23:57 orienting our systems and our processes
24:00 towards the goal of an open data portal
24:02 that's uh it for me I'll take any
24:05 questions
24:09 looks like you're gonna get away
24:10 scot-free
24:11 back away back away
24:18 next up is urban Forest management
24:21 [Music]
24:22 thanks Robert uh good evening Council
24:25 Jeff Watling parks and Community
24:27 Services director you can hear from my
24:28 voice I'm talking to you live from my
24:30 office I'm not sure what's going on with
24:33 my voice
24:34 um yeah so along with urban forestry
24:36 being one of your priorities we've
24:38 certainly also heard this being a really
24:40 important Community priority as well as
24:42 an important operational goal for us the
24:45 23-24 proposed budget includes a new
24:49 Urban Forest supervisor position
24:53 um with that request we propose aligning
24:55 this position into our Park Operations
24:58 Division
25:01 seems like there we go
25:03 um uh and we'll lead our natural
25:05 resources team uh so the supervisor uh
25:08 will uh provide leadership to our park
25:11 ranger as well as the proposed volunteer
25:13 Coordinator would report to uh to the
25:16 supervisor we feel like this is a really
25:18 important skill set to add to our
25:21 operations and that this position would
25:23 provide expertise leading our arborist
25:27 efforts as well as our forest management
25:29 efforts given all of our forested public
25:32 lands
25:33 and private lands and and many partners
25:35 we work with
25:37 um I'd also note
25:38 um in the budget request is a one-time
25:40 funding request of a hundred thousand
25:42 dollars to complete the city's first
25:43 urban Forest management plan
25:46 um as this supervisor comes on board uh
25:48 next year
25:50 I'm available for for any questions
25:53 [Music]
25:58 uh council member D Michelle
26:03 uh thanks Jeff and I have the same
26:05 problem you've got so
26:07 our voices are not as usual tonight
26:11 um you know when we talk about Urban
26:12 Forest management uh I think immediately
26:15 about uh how that impacts our uh
26:19 resilience when it comes to wildfires
26:21 and so I just am wondering if this will
26:24 feed into that process as well uh
26:27 working with Eastside fire and rescue on
26:29 our Wildfire resilience plan so anything
26:31 that you can add to that would be
26:34 helpful thank you you bet no you said it
26:37 well and again this this position would
26:39 really be able to work with and work
26:41 directly with you said fire and rescue
26:43 and that important work that they've
26:45 started this last year so absolutely
26:52 okay I'm not seeing any other questions
26:54 so thank you director Watling
26:59 so the next priority that received five
27:01 dots at the council retreat was
27:03 additional housing resources I'll go
27:06 ahead and just summarize the slide and
27:07 then we do have members of CPD and Human
27:09 Services on the line to answer questions
27:12 transitional housing pilot program again
27:15 is funded in the budget we are also
27:17 adding the affordable housing planner
27:19 the focus on near-term solutions to
27:21 increase housing availability and
27:22 affordability by planning and initiating
27:25 more affordable housing projects in the
27:27 city
27:28 working with Arch and establishing
27:31 relationships with other Regional public
27:33 and private partners
27:35 project manager for housing report card
27:37 project manager for housing strategy
27:39 work plan and other responsibilities
27:41 that are described more in detail in the
27:44 packet materials for tonight
27:46 [Music]
27:51 any specific questions no I'm not seeing
27:53 any questions at this time
28:00 right next is the capital budget
28:02 priority level one
28:04 and green necklace
28:12 good evening Jeff artling again um I
28:15 guess this is this is my cue
28:18 yeah um a couple of slides here uh again
28:22 um hearing and having a chance to
28:23 actually watch
28:24 um your discussions at the council
28:26 Retreat I really appreciated
28:28 um really the understanding and
28:30 recognition that you as Council had as
28:32 you discussed this that a green necklace
28:34 does not represent one single specific
28:37 project but is but it's multiple
28:39 projects so these next couple of slides
28:42 I hope to quick just give a a quick
28:44 overview a reminder of some of the uh
28:47 the
28:48 historical use that we've been doing
28:50 most recently with the green necklace
28:54 you might recall in first quarter of
28:56 2018 uh some visioning work took place
28:59 between the planning policy commission
29:01 and the park board this was towards the
29:04 tail end of the park strategic plan
29:05 being adopted
29:07 um at the same time
29:09 um the central escort plan was being
29:10 amended that work really represented the
29:13 first effort in trying to better
29:15 incorporate uh the green necklace that
29:18 was originally a central Issaquah plan
29:21 vision and concept and incorporating it
29:23 more into a city-wide giving it a
29:26 city-wide perspective that led to this
29:30 um what's referred in the bullet as
29:32 chapter seven this additional chapter
29:34 that was added into the park strategic
29:36 plan that you all adopted the second
29:38 quarter of 2018.
29:41 and the the plan itself
29:44 um uh that chapter I think really
29:46 recognizes
29:47 um some of the discussion you all had
29:49 um at your Council Retreat uh these
29:52 three bullets
29:53 um for what the vision seeks to do
29:54 really represents um the effort of this
29:57 green necklace and and and still having
29:59 it support Central Issaquah it's still
30:02 an important
30:03 um investment strategy with Central
30:05 Issaquah but it's also really intended
30:08 and the opportunities there to to serve
30:10 our current residents and and broader
30:12 Issaquah and then also begin to look
30:16 beyond our borders of Issaquah and how
30:19 it really
30:20 um if done well can unify and connect
30:22 our city and throughout our city and
30:25 into this surrounding public lands
30:27 around us
30:30 this chapter certainly recognizes uh the
30:33 work to date is an initial roadmap
30:36 and it's certainly going to require
30:38 multiple projects over multiple years
30:41 and actually further updating and
30:44 additional planning to really achieve
30:46 this long-term success next slide
30:51 as part of your question for
30:54 crosswalking and so appreciate that
30:56 question
30:57 um you know the green necklace does not
30:59 sit as in one place in the budget or
31:02 it's not represented as one Capital
31:03 project so the efforts the work to
31:07 accomplish the green necklace really
31:08 take this the shape of multiple types of
31:12 capital projects
31:13 Acquisitions are important for the green
31:16 necklace development projects will be
31:18 important elements as well as as ongoing
31:20 planning as I just mentioned before this
31:23 table really seeks to to pull out and
31:26 show some of the direct Investments that
31:29 are proposed that will directly benefit
31:31 the green necklace and again I think
31:33 represents this reality that
31:36 accomplishing this goal is not a single
31:38 project but it's going to be multiple
31:40 projects taking multiple bytes over over
31:43 multiple years and as you look at the
31:46 the various budget requests for
31:48 acquisition projects some of the
31:51 development projects some of which we'll
31:54 be talking about tonight and the
31:55 community park project that will be
31:57 located or is proposed to be located
31:59 within the green necklace as well as a
32:02 park strategic Plan update next year
32:04 over the two years budget cycle we're
32:08 approaching 11 and a half million
32:10 dollars of investment to accomplish the
32:13 the green necklace or go towards the
32:16 green necklace
32:17 next slide
32:21 of course funding alone doesn't just
32:23 make this happen
32:25 um it doesn't happen with pixie dust
32:27 this is a really really complex Vision
32:30 that's going to take a lot of time and a
32:33 lot of hard work completed project by
32:36 project you might notice in the in the
32:39 table I showed before a lot of this work
32:42 is off right away and would be seen as a
32:44 park project but our partners in public
32:46 works are going to be important role
32:48 players in this too and that as they're
32:50 completing some important right-of-way
32:52 work some of this connectivity is going
32:54 to happen in right away so I just say
32:56 that to reflect the complexity and the
32:59 really really important staff work it's
33:01 going to take to see this through and
33:04 make this happen and as such Staffing
33:07 capacity and how we organize ourselves
33:09 how we resource ourselves is such a
33:12 another key factor in the rate of of
33:15 product of progress progress that we can
33:18 make sorry there goes my voice and then
33:21 last item as I mentioned earlier the
33:23 park strategic Plan update it's due for
33:25 an update to be done by 2024 so we're
33:28 going to begin that update work in
33:30 Earnest with the community in 2023 and
33:32 that really represents another
33:34 opportunity to further Define the green
33:37 necklace the vision that was laid out in
33:39 the 2018 plan and also take a look at
33:42 specific projects and priorities
33:49 available for any questions or comments
33:52 councilmember hunt
33:54 thank you so thank you for the breakdown
33:57 of the funding that's set aside for the
34:00 Acquisitions and the planning
34:02 and the comments on the complexity I'm
34:05 wondering
34:06 um if you can provide more information
34:08 about what from a staffing and a
34:11 resource perspective it would take to
34:15 accelerate this process to change our
34:18 strategy to a more proactive
34:20 process I know that we've been acquiring
34:24 we've set aside money and we've been
34:26 acquiring properties and we have had
34:28 this plan for for many years now and I'm
34:31 wondering
34:33 what it would take to shift us into a
34:36 mode where we are realizing this and my
34:40 rationale for the question is properties
34:42 will get more expensive the city is
34:44 growing
34:45 properties are being developed as well
34:47 and so just wondering what we can do in
34:51 this budget which is a two-year budget
34:54 speed this up
34:57 [Music]
34:58 boy that's a great question
35:01 um do I have an hour to answer it
35:04 you know
35:07 as we look at like any municipality when
35:10 we look to
35:12 take a vision and bring a vision into
35:15 reality
35:18 looking at what it takes to accomplish
35:21 that Park planning work to bring
35:24 something into reality I think we have
35:26 to first understand
35:29 the when you break down the work an
35:32 acquisition isn't just an acquisition
35:34 it's it's a it's a complex real estate
35:36 transaction
35:38 um often there's there's grant funding
35:40 on the back end to to try and pull
35:42 together the the financial strategy
35:44 right
35:45 um a capital project
35:47 um any and all of them are immensely
35:49 Complex Community engagement
35:51 um is not a simple uh one public meeting
35:56 um it's it's multiple interactions and
35:58 so I I think if if there's a real desire
36:02 and earnestness to see how we speed up
36:04 this work I you know as you know I I
36:08 don't say this because I'm comparing us
36:10 to other jurisdictions but you know as
36:14 we look at how cities organize
36:17 themselves from a park Planning and
36:19 Development standpoint
36:21 um considering more of a park planning
36:23 division or a park planning team
36:25 um as the park plan was adopted you
36:27 might remember we had two Park planners
36:30 um as we headed into covid uh where we
36:33 now have one
36:35 um but as a division do we look at
36:36 providing some sort of a you know a
36:41 additional Staffing I guess and that
36:43 could go a myriad of different ways so
36:44 so I guess I'll I'll stop I'll stop
36:46 there
36:50 did that answer your question it does I
36:53 I do have one follow-up which is um
36:55 there is funding set aside for the
36:57 Acquisitions and I would say in the
36:58 proposed budget with this structure does
37:01 it does it continue the the good work
37:04 that has been going on in terms of
37:06 Acquisitions but does it sort of
37:07 continue the current strategy in your
37:09 opinion
37:10 foreign
37:11 yeah it certainly makes the funding
37:13 available right as I know Jennifer Fink
37:16 is listening into this as well but as we
37:18 identify
37:20 um really strategic properties and
37:21 strategic gaps
37:23 um I think that strategy Remains the
37:24 Same and that we uh reach out we
37:27 establish relationships
37:29 um I think you've heard me certainly
37:30 share before you know Acquisitions are
37:32 one of those
37:33 um projects that we don't always control
37:36 the shot clock it really is dependent
37:39 upon the seller but certainly this this
37:42 funding strategy of having these kind of
37:44 funds available
37:45 um certainly allow us to continue that
37:47 effort and also look at leveraging that
37:51 investment there's great opportunities
37:54 to find Grant funds to sort of further
37:56 our our acquisition dollars
38:01 okay and and the last thing in in the
38:04 past
38:05 it's my understanding that when the
38:07 funds haven't been used for acquisition
38:09 they've been set aside they've rolled
38:10 into the next
38:12 um budget year and then we've sort of
38:14 maintained that availability for when
38:16 properties and that that's sort of
38:18 continuing as well with this budget is
38:20 that correct
38:21 yeah and that's purely that's council
38:23 discretion so um you know as
38:26 reauthorizations are sought to as you
38:29 said rural Capital dollars forward that
38:31 is something that is brought back to U.S
38:33 Council for consideration but
38:36 um it's certainly a strategy that other
38:38 cities use
38:39 um sorry
38:42 um to
38:44 sort of see the C acquisition funds as
38:48 opportunity funds um and realizing when
38:50 when an opportunity comes up you want to
38:53 make sure funding's available but
38:54 reauthorizations are a council
38:57 discretion each each year
38:59 thank you
39:00 [Music]
39:02 okay I think we are done with this
39:04 section
39:09 so that
39:11 tr28 North Sammamish Road excuse me
39:14 Northwest Sammamish Road non-motorized
39:15 improvements received eight dots at the
39:17 city council
39:19 and just to specify on this item it's
39:21 the design right-of-way acquisition and
39:24 permitting in the next two years it's
39:25 not the construction funding so for that
39:28 there's 700 000 in 2023 I completed to
39:32 date we have topography survey initial
39:34 Community engagement survey and the city
39:37 has began the environmental evaluation
39:40 the next steps more Community engagement
39:43 including an open house on November 9th
39:45 Transportation Advisory board on
39:47 December 15th Council update in early
39:50 2023.
39:52 Anna Emily moon is on the line if you
39:54 have any questions on this
40:00 I'm not seeing any questions thank you
40:04 sustainability fun and solid waste fee
40:08 we have Stacy the mckinstry here today
40:12 [Music]
40:25 good evening members of the council uh
40:27 Stacy Van mckinstry sustainability
40:29 manager and I'm here to to share a
40:32 little bit of information about the
40:33 sustainability fund as well as answer
40:36 any questions
40:41 yeah
40:43 great so we were asked how far the 2324
40:47 budget proposal would get us in terms of
40:49 icap implementation
40:51 with the current budget request we will
40:54 initiate approximately 90 of the icap
40:57 actions by the end of 2024. there are a
41:01 lot of caveats here this is not saying
41:03 we will have completed 90 of the icap or
41:05 that we're 90 of the way towards the
41:08 targets this is just that we have at
41:10 least started 90 of those actions by the
41:13 end of the biennium
41:16 um we will be in future years then uh
41:20 continuing on with a number of actions
41:22 that are ongoing or were flagged as
41:25 longer-term actions
41:27 again just want to emphasize this is not
41:29 representative of progress towards
41:31 targets we are going to need to evaluate
41:33 in 2024 if our actions are really moving
41:36 the needle towards our targets or if
41:39 we'll need to consider a new approach to
41:41 our actions or plan implementation
41:45 side
41:46 we are also asked to consider what we
41:49 could achieve if we raise the admin fee
41:52 to increase revenue for the
41:53 sustainability fund the language here is
41:56 a little confusing what we were
41:59 evaluating here was a proposed increase
42:01 from the current budget request which
42:04 considers a six percent admin fee if we
42:07 were to raise that to nine percent uh in
42:10 the biennium
42:12 the administration is not proposing that
42:14 race but I want to talk through what
42:16 that scenario would look like and how
42:18 those funds could be spent if we did
42:20 have a nine percent admin fee
42:22 we estimate approximately 300 000 in
42:26 additional revenue for the
42:28 sustainability fund
42:30 um and those funds could be allocated
42:31 towards additional icap implementation
42:35 some initial considerations for how the
42:37 funds could be spent would be around
42:39 retrofitting municipal buildings for
42:42 Energy Efficiency decarbonization or
42:44 renewable energy
42:45 electrifying our Fleet so carrying out
42:48 any recommendations from our Fleet study
42:50 that'll finish up this fall
42:52 and then adding additional funds to our
42:55 electrification incentive so expanding
42:57 our heat pump program and other
42:59 electrification programs that are
43:01 forthcoming
43:02 with this additional Revenue we'd be
43:05 able to make small progress on these
43:07 items if we do increase that fund and we
43:09 could really scale those projects with
43:12 available funds
43:14 again just to re-emphasize that the
43:18 current budget request for 2324 is
43:21 looking at the six percent admin fee and
43:24 this is just that scenario for the nine
43:25 percent
43:27 um that is all I had I'll take any
43:29 questions
43:32 council member a
43:34 um thank you council president
43:37 so what's the actual dollar amount that
43:39 would be levied say on a buy
43:42 monthly basis
43:45 to go from six to nine percent on the
43:48 on the bill
43:50 cool
43:51 phone I'm just trying to get a sense of
43:52 what what what people would see on top
43:54 of the fact that it's already going up
43:56 right what the individual impact is yeah
44:00 council member Ray good question it's
44:02 something that we've been looking at
44:03 feverishly in the budget Department it
44:06 would be approximately two dollars now
44:09 that doesn't include what it would be
44:10 with any rate increases items like that
44:12 for average household to be
44:14 approximately two dollars
44:15 okay great thanks
44:20 Deputy council president Hull
44:23 thank you very much for um
44:27 taking our feedback on this and kind of
44:29 chewing on what these extra dollars
44:31 could be spent on if Council wanted to
44:33 move in that direction so two questions
44:35 first
44:36 um if council did want to move in this
44:38 direction no concerns with staff
44:40 capacity to execute the additional three
44:43 hundred thousand dollars
44:45 [Music]
44:50 will ask us Deputy council president
44:52 members the council good evening
44:54 I I think I would characterize it it
44:56 depends
44:58 um you know this is uh again it's three
45:00 hundred thousand dollars annually and so
45:03 the reality is if this changes with the
45:05 new franchise on July 1 it's probably
45:07 been about 150 000 uh if it is put
45:10 toward one initiative one one purchase
45:13 one asset then probably very little
45:16 um additional staff required if this is
45:18 going to be something to expand even
45:20 further an initiative or create
45:22 something different than it would
45:24 probably take more time I think what you
45:26 see or what you saw what you see among
45:29 these three are pretty much asset based
45:31 uh ads
45:33 um so and again
45:35 when we look at the fee increase with
45:39 the service rate increase again this
45:42 would all occur in the summer
45:44 um we're concerned that there will be a
45:46 significant uh concern by our residents
45:49 to see the increases and so we all we've
45:51 also learned from Recology and talking
45:54 with the city attorney reviewing the
45:55 agreement uh Recology has the option of
45:58 adding this administrative fee to the
46:00 bill so currently it is something that
46:02 is absorbed within their operating costs
46:04 they could choose on July 1 if we were
46:07 to go from six to nine percent to put
46:09 that additional three percent on the
46:11 bill so our residents would see not only
46:13 a rate increase but they would also see
46:15 this brand new fee that they'd not
46:18 previously seen so
46:19 um I I I think that we hear the council
46:23 about your concern about wanting to do
46:25 more with the sustainability fund it's
46:28 administration's feeling that perhaps
46:30 the adjustment of this administrative
46:31 fee perhaps is not the way to fund
46:33 additional projects in in 2023 if the
46:36 Council next year as you review the
46:38 second year of the biennium decide you'd
46:40 like to make the adjustment starting
46:41 perhaps January 1 24. I think we would
46:46 be more
46:47 agreeable to that so I think that really
46:50 comes down what would you like to do if
46:52 you had between 150 and 300 000 to spend
46:56 we could then come back to you at your
46:58 meeting next Monday and perhaps respond
47:00 to a proposal with a funding source
47:08 okay
47:09 um never mind on my second question that
47:11 I'm going to chew on that for comments
47:13 but thank you very much for the
47:14 insightful responses both of you
47:18 councilmember hunt did you have a
47:20 question okay uh go ahead council member
47:23 March can you can you back up
47:25 um and can we talk about tr028 Northwest
47:28 Sammamish Road non-motorized Improvement
47:30 project
47:32 sure it took me a minute to get my
47:36 documents in order here
47:40 so the adopted 2022 budget Had a Million
47:45 Dollars
47:47 um in design uh towards towards design
47:51 work basically uh and design and
47:54 engineering and then the
47:57 the capital Improvement program shows
48:01 seven hundred thousand dollars in 2023
48:04 and then expenditures of five million
48:07 nine hundred thousand dollars in 2024.
48:11 um but the draft 20 23 2024 budget shows
48:17 zero for uh expenditure for 2024.
