Park Board · Thursday, September 29, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of August 22, 2022 meeting

packet pp.3–9

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 08-22-22 Park Board Minutes Page 01 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Virtual Meeting August 22, 2022 MINUTES

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Storm & Surface Water Master Plan Update, (I, D)

20 min · Gary Schimek, Utilities Strategic Advisor Allen Quynn, Senior Stormwater Engineer · packet pp.11–37

Topics: Water

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Staff report:

Storm and Surface Water Master Plan – Final Plan Adoption SEPTEMBER 29, 2022 | PARK BOARD MEETING

Hillside Park - Conceptual Design Recommendation (D, A)

20 min · Jennifer Fink, Parks Planning and Projects Administrator · packet pp.39–46

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

Hillside Park – Proposed Concept 9/29/22 | PARK BOARD

Community Investment Strategy Update (D, A)

Director · 40 min · Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services · packet pp.47–81

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Jul 5, 2022

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REGULAR BUSINESS c) JEFF WATL IN G , PARKS & COMMUNITY SERVICES DIREC TOR JEN N IFER FINK, PARK PLANNER & PROJEC T ADMIN ISTRATOR

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0:00 ↗ all right so uh we'll start the uh

0:03 ↗ meeting today for September 29 2022 uh

0:08 ↗ first uh in-person meeting back so

0:10 ↗ welcome everybody

0:13 ↗ um so we'll start off with the uh roll

0:15 ↗ call uh so I guess

0:19 ↗ um take yourself off mute or I guess

0:22 ↗ also pick yourself up even in person as

0:24 ↗ well and acknowledge your presence uh so

0:28 ↗ uh Chris

0:33 ↗ okay uh Marlene here

0:35 ↗ all right uh Andrew

0:38 ↗ oh Andrew all right

0:47 ↗ David here Nicholas present all right

0:52 ↗ Brenda Katie

0:55 ↗ here

1:01 ↗ good uh Danielle

1:05 ↗ foreign

1:09 ↗ I'm here

1:10 ↗ and Andrew and hey

1:13 ↗ all right

1:16 ↗ um so um next just want to go through

1:19 ↗ the approval of minutes from August 22nd

1:22 ↗ 2022 uh any questions comments

1:25 ↗ Corrections

1:28 ↗ does anyone have any objections uh to

1:31 ↗ approving the minutes

1:35 ↗ all right uh here if I approve the

1:37 ↗ minutes thank thank you very much so

1:40 ↗ today we'll be going through uh three

1:43 ↗ agenda items the storm and surface water

1:46 ↗ master plan which is informational

1:48 ↗ discussion item the hillside Park uh

1:52 ↗ conceptual design recommendations uh

1:54 ↗ discussion and potential action and

1:57 ↗ Community investment strategy update

1:59 ↗ which is uh discussion and also

2:01 ↗ potential action

2:02 ↗ so

2:04 ↗ with that

2:06 ↗ we will turn it over to uh Gary with the

2:09 ↗ storm and surface water master plan in

2:12 ↗ the audience comments public comments

2:15 ↗ sorry something good okay

2:21 ↗ there is no one virtually there's no one

2:24 ↗ on anyone here

2:28 ↗ what comment no okay okay

2:33 ↗ no problem thank you

2:37 ↗ all right is there are no public

2:38 ↗ comments so uh it should be all all set

2:42 ↗ to move forward with the storm and

2:43 ↗ surface water master plan

2:45 ↗ all right thank you everybody just uh

2:47 ↗ test on the sound are we okay

2:50 ↗ yep great thank you uh Gary shimek um

2:54 ↗ the uh I'm a utility strategic advisor

2:57 ↗ part-time with

2:59 ↗ um

3:00 ↗ City of Issaquah Public Works some of

3:02 ↗ you may have known me as a former

3:04 ↗ utilities uh engineering and

3:07 ↗ environmental programs division director

3:10 ↗ uh but I've moved on to a part-time role

3:12 ↗ and I'm here with Alan Quinn our senior

3:15 ↗ stormwater engineer and two of our

3:18 ↗ excellent Consultants from otech to talk

3:21 ↗ about our master plan and I'm uh wanted

3:24 ↗ to apologize that my uh camera is not

3:26 ↗ working today I've been working with our

3:28 ↗ I.T folks since two o'clock and we can't

3:30 ↗ make it work so um go figure uh next

3:34 ↗ slide please Alan

3:40 ↗ okay our purpose uh is working with you

3:43 ↗ to take this uh quite long project

3:47 ↗ that's been a great thing in the making

3:49 ↗ towards the finish line so what we want

3:51 ↗ to do today is Prov provide a fun a

3:54 ↗ summary of not only our final CIP list

3:56 ↗ but more importantly uh how we got there

3:59 ↗ you will have you'll recognize much of

4:01 ↗ this from a previous uh conversations uh

4:05 ↗ but this is going to encapsulate all

4:06 ↗ we've done to get to this point in the

4:08 ↗ next step's word

4:10 ↗ next slide please Alan

4:12 ↗ and again we're really looking forward

4:14 ↗ mostly to your thoughts on our

4:17 ↗ methodology that's what I'm going to

4:18 ↗ focus on we don't have a lot of time

4:19 ↗ here I'm going to go over a couple of

4:21 ↗ the projects but we can definitely seek

4:23 ↗ more of your input on those specific

4:25 ↗ projects later but again I really want

4:27 ↗ to make sure everybody

4:29 ↗ with the methodology we use to get to

4:31 ↗ this point

4:33 ↗ next slide please

4:42 ↗ so we've been at this uh quite a long

4:45 ↗ time it's at uh some of the things have

4:47 ↗ been out of our control uh that little

4:49 ↗ pandemic thing but we did start this in

4:52 ↗ December uh 2019. uh with a great

4:55 ↗ kickoff meeting and a virtual Outreach

4:59 ↗ where we've had a lot of input what

5:00 ↗ we'll talk about and then we did you

5:02 ↗ know the series of uh part uh

5:04 ↗ environmental board Park Board and uh

5:06 ↗ Council study sessions

5:08 ↗ um along the way and um our most recent

5:12 ↗ um conversations have been uh with the

5:15 ↗ environmental board and then we also did

5:17 ↗ have a a committee meeting with Council

5:21 ↗ um uh last month

5:22 ↗ and we are here now to talk with you

5:25 ↗ um and then the next step will be going

5:26 ↗ to council for adoption

5:28 ↗ so our agenda again we'll talk a little

5:31 ↗ bit about our final plan the current

5:33 ↗ schedule uh the prioritization recap

5:36 ↗ which is going to be again a great part

5:38 ↗ of this discussion uh the stormwater

5:41 ↗ management options screening and the

5:43 ↗ metrics for prioritization those last

5:44 ↗ three are the key pieces and then we'll

5:46 ↗ just touch on the final CIP list and ask

5:49 ↗ if we have any questions

5:53 ↗ So the plan

5:55 ↗ um there is quite a bit in this plan

5:58 ↗ that we've talked to you about for the

5:59 ↗ last couple years

6:01 ↗ um there's going to be a section on

6:02 ↗ existing conditions for both water

6:04 ↗ quality or for not both but for water

6:06 ↗ quality habitat and flow control uh we

6:10 ↗ have our list and metrics for our storm

6:12 ↗ water management options

6:14 ↗ uh section on all the stakeholder

6:16 ↗ engagement we've done which we talked

6:18 ↗ about

6:18 ↗ we'll have our final candidate project

6:21 ↗ list which is Smo list we'll talk we'll

6:25 ↗ have the schedule for implementation for

6:26 ↗ those those 10 projects as well as the

6:29 ↗ budget needs

6:30 ↗ um and then what we're still working on

6:32 ↗ is an Adaptive and management approach

6:34 ↗ if if things don't quite go as planned

6:36 ↗ with the projects what are we going to

6:37 ↗ do then and then finally we'll have a

6:40 ↗ section on the Basin prioritization and

6:42 ↗ s-map and one thing to add that we just

6:44 ↗ talked about today we're going to have a

6:46 ↗ section on all the operational elements

6:49 ↗ that we're going to be probably talking

6:50 ↗ to you about in 2823 related to storm

6:54 ↗ water this is really a capital program

6:56 ↗ heavy Focus plan but we'll be coming

6:59 ↗ back and talking about things like

7:01 ↗ street sweeping

7:03 ↗ um and other things we can do to enhance

7:04 ↗ our existing system that's already built

7:07 ↗ next slide please

7:10 ↗ all right so we're in we're actually in

7:13 ↗ uh last part of this so you see the blue

7:15 ↗ diamond for the park sport here and as I

7:18 ↗ mentioned we just talked with the

7:19 ↗ Planning Development and environmental

7:20 ↗ committee earlier this month and then

7:22 ↗ the environmental board in July and then

7:25 ↗ the plan is to uh go to council adoption

7:28 ↗ in November December

7:30 ↗ we're currently as you see in those

7:31 ↗ boxes during in the super review process

7:33 ↗ the ecology review process and also the

7:36 ↗ internal City Review process and really

7:39 ↗ that blue box is really for the internal

7:41 ↗ City staff review is is listening to to

7:44 ↗ your concerns your comments as well as

7:46 ↗ the committee's comments and the

7:48 ↗ environmental board and making sure we

7:50 ↗ address those before uh the final uh

7:53 ↗ product is completed

7:54 ↗ next slide please

7:58 ↗ okay this is the biggest slide the most

8:00 ↗ important one of the bunch this really

8:02 ↗ lays out our process and I I'm very

8:04 ↗ pleased to present this is this has been

8:06 ↗ a lot of work a lot of you have been

8:07 ↗ involved in with this and Jennifer has

8:10 ↗ been representative Parks all along the

8:12 ↗ way

8:13 ↗ so we'll just kind of walk through this

8:15 ↗ a bit by bit and again this again this

8:17 ↗ is what I you know really looking for

8:18 ↗ your feedback so we started with

8:21 ↗ 303 uh known options or known issues

8:24 ↗ again issues from Community from our

8:28 ↗ Administration from staff from other

8:30 ↗ agencies uh and these were again bunched

8:33 ↗ into three things uh flooding issues

8:36 ↗ water quality issues and uh habitat

8:40 ↗ restoration issues

8:42 ↗ um again input at

8:43 ↗ um a real uh an in-person meeting

8:46 ↗ virtual meetings uh again this is

8:48 ↗ Citywide

8:50 ↗ so what we did then to go to the 303 to

8:53 ↗ the 41

8:54 ↗ and I know a 41's odd number but that's

8:56 ↗ just how it came out with our rankings

8:58 ↗ there were I think three projects tied

9:01 ↗ so 39 40 and 41 were all together so

9:03 ↗ that's the odd number uh but we had

9:06 ↗ folks from across the city again

9:08 ↗ including Jennifer but from uh at least

9:10 ↗ eight different departments across the

9:12 ↗ city we had uh external fakeovers

9:15 ↗ holders involved as well and we ranked

9:18 ↗ each one of these projects so each 303

9:21 ↗ our issue I should say each issue uh to

9:25 ↗ determine uh according to you know wide

9:28 ↗ swath of people which ones were the most

9:29 ↗ important and again we came up with uh a

9:33 ↗ list of you know our 41 highest issues

9:35 ↗ from across the city again so those are

9:37 ↗ issues needing to be solved

9:40 ↗ The Next Step was and this is where our

9:43 ↗ friends at otak came in to help us with

9:46 ↗ uh with City staff as well

9:47 ↗ looking at how could we best address

9:51 ↗ these 41 priority issues

9:54 ↗ um and thankfully the number is lower

9:55 ↗ it's 23. so what does that mean it means

9:58 ↗ that a number of issues uh

10:01 ↗ a number of issues can be solved with

10:03 ↗ each of these 23 projects so

10:06 ↗ um you'll as you'll notice when I talk

10:09 ↗ through some of the projects they're uh

10:11 ↗ multi-faceted projects so some of them

10:13 ↗ solve flooding or are hoping to solve uh

10:17 ↗ flooding water quality and habitat

10:20 ↗ issues some just solve one

10:22 ↗ um but I think that is a good thing that

10:24 ↗ we we brought that number down to 23

10:26 ↗ projects

10:28 ↗ what we did then

10:30 ↗ um and we'll get to a slide on this but

10:32 ↗ we did share this with you before we had

10:34 ↗ a robust list of another ranking

10:37 ↗ criteria for each of these projects that

10:40 ↗ was uh you know approved by uh boards

10:43 ↗ and by the council and most importantly

10:45 ↗ by ecology

10:46 ↗ so we ranked each one of those projects

10:48 ↗ and

10:50 ↗ um with numerical scores and what we

10:52 ↗ came up with with a list of of 10 that

10:55 ↗ were the highest priority that we like

10:57 ↗ to you know solve

10:59 ↗ um over the next you know 10 to 20 years

11:01 ↗ and those years may seem a little high

11:04 ↗ some of those projects may be solved

11:06 ↗ rather easily but some of them are very

11:08 ↗ large projects that that may take a very

11:11 ↗ long time to develop and implement

11:13 ↗ next slide please

11:18 ↗ again we've seen this before but just

11:21 ↗ quickly some of the the metrics that we

11:22 ↗ used to score those projects the very

11:25 ↗ first one uh actually came out of one of

11:28 ↗ the uh it might I have to look back at

11:30 ↗ my notes it was either the Parks Board

11:32 ↗ or the environmental board but uh

11:35 ↗ effectiveness of solving problems

11:37 ↗ including impacts benefits to Lake

11:39 ↗ Washington or I'm sorry lake Lake

11:40 ↗ Sammamish uh and then we've kind of

11:43 ↗ talked about some of the other other

11:45 ↗ metrics here from construction ability

11:46 ↗ to timing uh to environmental and social

11:49 ↗ justice so every every project was

11:52 ↗ scored with ease in mind next slide

11:54 ↗ please

11:55 ↗ foreign

11:59 ↗ CIP projects and the next step is going

12:03 ↗ to be to finalize the concept design and

12:06 ↗ cost for them but there was a little uh

12:08 ↗ one little step

12:09 ↗ um in between that so next slide please

12:12 ↗ go ahead

12:16 ↗ this just shows our basins we can come

12:18 ↗ back to that and I'll pass pass over

12:20 ↗ this through given the time today uh

12:23 ↗ let's go to the next slide

12:27 ↗ so an adjustment so what we we noticed

12:31 ↗ when we looked at the 10 projects that

12:33 ↗ scored the highest right with just true

12:36 ↗ scores raw scores uh we we noticed that

12:39 ↗ a few of our goals from the beginning of

12:42 ↗ the project were not met uh there wasn't

12:45 ↗ as much of a geographic diversity of the

12:47 ↗ projects that we would have liked and

12:49 ↗ the variety of projects weren't as

12:51 ↗ diverse they really focused on water

12:53 ↗ quality and and flooding and habitat

12:55 ↗ were a little bit uh low on the list so

12:59 ↗ um and this isn't this is not uncommon I

13:01 ↗ can tell you that I've done this with a

13:03 ↗ number of other organizations I've been

13:05 ↗ with and uh what you're what we're doing

13:07 ↗ is going from basically a project

13:09 ↗ ranking to a portfolio ranking so that's

13:12 ↗ where we made a few minor adjustments

13:15 ↗ um and we substituted four projects let

13:17 ↗ me just say though the the projects that

13:19 ↗ came out they're still high priority and

13:21 ↗ we still get to we will still get to

13:23 ↗ them at some point in time in the future

13:25 ↗ excited

13:30 ↗ and here's unveiling of our list this is

13:32 ↗ what we are recommending again to get

13:35 ↗ into our CIP process over the next you

13:37 ↗ know six years 10 years

13:45 ↗ okay there

13:46 ↗ all right we're good we're good okay so

13:49 ↗ again we won't go over these all uh

13:53 ↗ together but what I would let you to

13:54 ↗ draw attention to is again the variety

13:57 ↗ of project types we have water quality a

14:00 ↗ combination flooding projects water

14:01 ↗ quality projects alone habitat Alone

14:04 ↗ um and then the different basins that we

14:07 ↗ have

14:08 ↗ um there's a city-wide but then also you

14:10 ↗ know it's a qua Creek Schneider Tibbetts

14:12 ↗ Park Hill and laughing Jacobs and Lewis

14:14 ↗ so we really felt that this is you know

14:17 ↗ getting to match our original goal of

14:20 ↗ diverse project types and diverse basins

14:24 ↗ next slide please

14:32 ↗ sorry

14:34 ↗ okay we can go to the next one as well

14:36 ↗ too so I'm just going to go to two

14:38 ↗ oopsie

14:41 ↗ let's go to the Old Town slide Alan uh

14:43 ↗ so I'm just going to go over two two

14:44 ↗ projects in Old Town that I think will

14:47 ↗ have you know uh uh you know the most

14:50 ↗ some of the most discussion here because

14:52 ↗ of the um the multifaceted uh Solutions

14:56 ↗ we're trying to get at

14:58 ↗ um so this is the first the first one is

15:00 ↗ Old Town targeted Basin study and plan

15:03 ↗ and

15:04 ↗ um let me first say that this is going

15:06 ↗ to be

15:07 ↗ um in collaboration and with our dear

15:10 ↗ friends at King County surface water

15:12 ↗ management and the flood control

15:14 ↗ district so what we're looking at is

15:17 ↗ um major ways that we can address

15:20 ↗ um particular the flooding issues and

15:23 ↗ the down you know that the old town area

15:25 ↗ but also provide water quality and

15:29 ↗ habitat and one of the things that that

15:32 ↗ we evolved learned through this project

15:34 ↗ is that um the regional Regional work

15:38 ↗ Upstream in King County unincorporated

15:40 ↗ areas something that the city can fund

15:43 ↗ if there is a benefit Downstream to the

15:47 ↗ city

15:48 ↗ um and that could be leveraged with

15:49 ↗ additional King County dollars

15:52 ↗ um so we're going to continue to work

15:54 ↗ with them over the next couple years to

15:56 ↗ identify a couple things what are the

15:59 ↗ the new the best known risks for

16:02 ↗ flooding in this area they are currently

16:04 ↗ under underway with a new floodplain map

16:07 ↗ and they're also going to look at how

16:10 ↗ the channel may move around during these

16:13 ↗ big floods so we can overlay their work

16:15 ↗ with our existing and our known problems

16:18 ↗ and then work together to come up with

16:21 ↗ uh ways in a regional way to address

16:24 ↗ these issues most cost effectively

16:27 ↗ okay next slide Allen please

16:33 ↗ and again another big one here is I

16:36 ↗ would call this a subset of what we were

16:37 ↗ talking about but this is something we

16:39 ↗ can do independently of the King County

16:41 ↗ work

16:42 ↗ um again this is

16:44 ↗ this came through from you know almost

16:46 ↗ everybody we talked to the issues

16:48 ↗ especially the flooding issues and water

16:50 ↗ quality issues around Old Town uh is

16:52 ↗ there a way to construct a a regional

16:55 ↗ facility in the old town area that could

16:58 ↗ both uh reduce the impacts of uh

17:03 ↗ existing development and future

