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Thursday, June 18, 2020

6:00 PM · 2h 6m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
Mobility Master Plan (MMP) Update ID 1507 14/22
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
Transportation Advisory Board About Created in 2017, this board — yet to be Staff Liaison initiated — will provide additional expertise and Stephen Padua, advice on the City’s transportation system and Senior Transportation Manager goals. Email Membership Regular Members The Transportation Advisory Board will be 2020 – Cynthia Krass comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2020 – Vacant three alternates. Initial terms will be staggered. 2021 – Tom McDonald All members are appointed by the Mayor and 2021 – Nina Milligan subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms 2021 – Kobi Sunday* expire April 30 of the year listed. For more 2022 – Sujata Goel information, see IMC 2.92. 2022 – Stephanie Salemann 2023 – Vacant 2023 – Marisol Visser
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of Jan. 27, 2020
packet pp.5–6
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 01-27-20 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000]
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Election of Chair and Vice Chair
Action · 5 min · packet pp.7
Topics: Elections
Staff report:
Public Works Engineering 1775 – 12th Ave NW | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3400 issaquahwa.gov
4b
Mobility Master Plan (MMP) Schedule
5 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.9–11
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
Review of MMP Progress • Guiding Principles– Early 2019 • Planning Context & Future Needs– All 2019 • Major Policies and Criteria– All 2019 / Early 2020 • Project Needs– Late 2019 / Early 2020 • Outline Needs – Late 2019 / Early 2020
4c
Review - MMP Policies & Prioritization Criteria, (D)
20 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.13–36
Staff report:
Transportation Advisory Board AGENDA ITEMS c) June 18, 2020 Special Meeting Item 03c -Criteria
4e
New – MMP Project List
Discussion · 35 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.69–99
Staff report:
to meet modal network standards
5. REPORTS
5a
Staff Report
5b
Chair Report
5c
Youth Report
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
Next Meeting: To Be Determined
0:04 I think we might be ready
0:09 9a Milligan and I want to welcome you to
0:10 the transportation advisory board
0:12 meeting it's Thursday June 18 2020 we
0:15 are meeting remotely and we have a great
0:18 deal of business this evening so I'm
0:20 looking forward to diving into it I want
0:23 to say that public comments will be
0:25 allowed as they are listed in the agenda
0:28 and you can find the instructions for
0:31 that the easiest way because there's a
0:33 call-in number and a meeting code number
0:35 the easiest way to do that is to go to
0:37 Issaquah wad of or would slash 2902
0:40 forward slash transportation and click
0:43 on our agenda and you'll see the
0:45 instructions right there
0:46 how we will get to the audience comments
0:50 in item number 3
0:54 I wanted to reiterate that we have our
1:00 our board members we have staff and
1:03 we'll be juggling this is the first time
1:06 that I have run a meeting I've been in
1:08 many online meetings in the last three
1:10 months I'm gonna tell you everybody I'll
1:12 test you that's oh please begging for
1:14 forgiveness in advance and for any grace
1:17 and help that you might want to give me
1:19 along the way to make sure this runs
1:20 smoothly but I'll do my best
1:22 so to start off the meeting I'd like to
1:25 call the roll
1:27 the members of the transportation
1:30 advisory board and when I say your name
1:32 unmute and say here and then go ahead
1:36 and mute yourself back again
1:39 Cynthia crass here Tom McDonald
1:50 I see you did you say here
1:55 mom can you hear me
1:58 there you go say stay here right now
2:02 it's not even say it's a hey here and
2:04 let's see if I can hear you I'm gonna
2:07 come back to Tom
2:10 I'm here 90 Milligan Kobe Sunday here so
2:16 yeah I took oil here Stephanie sale men
2:24 and Stephanie's here Emma groobie here
2:28 yeah and claw McDonald are you here
2:36 I'm doing how we can help Tom what do
2:38 you suggest even he's still working on
2:41 his audio right now he's here as best as
2:45 we can we'll catch him up can you hear
2:48 us Tom
2:50 um can you hear me
2:54 not yet I'll try to check in with them
2:57 later that sound okay
3:00 you
3:03 yep go ahead Niner okay the first item
3:08 on the agenda is the approval of the
3:12 minutes and the estate to January 27th
3:15 2020 everybody had a chance to read them
3:18 and do I have a motion to approve the
3:22 minutes of January 27 May 20 and do it
3:26 yourself and say so much you derive a
3:30 second second excellent I think that was
3:34 Cynthia and Emma yeah and I'll call the
3:39 roll and you can vote yay or nay along
3:42 with the motion of approving the minutes
3:44 of January 27 Cynthia crass yeah
3:48 MacDonald
3:51 he said he
3:52 sup yes saw that 9 ml again yes
3:56 ob Sunday
3:58 yeah yes Ouya - Goyal yes definitely yes
4:05 and Emma agrees yes that's unanimous
4:11 favor thank you very much
4:16 ready to move on to the next item which
4:18 is the audience comments public comments
4:23 I know we actually don't have anybody
4:27 called in for public comment but
4:29 Cynthia's noted that she she was like to
4:31 actually speak for public comment okay
4:36 yes and I'm I would also like to her
4:39 housekeeping remind everybody to
4:41 announce who you are your name and when
4:43 you begin to speak say your name this is
4:46 so-and-so this is not a Milligan and
4:48 blah blah blah and then say your thing
4:52 sounds good Cynthia I'll call on you now
4:54 and you have the floor okay
4:57 my name is Cynthia crass and I live in
4:59 downtown Issaquah I just want to say a
5:01 few words about what's been happening
5:04 lately the killing of George Floyd has
5:07 set off a response like we've never seen
5:08 before which white people are finally
5:11 beginning to reevaluate what it means to
5:13 be racist and what it means to be
5:15 anti-racist I'm late to the party and
5:18 new with this probably know less about
5:20 this than anybody but I think it's
5:23 important to think about this a little
5:24 bit we don't need to be intentionally
5:26 carrying out acts against individuals to
5:29 be perpetuating systemic racism much of
5:33 the guiding language in our MMP includes
5:35 aspirational comments about achieving
5:36 equity in general we need to examine our
5:39 work on transportation through the lens
5:41 of systemic racism and seek to
5:43 understand how our transportation system
5:45 contributes to it and to be more
5:47 explicit about racial inequity there's
5:50 much literature on the topic and I
5:52 suggest that we all try to get more
5:54 educated on this topic I don't have any
5:56 specific literature to recommend but I
5:58 found a well Joyce is just by searching
6:00 racism and transportation in a google
6:03 search there's a lot of material there
6:05 and I think like to really encourage us
6:08 to think deeply about that thank you
6:13 Cinthia
6:15 any other audience comments Stephen did
6:17 you give any other emails or messaging
6:23 therefore close public comments at 6:00
6:27 11:00 p.m.
6:29 if you're ready we'll go into the
6:31 regular agenda items for this evening
6:32 first of which is the election of the
6:34 chair and vice-chair and for the record
6:37 I'll read in to from the agenda packet
6:40 what it is we're doing as required by
6:43 the transportation Advisory boards rules
6:45 and regulations article 3 section 1
6:48 officers the tab is required to take
6:51 action on the chair and vice chair
6:53 positions each chair and vice chair will
6:55 serve a one-year term which ends on
6:58 April 30th of each year the board does
7:00 not have to has not set limits for
7:03 consecutive terms at the start of the
7:06 tab meeting I will solicit nominate
7:08 nominations that this section and
7:10 conduct an election for both offices due
7:15 to this year's unique circumstances
7:17 which were which required cancelling
7:20 multiple board meetings the city staff
7:23 had suggested that I 9ml again and
7:27 Cynthia crass continued to serve in the
7:29 seats that were in and we have both
7:31 spoken with the staff and said that we
7:33 would be willing to do that and at this
7:35 moment though I would call for a
7:38 nomination for chair and vice-chair
7:44 I I'd like to nominate Nina and Cynthia
7:49 her chair and course air vice chair
7:52 thank you sue yatta are there any other
7:56 nominations this evening
8:02 we have one nomination to vote on and
8:05 we'll consider that a slate
8:07 officer as 9 and Milligan as chair
8:09 Cynthia Crassus vice-chair so you can
8:12 vote for both at the same time and will
8:15 do as we had before I'll call the roll
8:17 and unmute yourself and then make your
8:20 vote game a or abstain
8:22 Cynthia crafts yay
8:25 Tom McDonald
8:30 did you do that time
8:32 okay thank you 90 Milligan yay
8:35 I'm sorry Tom voted in the affirmative
8:38 visually Coby Sunday
8:43 yay
8:45 you know see yata coil yay
8:49 groobie yay excellent that's that's it
8:54 that was unanimous I know will be your
8:57 chair since he'll be your vice chair for
9:00 the next year thank you everybody
9:03 think this will be fun Cynthia do you
9:05 have anything to say in that regard
9:08 no just that's it's always a task that's
9:12 a bit easier when you have really great
9:13 staff so thank you to Stephen I wouldn't
9:16 have volunteered to go around another
9:18 round if we didn't have such a capable
9:20 competent staff so thank you
9:23 and of course Nina as the chair is a lot
9:27 easier to be this chair Thanks
9:30 well I certainly second what you said
9:32 about working with Steven and staff you
9:35 make our lives much easier and that's a
9:38 lot of work and really appreciate it
9:41 hey with that I think we can move on to
9:43 the next agenda item
9:45 the mobility master plan schedule and
9:47 for that we have Steven to do a senior
9:49 transportation planner in the city of
9:51 Issaquah where is your Steven all right
9:55 thank you so I am going to move to
10:00 sharing my screen now so if you want to
10:04 go back to the full view I can stop for
10:07 discussion just let me know and then I
10:09 will stop sharing my screen so we can
10:12 kind of go to the floor group discussion
10:19 so for the first item I'm going to
10:20 quickly give an update on our the master
10:23 plan schedule
10:28 can everybody see my screen now
10:32 you
10:38 so really quick I'm gonna go through
10:39 what we've gone what we've done to
10:42 develop them the mobility master plan in
10:46 early 2019 we all work together and work
10:50 in tend conversations with community to
10:52 work in developing our guiding
10:55 principles in all of 2019 we the staff
11:00 project team worked with our consultant
11:02 to develop the planning context and
11:04 future needs reports want some of the
11:07 materials that you had reviewed before
11:08 tonight we also spent a lot of time in
11:11 2019 and then some of the time in early
11:14 2020 to talk about a lot of the major
11:16 policies and criteria the other
11:18 materials that you saw tonight and then
11:21 with the project needs we had some
11:25 discussions when we were talking about
11:26 the major policies and gaps in our
11:29 system that helped informed a lot of the
11:31 needs in terms of the type of policies
11:34 we're going to use to identify new
11:35 projects and then we also had some some
11:40 short discussions about outline needs
11:42 when it comes to what the mobility
11:43 master plan should look like we we did
11:46 talk about items that you were expecting
11:50 to see in the mobility master plan but
11:52 also stuff that you felt like you didn't
11:54 actually need to see
12:00 with everything going on we've had to
12:03 cancel a lot of meetings so we've
12:06 actually had to make a huge update to
12:08 our schedule and it all starts with
12:10 having our meeting tonight being able to
12:13 give you time to review a lot of the
12:15 materials before we move to a full
12:19 public release of a draft in early July
12:21 and then that would be helping prepare
12:24 us for a July 28th study session with
12:27 the City Council and then in late August
12:29 early September we're gonna be moving
12:31 for City Council adoption the reason why
12:34 there's two timeframes there is because
12:37 we're really trying to aim for late
12:39 August but if we receive a lot of
12:41 feedback behind making edits for the
12:43 mobility master plan will probably be
12:45 aiming for that early September time
12:49 the
12:50 for today what I'm hoping to do when
12:53 we're going through all the materials is
12:54 to briefly talk about all all the items
12:59 that we've talked about before and with
13:02 all the majority of the items that you
13:04 reviewed for tonight you actually have
13:07 had conversations about what went into
13:09 them this is just the latest reiteration
13:14 of what we had talked about with
13:19 we've also a few weeks ago formed a tab
13:22 ad hoc committee to help with going
13:25 through some of these materials because
13:26 we're not going to be able to go into
13:27 very fine detail of what the wording is
13:31 how things look and what I'm hoping to
13:33 do is that have all the tab members
13:36 speak tonight and give directions in
13:38 this ad hoc committee so I can work a
13:40 little bit closer with them and refine a
13:42 lot of the materials before we get to
13:44 the public release and also with after
13:47 the public release when we're just
13:48 continuing the development of the final
13:51 draft you will also get the opportunity
13:55 and early July to comment on the full
13:57 draft that gets released and you also
14:01 have the public comment period for the
14:02 July 28th study session when City
14:05 Council
14:05 although all the McCaul the feedback
14:07 that weren't collecting tonight and all
14:08 the food that were collecting from the
14:10 community in early July will go to the
14:12 City Council and in late July and then
14:15 right now I'm working on trying to
14:16 schedule a early August board meeting so
14:20 that we could come back together I can
14:23 share with you all the feedback that
14:24 we've collected or receive from the
14:26 committee around the mobility master
14:28 plan and we could give our board can
14:33 give their recommendation to the City
14:35 Council meaning for the adoption whether
14:38 in late August or early September
