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Tuesday, February 23, 2021

8:00 PM · 3h 14m
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2. CLOSED SESSION
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The purpose of this special meeting is to allow the City Council to recess into Executive Session to discuss sale of real estate per RCW 42.30.110(1)(c). The item is expected to take approximately 30 minutes. Please note, Executive Sessions are closed to the public. Action, if needed, would occur during the open session of a Regular Council meeting
0:00 all right welcome everyone i am
0:04 barbara council member and i'm calling
0:07 the february 23rd
0:09 council study order
0:13 to start tonight with a land
0:15 acknowledgement
0:17 we acknowledge that we are on the
0:18 indigenous land of coast
0:20 salish peoples who have reserved treaty
0:22 rights to this land
0:24 specifically the duwamish and snoqualmie
0:26 indian tribes
0:27 we thank these caretakers of this land
0:30 who have lived
0:33 time immemorial
0:37 next i would like to acknowledge uh
0:40 our remote meeting format tonight on
0:43 march 6
0:43 2012 the
0:46 emergency proclamation declaring a civil
0:49 emergency in the city
0:51 due to the coven 19 outbreak on march
0:54 24th
0:55 2020 the governor issued proclamation
0:58 2028
0:59 relating to the coven 19 emergency and
1:04 open public proclamation has been
1:06 extended and
1:08 or until repealed by the governor or
1:10 legislature
1:12 due to these proclamations tonight's
1:15 meeting will be held entirely remotely
1:17 the meeting will be recorded streamed
1:19 live and available for later viewing on
1:22 the city's youtube channel
1:25 a call-in number was provided on the
1:27 meeting agenda for members of the public
1:29 who wish to call in by phone to listen
1:32 live to the meeting
1:34 or make comments there are multiple
1:37 public comment opportunities at
1:39 tonight's meeting
1:40 first there is a general public comment
1:44 at the beginning of the meeting or
1:47 second
1:48 you can make comments after the staff
1:50 presentation
1:51 and cancel
1:57 questions and answers on each item is
2:00 anyone on the call now who would like to
2:02 make public
2:05 comments please star three
2:08 on your phone now or under the later
2:11 comment periods
2:12 and we will call on you using the last
2:14 two digits of your phone
2:16 number council president hunt will also
2:18 share a summary of any comments that
2:20 have been emailed
2:21 regarding tonight's agenda items
2:25 i will now take role of the council
2:27 members in attendance
2:29 please say here when i call your name
2:31 councilmember goodman
2:34 here councilmember hall
2:38 here
2:42 to president hunt here
2:46 councilmember martz here
2:50 council deputy president here
2:55 and council member walsh here
3:00 thank you um the first item on the
3:03 agenda
3:04 is public comment clerk has anyone
3:06 signed up to speak or indicated a desire
3:08 to speak this evening
3:11 no no one has signed up in advance to
3:13 speak and i don't see any members of the
3:15 public on the call
3:17 at this time thank you
3:20 as a reminder written comments can be
3:22 submitted at any time to city council
3:24 at issaquah.gov
3:28 council president hunt did we receive
3:30 any
3:31 uh email comments for tonight's meeting
3:35 um thank you councilmember d michelle i
3:38 reviewed our emails and we have not
3:40 received any emails
3:41 from members of the public or members of
3:43 the community specifically referencing
3:45 tonight's agenda
3:46 items or on these topics since we've
3:49 last
3:49 discussed them in a different meeting
3:52 thank you
3:54 thank you we will therefore
3:57 move on to the first item on the agenda
3:59 which is id
4:01 0813 wildfire strategy
4:04 and this will be presented by robert
4:06 york our public works director
4:08 fire chief jeff clark of eastside fire
4:11 and rescue
4:12 laura whiteley binder from king county
4:14 climate action team
4:16 and jared schneider king county
4:18 emergency management
4:20 and i'm going to turn it over to robert
4:22 for the staff presentation
4:25 thank you councilmember de michel good
4:27 union council members
4:29 bob york public works director with an
4:31 update on the city and the region's
4:34 wildfire strategy tonight
4:37 we have three additional guest speakers
4:40 uh impressive backgrounds that will also
4:44 help
4:45 with this uh presentation uh
4:48 since councilmember d michelle already
4:50 introduced them i
4:51 i'll just move move ahead to my slides
4:55 okay next slide tisha please
5:01 tonight our agenda consists of a brief
5:03 background
5:05 the city of issaquah initiatives in
5:07 terms of wildfire
5:08 preparedness and response east side fire
5:11 and rescue initiatives
5:13 and the king county regional initiatives
5:16 followed by question and answers next
5:18 slide tisha
5:25 but the feedback we'd like tonight is
5:27 are we headed in the right direction as
5:29 a region as a city as
5:30 as our fire agency and
5:35 any additional ideas for short and term
5:37 long measures or initiatives
5:39 would be appreciated tonight
5:42 next slide tisha please
5:46 [Music]
5:48 so i'll just briefly mention some of the
5:52 drivers
5:53 short and long term for why
5:56 there's this heightened concern about
5:57 wildfire preparedness
6:00 in issaquah a more detailed conversation
6:03 is coming up in the subsequent speakers
6:07 wildfire smoke's been an issue and i
6:09 think three of the last five years
6:14 caused by fires throughout the region
6:17 eastern washington oregon california and
6:20 british columbia
6:22 there have been some local
6:26 wildfires that have been noted
6:31 over time and there's another uh driver
6:34 called the
6:35 department of natural resources or
6:36 wildlife wildland urban interface
6:39 or wui maps that have shown that
6:43 the the uh where developed areas are
6:47 matching the areas where wildfire
6:50 or wildlands exist and that would be the
6:52 place where
6:53 we'd focus a lot of our concern about
6:55 wildfire
6:57 in the city so next slide please
7:04 the future driver and one of our
7:07 speakers
7:08 is the king county preparedness manager
7:10 climate
7:12 uh preparedness program manager is
7:14 climate change uh
7:15 and she'll talk about where i'll talk
7:18 about the uh
7:20 the future of wildfires in western
7:22 washington and specifically king county
7:25 so you'll hear more about that in a
7:26 moment
7:28 my next slide so i'll touch on the city
7:32 issaquah initiatives um
7:36 most of our initiatives are done in
7:39 because it's wildfire done in close
7:40 collaboration
7:41 and supporting east side fire and rescue
7:45 so we uh most of the things we do
7:49 are closely coordinated and backing up
7:52 supporting our fire agency with many of
7:55 these topics we'll talk about tonight
7:57 but we do have a
7:58 emergency management capability we have
8:00 an impressive
8:01 emergency operations center here in the
8:03 uh public works operations
8:05 administration building
8:09 where i'm speaking from tonight we have
8:12 some
8:12 impressive uh programs featuring
8:16 volunteers throughout the city one is
8:18 called the um and it's a
8:19 fema endorsed program called the
8:22 community emergency response team
8:24 certs since 1985 or since
8:28 2005 we've
8:31 conducted over 40 classes and trained
8:33 over a thousand citizens
8:35 that have become more proficient in
8:38 supporting emergency management efforts
8:40 including wildfire
8:42 now about 150 to 100 to 150 of these uh
8:47 certs have received additional
8:49 credentials and and
8:50 are now considered to be cons to be our
8:53 emergency
8:54 worker volunteers supporting our efforts
8:57 groups of these folks are located and
8:59 work within
9:01 throughout the city of issaquah so
9:03 geographical diversity
9:13 also the city's emergency team
9:16 supports a citizen-led initiative of
9:18 neighbors helping neighbors called map
9:20 your neighborhood
9:22 or myn mine that is a state endorsed
9:25 program this is a program where
9:30 citizen neighbors take the lead
9:34 and city and e4 support you say fire
9:38 rescue support
9:39 where neighbors helping neighbors get
9:42 their uh
9:43 figure out the needs and concerns and
9:46 resources available within their
9:47 specific neighborhood
9:49 this really helps when an emergency
9:52 really occurs like before you call 9-1-1
9:56 during the 9-1-1 response and
9:59 when help arrives so neighbors
10:04 want to be prepared in their
10:05 neighborhoods to help their neighbors
10:09 as part of our active community
10:14 the next topic is npfa national fire
10:17 protection association firewise usa
10:21 i'm gonna just briefly highlight that
10:23 but that's uh
10:25 we closely coordinate with eastside fire
10:27 and rescue this is a
10:29 fire agency driven program and
10:33 but we're here to support with the needs
10:35 of east side fire and rescue
10:38 public outreach emergency emergency
10:41 management
10:42 prior to covet especially but hopefully
10:44 resuming soon has
10:46 always been out there in the in the
10:47 community with uh
10:49 with outreach um tables at the farmer's
10:53 market
10:53 on a monthly basis the highlands day uh
10:57 july fourth parade salmon days other
11:00 events
11:01 again cobra hampered our efforts but our
11:05 desire is to resume those uh
11:08 outreach programs and maybe even using
11:11 creative way a bit ways to do that if
11:14 kobit
11:15 keeps us from some of these events
11:19 um brenda brenwall our emergency
11:22 coordinator has
11:24 over the years responded to the some of
11:26 the biggest
11:28 uh wildfires in the country she's a
11:32 certified wildfire wildland firefighting
11:36 training uh person she's uh
11:40 we've she's been deployed as a type one
11:42 pacific northwest instant management
11:44 team member for
11:46 resource unit and d-mobe unit two
11:48 wildfires
11:49 in california colorado oregon washington
11:52 alaska these programs where
11:56 she sent out are reimbursable from the
11:58 uh from fema
12:00 but she brings back the knowledge that
12:02 she gains
12:03 and enhances our preparedness as a city
12:07 um another program that we do
12:11 is um open space management done by our
12:13 parks and open space department
12:15 uh things that they do are
12:18 ranging from vegetation selection to
12:20 pruning and debris
12:22 fuel removal removal of dead indicting
12:25 trees
12:26 coordination with the surrounding open
12:29 space agencies like department of
12:31 natural resources like tradition
12:34 puget sound energy bonneville power
12:36 administration
12:38 williams pipeline private landowners
12:42 state parks washdot to coordinate
12:46 emergency strategies including wildfires
12:50 and finally as we'll hear from king
12:52 county tonight we're
12:54 involved we as a city and and eastside
12:56 fire and rescue and
12:57 the regional planning efforts and you'll
12:59 hear the work in progress and
13:03 the schedule for defining a regional
13:05 approach to wildfire
13:07 management next slide please
13:13 um the council adopted in june of last
13:16 year are issaquah annex and the king
13:19 county
13:20 hazard mitigation plan well the page in
13:22 the uh so wildfires
13:24 resiliency is a priority in our a plan
13:27 in issaquah as well as the regional plan
13:31 our goal is to reduce our stress
13:35 risk to people and property from
13:36 wildfire urban interface potential
13:39 our mitigation strategy is to partner
13:41 with efer to implement firewise
13:44 our implementation plans and actions are
13:47 again the outreach to the neighborhoods
13:50 implement firewise principles and
13:52 personal emergency preparedness
13:54 measures and evacuation processes and
13:58 our five-year objective which is getting
14:00 a slightly delayed start is
14:02 over the door course of 2020 to 2025
14:05 we'll
14:06 meet with 20 neighborhood groups to uh
14:08 that's our goal
14:10 and objective to uh to
14:13 prepare for wildfires uh next slide
14:16 please
14:20 so the last slide is another national
14:22 fire protection association
14:26 campaign so eastside fire and rescue
14:30 takes the lead on that but it's the
14:33 wildlife community preparedness day
14:35 effort last year was somewhat of a
14:39 a bus because of kovid this year we're
14:41 still optimistic and uh
14:44 we'll support we the city resources will
14:47 support
14:47 eastside fire and rescue in the uh
14:51 and making everybody aware of the
14:52 dangers of fire
14:54 wildfires and to enhance preparedness
14:56 and reduce risk so
14:58 with that i'm going to move to the next
15:00 slide and turn it over to chief clark
15:03 thank you
15:12 all right i just want to test my audio
15:14 okay
15:24 yes yes
15:27 all right so i'm having some audio
15:29 issues here things are going out so
15:31 hopefully you can hear me okay
15:32 um so uh thank you council for once
15:35 again having me back
15:36 uh to discuss one of my favorite topics
15:39 i i want to
15:40 start off um by saying that you know
15:42 this this presentation is
15:44 is definitely needed and there there are
15:47 a lot of folks who
15:48 um know what they're doing in the region
15:50 about wildlife preparedness
15:53 um but i do want to state without beyond
15:56 a shadow of a doubt
15:57 we are not prepared for a wildfire in
15:59 this region
16:00 okay so despite all the things that
16:03 we're doing we have a lot of work to do
16:05 over a large number of years moving
16:07 forward
16:08 we have to apply constant pressure in
16:10 our preparedness efforts to continue to
16:12 prepare our communities
16:14 and the community that's about to move
16:15 forward so please keep that in mind as
16:18 we walk through here sometimes it's
16:19 comforting to hear how many things we
16:21 have
16:22 going on uh but there's a lot of work to
16:24 do in these areas and i just want to
16:26 talk about action out there so obviously
16:28 i won't read all these to you but uh
16:30 these are the five initiatives that
16:31 we're going to go over today
16:33 this is your audio is
16:37 cutting out a bit might i suggest you
16:39 try turning off your camera to see if
16:41 that helps
16:43 will do
16:47 all right how's that any better
16:51 not not really um we we can uh
16:54 we can keep you posted as to the clarity
16:58 of your audio um
16:59 and you you we may ask you to phone in
17:02 if needed okay
17:05 um if you need me to phone in just i i
17:07 can't see the chat so if you
17:09 enter into the chat that i need to go to
17:10 the phone i can switch over to that
17:13 um so um
17:16 with that let's uh please move this
17:18 slide and we'll start with a homeowner
17:22 all right first and foremost uh for
17:24 wildland uh or wildfire preparedness
17:27 is each and every individual within the
17:29 city
17:30 needs to take responsibility for their
17:32 property and defending their home
17:34 uh we can do an awful lot of things as a
17:36 community uh but they will be for naught
17:38 if we do not engage the community
17:40 members individually
17:41 and as property owners uh establish
17:45 relationships teach
17:46 them how to defend their home and how to
17:48 properly manage the vegetation
17:50 and um their home construction materials
17:53 and whatnot
17:55 this has been played out over and over
17:57 again throughout the western united
17:59 states and wildland
18:00 in wildfire uh it is a large explanation
18:03 for what we want
18:03 to be left standing when our new
18:05 religious bike out preparedness matters
18:08 and for this we need to engage the
18:09 public which is view as council
18:12 is the best opportunity we have to reach
18:14 the public
18:15 is through uh the connections that all
18:18 of you have throughout the community to
18:19 engage people on this subject
18:23 next next slide please
18:28 the next thing is going from the
18:30 individual's responsibility into
18:32 neighborhood wildland
18:33 wildfire preparedness planning this is
18:35 something that eastside fire rescue does
18:37 specifically
18:38 this is going into a neighborhood i'll
18:39 pick on the highlands for instance
18:41 and the highlands is a neighborhood this
18:44 is eastside fire and rescue
18:46 figuring out and establishing an actual
18:48 deployment plan and preparing that
18:49 community
18:50 or if a firework is to start in several
18:53 different areas of the community
18:55 we map out how we would respond what if
18:58 anything
18:58 has happened in the past um utilizing
19:01 weather patterns how they change year to
19:02 year
19:03 monitoring them we do not have all the
19:05 communities within
19:06 our all the communities within our
19:08 services prepared at this point with a
19:10 with a preparedness plan
19:11 but we look at the highest risk areas
19:13 and we we put resources to
19:15 the workplace these are very detailed
19:17 plans to
19:18 develop we scrutinize them at our
19:21 command staff meetings
19:22 and challenge each other's assumptions
19:26 but this is something that's ongoing and
19:28 will continue to happen as we take on
19:30 our profile next slide please
19:37 next we get into community planning and
19:39 this is an initiative that will
19:40 we will be coming back to not only the
19:42 isoqua city councils but the other city
19:44 councils that we serve
19:45 um working on some of these initiatives
19:47 code considerations for instance
19:49 i think i mentioned this before to you
19:51 um something like banning
19:53 uh shake shingle roofs or creating
19:55 incentive programs to
19:57 consider uh to help individuals who have
19:59 addiction groups now to convert those
20:01 shingles as an example of some code and
20:03 some programs
20:05 urban forest management uh our forests
20:08 do exist and they are healthy and there
20:10 are ways to manage our forests
20:12 um we are city owned for instance or
20:15 work with our partners
20:17 our community on how best to manage that
20:20 forest while still taking in all of the
20:22 environmental qualities that we'd love
20:24 have in the pacific northwest pay
20:26 attention to the environment and
20:28 properly manage the forest for
20:29 a possible fire shelter in place
20:32 locations
20:33 identifying where those sites are ahead
20:35 of time before the emergency happens
20:37 evacuation routes something else we've
20:39 talked about in the past
20:40 oftentimes in these fast-moving wildfire
20:42 events it is not
20:44 a lack of preparedness in the community
20:46 that
21:01 and then from hefer standpoint community
21:03 planning we can
21:04 uh tie into our neighborhood
21:06 preparedness planning it's overall as a
21:08 community what are our tactical and
21:09 strategic objectives
21:11 uh when it comes to wildfire and setting
21:14 up scenarios on a wildfire approaching
21:16 from
21:17 several different directions so it's not
21:18 always the same scenario
21:20 but we can anticipate what some of those
21:22 um tactical strategic projects will be
21:24 ahead of time
21:25 and then trigger points and uh trigger
21:27 point is something referring to okay
21:29 when a fire gets to
21:30 north bend um that may trigger
21:33 evacuations in this spot
21:35 and that's an example of identifying
21:37 trigger points for some of these
21:39 issues around the community and
21:42 excellent please chief uh this is tisha
21:45 i'll advance the slide your audio is
21:46 deteriorating
21:47 a bit more so i'm not sure how many
21:50 slides you have left but
21:52 there may be value in taking a minute to
21:54 phone in
21:56 okay tisha this is my last slide
21:59 okay then we will bear we will bear with
22:02 you and
22:02 and we can articulate we can't
22:04 understand the majority of what you are
22:06 saying
22:07 okay so right
22:11 oh chief clark if i can break in this is
22:13 councilmember d michelle
22:15 i i think maybe we have some council
22:17 members that have
22:18 questions uh when and i'm having
22:21 difficulty as well
22:22 hearing and seeing them so we've got
22:24 some technical issues tonight
22:26 so when we get to the uh end of this
22:28 slide
22:29 let's pause for a little bit and see if
22:31 we can catch up on any possible
22:33 questions
22:34 okay thank you and i'll do that and i
22:36 can also call in in that
22:38 in the interim there and see if that
22:40 helps
22:42 okay thanks so much my last slide is
22:45 is to um to assure the council and the
22:49 citizens
22:51 you will find no better prepared fire
22:53 department in county
22:54 for wildland um east side rescue for
22:57 decades has been the leader in the
22:58 regional involvement of fire response
23:00 throughout the western united states and
23:03 washington specifically we have more
23:06 trained firefighters um
23:08 and most every other department combined
23:10 when it comes to wildlife specialties
23:11 and the equipment that you have
23:12 supported us
23:14 and we'll continue to do that and we're
23:16 the only fire department that has
23:17 firefighter training and wildland
23:19 response so we are doing everything we
23:22 can
23:22 from agreements um using our experience
23:25 and deployment
23:26 um to to get on top of fires quickly
23:29 when they're small so they don't spread
23:32 into the
23:33 larger events so without end it there
23:35 and i will try calling in so i can
23:37 answer any questions
23:38 um we're asking questions at the end
23:41 i'll stay on
23:42 um give me some time to call in uh
23:48 thank you clark and um i understand
23:51 we're having trouble
23:52 tonight with the chat and not every
23:55 council member is able to
23:57 uh put into the chat that they want to
23:59 ask a question or they want to speak so
24:02 let's just do this the old-fashioned way
24:03 if you had a question or you wanted to
24:05 speak do you want to just hold up your
24:07 hand and
24:08 i'll call on you
24:14 all right councilman remarks
24:18 thank you councilmember d michelle uh so
24:22 when chief clark is back i think it's i
24:24 don't know if it's a
24:26 uh question for chief clark or uh
24:29 question for bob york i had always been
24:31 under the impression that issaquah was
24:33 considered at risk for wildland urban
24:35 interface fires and i remember
24:37 uh the old uh state fire chief told me
24:41 we were the poster child
24:43 for western washington but i i looked at
24:46 this
24:46 at the king county uh wui map
24:50 and it didn't actually have issaquah as
24:53 a risk area it had basically
24:57 east part of preston snoqualmie
25:00 unincorporated king county around
25:02 snoqualmie unincorporated
25:04 north bend with a little bit of the city
25:06 of northbound
25:11 followed by but we were not
25:14 uh we were not in that list so or we
25:17 were not on that map
25:18 so i'm just curious if we are compared
25:20 to the rest of
25:22 you know western king county uh at
25:25 higher risk
25:30 yield to him uh obviously he with north
25:33 bend as a part of his
25:34 service territory he's well equipped to
25:37 toss
25:39 how we sit right in some of the other
25:41 cities that are around us
25:42 including some amish
25:47 and i and i asked the question um not
25:50 not unrelated as a homeowner who sits
25:52 adjacent
25:53 to unincorporated king county and beyond
25:55 that
25:56 a state park
25:59 and counties king county folks are also
26:01 able to answer this question that are
26:03 on standby waiting for their
26:04 presentation so
26:07 chief clark are you back
26:11 i'm still on my computer i'm trying to
26:13 call in and it's not taking my access
26:15 code
26:15 i don't know if my quality has gotten
26:17 any better here the council member
26:20 is a question i can hear you fine but i
26:23 don't know about other people
26:27 okay thumbs up thumbs up chief clark go
26:30 ahead