48:20 so what's up with that
48:22 I think Emily moon is on the on the line
48:25 and she can explain
48:29 [Music]
48:33 city council uh to the best of my
48:36 knowledge at this moment uh the design
48:39 right of way and permitting uh is
48:42 estimated to take two years uh this is a
48:45 complex project with uh multiple parties
48:48 that need to be engaged and I believe
48:51 that phase of the project is taking uh
48:53 longer than was originally estimated
48:57 um in addition we're still trying to put
49:00 good solid effort into that design and
49:02 make sure that the design encompasses
49:04 all that this project needs to include
49:07 and we want to do that right
49:09 and so at that point then we'll make
49:12 sure that we have estimated the
49:13 construction budget correctly and have
49:16 planned for that that's why we'll be
49:19 continuing with cleaning engagement and
49:21 coming back to you to give you an update
49:24 and to seek those construction funds
49:26 after that design work has been
49:30 concluded
49:31 [Music]
49:33 um can I ask how much of the million
49:35 dollars budgeted for 2022 of which 909
49:39 091 dollars was estimated for design and
49:43 Engineering will is anticipated to have
49:45 been spent in by the end of 2022
49:51 the basket finance department has that
49:54 information
49:56 I apologize we don't have it at our
49:57 fingertips tonight but we're happy to
49:59 follow up with it after the meeting okay
50:00 I I my where I'm going with this is
50:04 wanting to know that
50:05 um we are making all due diligence to
50:08 move forward with this I'm hearing that
50:09 design and Engineering will take longer
50:11 than we thought but I sure hope we have
50:13 our foot on the gas and and we spent the
50:15 money in 2022 that we budgeted in 2021
50:18 towards this since the Council made it
50:21 an extremely high priority item thank
50:23 you
50:24 and if I may I hate to use the term foot
50:27 on the gas considering all the
50:29 sustainability discussion we've had but
50:31 um if that's the term we're using then
50:33 the foot is on the gas uh with the
50:35 Council made very clear during the last
50:37 budget cycle this is a priority
50:39 um it remains a priority as you can see
50:40 on the slide this Project's actively
50:43 being worked I think one of the
50:44 challenges we had with some of our large
50:46 capital projects that aren't yet
50:48 designed is to know what dollar amount
50:50 to put in for construction and so I
50:52 think you'll you'll see at several
50:53 points in the document there's zeros
50:56 because we just don't know and I think
50:58 as we come back to you next year as we
51:01 do the next Capital Improvement plan we
51:04 want to separate projects out because I
51:05 think that's not appropriate it's not
51:07 transparent for you it's not transparent
51:09 for the community we should have
51:11 projects that are clearly designed than
51:12 projects that are clearly construction
51:13 so we can make that delineation but our
51:16 foot is on the gas
51:18 uh is perhaps inappropriately is that an
51:21 analogy is but we are moving this
51:23 product forward uh with the greatest
51:25 diligence and uh it is I think easily
51:28 the largest most important Capital
51:30 project we have going Citywide okay
51:32 thank you
51:37 okay so I think we've got a question
51:41 from council member hunt on back to the
51:45 icap area
51:48 if we can advance yep
51:52 uh next slide I think
51:54 [Music]
51:57 um so on this slide
52:00 um I'm wondering about what the
52:02 breakdown of I I think that this is
52:05 indicating that the bottom three items
52:08 um in the proposed spending options
52:10 would total approximately three hundred
52:12 thousand dollars annually
52:14 um could you break down how much
52:17 approximately is for the retrofit of
52:19 municipal buildings
52:21 yes and apologies that was not the
52:23 intent those were potential items that
52:25 the budget could be spent on
52:28 so 300 000 could go go towards a
52:31 purchase of a couple Municipal vehicles
52:34 um that could all go towards our
52:36 electrification campaign it could cover
52:38 a small amount of Municipal retrofits
52:42 um so it would be a discussion with what
52:44 is the priority that we focus those
52:46 funds on
52:48 and council member High members of the
52:50 council we did do some initial
52:53 investigation of course there's a a plan
52:56 a uh investigation budgeted this year
52:59 for the municipal buildings but we asked
53:01 the question of our Consultants what's
53:02 the ballpark costs and I think the
53:04 number we got back for the community
53:06 center was in excess of a million
53:08 dollars
53:09 so um I think as Miss mckendry said
53:13 um you know if it's 150 000 if it's 300
53:16 000 there's probably not a lot of
53:17 traction to be made with that amount of
53:19 money uh for the municipal buildings but
53:22 certainly uh if the council felt they
53:24 wanted to make additional Investments
53:26 the fleet vehicles or the assistance
53:29 with the electrification uh program
53:31 that's under are already underway or
53:33 would I think make a lot of sense
53:36 well that thank you that raises a
53:38 different question though which is I
53:40 believe that in 2019 we did a study on
53:44 the buildings and then we're going to be
53:46 doing another study in this budget 2023
53:49 and if we know that at this time we that
53:54 the million dollars is not budgeted for
53:56 those future uh retrofits then
53:59 presumably we might be setting ourselves
54:01 up to do another study at another time
54:04 to determine the feasibility so I'm
54:06 wondering about that because I to my
54:07 knowledge we did a study in 2019 on on
54:10 this same topic but now we're doing
54:12 another study because that study is no
54:14 longer relevant
54:20 the study that's proposed in the budget
54:23 is to look at a decarbonization of our
54:26 buildings and then also renewable energy
54:28 potential
54:30 um with an existing consultant that we
54:32 have so uh any additional funding that
54:35 we did put towards retro could go
54:37 towards retrofits then for those
54:39 buildings
54:41 so that's a different study than was
54:43 done in 2019 the 2019 study was a
54:46 general facility assessment of the
54:48 buildings which we have included in the
54:50 budget to refresh because the uses of
54:53 some of the buildings have changed one
54:55 building has been completely vacated
54:56 another building you know the city hall
54:58 building has changed its uses
55:01 so I think on the the renewable energy
55:04 side it is something brand new that
55:06 we're doing again we think that the
55:09 dollars will be high if this is
55:11 something that the council feels needs
55:12 to be added uh it's not probably not
55:14 practical in 23 just because we won't
55:16 have a list of specific needs in each
55:20 building but if it's something the
55:21 council believes is a priority in 24
55:23 we would say that it would need to be in
55:26 excess of a million dollars we do not
55:28 have that kind of flexibility in the
55:30 budget and so we would ask the council
55:31 this evening for that direction so that
55:34 we can come back with some substantial
55:36 changes to the budget in a week in order
55:39 to free up those dollars if you're
55:42 looking at that three to from six to
55:44 nine percent that three hundred thousand
55:45 dollar range if there's something you'd
55:47 like to see added there we think there's
55:49 enough flexibility in the budget that we
55:51 could come back next week with a
55:52 proposal on that level but not at the
55:55 million dollar level would require us to
55:58 make significant changes
56:02 foreign
56:04 last question on this so for the
56:07 retrofit municipal buildings do I
56:09 understand correctly that the 300 could
56:11 be used towards some
56:13 some
56:17 uh Energy Efficiency programs or
56:19 renewable energy but it's just not the
56:20 complete retrofit of the of any of our
56:23 buildings that we think would be the
56:25 likely candidates for retrofit so it
56:28 would it would be possible to use this
56:29 funding for that but not cover the
56:31 entire cost as what I'm gathering yes I
56:34 think that's possible the the study that
56:38 is being mentioned was just a desktop
56:40 exercise to give us a rough estimate of
56:42 what it would cost to Electrify and add
56:45 renewable energy to one building we'll
56:46 be looking deeper into that but yes any
56:49 amount of funding could probably Advance
56:51 some work in municipal buildings okay
56:54 thank you
56:57 okay I am not seeing any other questions
57:02 and
57:07 yeah okay Deputy council president Hall
57:09 thank you
57:11 um along the same lines
57:15 is also an appropriate option for
57:17 Council to consider
57:19 if we were interested in moving the
57:21 administrative fee up to nine percent
57:24 to collect those dollars as designated
57:28 fund balance for some high price
57:31 sustainability initiative to come in the
57:34 future
57:34 is that an option and in your opinion
57:38 would that be an appropriate way
57:40 to save money for something like that
57:42 because I'm also thinking about you know
57:44 transparency and ensuring that the
57:45 community knows that if we are saving
57:47 money it's for a particular project so
57:49 maybe if you could just respond to those
57:51 comments
57:52 I think that is an option I wouldn't say
57:55 with confidence right now that we have
57:57 that specific project that we could
57:59 speak to I think in six months to a year
58:03 we could I'd want to complete some of
58:06 this other analysis I also think there's
58:09 opportunity we can come back with those
58:10 specific asks to counsel when we have a
58:12 particular project in mind
58:15 and if I may add you know this is an
58:17 Enterprise fund of sorts and so what we
58:19 do with other Enterprise funds is that
58:21 we allocate sometimes money for
58:23 operations and sometimes money for
58:24 Capital and so if that is the direction
58:26 that the council wanted to go
58:28 um we would not be able to support the
58:31 level of programming that we're doing uh
58:33 this year for example so if we were to
58:35 pull some of that back and say we want
58:37 to save that for Capital Improvements so
58:40 that would have an impact on the ongoing
58:41 operational things but again we're kind
58:43 of dealing in hypotheticals on dollar
58:45 amounts and projects and how many years
58:47 you'd want to put things aside uh I
58:50 guess my point is the council has
58:51 flexibility to do that uh and if that's
58:54 something you want to begin to address
58:56 at the first year of the biennium you
58:58 can if it's something you'd rather
58:58 address uh when the with the revisions
59:01 to the budget for 24 you could do that
59:03 as well
59:06 council member hunt thanks
59:10 um related to that last comment from the
59:12 city administrator this was one that I
59:14 emailed in
59:16 so I'm wondering we have this clean
59:18 buildings funding that is allocated in
59:20 the budget for both years
59:22 um I believe and I was wondering your
59:25 thoughts on
59:26 using some of that prioritizing some of
59:28 that for our own buildings
59:31 yes so we have a hundred thousand
59:33 dollars that Council authorized in July
59:37 we requested an additional 50 000 for
59:40 the 2024 budget assuming the pilot
59:43 between now and the end of 23 goes well
59:46 so we could put those funds uh yes those
59:50 funds could be prioritized for municipal
59:53 buildings right now we're carrying
59:55 forward the priorities that were set by
59:56 council at that meeting this summer but
59:59 those additional funds for 24 could be
1:00:01 prioritized for municipal buildings
1:00:04 or welcome a conversation about shifting
1:00:06 those priorities overall as well
1:00:09 as well okay thank you
1:00:13 okay I think we are done with this
1:00:16 section
1:00:19 [Music]
1:00:23 councilmember the only council member is
1:00:25 the only slide we have left tonight is
1:00:27 the next steps so again we're on October
1:00:31 budget deliberations
1:00:33 um for next week
1:00:35 and then November 7th final public
1:00:37 hearing budget and related ordinances
1:00:40 adopted and then our question at the
1:00:42 bottom are there any additional items
1:00:44 the council wishes to discuss
1:00:48 okay so at this point we're looking for
1:00:50 any other questions that are coming up
1:00:52 then we're going to have a public
1:00:54 comment opportunity and then we will go
1:00:58 into some of the deliberations so
1:00:59 councilmember hunt
1:01:02 thank you
1:01:03 um one of the questions that I had had
1:01:06 asked was about the Patrol
1:01:09 police patrol car take-home policy
1:01:13 Associated costs
1:01:14 and specifically it says in our budget
1:01:18 that this uh the the proposed funding
1:01:22 represents the initial stages of a
1:01:24 patrol car take-home policy so my
1:01:28 question is whenever we have an initial
1:01:30 stages of something I think it's
1:01:32 important that we know about the the
1:01:35 cost of the program to know the full
1:01:37 cost of the subsequent stages of that
1:01:41 and so what I
1:01:44 um that question the intent was to
1:01:45 understand the subsequent stages and
1:01:48 those those Associated costs so if if I
1:01:51 could get a sense of how much those
1:01:52 subsequent costs would be that would be
1:01:55 helpful and I do understand and it's in
1:01:58 our budget the cost for 2024 2023 and
1:02:01 2020 so this question about
1:02:03 future
1:02:07 I'll ask council president councilmember
1:02:09 Han Alaska Chief Schwann who's on the
1:02:11 line to uh to add to this but first we
1:02:15 see this still as a pilot we want to
1:02:17 have a clear understanding of all the
1:02:19 impacts the additional purchase we're
1:02:21 proposing for the next year assist with
1:02:24 doing that I don't know that we have a
1:02:27 final number uh Chief Swan can talk
1:02:29 about the the general numbers that we
1:02:31 have talked about that at this point
1:02:33 would bring us to the level that we need
1:02:35 also included in the answers are some of
1:02:38 the operational benefits we see and have
1:02:40 seen and so Chief Swan good evening I'll
1:02:43 ask maybe if you could talk a little bit
1:02:46 about what you think the total number
1:02:48 might be as we play this out of vehicles
1:02:52 and then maybe also refer a little bit
1:02:54 to the operational advantages that this
1:02:57 brings to us
1:03:00 sure thank you I hope you can all hear
1:03:04 we can thanks okay
1:03:07 um yes the take-home vehicle program and
1:03:11 its pilot has been going now for
1:03:14 um almost a year and it's been very
1:03:16 beneficial in number one Recruitment and
1:03:19 number two response of officers when we
1:03:21 need that in a expeditious Manner and
1:03:25 for example
1:03:26 the reason it's a benefit to the city is
1:03:29 because when our officers are at their
1:03:32 residence right now as it stands if they
1:03:34 if someone doesn't have or if an agency
1:03:36 didn't have a take-home car policy and
1:03:39 they need someone to respond for an
1:03:40 emergent purpose
1:03:42 what happens in those circumstances is
1:03:44 that it's very difficult for them to get
1:03:46 there in a timely manner and it gets to
1:03:48 be where it's almost an hour's response
1:03:51 whereas that's because in driving to the
1:03:54 police department to even get a vehicle
1:03:55 they need to respond in a they don't
1:03:58 have the lights there's no ability for
1:04:00 an emergency response
1:04:02 on top of that they also have to go and
1:04:04 get all their gear on once they get
1:04:06 there and put all their gear into a car
1:04:09 that they've located and move forward
1:04:11 So speaking on that this expedites that
1:04:15 entire process to where we've even
1:04:16 called people in recently where we've
1:04:18 had short on shift and short staffed and
1:04:21 they were able to get there in a much
1:04:22 faster fashion because they were able to
1:04:24 spawn directly haven't been an emergent
1:04:26 at this point but it's the event of an
1:04:29 emergent situation
1:04:31 to get number of vehicles up to speed we
1:04:34 have in the pilot program not everybody
1:04:36 chooses to use the take-home car we do
1:04:39 have pool cars that is why there is a
1:04:41 handful of cool cars that we have on top
1:04:45 of having take-home vehicles
1:04:47 so what we've budgetized in what you've
1:04:50 seen in 23 24 is to make sure that we
1:04:55 have the ability to have a vehicle for
1:04:57 officers that are on patrol
1:04:59 they are able to get here in a timely
1:05:03 fashion and we do also still then have
1:05:06 pool cars that are here available
1:05:08 for the officers that choose not to have
1:05:10 a take-home vehicle
1:05:12 and if we need a vehicle also if someone
1:05:15 of their vehicles that's a take home is
1:05:17 being serviced that is another huge
1:05:20 piece and I can also probably get
1:05:23 numbers if you are in need of those for
1:05:26 how many agencies actually in the state
1:05:28 that don't have take-home vehicles
1:05:31 that's another huge piece right now
1:05:33 because there are way fewer that don't
1:05:36 have that than do in fact they're even
1:05:39 local agencies I'm working to start that
1:05:42 program as well our neighboring agency
1:05:45 because of the fact that it is such a
1:05:46 huge recruitment piece and retention
1:05:49 and chief Schwann uh if just to to
1:05:53 reiterate councilmember Hunt's question
1:05:55 what do you think the maximum number
1:05:58 might be if we find that this is
1:06:01 successful and does all the things you
1:06:03 just described what would be the maximum
1:06:05 number of Patrol Vehicles then we would
1:06:07 need to purchase in addition to what's
1:06:09 currently in the fleet
1:06:12 from what's currently currently we have
1:06:13 17 vehicles in the fleet that are
1:06:16 specifically Patrol
1:06:18 and so what we've realized in with
1:06:21 Patrol being fully staffed that would be
1:06:24 another 15 to 17 vehicles for our basic
1:06:28 Patrol depending upon how many
1:06:32 as far as it goes replacement wise so
1:06:35 you're also going to have those vehicles
1:06:37 that get to be a certain mileage and
1:06:39 what council member hunt had asked as
1:06:41 far future re getting a realization as
1:06:44 it stands now we have vehicles that
1:06:46 annually need to get replaced because of
1:06:49 mileage or other circumstances and so
1:06:52 that's already a factor that's already
1:06:54 in the budget so that would be a added
1:06:57 or added cost
1:07:00 um because we'd obviously have those
1:07:01 more vehicles
1:07:03 so Chief Schwann we're basically talking
1:07:05 about a doubling of the patrol Fleet in
1:07:08 order to do this if we are successful
1:07:10 and feel that the pilot has brought the
1:07:13 benefits that we think it will is that
1:07:15 correct
1:07:16 that is correct also part of that and
1:07:19 the reason it doubled is uh we also have
1:07:22 some Vehicles they're officers right now
1:07:24 that currently want to take home
1:07:25 vehicles and we don't have enough right
1:07:27 now to even give those to them so
1:07:29 they're driving some unmarked vehicles
1:07:31 or even a Crown Vic that we have they're
1:07:34 using those as options at this point
1:07:37 because we don't have enough at this so
1:07:39 we want to make sure everybody has that
1:07:41 opportunity
1:07:43 thank you
1:07:45 councilmember hunt did you have a
1:07:47 follow-up on that I
1:07:49 to clarify so if I so we have five
1:07:53 additional vehicles
1:07:55 um to support the patrol take-home
1:07:57 policy in the budget currently
1:07:59 um I believe so uh 17 total so that's
1:08:06 that would be more than doubling of this
1:08:09 over the next
1:08:11 um years if we were to
1:08:13 to continue the program can I I guess
1:08:15 the question is can I just multiply this
1:08:20 two and expect that it's in that
1:08:22 ballpark for the next subsequent years
1:08:26 multiply what by two the the costs that
1:08:29 are currently associated with the
1:08:31 initial phase which is 490 000 for the
1:08:36 cars and 130 to 900 I believe 1000 for
1:08:40 the maintenance
1:08:43 well if we're asking the budget
1:08:45 currently has five we would need then
1:08:47 approximately 10 more under the best
1:08:49 case scenario so I guess so I'm asking
1:08:51 is it fair to to approximate based on
1:08:54 that that
1:08:55 yeah yeah the the their their widgets
1:08:58 they're they're they're single costs I
1:09:00 mean the other challenge that I think
1:09:02 you're aware of uh members of the
1:09:04 council is procurement
1:09:06 um these vehicles are very hard to find
1:09:08 uh the vehicles that we had budgeted for
1:09:11 2022 uh we were unable to get we had to
1:09:15 ask the council to allow us to use a
1:09:17 purchasing contract from the state of
1:09:18 Arizona uh to purchase those vehicles
1:09:21 for 2022 we have no assurance that we'll
1:09:23 actually get them
1:09:25 um we hope so of course uh but until
1:09:27 they arrive we won't know that we have
1:09:29 them so it's going to continue I think
1:09:31 that's going to have an impact on this
1:09:33 program as well uh We've Chief uh and I
1:09:37 have talked we may have to look at other
1:09:38 vehicles that are available for
1:09:40 take-home that perhaps aren't uh the
1:09:43 standard Patrol vehicle
1:09:45 um but I think what you're hearing from
1:09:47 us this evening is this is important
1:09:49 from Public Safety standpoint it's
1:09:50 important from a recruitment and
1:09:52 retention standpoint and yes it does
1:09:53 cost more money and as you heard from us
1:09:56 on the first evening of the budget
1:09:58 presentation that in order to continue
1:10:01 to have the police department that we
1:10:03 have at the level that we have it it's
1:10:04 going to continue to cost us more money
1:10:06 and I think vehicles are part of that
1:10:08 salaries benefits are part of that
1:10:10 adding officers likely over time are
1:10:13 part of that continuing to focus on our
1:10:15 commitment to Human Services and our
1:10:17 Behavioral Health Benefit is a part of
1:10:19 that all that taken together we'll be
1:10:22 spending more as a city to provide these
1:10:24 critical Services than we have in the
1:10:28 okay so so my intent with my question is
1:10:30 to understand the scope of what
1:10:32 subsequent stages of this will cost with
1:10:34 the initial stage and if I if I have
1:10:38 have correctly understood the comments I
1:10:42 believe that it's about 2.1 million
1:10:44 total
1:10:46 um so I my intent is to surface that as
1:10:48 the cost of the whole program because we
1:10:50 have uh initial phases and then no
1:10:53 information until now about the
1:10:54 subsequent phases in terms of the cost
1:10:56 thanks and again we're talking a solid a
1:11:00 pilot stage there's lots of various
1:11:01 factors to that I don't want to dispute
1:11:03 councilmember hunt your numbers because
1:11:05 they're you know given the premise
1:11:06 you're giving are completely accurate
1:11:08 but again we're still trying to sort
1:11:12 through well what makes sense moving
1:11:14 forward Chief Swan yes yeah that's a
1:11:17 whole thing more to add yes
1:11:19 might I have seen briefly the numbers as
1:11:23 far as maintenance on those cars I can
1:11:25 tell you from experience and prior
1:11:27 agencies that when people put into place
1:11:30 and implement or different agencies have
1:11:32 implemented the take-home vehicle
1:11:33 maintenance actually gets to be less and
1:11:36 the reason for that is often because the
1:11:38 cars are better taken care of because we
1:11:40 don't have someone cycling through an in
1:11:42 one vehicle 24 hours a day driving all
1:11:46 around and so that is a thing that again
1:11:49 being a pilot program we have to get
1:11:51 those numbers being this is the first
1:11:52 time we've had that but majority of the
1:11:55 other agencies are seeing a decrease
1:11:56 instead of an increase in those
1:11:57 maintenance so just a heads up for that
1:12:00 number those numbers as well
1:12:03 okay thank you but to be clear it's
1:12:05 maintenance on a lot more cars it's
1:12:07 twice as many cars so it's maintenance
1:12:09 less per vehicle but more maintenance
1:12:11 total for all the
1:12:13 subsequent cars
1:12:16 but thank you
1:12:18 okay and I think we have a question from
1:12:20 Deputy council president Hull and then
1:12:22 councilmember D Michelle
1:12:25 uh thank you yeah just piggybacking off
1:12:27 that so um since it is a pilot program
