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Transportation Advisory Board - Special Meeting Auto captions

Thursday, August 6, 2020

6:00 PM · 2h 6m
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
Transportation Advisory Board About Created in 2017, this board — yet to be Staff Liaison initiated — will provide additional expertise and Stephen Padua, advice on the City’s transportation system and Senior Transportation Manager goals. Email Membership Regular Members The Transportation Advisory Board will be 2020 – Cynthia Krass comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2020 – Vacant three alternates. Initial terms will be staggered. 2021 – Tom McDonald All members are appointed by the Mayor and 2021 – Nina Milligan subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms 2021 – Kobi Sunday* expire April 30 of the year listed. For more 2022 – Sujata Goel information, see IMC 2.92. 2022 – Vacant 2023 – Vacant 2023 – Marisol Visser
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of June 18, 2020
packet pp.5–7
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 06-18-20 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000]
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4b
July 28 City Council Study Session Report Out, (D)
15 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.11
Staff report:
Public Works Engineering 1775 – 12th Ave NW | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3400 issaquahwa.gov
4c
Review - MMP Letter of Support
Discussion · 15 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.13–248
Staff report:
Number: 2 Author: StephenP Subject: Sticky Note Date: 7/30/2020 4:40:06 PM More photos being added throughout document
4d
Review - MMP Draft Plan and List of Revised Changes, (D)
50 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner
5. REPORTS
5a
Staff Report
5b
Chair Report
5c
Youth Report
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
The next meeting is TBD
0:13 i think you all know where your mute
0:15 button is now because gus so kindly took
0:17 us through that when we first came in
0:18 the room
0:19 uh i also want to mention that it's the
0:22 video on and off button
0:23 and during this meeting it i've seen it
0:26 established in other city meetings that
0:28 if you could stay on video
0:30 as much as you can that'd be great you
0:31 can turn off the video if you have to
0:33 but that way everyone knows that you're
0:35 here and we can interact with you
0:38 when you have a comment or a question
0:41 use the chat window
0:42 and indicate question or comment and
0:44 then i'll call on you
0:46 have a nice queue lined up there and
0:48 stephen can help me with that
0:49 if you put a question in the chat you're
0:52 going to be saying it out loud anyway
0:54 because they have we have people on
0:56 the phone who come in and just listen to
0:58 the meeting and they can't
0:59 see your chat so um it's quicker just to
1:02 say comment or question
1:04 and uh and then when you when you do
1:07 speak
1:08 another reason for the with the audio
1:10 only is to say who you are
1:12 before you start you can say hi this is
1:14 nina milligan
1:15 i have a question about so that would be
1:17 great
1:19 i think those are all the kind of
1:21 technical details sound good to you
1:23 stephen
1:24 i think i'll call the meeting to order
1:28 i'm gonna open up that chat window
1:30 though before i do it
1:35 okay it is 604
1:39 and i am calling to order the
1:42 thursday jul august 6th meeting of the
1:44 transportation advisory board for the
1:46 city of issaquah
1:48 uh stephen can you remind me do i need
1:50 to call the role
1:52 yes please okay
1:56 i'm just going to go through with my
1:57 screen here nina milligan here
1:59 here yes cynthia yes go come on
2:03 say here emma grooby here
2:07 kobe sunday
2:11 you came off mute if i could see you um
2:14 then i
2:14 would also know you were here
2:18 i can see him oh okay good and um
2:22 somebody was here okay let's go to
2:23 maddie mattier
2:27 marisol visser here
2:33 so you have to go here
2:37 okay i think that's it stephen could you
2:40 comment on
2:41 um whether this is a quorum or if it
2:43 needs to be
2:45 you have a quorum
2:50 that's my notes and i'm nothing without
2:52 my notes tonight so you guys all
2:55 bear with me our
2:58 first order of business is the approval
3:01 minutes from our june 18
3:05 meeting did everyone have a chance to
3:07 look at the minutes
3:12 and are there any comments if there are
3:14 go ahead and put it in the chat
3:16 i'll get to you
3:19 and i'm not saying any so i will
3:22 um stephen again it's a roll call vote
3:25 for the minutes too
3:26 okay so i'm going to call in it's yay or
3:29 nay or abstain
3:31 for approving the minutes of our meeting
3:34 dated june 18th
3:35 cynthia
3:41 sorry i'm sorry i was looking for the
3:44 agenda i wish we had the papers
3:46 it's um i'm not doing anything else but
3:48 i do what was the question
3:52 marlon's meeting in june
3:55 hi emma
4:06 well i'm not oh there you are you know
4:08 say um
4:10 not yes when you say hi
4:14 um for me his connection's not very good
4:16 did you get an eye from him stephen
4:20 go ahead and talk now kobe
4:26 not hearing him
4:33 i see a little symbol saying his uh
4:35 internet connection
4:36 is challenged
4:41 he's going to come back i'm going to go
4:42 on and then come back to him okay
4:44 um okay yeah maddie hi
4:49 marissa hi
4:53 and tom's next on my list tom i'm going
4:55 to ask you first that you're here
4:57 you say hi tom i'm here and then would
4:59 you please vote on the minutes
5:01 from june 18. you approve them i am here
5:07 and do you approve the minutes of june
5:10 hi thank you thank you
5:17 and did kobe yeah kobe approving the
5:20 minutes of june 18.
5:32 he says i in the chat can we accept that
5:35 while he works on his microphone
5:38 yeah that's fine okay thank you i'm
5:41 seeing it set to mute
5:43 kobe
5:46 is it working now ah there you are
5:50 i yay kobe
5:54 super duper
5:57 okay so the minutes are approved uh
6:00 unanimously
6:02 the next item on our agenda is
6:05 public comments and before we do that i
6:08 wanted to just spend
6:10 a moment as we start this meeting to
6:14 provide some context for myself and
6:16 anybody else who this might be helpful
6:18 and then we'll go right into public
6:20 comment those this will just take me a
6:22 minute
6:22 but i i i wanted to introduce kind of
6:25 where i was coming from where
6:27 try to summarize where the tab is coming
6:28 from we haven't had a lot of meetings
6:30 this year and i thought it might help
6:31 for the record
6:32 and um and and i also want to give our
6:35 vice chair cynthia press an
6:37 opportunity and cynthia do you want to
6:39 say some words
6:40 first before i say any of my opening
6:42 comments
6:43 you know i'm sorry i had an agenda in
6:45 front of me but i would at some point
6:46 this evening i want to make
6:48 comments about um the study session and
6:52 yes okay yeah i think we will have time
6:54 for that out when we're um when steven's
6:56 talking about that
6:58 um the council meeting that
7:05 that's primarily what i wanted to share
7:07 this evening
7:08 okay good stephen's got made note of
7:10 that and so when he does his
7:12 presentation informational presentation
7:14 on that he can call on you okay well i i
7:16 just wanted to
7:17 um put some context around it this
7:20 meeting that we're having tonight
7:21 uh like i said in our minutes imply we
7:23 had a meeting on june 18th
7:26 and then on july 8th the draft of the
7:29 mobility master plan was email
7:30 distributed to
7:32 the tab the transportation advisory
7:34 board
7:35 now we have even though we've discussed
7:37 and collaborated on many of the pieces
7:39 in the mobility master plan this is the
7:41 first time that we've all been able to
7:42 discuss it as a body
7:44 and to address the draft plan
7:47 prior to the june 18 meeting we met in
7:50 january january 2017
7:52 and in 2019 we met 12 times
7:55 tonight's meeting has four agenda items
7:58 the first one is informational
8:00 and stephen will lead that uh and it's
8:03 an update on the
8:05 plan schedule the next two items on the
8:09 agenda are the city council study
8:11 session
8:11 with cynthia was just referring to and
8:14 then
8:14 a discussion on our behalf on the draft
8:18 plan and stephen's going to walk us
8:21 through a
8:22 list of revised changes now the agenda
8:25 has changed just a little bit
8:27 in that item c which was item c like
8:30 moved to the end and that is the letter
8:32 that the
8:33 transportation advisory board will
8:35 compose this evening as a body
8:37 um to accompany uh this plan on its next
8:40 step
8:42 so before i uh before i get any further
8:45 though i wanted to share
8:46 kind of the way that i'm approaching uh
8:48 this evening's deliberations i'm just
8:50 the chair and you all are the
8:51 experts and i'm reminding myself that
8:55 we're an advisory board we're not a
8:57 decision-making body and it's uh as it
9:00 stated in our governing documents it's
9:02 our job
9:03 to provide expertise and advice i found
9:06 this draft plan somewhat daunting
9:09 but when you put it in that context i
9:11 know i can really be helpful in this
9:13 process and i hope you all feel the same
9:18 the challenge tonight though is that it
9:19 is a milestone for us to take this plan
9:22 and to move it along in the process with
9:24 some sense of closure
9:26 from the tab and what what is that
9:29 package that we're sending along that's
9:30 what we're going to be talking
9:32 about tonight and i'll try
9:35 to develop a message to the city
9:38 administration and the city council with
9:40 all of your help that represents us as a
9:42 group that's that letter
9:43 we'll work on that together later during
9:46 the meeting i'm going to try to listen
9:47 very carefully for things that
9:49 exemplify the consensus that we may have
9:52 about the plan
9:53 and and feel free to be very helpful
9:55 with me on that
9:56 uh everybody will have individual
9:58 opinions uh but then there's a consensus
10:01 that we're looking for and stephen
10:02 i'm sure it's going to be very helpful
10:04 in sussing that out with me
10:06 so anyway that's kind of what we have
10:08 before us um i hope everybody feels
10:10 comfortable and looking forward to this
10:12 project with you
10:13 and unless there's any um any issues i'd
10:16 like to go to public comment
10:20 so stephen i'm going to turn it over to
10:22 you and you can come off mute
10:23 and um because i think you're the host
10:26 and introduce any public comment all
10:28 speakers in public comment have three
10:30 minute limit in any other rules steven
10:32 can convey for yes
10:34 we have one person on the line for
10:36 public comment uh connie marsh you are
10:38 unmuted
10:40 hi i'm connie marsh and i'm assuming
10:43 that you can all hear me fine
10:46 now most of you may not know me
10:49 but i follow the city a lot and there's
10:52 nothing that makes me happier than
10:54 reading a new report
10:56 however i see nina talking
11:00 but i can't hear anything so anyway
11:04 um in this situation i read this report
11:08 and i was
11:09 unable to understand uh
11:13 where it was taking anyone
11:16 and how it was supposed to be used and
11:19 how it was going to be successful
11:21 because
11:22 me in my plan loving brain
11:25 couldn't understand it so well i think
11:28 it is
11:28 a good initial draft
11:32 i think it needs a lot of work to become
11:34 shorter
11:35 more pointed and actually follow a theme
11:38 through to a conclusion that would be
11:41 helpful
11:41 in transportation in issaquah i did send
11:44 you two things
11:45 i sent you my
11:49 my point of view on how i thought it
11:51 could be reorganized to become more
11:53 sensible and successful and then i also
11:57 sent you a matrix that i had to create
12:00 of all the policies that would
12:03 potentially be changed because i simply
12:05 can't
12:06 understand what this plan
12:09 is going to be doing if it gets adopted
12:13 there are some glaring errors or errors
12:17 uh things that are missing like
12:19 congestion
12:20 there's no particular conversation about
12:22 congestion
12:23 and as i just spent the last three hours
12:26 deep in congestion um
12:29 and the town knows congestion i think
12:33 this document needs to come straight
12:36 forward and talk about how the plan is
12:39 going to help
12:40 or not help with congestion because
12:43 many people just want to get in their
12:45 cars then the last point is we have
12:48 the whole covid thing going on and i see
12:51 urgency in pushing this document
12:54 forward especially in this draft form
12:57 so my suggestion would be to remand this
13:01 back to the tab to give it extensive
13:04 editorial rights so then you could have
13:08 a bunch of different people
13:10 all trying to figure out how to make it
13:12 understandable
13:13 and usable so
13:17 it is now being pushed forward to
13:20 planning
13:20 policy commissions for review
13:24 but a 200 and some page document for
13:27 review is just a tough
13:31 row to hoe there so
13:34 please decide to just save it for
13:37 yourselves
13:38 take a little while longer because
13:39 there's no hurry and
13:41 uh and make it a better document before
13:44 you push it forward
13:45 thank you
13:50 thank you very much connie i appreciate
13:53 that are there any other
13:55 public comments people waiting to speak
13:58 stephen
13:59 i don't see any i don't see any emails
14:03 okay then i am closing public comment
14:07 at 6 16
14:10 and then i will turn over the meeting
14:13 again
14:13 to stephen to for agenda item number one
14:17 mobility master plan schedule
14:20 update thank you stephen
14:23 great thank you uh i'm gonna pull up a
14:26 slide really quick to help
14:28 go through this for an updated schedule
14:33 so it all starts with uh tonight's
14:36 meeting to
14:36 review the draft plan as a board as as
14:40 nana was speaking to following tonight's
14:44 meeting
14:44 this will go to the planning policy
14:47 commission for review
14:48 uh to get their feedback on the plan and
14:51 the policies that are being proposed
14:52 and then september 8th it'll go to city
14:55 council to do two things
14:56 first is to approve a resolution that
14:59 the master plan
15:00 is what what the city is looking for in
15:03 terms of vision and policies and
15:05 should continue as part of the comp plan
15:07 update process
15:09 and the second thing that the city
15:10 council will be doing is adding the
15:11 master plan to the comp plan docket
15:14 and then following that meeting it'll go
15:17 it'll get reviewed as part of the comp
15:20 plan
15:20 update process as for the public hearing
15:22 in october
15:23 and then it will go to city council
15:25 study session for review on november
15:28 and then it'll go to our full
15:31 adoption as part of the comp plan update
15:33 in december
15:37 are there any questions on any of that
15:47 even i see that cynthia has a question
15:49 cynthia come off mute and ask your
15:51 question
15:53 i i just want to make sure i understand
15:55 because i know there was
15:56 a little bit of back and forth um but i
15:58 want to make sure i understand and
16:00 um maybe i'm not the only one that needs
16:02 clarification so
16:03 are we saying that the plan
16:07 mmp won't be finalized until
16:11 the comprehensive plan update is
16:13 finalized
16:14 or are we sending an adopted plan
16:18 to be then inserted into the comp plan
16:21 docket
16:22 is it so i wasn't really clear and
16:24 whether it could be
16:25 it won't be finalized until the comp
16:27 plan is adopted in december
16:28 um just because as part of the comp plan
16:31 review process
16:32 it it's open for review and edits as
16:34 part of the review from the
16:36 planning policy commission but also the
16:37 public hearing process
16:40 thanks so much that means they all
16:44 happen at the same time they still
16:45 comment up into that point
16:48 where it's then moved forward to an
16:50 adopted
16:52 correct okay yeah
16:58 any other questions on yeah stephen i
17:01 don't see any other questions
17:03 and as we move along in the meeting
17:06 i'm just um just a little reminder if
17:08 you have a question or comment
17:10 open up the chat window down in the
17:12 bottom of your screen with a little
17:13 a little voice bubble and that'll open
17:16 up a chat window on the side of your
17:18 screen and then
17:19 you can write in the bottom chatting to
17:21 everyone
17:22 that you have a question or a comment
17:25 and then i'll call on you
17:26 or stephen will and then when we do call
17:28 on you
17:29 remember to say hi this is cynthia grass
17:32 hi this is
17:33 emma groovy you know when you go to
17:35 speak because some some people are
17:36 listening to this
17:38 meeting and not seeing it so it's little
17:41 reminders
17:42 okay i'm going to turn it back to steven
17:44 for agenda item
17:46 uh b if you're ready for that the july
17:48 28 city council study session report
17:51 yes so for this it's my video of all my
17:55 videos now
17:56 uh for this item i'm just going to
18:00 give a quick update uh just from my
18:02 perspective for the city council study
18:04 session and then i'm going to turn it
18:05 over to cynthia nida to kind of give
18:07 their thoughts on what they thought of
18:09 this study session
18:12 overall i thought the study session went
18:14 really well with city council last week
18:15 they
18:17 are taking a lot of
18:20 what the tab has put forward with the
18:21 master plan and
18:23 they like a lot of the ideas and the
18:25 changes and policies moving forward with
18:27 the master plan
