City Council Special Meeting · Monday, October 5, 2020 · City Council Digest

2. CLOSED SESSION

The purpose of this special meeting is to allow the City Council to recess into Executive Session to discuss pending/potential litigation per RCW take approximately 30 minutes. Please note, Executive Sessions are closed to the public. Action, if needed, would occur during the open session of a Council meeting

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0:04 ↗ welcome everyone I'm calling the October

0:06 ↗ Fest city council meeting to order and

0:09 ↗ before we move on to tonight's agenda

0:11 ↗ items I'd like to acknowledge our remote

0:13 ↗ meeting format on March 6th I issued an

0:17 ↗ emergency Proclamation declaring a civil

0:19 ↗ emergency in the city due to the

0:21 ↗ covid-19 outbreak on March 24th the

0:24 ↗ governor issued Proclamation

0:26 ↗ 20-28 prohibiting meetings that fall

0:28 ↗ under the open public meeting meting act

0:30 ↗ such as our City Council meetings from

0:33 ↗ being conducted in person the

0:35 ↗ prohibition has been extended through

0:37 ↗ November 9th tonight's meeting will be

0:39 ↗ held entirely remotely the meeting will

0:41 ↗ be recorded streamed live and available

0:44 ↗ for later viewing on the city's YouTube

0:46 ↗ channel a call-in number was provided on

0:48 ↗ the meeting agenda for members of the

0:50 ↗ public who wish to call in by phone to

0:53 ↗ listen live to the meeting or to make

0:55 ↗ comments for those members of the public

0:57 ↗ on the call welcome for those of of you

1:00 ↗ who have submitted the online form to

1:02 ↗ make comments your name will be called

1:03 ↗ under the audience comment portion of

1:05 ↗ the meeting if there's anyone that is on

1:08 ↗ the call who did not sign up but would

1:10 ↗ like to make comments tonight please

1:12 ↗ press star three on your phone and we

1:15 ↗ will get you added to the speaker list

1:18 ↗ so at this point I'd like to take a

1:19 ↗ moment and do a roll call of our council

1:21 ↗ members and attendance please stay here

1:23 ↗ when I call your name council member D

1:26 ↗ Michelle here thank you council member

1:29 ↗ good

1:30 ↗ here thank you council member Hall here

1:34 ↗ thanks council president hunt here thank

1:37 ↗ you council member Marts here thank you

1:40 ↗ Deputy council president Ray here and

1:44 ↗ council member Walsh here great that's

1:47 ↗ all seven council members this evening

1:49 ↗ we also have City staff participating in

1:52 ↗ tonight's meeting including our city

1:53 ↗ administrator Wy Bob Kitz our Deputy

1:56 ↗ City administrator Andrea Snider parks

1:59 ↗ and Community Services director Jeff

2:01 ↗ wling our human services and social

2:04 ↗ sustainability coordinator Monica Nilla

2:07 ↗ our sustainability coordinator Megan

2:09 ↗ Curtis Murphy our City attorney Jim

2:12 ↗ Haney and our Deputy city clerk Tisha

2:14 ↗ gizer there may also be some other City

2:17 ↗ staff and attendance I know that Leo

2:19 ↗ Flur the director of the King County

2:21 ↗ Department of community and Human

2:22 ↗ Services is also joining us this evening

2:26 ↗ so I'm going to re reiterate a few of

2:28 ↗ our meeting guidelines

2:30 ↗ please speak clearly and pause

2:33 ↗ frequently state your name each time

2:36 ↗ before speaking please mute your

2:38 ↗ microphone when you're not speaking and

2:41 ↗ for members of the public if you are

2:43 ↗ also streaming the live video feed

2:45 ↗ please turn off the sound as there is a

2:47 ↗ delay so the next item on our agenda

2:50 ↗ this evening is the Pledge of Allegiance

2:52 ↗ and if I could get everyone to keep your

2:54 ↗ microphone muted I do welcome you to

2:57 ↗ join me in the Pledge of Allegiance

3:00 ↗ I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

3:03 ↗ United States of America and to the

3:05 ↗ Republic for which it stands one nation

3:08 ↗ under God indivisible with liberty and

3:12 ↗ justice for

3:14 ↗ all thank you the next item on the

3:16 ↗ agenda this evening is audience comments

3:19 ↗ and so city clerk has anyone signed up

3:21 ↗ to speak or indicated a desire to speak

3:23 ↗ this

3:24 ↗ evening yes we have four callers tonight

3:28 ↗ thank you so for those making comments

3:30 ↗ please make sure to direct your comments

3:32 ↗ to the whole Council and not

3:34 ↗ individuals and while this is not a

3:36 ↗ question and answer session we will

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3:40 ↗ you are recognized please unmute your

