Park Board · Monday, January 27, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Membership

packet pp.3

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Staff report:

Park Board About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this board provides guidance and Milissa Ching, Office Manager direction in meeting the City’s parks and Email recreational needs by advising the Mayor and Parks & Recreation Director on matters relating to the Regular Members planning; acquisition, development; and operation 2022 - Bradley Book of parks, facilities and recreational programs inside 2022 - Ruben Nieto the City limits. 2022 - Jonathan Richardson 2022 - Linda Whitworth Membership 2023 - Chris Kovac The Park Board is comprised of nine regular 2020 - Joe Frauenheim members, with four-year terms; and two 2020 - Carl Riess alternates, with two-year terms. All members are 2021 - Jeremy Noble appointed by the Mayor and subject to 2021 - Danielle Wolfrom Githens confirmation by the City Council. Terms expire April 30 of the year listed. For more information, see Alternate Members…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of November 25, 2019

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Staff report:

 Goals and measurements  Marketing and outreach  Long-term investment and care/maintenance

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

2020 Department Work Plan

Director · 30 min · Jeff Watling, Parks and Community Services · packet pp.9–11

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Staff report:

Parks Administration and Park Planning  Initiate Park Master Plans – TVP, Memorial Park, Issaquah Creek Corridor  Bergsma Acquisition – KC LCI Grant  E Sunset Trailhead – DNR partnership and PSE agreement  Front Street Properties – Interim use plan and implement  Park Plan Goals and Policies – Reformat  SLT / City Council coordination - ONGOING 

Parks Master Plans

Director and Jennifer Fink, Park Planner · 50 min · Jeff Watling, Parks and Community Services · packet pp.13–17

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

TIBBETTS VALLEY PARK 37.5 ACRES - 1.64M SF ISSAQUAH TRANSIT

5. REPORTS

Director's Report

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Chairperson's Report

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0:32 ↗ welcome to the Jen

0:34 ↗ 27 2020 park board meeting our first of

0:38 ↗ the year and thanks everyone for coming

0:41 ↗ we have two main items on the agenda

0:44 ↗ this evening just going to talk about

0:48 ↗ that 2020 department work plan and Jeff

0:52 ↗ and Jennifer gonna also talk about the

0:54 ↗ parks master plans that we have in

0:58 ↗ motion and those are the two main items

1:01 ↗ this evening everybody have an

1:05 ↗ opportunity to review meetings from our

1:07 ↗ in November we didn't have a December of

1:09 ↗ meeting any comments questions changes

1:13 ↗ it's not going to have a motion to

1:16 ↗ approve

1:18 ↗ we'd like to second that second all in

1:22 ↗ favor please say aye

1:23 ↗ okay it's our approve thank you

1:29 ↗ we don't have any one from the community

1:31 ↗ here this evening so we'll move past

1:33 ↗ audience comments to the agenda all

1:40 ↗ right oh good evening everybody

1:45 ↗ yeah I thought we did this last year as

1:48 ↗ well last January if you may recall but

1:50 ↗ with it with an added twist this year I

1:53 ↗ wanted to both take a look back at 2019

1:57 ↗ and some of our accomplishments and then

1:59 ↗ I look ahead to 2020 you've got two

2:03 ↗ sheets that were in the agenda the first

2:06 ↗ one has is 2019 and is some blue to it

2:10 ↗ without the chicken scratch of my

2:12 ↗ handwriting and then 2020 I thought I'd

2:15 ↗ take a look at and just walk through

2:17 ↗ some of our 2019 accomplishments this

2:20 ↗ format might look familiar to you and

2:22 ↗ that this is really just a quick sort of

2:26 ↗ at glance look that we have as a

2:28 ↗ department at really those major items

2:30 ↗ those items we know are going to either

2:32 ↗ have a heavy community touch or some

2:35 ↗ type of council policy decision just

2:39 ↗ looking through 2019

2:41 ↗ [Music]

