Park Board · Monday, January 22, 2024 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of November 27, 2023

packet pp.3–4

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 11-27-23 Park Board Minutes CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave November 27, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Park System Plan Update - Public Survey Summary, (I,D)

45 min · Robin Spear, Park Planning and Development Manager · packet pp.5–20

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

JANUARY 22, 2024 | PARK BOARD Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

Recreation Services Update and Highlights, (I,D)

30 min · Brian Berntsen, Recreation Services Manager · packet pp.21–30

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Staff report:

services that build community, families and residents. • Recreation, Arts and Human Services programs through direct services and partnerships

5. REPORTS

Youth Representative's Report

packet pp.31–34

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Staff report:

Park Planning and Development • Park System Plan update – completion and adoption • Hillside Park and Mitigation – completion • Rainier Trail Dog Park – completion • Pedestrian Park / Senior Center Plazas – bid award and construction kick-off • Confluence Park Plaza and Ek House phase 1 – bid award and construction kick-off • Sammamish Cove Park – WSDOT and Hyla project coordination • Tibbetts Valley Park Cell Tower transition • ROW Landscaping Standards collab with PW and CPD – review and revisions • Strategic Acquisitions – on-going • Development Review and coordination with CPD • Project and infrastructure coordination with PW

Director's Report

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Chairperson's Report

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0:01 ↗ 701 and I'll call the meeting to

0:04 ↗ order um let's see take roll you said

0:08 ↗ Katie Bell has called in in

0:12 ↗ absence okay uh Andrew eloquin I see

0:17 ↗ you I'm here uh do we have Nicholas Lee

0:21 ↗ on anywhere don't see him online right

0:23 ↗ now okay and then H David lose here Tim

0:29 ↗ Motley

0:31 ↗ still not online yet yet there's not

0:38 ↗ online uh Zach you said was not gonna

0:41 ↗ join

0:48 ↗ right and then Andrew

0:52 ↗ Myers um we don't have anybody online

0:55 ↗ right there's no one

0:58 ↗ online Brad and ran are the remaining

1:06 ↗ two well we can proceed and see who

1:08 ↗ shows up uh the

1:13 ↗ um we do have a quorum just in case we

1:16 ↗ need to do anything but we don't have

1:17 ↗ any action items really today it's

1:19 ↗ mainly informational and

1:21 ↗ discussion uh so first thing um did

1:24 ↗ everybody have a chance to read and

1:25 ↗ review the

1:28 ↗ minutes anybody have any corrections or

1:31 ↗ items that need to be

1:35 ↗ edited okay with no Corrections on

1:37 ↗ behalf of word I'll approve the

1:39 ↗ minutes and uh now it's time for public

1:43 ↗ comments if we have

1:45 ↗ anybody we do not

1:49 ↗ okay it's

1:51 ↗ [Laughter]

