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Transportation Advisory Board

Thursday, June 18, 2020

6:00 PM · 2h 6m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
Mobility Master Plan (MMP) Update ID 1507 14/22
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
Transportation Advisory Board About Created in 2017, this board — yet to be Staff Liaison initiated — will provide additional expertise and Stephen Padua, advice on the City’s transportation system and Senior Transportation Manager goals. Email Membership Regular Members The Transportation Advisory Board will be 2020 – Cynthia Krass comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2020 – Vacant three alternates. Initial terms will be staggered. 2021 – Tom McDonald All members are appointed by the Mayor and 2021 – Nina Milligan subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms 2021 – Kobi Sunday* expire April 30 of the year listed. For more 2022 – Sujata Goel information, see IMC 2.92. 2022 – Stephanie Salemann 2023 – Vacant 2023 – Marisol Visser
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of Jan. 27, 2020
packet pp.5–6
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 01-27-20 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000]
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Election of Chair and Vice Chair
Action · 5 min · packet pp.7
Topics: Elections
Staff report:
Public Works Engineering 1775 – 12th Ave NW | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3400 issaquahwa.gov
4b
Mobility Master Plan (MMP) Schedule
5 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.9–11
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
Review of MMP Progress • Guiding Principles– Early 2019 • Planning Context & Future Needs– All 2019 • Major Policies and Criteria– All 2019 / Early 2020 • Project Needs– Late 2019 / Early 2020 • Outline Needs – Late 2019 / Early 2020
4c
Review - MMP Policies & Prioritization Criteria, (D)
20 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.13–36
Staff report:
Transportation Advisory Board AGENDA ITEMS c) June 18, 2020 Special Meeting Item 03c -Criteria
4e
New – MMP Project List
Discussion · 35 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.69–99
Staff report:
to meet modal network standards
5. REPORTS
5a
Staff Report
5b
Chair Report
5c
Youth Report
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
Next Meeting: To Be Determined
0:04 I think we might be ready
0:09 9a Milligan and I want to welcome you to
0:10 the transportation advisory board
0:12 meeting it's Thursday June 18 2020 we
0:15 are meeting remotely and we have a great
0:18 deal of business this evening so I'm
0:20 looking forward to diving into it I want
0:23 to say that public comments will be
0:25 allowed as they are listed in the agenda
0:28 and you can find the instructions for
0:31 that the easiest way because there's a
0:33 call-in number and a meeting code number
0:35 the easiest way to do that is to go to
0:37 Issaquah wad of or would slash 2902
0:40 forward slash transportation and click
0:43 on our agenda and you'll see the
0:45 instructions right there
0:46 how we will get to the audience comments
0:50 in item number 3
0:54 I wanted to reiterate that we have our
1:00 our board members we have staff and
1:03 we'll be juggling this is the first time
1:06 that I have run a meeting I've been in
1:08 many online meetings in the last three
1:10 months I'm gonna tell you everybody I'll
1:12 test you that's oh please begging for
1:14 forgiveness in advance and for any grace
1:17 and help that you might want to give me
1:19 along the way to make sure this runs
1:20 smoothly but I'll do my best
1:22 so to start off the meeting I'd like to
1:25 call the roll
1:27 the members of the transportation
1:30 advisory board and when I say your name
1:32 unmute and say here and then go ahead
1:36 and mute yourself back again
1:39 Cynthia crass here Tom McDonald
1:50 I see you did you say here
1:55 mom can you hear me
1:58 there you go say stay here right now
2:02 it's not even say it's a hey here and
2:04 let's see if I can hear you I'm gonna
2:07 come back to Tom
2:10 I'm here 90 Milligan Kobe Sunday here so
2:16 yeah I took oil here Stephanie sale men
2:24 and Stephanie's here Emma groobie here
2:28 yeah and claw McDonald are you here
2:36 I'm doing how we can help Tom what do
2:38 you suggest even he's still working on
2:41 his audio right now he's here as best as
2:45 we can we'll catch him up can you hear
2:48 us Tom
2:50 um can you hear me
2:54 not yet I'll try to check in with them
2:57 later that sound okay
3:00 you
3:03 yep go ahead Niner okay the first item
3:08 on the agenda is the approval of the
3:12 minutes and the estate to January 27th
3:15 2020 everybody had a chance to read them
3:18 and do I have a motion to approve the
3:22 minutes of January 27 May 20 and do it
3:26 yourself and say so much you derive a
3:30 second second excellent I think that was
3:34 Cynthia and Emma yeah and I'll call the
3:39 roll and you can vote yay or nay along
3:42 with the motion of approving the minutes
3:44 of January 27 Cynthia crass yeah
3:48 MacDonald
3:51 he said he
3:52 sup yes saw that 9 ml again yes
3:56 ob Sunday
3:58 yeah yes Ouya - Goyal yes definitely yes
4:05 and Emma agrees yes that's unanimous
4:11 favor thank you very much
4:16 ready to move on to the next item which
4:18 is the audience comments public comments
4:23 I know we actually don't have anybody
4:27 called in for public comment but
4:29 Cynthia's noted that she she was like to
4:31 actually speak for public comment okay
4:36 yes and I'm I would also like to her
4:39 housekeeping remind everybody to
4:41 announce who you are your name and when
4:43 you begin to speak say your name this is
4:46 so-and-so this is not a Milligan and
4:48 blah blah blah and then say your thing
4:52 sounds good Cynthia I'll call on you now
4:54 and you have the floor okay
4:57 my name is Cynthia crass and I live in
4:59 downtown Issaquah I just want to say a
5:01 few words about what's been happening
5:04 lately the killing of George Floyd has
5:07 set off a response like we've never seen
5:08 before which white people are finally
5:11 beginning to reevaluate what it means to
5:13 be racist and what it means to be
5:15 anti-racist I'm late to the party and
5:18 new with this probably know less about
5:20 this than anybody but I think it's
5:23 important to think about this a little
5:24 bit we don't need to be intentionally
5:26 carrying out acts against individuals to
5:29 be perpetuating systemic racism much of
5:33 the guiding language in our MMP includes
5:35 aspirational comments about achieving
5:36 equity in general we need to examine our
5:39 work on transportation through the lens
5:41 of systemic racism and seek to
5:43 understand how our transportation system
5:45 contributes to it and to be more
5:47 explicit about racial inequity there's
5:50 much literature on the topic and I
5:52 suggest that we all try to get more
5:54 educated on this topic I don't have any
5:56 specific literature to recommend but I
5:58 found a well Joyce is just by searching
6:00 racism and transportation in a google
6:03 search there's a lot of material there
6:05 and I think like to really encourage us
6:08 to think deeply about that thank you
6:13 Cinthia
6:15 any other audience comments Stephen did
6:17 you give any other emails or messaging
6:23 therefore close public comments at 6:00
6:27 11:00 p.m.
6:29 if you're ready we'll go into the
6:31 regular agenda items for this evening
6:32 first of which is the election of the
6:34 chair and vice-chair and for the record
6:37 I'll read in to from the agenda packet
6:40 what it is we're doing as required by
6:43 the transportation Advisory boards rules
6:45 and regulations article 3 section 1
6:48 officers the tab is required to take
6:51 action on the chair and vice chair
6:53 positions each chair and vice chair will
6:55 serve a one-year term which ends on
6:58 April 30th of each year the board does
7:00 not have to has not set limits for
7:03 consecutive terms at the start of the
7:06 tab meeting I will solicit nominate
7:08 nominations that this section and
7:10 conduct an election for both offices due
7:15 to this year's unique circumstances
7:17 which were which required cancelling
7:20 multiple board meetings the city staff
7:23 had suggested that I 9ml again and
7:27 Cynthia crass continued to serve in the
7:29 seats that were in and we have both
7:31 spoken with the staff and said that we
7:33 would be willing to do that and at this
7:35 moment though I would call for a
7:38 nomination for chair and vice-chair
7:44 I I'd like to nominate Nina and Cynthia
7:49 her chair and course air vice chair
7:52 thank you sue yatta are there any other
7:56 nominations this evening
8:02 we have one nomination to vote on and
8:05 we'll consider that a slate
8:07 officer as 9 and Milligan as chair
8:09 Cynthia Crassus vice-chair so you can
8:12 vote for both at the same time and will
8:15 do as we had before I'll call the roll
8:17 and unmute yourself and then make your
8:20 vote game a or abstain
8:22 Cynthia crafts yay
8:25 Tom McDonald
8:30 did you do that time
8:32 okay thank you 90 Milligan yay
8:35 I'm sorry Tom voted in the affirmative
8:38 visually Coby Sunday
8:43 yay
8:45 you know see yata coil yay
8:49 groobie yay excellent that's that's it
8:54 that was unanimous I know will be your
8:57 chair since he'll be your vice chair for
9:00 the next year thank you everybody
9:03 think this will be fun Cynthia do you
9:05 have anything to say in that regard
9:08 no just that's it's always a task that's
9:12 a bit easier when you have really great
9:13 staff so thank you to Stephen I wouldn't
9:16 have volunteered to go around another
9:18 round if we didn't have such a capable
9:20 competent staff so thank you
9:23 and of course Nina as the chair is a lot
9:27 easier to be this chair Thanks
9:30 well I certainly second what you said
9:32 about working with Steven and staff you
9:35 make our lives much easier and that's a
9:38 lot of work and really appreciate it
9:41 hey with that I think we can move on to
9:43 the next agenda item
9:45 the mobility master plan schedule and
9:47 for that we have Steven to do a senior
9:49 transportation planner in the city of
9:51 Issaquah where is your Steven all right
9:55 thank you so I am going to move to
10:00 sharing my screen now so if you want to
10:04 go back to the full view I can stop for
10:07 discussion just let me know and then I
10:09 will stop sharing my screen so we can
10:12 kind of go to the floor group discussion
10:19 so for the first item I'm going to
10:20 quickly give an update on our the master
10:23 plan schedule
10:28 can everybody see my screen now
10:32 you
10:38 so really quick I'm gonna go through
10:39 what we've gone what we've done to
10:42 develop them the mobility master plan in
10:46 early 2019 we all work together and work
10:50 in tend conversations with community to
10:52 work in developing our guiding
10:55 principles in all of 2019 we the staff
11:00 project team worked with our consultant
11:02 to develop the planning context and
11:04 future needs reports want some of the
11:07 materials that you had reviewed before
11:08 tonight we also spent a lot of time in
11:11 2019 and then some of the time in early
11:14 2020 to talk about a lot of the major
11:16 policies and criteria the other
11:18 materials that you saw tonight and then
11:21 with the project needs we had some
11:25 discussions when we were talking about
11:26 the major policies and gaps in our
11:29 system that helped informed a lot of the
11:31 needs in terms of the type of policies
11:34 we're going to use to identify new
11:35 projects and then we also had some some
11:40 short discussions about outline needs
11:42 when it comes to what the mobility
11:43 master plan should look like we we did
11:46 talk about items that you were expecting
11:50 to see in the mobility master plan but
11:52 also stuff that you felt like you didn't
11:54 actually need to see
12:00 with everything going on we've had to
12:03 cancel a lot of meetings so we've
12:06 actually had to make a huge update to
12:08 our schedule and it all starts with
12:10 having our meeting tonight being able to
12:13 give you time to review a lot of the
12:15 materials before we move to a full
12:19 public release of a draft in early July
12:21 and then that would be helping prepare
12:24 us for a July 28th study session with
12:27 the City Council and then in late August
12:29 early September we're gonna be moving
12:31 for City Council adoption the reason why
12:34 there's two timeframes there is because
12:37 we're really trying to aim for late
12:39 August but if we receive a lot of
12:41 feedback behind making edits for the
12:43 mobility master plan will probably be
12:45 aiming for that early September time
12:49 the
12:50 for today what I'm hoping to do when
12:53 we're going through all the materials is
12:54 to briefly talk about all all the items
12:59 that we've talked about before and with
13:02 all the majority of the items that you
13:04 reviewed for tonight you actually have
13:07 had conversations about what went into
13:09 them this is just the latest reiteration
13:14 of what we had talked about with
13:19 we've also a few weeks ago formed a tab
13:22 ad hoc committee to help with going
13:25 through some of these materials because
13:26 we're not going to be able to go into
13:27 very fine detail of what the wording is
13:31 how things look and what I'm hoping to
13:33 do is that have all the tab members
13:36 speak tonight and give directions in
13:38 this ad hoc committee so I can work a
13:40 little bit closer with them and refine a
13:42 lot of the materials before we get to
13:44 the public release and also with after
13:47 the public release when we're just
13:48 continuing the development of the final
13:51 draft you will also get the opportunity
13:55 and early July to comment on the full
13:57 draft that gets released and you also
14:01 have the public comment period for the
14:02 July 28th study session when City
14:05 Council
14:05 although all the McCaul the feedback
14:07 that weren't collecting tonight and all
14:08 the food that were collecting from the
14:10 community in early July will go to the
14:12 City Council and in late July and then
14:15 right now I'm working on trying to
14:16 schedule a early August board meeting so
14:20 that we could come back together I can
14:23 share with you all the feedback that
14:24 we've collected or receive from the
14:26 committee around the mobility master
14:28 plan and we could give our board can
14:33 give their recommendation to the City
14:35 Council meaning for the adoption whether
14:38 in late August or early September
14:41 you
14:45 questions before I move on to the next
