City Council Special Meeting · Tuesday, September 29, 2020 · City Council Digest

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Staff report:

On September 29, 2020, Mayor Pauly will transmit to the City Council her 2021 Proposed Budget, commencing the City Council’s review of the Proposed Budget, which is anticipated to culminate on November 16, 2020 with City Council adoption of the budget. The purpose of this memorandum is to outline the anticipated schedule for City Council review of the budget so that City Councilmembers know what to expect over the next seven weeks.

Proposed 2021 Budget: Mayor's Presentation ID 0714

20 min · Beth Goldberg, Finance Director Ngan Kim Nguyen, Assistant Auditor 4/Audit Lead Wendy Choy, Audit Manager Lorraine Nita, Assistant Audit Manager

Topics: Budget

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0:06 ↗ good evening and welcome to everyone

0:07 ↗ i'm chris wray i'm going to call the

0:10 ↗ september 29th

0:12 ↗ city council study sessions order before

0:16 ↗ we move to tonight's agenda i'd like to

0:18 ↗ acknowledge our remote meeting format

0:20 ↗ on march 6 the mayor issued the

0:22 ↗ emergency proclamation declaring a civil

0:24 ↗ emergency

0:25 ↗ in the city due to the coven 19 outbreak

0:28 ↗ on march 24th the governor issued

0:30 ↗ proclamation 20-28 prohibiting meetings

0:33 ↗ that fall under the

0:34 ↗ open public meetings act the

0:37 ↗ proclamation has been extended through

0:39 ↗ october 1st tonight's meeting will be

0:42 ↗ held entirely remotely

0:44 ↗ the meeting will be recorded streamed

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0:48 ↗ the city's youtube channel

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0:52 ↗ meeting agenda for members of the public

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1:16 ↗ additionally president council president

1:19 ↗ hunt will be sharing a summary of any

1:21 ↗ course

1:22 ↗ comments that have been emailed

1:24 ↗ regarding tonight's agenda items

1:27 ↗ i will now take roll call council

1:29 ↗ members in attendance please stay here

1:31 ↗ when i call your name

1:32 ↗ councilmember d michelle here

1:36 ↗ councilmember goodman here councilmember

1:38 ↗ hall

1:39 ↗ here council president hunt

1:42 ↗ here council member marks here

1:46 ↗ council member walsh here

1:50 ↗ hey all of our council members are

1:54 ↗ present and accounted for

1:56 ↗ in addition the following city staff and

1:58 ↗ presenters are persist

2:00 ↗ participating in tonight's meeting we

2:02 ↗ have city administrator wally bob kovitz

2:04 ↗ um fire chief jeff clark

2:08 ↗ uh deputy city clerk tina geezer

2:12 ↗ other city staff may also be in

2:13 ↗ attendance and on hand for questions

2:16 ↗ for those members of the public on the

2:18 ↗ call welcome

2:20 ↗ meeting guidelines lastly before we

2:21 ↗ begin i'd like to reiterate some of our

2:23 ↗ meeting guidelines for all meeting

2:25 ↗ attendance

2:26 ↗ please speak clearly and pause

2:27 ↗ frequently state your name each time

2:30 ↗ you're before you're speaking

2:32 ↗ mute your microphone when not speaking

2:34 ↗ and if you're also streaming the live

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2:39 ↗ delay

2:45 ↗ so the first item on the agenda would be

2:47 ↗ public comment

2:48 ↗ clerk has anyone signed up to speak or

2:50 ↗ indicate a desire to speak this evening

2:53 ↗ no no one signed up in advance to speak

2:55 ↗ and i don't see any members of the

2:56 ↗ public on the call with us this evening

2:59 ↗ okay well in that case um

3:02 ↗ on the agenda this evening we have two

3:05 ↗ items

3:06 ↗ one is id seven zero seven three six

3:09 ↗ east side fire and rescue governance

3:11 ↗ model changes

3:12 ↗ presented by uh jeff clark the fire

3:14 ↗ chief and we also have id

3:16 ↗ zero seven eight east side fire and

3:18 ↗ rescue 2021 2022 budget

3:21 ↗ also presented by chief clark

3:24 ↗ if we do have any members of the public

3:26 ↗ join us we will be taking public comment

3:28 ↗ at the completion of council questions

3:32 ↗ after each agenda items just a reminder

3:35 ↗ to the council

3:35 ↗ i'd like to limit our conversation to

3:38 ↗ questions only before public comment and

3:39 ↗ then we'll have time to

3:40 ↗ additional comments that the council

3:43 ↗ would like to make

3:45 ↗ with that i'm going to turn the meeting

3:47 ↗ over to

3:48 ↗ chief clark jeff take it away

3:51 ↗ all right thank you and it's nice to see

3:54 ↗ everybody thank you for allowing me the

3:56 ↗ opportunity to

3:57 ↗ share this information with you thanks

3:59 ↗ to tisha's guidance and separate meeting

4:01 ↗ with me

4:02 ↗ this morning i'm going to try to share

4:04 ↗ my screen here

4:05 ↗ all credit goes to her any failure is me

4:08 ↗ all right let me uh slide this over

4:12 ↗ and you should be seeing this correct

4:18 ↗ we have it okay thank you all right so

4:22 ↗ uh first uh first item that i have to

4:25 ↗ discuss with you today

4:26 ↗ is uh the converting to a

4:31 ↗ non or a non-profit organization and

4:35 ↗ this is a this is an item that we have

4:37 ↗ been

4:38 ↗ working on for uh several years

4:41 ↗ i'm sorry i'm figuring out my powerpoint

4:43 ↗ here we go for several years

4:45 ↗ and i am going to try with both of these

4:47 ↗ presentations to be as brief as possible

4:49 ↗ uh you've received all of the

4:50 ↗ information i'm presenting to you

4:52 ↗ tonight in your packet

4:53 ↗ and i will be uh leave as much time as

4:55 ↗ you need for questions and answers

4:57 ↗ afterwards

4:58 ↗ and hopefully that will be the more

5:00 ↗ informative piece of this other than

5:01 ↗ what was in the packet

5:02 ↗ so first of all the overview on the

5:04 ↗ governance model is

5:06 ↗ is simple as we're put together right

5:08 ↗ now we're in ila interlocal agreement

5:10 ↗ with the five partners uh the

5:13 ↗ some downsides to that ila is that we

5:16 ↗ while it has worked well for 20 years uh

5:19 ↗ there are a few issues that i'll get to

5:20 ↗ in a minute that

5:21 ↗ that need to be addressed in order to

5:24 ↗ stabilize some of the long-term

5:25 ↗ uh some long-term issues that can help

5:28 ↗ out our long-term success as an

5:29 ↗ as an agency the agency started looking

5:32 ↗ at this back in 2015

5:35 ↗ and there was some some

5:39 ↗ some motivation behind the partners to

5:41 ↗ want to move in the right direction but

5:42 ↗ it didn't seem like the state laws were

5:44 ↗ caught up yet

5:45 ↗ to really allow a fire department to

5:46 ↗ become a non-profit at this time there

5:48 ↗ are no fire departments that are

5:49 ↗ non-profits in the state of washington

5:51 ↗ in fact i'm not aware of it

5:52 ↗ of one anywhere other alternatives that

5:55 ↗ were reviewed by the board

5:56 ↗ included whether or not to form a

5:59 ↗ regional fire authority

6:00 ↗ uh becoming one large fire district uh

6:02 ↗ or staying as an ila of course and

6:05 ↗ none of those seem to work like the

6:07 ↗ non-profit

6:08 ↗ uh we referred this to the e for board

6:10 ↗ referred it to the fact

6:12 ↗ back in the march time frame in fact

6:15 ↗ directed me to work with attorneys to

6:16 ↗ draft some articles of incorporation and

6:18 ↗ bylaws we brought the attorneys to a

6:20 ↗ meeting

6:21 ↗ we went through a few renditions of the

6:23 ↗ of the documents that you've had in your

6:25 ↗ packet

6:26 ↗ and have worked through to the point

6:27 ↗ where we took it back to the efer board

6:29 ↗ and the efer board recommended that each

6:32 ↗ of our partner agencies be allowed to

6:34 ↗ review

6:35 ↗ the documents with your legal teams and

6:38 ↗ provide any feedback

6:39 ↗ before the e for board makes a final

6:41 ↗ recommendation and that is exactly what

6:43 ↗ we're doing today

6:43 ↗ here in isquad we're not asking for

6:45 ↗ final approval from you

6:47 ↗ if the e for board approves this then it

6:49 ↗ will come back to you at a later date

6:51 ↗ for final approval

6:53 ↗ so um there was a summary document that

6:56 ↗ i'd encourage you to read if you haven't

6:57 ↗ had a chance to read

6:59 ↗ which was dated april 13th that was in

7:00 ↗ your packet that

7:02 ↗ is informative is the changes of the ila

7:05 ↗ one of the things that's vitally

7:06 ↗ important to remember is that the ila

7:08 ↗ is the doctrine that we've been living

7:09 ↗ under since 1999

7:11 ↗ and the strong intent of the partners

7:13 ↗ going throughout this process was to

7:14 ↗ maintain as much of the ila as possible

7:17 ↗ our intent was not was not to change the

7:19 ↗ terms necessarily of what's in the ila

7:22 ↗ but just to change what we had to in

7:24 ↗ order to

7:25 ↗ form into an entity that that achieves

7:27 ↗ the goals that we're trying to achieve

7:29 ↗ the goals that we were trying to achieve

7:30 ↗ were these three here

7:32 ↗ first to share the liability for the

7:34 ↗ employer of record currently

7:36 ↗ there is a a mismatch liability that's

7:40 ↗ put on fire district 10.

