Planning Policy Commission · Thursday, May 8, 2014 · City Council Digest

2. COMMITTEE MEMBERS

Member Roster

packet pp.3

Previously discussed: Planning Policy Commission · Nov 21, 2013

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Staff report:

Planning Policy Commission About Contacts Created in 1983, this commission serves as a policy advisory body to the Mayor and provides guidance and direction for Issaquah’s Staff Liaison future growth through continued review and improvement to the Trish Heinonen, Planning City’s Comprehensive Land Use Plan and related land use Manager documents. Email

3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Meeting Minutes for February 13, 2014 and April 24, 2014

packet pp.4–12

Previously discussed: Planning Policy Commission · Nov 21, 2013 Planning Policy Commission · Feb 13, 2014

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Staff report:

CITY OF ISSAQUAH PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION MINUTES

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Election of Chair and Vice Chair

Trish Heinonen, Staff Liaison · packet pp.23

Topics: Elections

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0:14 ↗ good evening the planning policy

0:17 ↗ Commission meeting for Thursday May 8th

0:19 ↗ will come to

0:20 ↗ order first item of business is to

0:23 ↗ welcome new members and

0:25 ↗ alternates and since we all haven't had

0:28 ↗ a chance to meet maybe the new guys

0:30 ↗ could just pull the microphone on cuz

0:32 ↗ you'll be on TV all the throngs at home

0:35 ↗ we have something for that oh we have

0:37 ↗ something for that sorry once again the

0:40 ↗ CH is left in the dark because he's

0:43 ↗ waiting for the throngs at home to come

0:46 ↗ in we got seats anyway should we do

0:49 ↗ approval of minutes first then or you

0:50 ↗ want to do your thing first my thing

0:53 ↗ well who's doing whatever you're doing

0:55 ↗ um I can start it because as Carl so

0:59 ↗ well Appley said not all of us know each

1:02 ↗ other so we're going to do a little game

1:03 ↗ to help us remember names okay I know it

1:06 ↗ might be a little silly but it's a good

1:08 ↗ thing trust me my name is Trish it

1:11 ↗ rhymes with fish and my favorite thing

1:14 ↗ about issaqua is the

1:17 ↗ people now the person next to me is

1:19 ↗ going to say her name and she's going to

1:21 ↗ say my name and what it rhymes with and

1:23 ↗ she's going to tell me what her favorite

1:25 ↗ thing about issaqua is I don't know if

1:27 ↗ Susan has to do this but she's giving me

1:29 ↗ the look no Susan does not have to do

1:31 ↗ this and then we'll go to Ry Ry will say

1:34 ↗ This Woman's name what it rhymes with

1:36 ↗ your name what it rhymes with and what's

1:39 ↗ your favorite thing we're going to go so

1:40 ↗ you only have to remember the names of

1:41 ↗ the people next to you but hopefully

1:43 ↗ it'll give you um some memory M muscle

1:47 ↗ memory so that you if you see us in the

1:49 ↗ grocery store next week you'll say

1:51 ↗ there's Trish and it rhymes with fish

1:53 ↗ and her favorite thing is isqua

1:55 ↗ people okay are we ready and then Carl

1:59 ↗ if you're really up for it then you have

2:00 ↗ to do everybody's name because you're

2:02 ↗ the chair how about that one we'll see

2:06 ↗ how it goes I'm Trisha it rhymes with

2:08 ↗ fish and my favorite thing about issaqua

2:10 ↗ is the

2:11 ↗ people you are Trish it rhymes with fish

2:15 ↗ um your favorite thing is the people and

2:18 ↗ oh that I don't have to say that my name

2:19 ↗ is Kristen it rhymes with

2:22 ↗ piston and my favorite thing about isqua

2:25 ↗ is the sunset exit when you drive up and

2:27 ↗ you just see the the Alps Tiger Mountain

2:29 ↗ right there it's really

2:31 ↗ cool very good great my

2:35 ↗ name

2:38 ↗ your you got to put your microphone on R

2:41 ↗ microphone over with the Red Dot you see

2:44 ↗ there you go okay my name is Ray reminds

2:47 ↗ with play your name

2:49 ↗ is Kristen

2:51 ↗ Kristen and your favorite thing is a

2:54 ↗ sunset is sunset uh exit and what you

2:57 ↗ see yes

3:00 ↗ good see how this is working out all

3:01 ↗ right next in English either way my name

3:06 ↗ is Brian rhymes with Lion good and who's

3:10 ↗ my right is Reay who could be called Jay

3:15 ↗ good you don't have and your favorite

3:17 ↗ thing Brian is pardon me your favorite

3:20 ↗ thing is

3:21 ↗ golf okay that work about it's a clock

3:26 ↗ good luck all right Brian rhymes with

3:28 ↗ Lion he loves golf

3:30 ↗ and my name is Bill rhymes with

3:34 ↗ pill um and uh I guess I probably should

3:38 ↗ um and uh my favorite thing is uh

3:40 ↗ walking and riding my bike around town

3:42 ↗ because I just live right here on the

3:44 ↗ flat

3:46 ↗ part my name is Mike I guess I'll say

3:50 ↗ trike of trike this is Bill the pill

3:54 ↗ part

3:56 ↗ is rhymes with pill um I think my

4:00 ↗ favorite thing about isqua is the

4:05 ↗ community my name is Laural it rhymes

4:10 ↗ with

4:13 ↗ snor this say Mike it rhymes with shke

4:16 ↗ um my favorite thing about isquat

4:18 ↗ [Music]

4:22 ↗ is the

4:24 ↗ preschool nice yes I like the preschool

4:27 ↗ system see my name is Susan I've been

4:29 ↗ trying to think of something that rhymes

4:31 ↗ with Su can't get there so let's see my

4:34 ↗ name is Sue it rhymes with Fu uh this is

4:38 ↗ Flora Flora Laurel Laurel rhymes with

4:42 ↗ snor yeah better and I love salmon

4:47 ↗ days my name is Chantel which ryes

4:51 ↗ with

4:57 ↗ dental I don't know did you think of RH

5:00 ↗ shant I think we were having troubles

5:01 ↗ with

5:02 ↗ that it's a good one though it's like

5:05 ↗ orange what rhymes with orange well I'm

5:10 ↗ try um so it rhymes with

5:15 ↗ something um and my favorite thing in

5:18 ↗ isaka is walking around it's walking

5:25 ↗ walking Shantel that rhymes with

5:30 ↗ something uh walking around

5:33 ↗ Isa uh my name is

5:35 ↗ Joan which

5:37 ↗ uh bone or moan I don't you take one of

5:40 ↗ those and the um the favorite thing at

5:44 ↗ ISA is the fact that it's a big city but

5:46 ↗ feels like a small City and it's very

5:49 ↗ unique in this uh Community this

5:56 ↗ area Joan Chantel SU Laurel Mike Bill

6:03 ↗ Brian Ray

6:05 ↗ [Applause]

6:07 ↗ [Laughter]

6:11 ↗ Kristen there you go and uh the only

6:14 ↗ thing I can think of rhymes with Carl is

6:17 ↗ Marl and I don't remember what that even

6:19 ↗ means I think it's like a colors Marl

6:22 ↗ colors I don't

6:24 ↗ remember but we could play Banana mana

6:27 ↗ mopan and be pan mop pany whatever that

6:30 ↗ song is we're gonna do that for the

6:31 ↗ public hearing are we okay no we're

6:33 ↗ not I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding

6:37 ↗ and your favorite thing car oh just

6:39 ↗ living in Israel

6:41 ↗ okay well on that note this is great do

6:44 ↗ you want to do the minutes now

6:46 ↗ chairperson I don't know am I supposed

6:48 ↗ to do okay it would be fine we'll now do

6:51 ↗ the minutes the first order of been is

6:54 ↗ the minutes from February

6:57 ↗ 13th was quite a while that had passed

7:00 ↗ before we'd had a meeting and the last

7:02 ↗ time we went to approve the minutes

7:05 ↗ there weren't enough of us here to

7:07 ↗ approve them the best of us yeah that's

7:11 ↗ why we had to get all the numbers so are

7:13 ↗ there any additions or corrections to

7:15 ↗ the

7:17 ↗ minutes hearing none is there motion to

7:21 ↗ accept the

7:22 ↗ minutes I second moved and second it all

7:25 ↗ in favor I opposed

7:30 ↗ hearing none minutes for the for the

7:33 ↗ what

7:35 ↗ February ail 13th are approved next item

7:39 ↗ of business are minutes from April

7:42 ↗ 24th when we didn't have a quorum and

7:44 ↗ couldn't approve the

7:46 ↗ minutes only there any additions or

7:49 ↗ corrections to those minutes

7:52 ↗ no I have a question and that um

7:56 ↗ according to the

7:58 ↗ minutes you were going to prepare a

8:00 ↗ letter for my signature yes I did did

8:03 ↗ you sign it yes you did okay and I did

8:07 ↗ sign it you did you loved it I thought

8:09 ↗ it was wonderful is that why I gave you

8:11 ↗ that check with my signature you never

8:14 ↗ given me a check oh that's a good that's

8:16 ↗ a good thing CU she has my electronic

8:18 ↗ signature I've got your signature but I

8:19 ↗ don't have a okay that's the only

8:21 ↗ question I got it well they might leave

8:23 ↗ we got to be real

8:24 ↗ careful they can't leave the public is

8:27 ↗ running in as we speak

8:29 ↗ um are there any no additions or

8:31 ↗ Corrections there's a motion to accept

8:34 ↗ the

8:35 ↗ minutes I'll

8:38 ↗ second all in favor I opposed hearing

8:43 ↗ none minutes for the

8:45 ↗ 24th are approved okay now we can move

8:49 ↗ in to the item of business for tonight

8:52 ↗ Trish the floor is yours and because

8:54 ↗ this is um such a big update that we're

8:58 ↗ embarking on with um the seasoned

9:01 ↗ members and the new members um The

9:04 ↗ Association of Washington cities has

9:06 ↗ done several videos to help communities

9:09 ↗ that are working on their growth

9:10 ↗ management act uh comprehensive plan

9:13 ↗ periodic updates it's a long thing to

9:15 ↗ say and so two of them sounded when I

9:17 ↗ reviewed them all two of them they're

9:19 ↗ real short two of them seem like they'd

9:21 ↗ be appropriate for you all to hear from

9:23 ↗ other folks from other jurisdictions on

9:25 ↗ how they're approaching their periodic

9:27 ↗ update some things to think about um so

9:30 ↗ that you don't just hear Kristen and I

9:32 ↗ all the time that you hear some other

9:34 ↗ voices from other communities and what's

9:36 ↗ worked for them and how they're sort of

9:38 ↗ thinking about things um because you'll

9:40 ↗ probably hear from Kristen and I and

9:41 ↗ then Jason later on a lot so I thought

9:44 ↗ this might be a good way to just sort of

9:46 ↗ ease into it with some wisdoms from some

9:48 ↗ other areas and so there's just two I

9:50 ↗ think they're both maybe six minutes

9:52 ↗ long so and there's cookies here if you

9:54 ↗ need a treat before you watch a video um

9:56 ↗ feel free to come up anytime and and get

9:58 ↗ some

10:00 ↗ um the first

10:02 ↗ one

10:09 ↗ is comprehensive

10:14 ↗ [Music]

10:20 ↗ [Music]

