City Council Special Meeting 8:00 PM* - Monday, March 8, 2021 Virtual Meeting Please note, this agenda also serves as the special meeting notice pursuant to RCW 42.30.080. *Start Time: This meeting will commence at 8:00 p.m., or immediately following the conclusion of the City Council Study Session, whichever is later. Due to the Governor's Proclamation 20-28 related to the COVID-19 emergency and open public meetings, this meeting is being held remotely. Join by Computer (open session only) • Webex Events attendee meeting link [If needed, meeting password is 98027.] • Access Webex Guidelines Join by Phone (open session only) • Call 1-206-207-1700, enter meeting number (access code) 187 982 3598# 1. CALL TO ORDER - OPEN SESSION 2. CLOSED SESSION a) The purpose of this special meeting is to allow the City Council to recess into Executive Session to discuss pending/potential litigation per RCW 42.30.110(1)(i). The item is expected to take approximately 45 minutes. Please note, Page 1 of 2 Auto captions

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2. CLOSED SESSION

The purpose of this special meeting is to allow the City Council to recess into Executive Session to discuss pending/potential litigation per RCW take approximately 45 minutes. Please note, Executive Sessions are closed to the public. Action, if needed, would occur during the open session of a Council meeting

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0:00 ↗ welcome everyone i council president