14:41 you
14:45 questions before I move on to the next
14:46 agenda item
14:54 you
14:57 not seeing any so ina
15:05 thank you sorry I had to step out for a
15:08 moment my internet crashed Thank You
15:10 Steven and seeing no questions my dad
15:13 cleared but I don't see anything since I
15:15 got back in we'll move on to the next
15:18 agenda item the review of the mobility
15:21 master plan policies and prioritization
15:23 criteria this is a discussion item so
15:27 after Steven gives us a presentation
15:29 we'll have an opportunity to discuss
15:31 these things I might mention here this
15:35 will be a fairly lengthy presentation
15:39 and you might want to ask a question
15:42 while Steven goes along I'll try to
15:44 follow the chat and I think Steven will
15:47 too
15:47 let's see if somebody needs to chime in
15:49 are the way through or do you want to
15:50 just take little breaks at certain
15:52 sections so actually what I'm going to
15:54 do because a lot of the these first
15:57 items we've seen before I'm just gonna
16:00 briefly describe what they are and then
16:02 I'm gonna open the floor for all the tab
16:04 members to ask any quickly refined
16:06 questions or provide comment there's no
16:08 actual presentation for this but I won't
16:10 I can go actually go through the
16:12 criteria if that helps
16:16 an overview and help since we haven't
16:18 met since January and it would help our
16:20 audience as well sure
16:24 so for the project valuation criteria
16:28 and I'll share my screen so I just bring
16:30 it up
16:32 the project
16:35 there is
16:40 so the criteria is one of the main items
16:43 that we have seen before we first saw
16:46 late last summer and then again in the
16:49 fall when when we were talking about
16:51 refining the policies but also trying to
16:55 figure out what our priorities are the
16:56 way the privatisation criteria will be
16:59 used is to score the project list so we
17:03 actually have a prioritized project list
17:05 in the draft plan itself but it also
17:08 helps us look at new projects that we
17:10 come up with the future to determine how
17:13 well it's meeting our guiding principles
17:19 instead of trying to go through word
17:21 word-for-word train edits I'm hoping
17:26 that the tab members can provide a lot
17:28 more feedback to the ad hoc committee in
17:31 direction if if something doesn't seem
17:33 right or something needs any type of
17:35 edits
17:37 Stephen missus 9a Milligan can you
17:40 remind us in this particular context
17:43 what are the steps towards approval and
17:45 that timeframe for us to get those that
17:47 feedback to the ad hoc committee or to
17:50 you
17:52 right now it's just providing feedback
17:54 tonight
17:59 so right now I'll open the fort for
18:02 everybody to talk about any of the items
18:04 that either stand out for questions or
18:06 comments it helps if you say in chat
18:10 that you have a comment or a question
18:11 because then I can call on you if you
18:14 haven't is there anyone who would wish
18:17 to speak and remember to introduce
18:19 yourself when you begin
18:26 I'm not seeing anyone Steven but I have
18:28 a couple questions sure
18:29 let me ask them they've inspired some
18:32 others in in the criteria of scoring
18:37 questions there's a discussion about
18:40 capacity on arterioles and I just wanted
18:43 to understand the definition is that you
18:47 get it you get points for increasing
18:49 capacity on arterioles you get four
18:51 points does arterioles include collector
18:54 arterioles
19:01 even I'm assuming this is Kendra
19:04 Breeland I'm with the consultant team
19:06 Dyna I don't actually have an answer to
19:10 that but I'd be happy to try to see if I
19:12 can get an answer to that
19:14 during the meeting or we will follow up
19:17 shortly it's a really good question do
19:20 you have a preference one way or the
19:22 other that might help us as well well
19:26 they are there seem to be quite
19:27 different roads and I would I would like
19:31 to know that in many cases without
19:36 looking at the map right now is in this
19:38 meeting it does not appear to me that
19:42 collector arterioles should have
19:43 increased capacity but I'm not I'm not
19:45 looking at the full inventory so I'm not
19:47 sure but that's kind of the way I was
19:48 leaving the reason for my question I'm
19:51 gonna look at it I suspect that we're
19:53 not using collector materials if it is
19:55 like true arterioles and above is what
19:58 we're looking at the capacity because
20:00 those are more those are the facilities
20:02 that really are people more regionally
20:05 estimations but we will pin to that and
20:08 either respond back during the meeting
20:10 or shortly thereafter
20:14 Kendra and I see that Coby has a
20:17 question would you like to have the
20:18 floor Coby are you ready
20:21 yes so my name is coby I was just
20:24 wondering this isn't a concern just a
20:26 general question I'm looking at the
20:28 criteria there's like 72 points and
20:35 um we're
20:37 singing injuries is only like is only 18
20:39 points so if there was a project that
20:41 might not be the most efficient but
20:43 would reduce injuries dramatically do
20:45 you think there's enough point
20:47 allocation towards those projects to get
20:49 them evaluated a high enough level to
20:52 actually get the project's done
20:58 you
21:01 I need a mute yes when we've had the
21:05 discussions about how to best balance
21:07 the points for the criteria we did
21:10 actually increase the the scoring to
21:13 where it is now because originally we
21:16 were trying to have it balanced with the
21:17 next criteria down but we added more
21:19 points because we we understood that
21:21 safety was a little bit higher priority
21:23 if the board would like to look at
21:26 increasing now we can take a look at
21:29 that and to rebalance the scoring
21:36 nobody does that answer your question
21:39 thank you
21:41 and yes are there any other questions I
21:44 don't see anyone in the chat but is
21:46 there anyone just
21:50 nope I don't see anyone I want to thank
21:53 you Kobe for that question because that
21:54 relates to another question that I had
21:57 had Stephen and I had talked about how
21:59 do we score when you haven't had an
22:01 accident yet you know you would over the
22:06 course of time because it's a recognized
22:09 unsafe situation and so he's working on
22:13 adding to the scoring an opportunity for
22:16 recognition of public outcry or public
22:22 comments about the safety of a have a
22:25 intersection or of a place
22:28 I have one more comment for the board
22:30 and I'm gonna do this myself and just
22:33 didn't have enough time to really fully
22:34 do this but while I was looking at this
22:37 chart what I thought would be helpful to
22:38 me and I'm just gonna say it out loud in
22:40 case it's helpful to others is that
22:41 we've got our principals on one side and
22:43 then you go through the chart and you go
22:44 down the path to how many points do you
22:46 get for that and I think if I looked
22:50 back so the principal and see if those
22:53 points correspond with the principal and
22:57 that will give you a good filter to see
23:02 whether the scoring which is the the
23:04 ultimate product satisfies a principal
23:09 that we're trying to achieve continue to
23:14 look at those and soon Stephen your
23:15 feedback after the meeting so that he
23:18 can finish that up
23:20 Stephen then are we ready to move on to
23:22 the next part of this section of the
23:26 agenda so now I can jump into the
23:31 policies yeah
23:37 so for the policies very similar to the
23:39 criteria we looked at them almost
23:41 parallel with the whole development of
23:44 this entire plan we and I'll just show
23:48 the front page of the memo
23:58 following the development of the guiding
24:00 principles we jumped into policy
24:03 development we initially started with
24:06 modal policies to talk about how we want
24:09 to approach different modes of travel or
24:11 different options travel of getting
24:13 around the city and then we moved into
24:15 more overarching policies a lot of what
24:19 you read in the memo while you remember
24:21 from our meetings which we've had we had
24:23 three meetings talking about the
24:25 policies late last summer late last fall
24:28 and then earlier this year we kind of
24:30 had a follow-up discussion on the
24:32 policies that are going master plan the
24:35 overarching policies though a little bit
24:37 different than the modal policies where
24:39 it's not just one particular mode of
24:42 travel that we're looking at and
24:44 particularly with safety and vision zero
24:46 it it really looks at all the different
24:49 modes of how people get around in pirate
24:51 and we're really looking at how to
24:53 prioritize safety under that overarching
24:55 policy and then additionally we also
24:59 talked about policies on climate change
25:01 and health and equity that unfortunately
25:04 we didn't have ready for this meeting
25:05 book they will that language will be
25:08 available in in the draft and to talk
25:10 about how that relates to transportation
25:12 even further so
25:17 just like the criteria I'm just doing
25:19 the brief review of what we've done and
25:23 a lot of the things that we talked about
25:26 I'm hoping that we can if there are
25:28 questions or comments we can point it to
25:31 the ad hoc committee to look at things a
25:33 little bit further
25:37 nine effect to you okay Thank You Steven
25:40 Oh so again I'm going to look for
25:43 questions or comments on the board on
25:46 this section the policies memo which
25:50 included not only safety but different
25:55 modes biped all those things and I have
25:59 a few questions but I'm looking for
26:00 someone to say in the chat that they
26:03 have a question or a comment
26:09 well until I see one I'll jump in and
26:12 ask a question Stephen on the safety
26:16 section we were just talking about how
26:19 in the criteria the criteria have
26:21 something for it identifying a an
26:24 intersection or a facility that is
26:26 unsafe and so in here that sort of
26:31 language would also have to be in this
26:33 policy too right when we make changes
26:36 they have to go back up to this
26:38 narrative
26:41 yes
26:45 waiting for somebody else to have a
26:47 question I have a few if you don't
26:51 I'm gonna go into pedestrian mode and
26:54 ask for you to remind me under was this
27:00 tr7
27:01 what what cheer it was chair - how did
27:05 we come to the standard of a
27:08 quarter-mile of sidewalks to a
27:13 destination
27:15 the quarter mile is a standard of
27:18 measurement for determining what's
27:20 actually walkable but when there's been
27:24 studies around how far people are
27:26 actually comfortable walking for a mile
27:27 is actually the distance that is used
27:34 basically around the country it's part
27:35 of the knack dough recommended or
27:37 federal recommendations related to what
27:39 we want to be welcome
27:43 yeah great Thank You Steven so you got
27:45 to have a question you have to introduce
27:47 yourself and you know the floor hi I'm
27:49 Sujata Goyal
27:51 so I actually also had a question about
27:53 the pedestrian edit and it could be that
27:56 I may be mixing things up but so in this
27:59 one it talks about so in our policy Tier
28:03 one streets have destroyed facilities on
28:06 both sides and then same with tier two
28:10 and I can't remember
28:12 so Newport you know near where Bellevue
28:17 is that part of Newport is that
28:19 considered Tier one like what size of a
28:23 street is that I'm curious and there's a
28:26 reason I'm asking something curious I
28:28 can't remember but I remember so right
28:31 now the way it's supposed to be built we
28:33 were going to put sidewalks on both
28:35 sides of the street and then at one of
28:38 our public comment periods one of the
28:40 RET you know a resident came and said if
28:43 you try to put sidewalks on both sides
28:45 of the street we're gonna create
28:46 significant environmental impact and can
28:50 we do sidewalks on one side and a
28:53 natural trail on the other and you know
28:56 I so we you know looking at the
29:00 conditions on the ground
29:01 we felt it made sense to require the
29:06 sidewalks on one side of the street and
29:10 not put them on the other side and I
29:13 guess what we're I'm getting to with
29:16 this is in these policies you know and
29:21 you know people love it or hate it do we
29:24 have and they are policies but as staff
29:27 you're gonna look at these and you're
29:29 gonna say okay in this situation I'm
29:31 supposed to do X Y do I have that
29:33 capacity so I guess the question is
29:36 right now at the level at which these
29:38 policies are being written they provide
29:42 some guidance but they still are
29:45 I mean they're they're still pretty bad
29:47 there's still you know kind of maybe
29:50 5,000 7,000 square-foot level and I'm
29:52 just wondering do they provide you all
29:54 enough guidance that if a resident came
29:58 to you a staff level who's trying to
30:00 determine the design just say hey this
30:03 is the scenario would you feel that you
30:05 have enough guidance to move away from
30:10 something that these policies are saying
30:12 based on the conditions on the ground
30:14 and if not is there a is there aspect
30:19 you know is there an additional tool you
30:20 need is there some sort of
30:22 decision-making framework you need for
30:24 things that don't fit in the box nicely
30:27 that we want to add to the policies to
30:30 allow for transparent and flexible
30:34 decision-making inside the organization
30:37 to be able to implement these
30:42 that was a really long question I
30:43 apologize
30:47 be given it's yours to answer Thank You
30:50 Sujata okay it sounds like there's two
30:53 parts to your question the first beam do
30:56 we have what we need to answer the
30:58 question particularly then we'll use
31:00 Newport as an example but the answer is
31:02 yes and if a new resident were to come
31:05 to us and ask us is it going to be one
31:08 facility or what type of facility or is
31:10 it - two facilities in what type the
31:13 answer is it's gonna be one type of
31:14 facility for that major arterial outside
31:17 of the central his qua area the type of
31:21 facility will be based on the context on
31:25 the ground so four areas of Newport
31:27 where you have a little more density of
31:30 neighborhood being developed we're
31:32 probably going to be looking at a wider
31:33 facility like accommodate that type of
31:36 pedestrian volume if it's a little more
