oh good evening and welcome to the
November 13th meeting of the planning
policy Commission the first thing on our
agenda is approval of the
minutes do I have a motion to
approve I have a
second any discussion
changes with that I will call for the
question all those in favor of approval
of the minutes say I I
opposed the motion car great um tonight
we're going to continue our comp plan
discussion and we're going to talk about
parks and we're g to talk about human
services so first of all Trisha is going
to give us an update on you're on the
agenda right the first um piece you're
going to see is the updated Parks
element and Jen fin from the parks
department is here to present it to you
you might recall that in the summer I
presented the existing plan which is um
several years old and um had not had any
amendments or any changes done to it I
it was just more of an education on
where we're starting because I knew that
soon we would have a new and improved
element to share with you and that's
what we get to see tonight um you have
it in your packet um it's so complete
with inventory and uh all sorts of good
stuff in there and Jen's here to present
it and to also answer your question and
also the director an Migel and the
deputy director uh Brian bernston is
here also in the audience to help us if
we have um sorts of questions which I
don't think we're going to have a lot of
questions but just in case they are a
super resource for us as we move forward
through the parks element the other
piece that Jen may go into but I
remember was a little confusing this
summer when we presented is there's the
parks element that is our purview the
planning policy commission and um the
planning piece of of development
services and that's the policies and
goals for the parks system but the parks
department has a bigger Parks plan that
they have to um update every five years
is it six years and that's in order to
get State monies and other funding to
help us with our Park system so they're
two different documents the similarities
are the um inventory and the policy
pieces but um their plan the big plan
which I call it doesn't have to be done
until next year so there's a lot of of
good work that's going to be done on
that with Outreach and
um public involvement and all sorts of
other pieces to that that aren't
included in our little element part and
so um sometimes it's hard to keep those
two um separate in our mind so I just
wanted to say that as an introduction
that sometimes I even get confused on
are we talking about the element or the
plan um because ours ppc's purview is
the element piece the policies and goals
so with that I come on and step up to
the podium and welcome Jen be relaxed
and thank you do you want the long
version or the short
version um thank you for having
me the Trish is right on as far as the
planning policies I've only been here
three months and so getting involved in
tackling this policy update for the park
element took a little bit of time as she
stated the big plan as she called it I'm
G to say that for
simplify the title of it um is due to
the recreation conservation office in
March of 2016 so this element that's
presented tonight while some of the
policies have changed relative to what
you were previously presented um some of
the other documents that it references
are from the past I had to jump ahead a
little bit and kind of start in on the
big plan in order to create this
document um for the update so when we
come up with a new plan for the 2016 big
plan we will have a little bit more uh
detail and information and touch on some
subjects that were not mentioned in this
element like Recreation and um
programming and other items that that
really are part of the park
system um so to start I think I just
wanted to Quick mention what the mission
of the Parks and Recreation Department
is I think sometimes we get so drilled
down into the details that we forget
what our basic mission is so the mission
of the Parks and Recreation Department
is to strengthen the community image and
sense of place support Economic
Development strengthen Safety and
Security promote health and wellness
Foster human development increase
cultural Unity protect environmental
resources provide recreational
experiences and facilitate Community
problem solving
so when I took a look at the park
element I wanted to take a little more
holistic approach than some of the
policies that were previously mentioned
to again address Recreation to address
new plans that have come into action
since 2009 when these policies were PRI
written like the central isqua plan um
some um management plans we have for
open space and other things so some of
the inventory was categorized to
represent other management documents
that we
have uh the larger Park plan the big
plan due in March will go out for we're
going to do a survey of community to get
input on the Park and Recreation system
to help identify some of our strengths
and our weaknesses to be able to plan
ahead on we'll also be putting it out
for public comment and review as well as
um I think that's it
so um let's
see let me quick pull this
up
see I thought I would just kind of quick
walk through the um Park
policies for you assuming you've all
read the document um like we said the
reason what we're doing this is because
of the growth management act and it's
requirements and what our purposes
um bear with me a
moment rather than really Drilling in on
why each individual policy was changed
I'm going to approach it by addressing
each group of policies what the thoughts
were behind it and then if at the end of
each section there's any questions you
know please feel free to ask and let me
know um the first one the objective
to plan for our parks for today and the
future um a lot of times we get so busy
looking down the road we forget to look