1:53 ↗ fine um okay well uh we did get an email

1:56 ↗ from Connie okay uh

2:01 ↗ I have found myself receiving comments

2:03 ↗ from her and my initial reaction has

2:05 ↗ been what an opposition and her

2:09 ↗ challenging me has made me think of many

2:11 ↗ different things in many different ways

2:13 ↗ and so I encourage you to always give

2:15 ↗ her

2:16 ↗ consideration so you could if you can

2:19 ↗ please read her

2:20 ↗ email

2:24 ↗ um we'll now move into regular business

2:27 ↗ and the first item is is the park system

2:31 ↗ Plan update presented by Robin thank you

2:35 ↗ very much yeah we're we're working hard

2:37 ↗ and we're continuing through the process

2:40 ↗ with the park system Plan update and we

2:43 ↗ had our survey closed I believe it was

2:46 ↗ in

2:47 ↗ November um after the Oldtown meeting we

2:49 ↗ wanted to have um a chance to have one

2:53 ↗ public meeting where at where the boards

2:54 ↗ were up and we could get public comments

2:56 ↗ and talk to people in person which was

2:58 ↗ awesome um unfortunately Jeff isn't here

3:00 ↗ today we're going to give him a break

3:02 ↗ he's on vacation in Hawaii so I'll be

3:05 ↗ presenting um but I hope everyone had a

3:08 ↗ chance to kind of read through the

3:09 ↗ survey results digest those a little bit

3:12 ↗ I'm hoping for a really good discussion

3:14 ↗ um we're reading it interpreting it one

3:16 ↗ way but we' really like your input and

3:19 ↗ feedback and and see what you're seeing

3:21 ↗ with the comments and with the

3:24 ↗ responses let's dig in and I'm just

3:27 ↗ going to go through a quick whoops

3:32 ↗ thank you uh kind of an update and recap

3:35 ↗ of what we've done so far and where

3:37 ↗ we're at with the park system plan so we

3:40 ↗ looked at Park classifications and

3:42 ↗ reclassifying park types uh dependent on

3:45 ↗ what we're seeing and what we're

3:47 ↗ anticipating um you know what land is

3:50 ↗ left uh looking at what our Park systems

3:53 ↗ are like and how they're performing

3:55 ↗ right now what you know we may need in

3:57 ↗ the future so then we had a review of

4:00 ↗ the 201819 goals and policies which is

4:02 ↗ great and that's moving forward as well

4:04 ↗ with the planners uh we looked at draft

4:07 ↗ goals and policies in October we Revis

4:10 ↗ those goals and policies in November um

4:12 ↗ I went with Valerie to the PPC review

4:15 ↗ and they had just one question that I'd

4:17 ↗ like to bring up later as we're looking

4:19 ↗ through uh survey

4:21 ↗ results um and they had one tweak uh for

4:24 ↗ the goals and policies in December and I

4:28 ↗ believe that goes back through

4:30 ↗ through the

4:32 ↗ safety we'll bring it back to the um

4:35 ↗ parkboard ad hoc committee for another

4:36 ↗ review and then from there it then goes

4:38 ↗ to the city council um Safety Services

4:42 ↗ and Parks

4:44 ↗ committee hard to remember that one hard

4:46 ↗ to remember and then to council for

4:48 ↗ approval so you still get chances to

4:51 ↗ look at that comment on

4:53 ↗ that if you have anything else you want

4:55 ↗ to add there's plenty of time for that

4:58 ↗ and now we're up for the public survey

5:01 ↗ summary uh we opened that in October

5:03 ↗ closed that in November so was open up a

5:06 ↗ little bit longer than we typically do

5:07 ↗ which was great and then we'll go

5:10 ↗ through and we'll review the survey

5:12 ↗ findings and the data this

5:16 ↗ month so we had a really really good

5:19 ↗ response we were really happy with the

5:20 ↗ response uh we were shooting for

5:23 ↗ 653 for a confidence level of 99% we

5:26 ↗ ended up getting 744 responses

5:30 ↗ so quite a bit more than we anticipated

5:32 ↗ which was great our top neighborhoods

5:34 ↗ that we heard responses from was a

5:36 ↗ squawk Highlands squawk Mountain Oldtown

5:39 ↗ and South Lakes mamish

5:42 ↗ neighborhoods um demographics it was

5:44 ↗ pretty wide we know we we wanted to hit

5:47 ↗ the youth more so we kind of asked for

5:49 ↗ the Youth Advisory Group to um give us

5:53 ↗ some of their input and feedback but

5:55 ↗ really 25% were 35 to 44 23% 55 to 64

6:01 ↗ 22% was over 65 18% 45 to 54 so I feel

6:06 ↗ like we did get a nice rounded

6:09 ↗ demographic and age group which is

6:11 ↗ important what is that compared to the

6:14 ↗ actual

6:16 ↗ demographic thought I'd have to back

6:18 ↗ check on

6:20 ↗ knowes

6:22 ↗ yeah no great question and I I'll get

6:24 ↗ that for you for the next meeting or

6:26 ↗ shoot that out after this yeah

6:30 ↗ and then uh yeah 27% lived in isqua for

6:33 ↗ more than 20 years so they're really

6:34 ↗ familiar with the area and 20% at least

6:37 ↗ from 11 to 20 years so uh we feel pretty

6:41 ↗ confident that the people that responded

6:42 ↗ knew and used the system really well

6:45 ↗ certainly neighbors didn't really

6:48 ↗ participate or order I'm both in the

6:50 ↗ north

6:51 ↗ northwest area um Talis I was hoping to

6:55 ↗ hear more from Talis uh not a lot of

6:57 ↗ responses there and we we tried to

7:00 ↗ Target as they were coming in we tried

7:01 ↗ to get out there and Target those but

7:04 ↗ just not a lot of feedback

7:06 ↗ fortunately so if that's something you

7:08 ↗ feel that we really need to to broaden

7:11 ↗ that a little bit more we can send that

7:13 ↗ back out again get more data

7:15 ↗ or um somehow get more feedback and make

7:21 ↗ it a little more well-rounded for the

7:23 ↗ new at the very least I thought it be

7:25 ↗ interesting just to kind of see yeah if

7:27 ↗ there's certain things

7:30 ↗ the surface

7:32 ↗ thator yeah yeah good point and I'll see

7:36 ↗ if they can break that down bit

7:44 ↗ further yeah we did I didn't put that

7:46 ↗ demographic there but um it is in the

7:54 ↗ survey so I kind of did a recap of of

7:58 ↗ the highlights and really why residents

8:00 ↗ are using the park system and we found

8:04 ↗ that the highest responses were

8:06 ↗ providing places for people to maintain

8:08 ↗ and improve their health and wellness

8:10 ↗ and fitness which is great because

8:13 ↗ that's why a lot of people live here

8:14 ↗ that's why a lot of people move here um

8:17 ↗ encouraging people to spend out time

8:18 ↗ outdoors in nature providing trails and

8:21 ↗ Pathways for improved mobility and

8:24 ↗ connectivity and enhancing economic

8:27 ↗ Vitality attractive place to live and

8:29 ↗ work and do business and environmental

8:32 ↗ purposes of the parks and open open

8:34 ↗ space

8:35 ↗ system is there anything else you felt

8:38 ↗ that was really coming out and kind of

8:42 ↗ grabbing your attention of why people

8:44 ↗ were using the park

8:45 ↗ system what they enjoyed about the park

8:51 ↗ system this seems to capture what I read

8:53 ↗ I just think

8:54 ↗ there's Brewing battle between tennis

8:57 ↗ and

8:58 ↗ pickleball that was pretty evident in

9:00 ↗ the in the responses in the data and

9:02 ↗ we're finding we we've been to a couple

9:04 ↗ of

9:06 ↗ um I say areawide not conventions but

9:10 ↗ discussions about that up yeah we do we

9:14 ↗ do and Julie will be attending that one

9:16 ↗ but yeah it's it's a universal problem

9:18 ↗ that everybody's having

9:20 ↗ so

9:22 ↗ board hi Tim hey so there's a problem

9:26 ↗ with the length there's about five

9:28 ↗ people sitting in

9:30 ↗ uh teams meeting with another link

9:33 ↗ question mark in all of our minds about

9:34 ↗ how come there was nobody showing up but

9:37 ↗ um we figured it out and and HTI managed

9:41 ↗ to fix that in about a minute or so so

9:44 ↗ thank you uh We've took roll you guys

9:48 ↗ all get added in no no no trouble for

9:50 ↗ you no

9:52 ↗ detention um and we approved the minutes

9:55 ↗ uh but real quick do any of you online

9:57 ↗ have any corrections that are

10:00 ↗ needed no look good okay so with that

10:04 ↗ the minutes are approved again and then

10:08 ↗ uh now we'll switch over it looks like

10:10 ↗ we have a couple people from the

10:12 ↗ community for uh public comments so if

10:16 ↗ you can state your name and your comment

10:19 ↗ please try to keep it to about five

10:22 ↗ minutes so we'll start with

10:28 ↗ Connie

10:29 ↗ hi Connie Marsh of course I'm up on

10:33 ↗ squawk um the you got a couple of emails

10:38 ↗ from me and so then interestingly I just

10:42 ↗ got a draft of the climate and

10:45 ↗ environmental comprehensive plan chapter

10:49 ↗ language and I realized what's sort of

10:53 ↗ tweaking me here on

10:56 ↗ this there there's

10:59 ↗ the overarching city and then there's

11:03 ↗ the park

11:05 ↗ stuff and there's a bunch of what is

11:08 ↗ being addressed in the Parks plan that

11:13 ↗ is actually overarching City

11:17 ↗ stuff and

11:20 ↗ there's some stuff in the over arching

11:23 ↗ City stuff that focuses narrowly on

11:26 ↗ Parks but is not necessarily and Parks

11:30 ↗ plan and this doesn't this doesn't work

11:34 ↗ I don't think that the parks department

11:37 ↗ can govern the entire city and so there

11:41 ↗ needs to be the

11:44 ↗ authority given where where the parks

11:47 ↗ department has the

11:48 ↗ responsibility the

11:51 ↗ um Urban Forest management plan is

11:54 ↗ Citywide integrated Pest Management is

11:57 ↗ Citywide the concept of green storm

12:02 ↗ water going into Parks is a blend of the

12:06 ↗ two it's it's actually a Citywide thing

12:11 ↗ if the city decides they want to put

12:13 ↗ storm water in your Parks the parks

12:15 ↗ department is not going to be able to

12:16 ↗ take a stand and say keep your storm

12:18 ↗ water out of our Parks unless you set up

12:22 ↗ some sort of system to analyze that and

12:25 ↗ feasible and applicable is not the

12:27 ↗ language that is going to get you there

12:31 ↗ so um when I look oh there's one more it

12:37 ↗ says tree preservation on designated

12:40 ↗ bike and pedestrian corridors it says in

12:43 ↗ the overarching plan I don't have any

12:46 ↗ idea what that means within the parks

12:49 ↗ plan because I have never heard of such

12:51 ↗ of a map uh so when you are looking at

12:55 ↗ the general comments that are flowing

12:57 ↗ through which in this situation are wow

13:00 ↗ we really want to protect our

13:01 ↗ environment and the reason that we love

13:04 ↗ our Park system is that we can go out in

13:08 ↗ nature

13:10 ↗ um I think you need to try to decide

13:14 ↗ what is actually the parks Lane for

13:16 ↗ authority and

13:18 ↗ responsibility and I think that needs to

13:20 ↗ be a discussion that is closest to mind

13:25 ↗ because the community is going to think

13:27 ↗ that the parks is everything

13:29 ↗ but Parks Board can Define what you

13:33 ↗ think it should be now I hope this makes

13:35 ↗ sense to you it's just this problem has

13:38 ↗ been happening in the city for 25 years

13:41 ↗ ever since I've been doing this that um

13:45 ↗ these responsibilities sort of waffle so

13:48 ↗ there you go there is my input thank

13:52 ↗ you thank you thanks

13:55 ↗ Connie um da do you want to give public

13:58 ↗ comments

14:01 ↗ let me take myself off mute can you hear

14:03 ↗ me okay yes we can my name is Steve

14:07 ↗ Perera I've lived in isqua since 2008 as

14:10 ↗ a homeowner which means the bank owns

14:12 ↗ the house but that's a different topic

14:15 ↗ so when I W walked through the agenda I

14:18 ↗ just had a couple thoughts I wanted to

14:20 ↗ share that're not necessarily coherent

14:21 ↗ or deep thoughts but I'll share with you

14:24 ↗ and hopefully you guys

14:26 ↗ can take actions as needed

14:30 ↗ uh the first has to do with what I what

14:33 ↗ are called culturally modified trees and

14:36 ↗ I've talked about this topic before

14:38 ↗ there are trees that have been modified

14:39 ↗ by the first peoples in the area while

14:42 ↗ I'm not sure that isqua has

14:44 ↗ any uh this is kind of being considered

14:47 ↗ linked with the historical trees and I'm

14:50 ↗ looking for something

14:51 ↗ more definitive or defining that

14:54 ↗ actually protects culturally modified

14:56 ↗ trees not just recognizes them puts them

14:59 ↗ on a list I think there should be some

15:02 ↗ his some legal protections that are

15:04 ↗ granted for culturally modified trees

15:07 ↗ that may or may not necessarily apply to

15:10 ↗ other historical trees I think they

15:12 ↗ should be able to add more than three

15:15 ↗ per year especially when we start

15:18 ↗ out that's just a force distribution and

15:20 ↗ it makes no sense there should be some

15:23 ↗ criteria whatever that criteria is

15:25 ↗ allows them to be met the second has to

15:28 ↗ do with wording in

15:31 ↗ the language where it talks about the uh

15:35 ↗ green necklace in hisa SL connectivity

15:39 ↗ and I'm just kind of concerned we

15:40 ↗ haven't really talked

15:42 ↗ about the green necklace for a long time

15:44 ↗ and doesn't get the weight and

15:47 ↗ consideration and funding approval for

15:50 ↗ preserving

15:52 ↗ naturally beautiful or or likeside areas

15:55 ↗ that it did when we first decided to go

15:58 ↗ become a become a regional growth Center

16:01 ↗ and we're losing that connectivity and

16:02 ↗ that connection and focus in the isqua

16:06 ↗ language because we simply seem to stop

16:09 ↗ talking about it and stop prioritizing

16:11 ↗ it and we're prioritizing a lot of other

16:13 ↗ things in Parks but we're not talking

16:16 ↗ about that we're just losing the will it

16:19 ↗ seems uh third thought I didn't see the

16:23 ↗ proposed new expansion of the swimming

16:25 ↗ pool area as a topic or area

16:29 ↗ I'm not personally opposed to the pool

16:31 ↗ but my concern is that it's going to

16:33 ↗ crowd out funding for

16:36 ↗ other uh Parks areas or city funding for

16:41 ↗ things like the green necklace and we're

16:42 ↗ losing that Focus

16:44 ↗ again I I think it's going to be true

16:46 ↗ both of the cost to build a pool and the

16:49 ↗ cost

16:50 ↗ to uh make the

16:54 ↗ park uh pool facility operational at the

16:58 ↗ same area and same Staffing coverage

17:01 ↗ we're going to lose that Focus again so

17:02 ↗ I just want to keep that as before us I

17:06 ↗ think those were kind of the three

17:07 ↗ topics uh thank you for all you do and

17:09 ↗ thank you for

17:10 ↗ listening uh I appreciate

17:13 ↗ it we'll go back on

17:16 ↗ mute thanks Steve thank

17:20 ↗ you okay um before we knew you were all

17:23 ↗ out there in the the Netherland there um

17:27 ↗ we uh had started with regular business

17:29 ↗ which was a

17:31 ↗ report by uh

17:34 ↗ Robin about the where is it sorry the

17:37 ↗ correct

17:39 ↗ term the park system plant update and so

17:43 ↗ Robin started into that I think she's

17:44 ↗ gonna back up and redo that a bit we

17:47 ↗ were just a minute or two

17:50 ↗ in yeah luckily we got only three slides

17:53 ↗ in so you didn't we'll recap

17:57 ↗ those

18:05 ↗ all right take two take two thanks for

18:08 ↗ the patience everyone so just a recap

18:11 ↗ where we've been with the park Sy Plan

18:13 ↗ update we did everyone looked at the

18:15 ↗ park classifications we reclassified and

18:18 ↗ added some new park types in September

18:22 ↗ we reviewed the 2018 2019 goals and

18:25 ↗ policies uh draft goals and policies

18:28 ↗ brought forward in 2023 October 2023 we

18:32 ↗ looked at that and revised those goals

18:34 ↗ and policies again in November

18:36 ↗ 2023 and then Valerie and I brought

18:39 ↗ those to the PPC to review and revise

18:41 ↗ those goals in December of 2023 and the

18:45 ↗ PPC had one question that I'll I'll

18:46 ↗ bring up later because I think that's

18:48 ↗ kind of related into some of our themes

18:51 ↗ and I'll get your opinion on that um and

18:54 ↗ now we're looking at the public survey

18:56 ↗ summary we Clos we open that in October

19:00 ↗ we closed that in November and we've

19:02 ↗ been looking at that data reviewing that

19:04 ↗ data kind of with the team and and with

19:07 ↗ the city and with Valerie and um we

19:11 ↗ really want to get your opinion on on

19:13 ↗ what you're seeing and the feedback

19:15 ↗ you're seeing from the survey because

19:16 ↗ we're looking at it from one lens and I

19:19 ↗ know you'll be looking at it from

19:20 ↗ another lens so it'll be great to get

19:22 ↗ that

19:24 ↗ perspective so to recap our survey

19:27 ↗ sample size we looking for at least

19:30 ↗ 653 respondents and we got a total of

19:33 ↗ 744 so is a really good feedback good

19:37 ↗ size and we feel pretty comfortable with

19:39 ↗ the data that came in uh the top

19:42 ↗ neighborhoods that responded were isqua

19:44 ↗ Highlands walk Mountain Oldtown and

19:46 ↗ South Lake samamish were the top and

19:48 ↗ just I just looked up um some of the

19:50 ↗ lower ones were tibit Creek Valley at 1%

19:53 ↗ Newport 1% Providence Point so you know

19:57 ↗ definitely least some something that we

20:00 ↗ can look at in the future is really

20:02 ↗ targeting uh Talis was one I wish we had

20:05 ↗ more from so we can look at going back

20:07 ↗ to them too and getting at the next

20:10 ↗ community meeting maybe getting some

20:11 ↗ more input from them I did look up so

20:14 ↗ earlier guys before you all joined

20:16 ↗ online I asked a question about the

20:17 ↗ demographics and how that compared to

20:19 ↗ ISA in total and so I do think something

20:22 ↗ we want to look at in demographics at

20:23 ↗ least in the age breakout that I see

20:25 ↗ here is our sample size is skewing

20:27 ↗ heavily older than Isa in total and so

20:31 ↗ that does I think when I read some of

20:32 ↗ the responses I think that's definitely

20:34 ↗ reflected especially when you think

20:36 ↗ about things like sports fields or the

20:38 ↗ number of uses of playgrounds all that

20:40 ↗ stuff so I think it's worthwhile to keep

20:42 ↗ in mind um it looks like 37% of

20:46 ↗ our population is over the age of 50 um

20:50 ↗ in what I'm seeing in census rec.org um

20:53 ↗ in comparison to this what what we got

20:56 ↗ here 23

20:59 ↗ 228

21:01 ↗ so very

21:05 ↗ skewed and it would have been nice to

21:07 ↗ hear more from the youth we try really

21:08 ↗ hard yeah that's way government surveys

21:12 ↗ go so I'm not saying it's anything wrong

21:13 ↗ I'm just

21:14 ↗ say um evaluating what we hear we have

21:18 ↗ to really keep in mind how under

21:19 ↗ represented um the population um really

21:23 ↗ 44 and under is in this

21:27 ↗ survey

21:29 ↗ and then 27% lived in is aqua more than

21:31 ↗ 20 years and 20% from 11 to 20 years and

21:35 ↗ I I do want to say just based on that it

21:37 ↗ was really great to hear comments from

21:39 ↗ the seniors too um when we asked that

21:42 ↗ last question if there's anything else

21:43 ↗ so we do know that they're paying

21:45 ↗ attention they're out there and we do

21:48 ↗ need to address their needs as

21:52 ↗ well and then just as a recap of why

21:55 ↗ residents use the park system we really

21:57 ↗ want to know

21:59 ↗ why they get out there why people are

22:01 ↗ interested in getting outdoors and

22:03 ↗ specifically using the parks and the

22:05 ↗ Trails um and one of the highest ones

22:09 ↗ 87% believe that providing places for

22:12 ↗ people to maintain and improve their

22:14 ↗ health wellness and fitness was critical

22:16 ↗ for the park system uh encouraging

22:19 ↗ people to spend more time outdoors in

22:20 ↗ nature 78% believed to be a high of