31:39 spread out where you have one driveway
31:42 going up the hill and all the residences
31:46 are up the hill and not necessarily
31:47 directly on Newport it's probably not
31:50 going to be as wide of a facility
31:51 because if the demand really isn't there
31:55 almost the communities is asking for it
31:58 now Newport is kind of unique because we
32:01 also have connections trail system we
32:03 have the mountain town Greenway Trail so
32:08 the facility is going to be reflecting
32:10 that - so actually on once that really
32:13 could be 10 12 foot wide walkway of some
32:17 kind we're multi-purpose trail to be
32:21 able to provide that now whether or not
32:23 we have enough and then the other part
32:25 of your question was do we have enough
32:26 tools to make changes or be a little
32:28 more transparent my answer is yes but
32:32 I'll ask Kendra to chip in on because
32:36 we've talked about a lot of different
32:37 policy other direction we can go with
32:39 the posts at least the language that we
32:40 have so I appreciate that question can
32:43 you guys hear me thank you sure okay
32:46 cool made me feel I'm almost like just
32:51 left my mic on they don't like the
32:53 beeping every time I come off I feel
32:55 like that's distracting for you all the
32:59 I think
33:00 you know Steven you know I appreciate
33:02 you we're developing policy citywide so
33:05 that makes it tricky and I think Sujata
33:08 I think you're you bring up a good point
33:10 that there are different local contexts
33:12 that exist within the city that do
33:15 necessitate different types of
33:16 treatments something that I think would
33:19 be an enhancement that we could make to
33:20 the policy framework based on the input
33:22 or receiving tonight would be to write
33:25 in kind of just some some more
33:27 discretionary language so then this is
33:29 the general intent however you know the
33:33 staff do have the discretion to modify
33:37 you know in certain cases where more
33:39 warranted that you can provide an
33:41 equivalent facility I think you're
33:42 providing a great example where we might
33:44 have a policy that suggests something on
33:47 both sides of the street but maybe you
33:48 can provide something that's much more
33:49 gracious on one side of the street in
33:51 some locations so we have worked with
33:56 cities to develop that sort of more it's
33:59 a flexible language and I think this is
34:01 warranted in that case and I would
34:03 actually point to the vehicular policies
34:05 we've already developed kind of that
34:07 level of flexibility so I think we could
34:09 enhance the pedestrian facilities to
34:11 provide similar levels of flexibility so
34:13 I appreciate that input that's something
34:15 is we're moving see that I'm sure showed
34:17 you we've got a very aggressive schedule
34:20 which we're excited about so I'm excited
34:23 about getting to an M&P with you guys
34:24 but these are kind of some of the touch
34:26 points that was really missed over these
34:28 last several months or what happens yeah
34:31 and I think you know ultimately like
34:33 when all of this is adopted we just want
34:35 to ensure that all of these
34:38 conversations etc provided the tools
34:41 that staff would need as they're sort of
34:44 going through the you know the slog of
34:46 designing and implementing projects that
34:49 when there is that gray area or that
34:52 variation they have the documentation
34:55 and the tools so if there is flexibility
34:58 like in our auto policy if there are
35:00 places where their flexibility is is
35:02 necessary being clear about what kind of
35:04 criteria we would you know like if it's
35:06 significant environmental impact or
35:08 super sloppy or cost for a little bit of
35:11 or you know whatever it may be that
35:13 we can provide that guidance and the
35:16 very you know and the circumstances
35:18 under which those variations could apply
35:24 excellent thank you sir Jetta and think
35:27 you can turn on Steven I'm not seeing
35:29 anyone else chime in in the chat window
35:32 you can say question or comment over
35:35 there and I'll call on you I have just a
35:38 couple more questions I'll ask well I
35:39 give people an opportunity to get their
35:43 courage up this Steven aura Kendra the
35:46 question has to do with when we have
35:48 facilities in the policy for having
35:51 sidewalks on one side in the case of
35:54 Newport that's unique because it's an
35:56 open space on the other side but in some
35:59 cases there's a sidewalk on one side and
36:02 there are homes or streets or you know
36:04 other facilities on both sides it just
36:08 doesn't have the it doesn't qualify for
36:10 sidewalks on both sides if you only have
36:13 sidewalks on one side how do you handle
36:16 safely crossing and as there are
36:18 corresponding crossings policy for that
36:24 even your muted yep
36:29 thank you for bringing that matter
36:30 because it's important to highlight that
36:32 we have actually had those conversations
36:34 of updating the city's cross crossing
36:37 guidelines and all our crossing policies
36:40 and so that is updating that was with
36:45 the intent to kind of go with these
36:47 pedestrian way policy updates as well so
36:51 when you have sidewalk on one side in
36:54 the Unity crossing the looking at the
36:57 context of you know the road type what
37:00 the with the line the visuals are with -
37:03 I how far can you see is there
37:06 streetlights like that all is taken to
37:09 account of the type of crossing or
37:11 crossing enhancements that are going to
37:12 be me be able to allow people to cross
37:15 that road comfortably
37:23 thank you even looking for more our
37:26 people have questions I have a bunch of
37:27 questions and some of them are just
37:29 kinda technical about whether they
37:30 there's an error and a map or something
37:33 like that those kind of housekeeping
37:34 things I'll just keep for later but I
37:37 would ask about the let me ask about the
37:43 bicycle facility man to see if I inspire
37:45 something out of one of my colleagues
37:47 like so we can't hear you can we but one
37:52 of my questions is
37:55 exemplified in the bike nap that the
37:57 Issaquah fell city road going eastbound
38:01 east like some young boulevard is
38:04 considered a bike route
38:08 I would never ride my bike on that and
38:10 so it's red of course because it's got a
38:12 low level of safety right but how would
38:18 you ever and why would you ever when
38:20 there are alternatives even upgrade that
38:23 road to have a low low I'm you know high
38:25 level of safety feeling me again with
38:28 that metric goes
38:31 of traffic stress is the term and I know
38:36 you're very correct it is an extremely
38:39 high stress facility I think what we
38:43 struggled with as a team is identifying
38:46 all parallel alternatives so the walk
38:50 and roll plan was actually I think the
38:52 plan that identified that as a priority
38:55 corridor I agree with you that the cost
38:59 is a city to develop that into something
39:02 that's welcoming for really any
39:05 population is pretty astronomical so I
39:10 don't think we have any easy answers on
39:12 that and that's why we've identified it
39:13 as a very high stress facility within
39:16 and and quite candidly that's why we
39:21 don't have super aggressive measures to
39:24 fix it because we haven't heard that as
39:26 a priority
39:34 Thank You Kendra yeah and Tom
39:37 I don't think we're able to hear you do
39:39 you want to try to say something
39:41 hi this is Tina city clerk Steven can
39:45 you unmute the call in number for Tom I
39:49 think you are overriding him there we go
39:53 okay Tom your phone line jimena yes we
39:59 can perfect okay that's why I'm Ben elf
40:02 okay I'm going to ask one more favor I'm
40:05 going to ask Steven can you mute the
40:08 video screen for Tom so that we don't
40:11 have any shows so I connected without
40:15 audio when I came back in Oh perfect
40:17 Suzy oh you should be turned off on the
40:19 computer great we'll let you manage your
40:22 volume and Mike on the phone line and
40:26 Stephen go refrain from using that so
40:29 that we don't double mute you thank you
40:32 now yes and I'll be myself fun but I'm
40:35 not talking perfect thank you
40:38 and tom did you have anything that you
40:40 were just dying to say that you haven't
40:42 had a chance yet
40:43 yeah I'll just delete the typing and
40:46 we're talking about Newport Road
40:52 and I agree with you the dangerous road
40:54 I usually write on the inside of the
40:55 curb line going up so I kind of feel
40:58 that a it's a great location to have a
41:01 cycle track from 900 all the way up to a
41:05 lake Montebello Bard put it all on one
41:07 side
41:14 thank you Tom I don't see anyone else
41:18 unless Cynthia shake your head did you
41:20 want to say anything you just agreeing
41:21 no I had put some things in the chat are
41:24 they not coming up no I'm just wondering
41:27 if you would like to state your comment
41:29 please oh okay
41:32 so this is Cynthia and I had a comment
41:36 about level of traffic stress but before
41:39 I give that comment I just want to say
41:41 that it is a little bit challenging
41:43 because we have a lot of documents and
41:45 we have a lot of overlapping content and
41:47 the video call makes it hard to toggle
41:50 between the different documents so it's
41:53 hard to know exactly when to make what
41:55 comment so I'll just throw this out
41:58 there and I don't know which memo it
42:00 belongs which thing it belongs in but I
42:03 did have some notes when I reviewed the
42:05 materials forgotten which document it
42:07 was the level of traffic stress
42:09 regarding so that map I'm gonna look at
42:13 it now so my comments about that were I
42:17 don't think anything is steep so I see
42:21 Park Drive so I'm not sure if this is
42:23 the right time for this but when I did
42:25 study that map and I do write all these
42:27 streets and I don't think anything as
42:28 steep as Park Drive should ever be green
42:33 I mean I ride a lot and that's a scary
42:38 are you referring to sentence we can
42:41 look at the same one Clark Park Drive
42:43 coming down from Highland you know when
42:46 you're coming good the pictures a figure
42:49 three a level of traffic stress on bike
42:51 priority corridors it's so there were I
42:57 had a couple comments about this the
42:59 rating the LTS rating or whatever the
43:01 the the actual quantifiable number so I
43:05 don't feel like anything that steep
43:08 should ever be anything less than a
43:13 three
43:14 and then I think some of them that are
43:16 threes are actually bores or just like
43:21 they're just terrible places to ride and
43:23 one of them is State Route nine hundred
43:26 and another one is the sunset
43:28 interchange which is one of my big pet
43:32 peeves because it connects to a lot of
43:34 green and that is the intersection when
43:37 you are at sunset and you have to cross
43:39 over a Nike it's treacherous and I see a
43:44 little tiny red dot there between the
43:47 green and yeah around the highway there
43:51 but anyway there
43:52 that's a terrible so I'm just wondering
43:56 if just like we have like level of
43:59 service basically failure it feels like
44:03 we should acknowledge some places where
44:05 it's just never going to be a great
44:07 place to ride
44:10 like maybe it's a koala fall city road
44:13 but some of these other ones anyway so I
44:14 had some those were my specific comments
44:17 on the level of traffic stress is that
44:21 clear enough I agree with the 900 I was
44:25 looking for the sunset one that you were
44:28 referring to
44:30 so as you travel westbound on sunset and
44:34 you make your way across I 90 at that
44:39 ring you pick up the trail there the sea
44:45 can see if you can you zoom into that
44:47 area
44:49 you won't be able to see what the
44:52 problem is
44:53 it's basically area it's a it's a design
44:59 on both sides of a 90s you're trying to
45:06 and I noticed there's a little red dot
45:08 or a little red extended dot and that is
45:12 I'm not sure what that refers to but
45:15 that whole thing is quite treacherous so
45:18 I'm not sure if the intent to that it's
45:19 for everybody to go underneath I 90 or
45:22 underneath the chamber and take the
45:25 trail all of it to the top and that
45:26 would be the main by corridor going up
45:28 to the top and I'm telling you that
45:30 Raylan not on the street
45:31 I'm telling you can you can't the trail
45:33 doesn't go all the way you cross on it
45:35 on the surface that goes over i-90 and
45:40 it's so it's sort of partially captured
45:44 with a little bit red but that whole
45:45 thing is pretty red yeah the trail
45:49 essentially ends at the crosswalk over
45:51 the i-90 off-ramp in the crosswalk dumps
45:57 you right into a blind intersection
45:59 where people are coming off i-90 if
46:01 they're heading up to the Sammamish
46:02 plateau they're making a channel turn
46:04 going right and there's a bunch of
46:07 bushes and every single time I cross
46:10 that I am terrified okay I'm not sure if
46:14 that's what that little red thing is but
46:15 on both sides of it it's it's terrible
46:19 and that's when I think that should be
46:21 fixed but then nine I made a point like
46:24 why would you descend this cool Fall
46:26 City Road where there's so many other
46:27 options and so there may be ones that we
46:30 just decided not to it doesn't make
46:35 sense to invest there but
46:37 any rate the main point I wanted to make
46:39 was I don't think that anything that has
46:41 a steep grade should be wonderful you
46:43 and then I think that nine hundred
46:47 should be four and maybe the set section
46:53 I don't know anyway
46:56 okay so I'll get together with Farrah
46:59 piers that look a little bit closer to
47:00 make sure that the grades are being
47:03 reflected on
47:05 and I think the only other point that I
47:07 would add to that Stephen and I think
47:09 this been made although it wasn't
47:10 stressed as much it's just interchange
47:12 is in general are just really scary
47:14 places to bite so I do want to stress at
47:17 the level of traffic stress is a bad way
47:21 of saying that but anyways that
47:22 methodology it uses certain variables on
47:27 the whole for segments it does pretty
47:29 good job helping you to get a good sense
47:32 of you know how does it feel from a
47:34 bicycle standpoint again unfortunately
47:37 we can't bike every single street in
47:39 Issaquah and give it a unique score
47:42 based on that though that would be best
47:44 practice but again that's not you know