0:02 ↗ hunt call the

0:03 ↗ march 8 special counsel study session to

0:05 ↗ order

0:06 ↗ before we move on to tonight's agenda

0:08 ↗ i'd like to acknowledge our remote

0:09 ↗ meeting format

0:10 ↗ on march 6 2020 the mayor issued an

0:13 ↗ emergency proclamation declaring a civil

0:15 ↗ emergency in the city due to the covet

0:17 ↗ 19 outbreak

0:18 ↗ on march 24th 2020 the governor issued

0:21 ↗ proclamation 20-28 relating to the

0:23 ↗ covet-19 emergency and open public

0:25 ↗ meetings

0:26 ↗ this proclamation has been extended

0:28 ↗ until termination of the state emergency

0:30 ↗ or until repealed by the governor or

0:33 ↗ legislature

0:34 ↗ due to these proclamations tonight's

0:35 ↗ meeting will be held entirely remotely

0:38 ↗ a meeting link and call and number were

0:39 ↗ provided on the meeting agenda for

0:41 ↗ members of the public

0:42 ↗ who wish to attend the meeting the

0:44 ↗ meeting will also be recorded streams

0:45 ↗ live and available for later viewing on

0:48 ↗ the city's youtube channel

0:50 ↗ there are multiple public comments

0:52 ↗ opportunities at tonight's meeting there

0:53 ↗ is a general public comment opportunity

0:55 ↗ at the beginning of the meeting

0:56 ↗ or you can make comments after the staff

0:58 ↗ presentation and counsel question and

1:00 ↗ answer period on tonight's agenda items

1:02 ↗ and i will also share a summary of any

1:04 ↗ comments that have been emailed

1:05 ↗ regarding

1:06 ↗ tonight's agenda items um

1:09 ↗ and then just a quick reminder to

1:12 ↗ council members

1:13 ↗ to please indicate in the chat when you

1:15 ↗ would like to speak

1:17 ↗ i will now take a roll call of the

1:18 ↗ council members in attendance so please

1:20 ↗ stay here when i call your name

1:22 ↗ councilmember d michelle

1:23 ↗ here thank you councilmember goodman

1:26 ↗ here

1:28 ↗ thank you councilmember hall here thanks

1:31 ↗ councilmember martz here council deputy

1:34 ↗ president ray

1:36 ↗ here and councilmember walsh here

1:40 ↗ thanks everyone and the first um item on

1:43 ↗ the agenda is public comments this is

1:45 ↗ the

1:45 ↗ general public comment period if there's

1:48 ↗ anyone on the call now who would like to

1:49 ↗ make public comments and did not sign up

1:51 ↗ to speak please

1:52 ↗ raise your virtual hands um and this is

1:54 ↗ if you were on the phone press star

1:56 ↗ three and if you have joined by a

1:57 ↗ computer

1:57 ↗ look for a hand icon um

2:01 ↗ and city clerk has anybody is anybody on

2:04 ↗ the line wishing to make comments

2:06 ↗ thank you uh we have no one who has

2:08 ↗ signed up in advance to speak

2:10 ↗ but we do have two attendees um who

2:13 ↗ are on the line and they have not raised

2:15 ↗ their hand

2:18 ↗ okay um well i will just read the rest

2:21 ↗ about raising their hand just

2:22 ↗ in case they need to raise their hand so

2:25 ↗ if you've joined by computer or

2:26 ↗ smartphone please

2:27 ↗ um look for a hand icon this varies by

2:29 ↗ device one option may be to go to the

2:31 ↗ participant panel and select your name

2:32 ↗ and then choose raise hands

2:34 ↗ um and i'll just wait a minute in case

2:36 ↗ anybody does want to raise their hand

2:38 ↗ and indicate that they would like to

2:48 ↗ speak

2:50 ↗ all right so i'll do one more quick

2:52 ↗ check uh city clerk did anybody indicate

2:54 ↗ a desire to speak

2:57 ↗ if you're holding um i do not see a

2:59 ↗ virtual hand raise but corby

3:02 ↗ casler i will turn you

3:05 ↗ to a panelist and if you have comments

3:08 ↗ um

3:08 ↗ i will check with our council president

3:10 ↗ to see when they would

3:12 ↗ start the clock on that one

3:23 ↗ hi corby hi can you hear me

3:27 ↗ we can did you wish to address the

3:30 ↗ council

3:31 ↗ i would i just want to say first of all

3:34 ↗ thank you for having me

3:35 ↗ i always love seeing you guys i i'm

3:37 ↗ especially loving this webex i'll get to

3:39 ↗ see your faces

3:40 ↗ i'm excited about the topic you're going

3:43 ↗ to be discussing today

3:45 ↗ i know that it's um you got your heart

3:47 ↗ is in with the 501

3:49 ↗ z3s and i'm excited about that and dia

3:52 ↗ has as you know suffered covid related

3:56 ↗ um difficulties given the fact that we

3:58 ↗ couldn't do

3:59 ↗ on-site events where we sold tickets and

4:01 ↗ raised funds that way so

4:03 ↗ just wanted to to raise my hand say that

4:06 ↗ we're

4:07 ↗ happy that you're having this

4:08 ↗ conversation and that

4:10 ↗ dia is definitely in need of any funding

4:13 ↗ you could possibly

4:14 ↗ provide as you know we provide quite a

4:16 ↗ bit of value to downtown issaquah

4:18 ↗ it's our heart and soul and we work very

4:20 ↗ closely with you so

4:22 ↗ i probably i'm not telling you anything

4:24 ↗ you don't already know but thank you for

4:26 ↗ listening

4:30 ↗ thank you corby is anybody else

4:32 ↗ indicating a desire to speak this

4:34 ↗ evening

4:35 ↗ there is not thank you okay

4:39 ↗ all right well thank you very much and

4:41 ↗ as a reminder you can also

4:44 ↗ send us email on any item

4:49 ↗ at city council issaquahwad.com

4:54 ↗ all right i think with that we will move

4:55 ↗ to the first item

4:57 ↗ which is id0855 nonprofit relief grant

5:00 ↗ funding

5:01 ↗ and i believe this is being presented by

5:03 ↗ city administrator

5:04 ↗ bob quitz thank you council president

5:08 ↗ members of the council good evening um a

5:10 ↗ few weeks ago the council in reviewing

5:13 ↗ mayor paulie's suggestions for

5:14 ↗ additional investments in the community

5:16 ↗ as part of our coven 19 recovery plan

5:20 ↗ there was interest among the council to

5:22 ↗ talk about funding for non-profits

5:24 ↗ in the community so we were going to

5:27 ↗ come back on the 15th

5:29 ↗ of march with that but since

5:32 ↗ the initial meeting uh several members

5:34 ↗ of the council asked that we have a

5:35 ↗ study session and the council leadership

5:37 ↗ the mayor agreed to schedule tonight's

5:39 ↗ meeting what the administration has done

5:41 ↗ is put together a proposal um and i'll

5:44 ↗ ask

5:45 ↗ clerk eggers if she wouldn't mind

5:46 ↗ sharing her screen so we could put that

5:48 ↗ proposal up on the screen and i'll walk

5:50 ↗ through that

5:53 ↗ as the council knows we have provided

5:54 ↗ assistance to

5:56 ↗ other non-profit organizations really

5:58 ↗ geared toward

6:01 ↗ service delivery earlier in the pandemic

6:03 ↗ we've also made several grants

6:05 ↗ cycles for for-profit businesses

6:08 ↗ so what the council asked us to do was

6:10 ↗ to look at what we could do for

6:12 ↗ non-profit organizations and the

6:13 ↗ administration

6:14 ↗ looked at other communities what other

6:16 ↗ communities have done around

6:18 ↗ the country and we found many uh

6:20 ↗ programs uh assisting 501

6:22 ↗ c 3 organizations 501 c 3s are

6:27 ↗ you know the largest number of nonprofit

6:29 ↗ organizations

6:30 ↗ the 501c3 is an internal revenue code

6:34 ↗ and so when a 501 c 3 is mentioned

6:37 ↗ these are general nonprofit

6:39 ↗ organizations

6:41 ↗ donations to these organizations are tax

6:42 ↗ deductible

6:44 ↗ many many organizations not only in its

6:46 ↗ aqua but around the country

6:47 ↗ are 501 c 3s there are additional

6:51 ↗ non-profit organizations that are

6:53 ↗ identified by the internal revenue

6:54 ↗ service

6:55 ↗ those have different numeral

6:58 ↗ designations

7:00 ↗ some here in this squad for example are

7:01 ↗ 501 c 4

7:03 ↗ and 501 c 6 organizations these types of

7:06 ↗ non-profits have more specific missions

7:09 ↗ many of them are our business or or

7:13 ↗ economic development related and they

7:15 ↗ are also non-profits

7:16 ↗ generally speaking donations to those

7:18 ↗ groups are not tax deductible

7:20 ↗ for members of the community watching

7:23 ↗ this but that at least for my

7:25 ↗ view is an easy way to tell a part of

7:27 ↗ 501c3 from other

7:29 ↗ seat organizations the administration

7:32 ↗ this evening is not proposing

7:34 ↗ uh to provide any assistance for other

7:36 ↗ than 501c3 organizations

7:39 ↗ that's for a couple different reasons

7:41 ↗ but first as we looked at

7:42 ↗ what other communities were doing around

7:45 ↗ the country

7:46 ↗ almost unanimously focused on the 501 c

7:49 ↗ trees

7:50 ↗ i think other communities decided to do

7:53 ↗ this

7:53 ↗ and i think we share the administration

7:55 ↗ shares the thought that these are the

7:57 ↗ organizations usually with the least

7:58 ↗ resources the least

8:00 ↗ access to any kind of anytime

8:02 ↗ sustainable funding

8:03 ↗ and so this evening we are only focused

8:06 ↗ on those organizations

8:07 ↗ that are 501c3 this proposal that you

8:11 ↗ have before you this evening

8:12 ↗ would allocate 100 000 uh to 501c3

8:16 ↗ organizations

8:17 ↗ uh and much of this program uh has some

8:20 ↗ resemblance to what we are proposing for

8:22 ↗ our businesses so

8:23 ↗ when you look at the second portion of

8:26 ↗ this on the screen grant amounts

8:28 ↗ we're proposing that there'd be 11

8:30 ↗ grants of 5 000

8:32 ↗ um six grants of 7500

8:35 ↗ uh geared toward different size

8:38 ↗ organizations uh

8:40 ↗ 501c3s again vary in shape and size

8:43 ↗ we felt that under 25 was an appropriate

8:46 ↗ number

8:47 ↗ but to be focusing these grants and so

8:49 ↗ we divided those up between

8:51 ↗ 1 and 10 employees and 11 and 25

8:54 ↗ employees

8:55 ↗ the proposal has the grant being used

8:58 ↗ for

8:58 ↗ applicants who need to funding to

9:00 ↗ recover lost or diminished operational

9:02 ↗ revenue

9:02 ↗ from closing cancelled programs or

9:04 ↗ fundraising as well as applicants who

9:06 ↗ continue to provide mission-oriented

9:08 ↗ programs and services

9:09 ↗ and related services and equipment the

9:11 ↗ city council

9:12 ↗ when deciding on the parameters for the

9:15 ↗ for-profit businesses

9:17 ↗ really opened those grants up to any

9:19 ↗ business

9:20 ↗ within the city of isla within certain

9:22 ↗ size parameters

9:23 ↗ and so we felt it was appropriate uh

9:25 ↗ looking at nonprofits that that would

9:27 ↗ largely follow the same line

9:28 ↗ there are certainly communities around

9:30 ↗ america who have

9:32 ↗ taken a different approach with this

9:34 ↗ funding and have tried to be more

9:35 ↗ targeted

9:37 ↗ the city council has already done that

9:40 ↗ on a limited basis so far to those

9:42 ↗ organizations

9:42 ↗ providing direct service mostly food and

9:44 ↗ shelter

9:46 ↗ earlier in the pandemic so we're

9:47 ↗ recommending this evening that this

9:49 ↗ grant

9:50 ↗ be available to any nonprofit again that

9:53 ↗ can

9:53 ↗ demonstrate the need for funding to

9:54 ↗ recover loss or diminished revenues

9:57 ↗ or as long as they're continuing to

9:59 ↗ provide programs

10:00 ↗ the grant cannot be used to pay debts to

10:02 ↗ close an organization or start a new one

10:05 ↗ again we want to make sure that this is

10:07 ↗ focused on those that are continuing to

10:09 ↗ do business

10:10 ↗ the selection criteria would be similar

10:12 ↗ to what we have done in previous

10:15 ↗ grants that we would first look to those

10:17 ↗ that are qualified

10:19 ↗ they would be entered into a lottery and

10:21 ↗ awarded to the extent of available funds

10:23 ↗ so

10:23 ↗ depending on the number of applications

10:25 ↗ we would have we would go through those

10:27 ↗ uh that met the cri their chair for

10:29 ↗ eligibility and then award them in a

10:32 ↗ lottery fashion

10:34 ↗ we also wanted to narrow down a little

10:36 ↗ bit of organizations that would not be

10:38 ↗ eligible so this would not be open to

10:41 ↗ every single type of 501 c 3 and again

10:44 ↗ this is not an original idea this is a

10:47 ↗ language that we found in several other

10:50 ↗ communities as they've done this program

10:53 ↗ this list is not

10:55 ↗ meant to be inclusive or or stand

10:58 ↗ alone singularly in any way uh it just

11:00 ↗ seemed to make sense

11:01 ↗ uh certainly i think the council when

11:03 ↗ looking at this

11:05 ↗ needs to make sure that this meets the

11:07 ↗ community standards here in the squad

11:08 ↗ but those would

11:09 ↗ not organizations not eligible would be

11:11 ↗ educational institutions of all sizes

11:14 ↗ hospital and outpatient treatment

11:15 ↗ clinics group homes

11:17 ↗ athletic leagues or teams professional

11:19 ↗ associations retirement associations

11:21 ↗ alumni groups

11:22 ↗ research institutions including medical

11:24 ↗ research fraternities and sororities

11:27 ↗ making or endowment funds media

11:28 ↗ organizations

11:30 ↗ 501c3 private non-operating foundations

11:33 ↗ parent-teacher groups any non-profit to

11:37 ↗ support a single organization

11:39 ↗ non-profits whose primary officer is the

11:41 ↗ city is

11:42 ↗ employee or an immediate family member

11:44 ↗ so again happy to

11:45 ↗ talk about this during the council's

11:47 ↗ discussion but this is a list of

11:49 ↗ non-eligible organizations that other

11:51 ↗ communities around america have used

11:54 ↗ so looking at eligibility criteria

11:57 ↗ asked that the organization to be in

11:59 ↗ existence for more than three years

12:01 ↗ have an irs 501 c 3 designation

12:04 ↗ certainly there are non-profits that do

12:06 ↗ not hold the c3 designation but would

12:09 ↗ have other

12:10 ↗ attributes of a c3 but we're

12:12 ↗ recommending that they would have a

12:13 ↗ valid

12:14 ↗ irs 501 c3 designation employ fewer than

12:17 ↗ 25 people

12:19 ↗ have an operational budget less than 3

12:20 ↗ million dollars have primary business

12:23 ↗ address in issaquah

12:24 ↗ or a bricks and mortar service location

12:26 ↗ within this aqua

12:27 ↗ uh in looking at the list of of

12:30 ↗ organizations that are registered in

12:31 ↗ this qual we noticed that there are

12:34 ↗ several

12:34 ↗ non-profits that may not be registered

12:36 ↗ for their primary business address in

12:38 ↗ this club

12:38 ↗ but do have a bricks and mortar

12:40 ↗ locations so if that would be the case

12:42 ↗ they would be eligible

12:44 ↗ in this program i'll be in good standing

12:46 ↗ with the washington secretary of state

12:48 ↗ occasionally organizations

12:50 ↗ fall out of standing for various reasons

12:52 ↗ usually for lack of filing appropriate

12:54 ↗ tax returns

12:55 ↗ and so it would need to be in good

12:57 ↗ standing with the state of washington

12:59 ↗ uh agencies would remain eligible for

13:02 ↗ the grant even if the organization had

13:03 ↗ received other co-bid related funding

13:06 ↗ from the city of isquak as mentioned

13:07 ↗ earlier certainly the council is aware

13:09 ↗ that there have been organizations 501

13:12 ↗ c3s that have received funding

13:14 ↗ so we're proposing that they would

13:15 ↗ remain eligible next that agency

13:18 ↗ services be funded

13:19 ↗ are limited to services provided within

13:21 ↗ squash city limits

13:22 ↗ again language we saw in other

13:24 ↗ communities in talking

