Development Commission · Thursday, March 3, 2022 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Commission Membership

packet pp.5

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Staff report:

DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION Staff Liaison Lucy Sloman, Land About Development Manager Created in 1983, this commission reviews all Email Lucy Sloman land use actions requiring a Level 3 review. The Commission further serves as an advisory Regular Members board to the City Council on land use actions 2022 – Michael Brennan requiring council approval (Level 5 review). 2022 – Richard Sanford 2022 – Richard Sowa The appearance of fairness doctrine prohibits 2023 – Patty Dillon Development Commission members and City 2023 – Brooke Shore Council members from discussing the merit of 2024 – Kevin Price specific land use development applications 2024 – Vacant outside of the formal public meeting process. Citizens, however, may discuss any issue with Alternate Members the City's Development Services

2. PUBLIC HEARING

Site Development Permit, Master Site Plan, Five Administrative Adjustments of Standards, (D) Application Nos.: PRJ19-00008, SDP20- AAS21-00001, AAS21-00002 (Updated Parcel Nos.: 1624069031, 1624069001

Cristina Haworth, Planning Consultant Todd Sawin, AHBL · packet pp.7–183

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

LAND USE APPLICATION PROJECT NO. PRJ19-00008 FILE NOS. SDP20-00001, MSP20-00001, AAS20-00012, AAS21-00001, AAS21-00002, AAS21-00005, & AAS20- 00006 Issue Date: February 16, 2022

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0:00 ↗ of the issaquah development commission

0:02 ↗ to order it is

0:03 ↗ 701.

