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Monday, March 23, 2026

7:00 PM · 1h 51m
Topic tracked across meetings:
Potential Park Bond Renewal, Nov. General Election Ballot Item AB 9193 1/6
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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Draft minutes of February 24th, 2026
packet pp.3–10
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 02-24-26 Park Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave February 24, 2026 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
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Park Bond Renewal
Discussion / Action · Jeff Watling · packet pp.11–25
Topics: Parks
Staff report:
Items • Issaquah Park Bonds - History • Park Bond Renewal proposed timeline • Revenue Opportunities • Potential Project Considerations
5. REPORTS
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Director's Report Updated workplan to include Park Bond Renewal
packet pp.27–28
Topics: Parks
Staff report:
Applicable Strategic Plan Goal Areas 2026 WORKPLAN [WORKING] Proposed Meeting (check all that apply) PARK BOARD Schedule ☒Mobility ☒Social & Economic Vitality ☒Growth & Development ☒City Leadership & Services Tentative Timeframe ☒Environ. Stewardship ☒Infrastructure
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Chairperson's Report
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Youth Advisory Report
0:00 It is 7:01 on Monday, March 23rd
0:06 um for the meeting of the Isqua Park
0:09 Board. Like to call it to order. Start
0:12 with a roll call.
0:19 We'll go with Marlene Waxi
0:21 >> here.
0:24 >> Uh
0:26 Jane Takushi
0:28 >> here. here.
0:30 >> Diana Ren
0:33 >> here.
0:37 >> And Nove.
0:40 >> Hi guys.
0:42 >> Tim Mley prescell
0:52 here.
0:53 >> David Lou.
0:56 Ryan Olsen. I'm here.
0:59 And I do not see Mark
1:05 or Jeff renewal
1:08 said he was going to be virtually. He
1:09 might be a few minutes late.
1:14 >> Excellent. We have no voting action, so
1:16 I don't think we need a forum. Correct.
1:20 Um,
1:23 has everyone had a chance to review the
1:25 meeting uh minutes from the February
1:27 24th
1:29 park board?
1:32 So, are there any ideas? Any corrections
1:34 or edits?
1:37 Excellent. The minutes are approved.
1:42 I do see some names I'm not familiar
1:44 with on the line, I believe. Is there a
1:46 public comment?
1:49 If so, thank you. Will I I'll call on
1:52 you each and if you could try to keep
1:55 your comments to under five minutes,
1:57 that would be great. And I think Steve
1:59 Pereira, you hit your hand up first.
2:05 >> Unmute him.
2:06 >> Hi, I've unmuted myself. I don't know if
2:08 you good folks can hear me.
2:10 >> That's perfect, Steve. Great.
2:12 >> Thank you. I appreciate that. So, I sent
2:14 in some comments earlier and I don't
2:16 want to repeat what I've said. I guess
2:19 just kind of background and context. I
2:21 guess before I get to that, I always
2:22 like to start by saying thank you to
2:24 each of you for your service to Isqua
2:27 and this board for dedicating your time
2:29 and effort to help Isizua become a
2:32 better place. Uh, that's should always
2:35 go without saying and probably doesn't
2:36 get said enough. So, thank you to you
2:39 good folks for volunteering on our
2:41 behalf. Uh that's a jumping in again. I
2:45 I sent in some comments earlier and I
2:46 don't want to take I just point them out
2:48 and ask you read them and uh consider
2:52 them in your deliberations.
2:54 I guess my context at this time is that
2:58 in the park bond board levy issues
3:03 you're looking at you a certain number
3:05 of items have been proposed for possible
3:07 consideration.
3:08 Uh I guess what I'm not understanding is
3:12 the context in which why these
3:15 particular items were put forward as
3:18 wanting to approve or what's the
3:20 priority of items that come through the
3:22 park board for getting considered or
3:25 approved
3:27 of and I'm going to just use an example.
3:29 The one thing that is really high on my
3:31 list is the e house confluence park
3:34 renovations.
3:36 To me, that just seems like a high
3:38 priority item should be based on city
3:40 existing funds, not based on
3:45 if the city t city
3:49 taxpayers will pay for it to be
3:52 prioritized, we'll do it. If not, we're
3:54 probably not going to get around to it.
3:56 I just want to understand the context of
3:57 what the priority is though overall.
4:00 What gets approved, how gets approved,
4:02 how things get prioritized or not
4:04 prioritized.
4:07 some some of the items on the list I
4:09 just don't understand like the dog park
4:12 that all is all on there but
4:14 uh something most of the items on there
4:16 I don't see as
4:19 taxpayers wanting to spend extra money
4:22 for I'm just only speaking for myself. I
4:26 just again I wanted to understand and
4:27 look at what the prioritization of items
4:30 that get onto the workload plan and
4:35 as this goes through the public process.
4:37 Worksh just starting now that needs to
4:40 be better understood by I guess both by
4:43 myself and by taxpayers. So I'll wrap up
4:46 with those general comments. Thank you
4:47 for your time again. I appreciate it.
4:50 And I don't see an option to lower my
4:52 hand. So if there's a way to do that,
4:56 >> we got you Steve.
4:58 >> Steve, thank you very much. Ryan, if I
4:59 could just add um again you referenced
5:03 your email, Steve. Thanks so much for
5:04 sending that. If you would like, uh, we
5:06 can add that your email to the meeting
5:08 minutes just so that's on the record.
5:10 Um, that includes more of your comments.
5:14 So, we'll plan on doing that.
5:16 >> Thank you.
5:17 >> And I will touch on uh prioritization uh
5:20 process uh in the presentation coming
5:22 up.
5:26 >> Thank you. I appreciate it. Is there any
5:30 other public comment?
5:42 All right. Well, thank you for those
5:43 that uh were able to provide your public
5:45 comment. Much appreciated.
5:49 Um and with that, we'll move on to
5:51 regular business.
5:53 First order of business is the park bond
5:56 renewal presentation by Jeff Wallally.
5:59 >> All right. Thank you. Um, Robin, thank
6:02 you for sharing
6:04 >> screen and queuing that up. As she's
6:06 queuing it up, I want to introduce Laura
6:08 Hos, our department operations
6:10 specialist. Laura is in her
6:12 >> third week.
6:14 >> Third almost
6:15 >> fourth week. Just started the fourth
6:16 week. Uh, great to have her on board.
6:19 Maybe we could go around and do
6:20 introductions um for during good of the
6:23 order at the end of the meeting. That
6:24 would be fantastic. And Laura can share
6:27 a little bit about herself as well. but
6:29 excited to have have her on board.
6:31 >> Thank you.
6:32 >> All right. Well, thank you so much. Um
6:34 thanks Robin for for sharing the the
6:37 presentation. Uh tonight, uh we had this
6:39 one item. Um hopefully we'll have a
6:43 rather robust conversation. Um if you
6:46 recall the February meeting, Mayor
6:48 Mullet joined us. Uh, Mayor Mullet had
6:51 um taken took the opportunity to
6:53 introduce uh the opportunity we have um
6:56 at the end of this year when we have a
6:59 uh some prior park bond funds expiring
7:03 um um at the end of the year uh to to
7:06 strongly consider doing a renewal on
7:08 that park bond. What that would mean
7:10 would be um is utilizing the same levy
7:13 rate um uh for that expiring bond and
7:17 asking voters if they would like to
7:18 renew that um and keep that same levy
7:21 rate and do another u wave of
7:23 investments uh within uh within the park
7:26 system. Um if you want to go next slide,
7:29 Robin. Um
7:32 tonight I I really want to kind of talk
7:34 a little bit about a number of things.
7:36 first a little bit of the history of
7:37 park bonds here in Isiqua. Um um and
7:41 then talk about the proposed timeline as
7:44 we consider this and as city council
7:45 considers this. Um I'm scheduled to go
7:48 to council um and uh start talking about
7:51 this with them um at the April meeting
7:54 um April 6th meeting. So uh your
7:57 feedback tonight, your thoughts,
7:58 comments will be very very helpful and
8:00 informative to me. I will talk a bit
8:02 about uh the revenue opportunity and
8:04 what that means and how we might
8:06 leverage some additional revenues um um
8:09 on top of that levy renewal or the bond
8:11 renewal. Uh then we'll talk uh about
8:15 prioritization and and considerations
8:17 and uh why uh the items that were at
8:21 least uh example items that were
8:23 provided last month and we'll start
8:25 talking about in detail how they got
8:27 there. Uh these didn't just come out of
8:29 thin air. We've had a lot of public
8:31 engagement over the last several years,
8:33 namely with the park plan and a number
8:35 of other things that the community has
8:37 clearly shared with us. Uh what are what
8:39 are some priorities to them? Uh so
8:42 really want to um dive into some
8:44 discussion and get some feedback from
8:45 you all on that. Um also throughout the
8:49 as we sort of wrap up with questions and
8:51 discussion um I'm hoping to have a
8:53 chance to hear from all of you. I know
8:55 at the February meeting um I invited you
8:58 this is now a public discussion so as
9:01 you've maybe had conversations within
9:02 your uh neighborhood uh within your
9:06 spheres of influence uh would love to
9:08 get a sense of the feedback you're um
9:11 you're hearing on all of this. So that's
9:13 tonight. Uh next slide.
9:17 So pork bonds are not um are not foreign
9:20 here in Isiqua. Uh in our recent
9:23 history, there have been two bonds that
9:24 that have been passed. Uh this community
9:27 has shown a um um a level a high level
9:33 of support for those bonds. In 2006,
9:35 there was a $6.25 million bond focused
9:39 primarily on land acquisition, uh
9:41 trails, and some uh park renovations.
9:45 um uh historically I can u um find out
9:50 specifically what those went to. I
9:52 apologize I don't have those tonight. Um
9:54 and then in 2013 there was a $10 million
9:57 park bond uh that the community improve
9:59 approved. Uh both of these uh I think
10:02 were approved by well over 65 or 70% um
10:06 of voter approval. Uh the 2013 bond um
10:11 half of that bond, five million of that
10:12 went towards renovations of the Julius
10:14 Bone Pool. Uh those renovations were
10:16 primarily
10:18 um uh within the systems themselves. Um
10:22 improving uh water systems, pump
10:24 systems, a lot of sort of necessary nuts
10:27 and bolts that were really needed at the
10:28 time for that that pool. Um um also a
10:32 number of park projects. Um um um a
10:37 million dollars of that 10 million uh
10:39 was for the turf fields at u Central
10:42 Park Pad 1 uh that helped fund that
10:44 project. Some additional funding was
10:46 needed to to complete that work. Uh the
10:49 bridge you see the photo uh that that
10:51 phase of Confluence Park was part of
10:53 that $10 million bond in 2013 as well.
10:56 And then here we are uh fast forward 13
10:58 years later in 2026 uh with an
11:01 opportunity to again engage the
11:03 community and ask this question. Are are
11:06 they interested in um another um another
11:10 bond to um further investments into
11:14 their um and your park system?
11:17 >> Quick question. Yeah. dates time bound
11:21 got to use the money within a you know
11:23 10 12 13 year window or uh are they
11:27 open?
11:28 >> They're they're how do you say this? Um
11:32 they're time bound in a sense and that a
11:35 bond um bonds really um invest in
11:40 one-time capital projects. Usually a
11:42 bond isn't for ongoing programmatic
11:44 operational
11:46 support, right? And so um time bound in
11:50 hey here's the list of projects that we
11:53 want to complete uh with those bond
11:55 funds. So once those projects are
11:57 complete you've expended the bond funds
12:00 if that if that makes sense. It's not
12:02 it's not a whereas
12:04 >> um an ongoing levy uh would be sought
12:08 for operational
12:11 you know operational investments um
12:13 paying for you know recreation programs
12:16 or maintenance of of parks
12:19 but if it didn't get spent on X project
12:22 it would still be available.
12:25 I'm just trying to understand if there's
12:26 a expiration date on these things. Um,
12:31 I'll I'll I'll confirm that. I would say
12:34 no, but again, there's not there's not
12:37 proceed there's not leftover proceeds
12:39 from from these projects,
12:42 if you will. Yeah. But yes, it
12:46 I'll I'll confirm that. I I know I
12:50 arrived in 2016 after the after the park
12:53 bond was passed. Um, as we were
12:55 completing those projects, um, uh, some
12:59 of you may remember this. We sent out a,
13:01 um, postcard to residents, um, sort of
13:04 celebrating, hey, the bond has been
13:06 completed. Um, um, we took that $10
13:10 million bond, um, got additional grant
13:13 funding, got additional funding to
13:16 complete, uh, the the all the projects
13:19 on that list, which in total ended up
13:21 being about $16 million. So, um, I guess
13:26 again, I hope I'm not being too
13:27 confusing, but there's not like a
13:29 leftover money from that $10 million.
13:32 >> Okay, fair enough.