3:43 ↗ microphone state your name address and

3:47 ↗ relationship to the city speak clearly

3:50 ↗ and pause frequently you have up to five

3:53 ↗ minutes for comments and when you're

3:55 ↗ done please remute remute your

3:58 ↗ microphone if you do not respond after

4:00 ↗ your name or phone number is called or

4:02 ↗ if your connection is lost unexpectedly

4:05 ↗ the meeting will need to proceed and you

4:07 ↗ are encouraged to rejoin the meeting if

4:08 ↗ able and again for those of you who have

4:11 ↗ joined us tonight and would like to

4:12 ↗ speak but did not sign up in advance

4:15 ↗ please press star three on your phone we

4:17 ↗ will make the last we will call the last

4:19 ↗ two digits of your phone number when it

4:21 ↗ is your turn to make comments personal

4:23 ↗ attacks subscene language derogatory

4:26 ↗ remarks and disruptive behavior are not

4:28 ↗ permitted and if a speaker is out of

4:29 ↗ order I will ask them to stop and mute

4:32 ↗ their microphone if someone does not

4:34 ↗ comply I may have to direct staff to

4:36 ↗ mute their microphone and if A

4:38 ↗ disruption of the meeting occurs and

4:40 ↗ Order cannot be restored I may direct

4:42 ↗ staff to remove you from the call

4:44 ↗ citizen comments written in verbal are

4:46 ↗ an important aspect of the public

4:48 ↗ process and the city takes these

4:50 ↗ comments seriously we thank each of you

4:52 ↗ for taking the time to address this this

4:54 ↗ evening so city clerk can you please

4:57 ↗ identify the first person who signed up

4:59 ↗ to speak

5:00 ↗ yes Elizabeth maen Elizabeth I've

5:02 ↗ unmuted

5:04 ↗ you hello my name is Elizabeth mopan a

5:08 ↗ resident of

5:09 ↗ isqua um I live at 100 Big Bear

5:13 ↗ place I'd like to address AB

5:19 ↗ 8047

5:22 ↗ ab813 and ab

5:27 ↗ 8044 um these are the affordable housing

5:31 ↗ sales and use tax housing stability and

5:34 ↗ the Outreach and Case Management Service

5:37 ↗ PRI pilot

5:39 ↗ project um one of my friends at church

5:42 ↗ said in a discussion on race and Equity

5:45 ↗ that she lives in a

5:46 ↗ bubble I believe that many members of

5:49 ↗ the congregation felt that way if we

5:52 ↗ live surrounded by people who look like

5:55 ↗ us and are not aware of knowing anyone

5:58 ↗ in poverty we often know little of the

6:02 ↗ life outside this bubble and are likely

6:05 ↗ to make assumptions that are off the

6:06 ↗ mark concerning those outside our

6:09 ↗ intimate

6:10 ↗ Community I've spoken to the council

6:13 ↗ many times about the need for housing

6:16 ↗ that our residents and would be

6:18 ↗ residents who work in issaqua can

6:20 ↗ afford please do what you can to

6:23 ↗ increase the funds available to build

6:27 ↗ and to preserve such housing

6:30 ↗ tonight I'd like to address the proposal

6:33 ↗ to provide protections for renters and a

6:36 ↗ mediation process for landlords and

6:39 ↗ tenants that they can use when the

6:41 ↗ tenant is unable to pay their full

6:45 ↗ rent you already know that there are

6:48 ↗ many people who are not currently able

6:51 ↗ to pay their rent and that this may

6:53 ↗ continue for some time the mediation

6:57 ↗ process will save landlords from the

7:00 ↗ expense of going immediately to an

7:02 ↗ eviction

7:04 ↗ process but it will also allow them to

7:07 ↗ get pass their assumptions about why

7:09 ↗ rent is not being

7:12 ↗ paid they will be able to hear the real

7:16 ↗ life struggles of their

7:18 ↗ tenants tenants especially those who've

7:22 ↗ never been homeowners may not be aware

7:25 ↗ of all the financial responsibilities

7:27 ↗ that their landlord has taken on

7:31 ↗ with mistaken assumptions Stripped Away

7:34 ↗ in a mediation process people have the

7:38 ↗ opportunity to work

7:40 ↗ collaboratively and to find Creative

7:43 ↗ Solutions that will work better for all

7:46 ↗ concerned than would an eviction

7:50 ↗ process I believe that this process is

7:53 ↗ actually a community building process

7:57 ↗ that's much needed in our world of great

7:59 ↗ economic disparity and cultural

8:03 ↗ diversity as for the Outreach to those

8:06 ↗ Among Us who have lost their housing the

8:09 ↗ move to provide a local Outreach worker

8:12 ↗ is one I would

8:14 ↗ applaud the city has relied far too much

8:17 ↗ on our regional Outreach workers who

8:20 ↗ rarely visit issaqua and are not very

8:22 ↗ familiar with the local

8:25 ↗ community with our library and most

8:28 ↗ other community space is

8:30 ↗ closed I'm sure that it has been

8:32 ↗ challenging for them to find the people

8:34 ↗ who most need their

8:36 ↗ assistance and then when they do find

8:39 ↗ them they can only refer them out refer

8:43 ↗ them to outof town shelters and day

8:46 ↗ centers so I'm encouraged that we will

8:48 ↗ be hiring someone to focus on issaqua if

8:52 ↗ that measure is

8:54 ↗ past if you've not had time to apply for

8:58 ↗ if you've not had had reason to apply

9:00 ↗ for assistance yourself you might not

9:03 ↗ realize that most every Social Service

9:06 ↗ office is closed and access requires

9:09 ↗ filling out online

9:12 ↗ forms if you do not have a house you

9:16 ↗ probably do not have a computer and if

9:19 ↗ you do where will you plug it in if the

9:22 ↗ service provider wants to get back in

9:25 ↗ touch with you do you have a cell phone

9:28 ↗ do you have a way to keep it

9:30 ↗ charged for these reasons I would ask

9:33 ↗ the city to seriously consider not only

9:37 ↗ hiring an Outreach worker but providing

9:39 ↗ this Outreach worker with a space where

9:42 ↗ he or she might have some office hours

9:45 ↗ an indoor space like the Community Hall

9:48 ↗ that the city owns provides plenty of

9:51 ↗ indoor space with electrical outlets

9:53 ↗ Wi-Fi tables and bathrooms and it would

9:57 ↗ allow the Outreach worker to be of real

9:59 ↗ assistance to the people whom he or she

10:02 ↗ finds in need of help so please consider

10:06 ↗ passing that

10:08 ↗ uh 8044 measure and maybe allowing for a

10:15 ↗ little space in that Hall that the city

10:19 ↗ already

10:20 ↗ owns thank

10:22 ↗ you thank you Elizabeth uh city clerk

10:25 ↗ who's next up on our list this evening

10:27 ↗ next we have Leo FL

10:29 ↗ Leo you can unmute

10:32 ↗ yourself uh thank you good evening

10:34 ↗ Madame mayor and members of the council

10:36 ↗ my name is Leo Flor and I have the

10:37 ↗ privilege of directing King County's

10:39 ↗ Department of community and Human

10:41 ↗ Services I'm here this evening in

10:43 ↗ addition to offering this comment to be

10:45 ↗ present if I can be useful during the

10:47 ↗ council's uh deliberations about a

10:49 ↗ potential action on what was House Bill

10:51 ↗ 1590 uh and uh just to quickly summarize

10:55 ↗ uh as many folks will know the King

10:57 ↗ County Executive has proposed and the

10:59 ↗ King County Council is now considering a

11:02 ↗ measure to enact uh under the authority

11:05 ↗ of what is RCW 824 530 a sales tax that

11:09 ↗ would allow uh the county to uh really

11:12 ↗ tackle the issue of chronic homelessness

11:14 ↗ which is a regional issue that we all

11:16 ↗ see uh and seeks to provide housing uh

11:19 ↗ immediately for 2,000 of the counties

11:22 ↗ residents who are living outside uh in

11:25 ↗ tents right now and so I won't get into

11:28 ↗ any of the details I'm here to provide

11:30 ↗ uh information as is useful to the

11:32 ↗ council and if I may I also just wanted

11:34 ↗ to say thank you on behalf of the county

11:36 ↗ to isqua uh which has been a leader uh

11:40 ↗ in our pandemic response uh one of the

11:43 ↗ most important facilities uh that's kept

11:46 ↗ uh people safe uh is in the city of

11:48 ↗ issaqua and there have now been more

11:50 ↗ than 1,300 people across our County who

11:53 ↗ have stayed in isolation and quarantine

11:55 ↗ facilities uh which means that they did

11:57 ↗ not sleep while infect I or potentially

11:59 ↗ infectious in a shelter with other

12:02 ↗ vulnerable people or in a home with

12:04 ↗ loved ones who might have gotten sick uh

12:06 ↗ that is a remarkable achievement uh we

12:09 ↗ have succeeded so far in keeping many

12:11 ↗ people safe and issaqua has been a

12:12 ↗ leader in that I just wanted to say

12:14 ↗ thank you for that thank you thank you

12:17 ↗ Leo city clerk who else has signed up to

12:19 ↗ speak today next we have Ann

12:23 ↗ Fletcher great and I've unmuted

12:27 ↗ you

12:30 ↗ can you hear me yes we can okay great

12:33 ↗ thank you okay this is an Fletcher I'm a

12:36 ↗ a resident and a facilitator for people

12:39 ↗ for climate action and I want to comment

12:41 ↗ on the agenda Bill to establish an

12:44 ↗ environmental board and repeal the

12:46 ↗ rivers and streams board

12:50 ↗ code I appreciate every one of the

12:52 ↗ improvements that the Administration has

12:54 ↗ made to the proposed agenda bill as

12:58 ↗ requested by the council the planning

13:01 ↗ policy commission and the

13:03 ↗ public and I want to acknowledge the

13:06 ↗ hard work that was done by many people

13:08 ↗ to bring us to this point it was taxing

13:11 ↗ but worth it and now what is needed in

13:14 ↗ this ordinance and code for the board to

13:18 ↗ succeed well after some reflection on my

13:21 ↗ previous concern I think that the agenda

13:23 ↗ bill will work with two

13:26 ↗ amendments and in my written comment I

13:29 ↗ have specifically outlined wording that

13:32 ↗ would address those two

13:35 ↗ items the first item is the

13:38 ↗ Environmental board Duty number

13:41 ↗ four I think we should go back to the

13:43 ↗ original intent and purpose of the

13:45 ↗ checklist and broaden its scope to all

13:48 ↗ projects that could have environmental

13:50 ↗ impact in that way it would address the

13:53 ↗ concerns from the planning policy

13:54 ↗ commission regarding

13:56 ↗ transparency about seeming limitation s

13:59 ↗ being placed on the use of the

14:02 ↗ checklist and our concerns about the

14:05 ↗ board getting enough representative data

14:08 ↗ about development Transportation trees

14:11 ↗ etc for evaluating progress on the

14:15 ↗ city's environmental go goals and their

14:18 ↗ plans I appreciate that the process for

14:21 ↗ the Community Development Department was

14:23 ↗ defined in this proposal and it still

14:26 ↗ could be used or tweaked because it is

14:28 ↗ not part of the

14:29 ↗ ordinance however the checklist does not

14:33 ↗ need to be linked with the neighborhood

14:34 ↗ meeting

14:36 ↗ form provide some time for the

14:38 ↗ environmental board to be involved in

14:41 ↗ developing the checklist and for other

14:43 ↗ departments to determine how the

14:45 ↗ checklist would work into their

14:49 ↗ processes number two in the isqua

14:53 ↗ municipal code the neighborhood

14:56 ↗ meeting that is such a good good idea

14:59 ↗ for getting public review and it could

15:02 ↗ be instituted right away and tweaked as

15:05 ↗ it's tried out the code for that should

15:09 ↗ include all projects relevant to the

15:12 ↗ environment not just development

15:15 ↗ projects and the feedback looped to the

15:17 ↗ environmental board should be in that

15:21 ↗ code so these suggestions are aimed to

15:24 ↗ ensure that the ordinance and code match

15:27 ↗ our overall environmental

15:30 ↗ goals but with clear

15:32 ↗ safeguards that allow reasonable

15:35 ↗ processes to be developed for

15:39 ↗ implementation I keep circling back to

15:41 ↗ the objective of the board about the

15:43 ↗ environment and climate which we all

15:45 ↗ believe in so much and what I have

15:48 ↗ proposed I believe will help the board

15:51 ↗ and City better achieve this purpose our

15:55 ↗ natural environment protected thank

16:00 ↗ you thank you Ann uh city clerk has

16:03 ↗ anyone else signed up this evening yes

16:05 ↗ we have one more caller signed up and

16:07 ↗ for anyone else on the call if you would

16:09 ↗ like to make comments please press star

16:11 ↗ three on your phone that's star three

16:15 ↗ and next we have Connie Marsh Connie

16:18 ↗ I've unmuted

16:20 ↗ you so hi this is Connie Marsh and I

16:23 ↗ live up on squawk mountain and uh

16:26 ↗ periodically when I get so uh sort of

16:30 ↗ infuriated with the processes in the

16:32 ↗ city I have to sit back and try to

16:35 ↗ understand why things might be happening

16:38 ↗ that that uh seem so so off and I

16:45 ↗ realized I've actually never told all of

16:47 ↗ you what I think the role of a public

16:53 ↗ representative is and that is to

16:57 ↗ represent the people but that doesn't

17:00 ↗ mean you get elected and you never go

17:02 ↗ back to the people or check in to see

17:05 ↗ what the people are thinking and what

17:08 ↗ the people want and so when I am at

17:11 ↗ committee meetings or I look on a

17:14 ↗ council agenda and the process is

17:17 ↗ foreshortened to the extreme it feels

17:21 ↗ like the public and their engagement is

17:24 ↗ being totally disrespected and this

17:27 ↗ disrespect effect is I think what causes

17:30 ↗ such frustration for me because the

17:32 ↗ community tries hard to stay engaged and

17:36 ↗ do the right thing and when when their

17:40 ↗ their um thoughts and energies are not

17:45 ↗ valued or seemingly not valued or again

17:49 ↗ you don't even ask us what we think um I

17:54 ↗ I just feel like this is a deep and

17:58 ↗ wrong way of doing government now we

18:01 ↗ have a federal government who is giving

18:03 ↗ us some interesting examples as we speak

18:05 ↗ so this probably adds to the frustration

18:08 ↗ but we need to constantly adhere to

18:12 ↗ those principles of trying to respect

18:15 ↗ the go the people and the processes that

18:18 ↗ it is set upon and I think in the last

18:21 ↗ few months we have failed on that to

18:23 ↗ some extent and then let's get to the

18:26 ↗ environmental board and an was just

18:30 ↗ awesome that was really good uh so what

18:34 ↗ I would like to say is about the

18:37 ↗ checklist the checklist is something

18:40 ↗ that would gather the data as the

18:42 ↗ projects are basically put into place so

18:46 ↗ that we can evaluate how well all the

18:48 ↗ regulations are working toward the goals

18:52 ↗ and the interim checklist that was put

18:54 ↗ in um that's at the very beginning and

18:58 ↗ it it would not reflect what is actually

19:02 ↗ happening nor would the questions in it

19:05 ↗ give the data necessary to make a

19:07 ↗ judgment of our regulations so I

19:10 ↗ wholeheartedly agree with an and her uh

19:15 ↗ suggestions and then I want to have

19:19 ↗ Elizabeth be the one who

19:22 ↗ administers our social services because

19:25 ↗ I think her ideas are spot on it is our

19:29 ↗ local small things that we can do in our

19:33 ↗ community and instead isqua seems to

19:36 ↗ focus on building these big nearly

19:40 ↗ Regional structures for health when

19:43 ↗ really maybe what we need is we need a

19:45 ↗ room with some electricity so people can

19:47 ↗ plug in and we need some showers and

19:49 ↗ that could be the most effective thing

19:51 ↗ that we could do so I am not for the

19:54 ↗ city getting a large amount of money uh

19:58 ↗ to build big things I want our values to

20:03 ↗ be put to these people on our streets

20:06 ↗ who frankly many of us know and need our

20:11 ↗ help that is my priority so thank you

20:14 ↗ very

20:16 ↗ much thank you Connie uh city clerk has

20:19 ↗ anyone else signed up to speak this

20:20 ↗ evening no one else has signed up to

20:23 ↗ speak or indicated a desired to speak

20:26 ↗ thank you

20:29 ↗ um I just want to say thanks to those

20:32 ↗ that did come um thank you Leo for being

20:35 ↗ available this evening in case the city

20:37 ↗ council has some additional questions

20:39 ↗ about King County and HB

20:41 ↗ 1590 um and we also had a lot of

20:44 ↗ comments on the environmental formation

20:47 ↗ of the environmental board and housing

20:50 ↗ options uh to collect whether or not the

20:53 ↗ city should collect 0.1% sales tax in

20:55 ↗ Lou of the county and some information

20:59 ↗ on adjustments that could be made to the

21:02 ↗ environmental committee ordinance so

21:04 ↗ thank you all for coming in I appreciate

21:06 ↗ that um for those that are watching or

21:09 ↗ would like to provide additional

21:11 ↗ comments please remember that you can

21:12 ↗ always email your city council at any

21:14 ↗ time at city council isqua

21:17 ↗ wa.gov and uh any comments that were

21:20 ↗ received by email on tonight's agenda

21:22 ↗ topics will be acknowledged by the

21:24 ↗ council president under the relative

21:26 ↗ relevant agenda item so the next item of

21:29 ↗ business this evening is going to be

21:30 ↗ committee and Regional reports and we

21:33 ↗ will start with council member

21:36 ↗ Hall thank you mayor paully this is uh

21:38 ↗ council member Zach Hall um I have a

21:42 ↗ couple of quick reports to make this

21:43 ↗ evening first is for uh Cascade water

21:46 ↗ Alliance so um the board of directors

21:49 ↗ met on Wednesday September 23rd uh

21:52 ↗ during this meeting the board made a

21:53 ↗ number of noteworthy decisions I want to

21:55 ↗ share with you and uh I um I'm sure

21:58 ↗ mayor Paulie will join me in thanking

22:00 ↗ the city council again for providing us

22:02 ↗ with great feedback at the last regular

22:04 ↗ city council meeting thank you very much

22:06 ↗ um so at this meeting the board voted to

22:08 ↗ adopt the 2021 through 22 budget um the

22:13 ↗ board voted to adopt the new uh

22:15 ↗ 2.2% annual rate increase uh I'll also

22:19 ↗ note that this vote was unanimous but uh

22:22 ↗ mayor paully voiced our city council's

22:24 ↗ concerns of a rate increase during the

22:26 ↗ pandemic for the record and um the

22:29 ↗ Redman representative did the same so I

22:31 ↗ just wanted to share that with you uh

22:32 ↗ the board also voted uh to amend our

22:35 ↗ water rate meth methodology so

22:38 ↗ establishing a new class of rates to

22:41 ↗ allow member cities like isqua uh to

22:43 ↗ purchase Surplus water at a discount so

22:46 ↗ that's good news um our next board

22:48 ↗ meeting is later this month on Wednesday

22:50 ↗ October

22:52 ↗ 28th uh next the King County affordable

22:55 ↗ housing Committee of the growth

22:57 ↗ management planning

22:58 ↗ Council met last Wednesday September

23:01 ↗ 30th uh during this meeting uh we

23:04 ↗ discussed uh a work plan item to develop

23:06 ↗ a list of shared principles to guide

23:09 ↗ County City business and

23:12 ↗ nonprofit efforts to implement new and

23:15 ↗ or untapped Revenue sources for

23:18 ↗ affordable housing I'm mentioning this

23:20 ↗ now because this conversation is ongoing

23:23 ↗ some sound cities Association members

23:26 ↗ are concerned about it and I'll have

23:28 ↗ much more to share about any proposed

23:31 ↗ shared principles with the mayor and the

23:34 ↗ city council um sometime before the next

23:37 ↗ committee meeting which isn't for

23:38 ↗ another month and a half so more to come

23:40 ↗ on that uh King County staff also

23:43 ↗ presented their health through housing

23:45 ↗ proposal uh which is attached to genda

23:48 ↗ Bill 8047 in tonight's packet you know

23:50 ↗ this is the County's proposal to

23:52 ↗ implement a 0.1% sales tax increase to

23:55 ↗ support affordable housing across the

23:56 ↗ county and I'm I'm sure we'll be hearing

23:58 ↗ a lot more about that later tonight um

24:01 ↗ finally the committee received a staff

24:03 ↗ update on our countywide planning

24:06 ↗ policies work uh and just as a reminder

24:08 ↗ for the council and the community uh the

24:10 ↗ King County affordable housing committee

24:12 ↗ is actually chartered to make

24:14 ↗ recommendations to the growth management

24:17 ↗ planning Council on the housing chapter

24:19 ↗ of the countywide planning policies that

24:21 ↗ was just a lot of gibberish so to put it

24:25 ↗ another way those policies govern how

24:27 ↗ cities like us should update our

24:29 ↗ comprehensive plans uh so staff had made

24:32 ↗ a recommendation to our committee um

24:35 ↗ that we frame our own recommendations

24:38 ↗ around equity in public health and there

24:40 ↗ was consensus to move forward with that

24:42 ↗ so that work is on going and I'll also

24:44 ↗ have something of more substance for you

24:46 ↗ all um next month our next committee

24:50 ↗ meeting of the affordable housing

24:52 ↗ committee is Tuesday November 3rd at

24:55 ↗ 1M uh and then I'll let uh either

24:58 ↗ council member Goodman or Deputy council

24:59 ↗ president Ray give their report for

25:01 ↗ eastside fire and rescue and that

25:03 ↗ concludes my report for the even thank

25:06 ↗ you council member Hall council member D

25:10 ↗ Michelle uh thank you mayor mayor Paulie

25:14 ↗ I I have two um reports the first one is

25:18 ↗ that I attended a special work group

25:20 ↗ meeting for eastside Human Services

25:22 ↗ Forum on Tuesday September the 29th uh

25:26 ↗ the board continues to work through

25:27 ↗ Mission Vision and organizational issues

25:31 ↗ uh the comments provided during the

25:33 ↗ 2-hour session will inform an executive

25:35 ↗ board meeting that will be held later

25:37 ↗ this month the second report is that I

25:40 ↗ attended the healthier here governing

25:42 ↗ board meeting on October 1st the

25:45 ↗ highlight of the meeting was an

25:47 ↗ extensive report on the planning for

25:49 ↗ covid-19 vaccination campaign scheduled

25:53 ↗ for early

25:54 ↗ 2021 and of course that's dependent on

25:57 ↗ when we actually have a vaccine Seattle

25:59 ↗ King County Public Health is engaged in

26:01 ↗ a planning and outreach program already

26:04 ↗ underway to prepare the public for two

26:07 ↗ important initiatives the first one is a

26:09 ↗ flu vaccination campaign for this fall

26:12 ↗ with a goal of vaccinating everyone in

26:15 ↗ King County against the fall flu and two

26:18 ↗ the largest public health campaign in

26:20 ↗ the history of the United States when a

26:22 ↗ covid-19 vaccine becomes available

26:25 ↗ hopefully in early 2021

26:28 ↗ as of now those two campaigns are being

26:30 ↗ planned to strategically complement each

26:32 ↗ other with the flu vaccine campaign

26:35 ↗ Paving the way this fall possibly

26:37 ↗ helping to reduce the strength of future

26:40 ↗ covid-19 waves and laying the framework

26:43 ↗ for the co9 vaccination campaign in

26:46 ↗ 2021 a focus of both campaigns is

26:49 ↗ increasing public Trust of the process

26:52 ↗ for developing vaccines through complete

26:55 ↗ transparency as well as helping the

26:57 ↗ public understand the benefits of

27:00 ↗ vaccination and those are my two reports

27:02 ↗ thank you very much thank you council

27:05 ↗ member D Michelle council member

27:07 ↗ Walsh thank you I have two very short

27:10 ↗ reports because both of my meetings are

27:12 ↗ upcoming um the huget sound Economic

27:16 ↗ Development District board will meet on

27:18 ↗ Wednesday to discuss recovery efforts by

27:21 ↗ the Washington State Department of

27:23 ↗ Commerce and we'll also get a report on

27:28 ↗ the scope timeline and focus for the

27:30 ↗ regional economic strategy including the

27:33 ↗ cares act funding that was recently

27:35 ↗ awarded to the economic development

27:38 ↗ District um so there's some money there

27:41 ↗ not sure how it's going to be

27:42 ↗ distributed or used um and then the

27:46 ↗ following Friday on the 16th I will

27:49 ↗ attend the chamber board meeting and I

27:52 ↗ expect we will continue to talk about

27:55 ↗ the items that are on our agenda tonight

27:57 ↗ as well as budget that concludes my

28:00 ↗ report thank you council member Walsh

28:03 ↗ council member Goodman thank you mayor

28:05 ↗ Paulie councilman MCG Goodman here um

28:07 ↗ East Side Fire and Rescue board of

28:09 ↗ directors will meet this Thursday

28:10 ↗ October 8th at 4M at headquarters and we

28:13 ↗ are scheduled to um take action on two

28:17 ↗ items that we uh the council discussed

28:19 ↗ last week one is the proposed formation

28:21 ↗ of a nonprofit entity to replace the um

28:25 ↗ the current arrangement which then if

28:28 ↗ that is um approved would have to come

28:31 ↗ back to all of the member entities all

28:33 ↗ the member um members for a vote all of

28:36 ↗ the policy makers so that would come

28:37 ↗ back to our Council and the other item

28:40 ↗ is the um the budget for next year the

28:44 ↗ um lodging tax advisory committee uh

28:47 ↗ will meet on October

28:49 ↗ 14th um and you may recall I talked

28:52 ↗ about a couple of um funding items um

28:56 ↗ and the next next meeting we are going

28:58 ↗ to talk about um the requests for

29:01 ↗ proposals um that were received

29:03 ↗ regarding tourism promotion for next

29:05 ↗ year five proposals were received um I

29:08 ↗ have not looked at them so I can't tell

29:09 ↗ you who we received them from but uh the

29:12 ↗ committee will be reviewing those and

29:13 ↗ making a recommendation to the full

29:16 ↗ Council um don't have a meeting

29:18 ↗ scheduled for this yet um but for the

29:21 ↗ other um funding item that's going

29:24 ↗ through lodging tax advisory committee

29:27 ↗ um they're also uh we are also seeking

29:32 ↗ um applications from businesses and not

29:35 ↗ for profits um for funding for up to

29:39 ↗ $10,000 I believe it's

29:41 ↗ $50,000 now in $5,000 next march um and

29:46 ↗ the deadline for those applications um

29:49 ↗ was today and there will be a few future

29:52 ↗ meeting to discuss those so those will

29:53 ↗ be back with recommendations as well and

29:56 ↗ that's my report thank you thank you

29:58 ↗ council member Goodman council member

30:04 ↗ Marts sorry juggling Windows uh thank

30:07 ↗ you Madame mayor this is council member

30:08 ↗ Marts uh I also have a short uh report

30:12 ↗ because it's two upcoming meetings the

30:14 ↗ sound cities Association public issues

30:17 ↗ committee uh will be meeting Wednesday

30:19 ↗ October 14th from 7il 9:00 p.m. uh right

30:24 ↗ now on the agenda uh there is

30:27 ↗ appointment uh of the 2021 pick

30:30 ↗ nominating committee

30:32 ↗ members uh and uh talking about the

30:36 ↗ legislative agenda uh and then uh the

30:40 ↗ next day Thursday October 15th from 10

30:42 ↗ till noon is the fuget toown Regional

30:45 ↗ Council growth management policy board

30:47 ↗ uh the agenda is still TBD thank you and

30:50 ↗ that concludes my report thank you

30:52 ↗ council member Mars Deputy council

30:54 ↗ president Ray thank you mayor paully

30:56 ↗ this is Chris Ray um one report this

30:59 ↗ evening um the King County uh planning

31:03 ↗ Pol or growth management plan planning

31:07 ↗ Council I'm having trouble getting that

31:08 ↗ out today thank you Zach um the regular

31:12 ↗ meeting was scheduled for SE September

31:14 ↗ 30th was not conducted as a result of

31:16 ↗ some scheduling difficulties in instead

31:19 ↗ we had a u work session the agenda of

31:21 ↗ the work session included a history of

31:24 ↗ the growth management planning Council

31:26 ↗ and how decisions are made overview of

31:29 ↗ the growth management Act and the

31:30 ↗ planning framework guiding principles

31:32 ↗ for updating the countywide planning

31:34 ↗ policies overview of the concepts being

31:37 ↗ highlighted for change in

31:39 ↗ 2021 an overview of the process for

31:41 ↗ setting growth targets uh the next

31:43 ↗ meeting of gmpc is currently scheduled

31:46 ↗ for December 2nd 2020 at 4M and that

31:49 ↗ concludes my report this

31:51 ↗ evening thank you Deputy council

31:53 ↗ president council president

31:55 ↗ hunt thank you madam mayor this is

31:57 ↗ council president hunt the city council

32:00 ↗ ad hoc committee that is working on

32:02 ↗ Title 18 which is a chapter of our um

32:06 ↗ Municipal Code that deals with land use

32:08 ↗ met on October 1st um this is a council

32:11 ↗ committee consisting of myself council

32:14 ↗ members Walsh and council member Goodman

32:17 ↗ um and we went over a chart that were

32:21 ↗ developing with staff that covers the

32:24 ↗ objectives of what we want to achieve

32:26 ↗ with the land use code updates as well

32:30 ↗ as the actions we intend to take as far

32:32 ↗ as what we want to change with the code

32:34 ↗ and then expected outcomes and what we

32:37 ↗ want to achieve we uh got about halfway

32:40 ↗ through editing that and we'll continue

32:42 ↗ that work on October 8th and then we

32:44 ↗ plan to bring that um document back to

32:47 ↗ council for consideration at an upcoming

32:49 ↗ meeting and that concludes my report

32:52 ↗ thank you council president the next

32:55 ↗ item on our agenda this evening is the

32:57 ↗ mayor's report and uh I'll have several

33:00 ↗ items this evening I'm just going to

33:02 ↗ check in with city clerk do we also have

33:05 ↗ uh some slides that go with this mayor's

33:09 ↗ report no there we go yes thank you very

33:12 ↗ much so the first item I have this

33:15 ↗ evening is a proclamation it's for

33:17 ↗ Substance Abuse Prevention and I'd like

33:20 ↗ to read this into the record whereas

33:22 ↗ many of our young people do not develop

33:24 ↗ the skills needed to productively go

33:26 ↗ through adolescent substance free and

33:29 ↗ whereas substance use can and does

33:32 ↗ negatively impact the development and

33:34 ↗ potential for our youth to succeed and

33:37 ↗ whereas substance use prevention has a

33:39 ↗ greater impact than later intervention

33:42 ↗ by changing a child's early life path

33:44 ↗ away from maladaptive Solutions and

33:47 ↗ towards positive behaviors and

33:50 ↗ productivity whereas by stopping the

33:52 ↗ drug use before it starts we can prevent

33:54 ↗ the disease of addiction and create

33:56 ↗ stronger neighborhoods in our community

33:58 ↗ I proclaim the month of October 2020 as

34:01 ↗ Substance Abuse Prevention month in the

34:04 ↗ city of isqua and I call upon citizens

34:07 ↗ to join me in engaging in appropriate

34:09 ↗ programs and activities to promote

34:12 ↗ comprehensive Substance Abuse Prevention

34:15 ↗ efforts in our

34:16 ↗ community the next item on the mayor's

34:19 ↗ report is the Southeast 62nd tunnel

34:22 ↗ mural this is probably the first time

34:24 ↗ the council is hearing about this so

34:27 ↗ from a group of 26 artists who responded

34:29 ↗ to the city's RFQ for a mural project

34:32 ↗ Devon Finley was selected by the Arts

34:34 ↗ commission Devon has significant

34:37 ↗ large-scale mural experience throughout

34:39 ↗ the West Coast the artwork is inspired

34:42 ↗ by the local wildlife inhabiting isqua

34:44 ↗ and the surrounding area the animals are

34:46 ↗ designed with highly saturated colors to

34:49 ↗ help bring them to life creating more

34:51 ↗ energy and personality within each

34:53 ↗ animal while also adding balance from

34:55 ↗ the more monochroma atic background the

34:58 ↗ mural will be painted in the Southeast

35:00 ↗ 62nd tunnel on the East Lake samamish

35:03 ↗ Trail in October the interior walls of

35:06 ↗ the tunnel are approximately 128 ft long

35:09 ↗ and 11t high and the tunnel has

35:12 ↗ experienced a significant amount of

35:13 ↗ graffiti in the past two years the mural

35:16 ↗ artwork is intended to serve as a

35:18 ↗ graffiti deterrent the completed artwork

35:21 ↗ will be finished with an anti-graffiti

35:24 ↗ sealant next item on the mayor's report

35:26 ↗ this evening is about Vision 2050 from

35:30 ↗ The pett Sound Regional Council the pett

35:33 ↗ sound Regional Council adopted Vision

35:34 ↗ 2050 on September 24th 2020 the plan is

35:38 ↗ a 4Count blueprint for how the region

35:41 ↗ can plan for the growth that is expected

35:43 ↗ to come to the region in the coming

35:45 ↗ decade the graphic on the screen

35:47 ↗ indicates what the next steps will be

35:49 ↗ for the county and for cities and towns

35:52 ↗ through 2021 King County will work on

35:54 ↗ updating its comprehensive planning

35:56 ↗ policy

35:57 ↗ and we'll discuss the allocation of

35:59 ↗ growth targets with cities located

36:01 ↗ within their jurisdiction over the

36:03 ↗ following 3 years cities will work on

36:05 ↗ updating their comprehensive plans I

36:07 ↗ hope to facilitate conversations with

36:09 ↗ our community and our Council as this

36:12 ↗ process moves

36:13 ↗ forward the next item I have to share

36:16 ↗ tonight is about a Community Development

36:18 ↗ block grant award that we will be

36:20 ↗ receiving from King County the city has

36:22 ↗ been awarded

36:24 ↗ $75,000 in a community development BL

36:27 ↗ block grant funds from King County to

36:29 ↗ provide Tech Business technical

36:32 ↗ assistance for low and Moder moderate

36:35 ↗ income micro entrepreneurs in

36:38 ↗ 2021 this is the first Community

36:40 ↗ Development blockr application that

36:42 ↗ isqua has submitted in several years and

36:44 ↗ we're thankful for the regional

36:46 ↗ committee that improved this investment

36:49 ↗ later this year staff will conduct a

36:50 ↗ requests for proposals to select a

36:53 ↗ provider we are also doing an isqua

36:56 ↗ business business survey every four

36:58 ↗ years the city sends a business survey

37:00 ↗ to all businesses to better understand

37:02 ↗ the business climate and how to best

37:04 ↗ help businesses operate and grow with

37:06 ↗ the ongoing covid-19 pandemic it's even

37:09 ↗ more important to hear from our

37:10 ↗ businesses to help guide our policies

37:13 ↗ during the crisis and over the course of

37:15 ↗ the next few years if you are an Isa

37:18 ↗ business you will receive a survey in

37:20 ↗ the mail and we hope that you will take

37:22 ↗ the 10 minutes to complete the survey

37:24 ↗ you can also complete the survey online

37:26 ↗ is

37:28 ↗ the.gov visis survey B Iz s v y before

37:33 ↗ October 23rd and we will staff will be

37:36 ↗ reporting out on their findings in

37:39 ↗ December I have an announcement on an

37:42 ↗ interim dog park pilot project as we

37:45 ↗ continue navigating covid recovery the

37:48 ↗ important role our city parks and public

37:50 ↗ spaces play in our isqua physical social

37:54 ↗ and Community Health IS F further

37:56 ↗ confirmed we need to find creative and

37:59 ↗ safe ways for the community to recreate

38:01 ↗ and come together and that remains a

38:03 ↗ priority this goal is evident in our

38:06 ↗ approach to a dog park Although our plan

38:08 ↗ for a long-term and permanent dog park

38:11 ↗ has been delayed due to the pandemic we

38:14 ↗ are launching a creative plan to install

38:16 ↗ rotating temporary dog parks within the

38:19 ↗ city parks starting this fall isqua's

38:22 ↗ first offleash dog parks in city park

38:25 ↗ park space while we continue to pursue a

38:28 ↗ permanent dog park this program

38:30 ↗ beginning next month will provide

38:32 ↗ rotating temporary dog parks from a half

38:34 ↗ acre to 3/4 acres in size they'll be set

38:37 ↗ up at a variety of city park spaces

38:39 ↗ throughout town the idea was discussed

38:42 ↗ with residents and dog park enthusiasts

