Development Commission · Wednesday, April 16, 2014 · City Council Digest

2. COMMITTEE MEMBERS

Member Roster

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Contacts About Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land use actions Staff Liaison requiring a Level 3 review. The Commission further serves as an Dave Favour, DSD Deputy advisory board to the City Council on land use actions requiring Director council approval (Level 5 review). Email

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Cadence (Seventh At Gilman), SDP13- 8 Presented by: Jerry Lind, Senior Planner Staff Report

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Cadence, PRJ12-00009, SDP13-00005, SH013-00014 DC Staff Report: April 10, 2014

Public Comment

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close to the High School and Middle School, and would provide a ballfield in the general proximity without having to ruin the nearby forest.

Commission Discussion

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1:16 ↗ oh somebody drop

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1:24 ↗ please good evening and welcome to the

1:26 ↗ April 16th meeting of the isqua

1:28 ↗ development Commission

1:30 ↗ uh this is a uh a very interesting

1:33 ↗ occasion for us for a number of reasons

1:35 ↗ uh the first is that this is the first

1:38 ↗ meeting of the development commission

1:39 ↗ that will take place with the under the

1:41 ↗ new guidelines that have been

1:42 ↗ established by the city as a result of

1:44 ↗ their review of the various boards and

1:46 ↗ commissions that uh uh exist in the city

1:48 ↗ of isqua so we're going to be using a

1:50 ↗ little bit different process tonight

1:52 ↗ which I'll U I'll outline for you uh the

1:56 ↗ second is that we are here tonight to

1:58 ↗ consider the application for or what is

2:00 ↗ the first uh the first applicant uh to

2:04 ↗ come forward under the new Central isqua

2:06 ↗ plan so U this is an opportunity to uh

2:10 ↗ consider this and uh to get public

2:12 ↗ feedback and that's the purpose of the

2:14 ↗ meeting so let me tell you how this is

2:16 ↗ going to uh work this evening as I said

2:17 ↗ it's a little bit different for those of

2:19 ↗ you who are familiar with the uh

2:20 ↗ previous uh meetings like this that were

2:22 ↗ called uh oh Lord uh Community

2:26 ↗ conferences this is not a community

2:28 ↗ conference this is considered simply a

2:30 ↗ meeting to consider the application uh

2:33 ↗ to get staff input to hear the applicant

2:36 ↗ to have the opportunity for public input

2:39 ↗ uh after which there will be an

2:40 ↗ opportunity for each of the

2:41 ↗ Commissioners to ask questions seek

2:43 ↗ clarification and to make comments and

2:46 ↗ recommendations uh the way we're going

2:48 ↗ to do this again is a little bit

2:50 ↗ different in that the uh first

2:52 ↗ presentation will be made by the

2:54 ↗ applicant previously the city staff

2:56 ↗ would make the the applica of the uh

2:58 ↗ first presentation it will be made by

3:00 ↗ the applicant uh in this new process uh

3:03 ↗ that will be followed by uh the city

3:06 ↗ staff uh my understanding is that the

3:08 ↗ objective there is in switching the

3:11 ↗ roles is to allow the applicant to make

3:13 ↗ H their full presentation and then the

3:16 ↗ city staff will address issues that were

3:19 ↗ not uh brought up by the uh by the

3:21 ↗ applicant or uh to make comments on what

3:24 ↗ the city feels are different positions

3:26 ↗ from those uh defined by the applicant

3:28 ↗ rather than going through the whole uh

3:30 ↗ the whole list of issues a second

3:33 ↗ time uh after the city staff makes their

3:36 ↗ presentation we'll ask any members of

3:38 ↗ the public who wish to speak to do so uh

3:42 ↗ we ask that when you do if you have

3:43 ↗ desire to speak you come up to the

3:45 ↗ microphone over there and you start by

3:47 ↗ giving your name and your address uh for

3:50 ↗ the record and we would also ask that uh

3:53 ↗ in respect for the unusual number of

3:55 ↗ people we have here tonight and we're

3:56 ↗ delighted with that that you try to hold

3:58 ↗ your comments to about 5 minutes uh so

4:00 ↗ that everybody gets a chance to to speak

4:03 ↗ uh the public comments will be followed

4:05 ↗ by uh comments by the Commissioners uh

4:09 ↗ this will be an opportunity for

4:10 ↗ individual Commissioners to ask

4:11 ↗ questions to seek clarifications to ask

4:13 ↗ members of the public the applicant the

4:15 ↗ city staff for questions and

4:17 ↗ clarifications and it will close with

4:19 ↗ the individual members of the commission

4:21 ↗ uh making their comments on the

4:23 ↗ application as it exists we uh have

4:26 ↗ about two hours scheduled for this

4:27 ↗ tonight and if it goes longer it'll go

4:29 ↗ longer but we'll be here to address

4:31 ↗ everybody's

4:32 ↗ concerns um with that uh I would ask the

4:36 ↗ applicant uh to come up and identify

4:39 ↗ himself oh I'm sorry check that I I see

4:43 ↗ all ready we have to approve minutes I'm

4:45 ↗ sorry just a minute we have for those of

4:48 ↗ you who don't know we have not had a

4:49 ↗ meeting since last August so we're a

4:52 ↗ little rusty here and can I um Mr

4:54 ↗ chairperson have one minute after you've

4:56 ↗ approved the minutes before we start

4:58 ↗ absolutely um so the minutes have been

5:01 ↗ sent to us the minutes for the uh

5:05 ↗ meeting last August and I assume

5:08 ↗ everybody's had a chance to review them

5:09 ↗ so I will ask if there are any

5:11 ↗ clarifications or changes requested by

5:14 ↗ any member of the

5:18 ↗ commission if not can I get a motion to

5:20 ↗ approve I move approval of the August

5:22 ↗ 7th 2013 meeting minutes second any

5:27 ↗ discussion

5:28 ↗ thereof all those in favor I I I all

5:32 ↗ those

5:33 ↗ opposed it'll be shown that the minutes

5:35 ↗ are approved

5:36 ↗ unanimously so good evening I'm Lucy

5:39 ↗ slowman land development manager for the

5:41 ↗ development services department thank

5:43 ↗ you for that excellent redu um

5:45 ↗ introduction you covered many of the

5:46 ↗ same points that I had thought I was

5:49 ↗ going to have to do and I'm delighted I

5:50 ↗ don't the um one the two piece of paper

5:53 ↗ I just wanted to introduce you to the

5:55 ↗ two things that are um that you were

5:57 ↗ handed by staff one is this chart um

6:00 ↗ many of you received that uh this two

6:03 ↗ weeks ago when we did a training it just

6:05 ↗ summarizes the criteria um for review

6:09 ↗ and approval of um the two main permits

6:12 ↗ that um the development commission

6:14 ↗ reviews and the um other chart um is our

6:19 ↗ test case um many of you are familiar

6:22 ↗ with the green sheets um which was an

6:26 ↗ adopted tool and is still in effect if

6:28 ↗ you were reviewing doing a permit

6:30 ↗ outside Central isqua but since that's

6:33 ↗ an adopted tool um we were trying to

6:35 ↗ find something that provided some

6:37 ↗ similar format but was consistent with

6:40 ↗ Central isqua so this is our first try

6:43 ↗ at that we thought we would give it to

6:44 ↗ you tonight so you could take notes on

6:46 ↗ it and begin using it and we um will

6:49 ↗ it'll be an evolving thing as you give

6:51 ↗ us feedback and we see how this

6:54 ↗ works thank you Lucy again I'd like to

6:57 ↗ remind folks that it's been a while

6:59 ↗ since we we've met and the procedures

7:01 ↗ have changed a little bit so you'll have

7:03 ↗ to bear with us we'll uh try to get

7:05 ↗ through this as efficiently as possible

7:07 ↗ so with that said may I ask the uh

7:09 ↗ developer and the applicant to start

7:11 ↗ their

7:13 ↗ presentation

7:20 ↗ commission you'll need to speak closer

7:22 ↗ to the microphone I'm

7:25 ↗ not

7:27 ↗ that's um I'm representing uh lar multif

7:30 ↗ family communities um and since I assume

7:33 ↗ you're willing to make good on that

7:34 ↗ threat to go longer than two hours I'm

7:36 ↗ going to be really brief uh lenar is um

7:40 ↗ was formed in the early 50s as a single

7:42 ↗ family home builder and is Building

7:44 ↗ Homes all over the country uh or has

7:45 ↗ been since that time about three years

7:47 ↗ ago they branched

7:49 ↗ into uh multif family uh communities

7:53 ↗ primarily in the East uh on the

7:55 ↗ primarily in the South

7:58 ↗ um we opened an office in Seattle about

8:01 ↗ a year and a half ago and we currently

8:03 ↗ have three projects TWO Urban infield

8:05 ↗ sites in Seattle and the site that we're

8:07 ↗ going to talk about tonight um in isqua

8:10 ↗ um all three of which are about to move

8:12 ↗ into the construction phase so it's it's

8:14 ↗ a pretty exciting time we're small

8:15 ↗ office but uh we're we're busy um we're

8:19 ↗ really excited to be here tonight to

8:21 ↗ show you this project we were're we're

8:23 ↗ very proud of it um we are also very

8:26 ↗ cognizant of the fact that we're very

8:28 ↗ conspicuous

8:29 ↗ um by virtue of our location and some of

8:33 ↗ the issues around the property and as

8:35 ↗ you suggested Mr Chair by by the fact

8:36 ↗ that we're the first ones through this

8:39 ↗ process um so uh we we suffered I think

8:42 ↗ some of the difficulties of pushing the

8:44 ↗ bow wave um but for the most part I

8:47 ↗ think I'd like to report to you that it

8:49 ↗ has gone incredibly smoothly um that

8:52 ↗ staff has been responsive and has uh

8:56 ↗ been full of Integrity the whole way

8:58 ↗ through and and we're we have a very

9:01 ↗ ambitious calendar and we're we're

9:03 ↗ really close to it and I'm really

9:05 ↗ grateful to staff several of whom are

9:07 ↗ here tonight uh that we were able to

9:09 ↗ work together um toward that toward that

9:11 ↗ goal um I don't think I really have

9:14 ↗ anything else to say I'm going to turn

9:15 ↗ it over to Alan Granger from GGO but

9:18 ↗ actually I do want to introduce um Allan

9:20 ↗ and the rest of his team Michael lipco

9:23 ↗ where is everybody else John

9:25 ↗ Brianna Leslie I'm so sorry um who have

9:29 ↗ been uh remarkably responsive so it's

9:33 ↗ it's been a joint effort we're really

9:41 ↗ pleased

9:43 ↗ okay A little toll than

9:47 ↗ usual I think that'll do my name is Alan

9:50 ↗ Granger I'm a founding principal of GGO

9:53 ↗ Architects uh we are providing uh uh

9:58 ↗ comprehensive Design Services for this

10:00 ↗ project from the Urban Design and site

10:03 ↗ planning architecture landscape

10:05 ↗ architecture and interior design and uh

10:08 ↗ have uh been very pleased to uh have

10:13 ↗ worked in the city of isaka many times

10:16 ↗ uh in the past and have a number of uh

10:20 ↗ projects in in the wings but uh some of

10:22 ↗ which will probably be coming to you

10:24 ↗ shortly

10:26 ↗ also U so we we were faced with a

10:30 ↗ challenge uh with the central isqua plan

10:34 ↗ uh because the process was not defined

10:38 ↗ uh

10:39 ↗ completely uh and yet we were working

10:42 ↗ with an extremely uh comprehensive

10:45 ↗ document uh uh which was uh extremely

10:49 ↗ well uh put together and made it very

10:52 ↗ easy for us to understand the vision and

10:55 ↗ the goals that the city of isqua has

10:58 ↗ that they want to have implemented

11:00 ↗ through this Central uh isqua

11:02 ↗ plan so what I'm going to go through

11:06 ↗ with my presentation tonight is talk

11:08 ↗ about the site some of the constraints

11:11 ↗ of a site I think you all uh understand

11:14 ↗ that there are some issues uh associated

11:17 ↗ with this uh uh tired uh retail uh strip

11:22 ↗ mall development um and then uh address

11:26 ↗ how we are uh

11:30 ↗ uh using those issues to actually shape

11:34 ↗ the development pattern which is uh

11:37 ↗ going to occur on the property we're

11:40 ↗ going to tell you how we are meeting the

11:42 ↗ goals uh and requirements of the

11:44 ↗ centralal plan uh and uh I'll do a

11:48 ↗ summation at the end to let you know

11:49 ↗ that we've sort of Hit the key

11:54 ↗ points

11:56 ↗ um so uh

12:01 ↗ what I'm going to do is just layer on

12:04 ↗ top of this site diagram the different

12:07 ↗ constraints that uh this this property

12:10 ↗ has uh it is not just your regular block

12:14 ↗ uh uh square piece of property we've got

12:17 ↗ uh uh out Parcels uh where the uh

12:22 ↗ Kentucky Fried Chicken and the auto

12:25 ↗ parts uh stor is on Gilman uh and of

12:29 ↗ course the montor school is uh I'm

12:32 ↗ supposed to be sorry I just realized

12:33 ↗ Lucy told me the point where this the

12:36 ↗ montor school down here uh other than

12:39 ↗ that uh we have the the longest Frontage

12:43 ↗ on sth Avenue uh and uh uh the the

12:47 ↗ second Frontage on Northwest

12:51 ↗ Locust uh as you may be aware the site

12:55 ↗ uh and the retail spaces have had uh

12:58 ↗ different uses in the past and those

13:01 ↗ uses have actually left their remnants

13:04 ↗ behind uh so there was a former dry

13:07 ↗ cleaner and that has left a hot spot uh

13:11 ↗ uh in that location uh there was a

13:14 ↗ former gas station uh which has been

13:16 ↗ demolished for quite a long time but

13:18 ↗ that left a tank uh on the location of

13:22 ↗ that site and then where I have unknown

13:25 ↗ there there's actually uh some

13:28 ↗ indication that some of that uh

13:30 ↗ pollution uh has drifted from one part

13:33 ↗ of a site to

13:36 ↗ another sorry I'm going the wrong

13:38 ↗ way uh you also know that uh we're

13:42 ↗ fronting on a isqua creek and uh

13:46 ↗ although there has been a plan for many

13:49 ↗ years to

13:51 ↗ repair uh what is actually a a a breach

13:54 ↗ in the west side uh of isok Creek uh

13:58 ↗ that has has uh never been put into

14:01 ↗ place and so um the low point of that

14:05 ↗ west side of a creek is actually a

14:06 ↗ delation 65 I'm going to give you these

14:09 ↗ numbers so that you can understand uh

14:11 ↗ how this is impacting uh the existing

14:14 ↗ side and then how that's being taken

14:17 ↗ care of in the future

14:20 ↗ development so you can see that anything

14:22 ↗ that does come over that uh Creek uh is

14:26 ↗ now entering a site which has basically

14:28 ↗ got an elevated of 64 so it's uh it's

14:31 ↗ lower than where flood water is entering

14:33 ↗ the site and then the departure of flood

14:36 ↗ water from this site is going

14:39 ↗ into uh the the culbert and joining the

14:44 ↗ uh the sale which is sort of the the the

14:48 ↗ most uh recognized feature as you're

14:50 ↗ driving along Gilman Boulevard just uh

14:54 ↗ Northwest of this site which is the the

14:56 ↗ drainage Swale which is running past all

14:58 ↗ of the business businesses through there

14:59 ↗ so that that's the uh route that uh

15:03 ↗ flood water leaves this

15:06 ↗ site um not all of

15:09 ↗ it gets through that pipe uh uh because

15:12 ↗ the city's infrastructure is not

15:14 ↗ actually uh designed for the capacity uh

15:18 ↗ of the flood water that's uh coming out

15:21 ↗ of isqua Creek and so there are times

15:23 ↗ when the flood water uh as you can see

15:26 ↗ the

15:27 ↗ 65.3 feet is the low point on Gilman and

15:32 ↗ at times the flood water does come

15:35 ↗ across Gilman at that point sorry uh

15:39 ↗ seventh at that

15:41 ↗ point in addition to that you probably

15:45 ↗ uh remember that there is a very deep uh

15:48 ↗ drainage ditch and uh uh that that was

15:52 ↗ once uh part of a an overall system of

15:56 ↗ drainage ditches uh put in place Place

15:59 ↗ throughout the city of isqua uh but now

16:02 ↗ it is actually recognized as a class

16:04 ↗ free stream uh and is considered that it

16:07 ↗ has a habitat uh associated with

16:14 ↗ it uh in a what's called a 20-year flood

16:19 ↗ uh the water comes over the actual

16:21 ↗ different colors here are sort of giving

16:24 ↗ you some indication uh of where uh the

16:28 ↗ depth of water changes the lightest is

16:30 ↗ the shallowest and the the deepest uh

16:33 ↗ blue is the the deepest water but that's

16:36 ↗ the existing condition in uh an overflow

16:39 ↗ for a 20year

16:43 ↗ flood so uh I'm going to start adjacent

16:46 ↗ to isqua Creek because we're actually

16:48 ↗ doing a number of things to uh improve

16:52 ↗ the the uh the West edge of where this

16:55 ↗ property meets is aqua Creek uh we're

16:58 ↗ we're creating uh both a rep riparian uh

17:03 ↗ and a buffer

17:05 ↗ enhancement and

17:09 ↗ uh I'm I'm zooming in now on um on a

17:14 ↗ small section of that uh and what I want

17:16 ↗ to draw your attention to is that the

17:19 ↗ the area in outlined in red here is a

17:25 ↗ basically a uh a large shelf area where

17:30 ↗ the the edge of a creek is being pulled

17:33 ↗ back in this is doing a number of things

17:36 ↗ uh uh but the primary piece is it's

17:39 ↗ creating new habitat uh for wildlife

17:42 ↗ along the edge of isqua Creek here uh

17:45 ↗ this is partly replacing the uh uh

17:48 ↗ habitat from the drainage ditch of a of

17:51 ↗ a the class 4 stream which is there but

17:54 ↗ it's also adding some capacity to the

17:56 ↗ storage uh the vol volume of of water

17:59 ↗ storage of isaar

18:01 ↗ Creek

18:04 ↗ um okay and

18:07 ↗ uh so I'm the sequence of slides that

18:11 ↗ I'm going to go through are going to

18:14 ↗ actually let you see the kind of things

18:16 ↗ we're doing I should just mention that a

18:19 ↗ a a a good part of this uh uh riparian

18:24 ↗ Zone actually has fallen trees uh which

18:27 ↗ will be put in place uh there'll be root

18:29 ↗ balls which are in yeah it's it's

18:32 ↗ recreating the edge of of a creek into a

18:35 ↗ more natural setting but in addition to

18:37 ↗ that we're adding a whole series of

18:40 ↗ plants which are appropriate to live in

18:43 ↗ those conditions and plants that are

18:46 ↗ also going to assist with this building

18:48 ↗ of the um habitat for the Wildlife both

18:53 ↗ aquatic wildlife and uh and and birds

18:59 ↗ the next piece of the of the puzzle

19:01 ↗ along the creek is that we're actually

19:04 ↗ restoring uh uh the the top of the uh

19:09 ↗ Creek wall so of a creek area so that

19:11 ↗ there is not a low point which was uh

19:14 ↗ taken out in past years and so that is

19:17 ↗ building it back up to a 66 foot

19:20 ↗ elevation and this is uh uh perhaps I

19:24 ↗ can point out through here this is just

19:27 ↗ slightly

19:29 ↗ higher than the 100-year flood elevation

19:32 ↗ but when we're looking at these

19:34 ↗ elevations of what Creek gets to uh in a

19:38 ↗ in a flood State the creek water is not

19:41 ↗ a sort of a a level amount of water

19:43 ↗ running through it's uh uh it's moving

19:46 ↗ with some velocity it's surging at times

19:50 ↗ and so uh even with this water will come

19:54 ↗ over the top of that and enter the

19:57 ↗ site um we uh in this uh buffer zone um

20:03 ↗ it gets its own planting but uh We've

20:06 ↗ also provided a a gravel foot path that

20:10 ↗ runs through this area uh which is part

20:12 ↗ of uh the interpretive uh uh route which

20:16 ↗ will actually let people understand what

20:18 ↗ is happening uh at the different zones

20:21 ↗ on the edge of the

20:24 ↗ creek so again we're moving up uh from

20:28 ↗ water level of the creek and we're

20:30 ↗ moving into a different group of plants

20:32 ↗ which are appropriate for this uh Upland

20:36 ↗ uh buffer

20:42 ↗ enhancement uh to uh follow on from that

20:46 ↗ uh what we are uh doing then moving west

20:52 ↗ of this area is that we are uh providing

20:55 ↗ a uh a park we're we're calling it a

20:59 ↗ pocket park this is actually following

21:01 ↗ in a a larger area here which is

21:04 ↗ identified as a neighborhood park but

21:06 ↗ that's a great big lozen shape which

21:08 ↗ actually stretches and just a tip of it

21:10 ↗ touches this property but it still is an

21:13 ↗ area uh where uh development could occur

21:18 ↗ but we're keeping all of the development

21:20 ↗ out of that

21:21 ↗ area uh but we're using the the shape

21:24 ↗ here to actually start to take any water

21:28 ↗ which uh comes over the uh side of a

21:31 ↗ creek and start to move it uh

21:38 ↗ westbound this is just looking again at

21:41 ↗ a at a contour rating so we were we were

21:43 ↗ focused in on this area right here and

21:46 ↗ now you can start to see how the the

21:49 ↗ Swale that we are creating is actually

21:53 ↗ moving the uh any flood water from the

21:56 ↗ east side of a site to the very North uh

21:59 ↗ West part of the site which is where it

22:02 ↗ uh rejoins the city's Swale and drainage

22:06 ↗ system which eventually goes to the

22:10 ↗ lake uh so this is just looking a little

22:13 ↗ more closely uh at how the planting will

22:16 ↗ occur within this

22:19 ↗ area sorry uh because uh there is also a

22:25 ↗ high water table on this site there are

22:28 ↗ times when the bottom of this sale will

22:30 ↗ actually have water uh in it at

22:32 ↗ different times of the year not just in

22:35 ↗ uh in a flood condition but when there's

22:37 ↗ a a higher water table and so again we

22:41 ↗ have a different uh planting which will

22:43 ↗ occur in the different elevations of

22:46 ↗ this Swale uh and in the very bottom of

22:49 ↗ the Swale uh we've got plants which uh

22:53 ↗ will enjoy having their feet wet and

22:55 ↗ will Thrive and and not uh not suffer

22:58 ↗ because of

23:00 ↗ that uh I should I should say that uh

23:04 ↗ the top uh I'm sorry I'm supposed to be

23:06 ↗ pointing with this the the top section

23:09 ↗ is actually through the widest part of

23:10 ↗ the sale and you can see where that is

23:13 ↗ fairly uh uh gentle with a slope of the

23:16 ↗ sides and the other section is cut uh

23:19 ↗ through uh here where we're actually

23:22 ↗ dealing with some structured walls to

23:25 ↗ contain uh the sale

23:30 ↗ again I'm moving into the second Zone uh

23:33 ↗ different planting uh different exposure

23:35 ↗ to water uh and all of these plants are

23:39 ↗ uh are here to create uh an area which

23:43 ↗ is uh a wildlife habitat but it's also

23:47 ↗ uh an attractive area uh throughout the

23:50 ↗ the year whether it's rain sun or

23:54 ↗ snow and then as we move further up this

23:57 ↗ uh uh the the Swale to the sides we

24:01 ↗ actually can start to introduce uh uh

24:03 ↗ seasonal flowering plants which uh which

24:06 ↗ will line and you can see the area uh

24:09 ↗ which is running through the site which

24:10 ↗ will have

24:13 ↗ those and then we get to the very top of

24:16 ↗ the sale and at the top of the sale

24:19 ↗ we're getting into larger trees larger

24:21 ↗ shrubs and uh uh it's it's where the uh

24:26 ↗ um the landscape is actually joining

24:28 ↗ into the more structured landscape that

