Planning Policy Commission · Thursday, April 24, 2014 · City Council Digest

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Planning Policy Commission About Contacts Created in 1983, this commission serves as a policy advisory body to the Mayor and provides guidance and direction for Issaquah’s Staff Liaison future growth through continued review and improvement to the Trish Heinonen, Planning City’s Comprehensive Land Use Plan and related land use Manager documents. Email

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0:30 ↗ good evening we're on the air

0:35 ↗ all five of us waiting for the public to

0:39 ↗ come streaming in and fill the chairs

0:42 ↗ tonight's the uh April 20 April

0:46 ↗ 24th meeting

0:48 ↗ of planned policy Commission

0:50 ↗ since we don't have enough members

0:52 ↗ present for a quorum we're not going to

0:54 ↗ be able to approve the lab minutes from

0:55 ↗ the last meeting

0:57 ↗ so we'll hold that off till the next

1:00 ↗ meeting

1:01 ↗ so tonight we have presentation of the

1:03 ↗ proposed 2015-2020 Transportation

1:05 ↗ Improvement plan program

1:07 ↗ and Gary the floor is yours alrighty

1:10 ↗ thank you thank you very much on the

1:12 ↗ program Carl uh thank you members of the

1:14 ↗ planning policy commission uh Gary Costa

1:17 ↗ Transportation manager for Public Works

1:18 ↗ engineering I'm pleased to present with

1:21 ↗ to use the 2015-2020 uh Transportation

1:24 ↗ Improvement program for the next 20

1:26 ↗ years also we include the the 20-year

1:28 ↗ program

1:29 ↗ but as required by the state state law

1:33 ↗ we're required to in order to be able to

1:35 ↗ use state and federal funding and half

1:38 ↗ half cent gas X funding we need to have

1:40 ↗ the projects listed in the the tip

1:46 ↗ this relates to construction projects

1:48 ↗ that are using uh what's called the

1:51 ↗ moving ahead for progress in the 21st

1:53 ↗ century act and and also the projects

1:56 ↗ funding from the Transportation

1:58 ↗ Improvement board funding

2:02 ↗ map 21 was established enacted back in

2:05 ↗ July 6 of 2012. it stands for moving

2:09 ↗ ahead for progress in the 21st century

2:11 ↗ and it authorized the federal service

2:14 ↗ and transportation programs for highways

2:16 ↗ and Highway Safety and Transit

2:20 ↗ as part of the process in beginning the

2:24 ↗ uh getting the tip through to adoption

2:26 ↗ we're here tonight at the planning

2:28 ↗ policy Commission

2:30 ↗ on May May 19th will be council meeting

2:33 ↗ to set the public hearing for the June

2:37 ↗ 16th public hearing date

2:39 ↗ on May 29th we'll be taking this forward

2:42 ↗ to the Chamber of Commerce government

2:43 ↗ Affairs committee

2:45 ↗ and then on June 12th the council

2:47 ↗ infrastructure committee will be

2:48 ↗ reviewing it

2:50 ↗ will hold a public hearing again on June

2:52 ↗ 16th and then we'll submit this to psrc

2:54 ↗ on June 20th and washed out on June 21st

3:01 ↗ so in the past years we've made several

3:03 ↗ enhancements to the tip that have come

3:05 ↗ about from PPC group here and the

3:08 ↗ committee or Commission

3:10 ↗ that is incorporating the safety

3:13 ↗ capacity and concurrency charts well

3:16 ↗ actually concurrency don't have those

3:18 ↗ anymore I should take that out

3:19 ↗ includes a 20-year future year

3:22 ↗ project listing

3:24 ↗ the transit and trans support of

3:28 ↗ programs are no longer in the tip but

3:32 ↗ they're they are showing up in our

3:34 ↗ operating budget

3:39 ↗ because they're not a capital

3:41 ↗ Improvement it's uh it's more of an

3:44 ↗ operating to operate the transit and

3:49 ↗ um

3:51 ↗ anything related to the so those are

3:53 ↗ ongoing costs yeah not the initiality

3:55 ↗ right if you were building a bus shelter

3:58 ↗ that would be Capital that would be

4:00 ↗ account but if you're funding the 200

4:01 ↗ that's right so these are things like

4:04 ↗ the transit now with route 269

4:07 ↗ paying the fare box fee for Route 200

4:10 ↗ right those things

4:14 ↗ so we continue to budget for Route 200

4:16 ↗ and also for the transit now Route 26

4:18 ↗ Route 269 and

4:20 ↗ and not the transit now for Route 200

4:22 ↗ but the

4:24 ↗ um the fare box route 200

4:26 ↗ . we also included the non-motorized

4:30 ↗ improvements

4:32 ↗ um that have come up from our complete

4:34 ↗ streets program that include

4:36 ↗ improvements to bike lanes and sidewalks

4:39 ↗ also crosswalks and also audible

4:42 ↗ pedestrians signal indications

4:44 ↗ and then the projects that came about

4:45 ↗ from the bike ped plan we've included

4:48 ↗ the projects from

4:50 ↗ that plan

4:54 ↗ and this is the listing of the input

4:57 ↗ that we've received or will be receiving

4:59 ↗ and have in the past during the year

5:01 ↗ requests from the public

5:04 ↗ also through the city council goals that

5:06 ↗ have established for 2014.