7:42 ↗ they are the employer of record at the

7:44 ↗ time of the formation of eastside they

7:45 ↗ were by far the largest partner and they

7:47 ↗ were the largest

7:48 ↗ uh financial contributor through

7:50 ↗ annexations throughout the years

7:52 ↗ uh they are no longer the largest

7:53 ↗ partner there's still there's three

7:55 ↗ three of you issaquah some amish in

7:56 ↗ district 10 that are that are similar in

7:58 ↗ size as far as what is paid

8:01 ↗ but uh d10 is no longer that that

8:03 ↗ partner and

8:04 ↗ right now 100 of the employee liability

8:07 ↗ lies with district 10

8:09 ↗ and while they're in the contract it

8:10 ↗ does say that each partner

8:12 ↗ is responsible for their share of the

8:14 ↗ employment liability

8:15 ↗ uh there's nothing to mandate that that

8:18 ↗ wouldn't that couldn't get tied up in

8:19 ↗ the courts

8:20 ↗ uh and whatnot if if there was a falling

8:22 ↗ out of partners in the future

8:24 ↗ and really the intent of the document

8:25 ↗ all along has been that all partners

8:27 ↗ share

8:28 ↗ uh the liability um among each other so

8:31 ↗ we wanted

8:32 ↗ we wanted to shore that up uh with that

8:34 ↗ we wanted to establish a joint entity

8:36 ↗ that could actually own assets as it

8:40 ↗ sits right now

8:41 ↗ we technically do not own anything the

8:43 ↗ desk i'm sitting at the chair i'm

8:45 ↗ sitting at

8:46 ↗ sitting in is technically belongs to one

8:48 ↗ of the partners

8:49 ↗ uh we're we are not allowed to title

8:50 ↗ anything and we're not allowed to

8:53 ↗ own anything without being in a

8:55 ↗ partner's name and on some things that's

8:57 ↗ just fine we have no intention of

8:58 ↗ changing things like fire stations and

9:00 ↗ fire apparatus

9:01 ↗ that'll continue to stay with the

9:02 ↗ partners i think that's an outstanding

9:04 ↗ model to continue with

9:05 ↗ but on the on the other items within the

9:08 ↗ organization that we transition through

9:10 ↗ um you know every three five seven ten

9:12 ↗ years uh it doesn't make any sense to

9:14 ↗ continue to to name those in the name of

9:16 ↗ a partner

9:17 ↗ um if we can put that at the one central

9:19 ↗ agency which would be efer

9:20 ↗ and ether is responsible for those

9:22 ↗ assets and booking those assets and

9:24 ↗ moving things through

9:25 ↗ so that was goal number two

9:28 ↗ and then goal number three was ensuring

9:30 ↗ uh a stable environment for the

9:32 ↗ employees and they remained government

9:33 ↗ employment

9:34 ↗ one of the things that derailed the

9:36 ↗ nonprofit talk back in 2015

9:38 ↗ was a question on whether or not the

9:40 ↗ employees could continue to belong to

9:42 ↗ the public retirement

9:44 ↗ programs that exist were they still

9:46 ↗ public employees and that was not

9:47 ↗ entirely clear

9:48 ↗ uh in the state law that has since been

9:51 ↗ rectified and it is

9:52 ↗ uh our attorneys produced a a statement

9:56 ↗ of record that states exactly how

9:58 ↗ they're covered and in fact we have sat

10:00 ↗ with our

10:01 ↗ three union groups and all agree and are

10:03 ↗ comfortable with

10:05 ↗ uh the fact that they can continue to

10:06 ↗ stay with with the benefits they get now

10:10 ↗ and then lastly as i i've really already

10:12 ↗ touched on this

10:13 ↗ is this is the process that we're

10:14 ↗ looking for right now we have received

10:17 ↗ comments from your attorney

10:18 ↗ um in fact the biggest comment had to do

10:20 ↗ with liability and i just heard back

10:22 ↗ from our attorney today

10:23 ↗ uh there was a mismatch in the liability

10:25 ↗ language between the articles of

10:27 ↗ incorporation

10:28 ↗ and the um ila we are changing the

10:32 ↗ the uh draft articles of incorporations

10:34 ↗ liability or indemnification section

10:36 ↗ to match what what is in the ila to get

10:38 ↗ rid of that discrepancy

10:40 ↗ uh we've received various comments from

10:42 ↗ each entity basically what i would

10:43 ↗ consider cleanup language from the

10:45 ↗ attorneys

10:46 ↗ you are the last group that we have to

10:48 ↗ receive comments back from

10:49 ↗ and the plan is to consider the

10:52 ↗ non-profit

10:53 ↗ from the e for boards perspective at our

10:55 ↗ october 8th meeting

10:56 ↗ if there's nothing significant that

10:58 ↗ needs to be explored and then

11:00 ↗ based on the efer board's action

11:04 ↗ if they refer this to back to you then

11:06 ↗ sometime over the next three months

11:08 ↗ i will be working with your city staff

11:10 ↗ to get back on the city council

11:12 ↗ for final approval this will require the

11:14 ↗ e for board to approve it and then

11:16 ↗ each sub-entity to approve the formation

11:18 ↗ of the non-profit

11:19 ↗ if everything went as smooth as possible

11:22 ↗ we would anticipate

11:23 ↗ implementing the non-profit sometimes

11:24 ↗ toward sometime towards the end of the

11:26 ↗ first quarter in 2021

11:29 ↗ with that i'll be happy to answer any

11:30 ↗ questions that you may have on this

11:32 ↗ subject

11:36 ↗ any question from the council

11:44 ↗ i'm waiting oh

11:47 ↗ well i i know that chief clark did

11:50 ↗ answer a number of

11:51 ↗ questions that had been posed in emails

11:54 ↗ thank you

11:55 ↗ any additional questions for the chief

11:58 ↗ regarding uh

11:59 ↗ formation of the not-for-profit

12:05 ↗ all right chief clark you did an awesome

12:07 ↗ job apparently

12:08 ↗ um so with that um we will move on to

12:11 ↗ the next agenda item which is the um

12:16 ↗ 2021-2022 eastside fire and rescue

12:18 ↗ budget

12:19 ↗ all right thank you and but i'm going to

12:21 ↗ chalk it up to you and council member

12:22 ↗ goodman you must have been keeping the

12:23 ↗ council

12:24 ↗ right through our process so i

12:26 ↗ appreciate it when the system works that

12:27 ↗ well

12:28 ↗ all right i'm going to attempt to share

12:29 ↗ one more time

12:32 ↗ here we go

12:37 ↗ all right are you seeing this one

12:40 ↗ this one doesn't say share on it yet

12:43 ↗ yeah we've got it 20 21 20 23 budget

12:45 ↗ overview

12:46 ↗ big deal it's working okay

12:49 ↗ so before i before i jump into the

12:51 ↗ slides on this one

12:53 ↗ i just want to i want to state where we

12:55 ↗ are and what exactly we're doing right

12:56 ↗ now so

12:57 ↗ back in march we started our internal

13:01 ↗ budget process

13:02 ↗ and in june the e for board referred

13:06 ↗ the budget to the fact the finance and

13:08 ↗ administration committee

13:09 ↗ council member goodman is a member of

13:11 ↗ that committee and in fact um

13:13 ↗ uh council member ray did sit in on a

13:15 ↗ couple of these

13:17 ↗ discussions on the budget as well and

13:20 ↗ we've since had three meetings of the

13:22 ↗ fact

13:22 ↗ and just last week on september 23rd the

13:25 ↗ fact

13:26 ↗ made a referral um of recommendations

13:29 ↗ that i'll go over with on the last slide

13:31 ↗ to the e for board for consideration of

13:33 ↗ the final budget adoption

13:34 ↗ which will take place on october october

13:37 ↗ 8th

13:37 ↗ the purpose of my presentation here is

13:39 ↗ to simply provide you an overview of

13:41 ↗ what we've done to this point

13:42 ↗ i'm going to provide you like i have in

13:44 ↗ previous years the comparison data

13:47 ↗ for issaquah and then i'm going to go

13:49 ↗ over just at a high level

13:51 ↗ what we did with the fact the slides

13:53 ↗ that you received in your packet i don't

13:55 ↗ intend to go over every bullet with you

13:57 ↗ i gladly will go over any bullet or any

13:59 ↗ item that you'd like to do a deeper dive

14:01 ↗ on but i don't want to bore you with

14:02 ↗ things that were in your packet

14:03 ↗ uh but i will answer any questions you

14:05 ↗ may have hey uh

14:07 ↗ clark um i don't know if you intend this

14:09 ↗ but you're you're in uh

14:11 ↗ kind of two slide mode on your uh what

14:13 ↗ you're displaying

14:15 ↗ thank you tisha told me how to do this

14:17 ↗ and i failed her there you go

14:19 ↗ yeah there you go that's still trying to

14:22 ↗ figure out how to make

14:23 ↗ how can i see all of you i got to expand

14:25 ↗ that screen somehow now i can just see

14:27 ↗ you but

14:28 ↗ she told me and i can't remember oh well

14:31 ↗ so yep this is to if you want to

14:34 ↗ you can drag out the corners of the

14:37 ↗ video and

14:38 ↗ should be able to see more of that

14:39 ↗ there's all of my happy people look at

14:41 ↗ them there

14:42 ↗ all right

14:46 ↗ lindsay wins the happiest award right

14:47 ↗ there okay thank you

14:49 ↗ that's better so um so first of all

14:52 ↗ the the comparisons that were in your

14:55 ↗ table

14:55 ↗ uh or in your packet uh these are

14:58 ↗ comparisons that we've updated every

15:00 ↗ uh during every budget the purpose of

15:02 ↗ the type of comparison we do is just to

15:04 ↗ get what is

15:05 ↗ easily transferable and we can compare

15:08 ↗ between entities

15:09 ↗ the purpose is not to show one better

15:10 ↗ than the other it's just to benchmark

15:12 ↗ where we are in the community and

15:14 ↗ in my first year here uh this was the

15:16 ↗ tool that i used just to gauge

15:18 ↗ where east side fire and rescue sits in

15:20 ↗ the market uh just to understand

15:22 ↗ you know were we on the high side

15:24 ↗ staffing wise budget wise

15:26 ↗ i'm coming in from another state it's

15:28 ↗ very difficult just to assess that

15:29 ↗ um just from coming in so this is one of

15:32 ↗ the tools and

15:33 ↗ the the board at the time enjoyed it so

15:35 ↗ i have since included it in my updates

15:36 ↗ with each of the

15:38 ↗ agencies so the reason that we compare

15:40 ↗ budget to av

15:41 ↗ is because of the property tax-based

15:43 ↗ nature of especially king county

15:46 ↗ most of the fire department services

15:48 ↗ whether you're a fire district or an rfa

15:50 ↗ and and yet a city even a city as we

15:52 ↗ look at it you can we can boil it down

15:54 ↗ to

15:55 ↗ cost of operation per thousand as far as

15:58 ↗ the budget goes so

15:59 ↗ that's the purpose of this this is in

16:00 ↗ the fire service here this is kind of an

16:03 ↗ apples-to-apples comparison and when

16:04 ↗ we're comparing we're comparing

16:05 ↗ operating budgets

16:06 ↗ okay but the so what we're seeing here

16:09 ↗ on this first slide continues to be true

16:11 ↗ as as it has been for the last five

16:13 ↗ years is that budget to av

16:16 ↗ efer continues when we're compared to

16:18 ↗ all of the other

16:19 ↗ um large fire departments that are they

16:21 ↗ basically serve more than one

16:22 ↗ jurisdiction they're either through

16:24 ↗ contract or from an rfa or fire district

16:26 ↗ you can see where if we were a fire

16:28 ↗ district what our

16:29 ↗ iav would be in order to provide the

16:31 ↗ operation that we're doing now compared

16:33 ↗ to where everybody else's av is right

16:35 ↗ now

16:37 ↗ another comparison is cost per capita

16:39 ↗ again with those same

16:41 ↗ same group of fire departments where are

16:43 ↗ we what does it cost per capita which i

16:45 ↗ think is pretty self-explanatory to

16:47 ↗ deliver the services that we

16:48 ↗ that we are in this area and the next

16:51 ↗ oh sorry then the last one is the fte so

16:54 ↗ the number of employees that we have

16:56 ↗ um per thousand population um and what

17:00 ↗ we have and compared to those same

17:02 ↗ fire department agencies uh throughout

17:04 ↗ king county and then the largest in

17:05 ↗ snohomish and

17:06 ↗ pierce this takes the same data and

17:10 ↗ simply breaks it down by our

17:12 ↗ city partners and compares you now to

17:15 ↗ all of the city fire departments or all

17:17 ↗ the fire departments that are in our

17:18 ↗ zone

17:19 ↗ and our zone is simply a response area

17:21 ↗ which is north of i-90

17:23 ↗ and east of seattle okay and these are

17:26 ↗ the jurisdictions that we work most

17:28 ↗ often with

17:32 ↗ same thing with fte with that same

17:34 ↗ subset of zone one

17:39 ↗ and same with cost per capita well

17:41 ↗ within that zone

17:46 ↗ and then lastly uh this is looking at

17:48 ↗ king county for three station comparison

17:50 ↗ so these are communities

17:52 ↗ that have three fire stations like

17:53 ↗ issaquah does um located within them

17:56 ↗ and what it costs them from an

17:57 ↗ operations perspective to

17:59 ↗ deliver it you can see there's a wide

18:00 ↗ range of costs

18:02 ↗ for delivering these services which um

18:05 ↗ on some levels can be quite eye-opening

18:08 ↗ how in the world can it cost that much

18:09 ↗ to do to deliver a very similar service

18:11 ↗ and there's lots of nuances to that but

18:13 ↗ um this is always nice to gauge to see

18:15 ↗ where we're at

18:17 ↗ hey uh jeff i have a question from

18:19 ↗ councilmember goodman

