Transportation Advisory Board · Monday, January 27, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Board Membership

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Staff report:

Transportation Advisory Board About Created in 2017, this board — yet to be Staff Liaison initiated — will provide additional expertise and Stephen Padua, advice on the City’s transportation system and Senior Transportation Manager goals. Email Membership Regular Members The Transportation Advisory Board will be 2020 – Cynthia Krass comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2020 – Kyle Ochs three alternates. Initial terms will be staggered. 2021 – Tom McDonald All members are appointed by the Mayor and 2021 – Nina Milligan subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms 2021 – Kobi Sunday* expire April 30 of the year listed. For more 2022 – Sujata Goel information, see IMC 2.92. 2022 – Stephanie Salemann 2023 – AJ McGauley 2023 – Marisol Visser

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of October 28, 2019

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Staff report:

a) Board Schedule, (I)

4. AGENDA ITEMS

2020 Board Workplan

Discussion · 35 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.7–19

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Staff report:

2020 Board Workplan JANUARY 27, 2020 TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD

Mobility Master Plan Feedback - Board Homework, (D)

50 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.21–23

Topics: Transportation

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Staff report:

Issaquah Mobility Master Plan (MMP) Current Schedule 2019 2020 Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec

5. REPORTS

Staff Report

Chair Report

Youth Report

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

The next meeting is scheduled for February 24, 2020 at 6:00 p.m. in Council Chambers

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0:00 ↗ there we go okay all right so I will now

