Park Board · Tuesday, September 26, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of June 26, 2023

packet pp.3–4

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 06-26-23 Park Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave June 26, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

Minutes of August 9, 2023

packet pp.5–12

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 08-09-23 Park Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 6:00 PM Community Center, 301 Rainier August 9, 2023 MINUTES Blvd. S. Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Park System Plan Update

Director · 40 min · Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services · packet pp.13–25

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

Park Plan Update SEPTEMBER 26TH | PARK BOARD Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

Rainier Trail Dog Park Update

Director · 20 min · Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services · packet pp.27–55

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

REGULAR BUSINESS b) Robin Spear, Park Planning and Development Manager Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

5. REPORTS

Chairperson's Report

packet pp.57–66

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Staff report:

REPORTS b) Ongoing Calendar – tentative and a working document Month Agenda Items Month Agenda Items January 23 • Title 18 Draft July 24- • TOUR and/or Board meeting at a • Recreation Update cancelled park? • 2023 Work Plan – Ad Hoc groups?

Director's Report

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0:05 ↗ um Marley Here Andrew e

0:10 ↗ and uh Ryan uh here

0:14 ↗ I'm here and David not to forget you

0:17 ↗ have presents

0:19 ↗ and then we've got Brad online I'm here

0:24 ↗ and I don't know if anybody has sent in

0:26 ↗ any messages about

0:29 ↗ excuse absences or maybe we catch up

0:31 ↗ with those later sure I know Zach is

0:34 ↗ excused okay

0:36 ↗ um

0:41 ↗ oh and Katie

0:43 ↗ excuse me did you just say Andrew also

0:46 ↗ before a minute ago no okay all right

0:50 ↗ um

0:52 ↗ and then uh

0:56 ↗ one moment

1:06 ↗ um

1:09 ↗ we have so we have a quorum uh using

1:12 ↗ having Ryan step in as an alternate and

1:15 ↗ then I guess the next thing is everybody

1:17 ↗ had a chance to review the minutes from

1:19 ↗ two months ago

1:22 ↗ oh

1:25 ↗ yeah

1:26 ↗ um any corrections or edits anyone wants

1:31 ↗ okay with no Corrections uh then we'll

1:34 ↗ I'll approve the minutes

1:37 ↗ and it looks like we have at least one

1:40 ↗ person here for public comment correct

1:42 ↗ yeah it is can I move that until after

1:45 ↗ the dog park presentation

1:48 ↗ um

1:56 ↗ okay then uh probably a good time to

2:00 ↗ um

2:02 ↗ have an introduction here I

2:05 ↗ I'm noting that Brenda is here and then

2:07 ↗ also we have a virtual guest

2:09 ↗ um just wanted to

2:12 ↗ uh would you like to make public

2:13 ↗ comments in any way

2:16 ↗ um you may do so or not

2:23 ↗ hi Steve can you hear us I can hear you

2:26 ↗ sorry I was I'm kind of multitasking

2:28 ↗ here from the conference room in the

2:29 ↗ library which is a good place to hang

2:31 ↗ out nice would you like to give audience

2:34 ↗ comment yes please

2:37 ↗ uh please introduce yourself and and go

2:40 ↗ right ahead try to keep into five

2:42 ↗ minutes please I don't know if we did

2:44 ↗ the minutes first I didn't want to cut

2:45 ↗ in ahead of time so oh yeah we just

2:48 ↗ finished that

2:49 ↗ okay so my name's Steve Pereira I've

2:52 ↗ lived in the old town area of Visa off

2:54 ↗ about the past 16 years uh first of all

2:57 ↗ several thoughts and I'll try to be very

2:58 ↗ brief in them so you can continue your

3:00 ↗ good work uh the first is thanks to each

3:03 ↗ of you I always like to say for serving

3:04 ↗ and giving back to this is quite the

3:06 ↗ place we live and love so thank you

3:08 ↗ assistant sir thank you to each of you

3:11 ↗ for serving uh the second is just a

3:14 ↗ thought I know that there's a

3:16 ↗ physical program where you can donate a

3:19 ↗ bench and have that put up I would like

3:21 ↗ to see your ask the idea of if it's

3:24 ↗ possible to donate a

3:26 ↗ uh

3:27 ↗ a place where you can secure your bike

3:30 ↗ or a bike rack type thing program within

3:33 ↗ this across so just throwing the

3:35 ↗ question out there for consideration

3:37 ↗ uh third question or issue was the dog

3:40 ↗ park I admit I've always been a strong

3:42 ↗ opponent of the dog parks I just don't

3:44 ↗ think it's the best to use it as a quart

3:45 ↗ dollars at this time

3:48 ↗ that said I still have concerns about

3:50 ↗ the

3:52 ↗ report door talks about

3:54 ↗ two

3:56 ↗ whether or not it's wild wildlife or

3:59 ↗ water water area I would think that I'd

4:02 ↗ like to push back on that I also would

4:03 ↗ like to hear some feedback from the

4:05 ↗ Park board on

4:08 ↗ the idea I've heard comments talked

4:10 ↗ about where maybe we Issaquah needs more

4:12 ↗ than one dog perk and this dog park

4:15 ↗ doesn't seem to meet the size definition

4:16 ↗ or size requirements why we're expanding

4:19 ↗ the scope to have multiple dog parks I'd

4:21 ↗ like to see here there's the first word

4:23 ↗ kind of pushed back on that idea of

4:25 ↗ having even just one let alone multiple

4:27 ↗ dog parks that seems to be not a good

4:29 ↗ use of limited dollars for care for pets

4:32 ↗ uh the last issue I wanted to talk about

4:35 ↗ in my fine monotone voice thanks for all

4:38 ↗ for your perseverance

4:40 ↗ was

4:42 ↗ the idea that I sent an email with the

4:45 ↗ editorial in this in the Seattle Times

4:47 ↗ from August 2023 about

4:50 ↗ uh what are called culturally modified

4:52 ↗ trees which are trees marked by

4:56 ↗ first people is including this um

4:58 ↗ Sammamish tribe uh I think that Issaquah

5:01 ↗ Parks has several issues that are worked

5:05 ↗ towards that one is the a Heritage tree

5:08 ↗ program which I would like to see

5:09 ↗ defined as a program that protects and

5:13 ↗ defines all trees not just that it

5:15 ↗ landmarks them but it has code language

5:18 ↗ that prevents their removal if they are

5:20 ↗ found

5:20 ↗ typing is Title 18 where it talks about

5:24 ↗ uh

5:26 ↗ have an enter code but I think we need

5:28 ↗ things beyond that I would like to see

5:30 ↗ the squad Parts board advocate for one

5:33 ↗ is what is the city's cipa or State

5:36 ↗ Environmental Protection Agency or act

5:39 ↗ for protecting trees what can is why do

5:43 ↗ the lobby for that change and

5:44 ↗ modification include closely modified

5:46 ↗ trees uh what can we do at the state

5:49 ↗ level and at the jurisdiction levels and

5:52 ↗ how do we put that into our own code

5:55 ↗ language so that a Heritage tree or a

5:59 ↗ culturally modified tree does not get

6:00 ↗ removed

6:02 ↗ I think that's beyond the park board the

6:04 ↗ scope of the title 18 so I'd like to see

6:06 ↗ the language that we work with other

6:07 ↗ bodies or this development commission

6:10 ↗ whether that's other staff groups

6:13 ↗ to advocate for those things and those

6:15 ↗ changes

6:17 ↗ [Music]

