Park Board · Monday, February 24, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Membership

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Staff report:

Park Board About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this board provides guidance and Milissa Ching, Office Manager direction in meeting the City’s parks and Email recreational needs by advising the Mayor and Parks & Recreation Director on matters relating to the Regular Members planning; acquisition, development; and operation 2022 - Bradley Book of parks, facilities and recreational programs inside 2022 - Ruben Nieto the City limits. 2022 - Jonathan Richardson 2022 - Linda Whitworth Membership 2023 - Chris Kovac The Park Board is comprised of nine regular 2020 - Joe Frauenheim members, with four-year terms; and two 2020 - Carl Riess alternates, with two-year terms. All members are 2021 - Jeremy Noble appointed by the Mayor and subject to 2021 - Danielle Wolfrom Githens confirmation by the City Council. Terms expire April 30 of the year listed. For more information, see Alternate Members…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of January 27, 2020

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 1-27-20 Park Board Minutes Page [0000] 7:00 PM Pickering Room, 1775 12th January 27, 2020 DRAFT MINUTES Avenue NW, Issaquah WA

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Mobility Master Plan Update

Director and Jennifer Fink, Park Planner · 30 min · Jeff Watling, Parks and Community Services · packet pp.9–16

Topics: TransportationParks

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Staff report:

MOBILITY MASTER PLAN Issaquah is planning for a transportation system that is safe, healthy, and efficient. The Mobility Master Plan (MMP) is Issaquah's transportation plan that will guide 20+ years of investments. Below are the guiding principles the City will use to achieve this vision.

5. REPORTS

Director's Report

Chairperson's Report

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0:46 ↗ February 24th 2020 opportunity review

1:12 ↗ minutes from our last meeting in January

1:15 ↗ yes

1:21 ↗ regular business B I just like to add

1:24 ↗ that um a reference that I had asked

1:28 ↗ whether I mithoon how to engage with the

1:30 ↗ baseball community and that response was

1:33 ↗ in the negative so what are you talking

1:44 ↗ about in the minutes with respect to the

1:46 ↗ park master plan I don't know where we

1:51 ↗ want to add it we can just add it at the

1:53 ↗ end park under to batali Park mm-hmm I

2:01 ↗ think the response was that we have

2:03 ↗ reached out to that reached out but had

2:05 ↗ not yet engaged just want to I just want

2:22 ↗ to make sure it's in them minutes that

2:24 ↗ had not happened yet

2:24 ↗ Thanks

2:27 ↗ [Music]