22:24 ↗ importance and providing trails and

22:26 ↗ Pathways for improved mobility and

22:28 ↗ connectivity was at

22:29 ↗ 62% uh enhancing economic Vitality an

22:33 ↗ attractive place to live and work and do

22:34 ↗ business

22:35 ↗ 59% and environmental purposes of the

22:38 ↗ parks and open space

22:40 ↗ system so um all the purposes we listed

22:44 ↗ in question number eight were really

22:46 ↗ over overwhelmingly related um as

22:49 ↗ important and essential so just a

22:51 ↗ takeaway from that is quite a few people

22:54 ↗ feel and are interested in the park

22:56 ↗ system love to get out outside and

22:58 ↗ Outdoors so we want to make sure that

23:00 ↗ we're again representative of all age

23:02 ↗ groups all abilities when we're

23:05 ↗ designing new parks are renovating new

23:06 ↗ parks and

23:10 ↗ trails so this is this will be the fun

23:12 ↗ part and this is where I really want to

23:14 ↗ pick everyone's brain um we had six

23:16 ↗ questions that we sent out um and again

23:18 ↗ we're looking at it for a particular

23:20 ↗ lens when we're doing planning and

23:22 ↗ design and development but uh we'd

23:24 ↗ really like to get your take and I'll

23:26 ↗ just run through the the questions one

23:28 ↗ by one and get your feedback but just

23:31 ↗ based on the discussion and observations

23:33 ↗ you've seen in the survey results how do

23:36 ↗ you feel the system is currently being

23:39 ↗ used by

23:41 ↗ residents and what you've heard um you

23:44 ↗ know just as a parkboard member what

23:45 ↗ you've seen in your own neighborhoods

23:48 ↗ how do you think the system is currently

23:49 ↗ being

23:56 ↗ used

23:59 ↗ which is

24:02 ↗ great do you think we're Meeting those

24:04 ↗ goals from the first slide of of really

24:07 ↗ like hitting the environmental Mark

24:10 ↗ hitting the health and wellness Mark

24:11 ↗ getting PE people outside do you think

24:13 ↗ our system is

24:14 ↗ currently meeting some of those things

24:17 ↗ that the community said they feel like

24:19 ↗ are important getting

24:22 ↗ outside yes I think there what I what I

24:26 ↗ see or observe when I go to the Parks is

24:28 ↗ there's a lot of family involvement

24:30 ↗ there's a lot of sports involvement

24:32 ↗ there's a lot of Youth involvement the

24:34 ↗ trail system is very impressive what

24:37 ↗ would have of course I can see places to

24:40 ↗ improve everything but I do think it's

24:41 ↗ being used right now by well for the for

24:45 ↗ the the younger group you're worried

24:47 ↗ about that's who I see the part and then

24:51 ↗ the trails are just

24:56 ↗ everybody yeah I'll follow up on that I

24:59 ↗ I agree uh I think the park system in

25:02 ↗ isqua is outstanding uh I've lived all

25:05 ↗ over the country I've never lived a

25:07 ↗ place that had a park system that I

25:10 ↗ thought was as well done well thought

25:13 ↗ out and has the variety that this

25:18 ↗ community has which is part of the

25:20 ↗ reason I'm on the parks boort quite

25:21 ↗ frankly uh to help keep it that way and

25:24 ↗ support it you know to even get better

25:26 ↗ but you know I see people using the

25:28 ↗ parks all the different ways that

25:29 ↗ everybody else does we see kids on the

25:31 ↗ sports fields we see the courts being

25:34 ↗ used we see the trails being used we see

25:36 ↗ playgrounds being used um yeah so the V

25:40 ↗ the variety of offerings is

25:44 ↗ uh unsurpassed uh from places I've lived

25:49 ↗ and things were clean well-kept

25:52 ↗ so you know

25:54 ↗ I I'd say let's be careful because

25:57 ↗ because what we have is a really good

25:59 ↗ thing and uh let's keep it pointed in

26:02 ↗ the right direction I'm

26:04 ↗ done I think I would add I agree uh with

26:08 ↗ Tim on the outdoor spaces that I think

26:09 ↗ we do a real nice job with our outdoor

26:11 ↗ spaces um I think based on where where

26:14 ↗ I've lived in the past I think our

26:15 ↗ indoor spaces um are not as plentiful as

26:20 ↗ what I would be used to or the size of

26:21 ↗ the community so I of one Community

26:24 ↗ Center that has three gyms that is very

26:26 ↗ booked and not very open you know those

26:30 ↗ that's tough I know we talked about the

26:31 ↗ pool a little bit earlier in comments

26:33 ↗ but like one pool for the size of a uh

26:36 ↗ Community um a lot of these places I've

26:39 ↗ lived that are you know environments

26:40 ↗ where the winter is not great you know

26:42 ↗ there's indoor play places for kids or

26:44 ↗ there's tot times or there's a lot of

26:47 ↗ indoor that I think we're

26:53 ↗ missing and those program and those

26:56 ↗ activities were they were Park rated not

26:59 ↗ private entities well I even think like

27:01 ↗ Community Center like one Community

27:03 ↗ there three gyms like gym spaces like

27:06 ↗ courts enough for our

27:13 ↗ community is there anything within those

27:15 ↗ three that Health wellness and fitness

27:19 ↗ do you feel like certain parts of the

27:20 ↗ system activate those more than other

27:24 ↗ parts or do you feel like holistically

27:27 ↗ they

27:28 ↗ the system hits all three or or one Park

27:30 ↗ can hit all three or should one park or

27:33 ↗ one place focus on one versus the

27:41 ↗ other oh Brad go

27:45 ↗ ahead um well I don't know that how much

27:48 ↗ I'm going to be able to answer your

27:49 ↗ question directly Brenda but um or

27:53 ↗ um Robin

27:56 ↗ but

27:58 ↗ so um you know I think and we're going

28:01 ↗ to be talking about this a little bit

28:02 ↗ later but I mean I too agree that we

28:04 ↗ have a great Park

28:05 ↗ system I think the things that um come

28:09 ↗ out a little bit later that will help it

28:11 ↗ is this is the connection part of it

28:14 ↗ because I think it's in some respects

28:17 ↗ there's some disconnection where uh

28:21 ↗ people have to maybe drive to specific

28:23 ↗ parks for specific

28:25 ↗ reasons and and if it's close to where

28:28 ↗ their home is and they can walk to it

28:30 ↗ they might utilize the park more uh but

28:33 ↗ if if not they might not use the park at

28:36 ↗ all so you know I kind of think that

28:38 ↗ connection is really the the ticket here

28:40 ↗ to try and get some more utilization of

28:42 ↗ the parks where people can you know

28:46 ↗ access them better without maybe having

28:48 ↗ to drive to it and then not necessarily

28:50 ↗ even having a place to park so and some

28:53 ↗ of the amenities I mean I think and

28:55 ↗ we'll talk about that some more too but

28:57 ↗ I think with amenity improvements I

28:59 ↗ think that would increase some of the

29:01 ↗ usage of the parks

29:04 ↗ um I mean I think the quality is good I

29:07 ↗ think the system is good I just think we

29:09 ↗ just need

29:11 ↗ to uh you know work on it a bit to try

29:14 ↗ and improve what we already have rather

29:17 ↗ than maybe overextend oursel to build

29:19 ↗ new parks and I I think that comes out

29:20 ↗ in the survey as

29:25 ↗ well thanks

29:28 ↗ oh that's great that was one of my

29:29 ↗ questions if you feel people really need

29:31 ↗ to have vehicular access to enjoy the

29:34 ↗ park system or is it suitable enough for

29:37 ↗ walking from what you've

29:40 ↗ seen that connectivity we're really

29:42 ↗ working hard on that's going to be one

29:45 ↗ of our focuses in the new

29:48 ↗ future the problem in some respects

29:50 ↗ comes from you know all of us that live

29:52 ↗ up in the hillsides you know so you have

29:55 ↗ Highlands you've got squawk mountain and

29:57 ↗ so

29:58 ↗ to drop down into some of the you know

30:00 ↗ the more usable parks in the Central

30:02 ↗ Area you almost have to drive because

30:05 ↗ there's not really any uh any good way

30:08 ↗ of of walking to a lot of these and or

30:11 ↗ biking for that matter and

30:14 ↗ so um I think that's that's the

30:17 ↗ challenge is to be able to to manipulate

30:21 ↗ through these areas that have elevations

30:24 ↗ to deal with to be able to have access

30:26 ↗ in more U ation of of what we

30:31 ↗ have and and do you think the steep

30:33 ↗ slopes I'm sorry are going to be a a

30:36 ↗ barrier I was just GNA say aren't the

30:38 ↗ community Parks meant for that community

30:41 ↗ and do you want to get parking for all

30:44 ↗ the community Parks so everybody can go

30:46 ↗ there I thought the purpose was it was

30:47 ↗ for that community and a few of the

30:50 ↗ others but we don't advertise them or

30:52 ↗ provide parking or everything for the

30:54 ↗ whole city for every park right yeah yes

30:58 ↗ so we have Community Parks right so the

31:01 ↗ neighborhood parks are more built as

31:03 ↗ that they're for the neighborhood

31:05 ↗ there's not parking you know spaces

31:08 ↗ around them necessarily it's really for

31:10 ↗ that those neighborhoods versus our

31:11 ↗ community Parks which do have more

31:14 ↗ amenities our larger spaces do have that

31:16 ↗ parking and

31:20 ↗ the again can be approved but they've

31:23 ↗ got it and I don't know if that's what

31:25 ↗ you were saying Brad because I'm I kind

31:26 ↗ of get went to the the little

31:29 ↗ neighborhood parks we not trying to make

31:31 ↗ those into big Community

31:38 ↗ Parks was like in the comments at least

31:41 ↗ in sech know like you read a single

31:42 ↗ comment right right but you know stuff

31:45 ↗ about sidewalks which I know comes up

31:46 ↗ and that's not really our purview um so

31:48 ↗ we always bring it up and then you know

31:50 ↗ it's got to get pushed to somewhere else

31:51 ↗ on sidewalks but um to Brad's point on

31:55 ↗ accessibility even in those beity parks

31:58 ↗ um sidewalks is kind of dicey right like

32:00 ↗ you can't send your kid to the park on

32:02 ↗ some of the parks on S because and see

32:05 ↗ park right so there's all sorts of

32:08 ↗ issues so I don't know that seems to

32:10 ↗ always get quotequote parking lotted

32:12 ↗ from us I don't know where it needs to

32:14 ↗ go in the um government but that seems

32:17 ↗ to be if I was thinking about access

32:19 ↗ especially in the small

32:20 ↗ Parks understanding their sidewalks

32:22 ↗ would be big one the city I think right

32:25 ↗ now is really working on accessibility

32:27 ↗ which will mean improving the sidewalks

32:29 ↗ and adding sidewalks I don't know how

32:31 ↗ high that is in

32:32 ↗ there very much very much it is it's

32:35 ↗ happening um but you're you're not wrong

32:37 ↗ Marlene yeah sidewalks is definitely an

32:41 ↗ a a part of the connectivity that we all

32:44 ↗ as a city need to think about and look

32:46 ↗ at it is something that we have been

32:47 ↗ thinking about and looking at and also

32:49 ↗ working with our um counterparts and

32:51 ↗ public works as well um so good to hear

32:54 ↗ that we're all on the same page

32:57 ↗ could I ask a question about sidewalk

32:59 ↗ since it came up I live up on squawk

33:02 ↗ where the sidewalks are a real Patchwork

33:05 ↗ you know there's a block here there's a

33:06 ↗ block there it's doesn't interconnect

33:08 ↗ very well some a lot of places there's

33:11 ↗ no sidewalks it was my impression that

33:14 ↗ sidewalks would be outside the

33:16 ↗ jurisdiction of the parks system per se

33:20 ↗ uh is that not the case is that within

33:22 ↗ our

33:23 ↗ jurisdiction no you are correct it is

33:25 ↗ not within our jurisdiction

33:27 ↗ um sidewalks are very much not a Parks

33:30 ↗ thing but it's public works it's Public

33:32 ↗ Works um but as a department within our

33:36 ↗ city you know we we all want to work

33:38 ↗ together to reach the goals and and

33:40 ↗ sidewalks are important to being able to

33:43 ↗ connect our park so it's not something

33:44 ↗ that can be done in a vacuum I guess is

33:47 ↗ more what I

33:48 ↗ mean okay thank you explain it Tim yeah

33:52 ↗ thank you and what's great is now the

33:55 ↗ planning team the parks planning team is

33:57 ↗ being incorporated into those

33:59 ↗ discussions about those sidewalks and

34:00 ↗ multimodal paths and seeing how we can

34:03 ↗ create that connectivity in so they've

34:06 ↗ been really really generous and we've

34:08 ↗ been in I think three discussions now

34:10 ↗ for sidewalk so that's great

34:12 ↗ particularly up been in squat

34:15 ↗ too exactly as you know um we we were

34:20 ↗ looking at hillsides as a barrier and

34:22 ↗ that kind of goes to what brag was

34:24 ↗ saying earlier do you think that's still

34:27 ↗ uh the steep slopes there's still a

34:30 ↗ barrier even if there were a trail

34:32 ↗ connected or do you think people would

34:34 ↗ be happy to go up and down that

34:38 ↗ Hillside because we're we're we're

34:39 ↗ seeing some larger gaps but we're

34:41 ↗ understanding a lot of barriers to those

34:43 ↗ gaps and one of those is hillsides which

34:46 ↗ is very challenging for some some other

34:49 ↗ some love

34:51 ↗ it so the question build out more of the

34:54 ↗ trails on the hillside and see if they

34:56 ↗ come that's

34:58 ↗ right you think if if if that's

35:01 ↗ the place we need to make that

35:03 ↗ connectivity should it be on the

35:05 ↗ hillside or do you think people would go

35:07 ↗ around further just because it's easier

35:10 ↗ to

35:11 ↗ access so just point of clarification

35:13 ↗ you talking about Hillside Park per se

35:16 ↗ or hillsides in general hillsides in

35:18 ↗ general that have 40% or steeper slopes

35:22 ↗ okay got it again goes back to the

35:24 ↗ accessibility and making sure like and

35:27 ↗ we're thinking of we we're

35:29 ↗ thinking of the Highlands and getting

35:30 ↗ down um and making those connections we

35:33 ↗ need to make we just understand that

35:34 ↗ those might be a little bit

35:37 ↗ steeper I think wherever there's a trail

35:40 ↗ it's it's

35:42 ↗ steep existing Hillside we're going to

35:45 ↗ create a switch

35:47 ↗ back something that's going to be a more

35:49 ↗ moderated slope and I think whatever

35:52 ↗ people think is the most direct route is

35:53 ↗ what they will take whether it's

35:55 ↗ sidewalk or Trail MH they tend to do

35:58 ↗ that

36:00 ↗ right

36:04 ↗ okay anything else on how the system is

36:07 ↗ currently being

36:09 ↗ used that you're seeing okay um so our

36:14 ↗ our next question what is the quality of

36:16 ↗ the current system I think the feedback

36:18 ↗ that I saw was we're doing a pretty good

36:20 ↗ job Parks operations amazing work um

36:23 ↗ very

36:25 ↗ proactive um and quick to respond but I

36:28 ↗ wanted to get your take on how you feel

36:31 ↗ the quality of the

36:33 ↗ C the batim responses the one of the

36:37 ↗ trends I saw

36:39 ↗ was

36:41 ↗ um the infrastructure piece is

36:43 ↗ potentially one that's lacking it's like

36:45 ↗ the outdoor spaces are great this kind

36:46 ↗ of goes with the same theme that Marlene

36:48 ↗ was talking about of indoor versus

36:49 ↗ outdoor but you know wherever there's a

36:53 ↗ part that offers a bit more

36:54 ↗ infrastructure I was trying to remember

36:56 ↗ the name of it in our classification

36:58 ↗ classification system but the parks

37:00 ↗ where there's a field or there's

37:04 ↗ bathroom things like that where there um

37:09 ↗ there's comments about lots of bathrooms

37:10 ↗ being closed or the fields being

37:12 ↗ unusable season because they so some

37:15 ↗ type of modernization seems to be in

37:19 ↗ order with some of the the parts that

37:21 ↗ have a heavier

37:25 ↗ infrastructure that would be our

37:27 ↗ community par and I know some

37:29 ↗ neighborhood parks also the restes but

37:32 ↗ where the most variety of amenities and

37:34 ↗ the fields were would be the community

37:37 ↗ Parts yeah but upgrading those and

37:39 ↗ modern iing those I think would be good

37:43 ↗ okay yeah not just the facility side of

37:46 ↗ it but just again survey results stuff

37:48 ↗ to do at the park so not just in open

37:50 ↗ space but obviously pickle ball tennis

37:53 ↗ versus that but like volleyball courts

37:55 ↗ and you know all that stuff so it's just

37:57 ↗ building more infrastructure not

37:59 ↗ necessarily the facilities right or

38:01 ↗ stuff to for people to do when they get

38:03 ↗ to just more more variety in amenities

38:07 ↗ and Facilities yeah I mean I'll classify

38:08 ↗ as stuff to do right show bit of Park

38:11 ↗ what can I do

38:14 ↗ here can I piggy back off of that and

38:17 ↗ ask this is maybe outside of the um real

38:22 ↗ scope of this but H what are people's

38:25 ↗ thoughts on multi-use courts I know that

38:28 ↗ we have a few around in some of our

38:30 ↗ Parks I know the pick ball tennis

38:33 ↗ conversation that has had but outside of

38:36 ↗ that is there a general like yes I would

38:39 ↗ use that yes I think it's valuable um

38:41 ↗ given that we're talking about adding

38:44 ↗ more of the stuff to do within these

38:46 ↗ Community

38:47 ↗ Parks I think for a community park you

38:49 ↗ would need dedicated because it's for

38:52 ↗ the community and if it's a pickle ball

38:53 ↗ court it's going to be used 100% of the

38:55 ↗ time right there's going to if if you

38:56 ↗ put three or four of them together

38:57 ↗ there's going to be cars and people

38:58 ↗ waiting to play if it's more of the

39:00 ↗ neighborhood park like let's say

39:02 ↗ Blackberry Park you could do a multi-use

39:04 ↗ basketball tennis or pickle ball that's

39:06 ↗ servicing the neighbor right um again

39:08 ↗ that's just my

39:16 ↗ opinion the response is I'm kind of

39:18 ↗ looking at it right so it looks like the

39:20 ↗ multi-use and the single use were pretty

39:23 ↗ close for one service

39:27 ↗ mhm then our our dog park friends

39:31 ↗ yeah yeah that was another one where it

39:33 ↗ kind of Falls to that heavier

39:35 ↗ infrastructure type of thing where

39:37 ↗ you an actual feature there than yeah

39:42 ↗ but yeah artificial turf single use

39:45 ↗ multiuse dog

39:48 ↗ park and then I think it was the

39:50 ↗ restrooms right and restrooms are the

39:53 ↗ ones that sort

39:54 ↗ of and then improved Trail heads which

39:57 ↗ is a good

39:58 ↗ infrastructure so those all seem to rise

40:00 ↗ to the top at least in

40:01 ↗ this block chart of twoo few that I'm

40:04 ↗ looking

40:05 ↗ at although Community Gardens was kind

40:07 ↗ of high that that was the one that

40:10 ↗ popped out new for us that Community

40:12 ↗ Gardens came in

40:13 ↗ so which is

40:18 ↗ great

40:20 ↗ great is is the pool within the context

40:24 ↗ of what we're discussing here

40:27 ↗ um not fully I know we've talked about

40:30 ↗ facilities a little bit um but our our

40:33 ↗ Recreation facilities are not actually

40:35 ↗ within this park system plan the park

40:37 ↗ system plan is really just looking at

40:38 ↗ the parks trails and Open Spaces um we

40:41 ↗ will be talking about pool a little bit

40:43 ↗ in our Recreation services update so if

40:45 ↗ you have questions about that maybe we

40:46 ↗ can hold it till then um but that is

40:50 ↗ sort of a a different set of amenities

40:53 ↗ and and Facilities to this okay thank

40:56 ↗ you you I'll stand by okay and then

40:58 ↗ sorry

41:13 ↗ Andrew definitely not on the same level

41:15 ↗ asgs

41:20 ↗ and there were also comments about

41:25 ↗ Arts

41:28 ↗ um I think as far as quality of the pr

41:31 ↗ system it seems to say based on

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41:41 ↗ just projects um but