26:31 okay so um we absolutely in issaquah and
26:34 i live here too as you may know
26:36 we are absolutely at a significant risk
26:39 for wildfire according to the wui maps
26:41 that were published
26:41 uh less than six months ago i did share
26:44 those with the board
26:45 um and um we're absolutely a significant
26:49 discount so this is north bend and the
26:51 eastern portion of smash
26:55 can we get those uh we maps by any
26:58 chance
27:01 absolutely i can i'll put them together
27:02 and get them to you this week
27:05 thank you
27:08 thank you councilmember mart um
27:10 councilmember walsh
27:13 thank you this is councilmember walsh um
27:16 chief clerk you talked a little bit
27:17 about evacuation routes being
27:19 one of the difficult issues for
27:22 communities when they do experience
27:24 a fire can you talk a little bit about
27:27 where we are
27:28 in setting that up it doesn't look like
27:30 we have signs up in the community
27:33 how would we communicate out to
27:36 the community in the case of need for
27:39 evacuation what those routes are
27:45 the actual evacuation routes is an
27:47 emergency management function
27:49 and that emergency management functions
27:50 just with the city of issaquah so
27:52 i'm not the right person to answer that
27:55 i'll defer to bob i'm not sure who
27:57 who's the person
28:04 this might be a rare opportunity for me
28:06 to have brenda talk because i'm
28:08 pretty sure she's brenda you can come on
28:12 uh and help me with that answer since
28:14 you've been doing this for a while
28:15 longer than i have
28:17 can you gun mute yourself brenda i
28:21 can you hear me yes so we have an
28:24 evacuation plan it's
28:26 rather old it was a plan put together by
28:30 e4 then emergency management and
28:34 the police department that's a
28:37 we have that in place so
28:41 that probably may need to be revisited
28:44 with help from police department and the
28:47 fire department
28:48 we need to review that
28:52 thank you can you talk about how we
28:54 would communicate that out
28:56 to the public in the case of an
28:57 emergency is there a communications plan
29:00 related to evacuation routes
29:03 maybe i'll yield to autumn if she's
29:06 if she's uh in the meeting
29:15 i don't think autumn's present tonight
29:17 but
29:18 brenda uh
29:23 there's all sorts of capabilities that
29:25 this squad has
29:26 with
29:30 radio and other communication uh
29:32 interventions
29:33 that i'm just learning myself harvey
29:37 uh you're on too are you do you have any
29:40 and
29:40 why did you let me take this bob it's
29:42 probably about quite the city
29:43 administrator
29:44 um i think as bob was saying we
29:45 certainly do have social media
29:47 uh but clearly uh we need to look at
29:49 that plan again i think signs
29:51 make a lot of sense and so part of
29:54 the purpose of this evening is to share
29:56 with you what we have and to get
29:58 some additional direction from you so
30:00 we'll take as a first piece of
30:02 additional direction to
30:03 review that evacuation plan and the next
30:05 time we come back with an update to
30:07 have more information for you thank you
30:10 ali
30:13 councilmember walsh do you have any
30:14 further questions
30:16 not at this time thanks thank you are
30:19 there any additional
30:20 questions before we move on to the next
30:22 speaker
30:25 all right i believe laura is up next
30:30 hello everybody can you hear me okay
30:33 yes it's great thank you and i believe
30:37 that bob is running the slides there we
30:39 go so it's very nice to meet you all
30:41 i'm laura whiteley bender i'm the
30:43 climate preparedness program manager for
30:45 king county so i work with king county
30:47 agencies to prepare for the impacts of
30:49 climate change and i also work with our
30:50 community partners
30:52 in other king county communities to help
30:54 support broader climate resilience
30:56 objectives
30:57 within the county jared schneider
31:00 from the office of emergency management
31:02 is here as
31:04 well uh jared you want to take a moment
31:05 to introduce yourself
31:07 yeah hi folks uh my name is jared
31:08 schneider and i am the hazard mitigation
31:10 program manager
31:11 for king county emergency management so
31:14 you know my
31:14 uh duties entail mitigating through
31:17 grants and otherwise
31:19 hazards that we face here specifically
31:23 so jared and i are working together with
31:26 along with king county communities and
31:28 partners to develop a king county
31:30 wildfire risk reduction strategy
31:32 and our goal tonight was to share with
31:34 you
31:35 what the vision is for that strategy and
31:37 how we
31:38 think it will help support improved or
31:40 increased wildfire preparedness within
31:42 the king county region
31:44 bob would you mind sliding next slide
31:50 so as bob noted this interest in
31:52 developing a wildfire strategy is really
31:54 stemming
31:55 from a confluence of events over the
31:57 last few years
31:59 certainly the wildfire smoke events in
32:01 2017 2018 and 2020
32:03 has resulted in an increased level of
32:05 awareness heightened activity
32:08 uh from where jared sits where i sit and
32:10 others we noticed
32:12 a lot of people were moving suddenly on
32:14 wildfire preparedness lots of
32:15 conversations lots of parallel efforts
32:17 and it was getting hard to track who was
32:19 doing what to necessarily know what were
32:20 the gaps
32:21 that we had in that work we also had
32:25 major regional wildfires the fires
32:27 nation washington
32:28 oregon and california were on our front
32:30 page of our newspapers every day
32:32 and the the tragic and compelling
32:35 stories coming out of those regions
32:37 we're leading many people to wonder
32:38 could that happen here are we ready for
32:40 that here
32:42 we had impactful local fires that even
32:45 the the fire last summer
32:46 well last september in pierce county it
32:49 was
32:50 a real eye-opener for many folks who
32:52 have been talking about the need for
32:54 wildfire preparedness it was one of
32:56 those things where
32:58 you know we can look at what happens in
32:59 eastern washington we can look at what
33:01 happens in california
33:02 and recognize those forests are
33:04 different and
33:05 western washington forests are very
33:07 different from our dryer eastside forest
33:10 from the california forests
33:12 and even some of our wash or our oregon
33:14 forests but
33:15 but pierce county right you're not
33:17 supposed to have a fire that burns for
33:18 four days in pierce county and yet we
33:20 did
33:21 so that really kind of started making it
33:24 feel like that bullseye was moving in
33:27 and then lastly as we've discussed a
33:28 little bit the new department of natural
33:30 resource wildland urban interface
33:32 or louis maps i think that is one of the
33:34 more entertaining acronyms in government
33:35 speak
33:37 that are in the process of being
33:39 released they've been out
33:41 for a little bit now they haven't been
33:43 officially signed off yet
33:45 by dnr but once they get signed off on
33:47 by dnr
33:48 it will also result in some changes in
33:51 building codes that
33:52 start to speak to some of these wildfire
33:54 preparedness needs
33:55 i'm going to show you that map now next
33:57 slide
34:00 so council member martz i think this
34:02 might help address
34:03 some of your questions although it is
34:04 very tiny on my screen
34:06 so i believe these slides may have been
34:08 shared with you
34:09 in advance or or will be available to
34:11 you and you could look at that
34:13 um later that arrow is actually pointing
34:15 to issaquah
34:17 as tiny as that is and what you see with
34:21 these new maps is
34:22 a substantial expansion relative to the
34:24 other maps of
34:26 what is considered the wildland urban
34:28 interface and this has
34:29 as much to do really with a change in
34:31 the methodology
34:32 and how this is mapped as well as just
34:34 the fact that we are
34:36 a more developed county now relative to
34:37 when those other maps were developed
34:40 uh what you see for issaquah you know is
34:42 a mix
34:43 of what you could see if if you uh had
34:46 magnifying glasses
34:47 are a mix of reds and yellows so
34:50 a mix of what's known as medium or high
34:52 interface areas
34:54 and areas with low or very low intermix
34:57 areas
34:58 so just for clarification intermix areas
35:01 are areas where houses and wildland
35:02 directly interface
35:04 interface areas or where structures are
35:06 scattered throughout
35:07 so all that to say that there there is a
35:10 wildfire risk there is a wui within
35:13 issaquah as well as many of our east
35:16 king county communities
35:18 next
35:21 the other thing that's motivating a lot
35:23 of the interest right now and this
35:25 wildfire strategy and general
35:26 and broader awareness around wildfire is
35:29 the issue of climate change
35:30 so we do know that climate change and
35:32 particularly rising temperatures
35:35 affect the frequency intensity and or
35:37 duration of extreme events
35:38 and particularly when it comes to
35:40 wildfire it's essentially loading the
35:42 dice
35:42 and creating conditions more favorable
35:44 to wildfire that doesn't mean that every
35:46 summer we're going to get a big wildfire
35:48 in western washington and and you know
35:50 historically we don't get big wildfires
35:53 except when we do we have what in our
35:55 region is known
35:56 as low frequency high intensity
36:00 fire return intervals so whereas in
36:02 eastern washington
36:04 it's usually in the absence of fire
36:06 suppression high frequency low intensity
36:08 on our side low frequency high intensity
36:11 the
36:12 last big major fires in our region huge
36:14 fires where the yakult
36:16 burn in western washington because
36:18 southwest washington
36:20 burned hundreds of thousands of acres in
36:23 in a matter of a few days so they can
36:26 we do have the potential for very large
36:28 and very quickly moving fires
36:31 but they are not very frequent but what
36:33 we do know is climate change is changing
36:35 that calculus
36:36 so with hotter temperatures drier
36:38 conditions it creates the conditions
36:40 that are more favorable to that type of
36:41 fire
36:42 we also know that today's choices shape
36:45 our vulnerabilities going forward so the
36:47 the actions we take or the actions that
36:49 we don't take now
36:51 will ultimately shape our vulnerability
36:53 to that fire
36:54 and so in that sense many of the
36:57 activities
36:57 that isoqua is pursuing not only do
37:00 those have
37:02 really strong near-term benefits in
37:04 terms of addressing and reducing
37:06 wildfire risk as we know it today but
37:08 they also produce benefits for
37:10 addressing wildfire risk in a changing
37:12 climate
37:13 next line so just a a
37:17 quick primer on how climate change
37:19 affects the potential for wildfire there
37:21 are several major components that really
37:23 affect wildfire in the northwest
37:26 uh and with that east western washington
37:28 so clearly our summer temperatures
37:30 are a major factor as is of course those
37:34 hotter spring temperatures summer if you
37:36 remember in 2015
37:37 we actually had quite a hot spring on
37:39 top of a low snow pack year
37:41 so that spring that snow pack is an
37:43 important factor as well
37:45 with lower snowpack or earlier snow melt
37:47 what you see is
37:48 an earlier drying out of soil conditions
37:51 and earlier drying out of fuels if we
37:54 get precipitation in july and august
37:56 then that may help but that's a big if
38:01 and the timing of our fall rains is a
38:03 big variable
38:04 if we get a late return of the fall
38:06 rains that's extending that wildfire
38:08 season and increasing the potential for
38:09 fire
38:10 that yakult burn that i mentioned
38:12 earlier happened in september
38:13 of 1902. our fires this summer
38:17 the the pierce county fire was in
38:18 september the convective activity is
38:20 lightning that's a big factor in eastern
38:22 washington less of a factor
38:24 in western washington but can be
38:27 can be certainly a cause for fires
38:30 and then just overall that the dryness
38:32 and the quantity of fuels
38:34 in our forest that dryness of course
38:36 coming with hotter temperatures
38:37 and drier conditions a big factor for
38:39 big fires in western washington is the
38:41 presence of east winds
38:43 so that can really make a difference
38:45 between a fire being
38:47 an acre or two or a fire
38:50 moving up quickly in size
38:54 next slide so the
38:58 the decision or the action to develop a
39:00 king county wildfire preparedness
39:02 strategy
39:03 uh is sorry wildfire risk reduction
39:05 strategy
39:06 is really a shared objective across
39:08 several major
39:10 county planning elements it is an action
39:13 that is cross listed within the recently
39:15 updated king county regional hazard
39:17 mitigation plan
39:18 it's an action in our recently updated
39:20 strategic climate action plan
39:22 and it is an action in our forthcoming
39:25 30-year forest plan
39:27 and that was intentional we wanted to
39:28 make sure that it was clear that these
39:30 plans were talking to each other and
39:32 recognize that each of these plans play
39:34 a role
39:35 in helping to support wildfire risk
39:36 reduction
39:38 i also want to know before i hand it
39:40 over to jared that as i talk about
39:41 wildfire risk reduction
39:43 this strategy does include wildfire
39:45 smoke and and paying attention to what
39:47 we need to do to address wildfire smoke
39:49 that is certainly something that we
39:52 have already experienced in recent years
39:54 and clearly can originate from fires
39:56 outside of the king county
39:58 region so it is important to recognize
40:01 that even as we think about what we need
40:02 to be doing to prepare for wildfire
40:05 occurring within king county we also
40:07 need to be preparing for
40:09 more frequent wildfire smoke events that
40:11 are happening because other parts of the
40:12 west are burning
40:14 so with that i'm going to turn it over
40:15 to jared
40:17 great thank you laura if we could
40:18 advance the next slide thank you all
40:20 right and so
40:21 as you've seen on that previous slide
40:23 you know this is a this is an effort
40:25 that is very connected
40:26 to other planning efforts and uh just as
40:30 it's connected it's also integrated is
40:32 what our strategy is intended to be
40:34 with forced health taking actions in the
40:36 wildland urban interface that we to risk
40:39 our uh or to reduce our risk and then
40:41 finally the emergency response element
40:44 so one thing i really appreciate about
40:45 chief clark's presentation was you know
40:47 he he comes from that response side
40:49 right but if you noticed a majority of
40:51 the slides was about preparedness right
40:53 and so that's exactly what
40:55 our risk reduction strategy is looking
40:56 to do it's it's taking
40:58 a comprehensive look from very top
41:00 forced health
41:01 you know down to the woos the areas that
41:03 are at risk and then finally that
41:04 response element
41:05 and so what what this strategy is is a
41:09 free advanced slide
41:12 it is intended to have the outcomes
41:15 where
41:16 we have the investments for the future
41:19 identified by the strategy
41:20 um it's supposed to identify where we
41:22 can leverage and amplify existing work
41:24 and lastly areas of opportunity for
41:25 future coordination work and
41:27 this high level strategy is really just
41:29 the beginning fall 2021
41:31 is our intended date in which we are
41:33 hoping to roll the strategy out
41:35 we're currently in the process of going
41:36 through interviews and talking to folks
41:38 you know who have a touch
41:39 and who have a part in this
41:41 comprehensive risk reduction strategy
41:44 and if we advance to the next slide
41:48 oh um well i thought i was going to talk
41:50 about a person but
41:51 my apologies but um that's the fallen
41:53 side but
41:54 you know we're reaching out to fire
41:55 communities reaching out to cities like
41:56 yourselves you know public health
41:58 peach sound clean air agency dnr you
42:01 know we are trying to take
42:03 this this large scale approach to this
42:05 wildfire risk reduction strategy
42:07 and the benefits of this is one we can
42:10 push
42:10 as a county as a community of
42:12 communities i think that's something
42:13 highlighted enough
42:14 while it's a king county you know plan
42:16 on the title it really is for the
42:18 community of communities
42:19 because wildfire they they don't respect
42:21 jurisdictional balance right
42:23 you know if there's a clause prepared
42:24 you know that's great but north bend
42:27 can county everyone needs to be prepared
42:29 right this is this is a regional effort
42:31 and that's our intention
42:32 so the benefits of a plan like this is
42:34 we can identify recommended practices
42:36 for all of our partners hopefully to
42:38 take uh create partnership and
42:39 coordination of activities across
42:41 jurisdictions just like i said
42:43 it takes integration to really make this
42:44 work find
42:46 share seek resources that's something
42:47 we've been hearing a lot from these
42:49 interviews
42:49 is that you know people just want to
42:51 know what one another are doing
42:53 they want to share best practices and
42:55 they want to speak with one voice you
42:56 know as a county
42:58 um we also want to still facilitate
43:01 incorporation wildfire priorities into
43:02 work plans strategic plans and land use
43:04 planning zoning right like
43:06 as lara pointed out this is becoming a
43:08 becoming a reality
43:09 in our area and it already is a reality
43:11 so we want to make sure
43:12 that this isn't something where we wait
43:14 to have a big event you know a big
43:15 paradise event king county to say
43:18 oh maybe we should start taking
43:19 wildfires seriously we want to start
43:21 working it in now to the way that we run
43:23 our governments
43:24 and then lastly we want to provide
43:26 foundation for grant applications
43:27 and uh strategically aligned resources
43:30 right so there is
43:31 you know federal dollars state dollars
43:33 out there where we can support
43:35 uh mitigation actions and you know other
43:37 pots of money to where we can actually
43:38 reduce our risk
43:39 so that's something those are the major
43:41 benefits of this plan if we could uh
43:43 move to the
43:44 next slide please
43:48 and you know as i mentioned there's a
43:50 lot of partners
43:51 helping in the development of this plan
43:52 you know we have king county fire
43:53 districts and zones we've talked to
43:55 ether already
43:56 i've talked to you know bob harvey
43:59 brenda we've had an interview you know
44:01 really trying to figure out where the
44:04 concern is
44:05 what would be valuable in the strategy
44:08 and we're trying to take this
44:09 like i said broad approach right so we
44:11 talk cities fire zones
44:12 have utilities we talk to pse spu scl
44:16 other king county departments seattle
44:19 king county public health
44:20 kutztown clean air agency we have an
44:22 area with them on thursday
44:24 uh king conservation district you know
44:26 who does a lot of the firewise type
44:28 activities and
44:29 consultations with private landowners uh
44:31 wc wsu extension
44:34 again they have that similar capability
44:36 our tribal partners
44:37 and again uh dnr so that's who we're
44:40 reaching out
44:41 to next slide
44:44 and so we just want to give you guys a
44:46 sneak peek of what we're hearing already
44:48 from these interview processes
44:50 like i said fall 2021 is really when
44:53 we're
44:53 thinking uh that we'll have the strategy
44:56 in a shareable format with
44:57 uh distilled information from these
45:00 pride interviews
45:01 but the main touch points that we're
45:03 hearing already is one
45:04 we need broader public awareness
45:06 wildfire risk that's something that we
45:07 almost hear across
45:08 every interview from every facet of
45:10 government we need public information
45:12 that's tailored to western washington
45:13 laura touched on this most of firewise
45:15 information
45:15 is intended for dry forests you know
45:18 forests that don't necessarily resemble
45:20 our own western washington forest
45:21 because
45:22 again you know keeping our own forest
45:24 green too is another priority right
45:26 um we need more community scale wildfire
45:29 mitigation and planning
45:30 more support firewise and other
45:32 landowner assistance changes in building
45:34 in zone cones we talked about the shake
45:35 roofs already
45:37 uh evacuation planning you know ingress
45:39 and egress evacuation routes from you
45:40 know communities like swat mountain in
45:42 taos right these are communities that
45:44 are in that we
45:45 that have limited ingress and egress so
45:47 we need to have plenty of effort about
45:48 that you know we heard the chief speak
45:50 on that and
45:50 you know council members as well uh
45:53 additional wildfire
45:54 fire response training you know ether
45:57 they have an incredible training program
45:58 but as the chief pointed out ether
46:01 really is the gold standard within the
46:03 county you know there's plenty of other
46:05 fire departments that share mutual aid
46:07 agreements you know that may not have
46:08 the same level of training so
46:10 we've heard that concern as well we need
46:13 more information on managing wildfire
46:14 smoke
46:15 touch on and then shared resources for
46:17 planning so shared risk
46:19 maps and uh best practices with one
46:21 another
46:22 so that's what we're hearing so far um
46:24 like i said you know we
46:26 we're gonna continue these interviews
46:28 and we're going to hear more and
46:29 you know y'all will be seeing a more
46:30 distilled version we'd be happy to come
46:32 back and speak to you once we you know
46:35 uh have uh have these best practices and
46:38 ideas about the strategy really
46:39 still but um i think if uh now's the
46:42 appropriate time we would love to hear
46:44 questions from anyone
46:50 thank you so much um do
46:53 i think we can use the chat now do any
46:56 council members have questions
47:07 i am not seeing any questions uh oh all
47:10 right councilman rewards
47:12 uh yeah the system doesn't seem to be
47:16 letting me enter uh chat text
47:20 it'll let me type it but it won't let me
47:23 enter it so that's unfortunate um
47:26 so my question is up there now it's
47:28 working okay
47:30 my question is my understanding is that
47:34 wildland fires in western washington are
47:37 primarily
47:38 uh when they when they talk about how
47:40 they start in eastern washington it's
47:42 lightning but in western washington
47:44 it's house fires is what i seem to
47:47 recall so my question is
47:49 does uh as part of county efforts or as
47:52 part of efer
47:54 um is there anything to do more rapid
47:56 response because
47:57 my understanding is the house fires burn
47:59 hot and they get into the canopy
48:01 and then once they're into the canopy
48:03 it's it's real bad from there
48:07 so when you talk about the unique stuff
48:09 to the western washington obviously it's
48:11 different uh it's a different fuel load
48:14 than it is in eastern washington but is
48:16 this thing about
48:17 house fires being a bigger risk for
48:19 wildfires true and
48:21 if so are there things that that uh we
48:24 can support with our fire districts
48:26 that will uh that will help respond to
48:29 that
48:31 this is cheap chief clark i'd be happy
48:32 to take a stab at that
