Transportation Advisory Board · Wednesday, October 14, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Commission Membership

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Transportation Advisory Board About Created in 2017, this board — yet to be Staff Liaison initiated — will provide additional expertise and Stephen Padua, advice on the City’s transportation system and Senior Transportation Manager goals. Email Membership Regular Members The Transportation Advisory Board will be 2020 – Cynthia Krass comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2020 – Vacant three alternates. Initial terms will be staggered. 2021 – Tom McDonald All members are appointed by the Mayor and 2021 – Nina Milligan subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms 2021 – Kobi Sunday* expire April 30 of the year listed. For more 2022 – Sujata Goel information, see IMC 2.92. 2022 – Vacant 2023 – Vacant 2023 – Marisol Visser

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of August 6, 2020

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 08-06-20 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000]

Minutes of September 1, 2020

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APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 09-01-20 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] 09-01-20 Transportation Advisory Page [0000] Board Minutes CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting September 1, 2020 MINUTES

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Mobility Master Plan Update

Discussion · 40 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.11–235

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Page 11 of 259 AGENDA ITEMS a)

Complete Streets Policy Update

Discussion · 30 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.237–255

Topics: Transportation

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AGENDA ITEMS b) DRAFT Complete Streets Policy Draft – February 2020 (Keep in IMC 12.10 and reference in MMP)

Transportation Advisory Board 2020 and 2021 Schedule, (D)

20 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.257–259

Topics: Transportation

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AGENDA ITEMS c) 2020 TAB Schedule (tentative) (updated 10/7/20)