41:45 ↗ quantitatively based on the survey does

41:48 ↗ show that

41:52 ↗ over that respond that current

42:04 ↗ qualities I guess I I'm curious how you

42:07 ↗ feel just me being relatively new how

42:10 ↗ you feel the quality is relative to

42:12 ↗ other neighboring cities and Par

42:16 ↗ systems I think it's very

42:21 ↗ good I mean we're all biased right we

42:23 ↗ all live we're all is call residents we

42:25 ↗ we love it here yeah but when you when

42:27 ↗ you do drive it to like Redmond and you

42:29 ↗ see some of their Parks you're like

42:33 ↗ oh like you drive to R drive to

42:36 ↗ Woodenville you drive around the east

42:38 ↗ side we're not close yeah I mean it's

42:41 ↗ not close do you feel it's the size of

42:43 ↗ the park the amenities in the park

42:45 ↗ priorities too like one of the Beautiful

42:47 ↗ Things what people who like to live in

42:48 ↗ is they like the natural and they like

42:50 ↗ the trails and they like right so I

42:52 ↗ think we have maybe different priorities

42:53 ↗ and maybe that's okay but like somebody

42:56 ↗ like me who spends a lot of time in the

42:57 ↗ actual big parks and the ball fields and

43:00 ↗ the amenities like that's where you're

43:02 ↗ like wow yeah and the Gard somebody had

43:05 ↗ mentioned that today about the gardens

43:07 ↗ and flowers and that we could do a whole

43:09 ↗ lot more then you look at Redmond

43:12 ↗ and that's nice those might bigger but

43:15 ↗ like Woodenville even right like it's

43:16 ↗ smaller and you know they've they have a

43:19 ↗ lot

43:22 ↗ of it be interesting I knowledge for us

43:26 ↗ maybe Jeff can look at it um what is the

43:28 ↗ percentage of budget spent in isqua

43:30 ↗ versus those places right um are we

43:33 ↗ lower are we about the

43:35 ↗ same I imagine it's lower

43:38 ↗ but or me it's our just overall budget

43:41 ↗ of

43:42 ↗ the how are they able to support those

43:45 ↗ and rebuild and refresh as quickly as

43:47 ↗ they can

43:51 ↗ right that's a question could be

43:52 ↗ priorties like maybe our open space part

43:55 ↗ of our budget is really big and it's

43:57 ↗ we're taking it from planing fields and

44:00 ↗ I know Rex now I know Rex's a whole

44:01 ↗ different budget now I know why we

44:03 ↗ get so yeah

44:08 ↗ yeah and I think that was broken out

44:11 ↗ even in our our CIP budget for

44:13 ↗ operations of Maintenance has its own

44:16 ↗ dedicated funding so I think that's new

44:18 ↗ that started so just starting to develop

44:21 ↗ that and build that I think that's going

44:22 ↗ to make a big difference in the next

44:24 ↗ five years the other thing we've done

44:26 ↗ just finished last year or something is

44:28 ↗ Lake samish Park what's it

44:31 ↗ name the TR

44:34 ↗ or that's a state

44:40 ↗ par it and walk through it if we could

44:43 ↗ do anything like

44:45 ↗ that least one of our

44:51 ↗ parts

44:53 ↗ right okay um so last question here

44:57 ↗ number three why do residents use the

44:59 ↗ system we kind of had a recap of that

45:02 ↗ but I wanted to get your Tak your

45:05 ↗ opinion and the lens you're seeing in

45:07 ↗ the

45:12 ↗ survey sounds like it it keeps them

45:14 ↗ coming back into the system as well and

45:16 ↗ attracts new visitors

45:24 ↗ too

45:29 ↗ yeah

45:31 ↗ Brad well I just think that it's uh

45:33 ↗ depending on the person's um you know

45:36 ↗ what they want to accomplish you know a

45:38 ↗ lot of it is just passive usage for a

45:40 ↗ lot of our parks are just there to hang

45:42 ↗ out and relax and enjoy the nature and

45:44 ↗ all that you know and then there's

45:46 ↗ people that are going there for a

45:47 ↗ specific reason to participate in

45:49 ↗ something whether it's to walk their dog

45:51 ↗ or play tennis or whatever and so I mean

45:55 ↗ I think there's multiple usage that

45:57 ↗ people are getting out of the parks and

45:59 ↗ they're going to specific parks for

46:01 ↗ specific

46:02 ↗ reasons uh and each park has something a

46:05 ↗ little different to offer in that

46:07 ↗ respect so I mean I think the key is to

46:09 ↗ be able to have some enough diversity so

46:11 ↗ that you can really uh provide a variety

46:15 ↗ of different things for people so that

46:17 ↗ they and to have them know what those

46:19 ↗ things are at each of the parks so that

46:21 ↗ they can then go directly and to them

46:24 ↗ you know if you want to just hang out

46:26 ↗ and enjoy the creek you know you go to

46:28 ↗ Confluence Park you know if you want to

46:30 ↗ play ball a lot of times you go to

46:32 ↗ Tibbits and so I I think that each Park

46:35 ↗ kind of has its

46:37 ↗ own uh you know aspects you know that

46:40 ↗ people

46:44 ↗ enjoy and they're own

46:46 ↗ theme

46:49 ↗ right and do you think do you think the

46:51 ↗ system and what I've read in in the

46:54 ↗ survey and in the comments you know

46:56 ↗ we're very good at conservation it's a

46:58 ↗ high

46:59 ↗ focus um from the community do you think

47:03 ↗ we do a good system or we have a good

47:05 ↗ balance between the two right now is

47:07 ↗ that something you feel like we need to

47:09 ↗ improve one or the

47:14 ↗ other just it's always a Hot Topic it's

47:17 ↗ always challenging and we know it's

47:19 ↗ limited land availability it's going to

47:21 ↗ become more and more of a

47:24 ↗ challenge

47:26 ↗ conservation conservation and

47:30 ↗ Recreation active

47:33 ↗ Recreation it's a little bit easier to

47:35 ↗ incorporate the passive Recreation piece

47:37 ↗ into those that open space and crial

47:40 ↗ areas but when we have conflicting

47:43 ↗ interests or limited land space

47:45 ↗ available it's something we talk about

47:47 ↗ every single day how are we going to do

47:49 ↗ this how do we want to do this what what

47:51 ↗ priority do we put is each

47:54 ↗ other

47:58 ↗ there's be some balance in terms of

48:00 ↗ those to because all the opportunities

48:02 ↗ for the more

48:04 ↗ active

48:07 ↗ um contributions or changes to PR there

48:10 ↗ that footprint is already there so like

48:12 ↗ Tippets for example the not a blank

48:15 ↗ slate but it's already a bunch of ball

48:18 ↗ fields and sort of a suboptimal

48:20 ↗ configuration and things like that

48:23 ↗ where it doesn't seem like the biggest

48:26 ↗ tension is necessarily like where do we

48:29 ↗ develop versus conserve but for the the

48:33 ↗ areas that already exist how do we get

48:35 ↗ highest best used out of those

48:37 ↗ situations and I think the dog park is

48:40 ↗ one good example of okay the skate

48:42 ↗ Park's gone there's sort of this random

48:45 ↗ patch on the side of the trail what

48:49 ↗ could we do with that and you know it's

48:51 ↗ not really going to be a conservative or

48:54 ↗ Conservatory type of uh opportunity but

48:58 ↗ we could do put something there and make

48:59 ↗ it more useful for what it is so I think

49:02 ↗ that there's those type of opportunities

49:04 ↗ and same with like uh the depot and

49:06 ↗ Memorial where it's already developed

49:08 ↗ it's already active use but could we do

49:11 ↗ something more there um so I don't I

49:16 ↗ don't know if that answers your question

49:17 ↗ at all but it's kind of one the ways I

49:19 ↗ think about is like if there's already

49:21 ↗ something how can we up level make it

49:24 ↗ better prove it

49:27 ↗ especially if it's due

49:29 ↗ anyway like we thought about if Veterans

49:32 ↗ Memorial in tibits were used at the same

49:35 ↗ rate as Highland as Central

49:38 ↗ Park like that is getting people outside

49:41 ↗ to be

49:43 ↗ active but also whenever I drive you

49:46 ↗ know or go up there it's packed

49:48 ↗ everybody's using it for multi-use

49:49 ↗ things winter and summer they're you

49:53 ↗ know it's just always busy right now TI

49:55 ↗ we we've had the ball fields have been

49:57 ↗ covered since

49:59 ↗ September so those ball fields are being

50:01 ↗ only used by people that run their docks

50:05 ↗ around zero

50:13 ↗ use if we did I think if we did look

50:17 ↗ into some sort of like per capita

50:20 ↗ spending analysis and then maybe even

50:22 ↗ drill down into that and see how much of

50:25 ↗ that is on Green Space areas versus

50:29 ↗ active or organized Recreation

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50:33 ↗ areas I don't know what the answer is

