good evening the planning policy
Commission meeting for Thursday May 8th
will come to
order first item of business is to
welcome new members and
alternates and since we all haven't had
a chance to meet maybe the new guys
could just pull the microphone on cuz
you'll be on TV all the throngs at home
we have something for that oh we have
something for that sorry once again the
CH is left in the dark because he's
waiting for the throngs at home to come
in we got seats anyway should we do
approval of minutes first then or you
want to do your thing first my thing
well who's doing whatever you're doing
um I can start it because as Carl so
well Appley said not all of us know each
other so we're going to do a little game
to help us remember names okay I know it
might be a little silly but it's a good
thing trust me my name is Trish it
rhymes with fish and my favorite thing
about issaqua is the
people now the person next to me is
going to say her name and she's going to
say my name and what it rhymes with and
she's going to tell me what her favorite
thing about issaqua is I don't know if
Susan has to do this but she's giving me
the look no Susan does not have to do
this and then we'll go to Ry Ry will say
This Woman's name what it rhymes with
your name what it rhymes with and what's
your favorite thing we're going to go so
you only have to remember the names of
the people next to you but hopefully
it'll give you um some memory M muscle
memory so that you if you see us in the
grocery store next week you'll say
there's Trish and it rhymes with fish
and her favorite thing is isqua
people okay are we ready and then Carl
if you're really up for it then you have
to do everybody's name because you're
the chair how about that one we'll see
how it goes I'm Trisha it rhymes with
fish and my favorite thing about issaqua
is the
people you are Trish it rhymes with fish
um your favorite thing is the people and
oh that I don't have to say that my name
is Kristen it rhymes with
piston and my favorite thing about isqua
is the sunset exit when you drive up and
you just see the the Alps Tiger Mountain
right there it's really
cool very good great my
name
your you got to put your microphone on R
microphone over with the Red Dot you see
there you go okay my name is Ray reminds
with play your name
is Kristen
Kristen and your favorite thing is a
sunset is sunset uh exit and what you
see yes
good see how this is working out all
right next in English either way my name
is Brian rhymes with Lion good and who's
my right is Reay who could be called Jay
good you don't have and your favorite
thing Brian is pardon me your favorite
thing is
golf okay that work about it's a clock
good luck all right Brian rhymes with
Lion he loves golf
and my name is Bill rhymes with
pill um and uh I guess I probably should
um and uh my favorite thing is uh
walking and riding my bike around town
because I just live right here on the
flat
part my name is Mike I guess I'll say
trike of trike this is Bill the pill
part
is rhymes with pill um I think my
favorite thing about isqua is the
community my name is Laural it rhymes
with
snor this say Mike it rhymes with shke
um my favorite thing about isquat
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is the
preschool nice yes I like the preschool
system see my name is Susan I've been
trying to think of something that rhymes
with Su can't get there so let's see my
name is Sue it rhymes with Fu uh this is
Flora Flora Laurel Laurel rhymes with
snor yeah better and I love salmon
days my name is Chantel which ryes
with
dental I don't know did you think of RH
shant I think we were having troubles
with
that it's a good one though it's like
orange what rhymes with orange well I'm
try um so it rhymes with
something um and my favorite thing in
isaka is walking around it's walking
walking Shantel that rhymes with
something uh walking around
Isa uh my name is
Joan which
uh bone or moan I don't you take one of
those and the um the favorite thing at
ISA is the fact that it's a big city but
feels like a small City and it's very
unique in this uh Community this
area Joan Chantel SU Laurel Mike Bill
Brian Ray
[Applause]
[Laughter]
Kristen there you go and uh the only
thing I can think of rhymes with Carl is
Marl and I don't remember what that even
means I think it's like a colors Marl
colors I don't
remember but we could play Banana mana
mopan and be pan mop pany whatever that
song is we're gonna do that for the
public hearing are we okay no we're
not I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding
and your favorite thing car oh just
living in Israel
okay well on that note this is great do
you want to do the minutes now
chairperson I don't know am I supposed
to do okay it would be fine we'll now do
the minutes the first order of been is
the minutes from February
13th was quite a while that had passed
before we'd had a meeting and the last
time we went to approve the minutes
there weren't enough of us here to
approve them the best of us yeah that's
why we had to get all the numbers so are
there any additions or corrections to
the
minutes hearing none is there motion to
accept the
minutes I second moved and second it all
in favor I opposed
hearing none minutes for the for the
what
February ail 13th are approved next item
of business are minutes from April
24th when we didn't have a quorum and
couldn't approve the
minutes only there any additions or
corrections to those minutes
no I have a question and that um
according to the
minutes you were going to prepare a
letter for my signature yes I did did
you sign it yes you did okay and I did
sign it you did you loved it I thought
it was wonderful is that why I gave you
that check with my signature you never
given me a check oh that's a good that's
a good thing CU she has my electronic
signature I've got your signature but I
don't have a okay that's the only
question I got it well they might leave
we got to be real
careful they can't leave the public is
running in as we speak
um are there any no additions or
Corrections there's a motion to accept
the
minutes I'll
second all in favor I opposed hearing
none minutes for the
24th are approved okay now we can move
in to the item of business for tonight
Trish the floor is yours and because
this is um such a big update that we're
embarking on with um the seasoned
members and the new members um The
Association of Washington cities has
done several videos to help communities
that are working on their growth
management act uh comprehensive plan
periodic updates it's a long thing to
say and so two of them sounded when I
reviewed them all two of them they're
real short two of them seem like they'd
be appropriate for you all to hear from
other folks from other jurisdictions on
how they're approaching their periodic
update some things to think about um so
that you don't just hear Kristen and I
all the time that you hear some other
voices from other communities and what's
worked for them and how they're sort of
thinking about things um because you'll
probably hear from Kristen and I and
then Jason later on a lot so I thought
this might be a good way to just sort of
ease into it with some wisdoms from some
other areas and so there's just two I
think they're both maybe six minutes
long so and there's cookies here if you
need a treat before you watch a video um
feel free to come up anytime and and get
some
um the first
one
is comprehensive
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no comprehensive plans are all about
community and each of your cities has
its own character its own Vision its own
Direction ADC developed a series of
short videos to help you prepare your
GMA update each video contains a few key
Concepts and conversation St louder that
you can relate to your community this
segment looks at why your GMA plan
matters comp plan process is really an
opportunity for the community to come
together uh on their vision
1995 wasn't that long ago and 2035 isn't
that far
away but as a city council member I
wasn't here in 1995 and I probably won't
be here in
2035 so my job is to be a caretaker and
the job of the council is member at this
point is to really understand and hear
the voices of those who were here in
1995 and try to hear the voices of those
who will be here in 2035 I'm a caretaker
and I think that's the job of the
council and I think as we look forward
this is about vision for both the
history and the future well I think land
use is the driver of so many things that
we do in local government so many things
that we care about so many things that
are important to us um it drives so many
issues in our community things from
population to Quality of Life uh Public
Safety
uh additional Park amenities there's not
anything that I can think of that
doesn't touch land use or it's not
influenced directly by land use
communities have U the ability to make
choices and that's what the growth
management Act and the planning process
is all about is about making choices we
can grow and we can change the future of
our city um by choice and design or by
chance and I think most of us uh want to
create that Destiny for our own
communities and take the route of choice
and design and I think in mool that
there's nothing that we've done that has
been revolutionary but what we have done
is more from a comprehensive nature I
haven't found a community um yet that
has done so much holistically in terms
of its planning process related to its
Economic Development efforts to
revitalize a downtown and so all the
tools that are available to us under the
growth management act we have utilized
and it's been very effective for us in
terms of really working through the
recession and now generating post
recession private investment in our
downtown there's nothing preventing a
community that wants to use the growth
management planning act as a springboard
or a framework um if you will to to
create a new neighborhood plan to create
a new vision or direction for its
community and the growth management act
has has simply provided that for us I
would say that um as communities look
towards uh uh reimagining their own
communities as part of the the growth
management act process know that that
change is possible that it's really the
responsibility I believe the privilege
of local government to inspire their
communities that you can create the
future that your citizens want it's an
opportunity for us to uh engage in a
conversation of why the growth
management Act is important why does it
matter and I think that that is probably
one of the most important parts of the
of the comprehensive Plan update is to
talk about why is this important not
just for our city but for the region why
does it matter that we plan for growth
and I think that it is really important
now all these many years after the
growth management Act was passed to
remember why we do this we want to
welcome growth not stop growth not allow
growth not tolerate
but welcome it we know it's coming so
how do we make the the best possible
town that we can the magnitude of growth
that we will experience uh in Washington
State uh is very significant in excess
of a million people probably in the next
20 years
um the question in accommodating that uh
is one I suppose not to get frightened
by the numbers so much as it is to focus
on what the numbers represent
and how we will accommodate that growth
