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Wednesday, December 13, 2023

6:30 PM · 2h 15m
Topics tracked across meetings:
2025 Board Report & Self-Analysis (D, A) 1/5
Natural Environment Checklist Annual Update (D) AB 8703 5/6
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of November 8, 2023
packet pp.3–5
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 11-08-23 Environmental Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. November 8, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Natural Environment Checklist
Discussion · [45 mins] Christian Geitz, Planning Manager · packet pp.7–27
Staff report:
can lead to improved application materials that are responsive to the development standards and specific natural 1
4b
Annual Report and Self Analysis
Action · [60 mins] Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.29–73
Staff report:
B. 2024 Initial Draft Environmental Board Workplan (reference for future priorities
5. REPORTS
5a
Pioneer Program Update
packet pp.75
Staff report:
Economic Development 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
5b
Sewer Master Plan Update
packet pp.77–89
Topics: Water
Staff report:
Meeting Date November 14, 2023
5c
Troll Critical Areas Report
packet pp.91–119
Topics: Critical Areas
Staff report:
This report has been prepared to present the findings of a wetland delineation study located along the Rainier Trail, in the vicinity of the Jakob Two Trees public art installation in the City of Issaquah. In addition to the information and findings presented in this report, the following documents are enclosed:
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0:14 yeah more risky fishing so
0:19 so another
0:24 woman by the same
0:27 ship that was the ship
0:39 and they started to fish so he said come
0:43 let's go down on the factory and start
0:45 samp okay might as well
0:49 and she had
0:58 been
2:49 I already got to hear
2:58 it of The Fishery uh folks were were
3:02 also Gathering up some stories that
3:12 so stor that's Fant do you publish them
3:16 or are they just essentially for
3:28 yourself
9:34 Afghanistan hi
9:36 Nancy
9:38 and didn't like
9:42 mut and uh there were a lot of people at
9:45 the
9:46 border and uh we could see that they
9:49 were leaving
9:51 Pakistan out but can you hear me now
9:55 they were saying that they leaving India
9:59 hearing Janet's amazing stories of her
10:02 World Travel that wasn't right saw it
10:05 you know and
10:12 uh I joined
10:20 the in Deli and
10:23 everything they
10:27 wereing the war
10:34 India Bangladesh
10:41 was when you tried to get there the
10:44 intention we going to
10:46 go a bus across the border into into uh
10:53 Nepal but the because of the
10:58 monsoons rains and it must have been
11:00 really bad and the there was just a big
11:03 swamp and there were just all these
11:05 trucks was sides of this so we had to
11:09 end up flying
11:14 from India to
11:17 Nepal and the war broke out SM we got
11:22 toal so and what you
11:27 do they didn't they got most of their
11:31 fuel from India so they didn't have much
11:36 way you know
11:38 Transportation available where they got
11:42 there so we kind of walked around to the
11:46 different embassies just to find out
11:48 what the news
11:49 was got invited to a
11:55 wedding
11:57 finally
12:07 over back to a couple of a number of
12:11 went back
12:17 India to Sri
12:21 Lanka
12:23 country and the brand that I was with
12:26 was going on to
12:29 to Australia to be a
12:32 teacher and I flew to Singapore and then
12:36 took the train
12:49 Bok went to the uh I was supposed to I
12:52 was book to have a they had to change
12:54 the
12:56 Freer was going to take a freeder back
12:59 the west
13:01 coast and
13:07 U when I got that they said oh well it's
13:10 it's been delayed so it'll be another
13:12 two weeks oh great I got two
13:16 weeks going went up north and boy there
13:19 all these Army said oh my goodness am I
13:22 going into a war
13:27 zone Army
13:30 yeah there I am
13:33 good an extraordinary amount of
13:36 travel um get we are taking action on
13:42 this I so my plan was to present the
13:47 report and then through the self an this
13:50 result and then vote at the very
13:54 end
13:56 results yeah that makes sense that's
13:59 okay even though it's kind
14:21 okay yeah sounds
14:26 good and's see
14:39 some St good pum we can put it back here
14:43 thank you one of the
14:57 pumpk
15:06 thought looks like you guys are making
15:08 good progress on the high school zone
15:10 there and I ran by there really week
15:13 yeah I keep on seeing that spot getting
15:16 wider and wider where there's not
15:20 black we've been working on black that's
15:22 what I've been
15:24 looking local park and property yeah
15:29 they uh keep going
15:33 like like to eat this time of year it's
15:36 better It's Hard Summer it's never
15:39 yeah yeah know that was I'm glad you
15:42 took that that was a spot that I point
15:44 out to Dan I like someone should take
15:47 getting
15:49 out yeah I think because it was right
15:52 before I think you were shortly before
15:54 so think I have a maybe a small part
15:57 that play in that
15:59 the new focus of um you know clearing
16:02 out focusing on L to clear out trees
16:08 and yeah makes
16:15 yeah I mean I was already saying it but
16:18 it's it'sing
16:22 up you guys going to get
16:27 some
16:53 yeah it makes it fun though when we have
16:55 big work
16:57 part
17:05 yesterday you're making am amaz progress
17:18 too out so like i' gota like get some
17:22 moment to back but no it's been cool to
17:25 see that find yourself in Department
17:27 yeah maybe yeah might be
17:48 that have you
17:51 been busy
17:54 yeah wild
17:56 time this is a busier season
18:01 in like on the
18:04 train hang on thanks for
18:09 coming she's
18:16 not do you sell children's clothes yeah
18:24 yeah do you have a store that you can
18:26 walk into or
18:34 where's the one
18:37 wefc okay
18:40 cool yeah it's exciting we our mission
18:43 is to keep every pie of
18:56 children's wow
18:58 she's like
19:05 so like okay that's cool and she's like
19:07 so I have 40 of them like okay well we
19:10 will make a new plan oh man four
19:15 stores a lot
19:18 ofor that's
19:25 great nice they're doing they're doing
19:28 good things
19:30 nice that is
19:37 cool are you primarily at the one or do
19:41 you move around right
19:46 now you're there every time I
19:51 go it was it the first one for 15 years
19:56 you know you know everybody
20:00 it's probably also maybe your closest
20:03 it's kind of in the middle
20:06 but but it's the
20:13 busiest we have five members okay
20:18 um two alternates but we have five uh
20:21 the only folks I mentioned that I heard
20:23 more coming for joy and Ashen
20:26 so I don't know if we want to wait
20:28 another two minutes see if others roll
20:39 in N I don't know if you heard that
20:41 we'll get going in about two
20:46 minutes great do we have a quorum we do
20:50 so we have six Now with Alex Alex great
20:53 thanks Y and sadly we have snacks in the
20:57 room wish you guys were here with
21:00 us try and do that some more next
21:09 year have to figure out a way to feed
21:12 them uhhuh
21:15 Rich Nancy we could drop stuff
21:19 off assuming she's not
21:38 everybody standing hi P do you want to
21:39 test your microphone just make sure we
21:41 can hear
21:43 you
21:45 yeah M
21:47 it don't even have to leave the
21:52 C all right ncy I think not Nancy
21:57 Stacy
22:07 morning welcome to the December 13th
22:09 meeting of the environmental board I'm
22:11 Jamie Finch and I'll be your chair
22:12 tonight do the hybrid nature of this
22:15 meeting we will have members attending
22:17 in person and by computer or phone um
22:20 for those attending remotely please
22:22 meute yourself when you're not speaking
22:24 and raise your hand um and we'll do our
22:26 best to track that um we don't see you
22:30 just hop right in um as always please
22:33 you're in person flip your name tag over
22:35 if you would like to speak um we are
22:37 going to be taking action today so um
22:40 that's something we may want to do a
22:42 little we may want to do a little bit of
22:44 a refresher on some of that stuff we we
22:48 have that so um that's something we will
22:51 cover before we get into that section um