38:44 ↗ at a September 17th virtual public

38:46 ↗ meeting the positive response and

38:49 ↗ helpful feedback was been shared and

38:50 ↗ discussed with the Parks Board on

38:52 ↗ September 28th once again the feedback

38:55 ↗ was supportive for proed uing this

38:56 ↗ interim solution while the long-term

38:58 ↗ permanent site continues over the next 2

39:01 ↗ to four years the first three sites for

39:04 ↗ these pop-up dark Parks have been

39:06 ↗ identified these three sites will get us

39:08 ↗ through the first year of the program

39:10 ↗ and the sites and time frames are the

39:13 ↗ lawn area of the Pickering Barn from

39:16 ↗ November 2020 to January

39:18 ↗ 2021 squawk Valley Park at the south end

39:21 ↗ of town from February 2021 to May 2021

39:26 ↗ and the isqua community center old skate

39:29 ↗ skate park site from June 2021 to

39:33 ↗ October 2021 all three sites have

39:36 ↗ existing suitable surfacing available

39:38 ↗ parking an accessible route and will

39:41 ↗ avoid nearby critical areas Andor

39:44 ↗ buffers working around existing

39:46 ↗ programming and historical uses within

39:48 ↗ our Parks was also an important

39:51 ↗ consideration this first year will serve

39:53 ↗ as a pilot for this approach and we will

39:55 ↗ learn from it and make modifications

39:57 ↗ like considering other locations for the

40:00 ↗ year 2 Dog Park tour schedule and lineup

40:04 ↗ so look for further details as we make

40:06 ↗ final preparations for the early

40:08 ↗ November opening of the first

40:11 ↗ site that concludes the mayor's report

40:14 ↗ and the next item of business we'll be

40:16 ↗ moving on to is the consent calendar the

40:19 ↗ consent calendar was distributed to

40:20 ↗ Council in advance and if authorized the

40:23 ↗ items on the consent calendar will be

40:24 ↗ considered together and approved by one

40:26 ↗ motion have the payables and payroll

40:29 ↗ been

40:30 ↗ reviewed this is council member Hall

40:32 ↗ they have this is council member Walsh

40:35 ↗ they have thank you very much does any

40:38 ↗ council member desire to remove any item

40:41 ↗ from the consent calendar and consider

40:42 ↗ it under regular

40:46 ↗ business I am not seeing any indication

40:48 ↗ of that before we move to the motion I'd

40:50 ↗ like to ask council president hunt um

40:53 ↗ have you received any emails that you

40:55 ↗ would like to share on any the consent

40:57 ↗ calendar

40:58 ↗ item thank you Madame mayor this is

41:00 ↗ council president hunt and yes we did

41:02 ↗ receive emails from two residents

41:05 ↗ regarding multiple items that are on the

41:07 ↗ consent calendar this evening um one

41:10 ↗ resident wrote To Us regarding several

41:13 ↗ items one is AB 831 which was the sixe

41:17 ↗ transportation Improvement program or

41:19 ↗ tip um concerned about school sighting

41:22 ↗ and how that would interact with the

41:25 ↗ transportation improvements in that plan

41:27 ↗ and would like um to hear more Council

41:30 ↗ discussion regarding AB 835 which is the

41:33 ↗ King County cooperative watershed

41:35 ↗ management Grant um the resident

41:39 ↗ recommended approval but also wanted to

41:41 ↗ make sure that there were actual

41:42 ↗ management improvements and not just

41:45 ↗ studies um and water watershed

41:47 ↗ management um actions taken regarding AB

41:52 ↗ 8037 um which is the state department of

41:54 ↗ ecology fiscal year 2022 water quality

41:58 ↗ combined funding grants um also would

42:01 ↗ like more Council discussion similarly

42:03 ↗ concerned about the eff of growth on

42:05 ↗ water quality and wanting to hear more

42:07 ↗ about these programs and how they would

42:10 ↗ impact water quality and then regarding

42:13 ↗ AB 8038 which is water system projects

42:16 ↗ to enable use of additional Regional

42:18 ↗ water um wanted to hear more discussion

42:21 ↗ and had concerns about the funding who

42:24 ↗ would pay current residents versus

42:26 ↗ future residents um we received another

42:29 ↗ email from a different um resident as

42:32 ↗ well also on this concerned about um

42:35 ↗ changes especially changes in floration

42:37 ↗ and that these be noticed to people who

42:40 ↗ would be affected by um any changes to

42:43 ↗ the water system and then also from this

42:46 ↗ second resident uh concern that for

42:49 ↗ storm water grants and stormw Grant

42:52 ↗ applications that the locations of any

42:54 ↗ changes be included in map so that that

42:57 ↗ could be better

42:58 ↗ tracked and that concludes comments on

43:02 ↗ items on the consent calendar this

43:04 ↗ evening thank you council president hunt

43:06 ↗ would anyone care to make a

43:11 ↗ motion council president

43:13 ↗ hunt I move to approve the consent

43:16 ↗ calendar as it appears in tonight's

43:19 ↗ agenda thank you is there a

43:24 ↗ second this is Chris ra the

43:27 ↗ motion thank you Deputy council

43:29 ↗ president Ray it's been moved and

43:30 ↗ seconded I'm going to go to the clerk

43:32 ↗ now for a roll call

43:34 ↗ Vote Yes starting with council member

43:38 ↗ Hall I council president

43:42 ↗ hunt I council member Marts I Deputy

43:48 ↗ council president Ray I council member

43:52 ↗ Walsh I council member D Michelle

43:57 ↗ I council member Goodman I that's s i

44:01 ↗ zero n thank you very much city clerk

44:04 ↗ that passes unanimously we'll move on to

44:07 ↗ our first item of regular business

44:10 ↗ ab84 847 affordable housing sales and

44:14 ↗ use tax the action before the council

44:16 ↗ tonight is to consider adopting an

44:18 ↗ ordinance this is the first time this

44:20 ↗ item is coming before Council there has

44:24 ↗ been a lot of discussion out in the

44:26 ↗ community but not at this Council table

44:28 ↗ here it is coming forward this evening

44:31 ↗ both at my request and also the request

44:34 ↗ of three council members so City

44:36 ↗ administrator Bob quitz um could you

44:39 ↗ please introduce this and get the

44:41 ↗ discussion

44:43 ↗ going yes thank you Madame mayor members

44:45 ↗ of the council as mayor Paulie indicated

44:47 ↗ there has been a lot of discussion over

44:48 ↗ the last week or so about this item but

44:51 ↗ for the members of the community

44:52 ↗ watching I want to provide just sort of

44:54 ↗ a brief overview of of the matter before

44:57 ↗ us uh this agenda Bill seeks the city

44:59 ↗ council's adoption of a proposed

45:01 ↗ ordinance which which would Implement a

45:04 ↗ 0.1% sales tax to fund affordable

45:06 ↗ housing Mental Health Services and

45:08 ↗ related Services uh the authorization

45:11 ↗ for uh this tax goes back to 2015 when

45:14 ↗ the Washington State Legislature enacted

45:16 ↗ legislation allowing any county in the

45:18 ↗ state to Levy a sales tax of up to

45:21 ↗ 1/10th of 1% uh for affordable housing

45:23 ↗ and related Services initially to the

45:26 ↗ tax increase required voter approval uh

45:28 ↗ the Washington State Legislature earlier

45:30 ↗ this year uh passed AB 1590 uh which

45:34 ↗ allowed this task to be passed uh using

45:36 ↗ local uh Council manic or County board

45:39 ↗ authority uh and the bill was codified

45:42 ↗ in RCW

45:54 ↗ 82.14% could choose to impose the tax uh

45:57 ↗ with the new legislation uh in 2020 a

46:00 ↗ new deadline was set for counties to

46:02 ↗ impose the tax uh that deadline was

46:05 ↗ September 30th 2020 after this date any

46:08 ↗ City may choose to impose the tax

46:10 ↗ through a vot of the city council or a

46:12 ↗ ballot measure um Madame mayor members

46:14 ↗ of the council as you're aware there has

46:17 ↗ been discussion by King County with

46:19 ↗ their uh intention to move forward with

46:22 ↗ us as soon as their next County council

46:24 ↗ meeting on September 13th

46:26 ↗ um if the city of is 1 sorry to sorry

46:31 ↗ October 13th October 13th excuse me um

46:35 ↗ but there is a window of time between

46:37 ↗ now and then if a a individual City wish

46:39 ↗ to take action uh to impose the tax if

46:42 ↗ an individual city did choose to impose

46:44 ↗ the tax and the county did later impose

46:46 ↗ the tax the city would be able to retain

46:48 ↗ those dollars uh so the matter before

46:51 ↗ the council this evening is does this

46:53 ↗ make sense to move forward with such an

46:55 ↗ ordinance uh prior to the King County

46:57 ↗ Council doing that uh much has

46:59 ↗ transpired over the last several days on

47:01 ↗ this matter and perhaps mayor paully uh

47:04 ↗ could pick up the story uh from here

47:06 ↗ from the discussions that she's had with

47:08 ↗ representatives of King County mayor

47:10 ↗ Paulie thank you very much State ad

47:12 ↗ ministrator Bob quits this is the mayor

47:14 ↗ uh there have been a lot of

47:15 ↗ conversations out in the region over the

47:17 ↗ last two weeks as the September 30th

47:20 ↗ original deadline um was looming uh SCBA

47:25 ↗ has convened many groups of Mayors as

47:28 ↗ well as had meetings with the uh King

47:30 ↗ County Executives office as well just

47:33 ↗ trying to sort out uh and get an

47:36 ↗ understanding of what the King County

47:37 ↗ proposal is and what the city's support

47:41 ↗ is for those proposals and there's been

47:43 ↗ a bit of a varied reaction um many of

47:46 ↗ our neighboring cities have chosen to um

47:50 ↗ support the King County proposal and are

47:52 ↗ not entertaining um motions at this time

47:55 ↗ time to adopt their own ordinance

47:58 ↗ several cities in the South um are

48:01 ↗ having conversations about whether or

48:03 ↗ not uh Tuesday night they may consider

48:05 ↗ similar motions to the one you see

48:07 ↗ before you tonight there are lots of

48:11 ↗ different avenues that cities can go

48:13 ↗ down um you have many of those options

48:16 ↗ before you tonight and I'm sure we will

48:18 ↗ have a robust conversation about them I

48:20 ↗ attended a meeting this morning with um

48:23 ↗ executive Constantine to of the King

48:26 ↗ County council members and three other

48:28 ↗ Mayors to talk through some of the

48:30 ↗ issues and in particular to talk through

48:32 ↗ some isqua specific issues um I wanted

48:36 ↗ to remind the executive's office about a

48:38 ↗ project proposal that the council has

48:40 ↗ been considering for four to five years

48:42 ↗ now uh a partnership with uh King King

48:46 ↗ County Housing an award of a grant from

48:48 ↗ King County for $10 million and a

48:51 ↗ partnership with Spectrum um a private

48:54 ↗ developer to construct approximately 350

48:57 ↗ housing units close to the current

49:00 ↗ transit center on State Route 900 and

49:03 ↗ also the city council's desire to make

49:06 ↗ sure that wraparound Services services

49:09 ↗ that support residents such as mental

49:12 ↗ mental health uh mental and behavior

49:14 ↗ health dental and medical are available

49:16 ↗ in proximity to the new project and this

49:19 ↗ Council has taken several votes moving

49:22 ↗ this project proposal forward and also

49:24 ↗ committing funds to

49:26 ↗ the construction of the tenant um of the

49:29 ↗ pre- tenant buildout um at this

49:32 ↗ potential future facility I wanted to

49:35 ↗ ensure that

49:37 ↗ um the King County Executive understood

49:41 ↗ that there were options that this city

49:44 ↗ council might consider being a city of

49:46 ↗ less than 60,000 we are actually not

49:50 ↗ able to receive 30% of the tax collected

49:54 ↗ in this squab back to have under our

49:57 ↗ control yet we do have projects on the

49:59 ↗ horizon and in particular this cood

50:01 ↗ project and that that could be

50:02 ↗ concerning to our Council and so that

50:05 ↗ they wanted to have a discussion and

50:07 ↗ talk about taking action action that

50:09 ↗ could be anywhere from supporting the

50:11 ↗ King County proposal as it is um

50:14 ↗ adopting an ordinance that um had all of

50:17 ↗ the 0.1% coming to isqua um adopting an

50:21 ↗ ordinance that says if we can work out

50:24 ↗ something with King County's Executives

50:27 ↗ office to support the um funding of the

50:31 ↗ Opportunity Center that U we could

50:33 ↗ support the

50:34 ↗ proposal and um several other variations

50:38 ↗ of that so there's been a lot of

50:39 ↗ information in the packet there's been a

50:41 ↗ lot of information and phone calls today

50:44 ↗ um we have put together um a package of

50:47 ↗ information that allows you to review

50:49 ↗ what an ordinance might look like and we

50:52 ↗ are also fortunate enough to have le

50:54 ↗ Flur who is is um a director for these

50:58 ↗ services available here tonight for you

51:01 ↗ to ask additional

51:03 ↗ questions so that is some additional

51:06 ↗ background City administrator Bob quits

51:08 ↗ was there anything you would like to add

51:09 ↗ to

51:10 ↗ that uh only Madame mayor that we

51:13 ↗ prepare we're here to answer any

51:15 ↗ questions that you have as you've

51:16 ↗ mentioned uh in the packet is a draft

51:19 ↗ ordinance Mr Haney uh is with us and can

51:22 ↗ speak to uh that ordinance also there

51:25 ↗ are timing issues associated with this

51:29 ↗ council president hunt received a

51:30 ↗ communication this evening from the uh

51:33 ↗ chair of the King County Council

51:34 ↗ indicating that perhaps the time uh has

51:37 ↗ shifted uh for consideration by the King

51:39 ↗ County Council that uh the president uh

51:43 ↗ of the council indicated that there will

51:44 ↗ not be a final vote now on the 13th so

51:48 ↗ that is new news uh based on what we had

51:50 ↗ heard previously um so um again we're

51:54 ↗ happy to answer any

51:57 ↗ questions uh thank you City

51:59 ↗ administrator Bob quits that was

52:01 ↗ different information than I had but we

52:03 ↗ do have Mr Flur here to answer questions

52:06 ↗ as well um before we move into Council

52:10 ↗ questions uh council president hunt I

52:12 ↗ wanted to know if you had gotten any

52:13 ↗ public comments on um this item email to

52:18 ↗ you email to the council this week thank

52:20 ↗ you Madame mayor we did I also um just

52:24 ↗ wanted to correct

52:26 ↗ yeah I misspoke I

52:28 ↗ apologize oh okay um so to so to be

52:32 ↗ clear they do plan um King County

52:35 ↗ Council does plan to take a vote until

52:38 ↗ October 13th uh on October 13th my

52:41 ↗ apologies I I misread the email my

52:43 ↗ apologies thank you City administer Bob

52:45 ↗ quitz council president yes um thank you

52:49 ↗ we did receive a number of comments um

52:52 ↗ very recent comments I apologize if I

52:53 ↗ missed any we re received a um a comment

52:58 ↗ in uh opposition to new taxes generally

53:02 ↗ speaking um if we did and then also this

53:05 ↗ um uh Community member who wrote To Us

53:08 ↗ urged that if we if we did plan on um

53:12 ↗ imposing this tax and then repealing it

53:14 ↗ which is one of the options that's

53:16 ↗ described in our packet um if the King

53:18 ↗ County council did not impose a tax that

53:20 ↗ we be very clear about that and also

53:23 ↗ this resident um had question about the

53:25 ↗ scope of use and what we could do if we

53:28 ↗ were to impose the tax with that tax we

53:31 ↗ received a letter um in opposition which

53:34 ↗ had many signatories which was from the

53:36 ↗ King County Alliance for Human Services

53:39 ↗ which was opposed to us imposing a um

53:42 ↗ sales tax because uh basically because

53:47 ↗ this would mean that the tax would not

53:49 ↗ be used um in the same way if it were a

53:52 ↗ King County tax at the regional level if

53:54 ↗ we were to adopt a city level approach

53:58 ↗ um we received a email in support with

54:01 ↗ restrictions um in terms of if the

54:05 ↗ county opted not to proceed that the

54:07 ↗ city should also opt not to proceed but

54:09 ↗ otherwise um in support to address our

54:12 ↗ local issues with this tax as far as

54:15 ↗ affordable housing needs um and then

54:17 ↗ another Resident that wrote To Us in

54:20 ↗ opposition um and spoke to the need for

54:25 ↗ Solutions and not um a local tax for

54:28 ↗ this that I believe um covers all of the

54:32 ↗ comments and again apologies if I missed

54:34 ↗ any late breaking comments thank you

54:36 ↗ council president hunt I do see a lineup

54:38 ↗ for questions and comments coming as

54:40 ↗ well um you did remind me of maybe one

54:43 ↗ additional point that I did not make

54:45 ↗ very clearly and that is that while

54:47 ↗ there are several cities um south of

54:50 ↗ Seattle that are asking a lot of

54:53 ↗ questions right now the majority of

54:55 ↗ cities on the east side um have not

54:58 ↗ weigh in on this and those that work

55:00 ↗ with us under Arch are comfortable with

55:03 ↗ the council proposal and comfortable

55:05 ↗ with a regional solution so I just want

55:08 ↗ to make sure to give the background on

55:10 ↗ as many different cities as we have but

55:12 ↗ we are really the first ones having this

55:14 ↗ conversation so lucky you let's start

55:17 ↗ with our list I believe I have council

55:20 ↗ member Marts up first thank you Madame

55:22 ↗ mayor this is council member Marts I I

55:24 ↗ have a number of questions um some are

55:28 ↗ just I think clarifying for members of

55:31 ↗ the public um first off uh how much

55:34 ↗ money uh are we talking about uh would

55:38 ↗ this tax generate in Revenue per

55:41 ↗ year um council member Mars members of

55:43 ↗ the council the sea has done a a a quick

55:46 ↗ assessment and their estimation for is

55:49 ↗ cause about $1.7 million a

55:51 ↗ year thank you the second question is

55:54 ↗ ab5 90 puts limits on how this money

55:57 ↗ could be used can you describe how we

55:59 ↗ might um in what ways we might be able

56:01 ↗ to use it towards the uh isqua Transit

56:04 ↗ oriented development project

56:11 ↗ proposal i' like sorry go ahead s

56:14 ↗ administrator I was going to read from

56:17 ↗ the statute uh it will take me a moment

56:19 ↗ to find the

56:22 ↗ particular um section m would you like

56:25 ↗ me to read from the statute so I it's a

56:27 ↗ complete answer that would be great I

56:30 ↗ also would like to invite um Mr Flur to

56:34 ↗ comment because he did some research

56:35 ↗ today on um the Opportunity Center

56:38 ↗ proposal and may have some additional

56:40 ↗ information the administrator and then

56:42 ↗ we'll go to Leo certainly um so I'm

56:46 ↗ reading uh from the packet on page 118

56:50 ↗ uh from the bill itself um beginning on

56:54 ↗ on then page

56:58 ↗ 119 uh notwithstanding subsection 4

57:02 ↗ minimum of 60% of the monies collected

57:04 ↗ under this section must be used for the

57:05 ↗ following purposes uh constructing

57:08 ↗ affordable housing which may include new

57:09 ↗ units or affordable housing within an

57:12 ↗ existing structure and Facilities

57:13 ↗ providing housing related services or

57:16 ↗ two constructing mental and behavioral

57:19 ↗ health related facilities or three

57:21 ↗ funding the operations and maintenance

57:23 ↗ costs of new units of affordable housing

57:25 ↗ and Facilities where housing related

57:27 ↗ programs are provided or newly

57:28 ↗ constructed evaluation and treatment

57:31 ↗ centers um it goes on uh for more

57:34 ↗ specifics for those uses but council

57:36 ↗ member Mars I believe that answers your

57:38 ↗ question that the the the uses in the

57:41 ↗ Opportunity Center uh I think are are

57:44 ↗ covered under the section that I've

57:45 ↗ already read okay so could be used for

57:48 ↗ both housing directly and the ravar

57:50 ↗ around Services Associated yeah that

57:52 ↗ that's my reading of the of the law yes

57:54 ↗ sir

57:55 ↗ okay the the the third of my five

57:57 ↗ questions is um when last we talked

57:59 ↗ about the iscoa transit oriented

58:01 ↗ development project proposal um there

58:03 ↗ was a funding Gap can you describe the C

58:06 ↗ the funding Gap as we currently

58:08 ↗ understand it uh in talking with the

58:11 ↗ city staff working on this project we

58:13 ↗ believe that funding Gap is

58:14 ↗ approximately $2

58:15 ↗ million okay four question thank you my

58:19 ↗ fourth question is uh what would uh can

58:22 ↗ you describe a little bit more about the

58:23 ↗ timing if the is city council wants to

58:26 ↗ take action on this given that assuming

58:29 ↗ the county wants to take action on the

58:31 ↗ 13th what is our timeline look like yes

58:34 ↗ uh happy to do that and I'd like to ask

58:36 ↗ the City attorney Mr Haney uh to help

58:39 ↗ with this um our understanding in

58:42 ↗ reviewing the law is that the city

58:44 ↗ council would have to pass an ordinance

58:47 ↗ and that ordinance would have to be

58:49 ↗ effective prior to the King County

58:52 ↗ Council uh meeting on October 13th in

58:55 ↗ order to do that uh this evening the

58:58 ↗ city council would need to vote

59:00 ↗ affirmative Le for that ordinance uh the

59:02 ↗ ordinance then needs to be posted in a

59:05 ↗ newspaper of General circulation for

59:07 ↗ five days um and we are currently using

59:10 ↗ the Seattle Times as that newspaper of

59:13 ↗ General circulation in order for it to

59:15 ↗ appear f for five days uh we would need

59:18 ↗ to provide the Seattle Times with the

59:20 ↗ text of the ordinance no later than 3

59:22 ↗ p.m. tomorrow uh Mr Hane and and Miss

59:25 ↗ keer uh please correct me if I've stated

59:28 ↗ anything

59:29 ↗ incorrectly no you I think you've stated

59:32 ↗ it very well that uh in order for the

59:34 ↗ ordinance to become effective prior to

59:36 ↗ the council meeting it's got to be

59:38 ↗ published tomorrow so your deadline is

59:40 ↗ tonight if you want to uh pass the uh

59:44 ↗ the ordinance and make it effective

59:46 ↗ prior to King County taking the action

59:49 ↗ on the

59:51 ↗ 13th thank you and and I I appreciate

59:54 ↗ the for par and so many questions my

59:56 ↗ last one is for Leo Flur um and it's

59:59 ↗ really hearing the um uh sort of the the

1:00:04 ↗ questions that we have my understanding

1:00:06 ↗ is you you've been researching a little

1:00:08 ↗ bit about uh our project proposal um is

1:00:11 ↗ there

1:00:12 ↗ anything you can help us understand

1:00:15 ↗ about uh where K county is going and

1:00:17 ↗ what we're trying to

1:00:20 ↗ do uh thank you council member again uh

1:00:23 ↗ Leo FL from King Count's Department of

1:00:24 ↗ community and Human Services uh the just

1:00:28 ↗ to build upon uh the city

1:00:29 ↗ administrator's comments on eligible

1:00:31 ↗ uses uh it is correct that the

1:00:34 ↗ underlying statute really sort of

1:00:35 ↗ divides into two categories uh one is

1:00:39 ↗ the construction of affordable housing

1:00:42 ↗ or what the statute calls uh uh

1:00:45 ↗ facilities for Behavioral Health uh and

1:00:47 ↗ then the other category is uh really

1:00:50 ↗ housing related Services uh and

1:00:52 ↗ Behavioral Health Services as I

1:00:55 ↗ understand uh the project which the

1:00:57 ↗ county does support um in fact the uh

1:01:00 ↗ $10 million allocation uh in support of

1:01:03 ↗ the project is actually I learned today

1:01:05 ↗ the single largest uh uh uh contribution

1:01:09 ↗ to a single project that we have out in

1:01:11 ↗ the field right now um the uh as I took

1:01:15 ↗ a look at it I really understand that

1:01:16 ↗ there are physical and behavioral health

1:01:18 ↗ components uh to the project I think the

1:01:20 ↗ behavioral health components we see a

1:01:22 ↗ very clearly fit Within

1:01:25 ↗ uh the uh part of the the statute that

1:01:27 ↗ would allow for that to the extent that

1:01:29 ↗ there are capital costs that are

1:01:30 ↗ associated with the construction for use

1:01:32 ↗ of physical uh Health uh which does not

1:01:36 ↗ fit within Behavioral Health uh at least

1:01:38 ↗ in the way that we typically administer

1:01:40 ↗ the two uh that really I think would

1:01:42 ↗ have to fall into that category of

1:01:43 ↗ housing related services and therefore

1:01:45 ↗ be uh limited to no more than 40% of the

1:01:49 ↗ overall uh costs as I took a look at the

1:01:53 ↗ project I think uh what I something that

1:01:56 ↗ I I don't know there are many things I

1:01:57 ↗ don't know one thing I don't know is the

1:01:59 ↗ apportionment of the $2 million gap that

1:02:01 ↗ uh you have identified your project uh

1:02:03 ↗ and what of that is proportionable to

1:02:05 ↗ physical health uh Capital costs and

1:02:07 ↗ what of that is proportionable to uh the

1:02:10 ↗ the behavioral health costs and I think

1:02:12 ↗ uh the reason I really wanted to

1:02:14 ↗ understand that in Greater detail is I

1:02:16 ↗ think it speaks to the amount of time

1:02:17 ↗ that would have to transpire in order to

1:02:20 ↗ sort of accumulate sufficient funding at

1:02:23 ↗ a city level imp position to allow to

1:02:25 ↗ move forward uh if this were only sort

1:02:29 ↗ of city funded uh I can say that uh at

1:02:33 ↗ the county level again I think this is

1:02:35 ↗ exactly the type of project uh that we

1:02:38 ↗ have funded to date exactly the type of

1:02:41 ↗ project uh that we are interested in

1:02:42 ↗ continuing to fund particularly uh in

1:02:45 ↗ eastern King County where uh uh we are

1:02:48 ↗ seeing that we have more types of these

1:02:50 ↗ projects uh going historically we

1:02:52 ↗ certainly see that there is the need um

1:02:54 ↗ but there historically has not been a

1:02:56 ↗ lot of them and so I think we are very

1:02:58 ↗ interested in uh uh helping this project

1:03:01 ↗ be successful and I think that's one of

1:03:03 ↗ the reasons why you see that level of

1:03:04 ↗ financial investment so far from the

1:03:06 ↗ county uh so that was really uh I think

1:03:10 ↗ my what I would add to the city

1:03:11 ↗ administrator's analysis is that when we

1:03:14 ↗ begin to apply the ratios of what types

1:03:16 ↗ of things could be funded not knowing

1:03:18 ↗ specifically the amount of the cost that

1:03:19 ↗ would be apportionable again to physical

1:03:21 ↗ versus Behavioral Health that I think

1:03:23 ↗ affects the amount of time it would take

1:03:24 ↗ to accumulate enough money to to

1:03:26 ↗ complete the

1:03:27 ↗ project thank you thank you Leo and

1:03:30 ↗ council member marz if I could follow up

1:03:32 ↗ a slight correction to what our city

1:03:34 ↗ administrator said the actual City cost

1:03:36 ↗ for the opportunity center right now is

1:03:38 ↗ 5.05 million the reason we're using the

1:03:41 ↗ $2 million number is because the state

1:03:43 ↗ has agreed to contribute $3 million and

1:03:46 ↗ so if there were to be a breakdown of

1:03:49 ↗ physical versus Behavioral Health um it

1:03:52 ↗ is very likely that the King County

1:03:53 ↗ portion would be able to fund a

1:03:55 ↗ significant amount of that based on the

1:03:58 ↗ total of $5 million so just just a

1:04:00 ↗ slightly different math but as the

1:04:02 ↗ project is still in proposal phase and

1:04:04 ↗ we're still working on um agreements uh

1:04:08 ↗ we don't have that breakdown right now

1:04:09 ↗ but anyway just to pain the numbers a

1:04:12 ↗ little

1:04:13 ↗ bit and council member Marts I'm going

1:04:16 ↗ to move on to

1:04:19 ↗ um council member D Michelle followed by

1:04:22 ↗ council president hunt

1:04:25 ↗ um mayor Paulie I don't have any

1:04:27 ↗ questions I have a comment and so I

1:04:29 ↗ would defer to council president hunt if

1:04:31 ↗ she wants to go before me sounds great

1:04:35 ↗ um and I think what we'll do for

1:04:38 ↗ comments is if we're getting to a part

1:04:40 ↗ where we're going to actually have a

1:04:41 ↗ deliberation we should be doing that

1:04:43 ↗ after the motion so thank you council

1:04:45 ↗ member D Michelle um council member uh

1:04:48 ↗ council president

1:04:50 ↗ hunt thank you this is council president

1:04:52 ↗ hunt I had a question when which I

1:04:54 ↗ believe um would be for Leo which is

1:04:58 ↗ about how the county plans to align the

1:05:01 ↗ use of this tax with Arch the um the

1:05:04 ↗ regional body that we work with to

1:05:06 ↗ address affordable

1:05:10 ↗ housing uh thank you council president

1:05:12 ↗ hunt uh King County's position with

1:05:15 ↗ respect to arches is one of just strong

1:05:18 ↗ support at a at a fundamental level we

1:05:21 ↗ are members of arch we are funders of

1:05:22 ↗ arch um and I think as we look into the

1:05:25 ↗ future what we really see is that there

1:05:27 ↗ are two Regional collaborations within

1:05:30 ↗ King County that are really I think

1:05:32 ↗ doing important work to identify local

1:05:35 ↗ context and be able to provide local

1:05:37 ↗ control um while still achieving scale

1:05:41 ↗ uh that we get with regional Solutions

1:05:42 ↗ and so with both Arch and skip a similar

1:05:45 ↗ organization in South King County uh we

1:05:48 ↗ believe that uh we we should and would

1:05:51 ↗ would and have proposed in the ordinance

1:05:54 ↗ before the King County Council uh active

1:05:56 ↗ collaboration with Arch uh both in the

1:05:59 ↗ creation of sub Regional planning but

1:06:00 ↗ also uh uh I think importantly in

1:06:03 ↗ decisions around sighting of facilities

1:06:06 ↗ um and I think it's a really important

1:06:08 ↗ way to make sure that uh the county is

1:06:11 ↗ not uh you know at the County Seat

1:06:14 ↗ making uh decisions that really require

1:06:16 ↗ local context and Arch has been a

1:06:18 ↗ wonderful partner in that work and we

1:06:20 ↗ would continue uh to both work with and

1:06:23 ↗ hope to grow our support for

1:06:26 ↗ Arch thank you Leo and thank you for

1:06:29 ↗ that question council president hunt did

1:06:30 ↗ you have any other

1:06:32 ↗ questions not at this time thank

1:06:35 ↗ you so I am not seeing any other

1:06:37 ↗ additional questions in the chat box

1:06:40 ↗ except now that I am because council

1:06:41 ↗ member Hall put one in there council

1:06:43 ↗ member Hall thanks mayor paully uh

1:06:46 ↗ council member Zach all here just a

1:06:47 ↗ really quick clarifying question for

1:06:49 ↗ either Jim Haney or C attorney or city

1:06:52 ↗ administrator uh and that is um if the

1:06:57 ↗ council were to choose to move forward

1:06:59 ↗ with this ordinance um

1:07:03 ↗ either just the ordinance as it is or

1:07:07 ↗ with some sort of language repealing it

1:07:10 ↗ after X days or whatever um does the I

1:07:15 ↗ guess this is just more of a city

1:07:16 ↗ council Logistics question does the city

1:07:18 ↗ council reserve the right to resend this

1:07:20 ↗ ordinance at any point in time in the

1:07:22 ↗ future

1:07:25 ↗ absolutely uh any ordinance of the city

1:07:28 ↗ of isqua can be resented by the isqua

1:07:31 ↗ city council with appropriate notice uh

1:07:33 ↗ at a at a regularly scheduled meeting so

1:07:36 ↗ um that's there I know there has been

1:07:37 ↗ some discussion among members of the

1:07:39 ↗ council uh wishing to consider uh some

1:07:42 ↗ language that would be added uh to the

1:07:44 ↗ ordinance uh either uh to ensure that

1:07:47 ↗ King County indeed did uh pass such a

1:07:50 ↗ countywide ordinance or also otherwise

1:07:52 ↗ to deal with a future discussions with

1:07:54 ↗ the county to ensure that those

1:07:56 ↗ discussions were completed uh prior to

1:07:58 ↗ perhaps then repealing that ordinance so

1:08:01 ↗ um I think that's really up for the

1:08:03 ↗ council to discuss further this evening

1:08:05 ↗ uh Amendment certainly could be

1:08:08 ↗ added and City administrator Bob critz

1:08:10 ↗ we have a couple more questions lining

1:08:12 ↗ up but if the council does put the

1:08:15 ↗ ordinance into effect uh when does the

1:08:18 ↗ pro when does the 0.1% property tax

1:08:20 ↗ begin to get

1:08:21 ↗ collected uh the 0.1% sales tax would be

1:08:24 ↗ collected would be collected beginning

1:08:26 ↗ January 1st uh another factor to this uh

1:08:30 ↗ is that the state of Washington has uh

1:08:33 ↗ specific dates in the year uh where

1:08:35 ↗ governing bodies can adjust the sales

1:08:37 ↗ tax uh and that date is coming up I

1:08:40 ↗ believe in uh March 15th or March 16th

1:08:43 ↗ so that's another uh Factor not only for

1:08:45 ↗ this Council but also for the King

1:08:47 ↗ County Council that if they wish to

1:08:49 ↗ begin collecting the tax starting

1:08:51 ↗ January 1st with that deadline uh with

1:08:53 ↗ state of Washington is coming up thank

1:08:55 ↗ you and we have another question from

1:08:58 ↗ council member

1:08:59 ↗ Marts thank you Madame mayor this is

1:09:01 ↗ council member Marts so uh I'm still a

1:09:05 ↗ little murky um I we did receive uh an

1:09:09 ↗ email from King County council president

1:09:13 ↗ one of the challenges we have is all

1:09:14 ↗ this is happening so quickly on an on a

1:09:17 ↗ and any time of course anytime we ever

1:09:19 ↗ want to consider a tax uh we want to

1:09:21 ↗ measure twice and cut once

1:09:24 ↗ um uh Council King County council

1:09:26 ↗ president balduchi said in her

1:09:29 ↗ note uh I can I can guarantee that we

1:09:33 ↗ will not be taking a final vote on this

1:09:35 ↗ sales tax measure at our Council until

1:09:37 ↗ Tuesday October 13th so if more time

1:09:39 ↗ would help to get to a level of comfort

1:09:41 ↗ you can rely on the county to support

1:09:43 ↗ your project and make it happen if to

1:09:46 ↗ get to that point please know that you

1:09:47 ↗ can take a few days to a week and still

1:09:49 ↗ have time to vote before we do but I

1:09:51 ↗ don't think that's what I heard today on

1:09:55 ↗ timing I mean it sounds like what I

1:09:57 ↗ heard today was use it or lose it today

1:10:00 ↗ so I'm trying to understand County

1:10:02 ↗ council president Baluchi's comments to

1:10:06 ↗ us in that

1:10:08 ↗ context let let me take a stab and I'll

1:10:10 ↗ ask Mr Haney to help um in order for a

1:10:14 ↗ regular ordinance of the city of isqua

1:10:16 ↗ city council to be adopted uh there is a

1:10:19 ↗ requirement of 5 days uh for posting of

1:10:22 ↗ that ordinance before the uh ordinance

1:10:24 ↗ can become effective um there are other

1:10:27 ↗ ways to adopt ordinances both for the

1:10:29 ↗ city of isqua and for King County uh an

1:10:32 ↗ emergency uh could be uh used and so the

1:10:36 ↗ effective date becomes immediate I am

1:10:38 ↗ not sure what King County council's

1:10:41 ↗ plans are for their adoption um if they

1:10:44 ↗ are plan to use an existing emergency

1:10:47 ↗ they have a existing emergency regarding

1:10:50 ↗ homelessness that has been in place for

1:10:51 ↗ some time um they may be choosing to do

1:10:54 ↗ that uh but the action of the isqua city

1:10:58 ↗ council in adopting an ordinance does

1:11:00 ↗ not provide immediate effectiveness of

1:11:03 ↗ that ordinance it has to have that

1:11:04 ↗ five-day uh period so perhaps the

1:11:07 ↗ council uh King County council president

1:11:09 ↗ was unaware of that or was assuming that

1:11:12 ↗ the esot council was planning to use an

1:11:14 ↗ emergency in talking with the city

1:11:17 ↗ attorney uh we are not certain that an

1:11:20 ↗ emergency adoption of this type of

