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Tuesday, February 24, 2026

7:00 PM · 1h 51m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Park Rules and Regulations COM 0216 2/4
Issaquah Climate Action Plan Review 8/13
ICAP Targets and Actions Review (D) 2 hrs 1/4
Mayor Introduction & Priorities 3/3
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of January 26th, 2026
packet pp.3–9
Staff report:
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4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Mayor Introduction & Priorities
Information · 40 min · Mayor Mark Mullet and Jeff Watling · packet pp.11–32
Staff report:
Review proposed Provide update natural systems on ICAP progress targets & actions
4b
Issaquah Climate Action Plan Update (I, D)
30 min · Stacy Vynne McKinstry · packet pp.33–76
Topics: Climate
Staff report:
• Obtain Park Board feedback on plan to update and consolidate the Park Rules and Regulations within the Issaquah Municipal Code (IMC) • Gather initial thoughts on key rules to be included in updating these rules and regulations in 2026.
4c
Park Rules and Regulations
Information / Discussion · 30 min · Dale Markey-Crimp and Jeff Watling
Topics: Parks
5. REPORTS
5a
Chairperson's Report
5b
Director's Report
5c
Student Rep Report
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
Working Document - Park Board Work Plan attached
packet pp.77–78
Topics: Parks
Staff report:
Applicable Strategic Plan Goal Areas 2026 WORKPLAN [WORKING] Proposed Meeting (check all that apply) PARK BOARD Schedule ☒Mobility ☒Social & Economic Vitality ☒Growth & Development ☒City Leadership & Services Tentative Timeframe ☒Environ. Stewardship ☒Infrastructure
0:00 It is 7:01
0:02 p.m. As chair, I will call this February
0:06 24th meeting, the ISS club park board to
0:09 order. We'll start with roll call. Like
0:14 start the screen, but no one's on the
0:15 screen, which is amazing.
0:17 Start with the uh Martha Ginser.
0:20 >> I'm here.
0:23 Jeff renewal excuse
0:27 is no longer on the board. Excellent.
0:30 Marley Waxi here,
0:33 >> James Pushi, excuse
0:37 >> Diana Ren
0:40 and Hammond,
0:46 >> Tim Mley,
0:51 >> Chris Co.
0:57 David uh present and Brian also
1:01 >> here
1:05 and here's
1:07 a good
1:14 >> um we have no voting tonight correct
1:19 forum
1:20 um has everybody had the chance to
1:22 review the minutes from the last
1:23 meeting.
1:26 Anybody have any corrections or edits?
1:33 There are no corrections on behalf of
1:35 the board. The minutes are approved.
1:39 >> Public comment. I don't think we have
1:41 anybody in building. I do know we have
1:44 some email submitts.
1:47 >> We did. And we don't have anyone online
1:49 e uh um either. Uh yes, two written
1:54 submittals uh came in. I forwarded one
1:56 from a neighbor of Timberlake Park. Um
2:00 had some comments about the our park
2:02 rules conversation. Um mostly pertaining
2:06 to um interest in um off leash dogs and
2:11 enforcement of off leash dogs as well as
2:14 campfires, prohibition of campfires. Um
2:18 Connie Marsh also provided public
2:19 comment um suggesting some work around
2:23 special events um and also um some other
2:27 comments. So we will like we've done in
2:29 the past with written comments we'll add
2:31 those to the minutes uh for the meeting
2:33 for the record.
2:41 >> We will now begin our regular business
2:44 of the meeting. We will have a little
2:46 bit of switch up in our order. It's
2:48 listed under regular business. Um, and
2:52 so we will pivot to bullet point B and
2:55 we will start with the ISQA climate
2:57 action plan presented by Stacy V
3:00 McKinsky.
3:02 >> I see.
3:04 >> There's
3:07 Why don't we You're quick.
3:11 >> Yeah.
3:12 >> Like the wolf and picture.
3:14 So, we just kicked it off with Stacy
3:17 going climate action plan. Do you mind
3:18 if we do that first and then Okay.
3:20 >> I haven't even opened the presentation
3:22 yet. Are you sure?
3:23 >> Yeah.
3:24 >> Okay.
3:34 >> AC, you're able to share. Yes.
3:40 >> Well, thank you again for making time on
3:42 the agenda tonight. um as a reminder as
3:45 back in the fall, I'll summarize a bit
3:47 what we discussed last fall about the
3:49 final date. Um but tonight we are
3:59 um tonight we're here really just to
4:00 talk through an update on the IAP
4:03 progress and then um speak some more uh
4:07 in some more detail around the proposed
4:09 revisions to the natural system targets
4:11 and actions.
4:14 Uh tonight we're looking for your
4:16 feedback particularly on the revised
4:18 natural systems target and then on the
4:20 revised action concepts for including
4:23 the time action plan update.
4:31 So just as a reminder um especially if
4:34 you weren't here in the meeting last
4:36 fall uh the climate action plan is
4:39 really the foundation for the city's
4:41 climate work. It was adopted by council
4:43 in December 2021 following a pretty
4:46 extensive engagement with community
4:49 members and different interest group in
4:51 order to develop shared priorities. For
4:54 our five-year update, we're really
4:55 focused on revising actions that were
4:58 either really specific. They talked
5:01 about a particular campaign or project
5:03 or program that's either been completed
5:06 or maybe was too specific and we want to
5:09 broaden it. Um and then we're also
5:11 looking at some of the targets that um
5:15 needed revising or weren't well
5:17 connected to the action.
5:21 Um so again tonight uh we are really
5:25 interested in your feedback on the
5:26 natural systems target which is one of
5:28 the few targets that we're touching in
5:30 the climate.
5:34 A reminder, what we're trying to achieve
5:36 with the natural system section of the
5:38 plan is it's really focused on
5:40 increasing tree canopy to 55% uh over
5:44 the next nine years. Um and doing that
5:47 by maintaining and expanding tree canopy
5:49 and then the this section of the plan
5:52 also does conserve on water resources. I
5:55 talk about conserving water resources.
5:57 We don't currently have a specific
5:59 target associated with that. I'll in a
6:02 moment Our
6:07 progress to date for updating the
6:09 climate action plan involved working
6:11 with the committees which we talked
6:13 about last fall and several several
6:15 members of the park board participated
6:16 in that process. The input from the
6:19 committees was then brought back to the
6:21 boards and commissions for review. Your
6:24 feedback was taken to the environmental
6:26 board. Um they further worked the
6:28 actions and the plan. Um, and now we're
6:31 coming back to you all for input. One
6:34 other step that we had that's a bit less
6:37 uh relevant for this group is we did
6:39 meet with our planning, development, and
6:41 environmental council committee a few
6:43 weeks ago. They've asked us to come back
6:46 with some big bold policies that'll
6:48 really move the needle on reducing
6:51 climate emissions. Most of those are
6:54 going to end up in the transportation,
6:56 buildings, and energy area. a less
6:58 impactful discussion this evening.
7:04 So, reminder of the feedback you all
7:05 provided this fall. Um, you all talked
7:09 about having the target uh consider
7:12 wildfire risk. We don't want to expand
7:14 our tree canopy so much that it puts us
7:17 at higher risk for wildfire. There was a
7:20 lot of discussion around concern around
7:22 invasives and especially how invasive
7:24 species impact tree canopy.
7:27 um interest in focusing more on water
7:29 conservation
7:30 um which we are looking at including we
7:33 won't necessarily talk about that today
7:35 community gardens again we are looking
7:38 at including some actions around
7:40 expanding community gardens but speak to
7:43 those much today
7:45 um the group is also interested in
7:46 looking at drought tolerant landscaping
7:49 policies um we have been talking with
7:52 our planning department and those are
7:54 actually incorporated into our code. Um,
7:57 so we won't speak much to those today.
8:00 And then there was a lot of interest in
8:02 habitat
8:04 that
8:10 great. So any questions on that
8:13 background before we jump into
8:17 proposed revisions and discussion around
8:26 all right so the first one which is
8:28 likely to be the bulk of our discussion
8:31 tonight is around whether or not we
8:34 should revise the target for our natural
8:36 system section of the climate plan. Um,
8:40 again, that target currently reads 55%
8:42 tree canopy by 2035.
8:45 Um, currently we're at just a little
8:47 over 51% of our tree canopy, although
8:50 that last study was done before the bomb
8:53 site loan, but I think Dan doesn't
8:55 anticipate actually surprisingly major
8:58 impacts from that. Um, we do know that
9:03 going from our current tree canopy cover
9:06 to 55%
9:08 would require around 300 additional
9:11 acres of tree canopy.
9:14 We recognize that having ambitious
9:17 stretch targets is good, but we also
9:20 want targets that are achievable or have
9:23 a chance of being um achieved.
9:27 Um, one of the biggest jumps previously
9:30 in our tree canopy back in the mid 2010s
9:34 was um after Talis and Highland um the
9:39 Highlands uh developments once those
9:41 trees came to maturity we saw a big jump
9:44 in our tree canopy. So if you can
9:46 imagine those areas of developments and
9:49 the trees that are reaching maturity,
9:52 that's about what we would need to see
9:53 across the rest of the city to meet this
9:55 target.
9:57 Um so we've discussed several options
9:59 with the environmental board. They were
10:02 very mixed in their feedback. Um so I'm
10:05 really interested in your all's input
10:06 today. Um one option we discussed was
10:11 let's keep that target. It is very
10:13 ambitious. it's going to be very
10:15 challenging to achieve, but it's good to
10:17 challenge ourselves. Um, we also talked
10:20 about an alternative that would be a no
10:23 net loss tree canopy. So, that
10:26 recognizes that we want to at least stay
10:29 where we are. There may be some really
10:32 important environmental projects where
10:34 we have to take out some trees like a
10:36 stream restoration project, but
10:38 ultimately we want to keep our canopy um
10:41 at the same level across the city.
10:45 So those are um kind of one option is
10:49 either to keep the tree canopy target as
10:52 it is or possibly replace that current
10:55 target.
10:57 The board also talked about adding in
10:59 additional targets. Um, one would be
11:02 around a tree equity score that looks at
11:06 our tree distribution. So making sure
11:08 that we have improved distribution of
11:11 trees across the neighborhoods um so
11:14 that neighborhoods that experience more
11:16 open heat island effects um or don't
11:20 experience the many benefits of trees um
11:23 that we're really focusing our our
11:26 efforts in improving canopy in those
11:28 areas. The other target that the
11:32 environmental board was interested in
11:33 was actually adding a new target to get
11:36 to all the other actions in this area.
11:39 Um something either around riparian
11:40 habitat or conservation.
11:44 So I wanted to pause here and get some
11:47 feedback. Again the environmental board
11:48 was really split on whether we keep the
11:51 55% or transition to the no net props.
11:56 So curious on our board input on that as
11:59 well as the potential for adding
12:02 additional targets.
12:07 >> What are the actual
12:11 achieve?
12:14 >> Yeah, great question. So the one right
12:16 now that we have in place is our entry
12:18 code which is really at protecting and
12:21 tree canopy. Um but a lot of the other
12:24 actions focus around incentives.
12:28 We did a tree giveaway program uh this
12:31 year. There could be other incentives
12:33 especially on creative property for
12:35 retaining trees. Um so that would be
12:37 part of our challenge is coming up with
12:40 a mix of policy programs and incentives
12:44 acquisitions
12:53 what the underlying motivation
12:58 target.
13:00 >> Yeah. Um I think in terms of the in why
13:04 we want to increase tree canopy
13:06 essentially. Yeah. So I think part of
13:08 that just comes from all the benefits
13:10 that trees provide everything from
13:12 habitat to the cooling um in terms of
13:16 addressing urban heat island um to the
13:19 clean air. So um originally how that 55%
13:24 was set looking back um at the content
13:28 when the plan was developed is I think
13:31 because we had seen a 4% around a 4%
13:34 increase back in the early 2010s. Um
13:37 there was interest in seeing another an
13:40 increase
13:42 during the um 15 or so year that this
13:46 was set for.
13:50 >> Yeah.
13:50 >> So it really was it was at the time it
13:53 was set it was aspirational.
13:55 >> Yes. Aspirational not based on any
13:58 planned projects or acquisitions
14:01 as far as standard I can tell.
14:07 um cities around us know what their like
14:11 where do we sit as far as
14:13 >> they're lower I know in urban forest
14:16 management plan others may have some
14:18 comparison but we're definitely one of
14:20 the most well treated cities
14:24 especially across the east side I can't
14:26 necessarily speak to north area
14:29 >> yeah it's a great question Marlene I
14:30 don't the most recent tree canopy study
14:34 that was done. Uh that was one of the
14:36 benchmarks. Um I can try and find it. Um
14:40 either send it to you all, but it just
14:41 it was a good comparison of Puget Sound
14:43 Cities and where we stand. And Stacy's
14:46 correct. We're we're very high on the
14:49 list when you look at percentage of
14:52 canopy cover.
15:02 Um I think part of our board wants to
15:06 retain a very ambitious target and feels
15:09 like we should be striving to increase
15:10 our treat.
15:12 Um I think other members of the board be
15:16 because of all the the benefits um
15:19 carbon sequestration didn't mention
15:22 other members of the board um and some
15:25 that work in habitat restoration field
15:28 recognize that some environmental
15:32 projects habitat restoration projects
15:34 we're going to need there's going to be
15:35 some tradeoffs we may need to use some
15:37 trees in order to do some really great
15:41 projects
15:43 community. Um, but we can balance that
15:46 out by planting trees.