22:54 I think that might be the oh we will
22:57 have some other uh conversations today
22:59 that we may want to summarize at the end
23:01 of the topic so um think with that
23:04 Stacey if you want to take us to
23:06 attendance okay great uh Tom Anderson
23:09 here for Refreshments yeah Nancy
23:13 Davidson here Jamie Finch here
23:18 rajy
23:20 here Joy Lis has an excused absence
23:23 Ashwin Canan has an excused absence
23:27 Ashwin
23:29 Haron Don
23:32 McWilliams an
23:34 Nukem Janet wall here Dixie bear here
23:38 and Alex Lee tigner here and we are
23:42 missing two regular memb so if Janet and
23:45 Dixie if you all could participate in
23:47 the vote and then we can rock paper
23:50 scissors when Don if Don shows up first
23:53 to see who will participate in the
23:56 vote right thank you Stacy um there any
24:00 comments on the minutes from the
24:02 November 8th
24:05 meeting hearing none those are approved
24:08 by unanimous consent uh up next we have
24:11 I don't do we have any members of the
24:15 public all right no we received no
24:17 written comments and we have no members
24:19 of the public online or in the room well
24:22 then we will get right into our agenda
24:24 items the first one being natural
24:27 environment checklist
24:45 s right I'm gonna try a different format
24:46 if you want you could okay just
24:48 introduce yourself hi everybody glad to
24:50 be back I'm Christian gets on the
24:51 planning manager the current planning
24:53 manager over in CPD um and I am here to
24:57 chat about the national environment
24:58 checklist and monitoring and tracking so
25:02 uh what I want to do tonight is provide
25:04 you that an update and then make sure we
25:06 get final input from the board on what
25:09 we hope to track what we what we can
25:12 what's what's realistic in tracking um
25:14 it does sound like this has been kind of
25:16 a request from the board for for good
25:19 number of years and so we want to make
25:21 sure that we are being responsive to
25:24 that
25:25 and plugging ahead and Gathering that
25:28 information so I add a couple slides
25:34 there so uh direction we're looking for
25:37 um we just want to make sure we get
25:39 final input from the board on on what
25:41 we've given you and we can add that in
25:44 um and right into kind of my short list
25:49 of of items
25:50 so uh background from from from my
25:54 understanding and I know most of you
25:56 here know a little bit more about this
25:57 than I do um the the checklist the
26:00 natural environment checklist started as
26:02 part of the neighborhood meeting process
26:05 where staff would fill that out with the
26:07 information from the applicant um we've
26:10 updated title 18 that changed it from a
26:13 neighborhood meeting to the
26:14 pre-application community meeting um a
26:18 long acronym there uh and so we We are
26:22 continuing to to to process that through
26:24 that new that new format um those those
26:28 that that piece there is what we want to
26:30 make sure capturing the information from
26:33 board and then tracking uh for the
26:37 purposes of maintaining of an Adaptive
26:40 management feedback loop which I'll get
26:41 into a little bit next couple slides um
26:46 so yeah we we updated title 18 uh we are
26:49 going to begin reviewing and monitoring
26:50 there's going to be a huge change kind
26:52 of what um what can happen you know
26:54 namely uh Title 18 change to removed
26:57 buffer reductions so uh there may be
27:00 some trickling through from from time uh
27:04 past that were bested to the old code um
27:08 but uh from now on we're we're utilizing
27:10 the new code and we're going through
27:12 that
27:13 implementation and if we find things
27:15 that uh give us question or give us
27:18 pause we put them on our regular update
27:21 list Grows by the day of little fixes
27:25 bigger
27:26 fixes
27:28 the real quick that the the feedback
27:30 loop that I that I talked about a little
27:32 bit so Department of Commerce they put
27:34 out a adapted management a handbook a
27:37 guide book for critical areas that was
27:40 meant to provide
27:43 this very straightforward method for
27:47 viewing
27:49 measuring recycling going back through
27:51 are we are the codes responsive are they
27:54 are they doing what policy makers were
27:56 intending uh to happen uh I I was part
28:00 of a tiny tiny piece of this uh related
28:03 to showline tracking and worked with
28:06 Commerce on from what I was doing uh at
28:09 my time with the city of Kirkland before
28:11 Gathering data and building that
28:13 information out starting with a really
28:15 small spreadsheet of one or two items
28:16 and then it grew to a list of hundreds
28:19 of projects and finally had a lot of lot
28:21 of good inputs so the benefit of of this
28:24 system is to constantly go through that
28:27 feedback this group is one of those
28:29 steps along the way is to make sure when
28:32 we have the data that we can start to to
28:34 report out and say Here's how much
28:36 mitigation is happening in square
28:38 footages in planting types in removal of
28:43 impervious surfaces in a buffer here's
28:45 what we're seeing and then this group
28:48 discusses is that what we intended the
28:51 codes to be doing do we want more um
28:54 what what are we seeing with the results
28:56 of the code and then that can help in
28:58 influence the the future policies and
29:03 regulations especially with more and
29:05 more information
29:06 so next
29:08 slide so the
29:11 the the preliminary information that we
29:14 get I'm going to run through preliminary
29:16 information final and then a summary
29:18 review and I I'll pull up the the
29:20 spreadsheet because what I did was I
29:21 just took the information from that and
29:23 inserted it into the presentation um on
29:27 the slides but kind of give you an idea
29:29 of what what I'm talking about how we
29:31 would how staff would track that
29:33 information um
29:35 so over to the next
29:38 slide um the preliminary information is
29:41 just that it is at the very early stage
29:43 of a project so this is before they come
29:47 in for permit it's the pre application
29:49 community meeting they they're giving us
29:51 what they know at the time uh there they
29:54 could have a wetland report a stream
29:56 report done it could be in peer review
29:58 but it also couldn't be so it it really
30:00 depends on how early their they the
30:04 applicant are how their steps are are
30:07 are formulating um the preference the
30:10 code intent is that they do this very
30:12 early on before they've done anything
30:13 they're pulling information from
30:15 Neighbors through Community input from
30:17 having the meeting from meeting with
30:19 staff to make sure that they aren't
30:21 identify any issues down the line so
30:24 this is very subject to change um and
30:27 you'll see in in the example I'll pull
30:29 up the spreadsheet in a bit um of what
30:32 the project started at and then what it
30:33 finished with as far as scale location
30:37 of of of
30:39 improvements so the the final
30:41 information so the the the next piece is
30:44 that when Pro the project is built out
30:46 so these are the as buil plans these are
30:48 the inspections that occur um with staff
30:51 with biologists have needed that will
30:55 formulate and and and develop the final
30:57 finally install to make sure it l aligns
30:59 with what was required and then and then
31:02 document that in this in this tracking
31:04 sheet and then the final piece is to
31:07 take that information and just evaluate
31:09 so figure out what um the preliminary
31:13 project versus the final build how did
31:15 it go through the process look at at uh
31:18 developing the overall tracking so we
31:22 can have some qualitative data to to
31:25 utilize and then bring it back annually
31:28 with this group as well as others as we
31:30 go through updates it'll help us with
31:33 our best available science uh studies
31:35 that'll have to happen with any critical
31:37 area code update um and really be be
31:43 useful um I think I might try to share
31:47 that spreadsheet real quick just to kind
31:48 of walk through it um and forgive the
31:51 size of
31:54 the of the font I'll zoom in and out and
31:58 I'll try not to make anyone