1:11:22 ↗ ordinance uh is appropriate um certainly

1:11:26 ↗ Mr Haney can speak further to that uh

1:11:28 ↗ but uh we would believe that a this

1:11:30 ↗ would need to be treated as a regular

1:11:32 ↗ ordinance and that five-day publication

1:11:35 ↗ requirement would still be

1:11:38 ↗ required Mr

1:11:40 ↗ Hy the city administrator is correct we

1:11:43 ↗ had some concerns about making this an

1:11:45 ↗ emergency uh and so in order to make it

1:11:49 ↗ effective prior to the 13th of uh

1:11:54 ↗ October today would be the last date for

1:11:57 ↗ you to actually act on it what the

1:12:00 ↗ county uh council president may be may

1:12:03 ↗ be indicating is that if they do not

1:12:05 ↗ make their ordinance an emergency on the

1:12:08 ↗ 13th and their ordinance does not become

1:12:10 ↗ effective for some time thereafter you

1:12:13 ↗ may have chance a chance to do that but

1:12:15 ↗ there's no no understanding on our part

1:12:18 ↗ uh as to when they're going to make

1:12:20 ↗ their ordinance effective and when the

1:12:23 ↗ City administrator and I talked about it

1:12:26 ↗ uh there was some concern that the

1:12:27 ↗ county may make its ordinance effective

1:12:29 ↗ as an emergency given their emergency

1:12:31 ↗ declaration relating to homelessness so

1:12:35 ↗ that's why it's been brought forward in

1:12:36 ↗ the in the uh form that it

1:12:39 ↗ is maybe we should check in with Leo

1:12:42 ↗ Flur to see if he has any information on

1:12:45 ↗ that and then we have a question from

1:12:47 ↗ Deputy council president

1:12:49 ↗ Ray

1:12:52 ↗ hello uh thank you mayor Paulie uh just

1:12:54 ↗ very quickly uh I I do not uh uh have

1:12:58 ↗ any more advanced information the

1:13:00 ↗ ordinance and its current form before

1:13:02 ↗ the King County Council uh is not an

1:13:04 ↗ emergency ordinance uh and I do believe

1:13:07 ↗ that other cities I I I certainly will

1:13:09 ↗ not attempt to give legal advice uh here

1:13:12 ↗ uh other cities have been looking at

1:13:14 ↗ whether or not to enact uh an ordinance

1:13:16 ↗ under this Authority as an emergency and

1:13:18 ↗ also have been looking at notice

1:13:20 ↗ requirements and some have uh come up

1:13:22 ↗ with different interpret ations I have

1:13:24 ↗ no opinion or knowledge of which of

1:13:26 ↗ those is

1:13:27 ↗ correct does that help council member

1:13:30 ↗ Mars thank you it does okay uh let's go

1:13:34 ↗ to Deputy council president Ray uh thank

1:13:37 ↗ you mayor paully Chris Ray uh we've been

1:13:39 ↗ talking a lot about timing and so I need

1:13:41 ↗ some help in understanding the urgency

1:13:44 ↗ of this so if the King County Council

1:13:47 ↗ doesn't take action on the 13th as we

1:13:50 ↗ anticipate then there is a question in

1:13:53 ↗ this trust me um then uh we have time to

1:13:57 ↗ take action um so my my question really

1:14:00 ↗ is are we feeling we need to take

1:14:03 ↗ immediate action because we want to

1:14:05 ↗ ensure we have local control over this

1:14:07 ↗ 1.1% funding um that's um authorized by

1:14:11 ↗ the by the house bill is that is that

1:14:14 ↗ the the driver we've got here because we

1:14:16 ↗ don't

1:14:17 ↗ know I'm just trying to wrap my brain

1:14:19 ↗ around the urgency and it seems to me

1:14:21 ↗ like we're we're we're we're moving

1:14:23 ↗ really fast because we want to have

1:14:24 ↗ local control over the dollars um the

1:14:26 ↗ tax revenue is that is that a fair

1:14:28 ↗ assumption I'm

1:14:30 ↗ making uh this is the mayor I would say

1:14:33 ↗ yes and I think there's a Counterpoint

1:14:35 ↗ to that question as well um there's a

1:14:37 ↗ reason that the county is going out and

1:14:40 ↗ talking to cities and trying to have a

1:14:42 ↗ regional approach and I think Leo could

1:14:45 ↗ probably address it and it is that the

1:14:47 ↗ plan that the county presents assumes

1:14:50 ↗ that they can use this funding to

1:14:52 ↗ Leverage $400 million to complete the

1:14:55 ↗ plan that they've presented and for all

1:14:58 ↗ those that pull out and do something on

1:15:00 ↗ their own the ability of the county to

1:15:03 ↗ execute on their plan begins to diminish

1:15:06 ↗ and so um maybe we should go to council

1:15:10 ↗ member hall or D Michelle or Mark who

1:15:12 ↗ were the three that were proposing it

1:15:14 ↗ they can provide some commentary on that

1:15:16 ↗ and then I think we should go to King

1:15:17 ↗ County to talk about the impacts of

1:15:19 ↗ cities pulling out and taking it

1:15:22 ↗ themselves so uh who would like to

1:15:27 ↗ start council member D

1:15:29 ↗ Michelle um I would be happy to start

1:15:33 ↗ but I'm wondering if we should put the

1:15:34 ↗ motion on the table first and then start

1:15:38 ↗ comments I think I don't think Chris is

1:15:41 ↗ commenting I think he's asking a

1:15:42 ↗ question oh okay then yeah no this

1:15:45 ↗ definitely just I'm just curious what

1:15:47 ↗ the driver is

1:15:52 ↗ yeah uh uh I can explain why I was uh

1:15:56 ↗ supportive of putting this on the

1:15:57 ↗ discussion tonight um and if you'll

1:16:01 ↗ indulge me I it may be a kind of

1:16:04 ↗ Meandering but I will come to the point

1:16:07 ↗ um it has historically been that isqua

1:16:12 ↗ pays uh Human Service taxes to the state

1:16:16 ↗ and to the

1:16:17 ↗ county um and we don't often get that

1:16:21 ↗ full amount of money that we pay back

1:16:24 ↗ and uh there are reasons for that we're

1:16:26 ↗ a small City we're also perceived as

1:16:29 ↗ being uh affluent uh City where there

1:16:32 ↗ may not be any poverty which of course

1:16:34 ↗ we all know that that's not the case and

1:16:38 ↗ um so what does that mean for the people

1:16:41 ↗ in our community who are poor and who

1:16:43 ↗ are from marginalized communities what

1:16:46 ↗ it often means is that if they're going

1:16:48 ↗ to try and access Human

1:16:50 ↗ Services um they need to travel and they

1:16:53 ↗ either travel to Seattle or in uh my

1:16:57 ↗ experience because I was on the board at

1:16:58 ↗ the together Center in Redmond they

1:17:01 ↗ traveled 20 miles to Redmond to access

1:17:03 ↗ Services there um we don't have a lot of

1:17:07 ↗ uh a lot of services we have more now

1:17:09 ↗ than we used to but um in relation to

1:17:13 ↗ the taxes that we paid over the years we

1:17:15 ↗ don't have a lot and so what this means

1:17:17 ↗ for people in our community who are poor

1:17:19 ↗ or marginalized uh they um may be worse

1:17:23 ↗ off in some ways than they would be if

1:17:26 ↗ they were living in Seattle or in South

1:17:28 ↗ King

1:17:29 ↗ County um and um so this when I heard

1:17:36 ↗ about this particular

1:17:38 ↗ proposal um it certainly spoke to the

1:17:41 ↗ desire to have to exert more

1:17:44 ↗ control uh to make sure that the taxes

1:17:47 ↗ we pay here in Isa are going to actually

1:17:50 ↗ be used to benefit those in squa who

1:17:53 ↗ need them um and I think that it's

1:17:57 ↗ important to remember that um exerting

1:18:02 ↗ that control means that we will at some

1:18:04 ↗ point have a public process we will at

1:18:07 ↗ some time have a deliberation we can

1:18:10 ↗ decide at that point that we want to

1:18:12 ↗ spend the money locally we could also

1:18:14 ↗ decide that we want to spend it

1:18:17 ↗ regionally if we think it would benefit

1:18:19 ↗ our

1:18:20 ↗ community um and uh it puts us more in

1:18:24 ↗ the driver's seat uh whereas we have

1:18:27 ↗ often been in the in the situation of

1:18:31 ↗ putting in taxes and then having very

1:18:33 ↗ very little control over how they are

1:18:35 ↗ spent and seeing that often they don't

1:18:38 ↗ come back here to help the people in our

1:18:40 ↗ community and we do have people in our

1:18:42 ↗ community who are in need and really

1:18:45 ↗ could benefit from having a more robust

1:18:48 ↗ Human Service presence in the isqua area

1:18:51 ↗ so that's the reason I was very happy to

1:18:55 ↗ support putting this on the agenda for

1:18:57 ↗ discussion so um so sorry council member

1:19:00 ↗ Ray that was a very long Meandering

1:19:02 ↗ answer but yes it comes down to control

1:19:05 ↗ uh I um I would like to see us insert

1:19:08 ↗ more control over where those dollars

1:19:10 ↗ are

1:19:19 ↗ going mayor you're

1:19:21 ↗ muted

1:19:25 ↗ thanks um so thank you for that council

1:19:28 ↗ member D Michelle I think that captures

1:19:30 ↗ the motivation of at the there were

1:19:34 ↗ three council members who asked that

1:19:36 ↗ this also come to this meeting this

1:19:37 ↗ evening um if the two other council

1:19:39 ↗ members would like to supplement that

1:19:41 ↗ with any different information that

1:19:42 ↗ would be fine but I do want to be

1:19:44 ↗ careful that we're not ending up into a

1:19:46 ↗ debate at this point in time until a

1:19:47 ↗ motion is made and I also would like

1:19:49 ↗ King County director Flor to talk about

1:19:53 ↗ the impact to the county proposal if

1:19:55 ↗ cities were to um take the tax

1:19:58 ↗ themselves so council member Marts I

1:20:00 ↗ think you add something you wanted to

1:20:02 ↗ add thank you Madame mayor this is

1:20:04 ↗ council member Mars I just wanted to add

1:20:05 ↗ that one of the reasons that I thought

1:20:08 ↗ isqua should have this conversation

1:20:10 ↗ today was this 30% that um the mayor and

1:20:14 ↗ City administrator Bitz both referred to

1:20:17 ↗ um there's a provision for cities over

1:20:19 ↗ 60,000 people um and of course we're

1:20:22 ↗ just in that uncomfortable spot we're a

1:20:24 ↗ little bit too small we're a big enough

1:20:26 ↗ City that we have these serious Human

1:20:28 ↗ Service needs but we're not big enough

1:20:29 ↗ to meet that 30% engine um so it just

1:20:33 ↗ leaves us in a very weird position um so

1:20:37 ↗ that's why I wanted to bring this it's

1:20:38 ↗ one of the main reasons why I wanted to

1:20:40 ↗ bring this issue forward thank you thank

1:20:42 ↗ you council member Hall did you want to

1:20:43 ↗ add anything to that sure mayor paully

1:20:46 ↗ this is council member Hall just to say

1:20:48 ↗ that um it was really important to me

1:20:52 ↗ that we in the the very least have a

1:20:53 ↗ discussion about if this is something

1:20:55 ↗ worth exploring at at city level um even

1:20:59 ↗ at the point where we suggested that

1:21:02 ↗ this be on um the agenda for today's

1:21:06 ↗ meeting I had no idea where I would land

1:21:08 ↗ and I just was very interested in what

1:21:12 ↗ us as a council would think about moving

1:21:14 ↗ forward because it was so um the time is

1:21:18 ↗ the time crunch is so shortened here so

1:21:21 ↗ I hope that helped a little bit includ

1:21:23 ↗ including the comments made by council

1:21:25 ↗ member D Michelle and Mars it does help

1:21:27 ↗ thanks and I wonder director Flor if you

1:21:31 ↗ would be able to provide some

1:21:32 ↗ information on the County's proposal um

1:21:35 ↗ it obviously assumed that all cities in

1:21:38 ↗ the county would contribute different we

1:21:40 ↗ happen to be a city that is blessed with

1:21:42 ↗ a high sales tax which is awesome but a

1:21:45 ↗ smaller population and how do these

1:21:48 ↗ decisions impact the County's

1:21:51 ↗ proposal uh thank you Madame mayor uh so

1:21:54 ↗ the uh overall impetus for the uh way

1:21:59 ↗ that the executive has made this

1:22:01 ↗ proposal uh really stems back to you

1:22:03 ↗ know really a directive of his uh to me

1:22:07 ↗ which is what is the thing that we can

1:22:09 ↗ do that gets thousands of people out of

1:22:14 ↗ tents off of streets and into homes

1:22:18 ↗ using what we have learned from the co

1:22:20 ↗ emergency where we've learned quite a

1:22:21 ↗ bit about what were and what doesn't uh

1:22:24 ↗ and so in looking at this uh the

1:22:26 ↗ underlying State Statute does allow up

1:22:29 ↗ to half of the proceeds of the sales tax

1:22:31 ↗ to be used for costs associated with

1:22:33 ↗ bonding but no more than half uh and so

1:22:36 ↗ when we uh came back with a proposal to

1:22:39 ↗ the executive uh the 2,000 persons

1:22:42 ↗ experiencing chronic homelessness number

1:22:44 ↗ really ties to a 400 million doll

1:22:47 ↗ ability to bond next year and so uh uh

1:22:51 ↗ we believe uh that using uh just less

1:22:54 ↗ than than half of the sales tax proceeds

1:22:56 ↗ as they are currently projected uh and

1:22:59 ↗ we do see as we have seen with the mid

1:23:01 ↗ which is another sales tax that sales

1:23:03 ↗ tax is sensitive to the economy and

1:23:04 ↗ fluctuates and can fluctuate very

1:23:06 ↗ quickly uh that and and often down

1:23:10 ↗ although rarely much higher than we

1:23:11 ↗ project uh that uh we could bond for

1:23:15 ↗ $400 million uh be able to go out and

1:23:18 ↗ immediately secure single room settings

1:23:20 ↗ which is really important um what we

1:23:22 ↗ have seen in the co emergency is that uh

1:23:25 ↗ shelter the way that we have

1:23:26 ↗ traditionally done it in the community

1:23:28 ↗ ended up being exactly the type of uh

1:23:30 ↗ setting in which disease spread quickly

1:23:33 ↗ um we also I think are seeing that it

1:23:35 ↗ was never really a great strategy to get

1:23:37 ↗ people into housing although it plays a

1:23:39 ↗ critical role sometimes in keeping

1:23:40 ↗ people alive uh and so uh 2,000 people

1:23:45 ↗ uh or 2,000 units single room settings

1:23:47 ↗ um plus the ability to provide

1:23:49 ↗ sufficient on on-site services to those

1:23:52 ↗ people uh and then to to do that in a

1:23:55 ↗ way where we were able to move folks

1:23:56 ↗ into facilities uh quickly uh as opposed

1:23:59 ↗ to years uh we believe that we can move

1:24:01 ↗ forward on this strategy in months uh

1:24:03 ↗ and we were able to prove that uh I

1:24:06 ↗ think with the uh covid hotels and some

1:24:08 ↗ other cities this is a different type of

1:24:10 ↗ Hotel use than is in issaqua but in

1:24:12 ↗ those cases we were able to get hundreds

1:24:14 ↗ of people uh off of streets or out of

1:24:16 ↗ shelters uh in days uh after signing

1:24:19 ↗ leases and so that's the the motivation

1:24:22 ↗ I think to to as cities were if cities

1:24:25 ↗ were to to reduce the overall

1:24:27 ↗ collections that are available to the

1:24:28 ↗ county uh it drives down uh at some

1:24:31 ↗ point it would begin to drive down the

1:24:33 ↗ ability to bond against Revenue uh and

1:24:35 ↗ then the other impact it would have is

1:24:37 ↗ the uh reduced number of amount of

1:24:40 ↗ funding that's available for the

1:24:42 ↗ services uh that are available I don't

1:24:44 ↗ want to uh over represent and I think

1:24:47 ↗ credibility is really important in this

1:24:49 ↗ conversation um I think uh I I am not

1:24:52 ↗ here to pretend that uh you know uh one

1:24:55 ↗ city uh makes the entire effort uh

1:24:58 ↗ crumble I think the executive uh is

1:25:00 ↗ clearly uh focused on this and and we

1:25:02 ↗ will be able you know we will move

1:25:04 ↗ forward no matter what and uh all of the

1:25:07 ↗ resources matter even if we house 2,000

1:25:09 ↗ people who are experiencing chronic

1:25:11 ↗ homelessness uh we will have more than

1:25:13 ↗ 2,000 uh who remain unhoused chronically

1:25:17 ↗ uh out of 12,000 people across the

1:25:19 ↗ county that we estimate on any given

1:25:21 ↗ night are homeless uh and we have every

1:25:23 ↗ reason to believe in King County that

1:25:26 ↗ homelessness is about to get worse not

1:25:28 ↗ better uh we have an economy and we have

1:25:31 ↗ a pandemic uh that we know are once in a

1:25:33 ↗ century events uh the amount of

1:25:36 ↗ evictions that are sort of being held

1:25:38 ↗ back by a moratorium right now we

1:25:40 ↗ believe that it's more than $180 million

1:25:42 ↗ of unpaid rent that was calculated about

1:25:44 ↗ two months ago uh and we uh see nothing

1:25:48 ↗ uh in the cards right now that is going

1:25:50 ↗ to fundamentally relieve that problem

1:25:53 ↗ and as as soon as these moratoriums are

1:25:54 ↗ done we expect that we're going to have

1:25:56 ↗ more folks that we're going to need to

1:25:57 ↗ be able to find housing not less and so

1:26:00 ↗ the scale and the immed immediacy from

1:26:02 ↗ the executives perspective uh were

1:26:05 ↗ really

1:26:06 ↗ important uh thank you that helps also

1:26:09 ↗ Mr Flur our director Flur I wonder um

1:26:12 ↗ from the conversation this morning with

1:26:14 ↗ the King County Executive there are at

1:26:17 ↗ least one other City similar to the city

1:26:20 ↗ of isqua where we

1:26:23 ↗ raise a significant amount of sales tax

1:26:25 ↗ um but we have populations under $60,000

1:26:29 ↗ and there was um comments made by the

1:26:32 ↗ executive this morning that that doesn't

1:26:35 ↗ mean that the county cannot commit to a

1:26:38 ↗ particular project or particular funding

1:26:41 ↗ in the city even though we don't hit

1:26:43 ↗ that threshold um could you talk a

1:26:45 ↗ little bit more about that

1:26:48 ↗ commitment uh yes madame mayor so the uh

1:26:52 ↗ underlying statute and then again a

1:26:54 ↗ language that's echoed in the county

1:26:56 ↗ proposal is that uh the county must plan

1:26:59 ↗ and plan is the verb to spend with any

1:27:01 ↗ City whose population exceeds 60,000 at

1:27:03 ↗ least 30% of the proceeds that are

1:27:06 ↗ attributable to that jurisdiction so it

1:27:08 ↗ is not an exclusive uh function in the

1:27:11 ↗ uh statute or the ordinance it is that

1:27:14 ↗ we must plan uh and so the executive is

1:27:17 ↗ right on that uh we not only can but I

1:27:21 ↗ think uh intend to expend funds uh

1:27:25 ↗ across the county and in fact one of the

1:27:27 ↗ things that we really see is that uh

1:27:29 ↗ with resources uh such as this sometimes

1:27:32 ↗ actually the problem is being able to

1:27:34 ↗ expend uh resources as opposed to to uh

1:27:38 ↗ cities fighting over access to the

1:27:40 ↗ resources um it is one of the just to

1:27:44 ↗ point it out uh I think isqua's

1:27:46 ↗ leadership in the isolation and

1:27:48 ↗ quarantine is really uh uh relevant uh

1:27:51 ↗ from the Cy's perspect perspective in

1:27:52 ↗ that way uh that not all cities uh would

1:27:55 ↗ like uh to have within their uh bounds

1:27:59 ↗ certain types of facilities um cities

1:28:01 ↗ get to make uh those decisions um and uh

1:28:05 ↗ I think we are going to be seeking

1:28:07 ↗ Partners who are eager uh to to be able

1:28:10 ↗ to provide services for folks

1:28:11 ↗ experiencing homelessness and folks

1:28:13 ↗ experiencing chronic homelessness and

1:28:15 ↗ that has been the pattern in previous

1:28:16 ↗ funding sources and I expect it will at

1:28:19 ↗ least be a subject of conversation with

1:28:20 ↗ this one thank you I am not seeing any

1:28:24 ↗ other questions in the Box I'm assuming

1:28:27 ↗ that somebody is prepared to make a

1:28:31 ↗ motion council member

1:28:35 ↗ Hall thank you mayor Paul this is Zach H

1:28:38 ↗ and someone should tell me if I'm

1:28:39 ↗ messing this up um I would like to

1:28:43 ↗ motion to adopt ordinance number

1:28:48 ↗ 2922 imposing an additional sales and

1:28:50 ↗ use tax of one tenth of 1% for housing

1:28:54 ↗ and related Services as authorized by

1:28:57 ↗ RCW

1:29:20 ↗ 82.14%

1:29:24 ↗ Madame mayor this is council member Mar

1:29:25 ↗ Al second thank you um and now we're

1:29:30 ↗ going to uh go to comments and

1:29:34 ↗ discussion um I'm first going to go to

1:29:37 ↗ the motion maker council member hall and

1:29:39 ↗ then I see council member Goodman has

1:29:42 ↗ asked to speak next council member

1:29:45 ↗ Hall sure thanks M paully this is uh

1:29:48 ↗ council member Zach Hall um I'll just

1:29:51 ↗ start by saying um I spent much of the

1:29:56 ↗ weekend and even the hours leading up to

1:29:58 ↗ this meeting uh connecting with just

1:30:01 ↗ over 20 uh community members in isqua I

1:30:04 ↗ do not take an ordinance like this

1:30:06 ↗ lightly and I wanted to make sure to

1:30:08 ↗ connect with as many people that I

1:30:10 ↗ consider Community leaders from GE

1:30:12 ↗ geographically diverse neighborhoods

1:30:14 ↗ across um isqua before um coming into

1:30:18 ↗ the meeting tonight

1:30:20 ↗ um

1:30:23 ↗ I

1:30:26 ↗ was I am comfortable making the motion

1:30:28 ↗ tonight and voting in favor of um this

1:30:33 ↗ ordinance because I heard from most

1:30:37 ↗ community members that I talked to that

1:30:39 ↗ if the County's planning to move forward

1:30:41 ↗ with the sales tax increase isqua

1:30:43 ↗ issaqua should follow suit retain

1:30:45 ↗ control those local dollars and use

1:30:47 ↗ those dollars to support our own

1:30:49 ↗ community's affordable housing and

1:30:50 ↗ Behavioral Health needs and many

1:30:52 ↗ community members that I talked to also

1:30:54 ↗ said that down the line that can be

1:30:56 ↗ changed um I spoke with uh someone that

1:30:59 ↗ um I value their advice very much

1:31:01 ↗ earlier today who said that if something

1:31:04 ↗ can be changed with an ordinance it can

1:31:05 ↗ be changed again with an ordinance later

1:31:08 ↗ um and I think that speaks to me in this

1:31:10 ↗ moment right now and um those are the

1:31:14 ↗ reasons why I made the motion tonight

1:31:16 ↗ thank you thank you council member Hall

1:31:18 ↗ council member

1:31:20 ↗ Goodman

1:31:24 ↗ thank you mayor Paulie um did you want

1:31:27 ↗ to ask the person who made the second to

1:31:30 ↗ speak or do you want me to go ahead sure

1:31:32 ↗ let's go to council member MZ thank you

1:31:35 ↗ Madame mayor well it's a little

1:31:37 ↗ complicated because I actually have an

1:31:38 ↗ amendment that I would like to make but

1:31:40 ↗ I want to ask if council member Goodman

1:31:42 ↗ wants to speak before I make my

1:31:47 ↗ Amendment uh it it's fine with me um

1:31:50 ↗ okay I don't know what

1:31:53 ↗ your is but it might change my comments

1:31:57 ↗ but I suppose you can make your

1:31:58 ↗ Amendment and then I can make my

1:31:59 ↗ comments okay well I've put it up um it

1:32:02 ↗ basically appends uh to the end of the

1:32:07 ↗ motion uh an addendum that says uh but

1:32:10 ↗ repealing the sales and use tax if a a

1:32:13 ↗ memorandum of understanding covering at

1:32:14 ↗ least two million of isqua Transit

1:32:16 ↗ oriented development project tenant

1:32:18 ↗ improvements is signed with King County

1:32:20 ↗ or B if King County does not enact a

1:32:22 ↗ countywide one10 of 1% housing and

1:32:25 ↗ related Services tax in

1:32:28 ↗ 2020 is there a

1:32:31 ↗ second and if you're looking to read it

1:32:33 ↗ it's in the chat

1:32:36 ↗ box council member

1:32:38 ↗ Hall thanks my is council member Hall

1:32:41 ↗ I'll second the motion thank you council

1:32:43 ↗ member Mars do you want to speak to the

1:32:45 ↗ motion thank you um I

1:32:47 ↗ believe uh and this is a weird evening

1:32:51 ↗ and anybody help me if I'm wrong but I

1:32:54 ↗ believe this addresses the some of the

1:32:57 ↗ fundamental issues I'm hearing this

1:32:59 ↗ evening um this would do a couple of

1:33:01 ↗ things um it would give the county some

1:33:05 ↗ time to uh arrange a plan with us um but

1:33:10 ↗ would but would very quickly allow them

1:33:14 ↗ to plan on the additional Revenue that

1:33:16 ↗ they would receive from us um it would

1:33:20 ↗ um potentially funds uh an important

1:33:23 ↗ project that I believe uh hued to the

1:33:26 ↗ goals of um both the original State uh

1:33:30 ↗ both the original bill that went through

1:33:32 ↗ the legislature and what the County's

1:33:33 ↗ trying to do um and then it would also

1:33:36 ↗ for the residents of isqua um I want to

1:33:39 ↗ be very careful with the new tax and so

1:33:41 ↗ if um you know we're we're doing this

1:33:44 ↗ quickly because we think that um this is

1:33:47 ↗ going to happen and if it were to not

1:33:49 ↗ happen it would give some um comfort to

1:33:52 ↗ folks in isqua that this isn't something

1:33:54 ↗ that we would wind up sort of uh holding

1:33:57 ↗ the bag

1:33:59 ↗ on thank you and before we move on to um

1:34:05 ↗ council member Hall I'm going to go to

1:34:06 ↗ City attorney who has a comment I hope

1:34:08 ↗ it's a good comment and not telling us

1:34:11 ↗ that we're way out of our lane but we'll

1:34:13 ↗ see Mr

1:34:17 ↗ Haney no I I think uh council member

1:34:20 ↗ Mars uh and the council are not way out

1:34:22 ↗ of your lane but um I would suggest that

1:34:26 ↗ in order to make uh council member

1:34:29 ↗ martz's uh motion effective that you may

1:34:32 ↗ wish to amend the effective date Clause

1:34:35 ↗ of the ordinance uh and I can suggest

1:34:38 ↗ some language for that if you give me

1:34:41 ↗ just a moment to type it out in the chat

1:34:43 ↗ box so that would be great while you're

1:34:46 ↗ doing that um um before we get to that

1:34:49 ↗ amend Amendment to the amendment I'm

1:34:51 ↗ just going to see if we can get some

1:34:53 ↗ additional conversation going first so

1:34:55 ↗ council member Hall you seconded what

1:34:57 ↗ are your

1:35:01 ↗ thoughts sure mayor paully uh this is

1:35:04 ↗ council member Hall um I think council

1:35:06 ↗ member Mark said it really well and I

1:35:08 ↗ think that the amendment to the motion

1:35:11 ↗ um Falls in line with a lot of the

1:35:12 ↗ comments and concerns that I heard from

1:35:14 ↗ community members over the week thank

1:35:16 ↗ you very much and council member Walsh

1:35:19 ↗ has a question followed by council

1:35:20 ↗ member de

1:35:22 ↗ thank you this is council member m Walsh

1:35:25 ↗ the it's not that late I shouldn't be

1:35:28 ↗ fumbling my words yet uh so if I'm

1:35:33 ↗ reading this amendment right and the

1:35:36 ↗ calculation the estimate for our

1:35:39 ↗ potential income off of .1% sales tax

1:35:42 ↗ would be $1.7 million per

1:35:45 ↗ year then doesn't this amendment just

1:35:49 ↗ basically mean that rather than getting

1:35:51 ↗ $1.7 million per year we would only be

1:35:54 ↗ getting $2 million at a minimum for a

1:35:58 ↗ one-time

1:35:59 ↗ project that doesn't rock for me but is

1:36:05 ↗ that what that

1:36:06 ↗ means I think what it does this is the

1:36:08 ↗ mayor speaking I think what um council

1:36:11 ↗ member Marts is trying to do is to put a

1:36:14 ↗ bookmark on a project that's already in

1:36:16 ↗ progress and saying if it's a qualifier

1:36:19 ↗ under the county plan it should get

1:36:21 ↗ funding and we'd like an assurance of

1:36:24 ↗ that but the county uh wide funds

1:36:27 ↗ collected and the coordination with Arch

1:36:30 ↗ and other housing authorities doesn't

1:36:32 ↗ mean we're not getting anything out

1:36:34 ↗ anything else it just means we haven't

1:36:36 ↗ called out anything else

1:36:43 ↗ specific council member Marts is that

1:36:46 ↗ your r i I couldn't have said it better

1:36:49 ↗ better mayor thank you

1:36:52 ↗ uh council member Walsh did you have a

1:36:54 ↗ follow-up

1:36:56 ↗ question no I'll just

1:37:00 ↗ listen council member D Michelle

1:37:02 ↗ followed by Deputy council president Ray

1:37:05 ↗ thank you I had exactly the same

1:37:08 ↗ question and I guess uh to follow up on

1:37:11 ↗ council member Walsh's question then um

1:37:15 ↗ my understanding is when the county

1:37:17 ↗ imposes this tax there is no end date to

1:37:20 ↗ it is that

1:37:23 ↗ correct did administrator Bob

1:37:26 ↗ quitz yes my understanding is that there

1:37:29 ↗ is no uh Sunset date in the ordinance

1:37:32 ↗ that the county is considering so that

1:37:34 ↗ would would continue until such time

1:37:36 ↗ that King County would uh Council would

1:37:38 ↗ repeal it I also would imagine the

1:37:40 ↗ Washington State Legislature might be

1:37:42 ↗ able to pass legislation but no there's

1:37:44 ↗ no there's no end dat contemplated at

1:37:46 ↗ this

1:37:49 ↗ point deputy councel president R so I

1:37:53 ↗ think this is a comment might be a

1:37:54 ↗ question not really quite sure what it

1:37:56 ↗ is um the way I read this amendment or I

1:37:59 ↗ understand the intent of this amendment

1:38:01 ↗ is we're going to give up local control

1:38:03 ↗ but um in exchange we we want a g or

1:38:08 ↗ some assurances that we will have the

1:38:10 ↗ funding that um we could have gotten if

1:38:13 ↗ we had moved forward this to help fund

1:38:15 ↗ the transit oriented development project

1:38:18 ↗ but in the long term um this is to

1:38:20 ↗ council members D Michelle and Walsh um

1:38:23 ↗ this would not provide that local

1:38:25 ↗ control it's council member Mart is that

1:38:28 ↗ a u kind of what your intent was in this

1:38:33 ↗ or am I missing

1:38:35 ↗ something um I would say thank thank you

1:38:39 ↗ for the opportunity to answer that

1:38:40 ↗ question um Deputy council president uh

1:38:44 ↗ I I would say it's more as the mayor

1:38:47 ↗ stated it's I would have an expectation

1:38:50 ↗ that we would have a proportional

1:38:52 ↗ engagement with all the other cities in

1:38:55 ↗ King County um down the road as things

1:38:58 ↗ move forward but because we had a

1:39:00 ↗ project that has been simmering for five

1:39:02 ↗ years um I you know it's uh I want to

1:39:06 ↗ see that squared away I think that this

1:39:09 ↗ sales tax draws from a much larger

1:39:12 ↗ portion of King County than just the

1:39:14 ↗ city of isqua so um while we could

1:39:18 ↗ perhaps um keep all of it um I think our

1:39:22 ↗ history as a as a city shows that you

1:39:25 ↗ know in terms of Engagement with Arch

1:39:28 ↗ and in uh our adoption of the covid

1:39:31 ↗ shelter and our support for YWCA and our

1:39:35 ↗ ongoing and regular support for 10

1:39:37 ↗ cities I think we have been part of

1:39:39 ↗ regional Solutions and

1:39:42 ↗ uh you know if it's the will of this

1:39:44 ↗ body to to keep all that money I

1:39:48 ↗ understand it but I really um was trying

1:39:51 ↗ to support what the county is trying to

1:39:53 ↗ do while still honor a project that has

1:39:56 ↗ been gestating for a

1:40:00 ↗ while Deputy council president ra is and

1:40:02 ↗ answer your

1:40:04 ↗ question uh yeah can I make a just a

1:40:07 ↗ follow on

1:40:09 ↗ comment sure um I I I think this is

1:40:14 ↗ really effective because even though if

1:40:17 ↗ we were to do the 1% and would take the

1:40:20 ↗ one .7 million a year there's also a

1:40:23 ↗ requirement for some infrastructure to

1:40:25 ↗ administer that and one of the

1:40:28 ↗ opportunities for or advantages of um

1:40:32 ↗ having the county administer the entire

1:40:34 ↗ um bucket of money is the there's

1:40:37 ↗ economies of scale and so there will be

1:40:38 ↗ more dollars available for Direct

1:40:40 ↗ Services because there'll be less money

1:40:42 ↗ spent individually on um administering

1:40:45 ↗ the programs and so from my perspective

1:40:47 ↗ this this amendment goes a long ways to

1:40:50 ↗ to really driving some

1:40:54 ↗ important um initiatives here at the

1:40:56 ↗ city and at the same time gives the

1:40:58 ↗ county some control or um the economies

1:41:02 ↗ of scale and also helps us address these

1:41:05 ↗ problems regionally which is where I

1:41:06 ↗ kind of believe they they belong so I I

1:41:10 ↗ think this this makes good sense to

1:41:12 ↗ me thank you Deputy council president

1:41:15 ↗ Ray I believe next up is council

1:41:17 ↗ president

1:41:19 ↗ hunt thank you council president hunt on

1:41:22 ↗ the amendment I think this um does

1:41:25 ↗ fundamentally change the outcome of um

1:41:30 ↗ the original motion because I think from

1:41:33 ↗ my reading um from both the comments

1:41:35 ↗ that were made by Mr FL earlier as well

1:41:37 ↗ as my reading of the email that we

1:41:40 ↗ received by Council chair beluchi I

1:41:42 ↗ think that um she indicated that it is a

1:41:46 ↗ very strong commitment by the council

1:41:48 ↗ that they have already um earmarked $10

1:41:51 ↗ million for the transit oriented

1:41:52 ↗ development and indicating support of

1:41:55 ↗ this project by the county so I think

1:41:57 ↗ that it's very likely that um there is

1:42:00 ↗ that support and that this if the um

1:42:03 ↗ sales tax were to be implemented that

1:42:06 ↗ that project would be eligible based on

1:42:08 ↗ all the information presented this

1:42:09 ↗ evening and also that there support for

1:42:11 ↗ this as a very important Regional um

1:42:15 ↗ resource so I I think that um the appeal

1:42:21 ↗ part of the amendment is very likely to

1:42:23 ↗ happen um and also since I think that a

1:42:27 ↗ regional approach to homelessness and to

1:42:29 ↗ affordable housing makes a lot of sense

1:42:32 ↗ I I do believe that um plans at the

1:42:35 ↗ regional level for those

1:42:37 ↗ issues is appropriate so I am in support

1:42:41 ↗ of the amendment and I also appreciate

1:42:44 ↗ both the Amendments and the motion um

1:42:46 ↗ being brought forward it was very short

1:42:48 ↗ timing but I think it's been explained

1:42:49 ↗ this evening that for us to consider it

1:42:52 ↗ at all we really with any chance of

1:42:54 ↗ taking action we really had to had to um

1:42:57 ↗ act quickly and so that was the that was

1:43:00 ↗ the very reasonable reason for why this

1:43:02 ↗ was brought forward as quickly as it

1:43:04 ↗ was thank you council president hunt um

1:43:07 ↗ I am seeing an additional question but

1:43:10 ↗ before we move on I wonder if the clerk

1:43:13 ↗ could read the proposed edit to the

1:43:16 ↗ motion so that those people watching can

1:43:20 ↗ see it because not everybody can read

1:43:21 ↗ our chat box so city clerk could you

1:43:24 ↗ read uh what Mr Haney has proposed and

1:43:27 ↗ see if we get our mover and seconder to

1:43:32 ↗ agree yes the proposed um or potential

1:43:36 ↗ proposed amendment to the amendment

1:43:37 ↗ would be to add to the effective date

1:43:39 ↗ Clause this ordinance and the sales and

1:43:41 ↗ use tax imposed herein shall be

1:43:43 ↗ automatic repealed if a a memorandum of

1:43:46 ↗ understanding providing at least $2

1:43:47 ↗ million of funding for isqua transit or

1:43:50 ↗ un devel velopment project tenant

1:43:52 ↗ improvements is signed with King County

1:43:54 ↗ or B if King County does not enact a

1:43:57 ↗ countywide on10th of 1% housing and

1:44:00 ↗ related Services tax honor before

1:44:02 ↗ December 31

1:44:04 ↗ 2020 thank you um council member marks

1:44:07 ↗ do you agree with the edit yeah that was

1:44:10 ↗ going to be my question whether we could

1:44:11 ↗ treat it as a I don't know if it's a

1:44:13 ↗ scrier error or scrier change or

1:44:16 ↗ whatever whatever it is I it's I totally

1:44:18 ↗ fine with me it doesn't change the

1:44:21 ↗ point of yeah thank you and council

1:44:24 ↗ member Hall I believe you were the

1:44:25 ↗ second you agree with the change so we

1:44:28 ↗ will go back to discussing this

1:44:30 ↗ amendment and I believe we have a

1:44:31 ↗ question from council member marks no

1:44:34 ↗ that had been that had I you you you

1:44:36 ↗ anticipated my question by engaging Jim

1:44:39 ↗ thank you telepathy okay uh council

1:44:42 ↗ member D Michelle has a question though

1:44:45 ↗ thank you uh this question is for uh Jim