so if we look 20 years into the future
and and think about these numbers we
also need to think about what the job
base might look like how we will move
people and goods within the community
how we'll provide the services we need
and to be able to have a uh hopefully a
thoughtful honest and Rich discussion
with our community about what this
represents and how we will deal with
that question uh the reality is that
these people are they're not some
abstraction in terms of numbers uh
they're us they're our kids they're
families that are here because we have
a viable economy um sometimes it's
important to think about the flip side
if we didn't have a viable economy and
this was a ghost town well we wouldn't
have those problems so these are the
kind of problems we want to have the
question is what kind of Community are
we going to build to accommodate uh the
this growth and what kind of job base
and what kind of Lifestyle do we want to
have those are really the kind of sort
of central gut questions that uh ought
to drive our discussion and ultimately
our decision in the
comp two things about that little little
vignette that I really liked is I like
that I thought that I liked it enough
that I wanted to share it is that he
talked about being a caretaker because
so many of us I guess I was here back in
95 but you know the I don't think I'm
going to be here in 2031 I might I guess
but maybe not but the whole idea that
that we have to think out of the future
for the community and some people have
trouble with that they they're planning
their next vacation this year maybe a
family get together but the thought of
five years 10 years is just really hard
for people to wrap their their heads
around and so if we think of it as a
caretaker that we're getting the
community prepared to take steps into
what it's going to be in the future I
thought that was a good way to think
about it the other piece that I really
liked um is they're talking about the
growth that's coming and the good news
for this group is that uh when we did
the central isqua plan that we just
adopted finally last year after many
many years of of in-depth public
involvement we already figured out where
the next 20 years of growth is going and
so we don't have to worry about the
growth targets for this update which is
really great because sometimes that's
the hardest part is where do you put all
the new families and the people that are
working at the jobs where do you put all
those and we've the we as a group and
Council adopted that already so that's a
good thing to not have to worry about
now we just have to worry about making
it the best place that we can you know
when they all show up in the next 20
years are there questions about this one
before I start the next little short
one okay and the reason I picked the
next one I guess is kind of a selfish um
reason um when we adopted our
comprehensive plan in 95 long time ago
it seems but yes just yesterday we were
one of the few communities that um
adopted um elements that were not
required we were just overachievers even
back then and uh there was a little quiz
in your packet on if you could tell
which ones those were uh we still have a
couple that aren't required and that
we're very proud of and so this uh
little video they talked about that
communities get to choose which elements
they put in and I just felt pretty proud
that we chose right from the beginning
that Parks were very important to us
Human Services were very important to us
and cultural um amenities were very
important to issaqua and so we were kind
of the Front Runners and economic
development actually wasn't required
back then and so we were we were way out
in front even back in 1995 um this also
um one of the speakers is from our
sister city samamish talking about how
they're working on their update and they
have some neat ideas and um I just
thought this was a really good one for
us to see as well comprehensive plans
are all about community and each of your
cities has its own character its own
Vision its own Direction AWC developed a
series of short videos to help you
prepare your GMA update each video
contains a few key Concepts and
conversation starters that you can
relate to your community this segment
looks at your GMA choices what's
mandatory what's optional vision
statements uh ought to be at pretty
broad pretty high level um but they
should emphasize uh the aspirations of
your community and they should reflect
uh what you want to see in that
Community um if that plan is in fact
implemented
Faithfully uh by the public sector and
by the private sector over the course of
time that Vision should be uh something
that you want to see as an end product
uh that 20 years from now uh so uh I
think we'll we'll see those kinds of new
priorities like Economic Development
like sustainability um and one that I'm
very excited about is the idea of
Community Health uh healthy Community um
is something that's very important to uh
just about everybody who lives in
Washington State uh we're finding out
more and more about how the built
environment relates to issues of Public
Health and individual health I'm looking
forward to how our comprehensive plan
might in fact be a venue for us to talk
about those issues uh more fully and uh
find some new policy goals and hopefully
some new implementation mechanisms to
see our community even healthier 20
years from now sustainability is a very
important subject in in samamish we
spent about two years crafting a
sustainability strategy and I think it
will form a nice basis for for our
upcoming comprehensive plan um process
that will complete by mid
2015 uh that element reflects a lot of
local priorities in fact we were lucky
enough to get a very strong level of
public involvement in crafting our
sustainability element we had over 900
uh individuals from samamish contribute
to our public involvement process for
our sustainability strategy um so that's
a good reflection of local priorities I
think each City will have different
local priorities of Interest some may
emphasize energy conservation Others May
uh focus on climate change or solid
waste reduction uh in samamish uh a lot
of ours focused on habitat protection uh
water quality issues and energy
conservation well in some ways like the
sustainability strategy that's already
been completed uh we are now working on
an economic development strategy and and
I think we will plan to incorporate uh
that into our comprehensive Plan update
it'll be interesting to see how uh the
policies and priorities that are coming
out of that strategy uh will be
reflected in the comprehensive plan
again it may be one of those overarching
themes um uh or we may choose to make it
a separate Standalone element we'll have
to see what the best best fit is I think
that's one of the nice things about the
growth management Act is it gives you
some local flexibility as to how you
would actually manifest those local
priorities in your comprehensive plan
you can both have things that are
crosscutting themes that would reflect
several elements for example reflecting
land use housing and um transportation
for example um or you can have
Standalone elements that really speak
for themselves the planning fabric of
every Community is made up of a lot of
threads there's the comprehensive plan
and that gets most of the attention uh
and certainly that's what the is focused
that is the focus of the growth
management act but really when we look
at it uh below the surface there are a
number of other plans in most
communities uh we can call them plans
and systems or functional plans but
examples include uh Water Systems plans
uh Parks plans Transportation plan
elements uh and there are others uh and
each Community is a little different as
to how this work gets organized uh but
the importance is that uh this work
needs to be brought together and the
under the comp plan and the comp plan
really provides an opportunity to
revisit all of this work first of all
there's a legal o ation that it has to
be consistent so that is isn't and
shouldn't be taken lightly but the
reality is that this is an opportunity
to look at all of this as an integrated
system uh and the key to doing that is
to make sure that the staff actually has
the opportunity uh under the framework
of the comp plan to make sure that these
pieces work Parks plan needs to work
with with the comp plan Transportation
plan needs to work with the comp plan
water sewer and Utility Systems need to
all work with a comp plan the reality is
that the these elements were probably
developed at different times uh and
probably serve multiple purposes so this
is this is really a wonderful
opportunity to bring them together so
there is an integration but it's a
different piece and it's a different
level of understanding at each of those
levels at the public level at the
Planning Commission level and at the
city council level another option for
comprehensive plan or for planning in
general related to Economic Development
or other particular subjects is using
sub area plans so sub area plans of
course under the growth management act
are part of your comprehensive plan even
though they happen under a separate
process they're related um and part of
the plan but they may have their own
process uh and look at specific areas
within a city there are also of course
functional plans that can be done there
can be um other kinds of
strategies that a city undertakes for
example maybe you want um an economic
strategy that's that's at a more
detailed level than what you would put
in a comprehensive plan that's possible
too you could decide later whether you
want that to be an appendix in your
comprehensive plan or something that's
simply a standalone but obviously
coordinated and consistent with your
ultimate uh comprehensive plan whatever
you do whether it's improvements and
updates to your plan your regulations
your
processes celebrate the success that you
have revisit
it publicize it and
celebrate
okay and that ends the video portion of
our of our evening um the one piece I
would um reflect back um Cameron from
samamish was talking about the vision
and the vision in the plan and what we
shared with you in the handout um was
the vision of the land use element each
of the elements of the comprehensive
plan has a vision for that specific
element the plan itself doesn't have a
vision for the whole city the city
council has a vision for the city um
that they adopted in 1990 and um they
talk about updating it every now and
again um but that's different than the
actual land
element Vision the transportation
element vision and so um I was requested
to share the City Vision with you before
tonight but I was worried that it would
be it might be confusing because there
you know there might be too many visions
and and tonight we just wanted to focus
on the land use Vis Vision to get you
acquainted with the land use element um
the city's vision is pretty neat I read
I reread it again tonight with the
guiding principles and all that and
they're all pretty valid still I mean it
it's um it was good stuff back in 1990
and it still resonates um at least with
where I think the community is um and so
I wanted to to let you know that if
folks if you all start talking about the
vision make sure that that you're what
you that you know what you're focusing
on and that you're clear on um which