15:50 So, I think um, and just recognizing
15:53 the amount of acreage that's needed to
15:56 increase the canopy and
15:59 having a plan for that
16:04 very likely.
16:09 You mentioned the first major event was
16:11 that we really projects having these
16:16 more trees. Um
16:19 so for us to make these other these next
16:21 jumps without residential changes
16:24 without larger social projects um
16:27 fruiting more mature trees uh would the
16:30 city like parks be able to help increase
16:34 right? Is there something we can do in
16:36 the parks department to to intrigue or
16:39 to grow more trees? I guess to increase
16:41 canopy.
16:42 >> Um it's my first question. Basically,
16:44 how much impact can we have in the
16:47 public sector?
16:49 >> Um and also from a safety standpoint,
16:51 right? We talk about tree code. I think
16:52 after the bomb, we're all really aware
16:55 that um right trees can be really
16:58 damaging to our structures um both
17:01 public and private. Uh so one of the
17:04 concerns is if we mess with the code too
17:06 much to make it really hard to remove
17:08 trees that you know are a risk to to
17:11 home or structure structures. How much
17:14 of a concern is that? Um, and then on
17:18 the flip side of that, because they have
17:20 such great tree coverage, um, I think
17:24 landslides and things like that, we have
17:25 so much critical slope here, right? Um,
17:28 we have some of the most stable
17:31 slopes of of our neighbors. Um, so I'd
17:35 be interested to know about balancing
17:36 that again that impacts us on a public
17:38 level and that's safety.
17:42 >> Yeah.
17:45 >> Yeah. No, great questions, Hannah, that
17:47 really I think speak to trade-offs,
17:49 right? And this becomes a really big
17:51 trade-offs conversation in terms of the
17:53 role the public property can play and
17:55 and should play in canopy, not only
17:59 increasing the canopy, but sustaining
18:01 the canopy and um ensuring the canopy
18:05 stays healthy. Um yes we through green
18:08 isqua and through our urban forest
18:11 program through the urban forest plan
18:12 that right came before you all um tree
18:17 succession planting replanting trees is
18:20 going to be it's a constant it's it's a
18:23 constant goal um I think until we get
18:26 into that routine and see the results of
18:28 that which is often 10 years later um I
18:32 I think we're expecting when we start
18:34 looking at percentage change. A lot of
18:37 what we're doing is sustaining
18:41 um that canopy cover. There might be an
18:44 increment increase, but it's really more
18:47 about health of the canopy cover. Um and
18:51 you're absolutely right. You know, when
18:53 you look at our forested slopes, um
18:55 those trees are and the and the roots
18:58 are doing a lot for stabilizing u slope
19:01 and um dealing with water. you know, one
19:04 one Doug fur tree um don't know the
19:08 stat, but it's an amazing amount of
19:09 water that one Doug fur um absorbs. So,
19:14 um I think it's more about sustaining
19:16 than growing. Um if you were to again
19:19 look at it might be worth um sharing
19:22 with you all the the most recent tree
19:24 canopy um study that was done a couple
19:27 years ago. A lot of the area the
19:32 potential area is in central Isiqua.
19:34 That's probably where our our biggest
19:37 tree desert is when when you think of,
19:41 you know, north of Tibets Valley Park, a
19:44 lot of those, you know, storage
19:45 facilities and the top pot donut and
19:48 right a lot of big lots that don't have
19:50 a lot of trees. That's so a lot of the
19:53 potential Stacy was mentioning 300
19:56 acres. It's currently privately owned.
19:58 Um and um but as as central Isqua
20:02 redevelops there is potential even in
20:05 just street trees um probably you know
20:08 adding to canopy um but again I don't
20:11 know that that's going to be a 4%. So
20:15 trying to be realistic I think is really
20:17 what Stacy's question is.
20:25 I'll just say that I'm personally not in
20:28 favor
20:30 overly ambitious targets in this
20:33 respect. Um, first of all, I don't
20:36 necessarily think that these are a
20:39 perfect proxy for environmental
20:43 things like wildlife habitat. All that
20:44 kind of depend on what species are. um
20:47 whether there's continuous travel
20:49 workers for wildlife or whether it's
20:51 just you know one tree here or there
20:55 which doesn't necessarily
20:58 provide
21:00 habitat
21:02 um but then the other thing is we're
21:04 talking on a hyper scale within
21:08 and what I see happening when we kind of
21:10 come out uh and look at our neighbors is
21:13 that if it's increasingly difficult to
21:17 develop it's here in developers go to
21:20 like Maple Valley and they're taking
21:22 down you know just acres and acres of
21:25 trees and so from that perspective
21:29 um you're creating these externalities
21:32 by maintaining a stricter standard here
21:39 >> like I like Diana
21:43 she's singing from my playbook over
21:48 Chris,
21:49 >> I don't know if anybody would have has
21:52 had the time yet, but you know, the
21:55 question that came up in my mind
21:56 immediately is so you said in the 2010s
21:59 we saw an increase of 4% which got us
22:02 from something to something else. How
22:05 much of that is just all the trees
22:09 growing a little bit
22:11 >> and then less the few that these get
22:14 taken down or whatever planted. But you
22:16 know how much of that getting to 55
22:18 would be achieved just by natural growth
22:21 of what we have. Um, you know, it's
22:25 almost like a project for a summer
22:26 intern or something to spend a lot of
22:28 time digitizing some aerial photos and
22:30 figuring out what what actually happens
22:32 because you might be able to get close
22:34 to that without trying too hard and then
22:37 the other part becomes more achievable
22:38 or something that actually happened by
22:43 active actions.
22:46 >> Yeah, that's an excellent question. I
22:48 believe there's another tree canopy
22:50 study that's going to be done in the
22:51 next year or so. Um, and that may give
22:55 us an idea of where we are and I I'll
22:56 talk to Dan whether that shows a mature
22:59 and trees so that we could get an idea.
23:06 Some of what I think I'm hearing um in
23:08 this conversation, Stacey, and some of
23:10 what certainly Dan and I have talked a
23:12 lot about is I as this goes back to the
23:16 Environ board, I I think
23:19 quantity isn't the only metric.
23:22 Um so, you know, I I'm I'd rather have a
23:27 realistic quantity, but then also a
23:29 metric that talks about canopy health.
23:33 So whether it's 51%
23:36 but but getting healthier um is also a
23:40 really really important metric. So it's
23:41 not just about how much, it's how well.
23:50 >> I like what they're about this equity as
23:52 well. And so I think to your point on
23:55 quality, it's like where are the places
23:57 where we should be focusing our effort?
23:59 We should do that.
24:01 >> So I think that's really great.
24:04 Yeah, that's what I was going to speak
24:06 to a bit match as we or further as we
24:08 know that there's areas around the city
24:10 that really lack that tree canopy and so
24:13 having at least from public side focus
24:16 our efforts in those areas throughways
24:20 programs making sure that people have
24:23 access to those benefits.
24:28 >> I think I discussion
24:29 >> I agree with a lot of that. I mean I
24:32 don't know enough about this
24:34 field to provide any real.
24:38 It's like one of those things is like
24:39 you're trying to strive
24:41 from 51 to 55 is the the cost to get
24:45 there like mountains exponentially where
24:47 it's like when I look around and as
24:50 discussed and we saw the survey from
24:52 last time is how we how we rate compared
24:55 to our neighbors is we're already I feel
24:57 in a really good spot and so like the m
25:00 the maintenance of that and the
25:03 continuing to to work on that but maybe
25:05 not have that lofty goal of like pushing
25:06 even though it does have all those
25:08 additional benefits. I think kind of
25:11 where my brain kind of falls into is we
25:14 have this beautiful thing already. Let's
25:15 secure it and make it better, but not
25:17 necessarily need to push to make it just
25:20 a bigger number.
25:24 >> Great. Well, I will take this feedback
25:26 to the environmental board and then I
25:28 anticipate we'll end up we the
25:30 environmental board will provide a
25:31 recommendation to council. We may show
25:33 different options um there, but we'll
25:35 definitely provide
25:38 questions
25:40 target forward.
25:42 Um so next
25:44 all right um I'm gonna walk through five
25:48 actions um to get your feedback. These
25:50 are follow-up conversations from the
25:52 fall.
25:54 Um and I'll go one at a time just so we
25:57 can focus in on each one. Um so the
26:00 first one uh the current action in our
26:02 plan talks about implementing um the
26:06 park plan and so what we are proposing
26:09 is to adjust that action to include the
26:13 updated name of the park plan and then
26:15 to add in the urban forest management
26:16 plan that was not adopted prior to the
26:21 um and then the other piece of this
26:23 action is instead of calling out very
26:26 specific actions in the park planner
26:28 forest management plan to speak
26:31 generally that the IAP is focused on the
26:35 actions in those other plans that help
26:37 us meet the climate.
26:40 So a fairly minor revision here really
26:43 just to encompass
26:49 that pretty sums up what we talked about
26:50 last time pretty well.
26:53 >> And I'll just note these are the longer
26:55 descriptions I provided for you. We'll
26:57 have a a short action name for each of
26:59 these.
27:00 >> And just a time check, Stacy, we're
27:02 going to try and wrap this up like
27:05 >> five minutes.
27:05 >> Y
27:06 >> yeah, great.
27:08 >> Um okay. And then the next one, um this
27:14 is focused in on uh increasing
27:18 uh trees in the private area with
27:20 private land owners. Um I'll just note
27:24 here that uh the language around
27:28 sequestration was flagged and so we'll
27:30 providing more general terms uh for what
27:34 that actually mean which is absorbing
27:36 carbon taking in carbon um just so it's
27:39 to the um but this this action is really
27:44 not changing from the current action. Um
27:47 the one idea that did come up was to
27:49 include some language around that
27:51 distribution and looking at tree equity
27:54 um to align with a new target.
28:00 Any concerns questions here?
28:12 >> We can do that. Yeah, the current action
28:14 focuses on trees, but absolutely
28:19 >> Yes. Do you have any recommendations on
28:24 >> Yeah.
28:36 Yeah. I'll I'll talk with Dan.
28:46 Right. Uh the third one is a brand new
28:49 action that looks at invasive
28:52 species and addressing invasive species
28:54 that impact our forest health. Uh there
28:57 was a lot of interest in focusing on
28:59 private. So that's reflected in the
29:02 section.
29:05 questions, concerns about the language
29:08 here.
29:10 >> And I think all of these that are
29:12 private property related are are
29:13 volunteer in nature, not not mandates.
29:17 >> Yeah.
29:17 >> Yes.
29:18 >> Yep. So, uh the previous one would be
29:21 programs like our tree giveaway program.
29:23 Uh this one, yeah, a voluntary program
29:26 where we offer education outreach
29:28 services to support our department.
29:38 Um the next one is also new. Uh for a
29:43 little bit of background here, we were
29:45 considering developing a wildlife and
29:48 habitat resilience section of our
29:52 community resilience focus area in the
29:54 plan. Uh we felt like this action better
29:58 aligned with the natural system section.
30:01 Soing including it there. This is around
30:05 enhancements for riparian protection,
30:07 flood plane, uh looking at strategic
30:10 acquisitions,
30:12 um and then also supporting the
30:14 resilience of wildlife. Um it's a little
30:18 different than the rest of the climate
30:19 action plan, but it's being proposed
30:22 because this was such a big area focus
30:25 with the comprehensive plan update and
30:28 currently the IAP nor other CD plants
30:31 really address topic. Um so essentially
30:35 this is around habitat resilience um in
30:39 order to improve the ability to respond
30:41 to the changes.
30:56 I don't know if it feels like action
30:58 like supporting like it's just the other
31:00 ones are a little stronger. Yeah.
31:02 >> So I don't know if you guys answer, but
31:04 I you guys are looking at that one. Like
31:06 is there a call to action there?
31:08 >> Right. What's the program?
31:12 >> Yeah.
31:12 >> The other ones just seem a little bit
31:13 more.
31:17 >> Yeah.
31:18 >> And the nexus between I mean protection
31:20 of wildlife absolutely important, but
31:22 what's the nexus with climate?
31:24 >> And that's Yes. So what we've spoken
31:28 about is trying to build that resilience
31:30 for a changing climate because there's a
31:32 real strong interest to see this
31:34 incorporated into the climate action
31:36 plan um for better alignment with the
31:38 comp plan. But yes, we will work on some
31:41 boarding here and figuring out what that
31:43 call action
31:48 we are
31:50 do these quick. Um, so then the last one
31:54 is a revision to a current plan or
31:57 excuse me a current action. We wanted to
31:59 bring it before you because it is so
32:01 related to many
32:04 programs like green is um and so wanted
32:08 to make sure that you all were able to
32:09 provide feedback. Um the current
32:12 language in the IAP is really focused on
32:14 a specific climate outreach campaign and
32:17 what we're recommending is broadening
32:19 that to um include additional public
32:22 engagement activities that really focus
32:25 on education and climate action. Um, we
32:29 wanted to provide some flexibility so
32:31 that staff can uh really implement the
32:35 the best programs, outreach, um, and
32:39 education opportunities. So this could
32:42 be everything from Dan leading a hike
32:45 with or leading a greenness event and
32:49 speaking about how this supports our
32:52 climate action in the city or hike being
32:54 led by a community partner where they
32:56 connect it back
32:59 uh uh climate work. So um really
33:02 provides kind of a lot of opportunity
33:05 to reach the public
33:13 question any feedback on this.
