Environmental Board · Wednesday, April 22, 2026 · City Council Digest

3. AGENDA ITEMS

Issaquah Climate Action Plan Review

Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager David Reedy, Sustainability Coordinator · packet pp.3–215

Topics: Climate

Previously discussed: Park Board · Feb 24, 2026 Transportation Advisory Board · Feb 25, 2026 Planning Policy Commission · Feb 26, 2026 Environmental Board · Mar 25, 2026

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Staff report:

Staff seek feedback from the Environmental Board on general content and major updates identified in the full draft of the 2026 ICAP. Updates identified below exclude changes to actions and targets already discussed by the Environmental Board at previous meetings.

Recognition of Outgoing Board Members

Don McQuilliams, Board Chair Alix Lee Tigner, Board Vice Chair

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5. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Future Changes to Environmental Board Rules and Regulations Vice Chair elections (future meeting) and date (future meeting)

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0:02 ↗ Should I go ahead or am I waiting for

0:04 ↗ you to tell me to go?

0:05 ↗ >> We'll do public comment in just a few

0:07 ↗ moments. I'm just getting the recording

0:08 ↗ started. I

0:09 ↗ >> I'm I'm just making sure I'm doing what

0:11 ↗ I'm supposed to do. So,

0:13 ↗ >> we'll do a call for public comment in

0:15 ↗ just a moment.

0:17 ↗ >> Thanks.

0:19 ↗ >> Good. Y

0:20 ↗ >> All right. Welcome everybody. This is

0:22 ↗ the Wednesday, April 22nd special

0:24 ↗ meeting of the environmental board. Um,

0:26 ↗ thank you for coming tonight. We

0:28 ↗ appreciate it.

0:29 ↗ Um, this is a hybrid meeting. So, some

0:31 ↗ of you in person, some of you are

0:32 ↗ online, the folks in person. If you have

0:34 ↗ a question, comment, tip your sign up,

0:36 ↗ please. I'll call you when I see you.

0:38 ↗ Um, for those of you online, put your

0:40 ↗ hand up, your remote hand up, and we'll

0:42 ↗ keep an eye out for you

0:44 ↗ to watch. Stacey, you want to call us

0:46 ↗ words?

0:48 ↗ >> Uh, Tom Anderson has an excused absence.

0:50 ↗ Nancy Davidson

0:52 ↗ >> here. Duba

0:55 ↗ Pandi has an excused absence. Kan P

0:59 ↗ >> here.

1:01 ↗ >> Mina June,

1:03 ↗ Don Mc Williams

1:04 ↗ >> here,

1:05 ↗ >> Alex Lee Tner

1:07 ↗ >> here.

1:09 ↗ >> Ann Nukem here. Keith Gonzalez has an

1:12 ↗ excused absence and John Smith

1:15 ↗ >> here.

1:16 ↗ >> And Ann and John will be sitting in as

1:18 ↗ regular members members.

1:22 ↗ And then I'll just also share we have um

1:24 ↗ Emma and Oliver from Gibson EC. Emma is

1:28 ↗ our interns and Oliver.

1:37 ↗ >> Very good. U next up we have public

1:39 ↗ comments. Um so we have three minutes or

1:42 ↗ five minutes?

1:43 ↗ >> Five minutes.

1:43 ↗ >> So five minutes per person. Um Steve, I

1:46 ↗ think your only public comment that I

1:48 ↗ see tonight.

1:50 ↗ >> Yeah. Sure.

1:52 ↗ >> How about we go Steve first?

1:55 ↗ >> Go for it, Steve.

1:57 ↗ >> So, this is Steve Pereira. I live in the

1:59 ↗ Oldtown neighborhood of Isa for 17

2:02 ↗ yearsish or so. And start as always by

2:06 ↗ saying thank you for your public

2:07 ↗ service. I send in some comments like

2:10 ↗ right about 6:30, so I'm not sure if

2:11 ↗ they've been distributed or read.

2:13 ↗ Probably not much before the meeting. I

2:15 ↗ apologize for that. Uh the kind of gist

2:18 ↗ of my meeting was to set the context uh

2:20 ↗ that there is precedent for the city

2:24 ↗ to implement standards that are higher,

2:28 ↗ more stringent or more restrictive than

2:30 ↗ what the either county or the state

2:33 ↗ submitted. Then I submitted an example

2:35 ↗ documenting the city council decision to

2:40 ↗ add is a quad municipal code 5.52

2:44 ↗ which

2:46 ↗ is geared around tenant protections

2:48 ↗ rental increasing the length of time

2:53 ↗ required to give advanced notice of rent

2:56 ↗ increases to to 120 days when greater

2:59 ↗ than 3%.

3:01 ↗ uh definitely ahead of the curve

3:05 ↗ uh

3:06 ↗ locally and

3:09 ↗ uh statewide level. So my point is just

3:11 ↗ whether you agree with it or not, there

3:12 ↗ is example precedent as you take up

3:15 ↗ tonight's topic of

3:17 ↗ uh code not code changes but changes

3:21 ↗ that are needed by all threshold or

3:23 ↗ manners. We don't seem to be meeting the

3:27 ↗ standards or outcomes of global warming

3:31 ↗ by either a percentage or a total

3:34 ↗ output. And unless we take serious

3:37 ↗ actions, it doesn't seem that we're

3:39 ↗ going to meet that threshold.

3:41 ↗ I believe the two largest factors

3:44 ↗ contributing to that are transportation

3:47 ↗ and building energy code development. So

3:52 ↗ while I don't recommend anything

3:53 ↗ specifically, I would I would certainly

3:55 ↗ look at uh requiring energy audits for

3:58 ↗ private sale

4:00 ↗ and I would also look at tighter code

4:04 ↗ energy and transportation

4:07 ↗ restrictions not apply not just to the

4:10 ↗ city of Isizquad jurisdiction but to the

4:14 ↗ uh citywide as well as continuing to

4:16 ↗ lobby the city with other jurisdictions

4:18 ↗ including the county, the state and

4:21 ↗ we're appropriate national levels for

4:24 ↗ those changes but we can't wait another

4:26 ↗ 5 years before we get ahead of the curb.

4:29 ↗ Um, so asking that you as a body do

4:34 ↗ discuss and consider

4:36 ↗ recommendations in some form, whether

4:38 ↗ it's by I don't know if I don't know if

4:40 ↗ you guys can do agenda bills or put

4:41 ↗ items on the agenda or to write a letter

4:44 ↗ to city council asking that these this

4:48 ↗ these topics please be dealt with sooner

4:51 ↗ rather than later.

4:54 ↗ Uh, I'll stop my rambling and ask that

4:56 ↗ somebody please take down my hand at

4:58 ↗ this point. Thank you all for your

5:00 ↗ service again and I appreciate the time.

5:03 ↗ >> Thank you, Steve. Appreciate it.

5:05 ↗ >> And Steve, just confirming we did

5:07 ↗ receive your comments as well, not right

5:09 ↗ before meetings.

5:11 ↗ >> Thank you for confirming.

5:14 ↗ >> I don't know if it went to us.

5:22 ↗ >> Thank you.

5:25 ↗ Okay. All right. Thank you.

5:29 ↗ Well, um, good evening and thank you for

5:30 ↗ the opportunity to speak here. Um, so

5:33 ↗ I'm I'm a resident and a community

5:35 ↗ member and I do plan to join the

5:38 ↗ environment board shortly and looking

5:40 ↗ forward to working with you all. Um, one

5:42 ↗ of the points that I want to find out,

5:44 ↗ this isn't a specific action but more an

5:47 ↗ observation, something that I'm really

5:50 ↗ would love to track for as we move

5:52 ↗ forward. Um, you know, as we move to the

5:54 ↗ next phase of the IAAP. Um, definitely

5:57 ↗ there's there'll be focus on faster,

6:00 ↗ speedier, you know, movement towards the

6:03 ↗ targets of the ICAP, especially as we

6:05 ↗ get aligned to 2030, which is an

6:07 ↗ important milestone coming up. And one

6:09 ↗ of them is definitely the one that I'm

6:12 ↗ interested in and watching for

6:13 ↗ interested in working with you all is um

6:16 ↗ the the gap between the emissions at the

6:19 ↗ moment between where we are now and the

6:20 ↗ 2030 targets. Um there is definitely a

6:23 ↗ big gap and of course it's better in the

6:25 ↗ room almost um but um um I would love to

6:31 ↗ you know as you wrap up the I gap I know

6:34 ↗ it's very close to wrapping up um are

6:37 ↗ there any deeper actions any any other

6:39 ↗ actions that can be included um I don't

6:42 ↗ have any specific thoughts on that but

6:44 ↗ definitely would love to challenge if we

6:46 ↗ um and um

6:49 ↗ as we move forward that's an area that

6:51 ↗ I' love to work with you on as well over

6:53 ↗ the next couple of years. So, I just

6:55 ↗ want to be

6:57 ↗ >> and thank you. Appreciate it.

7:06 ↗ Okay. On that, the focus of tonight's

7:08 ↗ meeting, pretty much the whole meeting

7:10 ↗ is going to be on the IAP review on the

7:12 ↗ climate action plan in detail. Stacy's

7:14 ↗ going to walk us through, Stacey and

7:16 ↗ David. And there's a printed copy here

7:19 ↗ if you want to see something in print.

7:21 ↗ It's also in your packet.

7:24 ↗ There's two printed copies if you look

7:25 ↗ at those and also zoom in. Do you want

7:28 ↗ questions as we go or do you want us to

7:30 ↗ wait till the end?

7:31 ↗ >> Um we framed it up kind of into three

7:34 ↗ main sections. So we'll go we'll provide

7:36 ↗ an overview of the kind of broad changes

7:40 ↗ and then take feedback and questions and

7:42 ↗ then the target feedback and questions

7:44 ↗ and implementation. Okay.

7:48 ↗ >> Yeah, feel free to interrupt it if

7:50 ↗ there's clarifying questions.

7:52 ↗ Um, and I did want to just acknowledge

7:54 ↗ to the Ann Pletcher sent in Brandon

7:57 ↗ comments.

8:00 ↗ >> Can we can I ask a question about Ann's

8:03 ↗ comments before you get too far into it?

8:05 ↗ One of the comments I thought she was ve

8:07 ↗ was very interesting that I thought

8:09 ↗ about was things that are too hard for

8:11 ↗ us to do right now. Kind of summarizing

8:14 ↗ those. Are they are they going to be in

8:16 ↗ your presentation tonight or is it

8:18 ↗ something we should I thought that was a

8:20 ↗ good thing to think about to just add

8:22 ↗ because things will change and this is a

8:24 ↗ 10-year plan and just noting that we

8:26 ↗ thought about these and they may have

8:28 ↗ been tough and just maybe having a

8:30 ↗ section. So is there anything like that

8:33 ↗ in this or in your presentation? And

8:35 ↗ >> there is currently. Yeah. And I think

8:37 ↗ some of that is through the discussions

8:40 ↗ that we had with um the council

8:42 ↗ committee and you all some of those kind

8:44 ↗ of big policy ideas that we um proposed

8:49 ↗ uh that it was decided wasn't feasible

8:51 ↗ for us to move those forward. So I think

8:53 ↗ absolutely that's something the board

8:55 ↗ can propose in this first section of

8:57 ↗ review content to add in the plan.

9:00 ↗ >> Yeah. just I thought that was an

9:01 ↗ interesting comment and I thought that

9:02 ↗ would be a nice thing to capture but we

9:05 ↗ can talk about that in the conversation

9:07 ↗ you know further on but

9:09 ↗ >> yeah that I love that so we know what it

9:11 ↗ is that we

9:12 ↗ >> thought about yeah and what the barriers

9:15 ↗ are barriers

9:18 ↗ >> something could happen

9:19 ↗ >> y absolutely great yeah I think that'll

9:22 ↗ be good for that first section when we

9:23 ↗ talk about major plan updates

9:25 ↗ >> okay thank you

9:27 ↗ >> Tom also sent us an email saying he

9:28 ↗ wasn't able to make it tonight but he

9:29 ↗ also have some concerns about the

9:31 ↗ 10-year plan.

9:32 ↗ >> Yes. Yeah, I'll note that. And um Keith

9:35 ↗ had a couple comments.

9:39 ↗ >> Great. All right.

9:44 ↗ >> Great. Um so tonight we're going to talk

9:46 ↗ through the um well, I guess first I

9:49 ↗ want to acknowledge this is the first

9:51 ↗ time you all are seeing the other

9:52 ↗ content beyond the actions and targets.

9:55 ↗ Um, so what you have is a full very uh

9:59 ↗ draft because it has not been formatted

10:02 ↗ although we've been working quite a bit

10:03 ↗ on the narrative and plan. So we're

10:06 ↗ calling it of a full draft minus that um

10:10 ↗ the design layout um etc. But we believe

10:13 ↗ this has the content that we want to

10:15 ↗ move forward um for review and approval.

10:19 ↗ Um so tonight we'll be talking through

10:21 ↗ the major plan updates just provide you

10:23 ↗ kind of a broad summary of um the

10:26 ↗ revisions we've made to the narrative

10:28 ↗ from the 2021 plan. Um we are looking

10:31 ↗ for feedback on those updates and then

10:34 ↗ we are also looking to the board to

10:35 ↗ determine um whether or not we're ready

10:38 ↗ to uh move forward with

10:44 ↗ um I have multiple slides of our

10:46 ↗ questions. This is kind of how we've

10:48 ↗ broken up the presentation. Um the first

10:52 ↗ set of questions will be around general

10:54 ↗ changes and feedback. Um and then we'll

10:57 ↗ move into implementation plan and then

10:58 ↗ approval process. Um so the first set of

11:02 ↗ questions we have are around feedback on

11:04 ↗ the narrative. Are there sections that

11:06 ↗ are missing? Additional content the

11:08 ↗ board wants to see added. Um and then

11:10 ↗ we'll dig a little bit into a couple of

11:12 ↗ the targets uh that have been updated as

11:15 ↗ well as a proposed revision to the

11:17 ↗ target.

11:19 ↗ Um the next set of questions will be on

11:21 ↗ the implementation section. So this is

11:24 ↗ the first time you've seen uh both the

11:26 ↗ narrative for the implementation section

11:28 ↗ as well as the plan. Uh that plan is the

11:32 ↗ uh attached spreadsheet that walks

11:34 ↗ through when actions are anticipated to

11:36 ↗ start anticipated cost uh lead partner

11:40 ↗ or department etc. Um so we'll be

11:43 ↗ seeking both feedback on the narrative

11:46 ↗ um as well as the work plan.

11:49 ↗ Um and then the third set of questions

11:52 ↗ is around our readiness to move forward.

11:55 ↗ Um, we are, and I'll talk through the

11:59 ↗ complexities and nuances in a bit, but

12:01 ↗ we're looking for at least a a tenative

12:03 ↗ thumbs up. This is headed in the right

12:05 ↗ direction tonight. Um, but recognizing

12:08 ↗ you are not seeing a formatted um plan.

12:12 ↗ Uh, the board may want to hold off on

12:14 ↗ that final.

12:18 ↗ So, those are the three buckets of

12:21 ↗ questions to the board.

12:25 ↗ Okay. Um so I will walk through some of

12:28 ↗ the major updates. Um

12:32 ↗ again this is pretty high level summary

12:35 ↗ um that we'll be going through that we

12:38 ↗ did include in the meeting packet

12:40 ↗ attachment D. Uh this is a document that

12:43 ↗ Emma, one of our interns has been

12:45 ↗ helping us out with quite a bit over the

12:47 ↗ last um nine months or so. Uh attachment

12:51 ↗ D is our comment tracker and change

12:53 ↗ tracker. So we've tried to document all

12:55 ↗ the feedback we've gotten from boards,

12:57 ↗ commissions, and members of the public.

12:59 ↗ And then we David and I also went

13:01 ↗ through and added kind of the major

13:02 ↗ changes that or revisions that we've

13:04 ↗ made to the plans, the 2021 version. Um

13:09 ↗ so again, that has that attachment D has

13:11 ↗ the details. I'm going to provide the

13:13 ↗ high level. Um so major plan updates,

13:16 ↗ we're planning to update the graphics.

13:18 ↗ There's a number of uh graphics that we

13:20 ↗ just have additional content from our

13:22 ↗ greenhouse gas inventory. For example,

13:25 ↗ um replace photos, add some more photos

13:27 ↗ um to help tell the story. Uh we've

13:30 ↗ removed the references to the 2021

13:33 ↗ process. So, if you all remember, there

13:35 ↗ was a number of climate convenings,

13:37 ↗ community discussions that really helped

13:39 ↗ build the 2021 plan. Um we feel like

13:42 ↗ that process is now documented in the

13:45 ↗ 2021 plan. Um and instead we want to

13:49 ↗ kind of look from 2021 forward.