1:12:30 are we measuring those kinds of outcomes
1:12:31 Chief Schwann whether you know we're
1:12:34 having a positive impact on emergency
1:12:36 response time from Home Maintenance
1:12:38 costs
1:12:40 um and kind of its impact on Recruitment
1:12:42 and Retention is that something we're
1:12:43 able to do during the pilot phase just
1:12:45 to measure those outcomes to assure
1:12:47 after the pilot program you know if we
1:12:50 move forward we have good justification
1:12:51 for doing so
1:12:54 yes I believe the fleet manager Kelly
1:12:57 husband would have a better ability for
1:13:00 those numbers specifically but he is
1:13:02 managing how much difference in fuel how
1:13:06 much different in the actual maintenance
1:13:09 as far as those numbers go but as far as
1:13:11 response time and ability to get people
1:13:14 in and those retentions on people that
1:13:17 want those vehicles and how fast they're
1:13:18 able to respond we were able to get we
1:13:20 are keeping track of those numbers
1:13:21 during this time
1:13:24 thank you
1:13:27 councilmember D Michelle
1:13:30 um thank you I just wanted to follow up
1:13:32 on a comment from Chief Schwann and and
1:13:35 this goes to the questions that were
1:13:37 raised by council member hunt
1:13:40 um uh there comes the timeline uh
1:13:44 vehicle is no longer you know up you
1:13:47 know good enough to be in the fleet and
1:13:49 so we rotate them out and I would think
1:13:51 that that's kind of an ongoing process
1:13:54 and so
1:13:56 um are we saying that a vehicle when
1:13:59 it's rotated out uh
1:14:01 would be replaced or not replaced are we
1:14:04 talking about a full Fleet of I don't
1:14:07 know 22 or are we talking about once a
1:14:10 vehicle gets old uh and it and it
1:14:13 rotates out that we don't replace it so
1:14:17 um I'm not really understanding I think
1:14:20 um how how are we going to handle older
1:14:23 vehicles that we rotate out do we
1:14:26 replace those at the same time that
1:14:27 we're buying these new vehicles or does
1:14:30 it rotate out and it's gone and we at
1:14:33 some point we have stabilization number
1:14:37 excellent question yes there is uh there
1:14:40 will be a cycle there will be all the
1:14:42 five that we're supposed to be here in
1:14:43 2022 that we have not been successful in
1:14:46 getting
1:14:47 um those were replacement cars that we
1:14:49 have not gotten
1:14:50 um that's why they were not counted as
1:14:52 far as the 15 that we were looking for
1:14:55 um and looking to build that up because
1:14:57 those are replacement Vehicles
1:14:58 themselves so yes as Vehicles year out
1:15:01 now since they were individual people in
1:15:04 cars and they were as far as the pilot
1:15:07 program and taking them home then the
1:15:10 extension was it used to be a certain
1:15:12 mileage when they were being driven 24 7
1:15:14 by two different shifts for 12 hours so
1:15:17 basically 24 hours a day and so there
1:15:20 was a lower mileage that was being given
1:15:22 before we had to Outsource or
1:15:26 um purchase new ones as Replacements
1:15:29 those mileages now have been raised
1:15:32 because of when it's not being driven 24
1:15:34 7 we have a longer or there's longevity
1:15:37 more of the vehicle because it's not
1:15:38 being driven 24 7. and so there are more
1:15:41 a little bit more mileage as far as
1:15:43 highway miles as one would say when
1:15:46 you're looking at Vehicles versus in
1:15:47 town miles of driving to and from calls
1:15:50 so that changes the dynamic and it
1:15:53 extends the life of the vehicles as well
1:15:54 but yes there will be replacement for
1:15:56 the vehicles that would be purchased at
1:15:58 a certain point when the vehicle needs
1:16:00 to be replaced and is no longer usable
1:16:04 so just to follow up I I would imagine
1:16:07 that would also apply to maintenance
1:16:09 costs then not only the purchase cost of
1:16:12 the vehicle but we we see this in and
1:16:15 out sort of uh process happening as we
1:16:19 get into this program but at some point
1:16:21 we'll hit a stabilization level where we
1:16:25 have the number of cars we need and we
1:16:27 know what the maintenance costs for
1:16:28 those cars will be
1:16:31 correct just as it is right now with our
1:16:33 current Fleet as if they were being
1:16:35 driven versus now just people happen to
1:16:36 be taking them home and there's more of
1:16:38 them someone like you said right now as
1:16:41 it stands before the pilot program
1:16:43 someone would be in a vehicle and then
1:16:45 when they get off shift another person
1:16:47 jumps in the same vehicle and they just
1:16:48 keep being driven for 24 hours a day
1:16:50 whereas this would have the opportunity
1:16:52 it would be driven for 12. go to a
1:16:55 residence be there at the residence sit
1:16:58 there for 12 hours and then when the
1:16:59 officer comes in but then also when
1:17:01 they're off duty it's not being ran for
1:17:04 four days so that's where some of that
1:17:06 means is even less on the current
1:17:08 Vehicles because they're not being
1:17:09 driven 24 hours a day there is a time
1:17:12 period so it lessens the amount of wear
1:17:14 and tear on those Vehicles as well and
1:17:16 comparatively to what we have now so
1:17:18 there will be a stabilization eventually
1:17:20 when we have a number of what that is
1:17:22 just like now there's a cycle of at so
1:17:25 many miles on that vehicle is in town
1:17:28 that it's being driven 24 7. those
1:17:30 vehicles are now replaced on a schedule
1:17:32 that the fleet manager has put in
1:17:35 implemented so that's how you you knew
1:17:37 when it was brought to the attention
1:17:38 that those five replacements for 2022
1:17:41 would need to happen sometimes we're
1:17:43 able there's vehicles that we can nurse
1:17:45 out to okay maybe we can hold on to that
1:17:47 another year and put that in the next
1:17:48 year's Budget on because the vehicle is
1:17:50 doing okay or just over the weekend we
1:17:54 had you know another vehicle that was an
1:17:56 officer that was rammed so then
1:17:58 sometimes there's collisions and so that
1:18:00 puts takes a vehicle out of service so
1:18:03 that's why those pool vehicles are also
1:18:04 very important because we need to make
1:18:06 sure then we can get those fixed to get
1:18:08 them back in the fleet
1:18:12 thank you
1:18:14 okay so do we have any other questions
1:18:18 before
1:18:20 Deputy council president Hall
1:18:22 yeah we're still in like the
1:18:27 um is
1:18:28 um Monica Negril on the line maybe we
1:18:31 could cure up if she's available I
1:18:32 wanted to ask about the item from our
1:18:35 priorities list about 24 7 Behavioral
1:18:37 Health
1:18:38 um coordinator coverage
1:18:40 um that initiative is not covered in the
1:18:43 biennial budget but I did want to ask
1:18:46 the question of whether or not some of
1:18:48 the ongoing work that's included in the
1:18:51 description
1:18:52 um I.E exploring joint response models
1:18:56 if that is budgeted within your time
1:19:00 Monica you know if you have the time
1:19:02 over the next two years to begin those
1:19:05 talks and maybe you could just um kind
1:19:08 of share what your response to me via
1:19:10 email was I had asked Monica earlier
1:19:12 today
1:19:14 um what the description meant by
1:19:15 exploring joint response models if that
1:19:18 meant kind of responding jointly with
1:19:20 the police department or connecting up
1:19:22 with core connect that has a referral or
1:19:25 Healthcare referral program sorry that's
1:19:27 a hard word to say from firefighters so
1:19:29 does it mean responding with police
1:19:31 officers does it mean coordinating those
1:19:34 efforts with core connect so maybe you
1:19:35 could kind of walk us through that and
1:19:37 then talk talk to us about whether or
1:19:39 not your ongoing work
1:19:42 of that is included in the budget but
1:19:45 not necessarily the actual coverage of
1:19:47 Behavioral Health
1:19:48 coordinators thanks
1:19:51 thank you so much for that question good
1:19:53 evening council members this is Monica
1:19:54 negreline human services so yes you're
1:19:57 exactly right and correct part of my
1:20:01 time and in addition I know just times
1:20:03 and volunteering other leaders in the
1:20:05 city for the remainder of this year but
1:20:08 also for a good portion of next year
1:20:10 would be to continue to explore options
1:20:13 to leverage resources
1:20:15 and and really explore more
1:20:18 opportunities to increase our
1:20:20 relationship and response with
1:20:23 um police department and with the core
1:20:26 connect program at IFA but also as we
1:20:29 started our collaboration with the court
1:20:31 would love to expand on that in jail we
1:20:34 believe that there are opportunities for
1:20:36 us to leverage resources and to look
1:20:38 into how we can better work together
1:20:41 collaborate and and find the best
1:20:43 options for our community being a
1:20:45 smaller entity
1:20:48 so that's part of that it's also for us
1:20:51 to look I think the the biggest the big
1:20:53 larger Vision it's really to also see
1:20:55 how we can incorporate data and find
1:20:58 better ways to track data
1:21:01 um as a city who is very focused on on
1:21:03 data we would love to do so very much as
1:21:06 you know we also have quite a large pool
1:21:08 of non-profit organizations that we
1:21:10 refer people when we work whether we
1:21:12 work in the behavioral health program or
1:21:14 our police officers or Court we refer
1:21:18 people to a lot of non-profit providers
1:21:20 we would love to incorporate data from
1:21:22 them as well and really try to to have a
1:21:26 more robust
1:21:28 way to to track where clients go and
1:21:31 services that they receive
1:21:34 so more work on that exploring that uh
1:21:37 it's gonna be next year and it is not
1:21:40 included as a separate budget item and
1:21:43 yes we did not include any new requests
1:21:45 for Behavioral Health coordinators as we
1:21:48 like we need to do a little bit more
1:21:50 work to to explore exactly what the
1:21:52 needs are in the community with the
1:21:54 resources that we have and see how we
1:21:56 can best
1:21:57 at first the existing resources before
1:21:59 making additional requests
1:22:03 does that help answer and cover what we
1:22:06 discussed via email or are there any
1:22:08 further questions yeah I did thank you
1:22:11 very much
1:22:13 it's in just a to clarify then you're
1:22:16 seeing some of this more investigatory
1:22:19 and data work
1:22:20 as work that needs to happen before we
1:22:24 Implement some sort of
1:22:27 response model
1:22:29 uh with behavioral with a behavioral
1:22:31 health element or a crisis response
1:22:33 element
1:22:36 I guess the question I'm asking is do
1:22:37 you think we're you know moving as
1:22:39 quickly as we can based on staff
1:22:41 limitations and every and resource
1:22:43 limitations
1:22:44 in that field and
1:22:47 because I I was talking with another
1:22:48 council member earlier today it does
1:22:50 seem like you know this
1:22:53 um and thank you for councilmember D
1:22:54 Michelle for putting this on the uh
1:22:56 priorities list in the first place but
1:22:58 um this was you know a commitment that
1:23:01 we made to the community as part of the
1:23:03 Issaquah police accountability police
1:23:04 accountability equity and Human Services
1:23:07 action plan so I just want to make sure
1:23:08 that we are honoring that commitment and
1:23:11 I'm positive there are other council
1:23:12 members up here who feel the same way so
1:23:15 um yeah anyways I feel like I always
1:23:17 answer my own question and then just let
1:23:19 you comment on it but would you do you
1:23:21 believe that we're moving at the pace
1:23:23 that we need to be to live up to that
1:23:25 commitment to the community
1:23:27 [Music]
1:23:29 I believe we are moving at our own pace
1:23:31 and we are at where we need to be
1:23:33 perhaps as a community I think
1:23:36 um each Community it's very very
1:23:38 different we are exploring ways to
1:23:41 respond with the police this model
1:23:42 started like we currently have two
1:23:44 full-time staff Behavioral Health
1:23:46 coordinators and that's initially we're
1:23:48 even just looking back at where we
1:23:51 started we first started with one
1:23:52 Behavioral Health coordinator then as we
1:23:55 started and piloted and tried and kind
1:23:57 of like tried on error we learned that
1:23:59 we could leverage Resources with
1:24:00 homeless Outreach so we combine those
1:24:02 programs even with our work with the
1:24:05 police department initially we started
1:24:07 as a referral model we are still in
1:24:10 highly a referral model meaning that
1:24:12 police officers refer cases to us as
1:24:15 they they come across cases however
1:24:18 there are quite a few cases and more and
1:24:20 more we see a response model naturally
1:24:23 growing from that as police officers
1:24:25 learn to to work with us and we learn
1:24:28 more about their programs more and more
1:24:31 um often we see that response coming
1:24:34 naturally so I think it is fair to say
1:24:38 that we are kind of like working at the
1:24:41 right pace and growing naturally at this
1:24:44 and from that I think a natural Next
1:24:46 Step before
1:24:48 hiring more people would be to continue
1:24:50 to explore with core connect
1:24:52 for example recently we just sat down
1:24:55 and looked at how many duplicates we
1:24:57 have if we have so just doing some
1:24:59 research data and looking at how we can
1:25:01 naturally collaborate
1:25:03 um I think that that's where we are
1:25:04 right now and um so yes so yeah I think
1:25:08 I think for where Issaquah is I think we
1:25:12 are moving at the the pace that we can
1:25:14 with the resources that we have and
1:25:17 um it's it's growing naturally and I
1:25:19 think that that makes the most sense
1:25:23 thank you
1:25:25 thank you okay I appreciate that
1:25:28 conversation around the difference
1:25:30 between a response model and
1:25:33 um you know what the emergent needs
1:25:36 might be so good okay
1:25:40 I am not seeing any other questions so I
1:25:44 think at this point we are finally to
1:25:47 public comment and so we'll see if we
1:25:51 have any public comment either online or
1:25:53 in person on this item and then we'll be
1:25:57 able to go into conversation and
1:25:59 deliberation so clerk do we have anybody
1:26:01 who's indicated a desire to speak
1:26:06 no one at this point so if there's
1:26:09 someone in the room who'd like to speak
1:26:11 fantastic and you can come on up and
1:26:14 then we do continue to have about a half
1:26:16 dozen members of the public virtually so
1:26:18 if any of you would like to make
1:26:19 comments on the proposed budget please
1:26:21 raise your virtual hand or send me the
1:26:25 host a chat or press star 3 on your
1:26:27 phone
1:26:30 hi again
1:26:32 Ann Fletcher
1:26:34 I'm back again and I just had one quick
1:26:37 comment and that is when you're talking
1:26:41 about
1:26:42 using the sustainability fund and how
1:26:45 you make the selections for that how you
1:26:48 decide that
1:26:50 it would be helpful to understand some
1:26:54 of the criteria that you're using and
1:26:57 um uh and if that could come with the
1:27:00 recommendation or with your in your
1:27:02 discussion maybe it will come up in your
1:27:04 discussion I don't know uh but um and
1:27:07 and uh and I would like to suggest a
1:27:11 criteria that I have and I don't know if
1:27:14 you might also have it but and that is
1:27:18 um what is the predicted or potential
1:27:21 reduction in carbon emissions
1:27:25 for this action
1:27:28 because that's the bottom line in our
1:27:30 goals is reducing our carbon emissions
1:27:33 in our plan we have some other things
1:27:35 that we do to try to get there
1:27:37 and it's a pretty stiff goal we have and
1:27:41 so I'm always going back to that and
1:27:42 thinking
1:27:44 which which one of these things is going
1:27:46 to have the best effect with the
1:27:49 resources that we have
1:27:51 so I just like to put that out there for
1:27:53 thank you
1:27:56 thank you Anne and Clark do we have
1:27:59 anybody who has raised hand no oh okay
1:28:04 so I think we're at this point where we
1:28:07 can start to get into some budget
1:28:10 deliberations so
1:28:13 I can open it up we can talk all we want
1:28:16 and go through that but I was also
1:28:19 thinking that maybe taking a look at the
1:28:22 priority One items as kind of a filter
1:28:26 for first set of conversations either
1:28:29 starting with the stuff that's in the
1:28:32 memo or the crosswalk for operating and
1:28:35 capital or we can go basically straight
1:28:38 through the presentation and kind of use
1:28:41 those as topical areas does anybody have
1:28:44 any preferences on how we Orient this
1:28:47 conversation
1:28:51 seeing none let's go back through that
1:28:55 PowerPoint Okay so so
1:28:58 [Music]
1:29:00 um scroll back up
1:29:09 operating budget priority level one
1:29:11 items so Title 18 next steps do we have
1:29:15 any thoughts on this
1:29:18 okay council member hunt
1:29:21 thank you
1:29:22 um two thoughts and I can be brief on
1:29:25 this the first is
1:29:28 um I think we
1:29:31 um the the L clip item which is sixty
1:29:33 thousand dollar study that item hasn't
1:29:35 gone through the same process as the
1:29:36 other items on that list and so I think
1:29:39 it needs to be treated differently
1:29:41 um it wasn't prioritized by the Planning
1:29:43 Development environment committee it
1:29:45 didn't come up in Council conversations
1:29:46 and also there was this big list of
1:29:49 whiteboarded items that have gone
1:29:51 through the PPC and that have been
1:29:53 prioritized and that have been vetted in
1:29:56 community conversations and that have
1:29:58 have risen to the top of importance and
1:30:00 this was not one of those it sort of
1:30:03 came from a recent conversation but
1:30:06 wasn't just has gone through a different
1:30:09 process so I just wanted to flag that um
1:30:12 there are going to be some more
1:30:13 conversations but that one
1:30:16 um you know depending on where the
1:30:17 conversation goes with with Council over
1:30:19 the next months I don't know that that
1:30:22 would be a priority so just wanted to
1:30:24 flag that because it seems a little
1:30:25 different than the others the other
1:30:27 thing is on the parking
1:30:29 um I do think that it's important
1:30:34 um to make sure that the scope is
1:30:36 including not just the missing middle
1:30:37 but I think the other the other goal for
1:30:40 that is to make the more pedestrian
1:30:43 friendly that's in our Master Mobility
1:30:45 plan and and more friendly for a
1:30:48 multimodal that's been in many of our
1:30:50 plans and so having big parking lots you
1:30:52 know is we we have visions in the master
1:30:56 Mobility plan for for looking at that
1:30:58 and looking at how we could become a
1:31:00 more pedestrian friendly area so those
1:31:03 would be goals and I don't think that I
1:31:07 think that expanding Beyond
1:31:09 Central Issaquah would be best because
1:31:12 we've looked across many different
1:31:14 aspects of Title 18 and we are revising
1:31:17 the parking code across the city and I
1:31:20 think looking at that across the city
1:31:22 would be the more holistic approach with
1:31:25 everything with Title 18 we've tried to
1:31:27 do a city-wide approach when possible
1:31:28 because we want to
1:31:31 um improve the code in as holistic and
1:31:34 straightforward way as possible so that
1:31:37 would be my thought on that item I think
1:31:39 it we could rescope it and see if if it
1:31:43 what the cost would be if it were to
1:31:45 cover additional concerns as outlined to
1:31:48 the master Mobility plan for example
1:31:52 yeah toward that idea City administrator
1:31:55 or someone is there
1:31:57 I mean these are items where we kind of
1:32:01 a conversation in the PD committee and
1:32:05 with the community about what the
1:32:07 priorities are as far as which policy
1:32:10 areas but we're now we're trying to put
1:32:12 it to a budget item so if we're looking
1:32:15 at this and we're saying hey that line
1:32:16 item doesn't meet the expectations that
1:32:19 was set out by the committee what do we
1:32:23 need to do as far as budget and any
1:32:27 shifts there
1:32:28 uh council president uh what we've tried
1:32:31 to do with the title 18 was to try to
1:32:33 come up with a couple different measures
1:32:35 one was what we think we can do in the
1:32:38 midst of still finishing Title 18 in the
1:32:40 comp plan Amendment so some of this is
1:32:42 sizing uh the other part is just a
1:32:44 company the sizing with budget so all of
1:32:47 these projects are not going to go
1:32:50 forward until there's additional
1:32:51 conversation with the council for
1:32:53 scoping but we wanted to at least have
1:32:55 resources available to move forward
1:32:57 rather than come back to you at some
1:32:59 later point and ask for those resources
1:33:01 so that's where the list came from it
1:33:03 was informed by the discussions as
1:33:05 you've described at the council
1:33:07 committee and at the planning policy
1:33:09 committee director dollywell went back
1:33:12 through those discussions and then she
1:33:13 put forward those recommendations to the
1:33:15 mayor and that's how it got included in
1:33:17 the budget we're again with all the
1:33:19 discussions this evening council
1:33:21 president the mayor will come back at
1:33:25 your meeting next week with any
1:33:26 adjustments to the budgets based on
1:33:27 these discussions so if there's a desire
1:33:30 to eliminate or change the the buckets
1:33:34 for the title 18 projects you know we'll
1:33:37 come back with a reaction to that those
1:33:40 comments next week
1:33:43 okay so what you're saying is it's
1:33:45 enough for us to say that doesn't meet
1:33:48 the expectations and we'd like to see an
1:33:51 adjustment and you guys will then take
1:33:54 that and shift any money around that's
1:33:57 needed to meet those expectations we'll
1:34:00 we'll go back to the mayor over the
1:34:01 horse in the next several days and share
1:34:03 the results of these conversations and
1:34:05 then based on her judgment we'll come
1:34:07 back next Monday with any adjustments to
1:34:09 the budget we may come back and say yes
1:34:11 we agree and here we're proposing to
1:34:13 ship money or we'll say it stands as
1:34:15 recommended and then the council will
1:34:17 have to decide if you want to make any
1:34:18 adjustments from there I think the goal
1:34:20 tonight is to try to come to as much
1:34:22 consensus as possible so we could come
1:34:24 back on the 17th and and say
1:34:27 here we are and hopefully have a budget
1:34:29 that the council agrees to
1:34:33 so council members I think what I'm
1:34:36 going to try and use a thumbs up thumbs
1:34:38 down kind of concept so what I'm hearing
1:34:41 are two different potential areas that
1:34:45 we need to figure out if we support one
1:34:48 is kind of expanding or you know scoping
1:34:53 the parking
1:34:56 portion to the whole city not just the
1:34:59 central Issaquah and the second is do we
1:35:04 support I guess
1:35:06 moving the l-clip concept to something
1:35:11 else because that wasn't in the title 18
1:35:13 future updates from the
1:35:16 Planning Development and environment
1:35:18 committee so for the first one a thumbs
1:35:21 up means you support expanding it to the
1:35:25 full City
1:35:26 so Barb you're yup you're coming in uh
1:35:30 yep go ahead okay I have a clarifying
1:35:32 question so what I think would be
1:35:34 helpful is getting information about
1:35:38 what that scope looks like because it's
1:35:39 really hard to thumbs up something when
1:35:41 you don't know and even approximate
1:35:43 dollar amount of what you're so I thumbs
1:35:46 up like I would thumbs up the concept
1:35:47 but we do what I would say is are we
1:35:51 interested in getting that information
1:35:52 back about the cost and so that we can
1:35:55 consider
1:35:57 doing that because I think that's that's
1:35:58 the important step here is getting that
1:36:00 information so yeah to make a decision
1:36:01 if it if it that yeah we're not
1:36:04 necessarily so what is the cost and then
1:36:06 we have both the benefit and the cost
1:36:08 for the for the discussion you're
1:36:10 absolutely right in these cases we
1:36:12 aren't saying whether we support adding
1:36:15 you know a million dollars into the
1:36:17 budget or whatever it is but really
