Environmental Board · Wednesday, June 8, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of April 5, 2022 (Revised)

packet pp.3–5

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 04-05-22 Environmental Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Virtual Meeting April 5, 2022 MINUTES

Minutes of April 13, 2022 (Revised)

packet pp.7–8

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 04-13-22 Environmental Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Virtual Meeting April 13, 2022 MINUTES

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Board Training

Information · Tisha Gieser, City Clerk · packet pp.9–19

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Staff report:

Open Government Training JUNE 8, 2022 | ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD TISHA GIESER, CITY CLERK

ICAP Performance Dashboard

Discussion · Dale Markey-Crimp, Management Analyst · packet pp.21–22

Topics: Climate

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Staff report:

of this mock dashboard, navigation has been built in to allow the viewer to click from the landing page to view the Buildings & Energy page and the data for B.E.1: Communitywide Electricity Use.

Heat Pump Program

Discussion · Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.23–35

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Dec 6, 2021 Equity Board · Jun 1, 2022

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Staff report:

Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

Clean Building Initiative

Discussion · Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.37–48

Topics: Elections

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Dec 6, 2021

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Staff report:

through energy efficiency requirements. This law requires all “covered commercial” buildings that are 50,000 square feet or greater to meet energy performance standards and report on those standards or face penalties. Timelines for compliance vary depending on the building size. Penalties take effect for the largest buildings in 2026, with compliance needing to be met for one year in advance of the deadline. Buildings that meet the size requirement, but are already in compliance, will still need to report to the State every five years. Along with the compliance requirements, the State passed an Early

5. REPORTS

Waste Hauler Contract Update Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager

packet pp.49–50

Topics: Climate

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Staff report:

2022 Environmental Board Schedule (tentative) All meetings are at 6:30 unless noted otherwise. (updated 5/19/22)

Environmental Board Schedule Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager

Topics: Climate

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0:02 ↗ all right go ahead jamie