0:03 ↗ call to order at six o'clock the January

0:08 ↗ meeting of the transportation Advisory

0:10 ↗ Board

0:14 ↗ we just approve the minutes we don't

0:20 ↗ approve the agenda

0:21 ↗ I guess all right so I will entertain a

0:26 ↗ motion to approve the minutes from last

0:29 ↗ month anybody opposed

0:46 ↗ okay so minutes are approved from

0:48 ↗ October 28th do we have any public

0:50 ↗ comment this evening okay

0:54 ↗ okay so I will turn it over to Stephen

0:57 ↗ to start with the substantive agenda

1:00 ↗ items starting with the 2020 work plan

1:15 ↗ thank you so what we wanted to talk

1:19 ↗ about tonight it was primarily all the

1:21 ↗ work item items for 2020 a lot of them

1:25 ↗ you've already heard before but we're

1:27 ↗ gonna continue all of the same

1:28 ↗ conversations and hopefully go to

1:31 ↗ finalize most of those policy updates

1:33 ↗ that we had talked about but more

1:34 ↗ importantly the mobility master plan but

1:38 ↗ I also want to talk to you kind of near

1:40 ↗ the end of the presentation about other

1:42 ↗ topics that you might be interested in

1:43 ↗ including as part of your work where

1:45 ↗ some of that we'll talk about as part of

1:47 ↗ the mobility master plan as part of

1:50 ↗ implementation but is there any other

1:53 ↗ topics that we haven't talked about or

1:54 ↗ is there something that you want to

1:57 ↗ explore in your particular interest so

2:00 ↗ I'll have that question for you later on

2:01 ↗ let you contemplate on that so as you

2:04 ↗ know the mobility master plan is going

2:07 ↗ to be the city's long-range planning

2:08 ↗ document

2:09 ↗ looking at 20 plus years of investments

2:12 ↗ for transportation it's going to replace

2:14 ↗ the translation element in our

2:16 ↗ comprehensive plan so it'll hold all of

2:19 ↗ the guiding policies that that currently

2:21 ↗ has and they'll basically be two

2:23 ↗ mirrored documents we have to have a

2:26 ↗ translation held in the comp plan as

2:28 ↗ part of completing the whole complan and

2:32 ↗ what's required for the growth

2:32 ↗ management act and as you remember in

2:36 ↗ 2018 we took on a big public engagement

2:39 ↗ process to develop guiding principles

2:41 ↗ which helped us develop essentially the

2:45 ↗ primary policies that are going to fill

2:47 ↗ the mobility master plan and with the

2:51 ↗ help of the other boards and commissions

2:53 ↗ we formed Network policies that will

2:55 ↗ help us define how we want a future

2:57 ↗ network to look like for all modes not

2:59 ↗ just specifically proposed and then for

3:02 ↗ 2020 where you can probably look at

3:06 ↗ attachment a an attachment B and your

3:09 ↗ handouts and it shows the current and

3:11 ↗ old schedule there's a couple there's

3:14 ↗ changes I want to point out between the

3:17 ↗ two and the first being that there's

3:23 ↗ been a couple delays the first being

3:25 ↗ when the tab was working on the policies

3:27 ↗ it took a little extra time just to make

3:30 ↗ sure that everybody was comfortable with

3:31 ↗ the policies moving forward and so that

3:33 ↗ created a very small delay on the

3:34 ↗ schedule the other part was council

3:36 ↗ availability near the end of the year we

3:38 ↗ originally planned to go to council

3:40 ↗ before going to drafting of the plan but

3:44 ↗ that didn't that wasn't available to us

3:46 ↗ because council needed to focus on the

3:47 ↗ budget so that actually is creating a

3:51 ↗ kind of a three month delay in the

3:52 ↗ project schedules so it went from June

3:54 ↗ adoption in 2020 to September adoption

3:57 ↗ in 2020 it's not a huge delay or major

4:01 ↗ change in terms of how we're gonna be

4:04 ↗ operating later on but it is a change in

4:06 ↗ the schedule from what you originally

4:07 ↗ saw the other part that's changed

4:10 ↗ compared to what was originally the

4:13 ↗ schedule back in like June of 2019 is

4:17 ↗ the sequencing so if you look at the old

4:19 ↗ schedule there's like two or three

4:21 ↗ touches with city council that's changed

4:23 ↗ so that we can Aksum eyes the efficiency

4:26 ↗ of not only the tab but also with

4:28 ↗ council because if you look at the new

4:30 ↗ schedule the current schedule there's

4:32 ↗ gonna be in touch with council pretty

4:33 ↗ much every month starting in April and a

4:36 ↗ lot of that is gonna have lead time with

4:39 ↗ the tab with the previous month so in

4:41 ↗ April we'll have a policy discussion

4:43 ↗ with council in March we're gonna have a

4:46 ↗ policy discussion with the tab to kind

4:48 ↗ of prepare for that council discussion

4:50 ↗ and in April that'll be a joint session

4:53 ↗ with the tab chairs and City Council to

4:55 ↗ talk about all the drug policies that's

4:58 ↗ being proposed for the mobility master

4:59 ↗ plan and kind of the reasoning behind a

5:01 ↗ lot of it

5:03 ↗ any questions before I move on we have

5:06 ↗ dates for these meetings I'm on the

5:08 ↗ calendar yes I will send all the dates

5:10 ↗ out once they're finalized

5:14 ↗ right now they're looking at the first

5:16 ↗ study session of each month but once I

5:19 ↗ have that finalized I will send it out

5:20 ↗ all out to the next any other questions

5:28 ↗ I'm sorry before I would complete

5:29 ↗ streets the other major policy that

5:35 ↗ we're gonna be looking at updating this

5:36 ↗ year's Complete Streets this is in line

5:38 ↗ with the mobility master plan and

5:40 ↗ developing the tools that we need to

5:43 ↗ implement the mobility master plan the

5:45 ↗ Complete Streets policy is the city's

5:46 ↗ commitment that we're gonna have a

5:47 ↗ balanced system or balanced network of

5:50 ↗ modes using our roadways and that we're

5:52 ↗ gonna prioritize all the modes equally

5:55 ↗ it's not to say that's gonna happen

5:57 ↗ everywhere but it's really defining in

5:59 ↗ giving us direction how to really do

6:01 ↗ that because the current policy that's

6:03 ↗ in city code just says we want a

6:05 ↗ balanced roadway and doesn't really give

6:07 ↗ much direction so it hasn't really been

6:09 ↗ that helpful and so we're updating a lot

6:11 ↗ of that we're gonna provide correction

6:13 ↗ what that actually means for staff and

6:15 ↗ the community and you all saw a draft of

6:17 ↗ that back in October so you'll see

6:19 ↗ another chance of that next month prior

6:22 ↗ to the council meeting that we're hoping

6:23 ↗ to get reviewed by Council

6:28 ↗ any questions on that before I move on

6:32 ↗ okay

6:36 ↗ the next is the pedestrian crossing

6:39 ↗ guidelines this is a document that the

6:43 ↗ city uses to first design of many of our

6:46 ↗ crossings for pedestrians bicyclists in

6:48 ↗ our roadways but also has the policies

6:51 ↗ on says where we should be putting those

6:54 ↗ type of crossings currently those

6:56 ↗ policies aren't well defined and that's

6:58 ↗ part of what this update is is to give

7:00 ↗ us more detail on what those policies

7:04 ↗ should be but also in more updated tools

7:07 ↗ on what type of crossings we can have

7:09 ↗ currently it doesn't even it doesn't

7:11 ↗ identify any of any bike or green paints

7:16 ↗ any of the newer type of crossings that

7:18 ↗ we've seen in the last five to six years

7:20 ↗ that's become available to a lot of the

7:23 ↗ cities so a lot of that's gonna be

7:24 ↗ included in this new planning we're not

7:27 ↗ planning new guidelines to help staff

7:30 ↗ identify where and how things will get

7:33 ↗ installed that's something that you

7:36 ↗ we've talked about before but you

7:38 ↗ haven't really seen a draft with that

7:39 ↗ yeah that's gonna be coming later on

7:45 ↗ any questions on that

7:51 ↗ I was expecting more questions for you

7:53 ↗ guys I have a general question yes at

7:54 ↗ the end but when oh well okay I'll just

7:58 ↗ ask it now I guess and that's so the

8:02 ↗ complete streets the crossing guidelines

8:04 ↗ and the traffic calming policies just to

8:08 ↗ be clear - I understand our role I feel

8:11 ↗ like I'm always asking the same

8:12 ↗ questions over again but because we

8:14 ↗ don't meet that often and they seem to

8:15 ↗ forget from one meeting to the next but

8:18 ↗ yeah I guess it feels like a silly

8:20 ↗ question but just you're we've seen some

8:23 ↗ of this material are we is this body

8:25 ↗ actually making a recommendation to

8:27 ↗ Council or are you just kind of running

8:30 ↗ that bias to get it it's really a staff

8:32 ↗ recommendation that this board has seen

8:34 ↗ I mean are we putting forth something to

8:38 ↗ Council and what does that transmittal

8:39 ↗ look like or is it just something we

8:41 ↗ just give you some feedback but it's

8:42 ↗ really a staff recommendation to Council

8:44 ↗ that's I just want to clear what our

8:46 ↗ role and so when we ask you so when we

8:48 ↗ bring these policies to you like the

8:49 ↗ complete streets has a policy that we're

8:51 ↗ gonna update we're gonna be asking for

8:53 ↗ your recommendation that's something

8:55 ↗ that you'll vote on that will that we

8:57 ↗ will transmit to the City Council when

8:59 ↗ we bring it to the council and you

9:00 ↗ usually have somebody from the

9:02 ↗ committee's as part of that transmittal

9:04 ↗ process or is that just not defined it

9:06 ↗ arose that well we haven't done this

9:08 ↗ with you yet so it's really it's gonna

9:11 ↗ ask a question this would be our first

9:12 ↗ actual aside from our bylaws which we

9:16 ↗ get to kind of choose a month for

9:17 ↗ ourselves would this not be the first

9:19 ↗ thing we've actually formally first

9:21 ↗ product we would be transmitting to

9:23 ↗ Council it would be and so I just want

9:25 ↗ to be kind of mindful of that process

9:27 ↗ and

9:29 ↗ we don't want to make it overly resource

9:31 ↗ intensive and yet if it is gonna

9:33 ↗ represent you know this Ford and perhaps

9:37 ↗ that's there's a role to then be part of

9:40 ↗ that transmittal as I know right now

9:41 ↗ there's no formal expectation that you

9:44 ↗ either attend or you transmit the

9:48 ↗ recommendation yourself typically it's

9:50 ↗ done through staff staff will go to

9:52 ↗ Council and say this was the board's

9:54 ↗ recommendation and and answer any

9:55 ↗ questions that the council may be how

9:58 ↗ about our conversations but typically

10:01 ↗ it's not you going to council meeting

10:03 ↗ and handing it to I wouldn't expect it

10:05 ↗ to be us going to council may be

10:07 ↗ presented if it just seems like that

10:08 ↗ transmittal might be something we would

10:11 ↗ want to be involved in I mean that's how

10:12 ↗ we return I worked on the Planning

10:14 ↗ Commission before usually the chair of

10:16 ↗ the vice-chair which I'm not trying to

10:18 ↗ sign up for any more work but I just I

10:20 ↗ don't know what the rest of you feel but

10:21 ↗ it feels like if we're gonna be an

10:24 ↗ influential body that brings

10:26 ↗ recommendations that we put work into it

10:28 ↗ seems like attaching a representative

10:31 ↗ from this board sort of would be prudent

10:34 ↗ but maybe that's just not how things are

10:35 ↗ done in the city I don't know yeah or

10:38 ↗ like a letter of recommend there's

10:41 ↗ something about the transmission and the

10:44 ↗ interchange and like carrying back and

10:47 ↗ caring forth some messages that not that

10:49 ↗ the staff can't do it but it just seems

10:51 ↗ like it's a richer conversation if it's

11:00 ↗ so if it is in fact our recommendation

11:04 ↗ which obviously is heavily influenced by

11:05 ↗ staffs hard work anyway so I just wanted

11:11 ↗ to get clear on them and certainly not

11:15 ↗ insistent but I would guess I would

11:17 ↗ consider ask us to consider whether we

11:19 ↗ want to do that it'll be entirely up to

11:23 ↗ the board how you want to do that but I

11:24 ↗ will talk with the city clerk if there's

11:25 ↗ any expectations in terms what's

11:28 ↗ customary yeah like does the parks board

11:31 ↗ when they do their pro plan do they know

11:37 ↗ we're green hats you know I'm not sure

11:43 ↗ how the parks board has actually

11:44 ↗ transmitted to this I'll have to check

11:46 ↗ with them and the city clerk interests

11:48 ↗ like how that's been transmitted to from

11:50 ↗ board and Commission to City Council but

11:52 ↗ typically the way I've seen it is a

11:54 ↗ letter get letter of recommendation or

11:56 ↗ something gets submitted as part of the

12:00 ↗ staff report formalized formalizing that

12:02 ↗ transmittal to City Council and the

12:04 ↗ staff report and then someone might

12:06 ↗ attend as part of the public comment and

12:08 ↗ speak on that otherwise there's no any

12:11 ↗ other way to do it that I know of

12:15 ↗ so we can touch base with you on that

12:18 ↗ okay later once once I talked with the

12:20 ↗ city clerk thank you I know that I

12:24 ↗ wasn't a sheriff I sure but I know they

12:25 ↗ generally transmitted our

12:27 ↗ recommendations when I was on the

12:28 ↗ Planning Commission and I just remember

12:30 ↗ there was a lot of rich discussion about

12:32 ↗ some of the more I don't want to say

12:35 ↗ controversial but things that were that

12:36 ↗ were more involved and had more there

12:39 ↗ was more background there was more like

12:41 ↗ consider eight things that we considered

12:42 ↗ it was just a rich discussion on some of

12:45 ↗ the harder questions and if we're gonna

12:47 ↗ set up for delivering the mobility

12:49 ↗ master plan and we want them we want to

12:51 ↗ build trust and confidence in us as a

12:53 ↗ body that's all anyway just purchasing

12:59 ↗ the transportation manager just to add

13:04 ↗ on to some comments Steven made so first

13:07 ↗ of all this is a you're a new board and

13:09 ↗ we've never really we're still

13:12 ↗ developing our relationship with the

13:14 ↗ council so I think one thing for sure we

13:17 ↗ want to make sure we're following

13:18 ↗ process when we'll check on the clerk

13:20 ↗ without as far as how or is what their

13:23 ↗ role is in presenting the council but I

13:25 ↗ think you know back to what Steve was

13:28 ↗ saying you all should think about what

13:30 ↗ how you like to do that and propose how

13:33 ↗ you'd like to do that I don't think

13:34 ↗ would be out of line especially with

13:35 ↗ these first couple of things to at least

13:37 ↗ be there at the council meetings in case

13:40 ↗ some questions come up it's you are

13:43 ↗ after all the the recommending body on

13:46 ↗ all transportation issues to the City

13:49 ↗ Council so it shows commitment and

13:52 ↗ interest for you to to be there whether

13:53 ↗ you actually make a presentation or not

13:56 ↗ so I'd encourage that personally but I

13:58 ↗ think again that Stephen says it's up to

14:00 ↗ you and the city clerk sure

14:08 ↗ that help answer your question okay