2:35 ↗ I also noticed in my share report that I

2:44 ↗ think this was I think I had mentioned

2:46 ↗ end of February for board applications

2:49 ↗ and it's on here end of March and so

2:51 ↗ that needs to be changed to end of

2:53 ↗ February since that's coming up here it

3:15 ↗ is any other issues if not can I have a

3:20 ↗ motion to approve the minutes I'm going

3:24 ↗ to approve them em so surprised

3:44 ↗ like we have any audience thank you

4:03 ↗ thank you so much for having me here

4:05 ↗ tonight

4:05 ↗ my name is zoom Kudo I'm the senior test

4:07 ↗ station planner for the city SFO and I'm

4:10 ↗ here to talk about mobility master plan

4:14 ↗ before I get started on that I have a

4:17 ↗ interactive presentation or are you all

4:20 ↗ tonight so I'm asked that you bring out

4:21 ↗ your smartphones if you have them

4:23 ↗ because I'll be collecting a lot of your

4:25 ↗ feedback via this I'll also be taking

4:27 ↗ notes for those who don't have a

4:28 ↗ smartphone but this is actually really

4:32 ↗ helpful as part of the discussion that

4:33 ↗ we'll be having tonight as we walk

4:35 ↗ through each of the policies that were

4:37 ↗ outlined in your staff report that was

4:39 ↗ provided to you first question to test

4:44 ↗ this out to make sure everybody's

4:45 ↗ connected go to mentee comm on your

4:48 ↗ smartphone once you're on that website

4:51 ↗ enter the code that's in the top right

4:53 ↗ there

4:54 ↗ and that'll bring you straight to this

4:57 ↗ presentation

5:35 ↗ okay that's when the original probably

5:50 ↗ was a manufacturing and eventually was

5:51 ↗ shipped out to the northwest which is

5:53 ↗ now the trolley that we use now I don't

5:57 ↗ have if you have questions on I have too

5:59 ↗ many answers Historical Society they

6:04 ↗ have a ton of information it's actually

6:05 ↗ really interesting all right so the last

6:08 ↗ time we met we've talked last fall about

6:11 ↗ potential policies that we should be

6:13 ↗ considering related transportation but

6:16 ↗ also consistent with a lot of the boards

6:18 ↗ Commission's goals and in terms of the

6:20 ↗ type of policies you just got on a

6:22 ↗ regular basis and I'm not going to spend

6:24 ↗ too much time on it the main thing that

6:27 ↗ knows this is a summary of what we heard

6:29 ↗ and you'll get this presentation later

6:31 ↗ so you can review it again most of the

6:33 ↗ policies were discussing tonight are in

6:36 ↗ reaction and addressing a lot of these

6:38 ↗ concerns that were told to us in our

6:40 ↗ discussions last fall where we are in

6:45 ↗ the project now is kind of in the tail

6:47 ↗ end of developing all those policies

6:49 ↗ programs and projects we are now just

6:52 ↗ confirming what we heard with a lot of

6:55 ↗ you and making sure that we didn't miss

6:57 ↗ anything in terms of like the type of

6:59 ↗ policies that we should be considering

7:01 ↗ the next part of this project is going

7:04 ↗ to be going to plan drafting and as part

7:07 ↗ of that following that there will be a

7:10 ↗ review process that there will be off

7:12 ↗ another opportunity to comment on overly

7:14 ↗ master

7:16 ↗ for the policies we'll discuss tonight

7:19 ↗ they are more specific to the type of

7:23 ↗ projects we'll be developing as part of

7:25 ↗ the mobility master plan but also it'll

7:27 ↗ help us identify the strategies that

7:28 ↗ we'll be using to implement much of

7:31 ↗ those projects I don't have a ton of

7:34 ↗ time with you tonight so I'm gonna ask

7:36 ↗ that I'd limit questions to one or two

7:38 ↗ per policy and then save more time for

7:41 ↗ policies at the end of the presentation

7:45 ↗ the first question or first policy I

7:48 ↗ want to consider for you is committing

7:52 ↗ to a vision zero goal this is a goal

7:56 ↗ that would eliminate traffic deaths and

7:58 ↗ serious injuries related to collisions

8:00 ↗ on this claustrum streets by 2040 have

8:05 ↗ many of you heard of a vision zero goal

8:07 ↗ before and some cities in our areas have

8:09 ↗ adopted something like this you may have

8:11 ↗ heard of target zero that the state has

8:14 ↗ adopted of that's more specific to our

8:16 ↗ state roads and what's a managed by the

8:18 ↗ state each city and jurisdiction still

8:20 ↗ has to adopt its own policy we don't

8:22 ↗ just fall under the state policy are

8:26 ↗ there any questions related to this type

8:28 ↗ of policy

8:33 ↗ so were you getting stats from under

8:35 ↗ something like this so a lot of this is

8:38 ↗ coming from collision data that is

8:40 ↗ already collected by our Police

8:42 ↗ Department but also the state much of

8:45 ↗ the reported collisions that go to them

8:48 ↗ aren't really encompassing everything

8:50 ↗ and that's part of the vision zero goal

8:54 ↗ is actually trying to talk with

8:56 ↗ emergency services and talking with

8:58 ↗ hospitals and try to get more accurate

9:00 ↗ description of what the data actually

9:03 ↗ should look like

9:04 ↗ because right now a reported collisions

9:06 ↗ isn't everything it doesn't take into

9:08 ↗ account the the level of discomfort

9:11 ↗ people have of being on the roadways it

9:13 ↗ doesn't take into account near misses in

9:16 ↗ situations where you are almost hit but

9:19 ↗ something that actually happens quite

9:20 ↗ often in certain areas of the city and

9:23 ↗ as part of this vision is actually

9:26 ↗ taking a closer look at that and taking

9:28 ↗ a more proactive approach to roadway

9:30 ↗ safety because what we know in the

9:33 ↗ industry now is that we we there's

9:35 ↗ certain types of infrastructure designs

9:37 ↗ that we can incorporate with our streets

9:39 ↗ that we know have a higher statistic

9:42 ↗ value of being high risk for people

9:46 ↗ walking or riding a bike or kind of

9:48 ↗ cross the street and we know that we can

9:53 ↗ take a more proactive approach and avoid

9:55 ↗ those type of situations or design

9:57 ↗ streets a little bit differently so that

9:59 ↗ we people have a better chance of

10:01 ↗ walking away from any situation they

10:03 ↗ might come into does this include

10:05 ↗ pedestrian deaths yes

10:16 ↗ so how do you you know where do you draw

10:19 ↗ the line on serious injuries and how are

10:21 ↗ you actually even establishing that is

10:24 ↗ it the initial report of an accident

10:25 ↗ wouldn't necessarily include a lot of

10:28 ↗ that information so collision reports

10:30 ↗ actually categorize different types of

10:32 ↗ collisions and the state does even

10:34 ↗ particularly as part of their target

10:36 ↗ zero goal they are establishing what a

10:39 ↗ serious injury is and what it says a

10:41 ↗ serious injury is it and so we could

10:44 ↗ follow very similar criteria or we can

10:46 ↗ establish our home and so as part of

10:47 ↗ this process if we take on this goal we

10:50 ↗ wouldn't need to establish a lot of a

10:51 ↗ criteria ourselves do you know what the

10:58 ↗ current rates of traffic deaths and

11:01 ↗ serious injuries are in the city of

11:04 ↗ squat at the moment I don't 2019 data is

11:08 ↗ still being processed by the state so

11:11 ↗ once they're done with that we'll get it

11:12 ↗ from them and I'll have a better answer

11:14 ↗ on that I move on to the next policy if

11:19 ↗ that's okay

11:22 ↗ so the next one is prioritizing safety

11:24 ↗ improvements at locations with a history

11:26 ↗ of severe or fatal collisions now the

11:28 ↗ city is already doing this most cities

11:30 ↗ do this already they follow reported

11:34 ↗ history collisions to prioritize their

11:36 ↗ investments but it's never been actual

11:40 ↗ policy of the city has never actually

11:41 ↗ been written down in a trash station and

11:44 ↗ it was just something we did and so now

11:47 ↗ we're actually putting in detail and

11:49 ↗ it's something that's gonna be

11:51 ↗ complementing the the proactive approach

11:53 ↗ not just assuming we're gonna be

11:57 ↗ avoiding these situations but also

11:59 ↗ looking at what the history is things

12:01 ↗ that we aren't really seeing and being

12:02 ↗ able to address those as well this one's

12:06 ↗ a little more straightforward but are

12:07 ↗ there any questions on this one

12:17 ↗ so for this policy it's implementing

12:19 ↗ Complete Streets principles to create a

12:21 ↗ multimodal system for all users the main

12:24 ↗ thing to note with this is we already

12:25 ↗ have a Complete Streets policy and city

12:28 ↗ code but it's a little dated and we're

12:31 ↗ actually in the process of updating it

12:33 ↗ what's new what this is actually saying

12:35 ↗ creating a multimodal system and

12:37 ↗ creating it for all users two big

12:41 ↗ concepts related to Complete Streets

12:43 ↗ because the original assumption was you

12:46 ↗ would just put a bike lane and a

12:48 ↗ sidewalk everywhere and you have a

12:49 ↗ Complete Streets but now we know you

12:52 ↗ can't necessarily do that and in going

12:54 ↗ in the way of a context-based design

12:57 ↗ system you have to be a little more

12:59 ↗ specific in terms of like what you

13:02 ↗ install it where you install it and so

13:04 ↗ this is new in the way that we're gonna

13:06 ↗ be doing Complete Streets for

13:08 ↗ multi-floral system but for all users

13:13 ↗ any questions on this one

13:27 ↗ I think one of the biggest questions I

13:29 ↗ usually get about this is aren't is if

13:33 ↗ the city is already doing do we need a

13:35 ↗ policy and my typical response is yes

13:40 ↗ because it's not a policy we don't have

13:41 ↗ anything to really hold ourselves

13:43 ↗ accountable to it we can say we're doing

13:46 ↗ it but we have no way of really saying

13:49 ↗ yes we're doing and we're gauging

13:51 ↗ ourselves based on this policy and

13:53 ↗ that's what the new policy is so for

13:59 ↗ this the next two policies it's related

14:03 ↗ to the build-out of the pedestrian

14:04 ↗ network and I have to explain it a

14:05 ↗ little because it's a little more

14:07 ↗ complicated than what it was before and

14:09 ↗ and the reason for that is with a

14:11 ↗ context based design we are trying to

14:14 ↗ break it out into four different four

14:16 ↗ different tier groups and for the first

14:18 ↗ group is more specific to high activity

14:21 ↗ pedestrian areas where we say in all

14:24 ↗ major streets we want to build out five

14:25 ↗ to ten feet of sidewalk on both sides of

14:27 ↗ the street and that's because of the

14:29 ↗ demand a lot of that is looking at that

14:32 ↗ context of where the streets gonna be

14:34 ↗ located but also related to the demand

14:36 ↗ for tier two is looking at five-foot

14:38 ↗ sidewalks on both sides of streets near

14:43 ↗ a lot of those high activities areas so

14:45 ↗ for Tier one that's gonna be all

14:48 ↗ essential Issaquah Old Town the

14:51 ↗ commercial area up in Highlands tier two

14:53 ↗ it's gonna be a lot of those residential

14:55 ↗ streets in that same area but that

14:57 ↗ aren't really those major streets that

15:00 ↗ really call for a warrant sidewalk on

15:04 ↗ both sides of the street or ten-foot

15:07 ↗ sidewalks on both sides Street and then

15:09 ↗ for tier three it's a five foot sidewalk

15:11 ↗ on one side of major streets in all

15:13 ↗ other areas of the city so outside

15:15 ↗ central Issaquah outside of Bolton and

15:18 ↗ the commercial area in Highlands all

15:20 ↗ major streets will have at least a

15:22 ↗ sidewalk on one side and then for Tier

15:24 ↗ four for residential streets it's

15:27 ↗ looking more at a shared Street approach

15:29 ↗ not necessarily saying that we're going

15:30 ↗ to build a sidewalk on one side not

15:32 ↗ excluding sidewalks if

15:34 ↗ that is what the neighborhood is gonna

15:36 ↗ need but saying we're gonna be looking

15:38 ↗ at more shared Street approach in the

15:40 ↗ brief reason for that is traditionally

15:43 ↗ when we looked at build out a present

15:45 ↗ walking Network throughout the city we

15:48 ↗ just said we're gonna build a sidewalk

15:49 ↗ everywhere

15:50 ↗ it hasn't really been successful for us

15:53 ↗ but for most people who have said that

15:54 ↗ over the years and so we have to take my

15:57 ↗ more prioritized approach of where we

15:59 ↗ actually build sidewalk investments and

16:01 ↗ we're not gonna say okay we'll

16:03 ↗ prioritize certain streets for sidewalks

16:05 ↗ and everybody else is just on their own

16:07 ↗ it's saying everywhere else on their own

16:09 ↗ we're gonna do something different and

16:11 ↗ that's where the 28th we're out 20 mile

16:13 ↗ per hour speed limit and more shared

16:16 ↗ Street approaches is looking at

16:18 ↗ potential traffic calming maybe putting

16:20 ↗ in different crossing improvements may

16:23 ↗ be looking at other improvements that

16:25 ↗ may make it more comfortable for people

16:27 ↗ to walk and ride their bike I'll share

16:29 ↗ in the street with cars and it's gonna

16:32 ↗ be different on depending on which

16:34 ↗ neighborhood you're in but it's it's to

16:37 ↗ say that we're gonna try something

16:38 ↗ different that we can't afford and more

16:39 ↗ realistically do in a 20 year time frame

16:44 ↗ I was just gonna how do you shared you

16:48 ↗ surround some multi-purpose trails some

16:53 ↗ are identified as 10 to 12 feet fit into

16:56 ↗ this pedestrian network they would they

16:59 ↗ would kind of they would fall into the

17:01 ↗ tier one side of things where you have

17:04 ↗ the high - a strain areas and it's not

17:08 ↗ to say it won't be included on the other

17:10 ↗ areas of the city is those are more

17:12 ↗ corridor specific as these we had at Air

17:14 ↗ Force different areas of the city so

17:17 ↗ you'll still have those multimodal

17:18 ↗ 10-foot trails

17:20 ↗ residential streets that are already

17:22 ↗ identified in the park strategic plan

17:24 ↗ but in terms of everywhere else in that

17:27 ↗ same neighborhood it's gonna be looking

17:29 ↗ at these different tiers Stevenson

17:30 ↗ Vanessa maybe a clarifying point as well

17:32 ↗ so the pedestrian that network you're

17:34 ↗ talking about what these four tiers are

17:35 ↗ really those definitions all look to me

17:39 ↗ like they're based there on right away

17:41 ↗ yes the on right away pedestrian

17:43 ↗ networks right how would this we have an

17:46 ↗ off right away pedestrian network that

17:49 ↗ obviously want to talk to one another

17:51 ↗ and integrate correct yes okay yeah and

17:55 ↗ so that's it all falls into that whole

17:57 ↗ context base design this is more

18:00 ↗ specific to the on the right-of-way

18:01 ↗ network how we're going to be designing

18:04 ↗ it but in the context of if it's

18:05 ↗ connecting to off right-of-way network

18:07 ↗ we're gonna be designing specific to

18:09 ↗ that okay I would like to suggest that

18:12 ↗ tier one being increased to 12 feet

18:14 ↗ because that's how it's written in the

18:17 ↗ goals and policies of park strategic

18:19 ↗ plan for some of those multi-purpose

18:21 ↗ trails like the mountains of sound trail

18:22 ↗ yeah okay so okay I yes with respect to

18:32 ↗ new neighborhoods I have a concern if

18:35 ↗ we're not I don't really know where how

18:38 ↗ this fits into development requirements

18:41 ↗ or not but I have a concern if we're not

18:44 ↗ requiring sidewalks on both sides of the

18:47 ↗ street so I live in talus and on the

18:50 ↗ main road going into talus there's only

18:52 ↗ there's a sidewalk only on one side of

18:54 ↗ the street and it's a safety issue

18:57 ↗ because people use still use the other

19:00 ↗ side of the street and there's there's

19:01 ↗ not a seat yeah there there's no

19:03 ↗ sidewalk there right and they're not on

19:05 ↗ the shoulder down the street and so if

19:08 ↗ we're not requiring a developer to put

19:10 ↗ in a sidewalk on both sides of the

19:12 ↗ street that's a major road that there

19:14 ↗ won't do it right you know and so that's

19:18 ↗ that's my concern for the build-out of

19:21 ↗ new developments and what were

19:24 ↗ connecting to so for

19:26 ↗ example of Tallis if there's going to be

19:28 ↗ continued development in that

19:29 ↗ neighborhood which there is the

19:31 ↗ requirement it's going to remain the

19:33 ↗ same that a sidewalk stay on one side

19:34 ↗ but this is this this is saying is that

19:37 ↗ for a lot of the pre-existing

19:38 ↗ neighborhoods

19:39 ↗ we're not going to just go out and build

19:41 ↗ a sidewalk everywhere I understand my

19:43 ↗ concern is that for a new development I

19:45 ↗ think that it should actually be in both

19:47 ↗ sides of the street there's some funky

19:49 ↗ little neighborhoods and tiles as well

19:50 ↗ where there's a sidewalk on this side of

19:52 ↗ the street for five houses and then and

19:54 ↗ then it stops

19:56 ↗ and then you have to cross the street if

19:57 ↗ you want to stay on a sidewalk you

19:58 ↗ actually have to cross the street

19:59 ↗ there's no intersection it's just like

20:01 ↗ the middle of the street and get on the

20:03 ↗ other side of the street to be on it so

20:05 ↗ if you're like pushing a baby in a

20:06 ↗ stroller you know you're you're wanting

20:08 ↗ your kids to walk on the sidewalk they

20:10 ↗ can't actually do it on one side of the

20:12 ↗ street so to me it's a the city should

20:15 ↗ have a requirement that we impose it

20:17 ↗ actually be on both sides for new

20:19 ↗ development I totally understand that

20:20 ↗ for like existing development that's

20:22 ↗ it's more complicated than that but good

20:24 ↗ okay you don't require it it won't

20:26 ↗ happen right okay thank you any other

20:32 ↗ questions or comments on this one before

20:35 ↗ I get to the policy

20:39 ↗ so this one is asking essentially the

20:42 ↗ same question

20:43 ↗ shall we provide pedestrian facilities

20:46 ↗ based on context and nearby amenities

20:48 ↗ this is do you find this important is it

20:51 ↗ ok does that language need work oh and

20:55 ↗ one thing that I forgot to say is that I

20:57 ↗ may be following up this meeting with

20:58 ↗ additional questionnaire so I can get

21:00 ↗ more details just because I don't have

21:01 ↗ enough time to really have a deep dive

21:03 ↗ discussion with you I want to be able to

21:05 ↗ give you the opportunity and provide

21:07 ↗ more information would it be beneficial

21:12 ↗ even as you go through this with other

21:15 ↗ groups to maybe clarify on right away

21:18 ↗ pedestrian network yeah

21:29 ↗ are you meaning in this question but

21:32 ↗ actually network that you showed just

21:34 ↗ before yes

21:44 ↗ for the net this next one it's very

21:47 ↗ similar question but it's more specific

21:48 ↗ to roadway crossings should is the

21:53 ↗ context of the location of where we're

21:55 ↗ designing important

21:58 ↗ [Music]