47:46 within our scope of work
47:47 however what I would say is you know I
47:51 think for interchanges there's a lot of
47:53 other stressful factors that aren't
47:55 being captured in the methodology and I
47:58 think it would be good to recognize and
48:01 your point on grade as well take it I
48:04 believe we put some some consideration
48:07 into grades but we'll look into that
48:09 must even a little more closely okay one
48:13 last comment and that's um I think that
48:16 one thing that's not reflected on the
48:17 Newport way is it has really good
48:18 line-of-sight
48:19 it's not a terrible place to ride a bike
48:21 because of the long stretch of
48:24 straightaway it's got very good
48:25 line-of-sight I don't have any problem
48:26 riding I would call it a more of a three
48:28 or four Cynthia thank you did that
48:35 capture the question you put in the
48:38 queue that I messed up earlier in the
48:40 thank you agree the long stretch from
48:46 pretty much sunset all the way down that
48:50 portion okay
48:52 I'd agree I have a question for
48:55 everybody and that is that it seems that
48:58 the LTS chart is based on the walk and
49:01 roll priority bike corridors and one of
49:04 the things that were I'm hearing myself
49:06 and some others say is that we're
49:08 questioning he where a doors that were
49:13 outlined in the walk and roll plan what
49:16 would you do if you you know
49:19 basing this on an earlier policy but if
49:21 the earlier policy is faulty like the
49:23 elsevier out what it was he then
49:26 even you want try to answer that
49:33 I would say well then we go to update
49:36 the rock and roll band well we should
49:38 take another look at all the corridors
49:41 but that wasn't for hauling the Walker
49:45 roll that wasn't a part of this the
49:47 scope of this project this was primarily
49:49 looking at all the priorities in the
49:51 policy so that is something that we can
49:53 take a look at ultimately because the
49:55 Walker role plan was done several years
49:57 ago I mean it's gonna need another look
49:59 following the adoption of the mobility
50:01 master plan
50:06 all right thank you I don't any further
50:08 sorry this is Tom when you say take
50:11 another look does that mean looking at
50:12 all the connections or type of
50:14 connections
50:16 yes
50:20 you
50:22 hey anybody else any further questions
50:24 Tom do you have any more
50:29 no I do not Stephen I think we might be
50:33 able to move from this item if you want
50:37 to summarize a little bit before you go
50:39 into the next item the next item is the
50:43 mill building master plan outline when
50:46 I'm in context and future needs
50:47 assessment Cynthia has one last question
50:51 actually oh there you go
50:54 had my head down readin it's her to
50:57 monitor chat and renovating together at
50:59 the same time um so again honestly I
51:02 don't know where to put this well
51:04 there's a lot of different documents and
51:05 I'm just gonna lay it out there and
51:09 that's I can tie it to some of the
51:12 specific documents um I made some notes
51:16 when I was reading them but there's
51:18 really kind of an overall thing that
51:20 touches a few different things it's in
51:21 the policy memo about transportation and
51:23 about parking and I want to know if and
51:28 again I think we've seen a lot of these
51:30 materials this may be a new thought and
51:32 I've missed it in the past again
51:35 it's hard to keep track but what I want
51:37 to know is for transit that's outside
51:42 Sound Transit do we have any influence
51:45 over the Park & Ride facilities that
51:49 would be around those because I think we
51:55 really want to examine the
52:00 there's several it touches several
52:01 things including equity about investing
52:04 in parking structures around transit
52:07 there's a lot of I just remember in
52:09 planning school a lot of literature
52:11 around what happens to big transit areas
52:17 when there's park and rides for example
52:20 versus other kinds of development around
52:22 and I think that if we're serious about
52:25 equity and we're serious about you know
52:29 climate change and carbon emissions and
52:32 all those things and we should seriously
52:33 take a look at whether we want Park and
52:36 Ride facilities at new light rail I'm
52:40 not sure where to hitch consider what
52:42 different hooks to put this comment in
52:45 but I think that it's a habit and the
52:50 demand is here now to be able to ditch
52:53 your car at a parking right so you can
52:55 drive to your job or you can take
52:56 transit during peak hours to your job in
52:59 Seattle which is great and it's a great
53:02 place to start for a region but if you
53:04 think 10 20 30 years I just think that's
53:08 that's investing in an old way of
53:11 thinking about transportation and
53:13 thinking about communities and I don't
53:16 know exactly where to lodge this comment
53:20 but I noticed that some comments in the
53:22 policy memo and there was
53:24 I don't know I wrote it to page 23 and I
53:27 don't remember what document so it kind
53:30 of touches a few of these documents that
53:31 we've been presented with so sorry this
53:35 is Sujata so Cynthia are you talking
53:37 about things like instead of doing just
53:39 you know massive Perkin rides at these
53:41 transit centers are you talking about
53:43 like transit oriented development and
53:45 that kind of stuff is that cuz I like it
53:48 if you you know I would have don't
53:51 right what else
53:54 but transit was it's gonna turn into a
53:56 parking right here a place to ditch your
53:58 car so I'm I'm not directly promoting
54:01 transit oriented development but I
54:03 suppose by challenging the concept of
54:06 massive parking rides I don't know of
54:09 other things that are done with transit
54:12 stop the land-use around transit stops
54:14 so I think it's an indirect way of
54:16 saying transit oriented development but
54:21 you know we in the suburbs have this
54:22 habit of building these monstrous
54:24 facilities and they're expensive they're
54:26 free the demand seat
54:32 it's the supply I'm sorry and and and
54:35 they're most likely some of the most you
54:39 know these are people who are employed
54:41 they go to work every single day so they
54:42 have a job and they are probably more
54:45 likely to be they probably index high at
54:48 higher income levels than general
54:50 transit users so we give them this thing
54:52 for free and it costs a fortune and the
54:57 supply is not cannot keep up with demand
55:00 it's just all broken to me and becoming
55:04 a destination location for a
55:06 park-and-ride for everybody coming in
55:08 disqualify own into parking right as a
55:10 destination point they catch some sort
55:12 of transit you'd like to see I'm just
55:16 disappointed question is how to get
55:18 people there to get the transit without
55:19 having have their car to get there in a
55:22 way yes and there's a lot of information
55:27 about what happens you know ten and
55:29 twenty years after big transit stop has
55:33 big park and ride versus some other
55:35 kinds of like just more like what you
55:38 and Sujata are talking about and that's
55:40 what I want to make sure that we're
55:42 thinking about I don't know if we even
55:43 have that I mean is that is that even in
55:46 this in our scope with with regard to I
55:50 was looking at some of the principles
55:51 about preparing for you know for light
55:54 rail and that sort of thing I mean is
55:56 this
55:58 so I guess I'm just wondering if there's
56:01 even a place for this kind I mean
56:03 there's two questions one is what does
56:05 everyone else think and the other is is
56:06 there even a place within the scope of
56:08 what we're trying to accomplish to
56:10 insert this kind of thinking
56:13 you
56:17 I mean I would definitely agree it said
56:20 what you're saying about the idea
56:23 everybody having to get in their car to
56:25 get to the transit to get on a bus to
56:28 get to downtown well that seems like a
56:30 very odd combination of things and as
56:35 you know I think as light rail comes we
56:40 do as a city I would say and I think
56:44 within our transportation plan you know
56:46 if we know where that facility or those
56:48 facilities are gonna go it would make
56:51 sense for us to identify you know
56:55 knowing that this is you know 20 years
56:57 in the future or whatever identify
57:00 accessible routes of you know like safe
57:04 bike routes or safe walking routes I
57:08 think when we had that meeting with all
57:10 those other boards I remember I thought
57:14 they were saying something the the
57:18 growth management people I can't
57:20 remember the time for it but I think
57:24 they had mentioned something about
57:26 zoning and zone code and density
57:29 associated with these with this new
57:34 Transit Center coming online but I think
57:37 you know it for us and our purview just
57:39 ensuring that the policies we write
57:42 really you know the idea that we want a
57:44 more mobile more bicycle mobility safe
57:48 mobility inside our downtown core we
57:50 wanted to look like this that's where
57:52 the density is going blah blah blah I
57:54 think just by creating that kind of
57:57 network in our downtown core we're sort
58:00 of going to be hopefully de-facto
58:02 creating those opportunities once
58:04 transit does come I think part of the
58:07 bummers I think we only have really four
58:09 transit routes it's just circulate your
58:11 downtown where if you had a parking
58:13 structure downtown if you didn't have a
58:15 parking structure you'd have to have a
58:16 wagon wheel spoke of bus network
58:18 bringing people to that area which we
58:21 don't have that might be the
58:23 forward-looking thing as far as having
58:25 how do you address that people get into
58:27 example the transportation via bus or
58:30 another way
58:30 they don't have to drive their car
58:37 yeah and this is sorry and maybe this is
58:41 where that policy of the future
58:43 technology stuff comes in just I know it
58:46 you know king county parks we're doing
58:48 the trailhead direct so we're getting
58:50 these little shuttles that take people
58:53 from instead of building massive parking
58:55 lots at our natural areas we have these
58:58 little shuttles that will you know come
59:00 every 15 or 20 minutes and they pick you
59:02 up at a park and ride and then they take
59:05 you to the various natural areas on the
59:07 weekends and we've created routes and
59:09 it's significantly increased transit use
59:12 and access to record or giuse really
59:16 green spaces in the in the mountains to
59:19 sound Greenway so maybe those are the
59:21 kind of technologies or opportunities
59:24 that you know as that Transit Center is
59:26 coming online we have you know like real
59:30 shuttle or whatever go through these
59:32 little through our communities or we
59:34 order one on our phone or whatever and
59:37 it starts to reduce some of that need
59:39 for everybody to own you know three cars
59:42 and a house of two people and blah blah
59:43 blah so
59:48 so I I was actually gonna Cynthia thank
59:52 you for bringing this up because I was
59:53 actually gonna bring some of this up
59:55 better when we were going to talk about
59:57 the planning context report with the
1:00:01 current pandemic some of the major
1:00:04 things that have really been highlighted
1:00:06 in all this is that we can certainly
1:00:09 change how people get around or at least
1:00:12 how they access you know bundles of
1:00:15 information or or have conversations and
1:00:18 still get be productive as part of our
1:00:21 economy as part of our system and I
1:00:24 think Kendra and I could probably take
1:00:25 up an entire two hours just talking
1:00:27 about this if we you know we were
1:00:30 allowed to so I will bring this up back
1:00:35 again when we're talking about the
1:00:36 planning context report because I think
1:00:37 it's important to think about how this
1:00:43 current pandemic is really changing how
1:00:44 people are getting around we're not
1:00:46 getting around and still being able to
1:00:49 be productive and still be part of the
1:00:51 work force and still work virtually
1:00:56 the answer to your question and I think
1:00:59 it was a question not so much comment is
1:01:01 there are a lot of tools that we can use
1:01:04 so to reduce the need for people to meet
1:01:08 to drive their car to access transit
1:01:09 facilities and so Jonah touched a little
1:01:12 bit on with the trailhead to neck there
1:01:15 is advancement in technology so you can
1:01:17 develop different types of options for
1:01:19 people to get from either single-family
1:01:21 housing or multi-family housing to the
1:01:23 transit facilities you have now but you
1:01:26 can also expand on the type of transit
1:01:29 this transit system you have beyond just
1:01:32 the standard metro bus routes that you
1:01:35 see going and you know a couple blocks
1:01:38 away from your house
1:01:39 Metro can partner with different types
1:01:42 of third-party vendors that provide you
1:01:46 know scooters or bike share or even with
1:01:49 uber and lifts now we're moving into
1:01:55 more much more of a virtual world
1:01:58 how much of a need is is there for that
1:02:00 and how much which direction do we we go
1:02:03 our land use hasn't changed so their
1:02:05 needs are still there but the demand is
1:02:08 definitely changing especially as we see
1:02:11 how employers are responding to the
1:02:13 recent pension now I'm a I'm gonna stop
1:02:16 myself there in case anybody else had a
1:02:18 comment but I just wanted to quickly
1:02:19 respond to your question before I I
1:02:22 forgot what the question was
1:02:27 I do questions go ahead Cynthia I was
1:02:31 gonna say there is a specific question
1:02:33 buried in there and that's the next
1:02:35 major opportunity to impact the
1:02:42 existence of massive park and rides
1:02:44 it's suburban transit locations is light
1:02:47 rail do we as part of this process have
1:02:52 any input into or does the city of
1:02:55 Issaquah in general have input as to
1:02:57 whether that stop will be accompanied by
1:03:00 a massive park and ride like East Gate
1:03:02 or does the city of Asaph want get to
1:03:05 decide and does this transportation plan
1:03:07 have any input as to on that particular
1:03:10 that seems like a big trigger to me like
1:03:12 that it's so far in advance that now's
1:03:14 the time to be having that conversation
1:03:16 but I don't have any idea where that
1:03:18 decision gets made
1:03:22 pre-pandemic