13:37 >> So, an idea of a timeline as we look
13:41 ahead. um if if a goal is to take
13:44 something to the voters um in November
13:47 at the general election, sort of working
13:50 backwards, um we've got some pretty
13:52 important dates to hit. Um uh we're
13:55 obviously having our conversation
13:56 tonight uh with you all uh to to further
13:59 discuss um this concept and this idea um
14:03 April 6th. So in two weeks um I'll be
14:06 presenting
14:08 um similarly to city council and
14:10 beginning to get uh more focused
14:13 feedback from them uh in terms of uh
14:16 questions they might have, level of
14:17 interest they might have in further
14:19 pursuing this. Uh there's a city council
14:22 retreat in early May. Um is likely will
14:25 be a continuation of those
14:27 conversations. Um as we head into the
14:29 summer months, really May, June, and
14:31 July. Um if if we are pursu continuing
14:34 to pursue this idea of a bond renewal
14:36 will be really really important months
14:38 for community engagement, um um
14:41 education, sharing um etc. Um by the end
14:45 of July, um city council will need to
14:49 make a formal decision uh because to to
14:52 hit a general election, um we would need
14:55 to have our information, the ballot,
14:57 specific ballot language and information
14:59 to King County elections um in early
15:02 August.
15:08 So before we start talking about uh
15:10 projects and expenditures, let's just
15:12 talk a little bit about revenue and and
15:14 what potential order of magnitude we're
15:16 talking about. So um these are still
15:20 being worked on uh by finance. I've had
15:22 a chance to meet with our finance
15:23 director. Um um she as well is is
15:27 getting some advice from bond counsel.
15:29 We don't sell our own bonds. Bonds are
15:32 something that um professional firms um
15:35 do on behalf of of cities. Um and
15:38 looking at uh the levy rate uh that's
15:41 about to expire um uh we're looking at
15:44 an order of magnitude um given that the
15:47 city is bigger now um um of a $17.3
15:51 million
15:53 um um in proceeds from that from that
15:56 bond renewal. Um, we also have, and I
16:00 think you're aware as we've talked
16:01 through park system plan and our other
16:04 revenue sources, a developer impact fees
16:07 have been collected over the last number
16:09 of years, we have a balance about three
16:10 $3 million in developer in park impact
16:14 fees uh that have been collected. um
16:17 given the projects that have been
16:19 prioritized by the community in our in
16:21 our park plan which are now being
16:23 considered for this this bond renewal um
16:26 all of those have a capacity building
16:28 nature. So the the rule with park impact
16:30 fees is they need to pay for capacity
16:34 additional capacity into the system and
16:36 so as we look at these list of projects
16:39 many if not most do um add capacity. So,
16:43 um, utilizing those developer impact
16:45 fees is a real opportunity here to to
16:47 further leverage funds. We also think
16:50 there given the list of projects that
16:52 are being considered, um, ample grant
16:54 opportunities um, conservatively, um, I
16:57 will admit uh, we think we could get
17:00 another $3 million um, at least in uh,
17:03 grant revenues um, as we um, um, should
17:08 this bond be approved. So that 17
17:10 million could be more in the
17:11 neighborhood of the mid20 million as we
17:14 start looking at size and scale of of
17:17 potential projects and potential um
17:20 investment level.
17:23 Next slide.
17:26 So how do we consider these projects?
17:28 And I think we heard this question in
17:29 the public comment and I think it's a
17:31 really really important one. Um you know
17:33 to consider a a bond renewal um and do
17:37 this work in a year. Thankfully, we're
17:38 not starting from scratch and we don't
17:40 do not want to start from scratch and
17:42 just say, "Hey, what projects do we want
17:44 to consider? Let's let's utilize the
17:46 work that's been done. Uh the community
17:49 outreach that's been done, uh the park
17:51 system plan, uh that we all worked on,
17:54 that you all worked on, that city
17:55 council adopted in 2024,
17:59 um identified projects, a number of
18:01 projects, um um and then prioritized
18:05 those projects and if you recall
18:07 developed near-term priorities, midterm
18:10 priorities, and long-term priorities.
18:12 So, the projects that uh mayor and I
18:15 just even showed as some example
18:18 projects to consider um come right off
18:20 of that were identified as near-term
18:22 prior priorities. Um uh we also have an
18:26 adopted, if you recall, um the city
18:28 adopts a capital improvement plan every
18:30 two years and renews it every two years.
18:33 So, the park CIP um also has uh these um
18:38 um a number of these priorities, not all
18:40 of them because uh there's not enough
18:42 funding uh to to do all this work. Um I
18:45 think another realization that uh I
18:47 think we need to consider um as we think
18:50 about uh this bond renewal is um all
18:54 that that amount of revenue in the bond
18:56 renewal will not fully fund the
18:58 near-term priorities that have been
19:00 identified by the by the community. And
19:02 so there will need to be some
19:03 prioritization
19:05 um um as to what uh what is considered.
19:08 And so along with the park plan, along
19:10 with the six-year CIP um and we talked a
19:13 little bit about this in February, but I
19:15 I I want to emphasize this point and
19:17 really get some feedback from you all
19:18 tonight. um
19:23 what is before you is not um one single
19:27 large project uh that would gobble up
19:29 all $23 million of that. Uh we really
19:32 think there would be value and
19:34 understanding the diversity of interests
19:36 that this community has, understanding
19:38 the role that a park system plays in a
19:41 city and the residents, the 40,000
19:43 residents of the city. um um from Steve
19:47 who I completely respect his opinion
19:51 um has one goal and desire for what a
19:54 park system is whereas another resident
19:56 has a very different desire and interest
19:58 of what a park system is and um we
20:02 really set priorities and try and set um
20:05 investments u to address uh the number
20:08 of interests and needs that a park
20:10 system is serving. So in saying that uh
20:13 we really feel like focusing more on
20:15 some a number of a myriad of small to
20:18 medium-sized uh projects um will would
20:22 result in a broader community benefit uh
20:25 than um focusing on one specific area or
20:29 interest of the park system. Um so
20:32 that's one consideration um as we start
20:34 going into this um into this list of
20:36 projects. Uh we also feel like um it
20:40 addresses a variety of community uses uh
20:42 within the park system as I said
20:44 earlier. Um and we also think a real
20:46 important consideration is geographic
20:48 distribution of these investments. Um um
20:51 how are we how are we geographically
20:54 um making these investments um across
20:57 the city and through the city.
21:00 Next slide.
21:03 So maybe before jumping into the
21:06 projects themselves um and sort of
21:09 talking through these example projects,
21:11 maybe we'll go back to the next slide.
21:12 Any any just general thoughts or
21:14 questions about priorities or
21:17 considerations?
21:19 Um or would you rather I just keep going
21:21 on the projects?
21:25 Any pleasure? Anyone?
21:28 >> Okay. Oh,
21:28 >> Chris has his hand up.
21:31 >> Hey Chris.
21:32 Yeah, just real quick. Um the 3 million
21:35 from the development fees
21:39 >> roughly. How long did it take to
21:41 accumulate that amount?
21:44 >> Uh that's probably revenue over the last
21:47 four years, four or five years.
21:50 >> Okay. Then follow-up question, is it
21:52 possible to project how much might be uh
21:57 you know an estimated amount that might
21:58 be accumulated uh during the term of the
22:01 bond?
22:02 >> Good question. Um we'd have to work that
22:04 out with finance. It's possible. Uh
22:08 there there would be more. Um again, I
22:11 think for the purposes of at least what
22:12 we wanted in this first slide was to be
22:15 pretty conservative, but um you're
22:18 absolutely right. I I you know that
22:20 that's all dependent upon growth and how
22:22 many um you know how many um multif
22:27 family or single family residents are
22:29 being built. Um so
22:31 we can we can try and fine-tune that and
22:34 plan to fine-tune that as we get into a
22:37 little more detail in the coming months.
22:40 >> Thank you. Yeah, that might help with
22:42 just contingency items.
22:44 >> Yeah, absolutely.
22:46 >> Thank you. Okay. So, can I ask just sort
22:49 of a a question about that sort of a
22:52 high level uh vision for spending this
22:56 20 some odd million dollars? You know,
22:58 do we want more? Do we want better? Do
23:03 we want improved?
23:05 You know, what at a high level, where do
23:08 you see the uh the need and the biggest
23:12 impact for community for this money to
23:14 be spent?
23:15 >> Yeah, great question. Well, I will I
23:17 will I will tell you I will paraphrase
23:19 what the community told us the park
23:21 system plan and that's take care of what
23:24 you got. So improve
23:27 um I I also um
23:32 improve not just in quality but
23:33 functionality. Um let let's make our our
23:37 park system more functional in terms of
23:39 some of the needs. Um I think improve
23:43 and expand. I I think we've heard it
23:45 time and again when it comes to the
23:46 approach of athletic fields. Um and you
23:49 might recall, you know, a a we've talked
23:52 about this with all of you as a group,
23:54 you know, there's not a lot of
23:58 undeveloped, flat, accessible,
24:00 developable acreage left. And so we have
24:04 to get uber uber creative in how do we
24:07 look at at the fields within our own
24:10 parks, the fields within the school
24:12 district and the fields within the state
24:15 park. So, you know, fields that are
24:17 already publicly owned and how do we
24:20 increase functionality, right? And so
24:22 that's um
24:25 I think it's really it's it's not
24:27 expanding the park system. I would say
24:29 what we heard from the community was
24:30 let's let's have it function better.
24:33 We're we're pretty land constrained as a
24:35 town. We don't want to, you know, um
24:41 we don't want to add a bunch of more,
24:43 you know, active developed park space.
24:46 How do we make it work better?
24:52 >> What's the community thoughts on about
24:55 expanding the the goals?
24:58 the Julius that
25:02 >> for the prior bond of the $5 million.
25:05 >> Yeah, that's like 13 years ago. So now
25:08 that you know it's 13 years later is
25:10 there an and an interest in the
25:12 community about expanding what what we
25:15 have because you know the need is is
25:18 there and so I'm I'm just curious that
25:21 survey that you have there.
25:23 >> Yeah.
25:24 >> How high up is it compared with other
25:27 projects?
25:28 >> No great great question Katie. We we
25:30 know you know as we did the feasibility
25:33 study for expansion of the pool um we
25:37 haven't asked a survey to the community
25:39 to say hey you know rank rank all these
25:42 needs. Um we do know though that um
25:47 expansion of of of the pool was
25:50 seen with with some pretty high interest
25:53 uh by the community. Um, we also know in
25:56 that feasibility study, that project
25:58 alone is probably a $20 million
26:01 project. And so, if you recall, we we
26:05 have been in continue conversations with
26:07 the school district about, hey, um, if
26:10 this pool's expanded, it's not only
26:12 expanding community use, but it's also
26:14 addressing and expanding the needs that
26:16 the district has because they use that
26:18 as a competition pool, as you know. And
26:20 so, I think how that expansion gets
26:23 funded
26:25 Well, and meets
26:27 >> meets are not run there because there's
26:29 no Yeah, you're right. High School
26:30 meets, not not the Yeah,
26:32 >> not the club meets, but but Right. High
26:35 school meets, high school meets are
26:36 there. Yep. Yep. So, um anyways, just to
26:39 say that
26:44 yes, there's interest in expansion of
26:45 the pool. Um again, I I would open it up
26:49 for all of you. you know, I think how
26:50 that gets funded is still still needs to
26:53 be worked out. um to
26:58 >> I think one question is that will this
27:00 park bond include some of that because
27:04 you know that the conversation about
27:06 should some of that money be allocated
27:09 you know to work along with the school
27:11 district to expand um the the the pool
27:15 because
27:17 >> I I would be open to I would be open to
27:19 hearing the the conversation here
27:21 tonight. I mean the the what I'm hearing
27:23 from the community is that you know in
27:25 the summer months they parents are
27:27 chomping at the bit trying to get swim
27:30 lessons and it's always at full capacity
27:33 and then you know and if you go there
27:36 you know parking situation I mean and
27:38 and there's always kind of a it's it's
27:42 too small for for how many residents are
27:45 are using it or you know I'm not just
27:47 talking about the school but I'm talking
27:50 about community use.
27:52 >> Community use
27:54 um not enough lanes for people in turn
27:57 whatnot. I mean so
28:00 >> so again up up for conversation tonight,
28:03 right? And I think what we're going to
28:04 find is is
28:07 again 20 mid20 million is a lot of money
28:11 and it's exciting but it it it also
28:13 probably doesn't go as far as what our
28:16 as what our needs are going to have. So,
28:19 yeah, I I think absolutely. Let's talk
28:22 about this as we get into projects.
28:24 >> I was just gonna ask, yes, this is our
28:27 $20 million. This is not our full parks
28:29 budget. This is just the bond. So, I
28:31 think maybe we have to kind of think
28:32 about there's this bond that we need to
28:35 do to do some of these improvements.
28:36 There's the overall budget and what
28:38 percent of the budget would this 20
28:41 million be? So, as an example, we've all
28:43 been talking about Tibets. Tibbitz is
28:45 going to be way way more than $20
28:46 million. So, like I think it's important
28:49 to think about this bond as one piece,
28:51 not like everything we're going to do or
28:53 want to do.