18:28 it gave a lot of feedback for edits that
18:30 we're still working towards
18:32 and a lot of that we're still working
18:34 through which is why we didn't weren't
18:36 able to provide an
18:36 updated draft on the master plan for
18:38 today's meeting but
18:40 we at least wanted to provide the
18:42 comments or
18:43 the locations that we were making
18:45 changes as you were kind of going
18:46 through the document
18:48 um so now i mean overall
18:52 we'll be making a lot of structure and
18:54 organizational
18:55 changes so that it's a little bit easier
18:57 to understand one of the big comments
18:59 um as you heard from public comment is
19:01 we need to make it a little bit shorter
19:03 um so that people can digest it a little
19:05 bit easier
19:06 so we're working on that i'll turn it
19:09 over to nina and cynthia now to kind of
19:11 give their perspective
19:12 thank you stephen uh that was great yeah
19:15 cynthia this
19:16 is a good place for you to um provide
19:18 the comments you were
19:19 mentioning earlier and you can go first
19:21 if you like
19:23 hi this is cynthia krass and i was in
19:25 the council study session
19:26 um supporting nina as the vice chair of
19:29 this board
19:30 um i thought it was a really good
19:33 chance to step back you know we had so
19:35 much disruption that we've kind of
19:37 forgotten
19:38 obviously the consultants and stephen
19:39 have done all the heavy lifting
19:41 but we really did a lot of work and um
19:44 it was kind of a good chance to reflect
19:47 and
19:47 it was through their comments that i
19:50 had that chance to reflect and i wanted
19:52 to share some of this then with you
19:54 for me one of the things i asked even
19:55 when he talked about me serving on this
19:57 board is i said
19:58 i'd be interested in serving in an
20:00 advisory board if the body being advised
20:02 is interested in advice
20:04 i didn't i've seen it where it doesn't
20:06 really work that way and i wasn't
20:07 interested in that and
20:09 i really felt like they were interested
20:12 in the work that we did they took it
20:14 very very seriously
20:15 um and you know i just kind of left with
20:17 a warm fuzzy and i just wanted to share
20:19 i took some notes um
20:21 let's see councilman nina has been on
20:24 council if i'm not mistaken and
20:26 understands and knows a lot of those
20:27 folks better than i
20:28 um i i'm really a relative newcomer i
20:31 don't know anybody
20:33 uh but council member uh dee michelle
20:36 talked about the guiding principles
20:37 specifically she called those out as
20:39 being
20:39 really good councilmember walsh um
20:43 called out the 19 goals um i don't
20:45 remember how many goals but i wrote in
20:47 my notes 19 goals
20:48 um there what councilmember hunt worked
20:51 on some visioning documents on the
20:53 planning
20:54 um board and she knows how hard that
20:57 work is
20:58 and how much and she really really
21:00 appreciated the the work that we had
21:02 done
21:02 um councilmember walsh mentioned the
21:06 scoring criteria specifically and how
21:08 useful that was
21:10 and um councilmember d michelle
21:13 said about the project evaluation
21:15 criteria it's what's been missing
21:18 and um i really felt like
21:21 this was a body of work that sometimes
21:23 you work on these plans and they just
21:25 seem like a bunch of stuff that sits on
21:27 a shelf and
21:27 does it really have meaning but um this
21:29 work really hasn't been done before so
21:31 kudos to
21:33 to steven um and to the consultants that
21:35 have done like i said the heavy lifting
21:37 but we really did a lot of work and we
21:39 really slogged through
21:40 those guiding principles the scoring
21:42 criteria you know i was sort of
21:44 relying on recent memory kind of
21:45 remembering that so a lot of stuff
21:47 happened that i didn't really
21:49 you know get a chance to discuss we
21:50 didn't get a chance to discuss as a
21:52 group
21:52 but then this meeting helped me remember
21:54 how much we did do
21:56 and and we slogged through a lot of
21:59 content
21:59 and um it became the basis by which
22:03 a lot of the work um you know to draft
22:05 the document was but anyway i
22:07 i really was encouraged um by their
22:10 response
22:11 um they i think the thing is frankly
22:13 again i don't know
22:14 uh the council at all i was pretty darn
22:17 impressed
22:18 with their level of um
22:21 uh detail that they had i mean they
22:23 spent time with this this is a
22:25 you know they kind of i don't know how
22:26 many of these documents they have to
22:28 read and how many of these study
22:29 sessions they have to go to
22:30 there was another this was a 90-minute
22:32 session and there was another 90-minute
22:33 session i think about jails right after
22:35 and every time i meet with council
22:37 members of any kind i i'm always
22:39 kind of um humbled by the breath that
22:41 they have to cover
22:43 and when they go to the this level of
22:44 detail on just one of the many things
22:47 they're responsible for frankly i
22:48 i'm fairly impressed so anyway i i
22:51 thought it was good there were lots
22:52 lots and lots of little details um that
22:55 you know that needed some some
22:57 addressing but i just i wanted to share
22:59 that with you guys because
23:00 uh i thought it was uplifting
23:06 thanks
23:08 excellent that's a great summary uh
23:11 cynthia and
23:12 i will uh supplement it um you know by
23:15 first
23:15 agreeing with everything you said and
23:17 then not only was i
23:19 impressed with their work they didn't
23:21 surprise me like you said i already know
23:22 them
23:23 but i was reassured
23:26 that at their level of evaluation and
23:30 analysis which was quite deep
23:33 that they weren't really worried about
23:36 this this was on the right track it had
23:38 things that needed to be fixed and they
23:39 were sure to say it and they
23:41 knew that it would have more touches
23:43 after this but they felt it was very
23:45 much on the right track and and
23:47 so that was very reassuring because we
23:49 hadn't seen it yet we didn't know
23:50 how does this all come together and and
23:52 to have these policy wonks
23:54 say that i thought was very reassuring
23:56 um a couple things that i might point
23:58 out of specifics that jumped out at me
24:01 um that stephen is working on putting in
24:03 but i'm um
24:04 just wanted to share them was that
24:09 city administrator wally bob kowitz had
24:11 mentioned that
24:12 where we had a five-year um come back to
24:14 it in five years because of all the
24:16 dynamics in today's
24:18 world and the draftness of this that
24:21 coming back
24:22 sooner for maybe an annual review while
24:25 we shake out some of the big changes in
24:27 the world may be
24:28 most done due to covid
24:32 also stacy goodman had pointed out
24:34 something that cynthia had noticed also
24:36 is about
24:37 the statement about the station location
24:40 which had not been determined and
24:42 shouldn't be in the document so that was
24:43 really a good call
24:44 out um councilmember d michelle
24:48 had pointed out that she thought there
24:49 could be more about the environment in
24:51 there
24:52 uh council member hunt
24:55 was and he wasn't the only one who was
24:57 saying something about
25:00 i don't see enough about implementation
25:02 i wanted a little bit more about that
25:05 and then uh councilmember martz
25:09 uh was one of many who had said we need
25:12 more about funding
25:14 in here that's the big issue uh we don't
25:17 have enough in here about funding and
25:19 um the last one
25:22 that i was going to mention was that
25:26 several council members pointed out that
25:29 for transit that we need to look more
25:33 to ourselves for providing the kind of
25:35 local transit
25:36 that our people need to get around as
25:38 aqua highlands and how can this plan
25:40 help support local transit not just
25:43 regional transit or the things that are
25:45 provided by metro and south transit
25:47 so those were kind of my um i was really
25:50 glad to hear those i thought they were
25:52 helpful comments we have a question from
25:56 suyata are you ready to go so you have
25:58 to unmute yourself
26:00 hi uh sujata goyal i just had a question
26:03 my question was specifically um just
26:06 actually about
26:07 what stephen was saying was that there
26:09 were so in the
26:10 plan that was sent to us with those
26:12 annotated comments or sticky notes
26:15 so just to clarify those um sticky note
26:17 comments are
26:18 from the council session so that is that
26:21 what
26:22 is that the input that the council
26:24 provided yes it includes the council
26:27 input for all the
26:28 areas that they were looking to make uh
26:30 look for edits but also includes
26:32 feedback
26:33 from uh nina and cynthia as well as
26:35 staff so it's kind of a collection of
26:37 all the comments that we're working on
26:38 right now
26:38 okay thank you
26:46 i do not see any more questions or
26:49 comments
26:50 about this part of the agenda which is
26:53 the council study session
26:55 given another second anybody else have a
26:58 comment or a question about the city
26:59 council study session
27:02 not seeing it if you see one pop in
27:05 steven in the next second go ahead and
27:07 grab it but uh the next item on the
27:09 agenda is the review of the mobility
27:11 master
27:11 draft plan and the list of revised
27:15 changes this is a discussion item and
27:17 i'm going to turn it back over to
27:18 stephen great thank you
27:21 so originally i didn't have slides for
27:24 this but i realized today that i
27:25 probably should have something on the
27:26 screen for us to walk through
27:29 to help us um so i just put the table of
27:31 contents
27:32 on just a quick slide for us just pulled
27:34 it from the plan
27:35 just to make it easier for our
27:37 discussion tonight so i'm going to share
27:38 that really quick
27:45 and i think what i'm going to do tonight
27:46 is i will walk through each of the items
27:48 explain uh briefly what
27:52 the ongoing changes are for those
27:54 sections and then open the floor
27:55 for feedback from each of you to see if
27:58 there's any specific feedback on these
28:01 sections as we walk through
28:02 does that work for you naida
28:07 it can be but i don't know if i have
28:10 my comments and notes arranged in
28:13 um so i know exactly where they go
28:16 so we can go through this way and then
28:19 maybe do a catch-all at the end
28:21 if we yeah i have a question
28:24 uh on the agenda were we gonna look at
28:26 the letter of support before we got into
28:28 the
28:29 uh master plan yes uh
28:32 so nina had asked that we actually moved
28:34 that's the end of our meeting just so we
28:35 can dedicate a little
28:36 bit more time for that because that
28:38 one's going to require a little more
28:39 discussion
28:40 thanks for bringing it up i forgot to
28:41 mention that beginning
28:46 so for our
28:49 draft plan uh for the first section of
28:51 the executive summary
28:52 we got a lot of feedback on the
28:55 executive firm interested from the
28:56 safety council one of the main things is
28:57 that we're going to be
28:58 reorganizing this to better explain
29:01 what's in the plan itself
29:03 um it does some of that but we need to
29:05 go in a little more detail of
29:07 specifically the policies and the
29:08 actions moving forward what we're trying
29:10 to achieve out of the master plan
29:11 but also insert a robust problem
29:14 statement
29:15 so that people can understand what
29:16 exactly we're trying to solve with the
29:17 master plan itself
29:21 the other part is stronger oh stronger
29:25 language explaining exactly how this
29:26 plan relates to all the other planning
29:28 efforts but also planning documents that
29:29 pre-exist in the city too that's one
29:31 thing that
29:32 city council is clear on that they they
29:35 need a little more information to
29:36 understand that
29:38 so now i'll open the floor or do you
29:41 want or
29:42 did you want me to wait to the end i
29:44 know all right
29:55 i think um sujata has a question at this
29:58 time
30:00 and i think that if you pause at each
30:02 section as you have them bulleted on the
30:04 slide that would be a good idea
30:06 and my um my uh comment earlier meant
30:10 that if you don't know where your
30:12 comment fits
30:13 it's okay just to save it till later
30:16 that will help us
30:17 find it search why don't you go ahead
30:20 and unmute say your name and ask your
30:21 question
30:23 hi sujata goyal um so i have a question
30:26 actually about
30:27 so one of the things was you know the
30:30 the i like the executive summary because
30:32 it was really pithy
30:33 and then um it's it does a good job of
30:35 setting the framework i like the idea of
30:37 including a problem statement but i
30:39 guess
30:40 so some of the that's why i was asking
30:41 who was adding these sticky notes or
30:43 where those comments came from because
30:45 you know one of the things is i can
30:47 understand the desire to
30:50 to connect it more to the other planning
30:52 efforts or acknowledge
30:54 that this plan you know lives in a
30:56 universe with other stuff
30:58 and that was when i was going through it
31:00 that was one of my comments but then as
31:01 i read
31:02 you know 30 pages later 40 pages later i
31:06 was like oh
31:06 we referenced the plans later and so i
31:09 guess
31:10 this is where there's that balance
31:12 between trying to provide all the
31:14 context you can up front
31:15 for what you're doing with
31:19 because there are places in the plan
31:20 where it starts to feel really redundant
31:22 so i almost feel like if you had that
31:24 whole section where you talked about the
31:26 different plans that this will tie to
31:28 in the executive summary and then you go
31:31 into
31:32 it in more detail later that could
31:34 potentially
31:35 feel redundant so i guess that would be
31:38 my only caution but i i mean it was
31:40 funny because when i read it i was like
31:41 oh we need to reference these plans and
31:43 then i read them later and i was like
31:45 okay forget it
31:46 so anyway uh good luck with that
31:49 a little bit balancing that
31:54 great thank you
31:58 any other questions or comments on the
31:59 executive summary
32:03 no seeing none okay i'll move on to
32:07 the introduction plan development
32:09 process
32:12 most of you are already aware with the
32:14 introduction being
32:15 uh the work that the tab has worked on
32:18 the
32:18 what we've but we the process that we
32:21 went through to
32:22 explain uh what the purpose of the
32:25 master plan was
32:27 plan development process encompassed a
32:28 lot of the public process and the
32:30 communication that we had with the
32:31 different stakeholders to
32:33 weigh in on on what's important for our
32:36 community today because that's something
32:37 that's a conversation that
32:39 we haven't really had in a long time for
32:41 transportation so we wanted to make sure
32:42 that
32:43 that was important
32:47 and also include isquad today and future
32:49 growth i mean
32:51 for the first 30 pages it talks about
32:54 the introduction plan development
32:55 process squad future growth i think
32:58 that's where we might cut down a little
33:00 bit more and
33:00 and stick some of that in dependencies
33:02 so we can shorten this plan
33:04 uh quite a bit in general
33:07 we're going to be adding more to the
33:09 climate change section that we heard
33:11 loud and clear from the community but
33:13 also the city council that
33:14 more needs to be inserted in that to
33:16 define what our goals
33:18 need to be but also how this how
33:21 this relates to our greenhouse gas
33:23 emissions goals
33:25 and the reduction of emissions um
33:28 you know when we say a certain action
33:31 what does that mean in terms of
33:32 reduction of
33:33 emissions and just better defining how
33:36 how this relates to the climate change
33:38 and how the changes we want to make are
33:40 actually
33:41 helping us in in the long run the other
33:44 uh big ads in general is adding more
33:46 information about
33:48 our current situation with the copen 19
33:49 pandemic you know
33:51 as nano was speaking to a lot is going
33:54 to be changing and a lot is
33:55 has changed and so we want to be able to
33:58 identify those and address those even
34:00 though
34:01 you know the overall vision and what
34:03 we're trying to achieve
34:05 is going to be the same we are
34:08 wanting to make sure that
34:12 we still recognize that change is going
34:14 to be happening because some of these
34:15 sections are going to be updated right
34:17 away next year once we have
34:19 a better outlook on our our financial
34:22 stance
34:22 for the city but also as a region and
34:24 then we have a better idea of what
34:26 our transit partners might be doing in
34:28 the region so
34:29 we want to make sure that this plan is
34:32 stays updated as we're working through
34:34 on implementation the last thing i would
34:36 add
34:37 that city council thought that was
34:38 important was adding
34:41 additional language on how important
34:43 maintenance is in the consideration when
34:46 prioritizing projects but also in the
34:47 development of project ideas
34:50 um because you know we can propose to
34:54 build a whole bunch of infrastructure
34:55 but if we can't afford to maintain it
34:57 over time
34:58 it's not necessarily the best investment
35:00 anymore and that's that's something that
35:01 the region
35:02 has made sure that's uh important uh
35:05 because they include that as part of the
35:07 project selection for