5:09 ↗ Central Issaquah plan that adopt that

5:12 ↗ adopted that was adopted and approved

5:15 ↗ various projects

5:16 ↗ city-wide bike and pet plan that has

5:20 ↗ 12 13 projects in that plan

5:23 ↗ coming forward to the planning policy

5:25 ↗ Commission

5:26 ↗ comments that we received from the

5:28 ↗ Transportation Task Force at the chamber

5:31 ↗ going forward with the council

5:33 ↗ Transportation committee

5:34 ↗ and then we have projects that are

5:37 ↗ carried forward from previous years and

5:39 ↗ then whatever comes about from the

5:41 ↗ public hearing on June 16th

5:46 ↗ this is a listing of our first 18

5:48 ↗ projects I want to highlight the

5:51 ↗ projects that came about from the bike

5:53 ↗ ped plan and that's the ones that are

5:56 ↗ highlighted in in green

5:58 ↗ though however those first two in blue

6:00 ↗ though the black nugget black Nugget

6:03 ↗ Road retaining wall repair and a

6:04 ↗ Mountainside Drive slide repair

6:06 ↗ are improvements that we feel we need to

6:08 ↗ make next year

6:10 ↗ those are brand new ones right those are

6:13 ↗ new

6:14 ↗ um the black nugget retaining wall has

6:16 ↗ been in there as a future year project

6:18 ↗ but we have some improvements that we

6:20 ↗ need to make that came about from a

6:22 ↗ study that was done a couple years ago

6:25 ↗ and so we need to make those

6:27 ↗ improvements otherwise we want to make

6:28 ↗ sure that that wall has safe integrity

6:31 ↗ and stays in place

6:33 ↗ and the Mountainside Drive side repair

6:35 ↗ that's where a study determine what we

6:37 ↗ need to do to that roadway to stabilize

6:39 ↗ it if anything

6:42 ↗ the project number five is listed as

6:44 ↗ complete streets they're they're about

6:46 ↗ three or four projects in the um

6:49 ↗ bike ped plan that would be able to be

6:51 ↗ funded through the complete streets

6:53 ↗ program these are projects that are

6:57 ↗ 5250 000 improvements

7:02 ↗ number seven is the north Issaquah

7:04 ↗ roadway Improvement c610 Parkway project

7:06 ↗ that was part of the bike ped plan and

7:09 ↗ this project is moving forward through

7:11 ↗ design we're at 60 percent we'll have

7:14 ↗ design completed by June and we're

7:17 ↗ actually be applying for additional

7:19 ↗ federal funds uh this summer

7:22 ↗ we actually knows this spring I mean

7:24 ↗ sorry May

7:25 ↗ uh for 2.5 million dollars and we've

7:28 ↗ already received 3.4 million dollars

7:30 ↗ from tib

7:33 ↗ number eight or sorry number nine is the

7:36 ↗ uh 12th Avenue sr800 improvements that

7:39 ↗ included bike lanes and sidewalks

7:42 ↗ for the bike ped plan

7:44 ↗ 11 is the Northwest Holly Street that

7:46 ↗ runs along the

7:48 ↗ um

7:50 ↗ along the the park

7:53 ↗ that will carry the non-motorized trail

7:57 ↗ all the way to Sunset I mean to Newport

7:59 ↗ Way excuse me

8:01 ↗ um

8:04 ↗ and then number 12 is three Trails

8:05 ↗ Crossing improvements and that's

8:07 ↗ providing a traffic signal at Gilman

8:10 ↗ Crossing at Juniper Street

8:14 ↗ number 15 we are identifying as a

8:17 ↗ tributary 170 Trail because it basically

8:20 ↗ runs along the 170 trib

8:24 ↗ and it provides

8:26 ↗ non-motorized trail from basically 12th

8:28 ↗ Avenue runs along I-90 and will connect

8:31 ↗ in to 4th Avenue Lake Drive where our

8:34 ↗ North Issaquah roadway Network

8:36 ↗ improvements will be extended to

8:39 ↗ and that would then connect to the

8:41 ↗ Pickering trail that you take over to

8:42 ↗ the Sammamish Trail

8:45 ↗ and number 18 is the Northeast Goma

8:47 ↗ Boulevard

8:48 ↗ improvements for bike lane from Front

8:51 ↗ Street to Triple X driveway

8:56 ↗ 20 is the continuation of that

8:59 ↗ on Gilman Boulevard

9:01 ↗ and then extending onto Third Avenue

9:04 ↗ across Third Avenue Bridge and

9:06 ↗ connecting with sunset way and that

9:08 ↗ would be a non-motorized trail

9:11 ↗ an East Sunset way improvements that

9:14 ↗ includes a cycle track that was

9:16 ↗ recommended out of the bike plan

9:20 ↗ that goes from basically from Front

9:21 ↗ Street to the sunset interchange

9:26 ↗ and that's basically the rest of the

9:27 ↗ projects are projects that are in the

9:29 ↗ tip from last year and most of those you

9:32 ↗ see through 39 are from the centralized

9:36 ↗ Squad plan

9:40 ↗ the pair of sorted the products project

9:42 ↗ type so you can see how they're

9:45 ↗ coming out with depending on whether

9:48 ↗ it's traffic calming or roadway

9:49 ↗ improvements so these are two categories

9:51 ↗ in the traffic calming area and the

9:53 ↗ roadway improvements

9:55 ↗ and then we our break within our break

9:57 ↗ broke them down to roadway maintenance

9:59 ↗ Street overlay program

10:01 ↗ then the non-motorized facilities

10:03 ↗ alternative transportations from

10:06 ↗ three Trails Crossing trip 170.