0:04 ↗ thank you stacy um welcome to the june

0:07 ↗ 8th meeting of the issaquah

0:09 ↗ environmental board i'm jamie finch and

0:11 ↗ i'll be chairing tonight's meeting

0:14 ↗ the state of washington and the city of

0:15 ↗ issaquah continues to have a declared

0:17 ↗ emergency due to the covet 19 pandemic

0:20 ↗ under chapter 115 laws of 2022 eshb 1329

0:26 ↗ the city of issaquah has determined that

0:28 ↗ an in-person meaning cannot be held with

0:30 ↗ reasonable safety due to these factors

0:32 ↗ this meeting is being held remotely um

0:35 ↗ through the virtual format of tonight's

0:37 ↗ meeting i'd like to start by providing

0:38 ↗ some guidelines uh we have participants

0:41 ↗ attending by computers and others who

0:42 ↗ may be attending by phone for all

0:44 ↗ meeting attendees please speak clearly

0:46 ↗ and pause frequently state your name

0:49 ↗ each time before speaking mute your

0:51 ↗ microphone when not speaking if having

0:53 ↗ technical difficulty try joining the

0:56 ↗ meeting using a different device or use

0:58 ↗ the call and information and the meeting

0:59 ↗ invite to call into the meeting

1:02 ↗ um commissioners please and we have a

1:03 ↗ couple updates here so i know we've gone

1:05 ↗ through this a lot but uh

1:07 ↗ maybe don't let your eyes glaze over for

1:09 ↗ this part as we do have some things that

1:10 ↗ um worth worth uh stacey noted but

1:13 ↗ didn't want to call out um

1:15 ↗ because we do have a couple updates um

1:18 ↗ to indicate a desire to speak send a

1:20 ↗ chat to all panelists and type question

1:22 ↗ or comment then wait to be acknowledged

1:24 ↗ by the chairs um in response to some

1:26 ↗ feedback we received from some board

1:28 ↗ members um we are opening up the option

1:32 ↗ to provide a comment in chat we will

1:35 ↗ need to read that out loud to get it on

1:37 ↗ the record but if you're not comfortable

1:40 ↗ providing a comment for whatever reason

1:41 ↗ um

1:42 ↗ verbally

1:44 ↗ you can now

1:45 ↗ feel free to

1:46 ↗ include that in the chat we will then

1:48 ↗ read that to get it on the record i

1:50 ↗ would still encourage anyone that's

1:51 ↗ comfortable to continue using the format

1:53 ↗ that we have been using especially

1:55 ↗ because at the point that we go in

1:57 ↗ person we'll need to go to that route

1:59 ↗ anyways but uh we did want to provide

2:01 ↗ some flexibility just in case some

2:03 ↗ weren't as comfortable

2:06 ↗ in this virtual format speaking so

2:09 ↗ um i think one of the other items that

2:11 ↗ uh stacy also mentioned in her email

2:14 ↗ earlier this last week was um

2:18 ↗ as part of an effort to help make sure

2:19 ↗ that we're summarizing comments and

2:21 ↗ helping

2:22 ↗ stacy as well as the rest of the city um

2:25 ↗ just make sure that we're capturing our

2:27 ↗ feedback um we're going to be

2:29 ↗ summarizing what we feel we're hearing

2:31 ↗ as agreement upon

2:34 ↗ discussions that we're having as well as

2:35 ↗ any dissent that there might be from

2:37 ↗ that opinion so that's going to be a

2:39 ↗ part of the process that we're going to

2:40 ↗ be testing out tonight so

2:43 ↗ um

2:44 ↗ if you're wondering why we're doing that

2:46 ↗ uh that that's the reason but also if

2:47 ↗ there's any feedback on um what we're

2:50 ↗ summarizing or just in general in that

2:52 ↗ process i'm definitely open to it

2:54 ↗ um and then i think

2:56 ↗ with that

2:58 ↗ stacey if you're ready we could go

3:00 ↗ through attendance

3:03 ↗ great thanks jamie um tom anderson

3:08 ↗ here

3:10 ↗ matangi ramathank ramanathan

3:16 ↗ okay let's test your mic again sorry i

3:17 ↗ forgot to do that when you joined

3:20 ↗ yes okay

3:22 ↗ great thank you

3:24 ↗ uh nancy davidson who has an excused

3:26 ↗ absence

3:28 ↗ jamie finch

3:32 ↗ cameron fisher has an excused absence

3:36 ↗ rishi hasra i believe rishi is on the

3:38 ↗ phone um we have a call-in user

3:42 ↗ that begins with 837 i believe i'm gonna

3:45 ↗ unmute you i believe this is rishi

3:49 ↗ yes hello hello this is rishi

3:51 ↗ great thanks reggie um

3:54 ↗ great i will check in with you regularly

3:57 ↗ if you're not able to

3:58 ↗ join via your computer

4:02 ↗ okay dan hintz

4:06 ↗ laura lebago

4:10 ↗ ashwin manaharan has an excused absence

4:15 ↗ don mcwilliams

4:18 ↗ and newcomb

4:20 ↗ here

4:22 ↗ and janet wahl

4:28 ↗ janet i will try on muting you again see

4:30 ↗ if you're able to speak all right you're

4:32 ↗ unmuted

4:35 ↗ great thank you janet

4:38 ↗ all right jamie we do have a forum

4:39 ↗ tonight

4:42 ↗ thank you stacy um next agenda item for

4:44 ↗ us is approval of the minutes

4:46 ↗ um i believe these were the revised

4:49 ↗ uh versions of those from previous that

4:51 ↗ had previously presented and then

4:54 ↗ had been asked to get updated um are

4:56 ↗ there any comments on either of those

5:00 ↗ minutes

5:03 ↗ hearing none um

5:05 ↗ those are passed by unanimous consent

5:08 ↗ next up we have public comment

5:11 ↗ um

5:12 ↗ before i go into some guidelines stacy

5:14 ↗ do we have anyone attending we do okay

5:18 ↗ no sorry jamie no we do not oh we didn't

5:20 ↗ she was the only one on the phone and i

5:21 ↗ also did not receive any written

5:23 ↗ comments

5:25 ↗ okay well then maybe i will save us

5:27 ↗ from going through that part of

5:30 ↗ my script um i believe with that it

5:32 ↗ takes us to our first agenda item which

5:35 ↗ i don't know if stacy or fish is going

5:37 ↗ to take it from here but whichever one

5:40 ↗ is take it away

5:44 ↗ thank you jimmy i'll go ahead and um

5:46 ↗ hand it right over to tisha go ahead

5:49 ↗ perfect um so hi everybody i'm tisha

5:52 ↗ geezer city clerk and i think i've met

5:55 ↗ all of you um

5:56 ↗ before i we have some some veteran board

5:59 ↗ members here i see um mathony it's nice

6:02 ↗ nice to meet you welcome to the to the

6:04 ↗ board um so tonight i'm gonna provide um

6:07 ↗ a training that we provide to all new

6:09 ↗ boarding commission members but then we

6:10 ↗ also like to just provide this brief

6:13 ↗ training to all board members annually

6:15 ↗ as a refresher um because the majority

6:18 ↗ of you um are tenured i'm gonna try and

6:20 ↗ move through this quickly i see you have

6:22 ↗ a number of

6:23 ↗ other agenda items tonight

6:25 ↗ let me take a minute to share my screen

6:29 ↗ here

6:34 ↗ okay

6:52 ↗ i i continue to have this problem

6:54 ↗ recently where it's wanting to uh

6:57 ↗ share my notes screen

6:59 ↗ so let me try one more time and then if

7:01 ↗ not we'll just go forward and you'll

7:03 ↗ just get a preview

7:07 ↗ okay

7:08 ↗ okay

7:11 ↗ tisha i'm happy to bring up the

7:12 ↗ presentation as well

7:14 ↗ yeah you know it's funny i've been

7:16 ↗ sharing my screen you know for a couple

7:18 ↗ years now via webex but i um

7:22 ↗ yeah i just i've had this i had this

7:24 ↗ problem last week and it seems to be

7:28 ↗ consistently oh there we go okay

7:31 ↗ okay thanks for your patience everybody

7:34 ↗ um and i wanted to start by just saying

7:36 ↗ thank you so i staffed the um the city

7:39 ↗ council meetings and last night was at

7:41 ↗ the one of the new um standing

7:44 ↗ committees of the city council and i've

7:46 ↗ just been hearing from the council

7:48 ↗ members a lot of really positive

7:50 ↗ feedback about the feedback being

7:53 ↗ provided by the environmental board um

7:56 ↗ and i i know you know you're a new board

7:58 ↗ and you've you've just really you've

8:00 ↗ really hit the ground running and are

8:02 ↗ providing input on you know a lot of

8:04 ↗ topics so the tip um

8:06 ↗ last night they were talking about the

8:08 ↗ title 18 update and i just just wanted

8:10 ↗ to share with you that your input is

8:12 ↗ being

8:13 ↗ verbalized discussed appreciated um at

8:16 ↗ these city council meetings and just

8:18 ↗ wanted to thank you you know for

8:19 ↗ volunteering your time um to you know

8:22 ↗ make make our city a better place it's a

8:24 ↗ really it's a big commitment so

8:27 ↗ so thank you um

8:29 ↗ and with that i'm just gonna quickly

8:31 ↗ move through this training um if there

8:32 ↗ are any questions please feel free to um

8:36 ↗ you know indicate in the chat and uh

8:38 ↗ jamie or stacy i'll look for you to

8:40 ↗ interrupt me if a question comes through

8:43 ↗ so tonight i'm going to talk to you

8:46 ↗ about washington state's oh goodness one

8:48 ↗ of my faithful slides also got missed

8:50 ↗ tonight um but

8:52 ↗ i'm going to touch on the washington

8:54 ↗ state's two sunset or sorry sunshine

8:56 ↗ laws we call them because they shine

8:58 ↗ light on um

9:00 ↗ on local and state government and so

9:03 ↗ they're intended to ensure

9:05 ↗ public access to information and

9:07 ↗ decision making

9:09 ↗ and they impact you because you're

9:10 ↗ volunteering on one of the city's

9:12 ↗ advisory boards

9:14 ↗ so as i mentioned earlier i know you've

9:17 ↗ all been through this training with the

9:18 ↗ exception of mathongi but it we like to

9:21 ↗ provide annually just as a reminder so

9:24 ↗ there's just not an inadvertent

9:25 ↗ violation of one of these um

9:28 ↗ two two laws so we want to increase your

9:31 ↗ knowledge reduce reduce risk for all of

9:33 ↗ us

9:35 ↗ um so one of the so the two laws that

9:38 ↗ i'll speak to um are the public records

9:41 ↗ act and the open public meetings act so

9:43 ↗ the first one we're i'm going to talk to

9:45 ↗ you about is the public records act and

9:47 ↗ the public records act

9:50 ↗ establishes a lot of requirements for

9:52 ↗ government agencies

9:54 ↗ it tells us that we have to keep our

9:56 ↗ records organized from damage and

9:58 ↗ destruction

9:59 ↗ we have to provide our records to anyone

10:02 ↗ in the world who asks for them that we

10:04 ↗ don't just you know we don't get to

10:06 ↗ discriminate or even ask who's asking

10:08 ↗ for them um

10:10 ↗ and uh

10:12 ↗ so this

10:13 ↗ uh law has a little relevance to your

10:17 ↗ role on the board because you might

10:19 ↗ produce some records um as you're

10:22 ↗ serving on the environmental board so by

10:24 ↗ and large all your materials are coming

10:26 ↗ to you through stacy through the city um

10:28 ↗ so those materials you know we're

10:30 ↗ keeping track of you do not need to

10:32 ↗ worry about

10:33 ↗ some records you may have um

10:36 ↗ that we may not have might be things

10:38 ↗ like notes that you're taking as you

10:39 ↗ prepare for a meeting if you take notes

10:42 ↗ um keep them organized um you can get

10:45 ↗ rid of notes there we call them

10:46 ↗ transitory records they don't have

10:48 ↗ long-term

10:50 ↗ value to the uh

10:52 ↗ amid our records rules so what i'd

10:54 ↗ encourage you to do is if you're keeping

10:56 ↗ notes and supporting documents just

10:58 ↗ dispose of those routinely um you know

11:01 ↗ once you're done with them and they've

11:03 ↗ served their purpose if we got a public

11:05 ↗ records request for notes for our from

11:07 ↗ our environmental board members we would

11:09 ↗ be reaching out to you and we would ask

11:10 ↗ you if you had anything and if you did

11:11 ↗ we would provide it to the person who'd

11:13 ↗ requested it

11:15 ↗ this goes with along with email as well

11:17 ↗ we really encourage you to um email to

11:21 ↗ copy stacy or other city staff when

11:23 ↗ you're

11:24 ↗ emailing um

11:26 ↗ that's going to come into play a little

11:27 ↗ later when we talk about the open public

11:29 ↗ meetings act but it also ensures the

11:31 ↗ emails getting captured in one of our

11:33 ↗ city systems but you may be emailing

11:36 ↗ directly with a member of the public or

11:38 ↗ directly with each other

11:39 ↗ in a limited capacity and if so um we

11:43 ↗ could ask you for those communications

11:46 ↗ and so it's helpful if you um keep your

11:49 ↗ emails organized that are related to

11:51 ↗ your role on the

11:53 ↗ board in some of our boards and

11:55 ↗ commissions um individuals will choose

11:57 ↗ to just open a separate

11:59 ↗ email account just to really make sure

12:01 ↗ that they're keeping all their board um

12:03 ↗ correspondence in one place and that's

12:05 ↗ certainly something you're welcome to do

12:08 ↗ um but mostly we want you to to stay

12:10 ↗ organized with what you have and be

12:13 ↗ prepared to um to

12:15 ↗ let us know if we ask um what kind of

12:18 ↗ records you might have because you do

12:20 ↗ have an obligation to search

12:24 ↗ so that is really all i'm going to talk

12:26 ↗ about on the public records act and

12:28 ↗ we're going to move now into the open

12:30 ↗ public meetings act

12:32 ↗ um and so the open public meetings act

12:35 ↗ is really about that access to

12:36 ↗ government access to decision making it

12:39 ↗ means that when a quorum which we'll

12:41 ↗ talk about a minute of the environmental

12:43 ↗ board is together the public should be

12:45 ↗ in invited to be there and listen to you

12:48 ↗ listen to you talk and work through

12:49 ↗ these issues

12:52 ↗ so it means that your your meeting space

12:54 ↗ needs to be open so we've published you

12:56 ↗ know the meeting link to tonight's

12:57 ↗ meeting we've published the call-in

12:59 ↗ information so anyone can join any time

13:01 ↗ and when you move to uh in-person

13:03 ↗ meetings next month that door will be

13:05 ↗ open

13:06 ↗ it also means we provide advance notice

13:08 ↗ of all your meetings and this is

13:09 ↗ something that you know city staff that

13:11 ↗ we handle we ensure your agendas are

13:13 ↗ posted on the website in advance so

13:16 ↗ people know what to expect

13:20 ↗ um

13:21 ↗ really quickly i think you uh i know

13:24 ↗ your board has had a number of special

13:26 ↗ meetings so you've got your kind of

13:27 ↗ regular monthly meetings and at those

13:29 ↗ meetings you've got a lot of flexibility

13:31 ↗ you have a published agenda but

13:32 ↗ technically if a majority of you agree

13:36 ↗ you could bring up an issue not on your

13:39 ↗ agenda that's probably not very likely

13:41 ↗ to happen but it's a possibility at your

13:44 ↗ regular uh monthly meeting when you have

13:47 ↗ a special meeting that's at a different

13:49 ↗ day of the month time or at a different

13:52 ↗ location then there's special rules um

13:55 ↗ around your agenda items the the rule in

13:57 ↗ state law is that if you have one of

13:59 ↗ those special meetings you're limited to

14:01 ↗ talking and taking action on items on

14:03 ↗ that agenda so

14:05 ↗ stacy and the clerk's office are really

14:07 ↗ careful when we're publishing those

14:08 ↗ special agendas for you to make sure

14:10 ↗ they're comprehensive and we just like

14:12 ↗ you to be aware of that

14:15 ↗ of that requirement

14:16 ↗ uh so your meeting location uh you've

14:20 ↗ been meeting virtually for quite some

14:21 ↗ time um i heard jamie cite the current

14:24 ↗ uh state law that's requiring or

14:26 ↗ allowing for our boards and commissions

14:28 ↗ to meet virtually but

14:31 ↗ in july you'll be shifting to a

14:34 ↗ physical meeting location at tibbetts

14:36 ↗ matter and as i mentioned any from that

14:39 ↗ time on anytime you meet at a different

14:40 ↗ place different time location that will

14:42 ↗ be considered one of your special

14:44 ↗ meetings i also know you've had some

14:45 ↗ joint meetings with other boards so

14:47 ↗ those are also considered special

14:49 ↗ meetings

14:51 ↗ um so this is i've really covered this

14:53 ↗ just talk to you about the difference

14:55 ↗ between your special and regular

14:56 ↗ meetings you're a little more limited to

14:58 ↗ sticking to the agenda for those special

15:00 ↗ meetings and we do provide advanced

15:03 ↗ notice of your

15:04 ↗ meeting times and also your agenda

15:08 ↗ topics

15:11 ↗ um i we like to just let you know in

15:14 ↗ case you're um this ever occurs at one

15:16 ↗ of your meetings or maybe you're

15:18 ↗ observing one of our other boards or the

15:20 ↗ city council that the open public

15:21 ↗ meetings act does allow for closed

15:24 ↗ sessions where only the board members or

15:26 ↗ staff or city council whatever group um

15:28 ↗ talk privately but it's for really

15:30 ↗ specific purposes relating to litigation

15:32 ↗ or collective bargaining so it's

15:34 ↗ unlikely to occur but it can and if so

15:38 ↗ we have some certain requirements to

15:40 ↗ facilitate those closed sessions

15:44 ↗ um so this is one of my last slides here

15:47 ↗ and this is just a reminder about what

15:50 ↗ your your quorum is as the environmental

15:52 ↗ board so the quorum is the number of

15:54 ↗ members you need to have present to

15:56 ↗ convene your meeting and and to really

15:58 ↗ do anything you need five five members

16:01 ↗ of half of your board plus one

16:04 ↗ um

16:04 ↗ and you uh outside of your publish

16:08 ↗ environmental board meetings um we

16:10 ↗ really

16:11 ↗ work to uh encourage you to avoid

16:14 ↗ meeting

16:15 ↗ a group of five or you of you or more um

16:18 ↗ this doesn't apply to purely social

16:21 ↗ gatherings if you want to you know get

16:23 ↗ together to to celebrate something and

16:25 ↗ have just like a purely social

16:28 ↗ gathering at a local restaurant or

16:30 ↗ someone's backyard that is totally fine

16:33 ↗ um but we are careful with um events you

16:36 ↗ know for example that you might want to

16:39 ↗ participate in that are related to

16:41 ↗ um you know the

16:43 ↗ one of the topics that might come before

16:45 ↗ the environmental board that multiple of

16:47 ↗ you might want to attend we really

16:50 ↗ strongly encourage that you um

16:52 ↗ empower you know three or even four

16:56 ↗ members to attend and then bring back

16:57 ↗ information to the full group because

16:59 ↗ technically if there are five of you

17:01 ↗ together it could be

17:03 ↗ and technically is considered um a

17:06 ↗ meeting and so

17:07 ↗ that requires that publishing of an

17:10 ↗ agenda ensuring the meeting space is

17:12 ↗ open and we really try and avoid that

17:14 ↗ unless we're having a dedicated

17:16 ↗ environmental board meeting so i i

17:18 ↗ mentioned that as a scenario because i

17:20 ↗ know it has come up in um since in the

17:23 ↗ time the environmental board is together

17:24 ↗ there's lots of great regional

17:27 ↗ events that um i know you multiple of

17:30 ↗ you may have interest in um and just