6:17 ↗ um

6:18 ↗ I think that kind of

6:21 ↗ so I've talked about the lobbying at the

6:23 ↗ state level and I think about a wider

6:25 ↗ scope of our own jurisdiction not just

6:26 ↗ the things that the park board is

6:28 ↗ looking in but I want to see how the

6:29 ↗ park board work

6:31 ↗ ties in with the environmental board

6:33 ↗ within the development commission within

6:34 ↗ the permanent planning policy commission

6:36 ↗ to better flesh out

6:38 ↗ and scope out this culturally modified

6:40 ↗ trees to make sure it's something that

6:42 ↗ we're taking full action I think that's

6:43 ↗ kind of in keeping with the existing

6:47 ↗ uh Heritage and tradition within things

6:50 ↗ that is Squad residents would already

6:52 ↗ support but I would like to see those as

6:53 ↗ defined work plan items and I don't

6:55 ↗ think those are currently fleshed out as

6:57 ↗ much as well as they should be

6:59 ↗ that concludes it for me again thank you

7:01 ↗ all for your time and your dedication

7:03 ↗ and your efforts

7:04 ↗ and I'll go back to mute

7:07 ↗ and I'll probably close my camera too

7:10 ↗ thank you

7:13 ↗ Andrew Myers here too

7:16 ↗ you do let's step in

7:20 ↗ okay well

7:22 ↗ um with that we're going to move into

7:25 ↗ regular business

7:26 ↗ and on the agenda the first item is the

7:29 ↗ park system Plan update oh and sorry I

7:33 ↗ want to do an introduction all right no

7:35 ↗ thank you I'll do a bit of both thank

7:37 ↗ you so much

7:39 ↗ um

7:39 ↗ so before jumping into the park Plan

7:42 ↗ update I want to take the opportunity to

7:43 ↗ introduce Robin Spears our new park

7:47 ↗ planning and development manager Robin

7:49 ↗ started September 1st

7:52 ↗ um boy hard to believe one month in

7:56 ↗ almost

7:57 ↗ um uh so fortunate Deborah Robin we had

8:00 ↗ a really strong

8:02 ↗ recruitment process through the summer

8:04 ↗ Robin comes with just a great as a

8:08 ↗ landscape architect both private and

8:10 ↗ public experience I spent some time

8:12 ↗ working in some other big cities down in

8:15 ↗ the California area as well as doing

8:18 ↗ some consultant landscape architect work

8:20 ↗ so seeing

8:21 ↗ sort of parks and city park system and

8:23 ↗ city park development both from the

8:25 ↗ private sort of perspective as well as

8:27 ↗ as the public perspective

8:30 ↗ so just thrilled to have Robin here I

8:33 ↗ don't know if you want to

8:34 ↗ say a few words and say hi or yeah

8:37 ↗ it's really exciting a year it's really

8:39 ↗ great time and knowing

8:41 ↗ our plans is in the system update

8:43 ↗ usually I am on the other side looking

8:46 ↗ at those interpreting those but to be

8:48 ↗ able to develop that with the community

8:49 ↗ I think is really special and it's a

8:52 ↗ great way to just jump in and get to

8:55 ↗ know ASAP get to know the community and

8:56 ↗ get to know the system

8:58 ↗ thank you so yeah exciting exciting to

9:01 ↗ have Robin here thank you for for

9:03 ↗ letting me give an introduction

9:04 ↗ um on another note we um have been

9:07 ↗ recruiting for the senior Park planner

9:09 ↗ position so the position that Jen Fink

9:11 ↗ held

9:13 ↗ um that position we have two candidate

9:16 ↗ interviews later this week uh two really

9:18 ↗ really strong candidates there so um

9:21 ↗ continue to progress and and staff

9:23 ↗ ourselves in a position ourselves to get

9:26 ↗ a lot of this uh um a lot of this work

9:29 ↗ uh really important work in the park

9:31 ↗ system

9:32 ↗ um done so exciting

9:35 ↗ so that Park system plan updates

9:38 ↗ um

9:39 ↗ you want to share our screen is

9:41 ↗ something thank you so much

9:44 ↗ oh

9:45 ↗ um you may recall

9:47 ↗ um

9:48 ↗ a number of you were here at the time

9:50 ↗ but in 2017 we did a big community

9:52 ↗ outreach effort that created

9:55 ↗ to the city's first sort of system-wide

9:59 ↗ Park plan

10:01 ↗ adopted in in 2018 as my copy it's a

10:05 ↗ little a little tethered but it's really

10:08 ↗ important work and we're asked by the

10:12 ↗ State Recreation conservation office in

10:15 ↗ order for us to be eligible for a wide

10:17 ↗ variety of Grants they ask and it's

10:19 ↗ really a best practice for the cities to

10:21 ↗ update those plans every six years so

10:24 ↗ here we are

10:26 ↗ 2023 we kicked off this effort in the

10:29 ↗ summer I think we had a chance to update

10:32 ↗ all of you we are working with a firm

10:34 ↗ design Workshop

10:36 ↗ they've done a lot of Park system plans

10:38 ↗ for some very large and small very

10:42 ↗ active Quality of Life Communities

10:45 ↗ from Vancouver BC to Salt Lake City to

10:49 ↗ Aspen Colorado and Boulder Colorado and

10:52 ↗ cities of many shapes and size is in

10:55 ↗ between that so we really feel like it's

10:58 ↗ a good fit we've done some focus group

11:00 ↗ conversations within the community

11:02 ↗ tonight we really want to have a chance

11:04 ↗ to start to dive in if you want to go to

11:06 ↗ the next slide Asante

11:10 ↗ um and really start uh doing some of the

11:12 ↗ the framework uh discussions with all of

11:15 ↗ you tonight we're not asking for any

11:16 ↗ action tonight

11:18 ↗ um but over the next couple of months uh

11:21 ↗ tonight focusing on Park classifications

11:24 ↗ um and then

11:26 ↗ um October and actually into November

11:28 ↗ focusing on the goals and policies uh

11:30 ↗ within the park system plan both of

11:32 ↗ these are really really important

11:33 ↗ efforts that start to create the

11:36 ↗ building blocks in the meantime we have

11:39 ↗ a some community outreach continued

11:41 ↗ community outreach and some survey work

11:43 ↗ that's going to be going on in October

11:45 ↗ that's going to help us get a sense of

11:49 ↗ really sort of the aspirational goals

11:51 ↗ that the community has much like the

11:54 ↗ this prior plan as we go through plan

11:57 ↗ development we will have a second public

12:00 ↗ Outreach

12:02 ↗ sometime later in the first quarter

12:04 ↗ second quarter of next year where we'll

12:06 ↗ really be getting into specific sort of

12:09 ↗ priorities project priorities

12:12 ↗ Etc after we do some of this on initial

12:14 ↗ work

12:16 ↗ all to say this this is really important

12:19 ↗ work and sometimes it can get lost why

12:21 ↗ why do a system plan does it really help

12:23 ↗ does is it just a document that sits on

12:25 ↗ a shelf

12:26 ↗ um I can tell you it it's not

12:29 ↗ um and even to the point when you look

12:31 ↗ at some of our conversations tonight the

12:33 ↗ projects that we're talking that have

12:35 ↗ been on our work plan

12:37 ↗ um

12:38 ↗ um the the arpa projects the arpa funded

12:40 ↗ projects that you know through a

12:42 ↗ pandemic the city got Federal funding we

12:45 ↗ were able to work as a board and staff

12:47 ↗ Council asked us to prioritize

12:49 ↗ opportunities those opportunities came

12:51 ↗ right out of the system plan and some of

12:53 ↗ the planning work that was going on a

12:56 ↗ lot of really really important work

12:57 ↗ around the importance of urban forestry

13:00 ↗ initiating the green Issaquah program

13:03 ↗ those were all operational priorities

13:06 ↗ that came out of out of this document

13:08 ↗ and so

13:09 ↗ um I just I I want to give those of you

13:11 ↗ that were here at the time some really

13:13 ↗ some real Applause and just recognize

13:16 ↗ that it's done well and really done in a

13:20 ↗ community-minded way this this work

13:22 ↗ helps really helps to to drive

13:24 ↗ priorities and drive work so with that

13:28 ↗ I'm going to hand it over to

13:31 ↗ um to Robin to talk through

13:33 ↗ classifications and sort of why why are

13:36 ↗ classifications in our Park system in

13:38 ↗ Portland

13:40 ↗ anyway okay

13:41 ↗ so when we first start looking at a plan

13:44 ↗ you kind of have to establish a baseline

13:46 ↗ of what type of parks you have in your

13:49 ↗ plan

13:50 ↗ um and they kind of become the core of

13:52 ↗ everything around it

13:54 ↗ um when we're looking at classifications

13:56 ↗ you want to ask ourselves like what are

13:58 ↗ classifications and why do we need them

14:02 ↗ um they allow jurisdictions to identify

14:04 ↗ different types of parks and obviously

14:07 ↗ we do have several different types of

14:09 ↗ parks that we really want to start

14:11 ↗ refining and aligning with

14:15 ↗ um kind of national standards so we have

14:18 ↗ a baseline to compare ourselves with

14:21 ↗ um we look at the similarities across a

14:23 ↗ number of characteristics throughout the

14:24 ↗ system

14:25 ↗ and typically they're driven by Park use

14:28 ↗ purpose and size

14:30 ↗ well why are they really important I

14:32 ↗ think classification is really establish

14:35 ↗ that language for our Park system and

14:38 ↗ what we want that Park system to do how

14:41 ↗ we want it to perform

14:43 ↗ um

14:44 ↗ you know we're looking at different

14:45 ↗ locations programming and uses of

14:48 ↗ different types because each Park serves

14:51 ↗ a different kind of purpose for the

14:52 ↗ community

14:54 ↗ um it can help in assessing and

14:55 ↗ promoting connectivity Acquisitions and

14:58 ↗ just the overall condition their level

15:00 ↗ of service of the parks

15:02 ↗ and then why do we need to update them

15:04 ↗ well we established our initial Park

15:07 ↗ classification in 2018 but as most

15:10 ↗ cities are they're very Dynamic and they

15:14 ↗ change with the times we need to change

15:16 ↗ with the times we're looking at what

15:19 ↗ available land we are a little bit Lane

15:21 ↗ constrained so we want to see what's

15:24 ↗ left that we can we can acquire for the

15:28 ↗ system acquire for our needs

15:31 ↗ um and just the the community has become

15:33 ↗ more Dynamic and the needs definitely

15:35 ↗ change throughout the years can I touch

15:38 ↗ on one thing too Robin great great

15:39 ↗ overview

15:40 ↗ um

15:43 ↗ we did a lot of work in the 2018 plan

15:45 ↗ one thing we didn't really do is take

15:47 ↗ this deep dive into the classifications

15:49 ↗ we really took the classification

15:52 ↗ definitions and the approach that the

15:54 ↗ city took for a number of years

15:56 ↗ um

15:57 ↗ and I guess I would say that um and and

16:02 ↗ as Robin sort of goes into the specifics

16:04 ↗ I I hope you'll you'll start to see and

16:06 ↗ we've got some core questions

16:09 ↗ um I think it's time that we

16:11 ↗ um

16:13 ↗ we really look at them deeply and are

16:15 ↗ they are they really helping Define our

16:18 ↗ system and the function of our system

16:20 ↗ um or or aren't they and in some cases I

16:23 ↗ I think as we look at the priorities of

16:25 ↗ connectivity uh that this community has

16:28 ↗ the reality that we have a number of our

16:30 ↗ Park Parcels that are much more linear

16:32 ↗ in Form and Function that they are

16:35 ↗ um as as sort of more of a DOT more of a

16:38 ↗ community park a neighborhood park we

16:41 ↗ really think it's important to make sure

16:42 ↗ we have classifications that help

16:45 ↗ really clearly portray what our system

16:48 ↗ how our system functions

16:50 ↗ so yeah definitely

16:55 ↗ so here are our current classifications

16:57 ↗ and I really I'll let you all read

17:00 ↗ through those but what we wanted to do

17:01 ↗ is the pieces and the the parts that are

17:05 ↗ in red are really what we want to dive

17:07 ↗ into and discuss today and and see if

17:10 ↗ they really make sense with this

17:12 ↗ national standards make sense for our

17:14 ↗ system it makes sense moving forward so

17:17 ↗ for Community Parks we're realizing that

17:20 ↗ what we have right now is ranging from 1

17:22 ↗ to 50 acres but does that one acre

17:25 ↗ really provide enough amenities for

17:28 ↗ Community Park that's one thing we want

17:30 ↗ to see if we want to increase and start

17:34 ↗ um and that wouldn't be typical and if

17:36 ↗ you were to look at a National Standard

17:37 ↗ if you look at the cities around us most

17:39 ↗ cities will Define a community park as

17:41 ↗ 20 acres or larger or 10 acres or larger

17:44 ↗ so again just some of those

17:47 ↗ um

17:48 ↗ yeah some of these really really

17:49 ↗ important checks yeah

17:52 ↗ um then next up is neighborhood parks

17:54 ↗ which are typically smaller in size and

17:56 ↗ Community parks and those really range

17:59 ↗ from one to five acres or less than five

18:02 ↗ acres

18:03 ↗ a resource Parks I want to point out

18:06 ↗ research we highlighted that because

18:09 ↗ we've been talking back and forth is

18:10 ↗ that really an appropriate name

18:12 ↗ for that resource kid

18:15 ↗ apply many different things so we kind

18:18 ↗ of want to straighten that out tighten

18:19 ↗ that up

18:21 ↗ um and then in research parts right now

18:24 ↗ we have these resource parks are

18:25 ↗ generally more passive including items

18:28 ↗ such as trails and interpretive signage

18:31 ↗ but that also conflicts with some of the

18:33 ↗ other classifications so we just want to

18:35 ↗ narrow that down and keep redefining

18:38 ↗ that a natural open space kind of

18:42 ↗ self-explanatory

18:46 ↗ in undeveloped Parks again property that

18:48 ↗ has not yet been funded or developed as

18:51 ↗ Parkland but is in line to be developed

18:54 ↗ in the future

18:55 ↗ uh facilities obviously building that as

18:58 ↗ public use for Gathering spaces and then

19:00 ↗ we did have Urban and natural Trails but

19:03 ↗ we want to pull Trails out of the park

19:06 ↗ classifications all together and start

19:08 ↗ aligning with what Public Works has

19:12 ↗ so we'd still have Trail classifications

19:14 ↗ but

19:16 ↗ having Trail classifications fit within

19:19 ↗ Park classification they're two they're

19:20 ↗ two different things a trail is an

19:22 ↗ amenity within the system

19:25 ↗ Park classifications usually have to do

19:27 ↗ with the land itself the parcel itself

19:36 ↗ all right so for with the new

19:37 ↗ classifications we really want to

19:40 ↗ develop criteria that we are assessing

19:42 ↗ to make sure we're assessing each one

19:44 ↗ similarly we're looking at acreage

19:47 ↗ active or passive use amenities access

19:51 ↗ is very important landscape in the

19:53 ↗ environment and the stewardship of our

19:56 ↗ natural or open space and how does that

19:59 ↗ heart classification fit within the

20:01 ↗ green necklace Network

20:04 ↗ foreign

20:05 ↗ so we're starting to look at new

20:07 ↗ language

20:09 ↗ and the blue text is really what we want

20:13 ↗ to kind of focus on and open that up for

20:16 ↗ discussion again we were talking

20:18 ↗ Community parks are generally larger in

20:21 ↗ acreage so we're thinking they'll be

20:23 ↗ ranging from 5 to 50 acres and 10 10 to

20:30 ↗ 50 acres sorry 10 to 50 acres centrally

20:32 ↗ located for multiple neighborhoods and I

20:35 ↗ think that's really important to know

20:37 ↗ that this is actually servicing not one

20:39 ↗ neighborhood but can serve as multiples

20:42 ↗ um Community parks are kind of the best

20:45 ↗ of all worlds where various active and

20:47 ↗ paths abuses and we're seeing with

20:49 ↗ approximately a third of that land

20:52 ↗ reserved for active recreation use

20:56 ↗ so that'll help us balance priorities

20:58 ↗ amenities and what we want to put in

21:01 ↗ these Community parks

21:03 ↗ for neighborhood parks we're

21:06 ↗ um

21:07 ↗ kind of keeping the same range of

21:08 ↗ acreage one to five acres but these are

21:11 ↗ designed to serve the needs of basically

21:13 ↗ one neighborhood so again much smaller

21:18 ↗ um not as many amenities but applicable

21:20 ↗ to that specific neighborhood

21:24 ↗ and then we're seeing or recommending

21:26 ↗ that with approximately a quarter of

21:28 ↗ that land reserved for active recreation

21:30 ↗ use

21:33 ↗ um nature parks our resource Parks we

21:35 ↗ thought would be better served as or

21:37 ↗ defined as nature parks that could range

21:40 ↗ from 1 to 50 acres so it's very flexible

21:43 ↗ depending on the location of the park

21:46 ↗ and really the primary focus is on

21:50 ↗ preserving forested areas and supporting

21:53 ↗ wildlife and habitat conservations

21:56 ↗ again this could actually be located

21:59 ↗ anywhere so we really like that

22:00 ↗ flexibility

22:03 ↗ um needs a strong connection to an urban

22:05 ↗ or natural Trail which we kind of see

22:08 ↗ throughout the park system right now and

22:10 ↗ provide links to other natural spaces uh

22:13 ↗ limited active Recreation news focused

22:16 ↗ on passive Recreation

22:18 ↗ so this wouldn't be a highly active Park

22:22 ↗ and then open space again one to 50

22:25 ↗ acres you know just aligning with with

22:28 ↗ the available plan that we know we're

22:30 ↗ going to have or have right now

22:33 ↗ um it's basically native ground is to

22:36 ↗ remain relatively undeveloped for

22:38 ↗ wildlife and habitat preservation but

22:40 ↗ the primary focus on passive Recreation

22:42 ↗ with trails

22:44 ↗ uh no active Recreation development at

22:47 ↗ all

22:52 ↗ then we have undeveloped Parks one to 50

22:55 ↗ acres so undeveloped could be located in

22:58 ↗ natural or commercial areas and held

23:01 ↗ until activated

23:03 ↗ and the important thing for this is we

23:06 ↗ may need to still stabilize some of

23:08 ↗ these sites depending on the condition

23:09 ↗ that they're in so there might be some

23:12 ↗ activity it just wouldn't be developed

23:14 ↗ another important distinction would be

23:17 ↗ um no thanks Robin great overview an

23:21 ↗ undeveloped park has an intention of

23:22 ↗ being developed someday right so it

23:24 ↗ might I mean in some cases an individual

23:27 ↗ car an undeveloped Park may look a lot

23:29 ↗ like a Nature Park or look a lot like

23:32 ↗ open space in its current state it's

23:34 ↗ just that it has a plan to become

23:36 ↗ something else

23:39 ↗ so an undeveloped Park would be a

23:42 ↗ classification that think of it it

23:45 ↗ wouldn't be a permanent classification

23:46 ↗ for that parcel it's just it's living

23:48 ↗ that classification until it becomes

23:50 ↗ something else

23:52 ↗ I think what would be helpful is

23:55 ↗ instead of doing it like we set the

23:57 ↗ criteria and then we try to fit the

23:58 ↗ parks in it would be good to see what

24:00 ↗ parks fall into each one of the criteria

24:02 ↗ to make sure that the criteria are

24:03 ↗ correct right because we don't want to

24:05 ↗ say 10 acres and all of a sudden I don't

24:06 ↗ know for example like Tibbetts is less

24:08 ↗ than 10 acres like oh no it's definitely

24:09 ↗ this kind of Park so I think if we can

24:12 ↗ send that out and be like this is an

24:13 ↗ example of the parts that would fall in

24:15 ↗ yeah no it's great and we've done some

24:16 ↗ of that cursory work I think discussion

24:19 ↗ around this I did do we want to do we

24:21 ↗ want to Tinker with the classifications

24:23 ↗ are we headed the right direction and

24:24 ↗ you're right the next step would be

24:26 ↗ coming back with

24:27 ↗ okay here here's here's what our roster

24:30 ↗ of Parts looks like and here's how quite

24:32 ↗ frankly how our acreage

24:34 ↗ adjusts and in many ways how are acreage

24:37 ↗ is functioning

24:41 ↗ and then the blues are two new

24:42 ↗ classifications that we're proposing the

24:45 ↗ Greenways which I'm sure it's kind of a

24:48 ↗ little bit of a buzzword but you hear

24:49 ↗ that quite often

24:51 ↗ um we're interpreting that they could

24:54 ↗ range from 20 to 30 feet wide at a

24:56 ↗ quarter mile or longer and again these

24:58 ↗ are just ideas to throw out there it

25:01 ↗ could be less it could be more

25:03 ↗ um but basically located in it could be

25:05 ↗ located in natural commercial areas

25:07 ↗ serving multiple neighborhoods but the

25:10 ↗ primary focus is really supporting

25:12 ↗ ecological restoration around that trail

25:15 ↗ and preserving

25:16 ↗ that landscape it could be used for

25:20 ↗ Trails but we're recognizing we still

25:23 ↗ need to keep that property open for our

25:25 ↗ flood zones and storm water control

25:27 ↗ measures but you're seeing more and more

25:29 ↗ parks and Landscapes being integrated in

25:31 ↗ so they serve multiple functions

25:34 ↗ and then linear Parks could range from

25:36 ↗ 30 to 50 feet wide we find that that's a

25:40 ↗ good width any smaller than that and it

25:43 ↗ almost becomes it's really difficult to

25:45 ↗ fit for creation yeah

25:47 ↗ um

25:48 ↗ and we're thinking that that really

25:50 ↗ there's an emphasis on more urban or

25:52 ↗ commercial environments and primarily

25:55 ↗ accessed by sidewalks or another Trail

25:57 ↗ urban trail system

25:59 ↗ with a primary focus on active uses

26:02 ↗ secondary and passive uses so we're

26:05 ↗ going to see with Development coming in

26:07 ↗ a lot more linear Parts there's still

26:09 ↗ function really well they still provide

26:12 ↗ quite a few amenities they're just very

26:14 ↗ long and narrow it's not what you

26:16 ↗ typically think of a park but you know

26:19 ↗ we can see that trying starting to

26:21 ↗ happen

26:21 ↗ again with the goals of connectivity we

26:24 ↗ think these having two classifications

26:26 ↗ that are more linear in nature will

26:28 ↗ really serve an important role in how

26:31 ↗ some of our Parcels are functioning