35:08 regional grants now so we want to make
35:10 sure that's considered for
35:11 as part of this process too um i'll
35:15 take a pause there here i'll pause here
35:17 and and
35:19 obviously you have a question
35:23 uh yes uh kobe sunday um
35:27 it seems like we've heard like we've
35:29 heard a lot of criticism
35:30 about the length of the document um and
35:34 i'm i know it's super difficult to
35:37 manage making sure that we have all the
35:39 the right content in there as well as
35:41 keeping it short and concise
35:44 but it sounds like we're adding a lot
35:45 more than we're taking away
35:47 so i'm wondering if it is still possible
35:49 to cut
35:50 down the document at all or take away
35:52 unnecessary parts or if that's not super
35:54 feasible
35:57 cutting out stuff probably not but
35:59 moving stuff more into the appendices
36:01 and just referencing those from the
36:03 appendices just to make the
36:05 general document it's or the general
36:07 plan itself a little more digestible
36:09 is definitely achievable even with
36:11 adding some of these
36:12 other items thank you
36:16 okay thank you yeah very good
36:19 i want to check in with tom um he says
36:21 his questions answered but
36:23 is it really and are you do you have
36:25 anything tom
36:30 no i think uh steve was addressing some
36:34 of the questions i had related to the
36:35 kova 19 everything from
36:37 funding to availability and the
36:39 uncertainty of what will happen in the
36:41 next year
36:44 that was good no more
36:47 further questions on that yeah okay
36:49 thank you tom
36:50 and i don't have anybody else in the
36:52 queue um
36:54 uh cynthia you want to shake your head
36:55 whether you have anything to say here
36:57 doing okay um i
37:00 i i want to affirm and and support what
37:03 you're saying about the
37:05 appendices being maybe a useful place
37:08 um this this section introduction plan
37:11 development
37:11 and it's a quad today and future growth
37:14 golly
37:14 it is a schlog and uh and then i felt
37:18 when i went out to the appendices i
37:19 thought now wait a minute wasn't i
37:21 talking about this
37:22 it was hard for me to connect all those
37:24 dots it really made for a confusing
37:25 navigation between the two documents
37:28 and frankly by the time i got to the
37:29 appendices i couldn't read it anymore
37:31 but if they're considered as a reference
37:34 material this may be let's go
37:37 and so i really appreciate that
37:39 direction and then
37:40 um stephen did you just talk about all
37:43 three of those things
37:44 introduction plan development and as a
37:46 quad today in future yes
37:47 yeah just because that was the main meet
37:49 before the policies
37:51 and implementation which were the other
37:53 big topics
37:55 um okay so then when you go to policies
37:57 tell us what page we're starting on and
37:58 then give us a
38:00 spiel i don't see any other questions at
38:02 this time uh for policies i believe i'm
38:04 starting from page
38:06 30 from the the draft document
38:09 and for that i mean it would there
38:12 wasn't a whole lot of
38:15 feedback from the the city council on
38:17 changing much of that it was it was more
38:19 adding to the language and make sure
38:21 things were clear as more clarifying
38:23 language
38:24 than actually changing any of the policy
38:26 direction um
38:28 cynthia can you would you confirm
38:31 that that's what we heard yeah this is
38:34 cynthia
38:35 krass i would say that um definitely in
38:37 fact
38:38 i didn't um talk about that in
38:42 in my summary comments that was another
38:44 thing i was really surprised about
38:45 is that um their their comments were
38:48 pretty detailed
38:49 uh and a lot of them were clarifying and
38:51 they wanted stuff added but
38:53 they didn't fundamentally disagree with
38:56 the main thrusts and the direction which
38:58 i think nina alluded to
39:00 as well but yes
39:07 thank you and i have a couple questions
39:10 i have a couple comments and i have well
39:12 first i have some overarching questions
39:14 but if i'm watching the chat window
39:16 anybody has comments or questions
39:19 please say so
39:22 maybe stephen one of the things on my
39:24 mind might help
39:26 to get juices flowing here is that we
39:29 had three main policies that we
39:30 discussed
39:31 this year um let's make sure i say them
39:35 right
39:36 complete streets crossing guidelines and
39:39 traffic calming
39:41 and i kind of found them in the document
39:44 but can you
39:45 better summarize how they
39:49 are in the document sure
39:52 so for the way we're handling complete
39:55 streets so
39:56 for those that remember from
39:59 when our previous discussion on these
40:01 complete streets crossing guidelines and
40:03 traffic coming are separate policies out
40:06 the master plan itself but we address
40:10 them in being that they are actually
40:11 achieving much of the vision
40:13 set in the guiding principles um
40:17 once we once we update them which is one
40:19 of the first steps with implementation
40:21 with the master plan
40:22 and so the idea is with the complete
40:23 streets is we're looking beyond
40:26 just trying to create a facility for all
40:30 the different modes of travel we're
40:31 actually trying to create infrastructure
40:32 that people want to use
40:34 and balancing the demand for the use of
40:38 our roadways because we're limited
40:39 roadways we want to make sure that
40:41 we're using it efficiently and when it
40:43 comes to crossing guidelines
40:44 updating that is is updating multiple
40:47 policies
40:48 on how we make improvements to
40:51 our crossing infrastructure but also the
40:53 design of that crossing infrastructure
40:55 well
40:56 and making sure that that corresponds
40:58 with the land use or the activity
41:00 of where the crossings are going to be
41:03 improved and then when it comes to the
41:04 traffic calming we want to
41:06 expand the tool set that we have but
41:08 also when we want to use it
41:09 and so that was the purpose of you know
41:11 being able to update those policies
41:14 separate from the master plan itself and
41:15 so what we want to do with the master
41:17 plan is make sure that they're tied in
41:19 and addressed but because they're so
41:22 detailed of how we use for
41:24 implementation
41:25 they are used as separate policies and
41:28 does that answer your question
41:30 it begins to answer my question okay so
41:34 when i in looking at these complete
41:36 streets
41:37 um mmp ii uh
41:40 seems like a chapter that has its
41:43 policies
41:43 in it but the other two seemed like
41:47 references as you've just mentioned
41:50 references to some future implementation
41:52 um are these things
41:54 so to what degree is that um policy
41:57 number two
41:58 complete for the complete streets and um
42:02 and then do the crossing guidelines come
42:04 back to us and then become part of this
42:05 document or do they always stay outside
42:07 they keep asking you this question i
42:09 know the
42:10 they always stay outside of the master
42:12 plan just so we can use them separate
42:14 from the master plan
42:19 okay um any other questions
42:22 coming up i always have questions
42:26 at um looking in
42:31 that's anybody i'm going to go ahead and
42:32 ask another question
42:34 uh so jada has a question actually i
42:36 think you sent it to me privately
42:40 oh sorry i don't know how that got
42:41 switched to private i apologize uh yes
42:43 sujate goel i have a question
42:46 um so one of the things in from a
42:48 readability perspective that i think
42:51 um could make it easier is
42:54 um i understand the design it would
42:58 at least for me um it would be easier
43:00 from a readability perspective
43:02 if we could have a table of the policies
43:06 versus and maybe that's one of the
43:08 appendices i honestly lost sight of it
43:10 by the time we got to the appendices
43:12 but um i think just even from up
43:15 from a public knowing and understanding
43:17 perspective or the way
43:20 you're then able to communicate forward
43:22 to you know developers
43:24 or your land use people or your
43:27 plan examiners but if we
43:31 could have it where um instead of
43:35 you know describing it in detail you
43:37 just sort of have a matrix that lists
43:39 all the policies
43:40 um it could it could potentially and and
43:43 stop me if there is actually an appendix
43:45 with the matrix of policies but
43:47 i feel like instead of putting that as
43:48 an appendices but maybe starting the
43:50 chapter with that or
43:52 after a brief introduction could be
43:54 helpful because i was like trying to
43:56 flash through it to try to read it
43:58 and was having some difficulty
44:01 thank you for that uh yes we are are
44:04 actually working on a matrix all the
44:05 policies
44:07 to not only just separate out all our
44:09 policies that we have
44:11 proposed in the master plan but also to
44:13 show the differences
44:14 or at least what's carrying over from
44:16 previous because this is going to be
44:17 replacing the transportation element and
44:19 the comp plan
44:20 which has policies and that's getting
44:22 replaced by this
44:23 and so we're actually going to have this
44:24 matrix to compare two
44:27 and show what what's staying what's
44:29 going on oh
44:30 oh okay so you're going to crosswalk
44:32 those two sets yes
44:34 um okay and then the only and then sorry
44:37 for hugging all the time but then the
44:38 other question i had was
44:41 so there's this notion so we have a set
44:43 of policies
44:44 around complete streets which is
44:47 you know this value around multimodal
44:50 and so i think one of the things that
44:52 continues to sort of
44:54 i guess confuse me about the way we
44:55 unpack the policies
44:57 is we talk about the complete streets
44:59 and that sort of value and vision for
45:01 that
45:01 but then we break it up into the
45:03 individual modes
45:04 so then we say for walking these are our
45:08 policies
45:08 and then for biking these are our
45:11 policies and i guess
45:13 i'm just wondering how
45:16 because they clearly fit together
45:19 somehow
45:20 where if our policy is complete streets
45:22 it includes all those modes
45:24 but so anyway that that gets a little
45:28 confusing for me
45:30 okay i'm not sure why so i apologize
45:35 no i that that's that's helpful thank
45:36 you we'll make sure that
45:39 the language that we're putting in as
45:41 we're making the changes clears that up
45:43 a little bit more
45:49 i see a comment from tom that i'd like
45:52 to welcome you to say
45:54 in the um in the meeting so that people
45:57 who are just listening can hear you tom
45:59 will you share that with rex
46:02 yeah i was uh kind of agreeing with what
46:05 sujata just said as far as
46:06 having a list of the policies up front
46:08 in the simple table
46:10 so you read through them because there's
46:12 kind of a policy there's some
46:13 description some other texts but if you
46:15 have a summary of what they are
46:17 it kind of gives you a preview of what
46:18 you're going to be looking at in that
46:20 section it kind of ties them all
46:21 together
46:22 no way before you get into it okay
46:26 thank you thank you tom nancy
46:30 very good yeah and not uh this would be
46:32 a total rewrite but uh to sujata's point
46:36 somebody had said to me uh that you know
46:39 the table of contents could be the
46:42 guiding principles we're in all these
46:45 things right now we have to look at the
46:47 guiding principle and say
46:49 how is that applied to walking biking
46:52 transit blah blah you know we have to
46:54 kind of leave that through
46:56 when the um so that it's a framework but
47:00 it's not a framework that's really used
47:02 and it's hard to follow and it made it
47:04 hard to evaluate the plan
47:05 but so this is tom i i wouldn't think
47:08 it's a whole rewrite but more
47:10 of this uh insertion of some sections
47:13 that might help
47:14 guide the next um
47:19 because i'm not sure what i'm saying i
47:20 don't think it's a little rewrite i
47:21 think it's adding a little
47:22 application for example table at the
47:24 beginning of the section
47:26 [Music]
47:31 could you remember more on that yeah
47:36 oh okay i was just relating i think more
47:38 to uh
47:39 like the policies if there's a table
47:41 that describes what it's going to be in
47:43 the next section or
47:44 that ties it together i don't think it's
47:46 a rewrite of the document a lot of
47:47 reorganization i think it's more putting
47:50 a summary over table at the beginning of
47:52 a section
47:54 got it okay
47:59 okay but sorry nina but were you saying
48:01 that
48:02 you actually felt that it should be
48:03 reorganized
48:05 by the policy or i mean by the guiding
48:08 principle
48:09 so that i think that you guys were
48:11 talking about two different things
48:13 i yeah i think um i could i can solve
48:16 this
48:16 the um it's just a concept idea
48:20 that would not necessarily be practical
48:22 but in spirit
48:24 that tom spoke to the the purpose of it
48:27 which would be
48:28 how how can we help people ourselves
48:32 included
48:33 see how the policies support the guiding
48:36 principles what kind of
48:37 cross-referencing
48:39 could be available so that you see that
48:41 this addresses
48:43 these guiding principles or something
48:46 yeah
48:48 very creative concept i i liked your
48:50 idea though tom i think that's a oh it's
48:52 something that could be worked in
48:54 i'm not saying anybody else in the chat
48:57 window stephen have you gotten any
48:58 comments or questions privately
49:01 sent to you no nothing else no
49:04 do i try another one i'll try another
49:07 one
49:07 if um if you're ready uh on page
49:11 under walking where we have the four
49:13 tier system
49:16 i wanted to understand better why
49:20 i think i know why but i still might
49:22 disagree
49:24 why streets in three sections
49:27 are would be exempt from the lower speed
49:30 limit to 20 miles per hour for local
49:32 streets
49:35 and this is on page 34 of the
49:38 um of the plan
49:42 on page 66 of the packet under the
49:44 section called walking
49:48 let me pull that up really quick
49:54 it's mp3
50:11 page ah just a second i'm sorry
50:16 page 66 of the packet page 34 of the
50:19 plan
50:23 you're talking about tier four yeah
50:28 oh um it wasn't to say that they're
50:32 exempt it was to say that
50:33 one of the main strategies for the
50:36 residential streets outside of the
50:38 commercial areas of the city is aimed to
50:41 make the
50:42 20 miles per hour the standard speed
50:44 limit
50:47 does that doesn't always apply for
50:51 the commercial areas but that can
50:54 and it wasn't to exempt those areas it
50:56 was just to say for
50:57 the tier four areas the areas outside
50:59 the commercial areas this would be one
51:00 of the main strategies
51:02 for having safer travel
51:06 okay i think then
51:09 that has happened here it says outside
51:12 the central is it called growth center
51:14 old town and issaquah highlands
51:16 neighborhoods
51:17 just by the very phrase um issaquah
51:20 highlands neighborhoods it's saying
51:22 that it doesn't apply to where houses
51:25 are either you know see what i mean
51:27 and then old town isn't just a
51:29 commercial district it's also
51:30 neighborhoods
51:31 and so the two the point that i'm trying
51:33 to make and you can help me with is that
51:36 i would certainly welcome i'm looking at
51:39 lowering all speeds on local streets
51:43 so 20 miles per hour now you could
51:47 say except for in commercial districts
51:50 i don't know why you want them to go
51:52 faster there the city of seattle has
51:54 been slowing its speed limits down on
51:55 all streets
51:57 um all things that are are considered
51:59 smaller local streets
52:01 anyway that's my that's my complaint
52:02 there i wonder if anybody else
52:05 has any comments or no that is
52:08 it's our intention but you're right it's
52:10 not written very well so
52:12 we will rewrite that to make sure it
52:14 reflects exactly what you were saying
52:15 right now
52:16 yeah 20 miles an hour is uh
52:20 pretty slow and be hard to really
52:23 enforce that
52:24 where the natural feel of someone
52:26 driving on a road is going to
52:28 drive kind of the natural feel of
52:31 comfort
52:32 of that road um a lot of streets are
52:35 designed for a speed limit
52:37 to take into account the sight distance
52:39 the crossings
52:41 lights the timing so if you force a
52:45 20 mile an hour uh this could be hard to
52:49 enforce people are probably going to go
52:51 between 25 and 30 what they feel
52:53 comfortable with what that road is
52:54 designed to
52:58 yeah thank you tom uh yeah i agree with
53:00 that completely and
53:01 if if we weren't talking about just the
53:04 local street standard we're not talking
53:06 about collector arterials or any of
53:08 those other ones that
53:11 people want to haul down them uh you
53:14 know issaquah highlands has a lot of
53:15 queuing streets it has parking on both
53:17 sides it has
53:18 multiple crossings everywhere and
53:20 parking along
53:22 these are our streets where people
53:24 should not feel safe driving fast yet
53:26 they do
53:27 and when we've had community complaints
53:30 about
53:31 um speeding the big frustration that
53:34 i've seen over and over again in this
53:36 acquaintance and i'm sure it's the same
53:37 in old town is that
53:39 people say people drive too fast and
53:40 then they go out and put those rubber
53:42 things out there and
53:43 the data comes back and says they're not
53:45 driving too fast they're driving 25.