33:20 This was rapid feedback session. So um
33:24 you do have a memo with additional
33:26 details uh or with the details on all
33:30 these actions. Um so please feel free to
33:33 reach out to our team or the park team
33:36 and we can additional feedback.
33:40 Um what we will be doing next is
33:43 bringing this input to the environmental
33:45 board as we work on further revisions to
33:47 the climate action plan that will be um
33:51 uh taken to the PD committee and then
33:55 eventually put through the council
33:57 process.
34:00 The last item I was going to mention um
34:03 is that our Pickering Barn solar
34:05 installation is currently scheduled.
34:07 This project's been in the works for a
34:09 very long time. Um, so we're looking at
34:12 scheduling a ribbon cutting ceremony
34:14 likely in early April. So we'll extend
34:16 an invite to
34:18 have you all at that event
34:22 >> completed just before farmers market and
34:24 we'll have some solar solar panels and a
34:27 great demonstration site as we head into
34:29 farmers market. So Stacy, thanks. Really
34:32 appreciate it.
34:33 >> Thanks for the discussion as well around
34:35 tree canopy. Um, important one there.
34:39 >> Thank you, Mayor.
34:43 >> All right. Next item, Mr. Chair.
34:47 >> So, want to have a chance to welcome uh
34:50 introduce uh Mayor Mullet. I don't know,
34:52 Mayor, if you want to have
34:54 >> I would love if people Yeah. people
34:55 could say how long they've been on the
34:58 park board for and then how long they've
35:00 had a connection is awa for would be
35:02 great.
35:03 >> So, I don't know.
35:04 >> Katie, do you want to kick off?
35:06 Yes, you start.
35:07 >> Oh, Nick, sorry.
35:11 >> Um, since 2020,
35:18 >> two or three
35:21 >> time goes fast. You're having fun.
35:26 >> Okay.
35:33 19.
35:36 It got in 2016. So,
35:38 >> okay. Where'd you come from?
35:40 >> Minnesota.
35:40 >> Oh, wow.
35:42 >> Twin Cities.
35:43 >> Okay.
35:54 >> Yeah. May of last year.
35:55 >> Yeah. Got it.
35:57 >> Hi, I'm Hannah. I also started May of
35:59 last year. Um, you moved to Izzy in
36:03 2020.
36:04 >> Okay. Co move.
36:06 >> Yeah.
36:06 >> From where?
36:07 >> Awesome.
36:08 >> Okay. Seattle to here. Okay.
36:13 >> Martha,
36:16 two years.
36:19 And um, so far, I think I beat everybody
36:22 so far, but we beat um, we joined, we've
36:25 been in this class since 1990.
36:27 >> Oh, wow. Yes. You're ahead right now.
36:30 >> Yes.
36:31 You got me beat. I'm 06. So
36:37 >> my name is Chris. I've been on the park
36:39 for nine years, I think. Glad I asked.
36:43 >> And we moved here in 2000.
36:45 >> Okay.
36:46 >> So 2016.
36:47 >> Where'd you come from?
36:48 >> Uh Seattle and before that California.
36:50 >> Okay. Got it. Got it.
36:52 >> Cool.
36:52 >> Uh David Lou been on the board for four
36:55 years now. Um moved family moved here
36:58 2017. So,
36:59 >> okay. Where from?
37:01 >> Um, from San Francisco, actually.
37:03 >> Oh, really? Be here. Okay.
37:05 >> Ryan Olsson. Um, I think I've been on
37:07 the board for four years, give or take.
37:09 >> Um, been in Isqua for eight. Prior to
37:12 that, uh, Seattle,
37:15 Bellingham.
37:16 >> Okay. Bellingham. My daughter is a
37:17 Western grad.
37:19 >> Yeah.
37:20 >> One more. Nick, our youth, our youth
37:22 representative.
37:23 >> Yeah. My name's Nick Wilson. I'm senior
37:26 at Gibson High School.
37:27 >> Oh,
37:28 >> yeah. And this is um about my second
37:31 meeting.
37:33 >> All right.
37:34 >> You get that award?
37:37 >> Lived here. Yeah. My whole life
37:42 18 years.
37:46 >> Well, I appreciate you guys taking some
37:48 time. I just wanted to share. I think
37:52 I started this role on January 1st. sat
37:54 down with the finance director the first
37:56 week you start looking at your bonds
37:59 that are outstanding and when they
38:00 expire and it kind of jumped out at me
38:03 that there is a park bond expiring this
38:05 year. So I think the way I think about
38:07 these things is if you let it expire and
38:10 you don't renew it when you go to renew
38:12 it the next year now you're raising
38:13 people's taxes. So I think there's an
38:15 argument to be made to say you have to
38:17 actually make sure you ask for the bond
38:20 renewal before it expires. So it expires
38:22 this year. So that means November of
38:24 this year will be our last chance to ask
38:27 squad voters do they want to renew this
38:29 park bond. And to be honest to put
38:32 things in perspective, the King County
38:34 parks levy, if you add up what is squad
38:36 people pay, it's roughly $4.5 million.
38:39 This park bond is a year. This park bond
38:42 is $670,000 a year. So it's a drop in
38:45 the bucket if you look at a property tax
38:47 bill. You're not talking about big
38:49 numbers that are really noticeable to
38:50 people. And so then I think the proposal
38:53 was well let's go ask people to renew
38:55 the parks bond and then I worked with
38:57 our finance director and our bond
38:58 department that would free up roughly 9
39:01 or 10 million we can make in park
39:03 investments uh right now. And then we
39:06 then did this long kind of finance dive
39:10 of you know as people pay park
39:12 mitigation payments for new projects
39:14 everything else we started adding up
39:16 what that money came to and we got two
39:18 and a half or $3 million. And so now
39:20 we're kind of like, oh, there's like 12
39:22 or $13 million of investments we can
39:24 make. I think going into this current
39:27 summer, most communities are struggling
39:30 financially. So a lot of the grants that
39:32 are out there, you need a match. And so
39:34 I think we could be in a very
39:35 advantageous place this upcoming summer
39:37 to go after a lot of matches if we
39:40 decide to move forward on kind of doing
39:42 this park bond renewal. And uh and at
39:45 the same time, I think I look at the
39:49 cost of these projects going forward.
39:51 They're not getting any cheaper. And I
39:53 think our community is expensive. I'll
39:55 be honest. Like the average home here is
39:56 a seven figure number. I think the way
39:59 people feel like they're getting value
40:01 for being in isqua is to have a very
40:02 robust parks, trails, and open space
40:05 network. I mean, this is literally
40:06 probably one of the most beautiful
40:08 places in the entire world. I think
40:10 people live here because they enjoy the
40:11 outdoors. So I think everything we do to
40:14 invest in making it easier for people to
40:15 enjoy the outdoors is an advantage I
40:18 think for the square residents. And so
40:20 I'm also open to not only doing the park
40:23 bond renewal, not only you know figuring
40:26 out the best way to spend the impact fee
40:28 money we've been collecting, going after
40:30 grants, but then if there's missing
40:32 money, I'm also open to doing just a
40:33 councilmatic kind of debt issue to
40:36 figure out, you know, as we get better
40:38 numbers. And so we have a list of
40:42 projects based on stuff you guys have
40:44 come up with. So this was basically I
40:47 think projects we went through a list
40:49 that you guys have kind of itemized. I
40:51 think uh one of those projects was and
40:54 we're going to pass this out. Why don't
40:55 we just pass it out?
40:56 >> Yes. Uh,
40:58 and I think this is I mean it's the
41:01 start of the discussion, but we also
41:02 there's a clock ticking because we got
41:04 to if we want to renew our park bond, we
41:08 can't just in my opinion, you can't just
41:10 ask voters for to pay taxes without
41:12 telling them what they're going to get
41:13 in return. And so I think our challenge
41:15 is we want to have a voter guide
41:17 statement in November that kind of
41:20 spells out, hey, these are the things
41:22 you might get or this is what we hope to
41:24 get if we actually move forward with
41:27 this. And and so I think is everyone
41:30 does everyone have the list now? Okay.
41:32 So the first one you guys may or may I'm
41:35 assuming are probably familiar with Yuck
41:37 House at Confluence Park. I think his
41:39 school obviously has a shortage of
41:40 meeting space uh kind of sitting there.
41:43 it's not going to ever fix itself. So I
41:45 think the thought is I mean we got that
41:46 when I was on the council. So I was on
41:48 the council 09 to13 that's when we
41:50 acquired the confluence parks you know
41:53 property and when we got it way back
41:55 then the idea was we're going to
41:57 refurbish this thing and now it sat for
41:59 the last 15 years. Uh so that's one of
42:02 them. I think the the Ramos trail head
42:05 paving, I think that access to Tiger
42:08 Mountain because it's literally right
42:09 off the freeway is extremely popular and
42:12 it's also like when I was in the state
42:14 senate, I don't know if people ever hike
42:15 at High Point off exit 20, but I don't
42:18 remember that road used to be like like
42:20 that thing was just moon craters like
42:22 you and so unless you had a four-wheel
42:23 drive car like if you try to go with
42:25 that thing in a Prius like you were
42:26 going to screw up your transmission. We
42:28 paved that and it made a huge difference
42:30 and giving people access who didn't have
42:33 four-wheel drive vehicles to enjoy that
42:35 trail head. I think we have the similar
42:38 challenge with this, you know, right
42:40 there off Sunset. It's a bad parking
42:42 lot. It sucks. And and plus there's kind
42:46 of a shortage of bathroom facilities. So
42:48 I think the thought is pave it, put in a
42:50 bathroom and you really kind of
42:52 substantially change I think how people
42:55 can utilize that access on the Tiger
42:58 Mountain which I think would be a huge
42:59 win for the community. I think you guys
43:01 have acquired some really good
43:02 properties uh you know between Bergsma
43:06 and Kolkari and I think the thought is
43:10 the easier you make it to access trail
43:11 networks in those properties it's a
43:13 giant win for the community and so I
43:15 think that's where the thought for those
43:16 projects comes from. I think you'll
43:18 start to see a theme here because we're
43:21 having geographic diversity but also
43:24 park use diversity because now you're
43:27 kind of shifting from some of the open
43:29 space public meetings trail access to
43:32 the next one really goes back to the
43:34 work you guys have been doing for the
43:36 shared use agreement with the Isqua
43:37 school district. I think I will say
43:40 campaigning last year, I think what
43:42 people really hate is when governments
43:44 create unnecessary silos and it's like
43:46 you have the city of Isqua, then you
43:47 have the Isqua school district, Isqua
43:49 school district. It's very territorial
43:50 over all their stuff. And so I think our
43:53 big goal is how do we break down kind of
43:55 that false barrier because at the end of
43:57 the day it's all this taxpayer money and
43:59 it'd be nice if everyone was kind of
44:01 being more open with their facilities to
44:02 help each other out and I think we have
44:04 a chance to do a couple pilot projects
44:06 in that space. I think uh the two ones
44:09 that really jump out is is turfing Esqua
44:11 Valley Elementary because that, you
44:13 know, grassy field is a swamp at recess.
44:16 It sucks for kids and and so but that is
44:19 also if you did turf it, I mean that
44:22 would be great field space. We don't
44:23 have to buy anything, right? We're not
44:25 making a land acquisition. We're just
44:27 taking land that's publicly owned, just
44:28 not by us. And yeah, benefits kids at
44:31 recess. We get it evenings, we get it
44:33 weekends, we get it all summer. And I
44:35 think there's a win for the community.
44:36 You also have a similar sand lot at
44:38 Grand Ridge Elementary behind that which
44:40 is right next to kind of our whole
44:42 Central Park ecosystem. Once again,
44:44 that's where all my kids went. I mean,
44:46 that's a crappy in the winter. I mean,
44:47 that thing is just not a usable. It's
44:50 not a fun place for kids to go out at
44:52 recess. So, I think if you were able to
44:54 turp that one as well, especially with
44:56 proximity to to Central Park and all the
44:59 other things, once again, you're opening
45:00 up cool opportunities and I think it's
45:02 really sending a message to the school
45:03 district. It's time for us to do as much
45:05 cooperation as possible across all our
45:07 facilities, not just park facilities. We
45:09 want to use the auditorium of the high
45:11 school for more community events as
45:12 well. Uh beyond that, you see some other
45:15 ideas. I I think memorial field is a
45:18 really interesting one. I mean that is
45:20 also and some of these have POS
45:22 challenges, right? And I think you could
45:24 kill two birds with one stone of you
45:27 know where the technology is there where
45:30 you could turf a field without tires.
45:32 We're talking court methods now. also
45:34 much better for the environment. At the
45:36 same time, you kind of create this
45:38 barrier where the PAS is basically being
45:40 pushed down beneath. And I mean, this is
45:42 the forever chemical that just
45:44 unfortunately is present in this squad
45:46 because of the way we cleaned all our
45:48 fire equipment back in the day. And uh
45:50 but there is a chance with Memorial
45:52 Field where I think you could turf it
45:53 and solve the PAS issues at the same
45:55 time. That also feeds into the Dodd
45:57 Field which is owned by the school
45:58 district where the Little League stuff
46:00 happens that has really high PAS levels.