1:44:48 ↗ um does the on or before December excuse

1:44:53 ↗ me does the on or before December 31st

1:44:55 ↗ 2020 apply to both the A and the b in

1:44:59 ↗ that

1:45:01 ↗ Amendment or does it apply only to the

1:45:04 ↗ to the um B

1:45:08 ↗ part well the way it's drafted it

1:45:11 ↗ applies only to the B part but um and

1:45:15 ↗ and that was the way I understood the

1:45:16 ↗ proposed amendment from Miss from

1:45:18 ↗ council member marts

1:45:21 ↗ some head nods there from council member

1:45:23 ↗ Mars okay thank

1:45:25 ↗ you additional comments or questions

1:45:29 ↗ I'll give a few seconds for people to

1:45:31 ↗ use the

1:45:38 ↗ chats and let's go to Deputy council

1:45:41 ↗ president Ray thank you mayor paully

1:45:43 ↗ Chris Ray uh I'm confused a little bit

1:45:47 ↗ so and and tell me if this is intent but

1:45:49 ↗ B says that the County does not enact a

1:45:52 ↗ countywide one1 of 1%

1:45:54 ↗ housing uh and related Services tax

1:45:57 ↗ honor before December 31st that leads me

1:46:00 ↗ to say that if they don't um enact one

1:46:03 ↗ we would repeal this it seems to me that

1:46:06 ↗ we would

1:46:09 ↗ would um we wouldn't want to repeal this

1:46:11 ↗ if they're not enacting a countywide tax

1:46:15 ↗ I mean we want somebody to to be

1:46:18 ↗ enacting the tax I think

1:46:21 ↗ am I am I misreading this or no you're

1:46:24 ↗ reading it correctly that is a really

1:46:25 ↗ great question this is the mayor what it

1:46:28 ↗ allows you to do is to enact it at a

1:46:30 ↗ later date when you've had a chance to

1:46:32 ↗ go out to the community and talk about

1:46:36 ↗ what your plan is for doing it and then

1:46:39 ↗ having a vote so you don't lose the

1:46:40 ↗ right to enact it but it gives you time

1:46:43 ↗ it gives you time to kind of run the

1:46:45 ↗ process that you typically run instead

1:46:47 ↗ of what we're doing tonight which feels

1:46:49 ↗ really really quick got it you still

1:46:51 ↗ retain the rights thank you for the

1:46:54 ↗ clarification no worries and we will go

1:46:56 ↗ to council president hunt and then

1:46:58 ↗ council member

1:47:01 ↗ Marts thank you this is council

1:47:04 ↗ president hunt I um I just wanted to add

1:47:07 ↗ that I do think it's it would be a

1:47:10 ↗ fundamentally different conversation we

1:47:12 ↗ would be having if we were not so

1:47:15 ↗ strongly considering the very near in

1:47:18 ↗ the very near future that the King

1:47:19 ↗ County Council is very like to enact

1:47:21 ↗ this tax so um this is really responding

1:47:24 ↗ to that deadline and it's um it's

1:47:29 ↗ presupposing that they will make a

1:47:30 ↗ decision in within a couple weeks so I

1:47:33 ↗ think um I my comments would be very

1:47:36 ↗ different if we were all of a sudden

1:47:38 ↗ considering on for one evening um

1:47:40 ↗ imposing a sales tax without having had

1:47:43 ↗ any um priv previous discussion with the

1:47:46 ↗ community or anything else about it I

1:47:48 ↗ think that's that's important

1:47:51 ↗ context and we have a question from

1:47:53 ↗ council member

1:47:56 ↗ Goodman thank you um council member

1:47:59 ↗ Goodman here um can um perhaps um Mr FL

1:48:03 ↗ or somebody else remind

1:48:05 ↗ me um what the

1:48:08 ↗ County's um commitment is currently um

1:48:14 ↗ if the city were not to enact this tax

1:48:19 ↗ uh what the Count's commitment would be

1:48:21 ↗ to isqua to help with the deficit that

1:48:24 ↗ we have for the opportunity

1:48:28 ↗ Center if city does not take

1:48:31 ↗ control

1:48:42 ↗ of uh uh please let me know if you would

1:48:45 ↗ not like me to speak right now but I can

1:48:47 ↗ um council member Goodman um uh I I am

1:48:50 ↗ not uh uh here or or able to you know

1:48:54 ↗ definitively State on behalf of the

1:48:55 ↗ county that we will do a thing uh I

1:48:58 ↗ would certainly defer to uh the council

1:49:01 ↗ member Bal DUI's communication earlier

1:49:04 ↗ uh to members of the council uh and then

1:49:07 ↗ to again state that as a general matter

1:49:10 ↗ this uh one looks eligible um two can

1:49:14 ↗ County does have other funding sources

1:49:15 ↗ that are available to us uh for which

1:49:18 ↗ this would be an eligible expense uh and

1:49:20 ↗ three uh I think we are are are eager

1:49:23 ↗ and enthusiastic about partnership with

1:49:25 ↗ cities uh in uh your region of the

1:49:28 ↗ county um where we do see that there is

1:49:31 ↗ significant need as council member D

1:49:32 ↗ Michelle mentioned earlier um and we

1:49:35 ↗ don't yet see the same density of

1:49:37 ↗ support for those types of services as

1:49:39 ↗ we see uh in other regions of the County

1:49:42 ↗ so I will not overstate my ability to uh

1:49:45 ↗ my inability to commit uh the county um

1:49:47 ↗ and I will say that uh the executive I

1:49:50 ↗ think had conveyed enthusiasm for

1:49:52 ↗ support um and I believe that council

1:49:55 ↗ member balduchi uh has as

1:49:59 ↗ well thank

1:50:08 ↗ you may you're

1:50:12 ↗ mute okay I put another dollar in the

1:50:15 ↗ jar that's two for tonight there you go

1:50:18 ↗ um I'm not seeing any other comments or

1:50:21 ↗ questions in the Box although I will

1:50:23 ↗ give it a few more seconds and uh the

1:50:25 ↗ vote will be um on the

1:50:29 ↗ amendment uh so still not seeing

1:50:33 ↗ anybody okay so just to

1:50:36 ↗ clarify the Amendment states that this

1:50:39 ↗ ordinance and the sales and use tax

1:50:41 ↗ imposed herein shall be automatically

1:50:43 ↗ repealed if a a memorandum of

1:50:45 ↗ understanding providing at least 2

1:50:47 ↗ million of funding for isqua Transit

1:50:49 ↗ oriented development project pennant

1:50:51 ↗ improvements is signed with King County

1:50:53 ↗ or B if County does not enact a

1:50:56 ↗ countywide on10th of 1% housing and

1:50:59 ↗ related service tax honored before

1:51:01 ↗ December 31st 2020 and I will go to the

1:51:05 ↗ city clerk for a roll call

1:51:07 ↗ Vote Yes starting with council president

1:51:10 ↗ hunt

1:51:12 ↗ I council member Mars

1:51:15 ↗ I Deputy council president Ray I

1:51:20 ↗ council member

1:51:22 ↗ Walsh

1:51:24 ↗ nay council member D

1:51:27 ↗ Michelle

1:51:29 ↗ nay excuse me was that a nay yes thank

1:51:33 ↗ you council member

1:51:36 ↗ Goodman

1:51:38 ↗ I council member Hall

1:51:41 ↗ I that's five eyes two

1:51:45 ↗ nay thank you so that passes the 5 to2 I

1:51:49 ↗ have a question for the city clerk um

1:51:53 ↗ before I go back to council and ask

1:51:55 ↗ about comments on the main motion when I

1:51:57 ↗ reread it do I now read it with the

1:51:59 ↗ amendment when I read it into the

1:52:02 ↗ record version I think it'd be to

1:52:05 ↗ sufficient to just reference it as

1:52:07 ↗ amended okay thanks when you read it so

1:52:10 ↗ back to the council then any comments

1:52:12 ↗ question or additional discussion on the

1:52:15 ↗ proposed uh motion as

1:52:18 ↗ amended I have to scoop to the bottom

1:52:21 ↗ and

1:52:25 ↗ see okay council member

1:52:29 ↗ Goodman I'm seeing a comment at 855 so

1:52:32 ↗ I'm assuming that's

1:52:34 ↗ you thank you council member Goodman

1:52:36 ↗ here um so this

1:52:39 ↗ is so this is the amended main motion so

1:52:43 ↗ this is um when I had first had a

1:52:45 ↗ comment and then to I asked if he could

1:52:47 ↗ make an amendment and so we're back are

1:52:49 ↗ we back there

1:52:50 ↗ back there

1:52:53 ↗ okay oh it's only 5 to n oh joy um so

1:52:59 ↗ from you know from what I'm hearing here

1:53:01 ↗ that

1:53:02 ↗ um that I appreciate um Mr FL not having

1:53:08 ↗ the authority to make any kind of

1:53:09 ↗ commitment um but the county has been

1:53:11 ↗ unbelievably committed to the Tod

1:53:13 ↗ project what we heard from um uh Council

1:53:17 ↗ King County Council chair um Claudia

1:53:19 ↗ balduchi is that um of course she she

1:53:22 ↗ can't guarantee anything but very

1:53:24 ↗ confident we can get to a place we were

1:53:26 ↗ able to use County 1590 sales tax

1:53:29 ↗ revenue to fill the $2 million gap for

1:53:31 ↗ the tenant improvements in your project

1:53:33 ↗ she will fight for that I feel very good

1:53:35 ↗ that it will be supported and well

1:53:36 ↗ received by my colleagues on the County

1:53:38 ↗ Council um and also we heard that um uh

1:53:43 ↗ the county has Partnerships with the

1:53:44 ↗ cities in this region um where they see

1:53:47 ↗ there is a need um and enthusiastic

1:53:51 ↗ about um those

1:53:53 ↗ needs and I um appreciate the amendment

1:53:57 ↗ but um I'm not going to support this

1:53:59 ↗ tonight and I'm going to say why I I do

1:54:03 ↗ think that all we have to do is work

1:54:05 ↗ with the county um for the help with the

1:54:07 ↗ deficit I think all indications are

1:54:09 ↗ there um keeping in mind that this is

1:54:11 ↗ not an approved project although we've

1:54:13 ↗ been working at it it's not an approved

1:54:15 ↗ project um it's a proposed project at

1:54:18 ↗ this point and I have to say that I

1:54:24 ↗ am very very concerned um about voting

1:54:28 ↗ to impose a new tax with one weekend's

1:54:32 ↗ notice to the public with um zero

1:54:36 ↗ opportunity for the public to learn

1:54:37 ↗ about the relevant and meaningful

1:54:39 ↗ details I think we started off with a

1:54:41 ↗ comment tonight from the administration

1:54:44 ↗ that somehow this has been out there for

1:54:45 ↗ a week or two um I don't know where it's

1:54:47 ↗ been out there but the first time it

1:54:49 ↗ landed in my mailbox was um I believe it

1:54:52 ↗ was Friday maybe it was

1:54:54 ↗ Thursday but in any event the agenda

1:54:56 ↗ didn't come out till Friday um so again

1:54:59 ↗ zero opportunity for the public to learn

1:55:01 ↗ the relevant and meaningful details and

1:55:03 ↗ to weigh in in any kind of meaningful

1:55:06 ↗ way um again a new tax that would dilute

1:55:09 ↗ a collection by King County um that

1:55:12 ↗ would be spent on Regional issues that

1:55:14 ↗ should be supported with regional

1:55:16 ↗ dollars and I think that um a vote here

1:55:18 ↗ will come back to invite us in our rear

1:55:21 ↗ when we want to go out to our local

1:55:22 ↗ folks here in the future and ask if they

1:55:25 ↗ would tax themselves for transportation

1:55:27 ↗ projects um reminding all of us here

1:55:31 ↗ that the number one priority in our city

1:55:33 ↗ for 25 years is

1:55:36 ↗ transportation um also we are in the

1:55:38 ↗ middle of a pandemic and we with us

1:55:40 ↗ talking nearly every meeting for seven

1:55:43 ↗ months now about the financial hardships

1:55:45 ↗ that people are facing and I don't

1:55:47 ↗ really know what we're doing here

1:55:49 ↗ talking about new tax we have been

1:55:50 ↗ urging other agencies to lower their

1:55:52 ↗ fees and even tonight we mentioned

1:55:54 ↗ Cascade water Alliance and our City's

1:55:56 ↗ concerns about that agency raising their

1:55:59 ↗ existing rates yet we would seriously

1:56:01 ↗ consider imposing a new tax I really

1:56:04 ↗ think this is a terrible

1:56:05 ↗ process um and I guess I should correct

1:56:08 ↗ myself because I don't see that there is

1:56:10 ↗ any process so if King County Council

1:56:12 ↗ wants to impose a regional tax for

1:56:14 ↗ regional solutions to Regional problems

1:56:17 ↗ um then I think that that's great I

1:56:19 ↗ think it's great that they can use that

1:56:20 ↗ money to house um 2,000 houseless

1:56:25 ↗ people but taking that for ourselves um

1:56:29 ↗ does

1:56:30 ↗ not um I don't think that bodess well

1:56:33 ↗ for us um it means we're not a regional

1:56:35 ↗ partner um I don't think that helps our

1:56:37 ↗ relationship with King County so I won't

1:56:40 ↗ support this um and quite frankly I

1:56:44 ↗ again think this is terrible

1:56:46 ↗ government's model that we would come

1:56:47 ↗ out on a Friday and impose a new tax on

1:56:50 ↗ a Monday I really don't care what the

1:56:51 ↗ circumstances are um it's a little

1:56:53 ↗ shocking to me so I'm going to vote

1:56:56 ↗ no thank you council member Goodman I'm

1:56:59 ↗ looking for additional comments from any

1:57:01 ↗ other council members before we proceed

1:57:03 ↗ to the

1:57:07 ↗ vote and they are showing up council

1:57:10 ↗ president

1:57:14 ↗ hunt thank you this is council president

1:57:16 ↗ hunt one of my big concerns

1:57:20 ↗ um going into this which I still have is

1:57:23 ↗ that sales tax is a regressive tax it's

1:57:27 ↗ actually acknowledged in the um in our

1:57:30 ↗ packet materials in the health through

1:57:31 ↗ housing um documentation it says

1:57:34 ↗ attempts at more Progressive Revenue

1:57:36 ↗ sources have failed leaving the sales

1:57:39 ↗ tax as the only available tool um I do

1:57:43 ↗ fundamentally have a issue with using a

1:57:45 ↗ regressive tax which we would expect to

1:57:48 ↗ hurt um lower income people more um than

1:57:54 ↗ um than a more Progressive source of

1:57:56 ↗ Revenue um for this affordable housing

1:57:59 ↗ and for homelessness um so that's a

1:58:01 ↗ that's a fundamental issue I have with

1:58:04 ↗ the um with the tax itself I I um do

1:58:10 ↗ understand why this was brought forward

1:58:11 ↗ today with the rush I think that it was

1:58:13 ↗ a very very unique circumstance that the

1:58:16 ↗ way that this bill from the state H um

1:58:19 ↗ house has been crafted is that you have

1:58:22 ↗ a period of time where the county could

1:58:24 ↗ have imposed this and then you have a

1:58:25 ↗ period of time in which the cities or

1:58:27 ↗ the county could as well as the 30% um

1:58:30 ↗ Revenue going back to cities above

1:58:32 ↗ 60,000 I mean it's very it's it's a very

1:58:34 ↗ complicated issue and this really was

1:58:36 ↗ the only time I as far as I can tell

1:58:39 ↗ that we could have considered it while

1:58:42 ↗ having the opportunity to take action so

1:58:43 ↗ I completely understand why it was

1:58:45 ↗ brought forward um and I I agree that it

1:58:49 ↗ would have been much better to have more

1:58:51 ↗ opportunity to consider it um for

1:58:53 ↗ ourselves as well as for the public but

1:58:55 ↗ at the same time I just don't see how

1:58:56 ↗ that would have been possible so again I

1:58:58 ↗ understand the the timing um I am

1:59:00 ↗ concerned about being a regressive tax I

1:59:02 ↗ also think that the regional model Works

1:59:06 ↗ um well many of the people that um are

1:59:09 ↗ experiencing homelessness it's a it's a

1:59:11 ↗ regional issue so we often um see that

1:59:14 ↗ we are referring people to other

1:59:16 ↗ services in other cities for instance

1:59:18 ↗ that we don't have those services within

1:59:20 ↗ isqua so working together I think serves

1:59:23 ↗ our community better actually in this in

1:59:26 ↗ this way in a number of areas um as I

1:59:28 ↗ said I think the amendment fundamentally

1:59:30 ↗ changes the the motion's outcome the

1:59:33 ↗ main motion because I based on the email

1:59:35 ↗ that I received I really think that um

1:59:39 ↗ the county is supportive of the to

1:59:41 ↗ project in particular and I think they

1:59:43 ↗ will commit to that um and they will

1:59:46 ↗ commit to helping us make that happen

1:59:50 ↗ thank you council member D Michelle oh

1:59:54 ↗ sorry council member Hall followed by

1:59:56 ↗ council member D

1:59:58 ↗ Michelle thank you mayor paully this is

2:00:00 ↗ council member Hall um I'm still steing

2:00:03 ↗ a um some comments so I might actually

2:00:06 ↗ um enter the chat again after this but I

2:00:10 ↗ did want to point out that the state

2:00:14 ↗ legislature um in their wisdom created a

2:00:18 ↗ bill by which they wanted to give a tool

2:00:21 ↗ to both counties and cities to help

2:00:25 ↗ support affordable housing and

2:00:26 ↗ Behavioral Health needs so I don't feel

2:00:28 ↗ in any way that we're taking any dollars

2:00:30 ↗ away from anyone um I also do agree um

2:00:35 ↗ with most everything that's been said

2:00:37 ↗ this evening we are certainly between a

2:00:39 ↗ rock and a hard place and at the end of

2:00:41 ↗ the day in my mind um this tax increase

2:00:47 ↗ is happening whether we want it to or

2:00:48 ↗ not

2:00:49 ↗ so in my mind as um a public servant and

2:00:54 ↗ after conversations with the community

2:00:56 ↗ over the weekend I believe that it's in

2:00:57 ↗ the best interest of isal to to um

2:01:01 ↗ ensure that the um transportation

2:01:04 ↗ oriented or Transit oriented development

2:01:06 ↗ project are the project that is in the

2:01:08 ↗ works here in isqua gets fully realized

2:01:12 ↗ and um I feel really passionate about

2:01:14 ↗ that so those are my comments for

2:01:18 ↗ now

2:01:28 ↗ another dollar I'm up to$ three council

2:01:30 ↗ member D

2:01:33 ↗ Michelle thank you thank you mayor

2:01:36 ↗ paully

2:01:38 ↗ um so I totally agree that the sales tax

2:01:42 ↗ is regressive it's a terrible tax we

2:01:45 ↗ have an awful tax system in Washington

2:01:47 ↗ state those statements are true but

2:01:51 ↗ whether or not we vote for this tonight

2:01:53 ↗ it's going to get imposed

2:01:56 ↗ anyway um I think that imposing a new

2:01:59 ↗ tax in the middle of a pandemic is a

2:02:02 ↗ terrible idea but whether or not we vote

2:02:05 ↗ tonight it's going to get imposed anyway

2:02:08 ↗ so the issue is not whether or we're

2:02:11 ↗ whether or not we're going to have a new

2:02:13 ↗ tax or a sales tax it's whether or not

2:02:15 ↗ we get to control the outcome of those

2:02:18 ↗ taxes that that's the issue in front of

2:02:20 ↗ us and as for being a good uh Regional

2:02:23 ↗ partner I want you to look and see

2:02:26 ↗ what's happened just because we put this

2:02:28 ↗ on the agenda um we put it on the agenda

2:02:31 ↗ and we have the executive and we have

2:02:33 ↗ the King County council president and we

2:02:36 ↗ have Mr FL here discussing with us uh

2:02:40 ↗ sometimes you need to kick up a little

2:02:42 ↗ bit of best to get the attention and

2:02:45 ↗ that's what we've done and I think that

2:02:47 ↗ we need to follow through for the people

2:02:50 ↗ in our community who need uh us to stand

2:02:53 ↗ up for them and exert this control we

2:02:56 ↗ can still decide to be a regional

2:02:59 ↗ partner all the difference is that we

2:03:02 ↗ are going to uh make that decision

2:03:05 ↗ ourselves in a timely way we've got

2:03:08 ↗ several months to make this decision we

2:03:10 ↗ can do the public process that wouldn't

2:03:13 ↗ have happened anyway because the C Ken

2:03:16 ↗ County Council didn't do an Outreach to

2:03:18 ↗ our citizens

2:03:19 ↗ so the fact that we haven't done a

2:03:21 ↗ public process that's what we can do

2:03:23 ↗ between now and December the 31st I'm

2:03:26 ↗ going to vote for this um because I

2:03:28 ↗ think this is the best thing we can do

2:03:30 ↗ for the citizens of isqua thank

2:03:33 ↗ you thank

2:03:35 ↗ you uh council member Marts thank you

2:03:39 ↗ Madame mayor this is council member

2:03:40 ↗ Marts I totally agree with council

2:03:43 ↗ member Goodman that this process has

2:03:45 ↗ been really unfortunate um it is is you

2:03:49 ↗ never like to make decisions hastily

2:03:53 ↗ especially when it involves taxation um

2:03:57 ↗ but uh our hand was forced by the timing

2:04:00 ↗ of this and I'll tell you that those of

2:04:02 ↗ us who talked Thursday morning about

2:04:05 ↗ wanting to bring this forward I know for

2:04:07 ↗ a fact within a half hour they had

2:04:09 ↗ called all the other council members to

2:04:11 ↗ let them know that there was this

2:04:13 ↗ conversation coming without without

2:04:15 ↗ trying to persuade anybody um so but I

2:04:18 ↗ get it's really really unfortunate and

2:04:20 ↗ quite frankly I understand why you have

2:04:22 ↗ a no vote on this tonight um but um I do

2:04:26 ↗ think it is an opportunity this train is

2:04:28 ↗ leaving the station um we can uh we can

2:04:33 ↗ assure uh a we can assure commitment for

2:04:38 ↗ any for a project that um is has been

2:04:41 ↗ under consideration as you point out

2:04:43 ↗ isn't isn't a done deal but has been

2:04:45 ↗ under consideration for years um you

2:04:48 ↗ know in terms of um enshrining this

2:04:53 ↗ getting getting this commitment from the

2:04:54 ↗ county um I think it's awesome that the

2:04:57 ↗ County council president wrote to us but

2:04:59 ↗ as Ronald raiken said trust but verify

2:05:03 ↗ and uh this uh would make sure that um

2:05:07 ↗ this issue got addressed finally on the

2:05:10 ↗ question of regressive taxation I have

2:05:12 ↗ often often often from the day it's

2:05:15 ↗ talked about how much I don't like

2:05:16 ↗ regressive taxes but I'll point out that

2:05:19 ↗ the taxation is regressive but the

2:05:21 ↗ benefit is regressive as well right this

2:05:23 ↗ is to provide services for uh the the

2:05:27 ↗ most at risk folks in our community so

2:05:30 ↗ the revenue is coming um is not

2:05:33 ↗ Progressive but the benefit is also um

2:05:36 ↗ specifically around uh you know isn't

2:05:40 ↗ the benefit doesn't go to the most

2:05:41 ↗ affluent um in our community so I I

2:05:45 ↗ never like sales taxes but at least the

2:05:48 ↗ the re the revenues and the expenditures

2:05:52 ↗ are are more closely aligned on this

2:05:54 ↗ than many of the ways um that we use

2:05:56 ↗ sales taxes so I of course will be

2:05:58 ↗ continuing uh I will support this uh uh

2:06:02 ↗ motion going forward thank

2:06:11 ↗ you you're on mute Madam

2:06:14 ↗ mayor going to be broke by the end of

2:06:16 ↗ the night council member Goodman

2:06:19 ↗ thank you um first of all no I didn't

2:06:23 ↗ get a call second of all my knowledge of

2:06:27 ↗ it is the least of my concerns it's

2:06:29 ↗ about the community second of all uh we

2:06:32 ↗ don't need to control it King County has

2:06:34 ↗ a regional plan um third of all we're

2:06:38 ↗ arguing against ourselves we don't like

2:06:41 ↗ regressive taxes yet we're voting for

2:06:43 ↗ one we like process but we don't have

2:06:45 ↗ one I just think it's

2:06:47 ↗ terrible and it's going to come back to

2:06:49 ↗ bite us just wait

2:06:53 ↗ thanks thank you council president

2:06:59 ↗ hunt thank you um this council president

2:07:03 ↗ hunt I um wanted to add that in addition

2:07:07 ↗ to the email um that we received from

2:07:11 ↗ the King uh County chair beluchi I also

2:07:15 ↗ did very briefly speak to her on the

2:07:17 ↗ phone because I had sent in question it

2:07:19 ↗ was relayed to her and um I was able to

2:07:21 ↗ have a quick conversation by a phone

2:07:22 ↗ with her and one thing that she um said

2:07:25 ↗ is she understood that the reason uh why

2:07:29 ↗ cities including isua were um taking

2:07:32 ↗ this item Up And discussing it was

2:07:34 ↗ really Our concern around the affordable

2:07:37 ↗ the needs for affordable housing

2:07:39 ↗ understanding that our community does

2:07:40 ↗ really really need affordable housing

2:07:42 ↗ and also services to address individuals

2:07:45 ↗ um to help individuals experiencing

2:07:47 ↗ homelessness so I think that um from my

2:07:50 ↗ perspective as I as I said I think a few

2:07:52 ↗ times now I really think it's likely

2:07:54 ↗ that the county will work with us to

2:07:57 ↗ address not only the to but I think our

2:08:00 ↗ our continued needs in this area I think

2:08:03 ↗ that the um to is one nearer term

2:08:07 ↗ project but then this tax that the

2:08:10 ↗ county is considering um would be in

2:08:12 ↗ place for for many years potentially

2:08:16 ↗ it's not doesn't have an end date as far

2:08:18 ↗ as I know

2:08:19 ↗ um and so I think that the county we

2:08:21 ↗ would need to continue to partner with

2:08:23 ↗ the county on how to use this um funding

2:08:25 ↗ to represent to best represent the

2:08:27 ↗ interests of the community and again I

2:08:29 ↗ think that a regional approach um does

2:08:32 ↗ make sense we have we have bought into

2:08:34 ↗ that Regional approach in other ways as

2:08:35 ↗ well such as through Arch which as as my

2:08:38 ↗ question earlier I believe that this

2:08:40 ↗ funding will also be used to support the

2:08:42 ↗ regional approach that's embodied by

2:08:44 ↗ Arch um so for those reasons and that I

2:08:47 ↗ and the fact that I think I can't get

2:08:49 ↗ over that it's um a regressive tax in a

2:08:52 ↗ pandemic I'm very

2:08:55 ↗ concerned thank you going to Deputy

2:08:57 ↗ council president Ray next thank you

2:08:59 ↗ mayor Paulie this is Chris Ray a couple

2:09:01 ↗ thoughts one is um I did get notified on

2:09:04 ↗ Thursday so thank you council member

2:09:06 ↗ March for giving me a heads up I

2:09:07 ↗ appreciate that a lot gave me at least

2:09:09 ↗ some time to start thinking about it um

2:09:12 ↗ allbe it um it was short notice and so

2:09:14 ↗ the you know the process is not optimal

2:09:17 ↗ and particularly when we're talking

2:09:18 ↗ about taxes and and I just have a hard

2:09:20 ↗ time uh getting behind any tax increase

2:09:24 ↗ without any kind of public comment and

2:09:26 ↗ we didn't hear anything from the public

2:09:28 ↗ today so um I can't believe no one um um

2:09:32 ↗ was moved to talk if they knew this was

2:09:34 ↗ was going to be coming um second I don't

2:09:37 ↗ think it's fair to talk about local

2:09:38 ↗ control for for two reasons one is half

2:09:41 ↗ of our sales tax doesn't come from the

2:09:42 ↗ city of isqua it comes from the region

2:09:44 ↗ so it's really Regional sales tax it's

2:09:46 ↗ not isqua resident Sal sales tax so um

2:09:49 ↗ this is a regional tax Source it's not

2:09:52 ↗ um isqua tax source and then secondly

2:09:55 ↗ when we talk about Regional control

2:09:57 ↗ there's Regional responsibilities and if

2:09:59 ↗ we're going to control the the taxes and

2:10:01 ↗ the the revenues and the programs um

2:10:03 ↗ we've got an overhead associated with

2:10:04 ↗ which we haven't talked about at all um

2:10:07 ↗ how are we going to manage and

2:10:08 ↗ administer this $1.7 million a year how

2:10:11 ↗ much is going to be carved out of um the

2:10:14 ↗ money available for services so that we

2:10:16 ↗ can administer it as opposed to having

2:10:18 ↗ King County administer where they

2:10:19 ↗ already have an infrastructure um number

2:10:23 ↗ three um we are Regional players I mean

2:10:25 ↗ we've been very successful with

2:10:27 ↗ affordable housing with Arch and working

2:10:30 ↗ in um the larger

2:10:32 ↗ community and being good players and and

2:10:34 ↗ pooling our resources to get the optimal

2:10:37 ↗ results and then the last thing is I

2:10:38 ↗ want to be known to King County is is a

2:10:40 ↗ city that is good to work with that

2:10:43 ↗ we're we are good players and that we if

2:10:45 ↗ we can't make a case to King County that

2:10:47 ↗ are needs are important then um we

2:10:50 ↗ haven't done a good job of making our

2:10:51 ↗ case so I I think that there there you

2:10:55 ↗ know I agree with council member D

2:10:57 ↗ Michelle this is very likely to happen

2:11:00 ↗ anyway we're going to have a regressive

2:11:02 ↗ uh sales tax anyway um I just think King

2:11:05 ↗ County is in a better position to

2:11:06 ↗ administer this resource than we would

2:11:09 ↗ um for um you know a number of reasons

2:11:12 ↗ that I just stated thank

2:11:17 ↗ you

2:11:24 ↗ Madame

2:11:27 ↗ mayor okay so I'm gonna come clean there

2:11:30 ↗ is an event going on outside that keeps

2:11:32 ↗ making a lot of noise so I feel like I

2:11:34 ↗ have to turn this off and so okay I'm up

2:11:36 ↗ to $5 doar now I totally get it I'm not

2:11:39 ↗ going to touch the button anymore

2:11:40 ↗ because the event is over so there you

2:11:41 ↗ go um we have had a lot of comments and

2:11:45 ↗ we've gone almost all the way around the

2:11:47 ↗ table the only person I can see that may

2:11:49 ↗ not have had an opportunity to make

2:11:51 ↗ comment so far is council member Walsh

2:11:54 ↗ and so while I'm waiting to see if

2:11:55 ↗ anybody else you can just give me a head

2:11:57 ↗ nod if you uh wanted to chime in or

2:12:02 ↗ not I guess I can chime

2:12:05 ↗ in uh and you know what I will just uh

2:12:08 ↗ this is council member Walsh I will just

2:12:11 ↗ say what council member D Michelle said

2:12:13 ↗ uh this is going to happen and I think

2:12:16 ↗ we owe it to our community members

2:12:19 ↗ to have some local control if we can um

2:12:23 ↗ but also be a regional player so I think

2:12:27 ↗ this gives us an opportunity to do that

2:12:30 ↗ um on the short

2:12:31 ↗ timeline thank you council member Walsh

2:12:34 ↗ it looks like we're at the end of the

2:12:37 ↗ comments so I will go back and read the

2:12:40 ↗ original motion that's been moved and

2:12:43 ↗ seconded and amended um the motion is to

2:12:47 ↗ adopt ordinance

2:12:49 ↗ number

2:12:52 ↗ 2922 imposing an additional sales and

2:12:55 ↗ use tax of one1 of 1% for housing and

2:12:58 ↗ related Services as authorized by RCW

2:13:03 ↗ 8214 530 adding a new section 3.04

2:13:07 ↗ point0 26 to the isqua municipal code

2:13:10 ↗ providing for severability and

2:13:12 ↗ establishing an effective date as

2:13:16 ↗ amended and I'll go to the city clerk

2:13:18 ↗ for a roll call

2:13:20 ↗ Vote Yes council member

2:13:22 ↗ Marts hi Deputy council president Ray

2:13:27 ↗ no council member

2:13:30 ↗ Walsh

2:13:32 ↗ I council member D Michelle

2:13:35 ↗ I council member Goodman

2:13:39 ↗ nay council member

2:13:41 ↗ Hall

2:13:43 ↗ I council president hunt

2:13:46 ↗ nay

2:13:48 ↗ that's four eyes three

2:13:51 ↗ naay thank you it passes off four to

2:13:54 ↗ three um the next item on our agenda

2:13:58 ↗ before we move on I believe H it's

2:14:01 ↗ appropriate for us to take a f minute

2:14:03 ↗ break it's about 9:16 we'll pull

2:14:05 ↗ everybody back together around

2:14:16 ↗ 9:21

2:19:46 ↗ Tisha it looks like we have all of our

2:19:47 ↗ council members

2:19:49 ↗ back yes it sure does and uh maybe we

2:19:52 ↗ can just confirm with Tim that we're

2:19:54 ↗ back

2:19:55 ↗ online maybe we don't have Tisha

2:20:06 ↗ back so yes mayor I give you a

2:20:09 ↗ 10c notice to start the

2:20:16 ↗ video

2:20:23 ↗ is Mayor paie can you hear us all

2:20:32 ↗ right mayor

2:20:36 ↗ pulie thanks

2:20:40 ↗ uh set to work how can you hear me

2:20:43 ↗ now great we can hear you can can you

2:20:47 ↗ hear us I can and did Tim give the 10

2:20:50 ↗ second go

2:20:51 ↗ ahead okay great thanks so calling us

2:20:55 ↗ back from our break uh we are several

2:20:59 ↗ more items to go I'm going to go to the

2:21:02 ↗ city administrator for a comment before

2:21:04 ↗ we start our next

2:21:06 ↗ item yes Madam yes madame mayor thank

2:21:09 ↗ you um

2:21:12 ↗ whoops you are muted

2:21:15 ↗ Wally thank you Madame mayor um we have

2:21:18 ↗ three items left I'd like to propose

2:21:20 ↗ that we take the environment board item

2:21:22 ↗ and move it to your meeting on October

2:21:25 ↗ October the 19th we would really like to

2:21:27 ↗ get the last two items uh done on the

2:21:30 ↗ affordable housing issue um it's 9:30 at

2:21:33 ↗ this point we probably still have

2:21:35 ↗ another hour and a half uh just for the

2:21:38 ↗ two housing items um so we propose

2:21:41 ↗ moving the environment board to the

2:21:44 ↗ 19th have a couple of comments on that

2:21:46 ↗ let's start with with council member

2:21:48 ↗ Goodman and council president hunt

2:21:50 ↗ council member

2:21:52 ↗ Goodman um if council president hunt

2:21:55 ↗ would like to go before me because she's

2:21:57 ↗ council president I'm fine with that but

2:21:59 ↗ okay um

2:22:02 ↗ I um just as a heads up I was um the

2:22:07 ↗ environmental board might be quick um if

2:22:11 ↗ my I was going to make a motion to refer

2:22:13 ↗ it back with specific questions to PPC

2:22:15 ↗ and um so if we address that initial so

2:22:19 ↗ depending on the late hour could we

2:22:21 ↗ decide later whether we want to do the

2:22:23 ↗ environmental board later um move it to

2:22:26 ↗ the next meeting because if we um if we

2:22:30 ↗ wait till the 19th and I make a motion

2:22:33 ↗ to refer it back to PPC for a meeting

2:22:35 ↗ then we're delaying that even further

2:22:36 ↗ before the PPC so just in the interest

2:22:39 ↗ of full disclosure um there's specific

2:22:41 ↗ questions that I think the PPC should

2:22:44 ↗ address um but if we wait then we're

2:22:46 ↗ just further delaying

2:22:47 ↗ and if it happens to be a quick item

2:22:50 ↗ tonight and it's not too late then we

2:22:51 ↗ can deal with it that would be my

2:22:53 ↗ concern about making a decision right

2:22:55 ↗ now to take the environmental board off

2:22:57 ↗ the

2:22:57 ↗ agenda and before I go back to the city

2:23:00 ↗ administrator I'm just going to check in

2:23:01 ↗ with uh council president hunt and see

2:23:03 ↗ if that is the direction you were headed

2:23:05 ↗ in as

2:23:06 ↗ well thank you yes I

2:23:09 ↗ was okay so City administ bobit it

2:23:12 ↗ sounds like at least two of our council

2:23:14 ↗ members tonight we're hoping to propos

2:23:18 ↗ that um the item mov back to planning

2:23:21 ↗ policy with some directed questions from

2:23:23 ↗ Council so how would you like to

2:23:26 ↗ proceed let's let's continue forward uh

2:23:29 ↗ Megan's home and so we'll don't have to

2:23:32 ↗ worry about her traveling late so uh

2:23:34 ↗ she'll continue to stand by we'll take

2:23:36 ↗ it up at the

2:23:37 ↗ end okay that sounds great then we will

2:23:40 ↗ move in to oh council president hunts I

2:23:43 ↗ thank you I just wanted to clarify I I

2:23:45 ↗ just meant I agreed with waiting until

2:23:48 ↗ until to see if we needed to take it off

2:23:50 ↗ the agenda because I think we might not

2:23:53 ↗ we might move through the other items a

2:23:55 ↗ little quicker and this one might go

2:23:56 ↗ faster we just can't really tell so I

2:23:58 ↗ think we should definitely keep it open

2:24:00 ↗ and I I also um didn't want to imply

2:24:02 ↗ that I was going to do um the same thing

2:24:05 ↗ as coun council member that's fine thank

2:24:08 ↗ you very much for the clarification the

2:24:10 ↗ next item on the agenda is

2:24:12 ↗ ab813 housing stability it is a local

2:24:15 ↗ defense against eviction the action

2:24:18 ↗ before the council this evening is to

2:24:20 ↗ consider adopting an ordinance this item

2:24:23 ↗ was last before council at the September

2:24:25 ↗ 15th Council study session and I'd like

2:24:27 ↗ to invite City administrator Wally bobit

2:24:29 ↗ to introduce this item yes thank you

2:24:31 ↗ Madame mayor members of the council uh

2:24:34 ↗ this also uh has had a lot of of things

2:24:37 ↗ happening over the course of just today

2:24:40 ↗ uh and I'd like to ask Monica negrilla

2:24:42 ↗ our uh our housing uh commes coordinator

2:24:46 ↗ and Jim Haney to City attorney uh to

2:24:48 ↗ share some information uh that they

2:24:50 ↗ received earlier today uh about the

2:24:52 ↗ plans for the state of Washington uh I

2:24:54 ↗ think that that's relevant information

2:24:57 ↗ uh as we move forward so

2:24:59 ↗ [Music]