24:31 ↗ you'd expect to find in a uh a more

24:35 ↗ urban site development this is a very

24:38 ↗ naturalistic feature on this site and so

24:41 ↗ if anything it's it's the one piece of a

24:44 ↗ puzzle here which which isn't sort of

24:46 ↗ following the the uh move to the urban

24:49 ↗ character that the central isqua plan uh

24:53 ↗ uh refers to uh but it's actually a very

24:56 ↗ uh a park like uh part of a site which

25:00 ↗ is running

25:04 ↗ through and so that's

25:07 ↗ uh uh starting to indicate when there is

25:11 ↗ a flood uh and there is a 2-year event

25:15 ↗ uh the the the water uh will only go out

25:19 ↗ across the new shelf where the riparian

25:22 ↗ enhancement was put in and so that is uh

25:27 ↗ uh starting to indicate how that is

25:29 ↗ going to work through that

25:32 ↗ area in a 10year event it is expected

25:35 ↗ that the uh the water will come over but

25:37 ↗ the water will pretty much be

25:40 ↗ contained uh throughout this Swale and

25:43 ↗ eventually leave the site and start

25:45 ↗ moving down Gilman

25:48 ↗ Boulevard a 20-year event is uh there's

25:52 ↗ more water uh and uh uh you can start to

25:56 ↗ see that it is actually uh uh flooding

25:59 ↗ in different other parts of the uh

26:02 ↗ neighboring sites and then uh this is

26:05 ↗ just looking at what the condition is in

26:08 ↗ a 100-year flood with the existing use

26:11 ↗ of the site and the existing buildings

26:13 ↗ that are on the site and uh in the

26:17 ↗ future uh that 100-year event is going

26:19 ↗ to be contained into the Swale there

26:21 ↗ will still be some flooding which will

26:23 ↗ occur on neighboring properties uh but

26:27 ↗ the goal is to get the water back into

26:30 ↗ our new soil uh so it can leave the

26:34 ↗ site just a visual comparison you can

26:38 ↗ also start to see that um this raises an

26:42 ↗ issue for the uh character of a

26:45 ↗ development on the site uh we are

26:48 ↗ actually providing uh below grade

26:51 ↗ parking uh but the below grade parking

26:54 ↗ is at an elevation and the entrance to

26:56 ↗ those garages

26:58 ↗ is at a point where we are above the

27:02 ↗ flood waters uh on the site before any

27:06 ↗ uh water would enter uh no water would

27:09 ↗ be entering the

27:12 ↗ garages so I'm going to go back to the

27:15 ↗ park for a little while because the park

27:18 ↗ actually uh connects into uh uh part of

27:22 ↗ the uh uh overall green necklace uh that

27:27 ↗ the the city uh speaks of uh we've got

27:31 ↗ several different areas each with its

27:33 ↗ own character uh the uh the area uh

27:38 ↗ between the the new buffer and and the

27:41 ↗ the Swale is actually going to be a

27:43 ↗ naturalized lawn area this is the kind

27:45 ↗ of a slope which will be coming down

27:48 ↗ from areas where people could picnic but

27:51 ↗ down into the head of a sale we're

27:54 ↗ actually bringing uh a foot Bridge

27:56 ↗ across here which which is part of a

27:58 ↗ shared use Trail which I'll address in a

28:00 ↗ little while as to how that connects

28:02 ↗ into the rest of the city's uh shed use

28:07 ↗ Trails uh we are providing a uh a fenced

28:11 ↗ dog run in this area so there is an area

28:14 ↗ where there can be some containment of

28:17 ↗ uh animals that they're not just running

28:20 ↗ all over the property um and uh

28:24 ↗ obviously that comes along with

28:26 ↗ responsible uh

28:28 ↗ looking after picking up the poof and

28:30 ↗ stuff like that but that's concentrated

28:33 ↗ in that area uh and then this is the

28:37 ↗ area where we're

28:39 ↗ actually we're actually preserving uh

28:42 ↗ the majority of the stand of existing

28:44 ↗ trees that are directly east of the uh

28:48 ↗ Kentucky Fried Chicken and and Taco Bell

28:51 ↗ uh restaurant and so through this area

28:54 ↗ uh those those trees running through

28:57 ↗ here

28:58 ↗ then being enhanced with the new

29:05 ↗ planting okay this is just to give you

29:08 ↗ an idea of the the plant different plant

29:10 ↗ material in the different zones of the

29:15 ↗ park uh so there are you know existing

29:20 ↗ Trails uh around us but uh they're not

29:25 ↗ connected and so uh uh you know the

29:28 ↗ Juniper Trail comes in down here there

29:31 ↗ is actually a multiuse trail which is

29:34 ↗ running up the west side of 7th Avenue

29:38 ↗ um and then of course there is the foot

29:40 ↗ bridge that comes ac across the creek

29:43 ↗ and moves uh uh further east towards uh

29:47 ↗ Gilman

29:50 ↗ Village so what we're doing with this

29:52 ↗ development is creating a more

29:56 ↗ comprehensive shared use trail system

29:59 ↗ running across this property uh we're

30:02 ↗ we're connecting into this Trail U just

30:05 ↗ to orient you this is the corner where

30:07 ↗ the Starbucks uh coffee shop is and U

30:11 ↗ this is the uh entrance to the uh retail

30:15 ↗ Center here and so at that point is

30:18 ↗ where we're bringing pedestrians across

30:20 ↗ and the shared use Trail is uh coming

30:23 ↗ through uh beside our access drive and

30:26 ↗ then cutting across the bridge that I

30:28 ↗ described earlier through the park

30:30 ↗ connecting to the second bridge across

30:32 ↗ the creek uh that's existing and then

30:36 ↗ we're bringing it down uh to connect

30:39 ↗ into Fifth Avenue uh so that we're

30:41 ↗ getting an East West and a north south

30:44 ↗ connection uh into the trail sort

30:48 ↗ of uh responding to the uh the necklace

30:52 ↗ uh

30:55 ↗ notion one of the things things that is

30:58 ↗ uh uh not allowing us to follow the

31:02 ↗ exact rules of the central isqua plans

31:05 ↗ shared use Trail is that down at Fifth

31:09 ↗ Avenue uh the shared use route will be

31:12 ↗ coming around um but it's actually going

31:15 ↗ through an area that is used by uh

31:17 ↗ adjoining properties although this is uh

31:21 ↗ this is within our uh sort of project

31:23 ↗ site boundary and so what we're uh

31:26 ↗ asking for here is an adjustment to the

31:30 ↗ 10 foot wide trail with two feet of

31:33 ↗ Landscaping on both sides and we're

31:36 ↗ asking for uh in order to not

31:40 ↗ disturb uh or prevent the users uh for

31:44 ↗ instance of the dent dentist office

31:45 ↗ through here or access coming through uh

31:49 ↗ for parents delivering children to

31:50 ↗ children to the montari school we're

31:53 ↗ creating um the shed use route as a

31:56 ↗ continuous was paved area but instead of

31:59 ↗ the planting we're suggesting that the

32:02 ↗ boundary of it is defined through this

32:05 ↗ section by the the grass set in the

32:08 ↗ pavers so that there is a an indication

32:11 ↗ to vehicles that there this is a shared

32:13 ↗ use space but the shared use Trail

32:17 ↗ typically doesn't include vehicles uh

32:19 ↗ the shared use Trail is uh you know

32:21 ↗ people pedestrians and bicycles but uh

32:24 ↗ the vehicles are already here they're

32:26 ↗ already using this property but we still

32:29 ↗ believe Um this can be a valid part of

32:32 ↗ the shared use trail running through

32:38 ↗ here uh again the uh shade use Trail has

32:42 ↗ a requirement for Fairly extensive

32:44 ↗ Landscaping on both sides of it and uh

32:48 ↗ so we're looking at that being a

32:50 ↗ combination of trees uh uh perennials

32:53 ↗ and ground covers as they're running

32:55 ↗ through down both sides

32:57 ↗ the character of this shed use Trail

32:59 ↗ changes throughout the site because in

33:02 ↗ in some parts it's actually associated

33:05 ↗ with larger Landscaping areas and and so

33:08 ↗ the the edges of it get blurred and then

33:11 ↗ in some places it's actually running

33:12 ↗ through the park uh where the edges get

33:15 ↗ sort of extended out into the

33:19 ↗ park now in addition to the shed use

33:21 ↗ Trail we're actually building a stronger

33:24 ↗ pedestrian uh sidewalk connection uh

33:27 ↗ through the South again we're focusing

33:29 ↗ on uh this providing a connection both

33:33 ↗ north south and east west uh and so uh

33:38 ↗ the uh uh the new Street improvements

33:41 ↗ along 7th Avenue will of course include

33:44 ↗ uh new

33:46 ↗ sidewalks um we'll be connecting into

33:49 ↗ what will be uh a new sidewalk and uh

33:53 ↗ treatment uh here um this is where the

33:57 ↗ the new bus stop will be relocated to uh

34:01 ↗ for uh uh for passengers and we're

34:05 ↗ actually introducing a trail following

34:08 ↗ the sale and then Crossing another foot

34:10 ↗ bridge to come back into the

34:14 ↗ site uh in addition to that uh we we're

34:18 ↗ actually uh using one of the tools which

34:21 ↗ is recommended in the central isacar

34:23 ↗ plan which is a through block passage

34:25 ↗ when a block gets very large uh uh

34:29 ↗ rather than uh pedestrians not being

34:31 ↗ allowed to get from one side to the

34:33 ↗ other um there's a uh a trail which is

34:38 ↗ running through here it is pedestrian

34:40 ↗ only it is fully

34:42 ↗ accessible um but it is making a

34:45 ↗ connection from Locust Street through

34:47 ↗ the middle of a site and heading up to

34:49 ↗ the bus stop uh and then you can see how

34:52 ↗ uh other sidewalks here are connecting

34:54 ↗ into different parts of the shed used

34:56 ↗ trail

34:58 ↗ uh this is the uh the just the 4ot wide

35:01 ↗ gravel path that I was describing which

35:03 ↗ is part of the uh uh opportunity to get

35:06 ↗ closer to the improvements along the

35:09 ↗ side of the creek and then we are making

35:12 ↗ extensive improvements to Locust the

35:14 ↗ north side of Locust Street uh which

35:17 ↗ includes sidewalk uh treatment there

35:21 ↗ also so I'm going to start up at the

35:24 ↗ northwest corner of the site and then

35:25 ↗ I'm going to move uh down Gilman uh

35:29 ↗ across Locust and then back into the

35:31 ↗ shared uh uh back into the through block

35:36 ↗ passage

35:38 ↗ uh clearly with uh such an extensive

35:41 ↗ storm water system running through here

35:44 ↗ uh we're not able to uh build the

35:47 ↗ building uh up to the uh 0

35:51 ↗ 10t setback from public streets which

35:54 ↗ the central isaar plan uh requires uh in

35:58 ↗ this mixed use uh Zone um but what we're

36:03 ↗ uh what we're doing here is we're uh

36:06 ↗ allowing that uh area to start to create

36:12 ↗ the new Edge to uh Gilman Boulevard and

36:16 ↗ I'll I'll tell you a little bit about

36:18 ↗ what some of the issues are through here

36:22 ↗ uh that are influencing our our choices

36:25 ↗ here uh because of the uh uh increased

36:30 ↗ traffic we are installing a new signal

36:33 ↗ uh at Gilman and 7th Avenue uh in

36:37 ↗ addition to the new signal we're

36:39 ↗ installing turn Lanes uh on Gilman which

36:43 ↗ will allow signalized uh turning uh for

36:47 ↗ people who are arriving at this

36:49 ↗ intersection and going to the North and

36:52 ↗ then uh we're actually removing the

36:55 ↗ median um uh through the area east of

37:00 ↗ this intersection in order to create a

37:02 ↗ new turn lane to allow turning movements

37:05 ↗ to come into uh 7th Avenue and to get to

37:09 ↗ the uh retail Center as well as this

37:13 ↗ development uh for those of you familiar

37:15 ↗ with the site this is one of the

37:17 ↗ existing Islands um that is there and

37:20 ↗ then there is a there is another median

37:23 ↗ Island which is in this area it is

37:26 ↗ actually had uh got a row of trees in it

37:29 ↗ and so we recognize that uh we're

37:32 ↗ starting because of the traffic

37:34 ↗ improvements we're starting to remove

37:36 ↗ some of the trees and we understand that

37:39 ↗ uh the the population of trees uh along

37:43 ↗ Gilman Boulevard is part of what gives

37:45 ↗ it its

37:46 ↗ character and so

37:49 ↗ um hold that

37:52 ↗ for um in addition to uh the turn Lanes

37:57 ↗ um we're actually uh Gilman Boulevard is

38:01 ↗ not meeting uh at the moment the city's

38:04 ↗ own standards for for Boulevard uh

38:09 ↗ traffic lanes and so we're actually

38:11 ↗ moving the curb on the south side of

38:14 ↗ Gilman Boulevard uh to

38:17 ↗ the just GNA go so we're moving that

38:21 ↗ curb

38:22 ↗ uh a foot to the South in order to

38:27 ↗ provide the appropriate size Lanes the

38:29 ↗ requirement here is that we have 11 two

38:32 ↗ 11t travel lanes and a bike

38:34 ↗ lane what you would normally then get in

38:38 ↗ the city's

38:39 ↗ Boulevard requirements is you would get

38:43 ↗ uh six feet of landscaping and then

38:45 ↗ you'd get a six foot

38:47 ↗ sidewalk uh because the uh Metro buses

38:50 ↗ are being relocated uh but Metro likes

38:53 ↗ to stop past the intersection not before

38:56 ↗ the inter

38:57 ↗ intersection and so because the the uh

39:00 ↗ the Metro bus is is now stopping in this

39:03 ↗ area through here um we're uh concerned

39:09 ↗ that the new Street trees that we're

39:11 ↗ planting through there uh will not

39:14 ↗ survive adequately in just the six foot

39:17 ↗ uh uh uh Zone and so we're providing a

39:21 ↗ wider planting zone to allow uh the

39:24 ↗ trees to have a greater opportunity to

39:26 ↗ thve without being whacked by the bus uh

39:29 ↗ every time the buses are pulling into

39:32 ↗ the bus

39:33 ↗ stop um the buses will uh just because

39:36 ↗ of the boulevard section that the city

39:38 ↗ has the buses will pull into the bik

39:40 ↗ lane uh in order to drop the passengers

39:43 ↗ off

39:47 ↗ uh uh what we are uh been doing uh is

39:51 ↗ that we're I'm sorry let me just go back

39:54 ↗ to this one we're actually adding a a

39:56 ↗ second row of trees because uh uh of

40:01 ↗ widening the boulevard because of

40:06 ↗ um the buses because of the trees we're

40:10 ↗ actually having to remove the existing

40:14 ↗ uh uh trees which are on the curb side

40:18 ↗ uh of the street but we're also removing

40:22 ↗ a a row of hazelnut trees which are

40:25 ↗ running along

40:26 ↗ uh very basically on our property line

40:30 ↗ so we're we're uh replacing that with a

40:33 ↗ second uh row of trees so this is

40:36 ↗ creating a more of an alley uh along uh

40:40 ↗ with trees on both sides of the

40:44 ↗ sidewalk and you can see that here

40:49 ↗ uh I just I put this up in case you

40:52 ↗ wanted to come back and get into the

40:54 ↗ details of what we're doing with this

40:55 ↗ intersection from a traffic point of

40:57 ↗ view I'm not going to dwell on it uh but

41:01 ↗ uh the uh the traffic

41:03 ↗ study uh has been based upon uh what we

41:09 ↗ would call the worst case scenario so

41:11 ↗ there's been no credit given and I just

41:14 ↗ want to draw your attention to uh this

41:18 ↗ section here there's been no credit

41:20 ↗ given to we already know from the 2010

41:23 ↗ census that uh uh

41:26 ↗ 8.5% of residents in in in the area use

41:31 ↗ Transit the 12.5% use car pools and Van

41:36 ↗ pools uh and another 10% walk or bicycle

41:40 ↗ uh and then another

41:42 ↗ 2.5% uh of the isqua people actually

41:46 ↗ work from home that has not influenced

41:50 ↗ the traffic study nor the requirement

41:53 ↗ for the the lane so the the light and

41:57 ↗ the Turning Lanes so we've we've kept

41:59 ↗ with the worst case scenario here um and

42:04 ↗ uh just wanted to bring that to your

42:07 ↗ attention uh and the pieces of the

42:10 ↗ traffic mitigation uh which are being

42:13 ↗ included is the signal

42:16 ↗ signalization um front Frontage

42:18 ↗ improvements along 7eventh

42:20 ↗ Avenue uh new Frontage improvements to

42:23 ↗ Gilman Boulevard and then Frontage

42:25 ↗ improvements on

42:29 ↗ Locust so this is just looking a little

42:32 ↗ more closely the the requirements from

42:35 ↗ Metro are um that we create in this

42:39 ↗ location uh a good size minimum 8 by10

42:44 ↗ uh area for uh people to get off a bus

42:48 ↗ they recognize that uh some buses have

42:52 ↗ different exits depending on whether we

42:53 ↗ have a single length bus or an

42:55 ↗ articulated bus

42:56 ↗ or whether there is actually uh the

42:59 ↗ potential of two buses arriving right

43:02 ↗ behind one another um they have

43:04 ↗ requested that we uh provide up to 50 ft

43:07 ↗ of area where people can actually be

43:09 ↗ stepping out of a bus we're looking at

43:12 ↗ that being more of a crushed rock area

43:14 ↗ but the main bus stop being the 8 by10

43:17 ↗ requirement that they're looking

43:19 ↗ for so now in this plan you can start to

43:22 ↗ see uh how we're placing the the uh the

43:25 ↗ 6t wide concrete sidewalk how our new

43:28 ↗ trees are running through we are

43:31 ↗ actually hoping to be able to keep a

43:33 ↗ couple of the uh hazelnut trees uh which

43:37 ↗ are uh healthy not all of those trees

43:39 ↗ are healthy but we're looking to try and

43:41 ↗ keep a couple of those this is on the

43:44 ↗ the food route uh of of fruiting uh and

43:49 ↗ nut uh

43:50 ↗ trees um and then we're we're bringing

43:54 ↗ the sidewalk from the stop diagonally

43:57 ↗ across and down to joining the

43:59 ↗ improvements uh on 7th

44:02 ↗ Avenue uh we're we're proposing to

44:05 ↗ provide a uh a seat wall across here and

44:09 ↗ some uh a shelter uh with uh weather

44:14 ↗ protection and with some trellis uh and

44:17 ↗ one of the ideas we've been floating is

44:19 ↗ that uh potentially the introduction of

44:22 ↗ hops this used to be a hop Farm uh in in

44:25 ↗ the p and Evac can be reintroduced as a

44:29 ↗ a gesture towards the past uses of this

44:36 ↗ property as we move down uh 7th Avenue

44:41 ↗ you can see that uh there are fairly

44:43 ↗ extensive improvements which are

44:45 ↗ required under the central isal plan uh

44:48 ↗ we had one travel Lane we have bicycle

44:51 ↗ lane we have a parking Lane we have a

44:53 ↗ planting area we have new sidewalk and

44:56 ↗ then we have additional landscape

44:58 ↗ stepping back to the

44:59 ↗ buildings uh what we're showing in our

45:02 ↗ uh two elevations running through here

45:05 ↗ this is the West facade of the

45:06 ↗ northernmost building is how the

45:09 ↗ different how the massing of the

45:10 ↗ buildings are actually uh introducing

45:13 ↗ some free story elements it's another uh

45:15 ↗ pointer in the in the isqua Plan central

45:19 ↗ isoa plan uh to actually break down the

45:22 ↗ scale of the buildings uh uh and then

45:25 ↗ we're actually using um a what we've

45:29 ↗ been calling our Twisted Corners to

45:31 ↗ actually start to identify some of the

45:34 ↗ key uh uh ends of the buildings uh where

45:38 ↗ we're uh for instance down here

45:41 ↗ identifying where the entrance to

45:42 ↗ building a

45:44 ↗ is I do want to point out that we are

45:47 ↗ applying uh uh what is currently called

45:51 ↗ healthy living standards to these

45:53 ↗ buildings uh and basically that is

45:55 ↗ meaning that uh we do not just have a

45:58 ↗ front door to these buildings uh every

46:01 ↗ multif family building that's built also

46:03 ↗ has an egress stair and very often those

46:06 ↗ egress stairs are uh internal to the

46:09 ↗ buildings and they don't have natural

46:11 ↗ light daylight or air and what we're

46:15 ↗ doing in all of these buildings is we're

46:17 ↗ actually bringing those stairs to the

46:19 ↗ exterior of the building they're getting

46:21 ↗ uh windows they're getting n uh daylight

46:24 ↗ and we're actually using those as a

46:26 ↗ secondary entrance for the people who

46:28 ↗ actually want to come into the building

46:31 ↗ and use the stairs or leave the building

46:33 ↗ using the stairs rather than everyone

46:35 ↗ being focused uh to elevator use uh and

46:39 ↗ so you'll see that in each one of these

46:40 ↗ buildings that I'm talking about uh but

46:43 ↗ there's a second uh access

46:48 ↗ point um I actually I mentioned before

46:52 ↗ that uh this our access Drive which is

46:56 ↗ coming in running through the site is

46:58 ↗ actually lining up with the uh access

47:00 ↗ Drive which is going into the shopping

47:03 ↗ center uh and that is where the uh

47:06 ↗ crosswalk will be bringing um the shed

47:09 ↗ use route across that site the two main

47:15 ↗ uh uh public spaces of what we're

47:19 ↗ calling our building a on the left and a

47:21 ↗ Building B on the right uh both of their

47:23 ↗ main lobbies uh the leasing space and

47:26 ↗ amenity spaces are all gathered around

47:29 ↗ this corner so these are the most uh

47:32 ↗ public portions of these buildings and

47:35 ↗ we actually are extending that further

47:37 ↗ back along the shared use Trail so we

47:40 ↗ have an exercise uh and a yoga studio

47:43 ↗ and they're fronting on this uh more

47:46 ↗ publicly used uh route through the

47:51 ↗ site uh I'll come back to it later but

47:53 ↗ you'll also see that each one of these

47:55 ↗ buildings also has its own uh Courtyard

47:58 ↗ Garden spaces for the residents and some

48:00 ↗ of them are as in this building are open

48:04 ↗ to the sidewalk so you get a a view into

48:09 ↗ those there's just the uh Juniper Trail

48:12 ↗ uh and then connecting into the shed use

48:16 ↗ Trail so I was talking about uh how um

48:21 ↗ this new street is being addressed uh

48:26 ↗ basically what you're you're seeing is

48:28 ↗ uh from the center line of the street uh

48:31 ↗ this is the existing uh condition which

48:34 ↗ is uh on the retail parking side of a

48:37 ↗ street and so it's a travel Lane uh with

48:41 ↗ planting with the existing uh pedestrian

48:44 ↗ route running adjacent to that um what

48:48 ↗ the central isqua plan uh is uh asking

48:53 ↗ is that we actually provide a 10-ft

48:55 ↗ travel Lane Lane we're providing the

48:56 ↗ bike lane uh we're providing on street

48:59 ↗ parking uh uh the on street parking and

49:02 ↗ the bike lane both uh uh traffic calming

49:07 ↗ uh then we're providing 8 fet of

49:09 ↗ landscaping uh so that we can get a

49:11 ↗ major scale of Street trees running

49:14 ↗ along here um we're providing 8ot

49:17 ↗ sidewalk along this this is U uh this is

49:22 ↗ the core Street this is a core Street

49:25 ↗ under a new definition of your street uh

49:29 ↗ nomenclatures uh and so this is sort of

49:32 ↗ the profile of all the pieces that need

49:35 ↗ to fit into uh the Improvement of the co

49:38 ↗ stre so uh basically it finishes up

49:41 ↗ taking 39 ft uh of

49:45 ↗ uh area to be able to do that again

49:49 ↗ similar to what I was talking about of

49:51 ↗ getting significant Landscaping on both

49:53 ↗ sides of the sidewalks to enhance The

49:55 ↗ Pedestrian environment the space between

49:58 ↗ the sidewalk and the building is also uh

50:02 ↗ uh heavily

50:04 ↗ landscaped I should have mentioned that

50:07 ↗ whenever you're looking at these we've

50:09 ↗ got a little key plan in the corner so

