Park Board · Tuesday, September 26, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of June 26, 2023

packet pp.3–4

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 06-26-23 Park Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave June 26, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

Minutes of August 9, 2023

packet pp.5–12

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 08-09-23 Park Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 6:00 PM Community Center, 301 Rainier August 9, 2023 MINUTES Blvd. S. Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Park System Plan Update

Director · 40 min · Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services · packet pp.13–25

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

Park Plan Update SEPTEMBER 26TH | PARK BOARD Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

Rainier Trail Dog Park Update

Director · 20 min · Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services · packet pp.27–55

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

REGULAR BUSINESS b) Robin Spear, Park Planning and Development Manager Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

5. REPORTS

Chairperson's Report

packet pp.57–66

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Staff report:

REPORTS b) Ongoing Calendar – tentative and a working document Month Agenda Items Month Agenda Items January 23 • Title 18 Draft July 24- • TOUR and/or Board meeting at a • Recreation Update cancelled park? • 2023 Work Plan – Ad Hoc groups?

Director's Report

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0:05 ↗ um Marley Here Andrew e

0:10 ↗ and uh Ryan uh here

0:14 ↗ I'm here and David not to forget you

0:17 ↗ have presents

0:19 ↗ and then we've got Brad online I'm here

0:24 ↗ and I don't know if anybody has sent in

0:26 ↗ any messages about

0:29 ↗ excuse absences or maybe we catch up

0:31 ↗ with those later sure I know Zach is

0:34 ↗ excused okay

0:36 ↗ um

0:41 ↗ oh and Katie

0:43 ↗ excuse me did you just say Andrew also

0:46 ↗ before a minute ago no okay all right

0:50 ↗ um

0:52 ↗ and then uh

0:56 ↗ one moment

1:06 ↗ um

1:09 ↗ we have so we have a quorum uh using

1:12 ↗ having Ryan step in as an alternate and

1:15 ↗ then I guess the next thing is everybody

1:17 ↗ had a chance to review the minutes from

1:19 ↗ two months ago

1:22 ↗ oh

1:25 ↗ yeah

1:26 ↗ um any corrections or edits anyone wants

1:31 ↗ okay with no Corrections uh then we'll

1:34 ↗ I'll approve the minutes

1:37 ↗ and it looks like we have at least one

1:40 ↗ person here for public comment correct

1:42 ↗ yeah it is can I move that until after

1:45 ↗ the dog park presentation

1:48 ↗ um

1:56 ↗ okay then uh probably a good time to

2:00 ↗ um

2:02 ↗ have an introduction here I

2:05 ↗ I'm noting that Brenda is here and then

2:07 ↗ also we have a virtual guest

2:09 ↗ um just wanted to

2:12 ↗ uh would you like to make public

2:13 ↗ comments in any way

2:16 ↗ um you may do so or not

2:23 ↗ hi Steve can you hear us I can hear you

2:26 ↗ sorry I was I'm kind of multitasking

2:28 ↗ here from the conference room in the

2:29 ↗ library which is a good place to hang

2:31 ↗ out nice would you like to give audience

2:34 ↗ comment yes please

2:37 ↗ uh please introduce yourself and and go

2:40 ↗ right ahead try to keep into five

2:42 ↗ minutes please I don't know if we did

2:44 ↗ the minutes first I didn't want to cut

2:45 ↗ in ahead of time so oh yeah we just

2:48 ↗ finished that

2:49 ↗ okay so my name's Steve Pereira I've

2:52 ↗ lived in the old town area of Visa off

2:54 ↗ about the past 16 years uh first of all

2:57 ↗ several thoughts and I'll try to be very

2:58 ↗ brief in them so you can continue your

3:00 ↗ good work uh the first is thanks to each

3:03 ↗ of you I always like to say for serving

3:04 ↗ and giving back to this is quite the

3:06 ↗ place we live and love so thank you

3:08 ↗ assistant sir thank you to each of you

3:11 ↗ for serving uh the second is just a

3:14 ↗ thought I know that there's a

3:16 ↗ physical program where you can donate a

3:19 ↗ bench and have that put up I would like

3:21 ↗ to see your ask the idea of if it's

3:24 ↗ possible to donate a

3:26 ↗ uh

3:27 ↗ a place where you can secure your bike

3:30 ↗ or a bike rack type thing program within

3:33 ↗ this across so just throwing the

3:35 ↗ question out there for consideration

3:37 ↗ uh third question or issue was the dog

3:40 ↗ park I admit I've always been a strong

3:42 ↗ opponent of the dog parks I just don't

3:44 ↗ think it's the best to use it as a quart

3:45 ↗ dollars at this time

3:48 ↗ that said I still have concerns about

3:50 ↗ the

3:52 ↗ report door talks about

3:54 ↗ two

3:56 ↗ whether or not it's wild wildlife or

3:59 ↗ water water area I would think that I'd

4:02 ↗ like to push back on that I also would

4:03 ↗ like to hear some feedback from the

4:05 ↗ Park board on

4:08 ↗ the idea I've heard comments talked

4:10 ↗ about where maybe we Issaquah needs more

4:12 ↗ than one dog perk and this dog park

4:15 ↗ doesn't seem to meet the size definition

4:16 ↗ or size requirements why we're expanding

4:19 ↗ the scope to have multiple dog parks I'd

4:21 ↗ like to see here there's the first word

4:23 ↗ kind of pushed back on that idea of

4:25 ↗ having even just one let alone multiple

4:27 ↗ dog parks that seems to be not a good

4:29 ↗ use of limited dollars for care for pets

4:32 ↗ uh the last issue I wanted to talk about

4:35 ↗ in my fine monotone voice thanks for all

4:38 ↗ for your perseverance

4:40 ↗ was

4:42 ↗ the idea that I sent an email with the

4:45 ↗ editorial in this in the Seattle Times

4:47 ↗ from August 2023 about

4:50 ↗ uh what are called culturally modified

4:52 ↗ trees which are trees marked by

4:56 ↗ first people is including this um

4:58 ↗ Sammamish tribe uh I think that Issaquah

5:01 ↗ Parks has several issues that are worked

5:05 ↗ towards that one is the a Heritage tree

5:08 ↗ program which I would like to see

5:09 ↗ defined as a program that protects and

5:13 ↗ defines all trees not just that it

5:15 ↗ landmarks them but it has code language

5:18 ↗ that prevents their removal if they are

5:20 ↗ found

5:20 ↗ typing is Title 18 where it talks about

5:24 ↗ uh

5:26 ↗ have an enter code but I think we need

5:28 ↗ things beyond that I would like to see

5:30 ↗ the squad Parts board advocate for one

5:33 ↗ is what is the city's cipa or State

5:36 ↗ Environmental Protection Agency or act

5:39 ↗ for protecting trees what can is why do

5:43 ↗ the lobby for that change and

5:44 ↗ modification include closely modified

5:46 ↗ trees uh what can we do at the state

5:49 ↗ level and at the jurisdiction levels and

5:52 ↗ how do we put that into our own code

5:55 ↗ language so that a Heritage tree or a

5:59 ↗ culturally modified tree does not get

6:00 ↗ removed

6:02 ↗ I think that's beyond the park board the

6:04 ↗ scope of the title 18 so I'd like to see

6:06 ↗ the language that we work with other

6:07 ↗ bodies or this development commission

6:10 ↗ whether that's other staff groups

6:13 ↗ to advocate for those things and those

6:15 ↗ changes

6:17 ↗ [Music]