48:34 um so a couple days but uh house fires
48:37 are
48:37 are a uh legitimate risk to the wildland
48:40 interface
48:41 and in the last several years we've had
48:44 many in the outlying areas uh the
48:46 closest one to esquire can recall was in
48:47 marimont
48:49 that did get up into the trees and we
48:52 routinely pre-deploy or deploy our
48:55 resources on dry days
48:57 for fires above the fire if it does come
49:02 when we know and we're watching the
49:03 weather during wildland season we do try
49:05 to stand up
49:06 brush trucks with extra staffing in
49:09 order to get ahead because you do have
49:10 to get on these small
49:12 but i'll tell you what's growing of more
49:14 concern even in what happened in pierce
49:16 county
49:17 is windy days and power lines that are
49:19 above ground um actually
49:20 we had hundreds of fire starts
49:23 throughout the region
49:24 on one day with wind and power lines
49:28 and the other significant threat that we
49:29 have in our service area and we have
49:31 pre-planned for the highlands
49:33 is a car fire on the side of the road of
49:35 90. um
49:36 car fires are very do start
49:40 lots of fires throughout the western
49:42 united states and in washington
49:44 and just even simple things like sparks
49:46 and unfortunately still cigarettes out
49:48 the window still occur
49:53 all right is there are when you talk
49:55 about
49:56 above ground uh electrical lines
49:59 are there things at the county or
50:01 municipal level that can be done with
50:03 the utilities to accelerate
50:05 the transition to below ground power uh
50:08 to reduce the
50:09 the fire risk
50:13 yeah um we've talked to some of the
50:15 utilities
50:16 they've they're actually taking wildfire
50:19 you know
50:19 they've seen from uh pg e
50:22 you know down in california and you know
50:24 some of the actions that they've had to
50:26 deal with you know as a consequence of
50:28 powerline certifiers and they are
50:30 already
50:31 taking efforts to harden their power
50:34 lines they're looking um
50:35 at couple mitigation strategies in ways
50:38 that you know they can reduce the risk
50:40 i don't think bearing the lines was
50:41 actually one that they did mention i
50:43 don't want to speak you know
50:44 too much on behalf of them but what i
50:46 but what we have understood from our
50:47 interviews with them is
50:49 it's it's on their radar they're taking
50:51 the actions already but i understand too
50:53 your
50:54 point for accelerating and um we we can
50:57 push to you
50:58 on in our channels to see if there's
50:59 ways that we can maybe accelerate that
51:01 process lara just
51:02 mad yeah i'll just note that um bearing
51:05 power lines
51:05 is incredibly expensive and so it is
51:09 something that's being discussed in
51:10 california
51:11 um i i think there's a question of
51:15 whether that would be
51:16 the appropriate um
51:21 the appropriate near-term response i
51:23 think based on what we know at this
51:25 point in time
51:26 right now a lot of the efforts are on
51:29 ensuring
51:30 you know maintenance of those power
51:31 lines that was a big problem in
51:32 california those those lines just
51:34 weren't being maintained
51:36 but also looking at vegetation
51:38 management
51:39 and both not only in the right of way
51:42 that the utilities have ownership of but
51:45 also trying to work with property owners
51:47 for those
51:48 hazard trees that are just on the
51:50 outside of that right of way
51:52 but because they're tall trees if they
51:54 go down they have the potential to fall
51:56 into those power lines
51:58 but yes it is a very active area of
52:00 conversation within the utility industry
52:02 right now
52:02 and we will be working with utilities to
52:06 have actions in the strategy i i hadn't
52:09 been thinking the big
52:11 high voltage super tall power lines i've
52:13 been thinking more
52:15 where there's you know house i mean i
52:17 don't know where
52:18 where these are but i mean i assume
52:20 there are some areas around king county
52:22 that have
52:23 you know house height you know municipal
52:25 power coming
52:26 in to houses and whether those start
52:29 fires or not i
52:30 i mean i don't know but those are the
52:32 ones that seemed like they'd be cost
52:33 efficient
52:34 to convert below ground
52:41 thank you thank you uh deputy
52:45 deputy council president ray thank you
52:48 councilmember d michelle this is chris
52:49 wray
52:50 i want to talk just briefly about the uh
52:52 what was it called it was the home
52:54 ignition zone and what are we doing or
52:57 what have we done or what we plan to do
53:00 to get word out about
53:03 this because it seems like that's the
53:05 best way to defend
53:06 people's houses and is there are there
53:08 any programs to help people
53:10 to do that if they are so inclined and i
53:13 was thinking
53:14 about the uh grants that
53:17 jared uh obliquely alluded to and if
53:20 there was
53:21 any opportunity for grant funding for
53:23 doing something like
53:24 pushing an issue around that
53:29 yeah you know so um in full and full
53:32 disclosure it's actually something that
53:34 i'm still learning about myself you know
53:36 and really trying to understand what
53:38 type of resources are out there
53:39 there is you know like i said it has
53:41 mitigation grants there's a
53:42 fire management assistance grants um
53:46 frankly i don't think we've really
53:47 tapped in as a region into those grants
53:49 before
53:50 so it's a little bit of uncharted
53:52 territory
53:53 um so to answer your question i i'm not
53:56 entirely sure what they could all entail
53:57 or the requirements but i would happy to
53:59 i'd be happy to do some research and you
54:01 know share it back to bob where he can
54:02 share to you or come back and speak
54:03 about it
54:04 that would be awesome thanks sure okay
54:08 uh did you get your question answered
54:10 and any more questions
54:12 no okay uh councilmember walsh i'm just
54:16 gonna check and see
54:17 if we have any other questions or public
54:20 comments before i start taking
54:22 council comments if that's all right
54:24 with you okay
54:26 um clerk did we do did anybody come
54:30 online to
54:31 make a public comment
54:34 no we still don't have anyone from the
54:36 public on the line with us tonight
54:38 all right and i don't believe we
54:40 received any email comments
54:42 either all right so uh councilmember
54:45 walsh
54:46 uh let's start with comments then
54:50 yeah so i think ever
54:54 you're absolutely right that this is
54:55 something that is on people's minds
54:58 much more because of the wildfire smoke
55:00 much more because
55:01 of um the risks that we've seen
55:04 on the west coast and i think it
55:06 behooves us to
55:07 take it seriously i also think we have
55:10 an interesting point
55:12 where we've got a community that's
55:16 very interested in giving back very
55:19 interest in connecting with others in
55:21 the middle of a pandemic
55:22 and what better way to do that than to
55:24 be outside
55:26 and be able to do something and so being
55:28 able to organize
55:31 community-wide days or
55:33 neighborhood-wide days where we're
55:36 encouraging people to
55:38 get out and clear around their
55:40 properties
55:41 sounds like a wonderful way this spring
55:44 and summer
55:45 to engage our community while
55:48 also listening to the advice of
55:51 many of the experts that we've said and
55:53 so i would be interested
55:55 in seeing if that's something that we
55:57 can do i think it
55:58 presents an opportunity that our
56:00 community would rise to the occasion for
56:03 um and give us something that we feel
56:06 like we
56:06 can do in the middle of
56:10 a very difficult time
56:14 it thank you councilmember walsh i
56:16 believe the administration
56:18 is asking if they are on the right track
56:20 with this plan
56:21 and if there's anything we think should
56:24 be added
56:25 or that they've forgotten so are there
56:27 any additional comments
56:36 city administrator bob quits do you have
56:38 what you need or would you
56:39 like additional thoughts
56:43 uh counselor michelle i think council
56:45 deputy council president ray has a
56:46 comment
56:47 ah sorry about that i've gotta watch
56:50 watch the hands
56:51 go ahead thank you thank you uh
56:55 both uh council member d michelle and
56:56 city administrator bob quits uh chris
56:59 ray
56:59 um question or a comment around i think
57:02 we are doing the right thing i think we
57:04 are on the right track
57:06 i would like to see us do more around
57:08 community outreach and
57:09 communications and i think we do need to
57:12 get some answers about the
57:13 the uh the question that council member
57:16 walsh brought up earlier which is
57:18 um what's what does evacuation look like
57:20 because thinking back to paradise it was
57:23 um it wasn't paradise so um you know i
57:26 think and there are some neighborhoods
57:27 um i live in talus so i'm particularly
57:29 uh squeamish about that
57:31 um so i think there's some work to do
57:33 around both communications and
57:35 um evacuation planning
57:40 thank you any further comments
57:46 and councilmember d michelle if i can
57:47 just uh add uh first of all thank you to
57:50 our presenters
57:51 thank you to the council uh this is an
57:54 important issue
57:55 uh i think it's important for us as your
57:57 city staff working with our partners to
57:59 kind of refresh
58:00 uh our plans and i think the
58:03 the council deputy council president
58:04 councilmember walsh you know
58:06 hit on some of those but i also think
58:08 it's that community organizing we have a
58:11 long-standing cert
58:12 program i think we need to leverage that
58:15 as well
58:15 uh when we look at uh disasters and
58:18 emergency preparedness
58:20 sort of writ large for the community of
58:22 course this is only one
58:23 um you know we we also have flooding we
58:26 also have earthquakes we also have
58:28 other bad weather issues and i think we
58:32 need to continue to leverage
58:33 the resources of our community members
58:35 as we deal with this as well so i
58:37 appreciate
58:38 the feedback we will continue to work on
58:40 this
58:41 come back to you appropriately with the
58:44 updates
58:45 uh but appreciate the time you spent
58:46 tonight on the subject
58:48 wonderful customer remarks that i see
58:51 your hand up
58:53 no i said sorry uh
58:57 i will just add my two cents and that is
59:00 that i
59:01 uh agree with everyone who was talking
59:03 about
59:04 increased community awareness and
59:08 i think that a lot of people are not
59:09 aware that there is even a danger
59:11 and but it clearly has been identified
59:14 already
59:15 through public outreach but i just want
59:17 to underline that
59:18 otherwise i think uh i think that the
59:21 plan itself is very thorough
59:23 and uh and i think that it should
59:25 proceed
59:26 so um city administrator bob quits do
59:29 you have everything you need then
59:31 yes we do thank you again okay we'll
59:34 move on to
59:36 the uh next item on the agenda which is
59:40 id 0814
59:43 police accountability equity and human
59:45 services action plan update
59:47 and this is being presented by gene paul
59:50 our management analyst
59:54 evening council members my name is jean
59:56 paul i'm the management analyst in the
59:57 executive office
59:58 i'll be beginning the presentation
1:00:00 tonight on the police accountability
1:00:02 equity
1:00:03 and human services action plan but i'll
1:00:05 also be joined by
1:00:06 stephanie johnson the human resources
1:00:08 director and monica nagrilla the human
1:00:11 services manager and then later in the
1:00:13 evening police chief scott bierbaum will
1:00:15 also have some presentations regarding
1:00:17 the action plan
1:00:18 okay the purpose of tonight's
1:00:22 presentation is to write the council and
1:00:23 update on the action plan
1:00:25 and then provide the context for those
1:00:26 four separate presentations later this
1:00:29 evening
1:00:29 where the administration will be seeking
1:00:31 city council feedback
1:00:35 as background the action plan was
1:00:37 drafted in the summer of 2020
1:00:39 in response to input from the city
1:00:41 council and the community
1:00:43 the city council endorsed the final
1:00:44 version of the action plan
1:00:46 on august 10th and the administration
1:00:48 provided the first
1:00:49 update on the plan at the november 2nd
1:00:51 city council meeting
1:00:52 tonight's update is the second update on
1:00:55 the action plan
1:00:59 here's the high level summary of both
1:01:01 the historical and current status for
1:01:03 each action
1:01:04 on the direction each item on the action
1:01:08 at the november update nine actions were
1:01:10 classified as on track
1:01:12 two actions had missed their initial
1:01:14 deadlines and were considered minor
1:01:15 challenges
1:01:16 and the administration had scheduled
1:01:18 work on seven items to begin in 2021
1:01:21 finally two actions at that point were
1:01:23 complete
1:01:24 currently 14 actions are progressing
1:01:26 well and considered on track
1:01:28 only two items remain scheduled for
1:01:30 future start dates
1:01:31 and four actions are now considered
1:01:33 complete
1:01:35 the entire update with a brief narrative
1:01:37 for each action
1:01:38 is included in tonight's packet but
1:01:40 rather than go over every action
1:01:42 the administration really wanted to
1:01:43 focus on the significant changes
1:01:45 since the last update and set the stage
1:01:47 for the four distinct conversations
1:01:48 tonight
1:01:50 we'll do that by focusing on the three
1:01:51 different themes of police
1:01:53 accountability
1:01:54 equity and human services
1:01:59 for police accountability actions there
1:02:01 are three significant influences
1:02:03 on the items in the action plan the
1:02:05 first
1:02:06 is the state legislative session that is
1:02:08 currently ongoing
1:02:09 and scheduled to end on april 25th
1:02:12 actions on the city's plan that could be
1:02:14 impacted by new legislation
1:02:16 include the discipline and termination
1:02:18 of police officers
1:02:19 training program requirements and a
1:02:21 community review board
1:02:23 chief scott bierbaum will discuss
1:02:24 proposals in the state legislative
1:02:26 legislature
1:02:27 in his police department budget and
1:02:29 operations update that follows this
1:02:31 presentation
1:02:33 the second influence on the police
1:02:35 accountability actions is the expiration
1:02:37 of the school resource officer
1:02:39 memorandum of understanding with ischool
1:02:42 district
1:02:43 this topic will also be covered in
1:02:44 greater detail in chief bierbaum's
1:02:46 second presentation tonight
1:02:49 finally the potential creation of a
1:02:51 community equity commission
1:02:53 would provide a venue for inputs on
1:02:54 actions and the police accountability
1:02:57 regarding community complaints data
1:02:59 collection and data reporting
1:03:04 equity actions are the next component of
1:03:06 the action plan and stephanie johnson
1:03:08 human resources director is going to
1:03:10 provide the update on city staff
1:03:12 training
1:03:12 and the racial equity framework
1:03:16 thank you gene good evening council boy
1:03:18 i get the pleasure of talking about the
1:03:20 good work that our internal equity team
1:03:23 has been doing
1:03:24 um over uh you know a handful of months
1:03:26 that started in 2020
1:03:29 we met as a team uh in january and did a
1:03:33 retreat to focus our you know work plan
1:03:35 items for 2021 on
1:03:37 a couple of different deliverables that
1:03:40 i want to talk to you about tonight
1:03:42 the first item is our city-wide equity
1:03:44 training for city staff
1:03:47 um we are working on two different
1:03:49 training components
1:03:50 uh to date uh the first item that we
1:03:54 have uh purchased is an onware software
1:03:57 training
1:03:58 tool we purchased this software in late
1:04:01 2020 following our last update with the
1:04:04 council in november
1:04:07 we had managers and supervisors review
1:04:09 this online training
1:04:12 piloted in december and january and we
1:04:15 introduced it organizationally february
1:04:19 to all staff the rollout of this
1:04:22 trilliant software introduces the
1:04:25 organization
1:04:26 to three different trainings as some
1:04:28 foundational training
1:04:30 similar to training that the council did
1:04:32 in august
1:04:33 of last year the first module that we
1:04:37 introduced to staff
1:04:38 this month is on unconscious bias
1:04:41 uh in march we will introduce workplace
1:04:44 diversity
1:04:44 inclusion and sensitivity uh followed in
1:04:47 april by microaggressions in the
1:04:49 workplace
1:04:51 uh you know we're at february 23rd today
1:04:54 i did a quick
1:04:54 update today with staff on some report
1:04:57 out that this software gives us
1:04:59 we have about 75 um of our staff
1:05:02 uh completing already the unconscious
1:05:04 bias training in february
1:05:07 wall staff is going through those three
1:05:12 training modules over the next months
1:05:14 we're also working
1:05:16 on our larger training package with a
1:05:18 consultant that we've just identified in
1:05:20 the last
1:05:21 in the last weeks we're putting um pin
1:05:24 paper on contract for that this larger
1:05:27 training
1:05:27 will you know focus on foundational
1:05:30 understanding of equity
1:05:31 in particular racial equity um
1:05:34 you know we we hope to do larger cohort
1:05:38 training
1:05:39 um but you know the the original
1:05:42 work of or excuse not original work but
1:05:45 the work that we're doing with the
1:05:46 modules will give a nice introduction to
1:05:50 prepared as we build the larger
1:05:51 city-wide equity training
1:05:54 the other item that the equity team is
1:05:56 working on
1:05:58 or would like to begin work on for 2021
1:06:01 is building out what our
1:06:02 racial equity framework looks like um
1:06:06 you know often this is referred to as a
1:06:08 tool kit
1:06:10 an equity lens a framework
1:06:13 we are going to be building this to
1:06:15 bring back to the council in
1:06:17 in future uh sessions to talk about
1:06:21 how we build a framework as we look at
1:06:23 policies
1:06:24 uh procedures the work we do
1:06:26 organizationally so that we can do
1:06:28 that work through an equity lens so
1:06:31 these are the two big
1:06:32 items that the equity team is working on
1:06:35 i'd be remiss if i didn't mention
1:06:37 that we continue uh you know just uh
1:06:40 looking at our recruitment processes
1:06:42 within equity lens
1:06:44 and building uh you know that out as
1:06:48 um later in the agenda tonight i'll be
1:06:51 uh presenting uh what we're looking at
1:06:53 next uh for city council equity training
1:06:57 and i don't know if we're pausing in
1:06:59 between for questions or moving on to
1:07:01 the end so
1:07:02 i guess i'll pause there and ask that
1:07:07 thank you so much are there any uh
1:07:09 council members who would like to ask
1:07:11 questions or comment on the
1:07:13 presentation and i can't
1:07:16 see all of you so you'll have to put it
1:07:18 in the chat
1:07:26 i am not seeing any i know that we've
1:07:28 got a delay on the chat so i'm just
1:07:30 waiting a little bit longer than usual
1:07:32 to see if anybody gets
1:07:35 gets it in there
1:07:40 you know i'm not seeing anybody and so
1:07:43 i guess that we will move on thank you
1:07:45 so much
1:07:46 okay i'll hand it back over to gene or
1:07:48 whom next is on our presenter list thank
1:07:51 thanks thank you stephanie human
1:07:54 services is the
1:07:55 third theme of the action plan and
1:07:57 tonight uh human services manager
1:08:00 monica guerilla is going to provide an
1:08:01 update
1:08:03 okay good evening council members this
1:08:05 is monica grewing human services
1:08:08 um tonight uh um for you we have
1:08:11 uh three brief human services updates uh
1:08:14 staffing related
1:08:16 updates um an update on the human
1:08:18 services commission
1:08:19 uh equity work and an update on the
1:08:22 community court thing uh the first two
1:08:25 items we will focus on
1:08:27 you know in a more specific presentation
1:08:30 in just a few minutes
1:08:31 and so for now i'm gonna focus on
1:08:33 providing you with an update on the
1:08:35 community court planning
1:08:38 also with us tonight is christy shawn
1:08:40 our issaquah
1:08:41 court administrator so she's going to be
1:08:44 available for questions
1:08:46 so next slide please gene
1:08:52 you so the issaquah municipal court is
1:08:55 currently working
1:08:57 on starting a community court as an
1:09:00 alternative
1:09:01 model to the traditional court system
1:09:05 and why is that um it's because uh
1:09:08 there's
1:09:08 growing research and evidence that the
1:09:10 traditional model
1:09:12 um is not working for everyone um so the
1:09:16 community court comes as a resource
1:09:18 for the current criminal justice system
1:09:20 in helping address
1:09:22 low-level crimes and really uh help
1:09:24 address
1:09:25 um some of the um inequities that we've
1:09:28 historically uh in the criminal justice
1:09:31 system especially with
1:09:34 members of the community who
1:09:37 may not
1:09:41 respond well to the traditional models
1:09:44 so the community court provides an
1:09:46 opportunity to
1:09:50 create a problem-solving approach to
1:09:52 local crime
1:09:53 and safety concerns and it provides a
1:09:57 wraparound service model
1:09:58 where participants are enrolled in a
1:10:00 variety of services
1:10:02 depending on their service needs and
1:10:04 their unique circumstances
1:10:06 that range from treatment to community
1:10:08 service
1:10:10 to employment or education so
1:10:13 the community court provides an
1:10:15 opportunity to treat the actual
1:10:17 problems and not just the symptoms um
1:10:20 the community court also provides for an
1:10:22 opportunity to
1:10:23 implement a person-centered approach or
1:10:25 to get to know the individual and not
1:10:28 the defendant as in the traditional
1:10:30 models
1:10:31 um and as mentioned yes uh hopefully it
1:10:34 will stop
1:10:35 um the revolving door of the criminal
1:10:38 justice system where the same
1:10:39 participants come back
1:10:41 uh into the system multiple times
1:10:44 next slide please
1:10:47 so the intent of the community court is
1:10:50 really to reduce
1:10:51 recidivism uh to reduce use of jail
1:10:54 especially for low income offenses
1:10:57 and ultimately to really improve public
1:11:00 trust
1:11:01 in the justice system and create a safer
1:11:03 community
1:11:04 next slide please
1:11:08 so in terms of a few updates on where
1:11:11 the court is currently with
1:11:15 the plan in the planning process for the
1:11:17 community court
1:11:18 to date the team the core team has been
1:11:22 identified for the project
1:11:24 including service providers um also the
1:11:27 the court has identified a consultant
1:11:30 uh who could help um really set up the
1:11:33 details
1:11:33 and oversee um the process to really
1:11:37 begin the
1:11:37 community court we
1:11:41 visited and learned from other
1:11:43 jurisdictions
1:11:45 and the court is also looking for ways
1:11:47 to coordinate
1:11:49 and create efficiencies with other
1:11:51 jurisdictions in
1:11:52 in our region um the role of the human
1:11:55 services division
1:11:56 in in the community court really lies in
1:11:59 providing support
1:12:00 and resources for the community resource
1:12:03 center
1:12:04 which is um the part of the court that
1:12:06 provides
1:12:08 support services and resources for