53:47 well the impression is the 25 is too
53:50 fast
53:51 for these local streets where people's
53:53 homes lots across
53:54 streets it's playing ball you have to
53:58 queue to get by
53:59 those sorts of things and some people
54:01 feel comfortable going
54:03 25 and 30 miles an hour on those streets
54:05 and god i don't know why
54:06 so if you can help balance all those
54:08 comments stephen
54:10 um find a way through that tom made some
54:13 really good points and
54:15 i'm not i'm not arguing with them at all
54:19 yes thank you yeah so maybe the
54:22 thing is to have um
54:25 we read that actually calming items in
54:29 there
54:31 i mean there's to to nina's point there
54:34 are streets that are
54:35 already pre-exist where they're built
54:36 for that speed but we still have the
54:38 higher speed limit of 25
54:40 just as a standard residential street
54:42 but we also to your point tom there are
54:44 residential streets that are a little
54:45 bit wider and people are more
54:47 comfortable going 30 to 35 miles per
54:49 hour down those residential streets
54:51 so to your point some of those
54:54 a lot of those streets are going to need
54:56 uh changes in infrastructure before we
54:59 set that speed limit and and that's part
55:01 of that implementation is
55:02 not just to do a full blanket okay all
55:04 residential streets are 20 miles per
55:06 hour
55:06 but to do an evaluation of all
55:08 residential streets to see which areas
55:10 are actually built that way and which
55:12 areas aren't and see where we can
55:14 establish a lot of those safe zones
55:16 where we need to make changes to the
55:18 infrastructure
55:21 making the street feeling more narrow or
55:23 having trapped in common so that people
55:24 feel like it's a
55:27 neighborhood right now industry
55:30 the way you know seattle has done it i
55:32 mean they they
55:33 if you look at their signage they did a
55:35 blanket okay all residential streets
55:38 are 20 miles an hour but if you look at
55:40 the bottom of the sign it says accept
55:41 where posted otherwise
55:43 and so right on all the collectors and
55:45 all the residential streets you
55:47 you'll see a lot of the older speed
55:49 limit signs
55:50 that aren't established you know the 20
55:52 and 25 miles per hour
55:53 which is what they're saying they're
55:54 doing now but they are slowly going
55:57 through their network to be able to
55:58 build it to
55:59 so we people are more comfortable going
56:01 at those slower speeds
56:03 okay so as we go through implementation
56:06 in the future
56:07 so that's those will be the things we
56:09 will need to be considering but
56:10 the main thing is having this
56:12 established now
56:14 allows us to be able to require with new
56:16 development to be able to build to these
56:18 speed limits yeah okay
56:24 hey anybody in the chat window
56:28 i've got more questions
56:31 okay i'm going to go for another one
56:33 figure 18
56:34 uh rd bicycle network it's on page 37.
56:38 uh just back again repeating a um
56:41 comment and then i want to flesh it out
56:42 a little bit better
56:44 we've talked before about the issaquah
56:47 fall city road being a priority corridor
56:49 and i know that you tried to work with
56:52 this
56:53 but the reason i bring it back up is
56:55 that in the policies it says
56:57 that priority corridors will be or
57:00 should
57:01 shall be reduced to a much lower level
57:05 the lower lts and
57:09 for that road 40 miles an hour
57:12 with no space around it
57:16 for expanding for facilities it would be
57:20 extremely expensive to make that so to
57:22 have a shell that priority corridors
57:24 need to be in lts
57:26 2 or lower or whatever it is i can't
57:28 remember
57:29 would put a financial burden on the city
57:31 i just wondered
57:32 how we can work fix that up which
57:35 quarter were you speaking to
57:37 um the is a qualified city road
57:40 which is the big red yellow line in the
57:42 middle of
57:43 figurine right so
57:47 so what i'm i'm using that as an example
57:49 we talked about it before
57:51 where um where i'm where we have a
57:54 policy that says that we shall
57:56 reduce the lts but if we're identifying
57:59 corridors where that would be extremely
58:01 expensive than their alternative then
58:03 why are we
58:04 um sticking with trying to make that an
58:06 lts
58:08 what do you mean they're all there are
58:09 alternatives well there's the issaquah
58:13 highlands road and then there's also the
58:15 one that goes up into inverness which is
58:16 not on this map
58:20 so you get up that hill and then and
58:23 then
58:23 just to learn a little bit more about
58:25 when you do have a policy that says a
58:26 shall
58:27 and you identify a corridor um what kind
58:30 of um
58:32 uh force of of um
58:35 implementation does that really create
58:38 when you say
58:40 that this is your policy is it just when
58:43 the road is being rebuilt
58:45 then then you implement those who makes
58:48 that decision when that
58:49 investment comes in we would uh
58:52 us the tab i mean one of the one of the
58:54 big elements of implementation for the
58:56 master plan is actually to be
58:58 to spend time um taking a closer look at
59:01 a lot of these projects
59:02 i mean one of the big one of the
59:06 major purposes of this whole process was
59:08 to consolidate all the projects
59:10 but the consolidation of all the
59:12 projects and all the other planning
59:14 documents didn't include us
59:16 going into detail on each of these
59:17 projects which is what
59:19 we want to start with implementation is
59:21 to take a look at all these to see
59:24 where does this make sense because some
59:25 of these don't necessarily make sense
59:27 we're we're wanting to establish this
59:29 policy which makes sense to a network
59:31 that was established
59:32 before any of us started with the city
59:34 of issaquah
59:35 um this a lot of this is based off the
59:37 the priority bike network that was
59:39 established in the
59:40 walk and roll plan that was adapted five
59:42 years ago
59:44 um some of that needs to be revised
59:47 because
59:48 that you're right some of these is going
59:49 to be very difficult to implement on
59:51 lts4
59:52 on on as well fall city road um
59:54 particularly because a lot of those
59:56 sections are newer
59:57 and so it's going to be harder to go
59:58 back and rebuild
1:00:01 it looks like cynthia has a comment on
1:00:03 this and maybe she can help us out here
1:00:05 cynthia go ahead and mute well i just
1:00:06 can't help myself um i'm i'm trying to
1:00:09 listen to the
1:00:10 concept that you're bringing up and i'm
1:00:12 having trouble separating that
1:00:14 from just like the content of that
1:00:15 specific stephen said
1:00:17 uh is you you've made the comment that
1:00:20 there's an alternative
1:00:22 and i just wanted to echo that there
1:00:24 already are
1:00:25 alternatives and it is funny they're not
1:00:27 on there there's the um
1:00:31 oh what's the name i was called the
1:00:32 krispy kreme hill um
1:00:34 and yeah so i just wanted to echo
1:00:39 that but i think um
1:00:42 that that doesn't get at the overall
1:00:44 point which i'm still just kind of
1:00:46 struggling a little bit with which is
1:00:48 are we saying by including this map
1:00:52 i think that's you're saying that we
1:00:54 wouldn't actually go through and do this
1:00:56 before we had a chance to revisit it but
1:00:58 what are we
1:00:58 saying you're saying with lts
1:01:02 levels is that that what you're talking
1:01:05 about cynthia
1:01:07 well yes so she's making a comment that
1:01:10 you know that that shouldn't be that
1:01:12 color
1:01:13 and your comment your response to that
1:01:15 was well it's okay
1:01:17 when we go through implementation we'll
1:01:18 make sure everything makes sense
1:01:21 um so just back up and tell me what we
1:01:24 are we're just agreeing in concept that
1:01:26 there's
1:01:27 so i'm just trying to figure out it's
1:01:29 just a constant struggle between a plan
1:01:31 being
1:01:31 you know a larger context framing so
1:01:34 forth and the implementation happens
1:01:36 later
1:01:36 it's also important to understand what
1:01:38 decisions are
1:01:39 sort of being agreed to at that point so
1:01:41 i think that sure
1:01:43 these figures uh promote discussion
1:01:47 and um help us vet things but i always
1:01:50 think it's important to then go back
1:01:51 up and say well if it's wrong because of
1:01:53 this reason then
1:01:55 what part of that is wrong is there
1:01:57 something in the policy that's wrong or
1:01:59 we just evaluate that one
1:02:00 incorrectly for the for this figure i
1:02:03 don't know if that question makes sense
1:02:05 it does yes so i mean the the whole idea
1:02:08 behind
1:02:08 the lts is to help us determine the type
1:02:10 of facilities we want in those areas
1:02:13 not necessarily what the actual level of
1:02:15 stress is once those
1:02:17 once that infrastructure is there
1:02:19 because one of the main points that
1:02:21 was made at the last board meeting was
1:02:25 topography wasn't necessarily taken into
1:02:27 account with the level of stress and and
1:02:28 so that's
1:02:29 that's very important to consider but
1:02:31 with the level of stress
1:02:33 policy is doing is actually helping us
1:02:35 define the type of facilities we would
1:02:37 want to put there
1:02:38 not necessarily that that is what we're
1:02:40 going to be moving forward on that's
1:02:41 that's going to be part of the
1:02:42 implementation process as we're going
1:02:44 through this embedding a lot of these
1:02:45 project
1:02:45 projects in the moment in the
1:02:48 implementation process
1:02:49 to make sure it makes sense um because
1:02:52 there's still i mean
1:02:53 like i said before the bike priority
1:02:56 network
1:02:57 doesn't always this doesn't necessarily
1:02:58 make sense today
1:03:00 because it was adopted you know four
1:03:02 five six years ago now
1:03:04 so does that help answer your question a
1:03:08 little bit better now
1:03:11 i think so thanks okay
1:03:14 and it answers my question uh a little
1:03:17 bit too
1:03:17 i think uh i was just trying to wonder
1:03:20 uh what harm is it
1:03:21 to leave in what is a acknowledged
1:03:24 outdated map and maybe what cynthia said
1:03:27 is um
1:03:28 does it have to be there um for this to
1:03:30 fly since we know it's outdated
1:03:32 zuchata has a question and maybe she can
1:03:34 help us with this yeah this is sujati
1:03:36 oil and actually that was going to be my
1:03:38 comment was
1:03:39 you know reorganizing this section where
1:03:41 maybe we have a clear matrix at the
1:03:43 front that sort of lists all the
1:03:45 policies
1:03:46 in a more clear way and then um
1:03:50 yeah and then we have figures that sort
1:03:52 of support those policies
1:03:54 if we know that this 2015 map is either
1:03:57 outdated
1:03:58 or non-achievable
1:04:01 um you know or if we know that there's
1:04:04 parallel or adjacent
1:04:05 streets that actually provide the
1:04:07 connectivity at the level of stress that
1:04:09 we want
1:04:10 then it feels like it doesn't make sense
1:04:13 i personally don't think it makes sense
1:04:15 to include an
1:04:15 outdated map as sort of guiding set of
1:04:19 values
1:04:20 it would make sense to just say we are
1:04:23 going to work on
1:04:24 updating our walk and roll plan uh
1:04:27 so it reflects these values we can
1:04:29 implement them
1:04:32 accordingly or something you know what i
1:04:33 mean so we're gonna create a walk and
1:04:35 roll plan to reflect the values of our
1:04:37 mobility master plan and update a map
1:04:40 sort of achieves these levels of stress
1:04:42 and these
1:04:43 you know corridors or something to that
1:04:47 uh thing okay because the policy makes
1:04:51 sense
1:04:52 the map does not
1:04:56 okay and tom gets a turn on contributing
1:04:59 to this too go ahead tom
1:05:01 [Music]
1:05:04 make sure i'm off you my comment was
1:05:07 could there be a statement to the effect
1:05:08 of the age of the map
1:05:09 and that either we update the map or
1:05:11 just note that it will be
1:05:13 uh updated in a
1:05:16 sequential year or something to effect
1:05:19 so that
1:05:20 um we state something that we know
1:05:24 the map is out of date but we're using
1:05:25 it for a reference point
1:05:30 a big banner across it that says
1:05:34 old map
1:05:42 looks like it looks like we might have
1:05:44 exhausted this topic
1:05:45 uh stephen you got some good stuff to
1:05:46 work with there yes
1:05:48 thank you
1:05:52 and uh cynthia i'm gonna let you say
1:05:54 that on the mic
1:05:55 go ahead this is cynthia
1:05:59 crass maps are good i hate deleting them
1:06:02 but i like tom's idea
1:06:08 thank you okay looking for new
1:06:12 comments i'm always ready with an
1:06:15 inspiration
1:06:16 if you're not ready this is just a
1:06:18 little one this is a little housekeeping
1:06:19 one stephen easy peasy
1:06:21 figure 20 which is in the concurrency
1:06:24 section
1:06:26 uh figure 20 is on page 41 of the
1:06:31 plan 75 of the packet
1:06:34 and down in the footnotes it says um los
1:06:38 e but it's um in the policy i think it's
1:06:41 in this document but it's in the other
1:06:43 concurrency documents it's e or f as
1:06:46 long as the average is d
1:06:47 throughout the city so to leave the f
1:06:49 off here i thought was a
1:06:51 um a significant omission
1:06:55 on this mat on this figure figure 20
1:06:58 levels of service or concurrency
1:07:02 and these are just the six intersections
1:07:03 that are on the outside of the city that
1:07:06 um i wouldn't have known this if i
1:07:08 weren't sitting on city council and we
1:07:10 decided to say
1:07:11 oh go ahead e or f we can't control how
1:07:14 many people are coming through that
1:07:15 intersection it's on the edge of our
1:07:17 it's something that's so out of control
1:07:19 how can we take on the burden of