0:05 ↗ so welcome um and due to the virtual

0:07 ↗ format of today's meeting and that we

0:09 ↗ have a number of community members who

0:11 ↗ would like to speak to the commission

0:12 ↗ tonight we'd like to give just a few

0:15 ↗ guidelines

0:16 ↗ so first of all if you are participating

0:19 ↗ um

0:20 ↗ by computer

0:22 ↗ we have people on computer and those are

0:23 ↗ on phone if you are on phone please

0:27 ↗ speak clearly

0:29 ↗ speak frequent pause frequently state

0:31 ↗ your name each time before you speak

0:33 ↗ mute your microphone when you're not

0:35 ↗ speaking uh and if you are having

0:37 ↗ technical difficulties you can join the

0:39 ↗ meeting using a different device like a

0:41 ↗ smartphone or a tablet and there is

0:43 ↗ always the option to use the call-in

0:45 ↗ number that is provided on the meeting

0:47 ↗ materials

0:48 ↗ so the overview tonight is that the

0:51 ↗ meeting is a

0:52 ↗ what we have on the agenda is a

0:53 ↗ continuation of the public hearing for

0:56 ↗ the providence heights school project

0:58 ↗ this is a quasi-judicial matter

1:01 ↗ um lucy would you please take attendance

1:02 ↗ of the commission this evening

1:05 ↗ yes chair brennan

1:07 ↗ i'm here

1:09 ↗ commissioner sanford

1:15 ↗ commissioner dillon

1:17 ↗ here

1:18 ↗ commissioner shore

1:20 ↗ here

1:21 ↗ commissioner price is excused

1:25 ↗ commissioner ikeda right here

1:28 ↗ commissioner morgan

1:29 ↗ here

1:31 ↗ note that both alternate uh oh sorry

1:35 ↗ um thanks lucy so i i'll i'll make that

1:38 ↗ point that we have both alternate

1:41 ↗ commissioners morgan and al-qaeda are

1:43 ↗ serving as regular commission members

1:45 ↗ this evening do the resignation

1:48 ↗ of one of the regular commission members

1:50 ↗ and the recusal

1:52 ↗ of another regular commission members so

1:55 ↗ uh commissioners morgan and al-qaeda

1:56 ↗ will be serving in the regular capacity

1:59 ↗ this evening

2:00 ↗ but we don't have any meetings minutes

2:02 ↗ to approve this evening so we can move

2:04 ↗ on to the next topic uh which is

2:07 ↗ an opportunity at every development

2:08 ↗ commission

2:10 ↗ meeting where the rules allow for the

2:12 ↗ public to comment i'd like to

2:14 ↗ open the floor for any members of the

2:16 ↗ public that would like to come in on a

2:18 ↗ topic that is not currently before the

2:19 ↗ commission

2:21 ↗ at tonight's public hearing so if you

2:22 ↗ have a comment that you would like to

2:24 ↗ make that's not related to the to the

2:26 ↗ public hearing in the schools project

2:28 ↗ this is your opportunity if you are here

2:30 ↗ to speak on the school's project we'll

2:32 ↗ have an opportunity in just a few

2:33 ↗ minutes uh so if uh you are here and you

2:37 ↗ are not on a computer just press star 3

2:40 ↗ on your phone if you are on a computer

2:42 ↗ just use the virtual raised hand

2:44 ↗ function

2:45 ↗ lucy let me know if we have anybody that

2:47 ↗ has raised their hand

2:53 ↗ i don't see anyone great thank you

2:56 ↗ so we will move on then to the primary

2:58 ↗ topic the main topic of tonight's agenda

3:02 ↗ we will be continuing the public hearing

3:04 ↗ that commenced last evening on master

3:07 ↗ site plan and i get to read all the

3:08 ↗ numbers again

3:09 ↗ uh msp 20-001

3:14 ↗ and site development permit sdp 20

3:17 ↗ dash

3:20 ↗ and five administrative adjustments of

3:22 ↗ standards

3:23 ↗ um those include aas20-00012

3:29 ↗ aas 21-0

3:33 ↗ aas21-0002

3:38 ↗ aas21-0005

3:42 ↗ and aas 21-0

3:48 ↗ for the providence height project

3:51 ↗ the order of tonight's

3:53 ↗ hearing will be we'll go through the

3:55 ↗ appearance of fairness doctrine

3:57 ↗ doctrines again this evening

3:59 ↗ and then we will continue with the

4:02 ↗ questions from the commission to the

4:04 ↗ applicant there were some remaining

4:06 ↗ questions so we will address those

4:09 ↗ then we'll move to opening the public

4:11 ↗ comment so an opportunity for the public

4:13 ↗ who have

4:14 ↗ signed up to speak to the commission

4:17 ↗ and will continue to take

4:20 ↗ uh public comment this evening however

4:22 ↗ if the public hearing will likely be

4:24 ↗ continued till march 16th to receive

4:26 ↗ rebuttal by the applicant and staff

4:29 ↗ following the rebuttal the public

4:31 ↗ hearing will be closed and then the

4:33 ↗ commission will deliberate and take

4:35 ↗ action before concluding the agenda item

4:38 ↗ so

4:39 ↗ first of all we need to go through the

4:41 ↗ formalities of the appearance of

4:42 ↗ fairness disclosures

4:44 ↗ lucy please proceed with the questions

4:46 ↗ and the commissioners about the

4:47 ↗ appearance of fairness doctrine

4:51 ↗ thank you mr chairman

4:54 ↗ so

4:54 ↗ a quasi-judicial proceeding needs to be

4:58 ↗ both fair in fact and appearance similar

5:00 ↗ to a courtroom setting

5:03 ↗ ex-parte contacts are prohibited those

5:05 ↗ are contacts outside of the hearing

5:08 ↗ between a decision maker and an opponent

5:10 ↗ or proponent of the matter at hand

5:13 ↗ if such communications have occurred

5:15 ↗ record of the substance of the

5:16 ↗ communication must be placed on the

5:18 ↗ record to allow interested parties the

5:21 ↗ right to rebut the substance of the

5:22 ↗ communication the test would be if a

5:26 ↗ disinterested person having been

5:28 ↗ apprised of the totality of a

5:30 ↗ decision-maker's personal interest in

5:32 ↗ matter

5:33 ↗ being acted upon

5:35 ↗ could be reasonably justified in

5:36 ↗ thinking that partiality may exist

5:39 ↗ decision makers who have personal

5:41 ↗ interest pre-judgment of the issues or

5:44 ↗ partiality are disqualified from the

5:46 ↗ proceedings

5:48 ↗ i will now ask that the commissioners

5:50 ↗ read these questions

5:52 ↗ when you have

5:54 ↗ completed that why don't you just raise

5:55 ↗ your real hand and let me know and

6:05 ↗ okay

6:07 ↗ um i will now take roll call

6:10 ↗ um

6:11 ↗ chair brennan

6:12 ↗ your answer question does no

6:16 ↗ chair uh commissioner sanford no

6:20 ↗ commissioner sowa

6:25 ↗ commissioner soa

6:30 ↗ no

6:32 ↗ commissioner dylan

6:35 ↗ uh as i mentioned last night i

6:37 ↗ my company does have a business

6:39 ↗ relationship with the applicant's

6:40 ↗ engineer

6:42 ↗ however we have no involvement

6:45 ↗ on this project

6:47 ↗ and i have no reservations about my

6:49 ↗ ability to uh judge fairly and answer to

6:53 ↗ the other questions or no

6:54 ↗ thank you

6:56 ↗ uh commissioner brooke at shore

7:00 ↗ no to all

7:02 ↗ uh commissioner ikeda

7:05 ↗ nadal

7:07 ↗ commissioner morgan

7:09 ↗ as i mentioned last time my in-laws live

7:11 ↗ within providence point but i've not

7:13 ↗ discussed the project and i don't feel

7:15 ↗ it would impede my ability to make sound

7:18 ↗ judgment

7:20 ↗ so for the

7:21 ↗ overall question please read that and

7:24 ↗ then i will

7:25 ↗ call the poll again

7:30 ↗ commissioner

7:31 ↗ brennan

7:32 ↗ chair brennan what is your answer

7:35 ↗ yes

7:37 ↗ commissioner sanford yes

7:40 ↗ commissioner soa

7:41 ↗ yes

7:43 ↗ commissioner dylan

7:45 ↗ yes

7:46 ↗ commissioner shaw

7:48 ↗ yes

7:50 ↗ uh commissioner ikeda yes

7:53 ↗ commissioner morgan

7:55 ↗ yes

7:58 ↗ um

7:59 ↗ now is the opportunity if anyone in the

8:01 ↗ audience wishes to challenge the

8:03 ↗ participation

8:05 ↗ of any commissioner based on the

8:07 ↗ appearance of fairness doctrine if you

8:09 ↗ have an objection raise your virtual

8:11 ↗ hand or type objection into the chat

8:14 ↗ window

8:15 ↗ and if you do so we'll call on you and

8:17 ↗ ask you to state the name of the member

8:19 ↗ and the reasons why

8:21 ↗ you

8:23 ↗ believe

8:24 ↗ they should be disqualified

8:29 ↗ i'm just stopping sharing so that i can

8:32 ↗ look

8:40 ↗ i don't see any objections

8:48 ↗ you're muted mike

8:50 ↗ thank you thank you lucy for that

8:54 ↗ um so now um we do want to move on um

8:57 ↗ to um

9:00 ↗ um continuing the questions that we have

9:03 ↗ remaining from commissioners to the

9:05 ↗ applicant following their presentation

9:06 ↗ last night i do know we had some

9:09 ↗ remaining questions from uh commissioner

9:11 ↗ sanford and i believe commissioner uh

9:14 ↗ dillon

9:15 ↗ asked for some additional information or

9:17 ↗ maybe it was

9:18 ↗ commission

9:19 ↗ um sure i don't remember sorry uh ask

9:22 ↗ for some additional information believe

9:24 ↗ commissioner shore thank you on uh some

9:26 ↗ of the drainage um and drainage flows

9:28 ↗ from

9:29 ↗ the um from the site

9:31 ↗ so i will

9:33 ↗ turn it back to commissioner sanford and

9:36 ↗ just continue with your questions

9:39 ↗ thank you chairman um

9:43 ↗ my questions regarded uh sound and the

9:45 ↗ sound study so

9:47 ↗ perhaps this is for the green bush group

9:49 ↗ and i'll put it to the applicant at

9:51 ↗ large and they can decide

9:53 ↗ uh this is richard sanford by the way

9:55 ↗ i'm sorry i should introduce myself

9:57 ↗ first

9:58 ↗ uh in the sound study attachment 46 last

10:01 ↗ night

10:03 ↗ i was asking whether the sound from

10:05 ↗ 228th avenue southeast

10:08 ↗ had been included in the measurements as

10:10 ↗ part of the baseline

10:11 ↗ and i see from appendix b of that

10:14 ↗ attachment that i believe it was on page

10:18 ↗ b1

10:19 ↗ so

10:20 ↗ i understand the sound from the street

10:22 ↗ was included as part of the sound

10:24 ↗ measurement baseline

10:26 ↗ but my question then was that

10:29 ↗ as we're enlarging the access road to

10:32 ↗ the property from what's essentially a

10:35 ↗ small two-lane road to

10:37 ↗ four to five lanes um and it's we're

10:41 ↗ moving trees to do that and there are

10:43 ↗ retaining walls on either side like i

10:46 ↗ was wondering couldn't we assume

10:49 ↗ that that change would almost act as a

10:52 ↗ funnel increasing that sound from 228

10:56 ↗ up toward

10:57 ↗ the providence point area

10:59 ↗ and

11:00 ↗ i was wondering was that

11:02 ↗ future 2b state included in the model at

11:05 ↗ all or

11:06 ↗ could that to be state even be modeled

11:09 ↗ at all

11:13 ↗ yes thank you for the question um we do

11:15 ↗ have green bush with us tonight with

11:16 ↗ adam jenkins with green bush so uh he's

11:20 ↗ gonna take that question thanks

11:22 ↗ thank you very much my name is adam

11:24 ↗ jenkins

11:26 ↗ with the green bush group you need an

11:27 ↗ address

11:30 ↗ no you can proceed okay very good thank

11:33 ↗ you nice to be with you all tonight

11:35 ↗ i appreciate the question uh so

11:38 ↗ just to affirm uh commissioner sanford's

11:40 ↗ first half of of the

11:42 ↗ of the statement there yes the existing

11:44 ↗ ambient noise conditions

11:46 ↗ that were reported in the

11:48 ↗ in the uh study that was also updated in

11:51 ↗ attachment 48 as an addendum

11:53 ↗ with updated project information did

11:56 ↗ include all noise sources that were

11:58 ↗ existing at the site

11:59 ↗ aircraft barking dogs traffic on the

12:02 ↗ roadway

12:03 ↗ they didn't filter out for any specific

12:05 ↗ source so yes everything was included in

12:07 ↗ capturing those existing baseline noise

12:09 ↗ measurements

12:10 ↗ as far as sound emissions on 228 itself

12:14 ↗ they were not predicted as a part of the

12:17 ↗ noise study the noise study focused

12:19 ↗ on noise sources within the site

12:22 ↗ perimeter that are subject to

12:24 ↗ the uh

12:25 ↗ the applicable noise code which is

12:28 ↗ specifically specific to operations

12:30 ↗ within the boundary

12:33 ↗ the traffic on 228th is exempt from the

12:37 ↗ element of the noise code that we're

12:38 ↗ reviewing pursuant to this particular

12:41 ↗ project

12:42 ↗ now as far as the reflecting of sound

12:44 ↗ back over to providence point goes

12:47 ↗ actually any improvement or any

12:50 ↗ increase of screening so that would be

12:52 ↗ blocking of line of sight whether it's

12:54 ↗ through

12:55 ↗ retained fill and retaining walls or

12:57 ↗ build up of the site or any screening

12:59 ↗ elements

13:00 ↗ would actually be expected to reduce

13:03 ↗ sound levels at providence point

13:05 ↗ compared to a condition where the

13:07 ↗ construction didn't exist

13:10 ↗ so i hope that answers that part of the

13:11 ↗ question uh if there's any any follow-up

13:14 ↗ or any uh lack of clarity i'd be happy

13:16 ↗ to clarify further

13:18 ↗ okay so

13:19 ↗ in your view

13:20 ↗ the

13:23 ↗ clearing of additional

13:25 ↗ terrain and

13:28 ↗ the widening of the access road from 228

13:31 ↗ up the hill to the property

13:34 ↗ would not

13:37 ↗ create a substantial increase in sound

13:41 ↗ volume from the road below onto the

13:44 ↗ property because we're really talking

13:45 ↗ about the property here and

13:47 ↗ modifications that are occurring on the

13:50 ↗ property

13:53 ↗ that's correct i wouldn't expect those

13:55 ↗ those modifications that you're speaking

13:57 ↗ of to present any substantial increase

13:58 ↗ or effects that

14:00 ↗ that traffic noise levels received at

14:02 ↗ the providence point receptor

14:04 ↗ thank you

14:06 ↗ uh now if i could i'd like to go on to

14:08 ↗ attachment 49 it's on football field

14:10 ↗ acoustics

14:13 ↗ and uh it it discusses the loudspeakers

14:16 ↗ there and the types and

14:18 ↗ the type of sound that comes from them

14:21 ↗ and uh so i'm quoting with all 24

14:23 ↗ loudspeakers operating at the same time

14:26 ↗ sound levels of the neighboring property

14:28 ↗ lines are expected to exceed code limits

14:31 ↗ so there are there are to be then 24

14:34 ↗ speakers on the track football field

14:37 ↗ area is that correct

14:42 ↗ yes that's my understanding

14:44 ↗ okay and i guess there are at least two

14:47 ↗ types of the speakers there's the

14:49 ↗ community r1 and r5 and then there's the

14:52 ↗ bogan

14:53 ↗ type of speaker

14:55 ↗ and

14:56 ↗ it says that

14:59 ↗ the bogan speaker can likely operate at

15:02 ↗ the proposed 4 watts

15:04 ↗ we recommend sound level measurements of

15:06 ↗ the system be made after its

15:08 ↗ installation and so on

15:10 ↗ and so is the recommendation to operate

15:12 ↗ the bogan speakers at 4 watts

15:17 ↗ we

15:18 ↗ we expect that that will

15:20 ↗ comply with with the code requirement

15:23 ↗ but as a part of the condition

15:25 ↗ of one of one of the conditions i

15:27 ↗ believe it is condition

15:29 ↗ number

15:32 ↗ standby

15:33 ↗ you're around 38 and 39 i imagine

15:36 ↗ uh yes i had it highlighted sorry i

15:39 ↗ switched screens so from the staff

15:41 ↗ report

15:44 ↗ condition 39 yes sir will require

15:48 ↗ measurements of

15:49 ↗ of the

15:50 ↗ of the sound system to ensure that it's

15:52 ↗ tuned tuned properly and my

15:55 ↗ understanding is we also have a

15:56 ↗ requirement in the in the specifications

15:58 ↗ of the construction documents as a part

16:00 ↗ of commissioning the sound system

16:02 ↗ the subcontractor that is doing that

16:04 ↗ would verify those sound levels as they

16:07 ↗ are tuning the system

16:08 ↗ so that's the expectation that it will

16:11 ↗ if there's any exceedances of code

16:12 ↗ regardless of what the initial

16:14 ↗ sound

16:15 ↗ power taps the sound level sound power

16:18 ↗ settings are of the loudspeakers

16:21 ↗ if if anything exceeds the limits they

16:23 ↗ would be reduced so whether they start

16:25 ↗ at four

16:26 ↗ and go down to two or start at two it

16:28 ↗ would be verified that they comply with

16:30 ↗ the code limits of the property okay so

16:32 ↗ the bogans can be operated at four watts

16:35 ↗ and it also says that

16:37 ↗ the two community type speakers may be

16:39 ↗ limited to one watt

16:42 ↗ i don't see that in the report whether

16:44 ↗ it says that can the community speakers

16:46 ↗ even be operable at one watt

16:49 ↗ yes yes if they're limited to one watt

16:51 ↗ uh we would we're predicting

16:54 ↗ uh compliance with with code limits so

16:56 ↗ there's there's a lot of

16:57 ↗ uh

16:58 ↗ conservativeness built into our noise

17:00 ↗ models so i would expect that when

17:02 ↗ they're actually con

17:03 ↗ commissioning the system they'll likely

17:05 ↗ be able to run them hotter than that but

17:07 ↗ we fully expect one walk conditions for

17:09 ↗ those loudspeakers to to result in a

17:11 ↗ compliant condition okay okay great

17:14 ↗ and one other along this line what about

17:16 ↗ the high school band during a game

17:19 ↗ was that included in any way in the

17:20 ↗ noise study is there a way to model that

17:22 ↗ because often at nighttime events we're

17:24 ↗ going to have the band out there right

17:28 ↗ yes commissioner sanford i understand

17:30 ↗ that but no it was not modeled as a part

17:32 ↗ of the noise study

17:34 ↗ um

17:35 ↗ one of the exemptions in the in the code

17:38 ↗ is

17:40 ↗ for public events

17:42 ↗ which

17:43 ↗ um you know a marching band

17:46 ↗ at a football game may be considered

17:48 ↗ that but

17:49 ↗ aside from that uh potential exemption

17:51 ↗ no with sound levels from marching bands

17:54 ↗ we're not analyzed just sound levels

17:56 ↗ from the pa system itself

17:59 ↗ okay thank you and those are all my

18:01 ↗ questions on noise at this time um

18:03 ↗ later on perhaps during our

18:05 ↗ deliberations i have some questions on

18:07 ↗ these same points on conditions 38 and

18:10 ↗ 39

18:11 ↗ for the city and possibly isd but i'll

18:13 ↗ defer those until later thank you

18:18 ↗ right so there'll be an opportunity

18:19 ↗ after the rebuttal comments following

18:21 ↗ the um the public

18:23 ↗ uh hearing portion of this or the public

18:26 ↗ um speaking portion of this uh public

18:28 ↗ hearing uh and when we're in

18:29 ↗ deliberations we will just have to go

18:31 ↗ with the information that we that we

18:33 ↗ have both public comment the documented