50:10 ↗ if you want to know where you are on the

50:12 ↗ overall say sorry I should have said

50:13 ↗ that earlier um there's a key which lets

50:16 ↗ you see where we're uh where we

50:20 ↗ are so as we move down uh we're actually

50:23 ↗ getting more open space uh adjacent to

50:26 ↗ the lobbies uh so the sitting areas uh

50:29 ↗ we uh are providing uh ramp and stairs

50:33 ↗ going into into the buildings because of

50:36 ↗ the water table because of the flood

50:39 ↗ water um the parking garages are not

50:42 ↗ sunk completely below grade but are at a

50:46 ↗ level where um they are put above the

50:51 ↗ highest flood uh level that's

50:53 ↗ anticipated on the site uh to the main

50:56 ↗ residential level and then the entrance

50:58 ↗ to the garage is is also above that

51:00 ↗ flood level uh but I think you could see

51:04 ↗ from the previous uh uh section we're

51:08 ↗ actually using the space adjacent to the

51:10 ↗ sidewalk to actually hide the fact that

51:13 ↗ the uh the building is slightly raised

51:16 ↗ out of grade uh there is no parking

51:18 ↗ garage which is exposed in any of these

51:24 ↗ buildings

51:27 ↗ so this is uh sort of looking at that

51:29 ↗ profile this is what I was calling our

51:32 ↗ Twisted Corner this is the entrance to

51:34 ↗ uh the lobby space here and you can see

51:37 ↗ the profile that the Landscaping is

51:39 ↗ taking um directly adjacent to the

51:43 ↗ lobbies on both sides uh we've got uh

51:47 ↗ handicap parking uh accessible parking

51:50 ↗ connecting into ramp systems we've got

51:52 ↗ the required parking for the United

51:56 ↗ States Postal Services dedicated spot uh

52:00 ↗ uh and we've also got loading uh areas

52:03 ↗ uh for people that are moving in and out

52:05 ↗ of these

52:08 ↗ buildings the materials that were shown

52:10 ↗ in there uh and this is uh this is

52:13 ↗ actually looking at the the three

52:15 ↗ feature colors that we're proposing for

52:18 ↗ the the corners on each one of the uh

52:21 ↗ buildings uh but we are also including

52:24 ↗ uh uh brick uh we're including some lap

52:28 ↗ siding uh Ceda siding on this sorry this

52:31 ↗ wasn't lap siding and then we're uh we

52:34 ↗ have uh ctitious sighting which is being

52:36 ↗ used in both a Bard and batn pattern and

52:39 ↗ then a lap

52:43 ↗ sighting so moving down to U Building B

52:48 ↗ um this is where this this corner which

52:50 ↗ is directly across from Starbucks is

52:52 ↗ where the main leasing uh

52:55 ↗ uh space will be and so it is at a very

52:58 ↗ prominent uh corner and it's got very

53:01 ↗ easy access it's going to be very

53:03 ↗ transparent uh to be able to see uh into

53:06 ↗ this space and very

53:11 ↗ welcoming so uh here the uh the scale of

53:15 ↗ this changes actually to being a

53:17 ↗ two-story uh scale of the ground floor

53:21 ↗ here uh We've deleted residential units

53:24 ↗ which were above on this

53:29 ↗ level as we turn the corner and go on to

53:32 ↗ Locust Locust uh has been established as

53:36 ↗ a neighborhood street in the uh uh

53:39 ↗ definition uh of the city these

53:42 ↗ definitions have been defined as we've

53:44 ↗ been working on the on the project they

53:46 ↗ weren't necessarily established at the

53:48 ↗ beginning uh but we've worked with staff

53:51 ↗ to be able to meet the standards for

53:53 ↗ these core course Boulevard Street cor

53:57 ↗ Street neighborhood street uh as part of

54:00 ↗ the plan uh what we have here then uh is

54:05 ↗ this is actually requiring a dedication

54:07 ↗ of uh 15 ft of additional land to meet

54:13 ↗ the requirements of building the streets

54:15 ↗ to these standards and so the current uh

54:18 ↗ property line is here and the new

54:21 ↗ property line will be um at the back of

54:23 ↗ the sidewalk

54:25 ↗ what what again you're seeing uh are our

54:28 ↗ access to buildings which are uh through

54:30 ↗ the stairs this is the beginning of our

54:33 ↗ through block passage which I'll come

54:35 ↗ back to uh we have an entrance to uh

54:38 ↗ Building C uh through here and then it

54:40 ↗ continues on uh to the other end of the

54:43 ↗ access Drive which is coming in from the

54:45 ↗ southeast

54:49 ↗ Corner this is uh the street entrance to

54:53 ↗ building C

54:56 ↗ uh and then this is the character of the

55:00 ↗ uh neighborhood street as uh defined

55:04 ↗ we're actually doing a couple of things

55:06 ↗ slightly

55:07 ↗ differently um in order to be able to

55:10 ↗ get some larger scale trees uh in this

55:15 ↗ relatively narrow Corridor um we're

55:19 ↗ actually uh creating some bulb

55:23 ↗ outs uh between parking spaces along the

55:26 ↗ street so that in those locations uh we

55:29 ↗ were able to plant a a slightly larger

55:32 ↗ tree uh so we've got two scales of tree

55:36 ↗ uh and they'll form a rhythm going down

55:38 ↗ the

55:40 ↗ street going back to the uh end of the

55:43 ↗ uh through block passageway on on Locus

55:46 ↗ Street uh this perhaps was one of our

55:50 ↗ biggest challenges to make sure that

55:51 ↗ this did become accessible for everybody

55:55 ↗ and so we actually uh we we have brought

55:58 ↗ the sidewalk uh around uh following the

56:02 ↗ curb and then ducking back in behind the

56:04 ↗ planting uh but we've included a system

56:07 ↗ of ramps to get up into here uh as well

56:10 ↗ as providing stairs uh through in in

56:13 ↗ this area and then used that again to uh

56:17 ↗ start a larger tree

56:20 ↗ planting this is the car that we're

56:23 ↗ running through there the through block

56:25 ↗ passage requires a 10 foot wide path

56:29 ↗ running through here within a uh within

56:34 ↗ 20 fet so there uh 5T of required

56:37 ↗ Landscaping we're providing a

56:39 ↗ considerably wider passage than that and

56:42 ↗ the the Landscaping is actually being

56:44 ↗ included in uh

56:47 ↗ um in it's it's shaping some of the

56:50 ↗ private spaces outside the residences

56:52 ↗ that are on the ground floor so we have

56:55 ↗ uh the uh public space running through

56:58 ↗ the middle and then some private space

57:01 ↗ uh but overall we're meeting the 10t

57:03 ↗ through block passage we're creating

57:06 ↗ some interest with the planting and

57:07 ↗ defining semi-private spaces uh and

57:11 ↗ running down the middle of here from

57:13 ↗ building to building we have some ker

57:15 ↗ lighting which will be uh uh what is uh

57:19 ↗ just down light shining in the middle of

57:21 ↗ this uh route which will be providing

57:24 ↗ the uh

57:25 ↗ Safety and

57:29 ↗ Security I I know you you're probably

57:31 ↗ not remembering every plant which has

57:33 ↗ been put up here but I just want to

57:35 ↗ point out that what we've been uh we've

57:39 ↗ got a great landscape team that have

57:41 ↗ been working on this and what they have

57:43 ↗ been doing is actually looking at

57:46 ↗ variations of planting so each of these

57:48 ↗ areas which some of them have got

57:50 ↗ different solar exposures but they each

57:53 ↗ have a slightly different palet of plant

57:56 ↗ so uh it's it's not just the same uh

58:00 ↗ throughout the whole

58:02 ↗ site so this is looking at sort of that

58:05 ↗ in in more detail and then the more

58:07 ↗ detailed section as to how the light is

58:09 ↗ working and how we're getting uh

58:11 ↗ planting this is above the top of the

58:14 ↗ parking garage and so all of this

58:16 ↗ planting is on the structure uh running

58:19 ↗ through here and that's why you you see

58:22 ↗ these planting areas being raised up to

58:24 ↗ get the other

58:26 ↗ soil now I mentioned that when I showed

58:29 ↗ you the uh Street entrance for for

58:32 ↗ building SE uh there was just stairs

58:35 ↗ going into there we're actually bringing

58:36 ↗ in the accessible entrance to this

58:38 ↗ building from the north uh and coming

58:41 ↗ through what is a fairly large Courtyard

58:44 ↗ in the middle of this c-shaped

58:47 ↗ building um so uh this is the entrance

58:51 ↗ it's actually right across the lobby

58:53 ↗ from the entrance from the Street uh but

58:56 ↗ there is a uh again an accessible

58:58 ↗ entrance coming up to uh a a courtyard

59:03 ↗ the area uh closest to this is the

59:05 ↗ shared use trail running through here

59:07 ↗ the area closest to the shared use Trail

59:09 ↗ is more of a uh sitting area for the

59:12 ↗ residents who are living here um we have

59:16 ↗ a slight uh disagreement with staff here

59:20 ↗ uh we are uh suggesting that one access

59:23 ↗ point to this Courtyard is adequate

59:25 ↗ where staff had raised a question as to

59:27 ↗ whether there may be a second one we're

59:30 ↗ advocating that uh we'd rather see more

59:33 ↗ planting than more Paving uh in this

59:36 ↗ area um and that this is uh a sitting

59:40 ↗ area um and Landscaping which is more

59:44 ↗ focused with access from the residential

59:47 ↗ Courtyard rather than from the shared

59:49 ↗ use Trail or directly across the street

59:52 ↗ from the from the pocket par

59:58 ↗ uh Building B Courtyard uh this is where

1:00:01 ↗ the one of the major amenity spaces as

1:00:03 ↗ well as the leasing is going to be and

1:00:05 ↗ this is uh so this is oh here we go

1:00:11 ↗ uh uh this is on Seventh and so this is

1:00:14 ↗ a Westerly facing Courtyard and this is

1:00:17 ↗ our major uh amenity space in this

1:00:20 ↗ building uh and there is extensive uh

1:00:24 ↗ amenity spaces continued outside uh uh

1:00:28 ↗ for a more active use by the whole

1:00:33 ↗ community and on building a the uh uh

1:00:37 ↗ outdoor space is actually on the uh east

1:00:41 ↗ side of this building and this is the

1:00:44 ↗ actually the edge of the building and

1:00:46 ↗ we're sort of blurring that to uh be

1:00:49 ↗ able to take advantage of uh all of the

1:00:52 ↗ new plant material which is occurring in

1:00:54 ↗ the Swale which is just just to the east

1:00:57 ↗ of

1:01:02 ↗ here uh so I'm just going to cover some

1:01:04 ↗ of the key points uh from the central

1:01:07 ↗ isqua plan um the first is that uh we're

1:01:12 ↗ in the mixed use Zone here and the focus

1:01:16 ↗ of the mixed use zone is to create a

1:01:19 ↗ mixed use neighborhood uh in this area

1:01:23 ↗ we have the retail we have the

1:01:25 ↗ restaurants we have offices uh and this

1:01:28 ↗ is the first residential that is being

1:01:30 ↗ introduced in this portion of uh uh this

1:01:34 ↗ Zone and so uh we're adding uh in the

1:01:37 ↗ three buildings a total of 344

1:01:40 ↗ Apartments uh we have onsite and uh as I

1:01:45 ↗ mentioned structured below grade parking

1:01:48 ↗ uh we have been able to uh meet the

1:01:51 ↗ city's requirements of not exceeding 60%

1:01:54 ↗ of that being compact uh spaces and the

1:01:57 ↗ rest being fullsize

1:01:59 ↗ spaces um we're providing

1:02:02 ↗ uh extensive amenities both on the site

1:02:05 ↗ for the public and a lot of amenities on

1:02:08 ↗ the site uh for the residents uh

1:02:11 ↗ including the landscape Courtyards uh

1:02:13 ↗ Gathering spaces in the buildings and

1:02:15 ↗ exercise

1:02:18 ↗ Studios I think you got the message but

1:02:21 ↗ we're doing extensive Street

1:02:22 ↗ improvements uh and uh that's including

1:02:27 ↗ uh the traffic uh signalization and

1:02:29 ↗ improvements at Gilman uh and seventh um

1:02:34 ↗ we're providing uh easy uh pedestrian

1:02:38 ↗ connections to get to Transit uh the um

1:02:43 ↗ in addition to the bus stop uh eastbound

1:02:47 ↗ being located here will be moving the

1:02:50 ↗ bus stop on the other side of the street

1:02:52 ↗ so that it is also at the other side of

1:02:54 ↗ of a light uh and so uh for westbound uh

1:02:59 ↗ people going into the cities uh they

1:03:02 ↗ will be uh uh catching the bus on the

1:03:04 ↗ other side of the

1:03:06 ↗ street um we've also uh made an effort

1:03:10 ↗ with the choice uh of plant material to

1:03:14 ↗ increase the tree canopy uh I think you

1:03:17 ↗ all know that this is a

1:03:20 ↗ um sort of basically a a

1:03:25 ↗ asphalt parking lot at the moment with

1:03:27 ↗ very little uh Landscaping associated

1:03:29 ↗ with it and so we're uh increasing the

1:03:33 ↗ tree canopy here

1:03:36 ↗ extensively uh and then as I mentioned

1:03:38 ↗ before we're developing to the central

1:03:40 ↗ isaquel PL new standards of uh the

1:03:43 ↗ course Street and the neighborhood

1:03:44 ↗ street

1:03:46 ↗ and and then the last piece uh we uh we

1:03:50 ↗ love the the green necklace piece of the

1:03:53 ↗ the central plan and uh so we're uh

1:03:58 ↗ happy to be creating a connection in

1:04:01 ↗ that overall uh with our pocket park

1:04:04 ↗ with our shed use uh route across the

1:04:07 ↗ site with the food block passage and and

1:04:10 ↗ just with the overall standard of the

1:04:12 ↗ attractive Landscaping in the

1:04:15 ↗ site that completes my presentation and

1:04:19 ↗ I think it's over to Jerry

1:04:21 ↗ for the staff presentation thank you

1:04:24 ↗ very much you're welcome

1:04:34 ↗ car that was rather complete and it's

1:04:36 ↗ going to be hard to

1:04:43 ↗ top hello commission

1:04:46 ↗ members think uh Katie and Richard I

1:04:49 ↗ don't know but I'm Jerry Lind with the

1:04:51 ↗ development services office and I know

1:04:52 ↗ everybody else an audience uh there is

1:04:55 ↗ the agenda on the table and there's also

1:04:57 ↗ a sign up list too so when I'm done

1:04:58 ↗ speaking to you'll have an opportunity

1:05:00 ↗ to also speak but if you would please

1:05:02 ↗ sign the list to also tonight too I've

1:05:04 ↗ taken a lot of names and email addresses

1:05:08 ↗ from our Riven storm uh River and

1:05:10 ↗ streams board meetings we've had in the

1:05:11 ↗ past and our neighbors notices we've

1:05:15 ↗ given out to so I've got a pretty good

1:05:17 ↗ comprehensive list and if you do want to

1:05:19 ↗ receive a copy of our final notice of

1:05:21 ↗ decision you will want to uh make sure

1:05:23 ↗ you're on that list of names

1:05:30 ↗ too uh the application is not only the

1:05:33 ↗ site development permit but it's also a

1:05:35 ↗ shoreline application to the project is

1:05:38 ↗ on the Western Bank of isquat Creek and

1:05:42 ↗ Shoreline management is required for

1:05:44 ↗ those uh properties within 200 feet of

1:05:47 ↗ that ordinary high water mark uh most of

1:05:50 ↗ the development you've seen tonight is

1:05:52 ↗ primarily on the western side

1:05:54 ↗ but the Eastern side has a number of The

1:05:56 ↗ Pedestrian areas too uh including

1:05:59 ↗ notably the uh the park and so those are

1:06:02 ↗ the elements that will be u under the

1:06:05 ↗ jurisdiction of Shoreline

1:06:08 ↗ management uh you saw the vicinity map

1:06:11 ↗ and there's another view of it too of

1:06:13 ↗ our major roadways highlighted in yellow

1:06:15 ↗ on the site within the black area so

1:06:18 ↗ it's right in the center of things on

1:06:20 ↗ Gilman

1:06:23 ↗ Boulevard an aerial photo of the

1:06:26 ↗ site this uh site of course does wrap

1:06:29 ↗ around O'Reilly's Auto Parts and the KFC

1:06:33 ↗ Taco Bell site which is on Gilman so

1:06:35 ↗ those are not included with this and

1:06:37 ↗ then you have the dental office and the

1:06:39 ↗ monor school at the southeast corner too

1:06:41 ↗ so it's got a a rather odd configuration

1:06:45 ↗ the yellow lines that you see in the

1:06:47 ↗ site are the parcels there's eight

1:06:49 ↗ Parcels that make up the site and uh

1:06:51 ↗ eventually as it goes through the

1:06:53 ↗ construction phase these Parcels would

1:06:56 ↗ be

1:06:59 ↗ Consolidated an overview of the project

1:07:02 ↗ it is they're all three of them are

1:07:03 ↗ fivestory buildings and they're all

1:07:05 ↗ located above the garages the parking

1:07:09 ↗ that we saw there are some surface

1:07:11 ↗ stalls uh linear one through the through

1:07:13 ↗ the site and then a smaller lot just

1:07:17 ↗ west of O'Reilly autle parts and then

1:07:19 ↗ there's a u uh a garbage storage

1:07:24 ↗ area for U pickup in that location as

1:07:26 ↗ well too the site is just over six acres

1:07:31 ↗ and with about 400 parking stalls to

1:07:33 ↗ serve the needs of the site uh the

1:07:35 ↗ parking count does meet the minimum

1:07:37 ↗ requirements and it is well below the

1:07:39 ↗ maximum too this is something new that

1:07:41 ↗ we didn't have under the old plans uh

1:07:44 ↗ today we do have maximum numbers for

1:07:47 ↗ parking spaces uh for unit counts we

1:07:50 ↗ used to see a number of units per acre

1:07:53 ↗ now it's floor area ratio so these are

1:07:56 ↗ uh different elements than uh what's

1:07:58 ↗ been

1:07:59 ↗ shared in the past with the development

1:08:02 ↗ commission uh the park and shared use

1:08:04 ↗ route those are very key elements of the

1:08:06 ↗ green necklace plan with the uh City and

1:08:11 ↗ then having interconnecting walkways to

1:08:13 ↗ the site which they've provided to the

1:08:15 ↗ landscape

1:08:17 ↗ Swale uh they'll turn that into not only

1:08:20 ↗ a functional part of the site but as an

1:08:21 ↗ amenity too worth seeing

1:08:24 ↗ uh it's qu Creek buffer improvements

1:08:26 ↗ quite a bit of that has been done to

1:08:28 ↗ compensate for uh the sell that you see

1:08:31 ↗ along 7th Avenue now which would be

1:08:34 ↗ piped and then of course Street

1:08:36 ↗ improvements on the three budding

1:08:39 ↗ streets these are some site photos taken

1:08:42 ↗ recently on a nicer day day than today

1:08:45 ↗ uh viewing Southwest you see on the left

1:08:47 ↗ you can see the uh O'Reilly Auto Parts

1:08:49 ↗ with the red horizontal stripes on it

1:08:51 ↗ and that's Tiger Mountain in the

1:08:52 ↗ background

1:08:55 ↗ uh the photo on the right is viewing

1:08:57 ↗ South that's 7th Avenue you can see the

1:09:00 ↗ uh the two lanes that we have today and

1:09:02 ↗ then a lot of grassy areas to

1:09:05 ↗ the to the east of the

1:09:08 ↗ street and to the right on that photo

1:09:10 ↗ that's the Safeway isaquel

1:09:13 ↗ Commons shopping

1:09:15 ↗ center uh the applicant mentioned that

1:09:18 ↗ it's it's a pretty Barren parking lot

1:09:20 ↗ and you can see it is mostly asphalt

1:09:22 ↗ there's some trees in the center of the

1:09:23 ↗ site those trees would be removed the

1:09:26 ↗ trees over in the Grove by the KFC would

1:09:29 ↗ be

1:09:32 ↗ retained and the final photos I took

1:09:35 ↗ again is viewing South towards Tiger

1:09:37 ↗ Mountain again it's a lot of asphalt

1:09:40 ↗ this is taken from about the street side

1:09:43 ↗ of

1:09:44 ↗ Gilman and then the photo on the right

1:09:47 ↗ is kind of a messy area it's right to

1:09:51 ↗ the west of the

1:09:54 ↗ Monas skull and this will be parking and

1:09:57 ↗ Landscape so uh you can see in the

1:10:00 ↗ background behind the deciduous trees

1:10:03 ↗ that's Loca Street and some mixed

1:10:05 ↗ commercial which is along that

1:10:10 ↗ street uh the s's in the center and I've

1:10:13 ↗ taken some views so you can actually see

1:10:15 ↗ the three streets that are there now

1:10:17 ↗ Gilman Boulevard is in the best shape of

1:10:18 ↗ the of the three streets but uh of

1:10:20 ↗ course it does not meet the street

1:10:22 ↗ standards we'll have to be moved the

1:10:24 ↗ curbing uh a foot

1:10:28 ↗ Southward um to get the uh Street Lanes

1:10:31 ↗ proper the parking strips and

1:10:34 ↗ sidewalks uh some of the trees out there

1:10:36 ↗ have been removed recently I understand

1:10:38 ↗ in this area it's our edible

1:10:40 ↗ landscape uh the filbert trees some of

1:10:43 ↗ them are in bad health and Parks has uh

1:10:46 ↗ taken some out I'm not sure what the

1:10:48 ↗ status is of the trees on this site but

1:10:52 ↗ you know again we want to maintain some

1:10:53 ↗ of this uh Greenery that's part of our

1:10:57 ↗ Greenway established in the city uh 7th

1:11:00 ↗ Avenue is over on the left and it's got

1:11:02 ↗ a little bit of a curvature you can see

1:11:03 ↗ too and again that green uh strip

1:11:06 ↗ between the street and the existing

1:11:09 ↗ store and then Locust Street which

1:11:12 ↗ almost looks Al like today would have

1:11:14 ↗ that 15 ft of dedication and then the

1:11:17 ↗ further Street improvements on its

1:11:20 ↗ northern side to meet the

1:11:22 ↗ standards

1:11:25 ↗ circulation is a key part of it uh the

1:11:28 ↗ heavy lines in the Deep Red are the

1:11:30 ↗ major streets the shared juice

1:11:33 ↗ route uh actually takes two directions

1:11:36 ↗ an East West Direction which you see

1:11:38 ↗ here and then the north south which

1:11:40 ↗ connects from Loca Street up to that

1:11:43 ↗ little plaza where the foot bridge is at

1:11:46 ↗ Gilman

1:11:47 ↗ Boulevard

1:11:49 ↗ uh uh people will want to get a little

1:11:52 ↗ closer view of this qu Creek and so this

1:11:54 ↗ is kind of a little minor Trail 4T wide

1:11:57 ↗ of pervious

1:12:00 ↗ gravel um that'll be the Eastern side of

1:12:04 ↗ the park

1:12:06 ↗ space um the other buildings and

1:12:08 ↗ sidewalks have a series of sidewalk

1:12:10 ↗ connections too and as the appan show

1:12:12 ↗ here's the through block connection here

1:12:14 ↗ that's required when you have uh blocks

1:12:16 ↗ that are greater than 300 ft so this

1:12:18 ↗ kind of brings it down to more of a

1:12:20 ↗ human

1:12:22 ↗ scale

1:12:24 ↗ this part here is in the

1:12:28 ↗ uh the plan the central isqua plan you

1:12:31 ↗ can see

1:12:32 ↗ the

1:12:34 ↗ um streets and the

1:12:37 ↗ sidewalks uh primarily you'll

1:12:43 ↗ see where you have existing

1:12:48 ↗ bikeways proposed bike WS which is in

1:12:51 ↗ the dashed purple

1:12:53 ↗ unlike the solid purple and then where

1:12:56 ↗ you have the green which is dashed

1:12:59 ↗ that's the shared use route which is the

1:13:02 ↗ 12T wide paved uh strip with uh the

1:13:06 ↗ Landscaping on the sides of it too and

1:13:09 ↗ you can see the greater picture of the

1:13:11 ↗ central plan how this will connect to

1:13:13 ↗ these other regions of the city as these

1:13:16 ↗ areas in the future will

1:13:19 ↗ develop uh the idea is to make uh

1:13:22 ↗ pedestrians and bicycles more at par

1:13:24 ↗ with vehicles and so we really want to

1:13:26 ↗ push more pedestrian orientation in this

1:13:30 ↗ plan uh these elements that you see here

1:13:32 ↗ are pushing towards that

1:13:37 ↗ goal the Shar derus took two little

1:13:40 ↗ Snippets from uh the project drawings

1:13:42 ↗ that were given you can see the

1:13:44 ↗ connection here up by 7th this is the

1:13:46 ↗ link that goes across 7th Avenue to the

1:13:51 ↗ isquat Commons shopping center

1:13:54 ↗ uh the route does meander it's got a

1:13:56 ↗ different pavement pattern than the

1:13:57 ↗ other walkways and and definitely