14:46 agenda item
14:54 you
14:57 not seeing any so ina
15:05 thank you sorry I had to step out for a
15:08 moment my internet crashed Thank You
15:10 Steven and seeing no questions my dad
15:13 cleared but I don't see anything since I
15:15 got back in we'll move on to the next
15:18 agenda item the review of the mobility
15:21 master plan policies and prioritization
15:23 criteria this is a discussion item so
15:27 after Steven gives us a presentation
15:29 we'll have an opportunity to discuss
15:31 these things I might mention here this
15:35 will be a fairly lengthy presentation
15:39 and you might want to ask a question
15:42 while Steven goes along I'll try to
15:44 follow the chat and I think Steven will
15:47 too
15:47 let's see if somebody needs to chime in
15:49 are the way through or do you want to
15:50 just take little breaks at certain
15:52 sections so actually what I'm going to
15:54 do because a lot of the these first
15:57 items we've seen before I'm just gonna
16:00 briefly describe what they are and then
16:02 I'm gonna open the floor for all the tab
16:04 members to ask any quickly refined
16:06 questions or provide comment there's no
16:08 actual presentation for this but I won't
16:10 I can go actually go through the
16:12 criteria if that helps
16:16 an overview and help since we haven't
16:18 met since January and it would help our
16:20 audience as well sure
16:24 so for the project valuation criteria
16:28 and I'll share my screen so I just bring
16:30 it up
16:32 the project
16:35 there is
16:40 so the criteria is one of the main items
16:43 that we have seen before we first saw
16:46 late last summer and then again in the
16:49 fall when when we were talking about
16:51 refining the policies but also trying to
16:55 figure out what our priorities are the
16:56 way the privatisation criteria will be
16:59 used is to score the project list so we
17:03 actually have a prioritized project list
17:05 in the draft plan itself but it also
17:08 helps us look at new projects that we
17:10 come up with the future to determine how
17:13 well it's meeting our guiding principles
17:19 instead of trying to go through word
17:21 word-for-word train edits I'm hoping
17:26 that the tab members can provide a lot
17:28 more feedback to the ad hoc committee in
17:31 direction if if something doesn't seem
17:33 right or something needs any type of
17:35 edits
17:37 Stephen missus 9a Milligan can you
17:40 remind us in this particular context
17:43 what are the steps towards approval and
17:45 that timeframe for us to get those that
17:47 feedback to the ad hoc committee or to
17:50 you
17:52 right now it's just providing feedback
17:54 tonight
17:59 so right now I'll open the fort for
18:02 everybody to talk about any of the items
18:04 that either stand out for questions or
18:06 comments it helps if you say in chat
18:10 that you have a comment or a question
18:11 because then I can call on you if you
18:14 haven't is there anyone who would wish
18:17 to speak and remember to introduce
18:19 yourself when you begin
18:26 I'm not seeing anyone Steven but I have
18:28 a couple questions sure
18:29 let me ask them they've inspired some
18:32 others in in the criteria of scoring
18:37 questions there's a discussion about
18:40 capacity on arterioles and I just wanted
18:43 to understand the definition is that you
18:47 get it you get points for increasing
18:49 capacity on arterioles you get four
18:51 points does arterioles include collector
18:54 arterioles
19:01 even I'm assuming this is Kendra
19:04 Breeland I'm with the consultant team
19:06 Dyna I don't actually have an answer to
19:10 that but I'd be happy to try to see if I
19:12 can get an answer to that
19:14 during the meeting or we will follow up
19:17 shortly it's a really good question do
19:20 you have a preference one way or the
19:22 other that might help us as well well
19:26 they are there seem to be quite
19:27 different roads and I would I would like
19:31 to know that in many cases without
19:36 looking at the map right now is in this
19:38 meeting it does not appear to me that
19:42 collector arterioles should have
19:43 increased capacity but I'm not I'm not
19:45 looking at the full inventory so I'm not
19:47 sure but that's kind of the way I was
19:48 leaving the reason for my question I'm
19:51 gonna look at it I suspect that we're
19:53 not using collector materials if it is
19:55 like true arterioles and above is what
19:58 we're looking at the capacity because
20:00 those are more those are the facilities
20:02 that really are people more regionally
20:05 estimations but we will pin to that and
20:08 either respond back during the meeting
20:10 or shortly thereafter
20:14 Kendra and I see that Coby has a
20:17 question would you like to have the
20:18 floor Coby are you ready
20:21 yes so my name is coby I was just
20:24 wondering this isn't a concern just a
20:26 general question I'm looking at the
20:28 criteria there's like 72 points and
20:35 um we're
20:37 singing injuries is only like is only 18
20:39 points so if there was a project that
20:41 might not be the most efficient but
20:43 would reduce injuries dramatically do
20:45 you think there's enough point
20:47 allocation towards those projects to get
20:49 them evaluated a high enough level to
20:52 actually get the project's done
20:58 you
21:01 I need a mute yes when we've had the
21:05 discussions about how to best balance
21:07 the points for the criteria we did
21:10 actually increase the the scoring to
21:13 where it is now because originally we
21:16 were trying to have it balanced with the
21:17 next criteria down but we added more
21:19 points because we we understood that
21:21 safety was a little bit higher priority
21:23 if the board would like to look at
21:26 increasing now we can take a look at
21:29 that and to rebalance the scoring
21:36 nobody does that answer your question
21:39 thank you
21:41 and yes are there any other questions I
21:44 don't see anyone in the chat but is
21:46 there anyone just
21:50 nope I don't see anyone I want to thank
21:53 you Kobe for that question because that
21:54 relates to another question that I had
21:57 had Stephen and I had talked about how
21:59 do we score when you haven't had an
22:01 accident yet you know you would over the
22:06 course of time because it's a recognized
22:09 unsafe situation and so he's working on
22:13 adding to the scoring an opportunity for
22:16 recognition of public outcry or public
22:22 comments about the safety of a have a
22:25 intersection or of a place
22:28 I have one more comment for the board
22:30 and I'm gonna do this myself and just
22:33 didn't have enough time to really fully
22:34 do this but while I was looking at this
22:37 chart what I thought would be helpful to
22:38 me and I'm just gonna say it out loud in
22:40 case it's helpful to others is that
22:41 we've got our principals on one side and
22:43 then you go through the chart and you go
22:44 down the path to how many points do you
22:46 get for that and I think if I looked
22:50 back so the principal and see if those
22:53 points correspond with the principal and
22:57 that will give you a good filter to see
23:02 whether the scoring which is the the
23:04 ultimate product satisfies a principal
23:09 that we're trying to achieve continue to
23:14 look at those and soon Stephen your
23:15 feedback after the meeting so that he
23:18 can finish that up
23:20 Stephen then are we ready to move on to
23:22 the next part of this section of the
23:26 agenda so now I can jump into the
23:31 policies yeah
23:37 so for the policies very similar to the
23:39 criteria we looked at them almost
23:41 parallel with the whole development of
23:44 this entire plan we and I'll just show
23:48 the front page of the memo
23:58 following the development of the guiding
24:00 principles we jumped into policy
24:03 development we initially started with
24:06 modal policies to talk about how we want
24:09 to approach different modes of travel or
24:11 different options travel of getting
24:13 around the city and then we moved into
24:15 more overarching policies a lot of what
24:19 you read in the memo while you remember
24:21 from our meetings which we've had we had
24:23 three meetings talking about the
24:25 policies late last summer late last fall
24:28 and then earlier this year we kind of
24:30 had a follow-up discussion on the
24:32 policies that are going master plan the
24:35 overarching policies though a little bit
24:37 different than the modal policies where
24:39 it's not just one particular mode of
24:42 travel that we're looking at and
24:44 particularly with safety and vision zero
24:46 it it really looks at all the different
24:49 modes of how people get around in pirate
24:51 and we're really looking at how to
24:53 prioritize safety under that overarching
24:55 policy and then additionally we also
24:59 talked about policies on climate change
25:01 and health and equity that unfortunately
25:04 we didn't have ready for this meeting
25:05 book they will that language will be
25:08 available in in the draft and to talk
25:10 about how that relates to transportation
25:12 even further so
25:17 just like the criteria I'm just doing
25:19 the brief review of what we've done and
25:23 a lot of the things that we talked about
25:26 I'm hoping that we can if there are
25:28 questions or comments we can point it to
25:31 the ad hoc committee to look at things a
25:33 little bit further
25:37 nine effect to you okay Thank You Steven
25:40 Oh so again I'm going to look for
25:43 questions or comments on the board on
25:46 this section the policies memo which
25:50 included not only safety but different
25:55 modes biped all those things and I have
25:59 a few questions but I'm looking for
26:00 someone to say in the chat that they
26:03 have a question or a comment
26:09 well until I see one I'll jump in and
26:12 ask a question Stephen on the safety
26:16 section we were just talking about how
26:19 in the criteria the criteria have
26:21 something for it identifying a an
26:24 intersection or a facility that is
26:26 unsafe and so in here that sort of
26:31 language would also have to be in this
26:33 policy too right when we make changes
26:36 they have to go back up to this
26:38 narrative
26:41 yes
26:45 waiting for somebody else to have a
26:47 question I have a few if you don't
26:51 I'm gonna go into pedestrian mode and
26:54 ask for you to remind me under was this
27:00 tr7
27:01 what what cheer it was chair - how did
27:05 we come to the standard of a
27:08 quarter-mile of sidewalks to a
27:13 destination
27:15 the quarter mile is a standard of
27:18 measurement for determining what's
27:20 actually walkable but when there's been
27:24 studies around how far people are
27:26 actually comfortable walking for a mile
27:27 is actually the distance that is used
27:34 basically around the country it's part
27:35 of the knack dough recommended or
27:37 federal recommendations related to what
27:39 we want to be welcome
27:43 yeah great Thank You Steven so you got
27:45 to have a question you have to introduce
27:47 yourself and you know the floor hi I'm
27:49 Sujata Goyal
27:51 so I actually also had a question about
27:53 the pedestrian edit and it could be that
27:56 I may be mixing things up but so in this
27:59 one it talks about so in our policy Tier
28:03 one streets have destroyed facilities on
28:06 both sides and then same with tier two
28:10 and I can't remember
28:12 so Newport you know near where Bellevue
28:17 is that part of Newport is that
28:19 considered Tier one like what size of a
28:23 street is that I'm curious and there's a
28:26 reason I'm asking something curious I
28:28 can't remember but I remember so right
28:31 now the way it's supposed to be built we
28:33 were going to put sidewalks on both
28:35 sides of the street and then at one of
28:38 our public comment periods one of the
28:40 RET you know a resident came and said if
28:43 you try to put sidewalks on both sides
28:45 of the street we're gonna create
28:46 significant environmental impact and can
28:50 we do sidewalks on one side and a
28:53 natural trail on the other and you know
28:56 I so we you know looking at the
29:00 conditions on the ground
29:01 we felt it made sense to require the
29:06 sidewalks on one side of the street and
29:10 not put them on the other side and I
29:13 guess what we're I'm getting to with
29:16 this is in these policies you know and
29:21 you know people love it or hate it do we
29:24 have and they are policies but as staff
29:27 you're gonna look at these and you're
29:29 gonna say okay in this situation I'm
29:31 supposed to do X Y do I have that
29:33 capacity so I guess the question is
29:36 right now at the level at which these
29:38 policies are being written they provide
29:42 some guidance but they still are
29:45 I mean they're they're still pretty bad
29:47 there's still you know kind of maybe
29:50 5,000 7,000 square-foot level and I'm
29:52 just wondering do they provide you all
29:54 enough guidance that if a resident came
29:58 to you a staff level who's trying to
30:00 determine the design just say hey this
30:03 is the scenario would you feel that you
30:05 have enough guidance to move away from
30:10 something that these policies are saying
30:12 based on the conditions on the ground
30:14 and if not is there a is there aspect
30:19 you know is there an additional tool you
30:20 need is there some sort of
30:22 decision-making framework you need for
30:24 things that don't fit in the box nicely
30:27 that we want to add to the policies to
30:30 allow for transparent and flexible
30:34 decision-making inside the organization
30:37 to be able to implement these
30:42 that was a really long question I
30:43 apologize
30:47 be given it's yours to answer Thank You
30:50 Sujata okay it sounds like there's two
30:53 parts to your question the first beam do
30:56 we have what we need to answer the
30:58 question particularly then we'll use
31:00 Newport as an example but the answer is
31:02 yes and if a new resident were to come
31:05 to us and ask us is it going to be one
31:08 facility or what type of facility or is
31:10 it - two facilities in what type the
31:13 answer is it's gonna be one type of
31:14 facility for that major arterial outside
31:17 of the central his qua area the type of
31:21 facility will be based on the context on
31:25 the ground so four areas of Newport
31:27 where you have a little more density of
31:30 neighborhood being developed we're
31:32 probably going to be looking at a wider
31:33 facility like accommodate that type of
31:36 pedestrian volume if it's a little more
31:39 spread out where you have one driveway
31:42 going up the hill and all the residences
31:46 are up the hill and not necessarily