6:17 ↗ um

6:18 ↗ I think that kind of

6:21 ↗ so I've talked about the lobbying at the

6:23 ↗ state level and I think about a wider

6:25 ↗ scope of our own jurisdiction not just

6:26 ↗ the things that the park board is

6:28 ↗ looking in but I want to see how the

6:29 ↗ park board work

6:31 ↗ ties in with the environmental board

6:33 ↗ within the development commission within

6:34 ↗ the permanent planning policy commission

6:36 ↗ to better flesh out

6:38 ↗ and scope out this culturally modified

6:40 ↗ trees to make sure it's something that

6:42 ↗ we're taking full action I think that's

6:43 ↗ kind of in keeping with the existing

6:47 ↗ uh Heritage and tradition within things

6:50 ↗ that is Squad residents would already

6:52 ↗ support but I would like to see those as

6:53 ↗ defined work plan items and I don't

6:55 ↗ think those are currently fleshed out as

6:57 ↗ much as well as they should be

6:59 ↗ that concludes it for me again thank you

7:01 ↗ all for your time and your dedication

7:03 ↗ and your efforts

7:04 ↗ and I'll go back to mute

7:07 ↗ and I'll probably close my camera too

7:10 ↗ thank you

7:13 ↗ Andrew Myers here too

7:16 ↗ you do let's step in

7:20 ↗ okay well

7:22 ↗ um with that we're going to move into

7:25 ↗ regular business

7:26 ↗ and on the agenda the first item is the

7:29 ↗ park system Plan update oh and sorry I

7:33 ↗ want to do an introduction all right no

7:35 ↗ thank you I'll do a bit of both thank

7:37 ↗ you so much

7:39 ↗ um

7:39 ↗ so before jumping into the park Plan

7:42 ↗ update I want to take the opportunity to

7:43 ↗ introduce Robin Spears our new park

7:47 ↗ planning and development manager Robin

7:49 ↗ started September 1st

7:52 ↗ um boy hard to believe one month in

7:56 ↗ almost

7:57 ↗ um uh so fortunate Deborah Robin we had

8:00 ↗ a really strong

8:02 ↗ recruitment process through the summer

8:04 ↗ Robin comes with just a great as a

8:08 ↗ landscape architect both private and

8:10 ↗ public experience I spent some time

8:12 ↗ working in some other big cities down in

8:15 ↗ the California area as well as doing

8:18 ↗ some consultant landscape architect work

8:20 ↗ so seeing

8:21 ↗ sort of parks and city park system and

8:23 ↗ city park development both from the

8:25 ↗ private sort of perspective as well as

8:27 ↗ as the public perspective

8:30 ↗ so just thrilled to have Robin here I

8:33 ↗ don't know if you want to

8:34 ↗ say a few words and say hi or yeah

8:37 ↗ it's really exciting a year it's really

8:39 ↗ great time and knowing

8:41 ↗ our plans is in the system update

8:43 ↗ usually I am on the other side looking

8:46 ↗ at those interpreting those but to be

8:48 ↗ able to develop that with the community

8:49 ↗ I think is really special and it's a

8:52 ↗ great way to just jump in and get to

8:55 ↗ know ASAP get to know the community and

8:56 ↗ get to know the system

8:58 ↗ thank you so yeah exciting exciting to

9:01 ↗ have Robin here thank you for for

9:03 ↗ letting me give an introduction

9:04 ↗ um on another note we um have been

9:07 ↗ recruiting for the senior Park planner

9:09 ↗ position so the position that Jen Fink

9:11 ↗ held

9:13 ↗ um that position we have two candidate

9:16 ↗ interviews later this week uh two really

9:18 ↗ really strong candidates there so um

9:21 ↗ continue to progress and and staff

9:23 ↗ ourselves in a position ourselves to get

9:26 ↗ a lot of this uh um a lot of this work

9:29 ↗ uh really important work in the park

9:31 ↗ system

9:32 ↗ um done so exciting

9:35 ↗ so that Park system plan updates

9:38 ↗ um

9:39 ↗ you want to share our screen is

9:41 ↗ something thank you so much

9:44 ↗ oh

9:45 ↗ um you may recall

9:47 ↗ um

9:48 ↗ a number of you were here at the time

9:50 ↗ but in 2017 we did a big community

9:52 ↗ outreach effort that created

9:55 ↗ to the city's first sort of system-wide

9:59 ↗ Park plan

10:01 ↗ adopted in in 2018 as my copy it's a

10:05 ↗ little a little tethered but it's really

10:08 ↗ important work and we're asked by the

10:12 ↗ State Recreation conservation office in

10:15 ↗ order for us to be eligible for a wide

10:17 ↗ variety of Grants they ask and it's

10:19 ↗ really a best practice for the cities to

10:21 ↗ update those plans every six years so

10:24 ↗ here we are

10:26 ↗ 2023 we kicked off this effort in the

10:29 ↗ summer I think we had a chance to update

10:32 ↗ all of you we are working with a firm

10:34 ↗ design Workshop

10:36 ↗ they've done a lot of Park system plans

10:38 ↗ for some very large and small very

10:42 ↗ active Quality of Life Communities

10:45 ↗ from Vancouver BC to Salt Lake City to

10:49 ↗ Aspen Colorado and Boulder Colorado and

10:52 ↗ cities of many shapes and size is in

10:55 ↗ between that so we really feel like it's

10:58 ↗ a good fit we've done some focus group

11:00 ↗ conversations within the community

11:02 ↗ tonight we really want to have a chance

11:04 ↗ to start to dive in if you want to go to

11:06 ↗ the next slide Asante

11:10 ↗ um and really start uh doing some of the

11:12 ↗ the framework uh discussions with all of

11:15 ↗ you tonight we're not asking for any

11:16 ↗ action tonight

11:18 ↗ um but over the next couple of months uh

11:21 ↗ tonight focusing on Park classifications

11:24 ↗ um and then

11:26 ↗ um October and actually into November

11:28 ↗ focusing on the goals and policies uh

11:30 ↗ within the park system plan both of

11:32 ↗ these are really really important

11:33 ↗ efforts that start to create the

11:36 ↗ building blocks in the meantime we have

11:39 ↗ a some community outreach continued

11:41 ↗ community outreach and some survey work

11:43 ↗ that's going to be going on in October

11:45 ↗ that's going to help us get a sense of

11:49 ↗ really sort of the aspirational goals

11:51 ↗ that the community has much like the

11:54 ↗ this prior plan as we go through plan

11:57 ↗ development we will have a second public

12:00 ↗ Outreach

12:02 ↗ sometime later in the first quarter

12:04 ↗ second quarter of next year where we'll

12:06 ↗ really be getting into specific sort of

12:09 ↗ priorities project priorities

12:12 ↗ Etc after we do some of this on initial

12:14 ↗ work

12:16 ↗ all to say this this is really important

12:19 ↗ work and sometimes it can get lost why

12:21 ↗ why do a system plan does it really help

12:23 ↗ does is it just a document that sits on

12:25 ↗ a shelf

12:26 ↗ um I can tell you it it's not

12:29 ↗ um and even to the point when you look

12:31 ↗ at some of our conversations tonight the

12:33 ↗ projects that we're talking that have

12:35 ↗ been on our work plan

12:37 ↗ um

12:38 ↗ um the the arpa projects the arpa funded

12:40 ↗ projects that you know through a

12:42 ↗ pandemic the city got Federal funding we

12:45 ↗ were able to work as a board and staff

12:47 ↗ Council asked us to prioritize

12:49 ↗ opportunities those opportunities came

12:51 ↗ right out of the system plan and some of

12:53 ↗ the planning work that was going on a

12:56 ↗ lot of really really important work

12:57 ↗ around the importance of urban forestry

13:00 ↗ initiating the green Issaquah program

13:03 ↗ those were all operational priorities

13:06 ↗ that came out of out of this document

13:08 ↗ and so

13:09 ↗ um I just I I want to give those of you

13:11 ↗ that were here at the time some really

13:13 ↗ some real Applause and just recognize

13:16 ↗ that it's done well and really done in a

13:20 ↗ community-minded way this this work

13:22 ↗ helps really helps to to drive

13:24 ↗ priorities and drive work so with that

13:28 ↗ I'm going to hand it over to

13:31 ↗ um to Robin to talk through

13:33 ↗ classifications and sort of why why are

13:36 ↗ classifications in our Park system in

13:38 ↗ Portland

13:40 ↗ anyway okay

13:41 ↗ so when we first start looking at a plan

13:44 ↗ you kind of have to establish a baseline

13:46 ↗ of what type of parks you have in your

13:49 ↗ plan

13:50 ↗ um and they kind of become the core of

13:52 ↗ everything around it

13:54 ↗ um when we're looking at classifications

13:56 ↗ you want to ask ourselves like what are

13:58 ↗ classifications and why do we need them

14:02 ↗ um they allow jurisdictions to identify

14:04 ↗ different types of parks and obviously

14:07 ↗ we do have several different types of

14:09 ↗ parks that we really want to start

14:11 ↗ refining and aligning with

14:15 ↗ um kind of national standards so we have

14:18 ↗ a baseline to compare ourselves with

14:21 ↗ um we look at the similarities across a

14:23 ↗ number of characteristics throughout the

14:24 ↗ system

14:25 ↗ and typically they're driven by Park use

14:28 ↗ purpose and size

14:30 ↗ well why are they really important I

14:32 ↗ think classification is really establish

14:35 ↗ that language for our Park system and

14:38 ↗ what we want that Park system to do how

14:41 ↗ we want it to perform

14:43 ↗ um

14:44 ↗ you know we're looking at different

14:45 ↗ locations programming and uses of

14:48 ↗ different types because each Park serves

14:51 ↗ a different kind of purpose for the

14:52 ↗ community

14:54 ↗ um it can help in assessing and

14:55 ↗ promoting connectivity Acquisitions and

14:58 ↗ just the overall condition their level

15:00 ↗ of service of the parks

15:02 ↗ and then why do we need to update them

15:04 ↗ well we established our initial Park

15:07 ↗ classification in 2018 but as most

15:10 ↗ cities are they're very Dynamic and they

15:14 ↗ change with the times we need to change

15:16 ↗ with the times we're looking at what

15:19 ↗ available land we are a little bit Lane

15:21 ↗ constrained so we want to see what's

15:24 ↗ left that we can we can acquire for the

15:28 ↗ system acquire for our needs

15:31 ↗ um and just the the community has become

15:33 ↗ more Dynamic and the needs definitely

15:35 ↗ change throughout the years can I touch

15:38 ↗ on one thing too Robin great great

15:39 ↗ overview

15:40 ↗ um

15:43 ↗ we did a lot of work in the 2018 plan

15:45 ↗ one thing we didn't really do is take

15:47 ↗ this deep dive into the classifications

15:49 ↗ we really took the classification

15:52 ↗ definitions and the approach that the

15:54 ↗ city took for a number of years

15:56 ↗ um

15:57 ↗ and I guess I would say that um and and

16:02 ↗ as Robin sort of goes into the specifics

16:04 ↗ I I hope you'll you'll start to see and

16:06 ↗ we've got some core questions

16:09 ↗ um I think it's time that we

16:11 ↗ um

16:13 ↗ we really look at them deeply and are

16:15 ↗ they are they really helping Define our

16:18 ↗ system and the function of our system

16:20 ↗ um or or aren't they and in some cases I

16:23 ↗ I think as we look at the priorities of

16:25 ↗ connectivity uh that this community has

16:28 ↗ the reality that we have a number of our

16:30 ↗ Park Parcels that are much more linear

16:32 ↗ in Form and Function that they are

16:35 ↗ um as as sort of more of a DOT more of a

16:38 ↗ community park a neighborhood park we

16:41 ↗ really think it's important to make sure

16:42 ↗ we have classifications that help

16:45 ↗ really clearly portray what our system

16:48 ↗ how our system functions

16:50 ↗ so yeah definitely

16:55 ↗ so here are our current classifications

16:57 ↗ and I really I'll let you all read

17:00 ↗ through those but what we wanted to do

17:01 ↗ is the pieces and the the parts that are

17:05 ↗ in red are really what we want to dive

17:07 ↗ into and discuss today and and see if

17:10 ↗ they really make sense with this

17:12 ↗ national standards make sense for our

17:14 ↗ system it makes sense moving forward so

17:17 ↗ for Community Parks we're realizing that

17:20 ↗ what we have right now is ranging from 1

17:22 ↗ to 50 acres but does that one acre

17:25 ↗ really provide enough amenities for

17:28 ↗ Community Park that's one thing we want

17:30 ↗ to see if we want to increase and start

17:34 ↗ um and that wouldn't be typical and if

17:36 ↗ you were to look at a National Standard

17:37 ↗ if you look at the cities around us most

17:39 ↗ cities will Define a community park as

17:41 ↗ 20 acres or larger or 10 acres or larger

17:44 ↗ so again just some of those

17:47 ↗ um

17:48 ↗ yeah some of these really really

17:49 ↗ important checks yeah

17:52 ↗ um then next up is neighborhood parks

17:54 ↗ which are typically smaller in size and

17:56 ↗ Community parks and those really range

17:59 ↗ from one to five acres or less than five

18:02 ↗ acres

18:03 ↗ a resource Parks I want to point out

18:06 ↗ research we highlighted that because

18:09 ↗ we've been talking back and forth is

18:10 ↗ that really an appropriate name

18:12 ↗ for that resource kid

18:15 ↗ apply many different things so we kind

18:18 ↗ of want to straighten that out tighten

18:19 ↗ that up

18:21 ↗ um and then in research parts right now

18:24 ↗ we have these resource parks are

18:25 ↗ generally more passive including items

18:28 ↗ such as trails and interpretive signage

18:31 ↗ but that also conflicts with some of the

18:33 ↗ other classifications so we just want to

18:35 ↗ narrow that down and keep redefining

18:38 ↗ that a natural open space kind of

18:42 ↗ self-explanatory

18:46 ↗ in undeveloped Parks again property that

18:48 ↗ has not yet been funded or developed as

18:51 ↗ Parkland but is in line to be developed

18:54 ↗ in the future

18:55 ↗ uh facilities obviously building that as

18:58 ↗ public use for Gathering spaces and then

19:00 ↗ we did have Urban and natural Trails but

19:03 ↗ we want to pull Trails out of the park

19:06 ↗ classifications all together and start

19:08 ↗ aligning with what Public Works has

19:12 ↗ so we'd still have Trail classifications

19:14 ↗ but

19:16 ↗ having Trail classifications fit within

19:19 ↗ Park classification they're two they're

19:20 ↗ two different things a trail is an

19:22 ↗ amenity within the system

19:25 ↗ Park classifications usually have to do

19:27 ↗ with the land itself the parcel itself

19:36 ↗ all right so for with the new

19:37 ↗ classifications we really want to

19:40 ↗ develop criteria that we are assessing

19:42 ↗ to make sure we're assessing each one

19:44 ↗ similarly we're looking at acreage

19:47 ↗ active or passive use amenities access

19:51 ↗ is very important landscape in the

19:53 ↗ environment and the stewardship of our