at where we are right now and what our
policies and our Park systems need and
to include um multi-
recreational
opportunities um proportional to our
current needs but also it with the
foresight of what our future goals will
be future growth patterns and things
like that so while we're operating today
we always have to keep tomorrow in
mind and we need to plan our Park system
using you know planned growth patterns
and ideas as to where development's
going to occur like the central isqua
plan really has represented um
programming where the new Open Spaces
are going to be Trail connections things
like that and then also seek pretal
opportunities what are we going to do as
far as our programming and our other
recreational facilities to always keep
ourselves new to always seize an
opportunity when exposed to the
recreation um system and anticipate that
within our our
needs the next one is the acquisition
and development
policies you know it's our job to
acquire lands both for recreational uses
but also for conservation
purposes um we can
also you know
lost my train of thought
sorry um you know as far as even the
areas for an
annexation but as far as development
policies as well you know there's
already in the CIP uh Central isqua plan
you know development for a quarter acre
half acre
um parks within a radius of a
neighborhood development that's a goal
for design to be able to afford some
type of Park system within that and when
I get into the new the big plan I'll be
addressing how the different parks and
try and come up with a map so we can
look at it a little more graphically how
we're doing as far as the shortfalls or
if we are providing to our goal of a
quarter and a half mile radius so I'll
be striving towards that um we also want
to support the green necklace isqua's
wonderful in that we have so much
diverse um population and demographics
um as well as native environment that
we're able to um fulfill and connect and
meet the urban interface with the
natural interface we have you know 51%
tree cover right now and a built
environment in within the city limits
that's just an amazing opportunity but
with all of our natural resources and
future plans you know we are forced with
how we're going to have to deal with
that interface and it becomes a little
more Technical and a little more
difficult um but is very
achievable um we also need to you know
look at developing our Parklands to
maximize the opportunities you know a
lot of
times piece of land is purchased with
Grant monies and there's restrictions as
far as development but if we can afford
a pathway through that land let's try
and develop it let's make our system the
best it potentially can be within the
parameters set forth on any given piece
of
property we also want to identify um
neighborhood needs and
um make sure that everything's connected
within riparian corridors and tree line
streets and all of those things and make
sure we're connecting to um connecting
our comprehensive Trail all of our Open
Spaces green necklace linkages so on and
so
forth um let's see
here are there any questions so far as
far as the first section of
policies
okay sorry I've been a little wound up
today
um our second goal is to Foster and
support
uh stewardship provide balanced needs
within our Park system you know often
times we think parks are just Parks but
we also have facilities Recreation
programming we have users we interface
with special interest groups we have
um you know natural growth protected
areas we have Trails we have um all
sorts of different varieties and a lot
of times we think it's just Parks but
there's also a lot of facilities within
that and programming that goes along um
so we really need to think broadly take
a little more holistic approach to the
park system and how we're going to be
addressing it and the
changes
um like I said the you know we have the
interface between the natural resources
the built environment and really the
city
is to serve as the stewards of all of
these different properties and the
interface between them
so we get into our balance needs
policies which is access and education
everyone should have access
to the park system not only just through
a trail but to be able to go work out at
the community center to be able
to go use the Trails house if a special
group wanted to be able to do it um
there's a lot of different options out
there for people and we need to be able
to um address that as well as the
diverse Heritage that the city
represents I've mentioned connectivity
many times but as we continue to grow we
really do need to
um connect everything to promote health
and sustainability especially as the
city begins to grow there will be a lot
more
um need as a population increases for a
healthy Park system to be able
to um offset the density of living with
open space and recreational
opportunities we also want to be sure to
um promote and protect Environmental
Quality our open
spaces um and cultural
experiences you know strive to provide
universal
access at each facility where feasible
we understand that you know Ada is a
challenge um to make every ounce of
everything accessible and I know a study
has been done recently
I haven't seen the details of that but
it is something that as we move forward
with the park system we're feasible to
strive and provide that to our
users especially as populations change
um demographics change and recreational
needs also
change different Park element
policies um planning it's a goal to
create a very vibrant um um active
recreational park
system um we want to embrace different
types of plans that have been set forth
and incorporate them and make sure that
everybody's all the different plans are
talking to each other and striving to
work towards the same Mission as far as
um making issaqua one of the best places
to
live we also want to create a sense of