2:42 ↗ we've broken these out into our major

2:45 ↗ sort of work teams or work departments

2:48 ↗ so within parks administration and Park

2:49 ↗ Planning I really within all the

2:53 ↗ departments got a lot done I won't go

2:57 ↗ through every single one of these but

2:59 ↗ we'll highlight some of them and then

3:00 ↗ pause Before we jump into 2020 if you

3:03 ↗ have any additional questions or

3:05 ↗ comments you might want to add some of

3:08 ↗ what we're going to talk about tonight

3:09 ↗ the continuation of our taking a look at

3:12 ↗ those three really anchor Park elements

3:14 ↗ of the system with those Park master

3:16 ↗ plans we set about set a goal of

3:19 ↗ initiating that last year we got that

3:21 ↗ done we're really happy with our first

3:23 ↗ wave of public engagement we did last

3:25 ↗ summer mithoon architects is our

3:29 ↗ consultant and network and we think

3:31 ↗ they've been doing a just a terrific job

3:32 ↗ responding to all the feedback we've

3:35 ↗ heard less someone the birds back

3:37 ↗ position was obviously a big big

3:40 ↗ priority a big lift

3:42 ↗ within that acquisition to our first way

3:45 ↗ our first significant grant to assist

3:47 ↗ with that acquisition effort was

3:50 ↗ accomplished last year with the 5.3

3:53 ↗ million dollars we received from King

3:55 ↗ County another big acquisition effort

4:00 ↗ that you may recall occurred on the east

4:02 ↗ sunset trailhead a little different

4:05 ↗ approach to acquisition and that we

4:06 ↗ partnered with Department of Natural

4:08 ↗ Resources DNR they actually were the

4:12 ↗ ones who purchased we contributed to

4:14 ↗ that sale that they bought we also were

4:17 ↗ able to successfully negotiate after

4:20 ↗ years of efforts with Puget Sound energy

4:23 ↗ that trail had really relies heavily on

4:26 ↗ two important PSE corridors that we

4:30 ↗ needed and wanted to assure ourselves

4:33 ↗ with long-term recreational access we

4:36 ↗ were able to get that accomplished as

4:39 ↗ you recall we adopted the park strategic

4:41 ↗ plan into 2018

4:43 ↗ through that adoption we also there was

4:46 ↗ a desire by council to take a look at

4:48 ↗ goals and policies so thank you not only

4:50 ↗ to the work of Park planning staff but

4:52 ↗ to you all as a Park Board

4:55 ↗ and the subgroup that helped in that

4:57 ↗ lift if I recall Jonathan Chris and rad

5:01 ↗ all took part in that we were able to

5:03 ↗ get that accomplished so some great work

5:06 ↗ within that group within Park operations

5:09 ↗ complex park we if you recall

5:13 ↗ successfully receive some state grant

5:15 ↗ funds to assist with converting those

5:20 ↗ sort of lumpy lawn areas of confluence

5:23 ↗ park into an irrigated lawns space that

5:26 ↗ got accomplished and completed will be

5:28 ↗ exciting to see the spring and summer as

5:30 ↗ that Park will really sort of have a new

5:32 ↗ function and some new uses that the

5:36 ↗ community will be able to enjoy Falls

5:40 ↗ Drive trail if you're familiar with

5:42 ↗ where that is that a joined Central Park

5:46 ↗ down into a neighborhood to the west of

5:51 ↗ the park with in Issaquah Highlands it's

5:54 ↗ a trail that started to see some root

5:58 ↗ damage it was an asphalt trail it also

6:00 ↗ had some speed conflicts that we were

6:03 ↗ seeing with long borders and other

6:07 ↗ faster moving trail users than walkers

6:11 ↗ so we did some improvements to help

6:15 ↗ reduce those those conflicts there also

6:20 ↗ within Park operations we've been

6:22 ↗ working Brian and Patterson and McClure

6:26 ↗ who are leadership within our operations

6:29 ↗ teams on refining and updating and

6:32 ↗ taking a new approach to our Park

6:33 ↗ resource management plan we're able to

6:34 ↗ get that accomplished within our

6:37 ↗ facilities team we took a really a first

6:40 ↗ look a little more a different look at

6:46 ↗ our city hall facilities and when I say

6:48 ↗ City Hall facilities really the three

6:51 ↗ buildings that make up City Hall in this

6:53 ↗ community the building we're in called

6:55 ↗ City Hall Northwest City Hall South

6:58 ↗ where the city council chambers are and

7:01 ↗ City Hall police the police department

7:04 ↗ the brick building that you're probably

7:05 ↗ most

7:06 ↗ familiar with really take a look at all

7:08 ↗ three of those buildings collectively

7:10 ↗ and really evaluating and assessing the

7:13 ↗ current condition they're in we're

7:15 ↗ really on the edge of needing to invest

7:18 ↗ and reinvest a lot of money into these

7:20 ↗ three buildings and how do we take an

7:24 ↗ honest assessment and get an honest

7:26 ↗ sense of do we as a community want to

7:29 ↗ make the the significant investments

7:32 ↗ into these facilities or do we want to

7:34 ↗ begin planning for a new approach to how

7:39 ↗ we provide those city services so we get

7:41 ↗ that done some other lifecycle

7:47 ↗ replacement work that facilities did

7:49 ↗ within those City Hall buildings

7:51 ↗ Pickering barn if you've ever been to an

7:54 ↗ event on the dairy barn side you know

7:56 ↗ Pickering barn there's the hay barn it's

7:58 ↗ the tall wood one that looks like a barn

8:00 ↗ a long narrow one is the dairy bar and

8:04 ↗ we're able to get the acoustic panels

8:05 ↗ and we'll also be doing in the coming

8:10 ↗ years and an evaluation of HVAC system I

8:14 ↗ know a couple you park board members

8:16 ↗ Jeremy in particular is certainly asked

8:18 ↗ for that as well within recreation boy

8:22 ↗ it seems like the Senior Center that's

8:26 ↗ all right

8:26 ↗ it seems like the Senior Center it does

8:34 ↗ see it seems like a long time we've been

8:36 ↗ operating that it was just this last

8:37 ↗ year and beginning of January that we

8:40 ↗ actually made that official transition

8:42 ↗ to a longer term City operation with

8:44 ↗ full-time staff there in the facilities

8:48 ↗ so terrific work by the senior center

8:51 ↗ team and really the entire recreation

8:52 ↗ team for that for that effort as we made

8:57 ↗ the modifications at the end of 2018

8:59 ↗ with the new flooring at the community

9:02 ↗ center last year was really a good

9:04 ↗ initial transition I think that will be

9:06 ↗ ongoing and how we modify programs how

9:09 ↗ we look at new opportunities that those

9:12 ↗ hardwood floors

9:13 ↗ provide us with the shift to our new

9:16 ↗ software system - Melissa's been leading

9:19 ↗ this effort with our customer service

9:21 ↗ team looking at our business practices

9:23 ↗ and how to implement really the new are

9:28 ↗ the new tools that come with that that

9:29 ↗ software system as well all the work we

9:34 ↗ got accomplished there were a couple of

9:36 ↗ items on the on the 19 work plan that we

9:39 ↗ made great progress that are being

9:41 ↗ extended into into 20 20 some of that

9:43 ↗ was to be expected the dog park

9:46 ↗ certainly as we talked about that at our

9:48 ↗ last park board meeting as we've made

9:50 ↗ great progress in identifying a location

9:52 ↗ doing some initial design now really

9:55 ↗ what's left is seeing through permitting

9:58 ↗ and getting construction built this year

10:00 ↗ the bike park at Central Park remains a

10:03 ↗ workplan item for us we've got a great

10:04 ↗ partnership in tact with evergreen

10:06 ↗ mountain bike Alliance now it's really

10:08 ↗ aligning funding so with some successful

10:11 ↗ grant funding we hope to get that done

10:13 ↗ this year we also made great progress on

10:16 ↗ starting to look at our park signage and

10:19 ↗ city wayfinding it's a trail wayfinding

10:22 ↗ and other wayfinding throughout the city

10:23 ↗ to create a more uniform design and look

10:26 ↗ to that the swamp trail boardwalk if

10:30 ↗ you're familiar with that up at Lake

10:32 ↗ tradition plateau a very popular family

10:34 ↗ trail that boardwalk is near completion

10:37 ↗ we're going to just wrap up that work

10:40 ↗ here in the first quarter so it's ready

10:41 ↗ for spring and summer spring and summer

10:45 ↗ funds so I'm going to pause before I

10:48 ↗ jump into 2020 to see if there's any

10:50 ↗ questions comments about a quick year

10:55 ↗ and review very very busy year for us

11:00 ↗ as a park signage and trail wayfinding

11:05 ↗ you're you're coming up with a new

11:07 ↗ design you're not like actually changing

11:11 ↗ are you changing the signs at this time

11:13 ↗ or we're likely yes so that'll be part

11:18 ↗ of the community engagement efforts so

11:20 ↗ this this effort isn't just looking at

11:22 ↗ park signage but it's really looking at

11:24 ↗ how there are probably a dozen different

11:29 ↗ varieties of park signs or wayfinding

11:32 ↗ signs so yeah this is trying to come up

11:36 ↗ with a look in a field that says

11:38 ↗ Issaquah but can become a uniform

11:42 ↗ standard throughout our public system

11:45 ↗ this work is really the design effort

11:48 ↗ with the community engagement actual

11:50 ↗ implementation will likely be a number

11:53 ↗ of years and sort of phased over time

11:55 ↗ either as science been damaged or as

11:58 ↗ investments are made just want to

12:01 ↗ reiterate like a my concern about Arden

12:03 ↗ the names of our parks are not all

12:05 ↗ consistent as far as but to help kind of

12:09 ↗ really identify what happens at that

12:11 ↗ park or what activities are available

12:13 ↗ right not so I will make sure that we're

12:15 ↗ thinking about that and potentially

12:17 ↗ coming changing those before we spend

12:20 ↗ money on new signs no that's a great a

12:23 ↗ great point and I think one that

12:25 ↗ certainly came up throughout our park

12:26 ↗ strategic plan process right is how do

12:29 ↗ we take cues on what the parks are named

12:32 ↗ what what actually named a park area or

12:37 ↗ something else so yes great point as far

12:43 ↗ as dog park when would you hear back on

12:46 ↗ permitting

12:48 ↗ we ready to move forward at some time in

12:51 ↗ March are in process right now we've

12:54 ↗ done an upcoming meeting would hope yeah

12:57 ↗ likely March in the next month or two

13:00 ↗ would still like to try and get the

13:02 ↗ Front's group together so we can start

13:04 ↗ kind of staging our construction once I

13:07 ↗ get a little more information from our

13:09 ↗ development services department and then

13:11 ↗ we can start staging our construction

13:13 ↗ before we proceed after we go through

13:16 ↗ the permitting process we will need to

13:18 ↗ get final approval from City Council

13:20 ↗ before we can actually start work

13:26 ↗ project so next page sort of taking a

13:33 ↗ look at next year here we go in the 2020

13:39 ↗ I'll point out and I'll mention a little

13:42 ↗ bit further our directors report that

13:44 ↗ the name of the department is super

13:46 ↗ parks and Community Services we've had a

13:50 ↗ little bit of an agency a city agency

13:52 ↗ reorge

13:53 ↗ so we've taken on a couple new roles as

13:55 ↗ a department that I'll touch on again

13:57 ↗ into the director's report and you'll

14:00 ↗ see somewhat folded into this work plan

14:03 ↗ work within parks administration Park

14:07 ↗ planning some of those projects that had

14:10 ↗ a strong start and looked to complete

14:13 ↗ next year dog park the bike park our

14:17 ↗ Park master plans for our anchor parks

14:19 ↗ that we'll be talking about tonight

14:20 ↗ those three parks as you'll as we've

14:24 ↗ shared before we're really at that point

14:26 ↗ of this next wave of engagement that as

14:29 ↗ those plans get adopted in 2020 those

14:32 ↗ will be adopted as three separate

14:35 ↗ [Music]