13:53 ↗ Um similarly we removed a lot of the

13:55 ↗ background on the work the city and

13:58 ↗ community did to lead up to the 2021

14:01 ↗ plan. Um and instead we added a section

14:04 ↗ on achievement since the 2021 plan

14:06 ↗ adoption.

14:08 ↗ Um, kind of building from our neighbors,

14:11 ↗ we've added in a lot more language

14:13 ↗ around the importance of state regional

14:15 ↗ policies, EDS, electric transition, and

14:20 ↗ the reliance of the electrical grid. Um,

14:23 ↗ so tried to really emphasize that is

14:25 ↗ important

14:27 ↗ towards success of this plan. Um I did

14:31 ↗ want to just note uh Keith sent a note

14:33 ↗ just saying he supported

14:36 ↗ the language around.

14:39 ↗ Um other updates is um there's a section

14:43 ↗ on climate impacts. Um we added a few of

14:46 ↗ the major events that have unfolded

14:49 ↗ since 2021 such as the bomb cycle and

14:51 ↗ additional flooding. Um we have a new

14:54 ↗ section on measures. Um David presented

14:57 ↗ quite a bit on measures at our last IAP

14:59 ↗ meeting um that they reflect the plan

15:03 ↗ level goal focus area targets and then

15:06 ↗ also the new uh the addition of these

15:09 ↗ high priority measures.

15:12 ↗ Um the targets and actions have all been

15:15 ↗ updated based on feedback from you all

15:17 ↗ other commissions and committee as well

15:20 ↗ as the committees that convened last

15:22 ↗ summer.

15:23 ↗ Um, and then one other change you may or

15:27 ↗ may not recall from the 2021 plan is

15:29 ↗ that each of the focus areas talked

15:32 ↗ about the relevant functional plan. So,

15:34 ↗ how it related to other city plans and

15:37 ↗ then they also had a kind of call to

15:40 ↗ action within each of those sections. We

15:43 ↗ decided to remove that because we have

15:46 ↗ um of an overarching discussion of how

15:48 ↗ this plan relates to other plans and

15:51 ↗ then removed the call to action because

15:54 ↗ it was very focused on community members

15:58 ↗ where we see this plan as being for

16:00 ↗ businesses and visitors and being much

16:03 ↗ and for the city. So, it's much more

16:06 ↗ broad. The um previous call to action

16:08 ↗ just felt very focused on residents.

16:11 ↗ Sure. this pro this plan really speaks

16:14 ↗ to everyone.

16:16 ↗ Um

16:18 ↗ so th that is very high level summary um

16:22 ↗ of the major changes um but wanted to

16:26 ↗ now just open it up for discussion

16:28 ↗ feedback on those changes gaps um that

16:32 ↗ we

16:35 ↗ >> Nancy

16:37 ↗ >> well I really support

16:39 ↗ 98% of what you've done but I'm

16:43 ↗ concerned about removing the what can

16:45 ↗ you do And I think that people need to

16:48 ↗ understand. I mean, this is becoming

16:50 ↗ more and more of a problem nationally

16:53 ↗ and internationally. And so people need

16:55 ↗ to know what they can and can't do. And

16:57 ↗ having a page for community members, a

16:59 ↗ page for a business, and a page for

17:02 ↗ whatever else, you know, the city, um,

17:04 ↗ or, you know, even a column of

17:06 ↗ suggestions, I think, is important for

17:08 ↗ people. It's something you're going to

17:09 ↗ want on the website. People are not

17:11 ↗ going to read. I mean, this is a tough

17:13 ↗ thing to read. even for me who's been

17:16 ↗ involved since this committee started.

17:18 ↗ Um, so I think you need a highle summary

17:22 ↗ section that has it somewhere. Um, so

17:25 ↗ people know that they can make a

17:26 ↗ difference by changing to a heat pump

17:28 ↗ and whatever else we choose to do. And

17:32 ↗ it would be very hard in this document

17:34 ↗ to find it what I personally could do to

17:37 ↗ try and make a difference in my

17:38 ↗ community. And I think that's why we put

17:40 ↗ it in last time. And I'm very

17:43 ↗ discouraged if we do not continue to

17:44 ↗ have that as we move forward because I

17:46 ↗ think people, businesses, etc. need to

17:48 ↗ know that. The second piece is which is

17:51 ↗ an easy part, but I also think we need

17:53 ↗ to add that section that Ann referred to

17:54 ↗ about ideas we talked about and um we're

17:58 ↗ not able to accomplish because of, you

18:00 ↗ know, the legal, state law, whatever.

18:03 ↗ But it's an idea we talked about and

18:05 ↗ it's something that five years from now

18:07 ↗ might make more sense because something

18:08 ↗ might change. So, and it also gives

18:12 ↗ something for that you could communicate

18:14 ↗ to council which is there is more we

18:16 ↗ could do if we could just get a few

18:18 ↗ things around us taken care of. So, I

18:21 ↗ think that's an important piece that we

18:23 ↗ thought thought about and decided it

18:25 ↗ wasn't feasible and I'd really encourage

18:28 ↗ us to continue. That's my

18:35 ↗ >> Yeah, I totally agree with Nancy that um

18:39 ↗ call the action for for um you know

18:42 ↗ people and businesses owners and

18:44 ↗ businesses and um is that already in the

18:47 ↗ dashboard or would it need to be put in

18:49 ↗ both dashboard and the plan action plan?

18:52 ↗ >> We had a call to action in our 2025 end

18:55 ↗ of year report. Um, it's not it's pretty

18:59 ↗ limited, but we could build that out.

19:01 ↗ >> Needs to be everywhere.

19:02 ↗ >> Yeah, we can talk about I think we'll be

19:04 ↗ reworking the dashboard with the new

19:06 ↗ targets and measures, so we can look at

19:08 ↗ that. We have necessarily have a call to

19:11 ↗ action. We kind of highlight getting

19:13 ↗ involved.

19:13 ↗ >> No, there's no there's no call to action

19:15 ↗ specifically within the dashboard. um

19:17 ↗ the dashboard will get reworked with the

19:19 ↗ IAAP update and that was one thing that

19:22 ↗ was mentioned in the measures uh

19:25 ↗ committee was thinking about kind of

19:27 ↗ more of a welcome page that invites

19:30 ↗ somebody into the dashboard more versus

19:33 ↗ the way it's set up which is kind of

19:35 ↗ diving straight into data.

19:38 ↗ >> It's great. data is great, but people

19:41 ↗ just want to know what they can do

19:42 ↗ sometimes and we need them to be really

19:45 ↗ um question on the call to action. Would

19:48 ↗ you all prefer that embedded within each

19:51 ↗ of the focus areas? Um so a call to

19:54 ↗ action on the building energy or an

19:57 ↗ appendix where we have a page for each

20:00 ↗ or

20:00 ↗ >> I wouldn't put in an appendix because

20:01 ↗ it's not part of the document in my

20:03 ↗ opinion. Most people won't read it.

20:05 ↗ Sorry to interrupt Ann. You're still

20:06 ↗ talking.

20:08 ↗ >> I like when you go back.

20:09 ↗ >> Yeah. So do I. We're But I just think

20:12 ↗ having it somewhere in the document in

20:15 ↗ one place so you don't have to read each

20:17 ↗ section to find it. It's a summary and

20:19 ↗ it could be something you could hand out

20:21 ↗ at sustainability.

20:22 ↗ >> Yeah. One pager at the sustainab your

20:25 ↗ sustainability fair.

20:26 ↗ >> Yeah.

20:26 ↗ >> I would see it, you know, on the

20:28 ↗ website. It would be, you know, an

20:30 ↗ another tab basically a call to action

20:32 ↗ tab right up in front kind of like

20:33 ↗ executive summary. And then same in the

20:36 ↗ document right up in the front there. So

20:37 ↗ because a lot of people I mean they'll

20:38 ↗ flip through the first five pages and

20:40 ↗ then

20:41 ↗ >> Yeah.

20:41 ↗ >> and they're just going to look at

20:42 ↗ pictures after that and the graphs and

20:44 ↗ whatnot.

20:46 ↗ >> And it's great too because we last year

20:49 ↗ we put together a sustainability

20:51 ↗ resource guide for businesses and that's

20:54 ↗ only been promoted to the business

20:55 ↗ community. So to be able to bring in a

20:58 ↗ dash from there into this land so this

21:02 ↗ another way about a lot of the content

21:04 ↗ we've already written.

21:06 ↗ >> Nancy said I think people want to do the

21:07 ↗ right thing but they don't generally

21:10 ↗ they have a good idea but they don't

21:11 ↗ know specifically what you are asking.

21:13 ↗ >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

21:19 ↗ >> How should we do this? Are you going to

21:20 ↗ go through and so overall you want that?

21:25 ↗ >> Yeah. Next we're going to move specific

21:26 ↗ to targets. So if there's other general

21:30 ↗ comments about content missing, happy we

21:32 ↗ can I can bring up the document. Let's

21:36 ↗ >> this the appropriate place to talk about

21:37 ↗ the tenure.

21:39 ↗ >> Um let's why don't we save that for the

21:41 ↗ implementation section. Yeah. Other

21:44 ↗ comments on we do have a question in the

21:48 ↗ presentation. Is there anything else?

21:50 ↗ But I'd say if you have major sections

21:52 ↗ you want us to rewrite, new sections to

21:54 ↗ add, let's talk about that.

21:55 ↗ >> Uh yeah, I do have a new section. Great.

21:59 ↗ >> So, and I think it should also be in the

22:00 ↗ call to action. So, um I

22:05 ↗ didn't see anything about um forest, you

22:09 ↗ know, fire

22:11 ↗ wild, not forest fire, but wildfire

22:14 ↗ mitigation actions. So, and for

22:17 ↗ instance, a wildfire, I always think of

22:19 ↗ it as a forest fire, but wildfires are

22:21 ↗ just like out of control fires. So,

22:23 ↗ there's two wildfires going on today

22:26 ↗ right now. You know where they are?

22:29 ↗ >> I think one of the big

22:31 ↗ >> Georgia or something like that.

22:32 ↗ >> Yeah, Georgia and Florida. Already 50

22:34 ↗ homes have been burned or so less than I

22:38 ↗ heard. And I just did a quick glance

22:41 ↗ like 5,000 acres and one of them has

22:43 ↗ burned. Um, and I don't think that's

22:46 ↗ normal,

22:47 ↗ >> right? It's going to get hot here. This

22:49 ↗ is climate change. We're trying to be

22:50 ↗ resilient. So, what about if we put it

22:53 ↗ in the resilience and community

22:55 ↗ wellness?

23:00 ↗ In fact, I thought it was there before,

23:02 ↗ but then I saw um something was taken

23:05 ↗ out about wildfire and then I realized

23:07 ↗ that that was just to get people

23:09 ↗ prepared for wildfire. Like, what do I

23:12 ↗ take? you know, how do I prepare and

23:14 ↗ what do I take to leave the house and

23:15 ↗ stuff like that? But I'm talking about

23:18 ↗ um you know, pardoning your home.

23:22 ↗ So, if there is a fire, either

23:26 ↗ forest fire, you've got that 5 foot

23:28 ↗ buffer and your home is hardened, so

23:32 ↗ maybe it's not going to burn. So it's

23:34 ↗ it's they've shown in like LA, you know,

23:37 ↗ there's uh the houses that didn't burn

23:41 ↗ had these practices. So houses in

23:44 ↗ multiple fires that we've had that

23:46 ↗ didn't burn have had these home

23:48 ↗ harvesting practices. They did the work.

23:50 ↗ And so it just makes sense to um you get

23:53 ↗ the word out more. It seems like most

23:55 ↗ people don't know about it. And then of

23:58 ↗ course, not only that, but like we all

24:01 ↗ we might be barbecuing, you know,

24:03 ↗ something outside and um we live next to

24:07 ↗ a forest and um a little fire gets out

24:11 ↗ of control and it's really dry and then

24:13 ↗ it just catches the whole forest fire.

24:15 ↗ So it goes both ways. We want to protect

24:17 ↗ our forest and we want to protect our

24:19 ↗ >> So I really think this has to be in

24:21 ↗ there.

24:22 ↗ >> Yeah. Is there um I think we tried to do

24:26 ↗ we were trying to generalize a lot of

24:29 ↗ the results action should be generalized

24:33 ↗ important.

24:33 ↗ >> So calling out wildfire specifically.

24:36 ↗ This came up when your emergency

24:38 ↗ management

24:40 ↗ >> manager was here and we kind of went

24:43 ↗ down this path and I want to say,

24:45 ↗ correct me if I'm wrong, but I want to

24:47 ↗ say that he was going to address it in

24:49 ↗ some of his outreach materials, but it

24:51 ↗ wouldn't be bad to echo it by any means.

24:53 ↗ to the echo because okay for instance um

24:56 ↗ when Minnie Dwali was we were doing the

24:58 ↗ tree

24:59 ↗ >> cup

25:00 ↗ >> um I was like let's let's have a five

25:03 ↗ foot buffer you know of non-plantable

25:06 ↗ things like don't plant a bunch of

25:08 ↗ shrubs in that 5 foot buffer have gravel

25:10 ↗ or something around the edges

25:13 ↗ >> and um she was like nope we can't do

25:16 ↗ that um but what we can do is educate

25:19 ↗ the public

25:21 ↗ and so Um, in in order for that to

25:25 ↗ happen, it has to be in our plans.

25:26 ↗ >> Yeah,

25:27 ↗ >> multiple plans. Maybe all our plans.

25:29 ↗ >> Okay. Um, I know I'm trying to

25:33 ↗ Oh, we did

25:34 ↗ >> incentivize. Yeah.

25:36 ↗ >> 1.3. I know this was I think a

25:38 ↗ recommendation from Tom pre-qualifying

25:41 ↗ contractors. Um, so we do mention

25:43 ↗ incentivizing wildife or wild wildfire

25:47 ↗ resistant building materials

25:49 ↗ >> building materials, but it's more than

25:51 ↗ that. in your

25:52 ↗ >> so I did read the building materials

25:55 ↗ >> but there's the whole practice that

25:58 ↗ conservation district county fire and

26:01 ↗ rescue DNR they've all got good

26:03 ↗ practices right so follow those

26:06 ↗ practices and it doesn't really have to

26:07 ↗ do with the material has a little bit to

26:09 ↗ do that's one of it but it's just a pain

26:11 ↗ part

26:11 ↗ >> okay so folks want to see a specific

26:15 ↗ action around

26:17 ↗ that yeah I think so Sure.

26:22 ↗ >> That's a lot of emissions, you know,

26:24 ↗ houses and forest burn.

26:27 ↗ It would reduce our tree canopy a lot.

26:29 ↗ >> Yeah. Potentially.

26:34 ↗ >> And the Isiqua Alpro Club has a forum

26:36 ↗ coming up on 29th that goes with this in

26:41 ↗ how to keep our forest healthy in these

26:44 ↗ education.

26:46 ↗ Um

26:47 ↗ on

26:51 ↗ getting idea what what we want that

26:53 ↗ action to cover specifically.

26:59 ↗ >> Um

27:00 ↗ >> I heard forest protection too.

27:03 ↗ >> Wildfire wildfire mitigation I think.

27:05 ↗ Could that be the title?

27:16 ↗ wildfire mitigation would maybe go a

27:19 ↗ little bit more towards kind of like

27:21 ↗ forest management practices. So I think

27:24 ↗ it maybe like uh fire

27:28 ↗ impact

27:30 ↗ >> is that what you're getting at

27:32 ↗ wildfire mitigation is is how they how

27:35 ↗ they word it but I can look it up right

27:37 ↗ now.

27:39 ↗ We can talk with Jared too.

27:42 ↗ >> I think it's more than forest management

27:43 ↗ because you know you live in

27:44 ↗ neighborhoods that don't Highlands

27:46 ↗ doesn't have any forests in the center

27:48 ↗ of it but they still have a lot of homes

27:50 ↗ that may not may not be ready for a fire

27:52 ↗ that might come through.

27:53 ↗ >> Yeah. you know, breaking the, you know,

27:56 ↗ breaking up leaves and everything looks

27:58 ↗ flammable. You know, trimming back your

28:00 ↗ trees, not planting anything there.

28:05 ↗ any flat surface, you know, could have

28:08 ↗ nonflammable stuff. Having a metal roof

28:10 ↗ or you know those roofs that with a

28:13 ↗ class A fire rated um

28:19 ↗ shingle roof, which I don't know what

28:21 ↗ that what those are, but I know it's

28:22 ↗ less expensive than a metal roof. I like

28:24 ↗ metal roofs and I don't know like

28:25 ↗ concrete.