18:22 ↗ yes great no uh

18:25 ↗ thank you um stacy here chief could you

18:28 ↗ go back

18:29 ↗ two or three slides i think it was the

18:31 ↗ comparison avs

18:33 ↗ of the cities this one here yeah

18:36 ↗ can you explain that a little bit more

18:39 ↗ please

18:40 ↗ yes i will i'll do my best this this is

18:43 ↗ again this is would be basically if you

18:45 ↗ were a property tax-based model

18:47 ↗ um because because fire districts and

18:49 ↗ rfa so predominant

18:51 ↗ predominantly the fire departments

18:52 ↗ within the within

18:54 ↗ actually the state of washington are

18:56 ↗ funded through a property tax message so

18:58 ↗ they compare with av

18:59 ↗ basically what does it cost a thousand

19:02 ↗ of assessed valuation

19:04 ↗ to deliver the service okay so most fire

19:07 ↗ districts have taxing authority of up to

19:09 ↗ a dollar fifty

19:11 ↗ uh they can implement a fire benefit

19:13 ↗ charge like district 10 does to go above

19:15 ↗ that dollar fifty or they can ask for

19:17 ↗ overrides

19:18 ↗ to get above the dollar fifty but most

19:21 ↗ uh if you're a volunteer fire department

19:23 ↗ only you can only go up to a dollar

19:25 ↗ so what you're seeing here are those

19:27 ↗ agencies

19:29 ↗ comparatively so shoreline for instance

19:31 ↗ is a fire district they operate

19:32 ↗ on an av program they also have a fire

19:35 ↗ benefit charge

19:36 ↗ it costs them a dollar ninety three uh

19:39 ↗ per thousand evaluation

19:41 ↗ in order to deliver that service in

19:42 ↗ shoreline uh

19:44 ↗ issaquah is if you were a property tax

19:47 ↗ if you were

19:48 ↗ to take what you do today and transfer

19:50 ↗ that to a property tax-based system

19:52 ↗ the budget to av we would be paying the

19:54 ↗ equivalent of 65 cents

19:56 ↗ i say we because i live here too in iso

19:58 ↗ so this is not saying that

20:01 ↗ what we pay our contribution

20:05 ↗ to east side fire

20:08 ↗ um whatever that is is does not this

20:11 ↗ doesn't this

20:12 ↗ this is not saying that that that

20:13 ↗ equates to 65 cents per thousand

20:17 ↗ yes that is what it's saying that is

20:19 ↗ what it's saying this is taking what

20:20 ↗ your operating cost is for this

20:22 ↗ for your fire service which is us so

20:24 ↗ your payment to us

20:26 ↗ and taking that taking the av and

20:28 ↗ issaquah and it determines what that is

20:30 ↗ yes that's exactly what it's saying and

20:33 ↗ when if

20:33 ↗ when efer is operating on 80 cents

20:36 ↗ that's um that's because we have five

20:39 ↗ different

20:40 ↗ members and so there's it's an average

20:43 ↗ or

20:44 ↗ that's blending it among everybody so

20:46 ↗ that's taking the av of all five

20:47 ↗ partners

20:48 ↗ and the operating of all five partners

20:50 ↗ to come up with 80

20:51 ↗ and then you and sammamish specifically

20:53 ↗ and even north bend

20:54 ↗ well north bend's a little bit higher

20:56 ↗ than the average but you and sammamish

20:57 ↗ because of your concentrated av and your

21:00 ↗ contribution of a b to the overall

21:03 ↗ then you come out a little better than

21:04 ↗ that 80 cents i always learned something

21:07 ↗ thank you you're welcome

21:10 ↗ great now councilmember walsh i

21:12 ↗ apologize i missed your comment the

21:14 ↗ first time

21:15 ↗ um go ahead no worries this is

21:17 ↗ councilmember wolfe

21:18 ↗ um clark my question's actually on that

21:21 ↗ same slide as well

21:23 ↗ and that's my cat joining in um

21:27 ↗ can you explain why issaquah

21:30 ↗ with a smaller population and a

21:34 ↗ smaller total size

21:37 ↗ than sammamish has a higher

21:41 ↗ cost here when it comes to budget per av

21:46 ↗ so this is looking at total av and then

21:49 ↗ the budget

21:50 ↗ the operating budget that you pay so as

21:52 ↗ if we were going to raise those taxes

21:53 ↗ from

21:54 ↗ property taxes okay it's basically what

21:55 ↗ it's looking at the

21:57 ↗ the reason is their av is much higher

22:00 ↗ than what isoquaz is your cost of

22:02 ↗ operation

22:03 ↗ i think is within four hundred thousand

22:05 ↗ like we can check at a later slide but i

22:07 ↗ think you're within four hundred

22:08 ↗ thousand of each other

22:09 ↗ but their av is proportionally much

22:11 ↗ higher which is going to bring down

22:13 ↗ um their cost per thousand because they

22:15 ↗ have more thousands in there does that

22:17 ↗ make sense

22:21 ↗ yes so i'm just trying to understand

22:24 ↗ that

22:24 ↗ from an understanding of our community

22:26 ↗ considering the number of

22:28 ↗ businesses and you know costco

22:30 ↗ headquarters and

22:31 ↗ all of that for av versus

22:35 ↗ housing but i guess it probably comes

22:37 ↗ down to number

22:38 ↗ it just yeah if i'm to go off memory

22:41 ↗ which is all i have because

22:42 ↗ unfortunately i don't have that data

22:43 ↗ sitting in front of me

22:44 ↗ i want to say the av in some amish is in

22:48 ↗ the

22:49 ↗ maybe in the 24 billion dollar range and

22:52 ↗ you are in uh

22:54 ↗ 16-ish um so there's a

22:57 ↗ there's basically uh there's just a

23:00 ↗ difference in the av

23:02 ↗ uh there you on the other side of things

23:04 ↗ if we were to look at the call volume

23:06 ↗ and some of the other metrics uh that

23:08 ↗ aren't included in this

23:10 ↗ you would see that you have a higher

23:11 ↗ call volume and you have a more complex

23:14 ↗ um type of community because of the

23:16 ↗ commercial you sight more apartments

23:18 ↗ you're you're more condensed not as

23:20 ↗ sprawled out as say some amish

23:22 ↗ is so and of course they have a higher

23:23 ↗ population most of their population is

23:25 ↗ family

23:26 ↗ your population is a little bit more

23:28 ↗ mixed and your populations also

23:30 ↗ spread along the socioeconomic scale

23:32 ↗ more than what sammamish is

23:34 ↗ so there are lots of things to compare

23:36 ↗ and that's why we kind of pick out the

23:37 ↗ ones that

23:38 ↗ make the most sense where it's easier to

23:40 ↗ get the uniformity so we're kind of

23:41 ↗ comparing apples to apples

23:44 ↗ thank you

23:48 ↗ councilmember marks you had a question

23:50 ↗ i'm not going to leave but thank you

23:51 ↗ council that council deputy president um

23:53 ↗ this is council member mark

23:55 ↗ i think you may have answered in the

23:57 ↗ last 30 seconds of that answer you may

23:59 ↗ have answered my question

24:00 ↗ do you have budget per capita for some

24:03 ↗ amish and issaquah

24:04 ↗ in one of your charts instead of budget

24:06 ↗ per ab

24:08 ↗ this this right here is budget per

24:10 ↗ capita

24:11 ↗ okay on this one there's 62

24:15 ↗ 000 people in some amish roughly and

24:18 ↗ there's 30

24:20 ↗ 33 34 000 in in issaquah

24:24 ↗ you're at 40 stacy i see you so whatever

24:27 ↗ number

24:28 ↗ was and what i do is i have a i have a

24:30 ↗ fire department guide that's published

24:31 ↗ by the state chiefs every year

24:32 ↗ and i go to the same place for the for

24:34 ↗ the av data the population data

24:37 ↗ that's where i draw it from and so they

24:40 ↗ they're basically they have twenty

24:41 ↗ thousand twenty five thousand more

24:43 ↗ residency to do

24:44 ↗ in a very similar budget so that's why

24:46 ↗ their cost per capita is so much lower

24:49 ↗ um at this time so so let me ask the

24:52 ↗ question differently

24:53 ↗ first of all let me not lose the forest

24:55 ↗ for the trees

24:56 ↗ this is great you know all these charts

24:59 ↗ your fiscal

25:00 ↗ uh responsibility in e4 is really great

25:03 ↗ and these charts really show when

25:04 ↗ compared to other

25:05 ↗ northeast king county uh folks um

25:09 ↗ how how how what what judicious stewards

25:12 ↗ you are

25:13 ↗ with our money but again to compare

25:15 ↗ ourselves to our friends to the north

25:16 ↗ i got i got the per av because of course

25:20 ↗ spanish is the most affluent community

25:22 ↗ in washington state

25:23 ↗ so i get that but i it's not as obvious

25:26 ↗ to me

25:27 ↗ given that we have a smaller population

25:30 ↗ why we wouldn't

25:30 ↗ have a smaller expenditure and

25:34 ↗ you started you started to say at the

25:35 ↗ end of your answer

25:37 ↗ uh to council member walsh but i want to

25:39 ↗ understand a little better you talked

25:40 ↗ about social economic spread

25:42 ↗ which i'm not sure why that would be

25:44 ↗ make a difference and

25:46 ↗ uh and the nature of the calls

25:49 ↗ yeah so and and again i apologize and i

25:52 ↗ can certainly follow up with this and we

25:53 ↗ could do a deeper dive on that

25:55 ↗ your call volume in comparison to some

25:57 ↗ amish again i'm going to use round

25:59 ↗ numbers

25:59 ↗ we have this in our board report every

26:01 ↗ month but your call volume is probably

26:04 ↗ close to

26:04 ↗ um not quite two to one but

26:08 ↗ you're significantly more call volume

26:10 ↗ here than what they have in some amish

26:12 ↗ so mamash is more of

26:13 ↗ a bedroom style community where you have

26:15 ↗ more of the mixed use

26:16 ↗ you have outdoor spaces you have

26:19 ↗ commercial and industry you have the

26:21 ↗ freeway running right through

26:22 ↗ so a lot of call generation areas in

26:25 ↗ comparison to sammamish

26:27 ↗ the formula that one of you asked me a

26:29 ↗ question from that i followed up with

26:31 ↗ and i believe all of you received it

26:32 ↗ the funding formula which is something

26:34 ↗ that um

26:35 ↗ the board is wanting to discuss in the

26:38 ↗ spring of 2021

26:39 ↗ is largely based on assessed valuation

26:44 ↗ and call volume so the funding for me

26:46 ↗ and i the reason i brought up the slide

26:47 ↗ that's on your screen right now

26:49 ↗ to show what some amish and issaquah pay

26:51 ↗ the difference between the two of you

26:53 ↗ um the the reason those numbers are

26:56 ↗ based on av

26:58 ↗ and um call volume in a

27:01 ↗ very detailed um

27:04 ↗ comparison going down to the station

27:06 ↗ level and parcel level

27:08 ↗ um which is pretty complex but that's

27:10 ↗ where those numbers come from where

27:11 ↗ when we go back to this price per capita

27:13 ↗ this is simply

27:14 ↗ this is simply taking what you pay and

27:16 ↗ dividing by the population

27:18 ↗ and it comes up with a general number

27:20 ↗ for us to do again to the best of our

27:22 ↗ ability and apples to apples comparison

27:24 ↗ um within the partnership ourselves this

27:27 ↗ is where we need to do

27:29 ↗ a deeper dive on conversations about how

27:31 ↗ do we split up that apple and how do we

27:33 ↗ pay that up when

27:34 ↗ you know things like population or area

27:36 ↗ covered

27:37 ↗ are not in the formula and i'm not

27:39 ↗ advocating for that but

27:40 ↗ there are things that for whatever

27:41 ↗ reason this formula predates i think

27:43 ↗ everybody here

27:44 ↗ because it really goes all the way back

27:45 ↗ to 1999 there's not a lot of it

27:48 ↗ a lot in the formula it's changed since

27:50 ↗ 1999

27:51 ↗ but when they created it they settled on

27:53 ↗ these two metrics and their their system

27:55 ↗ i've never seen anything like this

27:57 ↗ from a formula standpoint like i said it

27:59 ↗ is very complex

28:00 ↗ and that also makes it um i heard it

28:02 ↗ best phrase to me by the

28:04 ↗ the samantha city manager recently in a

28:06 ↗ conversation is it's a zero-sum game

28:08 ↗ if we do something to change the formula

28:10 ↗ there's only and there's still only five

28:12 ↗ partners

28:13 ↗ someone's paying it and anything you

28:15 ↗ shift off of one is going to go to the

28:16 ↗ other which makes it a little

28:17 ↗ a little dicey the way to change it is

28:19 ↗ of course if there was another partner

28:20 ↗ who could come in and that would be a

28:22 ↗ nice synergy to change things but

28:24 ↗ right now that climate just doesn't

28:25 ↗ exist out there that we're aware of

28:28 ↗ thank you that answered my question all

28:30 ↗ right you're welcome

28:31 ↗ anything else before we move on i don't

28:35 ↗ see any other questions so

28:37 ↗ let's uh let's move on thank you

28:40 ↗ all right next um i just want to get

28:42 ↗ into basically i'm going to try to do

28:43 ↗ the same

28:44 ↗ uh overview that i gave the fact in a

28:46 ↗ very condensed version

28:48 ↗ and i'm going to try to recognize that

28:50 ↗ many of you don't aren't in our meetings

28:52 ↗ so if i use a term or something you're

28:54 ↗ not used to please stop me and i'll

28:55 ↗ gladly clarify it revenue is where we're

28:58 ↗ going to have some of the

28:59 ↗ the biggest changes that we've had in

29:01 ↗ our budget i'll i'll do a deeper dive

29:03 ↗ on the transport here in a second the

29:06 ↗ ems levy

29:07 ↗ every uh if you recall back in november