5. REPORTS

Staff Report

Chair Report

Youth Report

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

The next meeting is scheduled for Nov. 23

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0:01 ↗ well hello everyone

0:03 ↗ good evening this is the transportation

0:05 ↗ advisory board special meeting

0:07 ↗ of october 14th 2020 and

0:10 ↗ i am nayana milligan the chair of

0:13 ↗ the board i will

0:16 ↗ um call a role so we can tell you who's

0:20 ↗ here and now

0:21 ↗ and we'll get into our agenda um

0:25 ↗ say your name and you can say here

0:28 ↗ cynthia

0:29 ↗ is cynthia crass here to go

0:32 ↗ sujata goyal here um mcdonald's

0:37 ↗ um

0:41 ↗ excellent and our staff member stephen

0:43 ↗ padua and

0:44 ↗ john mortensen and we have one more

0:47 ↗ member we're expecting tonight

0:49 ↗ uh and marisol uh when she gets here

0:52 ↗ we'll um

0:52 ↗ we'll clue you that she's here we're

0:54 ↗ going to change just one thing on our

0:56 ↗ agenda

0:59 ↗ and that is to move the approval of the

1:02 ↗ minutes

1:03 ↗ to the end of the meeting right before

1:05 ↗ the reports

1:06 ↗ um so that we can have everybody here to

1:08 ↗ do that otherwise i'm going to check

1:10 ↗ with the staff

1:11 ↗ and see if there are any public comments

1:13 ↗ this evening

1:18 ↗ no one contacted us and no one else is

1:20 ↗ online

1:21 ↗ okay thank you and then um

1:26 ↗ stephen i think then we can go to our

1:28 ↗ first agenda item the mobility master

1:30 ↗ plan update is that correct

1:34 ↗ yes just give me one minute to pull up

1:36 ↗ my presentation

1:38 ↗ definitely thank you very much

1:54 ↗ i apologize it closed on me when i was

1:56 ↗ turning everything on

2:20 ↗ okay

2:32 ↗ all right so i'm gonna share my screen

2:42 ↗ all right

2:46 ↗ all right good evening everyone um the

2:48 ↗ purpose of tonight

2:50 ↗ can you see actually the presentation

2:51 ↗ right okay

2:53 ↗ um the purpose of today's meeting is

2:56 ↗ for me to run through what's changed for

2:59 ↗ the final draft

3:00 ↗ mobility master plan and i'm gonna go

3:03 ↗ into the next steps for finalization and

3:05 ↗ implementation

3:08 ↗ can i ask um tom could you mute your

3:11 ↗ audio please sorry i thought i have i

3:16 ↗ will

3:20 ↗ so what's changed um since the board

3:24 ↗ last saw the

3:25 ↗ master plan is that it really was

3:29 ↗ completely restructured

3:31 ↗ in the sense that we've moved a lot of

3:32 ↗ items around

3:34 ↗ and added some language for clarity on a

3:37 ↗ few items

3:38 ↗ but the meat of the plan particularly

3:40 ↗ the guiding principles

3:42 ↗ and the policies have remained unchanged

3:46 ↗ um the only change that we did make or

3:48 ↗ to the policies where we added

3:50 ↗ uh an additional policy to the bicycle

3:54 ↗ goal area um to put in a little

3:57 ↗ more um support for electric bike

4:01 ↗ infrastructure and the build out of kind

4:04 ↗ of the

4:04 ↗ the system um and that was a suggestion

4:07 ↗ that came from the paul

4:08 ↗ uh planning policy commission the rest

4:10 ↗ of the changes came from suggestions

4:12 ↗ from the board and the city council

4:14 ↗ to improve the readability but also the

4:16 ↗ flow of the plan

4:18 ↗ to help people understand what we're

4:20 ↗ actually trying to achieve

4:22 ↗ we added additional language around

4:23 ↗ safety and coordination with schools

4:25 ↗ we incorporated additional language

4:28 ↗ throughout the plan that iterate

4:29 ↗ um iterated the need for regular updates

4:32 ↗ um following the pandemic particularly

4:35 ↗ around transportation

4:36 ↗ funding but also around how we're going

4:38 ↗ to be implementing

4:40 ↗ prioritized projects

4:45 ↗ for implementation of the plan we have

4:48 ↗ our plates

4:49 ↗ actually fairly full next year for the

4:51 ↗ first half

4:52 ↗ we'll be working through the details of

4:54 ↗ the transportation improvement program

4:56 ↗ as part of the capital improvement plan

4:57 ↗ development

4:59 ↗ we'll start this process in january and

5:01 ↗ the conversations will likely last until

5:03 ↗ about may or june

5:04 ↗ and when when we believe there's enough

5:06 ↗ room on the agenda we'll

5:08 ↗ we'll finalize the complete streets

5:09 ↗ policy update which we'll discuss

5:11 ↗ tonight as part of our agenda

5:13 ↗ and and then we'll discuss updates to

5:16 ↗ the street standards

5:17 ↗ for the second half of the year we'll

5:19 ↗ turn our focus to updating the traffic

5:21 ↗ calming policy

5:22 ↗ and process uh discuss our transit

5:25 ↗ system

5:25 ↗ and have another round of street

5:27 ↗ standard updates this is something that

5:29 ↗ um and the reason why we're going to be

5:31 ↗ seeing the street standards quite a bit

5:32 ↗ is they actually haven't been updated in

5:34 ↗ about 10 years now so

5:36 ↗ they're in need of

5:40 ↗ some edits by the end of the year we'll

5:43 ↗ include regular process review for the

5:45 ↗ mobility master plan

5:46 ↗ uh to determine if any updates are

5:48 ↗ needed to help with implementation for

5:50 ↗ the following year

5:52 ↗ before i jump into describing what the

5:54 ↗ cip process

5:56 ↗ will look like are there any questions

5:57 ↗ thus far

6:01 ↗ okay

6:05 ↗ so to help describe

6:08 ↗ what we'll be doing next year i'ma first

6:10 ↗ start with what the cip process looks

6:12 ↗ like in 2019

6:14 ↗ we figured this would be useful for

6:17 ↗ several of you since you've never

6:18 ↗ actually done this before

6:20 ↗ now looking at the left side of the

6:22 ↗ screen this typically starts by carrying

6:23 ↗ out over

6:24 ↗ the previous year's translation

6:25 ↗ improvement plan this typically includes

6:28 ↗ the committed projects that have already

6:29 ↗ started

6:30 ↗ and include significant city or external

6:32 ↗ investments

6:34 ↗ other this also includes other new term

6:36 ↗ projects that haven't started yet but

6:38 ↗ are projected to start in the next

6:40 ↗ six year planning time frame for the

6:42 ↗ plan or for the program

6:43 ↗ and it also includes future projects

6:45 ↗ that have been identified as a

6:48 ↗ significant component of a future

6:50 ↗ transportation system

6:51 ↗ but ultimately it remains unfunded in

6:54 ↗ that six year time frame

6:55 ↗ but it remains on that list now moving

6:58 ↗ to the right

6:59 ↗ of the slides the staff then

7:02 ↗ conducts an evaluation which typically

7:04 ↗ includes updates to specific project

7:07 ↗ budgets

7:08 ↗ in case grant funding or some of the

7:10 ↗ funding sources changes

7:12 ↗ on addition of new funding sources for

7:14 ↗ any of the new projects

7:16 ↗ balancing your project schedules with

7:18 ↗ staff capacity

7:19 ↗ with funding opportunities as well and

7:21 ↗ then any feedback from city council that

7:24 ↗ may

7:25 ↗ require any adjustments to what's in the

7:27 ↗ tip

7:29 ↗ now moving to the right side following

7:32 ↗ the evaluation process a proposal will

7:34 ↗ be made to city council and then

7:36 ↗ following a few updates the cap is

7:38 ↗ eventually adopted and used for the

7:40 ↗ subsequent city budget process this is

7:44 ↗ important to distinguish between two so

7:46 ↗ the tap is a planning document

7:49 ↗ even though we are going into the

7:50 ↗ financial components of all

7:52 ↗ of our projects we're moving forward on

7:54 ↗ it's used for the actual city budget

7:56 ↗ it's not the actual city budget

7:58 ↗ and this process typically starts in

8:01 ↗ march or april and

8:02 ↗ ends around june that's typically what a

8:05 ↗ cip process looks like for us

8:07 ↗ now what we'll look at next year is that

8:11 ↗ we'll be starting the discussions

8:13 ↗ actually in january so that we can

8:15 ↗ include the board

8:16 ↗ as part of the development process two

8:19 ↗ things will be different in the process

8:20 ↗ next year compared to what we did in

8:22 ↗ 2019

8:24 ↗ instead of taking all the previous years

8:26 ↗ tip

8:27 ↗ we're only taking the committed projects

8:29 ↗ that have investments

8:31 ↗ that we need to stay committed to we'll

8:33 ↗ remove

8:34 ↗ the near-term projects that haven't

8:35 ↗ started yet and then we'll also remove

8:37 ↗ the future

8:38 ↗ unfunded projects when we get to the

8:41 ↗ staff evaluations we'll now add

8:43 ↗ the mobility master plan priority

8:45 ↗ prioritize project list

8:47 ↗ at the front of the evaluations it's

8:49 ↗ important to note

8:51 ↗ that what's in the master plan project

8:53 ↗ list is also what's in the tap

8:55 ↗ but it's now actually a prioritized

8:57 ↗ project list in accordance to

8:59 ↗ how well each of the projects address

9:02 ↗ are the guiding principles that are in

9:03 ↗ the master plan

9:04 ↗ and this will help staff justify the

9:06 ↗ projects

9:08 ↗ for investments or it'll help us remove

9:10 ↗ projects completely

9:12 ↗ so that we can explore alternatives so

9:15 ↗ in the staff evaluation of the projects

9:17 ↗ we'll identify near-term

9:18 ↗ midterm and long-term projects include

9:21 ↗ project justifications

9:23 ↗ on how well each of how well the project

9:26 ↗ meets what we're looking for as

9:29 ↗ identified in the mobility master plan

9:31 ↗ so at the january meeting we'll talk a

9:33 ↗ little more in depth about the process

9:35 ↗ and the steps we'll take in 2021

9:38 ↗ and we'll and we'll be and we'll be

9:40 ↗ letting you know when we'll be asking

9:41 ↗ for actions on any of that

9:46 ↗ now after this process is established

9:47 ↗ next year the next cip process

9:50 ↗ will be a little more simple

9:53 ↗ and it shouldn't take as long because

9:55 ↗ we'll we won't have to go to this

9:57 ↗ process where we're having to go through

9:59 ↗ each of the projects talk about

10:01 ↗ what is eating at least the vision and

10:04 ↗ the mobility of ash plan or at least

10:05 ↗ identified in the guiding principles

10:07 ↗ and for this future process we'll carry

10:10 ↗ over the previous

10:11 ↗ translation improvement program and make

10:13 ↗ similar adjustments as we've done in the

10:15 ↗ past

10:16 ↗ and because the mmp will already be

10:18 ↗ incorporated as part of the tap

10:22 ↗ any questions on kind of the cip process

10:25 ↗ for next year

10:30 ↗ yes

10:32 ↗ and uh while i ask a question stephen do

10:34 ↗ you have your chat window open

10:36 ↗ um i was going to suggest that

10:40 ↗ board members if you have a question or

10:42 ↗ comment maybe put a little note in like

10:44 ↗ i did

10:45 ↗ in the chat window so that way you don't

10:47 ↗ get lost when you're in the

10:48 ↗ presentation um goes and you want to

10:50 ↗ know you want to ask a question then

10:52 ↗ uh does that work for you stephen um

10:56 ↗ do you have the chat trying to actually

10:58 ↗ find it

11:01 ↗ bottom right well it's because i'm

11:03 ↗ presenting okay it actually is showing

11:05 ↗ me

11:06 ↗ something different okay stephen i don't

11:09 ↗ know if this is possible

11:10 ↗ is it possible for me to raise my hand

11:12 ↗ if i see some questions or

11:14 ↗ try and get your attention that way if

11:16 ↗ there's some questions in the chat and i

11:18 ↗ could just watch it for you

11:20 ↗ uh sure sure whichever works um

11:23 ↗ either john or nina okay and you don't

11:26 ↗ need to put your questions in the chat

11:28 ↗ just put the fact that you have a

11:29 ↗ question or a comment and then

11:31 ↗ um stephen can call on you and then have

11:33 ↗ an opportunity to speak

11:34 ↗ and my question stephen is and i'm i'm

11:37 ↗ going to start it with the

11:38 ↗ admission that this is complicated i'm

11:41 ↗ probably getting a little lost

11:43 ↗ in all these steps i have to admit but

11:46 ↗ um in the previous slide you talked

11:48 ↗ about taking future projects off of

11:50 ↗ tip that way and

11:53 ↗ where do they go i kind of lost track of

11:56 ↗ what happens with that

11:57 ↗ list what what we'll be doing is we'll

11:59 ↗ actually be just taking that out of

12:01 ↗ the previous dip and then

12:05 ↗ adding in that same project list but

12:07 ↗ it's now prioritized from the mobility

12:09 ↗ master plan

12:10 ↗ so it's all the same projects but now

12:12 ↗ they've been identified in the mobility

12:14 ↗ master plan

12:15 ↗ with how well they're addressing the

12:17 ↗ guiding principles

12:22 ↗ uh question so the other ones that

12:24 ↗ aren't prioritized do they

12:26 ↗ come out or are they just going to be

12:28 ↗ kind of like in the back pages of

12:29 ↗ projects that were

12:31 ↗ on the ongoing list but aren't

12:32 ↗ prioritized or funded yet

12:35 ↗ you're talking about what was in the

12:36 ↗ previous tip

12:38 ↗ right the only projects that i'll be

12:41 ↗ carrying over from the previous tip is

12:43 ↗ actually only the ones that we've

12:44 ↗ actually committed to with investments

12:47 ↗ oh okay so everything else will come out

12:49 ↗ and we'll now

12:50 ↗ start with the mobility master plan as a

12:54 ↗ starting process forward yeah exactly

12:57 ↗ but we need to stay committed to a lot

12:59 ↗ of those projects that we have

13:00 ↗ investments too so they'll stay at kind

13:02 ↗ of the top of the list

13:07 ↗ any other questions about this i have a

13:10 ↗ question

13:11 ↗ yes um this is cynthia and uh

13:14 ↗ i think when you say take out you mean

13:17 ↗ sort of

13:18 ↗ take them out and look at them set them

13:20 ↗ aside and re-prioritize them you don't

13:22 ↗ mean take a medicine make them go away

13:24 ↗ um i presume it's so it's an exercise

13:28 ↗ yes the main thing is we're just trying

13:30 ↗ to take the

13:31 ↗ the prioritization from the mobility

13:33 ↗ master plan because it's all the same

13:35 ↗ projects

13:35 ↗ my other my other question i think we

13:38 ↗ went through this and i think the

13:39 ↗ consultant

13:40 ↗ talked about this but i'm wondering if

13:43 ↗ you can remind us

13:44 ↗ about um holes based on our what do we

13:47 ↗ call them guiding principles

13:49 ↗ because um did they because

13:53 ↗ i the prioritizing project makes sense

13:55 ↗ but what are we missing did that

13:58 ↗ ex isn't there uh some sort of truing up

14:01 ↗ about the project list and

14:02 ↗ identifying what might be missing from

14:04 ↗ the project list based on our

14:07 ↗ original policies and their guiding

14:10 ↗ principles

14:12 ↗ because it's possible

14:16 ↗ what were we going to say steven well i

14:18 ↗ was going to ask

14:19 ↗ um do you mean in terms of like the gaps

14:21 ↗ in the system