17:05 ↗ development uh now the one caveat here

17:08 ↗ from our initial

17:10 ↗ um initial work it would probably be a

17:12 ↗ fairly large facility about two acres so

17:15 ↗ we don't know if that's going to be

17:16 ↗ something that's feasible but we still

17:19 ↗ want to look at that because that would

17:20 ↗ be a great way to get to leverage

17:22 ↗ dollars not only from our Utility Fund

17:25 ↗ but also from our development community

17:28 ↗ so these were two that I just wanted to

17:31 ↗ highlight that were some of the biggest

17:32 ↗ projects and again you can feel uh free

17:36 ↗ to kind of really take a deep look at

17:38 ↗ the other eight projects that we have

17:40 ↗ and Alan and I you know will take you

17:42 ↗ know you know questions tonight but

17:43 ↗ questions over the next few weeks if you

17:45 ↗ have any concerns or questions about

17:47 ↗ those uh because we are still uh as I

17:50 ↗ wanted to just point out

17:52 ↗ um over the before we go back to council

17:55 ↗ for each of these projects that are on

17:57 ↗ this list we will have a a little bit

18:00 ↗ more defined scope and

18:03 ↗ um and also a budget so we can again uh

18:06 ↗ put these in perspective into you know

18:10 ↗ our our CIP projects or CIP portfolio to

18:14 ↗ get a feeling for for when to give the

18:16 ↗ community and all of you a feeling for

18:18 ↗ how we could deliver these projects

18:20 ↗ right because there are two key

18:21 ↗ constraints one obviously is the funding

18:24 ↗ uh the two is our staffing that we're

18:26 ↗ able to you know work and it's not only

18:29 ↗ Public Work Staffing but Jennifer's time

18:31 ↗ and parks and other folks in the city

18:34 ↗ that we really are going to have it's

18:35 ↗ going to be a team effort for all these

18:37 ↗ projects so we want to uh you know

18:39 ↗ develop a schedule that is is realistic

18:42 ↗ uh that we can deliver on

18:45 ↗ so Alan with that I think you can go to

18:47 ↗ the last slide please

18:49 ↗ uh with questions or I guess what we're

18:52 ↗ trying to wrap up uh yes yes if we have

18:55 ↗ those other projects of course but I

18:57 ↗ don't know we have time to go through

18:58 ↗ all the other projects I think the first

19:00 ↗ two of the ones I thought were we felt

19:02 ↗ most important from Parks the park

19:04 ↗ boards interests in terms of

19:06 ↗ yeah so anyhow but these are all we can

19:09 ↗ certainly

19:10 ↗ you know nothing worth let me work just

19:12 ↗ talking through the year real quick or

19:14 ↗ just highlighting yeah I'll just quickly

19:15 ↗ yeah okay

19:17 ↗ yes the next one on the list sp28 229th

19:21 ↗ Avenue Southeast water quality

19:22 ↗ improvement project so basically this is

19:24 ↗ a is a nice map there and this is an

19:27 ↗ area

19:28 ↗ um uh where the North Fork of Mr Clark

19:30 ↗ Creek comes down the hill from up the

19:33 ↗ highlands and it's where the right

19:36 ↗ adjacent to the pit there um gravel pit

19:39 ↗ and as a as an area that has a lot of uh

19:42 ↗ it's um gravel

19:44 ↗ parking area that trucks use and other

19:46 ↗ vehicles use it and it's it the problem

19:49 ↗ with that area is water comes down 220

19:52 ↗ 229th when it rains and it just causes a

19:55 ↗ lot of sedimentation and turbidity

19:57 ↗ issues which and it flows directly into

19:59 ↗ the North Fork of Issaquah Creek so we'd

20:02 ↗ like to

20:03 ↗ do a project there to stabilize that

20:06 ↗ um and prevent that erosion from

20:07 ↗ occurring and you know causing sediment

20:10 ↗ into the North Fork which of course is

20:11 ↗ we have salmon

20:13 ↗ and it's the clock Creek we want to

20:14 ↗ protect

20:15 ↗ um so that's that project Issaquah

20:17 ↗ Hobart Road fish Berry removal this one

20:19 ↗ was a project that was identified fairly

20:22 ↗ late but uh one of the projects that was

20:24 ↗ actually we one of the sources of

20:27 ↗ information for where we decided to do

20:29 ↗ our or known it or figure out our known

20:31 ↗ issues was wdfw watch State Department

20:33 ↗ fish and wildlife they have a database

20:34 ↗ of all the fish barriers in the state

20:36 ↗ and we looked looked at that database

20:38 ↗ and this was actually on that DNA

20:40 ↗ database but it was shown as not as as

20:44 ↗ being

20:45 ↗ repaired and anyhow I was out there with

20:48 ↗ another staff member and we observed

20:50 ↗ that this it's a it's a barrier it's a

20:52 ↗ major fish barrier and so we thought

20:54 ↗ that would be a good project to do to

20:56 ↗ open that up at the covert and um so we

20:59 ↗ can increase the fish use

21:03 ↗ um Savage code parking stream habit

21:05 ↗ enhancement project this is actually a

21:07 ↗ project that would work nicely with with

21:09 ↗ the parks department this would be a

21:11 ↗ channel restoration project

21:13 ↗ um uh along

21:15 ↗ um Schneider Creek at the outfall to

21:18 ↗ Lake Sammamish or the where yeah it

21:21 ↗ comes in like some atmosphere at The

21:23 ↗ Cove Park so I believe that the park

21:27 ↗ support is doing some restoration there

21:28 ↗ it will at some point be doing some

21:30 ↗ restoration along there planting so we

21:32 ↗ would like to work work with you all to

21:35 ↗ do a stream restoration project there so

21:38 ↗ and that also would work well with a

21:40 ↗ wash dot they're doing a Cove

21:42 ↗ replacement of Schneider Creek and so we

21:45 ↗ would coordinate all the efforts with

21:47 ↗ them because they planned opening that

21:48 ↗ up with a nice fish possible Culvert

21:51 ↗ across I-90

21:53 ↗ the new Broadway water quality retrofit

21:55 ↗ uh this is uh retrofit one we call it

21:58 ↗ oversized proposed Road facility so this

22:00 ↗ would be a water quality treatment

22:01 ↗ facility that we would work in

22:03 ↗ conjunction with uh our transportation

22:06 ↗ department they're doing a corridor

22:07 ↗ Improvement project along Newport Way

22:09 ↗ and while they're doing their

22:12 ↗ improvements the road improvements we

22:14 ↗ thought that would be a good opportunity

22:15 ↗ to um

22:17 ↗ collaborate with them and do a joint

22:19 ↗ project where we could do water quality

22:20 ↗ treatment above and beyond with it but

22:22 ↗ they're required to treat so

22:24 ↗ um

22:25 ↗ East Lake Sammamish Parkway water

22:27 ↗ quality retrofit uh here again this

22:29 ↗ would be a retrofitting in that term we

22:32 ↗ use to mean uh treating imperface

22:35 ↗ surfaces pollution generating that are

22:36 ↗ not being treated currently and so it

22:39 ↗ would be putting in treatment facilities

22:40 ↗ to treat East Lake Sammamish Parkway

22:43 ↗ which is a high use high ADT you know a

22:46 ↗ lot of cars used to travel I have a

22:49 ↗ family trip thank you thank you

22:52 ↗ um so this would be a nice actually

22:54 ↗ thought it would be a good place to get

22:55 ↗ a lot of bang for the buck for water

22:57 ↗ quality treatment

22:59 ↗ in the Southeast 43rd way roadway storm

23:02 ↗ water treatment facility and here again

23:04 ↗ another

23:05 ↗ um

23:06 ↗ this is where we would put it in

23:07 ↗ retrofit treating areas that are not

23:09 ↗ being treated currently on Southeast

23:12 ↗ 43rd way

23:14 ↗ um with using a

23:16 ↗ variety of

23:18 ↗ enhanced treatment facilities like storm

23:21 ↗ filters which we use in the city so

23:23 ↗ in other areas and then West Lake

23:25 ↗ Sammamish Parkway water quality retrofit

23:28 ↗ uh similar project

23:32 ↗ um just retrofitting roadways to do

23:34 ↗ additional treatment where there's not

23:36 ↗ currently no treatment this would

23:38 ↗ actually work well with washdot because

23:39 ↗ there are replacing the Lewis Creek over

23:42 ↗ across I-90 and we've been working with

23:45 ↗ them and they're aware of what we're

23:46 ↗ trying to get their implementation

23:47 ↗ scheduled so we could maybe coordinate

23:49 ↗ in doing because they're gonna have to

23:51 ↗ use improvements on West Lake cinemas

23:53 ↗ Parkway as part of the Culvert

23:54 ↗ replacement project so that's the time

23:57 ↗ to go in there and and do some

23:59 ↗ retrofitting while they're in there

24:00 ↗ tearing up the road

24:03 ↗ um that's why for programmatic fish bear

24:06 ↗ inventory

24:07 ↗ and removal so this would be basically a

24:11 ↗ a project to go out and investigate an

24:14 ↗ inventory and then prioritize where we

24:17 ↗ want to do some fish barrier removals

24:19 ↗ where there's culverts that are not not

24:21 ↗ fish possible or limited fish passable

24:24 ↗ and once again that's using WWE's they

24:28 ↗ have their their list of of barrier a

24:31 ↗ fish barrier culverts and we would use

24:33 ↗ that list and go out and actually feel

24:35 ↗ verify what needs to be done and

24:36 ↗ prioritize it

24:39 ↗ um

24:41 ↗ and uh actually

24:43 ↗ yeah and this is just another it's the

24:45 ↗ same project basically just because now

24:47 ↗ this is this is actually photographs of

24:48 ↗ that project we talked about earlier

24:50 ↗ that

24:51 ↗ um was a standalone fishberry removal

24:53 ↗ project and you can see that's clearly a

24:56 ↗ fish barrier

24:57 ↗ um on the left and top left there

24:59 ↗ um so and that'll open up a lot of nice

25:02 ↗ habitat for Sam and Upstream

25:05 ↗ so okay that's quick run down to those

25:11 ↗ [Music]

25:11 ↗ um

25:13 ↗ so I guess yeah Direction needed

25:14 ↗ feedback on the method wow so Gary unit

25:17 ↗ I don't know if you wanted to take this

25:19 ↗ slide or yeah no no let me just that was

25:22 ↗ great Alan and again we're we're looking

25:24 ↗ for any just real major concerns or

25:28 ↗ comments uh it's it's positive as well

25:31 ↗ on the methodology we used uh again

25:34 ↗ that's why we want to make sure that you

25:35 ↗ know we we did a robust process on a

25:38 ↗ fair process to get to the projects and

25:40 ↗ programs and then any thoughts on on

25:43 ↗ those on those projects and programs

25:45 ↗ again knowing that this is CIP heavy and

25:48 ↗ we will be coming back to you to talk

25:50 ↗ more about some of the operational work

25:51 ↗ we're doing as public works but across

25:54 ↗ the city to also reduce uh flooding

25:57 ↗ impacts uh improve water quality improve

26:00 ↗ habitat

26:01 ↗ uh but this is kind of what we'd uh what

26:03 ↗ looking for you now thank you

26:10 ↗ I see Bradley

26:13 ↗ have any questions yeah

26:14 ↗ Brad

26:17 ↗ so my question is uh do any of these

26:21 ↗ projects uh require some sort of an

26:23 ↗ environmental impact review or maybe

26:26 ↗ most of them do I don't know but I kind

26:28 ↗ of wanted to see about that

26:30 ↗ yeah we already take out a little you

26:33 ↗ can probably nail that one

26:35 ↗ yeah so at every project we do is I'm

26:37 ↗ gonna will require of course going

26:39 ↗ through the sepa so that's you know

26:41 ↗ that'll require a seat to process and

26:43 ↗ then yes there'll be

26:46 ↗ um most of them require if they're in

26:47 ↗ water work they're going to require you

26:49 ↗ know a core permit and working with fish

26:51 ↗ and wildlife and getting a hydraulic

26:52 ↗ project approval permit called the HPA

26:56 ↗ um so yes we will definitely be that's a

26:59 ↗ big part of all these projects will be

27:01 ↗ the environmental review and

27:03 ↗ um the tribes usually in coordination

27:05 ↗ with the tribes Michael shoots and

27:07 ↗ Snoqualmie tribe as well we bring them

27:09 ↗ in early bring them in early so they can

27:11 ↗ see what we're proposing you know early

27:13 ↗ on in the design phase and make sure we

27:15 ↗ address their comments and we do with

27:17 ↗ every project every restoration project

27:19 ↗ we do so Again Brad I just like to add

27:22 ↗ that was one of the kind of the

27:23 ↗ criterias uh during the screening is

27:25 ↗ this project really feasible given you

27:28 ↗ know a potential uh impacts including

27:30 ↗ environmental so like I said we're going

27:32 ↗ to go through the process but we did

27:33 ↗ take a little look at that because

27:34 ↗ you're at one thing we wouldn't want to

27:36 ↗ do is cause more environmental

27:38 ↗ destruction to get an environmental

27:40 ↗ benefit so we we did at least look at

27:42 ↗ that the first console thank you for

27:43 ↗ that question

27:46 ↗ kind of tied to that question I know for

27:49 ↗ the evaluation period and picking which

27:51 ↗ projects do we do any kind of

27:52 ↗ post-project monitoring or seeing if the

27:55 ↗ environmental impact was accurate and do

27:57 ↗ we help does that help us drive for

27:59 ↗ future projects and all that other sure

28:01 ↗ I can take that Gary

28:03 ↗ so further so we had three types of

28:05 ↗ projects we had restoration flooding and

28:08 ↗ water quality treatment so the the

28:09 ↗ restoration projects those are the ones

28:11 ↗ where we we do we do require in fact

28:13 ↗ this in our city code that when we do a

28:15 ↗ restorated stream restoration project

28:16 ↗ let's say where we're you know putting

28:18 ↗ side channels and Backwater channels and

28:20 ↗ all the large Woody debris you may see

28:22 ↗ in some of these restoration projects we

28:24 ↗ do require post-construction

28:26 ↗ um when we put in Plants we have to make

28:27 ↗ sure that those plants

28:29 ↗ um survive right we have certain uh

28:31 ↗ performance standards we have to meet

28:33 ↗ like 80 survival rates and they do get

28:35 ↗ monitored for a five-year period

28:38 ↗ um some projects can be tense so it

28:41 ↗ could be about seven yeah I guess it

28:42 ↗ seems like you're every so often those

28:44 ↗ numbers increase but I believe in our

28:46 ↗ code we part minimum five-year uh

28:48 ↗ monitoring of all the the native plants

28:50 ↗ that we install for all these

28:52 ↗ restoration projects to make sure they

28:53 ↗ do meet the 80 survival rates Etc

28:56 ↗ because yeah we're putting all this

28:57 ↗ money into we want them to survive and

28:59 ↗ um

29:00 ↗ yeah definitely

29:02 ↗ yeah so yeah let me just add a little

29:05 ↗ bit I'm not I'm not sure who asked that

29:06 ↗ question they couldn't see it but it's

29:07 ↗ an awesome question and and I think you

29:10 ↗ know where we're gonna also be heading

29:12 ↗ and you're gonna you know hear more

29:13 ↗ about this and may have already but our

29:15 ↗ just the asset management work at the

29:17 ↗ city is you know making sure that we're

29:19 ↗ doing a better job uh you know once we

29:22 ↗ install some some of these larger

29:24 ↗ facilities water quality or flooding to

29:25 ↗ be tracking them and yeah are they are

29:28 ↗ they performing as designed and if

29:29 ↗ they're not why just to make sure we are

29:32 ↗ getting the the value we expected out of

29:34 ↗ them

29:35 ↗ um so yeah that we we do that now to a

29:37 ↗ certain extent but you're going to see

29:38 ↗ that even more and more

29:41 ↗ um uh with Public Works going forward

29:44 ↗ thank you apparently Yeah Yeah question

29:48 ↗ so first of all thank you for walking us

29:49 ↗ through that I also think you know going

29:51 ↗ through those projects really felt like

29:53 ↗ we really prioritized

29:55 ↗ um a lot of the restoration and sort of

29:57 ↗ habitat which I think is important and I

29:59 ↗ was just curious about knowing that

30:01 ↗ we're here at the parks board meeting

30:02 ↗ how many of these 10 projects really

30:04 ↗ assist in sort of addressing flooding

30:07 ↗ within our Parks or reusable spaces

30:10 ↗ um for parks and recreation

30:13 ↗ uh I can take that briefly um maybe

30:15 ↗ there you can chime in as well but so

30:17 ↗ these 10 projects we looked at a whole

30:20 ↗ bunch of projects but we some we took

30:23 ↗ out because if they were being done by

30:26 ↗ others or they're already in our CIP

30:28 ↗ the project we've already we're already

30:30 ↗ planning to do they weren't part of this

30:32 ↗ list that we're going to implement so

30:34 ↗ sort of separate from some from other

30:36 ↗ projects and for example there is a

30:37 ↗ project in Tibbetts Creek

30:39 ↗ um we're working with child unlimited

30:42 ↗ they're doing a study along Tibbetts

30:44 ↗ Creek over by the manor to the commander

30:46 ↗ to look at the issue of the there's a

30:48 ↗ cementation Basin in Tibbetts Creek and

30:50 ↗ that um our maintenance department they

30:53 ↗ have to maintain that spend you know

30:55 ↗ tens of thousand dollars every year to

30:57 ↗ clean out that sedimentation basin

30:59 ↗ the other problem is is that that we're

31:02 ↗ not allowing the natural recruitment of

31:03 ↗ gravel through the system to keep

31:05 ↗ flushing and providing fresh gravel for

31:07 ↗ spine fish Downstream

31:10 ↗ so this study is to look at how can we

31:13 ↗ um improve the gravel recruitment

31:15 ↗ Downstream not starve it and and then

31:18 ↗ and thereby so using the material that

31:21 ↗ we'd be pulling out for thirty thousand

31:23 ↗ dollars a year in costs you know get rid

31:25 ↗ of the sedimentation Basin and let it

31:27 ↗ let the gravel move through and that

31:29 ↗ would and then also at the same time

31:30 ↗ look at the flooding issues that we're

31:31 ↗ having down there and that's we're

31:33 ↗ working with the parks department to

31:35 ↗ because you have your master planning

31:37 ↗ that is you're going through with the

31:39 ↗ tibis Valley Park and so we're working

31:41 ↗ and so we've been Jennifer and I and

31:43 ↗ Gary we're all we're plugged into that

31:45 ↗ and we're going to make sure the study

31:46 ↗ works with what you're planning to do

31:49 ↗ and how we can improve Flooding at the

31:51 ↗ park and improve fish habitat and reduce

31:53 ↗ maintenance costs so that's a good

31:55 ↗ example of hitting all three of those

31:58 ↗ but that's a study that's like I said

32:00 ↗ it's separate it wasn't included in this

32:01 ↗ because we're already doing it so you

32:04 ↗ know we did we didn't include those

32:05 ↗ projects that are already ongoing or

32:07 ↗ will be implemented next year or two so

32:11 ↗ they're budgeted I should say

32:17 ↗ [Music]