31:47 directly on Newport it's probably not
31:50 going to be as wide of a facility
31:51 because if the demand really isn't there
31:55 almost the communities is asking for it
31:58 now Newport is kind of unique because we
32:01 also have connections trail system we
32:03 have the mountain town Greenway Trail so
32:08 the facility is going to be reflecting
32:10 that - so actually on once that really
32:13 could be 10 12 foot wide walkway of some
32:17 kind we're multi-purpose trail to be
32:21 able to provide that now whether or not
32:23 we have enough and then the other part
32:25 of your question was do we have enough
32:26 tools to make changes or be a little
32:28 more transparent my answer is yes but
32:32 I'll ask Kendra to chip in on because
32:36 we've talked about a lot of different
32:37 policy other direction we can go with
32:39 the posts at least the language that we
32:40 have so I appreciate that question can
32:43 you guys hear me thank you sure okay
32:46 cool made me feel I'm almost like just
32:51 left my mic on they don't like the
32:53 beeping every time I come off I feel
32:55 like that's distracting for you all the
32:59 I think
33:00 you know Steven you know I appreciate
33:02 you we're developing policy citywide so
33:05 that makes it tricky and I think Sujata
33:08 I think you're you bring up a good point
33:10 that there are different local contexts
33:12 that exist within the city that do
33:15 necessitate different types of
33:16 treatments something that I think would
33:19 be an enhancement that we could make to
33:20 the policy framework based on the input
33:22 or receiving tonight would be to write
33:25 in kind of just some some more
33:27 discretionary language so then this is
33:29 the general intent however you know the
33:33 staff do have the discretion to modify
33:37 you know in certain cases where more
33:39 warranted that you can provide an
33:41 equivalent facility I think you're
33:42 providing a great example where we might
33:44 have a policy that suggests something on
33:47 both sides of the street but maybe you
33:48 can provide something that's much more
33:49 gracious on one side of the street in
33:51 some locations so we have worked with
33:56 cities to develop that sort of more it's
33:59 a flexible language and I think this is
34:01 warranted in that case and I would
34:03 actually point to the vehicular policies
34:05 we've already developed kind of that
34:07 level of flexibility so I think we could
34:09 enhance the pedestrian facilities to
34:11 provide similar levels of flexibility so
34:13 I appreciate that input that's something
34:15 is we're moving see that I'm sure showed
34:17 you we've got a very aggressive schedule
34:20 which we're excited about so I'm excited
34:23 about getting to an M&P with you guys
34:24 but these are kind of some of the touch
34:26 points that was really missed over these
34:28 last several months or what happens yeah
34:31 and I think you know ultimately like
34:33 when all of this is adopted we just want
34:35 to ensure that all of these
34:38 conversations etc provided the tools
34:41 that staff would need as they're sort of
34:44 going through the you know the slog of
34:46 designing and implementing projects that
34:49 when there is that gray area or that
34:52 variation they have the documentation
34:55 and the tools so if there is flexibility
34:58 like in our auto policy if there are
35:00 places where their flexibility is is
35:02 necessary being clear about what kind of
35:04 criteria we would you know like if it's
35:06 significant environmental impact or
35:08 super sloppy or cost for a little bit of
35:11 or you know whatever it may be that
35:13 we can provide that guidance and the
35:16 very you know and the circumstances
35:18 under which those variations could apply
35:24 excellent thank you sir Jetta and think
35:27 you can turn on Steven I'm not seeing
35:29 anyone else chime in in the chat window
35:32 you can say question or comment over
35:35 there and I'll call on you I have just a
35:38 couple more questions I'll ask well I
35:39 give people an opportunity to get their
35:43 courage up this Steven aura Kendra the
35:46 question has to do with when we have
35:48 facilities in the policy for having
35:51 sidewalks on one side in the case of
35:54 Newport that's unique because it's an
35:56 open space on the other side but in some
35:59 cases there's a sidewalk on one side and
36:02 there are homes or streets or you know
36:04 other facilities on both sides it just
36:08 doesn't have the it doesn't qualify for
36:10 sidewalks on both sides if you only have
36:13 sidewalks on one side how do you handle
36:16 safely crossing and as there are
36:18 corresponding crossings policy for that
36:24 even your muted yep
36:29 thank you for bringing that matter
36:30 because it's important to highlight that
36:32 we have actually had those conversations
36:34 of updating the city's cross crossing
36:37 guidelines and all our crossing policies
36:40 and so that is updating that was with
36:45 the intent to kind of go with these
36:47 pedestrian way policy updates as well so
36:51 when you have sidewalk on one side in
36:54 the Unity crossing the looking at the
36:57 context of you know the road type what
37:00 the with the line the visuals are with -
37:03 I how far can you see is there
37:06 streetlights like that all is taken to
37:09 account of the type of crossing or
37:11 crossing enhancements that are going to
37:12 be me be able to allow people to cross
37:15 that road comfortably
37:23 thank you even looking for more our
37:26 people have questions I have a bunch of
37:27 questions and some of them are just
37:29 kinda technical about whether they
37:30 there's an error and a map or something
37:33 like that those kind of housekeeping
37:34 things I'll just keep for later but I
37:37 would ask about the let me ask about the
37:43 bicycle facility man to see if I inspire
37:45 something out of one of my colleagues
37:47 like so we can't hear you can we but one
37:52 of my questions is
37:55 exemplified in the bike nap that the
37:57 Issaquah fell city road going eastbound
38:01 east like some young boulevard is
38:04 considered a bike route
38:08 I would never ride my bike on that and
38:10 so it's red of course because it's got a
38:12 low level of safety right but how would
38:18 you ever and why would you ever when
38:20 there are alternatives even upgrade that
38:23 road to have a low low I'm you know high
38:25 level of safety feeling me again with
38:28 that metric goes
38:31 of traffic stress is the term and I know
38:36 you're very correct it is an extremely
38:39 high stress facility I think what we
38:43 struggled with as a team is identifying
38:46 all parallel alternatives so the walk
38:50 and roll plan was actually I think the
38:52 plan that identified that as a priority
38:55 corridor I agree with you that the cost
38:59 is a city to develop that into something
39:02 that's welcoming for really any
39:05 population is pretty astronomical so I
39:10 don't think we have any easy answers on
39:12 that and that's why we've identified it
39:13 as a very high stress facility within
39:16 and and quite candidly that's why we
39:21 don't have super aggressive measures to
39:24 fix it because we haven't heard that as
39:26 a priority
39:34 Thank You Kendra yeah and Tom
39:37 I don't think we're able to hear you do
39:39 you want to try to say something
39:41 hi this is Tina city clerk Steven can
39:45 you unmute the call in number for Tom I
39:49 think you are overriding him there we go
39:53 okay Tom your phone line jimena yes we
39:59 can perfect okay that's why I'm Ben elf
40:02 okay I'm going to ask one more favor I'm
40:05 going to ask Steven can you mute the
40:08 video screen for Tom so that we don't
40:11 have any shows so I connected without
40:15 audio when I came back in Oh perfect
40:17 Suzy oh you should be turned off on the
40:19 computer great we'll let you manage your
40:22 volume and Mike on the phone line and
40:26 Stephen go refrain from using that so
40:29 that we don't double mute you thank you
40:32 now yes and I'll be myself fun but I'm
40:35 not talking perfect thank you
40:38 and tom did you have anything that you
40:40 were just dying to say that you haven't
40:42 had a chance yet
40:43 yeah I'll just delete the typing and
40:46 we're talking about Newport Road
40:52 and I agree with you the dangerous road
40:54 I usually write on the inside of the
40:55 curb line going up so I kind of feel
40:58 that a it's a great location to have a
41:01 cycle track from 900 all the way up to a
41:05 lake Montebello Bard put it all on one
41:07 side
41:14 thank you Tom I don't see anyone else
41:18 unless Cynthia shake your head did you
41:20 want to say anything you just agreeing
41:21 no I had put some things in the chat are
41:24 they not coming up no I'm just wondering
41:27 if you would like to state your comment
41:29 please oh okay
41:32 so this is Cynthia and I had a comment
41:36 about level of traffic stress but before
41:39 I give that comment I just want to say
41:41 that it is a little bit challenging
41:43 because we have a lot of documents and
41:45 we have a lot of overlapping content and
41:47 the video call makes it hard to toggle
41:50 between the different documents so it's
41:53 hard to know exactly when to make what
41:55 comment so I'll just throw this out
41:58 there and I don't know which memo it
42:00 belongs which thing it belongs in but I
42:03 did have some notes when I reviewed the
42:05 materials forgotten which document it
42:07 was the level of traffic stress
42:09 regarding so that map I'm gonna look at
42:13 it now so my comments about that were I
42:17 don't think anything is steep so I see
42:21 Park Drive so I'm not sure if this is
42:23 the right time for this but when I did
42:25 study that map and I do write all these
42:27 streets and I don't think anything as
42:28 steep as Park Drive should ever be green
42:33 I mean I ride a lot and that's a scary
42:38 are you referring to sentence we can
42:41 look at the same one Clark Park Drive
42:43 coming down from Highland you know when
42:46 you're coming good the pictures a figure
42:49 three a level of traffic stress on bike
42:51 priority corridors it's so there were I
42:57 had a couple comments about this the
42:59 rating the LTS rating or whatever the
43:01 the the actual quantifiable number so I
43:05 don't feel like anything that steep
43:08 should ever be anything less than a
43:13 three
43:14 and then I think some of them that are
43:16 threes are actually bores or just like
43:21 they're just terrible places to ride and
43:23 one of them is State Route nine hundred
43:26 and another one is the sunset
43:28 interchange which is one of my big pet
43:32 peeves because it connects to a lot of
43:34 green and that is the intersection when
43:37 you are at sunset and you have to cross
43:39 over a Nike it's treacherous and I see a
43:44 little tiny red dot there between the
43:47 green and yeah around the highway there
43:51 but anyway there
43:52 that's a terrible so I'm just wondering
43:56 if just like we have like level of
43:59 service basically failure it feels like
44:03 we should acknowledge some places where
44:05 it's just never going to be a great
44:07 place to ride
44:10 like maybe it's a koala fall city road
44:13 but some of these other ones anyway so I
44:14 had some those were my specific comments
44:17 on the level of traffic stress is that
44:21 clear enough I agree with the 900 I was
44:25 looking for the sunset one that you were
44:28 referring to
44:30 so as you travel westbound on sunset and
44:34 you make your way across I 90 at that
44:39 ring you pick up the trail there the sea
44:45 can see if you can you zoom into that
44:47 area
44:49 you won't be able to see what the
44:52 problem is
44:53 it's basically area it's a it's a design
44:59 on both sides of a 90s you're trying to
45:06 and I noticed there's a little red dot
45:08 or a little red extended dot and that is
45:12 I'm not sure what that refers to but
45:15 that whole thing is quite treacherous so
45:18 I'm not sure if the intent to that it's
45:19 for everybody to go underneath I 90 or
45:22 underneath the chamber and take the
45:25 trail all of it to the top and that
45:26 would be the main by corridor going up
45:28 to the top and I'm telling you that
45:30 Raylan not on the street
45:31 I'm telling you can you can't the trail
45:33 doesn't go all the way you cross on it
45:35 on the surface that goes over i-90 and
45:40 it's so it's sort of partially captured
45:44 with a little bit red but that whole
45:45 thing is pretty red yeah the trail
45:49 essentially ends at the crosswalk over
45:51 the i-90 off-ramp in the crosswalk dumps
45:57 you right into a blind intersection
45:59 where people are coming off i-90 if
46:01 they're heading up to the Sammamish
46:02 plateau they're making a channel turn
46:04 going right and there's a bunch of
46:07 bushes and every single time I cross
46:10 that I am terrified okay I'm not sure if
46:14 that's what that little red thing is but
46:15 on both sides of it it's it's terrible
46:19 and that's when I think that should be
46:21 fixed but then nine I made a point like
46:24 why would you descend this cool Fall
46:26 City Road where there's so many other
46:27 options and so there may be ones that we
46:30 just decided not to it doesn't make
46:35 sense to invest there but
46:37 any rate the main point I wanted to make
46:39 was I don't think that anything that has
46:41 a steep grade should be wonderful you
46:43 and then I think that nine hundred
46:47 should be four and maybe the set section
46:53 I don't know anyway
46:56 okay so I'll get together with Farrah
46:59 piers that look a little bit closer to
47:00 make sure that the grades are being
47:03 reflected on
47:05 and I think the only other point that I
47:07 would add to that Stephen and I think
47:09 this been made although it wasn't
47:10 stressed as much it's just interchange
47:12 is in general are just really scary
47:14 places to bite so I do want to stress at
47:17 the level of traffic stress is a bad way
47:21 of saying that but anyways that
47:22 methodology it uses certain variables on
47:27 the whole for segments it does pretty
47:29 good job helping you to get a good sense
47:32 of you know how does it feel from a
47:34 bicycle standpoint again unfortunately
47:37 we can't bike every single street in
47:39 Issaquah and give it a unique score
47:42 based on that though that would be best
47:44 practice but again that's not you know
47:46 within our scope of work
47:47 however what I would say is you know I
47:51 think for interchanges there's a lot of
47:53 other stressful factors that aren't
47:55 being captured in the methodology and I