1:13:59 ↗ different than the uh Asphalt in the

1:14:02 ↗ parking lots uh the lower one is the

1:14:04 ↗ sherar Rus route that takes the more

1:14:06 ↗ north south direction that heads up to

1:14:08 ↗ that little foot Bridge uh by the creek

1:14:12 ↗ and that's a real Pleasant spot up there

1:14:13 ↗ if you haven't been up there it's really

1:14:17 ↗ nice the uh Central wad plan calls for a

1:14:21 ↗ a number of parks in the Valley these

1:14:24 ↗ parks are specified to be 2 acres in

1:14:27 ↗ size uh they can be done in pieces and

1:14:30 ↗ uh this site here will not have two

1:14:32 ↗ acres but it does have a fairly good uh

1:14:36 ↗ uh portion of the park you can see it

1:14:38 ↗ extends from Holly Street to the South

1:14:40 ↗ to uh the Interstate 90 Freeway to the

1:14:48 ↗ north the portion of the park uh by the

1:14:51 ↗ uh project is right here the

1:14:54 ↗ neighborhood

1:14:58 ↗ park most of the building or most of the

1:15:01 ↗ parking I should say is contained within

1:15:03 ↗ the buildings below ground the buildings

1:15:05 ↗ are being elevated to be above the

1:15:07 ↗ 100-year flood plane and this area here

1:15:11 ↗ this pad area which is the entrance into

1:15:13 ↗ the two garages are also built higher

1:15:17 ↗ than the 100-year flood plane to uh uh

1:15:20 ↗ keep the water from entering those um

1:15:24 ↗ parking areas there are the two parking

1:15:27 ↗ lots that are surface spaces surface

1:15:30 ↗ Lots I should say uh the small one to

1:15:32 ↗ the North and the Meandering one that

1:15:34 ↗ you see between

1:15:37 ↗ buildings uh a and BC the parking

1:15:41 ↗ garages and BC are actually connected

1:15:43 ↗ together underground the buildings are

1:15:45 ↗ above

1:15:47 ↗ those and U generous amounts of

1:15:49 ↗ landscaping is being placed in the form

1:15:52 ↗ of islands insul is to break up the

1:15:56 ↗ appearance of the asphalt within those

1:15:57 ↗ surface

1:15:59 ↗ Lots uh the parking lots that are on the

1:16:01 ↗ surface do require buffering on the

1:16:04 ↗ sides that's a three foot wide buffer uh

1:16:07 ↗ where you have the shared use or two

1:16:09 ↗ feet I should say that where you have

1:16:11 ↗ the shared use route you'll have the

1:16:15 ↗ twoot buffer plus you'll have the

1:16:17 ↗ three-foot buffer by the parking lot and

1:16:19 ↗ you may have a little bit additional too

1:16:21 ↗ if parking stalls or shortened uh for an

1:16:25 ↗ overhang as well

1:16:27 ↗ too so you can see how that

1:16:30 ↗ works to screen the sides there's a few

1:16:34 ↗ Cuts within the parking areas they're

1:16:36 ↗ about 2 feet wide and this will keep uh

1:16:40 ↗ users in those stalls from trampling

1:16:42 ↗ down the Landscaping but it works nice

1:16:45 ↗ and they're done kind of at uh a regular

1:16:49 ↗ pattern you'll see them down here

1:16:52 ↗ too

1:16:56 ↗ that's the overall site

1:16:57 ↗ plan uh not as colorful as the one we

1:17:00 ↗ just saw but again the existing grova

1:17:02 ↗ trees and the park and the dog park

1:17:06 ↗ which is right where the where grov is

1:17:09 ↗ located uh one time there was going to

1:17:11 ↗ be a a Pea Patch Garden that's been

1:17:14 ↗ taken out of the plan but there is a Pea

1:17:16 ↗ Patch Garden just to the south at the

1:17:17 ↗ city's new park um so that's encouraging

1:17:22 ↗ uh the drainage swell which runs through

1:17:24 ↗ the area that's a large green space you

1:17:27 ↗ can see the buildings a b and c and the

1:17:29 ↗ courtyards which each building has as

1:17:31 ↗ well as the uh the shared Court between

1:17:34 ↗ buildings B and

1:17:39 ↗ C uh most of the green spaces within the

1:17:42 ↗ Park area and along the creek and again

1:17:44 ↗ with the

1:17:46 ↗ Swale so it's definitely is a greening

1:17:49 ↗ of the site from what you see today

1:17:55 ↗ uh there are the uh three main plazas

1:17:57 ↗ for each building and they have the

1:17:59 ↗ connections to the common spaces on the

1:18:01 ↗ first floor of those buildings and then

1:18:03 ↗ the shared uh route between buildings BC

1:18:06 ↗ that runs northward connecting to the

1:18:10 ↗ trails and sidewalks that will connect

1:18:12 ↗ to Gilman

1:18:17 ↗ Boulevard these are enlargements of

1:18:20 ↗ those Courtyards I think the color

1:18:22 ↗ looked a little better but the black and

1:18:23 ↗ white has the same information that you

1:18:26 ↗ just saw so they're fairly active and

1:18:28 ↗ they have

1:18:29 ↗ uh that's a mix of both hard spaces and

1:18:33 ↗ Landscaping uh soft Landscaping

1:18:36 ↗ Courtyard Building C faces

1:18:39 ↗ northward that's what this one here so

1:18:41 ↗ it's going to be a little bit more

1:18:42 ↗ shadier than the other two Courtyards so

1:18:44 ↗ we would ask that some of the trees

1:18:46 ↗ maybe not be quite as large maybe they

1:18:48 ↗ use lighter

1:18:50 ↗ colors uh with the building and um

1:18:53 ↗ Pavements and Furnishings within this

1:18:54 ↗ area 2 to make it a little bit more

1:18:56 ↗ pleasant because it will be a little bit

1:18:57 ↗ on the dark Shady Side um majority of

1:19:00 ↗ the year and we want to use these spaces

1:19:02 ↗ year

1:19:06 ↗ round there were three uh prospective

1:19:10 ↗ drawings in your packet that you were

1:19:12 ↗ given and these are the three buildings

1:19:14 ↗ as well as the one on the lower right

1:19:16 ↗ that's on the cover sheet and there is a

1:19:19 ↗ material board I've got it on this table

1:19:21 ↗ right here too and I'll share that with

1:19:23 ↗ uh with Randy our chair tonight and you

1:19:26 ↗ can you can distribute it among your

1:19:28 ↗ members too to see it a little bit

1:19:29 ↗ closer but it's got uh the three basic

1:19:32 ↗ colors on those Corners that identifies

1:19:35 ↗ the buildings other elements in the

1:19:36 ↗ buildings kind of tie it

1:19:42 ↗ together this is the uh a map from our

1:19:46 ↗ Shoreline master program it's a fairly

1:19:48 ↗ new program that was adopted and as you

1:19:50 ↗ can see with the little red star that's

1:19:52 ↗ thec location of the site it is a

1:19:55 ↗ shoreline commercial mixed use

1:19:56 ↗ designation so it does allow mixed use

1:19:59 ↗ residential and Commercial uh the zoning

1:20:03 ↗ does as well too the applicant has

1:20:05 ↗ proposed um completely developing the

1:20:08 ↗ site with residential with what you see

1:20:10 ↗ tonight there is an option for where

1:20:13 ↗ some units in the future could be taken

1:20:16 ↗ out to allow commercial now the reason

1:20:19 ↗ the shoreline is important too is under

1:20:20 ↗ Shoreline management your building

1:20:23 ↗ Heights are limited to 35 ft in height

1:20:27 ↗ these buildings are all Beyond The 200t

1:20:30 ↗ Mark of the creek so they are not

1:20:32 ↗ subject to the same Heights as charlot

1:20:35 ↗ management and they are built to the uh

1:20:37 ↗ to the standards

1:20:39 ↗ Allowed by the central isqua

1:20:45 ↗ plan that's our

1:20:47 ↗ Creek um it looks actually better there

1:20:50 ↗ than it does uh at other times there's

1:20:52 ↗ uh a lot of non-natives on the left side

1:20:55 ↗ of this that's the the site for the

1:20:58 ↗ seventh at Gilman you've seen the name

1:21:01 ↗ Cadence the night too and that name is

1:21:04 ↗ is changing I don't know if that was

1:21:05 ↗ brought up but it started out as seventh

1:21:08 ↗ that have our seventh at Gilman then to

1:21:11 ↗ Cadence and it will be changing names

1:21:14 ↗ again so you'll see that at our next

1:21:16 ↗ meeting that comes up in May and it's

1:21:19 ↗ not uncommon for names to change a few

1:21:22 ↗ times before it gets to the building

1:21:23 ↗ permit stage and even time sometimes to

1:21:25 ↗ the selling stage or the sold stage um

1:21:29 ↗ so this area that you see on the left

1:21:31 ↗ will be restored as part of the creek

1:21:33 ↗ restoration plan uh you've seen uh a CP

1:21:36 ↗ determination it's in your packet and so

1:21:40 ↗ there's quite a bit of information that

1:21:42 ↗ talks about what will be required here

1:21:44 ↗ in five years of

1:21:46 ↗ monitoring of this uh restored Stream

1:21:51 ↗ area uh uh the next steps after

1:21:53 ↗ tonight's meeting we will be taking

1:21:55 ↗ questions from the development

1:21:56 ↗ commission you may have uh some

1:21:59 ↗ questions about what's been presented

1:22:02 ↗ tonight uh you may have some issues

1:22:04 ↗ about the conditions or something that

1:22:05 ↗ you may even want to add to it too There

1:22:08 ↗ are 16 conditions in the staff report

1:22:12 ↗ and then there's also a number of

1:22:14 ↗ additional questions which are not

1:22:15 ↗ really the site development permit but

1:22:17 ↗ those that would be handled with the

1:22:20 ↗ construction uh in former days we bind

1:22:22 ↗ them together but we find it's a little

1:22:24 ↗ bit easier if we separate the conditions

1:22:27 ↗ in this fashion these construction

1:22:30 ↗ conditions we can still work them out

1:22:31 ↗ with the applicant as the project

1:22:35 ↗ evolves with the sea determination

1:22:37 ↗ there's also 11 conditions placed on

1:22:40 ↗ that

1:22:41 ↗ to uh the sea review is complete it's

1:22:44 ↗ gone through that comment and appeal

1:22:47 ↗ perit so that part is done this will be

1:22:50 ↗ coming back to the development

1:22:51 ↗ Commission on the first first Wednesday

1:22:53 ↗ of May that's May 7th we will be

1:22:55 ↗ preparing a

1:22:57 ↗ briefing uh response for any questions

1:23:00 ↗ that come up where we can research a

1:23:01 ↗ little bit more and then um upon that

1:23:05 ↗ there will be findings the fact prepared

1:23:07 ↗ and they will be signed by the

1:23:09 ↗ chair uh these findings of fact with the

1:23:12 ↗ notice decision then would be mailed out

1:23:15 ↗ and there will be a two-e appeal period

1:23:18 ↗ on that copies of that notice of

1:23:20 ↗ decision will be given to the audience

1:23:21 ↗ too uh if you are on our list as a party

1:23:26 ↗ of record too and then once the twoe

1:23:30 ↗ appeal period is done then we will be

1:23:32 ↗ transmitting the project to the

1:23:34 ↗ Department of ecology to they also have

1:23:36 ↗ a 21 day on their part but their appeal

1:23:39 ↗ period will not start until after our

1:23:42 ↗ period expires uh the applicant would

1:23:45 ↗ still have the ability to work on those

1:23:47 ↗ areas outside of Shoreland management

1:23:48 ↗ though so uh that would include

1:23:50 ↗ demolition of the buildings and other

1:23:53 ↗ site work that would be involved

1:23:55 ↗ too thank

1:23:59 ↗ you Jerry just one quick question of

1:24:01 ↗ clarification before we get into it I

1:24:03 ↗ know we're not supposed to when would

1:24:05 ↗ you tell share with the audience when

1:24:07 ↗ this actually goes to the city council

1:24:10 ↗ this project does not go to the city

1:24:11 ↗ council does not go no the decision

1:24:13 ↗ makers of this project is the

1:24:15 ↗ development commission so it but it used

1:24:17 ↗ to in the previous system we would we

1:24:19 ↗ would make our recommendations no that's

1:24:21 ↗ not true either

1:24:23 ↗ um this was new yeah the site

1:24:25 ↗ development plants have have always been

1:24:28 ↗ approved by the development commission

1:24:30 ↗ uh in some

1:24:32 ↗ cases you had minutes in your packet

1:24:34 ↗ this morning uh as we started the

1:24:36 ↗ meeting for the new isqua middle school

1:24:38 ↗ now the isquad middle school has a dual

1:24:41 ↗ application it has a site development

1:24:43 ↗ permit and because it's 15 Aces and

1:24:46 ↗ greater also has a master site plan to

1:24:49 ↗ it now Master site plans are approved by

1:24:52 ↗ the city council and on the middle

1:24:55 ↗ school which will be coming up to you in

1:24:57 ↗ the future we'll be doing a Consolidated

1:25:00 ↗ review and for the master site plan then

1:25:05 ↗ you will have a recommendation to the

1:25:07 ↗ city council and that's the difference

1:25:09 ↗ between the two if it's just a site

1:25:11 ↗ development permit and adjustment of

1:25:13 ↗ standards that comes with it or a short

1:25:14 ↗ plat with it uh the decision be solely

1:25:18 ↗ with the commission okay so if you look

1:25:20 ↗ at that um that's why we put the chart

1:25:22 ↗ together because we found that um

1:25:24 ↗ several of our commissions are having a

1:25:26 ↗ hard time uh if you look at the second

1:25:28 ↗ line down the DC where it says DC

1:25:33 ↗ roll if you look at the second line down

1:25:35 ↗ DC rooll um you can see under site

1:25:38 ↗ development permit you're the decision

1:25:39 ↗ maker whereas under master site plan

1:25:42 ↗ permit you're making a recommendation to

1:25:45 ↗ council okay um we found that's hard to

1:25:47 ↗ keep all those different roles

1:25:50 ↗ straight I don't think we have too many

1:25:52 ↗ opportunities for more um Master site

1:25:55 ↗ plans in the city most of the the larger

1:25:57 ↗ sites have been taken up and uh

1:25:58 ↗ certainly this Central isqu plan took a

1:26:00 ↗ lot of that space too uh so the isqua

1:26:03 ↗ MCO maybe uh the last one that comes up

1:26:06 ↗ even okay thank you

1:26:09 ↗ Jerry all right we're now entering the

1:26:12 ↗ section of the meeting wherein members

1:26:15 ↗ of the public who wish to make a comment

1:26:17 ↗ or to ask questions of anybody whether

1:26:19 ↗ it's the applicant the staff uh whatever

1:26:22 ↗ may speak again as we've said before if

1:26:24 ↗ you'd like to speak we'd ask you to sign

1:26:26 ↗ your name on the on the sheet there and

1:26:28 ↗ then uh step up to the microphone and

1:26:31 ↗ identify yourself as far as your name

1:26:33 ↗ and your address so if there's anybody

1:26:35 ↗ in the public that would like to make a

1:26:38 ↗ comment on the

1:26:51 ↗ record

1:27:05 ↗ hello uh my name is Kay Johnson I live

1:27:07 ↗ at402 Southeast 46 way in bellw I'm here

1:27:12 ↗ as a a person of longtime interest in uh

1:27:16 ↗ the community of esqua I worked for King

1:27:18 ↗ County library system for 30 years and I

1:27:22 ↗ was instrumental in the downtown library

1:27:24 ↗ development and the King County Library

1:27:26 ↗ service center development here in isqua

1:27:29 ↗ I've also been a vendor at the uh uh

1:27:32 ↗ Gilman Gallery which is one of the

1:27:34 ↗ businesses that uh will be displaced by

1:27:37 ↗ this development for some 10 years now

1:27:41 ↗ uh my comment though uh was aimed at uh

1:27:45 ↗ the project that we have before us here

1:27:47 ↗ uh I thought the uh landscape was

1:27:50 ↗ absolutely fabulous uh I love all the

1:27:52 ↗ shared walkways I think it's going to be

1:27:55 ↗ such a huge Improvement and people are

1:27:57 ↗ really going to love it I wondered

1:28:00 ↗ though about the architecture I really

1:28:03 ↗ felt that the buildings looked a little

1:28:04 ↗ plain particularly in contrast with such

1:28:07 ↗ a complex

1:28:09 ↗ Landscaping uh development and so I

1:28:12 ↗ wondered particularly on the South and

1:28:14 ↗ West sides if there was uh better ways

1:28:16 ↗ of handling solar screening or some way

1:28:19 ↗ to U make the materials on the outside

1:28:22 ↗ of the building seem more Rich the other

1:28:25 ↗ thing that I was thinking of the other

1:28:26 ↗ night as I was on Interstate 90 these

1:28:28 ↗ are going to be tall buildings

1:28:30 ↗ particularly in comparison to the other

1:28:33 ↗ uh buildings on Gilman Boulevard I

1:28:36 ↗ thought well now what's it going to look

1:28:37 ↗ like from Interstate 90 and that may be

1:28:40 ↗ beyond the purview of this particular

1:28:42 ↗ commission but I thought this is what as

1:28:45 ↗ a newcomer I'm going to see as a isqua

1:28:48 ↗ because most people are on the

1:28:50 ↗ interstate unless they they move south

1:28:52 ↗ of here and so I really wondered what

1:28:55 ↗ kind of impact that would have on

1:28:57 ↗ people's uh thoughts about isqua it was

1:29:00 ↗ kind of a bigger visioning process that

1:29:02 ↗ I was thinking about instead of just

1:29:05 ↗ looking at okay I'm going to live here

1:29:07 ↗ I'm going to write a bus I'm going to

1:29:09 ↗ shop at Safeway I wanted to look at a

1:29:11 ↗ little bit further back about what the

1:29:13 ↗ impact would be thank

1:29:20 ↗ you

1:29:33 ↗ oh please print clearly too for

1:29:37 ↗ us she's a

1:29:39 ↗ librarian

1:29:44 ↗ good my name is uh Blake flood I live at

1:29:48 ↗ 24213 Southeast 40th Place in isqua uh

1:29:52 ↗ you probably didn't want to have a flood

1:29:53 ↗ for another hundred years but here I am

1:29:56 ↗ and that's that's really my my kind of

1:29:58 ↗ overreaching concern is is this is a

1:30:00 ↗ site I walk by every day five days a

1:30:03 ↗ week I work downtown um I I understand

1:30:07 ↗ what's been done to

1:30:09 ↗ to basically protect the building from

1:30:12 ↗ water I've been in the construction

1:30:14 ↗ industry for 35 years I have my doubts I

1:30:17 ↗ I understand there's professionals

1:30:19 ↗ involved but I I've seen some things uh

1:30:22 ↗ my I know from history I've lived here

1:30:24 ↗ for 21 years I've seen the site flood

1:30:27 ↗ several times it's it's typically a

1:30:30 ↗ gathering of people saying you know it's

1:30:32 ↗ 12 cars and and a lot of empty

1:30:34 ↗ businesses but it doesn't impact a lot

1:30:35 ↗ of people uh with this

1:30:37 ↗ building uh if the water is a problem

1:30:40 ↗ and it will be at some point you're

1:30:42 ↗ impacting 300 if there's one person in

1:30:44 ↗ each apartment a lot of vehicles and uh

1:30:48 ↗ potentially the city of isqua where do

1:30:49 ↗ those people go so it just seems like it

1:30:52 ↗ impacts a lot of people if you compare

1:30:54 ↗ it to what we see now uh second thing is

1:30:56 ↗ the uh mixed use portion I

1:31:01 ↗ know kind of from the isqua plan what

1:31:04 ↗ I've seen I like the idea that it's a

1:31:07 ↗ it's it's true mixed use there's retail

1:31:09 ↗ there's there's a variety of things this

1:31:10 ↗ is very single use which I understand

1:31:12 ↗ why I understand that a

1:31:14 ↗ retail business is not going to want to

1:31:17 ↗ be in an area that floods so it's not

1:31:19 ↗ going to be like your lenar development

1:31:21 ↗ in uh West Seattle where you have a

1:31:24 ↗ Whole Foods down below I I understand

1:31:26 ↗ that but to me so to me it's the wrong

1:31:29 ↗ thing for the wrong it's the wrong thing

1:31:31 ↗ for the site that's just my personal

1:31:32 ↗ thing but I think it needs to be said uh

1:31:36 ↗ the other thing

1:31:37 ↗ was uh what the previous lady mentioned

1:31:40 ↗ visibility I think lenar gets some great

1:31:43 ↗ visibility it's the biggest thing you're

1:31:45 ↗ going to see from my 90 uh they get

1:31:49 ↗ Great Schools recently the tag most most

1:31:51 ↗ livable City uh there's a lot of

1:31:55 ↗ benefits to them I'm not sure we get the

1:31:57 ↗ same benefits no

1:31:58 ↗ offense um and then I don't know maybe

1:32:01 ↗ this question has been asked I don't

1:32:02 ↗ know were there tax

1:32:04 ↗ credits for this project none on okay

1:32:08 ↗ and and that's really all I had to say

1:32:11 ↗ so thank you is there anyone else any

1:32:14 ↗ other member of the public that wants to

1:32:20 ↗ speak

1:32:33 ↗ so my name is Connie Marsh and I have a

1:32:35 ↗ store at 1175 Northwest Gilman Boulevard

1:32:37 ↗ and also live here in

1:32:41 ↗ isqua

1:32:43 ↗ um and I think most people's concerns

1:32:47 ↗ are and continue to be the veracity of

1:32:51 ↗ the flooding situation and so one of the

1:32:55 ↗ things that is interesting is that it

1:32:57 ↗ will still flood and so when you bring a

1:33:02 ↗ bunch of people into Apartments where

1:33:04 ↗ they may not be familiar with the area

1:33:07 ↗ um they might not even understand

1:33:10 ↗ because nobody really reads that in the

1:33:14 ↗ middle of the night one night they might

1:33:16 ↗ become surrounded by water and there

1:33:18 ↗ does not seem to be a Street or a

1:33:23 ↗ sidewalk that would not be covered with

1:33:26 ↗ water and so they could be stranded in

1:33:30 ↗ or out of their apartments for some

1:33:33 ↗ period of time and there does not seem

1:33:36 ↗ to be a code in the city against that it

1:33:40 ↗ seems minimally at least unwise to me uh

1:33:44 ↗ but the only thing I can do to offset

1:33:47 ↗ that is ask for some sort of plan that

1:33:51 ↗ they would get a package telling them

1:33:54 ↗ what they're supposed to do when that

1:33:57 ↗ happens so that there isn't a panic

1:33:59 ↗ because they say well it's only six or

1:34:01 ↗ eight inches of water but in the dark

1:34:03 ↗ for example you don't know how deep it

1:34:05 ↗ is and you're always told well don't go

1:34:06 ↗ into flood waters and if you aren't used

1:34:08 ↗ to it I think it I I think you need to

1:34:11 ↗ educate people on that and also tell

1:34:14 ↗ them you know where they can look up the

1:34:17 ↗ information to see if a flood is coming

1:34:19 ↗ because it's not intuitive and I didn't

1:34:22 ↗ see a condition of that sort uh we're

1:34:26 ↗ also right next to isqua Creek and I

1:34:29 ↗ didn't see anywhere that there would be

1:34:31 ↗ ccnr requirements for what herbicides

1:34:35 ↗ pesticides or use things you could use

1:34:38 ↗ uh throughout the area to prevent uh

1:34:42 ↗ harm going into the critical areas I

1:34:45 ↗ didn't see signage requirements

1:34:48 ↗ educating people on the interface with

1:34:51 ↗ the Creek why it's that way and I

1:34:53 ↗ believe in the river and streams

1:34:55 ↗ meetings they seemed uh reasonably

1:34:57 ↗ interested in creating some sort of an

1:34:59 ↗ interpretive structure about the creek

1:35:03 ↗ uh if you're having all of these

1:35:04 ↗ walkways it seems like you should also

1:35:07 ↗ entertain people and teach them about

1:35:10 ↗ the great area that we live in and I

1:35:11 ↗ didn't I didn't see any of of those I

1:35:15 ↗ guess I would call them amenities

1:35:18 ↗ they're they're doing a lot um one of

1:35:20 ↗ the things they're doing is they're

1:35:21 ↗ bringing

1:35:22 ↗ in if they actually put all those plants

1:35:24 ↗ in they're bringing in this amazing

1:35:26 ↗ pallet of plants that someone is

1:35:29 ↗ actually going to have to know what

1:35:30 ↗ they're doing in order to keep that

1:35:33 ↗ amazing pallet of native vegetation

1:35:36 ↗ functioning and what that is likely to

1:35:38 ↗ be is don't do anything don't try to

1:35:40 ↗ turn it into a box or a circle like most

1:35:43 ↗ of the commercial areas that take the

1:35:45 ↗ native plants and try to make

1:35:49 ↗ squares but people don't know that and

1:35:54 ↗ so we we have some decent examples in

1:35:56 ↗ town and that's the new medical center