28:27 ↗ >> Those are some that we're recommending.

28:30 ↗ >> Okay,

28:32 ↗ >> but it's all in the plans. There's a

28:33 ↗ bunch of plans out there and so you guys

28:35 ↗ I know you guys are good at figuring

28:37 ↗ this out.

28:40 ↗ >> Okay. Yeah, we can talk with um Jared

28:43 ↗ and develop a general but at least it's

28:45 ↗ calling out

28:48 ↗ wild um calling out wildfire

28:51 ↗ specifically.

28:54 ↗ >> Yeah, that's great. And it is it is also

28:57 ↗ resilience but I think the mitigation is

29:00 ↗ like how do we not get it spread? Mhm.

29:03 ↗ >> What we're trying to do is not is make

29:04 ↗ it so it doesn't spread tires.

29:08 ↗ >> Okay.

29:09 ↗ >> Great

29:11 ↗ other

29:13 ↗ Well, I have the plan open. Any other um

29:17 ↗ actions that folks feel like we missed

29:19 ↗ or

29:21 ↗ >> So, I didn't see load. So, I'm wondering

29:23 ↗ if load shifting and demand response are

29:26 ↗ a little bit different.

29:27 ↗ >> Is that possible? Is is it like when we

29:31 ↗ um

29:33 ↗ when we don't use electricity during our

29:35 ↗ peak times and then we use it during off

29:38 ↗ peak times is I think we might have

29:42 ↗ categorized that as demand response but

29:44 ↗ I'm wondering if demand response is more

29:45 ↗ like when we have a hot or cold event

29:48 ↗ and we're asked to um not use

29:50 ↗ electricity for a whole day or certain

29:52 ↗ hours in that day. And so is that demand

29:55 ↗ response and then loads when we just oh

29:57 ↗ we're going to curtail and use that

29:59 ↗ later.

30:00 ↗ >> Yeah, that's a good question. I think

30:02 ↗ and not an expert on this, but I think

30:05 ↗ with PSSE's program there's with the

30:08 ↗ demand response, it can be just using it

30:11 ↗ um shifting your energy use to times

30:13 ↗ when there's less demand. So it could be

30:16 ↗ like making sure your car is set up to

30:18 ↗ charge during the night instead of at

30:20 ↗ 6:00 when everyone's going home. But we

30:22 ↗ could add in load shifting here just to

30:24 ↗ make sure it's

30:26 ↗ >> so people understand. Yeah. So I

30:29 ↗ listened to the Bolts podcast and you

30:31 ↗ know and I did know that we weren't

30:33 ↗ using all of our electricity on the grid

30:35 ↗ but it's like 50 50%. So better

30:38 ↗ utilization of what's on the grid

30:40 ↗ because they have to plan for peak

30:42 ↗ events and then um power companies also

30:45 ↗ make money on um building things. That's

30:49 ↗ how they make their money. So, um, so

30:52 ↗ yeah, just better utilization of the

30:54 ↗ grid. We can help out with that.

30:58 ↗ >> I'll just add that now. We'll we'll

31:00 ↗ chat.

31:00 ↗ >> Saves money. Saves money for customers.

31:04 ↗ >> Let's see. And then I just had like

31:06 ↗ specific little things. Um, couple

31:09 ↗ little specific things. And I know we're

31:11 ↗ going to talk about tree. You're going

31:12 ↗ to ask us that question today. So,

31:17 ↗ so under strategy number one 1.2 too. I

31:20 ↗ think there should be advocate for

31:23 ↗ legislation and policy. It's not just

31:25 ↗ legislation. I think that can is

31:27 ↗ confusing if you are just going through

31:29 ↗ and you're looking at it and you don't

31:30 ↗ read the the full thing. So, I would

31:34 ↗ just add policy to that.

31:36 ↗ >> This is um

31:38 ↗ >> this is strategy 1.2.

31:43 ↗ >> Yeah. Category number one 1.3.

31:50 ↗ >> Okay. I mean

31:52 ↗ there

31:56 ↗ other folks comfortable with that change

31:59 ↗ >> in NS 1.3. I wasn't sure if they signed

32:02 ↗ to the green

32:04 ↗ because they are these are it's green

32:08 ↗ volunteers getting out there um removing

32:14 ↗ it.

32:16 ↗ >> Um they do I think and we called them

32:19 ↗ out I think in the implementation

32:22 ↗ plan. I think we wanted to leave it a

32:24 ↗ little broad since some of this might be

32:26 ↗ on private property. So we're trying to

32:28 ↗ be careful not calling out partners

32:30 ↗ here. Um, but we'll double check that

32:33 ↗ they're in the implementation

32:36 ↗ >> and then CR 1.3.

32:39 ↗ Um, talking. So, I think it

32:44 ↗ So, I just noticed the green roof, and

32:47 ↗ I'm starting to wonder now if that's a

32:49 ↗ good idea because if you don't keep it

32:52 ↗ moist, um the vegetation could get

32:55 ↗ really dry during a heat event. And um

32:59 ↗ on Fourth of July, somebody could

33:01 ↗ accidentally catch them by a bottle off.

33:06 ↗ >> Just a thought. I'm not really sure. I

33:08 ↗ didn't do any research about that. Yeah,

33:10 ↗ >> I think it was probably included because

33:12 ↗ it's a um strong cooling opportunity for

33:16 ↗ roofs. So, thinking about heat that and

33:19 ↗ painting them a light color like white

33:22 ↗ as the albido effect because we're

33:24 ↗ losing our ice caps. If we all had white

33:26 ↗ roofs, maybe that would help.

33:28 ↗ >> We could just remove it from here and

33:31 ↗ not call it out specifically. It doesn't

33:32 ↗ mean that

33:34 ↗ I

33:34 ↗ >> think most of at least the ones I'm

33:36 ↗ familiar with with our parks building

33:37 ↗ where we have them. There's requirement

33:40 ↗ to have irrigation up there and keep

33:42 ↗ them watered on a regular basis and they

33:43 ↗ have to be inspected.

33:46 ↗ >> Yeah.

33:46 ↗ >> For them to

33:48 ↗ keep that certification. Most of the

33:50 ↗ buildings are bleed through.

33:52 ↗ >> Good to know. Yeah.

33:54 ↗ >> I love freeze roof so I don't want to be

33:56 ↗ a naysayer but I just thought about that

33:58 ↗ as I was reading it.

34:00 ↗ >> Yeah.

34:00 ↗ >> Okay. Cool.

34:02 ↗ >> And then there was Ann's comment. So I

34:05 ↗ like what she said a lot of the things

34:08 ↗ but um

34:11 ↗ about

34:13 ↗ bring like one person from each

34:15 ↗ department

34:17 ↗ um and working collab collaboratively on

34:19 ↗ certain subjects

34:21 ↗ um to get those

34:26 ↗ I don't know if that is something you

34:27 ↗ think

34:29 ↗ >> um we do have language in the plan uh

34:33 ↗ building internal capacity um and

34:39 ↗ paraphrase basically building champions

34:41 ↗ across the entire city to advocate the

34:45 ↗ work um for sustainability initiatives

34:48 ↗ within departments. We have a couple of

34:51 ↗ cross departmental committees

34:54 ↗ uh where we do get a bit to what Ann was

34:57 ↗ suggesting

35:11 ↗ uh OM 2.5 we talk about strengthening

35:15 ↗ staff ability to

35:17 ↗ make sustainability related decisions.

35:20 ↗ Some of that could be through

35:23 ↗ programming um

35:27 ↗ like that. So yeah, I don't know if we

35:30 ↗ want to specifically get to that level

35:32 ↗ of detail where we're calling out the

35:34 ↗ city to develop a cross departmental

35:37 ↗ committee. We have some of that, but of

35:41 ↗ course our

35:44 ↗ look at your comp plan. It's probably

35:46 ↗ something in there that speaks to that.

35:51 ↗ >> You had some really great comments, but

35:53 ↗ I can't remember right now. I should

35:54 ↗ have written it down. I was just

35:56 ↗ wondering if we should address

36:00 ↗ what what was your most important

36:02 ↗ comment

36:05 ↗ in your comment. Yeah,

36:07 ↗ >> I haven't looked at detail in detail.

36:09 ↗ So, okay. So,

36:12 ↗ >> just wanted to make told.

36:16 ↗ >> Okay.

36:23 ↗ >> We can circle back to this if we have

36:24 ↗ more comments. That's JCO.

36:27 ↗ >> Can you just summarize what you have

36:29 ↗ agreed to do just so that Do you know

36:31 ↗ that or are you going to do it at the

36:33 ↗ end of the meeting? I just want to make

36:34 ↗ Yeah.

36:35 ↗ >> Yeah. No, I think that's a great

36:36 ↗ suggestion. So, we captured those real

36:38 ↗ specific comments on the plan

36:39 ↗ particularly around the resilience

36:42 ↗ action. We'll work on adding specific to

36:45 ↗ wildfire. And then the two new sections

36:47 ↗ that we talked about was adding a

36:50 ↗ section on what we can't do now or

36:52 ↗ barriers where we'll speak to ideas that

36:55 ↗ were talked about but we don't feel for

36:58 ↗ whatever reason it might be that we

36:59 ↗ can't move them forward now. It might be

37:01 ↗ a legal barrier was called out as a

37:02 ↗ capacity barrier etc. Um and then we'll

37:07 ↗ also add a section early in the

37:09 ↗ document. It's a a call to action. Um we

37:12 ↗ can develop one pages for residents,

37:16 ↗ businesses, employees, visitors. Um and

37:21 ↗ we'll also be sure that that content is

37:24 ↗ integrated into the new dashboards and

37:26 ↗ across web pages.

37:28 ↗ >> I like that. Thank you, Megan.

37:32 ↗ >> Great work as always. Yeah,

37:35 ↗ >> we've been looking at this document for

37:38 ↗ over a year, so always nice to have a

37:40 ↗ fresh set of eyes on it. Okay,

37:45 ↗ please.

37:46 ↗ >> All right, and folks online, feel free

37:47 ↗ to jump in kind of having more of a

37:50 ↗ conversation here. So, jump in anytime.

37:54 ↗ All right, we're going to get a little

37:56 ↗ bit more specific now with some proposed

37:59 ↗ change and updates to targets.

38:03 ↗ Um at the last meeting we talked about

38:06 ↗ uh changing the current tree canopy goal

38:08 ↗ from 55% by 2035 to 53%.

38:13 ↗ Um I think I didn't fully share Ann's

38:16 ↗ comments around that. Um where I think

38:19 ↗ and speak to this more Ann in her

38:21 ↗ discussions with Dan they had talked

38:24 ↗ about a 53% tree canopy possibly being

38:28 ↗ achievable by 2050. Um, so there's a

38:32 ↗ proposal to move the tree canopy to

38:35 ↗ 2050. Um, I will note he sent support

38:38 ↗ for that. And then the other target, um,

38:42 ↗ our water manager has been out on leave.

38:45 ↗ Had a chance to talk with her and our

38:47 ↗ public works director a couple weeks ago

38:49 ↗ around the water target. This is new. We

38:51 ↗ didn't currently have a water target in

38:53 ↗ the plan. And what we landed on was

38:57 ↗ having

38:59 ↗ um the water target under the focus area

39:01 ↗ speak to the city's water system plan

39:04 ↗ which sets targets. That plan is about

39:07 ↗ to be updated. So we don't want to get

39:09 ↗ ahead of that very lengthy process and

39:13 ↗ um set targets in the IAP, but instead

39:16 ↗ referring to those targets that will be

39:18 ↗ in the water system plan. Um that's a

39:21 ↗ state approved plan. Um and then what we

39:25 ↗ also talked about as a really important

39:27 ↗ measure is looking at seasonal water use

39:30 ↗ and specifically what this would capture

39:32 ↗ is summer irrigation. Um which our water

39:35 ↗ shared is one of the biggest issues. Um

39:39 ↗ so we can't necessarily set a target for

39:42 ↗ that because it fluctuates based on the

39:45 ↗ weather and um new businesses coming to

39:48 ↗ town, new multif family buildings being

39:51 ↗ built. uh but she thought this would be

39:53 ↗ really important to track over time um

39:56 ↗ that we can uh see how it fluctuates in

39:59 ↗ comparison to weather.

40:02 ↗ So uh that's what we're proposing for

40:04 ↗ the water target is looking at the water

40:07 ↗ system or referring to the water system

40:10 ↗ this new priority measure around season

40:13 ↗ >> but the seasonal water has to be tracked

40:15 ↗ on the IAP or inside of the system plan.

40:18 ↗ >> Um no it's they track it separately. um

40:21 ↗ our public works department would track

40:23 ↗ that and report out on and we would

40:25 ↗ reflect that data in the dash.

40:29 ↗ >> Is the water system plan going to come

40:30 ↗ to this committee?

40:32 ↗ >> Uh I don't know if it typic well the

40:34 ↗ last time it was updated was probably

40:36 ↗ eight plus years ago but we can talk to

40:38 ↗ them. I don't know if

40:40 ↗ >> I guess if we're deferring water use

40:42 ↗ reduction target targets and you know

40:44 ↗ dealing with seasonal water use to

40:46 ↗ another plan it would instead of putting

40:48 ↗ it in this one and setting it. Yeah,

40:50 ↗ >> it would be great if it we could have an

40:52 ↗ opportunity to comment on it.

40:54 ↗ >> Yeah,

40:55 ↗ >> I think we need to see where the

40:56 ↗ reservoirs and pipes need to go but I

40:57 ↗ think the big picture policy issues are

40:59 ↗ probably something we might want to hear

41:01 ↗ from them on.

41:02 ↗ >> Great. Yeah, I'm guessing that probably

41:04 ↗ wasn't like rivers and streams,

41:07 ↗ >> right? So water system.

41:10 ↗ >> There's also inside of that plan or

41:13 ↗ separate from it, typically there's a

41:14 ↗ water contingency plan. So if

41:17 ↗ >> SPU issues a voluntary compliance, then

41:20 ↗ you'll you'll see that.

41:23 ↗ >> Great. It's been a while since I've done

41:24 ↗ one, but I used to do them all the time.

41:28 ↗ >> That was my responsibility. Water system

41:30 ↗ plans.

41:31 ↗ >> Great. Yeah. And I believe that was

41:32 ↗ going to be updated in 2728. So that's a

41:35 ↗ great suggestion we can talk.

41:39 ↗ >> Uh so our questions to you all or are if

41:43 ↗ you want to keep the tree canopy target

41:45 ↗ of mention 53% at 2035 or do we want to

41:50 ↗ bump that out to 20?

41:53 ↗ Yeah,

41:55 ↗ >> I had a great meeting with Dan Hints and

41:58 ↗ um he's done a lot of great work around

42:00 ↗ this, put a lot of thought into it. Um

42:03 ↗ um he worked with King Conservation

42:06 ↗ District. They have a GIS tool, New York

42:09 ↗ GIS or something like that. And um he

42:12 ↗ was really able to drill down and see

42:14 ↗ like where could we be planting trees?

42:17 ↗ And um so

42:21 ↗ uh

42:23 ↗ first off maybe I should start so we've

42:24 ↗ been holding steady uh at the 51% since

42:28 ↗ 2019 and I think Stacy explained why

42:31 ↗ that was at the last meeting. So there

42:33 ↗ were some big housing developments and

42:35 ↗ maybe the highlands that the trees got

42:38 ↗ cut down and um it was measured and then

42:41 ↗ they grew back and so um they grew back

42:44 ↗ by 2017 or 2019 to 2019 and um and so

42:49 ↗ we've been holding steady at 51% since

42:53 ↗ then. And um so the 53% that's two more%

42:58 ↗ of course and um

43:01 ↗ uh that would be like 150 acres and he's

43:06 ↗ thought he sees like 75 acres in um

43:11 ↗ state park

43:13 ↗ state park

43:15 ↗ keeping in mind that you need to keep

43:16 ↗ some of it meadow um to keep suggested

43:21 ↗ this and then apparently also So, um,

43:24 ↗ whenever they start planting trees,

43:26 ↗ there's a lot of concerned citizens.

43:28 ↗ They're concerned about, um, the birds,

43:30 ↗ you know, because there's a lot of, um,

43:32 ↗ birds that hunt in the meadows. So,

43:37 ↗ >> something to think about. So, we want to

43:38 ↗ keep some meadows as well. And then

43:40 ↗ there's like a few acres in um,

43:44 ↗ a south cove,

43:47 ↗ and then

43:49 ↗ a few more here and there um, and on

43:52 ↗ private land. So it seems like um 150

43:56 ↗ acres would be total um

44:00 ↗ so

44:03 ↗ uh the uh but it has to be at 20 by

44:08 ↗ 2050. So it takes about 10 years to grow

44:10 ↗ a canopy.