13:26 ↗ certainly with one council member

13:27 ↗ council member d michelle raised some

13:29 ↗ questions about that we'd be happy to

13:31 ↗ talk further about that

13:33 ↗ the agency must be operational and able

13:35 ↗ to operate with cobia 19 funds

13:37 ↗ the funds must not be used for

13:39 ↗ inherently religious activities

13:41 ↗ next page clerk edgars

13:46 ↗ the agency must not require clients to

13:48 ↗ participate in inherently religious

13:49 ↗ activities or make faith proclamations

13:51 ↗ participate in programs or receive

13:53 ↗ services from these funds

13:54 ↗ no portions of these funds may be used

13:56 ↗ for upon religious worship religious

13:58 ↗ instruction or possiblization

14:00 ↗ the funds may be used to support

14:01 ↗ non-religious social services again

14:03 ↗ looking

14:04 ↗ at many other communities around america

14:06 ↗ many

14:07 ↗ religious organizations were funded but

14:10 ↗ in

14:10 ↗ keeping with appropriate separations of

14:12 ↗ certain strict and state this language

14:14 ↗ is the language we're recommending has

14:16 ↗ been reviewed by city attorney jim haney

14:18 ↗ and we feel comfortable that we uh we

14:20 ↗ cover that point

14:22 ↗ next that the agency must demonstrate

14:23 ↗ financial impact or loss

14:25 ↗ either from loss of revenue and

14:26 ↗ expansion of services related to coven

14:28 ↗ 19

14:29 ↗ equal to are in excess of the requested

14:31 ↗ amount and that applicant agencies

14:33 ↗ certified by affidavit that they have

14:35 ↗ not received funding from other sources

14:36 ↗ to cover the same needs as being

14:38 ↗ requested again we're happy to

14:41 ↗ make those organizations that we've

14:43 ↗ already funded continue to be eligible

14:45 ↗ for this program but we cannot cover uh

14:48 ↗ the same

14:49 ↗ costs that have been previously covered

14:52 ↗ by some by someone else through this

14:53 ↗ process so

14:55 ↗ uh house president members of the

14:56 ↗ council uh that is the program

14:59 ↗ uh that we've outlined for you again um

15:03 ↗ we'll be honest that this is liberally

15:05 ↗ uh sharing of the good work of our

15:08 ↗ our sister cities around america we

15:10 ↗ think this makes sense for

15:12 ↗ what the council was thinking about and

15:15 ↗ certainly happy to answer any questions

15:16 ↗ that you may have

15:20 ↗ thank you city administrator um and

15:22 ↗ council

15:23 ↗ if you have questions at this time

15:25 ↗ please indicate with the

15:38 ↗ chat

15:43 ↗ councilmember hall thank you

15:46 ↗ this councilmember hall accidentally

15:48 ↗ wrote question in the wrong spot at

15:50 ↗ first

15:50 ↗ um uh just real quick uh about

15:54 ↗ administration's decision not to include

15:55 ↗ c4s and sixes could you explain

15:58 ↗ was the reason that when you were

16:00 ↗ searching other communities weren't

16:02 ↗ were including those other communities

16:04 ↗ were being targeted and specific to c3s

16:06 ↗ is that what you said

16:08 ↗ uh yes council member hall members of

16:09 ↗ the council uh that was certainly part

16:11 ↗ of it

16:11 ↗ i think in reading other communities

16:14 ↗ discussions at this point

16:16 ↗ uh i think that some c4s and c6s again

16:18 ↗ have other revenue opportunities of the

16:20 ↗ revenue streams

16:22 ↗ even if they have been hurt by the

16:25 ↗ pandemic that those revenue streams

16:27 ↗ existed certainly the i think the

16:30 ↗ administration's happy

16:31 ↗ to talk further about this there are

16:33 ↗ very small number of c4s and c6s in the

16:36 ↗ community

16:36 ↗ and the council may wish to consider

16:38 ↗ rather than a a

16:40 ↗ competitive program for them you may

16:42 ↗ wish to just uh have specific grants

16:45 ↗ to those c4s and c6s not unlike what

16:47 ↗ you've done earlier than the pandemic

16:49 ↗ where

16:49 ↗ specific organizations were identified

16:52 ↗ and funding was provided

17:00 ↗ thank you and now we have a number of

17:02 ↗ questions so councilmember

17:03 ↗ walsh is next thank you

17:07 ↗ um now that the american recovery act i

17:10 ↗ think it's called

17:11 ↗ it has been passed and we know that

17:15 ↗ we will be receiving at some point funds

17:18 ↗ um

17:19 ↗ total amount yet to be determined all of

17:21 ↗ that um

17:22 ↗ have we considered looking at this in a

17:26 ↗ more

17:26 ↗ holistic look at all of the needs in the

17:29 ↗ community

17:30 ↗ and address those with a bigger pot of

17:34 ↗ money

17:35 ↗ rather than well not necessarily rather

17:37 ↗ than but

17:38 ↗ as a way to understand what our needs

17:41 ↗ are

17:42 ↗ and what our funding possibilities might

17:44 ↗ be uh

17:46 ↗ yes thank you councilmember walsh i

17:49 ↗ think

17:49 ↗ mayor paulie put forward this proposal

17:51 ↗ before we knew that there was going to

17:53 ↗ be federal funding so i think that

17:54 ↗ you know the first answer to your

17:56 ↗ question is that what we have before you

17:57 ↗ tonight

17:58 ↗ but we feel there's a certain sense of

17:59 ↗ urgency too uh with that said

18:02 ↗ uh the the united states senate has

18:04 ↗ surpassed the version of the

18:06 ↗ recovery act uh over the weekend my

18:09 ↗ understanding is the house of

18:10 ↗ representatives

18:11 ↗ will have the bill again to consider

18:14 ↗ over the next several days

18:16 ↗ what i'd like to do right now is share

18:17 ↗ with you uh the language

18:20 ↗ that is in the bill the united states

18:22 ↗ conference of mayors

18:24 ↗ provided that language over the weekend

18:27 ↗ and i just need to quickly remind myself

18:30 ↗ how to share oh i don't know that i can

18:32 ↗ share uh clerk

18:34 ↗ edgards i my share button is not

18:36 ↗ illuminated

18:37 ↗ is that something you can fix or perhaps

18:39 ↗ i can just email it to you

18:42 ↗ what do you suggest yeah let's try

18:44 ↗ passing the presenter

18:46 ↗ icon to you and if that doesn't work out

18:49 ↗ then we can

18:53 ↗ i i didn't realize i lost that ability

18:55 ↗ with the webex upgrade so let's see if i

18:58 ↗ get it back

19:06 ↗ all right it says i'm now a presenter so

19:08 ↗ let's see

19:11 ↗ see how easy it is for me to do this

19:34 ↗ do you all see a document that says use

19:36 ↗ of funds at the top

19:38 ↗ we do it's rather small if you could

19:41 ↗ increase your

19:42 ↗ percentage for the bottom corner of your

19:44 ↗ screen

19:51 ↗ also a lot of typos yeah

19:55 ↗ i needed to put a dash between non and

19:56 ↗ entitlement so

19:58 ↗ uh what i did the the document was about

20:00 ↗ 600 pages

20:02 ↗ um the conference of mayors highlighted

20:04 ↗ about 60 pages

20:06 ↗ and so i cut and paste from a pdf so i

20:08 ↗ apologize if

20:09 ↗ if you see some words there that are

20:11 ↗ that are typoed

20:12 ↗ but as far as use of funds

20:16 ↗ it says that the funds should be can be

20:19 ↗ used by december 31

20:21 ↗ 2024 and then the requirements are

20:25 ↗ to respond to a public health emergency

20:28 ↗ with respect to the coba 19 or negative

20:31 ↗ economic impacts including assistance to

20:33 ↗ households small businesses nonprofits

20:35 ↗ or aid to impacted industries such as

20:37 ↗ tourism travel and hospitality

20:40 ↗ b to respond to workers performing

20:44 ↗ essential work during cobia 19 public

20:45 ↗ health emergency by providing premium

20:47 ↗ pay

20:48 ↗ to eligible workers of the metropolitan

20:50 ↗ city non-entitlement unit of the

20:52 ↗ government

20:52 ↗ and what a non-entitlement unit of

20:54 ↗ government is

20:56 ↗ is based on the community development

20:58 ↗ block grant formula

20:59 ↗ there are communities that automatically

21:02 ↗ receive a

21:03 ↗ portion of funds through the cdbg

21:05 ↗ program and then the rest of the

21:07 ↗ cities in america are known as

21:10 ↗ non-entitlements so we are a

21:12 ↗ non-entitlement

21:13 ↗ uh unit of local government

21:16 ↗ so again to provide for eligible workers

21:18 ↗ that are performing such essential work

21:20 ↗ or providing grants to eligible

21:21 ↗ employers

21:22 ↗ that have eligible workers who perform

21:24 ↗ essential work

21:25 ↗ c for the provision

21:29 ↗ of government services to the extent of

21:31 ↗ the reduction in revenue of such

21:32 ↗ metropolitan city

21:35 ↗ due to the covet 19 public health

21:36 ↗ emergency relatives of

21:38 ↗ revenues collected in the most recent

21:40 ↗ full fiscal year

21:41 ↗ of the city prior to the emergency and

21:44 ↗ then last

21:45 ↗ is to make necessary investments in

21:46 ↗ water sewer or broadband infrastructure

21:50 ↗ so that is what's in the bill uh what is

21:53 ↗ problematic as far as

21:57 ↗ of how this actually will work i think

21:58 ↗ we need to wait obviously the bill has

22:00 ↗ not been passed completely it's not been

22:01 ↗ signed by the president

22:03 ↗ but i knew in speaking with many of you

22:06 ↗ uh that you were interested about the

22:07 ↗ specifics so i wanted to have those

22:09 ↗ um to share with you this evening so

22:12 ↗ councilmember walsh

22:13 ↗ um i think that answer is part of your

22:16 ↗ question let me take this down

22:18 ↗ um

22:22 ↗ so i guess i would ask my other council

22:24 ↗ members if

22:26 ↗ people are if we're interested in

22:30 ↗ once the bill is passed scheduling some

22:32 ↗ time

22:33 ↗ to talk over the needs of the community

22:35 ↗ and

22:37 ↗ how we would want to allocate

22:40 ↗ those funds um to have that conversation

22:43 ↗ so that we don't continue to piecemeal

22:47 ↗ out funds to the community so

22:50 ↗ that would be my question and if i can

22:52 ↗ just add i think mayor paulie's

22:55 ↗ feeling it's very important uh that we

22:57 ↗ we do do that i think there are still

22:59 ↗ a number of unknown pieces to this i

23:01 ↗ think the administration would like some

23:02 ↗ time to

23:03 ↗ to be thoughtful we have multiple years

23:05 ↗ we have until the end of 2024

23:08 ↗ to spend the money and so there may be

23:10 ↗ an opportunity to come up with a

23:11 ↗ multi-year plan

23:13 ↗ that would make sense so council

23:15 ↗ president members of the council uh

23:17 ↗ you know we're certainly administration

23:19 ↗ certainly willing to do that

23:20 ↗ but again let me emphasize the reason

23:22 ↗ we're here tonight is that mayor

23:23 ↗ paulie's feeling

23:24 ↗ uh that the the nonprofit issue was

23:27 ↗ important was something that the council

23:29 ↗ felt was important

23:30 ↗ and we believe we should move forward

23:31 ↗ with clearly the money that we're

23:33 ↗ expecting to get

23:35 ↗ which is somewhere between seven and a

23:36 ↗ half and eight million dollars assuming

23:38 ↗ nothing else happens

23:39 ↗ uh with the bill and really uh until we

23:42 ↗ get a note from the state of washington

23:43 ↗ when they have the cash in hand i

23:45 ↗ you know we don't want to spend too much

23:47 ↗ of it but i think that

23:48 ↗ a hundred thousand dollars at this point

23:51 ↗ we can expect to

23:52 ↗ uh have as at least portion of the money

23:54 ↗ that we would get from the federal

23:55 ↗ government

24:01 ↗ thank you um next question

24:05 ↗ is from councilmember martz thank you

24:08 ↗ council president

24:09 ↗ uh my question is do we have an idea

24:13 ↗ um how many organizations would qualify

24:16 ↗ i saw

24:17 ↗ email threads from one of my fellow

24:19 ↗ council members that

24:21 ↗ was trying to parse some of the

24:24 ↗ criterion i'm wondering if

24:26 ↗ the administration thinks that's

24:30 ↗ the right list or how it relates to

24:33 ↗ is there an idea of how many

24:35 ↗ organizations would qualify to compare

24:36 ↗ to

24:37 ↗ uh the number of grants that are

24:39 ↗ proposed this evening

24:42 ↗ uh thank you councilman remarks members

24:43 ↗ of the council we have looked i believe

24:46 ↗ have provided the council

24:47 ↗ a list from the internal revenue service

24:49 ↗ website of those

24:51 ↗ nonprofits that are have a business

24:53 ↗ address registered here and i think that

24:55 ↗ the initial thought that we had was that

24:58 ↗ might be the universe but upon further

25:00 ↗ reflection we realize that that's likely

25:02 ↗ not true

25:03 ↗ because of non-profits that may

25:06 ↗ operate regionally and either have a

25:09 ↗ physical presence here bricks and mortar

25:10 ↗ or provide services

25:12 ↗ here in the community so that initial

25:14 ↗ list was i think 300

25:15 ↗ odd uh number so certainly that number

25:19 ↗ would be in excess of that

25:20 ↗ we do not have an exact figure or even

25:22 ↗ an estimate i mean i would

25:24 ↗ i would say another 50 or 75

25:27 ↗ perhaps just as a approximate guess

25:30 ↗ so you know let's say that there's in

25:32 ↗ the 400 range

25:34 ↗ but again when you also then look at

25:35 ↗ what we're proposing that would not be

25:37 ↗ eligible

25:38 ↗ that also then takes that number down a

25:41 ↗ bit so we have not

25:43 ↗ done any kind of cross tabulations to to

25:45 ↗ come up with an idea more precisely

25:48 ↗ um again we feel the hundred thousand

25:49 ↗ dollars makes sense at this juncture

25:52 ↗ okay but the number that i saw from one

25:54 ↗ of my fellow council members

25:56 ↗ was like six organizations would meet

25:58 ↗ the criteria

26:00 ↗ i i believe council member march members

26:02 ↗ of the council that that was looking at

26:03 ↗ the c4s and c6's

26:05 ↗ so we were we were looking at the c3s

26:09 ↗ and then there was a much larger number

26:11 ↗ of c3s and then a smaller number of c4s

26:13 ↗ and c6's

26:14 ↗ um i know that i'm sorry but it's was

26:18 ↗ referred to as 501

26:19 ↗ 3c analysis and it refers to it as c3

26:25 ↗ i'm now very confused throughout that

26:28 ↗ analysis

26:29 ↗ maybe i could ask the fellow council

26:31 ↗ member that did that analysis to speak

26:33 ↗ to it because it says c3 everywhere

26:39 ↗ yes this is oh great

26:42 ↗ go ahead councilmember do you michelle i

26:44 ↗ think this question is for you

26:45 ↗ yes um yes this is councilmember d

26:48 ↗ michelle yeah i did go through

26:49 ↗ kind of a scenario practice uh just to

26:52 ↗ see what i can find but

26:54 ↗ one thing i need to point out is that

26:55 ↗ the criteria that's being suggested now

26:58 ↗ by the administration is different

27:00 ↗ uh than the criteria that i was using so

27:02 ↗ that

27:03 ↗ that would make quite a bit of

27:04 ↗ difference uh and also i didn't have

27:07 ↗ that larger list

27:08 ↗ that uh city administrator bob kowitz is

27:10 ↗ referring to i just had the initial

27:13 ↗ i think i had 216 organizations that i

27:15 ↗ was applying

27:17 ↗ my criteria to so that's going to make a

27:20 ↗ difference in the outcome

27:21 ↗ of uh of what we have here

27:24 ↗ okay um thank you i i still am a little

27:28 ↗ in the dark

27:28 ↗ in the sense that if we're proposing

27:32 ↗ having 17 grand you know 17

27:35 ↗ grands out of 20 non-profits would be a

27:38 ↗ remarkable coverage

27:40 ↗ 17 grants out of 400 organizations