32:02 dizzy see here so really really so yeah
32:06 I try I wanted to give you a scale of it
32:10 it's it's pulling across the top all of
32:13 the bits and pieces and
32:19 from the the pre-application community
32:22 meeting natural environment checklist so
32:25 it is gathering the the project
32:29 information the critical area
32:31 information what is the critical area
32:34 that we're talking
32:35 about um asking questions like what is
32:40 the we've added what's the kind of the
32:42 condition of the the Wetland or Wetland
32:44 buffer at the time is it fully is it
32:46 covered in full fully with invasives is
32:48 it high functioning if they have a
32:50 report that's great because that can
32:52 give us a lot of good detail um we can
32:55 then again measure that at the end
32:57 that's gone from a highly uh encumbered
33:02 with with Ivy and blackberries to
33:04 a newly vegetated plants that's that's
33:08 what we want to see um just kind of
33:10 running across here uh information all
33:13 this is just right off of the the
33:15 checklist some of the things that aren't
33:18 um we get
33:20 into in a couple cells here
33:25 um getting into some more specifics
33:29 on um tree information what's on site
33:33 impervious you know current impervious
33:37 versus proposed so this kind this helps
33:42 us the regulation side of things to see
33:44 okay they were proposing a development
33:46 of x square foot square feet they ended
33:48 up building smaller larger what went
33:51 into that
33:53 change are the are the codes working to
33:57 to support or guide development or
34:01 really way off what was the what was
34:03 that change um and then just some simple
34:05 things that we can pull from whatever
34:07 they may have proposed is it a 10-story
34:09 building a seven story
34:11 building and just input that here to to
34:15 get a sense of what they thought they
34:16 could build and then what they ended up
34:17 building and then from from all of this
34:20 we can start to evaluate were were they
34:24 not considering the buffers they not
34:27 considering the environmental factors
34:30 for view preservation
34:33 or of setbacks so they had to shrink the
34:35 building
34:36 for uh so this example the the the top
34:39 bar this is from the Milano project so
34:41 these are the these are the numbers that
34:43 they had proposed at their original
34:46 neighborhood meeting um so things like
34:50 they wanted to reduce the buffer by
34:52 25% um they wanted to um install 30, 367
35:00 ft of new impervious surface uh it was a
35:05 104
35:06 units and then in the final completed
35:09 one and this is final with an asterisk
35:11 because they haven't built it yet but I
35:13 took what was from their final
35:16 presentation uh to development
35:18 commission last week uh so what they
35:21 ended up doing was they decreased it to
35:24 65 units instead of 104
35:27 um they reduced their
35:30 parking they
35:32 reduced
35:35 the
35:37 sorry proposed buffer reduction from 25
35:41 down to
35:42 17.8% for the stream and 15% for the
35:45 Wetland um and a lot of this came out
35:48 through just where the where the
35:50 location was in the
35:54 review so these these data points we
35:56 would enter in as a project is
35:59 completed a lot of it's all of it's just
36:01 pulled from the plan set so it's just
36:04 what we have in front of us from their
36:06 Wetland report from their
36:08 final final survey information as build
36:11 information on square footages and then
36:13 as time goes by we'd have these these
36:16 add up to to something useful to to
36:20 extrapolate
36:22 results
36:24 um so this just continues on to to to
36:27 look at those and then the final the
36:30 final summary sheet looks at some
36:32 comparisons and looks at what they
36:35 propos what they actually built um to
36:38 give
36:39 us part of that um I built one of these
36:43 for Shoreline improvements and that
36:45 started with a couple projects and it
36:47 ended up with a couple hundred um one
36:50 tree planted in the shoreline riparian
36:52 area became two became 10 became 100 um
36:56 and it and it became Acres couple acres
36:59 five acres on private property of
37:01 riparian area revegetation back of a
37:04 bulkhead or bulkhead removal so those
37:07 just incremental pieces we could see
37:10 something's working um do we call it a
37:12 success do we call you know what what
37:14 level of a success do we call it um
37:18 that's like this to to chat
37:21 about so I want to make sure that we're
37:23 we're we're pulling the information
37:25 we're pulling the from the the permit
37:28 materials that could be useful for
37:31 future
37:32 discussions um from the from the natural
37:36 environment checklist as well as from
37:38 the pl set I mean the plan sets have
37:41 gobs and gobs of info uh that we
37:44 can we can add into this down to the
37:48 number of
37:50 shrubs the type of
37:53 plantings and because they come in you
37:56 know few a year it's not a huge heavy
37:59 lift it's it's just right in front of us
38:02 as part of last step of review and then
38:05 the last step of the inspection process
38:07 to wrap
38:11 up Christi do you mind you sent me this
38:14 table and email which was really helpful
38:16 and if you're already G to get to it but
38:17 like the projects that what makes it to
38:21 this level versus sure sure so yeah so
38:25 the projects that would that would hit
38:27 that that level
38:30 um they they are anything that's a level
38:33 two and it has critical areas on the
38:36 property um and then it would be stop
38:46 sharing so there's a long list of those
38:49 then within level three it would be
38:52 preliminary
38:55 plats and
39:11 it's out of uh
39:15 18204 that fun table uh any level three
39:20 uh that has critical areas on the
39:22 property it's always required for PR
39:24 preliminary
39:25 clats mhm um than anything that's a
39:28 level four level four would be a
39:30 building 10,000 s feet or greater it
39:32 would be a master site plan major um a
39:35 former Master site plan or a site
39:37 development permit major
39:39 modification that doesn't me those the
39:42 minor
39:44 thresholds and and level two permits
39:46 those include everything
39:49 from uh it's a long laundry list uh
39:53 Shoreline Shoreline per all the
39:55 shoreline permits
39:56 obviously they already are in critical
39:58 area but a short plot if a short plot
40:00 had critical areas on the property then
40:03 they would they would be required to
40:05 complete the natural environment
40:06 checklist and go through the
40:07 pre-allocation community meeting if
40:09 there were Wetlands offsite that that
40:11 through buffers on them they're still
40:13 there they're still going to be
40:14 accommodated but they don't trip that
40:16 threshold for going through that meeting
40:19 there're still things we want to track
40:20 so those are still items that can be
40:24 placed on that checklist to make sure
40:26 that they are part of the final um
40:29 summary for completion because there
40:32 could be Wetland plantings that happen
40:34 on that that one short Cloud site even
40:38 if there's not a wetland on the
40:41 property is there for a single family
40:44 home that has critical areas is that
40:46 level two or level one if it's single
40:49 family uh rebuild they're not expanding
40:52 in you know towards the the buffer
40:54 they're observing the buffer they're not
40:55 going to go anywhere near that then they
40:58 they would not be subject to
41:01 the the
41:03 checklist um they could observe that
41:06 keep it as it
41:07 is and just do their project if they
41:12 have to
41:14 do they already have reable use so that
41:16 would be hard to propose but if it's a
41:20 non-conforming site and they're
41:22 remodeling under the thresholds of
41:24 performance section then
41:27 then yes it would it would kick it up to
41:29 a level two or new develop or yes or new
41:34 development Nancy please go
41:39 ahead oh you're still
41:42 muted all right can you hear me now yes
41:46 yes okay I have four major points that
41:50 I'd like to go over with Christian and
41:52 so I just want the uh committee to bear
41:57 with me as we have this
41:58 conversation uh the first one is the
42:01 well let me do an overall perspective I