14:37 ↗ plants per Park we're gonna pursue a

14:42 ↗ state our CEO grant so as we were

14:44 ↗ successful in getting a king county

14:46 ↗ grant for Bergsma you may recall at the

14:49 ↗ time we bought the property we've

14:51 ↗ submitted what's called a waiver of

14:53 ↗ retroactivity to the state our Co

14:56 ↗ Department that allows us to now apply

14:58 ↗ for grant funding since it's a grant

15:01 ↗ cycle year this year as if we haven't

15:03 ↗ bought it so we think we will be able to

15:06 ↗ be very competitive in getting another

15:10 ↗ multi-million dollar grant to assist

15:12 ↗ with that with that acquisition effort

15:15 ↗ we finding parts of trail signage plan

15:18 ↗ we touched a bait based on that briefly

15:21 ↗ the trails themselves on the birds no

15:24 ↗ property or what is now Harvey Manning

15:26 ↗ Park we want to do an initial phase of

15:30 ↗ some trail work there to at least get a

15:33 ↗ couple of key corridors completed within

15:36 ↗ that Park Washington Trails Association

15:39 ↗ Mountain Tucson Greenway some of our

15:40 ↗ partners of certainly expressed strong

15:43 ↗ interest in helping us with with that

15:45 ↗ effort so will be some exciting work

15:48 ↗ into 2020

15:51 ↗ I'm also on our capital plan hillside

15:54 ↗ neighborhood park long-desired

15:57 ↗ play area I think it was part of a 2014

16:00 ↗ community engagement effort we look to

16:04 ↗ do some community engagement around that

16:07 ↗ play area I think it was determined that

16:09 ↗ yes there's a desire for a play area now

16:11 ↗ let's identify a location within the

16:14 ↗ park and a type of play area and get

16:17 ↗ that installed and completed this year

16:20 ↗ the turf synthetic turf on pad three

16:24 ↗ which was our initial synthetic turf

16:26 ↗ fields of at Central Park are due for

16:28 ↗ replacement in 2021

16:30 ↗ so we want to complete this year and we

16:33 ↗ have funding in the capital plan to do

16:35 ↗ design and prepare the bid package we'd

16:37 ↗ like to get that bid out on the fourth

16:40 ↗ quarter of this year too

16:43 ↗ they catch contractors when they're most

16:46 ↗ hungry and also allow for us to have

16:51 ↗ some say in the schedule when that gets

16:53 ↗ done in 2021 not to disrupt community

16:57 ↗ use or to really minimize that

17:00 ↗ disruption so beginning that will be a

17:03 ↗ 2021 turf replacement but the work will

17:06 ↗ get started next year within Park

17:10 ↗ operations green Issaquah it's going to

17:13 ↗ be very exciting to not only launch and

17:16 ↗ adopt that forest management plan but

17:18 ↗ then really I think see how a volunteer

17:24 ↗ program and volunteer stewards can

17:27 ↗ really start to take off in 2020 the

17:32 ↗ Squawk mountain access trail if you're

17:34 ↗ familiar with this trail this sort of

17:37 ↗ connects downtown Issaquah to the south

17:40 ↗ - squawk Mountain it goes by a

17:42 ↗ development called Kok re mine help you

17:47 ↗ know where the mine Hill trail is if

17:49 ↗ you're familiar with this there are some

17:52 ↗ amenities there was a bridge there was

17:55 ↗ some other sort of decking that has

17:59 ↗ gotten to the point that it needs some

18:01 ↗ repair work done there is a new

18:04 ↗ development a new phase of the kakari

18:07 ↗ development that is under construction

18:09 ↗ right now so we feel like now is a good

18:12 ↗ time while that trail is being disrupted

18:15 ↗ by that construction project that we go

18:19 ↗ in and get these repairs done in 2020 as

18:22 ↗ well a confluence park bridge deck the

18:27 ↗ art piece if you're familiar with the

18:29 ↗ bridge decking itself the contradict

18:31 ↗ decking there's a really cool

18:32 ↗ integration of art into that concrete

18:36 ↗ decking as we've noticed in the last

18:38 ↗ couple of years we're working with the

18:40 ↗ artist some of the color pieces so that

18:44 ↗ if the inlay is some colored

18:48 ↗ handling glass won't cut anybody but

18:51 ↗ some of that glass is coming loose we

18:55 ↗ don't really like that so we want to get

18:57 ↗ we've been working with the artist and

18:59 ↗ the contract aren't a solution so we

19:01 ↗ want to get those repairs completed this

19:04 ↗ year within facilities a number of other

19:10 ↗ facility projects that we'll be working

19:14 ↗ on the first one I want to I want to

19:16 ↗ touch on this came up as part of our

19:18 ↗ budget deliberations with city council

19:21 ↗ this is really sort of taking a look

19:24 ↗ something we started last year will

19:27 ↗ continue into this year with looking at

19:29 ↗ really really inventory all of our city

19:33 ↗ properties and facilities but doing an

19:35 ↗ initial assessment of them and that

19:37 ↗ assessment really sort of asking some of

19:39 ↗ the questions only when when was this

19:42 ↗ property bought but what was its purpose

19:44 ↗ is that purpose still still current

19:49 ↗ they're still long-term need long term

19:52 ↗ plans for that and begin to evaluate and

19:58 ↗ assess those properties a number of

20:02 ↗ these properties you may or may not be

20:04 ↗ familiar with these are not our parks

20:05 ↗ these are really buildings a number of

20:08 ↗ them are in the downtown area the city

20:11 ↗ has bought single-family residential

20:13 ↗ properties over the decades some of it

20:17 ↗ part of a plan or hope for assemblage

20:20 ↗ other parts that are other properties

20:23 ↗ that aren't necessarily assembled into

20:25 ↗ anything so we really think it's an

20:28 ↗ important time to just sort of pose

20:30 ↗ these questions sort of pull all of this

20:31 ↗ out out of the attic so to speak and do

20:35 ↗ an assessment and evaluation of what

20:39 ↗ makes sense what are these still do

20:41 ↗ these still remain priority properties

20:43 ↗ for for the city

20:48 ↗ within community services number of our

20:51 ↗ recreation groups are doing some

20:52 ↗ important work some along with and again

20:56 ↗ I think I've said this as I've done this

20:57 ↗ in years past this is not meant as a as

20:59 ↗ a comprehensive work plan this is not

21:02 ↗ laying out all the programs we're doing

21:04 ↗ these are really against some of those

21:05 ↗ key either policy questions or community

21:09 ↗ questions we'll be asking under aquatics

21:11 ↗ with the the new high school being

21:14 ↗ planned and likely positioned here in

21:18 ↗ the near future we want to initiate

21:20 ↗ further discussions with this school

21:23 ↗ district about the pool itself and some

21:27 ↗ long range planning recognizing if that

21:29 ↗ new high school means another boys and

21:32 ↗ girls swim team to accommodate or to try

21:35 ↗ and accommodate at the bumps pool we

21:37 ↗ want to as they're planning and

21:39 ↗ investing in that high school also be

21:41 ↗ thinking of us working collaboratively

21:44 ↗ on the pool itself facility within our

21:52 ↗ sports group within athletics we've

21:54 ↗ worked on these last couple of months

21:56 ↗ looking at our spring soccer program

21:58 ↗ we've noticed numbers being down the

22:00 ↗ last couple years we've launched into a

22:03 ↗ new partnership with not only Issaquah

22:05 ↗ soccer club but also it's about Football

22:07 ↗ Club which is not an American football

22:09 ↗ but world football so it's another it's

22:12 ↗ another soccer club we have now two

22:14 ↗ soccer clubs in the community so

22:16 ↗ partnering with both of them on this

22:19 ↗ spring soccer program should be an

22:21 ↗ exciting launch this year community

22:25 ↗ center teams going to explore what

22:26 ↗ before after-school program might look

22:28 ↗ like for the next school year again part

22:32 ↗ of that integration with a new flooring

22:34 ↗ sort of new positioning of the community

22:36 ↗ center what opportunities do we have

22:38 ↗ there I mentioned earlier some of the

22:43 ↗ city reorg that's occurred arts the arts

22:48 ↗ component within the city the Art

22:50 ↗ Commission all the art work that's done

22:55 ↗ public art and and such really often

22:58 ↗ throughout our park system that has been

23:00 ↗ incorporated into our department and

23:02 ↗ brought into our department so

23:04 ↗ integrating that into our department

23:05 ↗ inter integrating their grant process

23:08 ↗ and everything else

23:10 ↗ Amy Dukes is the staff member who leads

23:13 ↗ the artists team

23:15 ↗ terrific terrific person she does great

23:19 ↗ work as well human services and Monica

23:24 ↗ Monica her work will be integrated into

23:27 ↗ the department as well so - very very

23:33 ↗ much community services very much

23:35 ↗ community - minded services that the

23:37 ↗ city does is now incorporated into the

23:40 ↗ work that we do within the department so

23:48 ↗ within recreation - last items sorry as

23:51 ↗ I'm focusing my eyes up on the screen I

23:54 ↗ could just look at my our specialized

23:58 ↗ recreation program which is continues to

24:02 ↗ be very very successful we want to take

24:04 ↗ a little closer look at the fee model

24:06 ↗ for the program itself we've long had a

24:09 ↗ partnership with state DSHS for a

24:14 ↗ reimbursement program that is continuing

24:16 ↗ to become more and more onerous and

24:19 ↗ cumbersome for the city to try and work

24:22 ↗ through so we want to look at some

24:25 ↗ different modeling again continue to

24:29 ↗ offer very popular programs but also

24:33 ↗ recognize our limited staff resources

24:37 ↗ and then we have long had a very popular

24:40 ↗ scholarship program I would think - it's

24:44 ↗ a really good year to take a look at

24:46 ↗ that program itself analyze how it's

24:48 ↗ being used

24:50 ↗ meeting meeting the needs of the

24:52 ↗ community so as in years past we've

24:56 ↗ gotten a lot accomplished it's it'll

24:58 ↗ it'll be a big a big work plan year this

25:01 ↗ year couldn't be done without a very

25:04 ↗ impressive team of staff within

25:09 ↗ questions yeah I quite an aquatic set

25:13 ↗ has a it's a classical district ever

25:14 ↗ considered school where I come from I've

25:19 ↗ had schools where the schools have a

25:24 ↗ pool oh yeah yeah the question whether

25:25 ↗ there's a school of multigon I would say

25:31 ↗ they have and they have not that has not

25:34 ↗ been part of their model hasn't been

25:38 ↗ part of any of them for the models of

25:40 ↗ the existing schools that are not the

25:44 ↗ case throughout the region or just the

25:46 ↗ missing part issue you know I think

25:48 ↗ there were a lot of pools are both and

25:51 ↗ like the with afford thrusts money that

25:53 ↗ we're connected with schools like but

25:55 ↗ that was a long time ago so like the

25:56 ↗ Tacoma School District they all have

25:58 ↗ pools some other school districts do

26:00 ↗ yeah Tacoma is a little different you're

26:03 ↗ right Tacoma School District has long

26:06 ↗ held

26:08 ↗ a Aquatics is sort of a core element of

26:11 ↗ what they do Daniel mentioned the King

26:13 ↗ County forward thrust bond which was boy

26:16 ↗ in the late 60s early 70s that built

26:19 ↗ most of the pools within King County

26:23 ↗ some on school properties other others

26:25 ↗ not the bones pool our physical pool was

26:29 ↗ was built with that program with the

26:32 ↗ forward thrust bond so King County

26:37 ↗ relied I could go into a whole

26:40 ↗ historical story on pools but King

26:44 ↗ County relied and has relied for decades

26:47 ↗ on that forward thrust investment and

26:49 ↗ those pools are tired those pools are

26:54 ↗ doing great we've made a significant

26:56 ↗ reinvestment in that pool zac lee sin

27:00 ↗ and the the aquatics team do a great job

27:03 ↗ of programming that pool I think we're

27:05 ↗ well positioned for that to still have a

27:07 ↗ lot of life in it but there's not been

27:11 ↗ significant investment or expansion in

27:13 ↗ the pools so there is space to

27:18 ↗ potentially add some lanes up on that

27:22 ↗ site as one option to explore you know I

27:28 ↗ don't know where these conversations are

27:30 ↗ going to go with the district obviously

27:33 ↗ a lot of conversation needed with both

27:37 ↗ them they have their own legislator

27:40 ↗ board with this aquatic school board as

27:43 ↗ well as our own City Council so I don't

27:45 ↗ want to get ahead of either of those two

27:46 ↗ groups but we just know with Liberty

27:50 ↗ High School Skyline High School is

27:52 ↗ sequal high school all relying on that

27:54 ↗ pool for their needs we really think

27:59 ↗ it's an important time to have this

28:01 ↗ conversation before

28:02 ↗ a fourth high school is opening up and I

28:05 ↗ can share it so my son has swam for the

28:08 ↗ high school team for four years now and

28:10 ↗ what happens with them is they have

28:12 ↗ practice scheduled like right after

28:14 ↗ school but it's basically an hour which

28:16 ↗ is a short amount of time for so

28:18 ↗ practice one day at least one day a week

28:21 ↗ another school has a meet and so homey

28:25 ↗ and so then they can't practice so that

28:27 ↗ goes from five days a week of swimming

28:29 ↗ to four days a week you know with one

28:30 ↗ prep but they won't they'll have a meet

28:32 ↗ that's without three days of practice

28:34 ↗ it's very they they have 75 kids so I

28:39 ↗ think this year on the team is a huge

28:40 ↗ team and so they're really limited like

28:42 ↗ they have way too many kids in each lane

28:45 ↗ swimming so like I deal you know even

28:48 ↗ with the amount that they're using the

28:50 ↗ pool now I just can't imagine how like

28:53 ↗ how it will be possible to come and

28:54 ↗ accommodate another team it's like they

28:58 ↗ get the most out of their swimmers for

29:00 ↗ that very short amount of time that they

29:01 ↗ have have a pool it's very different

29:03 ↗ than my other son swims for a team owned

29:06 ↗ in Seattle has much longer practices

29:08 ↗ very you know a lot more lanes available

29:11 ↗ they get a lot more so me Nana my kids

29:15 ↗ you go to Liberty and I think I started

29:16 ↗ lying the bus scene just the time and

29:18 ↗ opposing the cost of all with that just

29:21 ↗ to bring them there to practice so easy

29:26 ↗ has no easy answer aquatic facilities

29:29 ↗ yes can be expensive but they are

29:31 ↗ certainly assets that actually how much

29:37 ↗ of our pool supports the school system

29:40 ↗ off the cuff like percentage-wise

29:44 ↗ of the program use of the pool itself

29:49 ↗ 20% 50% I'd say closer to 20% I mean

29:55 ↗ when you look at other competitive