44:12 ↗ And so

44:14 ↗ anything that for a 2035 pole we would

44:17 ↗ have already had to have planted. And so

44:20 ↗ um and maybe we've got like half a

44:23 ↗ percent. So if we wanted to do like half

44:25 ↗ a percent by um 2035 and then the rest

44:29 ↗ and then you know 53% by

44:33 ↗ um total by 2050 that would work. I

44:38 ↗ think that's pretty much everything. Um

44:42 ↗ but yeah, I was really impressed with

44:43 ↗ how Dan um put a lot of work into

44:46 ↗ figuring this all out. So it makes total

44:48 ↗ sense.

44:50 ↗ And that's a lot. 50 150 acres. It's a

44:53 ↗ lot.

44:55 ↗ >> I don't know that I want to extend it

44:56 ↗ all the way to 2050. I like the 2035

45:00 ↗ goal. Um, you're not going to get mature

45:03 ↗ trees by 2035, but you could be on your

45:05 ↗ way to planting those. Maybe you're

45:07 ↗ reporting out in 2030, 2032, somewhere

45:09 ↗ in there that, hey, we've planted 75

45:12 ↗ acres and, you know, by 2040 we expect

45:15 ↗ to have a mature canopy of this size. So

45:18 ↗ >> yeah,

45:19 ↗ >> something like that that

45:22 ↗ is looking future focused rather than

45:23 ↗ just tableabling it till 2050 because

45:26 ↗ otherwise

45:27 ↗ >> they have to be planted before 2040 or

45:30 ↗ it won't

45:31 ↗ >> easily. Yeah, probably before that.

45:33 ↗ >> Yeah. So So that makes sense. X amount

45:37 ↗ planted by rather than the canopy also

45:40 ↗ included. I like that. Planted by 2035

45:43 ↗ or 2040.

45:44 ↗ >> See, I I would support that too. The the

45:47 ↗ only reason I like the 2035 is because

45:50 ↗ you've got to get the council to spend

45:51 ↗ the money

45:52 ↗ >> to actually achieve to buy the trees and

45:54 ↗ get the land and stuff like that. If you

45:56 ↗ put it to 2050, that gives them a whole

45:58 ↗ 20 years to try and do any of this. And

46:02 ↗ it's easy to let this target slide. It

46:05 ↗ is really easy when you're looking 20

46:07 ↗ years out. It's much harder to look at

46:09 ↗ it in 2035. So if you could say have so

46:13 ↗ many trees or you know 1% by or two 1%

46:18 ↗ by just so many trees planted by 2035

46:21 ↗ and so many trees planted by 2040 so

46:24 ↗ that you achieve a 2050 target of a

46:26 ↗ canopy of um whatever and I'd leave that

46:29 ↗ to Dan to come back with a

46:30 ↗ recommendation on how he can achieve

46:32 ↗ this. I think we're hearing him, but I

46:35 ↗ think what we don't want to do is not

46:37 ↗ have council put the financial

46:40 ↗ wherewithal behind this goal. Acquire

46:43 ↗ the land,

46:44 ↗ >> find the land, plant the trees.

46:47 ↗ >> Yeah,

46:47 ↗ >> you might not need to acquire the land,

46:49 ↗ but with this plan, you don't need to

46:50 ↗ acquire any land. You just plant the

46:51 ↗ trees.

46:52 ↗ >> Right. And I'm just saying, but if they

46:54 ↗ have to, and we suggested going outside

46:55 ↗ the city to get some of the trees

46:57 ↗ potentially at the harvest that are

46:59 ↗ happening just outside our boundaries,

47:01 ↗ >> you can see them all the time. an

47:03 ↗ opportunity may arise or they get an

47:07 ↗ donated to them. I know a lot of lot of

47:09 ↗ things happen between now and 23.

47:11 ↗ >> Alex, you had a comment.

47:13 ↗ I just wanted to agree with that line of

47:16 ↗ thinking of having a number of acres

47:18 ↗ that we as it's a goal to be planted um

47:22 ↗ by 2035 or 2040 potentially

47:26 ↗ um that then would be the getting to

47:30 ↗ that 2050

47:32 ↗ target of canopy coverage.

47:39 ↗ >> He's got to figure it out now.

47:41 ↗ stay broke.

47:45 ↗ >> I'm not completely clear. Do we want to

47:47 ↗ keep the target and then have a goal? Um

47:51 ↗ Dan and his team report out on number of

47:54 ↗ trees planted every year. That's easy

47:55 ↗ for us to pull. We could ask them does

47:57 ↗ that a goal of annual planting. They

48:00 ↗ probably have that built out.

48:02 ↗ >> Well, if I'm hearing right from it's 150

48:04 ↗ acres you said when you talked to Dan.

48:07 ↗ >> Yeah. to get to the 2%

48:09 ↗ >> having to work with state parks. Yeah.

48:11 ↗ So, um rather than the number of trees

48:14 ↗ that Yeah. or they'll have to start

48:15 ↗ calculating the acres

48:18 ↗ >> with the number of trees

48:20 ↗ >> 150 acres of trees planted by 2035 to

48:23 ↗ achieve achieve a 53% canopy by 2050

48:28 ↗ something like that. that change the

48:30 ↗ target to acres.

48:32 ↗ >> 150 acres

48:35 ↗ >> to achieve a

48:38 ↗ canopy

48:40 ↗ >> by 2050

48:41 ↗ >> to achieve

48:45 ↗ >> 150 acres of trees planted by 2035

48:48 ↗ >> to achieve target.

48:51 ↗ >> Sounds great. run that back% sure

48:55 ↗ >> or

48:56 ↗ >> he can come back

48:58 ↗ >> maybe

49:00 ↗ 38

49:03 ↗ >> 2038

49:05 ↗ >> and the plan should be incremental

49:07 ↗ between now and 2035 so that you

49:10 ↗ >> they're increasing. Yeah.

49:11 ↗ >> But if you set that

49:12 ↗ >> Yeah. Wait until 2034

49:14 ↗ >> financially heads up and say

49:17 ↗ >> otherwise they're just going to kick the

49:18 ↗ can down the road.

49:20 ↗ >> Yeah. Throw

49:21 ↗ >> the money out. Yeah. Okay.

49:24 ↗ >> Going to

49:26 ↗ make the change in here. Make sure we

49:28 ↗ get the wording right.

49:32 ↗ >> We would also maybe want to talk with

49:34 ↗ Dan around um

49:37 ↗ tree loss in the same period. So if you

49:40 ↗ plan 150 acres but there's development

49:43 ↗ or bomb cyclones, things like that,

49:45 ↗ there would have to be, wouldn't it?

49:47 ↗ >> So I don't quite know what that would

49:49 ↗ look like, but we can talk with them

49:51 ↗ around how to include

49:53 ↗ that language around net. Yeah, I think

49:56 ↗ it would be a net

49:57 ↗ >> goal is the 53% by 2050, but

50:00 ↗ >> yeah,

50:00 ↗ >> we don't want to wait till 2050 go on

50:03 ↗ the ground.

50:04 ↗ >> Exactly.

50:05 ↗ >> Acres planted.

50:08 ↗ Maybe we should say at least

50:11 ↗ >> Okay. Is that we can word Smith it?

50:16 ↗ >> You understand what we're trying to get

50:17 ↗ to? Yeah, I I do. And I want to make

50:19 ↗ sure that it's not um you know, lost.

50:23 ↗ >> I think you've captured it.

50:25 ↗ >> You and Dan can work it out.

50:34 ↗ >> Or something like that. We need to Okay,

50:38 ↗ everyone.

50:40 ↗ Good. Okay.

50:50 ↗ Um, and the water should have changed

50:53 ↗ that while I was in there. Um, no

50:55 ↗ changes to the water target, but we will

50:57 ↗ talk to public works uh making sure that

50:59 ↗ the board has a chance to review the

51:01 ↗ water system plan and the um recommended

51:04 ↗ targets in there when it's developed

51:08 ↗ >> and the water contingency plan as well.

51:11 ↗ Is this like a Google doc that updates

51:14 ↗ um automatically that so we can see it

51:17 ↗ when you type something?

51:18 ↗ >> No, I can bring it back up.

51:20 ↗ >> Oh, no worries.

51:24 ↗ Hey,

51:29 ↗ >> do we have outreach programs in here

51:31 ↗ that to help us get there related to

51:34 ↗ this canopy for the

51:35 ↗ >> Oh, we have um Yes, there's lots of

51:39 ↗ programming around tree planting

51:43 ↗ >> owners

51:45 ↗ trees.

51:47 ↗ >> Okay,

51:48 ↗ >> let's make sure that's the parks plan.

51:52 ↗ Yep. Implementing the parks plan.

51:54 ↗ Implementing the urban forest management

51:56 ↗ plan. Uh tree canopy on private

51:59 ↗ property.

52:02 ↗ >> There's an education

52:05 ↗ >> we have general education outreach.

52:10 ↗ Yeah. Take a look if you are like

52:12 ↗ >> just as a result of these discussions I

52:15 ↗ now have 36 small trees that I'm

52:19 ↗ nurturing.

52:20 ↗ >> Yeah. yard for for donation to the city.

52:25 ↗ >> But if we could get

52:28 ↗ into lots of people doing that.

52:30 ↗ >> Yeah.

52:30 ↗ >> We wouldn't have to buy trees.

52:32 ↗ >> Yeah.

52:32 ↗ >> And they could get them, you know,

52:33 ↗ mature trees.

52:35 ↗ >> Yeah.

52:35 ↗ >> 5-year-old trees.

52:37 ↗ >> I could

52:39 ↗ see.

52:48 ↗ >> Great. So um next section to discuss is

52:52 ↗ the implementation section. Um within

52:55 ↗ this section uh it does include kind of

52:58 ↗ more details around how we would plan to

53:02 ↗ uh implement all of the actions that

53:04 ↗ we've talked about uh for the last many

53:06 ↗ months. Um again today I'll just kind of

53:10 ↗ go through some of the major changes

53:12 ↗ that we've incorporated into uh the

53:14 ↗ implementation section at this point and

53:16 ↗ then open up to any comments and

53:18 ↗ questions related to that. So, uh, the

53:21 ↗ first one being, uh, something that we

53:23 ↗ actually talked with the environmental

53:24 ↗ board about a long time ago at this

53:27 ↗ point, but it was, um, we have

53:29 ↗ incorporated at this point, um, a

53:32 ↗ description of this being a 10-year, uh,

53:36 ↗ action plan, um, with many pieces as

53:40 ↗ outlined on the slides related to um,

53:43 ↗ how we are going to deal with the plan

53:46 ↗ on a year or and every other year basis.

53:48 ↗ So,

53:49 ↗ In addition to it being or within it

53:51 ↗ being a 10-year plan, we would have

53:54 ↗ bienial work plans that align with our

53:56 ↗ budgeting process um and develop uh

53:59 ↗ implementation approaches for the

54:01 ↗ actions that we're going to be taking in

54:03 ↗ sustainability as well as in other

54:04 ↗ departments uh in more detail.

54:08 ↗ Additionally, uh there'd be annual

54:09 ↗ progress reports on what we've

54:11 ↗ accomplished the previous year, what

54:13 ↗ we'd be looking forward to, um things

54:15 ↗ like that. um helping kind of provide uh

54:19 ↗ context for um how we are really uh

54:22 ↗ implementing the climate action plan um

54:25 ↗ and what we need to be considering for

54:26 ↗ for those next years.

54:29 ↗ Uh we would uh similar to uh how we've

54:32 ↗ discussed this with the board in the

54:34 ↗ past, we've included that there would be

54:36 ↗ regular greenhouse gas inventories every

54:39 ↗ 2 to 5 years. Um and we incorporated

54:42 ↗ this flexibility of 2 to 5 years so that

54:45 ↗ we could align with um regional efforts

54:48 ↗ and maximize resources. So um as of

54:51 ↗ right now we do inventories every two

54:53 ↗ years with the east side climate

54:55 ↗ partnership. Um but as those

54:58 ↗ opportunities change, as regional

55:00 ↗ opportunities arise, we uh thought and

55:03 ↗ the board had uh supported in the past

55:05 ↗ kind of allowing a little bit of

55:06 ↗ flexibility um uh so that those could

55:09 ↗ align those inventories could align with

55:11 ↗ those regional efforts.

55:14 ↗ Additionally, um making sure uh that we

55:17 ↗ shared out um lessons learned,

55:20 ↗ achievements, uh challenges um that

55:23 ↗ we've encountered while implementing the

55:25 ↗ climate action plan so that um we can

55:28 ↗ make sure that um we're being

55:30 ↗ transparent around um how the city is

55:34 ↗ learning and growing uh in that

55:36 ↗ implementation process. And then there

55:39 ↗ is also written in I believe it's in

55:40 ↗ 2030 doing a midpoint check-in uh to the

55:44 ↗ climate action plan. And this was uh

55:45 ↗ again specifically requested by the

55:48 ↗ environmental board when we had

55:49 ↗ previously talked about this. So

55:51 ↗ thinking a 10-year plan um is is quite a

55:55 ↗ long time. Um and the um uh length of

55:59 ↗ that plan is to allow us um the staff

56:02 ↗ some flexibility around um implementing

56:06 ↗ it. uh in implementing actions

56:08 ↗ especially that we know we're going to

56:09 ↗ be needing to do for the long period um

56:12 ↗ without necessarily shifting as many

56:14 ↗ resources into um a full plan update as

56:18 ↗ we've done this time. but instead

56:20 ↗ incorporating a midpoint check-in um and

56:23 ↗ additional check-ins from city

56:24 ↗ administration as we're evaluating our

56:27 ↗ progress against targets so that if we

56:29 ↗ do need to be um adding actions,

56:32 ↗ shifting targets um or strengthening

56:35 ↗ targets um or doing any other updates,

56:38 ↗ we can um have that um have that process

56:43 ↗ laid out.

56:45 ↗ Next slide. And there's additional

56:47 ↗ details also um some held over from the

56:50 ↗ previous plan and some updated related

56:52 ↗ to monitoring and evaluation, equity

56:55 ↗ considerations, incentives, things like

56:57 ↗ that.

56:58 ↗ Additionally, as part of the attachments

57:01 ↗ to the board materials uh today was uh

57:05 ↗ an Excel uh document of our

57:08 ↗ implementation plan as written right

57:10 ↗ now. And what this is intended to do is

57:12 ↗ to help us think through um what does

57:14 ↗ implementation of each of the actions

57:17 ↗ within the climate action plan actually

57:19 ↗ uh look like and mean. Included in that

57:22 ↗ implementation plan are uh estimated

57:25 ↗ start years of when staff would be

57:28 ↗ taking that action and and starting to

57:30 ↗ implement it. um many of the actions

57:34 ↗ have either ongoing implementation past

57:38 ↗ their start year um or there would be

57:41 ↗ kind of checkpoints, right? So if some

57:43 ↗ of the actions are assessed feasibility,

57:45 ↗ for instance, um that action could be

57:47 ↗ ongoing if we deem that action feasible

57:50 ↗ and um uh might end if if um it is

57:55 ↗ determined that's not the right action

57:56 ↗ or effort to implement at that time.

57:59 ↗ Additionally, we've highlighted um lead

58:01 ↗ agencies or lead departments within the

58:04 ↗ city, partner organizations,

58:06 ↗ um budget estimates um that go from

58:10 ↗ staff time all the way up to above uh

58:13 ↗ $250,000

58:15 ↗ for the most expensive uh actions that

58:18 ↗ we anticipate implementing. And then we

58:20 ↗ also added a new column specifically

58:22 ↗ related to connecting our actions back

58:25 ↗ to the targets that we've outlined

58:27 ↗ within the plan.

58:29 ↗ So

58:30 ↗ >> connecting each action to either the

58:32 ↗ plan level target specific focus area

58:35 ↗ targets and then also this was uh part

58:37 ↗ of the theory with the high priority

58:39 ↗ measures connecting those each of the

58:41 ↗ target actions back to those high pri

58:43 ↗ priority measures where appropriate.

58:46 ↗ We did remove specific uh reference to

58:49 ↗ partners and some local organizations

58:51 ↗ and we'll call those out in our two-year

58:53 ↗ plan. But we um wanted to make sure that

58:55 ↗ there was some flexibility in there as

58:57 ↗ partners change, as uh names change, as

59:02 ↗ uh as things change, but instead um call

59:05 ↗ out that we would be identifying the

59:07 ↗ appropriate local partners to um to work

59:10 ↗ with on the implementation of any action

59:12 ↗ as we go.