27:44 ↗ uh would be pretty light coverage and so

27:46 ↗ i struggle a little bit to understand

27:48 ↗ how what we're proposing compares to the

27:50 ↗ potential

27:51 ↗ target audience but i'm not sure i'm

27:53 ↗ going to get an answer to my questions

27:56 ↗ thank you and if council president if i

27:58 ↗ may

27:59 ↗ we have not done that cross tabulation

28:01 ↗ and if that's something that the council

28:03 ↗ would like us to do

28:04 ↗ and go through at least the list of

28:07 ↗ non-profits

28:09 ↗ that are registered here eliminate those

28:12 ↗ if you believe the categorization for

28:14 ↗ elimination is appropriate

28:16 ↗ that's at least one further step than we

28:18 ↗ have taken to this point

28:20 ↗ you know the other a lot more wild card

28:23 ↗ is

28:23 ↗ what other non-profits are here that may

28:26 ↗ not be registered here but provide

28:27 ↗ service here

28:29 ↗ and that's i think a little bit harder

28:30 ↗ to put a precise number on

28:37 ↗ thank you um councilmember martz do you

28:40 ↗ have any

28:41 ↗ further questions not questions thank

28:44 ↗ you

28:44 ↗ okay um councilmember d michelle

28:49 ↗ thank you this is councilmember d

28:50 ↗ michelle and my question is

28:52 ↗ kind of following up on councilmember

28:54 ↗ martz um

28:57 ↗ since we're really in uncharted

28:59 ↗ territory here we

29:00 ↗ we really don't know the numbers we

29:02 ↗ really don't know

29:03 ↗ how this is going to play out and i

29:05 ↗ notice that you you know you have a

29:06 ↗ split

29:07 ↗ in the proposal between i'm trying to

29:10 ↗ look here and find it here

29:12 ↗ um you know a proposal of possibly up to

29:16 ↗ 11 a grants

29:17 ↗ for employees of one to ten or one

29:20 ↗ people

29:20 ↗ are businesses that have uh employees of

29:24 ↗ one to ten

29:25 ↗ and then maybe six grants for employees

29:27 ↗ that have 11 to 25

29:29 ↗ and i'm just wondering if there is a way

29:31 ↗ that we could build in some flexibility

29:33 ↗ into that split so that let's say we get

29:38 ↗ 15 grand applications from the smaller

29:42 ↗ group

29:42 ↗ and only three from the larger group um

29:46 ↗ it seems like we really don't know how

29:48 ↗ that's going to play out at this point

29:51 ↗ and so maybe talk a little bit about how

29:53 ↗ you come up with that split

29:54 ↗ and so we can understand that before we

29:56 ↗ have a discussion

30:00 ↗ uh cost member d michelle members of the

30:01 ↗ council uh

30:03 ↗ i think the sense was that there was an

30:06 ↗ interest in

30:07 ↗ funding smaller organizations over

30:08 ↗ larger organizations and i think is

30:10 ↗ it became a matter of simple math that

30:13 ↗ with with a limited amount we took the

30:14 ↗ same allocations the

30:16 ↗ 5 000 and 7 500 which we provided the

30:19 ↗ business grants

30:20 ↗ and so it's the number that that fit

30:23 ↗ based on the hundred thousand dollars

30:27 ↗ i wish i could claim that this was a

30:30 ↗ more finally

30:31 ↗ crafted uh proposal uh but given

30:34 ↗ the parameters there are certain

30:37 ↗ limitations there are limitations by the

30:38 ↗ extra amount of money you wish to spend

30:40 ↗ there are limitations by who's eligible

30:43 ↗ and so i think the administration's

30:45 ↗ attempt this evening was not to present

30:46 ↗ the perfect proposal but at least one

30:48 ↗ that had parameters that the council

30:50 ↗ could speak to

30:58 ↗ okay um do you council member d michelle

31:01 ↗ do you have any follow-up questions to

31:03 ↗ that

31:05 ↗ uh not right now thank you okay um

31:09 ↗ council deputy president ray uh thank

31:12 ↗ you council president hunt this is chris

31:14 ↗ ray uh two questions somewhat related

31:16 ↗ but but not

31:17 ↗ not wholly related the first is we

31:20 ↗ talked about

31:22 ↗ grants to not-for-profits who are

31:25 ↗ operating in this squad but aren't based

31:29 ↗ in issaquah

31:30 ↗ from a number of employees perspective

31:33 ↗ are we

31:34 ↗ going to look at them from a aggregate

31:37 ↗ or

31:37 ↗ number in issaquah or have we have we

31:40 ↗ even

31:40 ↗ thought through kind of how we would uh

31:43 ↗ cipher out what their size

31:45 ↗ categorization

31:46 ↗ would be could be might be uh

31:49 ↗ deputy council president i think you

31:51 ↗ raise a an important issue

31:52 ↗ um i think it would be difficult for us

31:55 ↗ to assess through that

31:56 ↗ um you know the ywca if

32:00 ↗ i'm correct that has the facility in the

32:02 ↗ highlands that is a regional

32:05 ↗ nonprofit i would imagine they exceed 25

32:08 ↗ staff members throughout their entire

32:10 ↗ organization so

32:12 ↗ under this would not be eligible and so

32:14 ↗ either

32:15 ↗ that's that's a good thing because it's

32:18 ↗ a larger organization and this grant

32:20 ↗ program is really geared towards smaller

32:21 ↗ organizations

32:22 ↗ or it's a bad thing because they may

32:24 ↗ very well have less than 25

32:26 ↗ employees that work in the community so

32:28 ↗ i think you know

32:30 ↗ there are probably arguments for either

32:32 ↗ either way to go with that

32:33 ↗ uh ultimately i think it's the council's

32:35 ↗ decision who is this program for

32:37 ↗ um is it for everybody and we spread the

32:41 ↗ spread the peanut butter as

32:43 ↗ as as well as we can or are we really

32:46 ↗ focused on

32:47 ↗ those that are smaller those that are

32:48 ↗ really only focused on this claw

32:51 ↗ i mean i think that helps narrow that

32:54 ↗ down but ultimately as a policy decision

32:56 ↗ for this council that's um an

32:58 ↗ interesting

32:59 ↗ uh kind of almost segue into part two of

33:01 ↗ that which is

33:02 ↗ you know really having a clarity of

33:06 ↗ why why the why behind this grant

33:08 ↗ program it was

33:09 ↗ you know with the business grants it was

33:11 ↗ clear to me and this is a bit of a

33:13 ↗ editorial but bear with me

33:14 ↗ it was really clear to me we were trying

33:16 ↗ to keep businesses that were likely to

33:18 ↗ fail so

33:19 ↗ i just want to know if we can articulate

33:23 ↗ the why behind this grant program

33:25 ↗ because i think that will help us inform

33:27 ↗ and reach a consensus on on how best to

33:29 ↗ move that forward

33:30 ↗ uh my second question um is related to

33:34 ↗ outreach

33:35 ↗ and because these uh not-for-profits um

33:40 ↗ tend not to have huge staffs who are

33:42 ↗ watching what we're up to is how are we

33:44 ↗ planning to get out to

33:45 ↗ this community and say this is an

33:47 ↗ opportunity that you might want to

33:49 ↗ pursue have you given that any

33:53 ↗ noodling uh deputy council president

33:57 ↗ members of the council

33:58 ↗ yeah we've given a little bit of

33:59 ↗ noodling we've been very lucky

34:01 ↗ uh with the outreach we've done on the

34:03 ↗ business grants so for example

34:05 ↗ the the latest round of business grants

34:07 ↗ just closed we had 136

34:09 ↗ applications and so um you know that's

34:12 ↗ through social media

34:14 ↗ mostly that's through the city's

34:15 ↗ newsletter uh i think we would continue

34:18 ↗ that

34:18 ↗ certainly we have staff members who work

34:21 ↗ with various types of nonprofits

34:23 ↗ in the community and i think we would

34:24 ↗ leverage those

34:26 ↗ you know professional connections that

34:28 ↗ our individual staff members have

34:31 ↗ i think people will find out about this

34:32 ↗ very quickly

34:34 ↗ i don't i'm not worried that we could

34:37 ↗ get the word out in a way that

34:39 ↗ covers everyone who might be eligible

34:42 ↗ thank you

34:48 ↗ okay i have one question also um so this

34:51 ↗ is council president hunt and

34:53 ↗ uh my question is around home-based

34:57 ↗ potential home-based non-profits um when

35:00 ↗ we had the small business grants um the

35:03 ↗ last round of small business grants

35:04 ↗ there was a category specifically for

35:07 ↗ home-based businesses and then um in

35:10 ↗ this

35:10 ↗ non-profit program there's that same

35:14 ↗ breakdown based on employees but not

35:16 ↗ that category for

35:17 ↗ home-based businesses and i wondered if

35:21 ↗ they would qualify under this and then

35:23 ↗ also what

35:24 ↗ additional considerations should we

35:28 ↗ take into account regarding potential

35:30 ↗ for home based

35:31 ↗ nonprofit

35:36 ↗ cat surprise is that a question or a

35:38 ↗ statement i'm sorry

35:40 ↗ that's a question so it's around you

35:42 ↗ know what a home-based

35:44 ↗ non-profit be eligible under these

35:46 ↗ criteria and then

35:47 ↗ if so why not separate them out in the

35:51 ↗ same way that we did with the business

35:53 ↗ program because the business because as

35:55 ↗ far as i can tell everything else is

35:56 ↗ basically modeled after the last round

35:58 ↗ of business grants

36:01 ↗ uh thank you so much president members

36:03 ↗ of the council

36:04 ↗ a couple of things first of all i think

36:06 ↗ uh the kobit

36:08 ↗ uh crisis has i think forced some folks

36:10 ↗ to work from home

36:12 ↗ and so i would think if there are

36:13 ↗ non-profits that maybe had

36:15 ↗ an office somewhere that they might be

36:17 ↗ in a home and i wouldn't want to

36:18 ↗ discriminate

36:19 ↗ against them i think the non-profit

36:22 ↗ organizations are different than

36:23 ↗ businesses

36:24 ↗ they are especially 501 c3s they have to

36:26 ↗ have bylaws they have to

36:28 ↗ go through an incorporation process they

36:30 ↗ have to petition

36:32 ↗ the irs for their designation so i think

36:34 ↗ there's a little bit more substance

36:36 ↗ generally to them than perhaps every

36:39 ↗ single business

36:40 ↗ that might be registered to do business

36:42 ↗ in this class so i think there is that

36:44 ↗ difference

36:45 ↗ so at this point if it is a home-based

36:47 ↗ non-profit i think that they would

36:48 ↗ continue to be

36:49 ↗ eligible and i think that given how

36:51 ↗ non-profits are organized

36:53 ↗ and what the process is required to

36:54 ↗ become a 501 c 3

36:56 ↗ is sufficient to to recognize that

36:59 ↗ that's a

37:00 ↗ it's not good and they certify that

37:01 ↗ they're ongoing and

37:03 ↗ continue to operate i think that's

37:04 ↗ sufficient

37:07 ↗ okay thank you um i am not seeing any

37:10 ↗ other

37:10 ↗ questions uh so i'll just

37:14 ↗ wait i'll pause one minute in case

37:16 ↗ anybody has a late breaking question

37:20 ↗ okay i'm not seeing anything um so we do

37:23 ↗ have a public comment period

37:24 ↗ at this point in the meeting um

37:30 ↗ clerk eggers has anybody on the line and

37:32 ↗ potentially was

37:33 ↗ wishing to speak

37:37 ↗ two attendees um if you'd like to raise

37:39 ↗ your hand

37:40 ↗ if you'd like this opportunity to

37:42 ↗ address the council

37:44 ↗ if you're unable to find that you can

37:45 ↗ send

37:47 ↗ your hosts a quick message

37:50 ↗ give you a moment to either raise your

37:53 ↗ virtual hand or just send a quick

38:02 ↗ message

38:07 ↗ not seeing any activity okay

38:10 ↗ um and just would reiterate that if if

38:13 ↗ you'd like to address the council

38:15 ↗ through email you can reach them and

38:17 ↗ city council at issaquah.gov

38:20 ↗ thank you yes thank you clerk eggers

38:23 ↗ um and at this time i will also

38:26 ↗ summarize um emails this is something

38:28 ↗ that that we have been doing

38:30 ↗ while we're in the virtual meeting

38:32 ↗ format and

38:34 ↗ we didn't receive any emails

38:36 ↗ specifically on

38:37 ↗ this id um on this informational item

38:40 ↗ for this evening but

38:41 ↗ previously we did receive an email that

38:44 ↗ i think is relevant

38:45 ↗ and that was urging consideration for

38:48 ↗ our

38:49 ↗ including nonprofits in the small

38:52 ↗ business grants and specifically

38:53 ↗ including c4s and c6s in those small

38:56 ↗ business

38:56 ↗ grants and this email also explains the

38:59 ↗ expenses that c4s and c6s

39:02 ↗ have and how those are um similar to the

39:05 ↗ same sort of expenses

39:06 ↗ and same sort of um challenges that some

39:09 ↗ businesses have been experiencing

39:11 ↗ with uh copa19 and that concludes the

39:14 ↗ email summary

39:16 ↗ so at this time we will move into

39:19 ↗ council

39:20 ↗ discussion um and i will open up the

39:22 ↗ chat again

39:25 ↗ okay um so we do uh so i will open up

39:28 ↗ for a council discussion i see council

39:30 ↗ member marks would like to start off the

39:31 ↗ discussion

39:32 ↗ thank you council president uh two

39:35 ↗ things

39:36 ↗ when um i i would like to see this come

39:39 ↗ back

39:39 ↗ um uh see a bill brought forward

39:43 ↗ um with the particulars as stated

39:46 ↗ tonight but i do want

39:47 ↗ some supplemental information one

39:50 ↗ is i do want to understand the potential

39:52 ↗ pool of applicants

39:55 ↗ that would meet the criteria i like the

39:57 ↗ criteria i appreciate the administration

40:00 ↗ uh looking and seeing how other

40:01 ↗ municipalities have done this

40:03 ↗ so what kinds of organizations would get

40:05 ↗ sifted out

40:06 ↗ by that are insisted in i guess uh by

40:09 ↗ that criteria

40:10 ↗ and the other thing is this one's a

40:12 ↗ little bit harder i want to understand

40:14 ↗ the need a little bit better i think

40:15 ↗ there's been

40:16 ↗ some questions about um do we know that

40:19 ↗ there is the kind of need there is in

40:20 ↗ the business community i think that

40:22 ↗ we've heard

40:23 ↗ loud and clearly from our business

40:24 ↗ community so if there's a way to

40:27 ↗ understand whether c3s

40:30 ↗ the extent to which c3s are being

40:32 ↗ impacted

40:33 ↗ by kovit i'm not sure i've heard that

40:36 ↗ yet

40:36 ↗ and before i could uh

40:40 ↗ consider spending that money i would

40:43 ↗ want to make sure that we understood

40:45 ↗ the problem that would be solved and i

40:48 ↗ realized that's fairly short notice but

40:50 ↗ um and i don't know it's the exact way

40:52 ↗ to answer that question but it's

40:54 ↗ uh it's my thoughts from the

40:55 ↗ conversation this evening thank you

41:01 ↗ okay thank you i'm councilmember dee

41:03 ↗ michelle

41:05 ↗ thank you um i'd like to start off with

41:08 ↗ uh this is councilmember d michelle

41:09 ↗ sorry i'd like to start off uh

41:12 ↗ looking at the question that uh

41:15 ↗ city administrator bob quits referred to

41:18 ↗ the criteria that says

41:21 ↗ sorry i'm looking for it here it says

41:24 ↗ agency services to be funded are limited

41:26 ↗ to services provided within

41:28 ↗ issaquah city limits and i

41:31 ↗ i want to acknowledge that i thoroughly

41:33 ↗ understand the intent

41:34 ↗ of that statement but i also know the

41:37 ↗ reality of

41:39 ↗ social service agencies and that sounds

41:42 ↗ to me like a

41:43 ↗ first of all a barrier to application

41:46 ↗ and secondly a reporting nightmare for

41:48 ↗ um social service agencies because we're

41:51 ↗ really in a regional

41:53 ↗ most of our social service agencies are

41:55 ↗ in uh much more of a regional

41:58 ↗ world um

41:59 ↗ [Music]