10:09 ↗ some Spanish Trail grade separation

10:12 ↗ Northwest Sammamish road non-motorized

10:14 ↗ crossing

10:15 ↗ 10th Avenue non-motorized Crossing and

10:17 ↗ the Northwest Mall Street pedestrian

10:19 ↗ corridor

10:20 ↗ then we have the Dogwood Bridge

10:21 ↗ replacement that's moving forward in

10:23 ↗ design

10:25 ↗ with construction to occur next year

10:28 ↗ and then we have the Front Street I-90

10:30 ↗ interchange reconfiguration

10:32 ↗ that's

10:34 ↗ set up in the future years

10:39 ↗ one of the things that the PPC ones who

10:42 ↗ know is how these projects relate to

10:46 ↗ multimodal comparisons relating to

10:49 ↗ okay comparing it with roadway capacity

10:52 ↗ to Transit supportive sidewalks and

10:54 ↗ non-motorize and this breaks those

10:57 ↗ projects out that that you can um see

11:00 ↗ how whether or not they're how they fit

11:03 ↗ in each one of those categories

11:06 ↗ and this is the rest of the 39 projects

11:12 ↗ we also break the projects up by matrix

11:16 ↗ whether it's a capacity Improvement

11:18 ↗ project non-motorized

11:21 ↗ with some maintenance Improvement

11:24 ↗ or Traffic Safety storm drain utility

11:26 ↗ operations planning or parking

11:30 ↗ so these shows how the projects are

11:33 ↗ broken out

11:34 ↗ and then this is the rest of them to

11:41 ↗ then we're showing here the project

11:43 ↗ phases and when we're planning on moving

11:44 ↗ forward with the improvements

11:46 ↗ we plan to

11:49 ↗ make some improvements for the black

11:50 ↗ nugget retaining wall repair in 2015

11:54 ↗ the Mountainside Drive will be a study

11:56 ↗ and possibly some construction

12:00 ↗ and then we have the street overlay

12:02 ↗ program where we pretty much every year

12:04 ↗ have overlays going on

12:06 ↗ and same with the complete streaks

12:08 ↗ program

12:10 ↗ we have the Dogwood Bridge we'll start

12:12 ↗ construction in 2015.

12:14 ↗ and that project will actually close the

12:17 ↗ bridge for a period of time

12:21 ↗ um so that we can get the bridge removed

12:22 ↗ across the creek and then get a get the

12:25 ↗ bridge rebuilt

12:28 ↗ most of that would be done during the

12:30 ↗ school when school is out

12:33 ↗ East Lake Sam Parkway Improvement

12:34 ↗ widening

12:36 ↗ will be starting right away acquisition

12:40 ↗ and

12:41 ↗ this says construction actually 2015 yes

12:44 ↗ and 2015 will be starting construction

12:46 ↗ and we should have Construction done in

12:48 ↗ 2016 and right away should be actually

12:50 ↗ done in 2015.

12:54 ↗ the Southeast 62nd improvements are

12:57 ↗ still in design and construction is

13:00 ↗ expected till 2017.

13:03 ↗ and the 12th Avenue Northwest

13:05 ↗ improvements and 900 we expect to be at

13:08 ↗ Construction in 2018 2019.