42:04 think when we asked for this spreadsheet
42:06 and tracking we were trying to keep
42:07 track of how we're doing in the
42:09 environment I mean we're an
42:10 environmental board our goal is really
42:12 to keep track of how many trees are
42:14 getting cut down that are of a certain
42:16 size how many wetlands are being
42:17 impacted and how they're being um let's
42:21 say you know how new ones are being
42:24 planted whatever the case may be so my
42:27 first concern is by just doing the stuff
42:30 that is doing a pre-application meeting
42:33 we're missing things like let's say the
42:36 troll impacted a major I mean I know
42:37 that's later on the agenda but let's say
42:39 it was impacting a major Wetland its
42:43 location and it was put in under an art
42:47 installation nothing that required a
42:49 pre-application meeting um and any art
42:52 could go into a wetland so I'm concerned
42:55 that we're missing ing some of these and
42:57 I'll give you more examples that's why I
42:59 said I have a few points the new high
43:01 school the Two Urban Villages that are
43:04 proposed one at uh the Gravel Pit the
43:07 second one in the rally properties now
43:09 those are all signed agreements but
43:11 clearly each of those projects will
43:13 impact critical areas and we need to
43:15 have a way to track that so I think what
43:18 my goal was and I thought it was the
43:20 committee's goal was to have a report
43:21 card that we could put out every year of
43:25 here's how we've done over the last year
43:28 in terms of our impacts to the
43:30 environment and by just doing the stuff
43:32 that has a pre-application meeting we
43:35 may be missing some of the others
43:37 clearly the big ones like the Urban
43:39 Village or the ones that have
43:41 development agreements um we're going to
43:44 miss those um but I just think we need
43:47 to be able to track those I don't know
43:50 if Christian you have any comment on
43:52 that before I move on to the next piece
43:54 of this I think those are those are are
43:56 totally trackable uh those along with
43:59 you know voluntary restoration projects
44:01 that uh the state does the city does
44:04 those are things that we thought to to
44:06 identify what's happening on on within
44:10 within the jurisdictional
44:12 boundaries um what what are the what are
44:14 the pluses and minuses hopefully only
44:16 pluses but what are the things that are
44:18 happening right the city so the
44:22 checklist was just a kind of a starting
44:24 point to say here here's here's a
44:26 Baseline we can compare the the final
44:28 product and yes we can gather that same
44:31 information from final ASO plans final
44:34 plans and final sticks in the ground
44:38 right great that answers point one that
44:42 I had on this now can I I'll move on to
44:43 point two um I looked at the table I
44:47 haven't I had not seen the table that
44:48 you just presented on screen which was
44:50 hard to see screens aren't big enough at
44:53 home but anyway it would be great if we
44:56 I think you're tracking planned what
44:59 they put in their application and then
45:01 actual of what they actually do at the
45:03 end of the day in terms of impacts to
45:06 sensitive areas is that
45:09 accurate yes planned and then what's
45:12 what is installed yes and and what's
45:15 approved is is the the minimum uh and
45:18 then what what is installed and and
45:20 reviewed by by staff or by a consultant
45:23 if necessary then okay verifying what's
45:28 right okay so I have another suggestion
45:31 for your table that you're reporting out
45:33 in so the suggestion I'd have for you is
45:38 that you know you have planned and
45:39 actual that actual would be great to say
45:42 we started this in 2023 let's just say
45:45 that and this is what happened in
45:48 2023 and then we go to 2024 so we also
45:52 have a cumulative so we kind of see how
45:54 we're doing every year so at some point
45:56 we could plot you know kind of how we're
45:59 doing on Wetlands this year we impacted
46:02 you know 100 acres of wetlands I know
46:04 that's not going to happen but or we
46:06 planted 500 trees last year we only did
46:08 20 but I think what I'm trying to say is
46:12 it would be great to see how we're doing
46:14 on an annual basis not just a cumulative
46:17 basis starting in 2023 am I
46:19 communicating that effectively to you
46:21 Christian so you're saying you're
46:24 looking for
46:26 anything completed and
46:28 installed within a within a calendar
46:31 year is what we can look at whether you
46:33 know even if it was approved in years
46:35 past really just the measurement is when
46:38 is it installed the year installed so
46:42 we'd have planned and then we'd actually
46:44 have actual and then accumulative actual
46:46 so you're actually saying since we
46:47 started this in
46:49 2023 if that's the year we started this
46:52 is how much when the code was approved
46:55 this is what has H what we've learned
46:57 and this is what we've done that's just
46:59 a suggestion for consideration by the
47:03 administration then I'm going to move to
47:05 my next point and this is my last one
47:09 you know you're collecting some great
47:11 information and you're looking at these
47:12 plans and this committee is charged with
47:16 implementing a um clim we're supposed to
47:20 be tracking climate change and actions
47:22 that support our um climate action plan
47:26 and a lot of these will have that so if
47:29 we could request perhaps some additions
47:32 to your table which is how many EV
47:35 stations were installed as part of this
47:37 I mean some of them will have none some
47:40 will you know you have some developments
47:41 that will how many um you know solar
47:45 panels or how much energy was installed
47:47 in solar panels or other things that
47:49 we're trying to track in the climate
47:50 action plan um because you see this day
47:54 in and day out and it probably is pretty
47:57 easy to track versus trying to ask um
48:01 the sustainability group to try and
48:02 track it or maybe that's their job but
48:04 I'm just saying that there's another
48:06 piece of information that would be
48:07 valuable from a environmental standpoint
48:10 that would help here and I'm sure that
48:12 uh Stacy and the sustainability group
48:15 can identify what measures would help in
48:17 the climate action plan that are going
48:20 in new installations that's just my
48:21 feedback and
48:23 suggestions okay
48:26 that's it thank you very
48:28 much thank
48:32 you were there more parts of your
48:34 presentation you wanted to go through or
48:37 no that that was that was pretty much it
48:38 so I just wanted to make sure that if
48:40 there are other fields like EV stations
48:44 um solar panel
48:46 installs as as as we go through the
48:50 permitting process um CPD we can we can
48:54 add those those as as items even if
48:56 they're not related you know they're if
48:57 they are associated with one of the
48:59 larger projects they cre it's part of
49:01 the final package um and and the larger
49:05 ones likely will have those I mean it's
49:07 even even adding a um a lead
49:11 certification so the larger buildings
49:12 have to be lead certified so that would
49:14 be something that we could look at and
49:16 and and track how many units or how many
49:19 buildings um are are
49:23 completed so
49:26 Alex go
49:28 ahead yeah and on the topic of
49:33 additional is my microphone not working
49:35 very well yeah okay give me one second
49:38 and I'll plug my headphones in it wasn't
49:40 working very well earlier
49:53 either sorry about that
49:56 um on the topic of adding additional
49:58 Fields you mentioned that we could do
50:00 like plant type um maybe even species
50:02 it'd be I would personally like to see
50:06 if we're putting more native species in
50:07 versus like ornamentals um that type of
50:10 thing um and I don't know if that's
50:11 really calculated in the canopy density
50:13 or just the number of trees PL um
50:16 planted and I do want to I do appreciate
50:18 this spreadsheet um I like spreadsheets
50:20 this one looks really nice it's
50:21 complicated looking um so I appreciate
50:24 the detail the attention to Det detail
50:25 and everything that's going in there and
50:26 I know we're asking for like a lot of