46:02 And so I think there's some potential
46:04 not only better public use wins but at
46:06 the same time some environmental health
46:08 wins as well. Uh and then the final
46:12 couple which is ironic cuz I am a tennis
46:14 player but
46:17 I will say side note when we made state
46:21 we made pickle ball the state sport of
46:23 Washington at Bass Senate 48 to1. I was
46:25 the only person who said someone has to
46:27 stand up for the tennis community. But
46:29 that being said I play pickle ball all
46:30 the time. So, it's a it's a fun sport
46:34 and uh and I do think it gets a lot of
46:36 usage and so we don't at this point have
46:38 any dedicated pickle ball courts.
46:39 Obviously, we're just doing the tennis
46:41 courts which works great, but I think
46:42 there is an opportunity here. And then
46:45 Tibbitz Valley, I mean, this is I think
46:48 there's a lot of cool stuff happening
46:49 potentially at Tibbitz. Uh I think when
46:52 you doorbell the Talis neighborhood,
46:53 their main complaint is Highland's got
46:55 all the parks. Talis just got a bunch of
46:57 homes and got short changed. We can't
46:59 fix that now. It's literally that ship
47:01 is sailed. The only thing you can fix is
47:04 how do you make Tibets as robust as
47:05 possible? It's literally the closest
47:07 park to them. At the same time, you
47:09 know, I just came from the Sisqua light
47:11 rail meeting. We're trying to get light
47:12 rail to end right in the middle between
47:14 Costco and Target there in the middle of
47:16 I90. That's where we want all our future
47:18 development to happen. The closest park
47:20 for those people is going to end up
47:22 being Tibets, I think. And so, we need
47:25 to make some huge upgrades and
47:26 investments, I think, at Tibbitz. Uh,
47:29 this starts with the idea of, you know,
47:31 an all-inclusive playground. I think at
47:33 the same time,
47:36 Lakeside is doing homes up in the
47:37 Highlands, and I think we're in
47:39 negotiations with them about, you know,
47:42 what sort of mitigation payment we can
47:43 get for the density they want to put in
47:46 up there to make, you know, I don't
47:49 know, we want to make a run at the Kelly
47:51 Ranch. I mean, we really do. I think the
47:53 time is now to try to acquire that
47:55 property and and really enhance. It's 35
47:58 acres connects obviously contiguous to
48:00 Tibbitz and I think there is a you know
48:04 this park bond investment be the first I
48:07 think of saying hey Tibbitz needs some
48:09 love it needs some investment you know
48:11 based on the talis and the future growth
48:13 that we see coming this is a place and
48:16 uh but that's the rough idea and I think
48:18 the the goal is you know I know there's
48:21 one item on here where we just don't
48:23 know with cost yet I was saying to Jeff
48:25 I wish Costco sold to feels because I
48:28 want like a volume discount but uh the
48:32 but that's the premise
48:34 so you guys are seeing it first uh
48:38 >> and I think the thought is to start this
48:40 process and I think that this isn't like
48:43 we're open to ideas I mean this is we're
48:45 just throwing out a you know something
48:47 that we think is spread geographically
48:49 throughout isqua but at the same time
48:52 also has people who want athletic fields
48:54 people who want playgrounds people who
48:55 want pickle all people want trail
48:57 access. You know, I think the Confluence
49:00 project's very unique. Uh I think
49:02 everything's we're trying to find a mix.
49:04 So I think what So we're open to ideas
49:07 if there's something on here that we're
49:09 not thinking of. Like I'm not saying
49:11 this is an exhaustive list, but we also
49:13 are trying to the big change I think for
49:16 how we're approaching things this year
49:17 is try to live in fiscal reality. Uh,
49:20 and I really like what you you guys were
49:23 saying on the tree canopy goals. Like
49:25 having goals that aren't realistic isn't
49:27 really the best use of our finite
49:29 resources. I think we have to have
49:30 realistic goals. The same thing comes to
49:32 finances. Like we could come up, we
49:34 could sit here and come up with $50
49:35 million of amazing park projects, but
49:38 that is outside of what we can actually
49:40 afford to do. And so I think you're
49:42 seeing kind of in this range of what we
49:45 think we can do between the park bond
49:47 renewal our current impact fee dollars
49:49 and what I think we can actually support
49:52 just through a councilmatic debt issue.
49:54 Uh and and so but that being said if we
49:57 find really cool stuff that we think is
49:59 missing I could always try to figure out
50:02 you know where the stretch is I guess
50:03 but I'm curious for feedback.
50:05 >> Yeah.
50:08 Um, EP house. I know we always talk
50:10 about the EF house wanted to visit. The
50:12 thing that jumped out at me on this one
50:13 was $2 to3 million feels like a lot.
50:16 >> Yeah, I agree. Willie, THAT'S WHAT I
50:18 SAID TO JEFF. I'M LIKE, WHAT THE HELL
50:19 HAPPENED? HIS FIRST NUMBER WAS a
50:21 million.
50:24 >> Like taxpayer projects and bank feels
50:27 high. Not saying we shouldn't do
50:29 something to the house, but like that
50:31 felt aggressive to me. um on the
50:34 athletic field. Something I want to call
50:36 out is we talk a lot about um equity of
50:38 turf. Um and then a big component
50:40 obviously tips everyone I'm glad to hear
50:43 that it doesn't come out on this page.
50:45 So I think like how we strengthen that
50:46 that's part of what we want to do with
50:48 this I think would help with the talis
50:50 and squawk problem.
50:51 >> Yeah. Yeah.
50:52 >> Um I think the same thing when I think
50:53 about this valley elementary that's that
50:56 huge flat. That's awesome. Like that
50:57 would be amazing. Clark has the same
50:59 problem.
51:00 >> Clark is Clark's candidate too. It's
51:02 right there.
51:02 >> But I think like I think with the
51:05 Highlands, I love the Highlands, they
51:06 get a lot of turf and they have a lot of
51:08 all the time use that they can walk to.
51:10 That does not happen in the rest of the
51:11 spot. So I think it's important at least
51:14 for me to say how are we making sure
51:16 that this is Canadian.
51:17 >> Yeah. Yeah.
51:18 >> Enough across.
51:19 >> Yeah. Yeah.
51:20 >> Otherwise, I like all the things that
51:22 we're talking about.
51:25 >> Yeah. And if I could if I could just add
51:27 a couple great overview, mayor, thank
51:29 you. Th this I these are familiar
51:32 projects and that as as for the last
51:36 seven weeks as we've been sort of
51:37 exploring this and thinking boy this is
51:39 a really strategic moment to to um ask
51:42 is voters and figure out how to leverage
51:45 a bond renewal with some of these other
51:47 revenues. what can we get done and
51:49 realizing I think as the mayor said um
51:53 of the projects that have already been
51:55 prioritized in the park system plan and
51:56 all the public engagement we've done
51:59 what are those small to medium size that
52:01 give us um the diversity in in a mix um
52:07 the cost estimates please don't nobody
52:09 get married to them or went into them
52:11 they're super super super super rough so
52:16 um I think the idea with conflict uence
52:18 if you recall from those discussions is
52:19 not just renovation of the house but
52:22 it's really reimagining that whole
52:24 northeast corner of Confluence Park that
52:26 just feels
52:28 it feels unfinished right and so there
52:31 would need to be a lot of in the next
52:34 couple of months um as Robin and I have
52:36 been beginning to to to think about this
52:39 and squeezing this into our work plan
52:40 there's going to be a lot of defining
52:43 should we be moving forward on this and
52:46 cost estimating that gets us drill down
52:48 a lot more specific. Um
52:51 >> yeah,
52:53 not your numbers. I just say we're going
52:55 to split out you know 20 million like
52:57 what's the
52:58 >> Yeah. Yeah. No you
53:00 >> thanks that was just my
53:03 >> it's really good Marlene if I could have
53:04 one thought TVP you're right is is that
53:08 there's still a need to revision Tibbitz
53:10 Valley Park and
53:14 that is going to be such a big lift
53:17 >> we weren't sure where to begin on it
53:19 like we don't want to make small
53:20 investments that then screw up a big
53:22 investment.
53:26 Every time we start talking about tiles,
53:28 everyone's like, "It's too big. You
53:29 don't know what to do with it."
53:30 >> But I do think we are. So, well, I mean,
53:35 since this is We're trying to be really
53:37 creative. I think if if we can make the
53:39 Kelly Ranch deal happen, I think there
53:42 is a portion of property there where you
53:43 could actually put homes. Uh they don't
53:46 they don't have access to that portion
53:48 right now because we had to give them
53:49 access. So I think the question is could
53:51 we do all 35 acres but the part where we
53:55 could give ourselves access now we
53:57 create a valuable residential lot and if
54:00 we were to sell that we could reinvest
54:02 all those funds back into Tibbitz solely
54:05 and I think it's uh but there's a lot of
54:08 dominoes have to fall first the Kelly
54:10 Ranch folks have to agree to sell a
54:12 sedan property and so uh
54:15 >> it's the one with all the little boats
54:19 30 30 plus acres just south of Timbitz
54:21 Valley Park.
54:24 >> So it's the one it's uh but people have
54:27 been talking about buying the Kelly
54:28 Ranch since I was on the council. So
54:29 this has been out here forever. But I
54:32 think the point now is we're trying to
54:35 just
54:37 at some point you just have to make a
54:38 run at these things. And so I think the
54:40 strategy we're saying is Jeff's going to
54:42 them saying we got a new mayor like I
54:43 want to pitch him on this. what's the
54:45 cheapest you guys would sell your
54:46 property for? I mean, I think that's our
54:48 strategy and then uh and then we just go
54:51 after it. But I think I agree Tibets
54:54 needs a a larger investment and like I
54:56 say, I think if if this does end up
54:59 going through, I think I'm not I am not
55:03 ruling out using councilmatic debt to
55:05 make investments that I I think will not
55:08 get cheaper down the road. like waiting
55:10 isn't actually saving the taxpayers
55:11 money because you can literally borrow
55:13 money at a lower interest rate and the
55:15 cost of these projects are going up from
55:16 year to year. So there is a lot to be
55:19 said of of just saying hey
55:22 needs it now and and I think uh pay as
55:25 you go doesn't work for the size of that
55:27 project. You're going to have to look at
55:28 bonding I think. But but that being said
55:31 it's you know one advantage we have as a
55:33 city right now we have a $68 million
55:35 general fund. We have 1.7 million of
55:37 debt service. That is we're in a good
55:39 spot. Like we I didn't come in as mayor
55:42 like my biggest positive surprise was oh
55:44 wow like a city of our general fund side
55:47 could easily have $4 million debt
55:49 service. I think so I think we have some
55:51 flexibility to look at. We just got to
55:52 make sure we're being really strategic
55:54 about those investments. I think
55:58 >> um how much of the 16 to 20 would be the
56:01 replacement bond?
56:03 >> Half of it.
56:04 >> Yep. So then the other half would be
56:06 councilmatic and matching grants and the
56:10 $3 million park fees that developers
56:13 have been paying. So yeah.
56:15 >> Yeah.
56:15 >> And then the other part too is the two
56:19 things people ask me about all the time
56:22 are tibbits and the dog park tibbits.
56:26 Just reporting what I hear.
56:29 >> So well that's good feedback. I mean
56:31 what is dog park option there?
56:34 uh dog park area was proposed um on the
56:38 sort of upper part of the park up on
56:40 just off of 12 um
56:43 >> those town homes
56:45 just below the town homes
56:46 >> below the town homes on on on
56:49 property. Yeah, Tibbitz Valley Park
56:51 property um for some critical areas.
56:54 There's also just per our development
56:57 code since there's an adopted master
56:59 plan for the park. there's a rather
57:02 expensive bill that would need to be
57:04 paid to revise the master plan. Um,
57:07 >> oh,
57:08 >> so I mean there's there's
57:10 >> there were a number of things that
57:11 needed to be sort of thought through of,
57:13 hey, let's let's get a master plan for
57:15 the whole park. Let's let's reinvision
57:17 the whole park. um let's get a dog park
57:20 over um let's get a first dog park over
57:23 by the community center and realize
57:25 again with the size and scale and mayor
57:27 you may not have heard this but you know
57:30 a lot of the dog park discussion we had
57:32 for the last couple of years has been
57:34 hey Isiqua is not a town that's going to
57:36 create a one 5 to 10 acre dog park our
57:39 our dog park strategy needs to be smart
57:41 with our land realities and we need to
57:44 look at dispersed you know one one acre
57:47 dog parks in multiple parts of town.
57:50 >> I have three dogs. I will say problem
57:52 with three dogs is when you walk three
57:54 dogs, everyone assumes you work for
57:55 Rover. So I will warn you, don't get a
57:58 third dog. Unless you want people to ask
57:59 you to be their professional dog walker.
58:03 >> Nicholas free advice.
58:06 Stop it. Two dogs.
58:10 >> I think it would be good. Also, I mean
58:12 ambitious plan. You can't come to a park
58:14 board and say we're going to do all
58:15 this. We're all going to love it. Right.
58:16 I think the diversity of the program is
58:18 great. The one thing that we should
58:20 focus on is specifically with the
58:22 athletic fields, maybe putting those
58:24 more in the front of the five or six
58:26 year plan, whatever we build out,
58:28 because they could be more revenue
58:29 generating, you know, similar to Central
58:30 Park. So, it actually starts to pay back
58:32 more. Yeah.