13:11 ↗ and basically the rest of those are kind

13:13 ↗ of getting further out so I'm going to

13:14 ↗ skip over those

13:17 ↗ and then these are all out in future

13:19 ↗ years

13:22 ↗ this gives a comparison of the

13:24 ↗ comprehensive plan and compared to

13:27 ↗ what's in the 2015-2020 tip

13:31 ↗ um

13:33 ↗ I'll just leave that um

13:35 ↗ go through this and if you have any

13:37 ↗ questions you can let me know

13:40 ↗ and on this the non-motorized portion of

13:43 ↗ them the projects that were completed

13:47 ↗ and that are in the comp plan

13:52 ↗ yeah this is the map of the improvements

13:54 ↗ and that concludes my presentation

13:58 ↗ hey thank you

14:04 ↗ so I couldn't figure

14:06 ↗ from reading the description several

14:09 ↗ projects talked about bicycle and

14:12 ↗ pedestrian safety and talk about

14:14 ↗ sidewalks but is there any new can you

14:18 ↗ can you elaborate on where sidewalks are

14:22 ↗ being created or widens and where bike

14:25 ↗ Lanes if any bike lanes are being

14:27 ↗ created did you say a particular project

14:30 ↗ well the ones that seem to be this the

14:33 ↗ seven eight and nine I think are the

14:36 ↗ ones that mentioned safety Improvement

14:38 ↗ for pedestrians and bicycles

14:41 ↗ well a number project number seven East

14:44 ↗ Lake Sam Parkway

14:46 ↗ um we will be installing a bike lane

14:49 ↗ on the southbound direction from 56 all

14:53 ↗ the way down to almost Issaquah Falls

14:56 ↗ City Road okay

14:58 ↗ um a sidewalk will be constructed

15:00 ↗ basically starting

15:02 ↗ just south of or about right at about

15:05 ↗ where black Nugget Road is and there'll

15:08 ↗ also be two connections to the King

15:10 ↗ County Trail one at black Nugget Road

15:12 ↗ another connection about 350 feet south

15:15 ↗ of black Nugget Road

15:16 ↗ and where we have sidewalks will be

15:18 ↗ we'll also be including a seven foot

15:20 ↗ landscape buffer in between the curb and

15:22 ↗ the sidewalk okay what about the the

15:25 ↗ bike lane separated from the the traffic

15:28 ↗ the car traffic no the bike lane bike

15:30 ↗ lanes are part of the roadway

15:33 ↗ because we have the trail because the

15:35 ↗ the King County Trail is so close right

15:37 ↗ that we don't need to do a non-motorized

15:40 ↗ trail trade was closed for quite a while

15:42 ↗ and I had to ride my bike on the yeah on

15:44 ↗ the road there and it was pretty

15:45 ↗ dangerous

15:48 ↗ the bike Lanes five feet where it's like

15:51 ↗ where we have a race curb thank you

15:55 ↗ and then in your 809 anything there uh

15:59 ↗ well number eight that's the extension

16:02 ↗ of Southeast 62nd Street

16:04 ↗ from East Lake Sam Parkway

16:07 ↗ we will actually have a cycle track on

16:10 ↗ the north side of the road from

16:11 ↗ East Lake Sam Parkway to the roundabout

16:14 ↗ the proposed roundabout at 4th Avenue

16:17 ↗ will we also have

16:20 ↗ a great separation for the King County

16:22 ↗ Trail

16:24 ↗ and so when the cycle track will come

16:26 ↗ down and tie into the King County Trail

16:29 ↗ as you continue further west

16:32 ↗ there will be a sidewalk

16:34 ↗ on the north side of the bridge that

16:35 ↗ goes across izqua Creek and that will

16:38 ↗ continue to Lake Drive