19:56 ↗ natural or open space and how does that

19:59 ↗ heart classification fit within the

20:01 ↗ green necklace Network

20:04 ↗ foreign

20:05 ↗ so we're starting to look at new

20:07 ↗ language

20:09 ↗ and the blue text is really what we want

20:13 ↗ to kind of focus on and open that up for

20:16 ↗ discussion again we were talking

20:18 ↗ Community parks are generally larger in

20:21 ↗ acreage so we're thinking they'll be

20:23 ↗ ranging from 5 to 50 acres and 10 10 to

20:30 ↗ 50 acres sorry 10 to 50 acres centrally

20:32 ↗ located for multiple neighborhoods and I

20:35 ↗ think that's really important to know

20:37 ↗ that this is actually servicing not one

20:39 ↗ neighborhood but can serve as multiples

20:42 ↗ um Community parks are kind of the best

20:45 ↗ of all worlds where various active and

20:47 ↗ paths abuses and we're seeing with

20:49 ↗ approximately a third of that land

20:52 ↗ reserved for active recreation use

20:56 ↗ so that'll help us balance priorities

20:58 ↗ amenities and what we want to put in

21:01 ↗ these Community parks

21:03 ↗ for neighborhood parks we're

21:06 ↗ um

21:07 ↗ kind of keeping the same range of

21:08 ↗ acreage one to five acres but these are

21:11 ↗ designed to serve the needs of basically

21:13 ↗ one neighborhood so again much smaller

21:18 ↗ um not as many amenities but applicable

21:20 ↗ to that specific neighborhood

21:24 ↗ and then we're seeing or recommending

21:26 ↗ that with approximately a quarter of

21:28 ↗ that land reserved for active recreation

21:30 ↗ use

21:33 ↗ um nature parks our resource Parks we

21:35 ↗ thought would be better served as or

21:37 ↗ defined as nature parks that could range

21:40 ↗ from 1 to 50 acres so it's very flexible

21:43 ↗ depending on the location of the park

21:46 ↗ and really the primary focus is on

21:50 ↗ preserving forested areas and supporting

21:53 ↗ wildlife and habitat conservations

21:56 ↗ again this could actually be located

21:59 ↗ anywhere so we really like that

22:00 ↗ flexibility

22:03 ↗ um needs a strong connection to an urban

22:05 ↗ or natural Trail which we kind of see

22:08 ↗ throughout the park system right now and

22:10 ↗ provide links to other natural spaces uh

22:13 ↗ limited active Recreation news focused

22:16 ↗ on passive Recreation

22:18 ↗ so this wouldn't be a highly active Park

22:22 ↗ and then open space again one to 50

22:25 ↗ acres you know just aligning with with

22:28 ↗ the available plan that we know we're

22:30 ↗ going to have or have right now

22:33 ↗ um it's basically native ground is to

22:36 ↗ remain relatively undeveloped for

22:38 ↗ wildlife and habitat preservation but

22:40 ↗ the primary focus on passive Recreation

22:42 ↗ with trails

22:44 ↗ uh no active Recreation development at

22:47 ↗ all

22:52 ↗ then we have undeveloped Parks one to 50

22:55 ↗ acres so undeveloped could be located in

22:58 ↗ natural or commercial areas and held

23:01 ↗ until activated

23:03 ↗ and the important thing for this is we

23:06 ↗ may need to still stabilize some of

23:08 ↗ these sites depending on the condition

23:09 ↗ that they're in so there might be some

23:12 ↗ activity it just wouldn't be developed

23:14 ↗ another important distinction would be

23:17 ↗ um no thanks Robin great overview an

23:21 ↗ undeveloped park has an intention of

23:22 ↗ being developed someday right so it

23:24 ↗ might I mean in some cases an individual

23:27 ↗ car an undeveloped Park may look a lot

23:29 ↗ like a Nature Park or look a lot like

23:32 ↗ open space in its current state it's

23:34 ↗ just that it has a plan to become

23:36 ↗ something else

23:39 ↗ so an undeveloped Park would be a

23:42 ↗ classification that think of it it

23:45 ↗ wouldn't be a permanent classification

23:46 ↗ for that parcel it's just it's living

23:48 ↗ that classification until it becomes

23:50 ↗ something else

23:52 ↗ I think what would be helpful is

23:55 ↗ instead of doing it like we set the

23:57 ↗ criteria and then we try to fit the

23:58 ↗ parks in it would be good to see what

24:00 ↗ parks fall into each one of the criteria

24:02 ↗ to make sure that the criteria are

24:03 ↗ correct right because we don't want to

24:05 ↗ say 10 acres and all of a sudden I don't

24:06 ↗ know for example like Tibbetts is less

24:08 ↗ than 10 acres like oh no it's definitely

24:09 ↗ this kind of Park so I think if we can

24:12 ↗ send that out and be like this is an

24:13 ↗ example of the parts that would fall in

24:15 ↗ yeah no it's great and we've done some

24:16 ↗ of that cursory work I think discussion

24:19 ↗ around this I did do we want to do we

24:21 ↗ want to Tinker with the classifications

24:23 ↗ are we headed the right direction and

24:24 ↗ you're right the next step would be

24:26 ↗ coming back with

24:27 ↗ okay here here's here's what our roster

24:30 ↗ of Parts looks like and here's how quite

24:32 ↗ frankly how our acreage

24:34 ↗ adjusts and in many ways how are acreage

24:37 ↗ is functioning

24:41 ↗ and then the blues are two new

24:42 ↗ classifications that we're proposing the

24:45 ↗ Greenways which I'm sure it's kind of a

24:48 ↗ little bit of a buzzword but you hear

24:49 ↗ that quite often

24:51 ↗ um we're interpreting that they could

24:54 ↗ range from 20 to 30 feet wide at a

24:56 ↗ quarter mile or longer and again these

24:58 ↗ are just ideas to throw out there it

25:01 ↗ could be less it could be more

25:03 ↗ um but basically located in it could be

25:05 ↗ located in natural commercial areas

25:07 ↗ serving multiple neighborhoods but the

25:10 ↗ primary focus is really supporting

25:12 ↗ ecological restoration around that trail

25:15 ↗ and preserving

25:16 ↗ that landscape it could be used for

25:20 ↗ Trails but we're recognizing we still

25:23 ↗ need to keep that property open for our

25:25 ↗ flood zones and storm water control

25:27 ↗ measures but you're seeing more and more

25:29 ↗ parks and Landscapes being integrated in

25:31 ↗ so they serve multiple functions

25:34 ↗ and then linear Parks could range from

25:36 ↗ 30 to 50 feet wide we find that that's a

25:40 ↗ good width any smaller than that and it

25:43 ↗ almost becomes it's really difficult to

25:45 ↗ fit for creation yeah

25:47 ↗ um

25:48 ↗ and we're thinking that that really

25:50 ↗ there's an emphasis on more urban or

25:52 ↗ commercial environments and primarily

25:55 ↗ accessed by sidewalks or another Trail

25:57 ↗ urban trail system

25:59 ↗ with a primary focus on active uses

26:02 ↗ secondary and passive uses so we're

26:05 ↗ going to see with Development coming in

26:07 ↗ a lot more linear Parts there's still

26:09 ↗ function really well they still provide

26:12 ↗ quite a few amenities they're just very

26:14 ↗ long and narrow it's not what you

26:16 ↗ typically think of a park but you know

26:19 ↗ we can see that trying starting to

26:21 ↗ happen

26:21 ↗ again with the goals of connectivity we

26:24 ↗ think these having two classifications

26:26 ↗ that are more linear in nature will

26:28 ↗ really serve an important role in how

26:31 ↗ some of our Parcels are functioning

26:34 ↗ um again really good overview

26:36 ↗ maybe a relatively simple way to think

26:39 ↗ of the difference between a Greenway and

26:41 ↗ a linear Park is both are a linear

26:43 ↗ parcel of a linear look

26:46 ↗ what is the primary function

26:48 ↗ in the case the greenway's primary

26:50 ↗ function is likely ecological but

26:53 ↗ there's a TR there's a recreational use

26:54 ↗ right it's multiple benefit but

26:56 ↗ primarily ecological Recreation is

26:59 ↗ secondary a linear Park is sort of

27:01 ↗ flipped linear park has primarily a

27:03 ↗ recreational

27:05 ↗ benefit but it could also have some

27:07 ↗ ecological benefit so it's just it's

27:10 ↗ thinking sort of that that primary

27:12 ↗ secondary relationship of the multiple

27:14 ↗ benefits right

27:19 ↗ I just saw

27:21 ↗ sorry Chris

27:22 ↗ um

27:23 ↗ it may not really matter but you know

27:25 ↗ especially if you do apply something

27:26 ↗ like what David mentioned but like there

27:28 ↗ are some gaps like in the numbers like

27:30 ↗ go one to five and then yeah and you may

27:33 ↗ just find out that you know we don't

27:35 ↗ have any or we need a place to put the

27:37 ↗ seven and a half acre or whatever or

27:40 ↗ throw in a lot of approximates

27:42 ↗ um and then uh for the greenway so it

27:45 ↗ would the green necklace would be a

27:47 ↗ Greenway

27:49 ↗ green necklace could be a cool I think

27:51 ↗ the green necklace is not a singular

27:53 ↗ thing the green necklace is probably

27:54 ↗ going to have some Park classifications

27:56 ↗ but it's probably gonna have some linear

27:58 ↗ Parks it's also going to have some

27:59 ↗ Greenways I think these prescient photos

28:01 ↗ that that Robin provided are a good

28:03 ↗ example I would say just within our

28:05 ↗ system the Rainier Trail

28:07 ↗ there's a parcel of that it really

28:09 ↗ functions a lot as a in many places as a

28:12 ↗ linear Park

28:14 ↗ um

28:16 ↗ in some cases it functions as a Greenway

28:18 ↗ though as well

28:20 ↗ um

28:21 ↗ the recently

28:24 ↗ acquired

28:26 ↗ parcel that's again linear nature that's

28:28 ↗ part of the I was referred to it as the

28:31 ↗ Gateway Apartments it's now Anthology

28:34 ↗ Apartments off of Newport right that

28:37 ↗ that the boardwalk and then there's a

28:39 ↗ parcel that again is relatively linear

28:41 ↗ nature not really a community park is it

28:45 ↗ really a neighborhood park it could be

28:47 ↗ more of a linear Park so just wanting to

28:51 ↗ give ourselves that kind of adaptability

28:54 ↗ I think you've got a couple photos there

28:55 ↗ of

28:58 ↗ and then

29:01 ↗ yeah the Wetland area and the boardwalk

29:03 ↗ don't worry about that

29:04 ↗ just to give you ideas of what that game

29:11 ↗ okay and then looking at Trail

29:13 ↗ classifications again we're going to

29:15 ↗ separate that out from the park

29:17 ↗ classifications but with the um

29:20 ↗ comprehensive plan coming out we wanted

29:22 ↗ to make sure we're better aligned with

29:24 ↗ that language as well and there there is

29:27 ↗ a confusion there going back and forth

29:30 ↗ so really our urban trail according to

29:33 ↗ the municode is a multi-purpose Trail

29:35 ↗ we're looking at natural Trails more as

29:39 ↗ a forest path

29:40 ↗ or a neighborhood Trail

29:43 ↗ so we want to start moving that language

29:45 ↗ and aligning that a little bit better

29:47 ↗ so our thoughts tonight just as we move

29:50 ↗ forward with this on on this in

29:52 ↗ particular as Robin says you know

29:55 ↗ still having Trail classifications but

29:57 ↗ letting them live as their own not not

30:00 ↗ embedded within Park classifications and

30:02 ↗ then really

30:04 ↗ um taking a look at the new title 18 the

30:06 ↗ new development code and making sure

30:08 ↗ what we're classifying and our

30:10 ↗ definitions of trails trying to have

30:12 ↗ some consistency across all these

30:15 ↗ planning documents and code

30:20 ↗ a little bit of cleaning up

30:26 ↗ yeah this is what I was working on this

30:29 ↗ week actually so

30:31 ↗ um coming out in the next few weeks is

30:33 ↗ going to be our first online survey for

30:35 ↗ the park system update

30:37 ↗ um we're looking at our goals with the

30:40 ↗ community that we want to

30:42 ↗ assess are assessing the existing system

30:45 ↗ what do we have right now what are

30:47 ↗ people using right now uh assess what is

30:49 ↗ missing in the system again we have

30:52 ↗ Dynamic communities that are always

30:54 ↗ changing and we want to make sure that

30:56 ↗ we're providing the amenities that

30:58 ↗ families need

31:00 ↗ uh what are are the future priorities

31:02 ↗ what do

31:04 ↗ people think that we need to really

31:06 ↗ focus on

31:07 ↗ is it system accessible and Equitable

31:10 ↗ this is a big

31:12 ↗ um

31:13 ↗ thing that I I really like to look at is

31:15 ↗ in making sure our system is accessible

31:18 ↗ for all ages

31:20 ↗ um we say if a child from eight and a

31:23 ↗ person from eight to eighty can utilize

31:25 ↗ the space and that's a successful design

31:28 ↗ so that's what we're going to shoot for

31:29 ↗ and then are we being environmental

31:31 ↗ stewards

31:33 ↗ um you know with the new code

31:35 ↗ uh comes new buffer comes new

31:38 ↗ Conservation Area so let's make sure

31:40 ↗ that as we're developing we're actually

31:42 ↗ protecting at the same time and

31:45 ↗ balancing those amenities

31:47 ↗ uh survey timeline

31:50 ↗ um the first survey is going to open

31:51 ↗ late September you know we're looking

31:54 ↗ we're doing a translation right now so

31:57 ↗ that may take an extra week but we want

31:58 ↗ to make sure again we're reaching out to

32:00 ↗ as many people as we can and that will

32:03 ↗ close between the 13th and the 18th and

32:06 ↗ then we're going to have QR codes and

32:08 ↗ flyers at parks and community events

32:12 ↗ um we're going to try for salmon days

32:13 ↗ but if not we'll we'll make sure that we

32:16 ↗ focus on other events and get it out to

32:19 ↗ Broad as many people as we can yeah

32:22 ↗ really broad broadcast of information to

32:26 ↗ many email distributions

32:28 ↗ also utilizing some of our successful

32:31 ↗ Outreach efforts these last couple of

32:33 ↗ years we'll have some yard signs with

32:36 ↗ the QR codes streaming throughout our

32:39 ↗ parks and our trail system really

32:40 ↗ inviting residents to pop right on and

32:43 ↗ take the survey so

32:46 ↗ foreign

32:56 ↗ so just teeing up

32:58 ↗ um we've got a couple questions to and

33:00 ↗ really want to have some discussion

33:01 ↗ about the classifications but before

33:03 ↗ that just a little bit of a look ahead

33:06 ↗ um

33:07 ↗ um you might remember I think I'm

33:09 ↗ looking at Brad book online Brad and

33:12 ↗ Chris I think we're both part of a

33:13 ↗ subgroup that took a look at goals and

33:15 ↗ policies sort of towards the end of the

33:17 ↗ 2018 plan we want to dust those off

33:20 ↗ again and take an early look

33:23 ↗ um how do they fit how do they align

33:25 ↗ have a conversation around goals and

33:28 ↗ policies in October

33:30 ↗ um