place you know you should know when
you're at a certain Park that it's a
city park when you're on a trail you
should know that you're on the Rainer
Trail especially as new trails are come
into the system you want to know where
that trail is going to be able to take
you or that you know you'll be able to
get to a safe Street along the way um
that's even true up in when you're up in
Tradition Plateau you want to know that
okay I know these Trails will connect me
somewhere that I can get myself back to
and gives some cute to
people we also want to utilize our
vegetation um wisely and that includes
you know using D drought tolerant plants
and being wise of our
resources we also want to encourage play
areas I have a question yes you're
talking about uh Native intolerant uh
vegetation water to M I don't see
anything here about noxious weeds so any
comments about you know attempt to
eradicate no your squeeze wherever they
are I just never found anything in there
I think that should be that is not in
here was certainly something policy or
something you would follow if you had
that's usually in our integrated Pest
Management is a lot of the what is one
of the plans and noxious weeds is in
that as far as a management practice
pest dealing yeah usually pest is
dealing with other live Critters not
plan right and further on in the
management sections we do reference the
integrated Pest Management and other
various management um documents that we
would reference in the policies okay but
not specifically noxious weeds yeah so I
I just think here we talking about
native plants and so forth it would be
worth having something dealing with
noxious weeds here because I I didn't
get that into integrated Pest Management
and Pest Management to me goes to the
you know live uh you know insects and
that type of nature versus right right
that's a wonderful idea certainly make
that
addition anything
else move
on um
signage signage is one of those
strategic
items you need it some people want more
sometimes it can be overused and create
CL and visual Hazard um within the park
system it's our goal to use it wisely
and minimally uh as to not deter but
also
to use it when needed to provide
direction or education or information uh
for
people for Park
users visual policies you know we're
blessed living in the isqua Alps with
beautiful Vistas native environments
and we really as part of our stewardship
and part of the beauty of isqua need to
embrace that um So within the park
system try and provide both relief from
the urban built Urban environment as
well as um protect our Vistas in our
native Scapes like the CIP has done with
um in its
development again creating
um a sense of place within our
boulevards um just going back to P51 I I
think we want to emphasize that we don't
want to mitigate necessarily all impacts
of the urban environment just the
negative impacts and so just to make
sure that list is and talking about the
the negative impacts that we have as a
result of being a dense City great
suggestion
anything
else
um access
policies again it's our goal to create a
vibrant Park system and provide active
and recreational facilities to as many
people as possible and that also
includes
programming
um but we want the opportunities to be
consistent with what the intended use
was you know we don't want
to contradict that and I forgot what I
was going to say scratch
that
um but Healthy Living I think this is
one of the best policies that we've
added is the Parks and Recreation
Department is all about being active
getting out there enjoying your Outdoors
being moving around and this
policy is encouraging people to do that
we want people to be outside we want
them to
um have opportunities to walk or to ride
their bike or to push a stroller or to
go trail running if they would want to
but we also want to be able to provide
those opportunities for those who may be
underprivileged um and be able to make
those those opportunities affordable
through scholarship programs or whatever
we need
to so nobody is left out and all can
afford a healthy
lifestyle I I guess I'm confused what
does that mean your scholarship program
what is that going to specifically
address some of the underprivileged are
no I understand who the people would be
but what is it they're going to be um it
says encourage Healthy Living what does
that mean or active Recreation is it
scholarships to the community center
what what does it mean that is
specifically for the community center
bot you can't you can't you have to be
you have to go to the mic sorry sorry
for our big television viewing audience
so they can hear if I hop in sorry about
that usually I'm told to be quieter so
um with the scholarships basically that
money would not be an issue for kids to
participate in programs and you're
exactly correct that most of the times
that would be at our community center
aquatics facility we also run programs
throughout this squas school district so
that would be the primary use for that
okay thank you
Brian and so um going on that we may
want to alter that a little bit to
Foster the development of
um scholarships for recreational
programs and
Facilities um so that we're not unduly
limiting the council in
that very
good thank
you and I guess how would you in I mean
this is how would you encourage Healthy
Living are you going to how would are
you going to advertise are you going to
um what are you going to do to encourage
healthy living or is this just a an OD
add-on from the other first part of that
sentence I think Healthy Living comes
with having those items available to you
and making it an integral part of the
community um as far as healthy living if
you know there's a trail there and you
can walk from your home to somewhere or
you can easily access a trail or another
Park along the way
um you know a lot of times people are
afraid to get out and I think