16:40 ↗ what we're doing to we're not doing a

16:43 ↗ sidewalk on the south side and we're not

16:44 ↗ doing bike Lanes on that section of road

16:46 ↗ because we're going to widen the

16:47 ↗ Pickering Trail to take the place of

16:49 ↗ that

16:51 ↗ and on 12th Avenue 907 12th Avenue

16:54 ↗ that's our 917th Avenue Northwest

16:57 ↗ we're adding widening the sidewalk

17:01 ↗ on both sides of 12 as it approaches 900

17:05 ↗ and we're adding bike Lanes

17:11 ↗ anything so separated from the traffic

17:13 ↗ no no

17:24 ↗ okay cool

17:28 ↗ hey

17:39 ↗ thank you

17:41 ↗ um

17:44 ↗ some projects never seem to get any

17:46 ↗ higher on the list

17:49 ↗ one I looked at we've talked about it

17:51 ↗ many many times that Providence point

17:53 ↗ intersection

17:56 ↗ it's it's sitting down there at

18:00 ↗ 28 for out years

18:04 ↗ you know

18:05 ↗ down the road has been there for a long

18:06 ↗ time and all of a sudden we've got the

18:09 ↗ Northwest Holly Street as a new one

18:12 ↗ uh the tributary

18:15 ↗ oh

18:17 ↗ 170 Trail

18:19 ↗ Northwest Northeast Gilman Boulevard

18:21 ↗ between front and the triple x

18:24 ↗ and Gilman Boulevard Third Avenue

18:27 ↗ Northeast according to your cover letter

18:29 ↗ those are new ones

18:31 ↗ and I know that the apparently the

18:34 ↗ Mountain Drive slide repairs something

18:37 ↗ has to be done so that gets kicked up I

18:39 ↗ can understand that

18:40 ↗ but how do these guys get on the list

18:43 ↗ and all of a sudden I

18:44 ↗ I guess in the past we've talked about

18:46 ↗ it in some availability money and when

18:48 ↗ they can get done and right

18:51 ↗ but I just think all those people

18:52 ↗ Providence Point been waiting a long

18:53 ↗ time to get that intersection fixed well

18:56 ↗ it's a lot you're right it's a lot of

18:58 ↗ money and part of the reason is because

19:01 ↗ it's serving private property but

19:05 ↗ private drives

19:06 ↗ and because of that it makes it really

19:08 ↗ difficult to acquire grants from like

19:12 ↗ the federal agencies or the state

19:15 ↗ and so because it's a lot of money there

19:18 ↗ are projects that have higher priorities

19:19 ↗ at least for

19:22 ↗ you know

19:24 ↗ because we can we we have other projects

19:26 ↗ where we can have a higher competition

19:28 ↗ for outside sources of funding and it

19:31 ↗ just makes it really hard to fund that I

19:34 ↗ I mean it's just a matter of

19:38 ↗ um

19:38 ↗ priorities and where it gets place

19:44 ↗ but it doesn't it does not going to stop

19:45 ↗ if there is ever a grant that that comes

19:48 ↗ up that would make sense to apply for we

19:51 ↗ could still apply for the grant because

19:52 ↗ it is on the tip right and that's I

19:55 ↗ guess the important thing is these

19:56 ↗ projects are on here right so that we

19:59 ↗ can look at that

20:00 ↗ okay

20:01 ↗ other than that I think it's a you know

20:03 ↗ they're all well described and we know

20:05 ↗ what's going on in a matter of money and

20:07 ↗ availability and time and all that kind

20:09 ↗ of good stuff so I don't have any other

20:11 ↗ questions thank you

20:17 ↗ I'm not same as you do in the past that

20:19 ↗ would be great

20:20 ↗ okay

20:25 ↗ no I don't think so