17:32 ↗ wanted to explain some of the rationale

17:34 ↗ behind encouraging just a few to attend

17:38 ↗ rather than the full board

17:41 ↗ um and then the other thing i want to

17:42 ↗ touch on are just um these inadvertent

17:46 ↗ violations of open public meetings and

17:48 ↗ so the first one i just talked about

17:50 ↗ it's when you're sort of accidentally

17:53 ↗ maybe unintentionally five of you end up

17:55 ↗ at an event if that happens we just

17:58 ↗ encourage you to not gather together and

18:00 ↗ maybe one of you even consider leaving

18:03 ↗ if um

18:04 ↗ if you don't mind

18:06 ↗ the other time that this can come into

18:08 ↗ play kind of inadvertently is

18:10 ↗ something we call a string meeting and

18:13 ↗ this happens when there's like

18:14 ↗ collective accumulation of five board

18:17 ↗ members input that's being kind of

18:20 ↗ furthered so this can be like a

18:22 ↗ conversation one of you has with another

18:25 ↗ one or two board members and then one of

18:28 ↗ the three

18:30 ↗ maybe let's say three board members then

18:32 ↗ goes and talks to another board member

18:34 ↗ and shares all that input on that topic

18:37 ↗ with now a fourth board member and that

18:40 ↗ fourth board member is just buzzing you

18:42 ↗ know with

18:43 ↗ interest in this and so they go and

18:45 ↗ reach out to a fifth board member and

18:47 ↗ share all that input you've now kind of

18:49 ↗ got some sort of deliberating happening

18:52 ↗ outside of an open public meeting so we

18:54 ↗ just encourage you to be mindful of that

18:57 ↗ number five um we want you to be mindful

19:00 ↗ about emailing because that's a really

19:01 ↗ easy place for that to be to happen so

19:04 ↗ if you have if you want to share um a

19:06 ↗ perspective or information with the

19:09 ↗ board please work with stacy

19:12 ↗ she can she can help steward that

19:15 ↗ forward

19:17 ↗ that's everything i wanted to cover here

19:19 ↗ again if you have questions

19:21 ↗ please feel free to let me know there

19:24 ↗ are some penalties for violations of the

19:26 ↗ open public meetings act so there's

19:28 ↗ individual penalties for the person who

19:30 ↗ who made the violation which is why we

19:32 ↗ want to make sure all our board and

19:34 ↗ commission and council members are aware

19:37 ↗ and it can implicate the action

19:40 ↗ taken

19:41 ↗ by the board

19:45 ↗ uh so i um for mathinky uh i

19:49 ↗ would encourage you to please fill out

19:51 ↗ our conflict of interest acknowledgement

19:53 ↗ i think the rest of you have likely when

19:55 ↗ you joined the board were pointed to our

19:58 ↗ conflict of interest acknowledgement it

20:00 ↗ just explains some things to to be aware

20:03 ↗ of as part of your service on the board

20:10 ↗ and then i

20:11 ↗ lastly just wanted to touch for a minute

20:13 ↗ on your transition to in-person meetings

20:15 ↗ next month

20:16 ↗ so we've had a lot of facility changes

20:18 ↗ at the city since going into covid we've

20:21 ↗ decided to

20:23 ↗ transition out of one of our large city

20:26 ↗ buildings that housed our permitting

20:28 ↗ center and also had one of our

20:30 ↗ frequently used board and commission

20:32 ↗ meeting rooms um so we've

20:35 ↗ been

20:36 ↗ we're using some some other city spaces

20:39 ↗ as we um

20:41 ↗ bring back our boards and commissions to

20:43 ↗ in-person meetings and for the

20:44 ↗ environmental board that will be um

20:47 ↗ tibbetts manor so i it's off of state

20:50 ↗ route 900 i'm guessing most of you are

20:52 ↗ familiar with the location it was used

20:55 ↗ as a rental facility for weddings and

20:58 ↗ events prior to covid

21:00 ↗ it now is a set up as a hybrid meeting

21:04 ↗ place

21:05 ↗ um we are expecting the ex the

21:07 ↗ expectation um from uh the mayor and the

21:11 ↗ city's leadership is that our board and

21:13 ↗ commission members would be attending in

21:15 ↗ person

21:16 ↗ but there will be a virtual element for

21:19 ↗ the public to utilize if they want to

21:22 ↗ tune into your meetings

21:24 ↗ via webex or make comments from home

21:27 ↗ it's also possible that some of your

21:29 ↗ presenters may present virtually

21:33 ↗ i know this means that you likely will

21:35 ↗ need excused absences because um you

21:37 ↗ know with the nice thing about attending

21:39 ↗ meetings from home is you know if you're

21:42 ↗ um you know

21:43 ↗ feeling a little unwell or you're maybe

21:45 ↗ even in a different location you can

21:47 ↗ still attend

21:48 ↗ going forward that will be different so

21:51 ↗ please just remember to let stacy know

21:53 ↗ if you have planned travel really five

21:56 ↗ days in advances is

21:59 ↗ really helpful really the more notice

22:01 ↗ you can provide the better so you need

22:02 ↗ that quorum to get your meetings going

22:05 ↗ um and certainly if you have a last

22:07 ↗ minute situation that comes up like an

22:09 ↗ illness or unexpected

22:12 ↗ emergency just provide any amount of

22:14 ↗ advance notice you can so that you can

22:16 ↗ have that excused absence

22:20 ↗ we also do have a stipend policy uh

22:23 ↗ for folks who meet certain

22:26 ↗ income

22:27 ↗ there is some income eligibility that

22:29 ↗ comes with this program but it does

22:31 ↗ provide a stipend per meeting to use

22:33 ↗ towards transportation or child care

22:35 ↗ costs so if you have interest in

22:37 ↗ utilizing that stipend please please

22:40 ↗ reach out

22:41 ↗ to stacy she can direct you um to the

22:45 ↗ application for that i think that's all

22:47 ↗ i have to cover here so i'm going to

22:49 ↗ stop sharing my screen again thank you

22:52 ↗ so much for having me tonight and uh let

22:54 ↗ me know if you have any questions

22:57 ↗ all right tisha this is jamie i had a

22:59 ↗ couple questions

23:00 ↗ um one

23:02 ↗ if you could just maybe share a little

23:04 ↗ guidance on how to and how not to

23:07 ↗ interact with

23:08 ↗ um public comments

23:10 ↗ both before and during the meeting that

23:12 ↗ would be great

23:16 ↗ sure so is this um just about the best

23:20 ↗ way

23:21 ↗ to facilitate them is are there any

23:25 ↗ things that have come up specifically or

23:27 ↗ you just want to judge a comment yeah

23:29 ↗ the question is is fairly general but i

23:31 ↗ think it's

23:32 ↗ just thinking through

23:34 ↗ for example should we be responding

23:36 ↗ to

23:37 ↗ a like

23:38 ↗ that that that's the situation that has

23:40 ↗ come up like what is the right way to

23:42 ↗ engage or not to engage with those

23:44 ↗ comments and it could be very general

23:47 ↗ but that that was that was one of the

23:49 ↗ things that had prompted us

23:51 ↗ okay yeah that's a good question so your

23:54 ↗ meetings need to be open there's

23:55 ↗ actually not a requirement that public

23:58 ↗ input be taken but obviously you're

24:00 ↗ interested to know we we want to know

24:02 ↗ what the community thinks about these

24:03 ↗ issues so all of the boards and

24:05 ↗ commissions have that public comment

24:07 ↗ opportunity um

24:09 ↗ for the most part at the beginning of

24:11 ↗ their um

24:12 ↗ at the beginning of their agendas so you

24:15 ↗ know we

24:16 ↗ read through um

24:18 ↗ i'll talk to you about what that looks

24:20 ↗ like at the at the city council which is

24:23 ↗ um and and i think it's appropriate so

24:24 ↗ these these are your working meetings

24:27 ↗ this is the one time a month that we

24:29 ↗ have you to provide valuable input on

24:32 ↗ you know a litany your board in

24:34 ↗ particular is very busy a litany of

24:36 ↗ topics that have time frames associated

24:39 ↗ with them and so the goal is

24:41 ↗ that that's one of the main goals of the

24:42 ↗ meeting public comment needs to happen

24:45 ↗ um

24:46 ↗ but

24:48 ↗ our the guidelines that we've typically

24:50 ↗ taken with public comment at counselor

24:52 ↗ board and commission meetings is it's

24:54 ↗ not a dialogue so it's the it's your

24:57 ↗ opportunity to hear from the public

24:59 ↗ their opportunity to share with you

25:00 ↗ within that time constraint we do

25:02 ↗ encourage you to be as even with that

25:04 ↗ five minutes as possible as consistent

25:07 ↗ as possible but it isn't it isn't

25:09 ↗ intended to be a conversation now the

25:11 ↗ board could have a different kind of

25:13 ↗ meeting if you wanted more dialogue you

25:15 ↗ wanted to have like a more informal

25:18 ↗ meeting where that was an aspect of it

25:21 ↗ more conversational but i would say for

25:22 ↗ your standard public comment engaging

25:24 ↗ back

25:25 ↗ um you you could ask for

25:28 ↗ or offer that a follow-up would be

25:30 ↗ provided

25:31 ↗ um you could

25:33 ↗ that staff could help provide a

25:34 ↗ follow-up or

25:35 ↗ a board member could hear you know say

25:38 ↗ someone from the public poses some

25:40 ↗ questions and you as a board member like

25:42 ↗ oh those are good questions

25:44 ↗ you pose the questions you know you can

25:46 ↗ be a steward of that um

25:49 ↗ that question but i i would say that um

25:52 ↗ typically it's a you know they have that

25:54 ↗ amount of time they can speak pretty

25:56 ↗ much on whatever they want as long as

25:58 ↗ it's not um you know

26:00 ↗ uh uh

26:04 ↗ what am i trying to say

26:05 ↗ pretty much on anything they want

26:07 ↗ they're so they can't like

26:09 ↗ try and sabotage your meaning and make

26:11 ↗ you know

26:12 ↗ loud inappropriate sounds and things

26:14 ↗ like that but by and large they can talk

26:15 ↗ about whatever they want in that time

26:18 ↗ yeah that's super helpful

26:20 ↗ um we have one ques i have one more

26:22 ↗ question but i'll jump to ann um who has

26:25 ↗ a question for you

26:28 ↗ thank you

26:29 ↗ and hey tisha good to see you this is

26:31 ↗ anne newcomb

26:33 ↗ um i'm curious to know

26:36 ↗ how what are the guidelines around

26:39 ↗ signing petitions um that

26:42 ↗ have to do with um subjects that we have

26:45 ↗ covered

26:48 ↗ okay that's um that's a good question

26:50 ↗ ann i i'll i'll offer some thoughts on

26:53 ↗ that and then um

26:55 ↗ you know i might that might be something

26:56 ↗ that if that i might also respond after

27:00 ↗ the meeting if i um i would like to sit

27:02 ↗ on that for a little bit i think you

27:04 ↗ know as an individual you're not

27:06 ↗ restricted by being on the environmental

27:08 ↗ board in

27:09 ↗ in forwarding your your viewpoints um so

27:12 ↗ the only thing to be mindful of is just

27:15 ↗ that you're um

27:16 ↗ you're sure like you wouldn't sign the

27:19 ↗ petition and newcomb you know member of

27:23 ↗ the environmental board or you know chi

27:26 ↗ if you were a chair or vice chair you

27:27 ↗ wouldn't you know put that next to your

27:29 ↗ name um you know and i think just just

27:32 ↗ being clear too when you're talking to

27:35 ↗ people

27:35 ↗ um that you are clear whether you're

27:38 ↗ representing yourself or representing a

27:42 ↗ adopted recommendation from the

27:45 ↗ environmental board and those are two

27:46 ↗ different things so you know when people

27:48 ↗ make public comment um at the meetings

27:51 ↗ you know some people will say i'm

27:52 ↗ representing this entity you know

27:55 ↗ they've got either because of their

27:56 ↗ position or because there's an adopted

27:58 ↗ position but um

28:00 ↗ so

28:01 ↗ you would just want to be mindful of of

28:03 ↗ doing that i don't see an issue with you

28:05 ↗ signing a petition as an individual

28:07 ↗ though

28:12 ↗ that's uh are you uh need anything else

28:15 ↗ on that and or

28:17 ↗ you could okay don you had a question go

28:19 ↗ ahead

28:20 ↗ yeah tisha building off of jamie's

28:22 ↗ question a little bit you you referenced

28:24 ↗ public comments what about the emails we

28:26 ↗ received we get a lot of comment by

28:27 ↗ email ahead of the meetings are we

28:30 ↗ allowed to respond to those emails or do

28:33 ↗ we just

28:34 ↗ table them and bring them back to the

28:36 ↗ meeting

28:38 ↗ yeah you know emails can be i think

28:41 ↗ handled in lots of different ways so you

28:44 ↗ know something that the city council has

28:46 ↗ done but i think it can be really

28:47 ↗ challenging but um they made a decision

28:50 ↗ during kovid that the council president

28:53 ↗ does attempt to summarize email that's

28:56 ↗ come in related to agenda items

28:59 ↗ on that night's agenda but you know

29:01 ↗ that's challenging because that means

29:03 ↗ you know you need to be able to monitor

29:04 ↗ your email sometimes emails come in

29:06 ↗ right before a meeting

29:08 ↗ and then summarizing comments can be

29:10 ↗ hard too sometimes if someone is writing

29:12 ↗ you paragraphs

29:14 ↗ um

29:15 ↗ i think that um having just

29:18 ↗ you know i think a response is is

29:20 ↗ probably important at least at a minimum

29:22 ↗ in acknowledgement and whether that's

29:24 ↗ coming from staff on behalf of the board

29:27 ↗ or whether that's something that you um

29:30 ↗ that could be something you talk about

29:31 ↗ as a board um is there interest in

29:33 ↗ having the chair um

29:35 ↗ or another member

29:37 ↗ respond on behalf of the board

29:41 ↗ nothing's precluding you from responding

29:43 ↗ individually as a board member

29:46 ↗ but it's important to think kind of back

29:49 ↗ to that conversation with ann when

29:51 ↗ you're providing your response you know

29:53 ↗ you're wearing your environmental board

29:54 ↗ hat in that response so

29:57 ↗ you would need to be again if it's

29:59 ↗ something the environmental board had

30:01 ↗ already weighed in on and you could

30:03 ↗ convey that

30:05 ↗ to the person otherwise you know you um

30:09 ↗ it wouldn't be harmful to share your

30:10 ↗ personal viewpoint but you would just

30:12 ↗ need to be clear that the environmental

30:13 ↗ board hadn't taken a formal position on

30:16 ↗ that topic but thank you for their input

30:18 ↗ um and i think if there's uh you know if

30:21 ↗ there's gray area there you're unsure

30:23 ↗ how to respond it's helpful to have

30:25 ↗ staff you know

30:26 ↗ let us help you let stacy help you um

30:31 ↗ so that that's

30:32 ↗ that's all i have to say on that topic

30:34 ↗ it's not a bad topic for the board to

30:36 ↗ talk about um

30:38 ↗ how how you'd if you'd like a more you

30:40 ↗ know uniform more of a process around

30:42 ↗ that

30:45 ↗ thank you that's helpful

30:49 ↗ thanks trisha we i just have one more

30:51 ↗ question and it relates to the fact that

30:53 ↗ we've never actually met in person

30:56 ↗ um

30:57 ↗ and

30:59 ↗ so my question relates to when

31:01 ↗ as part of taking an

31:02 ↗ action like we have typically

31:05 ↗ written down any motions

31:08 ↗ and so i'm curious what that process

31:10 ↗ looks like not in a virtual format could

31:12 ↗ you just walk us through what that might

31:14 ↗ look like

31:16 ↗ yeah so i can tell you the city council

31:19 ↗ moved back to in-person meetings in

31:20 ↗ march and um it was the motion's

31:23 ↗ actually been one of the bigger

31:24 ↗ adjustments for for me the chat was such

31:27 ↗ a nice tool for someone who had a

31:29 ↗ thought that you know and wanted to get

31:31 ↗ it in writing and we could quick we can

31:33 ↗ quickly get it in front of everyone that

31:35 ↗ just isn't um as

31:37 ↗ possible as quickly um with the

31:40 ↗ in-person meeting so that might mean

31:43 ↗ someone writing something out um i know

31:45 ↗ i've talked to stacy i know the board is

31:48 ↗ is wanting to make an effort to try and

31:50 ↗ kind of settle on

31:52 ↗ the recommendation and the wording of

31:54 ↗ the input um in advance and so that can

31:57 ↗ mean you know sharing a screen sharing

31:59 ↗ word and typing out the motion um

32:04 ↗ so that that's a possibility i think

32:07 ↗ that all takes a little more time so you

32:09 ↗ can always take an at ease in your

32:11 ↗ meeting which is like a no one gets up

32:14 ↗ and runs away but you just there's just

32:16 ↗ a pause and you go off off air the

32:19 ↗ recording would get paused and you could

32:21 ↗ give someone a few minutes to to write

32:24 ↗ out emotion and get their wording

32:26 ↗ correct um and then reconvene

32:29 ↗ um

32:31 ↗ so those are my two thoughts screen

32:33 ↗ sharing just taking a minute to get

32:35 ↗ things written down and you know some

32:37 ↗ meeting prep can be helpful too to have

32:39 ↗ some potential

32:40 ↗ wording ready as much as possible

32:46 ↗ thanks that's really helpful i think

32:48 ↗ we'll we'll definitely want to when we

32:49 ↗ actually have action to be taken want to

32:52 ↗ do a little refresher and figure out

32:54 ↗ make sure we have that process to find

32:56 ↗ um

32:57 ↗ i'm not seeing any other

32:59 ↗ questions

33:01 ↗ um from the board so

33:04 ↗ i think thank you tisha for joining us

33:07 ↗ um

33:08 ↗ and uh i'm sure if there's any other

33:10 ↗ questions that the board has after this

33:12 ↗ that they can feel free to reach out to

33:13 ↗ you but really appreciate you for taking

33:15 ↗ the time to join us

33:17 ↗ thank you

33:20 ↗ all right with that i think uh

33:23 ↗ next up

33:24 ↗ agenda item is icap performance

33:26 ↗ dashboard

33:29 ↗ great good evening members of the

33:31 ↗ environmental board uh my name is dale

33:33 ↗ markey crimp i'm one of the management

33:35 ↗ analysts here at the city and

33:37 ↗ specifically the work that i do most

33:39 ↗ frequently centers in our performance

33:41 ↗ measurement and data analytics work

33:45 ↗ as i mentioned in the memo that you

33:47 ↗ received in your packet ahead of

33:48 ↗ tonight's meeting the real purpose of

33:50 ↗ our time together tonight is to

33:54 ↗ solicit some perspectives and some

33:56 ↗ feedback from this board on the

33:59 ↗ development of a performance and

34:01 ↗ tracking dashboard for the climate

34:04 ↗ action plan

34:05 ↗ this is something that

34:07 ↗ stacy and i have been in conversation

34:09 ↗ about over the last couple of months but

34:11 ↗ we think it's time to bring

34:13 ↗ this potential tool and what it could

34:15 ↗ look like to this particular group of

34:16 ↗ people you represent the stakeholders

34:19 ↗ that we think will use this tool the

34:22 ↗ most alongside staff members

34:24 ↗ to ensure that we're making the progress

34:27 ↗ against these ambitious goals that we

34:28 ↗ have

34:30 ↗ [Music]