1:03:24 the natural process for how this would
1:03:28 be is yes we would have a say on where
1:03:32 facilities go what throughout my be but
1:03:34 the sound Transit board and staff are
1:03:37 the ones that make the final decision on
1:03:40 where the routing is where the final
1:03:42 stations are as a community partner for
1:03:46 this route we have a very strong
1:03:48 influence on where station should go and
1:03:51 how access should be developed as part
1:03:53 of that system and whether it's
1:03:55 accompanied by a gigantic parking right
1:03:57 or not okay
1:04:01 Stephen I don't want to chime in too
1:04:04 much here but as part of the the MMP
1:04:08 you'll notice our transit policies
1:04:10 they're not super extensive at this
1:04:13 point Cynthia I think you're asking some
1:04:14 really really good questions one of the
1:04:17 when you know Stephen and I were scoping
1:04:19 this project we're talking about it is
1:04:21 that transit is obviously a really
1:04:24 important topic that could be addressed
1:04:27 in much more detail than its within this
1:04:29 scope and so I think you know something
1:04:32 that Stephen has previously mentioned
1:04:34 that you know he's thinking about is
1:04:36 more of a transit implementation plan
1:04:39 that's specific to transit
1:04:40 accommodations within his squad how
1:04:42 AIESEC la is a sound host of transit
1:04:46 which includes variety of just to
1:04:48 respond to your comment on you know
1:04:50 massive parking garage or local
1:04:53 connections to transit be it bicycle and
1:04:57 pedestrian Tod you is a sound idea
1:05:00 different first last mile connections
1:05:03 we've worked with some cities that have
1:05:05 actually asked the question do we want
1:05:06 to build a big parking garage would it
1:05:09 be cheaper just to give everyone
1:05:10 vouchers to be able to use TNCs
1:05:13 taxes and how long you know how many
1:05:16 rides with that that actually fund
1:05:19 before building another parking space
1:05:20 and suspense killer here is the answer
1:05:23 is a lot so I think there's a lot of
1:05:26 choices there we don't have the answers
1:05:28 we haven't dealt that deeply yet I think
1:05:31 that's something that in the coming
1:05:33 years you know probably I'm not going to
1:05:37 I'm not going to speculate on a time
1:05:39 frame for from Stephens team but I think
1:05:42 that is something that's an interest to
1:05:44 the city and is a part of the MMP we've
1:05:47 been expecting that that's going to be
1:05:48 kind of a next step implementation item
1:05:54 you have to add on what Kendra said and
1:05:57 then I'll just take one more minute and
1:05:59 then we can move on the original plan
1:06:03 and the plan is still to have deeper
1:06:05 conversations on transit following the
1:06:07 adoption we intentionally did not have
1:06:10 those conversations because we knew they
1:06:14 they were gonna be extensive I mean we
1:06:16 we are wanting to have community
1:06:17 conversations around station planning
1:06:20 around what type of access we want to
1:06:23 light rail or high speed high high
1:06:29 volume transit facilities and so being
1:06:33 able to do that we wanted to be able to
1:06:36 focus on just that as separate from the
1:06:39 master plan so we can focus on the
1:06:41 master plan first and then jump into
1:06:42 those deeper transit conversations how
1:06:46 that's gonna happen now we're not
1:06:48 entirely sure yet because Metro doesn't
1:06:51 even know what recovery orb and Sound
1:06:53 Transit don't even know where recovery
1:06:54 look like and they have even finalized
1:06:57 their forecast models yet so until all
1:07:02 that is done
1:07:05 we can have initial conversations but
1:07:08 those bigger conversations gonna have to
1:07:10 wait until we know what recovery looks
1:07:13 like and then we have a better idea of
1:07:15 what after recovery
1:07:20 this is a great discussion Cynthia I
1:07:22 really want to thank you for bringing
1:07:23 that up
1:07:24 excellent topic and one that I you asked
1:07:28 what we thought of it and I agree with
1:07:30 you and glad you brought it up I would
1:07:32 say to Stephen that Cynthia was maybe
1:07:36 where did this come from
1:07:38 Genta there's only one application for
1:07:42 large-scale parking facilities and I
1:07:44 think Cynthia may also be saying that
1:07:47 the the use of land or parking making of
1:07:53 itself be something that would look at
1:07:55 not just as a compliment to a Transit
1:07:59 Center but what is our policy about
1:08:02 parking facilities and maybe we'll we
1:08:06 could look at that sooner and get a feel
1:08:09 from the community and from the city
1:08:11 about how we could make things develop
1:08:15 the way that we wanted to develop
1:08:17 and the end of the future in the system
1:08:21 and probably maybe another thing to tie
1:08:23 into the parking center is if it could
1:08:24 be used for multiple things that was it
1:08:26 just parking for transit the city
1:08:29 parking for local business park there
1:08:31 are people commuting to Seattle
1:08:32 Washington work Costco a single facility
1:08:36 that could have multiple users supposed
1:08:39 to one just for transit and a parking
1:08:41 lot or across go another parking lot for
1:08:43 somebody else it could also have you are
1:08:47 can have at least you get combine it
1:08:49 with other other users and good we want
1:08:55 to have that conversation sooner rather
1:08:56 than later Steven thank you
1:08:58 excellent okay so the next item was are
1:09:00 y'all ready any objections objections
1:09:03 next item is a MMP outline planning
1:09:07 context and future needs assessment
1:09:09 right even sure
1:09:15 it's it's fairly short is it helpful for
1:09:18 me to actually put this on the screen or
1:09:19 just to quickly talk about it and then
1:09:22 open the floor what would you prefer
1:09:25 Nana I'd like it on the screen we're
1:09:27 watching it now but we may be watching
1:09:30 it again later other people may watch it
1:09:31 in the video form there are a lot of
1:09:33 people interested in a project so let's
1:09:35 help them
1:09:42 okay so for the outline we try to keep
1:09:47 the outline very simple and very
1:09:49 straightforward we want to start with an
1:09:52 executive summary to simplify a lot of
1:09:55 the main messages that we are really
1:09:57 trying to convey as part of the master
1:09:58 plan we've heard the feedback from the
1:10:02 board members that having something
1:10:05 especially up front that's very simple
1:10:07 has a lot of graphics but is able to
1:10:10 tell the story of what we're trying to
1:10:12 achieve with the master plan is is we're
1:10:14 hoping to convey that in the executive
1:10:16 summary following the executive summary
1:10:19 we have the introduction in the process
1:10:21 we're telling the story of how we got to
1:10:23 where we are today with the policies in
1:10:25 the master plan and then talking about
1:10:28 the planning context and future needs
1:10:30 really displaying what the city the what
1:10:35 the transportation system is well looks
1:10:37 like today and applying the guiding
1:10:40 principles to that to show what we need
1:10:42 or at least what we're missing to
1:10:44 achieve our goals so my questions
1:10:47 actually about that outline is are we
1:10:50 missing anything based on previous
1:10:52 conversations we've had about the
1:10:54 outline or does anything seem unclear
1:11:02 go ahead and put it in the chat whether
1:11:04 you have a comment or a question loved
1:11:07 all on you
1:11:09 Stephen can I bring into for the
1:11:13 conversation this has this has two parts
1:11:16 there's to the outline and then there's
1:11:18 the planning context and future needs so
1:11:20 the next part of this agenda item is
1:11:23 that kind of middle or one two three
1:11:27 four the fourth section is that correct
1:11:29 am I getting my understanding that's
1:11:32 correct
1:11:36 any questions out there
1:11:40 principles I'll ask let's see this a
1:11:42 little bit so when you get into the
1:11:44 planning context and future needs it's
1:11:46 not for many pages but they are totally
1:11:50 up front in the executive summary that
1:11:53 right
1:11:54 yes the guiding principles will be
1:11:56 outlined in the executive summary but
1:11:57 more importantly though it'll be part of
1:12:01 the plan or at least the introduction of
1:12:04 you know we had these conversations and
1:12:07 we determined these are what is we find
1:12:10 it important or our transportation
1:12:12 system
1:12:15 and tom has a question so let me call on
1:12:17 Tom you can state your question and and
1:12:20 flesh it out for us sure I was looking
1:12:23 that I wasn't sure with the guiding
1:12:24 principles is that where the policies
1:12:26 that we've been talking about is that
1:12:28 where that would be located it's time to
1:12:31 look through the major titles so there
1:12:34 so the section under introduction what
1:12:39 we're talking about
1:12:40 why developed the TMP now and give that
1:12:43 story of what we the feedback we got
1:12:47 from the community we concluded with
1:12:49 that what the guiding principles being
1:12:51 the ultimate goals that we're trying to
1:12:53 achieve but then guiding principles are
1:12:55 embedded in all three policies and the
1:12:58 criteria that we'll be using
1:13:01 okay answer in terms of specifically
1:13:04 said to be called out so they could read
1:13:06 through those and never
1:13:10 they could see what all our involves the
1:13:12 guiding bottles he's wearing as far as
1:13:13 how we did the evaluation
1:13:16 when you said throughout the document is
1:13:18 there one area that they it's really
1:13:21 clear for them or is it yeah so it'll be
1:13:23 it'll be called out specifically in the
1:13:25 executive summary but it'll be even more
1:13:27 called out in terms of like how they
1:13:28 were developed and list them all out in
1:13:30 the introduction as well okay
1:13:38 any other questions I have one more
1:13:41 even on the end of the outline that says
1:13:44 prioritized project lists
1:13:49 is that them are we getting to that sure
1:13:54 so the project list that we're gonna be
1:13:57 looking at tonight that is not going to
1:14:01 be that is not the prioritized project
1:14:03 that is just the general full project
1:14:05 list as as we've been able to collect it
1:14:08 they've they're separated in different
1:14:11 categories but the criteria that we've
1:14:15 been going over and we got review of
1:14:17 tonight we're going to apply that
1:14:18 criteria to those projects and score all
1:14:22 the projects and that's how we'll come
1:14:24 up with the prioritized projects when
1:14:28 would we do we see that and what's the
1:14:32 what's the life cycle of that getting to
1:14:34 some kind of approval or use after
1:14:36 tonight where you will work with the
1:14:38 ad-hoc committee with the priority going
1:14:40 through the prioritized project list
1:14:41 helping making sure there's enough
1:14:43 language that things seem clear and then
1:14:46 we're going to move to the full the
1:14:48 public release of the draft plan in
1:14:50 early July that'll be kind of the first
1:14:51 opportunity for the full tab to be able
1:14:54 to see the full prioritized projects
1:15:00 anybody else in the
1:15:03 chatbox we're not going very far though
1:15:05 we're just going to the second part of
1:15:06 this moving from the outline to the
1:15:09 planning context in future needs if
1:15:11 you're ready Steven we'll go to that and
1:15:13 if any of you have questions about the
1:15:15 list itself I'm just say so in the chat
1:15:17 window please sure
1:15:27 okay not seeing any questions I'll
1:15:30 briefly describe the planning context in
1:15:33 the future needs the
1:15:36 context is is our assessment of existing
1:15:39 conditions it lays out our
1:15:42 transportation as it looks today and and
1:15:44 it specifically looks at each of the
1:15:46 travel modes and travel Bay and travel
1:15:48 behavior of how our community gets
1:15:53 around and the future needs assessment
1:15:55 is is taking a you know a different
1:15:59 picture of applying our guiding
1:16:01 principles to our existing conditions
1:16:03 and describing what we're clearly
1:16:05 missing to meet our own goals of the
1:16:07 system in accordance with the guiding
1:16:09 principles is there anything specific
1:16:13 that you want me well actually should I
1:16:15 just open the floor now and go to
1:16:17 specific sections where there's
1:16:18 questions and comments
1:16:20 sure we can do that you're looking in
1:16:23 the chat for some questions
1:16:29 I can ask one to kind of get it started
1:16:32 throughout the paragraphs Stephen I
1:16:36 calling it in my little notes here
1:16:38 commentary in some of this there's a an
1:16:41 opinion about what something means or
1:16:44 why it's significant or whatever how is
1:16:47 this composed and and those kinds of
1:16:50 assessments made in the narrative
1:16:58 there are a certain section that you're
1:16:59 referring to or
1:17:22 you know on the fly I don't know if I
1:17:24 can come up with it that
1:17:26 when you go down into scrolling down
1:17:28 into the paragraphs though where it says
1:17:31 that we that what we have is good or is
1:17:34 adequate or is you know we have high
1:17:36 quality we have a really walkable
1:17:38 community or whatever you know win and
1:17:40 something gets that qualifier rather
1:17:45 than just saying what it is you know
1:17:49 what you say in some instances you say
1:17:52 we have so many miles of something
1:17:53 that's just a fact but in some cases it
1:17:56 says we have a really good system you
1:18:00 know or we have a really bad system you
1:18:02 know when those words are used where
1:18:05 does that come about and we may be clean
1:18:08 that up let the data speak for itself
1:18:13 I see you know a lot of the comments are
1:18:17 at least the descriptions of the data is
1:18:20 using you know our assessment comparing
1:18:24 with what we see as good facilities
1:18:27 versus bad facilities
1:18:29 I guess one example is looking at our
1:18:33 grids our grid system in Central Islip
1:18:37 Oliver for versus Old Town I guess one
1:18:41 of the descriptions that is and here is
1:18:42 it is that there is a better current
1:18:46 system in the old town area versus the
1:18:50 central is flow because we we have a
1:18:54 little more room system to be able to
1:18:55 connect whether it's vehicle traffic or
1:18:58 of his pedestrian bicycle that gives us
1:19:00 better options for how we can better
1:19:02 connect the neighborhood with central
1:19:04 risk well we're limited on a lot of