26:34 ↗ um again really good overview

26:36 ↗ maybe a relatively simple way to think

26:39 ↗ of the difference between a Greenway and

26:41 ↗ a linear Park is both are a linear

26:43 ↗ parcel of a linear look

26:46 ↗ what is the primary function

26:48 ↗ in the case the greenway's primary

26:50 ↗ function is likely ecological but

26:53 ↗ there's a TR there's a recreational use

26:54 ↗ right it's multiple benefit but

26:56 ↗ primarily ecological Recreation is

26:59 ↗ secondary a linear Park is sort of

27:01 ↗ flipped linear park has primarily a

27:03 ↗ recreational

27:05 ↗ benefit but it could also have some

27:07 ↗ ecological benefit so it's just it's

27:10 ↗ thinking sort of that that primary

27:12 ↗ secondary relationship of the multiple

27:14 ↗ benefits right

27:19 ↗ I just saw

27:21 ↗ sorry Chris

27:22 ↗ um

27:23 ↗ it may not really matter but you know

27:25 ↗ especially if you do apply something

27:26 ↗ like what David mentioned but like there

27:28 ↗ are some gaps like in the numbers like

27:30 ↗ go one to five and then yeah and you may

27:33 ↗ just find out that you know we don't

27:35 ↗ have any or we need a place to put the

27:37 ↗ seven and a half acre or whatever or

27:40 ↗ throw in a lot of approximates

27:42 ↗ um and then uh for the greenway so it

27:45 ↗ would the green necklace would be a

27:47 ↗ Greenway

27:49 ↗ green necklace could be a cool I think

27:51 ↗ the green necklace is not a singular

27:53 ↗ thing the green necklace is probably

27:54 ↗ going to have some Park classifications

27:56 ↗ but it's probably gonna have some linear

27:58 ↗ Parks it's also going to have some

27:59 ↗ Greenways I think these prescient photos

28:01 ↗ that that Robin provided are a good

28:03 ↗ example I would say just within our

28:05 ↗ system the Rainier Trail

28:07 ↗ there's a parcel of that it really

28:09 ↗ functions a lot as a in many places as a

28:12 ↗ linear Park

28:14 ↗ um

28:16 ↗ in some cases it functions as a Greenway

28:18 ↗ though as well

28:20 ↗ um

28:21 ↗ the recently

28:24 ↗ acquired

28:26 ↗ parcel that's again linear nature that's

28:28 ↗ part of the I was referred to it as the

28:31 ↗ Gateway Apartments it's now Anthology

28:34 ↗ Apartments off of Newport right that

28:37 ↗ that the boardwalk and then there's a

28:39 ↗ parcel that again is relatively linear

28:41 ↗ nature not really a community park is it

28:45 ↗ really a neighborhood park it could be

28:47 ↗ more of a linear Park so just wanting to

28:51 ↗ give ourselves that kind of adaptability

28:54 ↗ I think you've got a couple photos there

28:55 ↗ of

28:58 ↗ and then

29:01 ↗ yeah the Wetland area and the boardwalk

29:03 ↗ don't worry about that

29:04 ↗ just to give you ideas of what that game

29:11 ↗ okay and then looking at Trail

29:13 ↗ classifications again we're going to

29:15 ↗ separate that out from the park

29:17 ↗ classifications but with the um

29:20 ↗ comprehensive plan coming out we wanted

29:22 ↗ to make sure we're better aligned with

29:24 ↗ that language as well and there there is

29:27 ↗ a confusion there going back and forth

29:30 ↗ so really our urban trail according to

29:33 ↗ the municode is a multi-purpose Trail

29:35 ↗ we're looking at natural Trails more as

29:39 ↗ a forest path

29:40 ↗ or a neighborhood Trail

29:43 ↗ so we want to start moving that language

29:45 ↗ and aligning that a little bit better

29:47 ↗ so our thoughts tonight just as we move

29:50 ↗ forward with this on on this in

29:52 ↗ particular as Robin says you know

29:55 ↗ still having Trail classifications but

29:57 ↗ letting them live as their own not not

30:00 ↗ embedded within Park classifications and

30:02 ↗ then really

30:04 ↗ um taking a look at the new title 18 the

30:06 ↗ new development code and making sure

30:08 ↗ what we're classifying and our

30:10 ↗ definitions of trails trying to have

30:12 ↗ some consistency across all these

30:15 ↗ planning documents and code

30:20 ↗ a little bit of cleaning up

30:26 ↗ yeah this is what I was working on this

30:29 ↗ week actually so

30:31 ↗ um coming out in the next few weeks is

30:33 ↗ going to be our first online survey for

30:35 ↗ the park system update

30:37 ↗ um we're looking at our goals with the

30:40 ↗ community that we want to

30:42 ↗ assess are assessing the existing system

30:45 ↗ what do we have right now what are

30:47 ↗ people using right now uh assess what is

30:49 ↗ missing in the system again we have

30:52 ↗ Dynamic communities that are always

30:54 ↗ changing and we want to make sure that

30:56 ↗ we're providing the amenities that

30:58 ↗ families need

31:00 ↗ uh what are are the future priorities

31:02 ↗ what do

31:04 ↗ people think that we need to really

31:06 ↗ focus on

31:07 ↗ is it system accessible and Equitable

31:10 ↗ this is a big

31:12 ↗ um

31:13 ↗ thing that I I really like to look at is

31:15 ↗ in making sure our system is accessible

31:18 ↗ for all ages

31:20 ↗ um we say if a child from eight and a

31:23 ↗ person from eight to eighty can utilize

31:25 ↗ the space and that's a successful design

31:28 ↗ so that's what we're going to shoot for

31:29 ↗ and then are we being environmental

31:31 ↗ stewards

31:33 ↗ um you know with the new code

31:35 ↗ uh comes new buffer comes new

31:38 ↗ Conservation Area so let's make sure

31:40 ↗ that as we're developing we're actually

31:42 ↗ protecting at the same time and

31:45 ↗ balancing those amenities

31:47 ↗ uh survey timeline

31:50 ↗ um the first survey is going to open

31:51 ↗ late September you know we're looking

31:54 ↗ we're doing a translation right now so

31:57 ↗ that may take an extra week but we want

31:58 ↗ to make sure again we're reaching out to

32:00 ↗ as many people as we can and that will

32:03 ↗ close between the 13th and the 18th and

32:06 ↗ then we're going to have QR codes and

32:08 ↗ flyers at parks and community events

32:12 ↗ um we're going to try for salmon days

32:13 ↗ but if not we'll we'll make sure that we

32:16 ↗ focus on other events and get it out to

32:19 ↗ Broad as many people as we can yeah

32:22 ↗ really broad broadcast of information to

32:26 ↗ many email distributions

32:28 ↗ also utilizing some of our successful

32:31 ↗ Outreach efforts these last couple of

32:33 ↗ years we'll have some yard signs with

32:36 ↗ the QR codes streaming throughout our

32:39 ↗ parks and our trail system really

32:40 ↗ inviting residents to pop right on and

32:43 ↗ take the survey so

32:46 ↗ foreign

32:56 ↗ so just teeing up

32:58 ↗ um we've got a couple questions to and

33:00 ↗ really want to have some discussion

33:01 ↗ about the classifications but before

33:03 ↗ that just a little bit of a look ahead

33:06 ↗ um

33:07 ↗ um you might remember I think I'm

33:09 ↗ looking at Brad book online Brad and

33:12 ↗ Chris I think we're both part of a

33:13 ↗ subgroup that took a look at goals and

33:15 ↗ policies sort of towards the end of the

33:17 ↗ 2018 plan we want to dust those off

33:20 ↗ again and take an early look

33:23 ↗ um how do they fit how do they align

33:25 ↗ have a conversation around goals and

33:28 ↗ policies in October

33:30 ↗ um

33:31 ↗ and then come back based on that uh

33:33 ↗ conversation communication

33:36 ↗ um see if we can firm things up in

33:38 ↗ November and have some recommendations

33:40 ↗ that's an important date we'd love to

33:42 ↗ hit that date and that as Robin said

33:45 ↗ earlier the comprehensive plan is

33:46 ↗ getting updated the same time we're

33:48 ↗ doing our heart Plan update so it would

33:51 ↗ be great to have our goals and policies

33:53 ↗ work service foundational for our Park

33:56 ↗ Plan update but then it will also go on

33:59 ↗ a parallel path tour along with the

34:03 ↗ other sections of the comprehensive plan

34:06 ↗ goals and policies as it navigates that

34:08 ↗ adoption process so

34:11 ↗ great timing for that discussion not

34:14 ↗ only again informing our plan but really

34:17 ↗ aligning really well with the

34:19 ↗ comprehensive plan as well

34:26 ↗ so yeah just I love to open it up for a

34:29 ↗ conversation here's some questions more

34:31 ↗ as prompts if you've got questions we

34:34 ↗ can bounce back to the to the

34:36 ↗ classifications but would love your

34:38 ↗ thoughts on

34:40 ↗ um what could end up being a pretty

34:42 ↗ significant change with the community

34:43 ↗ park definition

34:45 ↗ but I think it's important we do it

34:48 ↗ so I'd love some thoughts around that

34:50 ↗ and then any thoughts or questions you

34:53 ↗ might have around

34:54 ↗ these classifications that are more

34:56 ↗ linear in nature and then did we miss

35:00 ↗ anything

35:01 ↗ I see Brad's hand is up

35:06 ↗ do I get to talk okay

35:08 ↗ um

35:09 ↗ I like the additions I like the

35:12 ↗ clarifications

35:14 ↗ um uh just a couple things that I would

35:16 ↗ want to point out much like Chris

35:18 ↗ mentioned I think the five to ten acre

35:21 ↗ Gap is something that needs to be looked

35:24 ↗ at a little further not only when we

35:27 ↗ start fitting in our existing Parks but

35:29 ↗ just keep in mind of future Acquisitions

35:32 ↗ that's also going to be an issue I mean

35:34 ↗ we might run across them seven or eight

35:37 ↗ eight acre parcel at some point to turn

35:40 ↗ into a park and it's not going to fall

35:42 ↗ within either of these classifications

35:44 ↗ the way it's written so

35:46 ↗ something needs to be done with that Gap

35:48 ↗ and I guess I'll leave it up to you what

35:51 ↗ that best thing would be I would drop

35:53 ↗ the community maybe down to five instead

35:55 ↗ of ten as a solution to that but as you

35:59 ↗ pointed out Jeff uh

36:02 ↗ um maybe that's just too minimal amount

36:04 ↗ of acreage for a community park given

36:07 ↗ all the other areas

36:09 ↗ um

36:10 ↗ one thing that I've been an advocate of

36:12 ↗ for some time

36:15 ↗ uh is public art

36:17 ↗ and interpretive signage

36:19 ↗ uh we have a lot of educational

36:21 ↗ opportunities in our Park system and

36:24 ↗ interpretive signage is a good way of

36:26 ↗ accomplishing uh that education

36:29 ↗ there isn't really anything in these

36:31 ↗ classifications about public art and I

36:33 ↗ think this is a good time to start that

36:35 ↗ discussion about where public art should

36:38 ↗ be within our Park system

36:40 ↗ I mean I think that Jacob two trees is a

36:43 ↗ perfect in my opinion the best thing

36:46 ↗ that the city has has produced in terms

36:50 ↗ of public art in a very long time and

36:53 ↗ here it is in a linear Park along

36:55 ↗ Rainier Trail so I think we need to talk

36:58 ↗ more about that in terms of where it's

37:01 ↗ appropriate to put public art and

37:03 ↗ interpretive signage the only language

37:05 ↗ on interpretive signage that I saw is in

37:07 ↗ the new language of even that might be

37:10 ↗ missing in nature parks it was in the

37:12 ↗ resource Park language before

37:15 ↗ um and and so we need to we need to

37:17 ↗ include that somewhere and I would be

37:19 ↗ more Broad in scope of that because even

37:22 ↗ some of our community parks

37:25 ↗ um and neighborhood parks I could see

37:27 ↗ potential for uh public art and

37:30 ↗ interpretive signage um you know I I

37:32 ↗ look at Veterans Memorial as a perfect

37:34 ↗ example of the amount of History that's

37:37 ↗ involved in that park at some point uh

37:40 ↗ public art and interpretive signage

37:42 ↗ might be appropriate to uh to that Park

37:46 ↗ um and so you don't want to necessarily

37:48 ↗ just restrict that to linear Parks or

37:50 ↗ Greenway

37:52 ↗ um and so I would be an advocate to

37:55 ↗ included in community parks

37:58 ↗ and also maybe even neighborhood parks

38:01 ↗ or really all of classifications I could

38:04 ↗ see the potential for it

38:07 ↗ um and I think that that covers my main

38:11 ↗ points thanks

38:14 ↗ great Point Brad thank you um just to

38:17 ↗ you know add your your comment of public

38:19 ↗ art really good as we think of

38:21 ↗ classifications but also I think an

38:24 ↗ important thing to think about as we

38:25 ↗ talk goals and policies and are our

38:28 ↗ goals and policies speaking to that

38:31 ↗ desire intent interest if if you know

38:34 ↗ that is a collective interest which I

38:35 ↗ think it is I just are we taking the

38:38 ↗ opportunities for storytelling

38:40 ↗ storytelling through both public art and

38:43 ↗ interpretive signs

38:44 ↗ um for for these Park spaces so really

38:48 ↗ good thanks for that

38:50 ↗ um your thought on community parks and

38:53 ↗ neighborhood parks agreed and both Chris

38:56 ↗ and David brought it up as well

38:58 ↗ um yeah Rob and I can take a look and

39:01 ↗ again sort of see what

39:04 ↗ um

39:04 ↗ some of our what our best practices

39:07 ↗ amongst some of our neighboring

39:09 ↗ jurisdictions what are some best

39:11 ↗ practices of jurisdictions of our same

39:13 ↗ size again we're an immensely

39:14 ↗ constrained City we have a mentally

39:17 ↗ constrained Park system

39:19 ↗ um so

39:21 ↗ um yeah we'll we'll try and be really

39:23 ↗ smart with and bring something back to

39:25 ↗ you all

39:26 ↗ um and some of you saw my hand gestures

39:29 ↗ we might even think of something as

39:31 ↗ creative as you know a community park

39:35 ↗ acreage size in a neighborhood Park

39:38 ↗ acreage size don't have to meet in one

39:40 ↗ place there could actually be a little

39:42 ↗ bit of overlap

39:44 ↗ um and and let the function of the it's

39:47 ↗ not just always the acreage but the

39:50 ↗ function the proximity the geography of

39:52 ↗ that Park could also play in so we'll

39:55 ↗ again look at some best practices and

39:57 ↗ try and give us ample

40:00 ↗ um flexibility and Clarity at the same

40:02 ↗ time

40:05 ↗ I have a couple things

40:08 ↗ um so echoing David's comment about

40:11 ↗ examples of which Park's been what

40:14 ↗ classification because I have as a city

40:16 ↗ kid I don't totally have A Great Notion

40:19 ↗ of like how big is 10 acres and which

40:21 ↗ Parks fall into that classification

40:23 ↗ versus not and so it's helpful to have

40:25 ↗ some point of reference of okay it

40:27 ↗ doesn't functionally make sense if this

40:29 ↗ is what a commuting Park is this is

40:31 ↗ which parts would fall into that

40:32 ↗ category

40:33 ↗ and then I was curious about that there

40:35 ↗ was some

40:36 ↗ description in there about one-third or

40:39 ↗ one quarter of the park being dedicated

40:41 ↗ for active recreational activities

40:45 ↗ and wondering if that was

40:48 ↗ like how strict that is like if it's

40:51 ↗ could it be more and should it be more

40:53 ↗ or should it be less or is it flexible

40:55 ↗ like is it basically um a guideline or a

40:59 ↗ prescription in terms of how we think

41:01 ↗ about the the actual way that the parks

41:04 ↗ are used and then um sorry last one was

41:08 ↗ the the trails piece and you were kind

41:10 ↗ of explaining this Jeff but I didn't

41:11 ↗ quite follow in terms of

41:14 ↗ how from the old or existing

41:16 ↗ classification the new classification

41:19 ↗ what what the implications are for how

41:21 ↗ we think about trails and our Trails

41:23 ↗ essentially now Greenways and linear

41:25 ↗ Parks or is Trail something totally

41:26 ↗ different and so we can just use a

41:28 ↗ little bit more clarity on

41:30 ↗ how that pans out in the new system

41:33 ↗ yeah yeah

41:35 ↗ really good

41:37 ↗ um

41:38 ↗ maybe the last one first

41:40 ↗ um in terms of I think the thought of

41:45 ↗ trails and connectivity are really

41:47 ↗ really important in this community

41:49 ↗ um a parse a part classification is

41:53 ↗ meant to be a way of defining describing

41:57 ↗ categorizing

42:00 ↗ Parcels of land so the classification

42:03 ↗ goes with the land not with the amenity

42:06 ↗ a trail is a really important amenity

42:10 ↗ within a park

42:12 ↗ right and so

42:14 ↗ um we think Trail classifications are

42:17 ↗ are just as just as important and just

42:19 ↗ as critical I think as we're looking at

42:21 ↗ connectivity we might be able where

42:25 ↗ we're connecting with land and have

42:28 ↗ either ownership or a classification

42:31 ↗ that becomes a grainway

42:33 ↗ right so the the part classification is

42:37 ↗ classifying the the land itself

42:40 ↗ um there could be a trail in that green

42:43 ↗ way right but in some cases we might

42:46 ↗ have trails that

42:49 ↗ um are just a trail and don't

42:51 ↗ necessarily have

42:53 ↗ the land ownership or a a swath of land

42:57 ↗ or a parcel of land that we own

43:00 ↗ underneath

43:01 ↗ the classification they would fall

43:04 ↗ outside the park classification but they

43:06 ↗ would be classified as a trail right

43:08 ↗ what's the trail goal that we have or

43:11 ↗ let's say you know so many of our

43:14 ↗ Wilderness trails are on a park that's

43:17 ↗ classified as open space

43:19 ↗ and we also have the trail right so they

43:23 ↗ in many cases they live together

43:26 ↗ um it's just a way of making sure we're

43:28 ↗ not trying to classify really important

43:31 ↗ Park and really important amenities

43:33 ↗ we're not trying to classify them as a a

43:36 ↗ part classification themselves um I hope

43:39 ↗ I'm not making that too confusing your

43:42 ↗ second question had to do with

43:45 ↗ um the active activity yeah the the

43:47 ↗ scalability you know that those and

43:50 ↗ please jump in on it I'll take my my

43:53 ↗ first shot at it that idea of at least

43:55 ↗ one-third is active or at least a

43:58 ↗ portion of it is active there's not a

44:00 ↗ it's not meant to be a prescribed amount

44:03 ↗ um super flexible there and I think it's

44:06 ↗ meant to read as at least that

44:09 ↗ percentage of it is active a higher

44:12 ↗ percentage of it could be active but I

44:14 ↗ think within those classifications

44:15 ↗ community park and neighborhood park and

44:18 ↗ as you look at all of those those really

44:20 ↗ are the two classifications that denote

44:23 ↗ active developed

44:25 ↗ Parkland right that you know and I think

44:28 ↗ we're trying to say in our

44:30 ↗ classification there's a there's a

44:33 ↗ there's an intentional development this

44:36 ↗ is meant to be a developed partner

44:38 ↗ to be a community park or a neighborhood

44:40 ↗ park

44:41 ↗ um but it also doesn't mean 100 of it

44:43 ↗ needs to be right in many cases

44:46 ↗ um there are neighborhood parks that

44:48 ↗ have those active amenities but can

44:51 ↗ still

44:52 ↗ look and feel very much like a

44:55 ↗ forested space Hillside Park's probably

44:57 ↗ a great example right that's a

44:59 ↗ neighborhood park but that it we're not

45:01 ↗ saying as a neighborhood park it needs

45:03 ↗ to somehow look and feel like a because

45:05 ↗ that neighborhood doesn't want a highly

45:09 ↗ developed part so it's it's meant to

45:12 ↗ just function more as a hey there's a

45:15 ↗ degree of there's an intentionality that

45:17 ↗ it's actively developed that it's

45:18 ↗ developed but it doesn't

45:21 ↗ entirely have to be developed right it's

45:23 ↗ effective like a field that you can

45:25 ↗ reserve for a sports event or is it like

45:27 ↗ a playground that's active yeah active

45:31 ↗ and well developed in terms of yeah it's

45:34 ↗ it's

45:35 ↗ adult field it's an irrigated law it's a

45:38 ↗ playground it's a it's a picnic shelters

45:40 ↗ it's

45:41 ↗ um

45:42 ↗ you know Tibbetts Valley Park versus

45:45 ↗ um

45:47 ↗ Harvey Manning Park burning spot right

45:50 ↗ um perks was not going to be a community

45:52 ↗ park or a neighborhood park it's just

45:54 ↗ really meant to be a corridor up into

46:00 ↗ this

46:01 ↗ so really good

46:04 ↗ I and again these weren't efforts at

46:06 ↗ trying to create descriptions I I think

46:08 ↗ and and just hearing this discussion I

46:11 ↗ think a next step for Robin and I is to

46:13 ↗ really say all right let's

46:16 ↗ let's take these classifications let's

46:18 ↗ start to prescribe our our Parkland to

46:21 ↗ it

46:22 ↗ so we can sort of see proportionally how

46:24 ↗ does it play out and then take a little

46:27 ↗ bit more Issaquah Centric attempt at the

46:31 ↗ at the descriptions so describing them

46:33 ↗ so they're really describing Issaquah

46:35 ↗ system it's not

46:37 ↗ sort of just a generic description

46:42 ↗ I think one thing that could be helpful

46:43 ↗ especially for Community Parks is having

46:46 ↗ a dimension of

46:48 ↗ people that flow through it so it's not

46:51 ↗ just it's 50 acres Community Markets

46:53 ↗ also I would argue pedestrian Park is a

46:55 ↗ community

46:56 ↗ Park it's small it's less than an acre

46:57 ↗ but thousands of people want through it

46:59 ↗ like every month right so

47:01 ↗ um having that Dimension would Hilton

47:03 ↗ really good in terms of use yeah sort of

47:06 ↗ intensity of use yeah

47:09 ↗ you bring up a great Point David and I I

47:11 ↗ guess I'll tease up you know as we look

47:14 ↗ at how again how do our Parks function

47:17 ↗ you know there's a collective

47:19 ↗ classification when you look at

47:21 ↗ pedestrian Park Depot Park Veterans

47:24 ↗ Memorial Field the senior center right

47:28 ↗ those

47:29 ↗ in their collection function as a

47:33 ↗ community park right okay right

47:35 ↗ um to get to the very thing you're

47:37 ↗ saying yeah

47:38 ↗ yeah

47:40 ↗ [Music]