10:24 ↗ no comprehensive plans are all about

10:27 ↗ community and each of your cities has

10:29 ↗ its own character its own Vision its own

10:33 ↗ Direction ADC developed a series of

10:35 ↗ short videos to help you prepare your

10:37 ↗ GMA update each video contains a few key

10:41 ↗ Concepts and conversation St louder that

10:44 ↗ you can relate to your community this

10:47 ↗ segment looks at why your GMA plan

10:50 ↗ matters comp plan process is really an

10:53 ↗ opportunity for the community to come

10:56 ↗ together uh on their vision

10:59 ↗ 1995 wasn't that long ago and 2035 isn't

11:04 ↗ that far

11:05 ↗ away but as a city council member I

11:09 ↗ wasn't here in 1995 and I probably won't

11:13 ↗ be here in

11:14 ↗ 2035 so my job is to be a caretaker and

11:17 ↗ the job of the council is member at this

11:20 ↗ point is to really understand and hear

11:23 ↗ the voices of those who were here in

11:26 ↗ 1995 and try to hear the voices of those

11:29 ↗ who will be here in 2035 I'm a caretaker

11:33 ↗ and I think that's the job of the

11:34 ↗ council and I think as we look forward

11:36 ↗ this is about vision for both the

11:39 ↗ history and the future well I think land

11:42 ↗ use is the driver of so many things that

11:45 ↗ we do in local government so many things

11:47 ↗ that we care about so many things that

11:49 ↗ are important to us um it drives so many

11:52 ↗ issues in our community things from

11:54 ↗ population to Quality of Life uh Public

11:58 ↗ Safety

11:59 ↗ uh additional Park amenities there's not

12:02 ↗ anything that I can think of that

12:04 ↗ doesn't touch land use or it's not

12:06 ↗ influenced directly by land use

12:08 ↗ communities have U the ability to make

12:11 ↗ choices and that's what the growth

12:12 ↗ management Act and the planning process

12:14 ↗ is all about is about making choices we

12:16 ↗ can grow and we can change the future of

12:19 ↗ our city um by choice and design or by

12:22 ↗ chance and I think most of us uh want to

12:25 ↗ create that Destiny for our own

12:27 ↗ communities and take the route of choice

12:30 ↗ and design and I think in mool that

12:32 ↗ there's nothing that we've done that has

12:34 ↗ been revolutionary but what we have done

12:38 ↗ is more from a comprehensive nature I

12:40 ↗ haven't found a community um yet that

12:42 ↗ has done so much holistically in terms

12:44 ↗ of its planning process related to its

12:46 ↗ Economic Development efforts to

12:47 ↗ revitalize a downtown and so all the

12:49 ↗ tools that are available to us under the

12:51 ↗ growth management act we have utilized

12:54 ↗ and it's been very effective for us in

12:56 ↗ terms of really working through the

12:58 ↗ recession and now generating post

13:00 ↗ recession private investment in our

13:02 ↗ downtown there's nothing preventing a

13:04 ↗ community that wants to use the growth

13:07 ↗ management planning act as a springboard

13:09 ↗ or a framework um if you will to to

13:12 ↗ create a new neighborhood plan to create

13:14 ↗ a new vision or direction for its

13:16 ↗ community and the growth management act

13:18 ↗ has has simply provided that for us I

13:20 ↗ would say that um as communities look

13:23 ↗ towards uh uh reimagining their own

13:26 ↗ communities as part of the the growth

13:27 ↗ management act process know that that

13:30 ↗ change is possible that it's really the

13:32 ↗ responsibility I believe the privilege

13:35 ↗ of local government to inspire their

13:37 ↗ communities that you can create the

13:40 ↗ future that your citizens want it's an

13:43 ↗ opportunity for us to uh engage in a

13:46 ↗ conversation of why the growth

13:48 ↗ management Act is important why does it

13:51 ↗ matter and I think that that is probably

13:54 ↗ one of the most important parts of the

13:58 ↗ of the comprehensive Plan update is to

14:00 ↗ talk about why is this important not

14:04 ↗ just for our city but for the region why

14:08 ↗ does it matter that we plan for growth

14:11 ↗ and I think that it is really important

14:14 ↗ now all these many years after the

14:16 ↗ growth management Act was passed to

14:19 ↗ remember why we do this we want to

14:23 ↗ welcome growth not stop growth not allow

14:27 ↗ growth not tolerate

14:29 ↗ but welcome it we know it's coming so

14:32 ↗ how do we make the the best possible

14:35 ↗ town that we can the magnitude of growth

14:39 ↗ that we will experience uh in Washington

14:42 ↗ State uh is very significant in excess

14:45 ↗ of a million people probably in the next

14:47 ↗ 20 years

14:49 ↗ um the question in accommodating that uh

14:53 ↗ is one I suppose not to get frightened

14:55 ↗ by the numbers so much as it is to focus

14:57 ↗ on what the numbers represent

14:59 ↗ and how we will accommodate that growth

15:02 ↗ so if we look 20 years into the future

15:04 ↗ and and think about these numbers we

15:07 ↗ also need to think about what the job

15:08 ↗ base might look like how we will move

15:10 ↗ people and goods within the community

15:13 ↗ how we'll provide the services we need

15:15 ↗ and to be able to have a uh hopefully a

15:18 ↗ thoughtful honest and Rich discussion

15:20 ↗ with our community about what this

15:22 ↗ represents and how we will deal with

15:25 ↗ that question uh the reality is that

15:27 ↗ these people are they're not some

15:30 ↗ abstraction in terms of numbers uh

15:33 ↗ they're us they're our kids they're

15:36 ↗ families that are here because we have

15:39 ↗ a viable economy um sometimes it's

15:43 ↗ important to think about the flip side

15:45 ↗ if we didn't have a viable economy and

15:47 ↗ this was a ghost town well we wouldn't

15:49 ↗ have those problems so these are the

15:50 ↗ kind of problems we want to have the

15:52 ↗ question is what kind of Community are

15:56 ↗ we going to build to accommodate uh the

15:59 ↗ this growth and what kind of job base

16:02 ↗ and what kind of Lifestyle do we want to

16:04 ↗ have those are really the kind of sort

16:06 ↗ of central gut questions that uh ought

16:09 ↗ to drive our discussion and ultimately

16:11 ↗ our decision in the

16:26 ↗ comp two things about that little little

16:30 ↗ vignette that I really liked is I like

16:33 ↗ that I thought that I liked it enough

16:35 ↗ that I wanted to share it is that he

16:37 ↗ talked about being a caretaker because

16:39 ↗ so many of us I guess I was here back in

16:42 ↗ 95 but you know the I don't think I'm

16:45 ↗ going to be here in 2031 I might I guess

16:48 ↗ but maybe not but the whole idea that

16:50 ↗ that we have to think out of the future

16:52 ↗ for the community and some people have

16:54 ↗ trouble with that they they're planning

16:55 ↗ their next vacation this year maybe a

16:59 ↗ family get together but the thought of

17:01 ↗ five years 10 years is just really hard

17:04 ↗ for people to wrap their their heads

17:05 ↗ around and so if we think of it as a

17:07 ↗ caretaker that we're getting the

17:09 ↗ community prepared to take steps into

17:11 ↗ what it's going to be in the future I

17:13 ↗ thought that was a good way to think

17:14 ↗ about it the other piece that I really

17:17 ↗ liked um is they're talking about the

17:19 ↗ growth that's coming and the good news

17:21 ↗ for this group is that uh when we did

17:23 ↗ the central isqua plan that we just

17:25 ↗ adopted finally last year after many

17:27 ↗ many years of of in-depth public

17:30 ↗ involvement we already figured out where

17:33 ↗ the next 20 years of growth is going and

17:36 ↗ so we don't have to worry about the

17:37 ↗ growth targets for this update which is

17:40 ↗ really great because sometimes that's

17:41 ↗ the hardest part is where do you put all

17:44 ↗ the new families and the people that are

17:46 ↗ working at the jobs where do you put all

17:48 ↗ those and we've the we as a group and

17:50 ↗ Council adopted that already so that's a

17:53 ↗ good thing to not have to worry about

17:54 ↗ now we just have to worry about making

17:56 ↗ it the best place that we can you know

17:58 ↗ when they all show up in the next 20

18:00 ↗ years are there questions about this one

18:02 ↗ before I start the next little short

18:05 ↗ one okay and the reason I picked the

18:09 ↗ next one I guess is kind of a selfish um

18:13 ↗ reason um when we adopted our

18:16 ↗ comprehensive plan in 95 long time ago

18:19 ↗ it seems but yes just yesterday we were

18:21 ↗ one of the few communities that um

18:23 ↗ adopted um elements that were not

18:26 ↗ required we were just overachievers even

18:29 ↗ back then and uh there was a little quiz

18:31 ↗ in your packet on if you could tell

18:33 ↗ which ones those were uh we still have a

18:35 ↗ couple that aren't required and that

18:37 ↗ we're very proud of and so this uh

18:39 ↗ little video they talked about that

18:42 ↗ communities get to choose which elements

18:43 ↗ they put in and I just felt pretty proud

18:45 ↗ that we chose right from the beginning

18:47 ↗ that Parks were very important to us

18:49 ↗ Human Services were very important to us

18:51 ↗ and cultural um amenities were very

18:53 ↗ important to issaqua and so we were kind

18:55 ↗ of the Front Runners and economic

18:57 ↗ development actually wasn't required

18:58 ↗ back then and so we were we were way out

19:00 ↗ in front even back in 1995 um this also

19:04 ↗ um one of the speakers is from our

19:06 ↗ sister city samamish talking about how

19:08 ↗ they're working on their update and they

19:10 ↗ have some neat ideas and um I just

19:12 ↗ thought this was a really good one for

19:13 ↗ us to see as well comprehensive plans

19:17 ↗ are all about community and each of your

19:19 ↗ cities has its own character its own

19:22 ↗ Vision its own Direction AWC developed a

19:26 ↗ series of short videos to help you

19:28 ↗ prepare your GMA update each video

19:31 ↗ contains a few key Concepts and

19:33 ↗ conversation starters that you can

19:35 ↗ relate to your community this segment

19:38 ↗ looks at your GMA choices what's

19:41 ↗ mandatory what's optional vision

19:44 ↗ statements uh ought to be at pretty

19:47 ↗ broad pretty high level um but they

19:49 ↗ should emphasize uh the aspirations of

19:52 ↗ your community and they should reflect

19:54 ↗ uh what you want to see in that

19:55 ↗ Community um if that plan is in fact

19:58 ↗ implemented

19:59 ↗ Faithfully uh by the public sector and

20:01 ↗ by the private sector over the course of

20:03 ↗ time that Vision should be uh something

20:06 ↗ that you want to see as an end product

20:08 ↗ uh that 20 years from now uh so uh I

20:11 ↗ think we'll we'll see those kinds of new

20:13 ↗ priorities like Economic Development

20:16 ↗ like sustainability um and one that I'm

20:18 ↗ very excited about is the idea of

20:20 ↗ Community Health uh healthy Community um

20:23 ↗ is something that's very important to uh

20:26 ↗ just about everybody who lives in

20:27 ↗ Washington State uh we're finding out

20:29 ↗ more and more about how the built

20:31 ↗ environment relates to issues of Public

20:33 ↗ Health and individual health I'm looking

20:35 ↗ forward to how our comprehensive plan

20:37 ↗ might in fact be a venue for us to talk

20:40 ↗ about those issues uh more fully and uh

20:43 ↗ find some new policy goals and hopefully

20:44 ↗ some new implementation mechanisms to

20:46 ↗ see our community even healthier 20

20:49 ↗ years from now sustainability is a very

20:51 ↗ important subject in in samamish we

20:53 ↗ spent about two years crafting a

20:55 ↗ sustainability strategy and I think it

20:56 ↗ will form a nice basis for for our

20:58 ↗ upcoming comprehensive plan um process

21:02 ↗ that will complete by mid

21:04 ↗ 2015 uh that element reflects a lot of

21:07 ↗ local priorities in fact we were lucky

21:09 ↗ enough to get a very strong level of

21:11 ↗ public involvement in crafting our

21:13 ↗ sustainability element we had over 900

21:16 ↗ uh individuals from samamish contribute

21:18 ↗ to our public involvement process for

21:20 ↗ our sustainability strategy um so that's

21:23 ↗ a good reflection of local priorities I

21:26 ↗ think each City will have different

21:28 ↗ local priorities of Interest some may

21:31 ↗ emphasize energy conservation Others May

21:33 ↗ uh focus on climate change or solid

21:35 ↗ waste reduction uh in samamish uh a lot

21:38 ↗ of ours focused on habitat protection uh

21:41 ↗ water quality issues and energy

21:43 ↗ conservation well in some ways like the

21:45 ↗ sustainability strategy that's already

21:47 ↗ been completed uh we are now working on

21:49 ↗ an economic development strategy and and

21:51 ↗ I think we will plan to incorporate uh

21:53 ↗ that into our comprehensive Plan update

21:56 ↗ it'll be interesting to see how uh the

21:58 ↗ policies and priorities that are coming

22:00 ↗ out of that strategy uh will be

22:03 ↗ reflected in the comprehensive plan

22:04 ↗ again it may be one of those overarching

22:06 ↗ themes um uh or we may choose to make it

22:09 ↗ a separate Standalone element we'll have

22:11 ↗ to see what the best best fit is I think

22:14 ↗ that's one of the nice things about the

22:15 ↗ growth management Act is it gives you

22:16 ↗ some local flexibility as to how you

22:18 ↗ would actually manifest those local

22:21 ↗ priorities in your comprehensive plan

22:24 ↗ you can both have things that are

22:25 ↗ crosscutting themes that would reflect

22:27 ↗ several elements for example reflecting

22:30 ↗ land use housing and um transportation

22:33 ↗ for example um or you can have

22:35 ↗ Standalone elements that really speak

22:37 ↗ for themselves the planning fabric of

22:40 ↗ every Community is made up of a lot of

22:42 ↗ threads there's the comprehensive plan

22:44 ↗ and that gets most of the attention uh

22:47 ↗ and certainly that's what the is focused

22:49 ↗ that is the focus of the growth

22:50 ↗ management act but really when we look

22:53 ↗ at it uh below the surface there are a

22:55 ↗ number of other plans in most

22:57 ↗ communities uh we can call them plans

22:59 ↗ and systems or functional plans but

23:02 ↗ examples include uh Water Systems plans

23:06 ↗ uh Parks plans Transportation plan

23:08 ↗ elements uh and there are others uh and

23:11 ↗ each Community is a little different as

23:12 ↗ to how this work gets organized uh but

23:15 ↗ the importance is that uh this work

23:18 ↗ needs to be brought together and the

23:21 ↗ under the comp plan and the comp plan

23:23 ↗ really provides an opportunity to

23:25 ↗ revisit all of this work first of all

23:27 ↗ there's a legal o ation that it has to

23:29 ↗ be consistent so that is isn't and

23:32 ↗ shouldn't be taken lightly but the

23:34 ↗ reality is that this is an opportunity

23:36 ↗ to look at all of this as an integrated

23:40 ↗ system uh and the key to doing that is

23:44 ↗ to make sure that the staff actually has

23:46 ↗ the opportunity uh under the framework

23:49 ↗ of the comp plan to make sure that these

23:51 ↗ pieces work Parks plan needs to work

23:53 ↗ with with the comp plan Transportation