59:14 ↗ Those are generally the main changes

59:17 ↗ with the implementation plan and what

59:19 ↗ that uh looks like at this time. Um but

59:23 ↗ uh happy to hear um next set of feedback

59:27 ↗ on uh how that implementation section um

59:30 ↗ looks, feels and uh whether there are

59:32 ↗ any updates you'd like to see us make.

59:36 ↗ >> Do you feel that you have the

59:37 ↗ flexibility in here? So I'd say year two

59:40 ↗ you're looking at a feasibility study

59:42 ↗ and you're just like this is not going

59:43 ↗ to work and we really just need to bag

59:46 ↗ this, cut our losses and move on. Do you

59:48 ↗ have flexibility in here to be able to

59:49 ↗ do that or to shift the other direction

59:51 ↗ rather than waiting for the five or 10

59:53 ↗ year mark?

59:55 ↗ Um I think from my perspective I would

59:57 ↗ say yes for the actions that say assess

1:00:01 ↗ feasibility for I think um we could um

1:00:05 ↗ stop doing actions that don't have that

1:00:07 ↗ language in particular if it's deemed no

1:00:10 ↗ longer feasible um uh but the way the

1:00:14 ↗ the uh ones that are written um related

1:00:17 ↗ to feasibility and implementation I I

1:00:20 ↗ believe so we could kind of stop if um

1:00:22 ↗ >> yeah that's mostly the big kind of

1:00:25 ↗ policies or big actions, we've included

1:00:27 ↗ that language just because we want to

1:00:29 ↗ make sure that the cost benefit works

1:00:31 ↗ out and everybody's going to have the

1:00:33 ↗ intended impact. Um, and then I think if

1:00:36 ↗ there's other actions that we start down

1:00:38 ↗ the path of implementing and we just

1:00:40 ↗ realize this is not where we should be

1:00:42 ↗ investing our time or resources, that's

1:00:44 ↗ something we can report out in those

1:00:47 ↗ annual reports or reflect that banium

1:00:52 ↗ too. Cool.

1:00:58 ↗ So, it sounds like if we do go for the

1:00:59 ↗ 10 10 years, um, uh, there'll be like a

1:01:03 ↗ fiveyear check in, but it doesn't have

1:01:06 ↗ to be a full overhaul like this. It's it

1:01:08 ↗ just takes up a lot of time. Um, and so,

1:01:11 ↗ and so you can be fairly nimble. Or

1:01:14 ↗ maybe if there's something three years

1:01:15 ↗ where you feel like you have to change

1:01:17 ↗ it, you can, um, bring it up to the

1:01:19 ↗ board and talk about changing it.

1:01:21 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:01:22 ↗ >> Yeah. Absolutely. And we tried to in

1:01:25 ↗ this version of the plan, we tried to

1:01:28 ↗ generalize a bit more of the actions to

1:01:30 ↗ allow for that flexibility. But yeah, if

1:01:33 ↗ there's something we feel is essential

1:01:35 ↗ we move forward and it wasn't included

1:01:37 ↗ in the plan or something just isn't

1:01:40 ↗ right with the plan, I think we could

1:01:41 ↗ always bring it to the board and

1:01:43 ↗ recommend we do an update um even before

1:01:46 ↗ the five years if necessary.

1:01:49 ↗ >> Yeah. And I know Tom um expressed in his

1:01:52 ↗ comments he wasn't I think the tenure so

1:01:55 ↗ that was not his preferred approach but

1:01:58 ↗ we've tried to include checkpoints in

1:02:00 ↗ those by mail work plans uh to make sure

1:02:04 ↗ that we have those regular check-ins

1:02:05 ↗ that we would

1:02:09 ↗ share

1:02:11 ↗ >> and the annual reports for transparency

1:02:13 ↗ around of what we've done

1:02:16 ↗ >> the 10year number did that come from

1:02:18 ↗ state recommendations of when They plan

1:02:20 ↗ to acquire updates next

1:02:23 ↗ >> necessarily. Um I think it was just

1:02:26 ↗ feeling like five years went fast. Um

1:02:30 ↗ and I talked to that. Yeah.

1:02:33 ↗ >> Uh we kind of talked through that with

1:02:34 ↗ the board. Do we go to eight years?

1:02:36 ↗ There are some other cities that have

1:02:37 ↗ moved to 10 year. The urban forest

1:02:39 ↗ management plan is a 10-year plan. So we

1:02:42 ↗ felt like we have even if things are

1:02:45 ↗ changing at the state federal level um

1:02:48 ↗ we feel like we have a general sense of

1:02:50 ↗ what we need to be for the next

1:02:54 ↗ years um but abs we'll need those checks

1:02:57 ↗ throughout just to make sure

1:03:00 ↗ >> Alex you had a comment

1:03:03 ↗ >> yeah I support this being a 10-year plan

1:03:06 ↗ um especially because I looking through

1:03:09 ↗ it all of the start years are still

1:03:10 ↗ within in like the next 3 years. So, we

1:03:13 ↗ should have a good assessment by that

1:03:16 ↗ 5year

1:03:18 ↗ check-in point as to what's working and

1:03:20 ↗ what we need to update. Um, do you find

1:03:24 ↗ it realistic that all of these actions

1:03:27 ↗ will have been started by 2029?

1:03:31 ↗ Um, I know some of them are already

1:03:33 ↗ ongoing, programs and things like that.

1:03:35 ↗ Um, just kind of wanted to check in on

1:03:37 ↗ those timelines. I guess there's one

1:03:39 ↗ that's that's longer that I'm seeing

1:03:40 ↗ that starts in 2033. Um,

1:03:44 ↗ so just want to check on those dates.

1:03:47 ↗ >> Yeah, I think when we were uh mapping

1:03:49 ↗ out the dates in the implementation

1:03:51 ↗ plan, I think we felt comfortable with

1:03:53 ↗ the dates we put in there that at least

1:03:56 ↗ those longer term actions we could

1:03:58 ↗ initiate the feasibility study within

1:04:00 ↗ the next budget. And our intent is as we

1:04:03 ↗ go through the budget process this year

1:04:05 ↗ to ask for funding to initiate that

1:04:07 ↗ work.

1:04:08 ↗ Um I think if there's any actions a lot

1:04:11 ↗ of the work is underway in some form or

1:04:15 ↗ another. I think otherwise but yeah we

1:04:18 ↗ can do another pass through or if

1:04:20 ↗ there's any actions in there that the

1:04:22 ↗ board really questioning please like

1:04:25 ↗ those perhaps

1:04:28 ↗ I think this makes sense to going into

1:04:31 ↗ the budget year to have all of these

1:04:32 ↗ saying we're starting within nearly the

1:04:35 ↗ next bianium so then it can be planned

1:04:37 ↗ for budget-wise that's

1:04:48 ↗ I support it. Great job.

1:04:50 ↗ >> Yeah, thank you.

1:04:53 ↗ >> We'll add in that we talked about with

1:04:56 ↗ the wildfire that will be added into

1:04:58 ↗ theation plan that

1:05:03 ↗ >> well some of the language updates.

1:05:05 ↗ >> Yes.

1:05:07 ↗ Great. Um, before we move to

1:05:11 ↗ Google options, our next question is, is

1:05:14 ↗ there any other that you all have?

1:05:16 ↗ You've given some great feedback today

1:05:17 ↗ on additional sections we'll prepare,

1:05:19 ↗ but any other content you want to see?

1:05:24 ↗ Not

1:05:24 ↗ >> for me.

1:05:25 ↗ >> Couple of things I've been thinking

1:05:26 ↗ about. Um,

1:05:31 ↗ something that's not really addressed is

1:05:34 ↗ like re reducing consumption. There's

1:05:37 ↗ everything that's in here has got some

1:05:39 ↗ plan to increase efficiencies

1:05:42 ↗ to

1:05:44 ↗ um spend money to to

1:05:48 ↗ um improve efficiencies but there could

1:05:51 ↗ be gains done. We had some targets for

1:05:56 ↗ just reducing consumption

1:05:58 ↗ >> and um I was thinking looking at the

1:06:01 ↗ tree or sorry the um transportation

1:06:06 ↗ um

1:06:08 ↗ transportation and land use. Um you've

1:06:12 ↗ got a lot of targets there on on

1:06:15 ↗ increasing um

1:06:18 ↗ decreasing miles traveled. But you could

1:06:20 ↗ do a simple measure like you could set

1:06:22 ↗ targets for the number of vehicles

1:06:24 ↗ within the city limits and

1:06:28 ↗ reducing the number like

1:06:31 ↗ does every household need to have three

1:06:32 ↗ vehicles? Do they need to have three

1:06:35 ↗ vehicles plus an RV? you know, um

1:06:39 ↗ because that's that's a measure of

1:06:41 ↗ consumption

1:06:42 ↗ and

1:06:46 ↗ or or measuring the the um pavement area

1:06:51 ↗ that we have within the city.

1:06:53 ↗ Like we want to keep the pave want to

1:06:55 ↗ keep the uh have some targets for

1:07:00 ↗ we have certain amount paved area today

1:07:04 ↗ roads parking lots and we want to keep

1:07:09 ↗ keep it at that level or reduce it

1:07:12 ↗ instead of just but there's no measure

1:07:15 ↗ of that just a measure of like let's

1:07:17 ↗ let's get more people let's reduce you

1:07:20 ↗ know vehicle miles travel and things

1:07:21 ↗ like we are going to grow as a city but

1:07:24 ↗ um

1:07:26 ↗ um it may get very very dense and we

1:07:29 ↗ just um so just a different way of

1:07:32 ↗ thinking about it is is reducing

1:07:34 ↗ consumption and I I can walk through my

1:07:37 ↗ neighborhood I can see vehicles parked

1:07:40 ↗ in driveways that have never moved and

1:07:43 ↗ they're brand new they're they're nice

1:07:44 ↗ new vehicles

1:07:45 ↗ >> y

1:07:49 ↗ that's consumption that causes that

1:07:52 ↗ burns through resources.

1:07:55 ↗ The other I mentioned this before but um

1:07:58 ↗ materials and consumption um

1:08:02 ↗ talk about diverting more to the

1:08:03 ↗ landfills.

1:08:05 ↗ Um,

1:08:07 ↗ I don't know how to do this, but I like

1:08:09 ↗ to have some sort of targets for um

1:08:14 ↗ keeping our roadsides clean and like

1:08:19 ↗ um certain cities um and places have

1:08:23 ↗ gotten a lot worse over the years and

1:08:27 ↗ and this qua is not too bad, but there

1:08:29 ↗ are certain areas that are getting

1:08:31 ↗ worse. But um there are examples of of

1:08:35 ↗ of like the Seattle area has just gone

1:08:38 ↗ in the last 30 years has gotten really

1:08:40 ↗ bad. You know, a lot of lot of um

1:08:45 ↗ um materials that are tossed off along

1:08:48 ↗ the roadsides that are not being

1:08:50 ↗ removed. No. And there's no plan to

1:08:52 ↗ remove it. But we have a fixed

1:08:56 ↗ boundary to this city and we could set

1:08:58 ↗ some targets for um maintaining

1:09:03 ↗ um our the areas that we have and we

1:09:07 ↗ could set some requirements for our our

1:09:12 ↗ city to to to maintain these things. Um

1:09:18 ↗ um and then encourage, you know,

1:09:20 ↗ encourage um

1:09:23 ↗ encourage a culture of keeping our

1:09:29 ↗ environment clean of debris. I'm

1:09:33 ↗ thinking specifically of debris. I mean,

1:09:35 ↗ all this is about greenhouse gas, but I

1:09:38 ↗ can give you an examp like if you go

1:09:39 ↗ into Mexico, right? Um

1:09:44 ↗ um or you go to India that the cultures

1:09:47 ↗ you they don't even have trash you know

1:09:49 ↗ trash bins they just throw it out they

1:09:52 ↗ throw it out they drive down the road

1:09:53 ↗ and throw it in the weeds and

1:09:56 ↗ >> um we ought to have some targets uh to

1:09:59 ↗ to to try to keep keep our what we have

1:10:03 ↗ within this we've got a in a relatively

1:10:05 ↗ small town keep it keep it nice like I

1:10:09 ↗ was thinking later the other Hey, on 900

1:10:14 ↗ and I found a

1:10:17 ↗ vehicle

1:10:18 ↗ in Isqual Creek in the creek that feeds

1:10:21 ↗ uh Lake Spanish.

1:10:22 ↗ >> A whole vehicle.

1:10:23 ↗ >> A whole vehicle that's probably been

1:10:24 ↗ there for 10 years and but it's outside

1:10:27 ↗ the city limits. Just outside the city

1:10:30 ↗ limits. It's like

1:10:31 ↗ >> Did you record it? Report it to town. I

1:10:34 ↗ did.

1:10:34 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:10:36 ↗ But

1:10:37 ↗ we we have stretches of roads that I

1:10:41 ↗ could give you a map and we could we

1:10:44 ↗ could do some studies,

1:10:47 ↗ simple studies, you know, annually go

1:10:51 ↗ measure the amount of litter found on a

1:10:53 ↗ certain, you know, certain mile road and

1:10:57 ↗ and we try to keep it keep it under

1:10:59 ↗ control.

1:11:00 ↗ >> And they do that with the storm drains,

1:11:01 ↗ too, because you know that you can adopt

1:11:03 ↗ a storm drain in your neighborhood. So

1:11:05 ↗ there is a system that can be done, you

1:11:07 ↗ know, that would be an interesting thing

1:11:09 ↗ to adopt or pick up the trash in your

1:11:11 ↗ neighborhood like adopt a storm drain.

1:11:13 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:11:16 ↗ >> Yeah. Just um

1:11:18 ↗ if you if you don't do anything

1:11:21 ↗ >> Oh, I get it.

1:11:23 ↗ >> I think I mentioned this. I'm reading a

1:11:24 ↗ book onius Grant. He was we wrote to his

1:11:31 ↗ wife 150 years ago on his visit to uh

1:11:34 ↗ Mexico City and he said it was the most

1:11:36 ↗ beautiful place on earth and I don't

1:11:39 ↗ think it's that way today. I've never

1:11:41 ↗ been there but I've heard that it's the

1:11:43 ↗ most polluted place in the world and and

1:11:46 ↗ within 150 years it's gone from a

1:11:49 ↗ beautiful place to the most polluted

1:11:52 ↗ place and that's because there haven't

1:11:55 ↗ been people

1:11:59 ↗ focusing

1:12:00 ↗ the government probably had something to

1:12:02 ↗ do with that

1:12:03 ↗ >> and this is a government

1:12:06 ↗ I'm off my stuff

1:12:08 ↗ >> and I agree with you I mean if you

1:12:09 ↗ >> there's nothing not a lot in here about

1:12:11 ↗ that

1:12:12 ↗ >> I don't know if this is the place for it

1:12:14 ↗ or not but you could certainly mention

1:12:15 ↗ it here and then reference it over to it

1:12:16 ↗ helps support the other plans like the

1:12:18 ↗ transportation plan and the parks plan

1:12:21 ↗ um where they could do things like that

1:12:25 ↗ and the less waste you have on the

1:12:27 ↗ the less desire there is to throw out

1:12:29 ↗ more waste. It's a cyclical.

1:12:31 ↗ >> It's a culture.

1:12:32 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:12:36 ↗ >> Yeah. I was trying to see if there is a

1:12:37 ↗ way to fit it.

1:12:40 ↗ >> Who takes care of your like the more

1:12:43 ↗ formal streets, the sidewalks along FR

1:12:46 ↗ Street and Gilman? Is that the parks

1:12:48 ↗ department or

1:12:49 ↗ >> there are I mean they have they have a

1:12:51 ↗ pretty good plan. They have bins out.

1:12:55 ↗ >> Yeah. and they pick up things in the

1:12:57 ↗ bins and I can report to these and get

1:12:59 ↗ it picked up. But I'm I'm talking about

1:13:02 ↗ places that are not that are not

1:13:05 ↗ covered, you know, that are stretches of

1:13:08 ↗ State Route 900 or East Lake Samish,

1:13:11 ↗ people that was high traffic.

1:13:14 ↗ The neighborhoods are pretty good

1:13:15 ↗ because they're maintained by themselves

1:13:17 ↗ by the residents,

1:13:19 ↗ >> but it's the public areas that, you

1:13:21 ↗ know, say we have a light rail station

1:13:25 ↗ have to have that go.

1:13:31 ↗ >> I mean, that could fit under strategy

1:13:33 ↗ one, increasing waste diversion by

1:13:36 ↗ improving community waste collection.

1:13:38 ↗ It's probably worth it more versus

1:13:41 ↗ reducing the material.

1:13:44 ↗ >> You could say including ditch roadside

1:13:46 ↗ ditches. Is that where you find most of

1:13:47 ↗ it is roadside ditches?