32:19 ↗ hi Gary Nicholas Lee here

32:24 ↗ thank you

32:27 ↗ um

32:27 ↗ one of the prioritizing criteria's might

32:30 ↗ have been around funding you said you're

32:31 ↗ going to explore that more later

32:33 ↗ and or maybe we can answer it here I'm

32:36 ↗ trying to understand if this any of this

32:38 ↗ um aligned with projects that are in the

32:40 ↗ step which is a longer term look for

32:41 ↗ transportation a lot of this stuff looks

32:43 ↗ like cold work roadway work right

32:45 ↗ question two is do any of these or does

32:48 ↗ our storm water system have park or

32:50 ↗ excuse to be connection fees or impact

32:52 ↗ fees and or impact great Point let me

32:55 ↗ let me do both of them the first one is

32:58 ↗ uh we we absolutely looked uh so there's

33:02 ↗ the funding I was talking about

33:04 ↗ um was limited and kind of how do we

33:06 ↗ kind of fund it in their CIP but what we

33:08 ↗ what we did Nicholas too is we have one

33:10 ↗ of the criteria was how how can we

33:12 ↗ leverage our dollars right

33:14 ↗ um so that's why you do see some of

33:16 ↗ these projects on here when you know

33:18 ↗ Alan talked about oh this might work

33:20 ↗ well with the washdop project right uh

33:22 ↗ this might work well with King County so

33:24 ↗ we did look at uh you know each of these

33:26 ↗ that not all of them but majority of

33:28 ↗ them have some type of leveraging factor

33:31 ↗ where either another agent agency could

33:33 ↗ fund into it or that it could you know

33:36 ↗ add on to what they're already doing so

33:38 ↗ so that's you know that's the real cool

33:40 ↗ part about this we and we did have one

33:43 ↗ um

33:45 ↗ multi-jurisdictional meeting uh boy I

33:47 ↗ think like in December or January uh and

33:50 ↗ a number of um you know really good

33:52 ↗ funding leveraging uh ideas came came

33:55 ↗ about uh second thing we're going to be

33:57 ↗ you know we're pretty darn good at

33:59 ↗ Issaquah looking for and going after and

34:02 ↗ receiving grants uh even just dedicated

34:04 ↗ to storm water so we will continue to do

34:07 ↗ that and there may may be other

34:09 ↗ opportunities especially when we talk

34:12 ↗ about the parks and stormwater Synergy

34:14 ↗ uh to go after grants maybe that that we

34:17 ↗ haven't been accessed successful at

34:18 ↗ before but now that we're a little more

34:20 ↗ coordinated uh uh we could do better at

34:23 ↗ and then the impacts fees no for storm

34:25 ↗ water we necessarily you know we we have

34:27 ↗ our rates right so the rates really are

34:29 ↗ our basis for it but then when you when

34:32 ↗ we talk about that that one I think was

34:34 ↗ the second project uh the regional

34:36 ↗ facility uh that's where we could

34:38 ↗ leverage uh development dollars as well

34:41 ↗ um so instead of building something uh

34:44 ↗ you know let's let's say a hundred small

34:46 ↗ facilities uh developments across Old

34:48 ↗ Town we could pool that money together

34:50 ↗ and build something larger so that's

34:52 ↗ that's another way we can just be

34:54 ↗ creative with the funding

34:55 ↗ so uh you know to answer that last part

34:57 ↗ yeah no no storm impact fees necessarily

35:00 ↗ but that is you know part of our rate

35:02 ↗ base is to get money to do projects like

35:04 ↗ this

35:07 ↗ is that does that did that hit that

35:10 ↗ yeah I mean I think that that's all I

35:13 ↗ was wondering okay

35:15 ↗ thank you

35:19 ↗ any other questions

35:24 ↗ Tim I think I saw Tim though okay

35:28 ↗ okay yeah that's right I have just a

35:30 ↗ quick follow-up and you really just

35:31 ↗ touched on most of the answer to what I

35:33 ↗ was going to ask you which really

35:35 ↗ involved you know partnering with the uh

35:38 ↗ the county the state and maybe the feds

35:40 ↗ uh to pay for some of this and do the

35:46 ↗ projects you described sound terrific

35:48 ↗ but has there been any sort of filter

35:51 ↗ pass through in terms of you know

35:53 ↗ funding do they fit inside the

35:56 ↗ broad vision of the funding you think

35:58 ↗ you can bring to the table to pay for it

36:00 ↗ or is that not a filter you're really

36:03 ↗ applying at this time

36:04 ↗ no Tim that's a great point on on the

36:07 ↗ latter part yes these absolutely can fit

36:09 ↗ in but it's it's a question of if we

36:11 ↗ weren't to you know look for you know

36:13 ↗ grants or

36:15 ↗ and we will actually be answered this

36:17 ↗ question very specifically before we go

36:19 ↗ to council but let me just hit it now if

36:21 ↗ we didn't look for those those Regional

36:23 ↗ you know Partnerships the grants you

36:25 ↗ know this is probably like a 20-year

36:28 ↗ Endeavor right with these 10 projects

36:29 ↗ and some of them are very large but what

36:31 ↗ we're hoping to do uh by leveraging you

36:35 ↗ know the funding uh getting additional

36:37 ↗ grants is bringing that those years down

36:40 ↗ where we could actually you know do uh

36:42 ↗ do more of these projects

36:44 ↗ um in a shorter time frame and I just

36:47 ↗ want to highlight

36:48 ↗ um one thing and I think we're going to

36:50 ↗ be having a joint presentation at

36:52 ↗ environmental board probably next year

36:54 ↗ on this but the the partnership with

36:56 ↗ King County uh is going to be amazed I'm

36:59 ↗ really excited about that so again I

37:02 ↗ mentioned the the uh floodplain mapping

37:05 ↗ they're doing and the channel migration

37:07 ↗ work but um there's also another arm of

37:10 ↗ King County that many of you may be

37:12 ↗ aware but the King County Flood Control

37:14 ↗ District

37:15 ↗ there is current funding at a 800 000

37:18 ↗ level to start looking uh at coordinated

37:21 ↗ projects between uh the county and the

37:24 ↗ city

37:25 ↗ um in their CIP already uh now that's

37:27 ↗ probably for you know uh that sounds

37:29 ↗ like a lot of money but these are going

37:30 ↗ to be some big projects uh but that's in

37:33 ↗ there already and there could be more

37:35 ↗ coming from that uh because the you know

37:37 ↗ the County Council and the flood control

37:40 ↗ district realize how serious of an issue

37:43 ↗ flooding is on Issaquah Creek so so

37:45 ↗ that's one Tim I think we all just want

37:47 ↗ to keep looking at and I I'm really

37:50 ↗ hopeful we can leverage that and that

37:51 ↗ will bring the time frame uh you know

37:53 ↗ down from from about 20 years hopefully

37:56 ↗ hey Gary if I could just add to that

37:59 ↗ real quick

38:00 ↗ helping to answer your question Tim

38:02 ↗ um

38:03 ↗ so the jurisdiction from Once I came

38:07 ↗ um down in South King County Kent we did

38:09 ↗ a lot of work with King County and that

38:11 ↗ Flood Control District and a lot of

38:14 ↗ um successful work around multiple

38:17 ↗ benefits within that flood plain so

38:19 ↗ looking at how not only riparian habitat

38:23 ↗ flood control but also recreational use

38:26 ↗ can be accomplished through projects so

38:30 ↗ um yeah it'll be it'll be interesting to

38:33 ↗ see how an exciting to see how

38:34 ↗ opportunities might present themselves

38:36 ↗ on Issaquah Creek and just like this

38:40 ↗ idea we've already leveraged fair amount

38:41 ↗ of Grant funds already for the projects

38:44 ↗ but the Tibbetts Creek study that we had

38:45 ↗ talked about earlier that's being funded

38:47 ↗ through a King County flood control

38:49 ↗ Grant

38:51 ↗ um and they're also we have three water

38:53 ↗ quality ecology water quality retropic

38:55 ↗ grants that were that we'll get started

38:57 ↗ on and the best retrofit whole town

39:00 ↗ um so

39:02 ↗ yeah so that's definitely what we want

39:04 ↗ to look for is these leveraging all the

39:06 ↗ grants out there for sure so

39:09 ↗ great thank you absolutely brief comment

39:12 ↗ uh you know it's very apropos showing up

39:14 ↗ right before examine days so I just want

39:18 ↗ to Echo what Marlene said you know it's

39:20 ↗ this is the heart and soul of the

39:22 ↗ community for some portion of us anyways

39:24 ↗ from the environmental impact and taking

39:26 ↗ care of the ones that can't take care of

39:27 ↗ themselves so yes

39:29 ↗ um well just one quick thing I want to

39:31 ↗ add on this along the line so the one

39:35 ↗ the restoration project that I'm I'm

39:37 ↗ managing that's we're wrapping up

39:39 ↗ construction so it's the lowest quad

39:40 ↗ Creek stream in repair and enhancement

39:42 ↗ project that's over by Costco so it's um

39:45 ↗ in terms of opportunity or opportunistic

39:49 ↗ having it completed right at salmon days

39:51 ↗ and actually we saw fish coming up

39:53 ↗ through the through the restoration area

39:55 ↗ the last couple weeks and they're

39:57 ↗ utilizing all the wood that we've

39:58 ↗ installed on any channel so it's

40:00 ↗ so if you ever go by the trail by Costco

40:03 ↗ where all the new um headquarters

40:05 ↗ buildings are being Pickering Trails if

40:07 ↗ you look across the creek you can't miss

40:09 ↗ it it's just a huge

40:11 ↗ backward channels the contractor graded

40:13 ↗ outside channels it's really pretty

40:15 ↗ amazing and we kept the majority of all

40:18 ↗ mature trees in that area because

40:20 ↗ they're all trees that were planted way

40:22 ↗ back during the um early 1900s because

40:25 ↗ it's all Homestead sites that the city

40:27 ↗ purchased parcels and and we kept all

40:30 ↗ there's like a huge um

40:32 ↗ uh Sequoia I'm joined Sequoia that we

40:34 ↗ kept and we cut most of the mature trees

40:36 ↗ so it's really neat to see these

40:37 ↗ channels excavated amongst all the all

40:40 ↗ the mature trees so

40:42 ↗ [Music]

40:46 ↗ all right any other questions comments

40:53 ↗ looks like no other questions coming so

40:57 ↗ you move on to both side part thank you

41:01 ↗ so much thank you thank you thank you

41:03 ↗ very much we appreciate it

41:05 ↗ foreign

41:45 ↗ [Laughter]