1:12:10 participants
1:12:12 so specifically our division will help
1:12:14 identify and coordinate those service
1:12:16 providers
1:12:18 the launch the estimated tentative
1:12:21 launch dates
1:12:22 launch date is july 1st
1:12:25 and i think that concludes my brief
1:12:28 presentation and again
1:12:29 christy shawn is also available for
1:12:32 questions
1:12:34 thank you monica uh i do see that
1:12:36 councilmember march has a question for
1:12:39 thank you uh thank you councilmember
1:12:42 uh michelle so uh i was
1:12:46 looking at the issaquah police
1:12:49 accountability
1:12:50 equity and human services action plan um
1:12:53 this isn't part of that is it
1:12:57 yes you are correct this was not
1:12:58 identified initially on on the action
1:13:01 however it's part of the
1:13:05 entire process of focusing more on
1:13:08 support services and human services
1:13:11 related
1:13:12 activities that can help address the
1:13:13 inequities in our system
1:13:15 so we included it later as part of the
1:13:17 bigger
1:13:18 um larger system change that we are
1:13:21 trying to
1:13:22 um okay okay was this presented to the
1:13:25 council can you remind me when we
1:13:27 approved this
1:13:29 um the the action plan no this is
1:13:32 community court
1:13:34 um no i don't think that this is um i
1:13:36 think this might be the second time
1:13:39 uh that um council hears a little bit
1:13:41 about us but i don't think it came yet
1:13:42 to counsel for approval
1:13:44 um so is it it sounds i mean it's being
1:13:47 presented like it's moving forward
1:13:50 but i don't think council's made a
1:13:51 decision on it
1:13:54 um so that's what's got me confused
1:13:57 right uh thank you i think that is a
1:13:59 great point and
1:14:00 i'm gonna found someone for help because
1:14:03 i don't know if i was involved in all
1:14:04 the process and kind of like to see what
1:14:07 the mechanism is for approval um
1:14:10 city administrator bob kowitz um do you
1:14:13 have additional insight into this
1:14:15 uh certainly uh thank you customer
1:14:17 reliance members of the council
1:14:18 uh this is an initiative the court's
1:14:20 been working on really that kind of
1:14:21 predates
1:14:22 uh the uh the police accountability
1:14:25 action plan
1:14:25 we wanted to give you an update with us
1:14:27 we think it's certainly consistent
1:14:29 uh with the work that the court has been
1:14:31 doing over over time and what we've been
1:14:33 doing as a city
1:14:34 uh we certainly can bring back
1:14:36 additional information uh
1:14:38 to the council we wanted uh tonight to
1:14:40 make sure that the council
1:14:42 is aware that this is going on and if
1:14:44 other council members are
1:14:45 would have additional questions we can
1:14:46 certainly bring this back for further
1:14:48 discussion
1:14:50 well is it is it being budgeted within
1:14:54 the purview of the mayor's ability to
1:14:58 small projects it seems like it seems
1:15:01 like a public policy
1:15:03 issue that would normally come before
1:15:04 council before work would
1:15:06 progress on it um again
1:15:09 this is it is something it looks for uh
1:15:12 an additional i think it's under ten
1:15:14 thousand dollars that will be needed
1:15:16 uh to move forward with this initiative
1:15:18 again this is something that it grew
1:15:20 from the court staff and i think the
1:15:21 administration's perspective is this is
1:15:23 very consistent
1:15:24 with the work that uh we've already been
1:15:26 doing if the council feels that
1:15:28 additional discussions require then we
1:15:30 can i'll certainly speak with the mayor
1:15:32 we'll see what we need to do to put it
1:15:34 on a future agenda i mean
1:15:35 i would be interested to know this
1:15:38 sounds like it's a diversion from the
1:15:40 traditional court
1:15:41 i'd be interested in knowing what kind
1:15:43 of cases we
1:15:45 would qualify and the expected volume
1:15:48 that's anticipated
1:15:50 and the different uh
1:15:53 sort of uh restorative justice model
1:15:56 that would be employed
1:15:58 and those sorts of uh those sorts of
1:16:00 questions i think the community right
1:16:04 is uh concerned about
1:16:07 uh perhaps an uptick
1:16:11 in um property crime and so with that
1:16:14 lens i
1:16:16 i'd like to know more i don't know how
1:16:17 my fellow council members feel thank you
1:16:21 okay thank you uh deputy deputy council
1:16:24 president
1:16:25 ray has the next comment uh thank you
1:16:28 council member d michelle
1:16:29 this is chris ray um i
1:16:32 um i don't know um that i
1:16:36 would be opposed to um the the
1:16:39 modification to the court system but it
1:16:41 does seem to me to be a big public
1:16:43 policy
1:16:44 uh departure and would like to have some
1:16:48 discussion and debate so i think i'm i'm
1:16:50 kind of aligned with councilmember marks
1:16:52 on this that
1:16:52 that you know may be a great idea but
1:16:55 can we
1:16:56 um kind of get some uh
1:16:59 uh some public transparency and and
1:17:03 and learn more about this so we can make
1:17:06 a good
1:17:06 informed public policy decision
1:17:12 thank you council president hunt
1:17:16 thank you this is council president hunt
1:17:20 i would i i think that um
1:17:23 it would be helpful to know what
1:17:25 actually is
1:17:27 um within the purview of the court
1:17:29 because
1:17:30 i know that there are certain things
1:17:32 that they are able to do
1:17:34 changes that they're able to make so i
1:17:36 would just i don't have that framing
1:17:38 right now i think this has been
1:17:39 presented twice to us as informational
1:17:41 if um for that subsequent conversation
1:17:44 if we could have some information about
1:17:45 what actually
1:17:46 um the policy question would be that
1:17:50 that is within the purview of council i
1:17:52 think that would be
1:17:53 helpful because i do know that um there
1:17:55 are certain administrative
1:17:56 certain logistical those sorts of things
1:17:58 that are squarely within the
1:18:00 court's ability to make changes
1:18:07 are there any additional comments or
1:18:10 questions
1:18:12 council member michelle members of the
1:18:13 council i know christie shawn
1:18:15 is on uh the call this evening christy i
1:18:18 don't know if you want to add anything
1:18:19 or we can just perhaps bring this back
1:18:21 as an informational item at a future
1:18:23 city council meeting
1:18:24 and and have the judge here as well to
1:18:26 speak to it
1:18:27 correct we can bring the judge back and
1:18:29 uh thank you council members
1:18:31 uh for listening tonight i can um answer
1:18:34 few of the quick questions um what we
1:18:37 will be looking at is
1:18:38 um all non-violent um
1:18:41 low-level offenses so will be things
1:18:45 theft third disorderly conduct charges
1:18:49 like that
1:18:50 where we see that people won't reoffend
1:18:53 if there are provided services um
1:18:57 about a third of our cases qualify as
1:18:59 low level
1:19:00 offenses which is about five to six
1:19:02 hundred cases a year
1:19:04 um usually in most programs only about
1:19:08 participants participate in any given
1:19:11 year in the program
1:19:13 but we can bring all that back
1:19:21 thank you that actually was my question
1:19:24 you answered my question so
1:19:26 thank you uh for that uh and i think it
1:19:29 would be
1:19:30 uh good for us to have more information
1:19:33 um generally i support this approach
1:19:35 because um
1:19:37 i i'm just aware of many like you say
1:19:40 low-level offenders who
1:19:41 could use an alternative approach and
1:19:44 would probably have a better outcome
1:19:45 through that but i think it would be
1:19:47 good for us to have more information
1:19:50 do any of my other council members have
1:19:52 questions or concerns i see council
1:19:54 member goodman
1:19:55 would like to speak uh thank you
1:19:57 councilmember goodman i have two
1:19:59 questions
1:19:59 um first could we find out when this was
1:20:03 presented before
1:20:04 um what meeting and second of all
1:20:08 um a question for christy um christy is
1:20:11 more of a deferral so if it's not
1:20:14 there's not a charge if there
1:20:16 unless there's a reoffend if you follow
1:20:18 through through with the pro
1:20:19 with the program um which it would be
1:20:23 different than just
1:20:25 uh no charges at all which is what has
1:20:28 been in the news lately
1:20:29 for low um misdemeanors for example that
1:20:32 seattle had talked about
1:20:34 could you speak to that if if you know
1:20:36 could you speak to that just one minute
1:20:37 yes thank you councilman um the
1:20:42 charge is filed with the prosecutor's
1:20:44 office and they
1:20:45 the prosecutor's office will file the
1:20:47 charges with the court
1:20:48 uh the defen um the participant were
1:20:50 getting away from defendant
1:20:52 the participant would then um enter into
1:20:54 a stipulated order of continuance which
1:20:57 very similar to it to a deferral and
1:21:00 usually it's for a year period of time
1:21:03 and at the end of that year if they
1:21:04 comply with the program
1:21:06 and um and they do have to attend weekly
1:21:10 hearings to meet with providers at the
1:21:12 end if they graduate the program
1:21:14 the case is dismissed
1:21:18 um thank you very much um
1:21:21 are we having con comments as well um
1:21:24 councilmember d michelle are we waiting
1:21:25 until all questions are out
1:21:27 i think we've had a mixture so so please
1:21:29 go ahead
1:21:30 okay great um i think the if
1:21:34 this is coming back i think uh the
1:21:36 information that i would like
1:21:37 um to go along with this is also um
1:21:42 how it is that we anticipate
1:21:46 being able to match people
1:21:50 to services to and ensure that we have
1:21:54 services available and that when i say
1:21:57 available
1:21:58 um the participant i guess we're not
1:22:02 going to use
1:22:02 defendant just to be respectful um
1:22:04 participant
1:22:05 also needs to have access to those
1:22:07 services which means sometimes they
1:22:09 there's a cost associated with them so i
1:22:12 think having a more thorough
1:22:13 conversation about how that
1:22:16 works would be helpful that's just a
1:22:18 comment thank you
1:22:22 thank you council council member um
1:22:25 goodman
1:22:25 um i see councilmember walsh would like
1:22:28 to make a comment next
1:22:30 thank you this is councilmember welsh um
1:22:32 i do remember
1:22:33 this conversation earlier rather the
1:22:36 presentation of the information
1:22:38 from the court system um i was very
1:22:41 impressed with it at that point
1:22:43 i think the questions that the council
1:22:45 members have brought up are good
1:22:46 questions i'd love to hear them answered
1:22:48 um i think if anything i'm going to be
1:22:51 pushing
1:22:52 for us to do more uh when we come to
1:22:54 that policy conversation so thank you
1:22:59 thank you are there any other questions
1:23:01 or comments
1:23:04 um city clerk has anyone come online to
1:23:07 make a comment on this item
1:23:15 uh councilmember d michelle let me do a
1:23:17 quick look here
1:23:18 to see if we have any members of the
1:23:20 public i also am
1:23:21 unsure if we've reached the conclusion
1:23:23 of this portion of the presentation
1:23:28 on this item
1:23:31 there's really just one more slide okay
1:23:37 why don't you just go ahead with the
1:23:39 last slide councilmember d michelle
1:23:41 then we'll we'll be done with this with
1:23:42 this item sounds good
1:23:44 sounds good
1:23:48 so really just in terms of timing and
1:23:50 next steps to wrap this up
1:23:51 uh the four presentations we've already
1:23:53 mentioned are up next on tonight's
1:23:55 agenda
1:23:55 and then just looking a little long-term
1:23:57 uh the administration's planning for the
1:23:59 next update on the entire action plan
1:24:02 at the may 11 city city council study
1:24:05 session
1:24:05 so that that concludes our first
1:24:07 presentation and we're available if
1:24:09 there are any more
1:24:10 questions or comments before moving on
1:24:13 are there any more questions or comments
1:24:18 and i see that no members of the public
1:24:20 are on the call at this time
1:24:22 so i think that we will move on to the
1:24:25 next item thank you so much for the
1:24:27 presentation
1:24:29 um see the next item is id 0844
1:24:34 police department budget and operations
1:24:37 and this will be presented by
1:24:38 police chief bierbaum thank you council
1:24:41 member d michelle
1:24:42 um i'll start sharing my screen for the
1:24:46 presentation
1:24:51 making sure i have the correct one here
1:24:53 that i pull up
1:25:07 if you can tell me are you seeing the
1:25:09 police operations and budget
1:25:11 fully yes we can also see
1:25:14 your next slide that's coming up so
1:25:18 all right well then i apologize yes this
1:25:21 is tisha if you go to display settings
1:25:23 at the top of your screen in the
1:25:25 powerpoint
1:25:27 um on your notes page there we go
1:25:30 okay got it you're good okay so
1:25:34 you have the full presentation now
1:25:37 yes okay great thank you
1:25:41 all right so tonight's uh conversation
1:25:44 did i lose you now
1:25:48 now you're fine all right i apologize um
1:25:51 do we see the purpose of tonight's
1:25:52 uh presentation thank you yes okay
1:25:56 uh today is an opportunity to provide
1:25:58 just an update on our operations and
1:25:59 budget uh last year uh when we last had
1:26:02 a conversation about the police
1:26:03 accountability
1:26:04 um plan we had committed to coming back
1:26:08 obviously each quarter uh one of the
1:26:10 aspects as we were in the budget process
1:26:12 while we were in the process of
1:26:14 developing this plan we committed to
1:26:16 looking at several aspects of the police
1:26:19 operations one we talked about obviously
1:26:21 positions within the organization
1:26:23 uh two we also then talked about several
1:26:26 of the aspects of
1:26:28 equipment and then policies related to
1:26:30 discipline
1:26:31 training hiring etc overall tonight um
1:26:35 at the end of tonight's one of the
1:26:37 the asks from the council is to really
1:26:39 obtain
1:26:40 uh direction from city council on our
1:26:43 body camera
1:26:44 project or potential body camera project
1:26:46 in the 2022 budget
1:26:52 continue on um we're going to continue
1:26:54 on into the operations
1:26:55 and just confirming that you can see our
1:26:58 our staffing levels that we have
1:26:59 for the uh the current 2021
1:27:04 police department during the 2021 budget
1:27:06 process we were
1:27:07 authorized 36 sworn staff
1:27:11 12 corrections staff 12 dispatch staff
1:27:15 three and a half record staff and then
1:27:17 two administrative
1:27:19 staff currently we are one of our main
1:27:22 focuses
1:27:23 is truly the hiring and then retention
1:27:25 of our staff within the organization
1:27:28 to provide that quality of service for
1:27:30 the city that that is really one of our
1:27:32 focuses in this first
1:27:33 quarter we have been spending a
1:27:36 significant amount of time on
1:27:38 recruitment for
1:27:38 all positions and with partnering with
1:27:40 human resources we're continuing to work
1:27:43 on developing more
1:27:46 or additional staff to consider for
1:27:49 positions within our organization
1:27:51 i would like to highlight on our sworn
1:27:53 staff we did lose a few officers at the
1:27:55 beginning of the year who
1:27:56 had left to other organizations and
1:28:00 we have brought in one additional we do
1:28:02 have a few officers that are currently
1:28:04 in the background process
1:28:05 and we're hoping to be able to bring
1:28:06 them on board sooner than later
1:28:08 and additionally we're continually
1:28:10 keeping an eye on
1:28:12 the potential for individuals retiring
1:28:14 or or again leading to other
1:28:16 organizations
1:28:17 um so really the support the first focus
1:28:20 of the first quarter of
1:28:22 2021 is that hiring of staff to get our
1:28:25 staffing levels up to
1:28:27 a a good level
1:28:31 as one of the budget positions that we
1:28:33 discussed
1:28:34 during the budget process and monica had
1:28:37 spoke about as well
1:28:38 is the behavioral health coordinator
1:28:40 recruitment we're currently in that
1:28:41 process we're partnering with the human
1:28:43 services department
1:28:44 to to bring on our
1:28:48 next position for that embedded mental
1:28:50 health
1:28:52 coordinator to really work with our law
1:28:54 enforcement officers in response to
1:28:55 those in crisis to be
1:28:57 working with people in mental health but
1:28:58 also then also
1:29:00 follow up with some of the case
1:29:01 management and hopefully some of those
1:29:02 wrap around services
1:29:04 we're in the process of setting up
1:29:06 interviews uh hopefully within the next
1:29:08 couple of weeks and with the intent of
1:29:10 bringing that individual
1:29:12 on uh in hopefully in april
1:29:15 of course then we're going to be really
1:29:16 working hard to develop
1:29:18 that partnership and introduce that
1:29:20 individual
1:29:21 into the organization and into the
1:29:23 community and getting them connected
1:29:25 with all of our local resources
1:29:27 as well i think that's going to be a
1:29:29 good addition a good supplement to our
1:29:31 response to
1:29:32 some of these uh the issues that we are
1:29:34 seeing regarding mental health and
1:29:36 crisis within our community
1:29:41 as mentioned earlier some of one of the
1:29:43 another influence that we are
1:29:45 really keeping a close eye on is the
1:29:48 current legislative session
1:29:49 obviously it is concluding at the end of
1:29:51 april and there are several bills within
1:29:54 the legislative session that are going
1:29:56 to or could potentially
1:29:57 impact uh police operations we're
1:30:00 monitoring them
1:30:01 and as they uh once the legislative
1:30:04 session is done
1:30:05 we'll of course review those um several
1:30:07 of those
1:30:08 directly overlay our police
1:30:10 accountability plan action plan
1:30:12 such as oversight our use of force
1:30:15 training qualified immunity
1:30:18 complaints um independent investigations
1:30:21 those are all aspects um that we
1:30:23 have that we're evaluating over this
1:30:25 next long-term plan in the police
1:30:26 accountability plan
1:30:28 uh oversight is one that um could impact
1:30:31 the city on a budgetary
1:30:33 function uh currently that bill is
1:30:36 being evaluated to uh for a city to
1:30:40 fund an oversight board at a reasonable
1:30:43 level
1:30:43 so we're keeping a close eye on that one
1:30:45 as well i know there's a lot of work
1:30:47 within our community
1:30:48 and human services is going to talk a
1:30:50 little bit more about the
1:30:52 community equity commission a little bit
1:30:54 later but i think that there is an
1:30:56 opportunity for us
1:30:57 the work that we're doing currently that
1:30:59 may blend into that same oversight
1:31:02 conversation
1:31:04 training is another one that is focusing
1:31:08 de-escalation crisis intervention
1:31:10 tactics
1:31:11 as well for law enforcement and as we
1:31:15 get to the end of the legislative
1:31:16 session and we see what the final
1:31:18 resolution of all these competing
1:31:19 proposals are
1:31:20 regarding police reform then we'll have
1:31:23 a better idea of what we need to be
1:31:24 bringing forward
1:31:25 possibly for the 2022 budget
1:31:29 at that point once we have a chance to
1:31:31 evaluate that and
1:31:32 see what are the changes that are needed
1:31:34 going to be occurring
1:31:36 internally and what is the timeline of
1:31:38 expectation of implementation
1:31:40 um another one of the bills that um
1:31:42 towards the bottom of the slide the
1:31:43 independent investigations
1:31:45 i know that it's already been proposed
1:31:47 to council presented to council about
1:31:50 independent force investigation team
1:31:52 that has you know has already been
1:31:53 approved
1:31:54 we're going to continue to utilize that
1:31:57 on the
1:31:58 in the greater king county area in case
1:32:00 there is some sort of
1:32:01 a lethal use of force within um law
1:32:04 enforcement that will participate
1:32:06 the establishment of the independent
1:32:08 investigation at the state level could
1:32:09 impact
1:32:10 that as well um so again we're just
1:32:13 keeping a close eye and
1:32:14 some of our action plans or the police
1:32:17 accountability action plan
1:32:18 action items we're pressing pause on now
1:32:21 until
1:32:22 there is resolution at the legislative
1:32:25 level
1:32:26 because if there are some things that
1:32:27 are mandated by the state uh we
1:32:29 don't want to undo some of the aspects
1:32:32 that potentially could be
1:32:33 brought forward through this legislative
1:32:35 session um
1:32:36 interestingly enough uh one of the
1:32:38 cutoff dates was this last monday
1:32:40 and the duty to intervene was uh was
1:32:44 dropped
1:32:44 uh from that uh the list and um as well
1:32:48 as officer wellness those are two
1:32:50 aspects that uh have not moved forward
1:32:52 within the legislative session
1:32:54 just because something hasn't moved
1:32:56 forward in the legislative session
1:32:57 doesn't mean that it can't be
1:32:59 resurrected later in the in the process
1:33:01 due to
1:33:03 some last minute agreements or some
1:33:05 decisions
1:33:06 or some modifications to current bills
1:33:08 that are in process
1:33:12 how that relates to and again just kind
1:33:14 of want to follow up the influences on
1:33:16 our police accountability
1:33:17 i'll talk about the the bottom three
1:33:19 first and then
1:33:20 i would like to we're going to talk a
1:33:22 little bit more in depth about body
1:33:23 cameras because that's
1:33:24 really truly the um the main direction
1:33:26 that we're looking for
1:33:27 uh moving forward uh but discipline and
1:33:29 termination
1:33:30 uh that is one of our action steps
1:33:32 training programs and community
1:33:33 oversight or community board
1:33:35 again those are all just being evaluated
1:33:38 in legislative session
1:33:39 and we hope to have a little bit more
1:33:41 guidance in late april on those
1:33:44 um and we will provide that a better
1:33:46 update in may when we come back for the
1:33:49 next update on the action plan now the
1:33:52 the next aspect of it though that we
1:33:55 again we had a brief discussion last
1:33:57 during the as we led to the budget
1:33:59 process
1:34:00 is the current overlay for body cameras
1:34:05 as discussed last year we did not
1:34:09 present it in the budget process
1:34:10 currently we do not necessarily have a
1:34:12 plan for
1:34:13 implementation in 2021 nor
1:34:17 a firm direction towards
1:34:21 providing information in the 2022 budget
1:34:23 regarding body cameras
1:34:25 um i would like to introduce
1:34:28 one of our newest commanders commander
1:34:30 lauren truscott
1:34:32 she joined us about a month ago and she
1:34:35 has had experience with implementation
1:34:37 of body camera programs
1:34:39 and she can provide a little bit more
1:34:40 details about uh the body cams and again
1:34:43 we have only did like an initial
1:34:46 review of the programs and did not do a
1:34:49 in-depth
1:34:50 process into it because we wanted to
1:34:52 have this conversation with council
1:34:54 commander truska thank you
1:35:08 in january and i come with
1:35:16 lauren this is kissa we're having some
1:35:18 trouble hearing you
1:35:20 you're kind of going in and out and your
1:35:22 voice is very faint
1:35:24 okay perhaps
1:35:28 it's a it's a little bit better okay
1:35:32 let me check my settings i know we
1:35:33 tested with yesterday
1:35:40 sorry