encouraging Healthy Living is now how
would you encourage how would you put
brochures together to explain that this
is good for you what would you do to
encourage I'll grab that one too if I
can real fast uh yeah exactly with the
brochures you know we do a brochure
that's out to the public online we also
reach out to the schools and work with
them and and it's the opportunity like
the Healthy Living components just it
sort of is and it's what we do as Parks
and Recreation right getting kids
exposed to Nature and the outdoor
environment as well as getting them
exposed to youth Athletics a young age
and a friendly environment where they
all get to play and participate so we do
reach out through the community but
everything has a healthy living
component to it to expose people to
physical activity in the outdoors to get
out and get moving type of philosophy is
what we sort of guide ourselves
by understand that what I was
questioning do you need to add anything
on there or is everybody content with
just encourage healthy
living fine
okay anything else on that one goe okay
local Partnerships and Regional
coordination we are so very fortunate to
have in our local agreements with the
isqua school district the park system
relies heavily upon the facilities to
help with some of our programming as
well as
um all those students then in turn use
our system as well so it's a real
win-win situation
for all users that
benefit we also have um
wonderful programs with King County um
and Department of Natural
Resources but overall we first our
management policies
um we talk about in
this the topic was Regional and local
but we talk about ours as our local as
first in our service and management
policies we address you know our
stewardship offering diverse Park
programming for all different
needs we also address safety that comes
in many various
forms from vegetation to uh facilities
inspections to uh
pruning
vegetation we also Embrace citizen
involvement special interest groups a
lot of volunteers help make things in
our Park system
happen and Resource
Management we could not manage
everything that we man manage in the
diverse manner if we didn't have the
integrated Pest Management our Open
Space Management plans um stewardship
plans as well we rely heavily upon those
and to help protect our
resources facility management we
also um perform routine inspections we
help
um minimize the
impacts and we utilize maintenance
operations manuals and other operating
procedures to help ensure Public Safety
when our facilities are being
used we try and embrace best management
practices and all that we do
and back into the partnership policies
again the interlocal agreement with the
esqua school
district in the design and development
processes we partner with developers to
help
encourage active recreational play
spaces and park development or
Trails so one thing I'm not seeing under
the partnership policies is uh um kind
of keeping an open eye towards potential
um County state or federal funds for
parks that may become available as big
policy that's the next section down
that's a nine the
regional Regional courin
yeah and then teamwork I think it should
be a goal of the parks department to
also Park and Recreation Department to
also work with
other inner agency
teams and divisions to make sure our
Park system
is
wonderful
and coordination occurs during the
planning process and communication and
development Regional coordination is
also one of
our favorite uh opportunities we Depend
and work a lot with the Department of
Natural
Resources King
County fish and
wildlife
um in not only achieving grants but in
the management of our natural resources
we seek
um a lot of
uh because we interface with so many
public lands it also provides a unique
opportunity there for us to connect our
Trails or to
um provide and protect our waterways you
know like in the waterways program along
isqua Creek obtain land to help preserve
habitat and Native vegetation so our um
re working relationships with them
sometimes don't always aren't always
right at the boundaries where we
interface but also on our waterways and
our other natural resources within the
city limits yeah and I'm still not
within this objective seeing kind of
that that um just um keeping an eye out
for monies that aren't necessarily tied
to any Cooperative agreement where we're
not necessarily working with another
agency in a partnership but things like
you know federal grants that may become
available um so what i' I'd like to see
is is a specific policy um maybe
9.3 or maybe a policy um within eight um
that we will um seek external sources of
funding
um through grants uh I think I think
this Cooperative planning addresses
partnership efforts I don't think it
need to be anything other than looking
for funding elsewhere
okay thank you
any further questions on some of the
policies that kind of
yes I don't know if I'm on or not maybe
I'm not I can hear
you there is a constituency that's
underserved and I think underserved and
that's my constituency
seniors and uh at the community center I
had suggested several times that they
look into uh uh senior sneakers which is
a program uh that is subsidized
basically by most of the hmos and I've
never gotten a good reason why uh this
is not part of the program so I thought
I'd make a pitch for it while you're
here well I'm glad you did and being new
I have
not this is the first I've heard of that
so I'll have to go back and reference
but I will be sure as we go addressing
in the big plan um the recreational
opportunities to make sure we look into
making sure it's balanced for all users
including the seniors
yes any further questions on policies I
I just need a
clarification um with the Arts
commission we're putting together uh
brochure that encompasses every art
facet in the city and I know you