28:54 >> Yeah. No, it's a it's a really really
28:56 good and maybe one way to think about it
28:57 is if we were to add up in current 2026
29:01 and trying to project an inflationary
29:03 number these 11 um 12 near-term
29:08 priorities plus a pool expansion is
29:12 probably I'm going to say $70 million
29:16 worth of work. $80 million worth of
29:17 work. So, so this potential for a
29:21 near-term, you know, a bond renewal is,
29:24 hey community, do we want to do we want
29:26 to find a way to fund a quarter of that
29:28 and and how do we best
29:31 prioritize those investments? Does that
29:34 maybe help with
29:37 >> this is not all the things we're going
29:39 to bond or is it for the next 5 to 10
29:42 years?
29:44 Again, to be determined, but it it it
29:50 will be a it will be a pretty a pretty
29:54 big lift.
29:57 Obviously, revisioning Tibbitz Valley
29:58 Park is still going to be work.
30:00 Exploring how a pool gets expanded, how
30:04 the rest of Tibets gets done, gets
30:07 funded. You know, that's that's all
30:09 again depending on funding. Um, you
30:13 know, the reality of how parks capital
30:15 funding
30:16 happens and occurs is there's not a
30:19 dedicated revenue source for parks
30:21 capital funding. So, it is it is um it
30:26 is um competing with
30:30 heavy heavy transportation needs and
30:32 facility needs and all those other
30:34 capital needs. Um, so I'm sorry,
30:37 Marlene, I'm not trying to be I mean
30:39 it's to be determined,
30:41 >> right? I think it's just hard to say.
30:42 Okay, so if I was really prioritizing
30:43 the work plan, this is all the money I
30:46 have.
30:48 >> I personally, and that's why we have
30:49 lots of people on the board, would
30:51 prioritize in a different way,
30:53 >> right? And so I'm just trying to get a
30:54 gauge of like, okay, this is everything
30:56 we're going to do in 10 years or this is
30:58 just a piece of it that we want to get
31:00 through the bond.
31:01 >> Yeah, that's a that's a great question.
31:03 And I and I think I would say in the
31:05 next five to six years should should
31:09 package be created should this go to
31:11 voters should voters say yes that this
31:14 this becomes a heavy part of our park
31:17 planning and development team and and
31:20 director and parks admin teams. This is
31:22 a heavy part of the work plan for the
31:24 next six years
31:27 uh just to get through if it's seven,
31:29 eight or nine capital projects and
31:32 designing it, doing engagement, doing
31:36 permitting and construction. Um this
31:39 would this would pretty much become the
31:42 work plan for the next
31:44 six years.
31:45 >> So to your point then this is not like a
31:48 piece of the pie for the next five or
31:50 six years. This would be the major lift
31:53 for the parks in this
31:55 >> Absolutely. Yes.
31:56 >> Yeah. There's not like other chunks
31:59 coming in.
32:00 >> Correct. There's not another $60 million
32:03 coming in. So, when I say the 80 the $80
32:05 million reference is more need, right?
32:08 If if we were to if we were to fully
32:10 fund the near-term projects, including
32:13 fully redoing Tibbitz Valley Park and
32:16 expanding a pool, that would take that
32:19 would require plus or minus $80 million
32:24 that we don't have. Right. So this would
32:28 should should this go to vote, should it
32:31 be renewed, this would be $20 million
32:34 $25 million
32:36 of that 80 that would be
32:39 known that would become real.
32:43 Well, I think the,
32:48 you know, when the mayor sat down and
32:49 kind of proposed what his thoughts were
32:51 is, and obviously we're talking about
32:53 it, but like
32:56 I think coming off the two school bonds
32:59 that didn't pass and looking to come
33:03 back to the community a third time in 18
33:06 months or whatever and say, "Can you
33:08 look at another bond or reapping this
33:10 bond?" His kind of conversation was
33:14 if we want to get this approved, we need
33:15 to have a pretty clear road map of
33:18 this is how we're going to improve the
33:20 park system
33:22 across these three, four, five, six
33:24 areas across the city
33:28 and you can lay out this is exactly what
33:30 this money is do so that the voters have
33:33 a clear understanding of it. I think
33:36 like that's where some of the
33:38 conversation of pool and tibbits gets a
33:40 little muddied is
33:44 you know I'm all team tibbits as well
33:47 but
33:49 as you said this money won't cover that
33:50 and then how does that uh
33:56 if you went to the city and said we have
33:58 this one project we want to do and this
34:00 is the bond for it you won't get any of
34:02 this other stuff not sure we've We're in
34:05 a spot where we're maybe getting
34:07 approval.
34:08 >> You know what percent bonds you pass by?
34:12 >> I'll find that out. I'll find out in 20
34:14 I'll find out both in 2006 and 2013. I
34:17 wanted it was it was well over 65%.
34:22 >> Yeah.
34:22 >> And is it just a simple majority it
34:24 takes?
34:24 >> It's a 60%. It's a bond. So is a bond
34:27 60%. Yeah. And and just going back to
34:31 the um the school bond, you know, the I
34:33 think the voters find it hard to forgive
34:35 because originally, you know, the bond
34:37 that we passed was for specific projects
34:40 and the Isqua school district mismanaged
34:44 the the money that was given and and
34:46 then was not very transparent with the
34:49 voters. And I think that's the reason
34:51 why, you know, voters have a hard time
34:54 giving and wanting to, you know, give
34:56 more money. So I think if we if we're
34:59 asking for a bond and we say this is
35:00 what will you based on what our
35:02 community feels strongly about and we
35:05 follow through then then I think that
35:08 you know the voters will believe and
35:11 vote for. But if you say you know I you
35:13 ask them what they want and and they
35:15 support that and you use that money
35:17 doing something else then you know
35:19 nobody would definitely be in favor of
35:22 that. being being transparent, showing
35:25 that follow-through, being transparent
35:26 with here's the projects that we intend
35:28 to to get done and then demonstrating
35:31 and earning that trust is really really
35:33 important.
35:35 Those are absolutely right.
35:38 Well, great questions, great discussion.
35:40 Why don't we kind of start talking about
35:42 projects? I'll I'll emphasize here as we
35:45 talk about these again, this is pulling
35:48 off of our park CIP and the near-term
35:50 priorities within the park plan. Um,
35:53 also focusing on as as the mayor shared
35:57 February, um, and and Ryan, as you said
36:00 so well, uh, we think strategically if
36:03 if we if we want to consider this, we
36:05 think multiple small to medium-sized
36:07 projects, um, is going to be a better
36:10 community in imper
36:13 impact than
36:15 something singular. Um and so you're
36:18 seeing here is small to mediumsiz
36:20 projects that again thanks for your
36:22 question Tim really improve
36:25 functionality
36:26 um of uh the existing system. So
36:30 with that uh first e house um you're
36:35 familiar with where the e house is. It's
36:36 in the northeast corner of confluence
36:38 park. Um it is sat there unimproved for
36:41 way too long way too many years. Um you
36:45 might recall as part of the um community
36:48 investments that were done um as we did
36:51 pedestrian park uh we also considered
36:53 doing some improvements here to the ek
36:55 house. Unfortunately the that those
36:57 federal funds only went so far. Uh but
36:59 we were able to really begin talking
37:01 about this with the community. Um and so
37:04 much so that we also reached out to King
37:06 County Landmark Commission and started
37:09 talking through really the nuts and
37:10 bolts of what would it look like to
37:12 landmark um a building such as this.
37:15 This is one of the last remaining if not
37:16 the last remaining um historical
37:19 farmhouses that was on the valley floor.
37:22 So very very worth preserving and
37:25 considering landmarking. Uh what we
37:27 talked about with the landmark
37:28 commission and what we're presenting in
37:30 this narrative and would want to further
37:32 discuss with the community is we think
37:36 um yes landmarking a building but
37:40 activating that building as well. And so
37:43 this wouldn't be something landmarked
37:45 that would just be looked at with a sign
37:47 on the outside of it, but how do we
37:49 create activated public space uh that
37:52 could be used as a park pavilion, if you
37:55 will, an addition to the park, uh but be
37:58 a a wonderful landmark building that
38:00 tells um a really important um and a
38:03 piece of of Isiqua's history. So um we
38:07 think there's grant funds out there uh
38:09 for historical projects like this. Uh we
38:12 think there's an opportunity that to do
38:13 this right uh to have this facility
38:17 really feel like an asset within the
38:19 park um um is a is a real opportunity.
38:23 We've had a chance to talk with um
38:26 historical museum um uh recently.
38:29 They're very very excited obviously
38:31 about this project and and love seeing
38:33 this as uh something that's being
38:35 considered uh should there be a a park
38:38 bond renewal. Uh we do not have existing
38:40 city funds. The city has not had funding
38:42 to get this done. Um I appreciate uh
38:46 what Steve said. Uh but um uh there
38:49 again there's no there's no money to get
38:50 this done. We think um considering um
38:54 asking orders to renew a bond. Um and
38:57 then leveraging grant funds is a great
39:00 way to finally get this to get this
39:02 important project done.
39:04 >> Diane's got her hand up. Yeah,
39:06 >> we're up. Yeah, Diana. Oh yeah, I put my
39:09 hand down in case I was being premature
39:11 and you were getting around to maybe
39:12 answering my question, but um I think I
39:16 can ask it now. Can you help us
39:18 visualize more fully what it would mean
39:21 for this
39:23 uh facility to be activated as you as
39:27 you say?
39:29 >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, go ahead, Diane.
39:33 >> Yeah. you you mentioned uh you know a
39:36 pavilion with seating, but kind of what
39:38 else could be involved.
39:40 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, as we um um again met
39:45 with the the landmarking folks, the the
39:47 real um historic value that they saw as
39:50 we toured the inside and outside of the
39:52 building is really the shell of the
39:54 house. And so, um and really the front
39:57 and the two sides probably have the
39:59 highest historical value. Uh,
40:01 interesting enough, the back of the
40:02 house does not have as much historical
40:04 value. Um what that led to is we were
40:07 brainstorming with the landmark
40:09 commission. Um those who were on the
40:11 park board in 2022
40:15 2021 as we were talking about this might
40:17 recall this conversation. One of the
40:18 things we talked about was taking in the
40:22 inside of the building uh removing the
40:24 second floor, not the building, but
40:27 making it so as you go into it, imagine
40:30 high vaulted a high vaulted space that
40:33 really uh functions as a really cool
40:36 historic rental facility for um um
40:40 indoor uh rentals for art exhibits. the
40:43 arts commission would be super super
40:44 excited about having something like this
40:46 that could um um be a community asset.
40:50 And then the back of imagine the back of
40:53 that house which really faces the park
40:55 and has the relationship to the park.
40:57 What if that had some type of either
40:59 accordion doors or rollup door so that
41:04 it it functioned as an indooroutdoor
41:06 pavilion in the summer months. um and
41:08 was able to either host bigger rentals
41:12 um or those types of events that would
41:15 need sort of that indooroutdoor space.
41:17 And so um um again as we brainstorm this
41:21 with the landmark commission they they
41:23 love that idea of again landmark
41:26 facilities that are used, touched,
41:29 enjoyed um uh by the community. Does
41:32 that answer your question, Diane?
41:35 >> Yes, it does. And I think um
41:39 it will also help the community and
41:42 voters visualize
41:44 uh what this project can actually be and
41:48 how it can serve their needs.
41:51 >> Yep. Yep. Great point. And I think we're
41:53 going to find that true in all of these
41:55 narratives and all we are up really on
41:57 the front end of these conversations,
41:58 but there is um some more work and Robin
42:02 and I are trying to line up what that
42:04 work would look like in the in the next
42:05 couple months. again pending
42:07 conversation with city council, but um
42:09 having a a more um robust narrative and
42:13 either some type of rendering renderings
42:16 for each of these that that do a better
42:18 job of telling the story. We're not
42:20 going to have time, nor do we really
42:21 want to have the budget to design all
42:23 these. But um D, it's a great it's a
42:25 great point that I think is going to be
42:27 true of all of these.
42:29 >> Chris, did you have a question comment?
42:32 Yeah, just a follow-up comment um for
42:35 Diana in particular, but you know, for
42:37 all of our newer members, uh a few years
42:40 ago, we did a study on uh renovating the
42:44 e house and or I should say staff did a
42:48 study and uh there's some great images
42:51 in those that could be shared, you know,
42:54 independently with with uh Parkboard
42:56 right now or or after this meeting, but
42:59 then they might be usable for any bond
43:01 effort. Uh, but they really showed how
43:03 that uh inside could really work for a
43:07 great uh event space and then how it
43:09 would connect with the outside and how
43:11 we got to that image that you see on the
43:13 screen right now.
43:15 >> Thanks, Chris. Great reminder.
43:18 All right, so next
43:20 >> Oh, yeah. Please do.
43:22 >> Yeah.
43:23 >> Uh, not too many months ago, a good
43:26 portion of Confluence was underwater.
43:28 Mhm.
43:28 >> So, are we comfortable that this house
43:32 is protected from those kind of events
43:35 that the the diversion is not going to
43:38 end up impacting what we might be
43:40 building?
43:40 >> Great question. And yes, absolutely.
