Park Board · Thursday, September 29, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of August 22, 2022 meeting

packet pp.3–9

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 08-22-22 Park Board Minutes Page 01 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Virtual Meeting August 22, 2022 MINUTES

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Storm & Surface Water Master Plan Update, (I, D)

20 min · Gary Schimek, Utilities Strategic Advisor Allen Quynn, Senior Stormwater Engineer · packet pp.11–37

Topics: Water

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Staff report:

Storm and Surface Water Master Plan – Final Plan Adoption SEPTEMBER 29, 2022 | PARK BOARD MEETING

Hillside Park - Conceptual Design Recommendation (D, A)

20 min · Jennifer Fink, Parks Planning and Projects Administrator · packet pp.39–46

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

Hillside Park – Proposed Concept 9/29/22 | PARK BOARD

Community Investment Strategy Update (D, A)

Director · 40 min · Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services · packet pp.47–81

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Jul 5, 2022

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REGULAR BUSINESS c) JEFF WATL IN G , PARKS & COMMUNITY SERVICES DIREC TOR JEN N IFER FINK, PARK PLANNER & PROJEC T ADMIN ISTRATOR

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0:00 ↗ all right so uh we'll start the uh

0:03 ↗ meeting today for September 29 2022 uh

0:08 ↗ first uh in-person meeting back so

0:10 ↗ welcome everybody

0:13 ↗ um so we'll start off with the uh roll

0:15 ↗ call uh so I guess

0:19 ↗ um take yourself off mute or I guess

0:22 ↗ also pick yourself up even in person as

0:24 ↗ well and acknowledge your presence uh so

0:28 ↗ uh Chris

0:33 ↗ okay uh Marlene here

0:35 ↗ all right uh Andrew

0:38 ↗ oh Andrew all right

0:47 ↗ David here Nicholas present all right

0:52 ↗ Brenda Katie

0:55 ↗ here

1:01 ↗ good uh Danielle

1:05 ↗ foreign

1:09 ↗ I'm here

1:10 ↗ and Andrew and hey

1:13 ↗ all right

1:16 ↗ um so um next just want to go through

1:19 ↗ the approval of minutes from August 22nd

1:22 ↗ 2022 uh any questions comments

1:25 ↗ Corrections

1:28 ↗ does anyone have any objections uh to

1:31 ↗ approving the minutes

1:35 ↗ all right uh here if I approve the

1:37 ↗ minutes thank thank you very much so

1:40 ↗ today we'll be going through uh three

1:43 ↗ agenda items the storm and surface water

1:46 ↗ master plan which is informational

1:48 ↗ discussion item the hillside Park uh

1:52 ↗ conceptual design recommendations uh

1:54 ↗ discussion and potential action and

1:57 ↗ Community investment strategy update

1:59 ↗ which is uh discussion and also

2:01 ↗ potential action

2:02 ↗ so

2:04 ↗ with that

2:06 ↗ we will turn it over to uh Gary with the

2:09 ↗ storm and surface water master plan in

2:12 ↗ the audience comments public comments

2:15 ↗ sorry something good okay

2:21 ↗ there is no one virtually there's no one

2:24 ↗ on anyone here

2:28 ↗ what comment no okay okay

2:33 ↗ no problem thank you

2:37 ↗ all right is there are no public

2:38 ↗ comments so uh it should be all all set

2:42 ↗ to move forward with the storm and

2:43 ↗ surface water master plan

2:45 ↗ all right thank you everybody just uh

2:47 ↗ test on the sound are we okay

2:50 ↗ yep great thank you uh Gary shimek um

2:54 ↗ the uh I'm a utility strategic advisor

2:57 ↗ part-time with

2:59 ↗ um

3:00 ↗ City of Issaquah Public Works some of

3:02 ↗ you may have known me as a former

3:04 ↗ utilities uh engineering and

3:07 ↗ environmental programs division director

3:10 ↗ uh but I've moved on to a part-time role

3:12 ↗ and I'm here with Alan Quinn our senior

3:15 ↗ stormwater engineer and two of our

3:18 ↗ excellent Consultants from otech to talk

3:21 ↗ about our master plan and I'm uh wanted

3:24 ↗ to apologize that my uh camera is not

3:26 ↗ working today I've been working with our

3:28 ↗ I.T folks since two o'clock and we can't

3:30 ↗ make it work so um go figure uh next

3:34 ↗ slide please Alan

3:40 ↗ okay our purpose uh is working with you

3:43 ↗ to take this uh quite long project

3:47 ↗ that's been a great thing in the making

3:49 ↗ towards the finish line so what we want

3:51 ↗ to do today is Prov provide a fun a

3:54 ↗ summary of not only our final CIP list

3:56 ↗ but more importantly uh how we got there

3:59 ↗ you will have you'll recognize much of

4:01 ↗ this from a previous uh conversations uh

4:05 ↗ but this is going to encapsulate all

4:06 ↗ we've done to get to this point in the

4:08 ↗ next step's word

4:10 ↗ next slide please Alan

4:12 ↗ and again we're really looking forward

4:14 ↗ mostly to your thoughts on our

4:17 ↗ methodology that's what I'm going to

4:18 ↗ focus on we don't have a lot of time

4:19 ↗ here I'm going to go over a couple of

4:21 ↗ the projects but we can definitely seek

4:23 ↗ more of your input on those specific

4:25 ↗ projects later but again I really want

4:27 ↗ to make sure everybody

4:29 ↗ with the methodology we use to get to

4:31 ↗ this point

4:33 ↗ next slide please

4:42 ↗ so we've been at this uh quite a long

4:45 ↗ time it's at uh some of the things have

4:47 ↗ been out of our control uh that little

4:49 ↗ pandemic thing but we did start this in

4:52 ↗ December uh 2019. uh with a great

4:55 ↗ kickoff meeting and a virtual Outreach

4:59 ↗ where we've had a lot of input what

5:00 ↗ we'll talk about and then we did you

5:02 ↗ know the series of uh part uh

5:04 ↗ environmental board Park Board and uh

5:06 ↗ Council study sessions

5:08 ↗ um along the way and um our most recent

5:12 ↗ um conversations have been uh with the

5:15 ↗ environmental board and then we also did

5:17 ↗ have a a committee meeting with Council

5:21 ↗ um uh last month

5:22 ↗ and we are here now to talk with you

5:25 ↗ um and then the next step will be going

5:26 ↗ to council for adoption

5:28 ↗ so our agenda again we'll talk a little

5:31 ↗ bit about our final plan the current

5:33 ↗ schedule uh the prioritization recap

5:36 ↗ which is going to be again a great part

5:38 ↗ of this discussion uh the stormwater

5:41 ↗ management options screening and the

5:43 ↗ metrics for prioritization those last

5:44 ↗ three are the key pieces and then we'll

5:46 ↗ just touch on the final CIP list and ask

5:49 ↗ if we have any questions

5:53 ↗ So the plan

5:55 ↗ um there is quite a bit in this plan

5:58 ↗ that we've talked to you about for the

5:59 ↗ last couple years

6:01 ↗ um there's going to be a section on

6:02 ↗ existing conditions for both water

6:04 ↗ quality or for not both but for water

6:06 ↗ quality habitat and flow control uh we

6:10 ↗ have our list and metrics for our storm

6:12 ↗ water management options

6:14 ↗ uh section on all the stakeholder

6:16 ↗ engagement we've done which we talked

6:18 ↗ about

6:18 ↗ we'll have our final candidate project

6:21 ↗ list which is Smo list we'll talk we'll

6:25 ↗ have the schedule for implementation for

6:26 ↗ those those 10 projects as well as the

6:29 ↗ budget needs

6:30 ↗ um and then what we're still working on

6:32 ↗ is an Adaptive and management approach

6:34 ↗ if if things don't quite go as planned

6:36 ↗ with the projects what are we going to

6:37 ↗ do then and then finally we'll have a

6:40 ↗ section on the Basin prioritization and

6:42 ↗ s-map and one thing to add that we just

6:44 ↗ talked about today we're going to have a

6:46 ↗ section on all the operational elements

6:49 ↗ that we're going to be probably talking

6:50 ↗ to you about in 2823 related to storm

6:54 ↗ water this is really a capital program

6:56 ↗ heavy Focus plan but we'll be coming

6:59 ↗ back and talking about things like

7:01 ↗ street sweeping

7:03 ↗ um and other things we can do to enhance

7:04 ↗ our existing system that's already built

7:07 ↗ next slide please

7:10 ↗ all right so we're in we're actually in

7:13 ↗ uh last part of this so you see the blue

7:15 ↗ diamond for the park sport here and as I

7:18 ↗ mentioned we just talked with the

7:19 ↗ Planning Development and environmental

7:20 ↗ committee earlier this month and then

7:22 ↗ the environmental board in July and then

7:25 ↗ the plan is to uh go to council adoption

7:28 ↗ in November December

7:30 ↗ we're currently as you see in those

7:31 ↗ boxes during in the super review process

7:33 ↗ the ecology review process and also the

7:36 ↗ internal City Review process and really

7:39 ↗ that blue box is really for the internal

7:41 ↗ City staff review is is listening to to

7:44 ↗ your concerns your comments as well as

7:46 ↗ the committee's comments and the

7:48 ↗ environmental board and making sure we

7:50 ↗ address those before uh the final uh

7:53 ↗ product is completed

7:54 ↗ next slide please

7:58 ↗ okay this is the biggest slide the most

8:00 ↗ important one of the bunch this really

8:02 ↗ lays out our process and I I'm very

8:04 ↗ pleased to present this is this has been

8:06 ↗ a lot of work a lot of you have been

8:07 ↗ involved in with this and Jennifer has

8:10 ↗ been representative Parks all along the

8:12 ↗ way

8:13 ↗ so we'll just kind of walk through this

8:15 ↗ a bit by bit and again this again this

8:17 ↗ is what I you know really looking for

8:18 ↗ your feedback so we started with

8:21 ↗ 303 uh known options or known issues

8:24 ↗ again issues from Community from our

8:28 ↗ Administration from staff from other

8:30 ↗ agencies uh and these were again bunched

8:33 ↗ into three things uh flooding issues

8:36 ↗ water quality issues and uh habitat

8:40 ↗ restoration issues

8:42 ↗ um again input at

8:43 ↗ um a real uh an in-person meeting

8:46 ↗ virtual meetings uh again this is

8:48 ↗ Citywide

8:50 ↗ so what we did then to go to the 303 to

8:53 ↗ the 41

8:54 ↗ and I know a 41's odd number but that's

8:56 ↗ just how it came out with our rankings

8:58 ↗ there were I think three projects tied

9:01 ↗ so 39 40 and 41 were all together so

9:03 ↗ that's the odd number uh but we had

9:06 ↗ folks from across the city again

9:08 ↗ including Jennifer but from uh at least

9:10 ↗ eight different departments across the

9:12 ↗ city we had uh external fakeovers

9:15 ↗ holders involved as well and we ranked

9:18 ↗ each one of these projects so each 303

9:21 ↗ our issue I should say each issue uh to

9:25 ↗ determine uh according to you know wide

9:28 ↗ swath of people which ones were the most

9:29 ↗ important and again we came up with uh a

9:33 ↗ list of you know our 41 highest issues

9:35 ↗ from across the city again so those are

9:37 ↗ issues needing to be solved

9:40 ↗ The Next Step was and this is where our

9:43 ↗ friends at otak came in to help us with

9:46 ↗ uh with City staff as well

9:47 ↗ looking at how could we best address

9:51 ↗ these 41 priority issues

9:54 ↗ um and thankfully the number is lower

9:55 ↗ it's 23. so what does that mean it means

9:58 ↗ that a number of issues uh

10:01 ↗ a number of issues can be solved with

10:03 ↗ each of these 23 projects so

10:06 ↗ um you'll as you'll notice when I talk

10:09 ↗ through some of the projects they're uh

10:11 ↗ multi-faceted projects so some of them

10:13 ↗ solve flooding or are hoping to solve uh

10:17 ↗ flooding water quality and habitat

10:20 ↗ issues some just solve one

10:22 ↗ um but I think that is a good thing that

10:24 ↗ we we brought that number down to 23

10:26 ↗ projects

10:28 ↗ what we did then

10:30 ↗ um and we'll get to a slide on this but

10:32 ↗ we did share this with you before we had

10:34 ↗ a robust list of another ranking

10:37 ↗ criteria for each of these projects that

10:40 ↗ was uh you know approved by uh boards

10:43 ↗ and by the council and most importantly

10:45 ↗ by ecology

10:46 ↗ so we ranked each one of those projects

10:48 ↗ and

10:50 ↗ um with numerical scores and what we

10:52 ↗ came up with with a list of of 10 that

10:55 ↗ were the highest priority that we like

10:57 ↗ to you know solve

10:59 ↗ um over the next you know 10 to 20 years

11:01 ↗ and those years may seem a little high

11:04 ↗ some of those projects may be solved

11:06 ↗ rather easily but some of them are very

11:08 ↗ large projects that that may take a very

11:11 ↗ long time to develop and implement

11:13 ↗ next slide please

11:18 ↗ again we've seen this before but just

11:21 ↗ quickly some of the the metrics that we

11:22 ↗ used to score those projects the very

11:25 ↗ first one uh actually came out of one of

11:28 ↗ the uh it might I have to look back at

11:30 ↗ my notes it was either the Parks Board

11:32 ↗ or the environmental board but uh

11:35 ↗ effectiveness of solving problems

11:37 ↗ including impacts benefits to Lake

11:39 ↗ Washington or I'm sorry lake Lake

11:40 ↗ Sammamish uh and then we've kind of

11:43 ↗ talked about some of the other other

11:45 ↗ metrics here from construction ability

11:46 ↗ to timing uh to environmental and social

11:49 ↗ justice so every every project was

11:52 ↗ scored with ease in mind next slide

11:54 ↗ please

11:55 ↗ foreign

11:59 ↗ CIP projects and the next step is going

12:03 ↗ to be to finalize the concept design and

12:06 ↗ cost for them but there was a little uh

12:08 ↗ one little step

12:09 ↗ um in between that so next slide please

12:12 ↗ go ahead

12:16 ↗ this just shows our basins we can come

12:18 ↗ back to that and I'll pass pass over

12:20 ↗ this through given the time today uh

12:23 ↗ let's go to the next slide

12:27 ↗ so an adjustment so what we we noticed

12:31 ↗ when we looked at the 10 projects that

12:33 ↗ scored the highest right with just true

12:36 ↗ scores raw scores uh we we noticed that

12:39 ↗ a few of our goals from the beginning of

12:42 ↗ the project were not met uh there wasn't

12:45 ↗ as much of a geographic diversity of the

12:47 ↗ projects that we would have liked and

12:49 ↗ the variety of projects weren't as

12:51 ↗ diverse they really focused on water

12:53 ↗ quality and and flooding and habitat

12:55 ↗ were a little bit uh low on the list so

12:59 ↗ um and this isn't this is not uncommon I

13:01 ↗ can tell you that I've done this with a

13:03 ↗ number of other organizations I've been

13:05 ↗ with and uh what you're what we're doing

13:07 ↗ is going from basically a project

13:09 ↗ ranking to a portfolio ranking so that's

13:12 ↗ where we made a few minor adjustments

13:15 ↗ um and we substituted four projects let

13:17 ↗ me just say though the the projects that

13:19 ↗ came out they're still high priority and

13:21 ↗ we still get to we will still get to

13:23 ↗ them at some point in time in the future

13:25 ↗ excited

13:30 ↗ and here's unveiling of our list this is

13:32 ↗ what we are recommending again to get

13:35 ↗ into our CIP process over the next you

13:37 ↗ know six years 10 years

13:45 ↗ okay there

13:46 ↗ all right we're good we're good okay so

13:49 ↗ again we won't go over these all uh

13:53 ↗ together but what I would let you to

13:54 ↗ draw attention to is again the variety

13:57 ↗ of project types we have water quality a

14:00 ↗ combination flooding projects water

14:01 ↗ quality projects alone habitat Alone

14:04 ↗ um and then the different basins that we

14:07 ↗ have

14:08 ↗ um there's a city-wide but then also you

14:10 ↗ know it's a qua Creek Schneider Tibbetts

14:12 ↗ Park Hill and laughing Jacobs and Lewis

14:14 ↗ so we really felt that this is you know

14:17 ↗ getting to match our original goal of

14:20 ↗ diverse project types and diverse basins

14:24 ↗ next slide please

14:32 ↗ sorry

14:34 ↗ okay we can go to the next one as well

14:36 ↗ too so I'm just going to go to two

14:38 ↗ oopsie

14:41 ↗ let's go to the Old Town slide Alan uh

14:43 ↗ so I'm just going to go over two two

14:44 ↗ projects in Old Town that I think will

14:47 ↗ have you know uh uh you know the most

14:50 ↗ some of the most discussion here because

14:52 ↗ of the um the multifaceted uh Solutions

14:56 ↗ we're trying to get at

14:58 ↗ um so this is the first the first one is

15:00 ↗ Old Town targeted Basin study and plan

15:03 ↗ and

15:04 ↗ um let me first say that this is going

15:06 ↗ to be

15:07 ↗ um in collaboration and with our dear

15:10 ↗ friends at King County surface water

15:12 ↗ management and the flood control

15:14 ↗ district so what we're looking at is

15:17 ↗ um major ways that we can address

15:20 ↗ um particular the flooding issues and

15:23 ↗ the down you know that the old town area

15:25 ↗ but also provide water quality and

15:29 ↗ habitat and one of the things that that

15:32 ↗ we evolved learned through this project

15:34 ↗ is that um the regional Regional work

15:38 ↗ Upstream in King County unincorporated

15:40 ↗ areas something that the city can fund

15:43 ↗ if there is a benefit Downstream to the

15:47 ↗ city

15:48 ↗ um and that could be leveraged with

15:49 ↗ additional King County dollars

15:52 ↗ um so we're going to continue to work

15:54 ↗ with them over the next couple years to

15:56 ↗ identify a couple things what are the

15:59 ↗ the new the best known risks for

16:02 ↗ flooding in this area they are currently

16:04 ↗ under underway with a new floodplain map

16:07 ↗ and they're also going to look at how

16:10 ↗ the channel may move around during these

16:13 ↗ big floods so we can overlay their work

16:15 ↗ with our existing and our known problems

16:18 ↗ and then work together to come up with

16:21 ↗ uh ways in a regional way to address

16:24 ↗ these issues most cost effectively

16:27 ↗ okay next slide Allen please

16:33 ↗ and again another big one here is I

16:36 ↗ would call this a subset of what we were

16:37 ↗ talking about but this is something we

16:39 ↗ can do independently of the King County

16:41 ↗ work

16:42 ↗ um again this is

16:44 ↗ this came through from you know almost

16:46 ↗ everybody we talked to the issues

16:48 ↗ especially the flooding issues and water

16:50 ↗ quality issues around Old Town uh is

16:52 ↗ there a way to construct a a regional

16:55 ↗ facility in the old town area that could

16:58 ↗ both uh reduce the impacts of uh

17:03 ↗ existing development and future