29:10 ↗ you renewed the king county residents

29:12 ↗ renewed

29:13 ↗ the king county ems levy for medic one

29:16 ↗ from that levy

29:17 ↗ we receive just over two million dollars

29:19 ↗ a year

29:20 ↗ so we have that revenue coming in for

29:22 ↗ the next six years since that was a six

29:23 ↗ year levy

29:24 ↗ that levy has been continuously approved

29:27 ↗ since

29:27 ↗ uh the early 70s so it's a fairly stable

29:30 ↗ source of revenue for us and it's

29:32 ↗ certainly stable for the next

29:33 ↗ uh five years uh ems transport and gemt

29:37 ↗ i'll get into in a later slide a little

29:39 ↗ bit deeper dive on that

29:41 ↗ brycer compliance engine is a new

29:43 ↗ revenue stream that we implemented last

29:45 ↗ budget

29:46 ↗ it accounts for almost twenty thousand

29:47 ↗ dollars worth of revenue uh this is

29:49 ↗ basically

29:50 ↗ um a system that helps us gain

29:52 ↗ compliance from the

29:55 ↗ business inspection systems that we do

29:58 ↗ and it

29:59 ↗ and it clears up is basically each

30:02 ↗ business is pa

30:03 ↗ pays a rate for somebody to come in and

30:04 ↗ do their inspection and this is a filing

30:06 ↗ system and brycer

30:08 ↗ um stabilizes the collection and makes

30:11 ↗ sure that we stay on time without having

30:12 ↗ to send

30:13 ↗ inspectors out all the time to maintain

30:15 ↗ these things the snoqualmie tribe

30:18 ↗ is a contract that was negotiated in

30:19 ↗ 2015

30:21 ↗ we provide services there you'll see

30:23 ↗ that that's been a fixed dollar amount

30:25 ↗ we

30:25 ↗ are due to renegotiate that in 2022

30:28 ↗ and um we actually started conversations

30:31 ↗ with the tribe this past year about an

30:33 ↗ escalator

30:34 ↗ there is an escalator in there but it's

30:35 ↗ kind of outdated because it's tied to av

30:38 ↗ and av because their sovereign nation av

30:40 ↗ is not assessed on it on their

30:42 ↗ um lands so we were working through that

30:44 ↗ then covid hit

30:46 ↗ and obviously the tribe is hit they were

30:48 ↗ closed down for some time so they're

30:50 ↗ they're recuperating and we'll start

30:51 ↗ those conversations back up

30:53 ↗ uh once we are uh post covet or at least

30:56 ↗ at a point where we can sit down and

30:57 ↗ start having conversations

30:59 ↗ and then uh as a reminder we'll get to

31:02 ↗ end fund balance

31:03 ↗ towards the end of the presentation as

31:04 ↗ well there are two policy directives

31:06 ↗ that the e4 board adopted uh

31:08 ↗ five years ago one is to fully fund the

31:10 ↗ liability reserve this is a reserve

31:13 ↗ that provides us some uh coverage for

31:16 ↗ vacation and sick leave banks as

31:18 ↗ well as the cost of hiring

31:21 ↗ new firefighters for the six first six

31:23 ↗ month transition period

31:24 ↗ and then fully funding our 10 operating

31:26 ↗ fund contingency reserve

31:29 ↗ all right so on revenue um this slide is

31:31 ↗ a bit redundant with one of them that i

31:33 ↗ provided to the fact in a later slide

31:34 ↗ but i'll just take a minute to talk

31:36 ↗ about ems transports and you'll see

31:37 ↗ there was a significant increase in ems

31:39 ↗ transports

31:40 ↗ we actually started experiencing this

31:42 ↗ increase in 2019

31:45 ↗ we implemented our first biennial budget

31:46 ↗ in for 19 and 20

31:48 ↗ and so in 2018 when we were planning

31:50 ↗ this

31:51 ↗ gemt or the ground emergency medi

31:54 ↗ medical transport program was just

31:55 ↗ adopted by the state legislature

31:58 ↗ efer enrolled as part of the first wave

32:00 ↗ of agencies to enroll in this

32:02 ↗ this is a program that

32:06 ↗ for public agencies to receive full

32:09 ↗ reimbursement for the cost of actually

32:11 ↗ delivering the service from all patients

32:12 ↗ that are insured by medicaid

32:15 ↗ right medicaid is the state version that

32:17 ↗ is funded through the medicare system uh

32:19 ↗ nationally but each state runs a

32:21 ↗ medicaid system

32:23 ↗ in washington we have the state medicaid

32:25 ↗ and the state legislatures in

32:27 ↗ previous to 2018 i think it was actually

32:29 ↗ in 2016

32:30 ↗ approved the state law it was

32:32 ↗ implemented in 2018 and

32:34 ↗ through rule making and we were taking a

32:36 ↗ shot in the dark at what the revenue

32:38 ↗ would be so we actually didn't book the

32:39 ↗ revenue

32:40 ↗ but we knew we would have some revenue

32:41 ↗ coming in for the 1920 budget year

32:44 ↗ when we got into 19 we found out through

32:46 ↗ rulemaking that they were

32:48 ↗ going to start paying us for

32:51 ↗ services that were rendered in half of

32:53 ↗ 17 and all of 18. and those were coming

32:56 ↗ in as lump sum checks

32:58 ↗ so in the mid biennium we reported to

33:01 ↗ the board the excess revenue that was

33:03 ↗ coming in from this program

33:05 ↗ and it was decided um we addressed some

33:07 ↗ needs in the mid biennium and then it

33:09 ↗ was decided to hold the revenue

33:12 ↗ for this budget process that we're in

33:14 ↗ right now to decide what to do with what

33:16 ↗ is

33:16 ↗ essentially end fund balance as a result

33:18 ↗ of the revenue and now what you're

33:20 ↗ seeing on this ems transport line

33:22 ↗ is we now have a year and a half of

33:25 ↗ actual collections from the gemt program

33:28 ↗ and what

33:29 ↗ i am comfortable recommending that we

33:31 ↗ can actually book as ongoing revenue

33:33 ↗ from the gemt program

33:35 ↗ and that there while there is a small

33:36 ↗ uptick in call volume that is

33:38 ↗ represented in these numbers

33:39 ↗ the lion's share of these collections

33:41 ↗ are coming from the gemt

33:42 ↗ program now the gmt program

33:46 ↗ is a significant change we we charge

33:48 ↗ right now 820 dollars for

33:50 ↗ a transport the medicaid program

33:54 ↗ uh gemt for every medicaid patient we

33:56 ↗ transport

33:57 ↗ we are charging every year it changes a

33:59 ↗ little bit but we're basically charging

34:01 ↗ 7 900

34:02 ↗ to the medicaid system which is the

34:05 ↗ actual cost

34:06 ↗ of the transport from a form that is

34:08 ↗ filled out uniformly by everybody that

34:10 ↗ is in this program

34:12 ↗ and verified by the washington state

34:14 ↗ health care authority

34:15 ↗ we submit that annually in order to stay

34:17 ↗ enrolled in the program

34:19 ↗ so uh ideally we would be receiving

34:23 ↗ what the actual cost of a transport is

34:25 ↗ from all revenue sources

34:27 ↗ but medicaid is the only one that's

34:28 ↗ there now what i have said i said to the

34:30 ↗ board early on about

34:31 ↗ g e m t my biggest concern about gemt

34:35 ↗ revenue source

34:36 ↗ is that it is federally funded through

34:38 ↗ the state of course

34:39 ↗ uh but washington at the time that we

34:41 ↗ adopted this in 2016

34:44 ↗ was the third or fourth state to adopt

34:45 ↗ it in the nation there's now more than a

34:47 ↗ dozen

34:48 ↗ states that have adopted this program

34:50 ↗ and it's continuing to

34:52 ↗ to climb i don't know how stable this

34:55 ↗ source will be in three four

34:56 ↗ five six seven years when there's 50

34:59 ↗ states collecting at this level compared

35:01 ↗ to what medicaid was paying out in the

35:03 ↗ neighborhood of two hundred and twenty

35:04 ↗ dollars of transport

35:05 ↗ uh prior to this so um i've been assured

35:08 ↗ by everybody i talked to oh no the

35:10 ↗ funding's there they know these programs

35:11 ↗ are coming

35:12 ↗ uh but i i'm gonna continue to have that

35:15 ↗ on the back of my mind and will continue

35:17 ↗ to remind all of you

35:19 ↗ about the potential instability of this

35:21 ↗ funding as more states adopted

35:23 ↗ and of course the election will have a

35:24 ↗ big deal to do with this based on the

35:26 ↗ direction that the country takes

35:29 ↗ on universal health care and this

35:32 ↗ all started with obama the adoption of

35:34 ↗ obamacare

35:36 ↗ and changing and how medical transports

35:37 ↗ are collected for agencies

35:39 ↗ um and it can all change of course if

35:42 ↗ there's a if there's a change in

35:43 ↗ direction but for the next two years

35:44 ↗ we're certainly comfortable with this

35:46 ↗ the gemt line that you see there we put

35:49 ↗ a plug of 75 000 in 2018

35:52 ↗ to simply we knew we were going to get

35:53 ↗ gmt revenue but we had no way to gauge

35:55 ↗ what that would be

35:57 ↗ we're not using that independent line

35:59 ↗ but i wanted to leave it in there so you

36:00 ↗ can see why there was a change from 20

36:02 ↗ to 21

36:03 ↗ and now it's all rolled into actual

36:05 ↗ transport collections

36:07 ↗ so long winded that will be my longest

36:08 ↗ winded description of the evening i

36:10 ↗ promise but if there's any questions

36:12 ↗ specifically on that i'd be happy to

36:13 ↗ answer them

36:16 ↗ [Music]

36:20 ↗ all right then moving on

36:23 ↗ so this next one is again the

36:26 ↗ reference in the box is what was

36:28 ↗ recommended from

36:30 ↗ the faq to the board on october 18th

36:33 ↗ and this demonstrates the um

36:36 ↗ partner share of contributions in 21 and

36:38 ↗ 22. i should have stated early on

36:41 ↗ that the board gave me direction at the

36:43 ↗ early onset of the budget

36:44 ↗ that because of covid 19 hitting that we

36:47 ↗ needed to keep the budget as flat as

36:49 ↗ possible

36:49 ↗ uh there are a num i'm currently in

36:51 ↗ negotiations for three cbas

36:54 ↗ um two of which are with arbitration

36:56 ↗ eligible unions

36:58 ↗ uh that i have been briefing the board

36:59 ↗ with during in executive sessions

37:01 ↗ monthly

37:02 ↗ and we will have a robust executive

37:03 ↗ session in october we don't have

37:05 ↗ conclusion with those so

37:07 ↗ i basically have some plug numbers um in

37:10 ↗ these

37:11 ↗ numbers right now but what we asked to

37:12 ↗ have adopted in october

37:14 ↗ of course will be what we live by uh

37:16 ↗ moving into 21 and 22

37:18 ↗ so but there are a few question marks

37:20 ↗ like uh collective bargaining

37:22 ↗ and uh there's still a few items out

37:25 ↗ like l and i

37:25 ↗ some norcom fees that we don't know the

37:27 ↗ exact dollar amounts but again we have a

37:29 ↗ pretty good idea

37:30 ↗ of what we're projecting uh what you'll

37:33 ↗ notice in

37:34 ↗ in these projections is the equipment

37:36 ↗ replacement fund and the capital

37:38 ↗ facilities fund

37:39 ↗ uh we have not we are not asking the

37:41 ↗ partners to fund

37:43 ↗ uh as i was just i described to the faq

37:45 ↗ and is in your packets

37:46 ↗ we have rebalanced the equipment

37:48 ↗ replacement fund and um

37:50 ↗ i'm fully satisfied that we have a

37:52 ↗ 15-year balanced program

37:54 ↗ and that we can do without contributions

37:56 ↗ to that plan

37:57 ↗ in 21 or 22 we will have to start those

38:00 ↗ contributions back

38:01 ↗ up in 23 but with the uncertainty of

38:05 ↗ kovid

38:05 ↗ and partners wanting to keep things flat

38:08 ↗ so that you could take care of your

38:09 ↗ other

38:10 ↗ financial priorities while hopefully we

38:12 ↗ climb out of whatever

38:13 ↗ impacts covet has we can provide relief

38:16 ↗ there

38:17 ↗ the capital facilities and maintenance

38:18 ↗ fund a little bit different

38:20 ↗ yep hey jeff we have a quick question

38:23 ↗ from council member dean michelle

38:25 ↗ oh remember d michelle thank you um just

38:28 ↗ what is the cpa

38:30 ↗ i'm sorry collective bargaining

38:31 ↗ agreement with uh with the unions yes

38:33 ↗ okay thank you thanks for keeping me

38:36 ↗ honest there i go using my abbreviations

38:38 ↗ again

38:39 ↗ uh the capital facility maintenance fund

38:42 ↗ little different we have a a fund

38:44 ↗ balance there we assess the fund balance

38:46 ↗ we can um we charted out the actual

38:50 ↗ uh items that we have to address for the

38:52 ↗ next three years

38:54 ↗ we have enough fund balance to handle

38:55 ↗ that the other thing

38:57 ↗ in the capital facilities when i was

38:58 ↗ doing the review there

39:00 ↗ there has been a formulatic um increase

39:03 ↗ to that

39:04 ↗ that's somewhat arbitrary uh it's not

39:06 ↗ really tied to any real projects so when

39:08 ↗ we come

39:09 ↗ back in 23 there will have to be a

39:11 ↗ requirement there but it's

39:13 ↗ going to be based on the actual projects

39:15 ↗ we have to do as opposed to

39:16 ↗ there's basically been a number that's

39:18 ↗ been growing by three percent for the

39:19 ↗ past 20 years in that fund

39:21 ↗ um and once we did a deeper dive it

39:23 ↗ wasn't actually tied to projects which

39:25 ↗ doesn't make much sense so we're

39:26 ↗ we took this as an opportunity to learn

39:28 ↗ something else about ourselves and when

39:29 ↗ we come back in 23 that

39:31 ↗ that fund will look much different but

39:33 ↗ we'll we'll get into that

39:34 ↗ in 23.