29:57 ↗ swimming open swim lessons it's

30:01 ↗ certainly not I wouldn't put it as a

30:03 ↗ majority but again that pool is meant to

30:06 ↗ be a community pool so we wouldn't

30:08 ↗ certainly wanted to solely become a pool

30:12 ↗ that serves high school meets and

30:14 ↗ doesn't have that community learn to

30:17 ↗ swim aquatic fitness and even during the

30:21 ↗ meet it's like there's swim lessons

30:23 ↗ happening at the same time so you know I

30:24 ↗ mean like it is fully program um and we

30:28 ↗ used to have middles like not in the

30:31 ↗ same way no I know same lion's mane

30:32 ↗ another particle but um we used to have

30:35 ↗ like the middle school when my older son

30:37 ↗ who's a senior now when he was going

30:39 ↗ through middle school I a mess they

30:40 ↗ actually had a probe like they had

30:42 ↗ swimming like part of the PE curriculum

30:44 ↗ was out the pool and they've gone away

30:46 ↗ from that and that would be you know

30:48 ↗ that's another opportunity I think for

30:49 ↗ to make sure that kids do have that

30:52 ↗ water safety I would love to see s house

30:55 ↗ back in our programs important work I

31:03 ↗ had a question about this the park land

31:08 ↗ inventory that you're doing did you you

31:10 ↗ said

31:11 ↗ so you work you were we've acquired

31:13 ↗ properties that aren't all like park

31:15 ↗ land rights like residences and went up

31:17 ↗ but are we inventory all city land so

31:20 ↗ not just land acquired by like for the

31:22 ↗ purpose of parks or like neither item

31:26 ↗ under facilities yes yes to kind of say

31:36 ↗ like is this the best use of this

31:38 ↗ property they're going for it right I

31:41 ↗ have a couple questions we're talking

31:44 ↗ about confluence park bridge deck this

31:47 ↗ would be a good time for me to update

31:50 ↗ this question part of that program was

31:53 ↗ to include some interpretive signage

32:08 ↗ there's gonna be some direction with

32:17 ↗ the bridge I think a lot of people

32:35 ↗ probably don't grasp the concept and an

32:38 ↗ interpretive signage would help that

32:40 ↗ process but it's a good educational

32:43 ↗ opportunity and I gotta believe there's

32:46 ↗ a lot of people to cross that go what in

32:47 ↗ the world is all of this my next

32:51 ↗ question relates to of all the items in

32:54 ↗ 2020 and I want to push it too much on

32:57 ↗ the spot here but I will so of these

33:03 ↗ items what do you see that you would be

33:06 ↗ coming to the park board for any action

33:09 ↗ items yeah great question is to give us

33:13 ↗ kind of a preliminary heads-up of what

33:15 ↗ we might be seeing her this year yeah I

33:18 ↗ can certainly like follow up with a more

33:23 ↗ comprehensive list but I certainly the

33:27 ↗ the dog park bike park master planning

33:33 ↗ work for the the anchor parks those all

33:35 ↗ will have you know to the degree that

33:37 ↗ we're having community outreach in

33:38 ↗ community conversations I really see

33:40 ↗ that as also being authorizations here

33:45 ↗ and recommendations related here so you

33:51 ↗ know I think that would hold true as

33:52 ↗ well for the hillside neighborhood park

33:55 ↗ work in Green Issaquah as we move

33:59 ↗ towards adopting that plan I see that

34:02 ↗ coming to you before it goes to just to

34:06 ↗ City Council so

34:09 ↗ wait I certainly don't feel on the spot

34:12 ↗ I think wayfinding exactly we'll have a

34:14 ↗ park board touch and feedback an

34:18 ↗ opportunity like hearing some of this

34:27 ↗ programmatic discussion around aquatics

34:30 ↗ and and some of the questions asked

34:32 ↗ certainly keeping you all apprised of

34:34 ↗ how and where that conversation is going

34:37 ↗ as well any other questions comments on

34:48 ↗ this one I just as a point of reference

34:50 ↗ we did a big aquatic study like 10 years

34:54 ↗ ago 12 years ago I'm assuming you have

34:56 ↗ your hands on that and yeah laid out a

35:00 ↗ few options as to what expansion might

35:03 ↗ look like another yep very helpful there

35:11 ↗ might be time for an update if it was 10

35:12 ↗ years ago yeah it could be it could be

35:17 ↗ IIIi think step one is starting these

35:19 ↗ conversations really let's ask the

35:23 ↗ questions and let's get into a partner

35:25 ↗ dialogue it was network before we have a

35:27 ↗ before we have any I don't I'm not

35:31 ↗ trying to get out this this is always

35:33 ↗ interesting working on my part I'm I'm

35:35 ↗ not trying to get out in front of two

35:37 ↗ very important legislative bodies but

35:39 ↗ I'll pose the question that I'd rather

35:42 ↗ posed it now and let's talk about it

35:44 ↗ before it's a programmatic crisis when

35:48 ↗ we're trying to get a fourth set of

35:50 ↗ teams scheduled in that facility

35:55 ↗ especially as the school system is

35:57 ↗ expanding its

35:58 ↗ a good time to bring all this up so just

36:02 ↗ those amenity that's not on that campus

36:04 ↗ but it's a very important amenity that

36:06 ↗ my campus is likely gonna rely on I

36:10 ↗ think my recollection was that when we

36:13 ↗ looked at those pool options to do just

36:17 ↗ so everybody like has a dollar amount

36:19 ↗ framework I mean it was twenty to thirty

36:22 ↗ million dollars is that right to you or

36:28 ↗ you meant to expand the existing site to

36:30 ↗ kind of what people had it had

36:32 ↗ envisioned so we ended up doing five

36:35 ↗ million dollars with our Park bond in

36:37 ↗ order to basically reinvest in our

36:39 ↗ existing pool and keep that

36:40 ↗ infrastructure but knowing that it

36:42 ↗ wouldn't support our you know our

36:44 ↗ growing needs and in the future but it's

36:46 ↗ a really big price tag but it was never

36:48 ↗ about not being enough community support

36:51 ↗ the surveys and everything supported the

36:53 ↗ 20 and 30 million dollar expenditure

36:55 ↗ herb was gonna be a bond or whatever it

36:57 ↗ was but at the time they said that they

37:01 ↗ were guaranteeing that the bond would

37:03 ↗ pass at a five million dollar price tag

37:07 ↗ right as soon as we had we had it had to

37:10 ↗ do that and really that that's the

37:13 ↗ school district means encompass as a

37:15 ↗ school district and the city park bonds

37:16 ↗ are just the yeah the city residents and

37:20 ↗ so it's really I mean really it's not

37:23 ↗ more regional kind of need and should I

37:25 ↗ support yeah good point

37:28 ↗ I just always support you looking at

37:32 ↗ having those conversations thank you

37:38 ↗ any other questions two minutes full

37:54 ↗ reviews so yeah tonight really the focus

37:58 ↗ and Jennifer's gonna leave this

37:59 ↗ discussion we're just about to launch

38:03 ↗ into a next phase of public engagement

38:05 ↗ and want to have a chance to share with

38:08 ↗ you and really walk through you with you

38:11 ↗ some of the work that

38:12 ↗ mithoon did including taking all the

38:15 ↗ public feedback we heard through the

38:18 ↗ survey and our outreach last summer and

38:21 ↗ they came up with some vision values

38:24 ↗ program goal pages for each of these

38:26 ↗ properties and want to sort of walk

38:28 ↗ through those but with you get your

38:31 ↗ thoughts and feedback it's this

38:33 ↗ information that's going to help inform

38:35 ↗ what's going to be concepts that we'll

38:39 ↗ be sharing with the community in this

38:43 ↗ next round of engagement so so before it

38:52 ↗ flipped the screen um I want to kind of

39:00 ↗ go back and talk through you know when

39:02 ↗ we did the Parc strategic plan these

39:05 ↗ three Park stupids Valley Park veterans

39:07 ↗ from Memorial Field in the Creek

39:10 ↗ corridor were three priority projects

39:12 ↗ that came out of that last June when we

39:15 ↗ first hired our consultant team with it

39:17 ↗ and they come to you and realized that

39:21 ↗ there were some early principles and

39:23 ↗ goals that were set up as part of this

39:26 ↗ work and some of those were improving

39:28 ↗ quality of life maintaining healthy

39:30 ↗ salmon and healthy people placemaking

39:32 ↗ and ensuring that these parks all had

39:35 ↗ multiple benefits

39:38 ↗ over the last nine months we have had

39:42 ↗ quite a bit of community outreach we've

39:46 ↗ been to the farmers market and concerts

39:48 ↗ on the green we've held a partners

39:51 ↗ meeting

39:52 ↗ we've also come to you both in June

39:55 ↗ August and October of last year we've

39:58 ↗ also helped to sports meetings to trying

40:02 ↗ continued conversations with the

40:04 ↗ community to get additional feedback in

40:06 ↗ addition to those received at some of

40:09 ↗ our bigger outreach efforts you know

40:10 ↗ like the farmers market and stuff the

40:14 ↗ outreach our consultant team and the

40:17 ↗ City have been filtering that through to

40:19 ↗ help really come up with a vision

40:22 ↗ statement and help set some priorities

40:24 ↗ for each of these parks as Jeff was

40:27 ↗ saying and they're going to help design

40:31 ↗ kind of it the guidelines and our

40:32 ↗ options going forward that the

40:35 ↗ consultant team they're in process right

40:37 ↗ now creating options for each of the

40:40 ↗ parts so we're hoping to go out with a

40:42 ↗ survey in February those each of those

40:47 ↗ are going to kind of run some of the

40:49 ↗ gamut as far as opportunities that could

40:53 ↗ be at each of the parks none of those

40:55 ↗ are going to be written and shown survey

40:58 ↗ questions are not going to be final we

41:02 ↗ want more feedback knowing that whatever

41:04 ↗ final design and concept comes out is

41:07 ↗ going to be multiple options and

41:11 ↗ iterations and opportunities and so on

41:16 ↗ and so forth so we'll be packaging all

41:20 ↗ this information together and some

41:21 ↗ we'll be doing that online survey I

41:26 ↗ think we'll jump first into Tibbets

41:30 ↗ Valley Park here that's one quick

41:34 ↗ follow-up question on you know so when

41:36 ↗ we last spoke about the outreach you had

41:43 ↗ had some I hadn't had success reaching

41:45 ↗ some of the sports teams I'm just

41:47 ↗ wondering which what sports teams have

41:48 ↗ you connected with and which ones are

41:50 ↗ still out there

41:51 ↗ we've been able to touch base with

41:54 ↗ soccer groups one of the baseball clubs

42:00 ↗ not all of them we've certainly updated

42:06 ↗ them all shared with them dates the

42:11 ↗ feedback all the information that we've

42:12 ↗ given you here so I don't know if

42:18 ↗ they're non-response has been hey we

42:20 ↗ like it keep going

42:22 ↗ what team have you did you connect with

42:25 ↗ I'd have to look

42:33 ↗ so Tim is Valley Park as you know is a

42:36 ↗ 37 and a half acre park and the vision

42:40 ↗ statement that came out of the

42:41 ↗ engagement is to be an active diverse

42:44 ↗ and vibrant regional park that responds

42:46 ↗ to adjacent growth areas welcomes

42:48 ↗ visitors to the city and serves today's

42:50 ↗ and tomorrow's Issaquah as you might

42:53 ↗ remember the northern north is up on

42:56 ↗ this image just on the other side of the

42:58 ↗ park there is where it's at the boundary

43:00 ↗ of central Issaquah where more urban

43:02 ↗ density and growth is going to occur

43:05 ↗ so ensuring that this park really

43:08 ↗ relates to the future development that's

43:10 ↗ going to occur as well as our growing

43:13 ↗ community and diverse sports needs that

43:17 ↗ can be really important some of the

43:19 ↗ themes and priorities that were heard

43:21 ↗ through the community engagement was to

43:25 ↗ improve and diversify the sports fields

43:27 ↗ ensure that we have use policies along

43:30 ↗ or throughout the seasons and expand the

43:33 ↗ types of programming and activities when

43:36 ↗ you're there there's not a lot of

43:38 ↗ opportunity and the uses seem somewhat

43:40 ↗ separated now so bringing those together

43:42 ↗ it's a core value also add activities

43:48 ↗ adjacent to the sports fields for

43:50 ↗ varying ages make the creeks and

43:52 ↗ accessible feature ironically one thing

43:55 ↗ we found out in our community surveys

43:57 ↗ that some people didn't even know there

43:59 ↗ was a creek that went through there so

44:02 ↗ how can we open it up and invite useful

44:04 ↗ still protecting habitat as a core

44:06 ↗ feature also make sure we connect to the

44:10 ↗ new dog park that is going to be

44:12 ↗ occurring or under construction this

44:15 ↗ year also include programs that support

44:18 ↗ future urban growth and maintain quality

44:20 ↗ of life and develop natural areas for

44:23 ↗ both active and passive recreation and

44:26 ↗ also create a looping trail for walking

44:29 ↗ around the entire park some of the

44:31 ↗ program elements that were really

44:32 ↗ important the community would like to

44:35 ↗ see here is to

44:36 ↗ sure that their sports fields that the

44:39 ↗ sports support varying areas of the park

44:42 ↗ as well as play greater relationship to

44:47 ↗ the skatepark ensure that there's plazas

44:50 ↗ and gathering space for the community

44:53 ↗ access to the creep as mentioned a loop

44:56 ↗ trail and public gardens another thing

45:01 ↗ would be a kiosk or pavilion for people

45:04 ↗ to gather information or to gather as

45:06 ↗ well also maintain some open lawn space

45:10 ↗ was important and access to the natural

45:14 ↗ areas as well as maintaining hardcourt

45:17 ↗ and sport games like the basketball and

45:19 ↗ tennis so as we've been working through

45:23 ↗ some of the design options we were to

45:27 ↗ view these same program elements for

45:29 ↗ Veterans Memorial as well so when we

45:32 ↗ start going out to the community really

45:34 ↗ deciphering where fast

45:36 ↗ some of these uses or activities reside

45:38 ↗ is going to be really important to

45:40 ↗ figure out any questions at this point

45:47 ↗ on Tibbits Valley Park with the themes

45:50 ↗ and priorities I guess I would make a

45:55 ↗ suggestion to include interpretive

45:57 ↗ public art as an element yes yes so as

46:07 ↗ you will remember the Arts Commission

46:09 ↗ has commissioned a Don fellows as an

46:13 ↗ artist he is working with our consultant

46:15 ↗ team to integrate art into all of these

46:20 ↗ master plans for the anchor three anchor

46:23 ↗ parks and one of the questions that were

46:26 ↗ pondering and asking is also about how

46:31 ↗ art integration is going to be into each

46:33 ↗ of these parks and some open-ended

46:35 ↗ questions about that because we'd like a