14:22 ↗ or yes because

14:25 ↗ okay while we're re-prioritizing i just

14:28 ↗ want to make sure we're also asking

14:29 ↗ what's missing

14:31 ↗ because it's a false uh exercise to

14:34 ↗ think that the list is comprehensive and

14:36 ↗ then everything that

14:37 ↗ i mean i'm sure there's a long list far

14:39 ↗ beyond what can be funded i know there

14:41 ↗ is

14:42 ↗ but the point is was there any were

14:43 ↗ there any gaps i know they talked about

14:45 ↗ gaps in the system did they

14:46 ↗ talk about addressing the gaps in the

14:49 ↗ project list

14:50 ↗ yes yeah i feel like we have that

14:52 ↗ conversation like nine months ago or

14:54 ↗ something didn't we

14:55 ↗ yes so the the gaps in the system were

14:58 ↗ actually identified as a

14:59 ↗ separate project that was prioritized in

15:01 ↗ the mobility master plan

15:02 ↗ okay so they made their way into that

15:04 ↗ list yes

15:06 ↗ so we think that we've got a list that

15:09 ↗ is

15:09 ↗ that includes everything we can think of

15:11 ↗ that would address

15:13 ↗ all of the things that came up in the

15:14 ↗ plant okay i just wanted to be reminded

15:16 ↗ of that

15:17 ↗ so it wasn't everything that carried

15:19 ↗ over and i've forgotten the number of

15:21 ↗ projects that they

15:22 ↗ added like i feel like we went there's

15:25 ↗ about 60 projects

15:26 ↗ they added them they added 50 or there

15:28 ↗ were 50 in total

15:30 ↗ they added 50. there's a total of about

15:32 ↗ 148 i believe

15:34 ↗ okay i know we've been through this but

15:37 ↗ i couldn't remember that's okay

15:39 ↗ okay thank you yeah and just to

15:42 ↗ to remind everyone um yes this is

15:45 ↗ comprehensive

15:46 ↗ to everything we can think of at this

15:48 ↗ time next year

15:50 ↗ there might be new ideas that we might

15:52 ↗ want to pursue or add to the list

15:54 ↗ and that'll just be the case every year

15:56 ↗ as we kind of look at this and review

15:58 ↗ the mobility master plan

16:00 ↗ and when we start talking about transit

16:02 ↗ there might be transit projects

16:03 ↗ more transit projects we might want to

16:05 ↗ add to the list too so it's just kind of

16:07 ↗ a cycle

16:08 ↗ of you know start to implement

16:11 ↗ see if anything's missing and then

16:12 ↗ review what's the project list looks

16:14 ↗ like

16:17 ↗ any other questions before i move on

16:19 ↗ kind of what to the next steps are

16:23 ↗ okay

16:27 ↗ so this will be quick the mobility

16:29 ↗ master plan

16:30 ↗ has been added to the comp plan docket

16:35 ↗ so there is a new trustation element

16:37 ↗ that's being reviewed

16:39 ↗ for approval by city council it went to

16:42 ↗ the planning policy commission earlier

16:45 ↗ this month

16:49 ↗ for the the public public hearing for

16:51 ↗ the comp plan docket item

16:53 ↗ and there were no issues and so no

16:56 ↗ changes were made actually at the public

16:57 ↗ hearing

16:58 ↗ so it's now going to go to city council

16:59 ↗ study session in early november we'll

17:01 ↗ discuss the full package of the compound

17:03 ↗ update

17:04 ↗ and then council will consider adoption

17:08 ↗ in early december

17:09 ↗ and that's when all of our hard work

17:12 ↗ kind of gets

17:12 ↗ finalized and formalized even though

17:15 ↗ we're starting

17:16 ↗ talking about implementation

17:18 ↗ implementation really doesn't

17:19 ↗ happen until after that date

17:24 ↗ okay any other questions about the

17:27 ↗ mobility match fan

17:28 ↗ was everybody able to review the the new

17:31 ↗ version of it

17:34 ↗ any comments you want to make about what

17:36 ↗ you

17:37 ↗ were able to read into it that's what

17:39 ↗ jata needs

17:42 ↗ um this is sujata um the i really

17:46 ↗ appreciate how thoughtful you guys were

17:49 ↗ in taking our feedback um the new

17:52 ↗ version is

17:53 ↗ much more streamlined much easier to

17:56 ↗ read

17:56 ↗ it flows very nicely and i think it

17:59 ↗ really

18:00 ↗ sort of conveys what we um

18:03 ↗ as a committee were um you know kind of

18:06 ↗ wanting to see

18:07 ↗ as the vision of transportation in our

18:10 ↗ city

18:10 ↗ so i i i was really

18:14 ↗ kind of blown away at how thoughtful you

18:16 ↗ guys were

18:17 ↗ in integrating our comments um because

18:20 ↗ you could have totally blown us off and

18:21 ↗ you didn't i really appreciate it

18:27 ↗ yeah we tried to we tried to be um if i

18:30 ↗ if i can

18:31 ↗ respond and we we tried to be um as

18:33 ↗ transparent as possible there's there's

18:35 ↗ that

18:35 ↗ full table of list of all the comments

18:38 ↗ um just so we weren't you know

18:42 ↗ completely showing you a redline version

18:43 ↗ that would have just been really

18:44 ↗ difficult to read

18:46 ↗ um so the table is really where we're

18:49 ↗ trying to show

18:49 ↗ what the changes have been kind of over

18:51 ↗ time particularly since july

18:56 ↗ good thank you sujata tom or cynthia if

18:58 ↗ you

18:59 ↗ have something cynthia would you like to

19:00 ↗ speak i was just going to say that i

19:02 ↗ really liked i want to put it on my wall

19:05 ↗ um the page 13 of 259 which is an

19:09 ↗ intimidating

19:10 ↗ number right there but um the

19:12 ↗ relationship to other plans

19:14 ↗ i first looked at that and i was a

19:15 ↗ little skeptical and i actually followed

19:17 ↗ the lines

19:17 ↗ and thought it was really useful and i

19:20 ↗ just thought the executive summary in

19:22 ↗ general

19:22 ↗ was pretty useful um and

19:25 ↗ i thought it was well uh yeah it was

19:29 ↗ well done

19:30 ↗ thanks thank you cynthia tom do you have

19:33 ↗ something

19:34 ↗ uh i do not have any additional comments

19:36 ↗ because i am

19:39 ↗ i've not had a chance to read through

19:41 ↗ the whole thing yet so quite all right

19:42 ↗ sounds like

19:43 ↗ from what i've heard so far that a

19:46 ↗ really well job was done as far as

19:47 ↗ incorporating the comments and

19:49 ↗ and uh responding to him yeah

19:53 ↗ thank you oh yeah very good

19:56 ↗ i i would add um the like sujata the

20:00 ↗ um surprise and delight that i had in

20:03 ↗ looking in this version

20:05 ↗ of the plan and

20:08 ↗ one of the things that was a big

20:10 ↗ standout for me and it's nice that it's

20:11 ↗ right up the front

20:12 ↗ is the executive summary and with the

20:16 ↗ real um

20:17 ↗ really keeping in mind that that

20:18 ↗ audience wants to get information very

20:21 ↗ quickly

20:21 ↗ very simply very graphically i mean your

20:24 ↗ uh

20:25 ↗ the graphic work like the page that

20:26 ↗ cynthia called out and the others too

20:29 ↗ um that gave you at a glance

20:33 ↗ uh the spirit the intention the vision

20:36 ↗ of

20:36 ↗ where you were going to go when you get

20:38 ↗ into the liberty of the plan so i was

20:40 ↗ really impressed with that and really

20:41 ↗ enjoyed it

20:42 ↗ and um thank you for listening to us and

20:44 ↗ the city council who also was very

20:46 ↗ interested in having the executive

20:48 ↗ summary um streamlined and been more

20:51 ↗ high level

20:52 ↗ and bumping out that the details to the

20:55 ↗ other part of the plan

20:56 ↗ i think it worked it worked really well

20:58 ↗ to make that revision

21:00 ↗ and i also appreciate the tables of um

21:03 ↗ changes uh they are easy to follow it

21:06 ↗ was a good tool

21:08 ↗ so that's all i have anybody else have

21:10 ↗ anything else to say about the

21:14 ↗ update

21:16 ↗ all right are we done with that uh

21:18 ↗ agenda item then stephen

21:21 ↗ yes yes if there's no uh no other

21:24 ↗ comments or questions

21:25 ↗ um we'll we'll kind of

21:29 ↗ continue forward okay implementation

21:32 ↗ okay excellent onward the next item on

21:35 ↗ our agenda is the complete streets

21:37 ↗ policy update and again i turn it over

21:40 ↗ to stephen padua senior

21:42 ↗ transportation planner for the city of

21:43 ↗ the law

21:46 ↗ thank you give me one minute to pull it

21:49 ↗ up

21:54 ↗ okay let's share my screen

21:57 ↗ all right can everybody see my um

22:00 ↗ slides all right okay perfect

22:08 ↗ there you go um thank you again

22:11 ↗ um for this agenda item tonight i'll

22:14 ↗ review our work

22:15 ↗ to update the complete streets policy

22:17 ↗ and discuss

22:18 ↗ next steps um the last time the board

22:21 ↗ saw this was

22:22 ↗ back in january this year and then prior

22:25 ↗ to that it was

22:26 ↗ september or october in 2019

22:30 ↗ um so the board has seen this a few

22:33 ↗ times

22:34 ↗ but it's been a while this has kind of

22:36 ↗ been a work in progress for a little

22:38 ↗ over a year now so

22:40 ↗ we just wanted to give the board a

22:42 ↗ little bit of a refresher and then have

22:43 ↗ a discussion of what you

22:44 ↗ were able to review and agenda packet

22:49 ↗ so this we currently have language

22:53 ↗ in our code now that was adopted back in

22:55 ↗ 2008

22:57 ↗ as you see it's very short and simple

23:00 ↗ and to the point

23:02 ↗ but it is missing a lot of useful

23:04 ↗ language that we could use to guide

23:06 ↗ what complete streets actually is and

23:08 ↗ how we actually want to implement it

23:10 ↗ and that's part of the reason why we

23:12 ↗ want to update it

23:14 ↗ we it provides the ability to enforce

23:17 ↗ what complete streets means

23:18 ↗ in our work and what we're trying to

23:20 ↗ achieve in the process to develop the

23:22 ↗ mobility master plan the question on

23:24 ↗ why this separate policy was brought up

23:27 ↗ and and the reason why is

23:29 ↗ was this wasn't moved completely to

23:32 ↗ the mobility master plan or the comp

23:34 ↗ plan is because it's considered

23:36 ↗ best practice to actually have separate

23:37 ↗ policy and for that reason the state and

23:40 ↗ federal grants

23:41 ↗ that we tend to go for reward more

23:44 ↗ points

23:45 ↗ when we have a separate policy on

23:46 ↗ complete streets there's in washington

23:48 ↗ state there's actual reward program

23:50 ↗ called the complete streets reward

23:52 ↗ program with the transportation

23:54 ↗ improvement board

23:55 ↗ that rewards us for not only having this

23:58 ↗ as a separate policy but how we actually

24:00 ↗ implement it too

24:02 ↗ and so this is just one of those steps

24:04 ↗ to improve our

24:05 ↗ ability or an eligibility for getting

24:08 ↗ any of those grants

24:11 ↗ and additionally um how we use the

24:14 ↗ complete streets policy it

24:16 ↗ influences several stages of every

24:18 ↗ project that we implement

24:19 ↗ more directly it guides what should be

24:21 ↗ in the city standards

24:22 ↗ and how they should be used and this is

24:24 ↗ a really good reason to

24:26 ↗ come move forward with a little more

24:29 ↗ comprehensive update

24:30 ↗ of what we want from the complete

24:32 ↗ streets policy

24:34 ↗ as you can see we added quite a bit the

24:36 ↗ proposal is

24:37 ↗ is including a lot of areas that are

24:41 ↗ suggested

24:42 ↗ as best practice nationally

24:45 ↗ but it also helps us more locally and

24:47 ↗ how we actually want to be addressing

24:49 ↗ all of this is there's

24:50 ↗ especially more detail and areas of who

24:53 ↗ benefits from this policy

24:55 ↗ what's prioritized from having complete

24:58 ↗ streets and

24:58 ↗ and what we're committed to and when

25:00 ↗ exceptions should be considered and how

25:02 ↗ to process each of those

25:04 ↗ something that our current policy

25:06 ↗ currently doesn't really address at all

25:09 ↗ so back in 2019 when the board reviewed

25:13 ↗ the um one of the original drafts

25:16 ↗ we this is the feedback that we received

25:18 ↗ we heard that we needed to improve the

25:20 ↗ language on the users of the system

25:22 ↗ we needed to consider enforcement and we

25:24 ↗ needed to clarify

25:25 ↗ what this all actually means um

25:28 ↗ and and so the next iteration that the

25:31 ↗ board

25:32 ↗ saw um was back in january of this year

25:36 ↗ and the feedback that we received was

25:38 ↗ related to

25:40 ↗ the use of commitments uh final edits to

25:43 ↗ the user's

25:44 ↗ uh definition and incorporating

25:46 ↗ additional language on division zero and

25:48 ↗ making sure that strong

25:50 ↗ just to complement the policy that we

25:52 ↗ are

25:53 ↗ proposing as part of the mobility master

25:54 ↗ plan and the new transportation element

25:57 ↗ and the final draft that resulted from

25:59 ↗ that feedback is included for the agenda

26:01 ↗ packet for tonight

26:06 ↗ so what i'd like to do now is kind of

26:09 ↗ have a discussion

26:10 ↗ about what's in the policy um the reason

26:13 ↗ why i didn't provide a redline

26:15 ↗ a version of it is because it really

26:16 ↗ wasn't a lot of changes

26:18 ↗ since the version that came that the

26:20 ↗ board saw in january so i figured we

26:22 ↗ would just talk about it

26:23 ↗ was everybody able to read through the

26:25 ↗ the new draft policy

26:28 ↗ most of everyone

26:34 ↗ do you want to start with questions yeah

26:37 ↗ let's see are there any questions about

26:39 ↗ what you read and then we can discuss

26:41 ↗ how we felt about

26:42 ↗ what we read but are there any

26:44 ↗ clarifying questions

26:47 ↗ i i have a question um when comparing

26:51 ↗ the

26:52 ↗ complete streets policy and then

26:55 ↗ um what has been included in the mmp

26:59 ↗ uh i was uh i thought

27:03 ↗ i was concerned that there was overlap

27:06 ↗ where there's

27:07 ↗ there's some complete streets language

27:10 ↗ in the mobility master plan it's not the

27:13 ↗ whole thing

27:14 ↗ and it doesn't say look at the

27:17 ↗ complete streets policy why don't we

27:20 ↗ just say

27:21 ↗ the complete streets policy is a

27:22 ↗ separate document go look there

27:25 ↗ we we actually do um but it

27:28 ↗ i think you're right that it's not clear

27:30 ↗ enough in at least

27:32 ↗ at the front of the plan it's more i

27:35 ↗ believe in the

27:36 ↗ appendices when we're talking about the

27:38 ↗ different policies that the city has

27:40 ↗ around transportation

27:41 ↗ and that it references the city code for

27:44 ↗ the complete streets policy

27:46 ↗ yeah it's on page 51 of the packet

27:51 ↗ um and it's a chapter and there are

27:54 ↗ you know 250 words here 350 words about

27:57 ↗ complete streets and it seems like

28:02 ↗ it is the complete streets policy but of

28:05 ↗ course we know it's not

28:06 ↗ so why doesn't it just say complete

28:08 ↗ streets is not here

28:10 ↗ oh i see see what i'm it's on page 51.