39:39 ↗ and then uh this is just another way of

39:41 ↗ demonstrating we've talked about revenue

39:43 ↗ already

39:43 ↗ which is um the non-partner revenue

39:45 ↗ which is down below

39:46 ↗ and the partner revenue comparison um is

39:49 ↗ above this is a standard table that i've

39:51 ↗ shown every year to

39:52 ↗ to the uh partners

39:58 ↗ all right i discussed that our priority

40:00 ↗ is to keep the budget flat

40:02 ↗ and to maintain current service levels i

40:04 ↗ received a few questions from some of

40:06 ↗ you and from some of our other partners

40:07 ↗ about

40:08 ↗ various programs when when i interpret a

40:11 ↗ flat budget i try to

40:13 ↗ interpret that as we're going to do

40:14 ↗ everything we can to maintain our

40:16 ↗ critical services

40:17 ↗ it does not mean we're walking away from

40:19 ↗ other programs that we're doing but it

40:20 ↗ does mean that we may not be able to

40:22 ↗ handle them

40:22 ↗ at the same level or the same pace that

40:25 ↗ we were

40:26 ↗ handling it if the budgets were to be

40:28 ↗ able to be inflated to handle the right

40:31 ↗ the costs that that increase

40:33 ↗ incrementally or some of the resources

40:34 ↗ that we shipped

40:36 ↗ so i'll give a few examples of those uh

40:38 ↗ on on the next slide

40:40 ↗ you'll see again i'm not going to get

40:41 ↗ into each one of these strategies unless

40:43 ↗ you'd like me to expand on any of them

40:45 ↗ but these are some of the deeper dives

40:46 ↗ that we did with the fact

40:48 ↗ to describe uh some of the issues that

40:51 ↗ we see within these strategies

40:53 ↗ and they informed what we heard back

40:55 ↗ from the fact informed what our final

40:57 ↗ recommendation to the fact and

40:58 ↗ ultimately to the board would be

41:03 ↗ and these are a list of those programs

41:04 ↗ that are listed as some things that we

41:07 ↗ i had on my list that in this budget

41:09 ↗ year we would have liked to address in a

41:10 ↗ different way than what we're able to

41:12 ↗ now

41:13 ↗ um and just to to be fully informed uh

41:16 ↗ on what we're kind of missing out on i

41:19 ↗ wanted to list some of those programs

41:20 ↗ and i'll highlight a few

41:21 ↗ first of all i was asked specifically

41:22 ↗ about the firewise program

41:24 ↗ i was actually just up in some amish

41:26 ↗ today meeting with two neighborhood

41:27 ↗ associations about the firewise program

41:30 ↗ i fully anticipate that we will continue

41:32 ↗ to move forward with this and what

41:33 ↗ firewise is

41:35 ↗ is a wildland prevention program what do

41:37 ↗ you do

41:38 ↗ with your personal property to ensure

41:40 ↗ that if we do have a wildland sweep

41:42 ↗ through the area

41:43 ↗ that the property damage that your house

41:45 ↗ sustains is minimized

41:47 ↗ and really the only way to control that

41:48 ↗ is to have a property

41:50 ↗ a program like firewise and be

41:53 ↗ advocating for it and informing

41:55 ↗ citizens how they can properly fire

41:58 ↗ protect

41:59 ↗ uh their community and on labor day we

42:01 ↗ had a double house fire

42:03 ↗ up in uh sammamish that started in a

42:05 ↗ shed it actually spread between two

42:07 ↗ homes one was a shake shingle roof

42:09 ↗ which is absolutely the worst type of

42:11 ↗ roof you can have

42:12 ↗ in a fire situation the fire spreads

42:16 ↗ very very quickly from a shake shingle

42:17 ↗ route makes it very hard for us to

42:20 ↗ keep up with and there was a tree that

42:22 ↗ was touching both roof lines

42:23 ↗ on the side of the fire at this on this

42:26 ↗ property

42:27 ↗ the homeowners are highly motivated to

42:29 ↗ see firewise take off and we also have

42:31 ↗ some residents in issaquah that we were

42:32 ↗ meeting with pre covid

42:34 ↗ and coordinated some meetings with that

42:36 ↗ we had to put some larger meetings on

42:37 ↗ hold because of covid

42:39 ↗ we intend to continue those but the

42:42 ↗ level of firewise coordination that i

42:44 ↗ was hoping to get to

42:45 ↗ we will not be able to get to but we'll

42:47 ↗ continue to channel what staff resources

42:49 ↗ we can to this program

42:51 ↗ it is of utmost importance to us

42:54 ↗ second only to our response

42:57 ↗ responsibilities

42:58 ↗ but of course uh our response to

43:00 ↗ responsibilities is where we need to

43:01 ↗ continue our emergency response where we

43:03 ↗ need to continue to focus

43:04 ↗ um our energies uh

43:07 ↗ yes we have a question from council

43:09 ↗ member marks

43:10 ↗ all right thank you council deputy

43:14 ↗ president um

43:15 ↗ so i'm i'm just wondering what more

43:19 ↗ i feel like there's more we should do on

43:21 ↗ on firewise

43:22 ↗ this is the topic we've been talking

43:23 ↗ about for a number of years

43:25 ↗ um i remember vividly the state fire

43:28 ↗ marshal

43:29 ↗ a number of years ago saying issaquah

43:30 ↗ was the poster child

43:32 ↗ for while urban wildland interface fires

43:35 ↗ and i take that very seriously living

43:37 ↗ adjacent to a king county open space

43:40 ↗ but you know just to use my house for an

43:42 ↗ example

43:43 ↗ i couldn't meet firewise without without

43:45 ↗ cutting down a whole bunch of big trees

43:48 ↗ right right firewise as it's written for

43:50 ↗ the dry side

43:51 ↗ doesn't really you can't fully do it

43:54 ↗ here

43:54 ↗ unless you're going to cut down a bunch

43:56 ↗ of trees and that's not i'm you know

43:57 ↗ that's not going to happen

43:58 ↗ for a number of reasons so what can what

44:00 ↗ can we do more to prepare ourselves

44:03 ↗ every time in summer you hear about a

44:05 ↗ house fire evidently on the on this side

44:07 ↗ of the path

44:08 ↗ house fires are the leading cause of

44:10 ↗ wildfires on the other side of the past

44:11 ↗ my understanding is it's

44:13 ↗ it's uh uh lightning but

44:16 ↗ what can we do more and how can issaquah

44:19 ↗ do more as a council

44:21 ↗ okay so a great question and this is uh

44:23 ↗ some dialogue

44:24 ↗ i'd love to continue to keep having as

44:27 ↗ the year goes on as well

44:28 ↗ there's a lot we can do and i think

44:30 ↗ first on your first example

44:32 ↗ of the trees that is um a head-to-head

44:35 ↗ clash that is going to occur in all of

44:37 ↗ our communities on this side

44:39 ↗ we don't want to take down trees and it

44:41 ↗ does clash with

44:42 ↗ having a fire safe community how we

44:46 ↗ maintain those trees there's tremendous

44:47 ↗ things we can do by keeping the tree

44:48 ↗ limbs up making sure that the ladder

44:50 ↗ fuels be

44:51 ↗ the fuels below the tree cannot ladder

44:53 ↗ up to the branch level

44:55 ↗ keeping uh keeping bush bushes and

44:59 ↗ and garden vegetation away from our

45:00 ↗ house in 30 feet so there's a number of

45:02 ↗ things we can do

45:04 ↗ the where things cost money when it

45:07 ↗ comes to this is really the advocacy and

45:10 ↗ the information and connecting

45:12 ↗ people in groups and that means staff to

45:15 ↗ coordinate meetings run meetings hoa

45:19 ↗ i had a great conversation with mayor

45:21 ↗ pauley

45:22 ↗ earlier in the year about doing

45:24 ↗ basically clean up days but rather than

45:26 ↗ having cleanup days just have

45:27 ↗ firefighters in several neighborhoods

45:30 ↗ have the city

45:31 ↗ city public works perhaps driving around

45:33 ↗ with some some of their larger trucks to

45:35 ↗ help haul brush away

45:37 ↗ and informing citizens how to clean up

45:38 ↗ but doing those cleanup days and really

45:41 ↗ managing the forest is what is going to

45:44 ↗ keep us from wildfire as far as starts

45:46 ↗ go

45:47 ↗ um i would i would agree with house

45:49 ↗ fires as a start

45:50 ↗ car fires along the freeway here are

45:52 ↗ what really concern us

45:55 ↗ there are a number of times each and

45:57 ↗ every summer that we

45:59 ↗ come up on a car accident on 90 anywhere

46:01 ↗ along 90

46:03 ↗ and it's accompanied with a fire and

46:04 ↗ depending on how dry and what the

46:06 ↗ how low the humidity is that fire's

46:09 ↗ already running up the hill

46:10 ↗ and those are those things highly

46:12 ↗ concern me

46:13 ↗ but then think back just to a couple of

46:15 ↗ weeks ago to pierce county on the bonnie

46:17 ↗ lake fire that occurred

46:19 ↗ on that afternoon we had the perfect

46:21 ↗ conditions on our side of the mountain

46:22 ↗ as well

46:23 ↗ what they had was wind for whatever

46:25 ↗ reason the wind did not come over to

46:27 ↗ isquazamish

46:28 ↗ and north bend and the wind blew over

46:31 ↗ power lines

46:32 ↗ throughout the south king county and

46:33 ↗ north pierce county area

46:35 ↗ and started a number of brush fires

46:37 ↗ enumclaw which is a small volunteer

46:39 ↗ department

46:40 ↗ they have one engine they are from 11

46:43 ↗ o'clock at night to six o'clock in the

46:44 ↗ morning that night they ran 23 brush

46:46 ↗ fire calls

46:47 ↗ because of downed power lines if we had

46:49 ↗ a similar event in the issaquah

46:51 ↗ sammamish area

46:52 ↗ we would have had um conditions that

46:55 ↗ could have matched what happened in

46:56 ↗ bonnie lake

46:56 ↗ and that would that spurred evacuations

46:59 ↗ there was quick

47:00 ↗ quick action from the fire department

47:02 ↗ but they were still on that fire for

47:03 ↗ four days

47:04 ↗ before they called it contained so it's

47:06 ↗ those types of things that we need to

47:08 ↗ stay informed about we absolutely

47:10 ↗ need to take action and we're committed

47:11 ↗ to doing that we did apply for a federal

47:13 ↗ grant

47:14 ↗ and for 75 000 to help us with that

47:16 ↗ outreach we'll hear about that shortly

47:18 ↗ and we hope to have that in order to

47:20 ↗ help implement some things moving into

47:22 ↗ 21

47:23 ↗ but still nothing will replace advocacy

47:27 ↗ and really looking for volunteers our

47:29 ↗ cert program here in issaquah

47:31 ↗ we have a cert program in some amish

47:32 ↗ hoas

47:34 ↗ and their boards are a wonderful place

47:36 ↗ to actually start to advocate

47:38 ↗ and inform and instruct and and that's

47:40 ↗ the kind of

47:41 ↗ outreach that i think will really make a

47:43 ↗ difference thank you

47:45 ↗ you're welcome

47:48 ↗ and anything else on that one no i think

47:50 ↗ that's uh yeah uh

47:52 ↗ go ahead thank you chief um and uh let's

47:55 ↗ see

47:56 ↗ i know i received a question on the

47:58 ↗ chaplain program so i'll just expand on

48:00 ↗ that one a bit too

48:01 ↗ our chaplains are wonderful um we

48:03 ↗ currently have four of them

48:04 ↗ and they receive about a two hundred

48:06 ↗ dollar stipend a month

48:08 ↗ uh to remain on call and they do come

48:11 ↗ out every time we call them

48:13 ↗ our hope we had a hope and and it'll

48:16 ↗ still be a desire and a future budget is

48:18 ↗ to expand to another chaplain

48:20 ↗ and to expand the stipends that they do

48:22 ↗ receive for the work that they provide

48:24 ↗ we are incorporating the chaplains into

48:27 ↗ the social working

48:28 ↗ program that we are working in in

48:30 ↗ partnership with the issaquah food and

48:32 ↗ clothing bank with

48:33 ↗ and that program will continue to

48:35 ↗ develop into next year

48:37 ↗ so as we roll that out there will be

48:38 ↗ natural opportunities and maybe even

48:40 ↗ some funding

48:41 ↗ opportunities outside of our current

48:42 ↗ funding resources to help us with that

48:44 ↗ but that's why the chaplain program is

48:46 ↗ listed and frankly anytime i can list

48:48 ↗ the chaplain program

48:49 ↗ i'd like to because i want to make sure

48:51 ↗ anytime you see one of them that you

48:52 ↗ continue to thank them because

48:54 ↗ they are among the most dedicated and

48:57 ↗ compassionate people i've come across in

48:58 ↗ our community

48:59 ↗ and they do a tremendous job for all of

49:01 ↗ us

49:03 ↗ uh okay and again

49:07 ↗ for purpose of your packet i wanted to

49:08 ↗ list some items for you that we will be

49:10 ↗ working on

49:11 ↗ um a couple of things to highlight that

49:13 ↗ are isoqua specific

49:15 ↗ this stems back from last year we are

49:17 ↗ locating the temporary station 71 along

49:19 ↗ east lake sam

49:20 ↗ we're still working on that and we'll

49:21 ↗ continue to work on that um

49:24 ↗ the mobile integrated health care

49:25 ↗ initiative that

49:27 ↗ was what i was just referring to with

49:29 ↗ our partnership with isaqah food and

49:30 ↗ clothing bank

49:31 ↗ working in the um

49:34 ↗ the chaplains into that program and then

49:36 ↗ all efforts in fact i listened to the

49:38 ↗ budget

49:39 ↗ before the efforts um like the mayor is

49:41 ↗ putting forward on the social working

49:43 ↗ side

49:44 ↗ all integrating everything into the

49:46 ↗ mobile integrated healthcare program

49:48 ↗ is really what all the social work

49:50 ↗ belongs to and

49:52 ↗ playing whatever role we can in that we

49:53 ↗ do receive some funding through the king

49:55 ↗ county ems

49:56 ↗ levy for mobile integrated healthcare uh

49:59 ↗ and we

49:59 ↗ that is what we're working with the

50:00 ↗ isoqua food and clothing bank um those

50:02 ↗ are

50:03 ↗ the financial resources that we're

50:04 ↗ getting from that in order to share in

50:06 ↗ that community so the majority of that

50:07 ↗ work on the early

50:08 ↗ early side of things is occurring in

50:10 ↗ issaquah it is our plan to expand it to

50:12 ↗ our entire service area

50:14 ↗ uh but just because we had a willing

50:15 ↗ partner at the esqua food and clothing

50:16 ↗ bank

50:17 ↗ issaquah will be the beneficiary of the

50:19 ↗ early part of this of the program that

50:21 ↗ we've been working on for

50:22 ↗ several months now um chief we got a

50:24 ↗ question

50:25 ↗ from council member walsh yes ma'am

50:28 ↗ thank you this is councilmember walsh

50:30 ↗ um just looking through this list you've

50:32 ↗ got temporary station 71

50:34 ↗ and then the two stations in sammamish

50:37 ↗ station 82 and 83. um it's my

50:40 ↗ understanding that the

50:42 ↗ cities own the stations and thus

50:45 ↗ pay for the additional station or the

50:49 ↗ remodel

50:50 ↗ um so you're including that in this

50:52 ↗ slide even though it isn't

50:54 ↗ in your budget it's just part of this

50:56 ↗ particular cycle correct

50:58 ↗ that's correct with one caveat i'd add

51:01 ↗ to that um

51:02 ↗ maintenance money that we have that you

51:04 ↗ have funded in our maintenance fund

51:06 ↗ if there are programs that are tied into

51:08 ↗ uh like the two

51:09 ↗ stations right now we have programmed

51:11 ↗ dollars for

51:12 ↗ upgrades and their hvac systems and some

51:14 ↗ other things in 21 and 22.