piece fits into where and so with that
um are there any questions before we
actually launch into um what we hope to
get through
tonight okay I'm glad no one's gone
screaming out of the
out of the room yet thinking this isn't
what I signed up for that's a good thing
see if I can get this
started um oh I should just hit the
button that always just scares me that
I'm
here okay tonight's goal is so that
you'll understand what the growth
management act that lovingly we call GMA
that you'll be able to talk about that
next time you're at the grocery store
you can say what what about that GMA and
people will know exactly what you're
talking about and why we're amending our
comp plan now um we're hoping that you
have a a good understanding of the land
use element why it's important why we're
working on that first and uh we're
hoping that by the end of tonight that
we have a complete list of goals or at
least we have an idea of what that
complete list of goals for the land use
element might look like based on what we
have today and what we think we need to
add and what you think we need to add so
that's what our hope for tonight
is okay
GMA what is it back in the 90s uh
Washington was growing like crazy any of
you that were here then houses were
selling overnight uh you might look at a
house to buy and it was already sold by
the time you got the appointment to look
at it I mean we were just bursting at
the seams and the utilities weren't
catching up and finally the state
legislature said this is crazy we're
wrecking our our own wonderful place
with the growth that's not managed well
and so they uh they provided growth
management act it came actually as an
initiative the citizens had an
initiative first and then the
legislature uh they weren't completely
happy with what the initiative was going
the direction and so they said wow we
better get moving or else the initiative
is going to be the way that we do
planning and so the legislator the
legislature uh figured it out as as best
they could and it's all about Regional
coordination it's all about cities and
counties and uh working together to
figure out how to manage the growth uh
it's all about setting up Urban growth
areas where the urban growth and urban
services are supposed to happen and the
rural areas are supposed to be more
protected and more low density without
sewer and water and those kinds of
things um it was pretty fabulous it was
um I think they we were third here um
Oregon being first and for Florida being
second to do growth
management these were the state goals
and you can tell just by the list of
them you can imagine what the problems
were that made them come up with these
14 um and they they all make sense still
this many years
after the
um if these if you can imagine that
there's 14 in the
state um oh I was thinking the next
slide from these 14 almost half of them
are addressed in the land use element
that's how important the land use
element is is it has almost all of the
growth management goals are ALS are
required in the land use element that's
why we're starting with that one
first
um the we've had different schedules for
periodic updates the last one we had was
in uh we had the first one was 2001 the
next one was 2006 and now they're saying
the next one will be in eight years
after I think the 2015 is when they
start counting the eight but we'll see
if we really have eight years or if
they'll change it um we just change it
when they tell us to change it um but um
it it gives us a good time to look over
those elements like for example Jonah
and I were talking about the cultural
element we haven't touched that since we
first adopted it so that one will need
some dusting off and um giving it a good
look that's one of the ones that we
haven't touched
since things that we do every year every
year we adop we figure out um from the
state they give us new population counts
uh we work with them on that and um so
every year the whole everything that has
to do with population gets rolled into
the new State numbers for us so every
year we do that same with the housing
units um if we have any new land if the
city owns any new land like um the new
Parkland that we've just received we
rezone it to make sure that it's taken
off the roles as residential let's say
um and we just get credit for it as
Parkland we do that whenever any year
that we have it and then growth Target
we do those whenever we get handed
growth targets um and hopefully we don't
have to do those for a while our growth
targets now were uh consistent up till
2031 so we hope uh and we just approved
those I think in 2009 so we're hoping we
don't have to do that for a while that's
that's a pretty uh exciting time when
you have to figure out where the next
the next Generation has to
go the things we've done recently that
will make this update not so hard for us
um I was mentioning this Central isqua
plan where we've accommodated our growth
targets that was just adopted last year
uh the Lakeside development agreement up
on the hill near isqua Highlands was
just adopted also 2013 the rowy
development agreement which is actually
within the central isqua plan was
adopted in 2011 that has some growth
attached to it we're working on a
development agreement with Costco uh
we're not quite done with that one yet
but that's going on that's also in the
um Urban core of the central plan
and we're in the midst of annexing the
uh Lakes mammer State Park we wouldn't
own it I just want to make that public
because that people get confused with
that but it'll be under our jurisdiction
for anything like permitting and um that
kind of thing right now it's it's in the
county so the county deals with all the
jurisdictional issues but we're in the
process of annexing the state park so
that's kind of
exciting so all these things um help us
in that they're already underway so we
don't have to worry about them in the
periodic update
we have nine elements uh as I we said
before some of them are um were extra
that we did just because they were
important to us we're starting this
group with land use because it's the
most important it's sort of the heart
and soul of the of the rest of the plan
everything has to tie back into the land
use element um some of them are
fascinating elements some of
them are not really my my favorite but
um they're all important in their own
way and and um um I think we're going to
have a lot of fun with all of
them um the our strategy for this and I
don't know Kristen whenever you want to
come up you're you're welcome to come up
and help but this is the city this is
our wonderful City and we've broken it
into I shouldn't say broken we have
divided it into um areas sub areas if
you will Central being right in the
middle um Central being as you mentioned
before um it's flat it's bikable it's
walkable a we're hoping someday to have
a beautiful green necklace of parks and
trails from Creek to Creek State Park to
Confluence Park and
um that's just going to be a marvelous
Jewel for us um and you'll probably
recognize some other areas um Tiger
Mountain and um Park Point Tiger
Mountain those are preserved areas um
the good news about this map is that um
as I said lakes and mamish state park
and Tiger Mountain already have planned
for them so we don't have to worry about
that in this update also the urban
Villages that we have Talis Highlands
and Lakeside already have development
agreements and their goals and policies
are already set out for their 20-year um
life so we don't have to worry about
that in our periodic
update um centralis squa has already
been done recently so we'll kind of be
tweaking things to fit in with that but
we don't have to worry about updating
that yet cuz we just adopted it and
Oldtown is a special one um really
special when we first adopted growth
management plan in '95 the council said
the first sub area we're doing is
Oldtown because it's it's the heart and
soul and we want to be sure before we
start planning any future that that gets
our special attention and we're hoping
to do that that same detailed Dive In
Focus a lot of public involvement next
year once we're done with the periodic
update that the state's
requiring um so we have that sort of on
the list that we're not going to get to
dive into Oldtown this year we're
certainly going to look at it for the
periodic update but we're not going to
get up to our ears in it like we want to
next year to give it all the love and
attention and really focus on it like we
did when we first did the sub area plan
so I wanted to mention that that um that
old Town's the next one up we hope for
for a big Focus next year in
2015 um
which leaves these areas would be the
pieces and parts that we'll have to pull
in for the periodic update these areas
haven't really been looked at in any big
detail um North isqua and Providence
Point Greenwood Point uh we annexed in
the recent history so that was the last
time we really focused on any of those
um so it really when you look at the
city and what we're actually working on
in the periodic update it's not quite so
overwhelming if you if you think of wow
if we had to do the whole city we really
don't have to do the whole city we just
have to make sure that the pieces and
parts are tied in so hopefully that
makes it look a little less
overwhelming I know it does for me yes
Chantel so uh you had the list of all
the different areas of the comp plan
have other Commissions in board working
on some areas concurrently working on
some of that or that's another slide you
are such an overachiever Shantel yes is
that the ne oh that was the next one you
were looking ahead um you all
are the guardians of the comprehensive
plan big responsibility but you are the
Guardians every other board and
commission feeds into you with their
recommendations on how they think things
should work for example the Arts
commission will tell you what they think
about the cultural plan the Human
Services Commission will tell you what
they think about the Human Services
element and the housing element the
Parks Board will come and tell you what
they think about the parks element um
they're all advisory boards and you're
an advisory board but you're the
guardian of the whole plan and so it's
really exciting you guys really have the
best seat in the house truly you do TR
and yes um I know that we're not talking
about Oldtown correct but the cultural
element that the Arts commission is
going to be talking about is going to
Encompass Oldtown yes does that pose a
problem or I I haven't seen what you
guys are thinking about yet but I don't
think it will I think what we're hoping
to do um we're going to update
everything this year but I'm but our
plan is and of course we haven't seen it
yet but our thought is that to really
dive into it next year and and you know
and and figure out the parking the
signage the design um you know all the
pieces that have kind of languished
while we were doing the central plan to
sort of update all the you know the
transportation circulation um the
historic pieces how to get the parks and
um you know the the in-depth because we
only have this this year to do all of
this whereas we could spend all year on
Oldtown and not be done yet I mean art
is not going to interfere with that I
just wanted to I don't think it will no
no I think it'll all be
good my fear is though that we'll want