1:13:49 ↗ >> That's where that's where the problems

1:13:50 ↗ are that are not being addressed.

1:13:53 ↗ >> Yes.

1:13:56 ↗ >> We want a new action.

1:14:01 ↗ >> Back up to the first one.

1:14:05 ↗ That's kind of f it's mostly focused on

1:14:09 ↗ getting recycling composting in multif

1:14:12 ↗ family commercial but we could expand

1:14:14 ↗ what's meant to that.

1:14:16 ↗ >> Alex has her hand up. Alex

1:14:19 ↗ >> I was just thinking on that first one

1:14:21 ↗ that could address John's ask for more

1:14:25 ↗ reduced consumption because it it's it's

1:14:27 ↗ focusing on outreach and education. So

1:14:29 ↗ maybe there's a

1:14:32 ↗ conduct reduce recycling and composting

1:14:34 ↗ outreach and education. Um so you're

1:14:36 ↗ gearing it towards less use overall

1:14:43 ↗ >> within this action.

1:14:44 ↗ >> Yeah. And within MC 1.1

1:14:48 ↗ seems like it could also include that

1:14:49 ↗ outreach and education around reducing

1:14:52 ↗ use of materials.

1:14:55 ↗ Um

1:15:01 ↗ proper litter.

1:15:12 ↗ There's another one. Uh was it in No, I

1:15:15 ↗ lost where it was that talked about

1:15:18 ↗ reducing pollutants to streams.

1:15:22 ↗ >> Yep, that's in the first one. That would

1:15:24 ↗ be a good one. Yeah.

1:15:25 ↗ >> Um, it could fit in there with litter.

1:15:29 ↗ Um, I think it's more aimed at chemicals

1:15:32 ↗ and things like that, but I don't know

1:15:34 ↗ if you could

1:15:36 ↗ include landbased pollutants there or

1:15:41 ↗ something like that.

1:15:42 ↗ >> Yeah, because if it gets into the

1:15:44 ↗ stream, could be plastic.

1:15:46 ↗ The fish could eat it. It could get out

1:15:48 ↗ into the ocean.

1:15:53 ↗ The birds could eat it

1:16:01 ↗ also be

1:16:04 ↗ a lot.

1:16:05 ↗ >> There is a increasing wildlife.

1:16:08 ↗ >> I Yeah, Alex. I like I feel like that

1:16:12 ↗ fits best because the climate connection

1:16:16 ↗ is a little

1:16:18 ↗ hard for this one, but it fits within

1:16:22 ↗ really the intent of OM1.7

1:16:26 ↗ and I think John brought that up at

1:16:28 ↗ other meetings um

1:16:30 ↗ about keeping like plastics for example

1:16:32 ↗ out of the street.

1:16:33 ↗ >> Yeah, you've got one there. Assess

1:16:35 ↗ potential for assembly plastic.

1:16:37 ↗ >> Yes. Yeah. But this could address kind

1:16:39 ↗ of thing.

1:16:40 ↗ >> But these I mean this kind of thing is

1:16:42 ↗ measurable. I mean we have a fixed

1:16:44 ↗ number of rivers and streams and ditches

1:16:46 ↗ and wetlands and we could go in to those

1:16:49 ↗ and and

1:16:52 ↗ assess them annually to see where we are

1:16:55 ↗ and make sure they're not getting out of

1:16:56 ↗ control.

1:17:02 ↗ Yeah.

1:17:06 ↗ Or you could require the city to go

1:17:08 ↗ clean up State Route 900 from, you know,

1:17:13 ↗ from a point to the

1:17:15 ↗ edge of town, you know, twice a year

1:17:19 ↗ instead of not doing it at all.

1:17:23 ↗ And you then you'd have to put funding

1:17:25 ↗ in to have them go do that.

1:17:28 ↗ >> But rather do that than because if you

1:17:30 ↗ let it pile up, people think it's cool

1:17:32 ↗ to just, oh, it's okay. I can throw

1:17:34 ↗ anything out here I want.

1:17:38 ↗ >> Yeah. Yeah. One time I was at it's like

1:17:40 ↗ the doggy bags, right? One time I was at

1:17:42 ↗ a trail head on on Cougar Mountain and

1:17:45 ↗ there was like this huge pile of green

1:17:48 ↗ doggy bags, you know, right under the

1:17:50 ↗ sign. It's like, "Oh, I guess this is

1:17:52 ↗ the place we can dispose of our doggy."

1:17:54 ↗ >> Yeah. They multiply.

1:18:00 ↗ Um well there's two potential areas we

1:18:03 ↗ can talk with Sam too and get her input

1:18:06 ↗ but maybe including in the outreach

1:18:08 ↗ within the materials and consumption

1:18:12 ↗ stream pollutants.

1:18:14 ↗ Um and then the other that total

1:18:18 ↗ vehicles so we do have a measure around

1:18:21 ↗ EVs registered in the city. Let me get

1:18:24 ↗ that. Yeah,

1:18:26 ↗ >> I think I think we can pull um also just

1:18:30 ↗ total vehicles per capita per capita

1:18:34 ↗ which could be really interesting um to

1:18:36 ↗ look at see if our populations going up.

1:18:39 ↗ Do we see more single vehicle

1:18:40 ↗ households?

1:18:46 ↗ >> You have a target if you're going to

1:18:48 ↗ build a whole bunch of apartments or

1:18:50 ↗ condos and apartments

1:18:55 ↗ numbers.

1:18:57 ↗ >> It does go into the action related to

1:18:58 ↗ parking minimums.

1:18:59 ↗ >> Yeah, that's what I say we are looking

1:19:01 ↗ at,

1:19:03 ↗ >> right? which is kind of a a way to get

1:19:06 ↗ at this

1:19:09 ↗ um item, right? In a way that the city

1:19:11 ↗ can control.

1:19:12 ↗ >> Yeah,

1:19:13 ↗ >> that would be just multi,

1:19:15 ↗ >> right?

1:19:16 ↗ >> So, we could look here with the high

1:19:18 ↗ priority measures.

1:19:20 ↗ >> You could probably get know exactly how

1:19:22 ↗ many vehicles are registered to owners

1:19:24 ↗ in the city pretty quick.

1:19:26 ↗ >> I think you could request that through

1:19:28 ↗ the DMV.

1:19:30 ↗ >> Yeah, DMV has on their website you can

1:19:32 ↗ pull EVs. I haven't looked at other

1:19:34 ↗ vehicles, but I'm sure

1:19:52 ↗ folks

1:19:58 ↗ are there, revisions

1:20:06 ↗ It's nice to see less pages. Is it like

1:20:09 ↗ >> we tried to cut out?

1:20:12 ↗ >> Um, yes. It's not format. It's down to

1:20:16 ↗ about 50, which the majority of that are

1:20:20 ↗ the targets and actions, but I think it

1:20:22 ↗ was 80 something.

1:20:26 ↗ >> I think it looks really good. You guys

1:20:27 ↗ done a good job.

1:20:28 ↗ >> Yeah, agree. What one of the thoughts I

1:20:30 ↗ wrote down when I got here is like what

1:20:33 ↗ does this cover and what does it not

1:20:36 ↗ cover? I can I mean if it that's kind of

1:20:39 ↗ related to the last discussions I've had

1:20:41 ↗ if it's you can have a section in there

1:20:43 ↗ says this covers greenhouse gas

1:20:45 ↗ emissions and

1:20:47 ↗ >> and that's the focus of this

1:20:50 ↗ >> primarily the air and water.

1:20:52 ↗ >> Um it does not cover solid waste or

1:20:56 ↗ something like that

1:20:57 ↗ >> that's covered here. It is not an

1:20:59 ↗ environmental plan.

1:21:00 ↗ >> Yeah, I think that's a good

1:21:02 ↗ >> what what is you know what does it

1:21:03 ↗ cover? What does it not cover?

1:21:08 ↗ >> Yeah. For climate change though mainly

1:21:12 ↗ resilience and reducing emissions. Yeah.

1:21:16 ↗ >> We'll check and make sure that's really

1:21:17 ↗ clear up summary. Yeah,

1:21:20 ↗ >> I think with the call to action too.

1:21:30 ↗ >> Yeah, everyone.

1:21:35 ↗ >> You have one second. I was just going to

1:21:37 ↗ help answer your question.

1:21:39 ↗ So, so our biggest impact for closing

1:21:43 ↗ that gap between the state

1:21:47 ↗ laws or rules um and reducing our

1:21:50 ↗ emissions that last little bit um is it

1:21:55 ↗ getting off of natural gas or what is

1:21:57 ↗ how can we influence as a city um

1:22:02 ↗ to fill that gap most? What is a what is

1:22:05 ↗ the biggest way to influence that?

1:22:07 ↗ >> Yeah. So the the biggest remaining

1:22:09 ↗ emissions uh 2030 even out to 2050 is

1:22:14 ↗ going to be natural gas use in buildings

1:22:17 ↗ and um continued um uh gas use in in

1:22:22 ↗ vehicles. Um and that is assuming the

1:22:26 ↗ full implementation of the clean energy

1:22:29 ↗ transformation act.

1:22:30 ↗ >> Right. I hope so.

1:22:33 ↗ >> Good to know.

1:22:36 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:22:44 ↗ Oh, I was just gonna say

1:22:50 ↗ >> way to go. Um, with the pool.

1:22:53 ↗ >> Oh, yes.

1:22:54 ↗ >> That's about 16% and that's all natural

1:22:56 ↗ gas. Yeah.

1:22:57 ↗ >> Oh, yeah.

1:22:59 ↗ >> Oh, yeah. Um, and that is it's a big uh

1:23:03 ↗ a big driver of uh reducing energy at

1:23:06 ↗ the pool. And um I think as we've talked

1:23:08 ↗ about electrifying the pool is a big a

1:23:11 ↗ very large project or or cutting natural

1:23:13 ↗ gas out of the pool. And so kind of

1:23:14 ↗ things like pool covers are um

1:23:19 ↗ are interim solution to to think about

1:23:21 ↗ driving down those uh costs and and

1:23:25 ↗ driving down those that natural gas

1:23:27 ↗ usage. And then there's a lot of

1:23:29 ↗ ancillary benefits beyond just uh

1:23:31 ↗ reducing the energy going into keeping

1:23:33 ↗ that pool water heated overnight when

1:23:35 ↗ it's not being used. But um they have to

1:23:38 ↗ put less um you know chlorine and and uh

1:23:42 ↗ things into the water because that's not

1:23:44 ↗ getting evaporated out. So there's a

1:23:45 ↗ whole host of other benefits too. Um

1:23:49 ↗ >> it's an exciting project. If you you

1:23:50 ↗ should go swimming and and check them

1:23:52 ↗ out on the wall. They're big. Yeah,

1:23:56 ↗ that's that was like $9,000 but or you

1:23:58 ↗ say $9,000

1:24:00 ↗ >> just in natural gas cost is the estimate

1:24:03 ↗ >> and even more because gas might be going

1:24:04 ↗ up pretty soon.

1:24:05 ↗ >> Exactly.

1:24:06 ↗ >> The UTC it

1:24:08 ↗ >> but um so and then PSC paid for 70% of

1:24:14 ↗ it. Is that right?

1:24:16 ↗ >> So

1:24:16 ↗ >> what did the city pay for it then? And

1:24:20 ↗ you're saving 9,000 a year. So do you

1:24:22 ↗ remember what the city

1:24:24 ↗ Yeah. So, the the city investment was

1:24:27 ↗ around uh three uh $30,000. Um and that

1:24:30 ↗ included a little electrical upgrades

1:24:32 ↗ necessary for the uh mechanics of the

1:24:36 ↗ pool covers themselves.

1:24:38 ↗ >> Um and so, you know, we're hoping

1:24:40 ↗ between energy saved, rising natural gas

1:24:44 ↗ costs, and then other uh savings

1:24:46 ↗ associated with the pool covers, lower

1:24:48 ↗ humidity, less chemicals, things like

1:24:50 ↗ that. um that it would be uh paid off in

1:24:53 ↗ just a couple of years.

1:24:57 ↗ >> So, if you go, it is fun to go in if

1:25:01 ↗ you're ever there right when they're

1:25:02 ↗ pulling them off in the morning at 4:00

1:25:03 ↗ a.m. or 5 a.m. But, um the pool feels

1:25:06 ↗ very different. Um the whole pool room

1:25:09 ↗ just because that heat is is so well

1:25:11 ↗ trapped under those covers.

1:25:13 ↗ >> So, is the room cooler is what you're

1:25:15 ↗ saying? Is it?

1:25:16 ↗ >> Yeah. That it it doesn't have that kind

1:25:19 ↗ of like humid hot feeling.

1:25:23 ↗ >> You're in a spa.

1:25:24 ↗ >> Exactly. And it it'll get there over the

1:25:26 ↗ course of the day, but when you go in

1:25:28 ↗ after the pool covers have been on all

1:25:29 ↗ night, it feels completely different.

1:25:31 ↗ >> Wow. That's cool.

1:25:32 ↗ >> Which is cool.

1:25:33 ↗ >> Great research finding the right one.

1:25:35 ↗ >> Yeah. Uh big props to our facilities

1:25:37 ↗ team helping us get that uh project

1:25:40 ↗ accomplished and the and the pool team

1:25:42 ↗ for um figuring out how to get them on

1:25:45 ↗ and working through it for for this pro

1:25:47 ↗ uh process. It's been a it's been a long

1:25:49 ↗ project, but I'm really excited to have

1:25:51 ↗ it out there.

1:25:56 ↗ >> Okay. Um our last questions for tonight

1:26:00 ↗ are how do we want to move forward? Um,

1:26:04 ↗ so I did want to just provide a little

1:26:07 ↗ context here. Um, we obviously have

1:26:10 ↗ changes uh proposed this evening. Three

1:26:13 ↗ new big sections. We'll be adding um a

1:26:16 ↗ few minor revisions to content. Um, so

1:26:19 ↗ we'll be working over that on that over

1:26:21 ↗ the next couple weeks and then

1:26:23 ↗ presenting to the committee of the whole

1:26:27 ↗ on May 11th. We're not planning to

1:26:29 ↗ present them a full plan, but a little

1:26:31 ↗ bit more of a background context and

1:26:33 ↗ proposed changes. Um, our next board

1:26:37 ↗ meeting is May 13th, so we won't have

1:26:39 ↗ time to make any changes between the

1:26:41 ↗ 11th and 13th. Um, May 13th will be our

1:26:46 ↗ first meeting with new members um who

1:26:49 ↗ have not been involved in this process

1:26:51 ↗ over the last year. Um, and then we

1:26:54 ↗ would probably be prepared to bring back

1:26:56 ↗ a full draft in our June meeting. So, I

1:27:01 ↗ just wanted folks to consider that as we

1:27:03 ↗ think about how we went forward with an

1:27:05 ↗ approval process. I realized what you've

1:27:07 ↗ seen is a very preliminary draft. Um,

1:27:11 ↗ but want you all to consider if you want

1:27:13 ↗ to provide a preliminary approval

1:27:15 ↗ tonight or with that we make the

1:27:18 ↗ changes, come back to you for a final

1:27:19 ↗ approval or if you want to not take any

1:27:22 ↗ action tonight and just request that we

1:27:24 ↗ bring back um the changes at the

1:27:28 ↗ most likely that June meeting. So, I'll

1:27:31 ↗ kind of we put a couple options here um

1:27:33 ↗ but open to the action. I'm fine with

1:27:36 ↗ the the option one of the tenative

1:27:39 ↗ approval of the plan based on what we

1:27:40 ↗ heard tonight and you guys making those

1:27:42 ↗ comments. There wasn't anything

1:27:44 ↗ drastically substantial in the comments

1:27:46 ↗ I heard tonight. Um but if council has

1:27:49 ↗ significant comments, I think we'd want

1:27:51 ↗ to see it again before it gets approved.

1:27:57 ↗ >> I would agree with that, but I would I'd

1:27:59 ↗ like to ask a question before I go all

1:28:01 ↗ the way with him. And that is likely our

1:28:04 ↗ approval will include a letter that

1:28:06 ↗ talks about like we've done in the past.

1:28:09 ↗ I'm just asking if this is how you're

1:28:10 ↗ planning on doing it as it moves forward

1:28:12 ↗ to the council for their action. It will

1:28:16 ↗ include So I' I'd like to have us see

1:28:18 ↗ that letter too about what we've done

1:28:21 ↗ and approve that. You see what I'm

1:28:23 ↗ saying? So that um if something comes up

1:28:25 ↗ from the committee of the whole or we

1:28:28 ↗ see something that changes at least we

1:28:30 ↗ have a chance to address it even in the

1:28:32 ↗ letter if we need to.