34:31 ↗ as the memo outlined we're at a little

34:33 ↗ bit of a

34:34 ↗ we're in a little bit of creation phase

34:37 ↗ um i i won't use this sort i won't like

34:39 ↗ pull up a human-centered design

34:41 ↗ uh map and show you where we are but

34:44 ↗ we're kind of a little bit in ideation

34:46 ↗ still and so part of uh what i'll show

34:49 ↗ you tonight and what was included in the

34:50 ↗ packet are some examples of the current

34:52 ↗ dashboards that exist within our city's

34:55 ↗ uh

34:56 ↗ emergent dashboarding initiative

34:59 ↗ and then the two questions that we

35:01 ↗ really will spend hopefully the most of

35:02 ↗ our discussion time on this evening

35:05 ↗ are as follows

35:07 ↗ what's the overall structure

35:09 ↗ that you think would be the most

35:11 ↗ intuitive and informative for sharing

35:13 ↗ ongoing progress

35:15 ↗ towards the goals outlined in the icap

35:18 ↗ and what information would you most like

35:20 ↗ to see featured in the dashboard

35:23 ↗ so what i'm planning to do is i'm going

35:25 ↗ to share my screen in a moment and show

35:26 ↗ you a few of the dashboards that already

35:28 ↗ exist that i linked within the memo

35:30 ↗ and then we'll look at them the mock-ups

35:32 ↗ that also were linked at the very end um

35:34 ↗ and so i'll uh i'll kind of walk through

35:37 ↗ those

35:38 ↗ and

35:39 ↗ we'll potentially save questions to the

35:41 ↗ end and it'll be pretty easy i think to

35:43 ↗ move back and forth be like oh wait

35:44 ↗ could you go back to that dashboard and

35:46 ↗ show me this feature again

35:47 ↗ before i jump in though are there any

35:50 ↗ initial questions thoughts

35:52 ↗ things that folks want to make sure to

35:54 ↗ get out there and the table before we

35:56 ↗ jump in

36:00 ↗ okay

36:02 ↗ let's see

36:12 ↗ okay can you currently see can i just

36:14 ↗ get a thumbs up if you can see my chrome

36:16 ↗ uh browser that's showing the citywide

36:18 ↗ homeless dashboard a thumbs down

36:22 ↗ a gray gridded screen

36:24 ↗ oh that's not good okay one second

36:30 ↗ and move this over here

36:35 ↗ it's never what you want to hear when

36:37 ↗ you go to share something you never want

36:39 ↗ the thumbs down

36:44 ↗ oh i see we've got a whole bunch of

36:46 ↗ things on here

36:48 ↗ yeah you're good just the boxes are in

36:50 ↗ front i think that's looking good now is

36:52 ↗ that looking good now can you see uh

36:54 ↗ hopefully this dashboard great i've

36:55 ↗ moved you over to my other screen

36:57 ↗ excellent so i'm just going to walk very

36:59 ↗ briefly through the sort of public

37:01 ↗ facing side of each of these dashboards

37:04 ↗ right now the city is mainly using one

37:06 ↗ tool for its data analytics which is

37:08 ↗ microsoft power bi

37:10 ↗ we're also currently exploring

37:12 ↗ using some tools connected to arcgis so

37:16 ↗ while arcgis is known probably amongst

37:19 ↗ the folks on this call too this is often

37:22 ↗ known as a sort of

37:23 ↗ geographical tool it also has been

37:25 ↗ expanded over the last few years to

37:27 ↗ really

37:29 ↗ provide more data analytics

37:31 ↗ opportunities but the the main

37:32 ↗ dashboarding tool we're using right now

37:34 ↗ is power bi and we're largely using that

37:36 ↗ because a lot of our data analytics work

37:38 ↗ is sort of in its nascent stage we're

37:40 ↗ just

37:42 ↗ just gathering the data just putting

37:44 ↗ together the dashboards and so

37:46 ↗ um

37:48 ↗ i think that there's an opportunity to

37:49 ↗ evolve these over time and of course all

37:51 ↗ our work is iterative but what you'll

37:52 ↗ see are mostly are our three dashboards

37:54 ↗ that already exist that within power bi

37:57 ↗ this is our uh the first dashboard that

37:59 ↗ we've launched the city which is our

38:01 ↗ citywide homeless outreach dashboard

38:03 ↗ what you can see right here is the way

38:04 ↗ that this works is it has some brief

38:06 ↗ directions here but it has sort of five

38:09 ↗ key performance indicators that the team

38:11 ↗ itself has decided are the real

38:14 ↗ indicators of their work

38:15 ↗ people served interactions to date

38:17 ↗ service connections

38:19 ↗ temper

38:20 ↗ individuals who've been temporarily

38:22 ↗ sheltered and then individuals who have

38:24 ↗ been permanently housed and maintained

38:25 ↗ that permanent housing

38:27 ↗ the way that you would navigate through

38:28 ↗ something like this

38:30 ↗ is to click on one of these key

38:32 ↗ indicators um it even tells you here

38:35 ↗ and it will bring you to um a little bit

38:38 ↗ more information a little bit more of a

38:39 ↗ of a visualization of that data with a

38:42 ↗ little bit of an explanation here at the

38:44 ↗ top

38:45 ↗ you can also navigate within you can see

38:47 ↗ i'm going to use this home button to go

38:49 ↗ back and click on

38:51 ↗ another indicator and bring us to

38:53 ↗ permanent housing

38:54 ↗ and so you can see another example of a

38:56 ↗ different type of visualization for how

38:58 ↗ we might show this data over time

39:01 ↗ as well as if you wanted to sort of

39:04 ↗ drill up the data so just have a group

39:06 ↗ by year

39:08 ↗ or drill down the data to see it broken

39:10 ↗ out this way

39:12 ↗ so this is just i think a good example

39:14 ↗ of one of our first dashboards a pretty

39:16 ↗ simple dashboard um it does a pretty

39:19 ↗ good job communicating in a rather

39:21 ↗ simple way uh the the work that's being

39:24 ↗ done and the progress that's being made

39:25 ↗ on this particular program at the city

39:28 ↗ next i'll just show you a similar but

39:30 ↗ different dashboard which is our

39:32 ↗ community court dashboard

39:34 ↗ the city of issaquah launched a

39:35 ↗ community court in august of this

39:38 ↗ past year

39:40 ↗ so it's coming up on its one-year

39:41 ↗ anniversary in just a couple of months

39:43 ↗ and you can see the style here is pretty

39:45 ↗ similar um and i'm going to just zoom

39:47 ↗ out a little bit so we've got a little

39:48 ↗ bit more on the screen here but you can

39:51 ↗ see similarly they've chosen some kpis

39:54 ↗ key performance indicators and they've

39:56 ↗ got one visual that they wanted to make

39:57 ↗ sure was on the front page

39:59 ↗ similarly they've got their setup so

40:02 ↗ that if you wanted to click

40:04 ↗ on any one of these

40:06 ↗ it's going to take a second but it'll

40:07 ↗ bring you to a page that'll tell you a

40:08 ↗ little bit more about in this case the

40:11 ↗ resource room which is a component of

40:13 ↗ our community court program and they've

40:16 ↗ made some decisions about having both a

40:17 ↗ visual and a scroll

40:20 ↗ uh sort of chart here

40:22 ↗ as well as some additional information

40:24 ↗ down here and a pretty good amount of

40:26 ↗ information in writing on here

40:29 ↗ there are lots of opinions about how

40:30 ↗ much text you want on the page but this

40:32 ↗ is the decision they've made

40:34 ↗ and that currently we're sticking to it

40:37 ↗ similarly you've got some a back button

40:39 ↗ a home button that allows you to move

40:41 ↗ around

40:42 ↗ internally um with also also the option

40:44 ↗ at the bottom to

40:46 ↗ click backwards and forwards here um and

40:49 ↗ so both of these are

40:51 ↗ live published dashboards you could

40:53 ↗ google them or just search for them if

40:56 ↗ you wanted to be agnostic about your

40:58 ↗ search engine search for them on the

40:59 ↗ internet and end up here able to look at

41:02 ↗ these two public-facing dashboards

41:05 ↗ got one more and then i'll pause for

41:07 ↗ some questions before we look at the

41:10 ↗ potential icap

41:11 ↗ dashboards so the last one you're

41:13 ↗ getting a little bit of a sneak peek

41:15 ↗ though i will admit it's it's already in

41:17 ↗ the public record and it's already been

41:18 ↗ in front of council you're getting uh

41:21 ↗ before before fully launched sneak peek

41:23 ↗ at our

41:24 ↗ citywide performance dashboard

41:26 ↗ uh in 2020 the the city council adopted

41:31 ↗ a number of performance measures

41:33 ↗ intended to

41:36 ↗ sort of measure over time the the health

41:38 ↗ of the city uh the vitality of the city

41:41 ↗ and have that be aligned with the six

41:44 ↗ strategic goal areas and so you can see

41:46 ↗ here

41:47 ↗ you've got this our six strategic goal

41:50 ↗ areas and the way that you move through

41:51 ↗ this again similar but different would

41:53 ↗ be and i'll show you in a minute to

41:55 ↗ click on one of these

41:57 ↗ we thought a lot about what additional

41:58 ↗ data you know you might want to have on

42:00 ↗ the front page of this dashboard and so

42:03 ↗ one thing we've got on here is just how

42:04 ↗ we're doing and how we've been doing

42:06 ↗ against our

42:08 ↗ 55 measures which are

42:11 ↗ some of them have multiple

42:13 ↗ measurement points within them which is

42:15 ↗ why these numbers here are going to add

42:17 ↗ up to more than 55 but to show us are we

42:20 ↗ approaching our target are we meeting

42:22 ↗ our target yes or no or is our target

42:24 ↗ still to be determined and so you can

42:26 ↗ see over time with a quick glance here

42:28 ↗ that um we've had actually a pretty big

42:31 ↗ increase in the last year or two in the

42:33 ↗ number of targets we're not meeting but

42:35 ↗ goodness have we really determined what

42:38 ↗ our targets have been so that number of

42:39 ↗ targets to be determined has been uh

42:42 ↗ decreased overtime

42:44 ↗ and then to move around this

42:46 ↗ similarly you could say you're really

42:49 ↗ interested i'm

42:50 ↗ i'm going to say that this group is

42:51 ↗ probably really interested in the

42:52 ↗ environmental stewardship

42:55 ↗ performance measures you'll be brought

42:57 ↗ to this environmental stewardship

42:58 ↗ landing page

42:59 ↗ where from here you can similarly again

43:02 ↗ click on one of these performance

43:04 ↗ measures uh let's click on one that

43:05 ↗ we're going to see we're not going to

43:07 ↗ see again today

43:09 ↗ so let's go ahead and i'll click on this

43:12 ↗ acres of invasive plants removed and

43:14 ↗ replanted before i click on that you'll

43:16 ↗ notice again we've got our targets here

43:18 ↗ so you can see that for the reporting

43:20 ↗ year 2021

43:21 ↗ we met five targets with an

43:23 ↗ environmental stewardship we missed four

43:25 ↗ and there's still one target that's yet

43:27 ↗ to be determined and if i wanted to say

43:29 ↗ look at oh but how did we do in 2018

43:32 ↗ i could click there and then it would

43:34 ↗ tell me again three four and three in

43:36 ↗ this case so let's go back to 2021

43:39 ↗ and let me give a little click on this

43:42 ↗ invasives

43:44 ↗ and so this is bringing us to a landing

43:46 ↗ page specifically about this one measure

43:49 ↗ in this case

43:51 ↗ volunteers

43:53 ↗ volunteer participation in green

43:54 ↗ issaquah and how many uh acres of

43:57 ↗ invasive plants they've removed and

43:58 ↗ replanted

44:00 ↗ and so you can see here we can look and

44:02 ↗ say oh wow gosh there's some interesting

44:04 ↗ information here about both the number

44:06 ↗ of volunteers and the number of hours

44:08 ↗ normally you'd think that we might see

44:10 ↗ some correlation between the two

44:13 ↗ it's actually not really playing out

44:15 ↗ that way here which is interesting and

44:16 ↗ then you can also see over here that

44:18 ↗ total

44:19 ↗ we've removed this many what you'll

44:21 ↗ notice is we only have data for two

44:23 ↗ years on acres removed and replanted

44:26 ↗ since green issaquah was only adopted in

44:28 ↗ 2019

44:29 ↗ and they make up a very tall tiny little

44:31 ↗ bit here on this visual but again you'd

44:33 ↗ be able to slice it by year so say we

44:35 ↗ just wanted to take a good look at 2017

44:38 ↗ we could take a closer look at 2017 here

44:42 ↗ similarly you could sort of do that you

44:44 ↗ could do that sort of slicing itself by

44:46 ↗ just

44:47 ↗ you're like oh what about 2020 how many

44:50 ↗ oh we removed 16 acres in 2020.

44:54 ↗ so that's a little bit of a tour of our

44:57 ↗ pre-existing

44:58 ↗ um our pre-existing dashboards and that

45:01 ↗ kind of

45:02 ↗ i'll

45:03 ↗ i'll pause here to see if there's just

45:05 ↗ any questions generally about

45:06 ↗ the dashboarding effort and initiative

45:09 ↗ um any of these three dashboards before

45:11 ↗ we turn to a conversation about

45:14 ↗ the uh the

45:15 ↗ potential mockups of the icap dashboard

45:21 ↗ thank you dale um i had one question for

45:24 ↗ you

45:25 ↗ and i think it's particularly relevant

45:26 ↗ for icap

45:29 ↗ the process of that getting that blue

45:31 ↗ bar to be narrower over time

45:34 ↗ can you share a little bit about what

45:35 ↗ that looked like because i do feel like

45:37 ↗ a lot of what we're going to need to do

45:38 ↗ a lot of the icap goals are not

45:41 ↗ easily measurable or don't have really

45:42 ↗ specific targets so i'm curious

45:45 ↗ how the rubber meets the road on like

45:47 ↗ getting those to not just be the i mean

45:49 ↗ the homeless touch points i think were

45:51 ↗ good but like i don't know what good is

45:53 ↗ there and i think so the goal setting

45:54 ↗ part of it is what i'm

45:56 ↗ interested in so if there's anything

45:57 ↗ quick to share there that would be and

45:59 ↗ we can always table this for later but

46:01 ↗ that's something that i'm particularly

46:02 ↗ interested in yeah absolutely and i

46:05 ↗ think i think that question is a great

46:07 ↗ one

46:08 ↗ uh jamie because i think that the

46:11 ↗ real challenge we're running into is

46:14 ↗ as we look around at certain

46:16 ↗ parts of the work we're trying to

46:17 ↗ measure we've got a lot that are still

46:19 ↗ tbd largely because

46:21 ↗ they were goals that we adopt or there

46:23 ↗ were measures that we adopted in kind of

46:25 ↗ a vacuum of being able to find

46:29 ↗ cities of a similar size with similar

46:31 ↗ resources with similar needs

46:34 ↗ that are also tracking this

46:37 ↗ and so a lot of it is right now issaquah

46:40 ↗ for the size that it is we're one of the

46:42 ↗ only cities that's

46:44 ↗ endeavoring to do this kind of

46:46 ↗ performance measurement at the size

46:48 ↗ we're in

46:49 ↗ i think where

46:51 ↗ potentially with icap we have

46:54 ↗ a slightly different

46:57 ↗ pathway is through the participation in

46:59 ↗ the lead for cities program i think um

47:03 ↗ clearly stacy will be able to talk more

47:04 ↗ about that but i think that there's a a

47:07 ↗ richness in data gathering and

47:08 ↗ performance measuring

47:10 ↗ that we'll be able to tap into when we

47:12 ↗ think about setting our own goals

47:15 ↗ and tracking towards

47:17 ↗ those over time so i think that there's

47:19 ↗ some we do have some resources in the

47:21 ↗ ecosystem that we can use so that we

47:24 ↗ are are more quickly able to move from

47:26 ↗ say this big

47:28 ↗ sort of thick 49 over here in 2014 down

47:31 ↗ to 10 and now 15 over here in 2021

47:35 ↗ but a lot of it is looking at other

47:37 ↗ jurisdictions that are of a similar size

47:39 ↗ similar resources

47:41 ↗ sometimes hopefully similar region

47:44 ↗ but even if we can find partner cities

47:47 ↗ that are about the same size and have

47:48 ↗ similar demographics we've been using

47:50 ↗ that to sort of pick some markers and

47:53 ↗ then i think also it's just historical

47:55 ↗ data

47:56 ↗ we'll look at the icap dash in a second

47:59 ↗ and we'll see

48:00 ↗ sometimes that historical data is

48:02 ↗ helpful it helps us know you know with a

48:04 ↗ lot of this benchmarking we think about

48:07 ↗ honestly like five to seven to sometimes

48:09 ↗ even ten years to really know what's our

48:11 ↗ baseline

48:12 ↗ um and a lot of that has to do with the

48:15 ↗ fact that especially the last two years

48:18 ↗ have not uh been a typical baseline here

48:21 ↗ so a lot of the measures when you see

48:23 ↗ this performance dashboard go live in a

48:25 ↗ couple of weeks you'll notice that

48:28 ↗ 2020 and 2021 look very irregular

48:31 ↗ compared to the historical data um and

48:34 ↗ so really if we're able to gather some

48:35 ↗ of that historical data and we do for

48:37 ↗ some of our measures have historical

48:39 ↗ data from the last five or six years

48:42 ↗ that'll also be helpful in

48:44 ↗ giving us an idea of okay if this is

48:45 ↗ where we're starting what's the

48:48 ↗ ambitious yet feasible

48:50 ↗ goal moving forward

48:54 ↗ that's helpful i mean i think overall i

48:55 ↗ was i really enjoy i think what you guys

48:58 ↗ have done with this is a great way to

49:01 ↗ look at it first are we defining goals

49:02 ↗ and then how are we doing against the

49:04 ↗ ones that we've defined so i appreciate

49:06 ↗ the additional context i'm not seeing

49:08 ↗ any other questions on this topic so

49:11 ↗ um i think we might you might be good to

49:13 ↗ move to

49:15 ↗ the mock-up

49:16 ↗ great

49:17 ↗ great great

49:18 ↗ thank you well let's dive into this so

49:20 ↗ i'll talk just a very briefly and again

49:23 ↗ this is is maybe not the the level of

49:26 ↗ beauty that we will ultimately get to

49:28 ↗ but wanted to put some ideas out there

49:30 ↗ to just see some of the different things

49:31 ↗ we might be

49:32 ↗ putting down on on uh an interactive

49:35 ↗ dashboard

49:36 ↗ and so one thing to notice there are a

49:38 ↗ couple of different examples here but

49:40 ↗ i'll sort of walk you through a general

49:41 ↗ idea

49:42 ↗ a general idea being something where

49:44 ↗ we've got a landing page that people can

49:46 ↗ come to that has some sort of important

49:49 ↗ information potentially our overall

49:52 ↗ goals up here with the ability to then

49:54 ↗ say click on some of our goal areas

49:57 ↗ within icap

49:58 ↗ but at the same time to also see what

50:00 ↗ progress are we making so specifically

50:03 ↗ in terms of when we think about the

50:04 ↗ actions outlined in the plan what what's

50:07 ↗ their status how many of them have we

50:09 ↗ launched how many of them are planned

50:11 ↗ but not yet launched how many of them

50:13 ↗ have we not even started and how many

50:15 ↗ are in progress now before you say oh my

50:18 ↗ gosh

50:19 ↗ data this is new to me this is all fake

50:21 ↗ data i made this up so

50:23 ↗ yeah don't rush to wondering where this

50:25 ↗ information came from this is yeah we

50:27 ↗ have not launched i do not think uh

50:29 ↗ we're not in the press of launching

50:30 ↗ 36.36

50:31 ↗ of our actions as outlined in the plan

50:34 ↗ nor have we uh are we at 28 over here

50:37 ↗ but there would be potentially an option

50:39 ↗ to have some sort of indicator of where

50:41 ↗ we are in

50:43 ↗ the planning launching progress

50:47 ↗ of the actions that are outlined in the

50:49 ↗ plan and the actions that the team is

50:51 ↗ outlining

50:52 ↗ as we speak

50:53 ↗ but having some sort of landing page

50:55 ↗ which then

50:56 ↗ people can click on so say there is one

50:58 ↗ that i made live for everyone if you

51:00 ↗ click on build agent energy

51:03 ↗ bringing us to a buildings and energy

51:04 ↗ page so bringing us to a landing page

51:06 ↗ that says hey here's where we are

51:09 ↗ here's what here's what's happened in

51:11 ↗ terms of our

51:12 ↗ indicators within this large goal area

51:15 ↗ and here are the actions

51:17 ↗ um sort of the the ids as outlined in

51:20 ↗ the plan

51:21 ↗ what that means the actions that we've

51:23 ↗ taken or not taking the related actions

51:25 ↗ and what the current status is as well

51:28 ↗ as the progress towards finishing that

51:30 ↗ action

51:31 ↗ um so having this here so that people

51:32 ↗ can actually scroll through and be like

51:34 ↗ okay

51:34 ↗ climate

51:36 ↗ community challenge that's the thing

51:37 ↗ that i care about where are we in that

51:40 ↗ um and then from here being able to also

51:42 ↗ click on another indicator and this

51:44 ↗ happens to be when we do have real data

51:46 ↗ on so this is live not made up data

51:49 ↗ of our community-wide electricity use

51:51 ↗ since 2017.