42:01 ↗ uh they many of them have policies

42:04 ↗ of not turning away anybody and so

42:07 ↗ that's that's one

42:08 ↗ problem but the other is that uh

42:12 ↗ being located in issaquah they tend to

42:15 ↗ draw people

42:16 ↗ from i don't know from south south of us

42:19 ↗ from east of us west of us north of us

42:22 ↗ who don't live within those city limits

42:24 ↗ but need those services and so they

42:26 ↗ cross over

42:28 ↗ and so i know that for example the food

42:30 ↗ clothing bank has kind of struggled with

42:32 ↗ this

42:32 ↗ issue how who do they serve where do

42:34 ↗ they serve them

42:35 ↗ and there are some generally agreed

42:38 ↗ guidelines that they've agreed to

42:40 ↗ i think other agencies have the same

42:42 ↗ issue

42:44 ↗ we live within a large school district

42:47 ↗ uh and a lot of times when you're

42:48 ↗ serving younger people you're serving

42:50 ↗ the whole district instead of just

42:52 ↗ those people that live within the city

42:53 ↗ limits so i would

42:55 ↗ i would like to see something brought

42:57 ↗ back i'm

42:58 ↗ i'm thinking if we if we talked about

43:00 ↗ the issaquah community

43:02 ↗ or the greater issaquah community if

43:04 ↗ that might be a more realistic thing

43:06 ↗ for our nonprofits to deal with first of

43:10 ↗ all from

43:11 ↗ again from an application standpoint but

43:13 ↗ also from a reporting standpoint back to

43:16 ↗ us

43:17 ↗ i'm not sure that they would even be

43:19 ↗ able to identify

43:20 ↗ which one of their clients are within

43:22 ↗ issaquah city limits

43:24 ↗ and which ones are just over the line

43:27 ↗ uh you know to the east or west or south

43:29 ↗ of us so

43:30 ↗ um i wonder if we could just do that a

43:32 ↗ little bit bigger and give

43:34 ↗ give those non-profits a little bit more

43:36 ↗ flexibility

43:37 ↗ uh and not use the word city limits

43:39 ↗ there

43:42 ↗ and um so um and i have other comments

43:45 ↗ but i think i just

43:46 ↗ like to see the floor to somebody else

43:49 ↗ and come back later

43:50 ↗ thank you okay

43:53 ↗ um uh council deputy president ray

43:57 ↗ thank you council president hunt this is

43:58 ↗ chris roy i have uh

44:00 ↗ a couple of things that i would like to

44:03 ↗ consider

44:03 ↗ including one is since we did not

44:06 ↗ include

44:07 ↗ the c4s or the c6s and the business

44:09 ↗ grants i would like to see them

44:11 ↗ um included in these grants here as i

44:15 ↗ think

44:15 ↗ we do have fours and sixes that that are

44:18 ↗ struggling

44:18 ↗ and though they they have a different uh

44:22 ↗ business model um i think that it would

44:25 ↗ make sense to do that

44:27 ↗ the other thing when we were talking

44:29 ↗ about our businesses

44:30 ↗ and we went with the lottery it was

44:32 ↗ because we didn't have complete

44:34 ↗ information

44:35 ↗ and we really couldn't assess needs and

44:38 ↗ i'm

44:38 ↗ i would like us to give some thought to

44:41 ↗ for the not-for-profit to really

44:43 ↗ assessing the need instead of

44:45 ↗ you know random lottery because there

44:48 ↗ probably are some that are truly in need

44:50 ↗ and some that are

44:51 ↗ are less so and then my final comment is

44:54 ↗ uh

44:54 ↗ kind of a piggybacking on councilmember

44:56 ↗ d michelle and and maybe it's not

44:59 ↗ that you have to provide services solely

45:02 ↗ within the city of visqua but that you

45:04 ↗ provide some level of service within the

45:07 ↗ city of essequa

45:08 ↗ so that you know we're not getting

45:11 ↗ people who are

45:12 ↗ who are simply providing services

45:15 ↗ somewhere else and

45:17 ↗ applying for these grants so i think

45:18 ↗ there's some ways to get around that so

45:19 ↗ those are my

45:20 ↗ my initial things i would like to see

45:23 ↗ considered

45:28 ↗ thank you councilmember hall

45:31 ↗ thank you council president hunt this is

45:33 ↗ councilmember hall and uh everyone

45:35 ↗ please bear with me i have a bunch of

45:37 ↗ uh broken unstructured thoughts i'm just

45:39 ↗ gonna work through

45:41 ↗ on the diocese um i think uh councilman

45:44 ↗ d michelle brought up a really good

45:45 ↗ point

45:46 ↗ about um the service delivery aspect of

45:49 ↗ this

45:50 ↗ i think it gets to the question of you

45:52 ↗ know what

45:53 ↗ is the problem that we're trying to

45:54 ↗ solve here that could either be one

45:56 ↗ we're trying to support issaquah

45:58 ↗ residents or two were trying to support

46:00 ↗ non-profits themselves i would argue

46:03 ↗ it's probably a little bit of both

46:05 ↗ um so i think getting some more

46:08 ↗ information about that would be helpful

46:09 ↗ but

46:10 ↗ um i guess the way i'm thinking about it

46:13 ↗ is it's more in line with we're trying

46:15 ↗ to

46:15 ↗ support the actual nonprofit

46:17 ↗ organization just like we were

46:18 ↗ businesses

46:20 ↗ um i liked the question that was brought

46:23 ↗ up about you know really who's this

46:24 ↗ program for

46:25 ↗ small organizations large organizations

46:27 ↗ i think the hundred thousand dollar

46:30 ↗ pot is a good one if our

46:33 ↗ uh goal is to um

46:36 ↗ support smaller organizations now that

46:38 ↗ are really struggling

46:40 ↗ um and then moving into my next point

46:45 ↗ um really being able after we have a

46:47 ↗ better idea what the federal landscape

46:49 ↗ is in terms of

46:50 ↗ how much money we're getting um then

46:53 ↗ being able to

46:54 ↗ think big picture about how we can help

46:56 ↗ the community

46:58 ↗ and support the community across all

47:01 ↗ perspectives and i think that was um

47:04 ↗ council member walsh's point i thought

47:05 ↗ that was a really good one too

47:08 ↗ and then um i also would like to see

47:11 ↗ supports for

47:12 ↗ 501 c 4 and 6 organizations but

47:15 ↗ i think it's possible for us to target

47:18 ↗ supports

47:19 ↗ um to organizations that do community

47:21 ↗ building

47:22 ↗ and economic development work

47:25 ↗ within the borders within issaquah

47:30 ↗ i don't think it's a good idea to

47:34 ↗ just put them in the drawing along

47:38 ↗ 501 c3s i've had a couple of

47:39 ↗ conversations with people

47:41 ↗ in the c4 c6 world and they hate having

47:44 ↗ to go up

47:45 ↗ against c3s because they're direct

47:47 ↗ service providers and you don't want to

47:48 ↗ take money away from direct service

47:50 ↗ providers they do

47:50 ↗ they're they're doing it they're

47:52 ↗ fulfilling a really important need right

47:54 ↗ now during the pandemic

47:56 ↗ um so i think it might be worth

47:59 ↗ exploring i think a hundred thousand

48:01 ↗ dollars is still a good amount for right

48:03 ↗ now

48:04 ↗ but i think it might be worth exploring

48:06 ↗ including a third bracket

48:08 ↗ for targeted c4s and sixes if that's

48:10 ↗ possible i'm not sure i would be

48:12 ↗ open to other people's suggestions um

48:16 ↗ did i have anything else

48:20 ↗ i don't think so though if i do i'll get

48:22 ↗ back in line but those are my comments

48:24 ↗ right now thanks

48:31 ↗ um okay councilmember watch

48:34 ↗ thanks this is councilmember walsh um

48:37 ↗ i'll just jump on and say i appreciate

48:39 ↗ the

48:39 ↗ comments and questions that have been

48:41 ↗ asked previously and

48:42 ↗ i look forward to those answers and also

48:45 ↗ throw my hat into

48:46 ↗ the interest on the 501c4 c6s

48:50 ↗ either in with this group or as a

48:53 ↗ separate opportunity i think both

48:56 ↗ could solve the problems i think as far

48:59 ↗ as

49:00 ↗ what is the why and what is the need

49:02 ↗ we've heard from the 501 c4 and c6s that

49:04 ↗ there's a need

49:05 ↗ i'm not sure we've necessarily heard on

49:08 ↗ the

49:09 ↗ c3s and so that's one reason why

49:12 ↗ um i'm most interested in that one

49:15 ↗ portion

49:15 ↗ because i think the need has been

49:17 ↗ clearly expressed so

49:19 ↗ thanks

49:25 ↗ okay um i'm gonna make my comments and

49:28 ↗ then i'll look back around to other

49:29 ↗ council members if you want to

49:31 ↗ go around and have round two so um

49:35 ↗ my comments are first of all i am

49:38 ↗ very much interested in having the

49:41 ↗ larger

49:41 ↗ conversation about addressing all of the

49:44 ↗ needs i think we're not

49:45 ↗ yet at a place

49:49 ↗ information wise where we can really

49:51 ↗ have that conversation but

49:52 ↗ absolutely to council member walsh's

49:54 ↗ earlier question

49:55 ↗ i think that's a super important

49:58 ↗ conversation for us to have

49:59 ↗ as soon as possible and

50:02 ↗ i think that a holistic approach

50:06 ↗ will will be really beneficial and will

50:08 ↗ help us better serve the community

50:11 ↗ that said i think 100 000 for

50:14 ↗ non-profits we've we've um had several

50:17 ↗ rounds of the small business

50:18 ↗ grants and i think having small

50:22 ↗ having the non-profit grants at 100 000

50:24 ↗ will

50:25 ↗ you know in a way also allow us to

50:28 ↗ assess

50:29 ↗ the need because we'll see how many

50:31 ↗ grant applications in the first rounds

50:33 ↗ of the business grant applications we

50:35 ↗ got

50:35 ↗ a sense of the need um i think because

50:39 ↗ we saw how many applications and and

50:41 ↗ what expenses um

50:42 ↗ they had and then that was kind of an

50:44 ↗ anchor point for the subsequent rounds

50:46 ↗ of small business

50:47 ↗ fundings that we did allocate so i think

50:49 ↗ that this at least

50:50 ↗ gets us started um getting that

50:53 ↗ information that we can start acting on

50:55 ↗ because

50:55 ↗ i i think we don't have um a lot of

50:59 ↗ information

50:59 ↗ at this time and this was also came up

51:02 ↗ from several other council members

51:04 ↗ wanting more information

51:05 ↗ uh but you know this is one way that we

51:08 ↗ will i think

51:09 ↗ get some information um and i i also

51:12 ↗ think that the need is there

51:14 ↗ um just based on conversations with with

51:16 ↗ individuals in the community

51:18 ↗ um and the fact that copenhagen has

51:20 ↗ affected

51:22 ↗ every aspect of life um

51:26 ↗ and then i think there's some work to be

51:29 ↗ done

51:29 ↗ on the definitions in the um bill

51:33 ↗ i think for instance employee we need to

51:36 ↗ have a

51:36 ↗ clear definition of if that's salaried

51:38 ↗ full-time employee for

51:40 ↗ example um because that does matter in

51:42 ↗ terms of the qualifications

51:44 ↗ um so i would like to see more clarity

51:46 ↗ around that the question around whether

51:48 ↗ the

51:48 ↗ employee is in issaquah but the

51:52 ↗ larger organization is outside of

51:54 ↗ issaquah is interesting

51:55 ↗ and i think we would that would that's

51:57 ↗ another area where it'd be

51:59 ↗ good to have more definition on employee

52:02 ↗ um and then yeah lastly

52:05 ↗ uh in a number of the comments that were

52:08 ↗ made there was the question of why

52:09 ↗ um why are we spreading this and in my

52:12 ↗ mind i think it's

52:14 ↗ um because we have been trying to

52:17 ↗ address

52:18 ↗ needs associated with kobe 19 we've seen

52:20 ↗ that um

52:21 ↗ the small business community has really

52:24 ↗ um

52:24 ↗ appreciated that we've been able to

52:26 ↗ support them with grants and i think

52:28 ↗ that

52:29 ↗ i think that nonprofits have in many

52:32 ↗ cases

52:33 ↗ similar expenses and so for those that

52:36 ↗ do have similar expenses

52:37 ↗ i think we we should um

52:40 ↗ support them and that's why i'm

52:43 ↗ generally supportive of

52:45 ↗ the program at this time and would just

52:47 ↗ like more information

52:49 ↗ um and that's my comments at this point

52:52 ↗ so i will go back to

52:53 ↗ councilmember d michelle for round two

52:57 ↗ thank you this is councilmember d

52:59 ↗ michelle i'm going to echo

53:02 ↗ many of your comments um council

53:04 ↗ president hunt

53:05 ↗ um i am very supportive of this and

53:09 ↗ would yes like to have it brought back

53:10 ↗ to the council

53:12 ↗ um i think it's really important that we

53:14 ↗ recognize that nonprofit businesses

53:17 ↗ are and not always but in many cases

53:19 ↗ business entities

53:20 ↗ that provide jobs and pay rent and

53:22 ↗ utilities and buy and distribute

53:24 ↗ supplies

53:25 ↗ and all of the other things that

53:26 ↗ businesses do and these grants are

53:29 ↗ really aimed at the business

53:31 ↗ part of nonprofit businesses so

53:34 ↗ uh in that case i think we're we're

53:36 ↗ doing a really important

53:37 ↗ thing in recognizing that aspect of the

53:40 ↗ nonprofit world

53:42 ↗ nonprofits contribute to the economic

53:44 ↗ well-being of the city

53:45 ↗ by keeping people fed and clothed and in

53:48 ↗ their homes and in their schools

53:50 ↗ and keeping the lights and heat on and

53:52 ↗ addressing mental health

53:53 ↗ issues before they become crises and

53:55 ↗ many other kinds of human services

53:57 ↗ and these are all actions that lead to a

54:00 ↗ stable community

54:01 ↗ and a stable economy and that allow

54:04 ↗ people to continue to be customers

54:06 ↗ who buy products and services from fro

54:09 ↗ from for

54:10 ↗ profit businesses and so for me

54:13 ↗ that is the rationale for what we are

54:15 ↗ doing is

54:17 ↗ um the for-profit business world and the

54:20 ↗ non-profit business world

54:22 ↗ need each other they they go together

54:26 ↗ and they both support the economy of

54:28 ↗ this community