20:28 ↗ I agree my only concern is that there's

20:30 ↗ only two of us here so I don't know how

20:32 ↗ we can really do anything

20:36 ↗ as a commission because we don't have a

20:38 ↗ quorum so I don't know how we can

20:39 ↗ approve or recommend anything

20:42 ↗ so I don't know what you you know

20:46 ↗ we we

20:48 ↗ support but we cannot

20:51 ↗ you know recommend approval because we

20:52 ↗ don't have a quorum okay does that seem

20:56 ↗ to fit the bill right thank you okay

21:00 ↗ thank you very much

21:03 ↗ the good of the orders we can't vote

21:05 ↗ because we don't have a quorum so we'll

21:07 ↗ have to figure out who's going to be to

21:08 ↗ Chairman the next time

21:10 ↗ do that do you have an idea when the

21:13 ↗ next meeting is going to be

21:28 ↗ yeah that would be the

21:33 ↗ yeah because the first is May the first

21:36 ↗ of is next Thursday so then the next so

21:39 ↗ two weeks from tonight

21:42 ↗ and what are we talking about two weeks

21:43 ↗ from tonight

21:57 ↗ we've done it twice before

21:58 ↗ um

22:00 ↗ a big supposedly big update but since we

22:03 ↗ updated every year it's not as big for

22:06 ↗ us plus we just finished the central

22:07 ↗ plan which we have our growth targets

22:10 ↗ and the central plans

22:18 ↗ sorry so

22:20 ↗ it's going to be an update but it's not

22:23 ↗ going to be

22:24 ↗ a huge update like a lot of the like

22:26 ↗ Kirkland has spent all sorts of money

22:28 ↗ and they're doing all this work because

22:30 ↗ they haven't done theirs every year and

22:33 ↗ so um there's a couple communities that

22:35 ↗ are going all out this is like their

22:37 ↗ huge review ours I mean it'll be big in

22:39 ↗ that we're going to have to update all

22:41 ↗ the elements but it's not going to be I

22:43 ↗ don't think it's going to be a lot of

22:44 ↗ life-changing transformative kind of

22:47 ↗ things

22:48 ↗ what about the fact that we're going to

22:50 ↗ have all new members are we going to

22:52 ↗ have to vote before the meeting to get

22:53 ↗ that organized since

22:56 ↗ or no we might just have to vote

22:58 ↗ and have them

23:01 ↗ we usually try to do it in April when

23:04 ↗ the existing their terms starts next

23:07 ↗ Thursday that starts on the 8th yeah so

23:09 ↗ they're going to be they're going to be

23:10 ↗ here coming in and and

23:13 ↗ guys at all

23:15 ↗ dollars or so I I just always feel bad

23:18 ↗ that some commissions have to vote their

23:20 ↗ first meeting so

23:22 ↗ I I'm not sure how you'd want to handle

23:25 ↗ that I guess

23:26 ↗ they can abstain if they feel terribly

23:28 ↗ uncomfortable from boating

23:31 ↗ death I mean they've been on many boards

23:35 ↗ where that's that's how it's being done

23:36 ↗ first meeting I mean you you may not

23:40 ↗ have a strong opinion that you

23:44 ↗ yeah but I will but you do have you know

23:48 ↗ you you have something one thing that

23:49 ↗ would probably help and I would suggest

23:51 ↗ is that I know that copying stuff is not

23:54 ↗ easy now

23:56 ↗ you know I had to pick up my own copy

23:58 ↗ because you can't do that I would

24:00 ↗ strongly recommend it at least for the

24:02 ↗ next meeting all the new member

24:04 ↗ everything get mailed for them if