47:41 ↗ I think

47:43 ↗ um

47:47 ↗ it will be good to know as well your

47:50 ↗ plans for allocating

47:53 ↗ the percentage of development for

47:55 ↗ classification it's not fully clear

47:59 ↗ with your comparison if you're you're

48:03 ↗ changing any allegations or development

48:06 ↗ for our classification

48:09 ↗ um so it will be impossible to know that

48:12 ↗ as well

48:14 ↗ um it also each classification also

48:17 ↗ doesn't have every classification are

48:22 ↗ all above one acre so I'm curious if it

48:26 ↗ has been considered that

48:28 ↗ smaller parts can exist too and if

48:31 ↗ that's a classification that um marks

48:34 ↗ being considered as well

48:37 ↗ and I think

48:41 ↗ um also the

48:44 ↗ gym

48:45 ↗ the additional classifications like

48:48 ↗ gateways and linear paths I think it

48:51 ↗ will be helpful because you talked about

48:53 ↗ updating your art goals

48:56 ↗ how do the additional

49:00 ↗ classifications title the goals of the

49:03 ↗ city yeah are you planning or 80 of the

49:07 ↗ city to have access to Greenways or

49:10 ↗ living practices

49:13 ↗ we did

49:18 ↗ so somebody's how does this work with

49:20 ↗ classifications

49:23 ↗ the foundational work of the

49:25 ↗ classifications also mesh with the

49:27 ↗ foundational work of the goals and

49:28 ↗ policies

49:30 ↗ it's really good

49:34 ↗ a couple

49:36 ↗ um on the trail classifications

49:38 ↗ I don't know if you can pull that one up

49:43 ↗ yeah so

49:46 ↗ the

49:47 ↗ code with the new adoptive code is

49:50 ↗ switching from urban trail

49:53 ↗ to multi-purpose Trail

49:56 ↗ urban trail is our initial term original

49:58 ↗ term yeah and then the code is has

50:02 ↗ multi-purpose Trail now okay and that

50:05 ↗ seems fine but I think the switch from

50:07 ↗ natural trails to Forest path I know

50:10 ↗ it's maybe not something we can change

50:11 ↗ and prepare but it seems almost more

50:14 ↗ restrictive you know we might have all

50:17 ↗ kinds of different paths that aren't all

50:18 ↗ forested you know it seemed like they

50:20 ↗ they made a mistake there and

50:24 ↗ you know limiting that that way so

50:26 ↗ something we may have to

50:28 ↗ as we try to fit but know that we can't

50:32 ↗ be perfectly yeah no really good yeah

50:34 ↗ the table on the left represents and

50:37 ↗ that's pulled out of the new Carl and

50:39 ↗ again but you're right Chris I mean to

50:41 ↗ the point that we as we try and align

50:43 ↗ with it

50:44 ↗ um if we need to make sure we're still

50:47 ↗ clearly

50:49 ↗ um

50:50 ↗ defining and classifying the the types

50:53 ↗ of trails we have within our our city

50:55 ↗ system we need to make sure we're doing

50:56 ↗ that

50:57 ↗ or just give them the Post-it note for

51:00 ↗ the next time yeah yeah

51:04 ↗ um but um you know another comment more

51:06 ↗ yeah that was his focus on two words

51:10 ↗ um

51:11 ↗ I think overall the idea of you know

51:13 ↗ updating our Trail classification or

51:15 ↗ sorry our Park classifications is

51:18 ↗ valuable and I think what has been

51:20 ↗ brought up about use and

51:22 ↗ uh you know how many users are visiting

51:25 ↗ and then how many people have access to

51:28 ↗ it

51:29 ↗ I don't even know exactly how the you

51:32 ↗ would do this but maybe if there's a

51:34 ↗ possible way to examine uh you know

51:38 ↗ currently we are

51:39 ↗ 80 of the parks fall into this or 20 or

51:42 ↗ this and 30 or that and however this or

51:44 ↗ whatever

51:45 ↗ and then then just maybe look at like

51:47 ↗ what our next

51:49 ↗ projects are that are actually you know

51:51 ↗ on the Capital Improvements plan don't

51:52 ↗ say this would kind of push us in these

51:55 ↗ directions and maybe look

51:57 ↗ evaluate that way it's a really

51:59 ↗ direction we want to go how are we

52:01 ↗ almost proportionally investing across

52:04 ↗ these classifications and some you know

52:07 ↗ some things like you know City councils

52:09 ↗ decisions about how to spend the hour of

52:11 ↗ money might affect

52:14 ↗ Ed

52:26 ↗ anything else really helpful

52:32 ↗ thank you all

52:36 ↗ thank you

52:42 ↗ foreign

53:07 ↗ the next item is dog park

53:11 ↗ so I'll assaulty and it

53:15 ↗ 'd be remiss as I introduce Robin and

53:17 ↗ yes we're so excited to have Robin here

53:19 ↗ I just want to give a big thank you to

53:21 ↗ Asante Ender Rick still on the park

53:24 ↗ operations manager both is out there and

53:27 ↗ Rick Have Been instrumental this summer

53:29 ↗ as we've continued a lot of this work

53:33 ↗ moving forward in terms of design

53:35 ↗ projects something will continue to play

53:37 ↗ a pretty key role in these these Park

53:40 ↗ projects as Robin's coming on board and

53:42 ↗ she lends support to the whole

53:43 ↗ department and one of those is

53:45 ↗ the dog park so let you guys take it

53:49 ↗ away yeah

53:57 ↗ um to the Rainier Trail Dog Park

53:59 ↗ um we've had a couple of conversations

54:01 ↗ with our consultant updating based on uh

54:04 ↗ both our discussion here at the

54:05 ↗ cardboard and some of the other public

54:07 ↗ um comments that have come through

54:10 ↗ um and we just want to sort of go

54:11 ↗ through our current status what has

54:15 ↗ um changed and updated within the

54:18 ↗ conceptual plan and then talk through

54:20 ↗ our next step

54:22 ↗ um

54:28 ↗ do you want to talk about sort of the

54:31 ↗ things I guess for the revised

54:35 ↗ okay okay all right

54:38 ↗ um so basically based on our

54:40 ↗ conversation from the first conceptual

54:42 ↗ plan

54:44 ↗ um we have some updates that were shared

54:47 ↗ at the park tour I believe um that you a

54:50 ↗ few of you that were able to join us for

54:51 ↗ that

54:52 ↗ um so we just wanted to share that with

54:53 ↗ the larger board

54:55 ↗ um and then talk about the surveying and

54:59 ↗ permitting that has already happened on

55:02 ↗ that area

55:03 ↗ um and some next steps with that

55:05 ↗ um there we've talked about this and it

55:07 ↗ was included in your agenda packet the

55:10 ↗ Watershed company Wetland delineation

55:13 ↗ report from 2020 for that area

55:16 ↗ um and then at the end we will go

55:18 ↗ through the Rivalry vacation process

55:20 ↗ that we are working on that is also part

55:23 ↗ of this park

55:24 ↗ um and we'll go through our permitting

55:27 ↗ so this is the concept that you all saw

55:30 ↗ originally and gave us lots of really

55:32 ↗ great awesome feedback we also had our

55:34 ↗ open house at the dog and got some good

55:37 ↗ feedback about the features that make

55:39 ↗ sense the things that maybe don't

55:42 ↗ um and what we heard is that we do want

55:46 ↗ to keep the two entry and exit gates so

55:49 ↗ one at the front end of the park and

55:52 ↗ then one over

55:53 ↗ um at the side of the trail

55:55 ↗ um

55:56 ↗ for for folks to enter and leave from

55:59 ↗ that side of Rainier Trail

56:01 ↗ um that the servicing will likely be

56:03 ↗ bark surfacing

56:05 ↗ um that shade structures will be

56:07 ↗ included so thank you I know Marlene you

56:09 ↗ talked about that last meeting as well

56:12 ↗ um and there was consensus that keeping

56:14 ↗ a small shy dog area within the park

56:18 ↗ um would be uh added at first with the

56:21 ↗ flexibility that if that use doesn't

56:23 ↗ warrant keeping that space that there's

56:25 ↗ the opportunity to change that to a

56:28 ↗ larger dog run

56:29 ↗ um based on use

56:31 ↗ um and that we will have water stations

56:33 ↗ but not a dog washing station so all the

56:36 ↗ things that we talked about last time

56:40 ↗ um here's some more

56:42 ↗ features of the the options for the

56:46 ↗ features that may go into the park we

56:49 ↗ are still looking at dog water fountain

56:54 ↗ options that allow for Less clogging in

56:58 ↗ that bottom area because that was also

57:00 ↗ feedback that we got lots of kids and

57:04 ↗ dogs themselves like to put bark in that

57:07 ↗ area and we don't want that to clog and

57:09 ↗ so we're looking at different options

57:10 ↗ for that we will be going with uh wood

57:14 ↗ fencing and the mulch in the main area

57:16 ↗ and then this is one of the um a similar

57:20 ↗ structure for the one of the shade

57:21 ↗ structures that will be included

57:26 ↗ um so oh

57:33 ↗ um but with those changes that we talked

57:36 ↗ about for this plan

57:40 ↗ um

57:41 ↗ is there anything else that we feel is

57:44 ↗ missing from the concept

57:47 ↗ um

57:50 ↗ maybe I'm gonna I'm gonna skip this

57:52 ↗ first question until we get to the end

57:53 ↗ of it

57:54 ↗ um but just to make wanted to make note

57:57 ↗ that we do already have two memorial

57:58 ↗ benches that have been donated for this

58:01 ↗ area so there will definitely be at

58:03 ↗ least two benches within the dog park

58:06 ↗ um there is an option here to ask if

58:09 ↗ there are any other additional Memorial

58:11 ↗ or dedication programs within the dog

58:14 ↗ park that we would like to have as an

58:17 ↗ option

58:19 ↗ um

58:22 ↗ okay

58:25 ↗ um

58:27 ↗ so I'm going to

58:33 ↗ while you're doing that I don't think

58:34 ↗ maybe I can talk next steps as well and

58:37 ↗ then we can really just open it up for

58:39 ↗ discussion I know there's audience

58:41 ↗ comment yeah just real quick if you

58:42 ↗ could maybe give us a reminder about

58:44 ↗ schedule and requirements for this as

58:47 ↗ well

58:48 ↗ yeah and our next steps yeah yeah

58:53 ↗ I'm gonna pass out a couple copies

58:56 ↗ conceptual plans

58:59 ↗ um

59:01 ↗ it might it's up I think

59:05 ↗ I'll go back

59:07 ↗ with different Graphics but it's very

59:09 ↗ very cool oh maybe this is the older one

59:11 ↗ yeah

59:13 ↗ it's amazing

59:20 ↗ there should be

59:22 ↗ so

59:25 ↗ um in terms of next steps again yes it's

59:28 ↗ open to discussion I know of course you

59:31 ↗ want to open it up for audience comment

59:33 ↗ so as we're now sort of at this point of

59:37 ↗ really

59:38 ↗ um being ready to finalize design

59:42 ↗ um one of the one of the things that the

59:45 ↗ new code allows us to do and what we

59:47 ↗ want to do is we've been talking with uh

59:49 ↗ Community planning and development is we

59:51 ↗ want to do and plan to do a technical

59:53 ↗ document review

59:55 ↗ um the new code allows us to do this you

59:59 ↗ notice in the

1:00:01 ↗ um in the agenda packet we included the

1:00:05 ↗ Wetland report The Watershed company did

1:00:07 ↗ for us as part of this project dog park

1:00:10 ↗ project

1:00:12 ↗ um

1:00:14 ↗ um the technical document review really

1:00:16 ↗ lets us

1:00:18 ↗ um work with Community Planning and

1:00:20 ↗ Development to and really ask them to

1:00:23 ↗ review

1:00:24 ↗ all the critical area studies ours as

1:00:28 ↗ well as any previous critical area

1:00:30 ↗ studies and give us Clarity we and you

1:00:34 ↗ know as we do these projects

1:00:36 ↗ um we're the applicant we're not we're

1:00:39 ↗ not the regulator and so as the

1:00:41 ↗ applicants we're really seeking as sort

1:00:45 ↗ of a next step for our permitting is

1:00:47 ↗ Clarity on that critical area review

1:00:51 ↗ as we review the request that technical

1:00:54 ↗ review we'll get a response back from

1:00:58 ↗ from planning that will give us that

1:01:01 ↗ that Clarity uh in regards to the

1:01:03 ↗ critical areas and any buffers that

1:01:06 ↗ might there might be once that Clarity

1:01:09 ↗ is provided to us through that technical

1:01:11 ↗ document review we'll then be able to

1:01:14 ↗ finalize and submit our actual

1:01:17 ↗ application

1:01:18 ↗ with

1:01:20 ↗ our proposed design and any informed

1:01:24 ↗ design elements that we need to include

1:01:28 ↗ as it pertains to

1:01:30 ↗ pertains to any critical areas so it's a

1:01:33 ↗ new Step within the code I think it's a

1:01:35 ↗ really

1:01:36 ↗ from the applicant standpoint it's it's

1:01:38 ↗ a nice step to have a good step that

1:01:41 ↗ gives us that gives us that Clarity and

1:01:45 ↗ asks for them to verify

1:01:47 ↗ again the work that was done by

1:01:49 ↗ Watershed company in 2020 and making

1:01:52 ↗ sure that that is accurate and is a

1:01:56 ↗ clear

1:01:58 ↗ um

1:02:01 ↗ um

1:02:02 ↗ report and Analysis the planning and how

1:02:06 ↗ planning is going to sort of interpret

1:02:08 ↗ or not interpret but

1:02:10 ↗ um identify those critical areas and

1:02:13 ↗ buffers

1:02:15 ↗ um and then from there we'll submit

1:02:17 ↗ um the final actual submittal of the

1:02:19 ↗ application and and proceed so

1:02:23 ↗ timeline for that the goal for that is

1:02:26 ↗ um as it has been permitting process

1:02:29 ↗ this fall and

1:02:32 ↗ being able to bid and construct this

1:02:35 ↗ project in 2024

1:02:38 ↗ so we estimate given the size of the dog

1:02:42 ↗ park it's proximity construction is not

1:02:45 ↗ going to be lengthy is so as lengthy as

1:02:48 ↗ some of our other other projects this is

1:02:50 ↗ probably an eight week eight week

1:02:53 ↗ construction so we would anticipate

1:02:57 ↗ this facility opening in 2024

1:03:03 ↗ um I'd also love to touch on and just

1:03:05 ↗ remind you maybe as we go into

1:03:07 ↗ discussion dog parks and and why why

1:03:12 ↗ this and why the size and again I I

1:03:15 ↗ appreciate it Steve's uh prayers

1:03:17 ↗ question and in audience comment

1:03:20 ↗ um you may recall as a pre-pandemic we

1:03:23 ↗ were go went through a community

1:03:25 ↗ exercise of trying to identify and

1:03:27 ↗ locate a dog park uh with an idea of

1:03:31 ↗ what would it look like to have a

1:03:32 ↗ singular dog park serving all of

1:03:34 ↗ Issaquah

1:03:36 ↗ as I think that exercise unfolded

1:03:39 ↗ um recognized a potential location and a

1:03:43 ↗ location in Tibbetts Valley Park that's

1:03:45 ↗ still is is a possession of an area

1:03:49 ↗ that's going to be considered for a dog

1:03:50 ↗ park

1:03:51 ↗ um it was it was becoming clear and

1:03:54 ↗ clearer that trying to find that five to

1:03:57 ↗ ten acre

1:03:58 ↗ um singular dog park that's going to

1:04:00 ↗ serve Issaquah given the constraints of

1:04:02 ↗ our land and our community is really

1:04:06 ↗ really hard you may recall through the

1:04:08 ↗ pandemic haven't we had some discussions

1:04:10 ↗ around you know do we rather than trying

1:04:14 ↗ to find that and be a one dog park town