33:31 ↗ and then come back based on that uh

33:33 ↗ conversation communication

33:36 ↗ um see if we can firm things up in

33:38 ↗ November and have some recommendations

33:40 ↗ that's an important date we'd love to

33:42 ↗ hit that date and that as Robin said

33:45 ↗ earlier the comprehensive plan is

33:46 ↗ getting updated the same time we're

33:48 ↗ doing our heart Plan update so it would

33:51 ↗ be great to have our goals and policies

33:53 ↗ work service foundational for our Park

33:56 ↗ Plan update but then it will also go on

33:59 ↗ a parallel path tour along with the

34:03 ↗ other sections of the comprehensive plan

34:06 ↗ goals and policies as it navigates that

34:08 ↗ adoption process so

34:11 ↗ great timing for that discussion not

34:14 ↗ only again informing our plan but really

34:17 ↗ aligning really well with the

34:19 ↗ comprehensive plan as well

34:26 ↗ so yeah just I love to open it up for a

34:29 ↗ conversation here's some questions more

34:31 ↗ as prompts if you've got questions we

34:34 ↗ can bounce back to the to the

34:36 ↗ classifications but would love your

34:38 ↗ thoughts on

34:40 ↗ um what could end up being a pretty

34:42 ↗ significant change with the community

34:43 ↗ park definition

34:45 ↗ but I think it's important we do it

34:48 ↗ so I'd love some thoughts around that

34:50 ↗ and then any thoughts or questions you

34:53 ↗ might have around

34:54 ↗ these classifications that are more

34:56 ↗ linear in nature and then did we miss

35:00 ↗ anything

35:01 ↗ I see Brad's hand is up

35:06 ↗ do I get to talk okay

35:08 ↗ um

35:09 ↗ I like the additions I like the

35:12 ↗ clarifications

35:14 ↗ um uh just a couple things that I would

35:16 ↗ want to point out much like Chris

35:18 ↗ mentioned I think the five to ten acre

35:21 ↗ Gap is something that needs to be looked

35:24 ↗ at a little further not only when we

35:27 ↗ start fitting in our existing Parks but

35:29 ↗ just keep in mind of future Acquisitions

35:32 ↗ that's also going to be an issue I mean

35:34 ↗ we might run across them seven or eight

35:37 ↗ eight acre parcel at some point to turn

35:40 ↗ into a park and it's not going to fall

35:42 ↗ within either of these classifications

35:44 ↗ the way it's written so

35:46 ↗ something needs to be done with that Gap

35:48 ↗ and I guess I'll leave it up to you what

35:51 ↗ that best thing would be I would drop

35:53 ↗ the community maybe down to five instead

35:55 ↗ of ten as a solution to that but as you

35:59 ↗ pointed out Jeff uh

36:02 ↗ um maybe that's just too minimal amount

36:04 ↗ of acreage for a community park given

36:07 ↗ all the other areas

36:09 ↗ um

36:10 ↗ one thing that I've been an advocate of

36:12 ↗ for some time

36:15 ↗ uh is public art

36:17 ↗ and interpretive signage

36:19 ↗ uh we have a lot of educational

36:21 ↗ opportunities in our Park system and

36:24 ↗ interpretive signage is a good way of

36:26 ↗ accomplishing uh that education

36:29 ↗ there isn't really anything in these

36:31 ↗ classifications about public art and I

36:33 ↗ think this is a good time to start that

36:35 ↗ discussion about where public art should

36:38 ↗ be within our Park system

36:40 ↗ I mean I think that Jacob two trees is a

36:43 ↗ perfect in my opinion the best thing

36:46 ↗ that the city has has produced in terms

36:50 ↗ of public art in a very long time and

36:53 ↗ here it is in a linear Park along

36:55 ↗ Rainier Trail so I think we need to talk

36:58 ↗ more about that in terms of where it's

37:01 ↗ appropriate to put public art and

37:03 ↗ interpretive signage the only language

37:05 ↗ on interpretive signage that I saw is in

37:07 ↗ the new language of even that might be

37:10 ↗ missing in nature parks it was in the

37:12 ↗ resource Park language before

37:15 ↗ um and and so we need to we need to

37:17 ↗ include that somewhere and I would be

37:19 ↗ more Broad in scope of that because even

37:22 ↗ some of our community parks

37:25 ↗ um and neighborhood parks I could see

37:27 ↗ potential for uh public art and

37:30 ↗ interpretive signage um you know I I

37:32 ↗ look at Veterans Memorial as a perfect

37:34 ↗ example of the amount of History that's

37:37 ↗ involved in that park at some point uh

37:40 ↗ public art and interpretive signage

37:42 ↗ might be appropriate to uh to that Park

37:46 ↗ um and so you don't want to necessarily

37:48 ↗ just restrict that to linear Parks or

37:50 ↗ Greenway

37:52 ↗ um and so I would be an advocate to

37:55 ↗ included in community parks

37:58 ↗ and also maybe even neighborhood parks

38:01 ↗ or really all of classifications I could

38:04 ↗ see the potential for it

38:07 ↗ um and I think that that covers my main

38:11 ↗ points thanks

38:14 ↗ great Point Brad thank you um just to

38:17 ↗ you know add your your comment of public

38:19 ↗ art really good as we think of

38:21 ↗ classifications but also I think an

38:24 ↗ important thing to think about as we

38:25 ↗ talk goals and policies and are our

38:28 ↗ goals and policies speaking to that

38:31 ↗ desire intent interest if if you know

38:34 ↗ that is a collective interest which I

38:35 ↗ think it is I just are we taking the

38:38 ↗ opportunities for storytelling

38:40 ↗ storytelling through both public art and

38:43 ↗ interpretive signs

38:44 ↗ um for for these Park spaces so really

38:48 ↗ good thanks for that

38:50 ↗ um your thought on community parks and

38:53 ↗ neighborhood parks agreed and both Chris

38:56 ↗ and David brought it up as well

38:58 ↗ um yeah Rob and I can take a look and

39:01 ↗ again sort of see what

39:04 ↗ um

39:04 ↗ some of our what our best practices

39:07 ↗ amongst some of our neighboring

39:09 ↗ jurisdictions what are some best

39:11 ↗ practices of jurisdictions of our same

39:13 ↗ size again we're an immensely

39:14 ↗ constrained City we have a mentally

39:17 ↗ constrained Park system

39:19 ↗ um so

39:21 ↗ um yeah we'll we'll try and be really

39:23 ↗ smart with and bring something back to

39:25 ↗ you all

39:26 ↗ um and some of you saw my hand gestures

39:29 ↗ we might even think of something as

39:31 ↗ creative as you know a community park

39:35 ↗ acreage size in a neighborhood Park

39:38 ↗ acreage size don't have to meet in one

39:40 ↗ place there could actually be a little

39:42 ↗ bit of overlap

39:44 ↗ um and and let the function of the it's

39:47 ↗ not just always the acreage but the

39:50 ↗ function the proximity the geography of

39:52 ↗ that Park could also play in so we'll

39:55 ↗ again look at some best practices and

39:57 ↗ try and give us ample

40:00 ↗ um flexibility and Clarity at the same

40:02 ↗ time

40:05 ↗ I have a couple things

40:08 ↗ um so echoing David's comment about

40:11 ↗ examples of which Park's been what

40:14 ↗ classification because I have as a city

40:16 ↗ kid I don't totally have A Great Notion

40:19 ↗ of like how big is 10 acres and which

40:21 ↗ Parks fall into that classification

40:23 ↗ versus not and so it's helpful to have

40:25 ↗ some point of reference of okay it

40:27 ↗ doesn't functionally make sense if this

40:29 ↗ is what a commuting Park is this is

40:31 ↗ which parts would fall into that

40:32 ↗ category

40:33 ↗ and then I was curious about that there

40:35 ↗ was some

40:36 ↗ description in there about one-third or

40:39 ↗ one quarter of the park being dedicated

40:41 ↗ for active recreational activities

40:45 ↗ and wondering if that was

40:48 ↗ like how strict that is like if it's

40:51 ↗ could it be more and should it be more

40:53 ↗ or should it be less or is it flexible

40:55 ↗ like is it basically um a guideline or a

40:59 ↗ prescription in terms of how we think

41:01 ↗ about the the actual way that the parks

41:04 ↗ are used and then um sorry last one was

41:08 ↗ the the trails piece and you were kind

41:10 ↗ of explaining this Jeff but I didn't

41:11 ↗ quite follow in terms of

41:14 ↗ how from the old or existing

41:16 ↗ classification the new classification

41:19 ↗ what what the implications are for how

41:21 ↗ we think about trails and our Trails

41:23 ↗ essentially now Greenways and linear

41:25 ↗ Parks or is Trail something totally

41:26 ↗ different and so we can just use a

41:28 ↗ little bit more clarity on

41:30 ↗ how that pans out in the new system

41:33 ↗ yeah yeah

41:35 ↗ really good

41:37 ↗ um

41:38 ↗ maybe the last one first

41:40 ↗ um in terms of I think the thought of

41:45 ↗ trails and connectivity are really

41:47 ↗ really important in this community

41:49 ↗ um a parse a part classification is

41:53 ↗ meant to be a way of defining describing

41:57 ↗ categorizing

42:00 ↗ Parcels of land so the classification

42:03 ↗ goes with the land not with the amenity

42:06 ↗ a trail is a really important amenity

42:10 ↗ within a park

42:12 ↗ right and so

42:14 ↗ um we think Trail classifications are

42:17 ↗ are just as just as important and just

42:19 ↗ as critical I think as we're looking at

42:21 ↗ connectivity we might be able where

42:25 ↗ we're connecting with land and have

42:28 ↗ either ownership or a classification

42:31 ↗ that becomes a grainway

42:33 ↗ right so the the part classification is

42:37 ↗ classifying the the land itself

42:40 ↗ um there could be a trail in that green

42:43 ↗ way right but in some cases we might

42:46 ↗ have trails that

42:49 ↗ um are just a trail and don't

42:51 ↗ necessarily have

42:53 ↗ the land ownership or a a swath of land

42:57 ↗ or a parcel of land that we own

43:00 ↗ underneath

43:01 ↗ the classification they would fall

43:04 ↗ outside the park classification but they

43:06 ↗ would be classified as a trail right

43:08 ↗ what's the trail goal that we have or

43:11 ↗ let's say you know so many of our

43:14 ↗ Wilderness trails are on a park that's

43:17 ↗ classified as open space

43:19 ↗ and we also have the trail right so they

43:23 ↗ in many cases they live together

43:26 ↗ um it's just a way of making sure we're

43:28 ↗ not trying to classify really important

43:31 ↗ Park and really important amenities

43:33 ↗ we're not trying to classify them as a a

43:36 ↗ part classification themselves um I hope

43:39 ↗ I'm not making that too confusing your

43:42 ↗ second question had to do with

43:45 ↗ um the active activity yeah the the

43:47 ↗ scalability you know that those and

43:50 ↗ please jump in on it I'll take my my

43:53 ↗ first shot at it that idea of at least

43:55 ↗ one-third is active or at least a

43:58 ↗ portion of it is active there's not a

44:00 ↗ it's not meant to be a prescribed amount

44:03 ↗ um super flexible there and I think it's

44:06 ↗ meant to read as at least that

44:09 ↗ percentage of it is active a higher

44:12 ↗ percentage of it could be active but I

44:14 ↗ think within those classifications

44:15 ↗ community park and neighborhood park and

44:18 ↗ as you look at all of those those really

44:20 ↗ are the two classifications that denote

44:23 ↗ active developed

44:25 ↗ Parkland right that you know and I think

44:28 ↗ we're trying to say in our

44:30 ↗ classification there's a there's a

44:33 ↗ there's an intentional development this

44:36 ↗ is meant to be a developed partner

44:38 ↗ to be a community park or a neighborhood

44:40 ↗ park

44:41 ↗ um but it also doesn't mean 100 of it

44:43 ↗ needs to be right in many cases

44:46 ↗ um there are neighborhood parks that

44:48 ↗ have those active amenities but can

44:51 ↗ still

44:52 ↗ look and feel very much like a

44:55 ↗ forested space Hillside Park's probably

44:57 ↗ a great example right that's a

44:59 ↗ neighborhood park but that it we're not

45:01 ↗ saying as a neighborhood park it needs

45:03 ↗ to somehow look and feel like a because

45:05 ↗ that neighborhood doesn't want a highly

45:09 ↗ developed part so it's it's meant to

45:12 ↗ just function more as a hey there's a

45:15 ↗ degree of there's an intentionality that

45:17 ↗ it's actively developed that it's

45:18 ↗ developed but it doesn't

45:21 ↗ entirely have to be developed right it's

45:23 ↗ effective like a field that you can

45:25 ↗ reserve for a sports event or is it like

45:27 ↗ a playground that's active yeah active

45:31 ↗ and well developed in terms of yeah it's

45:34 ↗ it's

45:35 ↗ adult field it's an irrigated law it's a

45:38 ↗ playground it's a it's a picnic shelters

45:40 ↗ it's

45:41 ↗ um

45:42 ↗ you know Tibbetts Valley Park versus

45:45 ↗ um

45:47 ↗ Harvey Manning Park burning spot right

45:50 ↗ um perks was not going to be a community

45:52 ↗ park or a neighborhood park it's just

45:54 ↗ really meant to be a corridor up into

46:00 ↗ this

46:01 ↗ so really good

46:04 ↗ I and again these weren't efforts at

46:06 ↗ trying to create descriptions I I think

46:08 ↗ and and just hearing this discussion I

46:11 ↗ think a next step for Robin and I is to

46:13 ↗ really say all right let's

46:16 ↗ let's take these classifications let's

46:18 ↗ start to prescribe our our Parkland to

46:21 ↗ it

46:22 ↗ so we can sort of see proportionally how

46:24 ↗ does it play out and then take a little

46:27 ↗ bit more Issaquah Centric attempt at the

46:31 ↗ at the descriptions so describing them

46:33 ↗ so they're really describing Issaquah

46:35 ↗ system it's not

46:37 ↗ sort of just a generic description

46:42 ↗ I think one thing that could be helpful

46:43 ↗ especially for Community Parks is having

46:46 ↗ a dimension of

46:48 ↗ people that flow through it so it's not

46:51 ↗ just it's 50 acres Community Markets

46:53 ↗ also I would argue pedestrian Park is a

46:55 ↗ community

46:56 ↗ Park it's small it's less than an acre

46:57 ↗ but thousands of people want through it

46:59 ↗ like every month right so

47:01 ↗ um having that Dimension would Hilton

47:03 ↗ really good in terms of use yeah sort of

47:06 ↗ intensity of use yeah

47:09 ↗ you bring up a great Point David and I I

47:11 ↗ guess I'll tease up you know as we look

47:14 ↗ at how again how do our Parks function

47:17 ↗ you know there's a collective

47:19 ↗ classification when you look at

47:21 ↗ pedestrian Park Depot Park Veterans

47:24 ↗ Memorial Field the senior center right

47:28 ↗ those

47:29 ↗ in their collection function as a

47:33 ↗ community park right okay right

47:35 ↗ um to get to the very thing you're

47:37 ↗ saying yeah

47:38 ↗ yeah

47:40 ↗ [Music]