50:28 additional things to go in there and I
50:30 but I really appreciate that we have a
50:32 format that we can utilize to capture
50:35 this data it's it's really important
50:36 data for us sure sure yeah and and one
50:39 thing about spreadsheets permit systems
50:42 they kind of they come and go um
50:45 jurisdictions replace update and
50:48 sometimes those Replacements and updates
50:49 don't talk well with former systems but
50:52 spreadsheets seem to be here to stay so
50:55 very easily manipulated and uh just get
50:59 the get the inputs in there and we can
51:01 work with that
51:03 future should add one other question and
51:06 then comments
51:09 um is Cara considered a critical area
51:13 that like if the project is
51:17 within like the crial off per recharge
51:21 area that that would be subject to a
51:23 neighborhood checklist yeah so it's it
51:26 is listed within the the definitions
51:29 under whether it's sensitive area or
51:31 critical area and it doesn't
51:33 differentiate level one through level
51:35 four um there's been discussion on did
51:38 we mean for that to happen did we mean
51:40 for it to be level one and two um I
51:43 think level one and two were the higher
51:45 grated ones and three and four were not
51:48 um we don't believe it's part of the
51:51 state's um kind of umbrella of critical
51:56 areas and we're seeking that information
51:58 from them because we want to know for
52:00 House Bill
52:01 1110 is is the entire city off limits uh
52:05 for for Cara or is is there a specific
52:09 uh standard specific specific definition
52:12 or area that think yeah part of the
52:15 reason I like it seems like impervious
52:17 surface on anything that's over car
52:21 would be of interest so I'm just Cur
52:24 like I similarly I'm trying to and I
52:27 know this is not an easy question of how
52:28 we turn data on projects into like
52:33 insight into policy um but I do think
52:36 there's there is there's both like
52:38 surface area like are we covering the
52:39 right things and then are we measuring
52:40 the right things and where we're
52:42 covering um and so I do Wonder like
52:44 things like like impervious surface is
52:48 important in a lot it's not just in next
52:50 to a wetland that surface matters so um
52:55 I do wonder if there's some some
52:58 measures that we should be trying to
53:00 pull from a broader data set uh even if
53:02 it's not impacting another um another
53:06 critical area or how we're going to
53:07 where we're going to put that critical
53:08 area lined the other thing that comes to
53:11 mind is Title 18 update with as it
53:14 relates to tree canopy so we're going to
53:16 have people have a bunch of options on
53:18 what they can do when they're
53:19 redeveloping or when they're developing
53:20 new sites like keep trees replace trees
53:23 do stuff offsite like some of those
53:26 decisions I think if we're not tracking
53:28 how people even if it's not a critical
53:31 area how they're using that then we will
53:33 have missed a really big opportunity to
53:35 just like learn and figure out do we
53:37 have this set up correctly to achieve
53:39 our goals I think one thing that cuts
53:42 across both climate and natural
53:44 environment is that the dream cany goals
53:46 so that's another thing um just
53:50 wondering if there is a way for us to to
53:52 get insight into some of these key items
53:55 and um I think
53:57 another piece that like actually as
54:00 probably the most valuable conversation
54:02 I remember in Title 18 and I can't
54:03 remember the woman's name but she was a
54:05 permanent reviewer and she was at one of
54:08 our meetings and she was like yeah so
54:10 this is what the codes this is how
54:12 people are actually using it like
54:14 because I think what we're looking at in
54:16 in this table is we're looking at like
54:19 outcomes we don't actually know how
54:20 decisions are being made and so I think
54:22 as much as we're we're going to want to
54:24 track data like I think that's really
54:27 important but the piece that I think we
54:30 may be missing because we don't have
54:31 another kind of feedback loop is like
54:35 what are what are the human beings in on
54:37 staff seeing and what are what are the
54:39 problems that or kind of uses of the
54:42 code that people are seeing and so I I
54:44 mean I I don't know how that comes to
54:47 life but that that felt in a lot of ways
54:49 more Val like they could cut
54:51 through a bunch of data they they do
54:54 that for their job is like figuring out
54:56 how people are using Code making sure
54:57 they're compliant so I do wonder if
54:59 there's some other form of more
55:01 qualitative feedback that could be
55:04 helpful just as we think about our work
55:05 plan for the year is are there topics
55:07 that we should be talking about that
55:10 people on your staff are seeing as
55:12 potential issues that maybe it's
55:14 something in title new title like Team
55:15 Code that maybe isn't being used in the
55:17 way that they they thought it would be
55:19 or that maybe we should be revisiting so
55:22 um I think
55:24 similarly our conversation later in this
55:26 meeting is going to be about what how
55:28 the board thinks about priorities how we
55:29 think about our work plan and I also
55:32 there are certain things that I think
55:34 were are like particularly timely um
55:37 I've mentioned a couple like I think
55:38 true canopy is one of the big changes
55:40 Title 18 um where there's people have
55:42 choices and so I do wonder if there
55:46 is some way of and I don't know how um
55:50 to do this without being honorous on
55:52 your end but like I think there's going
55:54 to be certain policy Focus areas in any
55:58 given year that we might be looking at
56:01 and so it would be nice to be able to
56:03 get insight into like for example maybe
56:05 it's not permanent that we're measuring
56:06 treaty canopy for all projects but like
56:09 maybe there's certain priority areas
56:11 that we do want to get in like we're
56:13 we're trying to make a decision two
56:14 years down the road and I think that
56:17 kind of needs to come from the board on
56:19 identifying what those priorities are um
56:22 but that that feels like another area
56:24 that like there's opportunity for us and
56:27 I think this of Tails into the
56:29 conversation later for us to be asking
56:31 for more specific feedback in more
56:33 specific like areas that we're really
56:36 really concerned about or or really want
56:38 to put some focus into because it's
56:39 great that we have all these columns I
56:41 think in reality a lot of those columns
56:42 will go unused the majority or they're
56:46 difficult to get real insight out of and
56:47 so there may be some high potential or
56:50 kind of high impact fields that that we
56:53 think hey let's let's keep the the every
56:56 year every like track items relatively
57:00 short and then what are our priority
57:02 items that that we should really be
57:04 thinking about and know that we need to
57:06 be capturing for a a wider range of
57:08 projects so we can focus efforts on not
57:11 capturing like 20 30 details on every
57:14 project but what are the three things
57:15 that we think matter um so I think
57:18 that's something that i' I'd love to
57:20 talk more with the board if there's
57:22 interest on that um
57:25 and then let's see is there anything
57:29 else no I think that was it I mean I
57:32 think at the end of the day what I'm
57:35 concerned about is like a checklist is
57:38 inherently kind of static and how do we
57:41 turn this into actionable insights into
57:44 what is going on what what is going
57:46 right what is going wrong and so like
57:48 the question we look through that
57:50 project detail of what happened um pre
57:53 or that pre-application meeting and
57:55 final the answer I would love to ask
57:58 whoever was reviewing the permits is
58:00 like what went well on that project like
58:02 what do we like about this outcome what
58:03 do we not like about this outcome
58:05 because ultimately that's what I I would
58:07 love our board to have insight into is
58:08 like what's going well what how is our
58:10 code being um implemented is it what are
58:13 the weaknesses and the strengths what