58:33 >> And fund even additional projects down
58:35 the line. Right. So,
58:37 >> you're right. There's going to need to
58:38 be a sequencing. This is a a $20 million
58:41 of work with five or six projects is a
58:45 sixy year. It's a five or six year
58:47 endeavor. So, you're right. How we
58:48 >> That's hopefully quicker.
58:51 >> A little quicker than that, but Okay.
58:56 >> But yeah, that's a good Yeah. Uh well,
58:59 and I I will say that it's uh my take
59:03 away from my Senate time is it's
59:05 sometimes it's you kind of list the
59:08 projects and then you go you sequence as
59:12 because sometimes if you put the
59:14 sequence on the voter guide statement
59:15 sometimes then everyone just complains
59:17 about the sequence and the thing they
59:19 want is at the tail end of it. So
59:20 sometimes the trick is you just got to
59:23 say here's what we're going to do if you
59:25 support this and uh and then we have to
59:27 then prioritize on the back end because
59:30 I agree with what you're saying though
59:31 what you're saying makes a lot of sense.
59:35 >> Question. So is there a way you could
59:38 still move forward without acquiring the
59:40 Cali property?
59:41 >> Yes.
59:43 >> Yes. 100%.
59:44 >> With Tibis Valley Park.
59:45 >> Yes. 100%.
59:46 >> Yes.
59:47 >> That's just that would be like the dream
59:48 scenario. And so I think we're going to
59:50 make a run at it. I think uh either
59:54 they're going to come back to us in the
59:55 number that is basically telling us to
59:56 pound sand or they're going to come back
59:57 with a number that actually maybe we
1:00:00 just buy it and this whole thing's
1:00:01 finally, you know, we spike the football
1:00:04 and just declare a success. I don't
1:00:05 know. We're going to find out though uh
1:00:08 one way or the other. I think we got to
1:00:10 force the question with them and see how
1:00:12 it goes.
1:00:14 But if they say if they're open to it,
1:00:17 if it's a reasonable response from them
1:00:19 in this first quarter, like we're going
1:00:22 to make a run at it.
1:00:26 >> We find really creative ways to purchase
1:00:28 property.
1:00:30 >> I mean, right now the plan for the
1:00:32 Lakeside development is to buy 400 TDR
1:00:34 units. If they buy 400 TDR units, that
1:00:37 money will go somewhere else that has
1:00:38 nothing to do with this. And they'll
1:00:40 write a big giant check, you know, for5
1:00:43 to$10 million. we won't really see much
1:00:44 of it at all. So, our proposal is we're
1:00:47 going to redo that agreement, just have
1:00:49 them make a park mitigation payment
1:00:51 directly to us that we could use to
1:00:53 acquire open space and and that would
1:00:56 qualify like is kind of our back of the
1:00:58 napkin thinking of of how we would go
1:01:01 about it. So, first step is figuring out
1:01:03 if they're interested from the Kelly
1:01:04 Rando site. But I think our plan is to
1:01:07 to redo the lakeside development
1:01:09 agreement to try to just have them
1:01:11 basically instead of having to buy TDRs
1:01:14 to get the housing units they want on
1:01:16 that on that parcel, they would just
1:01:18 make a payment to us that we could then
1:01:20 reinvest in the community.
1:01:23 >> But again, different
1:01:25 >> lot of dominoes to fall
1:01:26 >> different than completely different than
1:01:28 this.
1:01:29 >> This is all clean. that thing is
1:01:31 complicated. We don't want to put
1:01:32 anything complicated in front of the
1:01:33 voters. I think it's just like you vote
1:01:35 yes, we're going to build these like and
1:01:37 that's our message and uh yeah,
1:01:44 other general thoughts
1:01:47 much more discussion ahead. I think
1:01:50 Mayor, some of what I know we've talked
1:01:52 about is um there'll be a further
1:01:55 conversation in April with city council.
1:01:58 um would love to come back and our spend
1:02:01 have some dedicated time at our March
1:02:03 park board meeting talking about this a
1:02:05 little further as
1:02:06 >> this was probably the April 6 council
1:02:07 meeting. It's facilities and this park
1:02:09 bond. So, and uh facilities is a whole
1:02:12 different animal. We got to figure out
1:02:13 how to redo the police station and move
1:02:15 the people that are currently in the
1:02:16 police station that aren't police
1:02:17 officers, i.e. me
1:02:20 somewhere else in the city. So it's uh
1:02:23 yeah, so that's a whole different but of
1:02:26 that meeting at the council on April 6
1:02:27 like facilities and this park bond are
1:02:30 the big things and I presented this to
1:02:31 the council at our retreat on January
1:02:33 31st. That was so the council sort of
1:02:36 got hey this is I think we got to renew
1:02:39 this park bond and and if we're going to
1:02:41 renew it, we better come up with a list
1:02:42 of things that is squab voters are going
1:02:44 to get if they vote yes and and that's
1:02:46 what our goal is to come up with a good
1:02:47 list uh for that.
1:02:50 >> Yeah. So, prior to that April 6th
1:02:51 meeting, it will be our March 23rd
1:02:53 meeting. We'd love to keep furthering
1:02:56 this conversation to get Rob and I.
1:02:58 We'll keep doing some work.
1:02:59 >> Marlin, keep getting the lower the
1:03:00 numbers. Like, the lower the numbers are
1:03:02 on this, the better. I like the way
1:03:04 you're thinking.
1:03:04 >> Bring your bring your coupon bring
1:03:07 coupons.
1:03:11 >> And the only thing I will say too, it's
1:03:13 great to see expanded pickle ball at
1:03:15 Central Park and other location.
1:03:18 >> Tibbitz.
1:03:19 >> That'd be Tibbitz. Yes,
1:03:22 >> I agree.
1:03:26 >> So, we got to figure out where you can
1:03:28 do because the problem with where the
1:03:29 tennis courts are at Tibbitz, you can't
1:03:31 do anything without you're too close.
1:03:33 >> So, we have a lot of grandfather in
1:03:35 stuff right now. So, it just would have
1:03:36 to be in a different location because
1:03:38 the tennis location is way too close to
1:03:40 the creek. It's now so it's a But you're
1:03:43 right.
1:03:47 >> But you could add somewhere else
1:03:49 >> or if we or if we do, what does that do
1:03:51 to other future plans for the park or or
1:03:55 the needs for turf fields or
1:03:57 >> I agree pickle ball like we started out
1:03:59 like I mean obviously we've been doing
1:04:00 this for a while but pickle bar pickle
1:04:02 ball at Tibbitz was on the original list
1:04:04 and then things that we realized were
1:04:06 going to create a lot of other side
1:04:07 headaches. We're like, "Oh crap." Like,
1:04:09 but if we could put it somewhere else at
1:04:11 Tibbitz, uh,
1:04:14 >> yeah,
1:04:17 >> that like having a nice playground,
1:04:19 >> community parks sized playground. Yeah.
1:04:22 >> We originally that was just that was
1:04:24 originally like open-ended of anywhere
1:04:26 in the city. And that's when I think we
1:04:27 realized we've got to have something
1:04:29 that is really connected to Tibbitz
1:04:30 specifically. And uh but our hope is and
1:04:34 my you know my goal is in this first
1:04:38 term as mayor is Tibet Valley is going
1:04:41 to see love. I mean I got in the Senate
1:04:43 and I felt like Lake Samage State Park
1:04:44 was dying on the vine and I went to
1:04:46 Olympia and just fought for that part
1:04:48 year in year out and it is completely
1:04:51 transformed I think now in a very
1:04:53 positive way. So park investments
1:04:55 transform communities in a very very
1:04:58 positive direction. So to me like
1:05:00 Tibbitz is the new lakes state park. I
1:05:03 want to see it transformed. So
1:05:06 >> and again we we've said it right and I
1:05:08 so appreciate that mayor. It it is it
1:05:11 needs to be repositioned and ready to
1:05:13 perform for the neighborhood that is
1:05:15 going to be growing around it.
1:05:17 >> Yeah.
1:05:17 >> Um so not you know current residents but
1:05:19 just what that neighborhood's going to
1:05:20 be that that park needs.
1:05:23 >> If you want people to buy homes it's
1:05:24 like where the Hobby Lobby is right now.
1:05:26 You better have them with something they
1:05:27 can walk to that isn't
1:05:29 >> just I mean I like top pot but you can
1:05:31 eat something more than top
1:05:39 >> I do like the gas lamp too. It's a I
1:05:42 know. Don't get rid of those two.
1:05:46 >> I should like the Fortunado chocolate.
1:05:47 The Fortunado chocolate's hiding back in
1:05:49 there too. It's like there's a lot of
1:05:51 good little hidden gems in that part of
1:05:52 his squad. Uh okay. I got to run. Uh
1:05:56 >> mayor, thank you.
1:05:57 >> Yeah. Yeah.
1:05:58 >> We'll be in touch. Thanks everyone.
1:06:00 >> Keep the keep the conversation going.
1:06:04 on the the little bit there just on the
1:06:08 record for my two cents. But um after
1:06:11 learning in one of our most recent
1:06:13 meetings from the school board or school
1:06:14 district that elementary schools fields
1:06:17 are open, they're the only ones that are
1:06:19 actually open to the public out outside
1:06:22 of ours is I I do think I do like the
1:06:25 idea of putting turf in multi-use areas
1:06:27 in those particular someone that when
1:06:30 it's raining, the only place I can go or
1:06:32 has rained within the last 72 hours, the
1:06:35 only place I can go hit a baseball with
1:06:37 my kids field
1:06:39 if you were to to even takeick off a
1:06:41 couple more of these and some of them
1:06:42 look pretty terrible is it's a lot more
1:06:45 space just for people to just walk there
1:06:47 and play and not get soaked in mud.
1:06:50 >> And as you recall when we really talk
1:06:51 about our athletic field um needs and
1:06:54 our priorities in town um back to the
1:06:57 park system plan, right? We said, "Hey,
1:06:59 let's take care of our fields. Let's
1:07:01 let's add multi-use synthetic in our own
1:07:04 system. let's partner with the school
1:07:07 district and find ways to create
1:07:09 community sports fields. And so this
1:07:11 meshes right with that. And as we've
1:07:13 talked with the district and just the
1:07:15 concept to remind you um and why the the
1:07:18 elementary school fields really hold so
1:07:21 much potential is um the the operational
1:07:25 premise is the the residents through the
1:07:28 city make the investment, the city
1:07:31 becomes the scheduler and the city
1:07:33 becomes the maintainer. So during the
1:07:36 school year and during the school day,
1:07:37 the students have a fantastic improved
1:07:40 recess facility. But when school's not
1:07:43 in session or in the afternoons and
1:07:45 evenings, the city is scheduling that
1:07:47 for multiuse, multiport
1:07:50 um open to the public uh use. It really
1:07:54 becomes that win-win. So um the district
1:07:56 seems very interested in that. And um if
1:08:00 there is, you know, as we continue this
1:08:03 idea and if it percolates that this is
1:08:06 the strategic moment to do a park bond
1:08:08 renewal, um those are some really strong
1:08:11 candidate projects. So, um lots to be
1:08:14 done. Um I can I'll tell you right now
1:08:16 the road map is fast to think if there's
1:08:19 a something going to voters in November,
1:08:22 there's a council decision that would
1:08:23 need to be made in August to put
1:08:25 something on the ballot. Um that that's
1:08:28 that's a lot of work. Thankfully, if I
1:08:31 can just add one more comment, we're not
1:08:33 starting from scratch. Again, I want to
1:08:36 reiterate, I think it's important as you
1:08:37 start talking to your neighbors and your
1:08:40 spheres of influence about this idea,
1:08:41 please do. This isn't this isn't set in
1:08:44 stone. Please see that word example
1:08:47 projects. This is meant to just be, hey,
1:08:49 here's a here's a potential menu of what
1:08:52 could be done. Um but um I think the
1:08:56 important thing is that um
1:09:00 I lost my train of thought. Um
1:09:04 >> not set in stone.
1:09:05 >> Well, yeah.
1:09:07 >> Not starting from scratch.
1:09:08 >> Why don't we let D will come for me? No,
1:09:11 it'll it'll come back.
1:09:13 >> Yeah.
1:09:16 >> Um so this
1:09:21 >> Yes. Uh so I know this Kari property is
1:09:25 like just big
1:09:29 land.
1:09:30 >> Um but there is a trail head relatively
1:09:33 close to it already. Um
1:09:36 >> which one?
1:09:39 >> Oh, on the other side.
1:09:40 >> Yeah, slightly to the other side. I mean
1:09:44 >> it's on the north. So I was going to
1:09:47 mention there's nothing on the east.
1:09:49 there is city property that backs up um
1:09:54 the statement but I was wondering if
1:09:56 there's anything that
1:09:59 >> Yeah.
1:10:00 Yes. So the the Squawk Mountain corridor
1:10:03 is both of those Diana. So, so if I
1:10:06 could pull up a map and maybe I'll we'll
1:10:08 have some maps to sort of talk about
1:10:09 these budgets, but but Kil Kilkari 3 is
1:10:14 17 acres that meshes with the 20 acres
1:10:17 that we bought a couple years ago, which
1:10:19 was the way property. So, it creates a
1:10:21 37 acre corridor that goes right to
1:10:25 Squawk Mountain State Park. So, they're
1:10:28 both they're both on the east side of of
1:10:32 Squawk Mountain. So they're one in the
1:10:34 same corridor.