22:14 ↗ all right for these next few a couple

22:18 ↗ couple policies that they also explain

22:20 ↗ it because it's specific to the bicycle

22:22 ↗ network an important concept to consider

22:25 ↗ when we're talking about bicycle

22:26 ↗ networks is there isn't just one type of

22:28 ↗ bike rider out there who's seen this

22:31 ↗ before

22:31 ↗ the different type of bike riders okay

22:34 ↗ so good actually most people most people

22:43 ↗ assume that all the bike riders that are

22:47 ↗ on the street is that 1% the strong

22:49 ↗ fearless spandex wires that you just see

22:51 ↗ everywhere and go everywhere anytime any

22:53 ↗ point but the truth of the matter is is

22:57 ↗ that when you really look at the

22:58 ↗ different type of bike riders that are

23:00 ↗ out on trails and the roads just out

23:04 ↗ riding their bikes in our community it

23:08 ↗ can be broken up in this kind of way

23:10 ↗ maybe not specifically in these

23:12 ↗ percentages this is kind of a general

23:13 ↗ percentages based on region but first

23:16 ↗ akua's gonna be very similar groups the

23:18 ↗ next group is gonna be enthusiastic

23:20 ↗ confidence where yeah we write the bike

23:22 ↗ and we go to the grocery store and pick

23:24 ↗ up something because there's a protected

23:27 ↗ bike lane that takes me straight to the

23:28 ↗ grocery store the next group is

23:30 ↗ interested in concerns and the

23:32 ↗ concerning part is that they don't feel

23:34 ↗ comfortable or bike riding is

23:36 ↗ inconvenient for the terrible thing and

23:39 ↗ then there's the other the last group

23:41 ↗ who's not gonna ride their bike

23:43 ↗ regardless of what you do or say that

23:47 ↗ percentage is also goes up and down

23:49 ↗ depending on the area they go to

23:50 ↗ depending on culture and infrastructure

23:53 ↗ you have in place this is important

23:56 ↗ because this is the context that we're

23:58 ↗ considering for building out the bike

24:01 ↗ network it's not just building out a

24:03 ↗ network based on land use it's also

24:05 ↗ looking at the different types of users

24:06 ↗ so for this first question on policy

24:11 ↗ should we build out the citywide bike

24:13 ↗ network specific to the enthusiastic and

24:16 ↗ the confident to ride their bike more

24:24 ↗ and I can go back to the last one if

24:25 ↗ that helps with clarifying this question

24:29 ↗ so if we if we disagree with saying I'm

24:32 ↗ unsure yeah

24:46 ↗ in your estimating the enthusiastic and

24:49 ↗ confident that set the 33% for the 60

24:54 ↗ it's the so it's really for the 7% plus

25:00 ↗ the strong and fearless who will use it

25:01 ↗ regardless of what we built oh okay

25:04 ↗ Steven guys good clarifying questions

25:06 ↗ yes Lisa where I work we were talking a

25:09 ↗ lot about ebikes

25:10 ↗ and the way that that's exploding and

25:12 ↗ really taking off especially in hilly

25:14 ↗ areas so you know future forecasting

25:16 ↗ into how many people are gonna change

25:18 ↗ that 7% a lot of the people in that 30

25:21 ↗ are probably gonna move in the next five

25:23 ↗ to ten years they've been thinking about

25:25 ↗ that in your future forecasts mmm-hmm I

25:27 ↗ just curious how that might adjust that

25:29 ↗ one seven ebikes is actually changing

25:31 ↗ the game quite a bit so for you know one

25:34 ↗ of the biggest issues that all the

25:36 ↗ boards and commissions brought up was

25:37 ↗ topography in a sofa and ebikes for

25:40 ↗ community like Issaquah really changes

25:42 ↗ how people approach our view bicycling

25:45 ↗ has a travel option because most of the

25:47 ↗ time people you know they hate the idea

25:50 ↗ of having to ride their bike to the

25:52 ↗ grocery store if you live up and Talas

25:54 ↗ never in happen exactly but if you have

25:57 ↗ an e-bike that basically carries you

26:00 ↗ most of the way and you barely break a

26:02 ↗ sweat making that trip you might

26:04 ↗ consider it for more of those situations

26:07 ↗ I'm not saying you'll do it but it's

26:09 ↗ it's more of on the positive end oh yeah

26:11 ↗ I could consider that because it is it

26:14 ↗ does make that trip a little bit easier

26:16 ↗ and you have facilities that you could

26:19 ↗ use to make the trip you know we're

26:21 ↗ seeing us when people buy an e bike

26:22 ↗ typically right now because they're

26:24 ↗ early adopters they're you know already

26:27 ↗ biking someone but they bike about seven

26:30 ↗ to eight times more than they previously

26:32 ↗ did just on their regular bike so we're

26:34 ↗ seeing a huge increase mm-hm

26:35 ↗ even from people who are already riding

26:37 ↗ their bikes quite a bit so yeah and a

26:40 ↗ lot of that that percentage is in terms

26:42 ↗ like number of trips is people making

26:44 ↗ trips to the grocery store that's within

26:45 ↗ three miles from their house when they

26:48 ↗ used to drive

26:50 ↗ and because it's such a short trip if

26:52 ↗ it's nice and convenient for them now

26:58 ↗ so the next one is looking more specific

27:01 ↗ the high activity areas that will be

27:03 ↗ designed in the bicycle cities designed

27:04 ↗ for the higher level of comfort to

27:07 ↗ encourage people who are interested with

27:10 ↗ concern so it's looking at that bigger

27:13 ↗ percentage and the reason why we're

27:17 ↗ looking at the more high activity

27:18 ↗ centers for that design specific or

27:21 ↗ level of comfort is because those areas

27:23 ↗ are actually designed to really

27:25 ↗ encourage this activity where we want to

27:29 ↗ design these areas where kids feel

27:31 ↗ comfortable riding around in the area

27:34 ↗ because you're gonna have a lot more

27:36 ↗ about here and it's these are higher

27:37 ↗ density areas where people are going to

27:40 ↗ be walking more or riding their bike

27:41 ↗ more encouraged to use transit more and

27:44 ↗ if they're not comfortable if kids

27:46 ↗ aren't comfortable really using that

27:47 ↗ area you're basing creating a desert for

27:49 ↗ kids to never go outside and so that's

27:52 ↗ why we're being this specific on bicycle

27:54 ↗ facilities in these areas

28:05 ↗ is in process of mapping these areas

28:09 ↗ Steven yes high activity areas etc yeah

28:13 ↗ yeah so I'm curious how that correlates

28:16 ↗ to all of our topics tonight in terms of

28:19 ↗ the creek corridor right this

28:21 ↗ north-south our consultant has been

28:24 ↗ instructed to line up our facilities

28:28 ↗ with Park strategic event facilities so

28:30 ↗ everything should line up for this next

28:37 ↗ policy it's a little more

28:39 ↗ straightforward but it's important that

28:40 ↗ we address access or address transit

28:43 ↗ services as a policy and I want to get

28:45 ↗ your ideas on is this important to you

28:49 ↗ is there something that we should be

28:50 ↗ considering and that's from your

28:55 ↗ perspective as a resident but also as a

28:57 ↗ park board member

29:02 ↗ I don't I'm not sure that I understand

29:05 ↗ another would sure what this means so

29:09 ↗ similar to the walking and biking

29:13 ↗ facilities only certain areas worn

29:16 ↗ different type of facilities so for this

29:18 ↗ for transit services maybe we look at

29:22 ↗ rerouting certain services so that

29:23 ↗ complements certain areas of the city so

29:26 ↗ areas either higher density parks areas

29:30 ↗ that weren't where you have different

29:32 ↗ levels of pedestrian activity that

29:35 ↗ support transit service itself which is

29:37 ↗ important but also supports the context

29:40 ↗ of the land use itself too so the land

29:44 ↗ is it does that mean just like

29:46 ↗ commercial or kind of like Park land use

29:49 ↗ or also like residential that is like

29:52 ↗ multi-family high-density anything where

29:55 ↗ where you'll see a lot higher pedestrian

29:58 ↗ activity on this on the right-of-way or

30:01 ↗ on the streets so Park plan would be a

30:03 ↗ little multi-family housing commercial

30:06 ↗ areas are all fit in that category

30:22 ↗ for this excellence is more specific to

30:24 ↗ access to transit and the difference to

30:27 ↗ that is how we get to transit versus the

30:29 ↗ transit services themselves and one

30:32 ↗ thing that we never really outlined but

30:35 ↗ talked about was making sure that we're

30:39 ↗ integrating our walking and biking

30:41 ↗ Network specific to how we're designing

30:44 ↗ our transit network as well so making

30:47 ↗ sure our walking and biking networks

30:48 ↗ leads specifically to our transit

30:50 ↗ facilities that's something that

30:52 ↗ everyone assumes that we do where I've

30:55 ↗ done and it's not true in all instances

30:59 ↗ so we wanted to have this policy to make

31:02 ↗ sure that we're helping being held

31:04 ↗ accountable to it

31:11 ↗ any questions on this one

31:25 ↗ you have a separate policy that

31:27 ↗ approaches maximizing transit use by by

31:32 ↗ going into neighborhoods that don't have

31:34 ↗ transit yes

31:37 ↗ but that'll be a different policy that

31:39 ↗ we'll have in the master plan but it's

31:42 ↗ it won't be it's not gonna be called

31:45 ↗ fixed transit services it's be something

31:48 ↗ similar to flexible transit services so

31:50 ↗ it's gonna be looking more at

31:51 ↗ partnerships with different

31:54 ↗ transportation companies to help get

31:56 ↗ access from the neighborhood's out to

31:59 ↗ the major transit centers or different

32:01 ↗ transit facilities so maybe it's a

32:03 ↗ partnership with uber and lyft where

32:05 ↗ they're subsidized rides from your

32:08 ↗ houses out to miss quad transit center

32:10 ↗ or maybe it's a partnership with another

32:13 ↗ transit transit agency transportation

32:16 ↗ agency that provides shuttle services to

32:18 ↗ your neighborhood since it's any of

32:21 ↗ those type of options that we can

32:22 ↗ explore for this next policy it's more

32:28 ↗ specific to the use of our multimodal

32:32 ↗ system but making sure that we're making

32:34 ↗ our that you serve our roadways more

32:36 ↗ efficient and it's important that we

32:40 ↗ look at intelligent transportation

32:42 ↗ systems of related to our signals

32:44 ↗ because that can actually help move the

32:46 ↗ efficiency not just of cars but also

32:48 ↗ people going through the intersections

32:51 ↗ it also plays a very important role in

32:54 ↗ terms of improving the safety of people

32:56 ↗ crossing the street as well

33:03 ↗ any questions on this one so I guess my

33:09 ↗ question is the in a crosswalk

33:13 ↗ you're gonna delay turning cars turning

33:17 ↗ and letting people get across the street

33:20 ↗ two or three seconds before the light

33:22 ↗ for cars to turn or I don't understand I

33:25 ↗ guess I don't quite understand that this

33:27 ↗ is or is it like the bus signals here

33:30 ↗ where the buses get to go before

33:31 ↗ everybody else but um that's that's one

33:34 ↗ of the things you can do to help improve

33:36 ↗ visibility of pedestrians so they get

33:39 ↗ like a second to go out into the roadway

33:41 ↗ before cars are allowed to potentially

33:44 ↗ turn but it's not always that it's more

33:48 ↗ of looking at an adaptive system so that

33:49 ↗ the system is actually able to track all

33:52 ↗ the cars going through the buses going

33:54 ↗ through larger vehicles going through

33:55 ↗ how often people are crossing the street

33:58 ↗ from certain directions and actually

34:00 ↗ prepare the lighting system for

34:01 ↗ something like that so it's actually

34:04 ↗ being more efficient on how it's

34:06 ↗ allowing certain movements go through

34:08 ↗ the intersection

34:22 ↗ the next one is actually related to your

34:24 ↗ question on auto delay so related to

34:28 ↗ vision zero and the prioritization of

34:30 ↗ safety for people using the streets

34:32 ↗ should we be prioritizing the safety of

34:34 ↗ pedestrians and bicyclists and

34:36 ↗ intersections regardless of potential

34:39 ↗ impact on auto design and this is an

34:41 ↗ important question because it was never

34:43 ↗ a it's never really been discussed

34:45 ↗ openly and that's why we want to have

34:47 ↗ these conversations is I want to I want

34:50 ↗ to hear your feedback on something like

34:51 ↗ this because right now we have

34:53 ↗ conflicting policies of we want to

34:55 ↗ maximize auto movement through

34:56 ↗ intersections but we also want to

34:59 ↗ maximize the safety of people in the

35:02 ↗ city and right now they're in conflict

35:04 ↗ because what we know is if you maximize

35:07 ↗ the safety of people through

35:08 ↗ intersections it potentially has an

35:10 ↗ impact on how to delay it doesn't always

35:13 ↗ but in most instances it does any

35:18 ↗ comments or questions on this one I just

35:22 ↗ think somebody that's in a hurry is

35:23 ↗ gonna know that there's that's that's

35:31 ↗ important comment because I hear it a

35:33 ↗ lot and there are things we have to do

35:36 ↗ to try to change change travel behavior

35:38 ↗ but there are ways for us to control

35:40 ↗ travel behavior too in terms of

35:41 ↗ restricting right turns at certain

35:43 ↗ intersections or restricting left turns

35:45 ↗ at certain intersections and so there

35:47 ↗ are there are steps we can take to help

35:49 ↗ control some of this some of it's gonna

35:51 ↗ take extra enforcement by police

35:53 ↗ departments something that we're gonna

35:55 ↗ be have to coordinate with them to work

35:57 ↗ with them on some policies like this

36:00 ↗ this going to be in any areas where they

36:05 ↗ have the flag so people can pick up a

36:06 ↗ flag and walk across the street or is

36:08 ↗ this just pretty much for signals this

36:10 ↗ is primarily for signals the question

36:14 ↗ about the crossings and context that

36:17 ↗ would probably be where we look at

36:19 ↗ potential flags for crossings or other

36:21 ↗ types of tools for other crossings yes

36:34 ↗ does that mean you can cross all

36:36 ↗ directions yes yeah that's a super

36:38 ↗ efficient way to move a lot of people

36:40 ↗ yep and then just stop yeah that's not

36:43 ↗ going in at the three trails crossing

36:44 ↗ yeah where Gillman trial is like salmon

36:50 ↗ or the run your truck is Lake Sammamish

36:53 ↗ trail and Rainier trail yeah yeah I

36:55 ↗ would think my crunch street and and

36:57 ↗ sunset would be another around yeah it

37:01 ↗ would be another good place for that

37:02 ↗ something like that for this next policy

37:09 ↗ is related to parking should the city be

37:11 ↗ taking more on proactive approach with

37:13 ↗ managing public parking particularly in

37:15 ↗ high activity pedestrian areas of the

37:16 ↗ city to improve availability this is

37:20 ↗ direct response to what we heard from I

37:23 ↗ believe from this board but most of the

37:24 ↗ voice of commissions on the near-term

37:26 ↗ demand for parking third there's a huge

37:29 ↗ demand for parking that the city needs

37:32 ↗ to address and so this is gonna be

37:34 ↗ taking a little more proactive approach

37:35 ↗ of looking at what kind of efficiency

37:37 ↗ improvements we could be making at least

37:39 ↗ in the short term and long term maybe it

37:42 ↗ means building a parking facility in

37:45 ↗ certain areas but we don't know

37:47 ↗ protected because a parking structures

37:50 ↗ are very expensive and even just a

37:54 ↗ surface parking lot are still very

37:57 ↗ expensive in my last row section that

38:00 ↗ worked we built a 64 stall surface

38:04 ↗ parking lot that

38:05 ↗ $900,000 they're not cheap in any way

38:09 ↗ and the reason for that is there's a lot

38:11 ↗ of environmental concerns related to

38:13 ↗ having surface parking lots you have to

38:16 ↗ meet certain requirements when in terms

38:17 ↗ like the type of materials you have to

38:19 ↗ use and it cost just add up and so we

38:24 ↗ have to look at efficiency of parking

38:27 ↗ availability versus the capacity of it

38:29 ↗ not saying capacity won't be considered

38:31 ↗ just more of it won't be the only option

38:34 ↗ any questions on this one I mean I think

38:38 ↗ we spoke about this in a recent park

38:41 ↗ board meeting - I think there's there's

38:44 ↗ definitely some stressors I think in

38:46 ↗ some areas of our community that like I

38:50 ↗ suspect that people are coming in and

38:52 ↗ parking it all day and using transit in

38:55 ↗ areas that are designed to be doing that

38:59 ↗ it's especially back behind Veterans

39:01 ↗ Memorial Field and you know off Front

39:03 ↗ Street it's really hard to find parking

39:05 ↗ and I would love to see that being you

39:07 ↗ know like 2 or 3 hour for hour you know

39:09 ↗ kind of parking so you know that people

39:11 ↗ aren't using it for commuter parking

39:17 ↗ as a city considered at all like doing

39:24 ↗ metered parking or anything either to

39:26 ↗ raise money in order to like build more

39:29 ↗ parking the city has looked at that

39:32 ↗ there was a parking study that was done

39:34 ↗ last year that looked at Highlands old

39:37 ↗ town french street and i think somewhere

39:40 ↗ is essential but I think was mostly a

39:41 ↗ bull town in Islands and they did look

39:43 ↗ at a lot of those options I don't know

39:45 ↗ I'll have to look at what the study

39:47 ↗ concluded yeah but either option that we

39:51 ↗ were gonna consider what's gonna take a

39:53 ↗ lot of investment whether it is an

39:56 ↗ investment in because when you when you

39:59 ↗ put out a timed parking place not just

40:02 ↗ meters but if you put two our for our

40:04 ↗ limits on parking spaces yeah I have

40:06 ↗ somebody enforcement we currently don't

40:07 ↗ have the capacity on the police

40:09 ↗ departments to do that so that would

40:12 ↗ look at potentially either contracting

40:13 ↗ with the third-party service or that's

40:17 ↗ looking at hiring parking enforcement

40:18 ↗ officers for ourselves and that's

40:21 ↗ something both take huge investments

40:24 ↗ from the city to be able to do that to

40:26 ↗ operate it and maintain it and we

40:28 ↗ currently don't have anybody on staff

40:29 ↗ designated to even manage in a system

40:32 ↗ like that so it's another thing you have

40:34 ↗ to consider as part of it doing

40:35 ↗ something like that

40:36 ↗ so what's more economical along those

40:38 ↗ lines staffing we're meters

40:42 ↗ depends depends on where the revenue for

40:46 ↗ both go to get the staff to meet or

40:49 ↗ don't you exactly

40:50 ↗ most cities who have let's say a

40:53 ↗ third-party vendor or parking

40:54 ↗ enforcement officers most of their most

40:59 ↗ of that staffing or that support is

41:01 ↗ funded by the ticketing or by the meters

41:06 ↗ that's one of the other meters usually

41:09 ↗ represent a smaller percentage

41:10 ↗ surprisingly it's usually the ticket

41:13 ↗ violations that support the majority of

41:15 ↗ staffing for metering and managing this

41:18 ↗ so it's it's kind of a it's a careful

41:22 ↗ consideration the city has to make it's

41:24 ↗ not it's not an easy overnight kind of

41:26 ↗ change we can kind of make but it's

41:28 ↗ something that we have to think really

41:29 ↗ thoroughly how about I think you point

41:31 ↗ to Steven either one represents an

41:35 ↗ investment correct there is an initial

41:37 ↗ investment of capital investment the

41:38 ↗ city needs to make good to be exploring

41:42 ↗ them right and those options that you

41:44 ↗ mean when you say the proactive approach

41:45 ↗ are there other good I'll be the I'm the

41:50 ↗ outlier I think I would prefer we try to

41:52 ↗ get more people on bikes and walking and

41:54 ↗ improve the way the walkability then

41:56 ↗ building parking lots and ticketing

41:58 ↗ people so yes money there I am all about

42:02 ↗ giving people with options to get around

42:04 ↗ right any other questions before I move

42:08 ↗ on this one yeah as a counterpoint to

42:11 ↗ that I I'm not all about ticketing

42:13 ↗ people either but um but I think that if

42:16 ↗ we are able to open up some parking

42:18 ↗ spaces it'll you know it'll help all the

42:20 ↗ businesses on Front Street and people to

42:23 ↗ go into the park and all that kind of

42:24 ↗ stuff because a lot of times you just

42:25 ↗ end up driving through and it's like or

42:27 ↗ idea like a drive through I can't find

42:29 ↗ anywhere barks oh right like I'm

42:30 ↗ somewhere else that yeah that's a lot so

42:33 ↗ I'm sure I'm not the only one yeah no

42:36 ↗ it's a lot of different people have

42:39 ↗ different opinions of Petunia when it

42:40 ↗ comes to parking so it's that's why you

42:43 ↗ had to take such a careful approach to

42:46 ↗ managing

42:47 ↗ this last question that I have actually

42:50 ↗ wasn't in your staff report or something

42:52 ↗ that my fault wasn't added to your staff

42:55 ↗ part but is an important question that

42:56 ↗ we have on how the city is going to be

43:00 ↗ addressing climate change and the

43:03 ↗ question or the policy is incorporating

43:05 ↗ the greenhouse gas emissions into the

43:09 ↗ evaluations selection of mobility

43:10 ↗ investments something that we

43:12 ↗ traditionally and conventionally haven't

43:14 ↗ done so the question is is this

43:17 ↗ important to actually do that can you

43:24 ↗ give an example of how like with that

43:26 ↗ sure let's say let's say we look at

43:31 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions and look at the

43:34 ↗ type of projects that might reduce

43:35 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions one would be

43:37 ↗ increase in the number of people riding

43:39 ↗ bikes increase number of people walking

43:42 ↗ or using transit so projects that boosts

43:46 ↗ a lot of those type of ridership will

43:48 ↗ get higher score essentially when either

43:51 ↗ picking or prioritizing a project and so

43:54 ↗ like for the example you gave earlier

43:57 ↗ about like the different options of

43:58 ↗ maybe getting people getting people to

44:01 ↗ transit from neighborhoods that aren't

44:03 ↗ connected that would prioritize having a

44:06 ↗ shuttle that might pick up a bunch of

44:08 ↗ people rather than uber right subsidies

44:10 ↗ which is just replacing your other car

44:13 ↗ with my cart yeah how can we how can we

44:18 ↗ move the most amount of people or goods

44:21 ↗ and at the same time reduce the amount

44:23 ↗ of emissions coming out of that

44:25 ↗ situation or trip that's essentially how

44:29 ↗ you have to look at it

44:31 ↗ any questions on this one

44:38 ↗ I think that's it for me

44:41 ↗ any follow-up questions on all of it or

44:43 ↗ anything specific so what kind of a

44:46 ↗ timeline are you looking at to actually

44:48 ↗ have a plan boom we're looking to have

45:00 ↗ the plan adopted by September there's

45:03 ↗ some deadlines we had to meet with

45:05 ↗ meeting with Council discussing a lot of

45:07 ↗ these policies starting in next month

45:10 ↗ actually and so we'll be kind of working

45:14 ↗ through that process of discussing a lot

45:16 ↗ of the policies how to prioritize

45:18 ↗ projects and then coming up and

45:20 ↗ discussing a prioritized list of

45:22 ↗ projects through the drafting of the

45:24 ↗ plan and once we have that draft

45:26 ↗ available then we'll go out to the ports

45:28 ↗ and commissions again and say here's

45:29 ↗ here's that draft plan here's it all

45:31 ↗ laid out based on what we discussed are

45:34 ↗ we missing anything is there anything

45:36 ↗ that we might have misheard and that'll

45:41 ↗ be around to life when we come back out

45:43 ↗ I really appreciate these updates

45:46 ↗ Stephen from my memory this takes me

45:51 ↗ back to our two-year process of our Park

45:53 ↗ strategic plan right and I think the

45:56 ↗ numerous touches and really in the end

45:57 ↗ of this macro level goal that we had for

46:01 ↗ what as a unified system look like I had

46:04 ↗ a lot of ways that's the elevation that

46:07 ↗ you're trying to achieve with this right

46:10 ↗ looking at all it is it's it's it's

46:17 ↗ fairly complicated because we have so

46:19 ↗ many planning documents talking about

46:21 ↗ transportation and one of the biggest

46:23 ↗ goals the part of this project was

46:24 ↗ trying to consolidate and bring bring it

46:26 ↗ all in and not have someone referred to

46:29 ↗ you know title 18 for something

46:32 ↗ translation policy and then also the wok

46:34 ↗ and roll plan and also a parking study

46:37 ↗ page so is it was really trying to bring

46:39 ↗ it all in so that we refer to one

46:40 ↗ guiding document related to

46:43 ↗ transportation and mobility related to

46:45 ↗ how you guys tackled the park strategic

46:48 ↗ plan so it's it's I think it's really

46:49 ↗ important

46:50 ↗ on this board really was the steering

46:52 ↗ committee that helped to Shepherd them

46:54 ↗ you know you've got a board working with

46:56 ↗ you on that

46:58 ↗ so women how do you cross factors get

47:04 ↗ that'll be that'll be May June once

47:10 ↗ we've got an idea more feedback from

47:13 ↗ Council on the by organization and

47:15 ↗ investments we'll have a better idea of

47:17 ↗ where to actually apply costs and timing

47:20 ↗ for the implementation because one of

47:27 ↗ the things is we the project list we're

47:29 ↗ generating is really a consolidation of

47:31 ↗ all project lists so it's a really long

47:34 ↗ list so we can't we don't really want to

47:36 ↗ have our consultants spend time pricing

47:39 ↗ all of them we want a certain number

47:42 ↗ that we're really gonna be implementing

47:43 ↗ over the next five to ten years that we

47:45 ↗ really want to have cost us timing for

47:52 ↗ opportunities there's federal grant

47:57 ↗ opportunities a lot of state grant

47:58 ↗ opportunities with Complete Streets in

48:01 ↗ particular having our own Complete

48:03 ↗ Streets policy makes us eligible for an

48:07 ↗ award program the state has that can

48:09 ↗ give us either 502 million dollars for

48:12 ↗ funding pretty much any related project

48:14 ↗ to Complete Streets there's federal

48:17 ↗ grants related to improving access to

48:19 ↗ transit

48:20 ↗ there's partnerships we can go on with

48:22 ↗ Metro and Sound Transit to either build

48:26 ↗ structure or have some type of

48:27 ↗ partnership to increase access to

48:29 ↗ transit facilities or improve a transit

48:31 ↗ facility there there's a lot of

48:34 ↗ different options depending on what you

48:35 ↗ want to do I know it could kind of a big

48:39 ↗ unknown with our Park strategic plan was

48:42 ↗ sort of where like the light rail

48:44 ↗ station will be placed and sort of how

48:47 ↗ because we it was important to us that

48:49 ↗ we'd be able to connect to

48:50 ↗ and connect and I'm assuming you're kind

48:54 ↗ of dealing with the same questions I

48:57 ↗ would love to answer that because it's a

49:01 ↗ hard to do you have an idea of justit I

49:06 ↗ mean it's timing on that I mean next

49:09 ↗ year we're gonna be taking on developing

49:11 ↗ a transit plan we're hoping to have that

49:13 ↗ answer before then yeah so we're we're

49:16 ↗ looking at having some transit related

49:18 ↗ discussions this year to help lead into

49:20 ↗ development of that chance of plan but

49:22 ↗ there's no timeline on that yet that's

49:24 ↗ still kind of a process of development

49:26 ↗ and is are you doing anything with

49:31 ↗ coordinating with other jurisdictions to

49:33 ↗ kind of because as a collosseum to be

49:36 ↗ the first point of mass transit for a

49:40 ↗ lot of our neighboring communities so

49:42 ↗ people drive to Issaquah Park and then

49:44 ↗ you know have to take the bus back to

49:46 ↗ Issaquah and then you know then they're

49:48 ↗ like filling our surface streets are you

49:51 ↗ coordinating it all with or was part of

49:53 ↗ this project coordinating with other

49:54 ↗ jurisdictions so maybe get some more

49:55 ↗ transit centers you know yeah farther

49:59 ↗ out yeah so part of the data evaluation

50:05 ↗ for this was looking at regional travel

50:08 ↗ behavior and so we collected a lot of

50:10 ↗ information of where people are

50:12 ↗ traveling from in and out of the city so

50:15 ↗ that's gonna help us prioritize a lot of

50:17 ↗ those types of partnerships and talking

50:19 ↗ with hey cities have a mesh where you

50:21 ↗ notice a good percentage of people going

50:24 ↗ to this Transit Center are coming from

50:25 ↗ your city let's let's talk about them

50:28 ↗ talk me with Metro see if we can figure

50:30 ↗ something else so yes that's a question

50:35 ↗ any other questions

50:39 ↗ great thank you for having thank you

50:41 ↗ yeah appreciate it

50:43 ↗ so I'll follow up with an email on kind

50:45 ↗ of a follow up questionnaire that you

50:46 ↗ can provide a lot more detail just good

50:51 ↗ thank you

50:59 ↗ so city's gonna have to buy me a

51:01 ↗ smartphone if we're gonna continue with

51:03 ↗ [Laughter]