1:19:06 areas to be able to better connect which
1:19:09 is vice some new projects
1:19:13 projects are being proposed to create
1:19:16 new connections does that help answer
1:19:19 your question uh yeah it does a little
1:19:22 bit and I think what I do is go back and
1:19:23 look at it and maybe others may see some
1:19:27 something of what I'm looking at okay
1:19:30 and then question I was just gonna
1:19:35 respond to you I mean there there's
1:19:38 professional judgment that was put in
1:19:41 there yeah Eric your staff right now is
1:19:44 the primary author although we benefit
1:19:46 from a lot of edits and guidance from
1:19:48 Stephen um you know I I would say we
1:19:53 have tried to draw some conclusions to
1:19:57 make a document readable one to kind of
1:19:59 emphasize some ideas um I was looking I
1:20:03 was making sure we didn't in anywhere
1:20:05 say that something was bad we're good
1:20:08 I'm glad to say we didn't quite use
1:20:09 those terms but to the extent that you
1:20:12 feel like we've drawn an inappropriate
1:20:14 conclusion of based on you know kind of
1:20:18 your local knowledge we certainly
1:20:21 welcome
1:20:26 Oh looks like we've lost Steven
1:20:30 Oh even come back
1:20:34 I'd still be there he might have just
1:20:35 walked no I know he's got a yellow ring
1:20:37 Steven are you thinking about this is
1:20:39 Tom are you thinking about the
1:20:44 why there isn't a roadway Network grids
1:20:47 like self between sunset and second and
1:20:49 why we don't have something over in the
1:20:52 Tibbets Valley growth area but then
1:20:55 similar to that
1:20:58 I know time what I was thinking was the
1:21:00 the language used in the in the
1:21:02 narrative yen okay and I think that the
1:21:05 staff and Kendra have explained it that
1:21:09 there were based on expertise at certain
1:21:13 qualifications that they're sharing in a
1:21:15 readable fashion in the plan and I think
1:21:18 it is an appropriate invitation to say
1:21:20 that if any of it doesn't ring right to
1:21:23 us that we should say so so when you're
1:21:26 reading it if there is anything like
1:21:28 that then go ahead and say something
1:21:30 about it
1:21:31 and Robert has a question while we wait
1:21:33 for Stephen can anyone text Stephen Oh
1:21:36 his computer crashed
1:21:38 oh my gosh coming back soon okay I have
1:21:41 a question for Kendra that I think you
1:21:43 can answer it has to do with
1:21:47 our review cycle and in here there are
1:21:51 timeline expectations that are on it
1:21:55 just a little deeper in
1:21:59 in the document but given the kovat
1:22:04 emergency of the stay at home and the
1:22:06 changes and not yet coming back we have
1:22:09 a review cycle for this embedded in the
1:22:12 document so that whatever we might make
1:22:15 expectations of today could be easily
1:22:19 and not too far down the road corrected
1:22:21 if things don't go the way we think
1:22:23 they're going oh we've got Stephen back
1:22:28 I see that was a fast-food just in terms
1:22:32 of so Stephen that question that 9ns
1:22:35 this is about a review cycle so now what
1:22:38 I understand we're working under is that
1:22:40 you know we've been we have a week by
1:22:43 week schedule of pieces that we're
1:22:45 giving to Steve it because of course
1:22:47 documents are going through consultant
1:22:50 review and then staff review eventually
1:22:52 up to like ta be an ad hoc review I know
1:23:00 we've got Stephen shared that the
1:23:04 intention is for a draft and what I
1:23:08 don't know nine out to you and hopefully
1:23:10 Stephen can elaborate is where at what
1:23:13 point we need ad hoc review comments so
1:23:17 they can make it into that early July
1:23:19 draft
1:23:26 let me clarify my question if Marta
1:23:29 regarded the timelines that are stated
1:23:32 and expectations of certain things
1:23:34 getting done in 10 years or 20 years or
1:23:36 whatever they are how often do we review
1:23:40 this document we review it in one year
1:23:42 do we review it in five years and the
1:23:44 reason that it bring that up is obvious
1:23:47 because we should have something like
1:23:48 that but the other is that we're in such
1:23:50 a state of unknown right now with the
1:23:53 Cova demur gence ii stay at home impacts
1:23:57 not yet fully felt and we certainly have
1:24:00 not yet recovered from them so what
1:24:02 would be our review of final document to
1:24:08 see if what we thought was going to
1:24:11 happen is happening especially due to
1:24:14 the kovat emergency and impacts entrance
1:24:19 so whoever wants to answer that Kendra
1:24:21 or Stephen
1:24:23 well I'm gonna let Steven elaborate on
1:24:27 that because I mean what you're talking
1:24:28 is definitely far beyond the extent of
1:24:32 our contract I would say that most
1:24:35 communities do revisit their train plans
1:24:38 every five or so years to confirm the
1:24:42 right things however how do you bring
1:24:44 you have a great point we are at an
1:24:46 inflection point for travel modeling and
1:24:49 forecasting and I think you're making it
1:24:52 point that the world is changing so much
1:24:54 that what we're saying today I don't
1:24:57 know if we know if the trends that we've
1:24:59 relied on for a long period of time so
1:25:07 if I I think I heard most of the
1:25:10 question can you hear me okay okay is
1:25:14 the question that I heard was what how
1:25:17 often are we updating and particularly
1:25:20 because the pandemic has really changed
1:25:22 our system is being used
1:25:26 I typically the master plan is updated
1:25:31 probably every five seven years
1:25:34 parallel to a comp plan update because
1:25:38 we are replacing the translation element
1:25:43 of the comprehensive plan with mobility
1:25:45 master plan we would be providing
1:25:49 updates along with the other sections
1:25:51 now with that said
1:25:55 plan does get occasional updates every
1:25:58 year and there's no reason why we can't
1:26:01 continue to take a look particularly
1:26:03 because of the pandemic to look at new
1:26:06 data because even though our land use
1:26:10 hasn't change you know the demand has
1:26:13 shifted there's gonna be a lot more
1:26:15 people working from home in the near and
1:26:18 potentially long-term future that's
1:26:20 gonna be impacting how our systems being
1:26:23 used and where the needs are going to be
1:26:25 needed especially with looking at equity
1:26:30 you know the needs are gonna be
1:26:32 significantly different in our community
1:26:35 and the communities around us so I think
1:26:37 it's gonna be important to be taking a
1:26:39 look at this fairly regularly until the
1:26:42 system is a little more calm down
1:26:48 I know it's not a very straight answer
1:26:50 yes we're gonna update it every two
1:26:52 years but but it is it is very much kind
1:26:55 of playing it by ear with how everything
1:26:57 goes with recovery and post recovery
1:27:01 hmm thank you
1:27:04 thank you any other questions about
1:27:09 text in future needs
1:27:15 a man
1:27:16 [Music]
1:27:18 on to the next item on the agenda the
1:27:21 ability master plan project list and
1:27:25 again Stephen
1:27:29 thank you I am I'm having to pull
1:27:33 everything back of it so getting you
1:27:35 give me a quick minute and I apologize
1:27:41 that part of that I my computer just
1:27:43 completely crashed
1:27:46 same thing that happened to me early on
1:27:49 in the meeting you got back pretty quick
1:27:51 it's like getting dumped out of a boat
1:27:53 and then coming back in isn't it yes she
1:27:58 because suddenly I just got that
1:28:00 beautiful blue screen telling me that I
1:28:04 needed to open everything back up okay
1:28:06 so did we were there any further
1:28:08 measurements are there any further
1:28:11 questions on the planning context or
1:28:13 future needs are we moving on okay
1:28:16 some of the projects and then I will
1:28:22 share my screen on this one
1:28:40 okay so with the project lists and I'm
1:28:44 gonna ask Kendra to help out on the
1:28:48 development of the project that's
1:28:49 because she and Sarah Peters our project
1:28:52 manager work extensively on putting this
1:28:55 together so they can help probably
1:28:59 better answer more of the questions but
1:29:02 the the development of this project was
1:29:05 really pulled from a lot of pre-existing
1:29:07 plans and project lists that the city
1:29:10 already had he quote from the walk and
1:29:12 roll plan be pulled from the city's
1:29:14 capital improvement plan we pulled from
1:29:17 the park strategic plan to pull out all
1:29:20 the city's translation prod pre-existing
1:29:23 projects and then we added on to it
1:29:25 using the policies that we've helped
1:29:28 with with your help develop to really
1:29:31 pinpoint gaps in our system and so
1:29:35 projects the first project through
1:29:38 project and I believe 97 are all
1:29:42 projects that have been previously
1:29:44 looked at and previous previously
1:29:46 assessed as far as the capital
1:29:48 improvement plan art of concurrency part
1:29:52 of the comp plan
1:29:59 and that was one of my questions is if
1:30:01 open houses were held for those and F
1:30:04 will have open houses for all the new
1:30:06 projects that from 5 to 98 on a 10-point
1:30:12 Kendra and we lost Steven again who
1:30:15 knows it why don't you do what you can
1:30:17 with Tom's question absolutely so I
1:30:20 actually just give maybe even a higher
1:30:22 level kind of perspective here we have a
1:30:25 hunt about a hundred fifty projects that
1:30:27 have come out they've come from a
1:30:28 variety of sources as Steven mentioned
1:30:30 the first roughly a hundred have come
1:30:32 from your existing plans and the
1:30:35 additional 50 have come from our other
1:30:38 analysis and to remind you we talked
1:30:40 about sidewalk standards we talked about
1:30:42 locations where we might expect to have
1:30:45 sidewalks on both sides of the street or
1:30:47 one side of the street and what we did
1:30:49 is a team as we compared your existing
1:30:51 structure that's in place to what we
1:30:54 said the standard would be and we
1:30:56 identified locations where
1:30:57 infrastructure didn't quite meet that
1:30:59 standard and that's how we created kind
1:31:01 of those additional 50 projects beyond
1:31:03 what you have today so I think to the
1:31:07 question that was Tom right Tom asked it
1:31:10 was a very good one how are we gonna get
1:31:12 community input first first of all I'd
1:31:15 say there's another step here that's
1:31:17 gonna be I think very helpful we have a
1:31:21 hundred and fifty projects and I think
1:31:22 something that we're all painfully aware
1:31:24 of is that it's highly unlikely that the
1:31:27 city is going to have money to fund all
1:31:29 150 of these projects so some good
1:31:32 questions that we have is well how do we
1:31:34 decide which projects get funded and
1:31:37 that's really where we do look to that
1:31:40 evaluation criteria that we have worked
1:31:44 on with all of you and with staff
1:31:46 extensively think about well you know as
1:31:49 a part of this MMP we have identified
1:31:52 the things that we think are the most
1:31:53 important risk for our residents and the
1:31:57 criteria I actually do want to pull it
1:31:59 up again just I know I'm not sharing my
1:32:01 screen but I think it is it does bear
1:32:05 reminding you know kind of things that
1:32:07 you've said that are really important so
1:32:09 again projects abilities yeah I think
1:32:13 list up you want me to share my screen
1:32:15 and listen
1:32:17 um sure the the the project list or I
1:32:21 was just looking at the criteria that we
1:32:23 talked about earlier okay how Dante
1:32:25 creatures yeah to evaluate to
1:32:29 environmental sustainability how they
1:32:32 connect better connected squat with the
1:32:35 region I think I'm looking for preparing
1:32:38 for growth and I do and I'm not actually
1:32:41 I navigated away so I don't know if you
1:32:44 were sharing your screen Tom that's okay
1:32:46 if you're not
1:32:46 no I was not I was gonna help you sure
1:32:50 and I've been trying I see Stevens back
1:32:55 so although I could share the content I
1:33:00 have it I do I have the ability
1:33:09 yeah I don't think I'm succeeding at
1:33:11 this are you guys seeing it looks like
1:33:15 I'm sharing are you you are able to see
1:33:17 it alright um Stephen I know you've been
1:33:20 away so we were just talking about this
1:33:23 150 projects and what I was mentioning
1:33:26 is kind of next step is really looking
1:33:28 at how these 150 investments this we
1:33:31 know we can't we can't afford all of it
1:33:33 how they match up with these criteria
1:33:40 that we talked about and I think it is
1:33:42 really important I think you want to
1:33:43 highlight a few talk about improving
1:33:45 mobility within his plot and some of the
1:33:47 clear things that were looking at and we
1:33:51 already went through this at a previous
1:33:52 item but I do like do you have an equity
1:33:55 measure yeah how were you know really
1:33:58 helping folks within the city who maybe
1:34:01 don't have as many mobility
1:34:03 opportunities to move more efficiently
1:34:05 but we have kind of these 6v6 criterion
1:34:10 and out of these six criterion we have
1:34:13 several kind of more objective
1:34:15 quantifiable measures projects and so I
1:34:19 think to get back to your question I'm
1:34:22 gonna stop sharing my screen so we go to
1:34:25 things that Stephen or others might want
1:34:28 to share we the the step the technical
1:34:34 step that's going and that's going
1:34:35 forward with the consultant team right
1:34:36 now and we're working actually
1:34:38 partnership with staff is we're looking
1:34:40 at each and every one of those projects
1:34:42 and identifying how well each and every
1:34:45 one of those projects advances these
1:34:48 priorities and so the next step is for
1:34:52 you all to be for us to come back and
1:34:55 report to you or report to the ad hoc
1:34:58 committee in terms of what are those
1:35:00 projects that are the most consistent
1:35:03 and so again we know that we can't fund
1:35:06 150 but what what is that what is that
1:35:10 more discrete number of projects that is
1:35:12 affordable within that horizon and so to
1:35:15 your question in sharing this with the
1:35:18 community you know if you would ask me
1:35:22 you know what probably some way it will
1:35:25 be possible for the community to see all
1:35:27 the different investments we've we've
1:35:29 looked at but a list of 150 isn't
1:35:32 terribly useful and can be very daunting
1:35:34 to look at takes a lot of time and so I