17:05 ↗ development uh now the one caveat here

17:08 ↗ from our initial

17:10 ↗ um initial work it would probably be a

17:12 ↗ fairly large facility about two acres so

17:15 ↗ we don't know if that's going to be

17:16 ↗ something that's feasible but we still

17:19 ↗ want to look at that because that would

17:20 ↗ be a great way to get to leverage

17:22 ↗ dollars not only from our Utility Fund

17:25 ↗ but also from our development community

17:28 ↗ so these were two that I just wanted to

17:31 ↗ highlight that were some of the biggest

17:32 ↗ projects and again you can feel uh free

17:36 ↗ to kind of really take a deep look at

17:38 ↗ the other eight projects that we have

17:40 ↗ and Alan and I you know will take you

17:42 ↗ know you know questions tonight but

17:43 ↗ questions over the next few weeks if you

17:45 ↗ have any concerns or questions about

17:47 ↗ those uh because we are still uh as I

17:50 ↗ wanted to just point out

17:52 ↗ um over the before we go back to council

17:55 ↗ for each of these projects that are on

17:57 ↗ this list we will have a a little bit

18:00 ↗ more defined scope and

18:03 ↗ um and also a budget so we can again uh

18:06 ↗ put these in perspective into you know

18:10 ↗ our our CIP projects or CIP portfolio to

18:14 ↗ get a feeling for for when to give the

18:16 ↗ community and all of you a feeling for

18:18 ↗ how we could deliver these projects

18:20 ↗ right because there are two key

18:21 ↗ constraints one obviously is the funding

18:24 ↗ uh the two is our staffing that we're

18:26 ↗ able to you know work and it's not only

18:29 ↗ Public Work Staffing but Jennifer's time

18:31 ↗ and parks and other folks in the city

18:34 ↗ that we really are going to have it's

18:35 ↗ going to be a team effort for all these

18:37 ↗ projects so we want to uh you know

18:39 ↗ develop a schedule that is is realistic

18:42 ↗ uh that we can deliver on

18:45 ↗ so Alan with that I think you can go to

18:47 ↗ the last slide please

18:49 ↗ uh with questions or I guess what we're

18:52 ↗ trying to wrap up uh yes yes if we have

18:55 ↗ those other projects of course but I

18:57 ↗ don't know we have time to go through

18:58 ↗ all the other projects I think the first

19:00 ↗ two of the ones I thought were we felt

19:02 ↗ most important from Parks the park

19:04 ↗ boards interests in terms of

19:06 ↗ yeah so anyhow but these are all we can

19:09 ↗ certainly

19:10 ↗ you know nothing worth let me work just

19:12 ↗ talking through the year real quick or

19:14 ↗ just highlighting yeah I'll just quickly

19:15 ↗ yeah okay

19:17 ↗ yes the next one on the list sp28 229th

19:21 ↗ Avenue Southeast water quality

19:22 ↗ improvement project so basically this is

19:24 ↗ a is a nice map there and this is an

19:27 ↗ area

19:28 ↗ um uh where the North Fork of Mr Clark

19:30 ↗ Creek comes down the hill from up the

19:33 ↗ highlands and it's where the right

19:36 ↗ adjacent to the pit there um gravel pit

19:39 ↗ and as a as an area that has a lot of uh

19:42 ↗ it's um gravel

19:44 ↗ parking area that trucks use and other

19:46 ↗ vehicles use it and it's it the problem

19:49 ↗ with that area is water comes down 220

19:52 ↗ 229th when it rains and it just causes a

19:55 ↗ lot of sedimentation and turbidity

19:57 ↗ issues which and it flows directly into

19:59 ↗ the North Fork of Issaquah Creek so we'd

20:02 ↗ like to

20:03 ↗ do a project there to stabilize that

20:06 ↗ um and prevent that erosion from

20:07 ↗ occurring and you know causing sediment

20:10 ↗ into the North Fork which of course is

20:11 ↗ we have salmon

20:13 ↗ and it's the clock Creek we want to

20:14 ↗ protect

20:15 ↗ um so that's that project Issaquah

20:17 ↗ Hobart Road fish Berry removal this one

20:19 ↗ was a project that was identified fairly

20:22 ↗ late but uh one of the projects that was

20:24 ↗ actually we one of the sources of

20:27 ↗ information for where we decided to do

20:29 ↗ our or known it or figure out our known

20:31 ↗ issues was wdfw watch State Department

20:33 ↗ fish and wildlife they have a database

20:34 ↗ of all the fish barriers in the state

20:36 ↗ and we looked looked at that database

20:38 ↗ and this was actually on that DNA

20:40 ↗ database but it was shown as not as as

20:44 ↗ being

20:45 ↗ repaired and anyhow I was out there with

20:48 ↗ another staff member and we observed

20:50 ↗ that this it's a it's a barrier it's a

20:52 ↗ major fish barrier and so we thought

20:54 ↗ that would be a good project to do to

20:56 ↗ open that up at the covert and um so we

20:59 ↗ can increase the fish use

21:03 ↗ um Savage code parking stream habit

21:05 ↗ enhancement project this is actually a

21:07 ↗ project that would work nicely with with

21:09 ↗ the parks department this would be a

21:11 ↗ channel restoration project

21:13 ↗ um uh along

21:15 ↗ um Schneider Creek at the outfall to

21:18 ↗ Lake Sammamish or the where yeah it

21:21 ↗ comes in like some atmosphere at The

21:23 ↗ Cove Park so I believe that the park

21:27 ↗ support is doing some restoration there

21:28 ↗ it will at some point be doing some

21:30 ↗ restoration along there planting so we

21:32 ↗ would like to work work with you all to

21:35 ↗ do a stream restoration project there so

21:38 ↗ and that also would work well with a

21:40 ↗ wash dot they're doing a Cove

21:42 ↗ replacement of Schneider Creek and so we

21:45 ↗ would coordinate all the efforts with

21:47 ↗ them because they planned opening that

21:48 ↗ up with a nice fish possible Culvert

21:51 ↗ across I-90

21:53 ↗ the new Broadway water quality retrofit

21:55 ↗ uh this is uh retrofit one we call it

21:58 ↗ oversized proposed Road facility so this

22:00 ↗ would be a water quality treatment

22:01 ↗ facility that we would work in

22:03 ↗ conjunction with uh our transportation

22:06 ↗ department they're doing a corridor

22:07 ↗ Improvement project along Newport Way

22:09 ↗ and while they're doing their

22:12 ↗ improvements the road improvements we

22:14 ↗ thought that would be a good opportunity

22:15 ↗ to um

22:17 ↗ collaborate with them and do a joint

22:19 ↗ project where we could do water quality

22:20 ↗ treatment above and beyond with it but

22:22 ↗ they're required to treat so

22:24 ↗ um

22:25 ↗ East Lake Sammamish Parkway water

22:27 ↗ quality retrofit uh here again this

22:29 ↗ would be a retrofitting in that term we

22:32 ↗ use to mean uh treating imperface

22:35 ↗ surfaces pollution generating that are

22:36 ↗ not being treated currently and so it

22:39 ↗ would be putting in treatment facilities

22:40 ↗ to treat East Lake Sammamish Parkway

22:43 ↗ which is a high use high ADT you know a

22:46 ↗ lot of cars used to travel I have a

22:49 ↗ family trip thank you thank you

22:52 ↗ um so this would be a nice actually

22:54 ↗ thought it would be a good place to get

22:55 ↗ a lot of bang for the buck for water

22:57 ↗ quality treatment

22:59 ↗ in the Southeast 43rd way roadway storm

23:02 ↗ water treatment facility and here again

23:04 ↗ another

23:05 ↗ um

23:06 ↗ this is where we would put it in

23:07 ↗ retrofit treating areas that are not

23:09 ↗ being treated currently on Southeast

23:12 ↗ 43rd way

23:14 ↗ um with using a

23:16 ↗ variety of

23:18 ↗ enhanced treatment facilities like storm

23:21 ↗ filters which we use in the city so

23:23 ↗ in other areas and then West Lake

23:25 ↗ Sammamish Parkway water quality retrofit

23:28 ↗ uh similar project

23:32 ↗ um just retrofitting roadways to do

23:34 ↗ additional treatment where there's not

23:36 ↗ currently no treatment this would

23:38 ↗ actually work well with washdot because

23:39 ↗ there are replacing the Lewis Creek over

23:42 ↗ across I-90 and we've been working with

23:45 ↗ them and they're aware of what we're

23:46 ↗ trying to get their implementation

23:47 ↗ scheduled so we could maybe coordinate

23:49 ↗ in doing because they're gonna have to

23:51 ↗ use improvements on West Lake cinemas

23:53 ↗ Parkway as part of the Culvert

23:54 ↗ replacement project so that's the time

23:57 ↗ to go in there and and do some

23:59 ↗ retrofitting while they're in there

24:00 ↗ tearing up the road

24:03 ↗ um that's why for programmatic fish bear

24:06 ↗ inventory

24:07 ↗ and removal so this would be basically a

24:11 ↗ a project to go out and investigate an

24:14 ↗ inventory and then prioritize where we

24:17 ↗ want to do some fish barrier removals

24:19 ↗ where there's culverts that are not not

24:21 ↗ fish possible or limited fish passable

24:24 ↗ and once again that's using WWE's they

24:28 ↗ have their their list of of barrier a

24:31 ↗ fish barrier culverts and we would use

24:33 ↗ that list and go out and actually feel

24:35 ↗ verify what needs to be done and

24:36 ↗ prioritize it

24:39 ↗ um

24:41 ↗ and uh actually

24:43 ↗ yeah and this is just another it's the

24:45 ↗ same project basically just because now

24:47 ↗ this is this is actually photographs of

24:48 ↗ that project we talked about earlier

24:50 ↗ that

24:51 ↗ um was a standalone fishberry removal

24:53 ↗ project and you can see that's clearly a

24:56 ↗ fish barrier

24:57 ↗ um on the left and top left there

24:59 ↗ um so and that'll open up a lot of nice

25:02 ↗ habitat for Sam and Upstream

25:05 ↗ so okay that's quick run down to those

25:11 ↗ [Music]

25:11 ↗ um

25:13 ↗ so I guess yeah Direction needed

25:14 ↗ feedback on the method wow so Gary unit

25:17 ↗ I don't know if you wanted to take this

25:19 ↗ slide or yeah no no let me just that was

25:22 ↗ great Alan and again we're we're looking

25:24 ↗ for any just real major concerns or

25:28 ↗ comments uh it's it's positive as well

25:31 ↗ on the methodology we used uh again

25:34 ↗ that's why we want to make sure that you

25:35 ↗ know we we did a robust process on a

25:38 ↗ fair process to get to the projects and

25:40 ↗ programs and then any thoughts on on

25:43 ↗ those on those projects and programs

25:45 ↗ again knowing that this is CIP heavy and

25:48 ↗ we will be coming back to you to talk

25:50 ↗ more about some of the operational work

25:51 ↗ we're doing as public works but across

25:54 ↗ the city to also reduce uh flooding

25:57 ↗ impacts uh improve water quality improve

26:00 ↗ habitat

26:01 ↗ uh but this is kind of what we'd uh what

26:03 ↗ looking for you now thank you

26:10 ↗ I see Bradley

26:13 ↗ have any questions yeah

26:14 ↗ Brad

26:17 ↗ so my question is uh do any of these

26:21 ↗ projects uh require some sort of an

26:23 ↗ environmental impact review or maybe

26:26 ↗ most of them do I don't know but I kind

26:28 ↗ of wanted to see about that

26:30 ↗ yeah we already take out a little you

26:33 ↗ can probably nail that one

26:35 ↗ yeah so at every project we do is I'm

26:37 ↗ gonna will require of course going

26:39 ↗ through the sepa so that's you know

26:41 ↗ that'll require a seat to process and

26:43 ↗ then yes there'll be

26:46 ↗ um most of them require if they're in

26:47 ↗ water work they're going to require you

26:49 ↗ know a core permit and working with fish

26:51 ↗ and wildlife and getting a hydraulic

26:52 ↗ project approval permit called the HPA

26:56 ↗ um so yes we will definitely be that's a

26:59 ↗ big part of all these projects will be

27:01 ↗ the environmental review and

27:03 ↗ um the tribes usually in coordination

27:05 ↗ with the tribes Michael shoots and

27:07 ↗ Snoqualmie tribe as well we bring them

27:09 ↗ in early bring them in early so they can

27:11 ↗ see what we're proposing you know early

27:13 ↗ on in the design phase and make sure we

27:15 ↗ address their comments and we do with

27:17 ↗ every project every restoration project

27:19 ↗ we do so Again Brad I just like to add

27:22 ↗ that was one of the kind of the

27:23 ↗ criterias uh during the screening is

27:25 ↗ this project really feasible given you

27:28 ↗ know a potential uh impacts including

27:30 ↗ environmental so like I said we're going

27:32 ↗ to go through the process but we did

27:33 ↗ take a little look at that because

27:34 ↗ you're at one thing we wouldn't want to

27:36 ↗ do is cause more environmental

27:38 ↗ destruction to get an environmental

27:40 ↗ benefit so we we did at least look at

27:42 ↗ that the first console thank you for

27:43 ↗ that question

27:46 ↗ kind of tied to that question I know for

27:49 ↗ the evaluation period and picking which

27:51 ↗ projects do we do any kind of

27:52 ↗ post-project monitoring or seeing if the

27:55 ↗ environmental impact was accurate and do

27:57 ↗ we help does that help us drive for

27:59 ↗ future projects and all that other sure

28:01 ↗ I can take that Gary

28:03 ↗ so further so we had three types of

28:05 ↗ projects we had restoration flooding and

28:08 ↗ water quality treatment so the the

28:09 ↗ restoration projects those are the ones

28:11 ↗ where we we do we do require in fact

28:13 ↗ this in our city code that when we do a

28:15 ↗ restorated stream restoration project

28:16 ↗ let's say where we're you know putting

28:18 ↗ side channels and Backwater channels and

28:20 ↗ all the large Woody debris you may see

28:22 ↗ in some of these restoration projects we

28:24 ↗ do require post-construction

28:26 ↗ um when we put in Plants we have to make

28:27 ↗ sure that those plants

28:29 ↗ um survive right we have certain uh

28:31 ↗ performance standards we have to meet

28:33 ↗ like 80 survival rates and they do get

28:35 ↗ monitored for a five-year period

28:38 ↗ um some projects can be tense so it

28:41 ↗ could be about seven yeah I guess it

28:42 ↗ seems like you're every so often those

28:44 ↗ numbers increase but I believe in our

28:46 ↗ code we part minimum five-year uh

28:48 ↗ monitoring of all the the native plants

28:50 ↗ that we install for all these

28:52 ↗ restoration projects to make sure they

28:53 ↗ do meet the 80 survival rates Etc

28:56 ↗ because yeah we're putting all this

28:57 ↗ money into we want them to survive and

28:59 ↗ um

29:00 ↗ yeah definitely

29:02 ↗ yeah so yeah let me just add a little

29:05 ↗ bit I'm not I'm not sure who asked that

29:06 ↗ question they couldn't see it but it's

29:07 ↗ an awesome question and and I think you

29:10 ↗ know where we're gonna also be heading

29:12 ↗ and you're gonna you know hear more

29:13 ↗ about this and may have already but our

29:15 ↗ just the asset management work at the

29:17 ↗ city is you know making sure that we're

29:19 ↗ doing a better job uh you know once we

29:22 ↗ install some some of these larger

29:24 ↗ facilities water quality or flooding to

29:25 ↗ be tracking them and yeah are they are

29:28 ↗ they performing as designed and if

29:29 ↗ they're not why just to make sure we are

29:32 ↗ getting the the value we expected out of

29:34 ↗ them

29:35 ↗ um so yeah that we we do that now to a

29:37 ↗ certain extent but you're going to see

29:38 ↗ that even more and more

29:41 ↗ um uh with Public Works going forward

29:44 ↗ thank you apparently Yeah Yeah question

29:48 ↗ so first of all thank you for walking us

29:49 ↗ through that I also think you know going

29:51 ↗ through those projects really felt like

29:53 ↗ we really prioritized

29:55 ↗ um a lot of the restoration and sort of

29:57 ↗ habitat which I think is important and I

29:59 ↗ was just curious about knowing that

30:01 ↗ we're here at the parks board meeting

30:02 ↗ how many of these 10 projects really

30:04 ↗ assist in sort of addressing flooding

30:07 ↗ within our Parks or reusable spaces

30:10 ↗ um for parks and recreation

30:13 ↗ uh I can take that briefly um maybe

30:15 ↗ there you can chime in as well but so

30:17 ↗ these 10 projects we looked at a whole

30:20 ↗ bunch of projects but we some we took

30:23 ↗ out because if they were being done by

30:26 ↗ others or they're already in our CIP

30:28 ↗ the project we've already we're already

30:30 ↗ planning to do they weren't part of this

30:32 ↗ list that we're going to implement so

30:34 ↗ sort of separate from some from other

30:36 ↗ projects and for example there is a

30:37 ↗ project in Tibbetts Creek

30:39 ↗ um we're working with child unlimited

30:42 ↗ they're doing a study along Tibbetts

30:44 ↗ Creek over by the manor to the commander

30:46 ↗ to look at the issue of the there's a

30:48 ↗ cementation Basin in Tibbetts Creek and

30:50 ↗ that um our maintenance department they

30:53 ↗ have to maintain that spend you know

30:55 ↗ tens of thousand dollars every year to

30:57 ↗ clean out that sedimentation basin

30:59 ↗ the other problem is is that that we're

31:02 ↗ not allowing the natural recruitment of

31:03 ↗ gravel through the system to keep

31:05 ↗ flushing and providing fresh gravel for

31:07 ↗ spine fish Downstream

31:10 ↗ so this study is to look at how can we

31:13 ↗ um improve the gravel recruitment

31:15 ↗ Downstream not starve it and and then

31:18 ↗ and thereby so using the material that

31:21 ↗ we'd be pulling out for thirty thousand

31:23 ↗ dollars a year in costs you know get rid

31:25 ↗ of the sedimentation Basin and let it

31:27 ↗ let the gravel move through and that

31:29 ↗ would and then also at the same time

31:30 ↗ look at the flooding issues that we're

31:31 ↗ having down there and that's we're

31:33 ↗ working with the parks department to

31:35 ↗ because you have your master planning

31:37 ↗ that is you're going through with the

31:39 ↗ tibis Valley Park and so we're working

31:41 ↗ and so we've been Jennifer and I and

31:43 ↗ Gary we're all we're plugged into that

31:45 ↗ and we're going to make sure the study

31:46 ↗ works with what you're planning to do

31:49 ↗ and how we can improve Flooding at the

31:51 ↗ park and improve fish habitat and reduce

31:53 ↗ maintenance costs so that's a good

31:55 ↗ example of hitting all three of those

31:58 ↗ but that's a study that's like I said

32:00 ↗ it's separate it wasn't included in this

32:01 ↗ because we're already doing it so you

32:04 ↗ know we did we didn't include those

32:05 ↗ projects that are already ongoing or

32:07 ↗ will be implemented next year or two so

32:11 ↗ they're budgeted I should say

32:17 ↗ [Music]