1:07:20 maintaining it so we said erf
1:07:22 anyway just a housekeeping on that one i
1:07:26 think
1:07:26 we'll take a look at it thank you thank
1:07:28 you sir
1:07:32 okay i got one more from my community uh
1:07:35 i talked with a few people in my
1:07:37 neighborhood and just um
1:07:39 there's a section or a policy 7.1 about
1:07:43 supporting pilot programs or
1:07:45 neighborhood transits
1:07:47 and it's not a change at all it's just
1:07:49 to say hey
1:07:50 keep that language in there because as
1:07:52 we go forward especially postcovid
1:07:54 looking at budgets of our transit
1:07:56 systems and also just the individual
1:07:59 desires
1:08:00 and needs of our neighborhoods uh really
1:08:02 wanted to keep that
1:08:04 language in there and uh highlands is
1:08:07 already going forward with trying to
1:08:09 advance a pilot program and i hope that
1:08:11 other neighborhoods will get that
1:08:12 opportunity too so
1:08:14 so kudos and thank you on that we do
1:08:18 jacques with a question
1:08:22 hi this is sujata goyal um i guess one
1:08:24 of the questions
1:08:25 i was wondering about in the policies
1:08:27 and i'm not certain
1:08:29 which one it would fit in but if we're
1:08:31 using our transportation policies and
1:08:33 we're tying them to
1:08:34 these other planning efforts and now
1:08:38 sort of in light of covid and seeing how
1:08:41 more people are working from home and
1:08:44 certain organizations are like
1:08:45 permanently moving people to work from
1:08:48 i'm wondering with some of these other
1:08:50 commissions
1:08:52 as they're coming forward is there a way
1:08:55 um where we can in one of our
1:08:57 transportation policies
1:08:59 sort of just state this notion where
1:09:00 we'd like to see
1:09:02 you know um especially for the people
1:09:06 where the trips don't for those 33
1:09:08 percent of trips that don't originate
1:09:10 in our city they're basically just
1:09:12 passed through is there something
1:09:14 we can sort of do in our policies that
1:09:17 talks about this notion of
1:09:19 encouraging um encouraging businesses
1:09:23 in the area to you know institute flex
1:09:27 work schedules or work from home
1:09:29 or you know utilization technology
1:09:32 like now that that we're all sort of
1:09:35 stuck in this grand
1:09:37 um experiment and
1:09:40 um we're all you know meandering through
1:09:42 it up to and including this quest school
1:09:44 district just today
1:09:45 sort of let out you know sort of
1:09:48 describe what they're going to be doing
1:09:49 with our students like is there a way
1:09:51 that so we're seeing this great
1:09:53 influence is there a way we can reflect
1:09:56 in an actual policy of saying you know
1:09:59 the transportation advisory committee
1:10:00 would really like to encourage
1:10:02 a policy that states you know
1:10:06 try to work from home or or whatever it
1:10:08 might be um i mean
1:10:09 and we know that's not reasonable for
1:10:12 all um
1:10:13 types of job types but in the cases
1:10:15 where there are
1:10:17 do we just want to sort of plant our
1:10:18 flag in that case
1:10:20 yeah so one of the edits that i forgot
1:10:23 to mention that we are working on is
1:10:25 language around creature production
1:10:28 translation demand manages to make sure
1:10:29 that's a little more prominent
1:10:31 we don't want to go into too much detail
1:10:34 on that because some of that
1:10:35 has to be implemented as part of a
1:10:37 permit review process and so
1:10:39 such as other policies will have to get
1:10:41 updated to reflect what we're trying to
1:10:43 achieve so yes
1:10:44 we i think that's an important point to
1:10:46 highlight though
1:10:55 i don't see any other questions at this
1:10:57 time i see a comment from uh
1:10:59 comment oh good yeah cynthia comment and
1:11:01 then when it looks like it's clear
1:11:03 stephen you can move on to
1:11:05 the next sections of the document just
1:11:08 a point this is cynthia cross echoing
1:11:10 what sujata had to say
1:11:12 um and i was glad to hear you talk about
1:11:14 commute to production
1:11:16 um when i was at the city of samanish we
1:11:18 did our comprehensive plan
1:11:19 we did a um we made a policy that the
1:11:22 city would
1:11:23 um impose upon itself the ctr
1:11:27 i think it's is it still a hundred
1:11:28 employees there
1:11:30 could could there be i don't know maybe
1:11:32 this just doesn't belong at this level
1:11:34 i do think um you could incent
1:11:37 ctr to exceed the requirements or to
1:11:42 comply even if not required um
1:11:46 just just a thought because that was
1:11:48 that i was thinking of the commute to
1:11:50 production program when
1:11:51 i was listening to sujata and it
1:11:53 occurred to me that
1:11:54 it it could be you can use the same
1:11:57 program
1:11:58 um but incent those not required to
1:12:01 comply
1:12:02 to comply but
1:12:06 i'm not quite sure where it belongs this
1:12:08 we're just at all these different levels
1:12:10 and it's so easy to dive right into the
1:12:12 details
1:12:14 just a thought yes thank you yeah we are
1:12:16 we are playing with that language a
1:12:18 little bit to kind of look at
1:12:19 especially with how covet 19
1:12:22 has impacted everything the whole
1:12:24 conversation around telecommuting
1:12:26 and incentivizing it i mean we didn't
1:12:29 even need incentivizing most people
1:12:31 moved to telecommuting so it's
1:12:32 it's hard to say okay well let's
1:12:34 increase it by 10 more
1:12:36 when everybody's already doing it so
1:12:37 we're trying to play with that language
1:12:39 a little bit
1:12:40 as a lot of the workforce goes back into
1:12:43 flex schedules which
1:12:44 seems to be the trend for most large
1:12:47 industries to figure out how we can
1:12:51 support some of that and work with
1:12:52 you know metro and sound transit to make
1:12:57 no connections are lost in everything
1:13:04 anything else before i move on to
1:13:06 implementation
1:13:08 that's the last part that i'm going to
1:13:10 go into um
1:13:13 so for implementation it's
1:13:17 we really are just going to be adding
1:13:18 more detail to what's going to be
1:13:20 happening next we talked
1:13:21 about what's going to be what we're
1:13:23 moving forward on for the remainder of
1:13:26 um and then which is more policy updates
1:13:29 but also making sure that our staff gets
1:13:32 rebuilt because we've lost quite a bit
1:13:34 of staff
1:13:34 last year and our transportation team is
1:13:37 fairly limited to be able to do work
1:13:38 through implementation so once we have a
1:13:40 full team we'll be able to
1:13:41 work a little bit more and build out
1:13:43 more on the implementation for the
1:13:44 master plan in 2021
1:13:47 you know some of the updates that i
1:13:48 talked about we really have to take
1:13:50 another look at the financial outlook
1:13:52 the city but also for transportation to
1:13:54 figure out how we can
1:13:55 fund and build out some of this
1:13:58 implementation
1:13:59 but also make more policy updates uh our
1:14:02 ada transition plan
1:14:04 is needing an update and incorporation
1:14:06 as part of this
1:14:07 our implementation for our
1:14:11 crossing guidelines needs to be updated
1:14:13 as well the traffic calming
1:14:14 policy things that we've talked about
1:14:16 but we never really fully
1:14:17 updated yet things that needed to come
1:14:19 after the master plan gets adopted
1:14:21 we're also going to be looking at how to
1:14:24 incorporate the master plan
1:14:26 into our capital improvement plan which
1:14:28 is part of that whole
1:14:29 project review process and going a
1:14:32 little more detail on the projects
1:14:34 making sure they're relevant but also
1:14:35 making sure we
1:14:37 incorporate the
1:14:40 uh project selection criteria into the
1:14:44 so that it's not just going based off
1:14:48 what we've always done we're now
1:14:49 selecting projects for our cpu using the
1:14:51 guiding principles
1:14:53 and that selection criteria
1:14:58 can you can you pause a moment stephen i
1:15:00 have a question from cynthia and one
1:15:02 from me after her
1:15:07 sorry i couldn't type fast enough before
1:15:08 you moved on i i
1:15:10 um on there was just one we were going
1:15:13 through details and it's not really much
1:15:15 of a discussion but um on page 48
1:15:17 the lts diagram has an error it should
1:15:20 say alt ages on that first one
1:15:22 it's page 48 of the packet um
1:15:26 i didn't see a little sticky i didn't
1:15:28 know if you saw it already
1:15:30 it doesn't look like the one on page 68
1:15:32 it uh repeats
1:15:33 lts one and two doesn't have the all
1:15:35 ages language
1:15:37 okay i'll make sure that that gets up to
1:15:39 you thank you sorry
1:15:41 i couldn't ask enough before you got
1:15:42 into the next topic
1:15:45 and uh i had a comment too if there's
1:15:48 anybody else in the queue
1:15:49 nobody but go ahead and put question and
1:15:51 comment in the queue
1:15:53 uh the question i had and i think this
1:15:54 is an implementation but i can't
1:15:56 remember where it is
1:15:57 we were talking about implementing the
1:15:58 vision zero in a proactive safety
1:16:00 program
1:16:00 it said something like we'll have a
1:16:02 program by 2040
1:16:04 and i thought why does it take 20 years
1:16:07 to create a program and i'm trying to
1:16:10 find out where that was
1:16:12 but i didn't say where it was yeah the
1:16:15 language
1:16:16 uh i missed that but the language should
1:16:18 have said that we are trying to achieve
1:16:20 the vision zero by 2040 not
1:16:23 create a program by then that it
1:16:25 shouldn't take 20 years to create the
1:16:26 program
1:16:28 maybe you could follow up on that for me
1:16:30 and make sure that that's
1:16:31 the right thing thank you so much uh
1:16:33 anybody else in the
1:16:35 uh yeah sujata is next yeah this is
1:16:38 sujata um
1:16:39 one of the questions stephen just a
1:16:42 clarifying question was
1:16:43 did you say one of the council members
1:16:45 in this section of implementation did
1:16:48 one of the council members uh
1:16:49 request us sort of um
1:16:52 growing the options of revenue
1:16:55 opportunities
1:16:57 no they they were
1:17:01 they were wanting us to expand more on
1:17:03 the funding um
1:17:05 specifically to say what our funding
1:17:08 options are how much revenue would be
1:17:10 generated by each funding option but
1:17:12 also the how much of the project list
1:17:16 could be covered with each funding
1:17:18 option so just giving more detail of
1:17:20 of what these funding options mean in
1:17:22 terms of the world of
1:17:23 implementing their transportation
1:17:25 projects that's what they were asking
1:17:32 that answer your question okay not yeah
1:17:34 and and i wondered why the city council
1:17:36 didn't say something about this uh
1:17:38 100 million assumption that's in there i
1:17:40 wonder if that's necessary
1:17:42 considering uh revenues are
1:17:45 so in flux i will leave that to you
1:17:49 okay so what other sections do we have
1:17:51 stephen
1:17:53 that was the last part that i was going
1:17:54 to go over with you um for this and then
1:17:56 just open the floor for general
1:17:58 question questions comments
1:18:01 how should we look at the
1:18:04 um prior
1:18:08 project evaluation criteria would be
1:18:11 something that we all worked on and you
1:18:13 could you would have reviewed to see if
1:18:16 it was
1:18:16 still in keeping i think that has stayed
1:18:18 fairly um unchanged in the more recent
1:18:20 meetings that we've had we've dialed
1:18:22 that in
1:18:23 yeah i think i think the biggest change
1:18:25 we're making is to
1:18:26 the um i think it's
1:18:30 section or criteria 4.1 or 4.2
1:18:33 looking instead of looking at lid but
1:18:36 looking more specifically
1:18:38 at um or or landscaping looking at
1:18:41 what's impacting critical areas so just
1:18:43 changing the language and the evaluation
1:18:45 around that instead of
1:18:46 storm water or lid which is already
1:18:49 required as part of our permitting
1:18:52 process
1:18:56 opening up the floor one have a comment
1:19:01 about the stuff we've talked about the
1:19:04 prioritization criteria
1:19:07 um stephen can you give us some
1:19:10 a little more information now that we
1:19:12 see this project list and you talked
1:19:14 about the 27 or
1:19:16 20 whatever are at the top can you kind
1:19:19 of re-run through that a little bit for
1:19:21 us about
1:19:22 how you guys added projects just for the
1:19:25 record and
1:19:26 i'll make sure we all understand that
1:19:28 sure just i mean
1:19:30 i'll start from the beginning the going
1:19:32 back from the guiding principles
1:19:34 we use those to formulate project
1:19:37 selection criteria so things we've
1:19:39 kind of reviewed multiple times of what
1:19:41 do we want to
1:19:43 how do we want to evaluate
1:19:47 each of the guiding principles as part
1:19:50 selecting our our projects developing
1:19:53 the projects but also prioritizing them
1:19:55 and and so we with the project
1:19:58 evaluation criteria we
1:19:59 use those rankings
1:20:02 and ranked all the projects i think it
1:20:05 was a total of about 140 projects
1:20:09 100 were pre-existing prior to us
1:20:11 starting this process
1:20:12 and then we added about 40 more using
1:20:15 the sidewalk and bike facility gap
1:20:17 analysis that we did and we
1:20:20 identified what that tells us is 27
1:20:23 projects from that list
1:20:27 meet what we're trying to do with each
1:20:29 of the guiding principles
1:20:31 it's not to say that the highest ranking
1:20:33 one is going to be our number one
1:20:34 priority is just to say
1:20:36 we have now 27 high priority projects
1:20:38 that we are trying to move forward on
1:20:41 at any point where we find the
1:20:43 opportunity to be able to try to
1:20:44 implement them
1:20:45 not not to say that number one is going
1:20:47 to be implemented before number 27.