1:36:20 um getting the information from the
1:36:23 administration
1:36:25 yep so I'm a little confused so are you
1:36:28 looking at them before the budget will
1:36:29 be approved you want a more specific
1:36:31 scope of work because if that's the case
1:36:33 we may just pull the whole thing out
1:36:36 because well we're not going to be able
1:36:38 to provide you more detailed level
1:36:40 scopes of work and minis turned her her
1:36:43 camera on so maybe she can provide that
1:36:45 and and perhaps this was overly
1:36:48 ambitious for the budget we maybe we
1:36:51 need to wait until Title 18 is done and
1:36:53 then come back to the council with these
1:36:55 projects so you can have that discussion
1:36:57 and then at that point I'll look for
1:37:00 um the dollars that are necessary which
1:37:02 we certainly can do
1:37:04 we're just trying the council has said
1:37:06 numerous times you want to keep the
1:37:08 process moving you don't want Title 18
1:37:10 to conclude and then not be able to pick
1:37:12 these up but if we're moving too fast
1:37:14 we can remove all these from the budget
1:37:17 and then come back to you sometime
1:37:19 spring summer
1:37:20 time frame once Title 18 is done we'll
1:37:23 have a better sense where we are with
1:37:24 the comp plan and other priorities and
1:37:27 then we can fold this in at that point
1:37:29 because we're not going to be able to
1:37:31 come back and many please correct me if
1:37:33 I'm wrong with much more detail on the
1:37:35 next week on some of these initiatives
1:37:39 we just tried to give you some dollar
1:37:40 around because we wanted to keep the
1:37:41 process moving because you said you did
1:37:44 not want things to stall out after Title
1:37:46 18 was done but but if this is moving
1:37:48 too fast then that's fine too and we can
1:37:51 make adjustments
1:37:53 director dollywall
1:37:56 uh yeah
1:37:57 um thanks Wally and you know good
1:38:00 questions
1:38:01 um yeah I I think we
1:38:03 we we're not able to give you an exact
1:38:05 scope of work by next week I think it'll
1:38:08 need to be worked out in terms of what
1:38:10 that really makes sense but at a higher
1:38:12 level if all you're asking is you know
1:38:16 look at parking minimums and maximums
1:38:18 for different types of uses throughout
1:38:21 the city that's one thing
1:38:23 but I think where this was focused on
1:38:26 more was
1:38:27 really doing a more in-depth analysis of
1:38:30 taking a look at existing uses and and
1:38:34 coming up with the numbers and you know
1:38:35 so informing it based on actual what
1:38:39 what's happening how trans is going to
1:38:41 impact the parking and all that and
1:38:43 that's why I think the focus was uh on
1:38:46 Central
1:38:48 but if you're really looking for just a
1:38:50 parking table that establishes what's
1:38:53 the minimum parking use and what's the
1:38:55 maximum parking use that's one thing
1:38:57 but if it is more taking data doing
1:39:01 analysis of what's happening on the
1:39:03 ground where you know what are the trips
1:39:05 in a particular neighborhood and all
1:39:07 that kind of stuff that can easily add
1:39:09 up to a lot of dollars very quickly so
1:39:12 we'll need to we'll need more time to
1:39:14 give you an accurate number on on
1:39:16 studies like that if you're looking for
1:39:19 [Music]
1:39:22 councilmember marks
1:39:25 so uh uh I'm for pulling this right now
1:39:29 because I don't think we have consensus
1:39:33 on where we want to go with parking in
1:39:36 uh Issaquah I think that the last time
1:39:39 we did a major parking analysis uh in
1:39:42 Old Town it was because some council
1:39:45 members wanted to see more parking and
1:39:47 the analysis came back and said we don't
1:39:49 need more parking and uh so I I doubt
1:39:55 the seven of us are on the same page as
1:39:57 to even the direction that we want to
1:39:59 pull this sled in regards to parking and
1:40:01 so to do an analysis before
1:40:06 I'm not sure what the analysis would
1:40:08 cover and if it would be pulling in a
1:40:10 direction that even the majority of the
1:40:13 council would be interested in seeing so
1:40:15 I I just I think it's I think it's
1:40:17 premature in a and a potentially
1:40:20 sensitive topic and I think it's also a
1:40:21 topic that
1:40:23 um if we really believe in transparency
1:40:24 I think we want to go talk to the
1:40:26 community how they feel about parking in
1:40:28 in the city thanks
1:40:30 yeah so my comments back on that is I
1:40:33 believe my understanding of the future
1:40:36 updates idea was these are potentially
1:40:40 controversial and big items that we
1:40:43 didn't get it to in Title 18 that need
1:40:46 to go back to the community and so the
1:40:49 ask from pde was let's take the time and
1:40:54 handle these correctly and bring them to
1:40:56 the community have a good conversation
1:40:58 on what our goals are for parking
1:41:02 minimums and maximums and requirements
1:41:05 within the city whether we're getting
1:41:07 what we were
1:41:10 interested as far as development and
1:41:13 whether our current parking requirements
1:41:15 are holding us back and costing too much
1:41:18 that we're not getting missing middle
1:41:19 that we're not getting the multimodal
1:41:22 connections so I don't think we need to
1:41:28 money back from this concept I just want
1:41:32 to make sure that if we're doing this
1:41:35 which the majority of the council has
1:41:38 said we're interested in doing Title 18
1:41:40 future updates that that we're not
1:41:44 scoping it smaller than I think the
1:41:46 intention was
1:41:48 a deputy council president Hall yeah
1:41:50 your last point I think um really
1:41:52 brought it home so you know I I think
1:41:54 the intent for Council when we first had
1:41:55 this conversation was all these all
1:41:57 these things are huge meaty topics right
1:42:00 many and there's going to be a lot of
1:42:01 community engagement and a lot of work
1:42:03 with the community and a lot of
1:42:04 understanding what is creating
1:42:06 successful outcomes when it comes to
1:42:08 missing middle housing or parking
1:42:09 regulations in other communities so this
1:42:12 is just the start of all this work so I
1:42:14 think the only thing that we've done
1:42:15 here is just kind of narrow the scope a
1:42:17 little bit to Central Issaquah and if we
1:42:19 change that to to all of Issaquah
1:42:21 parking and just all know that this is
1:42:23 the very beginning of that process more
1:42:26 Council conversations will inform what
1:42:28 that will look like what next steps will
1:42:30 look like the current funding for that
1:42:33 is probably fine because as those
1:42:36 conversations develop it will inform
1:42:37 future budget amendments or the next
1:42:39 biennial budget upon on what we do next
1:42:42 so I'm not too concerned about this I
1:42:44 just think we need to kind of take that
1:42:46 narrow Vision away
1:42:49 but I would support keeping the funding
1:42:51 and the budget things
1:42:52 uh council member Ray
1:42:55 thank you I may have a slightly
1:42:56 different perspective on this I I
1:43:00 think we're getting a little bit balled
1:43:01 up in the specifics and what what I'm
1:43:03 reading this to me is uh CPD says with
1:43:06 the budget that we have proposed we can
1:43:09 do these four bullets and
1:43:12 um and so if um
1:43:15 and I don't know that taking one of them
1:43:17 off changes their budget uh in any
1:43:19 material way either because I think it's
1:43:21 most their budget is going to be staffed
1:43:23 in Consulting time anyway so I I kind of
1:43:26 got to tell you I like it I think it
1:43:27 moves the needle on the things that we
1:43:29 think are important like missing metal
1:43:30 and stream buffer that the committee
1:43:32 said were important but there's some
1:43:34 other things here like parking it's like
1:43:35 the deputy president just said it moves
1:43:38 us forward on that and then I think with
1:43:40 the transfer development rights and the
1:43:42 L clip program that's just something we
1:43:45 need to to do and if they've got
1:43:46 capacity to do it I say let's do it so I
1:43:49 I'm I'm kind of all on board with that
1:43:56 okay so uh councilmember Joe
1:44:02 thank you
1:44:05 I'm a little bit in favor of keeping the
1:44:07 central Issaquah parking analysis
1:44:09 focused on the central Issaquah area and
1:44:12 here's why
1:44:13 um if we want to marry it to exploring
1:44:16 missing middle housing we're not going
1:44:18 to be putting any missing middle housing
1:44:19 on squawk we're not going to putting any
1:44:22 missing middle housing in Talus right
1:44:25 basically in so the parking that we're
1:44:28 trying to look at from my understanding
1:44:31 of is is can we put it in places uh can
1:44:35 we put the missing middle housing in
1:44:37 places like the central Isla area and we
1:44:41 should have a parking analysis of that
1:44:42 area to determine whether we can reduce
1:44:44 the requirements for that so the missing
1:44:46 middle could actually come in and and be
1:44:49 viable
1:44:51 um so I I really think the centralist
1:44:53 parking analysis marries up with the
1:44:56 exploration of missing middle housing to
1:44:59 align with the code so I'm more in favor
1:45:01 of keeping it limited to an area so we
1:45:04 can really focus on it and then see if
1:45:08 through this first analysis if it makes
1:45:11 sense for us to take it Citywide because
1:45:15 we'll have some experience looking at
1:45:17 parking and how we examine it the
1:45:19 information we get back and then rather
1:45:21 than taking the whole city at once we
1:45:23 take one area at once take a look at it
1:45:25 figure out if it's really something that
1:45:28 we want to do city-wide whether there's
1:45:30 a benefit to us whether it really
1:45:32 marries up with missing mental housing
1:45:34 or other housing goals we might have
1:45:36 along the way and and take a look at the
1:45:38 other housing goal that we might want to
1:45:39 take at take a look at in the future is
1:45:42 parking requirements for adus and Dad
1:45:45 use so accessory dwelling units and
1:45:48 detached accessory dwelling units those
1:45:50 who typically go in the neighborhoods
1:45:51 those would go on you know the old town
1:45:54 area that might have a bigger lot where
1:45:56 you can put an Adu in so I think that
1:45:59 keeping it focused on Central Issaquah
1:46:02 right now makes sense so we can see if
1:46:05 it works what information we get from it
1:46:07 and how what marries up with the missing
1:46:09 middle housing goal under the proposed
1:46:11 budget
1:46:15 a little bit off we got to keep this to
1:46:18 budget so I'm going to go back to the
1:46:20 administration what what do you need
1:46:23 from us in order to set this for a
1:46:27 budget amount
1:46:30 well we feel comfortable with what we
1:46:32 have in the budget which is a pot of
1:46:35 money that approximates what we think
1:46:37 the work we can do moving forward next
1:46:39 year given other uh things that are on
1:46:42 the plates of our planning staff if the
1:46:44 council agrees with that we will leave
1:46:47 the dollars in the budget we will come
1:46:49 back to the council through the council
1:46:51 committees to talk about each of these
1:46:53 projects we will work on scope at that
1:46:54 point I guess if we run out of money
1:46:56 we'll come back and ask for some more
1:46:58 but again as I mentioned earlier the
1:47:01 reason this is in the budget one because
1:47:02 the council said at your retreat in July
1:47:04 this was important in order to keep the
1:47:07 land use planning revision process
1:47:09 moving forward after title 18. so that
1:47:11 was the entire motivation here we looked
1:47:13 through the list uh Miss dollywall went
1:47:16 through and again Wade what was on the
1:47:18 list versus the time that we have and
1:47:21 try to put a dollar amount to it that's
1:47:22 all we've done here we've not done
1:47:24 additional scope we've not had
1:47:26 additional conversations with the
1:47:27 council with the community this is just
1:47:30 in response bonds to your basic message
1:47:32 was We Can't Stop with Title 18 we have
1:47:35 to be ready to tee up the next bit of
1:47:37 work so part of that is cash to help pay
1:47:41 Consultants to help us with that
1:47:44 okay does anybody feel like we need to
1:47:47 make modifications or requests
1:47:51 more dollar amounts or whatever
1:47:53 councilmember hunt
1:47:55 well I I will say I agreed with Council
1:48:00 Deputy president Hall's comments about
1:48:04 sort of having if we change the scope
1:48:07 having this be for the same amount of
1:48:09 money but I do want to point out that at
1:48:12 the committee level we had a very what I
1:48:15 would call a pretty light touch on the
1:48:17 parking because specific Citywide looked
1:48:19 at the parking code and so in the
1:48:21 revised Title 18 we specifically had a
1:48:23 conversation about how
1:48:25 any any more big changes would be from
1:48:30 this subsequent study and so the changes
1:48:33 that are made in Title 18 were in my
1:48:35 opinion when we had that conversation we
1:48:38 were planning on having that and those
1:48:40 changes were made Citywide which is why
1:48:41 I think to be parallel we should look at
1:48:45 that Citywide but um I think for in
1:48:48 terms of the dollar amounts if this is
1:48:49 what's sort of the scope for a parking
1:48:52 assessment as a continuation of Title 18
1:48:54 and since we don't have any other
1:48:57 information about what to put in the
1:48:58 budget then I'm fine with keeping it in
1:49:00 but I would be supportive keeping it in
1:49:01 and I would be supportive in terms of
1:49:02 the policy discussion to be Citywide
1:49:07 okay so continuing down this item on the
1:49:12 presentation agenda does anybody have
1:49:15 any discussion points deliberation on
1:49:18 data analytics Urban Forest additional
1:49:22 housing resources
1:49:27 I'm not seeing anybody here nothing from
1:49:30 council member D Michelle okay so
1:49:34 looking at the capital budget items
1:49:36 we've got green necklace and tr028 the
1:49:40 Northwest Sammamish Road non-motorized
1:49:42 improvements does anybody have any
1:49:45 comments adjustments suggestions they
1:49:48 want to bring up here
1:49:50 uh council member marks
1:49:53 so I I am looking forward to seeing next
1:49:56 week a summary of progress made so far
1:50:00 on tro28 and uh you know are we
1:50:04 projected to hit the million that we
1:50:06 were budgeted for in 2022 which would
1:50:09 make me feel better about the 700 that
1:50:11 we're talking about for 2023. thanks
1:50:15 okay uh councilmember hunt thank you
1:50:19 um I I support those comments on tier
1:50:21 028 and thank you for bringing that to
1:50:23 our attention about the previous funding
1:50:26 my comments are on the green necklace
1:50:29 though the green necklace is all about
1:50:31 Connections in the Parks plan it talks
1:50:33 about the green necklace being all about
1:50:35 intuitive connections and when we when
1:50:39 we talked about this at The Retreat I
1:50:42 think we all recognize the importance
1:50:44 that this would have for our community
1:50:46 that this would allow connections
1:50:48 between people and nature and
1:50:50 connections between the parks of course
1:50:52 but also connections between the
1:50:53 non-motorized corridors within the city
1:50:55 which helps us achieve our other goals
1:50:57 and so the green necklace says this as
1:51:00 this connects series of connections
1:51:03 between Parks is a really beautiful idea
1:51:05 that we have on paper but I can say from
1:51:09 first-hand experience that those
1:51:11 intuitive connections are not
1:51:14 on the ground yet and I think we've had
1:51:17 a series of
1:51:20 we've had this approach that's
1:51:22 represented in the current proposed
1:51:24 budget where we've put aside money and
1:51:26 then when we have the opportunity to
1:51:29 have an acquisition we have acquired it
1:51:31 and I think that has has gone well but I
1:51:34 think at this point when our city is
1:51:35 growing so fast and development is is
1:51:39 um is happening so fast the costs of
1:51:41 land is only seemingly ever increasing
1:51:44 and I worry that we won't have those
1:51:47 opportunities to make these connections
1:51:49 much longer or if we do it will be at a
1:51:52 much higher cost than if we were to be
1:51:53 more proactive so between the retreat
1:51:57 and when
1:51:58 um and and today I actually attempted to
1:52:01 walk the entire Creek corridor from
1:52:04 squawk Valley Park to
1:52:06 um to where the creek goes into Lake
1:52:10 Sammamish and I did walk it I initially
1:52:13 thought I'm going to walk it in one day
1:52:14 so I set out and then I was like no I'm
1:52:17 gonna break it out into a couple a
1:52:18 couple days
1:52:19 um there is a self-guided tour that the
1:52:22 parks put together several years ago and
1:52:24 so I I attempted to follow the creek
1:52:26 Corridor through the squawk Valley reach
1:52:28 and then through the Old Town reach and
1:52:30 then the Pickering reach and then for
1:52:32 extra bonus I then walked through the
1:52:35 state park to where it goes into Lake
1:52:36 Sammamish and my observations from this
1:52:40 were that
1:52:41 um there were parts that were beautiful
1:52:43 and Serene and this was in August and it
1:52:48 um it was a time when it was hot out so
1:52:50 lots of people were enjoying the creek
1:52:52 and picnicking and riding bikes and
1:52:55 walking dogs and there were lots of
1:52:57 people in the parks there were
1:52:58 oftentimes very few people in the
1:53:01 connections and often the connections
1:53:04 were very unclear and actually since I
1:53:06 walked three reaches I walked the whole
1:53:09 thing twice and I tried to find better
1:53:11 paths on the way back and it was a
1:53:14 challenge and if we're talking about
1:53:16 intuitive connections we're really not
1:53:18 there right now sometimes you feel like
1:53:21 you're not sure
1:53:22 if you're meant to be in in that place
1:53:25 if it's far away from the creek you're
1:53:27 not sure how far you are from the creek
1:53:29 and if you're if you're meant to connect
1:53:32 through uh more like a neighborhood
1:53:34 that's often pretty unclear
1:53:37 um so if we want intuitive connections
1:53:39 if we want it to be welcoming if we want
1:53:40 it to really connect our beautiful parks
1:53:43 where people absolutely enjoy which is
1:53:45 so important to our quality of life I
1:53:47 think we need to
1:53:48 take a different approach so what I
1:53:52 would urge us to consider is getting
1:53:55 that information from the administration
1:53:57 about what would it take to have this
1:53:58 different approach what would it take to
1:54:01 change our strategy and to actually
1:54:03 realize these connections that we need
1:54:07 and then the Creek Quarter is just the
1:54:09 spine of the necklace to mix analogies
1:54:11 but I think that's what we've gone with
1:54:13 in the Parks plan but there are many
1:54:15 other connections that need to be made
1:54:16 too so I really think
1:54:18 um I think we have huge potential I
1:54:20 think it's could be hugely beneficial
1:54:22 and could really make our whole park
1:54:25 system saying we're investing millions
1:54:27 of dollars in our Park system it's so
1:54:29 important to our community and I would
1:54:32 really like to see us get information
1:54:34 from the administration about what it
1:54:36 would take
1:54:37 to be more proactive and to for this
1:54:41 Council to actually see these
1:54:42 connections come off the page and into
1:54:45 real life so that would be my ask and um
1:54:48 and I think it takes more proactive and
1:54:51 it takes a change in strategy which will
1:54:53 not be pixie dust as as director Watling
1:54:56 said it will be resources so my ask
1:54:58 would be that we get that information
1:55:04 anybody else have any comments thoughts
1:55:06 agreement
1:55:09 Deputy council president Hall I if we're
1:55:12 able to get that information by our next
1:55:14 touch I would love I think that
1:55:17 information would be really important
1:55:18 for us as we consider Parks Investments
1:55:21 over the next two years so I guess my
1:55:23 question is does the admission
1:55:25 Administration think it's doable to put
1:55:27 together some sort of briefing like that
1:55:30 by Monday is it Monday yeah Monday uh
1:55:33 Deputy council president members of the
1:55:35 council uh I think you got kind of the
1:55:37 briefing tonight and that in order to do
1:55:40 what council member hunt so eloquently
1:55:44 described it's going to take additional
1:55:45 resources and so I think it'd be useful
1:55:48 for the administration just to get
1:55:49 feedback from the council we think it's
1:55:52 probably one additional position
1:55:54 um and so you know the cost associated
1:55:56 with that would be an add to the budget
1:55:59 if that's something the council is
1:56:01 generally agreeable to I think the
1:56:02 administration is happy to come back
1:56:04 with a proposal
1:56:05 um you know we're not looking to cut
1:56:07 anything so we would have to look at uh
1:56:09 our current property projections and see
1:56:11 if we could sustain that moving forward
1:56:13 so I think council president you know I
1:56:16 don't know if you want to do thumbs up
1:56:17 or thumbs down or just ask for a general
1:56:20 comment uh but this would be an ad uh
1:56:23 and the administration would look to not
1:56:24 cut something so if there's General
1:56:28 support among the council I'm sure mayor
1:56:29 Paulie will instruct her staff to figure
1:56:33 out a way to make it happen
1:56:37 I guess my question would be how does
1:56:39 that relate to the urban Forest
1:56:42 supervisor and that program would it be
1:56:46 at all related or is it just a Parks
1:56:49 planner because you know many of those
1:56:53 open space
1:56:54 um as well well I mean I I don't think
1:56:57 it would be a part planner I mean I I
1:56:58 think in talking with director Watling
1:57:01 and he's still here uh and can and speak
1:57:04 for himself as well
1:57:05 um we're going to need a different kind
1:57:07 of person we need someone who has skills
1:57:09 and abilities to make connections with
1:57:11 property owners and really to make deals
1:57:13 happen I mean when deals have a
1:57:15 presented themselves to the city
1:57:18 um you know certainly we have the
1:57:19 resources to you know make sure the
1:57:21 funding's available draft the
1:57:23 appropriate agreements uh but I think in
1:57:25 talking with councilmember hunt over the
1:57:27 last while and she's looking for someone
1:57:30 to make things happen and so I don't
1:57:32 think that that's just a park planner
1:57:34 that's that's another level of staff
1:57:37 member and so um
1:57:40 we would not be looking at adding just
1:57:42 another Park planner we have one
1:57:44 additional Park planner in the budget so
1:57:45 certainly that person will be part of
1:57:47 that uh the entire uh parks department
1:57:50 is part of the same team so uh the folks
1:57:53 that the urban forestry supervisor the
1:57:56 park ranger uh the park maintenance
1:57:58 manager are all part of that team but I
1:58:02 think we're looking for someone to shake
1:58:04 things up and and make deals
1:58:07 okay councilmember ropes
1:58:10 uh so I am lucky enough to be from the
1:58:13 Twin Cities of Minneapolis-St Paul which
1:58:16 uh are known for the amazing trail
1:58:19 system that connects among other things
1:58:22 uh connects Lake Minnetonka all the way
1:58:24 down to the Mississippi River by way of
1:58:28 Minnehaha Falls and the actually
1:58:31 Minnehaha Creek is is canoeable the
1:58:33 whole way which unfortunately wouldn't
1:58:35 be able to do with Issaquah Creek but
1:58:37 the power of having those kinds of of
1:58:40 recreational Trails is just impossible
1:58:43 to overstate and uh so this is a topic
1:58:48 that we have said yes please we want
1:58:51 some more for many years now and of
1:58:53 course we've had this little speed bump
1:58:55 called covid but let's let's get to work
1:58:57 and let's spend some money and uh get
1:59:00 going on this this is the biggest most
1:59:03 transformational recreational thing uh
1:59:06 in the city that I've seen in the entire
1:59:07 time that I have been on Council and I
1:59:10 just want to get going on it so plus one
1:59:12 spend some money get going thanks
1:59:16 okay I've heard from three council
1:59:19 members and council member D Michelle
1:59:23 uh thank you I'll uh plus one those