41:50 ↗ so Hillside Park so we're here tonight

41:53 ↗ to talk through the conceptual design as

41:57 ↗ you know we've had a number of

41:58 ↗ conversations and and I just I just want

42:00 ↗ to set the context that if you remember

42:02 ↗ with our Park capital projects we really

42:05 ↗ have these three very distinct

42:08 ↗ periods of time for a capital project

42:10 ↗ you have sort of your planning and

42:12 ↗ conceptual work then you go into design

42:15 ↗ and permitting and then you go into

42:17 ↗ Construction

42:19 ↗ um what you're going to hear tonight and

42:20 ↗ and I think the conversation tonight I

42:22 ↗ just want to set the context for think

42:24 ↗ of it as it we're at a gate we're at the

42:26 ↗ Gate of going from conceptual design

42:28 ↗ really working with the neighborhood and

42:31 ↗ a very emotional neighborhood that had a

42:33 ↗ lot of different opinions

42:35 ↗ um to try and build consensus on a

42:36 ↗ conceptual design so tonight is really

42:38 ↗ about the opportunity for that

42:41 ↗ conceptual design to be actualized you

42:45 ↗ know here's the consensus we found and

42:47 ↗ for you to consider taking action as we

42:49 ↗ go from the Gate of conceptual design

42:52 ↗ into design and permitting design

42:55 ↗ permitting will have its own set of

42:57 ↗ environmental

42:59 ↗ related engagement and public engagement

43:01 ↗ but I just I just want to sort of remind

43:04 ↗ you of the bigger context of a capital

43:06 ↗ project we're sort of going from in this

43:09 ↗ first phase to the second phase

43:12 ↗ not Jim please take it away all right

43:15 ↗ I said

43:20 ↗ so

43:22 ↗ Hillside Park

43:24 ↗ um as you know in the main quick to do

43:27 ↗ this

43:29 ↗ um Hillside Park as you know

43:32 ↗ um we had been working with the

43:34 ↗ community over the past two years to

43:38 ↗ um come up with a concept uh to

43:41 ↗ introduce play within the community

43:43 ↗ through all of our engagements

43:47 ↗ um there are some these nine large items

43:51 ↗ that kind of came out as priority

43:53 ↗ improvements and that is make some

43:56 ↗ enhancements at the entrance uh engage

44:00 ↗ in making the trails more accessible

44:04 ↗ um add more tables and seating to the

44:06 ↗ park areas

44:08 ↗ create a log climber and slide area uh

44:12 ↗ Timber steps in an Overlook area

44:15 ↗ also improve existing Trail connections

44:18 ↗ to the neighborhood up through the

44:21 ↗ cemetery here

44:23 ↗ right now there's some use conflicts

44:25 ↗ between the cemetery and uh

44:28 ↗ visitors people walking over Graves

44:32 ↗ which is not good this work would help

44:35 ↗ minimize those conflicts

44:37 ↗ and then also

44:39 ↗ um we'd keep the existing backstop

44:42 ↗ because the community really wanted to

44:45 ↗ and they also want to retain uh what we

44:47 ↗ know as an act of wetland as a play

44:50 ↗ field

44:51 ↗ um so we will be making drainage

44:53 ↗ improvements for that to make that

44:55 ↗ surface more playable year-round for

44:58 ↗ that so we took all of these

45:01 ↗ um little points and with the help of

45:05 ↗ our consultant team

45:06 ↗ finished after a several

45:10 ↗ series of several meetings on-site

45:12 ↗ in-person workshops and surveys and come

45:17 ↗ up with this layout this is a

45:19 ↗ perspective you kind of standing at home

45:21 ↗ plate looking over to where the play

45:23 ↗ areas would be we have the sledding hill

45:26 ↗ that the community wanted to retain the

45:29 ↗ entrance is kind of back over to the

45:31 ↗ side tables and seating are going to

45:34 ↗ remain about where they are right now

45:35 ↗ with an enhanced accessible trail that

45:39 ↗ will get you all the way down

45:40 ↗ to the play areas down here and we have

45:44 ↗ a swing with some log climbers and

45:47 ↗ slides and we would retain this open

45:49 ↗ grassy area there is a boulder that's

45:52 ↗ very well loved in the Gathering space

45:54 ↗ and that will stay the same as well

46:00 ↗ this is somewhat of a different

46:02 ↗ perspective of the play area you can see

46:07 ↗ keeping in with the natural theme it was

46:09 ↗ really important to the community that

46:11 ↗ this fit within the natural setting of

46:13 ↗ the park it didn't violate the wooded

46:16 ↗ feeling of the park but still provides

46:19 ↗ some opportunity for different elements

46:22 ↗ of play while being visually

46:24 ↗ um

46:25 ↗ not visually impactful you know it's not

46:27 ↗ bright colors it's not metal it's really

46:30 ↗ items that fit within the natural

46:32 ↗ landscape and also we can soften some of

46:35 ↗ them with little pockets of planting

46:38 ↗ around the area so we put all these

46:41 ↗ survey Concepts out to the community

46:43 ↗ there's kind of what an aerial view

46:46 ↗ of that space would look like

46:50 ↗ we received some really good feedback

46:53 ↗ when asked the final question do you

46:57 ↗ feel the final proposed concept balances

47:00 ↗ the goals of preserving the natural

47:03 ↗ character of the park while adding play

47:05 ↗ amenities as well as trial and Field

47:08 ↗ improvements from a very what was a

47:12 ↗ diverse uh sense of what should happen

47:15 ↗ out there we have really come a long way

47:18 ↗ where 74 feel we have been able to reach

47:22 ↗ that balance 13 were mixed but they were

47:27 ↗ like those were the yes but answers you

47:31 ↗ know they weren't hard yeses or hard

47:33 ↗ no's

47:34 ↗ um like I don't want a plastic slide or

47:37 ↗ I you know little things like that that

47:40 ↗ didn't really Sway and then we had

47:42 ↗ um our nose as well

47:45 ↗ so in general I'm not if I'm not

47:48 ↗ mistaken yes I did break this up

47:50 ↗ differently no it's okay it's okay no so

47:53 ↗ we um sent you the actual survey

47:56 ↗ responses earlier those have been on the

47:58 ↗ website and posted on the website

48:02 ↗ um but you'll notice within that

48:05 ↗ um survey feedback we took a finer tooth

48:08 ↗ comb than even that to sort of break

48:10 ↗ down okay within those mixed responses

48:13 ↗ which way were those mixed leaning was

48:16 ↗ it a was it a mix of yeah I like most of

48:19 ↗ it but I really don't like this specific

48:21 ↗ so let's make sure we capture that as a

48:24 ↗ a mixed sort of trending towards yes

48:27 ↗ versus there were some mixed responses

48:29 ↗ that were I really don't like this

48:31 ↗ except for this one element right so it

48:33 ↗ was more of a more of a mix but leaning

48:36 ↗ towards a no and so you'll notice in the

48:38 ↗ survey responses that you received a

48:41 ↗ little fire tooth breakdown yeah and I

48:43 ↗ apologize I pulled up

48:45 ↗ um not the one the presentation that's

48:47 ↗ in your packet because the other slide

48:49 ↗ there is that additional breakdown in

48:52 ↗ The Mating packet so you get 70 yes and

48:54 ↗ anything you guys like yeah yeah yeah

48:57 ↗ yeah yeah but we get a little different

48:59 ↗ breakdown

49:01 ↗ um so I think collectively it's 86 were

49:05 ↗ on the

49:06 ↗ you know mixed yes positive side and

49:10 ↗ then the other

49:11 ↗ um percent was the 14 were in the mixed

49:15 ↗ no no we have more than that when we

49:17 ↗ started that didn't want anything so

49:19 ↗ true true so I apologize I pulled up the

49:22 ↗ wrong slide on this that is my my

49:25 ↗ believersion but uh the right one is in

49:27 ↗ your package so with that

49:31 ↗ um

49:31 ↗ kind of what's next as Jeff said we're

49:34 ↗ kind of in that next Gateway we are

49:36 ↗ wrapping up the conceptual design which

49:39 ↗ is the green item here you know where

49:41 ↗ that's where we really work diligently

49:44 ↗ with the community and then

49:46 ↗ um then as we move into design and

49:49 ↗ permitting to start creating

49:50 ↗ construction documents that's when me

49:53 ↗ and the Consultants can kind of turn our

49:54 ↗ backs and we do a lot of work getting

49:57 ↗ some of that detailed design so we can

49:59 ↗ get a design packet and construction

50:00 ↗ documents together to then submit

50:04 ↗ um to the planning department so we can

50:06 ↗ start going through the permitting

50:07 ↗ active permitting process and as Jeff

50:10 ↗ mentioned earlier as part of that

50:12 ↗ process we'll also have to do

50:14 ↗ environmental review and we'll have a

50:16 ↗ neighborhood meeting as well solely to

50:18 ↗ talk about the environmental impacts and

50:21 ↗ we'll also start working with the

50:22 ↗ outside agencies in that permitting

50:25 ↗ process as we go to mitigate the Wetland

50:27 ↗ and um

50:29 ↗ uh find sites to include for the

50:32 ↗ mitigation areas and with mitigating

50:35 ↗ that critical area you'll see on this

50:36 ↗ calendar we're anticipating a full year

50:38 ↗ of Permitting all of all of 2023 to get

50:41 ↗ through that

50:42 ↗ um yeah just trying to be realistic

50:45 ↗ um in that regard so what that next year

50:48 ↗ would be finish design permitting and

50:51 ↗ then hope we'll start construction in

50:53 ↗ 24. could you I'm sorry I missed some of

50:56 ↗ that did you say again why we're meeting

50:57 ↗ the mitigate is it because of the

50:59 ↗ drainage work so the play field right

51:01 ↗ now

51:02 ↗ um the only way you went out to the

51:04 ↗ community everyone's like the grass is

51:06 ↗ always wet in the winter time what can

51:08 ↗ we do and so we're like let's check it

51:10 ↗ out so we checked it out and come to

51:12 ↗ find out it's a professional Wetland

51:14 ↗ okay uh isolated drain it off

51:17 ↗ essentially it's isolated

51:19 ↗ um it has been in that form for 40 50

51:23 ↗ years that field has been there um as is

51:25 ↗ and so it is just one of those things

51:28 ↗ that over time

51:30 ↗ um it we live in a wet area

51:33 ↗ depressions uh change and so we found

51:36 ↗ out to our surprise that it was a

51:39 ↗ wetland

51:40 ↗ um in the middle of what had been used

51:42 ↗ as a plant field so we're having to

51:45 ↗ mitigate for that because the community

51:47 ↗ would like to keep it yeah and those

51:49 ↗ that were here last year and forgive us

51:52 ↗ new parkour members we last summer we

51:55 ↗ had a long conversation with the

51:57 ↗ neighborhood around giving this Wetland

52:00 ↗ realization right that a a functional

52:03 ↗ Playfield in a wetland can't live

52:05 ↗ together so really and they wrote what

52:07 ↗ what is the priority do you want the

52:09 ↗ function of that field and if so we're

52:11 ↗ going to need to mitigate we're going to

52:13 ↗ need to take this Wetland and have it

52:15 ↗ environmentally function better

52:16 ↗ somewhere else and really overwhelming

52:19 ↗ response from the neighborhood was we

52:21 ↗ really that Field's important that play

52:23 ↗ feels really really important to the

52:25 ↗ neighborhood and so that's set into

52:26 ↗ motion this pretty extensive mitigation

52:29 ↗ process because it's not just the

52:32 ↗ Wetland itself that you have to mitigate

52:34 ↗ for it's also the 75-foot buffer around

52:37 ↗ that Wetland that you also have to

52:39 ↗ mitigate for so that would have really

52:40 ↗ have taken up almost the entire park

52:42 ↗ space we started us let's head up face

52:44 ↗ character and then turned into like oh

52:46 ↗ no

52:48 ↗ honestly I mean I think I think just

52:51 ↗ putting my Parks hat on and and you know

52:55 ↗ I think Hillside Park is such a

52:57 ↗ wonderful space and and really the goal

52:59 ↗ is how to preserve that natural informal

53:02 ↗ feel but as an as something that if

53:04 ↗ function as an informal part for

53:07 ↗ decades right you know sometimes these

53:11 ↗ kind of things happen as you consider

53:13 ↗ adding an amenity or looking at an

53:15 ↗ amenity or hey we want that we want that

53:17 ↗ field to function better that field

53:19 ↗ doesn't drain all that good so make it

53:21 ↗ drain better well as you discovered and

53:24 ↗ have a drain better the the reason isn't

53:26 ↗ draining so well is it's a critical area

53:28 ↗ that has to be that has to be addressed

53:31 ↗ and so it's almost this discovery phase

53:33 ↗ of

53:34 ↗ still keeping that neighborhood park

53:37 ↗ natural and very informal but

53:40 ↗ um

53:41 ↗ I think finally

53:43 ↗ allowing it to function as a

53:44 ↗ neighborhood park is going to require

53:46 ↗ some of this um some of this work so

53:49 ↗ you're right what started as looking at

53:52 ↗ play is is doing a whole lot more to

53:55 ↗ this park um if I could add one more

53:57 ↗ more and more comment before we go into

53:59 ↗ discussion so another thing that we've

54:01 ↗ done that I mentioned last month is

54:04 ↗ through this process we've been looking

54:06 ↗ at budget and so city council is sort of

54:09 ↗ the the overseers of the budget as part

54:12 ↗ of the mayor's proposed budget process

54:14 ↗ proposed budget for 2324 we are

54:16 ↗ requesting an additional nine hundred

54:18 ↗ thousand dollars for this project that

54:21 ↗ 900 000 really as we've been talking

54:24 ↗ with our environmental consultants and

54:27 ↗ with the Department of ecology and some

54:29 ↗ of the other permanent folks trying to

54:30 ↗ get a sense of what full mitigation is

54:32 ↗ going to look like and building in some

54:34 ↗ funding there we've also learned from

54:36 ↗ Blackberry Park and that construction

54:39 ↗ happening the cost of materials the cost

54:42 ↗ of Labor have on a little higher than

54:44 ↗ what was estimated

54:46 ↗ um a year or two ago so we built that

54:48 ↗ built that inflationary reality into

54:51 ↗ that budget request so in permanent case

54:53 ↗ as well and then permitting fees that

54:55 ↗ are going to go with that agencies

54:58 ↗ right multiple checks to multiple

55:00 ↗ agencies yeah yeah become a reality so

55:04 ↗ all of that is as we're looking and

55:06 ↗ considering this schedule of 23

55:08 ↗ permitting 24 that budget request is

55:11 ↗ going forward to to make sure this

55:14 ↗ project is uh is funded

55:17 ↗ it's a good time to need to draw down on

55:19 ↗ Reserves

55:23 ↗ so with that as Jeff mentioned all of

55:28 ↗ all are on the project webpage I sent

55:31 ↗ them out to you tonight they were meant

55:33 ↗ to be in the packet of my apologies

55:36 ↗ um but we'll add them as for minutes but

55:38 ↗ they are on the web page already should

55:40 ↗ you care to take a look at it

55:42 ↗ so with that

55:44 ↗ um open it up for any board discussion

55:47 ↗ regarding this project before we

55:49 ↗ move into that next space would you want

55:52 ↗ to take action

55:55 ↗ I'll just add a quick question if I

55:57 ↗ could draw yeah quick um so where does

56:00 ↗ the um the mitigation process fit into

56:02 ↗ like the timeline with regards to like

56:04 ↗ construction there's 11 have to be

56:06 ↗ mitigated prior to the breaking ground

56:09 ↗ on the construction or is that something

56:11 ↗ that will happen after the fact no it's

56:14 ↗ a great question it it will learn more

56:16 ↗ through the permitting process but any

56:19 ↗ any word we do on the field drainage

56:22 ↗ improvements we need to mitigate have it

56:26 ↗ have it mitigated at first and so I

56:28 ↗ would imagine

56:30 ↗ um depending on where the location of

56:32 ↗ that mitigation is right they'll sort of

56:35 ↗ sequence the construction of that

56:37 ↗ accordingly on based upon the the permit

56:41 ↗ requirements

56:42 ↗ yes I'm not sure I think I saw Brad has

56:46 ↗ his hand up

56:49 ↗ I think that I actually have a couple

56:52 ↗ questions uh one relates to the uh Trail

56:58 ↗ uh through the cemetery whether you know

57:00 ↗ kind of what's the status of that and

57:03 ↗ whether that's going to be a separate

57:04 ↗ issue

57:05 ↗ or whether that's going to be a part of

57:08 ↗ the whole project of the Redevelopment

57:10 ↗ of Hillside Park my next question

57:14 ↗ relates to surveys and I don't know if

57:17 ↗ there's any way that this can happen or

57:20 ↗ did happen I didn't look at the last

57:23 ↗ packet that came out because it I didn't

57:25 ↗ have chance to yet but um

57:28 ↗ you know this is a this is a

57:32 ↗ community park and not used by much of

57:36 ↗ anyone other than people that live

57:38 ↗ around the park

57:39 ↗ even though I live on squawk Mountain I

57:41 ↗ don't really ever go up there and so I

57:43 ↗ think that the survey should be waited

57:45 ↗ rather heavily on people that live

57:48 ↗ around the park and use the park and my

57:50 ↗ question is is there was there any way

57:53 ↗ that that was weighted in the survey to

57:55 ↗ isolate the people that actually use

57:58 ↗ this park

58:00 ↗ um who we said the survey to do you want

58:03 ↗ to answer that one first gen and I'll

58:04 ↗ handle the cemetery question

58:06 ↗ um so with our the help of our

58:09 ↗ communication Department through our

58:10 ↗ public engagement process I have a list

58:12 ↗ of contacts of people who have sent

58:14 ↗ emails or attended meetings throughout

58:17 ↗ the years uh going all the way back to

58:20 ↗ 2014 when we had our first neighborhood

58:22 ↗ meeting up there and so I've been

58:24 ↗ building those contacts so I've been

58:27 ↗ sending every time there's any

58:29 ↗ engagement I've been sending them

58:33 ↗ um the information as well as our

58:36 ↗ Communications team has been targeting

58:38 ↗ squawk mountain and that neighborhood

58:40 ↗ for feedback on on that while it is

58:44 ↗ posted for the community it really has

58:46 ↗ been more of a neighborhood focused on

58:48 ↗ public engagement

58:51 ↗ um

58:51 ↗ the survey itself was pushed to that to

58:54 ↗ that neighborhood right right

58:58 ↗ and then to to your other question Brad

59:01 ↗ um

59:04 ↗ I'm sorry what was it the cemetery oh

59:06 ↗ the cemetery yes we did go to the

59:09 ↗ cemetery board and um chatted with them

59:12 ↗ regarding the trail connection

59:15 ↗ um they expressed a few concerns which

59:17 ↗ we've been able to

59:19 ↗ um you know bring forward and we'll work

59:22 ↗ into our designs uh we also sent letters

59:25 ↗ to all the neighbors that but the

59:27 ↗ cemetery letting them know that this

59:29 ↗ trial would be placed in there and of

59:31 ↗ all of the neighbors I think uh Brenda

59:33 ↗ you were one of them that might have

59:34 ↗ done letter from me

59:36 ↗ we received no comments back or

59:40 ↗ inquiries regarding that trail

59:42 ↗ connection and where it was going to go

59:44 ↗ we provided a map as part of that

59:46 ↗ communication so specific to your

59:48 ↗ question Brad you know the the intent is

59:51 ↗ that that trail link so in again forgive

59:55 ↗ me I was out of the room but this the

59:58 ↗ trail is trying to solve a historical

1:00:00 ↗ conflict where part people wanting to

1:00:03 ↗ access the park are walking through the

1:00:05 ↗ through the cemetery and literally

1:00:08 ↗ through the Cemetery grounds what's

1:00:09 ↗ being proposed is utilizing the 50-foot

1:00:12 ↗ buffer that the set upper Hillside

1:00:14 ↗ Cemetery can't build in but that 50-foot

1:00:17 ↗ buffer which is a portion of the park

1:00:20 ↗ um and having a trail go through that so

1:00:22 ↗ separating this conflict of recreational

1:00:24 ↗ use and Cemetery customers and so that

1:00:30 ↗ project will be part of this project

1:00:32 ↗ Brad it would be one of the same and

1:00:35 ↗ we'll continue to keep the cemetery

1:00:37 ↗ board in the loop on that on that

1:00:40 ↗ project and making sure again we're

1:00:42 ↗ we're seeking to solve a historical

1:00:45 ↗ Conflict by by moving that moving that

1:00:48 ↗ trail

1:00:51 ↗ thank you sorry

1:00:53 ↗ [Music]

1:00:57 ↗ okay Tim

1:01:03 ↗ thank you and I appreciate all the works

1:01:06 ↗ that's been done on this this is a issue

1:01:08 ↗ that's very near and dear to my heart

1:01:10 ↗ part of the reason I joined the Parks

1:01:12 ↗ Board it's a block from my house I'm

1:01:14 ↗ down there twice a day

1:01:16 ↗ I talked to the people I see what goes

1:01:18 ↗ on and there are several points I'd like

1:01:21 ↗ to bring up

1:01:23 ↗ uh first if some of you haven't been to

1:01:25 ↗ the park I invite you to just go go to

1:01:28 ↗ the park go look at it

1:01:30 ↗ and I think if you do that you will see

1:01:33 ↗ that this big open field of course a big

1:01:35 ↗ wide open grassy field on this mountain

1:01:38 ↗ is not natural at some point all the

1:01:40 ↗ trees were cut the stumps were pulled it

1:01:42 ↗ was graded and it was graded properly it

1:01:45 ↗ drains back on itself basically you can

1:01:48 ↗ just stand there and look at and be like

1:01:49 ↗ oh yeah they didn't grade it right and

1:01:51 ↗ that created the Wetland situation which

1:01:53 ↗ I think surprised everyone when they did

1:01:54 ↗ the study that this improper grading

1:01:58 ↗ created what is now a

1:02:00 ↗ by definition a wetland but that's what

1:02:03 ↗ it is

1:02:04 ↗ but when you go to the park what I

1:02:06 ↗ invite you to do is stand outside the

1:02:08 ↗ entrance and look and what you'll see is

1:02:11 ↗ two things one is there is no parking

1:02:13 ↗ other than on the street in front of

1:02:15 ↗ people's houses there's not a small

1:02:17 ↗ parking lot there's not a large parking

1:02:19 ↗ lot there's not a parking lot nearby

1:02:21 ↗ there's just parking in front of

1:02:23 ↗ people's houses

1:02:24 ↗ and

1:02:25 ↗ I think that really needs to be kept in

1:02:28 ↗ mind that this is a walk-in Park there's

1:02:31 ↗ not even sidewalks you might think well

1:02:33 ↗ kids can go down there and play there's

1:02:35 ↗ no sidewalks on the street for kids to

1:02:37 ↗ safely get down there you have to walk

1:02:39 ↗ through the street

1:02:40 ↗ okay I think what I'm getting at with

1:02:43 ↗ this is while I think the design is

1:02:45 ↗ beautiful

1:02:46 ↗ I think it's going to create more

1:02:49 ↗ traffic coming in there and what we're

1:02:50 ↗ going to be faced with is a lot of irate

1:02:53 ↗ people that live on that street I think

1:02:55 ↗ it's about McKinley that have people

1:02:58 ↗ parking in front of their houses

1:02:59 ↗ consistently just tonight I walk down

1:03:02 ↗ there about an hour before the meeting

1:03:04 ↗ and there were a few families down there

1:03:06 ↗ practicing some flag football routines

1:03:08 ↗ there were three cars parked right in

1:03:11 ↗ front where it says no parking allowed

1:03:14 ↗ because that's the only place there was

1:03:16 ↗ for them to be

1:03:17 ↗ so I think we have to be very careful

1:03:19 ↗ about making this look pretty and make

1:03:22 ↗ it interactive making a place that more

1:03:24 ↗ people want to come to because you can't

1:03:26 ↗ really get there unless you walk in

1:03:29 ↗ um

1:03:30 ↗ I think it's I think it's it's kind of

1:03:33 ↗ lost in the discussion many times

1:03:35 ↗ but I think for people that live very

1:03:38 ↗ close to the park it's a very important

1:03:40 ↗ piece of it

1:03:41 ↗ one of the neighbors that lives two

1:03:43 ↗ doors from the park happened to be out

1:03:44 ↗ this evening as I walked by and I just

1:03:46 ↗ ask him I said what do you think about

1:03:48 ↗ that he said he's a terrible idea I said

1:03:50 ↗ he said because

1:03:52 ↗ where are they going to park they're

1:03:53 ↗ going to have people coming here and

1:03:55 ↗ there's no place for them to park

1:03:57 ↗ so I want to put that out there

1:04:02 ↗ the second thing is

1:04:03 ↗ I think you know there's a whole science

1:04:06 ↗ and art form around survey questions

1:04:11 ↗ and asking the right question to get to

1:04:14 ↗ information that you really want

1:04:16 ↗ and I think the question that we asked

1:04:20 ↗ was important but is incomplete because

1:04:24 ↗ it says does it balance the nature and

1:04:27 ↗ play there's something about balance in

1:04:29 ↗ there it doesn't say is this design what

1:04:32 ↗ you want

1:04:33 ↗ or extrapolating that to say 75 to 85 of

1:04:37 ↗ people this is what they want

1:04:39 ↗ they didn't say it's what they wanted

1:04:40 ↗ they said they think it balances it

1:04:43 ↗ and I wonder if you showed them

1:04:46 ↗ the existing

1:04:49 ↗ proposal along with an identical

1:04:51 ↗ proposal but no play structure so a lot

1:04:54 ↗ of the attraction goes out of it but the

1:04:56 ↗ trails are improved the wetlands

1:04:57 ↗ mitigated uh the trail through the

1:05:00 ↗ cemetery is completed

1:05:01 ↗ but that magnet for families to come

1:05:04 ↗ with their kids is taken out

1:05:05 ↗ what would they

1:05:07 ↗ so I would say be careful how we

1:05:09 ↗ extrapolate the answers to that one

1:05:11 ↗ question that ask about balance and not

1:05:14 ↗ about is this what you want

1:05:17 ↗ so

1:05:19 ↗ I don't know how that would come out I

1:05:21 ↗ know there's been a lot of community

1:05:22 ↗ engagement I know that

1:05:24 ↗ Parks Board and Jennifer and Jeff you've

1:05:27 ↗ bent over backwards to talk to people

1:05:29 ↗ [Music]