43:42 We're we're confident. So, Confluence
43:44 Park was designed to handle that. The
43:47 oxbow and the and and e houses outside
43:50 of that um flood plane area.
43:54 >> Okay. Anybody who saw that last winter
43:56 is going to be like, well, yeah, what
43:59 are we doing? Are we going to is it
44:00 going to get flooded out? So, they think
44:02 that's an important point.
44:03 >> It's a really important point. It's a
44:05 great point. If the whole valley Florida
44:06 flooded, then this would be obviously
44:09 flooded.
44:09 >> That's another conversation.
44:11 >> I do think some of this restoration work
44:13 um you know, fun fact, um that the e
44:16 house is still on its original timber.
44:20 Um so, it doesn't have a foundation.
44:22 it's just on old timber steps. So
44:25 obviously converting this, restoring
44:27 this is going to include building a
44:29 whole new foundation. Um so thinking
44:32 through some of those mitigations will
44:34 be um important.
44:36 >> That's a nice addition to side.
44:39 >> Yes, it did.
44:40 >> Yeah.
44:41 >> And this is a one that we would assume
44:43 would start from paper itself over time.
44:45 Like we're expecting this would be one
44:47 that would get revenue generated.
44:50 >> Yes. Yes. A number of these. That's a
44:52 great point, Marlene. Yes. This this
44:54 would have a revenue generating element
44:55 that Yeah. Yeah. Once the capital
44:57 investments made, at least
44:58 operationally, it's it's generating
45:01 revenue as well as being a an expense.
45:05 Yep.
45:07 Next slide.
45:12 So, the trail head formerly known as the
45:15 artist formerly known as the East Sunset
45:17 Trail Head, now Senator Bill Ramos uh
45:20 Memorial Trail Head. Um, as you all
45:23 know, that has been a priority and a
45:25 priority identified. It really serves as
45:28 a primary gateway up into West Tiger as
45:31 well as Grand Ridge. A lot of people
45:33 will park there and not only head up
45:35 into Tradition Plateau and West Tiger
45:38 Mountain beyond uh Tradition Plateau,
45:40 but we'll also cross I90 and head up
45:43 into Grand Ridge Park. So, um a very
45:46 very strategically located important
45:48 trail head um um investments we'd like
45:52 to make here is um improving the the
45:54 surfacing um um and um with some type of
45:59 sustainable paving within the parking
46:01 area. also looking at adding restrooms
46:04 uh which are have been identified by
46:06 many as a a strong desire um as well as
46:10 a number of other storytelling and
46:12 finding opportunities.
46:19 >> Next question. Yeah,
46:20 >> I say I like this one too. I think one
46:22 of the benefits of this is it's close to
46:24 Oldtown again from an economic
46:27 development. Like why why would we want
46:28 to get more people there? and hopefully
46:30 they go have lunch or go buy some.
46:34 >> Yeah, great point and and you'll see
46:36 this in our other two trail corridors.
46:38 We really see the strategy of our park
46:40 system serving this role of serving the
46:42 community but also being this gateway to
46:45 the public lands around us, the more we
46:47 can do that closer to Oldtown. You're
46:49 absolutely right. It's a great point.
46:54 invest here.
46:59 Speaking of those corridors, uh so uh in
47:03 2018 and 19 we were successful in a
47:07 really strategic acquisition of the
47:09 property known as the Burgund property.
47:11 Uh this has created a great opportunity
47:15 um uh to um uh really strengthen the
47:19 corridor from uh or strengthen a trail
47:22 system from the valley floor um up into
47:26 Cougar Mountain. Uh much of Cougar
47:28 Mountain is owned by King County and
47:30 it's part of the King County Regional uh
47:32 park. um but there's not a lot of
47:34 immediate easy access um from the valley
47:38 floor um up into that trail system. And
47:41 so as we purchased that property um King
47:45 County was very involved and very
47:47 supportive of that acquisition, very
47:48 supportive of um thinking through um and
47:52 and really um activating this corridor
47:55 with trails. Um we're here at Tibis
47:58 Valley Park. Just to the north of us is
48:00 the Central Transit parking garage. Um,
48:02 a lot of the v vision and benefit was
48:04 imagine that parking garage could
48:06 function as a trail head. Uh, Bergsma,
48:08 this property comes right down uh to the
48:11 intersection there at um 900 and um and
48:15 Newport. So, um again bringing
48:19 opportunity to develop this we we've
48:22 acquired the land. Um the the idea the
48:25 concept of this investment is really
48:27 now's the time to design and construct
48:30 um u that trail system within that
48:33 within that corridor.
48:35 And then it's it's parallel project um
48:39 its partner project is on Squawk
48:42 Mountain uh just on Friday the 13th. Uh
48:46 we closed on the KCari 3 purchase uh
48:51 that we had highlighted with all of you.
48:53 Uh that's a 17 acre. It was planned to
48:56 be Kolkari phase 3. Um KCari phase 1 and
48:59 phase 2 were uh multifamily um
49:02 condominiums that have already been
49:04 constructed. Um uh the developer sold us
49:07 that 17 acres. Um we had previously
49:11 purchased 20 acres of an adjoining
49:13 property. um um um that combined what we
49:19 refer to as Wayimouth, the Waymouth
49:21 property um creates a 30 plus um acre
49:25 corridor um on Squawk Mountain. Um again
49:29 from the strengthening
49:31 um and really having opportunity to to
49:34 um really broaden our um trail access,
49:38 direct trail access up. In this case,
49:40 much of Squawk Mountain is owned by uh
49:42 state parks. And there's the Squawk
49:44 Mountain State Park, but again, the only
49:46 real access um true parking, vehicular
49:49 access to Squawk Mountain State Park is
49:52 um on the May Valley roadside. Uh so
49:55 this again just uh would allow um really
50:00 really important um trail connections
50:02 also some neighborhood trail connections
50:04 and loops for the neighbors that live
50:06 there on Squawk and that that portion of
50:08 Squawk Mountain um highly highly um
50:14 a high priority corridor to to do some
50:17 real um um trail development on.
50:21 >> Which side of Squawk is this on? This is
50:24 on the
50:26 um if if you knew know where this road
50:29 is, this is Sunrise. So it would be the
50:35 >> the north
50:38 northeast
50:40 >> side of Squawk. So if if you took
50:44 Minehill Road,
50:46 um do you know where that is? Um, I
50:49 mean, I live at Web's Clock, but I'm on
50:51 the north side. And
50:53 >> where this is
50:54 >> this would be more the southeast side of
51:01 of the mountain.
51:04 >> Sorry, Wildwood.
51:07 >> Thank you, David.
51:09 Okay.
51:13 So,
51:14 >> is this And then So, what I'm getting to
51:16 if this is kind of on the east side,
51:18 there's a big stretch on the east side
51:21 on the old Grizz trail up there that got
51:24 devastated with the bomb cyclone. I
51:26 don't know if you've been up there, but
51:28 it's so impressive to walk through there
51:30 and see thousands of trees down.
51:35 You might even be seeing it up high
51:37 there where it looks like it's patched.
51:38 It's a little bit fall. I don't know.
51:40 But what I'm trying to get I'm just
51:42 wondering does this encompass part of
51:44 that?
51:45 >> Uh this 37 acres does not. But this 30
51:48 this 37 acres directly adjoined state
51:50 park property.
51:53 So it it it creates a seamless from what
51:57 is known as Minehill Trail. So, if you
51:59 were at Newport,
52:01 um, if you're at the pool, if you're at
52:03 the swimming pool, cross the Newport
52:05 Bridge, took a left on
52:10 I we refer to it as the Mineal Trail.
52:12 I'm I I don't know the name of that
52:15 road, forgive me, but take that left
52:17 before you head up into Squawk. Follow
52:19 that, go past the Wildwood Apartments,
52:22 and then you end up in the KCari phase
52:24 one and phase two areas. that becomes
52:27 sunrise. That is this is sunrise right
52:32 here. And so this is the 37 acres that
52:35 probably heads up to about there. And
52:37 then that's all state parks
52:40 >> part of the
52:44 >> uh it's not it's not that far east.
52:46 Isobar is the far east side of and
52:50 that's really outside of the city
52:51 limits. So this is inside of the city
52:54 limits.
52:57 I know um Kim, executive director of
53:01 this Rob's Trails Club is is probably
53:03 listening in right now. We've had a
53:04 chance to to meet with them a couple
53:06 times. They're have been very very
53:08 interested in trail development. Both um
53:11 on Cougar Mountain, the Bergsma property
53:13 as well as these two properties that
53:15 we've recently purchased. Uh we know uh
53:18 they would be a very active partner in
53:21 in um not only working through the the
53:24 trail design uh process uh but also
53:28 where there's opportunity to leverage
53:29 either grant funds um or in some cases
53:32 where um trails often often wilderness
53:35 trails like this and segments of it that
53:37 that aren't too complicated can be done
53:39 through volunteer efforts. So,
53:42 you know, I funds could be leveraged
53:44 both through volunteer uh resources as
53:47 well as grant resources as we really uh
53:49 think about um the trail construction of
53:52 both of these both of these corridors.
53:54 Really, really key opportunity again
53:57 taking land we've purchased um putting
54:00 it to better function. Um I think we
54:03 would all agree on weekends um and you
54:06 look think of the valley floor, West
54:08 Tiger Mountain is very overprescribed um
54:11 at times. And so the opportunity these
54:14 corridors really have to um allow
54:19 that recreational use to be um
54:22 strategically and smartly um sort of um
54:25 spread out and distributed a little bit
54:27 more um amongst our uh three Alps and
54:31 and not um overprescribing one uh so
54:34 much.
54:40 Hi Diana. Hi
54:43 Hey. Yeah. I just have a quick question
54:44 about the Squawk Mountain Development.
54:46 So, I went and scouted that area with
54:49 Dave Kappler last winter
54:52 before
54:54 I joined this park board. And what I
54:57 remember about it is it's near another
55:00 trail head. Um,
55:02 and that trail head sees pretty sparse
55:05 use, but it's been slowly growing. and
55:08 users of that trail head kind of park
55:10 along the residential road and it's
55:12 starting during kind of peak usage times
55:15 to get kind of backed up. Um, with the
55:18 addition of more trails in that area and
55:21 the intention to expand usage, would
55:23 there be more parking or is that
55:25 something that's been considered?
55:28 >> It's very much being considered. Yeah.
55:30 So with the as we closed on the KCari
55:34 phase three property that has a lot of
55:38 frontage along Sunrise. So u something
55:41 we we've already sort of explored and
55:43 looked at and we'd want to talk further
55:45 with the community about with this
55:47 project would be um adding some adding
55:49 some parking and and taking that parking
55:51 off of that residential road which is
55:53 which is Sunrise Place.
55:56 >> Okay. So that would be within scope for
55:58 the usage of these bond funds
56:00 >> you would like. Yep. Yep.
56:01 >> Okay.
56:08 >> All right. So athletic fields um also a
56:12 a certainly a priority identified from
56:14 the community by the community in um um
56:18 the park system plan update. As I said
56:20 earlier, um we are not in a position to
56:24 go buy flat accessible developable land
56:26 in Isqua. So a big part of that strategy
56:29 is how do we improve our facilities? How
56:32 do we partner with the school district,
56:34 consider um improving some of their
56:36 facilities to create um better, more
56:39 functional community uh spaces? Um,
56:45 as we um shared this with you in
56:48 February, um we identified the
56:51 potential, not that they could all be
56:53 funded, but um four or five
56:56 opportunities we have to consider um
56:59 creating um um and utilizing uh
57:03 synthetic turf to create multi-use uh
57:06 community sports fields. Um, three of
57:09 those as we've talked with the school
57:11 district would be looking at the three
57:13 elementary school sites um here within
57:16 uh the city of Isiqua. So that's Isqua
57:18 Valley Elementary, Grand Ridge
57:20 Elementary, and Clark Elementary. Um all
57:23 three have play spaces, field spaces
57:26 that are very very unimproved. Um
57:31 uh the concept um as has been modeled by
57:34 other cities. I' I've uh in my career
57:37 I've had the chance to be part of these
57:39 community sports field projects where um
57:43 um the community invests um on those um
57:47 school fields where there's not, you
57:48 know, varsity competition um happening.