1:10:36 >> Okay.
1:10:41 >> Squawk Valley Park. No, Squawk Valley
1:10:43 Park is is
1:10:45 um across Isiqua Creek. So this wouldn't
1:10:48 this wouldn't involve Squawk Valley
1:10:50 Park. This is off of Sunrise. This is
1:10:53 this is Mine Minehill Trail.
1:11:12 There's long there's long range plans.
1:11:17 any any trail head on that side of the
1:11:22 mountain would involve the need for a
1:11:24 pedestrian bridge across Isiqua Creek.
1:11:26 Um um you'll note in the in the park
1:11:30 system plan and this is going to come up
1:11:32 um we have some community members that
1:11:34 are not really excited about the idea
1:11:35 but you might recall in the in the park
1:11:37 system plan um under Squawk Valley Park
1:11:43 um that parking lot there is really
1:11:45 underutilized. And so one of the
1:11:48 concepts that uh we talked with the
1:11:50 community about and and was in the in
1:11:52 the park system plan is what if there
1:11:55 was a pedestrian bridge there at Squawk
1:11:58 Valley Park that
1:12:01 basically allowed that parking lot to
1:12:03 become a trail head.
1:12:10 >> Oh right, right.
1:12:22 >> so again, I'm I'm I'm
1:12:25 not going to get into a lot of the
1:12:26 conversations we have in terms of
1:12:28 acquisitions because those are really
1:12:30 hard public conversations to have. Um
1:12:33 but yes, aware aware of all of that and
1:12:35 that's certainly part of the strategy I
1:12:38 think as we look at what might be a
1:12:41 candidate for a small to medium-sized
1:12:45 project that would fit in a diverse um
1:12:48 park bond renewal. Um that has a trail
1:12:53 head on the east side of Squawk has so
1:12:55 many so much more community work that
1:12:58 needs to be done. It's not ready. It's
1:13:01 not it's not fully baked whereas the
1:13:04 Kcari way parcels are are begging to be
1:13:08 a new trail corridor and just like
1:13:10 Bergsbay is. So the other idea is Cougar
1:13:13 Mountain, right? We purchased Bergsba,
1:13:15 but actually let's develop the trails.
1:13:17 Let's let's let the the um um um our our
1:13:24 parking garage here with Sound Transit
1:13:26 become a trail head um as people can get
1:13:29 up into into Cougar Mountain. So, that's
1:13:31 the other trail corridor that could be
1:13:33 an opportunity with this with this
1:13:35 project.
1:13:39 lots of need, lots of ideas. Um I love
1:13:42 the idea of 16 to $18 million. it
1:13:47 doesn't go far. What our our needs in
1:13:49 our park system are probably far greater
1:13:51 than that. Um um I think to echo what
1:13:54 the mayor said, I think this is an
1:13:56 opportunity to try and present a package
1:13:57 that's pragmatic and practical um
1:14:01 demonstrates
1:14:03 taking care of what we got and and sort
1:14:06 of improving um the function and
1:14:10 capacity.
1:14:12 Yeah.
1:14:17 So every discussion absolutely
1:14:21 robust discussions tonight and with
1:14:23 that.
1:14:27 >> Yeah,
1:14:28 >> we're good.
1:14:28 >> We're good.
1:14:30 >> We'll move on to our bullet point C
1:14:32 here. Park rules and regulations
1:14:35 presented by Dale Mark.
1:14:37 >> You saved the best for last.
1:14:39 >> The most exciting on the list, rules and
1:14:42 rags. Yeah.
1:14:43 >> Jeeoff, do you want to say a few words
1:14:44 before I jump in?
1:14:45 >> Yeah. No, thank you, Dale. Um, so I had
1:14:48 the chance I know at our at our last
1:14:50 meeting, I think I mentioned that the
1:14:52 following night I was presenting to the
1:14:54 city council services, safety, and parks
1:14:57 committee, kicking off the this
1:14:59 discussion and saying, "Hey, we're going
1:15:00 to come back." Um, thank you, Dale. Mark
1:15:03 Crimp who's with the exe uh
1:15:05 administration office, the city
1:15:06 administration office is going to be
1:15:08 helping us uh in this in this work which
1:15:10 is uh uh really really exciting. Um I I
1:15:14 I would introduce this by saying um city
1:15:18 council was very encouraged and and
1:15:20 appreciated hearing that uh we're ready
1:15:22 to to take this on. And what this is is
1:15:26 um park rules are really really
1:15:29 important um and and having a more
1:15:33 thorough um all-inclusive
1:15:36 list of park rules within the city code
1:15:40 um is a really really good important
1:15:42 management practice uh because it it
1:15:46 helps us as the stewards and the
1:15:48 managers of those parks uh to make sure
1:15:50 those parks are welcoming and they're
1:15:52 safe. Um and and those that are using
1:15:56 the park understand what you can and
1:15:58 can't do uh within within the parks. Um
1:16:01 one of the public comments you'll see I
1:16:03 I want to touch on that. Um this this
1:16:05 endeavor this work we're doing is really
1:16:08 focused on park rules. There's already a
1:16:12 lot of
1:16:13 regulatory language within the city code
1:16:16 that talk about parks and what we can
1:16:18 and can't do and how we need to develop.
1:16:20 Um, if you the the development code
1:16:23 speaks um at at at length in terms of
1:16:27 what we can or can't do as we develop or
1:16:29 do capital projects within our within
1:16:32 our park system. We're not trying to
1:16:33 update that. We're really the the the
1:16:36 scope of this work is um we have a very
1:16:40 small sample of park rules that are in
1:16:42 our city code that were put in in 1985
1:16:45 and a couple more put in in the '9s. um
1:16:49 um they're very deficient. Um there's a
1:16:52 lot of current practices and and current
1:16:55 things. Um the use of drones, um ebikes
1:17:00 and e- scooters. Um there's so many new
1:17:03 uses uh within our park system that our
1:17:06 our city code is silent about right now
1:17:08 and and we think it's time to to change
1:17:11 that. So Dale, thank you.
1:17:14 >> Great. Yeah, excited to be here with you
1:17:16 all tonight. So, my name's been thrown
1:17:18 around a few times now. Dale Murky
1:17:20 Crimp. I work in the mayor's office. Um,
1:17:23 on all sorts of things. It kind of
1:17:25 depends on the month. Uh, I'm currently
1:17:29 finishing up a stint over managing our
1:17:32 municipal fleet. Um, which is not I was
1:17:36 was mentioned this morning as the first
1:17:37 time my father has been truly proud of
1:17:39 work that I've done. the idea that I was
1:17:42 there supporting the mechanics with all
1:17:43 of our our vehicles. Um, rules and
1:17:47 regulations and city code is a place
1:17:48 where I'm much more comfortable. So, I'm
1:17:50 excited to be with you all tonight to
1:17:52 talk a bit about this project and and
1:17:54 the purpose of our next 30 minutes is
1:17:56 twofold. One is to get your feedback on
1:17:59 the overarching plan which is to update
1:18:02 and consolidate park rules and
1:18:04 regulations from all the little place
1:18:06 they places they are in our current
1:18:08 municipal code into a single chapter and
1:18:11 then also to gather your initial
1:18:14 thoughts on key rules or topic areas.
1:18:17 This will be the first of multiple uh
1:18:19 visits to this board about this project.
1:18:22 Uh, so if you leave at the end of this
1:18:24 evening being like, gosh, I forgot. I
1:18:28 wish I we I had said we need to make
1:18:30 sure we've got drones at the top of the
1:18:32 list to use an example. We will have
1:18:34 more opportunities for that. Um, I
1:18:35 recognize the hour of the day. Um, and
1:18:38 so maybe some of those topics and and
1:18:41 opinions might come back at an earlier
1:18:43 hour for each of you.
1:18:46 Three questions tonight. These are long
1:18:47 and wordy and I'm going to shorten them
1:18:49 a little bit. Do you agree with the
1:18:51 general direction? So, do you agree with
1:18:53 the idea that we should consolidate and
1:18:55 update and clarify park rules in a
1:18:58 single chapter?
1:19:00 Second question is what topic areas do
1:19:02 you think are going to be the most high
1:19:03 interest and where do you already maybe
1:19:05 have some emerging policy perspectives?
1:19:08 And then the last is as we endeavor on
1:19:12 broader public engagement, do you have
1:19:14 any opinions at this stage in the game
1:19:17 about how we might pursue broader
1:19:19 community input on these park rules and
1:19:23 regulations?
1:19:25 We're going to start with this first
1:19:26 question, which is do you agree um with
1:19:29 the general direction we're proposing,
1:19:31 which is to consolidate, update, and
1:19:33 clarify park rules in a single chapter.
1:19:35 I'm already seeing nods, but I will
1:19:37 briefly give you a little bit um from
1:19:39 the staff report and then I'll pause to
1:19:42 get thoughts.
1:19:43 So, a little bit of background on this.
1:19:45 Um and Jeff actually went through much
1:19:48 of this, so I'll kind of skim quickly.
1:19:50 Um, right now our park rules, the ones
1:19:53 that exist, are sprinkled throughout a
1:19:56 number of different chapters in the
1:19:57 Isquaman municipal code, which means
1:19:59 that if you're a user of our park system
1:20:02 and you want to know a rule, it's hard
1:20:04 to find the answer to can you do this or
1:20:07 not do this? Um, how can I apply for a
1:20:10 permit to you a park at a for a special
1:20:13 event? That information doesn't live in
1:20:15 one single place. It lives dotted
1:20:17 throughout.
1:20:19 hasn't been updated in a long time, in
1:20:23 some cases before I was born. Um,
1:20:26 whenever something is older than me, I
1:20:29 wonder if it maybe needs to be updated.
1:20:33 And we're also, as you saw in the
1:20:35 materials, there are places where our
1:20:36 park rules are just not complete. Not
1:20:38 only are they not complete for some of
1:20:39 the current and emerging uses we're
1:20:41 seeing in our parks, trails, and open
1:20:42 space, um, but may not even be complete
1:20:45 by stuff that is already happening in
1:20:47 those spaces.
1:20:49 I just touched on the next one. And then
1:20:51 also the current way that our our park
1:20:55 rules and regulations are written make
1:20:57 it really difficult to address and um
1:21:00 enforce any sort of issues in parks. Who
1:21:03 who who are the enforcers and what
1:21:07 process by which um can they determine
1:21:09 what needs to be enforced and how? So,
1:21:12 we've got an opportunity
1:21:14 which is to provide a more complete set
1:21:16 of rules in a centralized singular place
1:21:20 that will support our parks in remaining
1:21:21 safe, welcoming, clean, um, and also
1:21:24 help in outline how emergent issues will
1:21:29 be dealt with, sort of providing a
1:21:30 framework, so to speak, um, for things
1:21:32 that we may not be able to anticipate,
1:21:34 but we can put a framework in place for
1:21:36 how we would anticipate them as they
1:21:38 come up. Um and also an opportunity at
1:21:41 this point to think about uh how
1:21:43 responsibility is shared between the
1:21:46 number of different uh city departments
1:21:48 and divisions that do have a stake in
1:21:52 our parks, trails, and open spaces. And
1:21:54 of course the opportunity as always to
1:21:56 engage with you all and our broader
1:21:57 community as we develop these rules and
1:22:00 this framework.
1:22:02 I shared as part of the staff um
1:22:05 materials for this evening. One of the
1:22:07 attachments was uh the newly adopted uh
1:22:11 city of Redmond chapter on parks. Also
1:22:14 hot off the press I would say probably
1:22:16 in like maybe a month. The city of
1:22:18 Kirkland will also have a new
1:22:20 consolidated updated uh rules and
1:22:23 regulations chapter in their code. we
1:22:25 happen to know the person working on
1:22:27 that project and so we can also look at
1:22:30 what they've been working on too in a
1:22:31 future meeting. But you'll notice
1:22:33 they've just done this work and so it's
1:22:35 really nice to have a neighbor that's
1:22:36 recently gone through a similar process
1:22:38 because we're able to learn about you
1:22:40 know how might you have gone about
1:22:42 updating this and what might we want to
1:22:43 take from that process that we would
1:22:45 find valuable for ourselves.
1:22:47 >> So trademarking in the public sector
1:22:49 >> absolutely not there's a lot of
1:22:51 borrowing and a lot of stealing
1:22:52 especially when it comes to code. So
1:22:54 Redmond just recently went through this
1:22:56 process of consolidating into a single
1:22:58 park rules chapter. You'll notice
1:23:00 there's a there was a dedicated
1:23:02 definition section. Um I found that to
1:23:05 be very helpful. Um they also outlined a
1:23:09 rulemaking section. Um and an
1:23:12 enforcement methods section which I
1:23:14 thought was really elucidating in a way
1:23:16 that I had not seen in other code as I
1:23:18 looked at other neighboring
1:23:19 jurisdictions.