28:15 ↗ we actually started with that in one of

28:17 ↗ the original drafts of the mobility

28:19 ↗ master plan and the comment was

28:20 ↗ that we don't we didn't explain it

28:23 ↗ enough

28:24 ↗ and so we we decided to carry over more

28:26 ↗ of the language from the new policy or

28:28 ↗ the new close drop

28:30 ↗ policy so that it's more consistent but

28:33 ↗ that we can also explain it a little bit

28:34 ↗ more because there's

28:36 ↗ individuals out there that are going to

28:37 ↗ be reading the mobility master plan and

28:39 ↗ have no idea what that all means in

28:41 ↗ terms of what complete sheets are

28:43 ↗ and we thought the language that's in

28:46 ↗ the draft policy

28:47 ↗ explains it quite well and so we want to

28:50 ↗ make consistency

28:51 ↗ um but i i agree with you that we could

28:54 ↗ actually just add a sentence there to

28:56 ↗ just in addition to

28:58 ↗ explaining it all we can also reference

29:00 ↗ that the

29:02 ↗ actual policy is located at this

29:04 ↗ location in the city code

29:06 ↗ yeah i get i get concerned about having

29:09 ↗ two versions

29:10 ↗ and and somewhere down the path they

29:13 ↗ aren't

29:14 ↗ um maintained in a consistent fashion

29:16 ↗ and then

29:17 ↗ people that we're working with whether

29:18 ↗ it's the staff or

29:20 ↗ um you know contractors or funders or

29:23 ↗ whoever

29:23 ↗ are confused between discrepancies

29:25 ↗ between the two things so

29:27 ↗ yeah i would advise making it clear

29:29 ↗ where the policy is

29:31 ↗ and maybe make this language look a

29:32 ↗ little more

29:34 ↗ less policy like you know it's got

29:36 ↗ policy paragraphs

29:37 ↗ more just descriptive

29:41 ↗ so that you it wouldn't be confused as

29:44 ↗ complete streets policy that would be

29:47 ↗ that would be my

29:48 ↗ um advice just on this and then you can

29:50 ↗ take it with your expertise and see what

29:52 ↗ you think of that further but

29:54 ↗ sure thank you okay anybody else and

29:57 ↗ seeing everybody muted nobody in the

29:59 ↗ chat anybody

30:01 ↗ raise your hands any other questions

30:05 ↗ we can go into discussion on certain

30:09 ↗ elements or some parts of it that you

30:12 ↗ may like to provide comments or have us

30:15 ↗ discuss

30:15 ↗ anybody ready

30:19 ↗ so john so do you have anything to say

30:21 ↗ about it tom

30:23 ↗ you have anything on your mind about the

30:25 ↗ complete streets policy

30:27 ↗ you want to contribute

30:32 ↗ uh this is tom i don't have comments on

30:35 ↗ the company's street

30:38 ↗ i'll see if this time i would like to

30:40 ↗ have a chance and review it and

30:41 ↗ get back with comments by the end of the

30:43 ↗ week

30:45 ↗ if that's okay that's the steven's

30:48 ↗ schedule there

30:50 ↗ yeah that's fine i mean the idea with

30:53 ↗ bringing this tonight was more of a

30:55 ↗ refresher and also

30:57 ↗ to just give the board another

30:58 ↗ opportunity to take a look at it um

31:00 ↗ you do eventually need to take action

31:02 ↗ before we take the city council so that

31:05 ↗ the board can make a recommendation to

31:06 ↗ city council on how to

31:09 ↗ proceed with the the new draft policy

31:12 ↗ language

31:14 ↗ when would we be taking that action

31:17 ↗ uh right now it's proposed at for the

31:20 ↗ november meeting

31:21 ↗ um but then that's kind of a discussion

31:24 ↗ for tonight when we look at the schedule

31:27 ↗ okay cynthia do you have anything you

31:29 ↗ want to say no i'm gonna

31:31 ↗ fess up and say i actually got a little

31:33 ↗ lost in the packet

31:34 ↗ and um i ended up

31:37 ↗ and i didn't give it as much time as i

31:39 ↗ should of course but i ended up

31:42 ↗ on the slides and wondering where the

31:44 ↗ beef was

31:45 ↗ and then just you know moved on without

31:48 ↗ continuing to look and of course now i

31:49 ↗ see that it's

31:50 ↗ it's plainly here um starting on

31:53 ↗ page 237 of the packet

31:57 ↗ is there any way to um just provide a

31:59 ↗ hot link

32:00 ↗ to the agenda i know i see other agendas

32:02 ↗ um

32:04 ↗ where the i don't know if it's a lot of

32:05 ↗ trouble don't worry about it but

32:06 ↗ sometimes um

32:08 ↗ in a packet that's this big it becomes

32:10 ↗ cumbersome to find

32:11 ↗ the this that we're looking for for a

32:14 ↗ particular agenda item

32:16 ↗ um and so uh it might

32:20 ↗ maybe help me just a little tiny bit uh

32:22 ↗ when i'm trying to do my homework if

32:24 ↗ um i know where i'm looking and a quick

32:27 ↗ link that would then bounce me to

32:29 ↗ the beginning of that because as i was

32:32 ↗ looking for it i ended up on the

32:34 ↗ um the slides and

32:37 ↗ looked and see the content and you know

32:39 ↗ so i don't know that

32:40 ↗ so

32:44 ↗ um sorry i didn't mean two-third no yeah

32:47 ↗ it starts on 237

32:49 ↗ yeah if you in the email that gets sent

32:52 ↗ out from the city clerk to all of us

32:54 ↗ that if you go to

32:55 ↗ the um just the agenda the online agenda

32:59 ↗ it actually breaks out each of the

33:01 ↗ agenda

33:02 ↗ items with links

33:05 ↗ so you don't have to go to the full

33:07 ↗ agenda packet you can actually just go

33:08 ↗ to the online agenda and there's links

33:11 ↗ to break it up

33:11 ↗ do you mean the split screen because i

33:13 ↗ couldn't figure out what the split

33:15 ↗ screen is

33:17 ↗ yes the split screen okay i could never

33:21 ↗ that's been a bit of a mystery for me

33:23 ↗ since we went since covid like

33:25 ↗ trying to figure out what split screen

33:27 ↗ actually means i don't know what else is

33:29 ↗ in the other side of the screen

33:31 ↗ oh i see that's interesting okay yeah

33:33 ↗ but i

33:34 ↗ see now that you're saying

33:38 ↗ view draft policy okay i didn't

33:40 ↗ understand

33:41 ↗ what the split what is a split screen

33:43 ↗ can somebody tell me what that is

33:45 ↗ it's just everything's live

33:48 ↗ on the split screen you can see the

33:50 ↗ agenda but you can also see other

33:51 ↗ agendas at the top of the screen so it's

33:53 ↗ kind of split

33:54 ↗ um i don't know why they call it split

33:56 ↗ screen but that's that's just

33:58 ↗ the name that's been assigned to it

34:01 ↗ yeah because it seems like the split

34:02 ↗ screen only has that one little section

34:04 ↗ because i've always gone to the other

34:05 ↗ one because i found the split screen a

34:06 ↗ little confusing but now that i'm

34:08 ↗ actually unit and bouncing around i can

34:10 ↗ see it takes me to certain sections not

34:11 ↗ the whole document

34:12 ↗ that takes certain sections so that's

34:15 ↗ helpful thank you

34:16 ↗ yeah but not the whole document that's

34:19 ↗ very helpful i hadn't really understood

34:21 ↗ that and i

34:23 ↗ will look there next time thank you

34:27 ↗ so for example the split screen might be

34:28 ↗ good for um

34:30 ↗ the links for just the sections we want

34:32 ↗ to focus on so you don't have to read

34:33 ↗ through the whole document

34:34 ↗ but we can go to those sections and

34:36 ↗ those of what we reviewed

34:37 ↗ i could see that being very helpful yeah

34:42 ↗ thanks i didn't really understand the

34:43 ↗ split screen yes but i do yeah that's

34:45 ↗ typically what i use

34:47 ↗ um for these meetings is to help go

34:50 ↗ through everything

34:51 ↗ see aren't you guys glad that i'm

34:52 ↗ willing to fess up look what we all

34:54 ↗ learned

34:55 ↗ thank you cynthia and it was a big

34:58 ↗ packet

34:59 ↗ this this week but it would be great to

35:02 ↗ look at these documents more thoroughly

35:04 ↗ i'll admit too that i only got to

35:07 ↗ sort of glance through and look for some

35:09 ↗ key items

35:10 ↗ in the complete series policy that i

35:12 ↗ wanted to discuss and

35:14 ↗ i do have um one topic for discussion

35:17 ↗ that's one that

35:18 ↗ caught my eye before so at the risk of

35:21 ↗ being a broken record

35:23 ↗ on page 240 the exceptions

35:26 ↗ and and then i was thinking about

35:30 ↗ asking you about those in relationship

35:33 ↗ to the context sensitivity

35:37 ↗ which i know is important that's on page

35:38 ↗ 243 of the packet

35:40 ↗ and the reason i'm bringing it up for

35:42 ↗ discussion and want to hear more from

35:44 ↗ you and maybe john is that

35:47 ↗ we put the we create these policies and

35:49 ↗ they're really important to us

35:51 ↗ and god dang it somebody finds a way to

35:53 ↗ get around them

35:54 ↗ or somebody finds a way to not do them

35:57 ↗ and so i want to

35:58 ↗ i want to see if i can set up a fortress

36:01 ↗ of yeah let's have complete streets and

36:04 ↗ how can we have them and i wanted to

36:05 ↗ make sure that you were confident with

36:07 ↗ the

36:07 ↗ language in both these things and how

36:09 ↗ they work together

36:10 ↗ to create variability um maybe the very

36:14 ↗ not the variability we desire

36:17 ↗ that make sense yes yeah noah we we

36:20 ↗ actually feel very confident with it i

36:22 ↗ mean

36:22 ↗ we started with recommended language

36:24 ↗ that came from our consultant

36:26 ↗ and then we worked with all the

36:27 ↗ different staff that have to

36:29 ↗ either work with private developers or

36:32 ↗ work work on our own projects

36:34 ↗ to determine the type of exceptions that

36:38 ↗ typically come up and to make sure that

36:40 ↗ we're not allowing loopholes so that

36:42 ↗ anyone could

36:43 ↗ go around any any of these exceptions

36:46 ↗ and not implement complete streets most

36:49 ↗ projects are