to dive in and we'll have to be like oh
you know put that in a little note spot
to dive into you know next year because
I think that's going to be the the hard
part is to not dive
in are there any questions questions on
who all is working on which
pieces
okay do you want to go on this one or
should I keep going either
way you lucky
thing um okay you want to do it I'll be
right
here okay so we are diving head first
into comprehensive plan with the land
use element um it is the biggest piece
it contains eight of the GMA
requirements and it is the core it
determines land use patterns land use
types where things are going to go
traffic patterns because if you have
commercial here there's going to be more
traffic at this time of day that kind of
thing it's pretty big and land use
is the element it's it's a delicate
balance because we're on the edge of the
urban growth foundary so we have to do
what we can in our land use settlement
to help protect our natural environment
that both is adjacent to the city on the
other side of the urban growth boundary
and within the city and also accommodate
development in the way that best
protects those natural amenities so it's
it's a it's a big one
um so I mentioned in the handout that
the land use element has become quite
cumbersome because we haven't really
given it an overhaul in a long time we
keep adding very important pieces to it
like sustainability and climate and
trees and we add all these things and we
add all the information but all of a
sudden you can't find anything anymore
so we've decided to break it down to its
Bare Bones and kind of start over again
and look at the goals that's what we're
going to do tonight is look at the goals
and see what we have see what needs to
be added or deleted or changed and just
focus on those tonight but just for the
future so the elements we're going to
kind of do this with several of the
elements um we're going to start with an
introduction each element will have a
vision then list the GMA
requirements it'll be broken down by
topic or at least in land use we'll see
how it goes and the rest then we'll have
a goal followed by discussion policies
and then implementation at the very end
of
it so I'm going way back to the basics
but we're going to talk about what a
goal is since we're doing those tonight
so goals are our aim or desired result
it's the big picture it's not the vision
but it's a big picture under a
topic those are supported by policies
policies are principles that guide our
decisions and they guide our regulations
when we start developing
those those are followed by
implementation implementation imple
implementation which is carrying out the
plan actually doing what we say we're
going to
do we decided to come up with an example
so in real life your goal is to turn
your garden turn your yard into a garden
by Spring
2015 your policies strike a balance
between decorative and
strive to be organic and strive for
Native local plantings your
implementation identify and purchase low
maintenance decorative plantings
research purchase and use organic
fertilizers and Pest Control shop at
local farmers markets and a schedule of
time to plant after the frost is over
okay so you see how they kind of go from
the big picture to more specific to
actually doing the
policies so the GMA requirements that
are on here are prevent
sprawl encourage development in urban
areas encourage public involvement and
coordination promote
preservation designate General location
of land uses identify existing and
future
populations protect quality and quantity
of groundwater and review mitigate and
cleanse drainage flooding and storm
water
runoff sometimes I forget to ask if
there are questions and I just keep
going so if there's anything just pop
your hand throw your hand up
there so our vision right now as it
exists is just a list of goals and then
you have more goals later on and then
there are some more goals so what I've
done here is condense some of the goals
um to make a vision and while it's not
our goal tonight to rewrite the vision
um probably like some input on the
vision and see yeah probably like some
feedback on this and think about it you
know maybe it's something we come back
to later on after we've addressed the
element more but this is what we have
right now establish a pattern of
development that maintains and enhances
the quality of life within the community
and sets the framework for a sustainable
Community by addressing environmental
economic and social issues okay so keep
that in mind we'll come back to
it
so I think what we're going to try to do
tonight is go through the goals that are
in the plan now like I said I kind of
took out everything else that's there
and just focused on took out all the
policies and the implementation and all
the other discussion information that's
there and said let's just focus on the
goals and see if that's what we really
want okay I broke it down into
categories first one is natural
environment and
amenities the goal is to maintain and
enhance the natural environment and
amenities of the City and surrounding
areas
so this would be protect the environment
protect the fish protect the hillsides
keep the trees um no net loss of trees
um am I leaving anything out no
groundw so is there is that too
broad yes shant is amidi is a term
that's defined somewhere or is that
whatever our
imagination allows to be right now it's
whatever your imagination allows it to
be but if that's something that you
think needs to be more specific say you
know we really ought to start to
pinpoint some of those things that we
want to protect ien it sounds human made
as opposed to Natural to me but
I those are the enhancement but I so I
don't know if it fits under
environment
okay I would agree but it's also in the
title so if it's in the title so
change question that so is it our title
or their title pardon me is the title
ours to yes it is yours to change
yes so I look at amenities as being
people being able to use the
environment and that isn't consistent
with enhancing the natural environment I
mean there's two separate issues there h
okay unless you add another goal under
there that specifies what the amenities
are well now that kind of moves into the
next goal which I even looked at and
said what's the difference I had to
think about it for a long time so may we
if you look at that next goal and say we
really need to go back and add something
we can is are Are there
natural things you'd like to refer to
here or do you just want to say natural
environment
so well if we agree there are two
separate things we should separate them
into two separate goals
okay let me show you the well let me
show you the next goal that I was
thinking of Ensure land use development
protects and enhances isqua's natural
environment and Scenic
Beauty they're very
similar but this
one go three
but but goal three is the amenities okay
okay all right I'm going to
go if goal three is amenities amenities
or is that
participation in the
process it was intended to be it was
intended to be process using using the
environment it was intended to be
process resources to me implies
hospitalities there are there is
something along the line of resources in
a while
um I know they're the big resources
yeah but they're things like Mining and
Agriculture and that's what was referred
to in those resources so should we add
something here about amenities so forget
I said
anything okay so I just look at the
definition of amenity and it said
facilities Appliance um you know a whole
bunch of things resources and whatnot so
okay definitely more on the keep it from
being human made saying as opposed to
the
Natural
okay Trisha's right uh she just
mentioned we could put that in the
discussion as well clarifying what that
is okay so I'm not sure if we just
decided something what was what change
was being made it went back forth a
couple times I apologize so
what actually I should clar um maintain
and enhance the natural environment and
we can just leave it at that of the City
and surrounding areas and then in the
discussion discuss the hillsides The
Creeks the streams and what a what
amenities what natural features the city
is trying to protect so so then you take
it out of the
T yes we'll just take it out all
together and then use it in the
discussion ifes that work can you try
can you do things on on the screen I
can't I've got it here and I'll read it
back to you as we go
only well that's true we could do it
that
way are
U are Parks and Recreation included in
this because I think of amenities within
the city as places to go places to enjoy
the
environment is that part of this there
is a Parks and Recreation element I I
was thinking there might have been but
are you
how does this differ from that well if
you seant tall mentioned that amenity
seam man-made which would be Parks and
Recreation and that sort of things which
would be addressed in the Parks element
and that this is a more
natural Mother Nature Made
environment okay does that make
sense would there be a need for a more
clear definition of how this relates to
or is different than we can certainly
put that in the discussion so we would
separate the two we would have this one
being just the protection of the
environment and then talk separately
about the amenities the park structures
and correct parking and and we can refer
to that in the discussion and
say you know ameni such as parks and
trails and that's are discussed in the
Parks and Recreation element so you
would leave in of the city and and
surrounding areas you just take out the
word inanity yes okay I actually have a
question about the surrounding areas
what
is
that Encompass that's outside of the
city itself I'm not
sure if you look at the map behind you
yeah there are spaces between the clani
area so isqua FS City Road and isqua
Highlands that should be retained as
open space and then between esqua
Highlands and well tradition park or
lake
tradition in that area um that should
also be maintained so the and Tiger
Mountain Cougar Mountain those are all
adjacent natural areas that we still use
and need to aim to protect
so um this might not be the right
question for this but where does the
does this address the funding that's
used for that no it does not it would be
an implementation
yeah yeah
okay oops you ready I just accidentally
hit the button we ready all
right so ensure land use development
protects and enhances isqua's natural
environment and Scenic Beauty and this
refers to development itself and
development when it comes in
incorporating the natural environment
into it
so building Lookouts or building
you know
using a wetland as part of your you know
landscape or natural environment there
that you're required to have rather than
covering over the
Wetland
um but that's what that refers
to
okay moving on okay provide for active
public participation this can be moved
now that I look at it and you all
brought it up um but it is it's it's
involving the public and making sure
that we coordinate and involve the
public so this is really meaning public
participation not not public Recreation
it is and when I put this here I was
initially thinking in development
processes but you know it's protecting
the environment as well so it's it's
everything so we can shift that out if
you are we agreed yes
okay okay maintain and create a