50:35 ↗ going to be but I wouldn't be surprised

50:39 ↗ if we're almost this qu is almost more

50:42 ↗ challenged because we have so much Green

50:44 ↗ Space around us to try and connect and

50:47 ↗ incorporate uh whereas you know like if

50:49 ↗ you look at Kirkland um you know they're

50:52 ↗ not surrounded by a bunch of mountains

50:54 ↗ and Trail

50:56 ↗ and and you know you could say well we

50:59 ↗ have lak state park that contributes to

51:01 ↗ that but I think each of those

51:02 ↗ jurisdictions that other ones that were

51:03 ↗ mentioned also have their Parks like

51:05 ↗ Barrymore and um it's the one up there

51:10 ↗ by anyways it doesn't matter but you

51:12 ↗ know like Bridal Trails or something

51:14 ↗ like that so um I wouldn't be surprised

51:17 ↗ if we spend as much or very close to

51:21 ↗ what other jurisdictions do but we

51:24 ↗ really are stretch because we have so

51:26 ↗ many more opportunities and I think a

51:28 ↗ lot of desires especially if you read

51:30 ↗ the the raw the raw

51:35 ↗ comments yeah we definitely have some

51:37 ↗ physical constraint that other people

51:38 ↗ don't have it definitely feels like back

51:41 ↗ to Andrew's Point people are really

51:43 ↗ happy with our I don't know if we're

51:46 ↗ calling them passive use which seems

51:47 ↗ think material is passive use but you

51:49 ↗ know feels like people are happy with

51:51 ↗ that where people are less happy are the

51:53 ↗ where the things require infrastructure

51:56 ↗ and so if like that's sort of like a

51:57 ↗ macro thing to take away from this whole

52:00 ↗ survey I think coupled on top of the

52:02 ↗ fact that that survey even with you know

52:04 ↗ 63% people above 55 52% without kids in

52:08 ↗ their household it's still skewing that

52:10 ↗ much if we had a representative sample

52:12 ↗ I'd be really interested to

52:14 ↗ see um what those numbers would show up

52:21 ↗ as I think it would be interesting and

52:24 ↗ would be too much analysis I think about

52:26 ↗ it um it's also what is it that the park

52:30 ↗ system provides versus the private

52:32 ↗ sector right so especially if you're

52:34 ↗ looking at again the priorities of

52:36 ↗ busness and well-being and stuff like

52:38 ↗ that it's like do we expand the

52:40 ↗ community center fitness room or is

52:43 ↗ there already a substitute like 24-Hour

52:44 ↗ Fitness or 425 Fitness and how does that

52:47 ↗ balance out things and you know like the

52:49 ↗ pool it is literally the only pool for

52:51 ↗ Miles which is why when I had a

52:53 ↗ four-year-old who needs to learn

52:54 ↗ swimming I either woke up and had to get

52:57 ↗ clicking on the button within 30 seconds

52:59 ↗ or I'm going to YMCA and C that's that's

53:02 ↗ just the honest truth right so it's

53:04 ↗ being able to when you're planning see

53:06 ↗ what is out there in the private sector

53:07 ↗ which you know isqua happens to be a

53:09 ↗ wealthy area people can afford some of

53:10 ↗ the Alternatives um but it's also we

53:13 ↗ don't want to build out things that are

53:14 ↗ already out there right so just keeping

53:17 ↗ that in

53:19 ↗ mind that's a great Point

53:23 ↗ good good G move to the next set of

53:28 ↗ questions kind of look at our future

53:31 ↗ conditions and needs uh based on the

53:34 ↗ observations in the survey and what

53:35 ↗ we're thinking needs to be improved upon

53:38 ↗ uh what improvements do you think are

53:40 ↗ needed in the system and I know we've

53:42 ↗ kind of talked about that a little bit

53:44 ↗ but digging into that a little bit more

53:47 ↗ um is it is it more Partnerships and

53:49 ↗ balancing that um in the private sector

53:53 ↗ more or um you know is it trying to

53:58 ↗ renovate all the ball

53:59 ↗ fields what do you our biggest

54:02 ↗ improvements that we need to

54:08 ↗ do you mentioned in our plan the you

54:11 ↗ know Partnerships um and I think through

54:15 ↗ those Partnerships whether it's with the

54:17 ↗ state park or with and with the school

54:20 ↗ district that would seems like our most

54:24 ↗ efficient

54:25 ↗ Pathway to more athletic

54:29 ↗ fields there's space for them space

54:33 ↗ for place to make

54:35 ↗ them they're going to need lights to

54:38 ↗ make them usable and that's that's

54:40 ↗ controversial but we have a demand

54:43 ↗ that's

54:44 ↗ like internally under met and so that

54:49 ↗ that's important but it looks also like

54:52 ↗ from reading through all the comments

54:53 ↗ seems like we also you know one thing we

54:56 ↗ need to tackle is getting the tennis

54:59 ↗ people and the paper people to

55:03 ↗ be there's gonna have to be yeah be

55:05 ↗ friends there's gonna have to be a

55:06 ↗ system of you know how do they share

55:09 ↗ because you know great to be able to

55:12 ↗ have a bunch of dedicated pickle ball

55:13 ↗ courts and a bunch of dedicated tennis

55:15 ↗ courts but we probably don't have the

55:17 ↗ land and the re the money for that so

55:19 ↗ there's gonna have to be some sharing

55:20 ↗ and there needs to be some sort of a

55:22 ↗ system you know like I don't know what

55:24 ↗ it is but

55:25 ↗ whatever you're playing you get an hour

55:27 ↗ and then move on or something like that

55:29 ↗ and uh I played pickle Bal at a place in

55:31 ↗ s in Minnesota this summer that was had

55:34 ↗ a great system that I could we could

55:36 ↗ take offline at some

55:41 ↗ point Mee with other cities to talk

55:43 ↗ about man that would be great it was

55:45 ↗ busy I was like this is working like it

55:46 ↗ was busy and you had to wait but they

55:48 ↗ had like a system where you like put

55:49 ↗ your paddle in and then it was like when

55:51 ↗ one group was up and then that's how we

55:52 ↗ knew the next group had to go it was

55:54 ↗ like I don't know I was

55:57 ↗ like to hear there is a solution out

56:01 ↗ there maybe that getting both groups

56:03 ↗ together and they they need to work out

56:05 ↗ their own system specific for and

56:08 ↗ specific for the the courts that we

56:11 ↗ have you

56:13 ↗ good Brad I see you got your hand

56:16 ↗ up yeah I think that uh for the most

56:19 ↗ part we're pretty underutilized in terms

56:22 ↗ of our relationship with um partners

56:25 ↗ and I think we could really um advance

56:29 ↗ that if we had some sort of a liazon

56:31 ↗ position it's not real clear to me who

56:33 ↗ actually does that you know in terms of

56:36 ↗ the interplay between

56:39 ↗ Parks staff and the variety of

56:42 ↗ nonprofits and agencies that we have in

56:45 ↗ the area and so I think a liazon would

56:48 ↗ really help that and and um uh

56:52 ↗ capitalize on some of the other aspects

56:55 ↗ that some of these nonprofits uh you

56:57 ↗ know are you know want to have as part

57:00 ↗ of their missions so so I think that's

57:03 ↗ one thing where we could have some

57:04 ↗ improvement in the system is uh that and

57:09 ↗ you know and you look at the survey I

57:10 ↗ mean I think it's about you know

57:12 ↗ amenities and restrooms and uh parking

57:16 ↗ and you know those are probably the top

57:18 ↗ three that I guess I can think of uh you

57:21 ↗ know that would improve our system and

57:23 ↗ utilization of it

57:27 ↗ thanks thanks and then Ryan I see you've

57:30 ↗ got your hand

57:32 ↗ up yeah thank you you know I um kind of

57:36 ↗ as I've looked at the questions and um

57:39 ↗ read the feedback and just thought about

57:42 ↗ you know I've said it before but I'm I

57:43 ↗ met a park in isqua every single day of

57:46 ↗ the week um and how I watch people

57:49 ↗ interact is you know I kind of think of

57:52 ↗ maybe veterans and tibits as like those

57:56 ↗ centralized people can get to them

57:58 ↗ anytime if they want to get to them um

58:01 ↗ there's usually enough parking there's

58:04 ↗ um local amenes they're easy to walk to

58:07 ↗ whatever but I think what i' I've

58:09 ↗ noticed about some of those and this

58:11 ↗ kind of goes into where those

58:12 ↗ improvements are needed um is I just

58:15 ↗ don't in general and I think um someone

58:18 ↗ has kind of said something similar to

58:19 ↗ this but like I don't think the space is

58:21 ↗ used very well um for how those parks

58:23 ↗ are laid out is

58:25 ↗ you know there was comments about the

58:26 ↗ fields at tibits are completely covered

58:29 ↗ and I get they put a lot of money into

58:30 ↗ them last year I watched them literally

58:32 ↗ dig up the field and lay new like

58:34 ↗ foundations to the Batters boxes and the

58:35 ↗ pitching mounds and so they're

58:37 ↗ protecting that and I get that um but at

58:39 ↗ the same time when you compare that to

58:40 ↗ like the highlands and those turf fields

58:42 ↗ every time you go up there some type of

58:44 ↗ sport is being played whether it's

58:46 ↗ soccer Cricket um uh lacrosse uh just

58:51 ↗ people running around the track just

58:52 ↗ people doing physical fitness people

58:54 ↗ just doing their own workouts up there

58:55 ↗ the small pocket soccer park that's up

58:57 ↗ there um I think there's there's a lot

59:00 ↗ more ways you can utilize a Turf and I'm

59:02 ↗ not advocating for Turf everything but

59:04 ↗ I'm just our our kind of two big parks

59:07 ↗ seem to go dark in the winter literally

59:11 ↗ and figuratively is there's a lot less

59:14 ↗ people on them people go out there and

59:16 ↗ they play with their dogs on them the

59:18 ↗ one set of four tennis courts and

59:20 ↗ Tibbits is packed the second Sunshine

59:23 ↗ comes out and it's plopped in the middle

59:25 ↗ of a field next to you guys that could

59:27 ↗ probably triple the court size if you

59:29 ↗ actually just utilized the space that's

59:31 ↗ there on that giant field that has two

59:34 ↗ bleachers you know just sitting next to

59:35 ↗ the tennis court so I think there's a

59:37 ↗ lot of areas for those parks to just as

59:40 ↗ we talked about that

59:42 ↗ infrastructure or just adding on is I

59:44 ↗ think we have great parks and I think

59:45 ↗ people use them in their own ways and I

59:47 ↗ love seeing people in them every day um

59:49 ↗ but I think just smaller uh upgrades

59:53 ↗ here and there um can can go a long way

59:56 ↗ and I I think of some of the other parks

59:57 ↗ around here um and just kind of what

1:00:00 ↗ I've seen in terms of multi-use is you

1:00:03 ↗ know there's a park at a city to the

1:00:05 ↗ east of us that in the exact same

1:00:07 ↗ footprint has like baseball fields

1:00:08 ↗ softball fields a skate park a pump

1:00:11 ↗ track for dirt bikes and a rock climbing

1:00:13 ↗ wall um and it's all fit it utilizes the

1:00:17 ↗ space really well there's still open

1:00:19 ↗ space where people just kind of come and

1:00:20 ↗ gather sit have lunch um so I think just

1:00:23 ↗ kind of expanding on that

1:00:25 ↗ um would be great and then one final

1:00:27 ↗ thing I think would be awesome to

1:00:29 ↗ consider for our parks at some point and

1:00:32 ↗ I'm not sure the infrastructure on it

1:00:34 ↗ but we talk about infrastructure is

1:00:36 ↗ Wi-Fi um I was at St Louis recently and

1:00:40 ↗ they have some public parks that each of

1:00:42 ↗ those little gazebos has a little unit

1:00:44 ↗ up in the top of the Gazebo and it

1:00:45 ↗ provides free public Wi-Fi and I think

1:00:48 ↗ that's an area that could be explored to

1:00:51 ↗ um increase use in our parks in

1:00:52 ↗ particular the people that go out and

1:00:54 ↗ eat lunch and and work in our our

1:00:56 ↗ systems so that's kind of my general

1:00:59 ↗ rambling

1:01:02 ↗ feedback great those are awesome thanks

1:01:06 ↗ Ryan one thought on the partnership over

1:01:09 ↗ the summer I sat in on one of the

1:01:11 ↗ breakout groups there's a few different

1:01:13 ↗ commity groups and I went to the one

1:01:16 ↗ where it was different athletic so it's

1:01:19 ↗ like some people from Squad Little

1:01:21 ↗ League some of the athletic directors

1:01:23 ↗ the high schools and there's a lot of

1:01:26 ↗ great ideas there in terms of

1:01:28 ↗ partnership potentials and feedback and

1:01:30 ↗ such and so are we doing anything to

1:01:33 ↗ kind of merge the feedback that was

1:01:36 ↗ gathered from those sessions with the

1:01:39 ↗ survey data and triangulate a little bit

1:01:41 ↗ to figure out okay here's here's some

1:01:44 ↗ common themes and and maybe it could

1:01:45 ↗ help get at some of the demographic atap

1:01:47 ↗ too that well pointed out um because

1:01:50 ↗ there was a few other of those thematic

1:01:52 ↗ groups I don't remember what the other

1:01:54 ↗ were but yeah so those were all done

1:01:57 ↗ under this park system Plan update sort

1:02:00 ↗ of community outreach touch points um

1:02:02 ↗ there was athletic fields there was one

1:02:05 ↗ about Arts culture and history um and

1:02:07 ↗ then there was one that was trails in

1:02:09 ↗ open space um so we are sort of

1:02:11 ↗ combining those and layering those with

1:02:13 ↗ the survey results within the plan um so

1:02:17 ↗ yeah

1:02:21 ↗ yeah but you're right those were some

1:02:23 ↗ other partners ships and sort of

1:02:25 ↗ targeted groups to get at some of

1:02:28 ↗ those groups that just don't have the

1:02:31 ↗ time to do the surveys because they're

1:02:32 ↗ out in the Parks and out with their kids

1:02:34 ↗ doing the active Recreation right they

1:02:37 ↗ they seem very

1:02:38 ↗ interested like figuring out what a

1:02:40 ↗ partnership would look like and little

1:02:43 ↗ league in particular pointed out like

1:02:44 ↗ the dogfield

1:02:46 ↗ example of at a

1:02:50 ↗ partnership so I don't I don't know how

1:02:52 ↗ all that stuff works but maybe

1:02:54 ↗ possibility there I would love to have

1:02:57 ↗ more use and access of high school

1:02:59 ↗ Fields as well especially downtown where

1:03:03 ↗ IHS IMS new tal middle school and such

1:03:06 ↗ there are those facilities but sometimes

1:03:08 ↗ they can be difficult to

1:03:14 ↗ access yeah we're certainly looking

1:03:19 ↗ into ran go

1:03:23 ↗ ahead I was just gonna piggy back on

1:03:26 ↗ that partnership thing is just as an

1:03:28 ↗ example um the city of squim uh they

1:03:31 ↗ have a group called The squim Pickers um

1:03:33 ↗ that play pickle ball and they're a very

1:03:35 ↗ uh large group 50 to 100 people that

1:03:37 ↗ play every single weekend but they

1:03:40 ↗ partnered um together and then with the

1:03:42 ↗ city to build uh it's either six or

1:03:45 ↗ eight completely dedicated pickle ball

1:03:47 ↗ courts on an existing um Park that was

1:03:51 ↗ already in use um and it it seemed to

1:03:53 ↗ work really well well uh so if people

1:03:56 ↗ are ever interested in learning more

1:03:57 ↗ about that and how they did it that

1:03:59 ↗ might be worth talking

1:04:01 ↗ to that'd be great yeah I'd like to know

1:04:03 ↗ how they they funded that between the

1:04:05 ↗ city and if it was Private funds coming

1:04:08 ↗ in or or grants or combination I'm

1:04:13 ↗ guessing that would be

1:04:16 ↗ great then Tim I see you've got your

1:04:19 ↗ hand

1:04:22 ↗ up yeah that actually was a perfect

1:04:24 ↗ segue for my comment and uh have to keep

1:04:28 ↗ this comment private because I don't

1:04:29 ↗ want demonstrators in front of my house