57:51 Um, in this case, these three elementary
57:53 schools are great candidates and that um
57:55 the improvement um on those fields
57:58 creates a much more functional um less
58:03 dirty, less muddy recess space uh for
58:06 kiddos to enjoy um and for to be an
58:09 asset uh for the school during school
58:12 year and during school hours. Uh but
58:14 then in off hours, after hours, um and
58:18 weekends and summer, um there's suddenly
58:22 so much more community capacity created
58:25 um uh with those fields. Um um school
58:29 district remains very supportive and
58:31 very interested um of these being
58:33 considered um as part of a park bond
58:35 renewal. Um um along with those um three
58:41 um opportunities at the elementary
58:43 schools, uh we also have in our
58:45 near-term priority list Central Park Pad
58:48 2. Um if you're familiar and recall
58:50 Central Park Pad 2, that is uh the pad
58:54 the area of Central Park that has um two
58:58 um baseball fields uh that um much like
59:02 all the soil that was um um stockpiled
59:07 onto Central Park as as those houses
59:09 were created were very very poor
59:12 functioning, poor draining soil. And so
59:14 we have two baseball fields that are
59:18 really um not used um near to the degree
59:22 that they should be. Uh they're also and
59:24 just how they were originally configured
59:27 uh very limiting in their size. Um and
59:31 so um the premise of Central Park pad 2
59:35 uh similar to what we've done with pad 1
59:37 and pad 3 where uh we um utilize
59:41 synthetic turf instead of the the the
59:44 very unsuitable soil that um is there on
59:47 site. Um we um for any and all of these
59:50 projects um we utilize under the field
59:53 for storm water capacity and filtration
59:56 and all those requirements. So we're not
59:57 having to create separate storm water
59:59 ponds, but we allow the field to
1:00:01 function um environmentally actually
1:00:03 probably function better than it's
1:00:05 functioning now. Um and the community uh
1:00:09 gets a a much better uh functioning um
1:00:12 increased capacity um athletic field for
1:00:14 really any of these sites. Um
1:00:18 the issue before us though is this um
1:00:21 the the likely proceeds from this bond
1:00:23 would would have a hard time funding all
1:00:26 four of these. Um so you know what would
1:00:28 it look like if we did two of these and
1:00:30 how would we prioritize which two do we
1:00:32 want to uh focus on? um a lot more work
1:00:35 to be done as we really understand
1:00:38 better understand the conditions of each
1:00:40 of those sites and what budgetary
1:00:42 constraints and considerations that
1:00:44 we're going to need to to think through
1:00:46 and how we stretch our dollars but um I
1:00:49 have questions at the end but we could
1:00:50 certainly this has been great just
1:00:52 talking about each of these projects as
1:00:53 we go. uh would love to get feedback and
1:00:56 thoughts just if you have questions or
1:00:57 concerns about synthetic turf or if you
1:01:00 have thoughts um about um which of these
1:01:04 we should prioritize. Um I would say
1:01:06 keep in mind also I think geography is
1:01:08 really really important on this one too
1:01:10 is how are we geographically
1:01:12 distributing um our improved athletic
1:01:15 fields throughout the community.
1:01:18 thoughts,
1:01:20 questions, comments.
1:01:24 I mean, my I I have some thoughts, but
1:01:29 you know, I think there's a lot more
1:01:30 benefit to uh turfing the elementary
1:01:34 school fields than pad 2, even though
1:01:38 pad 2 is a mess, but I think you you get
1:01:41 benefit in that the community is using
1:01:43 them every day of the week at that point
1:01:45 in time. and the kids are out there
1:01:47 playing. They're the after school
1:01:50 activities are out there enjoying them.
1:01:51 Then you're programming it for some type
1:01:54 of re revenue generation. I think
1:01:58 I think those, you know, as I think
1:02:00 about how that could impact a whole lot
1:02:02 of people as you're getting mean
1:02:05 hundreds and hundreds of people, kids a
1:02:07 day playing on those fields. I think
1:02:10 could have a lot of
1:02:12 positive.
1:02:14 >> It's a great point back there.
1:02:17 Pad two, I think, is is great, but it's
1:02:22 uh it still functions in the way it
1:02:24 functions right now.
1:02:27 >> Play the whole summer spring of baseball
1:02:29 out there.
1:02:33 >> Yeah. But I mean that's kind of how I I
1:02:35 I thought of these. I I and kind of
1:02:37 looping back on some of this is you know
1:02:41 the the people I talked to from like the
1:02:43 last meeting and people in the community
1:02:45 I had conversations with is um you know
1:02:49 the the the things that I heard most
1:02:52 kind of piqu people's interest was one
1:02:54 is always tip tibbits. It's always been
1:02:56 tippets. We know that's a funding thing.
1:02:58 >> Absolutely. But um really the school
1:03:00 field situation e house and the bill
1:03:03 senator Bill Romos trail head kind of
1:03:06 the three that that people were like
1:03:08 those have a great impact those and
1:03:11 they're visible like you see them you
1:03:13 they have impact I mean having I was
1:03:16 just at confluence park yesterday I was
1:03:19 looking at the I don't know how long
1:03:20 we've been there the new metal beds that
1:03:22 are in the community
1:03:24 >> yeah just just this winter we beds
1:03:28 didn't know those before. But uh you
1:03:31 know and just thinking about that as
1:03:32 something that people walk by and drive
1:03:34 by and there's this
1:03:37 eyesore. I mean it really is right there
1:03:40 in one of I think one of the most
1:03:42 beautiful anchor parks in the city and
1:03:44 you're going to have a lot of function
1:03:45 there and the people I talked to really
1:03:47 felt that way too. So, as we talked
1:03:49 about some of this, but talking about
1:03:51 this in specific ways, I thought there's
1:03:52 a lot of value
1:03:55 working with the school district and I I
1:03:56 think we I've talked about this before.
1:03:58 talked about us at other meetings and we
1:03:59 had um the superintendent uh here I
1:04:03 believe a couple meetings ago Jason the
1:04:05 director of her facility
1:04:07 >> just talking about how how
1:04:10 much more of a partnership a long-term
1:04:14 lasting partnership we want to build
1:04:16 between the school district and the city
1:04:18 and um I think that's kind of like an
1:04:20 all branch piece of it that generates
1:04:23 everybody here so there's my two cents
1:04:28 appreciate that
1:04:29 >> piling on. I'm going to agree with you.
1:04:30 I think doing the elementary schools
1:04:32 would be a huge
1:04:33 >> win. I think the other thing when we're
1:04:35 thinking about this is where is the turf
1:04:37 already located versus not located. So
1:04:39 the valley floor is a turf desert.
1:04:42 >> So kids want to play on the valley
1:04:44 floor, they're
1:04:45 >> funny or they're not playing outside.
1:04:47 >> So I think and we're going to talk about
1:04:49 the um playground in the next page,
1:04:52 >> but I would be remiss not to say that
1:04:54 there should be at least some turf
1:04:56 there. I know we can't do the whole
1:04:57 thing. If we're going to have this huge
1:04:59 playground and then the kids who want to
1:05:00 go play ball have nowhere to play that's
1:05:02 not money, we're missing a huge
1:05:04 opportunity.
1:05:07 >> Yeah. And I mean just
1:05:08 >> geography is
1:05:10 agree.
1:05:11 >> Just to expand on that a little bit
1:05:12 further is you know you have like I
1:05:15 think dogfield I wouldn't I don't know
1:05:17 how much programming is but they're
1:05:18 programmed out
1:05:20 much more significant.
1:05:23 someone that just had five of the last
1:05:24 seven baseball practices rained out at
1:05:26 Tid Park in Lake in the last two weeks.
1:05:30 Uh having an additional space would be
1:05:34 additional turf helps with Yeah. instead
1:05:36 of having 8-year-old boys practice at
1:05:38 9:00 on Saturday night at the Central
1:05:40 Park.
1:05:43 >> I think it's just the play time too,
1:05:45 right? Like that's the thing about
1:05:46 Central Park is there's always kids
1:05:48 playing there. Yes.
1:05:50 >> Right. Like you go to Tibbitz and it's a
1:05:52 ghost town.
1:05:53 >> So there's a reason.
1:05:56 >> Yeah.
1:05:57 >> Yeah. The vibrancy of both scheduled use
1:05:59 but also unscheduled just drop in use is
1:06:04 >> Higher density housing there. There's
1:06:06 nowhere for those kids to play. Like
1:06:08 that's a mess.
1:06:12 >> Thank you. Any other thoughts comments?
1:06:15 This is great.
1:06:17 >> All four of these options would be
1:06:18 difficult to find. You're talking about
1:06:19 all four that are just on this one slot.
1:06:21 You're not talking about
1:06:23 >> Yeah. Just this funding funding all four
1:06:25 fields is
1:06:26 >> Yes. You weren't talking about the other
1:06:28 project. So,
1:06:28 >> exactly.
1:06:30 >> Just is it typical for a city parks
1:06:34 department to fund improvements at a
1:06:37 school playfields? Because I would have
1:06:40 Is it okay? because I would have thought
1:06:42 that was the school district's
1:06:43 responsibility and there and I it was
1:06:47 not really a crossover but maybe it is
1:06:50 and that's my ignorance
1:06:52 >> I would say well I'm saying yes because
1:06:54 I I I've done it in my own career so um
1:06:59 I I think when you depends on the city
1:07:02 um I think when you think of how land
1:07:04 constrained Isiqua is and how creative
1:07:06 and innovative we really owe it to the
1:07:09 public to be um
1:07:12 these these are very doable these days
1:07:14 and and they they're not out of the
1:07:16 norm. So I I'll give an example from my
1:07:19 own career. Um Lake Washington School
1:07:21 District in the city of Seamish in 2004
1:07:25 created and built a community sports
1:07:27 field at East Lake High School that is
1:07:29 still functioning 22 years later. Um and
1:07:33 is an important community asset
1:07:36 especially in that at that time of the
1:07:37 city of Samos, you know.
1:07:40 clearing a bunch of trees and creating
1:07:42 to create more athletic fields was
1:07:44 really seen as a tough trade-off. And
1:07:46 so, um, we really saw this opportunity
1:07:50 to say, "Hey, why don't we partner with
1:07:52 the other public agency?" They're two
1:07:54 public agencies and um it's in both both
1:07:58 public agencies best interest to make
1:08:01 this investment. Um, the city fully
1:08:04 funds the investment. The city then
1:08:08 schedules, maintains, and collects the
1:08:10 revenue from that community sports field
1:08:13 um to really um
1:08:17 how do I say it? Um position it to
1:08:20 function just like a city park facility
1:08:23 in many ways other than when the school
1:08:25 is in operation. I see schools be more
1:08:28 territorial about their playfields, you
1:08:31 know, and they weren't really open to
1:08:33 the public. You had to have some
1:08:34 connection
1:08:35 >> traditionally. Yeah, absolutely.
1:08:36 >> And so I'm I'm trying to understand sort
1:08:38 of boundaries here. You know, if we're
1:08:40 taking money that is coming from the pot
1:08:43 for the whole city, we're improving the
1:08:45 school fields, but not everyone is
1:08:47 allowed to use those fields. Is that,
1:08:50 you know, fair play? I I don't know. And
1:08:52 like I said, I I I may be very ignorant
1:08:54 of the tradeoffs here, but I'm just
1:08:56 trying to understand.
1:08:57 >> It's a it's a careful relationship. You
1:09:00 you touch on tradition. I would agree
1:09:02 with you, but I think those traditions
1:09:04 are being slowly eroded as both school
1:09:07 districts and cities are realizing, hey,
1:09:09 we're better we're better partnering
1:09:11 together on this. Um, any investment
1:09:14 like this would come with a pretty clear
1:09:17 ironclad agreement between the two
1:09:19 agencies that say, "Hey, here's this
1:09:21 this investment is being made by the
1:09:23 entire community. Here's here's the
1:09:25 strings that come with that investment,
1:09:26 access, availability, time, and all of
1:09:30 that." And so you really again I think
1:09:35 what works so well at East Lakeake High
1:09:36 School in that community sports field is
1:09:38 it's even signed differently. So as if
1:09:41 if you have a scheduled game, yes,
1:09:43 you're walking on a high school campus,
1:09:45 but you know when you're on that
1:09:46 community sports field, it's this is
1:09:49 city spa. This is this is different than
1:09:52 the rest of the campus. And so if if we
1:09:54 do elementary schools, we'd want to
1:09:57 design and think something very
1:09:58 similarly that hey during the school day
1:10:01 and during recess, this feels like the
1:10:04 this is this is the recess space, but at
1:10:06 the same time um as the community is
1:10:09 using it, it it feels like they're
1:10:11 they're not invading an elementary
1:10:13 school. They're welcome. This is a this
1:10:16 should look and feel like a neighborhood
1:10:17 park.
1:10:18 >> That's not been my experience. And so
1:10:20 that's why I asked the question. I've
1:10:21 seen lock gates and signage saying, you
1:10:24 know, if not this, then stay out. And so
1:10:27 I'm wondering about it just isn't
1:10:30 the way you describe it, I think it's
1:10:31 wonderful. You know, if it's we we're
1:10:33 helping to pay for it and the city
1:10:35 public gets access to it,
1:10:37 that's great. Uh it's not always the
1:10:40 case. So that's why I ask
1:10:42 >> I think this really demonstrates as we
1:10:44 and again as we talk to the community,
1:10:46 right? It's like we need to be if you
1:10:48 might remember this, we need to be
1:10:49 innovative. We need to be creative. We
1:10:51 need to we need to own the fact that
1:10:53 we're really land constrained. And so I
1:10:55 think, you know, um I appreciate this
1:10:58 discussion because I I too would say the
1:11:00 this opportunity to partner with the
1:11:02 district I think comes at a strategic
1:11:04 time and and I think tells a innovative
1:11:08 um story. It it shows that innovative
1:11:11 approach by both agencies. So
1:11:15 do and my last second question is do you
1:11:17 have a high level feel or or magnitude
1:11:21 of these projects financially?