1:05:31 ↗ personal feedback from someone that goes

1:05:33 ↗ there all the time and talks to people

1:05:35 ↗ is

1:05:37 ↗ just about flicked

1:05:39 ↗ on what you just described most people I

1:05:42 ↗ talk to are like yeah I don't think so

1:05:45 ↗ so

1:05:46 ↗ I have to put that out there

1:05:48 ↗ except I'm there all the time

1:05:51 ↗ and I just think these are perspectives

1:05:54 ↗ that

1:05:56 ↗ could slip through the cracks and we

1:05:58 ↗ need to think about it before we go

1:06:00 ↗ ahead and push it in through permitting

1:06:02 ↗ and make a decision so

1:06:04 ↗ that's it I'm done

1:06:12 ↗ Marley

1:06:16 ↗ I'm gonna respectfully make a

1:06:18 ↗ Counterpoint

1:06:19 ↗ um to some of the things that Tim

1:06:21 ↗ brought up I think

1:06:23 ↗ when we talked to people in the

1:06:25 ↗ neighborhood in that last summer right

1:06:28 ↗ there was definitely that issue of

1:06:29 ↗ parking came up right and I think that

1:06:32 ↗ is

1:06:33 ↗ interesting however I also think people

1:06:35 ↗ don't own the parking on a city street

1:06:37 ↗ so

1:06:39 ↗ I cannot control who parks on my street

1:06:41 ↗ people park in front of my house all the

1:06:43 ↗ time like that's just part of being part

1:06:46 ↗ of a community so I think

1:06:48 ↗ you know I think there are people been

1:06:50 ↗ out of shape about people parking on

1:06:51 ↗ their street but I'm not sure that

1:06:53 ↗ that's really

1:06:55 ↗ I mean they don't own that street I also

1:06:58 ↗ live in a neighborhood that has an HOA

1:07:00 ↗ and we have a private park right so I

1:07:03 ↗ also feel like in a private park

1:07:04 ↗ environment we have much more control

1:07:06 ↗ over how we want that Park to be used

1:07:09 ↗ here we have

1:07:11 ↗ City dollars in a public park it's not a

1:07:13 ↗ private park for that neighborhood so I

1:07:15 ↗ think we need to think about

1:07:17 ↗ how does the entire Community utilize

1:07:20 ↗ that space

1:07:22 ↗ so I think they're always going to be

1:07:23 ↗ the folks who don't want anything to

1:07:25 ↗ change there are also going to be the

1:07:27 ↗ people who want to utilize public

1:07:29 ↗ amenities so we need to balance those

1:07:30 ↗ two things out

1:07:32 ↗ just to offer a Counterpoint of somebody

1:07:35 ↗ who also lives on the mountain and whose

1:07:37 ↗ kids use that space

1:07:39 ↗ I just want to add one one point

1:07:43 ↗ um you know though there's one main

1:07:45 ↗ entrance to the park that's where the

1:07:47 ↗ park naming sign is

1:07:50 ↗ um other neighborhoods within the area

1:07:52 ↗ do have access to this Park via Trails

1:07:55 ↗ so they are able to come down their

1:07:57 ↗ streets and do access from various areas

1:08:00 ↗ within the park and this this is the

1:08:03 ↗ closest

1:08:04 ↗ play area other than Tibbetts Valley

1:08:06 ↗ Park for the neighborhood so just to

1:08:10 ↗ bring that up and I'm just the survey

1:08:12 ↗ said that too it's asked how you got

1:08:14 ↗ there and what different routes they

1:08:16 ↗ took yep

1:08:20 ↗ other thoughts yeah so I also have

1:08:23 ↗ another one squawk Mountain there's a

1:08:24 ↗ lot of us here apparently I have no idea

1:08:27 ↗ I'm on the side that's closest to the

1:08:30 ↗ Fish Hatchery so like not really

1:08:32 ↗ anywhere near this and yet my kids walk

1:08:34 ↗ to this park they walk without me

1:08:36 ↗ they're regularly it's on their path to

1:08:38 ↗ go revisiting other people they know I

1:08:41 ↗ guess it's dangerous I feel like there

1:08:43 ↗ are sidewalks

1:08:44 ↗ um but certainly one of the reasons when

1:08:46 ↗ I first discovered the park I found it

1:08:47 ↗ on a Google map

1:08:49 ↗ and you know I was surprised it was

1:08:51 ↗ there to be honest because you can't see

1:08:52 ↗ it from anywhere and I went to go find

1:08:54 ↗ parking and found that a lot and so I

1:08:56 ↗ decided uh we should just walk from now

1:08:58 ↗ on that's kind of how we use it

1:09:01 ↗ um so just you know I'm another neighbor

1:09:02 ↗ I live quite I think it's probably half

1:09:05 ↗ a mile to walk there

1:09:06 ↗ um one of the things I really want to

1:09:07 ↗ make a comment on is I think I remember

1:09:09 ↗ somebody coming to the Parks Board and

1:09:11 ↗ commenting about this park being a more

1:09:13 ↗ Regional Trail connection between the

1:09:17 ↗ three different mountains as kind of a

1:09:19 ↗ note or a hub or make connect down to

1:09:22 ↗ power line Trails or something that gets

1:09:25 ↗ over to Cougar somehow

1:09:26 ↗ you might miss remembering that

1:09:30 ↗ no

1:09:31 ↗ um David kapler with uh Isabel Alps

1:09:34 ↗ Trails Club I think spoke to some of the

1:09:36 ↗ bigger connectivity opportunities up and

1:09:38 ↗ over squawk using the power lines some

1:09:41 ↗ of the the other Trail connections

1:09:44 ↗ planned near Tibbetts Valley Park

1:09:47 ↗ um and uh so yeah I don't know that I

1:09:50 ↗ would categorize it a hub but there are

1:09:52 ↗ Trail connection opportunities as we

1:09:55 ↗ start looking at squawk and and trails

1:09:57 ↗ up and over squawk not this park though

1:09:59 ↗ not this okay this park could be a

1:10:03 ↗ sort of pearl on that necklace right but

1:10:07 ↗ not a

1:10:08 ↗ it wouldn't be a Trailhead or you know

1:10:10 ↗ anything that would require those kind

1:10:12 ↗ of

1:10:13 ↗ facilities okay because again it is a

1:10:16 ↗ walk-in Park yeah I just thought that

1:10:17 ↗ was really interesting when he said it

1:10:19 ↗ and also you know just before shut up

1:10:22 ↗ here Tim to your point

1:10:25 ↗ um

1:10:26 ↗ you know

1:10:27 ↗ it it's not always awesome to have

1:10:30 ↗ people in your space when you don't want

1:10:31 ↗ them there but how much is too much

1:10:33 ↗ um yeah I mean I share my cul-de-sac

1:10:35 ↗ with a bunch of folks and we got cars

1:10:37 ↗ coming in all days and I don't say

1:10:39 ↗ anything to them because I figured

1:10:40 ↗ they'll be there until they want to

1:10:41 ↗ leave and then they'll go like so

1:10:43 ↗ I just want I really appreciate the

1:10:46 ↗ discussion Tim and Marlene and Nicholas

1:10:49 ↗ as well you know this is

1:10:52 ↗ a neighborhood park like this is a real

1:10:54 ↗ Balancing Act and and I I hope what

1:10:56 ↗ we're demonstrating and into whatever

1:10:58 ↗ degree we're moving into the next phase

1:11:02 ↗ uh we really are trying to respect and

1:11:06 ↗ understand and and acknowledge this is a

1:11:09 ↗ walk-in Park and so as we think of scale

1:11:12 ↗ of a scale of play and scale of

1:11:15 ↗ amenities this is really of a scale that

1:11:17 ↗ is not meant to be a city destination

1:11:19 ↗ it's not meant to be a community park

1:11:22 ↗ it's really meant to be of a a play

1:11:24 ↗ scale that really supports the the

1:11:28 ↗ neighborhoods that surround that that

1:11:31 ↗ Park and really you know with that 40

1:11:33 ↗ acres there are a lot of different

1:11:34 ↗ neighborhoods that are within walking

1:11:36 ↗ distance

1:11:38 ↗ um of that space so we're really trying

1:11:40 ↗ to find that sweet spot of

1:11:42 ↗ of really hearing and respecting both of

1:11:45 ↗ those really important perspectives I

1:11:47 ↗ think it shows in that a year ago they

1:11:51 ↗ were more 50 50. and for us to get to 75

1:11:54 ↗ 25 kind of the whole other group or

1:11:57 ↗ something like that that's big

1:11:59 ↗ Improvement and I'm quite impressed that

1:12:01 ↗ we have that really you have balanced it

1:12:04 ↗ so that so well that many people are

1:12:07 ↗ agreeing trying to find that consensus

1:12:09 ↗ yeah Chris did you have a kind of

1:12:11 ↗ question

1:12:14 ↗ yeah thank you

1:12:17 ↗ um I was just thinking it might be good

1:12:20 ↗ Jennifer or Jeff if you could right just

1:12:24 ↗ a quick summary

1:12:26 ↗ uh the status of existing trails that

1:12:30 ↗ enter the park

1:12:32 ↗ um

1:12:33 ↗ connect to it and how many of those are

1:12:36 ↗ official or you know formal and is there

1:12:40 ↗ any part of the plan either now or in

1:12:42 ↗ the future to formalize what might be

1:12:46 ↗ informal uh part of it is to

1:12:50 ↗ maintain its accessibility to the people

1:12:52 ↗ that live immediately around it who use

1:12:54 ↗ it the most

1:12:55 ↗ uh but also to disperse some of the load

1:12:58 ↗ um you know of people that might drive

1:13:00 ↗ to visit or walk or whatever

1:13:03 ↗ um and I know that just from where I

1:13:05 ↗ live on squawk Mountain just a little

1:13:06 ↗ further up we have access

1:13:12 ↗ and we get people that come in park and

1:13:15 ↗ most of the time almost all the time

1:13:17 ↗ it's never been a problem but I also

1:13:20 ↗ know that understand the sentiment of

1:13:23 ↗ you know who are these people that

1:13:25 ↗ aren't normal to my neighborhood parking

1:13:26 ↗ here and what are the you know are they

1:13:28 ↗ up to no good are they uh they're just

1:13:30 ↗ putting into the trails that I like to

1:13:31 ↗ enjoy so I guess maybe a little info

1:13:33 ↗ about the trails uh specific to this

1:13:36 ↗ area

1:13:37 ↗ um would be great

1:13:39 ↗ thank you no I appreciate that that

1:13:41 ↗ question Chris and it it I guess teased

1:13:44 ↗ up what I was going to say in the

1:13:45 ↗ director's report under the the budget

1:13:46 ↗ so as it those of you that are budget

1:13:49 ↗ wonks and love diving into you know 60

1:13:51 ↗ page proposed budgets um I got a cheat

1:13:54 ↗ sheet for you so one of the capital

1:13:56 ↗ projects on page 74

1:13:59 ↗ um is called the hillside Park loop

1:14:02 ↗ trail and so we do know

1:14:05 ↗ um there are a number of informal

1:14:08 ↗ wherever some of those Street ends on

1:14:12 ↗ the south side of the park there have

1:14:15 ↗ been sort of makeshift Trail connections

1:14:17 ↗ neighborhood connections that have been

1:14:18 ↗ made uh you might recall a couple months

1:14:21 ↗ ago we recently made a pretty strategic

1:14:24 ↗ purchase of one and a half acres on the

1:14:27 ↗ south

1:14:29 ↗ east corner of Hillside Park uh that

1:14:33 ↗ creates another opportunity for a Spur

1:14:35 ↗ Trail Connection in our partners at

1:14:38 ↗ Public Works just completed a sewer line

1:14:41 ↗ or a water line I'm not sure which of

1:14:43 ↗ the two lines one of the two lines

1:14:45 ↗ um sort of on the on the eastern and the

1:14:48 ↗ lower Hill of Hillside Park so all this

1:14:51 ↗ to say is we've seen all this happening

1:14:53 ↗ and made some of these Acquisitions what

1:14:55 ↗ we're proposing with that that project

1:14:57 ↗ is to finally create formalize a loop

1:15:00 ↗ trail around the entire park and really

1:15:03 ↗ allow that loop trail to become that

1:15:06 ↗ connection and imagine the loop with a

1:15:09 ↗ bunch of spokes that come off of it so

1:15:11 ↗ there are ways to connect to that loop

1:15:13 ↗ on the southwest corner of the park or

1:15:16 ↗ and on the the actual you know Hillside

1:15:19 ↗ Park portion of the park and

1:15:21 ↗ solving this conflict with the cemetery

1:15:23 ↗ so that there's recreational use around

1:15:25 ↗ the upper Hillside Cemetery without

1:15:27 ↗ conflicting with the cemetery there

1:15:29 ↗ really really is

1:15:31 ↗ some opportunity that's beginning to

1:15:33 ↗ coalesce to formalize that loop trail

1:15:35 ↗ the request is for some design money in

1:15:38 ↗ 23 and then some construction money in

1:15:41 ↗ 24. so a way to sort of take that work

1:15:45 ↗ and I thought and align it with with

1:15:47 ↗ this project hopefully support some of

1:15:50 ↗ that some of that neighborhood

1:15:52 ↗ connectivity around around the 40 acres

1:15:57 ↗ which would make it easier for walking

1:15:58 ↗ exactly so really supporting supporting

1:16:01 ↗ that idea of further that walking into

1:16:04 ↗ this recreational space

1:16:06 ↗ yeah just just one final comment on the

1:16:09 ↗ parking so I don't live on squawk

1:16:10 ↗ mountains

1:16:12 ↗ so you're gonna drive to this park

1:16:16 ↗ ing

1:16:18 ↗ and I live in cougar will think oh

1:16:21 ↗ there's 10 spaces I will have parking

1:16:23 ↗ there so I'm gonna go there so you might

1:16:25 ↗ invite even more people to come to your

1:16:27 ↗ community by building parking in there

1:16:29 ↗ so just a comment on that versus walk-in

1:16:31 ↗ yeah yeah

1:16:35 ↗ but I would say I think as a Park Board

1:16:37 ↗ you know I think one of our goals is to

1:16:38 ↗ get more people outside in using Parts

1:16:40 ↗ sure so I also don't want to be like oh

1:16:42 ↗ let's try not to make people use a part

1:16:44 ↗ that's great like we don't want to spend

1:16:45 ↗ nine hundred thousand dollars to a whole

1:16:47 ↗ bunch of people not use the park right

1:16:48 ↗ like that's not our goal right so I

1:16:50 ↗ think to your point like yes it is

1:16:53 ↗ definitely used by The Neighborhood

1:16:54 ↗ mostly but I also don't think we want to

1:16:56 ↗ be exclusionary I mean that's a

1:16:58 ↗ beautiful Park for If you haven't been

1:16:59 ↗ there you feel like you're in the woods

1:17:00 ↗ but there's a beautiful like

1:17:03 ↗ field to to play at it's really unique

1:17:05 ↗ and beautiful and I think protecting

1:17:07 ↗ that character while allowing more

1:17:09 ↗ people to use it in a way that is

1:17:12 ↗ thoughtful to the neighborhood I think

1:17:14 ↗ is is what we're trying to achieve I've

1:17:16 ↗ never discussed a gondola yeah

1:17:22 ↗ about how this whole process actually

1:17:26 ↗ initiated because I'm not sure when in

1:17:30 ↗ the very beginning

1:17:32 ↗ did the neighborhood come to the city

1:17:34 ↗ and say we want play equipment in or did

1:17:36 ↗ the city come to the neighborhood say do

1:17:38 ↗ you want play equipment put in

1:17:41 ↗ I don't know the answer to that

1:17:43 ↗ so it sounds like there was engagement

1:17:45 ↗ this predates me but in 2013 2014 there

1:17:49 ↗ were neighborhood conversations about

1:17:50 ↗ what to do with Hillside park there were

1:17:52 ↗ a number of

1:17:53 ↗ requests by The Neighborhood Trail

1:17:56 ↗ improvements

1:17:58 ↗ field drainage some of the vegetation

1:18:01 ↗ clearing that as well as plague this

1:18:04 ↗ idea that hey we you know all these all

1:18:07 ↗ these new parts that are being built

1:18:08 ↗ over at Israel Highlands and other

1:18:10 ↗ places in town have a play area this

1:18:12 ↗ park doesn't

1:18:14 ↗ um I I know even as I look at the notes

1:18:17 ↗ from those meetings that

1:18:19 ↗ created a little bit of neighborhood

1:18:21 ↗ tension as some residents near that Park

1:18:24 ↗ really wanted a place for their kids to

1:18:26 ↗ play and others said absolutely not and

1:18:30 ↗ so the origin of

1:18:32 ↗ of of this conversation this project was

1:18:35 ↗ really born out of that work uh City

1:18:37 ↗ Council Members

1:18:39 ↗ um some who live on squawk Mountain

1:18:40 ↗ hearing and being aware of that project

1:18:42 ↗ really saw this as a priority uh to yeah

1:18:46 ↗ how to incorporate the appropriate scale

1:18:49 ↗ of play into this neighborhood park like

1:18:52 ↗ is provided for other other parts of his

1:18:56 ↗ support

1:18:57 ↗ okay thank you and you know I just for

1:19:00 ↗ the record I just think we need to

1:19:01 ↗ remember that kids have been planted

1:19:03 ↗ that park for Generations uh and

1:19:06 ↗ supposed to say incorporating play we're

1:19:08 ↗ talking about putting in designated

1:19:10 ↗ playground equipment the the woods and

1:19:12 ↗ the rocks and the fields have been

1:19:15 ↗ used for play for Generations but of

1:19:18 ↗ course of course absolutely

1:19:22 ↗ Danielle did you have a comment question

1:19:26 ↗ um I've been on the Park Court since

1:19:27 ↗ probably

1:19:29 ↗ 2000 uh five maybe and this is the third

1:19:32 ↗ or fourth time that we've talked about

1:19:34 ↗ this so it's come up a number of times

1:19:36 ↗ over the years

1:19:38 ↗ um

1:19:39 ↗ and and from the community

1:19:41 ↗ yeah

1:19:42 ↗ [Music]

1:19:45 ↗ when you say this Danielle this being

1:19:48 ↗ improving the hillside Park amenities

1:19:51 ↗ yeah yeah Park amenities getting

1:19:54 ↗ you know play you know

1:19:57 ↗ um

1:19:58 ↗ you know

1:19:59 ↗ yeah improve improving the park and um

1:20:03 ↗ in the same way that we have made other

1:20:05 ↗ improvements to other neighborhood and

1:20:07 ↗ Community Parks over the years so and

1:20:10 ↗ you know we get to a point we've gotten

1:20:13 ↗ to a point where you know people just

1:20:15 ↗ kind of get into a stalemate and then

1:20:17 ↗ nothing happens so

1:20:19 ↗ um

1:20:20 ↗ you know yes people have played in there

1:20:22 ↗ for generations and years but there's

1:20:25 ↗ also been a desire over the years

1:20:28 ↗ um

1:20:29 ↗ far back as 2005 at least um to do

1:20:32 ↗ something about it

1:20:34 ↗ it'll be their kids

1:20:40 ↗ all good points wow

1:20:46 ↗ um so

1:20:47 ↗ um are we prepared to make a decision as

1:20:50 ↗ a parts board with regards to

1:20:53 ↗ um I guess moving forward with this uh

1:20:56 ↗ concept design

1:20:58 ↗ I would like to make a motion to move

1:21:00 ↗ forward with the concept designs as

1:21:03 ↗ presented by the park

1:21:06 ↗ one second okay so I guess we'll take a

1:21:10 ↗ boat to uh everybody who's interested in

1:21:15 ↗ um having this concept design be

1:21:17 ↗ proposed to raise your hand

1:21:19 ↗ we can invite discussion what's up

1:21:31 ↗ taking a moment for discussion and also

1:21:34 ↗ getting Clarity on who's voting report

1:21:36 ↗ yeah okay okay

1:21:40 ↗ motions on the table open it up for

1:21:42 ↗ discussion okay yeah any further

1:21:44 ↗ discussion

1:21:45 ↗ do uh the motion

1:21:52 ↗ [Music]

1:21:55 ↗ can I add one one thought just through

1:21:57 ↗ the motion friendly Amendment suggestion

1:22:00 ↗ knowing again this is conceptual design

1:22:03 ↗ but if you are supporting this

1:22:05 ↗ conceptual design maybe in the motion

1:22:07 ↗ understanding that it's moving forward

1:22:09 ↗ into

1:22:11 ↗ design and permitting it's not you're

1:22:13 ↗ not you're not taking an action tonight

1:22:15 ↗ that's going to construct this

1:22:17 ↗ just

1:22:18 ↗ as a as a point of clarity do I need to

1:22:22 ↗ repurpose the notion

1:22:25 ↗ suddenly

1:22:28 ↗ yeah okay

1:22:32 ↗ [Laughter]

1:22:37 ↗ okay

1:22:39 ↗ so I would propose a motion to move to

1:22:44 ↗ concept permitting is that what it is

1:22:46 ↗ how about can I say yes how about um the

1:22:49 ↗ parkboard supports the concept design

1:22:52 ↗ and moving it Forward into design and

1:22:56 ↗ permitting

1:23:02 ↗ thank you

1:23:04 ↗ more eloquently than me for sure thank

1:23:06 ↗ you

1:23:09 ↗ okay

1:23:12 ↗ and another second all right

1:23:15 ↗ and uh any further discussion with the

1:23:18 ↗ rephrasing

1:23:21 ↗ Patricia given we have people here and

1:23:24 ↗ almost how would you suggest taking a is

1:23:28 ↗ it a show of hands or so I um and I'd

1:23:31 ↗ like to confirm I have this right I

1:23:33 ↗ believe is Nicholas

1:23:45 ↗ Andrew e okay so that means we have one

1:23:48 ↗ regular member who's not present so we

1:23:52 ↗ will need one alternate to vote

1:23:55 ↗ we have three alternates present so

1:23:58 ↗ um there isn't a precise process for

1:24:01 ↗ determining which of you we could

1:24:03 ↗ default to the person in the room

1:24:05 ↗ could be one approach

1:24:08 ↗ um

1:24:09 ↗ which would be Andrew is that right

1:24:12 ↗ that's correct okay so I might suggest

1:24:15 ↗ suggest that is one um as one option and

1:24:19 ↗ then it might it might be nice to do to

1:24:21 ↗ call everyone's names just because we

1:24:23 ↗ had our mixed attendance sure okay

1:24:27 ↗ let me know if you want me to help with

1:24:29 ↗ that all right I can call call The

1:24:31 ↗ Neighbors okay so um no further

1:24:34 ↗ discussion with regards to that I'll

1:24:36 ↗ move forward with picking the boat so

1:24:38 ↗ when I call your name

1:24:40 ↗ um please just say uh whether you are in

1:24:43 ↗ in favor of of the uh proposed motion or

1:24:48 ↗ against

1:24:50 ↗ uh Chris

1:24:53 ↗ I'm in favor of it

1:24:55 ↗ okay Marlene in paper okay uh I'm in

1:24:59 ↗ favor

1:25:00 ↗ um Andrew yes okay David yep all right

1:25:04 ↗ Nicholas support

1:25:06 ↗ okay Brenda yes all right Katie

1:25:10 ↗ in favor

1:25:12 ↗ okay

1:25:13 ↗ [Music]