diversity of high quality places to live
work shop and recreate
I'm good with that one does that fit in
the natural environment
too that's the build
environment it would be the built
environment it would
be connections to Trails maybe and Parks
so Trail heads Parks making sure that
there's parking available at Trail heads
um making sure that sidewalks are
right yeah this is
built so so looking at at
you know you went down go one two 3 4
and here we have kind of subcategories
went natural environment to
developmental
patterns and so that that's kind of a
separate category
so I mean that's why it's a separate
goal right it's kind of the hierarchy
from the natural and then make sure your
built environment includes the natural
and respects the natural and then it's
then when you're doing the development
make sure it's high quality and really
good and I'm being blink but it's kind
of we're kind of working through the
hierarchy of goal I mean all the goals
are important but you're right one
started with respect the environment and
then when you develop make sure the
development works with it and I'm just
saying that to clarify because it looks
like for some folks you're you're going
on the listen that you skip you from
natural to right into development and
and it but it is separated out I'm just
kind of stating that so it's clear
because you're because it's not it you
kind of change Topics in why we no no
longer in natural environment we are in
development patterns okay I missed
that Christen can you uh explain what
you mean by A diversity because it seems
to me it should be create main maintain
and create high quality places to live
shop work and recreate I'm not sure what
A diversity of means well A diversity of
places to live would be multif family
housing versus single family housing
condos apartments Cottages that kind of
thing um shopping you have lower scale
retail and then you have higher density
retail you have your Costco Warehouses
versus your mom and pop
Stores um same with shopping working
incubator businesses versus
microsofts and Rec Recreation Trails
sidewalks Parks um open space versus an
active playground kind of thing
okay
okay okay number
five allow for and accommodate growth in
a manner that is fiscally conservative
responsive to the community and
protective of the natural
environment looking at it now I think
two and five are similar
yeah um again just thinking out loud
fiscally conservative kind
of jumps out that not sure that how that
fits in there uh accommodate growth
responsive to community protect
environment fiscally conservative I'm
not sure what that means in that sense I
would suggest fiscally responsible
rather than fiscally conservative
because conservative has some political
connotations that that uh some people
might object to
okay I'm
still um chewing on that part too
I it seems the the fiscally responsible
which I definitely like better um is uh
not sure it fits into the development
patterns so fiscal alog together should
come out you don't think into the
development p f somewhere in the come
plan but I'm not sure if it fits here
not in this space right well part of
growth management Act is to pay is that
new growth pays for itself either
through impact fees or or mitigation or
other things and so that's in there to
show that the city needs to pay for part
of the community but the growth needs to
pay for itself as well you know there
needs to be a balance so it's not just
the community that's paying for the new
growth so section that another section
for that if this is the only place to
have it that's fine but we could make
one like like I said this is Bare Bones
so if in the land use element we want to
have another section that is um what's
the word uh fin financing or
implementation or something like that
then you could move that into that
section and
say accommodate growth in a way that's
fiscally responsible and then you come
up with implementations implementation
plans or say through you know impact
fees and that sort of thing so there are
there are it can be moved yeah EXC I was
going to suggest scratching fiscally
conservative putting fiscally
responsible something along that line
you said scratching fiscally and just
leaving responsible well conservative
put responsible somehow whatever the
semantics there
okay you make sure your microphones on
when you're talking please I was just
speaking too low I guess
so I I kind of like the idea of looking
at that maybe as as a separate thing
then fitting in there and where it can
be dealt with explained a little more I
mean just a simple thing of you know you
know permit fees and those kinds of
stuff that you're you're talking about
can be I think they're kind of separate
from this goal and we could be dealt
better okay and in a different one is
there some yes John I don't like the N
the words physically
conservative I think it should be
different than physically conservative
do you like fiscally
responsible that would be better than
conservative but putting it in another
area would be better okay well how about
and this is going to come back this
isn't your last time to see it so how
about if right now we move fiscally
responsible delete conservative move
fiscally responsible out of here and
create a new section that is geared more
towards the technical end of things
Financial end a new even a new topic so
we have natural environment we have
development patterns and then we could
have another one that is with the goal
but implementation or financial
considerations or something does that
work I think so that could be a really
big
topic
okay continuing with development
patterns it's a big one
require multimodal
Transportation I'm going to read the
whole thing require multimodal
Transportation as a key to a successful
land use pattern which concentrates
development emphasizes pedestrian
orientation supports transit services
reduces the consumption of fuel and land
and reduces emissions which contribute
to climate
change I'm seeing head shakes
so a lot of this is GMA required doesn't
have to be all in this section this is
the way it is now the point is to
revisit it so you can break it up you
can just talk about it I just think it
it has a uh missing one word okay wow
and that's
cars they part of emissions well I
understand it's part of admissions but
it's you know develop when you develop
something and you're developing
pedestrian uh walkways and transit
services you're not doing anything to um
look into what you do with cars cars are
still going to be there so it to me it
just says we're going to eliminate cars
and we're going to walk and ride the
bike well and to add to that it
doesn't mention bikes specifically and I
know that
the
overall uh bike um
Community is
very
uh assertive in being included in um
city and county plans as a current staff
person working on the pet and bike well
there's bike Mobility action plan right
now yes I can I would agree oh okay so I
just I didn't even read farther sorry
but um yeah okay I think that can
sometimes get heated
yeah I'm kind of on the same same page
with the car thing in a sense because it
almost reads to me like get rid of
automobiles okay I mean I know that's
not the intention yeah yeah yeah I think
that's it's almost if you want to put it
down to to a basic Force everybody to
walk doesn't
multimodal yeah yeah include everything
we just discussed
it the word the word implies everything
that was discussed yes cars so cars are
there I think that is's no question that
they'll be there even if you emphasize
other areas of it but um I would ask I
would add the word linked to that linked
or connected okay I think it's a good
how so with by the way how so linked or
connect linked where linked or connected
um
connected uh
well an multimodal a connected multimod
that's a lot of
work so is there going to be stuff in on
you're going to yes there will be
discussion below the goals okay so and
policies why wouldn't the the goal be
just the first part require multimodal
Transportation the key to successful
land use pattern and then put the rest
of it
underneath
okay what do you all think of that
goals are usually short and sweet and
that these are all encompassing yeah
that's all in there I you know I I I
would suggest doing the doing require
multimodal a connected multimodal
Transportation Network something like
that and then have a goal for pedestrian
and or nonmotorized right orientation
um and
transits okay I would almost real
policies I would I would almost transit
to me is really part of multimodal but I
would definitely emphasize because
that's part of the urban Villages that's
part of the central e equal plan The
Pedestrian and bicycle orientation as a
separate goal okay so right now I have
require a connected multimodal
Transportation Network as a key to a
successful NES pattern period and the
rest of that moves into
policies I wouldn't even use pattern I
just say successful land use period okay
to successful land
use could could you read that one more
time please require a connected
multimodal Transportation Network as a
key to successful land use so the only
word that strikes me is uh unique here
in the goal is require there's no other
goal that starts out with the word
require everything else is enhanced
ensure very soft thing and all a sudden
this comes down to require and Implement
so I I think that's just out of balance
with the other with the other ones
somehow or other not that you know I
don't want that but
emphasize something should be consistent
there courage un it's already a policy
how about
devel how about develop how about
develop develop okay develop would be
develop encourage all
right so not so strong a word develop en
courage
support a connected multimodal
Transportation network is a key to
successful land
use all the other ones are policy
underneath is it beautiful Beau
beautiful all right what we're looking
for I'm not sure Inc courage is strong
enough no I I like the de develop
develop yeah okay that's very
suggested all
right so when we come back next time
those other pieces will be included as
policies below that yeah okay I I would
like to have a separate goal that says
emphasize pedestrian and bike a separate
goal that says that okay what have goal
six b or seven 37 that says emphasize
pedestrian bike orientation because
that's what's in our Central is aqu plan
isn't that part of multi modal though
shouldn't it just be one of the should
it be one of the policies underneath
that this goal six otherwise every goal
everything's going to have a
goal instead of a
policy I would like it to be a goal not
more than that translate into a
policy I'm looking for
something are we talking about goal
seven or goal six I'm goal
six go oh
okay I I think it's covered in Moto
I question yes what um in the
overall scope of
things does the outline of the goals and
our implementation plans for them affect
the city's ability to apply for or
qualify for Grants or um yes okay so
that was the end of my question okay
right now and I I was what came to mind
when you were doing that we there is a
transportation element and we have just
almost completed an Mo a Mobility action
plan for Peds and bikes and all of the
request all of the recommended policies
that are in that plan will be
incorporated into the transportation
element as well so a lot of the PED bike