47:58 think it would be good to recognize and
48:01 your point on grade as well take it I
48:04 believe we put some some consideration
48:07 into grades but we'll look into that
48:09 must even a little more closely okay one
48:13 last comment and that's um I think that
48:16 one thing that's not reflected on the
48:17 Newport way is it has really good
48:18 line-of-sight
48:19 it's not a terrible place to ride a bike
48:21 because of the long stretch of
48:24 straightaway it's got very good
48:25 line-of-sight I don't have any problem
48:26 riding I would call it a more of a three
48:28 or four Cynthia thank you did that
48:35 capture the question you put in the
48:38 queue that I messed up earlier in the
48:40 thank you agree the long stretch from
48:46 pretty much sunset all the way down that
48:50 portion okay
48:52 I'd agree I have a question for
48:55 everybody and that is that it seems that
48:58 the LTS chart is based on the walk and
49:01 roll priority bike corridors and one of
49:04 the things that were I'm hearing myself
49:06 and some others say is that we're
49:08 questioning he where a doors that were
49:13 outlined in the walk and roll plan what
49:16 would you do if you you know
49:19 basing this on an earlier policy but if
49:21 the earlier policy is faulty like the
49:23 elsevier out what it was he then
49:26 even you want try to answer that
49:33 I would say well then we go to update
49:36 the rock and roll band well we should
49:38 take another look at all the corridors
49:41 but that wasn't for hauling the Walker
49:45 roll that wasn't a part of this the
49:47 scope of this project this was primarily
49:49 looking at all the priorities in the
49:51 policy so that is something that we can
49:53 take a look at ultimately because the
49:55 Walker role plan was done several years
49:57 ago I mean it's gonna need another look
49:59 following the adoption of the mobility
50:01 master plan
50:06 all right thank you I don't any further
50:08 sorry this is Tom when you say take
50:11 another look does that mean looking at
50:12 all the connections or type of
50:14 connections
50:16 yes
50:20 you
50:22 hey anybody else any further questions
50:24 Tom do you have any more
50:29 no I do not Stephen I think we might be
50:33 able to move from this item if you want
50:37 to summarize a little bit before you go
50:39 into the next item the next item is the
50:43 mill building master plan outline when
50:46 I'm in context and future needs
50:47 assessment Cynthia has one last question
50:51 actually oh there you go
50:54 had my head down readin it's her to
50:57 monitor chat and renovating together at
50:59 the same time um so again honestly I
51:02 don't know where to put this well
51:04 there's a lot of different documents and
51:05 I'm just gonna lay it out there and
51:09 that's I can tie it to some of the
51:12 specific documents um I made some notes
51:16 when I was reading them but there's
51:18 really kind of an overall thing that
51:20 touches a few different things it's in
51:21 the policy memo about transportation and
51:23 about parking and I want to know if and
51:28 again I think we've seen a lot of these
51:30 materials this may be a new thought and
51:32 I've missed it in the past again
51:35 it's hard to keep track but what I want
51:37 to know is for transit that's outside
51:42 Sound Transit do we have any influence
51:45 over the Park & Ride facilities that
51:49 would be around those because I think we
51:55 really want to examine the
52:00 there's several it touches several
52:01 things including equity about investing
52:04 in parking structures around transit
52:07 there's a lot of I just remember in
52:09 planning school a lot of literature
52:11 around what happens to big transit areas
52:17 when there's park and rides for example
52:20 versus other kinds of development around
52:22 and I think that if we're serious about
52:25 equity and we're serious about you know
52:29 climate change and carbon emissions and
52:32 all those things and we should seriously
52:33 take a look at whether we want Park and
52:36 Ride facilities at new light rail I'm
52:40 not sure where to hitch consider what
52:42 different hooks to put this comment in
52:45 but I think that it's a habit and the
52:50 demand is here now to be able to ditch
52:53 your car at a parking right so you can
52:55 drive to your job or you can take
52:56 transit during peak hours to your job in
52:59 Seattle which is great and it's a great
53:02 place to start for a region but if you
53:04 think 10 20 30 years I just think that's
53:08 that's investing in an old way of
53:11 thinking about transportation and
53:13 thinking about communities and I don't
53:16 know exactly where to lodge this comment
53:20 but I noticed that some comments in the
53:22 policy memo and there was
53:24 I don't know I wrote it to page 23 and I
53:27 don't remember what document so it kind
53:30 of touches a few of these documents that
53:31 we've been presented with so sorry this
53:35 is Sujata so Cynthia are you talking
53:37 about things like instead of doing just
53:39 you know massive Perkin rides at these
53:41 transit centers are you talking about
53:43 like transit oriented development and
53:45 that kind of stuff is that cuz I like it
53:48 if you you know I would have don't
53:51 right what else
53:54 but transit was it's gonna turn into a
53:56 parking right here a place to ditch your
53:58 car so I'm I'm not directly promoting
54:01 transit oriented development but I
54:03 suppose by challenging the concept of
54:06 massive parking rides I don't know of
54:09 other things that are done with transit
54:12 stop the land-use around transit stops
54:14 so I think it's an indirect way of
54:16 saying transit oriented development but
54:21 you know we in the suburbs have this
54:22 habit of building these monstrous
54:24 facilities and they're expensive they're
54:26 free the demand seat
54:32 it's the supply I'm sorry and and and
54:35 they're most likely some of the most you
54:39 know these are people who are employed
54:41 they go to work every single day so they
54:42 have a job and they are probably more
54:45 likely to be they probably index high at
54:48 higher income levels than general
54:50 transit users so we give them this thing
54:52 for free and it costs a fortune and the
54:57 supply is not cannot keep up with demand
55:00 it's just all broken to me and becoming
55:04 a destination location for a
55:06 park-and-ride for everybody coming in
55:08 disqualify own into parking right as a
55:10 destination point they catch some sort
55:12 of transit you'd like to see I'm just
55:16 disappointed question is how to get
55:18 people there to get the transit without
55:19 having have their car to get there in a
55:22 way yes and there's a lot of information
55:27 about what happens you know ten and
55:29 twenty years after big transit stop has
55:33 big park and ride versus some other
55:35 kinds of like just more like what you
55:38 and Sujata are talking about and that's
55:40 what I want to make sure that we're
55:42 thinking about I don't know if we even
55:43 have that I mean is that is that even in
55:46 this in our scope with with regard to I
55:50 was looking at some of the principles
55:51 about preparing for you know for light
55:54 rail and that sort of thing I mean is
55:56 this
55:58 so I guess I'm just wondering if there's
56:01 even a place for this kind I mean
56:03 there's two questions one is what does
56:05 everyone else think and the other is is
56:06 there even a place within the scope of
56:08 what we're trying to accomplish to
56:10 insert this kind of thinking
56:13 you
56:17 I mean I would definitely agree it said
56:20 what you're saying about the idea
56:23 everybody having to get in their car to
56:25 get to the transit to get on a bus to
56:28 get to downtown well that seems like a
56:30 very odd combination of things and as
56:35 you know I think as light rail comes we
56:40 do as a city I would say and I think
56:44 within our transportation plan you know
56:46 if we know where that facility or those
56:48 facilities are gonna go it would make
56:51 sense for us to identify you know
56:55 knowing that this is you know 20 years
56:57 in the future or whatever identify
57:00 accessible routes of you know like safe
57:04 bike routes or safe walking routes I
57:08 think when we had that meeting with all
57:10 those other boards I remember I thought
57:14 they were saying something the the
57:18 growth management people I can't
57:20 remember the time for it but I think
57:24 they had mentioned something about
57:26 zoning and zone code and density
57:29 associated with these with this new
57:34 Transit Center coming online but I think
57:37 you know it for us and our purview just
57:39 ensuring that the policies we write
57:42 really you know the idea that we want a
57:44 more mobile more bicycle mobility safe
57:48 mobility inside our downtown core we
57:50 wanted to look like this that's where
57:52 the density is going blah blah blah I
57:54 think just by creating that kind of
57:57 network in our downtown core we're sort
58:00 of going to be hopefully de-facto
58:02 creating those opportunities once
58:04 transit does come I think part of the
58:07 bummers I think we only have really four
58:09 transit routes it's just circulate your
58:11 downtown where if you had a parking
58:13 structure downtown if you didn't have a
58:15 parking structure you'd have to have a
58:16 wagon wheel spoke of bus network
58:18 bringing people to that area which we
58:21 don't have that might be the
58:23 forward-looking thing as far as having
58:25 how do you address that people get into
58:27 example the transportation via bus or
58:30 another way
58:30 they don't have to drive their car
58:37 yeah and this is sorry and maybe this is
58:41 where that policy of the future
58:43 technology stuff comes in just I know it
58:46 you know king county parks we're doing
58:48 the trailhead direct so we're getting
58:50 these little shuttles that take people
58:53 from instead of building massive parking
58:55 lots at our natural areas we have these
58:58 little shuttles that will you know come
59:00 every 15 or 20 minutes and they pick you
59:02 up at a park and ride and then they take
59:05 you to the various natural areas on the
59:07 weekends and we've created routes and
59:09 it's significantly increased transit use
59:12 and access to record or giuse really
59:16 green spaces in the in the mountains to
59:19 sound Greenway so maybe those are the
59:21 kind of technologies or opportunities
59:24 that you know as that Transit Center is
59:26 coming online we have you know like real
59:30 shuttle or whatever go through these
59:32 little through our communities or we
59:34 order one on our phone or whatever and
59:37 it starts to reduce some of that need
59:39 for everybody to own you know three cars
59:42 and a house of two people and blah blah
59:43 blah so
59:48 so I I was actually gonna Cynthia thank
59:52 you for bringing this up because I was
59:53 actually gonna bring some of this up
59:55 better when we were going to talk about
59:57 the planning context report with the
1:00:01 current pandemic some of the major
1:00:04 things that have really been highlighted
1:00:06 in all this is that we can certainly
1:00:09 change how people get around or at least
1:00:12 how they access you know bundles of
1:00:15 information or or have conversations and
1:00:18 still get be productive as part of our
1:00:21 economy as part of our system and I
1:00:24 think Kendra and I could probably take
1:00:25 up an entire two hours just talking
1:00:27 about this if we you know we were
1:00:30 allowed to so I will bring this up back
1:00:35 again when we're talking about the
1:00:36 planning context report because I think
1:00:37 it's important to think about how this
1:00:43 current pandemic is really changing how
1:00:44 people are getting around we're not
1:00:46 getting around and still being able to
1:00:49 be productive and still be part of the
1:00:51 work force and still work virtually
1:00:56 the answer to your question and I think
1:00:59 it was a question not so much comment is
1:01:01 there are a lot of tools that we can use
1:01:04 so to reduce the need for people to meet
1:01:08 to drive their car to access transit
1:01:09 facilities and so Jonah touched a little
1:01:12 bit on with the trailhead to neck there
1:01:15 is advancement in technology so you can
1:01:17 develop different types of options for
1:01:19 people to get from either single-family
1:01:21 housing or multi-family housing to the
1:01:23 transit facilities you have now but you
1:01:26 can also expand on the type of transit
1:01:29 this transit system you have beyond just
1:01:32 the standard metro bus routes that you
1:01:35 see going and you know a couple blocks
1:01:38 away from your house
1:01:39 Metro can partner with different types
1:01:42 of third-party vendors that provide you
1:01:46 know scooters or bike share or even with
1:01:49 uber and lifts now we're moving into
1:01:55 more much more of a virtual world
1:01:58 how much of a need is is there for that
1:02:00 and how much which direction do we we go
1:02:03 our land use hasn't changed so their
1:02:05 needs are still there but the demand is
1:02:08 definitely changing especially as we see
1:02:11 how employers are responding to the
1:02:13 recent pension now I'm a I'm gonna stop
1:02:16 myself there in case anybody else had a
1:02:18 comment but I just wanted to quickly
1:02:19 respond to your question before I I
1:02:22 forgot what the question was
1:02:27 I do questions go ahead Cynthia I was
1:02:31 gonna say there is a specific question
1:02:33 buried in there and that's the next
1:02:35 major opportunity to impact the
1:02:42 existence of massive park and rides
1:02:44 it's suburban transit locations is light
1:02:47 rail do we as part of this process have
1:02:52 any input into or does the city of
1:02:55 Issaquah in general have input as to
1:02:57 whether that stop will be accompanied by
1:03:00 a massive park and ride like East Gate
1:03:02 or does the city of Asaph want get to
1:03:05 decide and does this transportation plan
1:03:07 have any input as to on that particular
1:03:10 that seems like a big trigger to me like
1:03:12 that it's so far in advance that now's
1:03:14 the time to be having that conversation
1:03:16 but I don't have any idea where that
1:03:18 decision gets made
1:03:22 pre-pandemic
1:03:24 the natural process for how this would
1:03:28 be is yes we would have a say on where
1:03:32 facilities go what throughout my be but
1:03:34 the sound Transit board and staff are
1:03:37 the ones that make the final decision on
1:03:40 where the routing is where the final
1:03:42 stations are as a community partner for