1:04:17 ↗ that provides one large dog park that

1:04:20 ↗ tries to serve the entire Community

1:04:22 ↗ perhaps we need to face a reality of

1:04:25 ↗ what our system is and perhaps we're

1:04:28 ↗ better served rather than having one

1:04:31 ↗ you know I'll split the difference one

1:04:32 ↗ seven acre dog park do we consider

1:04:34 ↗ having a couple of dog parks that are uh

1:04:38 ↗ you know anywhere from one acre to a

1:04:40 ↗ couple acres and rather than having

1:04:44 ↗ um a concentrated approach to providing

1:04:47 ↗ that service

1:04:48 ↗ um a more dispersed approach and having

1:04:52 ↗ multiple smaller dog parks through town

1:04:55 ↗ as we had that discussion there was a

1:04:57 ↗ lot of consensus among the park board a

1:05:00 ↗ lot of support amongst mayor and Council

1:05:02 ↗ in recognizing

1:05:05 ↗ um really the realities of our system as

1:05:08 ↗ we try and fit these amenities into our

1:05:10 ↗ Park system that it was a an approach

1:05:13 ↗ that was supported so a little bit of

1:05:15 ↗ context there to Steve's really good

1:05:17 ↗ question

1:05:21 ↗ maybe we're at a good point to if we're

1:05:23 ↗ going to go into discussion before we do

1:05:25 ↗ that to give Corey a chance to do his

1:05:28 ↗ provide this input all right thank you

1:05:31 ↗ first I want to make a quick comment on

1:05:33 ↗ the park plan uh for classifications

1:05:36 ↗ welcoming uh Robin and asking her to do

1:05:39 ↗ one favor don't forget everything you

1:05:42 ↗ learned before you got here because your

1:05:44 ↗ fresh eyes are going to be really

1:05:45 ↗ important now I'm going to start out I

1:05:48 ↗ was definitely disagreeing with all of

1:05:50 ↗ you on this classification thing because

1:05:54 ↗ I think the beginning Point ought to be

1:05:56 ↗ looking at what other cities have what

1:05:59 ↗ if you know if if the classification for

1:06:01 ↗ one particular kind of part is 10 acres

1:06:03 ↗ it's 10 acres though now I realize that

1:06:06 ↗ on some of these classifications there's

1:06:08 ↗ a little wiggle room on what they are

1:06:10 ↗ but it's basically if it's one pound

1:06:12 ↗ it's one pound one of the flaws in that

1:06:15 ↗ we've made over the years is we we

1:06:17 ↗ immediately go into the kind of

1:06:19 ↗ discussion you guys were all having

1:06:20 ↗ which is how does our part system fit

1:06:23 ↗ and then let's just change the

1:06:25 ↗ classification to fit what with whatever

1:06:27 ↗ we have now I think what we have is

1:06:30 ↗ important but also if 10 acres is the

1:06:32 ↗ number and what we have is an eight a

1:06:34 ↗ five and a four that we're putting in

1:06:36 ↗ that classification then what we have to

1:06:38 ↗ do is justify the function the

1:06:42 ↗ functionality sort of what Jeff was

1:06:44 ↗ talking about is that five acre Park in

1:06:47 ↗ functionally a 10 acre like a 10 acre

1:06:50 ↗ court or it's not because the thing that

1:06:52 ↗ we lose out if we're not honest and use

1:06:55 ↗ classifications that are the same that

1:06:57 ↗ everybody else uses then we don't start

1:06:59 ↗ bringing forward the deficits we have

1:07:02 ↗ and we also don't highlight our ultra

1:07:04 ↗ high points we have super high points in

1:07:07 ↗ our system open space these linear

1:07:10 ↗ Trails all of this sort of thing we have

1:07:12 ↗ a lot of and we've done a lot of good

1:07:13 ↗ things as far as preserving

1:07:16 ↗ land around Issaquah Creek and all this

1:07:19 ↗ kind of thing but we're really sure work

1:07:21 ↗ on active Recreation and we're

1:07:24 ↗ especially short on that moving forward

1:07:26 ↗ and so if we're not honest and if these

1:07:28 ↗ classifications aren't

1:07:30 ↗ what they are but they need to be not

1:07:33 ↗ what they are but what they should be

1:07:34 ↗ and I think there's some little room but

1:07:37 ↗ a pound needs to be about

1:07:39 ↗ on the on the dog park

1:07:41 ↗ I'm going to disagree a little bit with

1:07:43 ↗ Jeff's parting comment about the seven

1:07:45 ↗ to ten acres I think very early on in

1:07:48 ↗ the discussions five years ago we were

1:07:50 ↗ pretty well down to two acres because we

1:07:53 ↗ realized there wasn't anything in the

1:07:54 ↗ city that was going to be seven to ten

1:07:56 ↗ acres and that two acres was kind of the

1:07:59 ↗ number and again this particular

1:08:01 ↗ location was one we kicked out very

1:08:04 ↗ quickly because it's so fun now you know

1:08:08 ↗ it is sort of what it is and so at that

1:08:11 ↗ point this is where we are but we still

1:08:13 ↗ have to be honest about that this

1:08:15 ↗ particular design still bothers me on on

1:08:19 ↗ a couple of levels

1:08:21 ↗ um water bothers me because I think in

1:08:24 ↗ the beginning of the process same would

1:08:26 ↗ go if we were looking at Tibbetts Valley

1:08:28 ↗ Park we need to be looking at does this

1:08:31 ↗ particular piece of land drain is there

1:08:33 ↗ groundwater that comes up and is there

1:08:36 ↗ storm water that comes down on this

1:08:37 ↗ particular property I don't I don't

1:08:40 ↗ really know is in an area of of Issaquah

1:08:44 ↗ where groundwater shouldn't be as an

1:08:47 ↗ issue but for example maybe storm water

1:08:50 ↗ is maybe storm water comes off of Second

1:08:52 ↗ Avenue and so that's important because a

1:08:56 ↗ dog park needs to be dry it needs to be

1:08:58 ↗ dry year round and when I say dry it

1:09:01 ↗ means it needs to drain really well

1:09:02 ↗ Mercer Island's dog park has been

1:09:05 ↗ remodeled it's a magnificent job Mercer

1:09:07 ↗ Island parks deserves a great shout out

1:09:09 ↗ because their dog bark drop is dry in

1:09:12 ↗ the winter I've been in there in

1:09:14 ↗ absolute pouring rain and it can be

1:09:16 ↗ pouring rain and they don't have puddles

1:09:19 ↗ I mean there's water around and the

1:09:21 ↗ minute it stops raining whoosh water is

1:09:23 ↗ gone because one of the things with the

1:09:25 ↗ dog park is really more of a science

1:09:27 ↗ project than a beauty contest at least

1:09:29 ↗ the first part of it you have to meet

1:09:31 ↗ the criteria of a science project first

1:09:33 ↗ and that's one of the reasons I'm not a

1:09:36 ↗ big fan of any sort of wood chips

1:09:38 ↗ because they end up becoming biohazards

1:09:42 ↗ if they're if they're not kept

1:09:44 ↗ nice and dry one of my

1:09:47 ↗ comments about this design is it's it's

1:09:50 ↗ still been you know either this or that

1:09:53 ↗ as far as the surround either being a

1:09:55 ↗ gravel or some kind of path other than

1:09:58 ↗ concrete but looking at the the fiber

1:10:02 ↗ people the fiber and the people that

1:10:04 ↗ make the

1:10:06 ↗ the chips they say You're supposed to

1:10:08 ↗ avoid contamination of this engineered

1:10:11 ↗ wood with any kind of sand gravel mud or

1:10:14 ↗ native soil and if you look I looked

1:10:16 ↗ online at a number of their

1:10:17 ↗ installations and they all have us

1:10:19 ↗ either cement curbing or a sidewalk

1:10:21 ↗ around some parks the cement curving is

1:10:24 ↗ used to plant their fence in so it's

1:10:26 ↗ sort of wall-to-wall some it's a

1:10:29 ↗ separate curb thing in some it's a

1:10:31 ↗ walkway I think this particular Park

1:10:34 ↗ could ought to be a walkway because

1:10:35 ↗ again when you read about this five hour

1:10:37 ↗ product one of the problems is it's hard

1:10:40 ↗ to walk on hard to walk on when it's

1:10:42 ↗ used in around play structures but hard

1:10:45 ↗ to walk on with dog parks and not so

1:10:48 ↗ much for normal people but for senior

1:10:50 ↗ citizens and and people's disabilities

1:10:53 ↗ and that's important because if a dog

1:10:55 ↗ poops into the middle of a park they

1:10:57 ↗ need to be able to go out and get it so

1:10:59 ↗ having actually a sidewalk that went in

1:11:01 ↗ a circle around it which would be

1:11:02 ↗ similar to what Bellevue building is

1:11:04 ↗ Robinswood park has after their remodel

1:11:07 ↗ would make a lot of sense it would make

1:11:10 ↗ it easier for people to move through the

1:11:12 ↗ other thing that another easy comment is

1:11:15 ↗ that or easy fix is that look front

1:11:18 ↗ loading all of everything at that bottom

1:11:21 ↗ entrance creates a situation where when

1:11:23 ↗ people come in they all stand right

1:11:25 ↗ there

1:11:25 ↗ and a lot of people will never walk out

1:11:28 ↗ into the middle if they're walking in

1:11:30 ↗ the mud or they're walking onto the

1:11:32 ↗ surface that's hard to walk on and so

1:11:35 ↗ having that walkway is going to be which

1:11:37 ↗ is going to encourage more circulation

1:11:40 ↗ through the park again if you look at

1:11:42 ↗ Robinswood Park in Bellevue which they

1:11:44 ↗ remodeled they made some nice design

1:11:46 ↗ choices there if you look diagonal on

1:11:49 ↗ your on your design where there's I

1:11:51 ↗ think it's a bench and it's and it's

1:11:53 ↗ where it mentions the uh no across right

1:11:56 ↗ from there right there that's about

1:11:59 ↗ where they have their shelter and an

1:12:01 ↗ easy fix for this park would be move the

1:12:04 ↗ shelter over there and bulge that out

1:12:06 ↗ slightly and if you then had a regular

1:12:09 ↗ walkway you'd at least get it so people

1:12:11 ↗ would walk into the park and some people

1:12:13 ↗ would go to the other end

1:12:15 ↗ um

1:12:16 ↗ and so those are the kinds of little

1:12:19 ↗ things I think would make would make a

1:12:21 ↗ significant difference in in this design

1:12:26 ↗ um he's not here but I'd like to give a

1:12:28 ↗ shout out to Tim because he's brought up

1:12:30 ↗ a lot of great comments about

1:12:33 ↗ um you know dogs owners dog parks and

1:12:37 ↗ he's an experienced dog owner trainer

1:12:39 ↗ and he says he doesn't use dog parts you

1:12:42 ↗ know he and I have gone back and forth

1:12:43 ↗ and we actually agree on on most things

1:12:46 ↗ and I'm a very experienced dog park user

1:12:49 ↗ matter of fact I've been using dog parks

1:12:51 ↗ in this area for about 35 years and I go

1:12:54 ↗ two to three times a week that's over

1:12:56 ↗ 100 times a year and and I've been in

1:13:00 ↗ the Parks my dogs have been sick gotten

1:13:02 ↗ sick in dog parks they've gotten bit

1:13:04 ↗ they've been in fights

1:13:06 ↗ I've been knocked over I've been injured

1:13:09 ↗ I've been bit I've seen all sorts of

1:13:11 ↗ this stuff happening and also you you

1:13:14 ↗ hear about all these things because in

1:13:15 ↗ dog parks because dog parks I should say

1:13:18 ↗ are really people Parks but they're dogs

1:13:21 ↗ there so you're talking most of the time

1:13:23 ↗ you're talking to people so you hear

1:13:25 ↗ about all this sort of thing and so some

1:13:28 ↗ of these design things are the kind of

1:13:30 ↗ things that the more experience you have

1:13:33 ↗ like I wouldn't go to this dog park

1:13:35 ↗ except very rarely because if it doesn't

1:13:38 ↗ drain or if I didn't know it drained and

1:13:41 ↗ if there isn't some circulation then

1:13:43 ↗ then the risks go up there you know dog

1:13:46 ↗ parks

1:13:48 ↗ Tim would say you can't control dog

1:13:50 ↗ owners and you can't control dogs which

1:13:53 ↗ is even the best trained dogs which is

1:13:56 ↗ why he's against going into a dog park

1:13:59 ↗ I agree with that but then there's also

1:14:02 ↗ the design of the dog park and then you

1:14:04 ↗ have this opportunity the the better the

1:14:06 ↗ design the more the the more circulation

1:14:09 ↗ you can get the more separation you can

1:14:11 ↗ get the better you're going to be

1:14:13 ↗ because what if you don't do that what

1:14:15 ↗ happens is if everybody's in a cluster

1:14:17 ↗ excited dogs come in that's when people

1:14:20 ↗ get knocked down that's when you have

1:14:22 ↗ more you know more trouble anyway

1:14:26 ↗ um all in all I hope that you can add

1:14:28 ↗ some of these kinds of things

1:14:30 ↗ I'd really recommend looking at what

1:14:32 ↗ these these fiber people say their

1:14:35 ↗ installation guide is because I think

1:14:37 ↗ that that should be driving some of

1:14:40 ↗ these decisions I think you're you're

1:14:42 ↗ close on some of it but I'd hate to see

1:14:44 ↗ after this all this work that we leave

1:14:48 ↗ out a cement pathway that could be there

1:14:50 ↗ and would make it would make a

1:14:52 ↗ tremendous difference one last quickie

1:14:55 ↗ on the water fountains the clock and

1:14:58 ↗ most of the time in a dog park the water

1:15:00 ↗ park fountains clogged because people

1:15:02 ↗ take the plastic boot bags and and clog

1:15:05 ↗ them because the fountains are designed

1:15:07 ↗ to drain so that again it's The

1:15:09 ↗ Biohazard thing and people

1:15:11 ↗ you know people circumvent that anyway

1:15:14 ↗ and yeah anyway that's enough anyway

1:15:18 ↗ thank you and uh

1:15:20 ↗ welcome Robin

1:15:24 ↗ thank you Corey so that now concludes

1:15:26 ↗ our public comment section and it's open

1:15:30 ↗ for board discussion

1:15:33 ↗ basic questions yeah yeah

1:15:36 ↗ um I agree I I like the idea of having

1:15:38 ↗ paved around as well for all the reasons

1:15:40 ↗ mentioned and all supposed to be in more

1:15:43 ↗ um

1:15:44 ↗ an Ecuador friendly part I also like the

1:15:46 ↗ idea of moving salty amenities around

1:15:49 ↗ the park so you're not getting the

1:15:50 ↗ cluster so agree with you on on both of

1:15:53 ↗ those components

1:15:55 ↗ um I'm curious at the size of this park

1:15:57 ↗ in comparison to what's already there is

1:15:59 ↗ it the same size or is it bigger it's

1:16:02 ↗ it's slightly bigger because it includes

1:16:05 ↗ some of the slope so right now the

1:16:08 ↗ current dog park fencing my mouth it

1:16:12 ↗ also doesn't go all the way to the

1:16:13 ↗ parking lot it kind of goes like where

1:16:16 ↗ the pathway is almost

1:16:22 ↗ maybe like halfway through this small

1:16:24 ↗ dog area so it doesn't extend all the

1:16:26 ↗ way through to the parking and can you

1:16:29 ↗ imagine what the dark brown like circle

1:16:30 ↗ like yeah so those are that is more

1:16:34 ↗ natural mulch area because it's part of

1:16:38 ↗ that sloped area and it's something

1:16:40 ↗ within the fence the dogs

1:16:43 ↗ could be around them

1:16:45 ↗ and the the two side sections have

1:16:48 ↗ existing trees that would be staying

1:16:52 ↗ there's some questions around drainage