36:50 ↗ typically a negotiation process so a lot

36:53 ↗ of it has to deal with

36:54 ↗ the staff enforcing it too more so than

36:56 ↗ what the language says and and

36:58 ↗ we're pretty confident in our staff um

37:00 ↗ being

37:01 ↗ really good negotiators when it comes to

37:04 ↗ talking about

37:05 ↗ how projects should be looking for but

37:07 ↗ also being

37:08 ↗ um very sensitive to the type of

37:10 ↗ policies that we're trying to

37:11 ↗ stick to particularly because the

37:13 ↗ mobility master plan and the complete

37:15 ↗ streets policy are

37:16 ↗ brand new and so

37:20 ↗ even though transportation staff are

37:21 ↗ probably the most uh up to date on it

37:24 ↗ i'll be going to each of the departments

37:26 ↗ around a lot of new policy language

37:28 ↗ that's coming from the mobility master

37:29 ↗ plan

37:30 ↗ and any other policy updates to let them

37:32 ↗ know

37:33 ↗ what's updated how we can use it and to

37:36 ↗ talk about

37:37 ↗ talk to them particularly around issues

37:39 ↗ that they see

37:40 ↗ that might come up so that we can

37:42 ↗ particularly fix that in the future

37:47 ↗ i don't know if you had anything to add

37:49 ↗ well just in that um

37:51 ↗ you know i think one of the things you

37:52 ↗ said inspired me um

37:54 ↗ to point out that sometimes the staff

37:57 ↗ needs when you talk about enforcement

38:00 ↗ they need something really

38:01 ↗ strong to enforce it and that's why we

38:04 ↗ talked about the shall

38:06 ↗ kind of will words rather than the

38:07 ↗ shoulds because the shoulds never get

38:09 ↗ you anywhere

38:10 ↗ and so i'm really glad to see more of

38:13 ↗ those

38:14 ↗ assertive phrasings and and just hope

38:17 ↗ that

38:18 ↗ that the whole staff can agree that they

38:20 ↗ stand very strong

38:22 ↗ with um the language that's in those two

38:25 ↗ sections

38:26 ↗ right and and the reason why we have

38:29 ↗ you know whole section on exceptions is

38:32 ↗ because

38:33 ↗ you know not every situation is perfect

38:35 ↗ where we can implement everything we

38:38 ↗ want and so we

38:39 ↗ we need to be able to have language

38:41 ↗ available that we can work with not

38:43 ↗ necessarily that

38:44 ↗ allow someone to bypass it completely

38:46 ↗ but at least

38:47 ↗ to work with them on how to stick to

38:50 ↗ what the policy is trying to achieve

38:56 ↗ thank you steven uh anybody else have

38:59 ↗ anything else that popped into their

39:01 ↗ brain

39:01 ↗ to discuss so jata

39:05 ↗ it's yours thank you i actually i have a

39:07 ↗ question about definitions

39:09 ↗ um and specifically the definition of

39:12 ↗ all users

39:14 ↗ um and i apologize because i'm sure we

39:16 ↗ talked about this before

39:18 ↗ but i for the life of me cannot remember

39:21 ↗ what that conversation entailed um so i

39:24 ↗ apologize but

39:25 ↗ uh one of the things i was noticing so

39:28 ↗ the all ages and abilities

39:30 ↗ i guess the question becomes and and

39:33 ↗ maybe

39:34 ↗ this is just too much in the weeds in my

39:37 ↗ background you know with the regional

39:38 ↗ trails

39:39 ↗ is um so we always talk about all ages

39:41 ↗ and abilities and when we're talking

39:42 ↗ about all ages and abilities

39:44 ↗ there's that real intent around you know

39:47 ↗ the five

39:47 ↗ less than five percent grade and two

39:49 ↗ percent cross slope for 88

39:51 ↗ to meet those ada requirements and so

39:54 ↗ when i see our

39:57 ↗ complete streets network defining

40:01 ↗ all ages and abilities um

40:05 ↗ you know because in a lot of cases when

40:07 ↗ you're in the road right of way

40:09 ↗ it's different because you have that

40:11 ↗ waiver because you know when streets go

40:13 ↗ up hills your sidewalks can go up hills

40:15 ↗ and so you don't have that same

40:17 ↗ sort of level of requirement and so i'm

40:20 ↗ just

40:21 ↗ um so and and maybe it's because

40:24 ↗ that that's non-motorized and this is

40:26 ↗ motorized and so you you're in a

40:28 ↗ different section of

40:29 ↗ ashtow or whatever it may be but um i

40:32 ↗ just

40:33 ↗ as you know we want to see streets where

40:36 ↗ people feel comfortable walking and

40:37 ↗ people

40:38 ↗ feel comfortable biking but we also

40:41 ↗ don't want to wind up in scenarios where

40:43 ↗ we're raising our you know

40:45 ↗ like flattening mountains or you know

40:48 ↗ having to alter our landscape to such an

40:50 ↗ extent to sort of meet you know

40:54 ↗ requirements um that maybe that is not

40:56 ↗ the right place for

40:58 ↗ so um can we can you just

41:02 ↗ talk to me a little bit about that

41:03 ↗ definition of all ages

41:06 ↗ and you know just making sure that we're

41:08 ↗ compatible like as much as we can we

41:10 ↗ want to achieve that need but like

41:12 ↗ on my hill i cannot even imagine what an

41:14 ↗ all-age disability sidewalk would look

41:16 ↗ like

41:17 ↗ um so just you know

41:22 ↗ i just want to make sure we're not

41:23 ↗ getting into a scenario that we can't

41:25 ↗ implement sure um i mean the discussions

41:27 ↗ that we previously had on

41:29 ↗ at least the definitions page

41:31 ↗ particularly around all ages abilities

41:32 ↗ and the users was really so that we can

41:34 ↗ highlight

41:35 ↗ who's who's who's typically

41:39 ↗ the um users that aren't

41:42 ↗ mentioned when we have these

41:44 ↗ conversations and that's why we wanted

41:46 ↗ to highlight them

41:47 ↗ particularly so that no one tries to

41:49 ↗ find a loophole

41:50 ↗ around trying to make or for in terms of

41:53 ↗ like looking for exceptions

41:55 ↗ and all ages and abilities doesn't

41:57 ↗ necessarily mean that we're going to

41:59 ↗ make everything ada compliant

42:00 ↗ it just means we're going to go to the

42:03 ↗ best

42:04 ↗ of our ability to do that within the

42:06 ↗ means that

42:07 ↗ in within the situation that we're

42:09 ↗ trying to look at and

42:11 ↗ you know for very steep hills

42:15 ↗ that aren't typically ada compliant

42:17 ↗ particularly yours

42:19 ↗ what is ada compliant is to be able to

42:22 ↗ put

42:22 ↗ some type of facility every certain

42:24 ↗ number of feet

42:26 ↗ as kind of a resting spot and

42:29 ↗ that is in the means of being able to

42:31 ↗ get to all ages and abilities

42:33 ↗ to get to the populations that are

42:36 ↗ typically

42:39 ↗ not designed for in traditional

42:42 ↗ transportation and so we want to make

42:43 ↗ sure that

42:44 ↗ that's included in these definitions and

42:46 ↗ that that's

42:47 ↗ most of what the board has discussed is

42:49 ↗ making sure that we are highly

42:51 ↗ highlighting a lot of those populations

42:57 ↗ thank you that was a super question

43:01 ↗ so thank you so much for the good

43:02 ↗ discussion that's the question do you

43:05 ↗ have anything

43:06 ↗ yeah i just um i'm this is my broken

43:08 ↗ record thing as always um

43:10 ↗ with regard to bicyclists under all

43:12 ↗ users is it

43:14 ↗ make any sense or are other

43:16 ↗ transportation

43:17 ↗ professionals breaking out the needs of

43:19 ↗ different levels of cyclists i know

43:21 ↗ we've seen different

43:22 ↗ you know uh profiles graphics of

43:24 ↗ different profiles but

43:26 ↗ i've seen um situations that got built

43:30 ↗ out

43:30 ↗ because somebody had a vision of what

43:32 ↗ was good for a cyclist but it really

43:34 ↗ wasn't

43:34 ↗ um good it's actually puts

43:38 ↗ certain cyclists in a um dangerous

43:41 ↗ position because of the interface with

43:42 ↗ the intersections because they just

43:44 ↗ thought everybody should be on the

43:45 ↗ sidewalk and

43:46 ↗ you know so i know it can be imp

43:49 ↗ if it's overlooked uh or someone has a

43:52 ↗ particular idea in mind and they're not

43:53 ↗ thinking

43:54 ↗ about all cyclists they can um make

43:56 ↗ mistake and build things

43:58 ↗ that are not safe so is there any do you

44:01 ↗ have any

44:02 ↗ way of parsing that or is that something

44:04 ↗ that

44:05 ↗ is beyond scope um for this policy

44:10 ↗ yes you can parse them out and we

44:11 ↗ actually do that in the mobility master

44:13 ↗ plan

44:13 ↗ right i know that and that was

44:16 ↗ part of the reason why we didn't want to

44:18 ↗ do it here is because you would can

44:20 ↗ you would typically have competing

44:22 ↗ language if you were included and we

44:24 ↗ also

44:25 ↗ didn't necessarily need to actually go

44:27 ↗ to that level of detail on bicyclists

44:29 ↗ you actually typically want to just say

44:31 ↗ bicycle facilities as part of the

44:33 ↗ complete street so that

44:34 ↗ that can incorporate trails or bike

44:37 ↗ lanes or protected bike

44:38 ↗ planes and any other type of bike

44:40 ↗ facility

44:42 ↗ just because the language that it

44:45 ↗ you often see is bike lane and that

44:48 ↗ really narrows down

44:50 ↗ what you can do if it's you're you're

44:52 ↗ just sticking to a bike lane

44:53 ↗ and so we're actually trying to broaden

44:55 ↗ the language uh to let everybody know

44:57 ↗ that it's not just the bike lane that

44:59 ↗ we're looking for in fact

45:00 ↗ more often than that i'm not looking for

45:02 ↗ a bike lane i'm looking for some type of

45:04 ↗ protective facility

45:07 ↗ and and and that is also the reason why

45:10 ↗ we went into that level of detail in the

45:11 ↗ mobility master plan

45:13 ↗ um because we're going to be

45:14 ↗ implementing it through that anyway

45:19 ↗ can i answer your question cynthia i

45:21 ↗ think yeah i think so okay

45:22 ↗ thanks