2:25:01 ↗ um oh there's

2:25:04 ↗ Monica uh Monica would you like to try

2:25:06 ↗ to get us of a stab at what you heard

2:25:09 ↗ today because I think that has an impact

2:25:11 ↗ on uh the consideration of the

2:25:13 ↗ ordinances before the

2:25:14 ↗ council that sounds good um good evening

2:25:17 ↗ everyone this is Monica Nilla and Human

2:25:20 ↗ Services so earlier tonight this

2:25:23 ↗ afternoon at around 4M um we uh

2:25:27 ↗ participated in a debrief call um

2:25:30 ↗ organized by the Association of

2:25:32 ↗ Washington cities um and um we had as

2:25:36 ↗ guest

2:25:37 ↗ speakers the um director of office of

2:25:41 ↗ legal aid and also the superior court

2:25:43 ↗ judge of Benton and Franklin County um

2:25:46 ↗ and so they provided additional

2:25:48 ↗ clarification uh regarding the eviction

2:25:51 ↗ resolution program um and so first of

2:25:56 ↗ all we learned a few details so um one

2:25:58 ↗ of the details that we learned is that

2:26:01 ↗ it's highly likely uh that the

2:26:04 ↗ moratorium um will be extended so uh

2:26:07 ↗ they expect that the moratorium will be

2:26:10 ↗ extended um in addition we also learned

2:26:12 ↗ that um the state is uh into securing

2:26:18 ↗ additional funds to extend the pilot

2:26:22 ↗ project um Beyond December 31st so at

2:26:27 ↗ this point initially the pilot project

2:26:29 ↗ was expected to um end in December

2:26:32 ↗ because they were going to use KAC

2:26:34 ↗ dollars for it um however they are uh

2:26:37 ↗ looking into securing additional funds

2:26:40 ↗ and those additional funds will also

2:26:41 ↗ help

2:26:43 ↗ cover at least based on the information

2:26:45 ↗ that we received tonight they are

2:26:47 ↗ expected to cover um all residents um

2:26:51 ↗ and

2:26:52 ↗ therefore

2:26:54 ↗ um as a note if you remember in the past

2:26:58 ↗ when we first learned about this program

2:27:01 ↗ uh they had an eligibility requirement

2:27:03 ↗ and services were going to be offered

2:27:06 ↗ for free only for those at uh who

2:27:09 ↗ qualified um and had income at or below

2:27:12 ↗ 50% Ami whereas today we were told that

2:27:15 ↗ everyone would qualif

2:27:17 ↗ for those free

2:27:18 ↗ services

2:27:20 ↗ um so I think in a nutshell those were

2:27:24 ↗ the major news items that we learned Jim

2:27:26 ↗ Haney was also on the call what did I

2:27:28 ↗ miss

2:27:34 ↗ Jim no I think you I think Monica got

2:27:37 ↗ the uh the major news items that we

2:27:39 ↗ learned um uh there was a frequently

2:27:43 ↗ asked questions um uh document which was

2:27:47 ↗ provided which uh gave some information

2:27:50 ↗ about the program and how it would work

2:27:53 ↗ um and it's our understanding that uh

2:27:57 ↗ that it basically uh is a meet and

2:28:01 ↗ confer type program it does offer a

2:28:05 ↗ voluntary mediation and the upshot is

2:28:08 ↗ that if landlords and tenants or if a

2:28:12 ↗ landlord and tenant go through the

2:28:14 ↗ program or if the tenant refuses to go

2:28:17 ↗ through the program and the landlord has

2:28:18 ↗ gone gone through uh the landlord will

2:28:21 ↗ receive ultimately a certificate uh from

2:28:24 ↗ a dispute resolution center that says

2:28:26 ↗ that the the process has been completed

2:28:29 ↗ and only then will the landlord be able

2:28:31 ↗ to ask a court to enter an order which

2:28:34 ↗ would allow the tenant to be evicted so

2:28:37 ↗ um that's basically what we learned and

2:28:40 ↗ there's more detail in the FAQ that we

2:28:43 ↗ passed along in uh email this afternoon

2:28:52 ↗ so Madame mayor um if there are

2:28:55 ↗ questions we're happy to answer

2:28:56 ↗ questions otherwise we'll move on to the

2:28:58 ↗ ordinances before the

2:29:00 ↗ council I believe council president hunt

2:29:02 ↗ has a question and council member D

2:29:04 ↗ Michelle has a

2:29:05 ↗ question thank you council president

2:29:08 ↗ hunt I have a question on the on the

2:29:10 ↗ program that was just described so my

2:29:12 ↗ understanding is also that the um a land

2:29:16 ↗ that is wishing to evict a tenant would

2:29:20 ↗ also um for for unpaid rent would also

2:29:23 ↗ have to give multiple notices um and so

2:29:26 ↗ I I wanted to confirm that and also

2:29:29 ↗ raise that as a difference um that's

2:29:31 ↗ different than my understanding of the

2:29:33 ↗ federal um order that also gives some

2:29:35 ↗ protections against

2:29:39 ↗ evictions um yes uh you're right that

2:29:42 ↗ there are at least two notices that have

2:29:44 ↗ to be given by the landlord under the

2:29:46 ↗ the eviction uh under the eviction

2:29:49 ↗ program that we've been talking about um

2:29:52 ↗ the first uh notice is given by the

2:29:55 ↗ landlord and it tells the tenant that

2:29:57 ↗ the tenant um um has a

2:30:02 ↗ um has a right to uh resolve the dispute

2:30:08 ↗ according to the eviction resolution

2:30:10 ↗ program uh if the tenant responds then

2:30:14 ↗ the parties go into the dispute

2:30:16 ↗ resolution program as it as it exists if

2:30:19 ↗ the tenant doesn't respond then the

2:30:21 ↗ landlord gives a second notice to the

2:30:23 ↗ tenant this time giving the same a copy

2:30:26 ↗ of that notice to the dispute resolution

2:30:28 ↗ center and then the dispute resolution

2:30:30 ↗ center follows up uh with the uh with

2:30:34 ↗ the tenant to try to convince them to

2:30:36 ↗ enter the eviction resolution program

2:30:39 ↗ that is different than the um than the

2:30:42 ↗ federal program in the federal program

2:30:44 ↗ it is the tenant who provides the notice

2:30:46 ↗ noce to the landlord and there is a form

2:30:50 ↗ which the CDC has um put out that the

2:30:54 ↗ tenant fills out the tenant sends that

2:30:56 ↗ to the landlord and if the tenant sends

2:30:59 ↗ that notice to the landlord then the

2:31:01 ↗ landlord is precluded from evicting the

2:31:07 ↗ tenant um thank you and then my other

2:31:10 ↗ question um which I also asked by email

2:31:14 ↗ is could you provide more information

2:31:16 ↗ about how this program is going to be

2:31:18 ↗ available to anyone who needs rent um

2:31:22 ↗ rental assistance I you know we heard

2:31:25 ↗ earlier in this meeting from Mr FL that

2:31:28 ↗ I think he said $180 million unpaid and

2:31:31 ↗ rent a huge percentage of people are

2:31:33 ↗ likely to fall behind on rent at this

2:31:35 ↗ time and so I'm I'm

2:31:38 ↗ fundamentally wondering how this program

2:31:40 ↗ is funded or if they're relying on a lot

2:31:43 ↗ of volunteers um and how it's likely to

2:31:45 ↗ work

2:31:49 ↗ um I can start with trying to provide an

2:31:52 ↗ answer thank you Monica that's okay yeah

2:31:56 ↗ uh thank you um so from my understanding

2:31:59 ↗ is that it's um um

2:32:02 ↗ multi-disciplinary program if if you if

2:32:05 ↗ you say if we can say so um because on

2:32:08 ↗ one end so it's going to be implemented

2:32:10 ↗ by the drc's the dispute resolutions um

2:32:13 ↗ however um the in King count

2:32:16 ↗ um the home Justice program is also

2:32:19 ↗ Associated uh they are going to be the

2:32:21 ↗ ones to um reach out to tenants and

2:32:24 ↗ provide the resources and try to connect

2:32:26 ↗ them with the rental assistance program

2:32:28 ↗ uh so there are just multi programs

2:32:31 ↗ involved um in the process uh it starts

2:32:34 ↗ with the tenant um however the tenants

2:32:37 ↗ are first they they receive the

2:32:39 ↗ resources so it starts with the tenant

2:32:41 ↗ um once the tenant reaches out then it

2:32:44 ↗ involves the Justice housing project and

2:32:46 ↗ then the drc's

2:32:49 ↗ and then it moves to mediation services

2:32:52 ↗ so there just multiple steps and

2:32:54 ↗ multiple people involved in um and

2:32:57 ↗ programs involved in it and as far as

2:33:00 ↗ capacity your second question um in my

2:33:03 ↗ communication with the dispute

2:33:05 ↗ resolution centers that's exactly what

2:33:07 ↗ they are working on now um in trying to

2:33:10 ↗ increase capacity um and trying to find

2:33:14 ↗ yes volunteer attorneys um and um other

2:33:18 ↗ mediators U to make sure that they have

2:33:20 ↗ capacity for the

2:33:22 ↗ program so just following up two

2:33:25 ↗ comments one is I'll just read from the

2:33:28 ↗ uh frequently asked questions uh

2:33:31 ↗ question who is eligible to participate

2:33:34 ↗ in the Erp the answer is any tenant who

2:33:37 ↗ is affected by the covid-19 emergency is

2:33:40 ↗ behind in rent and faces the prospect of

2:33:43 ↗ eviction when the moratoria are lifted

2:33:47 ↗ and then the question is there an income

2:33:49 ↗ eligibility requirement answer no so

2:33:53 ↗ that's what we were told today in the

2:33:55 ↗ frequently asked questions uh is that

2:33:58 ↗ there is no income eligibility

2:34:00 ↗ requirement in the current program and

2:34:03 ↗ uh otherwise um my understanding as uh

2:34:07 ↗ Monica was indicating is that there uh

2:34:11 ↗ are funds uh at least through the cares

2:34:14 ↗ act that would be appli

2:34:17 ↗ um to help fund this program through the

2:34:20 ↗ end of this year and then they're they

2:34:22 ↗ are seeking other funding to take it

2:34:24 ↗ Beyond this year also part of the

2:34:26 ↗ program is to try to place tenants in

2:34:31 ↗ um in uh contact with resources uh that

2:34:35 ↗ may assist them with paying rent so they

2:34:38 ↗ are relying on that for that portion of

2:34:40 ↗ it not not necessarily the the the

2:34:43 ↗ funding to pay the rent uh is itself uh

2:34:47 ↗ through the the uh this but the program

2:34:50 ↗ is funded through as I said through the

2:34:53 ↗ car's act funding and and then other

2:34:55 ↗ funding that they will

2:34:59 ↗ get thank you and if I might I do have

2:35:02 ↗ one more question sure goad the you you

2:35:07 ↗ mentioned that this um is a requirement

2:35:10 ↗ after the moratoria are listed my

2:35:13 ↗ understanding was it was a requirement

2:35:15 ↗ after the state moratorium so I want to

2:35:17 ↗ make sure that it isn't only um required

2:35:21 ↗ after say the cdc's which is um very

2:35:24 ↗ limited in scope in my opinion um so it

2:35:27 ↗ this this would go into play after the

2:35:29 ↗ state's the governor's moratorium would

2:35:32 ↗ be lifted

2:35:33 ↗ correct that is my understanding uh is

2:35:37 ↗ that it goes into it up until the time

2:35:41 ↗ the governor's moratorium is lifted it

2:35:44 ↗ is a completely voluntary Pro program

2:35:46 ↗ although people are encouraged to

2:35:48 ↗ participate in it after the governor's

2:35:51 ↗ moratorium is lifted then it becomes a

2:35:53 ↗ mandatory program before you can go to

2:35:57 ↗ court thank

2:36:06 ↗ you oh sorry I'm going to go to council

2:36:09 ↗ member D

2:36:11 ↗ Michelle uh thank you um I realized you

2:36:14 ↗ just had this meeting at 4:00 this

2:36:16 ↗ afternoon so these questions might be

2:36:19 ↗ premature but it's still always a worry

2:36:22 ↗ about how people in isqua are going to

2:36:25 ↗ access these

2:36:27 ↗ services are are they going to tell some

2:36:31 ↗ kind of

2:36:33 ↗ um um you know Zoom meetings or will

2:36:37 ↗ they have to travel to bellev or will

2:36:39 ↗ they have to travel to Seattle or do we

2:36:42 ↗ know anything about the logistics of how

2:36:44 ↗ the the service are going to be

2:36:49 ↗ delivered um we did not receive

2:36:51 ↗ information on that tonight um in the

2:36:54 ↗ past when we did talk with the uh

2:36:56 ↗ dispute resolution centers both in bvw

2:36:59 ↗ and the King County one they both

2:37:01 ↗ confirmed that they have moved to

2:37:03 ↗ providing uh phone and online services

2:37:06 ↗ um however um we did not receive

2:37:09 ↗ information today in particular about

2:37:10 ↗ the um eviction resolution

2:37:14 ↗ program

2:37:18 ↗ so City administrator B I believe there

2:37:21 ↗ actually is a u I'll just read again one

2:37:24 ↗ of the frequently asked questions was

2:37:26 ↗ will the process comply with covid-19

2:37:29 ↗ Public Health and Social distancing

2:37:31 ↗ requirements and the answer was yes

2:37:33 ↗ until otherwise allowed conciliation and

2:37:36 ↗ mediation efforts will be handled

2:37:39 ↗ virtually either via Zoom or telephone

2:37:42 ↗ accommodation will be made for those who

2:37:44 ↗ are high risk or otherwise do not feel

2:37:47 ↗ safe in face-to-face environments so

2:37:49 ↗ that's the only information we have

2:37:51 ↗ whether where exactly this will occur um

2:37:56 ↗ um we're not sure but it it appears that

2:37:59 ↗ they are going to try to accommodate it

2:38:00 ↗ via Zoom or other

2:38:07 ↗ medium the city administrator Bob Kitz

2:38:10 ↗ this is the mayor and I have a question

2:38:11 ↗ for you so this this is so typical of

2:38:14 ↗ this year but seems like there's always

2:38:17 ↗ more moving Parts even though we feel

2:38:19 ↗ like we might have landed on something

2:38:21 ↗ does it make sense to take the body of

2:38:23 ↗ the temperature or the temperature of

2:38:25 ↗ the body to decide whether or not they

2:38:27 ↗ want to proceed with this ordinance

2:38:29 ↗ review tonight or move it to a date

2:38:32 ↗ certain when more information can be

2:38:34 ↗ gathered about the new um program

2:38:37 ↗ information that Monica and Jim have

2:38:39 ↗ just

2:38:40 ↗ explained uh certainly that's an option

2:38:44 ↗ um we also would like to give an update

2:38:46 ↗ on our own mediation efforts uh because

2:38:50 ↗ if that would also like to be delayed

2:38:53 ↗ then that would be important to know

2:38:54 ↗ because otherwise we were preparing to

2:38:55 ↗ come back on no on October the 19th uh

2:38:58 ↗ with a contract so uh certainly if if

2:39:02 ↗ the the group would like to provide a

2:39:03 ↗ temperature that would be great okay

2:39:06 ↗ I'll start with um council president

2:39:09 ↗ hunt who worked on the ad hoc for this

2:39:11 ↗ what are your

2:39:12 ↗ thoughts um thank you this is council

2:39:16 ↗ president hunt my um my first thought

2:39:20 ↗ when I saw I read through the FAQ which

2:39:23 ↗ came to council I don't know half an

2:39:25 ↗ hour before the meeting um the FAQ about

2:39:28 ↗ the um eviction resolution program my

2:39:31 ↗ first thought was to ask if it covered

2:39:35 ↗ if we thought it covered everyone who

2:39:37 ↗ would be covered by the ordinances that

2:39:39 ↗ were proposed um in our packet and the

2:39:43 ↗ answer back was from Monica was that yes

2:39:46 ↗ she believed it would so given that but

2:39:49 ↗ also given that we haven't um we only

2:39:52 ↗ had a few minutes to process it um and

2:39:55 ↗ also given that we have um some

2:39:57 ↗ Assurance to the extent possible that

2:39:59 ↗ the governor's moratorium will also

2:40:02 ↗ continue um I think you know as as has

2:40:06 ↗ happened before I do think we have more

2:40:08 ↗ time and the situation evolved and um I

2:40:12 ↗ honestly spent a lot of time researching

2:40:14 ↗ the CDC moratorium which I thought was

2:40:17 ↗ um had a number of inadequacies and

2:40:20 ↗ holes in it that I thought um we could

2:40:22 ↗ better address in our ordinance but um I

2:40:25 ↗ I haven't yet had time to fully process

2:40:27 ↗ the eviction um resolution program

2:40:31 ↗ except that first glance it looks much

2:40:33 ↗ more

2:40:36 ↗ comprehensive uh who else is on your

2:40:39 ↗ task for us council member D Michelle

2:40:41 ↗ council member Hall about the rest of it

2:40:42 ↗ can we get your thoughts on it and maybe

2:40:45 ↗ maybe what will end up entertaining is

2:40:47 ↗ the motion to move this to a date

2:40:49 ↗ certain in the future for discussion

2:40:51 ↗ council member D

2:40:53 ↗ Michelle thank you I was just getting

2:40:56 ↗ ready to put something in the chat um uh

2:40:59 ↗ I agree I think uh we've got the time

2:41:01 ↗ now to delay this and process the

2:41:04 ↗ information that we just got late this

2:41:06 ↗ afternoon so I would support putting it

2:41:08 ↗ off as well just check with the last ad

2:41:12 ↗ hoc member uh council member Hall your

2:41:14 ↗ thoughts thanks PA this is Zach H I'd be

2:41:17 ↗ comfortable with the

2:41:18 ↗ same so I will Che back with the city

2:41:21 ↗ clerk and ask what that motion might

2:41:23 ↗ look

2:41:27 ↗ like I think uh this is uh Tisha and I

2:41:31 ↗ think that um there could be you could

2:41:34 ↗ formalize a motion to provide direction

2:41:36 ↗ to the administration to return the

2:41:39 ↗ agenda bill um you know honor before a

2:41:42 ↗ certain date um another motion that

2:41:45 ↗ Council has used is postponing I I think

2:41:48 ↗ either achieve the same uh goal and it

2:41:51 ↗ might be helpful to have some date

2:41:54 ↗ flexibility here um so an honor before

2:41:57 ↗ date might be

2:42:01 ↗ useful would you be able to craft a

2:42:04 ↗ motion and put that in the chat box and

2:42:07 ↗ we see if any of the council members

2:42:08 ↗ would like to move

2:42:10 ↗ them um yes I do have a question that

2:42:13 ↗ might help that Monica Jim likely know

2:42:16 ↗ the answer to was there any indication

2:42:18 ↗ of when the governor's moratorium would

2:42:20 ↗ be extended to or is that date

2:42:25 ↗ unknown uh there was no information that

2:42:28 ↗ we received on that um you know the

2:42:32 ↗ these the governor's proclamations kind

2:42:34 ↗ of tend to get extended at the last

2:42:36 ↗ minute and then it's however long he can

2:42:39 ↗ confir he can convince the Four Corners

2:42:42 ↗ to uh to extend for so we didn't see any

2:42:46 ↗ information as to how long that would be

2:42:48 ↗ just that it was likely that it would be

2:42:51 ↗ extended okay and the it's currently uh

2:42:56 ↗ until o is it October 15th the current

2:42:59 ↗ that's correct October

2:43:01 ↗ 15 ptia if you could compose that I'll

2:43:04 ↗ go to council president hunt for a

2:43:08 ↗ question thank you um so this is a

2:43:12 ↗ question regarding the date uh as was

2:43:14 ↗ mentioned we we have on the upcoming

2:43:17 ↗ agenda a um a related item which would

2:43:20 ↗ be regarding funding for the mediation

2:43:24 ↗ services um contract and so I uh I would

2:43:28 ↗ ask the administration if there would be

2:43:30 ↗ any issue with pairing the return of

2:43:33 ↗ this with that on October 19th City

2:43:36 ↗ administrator Bob

2:43:38 ↗ quitz uh Madame mayor members of the

2:43:40 ↗ council perhaps we split the difference

2:43:43 ↗ um and move both items to November 2nd

2:43:47 ↗ um we would perhaps have a better sense

2:43:49 ↗ of things uh with the governor's

2:43:51 ↗ Proclamation and I would think a little

2:43:54 ↗ bit of extra time with the mediation

2:43:56 ↗ contract probably would be useful so uh

2:43:58 ↗ perhaps we could do both on November

2:44:02 ↗ 2nd thoughts on that council president

2:44:08 ↗ hunt um thank you I guess my question to

2:44:14 ↗ um maybe question to Monica would be

2:44:17 ↗ also if that would if that additional

2:44:19 ↗ time would help with the contract

2:44:21 ↗ because I imagine the contract we would

2:44:24 ↗ want to be able to support this um

2:44:26 ↗ program the eviction resolution program

2:44:29 ↗ so if that timing is is better from that

2:44:31 ↗ perspective as

2:44:33 ↗ well uh yes this is monicaa uh timing

2:44:36 ↗ additional time would definitely help

2:44:38 ↗ with Contracting especially as the drc's

2:44:41 ↗ are trying to uh obtain final details on

2:44:44 ↗ the um their program um even um they

2:44:48 ↗ would like and express interest in

2:44:50 ↗ having additional time um so

2:44:55 ↗ yes thank you um is there anyone who's

2:44:58 ↗ prepared to make a

2:45:00 ↗ motion council president hunt thank you

2:45:03 ↗ this is council president hunt I mve to

2:45:05 ↗ direct the administration to bring

2:45:07 ↗ ab813 housing stability local defense

2:45:10 ↗ against evictions back to the council

2:45:12 ↗ for consideration at the November 2nd

2:45:15 ↗ 2020 council meeting thank you is there

2:45:18 ↗ a

2:45:19 ↗ second count Deputy council president

2:45:22 ↗ Ray hi this is Chris Ray I'll second

2:45:24 ↗ that motion would thank you it's been

2:45:27 ↗ moved and seconded would anybody care to

2:45:29 ↗ speak to the

2:45:34 ↗ motion council president hunt thank you

2:45:38 ↗ um I'll just very briefly say I had a

2:45:40 ↗ lot of comments um prepared which now I

2:45:43 ↗ think we have

2:45:45 ↗ new information um and so considerably

2:45:48 ↗ less relevant but I did want to just

2:45:51 ↗ reiterate that um we have evidence and

2:45:55 ↗ data that supports so many of our

2:45:57 ↗ community members are struggling to pay

2:45:59 ↗ rent are behind on rent and um really

2:46:03 ↗ want to keep this issue um at the

2:46:07 ↗ Forefront because I think it's an

2:46:08 ↗ upcoming issue that we're we're not

2:46:11 ↗ seeing the effects of all of we're not

2:46:13 ↗ seeing in the community all the effects

2:46:14 ↗ of people being behind on the rent

2:46:16 ↗ because of this moratorium but the

2:46:17 ↗ moratorium will eventually end and so I

2:46:20 ↗ really want to prepare for that and I I

2:46:22 ↗ continue to think that that's very

2:46:24 ↗ important um so this postponement uh

2:46:27 ↗ does not in my mind lessen that it just

2:46:31 ↗ is the reality that we continue to get

2:46:33 ↗ new information and have to

2:46:36 ↗ adapt thank you for that uh council

2:46:39 ↗ member Goodman thank you um council

2:46:41 ↗ member Goodman here um so as we spend an

2:46:45 ↗ extraordinary amount of time on this uh

2:46:48 ↗ I think uh one issue that we haven't

2:46:51 ↗ addressed is what will role we want to

2:46:53 ↗ play in trying to um uh talk to the

2:46:58 ↗ legislature about what they may be able

2:47:00 ↗ to do to address this at a Statewide

2:47:02 ↗ level you know we've talked about before

2:47:05 ↗ or I've talked about before that the

2:47:07 ↗ response um by the state legislature um

2:47:10 ↗ not only here but elsewhere across the

2:47:12 ↗ country has been to adopt um

2:47:16 ↗ uh some simil similar mediation measures

2:47:20 ↗ before trustees can foreclose on housing

2:47:23 ↗ because we had a lot of folks who were

2:47:24 ↗ being kicked out of their houses they

2:47:26 ↗ were being foreclosed on when they

2:47:27 ↗ couldn't pay the U make the mortgage

2:47:29 ↗ payments after the um housing crisis in

2:47:31 ↗ two in 2008 um and so you know maybe

2:47:35 ↗ it's time for the legislature for do

2:47:37 ↗ doing something similar um requiring at

2:47:40 ↗ least requiring mediation in the

2:47:42 ↗ landlord uh residential landlord tenant

2:47:44 ↗ act in Washington um so I would be

2:47:46 ↗ interested to know um at what point

2:47:49 ↗ we're going to talk about um what

2:47:51 ↗ efforts we're going to take to try to

2:47:54 ↗ persuade the legislature that they

2:47:55 ↗ should do something because I you know I

2:47:58 ↗ we have spent a lot of energy on this um

2:48:02 ↗ but I in my mind you know this isn't

2:48:04 ↗ just an isqua problem it's not just a

2:48:06 ↗ King County problem it's a Statewide

2:48:07 ↗ problem and there should be a Statewide

2:48:12 ↗ solution thank you council member

2:48:13 ↗ Goodman

2:48:16 ↗ we will get back to you with that answer

2:48:18 ↗ uh council president

2:48:21 ↗ hunt thank you um council president hunt

2:48:24 ↗ I did want to respond I believe that and

2:48:26 ↗ I don't have it in front of me but I

2:48:27 ↗ believe that the legislative agenda is

2:48:30 ↗ going to come to Council on November 5th

2:48:32 ↗ so that could potentially you know

2:48:34 ↗ that's very near the date that is in the

2:48:37 ↗ motion um regarding this item and that

2:48:39 ↗ could be a time where we discuss the

2:48:41 ↗ role of isqua as far as talking with our

2:48:43 ↗ legislators and um having this in our

2:48:49 ↗ agenda thank you council president hunt

2:48:52 ↗ not saying any other got council member

2:48:54 ↗ Goodman thank you council member Goodman

2:48:56 ↗ here um I also believe that we have our

2:48:58 ↗ own Senator Mark mullet who um um for

2:49:01 ↗ now and um hopefully in the future is

2:49:04 ↗ also sitting on a very relevant

2:49:06 ↗ committee and so I'm sure that he would

2:49:08 ↗ be able to give us some information

2:49:09 ↗ about uh where the thoughts are so I

2:49:12 ↗ don't know that we need to wait until

2:49:13 ↗ November um I think we should be putting

2:49:15 ↗ some energy toward finding out what

2:49:17 ↗ direction the legis legislature U might

2:49:20 ↗ or might not be headed I think it's

2:49:21 ↗ valuable information so I don't think we

2:49:23 ↗ should wait until we start talking about

2:49:25 ↗ our legislative agenda but I don't

2:49:26 ↗ disagree that it's something that we

2:49:28 ↗ should um be thinking about for that

2:49:31 ↗ agenda thank you thank you both I'm

2:49:34 ↗ hoping City administrator Bob quitz made

2:49:36 ↗ a note for our lobbyist to do a little

2:49:38 ↗ bit of digging get some information

2:49:40 ↗ which is great I'm not seeing anything

2:49:43 ↗ else so the motion that has been moved

2:49:45 ↗ and seconded is to direct the

2:49:46 ↗ administration to bring

2:49:48 ↗ ab813 housing stability local defense

2:49:52 ↗ against evictions back to the council

2:49:53 ↗ for consideration at the November 2nd

2:49:56 ↗ 2020 council meeting and I'll go to the

2:49:58 ↗ city clerk for a roll call

2:50:00 ↗ Vote Yes Deputy council president Ray

2:50:04 ↗ I council member Walsh I council member

2:50:09 ↗ D Michelle hi council member Goodman I

2:50:14 ↗ counc member

2:50:15 ↗ Hall hi council president hunt hi

2:50:20 ↗ council member Marts hi at 7 I zero nay

2:50:25 ↗ thank you that passes unanimously and

2:50:27 ↗ the item will be back at November 2nd so

2:50:30 ↗ I'll go to the next item under regular

2:50:32 ↗ business which is AB

2:50:35 ↗ 8044 Outreach and Case Management

2:50:37 ↗ Services for individuals experience

2:50:40 ↗ homelessness pilot program and the

2:50:42 ↗ request before the council this evening

2:50:44 ↗ is to authorize this this is the first

2:50:47 ↗ time this item has come before Council

2:50:49 ↗ and I'd like to invite Human Services

2:50:51 ↗ and social sustainability coordinator

2:50:54 ↗ Monica negrilla to introduce this item

2:50:58 ↗ Monica thank you Madame mayor uh good

2:51:01 ↗ evening again um so with this agenda

2:51:05 ↗ bill tonight we are seeking Council

2:51:07 ↗ approval to authorize one an Outreach

2:51:11 ↗ and case management pilot program uh to

2:51:14 ↗ provide services to individuals who are

2:51:16 ↗ homeless in isqua beginning November 1st

2:51:18 ↗ of this year um as a small note in your

2:51:22 ↗ budget proposal for 2021 uh you will

2:51:25 ↗ find a recommendation from the Human

2:51:26 ↗ Services Commission to authorize uh the

2:51:30 ↗ program for the 2021 2022 Human Services

2:51:33 ↗ funding cycle uh however tonight's

2:51:36 ↗ program focuses only on the remaining

2:51:38 ↗ months for

2:51:40 ↗ 2020 and the second item um with this

2:51:44 ↗ agenda the bill uh we are also seeking

2:51:46 ↗ Council approval to allocate money for

2:51:50 ↗ the proposed project um we are seeking

2:51:53 ↗ um Council approval to authorize

2:51:56 ↗ $25,000 of the cares act funds towards

2:51:59 ↗ this program uh These funds are from on

2:52:03 ↗ the

2:52:04 ↗ $63,000 previously allocated to be used

2:52:08 ↗ uh for expenses incurred by the city

2:52:11 ↗ during the covid-19 pandemic um and

2:52:15 ↗ these money were allocated at the 21st

2:52:18 ↗ um on September 21st at the September

2:52:21 ↗ 21st council meeting I

2:52:23 ↗ apologize um so um going back to provide

2:52:26 ↗ a little bit of context and background

2:52:29 ↗ to the pilot program um earlier this

2:52:32 ↗ year in February we sought Council

2:52:35 ↗ approval to set aside approximately 10

2:52:38 ↗ to

2:52:39 ↗ 12% of the 2021 2022 Human Services

2:52:43 ↗ Grant allocations uh to fund an Outreach

2:52:46 ↗ and case management pilot program for

2:52:48 ↗ individuals who are homeless uh this was

2:52:50 ↗ identified as a need due to the limited

2:52:52 ↗ Outreach Services available through the

2:52:55 ↗ existing services from the regional

2:52:57 ↗ providers um the new program would

2:53:00 ↗ exclusively serve isqua as a direct

2:53:03 ↗ resource to help support the local law

2:53:05 ↗ enforcement the First Responders the

2:53:08 ↗ school district as well as other

2:53:10 ↗ community providers such as the library

2:53:13 ↗ uh the senior center the Community

2:53:14 ↗ Center the meals programs and um local

2:53:19 ↗ businesses so uh request for proposal

2:53:22 ↗ was issued in March and the Human

2:53:24 ↗ Services Commission participated in the

2:53:26 ↗ review of the RFP and they folded the

2:53:29 ↗ recommendation with the rest of the 2021

2:53:31 ↗ 2022 Human Services funding

2:53:33 ↗ recommendations to the mayor and city

2:53:37 ↗ council um another small side note here

2:53:41 ↗ uh in previous years the Human Services

2:53:43 ↗ Grant recommendation s uh were approved

2:53:46 ↗ separately by city council outside of

2:53:48 ↗ the budget process however this year um

2:53:51 ↗ we included them in the 2021 proposed

2:53:54 ↗ budget um in order to better align the

2:53:57 ↗ granting process with the budget

2:53:58 ↗ timeline and provide city council the

2:54:01 ↗ opportunity to consider the allocations

2:54:03 ↗ in the context of the entire city budget

2:54:06 ↗ um so if approved this program um is set

2:54:09 ↗ to begin January

2:54:11 ↗ 1st um also a note about the sept mber

2:54:14 ↗ 21st council meeting I think as I said

2:54:16 ↗ earlier at that meeting city council

2:54:19 ↗ authorized um over

2:54:22 ↗ $500,000 um to um help with economic

2:54:27 ↗ development and Human Services needs and

2:54:29 ↗ the remaining

2:54:30 ↗ $63,000 were going to cover City costs

2:54:33 ↗ so um the $25,000 that we are proposing

2:54:36 ↗ tonight would come out of those

2:54:39 ↗ $63,000 allocated for to cover City

2:54:43 ↗ costs um uh so with that background

2:54:45 ↗ coming back to the actual proposal in

2:54:47 ↗ front of you tonight um we are here um

2:54:51 ↗ because we would like to request

2:54:53 ↗ approval from city council to utilize a

2:54:56 ↗ portion of those cares act funds to

2:54:58 ↗ begin uh offering homeless uh Outreach

2:55:01 ↗ and Case Management Services as of

2:55:03 ↗ November 1st um this would provide us an

2:55:06 ↗ opportunity to begin Services before the

2:55:08 ↗ winter sets and be responsive to the

2:55:11 ↗ needs in our community um a few of the

2:55:14 ↗ details of the program include um

2:55:16 ↗ engaging proactively uh and creating

2:55:19 ↗ meaningful contacts and connections with

2:55:21 ↗ individuals experiencing homelessness uh

2:55:23 ↗ work oneon-one and engage people in

2:55:25 ↗ services and then maintain active

2:55:27 ↗ contact with them as participants um go

2:55:31 ↗ through um um the phases of community

2:55:34 ↗ reintegration process um also Pro be a

2:55:39 ↗ support and develop relationships with

2:55:41 ↗ the local service providers is noted

2:55:43 ↗ earlier track data and outcome

2:55:46 ↗ measures um the Outreach um program

2:55:50 ↗ would also um work directly with the

2:55:54 ↗ city's Police Department um and with the

2:55:57 ↗ parks and community services department

2:55:59 ↗ and act as a resource to the current

2:56:01 ↗ approach to encampment and pan

2:56:04 ↗ handling um another note that I would

2:56:07 ↗ like to make since I um earlier tonight

2:56:10 ↗ the Community Hall was mentioned as a

2:56:13 ↗ space to provide a Services um I would

2:56:16 ↗ like to highlight that we had discussed

2:56:18 ↗ space options with the food bank while

2:56:21 ↗ many of the services provided would um

2:56:24 ↗ be happening in the community um

2:56:27 ↗ visiting uh encampments and uh where um

2:56:31 ↗ homeless individuals are um we are also

2:56:35 ↗ trying to balance the need for a space

2:56:38 ↗ and the Community Hall as mentioned was

2:56:40 ↗ discussed actually currently the

2:56:41 ↗ existing case manager from the food bank

2:56:44 ↗ has an office space at the Community

2:56:46 ↗ Hall that they use for individual

2:56:47 ↗ meetings and um in addition um we also

2:56:51 ↗ discussed um this um the food bank

2:56:56 ↗ discussed um with Eide fire rescue the

2:56:59 ↗ option to expand that existing space

2:57:01 ↗ into the firehouse in one of their

2:57:03 ↗ offices um we are also working um with

2:57:07 ↗ the other providers especially the meal

2:57:10 ↗ providers um in coming up with a

2:57:12 ↗ schedule um for the space and um

2:57:16 ↗ coordinate um with with their schedule

2:57:19 ↗ as well to have access to the Community

2:57:21 ↗ Hall um for those

2:57:25 ↗ Services um additional details regarding

2:57:28 ↗ outcomes and program evaluation are

2:57:30 ↗ included in your agenda packet and we

2:57:32 ↗ can discuss them in further details if

2:57:34 ↗ needed um to summarize though we would

2:57:37 ↗ like to propose to use

2:57:40 ↗ $25,000 um of the 60 $3,000 originally

2:57:45 ↗ allocated to be used for um to cover

2:57:48 ↗ City

2:57:50 ↗ costs um for this

2:57:54 ↗ program

2:57:55 ↗ [Music]

2:57:56 ↗ and the other brief notes that I would

2:58:00 ↗ like to make perhaps I'm trying to

2:58:02 ↗ summarize and see what would be helpful

2:58:05 ↗ um but in terms of the 2021

2:58:08 ↗ funding um the cost just again just

2:58:11 ↗ trying to be very clear the cost for the

2:58:13 ↗ 20 21 funding um would come through the

2:58:17 ↗ Human Services Grants process and that

2:58:19 ↗ is a program and the project that city

2:58:22 ↗ council can um further discuss during

2:58:25 ↗ the budget

2:58:26 ↗ conversations um and then just keeping

2:58:29 ↗ uh separate um the agenda bill for

2:58:32 ↗ tonight uh that basically focuses on

2:58:34 ↗ reallocating the cares act money to

2:58:37 ↗ begin this service

2:58:40 ↗ sooner

2:58:42 ↗ um and with that I I think I'm going to

2:58:44 ↗ stop here and again we can go into

2:58:46 ↗ further

2:58:47 ↗ details um regarding the outcomes or any

2:58:50 ↗ other questions that council members

2:58:53 ↗ might have thank you Monica I believe

2:58:56 ↗ the city administrator Bob Kitz would

2:58:57 ↗ like to make a comment as well yes thank

2:59:00 ↗ you Madame mayor members of the council

2:59:02 ↗ uh I'd like to maybe take a couple steps

2:59:04 ↗ backwards as to provide some additional

2:59:06 ↗ context as to why we're here um many of

2:59:09 ↗ you have noticed many of our community

2:59:10 ↗ members have noticed a a difference in

2:59:13 ↗ and the the visibility of homeless uh

2:59:16 ↗ individuals here in isqua certainly we'