51:53 ↗ and so bringing people actually to see

51:54 ↗ okay what has our community-wide

51:56 ↗ electricity use been

51:58 ↗ and you can see this is by type so by

52:00 ↗ residential industrial commercial and

52:02 ↗ lighting lighting unsurprisingly quite

52:04 ↗ small on this graph but seeing a general

52:07 ↗ trend of where where were we in 2017

52:10 ↗ when we set a goal to decrease by 25

52:12 ↗ from 2017 levels how are we doing

52:15 ↗ against that um and then with you can

52:18 ↗ see this is very similar to the

52:19 ↗ performance dashboard page but with the

52:22 ↗ goal here

52:23 ↗ um total use here so this is total use

52:26 ↗ since 2017

52:28 ↗ the ability to click a reporting year in

52:30 ↗ general so if i wanted to look at 2019

52:32 ↗ and just get the cumulative for 2019

52:35 ↗ and then some information here so you

52:37 ↗ can see this is giving a little

52:38 ↗ explainer about you know where are we in

52:41 ↗ um where are we in our uh

52:44 ↗ our efforts towards this particular goal

52:46 ↗ and then being able to unclick there

52:48 ↗ similarly i'll do one more click and

52:50 ↗ then i'll i'll pause so similarly being

52:52 ↗ able to

52:53 ↗ sort of think about

52:56 ↗ um i've got one more example here uh

52:59 ↗ so from the materials and consumption

53:01 ↗ goal area this is again true data this

53:04 ↗ is what our data looks like for this

53:05 ↗ particular um for this particular goal

53:08 ↗ so you can actually see our goal is to

53:10 ↗ increase the percentage diverted right

53:13 ↗ now we're actually on a trend away from

53:14 ↗ where we want to be

53:16 ↗ as a community and so this is again

53:18 ↗ showing us commercial multi-family and

53:20 ↗ residential

53:21 ↗ uh

53:22 ↗ diversion from landfill it's showing us

53:24 ↗ this it's highlighted in pink because

53:26 ↗ it's

53:27 ↗ not hitting our goal and we can again

53:29 ↗ also go ahead and by year look

53:33 ↗ um and actually this is this is sort of

53:35 ↗ programmed so that if it if i were to if

53:37 ↗ there were a year that we were hitting

53:39 ↗ our goal um it would turn green it would

53:41 ↗ turn yellow and then when it turned

53:42 ↗ green over time so people can pretty

53:44 ↗ easily see

53:45 ↗ both the visual and also slice that data

53:47 ↗ in different ways

53:49 ↗ um

53:50 ↗ i'll do i'll say a couple more things so

53:52 ↗ i'm going to just move back through this

53:54 ↗ mock-up a little bit we might think

53:56 ↗ differently about what we want the

53:58 ↗ landing page to look like you can see

53:59 ↗ this landing page i initially showed you

54:01 ↗ is pretty long

54:03 ↗ and we have the ability to change the

54:05 ↗ canvas shape that way but it's also a

54:07 ↗ little busy and we've definitely heard

54:09 ↗ from the community groups we've engaged

54:11 ↗ with so far they like the simple they

54:13 ↗ really like that homeless outreach

54:15 ↗ dashboard because it's so simple so we

54:17 ↗ might think about something like this

54:18 ↗ which is sort of a simplified version

54:20 ↗ doesn't have that progress tracking at

54:22 ↗ the bottom

54:23 ↗ or we might think about something

54:25 ↗ that's like this which is telling you

54:27 ↗ actually how are we doing

54:29 ↗ on these different goals i think one

54:31 ↗ thing we've gone back and forth as a

54:33 ↗ staff on is that these numbers don't

54:35 ↗ mean a whole lot just floating out here

54:38 ↗ and that might be actually a little

54:39 ↗ distracting

54:40 ↗ um but again you see these colors are

54:43 ↗ the same colors as in the icap this is

54:45 ↗ sort of like a filled in version

54:47 ↗ of this

54:49 ↗ and then going back to this simpler

54:51 ↗ one right here but similarly being able

54:53 ↗ to do a click through getting to

54:55 ↗ buildings and energy

54:56 ↗ clicking through all the way to here to

54:58 ↗ community-wide electricity use

55:00 ↗ so

55:01 ↗ you know i could click and ramble for a

55:03 ↗ while that's that's not sort of why

55:04 ↗ we're here we're here to get your input

55:06 ↗ get your perspective

55:08 ↗ get your questions so just to remind us

55:10 ↗ of the two

55:12 ↗ sort of

55:13 ↗ questions we're considering tonight

55:16 ↗ what do you all think about the overall

55:18 ↗ structure

55:19 ↗ of a dashboard or for our climate action

55:21 ↗ plan that would be intuitive and

55:23 ↗ informative to share ongoing progress um

55:26 ↗ and what information would you like to

55:28 ↗ see featured on the dashboard so that's

55:30 ↗ those are the two questions we're diving

55:32 ↗ into tonight and i'm happy to take any

55:34 ↗ questions but i will likely be taking a

55:36 ↗ lot of notes

55:38 ↗ hopefully in the next bit of time

55:42 ↗ thank you dale it looks like we have our

55:44 ↗ first comment from dan

55:46 ↗ hence what then

55:49 ↗ thank you jamie thank you dale uh danan

55:51 ↗ speaking um yeah i just first i want to

55:53 ↗ say i mean really really great first

55:55 ↗ impressions um i i do i do agree when i

55:58 ↗ was looking at the three you shared and

55:59 ↗ the in the memo the homeless outreach

56:01 ↗ program definitely was the cleanest kind

56:03 ↗ of easiest to just kind of process at a

56:05 ↗ high level

56:06 ↗ um

56:07 ↗ i do think i really like you know i mean

56:09 ↗ i think ultimately there's a bottom line

56:10 ↗ to this work and it's reducing you know

56:12 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions so i think

56:14 ↗ having that up front like it is centered

56:16 ↗ right now

56:17 ↗ larger you know on the screen relative

56:19 ↗ to the five kind of priority areas is is

56:22 ↗ awesome so i think for me that is

56:24 ↗ ultimately the bottom line but then

56:25 ↗ seeing some of these nuances and the

56:26 ↗ different efforts around you know

56:27 ↗ transportation buildings all those sort

56:29 ↗ of things

56:30 ↗ um

56:32 ↗ i would be curious you know i think this

56:34 ↗ is a few tears down obviously from the

56:36 ↗ landing page but just how some of these

56:37 ↗ things are measured um i would like to

56:39 ↗ see you know some and once again maybe

56:41 ↗ not you get so nuanced about that i know

56:43 ↗ and i know we've covered some of this in

56:44 ↗ past conversations but i think just a

56:46 ↗ little bit of detail

56:47 ↗ that you can navigate to a little bit in

56:49 ↗ terms of how some of the household stuff

56:50 ↗ is measured you know year to year or

56:52 ↗ whatever the intervals are

56:54 ↗ um and then the last comment i have is

56:56 ↗ you know something that

56:57 ↗ maybe seems missing a little bit as you

56:59 ↗ know

57:01 ↗ there's a lot of community engagement

57:02 ↗ you know kind of hidden or not hidden

57:04 ↗ but you know integrated with these

57:05 ↗ different goals but i feel like some of

57:07 ↗ the more like you know even just for

57:08 ↗ example the east side climate challenge

57:10 ↗ are just you know more just direct touch

57:12 ↗ points for people in terms of education

57:14 ↗ outreach involvement so

57:16 ↗ um i feel like that's maybe just missing

57:18 ↗ a little bit and could be something that

57:19 ↗ i don't have a perfect idea of how to

57:21 ↗ track or what that looks like but just

57:23 ↗ uh

57:23 ↗ i say i don't have much of an idea of

57:25 ↗ how to track that i should say

57:26 ↗ definitely not a perfect idea but um

57:28 ↗ anyway so those are kind of my comments

57:29 ↗ first first reactions

57:31 ↗ great thanks dan

57:33 ↗ yep

57:34 ↗ thank you dan um and you're up next with

57:37 ↗ a question

57:39 ↗ all right thanks and you come here

57:41 ↗ um

57:43 ↗ yeah and i agree with uh dan it looks

57:46 ↗ great

57:47 ↗ good job

57:48 ↗ um

57:49 ↗ i'm thinking with like with buildings

57:51 ↗ and energy

57:53 ↗ we've got

57:54 ↗ the years community-wide electricity use

57:57 ↗ by year

57:58 ↗ type and year

58:00 ↗ and i'm wondering i know our population

58:02 ↗ has been growing

58:04 ↗ so

58:06 ↗ if we could do it per capita somehow um

58:09 ↗ as well so that we could see hey you

58:12 ↗ know we really are doing better it's

58:14 ↗ just our population is growing um of

58:16 ↗ course you know we have to even though

58:18 ↗ our population is growing we still have

58:19 ↗ to get our emissions down but

58:22 ↗ that is uh

58:25 ↗ that's

58:26 ↗ one thing and then you probably are

58:28 ↗ already planning on doing this but just

58:30 ↗ making sure that there's links and

58:32 ↗ connections between

58:34 ↗ this page and um

58:36 ↗ the icap web page

58:39 ↗ so people can easily navigate back and

58:41 ↗ forth i'm sure you already

58:43 ↗ thought about that

58:46 ↗ that was my main comment i think

58:48 ↗ absolutely thank you and those are great

58:53 ↗ thank you and we'll thank you up next

58:56 ↗ thank you for sharing i was very excited

58:58 ↗ to see like you know database uh like

59:00 ↗ data driven decisions and like looking

59:03 ↗ at analytics and then foods

59:06 ↗ something that i'm passionate about as

59:07 ↗ well a couple of questions i had for you

59:10 ↗ was around

59:11 ↗ i saw one markup which had a lot of

59:13 ↗ verbiage in it the other markup where it

59:16 ↗ was just numbers but you mentioned that

59:18 ↗ the numbers don't carry meaning um

59:21 ↗ wondering if you had

59:23 ↗ can you explain to me as to like if

59:25 ↗ those are the numbers that we are

59:26 ↗ measuring why why does it not matter to

59:30 ↗ us

59:32 ↗ oh that's a question that's a that's a

59:34 ↗ great question um i think a lot of what

59:37 ↗ uh

59:38 ↗ i've been discovering as i've been

59:40 ↗ engaging with different sort of i've

59:43 ↗ been doing a lot of user testing to get

59:45 ↗ a sense of okay when you click through

59:48 ↗ here and you see this visual or you see

59:49 ↗ these numbers

59:51 ↗ what do you

59:52 ↗ what do you understand what do you not

59:53 ↗ understand

59:55 ↗ and a lot of the feedback i've been

59:56 ↗ getting especially specifically on our

59:58 ↗ citywide dashboard is that there's just

1:00:01 ↗ a

1:00:02 ↗ there are there are numbers that make

1:00:03 ↗ sense to the subject matter experts in

1:00:05 ↗ that area

1:00:07 ↗ but the

1:00:08 ↗ person in the general population might

1:00:10 ↗ not really understand what that means i

1:00:12 ↗ think one thing that stacey and i have

1:00:14 ↗ discussed a few times is just

1:00:17 ↗ we actually we're talking about it for

1:00:18 ↗ water but i think kilowatt hours of

1:00:21 ↗ energy

1:00:22 ↗ i can tell you as someone that pays my

1:00:25 ↗ energy bill

1:00:26 ↗ uh i kind of understand what that is but

1:00:30 ↗ goodness

1:00:31 ↗ is it kind of a meaningless number to be

1:00:33 ↗ like oh three billion kilowatt hours of

1:00:36 ↗ energy

1:00:37 ↗ and so one of the things that i've been

1:00:39 ↗ thinking a lot about is how this

1:00:40 ↗ dashboard can be an educational tool not

1:00:43 ↗ just a tracking tool so there's

1:00:45 ↗ some thing that we could compare it to i

1:00:47 ↗ think one thing stacy and i've talked

1:00:48 ↗ about this with water and she's used the

1:00:50 ↗ example of you know how many pools how

1:00:53 ↗ many like olympic sized swimming pools

1:00:54 ↗ is this and so really starting to think

1:00:57 ↗ about for some of these measures that

1:01:01 ↗ are meaningful but meaningful with

1:01:03 ↗ context what's the context we can

1:01:05 ↗ provide that's relatively pithy

1:01:09 ↗ um so that people you know i think

1:01:11 ↗ they say on average eight seconds now is

1:01:13 ↗ about as much time as you have to grab

1:01:15 ↗ someone's attention so what's the pithy

1:01:18 ↗ uh context we can provide that'll make

1:01:21 ↗ that data meaningful so i think a good

1:01:23 ↗ example is like kilowatt hours how can

1:01:25 ↗ we really quickly tell someone you know

1:01:27 ↗ this is

1:01:28 ↗ you know your

1:01:30 ↗ dishwasher

1:01:31 ↗ running uses this many kilowatt hours of

1:01:34 ↗ energy so that they very quickly

1:01:35 ↗ understand oh gosh we're using how we're

1:01:37 ↗ running how many dishwashers equivalents

1:01:40 ↗ um or is is this much in the average

1:01:44 ↗ issaquah residence

1:01:47 ↗ electricity bill something like that

1:01:49 ↗ could also be a helpful just touch point

1:01:51 ↗ to draw people back to

1:01:53 ↗ a more personally felt example of the of

1:01:56 ↗ how this data manifests in their life

1:01:59 ↗ um

1:01:59 ↗ yeah

1:02:01 ↗ makes sense and uh the comment from you

1:02:03 ↗ is more like you know very much in line

1:02:05 ↗ with what you are hinting like a persona

1:02:07 ↗ base like you want to create awareness

1:02:09 ↗ of what is what are the different

1:02:11 ↗ initiatives and the drill down uh could

1:02:14 ↗ be that i don't know if you have

1:02:15 ↗ experimented power bi metrics uh it was

1:02:18 ↗ released with like you can actually have

1:02:20 ↗ like here are the goals here the targets

1:02:22 ↗ and you know this is how it's trending

1:02:24 ↗ over time and you can actually add

1:02:25 ↗ comments whether it's on track

1:02:27 ↗ everything in a single page so you can

1:02:29 ↗ actually see it i just wanted to share

1:02:31 ↗ that that might be something you want to

1:02:33 ↗ explore

1:02:34 ↗ amazing thank you i'll definitely look

1:02:36 ↗ further into that

1:02:40 ↗ thank you matangi um next up tom

1:02:43 ↗ give a comment

1:02:48 ↗ uh yes so i just want to say i i'd

1:02:51 ↗ really like the uh drilling down being

1:02:53 ↗ able to descend down and see more

1:02:55 ↗ information as a as a geek who likes to

1:02:58 ↗ see the the data that's cool but i just

1:03:01 ↗ want to emphasize

1:03:03 ↗ uh keeping it simple and clean at the

1:03:05 ↗ top is really important you just lose

1:03:08 ↗ lose so many people so i just want to

1:03:11 ↗ emphasize at the time at the highest

1:03:13 ↗ level it's got to be clean and simple

1:03:16 ↗ and easy to relate to

1:03:18 ↗ uh but then being able to drill down i i

1:03:22 ↗ like i like

1:03:24 ↗ to be able to see the details

1:03:26 ↗ um

1:03:27 ↗ i was a little bit worried about the one

1:03:30 ↗ example you showed there of kilowatt

1:03:32 ↗ hours of electricity usage isn't that

1:03:34 ↗ great it's going down but just

1:03:36 ↗ cautioning that well with our

1:03:40 ↗ reduction reducing

1:03:42 ↗ natural gas use we might actually go up

1:03:45 ↗ in our electricity use so that has to be

1:03:47 ↗ balanced

1:03:49 ↗ it's really the total

1:03:52 ↗ energy use

1:03:53 ↗ and also while electricity clean

1:03:56 ↗ green electricity is

1:03:58 ↗ is

1:04:00 ↗ shouldn't be measured in the same way as

1:04:02 ↗ the dirty electricity and

1:04:06 ↗ natural gas so anyway there's some

1:04:09 ↗ nuance there to what kind of energy

1:04:11 ↗ we're using that needs to be considered

1:04:13 ↗ in that equation as well

1:04:16 ↗ that's all i had thank you

1:04:19 ↗ great

1:04:21 ↗ rishi you're up next

1:04:23 ↗ hello rishi speaking um one i wanted to

1:04:26 ↗ say i think it's it looks great and i'm

1:04:28 ↗ glad to see that the city in such a

1:04:30 ↗ short amount of time has been able to

1:04:31 ↗ put this together

1:04:32 ↗ um one thing i would say is like it i

1:04:35 ↗ think would be more beneficial if the

1:04:37 ↗ database itself was larger and perhaps

1:04:41 ↗ took up more of the actual page um so

1:04:44 ↗ it'd be easier to see and

1:04:47 ↗ i think

1:04:48 ↗ it would seem more like

1:04:49 ↗ an actual

1:04:51 ↗ dashboard there

1:04:52 ↗ and also i think i agree with tom that

1:04:56 ↗ making the first thing that people see

1:04:58 ↗ much less complex so you can click

1:05:00 ↗ through the different sectors you can

1:05:02 ↗ see like the uh progress bar

1:05:04 ↗ and see where we are with each of the

1:05:06 ↗ goals

1:05:07 ↗ and just for a very quick visual

1:05:09 ↗ reference so people whether they're

1:05:10 ↗ interested in just researching the city

1:05:12 ↗ if they're from other cities or if

1:05:14 ↗ they're within our city and they're

1:05:15 ↗ trying to see what our city is doing

1:05:17 ↗ um it'll make for a quick easy

1:05:18 ↗ interpretation but then also

1:05:20 ↗ making uh

1:05:22 ↗ enabling them to go into the further

1:05:24 ↗ details and then that at that point i

1:05:26 ↗ don't think that the

1:05:29 ↗ cleanness or like the um

1:05:31 ↗ uh

1:05:32 ↗ visual appeal is as necessary but at

1:05:34 ↗ that point just making sure they can get

1:05:36 ↗ the data easily uh by clicking through

1:05:39 ↗ and then

1:05:40 ↗ having it organized basically logically

1:05:42 ↗ which i think it is right now

1:05:47 ↗ thank you rishi i'm just going to read a

1:05:49 ↗ couple comments that were shared um

1:05:51 ↗ matagi had shared a link to some more

1:05:53 ↗ information on uh power bi metrics um

1:05:58 ↗ and then don shared that he would echo

1:06:00 ↗ tom's comments of keeping it simple at a

1:06:02 ↗ high level but having the option to

1:06:04 ↗ drill down where your interests lie

1:06:06 ↗ great job

1:06:08 ↗ comment

1:06:09 ↗ tom you had another comment

1:06:13 ↗ uh actually more of a question i'm just

1:06:15 ↗ wondering how these uh this microsoft bi

1:06:18 ↗ tools work for uh automatically adapting

1:06:22 ↗ a level of information for

1:06:25 ↗ mobile devices versus the big screen

1:06:28 ↗ presentation this is an increasing

1:06:31 ↗ problem and more and more people are are

1:06:33 ↗ getting everything they look at on their

1:06:35 ↗ little handheld device

1:06:37 ↗ versus something big

1:06:40 ↗ and a lot of platforms are getting

1:06:43 ↗ pretty good at

1:06:44 ↗ adapting to the screen size but that

1:06:47 ↗ could be a major challenge

1:06:49 ↗ so i'm just kind of curious how how the

1:06:51 ↗ tooling you have in place deals with

1:06:53 ↗ that particular problem

1:06:56 ↗ great question tom

1:06:58 ↗ one that you can imagine i have been

1:07:00 ↗ thinking a lot about um

1:07:03 ↗ what i'm finding we just so we did a lot

1:07:04 ↗ of uh

1:07:06 ↗ we did a lot of research i think before

1:07:08 ↗ landing on pursuing power bi for as one

1:07:11 ↗ of our tools they're sort of as i

1:07:13 ↗ mentioned in the memo we're also looking

1:07:15 ↗ at arcgis options

1:07:17 ↗ uh power bi i would say

1:07:20 ↗ is the best

1:07:23 ↗ of what is a so i would say it's better

1:07:25 ↗ than tableau

1:07:26 ↗ and better than a few other analytics

1:07:28 ↗ tools that i've seen in terms of being

1:07:30 ↗ able to actually click around on it on

1:07:32 ↗ your phone um unfortunately it doesn't

1:07:36 ↗ have a has a

1:07:38 ↗ mobile view option for

1:07:41 ↗ people who have a power bi license um it

1:07:44 ↗ doesn't right now currently there's some

1:07:46 ↗ optimizers that um are pretty good and

1:07:49 ↗ so i've been able through the same sort

1:07:51 ↗ of user forum that uh this sort of

1:07:54 ↗ information is that we just shared in

1:07:56 ↗ the chat is

1:07:58 ↗ directs you to i've been able to get

1:07:59 ↗ some updates about like oh how what's

1:08:01 ↗ the workaround for this it's not

1:08:03 ↗ as

1:08:05 ↗ great as you would hope and so one of

1:08:06 ↗ the reasons that we're sort of looking

1:08:08 ↗ at also what could an arcgis experience

1:08:11 ↗ dashboard look like maybe a year or two

1:08:14 ↗ from now when we have more of the data

1:08:16 ↗ um they're

1:08:18 ↗ they're doing they've got some more

1:08:20 ↗ options in terms of mobile sort of setup

1:08:22 ↗ that can be seen

1:08:24 ↗ pretty clearly i would say on a phone

1:08:27 ↗ specifically

1:08:29 ↗ this is a new hot off the press

1:08:31 ↗ dashboard the city of seattle has just

1:08:33 ↗ put together a new dashboard for their

1:08:35 ↗ their their homeless outreach efforts

1:08:37 ↗ and they've done that using an esri

1:08:39 ↗ arcgis tool and it opens really nicely

1:08:42 ↗ in the phone and sort of reformats

1:08:44 ↗ automatically

1:08:45 ↗ so we're looking at that as like the

1:08:48 ↗ sort of 2.0 iteration for our

1:08:49 ↗ dashboarding efforts where we would

1:08:51 ↗ embed

1:08:52 ↗ the visualizations that we're creating

1:08:54 ↗ in power bi into potentially an arcgis

1:08:57 ↗ experience and still use that power bi

1:09:00 ↗ dashboard in a more regular

1:09:02 ↗ quarterly way

1:09:03 ↗ but potentially use an arcgis experience

1:09:06 ↗ for sort of our annual updated report

1:09:09 ↗ that's a little bit more move through it

1:09:11 ↗ intuitive um but absolutely the mobile

1:09:13 ↗ view piece is is i think

1:09:15 ↗ i think we're all all of the all the

1:09:18 ↗ data analytics

1:09:20 ↗ tools seem to be starting to talk about

1:09:21 ↗ that

1:09:22 ↗ but it's something that's definitely a

1:09:23 ↗ little bit limiting i would say in

1:09:25 ↗ general

1:09:30 ↗ thank you dale i had a

1:09:32 ↗ few comments myself this is jamie um

1:09:34 ↗ one i do think on your question of how

1:09:37 ↗ to make this as applicable and

1:09:38 ↗ understandable to the widest group um as

1:09:41 ↗ possible i actually think that's for the

1:09:43 ↗ comprehensive plan or the strategic plan

1:09:45 ↗ version that you sent us i actually

1:09:47 ↗ think that that does a really good job

1:09:49 ↗ by

1:09:50 ↗ not actually talking about the specific

1:09:51 ↗ metrics but are we meeting our goal or

1:09:53 ↗ not to a certain extent

1:09:55 ↗ relying on the city and the person has

1:09:58 ↗ to trust that

1:09:59 ↗ the city is setting goals that are

1:10:01 ↗ reasonable and of course the subject

1:10:02 ↗ matter expert can drill down and decide

1:10:04 ↗ whether they think that goal is

1:10:05 ↗ reasonable

1:10:06 ↗ but i think that makes it's almost kind

1:10:09 ↗ of the ultimate kind of simplifier by

1:10:11 ↗ saying are we doing well are we not

1:10:13 ↗ doing well and then if you're interested

1:10:14 ↗ here's more data on why we think we're

1:10:16 ↗ doing well or not doing well so i think

1:10:17 ↗ that's one

1:10:19 ↗ two things that i think um might be

1:10:21 ↗ missing or maybe just aren't in scope

1:10:23 ↗ for this

1:10:24 ↗ one

1:10:25 ↗ i think it would be really helpful so

1:10:27 ↗ having our our carbon reductions is

1:10:30 ↗ helpful

1:10:31 ↗ putting that in context of where we need

1:10:32 ↗ to be and where we're at on that walk i

1:10:35 ↗ think is a really

1:10:36 ↗ helpful part piece of context that um i

1:10:39 ↗ just think that this like knowing what

1:10:41 ↗ the what's the goal what are we trying

1:10:42 ↗ to get to at the end of the day and how

1:10:44 ↗ are we progressing towards it again i

1:10:46 ↗ think is is going to be helpful

1:10:47 ↗ and then two

1:10:49 ↗ i think one aspect that again i don't

1:10:51 ↗ know if this is going to be a part of

1:10:52 ↗ like a separate implementation plan or

1:10:54 ↗ that's like what i'm really curious is

1:10:56 ↗ how does the public go and understand

1:10:58 ↗ what's actively being worked on right

1:11:00 ↗ now and so is it gantt view is it

1:11:01 ↗ something that helps really easily

1:11:03 ↗ understand progress and concurrent

1:11:06 ↗ active actions um and i think this also

1:11:09 ↗ relates back to the community aspect so

1:11:12 ↗ there's going to be certain community

1:11:14 ↗ like items that go for an extended

1:11:16 ↗ period of time there's others that might

1:11:17 ↗ be for a certain time period and so

1:11:20 ↗ being able to help the public identify

1:11:22 ↗ what is active and what isn't would be

1:11:24 ↗ super helpful and that may be

1:11:26 ↗ not what this tool or this dashboard is

1:11:28 ↗ intended for but if this is kind of

1:11:31 ↗ where everything's being presented on

1:11:32 ↗ this i do think that that's a

1:11:34 ↗ potentially maybe the most important

1:11:36 ↗ part of all of this is

1:11:38 ↗ is making sure that the community knows

1:11:39 ↗ what status is on

1:11:42 ↗ all of the items that might be going on

1:11:43 ↗ or

1:11:45 ↗ that might prompt questions as to why

1:11:46 ↗ we're not focusing on certain things so

1:11:48 ↗ i think that that view it might not be

1:11:51 ↗ the first view but i think being able to

1:11:52 ↗ understand sequencing would be super

1:11:54 ↗ important

1:11:56 ↗ and i think with that

1:11:58 ↗ looks like we have looks like ann has a

1:12:00 ↗ comment

1:12:05 ↗ comment slash question i guess thanks

1:12:08 ↗ and and newcomer here so i notice um the

1:12:11 ↗ baseline is or we're comparing to is

1:12:14 ↗ 2017

1:12:16 ↗ which

1:12:17 ↗ might be because um

1:12:20 ↗ of the commerce goals washington

1:12:23 ↗ commerce schools um

1:12:26 ↗ but um king county the king county

1:12:29 ↗ cities climate collaborative or the k4c

1:12:32 ↗ um their baseline is 2007.