referenced a
brochure uh that the parks department
puts together do you have a brochure
that I'm new to the city I can find out
every just every Park and how it's
connected with a diagram do you have
that or is it I know that there's
there's stuff that talks about what's
going on in the community center and all
these other things but just in relation
to
Parks um there is in our parks and
recreation guide there is a quick
reference Matrix in the very beginning
so if you are looking for parks with
picnic tables you can quick reference
which Parks those are um or with
restrooms um as far as the parks
themselves and in this new um updated
element the park system has been broken
out into different categories ver from
what it was priorly referred to and
within those we have these map maps of
where those are located in the addresses
as well and where do you find those well
these were just developed for this
policy it will be in the updated plan
well no it in the future will it be just
online or will it be a something that I
can I haven't spoken with staff
regarding that how we'll get it out
there I know the um 2016 big plan that
we'll be working on will be posted
online
uh when we're done um and I will be
incorporating The Matrix and stuff as
well but I can certainly talk and see if
we can get to some kind of brochure this
is a thought you know everybody doesn't
look online all the time and sometimes
they just like to have some handout some
brochure that gives you a a general idea
of where the parks are and what they are
MH and that's something we could
probably work to incorporate even in the
um Recreation guide to is a quick
reference
map any other questions
updates thank you did a good job thank
you very
much and what before you I guess just a
page back there but when you um page 29
you got the property acquired since
2009 it's a chart there yes um the the
total looks off I'm going to check your
map on
I can't get 10 I know but it still
doesn't have 129 it's like maybe
119 check your map okay thank you for
pointing that out I thought Excel had
done it for
me I read that and I couldn't couldn't
understand anyway and then and then I it
up well and then other point just I
guess to clarify my other point on on uh
un noxious weeds I wasn't clear when I
said I think there should be a policy
line there CL okay I didn't say yes I
did catch
that anything else no all right thank
you very
much we all need need and love Park so
um all of the work is uh worthwhile and
we're you know hope to have many more if
we could fit them in the
city com what want public yeah I'm going
to um I know that um you all received a
uh public comment input on Parks I just
wanted to know if you had any questions
about that or if the person who
submitted the
um uh comments would like
to say anything
else I would well now's your chance
I really think that people who come to
to meetings are really interested in the
cities and should have the opportunity
even though it isn't a public comment
type uh open Forum here
welcome hi my name is Connie Marsh and I
live in town and I have a business in
town to you 1175 Northwest Gilman
Boulevard sweet be 11 okay um
so I I I know some of you and I don't
know some of you so um I've long worked
with the isqua environmental Council and
have done massive quantities of open
space
maintenance um on the board of save Lake
samamish just got off the boards of
friends of Lake samamish State Park
because I'm on too many boards I'm on
the board of uh I guess isqua
environmental Council and work closely
with isqua Alps and then I sort of try
on my topics of interest to follow these
policies and processes that go through
city council to try to make an awesome
City and so it's a little creepy but
I've been doing it for about 15 years
now and this will be my third time up to
speak about the parks uh element in the
comprehensive plan and uh so far I
haven't gotten very far on making the
changes I want and and I'm not sure why
that is right now the city council is
going through the level of
service uh impact fees so they
are before the element gets done for the
capital capital facilities part which
you guys I think took a peek at or this
they going to decide what the park
impact fees should be um which made my
eyes blink because I started reading it
and went you know those level of
service standards that we have are
actually funding a negative balance for
funding for Parks they accepted at some
point in time that there was no deficit
in the park system so it was adequately
funded and then they put in the impact
fees but then they also said there was
another deficit of 44% that the city had
to pay for and what this basically means
is Parks hasn't gotten enough money from
Impact fees for a very long time since
1999 this is my opinion but you can
verify it all you want I think I'm right
on this one and so when we look at how
Parks should be
funded um that's what I've been thinking
about for days and days and days because
how do we actually get enough money to
get great parks and I look at the
element and I look at the impact fees
and I say you know what is missing here
is what the deficits are how much those
are going to cost how much money do we
need to make a great Park system what
should each component of our Park system
look like to make us say you know what
that's what we want the park to be maybe
not right now cuz it's not there but
this is what we envision it to be to be
the park that we need and we have parts
of all of those things but I have a hard
time thinking we're going to get a great
Park system if we don't identify what
exactly is a neighborhood park and what
do we need in it to call it that and
have everyone who goes in there be
satisfied with our Parks what's the
maintenance level Etc and so when I read
this
element um it wasn't organized in a way