23:55 ↗ plan needs to work with the comp plan

23:57 ↗ water sewer and Utility Systems need to

24:00 ↗ all work with a comp plan the reality is

24:02 ↗ that the these elements were probably

24:05 ↗ developed at different times uh and

24:08 ↗ probably serve multiple purposes so this

24:11 ↗ is this is really a wonderful

24:13 ↗ opportunity to bring them together so

24:15 ↗ there is an integration but it's a

24:17 ↗ different piece and it's a different

24:19 ↗ level of understanding at each of those

24:21 ↗ levels at the public level at the

24:23 ↗ Planning Commission level and at the

24:24 ↗ city council level another option for

24:27 ↗ comprehensive plan or for planning in

24:29 ↗ general related to Economic Development

24:31 ↗ or other particular subjects is using

24:34 ↗ sub area plans so sub area plans of

24:37 ↗ course under the growth management act

24:38 ↗ are part of your comprehensive plan even

24:40 ↗ though they happen under a separate

24:41 ↗ process they're related um and part of

24:44 ↗ the plan but they may have their own

24:46 ↗ process uh and look at specific areas

24:49 ↗ within a city there are also of course

24:52 ↗ functional plans that can be done there

24:54 ↗ can be um other kinds of

24:57 ↗ strategies that a city undertakes for

24:59 ↗ example maybe you want um an economic

25:02 ↗ strategy that's that's at a more

25:04 ↗ detailed level than what you would put

25:06 ↗ in a comprehensive plan that's possible

25:08 ↗ too you could decide later whether you

25:10 ↗ want that to be an appendix in your

25:12 ↗ comprehensive plan or something that's

25:13 ↗ simply a standalone but obviously

25:15 ↗ coordinated and consistent with your

25:17 ↗ ultimate uh comprehensive plan whatever

25:20 ↗ you do whether it's improvements and

25:22 ↗ updates to your plan your regulations

25:25 ↗ your

25:26 ↗ processes celebrate the success that you

25:29 ↗ have revisit

25:31 ↗ it publicize it and

25:42 ↗ celebrate

25:44 ↗ okay and that ends the video portion of

25:50 ↗ our of our evening um the one piece I

25:53 ↗ would um reflect back um Cameron from

25:56 ↗ samamish was talking about the vision

25:59 ↗ and the vision in the plan and what we

26:02 ↗ shared with you in the handout um was

26:04 ↗ the vision of the land use element each

26:07 ↗ of the elements of the comprehensive

26:08 ↗ plan has a vision for that specific

26:11 ↗ element the plan itself doesn't have a

26:14 ↗ vision for the whole city the city

26:16 ↗ council has a vision for the city um

26:19 ↗ that they adopted in 1990 and um they

26:22 ↗ talk about updating it every now and

26:24 ↗ again um but that's different than the

26:27 ↗ actual land

26:29 ↗ element Vision the transportation

26:30 ↗ element vision and so um I was requested

26:33 ↗ to share the City Vision with you before

26:35 ↗ tonight but I was worried that it would

26:37 ↗ be it might be confusing because there

26:39 ↗ you know there might be too many visions

26:42 ↗ and and tonight we just wanted to focus

26:44 ↗ on the land use Vis Vision to get you

26:46 ↗ acquainted with the land use element um

26:48 ↗ the city's vision is pretty neat I read

26:50 ↗ I reread it again tonight with the

26:52 ↗ guiding principles and all that and

26:54 ↗ they're all pretty valid still I mean it

26:56 ↗ it's um it was good stuff back in 1990

26:59 ↗ and it still resonates um at least with

27:02 ↗ where I think the community is um and so

27:05 ↗ I wanted to to let you know that if

27:07 ↗ folks if you all start talking about the

27:09 ↗ vision make sure that that you're what

27:11 ↗ you that you know what you're focusing

27:13 ↗ on and that you're clear on um which

27:16 ↗ piece fits into where and so with that

27:18 ↗ um are there any questions before we

27:20 ↗ actually launch into um what we hope to

27:23 ↗ get through

27:24 ↗ tonight okay I'm glad no one's gone

27:27 ↗ screaming out of the

27:29 ↗ out of the room yet thinking this isn't

27:30 ↗ what I signed up for that's a good thing

27:34 ↗ see if I can get this

27:39 ↗ started um oh I should just hit the

27:43 ↗ button that always just scares me that

27:45 ↗ I'm

27:46 ↗ here okay tonight's goal is so that

27:50 ↗ you'll understand what the growth

27:51 ↗ management act that lovingly we call GMA

27:54 ↗ that you'll be able to talk about that

27:56 ↗ next time you're at the grocery store

27:57 ↗ you can say what what about that GMA and

28:00 ↗ people will know exactly what you're

28:01 ↗ talking about and why we're amending our

28:04 ↗ comp plan now um we're hoping that you

28:06 ↗ have a a good understanding of the land

28:08 ↗ use element why it's important why we're

28:10 ↗ working on that first and uh we're

28:12 ↗ hoping that by the end of tonight that

28:14 ↗ we have a complete list of goals or at

28:16 ↗ least we have an idea of what that

28:18 ↗ complete list of goals for the land use

28:20 ↗ element might look like based on what we

28:22 ↗ have today and what we think we need to

28:24 ↗ add and what you think we need to add so

28:26 ↗ that's what our hope for tonight

28:30 ↗ is okay

28:33 ↗ GMA what is it back in the 90s uh

28:37 ↗ Washington was growing like crazy any of

28:39 ↗ you that were here then houses were

28:42 ↗ selling overnight uh you might look at a

28:44 ↗ house to buy and it was already sold by

28:46 ↗ the time you got the appointment to look

28:47 ↗ at it I mean we were just bursting at

28:50 ↗ the seams and the utilities weren't

28:53 ↗ catching up and finally the state

28:54 ↗ legislature said this is crazy we're

28:57 ↗ wrecking our our own wonderful place

28:59 ↗ with the growth that's not managed well

29:01 ↗ and so they uh they provided growth

29:04 ↗ management act it came actually as an

29:06 ↗ initiative the citizens had an

29:07 ↗ initiative first and then the

29:10 ↗ legislature uh they weren't completely

29:12 ↗ happy with what the initiative was going

29:14 ↗ the direction and so they said wow we

29:15 ↗ better get moving or else the initiative

29:17 ↗ is going to be the way that we do

29:19 ↗ planning and so the legislator the

29:22 ↗ legislature uh figured it out as as best

29:26 ↗ they could and it's all about Regional

29:28 ↗ coordination it's all about cities and

29:31 ↗ counties and uh working together to

29:33 ↗ figure out how to manage the growth uh

29:36 ↗ it's all about setting up Urban growth

29:38 ↗ areas where the urban growth and urban

29:40 ↗ services are supposed to happen and the

29:42 ↗ rural areas are supposed to be more

29:43 ↗ protected and more low density without

29:46 ↗ sewer and water and those kinds of

29:47 ↗ things um it was pretty fabulous it was

29:50 ↗ um I think they we were third here um

29:52 ↗ Oregon being first and for Florida being

29:54 ↗ second to do growth

29:57 ↗ management these were the state goals

29:59 ↗ and you can tell just by the list of

30:01 ↗ them you can imagine what the problems

30:03 ↗ were that made them come up with these

30:05 ↗ 14 um and they they all make sense still

30:09 ↗ this many years

30:12 ↗ after the

30:15 ↗ um if these if you can imagine that

30:17 ↗ there's 14 in the

30:19 ↗ state um oh I was thinking the next

30:21 ↗ slide from these 14 almost half of them

30:25 ↗ are addressed in the land use element

30:26 ↗ that's how important the land use

30:28 ↗ element is is it has almost all of the

30:30 ↗ growth management goals are ALS are

30:33 ↗ required in the land use element that's

30:35 ↗ why we're starting with that one

30:37 ↗ first

30:38 ↗ um the we've had different schedules for

30:41 ↗ periodic updates the last one we had was

30:43 ↗ in uh we had the first one was 2001 the

30:46 ↗ next one was 2006 and now they're saying

30:48 ↗ the next one will be in eight years

30:50 ↗ after I think the 2015 is when they

30:52 ↗ start counting the eight but we'll see

30:55 ↗ if we really have eight years or if

30:56 ↗ they'll change it um we just change it

30:59 ↗ when they tell us to change it um but um

31:03 ↗ it it gives us a good time to look over

31:05 ↗ those elements like for example Jonah

31:07 ↗ and I were talking about the cultural

31:08 ↗ element we haven't touched that since we

31:10 ↗ first adopted it so that one will need

31:12 ↗ some dusting off and um giving it a good

31:15 ↗ look that's one of the ones that we

31:17 ↗ haven't touched

31:18 ↗ since things that we do every year every

31:22 ↗ year we adop we figure out um from the

31:24 ↗ state they give us new population counts

31:27 ↗ uh we work with them on that and um so

31:30 ↗ every year the whole everything that has

31:32 ↗ to do with population gets rolled into

31:35 ↗ the new State numbers for us so every

31:37 ↗ year we do that same with the housing

31:39 ↗ units um if we have any new land if the

31:42 ↗ city owns any new land like um the new

31:44 ↗ Parkland that we've just received we

31:46 ↗ rezone it to make sure that it's taken

31:48 ↗ off the roles as residential let's say

31:51 ↗ um and we just get credit for it as

31:52 ↗ Parkland we do that whenever any year

31:55 ↗ that we have it and then growth Target

31:58 ↗ we do those whenever we get handed

32:00 ↗ growth targets um and hopefully we don't

32:02 ↗ have to do those for a while our growth

32:03 ↗ targets now were uh consistent up till

32:07 ↗ 2031 so we hope uh and we just approved

32:10 ↗ those I think in 2009 so we're hoping we

32:12 ↗ don't have to do that for a while that's

32:14 ↗ that's a pretty uh exciting time when

32:17 ↗ you have to figure out where the next

32:19 ↗ the next Generation has to

32:21 ↗ go the things we've done recently that

32:24 ↗ will make this update not so hard for us

32:27 ↗ um I was mentioning this Central isqua

32:28 ↗ plan where we've accommodated our growth

32:31 ↗ targets that was just adopted last year

32:34 ↗ uh the Lakeside development agreement up

32:35 ↗ on the hill near isqua Highlands was

32:38 ↗ just adopted also 2013 the rowy

32:41 ↗ development agreement which is actually

32:43 ↗ within the central isqua plan was

32:45 ↗ adopted in 2011 that has some growth

32:47 ↗ attached to it we're working on a

32:50 ↗ development agreement with Costco uh

32:52 ↗ we're not quite done with that one yet

32:53 ↗ but that's going on that's also in the

32:55 ↗ um Urban core of the central plan

32:58 ↗ and we're in the midst of annexing the

33:00 ↗ uh Lakes mammer State Park we wouldn't

33:03 ↗ own it I just want to make that public

33:05 ↗ because that people get confused with

33:06 ↗ that but it'll be under our jurisdiction

33:08 ↗ for anything like permitting and um that

33:11 ↗ kind of thing right now it's it's in the

33:12 ↗ county so the county deals with all the

33:15 ↗ jurisdictional issues but we're in the

33:16 ↗ process of annexing the state park so

33:18 ↗ that's kind of

33:20 ↗ exciting so all these things um help us

33:23 ↗ in that they're already underway so we

33:25 ↗ don't have to worry about them in the

33:26 ↗ periodic update

33:30 ↗ we have nine elements uh as I we said

33:33 ↗ before some of them are um were extra

33:35 ↗ that we did just because they were

33:36 ↗ important to us we're starting this

33:39 ↗ group with land use because it's the

33:40 ↗ most important it's sort of the heart

33:41 ↗ and soul of the of the rest of the plan

33:44 ↗ everything has to tie back into the land

33:46 ↗ use element um some of them are

33:49 ↗ fascinating elements some of

33:51 ↗ them are not really my my favorite but

33:55 ↗ um they're all important in their own

33:57 ↗ way and and um um I think we're going to

33:59 ↗ have a lot of fun with all of

34:02 ↗ them um the our strategy for this and I

34:06 ↗ don't know Kristen whenever you want to

34:07 ↗ come up you're you're welcome to come up

34:08 ↗ and help but this is the city this is

34:11 ↗ our wonderful City and we've broken it

34:13 ↗ into I shouldn't say broken we have

34:15 ↗ divided it into um areas sub areas if

34:19 ↗ you will Central being right in the

34:21 ↗ middle um Central being as you mentioned

34:24 ↗ before um it's flat it's bikable it's

34:27 ↗ walkable a we're hoping someday to have

34:29 ↗ a beautiful green necklace of parks and

34:31 ↗ trails from Creek to Creek State Park to

34:34 ↗ Confluence Park and

34:36 ↗ um that's just going to be a marvelous

34:39 ↗ Jewel for us um and you'll probably

34:42 ↗ recognize some other areas um Tiger

34:45 ↗ Mountain and um Park Point Tiger

34:46 ↗ Mountain those are preserved areas um

34:50 ↗ the good news about this map is that um

34:53 ↗ as I said lakes and mamish state park

34:55 ↗ and Tiger Mountain already have planned

34:57 ↗ for them so we don't have to worry about

34:59 ↗ that in this update also the urban

35:02 ↗ Villages that we have Talis Highlands

35:05 ↗ and Lakeside already have development

35:07 ↗ agreements and their goals and policies

35:09 ↗ are already set out for their 20-year um

35:12 ↗ life so we don't have to worry about

35:14 ↗ that in our periodic

35:16 ↗ update um centralis squa has already

35:19 ↗ been done recently so we'll kind of be

35:21 ↗ tweaking things to fit in with that but

35:23 ↗ we don't have to worry about updating

35:26 ↗ that yet cuz we just adopted it and

35:28 ↗ Oldtown is a special one um really

35:31 ↗ special when we first adopted growth

35:33 ↗ management plan in '95 the council said

35:36 ↗ the first sub area we're doing is

35:38 ↗ Oldtown because it's it's the heart and

35:40 ↗ soul and we want to be sure before we

35:42 ↗ start planning any future that that gets

35:45 ↗ our special attention and we're hoping

35:48 ↗ to do that that same detailed Dive In

35:50 ↗ Focus a lot of public involvement next

35:53 ↗ year once we're done with the periodic

35:54 ↗ update that the state's

35:56 ↗ requiring um so we have that sort of on

35:59 ↗ the list that we're not going to get to

36:00 ↗ dive into Oldtown this year we're

36:02 ↗ certainly going to look at it for the

36:04 ↗ periodic update but we're not going to

36:06 ↗ get up to our ears in it like we want to

36:08 ↗ next year to give it all the love and

36:09 ↗ attention and really focus on it like we

36:12 ↗ did when we first did the sub area plan

36:14 ↗ so I wanted to mention that that um that

36:16 ↗ old Town's the next one up we hope for

36:18 ↗ for a big Focus next year in

36:23 ↗ 2015 um

36:27 ↗ which leaves these areas would be the

36:31 ↗ pieces and parts that we'll have to pull

36:33 ↗ in for the periodic update these areas

36:35 ↗ haven't really been looked at in any big

36:37 ↗ detail um North isqua and Providence

36:40 ↗ Point Greenwood Point uh we annexed in

36:43 ↗ the recent history so that was the last

36:45 ↗ time we really focused on any of those

36:47 ↗ um so it really when you look at the

36:49 ↗ city and what we're actually working on

36:50 ↗ in the periodic update it's not quite so

36:52 ↗ overwhelming if you if you think of wow

36:55 ↗ if we had to do the whole city we really

36:57 ↗ don't have to do the whole city we just

36:59 ↗ have to make sure that the pieces and

37:00 ↗ parts are tied in so hopefully that

37:02 ↗ makes it look a little less