1:12:35 ↗ so i'm just wondering um

1:12:38 ↗ what the thinking is of

1:12:40 ↗ starting with 2017

1:12:44 ↗ do you know

1:12:46 ↗ that's a great question but i'm i'm

1:12:47 ↗ going to punt to stacy on that

1:12:51 ↗ yeah thanks um i think that was our last

1:12:53 ↗ greenhouse gas inventory so i think

1:12:54 ↗ that's what we're looking back at

1:12:57 ↗ but we'll make sure with each of the

1:12:58 ↗ metrics that we're clearly defining what

1:13:01 ↗ that baseline is

1:13:05 ↗ great thanks yeah

1:13:07 ↗ and i was just going to follow up on

1:13:08 ↗ jamie's comment too i think that

1:13:10 ↗ showing which actions are underway and

1:13:13 ↗ their progress was one of the first

1:13:15 ↗ things i said to dale i really wanted to

1:13:17 ↗ make sure this tool did

1:13:18 ↗ and even

1:13:19 ↗ more important to me is which actions

1:13:21 ↗ are not underway and are there barriers

1:13:23 ↗ that we're facing i think that will be

1:13:26 ↗ an incredible communication tool for the

1:13:28 ↗ public but also for our council to say

1:13:31 ↗ we haven't been able to take

1:13:33 ↗ make any progress on this particular

1:13:35 ↗ action here's why

1:13:37 ↗ and is there an opportunity to to knock

1:13:39 ↗ down those barriers and make progress

1:13:45 ↗ thank you stacy um

1:13:47 ↗ i'm not seeing any other comments

1:13:51 ↗ dale if there's any other specific

1:13:52 ↗ questions that you would want to

1:13:54 ↗ ask of of this group now would be the

1:13:57 ↗ time or else i'll try my hand at

1:13:59 ↗ summarizing everything we've talked

1:14:00 ↗ about for the first time

1:14:03 ↗ no i think rather than complicating that

1:14:05 ↗ further for you um i will

1:14:08 ↗ just thank this group you know i will be

1:14:10 ↗ back

1:14:12 ↗ i have missed my opportunity to do an

1:14:14 ↗ arnold that very bad arnold

1:14:15 ↗ schwarzenegger impression so you're

1:14:16 ↗ welcome for that um but excited really

1:14:19 ↗ really appreciate the input and excited

1:14:21 ↗ to be back um soon to show you the next

1:14:24 ↗ iteration of this as we get ready to

1:14:27 ↗ think about what it what it could look

1:14:28 ↗ like to go live um either next quarter

1:14:31 ↗ or the quarter after so thank you both

1:14:33 ↗ thank you all so much

1:14:36 ↗ thank you dale and now i'll please if

1:14:38 ↗ you feel like this is not capturing this

1:14:41 ↗ discussion um

1:14:43 ↗ feel free to indicate that and speak to

1:14:45 ↗ what you think making this but

1:14:47 ↗ at least what i was hearing from the

1:14:49 ↗ group was keeping it simple and making

1:14:51 ↗ sure that as much of it was

1:14:54 ↗ easy for someone to put into context

1:14:56 ↗ whether that be through goal setting or

1:14:59 ↗ making the

1:15:00 ↗ metrics kind of putting it in people's

1:15:02 ↗ own language um

1:15:04 ↗ as well as helping the public understand

1:15:07 ↗ where there was opportunity for them to

1:15:09 ↗ engage in measures or actions that were

1:15:13 ↗ um actually involving the community

1:15:15 ↗ directly

1:15:16 ↗ um i think

1:15:18 ↗ those were the overarching themes if

1:15:20 ↗ there's anything else that

1:15:22 ↗ people feel i missed

1:15:24 ↗ please please let me know but that was

1:15:26 ↗ that was what uh what i took away

1:15:34 ↗ great well i don't

1:15:35 ↗ see any pitchforks or

1:15:37 ↗ anything so it looks like i didn't do

1:15:38 ↗ too bad of a job on that

1:15:40 ↗ um so i think with that thank you dale

1:15:43 ↗ for your time and i think our next

1:15:45 ↗ agenda item stacy will be presenting

1:15:48 ↗ um so i appreciate your time dale and

1:15:50 ↗ stacey feel free to take it away

1:15:53 ↗ great thanks jimmy thanks so much dale

1:16:00 ↗ give me one moment here i'm just gonna

1:16:03 ↗ bring up some slides

1:16:07 ↗ all right so the first topic i'm going

1:16:09 ↗ to be talking about tonight is on the

1:16:11 ↗ heat pump program for low income

1:16:13 ↗ residents

1:16:25 ↗ jamie you're able to see

1:16:29 ↗ slide

1:16:38 ↗ right

1:16:39 ↗ um well this was this item and the next

1:16:42 ↗ agenda item were

1:16:44 ↗ um somewhat they were not items we had

1:16:46 ↗ originally planned to talk about today

1:16:48 ↗ um i have been giving you some briefings

1:16:50 ↗ on them over the last couple of months

1:16:53 ↗ but with a pending conversation with

1:16:55 ↗ council we thought it would be best to

1:16:57 ↗ bring

1:16:58 ↗ these topics to the board in more detail

1:17:01 ↗ and get your feedback tonight prior to

1:17:03 ↗ presenting to council

1:17:05 ↗ so as you all know

1:17:07 ↗ buildings are

1:17:09 ↗ the most rapidly growing source of

1:17:10 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions in washington

1:17:12 ↗ state

1:17:13 ↗ in issaquah buildings and homes account

1:17:16 ↗ for 61 of our greenhouse gas emissions

1:17:19 ↗ investing in building energy efficiency

1:17:22 ↗ is a very cost effective way to reduce

1:17:24 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions

1:17:26 ↗ it also seems to me that finding

1:17:28 ↗ opportunities to work with existing

1:17:30 ↗ buildings to support energy efficiency

1:17:32 ↗ or greenhouse gas reductions can often

1:17:34 ↗ be one of the more challenging areas to

1:17:37 ↗ implement

1:17:38 ↗ so we are proposing to move forward with

1:17:40 ↗ a heat pump program which is a

1:17:42 ↗ opportunity to work with our existing

1:17:44 ↗ buildings

1:17:45 ↗ and tonight i'm going to be speaking

1:17:47 ↗ specifically to our equity focus of that

1:17:49 ↗ program

1:17:52 ↗ so the city is partnering

1:17:55 ↗ um

1:17:56 ↗ oh and so my images aren't coming

1:17:58 ↗ through hopefully those will show up

1:17:59 ↗ later um the city is partnering with the

1:18:02 ↗ nonprofit organization spark northwest

1:18:04 ↗ as well as the cities of kirkland mercer

1:18:07 ↗ island bellevue and redmond to run a

1:18:09 ↗ heat pump program

1:18:11 ↗ we have also been in conversations with

1:18:13 ↗ imagine housing hope link and the king

1:18:16 ↗ county housing authority

1:18:17 ↗ in order to really

1:18:19 ↗ maximize the funding that we're putting

1:18:21 ↗ forward and to work with them to

1:18:24 ↗ identify

1:18:25 ↗ the residents that are most in need of

1:18:27 ↗ energy upgrades

1:18:29 ↗ as residents of the northwest face more

1:18:31 ↗ extreme heat events and seek to

1:18:33 ↗ electrify their homes heat pumps are a

1:18:35 ↗ really attractive solution they provide

1:18:38 ↗ both heating and cooling in a single

1:18:40 ↗ package they reduce our carbon emissions

1:18:43 ↗ they can lower utility bills and also

1:18:45 ↗ tend to create a more comfortable home

1:18:48 ↗ for 2022 our program is going to run on

1:18:51 ↗ two parallel tracks one is a market rate

1:18:55 ↗ program that is really modeled after the

1:18:58 ↗ solarize program if folks were around in

1:19:01 ↗ believe that was 2017

1:19:03 ↗ it's a very similar program to the

1:19:05 ↗ solarize program

1:19:06 ↗ and then the other track of our heat

1:19:08 ↗ pump program

1:19:10 ↗ is one that will provide

1:19:13 ↗ energy efficiency grants at really

1:19:16 ↗ covering 100 percent of the cost of

1:19:18 ↗ installation for heat pumps to

1:19:21 ↗ residents that live at 80 percent or

1:19:24 ↗ below area immediate median income

1:19:28 ↗ our market weight program for homeowners

1:19:30 ↗ is just about to launch

1:19:32 ↗ within the next couple weeks i can speak

1:19:34 ↗ to that program more if there's interest

1:19:36 ↗ tonight but really did want to focus

1:19:39 ↗ this evening on our low-income component

1:19:42 ↗ of the program

1:19:46 ↗ so i am planning to

1:19:48 ↗ come to council in the next couple of

1:19:50 ↗ weeks with a request for 125 000 to

1:19:54 ↗ support the low income component of the

1:19:56 ↗ heat pump program

1:19:57 ↗ it is an initial request for what we see

1:20:01 ↗ is the initial year to support

1:20:03 ↗ this program and the residents at 80 or

1:20:06 ↗ below that area median income

1:20:10 ↗ we

1:20:11 ↗ actually intend to be working more with

1:20:13 ↗ residents that are 50 percent um that

1:20:16 ↗ ami are below

1:20:18 ↗ funding at the level that we're

1:20:20 ↗ requesting to council will put us on par

1:20:23 ↗ with other east side cities that have

1:20:26 ↗ committed resources to supporting

1:20:28 ↗ low-income

1:20:30 ↗ heat pump installations

1:20:33 ↗ our goal is to have this component of

1:20:35 ↗ the program fully fund insulation and

1:20:37 ↗ about 20 units of subsidized housing or

1:20:41 ↗ potentially for aging and place seniors

1:20:44 ↗ that total number that we're able to

1:20:46 ↗ achieve is really going to depend on the

1:20:48 ↗ unit type the final installation cost

1:20:51 ↗ the additional grants that we secure

1:20:54 ↗ and other incentives available from pse

1:20:57 ↗ and the king county housing authority

1:21:01 ↗ the upgraded heating and cooling systems

1:21:03 ↗ funded through the program

1:21:05 ↗ we originally had estimated to save

1:21:07 ↗ about 500 to 1500 per home on energy

1:21:11 ↗ costs there's a lot of factors that go

1:21:13 ↗ into determining how much

1:21:16 ↗ is saved in utility costs it depends on

1:21:18 ↗ what the existing heating source is

1:21:22 ↗ and the type of system that's installed

1:21:24 ↗ those numbers have come from our partner

1:21:26 ↗ and their work in oregon jamie had asked

1:21:29 ↗ over the weekend or noted that those

1:21:31 ↗ numbers seemed a little bit high

1:21:33 ↗ so i've been looking at some other

1:21:35 ↗ studies specifically on multi-family

1:21:37 ↗ heat pump installs and it's likely that

1:21:40 ↗ we'll see numbers closer in the range to

1:21:42 ↗ probably 160 to 350 dollars per year

1:21:47 ↗ for a heat pump install in a in

1:21:49 ↗ multi-family buildings

1:21:51 ↗ per individual unit

1:21:54 ↗ and one of the other things i really did

1:21:55 ↗ want to highlight about heat pumps is

1:21:57 ↗ that they do provide this cooling

1:21:59 ↗ benefit

1:22:00 ↗ um so we're seeing this as a great

1:22:02 ↗ opportunity to really provide resilience

1:22:05 ↗ to communities as the summers in the

1:22:08 ↗ northwest become warmer

1:22:10 ↗ heat pumps are also a third more energy

1:22:12 ↗ efficient

1:22:14 ↗ so hence the savings but then also

1:22:17 ↗ that energy use reduction

1:22:21 ↗ the partner that we're working with in

1:22:23 ↗ their program in oregon they were

1:22:25 ↗ estimated that

1:22:28 ↗ for about every two installs that's

1:22:30 ↗ essentially

1:22:31 ↗ the same as taking a car off the road so

1:22:33 ↗ we estimate that potentially saving

1:22:35 ↗ about 45 metric tons of co2 per year

1:22:39 ↗ with this initial phase of the program

1:22:44 ↗ i had the opportunity to meet with our

1:22:46 ↗ equity board last week and talk to them

1:22:48 ↗ about this program most of our

1:22:50 ↗ conversation at that meeting focused on

1:22:53 ↗ opportunities to communicate out to the

1:22:56 ↗ community about this program we talked

1:22:59 ↗ about ways to work through other media

1:23:02 ↗ outlets than the city's

1:23:04 ↗ typical communication channels we talked

1:23:07 ↗ about translation of materials

1:23:09 ↗ and also an overall equity framework

1:23:11 ↗ that might be applied to future projects

1:23:16 ↗ so with you all tonight i really was

1:23:18 ↗ hoping to get some input on the approach

1:23:20 ↗ that we're taking prior to

1:23:23 ↗ coming before council

1:23:25 ↗ so for

1:23:26 ↗ multi-family housing staff from across

1:23:29 ↗ the five cities have been working with

1:23:31 ↗ imagine housing and we picked that

1:23:34 ↗ affordable housing provider because they

1:23:36 ↗ have housing complex in each of our five

1:23:38 ↗ cities it's the only affordable housing

1:23:40 ↗ provider that that is represented across

1:23:43 ↗ those five cities

1:23:45 ↗ in itself they have four housing

1:23:47 ↗ complexes and they

1:23:49 ↗ have residents that are 60 or below area

1:23:52 ↗ median income

1:23:55 ↗ we

1:23:55 ↗ are also talking with imagine housing as

1:23:58 ↗ well as the king county housing

1:24:00 ↗ authority on how we might do more of a

1:24:03 ↗ complete weatherization analysis and

1:24:05 ↗ upgrade for these housing complexes

1:24:08 ↗ prior to heat pump installation

1:24:11 ↗ as i've mentioned this is really

1:24:13 ↗ intended to be our first year of what we

1:24:15 ↗ hope will be a multi-year opportunity

1:24:18 ↗ at which time we could open up

1:24:21 ↗ funding and free installs to other

1:24:24 ↗ low-income housing complexes

1:24:27 ↗ how i say all that but then wanted to

1:24:30 ↗ note that imagine housing is not our

1:24:32 ↗ only affordable housing complex in in

1:24:34 ↗ issaquah

1:24:36 ↗ again we just initially started working

1:24:38 ↗ with them since they were across all

1:24:39 ↗ five cities

1:24:41 ↗ um so tonight and prior to bringing this

1:24:44 ↗ program to council i did want to hear

1:24:47 ↗ from you all on whether or not you have

1:24:49 ↗ thoughts about

1:24:51 ↗ if we should

1:24:53 ↗ instead of working with a single

1:24:54 ↗ affordable housing provider instead open

1:24:57 ↗ up more of a grant opportunity for

1:24:59 ↗ low-income housing to apply for free

1:25:01 ↗ heat pump installs during this first

1:25:04 ↗ initial year of the program

1:25:07 ↗ the other item i was hoping to get some

1:25:09 ↗ feedback on tonight is um

1:25:13 ↗ again we've been kind of focused on the

1:25:15 ↗ multi-family housing i'm just

1:25:18 ↗ thinking that that is probably where our

1:25:20 ↗ biggest impact would be in issaquah but

1:25:23 ↗ there's an opportunity to also

1:25:25 ↗ look at

1:25:26 ↗ detached or single family homes

1:25:28 ↗ potentially with a focus on

1:25:32 ↗ fixed income seniors first or

1:25:35 ↗ other residents within issaquah so also

1:25:38 ↗ just wanted to get some feedback on our

1:25:40 ↗ approach to

1:25:41 ↗ who we're working with in the installs

1:25:44 ↗ outside of the multi-family housing

1:25:47 ↗ so that was a very very quick overview

1:25:50 ↗ um and just a couple of questions that

1:25:52 ↗ looking for some feedback on so that we

1:25:55 ↗ can take your thoughts

1:25:56 ↗ in terms of our low income approach for

1:25:58 ↗ the heat pump campaign

1:26:01 ↗ to council

1:26:04 ↗ i will pause there jamie for any

1:26:06 ↗ comments questions

1:26:11 ↗ thank you stacy

1:26:16 ↗ does anyone have anything to share

1:26:22 ↗ don you have a question

1:26:24 ↗ yeah stacy

1:26:26 ↗ you mentioned your target is more of the

1:26:28 ↗ multi-family side of the shop um

1:26:31 ↗ tell us a little more about the

1:26:32 ↗ residential

1:26:34 ↗ heat pump campaign what would it look

1:26:36 ↗ like if you offered

1:26:37 ↗ you know grant opportunities or

1:26:38 ↗ something down that path

1:26:41 ↗ yeah so right now um

1:26:44 ↗ for

1:26:45 ↗ non-low-income

1:26:47 ↗ residents we are not planning to offer

1:26:49 ↗ any kind of grant we will be promoting

1:26:52 ↗ pse incentives we're in conversations

1:26:55 ↗ with a heat pump distributor who may

1:26:57 ↗ offer an additional

1:26:59 ↗ rebate on top of pse

1:27:02 ↗ but there will not be the city at this

1:27:04 ↗ time is not planning to offer any

1:27:06 ↗ additional incentives on top of those

1:27:09 ↗ i think the opportunity here for

1:27:12 ↗ feedback is on

1:27:14 ↗ is on that subsidized program and if in

1:27:17 ↗ addition to looking well

1:27:19 ↗ i shouldn't say in addition to i would

1:27:21 ↗ say um

1:27:22 ↗ staff and the administration think that

1:27:24 ↗ probably the biggest impact we can make

1:27:27 ↗ for low-income families or residents in

1:27:30 ↗ issaquah is focusing on multifamily that

1:27:32 ↗ is where a lot of our low income are

1:27:36 ↗ but there are

1:27:38 ↗ likely opportunities to also work

1:27:41 ↗ with individuals in in single detached

1:27:44 ↗ housing

1:27:45 ↗ such as the

1:27:46 ↗ fixed income seniors or

1:27:49 ↗ low-income residents that might be in

1:27:51 ↗ single-family housing and also offer

1:27:54 ↗ um

1:27:56 ↗ free free installs there so just trying

1:27:59 ↗ to get a sense um this first year we

1:28:01 ↗ don't have a lot of money um but trying

1:28:03 ↗ just to get a sense of where we might

1:28:05 ↗ have the biggest impact and and want to

1:28:07 ↗ focus those limited funds for this the

1:28:10 ↗ first year of this program

1:28:13 ↗ then another question a little kind of

1:28:14 ↗ sideways on you um future development is

1:28:18 ↗ issaquah looking at any requirements

1:28:20 ↗ that future development would look at

1:28:22 ↗ heat pumps as a requirement in

1:28:24 ↗ newark construction yeah so actually the

1:28:27 ↗ state

1:28:28 ↗ um

1:28:29 ↗ building code state energy code just

1:28:31 ↗ passed requirements for an animate

1:28:34 ↗ i know amtrak's a lot of this you might

1:28:36 ↗ be able to speak to it more but did pass

1:28:38 ↗ requirements for new construction

1:28:40 ↗ starting next summer there will be heat

1:28:42 ↗ pump requirements that does not cover

1:28:44 ↗ single-family homes

1:28:47 ↗ the city is not able to get ahead of any

1:28:51 ↗ of the single-family home

1:28:54 ↗ building codes

1:28:55 ↗ that's something we may talk about in

1:28:57 ↗ the future whether we want to have any

1:28:59 ↗ any heat pump

1:29:01 ↗ requirements there

1:29:02 ↗ if allowed to

1:29:04 ↗ under the state but

1:29:06 ↗ for

1:29:07 ↗ buildings new construction major

1:29:10 ↗ renovations there are requirements for

1:29:12 ↗ heat pumps that will start july 2023

1:29:16 ↗ i'm happy to share more about the

1:29:18 ↗ passage of that code

1:29:21 ↗ answer my question thank you

1:29:24 ↗ thank you dawn um and you have a

1:29:26 ↗ question

1:29:30 ↗ yeah thanks this is ann and newcome here

1:29:33 ↗ so i noticed um

1:29:36 ↗ that

1:29:38 ↗ to apply for the grant or um everybody

1:29:41 ↗ that is

1:29:42 ↗ going to be

1:29:43 ↗ installing their heat pump um we'll get

1:29:46 ↗ we'll need to have um a weatherization

1:29:49 ↗ anal

1:29:50 ↗ analyze analyzation

1:29:52 ↗ um

1:29:54 ↗ will they also have to do some um

1:29:57 ↗ some retrofitting and

1:29:59 ↗ do some weatherizing

1:30:01 ↗ to get

1:30:02 ↗ to in order to put the unit in

1:30:04 ↗ and will the unit be replacing um

1:30:08 ↗ their old heat system

1:30:10 ↗ are you asking specifically for the low

1:30:12 ↗ income

1:30:13 ↗ program yeah yeah yeah so um we actually

1:30:17 ↗ uh right now there is not a requirement

1:30:20 ↗ for

1:30:22 ↗ the weatherization we just came to the

1:30:25 ↗ realization and conversations with

1:30:27 ↗ imagine housing

1:30:28 ↗ they haven't had the capacity to take

1:30:31 ↗ advantage of the

1:30:33 ↗ king county housing authority

1:30:35 ↗ weatherization program

1:30:37 ↗ so we are just starting to have

1:30:38 ↗ conversations of if that is a first step

1:30:42 ↗ they might want to take and have all of

1:30:44 ↗ that work fully paid for prior to the

1:30:46 ↗ heat pump install

1:30:48 ↗ um it may be possible that they're not

1:30:51 ↗ deemed eligible or they just aren't able

1:30:53 ↗ to

1:30:54 ↗ go through that process where we would

1:30:56 ↗ still look at providing that the heat

1:30:58 ↗ pump installs so right now there is no

1:31:00 ↗ there is not an intent to have any kind

1:31:02 ↗ of requirement for weatherization

1:31:06 ↗ i'd say on the individual household

1:31:08 ↗ that's a conversation that happens

1:31:10 ↗ between the installer and the

1:31:12 ↗ homeowner on

1:31:14 ↗ what opportunities there might be to

1:31:17 ↗ improve the weatherization of the home

1:31:19 ↗ so that the heat pump can run more

1:31:20 ↗ efficiently

1:31:23 ↗ to answer your question yes thank you

1:31:25 ↗ appreciate it um looks like a really

1:31:27 ↗ great program well thought out a lot of

1:31:30 ↗ great connections

1:31:34 ↗ thank you and tom you have a comment

1:31:40 ↗ oh yeah tommy anderson speaking um

1:31:43 ↗ i guess just reflecting on on this is a

1:31:46 ↗ grant program

1:31:48 ↗ where you're providing a

1:31:50 ↗ thing of value to

1:31:52 ↗ some someone some entity that owns some

1:31:56 ↗ properties most these multi-family

1:31:59 ↗ situations are are rentals and so it's

1:32:01 ↗ the owner of the property who's really

1:32:03 ↗ receiving a long-term benefit and all

1:32:05 ↗ that i would be

1:32:07 ↗ uh more comfortable with that being done

1:32:09 ↗ to a non-profit organization like

1:32:12 ↗ imagine housing

1:32:14 ↗ say than

1:32:15 ↗ than some other

1:32:17 ↗ for-profit

1:32:19 ↗ ownership entity

1:32:21 ↗ so i guess i'm favorably disposed

1:32:24 ↗ towards

1:32:24 ↗ that sort of organization

1:32:27 ↗ versus some other things

1:32:29 ↗ that one might

1:32:31 ↗ choose to do so for example maybe

1:32:33 ↗ there's low income

1:32:35 ↗ people in

1:32:37 ↗ you know some other housing complex that

1:32:39 ↗ is not owned by a non-profit

1:32:42 ↗ uh

1:32:43 ↗ well

1:32:44 ↗ you know that now they're they're worthy

1:32:46 ↗ of that benefit too but the uh that

1:32:50 ↗ capital expense is really becoming a

1:32:52 ↗ windfall to the owner of the property

1:32:56 ↗ separate and distinct from the benefit

1:32:58 ↗ to the person living in the unit

1:33:01 ↗ so it's kind of a

1:33:02 ↗ kind of a tricky thing to

1:33:04 ↗ balance that out but this is this is a

1:33:06 ↗ small program you're you're launching

1:33:09 ↗ here with a very limited some

1:33:12 ↗ amount of money so let's uh let's focus

1:33:14 ↗ it in

1:33:15 ↗ in a way that um

1:33:18 ↗ uh we get the most leverage and and i

1:33:20 ↗ think uh an outfit like imagined housing

1:33:23 ↗ is is a

1:33:25 ↗ good choice

1:33:26 ↗ that's my feeling on that anyway thank

1:33:28 ↗ you

1:33:31 ↗ thanks tom um janet you have a question

1:33:41 ↗ um

1:33:43 ↗ i was just wondering whether the city

1:33:45 ↗ has uh

1:33:46 ↗ the baseline information like on the

1:33:50 ↗ number of electric cars

1:33:52 ↗ that are presently owned by

1:33:55 ↗ uh instant uh

1:33:57 ↗ uh esquite residents and uh the number

1:34:00 ↗ of heat pumps

1:34:04 ↗ i have a heat pump uh myself and uh