54:29 ↗ so i think we're taking a very important

54:32 ↗ step in recognizing that

54:34 ↗ um i

54:37 ↗ think that i would come down in favor of

54:42 ↗ including uh 51c fours and sixes in a

54:45 ↗ separate

54:46 ↗ grant program um possibly

54:51 ↗ a a set amount for each 501

54:55 ↗ 501 c 4 or 51c6 in our community that we

54:58 ↗ want to identify

55:00 ↗ rather than opening it up for

55:02 ↗ applications

55:03 ↗ just name those community organizations

55:06 ↗ that we want to support that fall into

55:08 ↗ that category

55:09 ↗ and provide grants and if we were to do

55:12 ↗ that i would

55:12 ↗ like to see the amount that we're

55:14 ↗ talking about doubled to 200

55:16 ↗ 000 and um

55:19 ↗ make room for those additional 501 c

55:23 ↗ fours and sixes

55:24 ↗ so that would be how i would like to see

55:26 ↗ that handled

55:27 ↗ um i think this i i really appreciate

55:31 ↗ all the work that's been put into this

55:32 ↗ by the administration

55:34 ↗ and um i think we're on the path

55:37 ↗ toward a good ordinance it's not quite

55:39 ↗ there i agree with council president

55:41 ↗ hunt we need

55:42 ↗ a few more definitions around some of

55:44 ↗ the words that have been used

55:46 ↗ but i think we're on our our way to a

55:48 ↗ good decision here

55:50 ↗ thank you

55:56 ↗ great um council deputy president ray

56:00 ↗ thank you council prison hunt this is

56:02 ↗ chris wray

56:03 ↗ a couple of things to pile on

56:07 ↗ one is uh the 501c

56:10 ↗ is a tax designation it's not a business

56:12 ↗ model and to council member d michelle's

56:15 ↗ point now these are these are businesses

56:18 ↗ that have operational needs

56:20 ↗ similar to the businesses that we

56:22 ↗ supported through the business grants

56:25 ↗ i think that we need to spend some time

56:27 ↗ before we

56:29 ↗ talk about expanding the size of the

56:30 ↗ grant to understand the need we don't

56:32 ↗ have a great deal of data to tell us the

56:35 ↗ size of the need

56:36 ↗ so i agree with council president hunt

56:38 ↗ that we will through this grant

56:39 ↗ application process have a better sense

56:41 ↗ of what the need is and then

56:43 ↗ if we have significant unmet need we can

56:45 ↗ have that further discussion

56:48 ↗ um i think to know to put a

56:52 ↗ kind of wrap this around we have done a

56:55 ↗ number of

56:56 ↗ grants for various uh supports for the

56:59 ↗ community over the last several months

57:01 ↗ and this is in my mind different this is

57:03 ↗ not about

57:04 ↗ um providing money to the not-for-profit

57:07 ↗ community to develop virtually delivered

57:09 ↗ services

57:10 ↗ this is about providing money to the

57:13 ↗ not-for-profit community

57:14 ↗ so that they can continue to operate and

57:16 ↗ that's why i'm a little bit more

57:18 ↗ flexible

57:18 ↗ on the geography of where the services

57:20 ↗ are delivered because

57:22 ↗ if the not-for-profit is operating here

57:24 ↗ then that is a

57:27 ↗ that is a business that we should

57:29 ↗ support just as we are supporting the

57:31 ↗ for-profit business community

57:35 ↗ that's all i have to say at this time

57:39 ↗ okay thank you

57:40 ↗ councilmember goodman thank you

57:43 ↗ councilmember goodman here

57:45 ↗ um so i agree with the comments about

57:48 ↗ um needing to better understand

57:52 ↗ the need um we did hear a lot from

57:54 ↗ businesses

57:55 ↗ um and i know we've had a

57:58 ↗ couple of comments from

58:02 ↗ um the

58:05 ↗ c3s i'm trying to re i'm trying to

58:07 ↗ recall

58:08 ↗ what we have heard about um

58:12 ↗ about the not-for-profits i know there

58:14 ↗ was a

58:15 ↗ mention by um the city administrator

58:18 ↗ there was a certain sense

58:20 ↗ of urgency and i'm not sure that i

58:23 ↗ agree that i've heard that it doesn't

58:25 ↗ mean that there isn't a need i just

58:27 ↗ don't quite understand

58:28 ↗ um what is it are we do we have some um

58:32 ↗ agencies that are able to provide

58:33 ↗ services because they're losing

58:35 ↗ operating money so they don't have

58:36 ↗ people

58:37 ↗ to provide those services or is there

58:39 ↗ not enough

58:40 ↗ money to provide services

58:43 ↗ the things i'm hearing in the community

58:45 ↗ are the not for profits

58:48 ↗ are receiving a lot of support

58:52 ↗ because there's a lot of concern

58:55 ↗ about them during the pandemic i don't

58:57 ↗ know how the true that is

58:58 ↗ um i'm wondering too if there's a way to

59:03 ↗ create some kind of a grant program

59:04 ↗ that's not so

59:06 ↗ much driven by labels 501c3 c4 c6 but

59:10 ↗ what if it was a

59:12 ↗ a community fund where they you know

59:15 ↗ you can apply for grants and we want i

59:19 ↗ think the

59:19 ↗ you know the bigger concern for these

59:22 ↗ types of

59:23 ↗ um agencies not prefer profits

59:27 ↗ are that we're getting the services out

59:29 ↗ there and they're not being

59:31 ↗ cut off um as councilmember d michelle

59:34 ↗ talked about you know they provide a lot

59:36 ↗ of good services

59:37 ↗ so what is the need how can we help and

59:39 ↗ and is this approach the right

59:41 ↗ the right one um by just delineating 501

59:44 ↗ c 3 c c4s and

59:45 ↗ c6s i'm not i'm not sure about that um

59:50 ↗ so i'd be interested more about the need

59:52 ↗ i'd be interested if there's another way

59:53 ↗ of doing it

59:54 ↗ i'm also interested in the opportunity

59:57 ↗ that the not-for-profits have

59:59 ↗ to do some fundraising along the same

1:00:01 ↗ lines of what i've heard

1:00:03 ↗ where they ask for what i've heard um

1:00:06 ↗ asking

1:00:07 ↗ a not-for-profit asking for money

1:00:10 ↗ and people are being very generous and

1:00:12 ↗ companies are being very generous

1:00:14 ↗ um five thousand dollars isn't a lot um

1:00:17 ↗ and i guess that's a double-edged um

1:00:20 ↗ comment there because

1:00:22 ↗ if you know five thousand dollars is not

1:00:24 ↗ a lot it could probably be easily

1:00:26 ↗ generated a fundraising campaign

1:00:29 ↗ but at the same time it's also not a lot

1:00:31 ↗ for

1:00:33 ↗ a not-for-profit if it's really that

1:00:35 ↗ desperate

1:00:36 ↗ um for the question about

1:00:41 ↗ having a conversation about the federal

1:00:44 ↗ relief

1:00:45 ↗ um i'm not so much interested in

1:00:47 ↗ starting off our conversation with the

1:00:49 ↗ council conversation

1:00:50 ↗ i mean i'm interested in what the

1:00:52 ↗ community thinks we should do

1:00:54 ↗ we've done a lot of talking ourselves

1:00:56 ↗ over the past year

1:00:57 ↗ about um about how to deal with the

1:01:01 ↗ emergencies during the pandemic and um

1:01:04 ↗ i you know i think as a group and as a

1:01:07 ↗ city we've been very thoughtful

1:01:09 ↗ but when we start getting that kind of

1:01:12 ↗ money and we start thinking about what

1:01:15 ↗ to do with it

1:01:16 ↗ especially in terms of the pandemic i'd

1:01:18 ↗ like to know what the community

1:01:20 ↗ with the community thinks so i think

1:01:22 ↗ that's a very important um

1:01:24 ↗ conversation to have it's an external

1:01:26 ↗ facing conversation not an internal one

1:01:28 ↗ thank you

1:01:32 ↗ thank you

1:01:35 ↗ um i am not seeing oh sorry

1:01:37 ↗ councilmember hall

1:01:40 ↗ thanks council president this is

1:01:41 ↗ councilmember hall um and i was i was

1:01:43 ↗ actually going to say something very

1:01:44 ↗ similar to

1:01:45 ↗ what council member goodman just

1:01:48 ↗ finished on

1:01:49 ↗ um and i guess first just um

1:01:52 ↗ directed at the community too if you're

1:01:54 ↗ watching this and if you have any

1:01:55 ↗ feedback

1:01:55 ↗ we would certainly love your feedback

1:01:57 ↗ via email

1:01:58 ↗ um on what you think we should be doing

1:02:01 ↗ to support nonprofits or any

1:02:02 ↗ organization in the community right now

1:02:04 ↗ and then i was also going to say

1:02:06 ↗ perhaps we could include something you

1:02:08 ↗ know as we get closer to having that

1:02:09 ↗ larger

1:02:10 ↗ broader conversation we could include

1:02:11 ↗ something in an e-newsletter that goes

1:02:14 ↗ out to the community like we would like

1:02:15 ↗ your feedback

1:02:16 ↗ on how to use these funds and i don't

1:02:19 ↗ know maybe that's something we could

1:02:21 ↗ discuss in the future but i completely

1:02:23 ↗ agree with councilmember goodman that we

1:02:24 ↗ should be

1:02:25 ↗ leading um from the community up

1:02:29 ↗ in this conversation so that was my

1:02:31 ↗ comment thanks

1:02:36 ↗ okay um now i'm not seeing any other

1:02:39 ↗ council members at this time um

1:02:44 ↗ so i uh i have some notes

1:02:48 ↗ here and i'll summarize them um i'll try

1:02:51 ↗ to

1:02:52 ↗ group them together so if you hear

1:02:54 ↗ something that you think is

1:02:55 ↗ uh not reflective of our conversation or

1:02:58 ↗ um or you think misrepresented the

1:03:01 ↗ conversation

1:03:02 ↗ then please comment afterwards and i

1:03:04 ↗ when we can make some

1:03:06 ↗ corrections so um council definitely

1:03:09 ↗ uh wanted more information to the extent

1:03:12 ↗ possible on

1:03:13 ↗ the needs of nonprofits

1:03:16 ↗ and on the applicant pool

1:03:22 ↗ there was some concern about the

1:03:24 ↗ limitation

1:03:25 ↗ the geographic limitation on

1:03:29 ↗ services being provided and i think

1:03:31 ↗ generally people

1:03:33 ↗ were more thinking of this as a way to

1:03:37 ↗ support nonprofits that employ people in

1:03:40 ↗ issaquah rather than

1:03:41 ↗ nonprofits that specifically only serve

1:03:44 ↗ people in issaquah and so i think

1:03:46 ↗ taking another look at that geographic

1:03:49 ↗ um

1:03:50 ↗ restriction would address that concern

1:03:54 ↗ potentially

1:03:55 ↗ there were several several council

1:03:58 ↗ members interested

1:03:59 ↗ in the c4 and c6s being either included

1:04:03 ↗ or being

1:04:04 ↗ addressed in a subsequent or separate

1:04:08 ↗ program but there was interest in

1:04:11 ↗ supporting

1:04:12 ↗ them um and assessing the needs and

1:04:14 ↗ supporting them

1:04:16 ↗ and then um

1:04:20 ↗ generally i heard support for the

1:04:21 ↗ hundred thousand amount

1:04:24 ↗ i one council member did um suggest

1:04:27 ↗ a larger amount if there was more but i

1:04:29 ↗ think generally

1:04:30 ↗ generally i heard consensus being that

1:04:32 ↗ it that the amount for this

1:04:34 ↗ time was um was

1:04:37 ↗ correct or that we were in agreement

1:04:39 ↗ that this was reasonable

1:04:40 ↗ and then um

1:04:44 ↗ lastly

1:04:47 ↗ uh well and then all um there was also

1:04:50 ↗ some concern

1:04:51 ↗ some interest in sort of assessing need

1:04:53 ↗ as the basis of the grants rather than

1:04:55 ↗ the

1:04:56 ↗ label the c4 and c6s which i think ties

1:04:58 ↗ into that

1:04:59 ↗ and then um lastly there was a lot of

1:05:02 ↗ conversation about

1:05:03 ↗ the federal stimulus funding and taking

1:05:06 ↗ a holistic approach for that and then

1:05:07 ↗ also

1:05:08 ↗ making sure that we include the

1:05:10 ↗ community in those conversations from

1:05:12 ↗ the very beginning and

1:05:13 ↗ taking a holistic look across the

1:05:16 ↗ community

1:05:16 ↗ for that federal stimulus and starting

1:05:18 ↗ those conversations off

1:05:20 ↗ when we can um so that's my summary

1:05:24 ↗ of our discussion uh if any council

1:05:27 ↗ member

1:05:29 ↗ any council member has any um thing that

1:05:31 ↗ you think i'm misrepresented

1:05:33 ↗ or left out please let me know

1:05:49 ↗ okay i'm not seeing anything um city

1:05:52 ↗ administrator

1:05:53 ↗ bob quits uh

1:05:56 ↗ well we have a question from

1:05:57 ↗ councilmember holland then i'll check in

1:05:59 ↗ with city administrator bob squits if

1:06:00 ↗ you

1:06:00 ↗ if you have what you need from the

1:06:02 ↗ council um

1:06:04 ↗ okay councilmember hall question um

1:06:07 ↗ uh thanks this councilmember hall i

1:06:09 ↗ think i was gonna ask

1:06:11 ↗ a similar question to you um because i

1:06:13 ↗ think this was supposed to come back

1:06:15 ↗ next monday on the 15th um and it's we

1:06:18 ↗ seem to have a lot

1:06:20 ↗ of things that we would like questions

1:06:22 ↗ on so i was still wondering

1:06:23 ↗ i was just wondering if that's even

1:06:24 ↗ possible to come back in a week so

1:06:26 ↗ i'll defer to you council president hunt

1:06:28 ↗ to start that conversation off

1:06:33 ↗ okay thank you yeah we we will have some

1:06:36 ↗ scheduling

1:06:36 ↗ discussions i'm sure at um at leadership

1:06:39 ↗ uh city administrator bob quits did

1:06:42 ↗ um you have a question as well

1:06:48 ↗ you're on mute

1:06:52 ↗ can you hear me now thank you sorry

1:06:54 ↗ about that uh

1:06:56 ↗ i i have some further questions council

1:06:58 ↗ president for the group if i could take

1:06:59 ↗ a couple minutes and

1:07:00 ↗ and go through some of those um as far

1:07:04 ↗ as the pool

1:07:05 ↗ of potential applicants that was was

1:07:07 ↗ requested

1:07:08 ↗ is it the council's desire to see a list

1:07:11 ↗ so we would take the list of

1:07:13 ↗ the nonprofits that are registered here

1:07:15 ↗ apply it to the criteria that we have

1:07:17 ↗ currently proposed

1:07:18 ↗ basically strike out those that we felt

1:07:21 ↗ were

1:07:22 ↗ ineligible and then come back with a

1:07:23 ↗ list or are we just looking at an

1:07:25 ↗ aggregate number

1:07:26 ↗ so it was 300 and now it's 150.