1:23:21 probably what everyone noticed as you
1:23:22 look through it were the specific um you
1:23:26 don't want to call them the whole thing
1:23:27 is a chapter but the specific sub uh
1:23:30 headings on on particular behaviors. Um
1:23:33 so really clearly walking through
1:23:36 fireworks, weapons, tobacco, controlled
1:23:38 substances, naming those pretty
1:23:40 explicitly and then having um rules and
1:23:43 regulations under each of those known
1:23:45 behaviors. And then also they did and we
1:23:47 can talk about whether we would want to
1:23:49 they uh integrated the permitting
1:23:51 process for special use permits into
1:23:53 this chapter as well which is a little
1:23:55 different than a lot of other um
1:23:57 jurisdictions.
1:23:58 >> So that would be special events
1:24:00 community groups that want Yeah.
1:24:03 >> need space for special event. Yep.
1:24:05 >> Yep. So a very high level comparison.
1:24:08 And you saw a more in-depth analysis in
1:24:10 attachment B in the staff report for
1:24:13 tonight. But um as Jeff mentioned, we
1:24:16 are really strong and we're not touching
1:24:18 our commitment to open space acquisition
1:24:20 and development and our clarity around
1:24:22 funding and design around parks and open
1:24:24 space. We kill it at that. That is like
1:24:27 a place that we shine and that other
1:24:29 jurisdictions look at our code to
1:24:30 understand how to do that. Redmond is is
1:24:34 in my humble opinion as a non non-p
1:24:37 parks personal a parks lover but not a
1:24:40 not an experienced park code person
1:24:43 they're kind of winning at at what we're
1:24:45 trying to talk about tonight which is
1:24:47 rules and rags on behaviors activities
1:24:50 and how to enforce that. So, it just
1:24:52 feels like there is clear governance.
1:24:54 There's clear public facing park rules.
1:24:57 It's also worth a look. I did not
1:24:59 reference this in my materials. They
1:25:01 have a really clear web page also where
1:25:04 they don't just have the chapter, but
1:25:05 they actually have it written out in a
1:25:07 much clearer way that accompanies their
1:25:09 update. Um, it treats perks as a sort of
1:25:13 system
1:25:14 rather than a singular place. um and it
1:25:18 treats it as something within but of its
1:25:21 own entity that is not simply the city.
1:25:24 They've got a stronger trail protection
1:25:26 position in their uh rules. We really
1:25:29 don't touch on our trails currently at
1:25:32 all um in what we have written.
1:25:34 >> A lot missing.
1:25:35 >> Yes. And then a lot of future proofing.
1:25:37 So really a way to think about a
1:25:39 framework for addressing emergent issues
1:25:40 as they come up which our code doesn't
1:25:43 currently have.
1:25:45 So, I guess my my I'll go back to my
1:25:48 initial question. You know, we're
1:25:50 proposing moving to a model like Redmond
1:25:53 has for its rules and regulations. So,
1:25:55 moving to a consolidated, updated,
1:25:58 clarified park rules and regulations
1:26:01 chapter within the Isqua Municipal Code.
1:26:03 And my first question of the night is,
1:26:05 does the board agree that that's the
1:26:06 right direction? Um, or do you believe
1:26:08 we should stay status quo?
1:26:12 It's a lot of hot air for me for an
1:26:14 absolutely but I'll make the next part a
1:26:16 little bit faster. Okay, this is the fun
1:26:19 part I think personally which is this
1:26:21 next question is what topic areas do you
1:26:23 believe are going to be the most high
1:26:25 interest for the community and do you
1:26:28 have emerging policy perspectives on
1:26:31 some of the positions that you think the
1:26:33 city might take on some of these topics?
1:26:35 I'm going to reiterate this is a first
1:26:38 conversation about this. So, we're going
1:26:40 to come back to this list and talk about
1:26:43 policy positions. When we come back, we
1:26:45 will likely have a proposed position
1:26:48 that that we'll then want feedback on,
1:26:49 but wanted to seek your input here at
1:26:52 the outset.
1:26:54 So, some types of rules to consider. Um,
1:26:57 I've got I think two slides on this and
1:26:59 so I'll walk through these and I'll kind
1:27:01 of say, okay, what these are some of the
1:27:03 things that we're already thinking we
1:27:05 definitely want in here. My initial
1:27:07 question is which of these do you think
1:27:09 are going to be of the most
1:27:11 contentious interest to the community
1:27:14 and or do you already have some opinions
1:27:17 about the policy position on any of
1:27:19 these uh these topics here and then
1:27:22 we'll go to the second slide.
1:27:41 I already know one but I you know
1:27:45 >> fireworks firearms and
1:27:50 >> thoughts Martha. Well, I think
1:27:54 I think your safety you would feel safe.
1:27:57 You saw
1:28:00 where you join in with your family or
1:28:05 >> might
1:28:12 filters camp.
1:28:16 how we help find appropriate locations
1:28:20 for um you know some of our unhomed
1:28:23 populations, but also just people coming
1:28:26 through or maybe really appreciating our
1:28:28 open spaces,
1:28:30 you want that to be appropriate.
1:28:32 >> Yeah.
1:28:40 as you all think about trail use and I
1:28:42 think as you see the the the
1:28:46 work developing trail use also includes
1:28:52 could include speed and how how do we
1:28:56 understand there's such a diversity of
1:28:59 use on our trails? Do we consider um
1:29:02 identifying a a speed limit? Because
1:29:04 often some of the biggest conflicts on
1:29:06 trails is conflicts of speed. Um,
1:29:11 so that will be that that will be a
1:29:14 conversation that I think we'll we'll
1:29:16 want to, you know, dive into in earnest
1:29:20 and really think through the the pros
1:29:22 and cons of certain approaches.
1:29:26 >> I think the animals and pets y
1:29:28 >> it's going to be du and really it's
1:29:31 bigger thing is where demand is out is
1:29:34 outstripping available resources. Yeah.
1:29:37 You got thousands of pet owners
1:29:40 looking for places to go and we're going
1:29:42 to have one in a month.
1:29:44 >> But uh you know there's
1:29:47 drive by Tibbit.
1:29:48 >> Absolutely.
1:29:49 >> When you see, you know, people need a
1:29:51 place and that's where they go.
1:29:52 >> Yeah.
1:29:55 >> Yep. That was the one
1:29:57 that was the one I was like that's gonna
1:30:00 >> Yep.
1:30:02 always
1:30:03 >> other thoughts on this set and then I'll
1:30:05 go to the next slide and then I've got
1:30:06 like a what are we missing? That's my
1:30:08 question.
1:30:13 >> Okay, what about this slide? We've got
1:30:15 amplified music, park hour, well park
1:30:17 hours, interference with parker trail
1:30:21 use, damage to wildlife property,
1:30:23 building fires, dumping, solicitation,
1:30:27 tobacco, alcohol, other controlled
1:30:29 substances.
1:30:30 any of these that you think will be of
1:30:32 particular community will there will be
1:30:34 a lot of opinion or that you already
1:30:37 have an emerging policy position you'd
1:30:39 like us to think about
1:30:41 >> being fired you know along 900 you still
1:30:44 have um people burning trash maybe
1:30:48 >> um
1:31:02 in an emerging conversation that we're
1:31:04 going to have. So now a lot of our
1:31:06 neighboring cities have become tobaccof
1:31:08 free parks.
1:31:10 >> We haven't had that conversation yet as
1:31:13 a community, but this will be the
1:31:14 opportunity for us to to consider that.
1:31:17 Do we want to join our
1:31:20 many neighboring cities? Um
1:31:24 tobacco tobaccof free park position.
1:31:36 Are there any behaviors or topics
1:31:38 missing currently that from your
1:31:41 perspective? I know we think that there
1:31:43 might be a few in my deeper read of
1:31:45 Redmond's um and actually my pre-eread
1:31:47 of Kirkland's I have some other ideas
1:31:49 but from your all's perspective
1:31:52 on these two slides any behaviors or
1:31:54 topics that were that are missing our
1:31:56 consideration.
1:32:05 Absolutely.
1:32:08 There we go.
1:32:12 and they framed it as contentious or
1:32:14 what most the committee will have the
1:32:16 most say on but I just feel like they're
1:32:18 all good rules to consider both pages
1:32:22 >> they're all good things to consider
1:32:24 >> so
1:32:26 I know some will be less
1:32:30 >> the only one is animals and pets maybe
1:32:32 just like you know Tibet park is
1:32:34 basically dog park
1:32:37 >> so I don't know how
1:32:40 going.
1:32:45 >> What's that?
1:32:46 >> What's wrong with that?
1:32:48 >> I mean, that's good.
1:32:51 >> Yeah.
1:32:55 >> Yep.
1:32:57 >> You know, you take a look at Ranger
1:32:58 Alex's data and I thought he spent he
1:33:01 was spending a lot of time talking to
1:33:03 people at Tibbitz.
1:33:05 >> So, how long has Redmond had their um
1:33:08 new rules?
1:33:09 They they did this uh just before the
1:33:14 pandemic.
1:33:14 >> Yeah.
1:33:15 >> I want to say 2018 or 2019.
1:33:18 >> So they've had it for a while now.
1:33:19 >> So any um lessons learned, any feedback,
1:33:24 anything that they might, you know,
1:33:28 >> report after consolidating their rules.
1:33:30 >> Yeah, I think worth worth more
1:33:32 conversation with them. The anecdotal
1:33:34 conversations I've had with their
1:33:36 director, uh it's been very very
1:33:38 positive.
1:33:40 >> so we wish we did this or wish we didn't
1:33:42 do that.
1:33:44 >> Yeah. Yeah. Nothing. I think they've
1:33:47 made a few modifications between now and
1:33:49 2018, but that's expected,
1:33:51 >> right? I think that's another I think as
1:33:54 we do this and I think it's part of the
1:33:57 forward thinking that Dale mentioned is
1:33:59 we want to create a um a standard a
1:34:03 cadence that says we probably shouldn't
1:34:06 we should be touching this every couple
1:34:08 years not waiting every 20 years
1:34:12 >> to
1:34:14 that'll be I think is a great question
1:34:16 for us and something we can dive a
1:34:18 little deeper into in terms of if if
1:34:20 that's a if Again, that's a template
1:34:23 that we want to sort of build our frame
1:34:27 our rules around. Um certainly asking
1:34:30 them what what's worked well, what would
1:34:32 you do do different? Um if anything Yep.
1:34:36 >> I know in talking to Kirkland um as
1:34:39 they're working on theirs right now, one
1:34:40 of the things that came up that they've
1:34:43 really that they learned from Redmond
1:34:45 that they wanted to have was this idea
1:34:47 of a framework for decision- making.
1:34:52 rather than moving away from language
1:34:54 that really is like very very specific,
1:34:57 there's more um assignment of like
1:35:00 decision-making and ownership. So
1:35:02 there's a process for anything. So any
1:35:04 exception that comes up rather than just
1:35:05 saying this can never happen, there's a
1:35:08 process for getting things approved or
1:35:10 things exempted which didn't exist in
1:35:13 their code previously. It doesn't exist
1:35:14 in ours right now.
1:35:17 >> think vandalism and graffiti is that
1:35:19 covered in their something
1:35:22 >> probably worth but worth
1:35:24 >> yeah it's in there's a damage I think
1:35:27 it's yeah the bullet yeah pertaining to
1:35:30 to damage would certainly fall under
1:35:36 >> also under damage would be encroachment
1:35:40 >> right where we have a maybe an ambitious
1:35:42 neighbor to one of our pieces of open
1:35:44 space that stretches their friend their
1:35:47 their backyard fence and creates a
1:35:49 little bit more backyard onto onto
1:35:51 public land. We'll we'll want some
1:35:53 rules. They're really clear about what
1:35:56 happens in those cases because there are
1:35:59 there are a number of people that do
1:36:01 that.
1:36:09 >> Again, trying to be the best steward we
1:36:11 can, the best manager of of your your
1:36:14 all public land, right? 40,000 people
1:36:17 who own all this public land. You want
1:36:19 rules and regulations that are clear um
1:36:25 to manage it well.
1:36:28 >> Yeah. You look like you have a
1:36:30 >> No, I think it falls under damage. We
1:36:32 think a lot about trees recently. We're
1:36:34 dealing with trees at
1:36:35 >> Yeah.
1:36:36 >> Um so damage goes both ways, right? Like
1:36:38 if our if the park tree falls on
1:36:41 residential or vice versa,
1:36:44 >> that's covered.
1:36:48 >> Yeah. and not necessarily in park rules,
1:36:50 but it's it's covered in terms of risk
1:36:53 and other areas of the city code. Um
1:36:57 >> yeah. Yeah. And we've had a lot of
1:37:00 practice in that the last couple of
1:37:01 years with
1:37:03 >> bomb cyclone and other and other cases
1:37:05 where um
1:37:07 >> yeah, trees trees fall multiple ways,
1:37:10 right? They fall from our public
1:37:12 property onto private property. They
1:37:14 fall from private property onto our
1:37:15 public property, etc.
1:37:18 Yeah, I really think about this as is
1:37:21 different from that in that it's like
1:37:23 the who are the actors, the people are
1:37:25 the actors here.
1:37:26 >> Okay.
1:37:28 >> Y got it.
1:37:31 >> Not mother nature.
1:37:32 >> Got it.
1:37:33 >> Acts of God, right?
1:37:35 >> Yeah. She she supersedes this chapter of
1:37:38 our code, unfortunately.
1:37:39 >> Okay. You're not going to make rules for
1:37:41 >> Yeah.
1:37:47 cities that have tried have not been
1:37:49 successful.