58:15 what do we think are um like our
58:18 observations not just the data on on
58:21 what is happening so um yeah I don't
58:25 have a ton of really specific items I do
58:27 think one thing that I i' like to talk
58:30 about later with the board is just how
58:31 we think about priorities and and how
58:34 that might filter into this
58:35 environmental or into this neighborhood
58:37 checklist but yeah I just feel like we
58:39 need to really think hard about not just
58:43 tracking but trying to find ways to to
58:44 gain insight into like policies that we
58:48 are concerned about or identifying
58:49 things that we should think
58:53 about um
58:57 uh yeah so coupling into some of the
58:59 things Jamie is just talking about um
59:02 clri well how do we evaluate the
59:05 goodness of environmental impacts how do
59:09 we evaluate the goodness of our
59:11 processes that brought us through those
59:14 environmental impacts and I'm wondering
59:16 well we're not the first body to have
59:19 grappled with this kind of problem is
59:22 has there been any standardization
59:25 of methods of dealing with such
59:28 evaluations in the industry by industry
59:31 I mean sustainable development um that
59:35 we could learn from and benefit from is
59:37 this something that's reached that level
59:39 of maturity maybe it hasn't I guess I I
59:43 ask it as a question is there is there
59:45 such science out there that we can learn
59:48 from and incorporate into our own
59:52 evaluation process
1:00:02 any comments on that question I mean I I
1:00:06 I would I would suggest the the Commerce
1:00:10 guide book on on adaptive management
1:00:13 there's there's nine or 10 online
1:00:18 trainings that of walk through it and
1:00:20 and the guide book itself is there to
1:00:23 help jurisdictions decision makers on
1:00:26 how to how to dive into information and
1:00:31 what to look for how to measure what to
1:00:33 measure um as it's very specific uh by
1:00:38 jurisdiction so there's there's no one
1:00:40 right there's no one right answer um but
1:00:42 there there are that was their intent is
1:00:45 to provide some guidance to to cities
1:00:49 and counties uh and agencies that that
1:00:52 might want to be tracking what to look
1:00:55 for questions to ask
1:00:58 themselves what are you trying to to
1:01:01 learn and how can that
1:01:04 be integrated
1:01:07 into this board's
1:01:10 work we did a little um well through the
1:01:13 rivers and streams transition to the
1:01:15 environmental board there was an
1:01:17 assessment done of nearby and out of
1:01:20 state boards and commissions and do they
1:01:23 address these topics and look at
1:01:25 projects at this level um many of them
1:01:29 don't seem to we did reach out to a
1:01:31 couple jurisdictions yesterday to see if
1:01:34 they are doing anything like this um
1:01:36 Bainbridge might be I heard back from
1:01:38 them this afternoon so I'll follow up
1:01:40 with them this week and see if they have
1:01:42 any kind of tool but so far we haven't
1:01:44 been able to find a border commission
1:01:46 that is doing this type of assessment
1:01:48 possibly at the staff level the work
1:01:56 Christian you mentioned um can't
1:01:59 remember the acronym used but it was
1:02:00 something about like when there's an
1:02:02 active monitor like there's an active
1:02:04 code review or something forget what the
1:02:21 uh oh it's I guess it's when they're
1:02:23 updating you said when they're when
1:02:25 we're updating critical area ordinances
1:02:27 that's when we're focusing on energy on
1:02:29 like kind of gathering these sort of
1:02:31 inputs like I think
1:02:35 um and and and that's that that the data
1:02:40 can support the the critical area study
1:02:43 that's that would be done you know if if
1:02:45 we'll we hire an outside consultant to
1:02:47 do an assessment
1:02:48 of what our conditions are what our
1:02:52 buffers are are we meeting the
1:02:53 requirements of the state then the on
1:02:56 the ground it's the actual tangible can
1:02:59 you can you walk on it can you touch it
1:03:01 what has been built
1:03:05 out that has
1:03:07 has sometimes more value because it's
1:03:10 what everyone sees
1:03:12 versus reaches of streams that that the
1:03:16 broader may not aware
1:03:19 of um part of the reason I was asking
1:03:21 that is I was
1:03:23 curious um
1:03:24 what St like so I love the idea of
1:03:27 adaptive management like what and I
1:03:30 don't a lot of the reason that like I
1:03:32 don't necessar think the Board needs to
1:03:34 be the one that is tracking all that
1:03:36 like I think ultimately staff is the one
1:03:37 that so I'm just curious what what your
1:03:40 team's plan is like obviously our
1:03:43 checklist is one component I think what
1:03:46 we don't know now is like what is Staff
1:03:47 already doing or what is Staff planning
1:03:49 to do that would kind of fit under that
1:03:51 adapted management yeah the the plan
1:03:55 would be to to to be tracking you know
1:03:58 completed projects as they wrap up as
1:04:01 part of the annual Circle back to this
1:04:03 group you know as to to you re-examine
1:04:06 the checklist or capturing the questions
1:04:08 that you want to have captured and here
1:04:12 are the projects that have been
1:04:13 completed um to touch on the you know
1:04:16 what did we recognize from the beginning
1:04:18 to the end of a project we do keep track
1:04:21 of potential code updates so a ments
1:04:24 that may need to happen for one reason
1:04:26 or another this code conflicts with that
1:04:28 code how do we we clean that up um so as
1:04:32 part of that we could say Well when the
1:04:34 Milano project is actually built and
1:04:36 built out we'd have something to go
1:04:37 measure and that would be part of that
1:04:40 years Port out of yes this was under the
1:04:43 old code here's what was built here's
1:04:46 what it looks like here's how the
1:04:47 process went
1:04:50 um the other and that for those for
1:04:55 those larger projects where we are
1:04:56 circling back on here are the here are
1:04:58 all of the ones that went through the
1:05:00 completed the checklist and here's the
1:05:03 ones that are completed here's what they
1:05:05 installed on the site and here's a
1:05:09 summary of how it
1:05:11 went and that that might that might
1:05:13 start to to establish the questions
1:05:18 of when you see it completed well that's
1:05:22 not what we were thinking or that is
1:05:24 about what we we were
1:05:26 hoping or somewhere in the middle
1:05:30 yeah so that's that that's that's our it
1:05:34 sounds like it's it's a bit of a more
1:05:37 informal just kind of either a list or
1:05:40 observations that your team is making as
1:05:43 projects work through the process and
1:05:45 starting very broad with as much
1:05:48 information we can gather helps us Focus
1:05:50 that in the future uh if we if we need
1:05:53 to we don't miss anything if we've been
1:05:54 entering all of these
1:05:56 items some asked why did I want to know
1:05:59 how many pilings were removed like
1:06:01 Washington yes we had one and then we
1:06:04 had two we had a dozen so that's that's
1:06:08 a positive but for that nine miles of
1:06:11 Shoreline that was all we had control
1:06:14 over so some are going to have small
1:06:16 final measurements final
1:06:18 or at certain check-ins some will have
1:06:21 larger larger values
1:06:26 Alex I know you had your hand up you
1:06:29 still want to speak I think that that
1:06:33 answered my question I was going to ask
1:06:34 about like Effectiveness monitoring of
1:06:37 these projects and um I think they kind
1:06:41 of got at that just now um I'm more
1:06:43 familiar with like res habitat
1:06:45 restoration permitting and processes and
1:06:47 there's usually like you have to report
1:06:50 back typically post one year post three
1:06:52 year post five years potentially Post 10
1:06:54 years after you do one of these projects
1:06:56 on how the process is going um so that's
1:06:59 what I was kind of wondering like do we
1:07:01 have measurements in there for how tree
1:07:04 survival or if fish passage is still
1:07:07 happening at a culvert replacement or
1:07:09 things like that um just from that very
1:07:13 much environmental aspect of things to
1:07:15 check in on on how these projects are