1:16:54 ↗ is there any reason we think that's a

1:16:56 ↗ high risk in this space from the work

1:16:58 ↗ that you've all have done

1:17:05 ↗ but like is there anything specific to

1:17:07 ↗ the site that is making it a higher or

1:17:10 ↗ lower as we've seen it I mean it lived a

1:17:14 ↗ life as a skate park it's now lived a

1:17:17 ↗ life as a pop-up dog park for for a

1:17:20 ↗ couple of Seasons now

1:17:22 ↗ um it drains pretty well we've not seen

1:17:25 ↗ a massive uh puddling issue um it's

1:17:30 ↗ certainly something we're going to want

1:17:31 ↗ to pay attention to in the final design

1:17:33 ↗ and something we'll want to pay

1:17:35 ↗ attention to what we think the the

1:17:37 ↗ technical document report will be really

1:17:40 ↗ really informative on some of those

1:17:43 ↗ um some of those drainage questions and

1:17:47 ↗ then question on a little tiny Circle

1:17:52 ↗ um yes so there there are two that are

1:17:57 ↗ massive like not where it is

1:18:00 ↗ um there are two that are water stations

1:18:03 ↗ and then to the the ones that are here

1:18:05 ↗ by the fencing

1:18:07 ↗ um are uh waste stations and so and

1:18:11 ↗ there's also a waste Station over by the

1:18:15 ↗ bench

1:18:16 ↗ um and I mean these aren't like

1:18:18 ↗ exactly where everything is going to go

1:18:21 ↗ but the options about them throughout

1:18:24 ↗ my thing is don't she thought on like

1:18:26 ↗ let's have enough weight stations yeah

1:18:30 ↗ and disperse accordingly and I would

1:18:32 ↗ Echo Corey a great comment I think the

1:18:35 ↗ idea of dispersing the shelter and shade

1:18:37 ↗ and other things to encourage

1:18:40 ↗ it's encouraged not congregating all in

1:18:43 ↗ one place

1:18:44 ↗ um this is really good and then lastly I

1:18:47 ↗ think there was you know

1:18:48 ↗ oh we wanted the big Park and is this

1:18:50 ↗ really going to work and I think what

1:18:51 ↗ was really you know sort of the upside

1:18:54 ↗ of the fact that we had to sort of move

1:18:56 ↗ to a different plan that kind of reminds

1:18:58 ↗ me I work with InDesign when you have to

1:19:00 ↗ iterate and try things and so the fact

1:19:01 ↗ we've been able to like iterate and try

1:19:04 ↗ these different parks and see where the

1:19:05 ↗ usage are I think that really at least

1:19:07 ↗ for me helps give me more confidence in

1:19:09 ↗ this part to say like okay we've tried

1:19:11 ↗ the park in three or four different

1:19:12 ↗ areas you know we've had good success

1:19:15 ↗ with this one so far making it a little

1:19:17 ↗ more permanent almost gave it like a

1:19:18 ↗ kind of a testing ground before we go

1:19:20 ↗ final so

1:19:21 ↗ um as long as we're taking the learnings

1:19:23 ↗ from Authority there which sounds like

1:19:25 ↗ you are the community outreach um that

1:19:27 ↗ helps give you more confidence

1:19:30 ↗ yeah I'll um

1:19:32 ↗ just a couple notes is uh I took my

1:19:35 ↗ family to go see the troll recently

1:19:37 ↗ um and we walked by the dog park in

1:19:40 ↗ action

1:19:41 ↗ um and I just stopped and I observed for

1:19:43 ↗ about 10 minutes just to kind of get

1:19:44 ↗ understanding I don't know dogs

1:19:46 ↗ um I don't I've never been to a dog park

1:19:48 ↗ so I want to kind of observe and

1:19:50 ↗ understand

1:19:51 ↗ um and I will say the entire time I was

1:19:54 ↗ there there's probably between three and

1:19:56 ↗ eight dogs dog owners in

1:19:58 ↗ um and they actually were all

1:20:00 ↗ congregated at the top with that for you

1:20:03 ↗ to be called out putting a shelter

1:20:05 ↗ um so I was kind of surprised by that as

1:20:08 ↗ everyone was kind of naturally just up

1:20:10 ↗ in the I see what we call it the top

1:20:12 ↗ um the one observation I I would say is

1:20:15 ↗ it was the garbage cans were so smelly

1:20:18 ↗ um from waste being put in them and on a

1:20:22 ↗ day when there was probably a hundred

1:20:26 ↗ people in line to see the troll and it

1:20:29 ↗ was very very busy and it was a really

1:20:30 ↗ cool Community thing to see the first

1:20:32 ↗ first thing you got walking by the

1:20:34 ↗ patrol was just a giant loft of

1:20:38 ↗ smell so kind of on that along those

1:20:42 ↗ lines of additional receptacles but

1:20:45 ↗ eating a plan to

1:20:47 ↗ keep those cleaned on the regular just

1:20:51 ↗ as already noted the troll is such a

1:20:53 ↗ cool feature and hope to have that for a

1:20:56 ↗ long time the first thing you're getting

1:20:58 ↗ greeted with to go see it for us

1:21:01 ↗ activating all these amenities and

1:21:03 ↗ taking care of the amenities and making

1:21:05 ↗ sure yeah it's

1:21:08 ↗ active it was cool to see in action can

1:21:10 ↗ I slip in one very quickly on thank you

1:21:13 ↗ very much

1:21:15 ↗ on his comment about the Cooper

1:21:18 ↗ spectacles one thing you really need is

1:21:21 ↗ nice garbage can receptacles because

1:21:22 ↗ people come in with their latte cups and

1:21:25 ↗ all that and clog up the poop

1:21:26 ↗ receptacles

1:21:28 ↗ yeah yeah that's a good point yeah which

1:21:31 ↗ to that comment we've actually talked

1:21:33 ↗ about that with the amount of visitors

1:21:35 ↗ that are coming to that area because of

1:21:36 ↗ the troll we have talked about

1:21:38 ↗ additional tracks

1:21:41 ↗ so yeah we are monitoring and watching

1:21:45 ↗ yeah making sure that they can be

1:21:47 ↗ helpful comments about dog park planning

1:21:50 ↗ so you know Corey's comments about uh

1:21:53 ↗ some of these other parks that have had

1:21:56 ↗ remodels and maybe remodels for lessons

1:21:58 ↗ I don't know if we've been able to uh

1:22:01 ↗ direct our Consultants to maybe do some

1:22:05 ↗ interviews or yeah

1:22:07 ↗ glean the Lessons Learned some lessons

1:22:09 ↗ learned um

1:22:11 ↗ larger trash receptacles trash

1:22:13 ↗ receptacles with lids that close or

1:22:16 ↗ something like you know things like that

1:22:17 ↗ that might help and you know I have

1:22:21 ↗ I own dogs I've gone to dog park here

1:22:23 ↗ and in other areas other states

1:22:27 ↗ um they

1:22:30 ↗ there will always be you know a few

1:22:32 ↗ problem people and pets or whatever the

1:22:34 ↗ things that just don't work out but by

1:22:36 ↗ and large people do seem to

1:22:38 ↗ self-regulate like if it's a very

1:22:40 ↗ crowded Park they'll go somewhere else

1:22:43 ↗ or not go and sort of self filter that

1:22:47 ↗ way but given the community response you

1:22:50 ↗ know in the past years about uh you know

1:22:54 ↗ desire for dog park and then also just

1:22:57 ↗ from all the people I've heard about

1:22:59 ↗ with the Tibbetts dog park and that that

1:23:02 ↗ being kind of uh tabled for time being

1:23:06 ↗ um

1:23:06 ↗ I think there's a tremendous interest in

1:23:09 ↗ these and then also seeing you know the

1:23:10 ↗ people uh living in the

1:23:13 ↗ relatively speaking the newer apartments

1:23:15 ↗ and how many of them are dog owners and

1:23:17 ↗ really need in a place to go

1:23:21 ↗ um you know I think we have to proceed

1:23:22 ↗ and then you know we think there are a

1:23:25 ↗ lot of opportunities and Corey's

1:23:26 ↗ mentioned them you know thank you for us

1:23:29 ↗ to learn from other people's mistakes

1:23:30 ↗ and other jurisdictions mistakes

1:23:33 ↗ um but I don't see why there's any

1:23:35 ↗ reason why we can't

1:23:36 ↗ proceed with this one and make it a

1:23:38 ↗ successful part

1:23:40 ↗ you think I would just add on that like

1:23:42 ↗ if the you know dispersed Parks I think

1:23:44 ↗ to your point on all the different

1:23:46 ↗ um you know High occupancy buildings are

1:23:49 ↗ going up I think that's a more Equitable

1:23:51 ↗ response as well I have more dispersed

1:23:53 ↗ Parts throughout the community so

1:23:55 ↗ another one of those sort of happy

1:23:57 ↗ accidents from

1:23:58 ↗ original plan

1:24:02 ↗ everything back yeah

1:24:04 ↗ situation

1:24:10 ↗ am I on okay

1:24:12 ↗ um just a couple things yeah you know I

1:24:14 ↗ read Connie's email about environmental

1:24:17 ↗ concerns and I also read The Watershed

1:24:20 ↗ report which I think addresses some of

1:24:22 ↗ them I didn't really compare the two to

1:24:24 ↗ see if it addresses all of them but

1:24:26 ↗ something to consider because that there

1:24:28 ↗ is

1:24:28 ↗ you know that ditch and water issues

1:24:31 ↗ there I assume that permitting will

1:24:33 ↗ flush that out but just want to point

1:24:36 ↗ out that

1:24:37 ↗ uh you know certainly that needs to be

1:24:39 ↗ addressed

1:24:40 ↗ um

1:24:40 ↗ I'm curious to know about how wood

1:24:43 ↗ fencing was was uh selected as the final

1:24:48 ↗ um

1:24:49 ↗ you know my only concern with that is

1:24:51 ↗ maintenance uh and Longevity and there

1:24:54 ↗ may be other Alternatives that would

1:24:56 ↗ um be better but I don't know whether or

1:24:59 ↗ not cost was maybe the reason why wood

1:25:01 ↗ fencing was uh was determined to be the

1:25:05 ↗ best

1:25:06 ↗ uh and be curious to know how that

1:25:09 ↗ arrived at as the best

1:25:12 ↗ um and I'm all in favor of a dog

1:25:14 ↗ Memorial feature just to throw that out

1:25:17 ↗ there as uh I I think that would be a

1:25:19 ↗ good feature to add uh you know for the

1:25:22 ↗ people that visit and um I just think

1:25:26 ↗ that would be a nice amenity for the for

1:25:28 ↗ the dog part

1:25:30 ↗ thanks

1:25:33 ↗ thanks Brad to your to your first point

1:25:35 ↗ what I was saying earlier about the the

1:25:37 ↗ technical document review being our

1:25:39 ↗ first step into permitting

1:25:41 ↗ it's intended to do that very thing Brad

1:25:43 ↗ is we too as the applicant want we just

1:25:46 ↗ want to confirm Clarity uh here's what

1:25:49 ↗ we you know heard from our Wetland

1:25:50 ↗ consultant here's you know some of the

1:25:53 ↗ other information we're seeing

1:25:55 ↗ um that will allow us to get clarity

1:25:57 ↗ from planning as to how we need to move

1:26:00 ↗ forward with

1:26:02 ↗ um

1:26:04 ↗ yeah with those those reports

1:26:07 ↗ uh to your point about uh wood fencing

1:26:10 ↗ um

1:26:11 ↗ yeah I I think a mix uh really I think

1:26:15 ↗ um Community was pretty clear the the

1:26:18 ↗ aesthetic of wood was rated really

1:26:20 ↗ really high

1:26:22 ↗ um like wood fencing done well and and

1:26:24 ↗ all that Robin speak to this because I'm

1:26:26 ↗ I'm I only play a landscape architect on

1:26:29 ↗ TV about it not a real one

1:26:32 ↗ um but yeah how a wood fence is

1:26:35 ↗ installed how you treat the base of it

1:26:37 ↗ really goes a long ways to its longevity

1:26:42 ↗ this would be a you know six by six this

1:26:45 ↗ would be a a pretty

1:26:48 ↗ um a pretty bulky not bulky but um

1:26:51 ↗ industrial size dog park that is not

1:26:54 ↗ going to be easy to sort of tip over

1:26:58 ↗ certainly something we'll need to

1:27:00 ↗ maintain but the longevity of these

1:27:02 ↗ fences relative to cost

1:27:05 ↗ um it's really it's pretty quite cost

1:27:08 ↗ effective

1:27:10 ↗ in many ways so

1:27:12 ↗ Robin please anything to add yeah no

1:27:15 ↗ we've actually been doing a lot of back

1:27:17 ↗ and forth as operations team also to see

1:27:20 ↗ what's helpful for them when it comes to

1:27:23 ↗ maintenance um they've gotten some great

1:27:25 ↗ input again it comes back to detailing

1:27:29 ↗ that fence and detailing all these

1:27:31 ↗ little connection pieces they're really

1:27:32 ↗ going to make a difference for the

1:27:34 ↗ make it better and more sustainable long

1:27:37 ↗ term or easier to replace faster to

1:27:39 ↗ replace which you know kind of equates

1:27:42 ↗ to less expensive yeah well we look at

1:27:44 ↗ sort of the area and proximity that dog

1:27:46 ↗ park too you know within the trees along

1:27:49 ↗ the Rainier Trail sort of a Gateway

1:27:51 ↗ amenity coming from the community center

1:27:53 ↗ into sort of that forested area of the

1:27:55 ↗ ringer Trail having a offense aesthetic

1:27:59 ↗ that feels agrarian right it feels like

1:28:02 ↗ it fits sort of into that um

1:28:05 ↗ into that setting right

1:28:11 ↗ there thanks for that Jeff

1:28:14 ↗ letting considerations

1:28:16 ↗ um

1:28:17 ↗ lighting considerations besides the

1:28:19 ↗ street street lights that are already

1:28:21 ↗ there in terms of lighting the dog park

1:28:23 ↗ no not at this time

1:28:26 ↗ planning to have a

1:28:28 ↗ lighted lighted dog park there

1:28:33 ↗ I think we want to again you know this

1:28:36 ↗ would be our first the city's first

1:28:38 ↗ permanent dog park and sort of this

1:28:40 ↗ dispersed idea that we've talked about

1:28:44 ↗ um I'll say it again Tibbetts Valley

1:28:45 ↗ Park you know that is a park that still

1:28:48 ↗ needs to be it's a community park that

1:28:51 ↗ really needs to be reimagined and

1:28:55 ↗ rethought and the idea of a dog park

1:28:57 ↗ being an amenity at tippus Valley Park

1:28:59 ↗ is still a high priority and will be a

1:29:03 ↗ part of that part of that conversation

1:29:06 ↗ going forward so

1:29:08 ↗ um I I think until we

1:29:12 ↗ really see how our Park system is

1:29:14 ↗ functioning how our community wants to

1:29:16 ↗ use it if there's a real need for those

1:29:20 ↗ types of evening activities you know we

1:29:22 ↗ would consider it but at this time it

1:29:24 ↗ doesn't feel like there's a high enough

1:29:26 ↗ need for for that

1:29:29 ↗ um Title 18 also has a dark skies policy

1:29:32 ↗ in it so you have to be really really

1:29:34 ↗ smart about how we add lighting into our

1:29:38 ↗ Park system or lighting any amenities

1:29:46 ↗ foreign

1:29:50 ↗ so this item on the agenda is an action

1:29:54 ↗ has an action element so I think

1:29:57 ↗ basically you know

1:29:59 ↗ for scheduled reasons

1:30:02 ↗ Park staff is looking to us to you know

1:30:05 ↗ to indicate whether we support

1:30:07 ↗ proceeding pursuing with this or

1:30:09 ↗ proceeding with it or not

1:30:11 ↗ so I don't know if anybody wants to make

1:30:13 ↗ a motion

1:30:18 ↗ to support the yes conceptual design and

1:30:21 ↗ moving forward

1:30:23 ↗ anyone else a second emotion

1:30:27 ↗ any additional discussion about that

1:30:33 ↗ we take a vote all in favor

1:30:43 ↗ yeah I'm not sure if I am supposed to do

1:30:46 ↗ oh actually yeah you don't need to

1:30:47 ↗ because we've got him but you can if you

1:30:49 ↗ want it

1:30:54 ↗ foreign

1:31:01 ↗ [Music]