1:35:58 ↗ on the north side of the freeway and the

1:36:00 ↗ isqua highlands when they can keep up

1:36:02 ↗ actually do a pretty good job and I

1:36:04 ↗ don't know how you write a condition to

1:36:06 ↗ say if you're going to spend your money

1:36:09 ↗ on doing this make make it look awesome

1:36:13 ↗ long term right

1:36:16 ↗ and so you can have fun with that one uh

1:36:21 ↗ the other situation is when it

1:36:25 ↗ floods that is very powerful and it's

1:36:27 ↗ likely to wipe out a lot of the

1:36:29 ↗ vegetation that's on the creek they're

1:36:31 ↗ going to have a 5-year establishment

1:36:33 ↗ period for the buffer vegetation I just

1:36:36 ↗ want to be sure that that is maintained

1:36:40 ↗ in

1:36:41 ↗ perpetuity um and would be considered

1:36:43 ↗ Landscaping rather than buffer

1:36:45 ↗ vegetation because I think there's the

1:36:48 ↗ code in our landscape code that says you

1:36:50 ↗ have to Main maintain your Landscaping

1:36:52 ↗ in perpetuity that is correct okay so

1:36:55 ↗ then also in the Swale where they're

1:36:57 ↗ planting all of those plants when it

1:37:00 ↗ floods what's going to happen is all the

1:37:02 ↗ muck goes into the Swale and then

1:37:04 ↗ they'll have to clear out the sale

1:37:06 ↗ because it's flood capacity and they're

1:37:07 ↗ going to be clearing out all their

1:37:08 ↗ little plants with the

1:37:10 ↗ Bobcat um and so that also needs to be

1:37:13 ↗ considered Landscaping because well the

1:37:16 ↗ plants would probably love the muck the

1:37:18 ↗ capacity doesn't like the Muk and so

1:37:20 ↗ that would be I think that needs to be

1:37:22 ↗ clear that that needs to happen long

1:37:26 ↗ term and let's see oh so much of the

1:37:30 ↗ central issaqua plan was about the view

1:37:33 ↗ peekaboo views of the

1:37:35 ↗ Alps and I didn't see when I just went

1:37:38 ↗ through the language again I don't see

1:37:41 ↗ where in our guidelines we say okay have

1:37:45 ↗ we checked all of the courtyards have we

1:37:48 ↗ checked how we're angling the um

1:37:51 ↗ separations between the buildings or the

1:37:54 ↗ trails to get the views of the mountains

1:37:56 ↗ that we're trying to protect because you

1:37:59 ↗ know Jerry was showing us tiger I saw

1:38:01 ↗ squawk I saw I saw all kinds of places

1:38:04 ↗ so

1:38:05 ↗ um I think that needs to be considered

1:38:08 ↗ here and then try to figure out how we

1:38:09 ↗ put that into the plan Al

1:38:12 ↗ together

1:38:16 ↗ restrictions

1:38:18 ↗ uh okay I think that's all that I have

1:38:22 ↗ here I would like to say I I I agree

1:38:25 ↗ that you got a lot of vegetation and

1:38:27 ↗ then you have these very Stern looking

1:38:29 ↗ buildings um and I think a lot of that

1:38:32 ↗ is there's no variation at all in the

1:38:34 ↗ roof lines and that seems awkward it's

1:38:38 ↗ very severe up here and then you got all

1:38:41 ↗ this going on down here it seems like a

1:38:44 ↗ little bit of moderation and the color

1:38:47 ↗ palette caution and can we have some

1:38:50 ↗ like Bears peeking out Out Underneath

1:38:51 ↗ benches or something to amuse us in a

1:38:54 ↗ silly way as we go around

1:38:56 ↗ thanks thank you is there anyone

1:39:01 ↗ else all right we will now come to the

1:39:04 ↗ oh I'm sorry

1:39:07 ↗ sorry sorry for my tness um good evening

1:39:10 ↗ members of the commission uh my name is

1:39:12 ↗ Matthew bot and I'm here as a citizen as

1:39:14 ↗ well as representing the greater es

1:39:15 ↗ squat Chamber of Commerce and I just

1:39:17 ↗ wanted to offer our our general support

1:39:19 ↗ and excitement about this plan uh

1:39:21 ↗ something I've become a little more

1:39:22 ↗ familiar with in the past few weeks and

1:39:24 ↗ I understand it's the first under the

1:39:26 ↗ the central roqu plan or one of the

1:39:28 ↗ first obviously so certainly has

1:39:30 ↗ precedence and um something that U is

1:39:32 ↗ important from that perspective and so

1:39:35 ↗ um adding to the momentum of the

1:39:36 ↗ Redevelopment goals of the plan and of

1:39:38 ↗ the community so I think that's

1:39:40 ↗ important um I I think it goes without

1:39:42 ↗ saying but the you know this plan

1:39:44 ↗ represents substantial Improvement to

1:39:45 ↗ this parcel along one of the major

1:39:47 ↗ thorough fares of the community um the

1:39:51 ↗ the uh the the trails the plazas the the

1:39:54 ↗ the the space that's created there I

1:39:55 ↗ think is pretty special um I really

1:39:58 ↗ appreciate the safety issues um along

1:40:01 ↗ that are addressed in terms of the light

1:40:03 ↗ um the the um uh the median changes I

1:40:08 ↗ know we've had members of our staff that

1:40:10 ↗ have had accidents in that that area and

1:40:11 ↗ there's been that's just a trouble spot

1:40:13 ↗ in the community so addressing that

1:40:15 ↗ through the median uh changes and the

1:40:17 ↗ the light are are pretty important and I

1:40:19 ↗ think I appreciate the applicants uh

1:40:21 ↗ attention to that um I'm also privileged

1:40:24 ↗ to serve on the economic Vitality

1:40:25 ↗ commission uh pure commission to this

1:40:27 ↗ commission and I I know we spend a lot

1:40:29 ↗ of time uh looking at Workforce housing

1:40:32 ↗ issues um which are pretty severe as you

1:40:34 ↗ know um and um getting housing of this

1:40:38 ↗ nature at this price point on the valley

1:40:40 ↗ floor is pretty important um both to the

1:40:43 ↗ large businesses in town and to the

1:40:44 ↗ small businesses uh the chambers and

1:40:46 ↗ employe are V individuals and we we

1:40:48 ↗ suffer from that uh in trying to find

1:40:51 ↗ folks with uh uh who can who can afford

1:40:53 ↗ to live here so um housing at this price

1:40:55 ↗ point I think makes a lot of sense from

1:40:56 ↗ that perspective whether you're talking

1:40:58 ↗ to the business Community or human

1:41:00 ↗ service agencies they'll say you know

1:41:02 ↗ this is this is the right thing to do um

1:41:04 ↗ long term for uh for economic

1:41:06 ↗ sustainability and to support uh folks

1:41:08 ↗ who can live and work in the same

1:41:10 ↗ Community um so that that's important

1:41:12 ↗ and then a just in a little esoteric uh

1:41:14 ↗ piece this really is a project among

1:41:16 ↗ many other projects that will support

1:41:18 ↗ job creation um in our community and I

1:41:21 ↗ can tell you that the businesses in the

1:41:22 ↗ I think it's the isqua commons that are

1:41:24 ↗ sort of next door they're really excited

1:41:26 ↗ about this obviously uh those are all

1:41:28 ↗ retail businesses and this is new

1:41:30 ↗ customers for them so um just overall

1:41:32 ↗ just we're real supportive of it we

1:41:34 ↗ appreciate your attention to this and

1:41:36 ↗ and uh the work of the applicant and

1:41:37 ↗ trying to address the needs of the

1:41:39 ↗ community and the and the goals and the

1:41:41 ↗ the thoughts and uh thank you for your

1:41:44 ↗ time thank you sir would you Matthew

1:41:49 ↗ would you sign if you didn't you sign it

1:41:50 ↗ please go

1:41:56 ↗ ahead hi there my name is Ethan sherard

1:41:59 ↗ and I'm a resident of bellw I live at

1:42:02 ↗ 5027 159th Place Southeast uh I've been

1:42:06 ↗ working at the Antiques Mall on the site

1:42:08 ↗ for about two years now and I'm also

1:42:11 ↗ going to school at the University of

1:42:12 ↗ Washington I'm studying mechanical

1:42:15 ↗ engineering um I think I think the

1:42:17 ↗ project is very very exciting I like the

1:42:21 ↗ green spaces I like the shared use

1:42:23 ↗ Pathways I like the courtyards I think

1:42:27 ↗ there's been a lot of consideration put

1:42:29 ↗ into amenities that are going to be

1:42:31 ↗ available to both the residents and to

1:42:32 ↗ the public um I just wanted to present

1:42:36 ↗ one concern I had about earthquake

1:42:38 ↗ safety uh I've read

1:42:40 ↗ the uh I've read the geotechnical

1:42:44 ↗ feasibility evaluation that lenar got

1:42:47 ↗ from pangio Incorporated which uh made

1:42:50 ↗ some recommendations about what kind of

1:42:52 ↗ foundation should

1:42:53 ↗ be uh built with the building and um in

1:42:59 ↗ that feasibility

1:43:01 ↗ evaluation the soil was was uh there was

1:43:06 ↗ a number of B holes done to discover the

1:43:08 ↗ various layers present in the soil and

1:43:12 ↗ in that

1:43:13 ↗ evaluation the soil was R was ruled

1:43:16 ↗ likely not to liquefy in an earthquake

1:43:19 ↗ at a depth of oh let's see yeah at a

1:43:24 ↗ depth of less than 23 ft so there so

1:43:28 ↗ there is soil likely to liquefy but not

1:43:31 ↗ above 23 ft is what this evaluation said

1:43:35 ↗ and my concern is simply that uh I've

1:43:37 ↗ spoken with a dealer who was present on

1:43:39 ↗ the site multiple dealers were present

1:43:41 ↗ on the site in the 2001 earthquake and

1:43:43 ↗ there were a lot of undulations and

1:43:46 ↗ ripples going on at the surface of the

1:43:48 ↗ parking lot so I doubt that the lique I

1:43:52 ↗ doubt the liquefaction is limited to

1:43:55 ↗ depths of greater than 23 ft and if

1:43:58 ↗ that's the case then the simple floating

1:44:01 ↗ Foundation that they plan might uh tilt

1:44:06 ↗ and present a greater

1:44:08 ↗ deformation than this deenal feasibility

1:44:11 ↗ evaluation allows for and my only

1:44:14 ↗ concern is that perhaps a different kind

1:44:16 ↗ of foundation might be better one that

1:44:19 ↗ uh sends p down to former soil or uses

1:44:23 ↗ packed rocks in ways that the uh in ways

1:44:26 ↗ that the geot technical feasibility

1:44:27 ↗ evaluation actually recommends the

1:44:29 ↗ floating Foundation was the lowest

1:44:31 ↗ recommended uh foundation in this report

1:44:34 ↗ so I have a short letter I just like to

1:44:36 ↗ be able to leave it with the council I

1:44:38 ↗ have five copies of it and uh oh I have

1:44:41 ↗ one I have one question before uh before

1:44:44 ↗ I finish for Jerry thanks and uh Jerry

1:44:49 ↗ my question for you was you said said

1:44:50 ↗ that there might be opportunities to

1:44:52 ↗ replace some of the units with retail

1:44:54 ↗ spaces in the future that is possible

1:44:57 ↗ yes and uh what would that be just some

1:45:01 ↗ of the ground floor units some ground

1:45:03 ↗ floor

1:45:04 ↗ units and then the retail 7th would have

1:45:07 ↗ access from the parking spaces that are

1:45:09 ↗ on the property or parking spaces that

1:45:11 ↗ are on

1:45:12 ↗ sth well if it's retail they could use

1:45:15 ↗ those parking stalls on seven okay they

1:45:18 ↗ get full credit for it all right all

1:45:20 ↗ right thank you thank you very

1:45:21 ↗ much thank you is there anyone

1:45:34 ↗ else just talking here I don't do these

1:45:36 ↗ things I'm really shy okay I'm Darlene

1:45:40 ↗ Cohen um I don't know where I reside I

1:45:43 ↗ guess I reside at 625 Northwest Gilman

1:45:46 ↗ Boulevard because I'm there about 12

1:45:48 ↗ hours every day I own Gilman

1:45:52 ↗ gallery and as Tom knows and he's been

1:45:55 ↗ very darling and very sweet and

1:45:56 ↗ extremely supportive know you have you

1:45:59 ↗ have you have um there's no retail space

1:46:03 ↗ in isqua you're going to be losing the

1:46:06 ↗ business that's the only business in

1:46:08 ↗ this town that wins Awards king five 425

1:46:12 ↗ magazine I could go on and I could name

1:46:15 ↗ them we are named in the Seattle

1:46:17 ↗ magazines as one of the five

1:46:18 ↗ destinations to go outside of Seattle

1:46:20 ↗ for the tourist and you're going to lose

1:46:22 ↗ this there's no

1:46:24 ↗ retail when you have no retail you also

1:46:27 ↗ have no

1:46:29 ↗ employment and though I love what

1:46:32 ↗ they're

1:46:32 ↗ doing I wish that they were supplying

1:46:35 ↗ jobs because in

1:46:37 ↗ America our biggest problem is

1:46:41 ↗ unemployment so this is a mixed use even

1:46:44 ↗ when they put a contract on this and you

1:46:47 ↗ know what Gilman Square looked like it

1:46:50 ↗ was

1:46:51 ↗ full except for one area where the

1:46:54 ↗ electrical boxes are they left that

1:46:56 ↗ little teeny space where sisters used to

1:46:57 ↗ be in because they needed access to the

1:46:59 ↗ electrical the main

1:47:01 ↗ panels and Gilman has been here for what

1:47:04 ↗ almost 30 years we're a

1:47:07 ↗ destination I can't tell you how many

1:47:09 ↗ people from out of state even come into

1:47:11 ↗ our Mall just not on a monthly basis but

1:47:14 ↗ on a daily basis let

1:47:17 ↗ alone I don't think you guys I mean

1:47:19 ↗ there's a lot of you here that shop in

1:47:21 ↗ my mall and I see you practically two or

1:47:23 ↗ three times a day I mean you know I they

1:47:26 ↗ I just can't tell you that this town

1:47:28 ↗ needs retail it needs to supply jobs for

1:47:31 ↗ those people who are going to be living

1:47:33 ↗ in buildings that you're building where

1:47:35 ↗ are they going to work if you do not

1:47:37 ↗ supply jobs to them that's all I've got

1:47:39 ↗ to say oh by the way Gilman's going to

1:47:41 ↗ be leaving is aore because there's no

1:47:43 ↗ space there's no

1:47:48 ↗ retail thank you

1:47:58 ↗ hi I'm Sandy Marshall and I'm a resident

1:48:00 ↗ of samamish and I'm one of the hundred

1:48:03 ↗ small businesses in currently in Gilman

1:48:05 ↗ square that uh we'll be looking for a

1:48:08 ↗ new place to do business I'd like that

1:48:09 ↗ to be isqua but we're getting less

1:48:13 ↗ commercial space now instead of more one

1:48:16 ↗ concern that I have is just being

1:48:18 ↗ someone who parks and drives isqua

1:48:20 ↗ almost daily and because of Gilman

1:48:23 ↗ Square it brings me to isqua from the

1:48:26 ↗ plateau I may change I may start going

1:48:29 ↗ to the highlands I may start going to

1:48:32 ↗ Redmond as my where I do my banking my

1:48:35 ↗ post office my shopping my grocery

1:48:38 ↗ shopping because again there's going to

1:48:39 ↗ be less retail uh for me and my place of

1:48:42 ↗ business but one concern because I I

1:48:45 ↗ drive uh Gilman Boulevard every day is I

1:48:49 ↗ look at the parking and I see the 400

1:48:51 ↗ parking spaces and when I do the math of

1:48:54 ↗ 344 units and I'm going to say I'm uh

1:48:58 ↗ I'm not sure but I'm going to say 1.5

1:49:02 ↗ cars per unit between one two-bedroom

1:49:04 ↗ and a lot of times uh at this price

1:49:07 ↗ point in apartments there's two people

1:49:09 ↗ uh sharing apartments and splitting the

1:49:11 ↗ rent um I get

1:49:14 ↗ 56 and I see 400 spaces including

1:49:17 ↗ underground and outside

1:49:20 ↗ um if anyone tries to park on the street

1:49:23 ↗ in

1:49:24 ↗ isqua uh I'm not sure where a hundred

1:49:27 ↗ more cars are going to go so it seems

1:49:30 ↗ like there may need to be some provision

1:49:33 ↗ for this if there is an impact that

1:49:36 ↗ there needs to be a condition because

1:49:39 ↗ this complex would be putting those 100

1:49:41 ↗ cars I don't know where and um so I

1:49:45 ↗ think that's just something for the

1:49:46 ↗ commission uh to think about thank you

1:49:52 ↗ is there anyone

1:50:12 ↗ else good evening my name is Suzanne

1:50:14 ↗ Suter I live at 133 140th Place

1:50:18 ↗ Northeast in bellw and I do have um a

1:50:22 ↗ picture that I would like to share with

1:50:25 ↗ with you uh if it's possible um perhaps

1:50:29 ↗ Jerry if I could share I only made three

1:50:31 ↗ of them but okay that be

1:50:34 ↗ fine can we keep you can have them yes

1:50:38 ↗ you can have them you can see I they're

1:50:41 ↗ just just

1:50:42 ↗ pictures um having moved to isqua in

1:50:47 ↗ 1964 I've seen a lot of Chang

1:50:50 ↗ and um although I don't live in isqua

1:50:54 ↗ anymore uh but have certainly spent most

1:50:56 ↗ of my adult life here and working here

1:50:59 ↗ as well uh the Reed Redevelopment of

1:51:02 ↗ this Gilman Square I think is long

1:51:06 ↗ overdue I remember being absolutely

1:51:08 ↗ thrilled when uh the Hyo shopping center

1:51:11 ↗ was built when before it was just a cow

1:51:13 ↗ pasture and Georgie Porgy Bakery some of

1:51:16 ↗ you are way too young to remember all of

1:51:18 ↗ those things but it was very exciting

1:51:19 ↗ because when moved here in ' 64 we

1:51:21 ↗ didn't have a shopping mall we had to go

1:51:23 ↗ to

1:51:23 ↗ bellw so I having taken a long hard look

1:51:28 ↗ at this property in its present

1:51:31 ↗ condition which I think

1:51:33 ↗ has been less than desirable for a

1:51:36 ↗ number of years and having witnessed the

1:51:39 ↗ uh floods even seeing pictures in the

1:51:41 ↗ paper with one of the floods with a rbo

1:51:43 ↗ out in the middle of the parking lot

1:51:45 ↗ people sitting in a rowboat that was

1:51:46 ↗ able to float that's how deep it was I

1:51:50 ↗ believe this property deserves the time

1:51:53 ↗ and Innovation to create a silk purse

1:51:56 ↗ out of a

1:51:57 ↗ saer an opportunity not to be missed

1:52:00 ↗ when you step back and take a real

1:52:02 ↗ serious look at all of the structures

1:52:04 ↗ along Gilman Boulevard which when I

1:52:08 ↗ moved here it was Highway 10 and when we

1:52:11 ↗ created this Boulevard a lot of the

1:52:13 ↗ architecture has not really been

1:52:15 ↗ indicative of a Boulevard so I think

1:52:17 ↗ that this Prime piece of property

1:52:19 ↗ although

1:52:20 ↗ if life was perfect I must say that the

1:52:23 ↗ auto part store and the the drive-in I

1:52:27 ↗ wish that they'd go they they'd be moved

1:52:29 ↗ so that it could be an a total open

1:52:31 ↗ space because looking back at it through

1:52:33 ↗ the lens of that particular picture with

1:52:36 ↗ the isqua Alps with squawk mountain in

1:52:38 ↗ the background and setting it back as

1:52:40 ↗ The Architects have designed I think is

1:52:43 ↗ highly

1:52:44 ↗ desirable

1:52:46 ↗ um the thing that I agree with many of

1:52:49 ↗ the the remarks that have been made is

1:52:51 ↗ the scale and the scope of the buildings

1:52:53 ↗ themselves I think that uh in view of

1:52:56 ↗ all of this emphasis on the on the uh

1:53:00 ↗ landscape which is extraordinary almost

1:53:03 ↗ building a forest out there uh and the

1:53:05 ↗ pathways are remarkable to build the

1:53:08 ↗ links that we all cherish with the park

1:53:10 ↗ with the walkways and Pathways along our

1:53:13 ↗ stream and connecting all the dots

1:53:15 ↗ throughout our community from the lake

1:53:16 ↗ to the Hatchery and so on but I do think

1:53:20 ↗ that a hard look needs to be looked at

1:53:22 ↗ this architecture because I think it's

1:53:23 ↗ very uninteresting in comparison to all

1:53:26 ↗ the emphasis on the um on on the

1:53:30 ↗ landscape itself so I'm thrilled with

1:53:32 ↗ the fact that something hopefully

1:53:35 ↗ marvelous will come of it and I Look to

1:53:37 ↗ all of you to making marvelous decisions

1:53:40 ↗ thank you thank you

1:53:46 ↗ Suzanne if there are no further public

1:53:49 ↗ comments we will now turn uh to the

1:53:53 ↗ commission and we're going to I'm going

1:53:55 ↗ to do things a little differently in

1:53:56 ↗ keeping with the tone of the evening um

1:53:59 ↗ I'm just going to make an observation I

1:54:01 ↗ alluded at the beginning of the meeting

1:54:02 ↗ uh to the fact that there is an unusual

1:54:04 ↗ Confluence of events that's going on

1:54:06 ↗ right now in isqua we all know that the

1:54:09 ↗ economy has uh affected isqua as it has

1:54:12 ↗ every other part of the country and um

1:54:14 ↗ the fact that we haven't met since

1:54:16 ↗ August and August was the first meeting

1:54:18 ↗ in about maybe a year

1:54:20 ↗ uh is indicative of the change of pace

1:54:22 ↗ for for us here uh that's changing we

1:54:26 ↗ all know the econom is getting better

1:54:27 ↗ and it just so happens and this is the

1:54:29 ↗ point of my uh my observation not a

1:54:31 ↗ comment I hope is that the residents of

1:54:34 ↗ isqua right now are faced with a real

1:54:36 ↗ great opportunity and that opportunity

1:54:39 ↗ is to evaluate two different approaches

1:54:43 ↗ to

1:54:44 ↗ growth as we speak there

1:54:48 ↗ are there is a proposal to take 49 Acres

1:54:52 ↗ of

1:54:53 ↗ forest and cut it down and build about

1:54:56 ↗ 350 residential

1:54:59 ↗ units at the periphery of the city

1:55:02 ↗ limits and then there is this project

1:55:06 ↗ which proposes to take about seven acres

1:55:08 ↗ that is already asphalt covered and put

1:55:11 ↗ about 344 units in it I would suggest

1:55:15 ↗ that this is a textbook example of

1:55:18 ↗ different approaches

1:55:20 ↗ to growth and to development and it's a

1:55:22 ↗ real good opportunity for us to

1:55:24 ↗ individually look at it and make some

1:55:27 ↗ decisions about what we think is best

1:55:28 ↗ for the future of

1:55:30 ↗ Visa so with that I will turn it over to

1:55:34 ↗ commissioner

1:55:37 ↗ Morgan

1:55:39 ↗ oh commissioner

1:55:42 ↗ Morgan make sure I have this on

1:55:46 ↗ um and I'll just I guess go through some

1:55:48 ↗ questions Jerry and they may seem random

1:55:53 ↗ um the I guess first question is on the

1:55:56 ↗ two

1:55:58 ↗ driveways from Gilman with the

1:56:00 ↗ relocation of the

1:56:02 ↗ driveway it looks like we're going to

1:56:04 ↗ have two driveways that'll be about 60

1:56:06 ↗ feet apart the existing one into the KFC

1:56:09 ↗ and

1:56:10 ↗ the there is one uh between the KFC and

1:56:14 ↗ O'Reilly's 2o you're right yeah till

1:56:18 ↗ that site gets red developed uh I guess

1:56:21 ↗ I was wondering about um are we going to

1:56:24 ↗ have would we be able to pull up a the

1:56:27 ↗ site plan so we can look at

1:56:32 ↗ this guess my concern is when I first

1:56:35 ↗ saw that I wondered

1:56:38 ↗ about you want an existing

1:56:41 ↗ plan well or the new one

1:56:47 ↗ showing so I guess that one so so the so

1:56:50 ↗ that new driveway that's the driveway

1:56:53 ↗ the new driveway that's being driveway

1:56:55 ↗ there moved uh Eastward right so we're

1:56:58 ↗ going to have three driveways within

1:57:00 ↗ maybe 120 ft or so you will yes is

1:57:04 ↗ that traic engineering it's not the best

1:57:08 ↗ solution for us uh I guess we would

1:57:11 ↗ prefer to see if we could eliminate that

1:57:13 ↗ one between the

1:57:16 ↗ KFC um but it's not part of the project

1:57:19 ↗ it's off site well there is spacing but

1:57:24 ↗ I I would you be would it be all right

1:57:27 ↗ if the applicant spoke because I think

1:57:28 ↗ they have more familiarity with um some

1:57:30 ↗ of the requirements they're facing in

1:57:32 ↗ terms of driveways yeah it's true and

1:57:35 ↗ and that property owner oh sure I'm I'm

1:57:38 ↗ happy with that but also it always seems

1:57:39 ↗ to me in the past we've heard the city

1:57:41 ↗ raising concern about distance between

1:57:45 ↗ driveways and I don't know maybe this is