37:04 ↗ overwhelming I know it does for me yes

37:07 ↗ Chantel so uh you had the list of all

37:09 ↗ the different areas of the comp plan

37:11 ↗ have other Commissions in board working

37:14 ↗ on some areas concurrently working on

37:16 ↗ some of that or that's another slide you

37:19 ↗ are such an overachiever Shantel yes is

37:22 ↗ that the ne oh that was the next one you

37:25 ↗ were looking ahead um you all

37:28 ↗ are the guardians of the comprehensive

37:31 ↗ plan big responsibility but you are the

37:33 ↗ Guardians every other board and

37:36 ↗ commission feeds into you with their

37:38 ↗ recommendations on how they think things

37:40 ↗ should work for example the Arts

37:42 ↗ commission will tell you what they think

37:44 ↗ about the cultural plan the Human

37:45 ↗ Services Commission will tell you what

37:47 ↗ they think about the Human Services

37:49 ↗ element and the housing element the

37:50 ↗ Parks Board will come and tell you what

37:52 ↗ they think about the parks element um

37:55 ↗ they're all advisory boards and you're

37:56 ↗ an advisory board but you're the

37:58 ↗ guardian of the whole plan and so it's

38:02 ↗ really exciting you guys really have the

38:03 ↗ best seat in the house truly you do TR

38:06 ↗ and yes um I know that we're not talking

38:08 ↗ about Oldtown correct but the cultural

38:11 ↗ element that the Arts commission is

38:13 ↗ going to be talking about is going to

38:15 ↗ Encompass Oldtown yes does that pose a

38:20 ↗ problem or I I haven't seen what you

38:23 ↗ guys are thinking about yet but I don't

38:25 ↗ think it will I think what we're hoping

38:27 ↗ to do um we're going to update

38:30 ↗ everything this year but I'm but our

38:33 ↗ plan is and of course we haven't seen it

38:34 ↗ yet but our thought is that to really

38:36 ↗ dive into it next year and and you know

38:39 ↗ and and figure out the parking the

38:41 ↗ signage the design um you know all the

38:44 ↗ pieces that have kind of languished

38:45 ↗ while we were doing the central plan to

38:47 ↗ sort of update all the you know the

38:49 ↗ transportation circulation um the

38:51 ↗ historic pieces how to get the parks and

38:54 ↗ um you know the the in-depth because we

38:56 ↗ only have this this year to do all of

38:59 ↗ this whereas we could spend all year on

39:01 ↗ Oldtown and not be done yet I mean art

39:04 ↗ is not going to interfere with that I

39:06 ↗ just wanted to I don't think it will no

39:08 ↗ no I think it'll all be

39:11 ↗ good my fear is though that we'll want

39:13 ↗ to dive in and we'll have to be like oh

39:17 ↗ you know put that in a little note spot

39:19 ↗ to dive into you know next year because

39:22 ↗ I think that's going to be the the hard

39:23 ↗ part is to not dive

39:25 ↗ in are there any questions questions on

39:29 ↗ who all is working on which

39:32 ↗ pieces

39:35 ↗ okay do you want to go on this one or

39:37 ↗ should I keep going either

39:40 ↗ way you lucky

39:44 ↗ thing um okay you want to do it I'll be

39:47 ↗ right

39:50 ↗ here okay so we are diving head first

39:53 ↗ into comprehensive plan with the land

39:55 ↗ use element um it is the biggest piece

39:59 ↗ it contains eight of the GMA

40:01 ↗ requirements and it is the core it

40:05 ↗ determines land use patterns land use

40:07 ↗ types where things are going to go

40:08 ↗ traffic patterns because if you have

40:10 ↗ commercial here there's going to be more

40:12 ↗ traffic at this time of day that kind of

40:14 ↗ thing it's pretty big and land use

40:16 ↗ is the element it's it's a delicate

40:19 ↗ balance because we're on the edge of the

40:20 ↗ urban growth foundary so we have to do

40:22 ↗ what we can in our land use settlement

40:24 ↗ to help protect our natural environment

40:26 ↗ that both is adjacent to the city on the

40:28 ↗ other side of the urban growth boundary

40:30 ↗ and within the city and also accommodate

40:33 ↗ development in the way that best

40:35 ↗ protects those natural amenities so it's

40:37 ↗ it's a it's a big one

40:40 ↗ um so I mentioned in the handout that

40:44 ↗ the land use element has become quite

40:45 ↗ cumbersome because we haven't really

40:48 ↗ given it an overhaul in a long time we

40:50 ↗ keep adding very important pieces to it

40:53 ↗ like sustainability and climate and

40:54 ↗ trees and we add all these things and we

40:56 ↗ add all the information but all of a

40:58 ↗ sudden you can't find anything anymore

41:00 ↗ so we've decided to break it down to its

41:02 ↗ Bare Bones and kind of start over again

41:04 ↗ and look at the goals that's what we're

41:05 ↗ going to do tonight is look at the goals

41:07 ↗ and see what we have see what needs to

41:09 ↗ be added or deleted or changed and just

41:11 ↗ focus on those tonight but just for the

41:13 ↗ future so the elements we're going to

41:15 ↗ kind of do this with several of the

41:17 ↗ elements um we're going to start with an

41:19 ↗ introduction each element will have a

41:21 ↗ vision then list the GMA

41:23 ↗ requirements it'll be broken down by

41:26 ↗ topic or at least in land use we'll see

41:27 ↗ how it goes and the rest then we'll have

41:29 ↗ a goal followed by discussion policies

41:34 ↗ and then implementation at the very end

41:36 ↗ of

41:37 ↗ it so I'm going way back to the basics

41:41 ↗ but we're going to talk about what a

41:42 ↗ goal is since we're doing those tonight

41:45 ↗ so goals are our aim or desired result

41:48 ↗ it's the big picture it's not the vision

41:50 ↗ but it's a big picture under a

41:53 ↗ topic those are supported by policies

41:56 ↗ policies are principles that guide our

41:59 ↗ decisions and they guide our regulations

42:01 ↗ when we start developing

42:03 ↗ those those are followed by

42:05 ↗ implementation implementation imple

42:07 ↗ implementation which is carrying out the

42:10 ↗ plan actually doing what we say we're

42:11 ↗ going to

42:13 ↗ do we decided to come up with an example

42:16 ↗ so in real life your goal is to turn

42:19 ↗ your garden turn your yard into a garden

42:21 ↗ by Spring

42:22 ↗ 2015 your policies strike a balance

42:26 ↗ between decorative and

42:28 ↗ strive to be organic and strive for

42:30 ↗ Native local plantings your

42:33 ↗ implementation identify and purchase low

42:35 ↗ maintenance decorative plantings

42:37 ↗ research purchase and use organic

42:39 ↗ fertilizers and Pest Control shop at

42:42 ↗ local farmers markets and a schedule of

42:44 ↗ time to plant after the frost is over

42:46 ↗ okay so you see how they kind of go from

42:48 ↗ the big picture to more specific to

42:51 ↗ actually doing the

42:54 ↗ policies so the GMA requirements that

42:56 ↗ are on here are prevent

42:58 ↗ sprawl encourage development in urban

43:01 ↗ areas encourage public involvement and

43:03 ↗ coordination promote

43:05 ↗ preservation designate General location

43:08 ↗ of land uses identify existing and

43:11 ↗ future

43:12 ↗ populations protect quality and quantity

43:14 ↗ of groundwater and review mitigate and

43:17 ↗ cleanse drainage flooding and storm

43:19 ↗ water

43:20 ↗ runoff sometimes I forget to ask if

43:22 ↗ there are questions and I just keep

43:25 ↗ going so if there's anything just pop

43:27 ↗ your hand throw your hand up

43:29 ↗ there so our vision right now as it

43:33 ↗ exists is just a list of goals and then

43:36 ↗ you have more goals later on and then

43:37 ↗ there are some more goals so what I've

43:39 ↗ done here is condense some of the goals

43:43 ↗ um to make a vision and while it's not

43:47 ↗ our goal tonight to rewrite the vision

43:51 ↗ um probably like some input on the

43:53 ↗ vision and see yeah probably like some

43:55 ↗ feedback on this and think about it you

43:58 ↗ know maybe it's something we come back

44:00 ↗ to later on after we've addressed the

44:01 ↗ element more but this is what we have

44:04 ↗ right now establish a pattern of

44:05 ↗ development that maintains and enhances

44:07 ↗ the quality of life within the community

44:10 ↗ and sets the framework for a sustainable

44:12 ↗ Community by addressing environmental

44:14 ↗ economic and social issues okay so keep

44:18 ↗ that in mind we'll come back to

44:21 ↗ it

44:24 ↗ so I think what we're going to try to do

44:26 ↗ tonight is go through the goals that are

44:29 ↗ in the plan now like I said I kind of

44:30 ↗ took out everything else that's there

44:32 ↗ and just focused on took out all the

44:34 ↗ policies and the implementation and all

44:36 ↗ the other discussion information that's

44:38 ↗ there and said let's just focus on the

44:39 ↗ goals and see if that's what we really

44:40 ↗ want okay I broke it down into

44:43 ↗ categories first one is natural

44:45 ↗ environment and

44:47 ↗ amenities the goal is to maintain and

44:49 ↗ enhance the natural environment and

44:51 ↗ amenities of the City and surrounding

44:53 ↗ areas

44:57 ↗ so this would be protect the environment

45:00 ↗ protect the fish protect the hillsides

45:03 ↗ keep the trees um no net loss of trees

45:07 ↗ um am I leaving anything out no

45:13 ↗ groundw so is there is that too

45:16 ↗ broad yes shant is amidi is a term

45:20 ↗ that's defined somewhere or is that

45:23 ↗ whatever our

45:25 ↗ imagination allows to be right now it's

45:28 ↗ whatever your imagination allows it to

45:30 ↗ be but if that's something that you

45:32 ↗ think needs to be more specific say you

45:34 ↗ know we really ought to start to

45:35 ↗ pinpoint some of those things that we

45:36 ↗ want to protect ien it sounds human made

45:39 ↗ as opposed to Natural to me but

45:42 ↗ I those are the enhancement but I so I

45:46 ↗ don't know if it fits under

45:50 ↗ environment

45:52 ↗ okay I would agree but it's also in the

45:54 ↗ title so if it's in the title so

45:58 ↗ change question that so is it our title

46:01 ↗ or their title pardon me is the title

46:04 ↗ ours to yes it is yours to change

46:09 ↗ yes so I look at amenities as being

46:14 ↗ people being able to use the

46:17 ↗ environment and that isn't consistent

46:21 ↗ with enhancing the natural environment I

46:23 ↗ mean there's two separate issues there h

46:30 ↗ okay unless you add another goal under

46:33 ↗ there that specifies what the amenities

46:35 ↗ are well now that kind of moves into the

46:37 ↗ next goal which I even looked at and

46:39 ↗ said what's the difference I had to

46:40 ↗ think about it for a long time so may we

46:42 ↗ if you look at that next goal and say we

46:44 ↗ really need to go back and add something

46:46 ↗ we can is are Are there

46:49 ↗ natural things you'd like to refer to

46:52 ↗ here or do you just want to say natural

46:54 ↗ environment

47:00 ↗ so well if we agree there are two

47:03 ↗ separate things we should separate them

47:05 ↗ into two separate goals

47:07 ↗ okay let me show you the well let me

47:11 ↗ show you the next goal that I was

47:12 ↗ thinking of Ensure land use development

47:14 ↗ protects and enhances isqua's natural

47:16 ↗ environment and Scenic

47:18 ↗ Beauty they're very

47:21 ↗ similar but this

47:25 ↗ one go three

47:28 ↗ but but goal three is the amenities okay

47:33 ↗ okay all right I'm going to

47:36 ↗ go if goal three is amenities amenities

47:39 ↗ or is that

47:42 ↗ participation in the

47:46 ↗ process it was intended to be it was

47:48 ↗ intended to be process using using the

47:50 ↗ environment it was intended to be

47:54 ↗ process resources to me implies

48:00 ↗ hospitalities there are there is

48:01 ↗ something along the line of resources in

48:04 ↗ a while

48:11 ↗ um I know they're the big resources

48:15 ↗ yeah but they're things like Mining and

48:18 ↗ Agriculture and that's what was referred

48:19 ↗ to in those resources so should we add

48:21 ↗ something here about amenities so forget

48:23 ↗ I said

48:24 ↗ anything okay so I just look at the

48:27 ↗ definition of amenity and it said

48:29 ↗ facilities Appliance um you know a whole

48:31 ↗ bunch of things resources and whatnot so

48:34 ↗ okay definitely more on the keep it from

48:38 ↗ being human made saying as opposed to

48:40 ↗ the

48:41 ↗ Natural

48:43 ↗ okay Trisha's right uh she just

48:45 ↗ mentioned we could put that in the

48:46 ↗ discussion as well clarifying what that

48:48 ↗ is okay so I'm not sure if we just

48:51 ↗ decided something what was what change

48:53 ↗ was being made it went back forth a

48:55 ↗ couple times I apologize so

48:59 ↗ what actually I should clar um maintain

49:01 ↗ and enhance the natural environment and

49:03 ↗ we can just leave it at that of the City

49:05 ↗ and surrounding areas and then in the

49:07 ↗ discussion discuss the hillsides The

49:10 ↗ Creeks the streams and what a what

49:15 ↗ amenities what natural features the city

49:17 ↗ is trying to protect so so then you take

49:19 ↗ it out of the

49:20 ↗ T yes we'll just take it out all

49:22 ↗ together and then use it in the

49:23 ↗ discussion ifes that work can you try

49:25 ↗ can you do things on on the screen I

49:27 ↗ can't I've got it here and I'll read it

49:29 ↗ back to you as we go

49:32 ↗ only well that's true we could do it

49:34 ↗ that

49:35 ↗ way are

49:38 ↗ U are Parks and Recreation included in

49:41 ↗ this because I think of amenities within

49:44 ↗ the city as places to go places to enjoy

49:47 ↗ the

49:49 ↗ environment is that part of this there

49:51 ↗ is a Parks and Recreation element I I

49:54 ↗ was thinking there might have been but

49:55 ↗ are you

49:57 ↗ how does this differ from that well if

50:02 ↗ you seant tall mentioned that amenity

50:05 ↗ seam man-made which would be Parks and

50:07 ↗ Recreation and that sort of things which

50:10 ↗ would be addressed in the Parks element

50:12 ↗ and that this is a more

50:15 ↗ natural Mother Nature Made

50:19 ↗ environment okay does that make

50:22 ↗ sense would there be a need for a more

50:27 ↗ clear definition of how this relates to

50:30 ↗ or is different than we can certainly

50:32 ↗ put that in the discussion so we would

50:34 ↗ separate the two we would have this one

50:36 ↗ being just the protection of the

50:38 ↗ environment and then talk separately

50:40 ↗ about the amenities the park structures

50:43 ↗ and correct parking and and we can refer

50:45 ↗ to that in the discussion and

50:47 ↗ say you know ameni such as parks and

50:50 ↗ trails and that's are discussed in the

50:52 ↗ Parks and Recreation element so you

50:54 ↗ would leave in of the city and and

50:56 ↗ surrounding areas you just take out the

50:58 ↗ word inanity yes okay I actually have a

51:01 ↗ question about the surrounding areas

51:03 ↗ what

51:03 ↗ is

51:05 ↗ that Encompass that's outside of the

51:10 ↗ city itself I'm not

51:13 ↗ sure if you look at the map behind you

51:15 ↗ yeah there are spaces between the clani

51:19 ↗ area so isqua FS City Road and isqua

51:22 ↗ Highlands that should be retained as

51:24 ↗ open space and then between esqua

51:27 ↗ Highlands and well tradition park or

51:29 ↗ lake

51:30 ↗ tradition in that area um that should

51:33 ↗ also be maintained so the and Tiger

51:34 ↗ Mountain Cougar Mountain those are all