stuff will be mention mentioned in the
transportation
element okay so which leads me to do you
still want that to be a separate goal or
is that something that could remain a
policy if it's going to be out outlined
in a separate in a different place yes
I'm fine with with a policy okay well
with the goal as it is okay oh with the
goal as it is okay all
right okay
seven yes you read that it reads more
like a statement yeah it doesn't
statement like a goal it's seven a goal
okay you know and I don't know will
improve transation will
improve that's like stating something
versus or just start with improve change
will to should and you've got your goal
or you or you could just okay you could
just start with
improve
yeah yeah
so if we do that
policies state that again please I
almost think all of that should be
policy under six
but policy under where six under goal
six it all deals with Transportation oh
okay yeah make it part of six versus
having its own so Seven's not a goal is
that what we're saying no see the city
got off no no because I I think you're
talking different that's why I want to
say what you got on seven because you're
talking multimodal Transportation then
you're talking Transportation
enhancements so they are different
because you're looking more at you know
capital investment you know Road
redesign you know adding you know bike
paths Etc so I think it's different I
just you made a change to it but I don't
know what you said for goal s um okay
here's another option I'm just going to
read it out loud how about use transport
employ use transportation enhancements
to improve the city's traffic congestion
and maximize local opportunities to use
convenient Transit bicycle shuttle
trolley and pedestrian facilities
improved linkages to these facilities
will provide access to Transportation
Alternatives wow that'll work
fine okay Joan saw shaking oh I I just
look at a goal as being short one short
idea in all the policies to go into
under it I think that makes it more
complicated um would you all be okay if
I tried to just condense that a
bit or use or use it as goal seven do
exactly what you did with Goal six and
put all those other things underneath as
a as policy I don't
know each policy could be you could just
have a simple statement and one policy
could be uh improved C
City's traffic congestion second policy
maximize opportunities for Transit
trolley Etc improve third policy and
improve linkage to these
facilities I'm just you just outlined
the transportation element pretty
much that you're good so if you want to
think about it so this is in development
patterns what matters here is that we
have Transit oriented B iCal pedestrian
friendly
development that it's all
linked the yeah that's really the two
things everything else is
about having those there and having it
linked so maybe we can try to reward
both of those to just have a goal that
just says that
okay so one goal that says that oh you
can make it the having it having the
development that supports intermodel and
having it linked as a as a second
goal and maybe the third one could
be
uh make sure that all Transportation
enhancements meet that but that
definitely belongs in transportation
Mobility not Transportation I would hope
we're going to look at this again we are
PA so we are let's put what we think is
here then when we look at transportation
we can either put in take out change and
I think do you know is transportation
come before this comes before
Transportation comes before this so
Transportation when we look at the
transportation element that comes back
in July I believe that comes to you all
for the first time so you can look at
that and then you'll see the land you
sell them in again and you can say you
know what after looking at
Transportation maybe we need to take
this out or adjust Ed or something like
that or maybe when you get six put
together it just works that seven will
be part of policies and it will be okay
I mean okay it's kind of hard to look at
that now and not see the transportation
and what exactly is going to go into it
so you have this tendency to want put
more in that is really necessary than
when you see the transportation element
it's true can we also refer to Mobility
as opposed to
Transportation Mobility as opposed to
transportation
sure so it's more all in are you when
you think Transportation are you
thinking Automotive as opposed to that's
something that's carrying that's
transporting something as opposed to the
ability to move from point A to point B
okay so Mobility enhancements rather
than
Transportation the person doesn't
transport anything usually but yet they
move
okay okay so I'm going to we talked
about number six I'm going to Short it
rework it into the other half into
policies goal number seven I'm kind of
going to leave as is except for the very
small changes we've made for now until
we see the transportation element am I
right yes yeah
okay oh
yeah okay these two are not in your
packet these two are required they're
new and required by GMA this year and we
don't have any polic well that's not
true we have some policies to support
them but I just wanted to run them by
you we need to flush them out a bit more
but one is to ensure development through
plans policies and regulations that
provide physical social and mental
well-being so that all people can live
healthier and more active lives this has
to do with healthy communities and the
initiative by the
state what does that mean it means make
sidewalks so people sidewalks sidewalks
available bike Lanes it's a lot of it's
non-motorized some of it has to do with
just promoting physical activity with
through soccer fields or programs that
you have in your city some of it has to
do with eating healthy foods so
providing Community Gardens um for
people or making information available
and about nutrition it's pretty it's
pretty broad so that's why it needs to
be fleshed out but I wanted to let you
guys know that when I come back next
time it's there will be more information
in there about this but it's coming okay
okay
all right the next one is Central
isqua the one of our goals was to get
that designated as a regional growth
Center and we have taken step one which
is we nominated it as an urban center
the growth management planning Council
recommended approval of that King County
approved it it's being ratified by the
cities right now so by the end of the
summer it should be an urban center
which means that that's going to happen
before our plan is done so we're going
to have to include some more policies
about being an urban center and what
that means so for right now I have in
there as a placeholder focus and promote
office housing and Retail development in
the central isqua urban center
okay moving on to a different category
resource
lands maintain opportunities for
Agricultural and resource land uses or
acttiv there's a comment in the wrong
place
land uses or activities encourage
combatible compatible uses adjacent to
Resource lands which support the use of
the resource and minimize conflicts
among
uses
okay you need do you need do so this the
state requires and you may have to um
beef this up a bit but the state
requires that we identify agricultural
lands and we do what we can to preserve
those um go ahead the other thing um the
mining areas that we have those are
protected by the state the their
resource lands the agricultur lands res
U mining lands and I think um like
different kinds of fish habitat that are
resources of the state they wanted to be
sure that As Cities grew that they
didn't grow right over the state
resources um of um so that we had to
have our own a special mining Zone to
protect the mining area up there and
when we when Lakeside went to redevelop
it or have plans to redevelop it we had
to be really careful how we did that
because the state considers those to be
protected uses um and so this is a GMA
requirement um that we you know continue
to keep in the plan so that we're
consistent with it so doesn't King
County have a Nonet loss policy on uh
they might they might be Reed
agricultural area shouldn't we consider
I don't know how much agricultural area
we have left but shouldn't trying to
protect what we have yeah we don't have
anything zoned that way I know we still
we we allow Hobby Farms and that kind of
thing but we don't actually have um
production Farms per se we're really
good about um you know pea patches
Community Gardens we're opening up we're
trying to allow because we're so close
to the rural line we know that there's
still a lot of rural uses right outside
our boundary that we want to be sure are
um are kept alive and kept feasible and
and um and of course our Farmers Market
we're bringing all that agricultural in
so our community can access it as well
so we're there's probably other ways
that we can um discuss and have policies
for this to make sure that we continue
on with
that we are two-thirds of the way
through the goals all
right changing topics again Regional
coordination and annexation
goal 11 work with local and Regional
agencies
too that just needs to be filled out it
wasn't yeah that kind of looks like an
incomplete
statement that's a goal right no I can't
remember what happened but I think I was
struggling with it a bit going through
the policies and it already listed
things it just wasn't coming together
but that needs to be there to work with
local and Regional agencies
you that's a defined term yada yada yada
it is won work well together um so
that'll be beefed up uh 12 Annex areas
within the city's Urban growth area to
ensure compatibility with City standards
and development regulations while
providing for provision of the city's
level of service for public services
public facilities and concurrent
Transportation facilities so don't Annex
unless you have the facilities and the
services to actually do it how many are
if you can't provide that would work out
great don't Annex until you have the
services there's your goal you like that
that's very in my opinion sweet and
simple but that's not what it says
though it says it's almost a it's a
requirement to Annex the way I read this
yeah that's what I read right it says
you're going to Annex areas and then you
Ure we have you're supposed to Annex you
have identified potential annexation
areas that you are supposed to Annex
within a 20-year period right that was
part of GMA that everything in the urban
line would be taken care of by an urban
city and the rest would be the county
and they would take care of that how
many Annex areas do we have remaining
other than our two if if the state park
goes through
two East East cger Mountain and the King
County Island which is right near the
isqua shop the 990 or
yeah so I I can shorten it and still get
what's required in there yeah yeah is
good but it it is very complicated to
read
okay and if if we're redoing the whole
thing M and if there's only
two maybe you should just
identify we probably would in the
discussion yes and the
polic the policies which I didn't bring
tonight just because okay this is a lot
to start with as a newbie okay just
yeah um Foster cooperation with all
affected
parties is that not a policy the Foster
cooperation see that'd be a policy under
annexation okay yeah I I don't see that
as a separate
goal we
go
sustainability when did when was this
added two years ago 2009 maybe okay this