that I thought was functional there were
lots of topics under lots of categories
that were all crossed and so I couldn't
understand even how to put in my
opinions so I gave you
all what I thought the policy decision
changes should
be um and
what I guess the basis of that is I
think we should understand in what
neighborhood each neighborhood I should
say in the city how well it's being
served by all the components of our Park
system and then we can decide from
there how much money and where we should
prioritize that money to be spent to
continue to create the system and that's
how we can make the developers pay their
fair share in the neighborhoods that
they decide to grow and I I looked at
maybe I don't know 10 or 12 different
jurisdictions around the country to see
what they did and and um there's a lot
of variation but a l much of it was how
far in each neighborhood are you from
each Park component so how well served
is it and um that is how you can see
what's missing and what is there and so
I would like to see that sort of a
standard be put into this comprehensive
Plan update I don't feel that our
current method of of uh trying to gain
Parks is working I work with trying to
get the developers to do the right thing
and we don't have any teeth to tell them
exactly what we need so we have a really
hard time getting an what I would
consider to be appropriate amounts of
money out of them to make a great City
and a great Park system
um is this a total redo I don't think
it's a total redo I think it might be a
reorganization in an
emphasis um this element is emphasizing
Recreation I don't know if that's right
or wrong uh it certainly got rid of
wildlife corridors boom they're just
gone and I disagree with that but is
that appropriate I don't know how we're
making those decisions this would create
a method of making those decisions so
what do I expect you to do with all of
this
information
well if it were me which it's
not I would say uh we need to
rethink how we're analyzing our parks
and I would like to see this come back
because there's time the next time it
comes back this is not a decision night
with some ideas on how we can without
spending massive quantities of money
create a better system for funding and
maintaining and prioritizing our
Parks
um one other little bit would like to
emphasize is we our comprehensive plan
says we're supposed to have a 51% tree
canopy but we don't I think the parks
department should be responsible for
getting those tree plant trees planted
to make sure we have 51% of the tree
canopy okay and that's just a a little
aside
um that was likely hopelessly
complicated so I I I hope it was
understandable and if not I apologize
thanks
thanks Connie
um so as a
followup um to um Connie's
concerns
um at what
point I I know it says it's in here so I
know you're doing it at one point are
you going to have a have a comprehensive
Park plan where you know where the parks
are going to be what needs to be done on
each Park um we don't have the preview
of uh the responsibility of coming up
with how to pay for it I mean we don't
the impact fees are basically determined
by the city and what you guys think you
need to support the the system is there
a process underway to um you know I know
we need all this stuff but
basically uh a a goal of this is going
to happen and this is going to happen
and this we need this to make this
happen type of a of a scenario does that
make sense to you are you working to
that
point any one of you I think to um just
part of what um and I'm only speaking
for the central plan because we've met
on that before but the central plan
outlined several places where there
would be big neighborhood parks because
there aren't any now um one area is up
to the west of the city
um and what we call um the mole property
um because that it's the owners and um
so there's a big dat on the central plan
map that says that someday when this
property is developed there will be a
neighborhood park there because it's
underserved what we weren't able to do
through the central plan plan process is
with all those little dots that we knew
we needed to have with Parks we weren't
able to say what was going to be there
in the future um number one CU we don't
know what age group and type of you know
is it going to be family singles
Apartments how you know we don't really
know what's going in so we can't really
say this definitely has to be a
skateboard park because you know what if
it's non- skateboarding folks that are
going to live there or near there and so
part of it we left open because we know
part of it is going to be determined by
who's going to be living there but the
other part is we wanted to be able to
work with the parks department to find
out how they figure out needs for those
areas because we just did it through um
you know how many quarters of a mile
would you have to walk to get to a park
that's one of our criteria as planners
but we knew that as recreation parks
folks they have different criteria
additional criteria than we do so we
were going to take the next year while
they're working on the big plan to help
fill in those pieces of what would those
parks in the central plan need to have
to be as Connie says um to be
satisfactory to those to those areas
that um that they're going to serve um
as for the other areas I don't know if
that's part of the um update as well as
to try to figure out um more specifics
on what kinds of facilities or things
are needed in the big
plan this type of planning is going to
happen yes with that's all I I want
that's the answer I wanted but with the
um first we'll be doing a survey of the
public about our current Park system and
um things that they feel
maybe our some of our deficits so we'll
get a gauge on what the current
um Community feel is about the park
system and then I hope as we start going