51:37 ↗ adjacent natural areas that we still use

51:39 ↗ and need to aim to protect

51:42 ↗ so um this might not be the right

51:45 ↗ question for this but where does the

51:48 ↗ does this address the funding that's

51:50 ↗ used for that no it does not it would be

51:55 ↗ an implementation

51:56 ↗ yeah yeah

52:01 ↗ okay oops you ready I just accidentally

52:04 ↗ hit the button we ready all

52:07 ↗ right so ensure land use development

52:10 ↗ protects and enhances isqua's natural

52:12 ↗ environment and Scenic Beauty and this

52:14 ↗ refers to development itself and

52:16 ↗ development when it comes in

52:18 ↗ incorporating the natural environment

52:20 ↗ into it

52:23 ↗ so building Lookouts or building

52:27 ↗ you know

52:28 ↗ using a wetland as part of your you know

52:31 ↗ landscape or natural environment there

52:33 ↗ that you're required to have rather than

52:35 ↗ covering over the

52:37 ↗ Wetland

52:39 ↗ um but that's what that refers

52:42 ↗ to

52:45 ↗ okay moving on okay provide for active

52:49 ↗ public participation this can be moved

52:51 ↗ now that I look at it and you all

52:53 ↗ brought it up um but it is it's it's

52:55 ↗ involving the public and making sure

52:56 ↗ that we coordinate and involve the

52:58 ↗ public so this is really meaning public

53:00 ↗ participation not not public Recreation

53:02 ↗ it is and when I put this here I was

53:04 ↗ initially thinking in development

53:07 ↗ processes but you know it's protecting

53:08 ↗ the environment as well so it's it's

53:10 ↗ everything so we can shift that out if

53:12 ↗ you are we agreed yes

53:17 ↗ okay okay maintain and create a

53:21 ↗ diversity of high quality places to live

53:23 ↗ work shop and recreate

53:28 ↗ I'm good with that one does that fit in

53:30 ↗ the natural environment

53:32 ↗ too that's the build

53:35 ↗ environment it would be the built

53:37 ↗ environment it would

53:38 ↗ be connections to Trails maybe and Parks

53:43 ↗ so Trail heads Parks making sure that

53:45 ↗ there's parking available at Trail heads

53:48 ↗ um making sure that sidewalks are

53:52 ↗ right yeah this is

53:54 ↗ built so so looking at at

53:57 ↗ you know you went down go one two 3 4

53:59 ↗ and here we have kind of subcategories

54:00 ↗ went natural environment to

54:02 ↗ developmental

54:03 ↗ patterns and so that that's kind of a

54:06 ↗ separate category

54:08 ↗ so I mean that's why it's a separate

54:10 ↗ goal right it's kind of the hierarchy

54:13 ↗ from the natural and then make sure your

54:16 ↗ built environment includes the natural

54:19 ↗ and respects the natural and then it's

54:21 ↗ then when you're doing the development

54:23 ↗ make sure it's high quality and really

54:25 ↗ good and I'm being blink but it's kind

54:27 ↗ of we're kind of working through the

54:28 ↗ hierarchy of goal I mean all the goals

54:30 ↗ are important but you're right one

54:32 ↗ started with respect the environment and

54:35 ↗ then when you develop make sure the

54:37 ↗ development works with it and I'm just

54:39 ↗ saying that to clarify because it looks

54:41 ↗ like for some folks you're you're going

54:43 ↗ on the listen that you skip you from

54:46 ↗ natural to right into development and

54:48 ↗ and it but it is separated out I'm just

54:50 ↗ kind of stating that so it's clear

54:52 ↗ because you're because it's not it you

54:55 ↗ kind of change Topics in why we no no

54:57 ↗ longer in natural environment we are in

54:59 ↗ development patterns okay I missed

55:02 ↗ that Christen can you uh explain what

55:05 ↗ you mean by A diversity because it seems

55:08 ↗ to me it should be create main maintain

55:10 ↗ and create high quality places to live

55:12 ↗ shop work and recreate I'm not sure what

55:15 ↗ A diversity of means well A diversity of

55:19 ↗ places to live would be multif family

55:22 ↗ housing versus single family housing

55:25 ↗ condos apartments Cottages that kind of

55:27 ↗ thing um shopping you have lower scale

55:30 ↗ retail and then you have higher density

55:33 ↗ retail you have your Costco Warehouses

55:35 ↗ versus your mom and pop

55:37 ↗ Stores um same with shopping working

55:41 ↗ incubator businesses versus

55:44 ↗ microsofts and Rec Recreation Trails

55:47 ↗ sidewalks Parks um open space versus an

55:51 ↗ active playground kind of thing

55:57 ↗ okay

56:01 ↗ okay okay number

56:03 ↗ five allow for and accommodate growth in

56:06 ↗ a manner that is fiscally conservative

56:09 ↗ responsive to the community and

56:11 ↗ protective of the natural

56:19 ↗ environment looking at it now I think

56:21 ↗ two and five are similar

56:33 ↗ yeah um again just thinking out loud

56:36 ↗ fiscally conservative kind

56:37 ↗ of jumps out that not sure that how that

56:41 ↗ fits in there uh accommodate growth

56:43 ↗ responsive to community protect

56:44 ↗ environment fiscally conservative I'm

56:46 ↗ not sure what that means in that sense I

56:48 ↗ would suggest fiscally responsible

56:51 ↗ rather than fiscally conservative

56:52 ↗ because conservative has some political

56:55 ↗ connotations that that uh some people

56:57 ↗ might object to

57:05 ↗ okay I'm

57:07 ↗ still um chewing on that part too

57:12 ↗ I it seems the the fiscally responsible

57:16 ↗ which I definitely like better um is uh

57:20 ↗ not sure it fits into the development

57:23 ↗ patterns so fiscal alog together should

57:25 ↗ come out you don't think into the

57:27 ↗ development p f somewhere in the come

57:29 ↗ plan but I'm not sure if it fits here

57:30 ↗ not in this space right well part of

57:32 ↗ growth management Act is to pay is that

57:35 ↗ new growth pays for itself either

57:37 ↗ through impact fees or or mitigation or

57:40 ↗ other things and so that's in there to

57:42 ↗ show that the city needs to pay for part

57:44 ↗ of the community but the growth needs to

57:47 ↗ pay for itself as well you know there

57:49 ↗ needs to be a balance so it's not just

57:51 ↗ the community that's paying for the new

57:53 ↗ growth so section that another section

57:56 ↗ for that if this is the only place to

57:59 ↗ have it that's fine but we could make

58:00 ↗ one like like I said this is Bare Bones

58:03 ↗ so if in the land use element we want to

58:06 ↗ have another section that is um what's

58:09 ↗ the word uh fin financing or

58:12 ↗ implementation or something like that

58:14 ↗ then you could move that into that

58:16 ↗ section and

58:18 ↗ say accommodate growth in a way that's

58:20 ↗ fiscally responsible and then you come

58:22 ↗ up with implementations implementation

58:24 ↗ plans or say through you know impact

58:27 ↗ fees and that sort of thing so there are

58:30 ↗ there are it can be moved yeah EXC I was

58:33 ↗ going to suggest scratching fiscally

58:35 ↗ conservative putting fiscally

58:37 ↗ responsible something along that line

58:40 ↗ you said scratching fiscally and just

58:41 ↗ leaving responsible well conservative

58:43 ↗ put responsible somehow whatever the

58:45 ↗ semantics there

58:47 ↗ okay you make sure your microphones on

58:50 ↗ when you're talking please I was just

58:53 ↗ speaking too low I guess

58:56 ↗ so I I kind of like the idea of looking

58:58 ↗ at that maybe as as a separate thing

59:01 ↗ then fitting in there and where it can

59:02 ↗ be dealt with explained a little more I

59:05 ↗ mean just a simple thing of you know you

59:07 ↗ know permit fees and those kinds of

59:08 ↗ stuff that you're you're talking about

59:10 ↗ can be I think they're kind of separate

59:13 ↗ from this goal and we could be dealt

59:15 ↗ better okay and in a different one is

59:18 ↗ there some yes John I don't like the N

59:21 ↗ the words physically

59:22 ↗ conservative I think it should be

59:25 ↗ different than physically conservative

59:27 ↗ do you like fiscally

59:29 ↗ responsible that would be better than

59:31 ↗ conservative but putting it in another

59:33 ↗ area would be better okay well how about

59:37 ↗ and this is going to come back this

59:38 ↗ isn't your last time to see it so how

59:41 ↗ about if right now we move fiscally

59:44 ↗ responsible delete conservative move

59:47 ↗ fiscally responsible out of here and

59:48 ↗ create a new section that is geared more

59:52 ↗ towards the technical end of things

59:55 ↗ Financial end a new even a new topic so

59:57 ↗ we have natural environment we have

59:58 ↗ development patterns and then we could

1:00:00 ↗ have another one that is with the goal

1:00:04 ↗ but implementation or financial

1:00:07 ↗ considerations or something does that

1:00:09 ↗ work I think so that could be a really

1:00:13 ↗ big

1:00:18 ↗ topic

1:00:20 ↗ okay continuing with development

1:00:23 ↗ patterns it's a big one

1:00:29 ↗ require multimodal

1:00:31 ↗ Transportation I'm going to read the

1:00:33 ↗ whole thing require multimodal

1:00:35 ↗ Transportation as a key to a successful

1:00:37 ↗ land use pattern which concentrates

1:00:40 ↗ development emphasizes pedestrian

1:00:42 ↗ orientation supports transit services

1:00:45 ↗ reduces the consumption of fuel and land

1:00:48 ↗ and reduces emissions which contribute

1:00:49 ↗ to climate

1:00:52 ↗ change I'm seeing head shakes

1:00:56 ↗ so a lot of this is GMA required doesn't

1:00:59 ↗ have to be all in this section this is

1:01:01 ↗ the way it is now the point is to

1:01:03 ↗ revisit it so you can break it up you

1:01:07 ↗ can just talk about it I just think it

1:01:10 ↗ it has a uh missing one word okay wow

1:01:14 ↗ and that's

1:01:16 ↗ cars they part of emissions well I

1:01:20 ↗ understand it's part of admissions but

1:01:21 ↗ it's you know develop when you develop

1:01:24 ↗ something and you're developing

1:01:26 ↗ pedestrian uh walkways and transit

1:01:29 ↗ services you're not doing anything to um

1:01:33 ↗ look into what you do with cars cars are

1:01:36 ↗ still going to be there so it to me it

1:01:38 ↗ just says we're going to eliminate cars

1:01:40 ↗ and we're going to walk and ride the

1:01:42 ↗ bike well and to add to that it

1:01:46 ↗ doesn't mention bikes specifically and I

1:01:50 ↗ know that

1:01:51 ↗ the

1:01:52 ↗ overall uh bike um

1:01:56 ↗ Community is

1:01:58 ↗ very

1:02:00 ↗ uh assertive in being included in um

1:02:05 ↗ city and county plans as a current staff

1:02:08 ↗ person working on the pet and bike well

1:02:10 ↗ there's bike Mobility action plan right

1:02:13 ↗ now yes I can I would agree oh okay so I

1:02:16 ↗ just I didn't even read farther sorry

1:02:18 ↗ but um yeah okay I think that can

1:02:21 ↗ sometimes get heated

1:02:27 ↗ yeah I'm kind of on the same same page

1:02:30 ↗ with the car thing in a sense because it

1:02:32 ↗ almost reads to me like get rid of

1:02:36 ↗ automobiles okay I mean I know that's

1:02:39 ↗ not the intention yeah yeah yeah I think

1:02:43 ↗ that's it's almost if you want to put it

1:02:45 ↗ down to to a basic Force everybody to

1:02:49 ↗ walk doesn't

1:02:52 ↗ multimodal yeah yeah include everything

1:02:55 ↗ we just discussed

1:02:56 ↗ it the word the word implies everything

1:02:58 ↗ that was discussed yes cars so cars are

1:03:02 ↗ there I think that is's no question that

1:03:04 ↗ they'll be there even if you emphasize

1:03:06 ↗ other areas of it but um I would ask I

1:03:10 ↗ would add the word linked to that linked

1:03:14 ↗ or connected okay I think it's a good

1:03:17 ↗ how so with by the way how so linked or

1:03:19 ↗ connect linked where linked or connected

1:03:22 ↗ um

1:03:24 ↗ connected uh

1:03:26 ↗ well an multimodal a connected multimod

1:03:30 ↗ that's a lot of

1:03:31 ↗ work so is there going to be stuff in on

1:03:35 ↗ you're going to yes there will be

1:03:37 ↗ discussion below the goals okay so and

1:03:40 ↗ policies why wouldn't the the goal be

1:03:43 ↗ just the first part require multimodal

1:03:45 ↗ Transportation the key to successful

1:03:47 ↗ land use pattern and then put the rest

1:03:50 ↗ of it

1:03:51 ↗ underneath

1:03:53 ↗ okay what do you all think of that

1:03:56 ↗ goals are usually short and sweet and

1:04:00 ↗ that these are all encompassing yeah

1:04:02 ↗ that's all in there I you know I I I

1:04:05 ↗ would suggest doing the doing require

1:04:08 ↗ multimodal a connected multimodal

1:04:12 ↗ Transportation Network something like

1:04:15 ↗ that and then have a goal for pedestrian

1:04:20 ↗ and or nonmotorized right orientation

1:04:26 ↗ um and

1:04:28 ↗ transits okay I would almost real

1:04:31 ↗ policies I would I would almost transit

1:04:34 ↗ to me is really part of multimodal but I

1:04:37 ↗ would definitely emphasize because

1:04:38 ↗ that's part of the urban Villages that's

1:04:40 ↗ part of the central e equal plan The

1:04:42 ↗ Pedestrian and bicycle orientation as a

1:04:45 ↗ separate goal okay so right now I have

1:04:49 ↗ require a connected multimodal

1:04:51 ↗ Transportation Network as a key to a

1:04:53 ↗ successful NES pattern period and the

1:04:55 ↗ rest of that moves into

1:04:57 ↗ policies I wouldn't even use pattern I

1:05:00 ↗ just say successful land use period okay

1:05:03 ↗ to successful land

1:05:05 ↗ use could could you read that one more

1:05:07 ↗ time please require a connected

1:05:10 ↗ multimodal Transportation Network as a

1:05:12 ↗ key to successful land use so the only

1:05:15 ↗ word that strikes me is uh unique here

1:05:17 ↗ in the goal is require there's no other

1:05:19 ↗ goal that starts out with the word

1:05:21 ↗ require everything else is enhanced

1:05:24 ↗ ensure very soft thing and all a sudden

1:05:26 ↗ this comes down to require and Implement

1:05:30 ↗ so I I think that's just out of balance

1:05:32 ↗ with the other with the other ones

1:05:33 ↗ somehow or other not that you know I

1:05:35 ↗ don't want that but

1:05:37 ↗ emphasize something should be consistent

1:05:39 ↗ there courage un it's already a policy

1:05:41 ↗ how about

1:05:42 ↗ devel how about develop how about

1:05:45 ↗ develop develop okay develop would be

1:05:49 ↗ develop encourage all

1:05:51 ↗ right so not so strong a word develop en

1:05:55 ↗ courage

1:05:57 ↗ support a connected multimodal

1:05:58 ↗ Transportation network is a key to

1:06:00 ↗ successful land

1:06:02 ↗ use all the other ones are policy

1:06:04 ↗ underneath is it beautiful Beau

1:06:07 ↗ beautiful all right what we're looking

1:06:10 ↗ for I'm not sure Inc courage is strong

1:06:12 ↗ enough no I I like the de develop

1:06:15 ↗ develop yeah okay that's very

1:06:18 ↗ suggested all

1:06:20 ↗ right so when we come back next time

1:06:24 ↗ those other pieces will be included as

1:06:26 ↗ policies below that yeah okay I I would

1:06:29 ↗ like to have a separate goal that says

1:06:31 ↗ emphasize pedestrian and bike a separate

1:06:34 ↗ goal that says that okay what have goal

1:06:37 ↗ six b or seven 37 that says emphasize

1:06:43 ↗ pedestrian bike orientation because

1:06:45 ↗ that's what's in our Central is aqu plan

1:06:48 ↗ isn't that part of multi modal though

1:06:50 ↗ shouldn't it just be one of the should

1:06:51 ↗ it be one of the policies underneath

1:06:54 ↗ that this goal six otherwise every goal