1:28:33 ↗ >> Yeah absolutely and what we could do is

1:28:35 ↗ at the May 11th um committee the whole

1:28:39 ↗ chair

1:28:41 ↗ initial verbal approval from the board

1:28:43 ↗ there'll be a formal recommendation

1:28:45 ↗ letter come to them when it goes to cons

1:28:48 ↗ approval. We don't know what the process

1:28:50 ↗ is going to look like after that May

1:28:52 ↗ 11th meeting. They may want us to come

1:28:54 ↗ go back to committee. They may want us

1:28:56 ↗ to present to council. They may say

1:29:00 ↗ bring in on consent. We're not sure. So

1:29:02 ↗ um yeah. So maybe at our June meeting

1:29:05 ↗ then we could have a draft

1:29:07 ↗ recommendation letter

1:29:08 ↗ >> um prepared.

1:29:10 ↗ >> Okay.

1:29:10 ↗ >> And you're thinking it'll go to council

1:29:12 ↗ for approval in June or July? June or

1:29:14 ↗ July is our goal of getting ahead of the

1:29:17 ↗ budget request and the council committee

1:29:21 ↗ um supported that timeline.

1:29:25 ↗ >> I agree with what he said with the

1:29:26 ↗ little bit that we talked about.

1:29:28 ↗ >> Caveat little bit of caveat.

1:29:31 ↗ >> I like it. verbal thumbs up approval of

1:29:35 ↗ content with the changes we'll be making

1:29:38 ↗ and

1:29:39 ↗ then coming back for review of the

1:29:42 ↗ recommendation letter. And

1:29:44 ↗ >> I saw Alex's hand flash there briefly.

1:29:47 ↗ Alex, do you have a comment?

1:29:48 ↗ >> I was just trying to read like give a

1:29:50 ↗ thumbs up, but it didn't work. So

1:29:53 ↗ >> I did the wrong thing. So yeah, I also

1:29:57 ↗ >> um I think what to our advantage um the

1:30:01 ↗ PTE council committee had three members

1:30:04 ↗ with new council members being appointed

1:30:07 ↗ that changed. So four council members

1:30:10 ↗ we've presented to on the PTE committee

1:30:13 ↗ >> and then we have council member Adair

1:30:15 ↗ and as of Monday council member Boy

1:30:18 ↗ we've been in front of when they were on

1:30:20 ↗ the parks and transportation board. So

1:30:23 ↗ this will not be new to them. Um all the

1:30:27 ↗ council members will be familiar with

1:30:29 ↗ either the previous plan or the updates

1:30:31 ↗ we've been through.

1:30:34 ↗ >> Okay, great. So we'll take that as a

1:30:37 ↗ tenative okay on content with the

1:30:40 ↗ proposed changes. Um we will come back

1:30:43 ↗ with a formal recommendation

1:30:46 ↗ letter for the board to approve. Um

1:30:50 ↗ again just that next step is we'll be

1:30:52 ↗ presenting something to the uh committee

1:30:56 ↗ of the whole main 11 um and then we'll

1:30:59 ↗ see where they want us to go from there.

1:31:02 ↗ >> Great. Back to the

1:31:07 ↗ >> I just noticed one thing. Yes.

1:31:08 ↗ >> So have the federal fuel economy

1:31:10 ↗ standards changed? Um that's in this

1:31:15 ↗ >> in the wage analysis.

1:31:16 ↗ >> Yeah. In the forecast greenhouse gas

1:31:18 ↗ emissions. Yeah, it's one of the

1:31:21 ↗ >> I don't know. Oh, go ahead.

1:31:22 ↗ >> Well, I was going to say so the wedge

1:31:24 ↗ analysis was completed um based on I

1:31:29 ↗ believe it was 2024 data um including um

1:31:35 ↗ policies and uh fuel standards and

1:31:38 ↗ things at that time. So, um,

1:31:42 ↗ generally our language around the wedge

1:31:43 ↗ analysis is that it's a point in time

1:31:45 ↗ estimate of where we're at and where

1:31:47 ↗ we're going. And, um,

1:31:50 ↗ uh, it is it is not going to be fully

1:31:52 ↗ accurate given kind of how the current

1:31:55 ↗ federal administration is implementing

1:31:58 ↗ federal uh, laws and regulations related

1:32:01 ↗ to clean energy and things like that.

1:32:03 ↗ And then you know um things will be

1:32:06 ↗ continuing to evolve as the state

1:32:08 ↗ changes their policies and and laws

1:32:11 ↗ similar um federal laws as well. And so

1:32:13 ↗ we um can do more wedge analyses in the

1:32:17 ↗ future for the greenhouse gas

1:32:18 ↗ inventories. Um yeah

1:32:20 ↗ >> I just remembered something after I said

1:32:22 ↗ that. So I was at um the good jobs green

1:32:25 ↗ jobs conference a long time ago in

1:32:27 ↗ Washington DC was talking to these steel

1:32:29 ↗ makers

1:32:30 ↗ >> and um they said like once they takes a

1:32:35 ↗ lot of effort to change the emissions

1:32:38 ↗ control in vehicles and there's you know

1:32:43 ↗ there's something you have to do with

1:32:45 ↗ the steel but once it's in there it's

1:32:47 ↗ probably not going to change.

1:32:49 ↗ So even if it changed, the policy

1:32:52 ↗ changed, car manufacturers aren't going

1:32:54 ↗ to go and like make a whole bunch of

1:32:56 ↗ changes.

1:32:57 ↗ >> I think the hope is that right car

1:32:58 ↗ manufacturers have that long-term vision

1:33:00 ↗ and um

1:33:02 ↗ >> well it would cost them money to change.

1:33:03 ↗ So

1:33:04 ↗ >> exactly and especially if those car

1:33:06 ↗ emission standards are going to come

1:33:08 ↗ right back up in a new administration,

1:33:10 ↗ why do it? So there's um

1:33:13 ↗ hopefully that's not going to we're not

1:33:15 ↗ going to see dramatic decreases in our

1:33:17 ↗ our mission standards or anything.

1:33:19 ↗ >> Um but

1:33:22 ↗ shall see what happens.

1:33:23 ↗ >> It may be a reason to

1:33:26 ↗ >> do another mission inventory office for

1:33:29 ↗ 26 and maybe keep on top of those

1:33:31 ↗ inventories for the next couple years as

1:33:33 ↗ we see things change.

1:33:35 ↗ >> Yeah. gas prices so high

1:33:38 ↗ people

1:33:40 ↗ >> that is absolutely something that is

1:33:42 ↗ being discussed in the climate world.

1:33:45 ↗ >> Yep.

1:33:46 ↗ >> Definitely drives demand and interest in

1:33:49 ↗ electric vehicles, less driving,

1:33:50 ↗ alternative methods of getting around.

1:33:53 ↗ Um,

1:33:55 ↗ >> buses.

1:33:57 ↗ >> Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:34:01 ↗ >> Yes. Yes. Yes.

1:34:02 ↗ >> Thought I'd point that out.

1:34:03 ↗ >> Is it Is it gonna happen? Well, it's

1:34:05 ↗ going across the lake. So, there's a big

1:34:07 ↗ step right now.

1:34:10 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:34:11 ↗ >> Across the lake.

1:34:11 ↗ >> Actually, there I had a big regional

1:34:13 ↗ meeting in Belleview where we had about

1:34:14 ↗ 55 people attend in person from all

1:34:16 ↗ around the area and about threequarters

1:34:19 ↗ of them came by ramp, which was nice to

1:34:20 ↗ see.

1:34:21 ↗ >> Wow. That's cool. That's good.

1:34:23 ↗ >> That's really cool.

1:34:24 ↗ >> Good to see.

1:34:26 ↗ >> Okay, we have a couple more items.

1:34:28 ↗ >> Yeah. Um, I'd like to take a few minutes

1:34:30 ↗ to recognize Jonathan and Ann. This is

1:34:33 ↗ their last environmental board meeting

1:34:34 ↗ with us. I want to thank you guys. I

1:34:37 ↗ hope

1:34:37 ↗ >> come back and visit us. You're welcome.

1:34:40 ↗ >> I very much hope to see you on the other

1:34:42 ↗ side as a as a as a commenter coming in

1:34:45 ↗ giving us feedback. Um and I hope you

1:34:47 ↗ stay involved in what happens in the

1:34:50 ↗ future. If you want to reapply for it,

1:34:52 ↗ certainly more than welcome. Got a

1:34:53 ↗ couple of certificates for you. So

1:34:56 ↗ Jonathan's been with us since

1:34:59 ↗ May of 2024.

1:35:01 ↗ things.

1:35:06 ↗ >> And

1:35:07 ↗ >> there's a $3,000 check behind me.

1:35:12 ↗ >> Ann's a she's been since January of 21.

1:35:16 ↗ So, thank you.

1:35:18 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:35:20 ↗ >> Really appreciate it. Um, it's been

1:35:24 ↗ such a gift to work with all you really

1:35:27 ↗ amazing

1:35:28 ↗ board members and

1:35:31 ↗ that and I've learned a lot. So, it's

1:35:35 ↗ been

1:35:37 ↗ >> going to be missed.

1:35:38 ↗ >> Much appreciated.

1:35:39 ↗ >> Yeah, I've learned a lot, too. It's it's

1:35:40 ↗ good. And I'm available for any other

1:35:43 ↗ things that you need done or anybody

1:35:45 ↗ else needs done. So, I'm very interested

1:35:49 ↗ in how I can help.

1:35:52 ↗ Thank you. In any capacity,

1:36:00 ↗ I have a couple

1:36:00 ↗ >> couple reports items. Um I mentioned

1:36:04 ↗ this very briefly at our last meeting,

1:36:07 ↗ but um we are considering a couple

1:36:10 ↗ changes to the board rules and

1:36:12 ↗ regulations.

1:36:14 ↗ One would be um as of now we elect our

1:36:18 ↗ chair and vice chair in May uh which we

1:36:21 ↗ have usually a new cohort of folks

1:36:24 ↗ coming in in May and so it doesn't

1:36:26 ↗ provide them an opportunity to get to

1:36:27 ↗ know the other board members before

1:36:29 ↗ voting on a chair or vice chair. Um

1:36:32 ↗ several other boards and commissions

1:36:34 ↗ have moved their elections to the fall.

1:36:37 ↗ Um, in talking with our clerks, we could

1:36:41 ↗ uh in May just defer our elections to

1:36:44 ↗ June without changing our rules or

1:36:46 ↗ regulations or we can change our rules

1:36:48 ↗ and regulations to vote in September or

1:36:51 ↗ October for our board and chair if we

1:36:53 ↗ prefer to do that. That would allow a

1:36:55 ↗ few months for our new members um to get

1:36:58 ↗ to know the other members before voting.

1:37:02 ↗ So, I wanted to see um first if that is

1:37:05 ↗ something we want to consider u

1:37:08 ↗ modifying our rules and regulations to

1:37:11 ↗ move the election till September or

1:37:13 ↗ October and if so, we can bring those

1:37:16 ↗ proposed changes to the next meeting.

1:37:18 ↗ >> I would support that.

1:37:20 ↗ >> Makes sense. Makes sense.

1:37:22 ↗ >> Is that in code?

1:37:24 ↗ >> It's in our rules and regulations. So,

1:37:26 ↗ it's not in city code, but it's

1:37:28 ↗ something we've amended. We amended our

1:37:30 ↗ virtual attendance policy and so I think

1:37:34 ↗ the chair signs off.

1:37:36 ↗ >> Okay,

1:37:37 ↗ >> looks good online. Alex Karen

1:37:41 ↗ >> to me.

1:37:42 ↗ >> Okay,

1:37:44 ↗ great. I can bring a track changes

1:37:46 ↗ version to the next meeting.

1:37:48 ↗ >> Um and then the other rules and

1:37:49 ↗ regulations change is there was folks

1:37:51 ↗ like this meeting room, the steel head

1:37:54 ↗ room. It's definitely a lot more

1:37:55 ↗ intimate. um easier for conver feels a

1:37:58 ↗ little easier for conversation. Um it

1:38:02 ↗ looks like the only

1:38:05 ↗ uh potential date would be the fourth

1:38:07 ↗ Wednesday of the month to meet in here

1:38:09 ↗ unless folks want to meet on Friday

1:38:10 ↗ evenings. Um so again, that would be I

1:38:16 ↗ um that would need to be an adjustment

1:38:18 ↗ to our rules and regulations if we want

1:38:20 ↗ to switch to meeting in this room. Um,

1:38:24 ↗ and we'd have to switch our meeting

1:38:27 ↗ date. Uh, we could I could bring a a

1:38:30 ↗ proposed change to our rules and

1:38:32 ↗ regulations next meeting, but we also

1:38:34 ↗ might want to check in with our new

1:38:36 ↗ members.

1:38:37 ↗ >> Yeah. Can we have that discussion at our

1:38:39 ↗ next meeting?

1:38:41 ↗ >> I have a question. How's that affect

1:38:43 ↗ your workflow? I mean, you guys are

1:38:44 ↗ going to council. What? So, if we move

1:38:47 ↗ to the last Wednesday, will that affect

1:38:49 ↗ how you present stuff to committee as a

1:38:51 ↗ whole or to council meetings? Does it

1:38:53 ↗ matter?

1:38:54 ↗ >> Not really. We don't we're not in front

1:38:56 ↗ of them that often. Um I anticipate we

1:39:00 ↗ if the new the policies were proposing

1:39:02 ↗ in the plan um are moving forward, we'll

1:39:05 ↗ be in front of them more, but it

1:39:07 ↗ impacting

1:39:08 ↗ >> I just didn't want you guys

1:39:11 ↗ >> change meeting dates. often we we take

1:39:14 ↗ what slots we can in front of council

1:39:17 ↗ and so um

1:39:18 ↗ >> it's usually a couple months

1:39:21 ↗ that time.

1:39:22 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:39:23 ↗ >> Yeah. Great question.

1:39:26 ↗ >> Um those group of two items and then a

1:39:30 ↗ brief update. Uh we had a new council

1:39:33 ↗ member appointed on Monday as I

1:39:35 ↗ mentioned. Erica Boyd, who is the chair

1:39:37 ↗ of the transportation advisory board, um

1:39:40 ↗ was appointed to council and I believe

1:39:42 ↗ her seat is through the 2027 election

1:39:46 ↗ certification.

1:39:48 ↗ Um

1:39:50 ↗ and then uh this Saturday,

1:39:52 ↗ sustainability fair for those that are

1:39:54 ↗ in town.

1:39:57 ↗ Um and then May 13th as our next

1:40:00 ↗ meeting. Um as we discussed, we'll bring

1:40:02 ↗ changes to some of the rules and

1:40:04 ↗ regulations. will be um welcoming new

1:40:07 ↗ board members and then David and I were

1:40:10 ↗ just chatting today because there's a

1:40:12 ↗ couple other agenda items that need to

1:40:14 ↗ be counted towards the summer, but we

1:40:16 ↗ thought we'd do a bit more of a deep

1:40:18 ↗ dive on city projects and community

1:40:21 ↗ programs. So the pool we were just

1:40:24 ↗ talking about, we can um share some more

1:40:26 ↗ about all the work that the city is

1:40:28 ↗ doing um to update facilities and

1:40:31 ↗ vehicles and

1:40:33 ↗ then on our Yep. share on our um

1:40:37 ↗ community programming as well.

1:40:39 ↗ >> So that sounds good.

1:40:44 ↗ >> Are we going to have mentors for new

1:40:46 ↗ members again like we've had in the

1:40:48 ↗ past?

1:40:49 ↗ >> Yeah. Have folks actually taken

1:40:51 ↗ advantage of that? Did your mentees

1:40:55 ↗ reach out?

1:40:56 ↗ >> Kar reached out to us

1:40:58 ↗ with it.

1:40:59 ↗ >> Okay.

1:41:00 ↗ >> Yeah, I think that would be great. Um,

1:41:03 ↗ we have all three of our alternates. Um,

1:41:07 ↗ so yeah, we can make those assignments.

1:41:08 ↗ Are you willing to be a mentor? Okay.

1:41:21 ↗ send that out. Um, and then I was gonna

1:41:24 ↗ see if Ann sent out great email about

1:41:27 ↗ the work she's been doing on her phone.

1:41:30 ↗ If you wanted just to talk a little bit

1:41:31 ↗ about that and then give John just a

1:41:33 ↗ minute to talk about the high school

1:41:34 ↗ student project.

1:41:37 ↗ >> Oh, yeah. So,

1:41:40 ↗ I didn't Sorry, John was here early, so

1:41:42 ↗ I warned him I was going to give him

1:41:44 ↗ time. So I I did more detail, but I just

1:41:46 ↗ thought email was so interesting. If you

1:41:49 ↗ want just to highlight what you shared.