18:35 ↗ record uh and what we've seen in the

18:37 ↗ presentation so just a reminder about

18:40 ↗ the process to the commission um if

18:42 ↗ there are other uh commissioner dylan

18:45 ↗ noted that she uh no longer has uh

18:48 ↗ questions so if there are but if there

18:50 ↗ are other commissioners that have

18:51 ↗ remaining questions for the applicant

18:53 ↗ now is your opportunity

18:55 ↗ to do that

18:57 ↗ just

18:58 ↗ just either speak up or or just no

19:01 ↗ question in the chat

19:09 ↗ so hearing none

19:11 ↗ um this is the opportunity now for

19:13 ↗ public comment

19:14 ↗ so i want to just kind of introduce this

19:17 ↗ part of the public hearing

19:19 ↗ um

19:20 ↗ we're going to open the the meeting for

19:22 ↗ public comment and know that we have

19:24 ↗ received over 200 written comments

19:26 ↗ after the staff report and project

19:28 ↗ packet were issued these have been

19:31 ↗ forwarded to the development commission

19:32 ↗ for their consideration and added to the

19:34 ↗ record uh including those that we

19:36 ↗ received today

19:39 ↗ the city has signed a sign up sheet link

19:41 ↗ linked to this meeting agenda and per

19:44 ↗ the commission rules we will begin with

19:46 ↗ those people who have signed up to speak

19:49 ↗ staff will announce the next three

19:51 ↗ speakers on the sign up list so you're

19:53 ↗ prepared when it's your turn to speak

19:56 ↗ when it is your turn

19:58 ↗ you will then be moved up to be a

20:00 ↗ panelist and once you are moved up you

20:02 ↗ may then unmute your microphone

20:04 ↗ turn on your video state your name and

20:07 ↗ your relationship to the city then

20:09 ↗ proceed to give your comments

20:11 ↗ please mute your microphone when you are

20:14 ↗ finished giving your comments

20:16 ↗ just wanna

20:17 ↗ just remind people that personal attacks

20:20 ↗ obscene

20:21 ↗ language derogatory remarks and

20:23 ↗ disruptive behavior will not be

20:25 ↗ tolerated

20:26 ↗ if you do not respond after your name or

20:29 ↗ phone number is called or

20:32 ↗ your connection is lost unexpectedly

20:35 ↗ the meeting will need to proceed forward

20:37 ↗ you are encouraged though to rejoin the

20:39 ↗ meeting if you reply that is possible

20:43 ↗ based on the number of anticipated

20:45 ↗ speakers

20:46 ↗ all comments and questions will be

20:48 ↗ limited to three minutes this evening

20:50 ↗ and you will only be allowed to speak uh

20:53 ↗ one time

20:54 ↗ this will allow everyone who is signed

20:56 ↗ up to speak

20:58 ↗ uh and um

21:00 ↗ and uh staff uh in all fairness to to

21:03 ↗ all of the speakers staff will be

21:04 ↗ tracking the tracking your time and let

21:07 ↗ you know when your three minutes are

21:08 ↗ complete

21:10 ↗ you'll have uh you'll be notified at 30

21:12 ↗ seconds

21:13 ↗ uh remaining in your time and a buzzer

21:16 ↗ will sound when your time has concluded

21:19 ↗ speakers who do not quickly conclude

21:21 ↗ after your time is called we'll ask you

21:24 ↗ to stop and you may be muted so again

21:26 ↗ we're trying to allow everybody an

21:28 ↗ opportunity to participate there are a

21:29 ↗ number of people who want to speak

21:31 ↗ we're trying to make sure that we have a

21:33 ↗ fair process

21:35 ↗ to allow that to occur and we're being

21:37 ↗ efficient with everybody's time this

21:39 ↗ evening

21:39 ↗ in addition speakers will not be allowed

21:41 ↗ to give time to uh time to or borrow

21:44 ↗ time

21:45 ↗ from other speakers who have not used

21:47 ↗ their allotted time

21:49 ↗ to make efficient use of your time you

21:52 ↗ may reference a previous speaker with

21:54 ↗ whom you agree rather than repeating the

21:56 ↗ same comments or you may waive your

21:58 ↗ opportunity to speak

22:00 ↗ we will accept public comment up comment

22:02 ↗ up until 10 pm

22:04 ↗ any additional individuals who have

22:06 ↗ signed up to speak but are not able to

22:09 ↗ comment tonight

22:10 ↗ will be called um at a future meeting

22:12 ↗ which um we currently have uh scheduled

22:15 ↗ for

22:16 ↗ um march 16th so we will try to get

22:20 ↗ through hopefully all of the speakers

22:22 ↗ this evening but there will be an

22:23 ↗ opportunity on the 16th to speak if

22:27 ↗ there are some remaining

22:29 ↗ that have not had an opportunity

22:31 ↗ so

22:33 ↗ while the rules allow the commissioners

22:34 ↗ to ask questions of the audience members

22:37 ↗ during the public comment

22:39 ↗ in the interest of time and fairness to

22:41 ↗ all speakers commissioners may wish to

22:43 ↗ limit or refrain from asking questions

22:45 ↗ if that's possible

22:47 ↗ so trisha

22:49 ↗ we

22:50 ↗ the city clerk will

22:52 ↗ call the first three speakers and then

22:55 ↗ again call the next three speakers so

22:56 ↗ that we can efficiently move uh the

22:59 ↗ speakers through the process

23:00 ↗ so

23:04 ↗ chairman brennan um since we didn't get

23:07 ↗ to the uh i'm running it tonight um tish

23:10 ↗ is just here for a short period of time

23:12 ↗ giving me some assistance

23:14 ↗ i'm going to move up the first three

23:17 ↗ speakers

23:18 ↗ um i'm i'll move i'll not only call them

23:20 ↗ but move them up together

23:23 ↗ i just want speakers to know that i will

23:25 ↗ give you a 30 second warning

23:28 ↗ and then a timer will go off

23:30 ↗ at

23:31 ↗ three minutes

23:35 ↗ the first speaker is um

23:39 ↗ dave osmer

23:44 ↗ i'm going to unmute you um mr osmer

23:51 ↗ feel free to turn on your

23:56 ↗ camera if you'd like and proceed with

23:58 ↗ your comments

24:05 ↗ well i'm not i'm not seeing myself so

24:08 ↗ we can see

24:10 ↗ i'm just gonna can you hear me yes

24:13 ↗ okay i'm just gonna go

24:16 ↗ um good evening commissioners

24:18 ↗ i'm william osmer known to my friends as

24:21 ↗ dave i live in issaquah

24:23 ↗ i have great empathy for the daunting

24:25 ↗ task you have before you

24:27 ↗ when i lived in issaquah back in the 70s

24:29 ↗ i'd shared your predecessor commission

24:31 ↗ the design commission for several years

24:34 ↗ but never faced anything remotely close

24:36 ↗ to the scale or complexity of this

24:38 ↗ proposed project so thank you for your

24:40 ↗ willingness to serve in this capacity

24:42 ↗ and for giving careful consideration to

24:44 ↗ this proposals many shortcomings

24:47 ↗ first of all i'm pleased that per

24:48 ↗ chairman brennan's comment at the

24:50 ↗ beginning of last night's hearing you

24:52 ↗ intend to read all the public comments

24:54 ↗ submitted on this proposal before

24:56 ↗ deliberating

24:58 ↗ thank you for doing so

24:59 ↗ this proposal is fatally flawed for many

25:02 ↗ reasons i will focus on one of them

25:04 ↗ contrary to the staff report and isd's

25:07 ↗ claims this proposal

25:09 ↗ is

25:10 ↗ not most certainly not compatible with

25:13 ↗ the surrounding neighborhoods as

25:15 ↗ required by imc section 1807 480. no

25:19 ↗ other high school in this squad district

25:22 ↗ has a 35 foot tall grandstand structure

25:26 ↗ and two large ball fields located this

25:28 ↗ close to residential housing

25:30 ↗ as a result they will create

25:33 ↗ very significant adverse effects

25:35 ↗ on these neighborhoods including

25:37 ↗ substantial increases in the volume of

25:39 ↗ stormwater discharged from the

25:41 ↗ grandstand's huge impervious surfaces

25:44 ↗ as well as significant visual noise and

25:46 ↗ nighttime light intrusions on nearby

25:49 ↗ properties written public comments have

25:51 ↗ pointed out the weaknesses erroneous

25:53 ↗ code interpretations and incorrect

25:55 ↗ analyses and conclusions by isd of noise

25:59 ↗ and other impacts

26:01 ↗ thus the adverse impacts of the proposed

26:03 ↗ grandstand ball fields and spectator

26:05 ↗ amenities which in some places are

26:07 ↗ located less than 150 feet from

26:10 ↗ neighboring residences is far greater

26:12 ↗ than reported these impacts are not even

26:15 ↗ close to being acknowledged let alone

26:17 ↗ mitigated by the proposed plans

26:19 ↗ furthermore the district persists in

26:21 ↗ spending taxpayer money for this

26:23 ↗ grandstand and spectator amenities when

26:26 ↗ the entire project is 78 million dollars

26:30 ↗ over budget and for a facility that will

26:32 ↗ be used at capacity only four or five

26:35 ↗ times a year

26:36 ↗ there is absolutely no logical reason

26:38 ↗ for not sharing skyline high stadium for

26:41 ↗ interscholastic competition it sits

26:44 ↗ empty half the friday nights of football

26:47 ↗ season

26:48 ↗ much less intrusive

26:50 ↗ much less intrusive

26:52 ↗ less impactful and far less expensive

26:55 ↗ facilities could then be provided on the

26:57 ↗ proposed site for team practices and pe

27:00 ↗ classes contrary to mr thiele's

27:02 ↗ assertion last night we have never

27:05 ↗ suggested that students should be bus to

27:07 ↗ skyline for practices in pe

27:09 ↗ please at least require the applicant to

27:12 ↗ remove this eye store grandstand from

27:14 ↗ this design or better yet deny this

27:17 ↗ ill-conceived proposal altogether thank

27:19 ↗ you for your attention

27:25 ↗ thank you mr osmer

27:27 ↗ uh the next two speakers are roger

27:29 ↗ anderson and

27:31 ↗ daniel

27:34 ↗ i'm going to unmute um

27:37 ↗ mr anderson

27:41 ↗ you you don't have to call me mr

27:42 ↗ anderson

27:44 ↗ oh shoot i just lost my hang on one sec

27:46 ↗ i gotta get i gotta grab my uh

27:49 ↗ there it is so my name is roger anderson

27:51 ↗ you all know that um i've been most

27:53 ↗ recently a resident of this squad for

27:55 ↗ about three years but that's after being

27:57 ↗ uh in north bend for 35 years

28:00 ↗ and actually a graduate of a squad high

28:02 ↗ school several years ago i started a new

28:05 ↗ business and became a substitute bus

28:07 ↗ driver uh to help supplement income

28:09 ↗ while things got going and worked in

28:11 ↗ that capacity

28:12 ↗ up until this school year for isd so

28:15 ↗ i've driven to every school in the

28:16 ↗ district both morning and afternoon and

28:18 ↗ i'm really familiar with both traffic

28:20 ↗ patterns and volumes and i'm just gonna

28:23 ↗ i'm gonna guess that no one who drives

28:24 ↗ second avenue in issaquah 228th and some

28:27 ↗ amish or patriot way in renton

28:31 ↗ during the school start and stop times

28:33 ↗ would disagree with any statement that

28:35 ↗ that

28:36 ↗ that talks about traffic mitigation

28:38 ↗ that may or may not have been done in

28:40 ↗ those areas being totally totally

28:42 ↗ inadequate and i guess the question is

28:45 ↗ what's you know what's going to be the

28:46 ↗ difference moving forward

28:48 ↗ a question was asked last night by one

28:49 ↗ of the commissioners about the increase

28:52 ↗ in cut through traffic at southeast 40th

28:54 ↗ to get from 228th over to the issaquah

28:57 ↗ pine lake road

28:58 ↗ i you know i really couldn't believe the

29:00 ↗ answer from the traffic consultant she

29:02 ↗ essentially said that they'd considered

29:04 ↗ that possibility but suspected that

29:06 ↗ there wouldn't be a significant increase

29:07 ↗ because

29:08 ↗ uh traffic in that area was already uh

29:12 ↗ what was already being you know served

29:14 ↗ by the schools there was there were bus

29:15 ↗ traffic and and you know the the

29:17 ↗ students in that area we you know

29:20 ↗ covered those schools

29:21 ↗ um and i

29:23 ↗ i don't think

29:25 ↗ that a consideration was taken for

29:29 ↗ the

29:30 ↗ additional traffic that's going to be

29:32 ↗ you know caused because of the slowdowns

29:35 ↗ starting at southeast 32nd on the

29:38 ↗ pine lake road right there at the uh at

29:40 ↗ the uh the traffic circle you you drive

29:43 ↗ into a

29:44 ↗ a school zone with sunny hills you leave

29:48 ↗ that you go drive directly into a school

29:50 ↗ zone for

29:51 ↗ pine lake middle school

29:53 ↗ at that point you get to the the the

29:55 ↗ traffic light the intersection at uh

29:57 ↗ isco pine lake road in 228

30:00 ↗ which

30:01 ↗ you know in in in the the drive times is

30:04 ↗ you know certainly near capacity

30:07 ↗ currently

30:08 ↗ um

30:09 ↗ you take a left and head towards the new

30:10 ↗ site you're still in the pine lake

30:12 ↗ middle school traffic zone and now we

30:13 ↗ want to create

30:15 ↗ another school speed zone um

30:18 ↗ or uh you know for the for the new

30:19 ↗ school site so it creates a huge area um

30:25 ↗ where

30:26 ↗ um you know for two three four hours a

30:28 ↗ day the traffic is going to slow to it

30:30 ↗ to a turtle's pace um

30:33 ↗ yeah that's that's over a mile and a

30:35 ↗ half of of total distance

30:37 ↗ um and i'm almost out of time so i'm

30:39 ↗ just going to jump to the very end so

30:41 ↗ that's just one example of um you know

30:43 ↗ the the big elephant in the room the the

30:46 ↗ biggest elephant the bull elephant i

30:48 ↗ think is the fact that we don't have any

30:50 ↗ permission i should say y'all don't have

30:52 ↗ any permits

30:53 ↗ uh or easements from the city of amish

30:56 ↗ at this point so i would ask you please

30:58 ↗ to uh to uh hold back on this put the

31:01 ↗ brakes on it no pun intended

31:06 ↗ uh

31:08 ↗ daniel sreebney i'm going to mute you

31:11 ↗ i just did it and hopefully you can hear

31:13 ↗ and see me and thank you lucy for that

31:16 ↗ valiant effort to pronounce a very

31:17 ↗ difficult last name

31:19 ↗ i am daniel sreevny i'm proud to be a

31:22 ↗ resident of issaquah

31:24 ↗ um before i make my statement focusing

31:27 ↗ on security concerns of the proposal

31:29 ↗ you're considering i first have to

31:31 ↗ respond to a statement made to you at

31:33 ↗ the top

31:34 ↗ of the school district's presentation

31:36 ↗ yesterday

31:37 ↗ the superintendent told you we've tried

31:40 ↗ as best as possible to be responsible to

31:42 ↗ community concerns

31:44 ↗ i'm afraid that that statement is simply

31:46 ↗ not accurate

31:48 ↗ the fact is that school representatives

31:51 ↗ and officials have frequently rejected

31:53 ↗ ignored avoided or obfuscated legitimate

31:56 ↗ concerns and reasonable requests

31:59 ↗ made by individual citizens and

32:01 ↗ concerned organizations including many

32:04 ↗ of the issues you're considering

32:06 ↗ right now

32:08 ↗ and we can provide examples of that many

32:10 ↗ of us on the call tonight

32:12 ↗ if you want those but i want to focus on

32:16 ↗ the fact that the proposal and staff

32:18 ↗ report you were reviewing this week

32:20 ↗ contains serious security flaws and if

32:22 ↗ you permit the plan to go ahead as

32:24 ↗ submitted you will share responsibility

32:26 ↗ for putting the safety and well-being of

32:28 ↗ students staff and adjacent residents at

32:30 ↗ risk

32:31 ↗ the staff report mentions a combination

32:34 ↗ of fencing and retaining walls around

32:36 ↗ the school facilities to enhance

32:38 ↗ security but no mention is made of the

32:40 ↗ need for perimeter fencing to ensure

32:43 ↗ that individuals and groups present on

32:44 ↗ the property are unable to cross easily

32:47 ↗ into the adjoining over 55 community

32:50 ↗ in fact the staff report goes on to

32:52 ↗ state the application has indicated

32:54 ↗ fencing will be installed around the

32:56 ↗ perimeter of its facilities but not on

32:58 ↗ the property line except for a portion

33:00 ↗ along 228th avenue south southeast the

33:04 ↗ importance of such fencing is reinforced

33:06 ↗ by the fact that the proposed project

33:07 ↗ will not only be used by students but

33:09 ↗ will be open to community use after out

33:12 ↗ school hours and on the weekend

33:14 ↗ basically an open invitation for anyone

33:16 ↗ to get easy access to a vulnerable gated

33:19 ↗ community of issaquah residents

33:22 ↗ the project planners could also easily

33:24 ↗ have included basic elements of crime

33:26 ↗ prevention through environmental design

33:28 ↗ cpted

33:30 ↗ which other school districts have

33:31 ↗ successfully used but the application

33:34 ↗ simply states that cpded was quote not

33:37 ↗ applicable

33:38 ↗ i also want to express my concern over

33:40 ↗ the fact that the plan has only a single

33:42 ↗ major way to get into and out of the

33:44 ↗ property with a designated emergency

33:46 ↗ lane that would be inadequate in the

33:48 ↗ event of a real crisis

33:50 ↗ unfortunately we are all familiar with

33:52 ↗ natural disasters in this area

33:54 ↗ and also sadly know of the potential

33:56 ↗ attacks on schools

33:58 ↗ and this must be addressed so please

34:00 ↗ vote against the current plan require a

34:02 ↗ plan that includes appropriate perimeter

34:04 ↗ fencing such as eight foot fencing with

34:06 ↗ client-proof features along the

34:08 ↗ perimeter adjacent to providence point

34:10 ↗ community demand that the plan includes

34:12 ↗ cpt

34:14 ↗ elements requiring effective security

34:16 ↗ camera

34:17 ↗ surveillance system and the posting of

34:19 ↗ no trespassing and security measure

34:21 ↗ signage demand a plan that offers at

34:23 ↗ least two primary access routes i thank

34:26 ↗ you very much for your consideration of

34:28 ↗ these points

34:32 ↗ the next three speakers are uh roberta

34:35 ↗ brown

34:36 ↗ david miller and diane

34:40 ↗ exerdae i'm sure i've slaughtered that

34:42 ↗ name i apologize um

34:45 ↗ ms brown i am a meeting you please

34:48 ↗ proceed

34:50 ↗ thank you very much

34:52 ↗ i would like to speak to the fact that i

34:55 ↗ am a strong supporter of seeing a 21st

34:58 ↗ century beautiful high school built at

35:02 ↗ providence heights

35:05 ↗ that however is not the case of the

35:08 ↗ current proposal

35:10 ↗ i'm going to express two concerns

35:12 ↗ tonight

35:13 ↗ first

35:14 ↗ the proven presence of lead and pcbs is

35:18 ↗ excluded from the staff report

35:20 ↗ environmental considerations on page 62.