14:12 ↗ so we'll follow up with you on how what

14:15 ↗ kind of our options are and then Stephen

14:18 ↗ is on this point but actually on the

14:20 ↗ crossing guidelines and if we're ready

14:22 ↗ to so I think I vaguely remember at the

14:27 ↗ end of the October meeting we had gone

14:29 ↗ through some of the sort of the

14:31 ↗ documents we were going to use to define

14:34 ↗ how how we implemented some of this and

14:37 ↗ I remember we were talking about like

14:39 ↗ you know whether it's October and you

14:42 ↗ know whatever the standards were that

14:44 ↗ we're out there so when you bring us

14:48 ↗ stuff around like crossing guidelines

14:49 ↗ and stuff is that is that sort of the

14:52 ↗ source data you're gonna be bringing us

14:54 ↗ as like these are sort of the different

14:55 ↗ types of recommendations we have and

14:58 ↗ what these you know what sort of the

15:02 ↗ know the best in the business or the

15:05 ↗ brightest brains in the business think

15:06 ↗ we should be doing as far as

15:07 ↗ implementing it's gonna be sort of more

15:10 ↗ like recommendations that come out of

15:13 ↗ those kind of bodies yes in terms of

15:17 ↗ like the engineering standards or the

15:19 ↗ technical side of it we're just pulling

15:21 ↗ all we're just updating all the modern

15:23 ↗ tools that we have available to us we'll

15:25 ↗ bring to use the policy questions of how

15:28 ↗ often should we put a crosswalk in or in

15:30 ↗ what locations should be prioritized for

15:32 ↗ crosswalks

15:34 ↗ okay thank you

15:36 ↗ verses like this versus should we put in

15:38 ↗ a rapid flashing beacon or flags like

15:43 ↗ those those kind of things there's a lot

15:45 ↗ more technical yeah okay we can use to

15:47 ↗ us to guide us on those okay for the

15:51 ↗ policies of okay so we're gonna take a

15:53 ↗ step back and talk more at the policy

15:55 ↗ laughs okay thank you

15:59 ↗ we would need a few more meetings to

16:00 ↗ talk what level of detail are we going

16:05 ↗ into we want green crossings or blue

16:07 ↗ crossings getting any of this

16:10 ↗ color-coded for a reason any other

16:16 ↗ questions okay along the same lines and

16:24 ↗ one thing I should mention is a lot of

16:26 ↗ how we move forward and all these other

16:29 ↗ policy updates and updating our tools

16:31 ↗ it's kind of working around the mobility

16:33 ↗ master plan so if if one meetings gonna

16:36 ↗ take need a longer conversation the

16:38 ↗ bully a master plan this might get

16:39 ↗ pushed to another meeting or delayed

16:42 ↗ which is okay because a lot of this a

16:44 ↗ lot of these policies ideas are part of

16:46 ↗ the implementation of the mobility

16:48 ↗ master plan anyway so we want to make

16:50 ↗ sure that we have enough time for the

16:52 ↗ mobility master plan and save these four

16:55 ↗ times where we have extra time with the

16:59 ↗ traffic calming policy a lot of what we

17:01 ↗ had talked about last last time last

17:04 ↗ October was a general direction and

17:08 ↗ general feeling of approach we want to

17:11 ↗ have with this policy and and a lot of

17:14 ↗ what this policy is gonna do is update

17:16 ↗ how we address traffic calming issues

17:18 ↗ right now there is a process to find in

17:21 ↗ our policy but it's very difficult to

17:23 ↗ implement and pretty much no one is

17:27 ↗ happy with it which is which kind of

17:29 ↗ stemmed and led to updating the policy

17:32 ↗ in the first place so when we come to

17:34 ↗ you with the policy update we're gonna

17:36 ↗ be talking about an approach that we

17:37 ↗ want to go with that we think addresses

17:40 ↗ a lot of the major concerns that people

17:41 ↗ have brought up about the policy in the

17:43 ↗ first place

17:46 ↗ any questions on that okay

17:51 ↗ and there's other topics that we haven't

17:54 ↗ really touched on that well you might

17:56 ↗ actually see this year and the first

17:57 ↗ being the transportation Paul

17:59 ↗ translation Improvement Program and what

18:03 ↗ this is is a state right requirement

18:04 ↗ that we submit a document the tip that

18:08 ↗ has all of our transportation projects

18:11 ↗ that comply with state regulations this

18:13 ↗ is part of the growth management Act and

18:15 ↗ making sure that we are complying with a

18:18 ↗ lot of the state and federal regulations

18:21 ↗ around transportation typically this was

18:26 ↗ shown to the Planning Policy Commission

18:28 ↗ but now that we have you all the

18:31 ↗ translation visor e board he actually

18:34 ↗ seems more fitting for you to be

18:35 ↗ reviewing this document when we put it

18:37 ↗ together and then send it into the state

18:39 ↗ every year and the same goes for the

18:42 ↗ capital improvement plan the the two are

18:44 ↗ actually identical we use what we

18:46 ↗ developed in the capital improvement

18:47 ↗ plan which is developed actually every

18:50 ↗ two years to submit that information as

18:54 ↗ our test station provement program to

18:56 ↗ the state each year how they all get

19:02 ↗ formed might get impacted by the

19:05 ↗ mobility master plan we don't know that

19:06 ↗ yet until we start to implement the

19:09 ↗ mobility master plan into a lot of that

19:10 ↗ other planning processes so that's

19:13 ↗ something about we will talk about later

19:14 ↗ on

19:17 ↗ any questions on those two those are

19:19 ↗ ones are a little more info okay

19:22 ↗ other major topics that we might

19:24 ↗ actually talk about this year is gonna

19:26 ↗ be transit and Light Rail two major

19:28 ↗ topics for us primarily because they're

19:32 ↗ gonna be moved that's gonna be our

19:34 ↗ primary mode to move the most people

19:36 ↗ most efficiently and a lot of that's

19:39 ↗ gonna be depending on relationships with

19:40 ↗ our transit agencies but also how we

19:43 ↗ develop our plan for what we want our

19:45 ↗ transit system to look like in the

19:46 ↗ future

19:47 ↗ we're not slated to be developing a

19:49 ↗ transit plan until later next year 2021

19:52 ↗ but we actually want to start that

19:54 ↗ conversation sooner so that we get a

19:56 ↗ little bit of a head start and using

19:58 ↗ some of this mobility master plan work

19:59 ↗ to start some of that but have those

20:02 ↗ conversations of how to answer that

20:04 ↗ question what do we actually want to

20:05 ↗ transit network to look like because

20:06 ↗ currently what it looks like nobody who

20:08 ↗ likes that much we people that use the

20:11 ↗ transit centers but we don't really know

20:13 ↗ if they're all is well residents so is

20:15 ↗ it really benefiting this community we

20:17 ↗ want to answer those kind of questions

20:18 ↗ when we look at transit later on

20:22 ↗ and then another major work item for the

20:26 ↗ city this year is gonna be the

20:27 ↗ implementation of the citywide strategic

20:29 ↗ plan a lot of that relates to how we

20:31 ↗ implement the mobility master plan but

20:33 ↗ we might come to you with policy

20:35 ↗ questions related to implementation of

20:38 ↗ transit of near-term projects how to

20:41 ↗ prioritize some of those some of that

20:43 ↗ will be kind of driven by the mobility

20:44 ↗ master plan but will come up to you with

20:47 ↗ those kind of policy questions

20:50 ↗ any questions on those two I'm welcome

20:55 ↗ thank you are there any topics that and

21:05 ↗ I kind of want to open the floor a

21:07 ↗ little bit someone going to the mobility

21:09 ↗ master plans schedule a little more

21:10 ↗ detail are there any other topics that

21:13 ↗ you all are interested in or and don't

21:16 ↗ see on this list and that could be

21:20 ↗ related to somebody review of the the

21:22 ↗ planning documents down and you kind of

21:23 ↗ looked as pretty homework but and we'll

21:26 ↗ talk about that later but I just wanted

21:29 ↗ to open the floor for any other topics

21:31 ↗ that you would want to see um I actually

21:37 ↗ did have a comment yes so I was looking

21:40 ↗ at the Redmond master mobility plan and

21:43 ↗ they had a section dedicated to parking

21:45 ↗ and I thought that would be beneficial

21:48 ↗ to add into our policy development so in

21:55 ↗ terms of other topics for the tab are

21:58 ↗ this is there anything do you want to

22:01 ↗ have a meeting or an agenda item on

22:05 ↗ parking where you learn a little bit

22:06 ↗ more about what the city is doing

22:10 ↗ let's say yes looking at some of the

22:12 ↗ others they addressed parking okay and I

22:15 ↗ think it'd be good to talk about what I

22:17 ↗ can we have here and how can used or

22:20 ↗ changed or rest okay any other topics

22:31 ↗ that you can think of right now we'll

22:33 ↗ talk about elements of the master pilot

22:36 ↗ later for in terms of like our meetings

22:38 ↗ and then agendas stand anything else

22:40 ↗ that you might want to see

22:44 ↗ okay I bet and I know we'll have

22:48 ↗ something I'm sure and I don't have some

22:49 ↗ some topic she would like to bring up

22:51 ↗ with her later I do have a question

22:54 ↗ about traffic calming with other modes

22:58 ↗ of transportation such as transit and

23:00 ↗ light rail are we talking about possible

23:02 ↗ line bikes or stuff along that we're in

23:06 ↗ that vein or is that just walk and roll

23:08 ↗ when that when that comes into play like

23:10 ↗ how are we incorporating that if at all

23:12 ↗ cuz I know it's come up a couple times

23:13 ↗ do we want to plan for you know not

23:17 ↗ pedestrian but not a normal bike right

23:22 ↗ it's part of what might get recommended

23:24 ↗ recommended out of this plan and what we

23:26 ↗ heard from a lot of people is they just

23:28 ↗ want to see a lot more options

23:29 ↗ so how line bike or bike share or

23:32 ↗ scooter share or whatever whatever it

23:35 ↗ might be that would be something that we

23:38 ↗ might tackle separate from even the walk

23:40 ↗ and roll plan okay because that is

23:42 ↗ something that's available now and

23:44 ↗ something that a lot of people are

23:45 ↗ trying to take advantage of so it might

23:48 ↗ be something as soon as we adopt this

23:50 ↗ plan that there's a demand for scooter

23:53 ↗ share bike share then staff and we'll

23:55 ↗ start looking into it and work with you

23:57 ↗ in terms of like any policy questions we

23:59 ↗ might have around that okay

24:04 ↗ okay so I'm gonna take a look a little

24:09 ↗ closer at the mobile a masterplan

24:10 ↗ schedule what we're gonna be doing this

24:14 ↗ year and for the next couple months I'll

24:17 ↗ just start with that following this

24:19 ↗ meeting we're gonna be kicking off

24:20 ↗ engagement in February through March and

24:23 ↗ then into early April leading up to the

24:25 ↗ April meeting April 14th meeting with

24:27 ↗ City Council where we talk about

24:29 ↗ policies that we're proposing to put

24:31 ↗ into the plan and what my that may look

24:34 ↗ like is looking at the major policy so

24:38 ↗ vision zero being one of those policies

24:41 ↗ that this part is brought up a couple of

24:43 ↗ times of having emphasis on safety how

24:45 ↗ do we do that and what that policy might

24:47 ↗ look like in the and talk about kind of

24:49 ↗ the impacts of those policies maybe have

24:52 ↗ example projects of what that may mean

24:55 ↗ and have that conversation with City

24:57 ↗ Council and that way we get a little

24:59 ↗ better direction to now work on a

25:01 ↗ project list and set priorities on

25:07 ↗ priority criteria so we can prioritize

25:10 ↗ that project lists and and eventually

25:12 ↗ lead to the draft plan and that's that's

25:15 ↗ essentially the sequence that'll start

25:16 ↗ in April so April's that policy

25:18 ↗ discussion may is finalizing the policy

25:21 ↗ and then start talking about projects

25:23 ↗ June will actually start talking about

25:25 ↗ our prioritized project lists and then

25:28 ↗ July August we'll have a draft review

25:30 ↗ conversation with City Council leading

25:32 ↗ up to adoption in September and a lot of

25:36 ↗ that is gonna be having you know the the

25:39 ↗ May meeting with council we'll have the

25:41 ↗ April meeting with the tab to talk about

25:43 ↗ the same topic so we can go to Council

25:44 ↗ with the tabs recommendation each of the

25:46 ↗ topics

25:49 ↗ you're gonna have a question yes would

25:51 ↗ the public outreach that's happening in

25:53 ↗ february/march what like what is that

25:57 ↗ outreach or what does it look like her

25:59 ↗ mm-hmm

26:01 ↗ right now we're looking at several

26:03 ↗ stakeholder meetings a lot of the people

26:04 ↗ that have been interested in the in this

26:06 ↗ process and developing the master plan

26:08 ↗ we're gonna go to them and talk about a

26:10 ↗ lot of the policies that we talked with

26:12 ↗ you and the other boards and commissions

26:13 ↗ so the network policies of what what it

26:16 ↗ might look like for cyclists versus

26:18 ↗ pedestrians versus the auto Network and

26:21 ↗ answering questions that groups might

26:24 ↗ have about Freight or transit access so

26:26 ↗ it's it's going to them and saying these

26:29 ↗ are the kind of policies that the boards

26:30 ↗ and commissions that helped us kind of

26:32 ↗ refine this is how it may impact you so

26:35 ↗ maybe having example projects explaining

26:38 ↗ okay this is what the policy may say

26:40 ↗ this is the projects that may come out

26:42 ↗ of that and we can't really say when

26:44 ↗ that might happen but this is kind of

26:46 ↗ the impact on the community on on the

26:48 ↗ stakeholders and get feedback on if

26:53 ↗ that's in the direction of what they

26:55 ↗ originally told us or if if they meant

26:57 ↗ something else okay and then so before

27:00 ↗ you go out will we have an opportunity

27:02 ↗ to see what they're gonna be presenting

27:06 ↗ or what policy questions you're gonna be

27:08 ↗ trying to address sir yes yes we're

27:15 ↗ hoping to start many of the meetings in

27:18 ↗ mid-february okay so it's between now

27:20 ↗ and our next meeting in February oh yeah

27:22 ↗ okay so we will yes I can update you in

27:26 ↗ terms of like the kind of information

27:28 ↗ that'll be going out to everyone even if

27:30 ↗ you just email us and like yeah thank

27:33 ↗ you

27:33 ↗ after that it's at an open house for is

27:36 ↗ it internal it was a really a open house

27:38 ↗ for public to come in something that we

27:40 ↗ can attend

27:42 ↗ most of the meetings will be public that

27:45 ↗ we'll have in terms of like this

27:46 ↗ stakeholder meetings right now we're not

27:47 ↗ planning to have a big open hall meeting

27:51 ↗ because that hasn't really been very

27:52 ↗ successful here and we're trying to

27:54 ↗ think about staff resources and making

27:56 ↗ sure that we're efficient and effective

27:58 ↗ with what we're planning for our