1:34:07 ↗ i think it's one of the greatest things

1:34:09 ↗ i had was to install it because my

1:34:13 ↗ previous

1:34:14 ↗ um

1:34:16 ↗ heating option was was uh was not

1:34:20 ↗ working

1:34:24 ↗ great thanks janet i that is a great

1:34:27 ↗ question i have not seen that

1:34:28 ↗ information um i'll see if that's

1:34:30 ↗ something we can track down and follow

1:34:32 ↗ up with you either for the heat pump or

1:34:34 ↗ ebs but that might be something too we

1:34:37 ↗ could consider in a survey in the future

1:34:39 ↗ if we don't have that information

1:34:45 ↗ thank you janet um i had a couple

1:34:47 ↗ questions and a comment um first

1:34:49 ↗ question

1:34:51 ↗ um i think i know the answer this but

1:34:53 ↗ i'm assuming that these units and any of

1:34:55 ↗ these affordable housing units there's a

1:34:57 ↗ is it a permanent commitment to keep

1:34:59 ↗ them affordable housing what what can

1:35:02 ↗ you explain that a little bit just how

1:35:03 ↗ that

1:35:05 ↗ that works

1:35:06 ↗ yeah they um i know

1:35:08 ↗ imagine housing is that is the service

1:35:11 ↗ they provide i'd yeah i'd have to look

1:35:14 ↗ at what that formal commitment long-term

1:35:16 ↗ commitment is but that's my

1:35:17 ↗ understanding for imagine housing as

1:35:19 ↗ well as um there are a few other um

1:35:22 ↗ housing units like that in issaquah so

1:35:26 ↗ um

1:35:26 ↗ yeah because that would obviously be

1:35:27 ↗ important because it's a long-term

1:35:29 ↗ benefit that we're looking for out of

1:35:30 ↗ this to tom's point a capital

1:35:33 ↗ windfall effectively to this

1:35:34 ↗ organization so ensuring that it's

1:35:37 ↗ um something that is not is going to go

1:35:40 ↗ to the intended purpose long term i

1:35:42 ↗ think is something worth doing

1:35:44 ↗ um

1:35:46 ↗ one other question i had is is whether

1:35:47 ↗ there's any updates on psc or just in

1:35:50 ↗ general utilities being able to provide

1:35:53 ↗ um

1:35:54 ↗ incentives for fuel type changes i know

1:35:57 ↗ this is something that we've talked

1:35:58 ↗ about before and this seems very

1:35:59 ↗ relevant for the heat pump campaign this

1:36:01 ↗ is probably more general not as specific

1:36:03 ↗ to your question but curious if there's

1:36:04 ↗ any update on that

1:36:06 ↗ um yes so pse does provide a small

1:36:10 ↗ incentive for heat pumps there are more

1:36:12 ↗ incentives available for the oil

1:36:15 ↗ conversion that's the program seattle

1:36:17 ↗ has been running where they're

1:36:20 ↗ essentially able to

1:36:21 ↗ cover full costs for oil conversion

1:36:25 ↗ but as of now there aren't additional

1:36:27 ↗ incentives that's something we'll

1:36:28 ↗ continue to talk to pse about

1:36:31 ↗ as well as the distributor to see if we

1:36:34 ↗ can get some additional funding on the

1:36:35 ↗ table

1:36:36 ↗ or incentives on the table

1:36:41 ↗ great thank you and my comment i i would

1:36:43 ↗ echo a bit of what tom said is i do

1:36:45 ↗ think the selection of the partner on

1:36:47 ↗ this is really important and i

1:36:49 ↗ personally don't know imagine housing

1:36:51 ↗ well enough to to

1:36:53 ↗ judge whether that is the right partner

1:36:54 ↗ but given that they

1:36:56 ↗ get a very large benefit from this i

1:36:59 ↗ would just want to make sure that that

1:37:01 ↗ is a really

1:37:02 ↗ i hope we don't choose that just because

1:37:04 ↗ other cities are using them i i think we

1:37:06 ↗ would want to make sure that the we have

1:37:08 ↗ the right partner for issaquah

1:37:10 ↗ um the other thing that um

1:37:14 ↗ comes to mind as well as i do i think

1:37:16 ↗ the what you spoke to around the climate

1:37:20 ↗ adaptability or the ability for people

1:37:22 ↗ to have cooling is something that i

1:37:24 ↗ hadn't really thought about when i

1:37:25 ↗ initially but but having low income

1:37:27 ↗ residents that have access to that in

1:37:29 ↗ addition to the savings i think is

1:37:31 ↗ something that really resonated for me

1:37:32 ↗ when we were going back and forth on

1:37:34 ↗ this so

1:37:35 ↗ um yeah i think i would just echo that i

1:37:38 ↗ think the

1:37:40 ↗ it seems like a good program i think the

1:37:43 ↗ to a certain extent though the devil

1:37:44 ↗ will be the detail on how we choose to

1:37:46 ↗ prioritize projects i think that is the

1:37:48 ↗ area that i would love to see

1:37:50 ↗ a little more

1:37:51 ↗ definition around how we're going to be

1:37:53 ↗ choosing those partners and what

1:37:55 ↗ specifically about inspire other than

1:37:57 ↗ the fact that they're

1:37:59 ↗ across all these cities um to me that

1:38:02 ↗ isn't sufficient so i would i would love

1:38:04 ↗ to see a more comprehensive

1:38:06 ↗ um look at why we feel they're the right

1:38:08 ↗ partner great

1:38:10 ↗ thank you yeah great

1:38:19 ↗ any other comments or questions on this

1:38:29 ↗ stacy did you do you have more to

1:38:31 ↗ present on this topic or should i

1:38:33 ↗ try to

1:38:34 ↗ summarize what what we've heard that

1:38:36 ↗ that is it on this topic i just put up

1:38:38 ↗ the timing um so yeah very much

1:38:41 ↗ appreciate that feedback

1:38:43 ↗ and i'll take those comments and work

1:38:44 ↗ that into our discussion and proposal um

1:38:48 ↗ i will be meeting with the council

1:38:50 ↗ committee

1:38:51 ↗ at the end of this month prior to going

1:38:53 ↗ to full council so the feedback's really

1:38:55 ↗ valuable to help make a stronger case

1:39:02 ↗ great and did you

1:39:03 ↗ do you would you like a summary i mean

1:39:05 ↗ or is that would that be helpful

1:39:07 ↗ um yeah

1:39:09 ↗ sure

1:39:13 ↗ yeah

1:39:14 ↗ i i definitely captured all the comments

1:39:16 ↗ if you want to take a shot at a higher

1:39:20 ↗ level um summary that's that's great as

1:39:22 ↗ well

1:39:23 ↗ yeah i mean it sounded like there was

1:39:25 ↗ general support for the program i think

1:39:26 ↗ there was some interest in

1:39:28 ↗ learning a bit more about the

1:39:31 ↗ the how the project or how the partners

1:39:34 ↗ are selected and and how we go about

1:39:36 ↗ ensuring that

1:39:38 ↗ um

1:39:39 ↗ yeah that the the right sort of um that

1:39:42 ↗ this investment is is basically going to

1:39:44 ↗ the right um communities in the right

1:39:46 ↗ organizations um

1:39:48 ↗ i think

1:39:50 ↗ yeah those are the main takeaways that i

1:39:53 ↗ i could recall

1:39:56 ↗ great thank you

1:39:58 ↗ all right and then i think with that

1:40:00 ↗ then we can jump to your next agenda

1:40:02 ↗ item

1:40:04 ↗ all right

1:40:06 ↗ thank you um i will try and power

1:40:08 ↗ through this so we can get out of here

1:40:10 ↗ on time but also don't want to rush the

1:40:13 ↗ conversation too much um so this is the

1:40:15 ↗ second program we'll be taking

1:40:17 ↗ to council to request funding for um

1:40:21 ↗ this is our clean buildings initiative

1:40:25 ↗ so as i spoke to before

1:40:27 ↗ buildings house energy use is our

1:40:30 ↗ largest greenhouse gas emission

1:40:33 ↗ contributor in issaquah

1:40:35 ↗ and from my perspective

1:40:37 ↗ working with existing buildings to

1:40:39 ↗ reduce energy use is probably going to

1:40:41 ↗ be one of our more challenging areas to

1:40:43 ↗ work with

1:40:44 ↗ and this program that we're bringing to

1:40:46 ↗ you tonight

1:40:47 ↗ we see is a really great opportunity to

1:40:49 ↗ make some headway there

1:40:51 ↗ and reducing emissions from our existing

1:40:53 ↗ buildings

1:40:55 ↗ so again i've spoken very high level

1:40:58 ↗ about this program to you with a few

1:41:00 ↗ updates over the last few months but are

1:41:03 ↗ going i'm going to dig in a little bit

1:41:04 ↗ deeper tonight and then wanted to get

1:41:07 ↗ feedback specifically on whether this

1:41:09 ↗ board thinks we should have any

1:41:11 ↗ above and beyond requirements for

1:41:13 ↗ participation in this program

1:41:17 ↗ um so washington state passed the clean

1:41:20 ↗ building performance standard in

1:41:22 ↗ 2019

1:41:23 ↗ this program was really passed in order

1:41:26 ↗ to take advantage of an opportunity to

1:41:28 ↗ work on energy efficiency for one of the

1:41:30 ↗ state's largest greenhouse gas

1:41:32 ↗ contributors being existing buildings

1:41:36 ↗ this law includes energy efficiency

1:41:39 ↗ requirements for what were called

1:41:40 ↗ covered commercial buildings

1:41:43 ↗ only for buildings that were greater

1:41:44 ↗ than 50 000 square feet

1:41:47 ↗ at the time of passage it did not

1:41:48 ↗ require any requirements for

1:41:50 ↗ multi-family buildings hotels

1:41:52 ↗ areas of residence

1:41:54 ↗ the timeline for compliance varied by

1:41:57 ↗ the building size that's shown in the

1:41:59 ↗ graphic

1:42:01 ↗ on the screen

1:42:03 ↗ and

1:42:04 ↗ that's actually the reporting date so

1:42:06 ↗ buildings are required to be in

1:42:08 ↗ compliance a year in advance and be

1:42:10 ↗ reporting on that requirement on their

1:42:12 ↗ their compliance

1:42:14 ↗ there are penalties imposed um if a

1:42:17 ↗ building does not report or does not

1:42:19 ↗ meet the compliance requirements

1:42:22 ↗ this last legislative session an

1:42:24 ↗ amendment was passed to the the law

1:42:27 ↗ that does now incorporate buildings that

1:42:29 ↗ are 20 000 square feet or greater as

1:42:32 ↗ well as multi-family is now included

1:42:35 ↗ rule making is currently underway for

1:42:37 ↗ the energy efficiency requirements for

1:42:39 ↗ those buildings

1:42:41 ↗ and that's expected to be completed in

1:42:43 ↗ december 2023

1:42:46 ↗ and i will note too even if a building

1:42:48 ↗ is in compliance they've already met the

1:42:50 ↗ energy efficiency

1:42:51 ↗ standards set by this law they still

1:42:54 ↗ need to report regularly to the state

1:42:59 ↗ so along with the law

1:43:02 ↗ the state also authorized 75 million

1:43:04 ↗ dollars in incentives for what they

1:43:07 ↗ called early adopters of the clean

1:43:09 ↗ building standard

1:43:11 ↗ the funds are available on a first come

1:43:13 ↗ first serve basis

1:43:15 ↗ they're available for those buildings

1:43:17 ↗ that are required to come into

1:43:18 ↗ compliance with the clean building

1:43:20 ↗ standard but they're also available more

1:43:22 ↗ widely for example multi-family is

1:43:24 ↗ allowed to apply for these incentives

1:43:27 ↗ these are statewide funds

1:43:29 ↗ and they can be matched with loan

1:43:31 ↗ programs with other incentive

1:43:33 ↗ opportunities such as those that pse is

1:43:36 ↗ offering for businesses

1:43:40 ↗ so the request i am planning to bring

1:43:42 ↗ forward to council is to support

1:43:44 ↗ implementation of a clean buildings

1:43:46 ↗ initiative

1:43:48 ↗ this would be a hundred thousand dollar

1:43:49 ↗ proposal for an 18-month pilot program

1:43:53 ↗ with the possibility to expand that in

1:43:55 ↗ the future

1:43:57 ↗ this program would be

1:43:59 ↗ both to help us meet

1:44:01 ↗ our greenhouse gas emission targets for

1:44:03 ↗ existing buildings but also to take

1:44:05 ↗ advantage of that incentive program that

1:44:07 ↗ is available now

1:44:10 ↗ and this program is really modeled off

1:44:12 ↗ of one that bellevue

1:44:14 ↗ started earlier this year working with

1:44:16 ↗ mcdonald miller

1:44:18 ↗ the program would have the city partner

1:44:20 ↗ with a service provider where we would

1:44:22 ↗ essentially work with building owners

1:44:24 ↗ and building managers to walk them

1:44:26 ↗ through the requirements of the clean

1:44:27 ↗ building standard we'd help also provide

1:44:30 ↗ them access to the loans to the

1:44:32 ↗ incentive program as well as complete

1:44:35 ↗ any mandatory reporting requirements

1:44:39 ↗ so following broad outreach

1:44:42 ↗ as well as

1:44:43 ↗ connecting with each of the buildings

1:44:45 ↗ that are required to be in compliance

1:44:47 ↗ the city and the service provider would

1:44:49 ↗ walk through the following steps shown

1:44:51 ↗ here

1:44:52 ↗ the benchmarking would be done with the

1:44:55 ↗ building that is to show where their

1:44:56 ↗ current energy use is

1:44:59 ↗ we would then compare their current

1:45:01 ↗ energy use as well as the target that

1:45:03 ↗ they need to meet to be in compliance

1:45:06 ↗ the service provider would do a scoping

1:45:08 ↗ assessment to show the different

1:45:10 ↗ pathways that the building can take to

1:45:12 ↗ be in compliance

1:45:14 ↗ and then working with the building

1:45:16 ↗ owner uh those improvements would be

1:45:19 ↗ made um and i'll just note uh this came

1:45:21 ↗ up in some conversations um

1:45:24 ↗ with uh

1:45:27 ↗ representatives from our

1:45:28 ↗ economic

1:45:30 ↗ representatives from the community that

1:45:32 ↗ any service provider could be chosen to

1:45:35 ↗ do the actual work on the building a

1:45:38 ↗ building owner would not need to work

1:45:40 ↗ with the

1:45:40 ↗ partner that the city has chosen

1:45:43 ↗ for this service

1:45:46 ↗ following the improvements

1:45:47 ↗ the service provider would then support

1:45:51 ↗ applying for the incentive dollars they

1:45:54 ↗ would have already supported applying

1:45:55 ↗ for loans if that needed to happen and

1:45:58 ↗ then also submitting all of the

1:45:59 ↗ compliance reporting

1:46:02 ↗ so based on information we received from

1:46:05 ↗ the department of commerce as well as

1:46:07 ↗ some further staff scrubbing we are

1:46:09 ↗ estimating we have about 50 to 80

1:46:12 ↗ buildings in issaquah that are going to

1:46:13 ↗ meet the threshold for reporting to the

1:46:15 ↗ state we think we also have an

1:46:17 ↗ additional 70 80 buildings that

1:46:21 ↗ might actually be

1:46:22 ↗ eligible for energy efficiency

1:46:24 ↗ incentives and loans

1:46:26 ↗ we do need to do further analysis of

1:46:28 ↗ that data

1:46:31 ↗ but i think that provides a pretty large

1:46:34 ↗ set of buildings where we have an

1:46:36 ↗ opportunity to work with them and and

1:46:37 ↗ reduce their energy use we have had

1:46:40 ↗ initial meetings with partners including

1:46:44 ↗ a group called vision partners the

1:46:46 ↗ economic vitality commission and there

1:46:49 ↗ seems to be pretty broad

1:46:51 ↗ any pretty

1:46:52 ↗ strong interest of the city uh working

1:46:55 ↗ with the service provider to really walk

1:46:57 ↗ um issaquah's buildings uh through this

1:47:00 ↗ process and also provide easy access to

1:47:03 ↗ incentives

1:47:05 ↗ stacey just while you're on this could

1:47:07 ↗ you i'm just trying to place what the

1:47:09 ↗ service provider

1:47:11 ↗ means here as well as just really make

1:47:13 ↗ sure i understand what

1:47:16 ↗ i think based on this graph what it's

1:47:17 ↗ telling me or the culture

1:47:19 ↗ what city funding supports as part of

1:47:21 ↗ this process yeah so the service would

1:47:23 ↗ writer would be a group um like for an

1:47:26 ↗ example city of bellevue has partnered

1:47:27 ↗ with mcdonald miller so mcdonald miller

1:47:30 ↗ would be that service provider they

1:47:32 ↗ would be going out and doing these steps

1:47:34 ↗ and they're actually paying for that

1:47:36 ↗ work to be done

1:47:38 ↗ the city funding that we'd be requesting

1:47:40 ↗ we'd be contributing to

1:47:42 ↗ some of the outreach and marketing and

1:47:44 ↗ then we would be paying

1:47:47 ↗ mcdonald miller whoever our selective

1:47:49 ↗ provider was to actually go out and do

1:47:51 ↗ the the scoping assessment

1:47:54 ↗ and then again that service provider is

1:47:56 ↗ covering the cost of submitting the

1:47:58 ↗ paperwork

1:47:59 ↗ so the opportunity to them is they're

1:48:01 ↗ hoping obviously that the building owner

1:48:03 ↗ selects them to do the improvements

1:48:05 ↗ that's where they'd make the money

1:48:07 ↗ but in the meantime they're developing

1:48:09 ↗ strong

1:48:10 ↗ partnerships and clientele and working

1:48:12 ↗ across these uh the buildings in in the

1:48:14 ↗ city

1:48:16 ↗ does that

1:48:21 ↗ all right i'm just gonna um i'll walk

1:48:23 ↗ through the benefits and then we'll move

1:48:25 ↗ into the discussion

1:48:27 ↗ um so why did we start looking at the

1:48:30 ↗ program bell view was running and

1:48:32 ↗ have interest in bringing it to issaquah

1:48:35 ↗ as i mentioned for us we see this as a

1:48:37 ↗ great opportunity to help meet our

1:48:39 ↗ climate action targets we'll be able to

1:48:41 ↗ work with buildings on a faster track

1:48:44 ↗ than what the law would require

1:48:46 ↗ and as i mentioned before i think that

1:48:49 ↗ work with existing buildings can be one

1:48:50 ↗ of the harder areas to tackle

1:48:53 ↗ if we start this program now we also

1:48:55 ↗ allow our buildings to take advantage of

1:48:57 ↗ the available incentive dollars before

1:49:00 ↗ they run out

1:49:02 ↗ we're also seeing from bellevue that

1:49:05 ↗ buildings that are going through this

1:49:06 ↗ process are

1:49:08 ↗ with a hand in hand with a service

1:49:10 ↗ provider they're tending to exceed the

1:49:13 ↗ efficiency standards by an average of

1:49:14 ↗ about 15 percent

1:49:17 ↗ and there's also an opportunity for the

1:49:19 ↗ city's

1:49:21 ↗ partner service provider to

1:49:23 ↗ work with buildings on

1:49:26 ↗ decarburization or on electrification

1:49:28 ↗ pathway if that's of interest to the the

1:49:30 ↗ building owner so ability to go above

1:49:33 ↗ and beyond those state standards

1:49:36 ↗ um and also by running this program

1:49:40 ↗ we would be able to reach out to

1:49:41 ↗ buildings that

1:49:43 ↗ aren't yet required or may never be

1:49:45 ↗ required to meet these standards so we

1:49:47 ↗ can go beyond those that are required

1:49:50 ↗ under state law to come into compliance

1:49:53 ↗ as i mentioned there was an amendment

1:49:55 ↗ passed this last legislative session for

1:49:57 ↗ the 20 000 square foot or greater

1:49:59 ↗ buildings and multifamily i think we're

1:50:02 ↗ probably going to see a lot of interest

1:50:04 ↗ from those building owners in the next

1:50:06 ↗ couple years as the rulemaking is

1:50:08 ↗ complete and those standards are set so

1:50:10 ↗ starting this program now allows us to

1:50:13 ↗ get a bit ahead of that and then be able

1:50:15 ↗ to expand the service in the future

1:50:18 ↗ and then i think finally there's a

1:50:20 ↗ there's an opportunity here to really

1:50:21 ↗ partner with our businesses and billing

1:50:23 ↗ owners

1:50:25 ↗ we set very bold actions in our climate

1:50:28 ↗ plan

1:50:29 ↗ and we can show them that the city

1:50:31 ↗ really wants to be a partner in helping

1:50:34 ↗ them help us to achieve those targets

1:50:36 ↗ and for the benefit of the whole

1:50:38 ↗ community

1:50:42 ↗ so the feedback i'm looking for tonight

1:50:45 ↗ is

1:50:46 ↗ there has been

1:50:48 ↗ some interest expressed

1:50:50 ↗ that maybe the city should

1:50:53 ↗ require some kind of above and beyond um

1:50:56 ↗ requirements for participation in this

1:50:59 ↗ program and for the city to be able to

1:51:01 ↗ offer the service

1:51:03 ↗ and i had a couple of ideas about what

1:51:05 ↗ those above and beyond requirements

1:51:07 ↗ could be in the memo i can go through

1:51:10 ↗ those in a minute

1:51:12 ↗ but i i wanted to note a few things here

1:51:14 ↗ not to

1:51:16 ↗ get ahead of the discussion but just a

1:51:18 ↗ few things i did want to point out as we

1:51:21 ↗ go into that discussion

1:51:23 ↗ as i mentioned mcdonald miller with the

1:51:25 ↗ bellevue program

1:51:27 ↗ is finding that

1:51:29 ↗ the buildings they're working with tend

1:51:31 ↗ to on average exceed the requirements by

1:51:34 ↗ at least 15 percent some as high as 30

1:51:36 ↗ percent

1:51:37 ↗ and they've also been working on

1:51:40 ↗ other opportunities for those buildings

1:51:42 ↗ to um

1:51:43 ↗ to reduce fossil fuel use

1:51:46 ↗ they've also shared that in some cases

1:51:49 ↗ it's cheaper for buildings not to come

1:51:51 ↗ into compliance

1:51:53 ↗ um so that's just something that we and

1:51:55 ↗ instead to pay the penalty so that's

1:51:57 ↗ just something we should consider if we

1:52:00 ↗ do want to have additional requirements

1:52:01 ↗ for participation in this program we

1:52:04 ↗ want to make sure we're not creating

1:52:05 ↗ more barriers that

1:52:07 ↗ would make it even harder to partner

1:52:09 ↗ with these buildings

1:52:12 ↗ and then lastly i really do see one of

1:52:14 ↗ the opportunities of this program is to

1:52:16 ↗ show that the city

1:52:18 ↗ wants to partner with buildings to

1:52:20 ↗ support them and meeting our greenhouse

1:52:21 ↗ gas emission targets

1:52:23 ↗ so again just thinking about if we if we

1:52:25 ↗ do want to include any above and beyond

1:52:28 ↗ in this program that we're taking that

1:52:30 ↗ into consideration um as well and and um

1:52:34 ↗ not creating more hurdles for our

1:52:36 ↗ business community to to comply

1:52:39 ↗ so um with that i did want to hear from

1:52:42 ↗ the board though if if you do think that

1:52:45 ↗ if the city is offering the service

1:52:47 ↗ should we be considering any kind of

1:52:49 ↗ additional requirements above the state

1:52:51 ↗ compliance

1:52:53 ↗ for participation

1:52:55 ↗ and if so what might those look like or

1:52:58 ↗ any other feedback that you all have on

1:53:00 ↗ this proposal

1:53:02 ↗ prior to

1:53:03 ↗ coming to council

1:53:09 ↗ thanks stacy

1:53:10 ↗ while we wait for others i just have a

1:53:12 ↗ clarifying question on

1:53:14 ↗ it seems like outreach is one aspect of

1:53:17 ↗ what we're going to be doing which is

1:53:18 ↗ going to be not specifically necessarily

1:53:20 ↗ focused on

1:53:22 ↗ like that's just going to be general

1:53:23 ↗ outreach and but i am it seems like the

1:53:25 ↗ thing that would be more specific to a

1:53:27 ↗ building is that if the city was to fund

1:53:29 ↗ the scoping assessment

1:53:32 ↗ is that where you think the requirements

1:53:34 ↗ would come in is for like performing

1:53:36 ↗ that aspect of it or is it for the

1:53:38 ↗ outreach portion as well

1:53:41 ↗ um

1:53:42 ↗ [Music]