35:25 ↗ extensive testing for lead well below 20

35:28 ↗ 12 inches and throughout the property as

35:32 ↗ called for in the pbs engineering and

35:35 ↗ environmental incorporated study and in

35:38 ↗ its october 12 2021 update

35:42 ↗ simply must be completed and documented

35:46 ↗ before

35:48 ↗ the proposal can be deemed to satisfy

35:51 ↗ this code requirement

35:54 ↗ there is no reason for the applicant to

35:57 ↗ have continued to refuse to carry out

36:00 ↗ these simple required tests all for

36:04 ↗ repeatedly

36:05 ↗ by issac class community planning and

36:08 ↗ development department

36:10 ↗ it is well known that the department

36:12 ↗ that the property was home to a

36:14 ↗ reinforced concrete college campus built

36:17 ↗ in the late 1850s

36:20 ↗ thus laden with pcbs and led

36:23 ↗ and that the for-profit owner

36:27 ↗ church home

36:28 ↗ escaped and i'm saying escaped

36:32 ↗ the required cipa review

36:34 ↗ prior to seeing to its demolition

36:37 ↗ on the grounds of a religious exemption

36:43 ↗ now this sipa pre-demolition review

36:46 ↗ would have been the normal means for

36:48 ↗ detecting and removing contaminants

36:52 ↗ in his response however to your

36:54 ↗ expressions of concern yesterday evening

36:57 ↗ mr sawin flippantly suggested

37:01 ↗ that they will just shave off the top 12

37:04 ↗ inches and then shave off more if

37:06 ↗ further testing

37:08 ↗ shows it's needed that's further testing

37:11 ↗ after the application is accepted

37:14 ↗ and then this only in the immediate

37:17 ↗ water tower area

37:20 ↗ until yet further testing has been

37:22 ↗ completed

37:23 ↗ as the property and legal contracts

37:26 ↗ drawn up for professional removal

37:29 ↗ approval of the proposed sdp would

37:33 ↗ simply be unconscionable

37:37 ↗ thank you very much and i have lots more

37:39 ↗ to say and you can see that in my

37:41 ↗ comment letters and thank you for your

37:43 ↗ work on this project

37:46 ↗ thank you miss brown

37:48 ↗ the next speaker is

37:50 ↗ david miller

37:52 ↗ mr miller i'm a muting you feel free to

37:54 ↗ turn on your camera

38:01 ↗ i'm trying to turn on the camera and

38:03 ↗ [Music]

38:05 ↗ i see you

38:06 ↗ okay

38:08 ↗ what i'd like to say is uh first of all

38:11 ↗ thank you for allowing me the

38:13 ↗ chance to speak

38:15 ↗ i think

38:16 ↗ watching yesterday's hearing i was

38:19 ↗ impressed with the the really nice

38:22 ↗ design that the design team came up with

38:25 ↗ but it impressed upon me that there was

38:28 ↗ a lot of dodging and darting and asking

38:30 ↗ for exemptions and lots of we just

38:33 ↗ barely met the code and things like that

38:35 ↗ that

38:36 ↗ indicated to me we're trying to shoehorn

38:38 ↗ this

38:39 ↗ this project into

38:41 ↗ too small a space

38:43 ↗ and i i googled the acreage for high

38:46 ↗ schools today and it said

38:48 ↗ several sources said that for 2000

38:51 ↗ students you would need 40 to 48 acres

38:54 ↗ and yet

38:55 ↗ we have a high school and an elementary

38:58 ↗ school on 40 acres

39:01 ↗ now since the start of the issaquah

39:03 ↗ school district's plans have put the

39:05 ↗ squeeze on providence points

39:08 ↗ 55 plus community in the bellwood

39:10 ↗ retirement community

39:12 ↗ the districts two proposed schools

39:15 ↗ plus the sports stadium and sports

39:17 ↗ fields are just too much built structure

39:20 ↗ for this 40-acre site

39:22 ↗ the proposed buffers between the schools

39:25 ↗ and these residential communities were

39:26 ↗ inadequate to begin with and the school

39:29 ↗ district's plans

39:30 ↗ would eliminate many of the trees

39:32 ↗ shielding

39:34 ↗ two communities from the schools in fact

39:37 ↗ their plans would remove about three

39:39 ↗ acres of mature trees replacing some of

39:41 ↗ them with much younger and smaller trees

39:44 ↗ elimination of a huge number of mature

39:46 ↗ trees which have been on the property

39:48 ↗ for many decades is contrary to the

39:51 ↗ city's newly released climate action

39:53 ↗ plan

39:54 ↗ furthermore the plant does not provide

39:57 ↗ for adequate irrigation of the buffer

39:59 ↗ that they're leaving

40:01 ↗ uh and that buffer should have three

40:03 ↗ years of irrigation after planting we

40:06 ↗ don't see any uh

40:08 ↗ any plan for that and we are worried

40:11 ↗ that the trees they do

40:13 ↗ a do plant and other vegetation might

40:16 ↗ die from lack of water

40:18 ↗ finally the district's plans include

40:20 ↗ leveling the site and dumping tons of

40:22 ↗ fill on the proposed site for the now

40:24 ↗ delayed elementary school

40:26 ↗ placing high and unsightly retention

40:29 ↗ walls between their property and the

40:31 ↗ residential communities

40:33 ↗ i thank you for the opportunity to speak

40:40 ↗ thank you

40:45 ↗ all right um

40:47 ↗ diane

40:50 ↗ x-ray day i'm unmuting you please turn

40:54 ↗ on your camera

40:58 ↗ if you choose

41:02 ↗ we can just barely hear you

41:05 ↗ okay is the video working

41:07 ↗ i don't see you at this time but feel

41:10 ↗ free to proceed with your comments

41:12 ↗ there we see you

41:14 ↗ wonderful

41:15 ↗ uh good evening commissioner and staff

41:17 ↗ lucy

41:18 ↗ um i'm here to comment about the

41:21 ↗ treatment of public comments

41:25 ↗ in the staff report

41:27 ↗ the staff report gives short trip

41:30 ↗ to public comments and states that many

41:32 ↗ comment letters were received but this

41:35 ↗ is an understatement as hundreds of

41:37 ↗ comments were received

41:39 ↗ either went unanswered or have been

41:42 ↗ summarily rebutted

41:44 ↗ i refer to attachment number 88 all

41:48 ↗ other public comments a file of 840

41:52 ↗ pages

41:54 ↗ this includes public comments from 2021

41:57 ↗ and responds to the cepa determination

42:00 ↗ of non-significant

42:02 ↗ our community has maintained since 2019

42:06 ↗ that an environmental impact statement

42:08 ↗ was imperative to the acceptance of a

42:11 ↗ significant project

42:13 ↗ the school district has stepped

42:14 ↗ steadfastly refused to comply

42:17 ↗ and has ignored these community comments

42:21 ↗ their august

42:23 ↗ 2021 determination of noun significance

42:27 ↗ was withdrawn in order to make it more

42:30 ↗ defensive

42:31 ↗ although superintendent feely asserted

42:34 ↗ in a school board meeting that they

42:36 ↗ won't get what they want

42:38 ↗ they in this instance refers to

42:40 ↗ providence point

42:42 ↗ i encourage you to sample some of these

42:44 ↗ letters they are respectful

42:46 ↗ thoughtful and well written

42:50 ↗ attachment number 83

42:53 ↗ summary memo from the 7 15 2020

42:57 ↗ community meeting

43:00 ↗ and that the school district makes their

43:02 ↗ point

43:03 ↗ that documenting community comments and

43:06 ↗ responses by staff

43:09 ↗ is

43:10 ↗ school this week is not required by

43:12 ↗ issaquah municipal code

43:15 ↗ this is an indication that the school

43:16 ↗ district in this process is unnecessary

43:22 ↗ number 81 the environmental movement

43:25 ↗ b 32 notes

43:27 ↗ kenny anticipates an environmental

43:30 ↗ impact statement to be prepared the

43:32 ↗ school district responded

43:34 ↗ the school district is at the lead on

43:36 ↗ the ceba review not the city of israel

43:40 ↗ the public's perception of a conflict of

43:42 ↗ interest

43:43 ↗ is based on the school district acting

43:45 ↗ as both a week 30 seconds and the

43:48 ↗ african has not been overcome

43:50 ↗ this was not remedied by their hiring of

43:53 ↗ a private consulting firm in order to

43:55 ↗ rapidly repackage

43:58 ↗ the determination and reissue it as a

44:01 ↗ revised decision on 12-921

44:04 ↗ we can only hope that the school

44:06 ↗ district september

44:14 ↗ and that concludes

44:16 ↗ thank you very much

44:20 ↗ thank you

44:23 ↗ the next speaker is

44:26 ↗ larry franks but he does not appear to

44:28 ↗ be on the call um mr franks if you are

44:33 ↗ here and called in for instance could

44:35 ↗ you raise your hand or in some way

44:37 ↗ indicate

44:39 ↗ that you are available to make comments

44:51 ↗ all right i do not see mr franks the

44:54 ↗ next three speakers are dave wechner

44:57 ↗ joshua cohen and ross

45:00 ↗ tigman

45:01 ↗ tilghman

45:02 ↗ um so we'll begin with dave wechner

45:06 ↗ you're unmuted please proceed

45:15 ↗ thank you

45:17 ↗ let's make an adjustment here

45:20 ↗ my name is dave wekner i'm a land use

45:22 ↗ planet consultant from coop ville and

45:24 ↗ i've been in the planning community

45:26 ↗ development field since 1990.