1:59:26 comments as well
1:59:28 um I I heard uh director Watley say that
1:59:33 we needed one more person at least one
1:59:35 more person in there to do it and I
1:59:38 would like to see uh that department get
1:59:40 that person so that we can accelerate
1:59:43 um what is a an absolutely wonderful uh
1:59:47 Visionary project so I am a plus one on
1:59:51 that as well thanks
1:59:53 uh council member Ray uh thank you I'm
1:59:58 I'm completely supportive but I have a
2:00:00 couple of caveats that I'd like to throw
2:00:01 in there one is does the Parks
2:00:03 Department have the the wherewithal and
2:00:04 the ability to absorb yet another thing
2:00:07 on their plate not being you know we can
2:00:09 add another potting to do the work but
2:00:10 this is some specialized work and it's
2:00:12 going to require some some oversight and
2:00:16 so I'm really supportive of the idea and
2:00:19 I if it takes a body to get things
2:00:20 moving I'm really supportive of that I
2:00:23 just don't want to get to the point
2:00:24 where we're getting two years down the
2:00:25 road and we're all disappointed because
2:00:27 wow we really thought if we just threw
2:00:29 another body at this problem it would
2:00:31 get accelerated and and so I want some
2:00:33 assurances are too strong a word but I
2:00:35 want some suggestions at least that if
2:00:37 we do this it's going to make a
2:00:39 difference because we're pretty good at
2:00:41 saying if we do this it'll make a
2:00:43 difference and then it it uh it doesn't
2:00:45 always materialize so that's that's my
2:00:48 [Music]
2:00:49 we uh caveated support
2:00:54 well we have heard from more than a
2:00:57 majority so I think you have what you
2:00:59 need there
2:01:01 um and so we've got next item is
2:01:04 sustainability fund and solid waste
2:01:07 admin fee any comments questions
2:01:10 concerns suggestions uh council member D
2:01:14 Michelle
2:01:16 thank you um
2:01:19 uh council president Walsh can I take a
2:01:22 point of privilege and go back for just
2:01:24 one moment to the
2:01:26 affordable housing position
2:01:31 okay I was slow getting myself unmuted
2:01:35 and by the time I did it you had already
2:01:38 moved on so I just want to express my
2:01:41 strong support for for the uh resources
2:01:44 that are being put toward that position
2:01:46 uh I I think I expressed when we were
2:01:50 having our Retreat that we talked a lot
2:01:52 about housing and affordable housing and
2:01:55 how important it is uh but I am rather
2:01:58 frustrated that sometimes it doesn't
2:02:00 feel like we're making any progress at
2:02:02 all so I am looking forward to uh having
2:02:05 this person uh this position on board I
2:02:09 when I read the job description uh and
2:02:13 all the different tasks that this
2:02:14 position is going to fulfill I was uh I
2:02:18 was thinking that this person is going
2:02:20 to be walking on water as well as
2:02:22 helping us with affordable housing uh
2:02:25 but uh at any rate I just wanted to
2:02:27 express my strong support there
2:02:30 um so going to the sustainability
2:02:34 um uh budget I am very very supportive
2:02:36 of everything that has been presented
2:02:39 um and uh really want to thank Stacy for
2:02:42 the hard work that she's doing I didn't
2:02:45 take it to heart and she also put this
2:02:47 in the materials for tonight's meeting
2:02:49 that we really haven't started to
2:02:52 measure a success yet against the goals
2:02:55 that have been established and that
2:02:57 we're not going to really start doing
2:02:58 that until 2024 that the budget that
2:03:01 we're looking at right now is actually
2:03:04 just getting the initiatives uh all of
2:03:07 the proposed initiatives up and running
2:03:09 so I'll be very much looking forward to
2:03:11 seeing if the actions we're taking and
2:03:15 funding are going to actually make a
2:03:17 difference in our Greenhouse glass
2:03:20 greenhouse gas emissions
2:03:23 uh and then relates to the
2:03:25 sustainability fund uh I think I'm kind
2:03:28 of ambivalent about going to nine
2:03:30 percent I think I'd like to know uh more
2:03:34 about the impacts uh City administrator
2:03:37 Bob quits mentioned that you know that
2:03:39 we're having a large
2:03:41 fee increase that's going to hit anyway
2:03:45 you know sometime this coming year and
2:03:47 that this would be a new fee on top of
2:03:51 um I'm just wondering if we want to
2:03:53 think a little bit more carefully and
2:03:55 maybe come back to the maybe come back
2:03:58 to this uh a week from now and
2:04:02 uh think a little bit about whether
2:04:05 um raising that amount of funds is
2:04:09 actually going to get us where we want
2:04:10 to go so I'm I'm on the fence with
2:04:14 regard to the sustainability fund
2:04:17 increase so those are my comments thank
2:04:21 thank you councilmember Wright uh thanks
2:04:24 I have uh two thoughts on the
2:04:27 sustainability fund increase one is we
2:04:29 are going to have a significant increase
2:04:30 in the cost of trash hauling there's no
2:04:32 uh denying that and it's going to be
2:04:34 noticeable but to the public and and so
2:04:36 I'm a little bit reticent to increase it
2:04:39 even if it's only a couple bucks a month
2:04:42 and partly because those who have the
2:04:44 least ability to pay or the you know are
2:04:46 those it's going to affect the most and
2:04:48 I'm I I feel that concern also just from
2:04:52 an administrative point of view I think
2:04:55 we should talk about what it is we want
2:04:56 to accomplish and then go build a
2:04:58 funding model to do it instead of saying
2:05:00 well here's some money we can go grab
2:05:02 that and then let's go find a place to
2:05:03 spend it so um you know if there's some
2:05:06 needs that are unmet let's go put
2:05:08 together a funding model and if that
2:05:09 includes uh administrative fee increase
2:05:11 so be it but maybe it's uh it could come
2:05:14 from other sources too so I think we're
2:05:17 a little bit ahead of our skis on this
2:05:18 one right now so there's just too many
2:05:21 reasons I think to just
2:05:23 minimize the impact
2:05:26 [Music]
2:05:28 anyone else
2:05:30 Deputy council president Hall
2:05:33 um you know I
2:05:36 put this forward as something that we
2:05:38 should we we should consider just to
2:05:40 kind of explore the concept and make
2:05:41 sure we did our due diligence when it
2:05:43 came to doing everything we can with
2:05:45 regard to iCloud icap implementation I
2:05:48 was kind of on the fence for a little
2:05:49 bit too Barb
2:05:51 um but I think your comments in Chris's
2:05:53 comments Chris your comments in
2:05:55 particular that was really compelling
2:05:57 that was I think
2:05:58 um that well of course yours too to the
2:06:01 administrator
2:06:02 I am it is going to be a significant
2:06:05 rate increase and even if two two bucks
2:06:08 every other month
2:06:10 is is the outcome there maybe we
2:06:14 um take a step back at least for this
2:06:16 next year and not do anything with it
2:06:18 keep the six percent admin fee for the
2:06:22 sustainability fund which already is
2:06:23 going to be funding a lot of icap
2:06:25 implementation
2:06:26 Bravo for you know putting that
2:06:29 statement of work together
2:06:32 I think maybe we could reapproach this
2:06:35 again in 2024 you know another thing too
2:06:37 that we haven't really thought about
2:06:37 we've got money in this budget too to
2:06:39 rethink about our water rate study too
2:06:43 um thinking about how you know markets
2:06:45 are causing things to be more expensive
2:06:48 and whether or not we need to adjust our
2:06:50 rates to
2:06:52 account for that too so just rates in
2:06:54 general the rate burden in general over
2:06:56 the next five to ten years could be
2:06:59 significant so maybe let's think more
2:07:02 intentionally about this like
2:07:03 councilmember Ray said very well very
2:07:05 well point
2:07:08 uh council member hunt
2:07:12 um thank you I I agree about being
2:07:16 you know thinking about the the entire
2:07:19 rate increase it will be uh it will be
2:07:22 notable and I think we also have in the
2:07:26 in the proposed budget we do have
2:07:29 an increase in the sustainability
2:07:32 um programming and and the amount that
2:07:35 we're able to do in the icap which I
2:07:37 think is is
2:07:39 is great however one thing when I was
2:07:43 reading it and and then also in the uh
2:07:46 comments that we heard tonight there was
2:07:48 a comment about
2:07:50 about making sure that we are
2:07:53 prioritizing those items that have the
2:07:55 biggest impact on emissions avoidance
2:07:57 the other component I would say for me
2:07:59 is also the error bars or the
2:08:02 uncertainty and a lot of the items that
2:08:04 we have are programmatic or you know we
2:08:06 have a a building green buildings
2:08:09 program where we are working with
2:08:11 building owners to decarbonize their
2:08:13 buildings A lot of it is incentive and a
2:08:14 lot of it is
2:08:16 is there's there's definitely benefits
2:08:19 but then the extents of that benefit
2:08:21 will depend on a lot of factors that are
2:08:23 not completely within our control so
2:08:25 what I would say with this budget is the
2:08:28 items that were
2:08:30 um were called out as things that could
2:08:32 be funded with that additional money I
2:08:35 would I think that those are important
2:08:37 because they are things that are that
2:08:40 have certain emissions reductions if we
2:08:42 decarbonize our buildings we are not
2:08:45 only walking the talk but we are also
2:08:47 certain of what that emissions avoidance
2:08:49 will be
2:08:51 um so I I would like to see a little bit
2:08:53 of reconfiguration to make sure that we
2:08:56 are taking on those actions that we are
2:08:59 certain about that are our city
2:09:00 responsibility municipal building
2:09:02 decarbonization for example
2:09:05 um and then and the other one was the EV
2:09:07 Fleet
2:09:09 so I I think there's maybe a
2:09:11 re-balancing but I agree about the
2:09:14 making sure that we're
2:09:15 cognizant of the large increase that
2:09:18 will be coming their way so I wouldn't
2:09:19 be in support of increasing that rate at
2:09:21 this time but I um I do think making
2:09:24 sure that we have some items that have
2:09:26 these certain impacts would be good
2:09:29 um and
2:09:30 I'll also point out that the icap has
2:09:33 these short and medium term items and
2:09:35 those items as far as the municipal
2:09:38 retrofit that was a medium term and by
2:09:41 the ends of 2024 we will have ended when
2:09:44 we said what we set out to do in the
2:09:47 medium term so I would like to see us
2:09:49 take on those items because we agreed to
2:09:51 a plan and we should we should follow
2:09:54 through
2:09:58 so I will second that concept of you
2:10:03 know taking action as a municipal
2:10:06 government on our buildings and our
2:10:08 Fleet that was certainly something that
2:10:10 I said when we were talking in committee
2:10:13 about that uh
2:10:15 the energy building energy reduction
2:10:18 model so I would be interested in that
2:10:22 that being said I also don't support
2:10:24 going up from a six percent to a nine
2:10:26 percent I think we had a really good
2:10:28 conversation about that when we were
2:10:30 setting those rates and choosing that
2:10:33 contract and I wouldn't want to come
2:10:37 back to that at this point and change up
2:10:41 the conversation and the decision that
2:10:43 we had made at that point so interested
2:10:46 in seeing what we can do as a community
2:10:48 on sustainability but I don't think that
2:10:52 within the trash contract is the right
2:10:55 source of funding for that
2:11:00 anything else
2:11:03 okay so I think we've gone through all
2:11:06 of those items we've provided the
2:11:08 feedback
2:11:10 um is there anything else that the
2:11:12 administration needs from us on this
2:11:14 topic
2:11:15 oh council member hunt and councilmember
2:11:19 D Michelle
2:11:22 yeah go ahead councilmember D Michelle
2:11:26 um thank you uh I wanted to comment on
2:11:29 the uh take home police cars and then on
2:11:33 uh Monica's comments regarding the
2:11:36 response model that we're working with
2:11:39 um I think that the proposal to uh to
2:11:43 acquire five take-home cars is a really
2:11:47 excellent proposal
2:11:49 um I think it gets us started in the
2:11:52 right direction when it comes to
2:11:53 policing and making sure that we have a
2:11:56 great response time but also
2:11:58 um in some cases puts those police cars
2:12:01 out in the community during the evening
2:12:03 hours and I just see all kinds of
2:12:06 benefits to
2:12:08 the concept of community policing and
2:12:12 um and also supporting our Police
2:12:16 Department so that we set up a model
2:12:19 where we are taking care of our officers
2:12:21 and also making it a great place to work
2:12:24 so I don't see any downside to that uh
2:12:27 it's expensive uh but we've undertaken
2:12:30 expensive items before when we've walked
2:12:33 off into into Innovative
2:12:35 new territory this is New Territory it's
2:12:38 going to take some funding to get it up
2:12:41 and running but as I said earlier in my
2:12:43 remarks there is a startup cost to this
2:12:47 but eventually it's going to balance
2:12:50 itself out and it will be an integral
2:12:53 part of the way that we do policing and
2:12:55 I think I think it will be a very very
2:12:58 beneficial
2:13:00 uh pilot and and it'll be interesting to
2:13:03 see how it goes
2:13:05 um I just wanted to commend Monica uh on
2:13:08 her comments regarding our response
2:13:11 model
2:13:12 I think that if we go back and we think
2:13:14 about uh in March of 2020 we had one
2:13:19 person and it was Monica who was doing
2:13:22 Human Services and we have really grown
2:13:25 uh rapidly and we've grown effectively
2:13:28 uh but I think this is a period of time
2:13:31 where we need to kind of just step back
2:13:34 and figure out where we're going and and
2:13:36 what we're doing and I really commend
2:13:39 Monica for the comment she made about we
2:13:42 learned we have learned along the way
2:13:44 and we have adjusted what we're doing
2:13:46 based on our learning and it is growing
2:13:50 um organically and I think those are the
2:13:53 kind of transformational changes that
2:13:55 really last
2:13:56 and so I think that for this budget I am
2:14:01 uh I am willing to step back I think
2:14:04 eventually we are going to need a third
2:14:07 um person uh in our behavioral health
2:14:10 specialist uh Arena but I think right
2:14:13 now let's continue to get those lessons
2:14:16 uh let's see how much better we can work
2:14:18 with Eastside fire and rescue uh on the
2:14:21 behavioral health front
2:14:23 um and work with other uh non-profits in
2:14:26 the community let's see how we can
2:14:27 increase our Partnerships with them and
2:14:32 I think we're just on the right track
2:14:34 here uh and then we can come back uh
2:14:37 when it's appropriate
2:14:40 excuse me
2:14:42 and uh and add that third person when
2:14:45 when we've gone through this process of
2:14:48 calibrating where we are right now thank
2:14:53 thank you Deputy council president Hull
2:15:03 so there are two before we move on um
2:15:06 there are two things that I feel like a
2:15:08 few of us have offered
2:15:10 commentary on that I'm not entirely sure
2:15:13 what the next step is for the
2:15:15 administration so one of them was
2:15:17 whether or not to keep the verbiage for
2:15:20 parking
2:15:21 specific to Central Issaquah
2:15:25 um and then the other was councilmember
2:15:27 hunt just brought up adding or kind of
2:15:30 reconfiguring the scope of work for icap
2:15:33 implementation to include the items that
2:15:36 were included as additions on the slide
2:15:38 so I guess my question is the does the
2:15:41 administration need some sort of
2:15:43 consensus or more commentary on either
2:15:46 of those two things because one of them
2:15:48 at least the icap one could potentially
2:15:50 have something to bring back to on
2:15:52 Monday
2:15:55 the deputy council president members of
2:15:57 the council
2:15:58 um mayor Polly's not with us this
2:15:59 evening I'm going to need to go back and
2:16:01 check uh review the items with her to
2:16:04 see what changes she might might like to
2:16:07 make so I think what we'll have is a
2:16:10 these are pending matters until next
2:16:12 week we'll come back and share where
2:16:14 we're at and if the council disagrees
2:16:16 then I think we're looking at next week
2:16:18 being the final uh discussion evening
2:16:20 for the budget so if there's motions to
2:16:23 add language take things out there's
2:16:25 also the council president letter
2:16:27 um that can be used as a tool too
2:16:36 so so just to be clear you don't need
2:16:38 anything more from us on on those items
2:16:41 to bring anything back on on Monday no
2:16:47 council member hunt
2:16:49 um thank you I would like to see us move
2:16:52 towards the
2:16:54 um full 24 7 coverage of the co-response
2:16:57 as well
2:16:58 um as was mentioned previously it is in
2:17:01 our police accountability equity and
2:17:03 Human Services plan which we have now uh
2:17:09 formally concluded I believe although
2:17:11 there were items that will continue and
2:17:14 then it's also in the Human Services
2:17:16 strategy plan and so I think I think we
2:17:21 should move towards that we have large
2:17:24 increases represented in the um in the
2:17:28 police funding in this budget and and I
2:17:33 understand the reasons for those I do
2:17:35 think it's important to consider the the
2:17:38 2.1 million approximately that is due to
2:17:42 the police car take-home patrol car
2:17:44 take-home policy specifically because
2:17:46 it's a large amount of money so anytime
2:17:49 we have a large uh we are starting a
2:17:52 program that will cost
2:17:54 more than the cost on that order of
2:17:57 magnitude of money I think it's very
2:17:58 important to look at the at the benefits
2:18:00 and and the
2:18:04 the rationale behind it
2:18:06 um so I I think that there's a large
2:18:07 increase in police and I would ask for
2:18:10 for the future that we also make sure
2:18:12 that we are following up on those other
2:18:14 aspects of our Public Safety plan going
2:18:19 forward that would also include that
2:18:21 co-response for when there are other
2:18:24 forms of crises that would benefit from
2:18:26 having that co-responder there so I I
2:18:28 think we're on the right track moving
2:18:30 towards that I understand that there are
2:18:33 reasons why that didn't appear in this
2:18:36 budget but I'm very supportive of moving
2:18:37 towards that and wanted to give that as
2:18:40 some of the context around my earlier
2:18:41 questions around the
2:18:43 um the large increase in the police
2:18:45 budget in this year's budget thank you
2:18:50 council member Ray
2:18:52 I've got a couple of they're a bit
2:18:54 generic comments but I think they they
2:18:56 are germane first kudos to council
2:18:59 leadership and to the administration for
2:19:01 developing a process to help us
2:19:03 establish our budget priorities this
2:19:05 year I think it went really well I think
2:19:08 this pre-work is why I think council
2:19:10 member March talked about aliens coming
2:19:12 down at our last meeting and not
2:19:14 understanding why we're in such
2:19:15 agreement so I think that the process
2:19:17 really did identify what our priorities
2:19:20 should be provide a solid foundation for
2:19:22 the budget and I think the
2:19:23 administration did a really great job
2:19:25 of delivering a budget that reflected
2:19:28 those and and if you look at the
2:19:30 crosswalk and it really did reflect the
2:19:32 things that we said were important got
2:19:34 hit hard and the things that we said
2:19:35 yeah it's not as important
2:19:38 they got addressed kind of on an as
2:19:42 as could be basis and so
2:19:45 um so I really I really appreciated that
2:19:48 we really kind of said here's our
2:19:49 priorities go forth and do our
2:19:51 priorities and the other things that you
2:19:52 can pick up
2:19:54 um let's go pick those up and and I see
2:19:56 it all throughout the capital and the
2:19:58 operating budget so um kudos to
2:20:00 everybody for doing that we've got a
2:20:01 good budget I think the other thing we
2:20:03 do have is we have an opportunity even
2:20:05 though it's a biennial budget to do an
2:20:07 update and so if we get to this time
2:20:10 next year and we're doing a review and
2:20:12 we say hey we missed this or we under
2:20:14 did that or we over did this we have a
2:20:16 chance to true that up so
2:20:18 um you know two points one is nice job
2:20:21 City Administration
2:20:23 reflecting priorities and two if we need
2:20:26 to make changes we still can
2:20:30 well you kind of stole my thunder I was
2:20:32 gonna say some of that related to I
2:20:35 think hearing from Monica about hey
2:20:39 we've got this work to do talking about
2:20:42 what the opportunities are to
2:20:46 collaborate with other service providers
2:20:48 including effer and food and clothing
2:20:50 bank and all of that to understand what
2:20:53 our range of services and who our
2:20:56 co-responders are across that is really
2:20:59 important but I am really keenly
2:21:01 supportive of this and looking at that
2:21:03 2024 period of time as maybe there will
2:21:08 be some opportunities to make some
2:21:09 adjustments there and I'll just throw it
2:21:12 out there if we're having a hard time
2:21:14 recruiting anybody for Behavioral Health
2:21:16 maybe we could consider a take-home
2:21:19 vehicle
2:21:20 just as another opportunity and hey I
2:21:22 would suggest that we make it electric
2:21:24 because that's going to hit a lot of
2:21:26 different buttons and it could just give
2:21:28 us some really great opportunities sorry
2:21:30 Barb to make you laugh and cough
2:21:34 um Okay so
2:21:36 any other comments coming out here okay
2:21:40 I'm gonna put a pin in that and say we
2:21:44 are probably done with that topic item
2:21:47 and we're looking at two and a half
2:21:51 hours in on uh first topic so what are
2:21:54 you thinking first of all let me say
2:21:56 thank you to the council
2:21:58 um you know you as a body I have been
2:22:01 very thoughtful about the approach I
2:22:04 think you appreciate the Kudos mayor
2:22:06 Paul I appreciates the kudos to the
2:22:08 administration but uh it's your
2:22:10 discipline to say this is a process we
2:22:13 want to follow we have a strategic plan
2:22:16 many of our neighbor communities do not
2:22:18 enjoy that same kind of discipline of
2:22:22 policy making from their elected body so
2:22:24 thank you very much for that we'll come
2:22:26 back then uh next week I would imagine
2:22:28 with a couple of adjustments based on
2:22:30 the discussion this evening and then
2:22:32 we'll be ready to have the documents
2:22:34 before you on November 7th there's two
2:22:36 additional items this evening we would
2:22:39 recommend taking one not both we have
2:22:42 several members of the park board that
2:22:44 have been patiently waiting for the
2:22:48 third item so perhaps we could take that
2:22:51 item and uh and take the mobility item
2:22:55 and bring that back next week Gene Paul
2:22:58 is an excellent report that you've done
2:23:01 and he's been sitting here very
2:23:02 patiently this evening got his Christmas
2:23:04 cards list all straightened out and
2:23:06 ready to go now but we could come back
2:23:09 if Gene's available next week if Gene's
2:23:12 sitting at home you all know what he
2:23:13 looks like in 3D so if he doesn't need
2:23:15 to come back
2:23:16 to the city hall for that but maybe we
2:23:19 take a short break right now and then
2:23:21 come back and do the parks item and then
2:23:24 move forward yes
2:23:27 thank you just one side note on the
2:23:29 budget there were some outstanding
2:23:31 questions especially in regards to
2:23:33 specific capital projects
2:23:36 our our teams are working on that as we
2:23:39 speak we are going to go ahead and send
2:23:42 those answers directly to council and
2:23:44 then we will memorialize them in the
2:23:47 November 7th packet
2:23:51 fantastic okay so do we feel good about
2:23:55 um Shifting the community Mobility
2:23:57 survey item to another next week and
2:24:02 going ahead with the perk project
2:24:04 recommendation yes and five minute break
2:24:08 okay fantastic we're gonna do both of
2:24:11 those so we're going to take a five
2:24:14 minute break and we'll be back at 8 59.