1:11:24 >> We're getting there. We're getting
1:11:25 there. So yeah, in fact when you super
1:11:29 super rough um in the minutes you will
1:11:31 see this this is included in the minutes
1:11:35 uh which was what the mayor and I sort
1:11:37 of just talked through and walk through.
1:11:39 um you know on a very rough scale to do
1:11:44 um two two of those fields two fields is
1:11:47 probably a
1:11:50 eight well we said 7 and a half to $9
1:11:52 million
1:11:54 investment
1:11:56 to do two of them. We would also look
1:11:58 at, if you recall, when we did Central
1:12:00 Park, we redid the turf at Central Park
1:12:02 pad one. We are phasing out crumb
1:12:05 rubber. Uh so, uh for pad one, we used
1:12:09 cork um infill, an organic infill. Um
1:12:12 great news is the community has loved
1:12:14 it. Um it they they feel like it
1:12:18 functions just as well as the the crumb
1:12:20 rubber. So as we consider these fields
1:12:23 um once we have to redo the turf on pad
1:12:26 one uh we will not be having you know
1:12:28 carb rubber as part of um any of the
1:12:31 synthetic turf facilities.
1:12:38 So next
1:12:43 hey good timing Marlene uh play area.
1:12:46 So, these next two projects are um um
1:12:50 added park amenities uh that could be
1:12:52 considered at Tippetsz Valley Park. Um I
1:12:55 think we've talked enough about Tibets
1:12:57 Valley Park and no this it is a
1:12:59 community park that's lived a great
1:13:01 life. Uh but I would say it's not
1:13:04 functioning to the degree that we really
1:13:06 want or expect a community park to
1:13:07 function or or really need to function
1:13:09 in its next 20 or 30 years. Um um and so
1:13:14 as we're doing the revisioning of that
1:13:16 park and know the complexities of that
1:13:18 park and what's happening both with the
1:13:20 creek and with hydrarology and with
1:13:23 slopes and with the fields. Um what what
1:13:26 what we're proposing with both the um
1:13:29 adding a more community. So this is a
1:13:31 bunch a bigger play area. It would also
1:13:34 be an all-inclusive play um um area as
1:13:39 well. um we would we would have the
1:13:41 revisioning work that we're going to
1:13:43 continue on should we do this bond or
1:13:45 not. That revisioning work really
1:13:47 informs where this play area would be
1:13:50 located. Um um that will be an important
1:13:54 part of messaging if we're moving
1:13:56 forward with this uh with this bond. Um
1:14:01 but you know when you look at we've
1:14:04 identified we have four classified
1:14:06 community parks within our system. Uh
1:14:08 right, we have Tibetsz Valley Park,
1:14:10 Confluence Park, um the sort of the the
1:14:14 conglomeration of Memorial Field, Depot
1:14:16 Park, Pedestrian Park, and we have
1:14:18 Central Park. So those are our four
1:14:20 community parks. All of which sometime
1:14:23 in the future, I should say none of
1:14:25 which right now have what I would or
1:14:27 what we would or what modern modern is
1:14:31 not the right word. Um current park
1:14:34 standards, none of them have a community
1:14:36 parksized play area. And so well other
1:14:40 let me scratch that. Central Park has a
1:14:43 a community park size play area. the
1:14:47 other three as we think of reinvesting
1:14:50 or repurposing, we have a playground
1:14:52 replacement program within our six-year
1:14:54 CIP. So, this becomes a really good
1:14:56 candidate. Um, you know, reinvesting in
1:14:58 play areas has already really been seen
1:15:00 as a priority both by the community and
1:15:03 by city council. So, this is an
1:15:05 opportunity to really create a a
1:15:08 community park-sized play area there at
1:15:11 at Tibbitz Valley Park.
1:15:14 And then next maybe we'll talk the two
1:15:16 TDP sites to begin with. Again, this was
1:15:18 really thanks to the discussion we had
1:15:20 in February. Um we thought this was
1:15:23 really really important to add. Um as
1:15:25 you all know um many of you know um
1:15:29 Tippets Valley Park was first considered
1:15:31 u for the the first dog park. um uh
1:15:35 number of uh reasons along with a global
1:15:39 pandemic sort of put a pause on that um
1:15:42 project um as we're about to cut a
1:15:45 ribbon in a in a month or so for our
1:15:48 Reineer um trail dog park. Uh this would
1:15:51 be a great second dog park. Again,
1:15:54 geographically
1:15:56 located in another part of town uh to
1:15:59 serve uh the community here um on Squawk
1:16:02 Mountain and around Tibetz Valley Park.
1:16:04 Um again, the revisioning work, much
1:16:06 like the playground, the revisioning
1:16:08 work would inform where this dog park
1:16:09 would be located. Um so combined um at
1:16:13 least at a minimum the play area and the
1:16:15 dog park become a a a really um I think
1:16:20 important initial investment into that
1:16:22 revision to Valley Park.
1:16:27 Comments, thoughts, questions?
1:16:30 That was the concrete pour. Those would
1:16:31 be plazas on at at Reineer Valley or
1:16:34 Reineer Trail Dog Park.
1:16:37 >> Concrete's now done. Any
1:16:40 other just thoughts, comments about
1:16:42 tibbits in general or those two? I'll go
1:16:46 on to the last one. Oh, go ahead.
1:16:50 >> Very disappointed we don't have any tur.
1:16:57 >> I don't know what to do with that other
1:16:58 than tell you like
1:17:00 >> I don't like that part of the plan at
1:17:01 >> That's great. And I don't I don't
1:17:04 disagree. I don't disagree. I I
1:17:08 again how and where
1:17:13 you know how much of how much of an
1:17:15 investment at TVP do we want to propose
1:17:18 in this bond without having the
1:17:19 revisioning done and knowing where it's
1:17:21 going to be located. So um very open to
1:17:25 consideration and conversation um if we
1:17:29 want to
1:17:30 >> think about that differently
1:17:31 >> different like you know talk to the
1:17:33 sports parents a lot right what they ask
1:17:35 me is like when is there
1:17:37 >> what are we doing with that why is it
1:17:39 always underwater
1:17:42 >> and I get that we have to do a lot of
1:17:43 stuff across the communities I totally
1:17:45 get that I just
1:17:48 >> from my stakeholders that will be their
1:17:49 number one question
1:17:52 And again, just to be on the record, I
1:17:55 think dog parks are a bad idea. I have
1:17:57 to explain to you the reasons why, and
1:18:00 I'll just put that out on the table. I
1:18:01 can have a discussion with anyone wants
1:18:03 to have that uh as a long-term trainer.
1:18:06 Uh I have my reasons. I'd rather see
1:18:10 that money go into turf or playground or
1:18:14 whatever. I just think dog parks in
1:18:16 general are bad idea. Uh,
1:18:19 I'll just leave it there.
1:18:20 >> Great. No, thank you.
1:18:23 And that's why the diversity of a park
1:18:25 board, the diversity of the community is
1:18:27 so so important. Um, in in these all of
1:18:30 these considerations,
1:18:33 uh, the the last sort of idea we had in
1:18:37 this example list of of projects was
1:18:40 another park amenity. Uh, we've heard
1:18:42 time and time again through the park
1:18:44 system plan update and others. Um, how
1:18:46 do we consider adding um expanding uh
1:18:49 court facilities uh within our park
1:18:52 system? Um uh this would be uh an idea
1:18:56 of adding um and expanding pickle ball
1:18:59 tennis courts into pad 3 um at Central
1:19:02 Park where there currently are none. Um
1:19:04 if you're familiar with pad 3, that's
1:19:06 the lower synthetic turf fields. Um uh
1:19:10 this project could add up to four um
1:19:13 tennis courts. Um which would be eight
1:19:17 pickle ball courts. Um um how that gets
1:19:20 striped to be discussed. Um um
1:19:25 uh but there's a sort of a lawn area
1:19:28 very um undefined transition area from
1:19:31 the parking lot to the fields. In many
1:19:33 ways, this would, I think, better define
1:19:35 it and formalize it. Um, create a a
1:19:37 plaza space that would both support the
1:19:39 courts as well as, I think, per create a
1:19:43 better transition area to and from the,
1:19:46 uh, the turf fields as well. Uh, there's
1:19:48 an existing restroom there. Um, so, you
1:19:51 know, how we utilize that existing
1:19:53 restroom, uh, nudge that existing
1:19:56 restroom. uh there's some, you know,
1:19:58 sort of potential um cost savings there
1:20:00 as we really start getting into how we
1:20:03 um again leverage leverage investments
1:20:05 and leverage some of our existing assets
1:20:08 within the park. So,
1:20:11 >> take this one in the presentation.
1:20:12 >> Yeah, I was
1:20:18 going to add that. So to note it was
1:20:22 added late this afternoon when realized
1:20:25 as we went through the list that we
1:20:27 discussed again no in our haste it's
1:20:30 like oh that wasn't on there. So we will
1:20:34 we will make sure uh community that's
1:20:36 listening anyone who's listening to this
1:20:39 a week from now or three weeks from now
1:20:42 um we'll make sure the agenda packet
1:20:43 includes this updated presentation that
1:20:45 we uh that we showed here. Um, and
1:20:48 again, it's just it's wanting to be
1:20:50 consistent with what was shared and what
1:20:53 people will see in the minutes for the
1:20:56 possible Isiqua Park bond renewal um,
1:20:59 example projects. So,
1:21:01 >> that could be a phenomenal way to use
1:21:03 that space.
1:21:06 >> Again, how do we take existing space and
1:21:08 just create some additional capacity and
1:21:10 additional functionality?
1:21:14 >> Robin was so humble. Robin is the one
1:21:17 who actually did this. Just really quick
1:21:20 sort of
1:21:20 >> Oh, you're blaming her back
1:21:23 >> blaming her. Blaming her saying, "Hey,
1:21:25 it's a it's a just a way to show at
1:21:28 least scale size. What could what could
1:21:30 fit in that space?"
1:21:32 >> So, in general, I I don't play pickle
1:21:34 ball or tennis. I have, you know, a dog
1:21:37 in that pipe. So,
1:21:41 >> just a roll. Um, is there is there a
1:21:45 sense of any sort of easing in this in
1:21:48 the demand for pickle ball or is it
1:21:51 still gaining continuing to gain
1:21:53 momentum?
1:21:55 >> I think we're we're seeing it gain. I I
1:21:58 know the the use of the courts, you
1:22:00 know, all um both tennis courts are now
1:22:04 striped with um um pickleball courts at
1:22:07 Central Park. Those are used um a lot.
1:22:11 Um the courts that we've done here at
1:22:13 Tivven Valley Park I've used a lot. Um
1:22:15 if you go to the community center when
1:22:17 we have open pickle ball um indoor
1:22:20 that's now continues to be super super
1:22:23 popular. So
1:22:25 >> it's not going away
1:22:28 at the same time and and this is what's
1:22:29 interesting too as pickle ball's
1:22:31 expanded you know tennis is seeing a
1:22:32 resurgent a resurgence as well. Uh so
1:22:35 important to note that as as well as we
1:22:37 as we think through racket sports and
1:22:39 again why I want to say we're not
1:22:41 proposing maybe tonight how this gets
1:22:43 striped but I I I would really want to
1:22:46 strongly consider
1:22:48 um you know tennis and pickle ball are
1:22:52 both really really important court
1:22:53 sports that um I think are seeing a
1:22:56 still seeing a degree of growth.
1:23:00 There's actually I was up at Mount
1:23:01 Vernon this weekend. They had on the
1:23:03 outside in one of these parks they had
1:23:05 was bigger than this, but they basically
1:23:07 just took a whole plot of land and just
1:23:10 built like a giant metal leanto over it
1:23:13 and put like eight quarts was packed. I
1:23:16 was there for 12 hours. It was packed.
1:23:22 >> There you go.
1:23:23 >> Still a thing.
1:23:24 >> Yeah.
1:23:25 >> All right. Seeing no other questions. um
1:23:29 more time for a question and discussion.
1:23:31 I really appreciate the conversation
1:23:33 just throughout the presentation. Um uh
1:23:36 really don't mind that at all. Um but
1:23:39 just some other things to consider both
1:23:41 tonight as we further this conversation,
1:23:43 but even in the the week and weeks
1:23:45 ahead. Um other projects um not on this
1:23:49 list that that we should consider. I've
1:23:51 heard a couple. I've heard um turf at
1:23:54 Tibis Valley Park. Um, I've heard a
1:23:57 pool. What are we doing about a pool?
1:23:59 Let's make sure the need for an expanded
1:24:01 pool, it doesn't just get lost um in
1:24:04 this. Um,
1:24:06 again, we talked about it before, but
1:24:09 how might we prioritize um athletic
1:24:12 field sites? Um, and then another
1:24:15 thought to just probe with you all. Um
1:24:18 again, as we have the conversation with
1:24:20 council, uh maybe a couple conversations
1:24:22 in the coming months, public engagement
1:24:24 is going to be really, really important
1:24:25 this spring and summer. And so any uh we
1:24:28 have certainly a lot of ideas on what to
1:24:30 do, but you know, what types of
1:24:32 engagement and outreach do we really
1:24:33 need to consider um for what could be a
1:24:36 really really important summer to be
1:24:38 talking with the community about this?