45:26 ↗ are there any other discussion items

45:29 ↗ about

45:30 ↗ the complete streets policy update

45:34 ↗ i don't see any and so as steven said

45:37 ↗ earlier we are expected to see this in

45:40 ↗ november

45:41 ↗ so there won't be there's quite a big a

45:43 ↗ gap between the seeing it

45:45 ↗ the last time and seeing the next thing

45:47 ↗ right

45:48 ↗ is is so is that what um the board

45:51 ↗ would like to see is at the november

45:53 ↗ meeting um

45:55 ↗ looking for taking action on the police

45:56 ↗ streets policy draft

46:02 ↗ well for me i uh you know that uh

46:04 ↗ depends also on what else we have

46:08 ↗ necessary to do in that meeting or by

46:10 ↗ the end of the year as long as there's

46:11 ↗ time to do it

46:12 ↗ so if we have something that is i'm

46:15 ↗ getting near

46:16 ↗ finished and we have the whole document

46:18 ↗ in this packet right so we don't have to

46:20 ↗ wait for the november packet

46:22 ↗ to be studying it and working on it so

46:25 ↗ we can more at our

46:26 ↗ at our own pace uh pick this up between

46:28 ↗ now and the november meeting and review

46:30 ↗ it

46:31 ↗ and tabulate our our questions

46:34 ↗ um if we do talk about it at the

46:37 ↗ november meeting do you want us to

46:38 ↗ submit

46:39 ↗ questions and comments uh in the

46:41 ↗ intervening time

46:42 ↗ by email to you or just save them

46:45 ↗ for the meeting uh actually

46:48 ↗ prior to the meeting would be helpful

46:50 ↗ and then i would i'll summarize

46:52 ↗ all the edits at the meeting that

46:55 ↗ now we can be really efficient with the

46:57 ↗ meeting time

47:01 ↗ tom question for you is uh when would

47:04 ↗ you like comics back

47:05 ↗ because i was thinking i would try and

47:07 ↗ review in the next day or two to get it

47:08 ↗ back by friday but if it's uh

47:11 ↗ in general and we're going to be talking

47:12 ↗ about the comments that we have at the

47:14 ↗ next meeting but get

47:15 ↗ them to you ahead of time uh they're

47:18 ↗ good time frame that we should make sure

47:20 ↗ we shoot could we aim for the end of

47:22 ↗ next week

47:25 ↗ so that by october 23rd

47:28 ↗ 23rd right

47:33 ↗ sounds good everybody okay with that

47:35 ↗ everybody's writing that down

47:37 ↗ okay so we will email you stephen our

47:39 ↗ comments and concerns

47:41 ↗ for questions primarily

47:45 ↗ sectional complaints

47:48 ↗ all right so i'm sorry but

47:52 ↗ maybe this is a dumb question i'm not

47:53 ↗ tracking well enough but we would

47:55 ↗ be making a decision in november about

47:57 ↗ what to transmit

47:58 ↗ to council a recommendation council but

48:01 ↗ it would be basically the same

48:03 ↗ content right you don't have more work

48:05 ↗ to do

48:07 ↗ well that depends on your comments

48:08 ↗ besides comments from us but you're not

48:11 ↗ yes so okay thanks

48:16 ↗ okay i think we are closing them

48:20 ↗ so do you have a question oh yeah

48:23 ↗ um sorry really quick so just to clarify

48:26 ↗ um

48:27 ↗ what you were saying earlier um when we

48:29 ↗ started this conversation

48:30 ↗ we're not going to include the complete

48:34 ↗ the full policy in the master plan

48:37 ↗ um in the master plan what we're going

48:39 ↗ to do is sort of reference that there is

48:41 ↗ a policy

48:42 ↗ reference where you can go in code to

48:46 ↗ find the policy but then the policy will

48:48 ↗ only be sort of

48:50 ↗ living in one place correct okay

48:53 ↗ perfect thank you

49:00 ↗ excellent you're ready to move on

49:03 ↗ are you ready to move on stephen i'm

49:05 ↗ ready when you are

49:07 ↗ okay the next item on our agenda is the

49:09 ↗ transportation advisory board 2020 and

49:11 ↗ 2021

49:12 ↗ schedule and by golly we go back to

49:15 ↗ stephen to do our senior transportation

49:17 ↗ planner

49:18 ↗ so actually for this next item um i'm

49:21 ↗ actually

49:21 ↗ going to introduce our new

49:22 ↗ transportation manager

49:24 ↗ john mortensen and ask him to go over

49:27 ↗ the schedule with the board

49:28 ↗ he's going to be irregular at our

49:30 ↗ meetings now and so i figured this would

49:31 ↗ be a great opportunity

49:32 ↗ to contact with the board um about our

49:36 ↗ work

49:37 ↗ welcome john all right well thanks for

49:39 ↗ having me here at your meeting

49:41 ↗ as steven mentioned i've replaced curt

49:44 ↗ as the

49:44 ↗ transportation engineering manager and

49:47 ↗ so i'll be attending these meetings

49:50 ↗ all of them and so we're going to talk

49:53 ↗ about the remainder of the 2020 schedule

49:56 ↗ and the 2021 schedule and i'm gonna

49:59 ↗ share my screen because i pulled up the

50:02 ↗ part from the agenda

50:04 ↗ and let me know if you guys can see this

50:07 ↗ okay all right and i i went down here to

50:11 ↗ the bottom

50:12 ↗ so that way we could talk about next

50:14 ↗ november

50:15 ↗ we've got a meeting currently scheduled

50:17 ↗ for november 23rd

50:19 ↗ and so i did want to bring up that is

50:21 ↗ the monday before thanksgiving if we

50:23 ↗ want to talk about moving it or leave it

50:25 ↗ on that date

50:27 ↗ but the the items for that agenda

50:30 ↗ are the 2021 work plan which we'll talk

50:33 ↗ about a little bit

50:34 ↗ here in a couple minutes and the rest of

50:38 ↗ the complete streets

50:39 ↗ policy update that steven just went over

50:43 ↗ and then we could also talk about

50:45 ↗ whether we wanted to have a december

50:47 ↗ meeting

50:48 ↗ and if we did what we would want to talk

50:49 ↗ about

50:52 ↗ and so i guess at this point i'll just

50:56 ↗ bring up the question do we want to keep

50:58 ↗ the date of november 23rd

51:00 ↗ or which is the monday before

51:02 ↗ thanksgiving or

51:03 ↗ try and look for an alternative date

51:11 ↗ for me since we're not traveling

51:12 ↗ anywhere thanksgiving this year

51:14 ↗ uh it works for me

51:16 ↗ [Music]

51:19 ↗ yeah that's what i was gonna say since

51:20 ↗ we're home

51:22 ↗ just canceled our trip so

51:26 ↗ i'm a solid maybe but if we're doing it

51:28 ↗ by zoom that

51:30 ↗ helps

51:34 ↗ yeah would agree with cynthia's that uh

51:38 ↗ having a if it's an online meeting it is

51:41 ↗ much easier to work into

51:42 ↗ whatever schedule will be that week and

51:44 ↗ it is not like most

51:46 ↗ thanksgiving weeks and uh when you do

51:49 ↗ ask though you don't um

51:51 ↗ you don't yet have an alternative for us

51:53 ↗ to consider if we did move it from that

51:55 ↗ date

51:58 ↗ or do you it would likely be the

52:01 ↗ either tuesday or wednesday the week

52:03 ↗ before um

52:10 ↗ 17th or 18th

52:14 ↗ both of those are open for me if we do

52:17 ↗ decide yeah the week before then the

52:19 ↗ 17th works the 18th doesn't

52:22 ↗ okay plus one on that it's exact same

52:24 ↗ thing for me

52:26 ↗ yeah 17th workout freak don't do the

52:28 ↗ 23rd

52:30 ↗ how about the 19th thursdays tend to be

52:33 ↗ easier

52:34 ↗ to schedule thursday works for me as

52:37 ↗ well just not the tuesday

52:39 ↗ not the wednesday tom

52:42 ↗ the 19th thursday

52:48 ↗ yeah the 19th should work also cynthia

52:52 ↗ did you

52:52 ↗ vote good okay 17th

52:56 ↗ 19th or 23rd just get to us

53:00 ↗ um as possible i would prefer to have it

53:03 ↗ the week before

53:04 ↗ i'll say is anybody else like me that

53:05 ↗ they'd prefer to have it the week before

53:07 ↗ the thanksgiving week

53:10 ↗ not two of us

53:16 ↗ okay we'll leave it to you guys to

53:18 ↗ finalize that because i know you have to

53:19 ↗ schedule it around a bunch of other

53:20 ↗ things

53:21 ↗ but uh and maybe if you can move it up

53:23 ↗ to the 19th week

53:24 ↗ yeah and the other end is on december

53:27 ↗ the 21st

53:28 ↗ that's the first week of uh

53:31 ↗ school break or um school district

53:37 ↗ that affects anybody oh

53:40 ↗ the

53:44 ↗ the december meeting is that's a typo

53:46 ↗ it's supposed to be listed the 28th

53:49 ↗ 28th oh okay

53:54 ↗ let's does that does that date work for

53:57 ↗ everyone

53:59 ↗ it's your birthday

54:06 ↗ but you can't move you can't move it

54:08 ↗ around me but um

54:11 ↗ let's see if we could not do it between

54:14 ↗ christmas and year that would be

54:16 ↗ ideal not that we're going to be

54:17 ↗ traveling anywhere most likely but

54:19 ↗ um just you know you forget what day of

54:22 ↗ the week it is and

54:25 ↗ especially if it's your birthday this is

54:27 ↗ the week between christmas

54:28 ↗ and new year's day we'll all be

54:30 ↗ celebrating so

54:32 ↗ this is the weekend christmas and new

54:33 ↗ year's is off and computers are off for

54:36 ↗ uh

54:39 ↗ to talk about kind of the agenda and

54:41 ↗ whether or not we

54:42 ↗ actually want to keep that meeting

54:43 ↗ because that was something that

54:46 ↗ the board had decided last year is

54:47 ↗ actually not to have the meetings in

54:49 ↗ november and december because of the

54:51 ↗ proximity to the holidays we had no idea

54:54 ↗ what we're

54:54 ↗ in store november up a week

54:57 ↗ we could move december possibly up a

54:59 ↗ week if we needed to have that meeting

55:03 ↗ well john tell it like it is do we have

55:06 ↗ to have a december meeting are we going

55:07 ↗ to pay

55:08 ↗ are we going to pay later pay it now or

55:10 ↗ pay later well

55:12 ↗ i i think we'd be fine skipping it

55:16 ↗ the number one reason i could see to

55:17 ↗ have one is to throw a birthday party

55:19 ↗ but

55:20 ↗ i think that's outside the scope of the

55:22 ↗ tab

55:23 ↗ i have i do have friends

55:25 ↗ [Laughter]