1:07:29 ↗ um i'm just concerned what will be

1:07:32 ↗ success there

1:07:37 ↗ um councilmember martz would like to

1:07:40 ↗ answer this question yes uh i would like

1:07:43 ↗ a list i suspect

1:07:44 ↗ that when you apply all those criteria

1:07:47 ↗ the resulting number of

1:07:48 ↗ uh uh 501 c3s will be

1:07:52 ↗ a fairly small number so i i i success

1:07:56 ↗ for me would just

1:07:56 ↗ would be a list of those organizations

1:07:59 ↗ that need criteria

1:08:00 ↗ thank you all right so council president

1:08:03 ↗ um i'm seeing some nods and so perhaps

1:08:06 ↗ that's just the best way

1:08:07 ↗ um if anyone objects that's what we'll

1:08:09 ↗ do then um

1:08:11 ↗ the next question is um regarding how to

1:08:14 ↗ solicit need

1:08:15 ↗ um it would be very easy uh for the

1:08:18 ↗ staff to put in the newsletter if you're

1:08:20 ↗ a 501c3 send an email

1:08:23 ↗ to such an address i'm always hesitant

1:08:26 ↗ to do something like that

1:08:29 ↗ is that the kind of feedback you're

1:08:30 ↗ looking for

1:08:32 ↗ we could certainly have it sent not to

1:08:34 ↗ the city council address but

1:08:37 ↗ are you looking for us to do some survey

1:08:39 ↗ work what's

1:08:40 ↗ how would you like us to try to assess

1:08:42 ↗ the need

1:08:47 ↗ okay council member hall

1:08:52 ↗ uh thanks this is councilmember hall um

1:08:55 ↗ uh two things um come to mind i guess

1:08:59 ↗ um one thing that could be done is to

1:09:01 ↗ try and contact

1:09:02 ↗ um like the state nonprofit

1:09:06 ↗ association that has close contacts with

1:09:09 ↗ um nonprofits all across the state i i

1:09:12 ↗ don't know how many organizations like

1:09:14 ↗ those exist but it might be a good idea

1:09:15 ↗ to

1:09:16 ↗ try and get uh an idea on the need from

1:09:19 ↗ organizations like that

1:09:21 ↗ i also just wanted to say um with regard

1:09:24 ↗ to the last question

1:09:25 ↗ um i personally just because i didn't

1:09:28 ↗ hear anyone say anything i personally

1:09:30 ↗ don't need a list

1:09:31 ↗ but if the majority of council would

1:09:33 ↗ like a list i understand

1:09:35 ↗ um so if anyone else had any other

1:09:37 ↗ thoughts on that one

1:09:38 ↗ now would probably be a good time to

1:09:40 ↗ share that thanks

1:09:45 ↗ okay um okay we have a few other people

1:09:48 ↗ that would like to comment so

1:09:50 ↗ councilman uh council deputy president

1:09:52 ↗ right

1:09:53 ↗ thank you council president hunt this

1:09:55 ↗ chris wright um as it for need i think

1:09:58 ↗ we

1:09:58 ↗ uh we field the grant applications we

1:10:01 ↗ look at

1:10:02 ↗ the number of grants we receive

1:10:05 ↗ and we use that in a similar fashion as

1:10:08 ↗ we use the business grants to establish

1:10:10 ↗ the need

1:10:11 ↗ so i think that that that is going to be

1:10:13 ↗ a self-defining thing in my

1:10:15 ↗ in my mind if we take we move forward

1:10:17 ↗ i'm i um

1:10:18 ↗ i'm either just a circle back question

1:10:20 ↗ number one i am

1:10:21 ↗ okay either way either with a list or an

1:10:23 ↗ aggregate number

1:10:24 ↗ a list might be more informative though

1:10:27 ↗ but in terms of assessing the need i

1:10:28 ↗ i say let's let's go forward with a

1:10:31 ↗ grant program

1:10:32 ↗ let's evaluate the responses and based

1:10:35 ↗ on that we will have some

1:10:37 ↗ good insights into

1:10:41 ↗ what we need to do next

1:10:46 ↗ okay thanks um councilmember d michelle

1:10:50 ↗ um thank you i i think that possibly the

1:10:54 ↗ my comment was covered i will just say

1:10:56 ↗ that there is a

1:10:58 ↗ alliance of eastside agencies uh which

1:11:02 ↗ represents uh all of the nonprofits on

1:11:05 ↗ the east side a whole range of them

1:11:07 ↗ um the director one of the presidents of

1:11:10 ↗ that group is

1:11:11 ↗ associated with eastside baby corner

1:11:13 ↗ which is right here in issaquah

1:11:15 ↗ and i i think that she would probably be

1:11:17 ↗ able to talk to some of the need that

1:11:19 ↗ they've

1:11:19 ↗ seen so i would recommend recommend

1:11:23 ↗ getting in touch with them um and then i

1:11:27 ↗ personally i was thinking i would reach

1:11:28 ↗ out to some of the nonprofits i know and

1:11:30 ↗ just ask if they wanted to come and

1:11:32 ↗ comment at the um at the next meeting

1:11:37 ↗ i think i kind of agree with councilman

1:11:39 ↗ deputy council president ray's comment

1:11:41 ↗ in that

1:11:42 ↗ we've changed the criteria to the point

1:11:45 ↗ where um

1:11:47 ↗ we've got quite an open field and maybe

1:11:49 ↗ the need will show up in those people

1:11:52 ↗ who come and apply and so i i kind of

1:11:54 ↗ think that that's the process we're

1:11:56 ↗ looking at now since we've widened the

1:11:58 ↗ criteria to

1:11:59 ↗ or organizations who may not may not

1:12:03 ↗ have their address in issaquah

1:12:05 ↗ so that pretty much opens the field to a

1:12:07 ↗ lot of other possibilities

1:12:10 ↗ so those are just two suggestions i have

1:12:12 ↗ and i

1:12:13 ↗ uh having gone through that process

1:12:15 ↗ myself that's a lot of work

1:12:17 ↗ to go through that long list and kind of

1:12:19 ↗ decide who belongs who doesn't belong

1:12:21 ↗ based on a set of criteria that was uh

1:12:24 ↗ several hours of work

1:12:25 ↗ and i don't know that we want to have

1:12:28 ↗ staff put their time into that

1:12:30 ↗ when when the it may turn out to be very

1:12:33 ↗ different when we actually see the

1:12:34 ↗ applications

1:12:36 ↗ thank you okay thank you

1:12:39 ↗ councilmember walsh thanks this is

1:12:41 ↗ councilmember walsh

1:12:42 ↗ um in assessing need i think i would

1:12:45 ↗ feel comfortable

1:12:46 ↗ if the administration was to talk to

1:12:49 ↗ three or four of the

1:12:51 ↗ 501c3s in the area that we know and

1:12:53 ↗ understand what their funding situation

1:12:56 ↗ is

1:12:57 ↗ how much their revenue has decreased

1:12:59 ↗ over this period if they're willing to

1:13:01 ↗ share that type of information to give

1:13:04 ↗ us a

1:13:04 ↗ sense of need we've obviously seen the

1:13:07 ↗ demand for services decrease but what

1:13:09 ↗ we're trying to understand

1:13:10 ↗ is the revenue

1:13:13 ↗ side whether there has been a

1:13:16 ↗ significant decrease on that side

1:13:18 ↗ so getting a small seg subsegment of

1:13:23 ↗ information from them would satisfy that

1:13:25 ↗ for me thanks

1:13:31 ↗ um okay we have a comment from

1:13:33 ↗ councilmember remarks

1:13:34 ↗ oh sorry sorry councilmember government

1:13:36 ↗ councilman that's okay never mind thanks

1:13:40 ↗ uh all right then uh thank you council

1:13:43 ↗ president um

1:13:44 ↗ so i think both council member d

1:13:47 ↗ michelle's idea of the

1:13:49 ↗ person who heads up the local forgive me

1:13:52 ↗ council of nonprofits or

1:13:53 ↗ i don't remember the exact title uh and

1:13:57 ↗ as well as

1:13:58 ↗ uh the administration's soliciting some

1:14:01 ↗ uh possible feedback from uh some c3s in

1:14:04 ↗ the area

1:14:05 ↗ and if they don't choose to provide

1:14:06 ↗ feedback then they're providing a

1:14:08 ↗ certain kind of feedback uh and the

1:14:10 ↗ other thing is this whole

1:14:12 ↗ this question about getting a list you

1:14:14 ↗ know i'm just one of seven but

1:14:16 ↗ i i don't know much about the c3 economy

1:14:19 ↗ uh i don't know who meets the criteria

1:14:22 ↗ and who doesn't so i would very much

1:14:24 ↗ i realize it's some work uh but i i it's

1:14:26 ↗ really important to me to see a list of

1:14:28 ↗ who would meet the criteria

1:14:30 ↗ to understand uh

1:14:34 ↗ to understand that where our monies

1:14:36 ↗ would be potentially going i just don't

1:14:38 ↗ you know all i i am but a humble rocket

1:14:42 ↗ scientist

1:14:42 ↗ and i only understand rocket science and

1:14:45 ↗ uh not

1:14:46 ↗ uh the nonprofit economy so thanks

1:14:51 ↗ thank you um so i i'll offer my

1:14:54 ↗ thoughts on this as well this is council

1:14:56 ↗ president hunt um

1:14:58 ↗ on the question of how to establish need

1:15:00 ↗ i was thinking

1:15:02 ↗ more um along the lines of asking

1:15:05 ↗ maybe because this is based on um

1:15:08 ↗ programs that were developed

1:15:10 ↗ in neighboring cities i was thinking

1:15:11 ↗ maybe ask neighboring cities what kind

1:15:13 ↗ of demands they've had for

1:15:15 ↗ their programs and we could get a sense

1:15:17 ↗ that way since

1:15:18 ↗ um i am also thinking of

1:15:21 ↗ the application process itself is giving

1:15:24 ↗ us valuable information those

1:15:25 ↗ neighboring cities will have had that

1:15:27 ↗ application process already implemented

1:15:29 ↗ so that might be

1:15:30 ↗ one way to um get that kind of

1:15:32 ↗ information that i think would be

1:15:33 ↗ helpful

1:15:34 ↗ um if that would be shareable uh and

1:15:38 ↗ then

1:15:39 ↗ um as far as the the list of

1:15:42 ↗ organizations that meet the criteria i

1:15:45 ↗ think that if you go through the process

1:15:47 ↗ of

1:15:48 ↗ figuring out how many meet the criteria

1:15:50 ↗ you would in

1:15:51 ↗ in that process be creating the list and

1:15:54 ↗ the list would provide us with more

1:15:55 ↗ information so

1:15:56 ↗ i would um i would lean towards

1:15:59 ↗ that and having that information for

1:16:01 ↗ council

1:16:04 ↗ so president i have a couple other

1:16:06 ↗ questions um

1:16:08 ↗ and i appreciate the the feedback i

1:16:10 ↗ think that there

1:16:11 ↗ there is a little chicken and egg issue

1:16:13 ↗ with the organizations and what the

1:16:15 ↗ criteria is

1:16:17 ↗ uh i think what we'll do is our best to

1:16:20 ↗ identify the organizations that we

1:16:22 ↗ think are out there um you know perhaps

1:16:25 ↗ just cross out the ones that we think

1:16:27 ↗ aren't so if the council sees the list

1:16:28 ↗ and has a change of thought on

1:16:30 ↗ on the criteria then you have some

1:16:32 ↗ flexibility to do that

1:16:34 ↗ so we'll we'll do our best um to

1:16:37 ↗ try to provide all that information uh

1:16:40 ↗ the next question

1:16:41 ↗ uh i have is about this greater iscock

1:16:43 ↗ community

1:16:44 ↗ uh i appreciate where councilmember d

1:16:46 ↗ michelle is going

1:16:48 ↗ with this i think one concern that i

1:16:50 ↗ have is

1:16:51 ↗ as i've mentioned we've looked at other

1:16:53 ↗ communities who have put together

1:16:54 ↗ programs like this

1:16:55 ↗ but i was not able to really define any

1:16:57 ↗ neighboring communities these are

1:16:58 ↗ the communities i found were communities

1:17:00 ↗ in other parts of the of the

1:17:02 ↗ country and so one of the challenges

1:17:04 ↗ that we'll have

1:17:05 ↗ with neighboring communities is that we

1:17:07 ↗ are also then

1:17:08 ↗ potentially supporting uh residents from

1:17:11 ↗ surrounding areas that don't have

1:17:12 ↗ programs and cities some amish

1:17:14 ↗ to my knowledge doesn't have a program

1:17:17 ↗ for 501 c trees nor does king county

1:17:19 ↗ so i just want to we can leave it

1:17:23 ↗ issaquah area with the recognition that

1:17:26 ↗ perhaps there are

1:17:27 ↗ then residents that will benefit from

1:17:28 ↗ other communities who've decided not to

1:17:30 ↗ put resources

1:17:31 ↗ towards supporting 501 c3 so i if that

1:17:34 ↗ makes sense

1:17:35 ↗ i guess i just wanted to raise that as a

1:17:37 ↗ potential issue

1:17:38 ↗ because again as far as i know king

1:17:40 ↗ county has not done this city of samanas

1:17:42 ↗ has not done this renton bellevue

1:17:44 ↗ um you know some some other communities

1:17:47 ↗ on the east side

1:17:48 ↗ have partnered with community

1:17:49 ↗ foundations i think and have

1:17:51 ↗ done this but no government that i'm

1:17:53 ↗ aware of

1:17:54 ↗ uh in the area has has taken the lead on

1:17:57 ↗ this so i just wanted

1:17:58 ↗ again seeing nods council president i