1:35:38 think what we're hoping to share with
1:35:40 the community is a more focused
1:35:42 Dieselworks saying we've you know done
1:35:44 pretty robust analysis and here's the
1:35:47 investments that we're recommending
1:35:48 moving forward with a much more discreet
1:35:51 level and I think at that point we
1:35:53 really do want to hear from the
1:35:54 community of this more focused this kid
1:36:00 is this you know generally meeting your
1:36:03 needs are there major gaps that we're
1:36:06 not addressing and something that I
1:36:08 stress I work with a lot of communities
1:36:10 going for a very similar process is that
1:36:13 this you know kind of more objective
1:36:15 quantifiable process that we've gone
1:36:18 through it helps us to focus it's a very
1:36:21 useful tool but I think at the end of
1:36:22 the day does required human touch to
1:36:25 make sure we're not missing things and I
1:36:27 think just I want to harken back to
1:36:29 Cynthia's comments the very beginning of
1:36:32 this I think you really you know spoke a
1:36:34 lot to my heart in terms of thinking
1:36:36 about is we're becoming more we're
1:36:38 structural racism in our society very
1:36:42 important considerations I think you
1:36:44 know it does I think require some
1:36:47 thought to make sure that the
1:36:49 transportation system that we're
1:36:50 recommending is a part of this MMP is
1:36:53 this a transportation system that's
1:36:55 really truly creating more mobility
1:36:59 opportunities or safety or comfort for
1:37:03 the full spectrum of baseball community
1:37:06 so I'm going to stop there to give the
1:37:09 floor back to the TV members and Steven
1:37:13 but hopefully that sort of helped answer
1:37:15 that question
1:37:17 yeah I'll go to you Steven we were Tom
1:37:21 had just thrown out a question so we
1:37:24 could continue while we waited for you
1:37:26 to come back um
1:37:28 Hitler might have said some things that
1:37:30 were inspiring you to comment to once
1:37:34 you go ahead and continue where you were
1:37:39 yes I remember when I was just listening
1:37:43 to the comments and the questions and
1:37:47 maybe I mean I was actually really close
1:37:50 to concluding summarizing what the
1:37:53 project list it's very straight forward
1:37:54 in terms of like what it was the biggest
1:37:56 questions for you is trying to figure
1:37:58 out know is there anything that you
1:38:02 think is missing is there anything to
1:38:05 the particularly the new projects
1:38:07 reflects a lot of the new policies that
1:38:10 we've discussed because that's where
1:38:11 they came from
1:38:12 identifying where there's gaps in our
1:38:15 sidewalk system my gaps in our bike
1:38:18 bicycle facilities or the type of
1:38:20 bicycle facilities that at least improve
1:38:23 this is a little bit I think before your
1:38:27 computer crash the first time you were
1:38:28 just talking about the first 98 where I
1:38:31 pray police been rented and whatnot
1:38:34 you're starting to talk about the next
1:38:35 group I'm not sure if you want to if
1:38:37 there's anything more to say about a
1:38:39 long same line just and how the next
1:38:42 group came about those are the ones
1:38:44 we're gonna be really looking at sure
1:38:46 sure the only thing I would say about
1:38:48 the first ninety seven ninety three
1:38:52 projects is that it's been a few years
1:38:55 since we've looked at them we look them
1:38:57 as part of the more recent yabby process
1:38:59 but it was more as financial updates
1:39:02 like making sure cost assessments about
1:39:04 today but as we move forward and kind of
1:39:07 answering the question on what happens
1:39:09 next after mobility master planners we
1:39:11 take it take a better you know a closer
1:39:14 look at this full project list determine
1:39:17 you know some of these projects have
1:39:19 been on the CA p or bin as part of
1:39:22 previous project list for a really long
1:39:24 time are they still relevant and we
1:39:26 start having those conversations again
1:39:28 the way our capital improvement program
1:39:31 has worked in the past is that the
1:39:34 we kind of kept a running list going you
1:39:37 know some some projects kind of come off
1:39:39 when there's no longer other than listen
1:39:42 a while since we've actually gone
1:39:44 through the exercise so I think
1:39:46 following the adoption of the mobility
1:39:48 master plans because you're having those
1:39:49 conversations around the full project
1:39:51 list and and determining what are our
1:39:54 higher priorities with the new project
1:39:58 lists I mean the biggest things to me
1:40:00 that I think is missing is is taking a
1:40:03 little bit closer look at transit
1:40:04 improvements and how access to our
1:40:07 transit facilities or our transit
1:40:10 network can be improved and it's missing
1:40:14 that primarily because we want to save
1:40:16 those transit conversations or later
1:40:18 when we have a deeper discussion around
1:40:20 light rail and what our transit system
1:40:22 should look like
1:40:26 and then now I will hand the floor over
1:40:28 back to the board on any comments or
1:40:31 questions
1:40:34 even I don't see any in the chat but are
1:40:37 there any questions about this
1:40:43 well you guys think about it it seemed
1:40:46 like that there were some questions in
1:40:47 the first section the one through 93
1:40:50 that might be items that are already
1:40:52 under construction or already been
1:40:55 completed is this when was this list
1:40:57 from the projects 1 through 93
1:41:03 it's not necessarily that they're all in
1:41:05 construction they're all under other
1:41:07 project lists so they're either on there
1:41:09 our capital improvement program or
1:41:11 they're under they were listed in the
1:41:13 park strategic plan or they were
1:41:16 identified in our our concurrency
1:41:25 are there any other questions about the
1:41:32 another question not this is tone not
1:41:37 yet I said I want to have a little more
1:41:39 time to read through each one of them
1:41:40 and kind of relate to where they are and
1:41:42 how to tie an existing project which I
1:41:45 have not onion
1:41:49 like Cynthia has a question go ahead
1:41:51 Cynthia she's going back through all my
1:41:54 emails and there was one of two two one
1:41:59 two three three three of three and I
1:42:01 appreciate that and I was trying to
1:42:03 figure out how I missed I guess I'm
1:42:05 gonna ask the dumb question here this
1:42:07 seems like a big body of work that we
1:42:09 should spend some time with I don't know
1:42:13 I don't understand I guess I'm just not
1:42:16 really clear on how or what we're doing
1:42:20 I understood Kendra's point and I think
1:42:23 that's a really useful exercise but this
1:42:27 is where the rubber meets the road and
1:42:29 I'm not like understanding I haven't
1:42:33 given it the time somehow I I think I
1:42:37 looked at the first three the fourth one
1:42:39 was literally hidden like it like it was
1:42:41 too many into the you know in the screen
1:42:42 and so it didn't show me there was a I
1:42:44 haven't studied this I guess I'm a
1:42:48 little bit confused about the process
1:42:50 and it seems like this is pretty
1:42:52 important and so I don't know what to do
1:42:56 because I bet if I spent some time with
1:42:58 this I would have an opinion and there
1:42:59 probably be robust discussion about it
1:43:02 am I the only one that's feeling a
1:43:03 little overwhelmed and lost by that 950
1:43:07 an ill-prepared know that I think that
1:43:11 was probably what I was trying to say
1:43:12 also is that you know Tillich states
1:43:15 observe them see how the tie-in with
1:43:16 existing projects and then exactly what
1:43:21 my feedback or comment is supposed to be
1:43:24 in regards to the specific projects or
1:43:28 however late or if they fit within the
1:43:30 policy or not fit within the policy I'm
1:43:31 not sure what my response or comment
1:43:33 back is supposed to be
1:43:37 I'm very good you guys Sujatha or kobe
1:43:41 do you want to say anything now or do
1:43:42 you want Steven maybe to talk about what
1:43:44 what is the expectation or what is our
1:43:48 role in this list what are you looking
1:43:52 for from us
1:43:56 yeah I'd like to hear from Stephen about
1:43:58 getting some direction based on and
1:44:01 comments on the upside sure I mean the
1:44:04 the expectation really was just to give
1:44:07 you an opportunity to look through the
1:44:10 project list before it gets released
1:44:12 because we haven't had a chance to look
1:44:15 at this yet and the opportunity now is
1:44:19 to help answer any questions about
1:44:20 what's in the project list what to look
1:44:22 for and in particular if you have
1:44:25 questions about specific projects where
1:44:27 they came from or how they eventually
1:44:30 will be scored by that back and for
1:44:32 specific questions can be answered later
1:44:34 on when we actually apply the criteria
1:44:38 so if I understand we will apply the
1:44:41 criteria to these projects as a group or
1:44:43 is that something we should look at now
1:44:44 why we're looking at the projects we
1:44:46 just try to understand them now yeah
1:44:50 yeah when I say we omit the the project
1:44:53 team is going to be applying the
1:44:54 criteria to the project list and then
1:44:56 we're gonna go through it make sure that
1:44:58 it's we're applying the criteria
1:45:01 correctly and then you'll see the final
1:45:02 scoring later
1:45:04 okay so that helps me you can be
1:45:07 applying the criteria so as I review the
1:45:10 sweat feedback - you need for me to get
1:45:13 to so that you can have that feedback
1:45:15 when you're looking at these and
1:45:17 applying the criteria it's primarily
1:45:21 just looking at maybe helping you
1:45:22 understand what the project this is the
1:45:24 primary questions I'm looking for
1:45:32 or Kobe do you have any comments or
1:45:34 questions about the list
1:45:40 okay and it's in it's clearly fine if
1:45:43 there aren't any questions we just
1:45:44 didn't want to put out a full draft plan
1:45:48 in July and not give you an opportunity
1:45:51 to see what the project list it looks
1:45:52 like to play around and you know helping
1:45:55 you understand what the project list
1:45:57 that's gonna be coming out so that's
1:45:59 good so hopefully timing the Wynwood you
1:46:03 want comments or any feedback that we
1:46:06 have back to you so you have time to
1:46:08 process that for your next time once we
1:46:11 have final scoring done we're gonna work
1:46:13 closely with ad hoc committee used in
1:46:16 China and Emma I'm thinking a look at
1:46:19 making sure that the criteria is being
1:46:21 applied correctly or the criteria is
1:46:22 being used or in a way that word that
1:46:25 the board is really discussed okay
1:46:27 Sophia any comments do you wanted back
1:46:30 to you guys the at all committee by
1:46:33 certain I'll follow up with that all
1:46:36 committee with more specific details
1:46:40 I have a couple of questions yes um I
1:46:45 think it's good to have a plan reference
1:46:48 number I don't know what what's DM and
1:46:50 and what order are these in
1:46:55 where are you looking right now sorry
1:46:57 I'm looking at page one of the project
1:47:00 the draft project list and there's a
1:47:05 column on the right-hand side
1:47:09 two-thirds of the way over that says
1:47:10 plan reference number okay - there's no
1:47:15 reference number
1:47:17 no I meant I'm sorry Alma you won and I
1:47:20 was just wondering what DM me it meant
1:47:24 there must be a plan that's abbreviated
1:47:32 oh it's it's from the concurrency model
1:47:35 updates oh it's from that project list
1:47:39 I just the calm before that has an
1:47:41 abbreviated DM
1:47:44 that is the reference number in that
1:47:46 project list so DM 2 DM 3 DM for that's
1:47:49 the reference numbers hi mom
1:47:55 I can
1:48:00 but and then I was wondering also what
1:48:04 is there an order to these
1:48:08 if I may not yet so we is it totally
1:48:14 random well not totally I didn't think
1:48:18 as they were constructed and compiled
1:48:21 but what I would say is that in the next
1:48:24 iteration when you start seeing these we
1:48:26 can order them based on kind of their
1:48:28 point score because these are coming
1:48:30 from such a variety of sources that
1:48:32 we've kept for administrative tracking
1:48:35 purposes whether you know if it came
1:48:37 from currency they've got a DM if they
1:48:39 came from another and they might have a
1:48:42 there's different names and that's it's
1:48:44 really just so that staff has a clear
1:48:46 idea of exactly where these come from
1:48:48 but as we start bringing these into the
1:48:51 MMP we'll be stripping out some of that
1:48:53 information that isn't really useful to
1:48:55 any mere mortal and ordering things more
1:49:00 based on their scoring or based on their
1:49:03 geographic location in the city we've
1:49:04 done that I have done that in
1:49:06 communities as well so one of the
1:49:09 reasons I asked the question was I was
1:49:10 wondering if it had anything to do with
1:49:12 how long they've been lying around
1:49:17 where they didn't stale or some getting
1:49:19 stale no um what Kendra said they really
1:49:24 aren't in personality it was more about
1:49:26 kind of the reference he and how we were
1:49:27 ordering for admission purposes but the
1:49:30 next version will be projecting a more
1:49:34 organized fashion
1:49:38 I think I'll put a quick comment in that
1:49:40 we really did look at this as kind of a
1:49:42 pencils up exercise today just share
1:49:46 with you kind of where we are and I
1:49:49 think to the point of you know I totally
1:49:51 get the question you've got a hundred
1:49:53 and fifty projects here you have about
1:49:56 10,000 columns what are we supposed to
1:49:59 do in some of these and it's just more
1:50:01 to share with you the general concept of
1:50:03 the project list what we're doing with
1:50:05 it what the origins of it are and I
1:50:08 think in the next step it'll start being
1:50:10 lot more refined and make quite a bit
1:50:13 more sense
1:50:18 are there any other questions about the
1:50:21 list I have a really easy one softball
1:50:26 to you Steven the time frame this list
1:50:30 has concurrency how far in the future is
1:50:33 this view this list
1:50:38 how how far into the future is the list
1:50:41 oh yeah the projects were build-out
1:50:43 yeah project list is this for our growth
1:50:46 in the next thirty years what is it in
1:50:49 the next twenty eight twenty yeah I
1:50:51 think the full range is like twenty five