1:03:46 this route we have a very strong
1:03:48 influence on where station should go and
1:03:51 how access should be developed as part
1:03:53 of that system and whether it's
1:03:55 accompanied by a gigantic parking right
1:03:57 or not okay
1:04:01 Stephen I don't want to chime in too
1:04:04 much here but as part of the the MMP
1:04:08 you'll notice our transit policies
1:04:10 they're not super extensive at this
1:04:13 point Cynthia I think you're asking some
1:04:14 really really good questions one of the
1:04:17 when you know Stephen and I were scoping
1:04:19 this project we're talking about it is
1:04:21 that transit is obviously a really
1:04:24 important topic that could be addressed
1:04:27 in much more detail than its within this
1:04:29 scope and so I think you know something
1:04:32 that Stephen has previously mentioned
1:04:34 that you know he's thinking about is
1:04:36 more of a transit implementation plan
1:04:39 that's specific to transit
1:04:40 accommodations within his squad how
1:04:42 AIESEC la is a sound host of transit
1:04:46 which includes variety of just to
1:04:48 respond to your comment on you know
1:04:50 massive parking garage or local
1:04:53 connections to transit be it bicycle and
1:04:57 pedestrian Tod you is a sound idea
1:05:00 different first last mile connections
1:05:03 we've worked with some cities that have
1:05:05 actually asked the question do we want
1:05:06 to build a big parking garage would it
1:05:09 be cheaper just to give everyone
1:05:10 vouchers to be able to use TNCs
1:05:13 taxes and how long you know how many
1:05:16 rides with that that actually fund
1:05:19 before building another parking space
1:05:20 and suspense killer here is the answer
1:05:23 is a lot so I think there's a lot of
1:05:26 choices there we don't have the answers
1:05:28 we haven't dealt that deeply yet I think
1:05:31 that's something that in the coming
1:05:33 years you know probably I'm not going to
1:05:37 I'm not going to speculate on a time
1:05:39 frame for from Stephens team but I think
1:05:42 that is something that's an interest to
1:05:44 the city and is a part of the MMP we've
1:05:47 been expecting that that's going to be
1:05:48 kind of a next step implementation item
1:05:54 you have to add on what Kendra said and
1:05:57 then I'll just take one more minute and
1:05:59 then we can move on the original plan
1:06:03 and the plan is still to have deeper
1:06:05 conversations on transit following the
1:06:07 adoption we intentionally did not have
1:06:10 those conversations because we knew they
1:06:14 they were gonna be extensive I mean we
1:06:16 we are wanting to have community
1:06:17 conversations around station planning
1:06:20 around what type of access we want to
1:06:23 light rail or high speed high high
1:06:29 volume transit facilities and so being
1:06:33 able to do that we wanted to be able to
1:06:36 focus on just that as separate from the
1:06:39 master plan so we can focus on the
1:06:41 master plan first and then jump into
1:06:42 those deeper transit conversations how
1:06:46 that's gonna happen now we're not
1:06:48 entirely sure yet because Metro doesn't
1:06:51 even know what recovery orb and Sound
1:06:53 Transit don't even know where recovery
1:06:54 look like and they have even finalized
1:06:57 their forecast models yet so until all
1:07:02 that is done
1:07:05 we can have initial conversations but
1:07:08 those bigger conversations gonna have to
1:07:10 wait until we know what recovery looks
1:07:13 like and then we have a better idea of
1:07:15 what after recovery
1:07:20 this is a great discussion Cynthia I
1:07:22 really want to thank you for bringing
1:07:23 that up
1:07:24 excellent topic and one that I you asked
1:07:28 what we thought of it and I agree with
1:07:30 you and glad you brought it up I would
1:07:32 say to Stephen that Cynthia was maybe
1:07:36 where did this come from
1:07:38 Genta there's only one application for
1:07:42 large-scale parking facilities and I
1:07:44 think Cynthia may also be saying that
1:07:47 the the use of land or parking making of
1:07:53 itself be something that would look at
1:07:55 not just as a compliment to a Transit
1:07:59 Center but what is our policy about
1:08:02 parking facilities and maybe we'll we
1:08:06 could look at that sooner and get a feel
1:08:09 from the community and from the city
1:08:11 about how we could make things develop
1:08:15 the way that we wanted to develop
1:08:17 and the end of the future in the system
1:08:21 and probably maybe another thing to tie
1:08:23 into the parking center is if it could
1:08:24 be used for multiple things that was it
1:08:26 just parking for transit the city
1:08:29 parking for local business park there
1:08:31 are people commuting to Seattle
1:08:32 Washington work Costco a single facility
1:08:36 that could have multiple users supposed
1:08:39 to one just for transit and a parking
1:08:41 lot or across go another parking lot for
1:08:43 somebody else it could also have you are
1:08:47 can have at least you get combine it
1:08:49 with other other users and good we want
1:08:55 to have that conversation sooner rather
1:08:56 than later Steven thank you
1:08:58 excellent okay so the next item was are
1:09:00 y'all ready any objections objections
1:09:03 next item is a MMP outline planning
1:09:07 context and future needs assessment
1:09:09 right even sure
1:09:15 it's it's fairly short is it helpful for
1:09:18 me to actually put this on the screen or
1:09:19 just to quickly talk about it and then
1:09:22 open the floor what would you prefer
1:09:25 Nana I'd like it on the screen we're
1:09:27 watching it now but we may be watching
1:09:30 it again later other people may watch it
1:09:31 in the video form there are a lot of
1:09:33 people interested in a project so let's
1:09:35 help them
1:09:42 okay so for the outline we try to keep
1:09:47 the outline very simple and very
1:09:49 straightforward we want to start with an
1:09:52 executive summary to simplify a lot of
1:09:55 the main messages that we are really
1:09:57 trying to convey as part of the master
1:09:58 plan we've heard the feedback from the
1:10:02 board members that having something
1:10:05 especially up front that's very simple
1:10:07 has a lot of graphics but is able to
1:10:10 tell the story of what we're trying to
1:10:12 achieve with the master plan is is we're
1:10:14 hoping to convey that in the executive
1:10:16 summary following the executive summary
1:10:19 we have the introduction in the process
1:10:21 we're telling the story of how we got to
1:10:23 where we are today with the policies in
1:10:25 the master plan and then talking about
1:10:28 the planning context and future needs
1:10:30 really displaying what the city the what
1:10:35 the transportation system is well looks
1:10:37 like today and applying the guiding
1:10:40 principles to that to show what we need
1:10:42 or at least what we're missing to
1:10:44 achieve our goals so my questions
1:10:47 actually about that outline is are we
1:10:50 missing anything based on previous
1:10:52 conversations we've had about the
1:10:54 outline or does anything seem unclear
1:11:02 go ahead and put it in the chat whether
1:11:04 you have a comment or a question loved
1:11:07 all on you
1:11:09 Stephen can I bring into for the
1:11:13 conversation this has this has two parts
1:11:16 there's to the outline and then there's
1:11:18 the planning context and future needs so
1:11:20 the next part of this agenda item is
1:11:23 that kind of middle or one two three
1:11:27 four the fourth section is that correct
1:11:29 am I getting my understanding that's
1:11:32 correct
1:11:36 any questions out there
1:11:40 principles I'll ask let's see this a
1:11:42 little bit so when you get into the
1:11:44 planning context and future needs it's
1:11:46 not for many pages but they are totally
1:11:50 up front in the executive summary that
1:11:53 right
1:11:54 yes the guiding principles will be
1:11:56 outlined in the executive summary but
1:11:57 more importantly though it'll be part of
1:12:01 the plan or at least the introduction of
1:12:04 you know we had these conversations and
1:12:07 we determined these are what is we find
1:12:10 it important or our transportation
1:12:12 system
1:12:15 and tom has a question so let me call on
1:12:17 Tom you can state your question and and
1:12:20 flesh it out for us sure I was looking
1:12:23 that I wasn't sure with the guiding
1:12:24 principles is that where the policies
1:12:26 that we've been talking about is that
1:12:28 where that would be located it's time to
1:12:31 look through the major titles so there
1:12:34 so the section under introduction what
1:12:39 we're talking about
1:12:40 why developed the TMP now and give that
1:12:43 story of what we the feedback we got
1:12:47 from the community we concluded with
1:12:49 that what the guiding principles being
1:12:51 the ultimate goals that we're trying to
1:12:53 achieve but then guiding principles are
1:12:55 embedded in all three policies and the
1:12:58 criteria that we'll be using
1:13:01 okay answer in terms of specifically
1:13:04 said to be called out so they could read
1:13:06 through those and never
1:13:10 they could see what all our involves the
1:13:12 guiding bottles he's wearing as far as
1:13:13 how we did the evaluation
1:13:16 when you said throughout the document is
1:13:18 there one area that they it's really
1:13:21 clear for them or is it yeah so it'll be
1:13:23 it'll be called out specifically in the
1:13:25 executive summary but it'll be even more
1:13:27 called out in terms of like how they
1:13:28 were developed and list them all out in
1:13:30 the introduction as well okay
1:13:38 any other questions I have one more
1:13:41 even on the end of the outline that says
1:13:44 prioritized project lists
1:13:49 is that them are we getting to that sure
1:13:54 so the project list that we're gonna be
1:13:57 looking at tonight that is not going to
1:14:01 be that is not the prioritized project
1:14:03 that is just the general full project
1:14:05 list as as we've been able to collect it
1:14:08 they've they're separated in different
1:14:11 categories but the criteria that we've
1:14:15 been going over and we got review of
1:14:17 tonight we're going to apply that
1:14:18 criteria to those projects and score all
1:14:22 the projects and that's how we'll come
1:14:24 up with the prioritized projects when
1:14:28 would we do we see that and what's the
1:14:32 what's the life cycle of that getting to
1:14:34 some kind of approval or use after
1:14:36 tonight where you will work with the
1:14:38 ad-hoc committee with the priority going
1:14:40 through the prioritized project list
1:14:41 helping making sure there's enough
1:14:43 language that things seem clear and then
1:14:46 we're going to move to the full the
1:14:48 public release of the draft plan in
1:14:50 early July that'll be kind of the first
1:14:51 opportunity for the full tab to be able
1:14:54 to see the full prioritized projects
1:15:00 anybody else in the
1:15:03 chatbox we're not going very far though
1:15:05 we're just going to the second part of
1:15:06 this moving from the outline to the
1:15:09 planning context in future needs if
1:15:11 you're ready Steven we'll go to that and
1:15:13 if any of you have questions about the
1:15:15 list itself I'm just say so in the chat
1:15:17 window please sure
1:15:27 okay not seeing any questions I'll
1:15:30 briefly describe the planning context in
1:15:33 the future needs the
1:15:36 context is is our assessment of existing
1:15:39 conditions it lays out our
1:15:42 transportation as it looks today and and
1:15:44 it specifically looks at each of the
1:15:46 travel modes and travel Bay and travel
1:15:48 behavior of how our community gets
1:15:53 around and the future needs assessment
1:15:55 is is taking a you know a different
1:15:59 picture of applying our guiding
1:16:01 principles to our existing conditions
1:16:03 and describing what we're clearly
1:16:05 missing to meet our own goals of the
1:16:07 system in accordance with the guiding
1:16:09 principles is there anything specific
1:16:13 that you want me well actually should I
1:16:15 just open the floor now and go to
1:16:17 specific sections where there's
1:16:18 questions and comments
1:16:20 sure we can do that you're looking in
1:16:23 the chat for some questions
1:16:29 I can ask one to kind of get it started
1:16:32 throughout the paragraphs Stephen I
1:16:36 calling it in my little notes here
1:16:38 commentary in some of this there's a an
1:16:41 opinion about what something means or
1:16:44 why it's significant or whatever how is
1:16:47 this composed and and those kinds of
1:16:50 assessments made in the narrative
1:16:58 there are a certain section that you're
1:16:59 referring to or
1:17:22 you know on the fly I don't know if I
1:17:24 can come up with it that
1:17:26 when you go down into scrolling down
1:17:28 into the paragraphs though where it says
1:17:31 that we that what we have is good or is
1:17:34 adequate or is you know we have high
1:17:36 quality we have a really walkable
1:17:38 community or whatever you know win and
1:17:40 something gets that qualifier rather
1:17:45 than just saying what it is you know
1:17:49 what you say in some instances you say
1:17:52 we have so many miles of something
1:17:53 that's just a fact but in some cases it
1:17:56 says we have a really good system you
1:18:00 know or we have a really bad system you
1:18:02 know when those words are used where
1:18:05 does that come about and we may be clean
1:18:08 that up let the data speak for itself
1:18:13 I see you know a lot of the comments are
1:18:17 at least the descriptions of the data is
1:18:20 using you know our assessment comparing
1:18:24 with what we see as good facilities
1:18:27 versus bad facilities
1:18:29 I guess one example is looking at our
1:18:33 grids our grid system in Central Islip
1:18:37 Oliver for versus Old Town I guess one
1:18:41 of the descriptions that is and here is
1:18:42 it is that there is a better current
1:18:46 system in the old town area versus the
1:18:50 central is flow because we we have a
1:18:54 little more room system to be able to
1:18:55 connect whether it's vehicle traffic or
1:18:58 of his pedestrian bicycle that gives us
1:19:00 better options for how we can better
1:19:02 connect the neighborhood with central
1:19:04 risk well we're limited on a lot of
1:19:06 areas to be able to better connect which
1:19:09 is vice some new projects
1:19:13 projects are being proposed to create
1:19:16 new connections does that help answer
1:19:19 your question uh yeah it does a little
1:19:22 bit and I think what I do is go back and
1:19:23 look at it and maybe others may see some
1:19:27 something of what I'm looking at okay
1:19:30 and then question I was just gonna