45:28 ↗ i've held director and interim director

45:30 ↗ positions in two counties and two cities

45:32 ↗ in both oregon and washington

45:34 ↗ i'm here at the request of the

45:35 ↗ providence point neighborhood submitted

45:37 ↗ a report to them which is filed as

45:39 ↗ exhibit three of their written testimony

45:42 ↗ overall i'm concerned that the master

45:44 ↗ site plan does not adequately address

45:46 ↗ your comp plan policies specifically

45:47 ↗ those related to school siting

45:49 ↗ prioritizing buses over cars and sharing

45:51 ↗ use of facilities

45:53 ↗ and the land use policy h-10 that

45:55 ↗ emphasizes development should fit in a

45:57 ↗ natural environment the proposal is on a

46:00 ↗ knoll but rather than blending into the

46:01 ↗ site the plans propose creating an

46:04 ↗ elevated plane

46:05 ↗ by using extensive grading and retaining

46:07 ↗ walls

46:08 ↗ so the ongoing maintenance of the site

46:10 ↗ and ongoing mitigation of impacts due to

46:12 ↗ its position will be challenging

46:15 ↗ some observations on the plans and

46:17 ↗ applicable codes

46:19 ↗ because some amish approval is required

46:20 ↗ for improvements to 28th

46:23 ↗ i believe issaquah should suspend

46:24 ↗ approval until these improvements and a

46:26 ↗ transportation management plan

46:28 ↗ receive approval from sammamish

46:31 ↗ the vegetative buffer to adjoining

46:33 ↗ properties should be established and

46:35 ↗ maintained to ensure the density

46:36 ↗ integrity and function of the buffer

46:39 ↗ serves its purpose and irrigation may be

46:41 ↗ required for that

46:43 ↗ uh the scoreboard proposed for the

46:45 ↗ football and track field is an

46:46 ↗ electronic digital scoreboard and should

46:49 ↗ be regulated by as such by the city sign

46:52 ↗ code uh the largest sign mesoqua is

46:54 ↗ limited to 200 square feet this is 561

46:57 ↗ square feet

46:59 ↗ and the retaining walls will hold

47:00 ↗ significant surcharge and need drainage

47:03 ↗ systems to reduce hydrostatic pressure

47:06 ↗ to assure residents in the city are

47:08 ↗ getting what they were promised

47:11 ↗ the conditions of approval should be

47:12 ↗ clear site-specific standards wherever

47:15 ↗ applicable

47:16 ↗ or an adopted standard per the decision

47:18 ↗ if needed

47:21 ↗ i encourage the commission to look at

47:22 ↗ the conditions of approval proposed in

47:24 ↗ staff report that need attention so the

47:26 ↗ requirements and timing of each

47:28 ↗ condition is clear to the city staff

47:30 ↗ the school district and public at large

47:32 ↗ i'll just read them quickly number one

47:35 ↗ number four number 5

47:38 ↗ 11

47:39 ↗ 12

47:40 ↗ 20

47:41 ↗ 25

47:42 ↗ 27

47:44 ↗ 32

47:45 ↗ 36 number 48

47:48 ↗ number 49

47:49 ↗ and number 53 i

47:51 ↗ understand it's proposed the ccnr didn't

47:54 ↗ follow

47:55 ↗ and those conditions should be

47:58 ↗ identifier issue rule or standard who's

48:00 ↗ responsible for compliance who enforces

48:03 ↗ them

48:03 ↗ and what happens if performance of the

48:06 ↗ ccnr's fails

48:09 ↗ thanks for your time and i appreciate

48:11 ↗ the opportunity to speak

48:18 ↗ next is joshua cohen

48:21 ↗ mr cohen uh had

48:23 ↗ uh

48:24 ↗ a

48:25 ↗ slideshow that he sent

48:28 ↗ uh into me which i emailed to you all uh

48:32 ↗ last evening of about six or seven pm

48:36 ↗ if you're able to find that

48:38 ↗ that would be useful

48:43 ↗ thank you lucy my name is joshua cohen

48:45 ↗ i'm a principal at fat pencil studio we

48:47 ↗ are a design firm in portland oregon

48:49 ↗ specializing in helping stakeholders

48:51 ↗ visualize large-scale public works

48:53 ↗ projects

48:54 ↗ some examples we did 3d graphics for the

48:56 ↗ seattle department of transportation

48:57 ↗ during the capitol hill streetcar

48:59 ↗ expansion

49:00 ↗ and we're currently working with

49:01 ↗ multnomah county in portland to

49:03 ↗ visualize options for the earthquake

49:04 ↗ ready burnside bridge replacement

49:07 ↗ in this case fat pencil was hired by

49:09 ↗ providence point umbrella association to

49:11 ↗ create digital 3d model of the proposed

49:14 ↗ high schools campus and investigate

49:16 ↗ potential visual impacts on this

49:18 ↗ founding community so commissioners you

49:20 ↗ should have received this document that

49:22 ↗ lucy mentioned it's titled exhibits for

49:24 ↗ public testimony of joshua cohen and i

49:26 ↗ encourage you to bring on screen while

49:28 ↗ explain our findings just so you know

49:30 ↗ the source material for these exhibits

49:32 ↗ were publicly accessible aerial

49:33 ↗ photographs and architectural drawings

49:35 ↗ on file with the city

49:37 ↗ the buildings in the 3d model are all

49:39 ↗ drawn to scale and the trees while not

49:41 ↗ intended to be photorealistic are

49:43 ↗ representative of the type and the

49:46 ↗ position

49:47 ↗ of where the trees are actually growing

49:48 ↗ on the site

49:50 ↗ so you'll see in

49:52 ↗ the first exhibit a and b is an aerial

49:54 ↗ photograph or an aerial view from a

49:57 ↗ google earth as well as and be

49:59 ↗ a

50:00 ↗ same aerial view in our model which is

50:02 ↗ built in a program called sketchup

50:05 ↗ exhibit two that same interview aerial

50:07 ↗ view

50:08 ↗ now has the high school project built as

50:10 ↗ currently proposed

50:12 ↗ 2a is the summer 2b is the winter

50:15 ↗ in exhibit 3 we've rotated 90 degrees

50:17 ↗ counterclockwise so we're looking to the

50:19 ↗ east and 3b is that same view at night

50:22 ↗ time highlighting one individual impact

50:24 ↗ which is headlights that would be

50:26 ↗ shining through the tree buffers into

50:28 ↗ the surrounding community

50:30 ↗ next we have a series of before and

50:32 ↗ after images

50:34 ↗ from various points in the providence

50:36 ↗ point community

50:37 ↗ exhibit four a and b

50:39 ↗ is from the highlander building

50:41 ↗ looking toward the scoreboard in the

50:42 ↗ parking garage in the foreground

50:45 ↗ exhibit five is one of the larger condo

50:47 ↗ buildings

50:48 ↗ and we're seeing the back of the grand

50:50 ↗ stand as the closest structure in that

50:52 ↗ exhibit

50:54 ↗ exhibit six is views of the forested

50:57 ↗ hillside uh becoming uh you know the

51:00 ↗ views more of the

51:01 ↗ large high school building in the

51:02 ↗ foreground and the same with seven from

51:04 ↗ a slightly different position

51:06 ↗ and then the last uh exhibit in that

51:08 ↗ packet is

51:09 ↗ um just a google street view image of

51:11 ↗ 228th avenue which um visualizing that

51:15 ↗ was not part of our scope but it is

51:17 ↗ something to remember that there's going

51:18 ↗ to be a major change in that spot

51:21 ↗ so in conclusion i just wanted to

51:23 ↗ mention that most large scale projects

51:25 ↗ public work projects include some type

51:26 ↗ of visual impact study done from the

51:28 ↗ perspective of the surrounding community

51:30 ↗ it doesn't seem that's been done with

51:31 ↗ this project

51:33 ↗ and i also want to mention that a visual

51:35 ↗ impact study does represent an

51:36 ↗ opportunity for collaboration with

51:38 ↗ stakeholders on mitigation measures and

51:40 ↗ i would encourage the commissioners

51:42 ↗ to make this type of visual impact study

51:44 ↗ a condition of their approval thanks for

51:46 ↗ the opportunity

51:56 ↗ all right

51:57 ↗ uh the next is ross

51:59 ↗ tilghman

52:01 ↗ ross i'm going to unmute you you've

52:04 ↗ already muted yourself excellent and um

52:07 ↗ please proceed

52:09 ↗ uh good evening commissioners my name is

52:11 ↗ ross tillman i'm a transportation

52:13 ↗ planner with my own practice and i'm

52:15 ↗ speaking on behalf of the providence

52:16 ↗ point umbrella association

52:20 ↗ and as a past commissioner and chair of

52:23 ↗ the seattle design commission i

52:25 ↗ appreciate the challenge you face in

52:28 ↗ deciding whether a site plan is ready

52:30 ↗ for approval or whether it's not ready

52:34 ↗ and in this case the school district's

52:36 ↗ plan is not ready this site is woefully

52:40 ↗ ill-suited to a school's use there is no

52:43 ↗ pedestrian network anywhere near it

52:46 ↗ there is no bicycle facility near it

52:49 ↗ there is no public transit within a

52:51 ↗ useful distance of the site

52:53 ↗ indeed

52:54 ↗ there are no alternate routes there is a

52:56 ↗ single road for acc

53:10 ↗ we

53:17 ↗ i think

53:18 ↗ are we all having audio problems with mr

53:21 ↗ tim yes

53:22 ↗ yeah ross you may want to turn off your

53:24 ↗ camera

53:25 ↗ that might help

53:44 ↗ what we might do is is it possible to

53:48 ↗ move to the next speaker and then come

53:50 ↗ back to mr

53:51 ↗ tipman um to

53:54 ↗ see if he can

53:55 ↗ correct his connectivity here

53:59 ↗ if not he can always submit his comments

54:01 ↗ directly to the commission

54:03 ↗ sure

54:04 ↗ uh the next uh

54:06 ↗ three speakers

54:09 ↗ ann moore

54:10 ↗ larry wright and walter mcrut

54:13 ↗ mccudden

54:15 ↗ i have um

54:17 ↗ i do not see mr mccudden

54:20 ↗ you are third in line please identify

54:23 ↗ yourself if you're here and i'm just

54:25 ↗ missing your telephone number

54:27 ↗ um

54:28 ↗ and more i'm going to unmute you so that

54:32 ↗ you may

54:33 ↗ proceed

54:34 ↗ and and if you like turn on your camera

54:43 ↗ thank you my name is anne moore and i'm

54:45 ↗ president of the isquas school board

54:48 ↗ first i'd like to thank each of you for

54:49 ↗ serving on the development commission i

54:52 ↗ recognize that as a volunteer you spend

54:54 ↗ countless hours fulfilling your job on

54:56 ↗ this commission

54:57 ↗ although the school board is elected by

54:59 ↗ our community we similarly are

55:01 ↗ volunteers committing considerable time

55:03 ↗ and effort to serve our students and

55:05 ↗ families

55:06 ↗ we also at times have very complex

55:08 ↗ issues to address with considerable

55:10 ↗ input from our community and has been

55:13 ↗ the case over the past two years

55:15 ↗ the input can come from polar opposite

55:17 ↗ ends

55:18 ↗ when it comes down to making a decision

55:20 ↗ it always helps me

55:22 ↗ to remember what my core mission is and

55:24 ↗ that is to provide a high quality

55:26 ↗ educational experience for our students

55:29 ↗ at your core today is the task of

55:31 ↗ reviewing our project for compliance

55:34 ↗ with applicable city code provisions

55:37 ↗ from the comprehensive staff report the

55:39 ↗ city administration recommends approval

55:41 ↗ of the project subject to conditions i

55:44 ↗ urge the development commission to

55:45 ↗ recommend approval to the city council

55:48 ↗ the project designed reflects extensive

55:51 ↗ work in collaboration with city staff

55:53 ↗ and in consideration of concerns we've

55:55 ↗ heard from adjacent property owners

55:57 ↗ like the proposed high school on this

55:59 ↗ property our three existing

56:01 ↗ comprehensive high schools all have

56:03 ↗ residential neighbors

56:04 ↗ the district directed the design team to

56:06 ↗ design a project considering the

56:08 ↗ concerns making efficient use of limited

56:11 ↗ urban property and adhering to code

56:13 ↗ requirements and as always prioritizing

56:16 ↗ optimal learning environments for our

56:18 ↗ students and communities expectations

56:20 ↗ this directive resulted in the

56:22 ↗ district's voluntary investment of

56:24 ↗ approximately three million dollars in

56:26 ↗ design features to substantially exceed

56:29 ↗ code requirements and set aside

56:30 ↗ approximately 6.3 acres of vegetated

56:34 ↗ buffer between the developed portion of

56:35 ↗ the site and adjacent properties to

56:38 ↗ accommodate this we are foregoing or

56:40 ↗ reducing some of the typical programming

56:42 ↗ elements found at our other school sites

56:45 ↗ including eliminating practice fields

56:47 ↗ and reducing the number of tennis courts

56:49 ↗ reducing the size of the baseball field

56:52 ↗ and the elementary school playground and

56:54 ↗ eliminating our ability to expand the

56:56 ↗ elementary school building in the future

56:59 ↗ the design also uses orientation and

57:01 ↗ operational measures throughout the site

57:03 ↗ to further minimize sound and activity

57:06 ↗ toward adjacent properties

57:08 ↗ these compromises are in direct response

57:10 ↗ to the input and concerns we heard from

57:12 ↗ our neighboring property owners

57:15 ↗ students deserve quality schools with

57:18 ↗ adequate space and program capacity and

57:21 ↗ is now is the time to move forward after

57:23 ↗ years of planning to address that need

57:26 ↗ we appreciate your careful consideration

57:28 ↗ of this project and the evaluation of

57:30 ↗ its compliance with applicable city code

57:33 ↗ provisions i urge the development

57:35 ↗ commission's recommendation of approval

57:38 ↗ thank you

57:43 ↗ thank you ms moore

57:45 ↗ uh the next speaker is larry wright

57:50 ↗ i'm going you're a muting

57:52 ↗ feel free to turn on your camera if you

57:54 ↗ choose

57:56 ↗ my name is larry wright and i live at

57:57 ↗ providence point as you know providence

57:59 ↗ point is a 55 and older residential

58:01 ↗ community that has a 3 000 foot border

58:04 ↗ with the subject property thank you for

58:06 ↗ all your effort you put into this and

58:08 ↗ we'll put it to this project all done as

58:10 ↗ a civic minded volunteers from

58:13 ↗ experience i know this type of

58:14 ↗ volunteerism

58:16 ↗ it can be a thankless job

58:18 ↗ to understand our concern my best advice

58:20 ↗ to each of you is if you haven't

58:22 ↗ go take a look at our property and the

58:24 ↗ subject property why

58:25 ↗ unlike most projects that you have seen

58:28 ↗ you can't drive by and look because you

58:30 ↗ cannot see where the schools are going

58:31 ↗ to be built because of the hill and the

58:33 ↗ trees the property is posted with no

58:35 ↗ trespass signs so you cannot walk the

58:38 ↗ property and as of today we don't know

58:40 ↗ how the property will be assets because

58:43 ↗ isd has failed to make a deal with the

58:45 ↗ city of samamish on the work on on 228th

58:50 ↗ the only way that you can see the

58:51 ↗ property is to enter our great gated

58:52 ↗ community and drive along the perimeter

58:56 ↗ as you know my community

58:58 ↗ is a major boundary line neighbor over

59:01 ↗ on our over 160 acres we have a thousand

59:04 ↗ living units occupied by approximately

59:06 ↗ fourteen hundred senior citizens

59:08 ↗ with an average age of seventy seven

59:11 ↗ their parents grandparents

59:12 ↗ great-grandparents were retired doctors

59:15 ↗ lawyers engineers business professionals

59:17 ↗ teachers school administrators college

59:19 ↗ professionals high ranking federal and

59:21 ↗ state officials many of us moved here to

59:23 ↗ be close to our family whose children

59:25 ↗ are in our schools we are certainly

59:27 ↗ people who treasure education

59:32 ↗ last night we listened to the issaquah

59:33 ↗ school district superintendent ron thiel

59:35 ↗ give his

59:36 ↗ uh version of our relationship and

59:39 ↗ discussions with providence point and

59:40 ↗ then after the presentation of christina

59:42 ↗ hardworth we watched and listened to the

59:44 ↗ school district's development team

59:46 ↗ it was very interesting

59:48 ↗ we have asked that our legal

59:49 ↗ representative have an opportunity to

59:51 ↗ have have an amount of time commensurate

59:53 ↗ with theirs so we can express our

59:55 ↗ concerns i understand that that's under

59:57 ↗ your rules i think you should reconsider

59:59 ↗ this we have experts who have ti need

1:00:02 ↗ time to explain our position

1:00:04 ↗ we only get three minutes per speaker

1:00:05 ↗ how can we present a coherent picture

1:00:08 ↗ when each speaker is so limited

1:00:11 ↗ this is an enormous 190 million dollar

1:00:13 ↗ project which as we said here today is

1:00:15 ↗ some 77 million dollars underwater

1:00:18 ↗ others have and will discuss many

1:00:20 ↗ technical issues i want you to think

1:00:22 ↗ about fairness or at least the

1:00:24 ↗ appearance of fairness fairness to the

1:00:26 ↗ residents of providence point 30 seconds

1:00:29 ↗ fairness to the isd fairness to the city

1:00:32 ↗ and fairness to yourselves

1:00:33 ↗ are you getting a coherent citizen

1:00:35 ↗ opinion on a 5 000 page staff document

1:00:38 ↗ you were given only days ago

1:00:41 ↗ is this hearing conducted to give you

1:00:42 ↗ all the important facts in such a way

1:00:44 ↗ that you can make a fair informed and

1:00:46 ↗ just decision

1:00:49 ↗ do not be stampeded by the isd's desire

1:00:52 ↗ to start construction

1:00:53 ↗ isd has been

1:00:55 ↗ in complete control this project for

1:00:56 ↗ years timing and all

1:00:58 ↗ their proposed construction timetable

1:01:00 ↗ does not override

1:01:02 ↗ liberation obligations don't be rushed

1:01:04 ↗ thank you

1:01:10 ↗ okay the next um speaker is walter

1:01:14 ↗ mccudden

1:01:15 ↗ i do not see mr mccutten

1:01:18 ↗ the next three speakers are timothy

1:01:21 ↗ brown

1:01:23 ↗ mark taylor and michelle williams

1:01:28 ↗ and looking for telephone numbers i do

1:01:31 ↗ not see timothy brown or mark taylor's

1:01:35 ↗ names

1:01:37 ↗ or

1:01:38 ↗ telephone numbers if you are here please

1:01:41 ↗ uh identify yourself

1:01:48 ↗ okay um

1:01:50 ↗ ms williams uh you are uh i'm going to

1:01:56 ↗ unmute you you um are on a device that i

1:01:59 ↗ cannot make you a presenter but i can um

1:02:04 ↗ make it possible for you to speak please

1:02:06 ↗ proceed

1:02:08 ↗ thank you very much

1:02:10 ↗ as a retired teacher and principal i

1:02:12 ↗ have supported public schools for over

1:02:15 ↗ 30 years

1:02:16 ↗ i worked in the issaquah school district

1:02:19 ↗ after retiring

1:02:21 ↗ as a field supervisor for teaching

1:02:23 ↗ candidates from uw bothell

1:02:26 ↗ two of my grandchildren attend issaquah

1:02:29 ↗ schools pine lake middle and gibson eck

1:02:33 ↗ i value education and i value the

1:02:36 ↗ issaquah school district

1:02:39 ↗ we know that it takes a competent staff

1:02:42 ↗ and suitable facilities to provide

1:02:44 ↗ quality education

1:02:46 ↗ i do not believe that the schools

1:02:48 ↗ planned by the issaquah school district

1:02:51 ↗ near providence point will be suitable

1:02:54 ↗ facilities

1:02:55 ↗ there are too many environmental

1:02:57 ↗ concerns

1:02:59 ↗ the area is quite small only 36 to 40

1:03:03 ↗ buildable acres

1:03:05 ↗ the schools would create very

1:03:07 ↗ significant adverse impacts on the

1:03:10 ↗ neighborhoods including visual and noise

1:03:14 ↗ intrusions on nearby properties

1:03:17 ↗ the storm water flow into laughing

1:03:20 ↗ jacob's creek will endanger the kokanee

1:03:24 ↗ salmon

1:03:26 ↗ the issaquah school district is

1:03:28 ↗ requesting the capital levy because of a

1:03:31 ↗ man mismanagement of funds

1:03:35 ↗ i do not support the 44 million dollars

1:03:37 ↗ requested from tax

1:03:40 ↗ payers to cover a construction shortfall

1:03:44 ↗ after passing an over one half billion

1:03:46 ↗ dollar levy in 2016

1:03:49 ↗ the isis issaquah school district

1:03:52 ↗ announced they were delaying

1:03:54 ↗ construction of the elementary school

1:03:56 ↗ indefinitely

1:03:58 ↗ at the time they claimed the delay was

1:04:02 ↗ because of enrollment figures and that

1:04:04 ↗ could have been part of the reason

1:04:06 ↗ but later we learned it was because the

1:04:09 ↗ project is 78 million dollars over

1:04:12 ↗ budget

1:04:14 ↗ and they needed the money planned for

1:04:16 ↗ the elementary school to partially fill

1:04:19 ↗ in the deficit

1:04:21 ↗ yet they are planning to spend 15

1:04:24 ↗ million to cut down three acres of trees

1:04:27 ↗ to make the site pad ready

1:04:30 ↗ for the elementary school not even being

1:04:34 ↗ sure that it will ever be built

1:04:37 ↗ another major concern is that 30 seconds

1:04:40 ↗ public comments are not being respected

1:04:43 ↗ issaquah school district received over

1:04:46 ↗ 250 responses to its second cepa mdns

1:04:51 ↗ which asked for an independent

1:04:53 ↗ environmental impact statement

1:04:56 ↗ these requests were ignored and never

1:04:59 ↗ addressed in the final mdns

1:05:02 ↗ in the in addition the i

1:05:05 ↗ issaquah school district continues to

1:05:07 ↗ steadfastly refuse

1:05:10 ↗ to prepare an eis thank you so much for

1:05:14 ↗ the opportunity to talk with you

1:05:20 ↗ the next three speakers are francie

1:05:23 ↗ gretho

1:05:25 ↗ sean dugan and suzanne weaver

1:05:31 ↗ francie

1:05:32 ↗ and miss gretho i am unmuting you feel

1:05:36 ↗ free to turn on your account uh camera

1:05:38 ↗ if you'd like

1:05:39 ↗ i just did i'm good i'm in the upper

1:05:42 ↗ left of my screen

1:05:45 ↗ my comments my comments tonight are very

1:05:48 ↗ simple

1:05:51 ↗ i don't have a codes in front of me um i

1:05:54 ↗ am not

1:05:55 ↗ going to

1:05:57 ↗ let me start over i suppose i'm nervous

1:06:00 ↗ um

1:06:01 ↗ one of the there are a couple of things

1:06:03 ↗ there's a lot going on on a small piece

1:06:06 ↗ of property

1:06:09 ↗ i

1:06:10 ↗ really support many of the other

1:06:12 ↗ speakers who are worried about the

1:06:14 ↗ environmental impact

1:06:16 ↗ that all the cement all of the chemicals

1:06:20 ↗ that were present when um

1:06:23 ↗ the college and the church inhabited the

1:06:26 ↗ property are still there

1:06:28 ↗ the demolition created a nightmare out

1:06:32 ↗ of

1:06:32 ↗ that about that space

1:06:35 ↗ the other thing that concerns me a great

1:06:38 ↗ deal is

1:06:40 ↗ the road issue there is not a plan as

1:06:43 ↗ yet and

1:06:45 ↗ i don't know where it's going but some

1:06:47 ↗ amish needs to

1:06:50 ↗ approve

1:06:52 ↗ their

1:06:52 ↗ decision about

1:06:55 ↗ fixing the road

1:06:57 ↗ getting the road big enough and you know

1:06:58 ↗ when i think about what the plan might

1:07:01 ↗ be

1:07:02 ↗ on 228th

1:07:04 ↗ i think about students trying to ride

1:07:06 ↗ their bicycles or walk alongside that

1:07:09 ↗ road

1:07:10 ↗ now if the road's going to be

1:07:12 ↗ widened to four lanes

1:07:16 ↗ visually i cannot see how that's going

1:07:18 ↗ to happen but if by eminent domain

1:07:21 ↗ property is

1:07:24 ↗ taken for that road to be widened it's

1:07:27 ↗ still going to be very difficult to pass

1:07:30 ↗ for cars to pass and kids to pass

1:07:33 ↗ the

1:07:34 ↗ 228th as it

1:07:36 ↗ comes around a blind corner

1:07:40 ↗ down to

1:07:41 ↗ southeast 43rd

1:07:43 ↗ is very steep

1:07:45 ↗ and now there's a signal in the middle

1:07:48 ↗ of that

1:07:49 ↗ profit of that road

1:07:51 ↗ so that creates a danger certainly a

1:07:54 ↗ severe danger when it's icy

1:07:58 ↗ the other concern i have is um is about

1:08:02 ↗ the environmental i talked about the

1:08:04 ↗ lead

1:08:04 ↗ but and the concrete but i wanted to

1:08:08 ↗ mention

1:08:09 ↗ strongly mention the tree cover that is

1:08:12 ↗ on that land and how

1:08:15 ↗ we really

1:08:16 ↗ really seriously physically need our

1:08:18 ↗ trees because that's

1:08:20 ↗ our lungs

1:08:21 ↗ it's the lungs that we breathe i don't

1:08:24 ↗ want to leave the future kids in our

1:08:27 ↗ community with a legacy

1:08:30 ↗ like this

1:08:32 ↗ okay thank you i appreciate your work

1:08:35 ↗ and for this opportunity to speak good

1:08:38 ↗ night

1:08:41 ↗ thank you

1:08:44 ↗ uh next is sean dugan

1:08:47 ↗ or duggan

1:08:49 ↗ i am you're on

1:08:51 ↗ unmuted uh feel free to turn on your

1:08:53 ↗ camera

1:08:54 ↗ great thank you um the purpose of my

1:08:56 ↗ comments is to ensure that the city and

1:08:58 ↗ the squad is school district provide

1:09:01 ↗ necessary improvements an oversight to

1:09:03 ↗ achieve the intent set forth in the

1:09:05 ↗ central ispo landscape development

1:09:07 ↗ standards

1:09:08 ↗ i'm here representing the

1:09:11 ↗ providence point umbrella association

1:09:13 ↗ and i'm discussing i'm their arbors

1:09:15 ↗ discussing their trees

1:09:17 ↗ project narrative discusses design

1:09:19 ↗ overview

1:09:20 ↗ um

1:09:21 ↗ retaining as many existing trees as

1:09:23 ↗ possible is priority within expanses of

1:09:26 ↗ the perimeter

1:09:27 ↗ the areas where grading is proposed to

1:09:29 ↗ accommodate program elements the tree

1:09:31 ↗ retention is not possible refire station

1:09:33 ↗ planting is proposed to the extent

1:09:35 ↗ feasible

1:09:36 ↗ um this is to the extent feasible not to

1:09:38 ↗ the maximum extent feasible

1:09:40 ↗ um so at this point most of the

1:09:42 ↗ discussion has been regarding

1:09:45 ↗ retaining trees um and the mitigation

1:09:48 ↗ for those trees but there's no workable

1:09:50 ↗ plan that defines goals or provides any

1:09:53 ↗ metrics for the monitoring and welfare

1:09:55 ↗ of existing trees

1:09:56 ↗ there's no maintenance plan and there's

1:09:58 ↗ no monitoring plan

1:10:00 ↗ the 75 of the mature trees are going to

1:10:03 ↗ be removed from the site um only

1:10:05 ↗ retaining narrow buffers and then the

1:10:07 ↗ design criteria narrative

1:10:10 ↗ states that maintenance will only be

1:10:11 ↗ minimal work to the existing vegetation

1:10:14 ↗ in these proposed areas this is

1:10:16 ↗ basically related to pruning and the

1:10:19 ↗ removal of evasive species no irrigation

1:10:21 ↗ or no monitoring is proposed the trees

1:10:23 ↗ that will be on the site according to

1:10:25 ↗ the applicant so an arborist are

1:10:27 ↗ generally in poor condition most of the

1:10:29 ↗ cedars douglas fir hemlocks big leaf

1:10:31 ↗ maples cottonwoods and alders are in

1:10:32 ↗ declining condition these are the trees

1:10:34 ↗ that are going to be retained within the

1:10:36 ↗ native buffer areas

1:10:38 ↗ when the site is cleared for the

1:10:40 ↗ stockpiling materials for the future

1:10:42 ↗ elementary school approximately 500

1:10:45 ↗ trees will be removed

1:10:47 ↗ this is going to create a

1:10:49 ↗ wind buffer removal for the remaining

1:10:51 ↗ trees uh within here is a standard

1:10:53 ↗ cottonwood trees that both the cities

1:10:56 ↗ third party arborist consultant and the

1:11:00 ↗ applicant's consultant said that there's

1:11:02 ↗ a stand of cottonwood trees that target

1:11:04 ↗ structures on the providence point

1:11:06 ↗ property and have an elevated risk

1:11:07 ↗ potential these are now going to be

1:11:09 ↗ exposed without the buffer from the

1:11:12 ↗ standing trees next to them

1:11:14 ↗ the city's own consultants suggest

1:11:15 ↗ removing these hazard trees at an early

1:11:17 ↗ stage would be beneficial to the safety

1:11:19 ↗ of construction workers and to visitors

1:11:21 ↗ to the site prior to completion and i