is relatively new the sustainability
section um incorporate sustainable
Community Development as an integral
part of all city and Community functions
to ensure isqua ability to meet future
needs sustainable means to it lasts
forever what it is
defined you do it right over
there because we had that same
discussion and sustainable and land use
is
so may have of theability
indicators that we did couple years back
is that ring a bell where we me the
website said things that matter
measuring things that matter and uh
there was maybe 13 um but we're hoping
to put those uh indicators in the comp
plan so that they're part of the
overarching land use Vision so what are
we looking at sustainability we just
looked this up this week sustainable
development in there okay am I in the
bleeper um sustainable development is
development that meets the needs of the
present without compromising the ability
of future generations to meet their own
needs by considering current and
potential economic environmental and
social issues so so again it's the three
parts of the sustainability um stool if
you will economic environmental and
social
sustainability and we will be going
through definitions later on in the year
if people want to update that at all
that's totally
okay so the questions that come up with
me on this one is when you throw the
word community in there so we're talking
about difference of Community
Development versus development in
general and Community functions so again
I get a little confused on function
and and so is a community function
salmon days or is it you know Power and
Water um and and so how that in the
community uh they say Community
Development are we still talking about
development of you know of a private
developer are we talking about you know
City facilities and you know so I think
you got my point
and honestly I think that's going to
require some more clarification on our
part as well so we'll go back and talk
to the folks who helped us with
this clarify but yeah very good points
I'm you know I I can't say that I don't
like it because sustainability is my
thing but to me it's just so vague that
if we really understood what we meant
there you know it's the old comp plan
plus a lot of other things that should
be this should be the heading on top of
everything else and then we develop the
the economic the social and the
environmental element of it and then we
link it all together so that it's it all
match so I guess it's fine it's just do
you think we should match put the three
pieces in the goal I you know I I would
like to see that because that's why I
was kind of doubtful until you read the
definition because most people equate
sustain sustainable with environmental
which is just one of the one of the
elements of it
okay any other thoughts on this one so
we'll we'll clarify development and
functions be more specific and get
clarity on that little vague so we'll
try to uh we'll put in the three
pieces um economic social and
environmental and try and focus it a bit
more is that good we
good you guys ready for the last
one okay climate control climate
control actively address climate change
by requiring reductions in greenhouse
gas and carbon
dioxide whoops and carbon dioxide
equivalent emissions in all land uses
and providing incentives for Innovative
climate Solutions which Advance the city
towards a Caron neut neutral Community
as keys to sustainable Community
Development say it three
times what I
thinking as the transportation one so
Trish just mentioned possibly doing the
same thing we did to one about
multimodal and ending at land use land
use period and then moving some of this
into policies yes thoughts on that yes
yeah lots of yeses
where perhaps actively address climate
change period I would think that's it
all the other
on even that's kind of
problem I think that that almost swings
the other
way
yeah okay so actually then the second
half of this would be the
yeah
okay
encourage encourage Innovative climate
Solutions which Advance the city towards
a carbon neutral Community as Keys
period period that's good
okay
okay and then what's above would if it
can't be be addressed in policies yeah
okay
okay more goals next steps are there any
that missed yeah and actually let me
yeah let me go back is there are there
any gaping holes in this that you all
see as far as topics go
goals can you go back to go 14 yes
that's too complicated never mind okay
and what we have for it right now is to
actually clarify development and
functions and what those mean and then
to make it more specific well I I know
make it more specific but I always like
that small kind of whatever and then all
the policies underneath and some of
those all of those different areas would
go into policies one by one underneath
the okay I'll try and shorten a bit too
but NE and next time I come back I keep
saying I when we come
back um policies will be with it so that
will help to focus it a bit as well okay
okay but I will try and shorten it just
a bit I'm all for that oh but I know we
talked about all the different things
that go into
sustainable uh but all of those can be
underneath as policies incorporating
into a
big
okay goal okay
so I we have a do we have a category
that
covers raran areas and things like
thatal environment the first one is that
the first one that's first so that's I
mean in the old comp plan that's the
only one the area where fish protection
raran
areas and the shoreline management plan
is considered an element of the
comprehensive plan and that was just
updated in 2013 so it's covered there
mhm as
well okay any other thoughts
okay next step no not yet next steps so
we'll make the changes that we talked
about
tonight um we will add the policies to
support the goals so that next time it's
a little bit easier for you all to
relate to okay here's the policy here's
what it's really talking about here's
what we're going to do um and ensure
consistency with State Regional and
County requirements to make sure that
we're not going to get trouble anywhere
there review these with other
departments as well so the
sustainability section talk to them
about that for a while and
transportation maybe talk to them about
that for a while and then we will come
back September 11th is the date that we
have right now but land use is kind of a
big one so we're hoping maybe a little
bit sooner than that um especially you
know so that you all don't forget where
we were and and we don't have to retrace
all of our steps so uh that's where we
are for now any questions about process
well only that you have already that you
have in June a second review right I
don't think so I hope this June second
June 12th land use element second
review there you go we looked at it many
times today and didn't see it we said
really September 11th the first time we
kep on to the second P gone wow what
happened to the summer so we'll be back
on June 12th we'll be back with the
goals revised goals and the policies
with it how about that okay I won't be
here yeah you went from four months to
one
month might want you might want to look
at maybe giving yourself some more time
because it's the largest one so maybe
move it into July or something we'll
look at it we'll come back soon yeah
because our goal was not to have you all
have extra meetings yeah because we know
that can be a drag in the summer even
though it's fun it's really fun oh yeah
but you know summer is kind of okay good
thought and one more do you have any
questions about this one more thing I
wanted to show you all I was going to
show them like the real is that a scary
thing ah slideshow
um if any of you were
curious um I have it in my little binder
that I walk around with because I think
of it as you know my my mine my comp
plan um if any of you are interested or
maybe you've already checked it out um
this isn't on the homepage on what our
comp plan that isqua comp plan looks
like um you can find it on our website
if I can oh there it is what a great
website um it's
under um document Center I blinking and
blinking it's under your government
document Center and then as you come
down is it showing there I was going to
say is it just up here um
development um the central isqua plan is
here but I'm going to close that real
quick um the comprehensive plan is here
and as you see Oldtown has its very own
sub area plan but what you want to look
at what we're updating now is volume one
and volume one is the uh growth
management Act required elements and
they're all here um from the intro all
the way to Human Services and when uh
the the year is the last time probably
that they were amended and uploaded so
for example the land use that we just
looked
at is a lot longer than what we've gone
through but we didn't want to overwhelm
you with all the pieces and parts that
are existing in the land you element as
Kristen said in the introduction when we
did climate change we we put it in there
when we did sustainability we put it in
there when we did the tree canopy we put
it in there and now it's all in there
but it's really hard to find sometimes
we know it's in there but you know it's
like or oregano it's in there but we
just we don't always know exactly the
logical place where it is so if you you
know have some time in the next couple
of weeks or months you might want to
peruse um because a lot of the
discussion that's in the beginning we're
actually going to take the discussion
let's say of the tree canopy and put
that into the natural environment piece
instead of having it just be out there
as a discussion we want to actually link
it with one of the goals because a lot
of people say well you talk about the
tree canopy but what does that mean
you're not telling us to preserve or
protect or make it healthier you're just
sort of talking about it and so we're
going to we're going to really tighten
it up a lot in this go around so I
wanted to share that with you um the
next any questions about that about how
to find the comp plan online okay the
next piece in two weeks we're going to
meet again and when Kathy sends you out
the and and I'm I'll make sure she sends
it out in PDF too when she sends that
out it's really important for you to
help us by rsvping if you're going to be
there or not because um it's going to be
a public hearing so we're going to need
enough voters um to get through the
meeting and so it's just really
important for us to know so we can plan
ahead and if we have to you know we hate
to start calling people and being
annoying so if you're able to RSVP to
Kathy as soon as possible that is so
super wonderful and again if you want a
paper copy if you know already you're
always going to want a paper copy let me
know or let Kathy know and we'll always
send you one but if not if you can do it
online that's super great too you know
no problem either way um just let us
know because we want to help you to help
us be successful we want to just be a
super partner um next meeting is the
22nd um part of it will be utilities and
services element which is a really
exciting one I think water sewers storm
wow just doesn't get any better than
that and a public hearing which will be
exciting for people that haven't been
through one and it's a comprehensive
plan Amendment and it's about the Kahani
potential annexation area which I know
is very near and dear to some of your