1:20:53 i'll pause there before i talk a little
1:20:55 bit more
1:20:56 any questions so johnny you have a
1:20:58 comment
1:21:00 sorry i'm being a real blabbermouth this
1:21:01 meeting um but i do have a question
1:21:03 and a comment actually on these
1:21:05 prioritized projects
1:21:07 so when i look at the values that we
1:21:11 sort of espouse about this plan or what
1:21:13 we want
1:21:14 to see in transportation in the city of
1:21:15 issaquah and then you know we start
1:21:18 diving into detail and
1:21:19 policies and this and that the one thing
1:21:21 that i have to say is really striking to
1:21:24 is that when i look at the actual
1:21:26 prioritized projects
1:21:28 and the ones that got the highest score
1:21:30 so it doesn't necessarily mean they're
1:21:32 the first ones we're gonna do like
1:21:33 steven said but
1:21:35 the ones that got the highest score
1:21:36 which was really interesting to me so
1:21:39 in a way the val what we were valuing
1:21:43 and how we ranked our projects they
1:21:45 actually
1:21:46 like whatever shift we sent everything
1:21:48 through in my mind it actually worked
1:21:51 because when you look at the prioritized
1:21:53 list of projects
1:21:54 you're really seeing this notion of
1:21:58 valuing non-motorized mobility and
1:22:00 you're looking at this notion of valuing
1:22:02 connectivity and complete streets and
1:22:04 focused
1:22:05 on the central corridor you're looking
1:22:07 at these values of safety
1:22:11 so it really i was kind of excited when
1:22:13 i saw this list
1:22:14 and then and the points that it achieved
1:22:17 because
1:22:18 um through through this whole thing that
1:22:21 we did
1:22:22 ultimately our values i feel like
1:22:26 the project list that is sort of the
1:22:30 output is actually copacetic with
1:22:35 what the values we were when we started
1:22:38 the process
1:22:38 so yay so i'm feeling that way and i
1:22:42 don't know if everybody out like
1:22:44 i mean you know because though you know
1:22:46 in public comment there was a comment
1:22:48 around reduction of congestion
1:22:50 and so i feel like as a transportation
1:22:52 advisory board
1:22:53 we really thought an a solution to
1:22:56 congestion
1:22:58 and climate and health was
1:23:01 you know starting to prioritize mobility
1:23:04 non-motorized mobility different ways of
1:23:06 getting around like
1:23:08 we were really um i i think as a body
1:23:11 we wound up focusing more on some of
1:23:13 these other
1:23:14 values as a way to get us to a reduction
1:23:18 in congestion and our list
1:23:20 is reflecting that vision
1:23:23 and so i'm super excited about it um
1:23:26 but i just wanted to take a pause and
1:23:29 take a moment
1:23:30 to you know it was it struck me as
1:23:34 really great
1:23:35 but as a committee do we want to take a
1:23:37 pause and take a moment and say
1:23:39 you know this we're putting our stamp of
1:23:41 approval on this and as a committee are
1:23:42 we like
1:23:43 yes or are we like oh god that is not
1:23:45 where we meant to go
1:23:47 so i wouldn't mind you know if we had a
1:23:50 moment if we could get some feedback on
1:23:52 that from the committee
1:23:53 um because to me this feels like this
1:23:56 feels like the rubber
1:23:57 hitting the road and or the sneakers
1:24:00 or whatever so i just want to make sure
1:24:03 that this was
1:24:04 actually what people intended for the
1:24:06 output
1:24:08 i like that there are a couple times um
1:24:10 this evening that i'd like to
1:24:12 kind of hear from everybody some of you
1:24:14 are quiet um
1:24:16 but i appreciate all the things you said
1:24:18 sujata and that and maybe you know this
1:24:20 is a significant
1:24:22 um as you said output of all of the
1:24:26 other things
1:24:27 so let's just kind of go around
1:24:30 and let me just call on on names like i
1:24:32 did and and
1:24:33 see if you if you kind of agree don't
1:24:36 agree
1:24:37 um do you think that the outputs is as
1:24:40 manifest in the list
1:24:41 um it's where you thought and just very
1:24:44 briefly really briefly tom why don't you
1:24:46 go first
1:24:58 sorry i have to figure out i've got
1:25:00 three screens i'm
1:25:01 trying to figure out where my mouse is
1:25:02 so i can unmute myself
1:25:05 [Music]
1:25:06 um my first comment was like
1:25:10 can cannot defer but um
1:25:18 may play dumb here and ask you a little
1:25:22 bit more specifically as far as
1:25:24 our comment on the prioritized projects
1:25:27 or how they were arrived at
1:25:29 i wasn't sure exactly what the question
1:25:31 is as far as the
1:25:33 uh the area that we're talking about
1:25:36 right now i think the prioritized
1:25:38 projects
1:25:43 i'm not sure exactly what the question
1:25:44 is that i'm supposed to
1:25:48 i think it's just kind of getting to do
1:25:50 you think that the outputs
1:25:51 of the the accumulation of policies
1:25:54 to criteria to
1:25:57 project list yeah getting you where you
1:26:00 thought you were going
1:26:02 so what i was looking for was kind of a
1:26:04 balance between
1:26:05 uh not everything being a roadway
1:26:07 project but the balance between
1:26:09 the first one starts off with the the
1:26:11 bike the shared use path
1:26:13 uh as far as the balance between the
1:26:15 types of projects
1:26:16 i know that you know
1:26:19 i i understand that you know if they
1:26:21 have a certain amount of money
1:26:23 you know you might do some projects that
1:26:25 might be
1:26:26 less expensive so you can get a series
1:26:28 of several projects done as opposed to
1:26:29 banking on the most expensive largest
1:26:31 project at
1:26:32 any one time not doing the others to get
1:26:34 enough funds to do that one
1:26:36 trying to balance out between the two of
1:26:37 them um
1:26:39 so i was looking at both the decisive
1:26:41 projects and the balancing between the
1:26:44 the street uh trail improvements
1:26:47 um projects and i thought it was you
1:26:53 a quick read through that it was a
1:26:55 fairly balanced
1:26:56 uh list of projects
1:27:01 anybody else ready raise your hand i'll
1:27:04 call on you
1:27:05 emma's ready um
1:27:08 i think that i really like where this is
1:27:12 all going i really like that we
1:27:14 prioritize um the
1:27:18 the walking and the bikes first and
1:27:20 maybe um
1:27:21 if we are getting that feedback that
1:27:22 doesn't specifically
1:27:24 use the terminology as like clearing up
1:27:26 congestion we could just incorporate
1:27:27 that into those
1:27:29 areas of policy so maybe under like um
1:27:32 where we have the bike diagrams you
1:27:35 could say
1:27:36 in order to clear up congestion like
1:27:38 this is why we are
1:27:40 prioritizing it maybe make it a little
1:27:41 bit more apparent but
1:27:43 i really like where we're going i
1:27:47 think it's a good product
1:27:50 that's a good point emma it could just
1:27:51 be in the way those
1:27:53 projects are characterized that they're
1:27:55 not um bringing forward
1:27:58 how they are helping with congestion too
1:28:00 and and in
1:28:01 many cases they do who else is ready
1:28:04 let's just very simple i think oh this
1:28:07 is my resourceful sir
1:28:09 and i i want to agree with um suggest
1:28:12 and what she said i mean at the
1:28:14 beginning when
1:28:15 starting this this project and
1:28:19 then this advisory board um i felt like
1:28:22 you know we're gonna come together and
1:28:24 there's gonna be so much
1:28:26 at once and and it has and at the same
1:28:29 time i have been
1:28:30 learning so much on how how things work
1:28:33 um and i do think as
1:28:37 and i was saying that you know perhaps
1:28:39 the wording that we have been using is
1:28:41 not what
1:28:42 you know it won't say um
1:28:44 [Music]
1:28:46 i don't want to say decongestant because
1:28:47 that's not what i mean but you know
1:28:50 you know what i mean uh but yes like
1:28:52 prioritizing those two
1:28:54 i mean we are we are actually saying
1:28:57 this these are changes that needs to be
1:29:00 and it might not be what you know people
1:29:03 expecting to hear or might not be the
1:29:05 words but it is
1:29:06 taking us to where people will be
1:29:09 thinking about
1:29:10 using other uh type of transportation
1:29:13 instead of what we are using right now
1:29:15 because making more roads and making
1:29:17 them wider
1:29:18 won't help they congest in the long term
1:29:22 because in the long term if we keep
1:29:23 doing that i mean where are we going to
1:29:26 so um yeah
1:29:29 i really think that um their
1:29:32 priorities and putting them the things
1:29:34 together um
1:29:35 it's it was a good call i'm
1:29:39 i'm really proud of all the work that
1:29:41 everybody has been doing in this
1:29:43 in this group thank you
1:29:46 thank you marisol and i think i have uh
1:29:49 kobe up next are you ready
1:29:53 um yeah this is a question yeah sorry
1:29:56 this is kobe
1:29:57 um i have a question kind of related to
1:29:59 tom's comment
1:30:00 um i'm not quite sure exactly how to
1:30:02 word this
1:30:04 um but i feel like a lot of these types
1:30:06 of project rubrics
1:30:08 or criteria i guess the better way to
1:30:09 say it um
1:30:12 always prioritize the top the the
1:30:14 projects that are the most expensive
1:30:15 because they tend to have the biggest
1:30:17 impact
1:30:18 um and i'm not super knowledgeable on
1:30:21 the individual infrastructure project so
1:30:23 i'm not
1:30:23 quite sure if this is the case but um i
1:30:26 was just wondering if
1:30:28 um our project lists the top the most
1:30:31 the items with the highest priority are
1:30:34 mixed with both
1:30:35 high cost and low cost items
1:30:39 yes yes they are yeah part of
1:30:43 i mean we tried not taking the financial
1:30:47 aspect into too much of
1:30:50 the um project selection criteria just
1:30:53 because we want to use them
1:30:54 with prioritization the costs will come
1:30:56 into effect as we are implementing the
1:30:58 top 27 projects
1:31:00 to determine the type of opportunities
1:31:02 we want to take it doesn't mean that we
1:31:04 can't
1:31:05 elevate lower projects that aren't
1:31:07 necessarily that top
1:31:08 27 when you know a specific grant comes
1:31:13 let's say and then project number 100
1:31:16 actually rises to the top because of
1:31:18 that type of opportunity but
1:31:20 is to say that we are actively trying to
1:31:22 pursue those 27
1:31:24 top projects as part of either our cip
1:31:26 or as part of
1:31:28 short short-term projects or or
1:31:30 lower-cost projects
1:31:32 as part of a program the city might have
1:31:34 so yes it's
1:31:35 i i think it's it's a good mixture of
1:31:37 both high projects that are going to
1:31:39 have a higher cost and projects that are
1:31:41 a little bit lower
1:31:42 thank you that's a good comment on uh
1:31:45 grants actually because sometimes
1:31:47 uh tib or other might have grants to
1:31:49 come out for certain things
1:31:51 and something that might be lowered down
1:31:52 the tier might be oh this is a perfect
1:31:54 project for that type of grant
1:31:56 you bring it up to apply for the grants
1:31:58 if you get it and then you go ahead and
1:32:00 build it
1:32:03 excellent good comments by both of you
1:32:06 kobe did you want to say anything about
1:32:08 your impressions get a chance to read
1:32:12 the um project list you obviously seems
1:32:14 like you did and
1:32:15 did you think they reflected the
1:32:16 direction we thought we were going
1:32:20 uh yeah i mean it looks good um we've
1:32:23 gone through the project criteria quite
1:32:25 a bit and it looks like
1:32:27 it's been zero enough to make sure that
1:32:29 we evaluate projects from a large
1:32:31 different um a ton of different sources
1:32:35 and are able to
1:32:36 accurately rank them i guess so yeah
1:32:38 looks good to me
1:32:43 um maddie or
1:32:46 yeah maddie and cynthia you couldn't
1:32:48 then you there you go thanks
1:32:50 oh this is maddie um i
1:32:54 was also really pleased with how we
1:32:56 prioritized the projects and i also
1:32:58 really wanted to
1:33:00 echo what emma was saying earlier about
1:33:03 how we are characterizing each of our
1:33:06 projects and making sure
1:33:08 that we use um
1:33:11 or we get our point across on why we
1:33:14 prioritize the projects the way we have
1:33:16 in using words like congestion
1:33:18 that um mean a lot to the people who
1:33:22 will be reading our paper and so they
1:33:24 understand
1:33:25 that the projects that we have
1:33:27 prioritized are
1:33:29 trying to address those problems that
1:33:31 they do have and their concerns
1:33:37 excellent maddie thank you very much
1:33:39 cynthia do you want to weigh in
1:33:40 in this way
1:33:56 sorry i was doing a split screen thing
1:33:58 and i got really lost
1:33:59 um but it is handy to have a split
1:34:02 screen
1:34:04 i do want to say that i i don't exactly
1:34:08 know what we should say about congestion
1:34:10 i think emma's right there are probably
1:34:12 some ways we can work in
1:34:14 um reduc reduce congestion is going to
1:34:17 be an outcome
1:34:18 of some of the activities but
1:34:21 we have to be kind of um
1:34:25 i guess address the elephant in the room
1:34:27 a little bit a lot of people when they
1:34:28 first think about issaquah the first
1:34:30 thing they think of is sitting in
1:34:31 traffic on front street and their
1:34:32 impulse is to say i want to reduce
1:34:34 congestion
1:34:35 but every one of us has been through
1:34:36 this and council has also been through
1:34:38 this and
1:34:39 that has clearly not been our goal is
1:34:41 reducing what people think of as
1:34:43 congestion which is
1:34:44 cars and so and and as i think as
1:34:48 marisol pointed out like we can't just
1:34:50 widen all roads that's what you know
1:34:51 that's
1:34:52 it's that's a race to the bottom and um
1:34:55 so i guess i'm a little kind of just
1:34:58 asking the question i guess one question
1:35:01 does everybody agree with my
1:35:02 characterization of how we treated
1:35:04 the non-goal of the narrow to me
1:35:08 the narrow and short term
1:35:13 sort of leave it where we just don't
1:35:15 really take that straight on because
1:35:17 it's just too
1:35:18 difficult to communicate to the broad
1:35:22 public um because you really got to dive
1:35:24 deep before you understand why that goal
1:35:26 isn't really achievable
1:35:27 and why mobility is the goal not
1:35:29 reduction of congestion
1:35:31 so there's part of me that says you know
1:35:32 let's just go out on a limb and
1:35:35 say what it is and part of me says you