47:41 ↗ I think

47:43 ↗ um

47:47 ↗ it will be good to know as well your

47:50 ↗ plans for allocating

47:53 ↗ the percentage of development for

47:55 ↗ classification it's not fully clear

47:59 ↗ with your comparison if you're you're

48:03 ↗ changing any allegations or development

48:06 ↗ for our classification

48:09 ↗ um so it will be impossible to know that

48:12 ↗ as well

48:14 ↗ um it also each classification also

48:17 ↗ doesn't have every classification are

48:22 ↗ all above one acre so I'm curious if it

48:26 ↗ has been considered that

48:28 ↗ smaller parts can exist too and if

48:31 ↗ that's a classification that um marks

48:34 ↗ being considered as well

48:37 ↗ and I think

48:41 ↗ um also the

48:44 ↗ gym

48:45 ↗ the additional classifications like

48:48 ↗ gateways and linear paths I think it

48:51 ↗ will be helpful because you talked about

48:53 ↗ updating your art goals

48:56 ↗ how do the additional

49:00 ↗ classifications title the goals of the

49:03 ↗ city yeah are you planning or 80 of the

49:07 ↗ city to have access to Greenways or

49:10 ↗ living practices

49:13 ↗ we did

49:18 ↗ so somebody's how does this work with

49:20 ↗ classifications

49:23 ↗ the foundational work of the

49:25 ↗ classifications also mesh with the

49:27 ↗ foundational work of the goals and

49:28 ↗ policies

49:30 ↗ it's really good

49:34 ↗ a couple

49:36 ↗ um on the trail classifications

49:38 ↗ I don't know if you can pull that one up

49:43 ↗ yeah so

49:46 ↗ the

49:47 ↗ code with the new adoptive code is

49:50 ↗ switching from urban trail

49:53 ↗ to multi-purpose Trail

49:56 ↗ urban trail is our initial term original

49:58 ↗ term yeah and then the code is has

50:02 ↗ multi-purpose Trail now okay and that

50:05 ↗ seems fine but I think the switch from

50:07 ↗ natural trails to Forest path I know

50:10 ↗ it's maybe not something we can change

50:11 ↗ and prepare but it seems almost more

50:14 ↗ restrictive you know we might have all

50:17 ↗ kinds of different paths that aren't all

50:18 ↗ forested you know it seemed like they

50:20 ↗ they made a mistake there and

50:24 ↗ you know limiting that that way so

50:26 ↗ something we may have to

50:28 ↗ as we try to fit but know that we can't

50:32 ↗ be perfectly yeah no really good yeah

50:34 ↗ the table on the left represents and

50:37 ↗ that's pulled out of the new Carl and

50:39 ↗ again but you're right Chris I mean to

50:41 ↗ the point that we as we try and align

50:43 ↗ with it

50:44 ↗ um if we need to make sure we're still

50:47 ↗ clearly

50:49 ↗ um

50:50 ↗ defining and classifying the the types

50:53 ↗ of trails we have within our our city

50:55 ↗ system we need to make sure we're doing

50:56 ↗ that

50:57 ↗ or just give them the Post-it note for

51:00 ↗ the next time yeah yeah

51:04 ↗ um but um you know another comment more

51:06 ↗ yeah that was his focus on two words

51:10 ↗ um

51:11 ↗ I think overall the idea of you know

51:13 ↗ updating our Trail classification or

51:15 ↗ sorry our Park classifications is

51:18 ↗ valuable and I think what has been

51:20 ↗ brought up about use and

51:22 ↗ uh you know how many users are visiting

51:25 ↗ and then how many people have access to

51:28 ↗ it

51:29 ↗ I don't even know exactly how the you

51:32 ↗ would do this but maybe if there's a

51:34 ↗ possible way to examine uh you know

51:38 ↗ currently we are

51:39 ↗ 80 of the parks fall into this or 20 or

51:42 ↗ this and 30 or that and however this or

51:44 ↗ whatever

51:45 ↗ and then then just maybe look at like

51:47 ↗ what our next

51:49 ↗ projects are that are actually you know

51:51 ↗ on the Capital Improvements plan don't

51:52 ↗ say this would kind of push us in these

51:55 ↗ directions and maybe look

51:57 ↗ evaluate that way it's a really

51:59 ↗ direction we want to go how are we

52:01 ↗ almost proportionally investing across

52:04 ↗ these classifications and some you know

52:07 ↗ some things like you know City councils

52:09 ↗ decisions about how to spend the hour of

52:11 ↗ money might affect

52:14 ↗ Ed

52:26 ↗ anything else really helpful

52:32 ↗ thank you all

52:36 ↗ thank you

52:42 ↗ foreign

53:07 ↗ the next item is dog park

53:11 ↗ so I'll assaulty and it

53:15 ↗ 'd be remiss as I introduce Robin and

53:17 ↗ yes we're so excited to have Robin here

53:19 ↗ I just want to give a big thank you to

53:21 ↗ Asante Ender Rick still on the park

53:24 ↗ operations manager both is out there and

53:27 ↗ Rick Have Been instrumental this summer

53:29 ↗ as we've continued a lot of this work

53:33 ↗ moving forward in terms of design

53:35 ↗ projects something will continue to play

53:37 ↗ a pretty key role in these these Park

53:40 ↗ projects as Robin's coming on board and

53:42 ↗ she lends support to the whole

53:43 ↗ department and one of those is

53:45 ↗ the dog park so let you guys take it

53:49 ↗ away yeah

53:57 ↗ um to the Rainier Trail Dog Park

53:59 ↗ um we've had a couple of conversations

54:01 ↗ with our consultant updating based on uh

54:04 ↗ both our discussion here at the

54:05 ↗ cardboard and some of the other public

54:07 ↗ um comments that have come through

54:10 ↗ um and we just want to sort of go

54:11 ↗ through our current status what has

54:15 ↗ um changed and updated within the

54:18 ↗ conceptual plan and then talk through

54:20 ↗ our next step

54:22 ↗ um

54:28 ↗ do you want to talk about sort of the

54:31 ↗ things I guess for the revised

54:35 ↗ okay okay all right

54:38 ↗ um so basically based on our

54:40 ↗ conversation from the first conceptual

54:42 ↗ plan

54:44 ↗ um we have some updates that were shared

54:47 ↗ at the park tour I believe um that you a

54:50 ↗ few of you that were able to join us for

54:51 ↗ that

54:52 ↗ um so we just wanted to share that with

54:53 ↗ the larger board

54:55 ↗ um and then talk about the surveying and

54:59 ↗ permitting that has already happened on

55:02 ↗ that area

55:03 ↗ um and some next steps with that

55:05 ↗ um there we've talked about this and it

55:07 ↗ was included in your agenda packet the

55:10 ↗ Watershed company Wetland delineation

55:13 ↗ report from 2020 for that area

55:16 ↗ um and then at the end we will go

55:18 ↗ through the Rivalry vacation process

55:20 ↗ that we are working on that is also part

55:23 ↗ of this park

55:24 ↗ um and we'll go through our permitting

55:27 ↗ so this is the concept that you all saw

55:30 ↗ originally and gave us lots of really

55:32 ↗ great awesome feedback we also had our

55:34 ↗ open house at the dog and got some good

55:37 ↗ feedback about the features that make

55:39 ↗ sense the things that maybe don't

55:42 ↗ um and what we heard is that we do want

55:46 ↗ to keep the two entry and exit gates so

55:49 ↗ one at the front end of the park and

55:52 ↗ then one over

55:53 ↗ um at the side of the trail

55:55 ↗ um

55:56 ↗ for for folks to enter and leave from

55:59 ↗ that side of Rainier Trail

56:01 ↗ um that the servicing will likely be

56:03 ↗ bark surfacing

56:05 ↗ um that shade structures will be

56:07 ↗ included so thank you I know Marlene you

56:09 ↗ talked about that last meeting as well

56:12 ↗ um and there was consensus that keeping

56:14 ↗ a small shy dog area within the park

56:18 ↗ um would be uh added at first with the

56:21 ↗ flexibility that if that use doesn't

56:23 ↗ warrant keeping that space that there's

56:25 ↗ the opportunity to change that to a

56:28 ↗ larger dog run

56:29 ↗ um based on use

56:31 ↗ um and that we will have water stations

56:33 ↗ but not a dog washing station so all the

56:36 ↗ things that we talked about last time

56:40 ↗ um here's some more

56:42 ↗ features of the the options for the

56:46 ↗ features that may go into the park we

56:49 ↗ are still looking at dog water fountain

56:54 ↗ options that allow for Less clogging in

56:58 ↗ that bottom area because that was also

57:00 ↗ feedback that we got lots of kids and

57:04 ↗ dogs themselves like to put bark in that

57:07 ↗ area and we don't want that to clog and

57:09 ↗ so we're looking at different options

57:10 ↗ for that we will be going with uh wood

57:14 ↗ fencing and the mulch in the main area

57:16 ↗ and then this is one of the um a similar

57:20 ↗ structure for the one of the shade

57:21 ↗ structures that will be included

57:26 ↗ um so oh

57:33 ↗ um but with those changes that we talked

57:36 ↗ about for this plan

57:40 ↗ um

57:41 ↗ is there anything else that we feel is

57:44 ↗ missing from the concept

57:47 ↗ um

57:50 ↗ maybe I'm gonna I'm gonna skip this

57:52 ↗ first question until we get to the end

57:53 ↗ of it

57:54 ↗ um but just to make wanted to make note

57:57 ↗ that we do already have two memorial

57:58 ↗ benches that have been donated for this

58:01 ↗ area so there will definitely be at

58:03 ↗ least two benches within the dog park

58:06 ↗ um there is an option here to ask if

58:09 ↗ there are any other additional Memorial

58:11 ↗ or dedication programs within the dog

58:14 ↗ park that we would like to have as an

58:17 ↗ option

58:19 ↗ um

58:22 ↗ okay

58:25 ↗ um

58:27 ↗ so I'm going to

58:33 ↗ while you're doing that I don't think

58:34 ↗ maybe I can talk next steps as well and

58:37 ↗ then we can really just open it up for

58:39 ↗ discussion I know there's audience

58:41 ↗ comment yeah just real quick if you

58:42 ↗ could maybe give us a reminder about

58:44 ↗ schedule and requirements for this as

58:47 ↗ well

58:48 ↗ yeah and our next steps yeah yeah

58:53 ↗ I'm gonna pass out a couple copies

58:56 ↗ conceptual plans

58:59 ↗ um

59:01 ↗ it might it's up I think

59:05 ↗ I'll go back

59:07 ↗ with different Graphics but it's very

59:09 ↗ very cool oh maybe this is the older one

59:11 ↗ yeah

59:13 ↗ it's amazing

59:20 ↗ there should be

59:22 ↗ so

59:25 ↗ um in terms of next steps again yes it's

59:28 ↗ open to discussion I know of course you

59:31 ↗ want to open it up for audience comment

59:33 ↗ so as we're now sort of at this point of

59:37 ↗ really

59:38 ↗ um being ready to finalize design

59:42 ↗ um one of the one of the things that the

59:45 ↗ new code allows us to do and what we

59:47 ↗ want to do is we've been talking with uh

59:49 ↗ Community planning and development is we

59:51 ↗ want to do and plan to do a technical

59:53 ↗ document review

59:55 ↗ um the new code allows us to do this you

59:59 ↗ notice in the

1:00:01 ↗ um in the agenda packet we included the

1:00:05 ↗ Wetland report The Watershed company did

1:00:07 ↗ for us as part of this project dog park

1:00:10 ↗ project

1:00:12 ↗ um

1:00:14 ↗ um the technical document review really

1:00:16 ↗ lets us

1:00:18 ↗ um work with Community Planning and

1:00:20 ↗ Development to and really ask them to

1:00:23 ↗ review

1:00:24 ↗ all the critical area studies ours as

1:00:28 ↗ well as any previous critical area

1:00:30 ↗ studies and give us Clarity we and you

1:00:34 ↗ know as we do these projects

1:00:36 ↗ um we're the applicant we're not we're

1:00:39 ↗ not the regulator and so as the

1:00:41 ↗ applicants we're really seeking as sort

1:00:45 ↗ of a next step for our permitting is

1:00:47 ↗ Clarity on that critical area review

1:00:51 ↗ as we review the request that technical

1:00:54 ↗ review we'll get a response back from

1:00:58 ↗ from planning that will give us that

1:01:01 ↗ that Clarity uh in regards to the

1:01:03 ↗ critical areas and any buffers that

1:01:06 ↗ might there might be once that Clarity

1:01:09 ↗ is provided to us through that technical

1:01:11 ↗ document review we'll then be able to

1:01:14 ↗ finalize and submit our actual

1:01:17 ↗ application

1:01:18 ↗ with

1:01:20 ↗ our proposed design and any informed

1:01:24 ↗ design elements that we need to include

1:01:28 ↗ as it pertains to

1:01:30 ↗ pertains to any critical areas so it's a

1:01:33 ↗ new Step within the code I think it's a

1:01:35 ↗ really

1:01:36 ↗ from the applicant standpoint it's it's

1:01:38 ↗ a nice step to have a good step that

1:01:41 ↗ gives us that gives us that Clarity and

1:01:45 ↗ asks for them to verify

1:01:47 ↗ again the work that was done by

1:01:49 ↗ Watershed company in 2020 and making

1:01:52 ↗ sure that that is accurate and is a

1:01:56 ↗ clear

1:01:58 ↗ um

1:02:01 ↗ um

1:02:02 ↗ report and Analysis the planning and how

1:02:06 ↗ planning is going to sort of interpret

1:02:08 ↗ or not interpret but

1:02:10 ↗ um identify those critical areas and

1:02:13 ↗ buffers

1:02:15 ↗ um and then from there we'll submit

1:02:17 ↗ um the final actual submittal of the

1:02:19 ↗ application and and proceed so

1:02:23 ↗ timeline for that the goal for that is

1:02:26 ↗ um as it has been permitting process

1:02:29 ↗ this fall and

1:02:32 ↗ being able to bid and construct this

1:02:35 ↗ project in 2024

1:02:38 ↗ so we estimate given the size of the dog

1:02:42 ↗ park it's proximity construction is not

1:02:45 ↗ going to be lengthy is so as lengthy as

1:02:48 ↗ some of our other other projects this is

1:02:50 ↗ probably an eight week eight week

1:02:53 ↗ construction so we would anticipate

1:02:57 ↗ this facility opening in 2024

1:03:03 ↗ um I'd also love to touch on and just

1:03:05 ↗ remind you maybe as we go into

1:03:07 ↗ discussion dog parks and and why why

1:03:12 ↗ this and why the size and again I I

1:03:15 ↗ appreciate it Steve's uh prayers

1:03:17 ↗ question and in audience comment

1:03:20 ↗ um you may recall as a pre-pandemic we

1:03:23 ↗ were go went through a community

1:03:25 ↗ exercise of trying to identify and

1:03:27 ↗ locate a dog park uh with an idea of

1:03:31 ↗ what would it look like to have a

1:03:32 ↗ singular dog park serving all of

1:03:34 ↗ Issaquah

1:03:36 ↗ as I think that exercise unfolded

1:03:39 ↗ um recognized a potential location and a

1:03:43 ↗ location in Tibbetts Valley Park that's

1:03:45 ↗ still is is a possession of an area

1:03:49 ↗ that's going to be considered for a dog

1:03:50 ↗ park

1:03:51 ↗ um it was it was becoming clear and

1:03:54 ↗ clearer that trying to find that five to

1:03:57 ↗ ten acre

1:03:58 ↗ um singular dog park that's going to

1:04:00 ↗ serve Issaquah given the constraints of

1:04:02 ↗ our land and our community is really

1:04:06 ↗ really hard you may recall through the

1:04:08 ↗ pandemic haven't we had some discussions

1:04:10 ↗ around you know do we rather than trying

1:04:14 ↗ to find that and be a one dog park town