1:35:48 as commander truscott is uh you know uh
1:35:50 trying to get her
1:35:51 uh audio uh back um i'll briefly
1:35:54 talk about our body camera program in
1:35:57 the id we had provided information to
1:36:00 counsel
1:36:01 related to body cameras first and
1:36:03 foremost body cameras are
1:36:05 truly implemented within an organization
1:36:08 for transparency and accountability
1:36:10 within an organization
1:36:12 uh agencies across the the state or
1:36:14 across the country have implemented them
1:36:16 to provide
1:36:17 uh kind of a unbiased view of
1:36:20 interactions that police have with
1:36:22 community members
1:36:23 and the intent of the body cameras and
1:36:26 then again
1:36:26 is to record those interactions and they
1:36:28 could be used obviously
1:36:30 in uh case investigations they could be
1:36:33 also utilized
1:36:34 in uh any sort of complaints about
1:36:36 police actions
1:36:38 and it's it's truly it provides just a
1:36:41 um an insight into those interactions
1:36:44 right trust god how are you doing so far
1:36:55 don't you keep going yeah okay
1:36:58 okay um we'll keep going here on this um
1:37:01 overall cost and again from the initial
1:37:05 just brief overview of the commander
1:37:08 of the camera programs we're looking at
1:37:11 an initial
1:37:12 and ongoing cost of a little over uh 250
1:37:15 to 275
1:37:16 000 per year this is based on
1:37:19 a couple of factors on of course the
1:37:22 ftes to manage the data
1:37:24 and to manage the public records and
1:37:27 redaction of the videos
1:37:28 and then of course it there is a ongoing
1:37:31 cost for the equipment and
1:37:33 the data storage as well as software
1:37:36 that helps support
1:37:37 the data redaction we've
1:37:40 we estimated around two to two and a
1:37:42 half ftes to manage those programs
1:37:45 and really what we've as part of the
1:37:47 conversation of
1:37:48 where the workload lands uh the reason
1:37:51 why we're at
1:37:52 that two to two and a half ftes is is
1:37:55 we're really trying to take the work out
1:37:57 of the
1:37:57 officers hands to free them up to really
1:38:00 to address
1:38:00 some of the community issues that we
1:38:02 have and to utilize some of the civilian
1:38:04 staff to manage that data on an
1:38:06 ongoing basis so again it's usually it's
1:38:09 based off of
1:38:12 around 50 to 75 000 is for the
1:38:15 equipment or the uh the cameras the data
1:38:18 storage and some of the
1:38:19 software also included in some of the
1:38:22 costs to consider on that
1:38:23 is associated with maybe costs
1:38:26 associated with court or
1:38:27 with prosecution for managing that new
1:38:30 type of
1:38:31 of data as well and then again it's just
1:38:34 mostly the ongoing
1:38:35 costs for fte of course there's ongoing
1:38:37 training issues
1:38:39 as well some of the aspects that we have
1:38:42 regarding
1:38:42 the body cameras and for considerations
1:38:45 for timing
1:38:47 truly kind of relate back to the
1:38:49 community board and this community
1:38:50 equity commission
1:38:52 we see that this is a public
1:38:53 conversation with body cameras and the
1:38:55 implementation and the use
1:38:57 is something that's really important to
1:38:58 involve the people those of the
1:39:00 community or the community equity
1:39:01 commission
1:39:02 and we recognize that they are although
1:39:05 is being formed we see that as an
1:39:07 opportunity to connect with our
1:39:09 community stakeholders in that
1:39:10 development and implementation as well
1:39:18 commander truscott if you want you can
1:39:20 come over here and um to my office and
1:39:22 to follow up on this
1:39:29 i will i will pause as we're trying to
1:39:31 manage through um
1:39:33 technical difficulties and uh if there's
1:39:35 any questions then we will uh
1:39:38 i will gladly start to try and field
1:39:39 those
1:39:41 all right do we have any questions from
1:39:42 the council
1:39:48 uh councilmember mart oh whoops i am
1:39:51 very very sorry councilmember walsh and
1:39:53 then council member march
1:39:55 thank you this is councilman rosh i just
1:39:57 got in there just
1:39:58 second before you
1:40:02 um so
1:40:05 oh good we've got somebody else coming
1:40:08 joining fantastic um
1:40:12 so i know that public records
1:40:16 um is one of those areas that we
1:40:19 consistently see quite a bit of cost
1:40:21 from um
1:40:22 and that is something that we have to
1:40:26 respond to and so
1:40:28 i'm wondering how if you were to try and
1:40:31 kind of
1:40:32 talk about the scale of this problem for
1:40:35 redacting videos and
1:40:36 responding to public records requests
1:40:40 body cameras versus the other things
1:40:43 that we're
1:40:43 mandated to do on a regular basis both
1:40:46 in police
1:40:47 and perhaps i don't know if the
1:40:49 information can be related
1:40:51 to the other things that we do on the
1:40:52 city level i'm just trying to get a
1:40:54 sense of scale
1:40:55 for this type of a program versus what
1:40:57 we already do
1:41:00 sure um can you guys hear me now okay
1:41:03 thank you uh my apologies for that i
1:41:06 don't know what happened
1:41:06 um so in relation or in regards to
1:41:10 redaction time
1:41:11 and effort put into it uh if we get a
1:41:15 a request for a report public disclosure
1:41:18 request
1:41:19 uh a records employee will get that
1:41:22 request
1:41:22 redact the necessary information on the
1:41:24 report
1:41:26 um with you know time and effort goes
1:41:29 into it um
1:41:30 as opposed to a video uh request
1:41:34 it could be a video that could be five
1:41:36 minutes or five
1:41:37 hours uh somebody
1:41:40 the employee a records employee has to
1:41:42 go by those video go through those
1:41:43 videos frame by frame
1:41:46 and re-adapt every identifying feature
1:41:49 facial features addresses phone numbers
1:41:53 driver's license license plates
1:41:55 and so uh based on a 2017
1:41:58 um study done by one of the
1:42:02 record supervisors at my former agency
1:42:05 it takes about
1:42:06 10 minutes for an employee to redact one
1:42:09 minute of body worn camera video
1:42:12 to make it available for uh public
1:42:14 disclosure requests
1:42:15 or for discovery in court
1:42:20 does that answer your question i think
1:42:22 that gives me a sense of
1:42:24 what what it would take for
1:42:28 um videos but i'm still having a hard
1:42:32 relating that to what we already do so
1:42:34 getting a sense of
1:42:36 is this two times as much five times as
1:42:39 much etc
1:42:41 i'll i'll jump in on this one as well um
1:42:44 it would be
1:42:46 it depends um depends on how we set our
1:42:48 policies
1:42:49 moving forward on uh what is recorded
1:42:52 what the retention is on the
1:42:54 on the recordings so a lot of agencies
1:42:57 turn on cameras from the beginning of
1:43:00 the shift to the end of the shift our
1:43:01 officers work a 12-hour shift
1:43:03 they're going to come into contact with
1:43:04 people just by happenstance just to
1:43:06 somebody walking down the street versus
1:43:08 a traffic stop
1:43:09 or investigating a case a case
1:43:13 as a result the
1:43:17 what agencies have seen is i'll just say
1:43:20 a comparison
1:43:22 a case report for regarding a um a
1:43:25 domestic
1:43:26 um violence incident at a residence
1:43:29 we will remove names dates of birth
1:43:31 addresses
1:43:33 of those involved and that is
1:43:36 pretty quick you can scan through the
1:43:38 case report utilize our programming to
1:43:41 to remove it and we're talking about
1:43:44 um a handful of um you know
1:43:47 maybe 10 minutes if there if it's a very
1:43:50 basic
1:43:51 type of case report depending upon who
1:43:53 asks for the information as well
1:43:55 because if a defense attorney is asking
1:43:58 for it then that will be
1:43:59 a different version as opposed to just a
1:44:01 public individual asking
1:44:02 about um you know an incident involving
1:44:06 a residence
1:44:08 as a video that of course then we're
1:44:10 talking about
1:44:11 all of the time led up to again the
1:44:13 frame by frame so we're talking about
1:44:15 a maybe a 10 minute difference versus if
1:44:17 it has domestic violence you're going to
1:44:18 have multiple officers
1:44:20 that respond so you're gonna have
1:44:21 multiple cameras three
1:44:23 possibly three or four cameras involved
1:44:25 with the video and audio
1:44:27 from the time that they are in route
1:44:29 when they maybe receive like
1:44:30 the audio um the dispatch um through
1:44:34 the whole case investigation plus the
1:44:35 witnesses the time that's on scene for
1:44:38 an officer for domestic violence could
1:44:40 be anywhere from
1:44:41 uh 45 minutes to an hour and a half so
1:44:44 the scale
1:44:44 of the difference from one incident of
1:44:46 just getting the case report to that
1:44:48 video
1:44:49 is significant i mean you know i would
1:44:53 um you know easily 10 times you know
1:44:55 like the amount of time
1:44:56 spent on a video for that then as
1:44:58 opposed to just the case report where
1:45:00 you're just you know you're redacting
1:45:01 names and
1:45:02 um identifying information from a typed
1:45:06 document versus the video what we expect
1:45:10 again depends upon the policy that we
1:45:12 put in place for
1:45:13 retention of those type of things but
1:45:15 all cases
1:45:16 um criminal cases then of course those
1:45:18 are going to be saved
1:45:19 and then the requests they will come in
1:45:21 for those as well
1:45:25 okay thank
1:45:29 see you because my remarks you're next
1:45:32 thank you councilmember d michelle uh
1:45:34 kind of a multi-part question
1:45:36 uh are there any cities in western
1:45:40 washington
1:45:41 other than seattle and tacoma that use
1:45:43 body cameras
1:45:48 i don't know of all of them i can tell
1:45:50 you off the top of my head
1:45:52 tacoma just recently implemented a body
1:45:54 worn camera program
1:45:56 kent police department everett
1:46:01 um normandy park
1:46:04 um those are those are the main
1:46:08 those are some of the some of the
1:46:09 instances around king county that are
1:46:12 utilizing them and it's a range of
1:46:14 mandatory versus voluntary
1:46:15 uh compliance as well okay
1:46:19 uh and then the second question would be
1:46:23 um do we have an idea of what the costs
1:46:27 are uh seattle's been doing it longer
1:46:31 any of these other cities right do you
1:46:33 have an idea of what their
1:46:35 costs are in terms of you know what what
1:46:38 you're saying is it's basically
1:46:40 it's about a ten to one ratio of sworn
1:46:42 officers
1:46:43 to uh staff to do redacting
1:46:47 do we know how that compares to seattle
1:46:49 as a metric
1:46:54 uh we have not done deep enough into see
1:46:57 what the comparisons are
1:46:59 okay but i would say the redaction
1:47:01 requirements would be pretty similar
1:47:03 because of the washington state public
1:47:06 disclosure laws
1:47:08 all right thank you and
1:47:11 if i can add to that one of the
1:47:13 challenges that we know that seattle has
1:47:15 faced
1:47:15 is um delay in releasing
1:47:19 those videos or or getting that
1:47:22 information out from those public
1:47:23 disclosures has actually created quite a
1:47:25 bit of litigation
1:47:27 in the city of seattle and we know that
1:47:30 they have a certain amount of staff
1:47:31 working on the on this
1:47:32 however to keep up with the volume
1:47:36 they've had they've struggled with that
1:47:37 which is then created a lot of
1:47:38 litigation
1:47:39 for access to these for these videos so
1:47:42 setting it up
1:47:43 right from the beginning to avoid that
1:47:45 and to avoid that delay because
1:47:47 there's a change in community
1:47:49 expectation when there's a there's an
1:47:50 incident
1:47:51 how quickly it can be turned around and
1:47:53 and um
1:47:55 you know some of the the lessons learned
1:47:57 is is that
1:47:58 you have to be able to have the staff to
1:47:59 be able to do it right from the
1:48:01 beginning
1:48:03 thank you
1:48:07 are there any additional questions from
1:48:09 council i
1:48:10 i do have a question but i will refer to
1:48:13 my fellow council members first
1:48:14 council member ray i'm not sure if this
1:48:18 is a question or a comment but i think i
1:48:19 can probably frame it as a question
1:48:22 um so it occurs to me i saw something
1:48:25 um not that many months ago
1:48:28 um related to facial recognition and
1:48:31 auto redaction
1:48:32 of video and so i know when seattle
1:48:35 looked at this
1:48:36 in uh um
1:48:40 as commander truscott said in 2017
1:48:44 it was fairly prohibited in terms of
1:48:46 cost but also i think that this is
1:48:48 technology that's that has moved really
1:48:50 really really quickly so um i guess my
1:48:53 question is
1:48:54 would it be possible to do a market scan
1:48:57 and see what's available
1:48:58 on the market right now for auto
1:49:00 redaction
1:49:02 i don't want to move forward with a
1:49:06 highly labor intensive redaction process
1:49:09 but i would be interested in seeing if
1:49:10 there was
1:49:12 some more um automated
1:49:16 approach to it that's come on the market
1:49:17 in the last couple years
1:49:20 yeah so there is software that is
1:49:22 available for auto redaction
1:49:25 um that might come with whatever soft
1:49:28 body camera program that you purchase or
1:49:30 you could purchase it separately
1:49:32 the uh lessons learned or the problems
1:49:35 that come with the
1:49:36 automatic redaction software is that you
1:49:39 still need a human
1:49:41 on one end of it to do a quality
1:49:43 assurance check
1:49:45 because if an agency releases one frame
1:49:49 that divulges somebody's identity or a
1:49:52 license plate
1:49:53 or an address inadvertently that's a
1:49:56 large liability so
1:50:00 seattle was not uh
1:50:03 pleased with the quality of the
1:50:04 redaction at that time it has improved
1:50:08 um the software that's available has
1:50:10 improved
1:50:11 uh but uh my recommendation and i think
1:50:15 best practices would still be
1:50:17 to have a human go through and do
1:50:20 the quality assurance
1:50:24 and if i can add to that well one of the
1:50:26 aspects that there is a concern is when
1:50:28 you start talking about facial
1:50:29 recognition
1:50:30 um and what how is that data stored and
1:50:33 if you're talking
1:50:34 i mean yes you can maybe implant an
1:50:35 image but then there's always a
1:50:37 community conversation further about
1:50:39 when you use that term facial
1:50:40 recognition so we'd want to have a
1:50:42 a really robust conversation uh with the
1:50:45 community of understanding about that
1:50:47 yeah amen chief um
1:50:51 it's just this but you know this is an
1:50:53 evolving uh
1:50:54 um area and and so you know it may not
1:50:58 be a question of not today but when
1:51:00 um but there's i think we just need to
1:51:01 be um looking
1:51:03 at the the upside potential of having
1:51:06 the data
1:51:07 and that point of view versus the cost
1:51:10 of maintaining it in
1:51:12 in any subsequent liability and when we
1:51:14 we cross the threshold where
1:51:16 it becomes more valuable than it is uh
1:51:18 expensive then we need to consider it
1:51:20 and while it's still in the area maybe
1:51:22 being more expensive than valuable
1:51:24 then we we continue to study it that's
1:51:26 that's my uh
1:51:28 my ask
1:51:33 all right any other further questions
1:51:38 so um cheaper realm you heard my concern
1:51:41 earlier about um those moments in
1:51:45 people's lives when a police officer
1:51:47 shows
1:51:48 up it may not involve any criminal
1:51:51 behavior whatsoever
1:51:53 uh and i'm just going to give a an
1:51:55 example
1:51:56 an elderly woman walking around
1:52:00 in downtown issaquah and can't remember
1:52:03 how to get home
1:52:05 uh the police were called and uh
1:52:08 escorted her were able to find out where
1:52:10 she lived
1:52:11 and escorted her home with that kind of
1:52:14 an interaction
1:52:15 would you keep the video uh because it
1:52:18 didn't involve
1:52:18 any criminality whatsoever is it beca if
1:52:22 a police interaction do you have to
1:52:24 automatically keep it
1:52:26 or do you would you remove something
1:52:27 like that or
1:52:29 you know is something that minor but
1:52:32 personal
1:52:34 going to be a part of the record forever
1:52:36 because
1:52:37 it was on a police camera
1:52:40 that is a that that's a great question
1:52:43 there's a few
1:52:44 answers to that um there is a policy
1:52:46 decision behind
1:52:47 retention of police interactions and
1:52:49 then commander truscott would like to
1:52:51 add something else into that
1:52:52 um yeah and it is it's kind of a
1:52:56 bigger question further down the road of
1:52:58 policy decisions of what interactions
1:53:01 you do and don't record
1:53:03 retention laws will be based upon what
1:53:05 that event is related to
1:53:07 or retention policies um but
1:53:11 i think best practice is if you record
1:53:14 an event there is some kind of retention
1:53:16 um because it's protection of the agency
1:53:20 the officer and the community member if
1:53:22 that community member comes back and
1:53:24 wants to file a complaint and then the
1:53:27 police department says oh we don't have
1:53:29 the video anymore
1:53:30 or make some you know make some type of
1:53:32 allegation um
1:53:33 so but that i think that's a policy
1:53:36 question that is very valid
1:53:38 and would be discussed further down the
1:53:40 road with the implementation of the
1:53:42 program
1:53:44 and say and you know
1:53:47 as part of that um it is it's that
1:53:49 transparency in the public trust because
1:53:52 well what we are very cognizant of is
1:53:54 once you start
1:53:56 storing that data there is a community
1:53:59 expectation that
1:54:00 you are not arbitrarily deleting data
1:54:04 and there's people who are going to say
1:54:06 well we'd like to have access to
1:54:08 it what are you trying to hide why don't
1:54:09 you have it and so
1:54:11 it is that's why we need to again this
1:54:13 is like a larger
1:54:14 you know policy decision on retention
1:54:16 and then there's a lot of education that
1:54:18 goes into
1:54:19 you know into this as well in the
1:54:20 community
1:54:22 thank you very much thank you are there
1:54:25 any further questions
1:54:28 i know we have a comment but um and i've
1:54:32 seen the clerk has said that there are
1:54:33 still no members of public
1:54:35 on the call at this time for public
1:54:37 comments so
1:54:39 uh i think that we could move ahead to
1:54:41 comments
1:54:42 and council member marks has a comment
1:54:46 thank you councilmember d michelle uh
1:54:49 yeah it's really
1:54:50 it's interesting to me i have really
1:54:52 heard
1:54:53 civil rights passions in the community
1:54:56 on both sides
1:54:57 of the body cam issue um
1:55:00 i was somewhat surprised in talking to
1:55:03 people at the blm protests
1:55:05 this summer that there were i would have
1:55:08 expected
1:55:09 that it was sort of unanimity in wanting
1:55:11 to have body cameras and i didn't hear
1:55:14 so i i very much understand and support
1:55:17 the idea
1:55:18 of putting this before an equity
1:55:20 commission
1:55:21 i do think it's important to at least
1:55:23 move forward with that conversation
1:55:25 um i think that um you know i sort of uh
1:55:30 uh i don't i it's expensive
1:55:33 but if it's the right thing to do and if
1:55:35 it improves public safety
1:55:37 uh then we should do it um but
1:55:40 but we should form it out of the
1:55:42 community because
1:55:43 if there are um the public
1:55:47 like i said it surprised me uh the
1:55:48 reaction in the community
1:55:50 uh to the idea of these cameras being
1:55:52 out um and in the public
1:55:54 um i would say you know i personally
1:55:56 would be very interested
1:55:58 um assuming the equity commission
1:56:02 wants to move forward in some way or the
1:56:04 other i'd be very very interested
1:56:06 to see some of these case studies of
1:56:08 kent and everett and normandy park
1:56:10 and i realized some of them are quite
1:56:12 new but what could we learn
1:56:14 from their implementations uh if
1:56:17 if we want to consider this and if
1:56:20 something is brought before the council
1:56:21 for consideration
1:56:22 i would hope that we could we could get
1:56:25 some information on those locations
1:56:28 now i am super disappointed to hear that
1:56:31 we are down
1:56:32 two sworn officers from where we were
1:56:34 january 1st
1:56:35 this is exactly what i was worried about
1:56:39 last fall when we cut
1:56:40 five officers out of the budget for 2021
1:56:44 and at the time i was assured
1:56:46 by the administration that we were going
1:56:48 to figure out how to keep the number of
1:56:50 sworn officers
1:56:51 at the same level now we're down to
1:56:54 and i realize we're trying to fill those
1:56:57 positions
1:56:58 but you know we always talked about um
1:57:01 you have more
1:57:01 wrecks than you have positions that you
1:57:03 need so that you don't get behind
1:57:06 and now the exact thing that
1:57:09 i said i was concerned about when we
1:57:11 approved this budget
1:57:12 the exact thing has happened so
1:57:16 i would hope that we as a council
1:57:19 will have a conversation about what the
1:57:22 right budgetary staffing level should be
1:57:24 for the ipd i said when i supported this
1:57:27 budget
1:57:28 that you know i don't want to wait for
1:57:30 the 2022 budget
1:57:32 to potentially make corrections uh it is
1:57:34 important i think
1:57:36 what i heard from everybody this summer
1:57:40 uh was that you know you do need
1:57:43 uniformed officers there
1:57:44 are uh there are questions about what
1:57:47 policy should be and what training
1:57:48 should be and what
1:57:50 uh you know responses to bad officers
1:57:53 should be and all that kind of stuff but
1:57:55 it all starts with having enough
1:57:56 officers on the street uh to support
1:57:59 public safety in our community so i am
1:58:01 i just cannot say how disappointed i am
1:58:03 to see that the exact thing that i was
1:58:05 worried about from six months ago
1:58:07 has now come to pass thank you
1:58:11 thank you councilman goodman uh thank
1:58:14 so i um if there is a
1:58:17 uh something that the council can do to
1:58:20 help with the
1:58:22 staffing situation and then i would like
1:58:24 to have another conversation about that
1:58:26 and we reserved some money specifically
1:58:29 for uh that type of reason and it was
1:58:33 specifically
1:58:35 talked about at budget we had a reserve
1:58:37 for that so if we need to have that
1:58:38 conversation
1:58:39 we need to have that conversation we
1:58:41 have heard about the
1:58:43 uptick in crime i realize we have a
1:58:45 pandemic
1:58:46 but can't blame everything on pandemic
1:58:50 can't ignore things just because of a
1:58:51 pandemic
1:58:53 the i think the questions tonight we
1:58:56 have about whether to gather additional
1:58:57 information needed
1:58:58 to include a police body camera program
1:59:01 in the 2022 budget process
1:59:04 um my uh
1:59:07 personal view is i have not heard um
1:59:11 enough of an um an upswell from the um
1:59:16 the broader community from to justify
1:59:20 uh thinking about something for 2022
1:59:24 we have a lot of big fish to fry so to
1:59:27 speak coming out of a pandemic and a lot
1:59:29 of uncertainty
1:59:30 and i think we have um more important
1:59:34 priorities
1:59:35 um than that um that but that's
1:59:38 that's my thought for 2022. i don't
1:59:40 think we should be putting a bunch of
1:59:41 time and resources
1:59:43 into trying to figure out whether we
1:59:44 want to do something in 2022.