28:00 ↗ engagement and so far the smaller

28:01 ↗ stakeholder meetings multiple smaller

28:03 ↗ stakeholder meetings seems to be more

28:05 ↗ effective for a lot of getting feedback

28:07 ↗ for our projects okay that may change

28:12 ↗ later on if let's say Neighborhood

28:15 ↗ Association says they would like to have

28:16 ↗ a big public meeting we would we would

28:19 ↗ do that question yes can you tell me

28:29 ↗ more about the council study session in

28:30 ↗ January of 2020 yes that was a week and

28:35 ↗ a half ago and it was cancelled because

28:36 ↗ of the snow so we are updating Council

28:40 ↗ with a memo on a lot of the information

28:41 ↗ that we were going to provide them in

28:43 ↗ that study session so I didn't then but

28:46 ↗ we are still giving council the

28:47 ↗ information about where we are in the

28:49 ↗ process and a lot of what change in the

28:52 ↗ schedule what we're gonna be talking

28:54 ↗ about in April and how to prepare for

28:56 ↗ that okay we'll be good to if there's

29:00 ↗ any substantive feedback that we should

29:02 ↗ consider just to understand where

29:04 ↗ they're like it's a little I'm not

29:07 ↗ really clear on where they stand on all

29:09 ↗ these issues so sounds like it's gonna

29:11 ↗ be more process mm-hmm substance but

29:15 ↗ yeah it'd be interesting to hear what

29:17 ↗ they have to say when it gets to the

29:18 ↗ substantive issues and I think a lot of

29:21 ↗ what we make is gonna be coming at that

29:25 ↗ April meeting we're gonna try to build

29:29 ↗ up to that as much as possible to make

29:30 ↗ sure that we have enough information for

29:32 ↗ that conversation to be effective but at

29:34 ↗ the same time we have to follow the

29:36 ↗ council process on their conversations

29:38 ↗ and use the study sessions that are

29:40 ↗ scheduled

29:44 ↗ any other questions on the schedule okay

29:55 ↗ so for the tab we have your meetings at

30:00 ↗ least planned out until June and a lot

30:03 ↗ of that is kind of depending on how the

30:04 ↗ work progresses on the mobility master

30:06 ↗ plan but so far next month we're hoping

30:09 ↗ to bring to you a draft of the Complete

30:10 ↗ Streets just a refined draft of what you

30:13 ↗ saw last October because we took a lot

30:15 ↗ of your feedback and incorporate it into

30:17 ↗ the language and we have staff that's

30:21 ↗ gonna be reviewing that soon so well I

30:23 ↗ would drive hopefully for you by the end

30:25 ↗ of February and then the crossing

30:27 ↗ guidelines is if there's time to have a

30:30 ↗ conversation about the crossing

30:31 ↗ guidelines otherwise that might be that

30:33 ↗ might get moved to another meeting and

30:35 ↗ then March will start talking about the

30:38 ↗ draft or the draft policies for the

30:42 ↗ mobility master plan and then talk about

30:44 ↗ some of our engagements this engagement

30:47 ↗ will have just ended before this meet

30:49 ↗ the March meeting we might not have the

30:51 ↗ full results but we'll talk about a lot

30:53 ↗ of this to what we heard in the

30:54 ↗ stakeholder meetings as part of our

30:56 ↗ March meeting

31:01 ↗ and then April we'll talk about

31:05 ↗ finalizing those policies following the

31:07 ↗ meeting with City Council on April 14th

31:09 ↗ and then kind of introduced the draft

31:12 ↗ project list which will help our

31:15 ↗ conversation with Council in May and

31:17 ↗ then we'll talk about a prioritized

31:19 ↗ project list and melee are the tab

31:21 ↗ meeting in May leading up to the June

31:25 ↗ conversation with the City Council and

31:27 ↗ then the same goes for the June talking

31:29 ↗ about a draft and recommendation for

31:31 ↗ City Council on the mobility master plan

31:33 ↗ any questions on at least the draft

31:37 ↗ schedule okay any expectations that you

31:45 ↗ were hoping to see maybe in at least

31:47 ↗ early this year

31:52 ↗ okay

31:54 ↗ well do you want to just go into the

31:55 ↗ board homework or open up to general

31:57 ↗ questions all right let's move on to 3b

32:08 ↗ okay

32:09 ↗ oh yeah there's two twos that would make

32:12 ↗ it for the to choose okay well so over

32:28 ↗ the winter break we cancelled the

32:29 ↗ November and December meetings to

32:33 ↗ replace that we asked the board to

32:34 ↗ provide homework we've provided you with

32:37 ↗ homework and asked you to talk with

32:39 ↗ friends colleagues anyone in the

32:43 ↗ community about mobility and ask them

32:46 ↗ some questions about what they know and

32:48 ↗ talk to them hopefully talked about some

32:50 ↗ of the work that we're doing at least

32:51 ↗ they came for a lot of the work

32:52 ↗ particularly with the mobility master

32:54 ↗ plan and what we were hoping to get from

32:57 ↗ you is one getting a couple more

32:59 ↗ perspectives of other people who use the

33:02 ↗ system and how they use it and maybe

33:05 ↗ identify major issues that you got out

33:07 ↗ of those conversations with other people

33:08 ↗ in the community the other part that we

33:10 ↗ wanted we're hoping to get out of that

33:14 ↗ is potentially things that we haven't

33:19 ↗ thought of before or they haven't talked

33:20 ↗ about yet that we would want to identify

33:22 ↗ as part of the mobility master plan and

33:24 ↗ so we were just hoping to use your

33:28 ↗ winter break to talk to more people and

33:31 ↗ now I'd like to kind of open up the

33:34 ↗ floor to what you heard oh the other

33:37 ↗ partner I'm sorry the other part of your

33:38 ↗ homework was to review planning

33:40 ↗ documents existing city planning

33:42 ↗ documents as well as the other planning

33:43 ↗ documents from other agencies so the

33:45 ↗ translation master plan for both for

33:48 ↗ city of Kirkland City of Redmond and

33:50 ↗ City Olympia

33:51 ↗ provided the city in Libya because that

33:53 ↗ was actually the most most recent

33:56 ↗ translation master plan that I could

33:57 ↗ find and for some of you who went to the

33:59 ↗ website and look through it they have a

34:01 ↗ really cool story map instead of the

34:04 ↗ planning document that you look through

34:05 ↗ explaining all of their chapters and

34:07 ↗ exactly what they're trying to do which

34:09 ↗ is part of the reason why I wanted you

34:11 ↗ to go to that just kind of see what a

34:14 ↗ lot of the newer are for presenting a

34:17 ↗ lot of those master plans so back to my

34:21 ↗ another question what did what did you

34:23 ↗ hear in your conversations have

34:34 ↗ something to say just taking them to

34:37 ↗ muster yeah it's yeah in terms of like

34:45 ↗ my interviews I talked a few family

34:49 ↗ members and then also a friend who just

34:51 ↗ moved back from Korea so Seoul and so

34:55 ↗ she gave me a lot of insight about how

34:58 ↗ in Seoul they used transportation in

35:00 ↗ there she said it was very intuitive to

35:04 ↗ use different modes of transportation

35:07 ↗ and so it would be like letting the

35:08 ↗ subway and then getting on a line bike

35:10 ↗ and then maybe riding a bus to where you

35:12 ↗ need to go versus here it seems that the

35:15 ↗ most intuitive form of transportation is

35:17 ↗ just to get into your car because that

35:18 ↗ is the most accessible and easiest for a

35:22 ↗ lot of people and so that was something

35:24 ↗ that I just wanted to bring to the board

35:26 ↗ about thinking about how we can advise

35:29 ↗ to make transportation more intuitive

35:31 ↗ for other people

35:35 ↗ all right so I talked to a few family

35:39 ↗ members a few from Minnesota and a few

35:44 ↗ students at the high school and so what

35:46 ↗ I got from like my family members they

35:50 ↗ mostly just said widen the roads and so

35:52 ↗ I tried to like explain how that

35:53 ↗ wouldn't really work but they a lot of

35:56 ↗ people are kind of stuck in that mindset

35:59 ↗ so then I also talked to a few students

36:02 ↗ at the high school and they were saying

36:04 ↗ how if you just tried to do something

36:07 ↗ with the high schools traffic like a lot

36:09 ↗ of the other traffic would be alleviated

36:11 ↗ they were like make a road behind the

36:13 ↗ high school try to like make more exit

36:15 ↗ stuff like that build new roads build

36:18 ↗ different roads like they just want a

36:19 ↗ solution to the traffic around the high

36:22 ↗ school and then I started asking about

36:24 ↗ like other parts of the city and talked

36:28 ↗ about Front Street a little bit and they

36:30 ↗ said well widen the roads and I'm like

36:32 ↗ okay well would you have to push off the

36:35 ↗ buildings back and then like okay well

36:36 ↗ maybe you can't do that and so that's

36:39 ↗ kind of the farthest I got with them

36:41 ↗ just widen their oaths new roads other

36:44 ↗ places

36:49 ↗ so yeah I talked to a lot of my

36:52 ↗ neighbors and I was trying to find

36:55 ↗ people who lived in this a quest

36:56 ↗ attached to a lot of neighbors in the

36:58 ↗ community and traffic was definitely a

37:02 ↗ big frustration for people and living on

37:07 ↗ you part with all these new communities

37:12 ↗ being built up so the question about you

37:15 ↗ know can our roads handle this kind of

37:17 ↗ traffic and we have room for more people

37:19 ↗ on the roads etc so a lot of kind of

37:22 ↗ those kind of comments around that and

37:24 ↗ then it's good you brought up parking

37:26 ↗ because parking was another thing I

37:29 ↗ think more and more people well and then

37:32 ↗ it was funny because I wound up talking

37:33 ↗ to somebody from North Bend about this

37:34 ↗ too but more and more people really see

37:37 ↗ it's akua's sort of where they go on a

37:39 ↗ Friday night to go out and enjoy so

37:42 ↗ people will come from like North Bend or

37:44 ↗ carnation or wherever and they come into

37:46 ↗ it's a quad to have a night out and they

37:49 ↗ felt like the parking in our commercial

37:52 ↗ district was sorely lacking so that was

37:57 ↗ one of the other big comments yeah and

38:00 ↗ then people were a couple of people I

38:02 ↗ talked to who use the car park and ride

38:04 ↗ we're really happy with the location of

38:06 ↗ the park and ride and with the capacity

38:08 ↗ of the park and ride as long as you get

38:11 ↗ there before nine o'clock but and then

38:16 ↗ the frequency of bus routes and the

38:19 ↗ efficiency of those bus routes at least

38:21 ↗ to get to downtown Seattle cuz over

38:23 ↗ downtown Seattle commuters so the

38:25 ↗ efficiency of the bus routes from our

38:28 ↗ Park and Ride to downtown Seattle is a

38:30 ↗ very convenient connection

38:35 ↗ okay so the first thing I was just gonna

38:38 ↗ say is I'm glad we did this because it

38:40 ↗ made me realize is that for the people

38:43 ↗ that I talk to then they now know about

38:46 ↗ this committee and then I served on this

38:48 ↗ committee so and I finished by saying if

38:51 ↗ there you have anything else come up

38:52 ↗ don't hesitate to give me a call you

38:54 ↗ know we don't have that much influence

38:56 ↗ an advisory body but I just it's just

38:58 ↗ kind of nice to give people one more we

39:00 ↗ know in touch point into the city to

39:03 ↗ make it feel more like they have think

39:07 ↗ about that was a surprise and I

39:09 ↗ appreciated that so I interviewed two

39:12 ↗ one my neighbor and another not too far

39:15 ↗ but also also downtown is tapaa so it's

39:18 ↗ not super surprising what their

39:19 ↗ questions were and then I interviewed a

39:22 ↗ woman who for the past six years have

39:24 ↗ lived in Snoqualmie incarnation but

39:27 ↗ commuted into a saccade daily for day

39:30 ↗ care and so I thought that would be a

39:33 ↗ good mix of people and so the first

39:37 ↗ person I talked to talked a lot about

39:39 ↗ trying to find an equitable way to

39:41 ↗ figure out what to do about the past

39:44 ↗ through traffic primarily front street

39:45 ↗ in Issaquah Hobart Road and recognizing

39:49 ↗ there's no simple answer but about how

39:52 ↗ to fix it and also just really sort of

39:54 ↗ asking the question about what is our

39:57 ↗ responsibility because he had the

40:00 ↗ general sense that it was that we have

40:03 ↗ an unfair burden that we're having to

40:05 ↗ build you know specially down that you

40:07 ↗ know the front street corridor to

40:08 ↗ accommodate traffic did for people that

40:11 ↗ aren't originating Issaquah and if I

40:13 ↗ remember correctly there is technology

40:14 ↗ out there that can help us answer that

40:16 ↗ question but we don't ever use that yet

40:19 ↗ to get some definitive answers or do we

40:21 ↗ we don't have a sense of the percentage

40:23 ↗ of people that pass through so primarily

40:26 ↗ front street is what comes up all the

40:28 ↗ time that are passed through what their

40:29 ↗ origin and destiny

40:30 ↗ is right we can but we don't we haven't

40:34 ↗ done we're actually in that process

40:35 ↗ right so one thing this can be released

40:38 ↗ in the next week or two is our transit

40:40 ↗ conditions report and that's gonna

40:42 ↗ include regional passenger traffic

40:43 ↗ analysis on a lot of that so we'll have

40:45 ↗ percentages of people who either

40:48 ↗ originated or end their trips in

40:50 ↗ Issaquah and during the AM or PM peak

40:53 ↗ travel times or people who don't stop

40:55 ↗ and just call it all and so we'll have

40:57 ↗ those percentages as part of this

40:58 ↗ analysis so then so that would be I

41:01 ↗ mentioned that and that was very and the

41:04 ↗ way the way it works is we're using the

41:06 ↗ company called street light which uses

41:07 ↗ cell phone GPS data and so

41:51 ↗ you

43:10 ↗ wouldn't have so much gridlock at

43:12 ↗ certain times of the day and people

43:13 ↗ could continue on their way so I thought

43:15 ↗ that was interesting another interesting

43:17 ↗ point that somebody brought up which I

43:19 ↗ thought was worth mentioning

43:22 ↗ when we do fill vacancies in this

43:25 ↗ committee we should and maybe you've

43:26 ↗ already thought of this but thought was

43:27 ↗ worth mentioning make sure that large

43:29 ↗ employers have representation on this

43:32 ↗ committee so some of our gaming at

43:36 ↗ Costco right right and I know you have

43:38 ↗ other outreach mechanisms to them

43:40 ↗ directly but it might be interesting for

43:42 ↗ them to have representation on this

43:44 ↗ committee

43:47 ↗ yeah people walk in the intersection was

43:50 ↗ a big hot button and then just an

43:54 ↗ interest in maybe some smart technology

43:56 ↗ to help inform people that maybe not

43:58 ↗ don't come here often about when the

43:59 ↗ best time is to come but and not come so

44:03 ↗ like people are mindful of school you

44:05 ↗ know let's not try to drive down Front

44:07 ↗ Street at 3:30 in the afternoon us types

44:09 ↗ of things

44:11 ↗ [Applause]