51:18 ↗ um if those dollars can be contributed

51:20 ↗ if they're going to do a remodel like

51:21 ↗ they're proposing now

51:22 ↗ then we would also add back the

51:24 ↗ community to capital facilities

51:26 ↗ maintenance money

51:27 ↗ that was earmarked for those projects to

51:29 ↗ help them get that project along

51:30 ↗ and and 71 82 and 83 the only budgetary

51:34 ↗ requirement that we have is staffing we

51:37 ↗ tend to be asked to and we're willing to

51:40 ↗ do it to

51:40 ↗ actually coordinate the project once we

51:43 ↗ cite it

51:44 ↗ the while the city could fund it we'll

51:46 ↗ we can perform the project management

51:47 ↗ and take that burden off of the cities

51:49 ↗ to ensure that we're coordinating um and

51:51 ↗ that's that's the reason for putting it

51:53 ↗ on here

51:54 ↗ perfect thank you you're welcome hey

51:57 ↗ chief clark i have a question can you

51:59 ↗ talk a little bit about where we stand

52:00 ↗ on

52:01 ↗ station 71 since it's got a year-end

52:04 ↗ completion date and we're

52:06 ↗ we're rapidly approaching that time yeah

52:08 ↗ we're

52:09 ↗ so in general and when we know exactly

52:12 ↗ we'll certainly come out with more

52:13 ↗ communication we've had two sites now

52:15 ↗ that we've cited and set along east lake

52:17 ↗ sam that we've said

52:19 ↗ those would be good working with the

52:20 ↗ city of course and we started to work

52:22 ↗ through the process and

52:24 ↗ in both cases there have been some

52:26 ↗ extraordinary

52:27 ↗ um uh slides or along the side of the

52:31 ↗ mountain

52:32 ↗ issues with building that would either

52:33 ↗ be cost prohibitive or just from uh

52:35 ↗ the first site was it just would not be

52:37 ↗ sound to build in an actual mountain

52:39 ↗ slide area

52:40 ↗ so while those have been disqualified

52:43 ↗ we're now

52:44 ↗ getting down to trying to find a site in

52:46 ↗ and assessing our strategy

52:48 ↗ on what we're actually going to do

52:50 ↗ moving forward um our strategy will

52:52 ↗ probably not be a full-blown station now

52:54 ↗ it will be um so an aid station or

52:56 ↗ something that effect but we're still

52:58 ↗ working through the details

52:59 ↗ of how that is we are working as

53:01 ↗ diligently as we can it's just

53:02 ↗ um when we find the valuable land that

53:05 ↗ there's not a lot of

53:07 ↗ um and we hope and hope and then

53:09 ↗ something comes up that disqualifies it

53:10 ↗ so

53:11 ↗ um that that's kind of where we're at

53:13 ↗ right now is reassessing and we have a

53:14 ↗ couple of leads that we're pursuing

53:16 ↗ right now

53:16 ↗ and we should be back to you shortly um

53:18 ↗ within the next couple of months at the

53:20 ↗ most to

53:21 ↗ to let you know where we stand with that

53:24 ↗ great thank you jeff you're welcome

53:30 ↗ okay and my last slide is uh a summary

53:34 ↗ of again this was what was in your

53:35 ↗ packet the five documents

53:38 ↗ that uh were part of the packet that are

53:41 ↗ sent to the e for board on october 8th

53:44 ↗ the equipment replacement plan and

53:45 ↗ capital facilities plan we went over

53:47 ↗ the operating revenue expense fund was

53:49 ↗ the summary of what the partners will be

53:51 ↗ asked to pay if that's approved in that

53:53 ↗ manner

53:54 ↗ and the two items i haven't talked about

53:56 ↗ yet are the end fund balance strategy

53:58 ↗ and the ambulance rate

53:59 ↗ the infund balance strategy uh again

54:01 ↗ that was in your packet

54:03 ↗ identified what our end our projected

54:04 ↗ end fund balance will be

54:06 ↗ and asked for a uh

54:10 ↗ an approval from the fact again

54:12 ↗ recommending to you for board on what to

54:13 ↗ do with those funds

54:15 ↗ the largest part of that strategy

54:17 ↗ besides the items that are listed out

54:19 ↗ and i'll be happy to answer any of the

54:20 ↗ questions you have on those if you do

54:22 ↗ is that what what i'm asking for is that

54:25 ↗ the remainder of the funds that are not

54:26 ↗ earmarked would be earmarked

54:28 ↗ in a fund for headquarters slash

54:31 ↗ training ground future needs um and at

54:34 ↗ the time i don't have the exact number

54:35 ↗ but it's 900 and some thousand projected

54:37 ↗ right now

54:38 ↗ the reason for that is twofold uh

54:42 ↗ one we have or i had been evaluating for

54:45 ↗ the six months prior to covid

54:47 ↗ in preparation for our budget process is

54:49 ↗ what we're going to do about the

54:50 ↗ building i'm sitting in right now and

54:51 ↗ that's our headquarters

54:52 ↗ we are talking with the issaquah food

54:54 ↗ and clothing bank about a co-location

54:57 ↗ and about possibly remodeling and doing

54:59 ↗ some things here

55:01 ↗ to integrate further into the community

55:03 ↗ and exciting projects

55:05 ↗ at the time we were talking about

55:06 ↗ possibly relocating headquarters

55:09 ↗ that's not necessarily high on my

55:10 ↗ priority list right now because we

55:12 ↗ learned a lot about covid and i'm

55:13 ↗ i what i did learn is we do not need the

55:15 ↗ footprint we have now

55:16 ↗ um in order to effectively administer

55:19 ↗ the fire department so we're going to

55:20 ↗ have some cost savings there

55:21 ↗ but with that comes some improvements

55:23 ↗ and since we have the money and then

55:25 ↗ fund balance rather than ask at a future

55:27 ↗ date

55:28 ↗ if we can be smart about saving that

55:30 ↗ money for

55:31 ↗ programs like hq and what we do with it

55:34 ↗ and have

55:35 ↗ some money that's available to the board

55:37 ↗ i do not have authority to spend that

55:39 ↗ fund in the way that i'm proposing it

55:41 ↗ until first coming to the board and the

55:42 ↗ board would have to specifically approve

55:44 ↗ it for the project

55:45 ↗ that is recommended the other item is

55:47 ↗ the training ground which i've been

55:48 ↗ talking to the board about all the way

55:49 ↗ back to the last budget process

55:51 ↗ north bend actually volunteered us some

55:53 ↗ ground uh lonnie was still here at the

55:55 ↗ time

55:56 ↗ and uh that piece of land has fallen

55:59 ↗ through for

55:59 ↗ environmental reasons but what we are

56:01 ↗ looking for is a flat piece of land in

56:03 ↗ order to put some large

56:04 ↗ training props to actually do some

56:06 ↗ training

56:07 ↗ at a site other than a parking lot or in

56:09 ↗ our fire stations

56:11 ↗ and this would leave some money

56:12 ↗ available for any potential project that

56:14 ↗ comes up from there as well

56:16 ↗ there's no sense earmarking it and i

56:17 ↗ certainly don't have a specific budget

56:20 ↗ ask at this time

56:21 ↗ so but the strategy is to earmark some

56:23 ↗ funds there

56:24 ↗ that the board is in full control of for

56:27 ↗ those future projects and i do think the

56:28 ↗ hq project

56:30 ↗ especially with the food and clothing

56:31 ↗ bank is something that is

56:33 ↗ gaining some synergy we're talking um

56:35 ↗ frequently about

56:37 ↗ and i think it's something that could

56:38 ↗ hit over this next two years and it

56:39 ↗ would be nice to have those resources

56:41 ↗ there so that's probably the most

56:42 ↗ significant thing about the end fund

56:43 ↗ balance

56:44 ↗ strategy and then the ambulance rate

56:48 ↗ we had a significant conversation over

56:50 ↗ the course of

56:51 ↗ at least two meetings and i really think

56:53 ↗ it went into a third meeting

56:55 ↗ on ambulance rates at the fact in the

56:57 ↗ end

56:58 ↗ after educating everybody on what an

57:00 ↗ ambulance rate is and what it's not

57:03 ↗ the agreement was that i would come

57:05 ↗ forward with a recommendation on

57:06 ↗ ambulance rate based on where we landed

57:09 ↗ with the final budget and so what i

57:11 ↗ ended up recommending was that we raise

57:13 ↗ our current rate of 820 to 1050

57:18 ↗ which would generate about two hundred

57:19 ↗ and eight thousand dollars more

57:21 ↗ in revenue on an annual basis uh for the

57:24 ↗ agency

57:24 ↗ if that ambulance rate is not approved

57:26 ↗ then we would have to shift that 280 000

57:28 ↗ or i'm sorry 208 000 to the partner

57:31 ↗ revenue

57:32 ↗ um and that's how it was explained and

57:35 ↗ essentially

57:36 ↗ and i would be happy to go into as much

57:38 ↗ detail as you want on ambulance rates

57:40 ↗ but essentially what this rate increase

57:41 ↗ means is that

57:43 ↗ uh the large majority of this will be

57:46 ↗ paid for by insurance companies not by

57:48 ↗ individuals

57:49 ↗ and it simply ensures that we we get a

57:52 ↗ higher rate

57:53 ↗ what is there is a term in ambulance

57:55 ↗ rate collection called usual and

57:56 ↗ customary rates

57:58 ↗ and as long as you're within those usual

58:00 ↗ and customary rates

58:01 ↗ private insurance companies will pay

58:03 ↗ those rates those usual and customary

58:05 ↗ rates within

58:07 ↗ king county are roughly seven hundred

58:09 ↗ fifty dollars to fifteen hundred dollars

58:11 ↗ so we're within that rate it is

58:13 ↗ something that it is a fee that we have

58:15 ↗ probably

58:15 ↗ under utilize and under evaluated in

58:18 ↗ previous years

58:19 ↗ and something that we continue and we

58:20 ↗ should continue to look at

58:22 ↗ moving forward on our annual and we will

58:24 ↗ through our annual budget process

58:26 ↗ so that's where that discussion came

58:28 ↗ from i'll be happy to answer any

58:29 ↗ questions anyone has on this or any

58:31 ↗ other part of the presentation

58:34 ↗ do we have any other questions for the

58:36 ↗ chief

58:40 ↗ all right oh i see a question from

58:43 ↗ council president hunt

58:45 ↗ thank you this is council president hunt

58:47 ↗ i did have a follow-up question on the

58:49 ↗ ambulance

58:50 ↗ rate um you mentioned the range

58:54 ↗ and uh the upper end of that range being

58:57 ↗ a thousand five hundred and so um

59:01 ↗ could you could you explain a bit more

59:02 ↗ about

59:04 ↗ how the amount was chosen for the

59:07 ↗ increase

59:08 ↗ and then um and then also i i

59:12 ↗ was looking a little bit and it seems

59:14 ↗ like some jurisdictions also charge a