1:59:46 thank you thank you city administrator
1:59:50 uh bob kulitz has a comment
1:59:53 yes thank you councilmember d michelle
1:59:55 members of the council i want to talk a
1:59:57 little bit about the police hiring and
1:59:58 i'm sure chief your bomb will
2:00:00 supplement these comments uh we are
2:00:03 doing exactly as we promised
2:00:05 uh during the budget process uh the
2:00:07 chief police has a free hand
2:00:09 to continue hiring to the greatest
2:00:12 extent possible
2:00:13 what we are seeing however not only in
2:00:15 the in the greater seattle area but also
2:00:17 throughout the country
2:00:19 is a tremendous amount of change in the
2:00:21 policing profession
2:00:23 we are seeing officers leaving
2:00:26 the department to go to other agencies
2:00:28 we are seeing officers leaving the
2:00:30 department
2:00:30 to get out of law enforcement the what
2:00:34 has happened in the world over the last
2:00:35 eight months has had a profound impact
2:00:38 on law enforcement not only in this area
2:00:40 but around the country
2:00:41 so we are working diligently uh to bring
2:00:45 officers here the chief has a free hand
2:00:48 to hire he once he fills
2:00:51 the number of vacancies we have he has
2:00:53 authority to overhire
2:00:55 but we are faced with a very fluid uh
2:00:58 marketplace
2:00:59 right now there are officers moving all
2:01:02 around
2:01:03 manager scott says she's from another
2:01:06 agency but i don't know that it's any
2:01:07 great secret that she comes to us from
2:01:09 the seattle police department
2:01:11 and we have had lots of interest among
2:01:12 seattle police officers
2:01:14 to come work in his claw similarly we've
2:01:16 seen a number of
2:01:18 officers leave we had not expected who
2:01:20 were going uh to other agencies in the
2:01:22 region we've had
2:01:23 one officer leave to become a
2:01:24 firefighter uh we've had one officer and
2:01:27 i think at least one officer leave the
2:01:29 uh to go back uh to a family
2:01:32 in another area so there's a lot of
2:01:35 things happening but i want to assure
2:01:36 the council
2:01:37 that the chief has a full authority to
2:01:40 hire as quickly as possible
2:01:41 i see stephanie johnson turn her camera
2:01:43 on as well uh
2:01:45 there's a lot of work happening in our
2:01:49 group it takes a little bit of time to
2:01:50 hire police officers but we're doing it
2:01:52 as expeditiously as we can chief
2:01:55 bierbaum i don't know if you want to add
2:01:56 to any of those comments you know you
2:02:00 hit on the highlights we have been doing
2:02:01 continuous hiring processes and
2:02:04 and we have discussed with the council
2:02:05 before it does take time
2:02:07 and energy to to bring them on board and
2:02:08 get them up and running and trained as
2:02:11 but yes we are in the process of of
2:02:14 backgrounds on several officers
2:02:16 that's truly what is our priority that
2:02:18 is what we're putting a lot of our
2:02:19 energy into is
2:02:20 is working on staffing that has been our
2:02:22 focus and will continue to be our focus
2:02:24 uh until we get full staff and then some
2:02:28 um we recognize that that is an ongoing
2:02:30 piece it's not just that the hiring but
2:02:32 it's also the retention
2:02:33 so what are the things that we can do as
2:02:34 an organization to to retain
2:02:36 officers in you know in our community
2:02:38 and in the profession so
2:02:40 it is an ongoing uh uh we're spending a
2:02:43 lot of a lot of time and energy on this
2:02:45 because we recognize that that is our
2:02:46 priority
2:02:50 director johnson did you want to speak
2:02:53 you know i really um i i think city
2:02:56 administrator bob quits and chief
2:02:57 bierbaum summarized it well
2:02:59 we do have processes in place to focus
2:03:02 on both entry and lateral recruitment
2:03:05 um we are doing you know interviews um
2:03:08 really kind of monthly right now and at
2:03:11 this time
2:03:12 we look at our neighboring jurisdictions
2:03:15 for best practice
2:03:16 and how we can attract and retain those
2:03:18 candidates so i think it was summarized
2:03:21 thank you thank you um
2:03:25 councilmember martz your turn
2:03:28 thank you um so
2:03:32 in hiring that i do the more open wrecks
2:03:35 i have
2:03:36 the more qualified candidates i can
2:03:38 consider at any given time
2:03:40 and if a certain fraction of those
2:03:43 candidates choose not to come here
2:03:46 or to my company uh
2:03:49 i still have a a better pipeline and
2:03:52 a better number of onboarding if i have
2:03:54 more wrecks so
2:03:56 i get that uh there have been
2:03:59 uh the ability to do hiring but it's
2:04:02 it's also
2:04:02 true that number of racks affects uh
2:04:05 affects pipeline
2:04:06 and i know that uh uh uh
2:04:09 otherwise otherwise what did it mean
2:04:12 that we cut
2:04:13 five positions out of the budget last
2:04:15 year right because if we said that we
2:04:17 were going to keep the same number
2:04:19 of uniformed officers but we cut open
2:04:22 racks
2:04:23 it wouldn't have had it wouldn't have
2:04:24 had any impact right if we were just
2:04:26 gonna
2:04:27 keep that at uh at the number of open
2:04:30 racks so
2:04:34 would like and i have requested
2:04:35 additional information
2:04:37 from the chief and student city
2:04:39 administrator
2:04:41 about this thank you thank you
2:04:45 city administrator bob kowitz
2:04:48 again let me just reemphasize that we
2:04:51 are in a continuous hiring process
2:04:53 that there are as as qualified
2:04:56 applicants
2:04:57 are identified they're selected they go
2:05:00 through the appropriate backgrounding
2:05:01 processes and they're hired
2:05:03 so there is no limitation to that at
2:05:05 this point we will continue to hire
2:05:08 every qualified candidate that we
2:05:10 identify
2:05:13 thank you are there any other comments
2:05:16 before we close this out
2:05:21 all right i i did want to weigh in um
2:05:25 i would like to say that i agree that we
2:05:27 should wait on bobby
2:05:28 body cameras for police i'm in agreement
2:05:30 with councilmember goodman i haven't
2:05:32 heard or seen a great upwelling of
2:05:36 community
2:05:36 interest in this topic i have talked
2:05:39 with officers who would welcome cameras
2:05:41 to protect them from false allegations
2:05:44 so i have heard those voices however i
2:05:47 believe the costs of storage and
2:05:48 management are prohibitive
2:05:50 and plus i will again reiterate my
2:05:53 concern about the privacy of people who
2:05:54 are caught
2:05:56 in non-criminal situations um and
2:06:00 how we store and manage those uh
2:06:03 videotapes is a great concern to me
2:06:06 so at this time i think we should wait
2:06:08 and see before acting
2:06:11 um are we prepared to go on to the next
2:06:14 item then
2:06:16 okay um
2:06:19 the next item is id 0845
2:06:22 school resource officer councilmember d
2:06:24 michelle of council member hall i
2:06:26 believe has a comment
2:06:27 oh sorry sorry i missed you casper hall
2:06:30 go ahead
2:06:31 no that was it's not your fault i snuck
2:06:33 it in at the very last minute too
2:06:35 uh this is councilmember hall i just
2:06:36 wanted to say for the sake of
2:06:39 um direction i would be very
2:06:41 disappointed if
2:06:43 this topic drops off our radar even if
2:06:45 we're not
2:06:46 considering it for next year's budget i
2:06:49 think we did hear it
2:06:51 from many members of the community
2:06:53 whether or not that's
2:06:56 the majority of the community needs to
2:06:57 be investigated in my opinion
2:06:59 so i think the idea of bringing it to a
2:07:01 potential new
2:07:04 city commission on equity sounds like a
2:07:05 great idea if it's
2:07:07 if there isn't something like that that
2:07:09 um comes to fruition
2:07:11 um an existing border commission or a
2:07:13 even a
2:07:14 a larger community convening like we did
2:07:16 like the human services commission
2:07:18 convened
2:07:19 um in the previous months that
2:07:22 sounds good too but i think we have some
2:07:24 more work to do
2:07:26 to better identify whether or not this
2:07:30 remains a community priority i'm not
2:07:32 willing to write it off quite yet and
2:07:34 i'm not necessarily saying
2:07:35 either that other council members are
2:07:37 saying that i just want to make sure
2:07:38 that i'm clear on that
2:07:40 thanks thank you
2:07:43 anyone else
2:07:47 now or never all right
2:07:50 uh let's go on to
2:07:54 uh id 0845 school resource officers and
2:07:59 back to
2:07:59 chief bierbaum
2:08:03 all right permit me to try to get my
2:08:06 technology to work appropriately
2:08:09 see if i can do this correctly this time
2:08:16 okay we are now on
2:08:19 and now i can officially remove my mask
2:08:21 now that commander truscott has
2:08:23 left as well uh we are now on to discuss
2:08:26 uh school resource officers as part of
2:08:28 the police accountability action plan uh
2:08:31 in november
2:08:32 we discuss school resource officers and
2:08:34 the conversation or the interest from
2:08:36 the council was
2:08:37 to to have further discussion
2:08:41 in preparation for the expiration of the
2:08:43 current mou
2:08:44 that exists between the city of issaquah
2:08:47 and the issaquah school district
2:08:49 uh just for history the school resource
2:08:52 officer program was started in
2:08:54 2000 uh in an agreement between the
2:08:57 school district and the city of issaquah
2:08:58 to provide police services within the
2:09:00 schools
2:09:01 primarily within israel high school and
2:09:03 issaquah middle school
2:09:05 and uh since then we have revisited that
2:09:07 contract approximately every five years
2:09:09 and again we're due for um a
2:09:12 conversation about the mou
2:09:14 in on june 30th as part of
2:09:18 the today's conversation is really to
2:09:22 input from city council on next steps
2:09:26 engagement regarding our school resource
2:09:28 officers
2:09:30 again the school resource officers was
2:09:32 started in 2000
2:09:34 and uh the first school resource officer
2:09:36 that actually worked with musical high
2:09:37 school was
2:09:38 myself i had the opportunity to provide
2:09:40 that service for the city of izakawa
2:09:42 um and entering into the kind of the
2:09:45 daily operations within the schools
2:09:48 working at the schools and working with
2:09:50 the students and working
2:09:52 with the parents and staff as well
2:09:56 the role of a school resource officer is
2:09:58 to provide mentorship provide
2:10:00 education and of course perform
2:10:03 enforcement
2:10:03 aspects within the schools if needed
2:10:06 often school resource officers
2:10:08 do partner with the schools and have an
2:10:10 opportunity to get within the classroom
2:10:12 and teach or to help assist with
2:10:14 different classes and
2:10:15 interactions with law enforcement from
2:10:17 everything from like traffic services
2:10:19 to some of like the social services as
2:10:23 significant amount of training and again
2:10:25 we talked about this back in november
2:10:26 but as a as a refresher regarding school
2:10:29 resource officers
2:10:30 there is mandated training for school
2:10:32 resource officers that
2:10:33 are associated with of course uh
2:10:35 interacting with juveniles interacting
2:10:38 mental health issues social services
2:10:41 interacting with
2:10:44 bias as well or you know for
2:10:48 for different training aspects there is
2:10:50 a there's a significant amount of
2:10:51 training
2:10:52 as mandated by state law of how school
2:10:55 resources
2:10:56 school resource i apologize school
2:10:58 resource officers
2:10:59 are trained for that position um
2:11:04 put it in another context also within
2:11:07 the issaquah school district there are a
2:11:10 couple other entities providing law
2:11:11 enforcement services for
2:11:13 schools so obviously the city visit club
2:11:15 provides school resource officer
2:11:16 positions for
2:11:18 fiscal high school but then king county
2:11:20 sheriff's office provides
2:11:22 sros for sammamish skyline high school
2:11:25 up in sammamish
2:11:26 and then liberty high school outside of
2:11:28 the city as well
2:11:34 truly as as today's update is kind of to
2:11:37 talk about
2:11:38 next steps with school resource officers
2:11:40 we do understand
2:11:41 that earlier this month there was a
2:11:43 conversation between the school district
2:11:44 or a couple members from school district
2:11:47 school board council and city
2:11:49 administration
2:11:51 and there was a joint there was an
2:11:53 expression of a joint interest
2:11:55 interest in convening a community
2:11:57 meeting
2:11:58 and that to have a greater discussion
2:12:01 about the role
2:12:02 or the the interest in school resource
2:12:05 officers within
2:12:06 within the schools in the city of
2:12:08 issaquah
2:12:09 i think that's an opportunity to hear
2:12:11 from our community members
2:12:12 but one of the aspects that i also want
2:12:14 to bring up that we talked about back in
2:12:16 november
2:12:17 was involving the students themselves
2:12:19 and that was an
2:12:21 aspect that i think we need to make sure
2:12:23 that that is
2:12:24 included in any further discussions of
2:12:26 how school resource officers are
2:12:28 involved in the schools
2:12:29 or if we continue that program as well
2:12:32 again there's an interest of hosting
2:12:34 uh meeting originally that's our plan is
2:12:36 to try and convene a meeting with the
2:12:37 school district and
2:12:39 uh within our community uh potentially
2:12:42 in march early april to be able to come
2:12:45 back in may
2:12:46 at the next police accountability update
2:12:49 and then make a determination whether or
2:12:51 not we refresh the
2:12:53 memorandum of understanding with the
2:12:56 school district
2:12:57 that also provides us an opportunity to
2:12:58 take a look at how we do
2:13:00 our operations with the school resource
2:13:02 officer position and if there is any
2:13:04 adjustments to the program
2:13:05 that that may need to be done or could
2:13:08 be recommended
2:13:09 to maybe uh provide even
2:13:12 a better service to our community um
2:13:16 truly the the next steps on this is what
2:13:19 we're asking for
2:13:20 is what does council want to move with
2:13:22 on the school resource officer position
2:13:24 um the intent of um the position or ha
2:13:28 is there an interest on having that
2:13:30 community engagement
2:13:31 moving forward in these next couple of
2:13:33 months prior to coming back to
2:13:35 council in may to have a further
2:13:37 discussion on the police accountability
2:13:39 action plan and i will
2:13:42 pause for a moment on that thank you
2:13:46 let's start off with questions as
2:13:48 anybody have a question
2:13:55 all right um i'm not seeing anybody oh
2:13:59 councilmember uh council president hunt
2:14:02 first and then council member walsh
2:14:05 thank you this is council president hunt
2:14:08 um i had emailed in this question
2:14:10 but um the question is around the
2:14:12 changing nature of the work
2:14:14 of the sros and specifically
2:14:17 around digital or online
2:14:22 online interactions and police officer
2:14:25 involvement with
2:14:26 online interactions in schools and i i
2:14:29 wonder if you could speak to
2:14:31 how that's changed over time and and the
2:14:33 role of
2:14:34 sros in that but then also if there are
2:14:36 other
2:14:37 other things that communities do
2:14:41 to mitigate that differently or if there
2:14:43 are other models out there
2:14:44 around online harassment and the other
2:14:48 online social media type issues
2:14:51 thank you council president hunt um to
2:14:54 address that a little bit further
2:14:55 yes the the role in the sro what they
2:14:58 see what kind of crimes they see within
2:15:00 the schools has evolved over time when i
2:15:02 first was
2:15:02 sro uh we barely had cell phones uh so
2:15:05 yes the uh the online social media
2:15:08 interaction was maybe not at as great um
2:15:11 it evolved it's it's
2:15:12 same falls under harassment or bullying
2:15:15 and those are some of the aspects that's
2:15:16 just moved to that
2:15:18 online platform organizations have
2:15:21 focused on kind of a multi-pronged
2:15:23 approach where everything from
2:15:25 involving the um the school
2:15:28 community involving the students
2:15:30 themselves on their individual
2:15:31 accountability
2:15:32 focusing on working with parents to have
2:15:34 a better awareness and
2:15:36 involvement in their their uh students
2:15:39 online activities um working with the
2:15:41 schools to help amplify the
2:15:43 that message as well and of course um
2:15:45 the police department we're going to be
2:15:46 involved with if
2:15:48 if it rises to that level of of
2:15:49 criminality um
2:15:51 where it lies rises to that level of
2:15:53 criminality of course is some of the
2:15:55 ongoing harassment
2:15:56 um or uh like obviously racial
2:15:59 harassment or you know
2:16:01 some sort of um uh online
2:16:04 threats as well as what we see um or um
2:16:07 it also um sometimes goes into
2:16:09 um uh sexual content as well
2:16:12 and there's of course there's a a lot of
2:16:15 education that needs to go around of
2:16:17 images that
2:16:18 are shared as well so there are there's
2:16:20 that level of involvement with some of
2:16:22 technology with social media and you
2:16:24 know cell phones
2:16:26 as well a lot of the the same type of
2:16:28 investigations whether it's be it
2:16:30 theft or
2:16:33 or assault those are some of the same
2:16:35 types of investigations
2:16:37 what we have actually seen also an
2:16:39 increase of is interactions with
2:16:41 child protective services so cps is
2:16:43 another
2:16:44 aspect that our sros are deeply involved
2:16:48 um and we do get a lot of referrals
2:16:50 directly from
2:16:51 cps to check on the welfare of students
2:16:54 they know that that is an opportunity to
2:16:56 interact with the student
2:16:57 in kind of a more protective environment
2:17:00 rather than at the home
2:17:02 uh so there is um quite a bit of
2:17:04 involvement with
2:17:05 school resource officers in that as well
2:17:07 um obviously originally one of the
2:17:08 initial conversations in
2:17:10 2000 for the implementation of course
2:17:12 was drug involvement um we've seen the
2:17:15 you know kind of the the ups and downs
2:17:17 or the kind of the the rise and fall of
2:17:19 issues and alcohol issues within the
2:17:21 schools or within you know within that
2:17:22 the student population
2:17:24 uh that has kind of been there's ebb and
2:17:26 flow to that as well
2:17:28 uh it's it's it's going to continue to
2:17:29 evolve we've also seen
2:17:32 um fraud or you know identity theft
2:17:34 again kind of more along the lines of
2:17:36 that social
2:17:36 um media platform or the online
2:17:39 platforms so we're spending a lot of
2:17:41 following up on on those as well so it
2:17:44 does continue to evolve it will continue
2:17:46 to evolve
2:17:47 we have some very clever individuals who
2:17:50 find new ways to leverage uh technology
2:17:53 and so that's our sros are continually
2:17:56 involved in that as well
2:17:58 outside of the criminal aspects we do
2:18:00 continue to see the mental health
2:18:01 aspects
2:18:02 a lot of growth in that crisis
2:18:04 intervention um
2:18:05 that's always has been a role of anyone
2:18:07 that works within the schools whether
2:18:08 it's a teacher a council or a police
2:18:10 officer
2:18:11 there's a lot of involvement with
2:18:12 students on just helping them navigate
2:18:15 either the kind of like the social
2:18:16 services the human services aspect
2:18:18 whether it's mental health or crisis
2:18:20 or economic issues there's a lot of
2:18:23 things that
2:18:24 that we end up getting involved with
2:18:30 uh do you have any further questions
2:18:31 council president hutch
2:18:34 no thank you for that thank you uh
2:18:36 councilmember walsh
2:18:38 thank you i actually have three
2:18:40 questions so i'll take them in order
2:18:42 um i think you mentioned something about
2:18:44 the other high schools in
2:18:46 the squad school district liberty and
2:18:49 skyline
2:18:50 um do they have sros or
2:18:53 because i think you were saying that the
2:18:55 sro program that
2:18:57 we're talking about here is an officer
2:18:59 assigned to issaquah high school
2:19:01 who also serves some of the other local
2:19:03 schools
2:19:05 so what's the situation for the other
2:19:06 schools in the district
2:19:08 uh so sammamish police department which
2:19:11 is actually king county sheriff's office
2:19:13 provides
2:19:14 um an sro there's contracts with the
2:19:16 isoqua school district for
2:19:18 school resource officer services at
2:19:19 skyline high school and at liberty high
2:19:21 school
2:19:22 um so it goes through some average high
2:19:24 school but then also through king county
2:19:26 sheriff's office as well so yes they
2:19:28 have historically had
2:19:29 school resource officers working within
2:19:31 their schools okay
2:19:32 thank you um and i know our contract
2:19:36 has um a like we share costs
2:19:39 between the city and the school district
2:19:41 is that a
2:19:42 50 50 cost share or do you know what
2:19:45 that is
2:19:46 it is approximately the salary
2:19:50 um to try and steal the wording from the
2:19:52 the contract or the mou directly
2:19:54 the the the true salary of the sro
2:19:58 times 0.5 times um
2:20:01 10 12 so basically we pay half of
2:20:05 the school pays for half of the salary
2:20:07 of the officer for about 10 months of
2:20:08 the year
2:20:11 okay okay makes sense um and then
2:20:15 third question is um just
2:20:18 talking about the situation
2:20:22 of the officers when they're
2:20:25 in a school environment and with
2:20:28 minors and students are they carrying a
2:20:30 weapon into the school
2:20:33 historically police officers when they
2:20:35 are assigned to the school resource
2:20:36 officer position at least within
2:20:38 all the schools that within the musical
2:20:40 school district have carried weapons
2:20:42 they've worn uniforms
2:20:43 or variations of uniforms in the school
2:20:47 uh in the school environment so yes they
2:20:49 are carrying weapons on
2:20:51 just like a normal police officer on the
2:20:53 street typically does
2:20:55 okay thank you
2:21:01 uh councilwood remarks
2:21:06 thank you councilmember d michelle uh so
2:21:09 if if the administration is looking for
2:21:11 feedback
2:21:12 uh the sro program is
2:21:15 uh extremely important to
2:21:18 families with students at issaquah high
2:21:21 i got