24:05 ↗ possible ahead of time okay you know

24:08 ↗ just so that they can have it in hand

24:10 ↗ and not have to rely on looking online

24:12 ↗ or something they'll

24:14 ↗ at least get the feeling that

24:16 ↗ we're looking at their something again

24:19 ↗ to read right or even that that they

24:22 ↗ have the option because I know when I

24:23 ↗ used to email them to you I would always

24:25 ↗ say right in the if if you need a copy

24:27 ↗ let me know whereas the new group that's

24:28 ↗ taken it over they just assume that

24:30 ↗ everybody's very computer literate I

24:33 ↗ would I kind of have to remind them yeah

24:35 ↗ they don't get scented because I know

24:37 ↗ that I I can't look at this stuff on the

24:39 ↗ computer right some especially the

24:41 ↗ numbers

24:43 ↗ I don't right and we're going to do a

24:45 ↗ couple of old dinosaurs like books and

24:47 ↗ turning paper and all that kind of stuff

24:49 ↗ and we're going to do a couple of

24:50 ↗ icebreakers to kind of make them work

24:52 ↗ you know because there's going to be

24:53 ↗ eight if they all show up there'll be

24:55 ↗ eight new folks so we're going to do you

24:58 ↗ know introductions and kind of

25:00 ↗ um we won't do the quiz like I usually

25:02 ↗ do every time that the GMA quiz but

25:05 ↗ we're trying to think of things that'll

25:07 ↗ make people feel more comfortable and

25:09 ↗ just speaking up and talking to each

25:11 ↗ other and that kind of thing okay we'll

25:13 ↗ probably have to do that maybe in the

25:14 ↗ beginning of every meeting for a while

25:16 ↗ until people get their feet wet

25:19 ↗ but yeah should be exciting maybe do you

25:22 ↗ have email addresses for all the members

25:24 ↗ maybe you can send them to me and I can

25:26 ↗ write them a note welcome them ahead of

25:28 ↗ time

25:28 ↗ let's do that

25:31 ↗ who they are and

25:37 ↗ I can solicit their votes ahead of time

25:40 ↗ oh wait a minute

25:43 ↗ that would be something I'll send it to

25:45 ↗ Joan yeah

25:47 ↗ I'm going to tell them tell them we're

25:49 ↗ going to vote and here's the person

25:50 ↗ you're voting for right but they'll

25:53 ↗ remember Chantal and Joan from the

25:54 ↗ interviews though so you might have to

25:56 ↗ you know whether they remember or not as

26:00 ↗ another thing but

26:07 ↗ yeah they did they did and I wish not

26:10 ↗ because

26:14 ↗ oh really oh yeah so she was on the

26:17 ↗ interview panel for both both of them

26:18 ↗ yeah I wish I didn't do that for

26:21 ↗ development commission I wish we would

26:22 ↗ have gotten pictures for everybody as

26:24 ↗ they walked in because now I look at the

26:26 ↗ eight names and it's like okay I know

26:28 ↗ okay I'm of them and it's like okay is

26:30 ↗ this the one

26:32 ↗ because they kind of got blurry so I

26:34 ↗ have to go back through my notes and

26:35 ↗ make sure I can have a picture in my

26:37 ↗ head because okay

26:39 ↗ right

26:44 ↗ I'll look I'll ask

26:48 ↗ you but uh so our friend upstairs can go

26:50 ↗ home we can

26:51 ↗ adjourn it 706 and say the meeting's

26:54 ↗ completed okay thank you let's do that

26:57 ↗ thanks Wes

27:01 ↗ no this is good thank you

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