1:57:47 ↗ acceptable but

1:57:51 ↗ I'd

1:57:56 ↗ love there actually has been quite a bit

1:57:58 ↗ of discussion about this between

1:57:59 ↗ ourselves and the staff and we all

1:58:02 ↗ recognize that this is not the most

1:58:05 ↗ ideal

1:58:07 ↗ situation uh What uh is sort of behind

1:58:13 ↗ um part of the uh traffic Arrangement

1:58:17 ↗ here is that there are some

1:58:20 ↗ unusual uh easements and

1:58:24 ↗ requirements uh placed on the property

1:58:27 ↗ that lar is developing by the adjacent

1:58:31 ↗ property

1:58:32 ↗ owner and for instance uh uh provide

1:58:37 ↗ this is the property line uh but

1:58:39 ↗ providing uh access around this site uh

1:58:44 ↗ in order to service that property was

1:58:47 ↗ written into uh the legal agreement

1:58:51 ↗ between the owners U at a time in the

1:58:54 ↗ past uh in addition to that uh the

1:58:58 ↗ reason why we have um this bridge across

1:59:03 ↗ the sale here is because there is a a

1:59:06 ↗ cross property easement which is uh

1:59:09 ↗ required to allow uh this the property

1:59:14 ↗ uh I've lost this property to have

1:59:18 ↗ access to this property clear clearly

1:59:21 ↗ when it was all surface parking retail

1:59:25 ↗ there was reasons you know behind all of

1:59:28 ↗ these uh uh and then in addition to that

1:59:33 ↗ um there is a driveway here which

1:59:36 ↗ actually has an easement which is

1:59:38 ↗ running across the area of the property

1:59:41 ↗ um where we're not developing and and it

1:59:43 ↗ is actually falling within the the

1:59:45 ↗ shoreline uh area so having said said

1:59:49 ↗ that um we are making the first step

1:59:53 ↗ towards improving the traffic uh access

1:59:59 ↗ to these sites um the existing uh

2:00:04 ↗ driveway is actually coming uh through

2:00:07 ↗ here and sweeps around uh and comes into

2:00:11 ↗ the property like this with

2:00:14 ↗ the uh requirement to have the

2:00:19 ↗ signalized intersection that driveway

2:00:22 ↗ has to be

2:00:24 ↗ relocated uh it is too close it's

2:00:26 ↗ actually too close to the uh seventh and

2:00:29 ↗ Gilman intersection and it actually

2:00:31 ↗ creates um uh it is uh it is where the

2:00:36 ↗ current break is in the

2:00:39 ↗ median uh and is actually responsible

2:00:42 ↗ for a dangerous cross

2:00:45 ↗ Boulevard uh access point uh at that

2:00:48 ↗ place place so that uh danger and the

2:00:54 ↗ issues relative to the intersection are

2:00:57 ↗ being resolved uh

2:01:00 ↗ by uh

2:01:02 ↗ moving this current driveway which comes

2:01:05 ↗ here to this point right here where it

2:01:09 ↗ is a right in and right out only so all

2:01:12 ↗ three of those will be right and write

2:01:13 ↗ out yes when they're done uh and uh yes

2:01:18 ↗ in the future if uh if this parel is

2:01:21 ↗ developed um there will clearly be a

2:01:25 ↗ different access uh relationship uh onto

2:01:29 ↗ Gilman but uh we have to take the first

2:01:32 ↗ step towards solving the bigger problem

2:01:35 ↗ because of the Improvement uh to the

2:01:38 ↗ intersection at 7even and Gilman which

2:01:40 ↗ starts to have the ripple effect down

2:01:44 ↗ but we also then have these legal

2:01:46 ↗ requirements to provide access to that

2:01:49 ↗ property owner uh of the neighboring

2:01:52 ↗ property sorry sorry it's so complicated

2:01:55 ↗ okay that's okay that's that's great

2:01:56 ↗ thank you but since I have be up there

2:01:58 ↗ I'll if you don't mind I'll jump in the

2:02:00 ↗ parking garages are at 60 feet so that's

2:02:03 ↗ below the 100-year flood plane I take it

2:02:06 ↗ the uh the lowest level of the park and

2:02:08 ↗ garage yes the park and garages are

2:02:10 ↗ actually being designed as complete

2:02:13 ↗ bathtubs um will they are there ways for

2:02:16 ↗ them to flood though no that's the

2:02:20 ↗ that's why the entrance to the garage is

2:02:22 ↗ here and here are both at an elevation

2:02:26 ↗ uh above the level of the 100-year flood

2:02:29 ↗ so so given that sometimes I've heard

2:02:31 ↗ water goes over the 100e flood if water

2:02:35 ↗ gets in there how does it drain out or

2:02:38 ↗ do it pumped out uh if we're at that

2:02:42 ↗ point in time the water is more likely

2:02:45 ↗ to be Crossing uh seventh than it is to

2:02:48 ↗ be entering the garage GES okay seventh

2:02:51 ↗ a low point on sth with

2:02:54 ↗ 65 um great so so that's uh that's sort

2:02:59 ↗ of how the whole garage entries have

2:03:03 ↗ been designed so that we do not have

2:03:06 ↗ access of water going into the garage

2:03:09 ↗ great thank

2:03:12 ↗ you and I guess um another question yeah

2:03:16 ↗ sure I guess a question on the the

2:03:19 ↗ shared

2:03:20 ↗ use uh route with the vehicles at the

2:03:24 ↗ southeast Corner any other I guess werf

2:03:29 ↗ ideas other than just grass

2:03:31 ↗ create um well what we're what we're

2:03:35 ↗ trying to do there is actually just

2:03:37 ↗ indicate uh it's almost like a rumble

2:03:39 ↗ strip uh we're trying to create some

2:03:42 ↗ texture which includes some plant

2:03:44 ↗ material that uh lets people uh know who

2:03:50 ↗ are who are parking here on the adjacent

2:03:53 ↗ property that they're going across that

2:03:57 ↗ we um know those the people in montor

2:04:00 ↗ school and and the users of the uh uh

2:04:03 ↗ office dental office building MH um they

2:04:06 ↗ have been using this space for Access

2:04:09 ↗ for many years and so lenar is

2:04:12 ↗ attempting to accommodate their use of

2:04:15 ↗ this property but satisfy the City's

2:04:19 ↗ goals that pedestrians bicyclists uh

2:04:23 ↗ will also be coming through the same

2:04:26 ↗ space okay which which I think is great

2:04:28 ↗ and I just wondered if there's anything

2:04:30 ↗ more I don't know anything more than

2:04:33 ↗ just again sort of grass create

2:04:37 ↗ that and and and I don't know I'm not an

2:04:39 ↗ architect so um but I understand what

2:04:42 ↗ you're doing and I wondered if there's

2:04:44 ↗ something better we'll keep our thinking

2:04:46 ↗ great thank you

2:04:56 ↗ um oh um question on the the second

2:05:02 ↗ connection to the shared use route and

2:05:04 ↗ this would be a question Mr grer yeah um

2:05:09 ↗ the second connection to the shared use

2:05:11 ↗ route from the building C Courtyard yes

2:05:14 ↗ and I can understand your desire to

2:05:16 ↗ maintain a um um sort of that Central

2:05:21 ↗ area for those residents but when I look

2:05:23 ↗ at that and I couldn't tell from looking

2:05:26 ↗ at the Landscaping plan it just said

2:05:28 ↗ that it

2:05:29 ↗ was

2:05:31 ↗ planting material that surrounded that

2:05:34 ↗ and I wondered if I came out of building

2:05:36 ↗ C and I and I wanted to go to that

2:05:38 ↗ shared use route and I wanted to go to

2:05:41 ↗ the right I thought would I just walk

2:05:43 ↗ along that path and then cross through

2:05:45 ↗ the Landscaping straight to the trail I

2:05:48 ↗ don't know you well enough to answer

2:05:49 ↗ that

2:05:52 ↗ question that's right but but I wonder

2:05:56 ↗ is the planting material designed to

2:05:58 ↗ keep people from doing that or U the the

2:06:01 ↗ idea of the planting bear and uh when

2:06:04 ↗ we're just looking at the plan we're not

2:06:06 ↗ actually seeing what our Landscape

2:06:07 ↗ Architects have have tried to do in

2:06:09 ↗ three

2:06:10 ↗ dimensions uh we we have sort of tried

2:06:13 ↗ to burm up around that uh Jerry Jerry

2:06:17 ↗ mentioned that this is North facing

2:06:19 ↗ Courtyard and what we've been trying to

2:06:21 ↗ do is to get a sitting area that the

2:06:24 ↗ residents can use as far to the North as

2:06:28 ↗ possible without it feeling like the

2:06:31 ↗ residents go out to read a book in the

2:06:33 ↗ Sun and that they're sitting on the shed

2:06:35 ↗ use Trail so we were trying to create

2:06:37 ↗ some separation both with the grading of

2:06:41 ↗ slight buring and birming associated

2:06:44 ↗ with

2:06:45 ↗ planting um to create uh an area where

2:06:50 ↗ the two uses Could Happen very close to

2:06:53 ↗ one another great we we we just we think

2:06:56 ↗ there are maybe 40 or 50 feet apart and

2:07:00 ↗ um yes people might do exactly what you

2:07:02 ↗ describe no but I I won't walk Overhill

2:07:05 ↗ so you I won't go through it so that's

2:07:07 ↗ great yeah thank

2:07:10 ↗ you uh that Mr I think that's all I've

2:07:13 ↗ got for right now thank commissioner s

2:07:15 ↗ thank you well I I appreciate the

2:07:18 ↗ president presentation I think it was

2:07:19 ↗ really really good and I I really lik

2:07:22 ↗ the the pictoral uh demonstration or

2:07:26 ↗ explanation of the water flow at 100

2:07:28 ↗ Years of existing condition and the

2:07:30 ↗ future condition that was really really

2:07:32 ↗ helpful but obviously water is a big

2:07:34 ↗ concern for people and so I I think

2:07:37 ↗ you've done a good job addressing that I

2:07:39 ↗ get the two uh the two areas that I I

2:07:42 ↗ just had had interest in while I was

2:07:44 ↗ looking through the plans was the the

2:07:47 ↗ courtyards and the a five story building

2:07:49 ↗ on a covering over an East aspect of of

2:07:53 ↗ the courtyards at least in uh building a

2:07:56 ↗ and probably building sea are going to

2:07:58 ↗ make planting uh pretty problematic of

2:08:00 ↗ getting enough sunlight in there to make

2:08:02 ↗ it feel pretty decent you know that's my

2:08:04 ↗ own guess so I hope you're paying

2:08:06 ↗ attention to that and I I also shared

2:08:09 ↗ the you know a five-story building U

2:08:12 ↗ along 7eventh street is going to be

2:08:14 ↗ pretty Stark and I I think that the the

2:08:16 ↗ color palette that used was

2:08:19 ↗ intriguing uh but I'm I guess I have to

2:08:22 ↗ confess I'm an engineer and so it

2:08:23 ↗ doesn't take much to Intrigue me I think

2:08:25 ↗ that the notion of uh the notion of

2:08:28 ↗ thinking maybe of modifying a a roof

2:08:30 ↗ line or or doing some other

2:08:32 ↗ architectural things to really enhance

2:08:35 ↗ the interest you know when you look at

2:08:37 ↗ the uh Central isqua plan and the intent

2:08:39 ↗ of the building design is to establish a

2:08:42 ↗ design standard that creates a vibrant

2:08:44 ↗ pedestrian friendly built environment

2:08:47 ↗ and uh and I don't know that I thought

2:08:49 ↗ felt very vibrant so that's

2:08:53 ↗ it can I jump in Mr are we doing prese

2:08:56 ↗ we're going to come back through for

2:08:58 ↗ comments are we just in the question

2:08:59 ↗ period now I actually think that this is

2:09:02 ↗ a Consolidated my understanding is that

2:09:04 ↗ this is a this is a a Consolidated

2:09:07 ↗ comment question and comment and that

2:09:09 ↗ the the we might do it the way we did it

2:09:11 ↗ before we asked the questions first and

2:09:13 ↗ then do the comments but yeah I would

2:09:15 ↗ say that if you if you do have comments

2:09:17 ↗ commissioner Morgan go ahead and you

2:09:18 ↗ should make I'll wait okay been talking

2:09:21 ↗ all

2:09:22 ↗ right commissioner BR commissioner

2:09:25 ↗ Morgan wants to play the old school

2:09:27 ↗ approach and we will challenge ourselves

2:09:29 ↗ to blend them together so um first um I

2:09:32 ↗ do appreciate the the the materials that

2:09:34 ↗ were presented to us and um presentation

2:09:37 ↗ by the applicant team and staff I think

2:09:40 ↗ that was very informative and and it

2:09:41 ↗ answered some of my questions in the

2:09:44 ↗ presentation but I do have a a couple um

2:09:47 ↗ first flood obviously and the challenges

2:09:50 ↗ offered on this site are of concern to

2:09:52 ↗ the public that has addressed the

2:09:55 ↗ commission tonight and also just as we

2:09:57 ↗ were reading through the material and

2:09:58 ↗ heard it um one of the questions about

2:10:01 ↗ the the flooding and I don't know that I

2:10:03 ↗ fully understood this but so we're we're

2:10:06 ↗ doing some we're going to raise the

2:10:08 ↗ level of the buildings um to take them

2:10:10 ↗ above the 100 year one foot above the

2:10:12 ↗ 100 year flood plane um but to do that

2:10:15 ↗ we're creating we're putting material in

2:10:17 ↗ the FL Zone and so is there compensatory

2:10:21 ↗ storage that was created for that offset

2:10:23 ↗ that happens or are we pushing the flood

2:10:26 ↗ waters now when we do have a flood

2:10:28 ↗ condition you know out and across seven

2:10:30 ↗ Street and I think that's a concern that

2:10:32 ↗ I saw in some of the public comments and

2:10:33 ↗ I was just concerned about how that

2:10:35 ↗ particular issue is being addressed and

2:10:38 ↗ and from a flood condition are we moving

2:10:40 ↗ it to a different location or we

2:10:42 ↗ adequately um creating uh compensatory

2:10:45 ↗ storage space on this site and the

2:10:47 ↗ regrading that's happening

2:10:49 ↗ this great you're welcome all right

2:10:52 ↗ would you just repeat your name just for

2:10:54 ↗ the record please everybody thank you

2:10:56 ↗ with lar um the the compensatory storage

2:10:59 ↗ was actually um U created when some work

2:11:03 ↗ was done I believe in the late 99s on

2:11:05 ↗ esqua Creek that involved taking some of

2:11:08 ↗ this property and so in agreement

2:11:10 ↗ between the city and the the previous

2:11:13 ↗ property owner uh the comp the the

2:11:16 ↗ compensatory storage was uh was

2:11:18 ↗ prospective in that sense so there there

2:11:21 ↗ is the ability uh of this property owner

2:11:24 ↗ to fill up to I think it's 610

2:11:26 ↗ CFS um of volume and I think we're

2:11:29 ↗ filling 380 so we're actually leaving

2:11:33 ↗ more storage than than there was

2:11:35 ↗ previously good great make sense

2:11:37 ↗ absolutely thank you that

2:11:39 ↗ helps I missed that in the staff report

2:11:41 ↗ sorry will find that information

2:11:44 ↗ actually within the sea determination

2:11:46 ↗ too and it talks about because of the

2:11:47 ↗ the floods we had back in 1996 it was

2:11:51 ↗ really severe and the channel there it

2:11:53 ↗ was widened and improved and to

2:11:55 ↗ compensate for that they were allowed to

2:11:57 ↗ do this I will admit I did not confess

2:12:00 ↗ that I did not read the seek the

2:12:02 ↗ determination I'm sorry okay uh another

2:12:05 ↗ question um the shared use Trail um near

2:12:08 ↗ the dentist office looks like we had one

2:12:10 ↗ of the constraints is that there's

2:12:11 ↗ parking looks like it's on this site

2:12:15 ↗ that is provided for the dentist office

2:12:17 ↗ am I reading the plan

2:12:19 ↗ right yes okay and

2:12:26 ↗ that's the parking itself is actually

2:12:28 ↗ offsite but the just to the edge

2:12:30 ↗ although I think you could see that some

2:12:32 ↗ of the cars actually are going to extend

2:12:34 ↗ over onto our property um the access to

2:12:37 ↗ the parking is on our property and it's

2:12:39 ↗ our belief that the first of all I think

2:12:42 ↗ there's a Good Neighbor policy going on

2:12:44 ↗ here I think we we want to try to

2:12:45 ↗ continue to provide access to this

2:12:47 ↗ business owner we want to try to

2:12:49 ↗ continue to create a safe uh circular uh

2:12:52 ↗ circulation system for the Monas I think

2:12:55 ↗ it's also fair to say that the dentist

2:12:56 ↗ probably has a prescriptive easement

2:12:59 ↗ just just from having used it for 30

2:13:02 ↗ years so we we are then constraint and

2:13:04 ↗ have to get creative with as Morgan was

2:13:06 ↗ talking about how we differentiate this

2:13:09 ↗ particular space and create a safe

2:13:11 ↗ environment for what would be a so it's

2:13:13 ↗ a shared use and then some yes with

2:13:16 ↗ vehicles so that understand

2:13:19 ↗ uh this is relatively straightforward I

2:13:22 ↗ think the I heard you mention that as

2:13:24 ↗ part of the agreement with Metro on the

2:13:27 ↗ bus stop that you're providing a

2:13:30 ↗ concrete slab

2:13:31 ↗ for um getting on or off the bus and

2:13:35 ↗ then the rest of the 50 or 60 feet is

2:13:37 ↗ gravel or crushed rock and I was curious

2:13:39 ↗ about why crushed rock and um is that

2:13:42 ↗ the right material there um over time

2:13:44 ↗ does that just get make a mess get

2:13:46 ↗ kicked around um is there another option

2:13:48 ↗ to do some other material that's more

2:13:50 ↗ stable in that location or is that a

2:13:52 ↗ requirement that they give

2:14:00 ↗ you

2:14:04 ↗ plan this

2:14:16 ↗ one my name is Michael lipco I'm

2:14:19 ↗ landscape architect with GGO um working

2:14:21 ↗ for lar on this

2:14:32 ↗ project um the question about the using

2:14:35 ↗ the gravel pavement our our belief was

2:14:38 ↗ that it would be nice to be able to

2:14:40 ↗ continue the boulevard of Street trees

2:14:42 ↗ instead of interrupting them with

2:14:44 ↗ concrete pavement or putting trees in um

2:14:48 ↗ um and tree grills or grates within that

2:14:51 ↗ space we thought the health of the trees

2:14:53 ↗ would do better coming up through um

2:14:55 ↗ compacted gravel versus

2:14:58 ↗ concrete so the thing that and this is

2:15:01 ↗ the first time we've seen it and it's

2:15:03 ↗ kind of a Construction level detail but

2:15:05 ↗ I think it's a good conversation to have

2:15:08 ↗ we don't actually allow gravel that

2:15:10 ↗ close to ride of way because of M of

2:15:12 ↗ City maintenance issues so it's just a

2:15:14 ↗ it's a material detail we will have to

2:15:17 ↗ work on okay there's always an issue

2:15:19 ↗ about gravel hitting cars and windows

2:15:21 ↗ and dings

2:15:23 ↗ too yeah so I just flag that as an area

2:15:26 ↗ of interest and I think probably a

2:15:29 ↗ fairly simple thing to solve

2:15:31 ↗ so uh this is uh uh the the courtyard a

2:15:36 ↗ couple of questions recorded or maybe

2:15:38 ↗ comments um related to the Courtyard

2:15:41 ↗ Courtyard C again um this a question for

2:15:45 ↗ staff are are the courtyards for the

2:15:48 ↗ purpose of public use are they um inward

2:15:50 ↗ facing to the project for uh the

2:15:53 ↗ resident use or is there a combination

2:15:55 ↗ does a code specify one or the other so

2:15:58 ↗ the central isqua plan has a combination

2:16:01 ↗ of community spaces some that are

2:16:03 ↗ intended for the public and some that

2:16:07 ↗ um are primarily focused to Residents

2:16:11 ↗ although there wouldn't be any reason

2:16:12 ↗ that they couldn't choose to make them

2:16:14 ↗ more public they're not required to be

2:16:17 ↗ more public and there's no specific area

2:16:19 ↗ required one over the other as far as

2:16:21 ↗ the public versus the private there are

2:16:23 ↗ some size requirements and and the

2:16:25 ↗ proposal meets the requirements okay in

2:16:28 ↗ in the code the reason I'm asking the

2:16:30 ↗ question is the configuration of

2:16:31 ↗ Courtyard SE with kind of one way in and

2:16:33 ↗ one way out is it it wouldn't be

2:16:36 ↗ inviting for people on the mixed um use

2:16:38 ↗ Trail to come in because they would feel

2:16:40 ↗ like they're going into some of these

2:16:41 ↗ private space because it's leading to an

2:16:43 ↗ entrance to the building and it's

2:16:44 ↗ private um if the idea is to invite

2:16:46 ↗ people into the space space then

2:16:48 ↗ obviously you want to like open it up a

2:16:50 ↗ bit and have a circular walk that would

2:16:52 ↗ walk through there so people could go in

2:16:54 ↗ sit down take resit from the trail if

2:16:56 ↗ they want to and um relax for a minute

2:17:00 ↗ um if that's not the requirement then I

2:17:02 ↗ think uh and it is more for private use

2:17:04 ↗ then I think the one way in one way out

2:17:06 ↗ would be the way to go I mean maintain

2:17:07 ↗ more privacy in that route so that's

2:17:09 ↗ that's just an an observation on that

2:17:11 ↗ one and I did uh I shared um share the

2:17:14 ↗ observation about the the shading that

2:17:16 ↗ these buildings are going to create and

2:17:18 ↗ particularly um with the um in my

2:17:21 ↗ observation at least with the through

2:17:23 ↗ block Crossing um that's going to be uh

2:17:27 ↗ not in my observation getting a lot of

2:17:30 ↗ sun um so it's going to be necessary to

2:17:33 ↗ be you know um deliberate in how you

2:17:37 ↗ provide lighting I know you're going to

2:17:39 ↗ use Canary lighting Etc in there in the

2:17:41 ↗ vegetation but that that's that over

2:17:44 ↗ time that can become a very um dark um

2:17:49 ↗ Mossy space so um I think that that was

2:17:52 ↗ just and I don't know just based on the

2:17:54 ↗ configuration of these buildings where

2:17:55 ↗ you can solve that problem but that is

2:17:57 ↗ something you need to be mindful of I

2:17:59 ↗ think and another question for staff the

2:18:02 ↗ retail this project um is not proposing

2:18:06 ↗ retail at this point um the the land use

2:18:09 ↗ code of the zoning allows for retail in

2:18:12 ↗ this building it does but it doesn't

2:18:14 ↗ require it it does not require

2:18:16 ↗ no uh it it seems and and I understand

2:18:20 ↗ that you've got to have enough

2:18:21 ↗ population Etc to support it even

2:18:24 ↗ neighborhood retail 300 plus units

2:18:27 ↗ obviously provides a significant new

2:18:29 ↗ population there but I think I guess one

2:18:32 ↗ concern is it it and we've heard it from

2:18:34 ↗ this from the speakers from the public

2:18:35 ↗ this evening about the loss of retail

2:18:37 ↗ space over time I think that with the

2:18:40 ↗ plan we're going to see more retail

2:18:42 ↗ space because it'll be supported by the

2:18:44 ↗ density of population growth but we're

2:18:46 ↗ kind of in this transition period which

2:18:47 ↗ is difficult um and and you're going to

2:18:50 ↗ have you know you create retail space

2:18:52 ↗ now it doesn't work it sits vacant and

2:18:54 ↗ so then you've got kind of dead space or

2:18:56 ↗ shuttered building but I think we need

2:18:58 ↗ to think about how we accommodate that

2:19:01 ↗ transition into the future and and think

2:19:03 ↗ about that in the building design you

2:19:05 ↗ can't just flip a unit and turn it into

2:19:07 ↗ a retail space you got to think about

2:19:09 ↗ that in advance and try to accommodate

2:19:11 ↗ that and I don't know if that's

2:19:12 ↗ something we can do as a requirement or

2:19:14 ↗ just something we should think about um

2:19:16 ↗ because I think in the future future

2:19:18 ↗ that would probably work on this site

2:19:20 ↗ but I can understand why now it may

2:19:23 ↗ not

2:19:25 ↗ and those are the only questions I have

2:19:28 ↗ I guess my comments um a few things that

2:19:31 ↗ I really liked about this project and

2:19:32 ↗ you've heard from others I I really um

2:19:34 ↗ appreciated the work that you did in

2:19:37 ↗ creating the on-site um the integration