46:37 ↗ little more feedback as to what themes

46:39 ↗ and

46:41 ↗ ideas the community would have that they

46:44 ↗ would like to see represented there yes

46:48 ↗ and perhaps how to make it so we don't

46:51 ↗ have to go back a year later and do

46:52 ↗ resurfacing or fixing of glass pieces on

46:55 ↗ how art yeah yeah this this planning

47:01 ↗ effort is not where these concepts are

47:04 ↗ not going to be designed but you're

47:06 ↗ right

47:07 ↗ how how can art be incorporated in a way

47:10 ↗ that is yeah maintenance friendly etc I

47:16 ↗ was gonna touch on as well just to I

47:20 ↗ think to reiterate as as these concepts

47:22 ↗ are rolled out really the goal of this

47:24 ↗ next phase is not to try and have three

47:28 ↗ concepts so dialed in that the community

47:31 ↗ feels like they have to they're forced

47:33 ↗ to choose one two or three like we've

47:36 ↗ done and have other efforts this is

47:38 ↗ really going to be intended to try and

47:40 ↗ take ideas and formulate sort of the

47:44 ↗ bookends of that idea those ideas and

47:47 ↗ see what resonates and we're likely to

47:51 ↗ see come out of this is elements of each

47:54 ↗ of these concepts that are most sort of

48:00 ↗ appreciated are most accepted by the

48:02 ↗ community they most like and they least

48:05 ↗ like and probably working towards a

48:09 ↗ hybrid of those those concepts another

48:14 ↗ thing to point out that I think would be

48:16 ↗ really important in our context of

48:20 ↗ evaluating this but also that we share

48:22 ↗ with the community we're really trying

48:24 ↗ to set a vision for this park to live

48:29 ↗ for several years and realizing we're

48:31 ↗ not sitting on capital dollars right now

48:33 ↗ to just turn around and do this we're

48:36 ↗ really trying to position this we're

48:37 ↗ trying to pose this question of salary

48:39 ↗ what does the next iteration of Tibbets

48:42 ↗ Valley Park need to be what does this

48:44 ↗ community want it to be its neighborhood

48:46 ↗ is going to

48:47 ↗ pressures on this park are gonna change

48:49 ↗ how do we prepare their best prepare to

48:52 ↗ begin making investments so that we're

48:54 ↗ not having to guess or make these in

49:00 ↗ more of a pressure type situation so the

49:09 ↗ exciting exciting effort but some

49:11 ↗ important this this work is gonna feel

49:13 ↗ like it has a bit of a long view and not

49:15 ↗ a right we're turn around we're turning

49:18 ↗ around and building it next year that's

49:20 ↗ not gonna be the case

49:22 ↗ does it ever come up you know both these

49:25 ↗ parts and a lot of the purse we have you

49:27 ↗ talked about that in past years already

49:28 ↗ sports activities then people ever want

49:34 ↗ pavilions and a gathering and place to

49:37 ↗ cook food mats have a thing about Park I

49:39 ↗ live in maple Hills which is between

49:41 ↗ written in here we have an outdoor pool

49:44 ↗ which they actually use for competition

49:46 ↗ I mean it's a competition high school

49:47 ↗ tennis courts basketball courts plays

49:51 ↗ play area but don't have a pavilion with

49:54 ↗ grills for people can gather and have

49:57 ↗ boys go together and I look at this you

49:59 ↗ know 37 5 acres I'm like oh I suppose

50:02 ↗ that's have a family get-together or a

50:04 ↗ family reunion to its park but you could

50:05 ↗ not do that no car you bring up a great

50:08 ↗ point and then there's that time and

50:09 ↗ again from the survey is this this is a

50:12 ↗ this is a it's a great park it's lived a

50:14 ↗ great life but it is so dependent upon a

50:18 ↗ scheduled athletic event yeah yeah don't

50:21 ↗ look that which I kind of surprised

50:23 ↗ because you know we always talk about

50:24 ↗ people live at Alice in this area of the

50:27 ↗ town this is both a huge part for that

50:29 ↗ area for them to get all to us I'm

50:31 ↗ surprisingly that people don't so here's

50:33 ↗ a great up because morning we hope to

50:35 ↗ yeah how do we still have this park

50:37 ↗ support it needs to have a strong

50:38 ↗ support for sports fields right but how

50:42 ↗ do we perhaps manage synthetic turf in

50:45 ↗ through some other reasons get a lot of

50:47 ↗ there's still a strong sports component

50:50 ↗ to this but we also allow this park to

50:53 ↗ be more of a drop-in unstructured

50:57 ↗ a busy vibrant park with or without a

51:02 ↗ sports game scheduled and I'm assuming

51:06 ↗ cheapest Creek Manor is kind of part of

51:08 ↗ this discussion and whether to keep it

51:10 ↗ going like that or to repurpose that

51:12 ↗ that space or that building it's not

51:15 ↗ only part of this it's also part of the

51:17 ↗ city facilities yeah the system that we

51:19 ↗ were talking about in the work plan yep

51:21 ↗ and then in all veterans memorials that

51:24 ↗ we've heard before and as I I don't know

51:27 ↗ when is use of an in salmon days we've a

51:30 ↗ little comment out that we talked about

51:36 ↗ a ball field there I never seen anything

51:41 ↗ going on there I mean so I can be really

51:44 ↗ nice to really somehow bigger like how

51:46 ↗ functionality doesn't have to be sports

51:49 ↗ related is some kind of functionality

51:51 ↗ here's up this 7.9 acres I think when

51:54 ↗ you look at the programming and the

51:56 ↗ options that are being created I think

51:58 ↗ you're gonna see a lot more integrated

52:00 ↗ uses with splash to spice things come up

52:03 ↗ before and that kind of thing which is

52:04 ↗ kind of cool but also play areas and how

52:06 ↗ do we relate this existing skate park to

52:10 ↗ the rest of the park you know and these

52:13 ↗ options are supposed to generate

52:15 ↗ conversation and when we know this first

52:18 ↗ time around not all questions are gonna

52:19 ↗ be asked in the survey nor and we're

52:22 ↗ gonna have to have future rounds of

52:25 ↗ conversation and opportunity for

52:27 ↗ engagement on these as they work towards

52:29 ↗ a final plan down the road yes we

52:33 ↗ transition to veterans I mean both of

52:36 ↗ these parks again a little bit great

52:38 ↗ lives but they are in their current form

52:41 ↗ very underutilized they are and that and

52:45 ↗ in the park strategic plan we we I think

52:48 ↗ drew this very thing out right that part

52:50 ↗ of placemaking part of that theme a

52:52 ↗ placemaking is how do we take how do we

52:56 ↗ take these anchor type spaces that are

52:58 ↗ so well positioned and realize that we

53:02 ↗ can as a community get a lot more use in

53:05 ↗ function

53:05 ↗ and performance out of these existing

53:07 ↗ parks then currently exists so is it the

53:11 ↗ two of you they're going to come over

53:13 ↗ propose ideas of what to do with like

53:15 ↗ veterans or or is it is that it's this

53:17 ↗ committee or who know so that we have a

53:19 ↗ landscape architect firm on board

53:21 ↗ mithoon architects they've been here so

53:24 ↗ we're working with them and their team

53:26 ↗ of landscape architects they're the ones

53:30 ↗ coming up with those concepts this one's

53:33 ↗ your going ok so so like a Civic Plaza

53:36 ↗ as a constant you know I'm just thinking

53:40 ↗ like at the park board here really just

53:42 ↗ really like at the Civic Plaza thing

53:44 ↗ yeah I mean who really makes that

53:46 ↗ decision who sent me the decision to say

53:48 ↗ hey we're gonna turn veterans immortal

53:50 ↗ into a Civic Plaza for example how would

53:54 ↗ that happen

53:55 ↗ this plan would come to you the master

53:57 ↗ plan will ultimately come to you as a

53:59 ↗ for each of these for your

54:01 ↗ recommendation that's from this this

54:03 ↗ group but they're going it but they're

54:05 ↗ give their feedback for the public then

54:07 ↗ to decide during this next phase of

54:10 ↗ public engagement again is not trying to

54:12 ↗ come up with a final sort of forced

54:15 ↗ choice of one of these concepts that's

54:17 ↗ really I think gonna help we we would

54:21 ↗ intend to come to you with the feet

54:23 ↗ nominee options but here's what we heard

54:25 ↗ from the community now how do we want to

54:27 ↗ shape this into into a preferred concept

54:34 ↗ I do want to just plant there's six

54:37 ↗ Facebook fields that are you know part

54:39 ↗ of these two properties and and so we we

54:43 ↗ have to as a city be engaging in the

54:46 ↗ baseball community to get input as to

54:48 ↗ what the needs are which which of these

54:52 ↗ fields are working what age group

54:53 ↗ they're working for I mean I know

54:55 ↗ veterans memorials not used often but

54:57 ↗ I've mentioned this in Prior mediums it

54:59 ↗ is used for a specific age age group and

55:02 ↗ and so both my kids had a whole season

55:05 ↗ that they that's pretty much the only

55:07 ↗ place that they've

55:08 ↗ because we don't have other fields that

55:10 ↗ are that particular size yeah and so it

55:13 ↗ would have you know it's not used by

55:15 ↗ like a lot of baseball teams but those

55:18 ↗ kids you know we have to have a place

55:20 ↗ for them and so I just you know I I

55:23 ↗ think we can use tippets and I'm much

55:25 ↗ more you know it can completely be

55:29 ↗ redesigned and be used in a more

55:32 ↗ efficient way and especially if you can

55:33 ↗ turf in fields and whatnot but we have

55:37 ↗ to have meaningful dialogue with those

55:38 ↗ groups I'm happy to help facilitate that

55:41 ↗ um yeah we've is really important though

55:44 ↗ it was very very important and we will

55:47 ↗ continue to strive to do that and I

55:49 ↗ think we very much look forward to that

55:51 ↗ to that dialogue yeah that'll that'll be

55:56 ↗ that will be critical because we've

55:58 ↗ shared before we've also looked at with

56:01 ↗ those six in fields the historical

56:05 ↗ frequency that all six in fields are

56:07 ↗ scheduled at the same time never happens

56:09 ↗ it doesn't right so how do we get smart

56:11 ↗ with that how do we get smart with

56:13 ↗ really understanding they're exactly

56:15 ↗ right what are those community groups

56:16 ↗ one of those groups really needing

56:20 ↗ another project that's in the park

56:22 ↗ strategic plan that we've talked about

56:23 ↗ that it really I think it's folded into

56:25 ↗ this conversation is we have some

56:27 ↗ baseball fields that are extremely under

56:29 ↗ utilized we have two baseball fields

56:32 ↗ with central parks that because of

56:36 ↗ shortened out fields and where they're

56:38 ↗ positioned boy if there was some and

56:41 ↗ again as we're looking at the long view

56:42 ↗ as we make these changes there are some

56:45 ↗ timely investments in strategic

56:47 ↗ investments we can do to still make sure

56:49 ↗ we are very much accommodating baseball

56:52 ↗ softball needs throughout the whole park

56:55 ↗ system so yeah any help you can provide

56:58 ↗ in that engagement yes

57:07 ↗ more questions on Tibbets performing

57:09 ↗ with two bedrooms or we also keep an

57:12 ↗ open mind on tennis court placement you

57:15 ↗ know so really yeah when you when you

57:18 ↗ look at maximizing space yeah we kind of

57:21 ↗ take everything away and then and and

57:24 ↗ yeah dog park and then I would assume

57:35 ↗ that some of the parking is required to

57:37 ↗ stay cuz like that by the skate park

57:39 ↗ that's supporting the park and ride and

57:42 ↗ what about on the other side do we need

57:44 ↗ to keep the same parking lot footprint

57:46 ↗ or can we move that we will get creative

57:49 ↗ in some of the parking options again

57:51 ↗ let's use those options to help sort of

57:55 ↗ invoke community conversation but yeah

57:58 ↗ our current agreement with King County

58:01 ↗ Metro needs to be we need to be aware of

58:05 ↗ that okay into you can assume basic

58:10 ↗ needs you know when you see the concepts

58:13 ↗ they're gonna be very general more like

58:17 ↗ pieces of felt on a paper you know that

58:20 ↗ are spatially we're not getting too

58:22 ↗ granular detail about restroom placement

58:25 ↗ and some of the basic needs that we

58:27 ↗ would get into further design we're

58:29 ↗ still kind of up at a greater level so

58:31 ↗ if you see a parking area you can assume

58:34 ↗ that it would be able to house the

58:36 ↗ required parking that we would need

58:39 ↗ because as we go through the design

58:40 ↗ process that's when we get down to a

58:42 ↗ more granular level of what's being wise

58:45 ↗ so just know when you sees these they're

58:48 ↗ more spatial layout what activities

58:52 ↗ would be happening where and how they

58:54 ↗ would relate to you know the streets or

58:57 ↗ to other activities within the park

59:00 ↗ so how granular do you need to get in

59:02 ↗ order to actually finalize a master plan

59:05 ↗ can that stay at a pretty high level yes

59:08 ↗ yes yes there would still be but my

59:12 ↗ experience of doing master plans to this

59:15 ↗ degree and trying to get that long view

59:18 ↗ to really help inform investments there

59:21 ↗ would be what as you would go into

59:25 ↗ design there would still be another

59:26 ↗ degree of public engagement right -

59:29 ↗ really

59:30 ↗ okay now let's design that first phase

59:35 ↗ the bleachers here or here so we

59:41 ↗ probably won't be seeing that component

59:43 ↗ of it and when we approve a master plan

59:47 ↗ right well with the master plan we'd

59:49 ↗ hope to have the certification plan so

59:52 ↗ we know how to face the project what a

59:55 ↗ rough order of magnitude cost would be

59:56 ↗ so we could then start funding that next

59:59 ↗ phase of design to the more granular

1:00:02 ↗ level

1:00:05 ↗ all right let's move on to Veterans

1:00:10 ↗ Memorial Field this again here the

1:00:15 ↗ vision that was set out is to become a

1:00:18 ↗ downtown destination that celebrates the

1:00:21 ↗ past present and future of Issaquah

1:00:22 ↗ honors veterans firefighters and miners

1:00:25 ↗ and capitalizes its location in the

1:00:28 ↗ valley this is a seven in a point nine

1:00:31 ↗ almost eight acre area and we have to

1:00:34 ↗ remember that we're also including the

1:00:37 ↗ depot park and pedestrian park as part

1:00:40 ↗ of this because we have a lot of park

1:00:42 ↗ spaces including the Senior Center that

1:00:44 ↗ don't really relate to one another so as

1:00:47 ↗ we look at how we improve the park we

1:00:50 ↗ need to look at all these other public

1:00:53 ↗ areas as well some of the themes that

1:00:55 ↗ came out of the public engagement are

1:00:57 ↗ again played for all ages stronger

1:01:01 ↗ connection to the Senior Center