55:30 ↗ i do have a question yes and maybe you

55:33 ↗ cover this

55:34 ↗ already um 50 chance of everything i

55:36 ↗ asked you already covered

55:38 ↗ uh steven you know i've mentioned this

55:39 ↗ before i just want so we're talking

55:41 ↗ about the work plan

55:43 ↗ and this work plan like i what i'm not

55:45 ↗ clear on i'm seeing this on each of

55:46 ↗ these dates um

55:49 ↗ what is there to talk about because

55:53 ↗ we don't like who sets our work plan

55:55 ↗ like the

55:56 ↗ the needs of what has to be decided sets

55:58 ↗ our work plan

55:59 ↗ council has asked us to provide

56:02 ↗ recommendations so they should obviously

56:04 ↗ be buying into what they want

56:07 ↗ recommendations about

56:08 ↗ so um i'm i'm just trying to figure out

56:12 ↗ what exactly is to be discussed and

56:14 ↗ decided

56:15 ↗ on the work plan

56:20 ↗ for the work plan i mean a lot of 2021

56:22 ↗ is already

56:24 ↗ figured well mostly figured out

56:27 ↗ pending anything else happening next

56:30 ↗ year

56:31 ↗ um so the schedule um that we'll talk

56:34 ↗ about in a minute

56:35 ↗ at least the topics that our staff is

56:38 ↗ kind of

56:39 ↗ map that out the best we can in

56:40 ↗ accordance with

56:42 ↗ how or when we think we could bring

56:44 ↗ those topics to eventually to city

56:46 ↗ council

56:47 ↗ and so we've planned it accordingly for

56:50 ↗ the board to discuss prior to taking

56:52 ↗ those topics to city council

56:54 ↗ with that said throughout any time of

56:57 ↗ the year city accounts can ask

56:59 ↗ um a board to make for any type of

57:02 ↗ feedback

57:03 ↗ on any other topic that's not on the

57:05 ↗ schedule so that's why we're not

57:07 ↗ overly you know adding so much to

57:11 ↗ each month is because we want to leave a

57:13 ↗ little bit of buffer

57:14 ↗ and likely the schedule will change

57:16 ↗ throughout the year as we kind of go

57:17 ↗ through each of the topics and

57:19 ↗ and things kind of get moved around i

57:22 ↗ guess i'm sort of

57:23 ↗ it doesn't sound like we need a tab

57:25 ↗ meeting to set the tab

57:27 ↗ work plan that gets set that's driven by

57:29 ↗ processes outside of

57:31 ↗ this group's uh purpose i mean

57:34 ↗ we we still have to we still i'm sorry

57:36 ↗ and we still have to

57:38 ↗ discuss the topics um before the

57:41 ↗ recommendation is or some type of

57:45 ↗ draft is sent to the mayor who

57:48 ↗ eventually approves it

57:49 ↗ approves our work plan correct

57:53 ↗ so i'm just saying how much input do tab

57:55 ↗ members have into the work plan it

57:56 ↗ sounds like the work plan is driven by

57:58 ↗ the things that need to be decided most

58:01 ↗ of it is but we can still

58:02 ↗ take board feedback on the type of items

58:06 ↗ they

58:06 ↗ need to see because yes we have 2021

58:09 ↗ kind of mapped out but as we go through

58:11 ↗ each of the topics

58:13 ↗ maybe you're going to need an extra

58:14 ↗ meeting on one type of

58:16 ↗ item or maybe you need you know to

58:19 ↗ supplement our transit

58:20 ↗ system discussions maybe you need a a

58:23 ↗ meeting where we have a presentation

58:25 ↗ from

58:25 ↗ metro and some transit staff i'll get

58:27 ↗ you okay so

58:28 ↗ there's there is some flexibility in

58:30 ↗ there so i was wondering if

58:32 ↗ the council has a meeting november we

58:34 ↗ meet after that

58:35 ↗ answer or discuss any questions that

58:37 ↗ they might have that would be

58:39 ↗ part of the purpose of the november

58:40 ↗ meeting and then if you don't

58:43 ↗ cover that in november maybe there's not

58:45 ↗ the need to meet in december

58:47 ↗ and then in january

58:50 ↗ potentially

58:55 ↗ and and you know we're we're discussing

58:58 ↗ the work plan tonight

59:00 ↗ and we still have plenty of time to do

59:02 ↗ that so i don't

59:04 ↗ know that will there but as john said i

59:06 ↗ don't know that there's going to be a

59:07 ↗ need for december meeting unless

59:09 ↗ tom it kind of gets to that situation

59:11 ↗ where city council has several questions

59:14 ↗ which we can always address in january

59:16 ↗ as well

59:21 ↗ okay so i'm sorry

59:26 ↗ i have another question tom's like i

59:28 ↗ have never or john is wondering if he's

59:29 ↗ ever gonna actually get to the work plan

59:31 ↗ um

59:32 ↗ but uh the other question so um

59:36 ↗ as far as membership of our advisory

59:40 ↗ i noticed it wasn't on the agenda so is

59:42 ↗ that something

59:44 ↗ because who knows maybe in december

59:46 ↗ we're having and

59:47 ↗ welcome to the advisory board party i

59:49 ↗ don't know but

59:50 ↗ just wondering um sort of what that's

59:54 ↗ looking like or if we are going to talk

59:56 ↗ about it later in the agenda

59:58 ↗ uh i was going to talk about later uh

1:00:00 ↗ when we get to the staff report so

1:00:01 ↗ i'll have a little more information on

1:00:03 ↗ that okay thank you

1:00:06 ↗ okay so i switched our screen over to

1:00:08 ↗ show the

1:00:09 ↗ tentative 2021 tab schedule

1:00:13 ↗ and the first item up in mid-january is

1:00:16 ↗ a special board meeting for

1:00:17 ↗ board training that we'll have

1:00:21 ↗ and then after that the big push

1:00:24 ↗ is for the transportation improvement

1:00:27 ↗ program update

1:00:28 ↗ and i i should back up a little bit

1:00:31 ↗ when stephen is talking about the

1:00:33 ↗ implementing

1:00:34 ↗ implementing the mmp he had a really

1:00:38 ↗ good slide that showed

1:00:39 ↗ basically what this table or this

1:00:42 ↗ web page shows in a little bit more

1:00:46 ↗ slick

1:00:46 ↗ manner so the

1:00:50 ↗ tip update that's the big thing that

1:00:52 ↗ will take us

1:00:54 ↗ to probably about june or so and in

1:00:57 ↗ addition to that

1:00:58 ↗ we've got a little bit of time to talk

1:01:00 ↗ about the complete streets policy update

1:01:02 ↗ in january and then to talk about the

1:01:04 ↗ pedestrian crossing

1:01:06 ↗ guidelines in april and then

1:01:10 ↗ in may we'll continue the pedestrian

1:01:13 ↗ crossing guidelines

1:01:15 ↗ update and begin talking about the

1:01:18 ↗ street standards

1:01:23 ↗ and then that would carry out the street

1:01:26 ↗ standards was carry over to june

1:01:28 ↗ and then july we're showing the transits

1:01:31 ↗ discussing the transit system and to

1:01:34 ↗ talk about traffic calming

1:01:35 ↗ and to continue those two topics through

1:01:38 ↗ september

1:01:39 ↗ and also in september add in more street

1:01:42 ↗ standards updates

1:01:44 ↗ and then a year from now

1:01:48 ↗ talk about the 2022 work plan and

1:01:52 ↗ continue

1:01:53 ↗ talking about the street standards

1:01:54 ↗ update and then in november

1:01:58 ↗ finish talking about the or continue

1:02:00 ↗ talking about the 2022

1:02:02 ↗ board work plan and reviewing the

1:02:05 ↗ mobility master plan

1:02:07 ↗ and then the same thing for the december

1:02:10 ↗ meeting if

1:02:11 ↗ we have that next year we've got a

1:02:14 ↗ a couple things that are

1:02:18 ↗ listed here for additional topics they

1:02:20 ↗ could be requested by the board at any

1:02:22 ↗ time

1:02:23 ↗ which would be updates from metro and

1:02:26 ↗ found transit

1:02:27 ↗ coordination with the schools

1:02:30 ↗ the trail system update and the

1:02:34 ↗ transportation demand management update

1:02:37 ↗ and then

1:02:39 ↗ we've thought ahead of the 2022

1:02:42 ↗ to talk about transits some more

1:02:45 ↗ continue updating the

1:02:47 ↗ street standards because that's

1:02:48 ↗ something as stephen mentioned we lasted

1:02:50 ↗ in 2010

1:02:51 ↗ we're going to start doing every year

1:02:53 ↗ now which is a good practice to do

1:02:55 ↗ talk about high capacity transit and

1:02:58 ↗ a neighborhood improvement program

1:03:00 ↗ proposal and

1:03:02 ↗ talk about the city's concurrency

1:03:04 ↗ management system

1:03:07 ↗ and so with the that are there any

1:03:09 ↗ comments or questions

1:03:10 ↗ over the 2021

1:03:13 ↗ transportation advisory board schedule

1:03:25 ↗ i'm not seeing anyone for me anybody

1:03:30 ↗ i like how we have um what looks like

1:03:33 ↗ some momentum

1:03:34 ↗ on topics with repeated and successive

1:03:37 ↗ meetings

1:03:38 ↗ talking about one topic uh in a monthly

1:03:41 ↗ fashion

1:03:43 ↗ let's just hope we're going to be able

1:03:44 ↗ to stick to this meeting schedule this

1:03:46 ↗ last year was so difficult but this

1:03:48 ↗ looks great

1:03:52 ↗ thanks

1:03:55 ↗ and and and so the board knows i

1:03:58 ↗ added the complete streets policy for

1:04:00 ↗ january assuming

1:04:01 ↗ with the the assumption that potentially

1:04:04 ↗ november and december might get

1:04:06 ↗ cancelled so it was

1:04:07 ↗ that would probably go away if we do

1:04:09 ↗ talk about this in november

1:04:17 ↗ that's good i think uh that does it for

1:04:19 ↗ the um

1:04:22 ↗ what was that 20 21 schedule you all

1:04:24 ↗ done john

1:04:26 ↗ i am thank you okay thank you so much

1:04:28 ↗ and thank you for being here it's really

1:04:30 ↗ fun to have you

1:04:31 ↗ in this capacity i've always loved

1:04:33 ↗ working with you

1:04:35 ↗ before and it's fun to have you sitting

1:04:36 ↗ beside us here

1:04:39 ↗ and so now for the um rest of the

1:04:42 ↗ meeting we have

1:04:43 ↗ a couple things one was that we bumped

1:04:45 ↗ the approval of the minutes

1:04:47 ↗ of our august and september meetings to

1:04:50 ↗ a later time in the meeting to see if

1:04:51 ↗ marisol

1:04:52 ↗ another member was going to show up and

1:04:55 ↗ she

1:04:55 ↗ has not yet and so i'm going to look

1:04:59 ↗ again to stephen

1:05:00 ↗ um because he knows more about our

1:05:02 ↗ membership and

1:05:04 ↗ quorum requirements and when we take

1:05:07 ↗ action on the approval of minutes it's

1:05:08 ↗ one of those things can we do that

1:05:10 ↗ tonight we would need to postpone the

1:05:13 ↗ approval of the minutes until the next

1:05:15 ↗ meeting okay well then that's what we'll

1:05:17 ↗ do

1:05:18 ↗ we gave it a try thank you stephen okay

1:05:21 ↗ so then we'll move into the next section

1:05:23 ↗ of the

1:05:23 ↗ the meeting our reports and first on

1:05:26 ↗ that is the staff report

1:05:27 ↗ return to stephen for that go ahead

1:05:31 ↗ great thank you um for the staff report

1:05:34 ↗ tonight

1:05:35 ↗ the first item is actually a request

1:05:38 ↗ from the executive office for the board

1:05:40 ↗ to comment

1:05:41 ↗ on the recovery task force

1:05:44 ↗ or quote for the pandemic the ask is

1:05:48 ↗ that a board identified tasks or

1:05:51 ↗ um or tasks that the city can accomplish

1:05:54 ↗ between

1:05:55 ↗ january and june of next year to further

1:05:58 ↗ the road to recovery

1:05:59 ↗ and they're asking for feedback before

1:06:01 ↗ january 8th

1:06:03 ↗ so another reason to meet next month

1:06:06 ↗ so that would be an item we can add to

1:06:08 ↗ the agenda for discussion

1:06:10 ↗ um there is a youtube video for the last

1:06:12 ↗ recovery

1:06:13 ↗ task force meeting that it might be

1:06:16 ↗ interesting to

1:06:17 ↗ to watch um to kind of give you ideas

1:06:19 ↗ but what i'll do is i'll

1:06:21 ↗ bring um some staff ideas for

1:06:25 ↗ for at least to start the discussion for

1:06:27 ↗ the board

1:06:28 ↗ and then we'll take any feedback you

1:06:30 ↗ have and bring that back to the

1:06:32 ↗ executive office

1:06:33 ↗ to give to the recovery task force

1:06:36 ↗ stephen is this um is this related to

1:06:39 ↗ the

1:06:40 ↗ meeting in november with the task force

1:06:43 ↗ yes thank you for the reminder so

1:06:44 ↗ um as part of that the chairs

1:06:48 ↗ of each of the boards and commissions

1:06:49 ↗ have been invited to

1:06:51 ↗ a joint meeting with the recovery task

1:06:53 ↗ force in

1:06:55 ↗ november 12th to kind of help start

1:06:57 ↗ those conversations but they're still

1:06:59 ↗ asking all the boards to

1:07:01 ↗ have these this item on their agendas

1:07:02 ↗ for their next meetings for discussion

1:07:05 ↗ so this is just kind of a heads up that

1:07:07 ↗ um

1:07:08 ↗ for our november meeting we'll have this

1:07:10 ↗ on the agenda