1:53:43 ↗ the scoping assessment is

1:53:48 ↗ so the outreach and marketing that would

1:53:50 ↗ be to make sure

1:53:51 ↗ that

1:53:52 ↗ those that are required to come into

1:53:54 ↗ compliance with the law or

1:53:56 ↗ might be eligible for the incentive

1:53:58 ↗ there would be direct

1:54:00 ↗ messaging going to them we'd also do

1:54:02 ↗ some broader messaging to talk to them

1:54:04 ↗ about the requirements and the service

1:54:07 ↗ that could be provided through this

1:54:09 ↗ partnership

1:54:10 ↗ the scoping assessment then is where

1:54:12 ↗ um

1:54:14 ↗ the the service providers working

1:54:16 ↗ one-on-one with the building owner to

1:54:19 ↗ identify the specific projects that need

1:54:21 ↗ to take place for them to get into

1:54:23 ↗ compliance

1:54:24 ↗ does that

1:54:26 ↗ clarify

1:54:27 ↗ or

1:54:28 ↗ yeah yeah that

1:54:34 ↗ helps and you have a comment

1:54:40 ↗ to me it seems like maybe the above and

1:54:42 ↗ beyond is

1:54:44 ↗ that they are doing it um ahead of the

1:54:47 ↗ time that they are required to do it

1:54:51 ↗ just

1:54:52 ↗ just a thought

1:54:56 ↗ and

1:54:57 ↗ i think it's a really super cool program

1:55:00 ↗ and it's going to help us out a lot on

1:55:02 ↗ a lot of different levels

1:55:05 ↗ for one thing it gets the building

1:55:07 ↗ owners involved and really engaged in

1:55:09 ↗ this and so that's more people that are

1:55:11 ↗ engaged in

1:55:13 ↗ collaborating

1:55:15 ↗ on the climate action plan and um it

1:55:17 ↗ seems like a great way for

1:55:19 ↗ issaquah to reduce

1:55:21 ↗ a bunch of emissions

1:55:27 ↗ thanks sam rishi you have a comment

1:55:29 ↗ yeah and first had a quick clarifying

1:55:31 ↗ question so when it says like additional

1:55:33 ↗ requirements for participants does that

1:55:35 ↗ mean uh potential building owners and

1:55:38 ↗ what

1:55:39 ↗ kind

1:55:40 ↗ yeah thanks yeah that that was the

1:55:43 ↗ thought is if um

1:55:46 ↗ so buildings

1:55:47 ↗ must comply with this law uh on a

1:55:50 ↗ certain time period defined by the law

1:55:52 ↗ if the city is going to be offering a

1:55:54 ↗ free service to the building and even

1:55:57 ↗ paying for the enter the assessments

1:55:59 ↗ energy assessments

1:56:01 ↗ um should we be

1:56:03 ↗ asking the buildings to do a little bit

1:56:05 ↗ more than what they might be required

1:56:07 ↗ under the

1:56:08 ↗ law that's the question

1:56:10 ↗ um some of the

1:56:14 ↗ ideas that came up in conversations with

1:56:18 ↗ partners was

1:56:20 ↗ we could ask them to exceed the state

1:56:23 ↗ energy efficiency requirements by

1:56:25 ↗ a certain percent

1:56:27 ↗ we could have some requirements that

1:56:28 ↗ they need to participate in um certain

1:56:31 ↗ kinds of trainings or workshops that

1:56:33 ↗ might be on kind of the lighter end of

1:56:35 ↗ the requirement

1:56:36 ↗ um we could ask that they need to go

1:56:40 ↗ above and beyond those energy efficiency

1:56:42 ↗ requirements and actually to map out or

1:56:45 ↗ develop a pathway for

1:56:48 ↗ decarbonization so i think there's some

1:56:50 ↗ other requirements that could

1:56:53 ↗ come to play if we want to ask them to

1:56:55 ↗ go above and beyond by taking advantage

1:56:57 ↗ of this city service

1:56:59 ↗ and would those additional requirements

1:57:01 ↗ be

1:57:02 ↗ like supported or funded by the city

1:57:04 ↗ under the program itself

1:57:07 ↗ yeah i think it would depend um on what

1:57:10 ↗ that was so if yeah that's a great

1:57:12 ↗ question if it was a training or

1:57:13 ↗ workshop

1:57:14 ↗ probably the city would put funding

1:57:16 ↗ towards

1:57:18 ↗ whoever our selected service provider

1:57:20 ↗ was to run that training or workshop so

1:57:22 ↗ some of them may have an additional cost

1:57:24 ↗ to the city um yeah that's a great

1:57:26 ↗ question

1:57:27 ↗ okay thanks and then i had a general

1:57:29 ↗ comment uh just about um

1:57:31 ↗ the idea here is i i think it'd probably

1:57:34 ↗ be very beneficial if there was a

1:57:36 ↗ section directed specifically towards

1:57:38 ↗ schools

1:57:40 ↗ because

1:57:41 ↗ the school buildings themselves um

1:57:43 ↗ generally throughout the summer um

1:57:45 ↗ still continue to utilize energy but

1:57:48 ↗ do not necessarily have

1:57:51 ↗ perhaps solar power or

1:57:54 ↗ other means of maintaining

1:57:56 ↗ a clean energy footprint for that

1:57:58 ↗ building so i think it would be

1:57:59 ↗ interesting to see

1:58:01 ↗ an ideal perhaps to have an additional

1:58:03 ↗ incentive for schools or maybe an

1:58:06 ↗ additional

1:58:07 ↗ outreach towards schools

1:58:10 ↗ yeah great yeah and schools as well as

1:58:12 ↗ municipal buildings are required

1:58:15 ↗ to come into compliance with this law

1:58:17 ↗ but thinking about how could we have a

1:58:19 ↗ maybe a little bit different targeted

1:58:21 ↗ program or maybe uh yeah like you were

1:58:24 ↗ saying like there maybe there's a little

1:58:25 ↗ bit more focus on solar or clean energy

1:58:28 ↗ for schools and thinking a little bit

1:58:29 ↗ more how to make that program unique

1:58:31 ↗ that's a great great suggestion

1:58:36 ↗ thank you rishi um

1:58:38 ↗ i had some comments on this one um

1:58:40 ↗ one of the things i i just would be it's

1:58:43 ↗ sort of a question but um kind of not is

1:58:47 ↗ i would guess that any of these changes

1:58:48 ↗ that business owners are having to make

1:58:50 ↗ are on the order of six figures like

1:58:52 ↗ very large numbers that we're talking

1:58:53 ↗ about so i do think

1:58:55 ↗ while

1:58:56 ↗ i i would be the first one to say that i

1:58:58 ↗ would love to see some above and beyond

1:58:59 ↗ i do think that the relative benefit

1:59:01 ↗ they're receiving from participating in

1:59:03 ↗ this

1:59:04 ↗ relative to their potential costs of

1:59:05 ↗ going above and beyond i just think we

1:59:07 ↗ need to factor that in and be realistic

1:59:09 ↗ with

1:59:10 ↗ what that cost benefit is going to be

1:59:12 ↗ for

1:59:13 ↗ for those building owners

1:59:15 ↗ the other piece that i think is actually

1:59:17 ↗ actually really important for

1:59:19 ↗ requirements is the service providers

1:59:21 ↗ because i think in some ways that you

1:59:22 ↗ could look at that as being them the

1:59:24 ↗ ones the ones that actually are

1:59:25 ↗ receiving the benefit because typically

1:59:27 ↗ they

1:59:28 ↗ like would have to charge customers for

1:59:30 ↗ that and in this case they're not so

1:59:32 ↗ it's

1:59:33 ↗ i i would be a little bit concerned if

1:59:35 ↗ it was a blank slate any service

1:59:36 ↗ provider that doesn't have

1:59:39 ↗ isn't aligned with what the goals of

1:59:40 ↗ this

1:59:41 ↗ program are and so i do think that that

1:59:44 ↗ is an area that we might

1:59:46 ↗ maybe need to have a little more focus i

1:59:47 ↗ don't know if it needs to be a single

1:59:49 ↗ provider like bellevue but

1:59:51 ↗ it's it's also lead generation for them

1:59:53 ↗ like there's a ton of value

1:59:55 ↗ in in this program to them i would think

1:59:58 ↗ and so i think we need to think about

1:59:59 ↗ how that could be leveraged to

2:00:01 ↗ potentially even get better deals for

2:00:03 ↗ disappoint businesses

2:00:05 ↗ um

2:00:06 ↗ and then the last thing um

2:00:09 ↗ let's see did i have anything else um

2:00:13 ↗ no i think those were the main things i

2:00:15 ↗ just i do think that oh no one other

2:00:18 ↗ thing so one area that i think we could

2:00:20 ↗ like in terms of requirements for

2:00:23 ↗ building owners that would

2:00:25 ↗ maybe be tied to funding of that scoping

2:00:28 ↗ assessment is

2:00:29 ↗ like how quick they are to act so are

2:00:32 ↗ they

2:00:32 ↗ in a position to actually move on this

2:00:34 ↗ and and make actions or are they just

2:00:36 ↗ doing kind of throwing something out and

2:00:38 ↗ if they're not acting within a certain

2:00:40 ↗ amount of time does that mean they're no

2:00:42 ↗ longer

2:00:43 ↗ uh the fun this scoping assessment is no

2:00:46 ↗ longer funded by the city

2:00:48 ↗ uh that just seems like one way we can

2:00:50 ↗ tie it to make sure that it's like

2:00:51 ↗ committed people that are actually going

2:00:53 ↗ to act on this the part of the process

2:00:55 ↗ that we're funding

2:00:57 ↗ great thanksgiving can i just also

2:00:58 ↗ clarification on your second point um

2:01:00 ↗ are you talking about when we get to

2:01:02 ↗ this stage where i i made that comment

2:01:04 ↗ that um the building owner wouldn't have

2:01:07 ↗ to go with the city partner is that

2:01:09 ↗ where you're saying if they choose their

2:01:11 ↗ own service provider we need to make

2:01:13 ↗ sure that

2:01:14 ↗ that provider um

2:01:17 ↗ uh

2:01:18 ↗ the improvements they're making are in

2:01:19 ↗ line with this program and

2:01:21 ↗ in my understanding this might have been

2:01:23 ↗ wrong was that in a lot of cases this is

2:01:25 ↗ kind of a design build situation where

2:01:28 ↗ the service provider that is designing

2:01:30 ↗ the and scoping the improvements needed

2:01:33 ↗ i would guess is one of the ones that's

2:01:34 ↗ also bidding on and trying to

2:01:36 ↗ participate in

2:01:38 ↗ the execution of improvements

2:01:40 ↗ um

2:01:41 ↗ that might be wrong but that was my

2:01:42 ↗ assumption and that was what i was i was

2:01:44 ↗ actually talking about earlier on in the

2:01:45 ↗ process

2:01:46 ↗ who can actually be a part of these

2:01:48 ↗ initial scoping phases and the scoping

2:01:50 ↗ assessments themselves okay um

2:01:54 ↗ but i might be misunderstanding

2:01:56 ↗ what the process of how these things

2:01:58 ↗ generally develop

2:01:59 ↗ is

2:02:00 ↗ okay

2:02:10 ↗ any other comments or questions for

2:02:12 ↗ stacy

2:02:23 ↗ i like jamie's idea of trying to get

2:02:25 ↗ good deals for um

2:02:27 ↗ issaquah businesses

2:02:30 ↗ or building owners

2:02:33 ↗ on the retrofitting and

2:02:35 ↗ energy

2:02:39 ↗ decreasing

2:02:41 ↗ thanks

2:02:44 ↗ thank you anne i guess

2:02:47 ↗ not seeing any of their comments so i

2:02:48 ↗ think to summarize it sounds like

2:02:50 ↗ there's general support for this program

2:02:53 ↗ i think some of the areas that uh

2:02:56 ↗ yeah just figuring out what above and

2:02:58 ↗ beyond might mean in this scenario i

2:03:00 ↗ don't think there was really there was a

2:03:01 ↗ couple ideas but not general consensus

2:03:03 ↗ on exactly what that looks like

2:03:05 ↗ um i had mentioned the service provider

2:03:08 ↗ thing um and

2:03:10 ↗ i think there was i'm trying to think

2:03:11 ↗ there's any other comments i think there

2:03:13 ↗ was general

2:03:15 ↗ support given that it helped the city

2:03:17 ↗ get more engaged with business owners

2:03:19 ↗ and start to partner on helping to get

2:03:21 ↗ these goals

2:03:22 ↗ deployed in these buildings

2:03:29 ↗ thank you

2:03:30 ↗ yeah thank thanks everyone for all of

2:03:32 ↗ that feedback and i know we're rushing

2:03:34 ↗ and going late um and i think i

2:03:37 ↗ kind of committed to not having these

2:03:39 ↗ board meetings go too late but really

2:03:40 ↗ appreciate that and having us

2:03:43 ↗ squeeze in these two topics ahead of

2:03:44 ↗ going to council

2:03:46 ↗ um really important feedback so

2:03:49 ↗ we'll be on the same track for president

2:03:51 ↗ councils the heat pump program

2:03:53 ↗ if all goes well and they're supportive

2:03:55 ↗ we hope to move to contracting this

2:03:57 ↗ summer and get this program underway

2:03:59 ↗ early in the fall

2:04:03 ↗ thank you stacy i think with that we

2:04:04 ↗ will move on to reports

2:04:10 ↗ all right um i have a number of reports

2:04:13 ↗ i will try and move quickly um as i know

2:04:15 ↗ we're late

2:04:16 ↗ um

2:04:17 ↗ so first one is just a follow-up this

2:04:20 ↗ may have come up even back at our

2:04:21 ↗ january meeting but there was interest

2:04:23 ↗ by the board expressed in wildlife

2:04:25 ↗ corridor studies so i just wanted to let

2:04:28 ↗ folks know that there have been

2:04:29 ↗ conversations happening within the city

2:04:31 ↗ both with parks and then with our

2:04:34 ↗ planning department

2:04:36 ↗ we've even been having some

2:04:37 ↗ conversations with consultants that do

2:04:39 ↗ these types of studies around the state

2:04:41 ↗ um we're looking at now just with

2:04:44 ↗ all that is going on um both in parks

2:04:46 ↗ and with title 18

2:04:48 ↗ that we're likely going to be putting

2:04:49 ↗ forward a budget request for our next

2:04:51 ↗ budget cycle to

2:04:53 ↗ move forward with a wildlife corridor

2:04:56 ↗ study probably next year i think there's

2:04:59 ↗ a lot more conversation needed around

2:05:01 ↗ what would the goals of that study be

2:05:02 ↗ what's the

2:05:03 ↗ need how would it be implemented um so

2:05:06 ↗ we will plan to come back to you all and

2:05:08 ↗ probably talk with some of the other

2:05:09 ↗ boards and commissions just to to bet

2:05:11 ↗ some of those goals and get some ideas

2:05:13 ↗ around that but just wanted to circle

2:05:15 ↗ back on that one because it has gotten

2:05:17 ↗ some traction but probably won't take

2:05:19 ↗ place for at least another six months or

2:05:21 ↗ so just given all that's happening with

2:05:23 ↗ the city

2:05:26 ↗ um another update that was requested at

2:05:29 ↗ the last meeting was the update on the

2:05:30 ↗ recology contract or the waste hauler

2:05:33 ↗ contract which is now the rocology

2:05:35 ↗ contract

2:05:37 ↗ so there was a presentation on monday to

2:05:39 ↗ council and they did approve for the to

2:05:42 ↗ authorize the mayor to

2:05:44 ↗ move forward with that contract

2:05:46 ↗ so just wanted to do a very brief

2:05:48 ↗ summary of the timeline for that and

2:05:50 ↗ then

2:05:52 ↗ and how we got here and then some of

2:05:54 ↗ those elements that were included in the

2:05:55 ↗ contract

2:05:57 ↗ so back in late april staff presented to

2:05:59 ↗ a city council study session on the

2:06:01 ↗ draft contract there was information

2:06:03 ↗ requested from staff to go back

2:06:07 ↗ and negotiate

2:06:08 ↗ with the the potential

2:06:11 ↗ hauler and then more information was

2:06:13 ↗ presented to the mobility and

2:06:14 ↗ infrastructure committee meeting

2:06:18 ↗ that committee

2:06:19 ↗ eventually concurred with staff

2:06:21 ↗ recommendations and then the the

2:06:23 ↗ contract was brought to council just on

2:06:25 ↗ monday for approval

2:06:27 ↗ so a few highlights of the new contract

2:06:30 ↗ and i watched part of that video earlier

2:06:33 ↗ today i can send the video from the

2:06:35 ↗ council meeting if folks are interested

2:06:36 ↗ in that presentation

2:06:38 ↗ but a few highlights that staff are able

2:06:40 ↗ to negotiate a number of changes from

2:06:42 ↗ the original proposal from rockology

2:06:46 ↗ one was moving forward with one electric

2:06:50 ↗ collection truck this year and then

2:06:52 ↗ recology is committed to having all

2:06:54 ↗ support vehicles be electric by the

2:06:56 ↗ start of their next contract which is

2:06:58 ↗ next summer

2:06:59 ↗ they are also going to advance the

2:07:01 ↗ phase-in of electric

2:07:03 ↗ hauler trucks with two trucks in 2025

2:07:07 ↗ and then planning to move to fully

2:07:08 ↗ electric by 2026 there'll be some

2:07:11 ↗ planning that'll take place in the years

2:07:13 ↗ earlier to develop that pathway to a

2:07:15 ↗ full electric fleet by 2026

2:07:18 ↗ also one i think is really exciting is

2:07:20 ↗ they will be committing a full-time

2:07:23 ↗ staff

2:07:24 ↗ a waste zero specialist just for

2:07:26 ↗ issaquah

2:07:27 ↗ which will be a great opportunity to

2:07:29 ↗ work with them especially as dale is

2:07:31 ↗ presenting those waste diversion rates

2:07:33 ↗ that are not trending in the right

2:07:35 ↗ direction right now

2:07:37 ↗ they'll also be doing inspections of

2:07:38 ↗ containers they'll be

2:07:40 ↗ more outreach tracking reporting more

2:07:43 ↗ targeted

2:07:44 ↗ work with multi-family and commercial

2:07:46 ↗ customers that have lower the ones that

2:07:49 ↗ have the lower diversion rates

2:07:51 ↗ they'll be maintaining the store

2:07:54 ↗ and then

2:07:55 ↗ something that's come up since the

2:07:57 ↗ presentation to the mobility and

2:07:59 ↗ infrastructure committee is we've been

2:08:01 ↗ having a lot more conversations about

2:08:03 ↗ wildlife proofing

2:08:04 ↗ wildlife challenges i know in my

2:08:06 ↗ neighborhood the bears are through

2:08:09 ↗ like clockwork um the night before

2:08:11 ↗ garbage collection and the day of

2:08:13 ↗ garbage collection

2:08:15 ↗ um so we're starting to talk about some

2:08:17 ↗ options outside of the contracting

2:08:20 ↗ process that we might look

2:08:22 ↗ at for bear proofing um and if if you do

2:08:25 ↗ go back and watch the video from monday

2:08:27 ↗ council member hunt did speak to this

2:08:30 ↗ but possibly um identifying some

2:08:33 ↗ um key wildlife areas we might want to

2:08:35 ↗ require or possibly

2:08:38 ↗ the city would supplement costs for bear

2:08:41 ↗ cans so more conversation to come on

2:08:43 ↗ that but it's definitely a topic that

2:08:45 ↗ we'll be continuing to discuss and

2:08:47 ↗ working to

2:08:48 ↗ address a couple more quick updates

2:08:52 ↗ the memo summarizing the board's

2:08:54 ↗ comments on the transportation

2:08:56 ↗ improvement program

2:08:58 ↗ did get submitted for the public hearing

2:09:00 ↗ and council review i believe that was

2:09:02 ↗ also on monday i had a meeting with

2:09:05 ↗ deputy council president hall a week or

2:09:07 ↗ two ago and he did want to acknowledge

2:09:11 ↗ that there are a few members of the

2:09:13 ↗ council that regularly watch the

2:09:14 ↗ environmental board meetings

2:09:16 ↗ um and are tracking uh what you all are

2:09:20 ↗ are saying um but they have really

2:09:22 ↗ appreciated the memos as well

2:09:24 ↗ summarizing those conversations um

2:09:27 ↗ clearly and succinctly so that they can

2:09:29 ↗ take that into consideration

2:09:32 ↗ for their deliberations

2:09:35 ↗ and then included in the meeting packet

2:09:37 ↗ was the updated meeting calendar

2:09:40 ↗ as i noted

2:09:41 ↗ we had to ship some items around just

2:09:43 ↗ because of timing

2:09:45 ↗ of reports or plans being ready

2:09:48 ↗ so do just take a look at

2:09:50 ↗ some of the changes to that calendar

2:09:53 ↗ and then also finally i wanted to flag

2:09:55 ↗ the email from candy lorenzo on the

2:09:57 ↗ deconstructing bias training they are

2:09:59 ↗ asking all board and commission members

2:10:01 ↗ to sign up for one of those training

2:10:03 ↗ dates

2:10:04 ↗ and feel free to reach out with any

2:10:06 ↗ questions on that

2:10:09 ↗ that was a lot

2:10:10 ↗ thank you jamie that that's all i have

2:10:13 ↗ uh today

2:10:14 ↗ thank you stacy um any other business or

2:10:17 ↗ announcements

2:10:21 ↗ all right hearing none thanks everyone

2:10:23 ↗ for sticking around a bit later um

2:10:25 ↗ and with that we're adjourned have a

2:10:27 ↗ good night

2:10:30 ↗ thanks everyone

2:10:33 ↗ thanks everyone

2:10:43 ↗ you

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