1:25:16 ↗ I'm against it

1:25:18 ↗ all right okay and

1:25:21 ↗ um Rider Danielle is alternates do you

1:25:25 ↗ think about Alternatives

1:25:28 ↗ we're Andrew I think yeah isn't it in

1:25:32 ↗ the room yeah

1:25:34 ↗ yeah okay okay so

1:25:39 ↗ um all right so I'm sorry chair can I

1:25:41 ↗ confirm so did David vote yeah yes yes

1:25:45 ↗ and then Andrew Myers yes they are yes

1:25:49 ↗ as well okay so just for the record I

1:25:52 ↗ that was eight yes is one no eight to

1:25:54 ↗ one yeah it's an ocean

1:25:57 ↗ that sounds good

1:25:59 ↗ thank you everybody for the discussion

1:26:03 ↗ um again as as this passes this gate and

1:26:06 ↗ now moves into design permitting there

1:26:08 ↗ will be a lot of design work that's

1:26:10 ↗ going to happen but as we get an

1:26:12 ↗ understanding of the permitting path

1:26:15 ↗ um as as Jen mentioned we are going to

1:26:17 ↗ now be entering permitting process with

1:26:20 ↗ Army Corps of Engineers with State

1:26:22 ↗ Department of ecology and with our own

1:26:24 ↗ permitting department so we've already

1:26:27 ↗ begun some of those conversations to

1:26:28 ↗ figure out what that that maze looks

1:26:30 ↗ like

1:26:31 ↗ we'll certainly keep you informed as we

1:26:34 ↗ get in a good idea of what that that

1:26:35 ↗ calendar looks like also making sure as

1:26:39 ↗ we get design details and understand

1:26:42 ↗ what those agencies prefer us to do

1:26:45 ↗ mitigation sites How We Do mitigation

1:26:48 ↗ making sure we keep you all informed but

1:26:51 ↗ we've made a really firm commitment to

1:26:53 ↗ keeping that neighborhood informed as as

1:26:56 ↗ though those details move forward part

1:26:58 ↗ of the city permitting process there is

1:27:01 ↗ a environmental meeting that will need

1:27:04 ↗ as the applicant as the developer will

1:27:07 ↗ have host an environmental meeting once

1:27:10 ↗ we really start to have all those those

1:27:11 ↗ details put together so one more work

1:27:14 ↗ ahead and at that meeting our consultant

1:27:16 ↗ teams are there to help answer any

1:27:18 ↗ technical questions or detailed elements

1:27:20 ↗ of that may arise

1:27:24 ↗ well I think Danielle had her hand up

1:27:26 ↗ and Danielle did you have a comment yes

1:27:30 ↗ just before we completely move on I just

1:27:32 ↗ want to and I kind of feel like a broken

1:27:34 ↗ record here but um just in respects to

1:27:37 ↗ what

1:27:38 ↗ Tim had um spoken about the surveys

1:27:42 ↗ um I would really really love it if

1:27:45 ↗ um surveys could be previewed by the

1:27:47 ↗ park board when they go out to the whole

1:27:50 ↗ Community because I feel like it's a

1:27:52 ↗ consistent theme over the years that um

1:27:54 ↗ when we get survey results back there

1:27:57 ↗ are questions that perhaps we would be

1:28:00 ↗ asking to help inspect our decisions or

1:28:04 ↗ like follow-up questions and whatnot so

1:28:07 ↗ if there's any way to sort of preview

1:28:09 ↗ those surveys I think it would be really

1:28:11 ↗ helpful for all of us in making our

1:28:14 ↗ decisions you know better informed and

1:28:16 ↗ easier to make

1:28:21 ↗ thank you thanks for that

1:28:24 ↗ all right uh so moving on we're a little

1:28:29 ↗ a little behind seven yes

1:28:35 ↗ this is another big topic so I will um

1:28:38 ↗ do my best hang on just one moment while

1:28:42 ↗ I share my screen

1:28:47 ↗ so this is the um

1:28:50 ↗ Community investment strategy

1:28:54 ↗ uh in your packet tonight oops I'm sorry

1:28:58 ↗ um

1:29:00 ↗ so as we had talked about last month

1:29:03 ↗ Council has asked us uh to

1:29:08 ↗ come to you to help

1:29:10 ↗ figure out some Criterion and provide

1:29:15 ↗ some rationale and feedback as to how we

1:29:17 ↗ might invest four million dollars of

1:29:19 ↗ arpa which is American Rescue Act

1:29:22 ↗ or American Rescue plan act uh dollars

1:29:27 ↗ into the park system

1:29:29 ↗ and so through that

1:29:32 ↗ um we're gonna city council will have

1:29:34 ↗ further discussions as part of the

1:29:36 ↗ budget process going on

1:29:39 ↗ and at our prior meetings we had talked

1:29:43 ↗ about the Criterion he was a board had

1:29:46 ↗ created an ad hoc committee

1:29:49 ↗ um that has been really active in

1:29:51 ↗ meeting over four times to help uh get

1:29:55 ↗ us to what we're going to be presenting

1:29:56 ↗ tonight

1:29:58 ↗ um but we ensure it ended up creating a

1:30:00 ↗ matrix with some of these Criterion and

1:30:03 ↗ really digging in on all the potential

1:30:04 ↗ projects

1:30:06 ↗ um you know the project level of

1:30:08 ↗ Readiness and critical areas

1:30:11 ↗ economic benefits Community Access what

1:30:14 ↗ are our connections to other parks

1:30:16 ↗ phasings and multiple other

1:30:18 ↗ considerations that we need to include

1:30:22 ↗ including providing year-round impactful

1:30:26 ↗ Park elements into our city system and I

1:30:30 ↗ thought a really good discussion not

1:30:32 ↗ only with ad hoc but the full Park board

1:30:33 ↗ at our at the meeting last month in

1:30:36 ↗ terms of the The Matrix right and

1:30:39 ↗ speaking of

1:30:40 ↗ uh here's a picture of that Matrix and

1:30:45 ↗ um

1:30:46 ↗ we are going to be um

1:30:49 ↗ this is a rolled up summary at the last

1:30:52 ↗ Park board meeting you would ask for a

1:30:53 ↗ few little uh tweaks to be made but this

1:30:56 ↗ is the rolled up the full exploded uh

1:30:58 ↗ Matrix is in your packet but this is a

1:31:01 ↗ rolled up Matrix of all the different

1:31:03 ↗ categories

1:31:04 ↗ um I mentioned as far as a Criterion and

1:31:07 ↗ using a green light yellow light red

1:31:11 ↗ light

1:31:12 ↗ um

1:31:13 ↗ scenario kind of what's green being easy

1:31:16 ↗ or readily achievable yellow and there's

1:31:19 ↗ some hurdles that we can still do uh you

1:31:22 ↗ see one kind of orange lighter orange

1:31:24 ↗ color in there under Issaquah Creek

1:31:25 ↗ Quarter that means a little more

1:31:27 ↗ complicated but not quite a full red and

1:31:30 ↗ then we have

1:31:32 ↗ um items that were red or very difficult

1:31:34 ↗ for us to achieve at this very point in

1:31:37 ↗ time

1:31:38 ↗ and so at the end of our last meeting we

1:31:41 ↗ really

1:31:42 ↗ decided to focus on three different

1:31:45 ↗ parks and that was the Veterans Memorial

1:31:48 ↗ Field which included the senior center

1:31:50 ↗ Depot Park and pedestrian Park as well

1:31:53 ↗ as the Issaquah Creek Corner

1:31:56 ↗ and Confluence Park

1:32:01 ↗ there's a bunch of comment there please

1:32:03 ↗ and this is just uh it's more

1:32:04 ↗ administrative yes if we're doing green

1:32:06 ↗ yellow red if we just put g y

1:32:10 ↗ and R maybe in the Matrix of your color

1:32:12 ↗ blind you can create suggestion yes

1:32:16 ↗ really good point you're right

1:32:20 ↗ um some of the additional considerations

1:32:22 ↗ um as discussed in the ad hoc committee

1:32:25 ↗ um as we started working on each of

1:32:27 ↗ these Park spaces is really what is the

1:32:30 ↗ visibility of the project you know is it

1:32:32 ↗ only serving a few user groups or is

1:32:35 ↗ this really a community based

1:32:38 ↗ um also really what is that level of

1:32:40 ↗ Impact versus level of effort

1:32:43 ↗ um is this project going to be have some

1:32:46 ↗ long-term economic benefit is it going

1:32:48 ↗ to stimulate the need for other projects

1:32:51 ↗ and really be that stimulus to help get

1:32:54 ↗ other projects built and funded

1:32:57 ↗ um as kind of a one thing leads to

1:32:58 ↗ another

1:33:00 ↗ um and then also that year-round use

1:33:04 ↗ so with that and we got together with

1:33:07 ↗ methune who is our consultant team

1:33:10 ↗ assisting us and we came up with some

1:33:14 ↗ narratives for each of the projects kind

1:33:17 ↗ of in that Matrix Criterion at the very

1:33:20 ↗ bottom you'll see in some of the early

1:33:22 ↗ work we had done some elements that

1:33:24 ↗ would potentially be in and out of each

1:33:27 ↗ of the park spaces included or not

1:33:29 ↗ included

1:33:30 ↗ um with work with the ad hoc committee

1:33:33 ↗ we were able to focus in on a few of

1:33:35 ↗ those elements to create concepts for

1:33:38 ↗ each of these Parks these are just first

1:33:41 ↗ blushes at what these could bring

1:33:45 ↗ um so first we're going to talk about

1:33:47 ↗ Confluence Park and I am just going to

1:33:49 ↗ read the summary is

1:33:50 ↗ um

1:33:51 ↗ Confluence part the play area nearly

1:33:54 ↗ triples in size to accommodate a new

1:33:56 ↗ signature play structure and additional

1:33:58 ↗ elements expanding the existing Leaf

1:34:02 ↗ shape Motif with two new play areas a

1:34:04 ↗ natured inspired components the existing

1:34:07 ↗ play Boulders are relocated throughout

1:34:09 ↗ the play and new picnic areas for

1:34:11 ↗ climbing and seating

1:34:14 ↗ the eckhouse will be thoughtfully

1:34:15 ↗ reimagined into a picnic shelter as a

1:34:18 ↗ functional Park amenity history of the

1:34:20 ↗ site will be recognized and celebrated

1:34:23 ↗ in a variety of ways a new large picnic

1:34:26 ↗ area between the play zone and the

1:34:27 ↗ eckhouse is shown in leaf shapes with

1:34:31 ↗ specialty plate Paving and a new tree

1:34:33 ↗ additional improvements include new

1:34:35 ↗ edging along the main 12-foot gravel

1:34:38 ↗ paths lighting and the main neighborhood

1:34:40 ↗ connection from third Court to Rainier

1:34:44 ↗ all play areas are carefully designed to

1:34:46 ↗ avoid impacts to existing trees

1:34:50 ↗ and with that

1:34:52 ↗ um

1:34:53 ↗ we have two projects shown here this is

1:34:56 ↗ the Confluence Park at large there has

1:34:59 ↗ been several projects that have occurred

1:35:01 ↗ here over time

1:35:03 ↗ uh some of the remaining work is the

1:35:06 ↗ lighting which you see from the parking

1:35:08 ↗ area if you can see my little hand down

1:35:10 ↗ here from the parking area finishing

1:35:12 ↗ that up to the buffer where it is

1:35:14 ↗ already and then continuing it from this

1:35:16 ↗ trail out to Rainier

1:35:19 ↗ also uh the main 12-foot trails that are

1:35:24 ↗ in the park which are the main

1:35:25 ↗ thoroughfares or veins of access routes

1:35:28 ↗ those would receive

1:35:30 ↗ um some edging material in order to help

1:35:32 ↗ the gravel and Mowing and really give it

1:35:34 ↗ a little more cleaned up look in

1:35:36 ↗ definition

1:35:39 ↗ um

1:35:40 ↗ I'm going to go this this project right

1:35:42 ↗ now is around

1:35:44 ↗ collectively 2.8 to 3 million this next

1:35:48 ↗ slide really focuses in more on the play

1:35:50 ↗ zone

1:35:52 ↗ um there is future parking that is not

1:35:55 ↗ part of this project that is part of

1:35:56 ↗ Greater Street Transportation future

1:35:58 ↗ project but these areas highlighted are

1:36:02 ↗ the impact areas so this is a new

1:36:05 ↗ playground

1:36:06 ↗ that is there now that would remain

1:36:08 ↗ undisturbed for the existing playground

1:36:12 ↗ well it was new back in 2016 when we put

1:36:15 ↗ it in and it's still new to me but it's

1:36:18 ↗ there that's the one that sir that's

1:36:20 ↗ there right so um as we look at

1:36:23 ↗ reimagining that house it would much be

1:36:25 ↗ like in the existing picnic shelter out

1:36:28 ↗ there

1:36:29 ↗ um is memorable of the Anderson old barn

1:36:33 ↗ that was out there the roof line the

1:36:35 ↗ structures there's actually even some

1:36:36 ↗ old lights that are remnants

1:36:39 ↗ um of the barn that they were able to

1:36:40 ↗ salvage and reuse so we do much of the

1:36:43 ↗ same here you know maybe keep a face of

1:36:47 ↗ the eckhouse build out a roof and a

1:36:50 ↗ picnic area Salvage a few items and be

1:36:54 ↗ able to use this more as a gathering

1:36:56 ↗ space out in here we'd add in some

1:36:59 ↗ additional patio and seating areas

1:37:02 ↗ over on this area here and then as we

1:37:04 ↗ reach into the Play Zone we'd really

1:37:07 ↗ start creating some more active expanded

1:37:10 ↗ play areas in the leaf shape patterns

1:37:12 ↗ and enhance those spaces with

1:37:15 ↗ um

1:37:16 ↗ you know vegetation but also ensuring

1:37:19 ↗ that they're all handicapped accessible

1:37:22 ↗ for these areas

1:37:24 ↗ so that is somewhat of the refined

1:37:27 ↗ concept for confluence

1:37:31 ↗ we are going to go on to the dog park

1:37:34 ↗ um

1:37:35 ↗ much has been learned during the

1:37:38 ↗ community discussions about the dog park

1:37:40 ↗ and the recent pop-up dog park tours

1:37:42 ↗ given a variety of land constraints

1:37:45 ↗ within our existing Park plans

1:37:46 ↗ completing one off leash dog park area

1:37:49 ↗ is currently difficult

1:37:51 ↗ rather with this proposal

1:37:54 ↗ recognizes that the community is in need

1:37:56 ↗ for construction of multiple smaller dog

1:37:59 ↗ parks throughout our city system

1:38:01 ↗ the stock Park concept provides nearly

1:38:04 ↗ one third of an acre of dog park play

1:38:07 ↗ Space including a separate area for

1:38:09 ↗ smaller shy dogs the park is

1:38:11 ↗ conveniently located just south of Old

1:38:13 ↗ Town where it can utilize the existing

1:38:16 ↗ Community Center Parking an improved

1:38:18 ↗ gravel path connects users to a new car

1:38:21 ↗ wash station double gated paved entrance

1:38:24 ↗ a bench and drinking fountain or just

1:38:27 ↗ inside the main play area Synthetic Turf

1:38:30 ↗ is used as a surfacing

1:38:32 ↗ um

1:38:33 ↗ to promote uh Santa sanitary conditions

1:38:36 ↗ and as well as easy maintenance with dog

1:38:39 ↗ bark servicing at the southern end where

1:38:42 ↗ among the trees were to provide a little

1:38:45 ↗ more rustic Natural Area

1:38:48 ↗ um

1:38:50 ↗ so with that I say we had an extra water

1:38:52 ↗ in there

1:38:53 ↗ we're going to have water in the side

1:38:55 ↗ for the dogs

1:38:57 ↗ um

1:38:58 ↗ I'm surprising I didn't catch that uh so

1:39:00 ↗ here it is here this is the existing

1:39:02 ↗ Community Center Parking up there and

1:39:05 ↗ this is uh

1:39:07 ↗ for sure this is the Rainier trail that

1:39:10 ↗ comes down here and then right down at

1:39:12 ↗ the bottom here is where there's a trail

1:39:14 ↗ back up to second in the schools so the

1:39:17 ↗ dog park would be nestled in the space

1:39:19 ↗ it currently is if you haven't been

1:39:20 ↗ there right now it's just down the way

1:39:22 ↗ uh but we expand this a little bit right

1:39:25 ↗ now there's no

1:39:27 ↗ um Shire

1:39:28 ↗ small dog area we would include that and

1:39:31 ↗ have a separate fenced area for that and

1:39:34 ↗ then make a large open Improvement area

1:39:36 ↗ here using the artificial turf surface

1:39:39 ↗ and then bark out amongst the trees here

1:39:43 ↗ we'd have trash and recycling have a

1:39:46 ↗ service gate and a power wash station

1:39:48 ↗ over here

1:39:49 ↗ all of these improvements would run in

1:39:52 ↗ the range of 600 to 650 000

1:39:58 ↗ now this is the big one and bear with me

1:40:02 ↗ um as we go through this

1:40:04 ↗ uh Veterans Memorial Consolidated Park

1:40:07 ↗ located in the heart of Old Town

1:40:09 ↗ Issaquah along the Greek Corridor

1:40:11 ↗ renovation of the Consolidated Park

1:40:13 ↗ spaces Park spaces promote Civic

1:40:16 ↗ Gathering connection to Commerce and

1:40:18 ↗ begins to unify disjointed public spaces

1:40:21 ↗ specific features of each space are at

1:40:25 ↗ pedestrian Park the new pedestrian Park

1:40:28 ↗ welcomes visitors from the corner of

1:40:30 ↗ front and sunset with a pair of long

1:40:32 ↗ linear water features with integrated

1:40:35 ↗ seat walls that weave between the

1:40:37 ↗ existing trees drawing Park users toward

1:40:39 ↗ the interior of Depot and Veterans

1:40:41 ↗ Memorial Field

1:40:43 ↗ new brain Gardens capture and filter

1:40:45 ↗ storm water from adjacent buildings and

1:40:48 ↗ Canary lights crisscross the space to

1:40:50 ↗ create a Charming welcoming atmosphere

1:40:52 ↗ a deck is constructed around the large

1:40:55 ↗ existing trees on the northwest side to

1:40:57 ↗ protect the root Zone and to create an

1:41:00 ↗ elevated seating area

1:41:02 ↗ for Depot Park the area between

1:41:04 ↗ pedestrian Park to Depot Park is

1:41:07 ↗ enhanced with the elevated table top

1:41:10 ↗ Crossing so this is where the walkway

1:41:13 ↗ would cross the parking lot area that

1:41:15 ↗ would be a raised tabletop Crossing to

1:41:18 ↗ really provide pedestrians with the

1:41:21 ↗ right-of-way but also slow vehicles

1:41:23 ↗ through that connection

1:41:26 ↗ um

1:41:26 ↗ special papers visitors between the

1:41:29 ↗ large and signature tree there's an

1:41:32 ↗ elevated planter and a step seating area

1:41:35 ↗ with a summer water play area on the

1:41:38 ↗ right there's a lawn not that you can

1:41:41 ↗ see it now but you will in a minute uh

1:41:43 ↗ there's a lawn area some step seating

1:41:46 ↗ slopes with a covered Gathering space