2:31:32 we're uh given the 10 seconds
2:31:37 thank you
2:31:40 okay and it looks like we are back thank
2:31:44 you everyone for the little break and
2:31:45 thank you to the park board members who
2:31:48 have stayed on with us as we discussed
2:31:51 all of our uh budget issues so it looks
2:31:54 like the next item on our agenda is ID
2:31:58 1280 the community investment strategy
2:32:01 Park project recommendation this is
2:32:03 going to be presented by Jeff Watling
2:32:05 parks and Community Services director
2:32:07 goodness Jeff I hope your voice is going
2:32:10 to uh make it through this presentation
2:32:13 sign language I I don't know what we're
2:32:16 going to end up with but thank you for
2:32:18 being here
2:32:19 thank you council president good evening
2:32:21 refill the water I don't know what
2:32:23 happened but as the day went on it got
2:32:25 worse so
2:32:27 um thought it best that I I do this from
2:32:29 uh from video well thank you uh council
2:32:32 members um uh for the opportunity to
2:32:35 come back and have this conversation and
2:32:37 report back to you the work of the
2:32:39 community investment strategy on the
2:32:41 work we've been doing with the park
2:32:43 board as mentioned two Park board
2:32:45 members are here Kris Kovach and Katie
2:32:48 Bell thank you so much Chris and Katie
2:32:50 for joining us I'm also with us Jennifer
2:32:52 Fink our part planner I'd also just want
2:32:55 to give a Kudos as I'm about to make
2:32:57 this presentation to our our landscape
2:32:59 architect Partners uh methune methune
2:33:03 did a great job of helping us really
2:33:05 start to brainstorm this work so
2:33:08 um thank you city clerk Geezer I believe
2:33:12 Tisha you were going to share your
2:33:14 screen and share the presentation
2:33:16 thank you so much
2:33:18 so next slide
2:33:23 so purposes of an efficiency and and my
2:33:26 voice I'm going to try and do this with
2:33:28 some brevity but but be really clear so
2:33:30 along with any feedback you can provide
2:33:31 us tonight
2:33:33 um we're really seeking two guidance and
2:33:35 two core questions for you to to
2:33:37 consider the first is do you support the
2:33:40 rationale analysis and Park Board
2:33:42 recommendation a pedestrian Park Depot
2:33:44 Park Senior Center Plaza as the
2:33:46 preferred location for this four million
2:33:49 dollar arpa Park project
2:33:51 um second guidance question we're
2:33:53 looking at is does the council have a
2:33:55 preference for which portion or portions
2:33:57 of this area ped Park Depot Park Senior
2:34:01 Center Plaza that should be included in
2:34:04 this initial four million dollar
2:34:05 investment
2:34:07 next slide
2:34:11 so like any overview let's start from uh
2:34:14 once we last uh had our discussion and
2:34:16 that was on July 5th we had some really
2:34:18 good conversation with you all and got
2:34:20 some great feedback from Council
2:34:23 um on uh this community investment
2:34:24 strategy specifically the four million
2:34:26 dollar investment as you may recall
2:34:29 um really the guidance you provided us
2:34:31 at the end of that meeting was consider
2:34:34 a four million dollar investment using
2:34:36 arpa funds into
2:34:38 one of our major Community Parks we're
2:34:42 referring to them as anchor Parks
2:34:43 Council U also asked us to consider
2:34:46 Confluence part so the four Parks you
2:34:48 wanted us to consider were Tibbetts
2:34:50 Valley Park the creek Corridor the
2:34:54 Veterans Memorial Park and sort of this
2:34:56 consolid conglomeration of parks in Old
2:34:59 Town and then Confluence Park
2:35:02 uh you might recall at that presentation
2:35:06 um identified some some starting
2:35:08 potential criteria that we would base
2:35:11 this work on and really seek a rationale
2:35:16 um seek evaluation through these core
2:35:19 criteria the arpa funds have some pretty
2:35:23 specific requirements and restrictions
2:35:25 to them and and really required us to
2:35:27 not just look for what might be the most
2:35:30 popular part but what would make sense
2:35:32 for an investment that could meet the
2:35:34 criteria criteria of this arpa funding
2:35:38 uh you ask that we seek Park Board
2:35:40 feedback
2:35:41 um and and rationale and bring this back
2:35:44 to you during the budget process so here
2:35:47 we are next slide
2:35:50 so the criteria themselves uh this slide
2:35:53 may be familiar as it was uh talked
2:35:55 about at July 5th and this really served
2:35:58 as the starting point as we began to uh
2:36:01 really talk with the park board about
2:36:03 how we wanted to take on this uh this
2:36:06 effort over the the next couple of
2:36:07 months and the work that we've done here
2:36:09 in in August and September
2:36:13 a couple of these criteria that I just
2:36:15 want to point out that really became
2:36:16 important as you'll see in the in the
2:36:18 presentation in particular with a
2:36:21 federal funding that has such a a hard
2:36:25 um deadline for when it needs to be
2:36:27 funded
2:36:28 um as we talked about earlier during our
2:36:31 earlier conversation tonight capital
2:36:32 projects can get complex in a hurry so
2:36:36 the level of project Readiness
2:36:38 are there critical areas or other site
2:36:41 conditions that we need to be aware of
2:36:43 as we consider these parks and or even
2:36:46 locations within the parks we wanted to
2:36:48 be very careful with that as well the
2:36:51 criteria future phasing as we look and
2:36:53 realize a four million dollar investment
2:36:55 alone is probably not going to do
2:36:57 everything the community is interested
2:36:59 in any of these sites how do we make
2:37:01 sure we're making an investment that
2:37:02 doesn't get in the way of future
2:37:04 Investments and we can create a clean
2:37:07 first phase and really pay attention to
2:37:09 Future phasing needs
2:37:12 next slide
2:37:15 so with that feedback from you we
2:37:20 started some really important work with
2:37:21 the park board and that started with the
2:37:23 July meeting on the 25th we actually
2:37:25 started with that slide of of the
2:37:27 criteria and really fine-tuned that into
2:37:31 actual an actual evaluation process came
2:37:35 up with a matrix format and then the
2:37:37 park board identified an ad hoc group
2:37:39 for four members of the park board that
2:37:42 would really begin to dive in deep with
2:37:45 staff and the consultant team on doing
2:37:47 this work
2:37:49 those members Kris kobach was one of the
2:37:51 members of that ad hoc group he's here
2:37:53 tonight
2:37:54 um a couple meetings in August really
2:37:57 began to set out in filling in that
2:38:01 Matrix you'll you'll notice in your
2:38:03 materials tonight
2:38:05 um the sort of the full working drag
2:38:07 draft version of that Matrix as we went
2:38:10 through each of those four Park sites
2:38:12 and sort of walked them through the
2:38:14 criteria and subsets of those criteria
2:38:16 to really try and answer some key
2:38:19 questions on how those sites and
2:38:21 potential projects might fit within this
2:38:24 arpa funding we came back to the park
2:38:26 board for the August meeting and had a
2:38:29 really good check-in on The Matrix
2:38:31 itself the end of that meeting really
2:38:34 allowed us to identify two of the the
2:38:37 park areas that seem to be the the best
2:38:40 candidates for the funding and then that
2:38:42 led to trying to identify some specific
2:38:44 projects
2:38:46 two ad hoc meetings in September really
2:38:49 helped to begin to flesh that out and do
2:38:52 some really good work with the
2:38:53 consultant team on ideas and Concepts
2:38:56 that came back to the park board just
2:38:59 last week on the 29th
2:39:01 um or I guess it's two weeks ago now
2:39:03 time flies
2:39:05 um uh for a really good discussion
2:39:08 deliberation and what ended up being a
2:39:11 recommendation coming out of the park
2:39:15 next slide
2:39:18 so um this is a rolled up version of
2:39:21 that that Matrix as I said that the
2:39:23 actual full working draft
2:39:25 um is in your attachment
2:39:27 um it's far too
2:39:30 um far too big to try and put on on a
2:39:33 slide
2:39:34 um what this rolled up version really
2:39:36 attempts to
2:39:38 um identify is within this this work we
2:39:41 really took sort of a very simple
2:39:43 color-coded approach
2:39:45 um green uh yellow red in some cases
2:39:48 shades of red just trying to identify
2:39:50 where do we see
2:39:53 Within These Park sites how they mesh
2:39:57 with the criteria either in terms of
2:39:59 doable versus a very challenging
2:40:03 uh what this rolled up version begins to
2:40:06 sort of even visually start to show is
2:40:09 within these four sites and four Parks
2:40:12 Veterans Memorial uh sort of the
2:40:15 Consolidated Park
2:40:16 um and Confluence Park began to really
2:40:19 show themselves as probably the two
2:40:21 sites that that were the best able to
2:40:25 mesh with the arpa funding and being
2:40:29 able to to hit that
2:40:31 hit that completion date of the end of
2:40:34 2024.
2:40:36 um the creek Corridor uh certainly had
2:40:39 some potential I think as we had
2:40:42 conversations about the creek Corridor
2:40:44 there was a a real understanding that
2:40:47 that much of it
2:40:50 still requires acquisition and
2:40:52 acquisition is really hard to predict on
2:40:55 when that would be completed
2:40:57 though we did see opportunity
2:41:00 um to really try and identify is there a
2:41:04 way to add a needed Community amenity
2:41:07 within the creek Corridor in a way to to
2:41:10 activate the the creek Corridor and so
2:41:12 as I walk through the ideas you'll see
2:41:15 that that discussion is what sort of
2:41:18 um created uh this idea of taking the
2:41:23 off leash dog area uh dog park and
2:41:26 incorporating one at probably the one of
2:41:30 the more popular sites of the dog park
2:41:31 tour and that's the old skate park site
2:41:34 which is on the Rainier Trail so a way
2:41:36 to take a needed community of amenity
2:41:39 and activate
2:41:40 a trail Corridor and a trail Corridor
2:41:43 that's going to be such a vital part of
2:41:45 the city system for for generations to
2:41:50 so with that Matrix and sort of looking
2:41:53 at veterans Confluence and this idea of
2:41:57 an amenity along the creek Corridor next
2:42:00 slide that really led to
2:42:03 sort of the next stage of this work
2:42:06 the next slides represent uh those
2:42:09 conversations we had with the ad hoc
2:42:12 group and with the full Park Board in
2:42:14 September as we started to frame up and
2:42:17 identify you know what what our workable
2:42:21 doable projects within each of these
2:42:23 sites
2:42:25 next slide
2:42:28 so Confluence Park again really
2:42:31 appreciated the council conversation on
2:42:33 July 5th from that conversation you may
2:42:36 recall
2:42:38 um a lot of talk around the what was
2:42:41 planned as phase four uh which is uh an
2:42:45 expansion in this park if and when
2:42:48 the city finds time and and significant
2:42:52 resources to relocate uh the current
2:42:55 maintenance facility which is on the
2:42:58 south side of the
2:43:00 um the East Fork of of the creek
2:43:04 some of the desired amenities though of
2:43:07 phase four one of those significant
2:43:09 amenities is an expanded play area so
2:43:12 that began to sort of
2:43:15 really percolate this idea of the
2:43:18 northeast corner of Confluence Park
2:43:21 where the eckhouse is is really sort of
2:43:24 an undefined area of this park what
2:43:27 would it look like to take a project
2:43:28 that really creates a lot more
2:43:31 definition for that corner of the park
2:43:33 really start to think of that as a new
2:43:35 entry into the park how could we really
2:43:38 activate the eckhouse as a park amenity
2:43:41 really I think recognizing its historic
2:43:45 significance but really sort of bringing
2:43:47 it into play having become a a usable
2:43:50 amenity within the park and then expand
2:43:53 and build off of the play area in that
2:43:55 corner this slide also represents some
2:43:58 of the conversation around
2:44:00 completing the lighting project on the
2:44:03 sort of the main trail that goes from
2:44:05 third to Rainier Boulevard that crosses
2:44:07 the bridge we've really found through
2:44:09 the years since the bridge has been
2:44:11 built this is a this is a really really
2:44:13 important Trail connection for the
2:44:16 community in the neighborhood they're
2:44:17 currently there's lighting
2:44:19 um on the bridge area but not lighting
2:44:22 of the full Trail also looking at a
2:44:25 potential curb enhancements as we've
2:44:27 done the turf enhancements to the main
2:44:28 lawn of Confluence we found that lawn
2:44:31 area to become increasingly and
2:44:33 immensely well used so adding some
2:44:36 curbing to improve our maintenance
2:44:38 conditions would be part of this project
2:44:40 too next slide
2:44:43 goes into a little bit more detail of
2:44:45 that northeast corner again these are
2:44:47 not designs by any stretch methune does
2:44:49 an amazing job of making them look
2:44:51 really pretty but there's a lot of a lot
2:44:53 of detail that would need to be worked
2:44:55 out but you really get a visual sense of
2:44:58 this concept of taking the really the
2:45:04 um the frame the structure of the
2:45:06 eckhouse much like the barn is to the
2:45:09 picnic shelter on the south side of
2:45:10 Confluence Park this would be a an
2:45:13 outdoor space to be used by by residents
2:45:17 as a shelter and a gathering space that
2:45:20 would really recognize and give
2:45:22 historical sort of reference to The
2:45:26 Farmhouse on on the site allowing a
2:45:30 little larger Plaza area to spill out
2:45:32 and better connect to the existing play
2:45:35 area and the expanded player play area
2:45:38 initial cost estimates for this project
2:45:41 were between 2.8 and 3 million dollars
2:45:46 next slide
2:45:50 one second Jeff it's got a direct
2:45:52 question from council member Joe could
2:45:55 you go back one slide to slide number
2:45:57 eight I just had a question about the
2:45:59 Holly Street area the uh park there in
2:46:04 the North West corner it appears that
2:46:08 there's a bridge over the creek that
2:46:09 goes to Holly and then some parking over
2:46:12 there is that
2:46:14 a bridge that we're thinking about
2:46:15 putting in and are we using the school
2:46:17 district parking on the other side of
2:46:20 the the creek there
2:46:21 that that is not part of this project
2:46:24 nor is it necessarily
2:46:27 um a identified Capital project we
2:46:29 wanted to certainly show that
2:46:31 um I think somewhere in the tip and the
2:46:33 transportation Improvement plan there is
2:46:35 discussion of Holly Street
2:46:40 um improvements within those Holly
2:46:43 Street improvements we would want to
2:46:45 make sure the right-of-way is preserved
2:46:47 I believe in some of the early planning
2:46:49 efforts on that work additional parking
2:46:52 would be included as part of Confluence
2:46:55 so this is really within the concept
2:46:57 wanting to make sure
2:46:59 um any anything any improvements that
2:47:02 would be done in the park would still
2:47:04 preserve whatever right-of-way space is
2:47:06 needed for Holly
2:47:09 Okay so
2:47:11 under the four million dollars for the
2:47:14 entire
2:47:15 project that we're considering would we
2:47:17 or Would we not be putting a Footbridge
2:47:21 the creek there to connect Holly
2:47:24 no we would not that is not that is not
2:47:26 part of this project okay thank you very
2:47:34 you can continue thank you
2:47:36 yeah thanks for that question
2:47:39 so uh back to
2:47:41 um this uh other item of what would it
2:47:43 look like to consider an amenity a
2:47:47 recreational amenity somewhere on the
2:47:49 the creek Corridor
2:47:51 um this
2:47:53 opportunity for taking what has been our
2:47:57 most popular dog park tour site this is
2:48:00 the old Skate Park location sort of
2:48:03 expanding that footprint a little bit
2:48:05 but but activating that South East edge
2:48:11 um of the community center along the
2:48:13 Rainier Trail and converting that into a
2:48:16 permanent dog park
2:48:17 the cost estimates for this are roughly
2:48:20 600 to 650 000. we've learned a lot as
2:48:24 we've done the dog park tour
2:48:27 um we I'll also say this because I you
2:48:30 know as you look at the the report this
2:48:32 this project is not identified or
2:48:35 recommended for the arpa funding as we
2:48:38 were taught talking about ideas and
2:48:40 concepts with the park board I think one
2:48:42 of the reasons this idea sort of
2:48:44 percolated up was we wanted to have
2:48:48 flexibility and sort of reserve the the
2:48:51 opportunity
2:48:52 um if this four million dollars is
2:48:55 considered for a park project should it
2:48:57 all go into one place or might it be
2:49:00 sort of dispersed into multiple areas so
2:49:03 this idea for the dog park sort of came
2:49:06 from wanting to have that flexibility as
2:49:09 you'll certainly see as we go on and as
2:49:11 you see in the recommendation the
2:49:13 recommendation is to consider this four
2:49:16 million dollars for Park investment in a
2:49:18 more concentrated way in one specific
2:49:20 place so this is not recommended to move
2:49:22 forward I would say though this Summer's
2:49:25 discussion with the park board and the
2:49:28 dog park tour we've had these last
2:49:29 couple years I think has really
2:49:31 confirmed a number of things and one is
2:49:33 we when you look at the Park acreage we
2:49:36 have and the desires and interests this
2:49:39 community has for off leash tug areas we
2:49:42 need to be realistic and one realistic
2:49:44 thing is we're probably not a one dog
2:49:45 park Town it might be really really hard
2:49:48 for us to try and find a five plus acre
2:49:51 space to create one dog park that's
2:49:53 going to serve this whole Community we
2:49:56 are likely
2:49:57 a community that has an opportunity to
2:50:00 carve out smaller neighborhood off leash
2:50:03 dog areas like this and so you'll notice
2:50:07 in the capital budget a proposal and
2:50:11 request for for dog park I just say this
2:50:14 in context not necessarily of this arpa
2:50:15 discussion but I think as we're looking
2:50:18 at making investments into this park
2:50:21 system the opportunity for this to be a
2:50:24 first off leash dog area not the only
2:50:25 dog off leash dog area but a first off
2:50:28 leash dog area we can invest in right
2:50:30 now as future off-leash dog parks are
2:50:33 considered at Tibbetts Valley Park and
2:50:34 other locations
2:50:37 next slide
2:50:40 so the the last area that we sort of
2:50:43 looked at of these three was
2:50:45 um what we called Veterans Memorial
2:50:47 Consolidated Park and in particular and
2:50:49 as you'll see here in the uh this
2:50:52 rendering it it really focuses more on
2:50:55 the bridge between the field and Front
2:50:58 Street
2:50:59 um any of you as you walk through this
2:51:02 area and probably have countless times
2:51:04 we we experience it we recognize it as a
2:51:07 relatively disjointed set of public
2:51:10 spaces from pedestrian Park which is
2:51:13 right at the corner of of front and
2:51:15 sunset between the the two restaurants
2:51:18 there then transitioning back to the
2:51:21 depot building and then transitioning
2:51:25 across the tracks to the senior center
2:51:27 as we began brainstorming just how we
2:51:31 might consider an investment in veterans
2:51:33 this area really
2:51:35 resonated strongly as an opportunity to
2:51:40 make an initial investment that begins
2:51:42 to unify the space begins to feel like
2:51:45 more of a space that is inviting for
2:51:48 people to hang out in
2:51:50 the depot itself has is an amazing
2:51:53 backdrop and and and should be a
2:51:55 welcoming place for for people to to
2:51:57 hang out uh the senior center currently
2:52:00 doesn't have much of a relationship uh
2:52:02 to Veterans Memorial Park
2:52:05 um how might we consider Investments
2:52:06 That Make and create more of a
2:52:09 relationship uh between the senior
2:52:11 center and the public spaces around us
2:52:13 and then pedestrian Park is uh right now
2:52:16 feels more like a visual barrier that it
2:52:19 should really feel like a Gateway from
2:52:21 one of the primary intersections of
2:52:23 Issaquah Front Street and sunset into
2:52:26 the depot into the all the history that
2:52:29 that Depot represents and these these
2:52:31 public spaces that are so close to Old
2:52:35 Town and really a pretty key economic
2:52:38 engine to the community
2:52:41 next slide
2:52:43 uh these next three slides are just an
2:52:45 attempt to to sort of look more focused
2:52:47 at each of these three areas
2:52:49 individually uh first pedestrian Park
2:52:52 um estimated at about 1.8 to 2 million
2:52:55 dollars
2:52:56 um how through a mix of lighting uh
2:52:59 water and sort of interactive water
2:53:02 seating and other and other
2:53:06 um really great architectural sort of
2:53:08 place making ways really make this feel
2:53:11 more like a place that someone would
2:53:12 want to hang out a family would want to
2:53:14 want to hang out and just be and gather
2:53:19 next slide
2:53:23 Depot Park this begins to begins to take
2:53:27 um and create some ideas around again
2:53:31 similarly how do we how do we take the
2:53:34 use of of of seeding and Rain Gardens
2:53:38 and water and coverings and
2:53:42 other sort of other ways that cities
2:53:46 around us have have created these Urban
2:53:48 plazas and these Urban spaces that feel
2:53:51 like a place to gather and and maybe
2:53:54 after having dinner one night or maybe
2:53:55 taking your dinner out and hanging out
2:54:01 slide represents a four to four point
2:54:03 eight million dollar investment as
2:54:06 you'll soon see as we as you begin to
2:54:07 add up these three areas it's more than
2:54:09 four million so we we really also have
2:54:12 opportunity to consider where we might
2:54:14 Focus these Investments next slide
2:54:18 again sort of furthers this idea I was
2:54:21 speaking of earlier of the opportunity
2:54:24 in and around the senior center and and
2:54:26 really giving
2:54:28 um more activities more outdoor
2:54:30 activities that could be supported not
2:54:33 um could support Senior Center users but
2:54:35 also Park users these would be amenities
2:54:38 games places to hang out that would not