32:19 ↗ hi Gary Nicholas Lee here

32:24 ↗ thank you

32:27 ↗ um

32:27 ↗ one of the prioritizing criteria's might

32:30 ↗ have been around funding you said you're

32:31 ↗ going to explore that more later

32:33 ↗ and or maybe we can answer it here I'm

32:36 ↗ trying to understand if this any of this

32:38 ↗ um aligned with projects that are in the

32:40 ↗ step which is a longer term look for

32:41 ↗ transportation a lot of this stuff looks

32:43 ↗ like cold work roadway work right

32:45 ↗ question two is do any of these or does

32:48 ↗ our storm water system have park or

32:50 ↗ excuse to be connection fees or impact

32:52 ↗ fees and or impact great Point let me

32:55 ↗ let me do both of them the first one is

32:58 ↗ uh we we absolutely looked uh so there's

33:02 ↗ the funding I was talking about

33:04 ↗ um was limited and kind of how do we

33:06 ↗ kind of fund it in their CIP but what we

33:08 ↗ what we did Nicholas too is we have one

33:10 ↗ of the criteria was how how can we

33:12 ↗ leverage our dollars right

33:14 ↗ um so that's why you do see some of

33:16 ↗ these projects on here when you know

33:18 ↗ Alan talked about oh this might work

33:20 ↗ well with the washdop project right uh

33:22 ↗ this might work well with King County so

33:24 ↗ we did look at uh you know each of these

33:26 ↗ that not all of them but majority of

33:28 ↗ them have some type of leveraging factor

33:31 ↗ where either another agent agency could

33:33 ↗ fund into it or that it could you know

33:36 ↗ add on to what they're already doing so

33:38 ↗ so that's you know that's the real cool

33:40 ↗ part about this we and we did have one

33:43 ↗ um

33:45 ↗ multi-jurisdictional meeting uh boy I

33:47 ↗ think like in December or January uh and

33:50 ↗ a number of um you know really good

33:52 ↗ funding leveraging uh ideas came came

33:55 ↗ about uh second thing we're going to be

33:57 ↗ you know we're pretty darn good at

33:59 ↗ Issaquah looking for and going after and

34:02 ↗ receiving grants uh even just dedicated

34:04 ↗ to storm water so we will continue to do

34:07 ↗ that and there may may be other

34:09 ↗ opportunities especially when we talk

34:12 ↗ about the parks and stormwater Synergy

34:14 ↗ uh to go after grants maybe that that we

34:17 ↗ haven't been accessed successful at

34:18 ↗ before but now that we're a little more

34:20 ↗ coordinated uh uh we could do better at

34:23 ↗ and then the impacts fees no for storm

34:25 ↗ water we necessarily you know we we have

34:27 ↗ our rates right so the rates really are

34:29 ↗ our basis for it but then when you when

34:32 ↗ we talk about that that one I think was

34:34 ↗ the second project uh the regional

34:36 ↗ facility uh that's where we could

34:38 ↗ leverage uh development dollars as well

34:41 ↗ um so instead of building something uh

34:44 ↗ you know let's let's say a hundred small

34:46 ↗ facilities uh developments across Old

34:48 ↗ Town we could pool that money together

34:50 ↗ and build something larger so that's

34:52 ↗ that's another way we can just be

34:54 ↗ creative with the funding

34:55 ↗ so uh you know to answer that last part

34:57 ↗ yeah no no storm impact fees necessarily

35:00 ↗ but that is you know part of our rate

35:02 ↗ base is to get money to do projects like

35:04 ↗ this

35:07 ↗ is that does that did that hit that

35:10 ↗ yeah I mean I think that that's all I

35:13 ↗ was wondering okay

35:15 ↗ thank you

35:19 ↗ any other questions

35:24 ↗ Tim I think I saw Tim though okay

35:28 ↗ okay yeah that's right I have just a

35:30 ↗ quick follow-up and you really just

35:31 ↗ touched on most of the answer to what I

35:33 ↗ was going to ask you which really

35:35 ↗ involved you know partnering with the uh

35:38 ↗ the county the state and maybe the feds

35:40 ↗ uh to pay for some of this and do the

35:46 ↗ projects you described sound terrific

35:48 ↗ but has there been any sort of filter

35:51 ↗ pass through in terms of you know

35:53 ↗ funding do they fit inside the

35:56 ↗ broad vision of the funding you think

35:58 ↗ you can bring to the table to pay for it

36:00 ↗ or is that not a filter you're really

36:03 ↗ applying at this time

36:04 ↗ no Tim that's a great point on on the

36:07 ↗ latter part yes these absolutely can fit

36:09 ↗ in but it's it's a question of if we

36:11 ↗ weren't to you know look for you know

36:13 ↗ grants or

36:15 ↗ and we will actually be answered this

36:17 ↗ question very specifically before we go

36:19 ↗ to council but let me just hit it now if

36:21 ↗ we didn't look for those those Regional

36:23 ↗ you know Partnerships the grants you

36:25 ↗ know this is probably like a 20-year

36:28 ↗ Endeavor right with these 10 projects

36:29 ↗ and some of them are very large but what

36:31 ↗ we're hoping to do uh by leveraging you

36:35 ↗ know the funding uh getting additional

36:37 ↗ grants is bringing that those years down

36:40 ↗ where we could actually you know do uh

36:42 ↗ do more of these projects

36:44 ↗ um in a shorter time frame and I just

36:47 ↗ want to highlight

36:48 ↗ um one thing and I think we're going to

36:50 ↗ be having a joint presentation at

36:52 ↗ environmental board probably next year

36:54 ↗ on this but the the partnership with

36:56 ↗ King County uh is going to be amazed I'm

36:59 ↗ really excited about that so again I

37:02 ↗ mentioned the the uh floodplain mapping

37:05 ↗ they're doing and the channel migration

37:07 ↗ work but um there's also another arm of

37:10 ↗ King County that many of you may be

37:12 ↗ aware but the King County Flood Control

37:14 ↗ District

37:15 ↗ there is current funding at a 800 000

37:18 ↗ level to start looking uh at coordinated

37:21 ↗ projects between uh the county and the

37:24 ↗ city

37:25 ↗ um in their CIP already uh now that's

37:27 ↗ probably for you know uh that sounds

37:29 ↗ like a lot of money but these are going

37:30 ↗ to be some big projects uh but that's in

37:33 ↗ there already and there could be more

37:35 ↗ coming from that uh because the you know

37:37 ↗ the County Council and the flood control

37:40 ↗ district realize how serious of an issue

37:43 ↗ flooding is on Issaquah Creek so so

37:45 ↗ that's one Tim I think we all just want

37:47 ↗ to keep looking at and I I'm really

37:50 ↗ hopeful we can leverage that and that

37:51 ↗ will bring the time frame uh you know

37:53 ↗ down from from about 20 years hopefully

37:56 ↗ hey Gary if I could just add to that

37:59 ↗ real quick

38:00 ↗ helping to answer your question Tim

38:02 ↗ um

38:03 ↗ so the jurisdiction from Once I came

38:07 ↗ um down in South King County Kent we did

38:09 ↗ a lot of work with King County and that

38:11 ↗ Flood Control District and a lot of

38:14 ↗ um successful work around multiple

38:17 ↗ benefits within that flood plain so

38:19 ↗ looking at how not only riparian habitat

38:23 ↗ flood control but also recreational use

38:26 ↗ can be accomplished through projects so

38:30 ↗ um yeah it'll be it'll be interesting to

38:33 ↗ see how an exciting to see how

38:34 ↗ opportunities might present themselves

38:36 ↗ on Issaquah Creek and just like this

38:40 ↗ idea we've already leveraged fair amount

38:41 ↗ of Grant funds already for the projects

38:44 ↗ but the Tibbetts Creek study that we had

38:45 ↗ talked about earlier that's being funded

38:47 ↗ through a King County flood control

38:49 ↗ Grant

38:51 ↗ um and they're also we have three water

38:53 ↗ quality ecology water quality retropic

38:55 ↗ grants that were that we'll get started

38:57 ↗ on and the best retrofit whole town

39:00 ↗ um so

39:02 ↗ yeah so that's definitely what we want

39:04 ↗ to look for is these leveraging all the

39:06 ↗ grants out there for sure so

39:09 ↗ great thank you absolutely brief comment

39:12 ↗ uh you know it's very apropos showing up

39:14 ↗ right before examine days so I just want

39:18 ↗ to Echo what Marlene said you know it's

39:20 ↗ this is the heart and soul of the

39:22 ↗ community for some portion of us anyways

39:24 ↗ from the environmental impact and taking

39:26 ↗ care of the ones that can't take care of

39:27 ↗ themselves so yes

39:29 ↗ um well just one quick thing I want to

39:31 ↗ add on this along the line so the one

39:35 ↗ the restoration project that I'm I'm

39:37 ↗ managing that's we're wrapping up

39:39 ↗ construction so it's the lowest quad

39:40 ↗ Creek stream in repair and enhancement

39:42 ↗ project that's over by Costco so it's um

39:45 ↗ in terms of opportunity or opportunistic

39:49 ↗ having it completed right at salmon days

39:51 ↗ and actually we saw fish coming up

39:53 ↗ through the through the restoration area

39:55 ↗ the last couple weeks and they're

39:57 ↗ utilizing all the wood that we've

39:58 ↗ installed on any channel so it's

40:00 ↗ so if you ever go by the trail by Costco

40:03 ↗ where all the new um headquarters

40:05 ↗ buildings are being Pickering Trails if

40:07 ↗ you look across the creek you can't miss

40:09 ↗ it it's just a huge

40:11 ↗ backward channels the contractor graded

40:13 ↗ outside channels it's really pretty

40:15 ↗ amazing and we kept the majority of all

40:18 ↗ mature trees in that area because

40:20 ↗ they're all trees that were planted way

40:22 ↗ back during the um early 1900s because

40:25 ↗ it's all Homestead sites that the city

40:27 ↗ purchased parcels and and we kept all

40:30 ↗ there's like a huge um

40:32 ↗ uh Sequoia I'm joined Sequoia that we

40:34 ↗ kept and we cut most of the mature trees

40:36 ↗ so it's really neat to see these

40:37 ↗ channels excavated amongst all the all

40:40 ↗ the mature trees so

40:42 ↗ [Music]

40:46 ↗ all right any other questions comments

40:53 ↗ looks like no other questions coming so

40:57 ↗ you move on to both side part thank you

41:01 ↗ so much thank you thank you thank you

41:03 ↗ very much we appreciate it

41:05 ↗ foreign

41:45 ↗ [Laughter]