2:59:18 ↗ this is not a new situation uh but we

2:59:21 ↗ have uh been seeing more people uh

2:59:24 ↗ living outside camping outside more

2:59:26 ↗ people uh at intersections listening for

2:59:29 ↗ for money uh and one of the questions

2:59:31 ↗ that has been raised by mayor Paulie and

2:59:33 ↗ many of you are what are our existing

2:59:36 ↗ programs what are our existing tools

2:59:38 ↗ that we use uh to try to provide

2:59:41 ↗ assistance so I wanted just to take a

2:59:43 ↗ brief moment between uh Monica and the

2:59:47 ↗ police chief Scott beerbom who's also on

2:59:49 ↗ the line uh to kind of talk about what

2:59:52 ↗ our current practices and policies are

2:59:55 ↗ in dealing with uh individuals who are

2:59:58 ↗ homeless individuals who find themselves

3:00:00 ↗ living outside um one of the things I

3:00:03 ↗ think you will hear is that we have good

3:00:06 ↗ practices on an initial contact but

3:00:09 ↗ really very wor follow through and I

3:00:11 ↗ think the opportunity recognizing ing

3:00:14 ↗ what has already been recommended by the

3:00:16 ↗ Human Services uh commission for the

3:00:18 ↗ year beginning January 1 that this was

3:00:20 ↗ an opportunity uh to begin filling in

3:00:23 ↗ was apparently a fairly significant Gap

3:00:25 ↗ in uh helping people here in isqua so

3:00:28 ↗ Monica a chief P bomb would you like to

3:00:31 ↗ talk a little bit about what our current

3:00:33 ↗ practices have been uh when we

3:00:36 ↗ understand that there's individuals

3:00:37 ↗ living outside either in a tent um in a

3:00:41 ↗ public structure um on private property

3:00:43 ↗ and What U Services we provide what

3:00:46 ↗ notifications we

3:00:50 ↗ provide Chief do you want to

3:00:52 ↗ start yes thank you City administrator

3:00:54 ↗ Bob Quicks and thank you city council um

3:00:59 ↗ this this opportunity provides us an

3:01:01 ↗ additional tool for our officers who are

3:01:05 ↗ um observing and contacting those in the

3:01:08 ↗ community that are in need of housing um

3:01:11 ↗ currently our current responses our

3:01:14 ↗ police officers or other city employees

3:01:15 ↗ such as some of our Parks employees uh

3:01:18 ↗ initiate contact with those that um

3:01:20 ↗ appear to be experiencing um

3:01:23 ↗ homelessness we have limited resources

3:01:26 ↗ locally um as mentioned earlier in

3:01:28 ↗ citizen comments um it would then

3:01:30 ↗ hopefully localize and bring those

3:01:33 ↗ resources that we have to bear to those

3:01:35 ↗ individuals um our police officers make

3:01:38 ↗ contact our initial response is really

3:01:40 ↗ only able to put a Band-Aid on uh what

3:01:43 ↗ the issue is we might be able to connect

3:01:45 ↗ people to mobile crisis unit which would

3:01:47 ↗ respond and provide some initial

3:01:49 ↗ Services maybe temporary housing um

3:01:52 ↗ again trying to get somebody into uh

3:01:54 ↗ access the the different Services

3:01:56 ↗ through the system uh but then not

3:01:59 ↗ necessarily able to have that follow-up

3:02:01 ↗ contact with those individuals uh so

3:02:04 ↗ this is provides an additional

3:02:05 ↗ opportunity to have more of that

3:02:07 ↗ continuous contact uh the proactive

3:02:10 ↗ Outreach um as opposed to sometimes

3:02:13 ↗ active Outreach that we currently have

3:02:15 ↗ uh due to just all balancing all calls

3:02:18 ↗ for service within within our

3:02:21 ↗ community I'll I'll stop right there for

3:02:24 ↗ for

3:02:25 ↗ now Monica would you like to add

3:02:30 ↗ anything um not at this time unless

3:02:33 ↗ there are specific if there's a specific

3:02:35 ↗ desire to go into the

3:02:38 ↗ processes we can see if this is the

3:02:41 ↗ mayor we can see if Council has any

3:02:42 ↗ additional questions questions I do know

3:02:44 ↗ that council president has received some

3:02:46 ↗ comments from the public that she would

3:02:47 ↗ like to share with Council this

3:02:49 ↗ evening thank you Madame Mary yes this

3:02:52 ↗ is council president Hunton we did

3:02:53 ↗ receive um several emails um they were

3:02:58 ↗ all uh we received three emails all in

3:03:00 ↗ support um one person wrote about

3:03:03 ↗ firsthand experience seeing an increase

3:03:06 ↗ um in the needs as a person working at

3:03:09 ↗ the squat food and clothing bank and

3:03:10 ↗ then um two other uh

3:03:14 ↗ two other emails from residents that

3:03:15 ↗ were in support of us um going forward

3:03:18 ↗ with this this evening additionally

3:03:20 ↗ there was a question which I believe

3:03:22 ↗ Monica answered regarding the Community

3:03:24 ↗ Hall space and also the needs for

3:03:26 ↗ equipment that would be associated with

3:03:29 ↗ the program um and then also I realized

3:03:32 ↗ that uh I didn't read comments on that

3:03:35 ↗ we have received on the last bill

3:03:37 ↗ because we didn't really um deliberate

3:03:39 ↗ on the bill because we had new

3:03:41 ↗ information but I did want to

3:03:42 ↗ acknowledge that we received on that

3:03:44 ↗ last bill which is the housing um uh

3:03:48 ↗ housing stability local defense against

3:03:50 ↗ eviction we did receive a number of um

3:03:53 ↗ emails from residents on that as well um

3:03:56 ↗ by my account between now and the last

3:03:59 ↗ time we spoke about that we received two

3:04:01 ↗ in support of mediation one that

3:04:03 ↗ contained data about the escalating

3:04:05 ↗ number of folks in the region that are

3:04:07 ↗ behind on rent and the racial disparity

3:04:10 ↗ as well about people affected um by the

3:04:13 ↗ economic downturn in covid and being

3:04:15 ↗ behind on rent um and then also to in

3:04:20 ↗ opposition um or one one um resident

3:04:24 ↗ wrote about if it must pass um going

3:04:26 ↗ with the mediation option and then one

3:04:28 ↗ in opposition um with concerns about the

3:04:33 ↗ uh defense against eviction being unfair

3:04:35 ↗ to one particular housing sector so I

3:04:37 ↗ wanted to make sure that I acknowledge

3:04:39 ↗ those as well for the sake of

3:04:41 ↗ transparency thank you for doing that

3:04:44 ↗ um back to um AB

3:04:48 ↗ 8044 we've had comment from the public

3:04:51 ↗ that was written time for Council

3:04:53 ↗ questions so if you have any questions

3:04:55 ↗ on the information presented by Monica

3:04:57 ↗ and our news Chief and to the

3:05:00 ↗ administrator tonight please put those

3:05:01 ↗ over in the chat

3:05:07 ↗ box I give a few seconds and if the oh

3:05:11 ↗ there we go uh let's start with with

3:05:13 ↗ Deputy council president Ray thank you

3:05:16 ↗ mayor Paulie this is Chris Ray uh two

3:05:18 ↗ really uh quick questions one is um just

3:05:23 ↗ to confirm that the the money that we

3:05:25 ↗ are discussing tonight is for the

3:05:28 ↗ balance of 20120 and then we will look

3:05:31 ↗ for something in the budget

3:05:33 ↗ deliberations that would fund these this

3:05:36 ↗ position and these activities going

3:05:38 ↗ forward into 2021 is that is that

3:05:41 ↗ correct yes it's correct we're proposing

3:05:43 ↗ to use car's act money for the balance

3:05:45 ↗ of 2020 and included in the mayor's 2021

3:05:48 ↗ budget uh from the Human Services uh

3:05:51 ↗ board allocations is funds for this uh

3:05:54 ↗ for the balance of

3:05:56 ↗ 2021 just because I haven't gotten

3:05:58 ↗ through the entire budget book yet you

3:06:00 ↗ know what what is the uh what's the ask

3:06:03 ↗ for

3:06:05 ↗ 2021 Monica do you have the precise

3:06:07 ↗ number yes it is

3:06:10 ↗ $73,000 um for 20

3:06:16 ↗ great thank

3:06:17 ↗ you thank you Deputy council president

3:06:19 ↗ let's go to council member D

3:06:22 ↗ Michelle uh thank you mayor paully um

3:06:25 ↗ Monica um I know that isqua food and

3:06:28 ↗ clothing bank would administer this

3:06:30 ↗ program um and we've had you know really

3:06:33 ↗ excellent um case management going on

3:06:36 ↗ there already are we talking about

3:06:39 ↗ adding Personnel or is this an extension

3:06:42 ↗ of the current case manager load or um

3:06:46 ↗ if if you know the answer to that I a

3:06:48 ↗ little bit more information about how

3:06:51 ↗ that's going to be handled at um at the

3:06:53 ↗ food and clothing bank thank you uh yes

3:06:56 ↗ thank you so much for that question yes

3:06:58 ↗ we are looking at expanding their Case

3:07:00 ↗ Management Services we are currently

3:07:02 ↗ working with the food bank on a job

3:07:04 ↗ description that's being actually posted

3:07:06 ↗ I think in the next day or or two um and

3:07:10 ↗ also we are coordinating with Eide fire

3:07:12 ↗ rescue with their um mih program that's

3:07:15 ↗ also looking into an um extension of

3:07:19 ↗ services Monica could you expand on

3:07:23 ↗ mih uh yes I apologize for that it's the

3:07:27 ↗ mobile Integrated Health Team um and the

3:07:31 ↗ isaa food and clothing bank is

3:07:32 ↗ collaborating with um iside fire rescue

3:07:35 ↗ on that project uh which um focuses on

3:07:39 ↗ um working with um repeat callers

3:07:43 ↗ um who um are in need of Social Services

3:07:47 ↗ um in in Thea quum team thank you that's

3:07:51 ↗ fantastic also have a a question from

3:07:53 ↗ Council president

3:07:56 ↗ hunt thank you Miss council president

3:07:59 ↗ hunt um as I as I mentioned we did

3:08:01 ↗ receive some specific questions about

3:08:04 ↗ equipment needs and the need for um

3:08:07 ↗ phones and computers and those sorts of

3:08:09 ↗ um equipment to support a program where

3:08:12 ↗ people um might not have access to those

3:08:15 ↗ things especially now it was pointed out

3:08:17 ↗ especially now um when a lot of

3:08:20 ↗ facilities are closed or there are

3:08:22 ↗ health concerns with congregating and so

3:08:25 ↗ I wondered if you could speak to um the

3:08:28 ↗ equipment aspect of the program and how

3:08:31 ↗ that will be dealt with um especially in

3:08:33 ↗ the near term when we have a lot of um

3:08:37 ↗ health related precautions about

3:08:40 ↗ Gathering right yes thank you so much

3:08:42 ↗ for that um question um the $25,000 that

3:08:46 ↗ we are proposing tonight those dollars

3:08:49 ↗ include setup costs um um partially the

3:08:54 ↗ $25,000 would cover two months worth of

3:08:56 ↗ Staffing costs and then about 10 to ,000

3:09:00 ↗ setup cost for um exactly those items

3:09:03 ↗ that were mentioned from computer and

3:09:05 ↗ phone needs or other uh basic um needs

3:09:09 ↗ from hygiene and clothing um that would

3:09:12 ↗ be disperse to the individuals that um

3:09:15 ↗ the case managers would engage with um

3:09:19 ↗ so those are the initial costs that we

3:09:21 ↗ would hope to

3:09:23 ↗ use council president hunt does that

3:09:26 ↗ answer your

3:09:27 ↗ question it does I think the other piece

3:09:30 ↗ is concerned about the additional space

3:09:33 ↗ needs um as because um of covid but um

3:09:38 ↗ that I imagine also might need to be

3:09:40 ↗ worked out it's a concern that was

3:09:42 ↗ expressed though

3:09:44 ↗ thank you I am not seeing any additional

3:09:47 ↗ questions or comments at this time would

3:09:49 ↗ someone care to make a

3:09:54 ↗ motion council president

3:09:56 ↗ hunt thank you I move to number one

3:10:01 ↗ authorize and Outreach and Case

3:10:02 ↗ Management Services for individuals

3:10:05 ↗ experiencing homelessness pilot program

3:10:07 ↗ as presented in AB 844 beginning

3:10:10 ↗ November 1st 2020 and number two

3:10:14 ↗ allocates $225,000 of the 63

3:10:19 ↗ 850 um coronavirus Aid relief and

3:10:23 ↗ economic security cares act funds

3:10:25 ↗ designated to the city by the state of

3:10:26 ↗ Washington that were previously

3:10:28 ↗ allocated for reimbursement of expenses

3:10:30 ↗ incurred by the city related to the

3:10:32 ↗ pandemic at the September 21st 2020

3:10:35 ↗ council meeting to fund the pilot

3:10:37 ↗ program for the remainder of 2020 and

3:10:40 ↗ number three direct the finance director

3:10:42 ↗ to include the the revenue and related

3:10:43 ↗ expenditures in a subse in a subsequent

3:10:46 ↗ 2020 budget

3:10:48 ↗ amendment and council member Goodman yes

3:10:51 ↗ thank you council member Goodman here

3:10:53 ↗ I'd like to second that thanks great

3:10:55 ↗ it's been moved and seconded would

3:10:58 ↗ anybody like to speak to the motion

3:11:00 ↗ council president H would you like to

3:11:01 ↗ speak to the

3:11:03 ↗ motion thank you um this is council

3:11:06 ↗ president hunt I think that there's a

3:11:09 ↗ clear need for these Services um while

3:11:12 ↗ we haven't been discussing the specific

3:11:14 ↗ program I think we have discussed the

3:11:15 ↗ need for connecting um individuals

3:11:18 ↗ experiencing homelessness with the

3:11:20 ↗ services that they need um multiple

3:11:23 ↗ times and definitely we've also seen an

3:11:25 ↗ increase in um the increase in the

3:11:29 ↗ number of um residents who have reached

3:11:32 ↗ out with concerns about this in um

3:11:35 ↗ there's been an escalation in those

3:11:36 ↗ concerns expressed to us and so I

3:11:38 ↗ appreciate that this was brought forward

3:11:40 ↗ in a timely um very quick manner to um

3:11:45 ↗ expedite the program um and I am in

3:11:50 ↗ support and I um will be interested to

3:11:55 ↗ see uh in the budget deliberations about

3:11:57 ↗ the future funding for the program the

3:11:59 ↗ one concern I had about the agenda item

3:12:03 ↗ as was presented was um I believe that

3:12:06 ↗ it is it is in the agenda packet it is

3:12:10 ↗ um suggested that we could use the Human

3:12:13 ↗ Services grant funding um for this in

3:12:16 ↗ the future and while I think that we can

3:12:19 ↗ discuss that I would also consider using

3:12:21 ↗ other funding because that we have

3:12:24 ↗ escalating needs in that area and

3:12:26 ↗ potentially limited um Grant capacity as

3:12:30 ↗ it is other than that I'm very

3:12:31 ↗ supportive of the program and we're not

3:12:32 ↗ deciding on future funding this evening

3:12:35 ↗ thank you council president H uh council

3:12:37 ↗ member Goodman would you like to make a

3:12:39 ↗ comment and then if we'll be followed by

3:12:41 ↗ council member D Michelle

3:12:43 ↗ um I I'm just um um very supportive and

3:12:48 ↗ glad that this was brought forward

3:12:49 ↗ sooner so thank you awesome council

3:12:52 ↗ member D

3:12:54 ↗ Michelle um I have the same comment I

3:12:56 ↗ really uh commend the timeliness of this

3:12:59 ↗ and the respons responsiveness to the

3:13:02 ↗ members of our community uh I also want

3:13:05 ↗ to say that I'm very um heartened by the

3:13:09 ↗ way that been configured um that this uh

3:13:12 ↗ individual who whoever it may be who

3:13:15 ↗ will be doing the Outreach Services is

3:13:16 ↗ going to work with our entire community

3:13:19 ↗ and with many key players who um are

3:13:22 ↗ needing to address homelessness uh the

3:13:24 ↗ school district our police officers um

3:13:27 ↗ many other people in the community and I

3:13:30 ↗ think that this will be a wonderful

3:13:32 ↗ support uh for those individuals who

3:13:35 ↗ have been dealing with homelessness and

3:13:38 ↗ have not had the resources as uh Chief

3:13:40 ↗ beerbom said to follow through

3:13:43 ↗ and um hopefully we will begin to see

3:13:46 ↗ people moving out of homelessness uh

3:13:49 ↗ through this program I have no Illusions

3:13:51 ↗ about how easy that will be it won't be

3:13:54 ↗ easy it's a difficult process but uh at

3:13:57 ↗ least we will have someone out there

3:13:58 ↗ working on it so I too will be

3:14:00 ↗ supporting this and I I commend um

3:14:04 ↗ Monica and everybody who worked on this

3:14:06 ↗ for being so uh responsive thank you

3:14:09 ↗ thank you council member D Michelle I am

3:14:12 ↗ not not seeing any other comments in the

3:14:15 ↗ chat box uh so I will reread the motion

3:14:18 ↗ that is on the

3:14:20 ↗ table the motion is to authorize an

3:14:22 ↗ Outreach and Case Management Services

3:14:25 ↗ for individuals experiencing

3:14:26 ↗ homelessness pilot program as presented

3:14:29 ↗ in AB

3:14:30 ↗ 8044 beginning November 1st 2020 and

3:14:34 ↗ allocating

3:14:35 ↗ $25,000 of the

3:14:38 ↗ 63,800 Corona virus Aid relief and

3:14:41 ↗ Economic Security Security Act funds or

3:14:44 ↗ cares act funds designated to the city

3:14:47 ↗ by the state of Washington that were

3:14:49 ↗ previously allocated for reimbursement

3:14:51 ↗ of expenses incurred by the city related

3:14:54 ↗ to the pandemic at the September 21st

3:14:56 ↗ 2020 council meeting to fund the pilot

3:14:59 ↗ program for the remainder of 2020 and to

3:15:02 ↗ direct the finance director to include

3:15:04 ↗ the revenue and related expenditures in

3:15:07 ↗ the subsequent 2020 budget amendment and

3:15:10 ↗ we'll get the city clerk to call the

3:15:11 ↗ Roll Call

3:15:13 ↗ vote Yes beginning with council member

3:15:17 ↗ Walsh

3:15:19 ↗ I council member D Michelle I council

3:15:23 ↗ member Goodman I council member Hall I

3:15:29 ↗ council president hunt I council member

3:15:33 ↗ Marts I Deputy council president Ray I

3:15:38 ↗ at s i zero naay thank you very much C K

3:15:42 ↗ clerk that passes

3:15:44 ↗ unanimously we do still have another

3:15:47 ↗ item on our agenda this evening and it

3:15:49 ↗ was it is AB 7941 establishing the

3:15:53 ↗ environmental board and repealing IMC

3:15:56 ↗ 18.03 regarding the rivers and streams

3:15:58 ↗ board the request before Council this

3:16:01 ↗ evening is to adopt the ordinance and

3:16:03 ↗ this item was last before council at the

3:16:05 ↗ August 3rd city council meeting um

3:16:08 ↗ before we move into the presentation

3:16:10 ↗ City administrator you had suggest Ed

3:16:12 ↗ possibly moving this meeting to another

3:16:15 ↗ night we have had the council here for

3:16:19 ↗ almost 4 hours um are we planning to

3:16:23 ↗ continue with this item this

3:16:25 ↗ evening um I I think that's really a

3:16:29 ↗ question for the council this has been

3:16:30 ↗ four months of difficult work we've had

3:16:33 ↗ uh this has been the third time it's

3:16:35 ↗ been at the council we've had two

3:16:36 ↗ Community meetings we've been to

3:16:37 ↗ planning policy twice uh we feel that

3:16:40 ↗ the ordinance is ready to move forward

3:16:42 ↗ we have a presentation ready um it would

3:16:45 ↗ probably still be another half an hour

3:16:47 ↗ 45 minutes of discussion uh but again of

3:16:51 ↗ all the work that we have done during

3:16:53 ↗ the covid-19 crisis this is probably the

3:16:55 ↗ single issue that we have devoted the

3:16:57 ↗ most energy and time working with the

3:16:59 ↗ community on so if the council's up to

3:17:01 ↗ it we'd like to give it a try if not

3:17:03 ↗ we'll come back on the

3:17:05 ↗ 19th so I guess what I'd like to do is

3:17:08 ↗ check in with the seven council members

3:17:10 ↗ I know that um some have very specific

3:17:13 ↗ questions and council member Goodman

3:17:16 ↗ mentioned earlier even a desire to send

3:17:18 ↗ it back to planning policy so this could

3:17:21 ↗ be a lengthy conversation um what are

3:17:24 ↗ your

3:17:29 ↗ thoughts council member Goodman why

3:17:31 ↗ don't you take a crack at it

3:17:34 ↗ first thank you I think um council

3:17:37 ↗ member Gman here I um I'm happy to do

3:17:41 ↗ what everybody else wants to do um uh

3:17:46 ↗ I'm happy to um if everybody else wants

3:17:50 ↗ to listen to the presentation um uh

3:17:54 ↗ that's fine I am going to be like I said

3:17:57 ↗ earlier going to be making a motion

3:17:58 ↗ anyway um to refer it back to PBC um uh

3:18:03 ↗ with uh seven specific questions um and

3:18:08 ↗ so it's really what everybody else wants

3:18:10 ↗ to do um

3:18:13 ↗ so I will keep checking in council

3:18:15 ↗ member D

3:18:17 ↗ Michelle um I would like to hear the

3:18:19 ↗ presentation and hopefully move forward

3:18:22 ↗ on this tonight I'm looking back and

3:18:24 ↗ remembering the night when we first

3:18:26 ↗ started the discussion and we talked

3:18:28 ↗ about the urgency of getting this

3:18:32 ↗ environmental board up and running and

3:18:35 ↗ so I would like as as uh City

3:18:38 ↗ administrator Bob kit said I'd like to

3:18:40 ↗ give it a try tonight and see if we can

3:18:43 ↗ get it across the finish line thank you

3:18:46 ↗ sounds good Council uh Deputy council

3:18:48 ↗ president

3:18:49 ↗ Ray uh I if we can get this done tonight

3:18:52 ↗ I think that would be great I think that

3:18:53 ↗ council member Goodman has some genuine

3:18:55 ↗ concern I would like to before we even

3:18:57 ↗ do the presentation uh at least have a

3:18:59 ↗ discussion about what what um what the

3:19:04 ↗ motivation for pushing this back to PPC

3:19:06 ↗ would be because what I don't want to do

3:19:08 ↗ is to get down the road and then uh have

3:19:10 ↗ that discussion um later so if we could

3:19:13 ↗ do that first I think that would be good

3:19:15 ↗ and I think that'll inform where we go

3:19:17 ↗ from here so I have to check in with the

3:19:20 ↗ city clerk on that but noted and I will

3:19:23 ↗ um council member D Michelle you look

3:19:25 ↗ like you've signed up again or is that a

3:19:27 ↗ mistake okay uh Council M marks thank

3:19:31 ↗ you well of course I'm Full Throttle

3:19:33 ↗ ahead because until we get to seven

3:19:35 ↗ hours and 45 minutes we're not even

3:19:37 ↗ we're not even historical uh but I agree

3:19:40 ↗ with council member Ray that if the

3:19:42 ↗ council's we should consider sending it

3:19:45 ↗ back first because if we're going to

3:19:47 ↗ send it back anyhow we shouldn't I

3:19:49 ↗ wouldn't want to spend an hour on it and

3:19:50 ↗ then just send it

3:19:52 ↗ back be my my thoughts thank you thank

3:19:55 ↗ you and I'm not seeing anybody else wan

3:19:57 ↗ to comment so city clerk it sounds like

3:19:59 ↗ there's a could be a competing motion

3:20:02 ↗ here which is um that the council may

3:20:06 ↗ want to have a conversation about

3:20:08 ↗ whether or not they want to refer it

3:20:11 ↗ back

3:20:12 ↗ uh and provide specific questions for

3:20:15 ↗ planing policy to bring back to council

3:20:18 ↗ do we have to move into the process go

3:20:21 ↗ through the

3:20:21 ↗ presentation and um get to the motion

3:20:24 ↗ stage in order to be able to do that

3:20:26 ↗ from a process point of view um mayor

3:20:29 ↗ paully not from a process point of view

3:20:31 ↗ there I mean there might be some

3:20:33 ↗ practical benefit of of hearing some of

3:20:35 ↗ the updates but from a process

3:20:37 ↗ perspective council member Goodman or

3:20:39 ↗ anyone else could make a motion on this

3:20:41 ↗ item at this

3:20:42 ↗ point

3:20:44 ↗ okay so um council member Goodman if

3:20:47 ↗ you'd like to make a motion and uh then

3:20:51 ↗ um talk about the points that you have

3:20:53 ↗ in mind we can have a discussion and if

3:20:55 ↗ there are a majority of votes then it

3:20:57 ↗ can move back and if there is not a

3:20:59 ↗ majority of votes we will proceed with

3:21:00 ↗ the

3:21:02 ↗ presentation okay uh council member

3:21:04 ↗ Goodman here thank

3:21:05 ↗ you uh I I guess

3:21:09 ↗ one question I would have is

3:21:15 ↗ um I could make a I could make a motion

3:21:18 ↗ to refer this back to PPC at the first

3:21:23 ↗ available

3:21:25 ↗ opportunity to be return to the council

3:21:29 ↗ at the first available opportunity and I

3:21:31 ↗ would leave it up to the administration

3:21:33 ↗ and Leadership to figure out what those

3:21:35 ↗ two dates

3:21:36 ↗ are and

3:21:39 ↗ then I'll wait for a second and then I

3:21:41 ↗ think we have to talk about process a

3:21:43 ↗ little bit looking for a

3:21:46 ↗ second oh Council W council president

3:21:49 ↗ Ray this is uh Chris Ray I second that

3:21:52 ↗ motion and now I'm going to go to the

3:21:54 ↗ city of cleric and ask if it's okay not

3:21:56 ↗ to have specific dates in there um mayor

3:22:00 ↗ Polly it really is useful if not

3:22:03 ↗ required to have at least one Dave in

3:22:05 ↗ there so anyone who's following this

3:22:07 ↗ issue has some sense of when they should

3:22:09 ↗ be tuned in to hear about it next so

3:22:12 ↗ though maybe you can't anticipate the

3:22:14 ↗ PPC meeting date I think giving it a a

3:22:17 ↗ council return date would be

3:22:21 ↗ wise city administrator Bob quits do you

3:22:24 ↗ have a suggested Council return date for

3:22:25 ↗ the motion well I guess I'm more

3:22:27 ↗ concerned about PPC um they have two

3:22:30 ↗ meetings this week I know one's a joint

3:22:32 ↗ meeting with the development commission

3:22:34 ↗ uh and then another meeting they're

3:22:36 ↗ dealing with the comprehensive plan

3:22:38 ↗ amendments um my sense is that they

3:22:41 ↗ would not be able to get to this for a

3:22:43 ↗ while um I don't know if that's later in

3:22:47 ↗ November or December um the council's

3:22:50 ↗ calendar then is is fairly full um the

3:22:54 ↗ one meeting the council currently has in

3:22:56 ↗ December is December 7th um which I

3:22:59 ↗ believe would also be the comprehensive

3:23:01 ↗ plan amendments was that's normally a

3:23:03 ↗ big meeting to have so um you know it

3:23:08 ↗ could very well be uh the January 4th or

3:23:12 ↗ January uh 19th meetings of the council

3:23:17 ↗ was when it would come back and so I

3:23:19 ↗ guess if you need it a date

3:23:21 ↗ um I I just don't know when planning

3:23:24 ↗ policy would get to it they've spent

3:23:26 ↗ many many hours already uh discussing

3:23:29 ↗ this um so my guess if it's seven

3:23:32 ↗ questions it's probably could be many

3:23:34 ↗ many hours more there have been a core

3:23:36 ↗ group of members of the public who have

3:23:37 ↗ been very actively engaged on this and

3:23:40 ↗ have actively engaged at planning policy

3:23:43 ↗ um so I I just don't know how it comes

3:23:46 ↗ back before

3:23:47 ↗ January and so the date the date would

3:23:50 ↗ be the first council meeting in January

3:23:52 ↗ uh which would be January

3:23:56 ↗ 4th I'm just a couple of comments this

3:23:58 ↗ is the mayor

3:24:01 ↗ um depending on what is on the

3:24:03 ↗ comprehensive Plan

3:24:06 ↗ update uh really determines whether or

3:24:09 ↗ not that December conversation is a long

3:24:11 ↗ one or not sometimes it's

3:24:13 ↗ very um quick because planning policy

3:24:17 ↗ has done on the work so I'm not really

3:24:19 ↗ sure about whether or not that one is as

3:24:21 ↗ controversial an amendment as the

3:24:24 ↗ previous years but I think there's

3:24:25 ↗ possibility to have it on December 7th

3:24:27 ↗ depending on what's on the docket so thr

3:24:30 ↗ that out there as an option certainly

3:24:32 ↗ just trying to be realistic about the

3:24:34 ↗ workload that's that's out there and

3:24:36 ↗ it's also possible that if it's not

3:24:38 ↗ ready for the seventh it can move so

3:24:39 ↗ council member Goodman would you like to

3:24:41 ↗ includeed date in your um

3:24:45 ↗ motion uh sure let's do December 7th um

3:24:49 ↗ and then my understanding I guess we

3:24:51 ↗ need a do we need the second needs to

3:24:55 ↗ agree that would be Chris the the second

3:24:58 ↗ is more than happy is just a day that'll

3:25:00 ↗ live in

3:25:01 ↗ infamy just

3:25:04 ↗ saying more than happy to

3:25:07 ↗ agree okay um so let's go to some

3:25:11 ↗ comments and I'm looking in the chat

3:25:16 ↗ box council member Goodman You' asked

3:25:19 ↗ make a

3:25:20 ↗ comments uh that was no I think that was

3:25:24 ↗ an old one I just so if there's a

3:25:27 ↗ second then don't what's the next don't

3:25:30 ↗ we need to talk about what the actual

3:25:34 ↗ proposal would

3:25:35 ↗ be I think this would be your

3:25:37 ↗ opportunity to say for the following

3:25:39 ↗ reasons I believe sure these questions

3:25:42 ↗ were not answered and just sort of put

3:25:43 ↗ them on the record great thank you um so

3:25:46 ↗ I did spend um um time

3:25:50 ↗ um uh I didn't watch I listened because

3:25:53 ↗ I go on long walks and listen it's very

3:25:55 ↗ great to have something u fun to listen

3:25:56 ↗ to on long walks and runs um so anyway I

3:25:59 ↗ listen to many many hours of the um

3:26:01 ↗ planing policy commission and um it's

3:26:04 ↗ not that I don't believe their work

3:26:05 ↗ isn't good or I don't believe that the

3:26:07 ↗ administration's work isn't good um

3:26:09 ↗ however I uh I have concerns that in the

3:26:13 ↗ words of the planning policy commission

3:26:15 ↗ and they had many many comments about

3:26:17 ↗ this the cake not being fully baked not

3:26:19 ↗ having time it's not perfect we know

3:26:21 ↗ it's not we know it's not perfect um

3:26:23 ↗ it'll have to be it'll it it it needs I

3:26:26 ↗ guess it'll have to evolve they express

3:26:28 ↗ concern that they wanted to see it back

3:26:30 ↗ they express

3:26:32 ↗ concern that they weren't able to see

3:26:35 ↗ all the Amendments and what the public

3:26:38 ↗ was talking about in written form that

3:26:40 ↗ they um some of these are my words it

3:26:43 ↗ was difficult to consider all of that um

3:26:47 ↗ my

3:26:49 ↗ uh there they re there was some

3:26:52 ↗ information that was provided the night

3:26:53 ↗ before the meeting which the public

3:26:55 ↗ commented did not give them an

3:26:56 ↗ opportunity to present comments in

3:26:58 ↗ writing that made it a little more

3:27:01 ↗ difficult for PPC um to fully consider

3:27:04 ↗ those comments um which I can understand

3:27:08 ↗ um the there were a lot of ments about

3:27:12 ↗ needing just one more meeting um they

3:27:14 ↗ completely understood that things don't

3:27:16 ↗ have to be perfect they don't want to

3:27:17 ↗ get hung up on perfect and and I agree

3:27:19 ↗ with that I understand

3:27:22 ↗ um but some of the things that were um

3:27:25 ↗ that were said to for resolution made me

3:27:29 ↗ uncomfortable personally and that is

3:27:31 ↗ that we can come back we can make

3:27:32 ↗ changes we can revise PPC might be able

3:27:35 ↗ to see it the council can revise um I've

3:27:38 ↗ lived through several of these things um

3:27:40 ↗ I will mention the central isqua plan as

3:27:42 ↗ one where we were told we can um we can

3:27:46 ↗ turn around and and revise things it

3:27:48 ↗ took us a moratorium in order to revise

3:27:50 ↗ the central isqua plan um and to use

3:27:53 ↗ council member Mars you know measure

3:27:55 ↗ twice and cut once um it is important um

3:27:58 ↗ the community is invested the the

3:28:00 ↗ community um and the council is very

3:28:02 ↗ invested in this so um and at the very

3:28:06 ↗ end of the meeting I have to say for

3:28:08 ↗ folks who didn't watch it um there was a

3:28:11 ↗ recommendation to come back to the

3:28:12 ↗ council with some recommendations in a

3:28:15 ↗ letter and it was an awkward moment and

3:28:18 ↗ I would thought maybe it wasn't even

3:28:19 ↗ going to get a motion um my sense is

3:28:22 ↗ that there are several members that were

3:28:25 ↗ uncomfortable even supporting it that's

3:28:27 ↗ my

3:28:28 ↗ editorializing however I am not in favor

3:28:32 ↗ of just sending it back to do more work

3:28:35 ↗ I am I am proposing that we send it back

3:28:38 ↗ with a specific questions for the

3:28:40 ↗ commission

3:28:41 ↗ um to answer um based on um questions

3:28:46 ↗ that I believe the community asked that

3:28:47 ↗ didn't get answered and questions that

3:28:50 ↗ um I sensed from specific questions that

3:28:54 ↗ PPC members asked that they would like

3:28:56 ↗ an opportunity to answer those questions

3:28:59 ↗ and so um I've written those down um if

3:29:02 ↗ you'd like me to read them so you can

3:29:03 ↗ get a sense of how specific they are I

3:29:05 ↗ can do that I think that would be very

3:29:08 ↗ helpful I'm sorry that this is long um

3:29:11 ↗ Ian I'm sorry that I'm talking so long

3:29:13 ↗ the um in their letter they had I think

3:29:15 ↗ it was three items under um my question

3:29:17 ↗ for them under in your letter under

3:29:19 ↗ number one um you as in PPC expressed a

3:29:24 ↗ desire that decisions should have

3:29:25 ↗ greater

3:29:26 ↗ transparency are there any other changes

3:29:29 ↗ to the proposal you recommend that would

3:29:32 ↗ increase

3:29:33 ↗ transparency um in addition to

3:29:35 ↗ recommending that the board be made

3:29:36 ↗ aware of projects without critical areas

3:29:39 ↗ and why the administration determined

3:29:41 ↗ Community review was not necessary um I

3:29:44 ↗ just wanted them to have an opportunity

3:29:46 ↗ to expand more on transparency they were

3:29:48 ↗ very concerned about transparency number

3:29:51 ↗ two of their letter would they please

3:29:53 ↗ further explain how the bo how the

3:29:55 ↗ environmental board should be given

3:29:56 ↗ flexibility to determine topics IT

3:29:59 ↗ addresses what is lacking and how can

3:30:01 ↗ that be fixed in your opinion number

3:30:04 ↗ three do you recommend that

3:30:06 ↗ Transportation projects with critical

3:30:08 ↗ areas or significant tree impacts be

3:30:10 ↗ included Ed not just the transportation

3:30:13 ↗ Improvement plan and please explain

3:30:16 ↗ um this was brought up several times and

3:30:20 ↗ the answer I heard was um we have

3:30:23 ↗ Incorporated the transportation

3:30:25 ↗ Improvement plan but not Transportation

3:30:28 ↗ projects I listened to the full almost

3:30:30 ↗ three hours and I didn't hear an answer

3:30:32 ↗ to that and I think that the PBC

3:30:34 ↗ deserves an answer to the reasoning

3:30:35 ↗ behind that's not being recommended and

3:30:37 ↗ then whether or not PPC recommends it um

3:30:40 ↗ do you we recommend adding

3:30:42 ↗ significant um tree non-critical area

3:30:46 ↗ tree projects be

3:30:48 ↗ included number five uh should Duty

3:30:51 ↗ number four in the ordinance be revised

3:30:53 ↗ to require the board to work with staff

3:30:55 ↗ to develop and maintain the check list a

3:30:58 ↗ for all public and private projects and

3:31:00 ↗ B for the purpose of gathering data for

3:31:02 ↗ the board to evaluate the performance of

3:31:04 ↗ city regulations toward environmental

3:31:06 ↗ goals and objectives number six under

3:31:09 ↗ duties and responsibilities under

3:31:11 ↗ subsection 8 would you recommend adding

3:31:14 ↗ adding city council to the end so Duty

3:31:17 ↗ so subsection 8 would read carry out

3:31:19 ↗ other duties as may be prescribed by

3:31:22 ↗ city ordinance or as directed by the

3:31:24 ↗ mayor and AD or city council I want I

3:31:28 ↗ was interested to know if they think

3:31:29 ↗ they had concerns about having the mayor

3:31:32 ↗ have the ability to have only the mayor

3:31:35 ↗ have that ability um and express concern

3:31:38 ↗ um that they have or said no concern

3:31:41 ↗ with mayor Paulie but you never know who

3:31:43 ↗ the mayor's G to be um and and seven

3:31:46 ↗ please provide a recommendation

3:31:48 ↗ regarding the topic environmental

3:31:50 ↗ security and climate security um that

3:31:53 ↗ one of the Commissioners brought up a

3:31:54 ↗ few times I never really understood

3:31:56 ↗ during that long meeting what the

3:31:58 ↗ conversation had been between that

3:32:00 ↗ commissioner um and staff so it was just

3:32:03 ↗ very confusing um and then number eight

3:32:06 ↗ just give them obviously they can

3:32:08 ↗ provide any other recommendations or

3:32:09 ↗ feedback that comes up during that

3:32:10 ↗ meeting but those were all very specific

3:32:13 ↗ concerns that I have after listening to

3:32:15 ↗ that meeting based on questions that

3:32:17 ↗ weren't answered and comments that I

3:32:19 ↗ heard from PPC that were um stated

3:32:22 ↗ several times

3:32:24 ↗ um uh so anyway that's that's my

3:32:27 ↗ reasoning and it's not to say that you

3:32:30 ↗ know anybody has done a bad job um but

3:32:33 ↗ PPC I think deserves an opportunity to

3:32:36 ↗ finish the work that they've started and

3:32:37 ↗ that's my

3:32:39 ↗ reasoning thank you you and council

3:32:41 ↗ member Ray you did second it maybe for

3:32:44 ↗ discussion or maybe because you wanted

3:32:46 ↗ to speak to it

3:32:48 ↗ next no mostly I I seconded that because

3:32:51 ↗ I think we need to have that discussion

3:32:54 ↗ um and whether whether or not warrants

3:32:56 ↗ moving back and if there are significant

3:32:59 ↗ questions still remaining to be answered