59:16 ↗ per mile um and so i i wondered if

59:19 ↗ that's also something that's considered

59:21 ↗ if there are other considerations

59:23 ↗ uh thank you for your question and the

59:25 ↗ easy one first we do

59:27 ↗ charge a per mile rate i believe it's 19

59:30 ↗ and 21 cents we're not changing that as

59:33 ↗ part of this recommendation so

59:34 ↗ that wasn't part of the letter because

59:36 ↗ we we didn't have a change

59:38 ↗ but we do charge that um how we came to

59:41 ↗ the rate there we had a lot of

59:42 ↗ conversation

59:43 ↗ about exactly that how do we identify

59:46 ↗ the rate

59:46 ↗ where we settled on was that based on

59:50 ↗ the um the request from the e for board

59:54 ↗ that we keep the budget as flat as

59:55 ↗ possible

59:56 ↗ that i do everything i can to keep the

59:58 ↗ budget as flat as possible and when it

1:00:00 ↗ came to partner contributions

1:00:02 ↗ um if if there was um some amount of

1:00:05 ↗ dollars that i needed in order to

1:00:07 ↗ smooth that this is how the approach i

1:00:09 ↗ took in order to keep those

1:00:10 ↗ contributions down

1:00:12 ↗ um then i was going to select a

1:00:15 ↗ ambulance fee to fill that gap which was

1:00:17 ↗ that 208 thousand dollars or roughly 200

1:00:19 ↗ 000 which is where i settled on

1:00:21 ↗ a thousand and fifty we did have

1:00:23 ↗ conversation

1:00:24 ↗ and i had a recommendation two meetings

1:00:26 ↗ ago where i talked

1:00:28 ↗ about indexing it to what our actual

1:00:30 ↗ cost of delivering the services

1:00:32 ↗ um there were pieces of that that uh

1:00:35 ↗ some of the fact members felt were kind

1:00:36 ↗ of arbitrary and i certainly understood

1:00:38 ↗ where they were coming from on that

1:00:40 ↗ and then even in the latest fact meeting

1:00:42 ↗ there was a recommendation that we

1:00:43 ↗ figure out how to

1:00:44 ↗ index this fee um to some other form of

1:00:48 ↗ the fee

1:00:49 ↗ like what the private insurance

1:00:50 ↗ companies are willing to pay which is a

1:00:52 ↗ number that's hard to ascertain

1:00:53 ↗ and i agree with that i agree that long

1:00:55 ↗ term trying to index it and identify it

1:00:57 ↗ with something

1:00:58 ↗ makes the most sense but in in light of

1:01:02 ↗ where we're at in this budget process

1:01:04 ↗ and the um the potential volatility of

1:01:08 ↗ talking about this among partners it's a

1:01:10 ↗ hard thing to get

1:01:11 ↗ uniform consensus around it's a great

1:01:13 ↗ topic to receive

1:01:14 ↗ input and it just came to a point where

1:01:17 ↗ i had to make a

1:01:18 ↗ suggestion based on what i felt our

1:01:20 ↗ budget needed at this time and that's

1:01:22 ↗ where it came from

1:01:23 ↗ this time and we're going to continue to

1:01:24 ↗ work on the indexing

1:01:26 ↗ idea that um that one of the d10

1:01:29 ↗ commissioners mentioned in the 923

1:01:31 ↗ meeting

1:01:34 ↗ president hunt the answer the question

1:01:37 ↗ that's that does answer that and if i

1:01:39 ↗ may um i do have one follow-up question

1:01:41 ↗ also on these

1:01:43 ↗ please um so i also

1:01:46 ↗ um emailed a question and thank you for

1:01:48 ↗ the response regarding the motor vehicle

1:01:50 ↗ accident fees and so that

1:01:54 ↗ would be expected to be um if it were

1:01:57 ↗ collected

1:01:58 ↗ up to i believe 500 000

1:02:02 ↗ and i wondered what the plan is for that

1:02:05 ↗ going

1:02:06 ↗ forward um and additional information on

1:02:10 ↗ on the um reasons why we

1:02:14 ↗ may or may not be collecting that

1:02:16 ↗ absolutely uh

1:02:17 ↗ first of all this is a fee that that i

1:02:19 ↗ absolutely believe we should

1:02:22 ↗ find a way to to collect especially of

1:02:26 ↗ late

1:02:26 ↗ last year the legislature updated some

1:02:28 ↗ guy uh some

1:02:29 ↗ some rcws that allow this fee to be more

1:02:32 ↗ easily collected

1:02:33 ↗ we actually piloted this fee i believe

1:02:36 ↗ it was in 2018

1:02:38 ↗ we had set a one-year pilot there's

1:02:40 ↗ really one company that does this right

1:02:42 ↗ now

1:02:43 ↗ called ef recovery and we entered into

1:02:46 ↗ an agreement with them to do a one-year

1:02:48 ↗ pilot

1:02:49 ↗ approximately six months into the pilot

1:02:50 ↗ well let me back up i i want to say at

1:02:52 ↗ the time

1:02:53 ↗ they were committing that they felt that

1:02:55 ↗ our service area based on our call

1:02:56 ↗ volume we would receive around 150

1:02:59 ↗ 000 in revenue the way things were

1:03:01 ↗ structured then

1:03:02 ↗ we got about six months into this pilot

1:03:04 ↗ we collected about fifteen thousand

1:03:06 ↗ and the administration side of the

1:03:09 ↗ interface that this company had

1:03:11 ↗ uh was just very difficult to comprehend

1:03:14 ↗ how in the world we were going to have a

1:03:15 ↗ smooth

1:03:16 ↗ fair collection process and it never

1:03:18 ↗ manifested so

1:03:20 ↗ when the law changed this last year i

1:03:22 ↗ did bring the fee to the fact as a

1:03:24 ↗ consideration

1:03:25 ↗ i researched it brought it back to the

1:03:27 ↗ fact and my research tells me that

1:03:29 ↗ we still don't have a third-party

1:03:30 ↗ company which would be required to

1:03:32 ↗ collect this fee

1:03:33 ↗ that is proficient enough in the

1:03:35 ↗ washington king county

1:03:37 ↗ area to ensure that we could collect the

1:03:40 ↗ fee

1:03:40 ↗ in the way it was intended the way

1:03:43 ↗ things

1:03:44 ↗ are written in the and the concept i

1:03:45 ↗ think is sound it's just a matter of

1:03:47 ↗ finding a third party

1:03:49 ↗ uh that would be capable and has a

1:03:50 ↗ demonstrated track record in our area

1:03:53 ↗ uh that they can live up to what they

1:03:54 ↗ say we should be able to collect

1:03:57 ↗ hopefully by our next budget cycle this

1:03:59 ↗ is something that will be available and

1:04:01 ↗ the the private market out there will um

1:04:05 ↗ generate the companies that can do this

1:04:07 ↗ for us they just don't exist right now

1:04:08 ↗ that we can find anyway

1:04:13 ↗ sounds president hunt did that

1:04:16 ↗ answer your questions yes that does

1:04:18 ↗ thank you great

1:04:19 ↗ uh councilmember d michelle

1:04:24 ↗ thank you uh chief clark just back to

1:04:26 ↗ the ambulance rate

1:04:27 ↗ um if you pick up a person who

1:04:30 ↗ is uninsured and truly indigent um

1:04:34 ↗ is there a plan for what do you do in

1:04:36 ↗ those cases

1:04:37 ↗ um uh is there is the fee charge that

1:04:40 ↗ person

1:04:41 ↗ at any rate or is there a fund to help

1:04:44 ↗ those people or

1:04:45 ↗ or what happens when that situation

1:04:47 ↗ arises

1:04:48 ↗ so um thank you for the question great

1:04:51 ↗ question and we did discuss this uh

1:04:52 ↗ first of all currently

1:04:54 ↗ i have the ability and the authority to

1:04:56 ↗ waive any fee

1:04:57 ↗ and we do exercise that um when a

1:05:00 ↗ hardship is shown

1:05:01 ↗ and we we are compassionate in that in

1:05:03 ↗ that step we

1:05:04 ↗ we currently do not um try to push any

1:05:08 ↗ kind of hardship at all

1:05:10 ↗ the idea of establishing a fund kind of

1:05:13 ↗ a grant

1:05:14 ↗ is something that we did discuss with

1:05:15 ↗ the fact we

1:05:17 ↗ did not have time to develop that at

1:05:19 ↗ this point for the

1:05:21 ↗ budget but that is something that we

1:05:22 ↗ would still be able to develop in the

1:05:24 ↗ months to come

1:05:25 ↗ and i think would be a sound way to

1:05:27 ↗ handle it um simply

1:05:29 ↗ putting 100 000 aside or some kind of

1:05:31 ↗ grant where we can

1:05:32 ↗ we can write to that for those

1:05:35 ↗ individuals that would be eligible on

1:05:36 ↗ the criteria but it's developing the

1:05:37 ↗ criteria in the process

1:05:39 ↗ uh but ultimately still today i have the

1:05:41 ↗ authority and we do exercise that to

1:05:43 ↗ waive

1:05:44 ↗ if if necessary we still have federal

1:05:46 ↗ guidelines that we have to adhere to

1:05:48 ↗ in the form of billing so it doesn't

1:05:49 ↗ necessarily mean someone won't get a

1:05:51 ↗ bill

1:05:51 ↗ but we have the authority to waive the

1:05:54 ↗ actual collection of those funds

1:05:55 ↗ but we have to bill in order to stay

1:05:57 ↗ eligible in the other

1:05:59 ↗ transport billing realms that we have to

1:06:01 ↗ stay

1:06:02 ↗ relevant in order to collect the fees

1:06:03 ↗ from others

1:06:07 ↗ thank you

1:06:10 ↗ okay any other additional questions for

1:06:13 ↗ uh for the chief

1:06:20 ↗ all right um i see that council member

1:06:22 ↗ goodman has a question

1:06:24 ↗ uh thank you councilmember goodman here

1:06:26 ↗ um so chief clark i want to follow up on

1:06:28 ↗ that a bit and make sure that i'm

1:06:30 ↗ tracking correctly so council member d

1:06:33 ↗ michelle's question

1:06:34 ↗ is about whether we collect um

1:06:37 ↗ from people who can't afford to pay um

1:06:41 ↗ so is this the same topic we've

1:06:42 ↗ discussed it back a couple times about

1:06:45 ↗ how hard we should try to collect from

1:06:49 ↗ folks who are with their assurances not

1:06:51 ↗ paying are we talking about something

1:06:52 ↗ different

1:06:54 ↗ uh i think it's linked i interpreted the

1:06:57 ↗ question as those with a hardship

1:06:58 ↗ and i jumped to the hardship clause i

1:07:01 ↗ think the middle conversation there that

1:07:03 ↗ you're referring to

1:07:04 ↗ is currently to catch everybody up we do

1:07:07 ↗ not

1:07:08 ↗ take people to collections that was a

1:07:11 ↗ board decision years and years ago

1:07:13 ↗ we did have a robust conversation around

1:07:15 ↗ collections

1:07:16 ↗ and taking people to collections in fact

1:07:18 ↗ our billing company has asked that we

1:07:20 ↗ retain

1:07:21 ↗ a collection agency and they believe

1:07:23 ↗ that that would improve our collections

1:07:25 ↗ i would say the consensus i don't think

1:07:27 ↗ we ever voted on that council member

1:07:28 ↗ goodman but the consensus is is that we

1:07:30 ↗ move in that direction

1:07:32 ↗ uh and that is a conversation that i

1:07:34 ↗ need to have with the e for board as a

1:07:35 ↗ follow-up

1:07:37 ↗ from the fact about where to where to go