2:21:21 a big dose of that a few years ago
2:21:25 when there were potential changes in the
2:21:27 sro and man oh man did i hear
2:21:30 from parents uh at issaquah high this is
2:21:33 considered an essential
2:21:35 position you know schools have changed
2:21:37 so much
2:21:38 since when i was in high school when i
2:21:40 was in high school you'd get
2:21:42 called out for fist fights and you'd
2:21:44 have to go fight guys
2:21:45 and that was just how it was and i went
2:21:47 to a nice high school in white bear lake
2:21:49 minnesota it's just
2:21:51 that's what you did and so the
2:21:53 environment what we
2:21:54 what we expect in terms of safety uh for
2:21:57 our students now
2:21:58 is thank goodness a lot higher than it
2:22:01 in the 1980s and i believe a non-trivial
2:22:05 fraction of that
2:22:06 is having sros and uh you know
2:22:10 creating an ongoing expectation of
2:22:13 safety
2:22:14 in our schools and so a boy boy do i
2:22:17 hear about that from parents
2:22:19 and am i glad that we're a part of that
2:22:21 and we have a
2:22:22 a great and highly professional police
2:22:25 force
2:22:26 and the fact that they can be involved
2:22:28 in helping keep our kids safe
2:22:30 uh is uh is just a a really good feature
2:22:34 of of having our own police force and
2:22:37 being able to make these decisions so i
2:22:39 i'm 100 on board for having an sro
2:22:43 thank you
2:22:54 a dollar for the jar council deputy
2:22:57 president ray
2:22:59 thank you council member d michelle this
2:23:01 is chris wright um oh i don't know i
2:23:04 guess about uh
2:23:05 three or four weeks ago the council
2:23:07 president i met with the school board
2:23:08 leadership and the superintendent of the
2:23:10 school board to talk about
2:23:12 um convening in this public meeting the
2:23:14 school board was very
2:23:15 supportive as was the superintendent of
2:23:17 getting together and doing
2:23:19 this outreach to the community and i i
2:23:21 think that's
2:23:22 the the absolutely uh essential next
2:23:24 step and the sooner
2:23:26 uh rather than later so i'm i'm glad to
2:23:28 see that that's on the
2:23:30 docket i think we also want to leverage
2:23:34 school district and getting that set up
2:23:35 they have um
2:23:37 actually much better access to
2:23:40 the students and the parents of the
2:23:43 students
2:23:43 than we typically do so engaging them in
2:23:47 doing the outreach would be
2:23:49 extremely important and i also like the
2:23:52 chief's idea
2:23:52 very very much about engaging the
2:23:55 students in this conversation
2:23:57 because they have a different
2:23:57 perspective and a different set of needs
2:23:59 than their parents do
2:24:01 my two cents
2:24:05 councilmember hall
2:24:09 thank you councilmember jamie michelle
2:24:10 this is councilmember hall um
2:24:12 yeah i'll just add also that i think
2:24:14 this is the appropriate next step to
2:24:16 have a
2:24:17 a joint community conversation about
2:24:18 this with the broader community with
2:24:20 parents with youth
2:24:22 um in particular um
2:24:25 you know we heard um last year
2:24:28 also many youth talk about the impact
2:24:31 you know whether the
2:24:32 intention whether the intent is there or
2:24:36 not we talk we heard a lot from youth
2:24:38 too about the impact of sros
2:24:40 on their personal behavioral health and
2:24:42 their learning environment too so we
2:24:43 just need to make sure we're also
2:24:45 calling attention to their needs
2:24:47 listening to them as part of this
2:24:48 conversation
2:24:49 too um so yeah no i just wanted to say
2:24:53 this is the appropriate next step thank
2:24:58 are there any additional comments um
2:25:02 cheap obama
2:25:05 i'll defer to um council president hunt
2:25:08 i think she
2:25:09 had her commented first there you go
2:25:12 councilmember council president thank
2:25:14 you this is council president hence i'll
2:25:16 be brief i
2:25:17 i think that a next step is this
2:25:19 community convening
2:25:21 i think especially in light of the
2:25:23 changes that have happened over time
2:25:25 with the kind of work that
2:25:26 police officers in the sro position are
2:25:29 doing i think it would be good to
2:25:31 um touch base with the community and and
2:25:34 have this convening and then get
2:25:35 feedback from that and
2:25:37 um i would be supportive of the meeting
2:25:42 great keep your obama is it all right if
2:25:45 i ask a question
2:25:46 before you wrap up um
2:25:49 and i had a two-part question and the
2:25:51 first part may be for
2:25:52 city administrator bob kuitz to answer
2:25:56 i was thinking about we have this open
2:25:58 public meeting act
2:26:00 restriction that keeps the number of
2:26:02 council members
2:26:04 and the number of school board members
2:26:05 that could be present at a public
2:26:07 meeting
2:26:08 and i'm just wondering if there's a way
2:26:10 that we can
2:26:11 establish this uh community meeting so
2:26:15 uh all of us or all all of us who want
2:26:18 to attend could attend
2:26:20 and all of the school board members who
2:26:21 want to attend kuda-chan is that
2:26:23 there's some legal way of doing that
2:26:26 cosmetic michelle members of the council
2:26:28 yes absolutely we
2:26:30 would just notice it as meetings of both
2:26:32 bodies
2:26:33 so that's something we certainly can do
2:26:36 thank you and then um i you touched on
2:26:39 this chief beer bomb
2:26:40 and uh i will just
2:26:44 say that it is sometimes very
2:26:46 intimidating for students to come
2:26:48 in front of a lot a lot of adults and
2:26:51 speak
2:26:52 publicly and so if we can give students
2:26:55 multiple ways of communicating with us
2:26:58 i think that would be really appropriate
2:27:00 whether that's small meetings or
2:27:02 online or you know something creative
2:27:07 uh that would appeal to them but
2:27:11 i i just have been in too many meetings
2:27:14 where
2:27:15 young people uh find it very difficult
2:27:17 to voice their opinion in front of a
2:27:19 large
2:27:20 number of adults so uh if we can come up
2:27:22 with some
2:27:23 alternative ways i think it would be
2:27:25 great and that's
2:27:27 uh are there any other comments and then
2:27:29 i'll turn it back to you chief beerbot
2:27:33 uh councilmember goodman ah thank you
2:27:36 uh councilmember goodman here i agree
2:27:38 with councilmember dean michelle
2:27:40 to make sure that we have um
2:27:43 we are we have methods of receiving um
2:27:47 meaningful input from students
2:27:51 um and not only is it intimidating but i
2:27:54 think the things the kinds of things
2:27:57 people have to say they might not be
2:28:01 comfortable saying
2:28:02 um in public and i also want to make
2:28:05 sure that
2:28:06 we have all of the right voices the
2:28:08 table
2:28:09 i call them the strangers make sure we
2:28:11 have all the strangers at the table
2:28:12 people who don't necessarily think like
2:28:14 everybody else that's
2:28:16 uh in the group it's easy to think of
2:28:18 parents and students
2:28:20 and the city council and the school
2:28:22 board but there's also staff
2:28:25 and i also would think that maybe one of
2:28:27 the questions isn't just
2:28:29 do we continue with a sro program maybe
2:28:32 the one one of the questions is
2:28:34 is there um an alternative way
2:28:38 to deal with the issues
2:28:42 that we're trying to deal with in
2:28:43 schools given that they are involved
2:28:45 evolving maybe it's not a police officer
2:28:48 maybe it's a police officer and
2:28:50 something else
2:28:51 maybe i i don't know but you know things
2:28:54 have changed a lot in 20 years
2:28:56 and so maybe it just shouldn't be about
2:29:00 maybe we should um be open to some other
2:29:02 creative
2:29:03 ideas i don't know what they are but
2:29:06 that's my comment thanks so much
2:29:13 just waiting to see if somebody else
2:29:15 would like to comment
2:29:18 all right chief bierbaum you wanted to
2:29:20 make a comment
2:29:22 yes thank you councilmember michelle uh
2:29:25 just to add to the
2:29:26 student level i do know that there is a
2:29:29 student uh led kind of equity group that
2:29:33 really um stepping forward in a lot of
2:29:36 conversations
2:29:37 and they have some really strong voices
2:29:39 and they're willing to come forward to
2:29:41 i'm i am sure they're willing to be a
2:29:43 part of this um
2:29:44 meeting to maybe help facilitate making
2:29:46 sure that their
2:29:47 voices are heard so that that is i mean
2:29:50 some of the
2:29:50 interactions that i've had with them
2:29:53 they are very
2:29:54 um articulate they are very engaged they
2:29:57 are very willing to
2:29:58 be a part of these community
2:30:00 conversations so i think that that would
2:30:01 be a good group to help facilitate those
2:30:04 and address those concerns with making
2:30:05 sure that they're they're heard
2:30:09 thank you is there are there any further
2:30:12 comments
2:30:12 on this item
2:30:15 so we have two more items on the agenda
2:30:18 and then we have an
2:30:19 executive session it is nine o'clock so
2:30:21 we've been
2:30:22 sitting for two and a half hours so i'm
2:30:25 wondering if we should take a five
2:30:26 minute break
2:30:27 now rather than when we go to executive
2:30:30 session i'm seeing a lot of modding hits
2:30:32 and thumbs up
2:30:33 so uh let us uh
2:30:36 let's uh let's take a short break and
2:30:39 we'll be back at 906.
2:30:42 all right thank you
2:35:01 you shouldn't my sound clear up you know
2:35:04 it did and your video has been strong
2:35:08 it seems like the beginning of the
2:35:10 meeting is is the hardest
2:35:12 part and i've noticed this in past
2:35:14 meetings too
2:35:15 yeah thank goodness and thank you for
2:35:18 your patience we've had
2:35:20 multiple technical challenges tonight so
2:35:24 thank you
2:35:44 and council member d michelle i'm sure
2:35:46 you recall this but we'll want to give
2:35:48 david
2:35:48 a brief heads up before starting again
2:37:15 there we go david are we ready
2:37:23 all right
2:37:28 all right welcome back to the issaquah
2:37:31 city council meeting
2:37:32 and we are going to go ahead with the
2:37:34 next item which is id
2:37:37 0847 human services commission
2:37:40 equity work and it's being presented by
2:37:42 monica ngrilla
2:37:44 our human services manager uh monica go
2:37:47 take it take it away thank you very much
2:37:51 councilmember
2:37:51 michelle i'm gonna try to share my
2:37:54 screen
2:38:10 just a moment
2:38:14 okay i hope this is working
2:38:18 um so thank you for having us back
2:38:20 tonight
2:38:21 um i'm gonna focus on providing an
2:38:24 update
2:38:25 on the um equity work conducted by the
2:38:28 human services commission related to the
2:38:30 city's equity initiatives
2:38:32 and we are also looking um city um we
2:38:35 are looking for feedback from
2:38:37 a city council regarding
2:38:40 the identified next steps into this
2:38:43 process
2:38:44 um so it's just a brief background
2:38:48 um the police accountability equity and
2:38:50 human services action plan
2:38:52 uh tasked the human services commission
2:38:56 reviewing the role of residents in the
2:38:58 city's equity initiatives
2:39:00 and returning to council with
2:39:02 recommendations
2:39:03 regarding a possible
2:39:06 changes to the role and scope of the
2:39:09 human services
2:39:10 commission or with possibly creating a
2:39:13 um equity commission
2:39:16 um and so part of that is
2:39:20 right after um the
2:39:23 police accountability action plan was
2:39:25 endorsed by council
2:39:27 in september the human services
2:39:29 commission
2:39:30 outlined a tentative process and
2:39:32 timeline to
2:39:34 um to do this work and so we created
2:39:37 like a three-step process um first we
2:39:40 identified this
2:39:42 research and um planning community
2:39:44 activation
2:39:45 phase um and then we also identified
2:39:48 like a community engagement phase um
2:39:51 followed
2:39:52 by a final summary and recommendations
2:39:56 and so more specifically in september
2:40:00 we invited and engaged with various
2:40:03 community members
2:40:05 of diverse racial backgrounds to be
2:40:07 partners in this process
2:40:09 we engaged with the student equity
2:40:11 council at the school
2:40:12 we also engaged with a couple of
2:40:14 grassroots community
2:40:16 um or not organizations but groups
2:40:20 uh with also individual community
2:40:22 members
2:40:23 and um also with uh right the right to
2:40:25 breed committee
2:40:27 um we also conducted a mid-year
2:40:29 commission
2:40:30 member recruitment um to ensure that we
2:40:34 have um diverse um
2:40:37 community members uh being part of the
2:40:39 commission and being
2:40:41 um part of this conversation early on
2:40:44 um in addition we
2:40:47 heard from our city's equity team on
2:40:50 the city's equity initiatives um the
2:40:53 commission also engaged in an equity
2:40:55 training and personal growth
2:40:58 and then we also formed the planning
2:40:59 group that included
2:41:02 three of the commissioners and also our
2:41:04 city equity consultant at that time
2:41:07 um so this process lasted until december
2:41:12 and then at that time the planning group
2:41:15 and the
2:41:15 consultant dr pat effiong um
2:41:19 worked on really planning out the
2:41:21 community engagement process
2:41:23 and so we identified
2:41:27 the need to really have authentic
2:41:30 conversations with our community members
2:41:32 and for this we conducted three focus
2:41:36 groups
2:41:37 we directly sent invitations to diverse
2:41:40 community members to be part of this
2:41:42 conversation
2:41:43 we had a total of about 40 community
2:41:45 members participate in the three focus
2:41:47 groups
2:41:48 so the the groups were um fairly small
2:41:51 but provided for an opportunity to
2:41:53 really have
2:41:54 um and hear um in input and feedback
2:41:58 from community members and really have
2:42:00 authentic um conversations
2:42:02 um we followed those focus groups uh by
2:42:06 two large community convenings when
2:42:08 where we invited the entire community
2:42:10 um each of the community convenings had
2:42:12 about um
2:42:14 uh 50 plus um participants attending
2:42:17 um so we really that also provided uh
2:42:20 an opportunity for further conversations
2:42:23 and hearing
2:42:24 um from um from our members in in the
2:42:27 community
2:42:28 um there are two action items uh that
2:42:32 we postponed initially um these were
2:42:34 included in our planning phase
2:42:37 um but we later decided on one and due
2:42:40 to timing and also
2:42:42 um we wanted to um postpone a couple of
2:42:46 conversations including what that other
2:42:48 cities and jurisdictions are doing until
2:42:51 um after the community engagement
2:42:53 process
2:42:54 um and then also reviewing the
2:42:57 human services commission bylaws um and
2:43:00 looking
2:43:01 further into that and so these two items
2:43:04 um are still
2:43:06 um planned for
2:43:09 actually um later this week and then
2:43:11 next month
2:43:12 um and so uh this concludes the second
2:43:16 planning the community engagement
2:43:17 process um
2:43:19 and i'm gonna pause a little bit so i
2:43:22 provide a little bit of additional
2:43:24 information on
2:43:26 what we heard um during the community
2:43:29 engagement
2:43:30 both in focus groups and in the larger
2:43:32 convenings
2:43:33 um we really heard that and from
2:43:35 community members that
2:43:36 feeling heard is very very important
2:43:39 it's crucial
2:43:40 um community members um really expressed
2:43:43 a desire to build relationship with
2:43:46 police
2:43:46 um and they also felt like there is a
2:43:50 need for a long-term commitment
2:43:52 um on on that and um there was also um
2:43:56 slight fear that perhaps um
2:43:59 um um
2:44:02 that perhaps um um
2:44:06 this topic will be forgotten if we don't
2:44:08 continue to focus on it
2:44:10 um community members also expressed an
2:44:13 interest in
2:44:14 um cultural dive um events and also
2:44:19 expressed interest in coordinating and
2:44:21 communicating with other systems
2:44:23 especially the school district
2:44:25 um also we we heard from community
2:44:28 members that
2:44:30 there is a need for a system of
2:44:31 accountability uh for an
2:44:33 um oversight committee um that
2:44:37 needs to have a weight and power in in
2:44:39 making
2:44:41 recommendations for policy um decisions
2:44:44 and changes
2:44:46 um and then also we we heard that there
2:44:48 really is a desire to engage in
2:44:50 continuous conversation
2:44:52 uh on on equity issues and that
2:44:55 this work does not have to happen only
2:44:57 on on one level but
2:44:59 it's really it's a multi-level
2:45:03 work that needs to happen at the
2:45:05 individual level
2:45:06 at the relational level um and
2:45:10 in the community and as a system
2:45:13 level also so based on the feedback that
2:45:17 we heard from the community
2:45:19 the planning group and um with the aid
2:45:22 of our consultant
2:45:23 we tried to put the feedback that we
2:45:27 heard in
2:45:28 different buckets based on um
2:45:31 kind of like which system or which
2:45:34 community partners
2:45:35 address those specific issues so for
2:45:37 example
2:45:38 um in the green quadrant here um
2:45:43 we we put all the feedback that we heard
2:45:46 uh regarding the school district or
2:45:48 curriculum or students
2:45:50 and and we put them there knowing that
2:45:52 the school district um
2:45:54 and the student equity council are
2:45:56 addressing those
2:45:57 um issues so then we could um refer our
2:46:00 community members
2:46:01 to continue building a relationship with
2:46:03 the school district
2:46:05 um and that in in the future we will
2:46:07 also have an opportunity to
2:46:09 coordinate and kind of like um
2:46:13 communicate with our school district but
2:46:15 that we as a city directly
2:46:17 um we cannot um directly um
2:46:22 influence on the work that's going on
2:46:24 going on in the school district however
2:46:26 we would be
2:46:27 love to be partners in communicating um
2:46:30 and coordinating efforts um we um also
2:46:34 put in
2:46:34 in the next packet down here um the
2:46:38 gray packet perhaps we put the
2:46:41 the issues that we heard regarding
2:46:44 building a community
2:46:45 and cultural events and a need for other
2:46:48 diversity events
2:46:50 such as the welcoming week or um events
2:46:53 um that celebrate different cultures
2:46:55 languages and communities
2:46:57 um and so we know that there are um
2:47:00 various community and based
2:47:02 and faith-based organizations who really
2:47:05 um at various levels to put together
2:47:09 different events
2:47:10 um and so again we would love to support
2:47:13 them in any way as we can
2:47:14 as a city and elevate those voices
2:47:19 and then of course we heard of about
2:47:21 other issues
2:47:23 that are human services related but also
2:47:25 perhaps sometimes we heard
2:47:26 of need for community resources and we
2:47:29 understand that these are issues that
2:47:30 the human services commission is doing
2:47:33 so than me with them in that separate
2:47:35 bucket
2:47:36 um and then lastly in in this blue
2:47:39 quadrant we kept the
2:47:41 um feedback and the input that we heard
2:47:45 um regarding a need for racial equity
2:47:48 for looking at the city policies and for
2:47:51 building the relationship with our
2:47:52 police department
2:47:54 so this is what we heard from the
2:47:56 community and so this
2:47:58 created the opportunity to take back
2:48:02 the feedback that we heard to the human
2:48:03 services commission
2:48:05 and perhaps continue to look into that
2:48:08 proposing
2:48:10 and looking into how recommendations
2:48:12 regarding the
2:48:14 possible possibly an equity board or
2:48:16 commission for the city
2:48:18 um and so that's where we are right now
2:48:21 actually
2:48:22 um the human services commission is
2:48:24 meeting later this week on thursday
2:48:26 uh to actually formally um look at and
2:48:29 summarize
2:48:30 all the information that we learned
2:48:32 through the community conversations and
2:48:34 the convenings
2:48:35 um also at that time the commission will
2:48:38 review
2:48:39 similar work done by other jurisdictions
2:48:42 and then we'll further discuss um the
2:48:44 creation of an equity board
2:48:46 um or commission um to include uh
2:48:49 title membership excuse me
2:48:52 role and scope for such commission
2:48:55 duties and responsibilities so this will
2:48:57 happen this week as i said and
2:48:59 um perhaps also in march if the
2:49:01 conversation
2:49:03 needs to also be extended in march um
2:49:06 and then following
2:49:07 um that uh we hope um that the
2:49:10 commission is going to be able to make
2:49:11 recommendations to the mayor and city
2:49:13 council
2:49:15 on the options either um on the modified
2:49:18 human services commission um and an
2:49:21 equity commission
2:49:23 or a new equity board commission or
2:49:26 something else
2:49:27 again just highlighting those though
2:49:29 here we did hear from the community
2:49:31 um that um oh the human services
2:49:34 commission
2:49:35 has a significant workload and that
2:49:38 perhaps a new board on equity
2:49:41 or commission makes more sense however
2:49:44 i'm highlighting these options just
2:49:46 because the human services commission
2:49:47 did not formally yet
2:49:48 take a decision on this um
2:49:54 and so with that in summarizing um we
2:49:57 would love to hear
2:49:58 um feedback from uh council
2:50:01 on whether our identified next steps
2:50:04 make sense
2:50:05 uh we would hope to return to council
2:50:07 with the formal recommendations
2:50:09 sometimes either at the end of april or
2:50:11 early may
2:50:12 um and then um also if there's anything
2:50:14 that you you believe we missed in this
2:50:16 process so far
2:50:17 or any additional information might be
2:50:19 needed we would love to hear that
2:50:20 feedback
2:50:22 um and with that i'm gonna stop sharing
2:50:25 i can be available for questions great
2:50:29 um do we have any council questions from
2:50:32 the council
2:50:34 sorry
2:50:43 uh council president hunt thank you
2:50:46 um i think earlier in the presentations
2:50:49 chief beerbomb had mentioned
2:50:50 that there's potential for a community
2:50:54 oversight that
2:50:56 that could be required by the state and
2:50:58 then i
2:50:59 noticed also in the contemplated
2:51:03 roles and responsibilities for this new
2:51:05 board
2:51:06 that it also has a police relations
2:51:10 community i think component to it and so