1:19:35 respond to you I mean there there's
1:19:38 professional judgment that was put in
1:19:41 there yeah Eric your staff right now is
1:19:44 the primary author although we benefit
1:19:46 from a lot of edits and guidance from
1:19:48 Stephen um you know I I would say we
1:19:53 have tried to draw some conclusions to
1:19:57 make a document readable one to kind of
1:19:59 emphasize some ideas um I was looking I
1:20:03 was making sure we didn't in anywhere
1:20:05 say that something was bad we're good
1:20:08 I'm glad to say we didn't quite use
1:20:09 those terms but to the extent that you
1:20:12 feel like we've drawn an inappropriate
1:20:14 conclusion of based on you know kind of
1:20:18 your local knowledge we certainly
1:20:21 welcome
1:20:26 Oh looks like we've lost Steven
1:20:30 Oh even come back
1:20:34 I'd still be there he might have just
1:20:35 walked no I know he's got a yellow ring
1:20:37 Steven are you thinking about this is
1:20:39 Tom are you thinking about the
1:20:44 why there isn't a roadway Network grids
1:20:47 like self between sunset and second and
1:20:49 why we don't have something over in the
1:20:52 Tibbets Valley growth area but then
1:20:55 similar to that
1:20:58 I know time what I was thinking was the
1:21:00 the language used in the in the
1:21:02 narrative yen okay and I think that the
1:21:05 staff and Kendra have explained it that
1:21:09 there were based on expertise at certain
1:21:13 qualifications that they're sharing in a
1:21:15 readable fashion in the plan and I think
1:21:18 it is an appropriate invitation to say
1:21:20 that if any of it doesn't ring right to
1:21:23 us that we should say so so when you're
1:21:26 reading it if there is anything like
1:21:28 that then go ahead and say something
1:21:30 about it
1:21:31 and Robert has a question while we wait
1:21:33 for Stephen can anyone text Stephen Oh
1:21:36 his computer crashed
1:21:38 oh my gosh coming back soon okay I have
1:21:41 a question for Kendra that I think you
1:21:43 can answer it has to do with
1:21:47 our review cycle and in here there are
1:21:51 timeline expectations that are on it
1:21:55 just a little deeper in
1:21:59 in the document but given the kovat
1:22:04 emergency of the stay at home and the
1:22:06 changes and not yet coming back we have
1:22:09 a review cycle for this embedded in the
1:22:12 document so that whatever we might make
1:22:15 expectations of today could be easily
1:22:19 and not too far down the road corrected
1:22:21 if things don't go the way we think
1:22:23 they're going oh we've got Stephen back
1:22:28 I see that was a fast-food just in terms
1:22:32 of so Stephen that question that 9ns
1:22:35 this is about a review cycle so now what
1:22:38 I understand we're working under is that
1:22:40 you know we've been we have a week by
1:22:43 week schedule of pieces that we're
1:22:45 giving to Steve it because of course
1:22:47 documents are going through consultant
1:22:50 review and then staff review eventually
1:22:52 up to like ta be an ad hoc review I know
1:23:00 we've got Stephen shared that the
1:23:04 intention is for a draft and what I
1:23:08 don't know nine out to you and hopefully
1:23:10 Stephen can elaborate is where at what
1:23:13 point we need ad hoc review comments so
1:23:17 they can make it into that early July
1:23:19 draft
1:23:26 let me clarify my question if Marta
1:23:29 regarded the timelines that are stated
1:23:32 and expectations of certain things
1:23:34 getting done in 10 years or 20 years or
1:23:36 whatever they are how often do we review
1:23:40 this document we review it in one year
1:23:42 do we review it in five years and the
1:23:44 reason that it bring that up is obvious
1:23:47 because we should have something like
1:23:48 that but the other is that we're in such
1:23:50 a state of unknown right now with the
1:23:53 Cova demur gence ii stay at home impacts
1:23:57 not yet fully felt and we certainly have
1:24:00 not yet recovered from them so what
1:24:02 would be our review of final document to
1:24:08 see if what we thought was going to
1:24:11 happen is happening especially due to
1:24:14 the kovat emergency and impacts entrance
1:24:19 so whoever wants to answer that Kendra
1:24:21 or Stephen
1:24:23 well I'm gonna let Steven elaborate on
1:24:27 that because I mean what you're talking
1:24:28 is definitely far beyond the extent of
1:24:32 our contract I would say that most
1:24:35 communities do revisit their train plans
1:24:38 every five or so years to confirm the
1:24:42 right things however how do you bring
1:24:44 you have a great point we are at an
1:24:46 inflection point for travel modeling and
1:24:49 forecasting and I think you're making it
1:24:52 point that the world is changing so much
1:24:54 that what we're saying today I don't
1:24:57 know if we know if the trends that we've
1:24:59 relied on for a long period of time so
1:25:07 if I I think I heard most of the
1:25:10 question can you hear me okay okay is
1:25:14 the question that I heard was what how
1:25:17 often are we updating and particularly
1:25:20 because the pandemic has really changed
1:25:22 our system is being used
1:25:26 I typically the master plan is updated
1:25:31 probably every five seven years
1:25:34 parallel to a comp plan update because
1:25:38 we are replacing the translation element
1:25:43 of the comprehensive plan with mobility
1:25:45 master plan we would be providing
1:25:49 updates along with the other sections
1:25:51 now with that said
1:25:55 plan does get occasional updates every
1:25:58 year and there's no reason why we can't
1:26:01 continue to take a look particularly
1:26:03 because of the pandemic to look at new
1:26:06 data because even though our land use
1:26:10 hasn't change you know the demand has
1:26:13 shifted there's gonna be a lot more
1:26:15 people working from home in the near and
1:26:18 potentially long-term future that's
1:26:20 gonna be impacting how our systems being
1:26:23 used and where the needs are going to be
1:26:25 needed especially with looking at equity
1:26:30 you know the needs are gonna be
1:26:32 significantly different in our community
1:26:35 and the communities around us so I think
1:26:37 it's gonna be important to be taking a
1:26:39 look at this fairly regularly until the
1:26:42 system is a little more calm down
1:26:48 I know it's not a very straight answer
1:26:50 yes we're gonna update it every two
1:26:52 years but but it is it is very much kind
1:26:55 of playing it by ear with how everything
1:26:57 goes with recovery and post recovery
1:27:01 hmm thank you
1:27:04 thank you any other questions about
1:27:09 text in future needs
1:27:15 a man
1:27:16 [Music]
1:27:18 on to the next item on the agenda the
1:27:21 ability master plan project list and
1:27:25 again Stephen
1:27:29 thank you I am I'm having to pull
1:27:33 everything back of it so getting you
1:27:35 give me a quick minute and I apologize
1:27:41 that part of that I my computer just
1:27:43 completely crashed
1:27:46 same thing that happened to me early on
1:27:49 in the meeting you got back pretty quick
1:27:51 it's like getting dumped out of a boat
1:27:53 and then coming back in isn't it yes she
1:27:58 because suddenly I just got that
1:28:00 beautiful blue screen telling me that I
1:28:04 needed to open everything back up okay
1:28:06 so did we were there any further
1:28:08 measurements are there any further
1:28:11 questions on the planning context or
1:28:13 future needs are we moving on okay
1:28:16 some of the projects and then I will
1:28:22 share my screen on this one
1:28:40 okay so with the project lists and I'm
1:28:44 gonna ask Kendra to help out on the
1:28:48 development of the project that's
1:28:49 because she and Sarah Peters our project
1:28:52 manager work extensively on putting this
1:28:55 together so they can help probably
1:28:59 better answer more of the questions but
1:29:02 the the development of this project was
1:29:05 really pulled from a lot of pre-existing
1:29:07 plans and project lists that the city
1:29:10 already had he quote from the walk and
1:29:12 roll plan be pulled from the city's
1:29:14 capital improvement plan we pulled from
1:29:17 the park strategic plan to pull out all
1:29:20 the city's translation prod pre-existing
1:29:23 projects and then we added on to it
1:29:25 using the policies that we've helped
1:29:28 with with your help develop to really
1:29:31 pinpoint gaps in our system and so
1:29:35 projects the first project through
1:29:38 project and I believe 97 are all
1:29:42 projects that have been previously
1:29:44 looked at and previous previously
1:29:46 assessed as far as the capital
1:29:48 improvement plan art of concurrency part
1:29:52 of the comp plan
1:29:59 and that was one of my questions is if
1:30:01 open houses were held for those and F
1:30:04 will have open houses for all the new
1:30:06 projects that from 5 to 98 on a 10-point
1:30:12 Kendra and we lost Steven again who
1:30:15 knows it why don't you do what you can
1:30:17 with Tom's question absolutely so I
1:30:20 actually just give maybe even a higher
1:30:22 level kind of perspective here we have a
1:30:25 hunt about a hundred fifty projects that
1:30:27 have come out they've come from a
1:30:28 variety of sources as Steven mentioned
1:30:30 the first roughly a hundred have come
1:30:32 from your existing plans and the
1:30:35 additional 50 have come from our other
1:30:38 analysis and to remind you we talked
1:30:40 about sidewalk standards we talked about
1:30:42 locations where we might expect to have
1:30:45 sidewalks on both sides of the street or
1:30:47 one side of the street and what we did
1:30:49 is a team as we compared your existing
1:30:51 structure that's in place to what we
1:30:54 said the standard would be and we
1:30:56 identified locations where
1:30:57 infrastructure didn't quite meet that
1:30:59 standard and that's how we created kind
1:31:01 of those additional 50 projects beyond
1:31:03 what you have today so I think to the
1:31:07 question that was Tom right Tom asked it
1:31:10 was a very good one how are we gonna get
1:31:12 community input first first of all I'd
1:31:15 say there's another step here that's
1:31:17 gonna be I think very helpful we have a
1:31:21 hundred and fifty projects and I think
1:31:22 something that we're all painfully aware
1:31:24 of is that it's highly unlikely that the
1:31:27 city is going to have money to fund all
1:31:29 150 of these projects so some good
1:31:32 questions that we have is well how do we
1:31:34 decide which projects get funded and
1:31:37 that's really where we do look to that
1:31:40 evaluation criteria that we have worked
1:31:44 on with all of you and with staff
1:31:46 extensively think about well you know as
1:31:49 a part of this MMP we have identified
1:31:52 the things that we think are the most
1:31:53 important risk for our residents and the
1:31:57 criteria I actually do want to pull it
1:31:59 up again just I know I'm not sharing my
1:32:01 screen but I think it is it does bear
1:32:05 reminding you know kind of things that
1:32:07 you've said that are really important so
1:32:09 again projects abilities yeah I think
1:32:13 list up you want me to share my screen
1:32:15 and listen
1:32:17 um sure the the the project list or I
1:32:21 was just looking at the criteria that we
1:32:23 talked about earlier okay how Dante
1:32:25 creatures yeah to evaluate to
1:32:29 environmental sustainability how they
1:32:32 connect better connected squat with the
1:32:35 region I think I'm looking for preparing
1:32:38 for growth and I do and I'm not actually
1:32:41 I navigated away so I don't know if you
1:32:44 were sharing your screen Tom that's okay
1:32:46 if you're not
1:32:46 no I was not I was gonna help you sure
1:32:50 and I've been trying I see Stevens back
1:32:55 so although I could share the content I
1:33:00 have it I do I have the ability
1:33:09 yeah I don't think I'm succeeding at
1:33:11 this are you guys seeing it looks like
1:33:15 I'm sharing are you you are able to see
1:33:17 it alright um Stephen I know you've been
1:33:20 away so we were just talking about this
1:33:23 150 projects and what I was mentioning
1:33:26 is kind of next step is really looking
1:33:28 at how these 150 investments this we
1:33:31 know we can't we can't afford all of it
1:33:33 how they match up with these criteria
1:33:40 that we talked about and I think it is
1:33:42 really important I think you want to
1:33:43 highlight a few talk about improving
1:33:45 mobility within his plot and some of the
1:33:47 clear things that were looking at and we
1:33:51 already went through this at a previous
1:33:52 item but I do like do you have an equity
1:33:55 measure yeah how were you know really
1:33:58 helping folks within the city who maybe
1:34:01 don't have as many mobility
1:34:03 opportunities to move more efficiently
1:34:05 but we have kind of these 6v6 criterion
1:34:10 and out of these six criterion we have
1:34:13 several kind of more objective
1:34:15 quantifiable measures projects and so I
1:34:19 think to get back to your question I'm
1:34:22 gonna stop sharing my screen so we go to
1:34:25 things that Stephen or others might want
1:34:28 to share we the the step the technical
1:34:34 step that's going and that's going
1:34:35 forward with the consultant team right
1:34:36 now and we're working actually
1:34:38 partnership with staff is we're looking
1:34:40 at each and every one of those projects
1:34:42 and identifying how well each and every
1:34:45 one of those projects advances these
1:34:48 priorities and so the next step is for
1:34:52 you all to be for us to come back and
1:34:55 report to you or report to the ad hoc
1:34:58 committee in terms of what are those
1:35:00 projects that are the most consistent
1:35:03 and so again we know that we can't fund
1:35:06 150 but what what is that what is that
1:35:10 more discrete number of projects that is
1:35:12 affordable within that horizon and so to
1:35:15 your question in sharing this with the
1:35:18 community you know if you would ask me
1:35:22 you know what probably some way it will
1:35:25 be possible for the community to see all
1:35:27 the different investments we've we've
1:35:29 looked at but a list of 150 isn't
1:35:32 terribly useful and can be very daunting
1:35:34 to look at takes a lot of time and so I
1:35:38 think what we're hoping to share with
1:35:40 the community is a more focused
1:35:42 Dieselworks saying we've you know done
1:35:44 pretty robust analysis and here's the
1:35:47 investments that we're recommending
1:35:48 moving forward with a much more discreet
1:35:51 level and I think at that point we
1:35:53 really do want to hear from the
1:35:54 community of this more focused this kid
1:36:00 is this you know generally meeting your
1:36:03 needs are there major gaps that we're