1:01:03 ↗ maintained the vet field or the

1:01:07 ↗ multi-use green in short all seasons use

1:01:13 ↗ also a way to stroll around a loop take

1:01:16 ↗ advantage of and maintain the flatness

1:01:19 ↗ this is one of the flattest areas in the

1:01:23 ↗ old town area which is something to

1:01:26 ↗ relish improve connections on the west

1:01:30 ↗ side so how do we relate to front street

1:01:34 ↗ and making sure because right now the

1:01:36 ↗ parking really separates the field that

1:01:41 ↗ you're so close because you can't see

1:01:44 ↗ you know when you're in pedestrian Park

1:01:46 ↗ and you look sometimes you can't even

1:01:48 ↗ see Depot Park even though you're right

1:01:50 ↗ there next to it potentially change or

1:01:54 ↗ remove parking

1:01:57 ↗ love depo training part people really

1:02:01 ↗ want to keep that there and love the

1:02:03 ↗ history that's associated with it they

1:02:06 ↗ want to see it enhanced so it has more

1:02:08 ↗ of a relationship to the part also and

1:02:11 ↗ create public gardens for enjoyment

1:02:13 ↗ plants as destinations some of the

1:02:17 ↗ program elements that they would like to

1:02:18 ↗ see play as we mentioned open maintain

1:02:22 ↗ the open Greenfield maintain a memorial

1:02:26 ↗ piece they're also strolling splash

1:02:30 ↗ community gardens Park centers Civic

1:02:34 ↗ Plaza planting gardens hardcourt sport

1:02:37 ↗ games commercial space use and also

1:02:42 ↗ maintain the relationship to the train

1:02:44 ↗ and museum as we've mentioned so again

1:02:48 ↗ Brad this is one part that art is going

1:02:52 ↗ to be very much a theme through but not

1:02:55 ↗ only from the historic standpoint but

1:02:57 ↗ also the railroad that's there as well

1:03:00 ↗ as some history on the valley floor so

1:03:02 ↗ this has a lot and I think you'll see in

1:03:06 ↗ the concepts some of those scenes and

1:03:08 ↗ again we'll have questions that relate

1:03:10 ↗ to art spatial use yes Jeremy Prince at

1:03:15 ↗ the city hall a police station is within

1:03:17 ↗ that is that just for reference the show

1:03:20 ↗ that's part of the city property yeah

1:03:21 ↗ just for reference we are not doing

1:03:23 ↗ anything it's more just for the

1:03:26 ↗ relationship to this space we're not

1:03:28 ↗ designing those space areas at all so

1:03:31 ↗ thank you for pointing that out

1:03:33 ↗ so is everything within the white border

1:03:36 ↗ and up to the 7.9 acres no no you would

1:03:41 ↗ have to take out the city hall area

1:03:44 ↗ there but then yes but everything like

1:03:47 ↗ older streets part of the Rainier Triola

1:03:50 ↗ rat is include eco park

1:03:53 ↗ the parks lot area as well is included

1:03:56 ↗ within that yeah this is a smaller

1:04:01 ↗ footprint obviously than the Tibbets

1:04:05 ↗ brings with it more opportunities and

1:04:10 ↗ more constraints maybes concepts is

1:04:14 ↗ Jennifer more highlighting you know I

1:04:16 ↗ think we want to take the opportunity of

1:04:20 ↗ presenting concepts that present

1:04:22 ↗ bookends of of opportunities I'll use

1:04:28 ↗ parking I think as a as a big one to

1:04:31 ↗ illustrate this parking is part of this

1:04:37 ↗ experience right parking is a very

1:04:40 ↗ important part of this property because

1:04:42 ↗ that parking supports front street and

1:04:44 ↗ those businesses as well as the park and

1:04:46 ↗ the Senior Center and so many uses one

1:04:50 ↗ of the options we want to explore when

1:04:53 ↗ we've really asked that the consultant

1:04:55 ↗ team to say alright what does it look

1:04:57 ↗ like how could we possibly help this

1:04:59 ↗ space better relate to front street but

1:05:02 ↗ still assume all the parking spaces

1:05:04 ↗ right how could we accomplish that let's

1:05:08 ↗ explore what that option would be and

1:05:09 ↗ presented but then let's also present

1:05:12 ↗ another option and we've had a chance to

1:05:14 ↗ talk with downtown Issaquah the chamber

1:05:16 ↗ and some of our other partners we'd like

1:05:18 ↗ to propose a question to say all right

1:05:21 ↗ let's let's get really crazy and let's

1:05:24 ↗ have a concept that assumes let's assume

1:05:27 ↗ parking is accommodated some other way

1:05:29 ↗ let's assume some year in the future

1:05:34 ↗ that parking is handled elsewhere what

1:05:39 ↗ what might it look like for this space

1:05:42 ↗ to feel more open or relate to those

1:05:48 ↗ businesses in a more pedestrian way or

1:05:52 ↗ relate to front street in a more park

1:05:57 ↗ like setting

1:05:58 ↗ what a Depot what if the depot building

1:06:00 ↗ was in the middle of a park instead of

1:06:02 ↗ the middle of a parking lot not to draw

1:06:05 ↗ preference or say one's better or worse

1:06:07 ↗ than the other but to really utilize

1:06:10 ↗ this opportunity to pose some really

1:06:13 ↗ cool questions at the community and see

1:06:16 ↗ what what kind of feedback we get and

1:06:19 ↗ I'm sure it'll be mixed but this is a

1:06:24 ↗ concentrated area that is for decades

1:06:27 ↗ tried to serve so many many purposes

1:06:30 ↗ that I think the fresh eyes that the

1:06:34 ↗ consultant team some of the feedback we

1:06:35 ↗ heard from the community was this is a

1:06:38 ↗ sort of a lost and forgotten space that

1:06:42 ↗ really could strengthen its relationship

1:06:45 ↗ to Old Town and play I think a more

1:06:48 ↗ supportive role to Front Street so this

1:06:52 ↗ is going to be really interesting to see

1:06:53 ↗ what what are they looking at parking

1:06:55 ↗ options I mention thing before about one

1:06:58 ↗ thing is tone doesn't have as a parking

1:06:59 ↗ ramp you might say well we don't even

1:07:02 ↗ when well if you had a parking around

1:07:04 ↗ somewhere to Sage don't pass the library

1:07:06 ↗ where that little parking areas there I

1:07:08 ↗ don't sighs what could not Bend us

1:07:11 ↗ through an all a wild idea put in a

1:07:12 ↗ parking ramp you could but this free up

1:07:15 ↗ this parking space here but the city has

1:07:18 ↗ to make a decision to put in a parking

1:07:19 ↗ ramp I mean if they want to get to be

1:07:20 ↗ like Bellevue someday in the future

1:07:23 ↗ I mean build even has Bergen translate

1:07:25 ↗ that helps subsidize your space brings

1:07:30 ↗ people in that have a place

1:07:32 ↗ and I'm not sure where the city is with

1:07:34 ↗ that I were thinking of putting in one

1:07:36 ↗ so far but these are all very long range

1:07:39 ↗ questions that aren't intended to force

1:07:46 ↗ us into one choice or another as a city

1:07:48 ↗ Donna um a survey of what that parking

1:07:52 ↗ actually gets used for during the day

1:07:54 ↗ and how long people are parked there

1:07:56 ↗ there's a parking study that was done

1:07:58 ↗ just last year that again would help

1:08:01 ↗ inform and how many people are parked

1:08:04 ↗ there for the full day during the week

1:08:07 ↗ study I mean like I would be really

1:08:09 ↗ curious because that's just a resident

1:08:11 ↗ like I feel like that people are parking

1:08:14 ↗ their to get to go to work or they're

1:08:16 ↗ taking transit which is right you can go

1:08:18 ↗ downtown Seattle you get on you don't

1:08:20 ↗ have to wait at the Transit Center right

1:08:22 ↗ there and to me I would love to see that

1:08:25 ↗ all that parking and being like 2 hours

1:08:27 ↗ 3 hours just like so people can actually

1:08:30 ↗ go to the park or they can go to the

1:08:31 ↗ restaurants and like you know clear up

1:08:34 ↗ all that I'd see it turn to a kazillion

1:08:35 ↗ word again a parking ramp that they've

1:08:38 ↗ made and people out there all day look

1:08:40 ↗ at the revenue for the city that would I

1:08:42 ↗ kind of feel like it's it's also a

1:08:46 ↗ Samiha underutilized Park but also I

1:08:48 ↗ personally feel like it's like a hidden

1:08:50 ↗ gem and it's like for people to know

1:08:52 ↗ that it's there and it's like I like it

1:08:55 ↗ like I like going there and feeling like

1:08:57 ↗ I'm in the middle of Issaquah and I'm

1:09:00 ↗ still like you know there's a little

1:09:01 ↗ park and yeah you can walk to the

1:09:03 ↗ different restaurants or so so I like

1:09:04 ↗ that personally I could also get my head

1:09:07 ↗ around not having any parking there and

1:09:09 ↗ you don't have enough say I like the

1:09:11 ↗ idea I like the what idea what you say

1:09:13 ↗ walking behind her but at night I don't

1:09:15 ↗ like like walk that back behind there

1:09:16 ↗ it's not every say with all the cars and

1:09:19 ↗ everything

1:09:19 ↗ it's never been around if you want to go

1:09:23 ↗ downtown

1:09:23 ↗ it's a quiet night and walk around and

1:09:25 ↗ if you that was all open or area your

1:09:27 ↗ pavilion that tank I'd be nice to walk

1:09:29 ↗ behind there it would be like running

1:09:31 ↗ into trash cans and cars and hope you

1:09:33 ↗ don't get hit by something and it's dark

1:09:35 ↗ and there's me and then you got the

1:09:37 ↗ senior living in their vehicles I'm

1:09:39 ↗ thinking of the senior students Senior

1:09:41 ↗ Center I mean look at the outdoor

1:09:43 ↗ activity the Senior Center could do they

1:09:44 ↗ can't really doing a lot of activities

1:09:46 ↗ all parking and there's a big open green

1:09:49 ↗ field so the older person to view the

1:09:51 ↗ Senior Center look at has a big green

1:09:52 ↗ field going oh that's nice yeah the

1:09:56 ↗ relationship of the senior center of the

1:09:57 ↗ park itself how do we have some activity

1:10:00 ↗ activity some activities and I think

1:10:04 ↗ that I think the goal of these options

1:10:08 ↗ is to do just this to invoke some

1:10:11 ↗ community conversation about

1:10:12 ↗ opportunities I think the good news is I

1:10:14 ↗ think there are some really vibrant

1:10:18 ↗ opportunities and options should all the

1:10:20 ↗ parking remain there this could still be

1:10:23 ↗ a better and improved Park space that

1:10:26 ↗ relates to Front Street and supports Old

1:10:30 ↗ Town a whole lot better they could also

1:10:32 ↗ be a space should parking go somewhere

1:10:36 ↗ else that that has other opportunities

1:10:38 ↗ but I think what we'll find is there are

1:10:41 ↗ ample ways to improve the experience in

1:10:45 ↗ the performance of this space either way

1:10:47 ↗ you put signers there now like two or

1:10:50 ↗ three hour parking or something what do

1:10:52 ↗ we have to wait till we redo the park we

1:10:56 ↗ don't have to wait to do the park but

1:10:57 ↗ that's a different part of parking

1:10:59 ↗ ordinance and how you allow or don't

1:11:05 ↗ allow time limit so in your put that's a

1:11:07 ↗ that's a city code change that would

1:11:09 ↗ need to happen this other parts I don't

1:11:13 ↗ know why they wouldn't have it here

1:11:17 ↗ we know people Park in their work I

1:11:19 ↗ think this has long been identified as

1:11:22 ↗ not park parking but as really community

1:11:27 ↗ in business parking I think some would

1:11:30 ↗ some of this community probably think

1:11:32 ↗ that's a through Road I think it's not

1:11:35 ↗ really no it's not gonna sell you have

1:11:38 ↗ to be a through Road so we didn't get

1:11:39 ↗ past Front Street you get a cut in the

1:11:40 ↗ subway it's a great question Jeremy that

1:11:42 ↗ would be and I think it's something that

1:11:44 ↗ the businesses have brought up if

1:11:53 ↗ there's a general sense that this park

1:11:55 ↗ is underutilized I believe that one of

1:11:58 ↗ the reasons this underutilized would be

1:12:00 ↗ that it is difficult to find parking and

1:12:02 ↗ you just you'll do go past and then

1:12:04 ↗ you're like okay you know and there's

1:12:09 ↗ parking along the outside perimeter of

1:12:11 ↗ the baseball field but people won't go

1:12:13 ↗ aren't really aware that and don't you

1:12:15 ↗ know don't go back there but I would

1:12:18 ↗ love to have the city seriously consider

1:12:21 ↗ having that be shorter term parking it

1:12:25 ↗ should not be commuter parking you know

1:12:27 ↗ well I think this planning effort though

1:12:30 ↗ I don't we're not going to try and drive

1:12:31 ↗ that or dictate that decision I think

1:12:33 ↗ this planning effort in this community

1:12:35 ↗ engagement can really help to inform

1:12:40 ↗ yeah some of the things that we talked

1:12:42 ↗ about it would just be a great

1:12:43 ↗ opportunity for some of these commercial

1:12:45 ↗ businesses you know to you know do some

1:12:48 ↗ outdoor seating and that goes up into a

1:12:50 ↗ park rather than in the front street

1:12:52 ↗ it's there's been a lot of push in the

1:12:54 ↗ last few years about outdoor dining on

1:12:57 ↗ Front Street almost every one of those

1:12:59 ↗ restaurants are now doing that and I go

1:13:01 ↗ I don't wants to sit right next to him

1:13:03 ↗ you know you know basically it's just

1:13:05 ↗ nothing but you know a parking lot of

1:13:07 ↗ cars going through Front Street and have

1:13:09 ↗ meals I don't get it there's a push for

1:13:12 ↗ that it would be

1:13:21 ↗ that could be a nicer you know the other

1:13:27 ↗ thing I was actually on one of the

1:13:28 ↗ survey teams last year and this was one

1:13:31 ↗ of the areas that I surveyed huge amount

1:13:33 ↗ of traffic nobody stays virtually

1:13:36 ↗ everything it was all walked through

1:13:37 ↗ everybody that I was there I did a huge

1:13:39 ↗ amount of numbers everybody was in and

1:13:42 ↗ gone within five minutes because they're

1:13:44 ↗ just going to the parking lot they were

1:13:45 ↗ just walking through nobody stayed there

1:13:47 ↗ over anything and that's one thing we

1:13:50 ↗ also heard in the survey responses

1:13:52 ↗ whereas you know they don't most people

1:13:55 ↗ don't go here unless it's salmon days

1:13:57 ↗ and there's nothing drawing people here

1:14:00 ↗ the playground is does get a lot of use

1:14:02 ↗ it is sort of neighborhood I mean a lot

1:14:06 ↗ of people come in there but we also

1:14:08 ↗ heard that the along Creek way and

1:14:11 ↗ second Avenue there it's not very

1:14:13 ↗ welcoming to come in to the park from

1:14:16 ↗ that edge much like Tibbets the you know

1:14:18 ↗ that's got that fenced blocked off so

1:14:20 ↗ how do we relate to the neighborhoods as

1:14:24 ↗ well as Front Street as well as the

1:14:25 ↗ Rainier Trail so that little piece that

1:14:28 ↗ goes up to the north there that's the

1:14:30 ↗ Rainier trail that goes up and connects

1:14:32 ↗ you to confluence park and connects you

1:14:34 ↗ down to the community center lon

1:14:37 ↗ so this is really a very big piece and