51:16 ↗ okay yeah absolutely I kick that off

51:27 ↗ looking at time we're doing okay we'll

51:32 ↗ be as efficient as we can and certainly

51:34 ↗ safe tonight for Q&A I thought I'd kick

51:38 ↗ this off with a thank you I know we had

51:42 ↗ a chance to talk briefly last month

51:44 ↗ about goals and vision statements as we

51:48 ↗ shared with you that last meeting we

51:50 ↗ were going to be again shaping concepts

51:53 ↗ and began ideally getting a survey out

51:57 ↗ and kicking off phase of engagement here

52:01 ↗ this month so we're back reporting to

52:05 ↗ you we had a chance to share with City

52:07 ↗ Council last Monday night Monday last

52:10 ↗ Tuesday the 18th provided them an update

52:16 ↗ with the work that we've been working on

52:19 ↗ with you and the initial look at

52:21 ↗ concepts tonight our intent as you

52:26 ↗ looked at the PowerPoint presentation a

52:28 ↗ lot of what you're seeing tonight is

52:29 ↗ similar to what was shared with the

52:32 ↗ council I think like I shared with

52:37 ↗ council we're really this project

52:39 ↗ represents

52:41 ↗ period we're in and that we're really

52:43 ↗ coming off of phase one engagement phase

52:47 ↗ one engagement if you recall was really

52:49 ↗ about looking at these three parks

52:52 ↗ holistically we're now with these

52:56 ↗ concepts and beginning to go into more

53:00 ↗ site-specific conversation really

53:02 ↗ kicking off phase two which is really

53:05 ↗ where a lot of the work is going to be

53:09 ↗ bird site-specific turn the slide Jim

53:17 ↗ thank you this is a slide I shared with

53:21 ↗ City Council don't really need to dive

53:24 ↗ deep into this but just a reminder and

53:26 ↗ really talking about our anchor document

53:30 ↗ that being at Parc strategic plan this

53:33 ↗ is very talking with Steven about and

53:35 ↗ that this plan is really what shapes our

53:38 ↗ priorities and our work some of what we

53:41 ↗ heard through this process was let's

53:45 ↗ make sure we take care of what we have

53:47 ↗ let's let's modernize and make sure our

53:50 ↗ current parks really support our needs

53:52 ↗ there's a lot of our theme of

53:54 ↗ placemaking let's make sure our system

53:58 ↗ connects and better connects is led to

54:02 ↗ our Creek corridor in a lot of ways this

54:06 ↗ plan really helped us to identify if

54:09 ↗ you're call us summer these three parks

54:13 ↗ that we launched this effort on really

54:15 ↗ being the foundational parks within our

54:19 ↗ city system in particular the valley

54:22 ↗ system and those three parks being

54:24 ↗ Tibbets Valley Park really being an

54:27 ↗ anchor not only to what it is

54:29 ↗ historically but an anchor to where

54:32 ↗ central Issaquah and all that planning

54:35 ↗ work has it that neighborhood of that

54:37 ↗ Park will be changing in future years

54:40 ↗ Veterans Memorial Park being the next

54:44 ↗ anchor and really its history and its

54:47 ↗ place in connection to Old Town and

54:50 ↗ supportive of Old Town both as a

54:52 ↗ neighbor

54:53 ↗ but also front Street as a commercial

54:54 ↗ area and then the the third foundation

54:58 ↗ anchor being the creek corridor the city

55:01 ↗ of taking these years of acquisitions

55:04 ↗ that the city has bought both along the

55:06 ↗ creek and through really the heart of

55:09 ↗ the city and unifying it and connecting

55:12 ↗ it this work what I reminded council is

55:16 ↗ its intent is for us to really be

55:19 ↗ forward-thinking to begin taking the

55:22 ↗ long view for this site-specific work

55:25 ↗ and for these projects

55:26 ↗ the idea being we're really creating a

55:31 ↗ vision with the community to understand

55:36 ↗ and understand that future investments

55:39 ↗ and those future investments will likely

55:41 ↗ be a mix of large and small investments

55:45 ↗ regardless of the size of those

55:46 ↗ investments we'll be moving towards this

55:51 ↗ intended vision as opposed to I think

55:54 ↗ sometimes we've heard in the past as

55:58 ↗ we've made small investments in certain

56:00 ↗ parks well how does that fit how does

56:01 ↗ that fit into the big picture this

56:03 ↗ really allows us to have that big

56:05 ↗ picture for these three spaces and

56:09 ↗ really be proactive another slide we

56:16 ↗ shared

56:29 ↗ next steps and like I said this is we're

56:32 ↗ really transitioning to some next phases

56:35 ↗ of engagement I just wanted to share

56:39 ↗ this with you before hang yourself off

56:41 ↗ to Jennifer to talk through and walk

56:43 ↗ through these concepts and really what

56:45 ↗ the intention of this survey is we've

56:50 ↗ got a lot of work ahead of us and I

56:53 ↗ think going from these this magnificent

56:57 ↗ engagement where we were looking at all

56:59 ↗ three parks collectively and their

57:01 ↗ relationships they have we're now really

57:03 ↗ going to be

57:04 ↗ into more of a park by park approach to

57:08 ↗ these the information we intend to get

57:12 ↗ back from these surveys really will

57:15 ↗ allow us to explore what the community

57:18 ↗ feels about opportunities with the

57:20 ↗ program what the community feels about

57:22 ↗ program ideas trade-offs that we're

57:25 ↗ gonna have to really work through

57:29 ↗ competing preferences likes and dislikes

57:33 ↗ all this survey feedback and work with

57:37 ↗ you as as a steering group will really

57:40 ↗ help us to work towards a better

57:43 ↗ informed preferred concept and the

57:46 ↗ consulting team will likely be doing

57:48 ↗ this through the spring and summer in a

57:53 ↗ probably a more of a park by park

57:55 ↗ approach whereas as a survey feedback

57:59 ↗ comes back really prioritizing what what

58:02 ↗ park do we want to look at first and

58:06 ↗ probably in different Park board

58:09 ↗ meetings whereas leading up to this

58:12 ↗ we've sort of talked about all three in

58:13 ↗ the same meeting we're gonna be reaching

58:16 ↗ a point where we'll probably want to do

58:17 ↗ one park per per meeting is as we really

58:21 ↗ begin to dive into this I can say that

58:26 ↗ you know our goal has been to complete

58:28 ↗ this work by the end of this year but I

58:30 ↗ think given the enthusiasm we heard from

58:33 ↗ council in their response to the update

58:39 ↗ we gave them I think the enthusiasm we

58:42 ↗ hear from the community and and I think

58:43 ↗ the desire to really look at a vast

58:46 ↗ array of differing priorities that these

58:49 ↗ parks have this very well could go into

58:53 ↗ 2021 it could go into next year and and

58:56 ↗ I think I don't want to feel like we're

58:58 ↗ so beholding to the schedule that we

59:00 ↗ feel like we're rushing rushing this

59:03 ↗ work it's important that we really allow

59:06 ↗ all these phases to play themselves out

59:10 ↗ phase one engagement you're all familiar

59:15 ↗ with what that was next slide

59:17 ↗ sorry I need to say Bing lots of

59:23 ↗ responses lots of different enthusiastic

59:26 ↗ support like I shared that response that

59:31 ↗ survey response the feedback we heard is

59:34 ↗ we studied that and and work through

59:36 ↗ that with you I think it really

59:38 ↗ reiterated and echoed a lot of the park

59:40 ↗ plan and this idea of let's reinvest and

59:43 ↗ what we have let's have what we have be

59:48 ↗ more diverse and address more needs

59:52 ↗ let's connect what we have better

59:56 ↗ engagement I won't go through each of

59:58 ↗ these but as you see throughout the last

1:00:03 ↗ several months we have engaged with many

1:00:07 ↗ different partners many different

1:00:09 ↗ interest groups I think what's going to

1:00:11 ↗ be important as we go through these next

1:00:12 ↗ phases of engagement that we continue

1:00:14 ↗ those conversations those relationships

1:00:17 ↗ into the next phases I think the next

1:00:22 ↗ slide jumps into the actual just archers

1:00:25 ↗ themselves with respect to that slide I

1:00:28 ↗ just want just for the benefit of people

1:00:30 ↗ here that the sports teams engagement in

1:00:35 ↗ August and in January neither of those

1:00:37 ↗ included Issaquah Little League is a

1:00:41 ↗ co-op baseball club or the high school

1:00:45 ↗ age teams that are based in Issaquah and

1:00:50 ↗ filled by Issaquah families so that was

1:00:52 ↗ a big gap there were six of the nine six

1:00:56 ↗ of the the city owns nine baseball

1:00:59 ↗ fields and six of them are on these two

1:01:01 ↗ properties so Veterans Memorial Tibbets

1:01:03 ↗ so from my perspective it's

1:01:05 ↗ disappointing at that that that didn't

1:01:08 ↗ occur and I know we have the contacts

1:01:10 ↗ now and it was a gap in in contacts but

1:01:13 ↗ I wish someone had said I wonder why

1:01:16 ↗ they're not showing up you know in

1:01:18 ↗ August no I wish we could have

1:01:22 ↗ I know I appreciate that I appreciate

1:01:23 ↗ that honesty and I know it was expressed

1:01:25 ↗ at the last meeting I know we had a

1:01:27 ↗ chance to meet with groups here a couple

1:01:30 ↗ weeks ago I really appreciate your

1:01:32 ↗ assistance in that and I appreciate the

1:01:34 ↗ feedback we heard from those groups and

1:01:36 ↗ baseball specific groups yeah

1:01:39 ↗ and certainly like I said remain

1:01:42 ↗ committed to as we're now just really

1:01:45 ↗ starting to get into some site-specific

1:01:47 ↗ work engagement with them the engagement

1:01:51 ↗ with the other sports groups and the

1:01:52 ↗ other very interested parties and

1:01:57 ↗ partners will be critical

1:02:00 ↗ so with that Jen do you want to tour us

1:02:04 ↗ I'm sort of a park peg Park again I

1:02:07 ↗ think we'll try and be real careful of

1:02:09 ↗ time knowing we've got some other things

1:02:10 ↗ just a suggestion up to you as a board

1:02:13 ↗ but maybe after each site maybe we have

1:02:17 ↗ a Q&A if you want to do that or Jen can

1:02:22 ↗ quickly drive through all three and we

1:02:24 ↗ save it all for Q&A whatever your

1:02:26 ↗ pleasure is all right well let me know

1:02:30 ↗ as we get rolling so as you may recall

1:02:34 ↗ last month at park board we went through

1:02:36 ↗ this very slide talking about the

1:02:39 ↗ feedback we've heard to date for

1:02:41 ↗ Tippit's Valley Park and what some of

1:02:43 ↗ the themes were the priorities and

1:02:45 ↗ program elements the community has hoped

1:02:48 ↗ to receive again we received hundreds of

1:02:51 ↗ responses through our engagement

1:02:54 ↗ processes and some of those opinions are

1:02:58 ↗ also conflicting should it be a tipis

1:03:01 ↗ valley park should it be at Veterans

1:03:03 ↗ Memorial should it be here or there so

1:03:04 ↗ these concepts are really meant to

1:03:07 ↗ identify some differences within each of

1:03:11 ↗ the parks different opportunities

1:03:13 ↗ potentials and really when we send out

1:03:16 ↗ the community survey get some feedback

1:03:18 ↗ as to what's sitting well with the

1:03:20 ↗ community what's resounding with them

1:03:23 ↗ you know we've heard different things

1:03:25 ↗ for different parts so for Tibbets just

1:03:29 ↗ a real quick

1:03:30 ↗ the themes were to improve and diversify

1:03:32 ↗ the sports fields for all season use

1:03:35 ↗ span types of program activities make

1:03:38 ↗ the creek and accessible feature connect

1:03:41 ↗ to the new dog park include programs

1:03:43 ↗ that support future urban growth and

1:03:44 ↗ quality of life add activities and

1:03:48 ↗ adjacent adjacent to the sports field

1:03:51 ↗ for all ages maintain and develop

1:03:53 ↗ natural areas for active and passive

1:03:55 ↗ recreation and a loop around the whole

1:03:57 ↗ trail programs - includes different

1:04:01 ↗ sports fields play skate park Plaza

1:04:04 ↗ public garden kiosk pavilion open lawns

1:04:07 ↗ and some hard court areas as well as

1:04:09 ↗ natural area access this first concept

1:04:14 ↗ is the crossroads and this one is really

1:04:19 ↗ meant to be a connection to the central

1:04:23 ↗ Issaquah plan along Newport Way Newport

1:04:27 ↗ Way is the edge of central Issaquah so

1:04:29 ↗ up in this area there is gonna end north

1:04:31 ↗ into the valley floor is going to be

1:04:35 ↗ more dense living so this concept

1:04:39 ↗ proposal really allows for more

1:04:41 ↗ penetration along the Newport edge

1:04:44 ↗ welcoming creating different uses and

1:04:48 ↗ activities while concentrating all the

1:04:50 ↗ sports uses in the center demonstrating

1:04:53 ↗ connection to the exist proposed dog

1:04:57 ↗ park and parking on both sides as well

1:04:59 ↗ as perhaps enhancing and expanding a

1:05:02 ↗ future skate park to provide further

1:05:04 ↗ connection also creating a amphitheater

1:05:08 ↗ and with additional trails connecting

1:05:11 ↗ throughout the park one thing we heard

1:05:14 ↗ you know some people didn't even know

1:05:15 ↗ there was the park here some common

1:05:18 ↗ themes are the creek not a park sorry

1:05:22 ↗ that's getting late so with this concept

1:05:27 ↗ and you'll see in all Tibbits Valley

1:05:30 ↗ Park concepts as there's we would

1:05:32 ↗ address the various types of sports

1:05:34 ↗ field uses

1:05:35 ↗ parking into various manners as well as

1:05:38 ↗ some options for what to do with the

1:05:41 ↗ manor house and when we go out to the

1:05:42 ↗ community with some of the survey

1:05:44 ↗ questions we're gonna be posing some

1:05:46 ↗ opportunities for people to further the

1:05:49 ↗ comment and discussion on these so these

1:05:51 ↗ surveys are really meant to evoke and

1:05:53 ↗ elicit more feedback that further help

1:05:56 ↗ refine and define what it is we've heard

1:05:58 ↗ today Jen I'm sorry if I real quick I

1:06:02 ↗ should have emphasized this these are

1:06:05 ↗ really intended to be concepts these are

1:06:07 ↗ not designs these are not at a level of

1:06:12 ↗ specificity it really is more about

1:06:14 ↗ programmatic programmatic and

1:06:18 ↗ connections there is on the consultant

1:06:24 ↗ team I mean the fields for example these

1:06:26 ↗ are not designed fields but these are

1:06:28 ↗ certainly fields that have a certain

1:06:30 ↗ size the survey will is intended to note

1:06:36 ↗ what the sizes of those fields would be

1:06:39 ↗ both soccer lacrosse but also baseball

1:06:42 ↗ softball in terms of I'm just giving a

1:06:45 ↗ sense of scale I know that was something

1:06:49 ↗ that we've talked about with the

1:06:50 ↗ baseball group and heard from some of

1:06:52 ↗ the other sports groups so though not a

1:06:54 ↗ design we're trying to find that sweet

1:06:56 ↗ spot in these concepts of size and scale

1:06:59 ↗ but not design right now it's more

1:07:05 ↗ spatial planning adjacency to

1:07:07 ↗ programming as you'll see here you know

1:07:10 ↗ most of the programming for additional

1:07:12 ↗ stuff outside of the sports field

1:07:14 ↗ programs are all along Newports way some

1:07:18 ↗ of the other options you'll see them in

1:07:20 ↗ different locations

1:07:21 ↗ so with that well quick yeah I'm sorry I

1:07:25 ↗ just need to make sure there was pie

1:07:26 ↗ don't say it when I see this I'm gonna

1:07:28 ↗ kick myself later a couple things just

1:07:31 ↗ from a baseball perspective

1:07:34 ↗ it's really nice when you're at

1:07:36 ↗ tournaments or have multiple kids in the

1:07:38 ↗ sports to have there's a reason they

1:07:39 ↗ design it with all the fields in the

1:07:41 ↗ Hope fields going out and have the key

1:07:43 ↗ which we don't see here it also looks

1:07:44 ↗ like there's three fields versus I

1:07:46 ↗ believe the six that they currently have

1:07:48 ↗ so five I got that look I so I would

1:07:53 ↗ just be remissed if I saw this but no

1:07:54 ↗ it's concepts to say like these parks

1:07:57 ↗ are that those baseball fields are busy

1:08:00 ↗ like there's not space to lose to fields

1:08:04 ↗ it's not that often that all five are

1:08:07 ↗ being used since nice to have that one

1:08:09 ↗ for free play so like what's nice is

1:08:12 ↗ that one that's back in the corner kids

1:08:14 ↗ can go play on that when it's not

1:08:15 ↗ usually programmed yeah this is going to

1:08:18 ↗ be one of the and you'll see in the

1:08:19 ↗ concepts different baseball alignments

1:08:23 ↗ and configurations and that's that is a

1:08:25 ↗ great point and I think it's one of the

1:08:29 ↗ conversation pieces that we'll want to

1:08:31 ↗ have as as part of this survey is when

1:08:37 ↗ we look at reimagining Tibbets valley

1:08:41 ↗ park reinvesting in Tibbets OE Park the

1:08:43 ↗ current configuration of fitting five

1:08:46 ↗ baseball fields on here still probably

1:08:53 ↗ does not allow for bringing in a

1:08:56 ↗ diversity of new Park elements into the

1:08:59 ↗ park right so it becomes one of those

1:09:02 ↗ competing pressures that we'll really

1:09:05 ↗ want to get some feedback from the

1:09:08 ↗ community and then as we really get site

1:09:11 ↗ specific about Tippett's Valley Park

1:09:13 ↗ that's probably one of these going to be

1:09:14 ↗ one of the big things we'll need to

1:09:15 ↗ wrestle with is if we want to aspire to

1:09:20 ↗ keeping five baseball fields there

1:09:25 ↗ and we'll probably have to give

1:09:26 ↗ something up on the other end in terms

1:09:28 ↗ of what that what else that part can

1:09:33 ↗ become and I don't I'm not I'm not the

1:09:36 ↗ one they answer that right I'm the one

1:09:38 ↗ to I think try and Shepherd and

1:09:40 ↗ facilitate the conversation but it'll be