1:04:17 ↗ that provides one large dog park that

1:04:20 ↗ tries to serve the entire Community

1:04:22 ↗ perhaps we need to face a reality of

1:04:25 ↗ what our system is and perhaps we're

1:04:28 ↗ better served rather than having one

1:04:31 ↗ you know I'll split the difference one

1:04:32 ↗ seven acre dog park do we consider

1:04:34 ↗ having a couple of dog parks that are uh

1:04:38 ↗ you know anywhere from one acre to a

1:04:40 ↗ couple acres and rather than having

1:04:44 ↗ um a concentrated approach to providing

1:04:47 ↗ that service

1:04:48 ↗ um a more dispersed approach and having

1:04:52 ↗ multiple smaller dog parks through town

1:04:55 ↗ as we had that discussion there was a

1:04:57 ↗ lot of consensus among the park board a

1:05:00 ↗ lot of support amongst mayor and Council

1:05:02 ↗ in recognizing

1:05:05 ↗ um really the realities of our system as

1:05:08 ↗ we try and fit these amenities into our

1:05:10 ↗ Park system that it was a an approach

1:05:13 ↗ that was supported so a little bit of

1:05:15 ↗ context there to Steve's really good

1:05:17 ↗ question

1:05:21 ↗ maybe we're at a good point to if we're

1:05:23 ↗ going to go into discussion before we do

1:05:25 ↗ that to give Corey a chance to do his

1:05:28 ↗ provide this input all right thank you

1:05:31 ↗ first I want to make a quick comment on

1:05:33 ↗ the park plan uh for classifications

1:05:36 ↗ welcoming uh Robin and asking her to do

1:05:39 ↗ one favor don't forget everything you

1:05:42 ↗ learned before you got here because your

1:05:44 ↗ fresh eyes are going to be really

1:05:45 ↗ important now I'm going to start out I

1:05:48 ↗ was definitely disagreeing with all of

1:05:50 ↗ you on this classification thing because

1:05:54 ↗ I think the beginning Point ought to be

1:05:56 ↗ looking at what other cities have what

1:05:59 ↗ if you know if if the classification for

1:06:01 ↗ one particular kind of part is 10 acres

1:06:03 ↗ it's 10 acres though now I realize that

1:06:06 ↗ on some of these classifications there's

1:06:08 ↗ a little wiggle room on what they are

1:06:10 ↗ but it's basically if it's one pound

1:06:12 ↗ it's one pound one of the flaws in that

1:06:15 ↗ we've made over the years is we we

1:06:17 ↗ immediately go into the kind of

1:06:19 ↗ discussion you guys were all having

1:06:20 ↗ which is how does our part system fit

1:06:23 ↗ and then let's just change the

1:06:25 ↗ classification to fit what with whatever

1:06:27 ↗ we have now I think what we have is

1:06:30 ↗ important but also if 10 acres is the

1:06:32 ↗ number and what we have is an eight a

1:06:34 ↗ five and a four that we're putting in

1:06:36 ↗ that classification then what we have to

1:06:38 ↗ do is justify the function the

1:06:42 ↗ functionality sort of what Jeff was

1:06:44 ↗ talking about is that five acre Park in

1:06:47 ↗ functionally a 10 acre like a 10 acre

1:06:50 ↗ court or it's not because the thing that

1:06:52 ↗ we lose out if we're not honest and use

1:06:55 ↗ classifications that are the same that

1:06:57 ↗ everybody else uses then we don't start

1:06:59 ↗ bringing forward the deficits we have

1:07:02 ↗ and we also don't highlight our ultra

1:07:04 ↗ high points we have super high points in

1:07:07 ↗ our system open space these linear

1:07:10 ↗ Trails all of this sort of thing we have

1:07:12 ↗ a lot of and we've done a lot of good

1:07:13 ↗ things as far as preserving

1:07:16 ↗ land around Issaquah Creek and all this

1:07:19 ↗ kind of thing but we're really sure work

1:07:21 ↗ on active Recreation and we're

1:07:24 ↗ especially short on that moving forward

1:07:26 ↗ and so if we're not honest and if these

1:07:28 ↗ classifications aren't

1:07:30 ↗ what they are but they need to be not

1:07:33 ↗ what they are but what they should be

1:07:34 ↗ and I think there's some little room but

1:07:37 ↗ a pound needs to be about

1:07:39 ↗ on the on the dog park

1:07:41 ↗ I'm going to disagree a little bit with

1:07:43 ↗ Jeff's parting comment about the seven

1:07:45 ↗ to ten acres I think very early on in

1:07:48 ↗ the discussions five years ago we were

1:07:50 ↗ pretty well down to two acres because we

1:07:53 ↗ realized there wasn't anything in the

1:07:54 ↗ city that was going to be seven to ten

1:07:56 ↗ acres and that two acres was kind of the

1:07:59 ↗ number and again this particular

1:08:01 ↗ location was one we kicked out very

1:08:04 ↗ quickly because it's so fun now you know

1:08:08 ↗ it is sort of what it is and so at that

1:08:11 ↗ point this is where we are but we still

1:08:13 ↗ have to be honest about that this

1:08:15 ↗ particular design still bothers me on on

1:08:19 ↗ a couple of levels

1:08:21 ↗ um water bothers me because I think in

1:08:24 ↗ the beginning of the process same would

1:08:26 ↗ go if we were looking at Tibbetts Valley

1:08:28 ↗ Park we need to be looking at does this

1:08:31 ↗ particular piece of land drain is there

1:08:33 ↗ groundwater that comes up and is there

1:08:36 ↗ storm water that comes down on this

1:08:37 ↗ particular property I don't I don't

1:08:40 ↗ really know is in an area of of Issaquah

1:08:44 ↗ where groundwater shouldn't be as an

1:08:47 ↗ issue but for example maybe storm water

1:08:50 ↗ is maybe storm water comes off of Second

1:08:52 ↗ Avenue and so that's important because a

1:08:56 ↗ dog park needs to be dry it needs to be

1:08:58 ↗ dry year round and when I say dry it

1:09:01 ↗ means it needs to drain really well

1:09:02 ↗ Mercer Island's dog park has been

1:09:05 ↗ remodeled it's a magnificent job Mercer

1:09:07 ↗ Island parks deserves a great shout out

1:09:09 ↗ because their dog bark drop is dry in

1:09:12 ↗ the winter I've been in there in

1:09:14 ↗ absolute pouring rain and it can be

1:09:16 ↗ pouring rain and they don't have puddles

1:09:19 ↗ I mean there's water around and the

1:09:21 ↗ minute it stops raining whoosh water is

1:09:23 ↗ gone because one of the things with the

1:09:25 ↗ dog park is really more of a science

1:09:27 ↗ project than a beauty contest at least

1:09:29 ↗ the first part of it you have to meet

1:09:31 ↗ the criteria of a science project first

1:09:33 ↗ and that's one of the reasons I'm not a

1:09:36 ↗ big fan of any sort of wood chips

1:09:38 ↗ because they end up becoming biohazards

1:09:42 ↗ if they're if they're not kept

1:09:44 ↗ nice and dry one of my

1:09:47 ↗ comments about this design is it's it's

1:09:50 ↗ still been you know either this or that

1:09:53 ↗ as far as the surround either being a

1:09:55 ↗ gravel or some kind of path other than

1:09:58 ↗ concrete but looking at the the fiber

1:10:02 ↗ people the fiber and the people that

1:10:04 ↗ make the

1:10:06 ↗ the chips they say You're supposed to

1:10:08 ↗ avoid contamination of this engineered

1:10:11 ↗ wood with any kind of sand gravel mud or

1:10:14 ↗ native soil and if you look I looked

1:10:16 ↗ online at a number of their

1:10:17 ↗ installations and they all have us

1:10:19 ↗ either cement curbing or a sidewalk

1:10:21 ↗ around some parks the cement curving is

1:10:24 ↗ used to plant their fence in so it's

1:10:26 ↗ sort of wall-to-wall some it's a

1:10:29 ↗ separate curb thing in some it's a

1:10:31 ↗ walkway I think this particular Park

1:10:34 ↗ could ought to be a walkway because

1:10:35 ↗ again when you read about this five hour

1:10:37 ↗ product one of the problems is it's hard

1:10:40 ↗ to walk on hard to walk on when it's

1:10:42 ↗ used in around play structures but hard

1:10:45 ↗ to walk on with dog parks and not so

1:10:48 ↗ much for normal people but for senior

1:10:50 ↗ citizens and and people's disabilities

1:10:53 ↗ and that's important because if a dog

1:10:55 ↗ poops into the middle of a park they

1:10:57 ↗ need to be able to go out and get it so

1:10:59 ↗ having actually a sidewalk that went in

1:11:01 ↗ a circle around it which would be

1:11:02 ↗ similar to what Bellevue building is

1:11:04 ↗ Robinswood park has after their remodel

1:11:07 ↗ would make a lot of sense it would make

1:11:10 ↗ it easier for people to move through the

1:11:12 ↗ other thing that another easy comment is

1:11:15 ↗ that or easy fix is that look front

1:11:18 ↗ loading all of everything at that bottom

1:11:21 ↗ entrance creates a situation where when

1:11:23 ↗ people come in they all stand right

1:11:25 ↗ there

1:11:25 ↗ and a lot of people will never walk out

1:11:28 ↗ into the middle if they're walking in

1:11:30 ↗ the mud or they're walking onto the

1:11:32 ↗ surface that's hard to walk on and so

1:11:35 ↗ having that walkway is going to be which

1:11:37 ↗ is going to encourage more circulation

1:11:40 ↗ through the park again if you look at

1:11:42 ↗ Robinswood Park in Bellevue which they

1:11:44 ↗ remodeled they made some nice design

1:11:46 ↗ choices there if you look diagonal on

1:11:49 ↗ your on your design where there's I

1:11:51 ↗ think it's a bench and it's and it's

1:11:53 ↗ where it mentions the uh no across right

1:11:56 ↗ from there right there that's about

1:11:59 ↗ where they have their shelter and an

1:12:01 ↗ easy fix for this park would be move the

1:12:04 ↗ shelter over there and bulge that out

1:12:06 ↗ slightly and if you then had a regular

1:12:09 ↗ walkway you'd at least get it so people

1:12:11 ↗ would walk into the park and some people

1:12:13 ↗ would go to the other end

1:12:15 ↗ um

1:12:16 ↗ and so those are the kinds of little

1:12:19 ↗ things I think would make would make a

1:12:21 ↗ significant difference in in this design

1:12:26 ↗ um he's not here but I'd like to give a

1:12:28 ↗ shout out to Tim because he's brought up

1:12:30 ↗ a lot of great comments about

1:12:33 ↗ um you know dogs owners dog parks and

1:12:37 ↗ he's an experienced dog owner trainer

1:12:39 ↗ and he says he doesn't use dog parts you

1:12:42 ↗ know he and I have gone back and forth

1:12:43 ↗ and we actually agree on on most things

1:12:46 ↗ and I'm a very experienced dog park user

1:12:49 ↗ matter of fact I've been using dog parks

1:12:51 ↗ in this area for about 35 years and I go

1:12:54 ↗ two to three times a week that's over

1:12:56 ↗ 100 times a year and and I've been in

1:13:00 ↗ the Parks my dogs have been sick gotten

1:13:02 ↗ sick in dog parks they've gotten bit

1:13:04 ↗ they've been in fights

1:13:06 ↗ I've been knocked over I've been injured

1:13:09 ↗ I've been bit I've seen all sorts of

1:13:11 ↗ this stuff happening and also you you

1:13:14 ↗ hear about all these things because in

1:13:15 ↗ dog parks because dog parks I should say

1:13:18 ↗ are really people Parks but they're dogs

1:13:21 ↗ there so you're talking most of the time

1:13:23 ↗ you're talking to people so you hear

1:13:25 ↗ about all this sort of thing and so some

1:13:28 ↗ of these design things are the kind of

1:13:30 ↗ things that the more experience you have

1:13:33 ↗ like I wouldn't go to this dog park

1:13:35 ↗ except very rarely because if it doesn't

1:13:38 ↗ drain or if I didn't know it drained and

1:13:41 ↗ if there isn't some circulation then

1:13:43 ↗ then the risks go up there you know dog

1:13:46 ↗ parks

1:13:48 ↗ Tim would say you can't control dog

1:13:50 ↗ owners and you can't control dogs which

1:13:53 ↗ is even the best trained dogs which is

1:13:56 ↗ why he's against going into a dog park

1:13:59 ↗ I agree with that but then there's also

1:14:02 ↗ the design of the dog park and then you

1:14:04 ↗ have this opportunity the the better the

1:14:06 ↗ design the more the the more circulation

1:14:09 ↗ you can get the more separation you can

1:14:11 ↗ get the better you're going to be

1:14:13 ↗ because what if you don't do that what

1:14:15 ↗ happens is if everybody's in a cluster

1:14:17 ↗ excited dogs come in that's when people

1:14:20 ↗ get knocked down that's when you have

1:14:22 ↗ more you know more trouble anyway

1:14:26 ↗ um all in all I hope that you can add

1:14:28 ↗ some of these kinds of things

1:14:30 ↗ I'd really recommend looking at what

1:14:32 ↗ these these fiber people say their

1:14:35 ↗ installation guide is because I think

1:14:37 ↗ that that should be driving some of

1:14:40 ↗ these decisions I think you're you're

1:14:42 ↗ close on some of it but I'd hate to see

1:14:44 ↗ after this all this work that we leave

1:14:48 ↗ out a cement pathway that could be there

1:14:50 ↗ and would make it would make a

1:14:52 ↗ tremendous difference one last quickie

1:14:55 ↗ on the water fountains the clock and

1:14:58 ↗ most of the time in a dog park the water

1:15:00 ↗ park fountains clogged because people

1:15:02 ↗ take the plastic boot bags and and clog

1:15:05 ↗ them because the fountains are designed

1:15:07 ↗ to drain so that again it's The

1:15:09 ↗ Biohazard thing and people

1:15:11 ↗ you know people circumvent that anyway

1:15:14 ↗ and yeah anyway that's enough anyway

1:15:18 ↗ thank you and uh

1:15:20 ↗ welcome Robin

1:15:24 ↗ thank you Corey so that now concludes

1:15:26 ↗ our public comment section and it's open

1:15:30 ↗ for board discussion

1:15:33 ↗ basic questions yeah yeah

1:15:36 ↗ um I agree I I like the idea of having

1:15:38 ↗ paved around as well for all the reasons

1:15:40 ↗ mentioned and all supposed to be in more

1:15:43 ↗ um

1:15:44 ↗ an Ecuador friendly part I also like the

1:15:46 ↗ idea of moving salty amenities around

1:15:49 ↗ the park so you're not getting the

1:15:50 ↗ cluster so agree with you on on both of

1:15:53 ↗ those components

1:15:55 ↗ um I'm curious at the size of this park

1:15:57 ↗ in comparison to what's already there is

1:15:59 ↗ it the same size or is it bigger it's

1:16:02 ↗ it's slightly bigger because it includes

1:16:05 ↗ some of the slope so right now the

1:16:08 ↗ current dog park fencing my mouth it

1:16:12 ↗ also doesn't go all the way to the

1:16:13 ↗ parking lot it kind of goes like where

1:16:16 ↗ the pathway is almost

1:16:22 ↗ maybe like halfway through this small

1:16:24 ↗ dog area so it doesn't extend all the

1:16:26 ↗ way through to the parking and can you

1:16:29 ↗ imagine what the dark brown like circle

1:16:30 ↗ like yeah so those are that is more

1:16:34 ↗ natural mulch area because it's part of

1:16:38 ↗ that sloped area and it's something

1:16:40 ↗ within the fence the dogs

1:16:43 ↗ could be around them

1:16:45 ↗ and the the two side sections have

1:16:48 ↗ existing trees that would be staying

1:16:52 ↗ there's some questions around drainage