1:41:48 ↗ with winter fire feature that doubles as

1:41:52 ↗ a stage for performances or events all

1:41:55 ↗ lights are hanging from above all lit

1:41:58 ↗ with hanging lights

1:42:00 ↗ uh to the north new rig Gardens buffer

1:42:02 ↗ outdoor dining seating areas with the

1:42:05 ↗ adjacent parking lot

1:42:07 ↗ and over at the senior center the new

1:42:09 ↗ Senior Center

1:42:11 ↗ um

1:42:12 ↗ entrance is open and expanded to

1:42:14 ↗ accommodate major East-West connection

1:42:16 ↗ between the Depot Park and Veterans

1:42:18 ↗ Memorial Field to the geese the new

1:42:21 ↗ Plaza offers a covered Gathering space

1:42:22 ↗ with flexible seating night lighting

1:42:25 ↗ areas to sit around existing trees a new

1:42:28 ↗ Shuffle ball or Bocce courts

1:42:30 ↗ existing Ada parking spaces and Memorial

1:42:36 ↗ flagpole will be relocated with the new

1:42:40 ↗ pads sorry I'm getting a little

1:42:41 ↗ tongue-tied tonight

1:42:49 ↗ so this is all of those elements

1:42:53 ↗ collectively

1:42:55 ↗ um as you will see this is far out of

1:42:58 ↗ our budget so what we did is we broke it

1:43:01 ↗ into three

1:43:03 ↗ um but you can see how all of these

1:43:05 ↗ spaces really start connecting when you

1:43:07 ↗ kind of step back holistically how one

1:43:10 ↗ project leads to another how we're

1:43:14 ↗ really from Depot really accenting that

1:43:18 ↗ connection over to Depot Park to

1:43:20 ↗ pedestrian Park and then also right now

1:43:22 ↗ the senior center there's a couple of

1:43:24 ↗ parking spots right here but by removing

1:43:27 ↗ those few parking spots and really

1:43:29 ↗ creating a nice strong axis really

1:43:32 ↗ promoting activity if you've ever walked

1:43:35 ↗ between there it's really

1:43:37 ↗ not unpleasant or intuitive experience

1:43:41 ↗ and so we're really trying to clean up

1:43:43 ↗ some of that clutter in there right now

1:43:46 ↗ the senior center

1:43:48 ↗ um has a little patio back here but it's

1:43:50 ↗ hidden behind walls um it's very private

1:43:53 ↗ you can't see over it into the play area

1:43:55 ↗ so how can we really start opening this

1:43:58 ↗ side of the senior center up provide

1:44:00 ↗ some outdoor recreational space for the

1:44:02 ↗ senior center as well as Gathering space

1:44:05 ↗ and really make them feel more part of

1:44:07 ↗ the park also as part of that coming off

1:44:10 ↗ this area here would be a trail

1:44:14 ↗ connection an additional Ada Trails

1:44:16 ↗ connection into the existing play area

1:44:19 ↗ so with that let's start drilling into

1:44:22 ↗ each space

1:44:23 ↗ a little bit more

1:44:25 ↗ so pedestrian Park

1:44:28 ↗ as we talked about this would be that

1:44:31 ↗ wood raised wood area with the existing

1:44:34 ↗ trees out in there being kept you can

1:44:37 ↗ see the crisscross of these yellow dots

1:44:40 ↗ here are Camp Nary lighting we'd have

1:44:43 ↗ two linear water features that would

1:44:45 ↗ kind of

1:44:46 ↗ draw you through the space but something

1:44:49 ↗ you could interact with

1:44:51 ↗ we'd have

1:44:52 ↗ um some planters in and around the space

1:44:55 ↗ and um transition and then a nice rain

1:44:59 ↗ garden with our storm water management

1:45:02 ↗ if I could add real quick yeah those

1:45:03 ↗ trees are really those really strong

1:45:05 ↗ Maples provide a really nice canopy and

1:45:09 ↗ have a really really nice feel how do we

1:45:12 ↗ accentuate that yeah this space right

1:45:15 ↗ now currently has a trellis right in the

1:45:17 ↗ middle of it and really is visually kind

1:45:20 ↗ of stops you within that space so by

1:45:24 ↗ opening this up and providing a

1:45:25 ↗ connection

1:45:27 ↗ um this project is about 1.8 to 2.1

1:45:30 ↗ million

1:45:32 ↗ there's a lot of wiggle room Within

1:45:34 ↗ These price pricings but this is our

1:45:37 ↗ best shot in the dark at the moment

1:45:42 ↗ so as we move over to Depot

1:45:45 ↗ um this has a little broader price range

1:45:47 ↗ of four to four point eight million

1:45:49 ↗ um

1:45:50 ↗ but this can also be trimmed down

1:45:52 ↗ relatively easily having worked with the

1:45:54 ↗ ad hoc committee we had looked at some

1:45:56 ↗ areas that we would rather focus on

1:45:59 ↗ um if not but we still feel this is

1:46:02 ↗ doable within the available funds

1:46:05 ↗ uh this area

1:46:07 ↗ will start at the top here this is the

1:46:10 ↗ depot Museum right now and the train

1:46:13 ↗ cars and really provides some outdoor

1:46:15 ↗ flexible seating in here providing some

1:46:17 ↗ rain water rain Gardens for storm water

1:46:22 ↗ over in this area as we come from

1:46:25 ↗ pedestrian part we

1:46:27 ↗ use this tabletop Crossing we'd elevate

1:46:30 ↗ it and really create that consistent

1:46:33 ↗ connection piece we didn't have a nice

1:46:36 ↗ Landmark tree here with some seating and

1:46:39 ↗ Gathering space around that and we'd

1:46:41 ↗ also have a seasonal water feature over

1:46:44 ↗ on this side

1:46:46 ↗ um

1:46:46 ↗ to be able to really draw people in

1:46:48 ↗ water is an automatic magnet uh for

1:46:51 ↗ space we'd also

1:46:54 ↗ um keeping the kind of the same roof

1:46:55 ↗ line and perspective of Depot and create

1:46:58 ↗ a new space out in here that would be

1:47:00 ↗ covered in maybe an elevated platform

1:47:02 ↗ that you could do for performances and

1:47:04 ↗ people could sit and gather out in there

1:47:06 ↗ and maybe even include a outdoor fire

1:47:09 ↗ pit that can be used they're very

1:47:12 ↗ popular these days and how can we you

1:47:14 ↗ know really enhance the downtown area

1:47:16 ↗ and when people get their dinner go out

1:47:18 ↗ and provide them a space to gather and

1:47:20 ↗ use

1:47:22 ↗ um the way the space is currently

1:47:24 ↗ doesn't function too terribly well we

1:47:27 ↗ keep the existing train signal and the

1:47:30 ↗ existing little building that's out

1:47:32 ↗ there is kind of that you know

1:47:35 ↗ honor of the what has been of years past

1:47:40 ↗ um and bring some of that history into

1:47:41 ↗ the space

1:47:44 ↗ and then on to the next one this is

1:47:46 ↗ really focusing in and around the senior

1:47:49 ↗ center

1:47:50 ↗ um

1:47:51 ↗ so on there it was as I mentioned in the

1:47:55 ↗ front here there's a couple of parking

1:47:58 ↗ spaces that come real close we would get

1:48:00 ↗ rid of those and enhance the connection

1:48:03 ↗ with concrete or a Paving path

1:48:06 ↗ but we do a rolled curve so there would

1:48:09 ↗ be a really soft transition into the

1:48:11 ↗ asphalt so this could be used as more of

1:48:13 ↗ a drop-off or a loading zone than what

1:48:16 ↗ it currently is but it would have

1:48:18 ↗ bollards for pedestrian access and

1:48:21 ↗ safety

1:48:23 ↗ we'd also um relocate the

1:48:30 ↗ sign the monument sign that's out there

1:48:32 ↗ and the flagpole

1:48:34 ↗ um we create new seating covered area

1:48:37 ↗ and provide some outdoor lighting uh

1:48:41 ↗ also we've got some activity courts over

1:48:43 ↗ here maybe Bocce maybe shuffleboard

1:48:45 ↗ whatever other activities might be out

1:48:50 ↗ there

1:48:54 ↗ what's the other one with the golf balls

1:48:57 ↗ that's it

1:49:01 ↗ um

1:49:02 ↗ so we keep some of the existing trees

1:49:05 ↗ out there you know a lot of the existing

1:49:08 ↗ trees and just really starting enhancing

1:49:11 ↗ that space

1:49:13 ↗ um

1:49:14 ↗ for Gathering uh as I mentioned we'd add

1:49:17 ↗ a new Ada route into the play area and

1:49:21 ↗ we'd relocate those Ada spaces just a

1:49:23 ↗ little closer

1:49:25 ↗ um

1:49:25 ↗ that they're currently up in here we

1:49:28 ↗ just moved them right here so there's

1:49:30 ↗ easier access into the building but

1:49:31 ↗ really open up the front of the senior

1:49:33 ↗ center and make it more welcoming not

1:49:35 ↗ only for the users on the inside but

1:49:37 ↗ also those in the park that may want to

1:49:39 ↗ interact

1:49:41 ↗ um yeah improve that relationship

1:49:43 ↗ between the senior center and the park

1:49:45 ↗ and really create some

1:49:46 ↗ multi-generational connection correct

1:49:51 ↗ um so in summary sorry yeah a hand just

1:49:56 ↗ was raised oh

1:49:59 ↗ thank you

1:50:01 ↗ Danielle

1:50:02 ↗ you see intent for these um these uh

1:50:05 ↗ like the shuffleboard and watchable and

1:50:07 ↗ stuff to be used just by members of the

1:50:09 ↗ senior center or is that intended to be

1:50:11 ↗ that anyone in the all ages the thought

1:50:15 ↗ is it would feel it's a park element

1:50:16 ↗ right

1:50:21 ↗ so anybody could use them

1:50:23 ↗ yeah yeah exactly

1:50:25 ↗ great thanks

1:50:30 ↗ um so when we looked at here's kind of a

1:50:34 ↗ summary of all of the different projects

1:50:36 ↗ and where they are cost wise I do want

1:50:39 ↗ to um

1:50:41 ↗ back up and just quickly mention as we

1:50:43 ↗ looked at these uh the ad hoc committee

1:50:46 ↗ wanted to see what we could do to get to

1:50:49 ↗ 4 million on some of these smaller

1:50:51 ↗ projects we do have some ideas as to how

1:50:56 ↗ that can happen

1:50:57 ↗ um leading into other spaces but it was

1:51:00 ↗ just too much for tonight's conversation

1:51:03 ↗ to bring that in so um but just wanted

1:51:06 ↗ to let you know ad hoc we did go through

1:51:08 ↗ that exercise and have good focus should

1:51:11 ↗ we pick any of these um that maybe

1:51:14 ↗ aren't at the 4 million uh Mark already

1:51:18 ↗ so collectively this is what we're

1:51:21 ↗ looking at as our summary of Confluence

1:51:24 ↗ part of the 2.8 to 3 million dog park

1:51:28 ↗ being 600

1:51:29 ↗ 000 to 650 pedestrian Park 1.8 to 2.1

1:51:35 ↗ the Depot Park

1:51:37 ↗ um

1:51:37 ↗ being 4 million to 4.8 million in the

1:51:40 ↗ senior center 2 to 2.3 million

1:51:44 ↗ just to kind of help Envision how some

1:51:48 ↗ of these spaces might look uh our

1:51:51 ↗ consultant team went to some very famous

1:51:53 ↗ and popular outdoor spaces to kind of

1:51:57 ↗ get the brain going and get you excited

1:51:59 ↗ about what could be you know it's it's

1:52:01 ↗ one thing to look at a colored sketch

1:52:04 ↗ but to be able to Envision how this

1:52:06 ↗ might fit

1:52:07 ↗ um in Depot Park or

1:52:10 ↗ um this is Vancouver Washington I'm not

1:52:13 ↗ going to spend a lot of time on these

1:52:14 ↗ they are in your packet but we'll just

1:52:16 ↗ quickly

1:52:17 ↗ browse through them at how water can be

1:52:19 ↗ interactive it can be for all ages it

1:52:22 ↗ can come in various shapes and levels of

1:52:25 ↗ activity within the space yeah so the

1:52:27 ↗ thought is not a spray park it's really

1:52:29 ↗ water you know in these Urban

1:52:31 ↗ Park settings how does how does the

1:52:34 ↗ water feature become interactive right

1:52:37 ↗ and so it's yeah but also draw you in

1:52:39 ↗ what make you want to stay make you want

1:52:42 ↗ to engage and be a new water element

1:52:45 ↗ that we don't have with in our Park

1:52:47 ↗ system or our public spaces really

1:52:51 ↗ yeah lots of lots of really creative

1:52:52 ↗ ways to do that

1:52:54 ↗ you know at night use in lighting a lot

1:52:57 ↗ of our spaces aren't very active at

1:52:59 ↗ night we're kind of a quiet town we kind

1:53:00 ↗ of roll up at night and

1:53:02 ↗ starting to change as the population is

1:53:05 ↗ starting to change and

1:53:07 ↗ um here's some examples of how some of

1:53:09 ↗ these spaces could really be

1:53:11 ↗ incentivized and activated in the night

1:53:14 ↗ hours and some of our different

1:53:16 ↗ locations but just you know a nice some

1:53:20 ↗ stairs can be for Gathering or you know

1:53:23 ↗ sitting around a tree

1:53:24 ↗ foreign

1:53:27 ↗ and then here's some nice um open Plaza

1:53:30 ↗ boardwalks areas that you really start

1:53:32 ↗ feeling those connections that draw you

1:53:34 ↗ in like oh yeah I can walk that way it's

1:53:36 ↗ going to take me somewhere it's not a

1:53:39 ↗ little sidewalk that you're following

1:53:40 ↗ it's this big expanse that says yeah I

1:53:43 ↗ want to go visit that or what's at the

1:53:45 ↗ other end right or you know I feel safe

1:53:48 ↗ walking through this space and how can

1:53:50 ↗ we really create that Civic Gathering

1:53:52 ↗ connection and provide opportunities to

1:53:56 ↗ engage differently with other residents

1:54:00 ↗ here's a nice little water feature up at

1:54:03 ↗ Whistler Jeff uh actually just took this

1:54:06 ↗ picture

1:54:07 ↗ this top one

1:54:09 ↗ photo credit

1:54:12 ↗ um but you can see how just a water

1:54:13 ↗ feature and built into an urban space

1:54:16 ↗ really changes the feel of that

1:54:18 ↗ environment

1:54:20 ↗ um but how small fire or big fire pits

1:54:24 ↗ you know can really start

1:54:26 ↗ um make people want to sit around gather

1:54:29 ↗ you know even though we're rainy a lot

1:54:31 ↗ of the year and we're dark a lot of the

1:54:33 ↗ air fire is one way to start providing

1:54:36 ↗ outdoor activity for people because we

1:54:38 ↗ get those nice days you still want to go

1:54:40 ↗ outside even in the wintertime

1:54:45 ↗ and here are some other you know just

1:54:47 ↗ some larger expanses of Paving different

1:54:50 ↗ textures

1:54:51 ↗ um colors and how they can look but you

1:54:53 ↗ can see how Canary lighting really

1:54:55 ↗ starts creating that activity level

1:54:58 ↗ um within a space like oh I can be here

1:55:01 ↗ I can hang out I can't linger I'm using

1:55:05 ↗ those and then fire

1:55:07 ↗ um you know with water comes back right

1:55:09 ↗ could you stop by Langley on your way up

1:55:11 ↗ [Laughter]

1:55:13 ↗ [Music]

1:55:15 ↗ yeah

1:55:17 ↗ no I'm the guy who goes on vacation and

1:55:19 ↗ my wife looks at me like you're working

1:55:21 ↗ right now aren't you

1:55:22 ↗ sorry yeah so just real quick how even

1:55:26 ↗ shapes just like a little seat wall can

1:55:28 ↗ provide you know opportunities for

1:55:31 ↗ recreation or engagement within a space

1:55:35 ↗ patterning

1:55:37 ↗ um some some ideas that we as a group

1:55:39 ↗ and the design team and the ad hoc were

1:55:42 ↗ starting to kind of filter through

1:55:45 ↗ um as they help pick some of these

1:55:47 ↗ precedent images as to what these spaces

1:55:50 ↗ could be like

1:55:52 ↗ um just another outdoor Gathering space

1:55:55 ↗ but how patterning of materials can

1:55:58 ↗ really create a neat

1:56:00 ↗ um welcoming atmosphere and then when we

1:56:03 ↗ look at playgrounds you know just some

1:56:04 ↗ of the options that resonated with the

1:56:06 ↗ ad hoc that doesn't these are just ideas

1:56:08 ↗ that are cool and unique

1:56:10 ↗ um that might be something different we

1:56:12 ↗ could provide in our Park system

1:56:17 ↗ um climbing rocks was also something we

1:56:20 ↗ had heard about and maybe how do we add

1:56:23 ↗ some more climbing features

1:56:25 ↗ um specifically bouldering yes

1:56:29 ↗ so Jen maybe as you're oh look at that

1:56:32 ↗ yeah

1:56:35 ↗ [Music]

1:56:36 ↗ um

1:56:37 ↗ so city council is seeking Park Board uh

1:56:39 ↗ feedback and rationales to help best to

1:56:42 ↗ invest that four million dollars Barbara

1:56:44 ↗ funding in this quad Park project so we

1:56:46 ↗ have two questions for you

1:56:48 ↗ um does the Matrix and the three Focus

1:56:51 ↗ area Concepts represented

1:56:54 ↗ um represent the park board rationale

1:56:56 ↗ for making this art from investment and

1:56:59 ↗ then also

1:57:01 ↗ is there a preference on one or more of

1:57:03 ↗ these projects as to help us to spend

1:57:06 ↗ the money

1:57:08 ↗ and if I can just I think as those

1:57:11 ↗ questions are asked just how this

1:57:14 ↗ is going to get framed right so Council

1:57:17 ↗ just started their budget process uh so

1:57:19 ↗ you might remember from that July

1:57:20 ↗ meeting

1:57:21 ↗ Council feedback to the mayor as she

1:57:24 ↗ proposed this 4 million was the council

1:57:26 ↗ would really like to consider this

1:57:28 ↗ during the budget process so uh you know

1:57:31 ↗ sort of based on discussion tonight and

1:57:32 ↗ I don't time check I don't know if

1:57:34 ↗ everyone's comfortable maybe staying an

1:57:36 ↗ extra 20 minutes or 30 minutes

1:57:39 ↗ um I would want to check that

1:57:41 ↗ [Music]

1:57:41 ↗ um

1:57:43 ↗ taking your feedback and your thoughts

1:57:45 ↗ and and really having a chance to sit

1:57:48 ↗ down with the mayor and then think

1:57:50 ↗ through probably sometime in October how

1:57:52 ↗ how this work gets

1:57:55 ↗ melded or gets gets put into Council

1:57:58 ↗ conversation and Council consideration

1:58:00 ↗ so

1:58:02 ↗ um before we open it up I want to give

1:58:04 ↗ the ad

1:58:06 ↗ a chance to speak to anything that I may

1:58:09 ↗ have missed in your presenting all of

1:58:12 ↗ your work and your ideas

1:58:14 ↗ um yeah kudos to the law firm of Andrew

1:58:16 ↗ Andrew

1:58:19 ↗ [Music]