1:24:40 Diana, I saw your hand up. Hi Diana.
1:24:44 >> Hi. Yes. I know I've spoken a lot. I'm
1:24:46 sorry. And
1:24:49 >> I've been kind of hesitant to speak up
1:24:51 about the turf thing because it seems
1:24:52 pretty universally popular, but um
1:24:58 I just want to ask if part of the
1:25:02 process for
1:25:04 um these turf installations is studying
1:25:08 the environmental impact
1:25:11 >> of long-term installations, especially
1:25:16 Since the problem that the turf is
1:25:18 trying to remediate is um these
1:25:21 saturated fields which means they'll be
1:25:22 sitting right at the level of the water
1:25:24 table. So just a general question about
1:25:28 whether this budget would also include
1:25:30 environmental study.
1:25:34 >> Yes, it absolutely would Diana. So as we
1:25:36 you know any and all these projects all
1:25:38 these projects will need to go through
1:25:39 permitting. So that environmental review
1:25:41 will be important. Um but yes, how and
1:25:44 where we consider putting synthetic turf
1:25:46 in this community is really really
1:25:48 important to ask. Um I think synthetic
1:25:51 turf installations have come a long ways
1:25:53 in making sure that they are more
1:25:55 environmentally friendly both in terms
1:25:57 of how um storm water is addressed um um
1:26:02 how um that water is treated um um again
1:26:07 the use of different infield materials.
1:26:10 Um uh the industry's come a long ways
1:26:12 and we as Isiqua are want to be on the
1:26:15 the front end of that and um get away
1:26:18 from some of the um you know reuse tires
1:26:22 and other um crumb rubber uh that is um
1:26:27 sort of had concerns when it comes to
1:26:29 environment um impacts on salmon some
1:26:32 recent studies have shown. So yes, that
1:26:35 will be a an important part of um the
1:26:39 the work and consideration of turf.
1:26:43 >> Okay, cool. Thank you.
1:26:46 >> Thank you, Chris.
1:26:50 >> Yeah. um kind of a more maybe a higher
1:26:53 level question, but I think one thing
1:26:57 that's being expressed here is
1:27:00 these are great and it's great that
1:27:01 we've got this broad um spectrum of
1:27:05 projects. You know, we're looking at
1:27:06 trails, we're looking at doing stuff in
1:27:08 different geographic locations. Um we're
1:27:11 trying to address what we can within
1:27:14 that estimated, you know, $23 million
1:27:17 budget. Um, and then knowing
1:27:21 that the city is also looking going to
1:27:25 be looking for money for the police
1:27:29 station and city hall um projects that
1:27:33 um are
1:27:35 very much needed. Uh is this is city
1:27:39 council considering
1:27:41 uh maybe polling the the citizens for
1:27:46 their appetite for uh you know like a
1:27:50 bond two or a bond two and three. So we
1:27:53 might have this bond measure that's a
1:27:55 renewal that gets to you know with all
1:27:58 the things you mentioned to 23 million.
1:28:01 Uh and then we measure if there's a an
1:28:04 appetite for hey city do you want a pool
1:28:07 and and or do you want uh you know a re
1:28:11 uh remodeled Tibbitz Valley Park and we
1:28:14 need x amount of dollars and by the way
1:28:17 hey city do you want um
1:28:20 to help the police department have a
1:28:22 functioning police station so you know
1:28:24 police station and a city hall. Uh so is
1:28:27 that being considered at a higher level
1:28:29 to you know
1:28:31 >> Yes.
1:28:32 >> citizens? Yeah. Yes, Chris. Absolutely.
1:28:35 In fact, on April 6th, the the um
1:28:39 council council um they call it the
1:28:41 committee of the whole the cow um is its
1:28:44 acronym. I didn't come up with that. Um
1:28:47 um uh we'll have two topics. First will
1:28:50 be facilities capital. So, the public
1:28:53 safety police city hall discussion and
1:28:55 then this park bond renewal uh will be
1:28:58 happening the same night. Um mayor very
1:29:01 much wants uh to have a conversation
1:29:03 about both of them um and to think
1:29:05 strategically um as you're as you're
1:29:08 saying um
1:29:12 what might be we be going out to voters
1:29:14 for and what do we need to try and fund
1:29:16 uh with you know existing resources that
1:29:19 we have. Um so um you know as this
1:29:24 conversation moves forward and council
1:29:26 considers this um it will be considered
1:29:29 in light of of those other um those
1:29:32 other capital needs and how those other
1:29:34 capital needs will be funded.
1:29:40 >> Thank you.
1:29:41 >> Yep.
1:29:42 >> Thank you, Anna.
1:29:45 >> Yeah. Um sorry I've been so quiet
1:29:48 tonight. Uh this has been a really good
1:29:50 discussion. I just really wanted to
1:29:52 reiterate in my conversation um and kind
1:29:54 of sharing the information from
1:29:58 uh you know last meeting um a lot of my
1:30:02 community and friends did bring up the
1:30:05 pool. So I just kind of wanted to um
1:30:09 throw my throw my two cents in the ring
1:30:12 about that as well. um particularly
1:30:14 people have brought up you know the
1:30:16 inaccessibility of lap swimming um for
1:30:20 the community as a exercise alternatives
1:30:23 particularly for the people that are you
1:30:25 know working and um yeah so I think a
1:30:29 pool expansion is something that people
1:30:30 are really looking forward to and um I
1:30:33 don't know if this bond is the correct
1:30:36 uh place to talk about that or not but
1:30:38 it's definitely something that's come up
1:30:40 a lot
1:30:42 >> it's really good thanks Thanks, Hannah.
1:30:45 I think it's something we need to be
1:30:46 willing to to talk about. And again, if
1:30:49 this moves forward, um, if there is a a
1:30:53 a package of projects, that p I I can
1:30:56 guarantee you that package of projects
1:30:58 will have things on it and will have
1:31:00 things not on it that different people
1:31:02 are going to feel and have opinions on.
1:31:04 And so, um, as a staff person, as a
1:31:08 director, you would have my commitment
1:31:09 to we need to talk about all of it. We
1:31:11 need to be able to say why something was
1:31:14 on and not on and acknowledge kind of
1:31:17 what we started this conversation with
1:31:19 our our needs
1:31:21 needs needs and interests that this
1:31:23 community's identified of what what they
1:31:26 want in their park system um is more
1:31:28 expensive than what this 20ome million
1:31:31 dollars will be able to do. And so, um,
1:31:34 both, you know, Hannah, I appreciate you
1:31:36 adding to that and Katie, your comments
1:31:39 earlier, I think are of really, really
1:31:41 high value.
1:31:45 Jane,
1:31:47 >> yeah, I just wanted to add a plus one to
1:31:49 the uh, pool comment. It's pretty
1:31:52 impossible if you're a working adult to
1:31:55 um not pretty impossible, but the times
1:31:58 are extremely limited if you're a
1:32:00 working adult to uh find lap swim time
1:32:02 at the pool. Um so I you know totally
1:32:06 agree with that. Um and I'm assuming
1:32:10 that part of our community engagement
1:32:12 outre outreach strategy will include
1:32:14 some kind of social media component to
1:32:17 that.
1:32:18 >> Yes,
1:32:19 >> absolutely.
1:32:21 Great. Thank you.
1:32:25 >> You ever done a survey where we asked
1:32:28 them to force rank
1:32:31 the projects? So like for example, you
1:32:33 have that list together
1:32:35 >> instead of saying this one bond for the
1:32:38 swimming pool or this one bond for tits
1:32:40 like this is how much we have and this
1:32:41 is how much it might cost and you force
1:32:43 rank the survey, right? And then that's
1:32:46 those are the five or six projects that
1:32:48 we go forward when we bond and someone's
1:32:49 like yeah I remember I bring these three
1:32:51 high and then it just automatically
1:32:53 passes. Right.
1:32:54 >> Um
1:32:56 I've done I've done it in my career. I
1:32:58 don't know how much is done it but it's
1:33:01 it's certainly something we should
1:33:03 consider. Um
1:33:06 >> talk about community engagement is I
1:33:09 don't think always our community
1:33:10 engagement is a representative sample of
1:33:12 our community. So like that's the
1:33:15 trade-off.
1:33:15 >> So like who who like one if I get a
1:33:18 whole bunch of my people who really are
1:33:19 in athletic fields to like
1:33:22 >> right like that's not you know what I
1:33:26 >> that's also democracy in action too.
1:33:28 Marlene nailed it and that's where I was
1:33:30 going to go is if if you do a force rank
1:33:32 survey like that that you're really
1:33:33 saying this is going to greatly inform
1:33:37 decisions we make. You'd want to spend
1:33:39 the extra money and do a scientific
1:33:41 sample um survey, right? Which is more
1:33:45 expensive, a lot more moving parts to
1:33:48 make sure you're getting a good
1:33:52 as best representation of the community
1:33:54 as you can as you can get. And so most
1:33:56 of the quick surveys we do are not, you
1:34:00 know, scientific, you know, when we put
1:34:01 up the QR code on the trails, you know,
1:34:04 those are not a scientific sample
1:34:07 survey.
1:34:08 >> Yeah, it's a data point. I'm just
1:34:10 wondering because I mean that that is
1:34:11 true. If you do rally your community,
1:34:13 then maybe that is what the community
1:34:15 wants and the people that don't care
1:34:16 don't vote, right? So
1:34:18 >> yeah, it's both sides.
1:34:21 >> Yeah. Yeah.
1:34:26 Wow, great discussion you all. I really
1:34:29 really appreciate it.
1:34:32 Any other thoughts, comments? I can give
1:34:34 a a little close.
1:34:38 I guess my next one is Tim had mentioned
1:34:40 not loving the dog part because
1:34:42 everybody like like and I know this is I
1:34:44 was just curious for the rest of us like
1:34:46 I could kind of take or leave the dog
1:34:47 part of Tim like I'm just kind of
1:34:49 curious like that one got added after
1:34:52 last week's disc last discussion and
1:34:54 there's some emails around it.
1:34:56 >> I'm just curious like
1:34:57 >> how are how are people feeling about the
1:34:59 dot part? I think it was, you know,
1:35:01 years ago, even before the pandemics, I
1:35:03 mean, there was a lot of interest in
1:35:07 getting a dog park activities
1:35:09 >> and and I know, you know, it's people
1:35:11 feel one way or another, but the reality
1:35:13 is is that even it not being a dog park
1:35:16 now, you go there and you see,
1:35:19 >> you know, dogs running, you know, um,
1:35:22 off leash all the time. So, um, so the
1:35:26 need is there. And now as we're building
1:35:28 more apartments complex just across the
1:35:31 street, um we're going to have more
1:35:34 dogs. And then, you know, at at least
1:35:36 with a dog park, I mean, people know
1:35:38 that there's a they go there and they
1:35:40 have a dog, but now with there's no dog
1:35:42 park, you got unleashed and maybe
1:35:44 untrained dogs running around and you've
1:35:47 got kids playing and and whatnot, you
1:35:49 know, or you have dog who um who are
1:35:52 reactive and so now you it just I I feel
1:35:55 like yes, you know, if you personally
1:35:58 feel I have my dog, I can't take my dog,
1:36:01 but but I feel that that the need is
1:36:05 there and people come up
1:36:08 >> is being used as off leash area as is
1:36:10 right as you said
1:36:12 >> and it came in pretty high on the list I
1:36:14 think too didn't engagement
1:36:17 >> I think there's some piece I'm I'm not a
1:36:19 pet on the market to the mall but um
1:36:23 like I think there's some piece of if
1:36:27 you are doing some type of um
1:36:30 reinvisioning of of Tibbitz is you have
1:36:34 a lot more.
1:36:36 You don't see people walking dogs at
1:36:38 Central Park because there's always
1:36:39 other stuff going on on the fields and
1:36:42 there's people always playing out there
1:36:44 and there's much more dedicated sport
1:36:47 activity. So maybe a dog park is high.
1:36:50 But but to the point of
1:36:53 maybe your the comment the conversation,
1:36:56 excuse me, of like TIV is kind of an off
1:36:59 leash dog park is if it was reinvisioned
1:37:02 as something else. That's not an
1:37:04 opportunity people have to I'm going to
1:37:05 walk my dog down to Tibbitz and throw a
1:37:08 ball in field one.
1:37:09 >> Yeah. More diversity of use creates that
1:37:12 natural surveillance if you will that
1:37:14 it's not Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't my
1:37:17 dog too much running around anymore
1:37:22 using it.
1:37:25 I I don't know. I
1:37:28 don't really have an opinion.
1:37:30 Really enjoy watching all my neighbors
1:37:31 walk their dogs and squawk on them.
1:37:37 >> Well, my closing comment is this. We're
1:37:39 not done with this conversation. So,
1:37:40 thank you. Um u you know I'll provide
1:37:45 you all an update with you know how the
1:37:47 conversation goes with council on the 6.