1:16:54 ↗ is there any reason we think that's a

1:16:56 ↗ high risk in this space from the work

1:16:58 ↗ that you've all have done

1:17:05 ↗ but like is there anything specific to

1:17:07 ↗ the site that is making it a higher or

1:17:10 ↗ lower as we've seen it I mean it lived a

1:17:14 ↗ life as a skate park it's now lived a

1:17:17 ↗ life as a pop-up dog park for for a

1:17:20 ↗ couple of Seasons now

1:17:22 ↗ um it drains pretty well we've not seen

1:17:25 ↗ a massive uh puddling issue um it's

1:17:30 ↗ certainly something we're going to want

1:17:31 ↗ to pay attention to in the final design

1:17:33 ↗ and something we'll want to pay

1:17:35 ↗ attention to what we think the the

1:17:37 ↗ technical document report will be really

1:17:40 ↗ really informative on some of those

1:17:43 ↗ um some of those drainage questions and

1:17:47 ↗ then question on a little tiny Circle

1:17:52 ↗ um yes so there there are two that are

1:17:57 ↗ massive like not where it is

1:18:00 ↗ um there are two that are water stations

1:18:03 ↗ and then to the the ones that are here

1:18:05 ↗ by the fencing

1:18:07 ↗ um are uh waste stations and so and

1:18:11 ↗ there's also a waste Station over by the

1:18:15 ↗ bench

1:18:16 ↗ um and I mean these aren't like

1:18:18 ↗ exactly where everything is going to go

1:18:21 ↗ but the options about them throughout

1:18:24 ↗ my thing is don't she thought on like

1:18:26 ↗ let's have enough weight stations yeah

1:18:30 ↗ and disperse accordingly and I would

1:18:32 ↗ Echo Corey a great comment I think the

1:18:35 ↗ idea of dispersing the shelter and shade

1:18:37 ↗ and other things to encourage

1:18:40 ↗ it's encouraged not congregating all in

1:18:43 ↗ one place

1:18:44 ↗ um this is really good and then lastly I

1:18:47 ↗ think there was you know

1:18:48 ↗ oh we wanted the big Park and is this

1:18:50 ↗ really going to work and I think what

1:18:51 ↗ was really you know sort of the upside

1:18:54 ↗ of the fact that we had to sort of move

1:18:56 ↗ to a different plan that kind of reminds

1:18:58 ↗ me I work with InDesign when you have to

1:19:00 ↗ iterate and try things and so the fact

1:19:01 ↗ we've been able to like iterate and try

1:19:04 ↗ these different parks and see where the

1:19:05 ↗ usage are I think that really at least

1:19:07 ↗ for me helps give me more confidence in

1:19:09 ↗ this part to say like okay we've tried

1:19:11 ↗ the park in three or four different

1:19:12 ↗ areas you know we've had good success

1:19:15 ↗ with this one so far making it a little

1:19:17 ↗ more permanent almost gave it like a

1:19:18 ↗ kind of a testing ground before we go

1:19:20 ↗ final so

1:19:21 ↗ um as long as we're taking the learnings

1:19:23 ↗ from Authority there which sounds like

1:19:25 ↗ you are the community outreach um that

1:19:27 ↗ helps give you more confidence

1:19:30 ↗ yeah I'll um

1:19:32 ↗ just a couple notes is uh I took my

1:19:35 ↗ family to go see the troll recently

1:19:37 ↗ um and we walked by the dog park in

1:19:40 ↗ action

1:19:41 ↗ um and I just stopped and I observed for

1:19:43 ↗ about 10 minutes just to kind of get

1:19:44 ↗ understanding I don't know dogs

1:19:46 ↗ um I don't I've never been to a dog park

1:19:48 ↗ so I want to kind of observe and

1:19:50 ↗ understand

1:19:51 ↗ um and I will say the entire time I was

1:19:54 ↗ there there's probably between three and

1:19:56 ↗ eight dogs dog owners in

1:19:58 ↗ um and they actually were all

1:20:00 ↗ congregated at the top with that for you

1:20:03 ↗ to be called out putting a shelter

1:20:05 ↗ um so I was kind of surprised by that as

1:20:08 ↗ everyone was kind of naturally just up

1:20:10 ↗ in the I see what we call it the top

1:20:12 ↗ um the one observation I I would say is

1:20:15 ↗ it was the garbage cans were so smelly

1:20:18 ↗ um from waste being put in them and on a

1:20:22 ↗ day when there was probably a hundred

1:20:26 ↗ people in line to see the troll and it

1:20:29 ↗ was very very busy and it was a really

1:20:30 ↗ cool Community thing to see the first

1:20:32 ↗ first thing you got walking by the

1:20:34 ↗ patrol was just a giant loft of

1:20:38 ↗ smell so kind of on that along those

1:20:42 ↗ lines of additional receptacles but

1:20:45 ↗ eating a plan to

1:20:47 ↗ keep those cleaned on the regular just

1:20:51 ↗ as already noted the troll is such a

1:20:53 ↗ cool feature and hope to have that for a

1:20:56 ↗ long time the first thing you're getting

1:20:58 ↗ greeted with to go see it for us

1:21:01 ↗ activating all these amenities and

1:21:03 ↗ taking care of the amenities and making

1:21:05 ↗ sure yeah it's

1:21:08 ↗ active it was cool to see in action can

1:21:10 ↗ I slip in one very quickly on thank you

1:21:13 ↗ very much

1:21:15 ↗ on his comment about the Cooper

1:21:18 ↗ spectacles one thing you really need is

1:21:21 ↗ nice garbage can receptacles because

1:21:22 ↗ people come in with their latte cups and

1:21:25 ↗ all that and clog up the poop

1:21:26 ↗ receptacles

1:21:28 ↗ yeah yeah that's a good point yeah which

1:21:31 ↗ to that comment we've actually talked

1:21:33 ↗ about that with the amount of visitors

1:21:35 ↗ that are coming to that area because of

1:21:36 ↗ the troll we have talked about

1:21:38 ↗ additional tracks

1:21:41 ↗ so yeah we are monitoring and watching

1:21:45 ↗ yeah making sure that they can be

1:21:47 ↗ helpful comments about dog park planning

1:21:50 ↗ so you know Corey's comments about uh

1:21:53 ↗ some of these other parks that have had

1:21:56 ↗ remodels and maybe remodels for lessons

1:21:58 ↗ I don't know if we've been able to uh

1:22:01 ↗ direct our Consultants to maybe do some

1:22:05 ↗ interviews or yeah

1:22:07 ↗ glean the Lessons Learned some lessons

1:22:09 ↗ learned um

1:22:11 ↗ larger trash receptacles trash

1:22:13 ↗ receptacles with lids that close or

1:22:16 ↗ something like you know things like that

1:22:17 ↗ that might help and you know I have

1:22:21 ↗ I own dogs I've gone to dog park here

1:22:23 ↗ and in other areas other states

1:22:27 ↗ um they

1:22:30 ↗ there will always be you know a few

1:22:32 ↗ problem people and pets or whatever the

1:22:34 ↗ things that just don't work out but by

1:22:36 ↗ and large people do seem to

1:22:38 ↗ self-regulate like if it's a very

1:22:40 ↗ crowded Park they'll go somewhere else

1:22:43 ↗ or not go and sort of self filter that

1:22:47 ↗ way but given the community response you

1:22:50 ↗ know in the past years about uh you know

1:22:54 ↗ desire for dog park and then also just

1:22:57 ↗ from all the people I've heard about

1:22:59 ↗ with the Tibbetts dog park and that that

1:23:02 ↗ being kind of uh tabled for time being

1:23:06 ↗ um

1:23:06 ↗ I think there's a tremendous interest in

1:23:09 ↗ these and then also seeing you know the

1:23:10 ↗ people uh living in the

1:23:13 ↗ relatively speaking the newer apartments

1:23:15 ↗ and how many of them are dog owners and

1:23:17 ↗ really need in a place to go

1:23:21 ↗ um you know I think we have to proceed

1:23:22 ↗ and then you know we think there are a

1:23:25 ↗ lot of opportunities and Corey's

1:23:26 ↗ mentioned them you know thank you for us

1:23:29 ↗ to learn from other people's mistakes

1:23:30 ↗ and other jurisdictions mistakes

1:23:33 ↗ um but I don't see why there's any

1:23:35 ↗ reason why we can't

1:23:36 ↗ proceed with this one and make it a

1:23:38 ↗ successful part

1:23:40 ↗ you think I would just add on that like

1:23:42 ↗ if the you know dispersed Parks I think

1:23:44 ↗ to your point on all the different

1:23:46 ↗ um you know High occupancy buildings are

1:23:49 ↗ going up I think that's a more Equitable

1:23:51 ↗ response as well I have more dispersed

1:23:53 ↗ Parts throughout the community so

1:23:55 ↗ another one of those sort of happy

1:23:57 ↗ accidents from

1:23:58 ↗ original plan

1:24:02 ↗ everything back yeah

1:24:04 ↗ situation

1:24:10 ↗ am I on okay

1:24:12 ↗ um just a couple things yeah you know I

1:24:14 ↗ read Connie's email about environmental

1:24:17 ↗ concerns and I also read The Watershed

1:24:20 ↗ report which I think addresses some of

1:24:22 ↗ them I didn't really compare the two to

1:24:24 ↗ see if it addresses all of them but

1:24:26 ↗ something to consider because that there

1:24:28 ↗ is

1:24:28 ↗ you know that ditch and water issues

1:24:31 ↗ there I assume that permitting will

1:24:33 ↗ flush that out but just want to point

1:24:36 ↗ out that

1:24:37 ↗ uh you know certainly that needs to be

1:24:39 ↗ addressed

1:24:40 ↗ um

1:24:40 ↗ I'm curious to know about how wood

1:24:43 ↗ fencing was was uh selected as the final

1:24:48 ↗ um

1:24:49 ↗ you know my only concern with that is

1:24:51 ↗ maintenance uh and Longevity and there

1:24:54 ↗ may be other Alternatives that would

1:24:56 ↗ um be better but I don't know whether or

1:24:59 ↗ not cost was maybe the reason why wood

1:25:01 ↗ fencing was uh was determined to be the

1:25:05 ↗ best

1:25:06 ↗ uh and be curious to know how that

1:25:09 ↗ arrived at as the best

1:25:12 ↗ um and I'm all in favor of a dog

1:25:14 ↗ Memorial feature just to throw that out

1:25:17 ↗ there as uh I I think that would be a

1:25:19 ↗ good feature to add uh you know for the

1:25:22 ↗ people that visit and um I just think

1:25:26 ↗ that would be a nice amenity for the for

1:25:28 ↗ the dog part

1:25:30 ↗ thanks

1:25:33 ↗ thanks Brad to your to your first point

1:25:35 ↗ what I was saying earlier about the the

1:25:37 ↗ technical document review being our

1:25:39 ↗ first step into permitting

1:25:41 ↗ it's intended to do that very thing Brad

1:25:43 ↗ is we too as the applicant want we just

1:25:46 ↗ want to confirm Clarity uh here's what

1:25:49 ↗ we you know heard from our Wetland

1:25:50 ↗ consultant here's you know some of the

1:25:53 ↗ other information we're seeing

1:25:55 ↗ um that will allow us to get clarity

1:25:57 ↗ from planning as to how we need to move

1:26:00 ↗ forward with

1:26:02 ↗ um

1:26:04 ↗ yeah with those those reports

1:26:07 ↗ uh to your point about uh wood fencing

1:26:10 ↗ um

1:26:11 ↗ yeah I I think a mix uh really I think

1:26:15 ↗ um Community was pretty clear the the

1:26:18 ↗ aesthetic of wood was rated really

1:26:20 ↗ really high

1:26:22 ↗ um like wood fencing done well and and

1:26:24 ↗ all that Robin speak to this because I'm

1:26:26 ↗ I'm I only play a landscape architect on

1:26:29 ↗ TV about it not a real one

1:26:32 ↗ um but yeah how a wood fence is

1:26:35 ↗ installed how you treat the base of it

1:26:37 ↗ really goes a long ways to its longevity

1:26:42 ↗ this would be a you know six by six this

1:26:45 ↗ would be a a pretty

1:26:48 ↗ um a pretty bulky not bulky but um

1:26:51 ↗ industrial size dog park that is not

1:26:54 ↗ going to be easy to sort of tip over

1:26:58 ↗ certainly something we'll need to

1:27:00 ↗ maintain but the longevity of these

1:27:02 ↗ fences relative to cost

1:27:05 ↗ um it's really it's pretty quite cost

1:27:08 ↗ effective

1:27:10 ↗ in many ways so

1:27:12 ↗ Robin please anything to add yeah no

1:27:15 ↗ we've actually been doing a lot of back

1:27:17 ↗ and forth as operations team also to see

1:27:20 ↗ what's helpful for them when it comes to

1:27:23 ↗ maintenance um they've gotten some great

1:27:25 ↗ input again it comes back to detailing

1:27:29 ↗ that fence and detailing all these

1:27:31 ↗ little connection pieces they're really

1:27:32 ↗ going to make a difference for the

1:27:34 ↗ make it better and more sustainable long

1:27:37 ↗ term or easier to replace faster to

1:27:39 ↗ replace which you know kind of equates

1:27:42 ↗ to less expensive yeah well we look at

1:27:44 ↗ sort of the area and proximity that dog

1:27:46 ↗ park too you know within the trees along

1:27:49 ↗ the Rainier Trail sort of a Gateway

1:27:51 ↗ amenity coming from the community center

1:27:53 ↗ into sort of that forested area of the

1:27:55 ↗ ringer Trail having a offense aesthetic

1:27:59 ↗ that feels agrarian right it feels like

1:28:02 ↗ it fits sort of into that um

1:28:05 ↗ into that setting right

1:28:11 ↗ there thanks for that Jeff

1:28:14 ↗ letting considerations

1:28:16 ↗ um

1:28:17 ↗ lighting considerations besides the

1:28:19 ↗ street street lights that are already

1:28:21 ↗ there in terms of lighting the dog park

1:28:23 ↗ no not at this time

1:28:26 ↗ planning to have a

1:28:28 ↗ lighted lighted dog park there

1:28:33 ↗ I think we want to again you know this

1:28:36 ↗ would be our first the city's first

1:28:38 ↗ permanent dog park and sort of this

1:28:40 ↗ dispersed idea that we've talked about

1:28:44 ↗ um I'll say it again Tibbetts Valley

1:28:45 ↗ Park you know that is a park that still

1:28:48 ↗ needs to be it's a community park that

1:28:51 ↗ really needs to be reimagined and

1:28:55 ↗ rethought and the idea of a dog park

1:28:57 ↗ being an amenity at tippus Valley Park

1:28:59 ↗ is still a high priority and will be a

1:29:03 ↗ part of that part of that conversation

1:29:06 ↗ going forward so

1:29:08 ↗ um I I think until we

1:29:12 ↗ really see how our Park system is

1:29:14 ↗ functioning how our community wants to

1:29:16 ↗ use it if there's a real need for those

1:29:20 ↗ types of evening activities you know we

1:29:22 ↗ would consider it but at this time it

1:29:24 ↗ doesn't feel like there's a high enough

1:29:26 ↗ need for for that

1:29:29 ↗ um Title 18 also has a dark skies policy

1:29:32 ↗ in it so you have to be really really

1:29:34 ↗ smart about how we add lighting into our

1:29:38 ↗ Park system or lighting any amenities

1:29:46 ↗ foreign

1:29:50 ↗ so this item on the agenda is an action

1:29:54 ↗ has an action element so I think

1:29:57 ↗ basically you know

1:29:59 ↗ for scheduled reasons

1:30:02 ↗ Park staff is looking to us to you know

1:30:05 ↗ to indicate whether we support

1:30:07 ↗ proceeding pursuing with this or

1:30:09 ↗ proceeding with it or not

1:30:11 ↗ so I don't know if anybody wants to make

1:30:13 ↗ a motion

1:30:18 ↗ to support the yes conceptual design and

1:30:21 ↗ moving forward

1:30:23 ↗ anyone else a second emotion

1:30:27 ↗ any additional discussion about that

1:30:33 ↗ we take a vote all in favor

1:30:43 ↗ yeah I'm not sure if I am supposed to do

1:30:46 ↗ oh actually yeah you don't need to

1:30:47 ↗ because we've got him but you can if you

1:30:49 ↗ want it

1:30:54 ↗ foreign

1:31:01 ↗ [Music]