1:11:24 ↗ presume also to the providence point

1:11:25 ↗ targets

1:11:28 ↗ the site will be surrounded by retaining

1:11:30 ↗ walls that are going to dry out and

1:11:31 ↗ desiccate the site um an irrigation plan

1:11:33 ↗ is necessary to ensure that future trees

1:11:36 ↗ where future maintenance is uh able to

1:11:40 ↗ occur for the existing vegetation

1:11:42 ↗ the cc the cidds states that all

1:11:45 ↗ landscapes are to be maintained that all

1:11:47 ↗ plant materials shall be maintained and

1:11:49 ↗ this includes all of the plant material

1:11:51 ↗ within the buffers existing and the new

1:11:53 ↗ material

1:11:54 ↗ the buffer should be replanted uh to a

1:11:56 ↗ higher density than currently being

1:11:58 ↗ proposed and i have provided information

1:12:00 ↗ that shows what can be approved by a

1:12:01 ↗ director

1:12:05 ↗ thank you mr dugan um

1:12:08 ↗ ross tillman is back on

1:12:12 ↗ um

1:12:13 ↗ and i have made him a panelist i believe

1:12:16 ↗ he had um about a minute and a half left

1:12:19 ↗ in his presentation

1:12:21 ↗ so um

1:12:23 ↗ are you ready mr tillman

1:12:25 ↗ uh yes i am i'm not quite sure what you

1:12:28 ↗ last heard

1:12:32 ↗ um

1:12:35 ↗ do any of the commissioners remember

1:12:40 ↗ um

1:12:42 ↗ that would be about a minute and a half

1:12:44 ↗ would indicate that you were about

1:12:46 ↗ halfway through your presentation could

1:12:48 ↗ could you pick a halfway point and begin

1:12:52 ↗ uh yes um i'll start with the point that

1:12:56 ↗ the difficult access

1:12:58 ↗ to the site and into the site

1:13:00 ↗ compromises safety

1:13:03 ↗ the single access is unlike any other

1:13:05 ↗ high school which generally has two

1:13:06 ↗ access points from two separate roads um

1:13:10 ↗ this site does not overcome the

1:13:11 ↗ topographic and locational problems by

1:13:14 ↗ providing a single access it's a poor

1:13:17 ↗ plan for emergencies it could easily be

1:13:20 ↗ blocked it is a poor plan for the

1:13:22 ↗ ability to evacuate people from the site

1:13:24 ↗ if necessary emergency access is not

1:13:28 ↗ while it's shown

1:13:30 ↗ it isn't real

1:13:31 ↗ the school district does not have

1:13:33 ↗ ownership control or

1:13:35 ↗ the right to use the providence height

1:13:37 ↗ loop road

1:13:38 ↗ so they don't have a credible emergency

1:13:40 ↗ access

1:13:42 ↗ queuing is deficient for the high school

1:13:44 ↗ a careful reading of the transportation

1:13:45 ↗ report shows more vehicles show up then

1:13:47 ↗ there's actually room to accommodate

1:13:49 ↗ them

1:13:50 ↗ that is a poor practice for any school

1:13:52 ↗ let alone one with a single access off a

1:13:55 ↗ major arterial

1:13:56 ↗ parking although shared parking is

1:13:59 ↗ proposed

1:14:00 ↗ parking is based on the stadium's

1:14:02 ↗ capacity without a limit to parking

1:14:05 ↗ there cannot be an effective

1:14:07 ↗ transportation management plan parking

1:14:09 ↗ is the single most important tool

1:14:11 ↗ parking limits so if the city is serious

1:14:14 ↗ about providing safe routes to school

1:14:16 ↗ safe access reliable emergency access

1:14:19 ↗ and meeting its climate action goals it

1:14:22 ↗ will not approve this plan as presented

1:14:24 ↗ thank you

1:14:29 ↗ thank you

1:14:31 ↗ um

1:14:34 ↗ suzanne weaver

1:14:38 ↗ i have un oops

1:14:40 ↗ i have unmuted you if you'd like to turn

1:14:42 ↗ on your camera and speak

1:14:45 ↗ okay can you hear me

1:14:47 ↗ yes

1:14:48 ↗ okay my name is suzanne weaver and i

1:14:50 ↗ serve on the isoqua school board i would

1:14:52 ↗ like to speak in favor of this project

1:14:55 ↗ and to urge the development commission

1:14:56 ↗ to recommend approval

1:14:59 ↗ as a public school district we work hard

1:15:01 ↗ to respond to our community's permitted

1:15:03 ↗ growth and to fulfill our duty to make

1:15:06 ↗ the best public education accessible and

1:15:09 ↗ available to all residents of our

1:15:11 ↗ district

1:15:12 ↗ our biggest challenge is that

1:15:13 ↗ approximately 70 percent of our

1:15:16 ↗ district's 110 square miles is outside

1:15:19 ↗ of the urban growth area where we are

1:15:21 ↗ not permitted to build schools

1:15:23 ↗ consequently our property search was not

1:15:26 ↗ an easy one given the regulatory

1:15:28 ↗ constraints on school siting the

1:15:30 ↗ scarcity of urban land and the

1:15:32 ↗ development limitations of many parcels

1:15:35 ↗ nevertheless we present a proposal which

1:15:38 ↗ is consistent with applicable city

1:15:40 ↗ comprehensive plan policies and code

1:15:43 ↗ provisions and which is considerate of

1:15:45 ↗ surrounding properties

1:15:47 ↗ in spite of the difficulties we've

1:15:49 ↗ encountered

1:15:50 ↗ with locating a viable urban school site

1:15:53 ↗ and with now several years of challenges

1:15:55 ↗ in site acquisition and planning we

1:15:57 ↗ continue to firmly believe that this

1:15:59 ↗ site as designed in the proposal before

1:16:02 ↗ you today

1:16:03 ↗ is ideal for our community's needs it is

1:16:06 ↗ centrally located in an area where

1:16:08 ↗ enrollment relief is needed

1:16:10 ↗ its design is consistent with the city's

1:16:12 ↗ compact school policies and code

1:16:14 ↗ requirements

1:16:15 ↗ and it includes numerous site-specific

1:16:18 ↗ design features which are responsive to

1:16:20 ↗ neighboring property concerns

1:16:23 ↗ i do want to acknowledge that this

1:16:25 ↗ project has been years in planning and

1:16:27 ↗ has not been immune to inflation and

1:16:30 ↗ increasing project costs that have

1:16:32 ↗ required us to prioritize prioritize

1:16:34 ↗ construction of the high school ahead of

1:16:36 ↗ the elementary school

1:16:38 ↗ the pandemic's effect on element

1:16:40 ↗ elementary enrollment alleviated some of

1:16:43 ↗ the existing strain on our elementary

1:16:45 ↗ school facilities and that provides us

1:16:47 ↗ with some relief to delay construction

1:16:50 ↗ of that school

1:16:51 ↗ however we still need to plan for this

1:16:53 ↗ important elementary school to address

1:16:55 ↗ community growth

1:16:57 ↗ i urge the development commission's

1:16:59 ↗ recommendation of approval

1:17:01 ↗ i thank you for your consideration and i

1:17:03 ↗ thank you for your service

1:17:08 ↗ thank you

1:17:13 ↗ the next three speakers are sydney

1:17:17 ↗ mullings

1:17:18 ↗ patty hong

1:17:19 ↗ and marty moraldo

1:17:23 ↗ ms mullins

1:17:25 ↗ i

1:17:26 ↗ am

1:17:30 ↗ and you are unmuted um please proceed

1:17:34 ↗ hi

1:17:35 ↗ my name is sydney mullings and i'm here

1:17:37 ↗ to speak in favor of this project and

1:17:39 ↗ urge the development commission to

1:17:41 ↗ recommend approval

1:17:43 ↗ the city staff's proposed conditions

1:17:46 ↗ thank you for allowing me this

1:17:47 ↗ opportunity to share my input

1:17:50 ↗ i'm an elected member of the issaquah

1:17:52 ↗ school board

1:17:54 ↗ and issaquah resident

1:17:55 ↗ and also have the honor of being the

1:17:57 ↗ mother of a current issaquah high school

1:17:59 ↗ student

1:18:01 ↗ speaking as an elected school board

1:18:03 ↗ member our greatest needs continue to be

1:18:05 ↗ at the high school level

1:18:07 ↗ high school enrollment remains steady

1:18:09 ↗ and this year exceeded enrollment

1:18:11 ↗ expectations

1:18:12 ↗ our existing high school capacity is

1:18:14 ↗ over taxed and our students deserve

1:18:17 ↗ better

1:18:18 ↗ there's no question based on actual

1:18:20 ↗ enrollment figures that our students and

1:18:23 ↗ community need forward progress and

1:18:25 ↗ permitting for both long planned schools

1:18:28 ↗ as an issaquah resident i believe that

1:18:31 ↗ it's critical that we move forward with

1:18:32 ↗ this project

1:18:34 ↗ that i and a majority of others in the

1:18:36 ↗ community have voted for

1:18:38 ↗ i know that there have been questions

1:18:40 ↗ and concerns raised within the community

1:18:42 ↗ about this project

1:18:44 ↗ my hope is that enlisting through this

1:18:46 ↗ very thorough project review during this

1:18:48 ↗ public hearing it is now clear to all

1:18:51 ↗ that these concerns have been heard and

1:18:53 ↗ addressed

1:18:55 ↗ finally i'm here as a high school parent

1:18:58 ↗ it's critical that we all understand the

1:19:01 ↗ pressing need for teenagers of this

1:19:03 ↗ community to navigate the already

1:19:06 ↗ challenging high school years in

1:19:08 ↗ facilities that are now bursting at the

1:19:10 ↗ seams

1:19:11 ↗ where finding a quiet place to even

1:19:13 ↗ gather their thoughts is challenging

1:19:16 ↗ even with the use of portable classrooms

1:19:19 ↗ which add limited additional space to

1:19:21 ↗ buildings that are being prematurely

1:19:23 ↗ aged

1:19:24 ↗ above with above and beyond wear and

1:19:26 ↗ tear

1:19:27 ↗ when this project was first envisioned

1:19:29 ↗ my daughter a current high school

1:19:31 ↗ sophomore was a fourth grader

1:19:34 ↗ she her friends and classmates at both

1:19:37 ↗ issaquah and skyline will graduate from

1:19:40 ↗ high schools that are more overcrowded

1:19:42 ↗ now than they were in 2016.

1:19:46 ↗ my son is currently a sixth grader

1:19:48 ↗ this project will ensure that he attends

1:19:50 ↗ a school that gives him a fantastic high

1:19:53 ↗ school experience

1:19:55 ↗ your recommendation for approval of this

1:19:57 ↗ project

1:19:58 ↗ with the proposed conditions will make a

1:20:01 ↗ very large positive impact for the

1:20:03 ↗ future of high schoolers in this

1:20:05 ↗ community

1:20:06 ↗ thank you

1:20:10 ↗ thank you

1:20:17 ↗ the next speaker is patty hong

1:20:20 ↗ i have unmuted you miss hong feel free

1:20:24 ↗ to turn on your camera and

1:20:27 ↗ join us

1:20:29 ↗ hello

1:20:30 ↗ my name is patty hong and i am a

1:20:32 ↗ resident of

1:20:34 ↗ providence point

1:20:36 ↗ and currently i have a bird's eye view

1:20:38 ↗ of left field

1:20:41 ↗ of the of the soon-to-be um constructed

1:20:45 ↗ softball field

1:20:48 ↗ at the uh

1:20:49 ↗ on the side of the new high school

1:20:51 ↗ so i have two issues that i want to

1:20:53 ↗ focus on tonight

1:20:55 ↗ and because i'm going to be looking

1:20:57 ↗ directly over left field of that

1:20:59 ↗ softball field

1:21:01 ↗ i'm very interested in the buffer

1:21:04 ↗ and how many trees are going to be in

1:21:06 ↗ the buffer the buffer is very small very

1:21:09 ↗ shallow

1:21:10 ↗ in my opinion uh condition number 25

1:21:14 ↗ does not require

1:21:16 ↗ that any irrigation be installed

1:21:20 ↗ uh in the buffer area and i urge the

1:21:23 ↗ uh commission to

1:21:25 ↗ direct this direct the city to include

1:21:29 ↗ required irrigation for the buffer areas

1:21:34 ↗ my other concern is the traffic

1:21:36 ↗ management plan

1:21:38 ↗ and anyone who has driven by

1:21:41 ↗ pine lake middle middle school on 228th

1:21:44 ↗ and also skyline high school on 228th

1:21:47 ↗ sees how how much foot traffic there is

1:21:51 ↗ from students who are walking

1:21:53 ↗ from various

1:21:55 ↗ places in uh in in the surrounding area

1:21:59 ↗ this particular high school number four

1:22:02 ↗ doesn't really lend itself to any

1:22:03 ↗ pedestrian uh access whatsoever and uh

1:22:08 ↗ it would not surprise me just to see

1:22:11 ↗ high school students parking their cars

1:22:13 ↗ along

1:22:14 ↗ uh near um

1:22:16 ↗ marion wood uh

1:22:18 ↗ rehabilitation center and bellwood and

1:22:21 ↗ also to be parking their cars up at pine

1:22:24 ↗ lake shopping center and walking from

1:22:27 ↗ there

1:22:28 ↗ to the high school site there are no

1:22:30 ↗ sidewalks along to 28th and i do not

1:22:34 ↗ recall that there was a plan to put a

1:22:36 ↗ sidewalk between issaquah pine lake road

1:22:39 ↗ and

1:22:41 ↗ the high school site

1:22:42 ↗ so i hope that the uh commission would

1:22:45 ↗ direct

1:22:46 ↗ that the uh that condition number 17

1:22:50 ↗ include a pedestrian management plan as

1:22:54 ↗ well as a traffic management plan

1:22:56 ↗ i thank you all for your service and

1:23:00 ↗ look forward to a

1:23:03 ↗ substantive discussion about the pros

1:23:05 ↗ and cons of all of the comments thank

1:23:07 ↗ you very much

1:23:10 ↗ thank you miss hong

1:23:16 ↗ the next speaker is marnie moraldo

1:23:20 ↗ i have a muted you

1:23:24 ↗ please turn on your camera if you choose

1:23:26 ↗ and

1:23:27 ↗ proceed with your comments

1:23:32 ↗ hi my name is marty moraldo thank you so

1:23:34 ↗ much for allowing me this opportunity to

1:23:36 ↗ speak as an elected member of the board

1:23:38 ↗ of directors for the issaquah school

1:23:39 ↗ district i'm here to speak in favor of

1:23:41 ↗ this project and i urge you to recommend

1:23:44 ↗ approval with the city staff's proposed

1:23:46 ↗ conditions

1:23:47 ↗ this proposal which would provide the

1:23:49 ↗ land use approvals for the final

1:23:50 ↗ projects from our 2016 bond passed by

1:23:53 ↗ our voters

1:23:55 ↗ is critical to our school capacity and

1:23:57 ↗ student learning needs

1:23:59 ↗ while the district has seen a reduction

1:24:01 ↗ in enrollment through the covet 19

1:24:03 ↗ pandemic our current enrollment levels

1:24:05 ↗ are actually above where they were when

1:24:07 ↗ the bond measure was passed over five

1:24:10 ↗ years ago

1:24:11 ↗ and as the city of issaquah and other

1:24:14 ↗ cities within the district boundaries

1:24:15 ↗ continue to grow enrollment is is

1:24:17 ↗ expected to increase well into the

1:24:19 ↗ future

1:24:20 ↗ even today existing school capacity is

1:24:23 ↗ strained for years we've heard from our

1:24:25 ↗ community that student capacity is

1:24:27 ↗ overloaded on the valley floor at

1:24:28 ↗ issaquah high school issaquah middle

1:24:30 ↗ school and clark elementary and the

1:24:33 ↗ residents of old town know all too well

1:24:35 ↗ the impacts of this overcrowding

1:24:37 ↗ we worked hard to respond to this

1:24:39 ↗ concern just this week we opened cooker

1:24:41 ↗ mountain middle school to alleviate in

1:24:44 ↗ part their capacity at issaquah middle

1:24:47 ↗ school

1:24:48 ↗ the addition of high school 4 will allow

1:24:50 ↗ us to move approximately 600 students

1:24:52 ↗ from issaquah high school and will

1:24:54 ↗ further alleviate the strain on downtown

1:24:56 ↗ issaquah roads and allow students to

1:24:58 ↗ remain closer to their homes

1:25:01 ↗ we understand the concerns of the

1:25:02 ↗ adjacent property owners regarding the

1:25:04 ↗ multi-purpose field at this site

1:25:06 ↗ board director gallinger and i along

1:25:08 ↗ with superintendent thiele met with the

1:25:10 ↗ leadership of providence point umbrella

1:25:12 ↗ association on three occasions we

1:25:15 ↗ extensively refused to pro pro propose

1:25:17 ↗ site plans with them

1:25:19 ↗ toward property uh providence point

1:25:22 ↗ facilities that would be most impacted

1:25:24 ↗ by the buildings and worked to make the

1:25:26 ↗ development more amenable including

1:25:28 ↗ creating significantly more buffer area

1:25:30 ↗ that then required by city code

1:25:33 ↗ through all that i know the field and

1:25:35 ↗ track itself are needed for us to

1:25:37 ↗ fulfill the physical education

1:25:39 ↗ requirements and provide for

1:25:40 ↗ extracurricular activities crucial to

1:25:43 ↗ our students experience

1:25:45 ↗ one side of the field does have covered

1:25:47 ↗ grant a cover crane stand that will

1:25:48 ↗ allow for games and events which will

1:25:50 ↗ permit this high school to have its own

1:25:53 ↗ home field and more importantly build

1:25:56 ↗ its own community and own identity the

1:25:59 ↗ design team team has carefully worked on

1:26:02 ↗ the design and operational features to

1:26:04 ↗ minimize

1:26:06 ↗ sound light and activity toward those

1:26:08 ↗ properties

1:26:09 ↗ as a board member i am proud to be uh

1:26:11 ↗ proud of the submitted design before

1:26:12 ↗ your approval it meets the applicable

1:26:15 ↗ code requirements and reflects careful

1:26:17 ↗ design that indicates compromise as

1:26:19 ↗ related to this particular site by

1:26:21 ↗ investing in design features that

1:26:23 ↗ minimize impacts to the surrounding

1:26:25 ↗ properties as a community proper partner

1:26:28 ↗ we see these project components as

1:26:29 ↗ important compromises while still

1:26:31 ↗ providing the for the necessary and

1:26:33 ↗ important community infrastructure thank

1:26:36 ↗ you for your careful consideration

1:26:39 ↗ lucy

1:26:42 ↗ yes

1:26:44 ↗ um before you call the next speaker's

1:26:46 ↗ weaker been in for about an hour and a

1:26:48 ↗ half about halfway through the normal

1:26:50 ↗ items we have left but it might be a

1:26:51 ↗ good time just to take a about a ten

1:26:53 ↗ minute break um give everybody an

1:26:54 ↗ opportunity to stand up stretch their

1:26:55 ↗ legs a bit

1:26:57 ↗ uh and then return to hear

1:26:59 ↗ uh

1:27:01 ↗ is that um does that work

1:27:04 ↗ yes um yes it certainly does

1:27:07 ↗ thank you let's uh okay so let's recess

1:27:11 ↗ until 8 40. so uh about a 12-minute

1:27:14 ↗ break we'll see you back at 8 40. thank

1:27:16 ↗ you

1:27:17 ↗ thank you

1:39:13 ↗ my legs are stretched my water glass is

1:39:15 ↗ full

1:39:16 ↗ so lucy please call the next three

1:39:18 ↗ speakers i think we um i will call the

1:39:20 ↗ three speakers but we have to give the

1:39:22 ↗ ten second

1:39:23 ↗ warning okay the next three speakers are

1:39:27 ↗ rick rambaroo

1:39:30 ↗ maria klievkov and dean apostle

1:39:41 ↗ mr rambaroo

1:39:43 ↗ um

1:39:43 ↗ please turn on your camera and proceed

1:39:46 ↗ okay thank you

1:39:47 ↗ um i'm richard ramber i'm here tonight

1:39:49 ↗ representing the providence point

1:39:51 ↗ umbrella association

1:39:54 ↗ the representative of the senior

1:39:56 ↗ community which shares a 3

1:39:58 ↗ 100 foot boundary with the school's

1:40:01 ↗ property

1:40:03 ↗ earlier today we provided you with an

1:40:05 ↗ extensive report

1:40:07 ↗ which includes

1:40:09 ↗ expert

1:40:11 ↗ reports and opinions by

1:40:13 ↗ storm water experts traffic experts

1:40:16 ↗ arborists land use planners aesthetics

1:40:18 ↗ you've heard from some of these people

1:40:20 ↗ already tonight and we do hope that the

1:40:25 ↗ board will and the commission will pay

1:40:28 ↗ close attention to these materials

1:40:30 ↗ all these reports demonstrate a

1:40:33 ↗ fundamental proposition here which is

1:40:34 ↗ this is a deeply flawed project

1:40:37 ↗ on a questionable site and and if the

1:40:40 ↗ project is to be approved at all

1:40:42 ↗ there must be serious changes to bring

1:40:44 ↗ it into compliance with the careful and

1:40:46 ↗ historic standards adopted by issaquah

1:40:50 ↗ while our reports show a myriad of

1:40:52 ↗ defects in the projects i i want to take

1:40:55 ↗ a

1:40:56 ↗ kind of a higher level view of the of

1:40:58 ↗ the situation here and focus on on three

1:41:01 ↗ issues

1:41:02 ↗ um who really with the straight face

1:41:06 ↗ comes before this commission with a

1:41:08 ↗ proposal to dump construction spoils

1:41:12 ↗ on three acres of mature forest after

1:41:15 ↗ that forest is clear-cut

1:41:17 ↗ a clear slap in the face to the city's

1:41:20 ↗ climate action plan recently adopted

1:41:23 ↗ ironically

1:41:25 ↗ this fill is necessary because the

1:41:27 ↗ district is violating a fundamental

1:41:29 ↗ tenet of design review that is to

1:41:32 ↗ preserve existing vegetation and

1:41:34 ↗ topography

1:41:37 ↗ within within the site area

1:41:40 ↗ they do this by bulldozing essentially

1:41:43 ↗ everything inside

1:41:45 ↗ and with another irony they justify all

1:41:48 ↗ of this because they want a head start

1:41:50 ↗ on a school project

1:41:52 ↗ that may never be built

1:41:54 ↗ and they don't have the money for

1:41:57 ↗ secondly

1:41:58 ↗ who comes before this commission two and

1:42:00 ↗ a half years after a project is proposed

1:42:03 ↗ substantially unprepared

1:42:06 ↗ we've got a lot of pages and reports but

1:42:08 ↗ the district

1:42:10 ↗ does not have a approval

1:42:14 ↗ for its construction plans it does not

1:42:17 ↗ have approval

1:42:19 ↗ plans and the fragile

1:42:22 ↗ laughing jacobs creek

1:42:24 ↗ it doesn't have construction management

1:42:27 ↗ plans it doesn't have a transportation

1:42:29 ↗ management plan this this is not a

1:42:31 ↗ project that's ready for prime time

1:42:33 ↗ these issues should have been resolved

1:42:36 ↗ well before we arrive at the commission

1:42:39 ↗ and of course there is no

1:42:41 ↗ proposal

1:42:43 ↗ for the ccnr so important to the

1:42:45 ↗ enforcement

1:42:47 ↗ and who comes before

1:42:49 ↗ this design review commission

1:42:51 ↗ about a single sketch a rendering of

1:42:54 ↗ what the project will look like from

1:42:55 ↗ providence point or other public areas

1:42:58 ↗ thank you very much for your time

1:43:02 ↗ the next speaker is maria cliavkov

1:43:08 ↗ i am and you're unmuted um please

1:43:10 ↗ proceed

1:43:13 ↗ thank you so much and thank you for your

1:43:15 ↗ time and for your patience and listening

1:43:17 ↗ to all of us

1:43:19 ↗ i'm a resident of rainier building in

1:43:21 ↗ providence point on

1:43:22 ↗ 224th lane south east

1:43:25 ↗ my concerns are really twofold

1:43:28 ↗ i appreciate the need for this project

1:43:30 ↗ that is not in question what is in

1:43:32 ↗ question is how it's been maneuvered

1:43:35 ↗ i have great concern that the school

1:43:37 ↗ district decided that environmental

1:43:39 ↗ impact for this project could be

1:43:41 ↗ mitigated so the wetland considerations

1:43:44 ↗ were addressed but the environmental

1:43:46 ↗ impact statement was deemed not

1:43:49 ↗ necessary

1:43:50 ↗ the habitat was determined to be low

1:43:53 ↗ habitat value as a wetland habitat

1:43:56 ↗ unfortunately it's not a wetlands

1:43:58 ↗ habitat

1:43:59 ↗ how do i know this i know this because i

1:44:02 ↗ hear the coyotes and i hear the coyote

1:44:04 ↗ cubs particularly on full moon nights

1:44:07 ↗ it is a vibrant habitat an environmental

1:44:10 ↗ impact study is a must

1:44:13 ↗ we must do this assessment so that we

1:44:16 ↗ know what it is that we are ruining or

1:44:18 ↗ speaking about ruining

1:44:21 ↗ my second concern is that the providence

1:44:23 ↗ point storm system cannot take the

1:44:26 ↗ overflow from the project

1:44:28 ↗ it was dually noted that yesterday a

1:44:30 ↗ councilman asked about the 100-year

1:44:33 ↗ event and the response was code does not

1:44:36 ↗ require us to do that level of

1:44:38 ↗ mitigation

1:44:40 ↗ the truth is we know the hundred year

1:44:42 ↗ event happens it's been happening all

1:44:45 ↗ around us

1:44:46 ↗ those of us who live here know that

1:44:48 ↗ we've had flash floods here and we know

1:44:50 ↗ that the system cannot withstand this

1:44:54 ↗ the question is who pays for it when it

1:44:57 ↗ doesn't work

1:44:58 ↗ is it the providence point residents who

1:45:00 ↗ have to put up with all of this who have

1:45:02 ↗ been fighting for all of this who will

1:45:04 ↗ then have to pay for the failure of it

1:45:07 ↗ i thank you so much for your time and i

1:45:08 ↗ thank you for all of your dedicated

1:45:10 ↗ service

1:45:15 ↗ thank you um

1:45:17 ↗ next speaker is dean apostle

1:45:21 ↗ you have been unmuted feel free to turn

1:45:24 ↗ on your camera and um

1:45:27 ↗ let us know your thoughts

1:45:28 ↗ okay thanks uh i believe my camera's

1:45:31 ↗ signing there i am hi hi dean

1:45:33 ↗ um

1:45:35 ↗ thanks i appreciate the opportunity to

1:45:36 ↗ talk i'm a semi-retired landscape

1:45:39 ↗ architect and visual impact specialist

1:45:42 ↗ uh i do some consulting work on

1:45:45 ↗ the visual and scenic impacts i was

1:45:48 ↗ formally with forest service

1:45:51 ↗ engineers and i've also done a lot of

1:45:52 ↗ private consulting

1:45:54 ↗ i was asked to provide some

1:45:56 ↗ visual analysis for by the providence

1:45:59 ↗ point community

1:46:01 ↗ uh and i've i have submitted a written

1:46:03 ↗ report that has my findings and

1:46:06 ↗ recommendations in there

1:46:08 ↗ so i don't want to have to repeat that

1:46:10 ↗ here i'm hoping that you guys will get a

1:46:11 ↗ chance to read that

1:46:13 ↗ what i do want to do is just uh offer

1:46:16 ↗ uh this

1:46:17 ↗ project

1:46:18 ↗ uh proposal

1:46:20 ↗ is about as bad uh fitting of a

1:46:24 ↗ of us building and um

1:46:27 ↗ it's supporting services to a site that

1:46:30 ↗ i've ever seen and over 40 years of

1:46:32 ↗ practice

1:46:34 ↗ and i really think that you've got to

1:46:35 ↗ send these guys back to the drawing

1:46:37 ↗ board and um

1:46:39 ↗ have them come back with something with

1:46:40 ↗ a project that actually fits that site

1:46:42 ↗ that site is about 60 maybe 70 percent

1:46:45 ↗ forested

1:46:47 ↗ uh they're ending up with um i don't

1:46:49 ↗ know maybe 15 percent of the force left

1:46:53 ↗ and that's where the visual impacts

1:46:54 ↗ really lie it's it's in the um

1:46:57 ↗ inability or the unwillingness of the

1:46:59 ↗ district and their architects to fit

1:47:01 ↗ that

1:47:02 ↗ project to the site

1:47:03 ↗ a 1994 book by david orr

1:47:07 ↗ buildings as pedagogy

1:47:09 ↗ uh it's an excellent book that you might

1:47:12 ↗ look at 1994 island press

1:47:14 ↗ and it's about how building how we learn

1:47:16 ↗ from building so what we build we learn

1:47:19 ↗ from

1:47:20 ↗ and you will have students in that

1:47:22 ↗ building and you're trying to teach

1:47:24 ↗ environmental

1:47:25 ↗ courses and science

1:47:27 ↗ and what are they going to learn

1:47:29 ↗ when they're they're studying in a

1:47:32 ↗ building that was imposed

1:47:35 ↗ on the site with no

1:47:37 ↗ visible effort to really fit to the

1:47:39 ↗ natural contours

1:47:41 ↗ uh and the natural woodland and forest

1:47:44 ↗ and by the way

1:47:45 ↗ forest it's not a

1:47:47 ↗ it's not just

1:47:48 ↗ trees you know there's they had an

1:47:51 ↗ arborist look at it uh say some of the

1:47:53 ↗ trees were unhealthy

1:47:55 ↗ forests always have unhealthy trees in

1:47:56 ↗ them

1:47:57 ↗ uh but forests know how to make new

1:47:59 ↗ trees they make babies that's what makes

1:48:01 ↗ them forests and not just trees

1:48:03 ↗ and

1:48:04 ↗ you know the city of issaquah has an

1:48:06 ↗ opportunity here to

1:48:07 ↗ have a school

1:48:09 ↗ uh but have it fit a site

1:48:11 ↗ and

1:48:12 ↗ have it demonstrate conservation for for

1:48:14 ↗ the community

1:48:16 ↗ thank you for the community

1:48:18 ↗ for the students for the faculty

1:48:22 ↗ and for the neighbors of providence

1:48:24 ↗ thank you very much

1:48:31 ↗ the next speaker is amy mccauley

1:48:34 ↗ i do not see um

1:48:37 ↗ ms mccauley on the phone

1:48:39 ↗ [Music]