1:07:39 ↗ with that but right now if you were to

1:07:40 ↗ ask me my direction my direction

1:07:42 ↗ is to move towards a collection program

1:07:44 ↗ based on what i've heard

1:07:45 ↗ uh in the fact and that's what i intend

1:07:47 ↗ to talk to the board about

1:07:48 ↗ as we move forward does that answer the

1:07:51 ↗ question you're trying to hit stacy

1:07:53 ↗ yeah i just wanted to make sure that we

1:07:54 ↗ close the loop because i think

1:07:56 ↗ if i wasn't um if i didn't attend the

1:08:00 ↗ um efer meetings um i would be left

1:08:03 ↗ with the impression that um that we try

1:08:06 ↗ to collect from

1:08:07 ↗ everybody and um i think we have three

1:08:10 ↗ you know maybe three different

1:08:11 ↗ categories one is we have folks who are

1:08:13 ↗ insured in their insurance company pays

1:08:15 ↗ and then we have folks who

1:08:17 ↗ who insurance doesn't cover some or all

1:08:19 ↗ of it

1:08:20 ↗ um and um and those everybody does

1:08:23 ↗ receive

1:08:24 ↗ a bill yes um but from my understanding

1:08:27 ↗ is that

1:08:28 ↗ we don't follow up and try to collect

1:08:32 ↗ um from anybody we don't um we don't try

1:08:35 ↗ to collect from a states

1:08:36 ↗ um and so the question the fact has been

1:08:38 ↗ having is

1:08:40 ↗ how far we push that and just you know

1:08:43 ↗ in the interest of full disclosure

1:08:44 ↗ i've been pushing on this um that's nice

1:08:48 ↗ that we don't want to

1:08:49 ↗ force people to have to individually pay

1:08:52 ↗ that's a nice and i understand that

1:08:54 ↗ that we're in in a pandemic and so i

1:08:56 ↗ understand the reluctance to push that

1:08:58 ↗ now

1:08:58 ↗ um but um it's a similar comment that

1:09:01 ↗ i've had at you know city council

1:09:02 ↗ meetings

1:09:03 ↗ it's not our money it's the public's

1:09:05 ↗ money i mean so while the policy has

1:09:07 ↗ been to be nice about it

1:09:08 ↗ um um that it is a good conversation

1:09:11 ↗ that the faq

1:09:12 ↗ and the effort board has been having the

1:09:14 ↗ separate question that

1:09:15 ↗ councilmember d michelle um had

1:09:18 ↗ is a subset of the people who haven't

1:09:22 ↗ don't have insurance and the insurance

1:09:23 ↗ doesn't cover i mean for those

1:09:25 ↗ than this the subset is the people who

1:09:27 ↗ of those people who

1:09:29 ↗ can't afford it who are indigent um and

1:09:31 ↗ so that's the fund that we were talking

1:09:33 ↗ about but

1:09:34 ↗ the middle part we don't have a

1:09:36 ↗ collections um

1:09:38 ↗ we don't have any kind of a hard

1:09:39 ↗ collections um

1:09:41 ↗ policy we don't collect try to collect

1:09:43 ↗ very hard

1:09:44 ↗ and those nut those are those bills are

1:09:46 ↗ just written off just so everybody knows

1:09:48 ↗ yes and to clarify that further too and

1:09:50 ↗ i appreciate you bringing this up uh to

1:09:52 ↗ make sure that we did cover it

1:09:53 ↗ is we contact our and we have a we have

1:09:56 ↗ a pri a third-party company who does all

1:09:58 ↗ of our ambulance billing for us

1:09:59 ↗ they contact everybody we transport

1:10:02 ↗ three times

1:10:03 ↗ for a billing and if they don't bill uh

1:10:06 ↗ after three times if they don't collect

1:10:08 ↗ then they start the write-off procedure

1:10:09 ↗ and if they don't receive anything

1:10:11 ↗ then that's why we have the write-offs

1:10:13 ↗ um at every monthly board meeting

1:10:15 ↗ no matter what we do even if we do

1:10:17 ↗ collections you're going to see a big

1:10:18 ↗ list of write-offs when you run a

1:10:19 ↗ transport company

1:10:20 ↗ there's a tremendous list of write-offs

1:10:22 ↗ that's going to happen

1:10:24 ↗ but the collection piece both from our

1:10:26 ↗ third-party administrator

1:10:28 ↗ and from what our conversation in the

1:10:30 ↗ fact was is a direction

1:10:32 ↗ that we will be exploring moving forward

1:10:34 ↗ and we have to follow up and have the

1:10:35 ↗ broader conversation at the ever board

1:10:36 ↗ and i fully intend to bring that forward

1:10:38 ↗ as we move process it's just not linked

1:10:40 ↗ directly to the budget process

1:10:48 ↗ thank you any additional questions

1:10:54 ↗ okay since there are no

1:10:58 ↗ members of the public attending the

1:11:00 ↗ meeting we won't

1:11:02 ↗ ask if there's anybody who would like to

1:11:04 ↗ provide any comment

1:11:05 ↗ but i will ask council president hunt if

1:11:07 ↗ we received any emails

1:11:09 ↗ from the public relative to the eastside

1:11:11 ↗ fire and rescue budget

1:11:14 ↗ thank you we did not receive any emails

1:11:16 ↗ from the public on this item or

1:11:18 ↗ on the previous item that steve clark

1:11:21 ↗ presented on

1:11:22 ↗ thank you thank you any um

1:11:26 ↗ comments or feedback to chief clark

1:11:30 ↗ on the topic i see that council

1:11:33 ↗ president hunt has a comment

1:11:36 ↗ yes thank you this is council president

1:11:37 ↗ hunt i had a few

1:11:40 ↗ comments one on wildfire and

1:11:43 ↗ firewise i agree with councilmember

1:11:46 ↗ martz that

1:11:47 ↗ i'm interested in you know making sure

1:11:49 ↗ that people

1:11:50 ↗ know what resources are available on how

1:11:53 ↗ to prepare

1:11:54 ↗ and how to reduce the risk of

1:11:57 ↗ fire damage so i i think that's really

1:12:00 ↗ important topic one thing i wanted to

1:12:02 ↗ point out

1:12:03 ↗ to any community members that are

1:12:05 ↗ interested is that another resource

1:12:07 ↗ that is available locally that does

1:12:10 ↗ firewise

1:12:10 ↗ type programs programs very similar to

1:12:14 ↗ a number of of those that were mentioned

1:12:16 ↗ by chief clark is also the king

1:12:17 ↗ conservation district

1:12:19 ↗ so if you go online to king conservation

1:12:21 ↗ district they have a

1:12:23 ↗ wildfire resiliency program and they

1:12:26 ↗ they can do assessments for people's

1:12:28 ↗ properties and things like that

1:12:30 ↗ so that's a resource that if community

1:12:32 ↗ members are interested in preparing

1:12:34 ↗ that's just another way that they might

1:12:36 ↗ explore those options and

1:12:41 ↗ my second comment is on the fees i

1:12:44 ↗ appreciate the information that was

1:12:45 ↗ presented

1:12:46 ↗ as well as the information that i

1:12:48 ↗ received from chief clark in response to

1:12:50 ↗ my

1:12:50 ↗ email questions about the fees i i think

1:12:54 ↗ in the future it was indicated that in

1:12:56 ↗ the future these will be revisited

1:12:59 ↗ the fee collection for a number of fees

1:13:02 ↗ the

1:13:02 ↗ treat and refer fee the motor vehicle

1:13:05 ↗ accident fee and then also the ambulance

1:13:07 ↗ fee and i think council member goodman

1:13:11 ↗ said it very well

1:13:12 ↗ ultimately this is not our money so i

1:13:14 ↗ would

1:13:15 ↗ i would be supportive of continuing

1:13:18 ↗ trying to

1:13:20 ↗ collect on these different fees

1:13:23 ↗ it seems like it adds up to a fair

1:13:26 ↗ amount of money

1:13:28 ↗ so as we proceed with the next budgets i

1:13:30 ↗ would very much be supportive of

1:13:32 ↗ continuing to try to collect those fees

1:13:34 ↗ and also

1:13:35 ↗ i think for me better understanding the

1:13:37 ↗ indexing of the ambulance fee for

1:13:39 ↗ example

1:13:41 ↗ so that we understand how we can

1:13:44 ↗ make sure that we're covering costs

1:13:46 ↗ based on

1:13:47 ↗ the market um in a

1:13:50 ↗ in a methodical way i think would be

1:13:53 ↗ very useful and it would also help me

1:13:56 ↗ understand how those fees are calculated

1:13:58 ↗ better so thank you for the information

1:14:01 ↗ and i would be supportive of continuing

1:14:04 ↗ to try to

1:14:05 ↗ collect those different fees that we're

1:14:07 ↗ not currently collecting

1:14:14 ↗ okay any other um comments um

1:14:17 ↗ relative to the budget for this evening

1:14:22 ↗ i see a comment from councilmember

1:14:24 ↗ goodman

1:14:27 ↗ thank you councilmember goodman here um

1:14:29 ↗ i just want to take an opportunity to

1:14:31 ↗ thank chief clark for um bringing his uh

1:14:34 ↗ his dog at pony show to our council

1:14:37 ↗ meeting i really appreciate it

1:14:39 ↗ um and uh just to say here publicly in

1:14:42 ↗ front of all my friends on the council

1:14:44 ↗ and anybody who happens to watch us

1:14:45 ↗ again that

1:14:46 ↗ um it's uh it's an honor and a delight

1:14:49 ↗ to serve on the east side fire and

1:14:50 ↗ rescue board of directors

1:14:51 ↗ um chief clark is just a wonderful

1:14:53 ↗ leader very transparent

1:14:56 ↗ answers all of our questions and

1:14:59 ↗ it's much like the experience we've had

1:15:02 ↗ tonight

1:15:03 ↗ a very open dialogue and i just want to

1:15:06 ↗ again thank you for all your service and

1:15:08 ↗ thank you for coming to our meeting

1:15:10 ↗ and thank you for making this budget

1:15:13 ↗ understandable for us thanks so much

1:15:17 ↗ you're very welcome thanks for the kind

1:15:18 ↗ words

1:15:22 ↗ okay um seeing no other comments i just

1:15:26 ↗ i'll take the last word this evening and

1:15:29 ↗ also um being an eastside fire and

1:15:31 ↗ rescue board member

1:15:32 ↗ um it is it is really a privilege

1:15:36 ↗ to to serve and i think we saw from the

1:15:39 ↗ early part of the budget discussion

1:15:41 ↗ the value we get out of this um

1:15:44 ↗ collaboration with our partners in size

1:15:46 ↗ really

1:15:48 ↗ in the best interest of our city and the

1:15:50 ↗ leadership of

1:15:51 ↗ both of chief clark and his deputies

1:15:55 ↗ um is really created an incredibly

1:15:58 ↗ effective

1:15:59 ↗ and um organization that is i dare say

1:16:02 ↗ be loved by our community too which is

1:16:05 ↗ um pretty amazing to see so

1:16:08 ↗ um any other comments or questions

1:16:11 ↗ from the the council if not i'm seeing

1:16:14 ↗ nods i'm going to say we've uh

1:16:16 ↗ we have no more business and this

1:16:18 ↗ meeting is adjourned at

1:16:20 ↗ 8 16

1:16:24 ↗ o'clock p.m thank you all and have a

1:16:27 ↗ great evening

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Council / Members (7)

Barbara de Michele

Stacy Goodman

Zach Hall

Victoria Hunt

Tola Marts

Chris Reh

Lindsey Walsh