1:31:25 ↗ well and just to clarify as as we

1:31:28 ↗ proceed and and again appreciate that

1:31:30 ↗ that affirmative

1:31:32 ↗ um

1:31:33 ↗ uh vote

1:31:36 ↗ um more work ahead right so next step

1:31:38 ↗ for us is the technical document review

1:31:40 ↗ that's going to inform a lot in terms of

1:31:42 ↗ finalizing the design obviously as we go

1:31:45 ↗ through the permitting process that too

1:31:48 ↗ um you know informs not only timing but

1:31:51 ↗ um some of the details as well but um

1:31:54 ↗ thank you we'll uh

1:31:56 ↗ transition to that to that next step

1:32:01 ↗ clarify sorry all three alternates voted

1:32:04 ↗ for that and they all ready

1:32:07 ↗ so thanks

1:32:13 ↗ the next item then is the chairperson

1:32:17 ↗ report

1:32:18 ↗ which is mine and I don't

1:32:21 ↗ have too much we have I guess there's a

1:32:25 ↗ continuation of something that brought

1:32:27 ↗ up last time which is that we're looking

1:32:29 ↗ at having a meeting of some sort maybe

1:32:32 ↗ even a round table type meeting at a

1:32:35 ↗ different location

1:32:36 ↗ where we invite

1:32:39 ↗ part users uh Affiliated other groups so

1:32:45 ↗ from all perspectives basically you know

1:32:47 ↗ points of contact for all of our

1:32:49 ↗ population users so you know that might

1:32:53 ↗ be like the president of little league

1:32:55 ↗ but also you know the the squads and

1:32:59 ↗ trails and fish and and various

1:33:01 ↗ different groups so that we're really

1:33:03 ↗ getting a cross-section and giving them

1:33:06 ↗ a chance to

1:33:07 ↗ reconnect with Park Board

1:33:10 ↗ remind them that there are these

1:33:12 ↗ meetings that are

1:33:14 ↗ you know advertised but we really get

1:33:17 ↗ you know just a few people to attend

1:33:19 ↗ and maybe see if

1:33:22 ↗ they start recognizing some other

1:33:25 ↗ Mutual interests and and how they all uh

1:33:29 ↗ interact with each other

1:33:31 ↗ um so that's something we're looking at

1:33:33 ↗ doing and we'll continue to if you have

1:33:36 ↗ suggestions of people that groups that

1:33:39 ↗ we should reach out to please send them

1:33:41 ↗ to me let me know so that

1:33:43 ↗ I'm not forgetting about someone as we

1:33:45 ↗ build this list I was just thinking

1:33:46 ↗ Chris um over the summer we did some of

1:33:49 ↗ those sessions and I can't remember

1:33:51 ↗ exactly how it was broken out and I

1:33:53 ↗ think there was multiple but I had

1:33:54 ↗ participated in one of them and there

1:33:56 ↗ was a couple of representatives from

1:33:58 ↗ Little League somebody from a softball

1:34:00 ↗ league the new athletic director from

1:34:01 ↗ Issaquah High School it was a really

1:34:03 ↗ cool group and lots of great

1:34:05 ↗ conversation and so I think that there's

1:34:08 ↗ with that breakout session there's

1:34:10 ↗ probably a seed group of people that

1:34:13 ↗ would love to like they all seem really

1:34:15 ↗ excited to be invited to those those ad

1:34:19 ↗ hoc conversations and I'm sure it would

1:34:22 ↗ be a great roster for for some type of

1:34:24 ↗ follow-up or ongoing engagement with

1:34:26 ↗ them yeah and I think what you just

1:34:28 ↗ described is exactly the intent to

1:34:31 ↗ help these different people Network and

1:34:35 ↗ interact and and realize

1:34:38 ↗ what we let the parks system offers and

1:34:41 ↗ how they interact with it how they can

1:34:42 ↗ support it and and also advocate for

1:34:45 ↗ their particular interests and groups

1:34:50 ↗ it's a great time you're right the focus

1:34:52 ↗ group the focus group discussions sort

1:34:54 ↗ of kicking out the park plan we had a

1:34:56 ↗ sort of an athletic group Summit and a

1:34:58 ↗ trails in open space Summit and uh

1:35:01 ↗ um it really led to some some really

1:35:03 ↗ cool conversation Chris if you know as

1:35:07 ↗ we've talked a little bit about this it

1:35:09 ↗ feels like almost a park user Summit

1:35:11 ↗ right where it's like how do we invite

1:35:14 ↗ those groups and just let's have a

1:35:16 ↗ collective conversation about uh the

1:35:19 ↗ system right I think part of it is too

1:35:21 ↗ like closing that link to an extent or

1:35:23 ↗ building on those conversations so it's

1:35:25 ↗ not like inviting the same people to the

1:35:28 ↗ table and feeling like they have to

1:35:30 ↗ rehash the same thing again but what can

1:35:32 ↗ we do to make them feel like okay we

1:35:34 ↗ have this Focus through this is what we

1:35:37 ↗ heard now this is the next step and in

1:35:39 ↗ how we're applying that feedback and

1:35:41 ↗ working it into some plans

1:35:43 ↗ um

1:35:44 ↗ so it doesn't just feel like you're

1:35:46 ↗ you're having the same conversations

1:35:47 ↗ again and again something Chris has

1:35:50 ↗ chair you've dreamed about doing this

1:35:51 ↗ for a while now and happy happy to to to

1:35:54 ↗ work with you and and let's make it a

1:35:58 ↗ reality yeah and I think another part of

1:36:00 ↗ it just to

1:36:01 ↗ extrapolate is you know I had some

1:36:03 ↗ experience with the friends like

1:36:05 ↗ Sammamish State Park and

1:36:08 ↗ um you know that's a smaller version of

1:36:10 ↗ what we are and it's a part of what we

1:36:12 ↗ are uh and you have these many different

1:36:15 ↗ users but really when you invite people

1:36:17 ↗ to participate

1:36:21 ↗ many of them realize that they are not

1:36:23 ↗ just you know single issue or single use

1:36:25 ↗ users there they have kids playing

1:36:28 ↗ sports but they like to go you know walk

1:36:30 ↗ the trails or they you know

1:36:32 ↗ our bird watchers or you know there's

1:36:34 ↗ many different interests and I think

1:36:36 ↗ it's important for people to find that

1:36:37 ↗ Common Ground as opposed to

1:36:40 ↗ uh

1:36:42 ↗ isolation greeting you know adversarial

1:36:45 ↗ perspectives

1:36:46 ↗ I think as we think about that group too

1:36:49 ↗ we spend a lot of time thinking about

1:36:50 ↗ all of our outdoor amenities but really

1:36:52 ↗ making sure we're getting the groups

1:36:53 ↗ through the indoor right so whether it's

1:36:55 ↗ the rec basketball coaches or The Pick

1:36:58 ↗ of all people or people who use the

1:37:00 ↗ fitness center or the pool like I think

1:37:03 ↗ making sure that we're you know

1:37:06 ↗ checking off those sort of recreation

1:37:08 ↗ amenities as well we were kind of

1:37:10 ↗ creating that list

1:37:12 ↗ um

1:37:13 ↗ please email me your suggested

1:37:17 ↗ and this may happen in January or

1:37:20 ↗ February yeah because like first quarter

1:37:23 ↗ we've talked I know we've brainstorm you

1:37:25 ↗ know you know do we hostess at the

1:37:26 ↗ Pickering barn and we're somewhere big

1:37:30 ↗ right that can be uh you know

1:37:32 ↗ breakout sessions and other just

1:37:34 ↗ networking opportunities

1:37:42 ↗ so that's all I have

1:37:44 ↗ on that

1:37:46 ↗ we'll get back to you

1:37:48 ↗ all right uh report for me uh one if you

1:37:52 ↗ don't mind sharing screen I'm sorry I

1:37:55 ↗ will a couple things that were attached

1:37:58 ↗ uh to the agenda you'll see

1:38:00 ↗ um the work plan sort of the are working

1:38:03 ↗ um

1:38:04 ↗ um Park board agenda that we've kept

1:38:06 ↗ going we've included that in the agenda

1:38:08 ↗ if you want to take a look at it thank

1:38:10 ↗ you asante's a nice job of really

1:38:13 ↗ documenting the topics we've talked

1:38:16 ↗ about in the prior months as you look

1:38:18 ↗ ahead at that October and November we

1:38:21 ↗ have some pretty big topics coming up

1:38:24 ↗ um a couple we've already touched on

1:38:25 ↗ already with the goals and policies

1:38:27 ↗ conversation

1:38:28 ↗ um coming up both of those months

1:38:30 ↗ or also plan Dan Hintz Urban Forest

1:38:33 ↗ Supervisor has been hard at work

1:38:35 ↗ beginning to frame up

1:38:38 ↗ um

1:38:39 ↗ the the building blocks for an urban

1:38:42 ↗ Forest management plan I know that

1:38:44 ↗ there's plans for getting the ad hoc

1:38:46 ↗ group together before that October

1:38:48 ↗ meeting we'd like Dan to come at the to

1:38:50 ↗ the October Park board meeting and give

1:38:52 ↗ an overview of the approach for the

1:38:55 ↗ urban Forest management plan and what

1:38:56 ↗ that's going to mean and what that's

1:38:57 ↗ going to entail also kicking off and you

1:39:01 ↗ might remember from our conversations

1:39:02 ↗ early in the first quarter of this year

1:39:05 ↗ really wanting to prioritize giving a

1:39:09 ↗ review and an update a long needed

1:39:11 ↗ update of the hair Heritage tree program

1:39:13 ↗ so Dan will come in October and touch on

1:39:15 ↗ both of those thank you enough Steve

1:39:18 ↗ Pereira had some of those in his

1:39:21 ↗ audience comment as well so Steve if

1:39:24 ↗ you're still there October will be a a

1:39:27 ↗ meeting you'll probably be interested in

1:39:29 ↗ paying attention to or attending

1:39:33 ↗ other

1:39:35 ↗ s wanted to touch on I had the chance to

1:39:37 ↗ provide an update to city council last

1:39:39 ↗ Monday September 18th

1:39:42 ↗ last couple years now we've done this

1:39:44 ↗ and just trying to you know give an

1:39:46 ↗ update and some highlights of our busy

1:39:49 ↗ work plan within the department I

1:39:53 ↗ included that in the

1:39:56 ↗ in the agenda a chance for you to take a

1:39:58 ↗ look at

1:40:00 ↗ I can sort of cursory go through these

1:40:03 ↗ slides I don't intend to dive deep into

1:40:06 ↗ the details unless you want to or I

1:40:08 ↗ really open up for for questions but I

1:40:10 ↗ really want to say and it was a great

1:40:12 ↗ opportunity to share with Council and

1:40:14 ↗ Community

1:40:16 ↗ it really is an honor to represent and

1:40:20 ↗ work with such a diverse group of

1:40:22 ↗ Professionals in this department

1:40:23 ↗ we get a lot of work done and it's done

1:40:27 ↗ through some really talented

1:40:29 ↗ really

1:40:31 ↗ um

1:40:31 ↗ service-minded staff

1:40:34 ↗ um and and they do great work and so

1:40:36 ↗ this was a chance to just walk through

1:40:39 ↗ you know our department is really

1:40:40 ↗ comprised of five key teams five key

1:40:43 ↗ work groups Recreation

1:40:46 ↗ Human Services Arts Park planning and

1:40:51 ↗ development and park operations are

1:40:54 ↗ really our five key divisions and so

1:40:57 ↗ doing a quick walk through all five of

1:41:00 ↗ those within the recreation group as you

1:41:02 ↗ know they oversee both the community

1:41:05 ↗ center and the senior center as well as

1:41:07 ↗ the pool and all of our functions at the

1:41:10 ↗ Pickering Barn an amazing summer that

1:41:12 ↗ the team put together

1:41:14 ↗ 880 campers over nine weeks of our base

1:41:18 ↗ summer camps add on to that another 1200

1:41:21 ↗ campers through a wide variety of Sports

1:41:24 ↗ Camps that we offer many of those

1:41:27 ↗ through partnered agencies

1:41:30 ↗ um Cali is our new recreation

1:41:32 ↗ coordinator she's come on board as our

1:41:35 ↗ adaptive Recreation coordinator so

1:41:38 ↗ um adaptive Recreation is back in

1:41:40 ↗ abundance uh with with trips and

1:41:42 ↗ programs as well as Special Olympics

1:41:45 ↗ teams concerts on the green we're a huge

1:41:48 ↗ huge well-attended event we had to

1:41:51 ↗ cancel the 8th due to rain but even with

1:41:54 ↗ the seven we easily had over 8 000

1:41:57 ↗ attendees easily average over 100

1:42:00 ↗ easily averaging over a thousand

1:42:03 ↗ attendees for each

1:42:05 ↗ the senior center two very busy time not

1:42:09 ↗ only with the indoor programs and

1:42:11 ↗ programming and providing lunch five

1:42:12 ↗ days a week

1:42:14 ↗ but a great portfolio of trips and Hikes

1:42:17 ↗ that seniors are able to get out and and

1:42:20 ↗ enjoy

1:42:23 ↗ not to be outdone

1:42:25 ↗ um our pool I know a number of you go to

1:42:28 ↗ the pool regularly that is a popular

1:42:29 ↗ place this is a hop in place both in

1:42:33 ↗ terms of community use our lessons

1:42:35 ↗ program summer session alone had almost

1:42:38 ↗ a thousand participants in it

1:42:41 ↗ the farmers market and all the

1:42:43 ↗ activities both our rentals at the

1:42:45 ↗ Pickering barn but the farmers market a

1:42:48 ↗ few fun data points to share with with

1:42:50 ↗ Council and you all we averaged 73

1:42:53 ↗ vendors each Saturday over 3 500

1:42:57 ↗ Shoppers each Saturday

1:42:59 ↗ Kelley Diane who's in the upper left

1:43:02 ↗ there with the nice shades it's just

1:43:05 ↗ done an amazing job of managing uh the

1:43:08 ↗ market to think that we surpassed our

1:43:11 ↗ yield year-to-date sales record

1:43:14 ↗ on August 31st was pretty impressive at

1:43:18 ↗ 1.4 million so that doesn't include any

1:43:20 ↗ of our our summer or our fall sales

1:43:23 ↗ an amazing team of volunteers and staff

1:43:27 ↗ that helped make that market happen if

1:43:28 ↗ you haven't been

1:43:30 ↗ this summer this next Saturday September

1:43:32 ↗ 30th is the last last Market day until

1:43:35 ↗ we close down for the season but uh a

1:43:39 ↗ great season and all and Kelly Diane is

1:43:41 ↗ a bit of a star and recognized by 425

1:43:44 ↗ magazine as one of the 40 under 40 in

1:43:47 ↗ the hospitality category

1:43:50 ↗ as I told Council there's not a lot that

1:43:52 ↗ can a lot of people that can rock

1:43:54 ↗ um pink sunglasses but tell Dan can she

1:43:58 ↗ she owns it

1:44:01 ↗ transitioning to Arts Amy dukes and our

1:44:05 ↗ Arts manager and her work with the Arts

1:44:08 ↗ commission

1:44:09 ↗ very successful chalk art festival

1:44:12 ↗ over 450 participants if you've ever

1:44:16 ↗ seen that or wondered why the Rainier

1:44:18 ↗ Trail in front of the community center

1:44:19 ↗ heading down to City Hall South has all

1:44:22 ↗ those colors for the for for the last

1:44:24 ↗ weeks of Summer that's remnants from the

1:44:27 ↗ chalk art festival

1:44:28 ↗ Shakespeare in the park was a huge hit

1:44:30 ↗ wooden o is the theater group out of

1:44:33 ↗ Seattle that does those they did The

1:44:36 ↗ Tempest this year to uh

1:44:38 ↗ a little over 300 people attended that

1:44:41 ↗ RX commission does a lot of Grant

1:44:43 ↗ programs we've done a little twist in

1:44:46 ↗ how we're providing grants and really

1:44:48 ↗ wanted to emphasize grants for arts in

1:44:51 ↗ schools and Issaquah based schools

1:44:54 ↗ um and then last but certainly not least

1:44:56 ↗ we welcome the Jacob two trees to

1:44:59 ↗ Issaquah on September 1st uh Jacob was

1:45:02 ↗ was unveiled uh down by the Rainier

1:45:05 ↗ Trail

1:45:06 ↗ um if you haven't had a chance to go

1:45:08 ↗ meet Jacob please do

1:45:10 ↗ um it's been

1:45:12 ↗ um a real successful art installation

1:45:14 ↗ and thank you Brad for your words I

1:45:17 ↗ think what has been important to Amy and

1:45:18 ↗ important to

1:45:20 ↗ uh really our thoughts about arts and

1:45:22 ↗ how Arts tells our story in the Parks

1:45:25 ↗ um uh we we want to do art in a way that

1:45:27 ↗ is thoughtful and and speaks to who we

1:45:30 ↗ are as Issaquah um

1:45:31 ↗ a Danish artist you wouldn't think

1:45:33 ↗ necessarily speaks to to Issaquah but

1:45:36 ↗ his goals for sustainability for using

1:45:39 ↗ recycled materials is a real priority

1:45:42 ↗ for us that Thomas worked closely with

1:45:43 ↗ the Snoqualmie tribe which he did

1:45:46 ↗ which was just great to see that

1:45:49 ↗ cultural collaboration come together

1:45:56 ↗ the Human Services team not something we

1:45:59 ↗ talk about a lot here with the Parks

1:46:01 ↗ Board but there's such a key part of

1:46:02 ↗ what we do as a department the Human

1:46:05 ↗ Services Commission obviously oversees a

1:46:07 ↗ lot of this work if you didn't know we

1:46:10 ↗ opened up this summer um issaquah's

1:46:12 ↗ first

1:46:13 ↗ shelter serving those that are that are

1:46:16 ↗ homeless this is not a typical

1:46:18 ↗ traditional congregate shelter but

1:46:20 ↗ really more of a what we're calling an

1:46:24 ↗ emergency housing model

1:46:25 ↗ we've rented 12 rooms at Motel 6 for the

1:46:30 ↗ full year and are utilizing those rooms

1:46:33 ↗ to

1:46:37 ↗ have customers come and and be housed

1:46:43 ↗ under a very

1:46:45 ↗ focused agreement that those individuals

1:46:48 ↗ are working on eight really key areas

1:46:50 ↗ and that that housing model is really

1:46:52 ↗ helping transition that individual from

1:46:56 ↗ um homelessness to permanent housing and

1:46:59 ↗ so we really are excited about launching

1:47:02 ↗ that and seeing

1:47:04 ↗ how outcomes can really begin to or we

1:47:09 ↗ can really begin to create some positive

1:47:11 ↗ outcomes with with individuals who are

1:47:13 ↗ taking part of that program a really

1:47:15 ↗ impressive team of professionals that

1:47:17 ↗ our Human Services team

1:47:22 ↗ we also like to take advantage what the

1:47:24 ↗ last bullet there you see we the Human

1:47:27 ↗ Services team hosted a community

1:47:28 ↗ resource Fair uh really focused on kids

1:47:32 ↗ um while we did the trunk Art Festival

1:47:34 ↗ so how can we take some of our events

1:47:37 ↗ um and piggyback and collaborate in a

1:47:40 ↗ way and really meeting our residents in

1:47:43 ↗ some fun new ways

1:47:47 ↗ Park Ops team has has been really really

1:47:50 ↗ busy this spring and summer as they

1:47:52 ↗ always are

1:47:53 ↗ um Rick still our park operations

1:47:55 ↗ manager who came on board a few years

1:47:57 ↗ ago as you recall we've really been able

1:47:59 ↗ to organize our park operations team in

1:48:02 ↗ a very new way and we're really

1:48:03 ↗ beginning to

1:48:04 ↗ some terrific outcomes to that

1:48:07 ↗ organization structure

1:48:09 ↗ some fun facts about the yard that we

1:48:12 ↗ maintain for All For You residents it's

1:48:14 ↗ about 52 Acres of turf that we mow if

1:48:18 ↗ you look add up all of our Landscaping

1:48:21 ↗ beds that we

1:48:22 ↗ Ed and plants and maintain it's about

1:48:25 ↗ seven acres of landscaping beds alone

1:48:28 ↗ this summer alone 12 000 bags of trash

1:48:31 ↗ were collected a hundred thousand doggie

1:48:34 ↗ bags were provided and 37

1:48:37 ↗ stations throughout our full system so

1:48:41 ↗ those are you know doggy bag stations in

1:48:43 ↗ our parks and along our Trails picnic

1:48:46 ↗ shelters remain immensely popular here

1:48:48 ↗ in in Issaquah as we're looking at

1:48:50 ↗ adding a few others through some of our

1:48:52 ↗ Park projects over 240 shelter rentals

1:48:56 ↗ that we supported through the summer

1:48:58 ↗ months I mentioned earlier Dan and his

1:49:00 ↗ work with Urban Forest management plan

1:49:02 ↗ kicking off this summer really excited

1:49:04 ↗ to see those outcomes

1:49:05 ↗ through our partnered work through our

1:49:08 ↗ contracted work through our own work on

1:49:10 ↗ over 22 000 trees have been planted in

1:49:12 ↗ our city parks in open space this year

1:49:15 ↗ today so again having really looking at

1:49:19 ↗ our Urban Forest understanding um even

1:49:23 ↗ as we saw the the one tree fall here and

1:49:25 ↗ as Corey and I were walking in right

1:49:28 ↗ it's that we you know the realization

1:49:30 ↗ that our our

1:49:32 ↗ Park system is active it's living

1:49:35 ↗ breathing Dynamic constantly changing

1:49:38 ↗ and so really succession planning with

1:49:41 ↗ trees planting and succession planting

1:49:44 ↗ with trees is really really important

1:49:46 ↗ green Issaquah is beginning to really

1:49:48 ↗ blossom in its productivity we have a

1:49:52 ↗ volunteer coordinator that's been

1:49:54 ↗ brought on board this year so over 40

1:49:57 ↗ events have been hosted representing a

1:50:00 ↗ little over 2 300 hours of volunteer

1:50:03 ↗ work so some great some great output

1:50:05 ↗ there

1:50:07 ↗ within our Park projects a lot of the

1:50:10 ↗ areas that we talk about those that work

1:50:13 ↗ has continued throughout the summer

1:50:14 ↗ welcome on board Robin is Robin's

1:50:16 ↗ becoming familiar with all of these

1:50:18 ↗ right

1:50:19 ↗ right but again thank you to Asante and

1:50:21 ↗ Rick and and and certainly some added

1:50:24 ↗ work for myself

1:50:25 ↗ work on pedestrian Park Senior Center

1:50:28 ↗ continues uh we'll hopefully have a more

1:50:31 ↗ focused update at our October Park board

1:50:33 ↗ meeting as we're really getting close to

1:50:36 ↗ submitting design for that

1:50:39 ↗ um Hillside Park permitting is has been

1:50:41 ↗ underway

1:50:42 ↗ um we had hosted a date we didn't host

1:50:44 ↗ Community Planning and Development

1:50:46 ↗ hosted a neighborhood environmental

1:50:48 ↗ meeting as part of the permit process uh

1:50:50 ↗ we hope to be getting our permit

1:50:53 ↗ responses

1:50:55 ↗ um and actions back from Community

1:50:56 ↗ Planning Development in the next month

1:50:58 ↗ or two this is a project too we hope to

1:51:00 ↗ be out to bid this winter and and plan

1:51:04 ↗ to be under construction and complete in

1:51:06 ↗ 2024.

1:51:08 ↗ the others two topics we touched on uh

1:51:11 ↗ in a pretty big way tonight

1:51:15 ↗ and lastly again just a kudos to the

1:51:18 ↗ team you know we we do a lot of things

1:51:20 ↗ but we talk a lot about this to our

1:51:23 ↗ staff and to the team in the department

1:51:25 ↗ we are we have two core jobs and that's

1:51:28 ↗ stewarding places and investing in

1:51:31 ↗ people is really the the two things that

1:51:34 ↗ we do in this in this department and for

1:51:38 ↗ this community and an amazing staff to

1:51:40 ↗ work with

1:51:42 ↗ so there's a

1:51:44 ↗ little deeper dive than maybe I was

1:51:46 ↗ planning to sorry I started I started I

1:51:49 ↗ started soap boxing so forgive me

1:51:55 ↗ thank you

1:51:57 ↗ uh anyone else have any other business

1:51:59 ↗ or announcements to bring it up let's

1:52:02 ↗ make a thumbnail

1:52:04 ↗ but you know Brad said it earlier but

1:52:07 ↗ um you know that Jacob two trees art

1:52:10 ↗ installation

1:52:12 ↗ um I know there's concerns about it's

1:52:13 ↗ placing on the trail concerns about

1:52:15 ↗ mitigation of some of the clients

1:52:17 ↗ concerned about uh foot traffic coming

1:52:19 ↗ from the apartments to hit the trail to

1:52:21 ↗ go on salmon days those types of things

1:52:24 ↗ um that were are

1:52:29 ↗ um like I said I've already been there I

1:52:31 ↗ took my family there's a huge line of

1:52:32 ↗ people waiting to take pictures

1:52:35 ↗ um it was a fantastic display of

1:52:38 ↗ community you had the trail was survey

1:52:41 ↗ people on bicycles it was certain people

1:52:43 ↗ calling their children in wagons it was

1:52:46 ↗ serving people in wheelchairs with

1:52:47 ↗ certain people walking their dogs to the

1:52:50 ↗ to the Art Exhibit then to go to the dog

1:52:51 ↗ park

1:52:52 ↗ um so just from the planning on that the

1:52:56 ↗ execution and how it finally turned out

1:52:58 ↗ it's a fantastic piece it's a fantastic

1:53:00 ↗ uh installation it's fantastic

1:53:04 ↗ I think for our community so a great job

1:53:06 ↗ around and all the feedback that was

1:53:08 ↗ taken into how that's set up because uh

1:53:11 ↗ just watching people hand over their

1:53:13 ↗ phones and take pictures with other

1:53:14 ↗ people and it was really just the

1:53:17 ↗ community was vibrant and alive for that

1:53:19 ↗ one thing and so thanks to everyone in

1:53:22 ↗ the city and everything made the happen

1:53:24 ↗ it's it's a really cool thing

1:53:26 ↗ I appreciate that Ryan yeah it's a it's

1:53:29 ↗ a it's a really cool thing for us to

1:53:30 ↗ claw and it'll be interesting to see

1:53:32 ↗ some of the data points from the

1:53:35 ↗ downtown businesses but the the energy

1:53:38 ↗ along the Rainier Trail and even through

1:53:40 ↗ old town it's noticeable in terms of

1:53:42 ↗ just sort of visitation and

1:53:46 ↗ what that's what that's meant and as we

1:53:49 ↗ worked with the artist it was a it was

1:53:50 ↗ really important priority that it's

1:53:52 ↗ going to be in Issaquah how can we have

1:53:56 ↗ an installation like this

1:53:58 ↗ um

1:53:58 ↗ support and support Issaquah businesses

1:54:02 ↗ another important point and we're

1:54:04 ↗ continuing to have conversation with

1:54:07 ↗ Community Planning and Development

1:54:09 ↗ um

1:54:11 ↗ it has been our commitment from the

1:54:13 ↗ get-go and then given how popular it is

1:54:15 ↗ to make sure that art installation has

1:54:18 ↗ no negative environmental impact and is

1:54:20 ↗ making a positive environmental impact

1:54:22 ↗ and so any and all you know buffer

1:54:26 ↗ buffer mitigation's already been done we

1:54:29 ↗ will certainly commit to any and all

1:54:32 ↗ buffer mitigation to to again make sure

1:54:36 ↗ that that

1:54:37 ↗ um that is a

1:54:39 ↗ a positive many ways around but a

1:54:43 ↗ positive for the community as well as as

1:54:45 ↗ the environment

1:54:47 ↗ it's cool and I just added something to

1:54:50 ↗ that so I had the opportunity to

1:54:53 ↗ volunteer to um yeah to um

1:55:09 ↗ I tried actually helped to build the

1:55:11 ↗ bench that um that the other volunteers

1:55:14 ↗ sit down to take breaks during lunch so

1:55:17 ↗ I was really proud of myself but I'm I

1:55:19 ↗ had the opportunity

1:55:22 ↗ drove all the way from Seattle

1:55:24 ↗ and one from Bellevue and it was so neat

1:55:27 ↗ to you know they were blown away and I

1:55:30 ↗ I've had the opportunity just to kind of

1:55:45 ↗ great to hear yep

1:55:50 ↗ do we have anything else

1:55:53 ↗ all right with that in three minutes to

1:55:56 ↗ spare time

1:56:00 ↗ our next meeting will be October 23rd

1:56:03 ↗ which is a Monday right yes

1:56:12 ↗ thanks everyone

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