through the planning process and start
working more closely with Planning and
Development too is to acknowledge each
of our parks are they being used to
their best and start doing an evaluation
normally in the um comprehensive plan
the big plan
um historically standards for from the
national
Recreation um were used you know you
needed one tennis court per thousand
people or whatever the standard was
don't quote me on that one um just threw
that off my top of my head but there
were hard standards well those are no
longer valid um people are doing what is
good for their community and really
gauging Community input and user um
sentiments as far as are they meeting
the needs of their Community because
what may work for us as far as needing
Trails may not work for a neighboring
community so having a National Standard
um as communities are growing and
demographics are changing user needs
change um so it's really becoming a more
how are we doing for ourselves what are
our goals for our community what are
Community goals are we achieving those
goals and so I hope as we start going
through this master planning process to
really be taking a more critical look um
and working with Trish and hopefully
getting some bigger ideas you know that
whether or not we need a play structure
here or we need a ball field here or how
are we going to achieve those items and
have a much better um view of the Future
Park system does that answer your
question a little bit oh yeah I mean I
knew the answer I just wanted you
to follow up and and be on record and
and uh yeah see that there is a plan out
there that you're planning to do this
yeah it's work in progress okay yes
thank you anything
else I guess just to follow up a little
bit and going back on and I think what
she was asking about is the vision and
and that's what's I think a little light
on the vision side here I mean actually
you know statement in discussions is you
know
um I forget where it is but but
basically lands picked up for Parks
because they become available you know
it feels like it feels like a a mishmash
it just well oh there's a place okay
we'll grab it and so what I mean like
bluntly I've lived here a lot of years
I'm just the first time I could see
where all the parks are listed in this
thing I've been wanting to that
information for a long time because I
hear these names and it says such some
where the heck is that and it's some
little island somewhere or something
that I you know I saw a green space but
I never KN knew it was a park you know a
city park right and so that's kind of
combining a lot of things of of where
are all these things I don't think the
public knows cuz I don't know what I've
been looking for them um and and a
vision of what you know so we put a
thing like green
necklace I don't know what that means
that means a bunch of little dots
scattered to the Four Winds I don't know
what that means either so I guess the
the point here is is that out giving
some more concreteness to a vision that
says we're missing some things and these
are some things we're trying to get to
um would would help a lot because I kind
of see it you know and and and yes some
things opportunities come sometimes and
you're not aware of them and you want to
take advantage of those and you may not
know sure where they're going to work in
the future but you grab those
opportunities because they are hard to
come by open spaces so it's a
combination of taking advantage of those
things but you have to have the vision
so you do something good in that process
and not just just because it's
there that make some
sense okay me ask one more time are
there any more
comments okay so the parks department
has done a good job and thank you for
being here and presenting uh right now
we're going to move on to Trish and
human Serv Human Services and um the
only and thank you guys for presenting
and doing such a job and thanks Connie
for sharing your comments too with us we
we'll see how it goes for the next
time and we can talk offline about the
deficit piece because I think I can
help describe
that oh okay okay
um silver speakers
oh you've heard speak of
it now that was good I haven't heard of
that either that's a good one um the
reason that you got the Human Services
element again I think um you've seen it
maybe twice before is that in going
through uh the requirements of the
growth management act um this last time
there's food security policies and food
um what's the other word um the we had
thought we were going to put in just not
reading all of the requirements we
thought we were going to put it in the
land use element until we read further
on what was required and we realized it
really didn't have a lot to do per se
with the land as much as it did with all
the Human Services piece that it's
accessible that it's um available that
there's a lot of different varieties
that it's protected and it seemed like a
better match for the pieces and parts
that we have in the human services
element so we drafted
um some policies and goals in there and
um sent it through to I'm not sure if
the Human Service excuse me if the Human
Services um commission was able to look
at it oh good um because I know David
sent the Human Services did look at it
and we were fine with it oh good because
I know David sent it back but he didn't
with some edits and I didn't know if
they were just his edits or if you had
had a chance to oh good that makes me
feel even better and um so those are in
there and what I also put in there just
to see if it was helpful is I put a
matrix of the um existing policies and
then the new policies or anything
different next to it in the next column
and the reason I um I started with this
one with human services is of all the
elements so far that we've drafted um
there's more new proposals in human
services than in any other element um
and a lot of that is because of new