41:50 ↗ so Hillside Park so we're here tonight

41:53 ↗ to talk through the conceptual design as

41:57 ↗ you know we've had a number of

41:58 ↗ conversations and and I just I just want

42:00 ↗ to set the context that if you remember

42:02 ↗ with our Park capital projects we really

42:05 ↗ have these three very distinct

42:08 ↗ periods of time for a capital project

42:10 ↗ you have sort of your planning and

42:12 ↗ conceptual work then you go into design

42:15 ↗ and permitting and then you go into

42:17 ↗ Construction

42:19 ↗ um what you're going to hear tonight and

42:20 ↗ and I think the conversation tonight I

42:22 ↗ just want to set the context for think

42:24 ↗ of it as it we're at a gate we're at the

42:26 ↗ Gate of going from conceptual design

42:28 ↗ really working with the neighborhood and

42:31 ↗ a very emotional neighborhood that had a

42:33 ↗ lot of different opinions

42:35 ↗ um to try and build consensus on a

42:36 ↗ conceptual design so tonight is really

42:38 ↗ about the opportunity for that

42:41 ↗ conceptual design to be actualized you

42:45 ↗ know here's the consensus we found and

42:47 ↗ for you to consider taking action as we

42:49 ↗ go from the Gate of conceptual design

42:52 ↗ into design and permitting design

42:55 ↗ permitting will have its own set of

42:57 ↗ environmental

42:59 ↗ related engagement and public engagement

43:01 ↗ but I just I just want to sort of remind

43:04 ↗ you of the bigger context of a capital

43:06 ↗ project we're sort of going from in this

43:09 ↗ first phase to the second phase

43:12 ↗ not Jim please take it away all right

43:15 ↗ I said

43:20 ↗ so

43:22 ↗ Hillside Park

43:24 ↗ um as you know in the main quick to do

43:27 ↗ this

43:29 ↗ um Hillside Park as you know

43:32 ↗ um we had been working with the

43:34 ↗ community over the past two years to

43:38 ↗ um come up with a concept uh to

43:41 ↗ introduce play within the community

43:43 ↗ through all of our engagements

43:47 ↗ um there are some these nine large items

43:51 ↗ that kind of came out as priority

43:53 ↗ improvements and that is make some

43:56 ↗ enhancements at the entrance uh engage

44:00 ↗ in making the trails more accessible

44:04 ↗ um add more tables and seating to the

44:06 ↗ park areas

44:08 ↗ create a log climber and slide area uh

44:12 ↗ Timber steps in an Overlook area

44:15 ↗ also improve existing Trail connections

44:18 ↗ to the neighborhood up through the

44:21 ↗ cemetery here

44:23 ↗ right now there's some use conflicts

44:25 ↗ between the cemetery and uh

44:28 ↗ visitors people walking over Graves

44:32 ↗ which is not good this work would help

44:35 ↗ minimize those conflicts

44:37 ↗ and then also

44:39 ↗ um we'd keep the existing backstop

44:42 ↗ because the community really wanted to

44:45 ↗ and they also want to retain uh what we

44:47 ↗ know as an act of wetland as a play

44:50 ↗ field

44:51 ↗ um so we will be making drainage

44:53 ↗ improvements for that to make that

44:55 ↗ surface more playable year-round for

44:58 ↗ that so we took all of these

45:01 ↗ um little points and with the help of

45:05 ↗ our consultant team

45:06 ↗ finished after a several

45:10 ↗ series of several meetings on-site

45:12 ↗ in-person workshops and surveys and come

45:17 ↗ up with this layout this is a

45:19 ↗ perspective you kind of standing at home

45:21 ↗ plate looking over to where the play

45:23 ↗ areas would be we have the sledding hill

45:26 ↗ that the community wanted to retain the

45:29 ↗ entrance is kind of back over to the

45:31 ↗ side tables and seating are going to

45:34 ↗ remain about where they are right now

45:35 ↗ with an enhanced accessible trail that

45:39 ↗ will get you all the way down

45:40 ↗ to the play areas down here and we have

45:44 ↗ a swing with some log climbers and

45:47 ↗ slides and we would retain this open

45:49 ↗ grassy area there is a boulder that's

45:52 ↗ very well loved in the Gathering space

45:54 ↗ and that will stay the same as well

46:00 ↗ this is somewhat of a different

46:02 ↗ perspective of the play area you can see

46:07 ↗ keeping in with the natural theme it was

46:09 ↗ really important to the community that

46:11 ↗ this fit within the natural setting of

46:13 ↗ the park it didn't violate the wooded

46:16 ↗ feeling of the park but still provides

46:19 ↗ some opportunity for different elements

46:22 ↗ of play while being visually

46:24 ↗ um

46:25 ↗ not visually impactful you know it's not

46:27 ↗ bright colors it's not metal it's really

46:30 ↗ items that fit within the natural

46:32 ↗ landscape and also we can soften some of

46:35 ↗ them with little pockets of planting

46:38 ↗ around the area so we put all these

46:41 ↗ survey Concepts out to the community

46:43 ↗ there's kind of what an aerial view

46:46 ↗ of that space would look like

46:50 ↗ we received some really good feedback

46:53 ↗ when asked the final question do you

46:57 ↗ feel the final proposed concept balances

47:00 ↗ the goals of preserving the natural

47:03 ↗ character of the park while adding play

47:05 ↗ amenities as well as trial and Field

47:08 ↗ improvements from a very what was a

47:12 ↗ diverse uh sense of what should happen

47:15 ↗ out there we have really come a long way

47:18 ↗ where 74 feel we have been able to reach

47:22 ↗ that balance 13 were mixed but they were

47:27 ↗ like those were the yes but answers you

47:31 ↗ know they weren't hard yeses or hard

47:33 ↗ no's

47:34 ↗ um like I don't want a plastic slide or

47:37 ↗ I you know little things like that that

47:40 ↗ didn't really Sway and then we had

47:42 ↗ um our nose as well

47:45 ↗ so in general I'm not if I'm not

47:48 ↗ mistaken yes I did break this up

47:50 ↗ differently no it's okay it's okay no so

47:53 ↗ we um sent you the actual survey

47:56 ↗ responses earlier those have been on the

47:58 ↗ website and posted on the website

48:02 ↗ um but you'll notice within that

48:05 ↗ um survey feedback we took a finer tooth

48:08 ↗ comb than even that to sort of break

48:10 ↗ down okay within those mixed responses

48:13 ↗ which way were those mixed leaning was

48:16 ↗ it a was it a mix of yeah I like most of

48:19 ↗ it but I really don't like this specific

48:21 ↗ so let's make sure we capture that as a

48:24 ↗ a mixed sort of trending towards yes

48:27 ↗ versus there were some mixed responses

48:29 ↗ that were I really don't like this

48:31 ↗ except for this one element right so it

48:33 ↗ was more of a more of a mix but leaning

48:36 ↗ towards a no and so you'll notice in the

48:38 ↗ survey responses that you received a

48:41 ↗ little fire tooth breakdown yeah and I

48:43 ↗ apologize I pulled up

48:45 ↗ um not the one the presentation that's

48:47 ↗ in your packet because the other slide

48:49 ↗ there is that additional breakdown in

48:52 ↗ The Mating packet so you get 70 yes and

48:54 ↗ anything you guys like yeah yeah yeah

48:57 ↗ yeah yeah but we get a little different

48:59 ↗ breakdown

49:01 ↗ um so I think collectively it's 86 were

49:05 ↗ on the

49:06 ↗ you know mixed yes positive side and

49:10 ↗ then the other

49:11 ↗ um percent was the 14 were in the mixed

49:15 ↗ no no we have more than that when we

49:17 ↗ started that didn't want anything so

49:19 ↗ true true so I apologize I pulled up the

49:22 ↗ wrong slide on this that is my my

49:25 ↗ believersion but uh the right one is in

49:27 ↗ your package so with that

49:31 ↗ um

49:31 ↗ kind of what's next as Jeff said we're

49:34 ↗ kind of in that next Gateway we are

49:36 ↗ wrapping up the conceptual design which

49:39 ↗ is the green item here you know where

49:41 ↗ that's where we really work diligently

49:44 ↗ with the community and then

49:46 ↗ um then as we move into design and

49:49 ↗ permitting to start creating

49:50 ↗ construction documents that's when me

49:53 ↗ and the Consultants can kind of turn our

49:54 ↗ backs and we do a lot of work getting

49:57 ↗ some of that detailed design so we can

49:59 ↗ get a design packet and construction

50:00 ↗ documents together to then submit

50:04 ↗ um to the planning department so we can

50:06 ↗ start going through the permitting

50:07 ↗ active permitting process and as Jeff

50:10 ↗ mentioned earlier as part of that

50:12 ↗ process we'll also have to do

50:14 ↗ environmental review and we'll have a

50:16 ↗ neighborhood meeting as well solely to

50:18 ↗ talk about the environmental impacts and

50:21 ↗ we'll also start working with the

50:22 ↗ outside agencies in that permitting

50:25 ↗ process as we go to mitigate the Wetland

50:27 ↗ and um

50:29 ↗ uh find sites to include for the

50:32 ↗ mitigation areas and with mitigating

50:35 ↗ that critical area you'll see on this

50:36 ↗ calendar we're anticipating a full year

50:38 ↗ of Permitting all of all of 2023 to get

50:41 ↗ through that

50:42 ↗ um yeah just trying to be realistic

50:45 ↗ um in that regard so what that next year

50:48 ↗ would be finish design permitting and

50:51 ↗ then hope we'll start construction in

50:53 ↗ 24. could you I'm sorry I missed some of

50:56 ↗ that did you say again why we're meeting

50:57 ↗ the mitigate is it because of the

50:59 ↗ drainage work so the play field right

51:01 ↗ now

51:02 ↗ um the only way you went out to the

51:04 ↗ community everyone's like the grass is

51:06 ↗ always wet in the winter time what can

51:08 ↗ we do and so we're like let's check it

51:10 ↗ out so we checked it out and come to

51:12 ↗ find out it's a professional Wetland

51:14 ↗ okay uh isolated drain it off

51:17 ↗ essentially it's isolated

51:19 ↗ um it has been in that form for 40 50

51:23 ↗ years that field has been there um as is

51:25 ↗ and so it is just one of those things

51:28 ↗ that over time

51:30 ↗ um it we live in a wet area

51:33 ↗ depressions uh change and so we found

51:36 ↗ out to our surprise that it was a

51:39 ↗ wetland

51:40 ↗ um in the middle of what had been used

51:42 ↗ as a plant field so we're having to

51:45 ↗ mitigate for that because the community

51:47 ↗ would like to keep it yeah and those

51:49 ↗ that were here last year and forgive us

51:52 ↗ new parkour members we last summer we

51:55 ↗ had a long conversation with the

51:57 ↗ neighborhood around giving this Wetland

52:00 ↗ realization right that a a functional

52:03 ↗ Playfield in a wetland can't live

52:05 ↗ together so really and they wrote what

52:07 ↗ what is the priority do you want the

52:09 ↗ function of that field and if so we're

52:11 ↗ going to need to mitigate we're going to

52:13 ↗ need to take this Wetland and have it

52:15 ↗ environmentally function better

52:16 ↗ somewhere else and really overwhelming

52:19 ↗ response from the neighborhood was we

52:21 ↗ really that Field's important that play

52:23 ↗ feels really really important to the

52:25 ↗ neighborhood and so that's set into

52:26 ↗ motion this pretty extensive mitigation

52:29 ↗ process because it's not just the

52:32 ↗ Wetland itself that you have to mitigate

52:34 ↗ for it's also the 75-foot buffer around

52:37 ↗ that Wetland that you also have to

52:39 ↗ mitigate for so that would have really

52:40 ↗ have taken up almost the entire park

52:42 ↗ space we started us let's head up face

52:44 ↗ character and then turned into like oh

52:46 ↗ no

52:48 ↗ honestly I mean I think I think just

52:51 ↗ putting my Parks hat on and and you know

52:55 ↗ I think Hillside Park is such a

52:57 ↗ wonderful space and and really the goal

52:59 ↗ is how to preserve that natural informal

53:02 ↗ feel but as an as something that if

53:04 ↗ function as an informal part for

53:07 ↗ decades right you know sometimes these

53:11 ↗ kind of things happen as you consider

53:13 ↗ adding an amenity or looking at an

53:15 ↗ amenity or hey we want that we want that

53:17 ↗ field to function better that field

53:19 ↗ doesn't drain all that good so make it

53:21 ↗ drain better well as you discovered and

53:24 ↗ have a drain better the the reason isn't

53:26 ↗ draining so well is it's a critical area

53:28 ↗ that has to be that has to be addressed

53:31 ↗ and so it's almost this discovery phase

53:33 ↗ of

53:34 ↗ still keeping that neighborhood park

53:37 ↗ natural and very informal but

53:40 ↗ um

53:41 ↗ I think finally

53:43 ↗ allowing it to function as a

53:44 ↗ neighborhood park is going to require

53:46 ↗ some of this um some of this work so

53:49 ↗ you're right what started as looking at

53:52 ↗ play is is doing a whole lot more to

53:55 ↗ this park um if I could add one more

53:57 ↗ more and more comment before we go into

53:59 ↗ discussion so another thing that we've

54:01 ↗ done that I mentioned last month is

54:04 ↗ through this process we've been looking

54:06 ↗ at budget and so city council is sort of

54:09 ↗ the the overseers of the budget as part

54:12 ↗ of the mayor's proposed budget process

54:14 ↗ proposed budget for 2324 we are

54:16 ↗ requesting an additional nine hundred

54:18 ↗ thousand dollars for this project that

54:21 ↗ 900 000 really as we've been talking

54:24 ↗ with our environmental consultants and

54:27 ↗ with the Department of ecology and some

54:29 ↗ of the other permanent folks trying to

54:30 ↗ get a sense of what full mitigation is

54:32 ↗ going to look like and building in some

54:34 ↗ funding there we've also learned from

54:36 ↗ Blackberry Park and that construction

54:39 ↗ happening the cost of materials the cost

54:42 ↗ of Labor have on a little higher than

54:44 ↗ what was estimated

54:46 ↗ um a year or two ago so we built that

54:48 ↗ built that inflationary reality into

54:51 ↗ that budget request so in permanent case

54:53 ↗ as well and then permitting fees that

54:55 ↗ are going to go with that agencies

54:58 ↗ right multiple checks to multiple

55:00 ↗ agencies yeah yeah become a reality so

55:04 ↗ all of that is as we're looking and

55:06 ↗ considering this schedule of 23

55:08 ↗ permitting 24 that budget request is

55:11 ↗ going forward to to make sure this

55:14 ↗ project is uh is funded

55:17 ↗ it's a good time to need to draw down on

55:19 ↗ Reserves

55:23 ↗ so with that as Jeff mentioned all of

55:28 ↗ all are on the project webpage I sent

55:31 ↗ them out to you tonight they were meant

55:33 ↗ to be in the packet of my apologies

55:36 ↗ um but we'll add them as for minutes but

55:38 ↗ they are on the web page already should

55:40 ↗ you care to take a look at it

55:42 ↗ so with that

55:44 ↗ um open it up for any board discussion

55:47 ↗ regarding this project before we

55:49 ↗ move into that next space would you want

55:52 ↗ to take action

55:55 ↗ I'll just add a quick question if I

55:57 ↗ could draw yeah quick um so where does

56:00 ↗ the um the mitigation process fit into

56:02 ↗ like the timeline with regards to like

56:04 ↗ construction there's 11 have to be

56:06 ↗ mitigated prior to the breaking ground

56:09 ↗ on the construction or is that something

56:11 ↗ that will happen after the fact no it's

56:14 ↗ a great question it it will learn more

56:16 ↗ through the permitting process but any

56:19 ↗ any word we do on the field drainage

56:22 ↗ improvements we need to mitigate have it

56:26 ↗ have it mitigated at first and so I

56:28 ↗ would imagine

56:30 ↗ um depending on where the location of

56:32 ↗ that mitigation is right they'll sort of

56:35 ↗ sequence the construction of that

56:37 ↗ accordingly on based upon the the permit

56:41 ↗ requirements

56:42 ↗ yes I'm not sure I think I saw Brad has

56:46 ↗ his hand up

56:49 ↗ I think that I actually have a couple

56:52 ↗ questions uh one relates to the uh Trail

56:58 ↗ uh through the cemetery whether you know

57:00 ↗ kind of what's the status of that and

57:03 ↗ whether that's going to be a separate

57:04 ↗ issue

57:05 ↗ or whether that's going to be a part of

57:08 ↗ the whole project of the Redevelopment

57:10 ↗ of Hillside Park my next question

57:14 ↗ relates to surveys and I don't know if

57:17 ↗ there's any way that this can happen or

57:20 ↗ did happen I didn't look at the last

57:23 ↗ packet that came out because it I didn't

57:25 ↗ have chance to yet but um

57:28 ↗ you know this is a this is a

57:32 ↗ community park and not used by much of

57:36 ↗ anyone other than people that live

57:38 ↗ around the park

57:39 ↗ even though I live on squawk Mountain I

57:41 ↗ don't really ever go up there and so I

57:43 ↗ think that the survey should be waited

57:45 ↗ rather heavily on people that live

57:48 ↗ around the park and use the park and my

57:50 ↗ question is is there was there any way

57:53 ↗ that that was weighted in the survey to

57:55 ↗ isolate the people that actually use

57:58 ↗ this park

58:00 ↗ um who we said the survey to do you want

58:03 ↗ to answer that one first gen and I'll

58:04 ↗ handle the cemetery question

58:06 ↗ um so with our the help of our

58:09 ↗ communication Department through our

58:10 ↗ public engagement process I have a list

58:12 ↗ of contacts of people who have sent

58:14 ↗ emails or attended meetings throughout

58:17 ↗ the years uh going all the way back to

58:20 ↗ 2014 when we had our first neighborhood

58:22 ↗ meeting up there and so I've been

58:24 ↗ building those contacts so I've been

58:27 ↗ sending every time there's any

58:29 ↗ engagement I've been sending them

58:33 ↗ um the information as well as our

58:36 ↗ Communications team has been targeting

58:38 ↗ squawk mountain and that neighborhood

58:40 ↗ for feedback on on that while it is

58:44 ↗ posted for the community it really has

58:46 ↗ been more of a neighborhood focused on

58:48 ↗ public engagement

58:51 ↗ um

58:51 ↗ the survey itself was pushed to that to

58:54 ↗ that neighborhood right right

58:58 ↗ and then to to your other question Brad

59:01 ↗ um

59:04 ↗ I'm sorry what was it the cemetery oh

59:06 ↗ the cemetery yes we did go to the

59:09 ↗ cemetery board and um chatted with them

59:12 ↗ regarding the trail connection

59:15 ↗ um they expressed a few concerns which

59:17 ↗ we've been able to

59:19 ↗ um you know bring forward and we'll work

59:22 ↗ into our designs uh we also sent letters

59:25 ↗ to all the neighbors that but the

59:27 ↗ cemetery letting them know that this

59:29 ↗ trial would be placed in there and of

59:31 ↗ all of the neighbors I think uh Brenda

59:33 ↗ you were one of them that might have

59:34 ↗ done letter from me

59:36 ↗ we received no comments back or

59:40 ↗ inquiries regarding that trail

59:42 ↗ connection and where it was going to go

59:44 ↗ we provided a map as part of that

59:46 ↗ communication so specific to your

59:48 ↗ question Brad you know the the intent is

59:51 ↗ that that trail link so in again forgive

59:55 ↗ me I was out of the room but this the

59:58 ↗ trail is trying to solve a historical

1:00:00 ↗ conflict where part people wanting to

1:00:03 ↗ access the park are walking through the

1:00:05 ↗ through the cemetery and literally

1:00:08 ↗ through the Cemetery grounds what's

1:00:09 ↗ being proposed is utilizing the 50-foot

1:00:12 ↗ buffer that the set upper Hillside

1:00:14 ↗ Cemetery can't build in but that 50-foot

1:00:17 ↗ buffer which is a portion of the park

1:00:20 ↗ um and having a trail go through that so

1:00:22 ↗ separating this conflict of recreational

1:00:24 ↗ use and Cemetery customers and so that

1:00:30 ↗ project will be part of this project

1:00:32 ↗ Brad it would be one of the same and

1:00:35 ↗ we'll continue to keep the cemetery

1:00:37 ↗ board in the loop on that on that

1:00:40 ↗ project and making sure again we're

1:00:42 ↗ we're seeking to solve a historical

1:00:45 ↗ Conflict by by moving that moving that

1:00:48 ↗ trail

1:00:51 ↗ thank you sorry

1:00:53 ↗ [Music]

1:00:57 ↗ okay Tim

1:01:03 ↗ thank you and I appreciate all the works

1:01:06 ↗ that's been done on this this is a issue

1:01:08 ↗ that's very near and dear to my heart

1:01:10 ↗ part of the reason I joined the Parks

1:01:12 ↗ Board it's a block from my house I'm

1:01:14 ↗ down there twice a day

1:01:16 ↗ I talked to the people I see what goes

1:01:18 ↗ on and there are several points I'd like

1:01:21 ↗ to bring up

1:01:23 ↗ uh first if some of you haven't been to

1:01:25 ↗ the park I invite you to just go go to

1:01:28 ↗ the park go look at it

1:01:30 ↗ and I think if you do that you will see

1:01:33 ↗ that this big open field of course a big

1:01:35 ↗ wide open grassy field on this mountain

1:01:38 ↗ is not natural at some point all the

1:01:40 ↗ trees were cut the stumps were pulled it

1:01:42 ↗ was graded and it was graded properly it

1:01:45 ↗ drains back on itself basically you can

1:01:48 ↗ just stand there and look at and be like

1:01:49 ↗ oh yeah they didn't grade it right and

1:01:51 ↗ that created the Wetland situation which

1:01:53 ↗ I think surprised everyone when they did

1:01:54 ↗ the study that this improper grading

1:01:58 ↗ created what is now a

1:02:00 ↗ by definition a wetland but that's what

1:02:03 ↗ it is

1:02:04 ↗ but when you go to the park what I

1:02:06 ↗ invite you to do is stand outside the

1:02:08 ↗ entrance and look and what you'll see is

1:02:11 ↗ two things one is there is no parking

1:02:13 ↗ other than on the street in front of

1:02:15 ↗ people's houses there's not a small

1:02:17 ↗ parking lot there's not a large parking

1:02:19 ↗ lot there's not a parking lot nearby

1:02:21 ↗ there's just parking in front of

1:02:23 ↗ people's houses

1:02:24 ↗ and

1:02:25 ↗ I think that really needs to be kept in

1:02:28 ↗ mind that this is a walk-in Park there's

1:02:31 ↗ not even sidewalks you might think well

1:02:33 ↗ kids can go down there and play there's

1:02:35 ↗ no sidewalks on the street for kids to

1:02:37 ↗ safely get down there you have to walk

1:02:39 ↗ through the street

1:02:40 ↗ okay I think what I'm getting at with

1:02:43 ↗ this is while I think the design is

1:02:45 ↗ beautiful

1:02:46 ↗ I think it's going to create more

1:02:49 ↗ traffic coming in there and what we're

1:02:50 ↗ going to be faced with is a lot of irate

1:02:53 ↗ people that live on that street I think

1:02:55 ↗ it's about McKinley that have people

1:02:58 ↗ parking in front of their houses

1:02:59 ↗ consistently just tonight I walk down

1:03:02 ↗ there about an hour before the meeting

1:03:04 ↗ and there were a few families down there

1:03:06 ↗ practicing some flag football routines

1:03:08 ↗ there were three cars parked right in

1:03:11 ↗ front where it says no parking allowed

1:03:14 ↗ because that's the only place there was

1:03:16 ↗ for them to be

1:03:17 ↗ so I think we have to be very careful

1:03:19 ↗ about making this look pretty and make

1:03:22 ↗ it interactive making a place that more

1:03:24 ↗ people want to come to because you can't

1:03:26 ↗ really get there unless you walk in

1:03:29 ↗ um

1:03:30 ↗ I think it's I think it's it's kind of

1:03:33 ↗ lost in the discussion many times

1:03:35 ↗ but I think for people that live very

1:03:38 ↗ close to the park it's a very important

1:03:40 ↗ piece of it

1:03:41 ↗ one of the neighbors that lives two

1:03:43 ↗ doors from the park happened to be out

1:03:44 ↗ this evening as I walked by and I just

1:03:46 ↗ ask him I said what do you think about

1:03:48 ↗ that he said he's a terrible idea I said

1:03:50 ↗ he said because

1:03:52 ↗ where are they going to park they're

1:03:53 ↗ going to have people coming here and

1:03:55 ↗ there's no place for them to park

1:03:57 ↗ so I want to put that out there

1:04:02 ↗ the second thing is

1:04:03 ↗ I think you know there's a whole science

1:04:06 ↗ and art form around survey questions

1:04:11 ↗ and asking the right question to get to

1:04:14 ↗ information that you really want

1:04:16 ↗ and I think the question that we asked

1:04:20 ↗ was important but is incomplete because

1:04:24 ↗ it says does it balance the nature and

1:04:27 ↗ play there's something about balance in

1:04:29 ↗ there it doesn't say is this design what

1:04:32 ↗ you want

1:04:33 ↗ or extrapolating that to say 75 to 85 of

1:04:37 ↗ people this is what they want

1:04:39 ↗ they didn't say it's what they wanted

1:04:40 ↗ they said they think it balances it

1:04:43 ↗ and I wonder if you showed them

1:04:46 ↗ the existing

1:04:49 ↗ proposal along with an identical

1:04:51 ↗ proposal but no play structure so a lot

1:04:54 ↗ of the attraction goes out of it but the

1:04:56 ↗ trails are improved the wetlands

1:04:57 ↗ mitigated uh the trail through the

1:05:00 ↗ cemetery is completed

1:05:01 ↗ but that magnet for families to come

1:05:04 ↗ with their kids is taken out

1:05:05 ↗ what would they

1:05:07 ↗ so I would say be careful how we

1:05:09 ↗ extrapolate the answers to that one

1:05:11 ↗ question that ask about balance and not

1:05:14 ↗ about is this what you want

1:05:17 ↗ so

1:05:19 ↗ I don't know how that would come out I

1:05:21 ↗ know there's been a lot of community

1:05:22 ↗ engagement I know that

1:05:24 ↗ Parks Board and Jennifer and Jeff you've

1:05:27 ↗ bent over backwards to talk to people

1:05:29 ↗ [Music]