44:18 ↗ I'm kind of in a unique position because

44:20 ↗ I run the restaurant so I get to kind of

44:22 ↗ pick people's brains all the time which

44:24 ↗ is kind of cool so I got a lot of the

44:26 ↗ same feedback but I thought it was

44:29 ↗ really interesting that the first thing

44:31 ↗ anybody said to me was parking that's

44:33 ↗ all anybody cares about downtown as far

44:36 ↗ as the relation to being in the

44:38 ↗ restaurant if they're on the way home I

44:41 ↗ have a lot of guests that would rather

44:44 ↗ sit at happy hour with me then sit on

44:46 ↗ Hobart for an hour to try and get out of

44:48 ↗ town

44:49 ↗ so I noticed just for my own personal

44:52 ↗ information but my happy hour numbers

44:54 ↗ have we get a hit because of traffic

44:57 ↗ which that's kind of the idea but but be

45:02 ↗ on both sides of the issue right now

45:05 ↗ it's something that I didn't think about

45:07 ↗ until we were talking about it because

45:09 ↗ people would much rather sit and watch

45:11 ↗ the ESPN for an hour than sit in the

45:13 ↗ traffic just to get through town kind of

45:16 ↗ touching on how you know how many people

45:18 ↗ are just trying to get home versus I'm

45:21 ↗ trying to get home but it's still gonna

45:22 ↗ take me 45 minutes to get home because I

45:24 ↗ live in this quad another one with

45:29 ↗ people that live downtown they want it

45:31 ↗ to stay looking like old town but they

45:33 ↗ want us to build more roads but they

45:36 ↗ don't have any options like well where

45:37 ↗ do we put a new bro if you want to build

45:39 ↗ it you know so flyovers is just what

45:45 ↗ we're paying for stuff so I want to see

45:47 ↗ stuff in front of me and I want to be

45:48 ↗ able to use it versus actually thinking

45:50 ↗ through you know how can we calm traffic

45:53 ↗ or can we push it somewhere else if we

45:55 ↗ provide a Transit Center in a different

45:57 ↗ spot adding lanes especially in front

46:02 ↗ street and I had the same conversation

46:03 ↗ that's like its historical building site

46:05 ↗ where would you like this extra

46:13 ↗ but safety was never an issue nobody

46:15 ↗ really was concerned about walking

46:17 ↗ around downtown I think it's a little

46:19 ↗ dark personally just working in old town

46:22 ↗ where I'm at if you have to walk around

46:24 ↗ the back of a building it sometimes can

46:26 ↗ be a little dark but as far as getting

46:28 ↗ around safely I think we're doing an

46:30 ↗ okay job at the moment downtown as far

46:32 ↗ as the public is concerned I don't think

46:34 ↗ that I didn't get the feeling that

46:36 ↗ people were really concerned about just

46:37 ↗ being a pedestrian it was more I can't

46:40 ↗ find a parking spot when I try and come

46:42 ↗ down and hang out I thought that was a

46:45 ↗ little bit interesting that non moving

46:46 ↗ vehicles were more important than

46:48 ↗ anything else in Old Town specifically

46:54 ↗ now all the tests in the parking just

46:59 ↗ for example coming down with the open

47:00 ↗ mind here at the at the positions you

47:03 ↗ can't find a parking spot so people

47:04 ↗ don't want to park a couple blocks away

47:06 ↗ and carry their instruments and stuff to

47:07 ↗ it so it's just amperes like little

47:10 ↗ community things that happen downtown

47:14 ↗ the feel of this probably the three

47:18 ↗ major things one is they all everybody

47:21 ↗ wanted to fix the right turn lane at

47:23 ↗ Newport going on the Wildwood and then

47:27 ↗ it's making that there are two lanes

47:28 ↗ there and making the right lane I'll

47:31 ↗ brake turn it only so people could live

47:32 ↗ all up squat Mountain can make a right

47:34 ↗ turn I'd have to sit behind everybody

47:36 ↗ else that's like to find that lane

47:37 ↗ there's blocked by a intersection

47:40 ↗ between there and let's go hurry ready

47:42 ↗ to go out that way

47:43 ↗ like everybody that's can why can't that

47:46 ↗ be done and the other complaint was just

47:48 ↗ being able to get across town to the

47:51 ↗ other side where there's a Costco PCC

47:53 ↗ Home Depot Lowe's stuff on the outside

47:56 ↗ or to go out to 900 to get on the

47:58 ↗ freeway to go into Seattle that the

48:00 ↗ traffic has just backed up almost more

48:04 ↗ so on the weekend for a longer length of

48:05 ↗ time than it is during the day during

48:07 ↗ the peak are you talking north-south get

48:11 ↗ across so get on the other side I ninety

48:13 ↗ or he's two one

48:15 ↗ thank you from the side of the 90 to the

48:17 ↗ other side an idea it's just that both

48:20 ↗ the front Street intersection or

48:23 ↗ intersection interchange and that 900

48:26 ↗ interchange just all be backed up and

48:29 ↗ it's general feeling that the new under

48:31 ↗ cost is kind of like our secret way to

48:33 ↗ get to there and don't let anybody else

48:35 ↗ know say that's a great cheap way to get

48:38 ↗ across because that allows access to to

48:45 ↗ the other side and has been discovered

48:47 ↗ by everybody else yeah those are there

48:50 ↗ the main thing was just the traffic and

48:53 ↗ I think the thing on newport is because

48:54 ↗ of all the pass through traffic that

48:56 ↗ people will start going home by when

48:59 ↗ they're coming from seattle from the

49:01 ↗ parking lot up over the mountain like

49:04 ↗ mountain in the back roads mountain side

49:05 ↗ view drive and coming down the backside

49:07 ↗ because they can't do new part then the

49:10 ↗ other thing that probably take from my

49:12 ↗ wife has just been l to like what you

49:15 ↗ need to be downtown sometimes it's like

49:17 ↗ very flustered about how they get to the

49:18 ↗ Tran Center where to park how to take

49:20 ↗ the bus what a for the bus and use a

49:22 ↗ card I'm thinking education so people

49:28 ↗ can understand how they can use multiple

49:30 ↗ modes and where they can park and use

49:33 ↗ transit so and just being able to

49:36 ↗ understand how it works on the other

49:37 ↗ thing they're supposed to not knowing so

49:39 ↗ therefore not use it I'll Drive because

49:41 ↗ I know how to do that that's supposed to

49:43 ↗ making it easier for them to use another

49:46 ↗ mode

49:49 ↗ in any of your conversations to first

49:52 ↗ thank you that's actually a lot of took

49:54 ↗ a lot of notes on all of that did in any

49:57 ↗ air conversations did anyone talk about

49:59 ↗ transit was it more the positive or the

50:05 ↗ negative side of things for the people I

50:07 ↗ talked to they were their regular users

50:10 ↗ of the parking right and then they go

50:12 ↗ the two people I spoke with they were

50:15 ↗ two of the people I spoke with they

50:16 ↗ commute daily to downtown Seattle from

50:19 ↗ the Issaquah parking right so you know

50:21 ↗ they're commuting in the peak windows

50:23 ↗ Monday through Friday they can always

50:26 ↗ find a parking spot and the bus transit

50:30 ↗ system to be very efficient because

50:33 ↗ they're they've been commuting forever

50:35 ↗ they kind of you know they have past

50:37 ↗ they know the drill so they really liked

50:40 ↗ that one of them was not excited about

50:43 ↗ light rail because he was saying that he

50:47 ↗ was looking at the travel times and the

50:49 ↗ travel times were supposed to get longer

50:51 ↗ after all a rail is put into place and

50:53 ↗ he's like how is that 20:41 hopefully

51:00 ↗ you'll retire but so far I mean they're

51:05 ↗ very happy with the bus system and the

51:07 ↗ bus service but again they're you know

51:09 ↗ peak commute it's kind of a different

51:12 ↗ thing they're trying to get somewhere in

51:13 ↗ the middle of the day answer that

51:19 ↗ question actually the delay or the

51:22 ↗ difference in time is actually has to

51:23 ↗ deal with there's a transfer now at

51:25 ↗ Eastgate where in bellevue light rail

51:28 ↗ it's not going directly to Seattle that

51:29 ↗ stops in Bellevue and so I think to do

51:32 ↗ that transfer it's actually quicker now

51:35 ↗ to get to Bellevue with light rail but

51:37 ↗ once you get to Bellevue you have to

51:38 ↗ transfer and then there's their

51:40 ↗ expectation for traffic it's gonna get

51:41 ↗ worse by 2041 so the distance between

51:45 ↗ Bellevue and downtown Seattle is gonna

51:47 ↗ get worse and so that's where that time

51:49 ↗ oh that little extra piece is coming

51:52 ↗ it's not a huge decrease but if there is

51:53 ↗ a decrease yeah actually

51:57 ↗ in my conversations I found that a lot

51:58 ↗ of people mentioned transits really nice

52:01 ↗ for getting out of Issaquah or coming in

52:03 ↗ as far from faraway places but getting

52:07 ↗ around it so quiet public transportation

52:10 ↗ isn't as nice as they want it to be

52:23 ↗ did anyone talk about non motorized

52:28 ↗ travel so there was some kind of safety

52:31 ↗ cards expressed but in terms of access

52:33 ↗ to a bike or having access to sidewalks

52:37 ↗ or facilities like any using the

52:40 ↗ infrastructure was there any concerns or

52:42 ↗ anything talked about in your

52:44 ↗ conversations with other people yeah I

52:47 ↗ would ride my bike but there's no bike

52:49 ↗ lane near my house I don't that kind of

52:51 ↗ that kind of conversation yeah one of my

52:53 ↗ one of the people that I talked to they

52:55 ↗ ride a bike to and from school every

52:57 ↗ single day just because because traffic

53:01 ↗ is so bad and they can get there faster

53:02 ↗ and one of their concerns was he lives

53:09 ↗ up squak mountain and then there are no

53:12 ↗ trails and it's hard to see when it's

53:14 ↗ darker and that the drivers are kind of

53:17 ↗ mean he's biking around so

53:27 ↗ the Z bike does he go down all the way

53:29 ↗ down to Wildwood to Newport and over

53:30 ↗ here does he cut it back through the

53:32 ↗ trail through sycamore um he I think he

53:35 ↗ goes all the way down yeah okay anything

53:42 ↗ else kind of highlights from the

53:43 ↗ conversations we'll move on to the

53:45 ↗ planning documents next but I want to

53:46 ↗ make sure get everything else the only

53:50 ↗ other comment was there's a fair number

53:53 ↗ of people in our neighborhood it's about

53:56 ↗ a mile from where we are to downtown as

53:58 ↗ well but they all walk it you think I

54:00 ↗ went by the back trail that's backed by

54:01 ↗ the over train trail or just down

54:05 ↗ Wildwood is fairly pleasant walk and

54:07 ↗ there's the separated sidewalk that's

54:09 ↗ separated from the road for most of them

54:11 ↗ pieces come down

54:19 ↗ okay yeah daddy I think this was

54:21 ↗ something that was pretty apparent in a

54:23 ↗ lot of our conversations just like a

54:25 ↗ lack of education about transportation

54:27 ↗ and I'm sure this is a problem for every

54:30 ↗ single like city council board there it

54:32 ↗ is out there about education about their

54:34 ↗ topics but for a lot of my interviews

54:37 ↗ too and I asked about like how is

54:41 ↗ traffic and a lot of people mentioned

54:42 ↗ like widening the roads and it isn't

54:45 ↗ like known to them that that's not

54:48 ↗ always the most viable option and so

54:50 ↗ just something I noticed was an area of

54:53 ↗ improvement in helping people better

54:56 ↗ understand transportation in Issaquah

54:59 ↗ and what's being done right now

55:03 ↗ okay thank you all do you want to move

55:13 ↗ on to finding documents no that's good

55:16 ↗ however you want to do that yes good

55:22 ↗ work I think we should I don't know do

55:25 ↗ it every year at least again or just to

55:28 ↗ have it routine but I think it's good

55:30 ↗ outreach in general and yeah yeah we can

55:35 ↗ we can look at trying to think of it it

55:44 ↗ would be good to do every time when you

55:45 ↗ have a winter break asking other people

55:52 ↗ other people you know you talk to your

55:56 ↗ these people from freezingly all the

55:58 ↗ time but you know if you're bothered to

56:00 ↗ tell them that you're serving and you

56:01 ↗ know you're asking about these specific

56:03 ↗ things you know

56:04 ↗ I thought it was really useful okay well

56:12 ↗ let's move on to kind of the first

56:14 ↗ question did you find any opportunities

56:17 ↗ when you were looking at other planning

56:19 ↗ document since there's like coordination

56:20 ↗ with other planning documents where

56:21 ↗ their goals or anything specific that

56:24 ↗ you saw on other planning documents that

56:25 ↗ you saw hey we would love to work on

56:28 ↗ something like that or we would want to

56:30 ↗ coordinate what something like that did

56:31 ↗ you see anything like that you're

56:33 ↗ looking to the other plans

56:38 ↗ let me start the frit just talking about

56:46 ↗ probably be more like us as far as more

56:49 ↗ of I think Gretchen's got a bigger

56:52 ↗ employment oh and it's kind of they've

56:55 ↗ got the mall they've set up a little

56:57 ↗ differently so it's kind of thinking

56:59 ↗ that mind in the curve they both have

57:01 ↗ some really interesting ways they put

57:02 ↗ together but Kirkland they emphasize

57:04 ↗ there is the safety is number one just

57:06 ↗ like number eight and Redmond than safe