2:54:40 be restricted just for senior centers
2:54:42 but begin to feel like more of a
2:54:44 multi-generational space that gets
2:54:47 seniors out of the building and gets
2:54:48 Park users a little bit closer to the
2:54:51 senior center and interacting together
2:54:56 and as in looking at this area you know
2:54:59 it could be a two to two point three
2:55:00 million dollar investment
2:55:03 um investment there
2:55:05 next slide these next two slides are are
2:55:08 really just precedent images precedent
2:55:10 images are a fun way to say this isn't
2:55:12 exactly what the designs can be but
2:55:14 here's how here's how other cities other
2:55:16 communities around us have sort of
2:55:17 Incorporated similar design amenities to
2:55:21 create these public spaces
2:55:25 thank you Tisha for walking through
2:55:27 those
2:55:30 um so this next slide sort of takes a
2:55:33 look at
2:55:34 um all three of these and and rolls up
2:55:36 the the prices that you saw
2:55:39 um in the estimates uh this is where a
2:55:42 lot of um our conversation and focus
2:55:45 with the Park Board in particular this
2:55:47 last meeting on the on the 29th began to
2:55:50 sort of take a look back at the Matrix
2:55:52 and and really get a sense from the park
2:55:54 board as as a great group of
2:55:56 Representative of residents of Issaquah
2:55:59 where where does the investment make the
2:56:02 most sense
2:56:03 um and that's where looking at all of
2:56:07 those Investments of pedestrian Park
2:56:09 Depot Park and Senior Center and saying
2:56:11 hey even though those are you know could
2:56:14 be in the neighborhood of eight to nine
2:56:15 million dollars
2:56:17 um you know how do we create or
2:56:20 prioritize a space and and really make a
2:56:22 first significant bite
2:56:24 um of of some public space and public
2:56:26 investment
2:56:27 um in that in that area
2:56:31 next slide
2:56:34 and this leads to the park board
2:56:35 recommendation itself and and as I was
2:56:38 trying to efficiently go through all of
2:56:40 that I'm going to pause and invite Chris
2:56:42 and or Katie to to come on board and and
2:56:46 certainly add any comments or anything I
2:56:49 missed in in just again the terrific
2:56:52 work that that you all did as we worked
2:56:54 through this the last couple months and
2:56:56 then Chris maybe you can speak directly
2:56:58 to the uh to the
2:57:02 um notion that you all uh approved
2:57:08 thank you Jeff and uh good evening thank
2:57:10 you council members uh for your time I'm
2:57:13 Kris Kovac
2:57:14 resident for 22 years and a business
2:57:17 owner for off and on for 10 years and a
2:57:19 Park Board member for about four years
2:57:22 and Jeff despite his uh vocal cord
2:57:26 challenges there gave quite a thorough
2:57:28 presentation
2:57:31 um the park board did arrive at a
2:57:33 recommendation with a motion and you've
2:57:37 seen that
2:57:38 um but I guess maybe a few things that
2:57:40 are important to add is you know before
2:57:43 the uh
2:57:45 before that we arrived at any of this
2:57:47 you know the ad hoc committee was formed
2:57:49 as volunteer uh we really had some
2:57:52 excellent facilitation by Jennifer Fink
2:57:54 I think that's really important uh
2:57:57 knowing the whole time through this
2:57:59 process you know what we were working on
2:58:01 and then to hand it off to you and then
2:58:04 to get all the way to our deadline the
2:58:06 the clock is ticking pretty loudly on
2:58:08 these funds and it would be a shame to
2:58:10 to not use them efficiently
2:58:14 um so we started out spent some time
2:58:16 fleshing out the criteria and I don't
2:58:18 know if you've had the chance uh for
2:58:20 your recall but that that table the The
2:58:22 Matrix
2:58:24 it's you know many pages long when you
2:58:27 when you expand it all the way and uh we
2:58:30 started out with the list of criteria
2:58:32 that I think came from the council and
2:58:35 we also began to add a few others that
2:58:38 we think were really significant and
2:58:40 that that stood out in our minds is that
2:58:42 you know as a Park Board is relevant
2:58:45 and and then after that we began to
2:58:47 really shave away in in sort of a you
2:58:50 know Occam's razor type of approach
2:58:51 shave away what whatever we considered
2:58:54 you know my complicate or hinder the the
2:58:57 possible projects
2:58:59 and so some of the items that we applied
2:59:02 uh you know based based on feedback from
2:59:05 the park board at large
2:59:06 where uh you know of course we don't
2:59:09 want to hinder or be detrimental
2:59:11 whatever we select we don't want to
2:59:13 hinder or be detrimental to Future
2:59:15 projects uh we didn't want to
2:59:19 you know like for instance Tibbetts Park
2:59:21 was an excellent example of that there
2:59:23 were things that we could pick off but
2:59:26 we really didn't know that for 4 million
2:59:28 but we didn't know if it might uh really
2:59:31 tie a hand behind our back uh for all
2:59:33 the future expansion the much larger
2:59:35 work in the future so that was an
2:59:37 example of uh you know shaving away at
2:59:39 the complication
2:59:42 um we also felt that it really needed
2:59:44 the economic aspect of this impact
2:59:47 really needed to be recognized uh you
2:59:50 know recognizing where these funds were
2:59:52 coming from what they're intended to do
2:59:54 and being able to stand behind the you
2:59:58 know that we selected something
3:00:00 recommended something that would be in
3:00:03 in spirit of the the funding
3:00:06 uh some other uh aspects that we thought
3:00:10 about and discussed you know the public
3:00:11 impact we want
3:00:13 the the public to see it at whatever is
3:00:16 completed as you know a successful use
3:00:19 of this this funding and uh impactful
3:00:22 use but you know both the economic
3:00:25 element but also the you know sort of
3:00:26 the public use and uh popularity in a
3:00:30 way you know it's a funny word to use in
3:00:32 that situation but you really want
3:00:34 something that's gonna have a wow factor
3:00:37 uh and then some other topics that were
3:00:40 brought up you know
3:00:43 we wanted a complete project we think
3:00:45 that's really important that whatever we
3:00:48 do we don't do
3:00:50 halfway of a bunch of stuff we what we
3:00:52 what we pick is done to completion so
3:00:56 that it's really meaningful and it's not
3:00:58 uh left uh one description is so that
3:01:01 the public isn't left living in a
3:01:02 remodel for many many years
3:01:06 um another uh board member mentioned the
3:01:09 idea we really should be looking for
3:01:11 something that we think will be an
3:01:13 accelerator an accelerator for other
3:01:15 projects and so sort of the you know the
3:01:18 opposite of the
3:01:20 a project that might be detrimental to a
3:01:22 future project we wanted something that
3:01:24 might help accelerate one of the other
3:01:25 projects that's already in you know
3:01:27 future planning
3:01:29 uh and then again that the clock is
3:01:31 ticking we really kept that in mind we
3:01:33 need to we knew we needed to get this to
3:01:36 council uh so that you would have time
3:01:38 to think and act and then to that for
3:01:41 that to come back to park staff so that
3:01:43 they can take action and move this
3:01:46 forward
3:01:47 uh so really that's that's the expansion
3:01:51 on what Jeff provided that I can offer
3:01:54 and we hope you'll consider you know
3:01:57 what what our recommendations are uh
3:01:59 it's very there's a lot of options still
3:02:02 and if you if you go back and look at
3:02:04 those uh sketches that methune prepared
3:02:07 uh the idea was
3:02:11 it's still early
3:02:13 we don't really know what exactly we
3:02:15 want we would say we're ordering from a
3:02:18 menu what we're what we want to order
3:02:19 but we wanted to give you some options
3:02:23 um see what you know the council thinks
3:02:25 you could take it from say the The
3:02:28 Pedestrian Park which has that I think a
3:02:32 more obvious economic driver and and
3:02:35 public impact and see how far you want
3:02:37 to carry in or maybe you want to do a
3:02:40 portion of that
3:02:41 hopefully to completion as part of our
3:02:44 recommendation and then do apply some of
3:02:46 that money somewhere else and that's
3:02:48 also an example of why we left the dog
3:02:51 park in the in the list because you may
3:02:55 want you know sort of that that other
3:02:57 item somewhere that you may so decide
3:03:00 um and the the one other part of this
3:03:04 that really seemed to gel was in
3:03:06 addition to the economic but this
3:03:08 project really seems like an accelerator
3:03:10 that would tie in with the rest of the
3:03:14 future improvements planned for Memorial
3:03:16 Park really coming from the other side I
3:03:19 guess from the East whereas this sort of
3:03:21 comes from the southwest
3:03:22 and you know eventually you know there's
3:03:24 hopefully going to be a you know a
3:03:25 golden spike driven in the middle and
3:03:27 the project completed
3:03:29 uh so that's I guess what I can add and
3:03:32 I'm here also I think in case there's
3:03:34 any questions and thank you again for
3:03:37 your time
3:03:40 Chris thank you so much for those those
3:03:43 um thoughts and additions and and
3:03:46 um certainly your your great work uh
3:03:48 thank you Tisha for putting that slide
3:03:50 back up if you could go
3:03:52 um next slide actually the next slide
3:03:55 after that I'm going to quickly cover
3:03:56 next steps and then we'll go back to the
3:03:58 open for Council questions discussion
3:04:01 um so just taking a look at next steps
3:04:03 and taking a look at the Timeline
3:04:05 um again as we really in Earnest looked
3:04:09 at project scoping and and these cost
3:04:10 considerations here the last couple
3:04:12 months here we are in October
3:04:14 um bringing the rationale back to you
3:04:16 and and really seeking some some
3:04:18 feedback and guidance are we are we
3:04:19 headed in the right direction is this
3:04:21 something that you could support
3:04:23 um looking ahead should this be
3:04:25 something you want to add within your
3:04:28 budget adoption budget approval as Chris
3:04:32 said we want to begin doing some of that
3:04:34 final scoping to really identify uh
3:04:37 where we would make this four million
3:04:39 dollar investment within that that
3:04:41 strategic opportunity that that the park
3:04:44 board is recommending so that we can be
3:04:46 jumping right into design
3:04:48 and permitting and construction
3:04:50 documents to make sure that we hit that
3:04:54 all-important timeline of construction
3:04:56 completion by the end of of
3:04:58 2024. something else Chris added just
3:05:01 again the big kudos to the park board
3:05:03 but Jennifer Fink her work and and the
3:05:06 work with the methune team was just
3:05:09 fantastic in terms of really shepherding
3:05:13 this and beginning to to really help us
3:05:16 to to take shape so Tisha may be back to
3:05:19 the to the prior slide again I'll just
3:05:22 you see the questions here thanks so
3:05:25 much for for listening uh council
3:05:27 president I'll turn it back over to you
3:05:28 and um
3:05:30 these questions
3:05:32 fantastic well first I want to say
3:05:35 thanks for the great presentation and
3:05:37 thanks Chris for coming in and giving
3:05:40 your information on what the park boards
3:05:43 conversation was like that's really
3:05:45 really valuable so at this point we've
3:05:47 got questions and then we'll see if we
3:05:51 have any Community questions before
3:05:53 going into deliberation
3:05:55 um councilmember Mertz
3:05:58 director Watling hi uh what would you
3:06:01 say if you were given the elevator pitch
3:06:03 on on this park proposal what are like
3:06:08 how would you what are we going to get
3:06:11 for 10 million bucks on an acre
3:06:14 like like what's what's the elevator
3:06:16 pitch for the 10 million dollar
3:06:17 investment
3:06:21 and you're speaking to all three of
3:06:23 these if all three of those were
3:06:24 completed yes correct I mean there's
3:06:26 sort of a it's a vision of a connected
3:06:29 system
3:06:30 I think what this would represent is a
3:06:34 a public space and a public Plaza and a
3:06:37 public park that would complement and
3:06:40 help cement the the economic Vitality of
3:06:43 Old Town and the economic Vitality of
3:06:46 Front Street
3:06:48 um and and create a a public space
3:06:50 that'll last for Generations on for
3:06:53 Issaquah
3:06:54 and the amenities there was uh there was
3:06:58 there was a water feature
3:07:01 uh potentially there was a flame feature
3:07:04 there was uh a uh public uh shelter what
3:07:09 were the features
3:07:13 yeah some shelter amenities uh some some
3:07:15 game space and gameplay uh within the
3:07:18 Senior Center Plaza
3:07:20 um I think the the the entirety of the
3:07:23 investment really represents a a
3:07:26 gathering space
3:07:28 um if I could add I think what this
3:07:30 represents
3:07:32 um is maybe something different than
3:07:34 what you would think of as a traditional
3:07:36 Suburban
3:07:38 City Park it's not a city park with a
3:07:42 a field a lawn a play area and a
3:07:46 restroom it's really more of a
3:07:51 an urban park space
3:07:54 if you've spent time say in in Whistler
3:07:58 or other places this would this would
3:07:59 reflect a village stroll right the the
3:08:02 the whole area is a public park and it's
3:08:05 a place you want to you want to hang out
3:08:07 and gather it helps to showcase the
3:08:10 depot and some of the historic Heritage
3:08:13 of of Issaquah that's a little longer
3:08:15 than an elevator speech thank you
3:08:20 councilmember hunt thank you
3:08:23 um part of one of these components is
3:08:26 reimagining of the eckhouse I wondered
3:08:30 if you could give some context around
3:08:31 the current use or lack thereof of the
3:08:35 eckhouse and its status
3:08:39 the the building is Residential Building
3:08:40 it's at the corner of Confluence Park if
3:08:42 you could speak to its current situation
3:08:44 please
3:08:46 yeah absolutely
3:08:48 um thank you for that question so the
3:08:50 eckhouse has never really been used for
3:08:52 public uh use
3:08:54 um I think since the the park was born
3:08:56 since the house was built
3:08:58 um Mark was born Park was built
3:09:02 um it has not been used as as public
3:09:05 space and so that is that's currently
3:09:07 the the case and the status with that I
3:09:09 I think a lot of since my time here sort
3:09:13 of this opportunity and need to identify
3:09:15 what could a public use be of that of
3:09:18 that space is is needed a number of
3:09:21 years ago you may recall there was a
3:09:23 small arson event on the back porch uh
3:09:26 that created some smoke damage
3:09:29 facility staff went through the
3:09:32 insurance claim we've secured the
3:09:34 building
3:09:35 actual improvements have not been done
3:09:38 until we sort of identify though we've
3:09:41 received the claim
3:09:43 um Investments have not really been been
3:09:45 made on that
3:09:46 um space or then anterior space until we
3:09:50 really identify what we want future use
3:09:53 of that of that space or that structure
3:09:56 structure to be any transition any
3:09:59 creation of that into a public space
3:10:01 even as a building requires some some
3:10:04 rather significant investment and really
3:10:07 retrofitting a community use facility
3:10:11 instead of at its current residential
3:10:14 code and residential facility
3:10:20 okay at this point I'm not seeing any
3:10:23 other questions so I'm gonna open it up
3:10:25 to public comment in case we have any
3:10:28 public members online there's nobody in
3:10:31 person
3:10:35 members of the public on the line with
3:10:37 us so if you would like to make comments
3:10:39 on this topic please
3:10:40 let us know by raising your hand or
3:10:43 sending me the host a chat
3:10:52 and I don't see anyone indicating a
3:10:53 desire to speak
3:10:59 now's time for a little bit of
3:11:02 conversation on this deliberation so it
3:11:06 sounds like we've been presented with
3:11:10 um several different options
3:11:11 councilmember D Michelle do you I want
3:11:13 to talk about kind of how we frame this
3:11:15 conversation is that what your comment
3:11:18 or question is about no okay then I'll
3:11:20 I'll hold you for uh all of that so
3:11:24 um it it sounds like the park board has
3:11:28 first of all recommended that the four
3:11:33 million dollar Community investment
3:11:34 strategy Park project
3:11:36 be focused on Veterans Memorial with The
3:11:40 Pedestrian Park Depot Park and Senior
3:11:42 Center Plaza so I think I want to start
3:11:45 there and see if anybody wants to
3:11:48 broaden out beyond that or if we want to
3:11:52 go down and narrow into that and choose
3:11:56 the 4 million so councilman or council
3:11:59 member D Michelle do you want to start
3:12:01 on that
3:12:03 and then we'll go to council member hunt
3:12:06 yeah I would love to start on that and I
3:12:08 hope my voice
3:12:10 holds out long enough here
3:12:14 uh this was just an amazing encounter
3:12:17 for me
3:12:19 um to find this information in my packet
3:12:22 and I'll explain why
3:12:26 I don't know if any of you remember a
3:12:28 fellow named Michael Johnson
3:12:31 um Michael uh was a very active member
3:12:34 of our community
3:12:36 um he was an artist uh he was a downtown
3:12:39 resident he was very involved with the
3:12:42 Issaquah Historic Society and he and
3:12:45 Greg spranger
3:12:47 put together many of the Traditions that
3:12:50 we now accept as just part of being
3:12:52 Issaquah it was Michael and Greg's
3:12:56 working on those so he passed away about
3:13:01 six years ago
3:13:03 and really gave his heart and soul to
3:13:06 the City of Issaquah so a long time ago
3:13:09 Michael came to me I told you he was an
3:13:12 artist he came to me and he had a
3:13:15 drawing that he had put together of
3:13:17 pedestrian Park
3:13:19 and he this was when I was on the Arts
3:13:22 commission and he had this beautiful
3:13:24 vision for pedestrian Park
3:13:27 and I think if I could Channel Michael's
3:13:31 thinking about it he wanted a space that
3:13:35 well first of all was a beautiful
3:13:37 setting on that corner of Sunset and
3:13:40 Front Street which is our busiest
3:13:42 intersection
3:13:43 and uh he he saw a place where people
3:13:47 would gather a community place also
3:13:50 where we could have art we could have
3:13:52 drama uh we could have wonderful murals
3:13:56 um it would just be a great introduction
3:13:58 and then he too saw this pathway going
3:14:03 to the depot and then to the senior
3:14:06 center and making this just a beautiful
3:14:09 way to bring all of that together but he
3:14:13 really was focused on that pedestrian
3:14:15 Park so it was amazing to me to see the
3:14:19 vision that was put together and that
3:14:21 the parks board approved which really
3:14:24 contains all of the elements that he saw
3:14:26 I don't know I think I'm thinking about
3:14:28 15 years ago that he put a lot of time
3:14:31 and thought into and that he actually
3:14:33 had done a detailed drawing of which is
3:14:36 very close to what we're looking at
3:14:38 tonight so I just wanted to bring that
3:14:40 to your attention
3:14:42 um I think that uh every one of these
3:14:46 projects is just beautiful
3:14:48 um wonderful projects uh I really like
3:14:51 the dog park Jeff I do think we're more
3:14:54 we are more than a one dog bark town
3:14:58 but uh uh I would love to see this
3:15:02 vision of uh improvements at the corner
3:15:06 of front and Sunset and a really
3:15:08 important Gathering Place for the
3:15:10 downtown and Old Town area brought to
3:15:14 life as Michael envisioned it so I
3:15:18 support the park boards recommendation
3:15:21 and I support focusing the first uh
3:15:26 investment in that pedestrian part and
3:15:30 by the way I think we're talking about
3:15:31 four million dollars not 10 million
3:15:33 dollars so just the 4 million is what we
3:15:36 have to spend so anyway thank you for
3:15:39 indulging me in that and that the little
3:15:43 talk but it was pretty emotional to see
3:15:47 this drawing and this Vision that really
3:15:50 Michael had 15 years ago and
3:15:53 it couldn't be any closer it's just it's
3:15:56 just amazing it's a beautiful Vision so
3:15:58 thank you
3:16:00 thank you and then we've got
3:16:02 councilmember hunt and then Deputy
3:16:04 council president Hall
3:16:07 well I think that the materials that
3:16:10 were provided and the work that was done
3:16:11 by the staff in the Parks Board really
3:16:14 is a great jumping off point for these
3:16:16 conversations it was
3:16:19 um it was important to me that we have
3:16:22 that kind of level of analysis for these
3:16:24 different Investments and I think it
3:16:27 exceeded my expectations it was a really
3:16:29 it was really great to read through that
3:16:32 chart and understand all the rationale
3:16:35 for the different projects and then you
3:16:38 know understanding the history of why
3:16:40 the creek Corridor sort of turned into
3:16:42 this dog park but I think that uh it's
3:16:45 it was really well documented the
3:16:48 process and I really appreciated that so
3:16:49 I wanted to start with that one of the
3:16:52 things that stood out to me is I do have
3:16:54 two small kids we really like that
3:16:56 little corner of Confluence which is one
3:16:58 of our most popular beautiful parks and
3:17:01 that's a very
3:17:03 natural
3:17:05 seeming playground with a big Rock and
3:17:09 less traditional playground you know
3:17:12 colorful it's it's more sort of Blends
3:17:14 in and um what's what also stands out
3:17:17 though about that corner is that there
3:17:19 is this house that has visible fire
3:17:22 damage boarded up on that corner of our
3:17:25 very beautiful Park and it has no no
3:17:28 public purpose and it's a city building
3:17:31 um so for me
3:17:33 that this it seems to me we are waiting
3:17:36 for the opportunity to reimagine that
3:17:40 um to to take care of that because our
3:17:43 anchor Parks plan everything about our
3:17:45 Park strategic plan is about taking care
3:17:46 of our our beautiful Park assets that we
3:17:49 have and maintaining them and improving
3:17:51 them and making sure they're available
3:17:52 to the public and so what stood out to
3:17:54 me is that here we have a plan and we