1:09:42 ↗ a really important one and I would like

1:09:45 ↗ to just throw out that if if you're

1:09:46 ↗ going from five to three the three

1:09:48 ↗ should be in my view should be able to

1:09:51 ↗ be like like they should be the right

1:09:53 ↗ size to be able to accommodate the right

1:09:55 ↗ group so that then fill the gaps in our

1:09:57 ↗ system and also be able to really be

1:10:00 ↗ used like from as when I look and I

1:10:03 ↗ guess we should aren't supposed to get

1:10:04 ↗ into details but the it's a turf field

1:10:08 ↗ if you don't have outfield fencing a

1:10:12 ↗ situation like this is completely

1:10:14 ↗ worthless for older heads because of the

1:10:17 ↗ balls on a turf field just like a ground

1:10:20 ↗ ball becomes a home run

1:10:22 ↗ so what you could say is you could put

1:10:25 ↗ temporary fencing in right we're on your

1:10:28 ↗ three coming up on year three in our

1:10:30 ↗ Central Park turf field and we don't

1:10:31 ↗ have to have guns in there so I don't

1:10:33 ↗ want it I I'm very very nervous about

1:10:35 ↗ doing anything that where the first

1:10:39 ↗ thing to be cut is likely to be you know

1:10:41 ↗ budget wise so fencing that can come

1:10:43 ↗ later you know when and have a design

1:10:46 ↗ where you actually really need it so I

1:10:52 ↗ do have one question too and all these

1:10:54 ↗ on all these fields are it can I assume

1:10:57 ↗ that for the turf part these are all

1:10:59 ↗ turf and that there will be some sort of

1:11:02 ↗ fence around the entirety of that turf

1:11:05 ↗ area yeah because we don't that's

1:11:07 ↗ normally a bit of detail I know you

1:11:09 ↗ don't have it but would that be an

1:11:11 ↗ assumption that I would have would be

1:11:12 ↗ because most jurisdictions that have a

1:11:16 ↗ turf field have a fence around it okay

1:11:18 ↗ because I think that's important to

1:11:20 ↗ think about too this becomes

1:11:23 ↗ so probably some of the plaza areas we

1:11:25 ↗ want much like central park pad one

1:11:27 ↗ right yeah open area where we want it to

1:11:29 ↗ feel inviting and open for drop-in use

1:11:32 ↗ as opposed to closed on industry and so

1:11:36 ↗ probably yeah some mix yeah and that's

1:11:40 ↗ that's a level of detail that we'll get

1:11:42 ↗ into further down the road once we kind

1:11:45 ↗ of hone in on a preferred concept

1:11:47 ↗ because we'll have to remember all these

1:11:48 ↗ concepts and we go out for a survey well

1:11:51 ↗ listen a whole bunch of feedback that

1:11:52 ↗ will then have to digest into a

1:11:55 ↗ preferred concept that may likely look

1:11:57 ↗ like none of these that we're promoting

1:11:59 ↗ or may look highly similar to some of

1:12:02 ↗ these we won't know until we get is

1:12:04 ↗ there any chance of it getting a I might

1:12:06 ↗ get a gut reaction or so there's no way

1:12:08 ↗ we would ever be able to put a light in

1:12:09 ↗ on highway 908 route 900 which is where

1:12:13 ↗ that car access is right there which is

1:12:17 ↗ really close to the it's closer to the

1:12:20 ↗ intersection than where the Manor

1:12:23 ↗ driveway is that would be to me know

1:12:26 ↗ what a good non-starter daddy to see

1:12:28 ↗ what kind of entrance cuz it could be a

1:12:30 ↗ right in right out only it could be some

1:12:33 ↗ other possibility that certainly

1:12:36 ↗ warrants further traffic study as we get

1:12:39 ↗ down but that would be that's a confined

1:12:40 ↗ for me on this one and there'll be a lot

1:12:44 ↗ though there's several opportunities

1:12:45 ↗ within the survey to add differing

1:12:49 ↗ additional comments so that would

1:12:52 ↗ certainly be one that would be great to

1:12:53 ↗ add in on a common so just to kind of

1:12:57 ↗ keep with a mind to time here and the

1:13:01 ↗ survey will also be showing some of the

1:13:03 ↗ president inch images to help with VOC

1:13:06 ↗ some concepts as to what it might look

1:13:08 ↗ like the you know the amphitheater shown

1:13:10 ↗ over along the creek what an urban edge

1:13:13 ↗ might look like for a gathering space

1:13:15 ↗ and some penetration off of Newports way

1:13:18 ↗ what a pavilion for some gathering space

1:13:21 ↗ would be and how a manner could be

1:13:23 ↗ renovated

1:13:24 ↗ to provide additional works I'm gonna

1:13:29 ↗ keep going this is from one perspective

1:13:32 ↗ what it might look like as you are

1:13:34 ↗ walking through the space to help people

1:13:36 ↗ kind of imagine because some people have

1:13:37 ↗ a hard time reading plan view what it

1:13:39 ↗ might feel like to be in that space the

1:13:44 ↗ next concept is a promenade concept and

1:13:48 ↗ this one is really taking all the new

1:13:50 ↗ amenities that before in the Crossroads

1:13:54 ↗ concept we're all up along Newport are

1:13:57 ↗ now honed in on a very wide gathering

1:14:00 ↗ space that divides the the sports fields

1:14:03 ↗ here so all those activities really you

1:14:06 ↗ have a focused access now from SR 900

1:14:08 ↗ Newport intersection in the strong spine

1:14:11 ↗ that connects through the park

1:14:13 ↗ we still have parking on both sides of

1:14:16 ↗ the park here in differing baseball

1:14:19 ↗ fields as well as a grass area and some

1:14:21 ↗ public gardens and some other hardcourt

1:14:23 ↗ sports again some additional loop trails

1:14:26 ↗ in and around the creek area and some

1:14:29 ↗ revamping of the manor house there's

1:14:33 ↗ also you may see kiosks in some of these

1:14:36 ↗ concepts and some other Plaza spaces for

1:14:39 ↗ gathering this athletic field concept

1:14:42 ↗ takes a little bit more of a baseball

1:14:44 ↗ centric perspective than then the other

1:14:49 ↗ one

1:14:49 ↗ but again just a variety of ways to try

1:14:53 ↗ and show programmatically how to create

1:14:56 ↗ variety but multi-use but also recognize

1:15:02 ↗ some of the constraints that happen to

1:15:06 ↗ that Park in terms of athletic fields as

1:15:08 ↗ we try and add other elements to that so

1:15:11 ↗ Jeff I would love to see this like I

1:15:13 ↗ know that this got revised a little bit

1:15:14 ↗ after we spoke but I would still love to

1:15:18 ↗ see this option have those fields those

1:15:20 ↗ multi-purpose fields or like the soccer

1:15:22 ↗ or lacrosse fields flips so they're

1:15:26 ↗ within the outfield East Lake High

1:15:29 ↗ School does that would Emile high school

1:15:31 ↗ does

1:15:33 ↗ coal creek all fields do that there's a

1:15:36 ↗ but most sort of fields that are like

1:15:38 ↗ actual baseball field say they do it in

1:15:42 ↗ on diagonal and that would allow us to

1:15:45 ↗ show an option where there was actually

1:15:47 ↗ an outfield and it you know and it

1:15:50 ↗ stopped and it would allow all that

1:15:53 ↗ extra space outside of those baseball

1:15:55 ↗ fields to be grass or used for different

1:15:58 ↗ programmatic manner I don't know why

1:16:01 ↗ they have the feel like don't have to

1:16:04 ↗ show that layout and any of these

1:16:06 ↗ options but guess what other

1:16:08 ↗ jurisdictions are doing and they might

1:16:12 ↗ have to be like modified sized soccer

1:16:14 ↗ fields or smaller ones but but that was

1:16:17 ↗ like that's an actual useful size for a

1:16:19 ↗ particularly atrium so then here are

1:16:25 ↗ just some of what the concept images you

1:16:28 ↗ know here's showing one of those like

1:16:30 ↗ what the spine would be with a multi-use

1:16:32 ↗ activity corridor what that would look

1:16:36 ↗ like what some play and some outdoor

1:16:38 ↗ creek areas might look like as well as a

1:16:41 ↗ revised manner and again here's a here's

1:16:47 ↗ a sketch looking down what would be the

1:16:49 ↗ active spine of the park and what it

1:16:51 ↗ might be for kids to play on and

1:16:54 ↗ families to gather as you've got

1:16:56 ↗ children playing on fields or

1:16:58 ↗ playgrounds within the park space the

1:17:01 ↗ next one is the creek wave concept and

1:17:03 ↗ this one is really focuses all of the

1:17:08 ↗ areas that were in the promenade and

1:17:12 ↗ where the Newport Way really focuses

1:17:14 ↗ them more along the creeks edge for

1:17:17 ↗ engagement allowing the sports fields to

1:17:20 ↗ really take up the center of the field

1:17:22 ↗ this field layout is actually the most

1:17:25 ↗ resembled of what is existing now out on

1:17:28 ↗ site utilizing these Center spaces there

1:17:33 ↗ are some additional sport court

1:17:35 ↗ reorientation

1:17:36 ↗ but this also allows the creek in

1:17:39 ↗ times of flood - perhaps flood over in

1:17:43 ↗ this area versus over and through the

1:17:46 ↗ fields so this could actually have a

1:17:47 ↗ very big storm component to it which

1:17:52 ↗ some of the other concepts don't show in

1:17:55 ↗ this fashion but certainly would be

1:17:58 ↗ considered in further design as far as

1:18:01 ↗ the functionality but you know again we

1:18:03 ↗ still have some plaza and some creek

1:18:06 ↗ over overlook areas and some trails in a

1:18:08 ↗ revamped manner and further connections

1:18:12 ↗ throughout the park and you can see

1:18:13 ↗ there's a walking loop out and around

1:18:16 ↗ this one has a parking garage right oh

1:18:18 ↗ yes this one excuse me thank you for

1:18:20 ↗ pointing that out

1:18:21 ↗ Danielle all the other concepts maintain

1:18:24 ↗ this parking over on the Newport Way in

1:18:27 ↗ S or 900 corner this one does remove

1:18:30 ↗ that and assumes that there would be a

1:18:33 ↗ stacked or parking structure over on

1:18:36 ↗ this side the hillside and access

1:18:38 ↗ actually accommodates for some of that

1:18:40 ↗ and there could be whoo sorry I'm moving

1:18:45 ↗ things and this really could be a very

1:18:50 ↗ cool use within the park space and

1:18:52 ↗ actually provide some additional usable

1:18:55 ↗ areas and this one also adds a community

1:18:59 ↗ building I think next up Courtney rush

1:19:01 ↗ to you which is different yeah so a

1:19:03 ↗ community building would be used for

1:19:05 ↗ gatherings or other activities meeting

1:19:08 ↗ space whatever would need to be used for

1:19:12 ↗ a meeting room or gathering space yeah

1:19:15 ↗ it's like it has a splash pad - yep

1:19:20 ↗ these concepts are trying to try to show

1:19:23 ↗ variety of ideas likely and again how

1:19:27 ↗ the survey would be framed we wouldn't

1:19:29 ↗ be asking you have to pick one of these

1:19:32 ↗ three concepts really I think we're

1:19:34 ↗ gonna garner

1:19:35 ↗ likes dislikes from all of these

1:19:39 ↗ concepts that will really help to I

1:19:43 ↗ think probably start to pull ideas from

1:19:47 ↗ each of them preferred ideas for each of

1:19:50 ↗ them into a preferred and here's what

1:19:56 ↗ some of those images might look like as

1:19:58 ↗ far as a floodable stormwater garden and

1:20:01 ↗ some multi-use trails throughout the

1:20:04 ↗ area

1:20:06 ↗ what does a floodable stormwater area

1:20:09 ↗ look like when it's like dry like in

1:20:12 ↗ like this all right now so you've got

1:20:14 ↗ some wet areas within there some yep

1:20:17 ↗ it's totally dry these could be garden

1:20:18 ↗ spaces with trails in and around and as

1:20:22 ↗ the waters flow they fill up with a

1:20:25 ↗ varying elevation we planted with

1:20:28 ↗ grasses or other other plants right that

1:20:32 ↗ are suitable to gain funding being

1:20:34 ↗ flooded on occasion yeah but can also

1:20:36 ↗ handle being dry in the drier seasons

1:20:38 ↗ yeah the rain garden out and behind pad

1:20:42 ↗ one actually functions that way so in

1:20:45 ↗ periods of high water or heavy rain cuz

1:20:47 ↗ the whole field flows into that you know

1:20:50 ↗ it gathers and filters the water that

1:20:53 ↗ comes on are you talking about back

1:20:55 ↗ behind that one there's a big new

1:21:00 ↗ constructed rain garden that was built

1:21:02 ↗ as part of the project and that's

1:21:04 ↗ functions very much like these would

1:21:06 ↗ where the premises of this concept was

1:21:09 ↗ really hearing from the community what

1:21:12 ↗ Tibbets Creek isn't if it's fell apart

1:21:15 ↗ right so how come I go in and I look how

1:21:18 ↗ might the creek become more of a element

1:21:21 ↗ of this part focus the activities more

1:21:25 ↗ along in and then here's what a sketch

1:21:30 ↗ might look like of what the park space

1:21:32 ↗ could feel like and then real quick

1:21:37 ↗ getting into Veterans Memorial again you

1:21:42 ↗ know some of the themes or play stronger

1:21:44 ↗ connection to the Senior Center maintain

1:21:46 ↗ the multi-use green and honoring of the

1:21:49 ↗ veterans All Seasons use way to stroll

1:21:52 ↗ around improving connections on the west

1:21:56 ↗ side potentially adding you're changing

1:21:58 ↗ parking how do we connect to the depot

1:22:02 ↗ park and really Gardens came out as a

1:22:05 ↗ big one for this space with plants being

1:22:08 ↗ a destination so some of the program

1:22:11 ↗ elements I tried to get incorporated

1:22:12 ↗ into the concepts include play field

1:22:17 ↗ open Green Memorial strolling splash

1:22:20 ↗ community gardens Park Center Civic

1:22:22 ↗ Plaza planting gardens hard court spaces

1:22:26 ↗ commercial space really connecting to

1:22:29 ↗ the existing commercial spaces around

1:22:30 ↗ the area as well as further connection

1:22:33 ↗ to the train depot and the museum there

1:22:37 ↗ Jen is you're transitioning that first

1:22:39 ↗ one can I just you can go to the nap the

1:22:42 ↗ first concept sorry just just to

1:22:44 ↗ emphasize something we shared with the

1:22:45 ↗ council I think Deb from the thing did a

1:22:47 ↗ nice job of emphasizing it is and this

1:22:50 ↗ goes for Tippit's as well but part of

1:22:53 ↗ what we're trying to weave in to these

1:22:57 ↗ concepts to these ideas and to the

1:23:00 ↗ survey is is the art of storytelling in

1:23:06 ↗ the art and history and how do we take

1:23:10 ↗ advantage of all three of these anchor

1:23:13 ↗ spaces so these two parks and the creek

1:23:15 ↗ corridor and while we're putting a

1:23:19 ↗ vision on what we want them to be

1:23:21 ↗ recreationally we're also paying

1:23:23 ↗ attention to

1:23:24 ↗ ooh how art how celebrating our history

1:23:31 ↗ can be part of placemaking and there's

1:23:34 ↗ an artist that was on the design team

1:23:37 ↗ Don fells who's done some initial work

1:23:41 ↗ for Art Commission and also some

1:23:43 ↗ additional work for us in parks he's

1:23:46 ↗ part of this team and that will be some

1:23:50 ↗ key questions being asked in the survey

1:23:52 ↗ and again now as we're going into Phase

1:23:55 ↗ two and starting to think more site

1:23:57 ↗ specifically it'll be pretty I think

1:24:00 ↗ it'll be pretty exciting there I'm

1:24:01 ↗ showing my my bachelor's degree in

1:24:04 ↗ history but part of placemaking is a big

1:24:09 ↗ part of placemaking is all these spaces

1:24:12 ↗ have a story to tell in the history I'm

1:24:17 ↗ super glad you brought that up I would

1:24:19 ↗ love to have someone from the Historical

1:24:23 ↗ Society come and talk to us and share a

1:24:25 ↗ little bit about the history of this

1:24:27 ↗ park my understanding is that it was

1:24:29 ↗ purchased about a hundred years ago by

1:24:32 ↗ the volunteer fireman who were also also

1:24:34 ↗ comprised of baseball team with town

1:24:37 ↗ like baseball players and that they

1:24:39 ↗ bought this or I don't know all of it

1:24:42 ↗ but they bought the property they all

1:24:46 ↗ pitched in individually and bought it so

1:24:48 ↗ they would have a place to play baseball

1:24:50 ↗ and it's been used in those years for

1:24:54 ↗ baseball it also was a high school

1:24:56 ↗ football field and that has been

1:24:58 ↗ gathering places for her you know for

1:25:01 ↗ the community for the last hundred years

1:25:02 ↗ so it was disappointing so I would like

1:25:04 ↗ to hear more about that it was

1:25:06 ↗ disappointing to me that none of these

1:25:07 ↗ options retained that part of our

1:25:11 ↗ history which was by completely

1:25:16 ↗ eliminating any sort of concept of like

1:25:19 ↗ using this as an athletic facility which

1:25:21 ↗ is what it was purchased for a hundred

1:25:23 ↗ years ago and and bait has been used

1:25:25 ↗ since then and even as you know so

1:25:30 ↗ to me it's I really wish there was one

1:25:32 ↗ option in in these that retained that

1:25:38 ↗ that feel and that use it's flat it

1:25:44 ↗ could be it's right now it was

1:25:46 ↗ originally it was it had been for many

1:25:48 ↗ years a high school size field it's been

1:25:51 ↗ shortened so it's like a middle school

1:25:53 ↗ kind of aged feel now but a little

1:25:56 ↗ league sized field I'd be super curious

1:25:58 ↗ to see like what would happen if you put

1:26:00 ↗ in a Little League field there and what

1:26:03 ↗ would that size what else would it be

1:26:04 ↗ allowed and I would still keep kind of

1:26:06 ↗ that same like you know tradition if you

1:26:08 ↗ couldn't do that could you put in a

1:26:10 ↗ whiffle ball field or you know like

1:26:11 ↗ something so these concepts as you will

1:26:14 ↗ see they do maintain an open field area

1:26:17 ↗ for uses whether it's salmon days for

1:26:20 ↗ some of these other programming for

1:26:23 ↗ other you know maybe smaller fields or

1:26:26 ↗ month soccer or whatever for pickup we

1:26:29 ↗ wanted to become sports specific that's

1:26:31 ↗ partly why it's a routine and hundred