1:04:32 ↗ uh but pickle ball is a relatively new

1:04:35 ↗ thing

1:04:38 ↗ and I think it's great that people are

1:04:40 ↗ so into it right now but I have to say

1:04:44 ↗ that I at least wonder if it makes sense

1:04:47 ↗ to make a big investment in dedicated

1:04:49 ↗ pickle ball facilities uh when we sports

1:04:53 ↗ like tennis and basketball basketball

1:04:54 ↗ soccer what have you have a track record

1:04:58 ↗ a historical record of uh involvement

1:05:01 ↗ and interest and I just what I'm

1:05:04 ↗ concerned about is making an investment

1:05:06 ↗ in building out some pickle ball

1:05:08 ↗ dedicated facilities and then having The

1:05:10 ↗ Fad kind of fade and you know those

1:05:14 ↗ facilities are then kind of stuck and so

1:05:16 ↗ I would say at the very least if we

1:05:18 ↗ think about building or creating more

1:05:21 ↗ pickle ball uh access which is great

1:05:24 ↗ let's at least make sure that it can be

1:05:27 ↗ easily used for other things and not

1:05:29 ↗ built as such a pickle ball facility

1:05:33 ↗ that nothing else can be done there

1:05:35 ↗ please don't tell them I said

1:05:39 ↗ that thank Tim we'll make sure they

1:05:42 ↗ don't watch this

1:05:44 ↗ recording but you make a good point I

1:05:46 ↗ mean yeah how how much does this one

1:05:49 ↗ sport have staying power and that could

1:05:50 ↗ be said for any of of the sports that

1:05:53 ↗ group groups come out and and ask for

1:05:55 ↗ that space um and that is part of the

1:05:57 ↗ balance and yeah knowing whether this

1:05:59 ↗ can be multi-use can this easily be

1:06:02 ↗ switched into something else um is it h

1:06:05 ↗ how much are we investing in that one

1:06:07 ↗ type of

1:06:11 ↗ infrastructure I know Chris is probably

1:06:13 ↗ gonna want to move us along here but I

1:06:14 ↗ think what Ryan said was really

1:06:16 ↗ important a couple things back which was

1:06:19 ↗ do we want two of our three big parks to

1:06:21 ↗ be

1:06:23 ↗ dark more than half the year are we do

1:06:26 ↗ we find that

1:06:27 ↗ acceptable we do that and can we

1:06:31 ↗ Elevate that in our plans because I

1:06:33 ↗ think every time we talk about it at

1:06:35 ↗ least since I've been on the board oh

1:06:37 ↗ it's too big it's in the plan plan is

1:06:39 ↗ like like I don't know I have doubts

1:06:42 ↗ that I'm never going to see it when my

1:06:44 ↗ kids are you know still

1:06:47 ↗ here I guess so I want to go on record

1:06:49 ↗ and say like you need to prioritize the

1:06:52 ↗ two big parks okay well that that's a

1:06:55 ↗ good segue into five and six really what

1:06:57 ↗ our future Investments should be and

1:07:00 ↗ what we should be prioritizing in system

1:07:02 ↗ and if that's really a critical piece

1:07:05 ↗ you know knowing that that's probably

1:07:06 ↗ their two biggest parts that would be

1:07:09 ↗ good to add into the into the

1:07:14 ↗ update be like whoever you know how many

1:07:16 ↗ people go and they like do the little

1:07:17 ↗ clicker to see how many people are using

1:07:18 ↗ the parks like go up to Central

1:07:20 ↗ Park and then go to

1:07:22 ↗ tibits

1:07:26 ↗ I mean and we know because we schedule

1:07:29 ↗ those fields as well like we do have

1:07:30 ↗ some of that information and some of

1:07:31 ↗ that data for how much they're used and

1:07:33 ↗ how much we we don't schedule these spes

1:07:37 ↗ win what's fun to watch is people just

1:07:39 ↗ playing yeah like it doesn't all have to

1:07:40 ↗ be

1:07:46 ↗ organized okay and we're going to be

1:07:48 ↗ looking at near-term midterm and

1:07:50 ↗ long-term Investments and priorities in

1:07:52 ↗ the system do you have an idea right now

1:07:55 ↗ of what you feel should be like like

1:07:57 ↗ should the lights on the field be

1:07:59 ↗ something that's in your term need start

1:08:01 ↗ Turf

1:08:03 ↗ tur you have Ser

1:08:09 ↗ drainage right right now right now right

1:08:12 ↗ now right now our park right now those

1:08:13 ↗ two parks aren't as usual because

1:08:15 ↗ they're swampy and they're

1:08:17 ↗ dark so even if there were lights they'd

1:08:20 ↗ still be

1:08:21 ↗ swamping well there are lights at to but

1:08:24 ↗ you can't use

1:08:25 ↗ it certain conditions so I would agree

1:08:28 ↗ that one of one of our top priorities

1:08:30 ↗ needs to

1:08:32 ↗ be renewal and modernization of our

1:08:36 ↗ athletic

1:08:39 ↗ fields

1:08:41 ↗ SW yeah I mean I think there's a whole

1:08:43 ↗ bunch of stuff like somebody came and

1:08:45 ↗ talked to us about how it used to be on

1:08:46 ↗ a water table and like a whole bunch of

1:08:48 ↗ stuff like tibits and obviously I'm not

1:08:50 ↗ a geologist so I don't really know I

1:08:53 ↗ Know It's Tricky but I think the fact

1:08:55 ↗ that like it is going to be expensive so

1:08:57 ↗ we have to decide if we're committed to

1:08:59 ↗ it or not like any if we're not

1:09:00 ↗ wishy-washy and it's like if it's not a

1:09:02 ↗ top priority we're never gonna do

1:09:04 ↗ it so awesome like it's such a it's such

1:09:07 ↗ a big area you know there's so

1:09:11 ↗ much with there that I think that it

1:09:13 ↗ could be really cool and I I would love

1:09:15 ↗ to see Memorial feel the same but it's I

1:09:18 ↗ feel like it would be trickier in a

1:09:21 ↗ sense because it's so small but like

1:09:22 ↗ tibits could be

1:09:24 ↗ a regional gem if if we prioritized it

1:09:29 ↗ it right it was two years ago we did all

1:09:31 ↗ those plans for right

1:09:34 ↗ like I don't dust those off I'm sure we

1:09:37 ↗ spent money on

1:09:40 ↗ those Memorial's one field tiot is many

1:09:45 ↗ and similarly you know partnership with

1:09:47 ↗ next spam State Park they've got six

1:09:50 ↗ seven soccer fields that could really be

1:09:53 ↗ converted into to six seven soccer

1:09:55 ↗ fields plus

1:09:58 ↗ multiuse

1:10:04 ↗ the I think that one's going to be

1:10:06 ↗ harder just do to critical

1:10:09 ↗ areas but if you were to work with what

1:10:12 ↗ we have the footprints that are there

1:10:15 ↗ are

1:10:18 ↗ promising I do you want to make a note

1:10:20 ↗ on time

1:10:22 ↗ the

1:10:24 ↗ oh okay we're gonna pop down we have one

1:10:27 ↗ more sorry ahead last one you know

1:10:31 ↗ actually I think that uh priorities and

1:10:34 ↗ future Investments should be allocated

1:10:37 ↗ towards some master planning completions

1:10:40 ↗ because that will tell the story in

1:10:42 ↗ terms of what future Investments need to

1:10:44 ↗ occur so you know for instance I mean

1:10:47 ↗ the anchor parks that we've established

1:10:49 ↗ that you know are are the priorities we

1:10:52 ↗ need to get the the master planning

1:10:55 ↗ completed with tibits we need to get it

1:10:57 ↗ completed with veterans we need to get

1:10:59 ↗ it completed with the isqua cor Creek

1:11:04 ↗ Corridor uh because through that process

1:11:07 ↗ then we'll be able to establish what

1:11:09 ↗ infrastructure needs to be built or what

1:11:12 ↗ uh you know what priorities that the

1:11:14 ↗ community even wants for some of these

1:11:16 ↗ major parks and and without those Master

1:11:20 ↗ plans being completed we're just you

1:11:23 ↗ know spinning our Wheels in terms of

1:11:25 ↗ what we want to do because it's always

1:11:27 ↗ going to come down to what's going to be

1:11:29 ↗ in the master

1:11:30 ↗ plan so I guess that's where I see the

1:11:33 ↗ priorities maybe even in the shortterm

1:11:35 ↗ priorities in the next year or two and

1:11:38 ↗ some of that I know is being worked on

1:11:40 ↗ but I'm not sure what where things are

1:11:42 ↗ at with

1:11:43 ↗ that okay and and Acquisitions

1:11:47 ↗ acquisition acquisition acquisition

1:11:49 ↗ acquisition land

1:11:51 ↗ is really going to be hard to get and so

1:11:54 ↗ anytime we can acquire some property we

1:11:58 ↗ should be doing

1:12:00 ↗ it and do you think as far as the

1:12:02 ↗ Acquisitions should we focus on the

1:12:05 ↗ conservation in open space which we've

1:12:07 ↗ been doing a really good job on or do

1:12:09 ↗ you think we should focus on active

1:12:11 ↗ Recreation

1:12:13 ↗ land feasible we're feasible well you

1:12:17 ↗ know probably a little of both I I

1:12:19 ↗ suppose you know I'm I'm really a big

1:12:22 ↗ advocate for the creek

1:12:24 ↗ Corridor and um and the mountain to

1:12:27 ↗ sound Greenway Corridor I mean you know

1:12:30 ↗ those two major corridors that pass

1:12:32 ↗ through our city we kind of established

1:12:35 ↗ in the in the last master or the last

1:12:39 ↗ strategic Parks

1:12:40 ↗ plan um but we really need to make some

1:12:43 ↗ Focus towards those two corridors to try

1:12:46 ↗ and you know pick up some Acquisitions

1:12:48 ↗ to be able to tie them together and if

1:12:50 ↗ we don't do it now it'll be potentially

1:12:53 ↗ for for ever lost and we and we may not

1:12:55 ↗ really be able to capitalize on those

1:12:58 ↗ those corridors in the

1:13:02 ↗ future is there a priority though

1:13:05 ↗ because if you're acquiring new land

1:13:07 ↗ which I fully agree with how do you exix

1:13:10 ↗ up the parks that we're talking about

1:13:12 ↗ right now that need the lighting in the

1:13:14 ↗ turf where's all this put all the money

1:13:17 ↗ in more

1:13:20 ↗ never it's a balancing act certainly I

1:13:23 ↗ mean you need to allocate you know what

1:13:26 ↗ you have within your budget to work with

1:13:29 ↗ you know to to try and accomplish both

1:13:30 ↗ those things you know I think they're

1:13:32 ↗ both

1:13:33 ↗ important uh and and you have to you

1:13:36 ↗ can't just focus on one and not the

1:13:38 ↗ other certainly um again I I can't

1:13:41 ↗ emphasize enough I think the importance

1:13:43 ↗ of completing Master plans or updating

1:13:46 ↗ Master plans as needed you know is

1:13:48 ↗ really going to help you know create the

1:13:52 ↗ you know the the m map to some extent of

1:13:55 ↗ where we're headed

1:13:57 ↗ and we don't have that now have we set

1:14:01 ↗ those priorities do we know what we are

1:14:03 ↗ going to prioritize is it acquiring more

1:14:06 ↗ or is it updating and

1:14:09 ↗ improving I wouldn't say that we've sort

1:14:11 ↗ of put them as priorities sort of

1:14:14 ↗ against each other necessarily but they

1:14:16 ↗ are elements that exist within the CIP

1:14:19 ↗ um that are sort of reviewed and that's

1:14:22 ↗ that then leads to sort of these these

1:14:24 ↗ budget um conversations of sort of where

1:14:28 ↗ the money goes um but that is something

1:14:31 ↗ that we'll probably be bringing back to

1:14:33 ↗ the board and as we talk about sort of

1:14:35 ↗ project priorities and sort of

1:14:40 ↗ where but to look at what have we done

1:14:42 ↗ in the last five years where have you

1:14:45 ↗ know why is there an imbalance have we

1:14:49 ↗ not paid enough attention why do we have

1:14:51 ↗ start

1:14:52 ↗ fields that the city is huge and if we

1:14:55 ↗ don't have space for everything then why

1:14:58 ↗ are we

1:15:00 ↗ buying why don't we fix up what we have

1:15:03 ↗ and i' just like to see over the last

1:15:04 ↗ five years what have we done and are we

1:15:07 ↗ keeping up people not that I don't want

1:15:09 ↗ to

1:15:13 ↗ acquire yeah okay yeah we we'll pull out

1:15:15 ↗ some of that data for the next

1:15:18 ↗ conversation to that's really important

1:15:20 ↗ yeah I think there was a few things as

1:15:22 ↗ far as like to new as it relates to

1:15:25 ↗ funding right so it's like both a look

1:15:27 ↗ back I that's right Brenda but there

1:15:28 ↗ were some questions around you know what

1:15:30 ↗ is our allocation percent over time of

1:15:32 ↗ the budget to the you know split by open

1:15:36 ↗ field you know open space um I know we

1:15:39 ↗ did do a lot of restoration you know

1:15:41 ↗ over last year so that was probably a

1:15:42 ↗ big budget item last year and then how

1:15:44 ↗ does our budget compare to any cities

1:15:46 ↗ that we would consider I think I've

1:15:47 ↗ asked this before who are our sister

1:15:49 ↗ cities that are closest to us because

1:15:51 ↗ you know we might talk about bellev and

1:15:52 ↗ might talk about KK but like they're not

1:15:55 ↗ comparable so like that might not be

1:15:57 ↗ Affair so who are in King County the

1:16:01 ↗ cities that we should be looking at for

1:16:03 ↗ Venture I think that would be what I

1:16:05 ↗ would love to see as like a if we could

1:16:07 ↗ come maybe Chris n we can talk about

1:16:08 ↗ making sure that one comes back as an

1:16:10 ↗ agenda topic because I think we brought

1:16:11 ↗ that one up

1:16:14 ↗ before that is something design

1:16:16 ↗ workshops diving into is that

1:16:18 ↗ benchmarking based on three different

1:16:20 ↗ cities but if you feel there's one

1:16:22 ↗ that's more appropriate than the three

1:16:24 ↗ we'll look at that too well and also

1:16:26 ↗ looking specifically within King County

1:16:27 ↗ and our our current sort of

1:16:50 ↗ region we can take a look at their parks

1:16:53 ↗ plans too and see what they

1:16:55 ↗ prioritize that'll speak a

1:16:59 ↗ lot I'm going to kind of whip through

1:17:01 ↗ the next slides and Jeff wanted me to

1:17:03 ↗ sorry reiterate that we can break out

1:17:06 ↗ each of these individual slides as a

1:17:08 ↗ separate discussion which I think you'll

1:17:09 ↗ find some of those are

1:17:12 ↗ warranted but so that's I just kind of

1:17:15 ↗ wanted to review positive performance of

1:17:17 ↗ the park system what we're doing well uh

1:17:20 ↗ parks open SP and trails rated really

1:17:22 ↗ good

1:17:23 ↗ good uh quality and condition of the

1:17:26 ↗ courts and distribution of parks is

1:17:28 ↗ great uh want to look at improvements

1:17:30 ↗ desired in the park system that we heard

1:17:33 ↗ again it's a lot of what we've been

1:17:34 ↗ talking about amenities needed restrooms

1:17:36 ↗ Community Gardens dog parks came up

1:17:39 ↗ pretty high um some of the restrooms

1:17:42 ↗ rated poor to fair and I know some of

1:17:45 ↗ that

1:17:46 ↗ just sometimes infrastructure sometimes

1:17:49 ↗ usage you know restrooms break down they

1:17:52 ↗ get highly use their

1:17:54 ↗ restrooms uh definitely Trail

1:17:56 ↗ improvements needed Trail heads needed

1:17:58 ↗ and again the discussion on the sports

1:18:01 ↗ spts for

1:18:03 ↗ sure so the things we pulled out from

1:18:06 ↗ the survey results were connections Park

1:18:09 ↗ amenities athletic fields acquisition

1:18:11 ↗ strategies Environmental Protection and

1:18:13 ↗ stewardship and partnership so a lot of

1:18:15 ↗ what we've already been talking about

1:18:17 ↗ and again we could bring each of these

1:18:19 ↗ topics back individually if you want we

1:18:21 ↗ can bring them all back if do you think

1:18:23 ↗ that's um warranted and

1:18:26 ↗ needed think we're trying to whip

1:18:28 ↗ through but whenever you're prioritizing

1:18:30 ↗ six is a lot of things

1:18:32 ↗ so I would just encourage us to like

1:18:35 ↗ figure out what we actually think like

1:18:37 ↗ top three priorities are yeah I mean

1:18:38 ↗ that's a good point what top three would

1:18:40 ↗ you like to bring back do you think and

1:18:43 ↗ really get more in depth

1:18:50 ↗ in and we can take time on this one and