57:09 ↗ sidewalks and so this is their priority

57:12 ↗ simple safety safe sidewalk so it's

57:14 ↗ almost like poverty of of safety to with

57:20 ↗ the most dangerous thing you can do so

57:21 ↗ safety sidewalks biking transit vehicle

57:23 ↗ circulation transportation systems the

57:28 ↗ put my glasses on so you can read my

57:30 ↗ writing

57:37 ↗ kind of just of the matches there their

57:41 ↗ land use and then environmental

57:43 ↗ sustainability which I thought was a

57:45 ↗ little kind of far down the road and

57:46 ↗ then being an active partner with

57:48 ↗ everything else that's going on in the

57:50 ↗ area as well but I like the way that

57:54 ↗ they they had it laid out I like the way

57:56 ↗ that I noticed that their parks broken

58:01 ↗ up and there's no connectivity between

58:03 ↗ those and I like the way that I think

58:05 ↗ we're trying to look at how to connect

58:07 ↗ the parks in heaven yeah both continue

58:10 ↗ apart but also a way to walk through a

58:12 ↗ park to go someplace to another place

58:19 ↗ like I'm there they talked about like

58:28 ↗ Kelly but some of the bikes things and

58:29 ↗ whether the classified as being a

58:32 ↗ shoulder or a lane or a share of lane or

58:34 ↗ a bike specific lane and they also

58:38 ↗ talked about the parking which is kind

58:40 ↗ of making me think about the downtown

58:41 ↗ this COIs parking and they had the

58:47 ↗ neighborhood concept where you can walk

58:50 ↗ from someplace and be ten minutes with

58:53 ↗ to be within downtown which is about a

58:55 ↗ quarter mile walk and I was trying to

58:56 ↗ think how that worked here if you have

58:58 ↗ of a downtown core but then you got

59:01 ↗ people up in the hill and then you got

59:02 ↗ people up on that hill so you kind of

59:04 ↗ you know build a mess out yeah clear

59:07 ↗ Kirkland once you kind of go up 100

59:09 ↗ things one hand there it's just kind of

59:11 ↗ a graduates little bro the tip of fat on

59:13 ↗ the side does not like a major hill

59:15 ↗ valley in our major hill kind of like

59:16 ↗ what we have so I'm gonna stir how that

59:18 ↗ work but I like how the address as far

59:20 ↗ as that being important so if you live

59:22 ↗ someplace you'd be 10 minutes from going

59:24 ↗ to get something to eat or going

59:25 ↗ downtown to walk went to library

59:28 ↗ whatever it might be but I liked how

59:30 ↗ they I think that's not an important

59:32 ↗ thing to think about

59:36 ↗ and then it's also Kirkland's kind of

59:39 ↗ linear I think going north to south and

59:41 ↗ so it's very different how they can

59:43 ↗ stretch things out like that and look at

59:45 ↗ their total make neighborhood in the

59:46 ↗ downtown mmm and then the kind of the

59:48 ↗ Bothell I'm not sure if it's called the

59:50 ↗ Buffett landing so kind of three

59:53 ↗ different areas but we're kind of more

59:55 ↗ of a circular oblong kind of a square

59:59 ↗ blocks circular so it's not really a

1:00:02 ↗ everything would be coming to a center

1:00:03 ↗ point then let's go if we just want

1:00:16 ↗ talked a while one town and then I'll

1:00:18 ↗ talk about the next town or just go on

1:00:19 ↗ to other I don't want to occupy the

1:00:21 ↗ whole time we have plenty of time and I

1:00:26 ↗ guess I would just propose that we just

1:00:28 ↗ do what we just did but just do it in

1:00:29 ↗ reverse and share all your thoughts is

1:00:31 ↗ that okay or did you want well I guess

1:00:34 ↗ you wanted to have my opportunities and

1:00:36 ↗ advantages and disadvantages I was

1:00:38 ↗ trying to put just questions in your

1:00:40 ↗ mind of highlights of what you saw out

1:00:43 ↗ of the plans things you liked things you

1:00:44 ↗ didn't like just to help us identify

1:00:47 ↗ major themes whether it come for the

1:00:50 ↗ planning documents or what you kind of

1:00:51 ↗ are expecting from the mobility master

1:00:53 ↗ plan for us

1:00:55 ↗ I have one just real quick from an

1:00:58 ↗ opportunities perspective the changing

1:01:01 ↗ the valley for the green necklace plan

1:01:04 ↗ the city I think the parks department

1:01:06 ↗ put this together the center aquapark

1:01:08 ↗ plan and so it was kind of cool going

1:01:10 ↗ back to cuz yeah I noticed in Kirkland

1:01:12 ↗ it was a little disconnected from the

1:01:15 ↗ way they do their green space but this

1:01:16 ↗ is sort of this idea of taking our green

1:01:20 ↗ space in the city and connecting it and

1:01:22 ↗ so you know it's for recreation but

1:01:26 ↗ could it not be used for mobility as

1:01:28 ↗ well and they have all these great

1:01:31 ↗ little routes they've identified and

1:01:33 ↗ priorities they've identified and I just

1:01:35 ↗ wonder if you know well some of us got

1:01:37 ↗ together to talk about non motorized

1:01:40 ↗ mobility options I was thinking oh I

1:01:42 ↗ wish I may be helpful because I guess

1:01:46 ↗ they hired a consultant to do some of

1:01:48 ↗ this work so and I can't remember if

1:01:50 ↗ we've talked about this in this meeting

1:01:51 ↗ before but it felt in you to me so

1:01:54 ↗ anyway that could be a potential

1:01:56 ↗ opportunity the coordinators do think

1:02:09 ↗ about these have a say there's an

1:02:10 ↗ opportunity just observations that's

1:02:12 ↗ what's going through it okay and it

1:02:13 ↗ doesn't necessarily need to be

1:02:14 ↗ opportunities it's just highlights and

1:02:20 ↗ we do have we're doing just great on

1:02:22 ↗ time if you want to do just highlights

1:02:25 ↗ of what you saw yeah each city that's

1:02:27 ↗ fine too it worked on the line that

1:02:29 ↗ probably easier Kirkland's comment in

1:02:33 ↗ there diagrams and figures of pollutions

1:02:36 ↗ and particulates was a little bit better

1:02:37 ↗ done than the city of Redmond's was can

1:02:40 ↗ I had to dig very well to find it in

1:02:42 ↗ Redmond's

1:02:44 ↗ [Music]

1:02:46 ↗ and in their party's dress by modes and

1:02:49 ↗ Redman it's very intricate they're both

1:02:51 ↗ had similar information but it was

1:02:54 ↗ sended very differently and I thought

1:02:56 ↗ Kirkland's flowed better I like how

1:03:00 ↗ written and had at the very beginning

1:03:02 ↗ had their table of contents of tables

1:03:06 ↗ and figures so in three separate figure

1:03:09 ↗ so it's very easy as we go find

1:03:10 ↗ something that you're looking for and

1:03:14 ↗ then redmond did have an OD and study in

1:03:17 ↗ theirs which i thought was interesting

1:03:18 ↗ as far as how many people coming in and

1:03:20 ↗ going out between communities and areas

1:03:22 ↗ did you call Odin D or gelatinization

1:03:25 ↗ okay yeah a long time ago we used to do

1:03:27 ↗ those manually where we would basically

1:03:29 ↗ tag license place and they're going to

1:03:31 ↗ go through the state to find a resident

1:03:35 ↗ of the license plate so we know we'll be

1:03:36 ↗ coming from yeah took a little more work

1:03:41 ↗ than al fun technology of today

1:03:50 ↗ okay let's right now

1:03:53 ↗ but you stuffy I have to talk on this

1:03:56 ↗ one I did not have time to get back and

1:03:57 ↗ go through the plans I apologize

1:03:59 ↗ well done you said it for me I actually

1:04:01 ↗ spent most my time on Kirkland and I

1:04:03 ↗ didn't do the rest so thank you for

1:04:08 ↗ saying that and you know I'm sure we can

1:04:11 ↗ submit other comments if we want to

1:04:13 ↗ later on I didn't want to say that I

1:04:19 ↗ said what I liked a lot of things about

1:04:22 ↗ the Kirkland plan I like this I'd like

1:04:25 ↗ to have our initial conditions was

1:04:27 ↗ represented spatially with a lot of

1:04:28 ↗ graphics I thought that made it really

1:04:30 ↗ easy to understand what they're even

1:04:32 ↗ talking about I thought that chapter

1:04:38 ↗ beginning chapter one was a good

1:04:41 ↗ organizing principle I thought that

1:04:47 ↗ let's see I thought a couple of things

1:04:50 ↗ to think about that I want to make sure

1:04:51 ↗ that we're conscious of and that's this

1:04:56 ↗ is my communications background coming

1:04:58 ↗ in here but I think it's really

1:05:00 ↗ important to understand who our audience

1:05:01 ↗ is and I think as the plan is being

1:05:04 ↗ developed in a way the audience is

1:05:06 ↗ counsel because they have to adopt the

1:05:08 ↗ plan but in the end the audience is

1:05:11 ↗ going to be staff and anybody that just

1:05:14 ↗ wants to you know the casual observer

1:05:15 ↗ this wants to look at it but I think the

1:05:19 ↗ reason I mentioned that is because what

1:05:21 ↗ I didn't like about the Kirkland plan

1:05:23 ↗ was the opening drove right into the

1:05:27 ↗ purpose but the purpose was kind of

1:05:33 ↗ muddled and it kind of went right into

1:05:37 ↗ multimodal it kind of went right to the

1:05:39 ↗ solution in the opening of the purpose

1:05:42 ↗ and I think the reason I'm mentioning is

1:05:43 ↗ does they think it's this is a piece of

1:05:46 ↗ it's a planning document it's a

1:05:48 ↗ guideline it's also a piece of

1:05:49 ↗ communication and I think that what's

1:05:51 ↗ really important

1:05:52 ↗ is framing the problem we're trying to

1:05:54 ↗ solve and I think that most many of the

1:05:58 ↗ people we endeavour to serve have that

1:06:01 ↗ mentality of it's all about getting my

1:06:03 ↗ me getting my car through and the way we

1:06:09 ↗ are going to be successful is if we

1:06:12 ↗ frame the problem and then the solution

1:06:14 ↗ then becomes these other investments in

1:06:18 ↗ these other modes but when you lead with

1:06:20 ↗ the solution I think it's off it could

1:06:23 ↗ be off-putting and it could be like I

1:06:25 ↗ don't I don't know what the rest this

1:06:27 ↗ document is but it sounds like it's it's

1:06:29 ↗ about other things besides what I care

1:06:31 ↗ about and I think that if we can scroll

1:06:34 ↗ back to the goals and that we started

1:06:37 ↗ with at the beginning and really frame

1:06:38 ↗ the problem that this document so

1:06:40 ↗ there's two ways to approach the purpose

1:06:42 ↗ page and one is functionally what is the

1:06:46 ↗ purpose it's a guiding document is

1:06:47 ↗ required by GMA bla bla bla like just

1:06:50 ↗ institutionally what the purpose is but

1:06:52 ↗ also what the goals are of the plan and

1:06:55 ↗ general and the vision and I think to

1:06:57 ↗ launch right into solutions and that's

1:07:02 ↗ really what talking about multimodal is

1:07:04 ↗ really about your answer but I think we

1:07:07 ↗ have to make sure we understand where

1:07:08 ↗ our audience is coming from and I think

1:07:09 ↗ if our audience is sitting in a certain

1:07:13 ↗ place than if we start with that we that

1:07:16 ↗ approach it it is gonna be hard to get

1:07:19 ↗ anybody to continue to wade through this

1:07:21 ↗ material and I think that it matters how

1:07:24 ↗ we characterize what it is that we think

1:07:27 ↗ should be done and really be mindful of

1:07:30 ↗ the goal is to move people through the

1:07:34 ↗ goal isn't to get every out of the cars

1:07:36 ↗ right so are you thinking like getting

1:07:39 ↗ their table of contents where they have

1:07:41 ↗ the goal and the policies just like

1:07:42 ↗ right off the bat I was talking about

1:07:44 ↗ the one of the first narratives I don't

1:07:46 ↗ have

1:07:47 ↗ it printed out here was just looking at

1:07:49 ↗ it online but is purpose in the Kirkland

1:07:51 ↗ plan it's like one of the first places

1:07:53 ↗ you just can start reading I mean

1:07:55 ↗ there's you know there's table of

1:07:56 ↗ contents and lists of figures and so

1:07:58 ↗ forth it when you first start reading

1:08:00 ↗ you go right to purpose and it goes

1:08:02 ↗ right into what I would argue is more

1:08:04 ↗ the solution as opposed to really I just

1:08:06 ↗ think it's really critical we frame the

1:08:07 ↗ problem in a way that is going to be

1:08:11 ↗ inclusive and I'm not a really good

1:08:14 ↗ awareness of who our audiences and so

1:08:20 ↗ recognizing that there's content that's

1:08:23 ↗ driving policy but there's also a it's

1:08:24 ↗ also a communication piece right and so

1:08:27 ↗ it I do think it matters and there's I

1:08:31 ↗ had lots of notes about specifically

1:08:32 ↗ where I thought like kind of recognizing

1:08:34 ↗ that congestion like what we can expect

1:08:37 ↗ that congestion is inevitable and that

1:08:39 ↗ solving congestion in and of itself

1:08:41 ↗ isn't necessarily the goal there's

1:08:43 ↗ always gonna be congestion that can't be

1:08:45 ↗ the metric right there's always gonna be

1:08:47 ↗ congestion on Front Street if you add

1:08:49 ↗ more lanes and ten years there's gonna

1:08:51 ↗ be the same at a congestion because

1:08:52 ↗ there's gonna fill up again so just yeah

1:08:56 ↗ there were a lot of I wrote a lot of

1:08:59 ↗ notes about where I where I thought that

1:09:04 ↗ would come into play if we were thinking

1:09:07 ↗ about our audience and what we were

1:09:09 ↗ trying to communicate and how we were

1:09:10 ↗ trying to as we were trying to frame the

1:09:12 ↗ problem and then lead to the solutions

1:09:18 ↗ [Applause]