requirements from growth
management and a lot of it is because
that this element is was so old for us
that there were a lot of really great
ideas that we wanted to add um the
newest pieces for you tonight um are the
Ada the Americans with Disabilities Act
policies which is the um Human Services
goal D and then as I mentioned the
healthy and sustainable food access and
security which um is goal
B and are there any questions about that
or is there any confusion with the way
I've laid out the Matrix on um the red
is what's
new uh the um the let's see that would
be the left side is the existing goals
and policies and the other side are the
new ones uh and the new ones are in red
another one I realized I hadn't put in
here is there's a whole section on
Volunteers in the existing document that
aren't addressed in the new version and
that's because um the volunteers are
listed in the indicators that uh David
and Megan presented is it a month ago
now that's one of the thing the items
that they track every year or two on the
volunteer aspects of isqua how many
boards and commissions do we have and
Joan you mentioned the um Kanas do we
ever track anything that other groups do
and we don't yet we should but we
haven't figured out a mechanism but
that's why the volunteer pieces is not
in human services anymore and I realized
as I was going through it tonight that
that's not listed in the Matrix so I
need to fix that before before it's
final are there any questions on the new
policies and goals or um rewarding or
have you all read
it well of course they
have um under um HS B um on the healthy
and sustainable food access and security
uh under food
security um bullet two I just wanted to
know not the
typo there after the first sentence just
we have a comma and a period just kind
of hanging
there um under food access uh under it's
bullet two under um food
security improve access to food for the
community now and in the future period
comma
period on page
78 so is it in the number one or number
two number two oh I see it's in the
second one I got it I was going to say I
don't see any bullets there but now I
see where you are good
catch and and then I guess the follow I
mean I'm not commenting on various
things of text font things that are just
I'm assuming those are going to be
cleaned up and matched up later because
there's times it it seems to change in
the middle of ser policy and this was a
funny one you know just to say some
times things are demented but no matter
how I keep changing this as soon as I
print it out it all goes back wacky so I
don't know what it is about my machine
that cannot control my fonts so I fig
those kinds of things you'll take care
of yeah I think I'm just going to have
Kristen printed next time because I saw
this as soon as it came out and I went
no but yes sadly more on the policy end
of this on under policies for b um one
of the things that I'm not seeing just
specifically spelled out
is um and not a huge problem now but as
Transportation you know goes the way of
the
dodo um we're going to need to ensure
that there are no that we're looking at
whether there are food deserts and how
we can mitigate those um meaning that
not having just a a corner store that
doesn't have fruits and vegetables but
making sure that the healthy
alternatives are available and it's kind
of addressed within several of the
policies but the the trend is to address
those specifically as food deserts and
and mitigating food deserts right and
I've I've seen those in other cities
where they talk about that and I figured
because we're so small it seemed like
such a huge term but you're right that's
the term that they use when there's just
sort of a a vacancy of nothing going on
in a certain Geographic so I can add
that in there as part of it
other thoughts or questions or
additions this makes everybody hungry
reading about reading this
one none okay anything about the
Ada
one okay anything to fix on the
comparison will that work for you all
for the to try and do that same format
for the other elements to kind of help
you realize what what's there and what's
new and not included yeah kind of help
okay because it sure helped me and I do
this all the time so I thought I bet
this might help us get a handle on
what's really
changing well super well with that
that's all I have um as you know there
wasn't a public hearing tonight because
the um the part that we thought we had
to adopt by the end of this year turns
out that we get a little more time on it
so we all get a little more time so uh
we don't think the public hearing uh on
every will be till early next year so we
have a little bit more time so that was
that's good news for all of us I think
and your next meeting is cancelled
because it's Thanksgiving because it's
on the holidaying
yeah yes it would have been so and then
December same thing just the first
meeting and no second meeting because
that would be correct correct so I know
it's pretty light and you're going to
you're going to be really lonesome for
all this but we'll we'll try to make it
worth your while I'm not exactly sure
what's on for December but I'm sure
we'll have something spellbinding for
the December
meeting at least maybe hot water for tea
I'll see if that could be like the big
the big thing
like I better make myself a note be
spellbinding in
December yikes so uh thank you for all
your comments tonight the reason I said
have you read it because I know you
always come up with comments and I
hadn't heard any so then you did so that
was really cool so since there isn't a
meeting I hope you all have a great
Thanksgiving and uh uh don't eat too
much turkey and I will see we will see
you in December December turkey is my
food security
yes and then go walking on the trails so
and so we
are at
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