1:18:52 ↗ you all can think about it I can send

1:18:54 ↗ another email and we can sort of do a

1:18:56 ↗ poll of what we think we want to bring

1:18:58 ↗ back in the next couple of months for of

1:19:00 ↗ these six I feel like top

1:19:05 ↗ priorities and I'll just go through them

1:19:07 ↗ all and maybe we Circle back what we

1:19:10 ↗ think that might be okay so a big big

1:19:14 ↗ theme that we're finding coming out of

1:19:15 ↗ the the survey in the data is our

1:19:17 ↗ environmental stewardship which we are

1:19:19 ↗ doing really well on um but possible

1:19:23 ↗ actions are point of emphasis in the

1:19:24 ↗ plan we want to look at continuing to

1:19:26 ↗ protect and

1:19:28 ↗ enhance um Environmental Protection for

1:19:30 ↗ existing natural systems throughout the

1:19:32 ↗ city uh understanding and emphasizing

1:19:35 ↗ the role the park system plays in

1:19:37 ↗ meeting the city City's environmental

1:19:39 ↗ sustainability and climate goals um kind

1:19:42 ↗ of speaking to a lot what what Connie

1:19:44 ↗ was talking about too and incorporate

1:19:46 ↗ resiliency and sustainability in our

1:19:49 ↗ design and planning processes uh we know

1:19:51 ↗ storm waterers a management is a big big

1:19:54 ↗ deal especially in central isqua so how

1:19:58 ↗ do we start combining the two how do we

1:20:00 ↗ start integrating the two together and

1:20:02 ↗ enhancing both systems and then

1:20:04 ↗ furthering our reduction of pesticides

1:20:06 ↗ and improving our maintenance and

1:20:07 ↗ operation

1:20:08 ↗ practices um you know enhancing Urban

1:20:11 ↗ Forest management and building a pond

1:20:13 ↗ green Isa integrated Pest Management and

1:20:16 ↗ water wise

1:20:20 ↗ practices are there any other actions

1:20:22 ↗ maybe points of emphasis that you think

1:20:24 ↗ coming out of the data or you think that

1:20:27 ↗ that we really need to focus on

1:20:33 ↗ for bot two feel more action oriented

1:20:39 ↗ to wasn't sure with the survey comments

1:20:42 ↗ I I saw a lot of comments about the MDES

1:20:47 ↗ and like is there is that something that

1:20:50 ↗ is true are people speculating or like

1:20:53 ↗ how where where do people get

1:20:57 ↗ that a lot of that is wrapped in

1:20:59 ↗ integrated Pest Management which reduces

1:21:01 ↗ the use of pesticides and this is

1:21:03 ↗ something I can have Rick and Matt come

1:21:05 ↗ and speak about also and I do know they

1:21:07 ↗ have to post what chemicals they are

1:21:10 ↗ using um and they try to utilize um

1:21:14 ↗ industry standards that are are much

1:21:16 ↗ more environmental

1:21:18 ↗ friendly and that that's kind of out of

1:21:21 ↗ my perview in a way the maintenance side

1:21:23 ↗ of it but I can definitely have them

1:21:25 ↗ write a paragraph or speak to

1:21:28 ↗ that I just didn't know if that those

1:21:31 ↗ comments were based on something that

1:21:35 ↗ actually sometimes that's a old school

1:21:37 ↗ practice that that's nobody uses anymore

1:21:40 ↗ so I don't know if it's um kind of a

1:21:43 ↗ legacy thing that

1:21:46 ↗ happened again I can find

1:21:49 ↗ that it's definitely something we're

1:21:51 ↗ conscientious of particularly around the

1:21:53 ↗ creeks in the

1:21:54 ↗ water for

1:21:58 ↗ sure okay to the next one connections

1:22:01 ↗ and

1:22:02 ↗ connectivity big discussion lately so

1:22:05 ↗ possible actions we had was propose a

1:22:07 ↗ park system where every Park is

1:22:09 ↗ connected via Trail sidewalk or

1:22:11 ↗ multi-use

1:22:12 ↗ path um and the idea of the greed

1:22:14 ↗ necklace actually becomes a Citywide

1:22:17 ↗ strategy um not just Central isqua but

1:22:20 ↗ now we're looking at a whole istic

1:22:23 ↗ approach to it uh for a really unified a

1:22:25 ↗ much more unified system a green Network

1:22:27 ↗ within the city and to surrounding

1:22:29 ↗ public lands we have great connectivity

1:22:32 ↗ out into state parks um and then

1:22:36 ↗ rebranding the park system around this

1:22:37 ↗ vision of every Park connected for

1:22:40 ↗ stronger Park identity and way finding

1:22:43 ↗ systems um we have great Trails you know

1:22:46 ↗ and we know we need to just improve how

1:22:48 ↗ people find them and how people navigate

1:22:50 ↗ through them um and then and prior

1:22:53 ↗ prioritize Gap connections to strength

1:22:55 ↗ and connectivity throughout the city

1:22:57 ↗ that's something we've been doing

1:22:59 ↗ actually all week is looking at these

1:23:02 ↗ gaps but is there anything else related

1:23:05 ↗ to connectivity you think we need to

1:23:07 ↗ really focus and

1:23:10 ↗ improve

1:23:13 ↗ Brad you're asking me I thought maybe

1:23:17 ↗ you wanted to say something BR because I

1:23:18 ↗ saw you were off mute so I

1:23:20 ↗ was no I think there's I think those all

1:23:23 ↗ look good you know my only comment here

1:23:25 ↗ would be to really focus on the

1:23:26 ↗ corridors the isqua creek Corridor the

1:23:29 ↗ mountain of sound Greenway

1:23:31 ↗ Corridor you know and and the and if we

1:23:34 ↗ are able to maximize the connections in

1:23:37 ↗ these two

1:23:39 ↗ corridors you know then we'll have a lot

1:23:41 ↗ of connection with all the park

1:23:45 ↗ system I don't really see the corridors

1:23:47 ↗ mentioned necessarily here specifically

1:23:51 ↗ but that would be one thing that I would

1:23:52 ↗ add to this

1:23:54 ↗ slide

1:23:57 ↗ okay all right park amenities and

1:24:00 ↗ possible actions and again it it kind

1:24:04 ↗ of aligns with what you've been talking

1:24:07 ↗ about is proposed newer renovated assets

1:24:09 ↗ and amenities within the existing Park

1:24:12 ↗ Properties uh to provide diversity of

1:24:15 ↗ activities um from what we I've heard

1:24:17 ↗ tonight definitely a wide array of

1:24:20 ↗ amenities a lot of different amenities

1:24:22 ↗ may be focused on particular Parks so

1:24:25 ↗ they're spread around the system uh

1:24:28 ↗ focus on improving and implementing

1:24:29 ↗ artificial turf Sports fields for

1:24:32 ↗ multiuse as well as additional cour

1:24:34 ↗ spaces uh identifying priories parks and

1:24:37 ↗ spaces that need improvements again you

1:24:40 ↗ know the near Mid and long-term parks

1:24:42 ↗ and system trails that need that and

1:24:45 ↗ then recognize the significant land

1:24:47 ↗ constraints within isqua and the CH

1:24:50 ↗ challenges we have with the current plan

1:24:52 ↗ available we know with Title 18 coming

1:24:55 ↗ in that um we're going to have a little

1:24:57 ↗ bit more challenge when we go to

1:24:59 ↗ renovate

1:25:00 ↗ ke so that's something we need to

1:25:02 ↗ integrate and incorporate in as

1:25:05 ↗ well and we really want to emphasize the

1:25:08 ↗ need and the use of multi-use and

1:25:11 ↗ innovative solutions be able to

1:25:12 ↗ accomplish

1:25:14 ↗ that which is exciting for design

1:25:16 ↗ perspective but challenging when when

1:25:18 ↗ you're developing a whole system maybe

1:25:20 ↗ it's even when you use multi

1:25:23 ↗ and not everything can be multiuse all

1:25:26 ↗ the all of a sudden then you end up

1:25:28 ↗ doesn't really work I don't know if

1:25:30 ↗ you've seen those turf fields where

1:25:31 ↗ there's so many lines you can't play

1:25:38 ↗ out right athletic fields our favorite

1:25:42 ↗ topic so emphasis within the plan we're

1:25:44 ↗ thinking consider incorporating

1:25:46 ↗ Synthetic Turf at Central Park Pad 2

1:25:48 ↗ Tibbits Valley Park Valley Park

1:25:50 ↗ and Veterans Memorial

1:25:53 ↗ um further collaboration with Washington

1:25:55 ↗ state parks and isaa soccer club for the

1:25:57 ↗ fields at lakes spamish and then further

1:26:00 ↗ partner with Isa school district for

1:26:02 ↗ improved access to all School Athletic

1:26:05 ↗ Field an incorporate Athletic Field

1:26:07 ↗ assessment that was done this year I

1:26:10 ↗ believe or last year I want to say it

1:26:12 ↗ was

1:26:13 ↗ 2021 it was right before I started um

1:26:16 ↗ and so that Athletic Field assessment

1:26:18 ↗ sort of integrating that into this plan

1:26:21 ↗ update

1:26:24 ↗ kind aligns with what we've heard

1:26:26 ↗ tonight anything else on athletic field

1:26:28 ↗ and again we can break these out

1:26:29 ↗ separately I think the master plan

1:26:32 ↗ comment applies here too where we don't

1:26:35 ↗ necessarily have to

1:26:37 ↗ automatically say incorporating

1:26:39 ↗ synthetic is the answer for all of these

1:26:42 ↗ fields and all these cases but it should

1:26:44 ↗ be part of the a larger master plan of

1:26:47 ↗ making sure that we're getting the

1:26:50 ↗ highest best use out of all of these

1:26:53 ↗ um

1:26:55 ↗ locations probably

1:27:03 ↗ end and acquisition strategy so develop

1:27:07 ↗ a strategy that responds to and

1:27:09 ↗ understands a variety of acquisition

1:27:12 ↗ purposes needed for our system to

1:27:14 ↗ enhance it so emphasizing Environmental

1:27:18 ↗ Protection and stewardship connectivity

1:27:21 ↗ through the GRE neck necklace concept

1:27:24 ↗ and active Recreation needs at Community

1:27:26 ↗ parks and neor

1:27:29 ↗ Par so we're thinking that those would

1:27:32 ↗ be the three main focuses when we're

1:27:33 ↗ looking at acquisition and starting to

1:27:36 ↗ develop that

1:27:43 ↗ particular anything else can I just ask

1:27:46 ↗ quick what is active Recreation needs

1:27:50 ↗ precisely I mean how how do you define

1:27:54 ↗ that when I'm looking at active

1:27:56 ↗ Recreation I'm looking at a physical

1:27:58 ↗ activities such as a playground such as

1:28:01 ↗ courts athletic fields something that's

1:28:03 ↗ going to really get you out and moving

1:28:05 ↗ more versus a more passive is a slower

1:28:09 ↗ type of recreation maybe walking um it

1:28:12 ↗ could be bird watching it could

1:28:14 ↗ be

1:28:16 ↗ um I you call more of a health and

1:28:19 ↗ wellness aspect of outdoor recreation

1:28:22 ↗ new

1:28:24 ↗ Wii

1:28:27 ↗ Wii does that help Tim yeah yeah okay

1:28:30 ↗ thanks yeah I guess I was thinking that

1:28:32 ↗ almost anytime someone goes to a park

1:28:34 ↗ they're being active uh

1:28:37 ↗ but in some cases much more so than

1:28:41 ↗ others so yeah that makes sense thank

1:28:45 ↗ you and

1:28:48 ↗ Brad you know maybe you're actually

1:28:50 ↗ incorporating this Within in the green

1:28:52 ↗ necklace concept but I sound like a

1:28:54 ↗ broken record here with these corridors

1:28:56 ↗ but east west Corridor north south

1:28:59 ↗ Corridor I mean those are two

1:29:02 ↗ major uh issues that that we've

1:29:05 ↗ identified U to interconnect the park

1:29:09 ↗ system uh and uh and pieces that are

1:29:13 ↗ missing or gaps uh is really where I

1:29:16 ↗ think acquisition strategy should focus

1:29:19 ↗ is on you know being to accomplish those

1:29:22 ↗ two

1:29:23 ↗ corridors and again maybe that's what

1:29:26 ↗ you're thinking when you say green

1:29:27 ↗ necklace you know I suppose the

1:29:30 ↗ corridors could be a part of the green

1:29:32 ↗ necklace but the green necklace goes

1:29:33 ↗ maybe beyond that

1:29:37 ↗ um yeah start off as the spines of that

1:29:40 ↗ necklace or that concept connectivity

1:29:42 ↗ concept and spread out from there so you

1:29:45 ↗ know maybe expanding a little bit on

1:29:47 ↗ that number two you know to talk a

1:29:50 ↗ little bit more about you

1:29:53 ↗ know going Beyond just the green

1:29:55 ↗ necklace at talking about the corridor

1:29:58 ↗ interconnections and connectivity will

1:30:00 ↗ be coming back as its own separate item

1:30:05 ↗ or long

1:30:06 ↗ session

1:30:08 ↗ yeah yeah so our last them we picked out

1:30:11 ↗ was U

1:30:12 ↗ Partnerships and to be able to continue

1:30:14 ↗ to focus and enhance Partnerships that

1:30:17 ↗ support both active and active

1:30:20 ↗ Recreation and environmental comp

1:30:22 ↗ obervation uh furthering partner

1:30:24 ↗ partnering on trail heads and Trail

1:30:26 ↗ connectivity within the City and

1:30:28 ↗ surrounding public plans um enhancing

1:30:31 ↗ our Partnerships with the school

1:30:33 ↗ district public agencies and private

1:30:35 ↗ developers and then continue to leverage

1:30:37 ↗ grants both local state and federal to

1:30:40 ↗ help address the parks assistant Capital

1:30:41 ↗ Improvement needs and

1:30:43 ↗ priorities you could always use

1:30:46 ↗ more might be helpful to look at the

1:30:49 ↗ different themes and actions with within

1:30:52 ↗ them because seems like some of them

1:30:54 ↗ there's a lot of over overlap and so

1:30:56 ↗ that might make it help prioritize if

1:30:58 ↗ we're talking about working with school

1:31:01 ↗ districts as a partnership but also as a

1:31:03 ↗ way to open up fields and um or like uh

1:31:08 ↗ Trail Head trail connectivity is a part

1:31:10 ↗ of Partnerships and it's also a part of

1:31:14 ↗ connectivity and I think that there will

1:31:17 ↗ be overlap in a positive sense for all

1:31:19 ↗ of these but maybe focusing on for each

1:31:22 ↗ theme what is

1:31:24 ↗ the distinct aspect of what that is to

1:31:29 ↗ to make the prioriti prioritization

1:31:32 ↗ easier because otherwise it's you kind

1:31:34 ↗ of like end up with buckets that are all

1:31:37 ↗ basically the same thing and then right

1:31:39 ↗ back where we started they all pouring

1:31:41 ↗ into each other okay no that's a really

1:31:43 ↗ good

1:31:45 ↗ point so and then last I kind of our

1:31:48 ↗ next steps we'll be doing that we'll

1:31:51 ↗ look at that and try and narrow those

1:31:52 ↗ down a little bit more more concise um

1:31:56 ↗ so we we're going to integrate the goals

1:31:58 ↗ and policies into the draft of the park

1:32:00 ↗ system plan uh further review by Park

1:32:04 ↗ Board ad hoc committee prior to final

1:32:06 ↗ recommendation on those uh building on

1:32:08 ↗ the survey results were confirmed

1:32:10 ↗ feedback and direction of the plan with

1:32:12 ↗ additional Community engagement in March

1:32:14 ↗ and we're looking I think right now at

1:32:16 ↗ the week of the 11th of March oh Ryan

1:32:20 ↗ sorry

1:32:23 ↗ that's all right

1:32:24 ↗ um uh I just wanted to and I don't know

1:32:28 ↗ the uh details of this already or what

1:32:30 ↗ engagement or what partnership there's

1:32:32 ↗ been but I I do want to emphasize I do

1:32:34 ↗ think partnering with the schools um

1:32:37 ↗ could do a whole lot to open up um you

1:32:40 ↗ know covered basketball courts um

1:32:43 ↗ covered big top areas additional fields

1:32:47 ↗ and I think even just something as

1:32:49 ↗ simple as is getting a good partnership

1:32:52 ↗ with them so we can maybe have access to

1:32:54 ↗ some of those spaces on weekends when

1:32:56 ↗ schools are out is I think it would go a

1:32:58 ↗ lot a long distance for the community

1:32:59 ↗ because there's we don't have anything

1:33:02 ↗ covered in on public land but there's a

1:33:04 ↗ lot of good covered stuff on school Land

1:33:07 ↗ school

1:33:09 ↗ land oh really good

1:33:13 ↗ point great so um yeah we're looking at

1:33:16 ↗ more Community engagement in March and

1:33:19 ↗ more community outreach uh April May

1:33:22 ↗ begin to finalize the draft system of

1:33:23 ↗ the plan and then May or June return the

1:33:26 ↗ final draft to the park board

1:33:29 ↗ recommendation thing i' say is really