1:05:31 ↗ personal feedback from someone that goes

1:05:33 ↗ there all the time and talks to people

1:05:35 ↗ is

1:05:37 ↗ just about flicked

1:05:39 ↗ on what you just described most people I

1:05:42 ↗ talk to are like yeah I don't think so

1:05:45 ↗ so

1:05:46 ↗ I have to put that out there

1:05:48 ↗ except I'm there all the time

1:05:51 ↗ and I just think these are perspectives

1:05:54 ↗ that

1:05:56 ↗ could slip through the cracks and we

1:05:58 ↗ need to think about it before we go

1:06:00 ↗ ahead and push it in through permitting

1:06:02 ↗ and make a decision so

1:06:04 ↗ that's it I'm done

1:06:12 ↗ Marley

1:06:16 ↗ I'm gonna respectfully make a

1:06:18 ↗ Counterpoint

1:06:19 ↗ um to some of the things that Tim

1:06:21 ↗ brought up I think

1:06:23 ↗ when we talked to people in the

1:06:25 ↗ neighborhood in that last summer right

1:06:28 ↗ there was definitely that issue of

1:06:29 ↗ parking came up right and I think that

1:06:32 ↗ is

1:06:33 ↗ interesting however I also think people

1:06:35 ↗ don't own the parking on a city street

1:06:37 ↗ so

1:06:39 ↗ I cannot control who parks on my street

1:06:41 ↗ people park in front of my house all the

1:06:43 ↗ time like that's just part of being part

1:06:46 ↗ of a community so I think

1:06:48 ↗ you know I think there are people been

1:06:50 ↗ out of shape about people parking on

1:06:51 ↗ their street but I'm not sure that

1:06:53 ↗ that's really

1:06:55 ↗ I mean they don't own that street I also

1:06:58 ↗ live in a neighborhood that has an HOA

1:07:00 ↗ and we have a private park right so I

1:07:03 ↗ also feel like in a private park

1:07:04 ↗ environment we have much more control

1:07:06 ↗ over how we want that Park to be used

1:07:09 ↗ here we have

1:07:11 ↗ City dollars in a public park it's not a

1:07:13 ↗ private park for that neighborhood so I

1:07:15 ↗ think we need to think about

1:07:17 ↗ how does the entire Community utilize

1:07:20 ↗ that space

1:07:22 ↗ so I think they're always going to be

1:07:23 ↗ the folks who don't want anything to

1:07:25 ↗ change there are also going to be the

1:07:27 ↗ people who want to utilize public

1:07:29 ↗ amenities so we need to balance those

1:07:30 ↗ two things out

1:07:32 ↗ just to offer a Counterpoint of somebody

1:07:35 ↗ who also lives on the mountain and whose

1:07:37 ↗ kids use that space

1:07:39 ↗ I just want to add one one point

1:07:43 ↗ um you know though there's one main

1:07:45 ↗ entrance to the park that's where the

1:07:47 ↗ park naming sign is

1:07:50 ↗ um other neighborhoods within the area

1:07:52 ↗ do have access to this Park via Trails

1:07:55 ↗ so they are able to come down their

1:07:57 ↗ streets and do access from various areas

1:08:00 ↗ within the park and this this is the

1:08:03 ↗ closest

1:08:04 ↗ play area other than Tibbetts Valley

1:08:06 ↗ Park for the neighborhood so just to

1:08:10 ↗ bring that up and I'm just the survey

1:08:12 ↗ said that too it's asked how you got

1:08:14 ↗ there and what different routes they

1:08:16 ↗ took yep

1:08:20 ↗ other thoughts yeah so I also have

1:08:23 ↗ another one squawk Mountain there's a

1:08:24 ↗ lot of us here apparently I have no idea

1:08:27 ↗ I'm on the side that's closest to the

1:08:30 ↗ Fish Hatchery so like not really

1:08:32 ↗ anywhere near this and yet my kids walk

1:08:34 ↗ to this park they walk without me

1:08:36 ↗ they're regularly it's on their path to

1:08:38 ↗ go revisiting other people they know I

1:08:41 ↗ guess it's dangerous I feel like there

1:08:43 ↗ are sidewalks

1:08:44 ↗ um but certainly one of the reasons when

1:08:46 ↗ I first discovered the park I found it

1:08:47 ↗ on a Google map

1:08:49 ↗ and you know I was surprised it was

1:08:51 ↗ there to be honest because you can't see

1:08:52 ↗ it from anywhere and I went to go find

1:08:54 ↗ parking and found that a lot and so I

1:08:56 ↗ decided uh we should just walk from now

1:08:58 ↗ on that's kind of how we use it

1:09:01 ↗ um so just you know I'm another neighbor

1:09:02 ↗ I live quite I think it's probably half

1:09:05 ↗ a mile to walk there

1:09:06 ↗ um one of the things I really want to

1:09:07 ↗ make a comment on is I think I remember

1:09:09 ↗ somebody coming to the Parks Board and

1:09:11 ↗ commenting about this park being a more

1:09:13 ↗ Regional Trail connection between the

1:09:17 ↗ three different mountains as kind of a

1:09:19 ↗ note or a hub or make connect down to

1:09:22 ↗ power line Trails or something that gets

1:09:25 ↗ over to Cougar somehow

1:09:26 ↗ you might miss remembering that

1:09:30 ↗ no

1:09:31 ↗ um David kapler with uh Isabel Alps

1:09:34 ↗ Trails Club I think spoke to some of the

1:09:36 ↗ bigger connectivity opportunities up and

1:09:38 ↗ over squawk using the power lines some

1:09:41 ↗ of the the other Trail connections

1:09:44 ↗ planned near Tibbetts Valley Park

1:09:47 ↗ um and uh so yeah I don't know that I

1:09:50 ↗ would categorize it a hub but there are

1:09:52 ↗ Trail connection opportunities as we

1:09:55 ↗ start looking at squawk and and trails

1:09:57 ↗ up and over squawk not this park though

1:09:59 ↗ not this okay this park could be a

1:10:03 ↗ sort of pearl on that necklace right but

1:10:07 ↗ not a

1:10:08 ↗ it wouldn't be a Trailhead or you know

1:10:10 ↗ anything that would require those kind

1:10:12 ↗ of

1:10:13 ↗ facilities okay because again it is a

1:10:16 ↗ walk-in Park yeah I just thought that

1:10:17 ↗ was really interesting when he said it

1:10:19 ↗ and also you know just before shut up

1:10:22 ↗ here Tim to your point

1:10:25 ↗ um

1:10:26 ↗ you know

1:10:27 ↗ it it's not always awesome to have

1:10:30 ↗ people in your space when you don't want

1:10:31 ↗ them there but how much is too much

1:10:33 ↗ um yeah I mean I share my cul-de-sac

1:10:35 ↗ with a bunch of folks and we got cars

1:10:37 ↗ coming in all days and I don't say

1:10:39 ↗ anything to them because I figured

1:10:40 ↗ they'll be there until they want to

1:10:41 ↗ leave and then they'll go like so

1:10:43 ↗ I just want I really appreciate the

1:10:46 ↗ discussion Tim and Marlene and Nicholas

1:10:49 ↗ as well you know this is

1:10:52 ↗ a neighborhood park like this is a real

1:10:54 ↗ Balancing Act and and I I hope what

1:10:56 ↗ we're demonstrating and into whatever

1:10:58 ↗ degree we're moving into the next phase

1:11:02 ↗ uh we really are trying to respect and

1:11:06 ↗ understand and and acknowledge this is a

1:11:09 ↗ walk-in Park and so as we think of scale

1:11:12 ↗ of a scale of play and scale of

1:11:15 ↗ amenities this is really of a scale that

1:11:17 ↗ is not meant to be a city destination

1:11:19 ↗ it's not meant to be a community park

1:11:22 ↗ it's really meant to be of a a play

1:11:24 ↗ scale that really supports the the

1:11:28 ↗ neighborhoods that surround that that

1:11:31 ↗ Park and really you know with that 40

1:11:33 ↗ acres there are a lot of different

1:11:34 ↗ neighborhoods that are within walking

1:11:36 ↗ distance

1:11:38 ↗ um of that space so we're really trying

1:11:40 ↗ to find that sweet spot of

1:11:42 ↗ of really hearing and respecting both of

1:11:45 ↗ those really important perspectives I

1:11:47 ↗ think it shows in that a year ago they

1:11:51 ↗ were more 50 50. and for us to get to 75

1:11:54 ↗ 25 kind of the whole other group or

1:11:57 ↗ something like that that's big

1:11:59 ↗ Improvement and I'm quite impressed that

1:12:01 ↗ we have that really you have balanced it

1:12:04 ↗ so that so well that many people are

1:12:07 ↗ agreeing trying to find that consensus

1:12:09 ↗ yeah Chris did you have a kind of

1:12:11 ↗ question

1:12:14 ↗ yeah thank you

1:12:17 ↗ um I was just thinking it might be good

1:12:20 ↗ Jennifer or Jeff if you could right just

1:12:24 ↗ a quick summary

1:12:26 ↗ uh the status of existing trails that

1:12:30 ↗ enter the park

1:12:32 ↗ um

1:12:33 ↗ connect to it and how many of those are

1:12:36 ↗ official or you know formal and is there

1:12:40 ↗ any part of the plan either now or in

1:12:42 ↗ the future to formalize what might be

1:12:46 ↗ informal uh part of it is to

1:12:50 ↗ maintain its accessibility to the people

1:12:52 ↗ that live immediately around it who use

1:12:54 ↗ it the most

1:12:55 ↗ uh but also to disperse some of the load

1:12:58 ↗ um you know of people that might drive

1:13:00 ↗ to visit or walk or whatever

1:13:03 ↗ um and I know that just from where I

1:13:05 ↗ live on squawk Mountain just a little

1:13:06 ↗ further up we have access

1:13:12 ↗ and we get people that come in park and

1:13:15 ↗ most of the time almost all the time

1:13:17 ↗ it's never been a problem but I also

1:13:20 ↗ know that understand the sentiment of

1:13:23 ↗ you know who are these people that

1:13:25 ↗ aren't normal to my neighborhood parking

1:13:26 ↗ here and what are the you know are they

1:13:28 ↗ up to no good are they uh they're just

1:13:30 ↗ putting into the trails that I like to

1:13:31 ↗ enjoy so I guess maybe a little info

1:13:33 ↗ about the trails uh specific to this

1:13:36 ↗ area

1:13:37 ↗ um would be great

1:13:39 ↗ thank you no I appreciate that that

1:13:41 ↗ question Chris and it it I guess teased

1:13:44 ↗ up what I was going to say in the

1:13:45 ↗ director's report under the the budget

1:13:46 ↗ so as it those of you that are budget

1:13:49 ↗ wonks and love diving into you know 60

1:13:51 ↗ page proposed budgets um I got a cheat

1:13:54 ↗ sheet for you so one of the capital

1:13:56 ↗ projects on page 74

1:13:59 ↗ um is called the hillside Park loop

1:14:02 ↗ trail and so we do know

1:14:05 ↗ um there are a number of informal

1:14:08 ↗ wherever some of those Street ends on

1:14:12 ↗ the south side of the park there have

1:14:15 ↗ been sort of makeshift Trail connections

1:14:17 ↗ neighborhood connections that have been

1:14:18 ↗ made uh you might recall a couple months

1:14:21 ↗ ago we recently made a pretty strategic

1:14:24 ↗ purchase of one and a half acres on the

1:14:27 ↗ south

1:14:29 ↗ east corner of Hillside Park uh that

1:14:33 ↗ creates another opportunity for a Spur

1:14:35 ↗ Trail Connection in our partners at

1:14:38 ↗ Public Works just completed a sewer line

1:14:41 ↗ or a water line I'm not sure which of

1:14:43 ↗ the two lines one of the two lines

1:14:45 ↗ um sort of on the on the eastern and the

1:14:48 ↗ lower Hill of Hillside Park so all this

1:14:51 ↗ to say is we've seen all this happening

1:14:53 ↗ and made some of these Acquisitions what

1:14:55 ↗ we're proposing with that that project

1:14:57 ↗ is to finally create formalize a loop

1:15:00 ↗ trail around the entire park and really

1:15:03 ↗ allow that loop trail to become that

1:15:06 ↗ connection and imagine the loop with a

1:15:09 ↗ bunch of spokes that come off of it so

1:15:11 ↗ there are ways to connect to that loop

1:15:13 ↗ on the southwest corner of the park or

1:15:16 ↗ and on the the actual you know Hillside

1:15:19 ↗ Park portion of the park and

1:15:21 ↗ solving this conflict with the cemetery

1:15:23 ↗ so that there's recreational use around

1:15:25 ↗ the upper Hillside Cemetery without

1:15:27 ↗ conflicting with the cemetery there

1:15:29 ↗ really really is

1:15:31 ↗ some opportunity that's beginning to

1:15:33 ↗ coalesce to formalize that loop trail

1:15:35 ↗ the request is for some design money in

1:15:38 ↗ 23 and then some construction money in

1:15:41 ↗ 24. so a way to sort of take that work

1:15:45 ↗ and I thought and align it with with

1:15:47 ↗ this project hopefully support some of

1:15:50 ↗ that some of that neighborhood

1:15:52 ↗ connectivity around around the 40 acres

1:15:57 ↗ which would make it easier for walking

1:15:58 ↗ exactly so really supporting supporting

1:16:01 ↗ that idea of further that walking into

1:16:04 ↗ this recreational space

1:16:06 ↗ yeah just just one final comment on the

1:16:09 ↗ parking so I don't live on squawk

1:16:10 ↗ mountains

1:16:12 ↗ so you're gonna drive to this park

1:16:16 ↗ ing

1:16:18 ↗ and I live in cougar will think oh

1:16:21 ↗ there's 10 spaces I will have parking

1:16:23 ↗ there so I'm gonna go there so you might

1:16:25 ↗ invite even more people to come to your

1:16:27 ↗ community by building parking in there

1:16:29 ↗ so just a comment on that versus walk-in

1:16:31 ↗ yeah yeah

1:16:35 ↗ but I would say I think as a Park Board

1:16:37 ↗ you know I think one of our goals is to

1:16:38 ↗ get more people outside in using Parts

1:16:40 ↗ sure so I also don't want to be like oh

1:16:42 ↗ let's try not to make people use a part

1:16:44 ↗ that's great like we don't want to spend

1:16:45 ↗ nine hundred thousand dollars to a whole

1:16:47 ↗ bunch of people not use the park right

1:16:48 ↗ like that's not our goal right so I

1:16:50 ↗ think to your point like yes it is

1:16:53 ↗ definitely used by The Neighborhood

1:16:54 ↗ mostly but I also don't think we want to

1:16:56 ↗ be exclusionary I mean that's a

1:16:58 ↗ beautiful Park for If you haven't been

1:16:59 ↗ there you feel like you're in the woods

1:17:00 ↗ but there's a beautiful like

1:17:03 ↗ field to to play at it's really unique

1:17:05 ↗ and beautiful and I think protecting

1:17:07 ↗ that character while allowing more

1:17:09 ↗ people to use it in a way that is

1:17:12 ↗ thoughtful to the neighborhood I think

1:17:14 ↗ is is what we're trying to achieve I've

1:17:16 ↗ never discussed a gondola yeah

1:17:22 ↗ about how this whole process actually

1:17:26 ↗ initiated because I'm not sure when in

1:17:30 ↗ the very beginning

1:17:32 ↗ did the neighborhood come to the city

1:17:34 ↗ and say we want play equipment in or did

1:17:36 ↗ the city come to the neighborhood say do

1:17:38 ↗ you want play equipment put in

1:17:41 ↗ I don't know the answer to that

1:17:43 ↗ so it sounds like there was engagement

1:17:45 ↗ this predates me but in 2013 2014 there

1:17:49 ↗ were neighborhood conversations about

1:17:50 ↗ what to do with Hillside park there were

1:17:52 ↗ a number of

1:17:53 ↗ requests by The Neighborhood Trail

1:17:56 ↗ improvements

1:17:58 ↗ field drainage some of the vegetation

1:18:01 ↗ clearing that as well as plague this

1:18:04 ↗ idea that hey we you know all these all

1:18:07 ↗ these new parts that are being built

1:18:08 ↗ over at Israel Highlands and other

1:18:10 ↗ places in town have a play area this

1:18:12 ↗ park doesn't

1:18:14 ↗ um I I know even as I look at the notes

1:18:17 ↗ from those meetings that

1:18:19 ↗ created a little bit of neighborhood

1:18:21 ↗ tension as some residents near that Park

1:18:24 ↗ really wanted a place for their kids to

1:18:26 ↗ play and others said absolutely not and

1:18:30 ↗ so the origin of

1:18:32 ↗ of of this conversation this project was

1:18:35 ↗ really born out of that work uh City

1:18:37 ↗ Council Members

1:18:39 ↗ um some who live on squawk Mountain

1:18:40 ↗ hearing and being aware of that project

1:18:42 ↗ really saw this as a priority uh to yeah

1:18:46 ↗ how to incorporate the appropriate scale

1:18:49 ↗ of play into this neighborhood park like

1:18:52 ↗ is provided for other other parts of his

1:18:56 ↗ support

1:18:57 ↗ okay thank you and you know I just for

1:19:00 ↗ the record I just think we need to

1:19:01 ↗ remember that kids have been planted

1:19:03 ↗ that park for Generations uh and

1:19:06 ↗ supposed to say incorporating play we're

1:19:08 ↗ talking about putting in designated

1:19:10 ↗ playground equipment the the woods and

1:19:12 ↗ the rocks and the fields have been

1:19:15 ↗ used for play for Generations but of

1:19:18 ↗ course of course absolutely

1:19:22 ↗ Danielle did you have a comment question

1:19:26 ↗ um I've been on the Park Court since

1:19:27 ↗ probably

1:19:29 ↗ 2000 uh five maybe and this is the third

1:19:32 ↗ or fourth time that we've talked about

1:19:34 ↗ this so it's come up a number of times

1:19:36 ↗ over the years

1:19:38 ↗ um

1:19:39 ↗ and and from the community

1:19:41 ↗ yeah

1:19:42 ↗ [Music]

1:19:45 ↗ when you say this Danielle this being

1:19:48 ↗ improving the hillside Park amenities

1:19:51 ↗ yeah yeah Park amenities getting

1:19:54 ↗ you know play you know

1:19:57 ↗ um

1:19:58 ↗ you know

1:19:59 ↗ yeah improve improving the park and um

1:20:03 ↗ in the same way that we have made other

1:20:05 ↗ improvements to other neighborhood and

1:20:07 ↗ Community Parks over the years so and

1:20:10 ↗ you know we get to a point we've gotten

1:20:13 ↗ to a point where you know people just

1:20:15 ↗ kind of get into a stalemate and then

1:20:17 ↗ nothing happens so

1:20:19 ↗ um

1:20:20 ↗ you know yes people have played in there

1:20:22 ↗ for generations and years but there's

1:20:25 ↗ also been a desire over the years

1:20:28 ↗ um

1:20:29 ↗ far back as 2005 at least um to do

1:20:32 ↗ something about it

1:20:34 ↗ it'll be their kids

1:20:40 ↗ all good points wow

1:20:46 ↗ um so

1:20:47 ↗ um are we prepared to make a decision as

1:20:50 ↗ a parts board with regards to

1:20:53 ↗ um I guess moving forward with this uh

1:20:56 ↗ concept design

1:20:58 ↗ I would like to make a motion to move

1:21:00 ↗ forward with the concept designs as

1:21:03 ↗ presented by the park

1:21:06 ↗ one second okay so I guess we'll take a

1:21:10 ↗ boat to uh everybody who's interested in

1:21:15 ↗ um having this concept design be

1:21:17 ↗ proposed to raise your hand

1:21:19 ↗ we can invite discussion what's up

1:21:31 ↗ taking a moment for discussion and also

1:21:34 ↗ getting Clarity on who's voting report

1:21:36 ↗ yeah okay okay

1:21:40 ↗ motions on the table open it up for

1:21:42 ↗ discussion okay yeah any further

1:21:44 ↗ discussion

1:21:45 ↗ do uh the motion

1:21:52 ↗ [Music]

1:21:55 ↗ can I add one one thought just through

1:21:57 ↗ the motion friendly Amendment suggestion

1:22:00 ↗ knowing again this is conceptual design

1:22:03 ↗ but if you are supporting this

1:22:05 ↗ conceptual design maybe in the motion

1:22:07 ↗ understanding that it's moving forward

1:22:09 ↗ into

1:22:11 ↗ design and permitting it's not you're

1:22:13 ↗ not you're not taking an action tonight

1:22:15 ↗ that's going to construct this

1:22:17 ↗ just

1:22:18 ↗ as a as a point of clarity do I need to

1:22:22 ↗ repurpose the notion

1:22:25 ↗ suddenly

1:22:28 ↗ yeah okay

1:22:32 ↗ [Laughter]

1:22:37 ↗ okay

1:22:39 ↗ so I would propose a motion to move to

1:22:44 ↗ concept permitting is that what it is

1:22:46 ↗ how about can I say yes how about um the

1:22:49 ↗ parkboard supports the concept design

1:22:52 ↗ and moving it Forward into design and

1:22:56 ↗ permitting

1:23:02 ↗ thank you

1:23:04 ↗ more eloquently than me for sure thank

1:23:06 ↗ you

1:23:09 ↗ okay

1:23:12 ↗ and another second all right

1:23:15 ↗ and uh any further discussion with the

1:23:18 ↗ rephrasing

1:23:21 ↗ Patricia given we have people here and

1:23:24 ↗ almost how would you suggest taking a is

1:23:28 ↗ it a show of hands or so I um and I'd

1:23:31 ↗ like to confirm I have this right I

1:23:33 ↗ believe is Nicholas

1:23:45 ↗ Andrew e okay so that means we have one

1:23:48 ↗ regular member who's not present so we

1:23:52 ↗ will need one alternate to vote

1:23:55 ↗ we have three alternates present so

1:23:58 ↗ um there isn't a precise process for

1:24:01 ↗ determining which of you we could

1:24:03 ↗ default to the person in the room

1:24:05 ↗ could be one approach

1:24:08 ↗ um

1:24:09 ↗ which would be Andrew is that right

1:24:12 ↗ that's correct okay so I might suggest

1:24:15 ↗ suggest that is one um as one option and

1:24:19 ↗ then it might it might be nice to do to

1:24:21 ↗ call everyone's names just because we

1:24:23 ↗ had our mixed attendance sure okay

1:24:27 ↗ let me know if you want me to help with

1:24:29 ↗ that all right I can call call The

1:24:31 ↗ Neighbors okay so um no further

1:24:34 ↗ discussion with regards to that I'll

1:24:36 ↗ move forward with picking the boat so

1:24:38 ↗ when I call your name

1:24:40 ↗ um please just say uh whether you are in

1:24:43 ↗ in favor of of the uh proposed motion or

1:24:48 ↗ against

1:24:50 ↗ uh Chris

1:24:53 ↗ I'm in favor of it

1:24:55 ↗ okay Marlene in paper okay uh I'm in

1:24:59 ↗ favor

1:25:00 ↗ um Andrew yes okay David yep all right

1:25:04 ↗ Nicholas support

1:25:06 ↗ okay Brenda yes all right Katie

1:25:10 ↗ in favor

1:25:12 ↗ okay

1:25:13 ↗ [Music]