1:26:33 ↗ year history of being at being used for

1:26:35 ↗ sports fields so this park does not have

1:26:46 ↗ a restroom I don't believe it does

1:26:48 ↗ actually in Nick next to the baseball

1:26:50 ↗ field there's a there's a preschool

1:26:52 ↗ there currently and there's a couple

1:26:54 ↗ there's two stalls and also City Hall so

1:27:04 ↗ thank you Jeff for a reminder of the art

1:27:07 ↗ because this one really demonstrates a

1:27:09 ↗ lot of the history with its connection

1:27:12 ↗ to the rail line as well as the depot

1:27:15 ↗ and the museum this field this concept

1:27:19 ↗ really focuses more on some of the

1:27:21 ↗ history of the site and really plays to

1:27:24 ↗ some of the LA's and connections that

1:27:28 ↗ still creates a plaza for the senior

1:27:31 ↗ center as well as an open field but

1:27:34 ↗ some of the history hot finally also

1:27:38 ↗ revamping a garden space over here

1:27:41 ↗ because that was one thing we really

1:27:42 ↗ heard about this park in particular is

1:27:44 ↗ how can we increase Gardens as a

1:27:46 ↗ destination as well as a splash that was

1:27:50 ↗ a really loud comment received but this

1:27:56 ↗ one you know how can we also continue

1:27:58 ↗ our cut throughs and connections to the

1:28:01 ↗ existing space and areas within the park

1:28:06 ↗ this also shows a connection to alder

1:28:08 ↗ Street which is a future planned

1:28:12 ↗ Festival Street as well as the

1:28:16 ↗ pedestrian park down in here can you

1:28:19 ↗ explain what's going on there with that

1:28:21 ↗ rail station concept like that yeah so

1:28:24 ↗ the rail you might better off see and

1:28:27 ↗ some of the history so you know it's a

1:28:30 ↗ quiet some of the concepts that would be

1:28:32 ↗ integrated into the the images that

1:28:36 ↗ would be integrated would be you know

1:28:38 ↗ the history of the hops vines here the

1:28:40 ↗ LA as far as a treed walking garden but

1:28:42 ↗ also how we might interject the rail

1:28:45 ↗ lines but also playing how the rail is

1:28:48 ↗ used for former transportation but also

1:28:51 ↗ how it could be used to reconnection

1:28:53 ↗ with the rainier trail through there so

1:28:56 ↗ some really interesting concepts they're

1:28:59 ↗ not fully refined yet they're just kind

1:29:01 ↗ of 30,000 foot ideas as far as history

1:29:04 ↗ we're hoping to get a little more out of

1:29:06 ↗ the community engagement storytelling

1:29:08 ↗ about what that would look like in

1:29:10 ↗ detail and whether or not this resonates

1:29:13 ↗ with the community I think it's just how

1:29:15 ↗ do we take what is known as pedestrian

1:29:17 ↗ Park right and how do we strengthen that

1:29:22 ↗ connection back to veterans memorial

1:29:25 ↗ from that intersection right now you are

1:29:28 ↗ at Front and sunset right how do we what

1:29:33 ↗ do we do to reinforce yep that

1:29:38 ↗ connection

1:29:40 ↗ and then here's kind of what some of the

1:29:44 ↗ concepts and connections would be

1:29:46 ↗ demonstrating you're the depot's over

1:29:48 ↗ here on the left what a playground might

1:29:51 ↗ be in a plaza outside the Senior Center

1:29:53 ↗ as well as a splash la connecting down

1:29:59 ↗ the next concept is really based upon

1:30:02 ↗ the valley Meadow concept you know a lot

1:30:04 ↗ of people live up in the foothills area

1:30:06 ↗ and when they come down to the valley

1:30:08 ↗ wanting to kind of have this super bloom

1:30:11 ↗ loop again with plants as a destination

1:30:14 ↗ there's more of an integrated Civic

1:30:17 ↗ Plaza here with a splash play that

1:30:19 ↗ connects to the Senior Center and City

1:30:21 ↗ Hall and the depot and creating some

1:30:25 ↗ different connecting elements but there

1:30:27 ↗ is also a loop trail in and around the

1:30:30 ↗ open field for play and smoothness these

1:30:33 ↗ courts may be a kiosk and of different

1:30:37 ↗ seniors porch here are some different

1:30:39 ↗ ideas where the shared Street to go back

1:30:43 ↗ to the image you know may be parking

1:30:46 ↗ during the week but could easily be shut

1:30:48 ↗ down for use say on a weekend if there

1:30:51 ↗ was a big activity going on in the park

1:30:53 ↗ or the plaza area or salmon days could

1:30:55 ↗ be easily shut down here's some ideas as

1:30:59 ↗ to what that space could look like

1:31:02 ↗ making sure that you know with a super

1:31:04 ↗ bloom that there was color and interest

1:31:06 ↗ all year round and here's a sketch as to

1:31:10 ↗ what that plaza space would look like

1:31:11 ↗ again we'll be seeking additional

1:31:13 ↗ feedback on parking art from the

1:31:17 ↗ community as we go through these and

1:31:20 ↗ then this last concept is the foothills

1:31:23 ↗ and this is really intended to really be

1:31:28 ↗ focused around play we heard from the

1:31:30 ↗ community some interest in providing

1:31:32 ↗ some winter sports and winter gathering

1:31:35 ↗ spaces so while there is a loop splash

1:31:38 ↗ play water feature can also double as

1:31:42 ↗ perhaps a ice-skating rink in the

1:31:44 ↗ wintertime there's also some

1:31:47 ↗ Channel concert spaces further

1:31:52 ↗ connecting Depot Park the Senior Center

1:31:54 ↗ to pedestrian Park and alder Street

1:31:57 ↗ through here this would assume there's a

1:32:02 ↗ future for parking since some of it is

1:32:06 ↗ removed in here but showing just

1:32:11 ↗ demonstrating the extreme as to what

1:32:13 ↗ potentially could happen in that space

1:32:15 ↗ and now the park and this whole Civic

1:32:17 ↗ campus area could really start relating

1:32:19 ↗ to front street as an option here's what

1:32:23 ↗ some of those images could look like

1:32:26 ↗ creating a little more undulating edge

1:32:28 ↗ around that flat open area introducing

1:32:32 ↗ some native plants and what a splash

1:32:34 ↗ play area could look like in some plaza

1:32:38 ↗ spaces we're good well I was just gonna

1:32:42 ↗ say these three concepts are really

1:32:44 ↗ trying to you know the conversation we

1:32:46 ↗ had at park board meeting last month

1:32:47 ↗ about Veterans Memorial and that how do

1:32:51 ↗ we consider that parking area right and

1:32:56 ↗ we these concepts are not again trying

1:32:58 ↗ to design but trying to at least solicit

1:33:02 ↗ conversation on how programmatically

1:33:05 ↗ might we treat that parking lot do we

1:33:07 ↗ keep it as is and try and reinforce that

1:33:10 ↗ connection to Front Street boy what

1:33:14 ↗ would it look like if again forward

1:33:16 ↗ thinking you know Stephen padula and our

1:33:18 ↗ conversation if parking was to be

1:33:21 ↗ sometime in the future accommodated some

1:33:24 ↗ other way but what would it look like

1:33:26 ↗ for that connection of this spaces and

1:33:29 ↗ the depot building and the park and all

1:33:31 ↗ the history that's that's that close to

1:33:34 ↗ Front Street what would it look like to

1:33:35 ↗ relate in on a more pedestrian scale so

1:33:40 ↗ not a right or a wrong but just a

1:33:42 ↗ variance of experiences ya know the

1:33:48 ↗ splash pads it seemed like a ton of fun

1:33:50 ↗ but do we really have the temperature

1:33:53 ↗ and there is there any kind of study

1:33:55 ↗ that's been done to see what kind of

1:33:57 ↗ temperatures these splash play parks get

1:34:00 ↗ actually used in because I think that's

1:34:02 ↗ a huge concern is it's probably pretty

1:34:04 ↗ pricey and would people use it that's a

1:34:07 ↗ good question they are used a ton here

1:34:11 ↗ in the Seattle area in the northwest and

1:34:14 ↗ cities that have incorporated that idea

1:34:16 ↗ of water into play it's seasonal you're

1:34:19 ↗ absolutely right April it's it's

1:34:21 ↗ seasonal it's typically a depends on the

1:34:26 ↗ sum of the year but it's probably

1:34:27 ↗ Memorial Day through a Labor Day

1:34:31 ↗ I think when you have park spaces like

1:34:34 ↗ this that are close to a commercial area

1:34:36 ↗ it becomes an amenity another another

1:34:41 ↗ opportunity for kids and families to

1:34:43 ↗ play with water there they're quite

1:34:47 ↗ popular in the north so kids we had 70

1:34:50 ↗ degrees or 75 degrees yeah we do schools

1:34:55 ↗ can use on stuff like all summer long

1:34:59 ↗ many of the splash pads are designed

1:35:02 ↗ because you don't need a lot of surface

1:35:04 ↗ grade to them that when they're not in

1:35:06 ↗ use in the off seasons can double up as

1:35:08 ↗ a spark cord or some other activities or

1:35:10 ↗ applause or gathering space so they are

1:35:12 ↗ designed so they're a year-round

1:35:14 ↗ functional space and it's not just a

1:35:17 ↗ temporary you can't use it these other

1:35:18 ↗ days pointed out just completed big

1:35:25 ↗ player it is crazy but there's a water

1:35:28 ↗ element that's part of that and pretty

1:35:30 ↗ popular

1:35:31 ↗ I like that Park is popular so but the

1:35:36 ↗ water feature is nice it's not overly a

1:35:38 ↗ great lake it's not huge but it's super

1:35:41 ↗ busy and I think it's really fun so from

1:35:43 ↗ a part of my Park lonna like myself

1:35:45 ↗ perspective downtown park was years in

1:35:50 ↗ the making right when downtown park

1:35:52 ↗ didn't necessarily have was a strong

1:35:54 ↗ relationship to Main Street had a strong

1:35:56 ↗ relationship to Bell Square in the north

1:35:58 ↗ but not to Main Street and one of the

1:36:00 ↗ goals of that player a project and that

1:36:02 ↗ space was strengthening that

1:36:03 ↗ relationship to Main Street what day was

1:36:10 ↗ the Presidents Day

1:36:11 ↗ first day of break last week I bet there

1:36:13 ↗ was 400 kids there hmm

1:36:14 ↗ it was crazy like people were one in one

1:36:16 ↗ out trying to park their nuts and this

1:36:19 ↗ was a splash pad is really one thing

1:36:21 ↗ that we heard from the community that

1:36:22 ↗ they're desiring to have was in the

1:36:24 ↗ works OSHA my move we heard it in the

1:36:26 ↗ park strategic plan and it came out in

1:36:28 ↗ these surveys as well and I don't think

1:36:30 ↗ they need to be like you know I'm

1:36:33 ↗ obviously a splash pad type thing either

1:36:36 ↗ I mean I can go to some parks and

1:36:37 ↗ they're like you know it's it's like you

1:36:41 ↗ know in the offseason you would know

1:36:42 ↗ that you're in the middle of us about

1:36:43 ↗ the splash pad but like kick Harbor

1:36:46 ↗ House one that's a like a fisherman like

1:36:48 ↗ right on the water and it's like a I

1:36:50 ↗ think it's a memorial to the fishermen

1:36:52 ↗ who have been lost but it also has a

1:36:54 ↗ water feature and so if you're there and

1:36:56 ↗ you can like it can be on and like the

1:36:58 ↗ kids love that too and it then goes away

1:37:00 ↗ like it's a piece of art it's amazing

1:37:05 ↗ there's a park downtown Vancouver Esther

1:37:10 ↗ short Park Hilton Hotel that was just

1:37:14 ↗ created Esther short Park was a tired

1:37:16 ↗ Park that was in really bad shape

1:37:18 ↗ totally renovated their idea of water

1:37:22 ↗ play is this creek bed that again looks

1:37:25 ↗ like a beautiful piece of art but you go

1:37:27 ↗ there on a 65 degree day or one minutes

1:37:31 ↗ might as well be a splash pad and you'll

1:37:35 ↗ see in these concepts - between divots

1:37:37 ↗ and veterans we do explore kind of the

1:37:39 ↗ degree as to which water can be

1:37:41 ↗ introduced at these parks so real quick

1:37:44 ↗ I want to be respectful of time here and

1:37:47 ↗ I'm gonna kind of go super fast through

1:37:49 ↗ this there's really four different

1:37:50 ↗ elements and themes that came out of the

1:37:52 ↗ creek corridor concept um obviously our

1:37:55 ↗ spine is the main route from getting us

1:37:57 ↗ from squawk Valley Park to the south all

1:37:59 ↗ the way up to Lake Sammamish State Park

1:38:01 ↗ but within that we did hear from the

1:38:04 ↗ community that what these green know

1:38:07 ↗ direct being representative of existing

1:38:11 ↗ park spaces or parks along the creek as

1:38:14 ↗ destinations or anchors how might we

1:38:17 ↗ begin to create loops in and around that

1:38:20 ↗ main spine to create neighborhood routes

1:38:23 ↗ neighborhood walking areas but also if

1:38:26 ↗ you got on the main spine you could go

1:38:27 ↗ down to another section or another route

1:38:30 ↗ and you'll see this in some of the

1:38:31 ↗ graphics so you could come down to old

1:38:35 ↗ town and have your walking loop for old

1:38:36 ↗ town but yet maybe you have your

1:38:38 ↗ neighborhood loop and habitat in

1:38:42 ↗ honoring the creek and its natural

1:38:44 ↗ habitat

1:38:45 ↗ was super important but how can we weave

1:38:49 ↗ and still integrate our existing park

1:38:51 ↗ spaces into that habitat while creating

1:38:54 ↗ further enjoyment for the humans within

1:38:57 ↗ that space as well so these four themes

1:39:01 ↗ you'll really see represented in the

1:39:02 ↗ three different regions Pickering reach

1:39:06 ↗ the spine is represented as the pink

1:39:10 ↗ arrow with some opportunities for trail

1:39:13 ↗ and habitat but the loop would be the

1:39:17 ↗ secondary loop is this yellow and you

1:39:20 ↗ can see how that would then connect our

1:39:21 ↗ existing anchor parks which would be

1:39:23 ↗ Pickering barn and Emily Darst in this

1:39:25 ↗ area here are some images as to what the

1:39:31 ↗ creek corridor and this section of the

1:39:33 ↗ reach would look like old town reach is

1:39:36 ↗ going to have a little bit more of an

1:39:37 ↗ urban field just because of its location

1:39:39 ↗ to development it's pretty much a 90

1:39:43 ↗ down to just past Front Street Park here

1:39:47 ↗ with the pink being the main spine again

1:39:52 ↗ yellow representing loops in and around

1:39:54 ↗ confluence park here ooh sorry I'm not

1:39:57 ↗ sure why it keeps and then around old

1:40:01 ↗ town we'd might have an old town loop

1:40:03 ↗ again or a Gillman loop how can we

1:40:06 ↗ create walking spaces but then it easily

1:40:08 ↗ connect you

1:40:09 ↗ and obviously our wayfinding project

1:40:11 ↗ will play into this as well that we've

1:40:13 ↗ been working on and here's what some of

1:40:15 ↗ those paths for the old town reach might

1:40:19 ↗ look like a little more urban but still

1:40:21 ↗ respecting and honoring some habitat and

1:40:25 ↗ some gathering areas and then squat

1:40:27 ↗ valley reach again this is a much more

1:40:30 ↗ rural foothill experience down here with

1:40:33 ↗ a lot more complex habitats again we've

1:40:37 ↗ got connections along the main spine but

1:40:40 ↗ what a foot lose squat valley loop trail

1:40:43 ↗ might look like as far as connection to

1:40:47 ↗ the existing spaces and up into the

1:40:49 ↗ Squawk area reaches so we're going to be

1:40:53 ↗ going out to the community asking for

1:40:55 ↗ additional feedback on this as well as

1:40:56 ↗ how could art be integrated into the

1:40:58 ↗ reach what are some ideas or stories

1:41:01 ↗ that would be like told so we look

1:41:05 ↗ forward to hearing back from the

1:41:07 ↗ community on all of these concepts again

1:41:10 ↗ the feedback is going to get merged into

1:41:13 ↗ a preferred design and from there we'll

1:41:16 ↗ start a little deeper level design and

1:41:20 ↗ conversation for each site as Jeff

1:41:22 ↗ mentioned earlier engagement to date has

1:41:24 ↗ been collective and we will start

1:41:28 ↗ because there's been so many repetition

1:41:30 ↗ of you know splash park here splash park

1:41:33 ↗ here garden here garden there after this

1:41:37 ↗ process will start breaking out into

1:41:39 ↗ there each Park having their own path

1:41:42 ↗ towards adoption with the goal being

1:41:45 ↗ completion by the end of the year are

1:41:50 ↗ you are we going to have a chance to see

1:41:52 ↗ the survey before you send it out to the

1:41:54 ↗ public that's a great question I think I

1:41:59 ↗ would say I would just I would ask that

1:42:01 ↗ we do in the past what has happened is

1:42:05 ↗ we've had some surveys go out and like

1:42:09 ↗ the the bridge being one the confluence

1:42:12 ↗ Creek Bridge another one being when we

1:42:15 ↗ did some surveys on a potential Aquatic

1:42:18 ↗ Center and our last the priorities in

1:42:21 ↗ our last park board or park bond where a

1:42:24 ↗ survey goes out and then the park board

1:42:26 ↗ in our discussions we have questions or

1:42:31 ↗ you know there were like a question

1:42:32 ↗ wasn't asked or there are some gaps that

1:42:35 ↗ are important for us to be able to make

1:42:38 ↗ an informed decision and there's not

1:42:41 ↗ another chance to go back out you know

1:42:42 ↗ often to ask people again so that's been

1:42:47 ↗ a frustration of mine over the years

1:42:49 ↗ when what kind of like surveys go out

1:42:50 ↗ and we don't like well I would have it

1:42:53 ↗ would have been nice to have this is an

1:42:54 ↗ option or ask this or you know yeah no

1:42:59 ↗ it's a great question and I'm just I'm

1:43:00 ↗ thinking out loud here we're working

1:43:03 ↗ with the communications team right now

1:43:04 ↗ on on framing that survey up perhaps we

1:43:11 ↗ can send a draft of that out to you to

1:43:14 ↗ look at electronically and get some

1:43:18 ↗ thoughts and feedback it would be nice

1:43:21 ↗ to have the survey out before our next

1:43:24 ↗ part board meeting yes I guess

1:43:27 ↗ presenting that as an option my other

1:43:35 ↗ other guy expressed earlier I'm really

1:43:37 ↗ I'm I'm very disappointed and concerned