hearts and we have an interlocal
agreement with samamish that we're um um
transferring it out of isaa paa after
many many many many many times of trying
to Annex them into our sweet City
um heavy sigh I had to take a moment
there um it's an interesting public
Hearing in that the council has already
got an interlocal agreement with
samamish I've been here 20 some years
and I think this is only the second time
that the council has asked us to do
something that they've already kind of
figured out where they want to go I hate
that to be your first one I hate that
but of course it's not up to me but I
just want you to know it's not usually
you're not usually a rubber stamp you're
not because I wouldn't we wouldn't stand
for that what's the goal of that meeting
the pro the process has to um to move it
out of the comprehensive plan it has to
go through the the actual process of a
public hearing a staff report the
findings of fact public comment even
though the council has said this is what
the end goal is we still have to go
through the process just because you
know we're America and you have to
follow the public process the public can
come in and say you guys screwed up they
can come and say anything they want in
fact you know you guys can say no we
don't think we you can recommend no you
don't think it's a good idea that's
perfectly okay that's perfectly within
your purview I would think that was
amazing if you did that because most all
the time Council goes with what planning
policy commission says which is really a
a good uh um a good relationship that
you all have with Council um sometimes
they they don't go with your recommend
but um it's rare it's very rare which I
if you're interested we earlier
mentioned that the city has are going
through the process to make it an urban
center
yes and the planning policy commission
recommended that we not do that right
twice and you did twice we did that and
basically what the city and we it long
complicated I won't try to get into the
details but uh the reason is in my
opinion the city decided to do it
because it's a way to get
money do
you I can what an urban center is okay
an urban center 101 um there's a um part
of the central area in fact do you all
remember where the central area is it's
the the flat area both sides of the city
limits and there's a part of the central
area that we call the urban core it has
it allows the highest buildings and the
most density and um a mix of uses
residential and Commercial and when we
were looking at the growth targets that
we knew we had to take we didn't want to
put them in any of the residential areas
that are existing and so we looked long
and hard which is why it took us so long
to get through the plan where do we put
the next 20,000 jobs and 7,000 housing
units that many housing units a lot a
lot um how do we accommodate those from
now until 2031 without um uh harming the
existing communities that we have and so
we looked at Central isqua we looked at
all the parking lots we looked at no
residential and thought this would be a
really cool mixed juice Urban really
Nifty place if we do it right and so
that's where the standards came in and
correct we we looked at how many units
we could put there and if we just did
the growth targets it was would be fine
it would be lovely but it wouldn't have
gotten us any other benefits as far as
getting funds or getting grants or even
being eligible for any of that and so we
thought if we were to accommodate if we
were to fiddle with the zoning and the
ifin structure and take just a little
bit
more Not only would we be that would
look pretty much the same the same
height the same density but we would
also be in this new category of urban
center in one definition and regional
growth Center in another definition
they're kind of the same and we would be
eligible all of a sudden for another
funding stream to help us with the roads
to help us with the overcrossing to help
us with the green necklace of parks and
infrastructure pieces that we need
because growth can't play for all of it
the city has to pay for part of it and
so we went into it thinking that well we
know we're going to have to do growth
Targets in another certain amount of
years why don't we already provide for
that in our Center so that next time
when we have to do growth targets we
don't have to start looking around at
those neighborhoods going wow the next
set of growth Target where are we going
to put them we already have a place and
so that was the thinking of the
community is we we'll just add a little
bit more than the targets and have it
all be in this flat area where we can
bike and Transit and walk and mix of
uses and get rid of maybe some of the
parking lots that are there and build on
those to to make a really neat viable um
area and the planning policy commission
thought it was too much and too high and
too dense and and that's a perfectly
good way to think about it and Council
looked at in fact Council met with you
all twice um just to be sure they
understood exactly where you all were
coming from and they were real
deliberate and pondering it uh took them
a long time and they it wasn't a 70 vote
either besides the exra funding you
needed that density in order to get mass
transportation out here and so the
thought was in in 2031 we would have the
connecting rail to to support that but
you needed the people in a certain area
around that connection so you had two
reasons for for it but and on that note
that's um another one of our very
favorite things to show people on the
website if it'll let me is it g to let
me come on you is the central
plan you're not going to okay we're
going to back up this is the screen with
documents again and if you go back under
development and you go to Central plan
there's a lot of of the information that
we did and the um the standards are
under development and design there the
development standards and the design
standards but the actual plan is way
down here at the
bottom and it's um short it's a lot
shorter than this which is our goal is
to make this compain with all the
elements look a lot more like the
central plan it's got more pictures it's
got more visuals it's got more um it's
more user friendly but um just for an
example um there's the map of it but it
talks about um all the good people we
work with the part that I really love is
each of the areas in the central plan I
guess I could use the arrows but that
wouldn't be as fun right is it talks
about the different districts but it
talks about the vision for each district
what's the Western Gateway going to look
like what do we think about that when
you first drive into town from from the
West the hila the hila area and we've
got we try to to mix pictures and words
and vision statements so that people
could kind of imagine what it was going
to look like in the 20 30e plan um and
so I think we just did a the community
did a super job on this if you're really
excited about the central plan the other
thing we did for Council because they
wanted to visualize what's it going to
look like when the tall buildings start
popping up in the next 10 to 15 years is
on that same page there's a
visualization visualization video that
you can play and you can kind of control
you know where the bike path's going to
go and all of a sudden you'll see them
going and you'll see the buildings pop
up and it helps you kind of get one of
those Google Earth views of what the
growth might look like might look like
we can't guarantee exactly how they'll
build but that's another tool that we
use to help people visualize 30 years
any other thoughts or questions or
anything about what's going to happen in
the ne um in May 22nd yeah on your list
here you also list that there's going to
be a capital facilities element review
first review right and that right with
utilities Jason's going to do those too
those two and a public hearing right and
those two are going to because they're
not the huge land use they're a lot
smaller and concise and that's why we
thought we could do both of those
together we will do the public hearing
first hearing first right and just as
far as you know is anybody not going to
be here for the public hearing just
offand that you know your
schedules okay we'll do the official
RSVP thing too but just it's just always
good to kind of know as we go into it
how many people are going to be here
well thanks very much you all have been
awesome tonight for the first meeting of
the big update we're not done we have
election you have elections do you want
to talk about how that should go I
forgot about elections
every year at this time we elect a chair
and a vice chair and often the election
may
seem not to be a kind of a normal
election because sometimes it's who
would like to do it and in previous
years it seems that Joan and Carl just
keep flipping back and forth on who
wants to do it which has been
great and so agreed just to stay where
we
were or you could switch or you could
anybody else could decide they'd want to
be chairman and I would go out the door
right now if you got that thought in
your mind no I like your version of an
Ila between the two of
you what does that mean I make a motion
to your local agreement nominate Carl as
chair
and you make a motion are there other
motions or or other nominations I would
propose instead that Joan be the
chair okay so there's a proposal for
Joan to be the chair and for Carl to be
the chair and anyone else propose or
nominate anyone to be the
chair I nominate
joh
okay so do we vote on so there's just
the two nominations s places if that'll
make it
easy visualization
Carl and I have been here for so long
and we kind of know the history of of
everything so I don't think it really
makes any difference which one is is
chair because you know when I'm not here
Carl's going to be you know so it's kind
of like maybe a dual chair or something
you know CU it's I think Joel should
have her
turn okay should we actually have a vote
though absolutely we have to have a vote
just making sure is is there more
discussion any more
discussion just to be picky I think we
have to vote on one position at a time
so we should do that right and do the
chair first and then a vice chair
otherwise right now it's it's I'm glad
Bill's keeping us in order this is going
to be good you can do it all one time if
you have a platform or you have a or a
cartel oh that means I have to come up
with uh speech speech and I'm do that
I've done that don't want to do that
sounds good there's a slate that's the
word
look
vote before we call for the vote any any
discussion any
discussion no discussion then we've got
a motion is there a second second second
that we we have a vote for Jon's
chairman and me as Vice
chair all in
favor
any good job guys there now we're done
now we can adjourn
right is there any other business for
the good of the order anything
else we'll see everybody on the
22nd and if anybody has comments about
the legal training that you went through
we're looking for feedback you know was
it too detailed was it
too you know any comments that you have
if you could email them to me or just
let me know um the uh presenter is
looking for comments and on how we can
make it better for the next group for
next year very
good excellent you guys are all done
thank you thank
you
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