1:06:56 ↗ everything's going to have a

1:06:58 ↗ goal instead of a

1:07:01 ↗ policy I would like it to be a goal not

1:07:04 ↗ more than that translate into a

1:07:10 ↗ policy I'm looking for

1:07:13 ↗ something are we talking about goal

1:07:14 ↗ seven or goal six I'm goal

1:07:17 ↗ six go oh

1:07:21 ↗ okay I I think it's covered in Moto

1:07:26 ↗ I question yes what um in the

1:07:31 ↗ overall scope of

1:07:34 ↗ things does the outline of the goals and

1:07:38 ↗ our implementation plans for them affect

1:07:42 ↗ the city's ability to apply for or

1:07:45 ↗ qualify for Grants or um yes okay so

1:07:57 ↗ that was the end of my question okay

1:07:58 ↗ right now and I I was what came to mind

1:08:01 ↗ when you were doing that we there is a

1:08:03 ↗ transportation element and we have just

1:08:06 ↗ almost completed an Mo a Mobility action

1:08:11 ↗ plan for Peds and bikes and all of the

1:08:15 ↗ request all of the recommended policies

1:08:17 ↗ that are in that plan will be

1:08:19 ↗ incorporated into the transportation

1:08:21 ↗ element as well so a lot of the PED bike

1:08:24 ↗ stuff will be mention mentioned in the

1:08:26 ↗ transportation

1:08:27 ↗ element okay so which leads me to do you

1:08:32 ↗ still want that to be a separate goal or

1:08:33 ↗ is that something that could remain a

1:08:35 ↗ policy if it's going to be out outlined

1:08:38 ↗ in a separate in a different place yes

1:08:41 ↗ I'm fine with with a policy okay well

1:08:44 ↗ with the goal as it is okay oh with the

1:08:46 ↗ goal as it is okay all

1:08:49 ↗ right okay

1:08:54 ↗ seven yes you read that it reads more

1:08:57 ↗ like a statement yeah it doesn't

1:08:59 ↗ statement like a goal it's seven a goal

1:09:01 ↗ okay you know and I don't know will

1:09:03 ↗ improve transation will

1:09:07 ↗ improve that's like stating something

1:09:09 ↗ versus or just start with improve change

1:09:12 ↗ will to should and you've got your goal

1:09:14 ↗ or you or you could just okay you could

1:09:17 ↗ just start with

1:09:18 ↗ improve

1:09:21 ↗ yeah yeah

1:09:28 ↗ so if we do that

1:09:35 ↗ policies state that again please I

1:09:37 ↗ almost think all of that should be

1:09:38 ↗ policy under six

1:09:42 ↗ but policy under where six under goal

1:09:45 ↗ six it all deals with Transportation oh

1:09:48 ↗ okay yeah make it part of six versus

1:09:50 ↗ having its own so Seven's not a goal is

1:09:52 ↗ that what we're saying no see the city

1:09:54 ↗ got off no no because I I think you're

1:09:56 ↗ talking different that's why I want to

1:09:58 ↗ say what you got on seven because you're

1:09:59 ↗ talking multimodal Transportation then

1:10:01 ↗ you're talking Transportation

1:10:03 ↗ enhancements so they are different

1:10:06 ↗ because you're looking more at you know

1:10:08 ↗ capital investment you know Road

1:10:09 ↗ redesign you know adding you know bike

1:10:13 ↗ paths Etc so I think it's different I

1:10:15 ↗ just you made a change to it but I don't

1:10:17 ↗ know what you said for goal s um okay

1:10:19 ↗ here's another option I'm just going to

1:10:20 ↗ read it out loud how about use transport

1:10:23 ↗ employ use transportation enhancements

1:10:26 ↗ to improve the city's traffic congestion

1:10:28 ↗ and maximize local opportunities to use

1:10:30 ↗ convenient Transit bicycle shuttle

1:10:33 ↗ trolley and pedestrian facilities

1:10:35 ↗ improved linkages to these facilities

1:10:37 ↗ will provide access to Transportation

1:10:39 ↗ Alternatives wow that'll work

1:10:44 ↗ fine okay Joan saw shaking oh I I just

1:10:48 ↗ look at a goal as being short one short

1:10:53 ↗ idea in all the policies to go into

1:10:55 ↗ under it I think that makes it more

1:10:57 ↗ complicated um would you all be okay if

1:11:00 ↗ I tried to just condense that a

1:11:04 ↗ bit or use or use it as goal seven do

1:11:08 ↗ exactly what you did with Goal six and

1:11:09 ↗ put all those other things underneath as

1:11:12 ↗ a as policy I don't

1:11:17 ↗ know each policy could be you could just

1:11:20 ↗ have a simple statement and one policy

1:11:23 ↗ could be uh improved C

1:11:25 ↗ City's traffic congestion second policy

1:11:28 ↗ maximize opportunities for Transit

1:11:31 ↗ trolley Etc improve third policy and

1:11:34 ↗ improve linkage to these

1:11:37 ↗ facilities I'm just you just outlined

1:11:39 ↗ the transportation element pretty

1:11:42 ↗ much that you're good so if you want to

1:11:47 ↗ think about it so this is in development

1:11:49 ↗ patterns what matters here is that we

1:11:52 ↗ have Transit oriented B iCal pedestrian

1:11:57 ↗ friendly

1:11:58 ↗ development that it's all

1:12:04 ↗ linked the yeah that's really the two

1:12:07 ↗ things everything else is

1:12:08 ↗ about having those there and having it

1:12:13 ↗ linked so maybe we can try to reward

1:12:16 ↗ both of those to just have a goal that

1:12:18 ↗ just says that

1:12:21 ↗ okay so one goal that says that oh you

1:12:25 ↗ can make it the having it having the

1:12:28 ↗ development that supports intermodel and

1:12:31 ↗ having it linked as a as a second

1:12:35 ↗ goal and maybe the third one could

1:12:38 ↗ be

1:12:41 ↗ uh make sure that all Transportation

1:12:45 ↗ enhancements meet that but that

1:12:47 ↗ definitely belongs in transportation

1:12:50 ↗ Mobility not Transportation I would hope

1:12:53 ↗ we're going to look at this again we are

1:12:55 ↗ PA so we are let's put what we think is

1:12:58 ↗ here then when we look at transportation

1:13:00 ↗ we can either put in take out change and

1:13:03 ↗ I think do you know is transportation

1:13:05 ↗ come before this comes before

1:13:08 ↗ Transportation comes before this so

1:13:10 ↗ Transportation when we look at the

1:13:12 ↗ transportation element that comes back

1:13:14 ↗ in July I believe that comes to you all

1:13:16 ↗ for the first time so you can look at

1:13:18 ↗ that and then you'll see the land you

1:13:19 ↗ sell them in again and you can say you

1:13:21 ↗ know what after looking at

1:13:22 ↗ Transportation maybe we need to take

1:13:24 ↗ this out or adjust Ed or something like

1:13:26 ↗ that or maybe when you get six put

1:13:29 ↗ together it just works that seven will

1:13:32 ↗ be part of policies and it will be okay

1:13:35 ↗ I mean okay it's kind of hard to look at

1:13:37 ↗ that now and not see the transportation

1:13:38 ↗ and what exactly is going to go into it

1:13:40 ↗ so you have this tendency to want put

1:13:43 ↗ more in that is really necessary than

1:13:46 ↗ when you see the transportation element

1:13:48 ↗ it's true can we also refer to Mobility

1:13:50 ↗ as opposed to

1:13:52 ↗ Transportation Mobility as opposed to

1:13:54 ↗ transportation

1:13:55 ↗ sure so it's more all in are you when

1:13:58 ↗ you think Transportation are you

1:13:59 ↗ thinking Automotive as opposed to that's

1:14:02 ↗ something that's carrying that's

1:14:03 ↗ transporting something as opposed to the

1:14:05 ↗ ability to move from point A to point B

1:14:07 ↗ okay so Mobility enhancements rather

1:14:09 ↗ than

1:14:13 ↗ Transportation the person doesn't

1:14:15 ↗ transport anything usually but yet they

1:14:17 ↗ move

1:14:21 ↗ okay okay so I'm going to we talked

1:14:23 ↗ about number six I'm going to Short it

1:14:25 ↗ rework it into the other half into

1:14:27 ↗ policies goal number seven I'm kind of

1:14:29 ↗ going to leave as is except for the very

1:14:30 ↗ small changes we've made for now until

1:14:34 ↗ we see the transportation element am I

1:14:35 ↗ right yes yeah

1:14:41 ↗ okay oh

1:14:43 ↗ yeah okay these two are not in your

1:14:46 ↗ packet these two are required they're

1:14:49 ↗ new and required by GMA this year and we

1:14:52 ↗ don't have any polic well that's not

1:14:53 ↗ true we have some policies to support

1:14:55 ↗ them but I just wanted to run them by

1:14:57 ↗ you we need to flush them out a bit more

1:15:00 ↗ but one is to ensure development through

1:15:02 ↗ plans policies and regulations that

1:15:04 ↗ provide physical social and mental

1:15:06 ↗ well-being so that all people can live

1:15:08 ↗ healthier and more active lives this has

1:15:10 ↗ to do with healthy communities and the

1:15:12 ↗ initiative by the

1:15:13 ↗ state what does that mean it means make

1:15:19 ↗ sidewalks so people sidewalks sidewalks

1:15:21 ↗ available bike Lanes it's a lot of it's

1:15:23 ↗ non-motorized some of it has to do with

1:15:25 ↗ just promoting physical activity with

1:15:27 ↗ through soccer fields or programs that

1:15:29 ↗ you have in your city some of it has to

1:15:31 ↗ do with eating healthy foods so

1:15:33 ↗ providing Community Gardens um for

1:15:36 ↗ people or making information available

1:15:39 ↗ and about nutrition it's pretty it's

1:15:41 ↗ pretty broad so that's why it needs to

1:15:43 ↗ be fleshed out but I wanted to let you

1:15:45 ↗ guys know that when I come back next

1:15:46 ↗ time it's there will be more information

1:15:48 ↗ in there about this but it's coming okay

1:15:52 ↗ okay

1:15:55 ↗ all right the next one is Central

1:15:59 ↗ isqua the one of our goals was to get

1:16:02 ↗ that designated as a regional growth

1:16:05 ↗ Center and we have taken step one which

1:16:10 ↗ is we nominated it as an urban center

1:16:14 ↗ the growth management planning Council

1:16:16 ↗ recommended approval of that King County

1:16:19 ↗ approved it it's being ratified by the

1:16:21 ↗ cities right now so by the end of the

1:16:23 ↗ summer it should be an urban center

1:16:25 ↗ which means that that's going to happen

1:16:26 ↗ before our plan is done so we're going

1:16:28 ↗ to have to include some more policies

1:16:30 ↗ about being an urban center and what

1:16:32 ↗ that means so for right now I have in

1:16:34 ↗ there as a placeholder focus and promote

1:16:35 ↗ office housing and Retail development in

1:16:37 ↗ the central isqua urban center

1:16:42 ↗ okay moving on to a different category

1:16:45 ↗ resource

1:16:47 ↗ lands maintain opportunities for

1:16:50 ↗ Agricultural and resource land uses or

1:16:52 ↗ acttiv there's a comment in the wrong

1:16:54 ↗ place

1:16:55 ↗ land uses or activities encourage

1:16:57 ↗ combatible compatible uses adjacent to

1:17:00 ↗ Resource lands which support the use of

1:17:02 ↗ the resource and minimize conflicts

1:17:05 ↗ among

1:17:09 ↗ uses

1:17:13 ↗ okay you need do you need do so this the

1:17:17 ↗ state requires and you may have to um

1:17:19 ↗ beef this up a bit but the state

1:17:21 ↗ requires that we identify agricultural

1:17:23 ↗ lands and we do what we can to preserve

1:17:25 ↗ those um go ahead the other thing um the

1:17:29 ↗ mining areas that we have those are

1:17:31 ↗ protected by the state the their

1:17:33 ↗ resource lands the agricultur lands res

1:17:35 ↗ U mining lands and I think um like

1:17:37 ↗ different kinds of fish habitat that are

1:17:40 ↗ resources of the state they wanted to be

1:17:42 ↗ sure that As Cities grew that they

1:17:44 ↗ didn't grow right over the state

1:17:46 ↗ resources um of um so that we had to

1:17:49 ↗ have our own a special mining Zone to

1:17:51 ↗ protect the mining area up there and

1:17:54 ↗ when we when Lakeside went to redevelop

1:17:56 ↗ it or have plans to redevelop it we had

1:17:58 ↗ to be really careful how we did that

1:18:00 ↗ because the state considers those to be

1:18:02 ↗ protected uses um and so this is a GMA

1:18:05 ↗ requirement um that we you know continue

1:18:08 ↗ to keep in the plan so that we're

1:18:10 ↗ consistent with it so doesn't King

1:18:13 ↗ County have a Nonet loss policy on uh

1:18:16 ↗ they might they might be Reed

1:18:18 ↗ agricultural area shouldn't we consider

1:18:21 ↗ I don't know how much agricultural area

1:18:23 ↗ we have left but shouldn't trying to

1:18:25 ↗ protect what we have yeah we don't have

1:18:27 ↗ anything zoned that way I know we still

1:18:29 ↗ we we allow Hobby Farms and that kind of

1:18:32 ↗ thing but we don't actually have um

1:18:34 ↗ production Farms per se we're really

1:18:37 ↗ good about um you know pea patches

1:18:40 ↗ Community Gardens we're opening up we're

1:18:41 ↗ trying to allow because we're so close

1:18:43 ↗ to the rural line we know that there's

1:18:45 ↗ still a lot of rural uses right outside

1:18:47 ↗ our boundary that we want to be sure are

1:18:50 ↗ um are kept alive and kept feasible and

1:18:53 ↗ and um and of course our Farmers Market

1:18:55 ↗ we're bringing all that agricultural in

1:18:58 ↗ so our community can access it as well

1:19:00 ↗ so we're there's probably other ways

1:19:02 ↗ that we can um discuss and have policies

1:19:05 ↗ for this to make sure that we continue

1:19:06 ↗ on with

1:19:11 ↗ that we are two-thirds of the way

1:19:14 ↗ through the goals all

1:19:17 ↗ right changing topics again Regional

1:19:21 ↗ coordination and annexation

1:19:25 ↗ goal 11 work with local and Regional

1:19:28 ↗ agencies

1:19:29 ↗ too that just needs to be filled out it

1:19:33 ↗ wasn't yeah that kind of looks like an

1:19:36 ↗ incomplete

1:19:37 ↗ statement that's a goal right no I can't

1:19:40 ↗ remember what happened but I think I was

1:19:41 ↗ struggling with it a bit going through

1:19:43 ↗ the policies and it already listed

1:19:45 ↗ things it just wasn't coming together

1:19:48 ↗ but that needs to be there to work with

1:19:51 ↗ local and Regional agencies

1:19:55 ↗ you that's a defined term yada yada yada

1:19:58 ↗ it is won work well together um so

1:20:01 ↗ that'll be beefed up uh 12 Annex areas

1:20:04 ↗ within the city's Urban growth area to

1:20:06 ↗ ensure compatibility with City standards

1:20:08 ↗ and development regulations while

1:20:10 ↗ providing for provision of the city's

1:20:11 ↗ level of service for public services

1:20:13 ↗ public facilities and concurrent

1:20:15 ↗ Transportation facilities so don't Annex

1:20:18 ↗ unless you have the facilities and the

1:20:19 ↗ services to actually do it how many are

1:20:22 ↗ if you can't provide that would work out

1:20:24 ↗ great don't Annex until you have the

1:20:26 ↗ services there's your goal you like that

1:20:29 ↗ that's very in my opinion sweet and

1:20:32 ↗ simple but that's not what it says

1:20:35 ↗ though it says it's almost a it's a

1:20:37 ↗ requirement to Annex the way I read this

1:20:40 ↗ yeah that's what I read right it says

1:20:41 ↗ you're going to Annex areas and then you

1:20:43 ↗ Ure we have you're supposed to Annex you

1:20:46 ↗ have identified potential annexation

1:20:48 ↗ areas that you are supposed to Annex

1:20:50 ↗ within a 20-year period right that was

1:20:52 ↗ part of GMA that everything in the urban

1:20:55 ↗ line would be taken care of by an urban

1:20:57 ↗ city and the rest would be the county

1:20:59 ↗ and they would take care of that how

1:21:01 ↗ many Annex areas do we have remaining

1:21:03 ↗ other than our two if if the state park

1:21:06 ↗ goes through

1:21:07 ↗ two East East cger Mountain and the King

1:21:11 ↗ County Island which is right near the

1:21:12 ↗ isqua shop the 990 or

1:21:18 ↗ yeah so I I can shorten it and still get

1:21:22 ↗ what's required in there yeah yeah is