1:14:41 ↗ this is another node that's gonna be a

1:14:44 ↗ longer creek corridor yes an anchor was

1:14:46 ↗ in our Creek order

1:14:49 ↗ so when you start thinking about those

1:14:51 ↗ greater relationships and you zoom out

1:14:53 ↗ it really demonstrate more the

1:14:55 ↗ importance of this as a little more

1:14:58 ↗ active Park because this part is going

1:15:01 ↗ to be able to have some elements that

1:15:03 ↗ say confluence isn't going to be able to

1:15:05 ↗ have due to some of the restrictions

1:15:09 ↗ that were fortunately is Greek yeah and

1:15:11 ↗ the proximity to the creek this this is

1:15:14 ↗ going to be able to have a little more

1:15:16 ↗ fun I don't know what you mean by

1:15:25 ↗ restrictions yes not the conservation

1:15:32 ↗ restrictions interesting concept is that

1:15:41 ↗ you know we're talking about parking and

1:15:43 ↗ parking lots and parking ramps doing it

1:15:45 ↗ does have the word park in it you know

1:15:48 ↗ so maybe you somehow if we can you know

1:15:50 ↗ get a little poll there and you know

1:15:53 ↗ something for the size of that table

1:15:56 ↗ thank you I love the discussion yeah I

1:15:58 ↗ just don't want this this effort to be

1:16:01 ↗ an opportunity to really reach out and

1:16:05 ↗ relate to the community and see what so

1:16:10 ↗ it's white list of the options yeah if

1:16:12 ↗ there's no further questions I want to

1:16:14 ↗ be respectful of time noise well that's

1:16:16 ↗ just one thing to point out it's

1:16:17 ↗ interesting when you see this on a map

1:16:19 ↗ like this visually nearly half of the

1:16:22 ↗ acreage is devoted to parking cars and

1:16:26 ↗ work building

1:16:27 ↗ you know and not really using as a park

1:16:29 ↗ system yeah the creek corridor as you

1:16:40 ↗ know in the park strategic plan the

1:16:42 ↗ vision was set forth to create a link

1:16:47 ↗ between Valley Park to the south

1:16:49 ↗ and Lake Sammamish State Park along the

1:16:53 ↗ creeks corridor and how that pathway

1:16:57 ↗ would Evan flow through the city how it

1:17:00 ↗ could be an anchor Park for our park

1:17:04 ↗ system connecting other parks and

1:17:06 ↗ neighborhoods when sorry oh amazingly

1:17:16 ↗ from Valley Park to Lake Sammamish

1:17:19 ↗ State Park it's only a four mile stretch

1:17:22 ↗ along the creek so when you think Green

1:17:25 ↗ Lake you know everyone knows it's three

1:17:27 ↗ miles around Green Lake so when we think

1:17:29 ↗ of what this means to the city as far as

1:17:33 ↗ being a main main vein of access where

1:17:39 ↗ the creek usually used to divide the

1:17:41 ↗ city that how can we use the creek as a

1:17:45 ↗ way to bridge the two sides that once

1:17:48 ↗ separated and connect to different

1:17:50 ↗ destinations within the neighborhood as

1:17:54 ↗ you may have heard when we came to

1:17:57 ↗ earlier that the whole corridor has

1:18:00 ↗ really been broken up into three

1:18:02 ↗ different segments we have the Pickering

1:18:05 ↗ reach which is pretty much I 92 Lake

1:18:08 ↗ Sammamish State Park through and through

1:18:12 ↗ the park yep to the water and then we

1:18:16 ↗ have a second area called the old town

1:18:19 ↗ reach which is really more of the built

1:18:21 ↗ environment from I 90 high schools down

1:18:26 ↗ in there and then we have the third

1:18:28 ↗ section which is a Valley reach we

1:18:32 ↗ know each of these

1:18:34 ↗ areas are going to have a little

1:18:35 ↗ different look and feel just due to

1:18:37 ↗ their proximity but it is a goal that

1:18:39 ↗ this network would run on existing

1:18:42 ↗ parkland trails we may have to use

1:18:45 ↗ right-of-way and a different in some

1:18:48 ↗ areas but how can we connect and get

1:18:51 ↗ people along this and this is where our

1:18:53 ↗ wayfinding also comes in as a piece of

1:18:56 ↗ knowing you're on the right path to get

1:18:59 ↗ you where you want to go as we've worked

1:19:02 ↗ with the consultant team and it kind of

1:19:05 ↗ come up with four different elements

1:19:07 ↗ that they're really looking at for the

1:19:10 ↗ Creek corridor obviously one is the

1:19:13 ↗ spine or you know kind of the major

1:19:15 ↗ trail that would connect

1:19:16 ↗ squak Valley to Lake Sammamish State

1:19:19 ↗ Park the other would be loops which

1:19:24 ↗ would be pathways you could take in and

1:19:28 ↗ around each neighborhood to get you

1:19:30 ↗ places the green dots would be like some

1:19:33 ↗ major destinations

1:19:35 ↗ you know like confluence park that you

1:19:36 ↗ would want to stop at along the way also

1:19:40 ↗ that habitat along the creek is really

1:19:43 ↗ important make sure you we're protecting

1:19:46 ↗ the creek habitat as well as providing

1:19:48 ↗ access to it as an educational or

1:19:51 ↗ through it much like we did at

1:19:52 ↗ confluence park and also those anchor

1:19:56 ↗ parks how can we really start relating

1:19:58 ↗ to those a little bit more Veterans

1:20:02 ↗ Memorial confluence park and even

1:20:04 ↗ Tibbets Valley Park though it's only a

1:20:06 ↗ far Scotia way as we connect with the

1:20:09 ↗ mountains to sound trail it's going to

1:20:11 ↗ be very easy to get from the creek

1:20:13 ↗ corridor over to tivitz Valley Park but

1:20:16 ↗ even the Pickering barn and the gap in

1:20:18 ↗ that space that becomes a an anchor as a

1:20:21 ↗ part of this Court

1:20:22 ↗ it does and when we start looking at

1:20:24 ↗ some of our public spaces when we do the

1:20:27 ↗ survey it's going to roll out in these

1:20:29 ↗ three different reaches because it's a

1:20:31 ↗ little easier to digest where it's at

1:20:34 ↗ but really be looking at all these

1:20:36 ↗ different connections so you know the

1:20:39 ↗ main spine the different neighborhood

1:20:41 ↗ loops and the destinations within each

1:20:43 ↗ of those we're not looking at super

1:20:47 ↗ specific pathways now this is still at a

1:20:49 ↗ higher level knowing there's a lot of

1:20:51 ↗ work ahead of us and future options as

1:20:54 ↗ we go through so this is going to look

1:20:56 ↗ and feel a little different in the

1:20:58 ↗ survey then perhaps the parks that seem

1:21:02 ↗ a little more concrete because this

1:21:05 ↗ still has a lot of abstract things we're

1:21:06 ↗ having to to work with no one going into

1:21:10 ↗ this effort that this the two previous

1:21:13 ↗ are site-specific parks this is a this

1:21:16 ↗ is a system approach but I think the

1:21:20 ↗ survey and as Jen pointed out these four

1:21:22 ↗ elements will really drive the the

1:21:25 ↗ survey questions and again those four

1:21:27 ↗ elements are the spine so the core trail

1:21:31 ↗ the loops and understanding how there's

1:21:35 ↗ so many loop trail opportunities through

1:21:37 ↗ this entire spine to really connect

1:21:39 ↗ neighborhoods and commercial areas

1:21:41 ↗ habitat is a is a key element to this

1:21:46 ↗ corridor because this is this is serving

1:21:49 ↗ more than people and then that fourth

1:21:53 ↗ element being the anchors

1:21:55 ↗ that worth reading this spine to connect

1:22:00 ↗ a lot of our public spaces that again it

1:22:03 ↗ felt isolated I think for many years and

1:22:05 ↗ they really are part of something part

1:22:09 ↗ of something bigger so and just to share

1:22:12 ↗ some of the priorities that came out of

1:22:14 ↗ this or to improve the connections

1:22:16 ↗ between existing parks provide ways to

1:22:21 ↗ view an experience as a quad Creek

1:22:23 ↗ reduce potential conflicts between

1:22:26 ↗ pedestrians and vehicles and cyclists

1:22:30 ↗ also make existing parks and open spaces

1:22:33 ↗ more visible and accessible while

1:22:36 ↗ imagining these new spaces can be better

1:22:39 ↗ used and enhance the natural corridors

1:22:42 ↗ used by wildlife I think one of the

1:22:50 ↗ things that we talked about it a good

1:22:52 ↗ bit when we were formulating the

1:22:54 ↗ strategic plan that would be nice to

1:22:56 ↗ incorporate in this is the mountainous

1:22:59 ↗ Sound Greenway intersection because in

1:23:02 ↗ some respect that's kind of a hub the

1:23:06 ↗ north-south east-west concept

1:23:10 ↗ I don't know that where the bathtub is

1:23:14 ↗ going to be that really needs to be

1:23:17 ↗ incorporated within this corridor as a

1:23:21 ↗ future because I think that's that could

1:23:25 ↗ very well be a real focal point you know

1:23:28 ↗ for the city in terms of being able to

1:23:30 ↗ interconnect everything well as we

1:23:32 ↗ talked about anchors in that element of

1:23:35 ↗ anchors that intersection with the

1:23:37 ↗ anchor and something we've talked about

1:23:45 ↗ reduce it might be multiple anchors

1:23:49 ↗ right so what what brad is talking about

1:23:51 ↗ is this this this quarter will make up a

1:23:54 ↗ primary north-south really key corridor

1:23:58 ↗ in connection there's these east-west

1:24:01 ↗ connections through town mountains the

1:24:04 ↗ Sun Greenway Trail as a vision for

1:24:07 ↗ Seattle eventually Seattle to Spokane

1:24:09 ↗ right connection how does how do we want

1:24:13 ↗ that east-west connection to flow

1:24:16 ↗ through town and then how would we want

1:24:18 ↗ that east-west connection to relate to

1:24:20 ↗ this but you're right I'd see that

1:24:23 ↗ intersection that hub as being one of

1:24:25 ↗ those anchors right yes that's a key key

1:24:29 ↗ place perhaps the most key place on the

1:24:34 ↗ door Kimberly yeah this you know I

1:24:38 ↗ mentioned earlier about the to site

1:24:39 ↗ based projects that we're trying to keep

1:24:42 ↗ in mind and realize we're trying to set

1:24:48 ↗ a plan that allows investment to take

1:24:52 ↗ place as this kid with the to the rate

1:24:55 ↗ that the community wants to make those

1:24:56 ↗ investments this corridor effort is is

1:25:00 ↗ even more so a long view and a near-term

1:25:03 ↗ view okay I think what we're gonna find

1:25:05 ↗ is we're not that far from at least

1:25:08 ↗ having a lot of informal connections

1:25:10 ↗ that make this happen but even as we

1:25:13 ↗ make those connections

1:25:16 ↗ this opportunity that Issaquah has

1:25:19 ↗ because of 30 or 40 years of

1:25:22 ↗ acquisitions they've made is a very

1:25:27 ↗ envious position in the Puget Sound

1:25:30 ↗ region to be to be talking about a

1:25:32 ↗ four-mile spine that connects border to

1:25:37 ↗ border that could eventually connect to

1:25:40 ↗ an east-west spine it's it's amazing

1:25:43 ↗ it's absolutely amazing and feels bold

1:25:46 ↗ and audacious but hopefully this is

1:25:49 ↗ planning effort I think and also point

1:25:52 ↗ out that boy there's little bytes that

1:25:54 ↗ can be taken with this too that could

1:25:56 ↗ make this to me but we look forward to

1:26:14 ↗ your participation in the survey and

1:26:17 ↗ more conversation and discussion on the

1:26:19 ↗ survey results when they become

1:26:21 ↗ available and the core to the community

1:26:26 ↗ participating

1:26:30 ↗ thanks for that good stuff so do you

1:26:38 ↗ have something on directors report

1:26:40 ↗ you know I touched on it briefly I won't

1:26:44 ↗ spend too much more time on it but just

1:26:47 ↗ the reorganization that occurred late

1:26:50 ↗ last year and the city you may or may

1:26:52 ↗ not have heard coming out of this city's

1:26:54 ↗ wide strategic plan was a desire to

1:26:58 ↗ really look at how we organize ourselves

1:27:02 ↗ as an agency to deliver services and it

1:27:06 ↗ was decided to incorporate a few more of

1:27:10 ↗ those community service or service based

1:27:13 ↗ elements that we provide into our

1:27:15 ↗ department and thus the addition of arts

1:27:18 ↗ and human services Amy and Monica now

1:27:23 ↗ have some office spaces Monica is

1:27:26 ↗ incorporated in the community center

1:27:28 ↗ with a recreation team knowing I think

1:27:31 ↗ that intersection between human services

1:27:33 ↗ programs and what we provide through

1:27:35 ↗ recreation programs are some great

1:27:37 ↗ opportunities to connect and see what is

1:27:42 ↗ generated there and then Amy Dukes arts

1:27:46 ↗ coordinator is now in the trails house

1:27:49 ↗ with Jennifer and Shantae knowing again

1:27:52 ↗ public art we've just we talked about it

1:27:54 ↗ in these efforts right public art and

1:27:56 ↗ public spaces have a is a relationship I

1:28:00 ↗ don't like we further strengthen those

1:28:02 ↗ relationships so our departments a

1:28:05 ↗ little bigger but we're just as tillis

1:28:08 ↗ focused on community as as ever so

1:28:11 ↗ that's that that mean you have an

1:28:14 ↗ assistant

1:28:15 ↗ oh no extra salary or or support staff

1:28:24 ↗ that came with this just good good

1:28:28 ↗ people thought oh if anyone has any

1:28:32 ↗ questions about that before I get into

1:28:40 ↗ mine we've kind of dropped off even

1:28:43 ↗ having a youth person on here the

1:28:45 ↗ reports if we read yeah nobody's don't

1:28:50 ↗ not this year so far you know instead of

1:28:51 ↗ a you know it's a volunteer opportunity

1:28:54 ↗ and no one from youth advisory not this

1:28:56 ↗ year no yeah so they're off for the year

1:28:58 ↗ basically it looks well unless somebody

1:29:00 ↗ shows interests between now and then to

1:29:01 ↗ the man there's somebody who's

1:29:03 ↗ somebody's still pitching back to them

1:29:04 ↗ oh yeah that's always in the table yeah

1:29:07 ↗ it's always kind of nice to have

1:29:09 ↗ somebody from the youth here so it's

1:29:11 ↗ disappointing that we don't have

1:29:13 ↗ somebody yeah sure that was Kathy and

1:29:15 ↗ yeah we really like you want desire to

1:29:19 ↗ be on that for sure don't want to just

1:29:21 ↗ pick somebody

1:29:23 ↗ so I'm my part of it here a couple

1:29:25 ↗ things I attended the kokanee work group

1:29:31 ↗ quarterly meeting on the 22nd of this

1:29:34 ↗ month just a couple things I wanted to

1:29:37 ↗ share from that one is the 2019 2020

1:29:42 ↗ kokanee count was 292 fish this year

1:29:48 ↗ which is still very very low but it's

1:29:51 ↗ actually better than the last couple of

1:29:54 ↗ years the last couple of years it's been

1:29:55 ↗ under 100 even a couple years lives of

1:29:58 ↗ 20 so it's at least some improvement a

1:30:02 ↗ long ways to go

1:30:03 ↗ we had a presentation from whizzed off

1:30:06 ↗ that I just want to make mention of

1:30:11 ↗ I don't know how many of you know that

1:30:13 ↗ there was a big litigation against this

1:30:17 ↗ state and I think this was from tribes

1:30:20 ↗ mostly not actually providing adequate

1:30:25 ↗ culverts and waterways and so they've