1:48:41 ↗ uh if you're on please uh let me know

1:48:47 ↗ the next speaker is

1:48:52 ↗ cleena dupey

1:48:54 ↗ dupe dupoy

1:48:56 ↗ i um

1:48:58 ↗ cannot make you a panelist but i can

1:49:00 ↗ unmute you

1:49:06 ↗ yes please proceed

1:49:09 ↗ uh my name is kleine jupi i'm a resident

1:49:12 ↗ of providence point and i'm also a

1:49:15 ↗ taxpayer

1:49:16 ↗ i have brief comments i think the

1:49:19 ↗ commission is doing itself a disservice

1:49:22 ↗ if they don't visit the site and see

1:49:26 ↗ the concerns that the community has

1:49:29 ↗ regarding

1:49:30 ↗ the uh

1:49:32 ↗ condition of it and the proposed

1:49:34 ↗ buildings that will be placed on the

1:49:36 ↗ site

1:49:38 ↗ uh secondly

1:49:39 ↗ um i'm a nuts and bolts person

1:49:42 ↗ and uh we all know that the new

1:49:45 ↗ signalization of the providence point

1:49:48 ↗ main entrance took over a year to

1:49:51 ↗ complete

1:49:53 ↗ what kind of proposal

1:49:56 ↗ is

1:49:58 ↗ in the thinking to address

1:50:01 ↗ signalizing the entrance to the school

1:50:05 ↗ and building the school is 228th

1:50:08 ↗ going to be a virtual

1:50:10 ↗ uh parking lot for two years or so while

1:50:14 ↗ all of this is happening

1:50:17 ↗ i think that is a very significant issue

1:50:20 ↗ and thirdly for issaquah to be

1:50:24 ↗ such an ardent

1:50:26 ↗ uh environmentally

1:50:29 ↗ proactive community

1:50:31 ↗ why do we not see any indication

1:50:34 ↗ of any energy saving uh

1:50:38 ↗ proposals being

1:50:40 ↗ made for the school there are no solar

1:50:43 ↗ panels there's no uh other um

1:50:48 ↗ efforts made to

1:50:50 ↗ um

1:50:52 ↗ provide for

1:50:53 ↗ an environmentally

1:50:55 ↗ sound site

1:50:57 ↗ thank you very much

1:51:01 ↗ thank you

1:51:05 ↗ the next speaker is joanna buehler ms

1:51:08 ↗ bueller i have unmuted you feel free to

1:51:11 ↗ turn on your camera and

1:51:13 ↗ let us know your thoughts

1:51:19 ↗ hello yes we can hear you

1:51:22 ↗ uh i don't know what happened to the

1:51:23 ↗ video so i apologize i will talk to you

1:51:26 ↗ instead

1:51:27 ↗ good evening my name is joanna buehler

1:51:29 ↗ and i'm talking on behalf of save lake

1:51:31 ↗ samamish it's an old volunteer group

1:51:35 ↗ and so we appreciate your effort also as

1:51:37 ↗ a volunteer group

1:51:40 ↗ uh we urge you to do recommend denial of

1:51:43 ↗ the state

1:51:45 ↗ of the site development plan at this

1:51:47 ↗ time and for these reasons

1:51:49 ↗ number one once the site development

1:51:51 ↗ plan is permit is granted

1:51:54 ↗ the ground has been broken there will be

1:51:55 ↗ no turning back there's no plan b

1:52:00 ↗ once

1:52:02 ↗ the associate school district

1:52:04 ↗ gets going they have an inherent

1:52:06 ↗ conflict of interest by being both

1:52:08 ↗ proponent and reviewer of all subsequent

1:52:11 ↗ environmental decisions

1:52:13 ↗ their refusal to conduct an honest

1:52:15 ↗ environmental impact statement is

1:52:18 ↗ indicative that they have negligible

1:52:20 ↗ concern for the environment

1:52:23 ↗ and indeed they have a financial

1:52:24 ↗ incentive to cut corners

1:52:28 ↗ number one they do not have the funds to

1:52:30 ↗ complete this project and we'll be

1:52:32 ↗ asking property owners to shell out more

1:52:34 ↗ millions and they've tucked this in with

1:52:36 ↗ their technology level which uh levy

1:52:39 ↗ which is coming to the taxpayers this

1:52:42 ↗ april

1:52:43 ↗ at the same time the state is seeking

1:52:45 ↗ funding to retrofit schools for

1:52:47 ↗ earthquake hazards and yet this proposed

1:52:50 ↗ school complex will sit on a branch of

1:52:52 ↗ the seattle fault on a very steep

1:52:55 ↗ hillside

1:52:57 ↗ drainage plans are inadequate and they

1:52:59 ↗ put the unique wild native lakes and

1:53:02 ↗ mammals cockney at further risk of

1:53:04 ↗ extinction

1:53:05 ↗ for 30 some years now the community has

1:53:09 ↗ been expanding funds and efforts to try

1:53:12 ↗ and protect

1:53:13 ↗ these fish

1:53:16 ↗ and

1:53:16 ↗ laughing jacob's creek is one of only

1:53:20 ↗ four creeks that still support

1:53:23 ↗ runs of these salmon

1:53:27 ↗ and all of the runoff is going to go

1:53:29 ↗ into laughing jacob's creek

1:53:32 ↗ detention which they propose reduces the

1:53:35 ↗ volume of peak flow reduces the volume

1:53:38 ↗ of the peak flows but it increases the

1:53:41 ↗ flow duration so the scar in the stream

1:53:44 ↗ it will be equal ultimately

1:53:47 ↗ detention as proposed also has the

1:53:49 ↗ potential to starve the preak of the

1:53:52 ↗ needed flows in the summer and fall when

1:53:55 ↗ when uh there's very little water left

1:53:57 ↗ in them

1:54:00 ↗ effective water quality treatment is

1:54:02 ↗ expensive and needs to have a

1:54:03 ↗ maintenance plan hydro seeding

1:54:06 ↗ uh proposed for soil storage for the

1:54:08 ↗ elementary school is not particularly uh

1:54:11 ↗ good in the beginning and it's laden

1:54:13 ↗ with phosphorus and other nutrients

1:54:15 ↗ um

1:54:17 ↗ which will go and increase the

1:54:20 ↗ bill milford growth in lake smamish

1:54:24 ↗ road and traffic permits have not been

1:54:26 ↗ issued

1:54:27 ↗ why is the department is the district

1:54:30 ↗ proposing a 20th century

1:54:34 ↗ thank you for your listening to my

1:54:36 ↗ comments

1:54:40 ↗ thank you miss bueller

1:54:47 ↗ the next speaker is irene ing she has

1:54:52 ↗ withdrawn her request to speak

1:54:55 ↗ the next speaker is patrick mullaney

1:54:59 ↗ i don't believe he is here if

1:55:03 ↗ mr mullaney is here could he please

1:55:05 ↗ raise his hand

1:55:12 ↗ okay i do not see him the next three

1:55:15 ↗ speakers are david kyle sam lynn

1:55:19 ↗ and andrew kenofick

1:55:24 ↗ david i am unmuting you

1:55:28 ↗ please feel free to turn on your camera

1:55:30 ↗ and begin speaking

1:55:33 ↗ hello if you can see me and hear me my

1:55:35 ↗ name is uh dave

1:55:36 ↗ i work out of uh 2000 northwest mammoth

1:55:39 ↗ road right at this

1:55:41 ↗ excuse me the lakes mana state park

1:55:43 ↗ and i'm an active restorationist in the

1:55:46 ↗ city i wanted to thank you all for the

1:55:48 ↗ opportunity to provide comment and your

1:55:52 ↗ dedication

1:55:55 ↗ it's much appreciated i'm the uh lakes

1:55:58 ↗ managed company program manager for

1:55:59 ↗ trout unlimited i've been focused on

1:56:00 ↗ like managed cockney restoration stream

1:56:02 ↗ restoration outreach and education all

1:56:04 ↗ to keep the beloved little redfish from

1:56:06 ↗ extinction

1:56:07 ↗ in addition to conducting kokanee

1:56:09 ↗ spawning and fry immigration monitoring

1:56:12 ↗ i've been advancing priority restoration

1:56:14 ↗ identified for laughing jacobs creek one

1:56:16 ↗ of three primary company streams for the

1:56:18 ↗ last five years

1:56:20 ↗ we're currently advancing restoration

1:56:22 ↗ design and permitting for these reaches

1:56:24 ↗ and will be seeking funding to make the

1:56:25 ↗ project a reality in the next few years

1:56:29 ↗ i'm very concerned about the projects

1:56:32 ↗ this projects

1:56:33 ↗ 900 000 square feet of impervious

1:56:36 ↗ surfaces and its effects on the

1:56:38 ↗ watershed fish that utilize it and the

1:56:40 ↗ public and private property will be

1:56:42 ↗ impacted we've already witnessed

1:56:44 ↗ increased flows and flow frequency

1:56:46 ↗ resulting in scouring large deposition

1:56:49 ↗ burying salmon reds higher flows are

1:56:51 ↗ expected as a consequence of climate

1:56:53 ↗ change and increased impervious surfaces

1:56:55 ↗ in the watershed and affected one of our

1:56:58 ↗ long-term downstream residents access to

1:57:01 ↗ his home for over 80 years it undermined

1:57:03 ↗ his soul bridge to drive in

1:57:06 ↗ if you walked up the canyon from the

1:57:08 ↗ lower end

1:57:09 ↗ you would see that the canyon walls are

1:57:11 ↗ very steep mostly glacial till and are

1:57:14 ↗ generally unstable additional surface

1:57:16 ↗ flow could cause mass wasting

1:57:18 ↗ resulting in significant sedimentation

1:57:20 ↗ impacting fish infrastructure public

1:57:22 ↗ property and downstream residents

1:57:25 ↗ i do not believe that this project

1:57:27 ↗ proposal has fully captured the true

1:57:29 ↗ impacts to the watershed isd has no

1:57:32 ↗ intention to complete a full eis and

1:57:35 ↗ cannot confidently claim that this

1:57:37 ↗ project will have no significant impact

1:57:39 ↗ to the watershed i would request isd to

1:57:42 ↗ do the following to help the bet excuse

1:57:44 ↗ me make the best

1:57:46 ↗ informed decision to minimize this

1:57:48 ↗ project's impacts to the watershed

1:57:50 ↗ evaluate the entire project's impacts

1:57:52 ↗ this project's impact has been

1:57:54 ↗ arbitrarily separated by jurisdictional

1:57:56 ↗ boundary

1:57:57 ↗ conduct cumulative effects analysis

1:58:00 ↗ specifically focused on a hydrologic

1:58:02 ↗ perspective analysis should include

1:58:05 ↗ existing effects and impact

1:58:08 ↗ flow durations flow frequencies within

1:58:10 ↗ laughing jacobs creeks and what the

1:58:12 ↗ additive effects would be as a

1:58:14 ↗ consequence of this proposed project

1:58:17 ↗ and the expected consequences of climate

1:58:19 ↗ change and consider the downstream

1:58:21 ↗ impacts of this project before below all

1:58:23 ↗ the outflows from this project i would

1:58:26 ↗ hope that providence points project

1:58:27 ↗ would aim to be a shining example

1:58:29 ↗ responsible development to prioritize

1:58:31 ↗ protecting our watersheds and supports

1:58:33 ↗ the massive collaborative effort to save

1:58:35 ↗ the native lakes and mammograms

1:58:39 ↗ at this point i cannot say it does thank

1:58:41 ↗ you for hearing my concerns

1:58:45 ↗ thank you mr kyle the next speaker is

1:58:48 ↗ sam lynn

1:58:50 ↗ who has already unmuted himself

1:58:53 ↗ feel free to turn on your camera and

1:58:55 ↗ share your concerns

1:58:59 ↗ well i cannot get the video to click i'm

1:59:02 ↗ still understanding

1:59:03 ↗ not to worry we can hear you

1:59:06 ↗ all right

1:59:07 ↗ uh well lucy that's the shortest last

1:59:09 ↗ name you're going to have to deal with

1:59:11 ↗ tonight so

1:59:14 ↗ good evening development commission

1:59:16 ↗ members

1:59:17 ↗ thank you for this opportunity to speak

1:59:20 ↗ i am sam lin a retired physician

1:59:22 ↗ rear admiral and assistant surgeon

1:59:24 ↗ general

1:59:25 ↗ and i am a residence and homeowner in

1:59:27 ↗ issaquah

1:59:29 ↗ i'm a strong proponent of education both

1:59:31 ↗ my parents were teachers and i'm an

1:59:33 ↗ adjunct graduate professor

1:59:36 ↗ but i'm just as strong of a proponent in

1:59:38 ↗ considering aspects of our environmental

1:59:40 ↗ and natural resources

1:59:42 ↗ and while i sense that public officials

1:59:44 ↗ are disrespecting their stewardship in

1:59:46 ↗ protecting our local environment i will

1:59:48 ↗ not condone their actions

1:59:51 ↗ i draw your attention to the district's

1:59:52 ↗ disregard for the significant increase

1:59:55 ↗ in stormwater runoff secondary to the

1:59:57 ↗ construction and operation of the

1:59:59 ↗ proposed project

2:00:01 ↗ the combined sequelae of destroying 77

2:00:04 ↗ percent of the tree canopy and the

2:00:06 ↗ laying of 900 000 square feet of

2:00:08 ↗ impervious rooftops concrete asphalt and

2:00:11 ↗ brick will be a downhill outpouring of

2:00:14 ↗ storm waters giving the missing canopies

2:00:17 ↗ disbursement of rain and the severely

2:00:19 ↗ reduced surfaces for ground absorption

2:00:22 ↗ consequently there will be storm water

2:00:24 ↗ flooding erosion and landslides

2:00:26 ↗ impacting wetlands and private homes

2:00:28 ↗ downstream

2:00:29 ↗ and as you've heard because these

2:00:31 ↗ waterways ultimately flow into laughing

2:00:33 ↗ jacob's creek the spawning grounds of

2:00:35 ↗ the kokanee salmon

2:00:37 ↗ flooding and erosion will kill the

2:00:39 ↗ salmon fry

2:00:40 ↗ the district has glossed over this real

2:00:42 ↗ concern with the rationalization that

2:00:44 ↗ because of several sets of controlled

2:00:46 ↗ stormwater holding tanks the new flow

2:00:48 ↗ rate will be no greater than the current

2:00:50 ↗ rate

2:00:51 ↗ that part is true

2:00:53 ↗ but the district refuses to recognize

2:00:55 ↗ that the total volume

2:00:57 ↗ known as the total flow volume will

2:01:00 ↗ increase exponentially because of the

2:01:01 ↗ increase in impervious surfaces

2:01:04 ↗ erosion landslides and wetlands damage

2:01:06 ↗ will be the preventable results

2:01:09 ↗ property owners downstream already have

2:01:11 ↗ indicated they will file suit against

2:01:13 ↗ the district for damages due to this

2:01:15 ↗ increased flow volume

2:01:18 ↗ and as far as landslides let me just say

2:01:20 ↗ one thing cougar mountain middle school

2:01:28 ↗ lastly the district contracted for two

2:01:30 ↗ wetland classification surveys in 2000

2:01:33 ↗ or 2019

2:01:35 ↗ both surveys assigned a vulnerability

2:01:37 ↗ rating of wetland category 4 the least

2:01:40 ↗ vulnerable category

2:01:42 ↗ the rating points were just one point

2:01:44 ↗ below the next vulnerable category

2:01:46 ↗ however these surveys are suspected of

2:01:49 ↗ blatant errors such as stating that the

2:01:51 ↗ wetlands do not empty into a body of

2:01:53 ↗ water within a mile i believe it's

2:01:55 ↗ called lake sammamish

2:01:57 ↗ correction of these errors would

2:01:58 ↗ reclassify the wetlands to a category

2:02:01 ↗ three a more endangered area with

2:02:03 ↗ increased vulnerabilities the

2:02:05 ↗ questionable manner in which the

2:02:06 ↗ district has treated these issues places

2:02:08 ↗ the onus on you the commission to

2:02:10 ↗ require a more responsible stormwater

2:02:12 ↗ mitigation and a more accurate

2:02:14 ↗ categorization of the wetlands as well

2:02:16 ↗ as an independent environmental impact

2:02:19 ↗ study

2:02:20 ↗ the district will not conduct these for

2:02:21 ↗ the property owners or the wetlands and

2:02:23 ↗ so it is up to you to direct them to do

2:02:25 ↗ so and report back to you with accuracy

2:02:27 ↗ and transparency thank you for your time

2:02:30 ↗ and your service commission members

2:02:35 ↗ thank you uh the next speaker is andrew

2:02:39 ↗ kenofick

2:02:41 ↗ uh good evening thank you very much mr

2:02:43 ↗ chair and commissioners um i am a

2:02:46 ↗ retired seattle lawyer i'm also the

2:02:50 ↗ current voluntary chair for the

2:02:53 ↗ washington council of trout unlimited in

2:02:55 ↗ their advocacy committee i'm here to

2:02:57 ↗ talk to you about stormwater but with

2:02:59 ↗ respect to a more recently

2:03:02 ↗ emerging issue in storm water control

2:03:05 ↗ and that has to do with whether or not

2:03:06 ↗ the storm water system

2:03:08 ↗ proposed for the school would be

2:03:11 ↗ adequate to protect

2:03:13 ↗ kokanee and other salmon including coho

2:03:16 ↗ from a recently identified problem with

2:03:19 ↗ tire wear particles

2:03:21 ↗ and i'm talking about the um the rubber

2:03:23 ↗ that comes off tires i'm talking about

2:03:25 ↗ the rubber that might be used in the in

2:03:28 ↗ the play fields in the sports fields at

2:03:30 ↗ the school

2:03:31 ↗ specifically recent studies from the

2:03:33 ↗ university of washington in washington

2:03:35 ↗ state have identified

2:03:37 ↗ a compound in tire 6ppd

2:03:40 ↗ and it transforms into another product

2:03:42 ↗ called 6ppd quinone this was pretty well

2:03:45 ↗ advert um uh um publicized

2:03:49 ↗ about a year ago when this issue came up

2:03:51 ↗ and since then it has received

2:03:54 ↗ intense scrutiny

2:03:55 ↗ at the state level and even in congress

2:03:58 ↗ as to what the impacts are uh from these

2:04:01 ↗ tire wear particles and six ppd quinone

2:04:05 ↗ the uh with respect to coho

2:04:08 ↗ it has been attributing attributed

2:04:11 ↗ approximately 40 to 90 percent mortality

2:04:14 ↗ in returning adult coho i'm not talking

2:04:17 ↗ about fry i'm not talking about

2:04:18 ↗ juveniles i'm talking about coho

2:04:21 ↗ migrating upstream to spawn in the puget

2:04:24 ↗ sound area a 40 to 90 percent mortality

2:04:27 ↗ rate

2:04:29 ↗ and

2:04:30 ↗ more studies are now being done

2:04:32 ↗ including studies on other species of

2:04:34 ↗ fish other species of salmon one came

2:04:36 ↗ out just today showing mortality for for

2:04:39 ↗ um for a rainbow trout which is an issue

2:04:42 ↗ here and then brook trout which is not

2:04:43 ↗ so much an issue

2:04:45 ↗ um

2:04:46 ↗ i would encourage the

2:04:48 ↗ consultants to look very carefully at

2:04:50 ↗ their stormwater treatment system as to

2:04:53 ↗ whether it is going to be capable of

2:04:55 ↗ managing and treating for

2:04:58 ↗ the 6ppd queen owned and i point this

2:05:00 ↗ out in part because you have

2:05:02 ↗ not only the tire wear particles from

2:05:04 ↗ the roadways but also

2:05:07 ↗ i think you'll have to look carefully at

2:05:09 ↗ what you're going to do for the sports

2:05:10 ↗ fields in terms of using a chrome rubber

2:05:13 ↗ for

2:05:14 ↗ 30 seconds for those fields

2:05:17 ↗ that is all i had to say with that but i

2:05:19 ↗ do certainly concur with the comments

2:05:21 ↗ made by mr kyle from uh who was also

2:05:25 ↗ speaking for trout unlimited thank you

2:05:27 ↗ very much

2:05:31 ↗ thank you

2:05:35 ↗ the next three speakers are mary

2:05:39 ↗ daratus

2:05:41 ↗ ron imhof and richard johnson

2:05:47 ↗ ms uh

2:05:48 ↗ dariatis uh you are unmuted

2:05:54 ↗ hi everyone

2:05:56 ↗ i am mary daredes a resident of issaquah

2:05:59 ↗ i formerly taught at the uw college of

2:06:01 ↗ engineering

2:06:02 ↗ and at lake washington technical college

2:06:05 ↗ my concern is that the district has

2:06:07 ↗ completely ignored zero energy building

2:06:11 ↗ techniques

2:06:12 ↗ a standard in new school construction

2:06:15 ↗ for nearly a decade

2:06:17 ↗ i sent you an email with links to

2:06:19 ↗ research that shows zero build

2:06:22 ↗ increases student attendance with better

2:06:25 ↗ academic outcomes

2:06:27 ↗ improves indoor air quality

2:06:29 ↗ provides greater teacher retention

2:06:32 ↗ and it costs no more to build

2:06:35 ↗ the conventional schools and sometimes

2:06:38 ↗ even less according to the national

2:06:40 ↗ research renewable energy lab most

2:06:44 ↗ important though is that it decreases

2:06:47 ↗ operational costs

2:06:49 ↗ 65 to 80 percent

2:06:52 ↗ money that districts around the country

2:06:54 ↗ have channeled back into student

2:06:56 ↗ programs one example of zero energy is

2:06:59 ↗ bioretention

2:07:01 ↗ which collects cleans and slowly

2:07:03 ↗ releases water it's not as sexy as what

2:07:06 ↗ todd talked about last night as far as

2:07:08 ↗ engineering

2:07:10 ↗ instead it takes the runoff from

2:07:12 ↗ impervious surfaces then reuses that

2:07:15 ↗ water on site

2:07:17 ↗ reusing the on-site water would add less

2:07:20 ↗ strain to sammamish plateau water

2:07:23 ↗ it would decrease water costs for the

2:07:25 ↗ new schools significantly money that

2:07:28 ↗ would go back into student programs

2:07:31 ↗ and it would also provide water to the

2:07:34 ↗ much touted vegetated buffer area

2:07:37 ↗ under the proposed plan

2:07:39 ↗ that buffer doesn't receive the water it

2:07:42 ↗ does now

2:07:43 ↗ it would turn it into a dangerous fire

2:07:46 ↗ hazard

2:07:48 ↗ everyone knows that we need this high

2:07:50 ↗ school and we've heard a lot of people

2:07:51 ↗ say that

2:07:52 ↗ but this design does not have the future

2:07:55 ↗ in mind

2:07:58 ↗ and couple of other related unrelated

2:08:00 ↗ comments

2:08:02 ↗ this high school only has two music

2:08:04 ↗ practice rooms for all 1800 students i

2:08:07 ↗ know that's outside the provence of the

2:08:09 ↗ code but

2:08:11 ↗ it's it's shameful

2:08:14 ↗ also

2:08:15 ↗ in 2020 the commission asked if the

2:08:18 ↗ rooftop units from the bordering homes

2:08:21 ↗ would be properly screened from the

2:08:23 ↗ school

2:08:24 ↗ the applicants said yes

2:08:26 ↗ but visuals have never been presented

2:08:29 ↗ will they be

2:08:31 ↗ and lastly

2:08:32 ↗ it was encouraging to hear last night

2:08:34 ↗ that the district's recent negotiation

2:08:37 ↗ with bellwood's attorney and the living

2:08:40 ↗ green wall solution

2:08:41 ↗ will they also be providing that on

2:08:44 ↗ retaining walls that face other

2:08:45 ↗ bordering homes

2:08:47 ↗ thank you so much

2:08:52 ↗ thank you

2:08:56 ↗ the next speaker is ron imhoff

2:09:00 ↗ you are unmuted

2:09:02 ↗ feel free to turn on your camera and

2:09:04 ↗ share your thoughts

2:09:06 ↗ okay i think i'll leave my camera off

2:09:08 ↗ sure sure

2:09:10 ↗ hello my name is ron imploth and i'm a

2:09:13 ↗ resident and homeowner in issaquah

2:09:16 ↗ you may have heard that yogi berra said

2:09:18 ↗ nobody goes there anymore it's too

2:09:20 ↗ crowded

2:09:21 ↗ well that might be how you should think

2:09:23 ↗ of the plans for the new high school

2:09:26 ↗ if you look at the most recent school

2:09:28 ↗ district capital facilities plan

2:09:31 ↗ it shows that over the next 10 years the

2:09:34 ↗ high school population will drop

2:09:36 ↗ to about 4 700

2:09:39 ↗ students by 2034.