1:43:39 ↗ that one option at Veterans Memorial did

1:43:41 ↗ not was not to retain some aspect of

1:43:44 ↗ recreation like active recreation we

1:43:47 ↗ have very very few active recreation

1:43:51 ↗ like like places that we can do that in

1:43:53 ↗ our city there's deed restrictions and a

1:43:55 ↗ lot of our properties we have confluence

1:43:57 ↗ park that is just you know like I don't

1:44:00 ↗ know how far that is just a very short

1:44:02 ↗ walk away that has the meadows and how

1:44:04 ↗ you know has it has a feel of some of

1:44:07 ↗ these options and we can't do we can't

1:44:09 ↗ have soccer there we can't put a

1:44:11 ↗ baseball field there you know so I get

1:44:14 ↗ it that we're we're trying to modernize

1:44:16 ↗ the park and it's not probably as well

1:44:20 ↗ utilized as it could be

1:44:23 ↗ but you know like Issaquah Little League

1:44:25 ↗ has 800 kids that they serve and if you

1:44:27 ↗ had that as a Little League field there

1:44:28 ↗ would be games there every night and

1:44:30 ↗ this in the spring and summer you know

1:44:33 ↗ like you would have young families there

1:44:35 ↗ they would get to know that Park they

1:44:37 ↗ would love it

1:44:38 ↗ it's a great place to watch baseball

1:44:40 ↗ you're you go there and you'd have

1:44:41 ↗ dinner you know you you go you're

1:44:44 ↗ visiting you know all this type of

1:44:46 ↗ commercial establishments afterwards it

1:44:49 ↗ would be a different way that Park has

1:44:51 ↗ been used in the past but you pair that

1:44:54 ↗ with a splash park pad and know some

1:44:56 ↗ other things that might be a really cool

1:44:59 ↗ fun family you know oriented park and I

1:45:03 ↗ think some of the ideas of those

1:45:04 ↗ concepts for inventions of Memorial

1:45:06 ↗ where yes we do want to honor field and

1:45:10 ↗ community field I think what those could

1:45:13 ↗ be whether they want to be formalized

1:45:17 ↗ athletic or whether they want to be

1:45:19 ↗ general drop-in is still well it's not

1:45:25 ↗ gonna be up for discussion when you

1:45:26 ↗ don't give it as an option it won't

1:45:28 ↗ elicit like in some respects what we

1:45:30 ↗ have on this survey will will shape you

1:45:33 ↗ know what that is going to be and so if

1:45:37 ↗ you don't have it as an option you're

1:45:39 ↗ not going to give anybody you know like

1:45:42 ↗ most people haven't use that field isn't

1:45:44 ↗ it most new people to is a call haven't

1:45:47 ↗ use that field with all time you like

1:45:48 ↗ people who have lived here a long time

1:45:50 ↗ like Brian probably played football on

1:45:52 ↗ that field or you know you know so it's

1:45:55 ↗ meaning it's meaningful for a lot of

1:45:57 ↗ people you know in the community which

1:45:59 ↗ is also in a good voice to the other

1:46:01 ↗ side and some of the community outreach

1:46:03 ↗ in the comments we've received which

1:46:05 ↗ youth Park Board have also received is

1:46:07 ↗ that it's underutilized it's not

1:46:10 ↗ utilized enough in and it's somewhat

1:46:14 ↗ wasted space so we're trying to balance

1:46:16 ↗ you know what is perceived as wasted

1:46:19 ↗ space with still providing opportunities

1:46:21 ↗ for

1:46:22 ↗ diversification okay I just want to say

1:46:25 ↗ like I just really I feel like the

1:46:29 ↗ opportunities for active fields is very

1:46:32 ↗ very small in Issaquah and so to take

1:46:35 ↗ have between these two these two parks

1:46:38 ↗ to eliminate a third of our baseball

1:46:41 ↗ fields I think is a detriment to that to

1:46:44 ↗ that community and you know so I have

1:46:46 ↗ kids that play baseball they've played

1:46:47 ↗ football

1:46:48 ↗ they played soccer basketball and swam

1:46:50 ↗ so like I've been to all of those

1:46:51 ↗ communities community facilities

1:46:53 ↗ I don't favor baseball over any of those

1:46:55 ↗ but I do know that the it's limited you

1:46:58 ↗ know and none of those baseball fields

1:47:00 ↗ operate up to their fullest they don't

1:47:02 ↗ they don't

1:47:03 ↗ none of them are optimally kind of like

1:47:07 ↗ it you know like they're not they're not

1:47:09 ↗ great right now right so they could all

1:47:12 ↗ be used and we probably don't need as

1:47:14 ↗ many if we do them right but I bet if

1:47:17 ↗ you had a Little League field they're a

1:47:18 ↗ size field you would have it gonna be

1:47:20 ↗ used a lot there's a lot of little big

1:47:23 ↗ teams in the area no I think that's very

1:47:26 ↗ good feedback and one of those fields we

1:47:30 ↗ show as what it would look like to be a

1:47:34 ↗ little bit more formalized yeah and I

1:47:37 ↗ would suggest for something like that

1:47:38 ↗ what you would what I would put in would

1:47:41 ↗ be a turf infield and just grass like

1:47:43 ↗ everything else being grass and you

1:47:44 ↗ could if you do turf up in a field you

1:47:47 ↗ can use it all the time

1:47:48 ↗ that's what dog fields are and it can be

1:47:51 ↗ grasped I mean you feel like you know it

1:47:54 ↗ does now it can be used for salmon days

1:47:56 ↗ and all sorts of community activities

1:47:58 ↗ and you could bring in temporary fences

1:48:00 ↗ a little air age the temporary fences

1:48:04 ↗ don't have to be super Hardy fencing

1:48:07 ↗ flexibility would be cute okay a lot

1:48:09 ↗ easier on a Little League field than a

1:48:11 ↗ older kid field so has there been any

1:48:14 ↗ inventory created for baseball fields in

1:48:20 ↗ also the analysis to establish what the

1:48:22 ↗ current and future needs are going to be

1:48:24 ↗ we've been in process of that and that

1:48:27 ↗ would continue to be in process as we go

1:48:30 ↗ through this work and get to this

1:48:33 ↗ important next phase of work in terms of

1:48:37 ↗ how we begin making decisions on these

1:48:41 ↗ yes that will be that will be

1:48:43 ↗ information that's going to be key in

1:48:45 ↗ that in the next phases of this work at

1:48:49 ↗ what point will that information be

1:48:51 ↗ disseminated to the communities of the

1:48:53 ↗ community can make some decisions on on

1:49:00 ↗ reducing fields I mean like Danielle

1:49:03 ↗ points out we're reducing three fields

1:49:06 ↗ out of six seems like the community

1:49:13 ↗ needs to have that information before

1:49:15 ↗ they can kind of weigh in on what

1:49:17 ↗ concepts they might like to see for some

1:49:20 ↗ of these parts you know because you know

1:49:24 ↗ they might say yeah we can do away with

1:49:27 ↗ all these fields thinking that they want

1:49:30 ↗ some of these other you know activities

1:49:32 ↗ but they also might not know how much

1:49:35 ↗ use has actually been you know in these

1:49:38 ↗ fields to even make that kind of a

1:49:40 ↗ comment so I don't know it'd be nice for

1:49:42 ↗ the community as well as me all of us to

1:49:45 ↗ kind of know what before we start making

1:49:50 ↗ recommendations to repair analysis for

1:49:56 ↗ that yeah I don't think we're at a point

1:49:59 ↗ of making recommendations for reduced

1:50:01 ↗ fields I think we're at a point of as we

1:50:04 ↗ look at these parks and look at I think

1:50:07 ↗ the competing interest and pressures

1:50:11 ↗ yeah we have a history of 6m fields on

1:50:15 ↗ these park spaces those six in fields

1:50:19 ↗ are very rarely if ever programmed at

1:50:22 ↗ the same time right so they are very

1:50:25 ↗ much underutilized something that came

1:50:27 ↗ up in our conversation

1:50:28 ↗ the baseball groups and has come up in

1:50:30 ↗ our conversations with the park

1:50:32 ↗ strategic plan is we also have a couple

1:50:35 ↗ of the other fields of those nine we

1:50:37 ↗ have two baseball fields at Central Park

1:50:39 ↗ that are extremely underutilized and

1:50:43 ↗ under scheduled and so part of as being

1:50:47 ↗ move into this next phase and really

1:50:49 ↗ start looking at that data and looking

1:50:52 ↗ at decisions we're making part by Park

1:50:55 ↗ keeping the whole system in mind part of

1:50:59 ↗ the implementation strategy of these

1:51:02 ↗ parks may be you know what we need to is

1:51:06 ↗ recommended investments into those two

1:51:08 ↗ fields at Central Park so that they can

1:51:10 ↗ take on a whole new capacity that

1:51:13 ↗ they've never really taken on and so you

1:51:17 ↗ know this survey again is not intended

1:51:19 ↗ at this point to try and force an answer

1:51:23 ↗ or force a reduction it's trying to

1:51:26 ↗ introduce multiple pressures that exist

1:51:33 ↗ within our park system and how do we

1:51:37 ↗ begin to at least gather feedback and

1:51:42 ↗ help us understand and address these so

1:51:48 ↗ it's one of the that we're going

1:51:49 ↗ site-specific and beginning to look at

1:51:51 ↗ these I you know I think it's one of the

1:51:53 ↗ values in introducing these all

1:51:56 ↗ collectively because there really is

1:51:58 ↗ going to be some push and pull as we

1:52:02 ↗ begin making decisions on certain parks

1:52:05 ↗ boy that makes sense if we also do this

1:52:08 ↗ other work or do this other work ahead

1:52:10 ↗ of time so I wish I wish it was a

1:52:15 ↗ beautifully elegant science that could

1:52:20 ↗ be all sort of planned out master

1:52:24 ↗ planning this all from scratch but but

1:52:26 ↗ we're not in a way this is this this

1:52:30 ↗ idea of modernizing our system is is

1:52:34 ↗ sort of retrofitting

1:52:39 ↗ retrofitting as well

1:52:41 ↗ as far as the survey I agree with

1:52:44 ↗ Danielle and then it would be nice for

1:52:46 ↗ us to have some input about what that

1:52:49 ↗ survey it looks like to prevent gaps

1:52:51 ↗ because I totally that when these

1:52:54 ↗ surveys are created it can send you down

1:52:57 ↗ a path that's really hard to pull away

1:53:00 ↗ from later on and so it's good to

1:53:03 ↗ identify those gaps now before those

1:53:05 ↗ kind of surveys go out unless we were

1:53:07 ↗ planning on having a multitude of

1:53:09 ↗ surveys but I don't see that happening

1:53:11 ↗ it seems like this survey is somewhat

1:53:13 ↗ going to kind of dictate in some

1:53:16 ↗ respects what the ultimate plan

1:53:18 ↗ recommendations are going to be no no no

1:53:21 ↗ this is really we need to remember a

1:53:24 ↗ conceptual design is your first step in

1:53:27 ↗ the design process you do site analysis

1:53:30 ↗ you understand the functions you know

1:53:32 ↗ where the wind and the sign of the

1:53:34 ↗ parking and utilities it's all

1:53:35 ↗ background information and right now

1:53:37 ↗ we're really looking at spatial layout

1:53:40 ↗ and adjacencies based on community

1:53:43 ↗ feedback received to date granted we're

1:53:47 ↗ doing all three surveys these are three

1:53:49 ↗ large surveys one for each park so

1:53:52 ↗ knowing some of the community may be

1:53:53 ↗ interested into pits Valley Park some

1:53:56 ↗ may be super interested in the creek

1:53:58 ↗ corridor and some may be super

1:54:00 ↗ interested in both veterans and Tibbets

1:54:02 ↗ right or just veterans so we're giving

1:54:04 ↗ people the option to be able to pick

1:54:06 ↗ whichever survey they want now this

1:54:08 ↗ feedback well then these are just

1:54:11 ↗ concepts and as I stated earlier the

1:54:13 ↗ final preferred design may take several

1:54:18 ↗ iterations and several steps along the

1:54:21 ↗ way which is why after this initial

1:54:24 ↗ conceptual survey they'll start breaking

1:54:26 ↗ off into their own plans you know I see

1:54:29 ↗ Tibbits Valley likely needing a couple

1:54:32 ↗ iterations of a preferred concept and

1:54:35 ↗ maybe an additional survey in there

1:54:37 ↗ before a final design is created again

1:54:41 ↗ with a final survey did we get it right

1:54:43 ↗ so this is just a very cursory step

1:54:48 ↗ the process to really dream big

1:54:51 ↗ throughout ideas some of the things

1:54:54 ↗ we've heard from the community we're are

1:54:56 ↗ certainly reflected in these concepts

1:54:58 ↗ and is it really resonating with all of

1:55:01 ↗ the community or just a particular you

1:55:03 ↗ know individual so we're gonna have to

1:55:06 ↗ see how that all plays out within these

1:55:09 ↗ concepts and and balance the multiple

1:55:12 ↗ needs and diverse thoughts through that

1:55:15 ↗ and so like when we come up with say on

1:55:18 ↗ the creeks corner where we come up with

1:55:21 ↗ a squawk Valley reach preferred design

1:55:24 ↗ it may go through two or three

1:55:26 ↗ iterations before it hits a final design

1:55:28 ↗ process there could be you know great

1:55:31 ↗ corridor

1:55:32 ↗ I think we'll also have multiple

1:55:34 ↗ opportunities for along the way before

1:55:41 ↗ we get into that so please don't feel

1:55:43 ↗ like this is a we're designing it today

1:55:46 ↗ this is just introduction I know we're

1:55:48 ↗ running out of time but I just wouldn't

1:55:49 ↗ say like I really really wish we had

1:55:52 ↗ come up with had done an analysis of how

1:55:57 ↗ many baseball fields we have what the

1:56:00 ↗ need is engaged with the local baseball

1:56:03 ↗ community to kind of have them input

1:56:06 ↗ what you know what the gaps are in our

1:56:08 ↗ current system what the number of fields

1:56:10 ↗ and size of fields are available you

1:56:12 ↗ know like that we kind of need at least

1:56:14 ↗ have maintained the status quo and

1:56:15 ↗ programming not even talking about you

1:56:17 ↗ know growing up growing and then in

1:56:20 ↗ incorporate those in these designs so

1:56:23 ↗ the city knows the bus with that

1:56:26 ↗ community what feels what size fields

1:56:29 ↗ need to be they're not necessarily the

1:56:32 ↗ layouts but which ones so if I'm a

1:56:34 ↗ community member and my kid doesn't play

1:56:36 ↗ baseball I don't really care if it's you

1:56:39 ↗ know three Little League fields in one

1:56:41 ↗ big field or what if they're just fields

1:56:42 ↗ on it on a thing I actually really care

1:56:44 ↗ about that you know and to me to do it

1:56:49 ↗ this other way and with without doing it

1:56:52 ↗ that way I just feel like we're we've

1:56:54 ↗ just made it

1:56:57 ↗ an informed decision we're making an

1:56:58 ↗ uninformed decision and we're leading

1:57:00 ↗ people to give input on you know I know

1:57:03 ↗ down a path we're going down a path that

1:57:06 ↗ might be really hard to pull back from I

1:57:08 ↗ think you could have that same survey

1:57:11 ↗ for every interest group the skate park

1:57:13 ↗ folks that skate parks packed to the max

1:57:15 ↗ and just there's little kids there with

1:57:17 ↗ like 30 year old people and it just

1:57:20 ↗ looks hazardous to me like there's

1:57:24 ↗ there's all these different interest

1:57:26 ↗ groups and you could go to the garden

1:57:27 ↗ folks and say well how many different

1:57:30 ↗ species do you need to have in the

1:57:32 ↗ garden so I'm not sure if we could

1:57:34 ↗ really get it I mean oh yeah we would

1:57:37 ↗ take years to get a good handle on yeah

1:57:39 ↗ how each special interest group would

1:57:41 ↗ really ideally see the different needs

1:57:44 ↗ playing out in the different activities

1:57:45 ↗ so I mean it would be tough it's gonna

1:57:48 ↗ be tough because the the historical use

1:57:51 ↗ it's always hard to lose something but I

1:57:54 ↗ feel like how do how do we assess how

1:57:57 ↗ much use one activity will get and will

1:58:02 ↗ get in the future and how we see things

1:58:04 ↗ kind of diversifying or we're not or

1:58:07 ↗ staying with one sort of historic use

1:58:09 ↗ it's really challenging I don't have any

1:58:12 ↗ suggestions obviously but it would be

1:58:14 ↗ great to have this information for all

1:58:16 ↗ of these activities that were that we're

1:58:18 ↗ considering sacrificing current use for

1:58:21 ↗ I think that's the trick it's like what

1:58:22 ↗ are the things that you're looking to

1:58:23 ↗ take away because a reality becomes if

1:58:26 ↗ you're trying to make this new great big

1:58:27 ↗ Park and the narrative becomes they've

1:58:30 ↗ taken away this thing and you get a

1:58:31 ↗ whole group of people who are super

1:58:33 ↗ passionate really talking about what

1:58:35 ↗ you've taken away from them like we're

1:58:36 ↗ shooting ourselves in the foot yeah yeah

1:58:38 ↗ yeah yeah just be careful they're very

1:58:41 ↗ careful so so this is a really good

1:58:45 ↗ discussion I think there would be some

1:58:47 ↗ value in us we're not trying to sneak a

1:58:53 ↗ survey by you as a port port this is

1:58:55 ↗ really good discussion I think we should

1:58:58 ↗ send out the draft of the survey and and

1:59:00 ↗ get some feedback from from

1:59:03 ↗ of you I think that we are not trying to

1:59:08 ↗ take anything away and if I can share

1:59:10 ↗ some of the feedback we heard from the

1:59:12 ↗ baseball group six representatives who

1:59:17 ↗ we met with we just gotten some of these

1:59:21 ↗ initial concepts we've we've tweaked

1:59:23 ↗ some of them since but in the

1:59:26 ↗ conversation with them and talking about

1:59:28 ↗ what is what are you historically using

1:59:31 ↗ and what are your needs I heard a

1:59:37 ↗ consensus from that group that was not a

1:59:40 ↗ sense of your taking something away

1:59:41 ↗ it was wow this would be this would be

1:59:45 ↗ an ad this this would feel like an ad

1:59:47 ↗ for baseball so with the caveat that

1:59:50 ↗ that the assumption was that the Central

1:59:53 ↗ Park Little League fields we're gonna be