3:33:01 ↗ by by PPC um I agree with council member

3:33:04 ↗ Goodman um you know sometimes we say

3:33:07 ↗ well we can move this forward and we'll

3:33:09 ↗ figure it out as we go um but then we

3:33:11 ↗ get down the road and it it becomes

3:33:13 ↗ harder to figure it out once we get

3:33:15 ↗ there so um and I know that we've been

3:33:18 ↗ working on this a long time and this is

3:33:19 ↗ something that's really important to the

3:33:21 ↗ community um but I also want to make

3:33:22 ↗ sure we get it right because this is

3:33:24 ↗ something we've been working on for a

3:33:25 ↗ long time and is really important to the

3:33:27 ↗ community and you know we may or may not

3:33:30 ↗ have you know an urgent need to to close

3:33:33 ↗ this up right away so you know one of my

3:33:35 ↗ questions is um you know as we debate

3:33:39 ↗ this is so what's the implication of

3:33:41 ↗ pushing this out a couple well

3:33:43 ↗ essentially a month um um you know what

3:33:47 ↗ what does that do to us and so I need to

3:33:49 ↗ understand that before we decide how to

3:33:51 ↗ balance up the um benefits of getting it

3:33:56 ↗ done with um giving ourselves more time

3:33:58 ↗ to get these questions answered that

3:34:00 ↗ that PC has um has surfaced so I'm going

3:34:05 ↗ to let um City administrator Bob quitz

3:34:07 ↗ um talk about what impacts that might be

3:34:10 ↗ and then it looks like we have some more

3:34:13 ↗ um questions coming so to administrator

3:34:16 ↗ Bob quitz thank you madam mayor members

3:34:18 ↗ of the council uh the discussions on

3:34:21 ↗ this point have been fascinating um

3:34:23 ↗ there is a lot of pent up frustration

3:34:26 ↗ among members of the council and the

3:34:28 ↗ community uh that we have not uh as a

3:34:31 ↗ community uh looked at projects uh as we

3:34:35 ↗ should with an environmental Focus

3:34:37 ↗ there's a lot of pent up frustration

3:34:39 ↗ that there's lots of larger policy

3:34:41 ↗ questions uh that we have ignored as a

3:34:44 ↗ community and a great desire to have a

3:34:46 ↗ citizen group uh focus on them um we've

3:34:50 ↗ had multiple Community meetings we've

3:34:51 ↗ had multiple touches at planning policy

3:34:54 ↗ uh we've had multiple touches here at

3:34:56 ↗ the city council there's a fundamental

3:34:58 ↗ policy question that only you all can

3:35:00 ↗ decide and that is what is the scope of

3:35:03 ↗ this group there are members of the

3:35:05 ↗ community that want every single project

3:35:08 ↗ every single permit to have public

3:35:11 ↗ scrutiny uh through Community meetings

3:35:14 ↗ uh through this board through other

3:35:16 ↗ boards um we can do that that is what

3:35:19 ↗ councils do they set they take Community

3:35:22 ↗ standards and translate them into policy

3:35:24 ↗ um but there are consequences to that

3:35:27 ↗ there are consequences of time there are

3:35:29 ↗ consequences of Staffing um and the

3:35:33 ↗ previous discussions that we've had with

3:35:34 ↗ the city council uh my understanding of

3:35:37 ↗ them has been that there's been an

3:35:38 ↗ interest in looking at the larger policy

3:35:41 ↗ questions and not a review of every

3:35:43 ↗ single project uh the discussion uh at

3:35:46 ↗ planning policy uh which has been uh

3:35:50 ↗ Guided by members of the community who

3:35:52 ↗ feel very strongly that there should be

3:35:54 ↗ a community review of everything that

3:35:57 ↗ staff has not been good stewards that

3:36:00 ↗ quite honestly Title 18 has not been a

3:36:02 ↗ good Steward so the solution is to

3:36:05 ↗ provide uh Community process for every

3:36:08 ↗ single project that we have we come

3:36:10 ↗ before the council uh the last time and

3:36:13 ↗ talked about this before we went back to

3:36:15 ↗ planning policy to say that there needs

3:36:17 ↗ from staff's opinion there needs to be

3:36:19 ↗ some threshold for that uh that has been

3:36:22 ↗ rejected by some members of the

3:36:24 ↗ community has been rejected by some

3:36:26 ↗ members of planning policy um that's up

3:36:28 ↗ for the council to decide um the

3:36:31 ↗ consequences of that are Staffing in

3:36:33 ↗ time and the ability to not have any

3:36:36 ↗ time to talk about larger issues um and

3:36:39 ↗ so I think we're at a Crossroads here we

3:36:41 ↗ can go back to planning policy and ask

3:36:44 ↗ the questions um and I I think what you

3:36:46 ↗ will hear is some members of planning

3:36:48 ↗ policy who feel based on community

3:36:51 ↗ comment uh that everything should be

3:36:53 ↗ looked at everything should be reviewed

3:36:56 ↗ um and if that's the case then that's

3:36:58 ↗ great and we will have to look at what

3:37:00 ↗ kind of Staffing we will have to work

3:37:02 ↗ with uh homeowners we will have to work

3:37:04 ↗ with land developers and say that those

3:37:07 ↗ processes are going to be very long

3:37:09 ↗ finally my concern is who going to serve

3:37:11 ↗ on this board you know how many nights a

3:37:13 ↗ month can we ask people to look at

3:37:15 ↗ specific projects and then turn around

3:37:17 ↗ and say there's a great desire for a

3:37:19 ↗ climate action plan in this community

3:37:21 ↗ what are we doing there there's a great

3:37:22 ↗ desire to look at uh how we use our

3:37:24 ↗ natural resources there's a great desire

3:37:26 ↗ to do a whole variety of things but here

3:37:29 ↗ are 22 projects that you need to sit and

3:37:31 ↗ review either directly or review someone

3:37:34 ↗ else's review and so Madame mayor

3:37:36 ↗ members of the council it's a real

3:37:38 ↗ fundamental question um and I think if

3:37:41 ↗ there are members of the council this

3:37:42 ↗ evening who can voice do you want uh

3:37:45 ↗ this group to you know have the detailed

3:37:48 ↗ review uh that some would in the

3:37:50 ↗ community would like then that's great

3:37:51 ↗ and I think planning policy can can help

3:37:53 ↗ flush that out if there are you instead

3:37:56 ↗ feeling what you have said on two

3:37:58 ↗ separate occasions as a group that

3:37:59 ↗ you're looking for this to be a larger

3:38:01 ↗ policy group then I don't know sending

3:38:03 ↗ this back to planning policy uh furthers

3:38:06 ↗ that uh goal so so Madame mayor again we

3:38:09 ↗ stand by the is so important to get

3:38:11 ↗ right but it's also so important to do

3:38:13 ↗ right and to have proper Staffing and

3:38:16 ↗ have members of the community that are

3:38:17 ↗ going to be prepared uh to spend a lot

3:38:20 ↗ of time on these issues um that's

3:38:22 ↗ another component and I as your city

3:38:24 ↗ administrator I'm concerned uh that this

3:38:27 ↗ be all encompassing but might fail

3:38:30 ↗ because we just don't have enough

3:38:31 ↗ resources both volunteer and staff to

3:38:33 ↗ find it uh thank you City administrator

3:38:36 ↗ Bob quits we do have a few more comments

3:38:38 ↗ and questions but I just wanted to add a

3:38:39 ↗ bit of information

3:38:41 ↗ to the city council's consideration

3:38:43 ↗ tonight for some recruiting that I've

3:38:45 ↗ been doing for other boards and

3:38:48 ↗ commissions um development commission

3:38:50 ↗ has always been a project by project

3:38:53 ↗ review group not dealing with policy but

3:38:55 ↗ dealing with the my headset might die

3:38:59 ↗ dealing with the um application of the

3:39:01 ↗ code to an individual parcel um they

3:39:05 ↗ have had environmental resources on it

3:39:07 ↗ before and I am currently looking at

3:39:09 ↗ interview I believe we have now six

3:39:12 ↗ candidates um some with strong

3:39:15 ↗ environmental experience it isn't that

3:39:17 ↗ there is no environmental review and

3:39:19 ↗ development commission does not review

3:39:21 ↗ all projects but their focus is so

3:39:23 ↗ different than planning policy which

3:39:24 ↗ stays at the policy level to try and

3:39:27 ↗ create an environmental commission that

3:39:29 ↗ is policy and project attracts two

3:39:31 ↗ different kinds of people those that are

3:39:33 ↗ interested in the details of the project

3:39:35 ↗ and those that want to form climate

3:39:37 ↗ action policy um I think you've got to

3:39:40 ↗ kind kind of pick a lane and decide what

3:39:42 ↗ you want to do I'm hoping that this um

3:39:44 ↗ interim um recruitment that I'm doing

3:39:48 ↗ add some some environmental muscle to

3:39:50 ↗ the development commission but there is

3:39:52 ↗ already some there so I I do think it's

3:39:55 ↗ important I don't have a opinion on

3:39:56 ↗ whether it goes back or not but I do

3:39:58 ↗ think that this isn't going to be

3:40:00 ↗ everything to everybody um so anyway

3:40:04 ↗ just some thoughts I didn't know if you

3:40:05 ↗ all knew that I was doing that

3:40:06 ↗ recruiting or not um next one up for

3:40:09 ↗ comment is council member

3:40:12 ↗ Goodman thank you council member Goodman

3:40:14 ↗ here I just wanted to follow up a little

3:40:15 ↗ bit um so I don't disagree with anything

3:40:17 ↗ that's said um from either of you um

3:40:20 ↗ this isn't about

3:40:22 ↗ um my this isn't about me wanting to

3:40:26 ↗ elicit some certain answer this is about

3:40:29 ↗ allowing PPC to finish their job um all

3:40:32 ↗ the things that um uh mayor Paulie just

3:40:36 ↗ said and and I didn't get the those

3:40:39 ↗ those answers the answer I heard to the

3:40:41 ↗ question about Transportation projects

3:40:43 ↗ was basically and I'm summarizing and I

3:40:46 ↗ mean no disrespect at all um to um

3:40:49 ↗ anybody is basically it was yes we heard

3:40:52 ↗ and um instead we did we included the

3:40:54 ↗ tip I didn't hear any reasoning I didn't

3:40:57 ↗ hear PPC get an opportunity to to talk

3:40:59 ↗ about that um and I'm not saying that I

3:41:02 ↗ agree that every single project needs to

3:41:04 ↗ be reviewed I didn't hear any conver

3:41:06 ↗ talks about um this is why we don't this

3:41:09 ↗ is why we don't recommend that all the

3:41:11 ↗ transportation projects or the

3:41:13 ↗ significant tree projects get um get

3:41:15 ↗ reviewed by the environmental board

3:41:17 ↗ those that conversation didn't happen at

3:41:19 ↗ least not in the meeting that I listened

3:41:20 ↗ to that's my concern I'm not trying to

3:41:23 ↗ get elicit certain answers these are the

3:41:25 ↗ concerns that I think still have to be

3:41:27 ↗ addressed by PPC based on what they said

3:41:30 ↗ what I heard um lack of information

3:41:33 ↗ again no disrespect um that's why we

3:41:36 ↗ have a a policy commission to make

3:41:38 ↗ recommendations to us

3:41:40 ↗ so if the council tonight is not

3:41:43 ↗ interested in referring this back um

3:41:47 ↗ then I think we uh we're going to have

3:41:50 ↗ to get into significant details um and

3:41:53 ↗ because there're going to be a lot of

3:41:54 ↗ questions and we're going to need to

3:41:56 ↗ refer this to another meeting because

3:41:58 ↗ there are a lot of questions right and

3:42:01 ↗ we've heard your question so far it may

3:42:03 ↗ be that council members want to add to

3:42:05 ↗ the list that you've read as well thank

3:42:07 ↗ you council member D

3:42:08 ↗ Michelle

3:42:14 ↗ you're on

3:42:18 ↗ mute okay that's that's a dollar for me

3:42:21 ↗ all

3:42:23 ↗ right

3:42:25 ↗ um I don't know that we should be in the

3:42:28 ↗ business of finishing the ppc's work for

3:42:31 ↗ them we have a letter from the planning

3:42:34 ↗ policy commission that was signed by the

3:42:36 ↗ chair was dated September 28th and it

3:42:38 ↗ was included in the packet and it has

3:42:42 ↗ three recommendations that they sent to

3:42:44 ↗ us and that to me is the official

3:42:48 ↗ statement that came out of that meeting

3:42:51 ↗ and it has been it's duly noted and uh

3:42:54 ↗ we certainly can uh discuss tonight

3:42:57 ↗ whether we want to include their

3:43:00 ↗ recommendations uh as amendments to the

3:43:03 ↗ uh to the ordinance but um I I you know

3:43:08 ↗ when when we get a signed letter from

3:43:10 ↗ one of our commissions that to me is

3:43:12 ↗ their official statement about what they

3:43:16 ↗ were willing to recommend and the fact

3:43:18 ↗ that there were questions that were

3:43:20 ↗ unanswered uh that night uh maybe they

3:43:23 ↗ were unanswered because no one felt

3:43:26 ↗ compelled to ask anything further I I

3:43:29 ↗ just don't think that um that we as a

3:43:33 ↗ council should be going back to a

3:43:36 ↗ planning policy commission and saying uh

3:43:39 ↗ we you didn't finish your work uh they

3:43:41 ↗ did finish their work they sent us a

3:43:42 ↗ letter it's in the packet um and that

3:43:45 ↗ should stand as their official statement

3:43:47 ↗ that they all agreed to um as as a

3:43:50 ↗ commission so um I uh I think that we

3:43:55 ↗ should take that letter and discuss that

3:43:58 ↗ if we want to if the council wants to um

3:44:02 ↗ but I um and I I will also say that I

3:44:06 ↗ take all these uh comments to heart that

3:44:08 ↗ we need to to decide you know what is

3:44:11 ↗ the exact nature of this uh new

3:44:14 ↗ environmental board um uh again going

3:44:18 ↗ back to where we started there was a lot

3:44:20 ↗ of discussion about the urgency of

3:44:23 ↗ climate change we see that all around us

3:44:26 ↗ we saw that with the wildfires in

3:44:28 ↗ California and we are arguing here over

3:44:32 ↗ not arguing I am sorry I apologize for

3:44:34 ↗ that word we are

3:44:35 ↗ discussing um you know the the intent of

3:44:40 ↗ uh policy Planning Commission when I

3:44:42 ↗ think we should be focused on the

3:44:44 ↗ outcome that we want from this

3:44:45 ↗ environmental board thank you thank you

3:44:49 ↗ council member

3:44:51 ↗ Walsh thank you um my main concern with

3:44:55 ↗ this is whether or not the environmental

3:44:58 ↗ board would be able to be available for

3:45:02 ↗ um Title 18 and the questions that we

3:45:05 ↗ have for them that will come up fairly

3:45:08 ↗ soon and so I'm wondering about the

3:45:11 ↗ timeline of that if we send this back to

3:45:15 ↗ PBC and then it has to come back to us

3:45:17 ↗ and then we vote on it and then we have

3:45:19 ↗ to staff out that board or recruit for

3:45:23 ↗ that board what timeline we're looking

3:45:30 ↗ at question mark if I may Madam mayor uh

3:45:34 ↗ Megan Curtis Murphy who hasn't had an

3:45:36 ↗ opportunity to say anything yet this

3:45:37 ↗ evening so we'll say good evening Megan

3:45:40 ↗ um I know that you've been looking at

3:45:41 ↗ the time frames for recruiting can you

3:45:43 ↗ talk about what your thoughts were at

3:45:46 ↗ this

3:45:46 ↗ point sure um in talking with the clerks

3:45:50 ↗ good evening this is Megan Curtis Murphy

3:45:52 ↗ um in talking with the clerk's

3:45:54 ↗ Department um we wanted to do about a

3:45:57 ↗ three-week recruitment um from previous

3:46:00 ↗ experiences um two weeks didn't quite

3:46:01 ↗ seem to be enough they've often bit

3:46:03 ↗ extended um we are going to be

3:46:05 ↗ recruiting for 12 members um so we want

3:46:08 ↗ to provide adequate time um so about 3

3:46:11 ↗ weeks recruitment um we'd be able to do

3:46:14 ↗ interviews soon after that um with a

3:46:17 ↗ original or with thinking about timeline

3:46:20 ↗ um we are hoping to start recruitment as

3:46:22 ↗ soon as this Friday have that open for

3:46:24 ↗ three weeks try to do um interviews

3:46:27 ↗ beginning of November and then bring it

3:46:29 ↗ back um at a later meeting in November

3:46:31 ↗ to appoint the members and get a first

3:46:34 ↗ meeting at by the end of this year um

3:46:37 ↗ was our original goal if we move forward

3:46:39 ↗ on this evening um if not I think we

3:46:42 ↗ would just have to bump that back um by

3:46:44 ↗ however many weeks

3:46:46 ↗ approximately until we're able to um

3:46:48 ↗ pass the

3:46:52 ↗ ordinance council member Walsh did you

3:46:55 ↗ have a followup question well yeah I was

3:46:57 ↗ going to try and date that out in my

3:47:00 ↗ head if um what we were saying go back

3:47:04 ↗ to

3:47:06 ↗ PPC was it and back here by December 7th

3:47:13 ↗ correct so we would we would try I think

3:47:16 ↗ to start the recruitment then shortly

3:47:18 ↗ after December 7th three weeks takes us

3:47:21 ↗ uh to just about Christmas so I think we

3:47:24 ↗ would try to have those that

3:47:25 ↗ applications do before Christmas then uh

3:47:28 ↗ we would do interviews right after the

3:47:29 ↗ first of the year uh then be able to get

3:47:32 ↗ to the council hopefully by the end of

3:47:33 ↗ January uh with appointments hopefully

3:47:36 ↗ than having a first meeting sometime in

3:47:38 ↗ February

3:47:40 ↗ okay so then to

3:47:42 ↗ clarify if we were to move forward with

3:47:45 ↗ the proposal tonight we would

3:47:49 ↗ potentially have a first meeting in

3:47:51 ↗ December if we were to go back to PBC

3:47:55 ↗ the earliest we would be looking at is

3:47:59 ↗ probably February for first meeting and

3:48:02 ↗ that's assuming there isn't any more

3:48:04 ↗ back and forth is that correct yes I

3:48:07 ↗ think that's reasonable thank you

3:48:12 ↗ council member

3:48:15 ↗ Hall thanks mayor Paulie this is Zach

3:48:17 ↗ Hall um I have a comment and then also a

3:48:20 ↗ quick question if that's appropriate but

3:48:23 ↗ um I just wanted to say on camera as one

3:48:25 ↗ of the uh council members um who in

3:48:29 ↗ previous meetings has said on camera

3:48:31 ↗ that I support it being more of a policy

3:48:34 ↗ function because if we can't you know

3:48:36 ↗ really focus a lot of time on Title 18

3:48:38 ↗ and a climate change then that's the

3:48:40 ↗ ball game in in my head I'm thinking

3:48:42 ↗ long term um that being said I think

3:48:45 ↗ that these questions are appropriate and

3:48:47 ↗ I'm really interested in hearing the

3:48:50 ↗ answers to it and how it may influence

3:48:52 ↗ my thinking so I'm G to support this oh

3:48:56 ↗ in my question um can we not um conduct

3:49:01 ↗ interviews before we pass an ordinance

3:49:05 ↗ or is that is there some legal something

3:49:09 ↗ in

3:49:10 ↗ well I think what if I may council

3:49:12 ↗ member Hall members of the council one

3:49:13 ↗ of the challenges we don't know what

3:49:14 ↗ we're recruiting for yet I mean I think

3:49:17 ↗ as we have talked to community members

3:49:19 ↗ that are some community members very

3:49:20 ↗ excited about doing policy there are

3:49:22 ↗ some community members very excited

3:49:24 ↗ about looking at site plans and asking

3:49:26 ↗ questions about you know specific issues

3:49:29 ↗ with Parcels but those are not

3:49:31 ↗ necessarily the same people and so I

3:49:34 ↗ think we need first to know what this

3:49:36 ↗ group is going to be asked to do uh and

3:49:39 ↗ then once we know then we'll be able to

3:49:42 ↗ recruit okay thank

3:49:45 ↗ you and council president

3:49:49 ↗ hunt thank you um this is council

3:49:52 ↗ president hunt I um I was just

3:49:56 ↗ revisiting the letter that we received

3:49:58 ↗ from the um chair of the PPC and um on

3:50:02 ↗ behalf of the PPC and they do ask that

3:50:06 ↗ Council consider three things um

3:50:10 ↗ including that decisions in The Proposal

3:50:13 ↗ would have greater transparency that the

3:50:15 ↗ board be given flexibility to decide

3:50:17 ↗ what topics IT addresses and then also

3:50:20 ↗ um a six-month review cycle but I think

3:50:23 ↗ that they they recommended that we

3:50:25 ↗ consider those things and then they pass

3:50:28 ↗ the ball to us as elected officials to

3:50:31 ↗ consider their those concerns and make a

3:50:34 ↗ decision um I am concerned at this point

3:50:38 ↗ based on some conversations that I've

3:50:40 ↗ had I'm concerned

3:50:42 ↗ about um people that have been following

3:50:45 ↗ this process community members who are

3:50:47 ↗ really concerned about the environment

3:50:49 ↗ really interested in the environment

3:50:50 ↗ interested in serving on a board um

3:50:52 ↗ their enthusiasm in some conversations

3:50:55 ↗ um their enthusiasm has waned over the

3:50:58 ↗ course of this process and and how long

3:51:00 ↗ it has um taken and so I would be very

3:51:04 ↗ concerned if we kicked this back with

3:51:06 ↗ questions um also questioning

3:51:09 ↗ the PPC landed as a I I think that they

3:51:14 ↗ asked us to consider these things and it

3:51:16 ↗ was clear so I'm in favor of considering

3:51:19 ↗ those things and moving forward um I

3:51:22 ↗ also think that we have received a lot

3:51:24 ↗ of community input and I want to um I

3:51:28 ↗ want to act with a sense of urgency on

3:51:31 ↗ this because I do think that it is very

3:51:33 ↗ important to the community and um I want

3:51:37 ↗ to proceed

3:51:43 ↗ council member MZ thank you Madame mayor

3:51:46 ↗ uh I'd like to proceed forward this

3:51:47 ↗ evening I think that uh this isn't the

3:51:52 ↗ Strategic plan this is something that uh

3:51:55 ↗ we can make decisions on and then make

3:51:58 ↗ changes down the road uh we have that

3:52:00 ↗ ability um this is a new body we won't

3:52:03 ↗ get it perfectly right tonight uh or in

3:52:06 ↗ the next meeting we will put something

3:52:09 ↗ place and we'll see how it works and we

3:52:10 ↗ will make uh revisions based on that so

3:52:14 ↗ I would like to move forward this

3:52:15 ↗ evening thank you council president

3:52:20 ↗ hunt thank you I did also um want to add

3:52:24 ↗ one more comment which is I had a

3:52:26 ↗ question there was um some emailed

3:52:28 ↗ comments regarding projects with

3:52:31 ↗ significant trees and those being

3:52:33 ↗ considered also um significant impacts

3:52:36 ↗ to trees and so I had a question um that

3:52:39 ↗ that I asked of Megan um and I believe

3:52:42 ↗ it got shared with the development

3:52:43 ↗ services department and others but the

3:52:46 ↗ the bottom line was that we don't

3:52:47 ↗ actually have code to support what is

3:52:50 ↗ significant trees and so um that would

3:52:53 ↗ be if that were to be there it would

3:52:55 ↗ probably be a need to be a change in

3:52:57 ↗ code and I think this speaks to we have

3:52:59 ↗ broader policy questions that we need to

3:53:01 ↗ address within tile 18 um and within our

3:53:05 ↗ code that that need to be looked at to

3:53:08 ↗ address some of these things and if we

3:53:10 ↗ if we're um questioning um specific

3:53:14 ↗ wording I think that we we will have

3:53:16 ↗ another opportunity to look at some of

3:53:18 ↗ these policy level impacts with the

3:53:20 ↗ title 18 work and we should absolutely

3:53:22 ↗ do that but I also think we don't we we

3:53:24 ↗ have some higher level policy questions

3:53:26 ↗ that we need to work through before we

3:53:28 ↗ can start looking even if we wanted to

3:53:31 ↗ get into the project level and as I've

3:53:34 ↗ said before I think that the higher

3:53:36 ↗ level um is where we need to be at this

3:53:38 ↗ point with the this board and looking at

3:53:40 ↗ higher level policies that will have a

3:53:42 ↗ umbrella over many

3:53:46 ↗ projects thank you um council member

3:53:48 ↗ Goodman I wanted to come back to you to

3:53:50 ↗ see if you had any final comments or any

3:53:53 ↗ suggestions about resolution to getting

3:53:57 ↗ answers to those questions um without

3:54:00 ↗ sending it back to planning policy but

3:54:02 ↗ are those a series of questions that you

3:54:04 ↗ would want staff to answer uh either

3:54:07 ↗ this evening or an addition information

3:54:09 ↗ for the council which could also loop

3:54:11 ↗ back to PR um planning policy at some

3:54:13 ↗ point as well could that address your

3:54:17 ↗ concern

3:54:18 ↗ um uh thank you council member Goodman

3:54:21 ↗ here um

3:54:24 ↗ I

3:54:25 ↗ the I think it would make for a long

3:54:28 ↗ meeting tonight um it's 11 o'clock um

3:54:32 ↗ and although we have one council member

3:54:34 ↗ who would like to potentially work seven

3:54:37 ↗ and a half hours I am not one of them um

3:54:40 ↗ and I would strongly oppose trying to

3:54:42 ↗ dig in and revise the code um the C

3:54:45 ↗ those the questions I asked um the

3:54:48 ↗ answers were not presented so it's not

3:54:50 ↗ that I'm trying to get a different

3:54:52 ↗ answer the answers were not presented um

3:54:55 ↗ and so um and I'm I'm personally not

3:54:59 ↗ interested in trying to get all of those

3:55:01 ↗ questions answered into Revise Code and

3:55:03 ↗ try to understand something that's going

3:55:05 ↗ to be a brand new board um and I guess

3:55:08 ↗ the comment I would make is I'm

3:55:11 ↗ not questioning their work I am question

3:55:15 ↗ I am um I do not believe that they were

3:55:18 ↗ given an opportunity to finish their

3:55:20 ↗ work they were very uncomfortable making

3:55:23 ↗ a

3:55:24 ↗ recommendation um I would encourage you

3:55:25 ↗ to watch it um so I am I am not happy

3:55:29 ↗ with personally not happy with how um

3:55:35 ↗ uh um the work was con included because

3:55:39 ↗ they had a lot of questions um so uh I

3:55:44 ↗ think their final recommendation was

3:55:47 ↗ based on what they had to work with I do

3:55:49 ↗ not believe that it is the that they

3:55:53 ↗ that um they would have done the same

3:55:56 ↗ thing had they had other had they had an

3:55:59 ↗ opportunity to to finish their

3:56:01 ↗ deliberations that's my concern um we're

3:56:04 ↗ headed into the holidays there have also

3:56:07 ↗ been um comments about heading into the

3:56:09 ↗ holidays and whe whether we can really

3:56:11 ↗ get this board up and going with the

3:56:12 ↗ holidays before us anyway um so anyway

3:56:16 ↗ um if it is the will if we take a vote

3:56:18 ↗ and it is the will of the council to not

3:56:20 ↗ refer it back um then I think we need to

3:56:22 ↗ bring it back at a different meeting

3:56:23 ↗ because there really is quite a hefty

3:56:25 ↗ amount to talk about so let's do this in

3:56:28 ↗ two parts then this is the mayor um

3:56:31 ↗ let's vote on the motion on the floor

3:56:33 ↗ which is the referral back to planning

3:56:35 ↗ policy and then we'll have another

3:56:37 ↗ conversation about what the next steps

3:56:39 ↗ are because it is 11:00 and I can tell

3:56:42 ↗ that there is a lot of interest in this

3:56:44 ↗ item a lot so um with no F oh um

3:56:49 ↗ president hunt did I get to you for your

3:56:52 ↗ comment okay um the motion on the floor

3:56:55 ↗ is to refer AB 7941 to the planning

3:56:58 ↗ policy commission to a date to be

3:57:00 ↗ determined to be returned to the city

3:57:02 ↗ council honor before December 7th

3:57:05 ↗ 2020 um we'll do a roll call vote

3:57:09 ↗ CL first we have council member D

3:57:12 ↗ Michelle

3:57:14 ↗ no council member

3:57:16 ↗ Goodman

3:57:18 ↗ yes council member

3:57:22 ↗ Hall

3:57:23 ↗ I council president

3:57:26 ↗ hunt

3:57:28 ↗ nay council member

3:57:30 ↗ Marts

3:57:32 ↗ nay Council sorry Deputy council

3:57:35 ↗ president Ray

3:57:37 ↗ I

3:57:39 ↗ council member Walsh

3:57:42 ↗ nay that's three eyes for

3:57:45 ↗ Nays so the motion does not go forward

3:57:49 ↗ um I think the point that council member

3:57:51 ↗ Goodman made up about what could be

3:57:54 ↗ reasonably accomplished tonight is a

3:57:56 ↗ good one um City administrator Bob ktz

3:57:59 ↗ if the council chose

3:58:02 ↗ to um move this to another meeting what

3:58:07 ↗ would we be looking at on the planning

3:58:12 ↗ calendar um M may members of the council

3:58:15 ↗ I think we could put this on for your

3:58:17 ↗ next meeting on the 19th uh Miss gezer

3:58:20 ↗ is that uh I don't have the planning

3:58:22 ↗ calendar up uh oh here it is

3:58:27 ↗ um right now we have uh uh lodging tax

3:58:31 ↗ uh committee items as the two items of

3:58:34 ↗ regular business plus uh Community

3:58:36 ↗ Planning and Development fees

3:58:39 ↗ so those are the the three regular

3:58:42 ↗ business items and then a visit isqua

3:58:44 ↗ update as an informational item um so it

3:58:46 ↗ already is a uh already is somewhat a

3:58:51 ↗ busy meeting

3:58:53 ↗ um the next regular meeting after that

3:58:55 ↗ is November

3:58:58 ↗ 2nd um and there are um budget issues on

3:59:02 ↗ there as well and the title

3:59:04 ↗ 18 update so I'm looking for direction

3:59:08 ↗ from Council it's

3:59:09 ↗ 11:00 uh we have much to do on this one

3:59:14 ↗ um if someone would care to make a

3:59:17 ↗ motion about continuing this item to

3:59:19 ↗ October 19th it would allow us to talk

3:59:21 ↗ about next

3:59:24 ↗ steps council member

3:59:27 ↗ Goodman thank you I would mo mo make a

3:59:29 ↗ motion to postpone AB 7941 to the

3:59:32 ↗ October 19th 2020 council meeting and is

3:59:35 ↗ there a

3:59:37 ↗ second

3:59:39 ↗ council president hunt

3:59:41 ↗ second thank you and uh right before

3:59:45 ↗ that we had a

3:59:48 ↗ question from council member Hall I

3:59:53 ↗ believe yeah May Paulie uh this is

3:59:56 ↗ council member Hall I was just goingon

3:59:58 ↗ to ask a logistical question if it might

4:00:00 ↗ be possible for us to just schedule a

4:00:02 ↗ special city council meeting to address

4:00:05 ↗ this city administrator Bitz

4:00:10 ↗ [Applause]

4:00:13 ↗ um that is harder to do right now only

4:00:17 ↗ because of the budget calendar um okay

4:00:20 ↗ so you have a meeting uh tomorrow night

4:00:23 ↗ um you have u a study session on the

4:00:29 ↗ 13th um the week of the 19th um there's

4:00:33 ↗ only one meeting uh the week of the 27th

4:00:36 ↗ there's only one meeting uh if you

4:00:38 ↗ wanted to have uh a meeting on the

4:00:43 ↗ 26th on the

4:00:47 ↗ Monday uh that might work that's a week

4:00:53 ↗ later so right now we're considering the

4:00:55 ↗ 19th anybody want to weigh in on

4:00:58 ↗ thoughts of moving it further out and

4:01:00 ↗ giving it its own night like Monday the

4:01:03 ↗ 26 any

4:01:07 ↗ thoughts

4:01:11 ↗ Madame mayor sorry this is council

4:01:13 ↗ member Mars uh I would like to consider

4:01:17 ↗ the

4:01:18 ↗ 26th um I think that it's uh you know uh

4:01:24 ↗ we should this is an important topic

4:01:26 ↗ clearly people feel very strongly about

4:01:28 ↗ it and I'd like to be fresh and uh I I

4:01:31 ↗ would be fine with the 26 I don't know

4:01:33 ↗ how other people feel thank you any

4:01:36 ↗ thank you any other comments

4:01:41 ↗ I think you can just raise your hand

4:01:42 ↗ because we're not doing anything

4:01:44 ↗ complicated who else uh Barb go ahead

4:01:47 ↗ council member D Michelle followed by

4:01:49 ↗ council president

4:01:50 ↗ hunt yeah the 26 would be fine with

4:01:53 ↗ me thank you council president

4:01:57 ↗ hunt um thank you that date would also

4:02:00 ↗ be fine with me and it does seem that we

4:02:02 ↗ keep having um new items pop up and so

4:02:07 ↗ um that would likely be a full agenda on

4:02:09 ↗ the 19th the way things are

4:02:11 ↗ going thank you any other um council

4:02:16 ↗ members want oh council member Goodman I

4:02:17 ↗ have you up thank you council member

4:02:19 ↗ Goodman here do we need to uh make an

4:02:22 ↗ amendment to change it to um I uh so

4:02:24 ↗ moved I will change the meeting date in

4:02:28 ↗ the motion to October 26th and then that

4:02:31 ↗ probably needs a second to amend it

4:02:33 ↗ Council I agree I agree thank you very

4:02:35 ↗ much so the motion sorry I'm sorry mayor

4:02:39 ↗ paully uh we also will need a a start

4:02:41 ↗ time for that special

4:02:44 ↗ meeting uh it's a Monday but not a

4:02:47 ↗ regular Monday Council night 7 PM start

4:02:50 ↗ is probably fine 11: PM 11 pm we're

4:02:55 ↗ starting at

4:02:56 ↗ 11 take a nap everybody take a nap so

4:02:59 ↗ you ready um does that need to be in the

4:03:01 ↗ motion

4:03:03 ↗ Tisha um maybe we can just ask our any

4:03:07 ↗ council member

4:03:08 ↗ is there an objection to amending the

4:03:11 ↗ motion to postpone to 700 p.m. October

4:03:15 ↗ 26 for a special meeting not seeing any

4:03:18 ↗ objections okay and then there will need

4:03:21 ↗ to be a you're doing it we'll need to

4:03:24 ↗ take a vote Yes so the motion before you

4:03:27 ↗ is to postpone AB

4:03:29 ↗ 7941 to the October 26th meeting to to

4:03:34 ↗ an October 26th meeting at 700 p.m. is

4:03:37 ↗ there any further

4:03:42 ↗ discussion I I

4:03:45 ↗ have council member Goodman followed by

4:03:47 ↗ council member

4:03:48 ↗ hunt no I do not I have council

4:03:51 ↗ president hunt thank you I just wanted

4:03:54 ↗ to acknowledge that we um have received

4:03:56 ↗ the number of email comments but since

4:03:57 ↗ we're continuing this to the other

4:03:59 ↗ meeting I think it would make sense to

4:04:01 ↗ wrap them all up and I will um report

4:04:04 ↗ them out uh as summaries at the next

4:04:07 ↗ meeting if that sense because again we

4:04:08 ↗ aren't voting on the main motion this

4:04:10 ↗ evening I think that does make sense

4:04:13 ↗ thank

4:04:15 ↗ you seeing no other comments I'll have

4:04:18 ↗ the city clerk do a roll call vote on

4:04:19 ↗ the

4:04:23 ↗ motion starting with council member

4:04:25 ↗ Goodman I council member Hall I council

4:04:31 ↗ president hunt I council member Marts I

4:04:37 ↗ Deputy Council president Ray I council

4:04:40 ↗ member Walsh

4:04:43 ↗ I council member D Michelle I that's

4:04:47 ↗ seven I zero nay thank you that passes

4:04:50 ↗ unanimously to move this item to the

4:04:52 ↗ October 26th meeting at 7M I did have a

4:04:56 ↗ question for council member Goodman um

4:04:59 ↗ in the series of questions that you had

4:05:01 ↗ listed that you felt were unanswered is

4:05:03 ↗ your expectation that at the October

4:05:05 ↗ 26th meeting there will be some

4:05:08 ↗ information from staff that answers

4:05:10 ↗ those questions uh thank you council

4:05:12 ↗ member Goodman here uh I was going to um

4:05:15 ↗ say that I will be sending those

4:05:17 ↗ questions emailing those questions um to

4:05:21 ↗ um to Administration um and uh and then

4:05:26 ↗ of course um any other council members

4:05:29 ↗ can send in questions that they might

4:05:31 ↗ have and and I was expecting that the

4:05:34 ↗ answers would be in the um packet that

4:05:37 ↗ we get before before that meeting not

4:05:38 ↗ answered at the meeting please yeah

4:05:40 ↗ thank you thank you thank you for that

4:05:44 ↗ let me find my little script getting a

4:05:47 ↗ little Punchy it's getting a little

4:05:49 ↗ late okay well Megan I want to thank you

4:05:52 ↗ for staying with us tonight and we'll

4:05:54 ↗ see you again on the

4:05:57 ↗ 26 um next up is good of the order did

4:06:00 ↗ anybody bring anything for good of the

4:06:02 ↗ order this evening seeing

4:06:05 ↗ some head nods now so I will talk about

4:06:09 ↗ a few of the upcoming Council meetings

4:06:11 ↗ uh the following meetings will be held

4:06:13 ↗ virtually we'll have a city council

4:06:14 ↗ study session tomorrow October 6 at 6:30

4:06:17 ↗ pm the topic will be the 2021 proposed

4:06:20 ↗ budget overview a city council study

4:06:23 ↗ session on Tuesday October 13th at 6:30

4:06:26 ↗ p.m. potential agenda items include the

4:06:29 ↗ affordable housing update the title 18

4:06:32 ↗ land use code ad hoc committee update as

4:06:35 ↗ city council regular meeting on Monday o

4:06:37 ↗ oober 19th potential agenda items

4:06:40 ↗ include the visit isqua annual update

4:06:43 ↗ climate convening recommendations

4:06:46 ↗ lodging tax advisory committee funding

4:06:48 ↗ requests Community Planning and

4:06:51 ↗ Development fees and public hearings on

4:06:54 ↗ property tax levy and revenue sources

4:06:56 ↗ and the preliminary 2021 budget and as

4:07:00 ↗ discussed this evening a special council

4:07:03 ↗ meeting on Monday the 26th at 6:30 p.m.

4:07:06 ↗ at 700 p.m.

4:07:08 ↗ to talk about the envir formation of the

4:07:11 ↗ environmental um

4:07:13 ↗ board um the next item on the agenda

4:07:16 ↗ this evening is executive session which

4:07:19 ↗ was held earlier this evening and so

4:07:22 ↗ therefore there being no additional

4:07:24 ↗ business this meeting is adjourned at

4:07:26 ↗ 11:10 p.m. good night

4:07:31 ↗ all

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Council / Members (8)

Barbara de Michele

Stacy Goodman

Zach Hall

Victoria Hunt

Tola Marts

Chris Reh

Lindsey Walsh

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