1:07:12 ↗ and to think about i think kind of think

1:07:14 ↗ about it

1:07:15 ↗ in terms of what we want to say as part

1:07:17 ↗ of the

1:07:18 ↗ chastities advisory board any questions

1:07:21 ↗ on that

1:07:23 ↗ actually okay the other item is

1:07:26 ↗ john um our new transportation manager

1:07:28 ↗ who will be probably a regular for our

1:07:30 ↗ meetings

1:07:32 ↗ i already introduced them so i won't

1:07:34 ↗ talk too much but i'm happy to

1:07:37 ↗ see john kent uh kind of advance to the

1:07:41 ↗ manager position and and kind of be part

1:07:44 ↗ of our team here at the board

1:07:46 ↗ the update for the public works director

1:07:49 ↗ is that hiring process is underway we

1:07:52 ↗ had

1:07:53 ↗ interviews last friday and so we're

1:07:56 ↗ keep waiting to hear back to see what

1:07:58 ↗ the next step is on uh follow-up

1:08:00 ↗ interviews

1:08:01 ↗ um to kind of conclude that process but

1:08:03 ↗ the idea is

1:08:04 ↗ that we'll have a new director selected

1:08:06 ↗ i think by the end of this month

1:08:08 ↗ i believe and potentially on board by

1:08:11 ↗ december

1:08:11 ↗ is the hope at the latest

1:08:15 ↗ and then for board recruitment um

1:08:19 ↗ this originally we were going to start

1:08:21 ↗ recruitment this month

1:08:23 ↗ in conjunction with recruitment for the

1:08:25 ↗ new environmental board that's

1:08:26 ↗ that's coming up but that process was

1:08:29 ↗ a little was postponed a little bit so

1:08:32 ↗ right now we're looking at starting

1:08:34 ↗ recruitment in early november i've

1:08:36 ↗ already started to reach out to people

1:08:38 ↗ to kind of gauge interest out in the

1:08:40 ↗ community

1:08:41 ↗ so if you know of anybody that might be

1:08:43 ↗ interested i'd be happy to reach out to

1:08:45 ↗ them as well

1:08:47 ↗ the applications won't be available

1:08:50 ↗ until

1:08:50 ↗ early november at the earliest but

1:08:54 ↗ i'm at least trying to reach out to

1:08:56 ↗ people to to figure out if

1:08:58 ↗ um if what what the interest is in the

1:09:00 ↗ community um

1:09:02 ↗ and then the idea with recruitment in

1:09:04 ↗ november is we would

1:09:05 ↗ push for appointments in december so

1:09:07 ↗ they would start with us

1:09:08 ↗ actually potentially at the december

1:09:11 ↗ meeting depending on when the

1:09:13 ↗ city council meeting is or when the

1:09:16 ↗ mayor

1:09:17 ↗ finalizes the appointments or they would

1:09:19 ↗ join us for

1:09:20 ↗ the training in january which right now

1:09:23 ↗ we're looking at two meetings in january

1:09:25 ↗ one for board training

1:09:26 ↗ um to kind of walk everyone through and

1:09:29 ↗ meet the new members

1:09:31 ↗ and then we'll have our regular meeting

1:09:32 ↗ at the end of january

1:09:36 ↗ i'm talking about this about reviews yes

1:09:38 ↗ and maybe such a does too because she

1:09:40 ↗ asked about it earlier so

1:09:41 ↗ um let me go to sujata first do you have

1:09:43 ↗ a question at all about recruitment you

1:09:45 ↗ just wanted to hear the report

1:09:46 ↗ okay and and my question has to do with

1:09:49 ↗ the youth appointments

1:09:50 ↗ uh do we recruit them just like we

1:09:52 ↗ recruit everyone else or is there some

1:09:54 ↗ kind of method that

1:09:55 ↗ that what do you mean

1:09:58 ↗ well uh you know in the um the way we

1:10:01 ↗ recruit everyone else but

1:10:02 ↗ we uh we send out notices and we ask the

1:10:06 ↗ public

1:10:06 ↗ you know whether you're interested in it

1:10:07 ↗ and you or i might have somebody we know

1:10:10 ↗ who has experience

1:10:11 ↗ and could be an asset on the board but

1:10:14 ↗ when we go to recruit the youth

1:10:16 ↗ um i'm thinking of the new

1:10:20 ↗ resources that our community has for

1:10:23 ↗ instance in the highlands we have a

1:10:25 ↗ highlands youth board of a number of

1:10:27 ↗ leaders who

1:10:29 ↗ could have someone who would like to

1:10:30 ↗ serve the community this way

1:10:32 ↗ and uh i wondered if we could extend an

1:10:35 ↗ invitation to that organization

1:10:36 ↗ and then we have the other um issue

1:10:38 ↗ youth board and those other things

1:10:40 ↗ that's my question absolutely when the

1:10:43 ↗ applications become available i'll send

1:10:45 ↗ a link to everyone

1:10:46 ↗ who you can send it to whoever you want

1:10:49 ↗ for board commission applications anyone

1:10:52 ↗ can apply and

1:10:53 ↗ and to answer your question yes the

1:10:56 ↗ youth recruitment will be

1:10:57 ↗ part of that process it's not just a

1:10:59 ↗ automatic selection from any particular

1:11:01 ↗ group

1:11:02 ↗ it's we i reach out to the career

1:11:05 ↗ counselors at the high school i'll reach

1:11:07 ↗ out to the youth advisory board

1:11:09 ↗ and to anyone else that people suggest

1:11:11 ↗ me

1:11:12 ↗ suggest that i should contact so it is

1:11:15 ↗ just full recruitment for all

1:11:17 ↗ all of them open positions

1:11:23 ↗ and then sujata you add a question about

1:11:26 ↗ the video

1:11:29 ↗ oh this was about the recovery task

1:11:32 ↗ force video i think i

1:11:33 ↗ mentioned that they had a there was a

1:11:35 ↗ youtube video online oh yes

1:11:37 ↗ yes i'm sorry yes i'll sit down

1:11:40 ↗ understand the scope and breadth of

1:11:42 ↗ what they have been discussing or you

1:11:44 ↗ know get the juices flowing

1:11:46 ↗ yes yeah i'll send out the link to the

1:11:49 ↗ latest

1:11:50 ↗ task force um meeting um for everybody

1:11:53 ↗ to watch and

1:11:54 ↗ it i think it's helpful to kind of hear

1:11:56 ↗ everybody's comments of

1:11:57 ↗ what type of information they're looking

1:11:59 ↗ for um at the last meeting they talked

1:12:01 ↗ quite a bit about mobility and just

1:12:04 ↗ you know showing

1:12:07 ↗ what kind of interest uh is in terms of

1:12:09 ↗ like what what does recovery look like

1:12:11 ↗ for

1:12:12 ↗ transit use or what does recovery look

1:12:13 ↗ like for um

1:12:15 ↗ low income population that don't have

1:12:17 ↗ access to any transit or any other means

1:12:18 ↗ to get around so

1:12:19 ↗ um we'll have those discussions november

1:12:22 ↗ and i'll um i'll bring that kind of list

1:12:24 ↗ of

1:12:24 ↗ items from the task force but any um

1:12:27 ↗ items that the staff can come up with

1:12:28 ↗ for us to discuss

1:12:29 ↗ as well okay yeah because the other

1:12:32 ↗ thing i was wondering about is as we're

1:12:33 ↗ going through and starting to think

1:12:35 ↗ through i mean i think when we

1:12:37 ↗ finalized our master plan kind of vision

1:12:40 ↗ for the community and our priorities

1:12:42 ↗ i think those values kind of align with

1:12:45 ↗ maybe and hopefully align with what we

1:12:47 ↗ would have envisioned

1:12:48 ↗ sort of smart recovery for our city

1:12:51 ↗ looking like

1:12:52 ↗ um but i i'm more curious to make sure

1:12:55 ↗ that

1:12:56 ↗ um you know like just kind of thinking

1:12:57 ↗ about like what we did um

1:12:59 ↗ with gilman and closing down gilman so

1:13:01 ↗ there could be you know more opportunity

1:13:03 ↗ for businesses and that sort of thing so

1:13:06 ↗ um as these recovery items are coming

1:13:08 ↗ out is there anything we should be

1:13:10 ↗ thinking about

1:13:11 ↗ as we're looking because i don't think

1:13:13 ↗ economic

1:13:15 ↗ um opportunity was necessarily one of

1:13:19 ↗ our priorities

1:13:20 ↗ um in our master plan but i'm just

1:13:23 ↗ wondering if there are some strong

1:13:24 ↗ recommendations coming out

1:13:26 ↗ of we all want to see our our city

1:13:28 ↗ recover and thrive

1:13:30 ↗ and so if there are any strong

1:13:32 ↗ recommendations coming out

1:13:34 ↗ of that task force just ensuring that we

1:13:37 ↗ know

1:13:37 ↗ that effect you know that could

1:13:39 ↗ potentially affect the tip or whatever

1:13:42 ↗ just knowing what those are so we can

1:13:43 ↗ make sure that we're cognizant of that

1:13:45 ↗ as we're

1:13:46 ↗ thinking through um how we want to

1:13:50 ↗ you know um stack rank our 2021

1:13:53 ↗ kind of budget priorities so it's more

1:13:56 ↗ just kind of timing on that sort of

1:13:57 ↗ stuff

1:13:58 ↗ um because i i i mean again i don't know

1:14:01 ↗ what the level of recommendations are

1:14:03 ↗ but

1:14:04 ↗ um it'd be something to consider

1:14:07 ↗ the so the recovery task force did

1:14:09 ↗ provide recommendations for

1:14:11 ↗ dealing with the pandemic will this next

1:14:14 ↗ set of recommendations will be

1:14:15 ↗ post recovery so how

1:14:18 ↗ what kind of items should the city be

1:14:22 ↗ what kind of items can the city be

1:14:23 ↗ working on post recovery

1:14:25 ↗ um assuming we're now in recovery mode

1:14:28 ↗ starting in january so

1:14:30 ↗ uh well we'll kind of see what

1:14:33 ↗ hoping it is but yes it um

1:14:37 ↗ so we'll have we'll have i guess i will

1:14:39 ↗ have that discussion next month i'll

1:14:40 ↗ send out the link to the taskforce

1:14:41 ↗ meeting

1:14:42 ↗ and also send out the link to the

1:14:43 ↗ recommendations and task force

1:14:44 ↗ previously made to city council

1:14:46 ↗ just to kind of help fill that context

1:14:49 ↗ for you

1:14:54 ↗ and that um if there are no other

1:14:57 ↗ questions

1:14:57 ↗ about recruitment um that concludes the

1:15:00 ↗ staff reports

1:15:04 ↗ okay we're good thank you stephen uh

1:15:07 ↗ stuff you're getting done and i really

1:15:09 ↗ appreciate it now the next

1:15:10 ↗ is the chair report i have no report

1:15:14 ↗ and the next is the youth report and we

1:15:16 ↗ don't have any youth today

1:15:18 ↗ no use report um

1:15:21 ↗ for yourself aren't we all very young

1:15:23 ↗ and hard yeah

1:15:24 ↗ that's right all right i did i spoke to

1:15:28 ↗ you soon

1:15:30 ↗ the youngest in the room counts right

1:15:32 ↗ and young at heart

1:15:34 ↗ so then the next item is the other

1:15:37 ↗ business i think we already talked about

1:15:38 ↗ this but why don't we since it's always

1:15:40 ↗ at the end of the meeting recap the

1:15:42 ↗ possibilities for the november meeting

1:15:44 ↗ and how you intend to

1:15:45 ↗ let us know and when you'll let us know

1:15:47 ↗ when the november meetings

1:15:48 ↗ well so did we did we actually settle on

1:15:51 ↗ trying to push the

1:15:52 ↗ meeting to the prior week okay

1:15:56 ↗ so i'll i'll follow up tomorrow

1:15:59 ↗ actually with um a meeting invite and

1:16:02 ↗ confirm that

1:16:04 ↗ one of those days will work best um for

1:16:06 ↗ us

1:16:07 ↗ and then send out the webex invite

1:16:11 ↗ excellent i think that everybody was

1:16:12 ↗ available that's in the room here on the

1:16:14 ↗ 17th

1:16:15 ↗ and the 19th i think thursdays tend to

1:16:18 ↗ be easiest to schedule

1:16:20 ↗ because there's not a lot of other

1:16:21 ↗ meetings going on so there won't be any

1:16:23 ↗ conflicts with any public meetings going

1:16:25 ↗ on um

1:16:26 ↗ so i'll probably be aiming for that one

1:16:27 ↗ on the 19th

1:16:29 ↗ right good to know and i was just going

1:16:32 ↗ to repeat i think that what we heard was

1:16:33 ↗ we could

1:16:34 ↗ if the 17th and 19th don't work we could

1:16:37 ↗ do

1:16:38 ↗ that monday the 23rd so that wasn't off

1:16:40 ↗ the table it was just

1:16:42 ↗ not his preferred am i correct right

1:16:44 ↗ because we're all going out for a beer

1:16:46 ↗ with you on that day yes no no different

1:16:48 ↗ month to get your mixing

1:16:51 ↗ birthday money and then i'll i'll

1:16:53 ↗ confirm with uh marisol

1:16:55 ↗ to make sure that she's able to attend

1:16:57 ↗ that next meeting as well yes

1:16:59 ↗ yes very good okay well i think that's

1:17:02 ↗ it stephen or john or is there anything

1:17:04 ↗ else

1:17:04 ↗ uh tonight uh

1:17:08 ↗ no that was it just confirming the

1:17:10 ↗ november meeting and

1:17:11 ↗ and um the rest of the work plan

1:17:17 ↗ well if there are no objections i'm

1:17:19 ↗ looking around at the friendly faces

1:17:21 ↗ here and don't see any

1:17:23 ↗ i will adjourn this meeting at 7

1:17:26 ↗ 23. thank you thanks everybody see you

1:17:30 ↗ in november

1:17:30 ↗ thank you everybody thanks steve thank

1:17:35 ↗ you

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