1:37:49 >> No.
1:37:51 >> Is there anything that
1:37:54 would be covered in this or maybe is
1:37:55 somewhere else in somewhere in the city
1:37:56 say that pertains to engaging in water
1:38:02 on property. So if there's a stream or a
1:38:05 creek going through the park, how the
1:38:08 person can engage with that or not or is
1:38:12 >> Yes. So that the idea is swimming swim
1:38:14 through there. You saw one of the
1:38:16 bullets about swimming is we need to be
1:38:18 really clear where you can engage with
1:38:21 water and where you can't. And Isqua
1:38:24 Creek is not a
1:38:26 >> beach that is not a swimming pool.
1:38:31 >> Is that what you're thinking of? You
1:38:33 could
1:38:36 >> Yeah.
1:38:37 It just through like Bernstein and on
1:38:40 the other side of Bern
1:38:44 people fishing. I know it's kind of
1:38:46 fishing people fishing.
1:38:57 >> Okay. If you if you go to bed tonight
1:38:59 and your head lays down on your pillow
1:39:00 and think of something,
1:39:02 >> email me. Um, the last thing I want to
1:39:07 brooach the topic of, but again, you'll
1:39:09 notice on my my bullet point in the
1:39:11 presentation, very limited thoughts so
1:39:13 far. Um, what if any thoughts do you
1:39:15 have about our overarching approach to
1:39:18 broader input outside of the bo the
1:39:20 board? We know that we want to have a
1:39:23 survey. Um, we want to have it
1:39:26 accessible at all of our key park,
1:39:27 trail, recreation locations via QR code.
1:39:30 Um, you know, this is happening
1:39:34 The current timeline, which I'm sure you
1:39:36 saw on the last slide, is is to bring
1:39:38 these rules back um to the the services,
1:39:42 safety, and parks committee in June,
1:39:44 July. So, you know, where I like to
1:39:46 think about doing a lot of my surveying
1:39:48 during the summer is at the farmers
1:39:50 market, but we're on a timeline to try
1:39:52 to do some of of good, if not almost all
1:39:54 of this prior to that. And so I wanted
1:39:57 to solicit thoughts or ideas about
1:40:02 additional ways to engage in public
1:40:03 outreach around this code um code update
1:40:08 process or thoughts specifically on how
1:40:11 we might um
1:40:14 market's not the word I want share the
1:40:16 survey broadly with
1:40:20 well our meeting today and I think
1:40:26 I know invited the mayor to our meeting
1:40:31 >> that's one place and I know it's not
1:40:33 everybody it's just a small amount of
1:40:36 you know cluster of homes if you will in
1:40:37 a neighborhood that's certainly
1:40:39 >> we live very close to you the woods
1:40:44 >> yeah I mean broadly ho yeah that's a
1:40:46 great idea
1:40:50 >> yep
1:40:50 >> I think next door lot the neighbors have
1:40:53 that app
1:41:02 >> and are we considering like you know you
1:41:03 do the word on a street is there places
1:41:06 you could put um that at some of the
1:41:09 detail
1:41:09 >> yeah so this idea of the QR code much
1:41:11 like we've done with some recent surveys
1:41:14 we've done the last couple years if you
1:41:16 recall is getting some signs and putting
1:41:18 those all on your trail and trail heads
1:41:21 and multiple parks and giving people a
1:41:24 chance to just open up the hey come, you
1:41:26 know, take a look at our draft park
1:41:28 rules and regulations and give us your
1:41:30 thoughts.
1:41:31 >> Yeah.
1:41:38 >> Yes.
1:41:46 >> That's what we want to hear from, right?
1:41:47 is is those that are using the parks and
1:41:50 does this did you know
1:41:52 >> does what we're creating resonate
1:41:55 >> does this help make this a safer
1:41:56 welcoming park system
1:42:00 >> I think those types of feedbacks too as
1:42:02 you get there regardless of the trails
1:42:04 that are
1:42:06 you talk about speed a little bit trails
1:42:08 that are a heavy bike a heavy person
1:42:10 walking trail
1:42:12 >> as if one of those survey questions in
1:42:14 there has to do with that type of stuff
1:42:21 Yeah.
1:42:22 >> Yeah.
1:42:22 >> Yep.
1:42:27 Recently there was an ebike ordinance
1:42:29 that was approved and so part of this
1:42:32 work is going to be making sure our
1:42:35 rules and regulations
1:42:37 um are complimentary to that new ebike
1:42:39 ordinance and and um
1:42:43 and not just speak to it but um you know
1:42:47 elaborate on and and again this idea of
1:42:50 future thinking. Um,
1:42:53 we shouldn't be just thinking about
1:42:55 ebikes because there's e- scooters and
1:42:58 there's e uniballs and there's e
1:43:02 whatever the next I don't even know what
1:43:03 those are called but I think you know
1:43:04 what I'm talking about
1:43:06 >> there there will be another five year
1:43:09 two years from now a year from now
1:43:10 there'll be the next
1:43:12 e personal vehicle right so let let's um
1:43:18 let's think broadly um and again not
1:43:21 rewrite the ebike ordinance that was
1:43:23 just done, but how are we complementing
1:43:25 it and think addressing a a broader set
1:43:28 of e vehicles?
1:43:31 >> Yeah. Are we going to let those
1:43:33 autonomous food delivery robots be on
1:43:35 our trails?
1:43:36 >> You know, that's a, you know, we can
1:43:38 create a framework for making those
1:43:41 decisions
1:43:42 >> in the future.
1:43:43 >> So, a little bit about where this is
1:43:45 headed, though I feel like I've
1:43:46 referenced this throughout, but always
1:43:48 good to look at. Um, I'll be back. Jeff
1:43:52 will be back. Jeff is here all the time,
1:43:53 but I'll be back. Um, the goal
1:43:56 >> stuck with me.
1:43:57 >> Yeah, they're stuck with you. Um, the
1:43:59 goal is to come back with some draft
1:44:01 language. Um, and then in April to get
1:44:05 public input via the survey. Um, we'll
1:44:08 make sure to bring a draft of that
1:44:10 survey to this group to take a look at
1:44:12 before it goes live. So, I'll be here in
1:44:14 March. Um the goal is to have in May a
1:44:18 draft updated park rules chapter for you
1:44:20 all to uh finalize your recommendation
1:44:24 on so that it can then go to the city
1:44:27 council in in June back to the committee
1:44:30 and then hopefully in July to the full
1:44:32 council. Um and so that's the high level
1:44:36 direction we're headed. Any
1:44:39 lingering thoughts?
1:44:45 It was a delight. I'll see you all next
1:44:47 month.
1:44:48 >> You know, big big thank you, you know,
1:44:50 for for helping in this effort. Um,
1:44:52 you'll be a great a great partner in
1:44:54 this work. Um, like I said, it was a
1:44:56 very engaging conversation with council
1:44:58 to kick off and thank you all. This is
1:45:02 be some really really important work um
1:45:04 that you all are going to do and
1:45:07 will have some lasting lasting benefit.
1:45:11 >> Thanks.
1:45:13 >> Excellent. Thank you. Thank you again.
1:45:18 we can move on to our next scheduled
1:45:21 business here which is reports.
1:45:25 Maybe since it's your Nick your second
1:45:28 meeting with us, is there anything that
1:45:30 you'd like to bring up in this meeting?
1:45:33 Um yeah, I mean I could just briefly uh
1:45:37 the work I've been doing with uh Robin
1:45:39 which is making the trail standards um
1:45:43 or in most of the trails that we for
1:45:47 this booklet that we're uh compiling um
1:45:50 is that
1:45:52 uh I started or me and Robin kind of
1:45:55 split touring some of the parks. Um, so
1:45:59 just last week I went to K once and took
1:46:03 some pictures um just to kind of so then
1:46:07 in the booklet we can kind of have
1:46:08 examples of existing trails
1:46:12 that all match in standards. Um, yeah,
1:46:15 that's kind of neat work that we have
1:46:17 been doing recently.
1:46:24 >> Thank you.
1:46:29 Do you have anything you'd like to
1:46:30 report for? Uh,
1:46:32 >> couple things. First, and I'm gonna I'm
1:46:34 gonna pass the ball to Robin. Dog park
1:46:36 update. Robin, do you want to give
1:46:38 >> update? Yeah, it's coming along really
1:46:40 well. We have um some rough weather
1:46:43 coming in. All the forms are ready to
1:46:45 pour concrete. We just decided to hold
1:46:47 off one more week. Uh, next week looks a
1:46:50 lot better, but then the plaza areas
1:46:53 will be set. They're working on fence
1:46:55 line and the post right now. So, it's
1:46:57 coming together. Hopefully, next week
1:46:59 after concrete, then they're going to be
1:47:00 shooting in all the fiber, all the
1:47:02 mulch.
1:47:03 >> So, then Yeah. And then planting. So,
1:47:06 >> all the utilities are done.
1:47:07 >> All the utilities are done. Everything's
1:47:09 passed so far. So, it's looking really
1:47:11 good. We placed uh did shelter locations
1:47:14 today. So, those are set. They can take
1:47:16 footing for those tomorrow. So, we're
1:47:19 getting excited. If the weather would
1:47:21 just cooperate,
1:47:23 we'd be flying. So,
1:47:25 >> Dana, I know you've visited multiple
1:47:27 times as that's a regular route, but if
1:47:29 you're down on the Rainer Trail, please
1:47:30 walk by and and take a look. It's it's
1:47:33 really starting to take shape, and I I
1:47:34 think some of the feedback we're hearing
1:47:37 is wow, it's it's a bigger off leash
1:47:39 area than people could sort of visually
1:47:43 think. So, um lot of excitement. Robin,
1:47:46 great work.
1:47:52 And I have one other update. Thanks,
1:47:54 Ryan. Um, our department operations
1:47:56 specialist position, um, I've had a
1:48:00 fantastic interview process, a really,
1:48:02 really impressive pool of candidates.
1:48:04 Um, a couple weeks ago, thanks again,
1:48:07 Stacy. Couple weeks ago, um, made an
1:48:11 offer. Uh, that offer was accepted. Um
1:48:14 Laura Hos will be starting uh next
1:48:17 Monday, March the 2nd. Uh really really
1:48:20 excited. So for our March meeting, uh
1:48:23 Laura will be here uh to meet all of you
1:48:26 and and start to get an idea of what
1:48:28 Park Board's all about. So be extra
1:48:30 nice. No, just just kidding.
1:48:34 >> Great. Um
1:48:37 Laura comes from the University of
1:48:38 Washington uh in the School of Public
1:48:42 Health. Uh support of the dean's office.
1:48:45 Uh did a lot of um oversight of
1:48:48 marketing and communications that came
1:48:50 out. So it brings just a a great I think
1:48:53 set of skills, a real excitement uh to
1:48:55 get into local government and so I um
1:48:59 really excited.
1:49:01 >> Thank you.
1:49:05 Um chairperson report I do not have much
1:49:08 data. I know there's some good uh bare
1:49:11 root uh plant potting events coming up.
1:49:15 If you're interested in uh uh those,
1:49:18 check out the squall website. But if you
1:49:20 want to help ball up some plants into
1:49:22 some pots so we can grow them into
1:49:24 further canopy
1:49:26 to increase our canopy, um check those
1:49:29 out. Um otherwise, it's as we come into
1:49:32 spring, I just encourage everybody to
1:49:33 get out and start enjoying more of the
1:49:35 open spaces and trails more. um as this
1:49:38 the days get longer it's been excellent
1:49:40 to see. So
1:49:42 >> do you want to add anything?
1:49:45 >> Is there any other business anyone would
1:49:46 like to uh flag? No. Okay.
1:49:51 >> So one more item, Ryan. Um again on your
1:49:55 agenda each month we have the sort of
1:49:57 working document of the parkboard work
1:49:59 plan. U I think as we bring back uh this
1:50:03 park bond renewal idea and have further
1:50:06 conversation about that. Um Rob and I
1:50:08 are also sort of looking at our work
1:50:10 plan and boy if that um really really
1:50:14 important effort um is added to our work
1:50:17 plan, you know, what um what needs to
1:50:21 give or what needs to adjust a little
1:50:23 bit to make sure that that that work um
1:50:26 is really given being given the time and
1:50:28 attention that it needs. So uh we'll
1:50:30 have a little bit more understanding as
1:50:32 we come to the March meeting for all of
1:50:34 you. But um again, thank you for just
1:50:37 your initial conversations with the
1:50:39 mayor. As you can tell, the mayor is
1:50:41 really excited. So, look forward to
1:50:44 furthering that conversation with all of
1:50:46 you. And please, um I said it before, um
1:50:49 between now and the March meeting, you
1:50:51 are free to talk to your neighbors, talk
1:50:54 to your groups, um your little league
1:50:58 groups or your uh whatever recreation
1:51:00 groups that you're part of, your trail
1:51:02 groups, etc. uh because I think it's
1:51:04 going to be really important to get a
1:51:05 pulse of the community. Is this is this
1:51:08 a renewal that the community would be
1:51:10 interested in?
1:51:12 >> So, thank you.
1:51:13 >> Thank you.
1:51:15 >> Um our next meeting is March 23rd.
1:51:20 So, just throw that on your calendars
1:51:21 and radars.
1:51:23 And that says no further business. This
1:51:25 meeting is a jerk.