2:19:40 ↗ of the Trails um kind of isolation of

2:19:43 ↗ the the parking areas you move that back

2:19:45 ↗ to the center of the site away from the

2:19:47 ↗ streets and move the buildings to the

2:19:48 ↗ streets um a little concerned about the

2:19:51 ↗ issue related to the the Gilman um bull

2:19:54 ↗ the uh the frontage on Gilman and the

2:19:57 ↗ lack of a building face at the at on

2:20:00 ↗ Gilman which was anticipated I think in

2:20:02 ↗ the plan and I noticed in the conditions

2:20:04 ↗ we've got a condition that is to try to

2:20:06 ↗ create a feature out there um but I

2:20:09 ↗ think um that's going to be a hard one I

2:20:11 ↗ think you're going to have to try to

2:20:12 ↗ make sure it's interesting to people who

2:20:14 ↗ are walking along Gil Gilman Boulevard

2:20:16 ↗ but at the same time the idea is it's

2:20:19 ↗ not an urban face that we're creating

2:20:22 ↗ it's a more of a park face um and I not

2:20:25 ↗ a bad thing but it's not what the plan

2:20:27 ↗ really anticipated so I think U maybe

2:20:30 ↗ some architectural features as you noted

2:20:32 ↗ at the intersection and anything else we

2:20:34 ↗ can do along there even an art introduce

2:20:36 ↗ art maybe the city could help with that

2:20:38 ↗ um to create a more urban condition I

2:20:40 ↗ think along that Frontage would be

2:20:41 ↗ helpful do you look at the uh photograph

2:20:44 ↗ examples we gave in the staff report did

2:20:46 ↗ you have any thoughts about some of

2:20:48 ↗ those examples that we

2:20:50 ↗ showed I looked at them I can't say that

2:20:52 ↗ I had any thoughts about them hang on I

2:20:54 ↗ I'll give them to you on the Fly here

2:20:56 ↗ and you don't have to be put on the spot

2:20:59 ↗ yeah um I mean if if you have thoughts

2:21:02 ↗ we would love to hear them but you don't

2:21:04 ↗ I think whatever it is it it needs to uh

2:21:07 ↗ it needs to reflect the urban character

2:21:09 ↗ that we're trying to create um just a

2:21:12 ↗ simple um light gauged you know like the

2:21:15 ↗ rod iron fence for example example that

2:21:17 ↗ that that's that doesn't generally work

2:21:20 ↗ for me something that's more significant

2:21:22 ↗ like the upper right corner with kind of

2:21:24 ↗ an awning and some major uh elements

2:21:26 ↗ that that might be Overkill in this case

2:21:28 ↗ but those sorts of features that are a

2:21:30 ↗ little bit more in an urban scale

2:21:32 ↗ condition I think will be good and and

2:21:34 ↗ again this is since this is a catalyst

2:21:36 ↗ project the first one out it's going to

2:21:37 ↗ feel really awkward for a while but over

2:21:39 ↗ time we've got to think ahead here and

2:21:41 ↗ make sure we're we're designing a

2:21:43 ↗ building and constructing a building

2:21:45 ↗ that's going to fit in the long term cuz

2:21:47 ↗ it's going to set the framework for what

2:21:49 ↗ comes next so I think we got to make

2:21:50 ↗ sure we're thinking about that and uh is

2:21:52 ↗ it if you don't mind me jumping in the

2:21:55 ↗ is it possible too that they could

2:21:57 ↗ incorporate

2:21:58 ↗ signage into the that 60 feet of are you

2:22:03 ↗ talking about Monument type signage we

2:22:06 ↗ we we are trying to discourage Monument

2:22:07 ↗ signs out have I saying they've got to

2:22:10 ↗ create what 60 ft of of streetcape or um

2:22:16 ↗ I don't know what we call it a street

2:22:17 ↗ wall right that'd be the minimum yes

2:22:19 ↗ minimum can can the signage be

2:22:21 ↗ incorporated into that street wall we've

2:22:24 ↗ we've begun talking with the applicant

2:22:26 ↗ about that and we're we see some real

2:22:29 ↗ nice opportunities just because since

2:22:31 ↗ the building is set back um that would

2:22:34 ↗ be a logical place for a sign to be if

2:22:36 ↗ there was a building so

2:22:38 ↗ okay thank you I'm almost

2:22:41 ↗ finished um I I really appreciate what

2:22:45 ↗ you've done with the street Frontage

2:22:46 ↗ improvements

2:22:47 ↗ particularly around on Locust Street I

2:22:49 ↗ think that's going to transform that

2:22:51 ↗ that street I mean I think Jerry you

2:22:53 ↗ called it an alley um I think it's going

2:22:55 ↗ to be much more than that when we're

2:22:56 ↗ finished and again it sets the kind of

2:22:58 ↗ the new um framework for what comes next

2:23:02 ↗ along that street and I particularly

2:23:04 ↗ appreciate the creative solution you've

2:23:05 ↗ got for the elevation change um getting

2:23:08 ↗ into the C the through block connection

2:23:09 ↗ with the ramps and the stairs integrated

2:23:11 ↗ I think that looked um interesting and

2:23:14 ↗ um integrated and not looking like it

2:23:15 ↗ was just added as a you've got to do it

2:23:18 ↗ and just figure out a way to build a

2:23:19 ↗ ramp in there you actually built it into

2:23:20 ↗ the into the transition there with the

2:23:22 ↗ sidewalk going out into the street I

2:23:24 ↗ thought that was uh well done and

2:23:26 ↗ appreciated that

2:23:29 ↗ uh the building design uh comments on on

2:23:33 ↗ the building design I I also it's it's

2:23:38 ↗ it's interesting what you've done with

2:23:41 ↗ uh pulling modulating the building and

2:23:43 ↗ pulling out pieces on the two and three

2:23:45 ↗ story level make a little more

2:23:47 ↗ pedestrian interest in The Pedestrian

2:23:49 ↗ level little more at pedestrian scale

2:23:52 ↗ the top of the building is I tend to

2:23:54 ↗ agree with everybody else um it just um

2:23:58 ↗ it doesn't have any interest in it and I

2:24:01 ↗ if there's something we can do to create

2:24:03 ↗ more relief more um attraction uh to the

2:24:06 ↗ building uh particularly at the top but

2:24:09 ↗ even some additional relief of there's

2:24:11 ↗ some architectural features we could add

2:24:12 ↗ to that I think it would help the colors

2:24:15 ↗ are going to be pretty bold um so again

2:24:17 ↗ this one's going to be fairly striking I

2:24:19 ↗ think in the color palette that's been

2:24:21 ↗ selected so I think we need to be

2:24:22 ↗ cautious with how much of the bright

2:24:23 ↗ color we introduce here but at the same

2:24:26 ↗ time it does create part of the

2:24:27 ↗ architectural interest that you're

2:24:28 ↗ trying to create I understand that so

2:24:31 ↗ again it's it architecture is kind of

2:24:34 ↗ like art you know people all have

2:24:35 ↗ different opinions about what they like

2:24:36 ↗ and what they don't like but I do think

2:24:38 ↗ this is a lot of building and a lot of

2:24:40 ↗ flat roof uh flat uh top building um um

2:24:45 ↗ to not have some sort of relief that

2:24:47 ↗ happens um for the eye at the

2:24:50 ↗ top and then um the last La I guess my

2:24:54 ↗ final my final comment is uh again I

2:24:57 ↗ think this is a a a catalyst project for

2:25:00 ↗ the central isqua plan it's the starter

2:25:02 ↗ and I think it's going to be looked at

2:25:04 ↗ and it people will um provide all kinds

2:25:07 ↗ of comments about how they love it uh

2:25:10 ↗ how they may not like it so much what we

2:25:11 ↗ could have done better um and that's

2:25:13 ↗ just part of this process but I do

2:25:15 ↗ appreciate the work that's gone the risk

2:25:17 ↗ that you're taking to actually Advance a

2:25:19 ↗ fairly significant element and I'm

2:25:22 ↗ looking forward to seeing this thing

2:25:23 ↗ move on through the process and head

2:25:25 ↗ into construction so thanks for the

2:25:28 ↗ work thank you commissioner commission

2:25:35 ↗ Caris oh I don't think my mic

2:25:42 ↗ worked so I will just start with some

2:25:45 ↗ comments and then I have some question

2:25:46 ↗ questions um I I think this is a great

2:25:50 ↗ project I think isqua is really lucky to

2:25:53 ↗ have you guys lenar and GGO working on

2:25:57 ↗ this uh first CIP project and

2:26:01 ↗ um I think it's great I think it's very

2:26:04 ↗ creative and um attractive I like the

2:26:08 ↗ creativity with the

2:26:10 ↗ Landscaping I I was interested in the

2:26:13 ↗ idea of having some kind of visual

2:26:15 ↗ simulation from

2:26:17 ↗ I90 and

2:26:20 ↗ um going along with that I think it's

2:26:22 ↗ important for everybody to realize as

2:26:25 ↗ has been brought up before that this is

2:26:27 ↗ the first project

2:26:28 ↗ so even if from I90 we're going to be

2:26:31 ↗ seeing this big building that pops out

2:26:34 ↗ at us um it's important to think about

2:26:37 ↗ 20 years down the road when this Gilman

2:26:40 ↗ area of the CIP is more developed and so

2:26:45 ↗ this building how is this building going

2:26:47 ↗ to fit in with the rest of it so it's

2:26:50 ↗ important to think about not just the

2:26:52 ↗ next five years but the next 20 when

2:26:54 ↗ you're looking from further distances

2:26:56 ↗ back

2:26:58 ↗ um I like the idea of interpretive

2:27:01 ↗ signage especially

2:27:04 ↗ um in relation to uh the historical

2:27:09 ↗ elements that you brought up like having

2:27:11 ↗ hops on the site I think that's a cool

2:27:14 ↗ idea and people might not know what is

2:27:16 ↗ all about if um if there's not some some

2:27:20 ↗ uh

2:27:22 ↗ historical information there so I think

2:27:24 ↗ that's a good idea that Connie brought

2:27:26 ↗ up uh I like the features on the

2:27:29 ↗ building that break up the

2:27:33 ↗ scale I I like the bright colors and I

2:27:37 ↗ know that's just a that's just my

2:27:40 ↗ opinion

2:27:43 ↗ um and I love that you're increasing the

2:27:45 ↗ tree canopy I love all the variety of

2:27:48 ↗ plants and trees and Heights and

2:27:51 ↗ grasses and I just have a few questions

2:27:54 ↗ and these I know are not the maybe the

2:27:56 ↗ most pressing issues about the project

2:27:58 ↗ but there some that um that I thought

2:28:01 ↗ about uh I noticed I just quickly looked

2:28:03 ↗ at the sea review and I know I saw 344

2:28:07 ↗ units and 346 units wonder if you looked

2:28:11 ↗ at the um the total increase in

2:28:14 ↗ population uh I know they're most one

2:28:16 ↗ and two bedroom units so how many more

2:28:20 ↗ people in total so I'm thinking like 800

2:28:25 ↗ or 600 I'm not sure if you looked at

2:28:27 ↗ that and uh being a parent with schoolly

2:28:30 ↗ children and the the elementary school

2:28:33 ↗ just a couple blocks away I know that I

2:28:35 ↗ have heard from parents at our school

2:28:38 ↗ you know they are just wondering about

2:28:40 ↗ it and I know with the size of the unit

2:28:43 ↗ there might not be very many Elementary

2:28:45 ↗ age or or middle or high school age

2:28:47 ↗ students but just something that again

2:28:51 ↗ probably not the most important issue

2:28:52 ↗ but something that might need to just be

2:28:55 ↗ stated

2:28:57 ↗ somewhere uh let's

2:29:00 ↗ see there's been some discussion about

2:29:02 ↗ the monor which is which is great I know

2:29:06 ↗ that they have a and sounds like you've

2:29:09 ↗ worked closely with them so you probably

2:29:11 ↗ already know this but I just wanted to

2:29:13 ↗ bring up quickly that they have a

2:29:15 ↗ student drop off

2:29:17 ↗ so you know that okay so the car come

2:29:20 ↗ cars come in and they sit in line for a

2:29:22 ↗ while probably right on top of the plan

2:29:25 ↗ shared use

2:29:26 ↗ path so I just wanted to bring that up

2:29:29 ↗ and it sounds like you're working with

2:29:32 ↗ that thought it was allow

2:29:38 ↗ however so they kind of I think as I

2:29:42 ↗ remember um we used to come in and turn

2:29:46 ↗ turn into that dead end area and do a do

2:29:49 ↗ a loop and then drop our student off at

2:29:52 ↗ the fence there right right I'm just

2:29:54 ↗ envisioning like cyclist starting to go

2:29:57 ↗ through and you know it's obviously

2:29:59 ↗ going to be a conflict but we thought it

2:30:00 ↗ was more important to allow for that

2:30:02 ↗ Loop that you described rather than have

2:30:04 ↗ parents pull in back up back up back up

2:30:06 ↗ and then pull out again with with kids

2:30:08 ↗ in the parking lot so we just thought it

2:30:09 ↗ was better to maintain it the way it is

2:30:10 ↗ now which is obvious working not

2:30:12 ↗ withstanding the potential conflict of

2:30:15 ↗ and then maybe some yeah I don't know

2:30:17 ↗ how if it's going to be uh it probably

2:30:19 ↗ wouldn't be the type of trail that would

2:30:20 ↗ have a lot of fast cycling going on but

2:30:25 ↗ if it is then some signage or something

2:30:27 ↗ like that probably be a good idea or

2:30:29 ↗ some kind of barrier so that they slow

2:30:31 ↗ down or something Katie you may see that

2:30:33 ↗ there is a discrepancy in the number of

2:30:35 ↗ units too with what you read in the CP

2:30:37 ↗ determination versus the staff report

2:30:39 ↗ and the number of dwelling units it has

2:30:42 ↗ fluctuated as this project has evolved

2:30:45 ↗ too and so uh you know it's possible the

2:30:47 ↗ number may change again too depending on

2:30:49 ↗ the size of the units too oh okay like

2:30:52 ↗ number of bedrooms

2:30:54 ↗ yes

2:30:57 ↗ okay um great let's

2:31:01 ↗ see um I appreciated hearing about the

2:31:05 ↗ contamination from the historic uses on

2:31:09 ↗ the property the dry cleaners in the gas

2:31:10 ↗ station and I I'm assuming that's all

2:31:13 ↗ contained

2:31:14 ↗ underground and I was wondering if um

2:31:18 ↗ there would be any conflict with that as

2:31:20 ↗ you're building the sale because you'll

2:31:23 ↗ have to dig

2:31:26 ↗ underneath right no we're not just going

2:31:28 ↗ to cap cap it over we're going to overe

2:31:29 ↗ excavate remove it and dispose of it

2:31:32 ↗ yeah okay yeah same with the underground

2:31:35 ↗ storage tanks

2:31:40 ↗ okay uh let's

2:31:45 ↗ see

2:31:47 ↗ I am also just wondering how many

2:31:50 ↗ businesses are located in Gilman square

2:31:52 ↗ and how many employees currently work

2:32:01 ↗ there okay so that's full-time and

2:32:03 ↗ parttime mostly part-time

2:32:05 ↗ or darling could you come up to the

2:32:08 ↗ microphone

2:32:10 ↗ please I

2:32:13 ↗ apologize I think we heard you say 113

2:32:16 ↗ pronounce myself again yes if you would

2:32:19 ↗ um I'm Darlene Cohen Gilman

2:32:22 ↗ Gallery um in my spot 113 and um prior

2:32:27 ↗ to that um in

2:32:31 ↗ Lombardi's there was probably about 15

2:32:34 ↗ to 20 people

2:32:35 ↗ employed um at sister's next door um she

2:32:39 ↗ has a rotating staff besides herself so

2:32:41 ↗ there's three or four um there was a

2:32:45 ↗ furniture store next door me home

2:32:46 ↗ furnishings there was five people

2:32:48 ↗ rotating in there um the bar stool place

2:32:52 ↗ was family so there was four of them in

2:32:55 ↗ there um the gun shop I think had six or

2:32:58 ↗ seven people I think I believe that's

2:33:00 ↗ what maybe maybe rotating nine I'm not

2:33:03 ↗ sure and let's see who else was in there

2:33:05 ↗ the bar stools that that that that's

2:33:08 ↗ yeah so you're looking for other space

2:33:10 ↗ it sounds there is no space in isqua

2:33:12 ↗ isqua lacks retail I'm sorry to say that

2:33:15 ↗ but it's true um does anybody know about

2:33:17 ↗ the other I tried I and and and Tom

2:33:20 ↗ helped me but

2:33:23 ↗ unfortunately um as we know Alberton was

2:33:25 ↗ bought out by a company from alberon's

2:33:29 ↗ people and the land is lease land and

2:33:32 ↗ Savers from Value Village um it's just

2:33:35 ↗ they haven't even finished lease right

2:33:36 ↗ Tom they haven't even they're not

2:33:37 ↗ finished with it they're it's going to

2:33:40 ↗ close um but he was looking for somebody

2:33:43 ↗ he's taking two-thirds of it he was

2:33:45 ↗ looking for somebody through the other

2:33:48 ↗ small part left to pay for his part and

2:33:52 ↗ so we've been trying to negotiate with

2:33:54 ↗ them but he won't budge and um you know

2:33:57 ↗ for 19,000 square feet and I would even

2:34:00 ↗ call it a vanilla shell myself and if I

2:34:02 ↗ split it with somebody I get a little

2:34:04 ↗ entry way that I have to pay for that

2:34:06 ↗ would cost me the entry way would cost

2:34:07 ↗ me probably 9 10,000 a month um it

2:34:11 ↗ doesn't work uh so there's no place for

2:34:13 ↗ us to move here you're going to lose us

2:34:15 ↗ and we've been a destination here for

2:34:17 ↗ how long I don't know I mean there's

2:34:20 ↗ nobody else here who wins Awards but us

2:34:22 ↗ and I'm really proud of that because

2:34:24 ↗ I've got a great amount of people that

2:34:25 ↗ work in that place and I have a

2:34:27 ↗ wonderful terrific

2:34:28 ↗ staff we are real showcase I hate to say

2:34:32 ↗ it in answer to your question uh at

2:34:35 ↗ least one of the businesses that was

2:34:36 ↗ there has relocated across Gilman

2:34:38 ↗ Boulevard okay they they went yeah the

2:34:41 ↗ gun shop went up above up there but they

2:34:43 ↗ don't take very much space because guns

2:34:46 ↗ you guns are the employees are still

2:34:47 ↗ there yeah well the guns you know the

2:34:49 ↗ gun shop it was just like a small place

2:34:51 ↗ like this you know not even as big as

2:34:53 ↗ this but half so thank you all right

2:34:56 ↗ you're welcome I think that's it for me

2:34:59 ↗ I I really like the project so thank you

2:35:02 ↗ very much oh thank you thanks you made a

2:35:05 ↗ great presentation so thank you thank

2:35:08 ↗ you Jerry I've got a couple of questions

2:35:11 ↗ the first one we seem

2:35:13 ↗ to I thought gloss over a little bit was

2:35:16 ↗ traffic

2:35:18 ↗ concurrency I uh I find it hard to

2:35:21 ↗ believe that there's not going to be an

2:35:22 ↗ impact or that there's that

2:35:25 ↗ with all these units and cars and peak

2:35:28 ↗ times we used to talk an awful lot about

2:35:31 ↗ that and this this time all of a sudden

2:35:32 ↗ it is not going to be a problem and we

2:35:34 ↗ moved on well it's not that there won't

2:35:35 ↗ be a problem it's not a major problem

2:35:38 ↗ though there will be 70 four new trips

2:35:41 ↗ that will be generated by the project

2:35:43 ↗ and uh the the concurrency that was done

2:35:47 ↗ on the project

2:35:49 ↗ did uh talk about the delay time at the

2:35:53 ↗ intersections which is fairly small and

2:35:55 ↗ if it's below 5 seconds it's it's not

2:35:57 ↗ changing the level of service uh there

2:36:00 ↗ will be a traffic signal required at sth

2:36:06 ↗ and Gilman as part of this project and

2:36:08 ↗ further traffic review even on the uh

2:36:11 ↗ entrances on 7th too know whether there

2:36:15 ↗ has to be left turning lane how much and

2:36:17 ↗ and even with the Gman Boulevard left

2:36:19 ↗ turning lane too there will be an impact

2:36:22 ↗ but it's not great they are getting full

2:36:24 ↗ credit of course for the retail Center

2:36:27 ↗ that's there

2:36:28 ↗ today okay it just I I I just have uh

2:36:34 ↗ some heartburn with the fact that many

2:36:36 ↗ units coming in on Gilman Boulevard and

2:36:38 ↗ it's not and it's not going to be a

2:36:40 ↗ problem I it just doesn't doesn't seem

2:36:43 ↗ to make sense to me but I will go along

2:36:44 ↗ there is I mean it the definitely is

2:36:46 ↗ going to be a larger impact on 7th I

2:36:48 ↗ think about 90% of the traffic will be

2:36:51 ↗ using 7th Avenue to enter the site 10%

2:36:55 ↗ would be using

2:36:58 ↗ Locust we me it mentioned in your in the

2:37:01 ↗ presentation that that ditch on 7th is a

2:37:06 ↗ stream now it's going to be tunnel it's

2:37:09 ↗ going to be covered converted to a

2:37:11 ↗ culvert is there a problem with that in

2:37:13 ↗ regards to the fact that there's now

2:37:15 ↗ it's got a habitat and stuff and if we

2:37:17 ↗ put it into a culvert the habitat goes

2:37:19 ↗ away is there an offset for

2:37:22 ↗ that not that I necessarily think that

2:37:25 ↗ it's really a habitat it's a ditch but

2:37:28 ↗ well one of the things that I've learned

2:37:29 ↗ is it doesn't matter what you think or

2:37:31 ↗ what I think it it is it has habitat

2:37:33 ↗ value you identify but but actually I

2:37:35 ↗ want to go back to your traffic uh issue

2:37:36 ↗ first could you mention your name I'm

2:37:38 ↗ sorry Tom Bartholomew with lar um I

2:37:42 ↗ think it's pretty safe to say that the

2:37:43 ↗ traffic situation is going to get better

2:37:45 ↗ um the the the numbers and the models

2:37:48 ↗ that were used to determine the

2:37:50 ↗ difference in terms of trips um in its

2:37:53 ↗ in the in the current condition assuming

2:37:55 ↗ it's least obviously assuming it's fully

2:37:57 ↗ least compared with what it's going to

2:37:59 ↗ be with 344

2:38:01 ↗ units we weren't allowed to take into

2:38:04 ↗ account um people who ride buses people

2:38:06 ↗ who uh work at home and all those kinds

2:38:09 ↗ of things so I think the impact that's

2:38:10 ↗ been demonstrated in the traffic report

2:38:12 ↗ is probably actually overstating it uh

2:38:15 ↗ in addition to that taking uh an

2:38:16 ↗ intersection at seventh and Gilman

2:38:18 ↗ that's current currently level of

2:38:19 ↗ surface F so it's already failing um and

2:38:22 ↗ we're going to make it level of service

2:38:24 ↗ C with a light so I think

2:38:27 ↗ counterintuitive as it might be I think

2:38:29 ↗ the situation out there is probably

2:38:30 ↗ going to get better is there an issue

2:38:33 ↗ with two traffic lights that close

2:38:36 ↗ together because you're going to have a

2:38:37 ↗ traffic you got a traffic

2:38:39 ↗ light just the next intersection up I

2:38:42 ↗ mean it's just it's very clear I I don't

2:38:44 ↗ know what the rules are traffic signal

2:38:45 ↗ know to the west to the west to the West

2:38:48 ↗ over at the isal commment yeah is there

2:38:51 ↗ traffic light right there the next one

2:38:53 ↗ it's up by

2:38:54 ↗ uh so what what we'll do with all of the

2:38:58 ↗ questions that you're asking is we'll

2:38:59 ↗ prepare this briefing response memo so

2:39:02 ↗ sometimes we don't have answers but

2:39:03 ↗ we'll have them in the memo we don't

2:39:04 ↗ need to take time that's fine um thank

2:39:07 ↗ you sir the um back to well except for

2:39:12 ↗ the uh the habitat I guess that

2:39:17 ↗ um according to Washington department

2:39:19 ↗ fici model if that is a class three or

2:39:21 ↗ class four stream um and we worked with

2:39:24 ↗ them extensively to try to develop a

2:39:27 ↗ mitigation plan um in exchange for

2:39:30 ↗ taking that in habitat and

2:39:33 ↗ so what we what we've actually done has

2:39:35 ↗ provided a great deal more than what

2:39:36 ↗ we're taking up in terms of square

2:39:37 ↗ footage um the the sale becomes massive

2:39:41 ↗ amount of habitat and also uh what we

2:39:44 ↗ worked out with wdfw really had more to

2:39:46 ↗ do with the repairing the changes we're

2:39:48 ↗ making along the repairing Corridor so

2:39:50 ↗ cutting back that slope and creating