1:33:31 ↗ try to keep it simple so we've now have

1:33:32 ↗ 18 priorities right so you had six big

1:33:35 ↗ themes and three things underneath each

1:33:37 ↗ one right typically at least in what I

1:33:40 ↗ do in my job we try to tell people not

1:33:42 ↗ to make more than nine blls

1:33:44 ↗ Max so let's not have a whole bunch of

1:33:48 ↗ stuff and not get any of it done we're

1:33:49 ↗ making moderate progress I want us I

1:33:53 ↗ call it audacious goals let's make a big

1:33:56 ↗ goal yeah let's make big goals instead

1:33:58 ↗ of a whole bunch of little ones okay and

1:34:01 ↗ do you feel after after reading through

1:34:02 ↗ all those are there three or four that

1:34:04 ↗ you'd really like to prioritize out of

1:34:06 ↗ those

1:34:07 ↗ themes and get into the system

1:34:11 ↗ plan I think I've got a record of

1:34:14 ↗ M me thinking about it is you know with

1:34:17 ↗ acquisition I think we've made some neat

1:34:19 ↗ Acquisitions and they pretend themselves

1:34:23 ↗ and there's never really anything bad

1:34:25 ↗ about them but we need to focus on the

1:34:28 ↗ green necklace and and then

1:34:31 ↗ maybe also the East the East you know

1:34:34 ↗ East West with the mounts of sound but

1:34:36 ↗ primarily the green necklace I think

1:34:37 ↗ should be our highest priority for

1:34:40 ↗ acquisition and then for Fields we've we

1:34:44 ↗ just got to do

1:34:46 ↗ it and it's going to probably have to be

1:34:49 ↗ tibits and it's expensive and we'll have

1:34:52 ↗ to figure out how but we need we

1:34:54 ↗ basically need another Central Park back

1:34:56 ↗ to happen back down

1:34:59 ↗ here

1:35:05 ↗ okay I like ran um School Partnerships

1:35:10 ↗ sometimes even though you have the big

1:35:11 ↗ goals if there's something that's the

1:35:12 ↗ easy knock

1:35:13 ↗ down yeah because that seems like you

1:35:16 ↗ could unlock a lot of things without a

1:35:19 ↗ ton of budget that

1:35:25 ↗ have we looked at the population and how

1:35:26 ↗ it's spread over the city will tibits

1:35:30 ↗ ever be utilized

1:35:32 ↗ like if you think about everybody from

1:35:34 ↗ Talis and everybody from

1:35:38 ↗ squawk would come to tibits basically

1:35:40 ↗ for the most part and then maybe even

1:35:42 ↗ Oldtown Oldtown would probably split if

1:35:44 ↗ they go up to the highlands or over to

1:35:45 ↗ tibits but I think over to tibet's

1:35:47 ↗ easier because it's way easier to bike

1:35:49 ↗ from Old Town to tibits than it is to

1:35:51 ↗ like take that

1:35:54 ↗ H people go from all over Isa or

1:35:59 ↗ organized activities at at up at the

1:36:03 ↗ Highlands and they will go to tip just

1:36:06 ↗ the same activities there also thinking

1:36:09 ↗ about just sort of future development

1:36:11 ↗ plans of this area and and and what's

1:36:15 ↗ surrounding tiets I it will be an

1:36:18 ↗ investment area for sure but good point

1:36:22 ↗ mhm great so that's our update on the

1:36:25 ↗ the survey result but thank you so much

1:36:28 ↗ good Fe for all this

1:36:33 ↗ feedb and that leaves Brian with like

1:36:35 ↗ three

1:36:39 ↗ minutes so our next topic is the uh

1:36:42 ↗ Recreation services

1:36:45 ↗ on

1:36:48 ↗ conversation real quick question do we

1:36:50 ↗ want to try and do it

1:36:52 ↗ or

1:36:54 ↗ postpone anybody have thoughts is there

1:36:57 ↗ any immediate feedback from us no I'm

1:37:00 ↗ just here to provide a quick highlight

1:37:01 ↗ over Recreation services over 2023 just

1:37:04 ↗ you try to come every year and give you

1:37:06 ↗ a quick little up that you know we had

1:37:07 ↗ mid year we had the farmers market right

1:37:10 ↗ they we plan this upcoming year to have

1:37:12 ↗ something else one of the divisions

1:37:13 ↗ because the recreation service is really

1:37:14 ↗ a lot of service units each one and of

1:37:17 ↗ themselves we could talk endlessly about

1:37:19 ↗ I'm sort of hitting a lot of big high

1:37:21 ↗ lights for each division and that's yeah

1:37:24 ↗ it's not feedback or input it's just

1:37:26 ↗ more I'd love to hear feedback and input

1:37:27 ↗ of course but it's more just giving you

1:37:29 ↗ a a quick little shot of what happened

1:37:31 ↗ in 2023 and some of the great work that

1:37:33 ↗ was done by each of those teams

1:37:35 ↗ something that really does app directly

1:37:37 ↗ to us is your rental shelters and the

1:37:40 ↗ fields how we're keeping up or where

1:37:42 ↗ we're falling behind and what we need to

1:37:44 ↗ do well I think to like and Chris and I

1:37:47 ↗ talked about this many meetings a little

1:37:49 ↗ bit before this year is I would like it

1:37:51 ↗ to see us spend more time in these

1:37:53 ↗ meetings on wreck think we are the park

1:37:56 ↗ and W ored on the bridges Parks or are

1:37:57 ↗ we only Parks technically you're just

1:38:01 ↗ park technically we are

1:38:05 ↗ park right you know that's a great

1:38:09 ↗ question in all the years I've done it

1:38:11 ↗ it's always included Parks and

1:38:12 ↗ Recreation I thought it was SC and I

1:38:14 ↗ always thought it was just shorten the

1:38:15 ↗ parks because everybody shortens Parks

1:38:17 ↗ and Recreation to Parks right or parks

1:38:19 ↗ and community service get shorten the

1:38:20 ↗ parks that's a great question maybe we

1:38:22 ↗ come back like maybe we table that

1:38:23 ↗ because at least for me a big part part

1:38:26 ↗ of this is also the recreation piece

1:38:28 ↗ right there's a lot of getting healthy

1:38:30 ↗ and being outside and doing things kids

1:38:32 ↗ so and he manages so much of you take

1:38:35 ↗ care of the friend and who who uses what

1:38:40 ↗ that's I get excited to come and share

1:38:42 ↗ because there's like I said there's a

1:38:44 ↗ lot of different service units I me when

1:38:45 ↗ you think about the community center

1:38:47 ↗ pool Senior Center pic bar Athletics and

1:38:49 ↗ sports and field reels I get excited

1:38:51 ↗ because they do a lot each team does a

1:38:53 ↗ phenomenal work and it's so great to

1:38:55 ↗ come here and just share some of that so

1:38:56 ↗ I always appreciate the opportunity for

1:38:58 ↗ that I get the time thing would you be

1:39:01 ↗ willing to come back I be happy to yeah

1:39:04 ↗ absolutely oh totally and hey I so

1:39:07 ↗ appreciate that was well done and a

1:39:09 ↗ great no enrich conversation I

1:39:11 ↗ appreciate all the it's fun to I've

1:39:13 ↗ lived in from Whole wife so you I played

1:39:15 ↗ on that field when I was a kid right so

1:39:17 ↗ it's fun to hear the conversation just

1:39:19 ↗ it's I love the different viewpoints you

1:39:21 ↗ want to highlight rentals right

1:39:24 ↗ nowly you have a breakdown of rentals or

1:39:27 ↗ or oh there's just one so I we could

1:39:29 ↗ save it for the actual presentation for

1:39:32 ↗ the

1:39:33 ↗ big got lights and stuff and smoke that

1:39:36 ↗ are

1:39:40 ↗ come like come does it mess up our

1:39:45 ↗ subsequent

1:39:48 ↗ agenda good question I I don't don't

1:39:51 ↗ think it will if Brian is willing to

1:39:54 ↗ come back again um which I'm sure he is

1:39:58 ↗ um I don't think it'll throw us off

1:40:00 ↗ greatly if we if we bring this back to

1:40:03 ↗ go

1:40:04 ↗ first to go first I would still stay

1:40:07 ↗ anyways I love like conversations that's

1:40:10 ↗ why we do what we do um okay well then

1:40:13 ↗ we will bring this item back to the

1:40:16 ↗ board for our

1:40:19 ↗ Pati Okay so then we're going to switch

1:40:22 ↗ to

1:40:23 ↗ reports um we don't have um youth

1:40:28 ↗ Representatives because finals are

1:40:31 ↗ approaching we're all studying

1:40:33 ↗ diligently

1:40:35 ↗ tonight um director's report which it's

1:40:38 ↗ GNA be you right yes it's gonna be me in

1:40:40 ↗ place of Jeff um so for director's

1:40:43 ↗ reports we're in the New Year we just

1:40:45 ↗ wanted to bring the board's attention to

1:40:48 ↗ sort of our larger departmental work

1:40:51 ↗ plan which I shared in the agenda um as

1:40:54 ↗ well as our um parkboard specific work

1:40:58 ↗ plan that we have for the rest of 2024

1:41:01 ↗ um so for the Department work plan you

1:41:05 ↗ know it's it's listed out by all the

1:41:07 ↗ different divisions that are within um

1:41:09 ↗ parks and community services for the

1:41:12 ↗ most part the the items that end up

1:41:14 ↗ coming to the park board are the items

1:41:16 ↗ that are within Park planning and

1:41:18 ↗ development and our park operations with

1:41:20 ↗ some items from Recreation um and just

1:41:23 ↗ noting that you know our Human Services

1:41:25 ↗ there's a Human Services Commission that

1:41:27 ↗ works with them on some of the work plan

1:41:28 ↗ items um and then we have our Arts

1:41:31 ↗ commission so the Arts items kind of go

1:41:33 ↗ to that board so all of the the

1:41:35 ↗ departmental work that we have also goes

1:41:38 ↗ through sort of the boards and

1:41:39 ↗ commissions for for public input and

1:41:41 ↗ touch points and and that feedback um

1:41:45 ↗ and then I also just wanted to bring

1:41:48 ↗ everyone's attention to sort of a new um

1:41:51 ↗ version of our work plan I know we had

1:41:53 ↗ had a working document that we did last

1:41:55 ↗ year um that was attached under these

1:41:57 ↗ director's reports and sort of updated

1:41:59 ↗ every month the topics that we covered

1:42:02 ↗ and sort of what was coming up um our

1:42:04 ↗ hope with this new version is to sort of

1:42:07 ↗ go a little bit more in depth of what

1:42:09 ↗ each of these topics are and what we're

1:42:11 ↗ hoping to cover with you all as a board

1:42:13 ↗ um I use this in of my meetings with

1:42:15 ↗ that we have with um Chris and marleene

1:42:18 ↗ before the meeting um to sort of think

1:42:20 ↗ through are there items in here that

1:42:22 ↗ need to get moved up are there things we

1:42:24 ↗ need to move down is there more detail

1:42:26 ↗ that we need to add in here um and I

1:42:28 ↗ also want to open that up to all of you

1:42:30 ↗ as parkboard members as well if as

1:42:32 ↗ you're going through this document if

1:42:34 ↗ there are things that you think should

1:42:35 ↗ come to the board sooner that you think

1:42:38 ↗ could get pushed to the board later um

1:42:41 ↗ it's a pretty tentative schedule so

1:42:43 ↗ you'll see like some different color

1:42:44 ↗ coding in here um I hope it makes sense

1:42:47 ↗ but um we've sort of thought about the

1:42:50 ↗ first quarter of meetings that we have

1:42:52 ↗ and what what needs to come because we

1:42:54 ↗ have like plan adoption that needs to

1:42:56 ↗ happen for some of these items um but

1:42:59 ↗ flexibility with some of the other items

1:43:01 ↗ for when they come um and yeah just

1:43:05 ↗ wanted to bring everyone's attention to

1:43:07 ↗ that it will still be a working document

1:43:09 ↗ so it will change it will move um we

1:43:11 ↗ will update it as we've sort of gone

1:43:13 ↗ through some of these topics um and

1:43:16 ↗ there is space for things that maybe we

1:43:18 ↗ didn't um pull out this year but that

1:43:20 ↗ are other things that we as a department

1:43:22 ↗ are working on um that might make sense

1:43:24 ↗ to come to the board a little bit later

1:43:26 ↗ so um those are my two updates for

1:43:29 ↗ director's

1:43:30 ↗ report anything else we're good good

1:43:35 ↗ okay um with that I'll pass it over to

1:43:38 ↗ Craig okay and it for my report

1:43:42 ↗ um the last couple of them have been

1:43:45 ↗ abbreviated appreciably and this one

1:43:47 ↗ will be somewhat um

1:43:51 ↗ the main thing is uh you know we have a

1:43:52 ↗ lot of opportunities around here uh two

1:43:55 ↗ items that I always check or two

1:43:56 ↗ calendars I already check are as SPS and

1:43:59 ↗ trails and flisp and the reason why I

1:44:01 ↗ look at them is they have you know

1:44:04 ↗ opportunities that we may not realize

1:44:06 ↗ through you know regular Rex calendars

1:44:09 ↗ and such um they have this qu on Trails

1:44:13 ↗ has a geology hike they have two Coal

1:44:15 ↗ Mine history hikes they have two uh

1:44:18 ↗ green restoration opportun unities and

1:44:21 ↗ they have two Partnerships with BAL of

1:44:23 ↗ sound green uh

1:44:25 ↗ green green I don't know why I that

1:44:28 ↗ written that way um and then with uh

1:44:30 ↗ fisp they have some sort of more fun um

1:44:33 ↗ items but to get you into that Park

1:44:35 ↗ which is you know truly part of our uh

1:44:38 ↗ system and they have a bird count you

1:44:41 ↗ know these are on February in February

1:44:43 ↗ and then they have a painting in the

1:44:45 ↗ park they've had a few of them uh that's

1:44:48 ↗ in March so I encourage you to please

1:44:50 ↗ please look at the trails Club calendar

1:44:54 ↗ and the fisp

1:44:57 ↗ calendar friends of Lake samam State

1:45:01 ↗ Park many years ago I helped create that

1:45:04 ↗ acronym and we had no choice but to live

1:45:07 ↗ with

1:45:08 ↗ [Laughter]

1:45:12 ↗ it that's it for

1:45:14 ↗ me uh do we have any other business or

1:45:16 ↗ announcements that a would

1:45:19 ↗ like

1:45:21 ↗ Brad goad Brad hey Chris uh you know

1:45:25 ↗ both two great organizations one more

1:45:27 ↗ that I might add to the plate would be

1:45:29 ↗ uh that's really starting to take off is

1:45:31 ↗ the urban Wildlife Refuge

1:45:34 ↗ partnership uh trout unlimited now

1:45:36 ↗ actually has a director of that

1:45:38 ↗ organization uh they work out of uh the

1:45:41 ↗ state park and also with trout unlimited

1:45:44 ↗ but um I mean that's an organization

1:45:46 ↗ that was we formed a number of years ago

1:45:49 ↗ it's really started starting to take off

1:45:51 ↗ now um Alex is the is the director of it

1:45:56 ↗ um and um might even be good to bring

1:45:59 ↗ her in sometime to have a little talk I

1:46:02 ↗ know you mentioned to to maybe bring

1:46:04 ↗ some of these organizations in to say

1:46:06 ↗ what they do but the nice thing about

1:46:08 ↗ the urban Wildlife Refuge partnership is

1:46:11 ↗ it's kind of a combination of

1:46:15 ↗ um you know of all of the different

1:46:18 ↗ organizations int to to use that as a

1:46:23 ↗ almost as a clearing house to some

1:46:24 ↗ extent so it goes beyond even what fiss

1:46:27 ↗ can offer to the community so put that

1:46:30 ↗ on your on your radar screen to take a

1:46:33 ↗ look at it you might even take a look at

1:46:34 ↗ their Facebook page to get um you know

1:46:37 ↗ an idea of what they're doing

1:46:39 ↗ so thanks thank

1:46:42 ↗ you anyone

1:46:46 ↗ else okay surprisingly with that finish

1:46:51 ↗ uh six minutes early so I'll call the

1:46:53 ↗ meeting to journ thank you

1:46:56 ↗ everyone thank you Brian

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Chris Kovac

Marlene Waxse

Andrew Eliquen

David Liu

Nicholas Lee (Virtual)

Brenda Spears

Tim Motely (Virtual)

Ryan Olson

Bradley Book

Andrew Myers

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Robin Spear, Park Planning and Development Manager

Brian Berntsen, Recreation Services Manager

Hasanthi Piyasena, Department Operations

Specialist, Parks & Community Services Community Members/ Guests

Connie Marsh, Community Member

Steve Pereira, Community Member

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