1:18:00 ↗ don't know if anyone has any comments

1:18:01 ↗ specific to that

1:18:03 ↗ uh but just wanted to raise that as a

1:18:04 ↗ question and as a potential issue

1:18:08 ↗ um yes we do have a comment uh council

1:18:10 ↗ deputy president ray would like to make

1:18:11 ↗ a comment

1:18:12 ↗ thank you council president this is

1:18:14 ↗ chris wray i'm using an analog that

1:18:17 ↗ that goes back to the business grants

1:18:19 ↗ and you know we were supporting

1:18:21 ↗ businesses because they were businesses

1:18:22 ↗ in this

1:18:23 ↗ class not to where their customers came

1:18:25 ↗ from

1:18:26 ↗ and since this is an operational grant

1:18:28 ↗ program i think we support

1:18:30 ↗ not-for-profits that are based in in

1:18:33 ↗ issaquah

1:18:34 ↗ who employees work in issaquah and then

1:18:39 ↗ they provide some level of service

1:18:40 ↗ within the squad but because this is an

1:18:42 ↗ operational focus grant not a services

1:18:45 ↗ focus grant i think it's it's it's less

1:18:48 ↗ important because this isn't money

1:18:49 ↗ that's going

1:18:50 ↗ to provide services to people who don't

1:18:53 ↗ live in town this is going this is money

1:18:55 ↗ going to support

1:18:56 ↗ not-for-profits who are in town and

1:18:59 ↗ may support uh provide services

1:19:02 ↗ um either locally or uh regionally so

1:19:05 ↗ um i kind of kind of looking through it

1:19:08 ↗ at it with a different lens

1:19:09 ↗ than um you know kind of some of our

1:19:12 ↗ historic

1:19:12 ↗ uh support grants so for rental

1:19:14 ↗ assistance you know very very strongly

1:19:16 ↗ think that that needed to be focused on

1:19:18 ↗ people who live in town

1:19:19 ↗ this one i think it's a little bit

1:19:21 ↗ different model so that's that's my take

1:19:23 ↗ and why i think this is okay to

1:19:25 ↗ to think of this a little more uh

1:19:26 ↗ broadly thank you

1:19:31 ↗ okay um thank you and councilmember

1:19:34 ↗ walsh

1:19:35 ↗ thank you councilman ross here excuse me

1:19:38 ↗ um yeah i want to plus one what deputy

1:19:40 ↗ council president ray

1:19:41 ↗ just said uh i think i started to hear

1:19:44 ↗ some stuff from city administrator rob

1:19:46 ↗ quitz saying

1:19:47 ↗ we're broadening this out and

1:19:49 ↗ potentially you could get king county or

1:19:51 ↗ renton

1:19:52 ↗ um non-profits uh

1:19:55 ↗ applying for this that wasn't my

1:19:58 ↗ intention

1:19:59 ↗ um so maybe i need some clarification

1:20:02 ↗ there but

1:20:03 ↗ what what i saw this as was

1:20:07 ↗ issaquah non-profits

1:20:10 ↗ whether they are serving just issaquah

1:20:14 ↗ residents or

1:20:15 ↗ maybe might have some in the escrow

1:20:17 ↗ school district that cross the border

1:20:18 ↗ i'm comfortable with that i'm not

1:20:21 ↗ comfortable with the idea of

1:20:23 ↗ a king county renton

1:20:27 ↗ non-profit being in that

1:20:30 ↗ group great thank you for the

1:20:33 ↗ clarification

1:20:36 ↗ counsel press a couple of other

1:20:37 ↗ questions if i may

1:20:39 ↗ please go ahead uh the 501 c4

1:20:43 ↗ and c6s so it seems as if there's

1:20:47 ↗ interest among the council to include

1:20:49 ↗ them i'm unclear

1:20:50 ↗ if we're including them in the hundred

1:20:52 ↗ thousand dollars if you would like an

1:20:54 ↗ additional increment of money

1:20:56 ↗ allocated or should we come back with a

1:21:00 ↗ proposal

1:21:01 ↗ with funding just for specific named

1:21:03 ↗ organizations

1:21:04 ↗ that are c4s or c6s if i could get some

1:21:08 ↗ additional

1:21:08 ↗ feedback on that that'd be appreciated

1:21:14 ↗ thanks um this is council president hunt

1:21:17 ↗ i i think that

1:21:18 ↗ from the summary of the previous

1:21:20 ↗ conversation i got the

1:21:22 ↗ impression that the consensus was that

1:21:24 ↗ we wanted to

1:21:25 ↗ support c4s and c6s in a

1:21:28 ↗ different way than this

1:21:32 ↗ this program so that was what i

1:21:36 ↗ noted um from our previous conversation

1:21:38 ↗ i do see that several other people want

1:21:40 ↗ to

1:21:40 ↗ comment on this so councilmember d

1:21:42 ↗ michelle

1:21:45 ↗ yes councilmember d michelle that's

1:21:47 ↗ exactly what i was

1:21:48 ↗ thinking as well and when i said that

1:21:51 ↗ i'd like to see the

1:21:52 ↗ pool expanded that was under the

1:21:55 ↗ circumstances

1:21:56 ↗ of setting up a separate

1:21:59 ↗ i think it should be a separate program

1:22:01 ↗ for the

1:22:02 ↗ 501c4s and 501c6s and then

1:22:05 ↗ we would allocate additional funds

1:22:07 ↗ beyond 100

1:22:08 ↗ 000 to that program so um

1:22:12 ↗ and i and i think it'd be great if if

1:22:15 ↗ there's time if we could bring both of

1:22:18 ↗ those back at the same time

1:22:19 ↗ if we could see those um

1:22:22 ↗ a 501 c 3 grant program and a

1:22:26 ↗ 501 c 4 and 6 program

1:22:29 ↗ side by side um 100 000

1:22:32 ↗ for the 501c3 and some amount more

1:22:35 ↗ for the c fours and sixes

1:22:39 ↗ that's a mouthful so does that make

1:22:43 ↗ sense

1:22:43 ↗ uh city administrator bob kuitz

1:22:47 ↗ it certainly does and if that's the will

1:22:49 ↗ of the council to see two programs side

1:22:51 ↗ by side at the same time

1:22:53 ↗ um and you know in discussions with

1:22:55 ↗ mayor paulie will identify

1:22:57 ↗ uh what makes sense um as far as dollar

1:23:00 ↗ amounts so

1:23:01 ↗ uh and the hope is still this is coming

1:23:04 ↗ back

1:23:04 ↗ next week

1:23:08 ↗ uh this is council president hunt i was

1:23:10 ↗ going to

1:23:11 ↗ um ask council because uh that is a

1:23:14 ↗ pretty quick turnaround

1:23:15 ↗ um i imagine so uh

1:23:18 ↗ would for scheduling purposes would

1:23:21 ↗ counsel be

1:23:22 ↗ then amenable to um pushing this out to

1:23:26 ↗ the subsequent regular meeting or

1:23:30 ↗ not okay so we i'm seeing some nods um

1:23:33 ↗ so i think that

1:23:34 ↗ council is generally okay with having

1:23:37 ↗ the

1:23:38 ↗ uh combined both the

1:23:41 ↗ program with all of the considerations

1:23:43 ↗ that we talked about

1:23:44 ↗ um this evening for the c3s and then

1:23:49 ↗ we would also like to see at the same

1:23:50 ↗ time a program addressing

1:23:52 ↗ um c4s and c6s and potentially that

1:23:55 ↗ would be at a

1:23:56 ↗ later um the next regular meeting after

1:23:59 ↗ the 15th if

1:24:00 ↗ there needs to be that additional time

1:24:02 ↗ all right

1:24:03 ↗ thank you president members of the

1:24:04 ↗ council so i think we'll take you up on

1:24:06 ↗ that offer

1:24:07 ↗ uh april 5th would be the next regular

1:24:10 ↗ meeting after that

1:24:11 ↗ um i think i've answered all the

1:24:13 ↗ questions i have

1:24:14 ↗ i appreciate the council spending the

1:24:16 ↗ time this evening uh to go through that

1:24:18 ↗ uh we'll come back with a revised

1:24:20 ↗ program and then

1:24:21 ↗ we'll consult with mayor paulie on her

1:24:23 ↗ wishes uh

1:24:24 ↗ for a proposal for the cfos and c6s

1:24:27 ↗ thank you

1:24:28 ↗ okay um

1:24:32 ↗ okay uh did i miss any

1:24:35 ↗ councilmember hall yes go ahead yeah

1:24:37 ↗ thanks i just snuck in at the end this

1:24:39 ↗ is councilmember hall um

1:24:40 ↗ i just wanted to add one more uh

1:24:43 ↗ piece of direction for c4s and sixes i i

1:24:46 ↗ don't think it's in

1:24:47 ↗ the community's best interest to allow

1:24:50 ↗ all

1:24:51 ↗ of the c4s and sixes in town to be

1:24:53 ↗ eligible

1:24:54 ↗ um for grant funding so i'm i really

1:24:57 ↗ have no idea what the next step

1:24:59 ↗ looks like in that if we just call out

1:25:00 ↗ names or if we say

1:25:04 ↗ c4s and c6's that engaged in

1:25:08 ↗ economic development economic supports

1:25:11 ↗ and community support during the covet

1:25:12 ↗ 19 pandemic i

1:25:14 ↗ i don't know i it's so i guess this is a

1:25:16 ↗ question for

1:25:17 ↗ the city administrator in terms of what

1:25:19 ↗ do you need from us

1:25:21 ↗ right now to um have what you need

1:25:25 ↗ for you and the mayor to come up with

1:25:28 ↗ a support structure for c4s and sixes

1:25:33 ↗ and if i make council president members

1:25:35 ↗ of the council

1:25:36 ↗ you know we we have heard from a handful

1:25:39 ↗ of of

1:25:40 ↗ c4s and c6s two or three

1:25:43 ↗ that provide economic development uh

1:25:45 ↗ work

1:25:46 ↗ um you know i think we're going to need

1:25:48 ↗ to go i think it would just be easier to

1:25:50 ↗ address that

1:25:51 ↗ head-on but rather than come up with a

1:25:53 ↗ program which we all know would only

1:25:55 ↗ be eligible for a handful of

1:25:57 ↗ organizations

1:25:58 ↗ um you know i think one of the things we

1:26:00 ↗ need to look at

1:26:01 ↗ is you know other support that those

1:26:03 ↗ groups receive

1:26:05 ↗ you know trying to do this as apples to

1:26:07 ↗ apples as we can

1:26:09 ↗ certainly it's difficult and i think

1:26:10 ↗ it's borne out by

1:26:12 ↗ my inability of finding any other

1:26:14 ↗ program that

1:26:15 ↗ that focused on fours and sixes because

1:26:17 ↗ i think that there are different issues

1:26:19 ↗ with that

1:26:20 ↗ you know some c4s and c6 has already

1:26:22 ↗ received

1:26:23 ↗ uh funds from municipal governments uh

1:26:25 ↗ for their operation

1:26:27 ↗ uh which uh c3s generally don't

1:26:30 ↗ um and so you know i i'll help to talk

1:26:33 ↗ further with the mayor

1:26:35 ↗ my sense would be just to say here are

1:26:37 ↗ the organizations

1:26:38 ↗ that i think are qualified of what

1:26:40 ↗ you're saying and then it's just coming

1:26:41 ↗ up with a dollar amount

1:26:42 ↗ and deciding is that dollar amount

1:26:45 ↗ reasonable

1:26:46 ↗ given other support that the city

1:26:48 ↗ already provides perhaps some of these

1:26:49 ↗ organizations

1:26:50 ↗ and maybe it would make sense to you

1:26:52 ↗ know delineate

1:26:53 ↗ uh the support that these other

1:26:55 ↗ organizations get

1:26:56 ↗ just to provide a level um field of

1:27:00 ↗ consideration for the council

1:27:01 ↗ as it deliberates so we'll do our best

1:27:03 ↗ to do that on

1:27:05 ↗ the fifth of april and we'll let the

1:27:07 ↗ council uh

1:27:08 ↗ you know decide what they think is

1:27:09 ↗ appropriate

1:27:15 ↗ okay um councilmember walsh thank you

1:27:18 ↗ this councilmember bulsh

1:27:19 ↗ um i just wanted to sneak in here real

1:27:22 ↗ quick at the end and thank the

1:27:23 ↗ administration for

1:27:24 ↗ bringing this to us with

1:27:27 ↗ a question and a conversation rather

1:27:30 ↗ than

1:27:30 ↗ bringing an a b um and having us pick it

1:27:33 ↗ apart

1:27:34 ↗ i think this is the process that we

1:27:36 ↗ would like to see

1:27:38 ↗ going forward or at least i would like

1:27:39 ↗ to see going forward

1:27:41 ↗ um because it gives us an opportunity to

1:27:43 ↗ really ask the questions and have the

1:27:45 ↗ conversation

1:27:47 ↗ at this point so i wanted to thank you

1:27:48 ↗ for that

1:27:53 ↗ okay great um i am not seeing any other

1:27:58 ↗ uh council members wishing to comment

1:28:01 ↗ i'll just wait in case there's any

1:28:03 ↗ late-breaking comments

1:28:07 ↗ okay i'm not seeing any um okay so city

1:28:10 ↗ administrator bob quits

1:28:11 ↗ um do you have what you need now from

1:28:13 ↗ council

1:28:14 ↗ yes thank you very much okay um

1:28:19 ↗ all right so then um i

1:28:22 ↗ we do not have a go to the order notice

1:28:25 ↗ because this is a special meeting

1:28:27 ↗ um so i will um

1:28:30 ↗ at this time there being no further

1:28:32 ↗ business i will adjourn the meeting but

1:28:34 ↗ please stay

1:28:34 ↗ on because we will have a special uh

1:28:37 ↗ special

1:28:38 ↗ executive session uh executive session

1:28:40 ↗ rather so please stay

1:28:42 ↗ on the line council members thanks thank

1:28:44 ↗ you council president

Attendance

Council / Members (7)

Barbara de Michele

Stacy Goodman

Zach Hall

Victoria Hunt

Tola Marts

Chris Reh

Lindsey Walsh