2:39:52 ↗ that bench yep which creates habitat

2:39:55 ↗ okay that answers that I think uh Jerry

2:39:58 ↗ I just again I see there's just a little

2:40:00 ↗ bit of maybe just an exper further

2:40:05 ↗ explanation compared to Prior packages

2:40:08 ↗ that we've done we've always had a big

2:40:09 ↗ discussion on perious and impervious

2:40:12 ↗ surface in this one we got one line and

2:40:16 ↗ is that because it's almost all parking

2:40:17 ↗ lot now and so whatever we do is going

2:40:19 ↗ to be an improvement or because all we

2:40:22 ↗ talk about is that it's it's uh 90%

2:40:25 ↗ maximum and this is going to end up

2:40:27 ↗ being approximately

2:40:28 ↗ 65% it will under under the old code

2:40:31 ↗ this used to have the our retail zoning

2:40:33 ↗ and that the maximum impervious then was

2:40:36 ↗ 65% I don't know what the shopping

2:40:38 ↗ center has they may be you know close to

2:40:41 ↗ that being so much pavement um they are

2:40:45 ↗ providing about 65% and that's because

2:40:47 ↗ they got so much with the park the

2:40:50 ↗ restored area along the creek the new

2:40:53 ↗ grass SE swir that's com in in all the

2:40:55 ↗ islands peninsulas and parking a lot

2:40:57 ↗ improvements okay well we in the past

2:40:59 ↗ we've really we've focused in on that an

2:41:01 ↗ awful lot in these different projects

2:41:02 ↗ this one just seems to be one line that

2:41:04 ↗ it's okay and we're moving on I just

2:41:06 ↗ want to make sure that that we would you

2:41:08 ↗ like to see a number that I can give you

2:41:09 ↗ the numbers then too well I I think

2:41:12 ↗ probably the changes that in the past

2:41:15 ↗ you know the impervious percentage was

2:41:17 ↗ so much lower that there was a lot of

2:41:20 ↗ work to figure out how you were going to

2:41:21 ↗ comply and studying it in a lot of

2:41:23 ↗ detail because the central isqua plan

2:41:27 ↗ significantly increased that and this is

2:41:29 ↗ so far below that maximum there really

2:41:31 ↗ isn't a lot to discuss so I asking a

2:41:34 ↗ question that's all yeah

2:41:37 ↗ um regards to

2:41:39 ↗ parking the parking that's created on

2:41:43 ↗ 7th and Locust is that included in your

2:41:47 ↗ parking

2:41:48 ↗ totals for off street parking or is that

2:41:51 ↗ just general that's Street just general

2:41:54 ↗ parking that's required as part of the

2:41:56 ↗ street standards they do not get credit

2:41:58 ↗ for this for the apartments okay okay

2:42:01 ↗ it's not part of their um I had the same

2:42:04 ↗ kind of concern that the lady that spoke

2:42:08 ↗ earlier uh said in regards to the number

2:42:10 ↗ of parking and I understand there's

2:42:12 ↗ Chang standards and stuff yeah under

2:42:15 ↗ concerned with

2:42:17 ↗ uh the number of parking spots in

2:42:20 ↗ particularly at many apartments yeah and

2:42:22 ↗ under the old code we had a minimum of

2:42:25 ↗ two stals per unit we did not establish

2:42:28 ↗ a maximum under the old code this one

2:42:31 ↗ does and it's based on the number of

2:42:33 ↗ bedrooms too now okay we'll see what

2:42:36 ↗ happens um and one thing that we can do

2:42:38 ↗ in the response um and we've had to do

2:42:41 ↗ this with some other projects is provide

2:42:43 ↗ a little more context about the kind the

2:42:45 ↗ amount of parking that we're seeing

2:42:47 ↗ needed there have been some really

2:42:49 ↗ detailed studies in King County about um

2:42:53 ↗ the the parking Trends and and

2:42:55 ↗ especially with these kind of units and

2:42:57 ↗ we can provide you a lot more

2:42:58 ↗ information in the response thank you

2:43:00 ↗ the other it was mentioned just fleeting

2:43:03 ↗ and passing by one of the one of the

2:43:05 ↗ citizens that spoke I guess was the the

2:43:07 ↗ word affordable came up is there any

2:43:09 ↗ requirements for number of these units

2:43:11 ↗ to be affordable housing there's no we

2:43:13 ↗ have no I don't know if there's anything

2:43:14 ↗ that there nothing granted to the

2:43:17 ↗ developer

2:43:18 ↗ for you know there's some requirement

2:43:22 ↗ there's some requirements if they're

2:43:23 ↗ going to build extra tall taller

2:43:25 ↗ buildings they're not within that range

2:43:29 ↗ okay um I think the term that you

2:43:31 ↗ probably heard was Workforce housing

2:43:33 ↗ which often is affordable housing I'm

2:43:37 ↗ not sure that this I just wondered if

2:43:38 ↗ there was some some of the one of the

2:43:40 ↗ one of the uh incentives that we talked

2:43:42 ↗ about in the past in regards to

2:43:44 ↗ developing the central plan was

2:43:47 ↗ affordable housing as an incentive to I

2:43:50 ↗ didn't know if they were giving giving

2:43:51 ↗ any incentive in regards to the number

2:43:54 ↗ of these units that were going to be

2:43:55 ↗ classified as

2:43:56 ↗ affordable um there's just a little bit

2:44:00 ↗ in the in the in the in the report I it

2:44:03 ↗ says construction standards what's the

2:44:05 ↗ fire department say about these units

2:44:08 ↗ and the area they go in we in the past

2:44:10 ↗ we've talked an awful lot about uh

2:44:13 ↗ access turning radiuses and that's been

2:44:15 ↗ looked at by the fire department too for

2:44:17 ↗ their ladder trucks and they've uh

2:44:19 ↗ accepted the radius and turns on the

2:44:22 ↗ site and they accepted they have yes

2:44:24 ↗ okay there was a whole sheet that I mean

2:44:27 ↗ I don't know whether it ended up in your

2:44:28 ↗ packet but um it's in the building

2:44:30 ↗ standards or the construction standards

2:44:32 ↗ was it in here too um there was a sheet

2:44:34 ↗ that where they demonstrated you know

2:44:37 ↗ how the um fire trucks would move

2:44:39 ↗ through in East Side Fire drawing of a

2:44:41 ↗ fire truck I just want to make sure that

2:44:42 ↗ our that was their drawing I want to

2:44:44 ↗ make sure our fire department

2:44:45 ↗ like their

2:44:47 ↗ drawing okay

2:44:53 ↗ um the flooding is a concern and I guess

2:44:56 ↗ none of us will ever know until the

2:44:58 ↗ 100-year flood happens then we'll see if

2:45:00 ↗ the basement fills full of water and we

2:45:03 ↗ swim in it for a couple days I was also

2:45:06 ↗ concerned uh in regards to the the

2:45:10 ↗ access to the buildings that all the

2:45:12 ↗ surrounding

2:45:13 ↗ roads would be under water on 100e flood

2:45:18 ↗ and I don't know if there's anything

2:45:19 ↗ that can maybe the solution that Connie

2:45:22 ↗ suggested you got to just tell the

2:45:25 ↗ residents

2:45:26 ↗ that it could happen and I don't know if

2:45:30 ↗ that you know the sky Chicken Little the

2:45:32 ↗ sky is falling type thing but it was a

2:45:35 ↗ concern uh I want to for my comments I

2:45:39 ↗ think it's it's great I looked at the

2:45:40 ↗ color selection and I think my shirt is

2:45:44 ↗ perfect

2:45:47 ↗ yeah you want it matches your red very

2:45:50 ↗ nicely or whatever it is you're such a

2:45:52 ↗ slave to Fashion I know I know reminds

2:45:55 ↗ me of a certain gas station we argued

2:45:57 ↗ about once

2:45:59 ↗ before um and yeah the U I thought the

2:46:04 ↗ pictures were fun the only thing that

2:46:06 ↗ bothered me about it was when I first

2:46:07 ↗ got the package and started looking

2:46:09 ↗ through these

2:46:11 ↗ drawings I got to the draw to the the

2:46:14 ↗ site elev ations you know the East West

2:46:17 ↗ stuff look at

2:46:20 ↗ it the building looks just like this

2:46:22 ↗ piece of

2:46:24 ↗ paper big

2:46:27 ↗ rectangle and I wish there was some way

2:46:29 ↗ to change the modulation I mean looking

2:46:32 ↗ down at it or from the front or from an

2:46:34 ↗ angle you see all those angles on the

2:46:36 ↗ side but if you look at it from I90 as

2:46:40 ↗ you're going along it's one big

2:46:43 ↗ rectangle and I don't know if there's

2:46:45 ↗ anything that you can do and I don't

2:46:47 ↗ know if we

2:46:48 ↗ can

2:46:50 ↗ uh put something on the roof I don't

2:46:52 ↗ know if that'll comply with they right

2:46:54 ↗ at you're right at the limitation now

2:46:55 ↗ for for height I guess but I don't know

2:46:58 ↗ if there's any modulation vertical

2:47:00 ↗ modulation that can be added to the

2:47:02 ↗ buildings to break up these big

2:47:04 ↗ rectangles which is basically what

2:47:06 ↗ you're looking at and if you had

2:47:08 ↗ something that a turd on the end or

2:47:11 ↗ something in the

2:47:13 ↗ middle you know something would just

2:47:15 ↗ break up that upper level so it doesn't

2:47:17 ↗ look like just just big rectangle that's

2:47:19 ↗ what I would like to

2:47:20 ↗ see uh the the The Works you've done on

2:47:24 ↗ the Swale and the Landscaping it's it'll

2:47:27 ↗ be a gorgeous piece of property compared

2:47:29 ↗ to what it is now um

2:47:33 ↗ and look forward to the next stage I

2:47:35 ↗ also would like to thank the members of

2:47:37 ↗ the public I'm sure the chairman was

2:47:38 ↗ going to do that but it always makes our

2:47:40 ↗ job much easier and we hear from people

2:47:42 ↗ that are concerned enough to come to

2:47:43 ↗ meeting so thank you all for

2:47:47 ↗ coming thank you Carl um I'm not going

2:47:51 ↗ to go over a lot of the things that I've

2:47:52 ↗ already been said but I've got a couple

2:47:54 ↗ of questions uh is access to the

2:47:56 ↗ buildings going to be secure as in a

2:48:01 ↗ keypad okay so the public access that

2:48:06 ↗ we're encouraging is not going to uh

2:48:10 ↗ endanger the security of the residents

2:48:12 ↗ because they can't get into the building

2:48:14 ↗ unless they have the keypad access okay

2:48:17 ↗ uh on the uh Crossing there of uh 7th

2:48:22 ↗ Avenue is there going to be uh a

2:48:26 ↗ pedestrian warning such as there is by

2:48:28 ↗ the Hatchery across Newport

2:48:33 ↗ Newport and if there isn't why not where

2:48:35 ↗ the um shared route would cross yeah I I

2:48:40 ↗ there would be signage I don't know if

2:48:42 ↗ there would be anything beyond signage I

2:48:43 ↗ would suggest that that uh this gets

2:48:46 ↗ into the comment I mean the question is

2:48:48 ↗ is there anything planned there and if

2:48:49 ↗ there isn't uh I would suggest that

2:48:52 ↗ maybe we look at the same standards that

2:48:54 ↗ were used for the one there by the

2:48:56 ↗ Hatchery uh across Newport because this

2:48:58 ↗ is going to significantly we've all

2:49:00 ↗ heard it's going to significantly

2:49:01 ↗ increase the traffic on seven and people

2:49:04 ↗ are going to be running back and forth

2:49:05 ↗ there people are going to be coming out

2:49:07 ↗ and looking one way to see traffic and

2:49:08 ↗ then going the other way across that

2:49:10 ↗ pedestrian which I think is a great idea

2:49:12 ↗ and it's very logical but uh

2:49:15 ↗ I the the kind of thing that flashes

2:49:18 ↗ that they've got there on Newport by the

2:49:20 ↗ Hatchery I think would be a very good

2:49:22 ↗ investment uh for

2:49:25 ↗ security uh those are actually all the

2:49:28 ↗ questions the other questions that I had

2:49:29 ↗ have been addressed by my fellow

2:49:31 ↗ Commissioners so I'm just going to go

2:49:32 ↗ into uh my brief final comments um I

2:49:37 ↗ when I first and I'm going to be really

2:49:39 ↗ bluntly honest about this when I first

2:49:41 ↗ heard about this you know I I I love the

2:49:44 ↗ central plan the theory and everything

2:49:45 ↗ and participated in some of the

2:49:47 ↗ workshops and not to the extent that

2:49:48 ↗ commissioner Morgan has but but it just

2:49:50 ↗ seemed exceptionally logical to me that

2:49:53 ↗ it's either when we look at growth in

2:49:54 ↗ isqu it's either up or out and uh pretty

2:49:59 ↗ clear how I feel about that uh but I had

2:50:03 ↗ serious questions about the floodwater

2:50:05 ↗ and serious questions about the traffic

2:50:08 ↗ uh I want to thank the staff for this

2:50:12 ↗ material which I used to walk this site

2:50:15 ↗ uh I've talked to members of the uh

2:50:18 ↗ rivers and stream board uh and I will

2:50:21 ↗ say flatly that my concerns about

2:50:23 ↗ traffic and uh water control have been

2:50:26 ↗ addressed as far as I'm concerned uh it

2:50:30 ↗ will be definitely a significant

2:50:32 ↗ improvement over what is there now uh I

2:50:35 ↗ understand the employment issues and

2:50:37 ↗ that's regrettable but it's in terms of

2:50:40 ↗ the uh execution of the central isquat

2:50:42 ↗ plan going forward and how isqua

2:50:45 ↗ accommodates growth um it's a good thing

2:50:48 ↗ now I'm going to say what I alluded to

2:50:50 ↗ at the beginning and that is that there

2:50:52 ↗ is a both a challenge and an opportunity

2:50:54 ↗ for lonar and for the city frankly in my

2:50:57 ↗ opinion because you're the first so

2:50:59 ↗ everything that comes after is going to

2:51:01 ↗ be measured against what you do so

2:51:03 ↗ you're setting the standard for the

2:51:05 ↗ central isqua plan and that carries with

2:51:07 ↗ it I would suggest that carries with it

2:51:09 ↗ a a a responsibility I was going to say

2:51:12 ↗ burden but I won't I won't go there

2:51:14 ↗ carries a special

2:51:16 ↗ responsibility I think you've heard from

2:51:18 ↗ members of the public and several

2:51:20 ↗ members of the commission if not not in

2:51:22 ↗ fact all of us uh some concern about the

2:51:25 ↗ design of the building uh what went

2:51:28 ↗ through my mind is if you looked at that

2:51:30 ↗ building and looked at some of the newer

2:51:32 ↗ stuff in U Mercer Island and some of the

2:51:35 ↗ newer stuff in U Bellevue or Redmond uh

2:51:39 ↗ it's indistinguishable there's nothing

2:51:40 ↗ that says isqua on it it's contemporary

2:51:44 ↗ structure it's uh you know it's the

2:51:47 ↗ design standards are very very uh

2:51:49 ↗ commonly used uh on new multiple uh use

2:51:53 ↗ buildings I get it uh they're absolutely

2:51:56 ↗ uh green and up to up to standards on

2:51:58 ↗ energy use but there's nothing that says

2:52:02 ↗ isqua and there's nothing that says

2:52:04 ↗ distinct about that architecture as I

2:52:07 ↗ see it and I frankly I think the

2:52:08 ↗ opportunity is there at this stage in

2:52:11 ↗ the game to put something in there that

2:52:12 ↗ is that's a landmark that people look at

2:52:15 ↗ and say oh yeah that's that that's that

2:52:17 ↗ new uh apartment complex in isqua wow

2:52:21 ↗ and that's maybe what we're all looking

2:52:22 ↗ for here is the wow and the long-term

2:52:25 ↗ wow I'm not talking about something

2:52:26 ↗ that's fattish and I'm not talking about

2:52:29 ↗ something that's contemporary colors

2:52:31 ↗ which the green is kind of I don't know

2:52:34 ↗ what that's going to look like five

2:52:36 ↗ years from now but uh something as has

2:52:40 ↗ been noted by my fellow Commissioners

2:52:41 ↗ that's going to have the wow factor and

2:52:43 ↗ the distinctive fact factor for a long

2:52:45 ↗ time to come because you're setting the

2:52:48 ↗ standard and I think you've done a great

2:52:50 ↗ job it's a very challenging lot it's a

2:52:52 ↗ big a big challenge to come in and try

2:52:55 ↗ to deal with something as different as

2:52:58 ↗ the central isqua plan but I believe

2:53:00 ↗ that the staff and um the applicant and

2:53:04 ↗ quite honestly the way this has been

2:53:05 ↗ executed by the city over the years with

2:53:07 ↗ the public input uh is a model and it's

2:53:11 ↗ a a continuation of why Sunset magazine

2:53:14 ↗ picked isqua is the best suburb in west

2:53:16 ↗ of the Mississippi this is the kind of

2:53:18 ↗ thing that does it and it's particularly

2:53:20 ↗ important for people in the public as my

2:53:23 ↗ fellow commissioner not noticed and has

2:53:26 ↗ said is particularly important to this

2:53:28 ↗ process for people in the public to come

2:53:30 ↗ in here and participate and listen and

2:53:33 ↗ do their homework and sit through an

2:53:35 ↗ entire meeting and I can't tell you on

2:53:37 ↗ behalf of the commission I can't tell

2:53:38 ↗ you how much we do appreciate that so

2:53:42 ↗ with that um Miss do you mind if I throw

2:53:46 ↗ in my comment oh your comment I'm I I I

2:53:48 ↗ apologize sorry Mr chair

2:53:50 ↗ um the uh I'll try to be quick the

2:53:54 ↗ number one I'm extremely pleased that we

2:53:57 ↗ are seeing a large residential project

2:53:59 ↗ in the central isqua plan a big Focus

2:54:02 ↗ the the city and the citizens put a ton

2:54:04 ↗ of work into the central isquat plan and

2:54:06 ↗ a big focus of that was to get more

2:54:09 ↗ residential development in downtown

2:54:11 ↗ isqua so it's so gratifying to see a

2:54:13 ↗ large project come into town I

2:54:16 ↗ understand the concern about losing

2:54:17 ↗ retail which is never good but we have

2:54:20 ↗ far more retail than residential in

2:54:21 ↗ downtown isqua right now this helps

2:54:24 ↗ bring some balance and long term more

2:54:26 ↗ residents will bring more demand for

2:54:29 ↗ more

2:54:30 ↗ retail

2:54:32 ↗ um I'm have been very impressed with the

2:54:34 ↗ Creative Design on this site I when I

2:54:37 ↗ heard this was going to be developed I

2:54:38 ↗ kind of wondered how would anybody build

2:54:41 ↗ in a flood plane and uh I think it's

2:54:44 ↗ extremely creative what you've done with

2:54:47 ↗ uh the swailes with the trails the

2:54:50 ↗ connections um it's it's a greatl

2:54:53 ↗ looking project and thanks for the

2:54:55 ↗ presentation um and also thanks for

2:54:58 ↗ staff for the excellent report that you

2:55:00 ↗ put together the first time through in

2:55:02 ↗ the CIP and uh a difficult thing to

2:55:06 ↗ convey and it was very helpful the

2:55:07 ↗ report that you did um I don't think a

2:55:11 ↗ second path through the building SE

2:55:14 ↗ Courtyard is necessary I'd agree with

2:55:16 ↗ the applicant that creating that area

2:55:19 ↗ for the residents separated and with a

2:55:21 ↗ burm that creates

2:55:23 ↗ that um uh deterrent to people just

2:55:28 ↗ crossing through there anyway I would

2:55:30 ↗ agree with the applicant with that um I

2:55:33 ↗ do also agree with commissioner uh

2:55:35 ↗ Harrison that it's chair Harrison that

2:55:38 ↗ it's important I think to get some kind

2:55:39 ↗ of flashing sign at that crosswalk

2:55:43 ↗ because I hopefully there's 's going to

2:55:44 ↗ be a lot of traffic on that trail and

2:55:46 ↗ people going from here over to the

2:55:47 ↗ retail area and we would I when I say

2:55:51 ↗ traffic I mean a lot of pedestrian

2:55:52 ↗ traffic so I would love to see them

2:55:54 ↗ protected so um can I um yeah just add

2:55:58 ↗ one comment um I've talked to the isqua

2:56:02 ↗ police about those signs because there

2:56:04 ↗ was another location where we had

2:56:07 ↗ thought that was a good idea and and

2:56:09 ↗ they were fairly resistant so this is a

2:56:11 ↗ great opportunity to go back and have

2:56:13 ↗ that convers again so we'll find out

2:56:15 ↗ more information um but I just want to

2:56:18 ↗ warn you that I've I've gotten kind of

2:56:20 ↗ mixed messages um about I I don't it

2:56:23 ↗ doesn't have to be the kind of thing

2:56:24 ↗ that's on Newport as far as I'm

2:56:25 ↗ concerned it just has to be something

2:56:27 ↗ that addresses uh people's attention

2:56:31 ↗ we'll get more information on thatas

2:56:34 ↗ great um uh question about the parking

2:56:38 ↗ being adequate um and if this was a big

2:56:40 ↗ focus of the CIP and Miss Marshall I

2:56:43 ↗ think it was brought this this up as a

2:56:45 ↗ concern the and as Jerry mentioned the

2:56:48 ↗ the code had been two stalls per unit

2:56:50 ↗ regardless of size so a Studio unit

2:56:52 ↗ would require two parking stalls one of

2:56:55 ↗ the ideas behind the CIP is to encourage

2:56:58 ↗ people to get out of their cars to not

2:57:00 ↗ require a car to live in downtown isqua

2:57:03 ↗ so the number one I don't think a

2:57:06 ↗ developer wants to build a partments

2:57:08 ↗ that people won't rent because there's

2:57:09 ↗ not adequate parking but number two the

2:57:13 ↗ central isqua plan wants to reduce

2:57:16 ↗ parking in order to encourage people to

2:57:18 ↗ use Alternative forms of transportation

2:57:21 ↗ whether it's the bus or a bike or

2:57:23 ↗ walking to work perhaps at a store or an

2:57:26 ↗ office in downtown isqua so um I know it

2:57:30 ↗ can be a

2:57:31 ↗ concern but hopefully we've got a lot of

2:57:35 ↗ people that would still want to live

2:57:36 ↗ here and say you know what maybe I don't

2:57:37 ↗ need a second car maybe I can do

2:57:40 ↗ short-term rental something else um I do

2:57:44 ↗ agree uh with Miss Marshall we should

2:57:46 ↗ have a interpretive info something at

2:57:49 ↗ the creek uh is she brought up um and

2:57:52 ↗ another good point that Connie made

2:57:54 ↗ about the buffer vegetation should be

2:57:56 ↗ considered uh Landscaping so it's

2:57:59 ↗ perpetually maintained I didn't realize

2:58:01 ↗ that was the case and so thank you for

2:58:03 ↗ bringing that up and I think it's a

2:58:04 ↗ great

2:58:06 ↗ idea um as for the Flood information the

2:58:09 ↗ city of isqua provides an excellent

2:58:12 ↗ comprehensive

2:58:14 ↗ uh pamphlet on flooding for Citizens the

2:58:18 ↗ isqua citizens Corps last year uh

2:58:22 ↗ delivered pamphlets to everybody that

2:58:23 ↗ lived within a certain number of feet of

2:58:27 ↗ isqua Creek we went around door too

2:58:29 ↗ delivering these to make people aware so

2:58:32 ↗ you should be getting it anyway but I

2:58:34 ↗ would suggest you talk to the city it's

2:58:36 ↗ a great pamphlet it's already there and

2:58:38 ↗ it's would be excellent for the

2:58:40 ↗ residents um and then finally I think on

2:58:42 ↗ the the building design design I think

2:58:45 ↗ it they're very interesting buildings in

2:58:46 ↗ a lot of ways but they're I'd agree the

2:58:49 ↗ monotone roof line um I think is a bit

2:58:52 ↗ of an issue and the fact that it only

2:58:54 ↗ modulates in two planes I like the

2:58:56 ↗ modulation that's been done but it only

2:58:58 ↗ really modulates in two planes and if

2:59:01 ↗ there can be some some angled elements

2:59:04 ↗ added to the building whether

2:59:06 ↗ it's some shading over Windows things

2:59:09 ↗ like that I think that could be very

2:59:10 ↗ helpful and I think we've heard a few

2:59:12 ↗ Commissioners talk about

2:59:14 ↗ the design issue and again thank you for

2:59:16 ↗ coming in and thanks for the public for

2:59:19 ↗ your participation thank you Mr

2:59:22 ↗ chair if there are no further comments

2:59:25 ↗ from members of the commission um then I

2:59:27 ↗ will declare this meeting to be

2:59:29 ↗ adjourned thank you very

2:59:42 ↗ much

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