1:36:06 not addressing and something that I
1:36:08 stress I work with a lot of communities
1:36:10 going for a very similar process is that
1:36:13 this you know kind of more objective
1:36:15 quantifiable process that we've gone
1:36:18 through it helps us to focus it's a very
1:36:21 useful tool but I think at the end of
1:36:22 the day does required human touch to
1:36:25 make sure we're not missing things and I
1:36:27 think just I want to harken back to
1:36:29 Cynthia's comments the very beginning of
1:36:32 this I think you really you know spoke a
1:36:34 lot to my heart in terms of thinking
1:36:36 about is we're becoming more we're
1:36:38 structural racism in our society very
1:36:42 important considerations I think you
1:36:44 know it does I think require some
1:36:47 thought to make sure that the
1:36:49 transportation system that we're
1:36:50 recommending is a part of this MMP is
1:36:53 this a transportation system that's
1:36:55 really truly creating more mobility
1:36:59 opportunities or safety or comfort for
1:37:03 the full spectrum of baseball community
1:37:06 so I'm going to stop there to give the
1:37:09 floor back to the TV members and Steven
1:37:13 but hopefully that sort of helped answer
1:37:15 that question
1:37:17 yeah I'll go to you Steven we were Tom
1:37:21 had just thrown out a question so we
1:37:24 could continue while we waited for you
1:37:26 to come back um
1:37:28 Hitler might have said some things that
1:37:30 were inspiring you to comment to once
1:37:34 you go ahead and continue where you were
1:37:39 yes I remember when I was just listening
1:37:43 to the comments and the questions and
1:37:47 maybe I mean I was actually really close
1:37:50 to concluding summarizing what the
1:37:53 project list it's very straight forward
1:37:54 in terms of like what it was the biggest
1:37:56 questions for you is trying to figure
1:37:58 out know is there anything that you
1:38:02 think is missing is there anything to
1:38:05 the particularly the new projects
1:38:07 reflects a lot of the new policies that
1:38:10 we've discussed because that's where
1:38:11 they came from
1:38:12 identifying where there's gaps in our
1:38:15 sidewalk system my gaps in our bike
1:38:18 bicycle facilities or the type of
1:38:20 bicycle facilities that at least improve
1:38:23 this is a little bit I think before your
1:38:27 computer crash the first time you were
1:38:28 just talking about the first 98 where I
1:38:31 pray police been rented and whatnot
1:38:34 you're starting to talk about the next
1:38:35 group I'm not sure if you want to if
1:38:37 there's anything more to say about a
1:38:39 long same line just and how the next
1:38:42 group came about those are the ones
1:38:44 we're gonna be really looking at sure
1:38:46 sure the only thing I would say about
1:38:48 the first ninety seven ninety three
1:38:52 projects is that it's been a few years
1:38:55 since we've looked at them we look them
1:38:57 as part of the more recent yabby process
1:38:59 but it was more as financial updates
1:39:02 like making sure cost assessments about
1:39:04 today but as we move forward and kind of
1:39:07 answering the question on what happens
1:39:09 next after mobility master planners we
1:39:11 take it take a better you know a closer
1:39:14 look at this full project list determine
1:39:17 you know some of these projects have
1:39:19 been on the CA p or bin as part of
1:39:22 previous project list for a really long
1:39:24 time are they still relevant and we
1:39:26 start having those conversations again
1:39:28 the way our capital improvement program
1:39:31 has worked in the past is that the
1:39:34 we kind of kept a running list going you
1:39:37 know some some projects kind of come off
1:39:39 when there's no longer other than listen
1:39:42 a while since we've actually gone
1:39:44 through the exercise so I think
1:39:46 following the adoption of the mobility
1:39:48 master plans because you're having those
1:39:49 conversations around the full project
1:39:51 list and and determining what are our
1:39:54 higher priorities with the new project
1:39:58 lists I mean the biggest things to me
1:40:00 that I think is missing is is taking a
1:40:03 little bit closer look at transit
1:40:04 improvements and how access to our
1:40:07 transit facilities or our transit
1:40:10 network can be improved and it's missing
1:40:14 that primarily because we want to save
1:40:16 those transit conversations or later
1:40:18 when we have a deeper discussion around
1:40:20 light rail and what our transit system
1:40:22 should look like
1:40:26 and then now I will hand the floor over
1:40:28 back to the board on any comments or
1:40:31 questions
1:40:34 even I don't see any in the chat but are
1:40:37 there any questions about this
1:40:43 well you guys think about it it seemed
1:40:46 like that there were some questions in
1:40:47 the first section the one through 93
1:40:50 that might be items that are already
1:40:52 under construction or already been
1:40:55 completed is this when was this list
1:40:57 from the projects 1 through 93
1:41:03 it's not necessarily that they're all in
1:41:05 construction they're all under other
1:41:07 project lists so they're either on there
1:41:09 our capital improvement program or
1:41:11 they're under they were listed in the
1:41:13 park strategic plan or they were
1:41:16 identified in our our concurrency
1:41:25 are there any other questions about the
1:41:32 another question not this is tone not
1:41:37 yet I said I want to have a little more
1:41:39 time to read through each one of them
1:41:40 and kind of relate to where they are and
1:41:42 how to tie an existing project which I
1:41:45 have not onion
1:41:49 like Cynthia has a question go ahead
1:41:51 Cynthia she's going back through all my
1:41:54 emails and there was one of two two one
1:41:59 two three three three of three and I
1:42:01 appreciate that and I was trying to
1:42:03 figure out how I missed I guess I'm
1:42:05 gonna ask the dumb question here this
1:42:07 seems like a big body of work that we
1:42:09 should spend some time with I don't know
1:42:13 I don't understand I guess I'm just not
1:42:16 really clear on how or what we're doing
1:42:20 I understood Kendra's point and I think
1:42:23 that's a really useful exercise but this
1:42:27 is where the rubber meets the road and
1:42:29 I'm not like understanding I haven't
1:42:33 given it the time somehow I I think I
1:42:37 looked at the first three the fourth one
1:42:39 was literally hidden like it like it was
1:42:41 too many into the you know in the screen
1:42:42 and so it didn't show me there was a I
1:42:44 haven't studied this I guess I'm a
1:42:48 little bit confused about the process
1:42:50 and it seems like this is pretty
1:42:52 important and so I don't know what to do
1:42:56 because I bet if I spent some time with
1:42:58 this I would have an opinion and there
1:42:59 probably be robust discussion about it
1:43:02 am I the only one that's feeling a
1:43:03 little overwhelmed and lost by that 950
1:43:07 an ill-prepared know that I think that
1:43:11 was probably what I was trying to say
1:43:12 also is that you know Tillich states
1:43:15 observe them see how the tie-in with
1:43:16 existing projects and then exactly what
1:43:21 my feedback or comment is supposed to be
1:43:24 in regards to the specific projects or
1:43:28 however late or if they fit within the
1:43:30 policy or not fit within the policy I'm
1:43:31 not sure what my response or comment
1:43:33 back is supposed to be
1:43:37 I'm very good you guys Sujatha or kobe
1:43:41 do you want to say anything now or do
1:43:42 you want Steven maybe to talk about what
1:43:44 what is the expectation or what is our
1:43:48 role in this list what are you looking
1:43:52 for from us
1:43:56 yeah I'd like to hear from Stephen about
1:43:58 getting some direction based on and
1:44:01 comments on the upside sure I mean the
1:44:04 the expectation really was just to give
1:44:07 you an opportunity to look through the
1:44:10 project list before it gets released
1:44:12 because we haven't had a chance to look
1:44:15 at this yet and the opportunity now is
1:44:19 to help answer any questions about
1:44:20 what's in the project list what to look
1:44:22 for and in particular if you have
1:44:25 questions about specific projects where
1:44:27 they came from or how they eventually
1:44:30 will be scored by that back and for
1:44:32 specific questions can be answered later
1:44:34 on when we actually apply the criteria
1:44:38 so if I understand we will apply the
1:44:41 criteria to these projects as a group or
1:44:43 is that something we should look at now
1:44:44 why we're looking at the projects we
1:44:46 just try to understand them now yeah
1:44:50 yeah when I say we omit the the project
1:44:53 team is going to be applying the
1:44:54 criteria to the project list and then
1:44:56 we're gonna go through it make sure that
1:44:58 it's we're applying the criteria
1:45:01 correctly and then you'll see the final
1:45:02 scoring later
1:45:04 okay so that helps me you can be
1:45:07 applying the criteria so as I review the
1:45:10 sweat feedback - you need for me to get
1:45:13 to so that you can have that feedback
1:45:15 when you're looking at these and
1:45:17 applying the criteria it's primarily
1:45:21 just looking at maybe helping you
1:45:22 understand what the project this is the
1:45:24 primary questions I'm looking for
1:45:32 or Kobe do you have any comments or
1:45:34 questions about the list
1:45:40 okay and it's in it's clearly fine if
1:45:43 there aren't any questions we just
1:45:44 didn't want to put out a full draft plan
1:45:48 in July and not give you an opportunity
1:45:51 to see what the project list it looks
1:45:52 like to play around and you know helping
1:45:55 you understand what the project list
1:45:57 that's gonna be coming out so that's
1:45:59 good so hopefully timing the Wynwood you
1:46:03 want comments or any feedback that we
1:46:06 have back to you so you have time to
1:46:08 process that for your next time once we
1:46:11 have final scoring done we're gonna work
1:46:13 closely with ad hoc committee used in
1:46:16 China and Emma I'm thinking a look at
1:46:19 making sure that the criteria is being
1:46:21 applied correctly or the criteria is
1:46:22 being used or in a way that word that
1:46:25 the board is really discussed okay
1:46:27 Sophia any comments do you wanted back
1:46:30 to you guys the at all committee by
1:46:33 certain I'll follow up with that all
1:46:36 committee with more specific details
1:46:40 I have a couple of questions yes um I
1:46:45 think it's good to have a plan reference
1:46:48 number I don't know what what's DM and
1:46:50 and what order are these in
1:46:55 where are you looking right now sorry
1:46:57 I'm looking at page one of the project
1:47:00 the draft project list and there's a
1:47:05 column on the right-hand side
1:47:09 two-thirds of the way over that says
1:47:10 plan reference number okay - there's no
1:47:15 reference number
1:47:17 no I meant I'm sorry Alma you won and I
1:47:20 was just wondering what DM me it meant
1:47:24 there must be a plan that's abbreviated
1:47:32 oh it's it's from the concurrency model
1:47:35 updates oh it's from that project list
1:47:39 I just the calm before that has an
1:47:41 abbreviated DM
1:47:44 that is the reference number in that
1:47:46 project list so DM 2 DM 3 DM for that's
1:47:49 the reference numbers hi mom
1:47:55 I can
1:48:00 but and then I was wondering also what
1:48:04 is there an order to these
1:48:08 if I may not yet so we is it totally
1:48:14 random well not totally I didn't think
1:48:18 as they were constructed and compiled
1:48:21 but what I would say is that in the next
1:48:24 iteration when you start seeing these we
1:48:26 can order them based on kind of their
1:48:28 point score because these are coming
1:48:30 from such a variety of sources that
1:48:32 we've kept for administrative tracking
1:48:35 purposes whether you know if it came
1:48:37 from currency they've got a DM if they
1:48:39 came from another and they might have a
1:48:42 there's different names and that's it's
1:48:44 really just so that staff has a clear
1:48:46 idea of exactly where these come from
1:48:48 but as we start bringing these into the
1:48:51 MMP we'll be stripping out some of that
1:48:53 information that isn't really useful to
1:48:55 any mere mortal and ordering things more
1:49:00 based on their scoring or based on their
1:49:03 geographic location in the city we've
1:49:04 done that I have done that in
1:49:06 communities as well so one of the
1:49:09 reasons I asked the question was I was
1:49:10 wondering if it had anything to do with
1:49:12 how long they've been lying around
1:49:17 where they didn't stale or some getting
1:49:19 stale no um what Kendra said they really
1:49:24 aren't in personality it was more about
1:49:26 kind of the reference he and how we were
1:49:27 ordering for admission purposes but the
1:49:30 next version will be projecting a more
1:49:34 organized fashion
1:49:38 I think I'll put a quick comment in that
1:49:40 we really did look at this as kind of a
1:49:42 pencils up exercise today just share
1:49:46 with you kind of where we are and I
1:49:49 think to the point of you know I totally
1:49:51 get the question you've got a hundred
1:49:53 and fifty projects here you have about
1:49:56 10,000 columns what are we supposed to
1:49:59 do in some of these and it's just more
1:50:01 to share with you the general concept of
1:50:03 the project list what we're doing with
1:50:05 it what the origins of it are and I
1:50:08 think in the next step it'll start being
1:50:10 lot more refined and make quite a bit
1:50:13 more sense
1:50:18 are there any other questions about the
1:50:21 list I have a really easy one softball
1:50:26 to you Steven the time frame this list
1:50:30 has concurrency how far in the future is
1:50:33 this view this list
1:50:38 how how far into the future is the list
1:50:41 oh yeah the projects were build-out
1:50:43 yeah project list is this for our growth
1:50:46 in the next thirty years what is it in
1:50:49 the next twenty eight twenty yeah I
1:50:51 think the full range is like twenty five
1:50:52 years
1:50:58 thank you that that helps a great deal
1:51:00 okay then there's just a couple more
1:51:02 items under this agenda with the map of
1:51:05 projects if you want to introduce us a
1:51:08 little of that and then the sidewalk
1:51:10 projects sure so the the mapper projects
1:51:13 is tied with the reference numbers to
1:51:15 that full project list so you can see
1:51:17 geographically where each of the
1:51:19 projects are located the
1:51:24 same goes for the sidewalk that one is
1:51:27 identifying locations of those
1:51:29 particular sidewalk projects as well as