1:31:25 ↗ well and just to clarify as as we

1:31:28 ↗ proceed and and again appreciate that

1:31:30 ↗ that affirmative

1:31:32 ↗ um

1:31:33 ↗ uh vote

1:31:36 ↗ um more work ahead right so next step

1:31:38 ↗ for us is the technical document review

1:31:40 ↗ that's going to inform a lot in terms of

1:31:42 ↗ finalizing the design obviously as we go

1:31:45 ↗ through the permitting process that too

1:31:48 ↗ um you know informs not only timing but

1:31:51 ↗ um some of the details as well but um

1:31:54 ↗ thank you we'll uh

1:31:56 ↗ transition to that to that next step

1:32:01 ↗ clarify sorry all three alternates voted

1:32:04 ↗ for that and they all ready

1:32:07 ↗ so thanks

1:32:13 ↗ the next item then is the chairperson

1:32:17 ↗ report

1:32:18 ↗ which is mine and I don't

1:32:21 ↗ have too much we have I guess there's a

1:32:25 ↗ continuation of something that brought

1:32:27 ↗ up last time which is that we're looking

1:32:29 ↗ at having a meeting of some sort maybe

1:32:32 ↗ even a round table type meeting at a

1:32:35 ↗ different location

1:32:36 ↗ where we invite

1:32:39 ↗ part users uh Affiliated other groups so

1:32:45 ↗ from all perspectives basically you know

1:32:47 ↗ points of contact for all of our

1:32:49 ↗ population users so you know that might

1:32:53 ↗ be like the president of little league

1:32:55 ↗ but also you know the the squads and

1:32:59 ↗ trails and fish and and various

1:33:01 ↗ different groups so that we're really

1:33:03 ↗ getting a cross-section and giving them

1:33:06 ↗ a chance to

1:33:07 ↗ reconnect with Park Board

1:33:10 ↗ remind them that there are these

1:33:12 ↗ meetings that are

1:33:14 ↗ you know advertised but we really get

1:33:17 ↗ you know just a few people to attend

1:33:19 ↗ and maybe see if

1:33:22 ↗ they start recognizing some other

1:33:25 ↗ Mutual interests and and how they all uh

1:33:29 ↗ interact with each other

1:33:31 ↗ um so that's something we're looking at

1:33:33 ↗ doing and we'll continue to if you have

1:33:36 ↗ suggestions of people that groups that

1:33:39 ↗ we should reach out to please send them

1:33:41 ↗ to me let me know so that

1:33:43 ↗ I'm not forgetting about someone as we

1:33:45 ↗ build this list I was just thinking

1:33:46 ↗ Chris um over the summer we did some of

1:33:49 ↗ those sessions and I can't remember

1:33:51 ↗ exactly how it was broken out and I

1:33:53 ↗ think there was multiple but I had

1:33:54 ↗ participated in one of them and there

1:33:56 ↗ was a couple of representatives from

1:33:58 ↗ Little League somebody from a softball

1:34:00 ↗ league the new athletic director from

1:34:01 ↗ Issaquah High School it was a really

1:34:03 ↗ cool group and lots of great

1:34:05 ↗ conversation and so I think that there's

1:34:08 ↗ with that breakout session there's

1:34:10 ↗ probably a seed group of people that

1:34:13 ↗ would love to like they all seem really

1:34:15 ↗ excited to be invited to those those ad

1:34:19 ↗ hoc conversations and I'm sure it would

1:34:22 ↗ be a great roster for for some type of

1:34:24 ↗ follow-up or ongoing engagement with

1:34:26 ↗ them yeah and I think what you just

1:34:28 ↗ described is exactly the intent to

1:34:31 ↗ help these different people Network and

1:34:35 ↗ interact and and realize

1:34:38 ↗ what we let the parks system offers and

1:34:41 ↗ how they interact with it how they can

1:34:42 ↗ support it and and also advocate for

1:34:45 ↗ their particular interests and groups

1:34:50 ↗ it's a great time you're right the focus

1:34:52 ↗ group the focus group discussions sort

1:34:54 ↗ of kicking out the park plan we had a

1:34:56 ↗ sort of an athletic group Summit and a

1:34:58 ↗ trails in open space Summit and uh

1:35:01 ↗ um it really led to some some really

1:35:03 ↗ cool conversation Chris if you know as

1:35:07 ↗ we've talked a little bit about this it

1:35:09 ↗ feels like almost a park user Summit

1:35:11 ↗ right where it's like how do we invite

1:35:14 ↗ those groups and just let's have a

1:35:16 ↗ collective conversation about uh the

1:35:19 ↗ system right I think part of it is too

1:35:21 ↗ like closing that link to an extent or

1:35:23 ↗ building on those conversations so it's

1:35:25 ↗ not like inviting the same people to the

1:35:28 ↗ table and feeling like they have to

1:35:30 ↗ rehash the same thing again but what can

1:35:32 ↗ we do to make them feel like okay we

1:35:34 ↗ have this Focus through this is what we

1:35:37 ↗ heard now this is the next step and in

1:35:39 ↗ how we're applying that feedback and

1:35:41 ↗ working it into some plans

1:35:43 ↗ um

1:35:44 ↗ so it doesn't just feel like you're

1:35:46 ↗ you're having the same conversations

1:35:47 ↗ again and again something Chris has

1:35:50 ↗ chair you've dreamed about doing this

1:35:51 ↗ for a while now and happy happy to to to

1:35:54 ↗ work with you and and let's make it a

1:35:58 ↗ reality yeah and I think another part of

1:36:00 ↗ it just to

1:36:01 ↗ extrapolate is you know I had some

1:36:03 ↗ experience with the friends like

1:36:05 ↗ Sammamish State Park and

1:36:08 ↗ um you know that's a smaller version of

1:36:10 ↗ what we are and it's a part of what we

1:36:12 ↗ are uh and you have these many different

1:36:15 ↗ users but really when you invite people

1:36:17 ↗ to participate

1:36:21 ↗ many of them realize that they are not

1:36:23 ↗ just you know single issue or single use

1:36:25 ↗ users there they have kids playing

1:36:28 ↗ sports but they like to go you know walk

1:36:30 ↗ the trails or they you know

1:36:32 ↗ our bird watchers or you know there's

1:36:34 ↗ many different interests and I think

1:36:36 ↗ it's important for people to find that

1:36:37 ↗ Common Ground as opposed to

1:36:40 ↗ uh

1:36:42 ↗ isolation greeting you know adversarial

1:36:45 ↗ perspectives

1:36:46 ↗ I think as we think about that group too

1:36:49 ↗ we spend a lot of time thinking about

1:36:50 ↗ all of our outdoor amenities but really

1:36:52 ↗ making sure we're getting the groups

1:36:53 ↗ through the indoor right so whether it's

1:36:55 ↗ the rec basketball coaches or The Pick

1:36:58 ↗ of all people or people who use the

1:37:00 ↗ fitness center or the pool like I think

1:37:03 ↗ making sure that we're you know

1:37:06 ↗ checking off those sort of recreation

1:37:08 ↗ amenities as well we were kind of

1:37:10 ↗ creating that list

1:37:12 ↗ um

1:37:13 ↗ please email me your suggested

1:37:17 ↗ and this may happen in January or

1:37:20 ↗ February yeah because like first quarter

1:37:23 ↗ we've talked I know we've brainstorm you

1:37:25 ↗ know you know do we hostess at the

1:37:26 ↗ Pickering barn and we're somewhere big

1:37:30 ↗ right that can be uh you know

1:37:32 ↗ breakout sessions and other just

1:37:34 ↗ networking opportunities

1:37:42 ↗ so that's all I have

1:37:44 ↗ on that

1:37:46 ↗ we'll get back to you

1:37:48 ↗ all right uh report for me uh one if you

1:37:52 ↗ don't mind sharing screen I'm sorry I

1:37:55 ↗ will a couple things that were attached

1:37:58 ↗ uh to the agenda you'll see

1:38:00 ↗ um the work plan sort of the are working

1:38:03 ↗ um

1:38:04 ↗ um Park board agenda that we've kept

1:38:06 ↗ going we've included that in the agenda

1:38:08 ↗ if you want to take a look at it thank

1:38:10 ↗ you asante's a nice job of really

1:38:13 ↗ documenting the topics we've talked

1:38:16 ↗ about in the prior months as you look

1:38:18 ↗ ahead at that October and November we

1:38:21 ↗ have some pretty big topics coming up

1:38:24 ↗ um a couple we've already touched on

1:38:25 ↗ already with the goals and policies

1:38:27 ↗ conversation

1:38:28 ↗ um coming up both of those months

1:38:30 ↗ or also plan Dan Hintz Urban Forest

1:38:33 ↗ Supervisor has been hard at work

1:38:35 ↗ beginning to frame up

1:38:38 ↗ um

1:38:39 ↗ the the building blocks for an urban

1:38:42 ↗ Forest management plan I know that

1:38:44 ↗ there's plans for getting the ad hoc

1:38:46 ↗ group together before that October

1:38:48 ↗ meeting we'd like Dan to come at the to

1:38:50 ↗ the October Park board meeting and give

1:38:52 ↗ an overview of the approach for the

1:38:55 ↗ urban Forest management plan and what

1:38:56 ↗ that's going to mean and what that's

1:38:57 ↗ going to entail also kicking off and you

1:39:01 ↗ might remember from our conversations

1:39:02 ↗ early in the first quarter of this year

1:39:05 ↗ really wanting to prioritize giving a

1:39:09 ↗ review and an update a long needed

1:39:11 ↗ update of the hair Heritage tree program

1:39:13 ↗ so Dan will come in October and touch on

1:39:15 ↗ both of those thank you enough Steve

1:39:18 ↗ Pereira had some of those in his

1:39:21 ↗ audience comment as well so Steve if

1:39:24 ↗ you're still there October will be a a

1:39:27 ↗ meeting you'll probably be interested in

1:39:29 ↗ paying attention to or attending

1:39:33 ↗ other

1:39:35 ↗ s wanted to touch on I had the chance to

1:39:37 ↗ provide an update to city council last

1:39:39 ↗ Monday September 18th

1:39:42 ↗ last couple years now we've done this

1:39:44 ↗ and just trying to you know give an

1:39:46 ↗ update and some highlights of our busy

1:39:49 ↗ work plan within the department I

1:39:53 ↗ included that in the

1:39:56 ↗ in the agenda a chance for you to take a

1:39:58 ↗ look at

1:40:00 ↗ I can sort of cursory go through these

1:40:03 ↗ slides I don't intend to dive deep into

1:40:06 ↗ the details unless you want to or I

1:40:08 ↗ really open up for for questions but I

1:40:10 ↗ really want to say and it was a great

1:40:12 ↗ opportunity to share with Council and

1:40:14 ↗ Community

1:40:16 ↗ it really is an honor to represent and

1:40:20 ↗ work with such a diverse group of

1:40:22 ↗ Professionals in this department

1:40:23 ↗ we get a lot of work done and it's done

1:40:27 ↗ through some really talented

1:40:29 ↗ really

1:40:31 ↗ um

1:40:31 ↗ service-minded staff

1:40:34 ↗ um and and they do great work and so

1:40:36 ↗ this was a chance to just walk through

1:40:39 ↗ you know our department is really

1:40:40 ↗ comprised of five key teams five key

1:40:43 ↗ work groups Recreation

1:40:46 ↗ Human Services Arts Park planning and

1:40:51 ↗ development and park operations are

1:40:54 ↗ really our five key divisions and so

1:40:57 ↗ doing a quick walk through all five of

1:41:00 ↗ those within the recreation group as you

1:41:02 ↗ know they oversee both the community

1:41:05 ↗ center and the senior center as well as

1:41:07 ↗ the pool and all of our functions at the

1:41:10 ↗ Pickering Barn an amazing summer that

1:41:12 ↗ the team put together

1:41:14 ↗ 880 campers over nine weeks of our base

1:41:18 ↗ summer camps add on to that another 1200

1:41:21 ↗ campers through a wide variety of Sports

1:41:24 ↗ Camps that we offer many of those

1:41:27 ↗ through partnered agencies

1:41:30 ↗ um Cali is our new recreation

1:41:32 ↗ coordinator she's come on board as our

1:41:35 ↗ adaptive Recreation coordinator so

1:41:38 ↗ um adaptive Recreation is back in

1:41:40 ↗ abundance uh with with trips and

1:41:42 ↗ programs as well as Special Olympics

1:41:45 ↗ teams concerts on the green we're a huge

1:41:48 ↗ huge well-attended event we had to

1:41:51 ↗ cancel the 8th due to rain but even with

1:41:54 ↗ the seven we easily had over 8 000

1:41:57 ↗ attendees easily average over 100

1:42:00 ↗ easily averaging over a thousand

1:42:03 ↗ attendees for each

1:42:05 ↗ the senior center two very busy time not

1:42:09 ↗ only with the indoor programs and

1:42:11 ↗ programming and providing lunch five

1:42:12 ↗ days a week

1:42:14 ↗ but a great portfolio of trips and Hikes

1:42:17 ↗ that seniors are able to get out and and

1:42:20 ↗ enjoy

1:42:23 ↗ not to be outdone

1:42:25 ↗ um our pool I know a number of you go to

1:42:28 ↗ the pool regularly that is a popular

1:42:29 ↗ place this is a hop in place both in

1:42:33 ↗ terms of community use our lessons

1:42:35 ↗ program summer session alone had almost

1:42:38 ↗ a thousand participants in it

1:42:41 ↗ the farmers market and all the

1:42:43 ↗ activities both our rentals at the

1:42:45 ↗ Pickering barn but the farmers market a

1:42:48 ↗ few fun data points to share with with

1:42:50 ↗ Council and you all we averaged 73

1:42:53 ↗ vendors each Saturday over 3 500

1:42:57 ↗ Shoppers each Saturday

1:42:59 ↗ Kelley Diane who's in the upper left

1:43:02 ↗ there with the nice shades it's just

1:43:05 ↗ done an amazing job of managing uh the

1:43:08 ↗ market to think that we surpassed our

1:43:11 ↗ yield year-to-date sales record

1:43:14 ↗ on August 31st was pretty impressive at

1:43:18 ↗ 1.4 million so that doesn't include any

1:43:20 ↗ of our our summer or our fall sales

1:43:23 ↗ an amazing team of volunteers and staff

1:43:27 ↗ that helped make that market happen if

1:43:28 ↗ you haven't been

1:43:30 ↗ this summer this next Saturday September

1:43:32 ↗ 30th is the last last Market day until

1:43:35 ↗ we close down for the season but uh a

1:43:39 ↗ great season and all and Kelly Diane is

1:43:41 ↗ a bit of a star and recognized by 425

1:43:44 ↗ magazine as one of the 40 under 40 in

1:43:47 ↗ the hospitality category

1:43:50 ↗ as I told Council there's not a lot that

1:43:52 ↗ can a lot of people that can rock

1:43:54 ↗ um pink sunglasses but tell Dan can she

1:43:58 ↗ she owns it

1:44:01 ↗ transitioning to Arts Amy dukes and our

1:44:05 ↗ Arts manager and her work with the Arts

1:44:08 ↗ commission