1:25:16 ↗ I'm against it

1:25:18 ↗ all right okay and

1:25:21 ↗ um Rider Danielle is alternates do you

1:25:25 ↗ think about Alternatives

1:25:28 ↗ we're Andrew I think yeah isn't it in

1:25:32 ↗ the room yeah

1:25:34 ↗ yeah okay okay so

1:25:39 ↗ um all right so I'm sorry chair can I

1:25:41 ↗ confirm so did David vote yeah yes yes

1:25:45 ↗ and then Andrew Myers yes they are yes

1:25:49 ↗ as well okay so just for the record I

1:25:52 ↗ that was eight yes is one no eight to

1:25:54 ↗ one yeah it's an ocean

1:25:57 ↗ that sounds good

1:25:59 ↗ thank you everybody for the discussion

1:26:03 ↗ um again as as this passes this gate and

1:26:06 ↗ now moves into design permitting there

1:26:08 ↗ will be a lot of design work that's

1:26:10 ↗ going to happen but as we get an

1:26:12 ↗ understanding of the permitting path

1:26:15 ↗ um as as Jen mentioned we are going to

1:26:17 ↗ now be entering permitting process with

1:26:20 ↗ Army Corps of Engineers with State

1:26:22 ↗ Department of ecology and with our own

1:26:24 ↗ permitting department so we've already

1:26:27 ↗ begun some of those conversations to

1:26:28 ↗ figure out what that that maze looks

1:26:30 ↗ like

1:26:31 ↗ we'll certainly keep you informed as we

1:26:34 ↗ get in a good idea of what that that

1:26:35 ↗ calendar looks like also making sure as

1:26:39 ↗ we get design details and understand

1:26:42 ↗ what those agencies prefer us to do

1:26:45 ↗ mitigation sites How We Do mitigation

1:26:48 ↗ making sure we keep you all informed but

1:26:51 ↗ we've made a really firm commitment to

1:26:53 ↗ keeping that neighborhood informed as as

1:26:56 ↗ though those details move forward part

1:26:58 ↗ of the city permitting process there is

1:27:01 ↗ a environmental meeting that will need

1:27:04 ↗ as the applicant as the developer will

1:27:07 ↗ have host an environmental meeting once

1:27:10 ↗ we really start to have all those those

1:27:11 ↗ details put together so one more work

1:27:14 ↗ ahead and at that meeting our consultant

1:27:16 ↗ teams are there to help answer any

1:27:18 ↗ technical questions or detailed elements

1:27:20 ↗ of that may arise

1:27:24 ↗ well I think Danielle had her hand up

1:27:26 ↗ and Danielle did you have a comment yes

1:27:30 ↗ just before we completely move on I just

1:27:32 ↗ want to and I kind of feel like a broken

1:27:34 ↗ record here but um just in respects to

1:27:37 ↗ what

1:27:38 ↗ Tim had um spoken about the surveys

1:27:42 ↗ um I would really really love it if

1:27:45 ↗ um surveys could be previewed by the

1:27:47 ↗ park board when they go out to the whole

1:27:50 ↗ Community because I feel like it's a

1:27:52 ↗ consistent theme over the years that um

1:27:54 ↗ when we get survey results back there

1:27:57 ↗ are questions that perhaps we would be

1:28:00 ↗ asking to help inspect our decisions or

1:28:04 ↗ like follow-up questions and whatnot so

1:28:07 ↗ if there's any way to sort of preview

1:28:09 ↗ those surveys I think it would be really

1:28:11 ↗ helpful for all of us in making our

1:28:14 ↗ decisions you know better informed and

1:28:16 ↗ easier to make

1:28:21 ↗ thank you thanks for that

1:28:24 ↗ all right uh so moving on we're a little

1:28:29 ↗ a little behind seven yes

1:28:35 ↗ this is another big topic so I will um

1:28:38 ↗ do my best hang on just one moment while

1:28:42 ↗ I share my screen

1:28:47 ↗ so this is the um

1:28:50 ↗ Community investment strategy

1:28:54 ↗ uh in your packet tonight oops I'm sorry

1:28:58 ↗ um

1:29:00 ↗ so as we had talked about last month

1:29:03 ↗ Council has asked us uh to

1:29:08 ↗ come to you to help

1:29:10 ↗ figure out some Criterion and provide

1:29:15 ↗ some rationale and feedback as to how we

1:29:17 ↗ might invest four million dollars of

1:29:19 ↗ arpa which is American Rescue Act

1:29:22 ↗ or American Rescue plan act uh dollars

1:29:27 ↗ into the park system

1:29:29 ↗ and so through that

1:29:32 ↗ um we're gonna city council will have

1:29:34 ↗ further discussions as part of the

1:29:36 ↗ budget process going on

1:29:39 ↗ and at our prior meetings we had talked

1:29:43 ↗ about the Criterion he was a board had

1:29:46 ↗ created an ad hoc committee

1:29:49 ↗ um that has been really active in

1:29:51 ↗ meeting over four times to help uh get

1:29:55 ↗ us to what we're going to be presenting

1:29:56 ↗ tonight

1:29:58 ↗ um but we ensure it ended up creating a

1:30:00 ↗ matrix with some of these Criterion and

1:30:03 ↗ really digging in on all the potential

1:30:04 ↗ projects

1:30:06 ↗ um you know the project level of

1:30:08 ↗ Readiness and critical areas

1:30:11 ↗ economic benefits Community Access what

1:30:14 ↗ are our connections to other parks

1:30:16 ↗ phasings and multiple other

1:30:18 ↗ considerations that we need to include

1:30:22 ↗ including providing year-round impactful

1:30:26 ↗ Park elements into our city system and I

1:30:30 ↗ thought a really good discussion not

1:30:32 ↗ only with ad hoc but the full Park board

1:30:33 ↗ at our at the meeting last month in

1:30:36 ↗ terms of the The Matrix right and

1:30:39 ↗ speaking of

1:30:40 ↗ uh here's a picture of that Matrix and

1:30:45 ↗ um

1:30:46 ↗ we are going to be um

1:30:49 ↗ this is a rolled up summary at the last

1:30:52 ↗ Park board meeting you would ask for a

1:30:53 ↗ few little uh tweaks to be made but this

1:30:56 ↗ is the rolled up the full exploded uh

1:30:58 ↗ Matrix is in your packet but this is a

1:31:01 ↗ rolled up Matrix of all the different

1:31:03 ↗ categories

1:31:04 ↗ um I mentioned as far as a Criterion and

1:31:07 ↗ using a green light yellow light red

1:31:11 ↗ light

1:31:12 ↗ um

1:31:13 ↗ scenario kind of what's green being easy

1:31:16 ↗ or readily achievable yellow and there's

1:31:19 ↗ some hurdles that we can still do uh you

1:31:22 ↗ see one kind of orange lighter orange

1:31:24 ↗ color in there under Issaquah Creek

1:31:25 ↗ Quarter that means a little more

1:31:27 ↗ complicated but not quite a full red and

1:31:30 ↗ then we have

1:31:32 ↗ um items that were red or very difficult

1:31:34 ↗ for us to achieve at this very point in

1:31:37 ↗ time

1:31:38 ↗ and so at the end of our last meeting we

1:31:41 ↗ really

1:31:42 ↗ decided to focus on three different

1:31:45 ↗ parks and that was the Veterans Memorial

1:31:48 ↗ Field which included the senior center

1:31:50 ↗ Depot Park and pedestrian Park as well

1:31:53 ↗ as the Issaquah Creek Corner

1:31:56 ↗ and Confluence Park

1:32:01 ↗ there's a bunch of comment there please

1:32:03 ↗ and this is just uh it's more

1:32:04 ↗ administrative yes if we're doing green

1:32:06 ↗ yellow red if we just put g y

1:32:10 ↗ and R maybe in the Matrix of your color

1:32:12 ↗ blind you can create suggestion yes

1:32:16 ↗ really good point you're right

1:32:20 ↗ um some of the additional considerations

1:32:22 ↗ um as discussed in the ad hoc committee

1:32:25 ↗ um as we started working on each of

1:32:27 ↗ these Park spaces is really what is the

1:32:30 ↗ visibility of the project you know is it

1:32:32 ↗ only serving a few user groups or is

1:32:35 ↗ this really a community based

1:32:38 ↗ um also really what is that level of

1:32:40 ↗ Impact versus level of effort

1:32:43 ↗ um is this project going to be have some

1:32:46 ↗ long-term economic benefit is it going

1:32:48 ↗ to stimulate the need for other projects

1:32:51 ↗ and really be that stimulus to help get

1:32:54 ↗ other projects built and funded

1:32:57 ↗ um as kind of a one thing leads to

1:32:58 ↗ another

1:33:00 ↗ um and then also that year-round use

1:33:04 ↗ so with that and we got together with

1:33:07 ↗ methune who is our consultant team

1:33:10 ↗ assisting us and we came up with some

1:33:14 ↗ narratives for each of the projects kind

1:33:17 ↗ of in that Matrix Criterion at the very

1:33:20 ↗ bottom you'll see in some of the early

1:33:22 ↗ work we had done some elements that

1:33:24 ↗ would potentially be in and out of each

1:33:27 ↗ of the park spaces included or not

1:33:29 ↗ included

1:33:30 ↗ um with work with the ad hoc committee

1:33:33 ↗ we were able to focus in on a few of

1:33:35 ↗ those elements to create concepts for

1:33:38 ↗ each of these Parks these are just first

1:33:41 ↗ blushes at what these could bring

1:33:45 ↗ um so first we're going to talk about

1:33:47 ↗ Confluence Park and I am just going to

1:33:49 ↗ read the summary is

1:33:50 ↗ um

1:33:51 ↗ Confluence part the play area nearly

1:33:54 ↗ triples in size to accommodate a new

1:33:56 ↗ signature play structure and additional

1:33:58 ↗ elements expanding the existing Leaf

1:34:02 ↗ shape Motif with two new play areas a

1:34:04 ↗ natured inspired components the existing

1:34:07 ↗ play Boulders are relocated throughout

1:34:09 ↗ the play and new picnic areas for

1:34:11 ↗ climbing and seating

1:34:14 ↗ the eckhouse will be thoughtfully

1:34:15 ↗ reimagined into a picnic shelter as a

1:34:18 ↗ functional Park amenity history of the

1:34:20 ↗ site will be recognized and celebrated

1:34:23 ↗ in a variety of ways a new large picnic

1:34:26 ↗ area between the play zone and the

1:34:27 ↗ eckhouse is shown in leaf shapes with

1:34:31 ↗ specialty plate Paving and a new tree

1:34:33 ↗ additional improvements include new

1:34:35 ↗ edging along the main 12-foot gravel

1:34:38 ↗ paths lighting and the main neighborhood

1:34:40 ↗ connection from third Court to Rainier

1:34:44 ↗ all play areas are carefully designed to

1:34:46 ↗ avoid impacts to existing trees

1:34:50 ↗ and with that

1:34:52 ↗ um

1:34:53 ↗ we have two projects shown here this is

1:34:56 ↗ the Confluence Park at large there has

1:34:59 ↗ been several projects that have occurred

1:35:01 ↗ here over time

1:35:03 ↗ uh some of the remaining work is the

1:35:06 ↗ lighting which you see from the parking

1:35:08 ↗ area if you can see my little hand down

1:35:10 ↗ here from the parking area finishing

1:35:12 ↗ that up to the buffer where it is

1:35:14 ↗ already and then continuing it from this

1:35:16 ↗ trail out to Rainier

1:35:19 ↗ also uh the main 12-foot trails that are

1:35:24 ↗ in the park which are the main

1:35:25 ↗ thoroughfares or veins of access routes

1:35:28 ↗ those would receive

1:35:30 ↗ um some edging material in order to help

1:35:32 ↗ the gravel and Mowing and really give it

1:35:34 ↗ a little more cleaned up look in

1:35:36 ↗ definition

1:35:39 ↗ um

1:35:40 ↗ I'm going to go this this project right

1:35:42 ↗ now is around

1:35:44 ↗ collectively 2.8 to 3 million this next

1:35:48 ↗ slide really focuses in more on the play

1:35:50 ↗ zone

1:35:52 ↗ um there is future parking that is not

1:35:55 ↗ part of this project that is part of

1:35:56 ↗ Greater Street Transportation future

1:35:58 ↗ project but these areas highlighted are

1:36:02 ↗ the impact areas so this is a new

1:36:05 ↗ playground

1:36:06 ↗ that is there now that would remain

1:36:08 ↗ undisturbed for the existing playground

1:36:12 ↗ well it was new back in 2016 when we put

1:36:15 ↗ it in and it's still new to me but it's

1:36:18 ↗ there that's the one that sir that's

1:36:20 ↗ there right so um as we look at

1:36:23 ↗ reimagining that house it would much be

1:36:25 ↗ like in the existing picnic shelter out

1:36:28 ↗ there

1:36:29 ↗ um is memorable of the Anderson old barn

1:36:33 ↗ that was out there the roof line the

1:36:35 ↗ structures there's actually even some

1:36:36 ↗ old lights that are remnants

1:36:39 ↗ um of the barn that they were able to

1:36:40 ↗ salvage and reuse so we do much of the

1:36:43 ↗ same here you know maybe keep a face of

1:36:47 ↗ the eckhouse build out a roof and a

1:36:50 ↗ picnic area Salvage a few items and be

1:36:54 ↗ able to use this more as a gathering

1:36:56 ↗ space out in here we'd add in some

1:36:59 ↗ additional patio and seating areas

1:37:02 ↗ over on this area here and then as we

1:37:04 ↗ reach into the Play Zone we'd really

1:37:07 ↗ start creating some more active expanded

1:37:10 ↗ play areas in the leaf shape patterns

1:37:12 ↗ and enhance those spaces with

1:37:15 ↗ um

1:37:16 ↗ you know vegetation but also ensuring

1:37:19 ↗ that they're all handicapped accessible

1:37:22 ↗ for these areas

1:37:24 ↗ so that is somewhat of the refined

1:37:27 ↗ concept for confluence

1:37:31 ↗ we are going to go on to the dog park

1:37:34 ↗ um

1:37:35 ↗ much has been learned during the

1:37:38 ↗ community discussions about the dog park

1:37:40 ↗ and the recent pop-up dog park tours

1:37:42 ↗ given a variety of land constraints

1:37:45 ↗ within our existing Park plans

1:37:46 ↗ completing one off leash dog park area

1:37:49 ↗ is currently difficult

1:37:51 ↗ rather with this proposal

1:37:54 ↗ recognizes that the community is in need

1:37:56 ↗ for construction of multiple smaller dog

1:37:59 ↗ parks throughout our city system

1:38:01 ↗ the stock Park concept provides nearly

1:38:04 ↗ one third of an acre of dog park play

1:38:07 ↗ Space including a separate area for

1:38:09 ↗ smaller shy dogs the park is

1:38:11 ↗ conveniently located just south of Old

1:38:13 ↗ Town where it can utilize the existing

1:38:16 ↗ Community Center Parking an improved

1:38:18 ↗ gravel path connects users to a new car

1:38:21 ↗ wash station double gated paved entrance

1:38:24 ↗ a bench and drinking fountain or just

1:38:27 ↗ inside the main play area Synthetic Turf

1:38:30 ↗ is used as a surfacing

1:38:32 ↗ um

1:38:33 ↗ to promote uh Santa sanitary conditions

1:38:36 ↗ and as well as easy maintenance with dog

1:38:39 ↗ bark servicing at the southern end where

1:38:42 ↗ among the trees were to provide a little

1:38:45 ↗ more rustic Natural Area

1:38:48 ↗ um

1:38:50 ↗ so with that I say we had an extra water

1:38:52 ↗ in there

1:38:53 ↗ we're going to have water in the side

1:38:55 ↗ for the dogs

1:38:57 ↗ um

1:38:58 ↗ I'm surprising I didn't catch that uh so

1:39:00 ↗ here it is here this is the existing

1:39:02 ↗ Community Center Parking up there and

1:39:05 ↗ this is uh

1:39:07 ↗ for sure this is the Rainier trail that

1:39:10 ↗ comes down here and then right down at

1:39:12 ↗ the bottom here is where there's a trail

1:39:14 ↗ back up to second in the schools so the

1:39:17 ↗ dog park would be nestled in the space

1:39:19 ↗ it currently is if you haven't been

1:39:20 ↗ there right now it's just down the way

1:39:22 ↗ uh but we expand this a little bit right

1:39:25 ↗ now there's no

1:39:27 ↗ um Shire

1:39:28 ↗ small dog area we would include that and

1:39:31 ↗ have a separate fenced area for that and

1:39:34 ↗ then make a large open Improvement area

1:39:36 ↗ here using the artificial turf surface

1:39:39 ↗ and then bark out amongst the trees here

1:39:43 ↗ we'd have trash and recycling have a

1:39:46 ↗ service gate and a power wash station

1:39:48 ↗ over here

1:39:49 ↗ all of these improvements would run in

1:39:52 ↗ the range of 600 to 650 000

1:39:58 ↗ now this is the big one and bear with me

1:40:02 ↗ um as we go through this

1:40:04 ↗ uh Veterans Memorial Consolidated Park

1:40:07 ↗ located in the heart of Old Town

1:40:09 ↗ Issaquah along the Greek Corridor

1:40:11 ↗ renovation of the Consolidated Park

1:40:13 ↗ spaces Park spaces promote Civic

1:40:16 ↗ Gathering connection to Commerce and

1:40:18 ↗ begins to unify disjointed public spaces

1:40:21 ↗ specific features of each space are at

1:40:25 ↗ pedestrian Park the new pedestrian Park

1:40:28 ↗ welcomes visitors from the corner of

1:40:30 ↗ front and sunset with a pair of long

1:40:32 ↗ linear water features with integrated

1:40:35 ↗ seat walls that weave between the

1:40:37 ↗ existing trees drawing Park users toward

1:40:39 ↗ the interior of Depot and Veterans

1:40:41 ↗ Memorial Field

1:40:43 ↗ new brain Gardens capture and filter

1:40:45 ↗ storm water from adjacent buildings and

1:40:48 ↗ Canary lights crisscross the space to

1:40:50 ↗ create a Charming welcoming atmosphere

1:40:52 ↗ a deck is constructed around the large

1:40:55 ↗ existing trees on the northwest side to

1:40:57 ↗ protect the root Zone and to create an

1:41:00 ↗ elevated seating area

1:41:02 ↗ for Depot Park the area between

1:41:04 ↗ pedestrian Park to Depot Park is

1:41:07 ↗ enhanced with the elevated table top

1:41:10 ↗ Crossing so this is where the walkway

1:41:13 ↗ would cross the parking lot area that

1:41:15 ↗ would be a raised tabletop Crossing to

1:41:18 ↗ really provide pedestrians with the

1:41:21 ↗ right-of-way but also slow vehicles

1:41:23 ↗ through that connection

1:41:26 ↗ um

1:41:26 ↗ special papers visitors between the

1:41:29 ↗ large and signature tree there's an

1:41:32 ↗ elevated planter and a step seating area

1:41:35 ↗ with a summer water play area on the

1:41:38 ↗ right there's a lawn not that you can

1:41:41 ↗ see it now but you will in a minute uh

1:41:43 ↗ there's a lawn area some step seating

1:41:46 ↗ slopes with a covered Gathering space