1:07:17 going and I think you kind of answered
1:07:19 that that it would be
1:07:22 more um just observational and and
1:07:26 looking back at projects by staff but if
1:07:27 there's other opportunities to capture
1:07:30 um more stringent data on those projects
1:07:33 um that would be
1:07:36 nice thank you Alex cage go
1:07:44 ahead sorry can you hear me yes okay
1:07:48 sorry my camera is not working sorry
1:07:50 about that um so I have just one
1:07:52 question I was trying trying to
1:07:54 understand you know the um just get a
1:07:57 general idea of the statistics so you
1:07:59 said these the data was obtained from
1:08:02 two comp two projects which have gone
1:08:05 through the process completely right so
1:08:07 I just wanted to know how many similar
1:08:10 total projects are there which have not
1:08:12 which have not required to go through
1:08:14 the process and are there any other
1:08:17 projects um you know undergoing this
1:08:19 process but have not completed
1:08:22 yet yeah so so from what I could find
1:08:25 there were two projects that were were
1:08:26 completed that went through the the
1:08:28 neighborhood meeting uh did the
1:08:31 checklists one of them was the the ISD
1:08:34 stream Bank restoration project and the
1:08:37 other was um I think it's finally
1:08:40 wrapping up it's the The Spar booster
1:08:42 pump so a public works project um those
1:08:46 I didn't dive into the the details but
1:08:49 they would they would populate that
1:08:52 other projects that were
1:08:54 or are adjacent to critical area bumpers
1:08:57 that that weren't required uh to to go
1:08:59 through the the neighborhood meeting we
1:09:01 haven't we haven't tracked those that
1:09:03 would be a sort of a a backwards review
1:09:06 and pulling that information in so we
1:09:08 could pick dates to say well anything
1:09:10 completed in
1:09:11 2023 let's pull all of that and just
1:09:14 start to build that that report um with
1:09:18 probably the the the critical date of
1:09:21 projects after 20 after June 1 that were
1:09:24 subject to the the new code if they were
1:09:28 if they were permitted and completed
1:09:30 under the new code we'd want to at least
1:09:32 start to identify where that that change
1:09:35 in the the measurement uh is taking
1:09:38 place but we
1:09:40 can when when time allows or through uh
1:09:44 um no actually I was not I mean the the
1:09:46 reason I was asking it because I was
1:09:48 just trying to figure out how stringent
1:09:50 is the checklist you know means was it
1:09:52 like 50 project s which are undergoing
1:09:54 out of which only two need you know to
1:09:57 go through the process or is it two out
1:09:59 of 10 or what was kind of you know the
1:10:02 proportion sure there there there have
1:10:05 only been two completed and there are
1:10:06 about a dozen that that went through the
1:10:10 the neighborhood checklist process from
1:10:12 what I can what I can tell okay okay
1:10:15 thank
1:10:19 you do you have any because obviously
1:10:22 you've gone through this process
1:10:23 extensively with perland what like if
1:10:26 you were the board what do you think is
1:10:29 the thing that like how would you
1:10:31 recommend we track these things and what
1:10:33 what were your conent of learnings from
1:10:35 no I I think that I think the good the
1:10:37 good additions that we can we can look
1:10:39 to uh about EV
1:10:43 stalls looking at solar panels looking
1:10:46 at the the monitoring piece so we we do
1:10:49 monitoring we do our our three or five
1:10:51 year monitoring on projects so those
1:10:53 would be know for us they'd be valuable
1:10:57 to to to recognize from an
1:10:59 administrative side of of the coin what
1:11:03 what's our success rate how much time
1:11:05 are we spending um with the circle back
1:11:09 of plantings have failed after year
1:11:12 three you have to restart or was it it
1:11:15 was it successful and why was it
1:11:17 successful because we had good
1:11:18 monitoring they had a good crew that was
1:11:20 going out and making sure that
1:11:21 everything was working um and they they
1:11:25 got on issues right away um and then
1:11:29 sort of the next piece which is maybe a
1:11:32 little more lofty is okay 10 years down
1:11:34 the road how do those restoration sites
1:11:37 look whether they were voluntary or
1:11:40 required um where folks painstakingly
1:11:43 removed uh
1:11:45 blackberries or something from space so
1:11:50 that that would be useful because then
1:11:52 that helps us understand okay is
1:11:54 threeyear monitoring long enough is
1:11:56 would better success be five or seven or
1:11:58 10 is that
1:12:03 feasible and and what's what's this
1:12:05 what's the success rate is it native
1:12:06 plants versus versus non-native um or
1:12:10 traditionally non-native but they do
1:12:13 well in the climate they have a better
1:12:15 success rate what's what's better and
1:12:18 that gets a little bit more into the
1:12:20 forestry
1:12:22 conversation but I think from the from
1:12:27 the perspective of if it's within a
1:12:30 critical area or it's
1:12:31 buffer like a stream or Wetland a steep
1:12:34 slope a bed Hillside um those are those
1:12:38 are very finite spaces that we can trct
1:12:42 any number of things including trees
1:12:44 removes planted forry program of okay
1:12:48 replanting where's that happening what's
1:12:50 the canopy percentage that's that's
1:12:52 aerial imagery and um Dan H to kind of
1:12:56 build build that up every five years or
1:12:59 so to what our canop is doing where
1:13:02 we're seeing growth where we're seeing
1:13:04 Decline and then we can start
1:13:06 to deta with
1:13:10 that I'd say
1:13:13 broader
1:13:14 um diverge as much as possible and
1:13:17 gather as much that we have at the time
1:13:21 it it's less time consuming that way to
1:13:25 just either ignore data in the future
1:13:28 and then stop tracking it to know it
1:13:30 doesn't do us any good or then then to
1:13:33 have to go back start to
1:13:36 gather and do you feel like right now we
1:13:38 are broaden up in what we're tracking
1:13:40 are there things that you think we
1:13:41 should be should be looking at it sounds
1:13:44 like one thing that I haven't heard
1:13:46 before I think is really interesting
1:13:47 idea is that there's some like we're
1:13:49 we're stopping measurement as checklist
1:13:51 stops at the end of the project being
1:13:54 completed but there's actually like
1:13:56 years that like there's down the road
1:13:59 impacts that we won't know at the point
1:14:00 even when the Project's done what's
1:14:02 happened to the trees what's happened to
1:14:04 buffer area and yeah our inspector looks
1:14:07 at that so you know it's it's part of
1:14:10 the the the permitting is part of the
1:14:13 process for us to go and verify and
1:14:16 either reup their their planting and
1:14:19 their their
1:14:20 security or release that security
1:14:22 because it was success uccessful so that
1:14:25 that information would be
1:14:27 useful as whether it's another tab on
1:14:32 spreadsheet the final final info years
1:14:36 out just making sure we get it locked
1:14:39 into our our step by
1:14:45 step other comments from the
1:14:52 board
1:14:56 well I may want to just summarize I'm
1:14:59 gonna attempt to summarize that a little
1:15:01 bit and Christian if you already have
1:15:02 feel like you have a summary I'll save
1:15:04 my breath but do you would that be
1:15:07 helpful to try to summarize up what I
1:15:09 think I've I think I've got it got it
1:15:12 okay what what it sounds like the the
1:15:14 the board would like to see um
1:15:18 and staff's they're the ones that will
1:15:21 recognize we should start tracking this
1:15:22 as well
1:15:24 so they're the ones that are going to be
1:15:26 doing
1:15:27 it and we'll we'll add things as as
1:15:30 needed and and with the the regular
1:15:33 checkback with the group here
1:15:35 we'll I think identify what what might
1:15:39 be needed if it's a a line item that
1:15:42 that somehow we missed it's not that can
1:15:45 go back and find that
1:15:47 data yeah I think you guys are the ones
1:15:50 that are in this every day every every
1:15:53 week um and while this is a tool that's
1:15:57 made for the environmental board I