3:17:56 have funding to um to reimagine that
3:18:00 eckhouse to have it be a respectful
3:18:03 reimagining and but also in character
3:18:06 with the rest of the park and also make
3:18:07 it a space that could be used by the
3:18:09 public so I would like to expand the
3:18:12 scope to consider that the eckhouse in
3:18:14 particular is I believe about 1 million
3:18:16 to 1.4 million dollars that was the
3:18:18 estimate for that portion and I really
3:18:21 think if we're prioritizing the things
3:18:23 that need to be the things that are in
3:18:26 the most need for change
3:18:29 um I I think of that house because again
3:18:33 a very visible corner of one of our our
3:18:36 most beloved and very well used Parks
3:18:39 it's right next to a playground and it's
3:18:41 aborted up building with fire damage so
3:18:43 I would like us to consider that
3:18:44 reimagining I did also really like the
3:18:48 um the plans on The Pedestrian Park uh
3:18:52 when director Watling said it's it's
3:18:54 more of a visual barrier I have I
3:18:56 experienced it that way too I think many
3:18:58 people probably don't really think of it
3:19:01 as a park
3:19:02 um and so you know that reimagining
3:19:04 that's another case where I think
3:19:06 there's a big impact because it's
3:19:08 currently in need of that that change to
3:19:11 make it really fully
3:19:14 facilitate that public use that would
3:19:17 provide that Community benefit so I'm
3:19:19 I'm supportive of that I'm supportive of
3:19:21 using the majority of this funding in
3:19:25 the way that the Parks Board recommended
3:19:26 but I would I would strongly urge us to
3:19:30 consider addressing the EC house
3:19:33 especially now that we have such a
3:19:34 thoughtful creative and um and a plan
3:19:38 that it that would
3:19:39 make that publicly accessible as well as
3:19:42 in character with the rest of the park I
3:19:44 just thought that was great and it would
3:19:46 be such an improvement
3:19:49 Deputy council president Hull and then
3:19:51 council member Mart I'll be super quick
3:19:53 because I completely agree with the two
3:19:55 previous speakers so and I really
3:19:57 appreciated the Parks Board
3:20:00 um mindfulness of the intent behind arpa
3:20:03 being economic stimulus and drivers of
3:20:06 economic recovery post pandemic so it's
3:20:09 definitely well aligned with the park
3:20:10 board recommendation of investment in
3:20:13 Veterans Memorial Consolidated Park and
3:20:15 of the three projects of the
3:20:18 consolidator park I think it's clear
3:20:20 based on some of the reasoning that's
3:20:21 already been said that the greatest need
3:20:23 greatest impact of that funding is
3:20:25 pedestrian Park and I see that being
3:20:31 well anyways sorry it's getting late
3:20:33 um and then also speaking of greatest
3:20:35 need greatest impact the Eck houses and
3:20:38 as another good example so if there's a
3:20:39 way to do the two of them I think those
3:20:42 are the two
3:20:43 um that would make the most sense to use
3:20:45 art for funding on things
3:20:49 councilmember marks thank you madam
3:20:51 council president
3:20:53 well uh I think the park board did a
3:20:57 very thoughtful
3:20:58 effort in listing out uh the various
3:21:01 benefits of potential Investments of
3:21:03 money uh I'm I'm not there on the on
3:21:08 this plan for really any of the three
3:21:10 elements around the downtown part
3:21:15 um this is the I mean we've already done
3:21:17 around with pedestrian park right we we
3:21:19 made an investment four or five years
3:21:22 ago to transform uh pedestrian park it
3:21:26 wasn't it wasn't millions of dollars but
3:21:28 it was an effort to open it up and make
3:21:31 it a more usable space so this would be
3:21:34 this would be round two of that effort
3:21:36 um I realized we're talking about four
3:21:38 million dollars right now but the
3:21:39 division of this of these three
3:21:41 interconnected parks for for 10 million
3:21:43 I I I don't see 10 million worth of
3:21:46 benefit to it
3:21:48 um you know pedestrian Park is a is a
3:21:50 quarter square acre I mean it's a it's
3:21:53 one or two lots in a subdivision and in
3:21:56 a in a heavily
3:21:58 um commercial area
3:22:00 um and then I just see it as like it's
3:22:03 basically all spaces that are either
3:22:05 already green or it's like a five foot
3:22:08 wide where The Pedestrian walk is behind
3:22:11 pedestrian Park
3:22:12 um and then it's pulling out some rail
3:22:14 sections but it's all stuff that's
3:22:16 already public land and I and I didn't
3:22:19 hear an amenity that would be
3:22:22 commensurate I'd be very excited about
3:22:23 the dog park by the way I think that's a
3:22:25 great idea and that's a that's an
3:22:27 amenity that the public has asked us for
3:22:28 that we haven't been able to put
3:22:30 together I think that's a great idea
3:22:32 um but to spend you know to to move
3:22:35 towards a vision where we spend 10
3:22:37 million on this and don't get any
3:22:38 Marquee benefit you know I think of
3:22:40 spending a million and getting a skate
3:22:42 park right uh or or again this this dog
3:22:45 park those those are amenities that that
3:22:47 enrich
3:22:49 um the lives of our of our community and
3:22:51 I I don't see this uh I just I just
3:22:54 don't see this as a 10 million dollars
3:22:55 worth of benefit to the community
3:22:57 uh I I I don't want to say that we
3:23:01 should go look at Confluence um because
3:23:03 I understand why the Parks Board wanted
3:23:06 to look in this area so in the spirit of
3:23:09 um honoring their you know direction to
3:23:13 look in this area
3:23:14 um I just I don't think this this is
3:23:16 ready and and unfortunately doesn't
3:23:18 represent 10 million dollars worth of
3:23:20 benefit to me at all if I if you if you
3:23:23 had told me how how much should those
3:23:24 improvements cost I would have guessed
3:23:26 two right not ten thanks
3:23:31 foreign
3:23:33 councilmember Joe any
3:23:36 comments no
3:23:40 council member Joe and thank you
3:23:45 my kids are 12 and 15 now and um you
3:23:49 know I would take them to all the
3:23:51 different parks in town
3:23:53 and uh some of the
3:23:56 you know some of the the equipment was
3:23:58 old sometimes and some of it was Rusty
3:24:00 and you had to be careful they didn't
3:24:01 get tetanus or what what have you you
3:24:04 know and so I I certainly uh agree with
3:24:07 my fellow council member
3:24:10 Hunts on the need to have some spaces
3:24:14 where where the kids can can play
3:24:16 because parks are in my mind for for
3:24:19 kids primarily so I I would like to see
3:24:24 um take a swing and doing an investment
3:24:27 in Confluence Park that makes the
3:24:30 eckhouse actually usable for our
3:24:34 citizens and gives a second picnic area
3:24:36 in that Park I've been to the park when
3:24:41 there is a birthday party going on in
3:24:44 you know the the barn area and then
3:24:47 I don't have anywhere to eat my lunch or
3:24:49 what have you so I eat on a bench which
3:24:52 is fine but if I had a family there it
3:24:54 would be nice to have a second place to
3:24:56 to go
3:24:59 also I think the the equipment that gets
3:25:02 upgraded in Confluence Park will be an
3:25:05 improvement for the kids that haven't
3:25:08 seen new equipment since I think
3:25:10 veterans was was done
3:25:12 if you've been to Lake Sammamish State
3:25:15 Park you've seen the new park that the
3:25:16 friends of
3:25:18 Lake Sammamish did there and it's just
3:25:20 it's marvelous in terms of the great
3:25:21 things that can be done with parks in
3:25:24 limited spaces I think we have an
3:25:27 opportunity to to make that happen what
3:25:29 I think I would like to see is given
3:25:31 cost overruns and the way that supply
3:25:34 chain is uh is going right now is take
3:25:38 Confluence Park and Rainier Trail dog
3:25:41 park that's what I heard over and over
3:25:44 again when I'm out in the community
3:25:45 doorbell and we need a we need a dog
3:25:47 park the first time you came around in
3:25:49 2000 I told you we needed a dog park and
3:25:52 now it's 2021 why don't we have a dog
3:25:54 park so I've heard it for 20 years along
3:25:57 the way so my inclination would be to
3:26:00 take Confluence Park and Rainier Trail
3:26:01 Dog Park uh 3.65 on the top end there
3:26:06 could be additional cost overruns there
3:26:09 we're probably going to get to four you
3:26:12 know and if we don't we send 200 or 300
3:26:14 back to the federal government but we
3:26:15 spent most of it and we did some things
3:26:17 that are good for the community to get
3:26:19 our kids out and get our
3:26:22 regular citizens out with their dogs in
3:26:24 the in the in the outdoors and and I
3:26:27 think we've done a good service to the
3:26:29 city but that would be my preference for
3:26:31 this package thank you
3:26:36 so I'm gonna see if I can get to myself
3:26:39 and council member Ray before going into
3:26:41 a second round with you councilmember D
3:26:44 Michelle
3:26:46 um do you want me to go ahead council
3:26:48 member
3:26:50 um I am inspired by council member uh
3:26:54 um because
3:26:55 um the one thing that I've heard is we
3:26:57 need a dog park we need a dog park and
3:26:59 we need a dog park and we talk about
3:27:01 maybe we're a two dog park town or maybe
3:27:03 we're a three dog park town but we're
3:27:06 not even a one dog park town and so I
3:27:08 guess if I was to prioritize
3:27:10 um that's what I hear the public saying
3:27:12 they really really want
3:27:14 um I think that the you know the space
3:27:18 down on Sunset and you know pedestrian
3:27:21 Park is nice but I guess what I'm
3:27:23 binding up on was the criteria that said
3:27:25 we want to do something we can complete
3:27:27 and though you can complete pedestrian
3:27:29 part you can't complete pedestrian Park
3:27:31 and Depot Park and the plaza around the
3:27:34 the senior center with four million
3:27:37 dollars and so what we're really saying
3:27:39 is we're going to just take a chunk of
3:27:40 this and it feels incomplete to me so
3:27:44 given that criteria of so we're going to
3:27:47 do something that's complete it would
3:27:49 make more sense to invest in Confluence
3:27:51 Park and the dog park and get those done
3:27:53 than it would be to take the first bite
3:27:57 of a of a 10 million dollar
3:28:01 partner or uh Improvement in the
3:28:04 downtown area
3:28:09 okay I'm going to throw mine in here and
3:28:11 what I'm hearing is a whole lot of
3:28:13 difference coming out of this
3:28:20 I don't see three million dollars worth
3:28:22 of benefit in what is being proposed in
3:28:25 Confluence Park but I do see a huge
3:28:29 amount of benefit from what is proposed
3:28:31 with Veterans Memorial and a dog perk
3:28:35 um I think the idea of
3:28:38 taking something that with Veterans
3:28:41 Memorial which has so far been
3:28:43 successful for you know Sports and field
3:28:48 and has a great playground
3:28:51 has a senior center has an activated
3:28:55 space for
3:28:57 businesses and being able to connect
3:29:02 much of that albeit not being able to
3:29:05 complete all portions but I think seeing
3:29:09 that as a
3:29:12 um walkable Urban
3:29:15 area is really important as a way to
3:29:19 create a space I think the argument that
3:29:25 this is arpa funding and meant to help
3:29:28 with you know business and financial
3:29:31 recovery
3:29:32 gives Credence to that idea of that
3:29:37 space and you know
3:29:40 personally sometimes when I want a
3:29:43 little Urban space like that I have to
3:29:45 drive up to Kirkland to get it so I I'd
3:29:49 like to see something like that here I
3:29:52 think we have a a great space for it
3:29:55 that's already connected to the
3:29:57 businesses and doesn't give us you know
3:30:02 I really appreciate the Parks Board
3:30:04 talking about hey we don't want to do
3:30:06 something that we would necessarily have
3:30:09 to do again or which would interrupt the
3:30:11 idea of being able to do the full vision
3:30:15 of something I think there's quite a bit
3:30:17 more that could be done with Veterans
3:30:19 Memorial but I I think either the depot
3:30:22 park or the Senior Center Plaza and The
3:30:24 Pedestrian park or The Pedestrian Park
3:30:27 and the dog park
3:30:28 any of those create a full sense of one
3:30:33 area that provides a benefit
3:30:37 and keeps us within budget and spends
3:30:40 our money
3:30:43 with all of that I think we're into
3:30:45 round two so council member do Michelle
3:30:52 uh thank you the point that Council the
3:30:55 council president Walsh just made was
3:30:57 the one that I was also going to make
3:30:59 arpa funds are supposed to be for
3:31:01 economic development and when uh you
3:31:05 look at the position of where uh
3:31:07 pedestrian Park is and the other
3:31:10 um uh have been a decent I would throw
3:31:12 in the the dog park in there as well
3:31:14 that's where the economic development
3:31:17 piece is going to be really important
3:31:20 and certainly could turn that space into
3:31:22 even a more usable space for all kinds
3:31:26 of tourism activities and art activities
3:31:29 and so forth I just need a clarification
3:31:32 uh because I have not seen really any
3:31:37 change to pedestrian Park configuration
3:31:40 in the 35 years that I've lived here so
3:31:43 did we I mean I know we cut down a big
3:31:47 about two or three years ago that was in
3:31:51 the way there but do have we put a major
3:31:53 investment into pedestrian Park in the I
3:31:56 I am not aware that there was any work
3:31:58 done in pedestrian Park so I would
3:32:01 presume that that's going to be that
3:32:03 space would be opened up
3:32:05 um that it would be a a big you know
3:32:09 Channel back to the depot and the senior
3:32:12 center and
3:32:15 um the visual barrier that is there
3:32:18 would be taken out I think all of that
3:32:20 would happen I think I you know I just
3:32:23 think it would be beautiful and I think
3:32:25 it would be absolutely in that in the
3:32:28 line of Economic Development which is
3:32:30 what the arpa funds are supposed to be
3:32:32 spend times thank you
3:32:36 yeah council member Mertz we spent I
3:32:39 don't know somewhere between a hundred
3:32:41 and three hundred thousand dollars
3:32:42 something like that we took out a bunch
3:32:45 of features that
3:32:47 um we had concerns about people sleeping
3:32:49 behind
3:32:50 um we opened up the plaza visually we
3:32:54 took out a whole bunch of greenery we
3:32:56 made it so that adjacent business owners
3:32:58 could put uh
3:33:01 uh tables into that space which didn't
3:33:04 exist previously so that was that was
3:33:06 the effort it wasn't millions and
3:33:07 millions of dollars but it was some oh
3:33:09 and I see the deputy City administrators
3:33:11 there with her multi-colored background
3:33:15 foreign
3:33:16 Deputy City administrator did you want
3:33:18 to add in any comments there
3:33:21 uh yeah uh councilmember Marts is
3:33:24 correct uh this occurred um following
3:33:27 the work of the Old Town Vitality task
3:33:30 force
3:33:31 um and was in advance of some of the
3:33:33 streetscape improvements that you've
3:33:35 been seeing accomplished over the years
3:33:37 the city provided some of that some of
3:33:41 those tables and chairs that you see out
3:33:42 there now and also expanded the patio so
3:33:46 that uh we could have more people sit
3:33:48 out there for lunch and picnics and
3:33:50 those types of things but everything
3:33:51 else just to add those elements that
3:33:54 that occurred
3:33:55 um I want to say and maybe Jack can
3:33:57 confirm some around five years ago maybe
3:34:00 six years ago somewhere somewhere like
3:34:01 that it must have been a little bit
3:34:03 longer Andrea I I arrived in 2016 and
3:34:06 that happened before me okay
3:34:10 better yeah
3:34:14 okay any other round two comments
3:34:20 uh councilmember hunt I have a question
3:34:22 so um in our budget there is money for a
3:34:25 dog park
3:34:27 um there's pko 18 is 513
3:34:30 000 approximately so
3:34:34 if we
3:34:36 does that
3:34:38 funding would that become a dog park
3:34:41 regardless of this decision tonight or
3:34:43 would that not happen
3:34:46 um I I had some trouble understanding
3:34:48 because there is the Community Fund
3:34:49 money that's in the budget and then
3:34:50 there's some of the projects that could
3:34:51 potentially be funded by the community
3:34:53 uh fund so if you could explain that
3:34:58 that would be great
3:35:00 yeah I will take it I'll take a crack at
3:35:02 that that's the the joy of parallel
3:35:04 budgeting and Community work in terms of
3:35:07 identifying potential of Investments so
3:35:10 you're absolutely right the the park
3:35:12 project identified for dog park
3:35:15 um does not have an identified location
3:35:18 so given some of the recent work we've
3:35:21 been doing with the park board and
3:35:23 identifying
3:35:25 um that former Skate Park area that
3:35:28 we've seen so popular on the dog park
3:35:32 um as part of this this arpa
3:35:33 conversation
3:35:35 um again if it's if it's council's
3:35:37 pleasure to
3:35:41 award
3:35:43 um approve uh the the capital funding
3:35:45 for that dog park that those dog park
3:35:47 funds could be used to construct this
3:35:52 dog park that you've seen tonight
3:35:55 um at the proposed former Skate Park
3:35:59 and would not necessarily if that was
3:36:01 the case would not need the arpa funding
3:36:05 to uh to do that project
3:36:11 okay so if we didn't if we chose if we
3:36:16 theoretically didn't choose to fund the
3:36:18 Rainier Trail Dog Park then there would
3:36:20 this this funding for pko 18 would still
3:36:23 be budgeted and would still go towards a
3:36:26 dog park in 2023 is that right
3:36:30 could correct and if we chose to fund
3:36:33 the dog park then we would definitely
3:36:34 have a dog park
3:36:36 if we chose to fund the dog park in the
3:36:39 Parks right the Rainier Trail Dog Park
3:36:42 specifically then that would be a dog
3:36:44 park at Rainier Trail dog park and we
3:36:46 pretend we would have this other funding
3:36:48 still budgeted unless we changed that to
3:36:51 be a different dog park is that right
3:36:54 correct correct so again for as we were
3:36:58 preparing the capital budget and the
3:37:00 budget process while at the same time
3:37:02 doing this community work with the park
3:37:04 board a bit of a parallel universe
3:37:07 happened
3:37:08 um so you're right in some ways it
3:37:10 becomes color of money so it do you see
3:37:13 an opportunity of utilizing our funding
3:37:15 to do the dog park if there's a decision
3:37:17 to use the arpa funding in some other
3:37:21 investment then you could consider the
3:37:23 budgeted dog park money and the capital
3:37:25 budget to be used to to build that dog
3:37:28 park at the skate park okay thank you
3:37:36 any other round two
3:37:42 councilmember Mertz uh so I'm not sure
3:37:45 how we resolve this question uh I think
3:37:49 I heard uh something less than four
3:37:52 votes to spend the money on the plan as
3:37:55 put forward I heard something less than
3:37:57 four votes to uh bring it to Confluence
3:38:00 I heard my own weird vote which is to
3:38:02 still do something in that area but do
3:38:04 something different uh so I I don't know
3:38:07 how I think that I it sounds to me like
3:38:10 the will of the body is to spend the
3:38:11 money on parks in some capacity but that
3:38:17 we can't quite agree on how it should be
3:38:19 spent other than it seems like everybody
3:38:21 seems to think the dog park is a great
3:38:22 idea right so um I don't know how you
3:38:25 get a resolution we're clear it's not
3:38:27 like anybody's arguing shouldn't make
3:38:29 some Park improvements right we're just
3:38:30 arguing about you know option A versus
3:38:33 at option b or version a slash B right
3:38:37 so clearly there's some willing to do
3:38:40 something the hour is late I don't know
3:38:41 if we can resolve it this evening
3:38:44 um but the body clearly wants to do
3:38:46 something but I don't think we're going
3:38:48 to get there this evening is my guess
3:38:52 Mr President yes
3:38:55 I certainly agree with councilmember
3:38:57 March I think it's uh a little after 10.
3:39:00 uh we appreciate you taking this
3:39:02 additional item on
3:39:04 um you know there will be there is space
3:39:06 on the agenda for the 17th next Monday
3:39:09 we currently have
3:39:12 um the final budget deliberations and
3:39:14 then a discussion regarding the
3:39:16 legislative agenda uh and then the item
3:39:19 that was not heard this evening so we
3:39:22 could put it on for next week and see
3:39:24 where you all are at we'd like to keep
3:39:27 this before you until there's a decision
3:39:29 but I think if it takes a few weeks
3:39:32 as long as we would hopefully have this
3:39:34 by budget adoption
3:39:37 which is what a month you know
3:39:40 a few days short of a month from now
3:39:43 that'd be great
3:39:46 sounding good as I see a yawn and a uh
3:39:51 yep I I think we're probably pretty good
3:39:54 with that Deputy council president Hull
3:39:56 you know I was just gonna say I'm happy
3:39:58 to postpone it to another meeting or to
3:40:01 just do a quick thumbs up thumbs down on
3:40:03 all the projects too so whatever the
3:40:05 council wants to do
3:40:07 and the administration would just
3:40:09 suggest I think you you've given a
3:40:11 couple rounds of discussion great
3:40:13 presentation great input from the park
3:40:15 board
3:40:17 you got your operating Capital budgets
3:40:20 all pretty well buttoned up you've
3:40:22 earned your money tonight so I think you
3:40:24 can you can go home and
3:40:26 um we can bring this back again next
3:40:29 yeah I'm a little bit loopy I think I
3:40:30 might thumbs up everything at this point
3:40:33 so let's let's table that let's say that
3:40:37 we have yes received a great
3:40:40 presentation really appreciate Parks
3:40:43 Board member staying on and all of the
3:40:46 other staff that have supported this
3:40:49 um so I think at this point we are going
3:40:52 to table any uh recommendations on that
3:40:57 and carry it on to the next meeting and
3:41:00 we will adjourn at 10 11 pm thank you
3:41:04 everyone

Attendance

Council / Members (7)
Barbara de Michele (Attended Virtually)
Zach Hall
Victoria Hunt
Russell Joe
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Lindsey Walsh, Chair