1:37:49 You're all welcome to either come or
1:37:52 listen in or watch uh those are I
1:37:55 believe live um on Isiqua TV. Um but
1:37:58 would um again just appreciate your
1:38:01 thoughts and continued conversation with
1:38:03 your neighbors and spheres of influence.
1:38:06 Um it's it's an important opportunity
1:38:09 and important conversation for for this
1:38:12 community to have. So appreciate it.
1:38:15 Thanks.
1:38:20 >> Good.
1:38:22 I think yeah, as you noted, those are
1:38:24 only regular business.
1:38:29 Is your director's report somewhat
1:38:31 substantial or is it
1:38:33 >> I just want to make sure we're allowing
1:38:35 time for other
1:38:37 >> Yeah. No, I'm
1:38:39 >> Yeah.
1:38:41 >> Uh, excellent. We'll move on to the
1:38:44 director report.
1:38:45 >> All right. Thanks, Ryan.
1:38:47 >> To be succinct, I've done enough
1:38:49 talking. Um, uh, park rules um,
1:38:53 conversation. Thank you so much for
1:38:55 that. We are u preparing to um engage
1:38:59 the community through a survey not
1:39:00 scientific sample but um a survey to
1:39:04 really begin to gauge feedback. Tim I
1:39:06 want to say thank you very very much for
1:39:08 uh just having a chance to look at um
1:39:10 the survey itself and gave some great
1:39:12 feedback to Dale Marky Crimp and Laura
1:39:16 will be working side by side with Dale
1:39:18 in that in that effort. Uh but um no, in
1:39:21 the next really couple of days uh next
1:39:24 week, we should have um some of those
1:39:27 same uh sort of yard signs that we put
1:39:30 up throughout our trail and park system
1:39:32 with a QR code inviting our residents to
1:39:36 uh partake in a a pretty quick survey to
1:39:39 give us their thoughts on park rules and
1:39:40 what's important to them and make sure
1:39:42 as we're beginning to draft something,
1:39:44 we're um hearing what the community has
1:39:46 to say. There'll be a social media uh
1:39:48 blast of some news flash that'll be
1:39:50 coming out from our communications team.
1:39:53 Um also um and then once that survey is
1:39:56 done and compiled and Dale and Laura
1:39:59 able to sort of review that and start to
1:40:02 pull together um some ideas and start
1:40:05 framing up some actual rules and
1:40:07 regulations, we'll come back to all of
1:40:08 you. Um probably have at least two more
1:40:11 conversations before asking you to make
1:40:14 a a recommendation.
1:40:16 um and then taking those on to city
1:40:17 council. So um more to come and just
1:40:21 again thanks Tim. Appreciate that.
1:40:24 Uh one last one, sorry I just saw my my
1:40:27 other note. Uh we were talking school
1:40:29 district and our partnership there. Uh
1:40:31 again that relationship is really
1:40:32 growing and really important. Uh great
1:40:35 news. The joint use agreement, the draft
1:40:37 um I think is in its final uh review. We
1:40:41 got a few final comments from the
1:40:43 district. We provided them a few final
1:40:44 com u com comments. Um our city attorney
1:40:48 is now looking at it. Uh we would hope
1:40:51 uh by sometime in April. In fact, right
1:40:53 now there's a goal for a joint school
1:40:55 district or school board and city
1:40:57 council meeting, not for the sole
1:40:59 purpose, but a joint meeting. They're
1:41:01 trying to meet annually to talk about a
1:41:02 number of things. Uh but if we line this
1:41:05 up, uh it'd be great at that joint
1:41:07 meeting to have um both the school board
1:41:09 and the city council adopt that joint
1:41:12 use agreement um that same night. So um
1:41:16 I know that's been some work and some
1:41:17 review that you all have given us over
1:41:20 these last couple months. Um I think
1:41:22 we're in the final final home stretch
1:41:24 there.
1:41:27 >> Excellent. Thank you,
1:41:31 >> Nick. How you doing? What you got for
1:41:32 us? Yeah, I was just going to comment on
1:41:35 the um park board removal just um
1:41:39 one thing I think the um all-inclusive
1:41:42 park idea I think it was Tibbitz um I
1:41:45 think
1:41:47 >> was like a good idea um I toured last
1:41:50 year I went to a accessible inclusive
1:41:53 playground in Seattle and called the
1:41:56 Pathways Park
1:41:57 >> and uh the community really uh enjoyed
1:42:01 it and uh a lot of good work was
1:42:03 involved. So I just think inclusive
1:42:06 parks are really important. Um and then
1:42:11 like I've been I've used the foam pool
1:42:14 and I agree that uh definitely the lane
1:42:16 space and just there's just not a lot of
1:42:19 time to uh find open lap swim. So uh
1:42:24 that's an important thing. Um and then I
1:42:28 guess um the other thing I would say is
1:42:32 uh the the pickle ball courts. Um there
1:42:37 is um like a student at Gibson who is
1:42:40 trying to run a pickle ball club um at
1:42:44 the community center,
1:42:45 >> but I'm sure they would definitely like
1:42:48 it just uh reaffirms like definitely
1:42:50 there's a need for uh pickle ball and a
1:42:53 lot of you obviously are doing it. So
1:42:58 yeah, that's some of the comments.
1:43:00 >> That's really great. And thanks.
1:43:04 Yeah, if the younger generation is uh
1:43:06 falling in love with pickle ball that uh
1:43:08 it's probably it's here to stay.
1:43:16 >> I didn't have too much include. I did
1:43:18 want to call out um our colleague Stacy
1:43:20 V McKinstry
1:43:22 did uh notify various boards of the um
1:43:26 Pickering Barn uh solar project
1:43:30 ribbon cutting which will be April 7th
1:43:34 at 2:00 p.m. which is a pretty cool
1:43:36 project. I think she includ includes
1:43:38 some statistics on the power generation
1:43:41 and stuff on that. So um if you have
1:43:43 opportunity to go support um that
1:43:46 project that'd be exciting.
1:43:50 Otherwise is there anything else anyone
1:43:52 has they'd like to add in or final
1:43:57 conversation on?
1:43:58 >> One final good of the order. Again Laura
1:44:01 welcome. I know I think you've you've
1:44:03 seen name tags, but can we quickly just
1:44:06 do a welcome maybe just introduce
1:44:08 yourself and how long you've lived in
1:44:11 Squa, how long you've been part of the
1:44:12 park board. Uh Laura can have a second
1:44:15 to introduce herself as well, but um
1:44:18 maybe can we start here and well
1:44:20 actually can we start up on the screen?
1:44:23 Um Chris, do you want to
1:44:29 >> happily Yeah. Hi. Um, my name is Chris
1:44:32 Kovak. I have been a resident of Isiqua
1:44:35 for 25 years. Actually, 26 almost now.
1:44:40 And I run my business from Isqua as
1:44:43 well. And I started board service on the
1:44:48 Friends of Lake Sam State Park a long
1:44:50 time ago. I did about four or five years
1:44:52 there. And then joined uh the Isqua Park
1:44:56 board I think eight or nine years ago.
1:44:58 So, I think my term is up in 2027
1:45:02 and that's it.
1:45:05 >> Thanks, Chris. Diana,
1:45:09 >> um, am I supposed to give all the same
1:45:12 pieces of information
1:45:16 >> or what's the format here?
1:45:19 >> Oh, just just introduce yourself and how
1:45:21 long you've you've lived in aqua, how
1:45:23 long you've been part of the park board.
1:45:25 Just introducing yourself to Laura.
1:45:29 Okay. Um,
1:45:31 my name is Diana.
1:45:33 I have
1:45:35 been a member of the park board for
1:45:37 about a year. What were the other parts?
1:45:39 How long I've lived in Isiqua? Was that
1:45:41 part of it?
1:45:43 >> I'm failing this. I'm sorry.
1:45:48 >> I've lived in Isiqua for
1:45:51 seven years. What else did Chris say?
1:45:56 >> that that was it. That's great.
1:45:58 >> Okay, great. Great.
1:45:59 >> Awesome, Diana. Thank you.
1:46:02 >> Hey, Jamie.
1:46:06 >> Hi, Diana. Nice to meet you. Um, I've
1:46:09 been a resident of Visco. This will be
1:46:10 20 years since my husband and I moved
1:46:13 from Washington DC to the Pacific
1:46:15 Northwest and we picked Isiqua. Uh,
1:46:18 never looked back. And I've been on the
1:46:21 park board for a little over a year.
1:46:26 and Hannah.
1:46:28 >> Hi, I'm Hannah. Here, let me turn on my
1:46:30 camera. It's kind of scary here, but hi.
1:46:34 Um, I've been in Isiqua since 2020. So,
1:46:38 that's about what, five and a half, six
1:46:40 years. I've been on the parks board for
1:46:43 just about a year, which is kind of
1:46:45 exciting.
1:46:47 And, um, gosh, was there anything else?
1:46:50 I know I also need a teleprompter,
1:46:52 Diana.
1:46:54 I'm just excited to be here.
1:46:56 >> Great.
1:46:59 >> We love hybrid meetings, don't we?
1:47:03 >> I'm convinced of this. We we during the
1:47:05 pandemic, we we transitioned well to
1:47:08 virtual meetings. I think we've always
1:47:10 had in-person meetings. Well, but hybrid
1:47:12 is it's the hardest type of meeting to
1:47:17 Ryan.
1:47:17 >> Yeah. Hello. Uh we've met before, but
1:47:19 I'm Ryan Olsson. uh been in his club for
1:47:21 eight years and uh been on park board
1:47:24 for I think three or four and a year as
1:47:27 the chair.
1:47:30 >> Hi Laura, I'm Tim and much like Ryan,
1:47:33 I've been in Nisqua eight years, been on
1:47:35 the park board four years, also
1:47:37 volunteer at Mount Rineer National Park.
1:47:41 >> David, um been here since 2017, so
1:47:44 almost nine years. um have a kid at
1:47:47 Sunset.
1:47:49 Been on the board for about four years.
1:47:52 >> I'm Katie and um I'm in Isaba for 22
1:47:57 years. I have two um kids at Isaba High
1:48:01 School and uh this is my fifth year. I
1:48:04 just got into
1:48:13 >> My name is Nick. I'm a senior at Gibson
1:48:16 Lake High School. Um I've lived here my
1:48:19 whole life and
1:48:21 uh started this is the third meeting
1:48:24 I've joined.
1:48:28 >> Hi, nice to meet you. I'm Marlene. I
1:48:30 join I've been in Isqua since 2016 and I
1:48:33 joined in 2018. So it's been a while.
1:48:38 Well, I'm Lauren Hos and um I'm this
1:48:41 group has been a fun one to start to get
1:48:44 to know and and the the incredible work
1:48:46 you guys have been doing. Um I come from
1:48:48 the University of Washington School of
1:48:49 Public Health. I spent my um whole
1:48:52 career at different departments and
1:48:54 roles at the University of Washington.
1:48:57 Um but I've been I'm live in the
1:48:59 neighboring city of Samish and my
1:49:01 parents have been up uh living there
1:49:03 since before it was a city. So mid 80s
1:49:06 and my kids go to Blackwell Elementary
1:49:09 in Spanish. So know the area very well
1:49:12 and really excited to work in the
1:49:15 community. So
1:49:17 >> and uh thank you for for doing that.
1:49:20 Really appreciate it you guys.
1:49:24 >> Well, our next meeting is April 27th.
1:49:30 >> You looked like you had something else
1:49:31 to say.
1:49:32 >> I did. Well,
1:49:32 >> I don't mean to pause. So,
1:49:36 continue on me. I'm just terrible. I I
1:49:40 we've covered so much tonight. Um we
1:49:43 might have a conflict on the 27th. Um we
1:49:45 might be spread a little thin as staff.
1:49:48 Um more to come. If that there's a
1:49:50 chance that school board and city
1:49:53 council meeting might be on the 27th as
1:49:55 well. Um so, um yes, the next meeting is
1:49:59 scheduled on the 27th. If for some
1:50:01 reason we may need to consider to move
1:50:02 it, we'll send that out um quickly.
1:50:05 >> As I understand it, the park board will
1:50:07 be bumped for the school board
1:50:12 on the record. Put it on the record.
1:50:15 >> So, so question about that. When we move
1:50:17 a meeting, often times it gets moved to
1:50:19 a different day like Tuesday. I've got a
1:50:21 standing obligation on Tuesday. Would it
1:50:23 be possible get moved to a Monday just
1:50:25 week or a week later? Yeah. Just put
1:50:28 that down there.
1:50:29 >> Yeah. Oh, we Yeah. Some
1:50:32 >> Yeah. Yeah. I think it's
1:50:34 >> an option.
1:50:37 >> Survey monkey.
1:50:38 >> Force range.
1:50:39 >> Sorry. Survey. Survey.
1:50:44 >> Gabble this puppy.
1:50:46 >> With no further business, this meeting
1:50:48 is adjourned.
1:50:50 >> Thanks everybody.
1:50:52 >> Thanks everyone.
1:50:53 >> Thank you.
1:50:53 >> Good night all.