1:59:55 ↗ curved and and expanded so they were

1:59:58 ↗ able to be fully so you know so like the

2:00:03 ↗ ideas OEM okay I'm not trying to debate

2:00:07 ↗ you I'm trying to I'm trying to say real

2:00:09 ↗ relative to tippets Valley Park yeah and

2:00:12 ↗ again I wish this was easy you guys I

2:00:14 ↗ wish competing pressures are easy in a

2:00:17 ↗ system it's not but to your question

2:00:20 ↗ you're right what we might be rethinking

2:00:25 ↗ at Tibbets Valley Park Daniel you're

2:00:27 ↗ absolutely right the the implementation

2:00:32 ↗ of doing something at Tibbets Valley

2:00:33 ↗ Park would need to include investments

2:00:37 ↗ at Central Park right to increase the

2:00:40 ↗ capacity of those baseball fields so at

2:00:43 ↗ the end of the day we're constrained

2:00:46 ↗ with land artistical Park system there's

2:00:49 ↗ no we are rich in many things we're

2:00:52 ↗ extremely poor in land and so how we try

2:00:55 ↗ and modernize diversify high elements at

2:01:00 ↗ our park system and do it in a way that

2:01:02 ↗ nobody feels like they're losing but

2:01:04 ↗ that groups are feeling like

2:01:05 ↗ yeah I'm I might be reduced in the

2:01:09 ↗ square footage that's been dictated for

2:01:11 ↗ this single use but Wow it's it's it's a

2:01:15 ↗ win in the end that's look at the end

2:01:19 ↗ that's that's all of our collective goal

2:01:21 ↗ so I'm really introducing that

2:01:23 ↗ year-round playability to you know which

2:01:26 ↗ a lot of these fields aren't

2:01:27 ↗ experiencing right now the server has an

2:01:35 ↗ intention the different amenities and

2:01:38 ↗ different concepts are going to be set

2:01:40 ↗ up so people can kind of almost vote on

2:01:43 ↗ them so you'll actually get percentages

2:01:45 ↗ rather than this being a free-form no

2:01:47 ↗ there's a lot of open-ended questions

2:01:49 ↗ there's a few yeah we're not trying to

2:01:51 ↗ create force choices no choices in this

2:01:54 ↗ plan and then the other aspect would be

2:01:57 ↗ and I know this was raised at the City

2:02:00 ↗ Council meeting about cost and I know

2:02:02 ↗ cost issues are not practical at this

2:02:06 ↗ level but they might be practical at

2:02:08 ↗ least along the similar lines of like we

2:02:11 ↗ did with the dog park in terms of here

2:02:13 ↗ are three concepts here's the most

2:02:15 ↗ expensive concept here's the least

2:02:18 ↗ expensive concept so at least you could

2:02:20 ↗ get the community to weigh in on how

2:02:23 ↗ much where do they want to go with you

2:02:26 ↗ know you know what I mean

2:02:28 ↗ whereas if you throw it and you don't

2:02:31 ↗ talk about that people might just yeah

2:02:33 ↗ much like the you know much like well

2:02:36 ↗ confluence bridge or whatever with I

2:02:38 ↗ think we keep raising people might be

2:02:40 ↗ gravitated to what looks the best but in

2:02:43 ↗ reality it might never happen because

2:02:46 ↗ it's too expensive and so to get the

2:02:49 ↗ community to at least are thinking about

2:02:51 ↗ different layers of cost at this early

2:02:54 ↗ stage even though it's a high level

2:02:56 ↗ stage would be it would being practical

2:02:58 ↗ I think rather than to just not talk

2:03:00 ↗ about it at all

2:03:01 ↗ I know that that was one of the concerns

2:03:03 ↗ of the Korea had I have the same I think

2:03:05 ↗ there are other people that it would be

2:03:07 ↗ nice to at least touch on that some way

2:03:09 ↗ not down to the pennies and all that but

2:03:13 ↗ I thought what was done with the dog

2:03:15 ↗ park in terms of three different options

2:03:17 ↗ was a good way you know to introduce

2:03:20 ↗ cost into the picture when people are

2:03:23 ↗ starting to make their decisions about

2:03:25 ↗ what concepts a life I mean I really

2:03:28 ↗ here we're here but at this level it's

2:03:30 ↗ also there's so many unknowns and

2:03:32 ↗ variables with each if me it's it's

2:03:35 ↗ almost not cost-effective for us to go

2:03:37 ↗ through the exercise the hearts and

2:03:39 ↗ whistles concepts incorporate ideas that

2:03:42 ↗ don't necessarily follow that same line

2:03:44 ↗ of here's the you know the Yelp here's

2:03:48 ↗ the two dollar sign concept here's the

2:03:51 ↗ three dollar sign concept and here's the

2:03:53 ↗ four dollar sign concept because there's

2:03:55 ↗ there's elements and ideas sort of

2:04:00 ↗ blended that would be hard to try and

2:04:02 ↗ associate at that level as I answered to

2:04:06 ↗ council president Andrews was hunting

2:04:11 ↗ was yes cost I think as we start to

2:04:19 ↗ develop more refined concepts or ideas

2:04:23 ↗ for a preferred concept and start to I

2:04:27 ↗ think get more specific on those

2:04:29 ↗ elements yes I think there will be a

2:04:33 ↗ time when we will want to I don't think

2:04:35 ↗ this is gonna be the last survey or

2:04:38 ↗ community outreach we have there will be

2:04:41 ↗ I think need an opportunity for some of

2:04:45 ↗ those lessons learned from some of the

2:04:47 ↗ previous work that's been done on there

2:04:49 ↗ is a right time to start to understand

2:04:51 ↗ relevant interest and investment because

2:04:55 ↗ ultimately that's what these parks are

2:04:58 ↗ as well right how interested is in the

2:05:00 ↗ community

2:05:01 ↗ interested is the community investing in

2:05:04 ↗ their system I have one more little

2:05:06 ↗ thing doesn't relate to baseball with

2:05:08 ↗ Tibbets

2:05:09 ↗ I was hoping that there would be

2:05:13 ↗ opportunity

2:05:14 ↗ some sort of vision or like alternative

2:05:16 ↗ visions for the Tibbets quick manner in

2:05:19 ↗ these these sketches a number of years

2:05:22 ↗ ago with the city went down a path that

2:05:23 ↗ it ended up pulling back from but to do

2:05:26 ↗ cover tennis court so to cover the

2:05:28 ↗ existing tennis courts and it was going

2:05:30 ↗ to be a lease relationship with a

2:05:33 ↗ private it was gonna be a private public

2:05:36 ↗ partnership and one of the reasons that

2:05:38 ↗ we pulled back from that is because we

2:05:40 ↗ knew that we're going to be doing a

2:05:41 ↗ master plan and you know the relative

2:05:42 ↗ near future and we wanted to flexibility

2:05:45 ↗ to be able to reinvasion that land I

2:05:47 ↗ look at the manor as a location that's

2:05:51 ↗ you know could be conducive to something

2:05:54 ↗ like that it's it's not in the sight

2:05:58 ↗ lines of sort of the you know the valley

2:06:00 ↗ it's off the you know off of 900 you can

2:06:05 ↗ still connect to the park so I I was

2:06:07 ↗ hoping that there would be some options

2:06:08 ↗ something like that like so you know

2:06:10 ↗ like so like that covered covered tennis

2:06:12 ↗ facility or indoor you know like another

2:06:14 ↗ kind of rec center that could have like

2:06:17 ↗ indoor activities like basketball

2:06:21 ↗ you know III don't know like but it's

2:06:24 ↗ something other than you know retaining

2:06:26 ↗ the manor there and I was hoping that if

2:06:28 ↗ it had something it's like some of those

2:06:30 ↗ options and it might get people thinking

2:06:31 ↗ about like well what else might be able

2:06:33 ↗ to go in there but by just keeping in

2:06:37 ↗ all of those three sketches it's just as

2:06:39 ↗ like you know manor house there are

2:06:41 ↗ there is a question in the survey that

2:06:43 ↗ talks about some different functions to

2:06:46 ↗ kind of help prompt some ideas for that

2:06:50 ↗ space for that space I would love to see

2:06:53 ↗ some options that that just you know

2:06:55 ↗ they say you know we're we're making a

2:06:57 ↗ decision we're not we're going to we're

2:06:59 ↗ gonna you know this is a recreational

2:07:01 ↗ part we're gonna have active indoor

2:07:04 ↗ recreation here we can move our do we

2:07:07 ↗ need a wedding facility do we need

2:07:10 ↗ medium maybe we can have meeting space

2:07:12 ↗ somewhere

2:07:13 ↗ you know in downtown as a client some of

2:07:15 ↗ them something that we own know great

2:07:18 ↗ great point and and I think you know

2:07:22 ↗ with I think we'll find this is one of

2:07:25 ↗ those hard things but the the true Creek

2:07:29 ↗ setback um that most of that Manor is

2:07:33 ↗ already in to to put a new to put a new

2:07:37 ↗ facility or new amenity on that side I

2:07:40 ↗ think we're gonna find that between SR

2:07:42 ↗ 900 and the creek it's a pretty it's a

2:07:46 ↗ pretty constrained area but I think your

2:07:50 ↗ question is a is a great one and that I

2:07:52 ↗ think the survey is trying not to this

2:07:55 ↗ is to your point to Brad I don't think

2:07:59 ↗ we're at the point of trying to create a

2:08:00 ↗ bunch of forced choices with the survey

2:08:02 ↗ I think we're still wanting more

2:08:07 ↗ qualitative feedback to help continue to

2:08:12 ↗ spur ideas opportunities for that area

2:08:17 ↗ but it's pretty clear and counsel is

2:08:19 ↗ shared as much as well but we we have a

2:08:22 ↗ manner that's aging that's fatiguing

2:08:25 ↗ that it's it's time to rethink not only

2:08:28 ↗ its face as rental but also how might

2:08:32 ↗ that portion of the park you couldn't

2:08:37 ↗ use those another facility could you do

2:08:39 ↗ something up so recreation wise like a

2:08:41 ↗ climbing wall or like something like is

2:08:43 ↗ theirs is there a small space that

2:08:45 ↗ working that feeds into the creek with

2:08:50 ↗ the thing that was an opportunity that

2:08:51 ↗ was missed and just including something

2:08:54 ↗ that you could maybe would like people's

2:08:56 ↗ interest and get them thinking and get

2:08:58 ↗ some feedback about what it is don't

2:09:00 ↗ they'd like to see their so one last

2:09:03 ↗ thing I probably wanted to put in

2:09:04 ↗ relating to the Creek corridor is there

2:09:06 ↗ isn't anything in any of these reaches

2:09:08 ↗ regarding the mountain the sound

2:09:09 ↗ Greenway corridor is that intentional

2:09:13 ↗ or do you see any value and including

2:09:17 ↗ that I know it's somewhat uncertain in

2:09:20 ↗ terms of where it might be but it was

2:09:23 ↗ kind of a significant component of the

2:09:25 ↗ strategic plan to have the east-west and

2:09:28 ↗ north-south corridor with kind of a hub

2:09:31 ↗ of the intersection and it seems like

2:09:34 ↗ you know that needs to be included

2:09:36 ↗ somewhere along the line in one of those

2:09:38 ↗ reaches so people can you know be aware

2:09:43 ↗ of it it's a compass an important

2:09:45 ↗ component and yet it's kind of missing

2:09:48 ↗ in the creek corridor concepts I think

2:09:51 ↗ it remains very much a key a key hub and

2:09:54 ↗ a key concept I think we're I think that

2:09:58 ↗ Creek concept plan is gonna you know

2:10:01 ↗ when we have two projects that are

2:10:03 ↗ site-specific that is a abour or more

2:10:09 ↗ multi parcel plan not knowing exactly

2:10:15 ↗ where that mounts to sound Greenway

2:10:17 ↗ Trail is going to land or might there

2:10:20 ↗ might be multiple crossings right I

2:10:22 ↗ think reinforcing that the concept that

2:10:26 ↗ where that crossing is that crossing

2:10:28 ↗ becomes or crossings plural becomes a

2:10:31 ↗ hub right and so I say that all to say

2:10:36 ↗ that that idea has not been lost and

2:10:38 ↗ those connections are the key priority

2:10:42 ↗ how to visually identify that on a map

2:10:45 ↗ might feel forced right now but perhaps

2:10:50 ↗ in the survey I know we talked about

2:10:52 ↗ trail connections and other pieces that

2:10:54 ↗ again I think as you see that draft

2:10:56 ↗ survey

2:10:57 ↗ like we'd be drawing that out the drop

2:10:59 ↗ survey was really more focused on just

2:11:03 ↗ those four themes as far as the spine

2:11:06 ↗ the loops the existing park spaces and

2:11:09 ↗ we have opportunity for people to list

2:11:12 ↗ other destinations now once we get a

2:11:14 ↗ little more refinement on some of that I

2:11:16 ↗ can see then next phase of design how

2:11:20 ↗ does that connect into other areas

2:11:22 ↗ within the city and other routes I think

2:11:24 ↗ it's likely something that will come up

2:11:26 ↗ in the next phase just at this real

2:11:29 ↗ cursory stage I think it's a little we

2:11:31 ↗ can also throw up too much information

2:11:33 ↗ for people and the creek corridor is a

2:11:35 ↗ lot for people to take in because it's

2:11:38 ↗ so much land in so much space and so we

2:11:41 ↗ really just focused on those four pieces

2:11:44 ↗ the spine the habitat your anchors or

2:11:46 ↗ existing Park spaces and we have an

2:11:49 ↗ opportunity for other connections and

2:11:51 ↗ there and the habitats as the priorities

2:11:56 ↗ just as long as that hub is identified

2:12:00 ↗ before any Creek or master plan is roll

2:12:06 ↗ iterations of this yet several

2:12:08 ↗ opportunities for input

2:12:10 ↗ I think there's your heat railings that

2:12:11 ↗ will be you know East Lake Sammamish

2:12:13 ↗ trail is to go Preston trail well so

2:12:15 ↗ seven Greenway Trail you know there's

2:12:17 ↗ there's so many when you think of again

2:12:20 ↗ the opportunity this city has to define

2:12:22 ↗ this north-south anchor to its system in

2:12:26 ↗ all the regional trails that are gonna

2:12:29 ↗ link to that you know in some ways those

2:12:31 ↗ are all those they're all gonna be okay

2:12:39 ↗ well we knocked that one out of the park

2:12:42 ↗ here didn't we need to have good

2:12:45 ↗ discussion about it cuz I know you're n

2:12:47 ↗ s kind of needing to move on with your

2:12:50 ↗ adventure and it's good to have some

2:12:53 ↗ more feedback so that Rob's that

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2:13:06 ↗ you gonna do that next month okay we

2:13:11 ↗ don't have to rush through I know you

2:13:13 ↗ got a lot of good stuff in there we're

2:13:15 ↗ gonna do that next month we've got a

2:13:17 ↗ couple of other updates that I'll hold

2:13:18 ↗ on until next month I wouldn't if you

2:13:21 ↗ don't mind just two minutes of personal

2:13:23 ↗ privilege you may or may not know my dad

2:13:27 ↗ passed away just a couple weeks ago and

2:13:31 ↗ I think that always sets perspective and

2:13:33 ↗ context for for you right he's battled

2:13:37 ↗ Parkinson's for 30 plus years amazing

2:13:40 ↗ man gave me a passion for serving

2:13:44 ↗ community and just I just think moments

2:13:48 ↗ like this it's it's it reaffirms my sort

2:13:53 ↗ of the path that I have been on and

2:13:57 ↗ what's led to my choosing this crazy

2:14:01 ↗ career that leads to really fun dynamic

2:14:04 ↗ conversations like this and never easy

2:14:06 ↗ tasks of helping community build amazing

2:14:10 ↗ parks and recreation systems wait till

2:14:31 ↗ next time and the only thing I wanted to

2:14:35 ↗ add or reiterate is that make sure to

2:14:39 ↗ put in board applications by the end of

2:14:43 ↗ February

2:14:45 ↗ and April her trickier terms up at the

2:14:49 ↗ end of April April April so we'd love to

2:14:54 ↗ have you continue on and if so please

2:14:57 ↗ get your a pin and that applies both to

2:15:00 ↗ Joe and Carl as well if you're watching

2:15:03 ↗ from that's so if there are any other

2:15:14 ↗ send an email out to everyone back in

2:15:18 ↗ November we had a presentation on green

2:15:21 ↗ Issaquah we've developed this partners

2:15:23 ↗ list and I was gonna share that with you

2:15:26 ↗ guys if you had any contacts with some

2:15:30 ↗ good partners and also maybe some

2:15:33 ↗ corporate sponsors if there's any

2:15:35 ↗ connections with local businesses so

2:15:38 ↗ I'll be sending that out in the next day

2:15:39 ↗ or so

2:15:42 ↗ anything else

2:15:44 ↗ just a couple takeaways from our

2:15:47 ↗ discussion again thank you what I heard

2:15:50 ↗ was perhaps a couple of lots of

2:15:52 ↗ conversations with the consultants about

2:15:54 ↗ a couple of tweaks to concepts and then

2:15:57 ↗ also look for a copy of that survey

2:16:01 ↗ going out to you electronically to take

2:16:03 ↗ a look at it before we thank you when

2:16:11 ↗ the survey goes out how would we provide

2:16:13 ↗ feedback than just email response or

2:16:16 ↗ something yes it'll be an online survey

2:16:18 ↗ the city has a pretty robust tool

2:16:20 ↗ Democracies so when we send that out

2:16:23 ↗ we're gonna part of our work with the

2:16:24 ↗ communications team is it'll be a pretty

2:16:26 ↗ big social media blast and other things

2:16:30 ↗ that once you get this link whatever

2:16:32 ↗ assistance you can give to not only

2:16:34 ↗ complete it but broadcast it out to your

2:16:39 ↗ associated well like the interest groups

2:16:41 ↗ sorry I think she was talking about the

2:16:43 ↗ survey we're sending for a feedback

2:16:44 ↗ survey as well so don't send that one

2:16:48 ↗ out

2:16:55 ↗ yes give us feedback on the draft survey

2:16:57 ↗ just to email that back to us okay and I

2:17:00 ↗ would imagine so we're looking for like

2:17:02 ↗ yeah I would think like gaps or like

2:17:05 ↗ follow-up questions or you know it's

2:17:06 ↗ sort of like something where like you

2:17:09 ↗ know it would have been nice to know

2:17:10 ↗ would have been nice to know that yeah

2:17:12 ↗ and in advance of doing that I might

2:17:16 ↗ recommend that you all go back and take

2:17:18 ↗ a look at the survey comments received

2:17:19 ↗ to date to help inform you about some of

2:17:22 ↗ the concepts why they look the way they

2:17:23 ↗ do might be helpful to help good

2:17:47 ↗ you

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