1:41:51 ↗ >> Okay.

1:41:51 ↗ >> Just send if you want.

1:41:53 ↗ >> Do you want to go first?

1:41:54 ↗ >> You can go first. You're great.

1:41:56 ↗ >> Go ahead.

1:41:57 ↗ >> Okay. So I worked uh I do the litter

1:42:00 ↗ cleanup program once a month. Um trying

1:42:03 ↗ to figure out how to reduce litter. And

1:42:06 ↗ my thought is to help educate students

1:42:10 ↗ about layering and to talk to them about

1:42:15 ↗ not layering. And um when we were

1:42:18 ↗ children, there were PSAs, public

1:42:21 ↗ service announcements on television

1:42:23 ↗ about not layering. And those live with

1:42:26 ↗ me today. Um so I've going to the high

1:42:29 ↗ school um every year. I've done it for

1:42:32 ↗ three years. um about a month or so

1:42:36 ↗ before Earth Day and I go to the

1:42:38 ↗ graphics design class and engage with

1:42:40 ↗ the teacher there to give the students a

1:42:43 ↗ set of design requirements for posters.

1:42:46 ↗ We design posters for the elementary,

1:42:49 ↗ middle, and high school plus local area

1:42:52 ↗ businesses. And um I give them a short

1:42:55 ↗ presentation, tell them what I want,

1:42:58 ↗ what size format, what I want, roughly

1:43:00 ↗ what it should say, and you know what

1:43:03 ↗ the theme should be. And then they get

1:43:06 ↗ several weeks to work on it. And then I

1:43:08 ↗ take a group of people in um probably

1:43:12 ↗ three or four weeks after they've got

1:43:13 ↗ the requirements. I take uh usually I

1:43:16 ↗ like to take somebody from the city,

1:43:18 ↗ myself. Um this time I took a

1:43:21 ↗ professional graphic designer in and um

1:43:24 ↗ generally a person from Kuanas um

1:43:27 ↗ somebody that's participating these

1:43:28 ↗ events and then we'll look at the

1:43:30 ↗ posters and we ask the students to

1:43:32 ↗ present their material to us. We try to

1:43:35 ↗ run it like a project like a like a

1:43:37 ↗ business you know and then um we down

1:43:41 ↗ select they might have uh they might

1:43:43 ↗ work in teams and they might produce say

1:43:46 ↗ 15 different posters. We'll now knock it

1:43:50 ↗ down to say four or five and then we'll

1:43:52 ↗ we'll choose those and then we'll we'll

1:43:54 ↗ get get printed and then we'll hand them

1:43:58 ↗ back to the students to for them to

1:44:00 ↗ distribute to uh the schools in the

1:44:04 ↗ district and um through their usually

1:44:07 ↗ through their um eco club or through

1:44:11 ↗ their student body and then

1:44:16 ↗ and then I'll take a set of the posters

1:44:18 ↗ out and go to the fast food restaurants

1:44:20 ↗ and the coffee shops and the um gas

1:44:25 ↗ stations and auto parts stores and

1:44:27 ↗ places where we see a lot of litters

1:44:30 ↗ and and talk to the manager and ask them

1:44:33 ↗ to post it up to tell them that it was

1:44:36 ↗ produced by uh students and the the idea

1:44:40 ↗ is to to try to get the kids to think

1:44:42 ↗ about this. Uh really I'm trying to ed

1:44:46 ↗ I'm not trying to make posters. I'm

1:44:48 ↗ trying to educate the kids and let them

1:44:50 ↗ see their work displayed around town.

1:44:53 ↗ >> And then if I'll see a poster posted,

1:44:55 ↗ I'll take a photo of it and send it to

1:44:57 ↗ the teacher and I'll say, "Hey, check

1:45:00 ↗ this out." You know, six months later,

1:45:01 ↗ your poster is still hanging it in a top

1:45:04 ↗ pot donut center.

1:45:07 ↗ And uh so that's what we're doing. It's

1:45:10 ↗ this is the third year. Um, we just got

1:45:12 ↗ our posters done this time. Um, we have

1:45:15 ↗ five posters. Um,

1:45:18 ↗ this time they're kind of hard to see,

1:45:20 ↗ but here's one that says, "Earth Day is

1:45:22 ↗ every day. Uh, don't treat your planet

1:45:26 ↗ like a trash."

1:45:29 ↗ Okay. And the next one is um says,

1:45:32 ↗ "Nurture, don't litter." And it's got a

1:45:35 ↗ forum.

1:45:38 ↗ >> These are beautiful. You're so tired.

1:45:40 ↗ >> And then there's another one that says,

1:45:42 ↗ "Hey, wait." It shows it the Earth. It

1:45:45 ↗ says, um,

1:45:47 ↗ you know, please don't litter. Your

1:45:50 ↗ planet, your call. So, and this shows

1:45:54 ↗ the Earth in two states. One is where

1:45:56 ↗ we're at today with smoke stacks and

1:45:59 ↗ garbage and the other side is got, you

1:46:02 ↗ know,

1:46:04 ↗ um

1:46:06 ↗ clean energy solar panels, wind farms.

1:46:10 ↗ But u you know this these this is not

1:46:14 ↗ done with clip art. They're doing it by

1:46:15 ↗ hand. Especially this one. This one was

1:46:19 ↗ perfectly done. This person has

1:46:21 ↗ band-aids on their hands. One's got a

1:46:23 ↗ little heart on it.

1:46:25 ↗ for base, but they one of the

1:46:27 ↗ requirements is that states that they

1:46:29 ↗ designed it that graphic design.

1:46:33 ↗ So, um that's what we're doing.

1:46:36 ↗ >> That's cool.

1:46:38 ↗ >> My pocket. It's not much. Um and getting

1:46:42 ↗ distributed.

1:46:43 ↗ >> So,

1:46:44 ↗ >> I was able to nice today. I worked with

1:46:47 ↗ Vista Print, which is an online print.

1:46:50 ↗ And I told them what I was doing, and

1:46:52 ↗ they cut the cost in half.

1:46:54 ↗ That's great.

1:46:55 ↗ >> And that was all online. Just, you know,

1:46:58 ↗ >> you're printing all three out.

1:47:00 ↗ >> I'm actually going to print five. I

1:47:01 ↗ didn't show you the ones for the the

1:47:03 ↗ younger children.

1:47:04 ↗ >> Oh, cool. You could maybe send them to

1:47:06 ↗ us.

1:47:06 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:47:08 ↗ >> And I'm going to send them to the uh

1:47:10 ↗ Washington State uh Department of the

1:47:13 ↗ College.

1:47:14 ↗ >> I'm trying I'd like to do this across

1:47:17 ↗ the state, you know, have an annual

1:47:20 ↗ contest. I'd like to have the state, the

1:47:23 ↗ college do it. I'm trying to just give

1:47:27 ↗ them some ideas.

1:47:29 ↗ >> We need more PSAs to get the kids

1:47:32 ↗ engaged and thinking about

1:47:36 ↗ >> we need more Greta

1:47:38 ↗ >> Thornbergs.

1:47:40 ↗ What

1:47:40 ↗ >> kind of success have you had getting

1:47:42 ↗ businesses to put it up?

1:47:43 ↗ >> Um, it's it's um I'd say it's hit or

1:47:47 ↗ miss. a lot of the the companies or a

1:47:50 ↗ lot of the uh places won't do it just

1:47:53 ↗ because it's a

1:47:55 ↗ >> corporations,

1:47:58 ↗ >> right? It dep just depends on who you

1:47:59 ↗ talk to

1:48:00 ↗ >> and you know what manager you talk to.

1:48:03 ↗ But um but some of the places that

1:48:06 ↗ really you know really need it, you

1:48:09 ↗ know, they don't put it out. But uh I'll

1:48:12 ↗ I'll I'll hand it to him and I'll I'll

1:48:15 ↗ you know leave it leave it with him. I

1:48:17 ↗ said if you don't hang us up please give

1:48:19 ↗ it to uh somebody who will you know give

1:48:22 ↗ it to somebody to give to a child

1:48:26 ↗ young adult

1:48:28 ↗ somebody that can have a look at. So

1:48:31 ↗ >> cool. But yeah, I still see a few of

1:48:33 ↗ them hanging up around town and um it uh

1:48:37 ↗ I'm going to go back it that's fairly

1:48:40 ↗ easy to go in and talk to these people

1:48:41 ↗ and get them to

1:48:43 ↗ >> So I've used more than one.

1:48:46 ↗ >> That's

1:48:48 ↗ good job. It's super cool.

1:48:51 ↗ >> All right. Well, um my project, so um my

1:48:56 ↗ forest steward, green forest steward

1:48:58 ↗ buddy invited me to um an REI

1:49:02 ↗ presentation of um wildfire mitigation

1:49:05 ↗ that was given by Cat Robinson from

1:49:07 ↗ Eastside Fire and Rescue um year and a

1:49:10 ↗ half ago or so, maybe two years. And

1:49:13 ↗ then um from that I learned about this

1:49:16 ↗ cost share program that um King

1:49:19 ↗ Conservation District uh shares with

1:49:23 ↗ whoever I think basically. And um then

1:49:27 ↗ in May uh Cat Robinson from East Side

1:49:30 ↗ Fire and Rescue came out to our house

1:49:32 ↗ because that's in our area that's who

1:49:33 ↗ you start with and um she gave us an

1:49:36 ↗ assessment and we came up with she came

1:49:38 ↗ up with a plan and it was kind of fun.

1:49:41 ↗ Then also um Pyro7 came out and did

1:49:46 ↗ >> Yeah, I I g I forwarded that to you all

1:49:49 ↗ a while ago, but if you're interested I

1:49:50 ↗ can save it again.

1:49:52 ↗ >> Yeah. So they um they came out and did a

1:49:55 ↗ photo shoot and put it on the news and

1:49:59 ↗ um and then we worked with uh Nala from

1:50:04 ↗ or um

1:50:06 ↗ I'm forgetting her name right now but

1:50:08 ↗ anyway, King Conservation District and

1:50:11 ↗ uh they have specific things that you

1:50:13 ↗ can do for their cost share and she came

1:50:15 ↗ out told us the things that would be

1:50:17 ↗ best and so we did those things. Um, and

1:50:21 ↗ there's some great before and after

1:50:22 ↗ photos of that. Um, and uh, so we put we

1:50:28 ↗ we chose three of the projects and we

1:50:31 ↗ did a lot of the work ourselves. We

1:50:33 ↗ saved a lot of money, but they still

1:50:34 ↗ paid in kind $25 an hour to um you when

1:50:38 ↗ you do the work yourself and then you

1:50:40 ↗ can also hire contractors to do the

1:50:42 ↗ work. So the only thing we hired a

1:50:45 ↗ contractor for was um the front porch.

1:50:48 ↗ we replaced that and they pay for just

1:50:51 ↗ the first foot. But the first foot is a

1:50:53 ↗ lot because um you also you you not only

1:50:57 ↗ have to use um class A fire rated um

1:51:00 ↗ decking uh you also have to put metal um

1:51:05 ↗ up 6 in

1:51:08 ↗ um at least we did farther and then down

1:51:10 ↗ 6 in and then also on the joists. So,

1:51:14 ↗ um, so if a ember comes and hits the

1:51:19 ↗ bottom of your house, then, um, there's

1:51:22 ↗ no way that it can sit on anything and

1:51:23 ↗ burn.

1:51:24 ↗ >> So, embers can fly for up to 25 miles,

1:51:27 ↗ actually,

1:51:29 ↗ >> which is not good. Um, and then the

1:51:33 ↗ other projects we did was um putting

1:51:36 ↗ gravel all around 5t out. You have to go

1:51:39 ↗ 5t out, at least 2 to 3 in. Um, and

1:51:43 ↗ then, uh, we also put a skirt. So, um,

1:51:48 ↗ around the house you either have to put,

1:51:50 ↗ they were suggesting the 1/8 inch metal,

1:51:53 ↗ but part of our, um, you know, wire,

1:51:55 ↗ it's called a wire or cloth. Um, but,

1:51:59 ↗ um, we did black metal on a lot of ours

1:52:02 ↗ cuz we have an opening that's like seven

1:52:04 ↗ feet and, you know, you don't really

1:52:06 ↗ want to look underneath your house. So,

1:52:09 ↗ um, so, so yeah, no embers are going to

1:52:11 ↗ get under our house and if they hit the

1:52:13 ↗ house, they're going to fall out, um,

1:52:15 ↗ onto, um, the gravel, so they're not

1:52:18 ↗ going to burn. And also then, if we're

1:52:21 ↗ out barbecuing or something and, uh, an

1:52:24 ↗ ember goes out, it's just going to fall

1:52:26 ↗ on something that's nonflammable,

1:52:29 ↗ um, like the gravel. Anyway, so worked

1:52:31 ↗ with King Conservation District, got

1:52:33 ↗ everything checked off, and, um, they

1:52:35 ↗ pay for up to 75%

1:52:38 ↗ of uh the project. So, we maxed it out.

1:52:42 ↗ Um you know, we spent like $8,000 and

1:52:45 ↗ they gave us $5,000.

1:52:47 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:52:48 ↗ >> Did that only apply because you live

1:52:50 ↗ outside the city? Are you in King like

1:52:53 ↗ No. Would they cover me if I did this in

1:52:55 ↗ Isiqua?

1:52:56 ↗ >> Absolutely.

1:52:57 ↗ >> Yeah. It's it's King County.

1:52:59 ↗ >> Okay. King conservation district. I'm

1:53:01 ↗ one of the

1:53:03 ↗ advisory board members for Belv

1:53:06 ↗ and

1:53:07 ↗ >> yeah, they have a ton of programs. Go

1:53:08 ↗ look on their website.

1:53:09 ↗ >> So, I could actually get some help to

1:53:11 ↗ get my trees trimmed.

1:53:13 ↗ >> Yeah, they do. They have a forest they

1:53:14 ↗ have a forest management program, but I

1:53:16 ↗ don't know if they offer tree trim.

1:53:19 ↗ >> I mean, there's a lot of tree limbs

1:53:21 ↗ >> through the fire thing. Yeah.

1:53:22 ↗ >> Yeah, it is part of it. Yeah. So you

1:53:25 ↗ could have hire an arm race to trim out

1:53:27 ↗ to 30 feet, but they probably want you

1:53:30 ↗ to do this other home hardening things

1:53:31 ↗ if you have to have an army done first

1:53:33 ↗ because start with the beginning.

1:53:36 ↗ >> Yeah, I'm just looking at their website

1:53:37 ↗ right here. So it looks pretty easy. You

1:53:38 ↗ can just go on and they have a

1:53:40 ↗ application you just start filling out.

1:53:42 ↗ >> They'll get a hold of you and go there.

1:53:46 ↗ >> Yeah, thank you for telling us. I was

1:53:47 ↗ thinking about, you know, in our

1:53:49 ↗ neighborhood, everybody's got cedar

1:53:50 ↗ fences and they they're just like w that

1:53:52 ↗ connect

1:53:53 ↗ >> taking the fence down. That's another

1:53:54 ↗ thing. So, we did end up taking the

1:53:56 ↗ fence down, but that was outside the 5T.

1:53:59 ↗ Um, I also wanted to say that we're

1:54:01 ↗ continuing this by I filled out the

1:54:03 ↗ paperwork um with East Fire and Rescue

1:54:06 ↗ for the community. So, we're going to

1:54:08 ↗ gather our whole neighborhood and come

1:54:11 ↗ up with a community plan. Cool. which

1:54:13 ↗ for us is really good because there's

1:54:15 ↗ already been three house fires and um

1:54:19 ↗ they have we don't have any fire

1:54:20 ↗ hydrants so they have to bring like nine

1:54:23 ↗ um fire trucks out to fight the fire.

1:54:26 ↗ >> Wow.

1:54:30 ↗ >> Thank you. Anything else?

1:54:34 ↗ >> Thanks for letting us share. Thank

1:54:35 ↗ >> you. Appreciate it.

1:54:37 ↗ >> Thanks for doing

1:54:38 ↗ >> and if you guys want to do some other

1:54:40 ↗ poster project next year. Yeah,

1:54:43 ↗ >> think about it.

1:54:44 ↗ >> Sounds good.

1:54:45 ↗ >> It would be cool.

1:54:46 ↗ >> Yeah,

1:54:48 ↗ >> something around sustainability or

1:54:51 ↗ >> thank the kids.

1:54:51 ↗ >> Climate action plan.

1:54:52 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:54:57 ↗ >> Thank you everybody.

1:54:58 ↗ >> Thank you everybody.

1:55:00 ↗ >> What are you think What are you gonna do

1:55:01 ↗ with all your free time now?

1:55:04 ↗ and

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