1:21:25 ↗ good but it it is very complicated to

1:21:27 ↗ read

1:21:32 ↗ okay and if if we're redoing the whole

1:21:35 ↗ thing M and if there's only

1:21:39 ↗ two maybe you should just

1:21:43 ↗ identify we probably would in the

1:21:45 ↗ discussion yes and the

1:21:47 ↗ polic the policies which I didn't bring

1:21:50 ↗ tonight just because okay this is a lot

1:21:52 ↗ to start with as a newbie okay just

1:21:55 ↗ yeah um Foster cooperation with all

1:21:58 ↗ affected

1:21:59 ↗ parties is that not a policy the Foster

1:22:01 ↗ cooperation see that'd be a policy under

1:22:05 ↗ annexation okay yeah I I don't see that

1:22:07 ↗ as a separate

1:22:11 ↗ goal we

1:22:15 ↗ go

1:22:18 ↗ sustainability when did when was this

1:22:20 ↗ added two years ago 2009 maybe okay this

1:22:24 ↗ is relatively new the sustainability

1:22:26 ↗ section um incorporate sustainable

1:22:29 ↗ Community Development as an integral

1:22:31 ↗ part of all city and Community functions

1:22:34 ↗ to ensure isqua ability to meet future

1:22:45 ↗ needs sustainable means to it lasts

1:22:49 ↗ forever what it is

1:22:53 ↗ defined you do it right over

1:22:55 ↗ there because we had that same

1:22:57 ↗ discussion and sustainable and land use

1:23:00 ↗ is

1:23:01 ↗ so may have of theability

1:23:05 ↗ indicators that we did couple years back

1:23:09 ↗ is that ring a bell where we me the

1:23:11 ↗ website said things that matter

1:23:13 ↗ measuring things that matter and uh

1:23:16 ↗ there was maybe 13 um but we're hoping

1:23:20 ↗ to put those uh indicators in the comp

1:23:22 ↗ plan so that they're part of the

1:23:28 ↗ overarching land use Vision so what are

1:23:30 ↗ we looking at sustainability we just

1:23:31 ↗ looked this up this week sustainable

1:23:34 ↗ development in there okay am I in the

1:23:37 ↗ bleeper um sustainable development is

1:23:40 ↗ development that meets the needs of the

1:23:42 ↗ present without compromising the ability

1:23:45 ↗ of future generations to meet their own

1:23:48 ↗ needs by considering current and

1:23:50 ↗ potential economic environmental and

1:23:53 ↗ social issues so so again it's the three

1:23:55 ↗ parts of the sustainability um stool if

1:23:58 ↗ you will economic environmental and

1:24:01 ↗ social

1:24:03 ↗ sustainability and we will be going

1:24:05 ↗ through definitions later on in the year

1:24:07 ↗ if people want to update that at all

1:24:09 ↗ that's totally

1:24:11 ↗ okay so the questions that come up with

1:24:13 ↗ me on this one is when you throw the

1:24:14 ↗ word community in there so we're talking

1:24:16 ↗ about difference of Community

1:24:18 ↗ Development versus development in

1:24:20 ↗ general and Community functions so again

1:24:22 ↗ I get a little confused on function

1:24:24 ↗ and and so is a community function

1:24:27 ↗ salmon days or is it you know Power and

1:24:30 ↗ Water um and and so how that in the

1:24:34 ↗ community uh they say Community

1:24:36 ↗ Development are we still talking about

1:24:39 ↗ development of you know of a private

1:24:42 ↗ developer are we talking about you know

1:24:44 ↗ City facilities and you know so I think

1:24:47 ↗ you got my point

1:24:58 ↗ and honestly I think that's going to

1:24:59 ↗ require some more clarification on our

1:25:01 ↗ part as well so we'll go back and talk

1:25:04 ↗ to the folks who helped us with

1:25:07 ↗ this clarify but yeah very good points

1:25:11 ↗ I'm you know I I can't say that I don't

1:25:14 ↗ like it because sustainability is my

1:25:16 ↗ thing but to me it's just so vague that

1:25:21 ↗ if we really understood what we meant

1:25:22 ↗ there you know it's the old comp plan

1:25:25 ↗ plus a lot of other things that should

1:25:27 ↗ be this should be the heading on top of

1:25:29 ↗ everything else and then we develop the

1:25:33 ↗ the economic the social and the

1:25:35 ↗ environmental element of it and then we

1:25:38 ↗ link it all together so that it's it all

1:25:40 ↗ match so I guess it's fine it's just do

1:25:44 ↗ you think we should match put the three

1:25:46 ↗ pieces in the goal I you know I I would

1:25:49 ↗ like to see that because that's why I

1:25:51 ↗ was kind of doubtful until you read the

1:25:53 ↗ definition because most people equate

1:25:55 ↗ sustain sustainable with environmental

1:25:57 ↗ which is just one of the one of the

1:26:00 ↗ elements of it

1:26:05 ↗ okay any other thoughts on this one so

1:26:08 ↗ we'll we'll clarify development and

1:26:11 ↗ functions be more specific and get

1:26:13 ↗ clarity on that little vague so we'll

1:26:16 ↗ try to uh we'll put in the three

1:26:19 ↗ pieces um economic social and

1:26:22 ↗ environmental and try and focus it a bit

1:26:25 ↗ more is that good we

1:26:28 ↗ good you guys ready for the last

1:26:31 ↗ one okay climate control climate

1:26:36 ↗ control actively address climate change

1:26:39 ↗ by requiring reductions in greenhouse

1:26:41 ↗ gas and carbon

1:26:42 ↗ dioxide whoops and carbon dioxide

1:26:45 ↗ equivalent emissions in all land uses

1:26:47 ↗ and providing incentives for Innovative

1:26:50 ↗ climate Solutions which Advance the city

1:26:52 ↗ towards a Caron neut neutral Community

1:26:55 ↗ as keys to sustainable Community

1:26:57 ↗ Development say it three

1:27:03 ↗ times what I

1:27:08 ↗ thinking as the transportation one so

1:27:12 ↗ Trish just mentioned possibly doing the

1:27:13 ↗ same thing we did to one about

1:27:15 ↗ multimodal and ending at land use land

1:27:18 ↗ use period and then moving some of this

1:27:20 ↗ into policies yes thoughts on that yes

1:27:23 ↗ yeah lots of yeses

1:27:28 ↗ where perhaps actively address climate

1:27:30 ↗ change period I would think that's it

1:27:33 ↗ all the other

1:27:35 ↗ on even that's kind of

1:27:40 ↗ problem I think that that almost swings

1:27:42 ↗ the other

1:27:47 ↗ way

1:27:49 ↗ yeah okay so actually then the second

1:27:52 ↗ half of this would be the

1:27:54 ↗ yeah

1:27:58 ↗ okay

1:28:01 ↗ encourage encourage Innovative climate

1:28:04 ↗ Solutions which Advance the city towards

1:28:06 ↗ a carbon neutral Community as Keys

1:28:08 ↗ period period that's good

1:28:15 ↗ okay

1:28:16 ↗ okay and then what's above would if it

1:28:20 ↗ can't be be addressed in policies yeah

1:28:22 ↗ okay

1:28:28 ↗ okay more goals next steps are there any

1:28:33 ↗ that missed yeah and actually let me

1:28:35 ↗ yeah let me go back is there are there

1:28:36 ↗ any gaping holes in this that you all

1:28:39 ↗ see as far as topics go

1:28:43 ↗ goals can you go back to go 14 yes

1:28:57 ↗ that's too complicated never mind okay

1:28:59 ↗ and what we have for it right now is to

1:29:01 ↗ actually clarify development and

1:29:03 ↗ functions and what those mean and then

1:29:05 ↗ to make it more specific well I I know

1:29:07 ↗ make it more specific but I always like

1:29:08 ↗ that small kind of whatever and then all

1:29:12 ↗ the policies underneath and some of

1:29:14 ↗ those all of those different areas would

1:29:17 ↗ go into policies one by one underneath

1:29:21 ↗ the okay I'll try and shorten a bit too

1:29:24 ↗ but NE and next time I come back I keep

1:29:27 ↗ saying I when we come

1:29:29 ↗ back um policies will be with it so that

1:29:32 ↗ will help to focus it a bit as well okay

1:29:35 ↗ okay but I will try and shorten it just

1:29:36 ↗ a bit I'm all for that oh but I know we

1:29:39 ↗ talked about all the different things

1:29:41 ↗ that go into

1:29:42 ↗ sustainable uh but all of those can be

1:29:44 ↗ underneath as policies incorporating

1:29:47 ↗ into a

1:29:49 ↗ big

1:29:51 ↗ okay goal okay

1:29:55 ↗ so I we have a do we have a category

1:30:00 ↗ that

1:30:01 ↗ covers raran areas and things like

1:30:05 ↗ thatal environment the first one is that

1:30:08 ↗ the first one that's first so that's I

1:30:11 ↗ mean in the old comp plan that's the

1:30:13 ↗ only one the area where fish protection

1:30:16 ↗ raran

1:30:18 ↗ areas and the shoreline management plan

1:30:20 ↗ is considered an element of the

1:30:21 ↗ comprehensive plan and that was just

1:30:24 ↗ updated in 2013 so it's covered there

1:30:26 ↗ mhm as

1:30:30 ↗ well okay any other thoughts

1:30:35 ↗ okay next step no not yet next steps so

1:30:40 ↗ we'll make the changes that we talked

1:30:42 ↗ about

1:30:44 ↗ tonight um we will add the policies to

1:30:48 ↗ support the goals so that next time it's

1:30:50 ↗ a little bit easier for you all to

1:30:51 ↗ relate to okay here's the policy here's

1:30:53 ↗ what it's really talking about here's

1:30:54 ↗ what we're going to do um and ensure

1:30:57 ↗ consistency with State Regional and

1:30:58 ↗ County requirements to make sure that

1:31:00 ↗ we're not going to get trouble anywhere

1:31:02 ↗ there review these with other

1:31:04 ↗ departments as well so the

1:31:05 ↗ sustainability section talk to them

1:31:07 ↗ about that for a while and

1:31:08 ↗ transportation maybe talk to them about

1:31:09 ↗ that for a while and then we will come

1:31:12 ↗ back September 11th is the date that we

1:31:14 ↗ have right now but land use is kind of a

1:31:16 ↗ big one so we're hoping maybe a little

1:31:17 ↗ bit sooner than that um especially you

1:31:20 ↗ know so that you all don't forget where

1:31:22 ↗ we were and and we don't have to retrace

1:31:25 ↗ all of our steps so uh that's where we

1:31:28 ↗ are for now any questions about process

1:31:31 ↗ well only that you have already that you

1:31:33 ↗ have in June a second review right I

1:31:38 ↗ don't think so I hope this June second

1:31:41 ↗ June 12th land use element second

1:31:47 ↗ review there you go we looked at it many

1:31:49 ↗ times today and didn't see it we said

1:31:51 ↗ really September 11th the first time we

1:31:53 ↗ kep on to the second P gone wow what

1:31:55 ↗ happened to the summer so we'll be back

1:31:56 ↗ on June 12th we'll be back with the

1:32:00 ↗ goals revised goals and the policies

1:32:02 ↗ with it how about that okay I won't be

1:32:04 ↗ here yeah you went from four months to

1:32:07 ↗ one

1:32:10 ↗ month might want you might want to look

1:32:13 ↗ at maybe giving yourself some more time

1:32:15 ↗ because it's the largest one so maybe

1:32:18 ↗ move it into July or something we'll

1:32:20 ↗ look at it we'll come back soon yeah

1:32:22 ↗ because our goal was not to have you all

1:32:24 ↗ have extra meetings yeah because we know

1:32:26 ↗ that can be a drag in the summer even

1:32:28 ↗ though it's fun it's really fun oh yeah

1:32:30 ↗ but you know summer is kind of okay good

1:32:33 ↗ thought and one more do you have any

1:32:36 ↗ questions about this one more thing I

1:32:38 ↗ wanted to show you all I was going to

1:32:40 ↗ show them like the real is that a scary

1:32:44 ↗ thing ah slideshow

1:32:47 ↗ um if any of you were

1:32:50 ↗ curious um I have it in my little binder

1:32:54 ↗ that I walk around with because I think

1:32:56 ↗ of it as you know my my mine my comp

1:33:00 ↗ plan um if any of you are interested or

1:33:03 ↗ maybe you've already checked it out um

1:33:06 ↗ this isn't on the homepage on what our

1:33:09 ↗ comp plan that isqua comp plan looks

1:33:13 ↗ like um you can find it on our website

1:33:17 ↗ if I can oh there it is what a great

1:33:19 ↗ website um it's

1:33:21 ↗ under um document Center I blinking and

1:33:25 ↗ blinking it's under your government

1:33:27 ↗ document Center and then as you come

1:33:29 ↗ down is it showing there I was going to

1:33:31 ↗ say is it just up here um

1:33:35 ↗ development um the central isqua plan is

1:33:38 ↗ here but I'm going to close that real

1:33:40 ↗ quick um the comprehensive plan is here

1:33:43 ↗ and as you see Oldtown has its very own

1:33:45 ↗ sub area plan but what you want to look

1:33:47 ↗ at what we're updating now is volume one

1:33:50 ↗ and volume one is the uh growth

1:33:53 ↗ management Act required elements and

1:33:55 ↗ they're all here um from the intro all

1:33:59 ↗ the way to Human Services and when uh

1:34:02 ↗ the the year is the last time probably

1:34:04 ↗ that they were amended and uploaded so

1:34:06 ↗ for example the land use that we just

1:34:08 ↗ looked

1:34:09 ↗ at is a lot longer than what we've gone

1:34:13 ↗ through but we didn't want to overwhelm

1:34:15 ↗ you with all the pieces and parts that

1:34:18 ↗ are existing in the land you element as

1:34:20 ↗ Kristen said in the introduction when we

1:34:22 ↗ did climate change we we put it in there

1:34:24 ↗ when we did sustainability we put it in

1:34:26 ↗ there when we did the tree canopy we put

1:34:27 ↗ it in there and now it's all in there

1:34:29 ↗ but it's really hard to find sometimes

1:34:31 ↗ we know it's in there but you know it's

1:34:33 ↗ like or oregano it's in there but we

1:34:35 ↗ just we don't always know exactly the

1:34:37 ↗ logical place where it is so if you you

1:34:40 ↗ know have some time in the next couple

1:34:42 ↗ of weeks or months you might want to

1:34:44 ↗ peruse um because a lot of the

1:34:46 ↗ discussion that's in the beginning we're

1:34:48 ↗ actually going to take the discussion

1:34:49 ↗ let's say of the tree canopy and put

1:34:51 ↗ that into the natural environment piece

1:34:53 ↗ instead of having it just be out there

1:34:54 ↗ as a discussion we want to actually link

1:34:56 ↗ it with one of the goals because a lot

1:34:58 ↗ of people say well you talk about the

1:34:59 ↗ tree canopy but what does that mean

1:35:01 ↗ you're not telling us to preserve or

1:35:03 ↗ protect or make it healthier you're just

1:35:05 ↗ sort of talking about it and so we're

1:35:07 ↗ going to we're going to really tighten

1:35:08 ↗ it up a lot in this go around so I

1:35:11 ↗ wanted to share that with you um the

1:35:13 ↗ next any questions about that about how

1:35:15 ↗ to find the comp plan online okay the

1:35:18 ↗ next piece in two weeks we're going to

1:35:20 ↗ meet again and when Kathy sends you out

1:35:23 ↗ the and and I'm I'll make sure she sends

1:35:25 ↗ it out in PDF too when she sends that

1:35:28 ↗ out it's really important for you to

1:35:29 ↗ help us by rsvping if you're going to be

1:35:32 ↗ there or not because um it's going to be

1:35:35 ↗ a public hearing so we're going to need

1:35:36 ↗ enough voters um to get through the

1:35:39 ↗ meeting and so it's just really

1:35:40 ↗ important for us to know so we can plan

1:35:42 ↗ ahead and if we have to you know we hate

1:35:44 ↗ to start calling people and being

1:35:45 ↗ annoying so if you're able to RSVP to

1:35:47 ↗ Kathy as soon as possible that is so

1:35:50 ↗ super wonderful and again if you want a

1:35:52 ↗ paper copy if you know already you're

1:35:54 ↗ always going to want a paper copy let me

1:35:57 ↗ know or let Kathy know and we'll always

1:35:59 ↗ send you one but if not if you can do it

1:36:01 ↗ online that's super great too you know

1:36:03 ↗ no problem either way um just let us

1:36:05 ↗ know because we want to help you to help

1:36:08 ↗ us be successful we want to just be a

1:36:10 ↗ super partner um next meeting is the

1:36:14 ↗ 22nd um part of it will be utilities and