1:44:09 ↗ very successful chalk art festival

1:44:12 ↗ over 450 participants if you've ever

1:44:16 ↗ seen that or wondered why the Rainier

1:44:18 ↗ Trail in front of the community center

1:44:19 ↗ heading down to City Hall South has all

1:44:22 ↗ those colors for the for for the last

1:44:24 ↗ weeks of Summer that's remnants from the

1:44:27 ↗ chalk art festival

1:44:28 ↗ Shakespeare in the park was a huge hit

1:44:30 ↗ wooden o is the theater group out of

1:44:33 ↗ Seattle that does those they did The

1:44:36 ↗ Tempest this year to uh

1:44:38 ↗ a little over 300 people attended that

1:44:41 ↗ RX commission does a lot of Grant

1:44:43 ↗ programs we've done a little twist in

1:44:46 ↗ how we're providing grants and really

1:44:48 ↗ wanted to emphasize grants for arts in

1:44:51 ↗ schools and Issaquah based schools

1:44:54 ↗ um and then last but certainly not least

1:44:56 ↗ we welcome the Jacob two trees to

1:44:59 ↗ Issaquah on September 1st uh Jacob was

1:45:02 ↗ was unveiled uh down by the Rainier

1:45:05 ↗ Trail

1:45:06 ↗ um if you haven't had a chance to go

1:45:08 ↗ meet Jacob please do

1:45:10 ↗ um it's been

1:45:12 ↗ um a real successful art installation

1:45:14 ↗ and thank you Brad for your words I

1:45:17 ↗ think what has been important to Amy and

1:45:18 ↗ important to

1:45:20 ↗ uh really our thoughts about arts and

1:45:22 ↗ how Arts tells our story in the Parks

1:45:25 ↗ um uh we we want to do art in a way that

1:45:27 ↗ is thoughtful and and speaks to who we

1:45:30 ↗ are as Issaquah um

1:45:31 ↗ a Danish artist you wouldn't think

1:45:33 ↗ necessarily speaks to to Issaquah but

1:45:36 ↗ his goals for sustainability for using

1:45:39 ↗ recycled materials is a real priority

1:45:42 ↗ for us that Thomas worked closely with

1:45:43 ↗ the Snoqualmie tribe which he did

1:45:46 ↗ which was just great to see that

1:45:49 ↗ cultural collaboration come together

1:45:56 ↗ the Human Services team not something we

1:45:59 ↗ talk about a lot here with the Parks

1:46:01 ↗ Board but there's such a key part of

1:46:02 ↗ what we do as a department the Human

1:46:05 ↗ Services Commission obviously oversees a

1:46:07 ↗ lot of this work if you didn't know we

1:46:10 ↗ opened up this summer um issaquah's

1:46:12 ↗ first

1:46:13 ↗ shelter serving those that are that are

1:46:16 ↗ homeless this is not a typical

1:46:18 ↗ traditional congregate shelter but

1:46:20 ↗ really more of a what we're calling an

1:46:24 ↗ emergency housing model

1:46:25 ↗ we've rented 12 rooms at Motel 6 for the

1:46:30 ↗ full year and are utilizing those rooms

1:46:33 ↗ to

1:46:37 ↗ have customers come and and be housed

1:46:43 ↗ under a very

1:46:45 ↗ focused agreement that those individuals

1:46:48 ↗ are working on eight really key areas

1:46:50 ↗ and that that housing model is really

1:46:52 ↗ helping transition that individual from

1:46:56 ↗ um homelessness to permanent housing and

1:46:59 ↗ so we really are excited about launching

1:47:02 ↗ that and seeing

1:47:04 ↗ how outcomes can really begin to or we

1:47:09 ↗ can really begin to create some positive

1:47:11 ↗ outcomes with with individuals who are

1:47:13 ↗ taking part of that program a really

1:47:15 ↗ impressive team of professionals that

1:47:17 ↗ our Human Services team

1:47:22 ↗ we also like to take advantage what the

1:47:24 ↗ last bullet there you see we the Human

1:47:27 ↗ Services team hosted a community

1:47:28 ↗ resource Fair uh really focused on kids

1:47:32 ↗ um while we did the trunk Art Festival

1:47:34 ↗ so how can we take some of our events

1:47:37 ↗ um and piggyback and collaborate in a

1:47:40 ↗ way and really meeting our residents in

1:47:43 ↗ some fun new ways

1:47:47 ↗ Park Ops team has has been really really

1:47:50 ↗ busy this spring and summer as they

1:47:52 ↗ always are

1:47:53 ↗ um Rick still our park operations

1:47:55 ↗ manager who came on board a few years

1:47:57 ↗ ago as you recall we've really been able

1:47:59 ↗ to organize our park operations team in

1:48:02 ↗ a very new way and we're really

1:48:03 ↗ beginning to

1:48:04 ↗ some terrific outcomes to that

1:48:07 ↗ organization structure

1:48:09 ↗ some fun facts about the yard that we

1:48:12 ↗ maintain for All For You residents it's

1:48:14 ↗ about 52 Acres of turf that we mow if

1:48:18 ↗ you look add up all of our Landscaping

1:48:21 ↗ beds that we

1:48:22 ↗ Ed and plants and maintain it's about

1:48:25 ↗ seven acres of landscaping beds alone

1:48:28 ↗ this summer alone 12 000 bags of trash

1:48:31 ↗ were collected a hundred thousand doggie

1:48:34 ↗ bags were provided and 37

1:48:37 ↗ stations throughout our full system so

1:48:41 ↗ those are you know doggy bag stations in

1:48:43 ↗ our parks and along our Trails picnic

1:48:46 ↗ shelters remain immensely popular here

1:48:48 ↗ in in Issaquah as we're looking at

1:48:50 ↗ adding a few others through some of our

1:48:52 ↗ Park projects over 240 shelter rentals

1:48:56 ↗ that we supported through the summer

1:48:58 ↗ months I mentioned earlier Dan and his

1:49:00 ↗ work with Urban Forest management plan

1:49:02 ↗ kicking off this summer really excited

1:49:04 ↗ to see those outcomes

1:49:05 ↗ through our partnered work through our

1:49:08 ↗ contracted work through our own work on

1:49:10 ↗ over 22 000 trees have been planted in

1:49:12 ↗ our city parks in open space this year

1:49:15 ↗ today so again having really looking at

1:49:19 ↗ our Urban Forest understanding um even

1:49:23 ↗ as we saw the the one tree fall here and

1:49:25 ↗ as Corey and I were walking in right

1:49:28 ↗ it's that we you know the realization

1:49:30 ↗ that our our

1:49:32 ↗ Park system is active it's living

1:49:35 ↗ breathing Dynamic constantly changing

1:49:38 ↗ and so really succession planning with

1:49:41 ↗ trees planting and succession planting

1:49:44 ↗ with trees is really really important

1:49:46 ↗ green Issaquah is beginning to really

1:49:48 ↗ blossom in its productivity we have a

1:49:52 ↗ volunteer coordinator that's been

1:49:54 ↗ brought on board this year so over 40

1:49:57 ↗ events have been hosted representing a

1:50:00 ↗ little over 2 300 hours of volunteer

1:50:03 ↗ work so some great some great output

1:50:05 ↗ there

1:50:07 ↗ within our Park projects a lot of the

1:50:10 ↗ areas that we talk about those that work

1:50:13 ↗ has continued throughout the summer

1:50:14 ↗ welcome on board Robin is Robin's

1:50:16 ↗ becoming familiar with all of these

1:50:18 ↗ right

1:50:19 ↗ right but again thank you to Asante and

1:50:21 ↗ Rick and and and certainly some added

1:50:24 ↗ work for myself

1:50:25 ↗ work on pedestrian Park Senior Center

1:50:28 ↗ continues uh we'll hopefully have a more

1:50:31 ↗ focused update at our October Park board

1:50:33 ↗ meeting as we're really getting close to

1:50:36 ↗ submitting design for that

1:50:39 ↗ um Hillside Park permitting is has been

1:50:41 ↗ underway

1:50:42 ↗ um we had hosted a date we didn't host

1:50:44 ↗ Community Planning and Development

1:50:46 ↗ hosted a neighborhood environmental

1:50:48 ↗ meeting as part of the permit process uh

1:50:50 ↗ we hope to be getting our permit

1:50:53 ↗ responses

1:50:55 ↗ um and actions back from Community

1:50:56 ↗ Planning Development in the next month

1:50:58 ↗ or two this is a project too we hope to

1:51:00 ↗ be out to bid this winter and and plan

1:51:04 ↗ to be under construction and complete in

1:51:06 ↗ 2024.

1:51:08 ↗ the others two topics we touched on uh

1:51:11 ↗ in a pretty big way tonight

1:51:15 ↗ and lastly again just a kudos to the

1:51:18 ↗ team you know we we do a lot of things

1:51:20 ↗ but we talk a lot about this to our

1:51:23 ↗ staff and to the team in the department

1:51:25 ↗ we are we have two core jobs and that's

1:51:28 ↗ stewarding places and investing in

1:51:31 ↗ people is really the the two things that

1:51:34 ↗ we do in this in this department and for

1:51:38 ↗ this community and an amazing staff to

1:51:40 ↗ work with

1:51:42 ↗ so there's a

1:51:44 ↗ little deeper dive than maybe I was

1:51:46 ↗ planning to sorry I started I started I

1:51:49 ↗ started soap boxing so forgive me

1:51:55 ↗ thank you

1:51:57 ↗ uh anyone else have any other business

1:51:59 ↗ or announcements to bring it up let's

1:52:02 ↗ make a thumbnail

1:52:04 ↗ but you know Brad said it earlier but

1:52:07 ↗ um you know that Jacob two trees art

1:52:10 ↗ installation

1:52:12 ↗ um I know there's concerns about it's

1:52:13 ↗ placing on the trail concerns about

1:52:15 ↗ mitigation of some of the clients

1:52:17 ↗ concerned about uh foot traffic coming

1:52:19 ↗ from the apartments to hit the trail to

1:52:21 ↗ go on salmon days those types of things

1:52:24 ↗ um that were are

1:52:29 ↗ um like I said I've already been there I

1:52:31 ↗ took my family there's a huge line of

1:52:32 ↗ people waiting to take pictures

1:52:35 ↗ um it was a fantastic display of

1:52:38 ↗ community you had the trail was survey

1:52:41 ↗ people on bicycles it was certain people

1:52:43 ↗ calling their children in wagons it was

1:52:46 ↗ serving people in wheelchairs with

1:52:47 ↗ certain people walking their dogs to the

1:52:50 ↗ to the Art Exhibit then to go to the dog

1:52:51 ↗ park

1:52:52 ↗ um so just from the planning on that the

1:52:56 ↗ execution and how it finally turned out

1:52:58 ↗ it's a fantastic piece it's a fantastic

1:53:00 ↗ uh installation it's fantastic

1:53:04 ↗ I think for our community so a great job

1:53:06 ↗ around and all the feedback that was

1:53:08 ↗ taken into how that's set up because uh

1:53:11 ↗ just watching people hand over their

1:53:13 ↗ phones and take pictures with other

1:53:14 ↗ people and it was really just the

1:53:17 ↗ community was vibrant and alive for that

1:53:19 ↗ one thing and so thanks to everyone in

1:53:22 ↗ the city and everything made the happen

1:53:24 ↗ it's it's a really cool thing

1:53:26 ↗ I appreciate that Ryan yeah it's a it's

1:53:29 ↗ a it's a really cool thing for us to

1:53:30 ↗ claw and it'll be interesting to see

1:53:32 ↗ some of the data points from the

1:53:35 ↗ downtown businesses but the the energy

1:53:38 ↗ along the Rainier Trail and even through

1:53:40 ↗ old town it's noticeable in terms of

1:53:42 ↗ just sort of visitation and

1:53:46 ↗ what that's what that's meant and as we

1:53:49 ↗ worked with the artist it was a it was

1:53:50 ↗ really important priority that it's

1:53:52 ↗ going to be in Issaquah how can we have

1:53:56 ↗ an installation like this

1:53:58 ↗ um

1:53:58 ↗ support and support Issaquah businesses

1:54:02 ↗ another important point and we're

1:54:04 ↗ continuing to have conversation with

1:54:07 ↗ Community Planning and Development

1:54:09 ↗ um

1:54:11 ↗ it has been our commitment from the

1:54:13 ↗ get-go and then given how popular it is

1:54:15 ↗ to make sure that art installation has

1:54:18 ↗ no negative environmental impact and is

1:54:20 ↗ making a positive environmental impact

1:54:22 ↗ and so any and all you know buffer

1:54:26 ↗ buffer mitigation's already been done we

1:54:29 ↗ will certainly commit to any and all

1:54:32 ↗ buffer mitigation to to again make sure

1:54:36 ↗ that that

1:54:37 ↗ um that is a

1:54:39 ↗ a positive many ways around but a

1:54:43 ↗ positive for the community as well as as

1:54:45 ↗ the environment

1:54:47 ↗ it's cool and I just added something to

1:54:50 ↗ that so I had the opportunity to

1:54:53 ↗ volunteer to um yeah to um

1:55:09 ↗ I tried actually helped to build the

1:55:11 ↗ bench that um that the other volunteers

1:55:14 ↗ sit down to take breaks during lunch so

1:55:17 ↗ I was really proud of myself but I'm I

1:55:19 ↗ had the opportunity

1:55:22 ↗ drove all the way from Seattle

1:55:24 ↗ and one from Bellevue and it was so neat

1:55:27 ↗ to you know they were blown away and I

1:55:30 ↗ I've had the opportunity just to kind of

1:55:45 ↗ great to hear yep

1:55:50 ↗ do we have anything else

1:55:53 ↗ all right with that in three minutes to

1:55:56 ↗ spare time

1:56:00 ↗ our next meeting will be October 23rd

1:56:03 ↗ which is a Monday right yes

1:56:12 ↗ thanks everyone

Approved minutes

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Attendance

Council / Members (9)

Chris Kovac

Marlene Waxse

Andrew Eliquen

David Liu

Brenda Spears (Virtual)

Katie Bell

Ryan Olson, Alternate (Acting as Regular Member)

Bradley Book, Alternate (Virtual, Acting as Regular Member)

Andrew Myers, Alternate (Acting as Regular Member)

Staff (5)

Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director

Robin Separ, Park Planning & Development Manager

Hasanthi Piyasena, Department Operations Specialist

Cory Christensen

Steve Pereira

Excused

Zach Szablewski

Nicholas Lee

Tim Motely

Recommendations & actions (6)

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a) Minutes of June 26, 2023 There being no corrections, the minutes were approved as presented.
b) Minutes of August 9, 2023 There being no corrections, the minutes were approved as presented.
Following the presentation and robust discussion the board moved to take action to support proceeding with the design for the project and moving it forward to permitting.
Katie Bell motioned, David Liu seconded.
The motioned passed unanimously with 9 votes (all Alternates acted as Regular Members).
He requested any members to send him names and groups to include and this may happen in the first quester of next year.