1:35:38 know what everyone who spends time with
1:35:40 comes to the same conclusion let's not
1:35:42 sweat it too much
1:35:44 but i do think that um you know i just
1:35:46 was looking again through the
1:35:48 project criteria and yeah for sure
1:35:51 this i mean i think um sudata's point is
1:35:54 a good one and i think it is where the
1:35:56 tennis shoes meet the road and um i
1:35:59 think
1:36:00 yay us
1:36:04 did i see emma come off mute there you
1:36:06 go girl
1:36:07 yeah this is emma um responding to
1:36:11 cynthia's point i totally understand
1:36:13 absolutely our goal should be mobility
1:36:16 as people who have
1:36:18 gone through that research that widening
1:36:20 roads won't
1:36:21 help with congestion but i also know
1:36:24 that like
1:36:25 if i talk to my mom about this stuff or
1:36:28 like if i bring it up in our like
1:36:29 neighborhood by like
1:36:31 a bonfire however long ago before
1:36:34 quarantine you know
1:36:36 um they're like oh you gotta widen the
1:36:38 roads oh you're not widening the road
1:36:40 you gotta make more
1:36:41 go behind the school you know and they
1:36:43 have all these paths designed like in
1:36:45 their heads of like
1:36:46 oh we could just make a road right here
1:36:48 and then like everything would be solved
1:36:50 um and so
1:36:52 definitely like seeing the research we
1:36:55 know that that's not the solution but
1:36:57 to the vast majority of people i think
1:36:59 we should make it apparent that this
1:37:01 is the best path that we can take given
1:37:04 this situation
1:37:06 um and so maybe just incorporating those
1:37:09 trigger words like congestion and like
1:37:10 this will help with congestion
1:37:13 um will help with like the general
1:37:17 public's feedback
1:37:23 looking for anybody else who would like
1:37:26 contribute this has been a really
1:37:28 awesome conversation and a great segue
1:37:31 which is what i was kind of looking for
1:37:33 i was trying to think of how to
1:37:35 how to capture the feeling of the board
1:37:38 and um with sergioto's comments that
1:37:42 kind of fed right into this which has
1:37:44 been very nice i'm not
1:37:46 saying kobe do you have another question
1:37:49 are you
1:37:49 would you like to come up kobe are you
1:37:52 is that an old one
1:37:54 that's an old one yeah it's an old one i
1:37:56 do have a comment to make though if um
1:37:58 please do please do okay um yeah i mean
1:38:00 i was just
1:38:01 gonna say kind of in agreement with what
1:38:03 cynthia and emma said
1:38:04 um everyone always talks about the time
1:38:08 before issaquah had like all this
1:38:10 traffic but i've only
1:38:11 i've moved here seven or eight years ago
1:38:13 so all i know
1:38:14 is you know the traffic that is now and
1:38:17 it doesn't seem like a problem that is
1:38:18 ever going to go away we're always going
1:38:20 to have more traffic than we
1:38:21 had you know all long time ago um
1:38:25 i think like a large part of our job is
1:38:28 not just
1:38:30 finding and implementing projects that
1:38:32 help with that congestion without
1:38:34 you know just making more roads or
1:38:36 making roads wider
1:38:37 is also educating kind of helping the
1:38:40 community understand that this is
1:38:42 this is something that won't just be
1:38:44 helped by increasing the size of roads
1:38:46 or adding new roads
1:38:51 thank you kobe don't see anybody else in
1:38:53 the chat
1:38:54 there's another thing that this um
1:38:57 conversation is brought up is uh
1:38:59 taking us back to our guiding principles
1:39:01 one of them being
1:39:02 improved mobility and it says improve
1:39:05 mobility using all travel
1:39:07 options which would include the car so
1:39:09 we're not forgetting them and i think
1:39:11 that's the point that we're trying to
1:39:13 and then the other is to prepare for
1:39:15 growth which means that we need
1:39:17 and we talk about multimodal in that
1:39:20 guiding principle
1:39:21 saying that we need to expand the
1:39:22 options for people so that we can get
1:39:24 more people through more places but it's
1:39:26 still not
1:39:26 saying we're not serving the car so
1:39:30 the um the opportunities that may not
1:39:32 have been
1:39:33 identified yet to show where
1:39:38 this will also or you know um
1:39:42 contribute to making it safer to drive
1:39:46 that's another thing making it safer to
1:39:48 drive through mr claw
1:39:49 is an important consideration for me uh
1:39:51 marisol
1:39:52 you have a comment yeah this is my story
1:39:55 and yeah my comment was um
1:39:57 along what kobe was just saying uh and
1:40:00 just thinking about
1:40:02 sorry yes that you know uh driving is
1:40:06 all we know
1:40:07 especially in this area because of the
1:40:09 distances and all that
1:40:11 um and this is something that we have to
1:40:13 learn and it might not be something that
1:40:16 um you know directly um correlated with
1:40:19 the work whether
1:40:20 we are doing this is a bigger
1:40:21 conversation of what
1:40:23 how how you know how the city of how
1:40:26 issaquah is educating
1:40:27 or sharing what the options are to
1:40:30 travel within issaquah
1:40:32 um what are we teaching our young
1:40:35 generation
1:40:36 that i think um
1:40:39 kobe or maddie i don't remember who
1:40:42 brought it at the beginning of
1:40:43 our first meetings where you know
1:40:45 everybody is looking forward just to
1:40:47 drive when they
1:40:48 turn 16 well what are the other options
1:40:51 what else can they do if they turn 16
1:40:54 and they can start driving what else can
1:40:56 you how
1:40:56 how else can you move from the highlands
1:41:00 downtown issaquah other than driving i
1:41:03 mean those are
1:41:04 things that as i said it might not be
1:41:06 something that
1:41:07 has to come up from the this uh board
1:41:10 um and it might be a bigger conversation
1:41:12 and it might be a crossbar
1:41:14 with another you know something else
1:41:17 that the city is already doing
1:41:20 thank you thank you marisol
1:41:25 so again uh this does seem to tee up a
1:41:29 um segway to the next
1:41:32 item on the agenda if stephen you think
1:41:35 you've
1:41:36 gotten what you wanted on the um item of
1:41:39 the draft plan
1:41:41 list of revised changes and having a
1:41:43 discussion with us do you think we've
1:41:44 completed that section okay
1:41:46 yes thank you thank you everybody okay
1:41:49 so then let's move on to
1:41:50 the review mmp letter of support
1:41:54 which is an action item meaning that uh
1:41:57 we'll have a vote
1:41:58 i'm working with steven we have a
1:42:03 draft letter that perhaps stephen can
1:42:05 bring up on the screen and can you bring
1:42:07 it up as a as a word doc
1:42:09 stephen so that you can edit it in place
1:42:12 that would be great i think we can
1:42:14 i think we can get this all the way to
1:42:16 the finish line
1:42:19 by um reading through it uh ourselves on
1:42:23 the screen
1:42:23 and it was in your packet the new one
1:42:26 was in the packet right
1:42:28 yeah yeah it was it was
1:42:33 and the important thing is that um
1:42:38 it starts we the members of the
1:42:40 transportation advisory board
1:42:42 this is why we needed you all here
1:42:46 because this letter represents
1:42:50 the handoff of this draft plan
1:42:55 some of the important words to me and
1:42:57 i'm just going to ask you to read it
1:42:58 critically
1:42:59 and and and wordsmith or
1:43:02 or say that something should be in there
1:43:04 that's not in there
1:43:06 the um i think it's important to say
1:43:08 that it's a draft plan
1:43:10 okay go ahead tom this is tom in the
1:43:12 bullets we talked about
1:43:13 elevate the safety increase access
1:43:15 recognize the importance of
1:43:17 climate change uh and i think it's
1:43:20 one of the things that there's it's not
1:43:22 said is addressing the different
1:43:24 transportation modes and their
1:43:26 connections
1:43:28 which is kind of key of the
1:43:32 master mobility mastermind in a way
1:43:39 one of the bullets in there and then uh
1:43:43 i highlighted uh
1:43:47 it just sounds a little strange as far
1:43:49 as advancing the draft mobility master
1:43:50 plan through the rest of the public
1:43:52 process involved in adoption
1:43:54 i kind of know what that means maybe
1:43:59 semantics but just
1:44:02 the rest of the public process through
1:44:04 adoption or through to adoption
1:44:08 it's a little nitpicky but i was just it
1:44:10 just read a little strange when i was
1:44:12 reading that
1:44:13 yeah that's down at the bottom i can't
1:44:14 see that part um on the screen right now
1:44:17 stephen if you scroll up
1:44:18 that'd be great okay so that last
1:44:22 sentence
1:44:23 scroll up just to touch oh yeah you've
1:44:24 got it right there okay
1:44:26 so what did you want there is that it
1:44:29 did you already edit it no you didn't
1:44:32 what do you want there
1:44:36 um i think that mppt the rest of the
1:44:40 public process
1:44:41 may be processed through to adoption
1:44:46 okay involved in adoption
1:44:55 [Music]
1:44:57 because i think what we're trying to say
1:45:00 is the public process
1:45:01 is is
1:45:04 everything moving forward the council
1:45:06 meetings immediately
1:45:07 as opposed to just a public process
1:45:09 which means to be like a public comment
1:45:12 but this is basically the whole public
1:45:14 process as far as going to the council
1:45:16 and voting and being implemented
1:45:20 yeah i'm going to have you pause for a
1:45:21 moment because i think stephen's going
1:45:24 um he's going to come go out and come
1:45:26 back in
1:45:27 so that's when he comes back in and
1:45:29 brings us back up on the screen
1:45:31 uh we will look at that closing comment
1:45:34 you can help him
1:45:35 craft that time and then um
1:45:39 i'm not seeing anyone else in the chat
1:45:41 okay sujata
1:45:52 consultant fears appears there's a comma
1:45:54 and then a period should probably just
1:45:55 period oh yeah okay got it
1:46:00 okay sujata are you on
1:46:03 hi this is sujata um so one of the
1:46:06 things i was wondering about is in the
1:46:08 in that i think it's the second
1:46:10 paragraph where it says in accordance
1:46:13 you know county code or city code blah
1:46:15 blah blah
1:46:17 so the second sentence instead of saying
1:46:19 throughout
1:46:20 the mmp development process the board
1:46:23 priorities have been clear
1:46:25 could we say something more because the
1:46:27 whole idea is like you know these are
1:46:29 this is the plan but the plan is
1:46:32 here to achieve a vision so could we
1:46:34 change that language to be more
1:46:37 along the ideas of you know as
1:46:40 you know as a board we feel
1:46:42 implementation
1:46:43 robust implementation of this plan will
1:46:46 lead to
1:46:48 you know or will you know elevate safety
1:46:52 so basically this is a plan but we as a
1:46:54 board
1:46:56 don't see it just at to cynthia's point
1:46:58 of a plan that gets put on a shelf
1:47:00 but that we're really also as we're
1:47:02 transmitting this plan
1:47:04 we're encouraging the council to really
1:47:07 acknowledge
1:47:08 that we want to see implementation of it
1:47:11 um and so um you know elevate
1:47:15 and through implementation we would
1:47:17 elevate safety to that as the highest
1:47:19 priority for our system
1:47:20 um you know i i think the increased
1:47:23 access to services with people with
1:47:25 higher needs
1:47:26 is is also important but the other one i
1:47:28 was wondering about is and maybe it's in
1:47:30 bullet point one where we say
1:47:32 elevate safety and connectivity because
1:47:35 i feel like one of our big priorities we
1:47:37 talk about and even
1:47:39 in our ranking prioritization if it
1:47:42 connects stuff to stuff
1:47:45 it's a higher priority and so i don't
1:47:47 see connectivity there
1:47:49 so i feel like that was one of our big
1:47:50 guiding principles so maybe that
1:47:53 elevate safety and connectivity or
1:47:55 something
1:47:56 um in the first bullet point yeah you
1:47:59 know that brings up a question may i
1:48:01 ask uh if uh there are these
1:48:05 there's the guiding principles which are
1:48:06 are supposed to be the
1:48:08 you know the the touchstone for
1:48:10 everything it does it doesn't
1:48:12 um is it suitable to the guiding
1:48:13 principles and then there are these
1:48:14 things like
1:48:15 separate things and i'm not disagreeing
1:48:17 that these things aren't important
1:48:19 but they were never really codified like
1:48:21 the guiding principles were
1:48:23 yeah so i i was a little so i was
1:48:25 actually basically just trying to
1:48:26 shoehorn organic principles
1:48:28 put a gutting principle in here so maybe
1:48:31 instead of these bullet points if we
1:48:33 could just put
1:48:34 you know robust implementation of this
1:48:36 plan will lead to
1:48:38 this outcome of you know a safer kind of
1:48:41 interconnected
1:48:44 modal you know mom and apple pie
1:48:47 you know all those things you know
1:48:48 improve climate blah blah blah
1:48:51 so it feels like that okay
1:48:54 what if we left these three
1:48:57 and i can't remember steven's going to
1:48:59 bring it up because i can't remember
1:49:00 which one tom
1:49:01 added i mean there's uh there might be
1:49:04 room here
1:49:05 for leaving these three bullet points
1:49:06 and then adding the guiding principles
1:49:08 as bullet points just the um
1:49:10 the bolded keywords
1:49:14 so that the guiding principles get into
1:49:16 this document that's something
1:49:17 because we name them but um really
1:49:20 they're they're so important that
1:49:23 it might be worth saying you know where
1:49:26 we say we incorporated these priorities
1:49:28 into the guiding principles colon those
1:49:30 bullet points
1:49:31 and employ these principles too maybe
1:49:34 that helps tell the whole story
1:49:36 you know it's like a mini mini mini
1:49:38 executive summary
1:49:39 yeah but i feel like the guiding
1:49:41 principles were so fundamental
1:49:43 and especially when you see the product
1:49:45 of the list
1:49:47 they're they're really fundamental and i
1:49:49 just feel like they should be on the
1:49:50 letter
1:49:51 so some way that sentence could be
1:49:52 something like the the board is taking
1:49:55 i'm just like this episode along the um
1:49:59 and you're kept at the forefront the
1:50:00 guiding principles that
1:50:04 [Music]
1:50:05 you list them there or saying the
1:50:06 guiding principles that have
1:50:09 prioritized or have uh