1:09:26 ↗ so for me I completely spaced and then

1:09:30 ↗ read the Olympia one I only read the

1:09:31 ↗ Redmond and that Kirkland why Knight

1:09:33 ↗ I don't know talking about it there's a

1:09:39 ↗ limp you would have missed it but then I

1:09:41 ↗ you know but then I read the green

1:09:43 ↗ necklace and you could job on that one

1:09:47 ↗ the one I thought flowed better and read

1:09:50 ↗ better just in general I liked all their

1:09:53 ↗ graphs and pictures I don't think a lot

1:09:55 ↗ of people have a lot of time to read a

1:09:56 ↗ lot of text anymore so they're just kind

1:09:59 ↗ of visually the way not what they were

1:10:01 ↗ communicating but the way they were

1:10:03 ↗ communicating in the Kirkland plan was a

1:10:07 ↗ lot more compelling and I was more

1:10:10 ↗ willing to try to dive in because I was

1:10:13 ↗ like oh there's a lot of pictures okay I

1:10:14 ↗ can try to get through this and a

1:10:16 ↗ reasonable amount of time versus you

1:10:19 ↗ know a lot of dense text but the Redman

1:10:22 ↗ plan I agree the I think the Redmond

1:10:25 ↗ plan was so that's the heart therein

1:10:28 ↗ lies the rub the Redmond plan had a lot

1:10:31 ↗ more information about the why why we're

1:10:34 ↗ doing this you know why we asked these

1:10:37 ↗ compelling questions why it just felt

1:10:39 ↗ more as you know as a person who sits in

1:10:42 ↗ traffic you read this plan and you're

1:10:45 ↗ like okay they understand what my

1:10:47 ↗ problem is and now so they shape the

1:10:49 ↗ problem better and now these are the

1:10:51 ↗ different kinds of solutions they have

1:10:53 ↗ and I thought I can't remember if it was

1:10:55 ↗ Redmond or Kirkland who talked about

1:10:59 ↗ like kind of that climate impact stuff

1:11:01 ↗ as far as carbon emission all the you

1:11:05 ↗ know kind of the health impacts of I

1:11:08 ↗ can't remember which one of those two

1:11:09 ↗ plans talked about that or maybe it was

1:11:11 ↗ both of them

1:11:14 ↗ okay but I thought that information was

1:11:17 ↗ also you know as much as you want to

1:11:21 ↗ talk about you know making sure your

1:11:24 ↗ system is built safe or your making sure

1:11:26 ↗ this or that just sort of that

1:11:27 ↗ definition of safety and including that

1:11:29 ↗ human health impact or human health

1:11:32 ↗ element to it and climate element to it

1:11:34 ↗ was I think really important especially

1:11:37 ↗ when we're talking about twenty years

1:11:39 ↗ into the future so I thought I had a

1:11:43 ↗ better explanation I think when you're

1:11:45 ↗ thinking of as far as maybe it was

1:11:46 ↗ Kirkland yeah it was with the carbon one

1:11:50 ↗ cuz I felt like I only saw it in one

1:11:52 ↗ plan but I can't remember which one so

1:11:53 ↗ it must have been Kirkland that did a

1:11:54 ↗ better job but yeah so more pictures but

1:12:00 ↗ more information I mean it was

1:12:18 ↗ ridiculous I mean really comprehensive

1:12:20 ↗ at the same that's where I was like oh

1:12:22 ↗ I'm torn yeah I also noticed the safety

1:12:27 ↗ aspect and so I think it's really

1:12:29 ↗ important that you have that human

1:12:30 ↗ element into it that like some of the

1:12:34 ↗ documents seemed to prioritize like

1:12:36 ↗ people and health and like their issues

1:12:39 ↗ that were in their cities I did like all

1:12:44 ↗ the pictures though I was I'm a very

1:12:47 ↗ visual person but I also like all the

1:12:50 ↗ statistics so like when I see numbers I

1:12:51 ↗ really like grab on to them especially

1:12:54 ↗ like in a sea of words I'm like oh like

1:12:57 ↗ they're talking about emissions they're

1:12:58 ↗ talking about like how this will affect

1:13:00 ↗ the future in these ways and so I think

1:13:03 ↗ also having a lot of background like you

1:13:05 ↗ mentioned is really beneficial I liked

1:13:09 ↗ that and then also looking at

1:13:11 ↗ it's a close strategic plan kind of I

1:13:15 ↗ liked how that flowed a lot so I don't

1:13:18 ↗ know if there's like some way to

1:13:19 ↗ incorporate our strategic plan is kind

1:13:24 ↗ of based like structured into the way

1:13:27 ↗ that our master mobility plan is

1:13:30 ↗ structured but I thought that that one

1:13:34 ↗ was the easiest to kind of follow to

1:13:37 ↗ read I liked all the colorful circles

1:13:39 ↗ all of like yeah that was laid out and

1:13:43 ↗ then I did like the parking I saw the

1:13:45 ↗ parking well

1:13:54 ↗ I focused a lot on the Olympia master

1:13:56 ↗ plan actually and I think my first

1:13:59 ↗ comment about that was just the layout

1:14:01 ↗ of it so when you click on it it leads

1:14:03 ↗ you to a separate page and it's just one

1:14:05 ↗ continuous scroll through page and it

1:14:07 ↗ leads you through the problems and in

1:14:09 ↗ that sense it was really accessible and

1:14:11 ↗ I think if we want to increase education

1:14:14 ↗ about transportation about what our

1:14:15 ↗ board is doing that is a really easy

1:14:17 ↗ format for people who might not be

1:14:19 ↗ motivated to read 200 pages to kind of

1:14:22 ↗ get an understanding but I think it also

1:14:24 ↗ was not as detailed as some of the other

1:14:28 ↗ plans were and that's something that I

1:14:30 ↗ do think is important as well and

1:14:33 ↗ something I also notice about Olympia

1:14:35 ↗ was they constantly referred back to

1:14:37 ↗ performance metrics so they had a few

1:14:40 ↗ sample projects and then gave the rating

1:14:44 ↗ on their performance metrics scale to

1:14:46 ↗ show why those projects were important

1:14:48 ↗ to their goal and so constantly kind of

1:14:51 ↗ bringing it back to their goals through

1:14:53 ↗ the performance metrics and so I thought

1:14:55 ↗ that was really cool too

1:14:59 ↗ and they had a part about because I

1:15:04 ↗ remember earlier we were talking about

1:15:05 ↗ how a lot of people would mention that

1:15:07 ↗ they wanted to ease traffic by adding

1:15:09 ↗ lanes and actually Olympia talk

1:15:11 ↗ specifically about adding roundabouts to

1:15:14 ↗ each traffic rather than adding lanes

1:15:16 ↗ just adding roundabouts so I thought

1:15:18 ↗ that was interesting and specific to

1:15:20 ↗ Olympia for those who didn't see the

1:15:25 ↗ look at the end the via one they they

1:15:27 ↗ have an interactive website showing a

1:15:29 ↗ story map of their plans so instead of

1:15:31 ↗ clicking on and you open up a PDF or for

1:15:33 ↗ the planning document the website itself

1:15:35 ↗ actually has each of the chapters and

1:15:37 ↗ policies laid out which is what Manny

1:15:40 ↗ was talking about so it's really easy to

1:15:42 ↗ explain

1:15:42 ↗ really easy to follow and it's very

1:15:45 ↗ visual so as it's an option that we can

1:15:49 ↗ look into kind of the future not right

1:15:51 ↗ now but as part of the plan is how we

1:15:53 ↗ visually communicate how this document

1:15:56 ↗ is really planning for the translation

1:15:58 ↗ system for the future I thought that was

1:16:00 ↗ kind of interesting because I had all

1:16:02 ↗ the way down through thinking looking

1:16:04 ↗ for maybe the PDF links at the bottom

1:16:10 ↗ [Laughter]