1:36:17 ↗ services element which is a really

1:36:19 ↗ exciting one I think water sewers storm

1:36:23 ↗ wow just doesn't get any better than

1:36:25 ↗ that and a public hearing which will be

1:36:28 ↗ exciting for people that haven't been

1:36:29 ↗ through one and it's a comprehensive

1:36:31 ↗ plan Amendment and it's about the Kahani

1:36:34 ↗ potential annexation area which I know

1:36:36 ↗ is very near and dear to some of your

1:36:38 ↗ hearts and we have an interlocal

1:36:40 ↗ agreement with samamish that we're um um

1:36:44 ↗ transferring it out of isaa paa after

1:36:47 ↗ many many many many many times of trying

1:36:51 ↗ to Annex them into our sweet City

1:36:54 ↗ um heavy sigh I had to take a moment

1:36:57 ↗ there um it's an interesting public

1:37:01 ↗ Hearing in that the council has already

1:37:04 ↗ got an interlocal agreement with

1:37:07 ↗ samamish I've been here 20 some years

1:37:10 ↗ and I think this is only the second time

1:37:12 ↗ that the council has asked us to do

1:37:15 ↗ something that they've already kind of

1:37:16 ↗ figured out where they want to go I hate

1:37:19 ↗ that to be your first one I hate that

1:37:22 ↗ but of course it's not up to me but I

1:37:24 ↗ just want you to know it's not usually

1:37:26 ↗ you're not usually a rubber stamp you're

1:37:28 ↗ not because I wouldn't we wouldn't stand

1:37:30 ↗ for that what's the goal of that meeting

1:37:34 ↗ the pro the process has to um to move it

1:37:37 ↗ out of the comprehensive plan it has to

1:37:39 ↗ go through the the actual process of a

1:37:41 ↗ public hearing a staff report the

1:37:42 ↗ findings of fact public comment even

1:37:45 ↗ though the council has said this is what

1:37:48 ↗ the end goal is we still have to go

1:37:50 ↗ through the process just because you

1:37:52 ↗ know we're America and you have to

1:37:53 ↗ follow the public process the public can

1:37:54 ↗ come in and say you guys screwed up they

1:37:57 ↗ can come and say anything they want in

1:37:59 ↗ fact you know you guys can say no we

1:38:02 ↗ don't think we you can recommend no you

1:38:04 ↗ don't think it's a good idea that's

1:38:06 ↗ perfectly okay that's perfectly within

1:38:07 ↗ your purview I would think that was

1:38:09 ↗ amazing if you did that because most all

1:38:12 ↗ the time Council goes with what planning

1:38:14 ↗ policy commission says which is really a

1:38:16 ↗ a good uh um a good relationship that

1:38:19 ↗ you all have with Council um sometimes

1:38:21 ↗ they they don't go with your recommend

1:38:23 ↗ but um it's rare it's very rare which I

1:38:27 ↗ if you're interested we earlier

1:38:29 ↗ mentioned that the city has are going

1:38:33 ↗ through the process to make it an urban

1:38:36 ↗ center

1:38:38 ↗ yes and the planning policy commission

1:38:42 ↗ recommended that we not do that right

1:38:45 ↗ twice and you did twice we did that and

1:38:49 ↗ basically what the city and we it long

1:38:52 ↗ complicated I won't try to get into the

1:38:54 ↗ details but uh the reason is in my

1:38:56 ↗ opinion the city decided to do it

1:38:58 ↗ because it's a way to get

1:39:00 ↗ money do

1:39:02 ↗ you I can what an urban center is okay

1:39:06 ↗ an urban center 101 um there's a um part

1:39:11 ↗ of the central area in fact do you all

1:39:13 ↗ remember where the central area is it's

1:39:15 ↗ the the flat area both sides of the city

1:39:17 ↗ limits and there's a part of the central

1:39:19 ↗ area that we call the urban core it has

1:39:22 ↗ it allows the highest buildings and the

1:39:25 ↗ most density and um a mix of uses

1:39:28 ↗ residential and Commercial and when we

1:39:30 ↗ were looking at the growth targets that

1:39:33 ↗ we knew we had to take we didn't want to

1:39:34 ↗ put them in any of the residential areas

1:39:36 ↗ that are existing and so we looked long

1:39:38 ↗ and hard which is why it took us so long

1:39:39 ↗ to get through the plan where do we put

1:39:42 ↗ the next 20,000 jobs and 7,000 housing

1:39:48 ↗ units that many housing units a lot a

1:39:52 ↗ lot um how do we accommodate those from

1:39:55 ↗ now until 2031 without um uh harming the

1:40:00 ↗ existing communities that we have and so

1:40:02 ↗ we looked at Central isqua we looked at

1:40:04 ↗ all the parking lots we looked at no

1:40:06 ↗ residential and thought this would be a

1:40:08 ↗ really cool mixed juice Urban really

1:40:11 ↗ Nifty place if we do it right and so

1:40:14 ↗ that's where the standards came in and

1:40:16 ↗ correct we we looked at how many units

1:40:19 ↗ we could put there and if we just did

1:40:21 ↗ the growth targets it was would be fine

1:40:23 ↗ it would be lovely but it wouldn't have

1:40:25 ↗ gotten us any other benefits as far as

1:40:28 ↗ getting funds or getting grants or even

1:40:29 ↗ being eligible for any of that and so we

1:40:31 ↗ thought if we were to accommodate if we

1:40:33 ↗ were to fiddle with the zoning and the

1:40:35 ↗ ifin structure and take just a little

1:40:37 ↗ bit

1:40:38 ↗ more Not only would we be that would

1:40:41 ↗ look pretty much the same the same

1:40:42 ↗ height the same density but we would

1:40:44 ↗ also be in this new category of urban

1:40:47 ↗ center in one definition and regional

1:40:49 ↗ growth Center in another definition

1:40:50 ↗ they're kind of the same and we would be

1:40:53 ↗ eligible all of a sudden for another

1:40:55 ↗ funding stream to help us with the roads

1:40:57 ↗ to help us with the overcrossing to help

1:40:59 ↗ us with the green necklace of parks and

1:41:01 ↗ infrastructure pieces that we need

1:41:03 ↗ because growth can't play for all of it

1:41:05 ↗ the city has to pay for part of it and

1:41:06 ↗ so we went into it thinking that well we

1:41:09 ↗ know we're going to have to do growth

1:41:10 ↗ Targets in another certain amount of

1:41:12 ↗ years why don't we already provide for

1:41:15 ↗ that in our Center so that next time

1:41:17 ↗ when we have to do growth targets we

1:41:19 ↗ don't have to start looking around at

1:41:20 ↗ those neighborhoods going wow the next

1:41:22 ↗ set of growth Target where are we going

1:41:23 ↗ to put them we already have a place and

1:41:25 ↗ so that was the thinking of the

1:41:27 ↗ community is we we'll just add a little

1:41:30 ↗ bit more than the targets and have it

1:41:31 ↗ all be in this flat area where we can

1:41:34 ↗ bike and Transit and walk and mix of

1:41:37 ↗ uses and get rid of maybe some of the

1:41:39 ↗ parking lots that are there and build on

1:41:41 ↗ those to to make a really neat viable um

1:41:44 ↗ area and the planning policy commission

1:41:46 ↗ thought it was too much and too high and

1:41:48 ↗ too dense and and that's a perfectly

1:41:51 ↗ good way to think about it and Council

1:41:53 ↗ looked at in fact Council met with you

1:41:54 ↗ all twice um just to be sure they

1:41:57 ↗ understood exactly where you all were

1:41:59 ↗ coming from and they were real

1:42:00 ↗ deliberate and pondering it uh took them

1:42:02 ↗ a long time and they it wasn't a 70 vote

1:42:06 ↗ either besides the exra funding you

1:42:09 ↗ needed that density in order to get mass

1:42:12 ↗ transportation out here and so the

1:42:15 ↗ thought was in in 2031 we would have the

1:42:19 ↗ connecting rail to to support that but

1:42:22 ↗ you needed the people in a certain area

1:42:24 ↗ around that connection so you had two

1:42:27 ↗ reasons for for it but and on that note

1:42:31 ↗ that's um another one of our very

1:42:33 ↗ favorite things to show people on the

1:42:38 ↗ website if it'll let me is it g to let

1:42:44 ↗ me come on you is the central

1:42:50 ↗ plan you're not going to okay we're

1:42:52 ↗ going to back up this is the screen with

1:42:54 ↗ documents again and if you go back under

1:42:57 ↗ development and you go to Central plan

1:43:00 ↗ there's a lot of of the information that

1:43:02 ↗ we did and the um the standards are

1:43:05 ↗ under development and design there the

1:43:07 ↗ development standards and the design

1:43:09 ↗ standards but the actual plan is way

1:43:11 ↗ down here at the

1:43:14 ↗ bottom and it's um short it's a lot

1:43:17 ↗ shorter than this which is our goal is

1:43:20 ↗ to make this compain with all the

1:43:22 ↗ elements look a lot more like the

1:43:25 ↗ central plan it's got more pictures it's

1:43:27 ↗ got more visuals it's got more um it's

1:43:30 ↗ more user friendly but um just for an

1:43:34 ↗ example um there's the map of it but it

1:43:38 ↗ talks about um all the good people we

1:43:41 ↗ work with the part that I really love is

1:43:43 ↗ each of the areas in the central plan I

1:43:46 ↗ guess I could use the arrows but that

1:43:47 ↗ wouldn't be as fun right is it talks

1:43:50 ↗ about the different districts but it

1:43:52 ↗ talks about the vision for each district

1:43:55 ↗ what's the Western Gateway going to look

1:43:56 ↗ like what do we think about that when

1:43:58 ↗ you first drive into town from from the

1:44:00 ↗ West the hila the hila area and we've

1:44:03 ↗ got we try to to mix pictures and words

1:44:06 ↗ and vision statements so that people

1:44:08 ↗ could kind of imagine what it was going

1:44:09 ↗ to look like in the 20 30e plan um and

1:44:14 ↗ so I think we just did a the community

1:44:17 ↗ did a super job on this if you're really

1:44:19 ↗ excited about the central plan the other

1:44:20 ↗ thing we did for Council because they

1:44:23 ↗ wanted to visualize what's it going to

1:44:24 ↗ look like when the tall buildings start

1:44:26 ↗ popping up in the next 10 to 15 years is

1:44:28 ↗ on that same page there's a

1:44:30 ↗ visualization visualization video that

1:44:33 ↗ you can play and you can kind of control

1:44:35 ↗ you know where the bike path's going to

1:44:37 ↗ go and all of a sudden you'll see them

1:44:38 ↗ going and you'll see the buildings pop

1:44:39 ↗ up and it helps you kind of get one of

1:44:41 ↗ those Google Earth views of what the

1:44:44 ↗ growth might look like might look like

1:44:46 ↗ we can't guarantee exactly how they'll

1:44:47 ↗ build but that's another tool that we

1:44:49 ↗ use to help people visualize 30 years

1:44:53 ↗ any other thoughts or questions or

1:44:55 ↗ anything about what's going to happen in

1:44:57 ↗ the ne um in May 22nd yeah on your list

1:45:00 ↗ here you also list that there's going to

1:45:02 ↗ be a capital facilities element review

1:45:05 ↗ first review right and that right with

1:45:07 ↗ utilities Jason's going to do those too

1:45:09 ↗ those two and a public hearing right and

1:45:12 ↗ those two are going to because they're

1:45:13 ↗ not the huge land use they're a lot

1:45:16 ↗ smaller and concise and that's why we

1:45:17 ↗ thought we could do both of those

1:45:18 ↗ together we will do the public hearing

1:45:21 ↗ first hearing first right and just as

1:45:23 ↗ far as you know is anybody not going to

1:45:26 ↗ be here for the public hearing just

1:45:28 ↗ offand that you know your

1:45:30 ↗ schedules okay we'll do the official

1:45:32 ↗ RSVP thing too but just it's just always

1:45:35 ↗ good to kind of know as we go into it

1:45:37 ↗ how many people are going to be here

1:45:38 ↗ well thanks very much you all have been

1:45:40 ↗ awesome tonight for the first meeting of

1:45:42 ↗ the big update we're not done we have

1:45:45 ↗ election you have elections do you want

1:45:48 ↗ to talk about how that should go I

1:45:51 ↗ forgot about elections

1:45:54 ↗ every year at this time we elect a chair

1:45:58 ↗ and a vice chair and often the election

1:46:01 ↗ may

1:46:02 ↗ seem not to be a kind of a normal

1:46:04 ↗ election because sometimes it's who

1:46:06 ↗ would like to do it and in previous

1:46:08 ↗ years it seems that Joan and Carl just

1:46:11 ↗ keep flipping back and forth on who

1:46:13 ↗ wants to do it which has been

1:46:15 ↗ great and so agreed just to stay where

1:46:18 ↗ we

1:46:20 ↗ were or you could switch or you could

1:46:23 ↗ anybody else could decide they'd want to

1:46:25 ↗ be chairman and I would go out the door

1:46:27 ↗ right now if you got that thought in

1:46:28 ↗ your mind no I like your version of an

1:46:33 ↗ Ila between the two of

1:46:36 ↗ you what does that mean I make a motion

1:46:39 ↗ to your local agreement nominate Carl as

1:46:42 ↗ chair

1:46:45 ↗ and you make a motion are there other

1:46:48 ↗ motions or or other nominations I would

1:46:51 ↗ propose instead that Joan be the

1:46:55 ↗ chair okay so there's a proposal for

1:46:58 ↗ Joan to be the chair and for Carl to be

1:47:01 ↗ the chair and anyone else propose or

1:47:03 ↗ nominate anyone to be the

1:47:06 ↗ chair I nominate

1:47:10 ↗ joh

1:47:13 ↗ okay so do we vote on so there's just

1:47:16 ↗ the two nominations s places if that'll

1:47:18 ↗ make it

1:47:20 ↗ easy visualization

1:47:23 ↗ Carl and I have been here for so long

1:47:26 ↗ and we kind of know the history of of

1:47:29 ↗ everything so I don't think it really

1:47:31 ↗ makes any difference which one is is

1:47:34 ↗ chair because you know when I'm not here

1:47:37 ↗ Carl's going to be you know so it's kind

1:47:39 ↗ of like maybe a dual chair or something

1:47:42 ↗ you know CU it's I think Joel should

1:47:44 ↗ have her

1:47:46 ↗ turn okay should we actually have a vote

1:47:48 ↗ though absolutely we have to have a vote

1:47:51 ↗ just making sure is is there more

1:47:53 ↗ discussion any more

1:47:56 ↗ discussion just to be picky I think we

1:47:58 ↗ have to vote on one position at a time

1:48:00 ↗ so we should do that right and do the

1:48:02 ↗ chair first and then a vice chair

1:48:04 ↗ otherwise right now it's it's I'm glad

1:48:07 ↗ Bill's keeping us in order this is going

1:48:09 ↗ to be good you can do it all one time if

1:48:10 ↗ you have a platform or you have a or a

1:48:13 ↗ cartel oh that means I have to come up

1:48:16 ↗ with uh speech speech and I'm do that

1:48:20 ↗ I've done that don't want to do that

1:48:34 ↗ sounds good there's a slate that's the

1:48:35 ↗ word

1:48:36 ↗ look

1:48:39 ↗ vote before we call for the vote any any

1:48:41 ↗ discussion any

1:48:45 ↗ discussion no discussion then we've got

1:48:48 ↗ a motion is there a second second second

1:48:52 ↗ that we we have a vote for Jon's

1:48:54 ↗ chairman and me as Vice

1:48:58 ↗ chair all in

1:49:01 ↗ favor

1:49:03 ↗ any good job guys there now we're done

1:49:07 ↗ now we can adjourn

1:49:09 ↗ right is there any other business for

1:49:11 ↗ the good of the order anything

1:49:13 ↗ else we'll see everybody on the

1:49:17 ↗ 22nd and if anybody has comments about

1:49:20 ↗ the legal training that you went through

1:49:22 ↗ we're looking for feedback you know was

1:49:24 ↗ it too detailed was it

1:49:27 ↗ too you know any comments that you have

1:49:30 ↗ if you could email them to me or just

1:49:32 ↗ let me know um the uh presenter is

1:49:34 ↗ looking for comments and on how we can

1:49:37 ↗ make it better for the next group for

1:49:39 ↗ next year very

1:49:41 ↗ good excellent you guys are all done

1:49:44 ↗ thank you thank

1:49:51 ↗ you

1:50:21 ↗ V

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