1:50:14 trying to persuade themselves something
1:50:16 that was components
1:50:17 can steven bring up the letter again
1:50:19 thank you welcome back stephen
1:50:25 i can't hear you
1:50:40 hmm oh there he is
1:50:44 we're going to finish this and you and
1:50:46 you got some this is
1:50:47 uh this is a tool and implement this
1:50:50 letter
1:50:50 and i think the most important thing
1:50:53 that we've learned in this meeting
1:50:55 as we've talked to one another is the
1:50:57 level of confidence that we have in the
1:50:58 draft plan
1:50:59 that it's on a good path and so i think
1:51:02 we don't need to be
1:51:03 they will have a draft plan but i think
1:51:07 we want this letter to include those
1:51:09 things that we think are our top of mind
1:51:11 so we can just kind of get to the point
1:51:13 and get it done
1:51:15 there we go
1:51:23 um so i think the screen crashed when
1:51:26 you were working on the fourth bullet
1:51:28 that's at multiple modes
1:51:29 and address uh you know maybe
1:51:32 switch out to maybe that's where it can
1:51:34 save multiple modes and increases
1:51:36 connectivity
1:51:39 about that yeah addressing the different
1:51:42 transportation modes and their connect
1:51:44 and their connections or connectivity
1:51:47 uh and you know what um it has to be a
1:51:49 verb at the beginning of that to say
1:51:51 increase votes and
1:51:55 awesome connectivity or something and
1:51:58 then get rid of the second increase
1:52:04 okay okay close getting close and then
1:52:07 tom has a
1:52:08 typo in the last paragraph after fair
1:52:11 and piers
1:52:11 there's an unnecessary comma
1:52:16 and then sujata that
1:52:20 statement before the bullet points where
1:52:22 it says throughout the development
1:52:23 process the board priorities have been
1:52:25 clear
1:52:26 i liked your suggestion to say something
1:52:29 like we feel this plan
1:52:30 will um something like that such out to
1:52:34 is that what you were saying yeah what i
1:52:37 was saying is we feel that you know
1:52:39 something along the lines of
1:52:40 you know robust implementation of this
1:52:43 plan will
1:52:44 yeah yeah yeah okay so we're saying
1:52:46 we're transmitting the plan but that we
1:52:48 we have all confidence in the counsel
1:52:50 that they will figure out how to
1:52:52 implement this too
1:52:53 okay so take that sentence right there
1:52:55 you're going to replace in the second
1:52:57 paragraph
1:52:58 the phrase that says throughout the mmp
1:53:00 development process the board
1:53:02 priorities have been clear that's going
1:53:05 to be replaced with
1:53:07 we feel the robust implementation of
1:53:11 plan will
1:53:14 result in and it'll will elevate safety
1:53:18 will increase access will recognize and
1:53:20 will increase
1:53:21 right so move that
1:53:25 yeah and then get ready jump in since i
1:53:28 my comments
1:53:29 uh i hate using we feel i would say the
1:53:32 board
1:53:33 strongly recommends
1:53:36 no at the first part of that sentence i
1:53:40 sorry i don't mean to say i hate i think
1:53:42 we feel is
1:53:43 too soft the strong recommends
1:53:53 uh then at the end of the sentence
1:53:55 instead of will it can say in order to
1:54:01 great okay so then and then the other
1:54:04 sentence
1:54:05 throughout the mmp process
1:54:10 we can remove that right there we go
1:54:17 you guys are awesome i have a comment
1:54:20 about that one
1:54:21 too this is cynthia um so
1:54:26 it i think right there the board uh
1:54:29 it was the board was formed and the
1:54:32 comment that i made to
1:54:33 counsel i i wanna i think it's worth
1:54:35 reiterating here the board
1:54:37 is diverse um and you could even say
1:54:40 age professional background demographics
1:54:42 whatever you want um but we were
1:54:44 remarkably unified
1:54:46 in the priorities and guiding principles
1:54:50 and thinking about the fact that they
1:54:56 uh yeah there we go
1:55:01 um i have a comment instead of saying
1:55:03 the board is diverse
1:55:05 but unified can we say and and
1:55:08 yeah good idea thank you
1:55:12 i love this you know i do this for a
1:55:13 living but this is more fun than when i
1:55:15 do it by myself i love this
1:55:21 sweet any others i think we're getting
1:55:23 close here okay
1:55:32 one more call yeah you have the board
1:55:36 and the pub should be a capital p you
1:55:37 have the board as diverse and then you
1:55:38 have the board's song you recommend
1:55:40 so because we have it there maybe the
1:55:43 board is diverse and unified in organic
1:55:45 principles
1:55:46 we strongly recommend robust
1:55:49 implementation
1:55:51 in order to good
1:56:00 thing when we approve uh such documents
1:56:02 as this
1:56:03 um stephen clarify for me
1:56:06 there may be a grammatical correction
1:56:10 still after the board has
1:56:13 approved as long as the substance of the
1:56:15 letter does not change isn't that
1:56:17 correct
1:56:18 yes okay okay
1:56:21 okay yeah we'll i'll work with nina and
1:56:23 cynthia to make sure
1:56:24 this is getting the message from
1:56:26 tonight's discussion
1:56:30 okay so in that case uh since this is an
1:56:32 action
1:56:33 and then you go back to my notes and see
1:56:35 how i do this
1:56:37 um we're going to do another vote kind
1:56:38 of like the vote we did for the
1:56:40 minutes uh i think i need a
1:56:43 motion because this is an action can
1:56:45 anybody move
1:56:47 to um to
1:56:50 finalize this letter and send it to the
1:56:52 administration in the city council
1:56:54 can we say adopt this finalizes an
1:56:57 action okay yeah
1:56:58 okay right okay why don't you make that
1:57:00 motion
1:57:01 still moved
1:57:05 and uh and who was it i'm sorry it was
1:57:07 um emma who's second
1:57:09 sure okay is that is that adequate for
1:57:13 emotion stephen
1:57:16 okay i'll uh i'll call your name just
1:57:18 going the way it is on my screen because
1:57:20 it's easier for me to keep track
1:57:22 and so then unmute yourself if you muted
1:57:24 say your name and say irony
1:57:26 tom tom hi
1:57:30 uchata hi
1:57:34 cynthia cynthia i
1:57:37 emma emma i
1:57:41 toby kobe i
1:57:46 maddie maddie i
1:57:50 marissa
1:57:55 and you all moved and so i hope i got
1:57:57 you on the screen moved around
1:57:59 and nina i and put me down as an eye for
1:58:02 that minute
1:58:03 earlier too okay so that's approved
1:58:07 unanimously to adopt this letter to the
1:58:11 administration
1:58:12 and the council as edited tonight yes
1:58:15 big round of applause for everybody
1:58:18 now we are at the end of our time but
1:58:20 the agenda still has
1:58:22 on it a couple little items there's
1:58:24 staff report chair report and youth
1:58:25 report stephen is there a staff report
1:58:28 yes really quick um we are in the
1:58:31 process to hire a new transportation
1:58:32 manager kurt retired
1:58:34 last week so our
1:58:37 bob york our engineering manager for our
1:58:39 stormwater environmental group is
1:58:41 currently in charge
1:58:43 we are hoping we applications were due
1:58:46 recently so we're hoping to do
1:58:48 interviews very soon
1:58:50 and then later this year potentially
1:58:52 early next year we'll be
1:58:54 uh looking to get our new public works
1:58:56 director
1:58:58 and then the other update i have is on
1:59:00 the streetery so that
1:59:02 is something you remember that is a
1:59:04 recommendation from the recovery task
1:59:06 force
1:59:07 it is now going into its fifth weekend
1:59:09 this coming weekend so it's it's going
1:59:11 strong
1:59:12 it's receiving a lot of great feedback
1:59:14 from the community and the businesses
1:59:16 some of the businesses are actually
1:59:18 reporting record sales
1:59:19 uh even compared to pre-covered so
1:59:22 it's it's going fairly successful for
1:59:24 them um
1:59:26 we're working with retailers to expand
1:59:28 some of their exposures because people
1:59:30 are still
1:59:30 wondering who's still open and
1:59:33 try to get them involved in some of this
1:59:35 a little bit more so we can
1:59:37 benefit more of the businesses city-wide
1:59:41 businesses are being allowed to expand
1:59:43 their outdoor seating into private
1:59:45 parking lots for those who aren't down
1:59:47 on front street so
1:59:48 we're trying to allow more of these
1:59:51 businesses to be able to do this
1:59:52 citywide
1:59:56 the the only thing that's changed more
1:59:58 recently is that the street area
1:59:59 expanded to
2:00:00 include sundays as well so it's not just
2:00:02 friday saturdays so it's also sundays
2:00:05 um and the i right now it's gonna go
2:00:08 until the end of september
2:00:09 so there's still plenty of time to go
2:00:10 and enjoy it if you haven't been down
2:00:12 there yet
2:00:14 that's all i got that's an excellent
2:00:18 report stephen
2:00:19 thank you and and what he didn't say was
2:00:22 that he was like holding us up
2:00:24 all this year on his own with the
2:00:26 staffing needs and and
2:00:28 it's an opportunity right now for all of
2:00:30 us to put our all of us to put our hands
2:00:32 up and say thank you to stephen
2:00:38 you know i appreciate that but you know
2:00:40 a lot of how the master plan was put
2:00:42 together was
2:00:42 due to a lot of your hard work going
2:00:44 into these meetings and
2:00:46 extra readings and so i i definitely
2:00:48 appreciate all your time as well
2:00:50 thank you very good thank you stephen uh
2:00:53 the chair um i think i reported enough
2:00:55 tonight
2:00:56 tonight was kind of my report uh and i
2:00:59 wonder if there's a youth report
2:01:01 there very well could be no okay and
2:01:04 then the
2:01:05 um next thing would be uh when
2:01:08 is our next meeting because um
2:01:12 the um this is a committee that keeps
2:01:15 working
2:01:15 this isn't like we're done so stephen
2:01:18 how would you like to cap it off that
2:01:19 i i think we're going to be looking at
2:01:21 trying to do a
2:01:23 a october meeting will probably be our
2:01:25 next meeting
2:01:26 um just because of what we're doing
2:01:30 for this month and next month i think
2:01:32 october will probably be the best time
2:01:33 for us to meet again
2:01:36 yeah there's the uh october 8th
2:01:40 of the public the public hearing is part
2:01:42 of the plan process yeah
2:01:43 i think at that point um
2:01:46 that will have we'll have enough
2:01:48 feedback from everybody that will be
2:01:50 able to touch base again and let you
2:01:52 if there's any changes or what changes
2:01:54 might be happening with the master plan
2:01:55 before it goes to
2:01:57 city council in november and december
2:01:59 this is tom would that be a good time to
2:02:01 have it after
2:02:01 that public hearing then mid october
2:02:05 late october
2:02:06 yes yes and i'll check in with everybody
2:02:08 to see
2:02:09 um who who's available and when
2:02:13 excellent yeah we'll get that on the
2:02:14 calendar as soon as we can so we
2:02:16 hear the date okay great
2:02:20 well um that's a a couple months from
2:02:22 now i'm looking at all your faces for a
2:02:25 last here it's a little not a good buy
2:02:28 it's just another little break as our
2:02:30 plan goes off in into the world and gets
2:02:33 worked on
2:02:35 but again thank you all for uh being
2:02:37 here tonight and sticking through this
2:02:38 this has been
2:02:39 a challenge you know with the way that
2:02:43 business with the city changed this year
2:02:44 during covid and it's a big project
2:02:47 besides so i think thanks to everybody
2:02:50 for all your hard work thanks again
2:02:51 stephen
2:02:53 before we adjourn i would like to
2:02:56 say congratulations to all our youth
2:02:58 members
2:03:00 for going off to college soon um
2:03:03 because they're going off to college
2:03:04 they won't be able to join us anymore
2:03:07 uh but i want to take this opportunity
2:03:08 to at least congratulate them and say
2:03:10 thank you
2:03:10 for all your hard work because you
2:03:12 you've definitely been a great
2:03:14 contribution
2:03:15 as part of this board and we really
2:03:16 appreciate it
2:03:19 absolutely i think it was tsujata who
2:03:21 said earlier now i can't remember who
2:03:23 said it because it was at the first
2:03:24 meeting i mean straight out of the gate
2:03:26 these guys have been a real asset to
2:03:29 this group
2:03:30 and uh it's been a delight working with
2:03:31 all of you
2:03:33 thank you steve and perspective and
2:03:36 sticking with it
2:03:37 the whole time through everything that's
2:03:39 going on most recently as well so
2:03:42 crazy all right thank you
2:03:46 so much like i know i've definitely
2:03:48 learned
2:03:49 so much during this last year and a half
2:03:51 with you guys
2:03:52 and it's been a it's been an experience
2:03:55 so thank you for teaching me and i guess
2:03:58 all of us
2:04:01 it's been fun good luck on september
2:04:16 does kobe or maddie want to say
2:04:17 something
2:04:20 um i mean i think emma summed it up very
2:04:24 i want to thank all of you guys for
2:04:28 all the great all the great work you've
2:04:30 done and i know i've learned a lot
2:04:32 transportation is a very complex issue
2:04:34 um and there are a lot of times i feel
2:04:36 very lost but
2:04:39 i i i'm really proud of the work that
2:04:41 we've all done and
2:04:43 yeah just thank you for being so awesome
2:04:50 daddy's nodding but she's not saying
2:04:52 anything
2:04:54 oh well i think yeah kobe and emma
2:04:57 really said it all
2:04:58 but um just like echoing what they said
2:05:01 i just want to thank everyone
2:05:03 for um supporting us throughout this
2:05:07 entire
2:05:08 month and like year that we've been
2:05:10 working together and also for all your
2:05:12 patients as we
2:05:13 kind of learn the ropes with city
2:05:16 council volunteering and like
2:05:18 the local government work um but yeah
2:05:21 we've definitely learned so much and i'm
2:05:22 excited to
2:05:24 like take everything i've learned into
2:05:26 college and
2:05:28 the world yeah
2:05:32 thank you and and it's this they're so
2:05:34 humble i mean here they are
2:05:35 saying that we gave things to them and
2:05:37 you kidding it's
2:05:39 it's what you brought to us really um
2:05:42 i don't know what we gave you nothing
2:05:44 you brought it all
2:05:46 so with that and thank you stephen for
2:05:48 bringing that up
2:05:50 send them off we'll send off the draft
2:05:52 plan and we will adjourn
2:05:54 the transportation advisory board for
2:05:56 august 6th at 8 08 pm
2:05:59 not too far after the time
2:06:02 thanks everybody good night