1:41:48 ↗ with winter fire feature that doubles as

1:41:52 ↗ a stage for performances or events all

1:41:55 ↗ lights are hanging from above all lit

1:41:58 ↗ with hanging lights

1:42:00 ↗ uh to the north new rig Gardens buffer

1:42:02 ↗ outdoor dining seating areas with the

1:42:05 ↗ adjacent parking lot

1:42:07 ↗ and over at the senior center the new

1:42:09 ↗ Senior Center

1:42:11 ↗ um

1:42:12 ↗ entrance is open and expanded to

1:42:14 ↗ accommodate major East-West connection

1:42:16 ↗ between the Depot Park and Veterans

1:42:18 ↗ Memorial Field to the geese the new

1:42:21 ↗ Plaza offers a covered Gathering space

1:42:22 ↗ with flexible seating night lighting

1:42:25 ↗ areas to sit around existing trees a new

1:42:28 ↗ Shuffle ball or Bocce courts

1:42:30 ↗ existing Ada parking spaces and Memorial

1:42:36 ↗ flagpole will be relocated with the new

1:42:40 ↗ pads sorry I'm getting a little

1:42:41 ↗ tongue-tied tonight

1:42:49 ↗ so this is all of those elements

1:42:53 ↗ collectively

1:42:55 ↗ um as you will see this is far out of

1:42:58 ↗ our budget so what we did is we broke it

1:43:01 ↗ into three

1:43:03 ↗ um but you can see how all of these

1:43:05 ↗ spaces really start connecting when you

1:43:07 ↗ kind of step back holistically how one

1:43:10 ↗ project leads to another how we're

1:43:14 ↗ really from Depot really accenting that

1:43:18 ↗ connection over to Depot Park to

1:43:20 ↗ pedestrian Park and then also right now

1:43:22 ↗ the senior center there's a couple of

1:43:24 ↗ parking spots right here but by removing

1:43:27 ↗ those few parking spots and really

1:43:29 ↗ creating a nice strong axis really

1:43:32 ↗ promoting activity if you've ever walked

1:43:35 ↗ between there it's really

1:43:37 ↗ not unpleasant or intuitive experience

1:43:41 ↗ and so we're really trying to clean up

1:43:43 ↗ some of that clutter in there right now

1:43:46 ↗ the senior center

1:43:48 ↗ um has a little patio back here but it's

1:43:50 ↗ hidden behind walls um it's very private

1:43:53 ↗ you can't see over it into the play area

1:43:55 ↗ so how can we really start opening this

1:43:58 ↗ side of the senior center up provide

1:44:00 ↗ some outdoor recreational space for the

1:44:02 ↗ senior center as well as Gathering space

1:44:05 ↗ and really make them feel more part of

1:44:07 ↗ the park also as part of that coming off

1:44:10 ↗ this area here would be a trail

1:44:14 ↗ connection an additional Ada Trails

1:44:16 ↗ connection into the existing play area

1:44:19 ↗ so with that let's start drilling into

1:44:22 ↗ each space

1:44:23 ↗ a little bit more

1:44:25 ↗ so pedestrian Park

1:44:28 ↗ as we talked about this would be that

1:44:31 ↗ wood raised wood area with the existing

1:44:34 ↗ trees out in there being kept you can

1:44:37 ↗ see the crisscross of these yellow dots

1:44:40 ↗ here are Camp Nary lighting we'd have

1:44:43 ↗ two linear water features that would

1:44:45 ↗ kind of

1:44:46 ↗ draw you through the space but something

1:44:49 ↗ you could interact with

1:44:51 ↗ we'd have

1:44:52 ↗ um some planters in and around the space

1:44:55 ↗ and um transition and then a nice rain

1:44:59 ↗ garden with our storm water management

1:45:02 ↗ if I could add real quick yeah those

1:45:03 ↗ trees are really those really strong

1:45:05 ↗ Maples provide a really nice canopy and

1:45:09 ↗ have a really really nice feel how do we

1:45:12 ↗ accentuate that yeah this space right

1:45:15 ↗ now currently has a trellis right in the

1:45:17 ↗ middle of it and really is visually kind

1:45:20 ↗ of stops you within that space so by

1:45:24 ↗ opening this up and providing a

1:45:25 ↗ connection

1:45:27 ↗ um this project is about 1.8 to 2.1

1:45:30 ↗ million

1:45:32 ↗ there's a lot of wiggle room Within

1:45:34 ↗ These price pricings but this is our

1:45:37 ↗ best shot in the dark at the moment

1:45:42 ↗ so as we move over to Depot

1:45:45 ↗ um this has a little broader price range

1:45:47 ↗ of four to four point eight million

1:45:49 ↗ um

1:45:50 ↗ but this can also be trimmed down

1:45:52 ↗ relatively easily having worked with the

1:45:54 ↗ ad hoc committee we had looked at some

1:45:56 ↗ areas that we would rather focus on

1:45:59 ↗ um if not but we still feel this is

1:46:02 ↗ doable within the available funds

1:46:05 ↗ uh this area

1:46:07 ↗ will start at the top here this is the

1:46:10 ↗ depot Museum right now and the train

1:46:13 ↗ cars and really provides some outdoor

1:46:15 ↗ flexible seating in here providing some

1:46:17 ↗ rain water rain Gardens for storm water

1:46:22 ↗ over in this area as we come from

1:46:25 ↗ pedestrian part we

1:46:27 ↗ use this tabletop Crossing we'd elevate

1:46:30 ↗ it and really create that consistent

1:46:33 ↗ connection piece we didn't have a nice

1:46:36 ↗ Landmark tree here with some seating and

1:46:39 ↗ Gathering space around that and we'd

1:46:41 ↗ also have a seasonal water feature over

1:46:44 ↗ on this side

1:46:46 ↗ um

1:46:46 ↗ to be able to really draw people in

1:46:48 ↗ water is an automatic magnet uh for

1:46:51 ↗ space we'd also

1:46:54 ↗ um keeping the kind of the same roof

1:46:55 ↗ line and perspective of Depot and create

1:46:58 ↗ a new space out in here that would be

1:47:00 ↗ covered in maybe an elevated platform

1:47:02 ↗ that you could do for performances and

1:47:04 ↗ people could sit and gather out in there

1:47:06 ↗ and maybe even include a outdoor fire

1:47:09 ↗ pit that can be used they're very

1:47:12 ↗ popular these days and how can we you

1:47:14 ↗ know really enhance the downtown area

1:47:16 ↗ and when people get their dinner go out

1:47:18 ↗ and provide them a space to gather and

1:47:20 ↗ use

1:47:22 ↗ um the way the space is currently

1:47:24 ↗ doesn't function too terribly well we

1:47:27 ↗ keep the existing train signal and the

1:47:30 ↗ existing little building that's out

1:47:32 ↗ there is kind of that you know

1:47:35 ↗ honor of the what has been of years past

1:47:40 ↗ um and bring some of that history into

1:47:41 ↗ the space

1:47:44 ↗ and then on to the next one this is

1:47:46 ↗ really focusing in and around the senior

1:47:49 ↗ center

1:47:50 ↗ um

1:47:51 ↗ so on there it was as I mentioned in the

1:47:55 ↗ front here there's a couple of parking

1:47:58 ↗ spaces that come real close we would get

1:48:00 ↗ rid of those and enhance the connection

1:48:03 ↗ with concrete or a Paving path

1:48:06 ↗ but we do a rolled curve so there would

1:48:09 ↗ be a really soft transition into the

1:48:11 ↗ asphalt so this could be used as more of

1:48:13 ↗ a drop-off or a loading zone than what

1:48:16 ↗ it currently is but it would have

1:48:18 ↗ bollards for pedestrian access and

1:48:21 ↗ safety

1:48:23 ↗ we'd also um relocate the

1:48:30 ↗ sign the monument sign that's out there

1:48:32 ↗ and the flagpole

1:48:34 ↗ um we create new seating covered area

1:48:37 ↗ and provide some outdoor lighting uh

1:48:41 ↗ also we've got some activity courts over

1:48:43 ↗ here maybe Bocce maybe shuffleboard

1:48:45 ↗ whatever other activities might be out

1:48:50 ↗ there

1:48:54 ↗ what's the other one with the golf balls

1:48:57 ↗ that's it

1:49:01 ↗ um

1:49:02 ↗ so we keep some of the existing trees

1:49:05 ↗ out there you know a lot of the existing

1:49:08 ↗ trees and just really starting enhancing

1:49:11 ↗ that space

1:49:13 ↗ um

1:49:14 ↗ for Gathering uh as I mentioned we'd add

1:49:17 ↗ a new Ada route into the play area and

1:49:21 ↗ we'd relocate those Ada spaces just a

1:49:23 ↗ little closer

1:49:25 ↗ um

1:49:25 ↗ that they're currently up in here we

1:49:28 ↗ just moved them right here so there's

1:49:30 ↗ easier access into the building but

1:49:31 ↗ really open up the front of the senior

1:49:33 ↗ center and make it more welcoming not

1:49:35 ↗ only for the users on the inside but

1:49:37 ↗ also those in the park that may want to

1:49:39 ↗ interact

1:49:41 ↗ um yeah improve that relationship

1:49:43 ↗ between the senior center and the park

1:49:45 ↗ and really create some

1:49:46 ↗ multi-generational connection correct

1:49:51 ↗ um so in summary sorry yeah a hand just

1:49:56 ↗ was raised oh

1:49:59 ↗ thank you

1:50:01 ↗ Danielle

1:50:02 ↗ you see intent for these um these uh

1:50:05 ↗ like the shuffleboard and watchable and

1:50:07 ↗ stuff to be used just by members of the

1:50:09 ↗ senior center or is that intended to be

1:50:11 ↗ that anyone in the all ages the thought

1:50:15 ↗ is it would feel it's a park element

1:50:16 ↗ right

1:50:21 ↗ so anybody could use them

1:50:23 ↗ yeah yeah exactly

1:50:25 ↗ great thanks

1:50:30 ↗ um so when we looked at here's kind of a

1:50:34 ↗ summary of all of the different projects

1:50:36 ↗ and where they are cost wise I do want

1:50:39 ↗ to um

1:50:41 ↗ back up and just quickly mention as we

1:50:43 ↗ looked at these uh the ad hoc committee

1:50:46 ↗ wanted to see what we could do to get to

1:50:49 ↗ 4 million on some of these smaller

1:50:51 ↗ projects we do have some ideas as to how

1:50:56 ↗ that can happen

1:50:57 ↗ um leading into other spaces but it was

1:51:00 ↗ just too much for tonight's conversation

1:51:03 ↗ to bring that in so um but just wanted

1:51:06 ↗ to let you know ad hoc we did go through

1:51:08 ↗ that exercise and have good focus should

1:51:11 ↗ we pick any of these um that maybe

1:51:14 ↗ aren't at the 4 million uh Mark already

1:51:18 ↗ so collectively this is what we're

1:51:21 ↗ looking at as our summary of Confluence

1:51:24 ↗ part of the 2.8 to 3 million dog park

1:51:28 ↗ being 600

1:51:29 ↗ 000 to 650 pedestrian Park 1.8 to 2.1

1:51:35 ↗ the Depot Park

1:51:37 ↗ um

1:51:37 ↗ being 4 million to 4.8 million in the

1:51:40 ↗ senior center 2 to 2.3 million

1:51:44 ↗ just to kind of help Envision how some

1:51:48 ↗ of these spaces might look uh our

1:51:51 ↗ consultant team went to some very famous

1:51:53 ↗ and popular outdoor spaces to kind of

1:51:57 ↗ get the brain going and get you excited

1:51:59 ↗ about what could be you know it's it's

1:52:01 ↗ one thing to look at a colored sketch

1:52:04 ↗ but to be able to Envision how this

1:52:06 ↗ might fit

1:52:07 ↗ um in Depot Park or

1:52:10 ↗ um this is Vancouver Washington I'm not

1:52:13 ↗ going to spend a lot of time on these

1:52:14 ↗ they are in your packet but we'll just

1:52:16 ↗ quickly

1:52:17 ↗ browse through them at how water can be

1:52:19 ↗ interactive it can be for all ages it

1:52:22 ↗ can come in various shapes and levels of

1:52:25 ↗ activity within the space yeah so the

1:52:27 ↗ thought is not a spray park it's really

1:52:29 ↗ water you know in these Urban

1:52:31 ↗ Park settings how does how does the

1:52:34 ↗ water feature become interactive right

1:52:37 ↗ and so it's yeah but also draw you in

1:52:39 ↗ what make you want to stay make you want

1:52:42 ↗ to engage and be a new water element

1:52:45 ↗ that we don't have with in our Park

1:52:47 ↗ system or our public spaces really

1:52:51 ↗ yeah lots of lots of really creative

1:52:52 ↗ ways to do that

1:52:54 ↗ you know at night use in lighting a lot

1:52:57 ↗ of our spaces aren't very active at

1:52:59 ↗ night we're kind of a quiet town we kind

1:53:00 ↗ of roll up at night and

1:53:02 ↗ starting to change as the population is

1:53:05 ↗ starting to change and

1:53:07 ↗ um here's some examples of how some of

1:53:09 ↗ these spaces could really be

1:53:11 ↗ incentivized and activated in the night

1:53:14 ↗ hours and some of our different

1:53:16 ↗ locations but just you know a nice some

1:53:20 ↗ stairs can be for Gathering or you know

1:53:23 ↗ sitting around a tree

1:53:24 ↗ foreign

1:53:27 ↗ and then here's some nice um open Plaza

1:53:30 ↗ boardwalks areas that you really start

1:53:32 ↗ feeling those connections that draw you

1:53:34 ↗ in like oh yeah I can walk that way it's

1:53:36 ↗ going to take me somewhere it's not a

1:53:39 ↗ little sidewalk that you're following

1:53:40 ↗ it's this big expanse that says yeah I

1:53:43 ↗ want to go visit that or what's at the

1:53:45 ↗ other end right or you know I feel safe

1:53:48 ↗ walking through this space and how can

1:53:50 ↗ we really create that Civic Gathering

1:53:52 ↗ connection and provide opportunities to

1:53:56 ↗ engage differently with other residents

1:54:00 ↗ here's a nice little water feature up at

1:54:03 ↗ Whistler Jeff uh actually just took this

1:54:06 ↗ picture

1:54:07 ↗ this top one

1:54:09 ↗ photo credit

1:54:12 ↗ um but you can see how just a water

1:54:13 ↗ feature and built into an urban space

1:54:16 ↗ really changes the feel of that

1:54:18 ↗ environment

1:54:20 ↗ um but how small fire or big fire pits

1:54:24 ↗ you know can really start

1:54:26 ↗ um make people want to sit around gather

1:54:29 ↗ you know even though we're rainy a lot

1:54:31 ↗ of the year and we're dark a lot of the

1:54:33 ↗ air fire is one way to start providing

1:54:36 ↗ outdoor activity for people because we

1:54:38 ↗ get those nice days you still want to go

1:54:40 ↗ outside even in the wintertime

1:54:45 ↗ and here are some other you know just

1:54:47 ↗ some larger expanses of Paving different

1:54:50 ↗ textures

1:54:51 ↗ um colors and how they can look but you

1:54:53 ↗ can see how Canary lighting really

1:54:55 ↗ starts creating that activity level

1:54:58 ↗ um within a space like oh I can be here

1:55:01 ↗ I can hang out I can't linger I'm using

1:55:05 ↗ those and then fire

1:55:07 ↗ um you know with water comes back right

1:55:09 ↗ could you stop by Langley on your way up

1:55:11 ↗ [Laughter]

1:55:13 ↗ [Music]

1:55:15 ↗ yeah

1:55:17 ↗ no I'm the guy who goes on vacation and

1:55:19 ↗ my wife looks at me like you're working

1:55:21 ↗ right now aren't you

1:55:22 ↗ sorry yeah so just real quick how even

1:55:26 ↗ shapes just like a little seat wall can

1:55:28 ↗ provide you know opportunities for

1:55:31 ↗ recreation or engagement within a space

1:55:35 ↗ patterning

1:55:37 ↗ um some some ideas that we as a group

1:55:39 ↗ and the design team and the ad hoc were

1:55:42 ↗ starting to kind of filter through

1:55:45 ↗ um as they help pick some of these

1:55:47 ↗ precedent images as to what these spaces

1:55:50 ↗ could be like

1:55:52 ↗ um just another outdoor Gathering space

1:55:55 ↗ but how patterning of materials can

1:55:58 ↗ really create a neat

1:56:00 ↗ um welcoming atmosphere and then when we

1:56:03 ↗ look at playgrounds you know just some

1:56:04 ↗ of the options that resonated with the

1:56:06 ↗ ad hoc that doesn't these are just ideas

1:56:08 ↗ that are cool and unique

1:56:10 ↗ um that might be something different we

1:56:12 ↗ could provide in our Park system

1:56:17 ↗ um climbing rocks was also something we

1:56:20 ↗ had heard about and maybe how do we add

1:56:23 ↗ some more climbing features

1:56:25 ↗ um specifically bouldering yes

1:56:29 ↗ so Jen maybe as you're oh look at that

1:56:32 ↗ yeah

1:56:35 ↗ [Music]

1:56:36 ↗ um

1:56:37 ↗ so city council is seeking Park Board uh

1:56:39 ↗ feedback and rationales to help best to

1:56:42 ↗ invest that four million dollars Barbara

1:56:44 ↗ funding in this quad Park project so we

1:56:46 ↗ have two questions for you

1:56:48 ↗ um does the Matrix and the three Focus

1:56:51 ↗ area Concepts represented

1:56:54 ↗ um represent the park board rationale

1:56:56 ↗ for making this art from investment and

1:56:59 ↗ then also

1:57:01 ↗ is there a preference on one or more of

1:57:03 ↗ these projects as to help us to spend

1:57:06 ↗ the money

1:57:08 ↗ and if I can just I think as those

1:57:11 ↗ questions are asked just how this

1:57:14 ↗ is going to get framed right so Council

1:57:17 ↗ just started their budget process uh so

1:57:19 ↗ you might remember from that July

1:57:20 ↗ meeting

1:57:21 ↗ Council feedback to the mayor as she

1:57:24 ↗ proposed this 4 million was the council

1:57:26 ↗ would really like to consider this

1:57:28 ↗ during the budget process so uh you know

1:57:31 ↗ sort of based on discussion tonight and

1:57:32 ↗ I don't time check I don't know if

1:57:34 ↗ everyone's comfortable maybe staying an

1:57:36 ↗ extra 20 minutes or 30 minutes

1:57:39 ↗ um I would want to check that

1:57:41 ↗ [Music]

1:57:41 ↗ um

1:57:43 ↗ taking your feedback and your thoughts

1:57:45 ↗ and and really having a chance to sit

1:57:48 ↗ down with the mayor and then think

1:57:50 ↗ through probably sometime in October how

1:57:52 ↗ how this work gets

1:57:55 ↗ melded or gets gets put into Council

1:57:58 ↗ conversation and Council consideration

1:58:00 ↗ so

1:58:02 ↗ um before we open it up I want to give

1:58:04 ↗ the ad

1:58:06 ↗ a chance to speak to anything that I may

1:58:09 ↗ have missed in your presenting all of

1:58:12 ↗ your work and your ideas

1:58:14 ↗ um yeah kudos to the law firm of Andrew

1:58:16 ↗ Andrew

1:58:19 ↗ [Music]