1:16:18 ↗ okay is there anything else that you

1:16:25 ↗ want to go through when in terms of like

1:16:27 ↗ your document review is anything that

1:16:30 ↗ stood out to you when you look at the

1:16:31 ↗ existing planning documents of hey we

1:16:35 ↗ didn't actually talk about that yet that

1:16:36 ↗ was those kind of light bulb moments I

1:16:42 ↗ think that the climate one I mean we

1:16:45 ↗ haven't talked about kind of impacted

1:16:47 ↗ climate or you know the cities I don't

1:16:50 ↗ know if the city's part of k4c or

1:16:52 ↗ weather climate goals are any of that

1:16:54 ↗ but the tide of Transportation and

1:16:56 ↗ climate I don't think we've discussed

1:16:59 ↗ that yet

1:17:00 ↗ then I think working to just down there

1:17:12 ↗ for about four and a half years about

1:17:15 ↗ the Amtrak station oh and if they're

1:17:18 ↗ gonna go inner-city you know there's no

1:17:21 ↗ communicate it's all seem to be about

1:17:23 ↗ the town but not you know what are they

1:17:25 ↗ doing if they're going elsewhere

1:17:26 ↗ so I was thinking no careful I know we

1:17:29 ↗ don't have an amtrak station here rail

1:17:31 ↗ station but there are the things that

1:17:33 ↗ are local that we could have might have

1:17:37 ↗ a couple years down the road that we

1:17:38 ↗ should be thinking about now and include

1:17:40 ↗ that in it those two I was kind of

1:17:43 ↗ thinking that that's company on the

1:17:44 ↗ outskirts of town so that's not really

1:17:45 ↗ where we're talking about just the

1:17:47 ↗ downtown that's opposed to looking at

1:17:48 ↗ the bigger picture anyway

1:17:58 ↗ so I do have feedback from Nina even

1:18:00 ↗ though she wasn't able to come today I

1:18:02 ↗ don't know Cynthia if you wanted to read

1:18:03 ↗ her notes or if you want me to she

1:18:06 ↗ strongly emphasized safety as well else

1:18:09 ↗ maybe you did she really liked

1:18:11 ↗ Kirkland's emphasis on safety where it

1:18:15 ↗ was the number one chapter it was

1:18:16 ↗ addressed in each of the chapters

1:18:17 ↗ following the number of the first

1:18:19 ↗ chapter of you know safety is important

1:18:22 ↗ this is why it's important this is how

1:18:23 ↗ we're gonna address it and then each of

1:18:24 ↗ the following chapter is talking about

1:18:26 ↗ Auto movement or bicycle or pedestrian

1:18:29 ↗ this is how we're gonna address safety

1:18:31 ↗ for each of these modes and this is the

1:18:34 ↗ steps we're gonna follow and she

1:18:37 ↗ definitely liked the chapter on motor

1:18:42 ↗ vehicles in the coordination with land

1:18:43 ↗ use and but also making sure that safety

1:18:46 ↗ is emphasized as part of that so that's

1:18:48 ↗ one thing that's always forgotten when

1:18:50 ↗ we're having a conversation about auto

1:18:52 ↗ it's you know it's typically delay or

1:18:54 ↗ lower volume and not everyone talks

1:18:57 ↗ about the safety element of well if

1:18:59 ↗ we're gonna have that as the number one

1:19:00 ↗ priority we needed to come we need to

1:19:02 ↗ talk about what the impact is on those

1:19:04 ↗ other aspects people talk about she in

1:19:08 ↗ the Redmond planning document she liked

1:19:11 ↗ the multimodal chapter where I talked

1:19:13 ↗ about the coordination between the

1:19:15 ↗ different modes and the right-of-way how

1:19:20 ↗ it's used but also how Redmond

1:19:22 ↗ prioritized maintenance and not just

1:19:24 ↗ capacity when it came to maintenance and

1:19:27 ↗ again safety for all users and she liked

1:19:31 ↗ the environmental section where water

1:19:34 ↗ quality was noted as the number one

1:19:36 ↗ priority is making sure it's healthy

1:19:40 ↗ and the last as far as emphasis on

1:19:44 ↗ parking that is that's a major concern

1:19:47 ↗ for everybody that's something that we

1:19:48 ↗ heard last year when we were going

1:19:50 ↗ through engagement was know we need to

1:19:53 ↗ address parking or at least we need to

1:19:55 ↗ do something about it because people are

1:19:57 ↗ getting frustrated when I'm trying to

1:19:58 ↗ access like way you all experience where

1:20:00 ↗ what you heard in your conversations

1:20:02 ↗ with your neighbors or your colleagues

1:20:05 ↗ and then that's it

1:20:09 ↗ I'm sure she'll tell us more later but

1:20:11 ↗ that's at least what she sent me are

1:20:15 ↗ there any questions about the homework

1:20:19 ↗ or anything that kind of stands out when

1:20:21 ↗ you're going through a lot of this all

1:20:23 ↗ the planning documents anything you

1:20:26 ↗ would like to see in our planning

1:20:28 ↗ document in the mobility master plan I

1:20:30 ↗ know you talked about Park he talked

1:20:32 ↗ about climate and the human element and

1:20:35 ↗ attended all of is there anything

1:20:36 ↗ specific that you saw that you really

1:20:39 ↗ liked

1:20:42 ↗ just to comma so the fears and peers was

1:20:44 ↗ doing some of the other ones so do they

1:20:45 ↗ have a lot of input as far as traffic

1:20:47 ↗ into bars as they do on the other ones

1:20:49 ↗ as well yes and fare abuses our

1:20:59 ↗ consultant helping us develop the

1:21:00 ↗ plantus I know what I was gonna say I

1:21:05 ↗ did make a comment that I liked the

1:21:06 ↗ graphic representation of initial

1:21:08 ↗ conditions but I also felt like and

1:21:11 ↗ maybe I just didn't read thoroughly

1:21:13 ↗ enough but sometimes it didn't was

1:21:16 ↗ didn't make clear what the implications

1:21:17 ↗ were of that so it was really easy and

1:21:23 ↗ accessible because it was graphical but

1:21:25 ↗ then it sort of left me like except a

1:21:27 ↗ little bit so what and so maybe

1:21:29 ↗ embellishing a little bit longer like

1:21:36 ↗ drawing some conclusions so kind of a

1:21:42 ↗ hybrid would be kind of nice so visual

1:21:48 ↗ communicates everything but not as long

1:21:55 ↗ I also really liked and you mentioned it

1:21:57 ↗ on the there was the hierarchy the

1:22:01 ↗ safety and the way that the modes and it

1:22:05 ↗ to me when I was reading then I was

1:22:07 ↗ thinking Mike it was like a hierarchy of

1:22:08 ↗ vulnerability yeah you know you're the

1:22:11 ↗ most vulnerable if you're walking or you

1:22:15 ↗ know we're writing and and that's easy

1:22:19 ↗ to understand and easy to understand why

1:22:22 ↗ you would prioritize that especially in

1:22:24 ↗ the context of safety

1:22:31 ↗ I'm wondering for documents we were

1:22:35 ↗ talking about layout just now I think is

1:22:37 ↗ it possible to do like a version similar

1:22:42 ↗ tool and feels like the easy to read

1:22:43 ↗ scroll through but then also have a

1:22:45 ↗ comprehensive document in case you only

1:22:48 ↗ want to read about the safety or the

1:22:51 ↗ parking aspect of it and it can go into

1:22:53 ↗ depth in just the area in a PDF but also

1:22:56 ↗ have a overall like very visual website

1:23:04 ↗ type thing I like the strategic plan

1:23:07 ↗ almost like where you click a tab and it

1:23:10 ↗ opens up a specific area but it also

1:23:12 ↗ gives a general overview yeah yeah we

1:23:18 ↗ can take a look at that

1:23:29 ↗ okay so everything else

1:23:33 ↗ well I'm impressed with this group and

1:23:36 ↗ the depth that you guys went Jesus

1:23:38 ↗ that's great

1:23:39 ↗ I imagine yes I was not here this

1:23:44 ↗ evening

1:23:45 ↗ nightmare saw on Kobe okay did he I know

1:23:49 ↗ he said he wasn't gonna be able to make

1:23:50 ↗ it did he send any yes he did but I

1:23:59 ↗ think of it was all probably summarized

1:24:00 ↗ my notes to send them to Steve and CeCe

1:24:02 ↗ you and I know Aaron I mean there's no

1:24:06 ↗ reason we can't submit additional yeah

1:24:10 ↗ no more not to connection anything so if

1:24:13 ↗ you have follow-up comments or questions

1:24:14 ↗ I'm happy to answer no I'm going to

1:24:18 ↗ discuss good well something we're ready

1:24:21 ↗ to move on to item four or five of

1:24:26 ↗ course do we have a staff report for

1:24:30 ↗ staff report two things kind of related

1:24:33 ↗ to each other

1:24:34 ↗ Sheldon is retiring our public works

1:24:36 ↗ director is retiring and Kirk is gonna

1:24:39 ↗ be filling in for him as our interim

1:24:41 ↗ director for the next

1:24:50 ↗ I don't know is there anything else

1:24:52 ↗ Kurt that you wanted to okay so I do

1:24:57 ↗ Sheldon's last day this is this Friday

1:25:00 ↗ Wow this Friday yeah he made that

1:25:03 ↗ announcement right after our last

1:25:05 ↗ meeting so there's been no opportunity

1:25:07 ↗ to tell you so he did make it a while

1:25:10 ↗ ago wasn't two week notice chairs report

1:25:19 ↗ we don't have a sheriff's report there's

1:25:24 ↗ a report didn't I have anything that she

1:25:26 ↗ wanted to she didn't have anything to

1:25:28 ↗ share at least not in the email and for

1:25:32 ↗ a youth report cope he's not here but if

1:25:34 ↗ you have anything sort of hard on Maddie

1:25:38 ↗ or mo in terms of like what's going on

1:25:40 ↗ the high schools or anything related

1:25:42 ↗ going on in the community yeah

1:25:44 ↗ so this isn't particularly high school

1:25:47 ↗ related it's just something that I've

1:25:50 ↗ been working on with this the artist

1:25:52 ↗ coordinator Amy dukes we're in the

1:25:55 ↗ process of putting a pedestrian mural in

1:25:58 ↗ the trail that goes under the new

1:26:00 ↗ roundabout and then we're still working

1:26:04 ↗ out a few of the details but we're

1:26:06 ↗ hoping to get everything going and get

1:26:09 ↗ painting started by spring and we're

1:26:11 ↗ hoping to get a big community turnout

1:26:14 ↗ for that and so hopefully to increase

1:26:18 ↗ like youth awareness of like the new

1:26:19 ↗ trails and then also that it's option

1:26:22 ↗ for them to use and then hopefully

1:26:25 ↗ through a mural that we can promote

1:26:27 ↗ pedestrian traffic as well in this clay

1:26:30 ↗ area yeah

1:26:34 ↗ thank you okay are there any other

1:26:38 ↗ business is there any other business or

1:26:40 ↗ announcements nothing for me

1:26:49 ↗ unless there's nothing else just next

1:26:51 ↗ meeting is December 24th yep right here

1:26:57 ↗ never other names of these terms this is

1:26:58 ↗ council chamber but you'll tell us in

1:27:09 ↗ bold in the subject line you'll remind

1:27:12 ↗ us yes there's a meeting somewhere else

1:27:14 ↗ and there was some talk at some point

1:27:15 ↗ about changing our react meeting nice so

1:27:18 ↗ I was actually gonna ask about that for

1:27:20 ↗ we were trying to look at different days

1:27:23 ↗ that don't conflict with council

1:27:25 ↗ meetings on any other boards or

1:27:27 ↗ commissions being that meet in this room

1:27:29 ↗ and there are a lot of options and the

1:27:31 ↗ best date that works for you that in the

1:27:35 ↗ survey that we had put out the best

1:27:36 ↗ state that works for you actually is it

1:27:38 ↗ with the council meeting so it's it not

1:27:45 ↗ sure if changing the day is really nice

1:27:49 ↗ for certainement we're trying to reduce

1:27:50 ↗ the leaven the number of conflicts we

1:27:52 ↗ were having with these accounts meeting

1:27:54 ↗ our holidays this year we're having a

1:27:57 ↗ conflict with two holidays and maybe one

1:28:01 ↗ or two council meetings and that would

1:28:03 ↗ push us either to the pickering room at

1:28:04 ↗ City Hall Northwest or over across the

1:28:07 ↗ street at the Eco room so if you want me

1:28:11 ↗ to look more into just moving us to a

1:28:13 ↗ different date but I know people's

1:28:17 ↗ availability decreased as we get away

1:28:19 ↗ from moves

1:28:20 ↗ that was also the other issue is anytime

1:28:23 ↗ we try to go to Tuesday or Wednesday the

1:28:25 ↗ number of people available decreased and

1:28:27 ↗ I didn't want to I didn't want to

1:28:29 ↗ propose something what happened people

1:28:30 ↗ couldn't go one question I have is I

1:28:33 ↗ mean two meetings is one sixth of our

1:28:35 ↗ meeting schedule which it's probably not

1:28:39 ↗ good if we're trying to get a mobility

1:28:40 ↗ master plan out do we maybe want to

1:28:44 ↗ Academy and should we move those just

1:28:48 ↗ those meetings to the third Monday yeah

1:28:52 ↗ we can look at it we can look at that

1:28:54 ↗ yeah how does that yeah we're pretty

1:28:56 ↗ easy for some there now this is a Monday

1:28:58 ↗ I can make that work okay it didn't seem

1:29:00 ↗ here's this sounds like oh there's six

1:29:03 ↗ of us saying that the third Monday as an

1:29:05 ↗ alternate for when it falls on holiday

1:29:08 ↗ mm-hmm and if we get that on the

1:29:11 ↗ calendar in advance

1:29:14 ↗ that we don't lose a whole month nine

1:29:17 ↗ days that's kind of that's the council

1:29:21 ↗ meetings okay that's why I was wondering

1:29:25 ↗ if there was a conflict that was a

1:29:27 ↗ conflict with that day that was the that

1:29:29 ↗ was the conflict okay so maybe I don't

1:29:32 ↗ know so scratch that the third Monday is

1:29:40 ↗ a conflict is it an issue if we look at

1:29:43 ↗ the Pickering room for that third Monday

1:29:53 ↗ early on from everybody it was that this

1:29:55 ↗ location worked best for everyone

1:29:58 ↗ just because of access to the transit

1:30:00 ↗ and the bike facilities leading home

1:30:02 ↗ care auto it doesn't really matter

1:30:04 ↗ because you drive to both places but

1:30:06 ↗ that was I was trying to respect that as

1:30:08 ↗ much as I could

1:30:09 ↗ well this rumor across the street is

1:30:12 ↗ that where the Pickering room is that

1:30:17 ↗ one just because if you don't get there

1:30:19 ↗ on time you can't get the day after the

1:30:38 ↗ conflict or the after the holiday which

1:30:41 ↗ would be the Tuesday is that even an

1:30:42 ↗ option is that better and is this room

1:30:44 ↗ available would rather stick with the

1:30:45 ↗ same room but a different night what

1:30:47 ↗ month what month is that

1:30:51 ↗ the conflict with those states is it

1:30:53 ↗ because what would the next available

1:30:55 ↗ day is Tuesday that's when council has

1:30:57 ↗ their study sessions okay so nevermind

1:30:58 ↗ so well just those back to the third

1:31:01 ↗ Monday those will be is it Memorial Day

1:31:05 ↗ and one other do you member what the I

1:31:07 ↗ don't remember what the other holiday is

1:31:08 ↗ I think of them holidays that are at the

1:31:11 ↗ end of the month anyway I'll update the

1:31:17 ↗ calendar invites that I have to all you

1:31:18 ↗ with locations thank you is not

1:31:23 ↗ presidents no it's not that's what I had

1:31:25 ↗ just asked I was like it's February 24th

1:31:27 ↗ presidents I know I think

1:31:35 ↗ yeah I think it's easier to get us all

1:31:37 ↗ to the Pickering room than it is to try

1:31:39 ↗ to find it different data I think that's

1:31:41 ↗ what the KA 3 is here okay so keep the

1:31:44 ↗ same time third Monday picking room yeah

1:31:47 ↗ okay and then for the two holiday weeks

1:31:51 ↗ we can just try to two times in 2020 the

1:31:58 ↗ only one I found on my calendar was

1:31:59 ↗ December 28th and May 25th yeah those

1:32:05 ↗ are the two to two holidays and I think

1:32:07 ↗ two or three council meetings those are

1:32:10 ↗ the conflicts okay

1:32:12 ↗ yes for the holidays we should try to

1:32:14 ↗ calendar your the end of December is the

1:32:20 ↗ May meeting maybe we can yeah so the

1:32:23 ↗ December would be the 21st which isn't

1:32:26 ↗ as bad as right in the middle but we

1:32:28 ↗ should pencil it in and then if the

1:32:30 ↗ schedule allows us and everyone just

1:32:32 ↗ seems to want to have a mm-hmm break

1:32:34 ↗ again or okay we don't know where we'll

1:32:36 ↗ be December 2020 in terms of like this

1:32:39 ↗ these deliverables and we may just want

1:32:41 ↗ to finish powering through so be good to

1:32:43 ↗ pencil it in okay

1:32:47 ↗ alright that works

1:32:55 ↗ yeah they would be the third it'll be

1:32:58 ↗ third Monday in May they'll be the 18th

1:33:08 ↗ and if I know you're not looking at your

1:33:10 ↗ calendar so if something comes up we can

1:33:12 ↗ revisit this later on too okay for now

1:33:17 ↗ should we say that's our unless

1:33:19 ↗ otherwise we're not changing we're gonna

1:33:37 ↗ continue with the fourth Monday mm-hmm

1:33:40 ↗ except in May we're gonna move to the

1:33:42 ↗ third Monday and in December we'll move

1:33:44 ↗ to the third Monday don't otherwise no

1:33:50 ↗ 17th is not we don't meet on that day we

1:33:53 ↗ weren't scheduled to meet on that day

1:33:54 ↗ that's a third Monday yeah we're just

1:33:58 ↗ changing location 24th on the conflict

1:34:06 ↗ days right okay that's all the questions

1:34:08 ↗ that go oh right

1:34:10 ↗ I had one more question just about

1:34:12 ↗ membership renewals so yes for the new

1:34:16 ↗ year yeah important if we're expiring

1:34:19 ↗ 2020 is that when does that technically

1:34:24 ↗ expire and what is the process to so

1:34:26 ↗ there's application that I think the

1:34:29 ↗ same application yinz is submit for the

1:34:30 ↗ city clerk and even though you're two or

1:34:35 ↗ four-year hasn't been fully extended we

1:34:38 ↗ still have to submit that occasion

1:34:39 ↗ because the expiration date but we

1:34:41 ↗ submit as part of the location review is

1:34:43 ↗ that you have not actually gone through

1:34:45 ↗ your full two or four year process and

1:34:47 ↗ that'll be included as part of the

1:34:48 ↗ application review process

1:34:51 ↗ one of us do I'm gonna send the links

1:34:54 ↗ out to you following today but they're

1:34:57 ↗ doing February okay and if you're but if

1:35:01 ↗ you're not expire until like 2022 d you

1:35:03 ↗ you don't need to worry about it okay

1:35:05 ↗ they're just staggered terms I'm in the

1:35:11 ↗ same boat yes with the expirations

1:35:18 ↗ and the three vacant positions that's

1:35:20 ↗ what we're working with

1:35:23 ↗ okay I'll entertain a motion to adjourn

1:35:29 ↗ motion to adjourn okay

1:35:39 ↗ the gavel I don't know

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