1:58:22 ↗ yeah it's been a lot of great times so

1:58:25 ↗ thank you

1:58:26 ↗ I thought it was a great summer again

1:58:28 ↗ thanks I one of my big takeaways from it

1:58:31 ↗ was this idea of how much do we try to

1:58:36 ↗ separate it or pair things back or pair

1:58:38 ↗ things down or separate it into

1:58:39 ↗ different elements so that we could

1:58:41 ↗ create more of a a la carte options of

1:58:45 ↗ reaching that four million dollars but I

1:58:48 ↗ think it was Marlene made to get points

1:58:49 ↗ of

1:58:50 ↗ that route versus providing something

1:58:52 ↗ that's a little bit more polished and

1:58:55 ↗ complete looking so that we don't get in

1:58:57 ↗ a situation where we end up with the

1:58:59 ↗ halfway solution and then it never feels

1:59:02 ↗ quite done or never feels quite as good

1:59:04 ↗ as it

1:59:05 ↗ um might have been

1:59:07 ↗ and also the analysis paralysis that

1:59:10 ↗ comes with

1:59:11 ↗ extending like separating it into many

1:59:13 ↗ different decisions rather than

1:59:15 ↗ presenting you know a couple of really

1:59:17 ↗ strong options

1:59:19 ↗ um and keeping it at that higher level

1:59:21 ↗ the spectacle level versus

1:59:25 ↗ um you know taking it down a few notches

1:59:28 ↗ so thinking making the investment in one

1:59:31 ↗ place as opposed to spreading it out

1:59:33 ↗ yeah I just want to get too cute about

1:59:35 ↗ sequencing I don't know maybe it's my

1:59:37 ↗ own personal life once you start a

1:59:39 ↗ project if you try to piecemeal it too

1:59:41 ↗ much you live in your own remodel

1:59:43 ↗ forever and I just don't want us to do

1:59:45 ↗ that as a part like I think part of arpa

1:59:47 ↗ funding was to be impactful

1:59:49 ↗ and complete and so I just want to make

1:59:51 ↗ sure that I think we all have you know

1:59:53 ↗ the best intentions to say well if we

1:59:55 ↗ could do a little bit here and a little

1:59:56 ↗ bit here and maybe we can do that water

1:59:57 ↗ feature later

1:59:58 ↗ I don't know then later is 20 years how

2:00:01 ↗ far later right so I guess my you know

2:00:03 ↗ that was just something that I felt

2:00:05 ↗ strongly about that even if it's you

2:00:07 ↗ know

2:00:08 ↗ I'd rather do one thing really well than

2:00:10 ↗ try to do a whole bunch of things

2:00:13 ↗ partially

2:00:15 ↗ foreign

2:00:20 ↗ 30 minutes over

2:00:23 ↗ okay

2:00:25 ↗ it seems like we're all good on that I'm

2:00:28 ↗ not sure who had their hand up first

2:00:29 ↗ grad or Danielle

2:00:35 ↗ yeah

2:00:38 ↗ it was a competition

2:00:41 ↗ but I'm happy to go ahead and um yeah go

2:00:44 ↗ ahead I have a few comments and thoughts

2:00:47 ↗ um

2:00:48 ↗ one from the perspective I was a member

2:00:51 ↗ of the Capital Finance task force and

2:00:54 ↗ one of the things that we talked about

2:00:56 ↗ in terms of usage of arpa funds is to

2:00:58 ↗ have the greatest impact and so really

2:01:01 ↗ Falls in line with Marlene's comment

2:01:03 ↗ about consolidating those funds into one

2:01:07 ↗ project rather than Distributing out as

2:01:09 ↗ a as an A La Carte kind of thing

2:01:11 ↗ and then looking at the numbers

2:01:13 ↗ distribution really it really kind of

2:01:16 ↗ focuses on Depot Park in my opinion as

2:01:19 ↗ probably the best advocate

2:01:22 ↗ for that element you know I really like

2:01:25 ↗ the idea of Confluence Park finishing

2:01:27 ↗ out that phase uh but it does kind of

2:01:30 ↗ not use up all the money and it's also

2:01:33 ↗ not something I think that is the

2:01:36 ↗ greatest area of of impact that would be

2:01:40 ↗ done in Veterans Memorial

2:01:43 ↗ um

2:01:44 ↗ I think spending six hundred thousand

2:01:46 ↗ dollars on a half an acre dog park does

2:01:49 ↗ not make a lot of sense I would rather

2:01:51 ↗ us defer that investment to something

2:01:55 ↗ that would have a greater area

2:01:58 ↗ all right plus it's an A La Carte deal

2:02:00 ↗ so veterans uh really perform the best

2:02:04 ↗ in the Matrix although it's a little

2:02:06 ↗ marginal Confluence was close

2:02:10 ↗ um but I think that

2:02:12 ↗ um again I think that the depot makes

2:02:15 ↗ the best use of four million dollars all

2:02:17 ↗ in one area could have the most impact

2:02:20 ↗ and I also think I can't remember if it

2:02:23 ↗ was David in our last meeting I think it

2:02:26 ↗ creates an an energy towards something

2:02:29 ↗ further in the future and I think the

2:02:31 ↗ Veterans Memorial is likely when we get

2:02:34 ↗ down to the basics of Master planning I

2:02:38 ↗ think veterans will come down to

2:02:40 ↗ probably the top priority of the three

2:02:43 ↗ anchor Parts as being where it will go

2:02:46 ↗ next and I think creating a four million

2:02:50 ↗ dollar

2:02:51 ↗ effort at Depot Park or a combination of

2:02:55 ↗ pedestrians and Senior Center which also

2:02:57 ↗ the the combination of those two also

2:02:59 ↗ uses up four million dollars but I think

2:03:02 ↗ that Depot probably would be my my vote

2:03:05 ↗ even though I'm not voting here this

2:03:07 ↗ evening I think that's where I would be

2:03:09 ↗ an advocate of consolidating all that

2:03:11 ↗ money making the most impact possible on

2:03:13 ↗ Depot Park

2:03:15 ↗ uh creating some lighting some water

2:03:18 ↗ some fire in the heart of of

2:03:21 ↗ um of uh of Old Town would really would

2:03:26 ↗ really be a great addition to Old Town

2:03:30 ↗ and create an incentive uh for

2:03:33 ↗ everything else with Veteran Memorial

2:03:35 ↗ Park in the years to come so I've used

2:03:39 ↗ up probably more time than I needed but

2:03:41 ↗ that's my two cents thanks much Danielle

2:03:48 ↗ um yes I

2:03:51 ↗ along the same lines as Brad

2:03:54 ↗ um but I would I personally would

2:03:57 ↗ prioritize putting um doing Investments

2:04:01 ↗ that are bringing kind of new

2:04:05 ↗ um new amenities recreational amenities

2:04:06 ↗ to our park so

2:04:09 ↗ um I really like the idea of doing the

2:04:11 ↗ the shuffleboard Bocce

2:04:14 ↗ um features by the senior center I think

2:04:16 ↗ those are

2:04:17 ↗ um opportunities that the seniors will

2:04:19 ↗ take advantage of and

2:04:21 ↗ um those are really fun activities for

2:04:23 ↗ families too

2:04:24 ↗ um and it's not we don't have anything

2:04:26 ↗ else like that in our Park system I

2:04:28 ↗ think it would be really interesting to

2:04:30 ↗ get that in and see how how it's used

2:04:33 ↗ because it might be something that we

2:04:35 ↗ would want to incorporate in other Parks

2:04:39 ↗ um

2:04:40 ↗ and by that photo it doesn't take it's

2:04:43 ↗ not going to take up a huge footprint

2:04:44 ↗ and infringe on you know whatever future

2:04:47 ↗ expense or future

2:04:50 ↗ um plans are for Veterans Memorial Field

2:04:52 ↗ I also would um I think the dog park

2:04:55 ↗ we've been talking about it for a really

2:04:57 ↗ long time it sounds like that's a

2:04:59 ↗ location in the temporary dog parks

2:05:02 ↗ that's been popular

2:05:04 ↗ um so I I personally would do the

2:05:07 ↗ um and I'm also not voting so I'm just

2:05:09 ↗ thrown in my two cents like Brad

2:05:12 ↗ um but I would be encourage us to take

2:05:15 ↗ um to do the dog park and the

2:05:18 ↗ um the senior center improvements I

2:05:20 ↗ really would like us to do at amenities

2:05:23 ↗ rather than

2:05:25 ↗ I love the idea of The Pedestrian Park

2:05:27 ↗ entry but to me

2:05:31 ↗ that's making something look nice rather

2:05:34 ↗ than

2:05:36 ↗ um adding I'm adding something that we

2:05:39 ↗ don't have in a in an active Park

2:05:42 ↗ thank you

2:05:44 ↗ thanks Danielle Chris

2:05:49 ↗ thank you uh first off I think I was the

2:05:53 ↗ first person to use the praise a la

2:05:55 ↗ carte and I apologize uh what

2:05:59 ↗ what was intended by that and where I

2:06:02 ↗ was hoping we might be able to go uh is

2:06:06 ↗ I I saw that we probably weren't going

2:06:08 ↗ to get to some Perfect magic four

2:06:11 ↗ million dollar project that everyone

2:06:12 ↗ liked uh but I could see where we might

2:06:16 ↗ you know let's say we got to a 3.3 and

2:06:19 ↗ then decided to do the dog park for six

2:06:21 ↗ or something like that that's really

2:06:23 ↗ where I was uh leaning with that use of

2:06:26 ↗ that word so we can throw it away now

2:06:28 ↗ because it it doesn't carry the same

2:06:30 ↗ meaning for everybody

2:06:32 ↗ um foreign having walked through the

2:06:35 ↗ process and you know what Jennifer

2:06:38 ↗ presented the table with the Matrix with

2:06:40 ↗ the green

2:06:41 ↗ the red the yellow and the one orange uh

2:06:44 ↗ we walked through the you know the fully

2:06:46 ↗ expanded version of that and the one

2:06:49 ↗ thing that kept resonating with me was

2:06:51 ↗ the economic impact that's really

2:06:54 ↗ intended with this money and and also

2:06:58 ↗ the community impact and for that reason

2:07:01 ↗ I really leaned towards pedestrian Park

2:07:04 ↗ and

2:07:05 ↗ um what I this is where the that word

2:07:08 ↗ that I'm not going to use anymore that

2:07:10 ↗ phrase comes in is my thought was well

2:07:13 ↗ if

2:07:14 ↗ pedestrian Park was like a I forget what

2:07:16 ↗ number it is but at two point something

2:07:19 ↗ how far could we get into Depot

2:07:22 ↗ and and and get to 4 million and do it

2:07:27 ↗ properly like Marlene said not not a you

2:07:30 ↗ know halfway job that that leaves us

2:07:32 ↗ working living in our remodel but how

2:07:34 ↗ far could we get into there or could we

2:07:36 ↗ get in a portion of that across that uh

2:07:39 ↗ raised uh

2:07:44 ↗ pedestrian Crossing and then this is

2:07:47 ↗ where that other word is but maybe we

2:07:49 ↗ now consider putting in on the other

2:07:52 ↗ side of the senior center those

2:07:53 ↗ amenities that Danielle mentioned you

2:07:56 ↗ know an affinity for

2:07:58 ↗ and I the the one the main reason is you

2:08:01 ↗ know I love all these parks and I'd love

2:08:03 ↗ to see them all happen but we don't we

2:08:05 ↗ can't do them all and the the economic

2:08:08 ↗ and the community impact is the one

2:08:10 ↗ you're going to see from that you know

2:08:12 ↗ the most traveled intersection in our

2:08:13 ↗ city I think is you know right there at

2:08:16 ↗ the pedestrian Park and to make that

2:08:18 ↗ into something that really attracts a

2:08:21 ↗ lot of people and you know people to

2:08:23 ↗ comment you know huddle around the fire

2:08:25 ↗ in the winter or hang out and have their

2:08:28 ↗ ice cream or their yogurt in the summer

2:08:30 ↗ uh I think that's going to be the huge

2:08:32 ↗ impact in both economically and um from

2:08:36 ↗ a community perspective and then to get

2:08:38 ↗ back to the phrase that someone else

2:08:40 ↗ used uh have it be you know a catalyst

2:08:42 ↗ or you know an Energizer

2:08:46 ↗ um an accelerator for the rest of

2:08:48 ↗ Memorial Park and the different smaller

2:08:51 ↗ parts so those are my thoughts

2:08:54 ↗ thanks Chris

2:08:56 ↗ um Tim

2:09:00 ↗ thank you I just

2:09:02 ↗ if if I'm correct uh the original

2:09:06 ↗ request from Council was to make a big

2:09:09 ↗ impact in one place rather than

2:09:11 ↗ distribute over multiple places

2:09:14 ↗ and if that if I'm remembering that

2:09:17 ↗ correctly that I think that you know the

2:09:19 ↗ sentiment about basically pouring all

2:09:21 ↗ the water into one pot is the right way

2:09:23 ↗ to go because that that's what we were

2:09:25 ↗ told that was the division and the goal

2:09:27 ↗ of what to do with this money and so I

2:09:30 ↗ would be in favor of doing that and I am

2:09:34 ↗ not in favor of funding the dog park so

2:09:36 ↗ uh having said that several options line

2:09:40 ↗ up with that that I think would be

2:09:42 ↗ wonderful and I'm actually okay with any

2:09:44 ↗ of those because I think they'd all be

2:09:45 ↗ great

2:09:47 ↗ thanks man

2:09:51 ↗ anyone else any

2:09:54 ↗ accounts yeah I mean I just I will

2:09:57 ↗ second Chris and Tim in the senses for

2:10:00 ↗ me um you know it's a bit of an equity

2:10:02 ↗ play and it's also a bit of a strategic

2:10:04 ↗ Advantage for the city from an economic

2:10:06 ↗ perspective when you want to live

2:10:08 ↗ somewhere and you want to age in place

2:10:09 ↗ having a really robust Senior Center is

2:10:12 ↗ important both for yourself as you think

2:10:14 ↗ about yourself in the future but as you

2:10:16 ↗ want to slight your parents nearby

2:10:18 ↗ potentially

2:10:19 ↗ and I think our senior center is tired

2:10:22 ↗ I ran into our mayor on a walk down the

2:10:25 ↗ senior former mayor on a walk down there

2:10:27 ↗ and uh he the one thing he mentioned to

2:10:29 ↗ me was you know it'd really be nice to

2:10:31 ↗ be able to get outside and play some uh

2:10:33 ↗ actually you mentioned racquetball which

2:10:34 ↗ is apparently like a sport board in

2:10:36 ↗ Washington

2:10:38 ↗ yeah he mentioned that and I know that

2:10:40 ↗ you know our neighbors on the North

2:10:42 ↗ under the lake Redmond they're they have

2:10:44 ↗ a significant investment starting right

2:10:46 ↗ now

2:10:47 ↗ uh in their senior center for the same

2:10:48 ↗ reason as they want to attract families

2:10:50 ↗ that want to live you know

2:10:52 ↗ multi-generational in this area

2:10:54 ↗ so that that's my feeling and I think

2:10:56 ↗ that stretches through three parks that

2:10:57 ↗ we just saw our three phases apart and

2:11:00 ↗ Council doesn't have to stop it for a

2:11:01 ↗ million we just got to put the chip down

2:11:03 ↗ on the table excuse me c-h-i-t

2:11:08 ↗ and let let them follow with other money

2:11:11 ↗ so um you know and I love dogs as much

2:11:13 ↗ as I love you know people but at some

2:11:16 ↗ point that is just another fight for

2:11:18 ↗ another day another question for another

2:11:20 ↗ day thank you

2:11:24 ↗ okay so just a question for me I know

2:11:27 ↗ we've talked a lot about like water

2:11:28 ↗ features and things and I think someone

2:11:30 ↗ that brought up in a previous meeting

2:11:31 ↗ about maintenance costs and ongoing

2:11:33 ↗ total cost of ownership is that would

2:11:36 ↗ putting in all these water features

2:11:37 ↗ would kind of significantly go up you're

2:11:39 ↗ talking about pumps and lighting and

2:11:40 ↗ have have we done analysis around that

2:11:43 ↗ or yeah yeah so when we did all the

2:11:45 ↗ rough order of magnitude costs you know

2:11:48 ↗ we worked with the professional team and

2:11:50 ↗ we're like okay when we came up with

2:11:52 ↗ those numbers for each of those features

2:11:53 ↗ we were thinking of those things and

2:11:55 ↗ drainage and where's the nearest

2:11:57 ↗ electrical uh is there gas over here

2:12:00 ↗ things like that so we when we put those

2:12:04 ↗ numbers together to come up with those

2:12:05 ↗ round numbers we had some of that

2:12:08 ↗ General consideration so it's a great

2:12:10 ↗ question David yeah and there's some

2:12:11 ↗ really thoughtful ways to design water

2:12:14 ↗ features that are not they don't need

2:12:16 ↗ the massive pumps and the right

2:12:20 ↗ relatively simple don't need the

2:12:22 ↗ sanitation because it's not a spray park

2:12:24 ↗ right so we want to really think through

2:12:26 ↗ both design and how it looks and how

2:12:28 ↗ people will interact with it but you're

2:12:30 ↗ right what is what's the maintenance

2:12:32 ↗ responsibility look like should we move

2:12:34 ↗ forward with it

2:12:36 ↗ and some of those water features too can

2:12:39 ↗ shift and be depending upon what it is

2:12:42 ↗ can shift and be a unique winter element

2:12:46 ↗ as well too it's not running in the

2:12:48 ↗ winter so yeah either it's not running

2:12:50 ↗ or you can cover them and have them lit

2:12:54 ↗ or you know there's other things you

2:12:56 ↗ could do with some of those

2:13:01 ↗ uh I actually fully agree with what

2:13:03 ↗ you're saying I like it the downtown

2:13:05 ↗ it's keeping it there and keeping the

2:13:06 ↗ money there and you're right the dog

2:13:08 ↗ park is a good idea for another time uh

2:13:11 ↗ and then you just brought had a flash in

2:13:13 ↗ my head as you mentioned the water

2:13:14 ↗ feature

2:13:16 ↗ you're gonna have to control all of the

2:13:18 ↗ suds and the bubbles that will go in

2:13:19 ↗ every night so there's going to be like

2:13:21 ↗ that

2:13:22 ↗ yeah but hopefully when you get enough

2:13:25 ↗ people around us

2:13:29 ↗ public spaces well I but

2:13:33 ↗ great discussion

2:13:35 ↗ um looking at the time I I guess I just

2:13:38 ↗ wanna

2:13:39 ↗ bring us back to

2:13:41 ↗ that initial ask by Council in July

2:13:44 ↗ right and so you know I'm I'm certainly

2:13:47 ↗ hearing it's so appreciate the the

2:13:49 ↗ discussion you know the the

2:13:51 ↗ rationale and the work to

2:13:55 ↗ say all right how how and where could

2:13:58 ↗ this specific form remember this that's

2:14:00 ↗ not any four million it's four million

2:14:02 ↗ that has a shot clock on it that has

2:14:05 ↗ some federal requirements attached to it

2:14:06 ↗ where could we invest that I think these

2:14:09 ↗ three Focus areas that we discussed last

2:14:13 ↗ month that the ad hoc team and us as

2:14:15 ↗ staff really started to work on are all

2:14:17 ↗ pretty compelling

2:14:19 ↗ um I'm hearing some consensus around

2:14:21 ↗ veterans

2:14:24 ↗ um and and some combination thereof

2:14:27 ↗ within this veterans Consolidated Park

2:14:30 ↗ um you know again I think to present

2:14:33 ↗ back to council

2:14:35 ↗ won the ration the The Matrix that took

2:14:38 ↗ this from just anywhere to

2:14:41 ↗ here's how we really took this and these

2:14:45 ↗ primary Community parks of the creek

2:14:47 ↗ Corridor of veterans of Tibbetts and

2:14:50 ↗ Confluence that the council wanted us to

2:14:52 ↗ add there's some ideas we came up with

2:14:54 ↗ and we as a group

2:14:57 ↗ like all three but we feel like

2:15:00 ↗ you know a preference of sorts is is

2:15:03 ↗ Veterans is what I'm is what I'm hearing

2:15:06 ↗ um

2:15:07 ↗ um again I think there's going to be

2:15:09 ↗ more discussion I think the mayor is

2:15:11 ↗ going to really want some Community

2:15:12 ↗ discussion around this

2:15:14 ↗ um so

2:15:16 ↗ I I guess I I could put something

2:15:19 ↗ together as a motion that sort of speaks

2:15:21 ↗ to them but before I do that does that

2:15:24 ↗ encapsulate what I what I heard

2:15:28 ↗ Veterans Memorial seems to be the

2:15:30 ↗ consensus of the the three

2:15:38 ↗ I liked you that we aren't getting you

2:15:41 ↗ know as a team like all the way down to

2:15:44 ↗ pedestrian because I think also for the

2:15:46 ↗ council letting them also engage the

2:15:49 ↗ community or do some other like to

2:15:50 ↗ really sort of see from a heat map

2:15:52 ↗ perspective that once we get more

2:15:54 ↗ feedback to sort of hone into that area

2:15:56 ↗ but not be so prescriptive I think is

2:15:59 ↗ probably it to our benefit yeah and even

2:16:01 ↗ including dog park and Confluence as

2:16:04 ↗ like these are things that we considered

2:16:07 ↗ and could be potential in showing some

2:16:10 ↗ of that that thinking I think helps

2:16:12 ↗ round it out too right all three and

2:16:15 ↗ then showing sort of speaking to this

2:16:17 ↗ preference of Old Town veterans

2:16:20 ↗ I would agree Marley I guess I would I

2:16:23 ↗ would sit from a park planning

2:16:25 ↗ perspective in big picture and knowing

2:16:27 ↗ there's this conversation we started

2:16:29 ↗ before the pandemic about Veterans

2:16:32 ↗ Memorial and unifying to Front Street

2:16:34 ↗ and you know I I think though all three

2:16:37 ↗ of those areas had Depot Senior Center

2:16:41 ↗ and really the value all three and the

2:16:44 ↗ the compelling unification not now

2:16:47 ↗ suddenly there's a literally a public

2:16:49 ↗ Bridge a stroll

2:16:51 ↗ to the to the Memorial Field that's

2:16:54 ↗ always sort of felt like it's

2:16:56 ↗ you know back in the corner and so um

2:16:59 ↗ yeah really compelling I think to to

2:17:02 ↗ sort of present it all

2:17:07 ↗ see where it goes okay

2:17:11 ↗ so I I think we want to uh come to a

2:17:14 ↗ consensus as a Power Sport with regards

2:17:16 ↗ to uh

2:17:18 ↗ um presenting Veterans Memorial Park and

2:17:21 ↗ the other uh op three options

2:17:24 ↗ um that we sort of funneled it down to

2:17:28 ↗ and um

2:17:29 ↗ so would anybody like to propose a

2:17:33 ↗ a

2:17:34 ↗ motion

2:17:37 ↗ I jotted down some rules

2:17:41 ↗ language this is not I mean please I'm

2:17:44 ↗ presenting this to I'm not even I'm not

2:17:47 ↗ making the motion since I'm not a board

2:17:48 ↗ member but here's some language that you

2:17:51 ↗ can maybe start to play with we as the

2:17:53 ↗ park board

2:17:54 ↗ approve

2:17:56 ↗ we use the park board support the

2:17:58 ↗ rationale evaluation and determination

2:18:02 ↗ of these three Focus areas identified

2:18:05 ↗ for the four million dollar Community

2:18:07 ↗ investment strategy Park project

2:18:10 ↗ with our preferred area being

2:18:16 ↗ Veterans Memorial Consolidated Park

2:18:19 ↗ maybe leave it at that

2:18:23 ↗ so moving and if that

2:18:26 ↗ is you want to make the motion and then

2:18:29 ↗ I suppose we can I could play with

2:18:31 ↗ Fisher on

2:18:32 ↗ does that

2:18:35 ↗ yes

2:18:37 ↗ [Music]

2:18:38 ↗ clarified question when when you say the

2:18:41 ↗ three Focus areas is that the depot the

2:18:45 ↗ three Focus areas being the Confluence

2:18:47 ↗ Park Dog parking so it's sort of

2:18:51 ↗ starting with the Matrix that led to

2:18:53 ↗ these three

2:18:54 ↗ and maybe Focus areas isn't the right

2:18:57 ↗ three Park ideas three Park areas

2:19:00 ↗ [Music]

2:19:01 ↗ but then of those three the preferred is

2:19:05 ↗ Veterans Memorial

2:19:11 ↗ Daniel wants to make a motion yeah there

2:19:13 ↗ we go

2:19:15 ↗ up or do you have another question oh no

2:19:19 ↗ sorry

2:19:21 ↗ but just as a point of clarification I

2:19:24 ↗ mean Veterans Memorial Park is is more

2:19:27 ↗ of a I feel I mean like I think you

2:19:31 ↗ might want to

2:19:33 ↗ um

2:19:34 ↗ yeah yeah okay

2:19:38 ↗ right so again I I'm suggesting and I

2:19:42 ↗ think we called it this a couple of

2:19:44 ↗ times showed this process Veterans

2:19:46 ↗ Memorial Consolidated Park meaning

2:19:50 ↗ I mean we could do the list

2:19:52 ↗ Park Senior Center

2:19:55 ↗ um we could do that as well can we

2:19:57 ↗ Rebrand like like to separate from

2:19:59 ↗ Veterans Field because I know there's

2:20:00 ↗ issues there like are those the like Old

2:20:03 ↗ Town community spaces or like because

2:20:15 ↗ somebody read

2:20:17 ↗ the minutes and think that perhaps yeah

2:20:19 ↗ this is this doesn't include the field

2:20:21 ↗ that's a great that's a great point and

2:20:24 ↗ we can always you know Rebrand the space

2:20:26 ↗ at a future date to needed yeah

2:20:30 ↗ or rename that space

2:20:34 ↗ Old Town Road

2:20:40 ↗ all right

2:20:45 ↗ I don't know how to make emotion.com

2:20:49 ↗ yeah is there a second yeah

2:20:51 ↗ [Music]

2:20:53 ↗ so I just replaced Veterans Memorial

2:20:55 ↗ Field and to list the three distinct

2:20:58 ↗ pieces so someone can just say they'd

2:21:01 ↗ like to move that you move and also yeah

2:21:03 ↗ so so move I'll move that okay okay any

2:21:05 ↗ further discussion with regards to uh

2:21:08 ↗ the proposed motion

2:21:11 ↗ okay uh well in that case we will uh

2:21:15 ↗ proceed similar to uh the last one where

2:21:19 ↗ I call your name and just say whether

2:21:21 ↗ you approve the motion you're not uh

2:21:23 ↗ Chris

2:21:25 ↗ I support and approve it okay Marlene

2:21:28 ↗ support and I support uh Andrew yes in

2:21:32 ↗ favor okay David support Nicholas

2:21:35 ↗ support Brenda support Katie

2:21:39 ↗ support

2:21:45 ↗ all right

2:21:47 ↗ it's uh and Brad and Danielle thank you

2:21:49 ↗ for your uh your feedback as well

2:21:55 ↗ all right all right so here's unanimous

2:21:57 ↗ uh board

2:22:01 ↗ that's great again and and Jennifer

2:22:04 ↗ great work the methoon team great work

2:22:07 ↗ um Andrew Andrew Marlene Chris thank you

2:22:10 ↗ so much for your time and energy

2:22:12 ↗ um I will get it this is very helpful

2:22:14 ↗ I'll have a chance to talk to

2:22:15 ↗ Administration and get a sense of our

2:22:17 ↗ how to how do we carry this into the

2:22:20 ↗ budget process uh with Council so once I

2:22:22 ↗ I learned that I'd love to I'll reach

2:22:25 ↗ out to you Zach or to the ad hoc

2:22:27 ↗ committee to maybe help us sit down with

2:22:29 ↗ the mayor and sort of talk through the

2:22:32 ↗ process and how we want to present that

2:22:34 ↗ to council so more to come there thank

2:22:37 ↗ you

2:22:38 ↗ thanks all right uh so

2:22:42 ↗ um moving on to uh the chair and

2:22:45 ↗ director's reports uh so my report is

2:22:48 ↗ very salmon Centric

2:22:50 ↗ um

2:22:53 ↗ is the uh salmon days the first and

2:22:56 ↗ second uh there will also be a release

2:22:58 ↗ the company event

2:23:00 ↗ um that will be occurring I believe it's

2:23:03 ↗ at least

2:23:05 ↗ um then there's also a run with the

2:23:07 ↗ Kokanee event uh there's a five game 10k

2:23:09 ↗ race benefiting the company's salmon

2:23:12 ↗ recovery work uh that was on October

2:23:14 ↗ 15th

2:23:16 ↗ um and then also there is a some ego

2:23:18 ↗ action classes being hosted here in

2:23:21 ↗ Issaquah at the Depot Museum actually

2:23:25 ↗ um those start on October 19th and I

2:23:27 ↗ believe the first one is reducing your

2:23:29 ↗ waste and uh less toxicity in the

2:23:33 ↗ environment and I believe that's like uh

2:23:35 ↗ three separate classes that extend

2:23:36 ↗ through the fall also if you're

2:23:39 ↗ interested in that that is on the uh the

2:23:43 ↗ Isabella newsletter

2:23:47 ↗ that's all for me

2:23:48 ↗ that's cool director's report uh was

2:23:51 ↗ going to be long it's not long anymore

2:23:53 ↗ budget as I've said you've heard me say

2:23:55 ↗ it a couple times the 2023 2024 budget

2:23:57 ↗ has been presented to council we had the

2:23:59 ↗ first workshop with Council last night

2:24:01 ↗ there'll be multiples throughout October

2:24:05 ↗ um

2:24:05 ↗ if I sent you the link to the budget if

2:24:09 ↗ you want to take a look at parks and

2:24:11 ↗ Community Services our operations asks

2:24:13 ↗ or our Capital asks if you have any

2:24:15 ↗ questions please

2:24:16 ↗ throw them my way

2:24:19 ↗ um happy day happy to answer them but um

2:24:21 ↗ certainly appreciate a lot of support

2:24:23 ↗ from mayor Administration in terms of

2:24:26 ↗ what we're doing throughout the

2:24:28 ↗ throughout the department and look

2:24:30 ↗ forward to that discussion with Council

2:24:33 ↗ all right

2:24:34 ↗ [Music]

2:24:35 ↗ yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I have some

2:24:38 ↗ swag before you leave I said Trails map

2:24:41 ↗ 2.0 is out on the streets I've got some

2:24:44 ↗ copies for you fun little QR code on the

2:24:47 ↗ back so easily downloadable to your

2:24:49 ↗ phone for those that are super tech

2:24:52 ↗ savvy you can actually sync this to a

2:24:54 ↗ geolocation and use the trails map as

2:24:57 ↗ your Trump and through Trump and through

2:24:59 ↗ the Alps so

2:25:01 ↗ exciting I'll get those right now

2:25:04 ↗ thank you okay so uh meeting adjourned

2:25:09 ↗ good job thanks great thanks thanks

2:25:12 ↗ everybody thanks thank you

2:25:14 ↗ thank you thank you

2:25:17 ↗ thank you

2:25:20 ↗ thanks if you're interested they're

2:25:23 ↗ going down and pass it around yeah

2:25:31 ↗ this is our youth Advisory Board member

2:25:33 ↗ yeah

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Council / Members (12)

Zach Szablewski

Chris Kovac

Marlene Waxse

David Liu

Nicholas Lee

Brenda Spears

Katie Bell

Tim Motely

Andrew Myers, Alternate Serving as

Regular Member

Danielle Wolfrom Githens, Alternate (Virtual Attendee)

Bradley Book

Staff (2)

Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

Jennifer Fink, Parks Planning and Project Administrator

Excused

Andrew Eliquen

Recommendations & actions (4)

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Following the presentation and discussion, Marlene Waxse moved to: Support the conceptual design for Hillside Park and moving it forward into design and permitting.
By a vote of 8-1 (Opposed: Motely), the motion was adopted.
By a vote of 9-0, the motion was adopted.