2:09:41 ↗ that is 400 students lower than what it

2:09:44 ↗ was in 2012 and about 800 students lower

2:09:48 ↗ than currently enrolled

2:09:51 ↗ what is the issue with the current

2:09:52 ↗ schools it is claimed to be overcrowding

2:09:56 ↗ but where is the overcrowding

2:09:58 ↗ it is not in the classrooms the most

2:10:01 ↗ recent capital facilities plan shows

2:10:03 ↗ there are enough classrooms to avoid

2:10:05 ↗ overcrowding so where is it

2:10:08 ↗ i have heard that it is in the hallways

2:10:10 ↗ the lunchrooms and the bathrooms

2:10:13 ↗ over the years we've heard about

2:10:14 ↗ wasteful government spending the one

2:10:17 ↗ thousand dollar hammers the fifty

2:10:19 ↗ thousand dollar toilets

2:10:20 ↗ well this new high school might be

2:10:22 ↗ called the

2:10:23 ↗ 198 million dollar bathroom

2:10:27 ↗ don't continue to approve wasteful

2:10:29 ↗ spending stop the project now

2:10:31 ↗ thanks for listening

2:10:36 ↗ thank you

2:10:42 ↗ the next speaker is

2:10:44 ↗ richard johnson

2:10:46 ↗ you've unmuted

2:10:48 ↗ feel free to turn on your camera and

2:10:50 ↗ share your thoughts i just did thank you

2:10:52 ↗ lucy

2:10:53 ↗ my name's richard johnson i'm an

2:10:55 ↗ issaquah resident and i'm a providence

2:10:57 ↗ point homeowner

2:10:58 ↗ i will speak to the ccnr's requirement

2:11:02 ↗ the language in this document must must

2:11:04 ↗ be explicit ccnr's must contain clear

2:11:08 ↗ and specific rules with measurable

2:11:10 ↗ standards backed by enforceable

2:11:12 ↗ consequences that are unbendable to

2:11:15 ↗ slanted interpretations

2:11:17 ↗ the ccnr's must be completed in detail

2:11:20 ↗ before permits are issued to the school

2:11:23 ↗ district found a school district a pass

2:11:26 ↗ just with a promise to satisfy this

2:11:28 ↗ requirement after permits are granted

2:11:30 ↗ will likely only result in a vague

2:11:32 ↗ document shrouded in window dressing and

2:11:35 ↗ based on lofty glittering generalities

2:11:39 ↗ that will essentially strip

2:11:40 ↗ neighborhoods of any chance of ensuring

2:11:42 ↗ the district will live up to commitments

2:11:45 ↗ both during and post construction

2:11:48 ↗ to date the district's touted design

2:11:51 ↗ project improvements have evolved mostly

2:11:53 ↗ from the providence point community

2:11:55 ↗ seeking legal assistance and engaging in

2:11:57 ↗ community-wide publicity to compel those

2:12:00 ↗ improvements

2:12:02 ↗ last night you heard the district's

2:12:04 ↗ leadership touts of their past

2:12:06 ↗ engagement with providence point

2:12:08 ↗ community you may also notice that such

2:12:10 ↗ statements were not immediately followed

2:12:12 ↗ by meaningful outcomes from those

2:12:15 ↗ engagements

2:12:16 ↗ perhaps this is because their past

2:12:18 ↗ strong armed

2:12:19 ↗ proved not to be as effective as

2:12:21 ↗ employing collegial approaches that

2:12:24 ↗ would have that would have been

2:12:25 ↗ regardless

2:12:27 ↗ out the actual outcomes resulted in the

2:12:29 ↗ community's

2:12:30 ↗ warranted distrust and suspicion

2:12:33 ↗ instead of their cooperation and support

2:12:36 ↗ if the district's leadership truly means

2:12:38 ↗ to live up to their trite good neighbor

2:12:41 ↗ sound bite they would sincerely engage

2:12:44 ↗ the prominent point community team

2:12:47 ↗ leadership team to collaboratively craft

2:12:50 ↗ the ccnr's document that is mutually

2:12:53 ↗ beneficial to the community the district

2:12:55 ↗ and the city of esqua

2:12:58 ↗ by leaving behind their past attempts at

2:13:00 ↗ strong-armed tactics

2:13:02 ↗ such a sincere approach would probably

2:13:05 ↗ transform the district's good neighbor

2:13:06 ↗ sound bite from one that just rings with

2:13:08 ↗ a thud

2:13:10 ↗ to occul to one that actually rings true

2:13:13 ↗ despite such a notion i believe that

2:13:15 ↗ such collapse collaboration will only

2:13:17 ↗ occur through your imposing such a

2:13:20 ↗ condition of collaboration with the

2:13:22 ↗ providence point community

2:13:23 ↗ on the district 30 seconds

2:13:26 ↗ commissioners i appeal to you to insist

2:13:28 ↗ that the ccnr's are meaningful complete

2:13:31 ↗ and agreeable to the providence point

2:13:33 ↗ community before

2:13:35 ↗ permits are issued the ccnr's cannot be

2:13:38 ↗ allowed to be circumvented by the

2:13:40 ↗ district please do not let the district

2:13:42 ↗ legally and run spirit intent of the

2:13:44 ↗ ccnr's

2:13:46 ↗ as part of the providence point

2:13:47 ↗ community i can i can only look to this

2:13:50 ↗ commission to help us finally dial back

2:13:52 ↗ the collective endless legal rank that

2:13:55 ↗ we have engaged for both the district

2:13:57 ↗ and issaquah

2:13:59 ↗ thank you

2:14:04 ↗ thank you

2:14:09 ↗ so we have um

2:14:10 ↗ our we have the last speaker on the list

2:14:14 ↗ which is janelle

2:14:16 ↗ tamela

2:14:17 ↗ and then two speakers where we had

2:14:19 ↗ technical difficulties timothy brown and

2:14:23 ↗ william lyder

2:14:24 ↗ so we'll begin with uh janelle

2:14:30 ↗ you have been unmuted uh feel free to

2:14:32 ↗ turn on your camera and start speaking

2:14:34 ↗ when you're ready okay i

2:14:36 ↗ i'm trying to start the video but i

2:14:38 ↗ don't really know how uh when we see you

2:14:42 ↗ oh good okay that's great hi there sorry

2:14:44 ↗ about that um as you said um hi thank

2:14:47 ↗ you for your time tonight my name is

2:14:49 ↗ janelle tomaela i've lived in the

2:14:51 ↗ issaquah area for 20 years um i wanted

2:14:53 ↗ to start with a super nice story that i

2:14:55 ↗ just recently heard about

2:14:57 ↗ timber ridge

2:14:59 ↗ their retirement community located in

2:15:01 ↗ talus

2:15:02 ↗ um just this week we were really excited

2:15:04 ↗ to open our newest middle school right

2:15:06 ↗ next to them which is at the base of

2:15:07 ↗ talus at the beginning of this they ask

2:15:10 ↗ questions which is absolutely within

2:15:12 ↗ their rights and i'm so glad that they

2:15:14 ↗ did

2:15:15 ↗ but after those conversations they

2:15:17 ↗ realized that isd keeps their promises

2:15:19 ↗ and they're happy now to have the school

2:15:21 ↗ opening and in fact they actually asked

2:15:23 ↗ if they could bring cookies to the next

2:15:25 ↗ staff meeting

2:15:26 ↗ that to me is what community is and i'm

2:15:29 ↗ really really happy to be

2:15:31 ↗ look forward to them working with our

2:15:33 ↗ schools and the that's kind of how it's

2:15:36 ↗ supposed to be where you can welcome uh

2:15:38 ↗ growth growth is hard but this is what's

2:15:40 ↗ happening

2:15:41 ↗ um i am here to

2:15:44 ↗ happily

2:15:45 ↗ advocate again for the need for our

2:15:47 ↗ fourth high school in issaquah school

2:15:49 ↗ district we moved here because of the

2:15:51 ↗ schools and i have to tell you that

2:15:53 ↗ these schools are overcrowded

2:15:55 ↗ i think that

2:15:57 ↗ everybody's using time to think of all

2:15:59 ↗ the ways that maybe it wouldn't make

2:16:01 ↗ sense but the truth is

2:16:03 ↗ we have worked hard to

2:16:05 ↗ hear and meet and even exceed the

2:16:09 ↗ concerns that adjacent neighbors have

2:16:11 ↗ had

2:16:12 ↗ our kids need this high school they need

2:16:14 ↗ to be able to connect again in a real

2:16:15 ↗ way our hallways are so packed and is

2:16:18 ↗ not conducive to a healthy learning

2:16:20 ↗ environment mental health is taking a

2:16:22 ↗ toll and it's heartbreaking to say the

2:16:24 ↗ least

2:16:24 ↗ the kids in our schools today are the

2:16:26 ↗ future of our community they will

2:16:28 ↗ someday live here and pay taxes let's

2:16:31 ↗ invest in them now so that they know

2:16:33 ↗ their worth please approve these plans

2:16:36 ↗ so that we can move forward to the next

2:16:37 ↗ steps

2:16:38 ↗ please be on the right side of this and

2:16:40 ↗ go forward

2:16:41 ↗ i want you also to know that i have

2:16:43 ↗ looked at the plans closely and i've

2:16:44 ↗ listened to residents adjacent to this

2:16:47 ↗ plan

2:16:48 ↗ growth is really tough again and we have

2:16:52 ↗ had quite the influx of residents over

2:16:54 ↗ the past 20 years

2:16:56 ↗ uh the district has responded to the

2:16:58 ↗ neighbors concerns i hate hearing all of

2:17:00 ↗ these this misinformation happening

2:17:02 ↗ tonight because it's actually not it's

2:17:04 ↗ it's just it's not factual

2:17:06 ↗ they have added more buffer than is

2:17:08 ↗ required they took huge steps to

2:17:10 ↗ minimize noise and light issues and

2:17:12 ↗ because our schools are good neighbors

2:17:15 ↗ um we are good neighbors to excuse me

2:17:17 ↗ build schools that are good neighbors

2:17:19 ↗ every school has neighbors and isd has

2:17:21 ↗ been compliant and helpful to make sure

2:17:22 ↗ that our community sees schools as a

2:17:24 ↗ positive addition to our neighborhoods

2:17:26 ↗ it addressed the traffic issues and it's

2:17:28 ↗ made step

2:17:29 ↗ to mitigate those in a profound way the

2:17:32 ↗ society has been designing specifically

2:17:34 ↗ with those concerns in mind and it's

2:17:35 ↗ time to give isd your blessings and let

2:17:37 ↗ us move forward for the kids at the end

2:17:40 ↗ it's for the kids thank you so much for

2:17:41 ↗ your time tonight

2:17:49 ↗ so i just want

2:17:51 ↗ to mention that

2:17:54 ↗ i

2:17:55 ↗ after these last two speakers we will

2:17:57 ↗ have some time if the commission wants

2:17:59 ↗ to open the floor to um speakers who

2:18:02 ↗ have not signed up

2:18:05 ↗ the next speaker is

2:18:07 ↗ timothy brown

2:18:09 ↗ who is unmuted please proceed mr brown

2:18:14 ↗ yes thank you very much for letting me

2:18:16 ↗ speak

2:18:17 ↗ uh i'm going to have to realize the

2:18:20 ↗ constraint that it has on this three

2:18:22 ↗ minutes i'm going to have to make my

2:18:23 ↗ comments very quick i may sound like

2:18:25 ↗ someone in a commercial speaking quickly

2:18:30 ↗ and i have i did write a four-page

2:18:33 ↗ critique of the noise study my comments

2:18:35 ↗ will only address the noise studies

2:18:38 ↗ let me give my conclusion first

2:18:40 ↗ it's that

2:18:41 ↗ if you look at the green bush noise

2:18:43 ↗ studies they are very incomplete

2:18:45 ↗ they ignore major sounds they do not

2:18:48 ↗ integrate all the data is available to

2:18:50 ↗ give you an overall estimate of the

2:18:51 ↗ impact

2:18:52 ↗ of of the project on providence point

2:18:56 ↗ take the first study at hand which is

2:18:58 ↗ the

2:18:59 ↗ the study that looked at the street

2:19:02 ↗ noise

2:19:03 ↗ you know the environmental checklist

2:19:05 ↗ requires that the developer actually

2:19:07 ↗ look at things near the site that have

2:19:10 ↗ loud noise including street noise and

2:19:13 ↗ make a determination if they're major or

2:19:15 ↗ not

2:19:17 ↗ although the person from greenwich today

2:19:19 ↗ shrugged that off they actually did do a

2:19:21 ↗ study they compared the sound in 2019

2:19:25 ↗ at the north part of the campus and the

2:19:27 ↗ south part of the campus with monitors

2:19:29 ↗ right at the property line

2:19:31 ↗ i would ask you to look yourselves at

2:19:34 ↗ these figures they're in the last two

2:19:36 ↗ pages of

2:19:39 ↗ appendix 46

2:19:41 ↗ their figures f4

2:19:44 ↗ and fb4 and fb5

2:19:47 ↗ what you'll be surprised to find out

2:19:48 ↗ when you look at those figures what they

2:19:50 ↗ show the the

2:19:51 ↗ line that shows the uh

2:19:54 ↗ the authorized line the level of that

2:19:56 ↗ and you find the actual sound of the

2:19:59 ↗ picked up at the monitors you will see

2:20:01 ↗ that the sound in the morning exceeds

2:20:03 ↗ now

2:20:05 ↗ the level it's 440

2:20:08 ↗ both the level up at the morning and at

2:20:10 ↗ night and it's over at 57 during the day

2:20:15 ↗ and when it's not on it's an hourly

2:20:17 ↗ hourly rating when it's not and that

2:20:19 ↗ hour above is just below

2:20:23 ↗ then for whatever reason they present

2:20:25 ↗ the data they make no conclusions no

2:20:27 ↗ interpretation and then they ignore it

2:20:29 ↗ they don't include it in anything else

2:20:30 ↗ they do they could have combined that

2:20:32 ↗ data with the on-site data which they

2:20:34 ↗ did collect

2:20:36 ↗ which they

2:20:37 ↗ monitored for what the sound will be

2:20:39 ↗ like once the high school and elementary

2:20:41 ↗ school are built they simply could have

2:20:43 ↗ factored in

2:20:45 ↗ another

2:20:46 ↗ and addition

2:20:47 ↗ talking about this 30 seconds

2:20:49 ↗ presumably that would have happened

2:20:52 ↗ finally on the

2:20:54 ↗ football stadium

2:20:56 ↗ they ignore that there is a a

2:21:00 ↗ band

2:21:01 ↗ in that stadium that should be factored

2:21:03 ↗ in you go

2:21:04 ↗ 510

2:21:07 ↗ decibels

2:21:08 ↗ that's only 50 yards from the problem

2:21:11 ↗ they also cite an incorrect what which

2:21:13 ↗ the staff also cite that says they don't

2:21:15 ↗ have to consider the on traffic flow

2:21:18 ↗ coming into the game they are required

2:21:20 ↗ to do that if they do both of that you

2:21:23 ↗ will find that they are beyond the legal

2:21:25 ↗ requirements

2:21:27 ↗ thank you

2:21:36 ↗ william lyder

2:21:38 ↗ feel free to turn on your camera and um

2:21:41 ↗ begin speaking

2:21:42 ↗ yeah so you hear me okay

2:21:44 ↗ yes yeah william lighter i'm a

2:21:46 ↗ professional civil engineer i've been

2:21:48 ↗ retained by the

2:21:50 ↗ providence point umbrella association to

2:21:52 ↗ represent them in civil engineering

2:21:54 ↗ matters and storm water issues

2:21:57 ↗ i'd also like to state that i was a

2:21:59 ↗ project manager on the mount lake

2:22:02 ↗ terrace high school

2:22:03 ↗ project

2:22:04 ↗ and i can speak personally and directly

2:22:06 ↗ to

2:22:07 ↗ what can happen when you have an

2:22:09 ↗ ill-planned ill-conceived

2:22:11 ↗ badly designed project with cost

2:22:13 ↗ overruns change orders and delays

2:22:16 ↗ on this particular project i submitted a

2:22:19 ↗ letter dated february 25th please read

2:22:22 ↗ that letter it's 19 pages

2:22:25 ↗ uh it also includes a august 5 2020

2:22:28 ↗ letter

2:22:29 ↗ that was never responded to

2:22:32 ↗ as of today

2:22:34 ↗ i won't go through everything in my

2:22:35 ↗ letter but a few high points are the

2:22:37 ↗ stockpile uh you really need to require

2:22:41 ↗ you know the

2:22:42 ↗ drawings on that how long will it be

2:22:44 ↗ there what is its footprint how will it

2:22:46 ↗ be contained to prevent erosion control

2:22:49 ↗ uh core requirement number one the

2:22:51 ↗ discharge the natural location

2:22:53 ↗ uh the

2:22:54 ↗ is not maintained

2:22:56 ↗ going to starve the trees of water that

2:22:59 ↗ hydraulically would be

2:23:01 ↗ funneled into either a point discharge

2:23:04 ↗ location

2:23:06 ↗ onto the providence point property or

2:23:09 ↗ routed off to 228th street

2:23:11 ↗ uh

2:23:13 ↗ the widening of

2:23:14 ↗ of southeast 43rd and 228th avenue

2:23:18 ↗ uh there has been no storm water

2:23:20 ↗ designed for that that is not exempt as

2:23:23 ↗ a traffic control project as i point out

2:23:25 ↗ in my report

2:23:27 ↗ there was no one-quarter mile downstream

2:23:30 ↗ analysis done

2:23:33 ↗ which is uh really critical because

2:23:35 ↗ just on the other side of

2:23:38 ↗ of 43rd

2:23:41 ↗ street

2:23:43 ↗ there's a 15 foot waterfall right next

2:23:46 ↗ to the access road onto the picnic point

2:23:49 ↗ property at southeast 43rd way

2:23:53 ↗ that waterfall can is lined with till

2:23:57 ↗ it is very susceptible to landslide the

2:23:59 ↗ entire area around it is designated as

2:24:02 ↗ landslide

2:24:03 ↗ hazard area by uh

2:24:05 ↗ by the geologists from this school

2:24:08 ↗ district and from the uh city

2:24:11 ↗ nobody has

2:24:13 ↗ looked at that uh the code the

2:24:15 ↗ stormwater manual requires seconds a

2:24:18 ↗ quarter mile downstream analysis be done

2:24:21 ↗ uh that has not been done if it washes

2:24:24 ↗ out not only will it block access to a

2:24:26 ↗ large portion of the providence point

2:24:29 ↗ area but it will cause massive

2:24:32 ↗ wasting into laughing jacob's creek

2:24:35 ↗ lastly there were no flow calculations

2:24:37 ↗ done to show that the 100 years storm

2:24:40 ↗ event can be conveyed by the existing

2:24:42 ↗ storm water system

2:24:44 ↗ now there's a big difference between

2:24:46 ↗ storm water flow control and

2:24:49 ↗ flood control

2:24:51 ↗ i thank you for your time do read my

2:24:54 ↗ report because it's very critical that

2:24:56 ↗ you do so thank you

2:25:01 ↗ that concludes the

2:25:04 ↗ speakers who have signed up

2:25:08 ↗ so

2:25:09 ↗ unless other commissioners since we do

2:25:11 ↗ have some additional time this evening

2:25:13 ↗ unless other commissioners

2:25:15 ↗ object i think we should allow for

2:25:17 ↗ anybody who

2:25:18 ↗ uh is attending this evening but did not

2:25:20 ↗ sign up an opportunity to speak

2:25:23 ↗ if they would like

2:25:25 ↗ are there any objections to hearing

2:25:27 ↗ additional speakers this evening from

2:25:28 ↗ the commission

2:25:30 ↗ i'm seeing no objections

2:25:33 ↗ so the same

2:25:35 ↗ approach will apply here if you would

2:25:37 ↗ like to speak

2:25:38 ↗ you can raise your virtual hand on your

2:25:40 ↗ computer or press star 3 on your phone

2:25:43 ↗ if you're attending by phone

2:25:48 ↗ okay the first hand

2:25:51 ↗ that's raised

2:25:54 ↗ is for telephone number beginning with

2:25:56 ↗ 425 606.

2:25:59 ↗ i

2:26:00 ↗ am going to unmute you

2:26:04 ↗ and i you may begin speaking

2:26:14 ↗ and also remind people to please

2:26:16 ↗ introduce yourself particularly if

2:26:17 ↗ you're attending by phone since we can't

2:26:20 ↗ see your name so

2:26:21 ↗ um that's helpful for the record thank

2:26:24 ↗ you

2:26:25 ↗ this is a calling uh

2:26:27 ↗ they're

2:26:29 ↗ gone um okay next uh

2:26:33 ↗ person whose hands raised

2:26:37 ↗ is their number begins 509

2:26:41 ↗ 230

2:26:46 ↗ you are

2:26:47 ↗ you are unmuted um please proceed

2:26:52 ↗ yes i'm betty steiner i'm a five-year

2:26:54 ↗ resident at providence point

2:26:57 ↗ and i'm very concerned with the

2:26:58 ↗ environmental uh study

2:27:01 ↗ that

2:27:02 ↗ we have asked for and

2:27:05 ↗ was not done and

2:27:07 ↗ i

2:27:08 ↗ really hear the

2:27:10 ↗ if the parents and the grandparents who

2:27:13 ↗ want a better

2:27:15 ↗ school working system for their kids i

2:27:18 ↗ was part of that and i worked hard in

2:27:20 ↗ spokane to bring that about in our

2:27:24 ↗ school district

2:27:25 ↗ but i would

2:27:27 ↗ like to know

2:27:29 ↗ if if these reports that have been done

2:27:33 ↗ at the behest of providence point and

2:27:36 ↗ other environmental groups have they

2:27:38 ↗ been presented to the school district

2:27:41 ↗ has the school district seen these

2:27:43 ↗ reports

2:27:44 ↗ have they

2:27:46 ↗ also asked for reports

2:27:50 ↗ similar to these to be done by the

2:27:52 ↗ proper and i do mean proper agencies

2:27:57 ↗ as providence point seems to have people

2:28:00 ↗ who really know what they're speaking

2:28:01 ↗ about and have credentials i would just

2:28:04 ↗ like to know

2:28:06 ↗ have

2:28:07 ↗ that have the school board members seen

2:28:09 ↗ the results of these projects

2:28:12 ↗ all right thank you

2:28:17 ↗ thank you

2:28:22 ↗ the next

2:28:23 ↗ speaker is

2:28:26 ↗ karen broyles

2:28:37 ↗ karen

2:28:38 ↗ disappeared um

2:28:45 ↗ hello

2:28:46 ↗ hello

2:28:48 ↗ i'm sorry i couldn't see you so i'm here

2:29:04 ↗ ms broyles can you hear me

2:29:07 ↗ okay can you see me now

2:29:10 ↗ no but we can hear you the head care

2:29:13 ↗ okay

2:29:16 ↗ i'm here i think

2:29:22 ↗ now we see you please okay thank you

2:29:25 ↗ thank you

2:29:26 ↗ um my name is karen broyles

2:29:29 ↗ i am a retired educator

2:29:33 ↗ i have spent my career in eastern

2:29:36 ↗ washington

2:29:38 ↗ i've always supported school levies

2:29:41 ↗ i'm also a taxpayer

2:29:43 ↗ and i am interested in seeing

2:29:46 ↗ the largest number of students receiving

2:29:49 ↗ the most educational value from the

2:29:51 ↗ money spent

2:29:53 ↗ and i have real concerns about this

2:29:55 ↗ project in looking at it in that light

2:29:59 ↗ people

2:30:00 ↗ more eloquently and with more attention

2:30:02 ↗ to detail have addressed

2:30:04 ↗ a lot of aspects of this including

2:30:08 ↗ the stadium including

2:30:10 ↗ the cost of

2:30:13 ↗ runoff from from storm

2:30:16 ↗ storm water runoff

2:30:18 ↗ and the cost to the environment

2:30:20 ↗ into the fisheries

2:30:23 ↗ i'm curious about a few things one of

2:30:26 ↗ them is um

2:30:28 ↗ how many students will be using

2:30:31 ↗ the outdoor athletic facilities i mean i

2:30:34 ↗ really have to wonder about that i i

2:30:36 ↗ know how many kids are on a football

2:30:38 ↗ team

2:30:39 ↗ but how many students actually will use

2:30:41 ↗ that stadium

2:30:43 ↗ i'm aware that other school districts

2:30:47 ↗ have two or more schools using the same

2:30:50 ↗ stadium other districts in the kinko

2:30:52 ↗ league

2:30:54 ↗ double up or

2:30:55 ↗ you know have multiple schools using the

2:30:57 ↗ same stadium i'm wondering whether that

2:31:00 ↗ is real not really necessary

2:31:03 ↗ i'm um i know i would defer to a lot of

2:31:06 ↗ other people that spoke about that but

2:31:08 ↗ that's one of the things i wonder in

2:31:10 ↗ terms of cost

2:31:12 ↗ um

2:31:15 ↗ i'm also

2:31:16 ↗ they're again

2:31:17 ↗ concerned about the runoff and the

2:31:20 ↗ environmental impact to i live at

2:31:22 ↗ providence point i live right next to

2:31:25 ↗ the grounds that's right across the

2:31:27 ↗ street from where i live

2:31:29 ↗ i know that it's a

2:31:31 ↗ it's a hill going up there and that the

2:31:34 ↗ water does run downhill and i'm too am

2:31:36 ↗ concerned about slides and other issues

2:31:39 ↗ the storm sewers being overwhelmed

2:31:45 ↗ i am um

2:31:46 ↗ [Music]

2:31:50 ↗ i'm also wondering about

2:31:52 ↗ how this money is being spent in

2:31:54 ↗ relation to other students

2:31:56 ↗ um again back to the cost of the stadium

2:31:59 ↗ and other athletic fields

2:32:02 ↗ i i wonder if that kind of attention and

2:32:04 ↗ money is being spent on

2:32:07 ↗ students who don't participate in sports

2:32:09 ↗ but do participate in performing arts

2:32:13 ↗ and

2:32:14 ↗ computers robotics

2:32:17 ↗ last night it was mentioned that

2:32:20 ↗ it was going to be tough to

2:32:21 ↗ schedule

2:32:23 ↗ tennis tournaments well is it going to

2:32:25 ↗ be tough to schedule other kinds of

2:32:28 ↗ tournaments and

2:32:30 ↗ competitions um that are indoors

2:32:33 ↗ i think there are a lot of issues that

2:32:35 ↗ need to be addressed and need to be

2:32:37 ↗ answered

2:32:38 ↗ in terms of are we getting the best

2:32:41 ↗ educational value

2:32:43 ↗ for our money are we getting the best

2:32:45 ↗ value that impacts the greatest

2:32:48 ↗ students for our money

2:32:52 ↗ ms broyles you've been muted

2:32:55 ↗ your time is up thank you

2:33:02 ↗ okay um

2:33:04 ↗ the next speaker

2:33:06 ↗ is

2:33:07 ↗ a

2:33:08 ↗ call-in

2:33:09 ↗ speaker whose number begins 509-230

2:33:16 ↗ i'm going to unmute you

2:33:18 ↗ if you would introduce yourself and

2:33:21 ↗ begin speaking

2:33:28 ↗ call in

2:33:29 ↗ a participant

2:33:30 ↗ phone number beginning with five zero

2:33:33 ↗ nine

2:33:34 ↗ two three zero

2:33:38 ↗ yes this is betty steiner i spoke

2:33:40 ↗ earlier about making

2:33:43 ↗ thank you

2:33:44 ↗ thank you miss diner

2:33:47 ↗ could you if you're able to lower your

2:33:49 ↗ hand that would be helpful

2:33:51 ↗ thank you

2:33:53 ↗ yeah not a problem if not a problem

2:34:00 ↗ i believe that is

2:34:02 ↗ are there any other persons who would

2:34:04 ↗ like to speak um either raise your hand

2:34:08 ↗ or s

2:34:10 ↗ okay

2:34:12 ↗ we have another um person who would like

2:34:14 ↗ to speak

2:34:26 ↗ i believe this is connie marsh um

2:34:30 ↗ feel free to i've unmuted you feel free

2:34:33 ↗ to turn on your camera and speak when

2:34:34 ↗ you're ready

2:34:38 ↗ hi this is connie marsh and i live up on

2:34:41 ↗ squawk

2:34:43 ↗ mountain

2:34:44 ↗ um

2:34:45 ↗ fascinating conversation

2:34:48 ↗ uh

2:34:49 ↗ but much of it is something that the

2:34:51 ↗ development commission can't do a lot

2:34:54 ↗ with so

2:34:56 ↗ it seems to come down to

2:34:59 ↗ the

2:35:01 ↗ master site plan which oddly in the

2:35:05 ↗ presentation

2:35:06 ↗ is brought in

2:35:08 ↗ after the site development permit but

2:35:10 ↗ the master site plan is the overarching

2:35:13 ↗ plan

2:35:14 ↗ that the site development permit would

2:35:17 ↗ then

2:35:18 ↗ work within

2:35:20 ↗ and so one of the criteria because you

2:35:23 ↗ have a series of criteria for master

2:35:25 ↗ site plans

2:35:27 ↗ is that the proposed project will be

2:35:29 ↗ compatible

2:35:30 ↗ with the land uses in the vicinity of

2:35:34 ↗ the project

2:35:35 ↗ site

2:35:36 ↗ and

2:35:39 ↗ this isn't a conversation about whether

2:35:41 ↗ it's been

2:35:42 ↗ mitigated

2:35:46 ↗ uh

2:35:49 ↗ it isn't detailed it is sort of an

2:35:52 ↗ opinion

2:35:54 ↗ is it compatible

2:35:56 ↗ so

2:35:58 ↗ i

2:35:59 ↗ if i had not had so much experience

2:36:02 ↗ with being around high schools i might

2:36:05 ↗ have more pain with this conversation

2:36:08 ↗ but

2:36:09 ↗ iskwa high school has been a very

2:36:12 ↗ interesting lesson in compatibility

2:36:15 ↗ with traffic and noise

2:36:18 ↗ and being able to contain the students

2:36:20 ↗ in some some sort of semblance of

2:36:24 ↗ of uh

2:36:25 ↗ safety

2:36:26 ↗ so

2:36:28 ↗ in this

2:36:29 ↗ in this

2:36:31 ↗ situation for the development commission

2:36:35 ↗ i think i would ask

2:36:37 ↗ that you go through the

2:36:38 ↗ master site plan criteria before you go

2:36:42 ↗ through

2:36:44 ↗ the

2:36:45 ↗ site development permit

2:36:48 ↗ and be able to ask and answer those

2:36:51 ↗ questions

2:36:53 ↗ and then move

2:36:54 ↗ forward

2:36:56 ↗ i don't know what you're going to do

2:36:58 ↗ with the details of the environmentally

2:37:01 ↗ [Music]

2:37:04 ↗ not mitigated

2:37:06 ↗ questions

2:37:07 ↗ uh

2:37:08 ↗ because i don't know that you have perv

2:37:11 ↗ over that

2:37:12 ↗ so

2:37:13 ↗ again i'm going to repeat one more time

2:37:15 ↗ if you would address the master site

2:37:17 ↗ plan criteria first and ask and answer

2:37:20 ↗ those

2:37:22 ↗ questions that might be the most helpful

2:37:24 ↗ pathway thank you

2:37:39 ↗ any

2:37:40 ↗ other speakers

2:37:43 ↗ please raise your hand

2:37:56 ↗ i am not seeing any additional speakers

2:38:00 ↗ [Music]

2:38:06 ↗ great thank you lucy if we have no

2:38:07 ↗ additional speakers

2:38:09 ↗ um

2:38:11 ↗ i think we the next part of the of the

2:38:15 ↗ public hearing process is

2:38:16 ↗ allowing for rebuttals from the

2:38:19 ↗ applicant um and also from the staff but

2:38:22 ↗ given the limited time we have left this

2:38:24 ↗ evening

2:38:26 ↗ we won't have time to do that

2:38:28 ↗ so when we uh reconvene on the 16th we

2:38:32 ↗ will move forward with

2:38:34 ↗ the opportunities for rebuttals from the

2:38:37 ↗ from the applicant from the school

2:38:38 ↗ district team

2:38:40 ↗ and from the staff and it will also

2:38:42 ↗ provide another opportunity for the

2:38:44 ↗ commissioners uh to ask questions of the

2:38:46 ↗ applicant um before we begin our

2:38:49 ↗ deliberations

2:38:50 ↗ uh as far as the process is concerned so

2:38:53 ↗ um but before we move to uh

2:38:56 ↗ adjourn this evening i just want to

2:38:59 ↗ thank all of the people who took time

2:39:01 ↗ out of your evening to participate in

2:39:04 ↗ the

2:39:05 ↗ uh in this public hearing and provide

2:39:07 ↗ public comment i

2:39:09 ↗ am so impressed with how prepared

2:39:12 ↗ everybody has been um how

2:39:15 ↗ well you essentially um made your points

2:39:18 ↗ and giving the commission um obviously a

2:39:20 ↗ lot more to think about i also want to

2:39:23 ↗ thank a lot of you for your written

2:39:26 ↗ comments um some of the names were very

2:39:27 ↗ familiar uh this evening so thank you

2:39:30 ↗ for that um again this is

2:39:33 ↗ this is how the process works it is

2:39:35 ↗ a public engagement process it is very

2:39:38 ↗ structured as

2:39:40 ↗ i think we've all experienced

2:39:42 ↗ but we are paying attention to the

2:39:44 ↗ comments that we're receiving both uh in

2:39:47 ↗ the

2:39:48 ↗ public comment period as well as what

2:39:50 ↗ you provided us uh in documents in

2:39:52 ↗ comment

2:39:54 ↗ so

2:39:55 ↗ um

2:39:56 ↗ is there any before we um adjourn lucy

2:39:59 ↗ is there any

2:40:00 ↗ uh additional business um for the

2:40:03 ↗ commission this evening

2:40:05 ↗ no um i would just point out to the

2:40:08 ↗ public

2:40:10 ↗ we were able to include the links for

2:40:13 ↗ last night's and tonight's meeting

2:40:17 ↗ in the public notice

2:40:19 ↗ for the march 16th meeting which will

2:40:22 ↗ begin at 7 pm

2:40:25 ↗ on our website either from the city's

2:40:28 ↗ calendar

2:40:29 ↗ or looking at the agenda for the meeting

2:40:32 ↗ on the development commissions page

2:40:36 ↗ there will be

2:40:37 ↗ links uh that will allow you to enter

2:40:40 ↗ the meeting

2:40:41 ↗ if there's any questions feel free to

2:40:42 ↗ contact me

2:40:44 ↗ you all seem to know my address

2:40:47 ↗ so uh but those two locations the city

2:40:51 ↗ calendar

2:40:52 ↗ and the development commission's web

2:40:54 ↗ page um the agenda for the uh the march

2:40:57 ↗ 17th meeting those are the two best

2:41:00 ↗ places to find the link to

2:41:03 ↗ that future meeting

2:41:06 ↗ great thanks lucy for that information

2:41:08 ↗ um so what again uh what we will do on

2:41:12 ↗ the on the

2:41:14 ↗ wednesday of march 16th meeting is it

2:41:17 ↗ will be the opportunity we won't be

2:41:18 ↗ taking additional public comment we were

2:41:20 ↗ closing the public comment period

2:41:22 ↗ this evening but moving on to the next

2:41:24 ↗ step which is the rebuttals and then

2:41:26 ↗ uh questions from commission members and

2:41:28 ↗ then we move to deliberation

2:41:31 ↗ uh on the information that we've

2:41:32 ↗ received so that is those are the next

2:41:34 ↗ steps so

2:41:36 ↗ any questions from commission members or

2:41:38 ↗ any additional business for the

2:41:40 ↗ commission tonight

2:41:44 ↗ uh hearing none then i will declare the

2:41:47 ↗ meeting adjourned at 9 42. have a good

2:41:50 ↗ evening everyone and thanks again to all

2:41:52 ↗ the public who participated

2:42:22 ↗ you

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Attendance

Council / Members (8)

Brennan

Vice-Chair Price

Commissioners Dillon

Ikeda (Alternate)

Morgan (Alternate)

Sanford

Shore

Sowa Absence: Vice Chair Price (Excused)

Staff (3)

Lucy Sloman, Current Planning Manager Chair Brennan stated that Commissioners Ikeda

Morgan would serve as regular Commission members at the meeting due to the resignation of one Commissioner

the recusal of another