1:50:52 years
1:50:58 thank you that that helps a great deal
1:51:00 okay then there's just a couple more
1:51:02 items under this agenda with the map of
1:51:05 projects if you want to introduce us a
1:51:08 little of that and then the sidewalk
1:51:10 projects sure so the the mapper projects
1:51:13 is tied with the reference numbers to
1:51:15 that full project list so you can see
1:51:17 geographically where each of the
1:51:19 projects are located the
1:51:24 same goes for the sidewalk that one is
1:51:27 identifying locations of those
1:51:29 particular sidewalk projects as well as
1:51:36 tears that they're identified for
1:51:38 categories
1:51:41 so it's just the help is
1:51:42 the reference maps to help with you
1:51:45 referencing where all the projects are
1:51:48 located in the city
1:51:54 looking for questions from people does
1:51:56 anyone have a question
1:52:01 you know me I'm always ready with one
1:52:02 Cynthia do you have a question yeah yeah
1:52:05 Stephen yes it was cross-referencing the
1:52:09 sidewalk projects with the post policies
1:52:13 and looking especially at squawk
1:52:17 Mountain about where does where do we
1:52:20 have to have two sided sidewalks and
1:52:22 where do we not have two sided sidewalks
1:52:24 and that's one example of where these
1:52:26 two don't match and so heads up if
1:52:30 nothing else but I found that confusing
1:52:33 because they weren't the same you're
1:52:34 talking about what's on the map versus
1:52:36 what's on the ground now
1:52:39 the the two different the two maps are
1:52:41 different as referring to where policy
1:52:44 would require two-sided sidewalk
1:52:48 that's your one tear to your for
1:52:50 stopping signal and then the
1:52:53 corresponding map that's in the proposed
1:52:55 policies figure to be doesn't match this
1:53:02 okay so I will get together with Kendra
1:53:04 to look a little bit closer at all this
1:53:06 to make sure they are matching thank you
1:53:09 for bringing that up
1:53:15 not seeing anyone else with any
1:53:17 questions last call for questions this
1:53:19 is the last item of our agenda tonight
1:53:21 so if you who are inspired to ask a
1:53:24 question about something earlier in the
1:53:26 agenda I just have a general question so
1:53:35 next time we meet will that like I know
1:53:40 nothing certain with code and everything
1:53:42 but do you think it might be in person
1:53:44 if it's a month out it really depends
1:53:50 I'm planning for a virtual meeting
1:53:53 because we really don't know where we're
1:53:55 gonna be in the phases it could
1:53:57 potentially be an in-person meeting but
1:53:59 if the board has a preference well I
1:54:06 think we're going to take that into
1:54:07 consideration because what we don't want
1:54:08 to do is force people in a situation to
1:54:11 be somewhere they really don't want to
1:54:13 be so we'll have that conversation with
1:54:16 the chairs and with our city clerk
1:54:22 good question Emma and I want to come
1:54:24 back to that in just a moment in another
1:54:26 business if you are already I would move
1:54:29 into the report section and see if there
1:54:32 is a staff report tonight's evening I do
1:54:35 have a quick staff report so the first
1:54:38 is an item that I had talked to earlier
1:54:42 in the meeting on the downtown street
1:54:43 closures and I want to help answer any
1:54:46 questions about what that it is but just
1:54:49 briefly what that what we're doing is
1:54:51 we're closing down front Street between
1:54:53 sunset to dogwood and closing down alder
1:54:58 between first halves and first place
1:55:01 that's that middle crossing Street where
1:55:05 subway and Domino's is and in downtown
1:55:07 the idea right now is that section of
1:55:12 all there's actually the originally
1:55:13 planned festival street that was
1:55:16 designed in the streetscape plan several
1:55:18 years ago and so we're following that
1:55:19 footprint right now we're adding on
1:55:21 French Street particularly because of
1:55:24 this pandemic but also I mean that is
1:55:27 something that was identified as a
1:55:29 priority by the recovery task force to
1:55:32 be able to support the downtown
1:55:34 businesses to expand their outdoor
1:55:36 seating so they can better abide by
1:55:39 social distancing requirements there's
1:55:41 right now with social system
1:55:43 requirements there there are fairly a
1:55:45 lot of businesses being downtown they're
1:55:47 fairly limited in there and their
1:55:48 footprint to be able to follow and by
1:55:52 adequate service that makes sense for
1:55:54 you know the sales they need to maintain
1:55:56 their business so we're trying to expand
1:55:59 that outdoor seating so they can do that
1:56:01 and we're working with them by closing
1:56:04 the street and set iam barricades around
1:56:07 each of the businesses to define where
1:56:10 their service areas are because we're
1:56:13 defining the service areas the sidewalks
1:56:16 are actually going to be closed and
1:56:18 we're going to open up a 20-foot lane
1:56:23 down the middle that'll be used for
1:56:24 pedestrian bicycle way through all of
1:56:27 downtown so that way instead of using
1:56:29 the side sidewalks you'll be able to
1:56:32 ride your bike or walk through downtown
1:56:34 essentially using the roadway
1:56:36 and so there will have wayfinding
1:56:38 signage each of the areas will be well
1:56:40 defined so you can and see where and
1:56:43 each of the businesses will be able to
1:56:45 accommodate out there shooting there any
1:56:47 quick questions about that
1:56:50 yeah when would that be in place we are
1:56:56 planning to start that actually next
1:56:58 weekend so it'll be the closure starts
1:57:00 Friday June 26 it'll start in the
1:57:03 afternoon at 2 p.m. and then the roads
1:57:06 are open right back up at 10 o'clock
1:57:08 Saturday night or 10:30 exactly Saturday
1:57:11 night
1:57:12 Oh so it won't be one day - they may be
1:57:15 from Friday all the way through to
1:57:16 Saturday gratz ok
1:57:20 and then it'll open back up on Sunday
1:57:23 and right now we're gonna be doing this
1:57:25 for about two weeks monitoring the
1:57:28 community impacts to make sure because
1:57:29 we it is a pilot we want to make sure
1:57:31 that this isn't negatively impacting
1:57:33 it's actually achieving what we want it
1:57:35 to be which is helping the downtown
1:57:36 business and then after that two weeks
1:57:39 we're gonna determine whether or not we
1:57:41 want to continue either a couple weeks
1:57:43 more or through the summer the question
1:57:46 how's that being advertised to the city
1:57:49 and and president has spoken down so
1:57:52 they can come down and and and do that
1:57:56 enjoy the restaurants and whatnot so
1:57:58 some of its already started to hit
1:57:59 social media we are gonna hit social
1:58:04 media there fairly soon because this was
1:58:09 a recovery task force item it was a new
1:58:12 item for staff so we've been working on
1:58:14 actually pretty hard for last four weeks
1:58:16 to be able to pull this together and the
1:58:19 details are have been still finalized
1:58:22 just this week so all day
1:58:24 the heavier advertisement from the city
1:58:26 is gonna be coming now but the recovery
1:58:28 task force has been talking about this
1:58:29 for quite some time so the idea before
1:58:33 the closure is to have electronic signs
1:58:34 up when we do the closures so at least
1:58:37 traffic has some clear visibility on
1:58:40 French Street that the road is going to
1:58:41 be closed for the weekend and then we're
1:58:43 going to be going social media we're
1:58:45 going to be going on online networks to
1:58:48 make sure everybody knows what's going
1:58:50 also good that's because well we'll be
1:58:53 down there for that and I'll send a note
1:58:55 to our neighborhood here too that it's
1:58:56 coming up
1:58:58 it Cynthia had a question about the
1:59:00 frequency or you know
1:59:04 I think I answered the question
1:59:10 Thank You Steven anything else on staff
1:59:12 report my last quick tidbit for staff
1:59:17 reports a bit of a sad one my manager
1:59:19 Kurt is actually retiring at the end of
1:59:22 July so we will be down one more on our
1:59:27 staff we're sad to see him go but I just
1:59:30 want to let you all know that that he is
1:59:33 planning for retirement so happy for him
1:59:36 not so much for us
1:59:39 well I second that it's been such a
1:59:42 pleasure to have him on staff he's
1:59:43 really a what got such a wealth of
1:59:46 expertise and and of patience it's
1:59:49 really been great great for us and we
1:59:52 didn't have a chance to say goodbye he
1:59:54 said when does his retirement date at
1:59:57 the end of July end of July so you can
2:00:00 email him his email address is on the
2:00:02 website and say yeah congratulations
2:00:05 okay and then that's your last for the
2:00:07 staff report that's it I have nothing
2:00:10 for a chair report but maybe Cynthia
2:00:12 does do you have anything nope okay you
2:00:15 report looking at Kobe and actually I
2:00:22 was wondering if you could provide a
2:00:24 quick update on the recovery task force
2:00:26 I only talked about the one item is
2:00:29 there anything else that you you could
2:00:30 probably briefly talk about on the spot
2:00:34 they have been fabulous meetings and
2:00:37 I'll tell you they be
2:00:40 the track the cross-section of expertise
2:00:44 of volunteers from the city from people
2:00:46 who serve on development Commission's
2:00:47 people who serve in parks and people who
2:00:49 serve everywhere a Stephanie from our
2:00:52 group is on this task force and she has
2:00:56 been really great to give the point of
2:01:00 view of downtown Issaquah not just
2:01:03 retail but restaurants some really
2:01:05 important businesses so she's been
2:01:08 fabulous to see her there the mayor runs
2:01:11 the meetings and
2:01:14 as Steven indicated the use of the
2:01:19 information that's coming from the task
2:01:20 force is almost immediate and this is
2:01:22 happening now it's time to go now it's a
2:01:25 it's a really quick and actionable group
2:01:31 I'm trying to think of some of the other
2:01:32 things that we have been talking about
2:01:39 I don't think I can come up with it off
2:01:41 the top of my head but there they're
2:01:43 recorded and you can watch them and when
2:01:45 you watch them on YouTube you can speed
2:01:47 them up to 1.5 speed but they're not
2:01:50 long meetings and they really are very
2:01:52 helpful no no I just had a question for
2:02:02 the youth report that Kobe and Emily mo
2:02:05 you are both seniors this year yep we
2:02:09 are off to college in the fall and
2:02:12 graduated I say congratulations on
2:02:15 graduation and off to college and sorry
2:02:18 Oh such a rough left two messages in
2:02:21 your year well thank you I appreciate it
2:02:31 Tom you know this is so hard to keep
2:02:33 track of where we are and what we
2:02:35 already did and these guys have really
2:02:38 you're right they've really pulled
2:02:39 through you are going to be greatly
2:02:41 missed the time having you here has been
2:02:45 so valuable though really you've
2:02:47 contributed a great deal yeah I've been
2:02:50 on the street since halfway through high
2:02:52 school it's been a long time yeah
2:02:55 where are you two off to college I'm
2:02:58 going to you Deb yeah I'm going all the
2:03:02 way to Michigan Michigan State
2:03:04 University Michigan say okay well good
2:03:07 well congratulations to both you know
2:03:10 all three actually but the third is not
2:03:12 here but yes congratulations thank you
2:03:15 indeed congratulations and thank you
2:03:18 it's been great it's been really great
2:03:21 to have you I don't have anything else
2:03:23 it was one thing though that I wanted to
2:03:26 share in the discussion about the front
2:03:28 street is that if you haven't any of you
2:03:30 signed up for the notify me a letter or
2:03:34 email notices when you go to the main
2:03:37 page of Issaquah wad of scroll down just
2:03:40 a little bit and look for notifying me
2:03:42 and pick the topics that are of interest
2:03:44 to you and you can pick now my
2:03:45 development or transportation or
2:03:46 whatever your neighborhood I depend on
2:03:49 those so complete good so you can check
2:03:52 on those the last thing that business is
2:03:54 when is our next meeting and Steven I
2:03:56 want to ask you it says TBD when our
2:03:59 next meeting is but also when is the
2:04:01 next public or when where does the MMP
2:04:04 go even if we're not meeting just remind
2:04:07 us what's next sure so after today the
2:04:10 MMB will hit the public release in early
2:04:14 July probably that second week in July
2:04:16 then it'll be under consideration or
2:04:21 review for the City Council at their
2:04:23 study session on July 28th
2:04:25 and then right now I'm aiming at August
2:04:29 6th for our next tab meeting um I'll
2:04:32 send out a poll to make sure everybody's
2:04:35 able to so you don't need to tell me now
2:04:38 but just keep that in mind I'm kind of
2:04:40 looking at that date right now and we
2:04:44 probably the third week in August we're
2:04:48 aiming for adoption or the September 8th
2:04:55 Thank You Steven is there any
2:04:57 expectation or desire for any of us to
2:04:59 attend the July 28th meeting
2:05:02 um if you would like to I think I can
2:05:06 have a conversation with you and Cynthia
2:05:07 about whether or not you can share a lot
2:05:11 of the tab as either the staff break you
2:05:15 be part of the staff presentation or you
2:05:17 can be part of public comments leading
2:05:19 into this study session we could talk
2:05:22 about that you're on
2:05:24 but I think having the tab voice at the
2:05:27 study session would be helpful whether
2:05:29 it is part of it coming over as part of
2:05:31 the presentation
2:05:33 okay thank you and
2:05:35 in any case I think that even though
2:05:36 that's not on you know it's not our
2:05:39 meeting I think we should put that
2:05:40 meeting on our calendar July 28th for
2:05:43 City Council
2:05:45 I can send I can send out the
2:05:46 information to all the town members to
2:05:49 that'd be great thank you anything else
2:05:53 any more announcements we're over time
2:05:56 but you guys have all been so patient
2:05:57 wait it's been a long time since we met
2:06:01 so things accumulated is there anything
2:06:04 else may I adjourn I'm going to adjourn
2:06:08 at 8:11 p.m. thank you very much our
2:06:12 next meetings not until August 6th but
2:06:15 the makes you will live on you know in
2:06:20 the bounce
2:06:22 turned everybody