1:51:36 tears that they're identified for
1:51:38 categories
1:51:41 so it's just the help is
1:51:42 the reference maps to help with you
1:51:45 referencing where all the projects are
1:51:48 located in the city
1:51:54 looking for questions from people does
1:51:56 anyone have a question
1:52:01 you know me I'm always ready with one
1:52:02 Cynthia do you have a question yeah yeah
1:52:05 Stephen yes it was cross-referencing the
1:52:09 sidewalk projects with the post policies
1:52:13 and looking especially at squawk
1:52:17 Mountain about where does where do we
1:52:20 have to have two sided sidewalks and
1:52:22 where do we not have two sided sidewalks
1:52:24 and that's one example of where these
1:52:26 two don't match and so heads up if
1:52:30 nothing else but I found that confusing
1:52:33 because they weren't the same you're
1:52:34 talking about what's on the map versus
1:52:36 what's on the ground now
1:52:39 the the two different the two maps are
1:52:41 different as referring to where policy
1:52:44 would require two-sided sidewalk
1:52:48 that's your one tear to your for
1:52:50 stopping signal and then the
1:52:53 corresponding map that's in the proposed
1:52:55 policies figure to be doesn't match this
1:53:02 okay so I will get together with Kendra
1:53:04 to look a little bit closer at all this
1:53:06 to make sure they are matching thank you
1:53:09 for bringing that up
1:53:15 not seeing anyone else with any
1:53:17 questions last call for questions this
1:53:19 is the last item of our agenda tonight
1:53:21 so if you who are inspired to ask a
1:53:24 question about something earlier in the
1:53:26 agenda I just have a general question so
1:53:35 next time we meet will that like I know
1:53:40 nothing certain with code and everything
1:53:42 but do you think it might be in person
1:53:44 if it's a month out it really depends
1:53:50 I'm planning for a virtual meeting
1:53:53 because we really don't know where we're
1:53:55 gonna be in the phases it could
1:53:57 potentially be an in-person meeting but
1:53:59 if the board has a preference well I
1:54:06 think we're going to take that into
1:54:07 consideration because what we don't want
1:54:08 to do is force people in a situation to
1:54:11 be somewhere they really don't want to
1:54:13 be so we'll have that conversation with
1:54:16 the chairs and with our city clerk
1:54:22 good question Emma and I want to come
1:54:24 back to that in just a moment in another
1:54:26 business if you are already I would move
1:54:29 into the report section and see if there
1:54:32 is a staff report tonight's evening I do
1:54:35 have a quick staff report so the first
1:54:38 is an item that I had talked to earlier
1:54:42 in the meeting on the downtown street
1:54:43 closures and I want to help answer any
1:54:46 questions about what that it is but just
1:54:49 briefly what that what we're doing is
1:54:51 we're closing down front Street between
1:54:53 sunset to dogwood and closing down alder
1:54:58 between first halves and first place
1:55:01 that's that middle crossing Street where
1:55:05 subway and Domino's is and in downtown
1:55:07 the idea right now is that section of
1:55:12 all there's actually the originally
1:55:13 planned festival street that was
1:55:16 designed in the streetscape plan several
1:55:18 years ago and so we're following that
1:55:19 footprint right now we're adding on
1:55:21 French Street particularly because of
1:55:24 this pandemic but also I mean that is
1:55:27 something that was identified as a
1:55:29 priority by the recovery task force to
1:55:32 be able to support the downtown
1:55:34 businesses to expand their outdoor
1:55:36 seating so they can better abide by
1:55:39 social distancing requirements there's
1:55:41 right now with social system
1:55:43 requirements there there are fairly a
1:55:45 lot of businesses being downtown they're
1:55:47 fairly limited in there and their
1:55:48 footprint to be able to follow and by
1:55:52 adequate service that makes sense for
1:55:54 you know the sales they need to maintain
1:55:56 their business so we're trying to expand
1:55:59 that outdoor seating so they can do that
1:56:01 and we're working with them by closing
1:56:04 the street and set iam barricades around
1:56:07 each of the businesses to define where
1:56:10 their service areas are because we're
1:56:13 defining the service areas the sidewalks
1:56:16 are actually going to be closed and
1:56:18 we're going to open up a 20-foot lane
1:56:23 down the middle that'll be used for
1:56:24 pedestrian bicycle way through all of
1:56:27 downtown so that way instead of using
1:56:29 the side sidewalks you'll be able to
1:56:32 ride your bike or walk through downtown
1:56:34 essentially using the roadway
1:56:36 and so there will have wayfinding
1:56:38 signage each of the areas will be well
1:56:40 defined so you can and see where and
1:56:43 each of the businesses will be able to
1:56:45 accommodate out there shooting there any
1:56:47 quick questions about that
1:56:50 yeah when would that be in place we are
1:56:56 planning to start that actually next
1:56:58 weekend so it'll be the closure starts
1:57:00 Friday June 26 it'll start in the
1:57:03 afternoon at 2 p.m. and then the roads
1:57:06 are open right back up at 10 o'clock
1:57:08 Saturday night or 10:30 exactly Saturday
1:57:11 night
1:57:12 Oh so it won't be one day - they may be
1:57:15 from Friday all the way through to
1:57:16 Saturday gratz ok
1:57:20 and then it'll open back up on Sunday
1:57:23 and right now we're gonna be doing this
1:57:25 for about two weeks monitoring the
1:57:28 community impacts to make sure because
1:57:29 we it is a pilot we want to make sure
1:57:31 that this isn't negatively impacting
1:57:33 it's actually achieving what we want it
1:57:35 to be which is helping the downtown
1:57:36 business and then after that two weeks
1:57:39 we're gonna determine whether or not we
1:57:41 want to continue either a couple weeks
1:57:43 more or through the summer the question
1:57:46 how's that being advertised to the city
1:57:49 and and president has spoken down so
1:57:52 they can come down and and and do that
1:57:56 enjoy the restaurants and whatnot so
1:57:58 some of its already started to hit
1:57:59 social media we are gonna hit social
1:58:04 media there fairly soon because this was
1:58:09 a recovery task force item it was a new
1:58:12 item for staff so we've been working on
1:58:14 actually pretty hard for last four weeks
1:58:16 to be able to pull this together and the
1:58:19 details are have been still finalized
1:58:22 just this week so all day
1:58:24 the heavier advertisement from the city
1:58:26 is gonna be coming now but the recovery
1:58:28 task force has been talking about this
1:58:29 for quite some time so the idea before
1:58:33 the closure is to have electronic signs
1:58:34 up when we do the closures so at least
1:58:37 traffic has some clear visibility on
1:58:40 French Street that the road is going to
1:58:41 be closed for the weekend and then we're
1:58:43 going to be going social media we're
1:58:45 going to be going on online networks to
1:58:48 make sure everybody knows what's going
1:58:50 also good that's because well we'll be
1:58:53 down there for that and I'll send a note
1:58:55 to our neighborhood here too that it's
1:58:56 coming up
1:58:58 it Cynthia had a question about the
1:59:00 frequency or you know
1:59:04 I think I answered the question
1:59:10 Thank You Steven anything else on staff
1:59:12 report my last quick tidbit for staff
1:59:17 reports a bit of a sad one my manager
1:59:19 Kurt is actually retiring at the end of
1:59:22 July so we will be down one more on our
1:59:27 staff we're sad to see him go but I just
1:59:30 want to let you all know that that he is
1:59:33 planning for retirement so happy for him
1:59:36 not so much for us
1:59:39 well I second that it's been such a
1:59:42 pleasure to have him on staff he's
1:59:43 really a what got such a wealth of
1:59:46 expertise and and of patience it's
1:59:49 really been great great for us and we
1:59:52 didn't have a chance to say goodbye he
1:59:54 said when does his retirement date at
1:59:57 the end of July end of July so you can
2:00:00 email him his email address is on the
2:00:02 website and say yeah congratulations
2:00:05 okay and then that's your last for the
2:00:07 staff report that's it I have nothing
2:00:10 for a chair report but maybe Cynthia
2:00:12 does do you have anything nope okay you
2:00:15 report looking at Kobe and actually I
2:00:22 was wondering if you could provide a
2:00:24 quick update on the recovery task force
2:00:26 I only talked about the one item is
2:00:29 there anything else that you you could
2:00:30 probably briefly talk about on the spot
2:00:34 they have been fabulous meetings and
2:00:37 I'll tell you they be
2:00:40 the track the cross-section of expertise
2:00:44 of volunteers from the city from people
2:00:46 who serve on development Commission's
2:00:47 people who serve in parks and people who
2:00:49 serve everywhere a Stephanie from our
2:00:52 group is on this task force and she has
2:00:56 been really great to give the point of
2:01:00 view of downtown Issaquah not just
2:01:03 retail but restaurants some really
2:01:05 important businesses so she's been
2:01:08 fabulous to see her there the mayor runs
2:01:11 the meetings and
2:01:14 as Steven indicated the use of the
2:01:19 information that's coming from the task
2:01:20 force is almost immediate and this is
2:01:22 happening now it's time to go now it's a
2:01:25 it's a really quick and actionable group
2:01:31 I'm trying to think of some of the other
2:01:32 things that we have been talking about
2:01:39 I don't think I can come up with it off
2:01:41 the top of my head but there they're
2:01:43 recorded and you can watch them and when
2:01:45 you watch them on YouTube you can speed
2:01:47 them up to 1.5 speed but they're not
2:01:50 long meetings and they really are very
2:01:52 helpful no no I just had a question for
2:02:02 the youth report that Kobe and Emily mo
2:02:05 you are both seniors this year yep we
2:02:09 are off to college in the fall and
2:02:12 graduated I say congratulations on
2:02:15 graduation and off to college and sorry
2:02:18 Oh such a rough left two messages in
2:02:21 your year well thank you I appreciate it
2:02:31 Tom you know this is so hard to keep
2:02:33 track of where we are and what we
2:02:35 already did and these guys have really
2:02:38 you're right they've really pulled
2:02:39 through you are going to be greatly
2:02:41 missed the time having you here has been
2:02:45 so valuable though really you've
2:02:47 contributed a great deal yeah I've been
2:02:50 on the street since halfway through high
2:02:52 school it's been a long time yeah
2:02:55 where are you two off to college I'm
2:02:58 going to you Deb yeah I'm going all the
2:03:02 way to Michigan Michigan State
2:03:04 University Michigan say okay well good
2:03:07 well congratulations to both you know
2:03:10 all three actually but the third is not
2:03:12 here but yes congratulations thank you
2:03:15 indeed congratulations and thank you
2:03:18 it's been great it's been really great
2:03:21 to have you I don't have anything else
2:03:23 it was one thing though that I wanted to
2:03:26 share in the discussion about the front
2:03:28 street is that if you haven't any of you
2:03:30 signed up for the notify me a letter or
2:03:34 email notices when you go to the main
2:03:37 page of Issaquah wad of scroll down just
2:03:40 a little bit and look for notifying me
2:03:42 and pick the topics that are of interest
2:03:44 to you and you can pick now my
2:03:45 development or transportation or
2:03:46 whatever your neighborhood I depend on
2:03:49 those so complete good so you can check
2:03:52 on those the last thing that business is
2:03:54 when is our next meeting and Steven I
2:03:56 want to ask you it says TBD when our
2:03:59 next meeting is but also when is the
2:04:01 next public or when where does the MMP
2:04:04 go even if we're not meeting just remind
2:04:07 us what's next sure so after today the
2:04:10 MMB will hit the public release in early
2:04:14 July probably that second week in July
2:04:16 then it'll be under consideration or
2:04:21 review for the City Council at their
2:04:23 study session on July 28th
2:04:25 and then right now I'm aiming at August
2:04:29 6th for our next tab meeting um I'll
2:04:32 send out a poll to make sure everybody's
2:04:35 able to so you don't need to tell me now
2:04:38 but just keep that in mind I'm kind of
2:04:40 looking at that date right now and we
2:04:44 probably the third week in August we're
2:04:48 aiming for adoption or the September 8th
2:04:55 Thank You Steven is there any
2:04:57 expectation or desire for any of us to
2:04:59 attend the July 28th meeting
2:05:02 um if you would like to I think I can
2:05:06 have a conversation with you and Cynthia
2:05:07 about whether or not you can share a lot
2:05:11 of the tab as either the staff break you
2:05:15 be part of the staff presentation or you
2:05:17 can be part of public comments leading
2:05:19 into this study session we could talk
2:05:22 about that you're on
2:05:24 but I think having the tab voice at the
2:05:27 study session would be helpful whether
2:05:29 it is part of it coming over as part of
2:05:31 the presentation
2:05:33 okay thank you and
2:05:35 in any case I think that even though
2:05:36 that's not on you know it's not our
2:05:39 meeting I think we should put that
2:05:40 meeting on our calendar July 28th for
2:05:43 City Council
2:05:45 I can send I can send out the
2:05:46 information to all the town members to
2:05:49 that'd be great thank you anything else
2:05:53 any more announcements we're over time
2:05:56 but you guys have all been so patient
2:05:57 wait it's been a long time since we met
2:06:01 so things accumulated is there anything
2:06:04 else may I adjourn I'm going to adjourn
2:06:08 at 8:11 p.m. thank you very much our
2:06:12 next meetings not until August 6th but
2:06:15 the makes you will live on you know in
2:06:20 the bounce
2:06:22 turned everybody

Attendance

Council / Members (6)
Cynthia Krass
Tom McDonald
Nina Milligan
Kobi Sunday, Youth Position
Sujata Goel
Emma Gruby
Staff (4)
Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner Excused Absence
Marisol Visser
Stephanie Salemann
Madeline Yeh
Audience commenters (1)
Vice-Chair Cynthia Krass

Recommendations & actions (2)

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  • a) Minutes of January 27, 2020 The January 27, 2020 meeting minutes were approved with no edits.
  • A summary of the discussion is below: MMP Outline • The board expressed their joy for what they saw in the outline and recognized it includes all elements previously discussed and requested.