1:30:29 ↗ done a significant effort to isolate a

1:30:34 ↗ variety of projects around the state to

1:30:39 ↗ improve our waterways and I just wanted

1:30:43 ↗ to point out that three of them are

1:30:45 ↗ actually with in Issaquah that are going

1:30:47 ↗ that are already funded and being worked

1:30:49 ↗ gonna start work on that one is it Lewis

1:30:52 ↗ Creek one at West Village

1:30:54 ↗ Parker Creek which might people might

1:30:57 ↗ not know where that is that's kind of

1:30:59 ↗ close to Tibbets and then Schneider

1:31:02 ↗ Creek so those are three major culverts

1:31:06 ↗ that actually pass underneath i-90 that

1:31:09 ↗ are going to be reworked and to help for

1:31:16 ↗ fish habitat so I just wanted to let you

1:31:18 ↗ know that that's happening and actually

1:31:21 ↗ one of the it was Lewis Creek was one of

1:31:24 ↗ the largest efforts for the entire state

1:31:27 ↗ and was gonna be like a thirty million

1:31:29 ↗ dollar project to actually redo that

1:31:33 ↗ whole area that's kind of down by just

1:31:38 ↗ the roadways east-west Sammamish exit

1:31:46 ↗ where that one's going to be

1:31:48 ↗ just wanted to point that out we

1:31:52 ↗ actually had an outstanding attention to

1:31:58 ↗ the premiere of spawning grounds in fact

1:32:02 ↗ it was sold out we even had to turn a

1:32:04 ↗ few people away which is the only

1:32:06 ↗ unfortunate part but the film is really

1:32:10 ↗ good people enjoyed it North Bend

1:32:14 ↗ Theatre was a good venue for it other

1:32:17 ↗ than it was maybe turns out maybe a

1:32:19 ↗ little smaller than what we could have

1:32:20 ↗ used there's actually if you didn't have

1:32:23 ↗ an opportunity to see it there is going

1:32:25 ↗ to be another opportunity the Seattle

1:32:27 ↗ premiere is actually going to be on

1:32:29 ↗ February 8th at the intellectual house

1:32:32 ↗ at the University of Washington campus

1:32:35 ↗ for the you don't know intellectual

1:32:37 ↗ house is kind of a cultural center that

1:32:40 ↗ the u-dub is now installed we've it's

1:32:42 ↗ kind of like a long house and you've

1:32:44 ↗ been to it my god so that should be a

1:32:47 ↗ good event as well if anybody is

1:32:50 ↗ interested just reach out to me and I'll

1:32:52 ↗ give you a link about how to get tickets

1:32:55 ↗ and and we created a brochure about

1:33:00 ↗ kokanee I put some on that back table if

1:33:04 ↗ you're interested to grab one on your

1:33:06 ↗ way out there's enough for everyone

1:33:09 ↗ that's enough about kokanee next topic I

1:33:15 ↗ want to talk about is audience comments

1:33:18 ↗ so for those of you that have been

1:33:21 ↗ around for quite a while you probably

1:33:24 ↗ realize that I kind of changed things up

1:33:27 ↗ a little bit when I became chair to get

1:33:30 ↗ more engagement from the community and

1:33:33 ↗ opened up audience comments not just at

1:33:36 ↗ the beginning of our meetings but also

1:33:38 ↗ kind of after important topics I mean my

1:33:42 ↗ intention of that was to get more

1:33:44 ↗ community engagement to give some

1:33:46 ↗ feedback especially

1:33:48 ↗ their staff have made some presentations

1:33:52 ↗ it is something that is within the rules

1:33:55 ↗ and regulations its we've attached a

1:33:58 ↗ copy here for you I recommend everybody

1:34:00 ↗ have an opportunity to take another look

1:34:02 ↗ at rules and regulations here we are at

1:34:04 ↗ the beginning of the year but in section

1:34:08 ↗ 8 of rules and meetings item number

1:34:11 ↗ three public participation does indicate

1:34:13 ↗ that the chair you know has the ability

1:34:17 ↗ to change that at my discretion or at

1:34:20 ↗ the chairs discretion so that's what

1:34:23 ↗ I've done

1:34:23 ↗ I don't wanted to kick it around as

1:34:25 ↗ we're going into a new year in terms of

1:34:27 ↗ what your thoughts are about doing that

1:34:29 ↗ continuing it's a little disappointing

1:34:32 ↗ to me that I had to cut off one of the

1:34:34 ↗ community one member of the community

1:34:36 ↗ last meeting I think that was partly

1:34:41 ↗ because I had been wiling comments later

1:34:44 ↗ into the meeting and he wasn't here at

1:34:48 ↗ the beginning and that's probably where

1:34:49 ↗ that happened I would like to actually

1:34:52 ↗ start including if we are going to have

1:34:55 ↗ some important discussion topics I would

1:34:58 ↗ like to probably maybe start including

1:35:00 ↗ it within the agenda after that is

1:35:03 ↗ presented by staff if there's going to

1:35:05 ↗ be a an area for audience to make

1:35:08 ↗ comments after that so it's not so much

1:35:12 ↗ of a surprise I think it's really mostly

1:35:17 ↗ just in when we have certain things like

1:35:19 ↗ the dog park or we have you maybe some

1:35:22 ↗ of these master planning efforts certain

1:35:24 ↗ things are going to come up through the

1:35:25 ↗ year where you know you know for them to

1:35:30 ↗ talk at the beginning of the meeting and

1:35:32 ↗ then have

1:35:33 ↗ presentation that they'd like to

1:35:34 ↗ actually maybe say some more things

1:35:36 ↗ after that in terms of what their

1:35:38 ↗ opinion is about various things that's

1:35:40 ↗ why I've kind of opened it up for that

1:35:42 ↗ and I would like to continue that to

1:35:45 ↗ some extent I don't think that it's

1:35:48 ↗ beneficial for us to do it which we

1:35:51 ↗ didn't do it last time when we were

1:35:52 ↗ actually going to vote on something and

1:35:55 ↗ so I probably wouldn't want to allow it

1:35:57 ↗ at those times but any other time when

1:36:00 ↗ we're going through discussions or

1:36:02 ↗ informational I would like to continue

1:36:04 ↗ giving the flexibility for the community

1:36:06 ↗ to have an opportunity to step in after

1:36:08 ↗ staff has made a presentation to give

1:36:12 ↗ their thoughts so open up for discussion

1:36:15 ↗ your thoughts gain a you like it you

1:36:17 ↗ don't what do you think I think it's

1:36:20 ↗ important even if it's not always

1:36:23 ↗ cheerful maybe we ought to just do

1:36:28 ↗ whatever we do consistently and then

1:36:31 ↗ plan on like a time frame you know 15

1:36:35 ↗ minutes or something like that so that

1:36:36 ↗ we don't get caught and then if it's

1:36:39 ↗ that type of a topic where we have 50

1:36:42 ↗ people show up and maybe you have the

1:36:46 ↗ discretion then to say well we're gonna

1:36:47 ↗ open up that 15 minutes to 45 minutes

1:36:50 ↗ and everybody plan on staying a little

1:36:52 ↗ bit longer because you wouldn't we would

1:36:54 ↗ anyways

1:36:56 ↗ typically we know ahead of time when

1:36:58 ↗ those are gonna be in us I mean we've

1:37:01 ↗ had meetings in that past where it's

1:37:02 ↗ been nothing but public comment okay

1:37:06 ↗ pretty contentious topics I know that

1:37:09 ↗ for a while we did that when I was chair

1:37:12 ↗ as well like I would if we had a top of

1:37:14 ↗ that was going to generate a lot of

1:37:15 ↗ information we did put it in the agenda

1:37:17 ↗ kind of flip back and forth though I

1:37:20 ↗ mean I think the the fear is that you

1:37:21 ↗ have if you have to provide that

1:37:23 ↗ opportunity at the beginning you don't

1:37:25 ↗ want one person to take five minutes in

1:37:28 ↗ and then take five minutes to talk about

1:37:29 ↗ something different so that's sort of

1:37:34 ↗ the

1:37:34 ↗ attention there I have no problem

1:37:36 ↗ getting in pop I mean I always felt like

1:37:39 ↗ comment on a particular topic is much

1:37:41 ↗ more useful after they after people have

1:37:43 ↗ seen a presentation right you know

1:37:47 ↗ because it might elicit when I listen to

1:37:49 ↗ it you know a presentation I have more

1:37:51 ↗ comment yeah question than why not it's

1:37:53 ↗ just more relevant I do think the cap is

1:37:56 ↗ very important to keep though I mean

1:37:58 ↗ we've had some in the past where if you

1:38:00 ↗ didn't have that five-minute cap there

1:38:01 ↗ would have been some that it would have

1:38:02 ↗ talked for 20-30 minutes and we've also

1:38:07 ↗ made it smaller

1:38:08 ↗ I mean we've definitely when we've had

1:38:09 ↗ huge groups we've had three minutes yeah

1:38:14 ↗ City Council what's our default brie I

1:38:18 ↗ think it was surprised actually when I

1:38:19 ↗ looked at these today then it was five

1:38:21 ↗ cuz for a long time we had it and most

1:38:28 ↗ of the time five is plenty because we

1:38:30 ↗ don't usually have more than a couple

1:38:31 ↗ people but that needs to be shortened up

1:38:33 ↗ if we have much of a crowd here we

1:38:35 ↗ haven't really had much of that last

1:38:36 ↗ year one nice thing about having a

1:38:39 ↗ comment so available at the beginning is

1:38:41 ↗ that if someone really wants to come and

1:38:44 ↗ and convey something they can leave that

1:38:46 ↗ they remember to stay at home well yeah

1:38:51 ↗ agenda so we agreed that it by adding

1:38:55 ↗ that on to the agenda has an area for

1:38:59 ↗ audience comments after a specific area

1:39:01 ↗ would be a good idea give everybody the

1:39:04 ↗ heads up that it's gonna be open and I

1:39:14 ↗ have another comment about the the rules

1:39:17 ↗ like if you're gonna be amending them I

1:39:19 ↗ is there a reason that we are supposed

1:39:22 ↗ to be asking people for their address

1:39:25 ↗ when they present so they're supposed to

1:39:27 ↗ say it's in section 8 when they're

1:39:31 ↗ recognized audience member shall use the

1:39:33 ↗ lecture and microphone to state his or

1:39:35 ↗ her name address and relationship to the

1:39:36 ↗ city and

1:39:39 ↗ I do it like from my perspective like

1:39:42 ↗ I'm kind of have been before

1:39:44 ↗ uncomfortable asking people about you

1:39:46 ↗ know to provide their address and

1:39:47 ↗ especially now that we're televised I

1:39:48 ↗ don't know that it's okay we need to be

1:39:51 ↗ doing that but I don't know if there's

1:40:01 ↗ that and then I would also suggest if

1:40:40 ↗ we're proposing revision so this that

1:40:43 ↗ section 11 includes some discretion to

1:40:46 ↗ reorganize the order of business so it

1:40:49 ↗ currently says the order of business for

1:40:50 ↗ each regular meeting shall be as follows

1:40:52 ↗ and it's very specific and I know a lot

1:40:54 ↗ of times you know like if you know if

1:40:56 ↗ there's we do in fact adjust things you

1:41:01 ↗ know if necessary so I would propose it

1:41:04 ↗ we say unless adjusted at the board's

1:41:05 ↗ discretion before chairs discretion yeah

1:41:09 ↗ just so you have some flexible like a

1:41:10 ↗ youth report if they need to leave early

1:41:12 ↗ or something I could do it early

1:41:14 ↗ sometimes this modify we do a field trip

1:41:15 ↗ or something like yeah and then do we

1:41:20 ↗ are we doing this seven days are we

1:41:23 ↗ getting our agenda seven days ahead of

1:41:25 ↗ time usually so we know that some that

1:41:33 ↗ we've struggled with birth in the past

1:41:36 ↗ and if we want to adjust the requirement

1:41:41 ↗ so it matches what can actually happen

1:41:43 ↗ or if we want to

1:41:45 ↗ I asked for it easier so or ask for it

1:41:48 ↗ earlier beverage I got put there because

1:41:50 ↗ we were never getting any for a long

1:41:51 ↗ time right yeah we were getting that

1:41:53 ↗ that was an issue for for a while so but

1:41:58 ↗ these have been in a place for a couple

1:41:59 ↗ of years I think so anyway I would just

1:42:03 ↗ say we should look at those two if we're

1:42:05 ↗ proposing revisions well especially if

1:42:08 ↗ we have got a lot of attachments we the

1:42:12 ↗ more advanced to be able to review that

1:42:14 ↗ I think is appropriate and the more

1:42:16 ↗ difficult that is to is there specific

1:42:26 ↗ requirements for the youth involvement

1:42:28 ↗ like I mean come if I meet a kid can I

1:42:30 ↗ invite him to come come and be our youth

1:42:32 ↗ can always be a member of the audience

1:42:35 ↗ sure but in terms of a factual

1:42:38 ↗ presentation normally would need to get

1:42:41 ↗ things give you I think April is asking

1:42:42 ↗ about the youth rep yes yes advisory

1:42:45 ↗ board at the city and so it's a youth

1:42:50 ↗ advisory board members usually so they

1:42:54 ↗ would have to go through the process of

1:42:56 ↗ becoming of the advisory board at work

1:42:58 ↗ okay so I should look up information on

1:43:00 ↗ that

1:43:02 ↗ and the purpose of that is so that they

1:43:04 ↗ can then go back and advise the Youth

1:43:06 ↗ Advisory Board that has a lot of other

1:43:08 ↗ outlay of information rather than just

1:43:12 ↗ somebody that wouldn't do much of

1:43:14 ↗ anything with that information maybe

1:43:19 ↗ mm-hmm I guess my last thing is just

1:43:22 ↗ when I bring up to the attention that

1:43:23 ↗ they've already posted for board

1:43:26 ↗ applications coming up and so we have

1:43:30 ↗ three people on the board their terms

1:43:32 ↗ are ending at the end of April

1:43:34 ↗ Joe Karl on April if you are I would

1:43:39 ↗ encourage you to reapply if you're

1:43:41 ↗ interested to continue on applications

1:43:44 ↗ are due by the end of March and maybe

1:43:50 ↗ Melissa could send that out so that you

1:43:56 ↗ could just apply online and you by the

1:44:01 ↗ end of March it needs to be in that

1:44:03 ↗ means we would I thought I saw online

1:44:08 ↗ that it was the end of March yeah you

1:44:11 ↗ know I thought we used to have pretty

1:44:13 ↗ quick process we stand interviews it's

1:44:15 ↗ March but that means we would have

1:44:16 ↗ interviews in April yeah it's a

1:44:24 ↗ relatively quick turnaround I know the

1:44:26 ↗ clerk's office has done it made a real

1:44:28 ↗ concerted effort the last couple of

1:44:29 ↗ years to unify so all applications

1:44:34 ↗ interviews are all happening together

1:44:35 ↗ and then those recommendations are

1:44:38 ↗ forward of the mayor collectively so it

1:44:40 ↗ might have that might have adjusted so

1:44:45 ↗ that is it end of March

1:44:50 ↗ and that's all I had

1:44:52 ↗ so anybody else have any new business

1:44:56 ↗ issues to discuss if not thanks everyone

1:45:02 ↗ happy 2020 we'll start it all over again

1:45:08 ↗ Thanks we're drank you

1:45:18 ↗ you

Approved minutes

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Approve the minutes of November 28, 2019 as written. Approved 7-0 PUBLIC COMMENTS None 2020 Department Work Plan, (I) Presented by: Jeff Watling, Parks and Community Services Director Watling highlighted items from the 2019 major work plan including:  Continuation of the parks master planning effor…

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