1:58:22 ↗ yeah it's been a lot of great times so

1:58:25 ↗ thank you

1:58:26 ↗ I thought it was a great summer again

1:58:28 ↗ thanks I one of my big takeaways from it

1:58:31 ↗ was this idea of how much do we try to

1:58:36 ↗ separate it or pair things back or pair

1:58:38 ↗ things down or separate it into

1:58:39 ↗ different elements so that we could

1:58:41 ↗ create more of a a la carte options of

1:58:45 ↗ reaching that four million dollars but I

1:58:48 ↗ think it was Marlene made to get points

1:58:49 ↗ of

1:58:50 ↗ that route versus providing something

1:58:52 ↗ that's a little bit more polished and

1:58:55 ↗ complete looking so that we don't get in

1:58:57 ↗ a situation where we end up with the

1:58:59 ↗ halfway solution and then it never feels

1:59:02 ↗ quite done or never feels quite as good

1:59:04 ↗ as it

1:59:05 ↗ um might have been

1:59:07 ↗ and also the analysis paralysis that

1:59:10 ↗ comes with

1:59:11 ↗ extending like separating it into many

1:59:13 ↗ different decisions rather than

1:59:15 ↗ presenting you know a couple of really

1:59:17 ↗ strong options

1:59:19 ↗ um and keeping it at that higher level

1:59:21 ↗ the spectacle level versus

1:59:25 ↗ um you know taking it down a few notches

1:59:28 ↗ so thinking making the investment in one

1:59:31 ↗ place as opposed to spreading it out

1:59:33 ↗ yeah I just want to get too cute about

1:59:35 ↗ sequencing I don't know maybe it's my

1:59:37 ↗ own personal life once you start a

1:59:39 ↗ project if you try to piecemeal it too

1:59:41 ↗ much you live in your own remodel

1:59:43 ↗ forever and I just don't want us to do

1:59:45 ↗ that as a part like I think part of arpa

1:59:47 ↗ funding was to be impactful

1:59:49 ↗ and complete and so I just want to make

1:59:51 ↗ sure that I think we all have you know

1:59:53 ↗ the best intentions to say well if we

1:59:55 ↗ could do a little bit here and a little

1:59:56 ↗ bit here and maybe we can do that water

1:59:57 ↗ feature later

1:59:58 ↗ I don't know then later is 20 years how

2:00:01 ↗ far later right so I guess my you know

2:00:03 ↗ that was just something that I felt

2:00:05 ↗ strongly about that even if it's you

2:00:07 ↗ know

2:00:08 ↗ I'd rather do one thing really well than

2:00:10 ↗ try to do a whole bunch of things

2:00:13 ↗ partially

2:00:15 ↗ foreign

2:00:20 ↗ 30 minutes over

2:00:23 ↗ okay

2:00:25 ↗ it seems like we're all good on that I'm

2:00:28 ↗ not sure who had their hand up first

2:00:29 ↗ grad or Danielle

2:00:35 ↗ yeah

2:00:38 ↗ it was a competition

2:00:41 ↗ but I'm happy to go ahead and um yeah go

2:00:44 ↗ ahead I have a few comments and thoughts

2:00:47 ↗ um

2:00:48 ↗ one from the perspective I was a member

2:00:51 ↗ of the Capital Finance task force and

2:00:54 ↗ one of the things that we talked about

2:00:56 ↗ in terms of usage of arpa funds is to

2:00:58 ↗ have the greatest impact and so really

2:01:01 ↗ Falls in line with Marlene's comment

2:01:03 ↗ about consolidating those funds into one

2:01:07 ↗ project rather than Distributing out as

2:01:09 ↗ a as an A La Carte kind of thing

2:01:11 ↗ and then looking at the numbers

2:01:13 ↗ distribution really it really kind of

2:01:16 ↗ focuses on Depot Park in my opinion as

2:01:19 ↗ probably the best advocate

2:01:22 ↗ for that element you know I really like

2:01:25 ↗ the idea of Confluence Park finishing

2:01:27 ↗ out that phase uh but it does kind of

2:01:30 ↗ not use up all the money and it's also

2:01:33 ↗ not something I think that is the

2:01:36 ↗ greatest area of of impact that would be

2:01:40 ↗ done in Veterans Memorial

2:01:43 ↗ um

2:01:44 ↗ I think spending six hundred thousand

2:01:46 ↗ dollars on a half an acre dog park does

2:01:49 ↗ not make a lot of sense I would rather

2:01:51 ↗ us defer that investment to something

2:01:55 ↗ that would have a greater area

2:01:58 ↗ all right plus it's an A La Carte deal

2:02:00 ↗ so veterans uh really perform the best

2:02:04 ↗ in the Matrix although it's a little

2:02:06 ↗ marginal Confluence was close

2:02:10 ↗ um but I think that

2:02:12 ↗ um again I think that the depot makes

2:02:15 ↗ the best use of four million dollars all

2:02:17 ↗ in one area could have the most impact

2:02:20 ↗ and I also think I can't remember if it

2:02:23 ↗ was David in our last meeting I think it

2:02:26 ↗ creates an an energy towards something

2:02:29 ↗ further in the future and I think the

2:02:31 ↗ Veterans Memorial is likely when we get

2:02:34 ↗ down to the basics of Master planning I

2:02:38 ↗ think veterans will come down to

2:02:40 ↗ probably the top priority of the three

2:02:43 ↗ anchor Parts as being where it will go

2:02:46 ↗ next and I think creating a four million

2:02:50 ↗ dollar

2:02:51 ↗ effort at Depot Park or a combination of

2:02:55 ↗ pedestrians and Senior Center which also

2:02:57 ↗ the the combination of those two also

2:02:59 ↗ uses up four million dollars but I think

2:03:02 ↗ that Depot probably would be my my vote

2:03:05 ↗ even though I'm not voting here this

2:03:07 ↗ evening I think that's where I would be

2:03:09 ↗ an advocate of consolidating all that

2:03:11 ↗ money making the most impact possible on

2:03:13 ↗ Depot Park

2:03:15 ↗ uh creating some lighting some water

2:03:18 ↗ some fire in the heart of of

2:03:21 ↗ um of uh of Old Town would really would

2:03:26 ↗ really be a great addition to Old Town

2:03:30 ↗ and create an incentive uh for

2:03:33 ↗ everything else with Veteran Memorial

2:03:35 ↗ Park in the years to come so I've used

2:03:39 ↗ up probably more time than I needed but

2:03:41 ↗ that's my two cents thanks much Danielle

2:03:48 ↗ um yes I

2:03:51 ↗ along the same lines as Brad

2:03:54 ↗ um but I would I personally would

2:03:57 ↗ prioritize putting um doing Investments

2:04:01 ↗ that are bringing kind of new

2:04:05 ↗ um new amenities recreational amenities

2:04:06 ↗ to our park so

2:04:09 ↗ um I really like the idea of doing the

2:04:11 ↗ the shuffleboard Bocce

2:04:14 ↗ um features by the senior center I think

2:04:16 ↗ those are

2:04:17 ↗ um opportunities that the seniors will

2:04:19 ↗ take advantage of and

2:04:21 ↗ um those are really fun activities for

2:04:23 ↗ families too

2:04:24 ↗ um and it's not we don't have anything

2:04:26 ↗ else like that in our Park system I

2:04:28 ↗ think it would be really interesting to

2:04:30 ↗ get that in and see how how it's used

2:04:33 ↗ because it might be something that we

2:04:35 ↗ would want to incorporate in other Parks

2:04:39 ↗ um

2:04:40 ↗ and by that photo it doesn't take it's

2:04:43 ↗ not going to take up a huge footprint

2:04:44 ↗ and infringe on you know whatever future

2:04:47 ↗ expense or future

2:04:50 ↗ um plans are for Veterans Memorial Field

2:04:52 ↗ I also would um I think the dog park

2:04:55 ↗ we've been talking about it for a really

2:04:57 ↗ long time it sounds like that's a

2:04:59 ↗ location in the temporary dog parks

2:05:02 ↗ that's been popular

2:05:04 ↗ um so I I personally would do the

2:05:07 ↗ um and I'm also not voting so I'm just

2:05:09 ↗ thrown in my two cents like Brad

2:05:12 ↗ um but I would be encourage us to take

2:05:15 ↗ um to do the dog park and the

2:05:18 ↗ um the senior center improvements I

2:05:20 ↗ really would like us to do at amenities

2:05:23 ↗ rather than

2:05:25 ↗ I love the idea of The Pedestrian Park

2:05:27 ↗ entry but to me

2:05:31 ↗ that's making something look nice rather

2:05:34 ↗ than

2:05:36 ↗ um adding I'm adding something that we

2:05:39 ↗ don't have in a in an active Park

2:05:42 ↗ thank you

2:05:44 ↗ thanks Danielle Chris

2:05:49 ↗ thank you uh first off I think I was the

2:05:53 ↗ first person to use the praise a la

2:05:55 ↗ carte and I apologize uh what

2:05:59 ↗ what was intended by that and where I

2:06:02 ↗ was hoping we might be able to go uh is

2:06:06 ↗ I I saw that we probably weren't going

2:06:08 ↗ to get to some Perfect magic four

2:06:11 ↗ million dollar project that everyone

2:06:12 ↗ liked uh but I could see where we might

2:06:16 ↗ you know let's say we got to a 3.3 and

2:06:19 ↗ then decided to do the dog park for six

2:06:21 ↗ or something like that that's really

2:06:23 ↗ where I was uh leaning with that use of

2:06:26 ↗ that word so we can throw it away now

2:06:28 ↗ because it it doesn't carry the same

2:06:30 ↗ meaning for everybody

2:06:32 ↗ um foreign having walked through the

2:06:35 ↗ process and you know what Jennifer

2:06:38 ↗ presented the table with the Matrix with

2:06:40 ↗ the green

2:06:41 ↗ the red the yellow and the one orange uh

2:06:44 ↗ we walked through the you know the fully

2:06:46 ↗ expanded version of that and the one

2:06:49 ↗ thing that kept resonating with me was

2:06:51 ↗ the economic impact that's really

2:06:54 ↗ intended with this money and and also

2:06:58 ↗ the community impact and for that reason

2:07:01 ↗ I really leaned towards pedestrian Park

2:07:04 ↗ and

2:07:05 ↗ um what I this is where the that word

2:07:08 ↗ that I'm not going to use anymore that

2:07:10 ↗ phrase comes in is my thought was well

2:07:13 ↗ if

2:07:14 ↗ pedestrian Park was like a I forget what

2:07:16 ↗ number it is but at two point something

2:07:19 ↗ how far could we get into Depot

2:07:22 ↗ and and and get to 4 million and do it

2:07:27 ↗ properly like Marlene said not not a you

2:07:30 ↗ know halfway job that that leaves us

2:07:32 ↗ working living in our remodel but how

2:07:34 ↗ far could we get into there or could we

2:07:36 ↗ get in a portion of that across that uh

2:07:39 ↗ raised uh

2:07:44 ↗ pedestrian Crossing and then this is

2:07:47 ↗ where that other word is but maybe we

2:07:49 ↗ now consider putting in on the other

2:07:52 ↗ side of the senior center those

2:07:53 ↗ amenities that Danielle mentioned you

2:07:56 ↗ know an affinity for

2:07:58 ↗ and I the the one the main reason is you

2:08:01 ↗ know I love all these parks and I'd love

2:08:03 ↗ to see them all happen but we don't we

2:08:05 ↗ can't do them all and the the economic

2:08:08 ↗ and the community impact is the one

2:08:10 ↗ you're going to see from that you know

2:08:12 ↗ the most traveled intersection in our

2:08:13 ↗ city I think is you know right there at

2:08:16 ↗ the pedestrian Park and to make that

2:08:18 ↗ into something that really attracts a

2:08:21 ↗ lot of people and you know people to

2:08:23 ↗ comment you know huddle around the fire

2:08:25 ↗ in the winter or hang out and have their

2:08:28 ↗ ice cream or their yogurt in the summer

2:08:30 ↗ uh I think that's going to be the huge

2:08:32 ↗ impact in both economically and um from

2:08:36 ↗ a community perspective and then to get

2:08:38 ↗ back to the phrase that someone else

2:08:40 ↗ used uh have it be you know a catalyst

2:08:42 ↗ or you know an Energizer

2:08:46 ↗ um an accelerator for the rest of

2:08:48 ↗ Memorial Park and the different smaller

2:08:51 ↗ parts so those are my thoughts

2:08:54 ↗ thanks Chris

2:08:56 ↗ um Tim

2:09:00 ↗ thank you I just

2:09:02 ↗ if if I'm correct uh the original

2:09:06 ↗ request from Council was to make a big

2:09:09 ↗ impact in one place rather than

2:09:11 ↗ distribute over multiple places

2:09:14 ↗ and if that if I'm remembering that

2:09:17 ↗ correctly that I think that you know the

2:09:19 ↗ sentiment about basically pouring all

2:09:21 ↗ the water into one pot is the right way

2:09:23 ↗ to go because that that's what we were

2:09:25 ↗ told that was the division and the goal

2:09:27 ↗ of what to do with this money and so I

2:09:30 ↗ would be in favor of doing that and I am

2:09:34 ↗ not in favor of funding the dog park so

2:09:36 ↗ uh having said that several options line

2:09:40 ↗ up with that that I think would be

2:09:42 ↗ wonderful and I'm actually okay with any

2:09:44 ↗ of those because I think they'd all be

2:09:45 ↗ great

2:09:47 ↗ thanks man

2:09:51 ↗ anyone else any

2:09:54 ↗ accounts yeah I mean I just I will

2:09:57 ↗ second Chris and Tim in the senses for

2:10:00 ↗ me um you know it's a bit of an equity

2:10:02 ↗ play and it's also a bit of a strategic

2:10:04 ↗ Advantage for the city from an economic

2:10:06 ↗ perspective when you want to live

2:10:08 ↗ somewhere and you want to age in place

2:10:09 ↗ having a really robust Senior Center is

2:10:12 ↗ important both for yourself as you think

2:10:14 ↗ about yourself in the future but as you

2:10:16 ↗ want to slight your parents nearby

2:10:18 ↗ potentially

2:10:19 ↗ and I think our senior center is tired

2:10:22 ↗ I ran into our mayor on a walk down the

2:10:25 ↗ senior former mayor on a walk down there

2:10:27 ↗ and uh he the one thing he mentioned to

2:10:29 ↗ me was you know it'd really be nice to

2:10:31 ↗ be able to get outside and play some uh

2:10:33 ↗ actually you mentioned racquetball which

2:10:34 ↗ is apparently like a sport board in

2:10:36 ↗ Washington

2:10:38 ↗ yeah he mentioned that and I know that

2:10:40 ↗ you know our neighbors on the North

2:10:42 ↗ under the lake Redmond they're they have

2:10:44 ↗ a significant investment starting right

2:10:46 ↗ now

2:10:47 ↗ uh in their senior center for the same

2:10:48 ↗ reason as they want to attract families

2:10:50 ↗ that want to live you know

2:10:52 ↗ multi-generational in this area

2:10:54 ↗ so that that's my feeling and I think

2:10:56 ↗ that stretches through three parks that

2:10:57 ↗ we just saw our three phases apart and

2:11:00 ↗ Council doesn't have to stop it for a

2:11:01 ↗ million we just got to put the chip down

2:11:03 ↗ on the table excuse me c-h-i-t

2:11:08 ↗ and let let them follow with other money

2:11:11 ↗ so um you know and I love dogs as much

2:11:13 ↗ as I love you know people but at some

2:11:16 ↗ point that is just another fight for

2:11:18 ↗ another day another question for another

2:11:20 ↗ day thank you

2:11:24 ↗ okay so just a question for me I know

2:11:27 ↗ we've talked a lot about like water

2:11:28 ↗ features and things and I think someone

2:11:30 ↗ that brought up in a previous meeting

2:11:31 ↗ about maintenance costs and ongoing

2:11:33 ↗ total cost of ownership is that would

2:11:36 ↗ putting in all these water features

2:11:37 ↗ would kind of significantly go up you're

2:11:39 ↗ talking about pumps and lighting and

2:11:40 ↗ have have we done analysis around that

2:11:43 ↗ or yeah yeah so when we did all the

2:11:45 ↗ rough order of magnitude costs you know

2:11:48 ↗ we worked with the professional team and

2:11:50 ↗ we're like okay when we came up with

2:11:52 ↗ those numbers for each of those features

2:11:53 ↗ we were thinking of those things and

2:11:55 ↗ drainage and where's the nearest

2:11:57 ↗ electrical uh is there gas over here

2:12:00 ↗ things like that so we when we put those

2:12:04 ↗ numbers together to come up with those

2:12:05 ↗ round numbers we had some of that

2:12:08 ↗ General consideration so it's a great

2:12:10 ↗ question David yeah and there's some

2:12:11 ↗ really thoughtful ways to design water

2:12:14 ↗ features that are not they don't need

2:12:16 ↗ the massive pumps and the right

2:12:20 ↗ relatively simple don't need the

2:12:22 ↗ sanitation because it's not a spray park

2:12:24 ↗ right so we want to really think through

2:12:26 ↗ both design and how it looks and how

2:12:28 ↗ people will interact with it but you're

2:12:30 ↗ right what is what's the maintenance

2:12:32 ↗ responsibility look like should we move

2:12:34 ↗ forward with it

2:12:36 ↗ and some of those water features too can

2:12:39 ↗ shift and be depending upon what it is

2:12:42 ↗ can shift and be a unique winter element

2:12:46 ↗ as well too it's not running in the

2:12:48 ↗ winter so yeah either it's not running

2:12:50 ↗ or you can cover them and have them lit

2:12:54 ↗ or you know there's other things you

2:12:56 ↗ could do with some of those

2:13:01 ↗ uh I actually fully agree with what

2:13:03 ↗ you're saying I like it the downtown

2:13:05 ↗ it's keeping it there and keeping the

2:13:06 ↗ money there and you're right the dog

2:13:08 ↗ park is a good idea for another time uh

2:13:11 ↗ and then you just brought had a flash in

2:13:13 ↗ my head as you mentioned the water

2:13:14 ↗ feature

2:13:16 ↗ you're gonna have to control all of the

2:13:18 ↗ suds and the bubbles that will go in

2:13:19 ↗ every night so there's going to be like

2:13:21 ↗ that

2:13:22 ↗ yeah but hopefully when you get enough

2:13:25 ↗ people around us

2:13:29 ↗ public spaces well I but

2:13:33 ↗ great discussion

2:13:35 ↗ um looking at the time I I guess I just

2:13:38 ↗ wanna

2:13:39 ↗ bring us back to

2:13:41 ↗ that initial ask by Council in July

2:13:44 ↗ right and so you know I'm I'm certainly

2:13:47 ↗ hearing it's so appreciate the the

2:13:49 ↗ discussion you know the the

2:13:51 ↗ rationale and the work to

2:13:55 ↗ say all right how how and where could

2:13:58 ↗ this specific form remember this that's

2:14:00 ↗ not any four million it's four million

2:14:02 ↗ that has a shot clock on it that has

2:14:05 ↗ some federal requirements attached to it

2:14:06 ↗ where could we invest that I think these

2:14:09 ↗ three Focus areas that we discussed last

2:14:13 ↗ month that the ad hoc team and us as

2:14:15 ↗ staff really started to work on are all

2:14:17 ↗ pretty compelling

2:14:19 ↗ um I'm hearing some consensus around

2:14:21 ↗ veterans

2:14:24 ↗ um and and some combination thereof

2:14:27 ↗ within this veterans Consolidated Park

2:14:30 ↗ um you know again I think to present

2:14:33 ↗ back to council

2:14:35 ↗ won the ration the The Matrix that took

2:14:38 ↗ this from just anywhere to

2:14:41 ↗ here's how we really took this and these

2:14:45 ↗ primary Community parks of the creek

2:14:47 ↗ Corridor of veterans of Tibbetts and

2:14:50 ↗ Confluence that the council wanted us to

2:14:52 ↗ add there's some ideas we came up with

2:14:54 ↗ and we as a group

2:14:57 ↗ like all three but we feel like

2:15:00 ↗ you know a preference of sorts is is

2:15:03 ↗ Veterans is what I'm is what I'm hearing

2:15:06 ↗ um

2:15:07 ↗ um again I think there's going to be

2:15:09 ↗ more discussion I think the mayor is

2:15:11 ↗ going to really want some Community

2:15:12 ↗ discussion around this

2:15:14 ↗ um so

2:15:16 ↗ I I guess I I could put something

2:15:19 ↗ together as a motion that sort of speaks

2:15:21 ↗ to them but before I do that does that

2:15:24 ↗ encapsulate what I what I heard

2:15:28 ↗ Veterans Memorial seems to be the

2:15:30 ↗ consensus of the the three

2:15:38 ↗ I liked you that we aren't getting you

2:15:41 ↗ know as a team like all the way down to

2:15:44 ↗ pedestrian because I think also for the

2:15:46 ↗ council letting them also engage the

2:15:49 ↗ community or do some other like to

2:15:50 ↗ really sort of see from a heat map

2:15:52 ↗ perspective that once we get more

2:15:54 ↗ feedback to sort of hone into that area

2:15:56 ↗ but not be so prescriptive I think is

2:15:59 ↗ probably it to our benefit yeah and even

2:16:01 ↗ including dog park and Confluence as

2:16:04 ↗ like these are things that we considered

2:16:07 ↗ and could be potential in showing some

2:16:10 ↗ of that that thinking I think helps

2:16:12 ↗ round it out too right all three and

2:16:15 ↗ then showing sort of speaking to this

2:16:17 ↗ preference of Old Town veterans

2:16:20 ↗ I would agree Marley I guess I would I

2:16:23 ↗ would sit from a park planning

2:16:25 ↗ perspective in big picture and knowing

2:16:27 ↗ there's this conversation we started

2:16:29 ↗ before the pandemic about Veterans

2:16:32 ↗ Memorial and unifying to Front Street

2:16:34 ↗ and you know I I think though all three

2:16:37 ↗ of those areas had Depot Senior Center

2:16:41 ↗ and really the value all three and the

2:16:44 ↗ the compelling unification not now

2:16:47 ↗ suddenly there's a literally a public

2:16:49 ↗ Bridge a stroll

2:16:51 ↗ to the to the Memorial Field that's

2:16:54 ↗ always sort of felt like it's

2:16:56 ↗ you know back in the corner and so um

2:16:59 ↗ yeah really compelling I think to to

2:17:02 ↗ sort of present it all

2:17:07 ↗ see where it goes okay

2:17:11 ↗ so I I think we want to uh come to a

2:17:14 ↗ consensus as a Power Sport with regards

2:17:16 ↗ to uh

2:17:18 ↗ um presenting Veterans Memorial Park and

2:17:21 ↗ the other uh op three options

2:17:24 ↗ um that we sort of funneled it down to

2:17:28 ↗ and um

2:17:29 ↗ so would anybody like to propose a

2:17:33 ↗ a

2:17:34 ↗ motion

2:17:37 ↗ I jotted down some rules

2:17:41 ↗ language this is not I mean please I'm

2:17:44 ↗ presenting this to I'm not even I'm not

2:17:47 ↗ making the motion since I'm not a board

2:17:48 ↗ member but here's some language that you

2:17:51 ↗ can maybe start to play with we as the

2:17:53 ↗ park board

2:17:54 ↗ approve

2:17:56 ↗ we use the park board support the

2:17:58 ↗ rationale evaluation and determination

2:18:02 ↗ of these three Focus areas identified

2:18:05 ↗ for the four million dollar Community

2:18:07 ↗ investment strategy Park project

2:18:10 ↗ with our preferred area being

2:18:16 ↗ Veterans Memorial Consolidated Park

2:18:19 ↗ maybe leave it at that

2:18:23 ↗ so moving and if that

2:18:26 ↗ is you want to make the motion and then

2:18:29 ↗ I suppose we can I could play with

2:18:31 ↗ Fisher on

2:18:32 ↗ does that

2:18:35 ↗ yes

2:18:37 ↗ [Music]

2:18:38 ↗ clarified question when when you say the

2:18:41 ↗ three Focus areas is that the depot the

2:18:45 ↗ three Focus areas being the Confluence

2:18:47 ↗ Park Dog parking so it's sort of

2:18:51 ↗ starting with the Matrix that led to

2:18:53 ↗ these three

2:18:54 ↗ and maybe Focus areas isn't the right

2:18:57 ↗ three Park ideas three Park areas

2:19:00 ↗ [Music]

2:19:01 ↗ but then of those three the preferred is

2:19:05 ↗ Veterans Memorial

2:19:11 ↗ Daniel wants to make a motion yeah there

2:19:13 ↗ we go

2:19:15 ↗ up or do you have another question oh no

2:19:19 ↗ sorry

2:19:21 ↗ but just as a point of clarification I

2:19:24 ↗ mean Veterans Memorial Park is is more

2:19:27 ↗ of a I feel I mean like I think you

2:19:31 ↗ might want to

2:19:33 ↗ um

2:19:34 ↗ yeah yeah okay

2:19:38 ↗ right so again I I'm suggesting and I

2:19:42 ↗ think we called it this a couple of

2:19:44 ↗ times showed this process Veterans

2:19:46 ↗ Memorial Consolidated Park meaning

2:19:50 ↗ I mean we could do the list

2:19:52 ↗ Park Senior Center

2:19:55 ↗ um we could do that as well can we

2:19:57 ↗ Rebrand like like to separate from

2:19:59 ↗ Veterans Field because I know there's

2:20:00 ↗ issues there like are those the like Old

2:20:03 ↗ Town community spaces or like because

2:20:15 ↗ somebody read

2:20:17 ↗ the minutes and think that perhaps yeah

2:20:19 ↗ this is this doesn't include the field

2:20:21 ↗ that's a great that's a great point and

2:20:24 ↗ we can always you know Rebrand the space

2:20:26 ↗ at a future date to needed yeah

2:20:30 ↗ or rename that space

2:20:34 ↗ Old Town Road

2:20:40 ↗ all right

2:20:45 ↗ I don't know how to make emotion.com

2:20:49 ↗ yeah is there a second yeah

2:20:51 ↗ [Music]

2:20:53 ↗ so I just replaced Veterans Memorial

2:20:55 ↗ Field and to list the three distinct

2:20:58 ↗ pieces so someone can just say they'd

2:21:01 ↗ like to move that you move and also yeah

2:21:03 ↗ so so move I'll move that okay okay any

2:21:05 ↗ further discussion with regards to uh

2:21:08 ↗ the proposed motion

2:21:11 ↗ okay uh well in that case we will uh

2:21:15 ↗ proceed similar to uh the last one where

2:21:19 ↗ I call your name and just say whether

2:21:21 ↗ you approve the motion you're not uh

2:21:23 ↗ Chris

2:21:25 ↗ I support and approve it okay Marlene

2:21:28 ↗ support and I support uh Andrew yes in

2:21:32 ↗ favor okay David support Nicholas

2:21:35 ↗ support Brenda support Katie

2:21:39 ↗ support

2:21:45 ↗ all right

2:21:47 ↗ it's uh and Brad and Danielle thank you

2:21:49 ↗ for your uh your feedback as well

2:21:55 ↗ all right all right so here's unanimous

2:21:57 ↗ uh board

2:22:01 ↗ that's great again and and Jennifer

2:22:04 ↗ great work the methoon team great work

2:22:07 ↗ um Andrew Andrew Marlene Chris thank you

2:22:10 ↗ so much for your time and energy

2:22:12 ↗ um I will get it this is very helpful

2:22:14 ↗ I'll have a chance to talk to

2:22:15 ↗ Administration and get a sense of our

2:22:17 ↗ how to how do we carry this into the

2:22:20 ↗ budget process uh with Council so once I

2:22:22 ↗ I learned that I'd love to I'll reach

2:22:25 ↗ out to you Zach or to the ad hoc

2:22:27 ↗ committee to maybe help us sit down with

2:22:29 ↗ the mayor and sort of talk through the

2:22:32 ↗ process and how we want to present that

2:22:34 ↗ to council so more to come there thank

2:22:37 ↗ you

2:22:38 ↗ thanks all right uh so

2:22:42 ↗ um moving on to uh the chair and

2:22:45 ↗ director's reports uh so my report is

2:22:48 ↗ very salmon Centric

2:22:50 ↗ um

2:22:53 ↗ is the uh salmon days the first and

2:22:56 ↗ second uh there will also be a release

2:22:58 ↗ the company event

2:23:00 ↗ um that will be occurring I believe it's

2:23:03 ↗ at least

2:23:05 ↗ um then there's also a run with the

2:23:07 ↗ Kokanee event uh there's a five game 10k

2:23:09 ↗ race benefiting the company's salmon

2:23:12 ↗ recovery work uh that was on October

2:23:14 ↗ 15th

2:23:16 ↗ um and then also there is a some ego

2:23:18 ↗ action classes being hosted here in

2:23:21 ↗ Issaquah at the Depot Museum actually

2:23:25 ↗ um those start on October 19th and I

2:23:27 ↗ believe the first one is reducing your

2:23:29 ↗ waste and uh less toxicity in the

2:23:33 ↗ environment and I believe that's like uh

2:23:35 ↗ three separate classes that extend

2:23:36 ↗ through the fall also if you're

2:23:39 ↗ interested in that that is on the uh the

2:23:43 ↗ Isabella newsletter

2:23:47 ↗ that's all for me

2:23:48 ↗ that's cool director's report uh was

2:23:51 ↗ going to be long it's not long anymore

2:23:53 ↗ budget as I've said you've heard me say

2:23:55 ↗ it a couple times the 2023 2024 budget

2:23:57 ↗ has been presented to council we had the

2:23:59 ↗ first workshop with Council last night

2:24:01 ↗ there'll be multiples throughout October

2:24:05 ↗ um

2:24:05 ↗ if I sent you the link to the budget if

2:24:09 ↗ you want to take a look at parks and

2:24:11 ↗ Community Services our operations asks

2:24:13 ↗ or our Capital asks if you have any

2:24:15 ↗ questions please

2:24:16 ↗ throw them my way

2:24:19 ↗ um happy day happy to answer them but um

2:24:21 ↗ certainly appreciate a lot of support

2:24:23 ↗ from mayor Administration in terms of

2:24:26 ↗ what we're doing throughout the

2:24:28 ↗ throughout the department and look

2:24:30 ↗ forward to that discussion with Council

2:24:33 ↗ all right

2:24:34 ↗ [Music]

2:24:35 ↗ yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I have some

2:24:38 ↗ swag before you leave I said Trails map

2:24:41 ↗ 2.0 is out on the streets I've got some

2:24:44 ↗ copies for you fun little QR code on the

2:24:47 ↗ back so easily downloadable to your

2:24:49 ↗ phone for those that are super tech

2:24:52 ↗ savvy you can actually sync this to a

2:24:54 ↗ geolocation and use the trails map as

2:24:57 ↗ your Trump and through Trump and through

2:24:59 ↗ the Alps so

2:25:01 ↗ exciting I'll get those right now

2:25:04 ↗ thank you okay so uh meeting adjourned

2:25:09 ↗ good job thanks great thanks thanks

2:25:12 ↗ everybody thanks thank you

2:25:14 ↗ thank you thank you

2:25:17 ↗ thank you

2:25:20 ↗ thanks if you're interested they're

2:25:23 ↗ going down and pass it around yeah

2:25:31 ↗ this is our youth Advisory Board member

2:25:33 ↗ yeah

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