2:51:14 i wondered um
2:51:15 if there had been any consideration or
2:51:17 what the thinking is around
2:51:19 what happens and does it affect this uh
2:51:22 formation of a border commission does it
2:51:24 does the
2:51:25 state state oversight committee
2:51:29 have an impact here
2:51:33 yes thank you so much for that question
2:51:34 and i just realized that i
2:51:36 um mentioned that briefly in my report
2:51:38 but i did not mention it in my
2:51:40 presentation that
2:51:41 i think it does definitely make sense
2:51:43 and we are hoping with the timing that
2:51:45 it will align
2:51:46 we would like to keep an eye on um what
2:51:49 the state legislation um is is gonna
2:51:52 propose
2:51:53 and then um we are working and
2:51:54 coordinating with uh with our
2:51:56 police chief and so uh definitely um
2:52:00 perhaps if the human services commission
2:52:01 did not make it the recommendations it
2:52:03 would be great to align
2:52:04 those recommendations and look for
2:52:06 opportunities to uh to merge those two
2:52:14 did you want to weigh in
2:52:17 yeah i can add to council president
2:52:19 hunt's uh
2:52:20 question comment uh the legislation
2:52:22 that's in front is really
2:52:24 truly pointed at police actions
2:52:27 so where i think the overlap would be is
2:52:30 the the new
2:52:31 community equity commission would be
2:52:33 involved with all
2:52:34 things city whereas this the potential
2:52:37 legislation will only be directed at
2:52:39 police interaction
2:52:41 so yeah we'll keep a close eye on that
2:52:43 and then of course have that interaction
2:52:45 human services and and the next
2:52:47 evolution
2:52:52 right um
2:52:57 i do i i i do have a comment or question
2:53:01 uh maybe more of a question it sounds to
2:53:04 uh when i was reading it that there's a
2:53:06 little subtle
2:53:07 nuance in there in that they're they're
2:53:09 not talking so much about oversight as
2:53:11 they are talking about relationships
2:53:13 with the police um and
2:53:17 that had a very different feel to me
2:53:20 than the traditional police
2:53:23 oversight commission which is often a
2:53:26 very adversarial group with the police
2:53:29 so i'm just wondering if there was a
2:53:31 reason why they chose the word
2:53:33 relationship
2:53:34 rather than oversight uh did
2:53:37 or was that what you were hearing from
2:53:39 the public or
2:53:41 maybe you could talk a little bit more
2:53:42 about that
2:53:44 um yes thank you very much for that
2:53:46 question um yes
2:53:47 at this point so far in in the focus
2:53:50 groups or in the larger
2:53:52 convenings we did not necessarily hear
2:53:54 the word oversight
2:53:56 um it was more the relationship building
2:54:00 people are really interested in being
2:54:03 heard and really building relationships
2:54:06 that that's what we heard so far
2:54:12 thank you and uh council president hunt
2:54:15 you're next and then
2:54:16 councilmember walsh
2:54:20 i already went oh i'm sorry
2:54:22 councilmember washington
2:54:26 i think actually councilmember hall was
2:54:28 right in front of me
2:54:31 all right good councilmember hall
2:54:35 thank you uh this is councilmember hall
2:54:37 just a quick clarifying question for
2:54:38 monica so the policy question that will
2:54:40 be before
2:54:41 human services commission is isn't just
2:54:45 whether or not to establish a new
2:54:47 commission right it's
2:54:49 one to consider changing the scope
2:54:52 of the human services commission to
2:54:54 consider changing the scope of
2:54:57 any other boards or commission or having
2:55:00 a new citywide commission on equity is
2:55:02 that right
2:55:03 yes that is correct that is in in the
2:55:05 action plan thank you
2:55:06 okay all right and councilmember walsh
2:55:11 thank you um at this point
2:55:15 in the information i haven't seen enough
2:55:17 that would convince me that
2:55:19 we need another commission i'm
2:55:22 pretty protective of staff time and
2:55:25 community
2:55:26 effort as well and so i haven't seen
2:55:30 anything that's really leading me down
2:55:32 that path so
2:55:34 i think the the things that would
2:55:37 make me more interested in doing so is
2:55:41 really understanding
2:55:43 current human services commission just
2:55:45 really cannot
2:55:47 take that on and what the
2:55:52 not the product of but what
2:55:55 what the scope of that commission would
2:56:00 where it would not fit into the scope of
2:56:04 a current commission i think i'm just
2:56:06 i'm having a hard time separating
2:56:08 out some of these ideas and
2:56:10 understanding why it can't
2:56:12 happen under one one particular
2:56:16 realm and so those are kind of the
2:56:17 questions that are going through my mind
2:56:19 that i would be interested to hear about
2:56:20 in a future presentation
2:56:23 thank you thank you director watling
2:56:26 would like to add a comment
2:56:35 he would for some reason his camera's
2:56:37 not working i apologize can you hear me
2:56:39 yes all right thank you jeff watling
2:56:42 thanks for the time
2:56:43 great question councilmember walsh i i
2:56:45 think this next step is going to be
2:56:46 really important work for the human
2:56:48 services commission to really
2:56:49 think through uh those very questions
2:56:51 and and
2:56:52 um i think they certainly look forward
2:56:56 framing up a recommendation and thinking
2:56:58 through that i just wanted to add in
2:57:00 general
2:57:01 um i i i want to commend monica and the
2:57:04 human services commission for this
2:57:06 approach
2:57:06 um having worked directly with monica
2:57:09 and the commission throughout this
2:57:10 process
2:57:11 being really deliberate and intentional
2:57:13 about having focus group
2:57:15 conversations as well as the convenings
2:57:17 i think we found to be really
2:57:19 advantageous
2:57:20 and allowed us to have some really
2:57:21 authentic conversation about some hard
2:57:24 topics
2:57:24 talking about racial equity is not an
2:57:26 easy conversation and so
2:57:28 i just i i want to commend monica and
2:57:30 the commission for doing the work
2:57:33 as we start looking at other really
2:57:35 important community conversations such
2:57:36 as a school resource
2:57:37 officer i just i want to reinforce that
2:57:40 the importance and the value of
2:57:42 a focus group conversations can really
2:57:46 really get feedback from all communities
2:57:47 in all communities of color
2:57:49 so again thanks for letting me add the
2:57:52 comment great work monica
2:57:53 and commission as we continue this work
2:57:59 thank you are there any more uh comments
2:58:02 to give to the administration
2:58:03 on future actions
2:58:11 i will just add that i thought it was a
2:58:14 very very thorough process that you went
2:58:16 through
2:58:16 and i'm looking forward to hearing what
2:58:18 the human services commission
2:58:20 um recommends in the end so thank you so
2:58:23 much for all the work
2:58:24 lots of hard work and we appreciate it
2:58:26 very much
2:58:28 uh we'll go on to the last time tonight
2:58:30 oh sorry
2:58:31 or did somebody want to say something
2:58:34 okay i apologize i was just saying thank
2:58:36 you have a good night
2:58:37 so sorry thank you that's okay that's
2:58:40 all right
2:58:41 the last item tonight is id 0848
2:58:45 city council equity training and i will
2:58:47 turn it over to
2:58:49 uh human services director stephanie
2:58:51 johnson
2:58:53 good evening um let me do a
2:58:56 good old share here make sure we're
2:59:01 i'm displaying okay if somebody could
2:59:03 give me
2:59:04 the thumbs up or comment that it's
2:59:07 displaying on
2:59:08 my presentation no not yet
2:59:18 it's saying starting to share content so
2:59:20 maybe it's a loading a presentation or
2:59:22 something
2:59:25 i'll give it a second here
2:59:29 it tells me i'm sharing so maybe you're
2:59:32 right
2:59:32 that it's just taking a minute there it
2:59:35 okay great thank you appreciate that um
2:59:39 the last item on the agenda tonight is
2:59:41 to provide an update on what's next for
2:59:43 you all on the next city council equity
2:59:45 training
2:59:47 and also solicit your feedback um on
2:59:50 timing
2:59:50 and dates so
2:59:54 uh you may uh recall it was uh
2:59:57 back in august of 2020 we did our first
3:00:00 baseline training with council
3:00:03 it helped us learn about the history of
3:00:05 statistic racism
3:00:07 implicit bias impacts on decision making
3:00:11 and ensure we're using common language
3:00:14 when we came to you for the last police
3:00:17 accountability
3:00:18 equity and human services action update
3:00:22 we asked the question of the council
3:00:23 what you desire for the next training
3:00:25 and uh the staff take away from that uh
3:00:28 was that you wanted to focus on two
3:00:30 areas
3:00:31 uh racial equity framework and how that
3:00:33 could inform council decision making
3:00:36 and then in future also how we can take
3:00:39 this work and connect it to the
3:00:40 community
3:00:43 uh bonita horn was the trainer that you
3:00:46 uh you know spent time with back in
3:00:49 august
3:00:50 of bonita horn and associates um we have
3:00:53 been talking to her about the next
3:00:54 opportunity for training uh for that
3:00:57 framework
3:00:58 um you know what inequity lens
3:01:02 looks like i mentioned earlier in
3:01:04 presentations this evening
3:01:07 interchangeably called a framework a
3:01:10 tool kit
3:01:10 an equity lens but the next training
3:01:13 would focus on why you would want to use
3:01:16 and actually walk you through some
3:01:18 examples using different frameworks
3:01:20 um you know different organizations that
3:01:23 are a little further along in this work
3:01:25 than we are here in issaquah but such as
3:01:28 those used currently by
3:01:29 seattle and king county in action maybe
3:01:32 that's you know
3:01:33 using that framework or equity lens in a
3:01:35 city project
3:01:37 um recruitment it could be the budget
3:01:40 process
3:01:40 but so that you understand what that
3:01:43 framework is and how
3:01:44 um that could be relevant to your work
3:01:46 as a as a council
3:01:49 um so tonight just looking for uh
3:01:52 you know feedback to make sure that
3:01:54 we're still on target with council
3:01:56 expectations
3:01:58 around those two focus areas that you
3:02:00 told us back in november
3:02:02 you wanted training on um and then
3:02:04 figure out what date works
3:02:06 uh best next for said training
3:02:12 thank you we have a question from uh
3:02:15 council deputy president ray
3:02:17 uh thank you council member d michelle
3:02:20 thanks stephanie what um what does
3:02:24 bonita contemplate
3:02:25 the length of this second training to be
3:02:28 because if my recollection is right the
3:02:30 first one was was rather long
3:02:33 it was and this one is intended to be
3:02:36 about half
3:02:37 that time so the first one was about
3:02:40 hours this would be a two hour training
3:02:43 great
3:02:47 [Music]
3:02:48 any other questions or comments i cannot
3:02:51 see everybody so
3:02:53 um you'll need to put it in the chat
3:02:57 i too am gonna stop sharing just because
3:03:00 i lose
3:03:01 all the comments and faces when i'm
3:03:03 sharing so
3:03:04 um you know one thing we can do is
3:03:08 play around with some dates um offline
3:03:11 i do um you know i i i know the
3:03:14 administration was asking
3:03:16 um you know today in terms of uh
3:03:19 dates that the trainer is available i
3:03:21 can certainly share those forward
3:03:24 um so that we're not all necessarily
3:03:26 pulling out our calendars tonight
3:03:28 um i know you have a uh executive
3:03:31 session
3:03:31 following this so um i guess you know if
3:03:35 we could walk away tonight with you know
3:03:38 understanding that this is still the
3:03:39 avenue um of the content of the training
3:03:42 um and the time commitment um you know
3:03:45 we're looking over
3:03:46 the month of march to to and maybe into
3:03:50 the first couple weeks of
3:03:51 april um to to get this next training in
3:03:54 place so as long as um we've got
3:03:56 direction tonight from council on that
3:03:58 we can certainly work um offline um
3:04:01 around dates so i have uh
3:04:04 i believe i've got three people who want
3:04:06 to make comments so
3:04:09 we do have some some time that we need
3:04:12 give input here let's go back to um
3:04:16 councilmember ray for his comments and
3:04:18 then councilmember hall
3:04:20 and council president hunt uh thank you
3:04:23 councilmember dean michelle chris ray
3:04:25 um just a couple of things um i think
3:04:28 this is definitely something that we
3:04:29 want to do
3:04:30 i think a two-hour session during the
3:04:34 as a study session makes sense um we are
3:04:36 very fortunate
3:04:37 or not in in march that we have uh we
3:04:41 um five weeks in march so we actually
3:04:43 have an extra week on the 29th
3:04:45 the that being said the council
3:04:47 president i had talked about
3:04:49 wanting to abscond with that time to do
3:04:52 some follow-up on
3:04:53 our um council retreat and we had talked
3:04:56 about it to retreat a couple of
3:04:58 action areas and using that week
3:05:01 or that study session block is an
3:05:04 opportune time
3:05:05 to um have one of our first follow-up
3:05:08 sessions so
3:05:08 i would be interested to know what the
3:05:10 rest of the council thinks about
3:05:12 um you know it's a matter of it's not
3:05:14 prioritization but it's um
3:05:17 you know where would you like to go i
3:05:20 we can we can go with uh the equity
3:05:22 training on the 29th
3:05:23 or we can do a follow-up on on some of
3:05:26 the actions from
3:05:27 from the retreat so i i'd be very
3:05:29 interested in your
3:05:30 your thoughts on that
3:05:34 thank you councilmember hall
3:05:39 uh thank you this is councilmember hall
3:05:43 interesting um i i do like the idea of
3:05:46 having our second
3:05:47 um if it works for benita having our
3:05:49 second um
3:05:52 training on this date and i think
3:05:53 stephanie the way you laid it out sounds
3:05:56 fine to me um uh
3:06:00 i think revisiting our
3:06:04 retreat sounds good too though soon
3:06:07 so i don't i don't know how i justify
3:06:09 that but uh
3:06:10 um maybe leadership can go off and
3:06:13 figure it out come back
3:06:16 the only other thing i wanted to make
3:06:17 sure to add to was i really really
3:06:20 enjoyed our last equity training
3:06:22 but i felt at the end it just ended
3:06:25 and we didn't really have an opportunity
3:06:27 to react and talk to each other about
3:06:30 what we learned
3:06:31 um and i didn't like that if there is a
3:06:33 way for us to
3:06:35 make sure we have some time at the end
3:06:37 of the next training and
3:06:38 this training might be structured so
3:06:40 differently that it wouldn't even
3:06:42 be a benefit to have that space but i
3:06:44 think
3:06:45 um maybe we have a conversation with
3:06:47 benita and
3:06:48 um if it's similar in style
3:06:52 to the training that we had in august i
3:06:54 think
3:06:55 ensuring that there's space in the
3:06:58 agenda for us to react and talk to each
3:07:00 other about what we learned
3:07:01 is important can i address that one in
3:07:05 particular
3:07:06 um thank you for um reminding me of that
3:07:11 because that was
3:07:12 also a takeaway that um we heard from
3:07:14 the november
3:07:16 um update that you all desired some time
3:07:19 um to talk about this as a team and so
3:07:22 as we have been laying some groundwork
3:07:24 with benita
3:07:26 uh to set up this next training we ask
3:07:28 that that be a part of the scope so
3:07:30 um beyond the conversation around
3:07:33 framework
3:07:34 um that we have some time to interact
3:07:36 and do just that so
3:07:38 um thank you for um calling that out we
3:07:41 have talked to her already about that
3:07:44 great council president hunt thank you
3:07:47 this is council president hunt i
3:07:50 i am interested especially in the action
3:07:54 part of the meeting in terms of
3:07:56 understanding how the framework
3:07:58 um would be applied in our different
3:08:00 policy
3:08:01 discussions in the different decisions
3:08:03 that we make so that
3:08:04 that that part of the conversation or
3:08:07 that part of the training
3:08:08 um appeals to me and i i'm very
3:08:10 interested in that
3:08:11 uh as far as the scheduling i um
3:08:14 i think from my perspective it would be
3:08:16 helpful to know if there's
3:08:18 a strong um if there's a strong feeling
3:08:22 about the ordering here because um
3:08:25 because then we would take that into
3:08:27 consideration with the scheduling and um
3:08:30 council's deputy president said we do
3:08:32 have some other things that we were
3:08:33 thinking about for these
3:08:35 these meetings is especially or namely
3:08:38 follow-up to the retreat and some of the
3:08:40 process ambiguity
3:08:42 um items that came out of that retreat
3:08:45 that we know we want to
3:08:46 discuss and revisit so
3:08:49 it would be good to get a sense if there
3:08:51 is a strong desire to have those
3:08:53 ordered in a particular way by council
3:08:55 that would be good for leadership to
3:08:56 know and then otherwise i think we can
3:08:58 take that we can take this conversation
3:09:01 back and and look at the calendars and
3:09:03 figure out a way that
3:09:04 um works so that we can have both
3:09:07 uh both topics scheduled
3:09:11 um in a order that works on the
3:09:14 calendars
3:09:16 uh councilmember hall our council member
3:09:18 marks excuse me
3:09:20 thank you councilmember michelle this is
3:09:21 councilmember mart yeah
3:09:23 uh i i like first in first out we've
3:09:26 been dealing with
3:09:28 uh blm and diversity and inclusion and
3:09:31 equity issues
3:09:32 uh since last summer so i would like
3:09:36 to uh uh if we have additional
3:09:39 work we want to do on that i would like
3:09:41 to do that first and then
3:09:42 do the additional work uh out of the
3:09:46 retreat that would be that would be my
3:09:48 preference thank you
3:09:50 thank you uh city administrator bob
3:09:52 kowitz would like to make a comment
3:09:58 uh i i think just really to echo the
3:09:59 council president we'll we'll be able to
3:10:01 schedule
3:10:02 um what you would like i think we are
3:10:04 able to free up the 23rd
3:10:06 as well as the 29th and so if council
3:10:08 leadership wishes to talk further about
3:10:11 we can accomplish both during the month
3:10:12 of march
3:10:14 thank you and councilmember goodman oh
3:10:18 never mind i see it now
3:10:23 are there any other comments
3:10:27 i um i look forward to the
3:10:30 equity training um i
3:10:33 agree with councilmember hall that i
3:10:36 would really like to see some time for
3:10:38 us to interact i think that's
3:10:40 the most important thing that we can do
3:10:42 to incorporate those ideas
3:10:44 into what we're going to do as we move
3:10:46 forward as a
3:10:47 council and then um i think that
3:10:52 the issues that or the the work items
3:10:55 that were
3:10:55 named uh earlier today that would be
3:10:58 included in another
3:10:59 uh council retreat are also very
3:11:02 important so i would like to see us
3:11:04 schedule both of those meetings uh first
3:11:07 as soon as possible in the future and
3:11:09 i'll let leadership take care of that
3:11:11 um i know i do see that councilmember
3:11:14 goodman would like to make a comment
3:11:16 secret change twice uh councilmember
3:11:19 goodman here so the only thought i had
3:11:21 is to the extent that we can't have
3:11:23 these
3:11:23 that we don't get them super close
3:11:25 together i think if they're close
3:11:26 together
3:11:27 um the additional training and the
3:11:29 follow-up um to the retreat then i don't
3:11:31 think it matters but if
3:11:33 but if they're not we're not able to get
3:11:35 them close together
3:11:37 um i i think having a follow-up to the
3:11:40 retreat
3:11:41 first makes sense to the extent that we
3:11:44 anticipate there would be any items that
3:11:46 would come out of that follow-up
3:11:48 that would re that would require
3:11:51 some work um so if we change the council
3:11:54 handbook for a
3:11:55 for instance then we could have that
3:11:57 meeting
3:11:58 um and if there's anything that comes
3:12:00 out of there about changing the handbook
3:12:01 then that can be worked on
3:12:03 then while we're having um the the
3:12:06 follow-up training that's what that was
3:12:08 my only thought but if we're going to
3:12:09 have them close together it doesn't
3:12:10 matter
3:12:11 thanks okay
3:12:14 director johnson do you have what you
3:12:18 i do thank you very much looking forward
3:12:20 to it
3:12:22 all right we have worked through all of
3:12:24 our items
3:12:26 are there any comments from the council
3:12:28 before we
3:12:31 uh adjourn and also go into executive
3:12:34 session
3:12:34 and i have some things i have to read
3:12:36 before we before we adjourn
3:12:38 so are there any comments before i do
3:12:42 all right seeing none i will go to the
3:12:45 comments
3:12:47 for the good of the order i need uh need
3:12:49 to talk about transition to webex events
3:12:52 this is a reminder that our next council
3:12:54 meeting on march
3:12:55 1st the public will be able to join the
3:12:58 meeting using their computer or
3:13:00 handheld device via our new meeting
3:13:02 platform webex
3:13:03 events the public will be provided a
3:13:06 link to the meeting
3:13:07 in the meeting agenda and website
3:13:08 calendar the phone in option will
3:13:11 continue to be available
3:13:13 city council members may participate in
3:13:15 an optional
3:13:16 test session this friday at 4 30 or 5 pm
3:13:21 and if you're interested please email
3:13:23 the clerk's office
3:13:25 and then secondly we have a special
3:13:26 counsel meeting we will be holding a
3:13:28 special counsel meeting immediately
3:13:30 following this meeting
3:13:31 to convene into executive session we
3:13:34 will use the same meeting link so
3:13:36 council members
3:13:37 please stay on this meeting there will
3:13:40 be no further business
3:13:41 the study session is adjourned at 9
3:13:44 44. and
3:13:48 we will reconvene i'm going to just
3:13:52 take a look at everybody and see do we
3:13:55 want another five minute break
3:13:58 no i'm saying no okay we'll reconvene in
3:14:01 a minute
3:14:02 then so the council chaired
3:14:05 michelle if i made

Attendance

Council / Members (7)
Barbara de Michele, Designated Chair
Stacy Goodman
Zach Hall
Victoria Hunt
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Lindsey Walsh