1:15:59 hopefully it's something that it can
1:16:01 become useful to staff over time yes
1:16:03 selfishly it will help us justify you
1:16:06 know the the need for buffer standards
1:16:11 um the benefit of planting installations
1:16:15 the reason why um dat plants are
1:16:18 selected certain plants are selected for
1:16:20 Wetlands yeah and I think also something
1:16:22 to share
1:16:23 potentially like measuring impacts
1:16:26 things that can be on the website or
1:16:28 some stuff
1:16:30 that awesome well appreciate it sounds
1:16:32 like we're um at the end of this topic
1:16:35 but appreciate uh you sharing and and
1:16:39 yeah we'll be interested to see where
1:16:41 where the the this checklist continues
1:16:44 to evolve
1:16:45 so everyone's comment yeah I think
1:16:48 Christian will be back or someone from
1:16:50 staff will be back in August and we'll
1:16:52 present
1:16:53 the updated table results annual
1:16:56 cumulative and then maybe report to
1:16:58 accompany that so we'll get to look at
1:17:01 some results in our next
1:17:06 discussion right I think with that then
1:17:08 we move on to our next item which is the
1:17:10 annual report self
1:17:12 analysis thank you thank you
1:17:22 Christ
1:17:28 thanks okay so switching topics um uh
1:17:32 tonight we are really looking for three
1:17:35 items from the board um the first is
1:17:39 we're going to do um a reflection on the
1:17:42 self analysis and then identify next
1:17:44 steps to talk how we're going to um have
1:17:48 discussions around board priorities and
1:17:50 then the third item is we will be
1:17:52 looking for approval uh from the board
1:17:55 tonight on the annual
1:17:58 report so tonight we'll just be talking
1:18:01 through the annual report results um
1:18:03 looking at the self-analysis results
1:18:06 having some discussions and then moving
1:18:08 into that
1:18:09 appr as a reminder the board report is
1:18:13 required for submission annually to city
1:18:15 council by December 31st this year we
1:18:19 followed the same structure as has been
1:18:21 used since the board was founded
1:18:23 um and discussed how our work aligned
1:18:25 with our roles and responsibilities what
1:18:28 content we covered through our board
1:18:29 meetings this year any recommendations
1:18:32 that were made to other boards
1:18:34 commissions or Council and then also it
1:18:37 is intended to summarize the self
1:18:41 analysis um just in looking at the
1:18:44 report too I hope folks uh appreciated
1:18:48 how much you had covered this year and
1:18:51 um for me looking back at it just I
1:18:53 think we were starting off 2023 with the
1:18:55 title 18 review it seems like a long
1:18:58 time ago but that was quite a bit of
1:18:59 buildup to that
1:19:01 work um so tonight we're looking for any
1:19:04 revisions to the board report um we are
1:19:07 going to take a vote at the end of this
1:19:10 presentation um on approval to send it
1:19:12 to council um we will be moving into a
1:19:15 discussion on the self analysis because
1:19:17 felt that was important to cover before
1:19:19 we do the formal vote um but at this
1:19:22 time I did want to see if there are any
1:19:25 revisions that folks have to the report
1:19:28 before it goes to
1:19:32 council St are we going to revisit
1:19:36 because this question
1:19:39 seems we can revisit it too yeah the
1:19:42 report really just it cut and pasted in
1:19:45 the results of the self analysis but yes
1:19:47 we can revisit at the end like to do
1:19:53 we can come back to this before the
1:19:57 final so I'll just move into the results
1:20:01 of the self
1:20:04 analysis um before jumping into 2023 I
1:20:07 did want to just reflect a little bit on
1:20:09 the 2022 self analysis um and just
1:20:12 identified the feedback we received then
1:20:16 where we've made progress and where we
1:20:17 haven't made some
1:20:19 progress um in 2022 we heard a lot about
1:20:23 um from the board members about
1:20:24 incorporating in a feedback loop with
1:20:26 staff so understanding how your comments
1:20:28 your recommendations were taken and
1:20:31 Incorporated um we have created a
1:20:33 feedback loop with staff that's provided
1:20:35 to them um prior to coming to the board
1:20:38 um and that the expectation is that they
1:20:40 will Circle back with the board and how
1:20:43 um the input is
1:20:45 taken and um 2022 the board identified a
1:20:49 number of topics that they wanted to
1:20:50 cover over the next year we were able to
1:20:53 touch on a lot of those uh some we did
1:20:55 not cover uh due to delays in planning
1:20:58 timelines or there were specific
1:21:00 projects um that staff just weren't able
1:21:02 to advance because of lack of
1:21:05 funds there was a request from the board
1:21:11 um improve the framing of all topics
1:21:14 under the climate action plan uh I think
1:21:17 that's something we're still working on
1:21:18 improving and something that we'll
1:21:20 really uh work on in 2024
1:21:24 um and then the last thing I just wanted
1:21:25 to highlight is there was a request to
1:21:27 change the requirements for in-person
1:21:29 attendance we worked with the clerk's
1:21:31 office and made a more flexible policy
1:21:34 for virtual
1:21:35 attendance um so we were able to address
1:21:38 a quite a bit of the feedback that we
1:21:40 received a year ago um definitely some
1:21:42 areas that we're still working on
1:21:44 cleaning up that feedback loop and
1:21:45 framing content under the
1:21:49 IAP so for 2023
1:21:54 three um just a quick snapshot and then
1:21:57 I'll go into a little bit more detail we
1:22:00 had about 60% participation um so if you
1:22:03 were one of the ones that weren't able
1:22:05 to take that um survey we hope that
1:22:08 you'll share thoughts tonight um we had
1:22:12 General consensus from those that did
1:22:14 take it that presenting staff early
1:22:16 listen to the board and we're
1:22:17 incorporating their feedback General
1:22:20 consensus that the board functions well
1:22:23 we did hear from a number of folks that
1:22:25 they want to dive in deeper to topics um
1:22:28 they want to set priorities take some
1:22:30 leadership and then they also want to
1:22:32 hear back from um the elected officials
1:22:37 and administration about how the board
1:22:40 can really influence decisions that are
1:22:42 being made I'll go into each of those
1:22:45 just a little bit
1:22:47 more um so in terms of are we meeting
1:22:49 our objectives the board members scored
1:22:52 pretty pretty well that you all are
1:22:54 meeting the objectives as laid out in
1:22:57 the code but that we wanted to have more
1:22:59 of an impact in terms of setting
1:23:01 priorities and taking leadership on
1:23:03 topics um folks felt that there's too
1:23:05 much material at the meetings and that
1:23:07 we're often having to be um rushed
1:23:10 through those topics in terms of General
1:23:14 satisfaction with the board um generally
1:23:17 the board members generally feel that
1:23:18 the content presented is a good mix of
1:23:20 topics um good quality presentations
1:23:23 from staff uh but again uh they
1:23:26 commented that they wanted to dive
1:23:28 deeper and have a more limited set of
1:23:30 topics at each
1:23:31 meeting um that theme was reiterated
1:23:34 under the topics and priorities um board
1:23:37 members also expressed interest in
1:23:39 diving a little bit deeper in terms of
1:23:41 Transportation policy and planning uh
1:23:43 building electrification building code
1:23:46 um really want to dive deep into some of
1:23:48 these most impactful um planning and
1:23:51 project themes um there was also
1:23:53 interest in um engaging more in topics
1:23:57 around the forest management plan uh
1:24:00 ecosystem and habitat related
1:24:03 projects for staff support um board
1:24:06 generally felt that staff that the board
1:24:08 was well supported um really appreciated
1:24:11 the staff and consultant
1:24:13 presentations um but wanted to work on
1:24:16 making sure we weren't overloading the
1:24:17 agenda and that meetings weren't running
1:24:20 over the board was a little bit mixed in
1:24:23 terms of whether they felt like they
1:24:25 were having an impact and whether the
1:24:26 recommendations were really taken into
1:24:28 account uh the scores ranged from
1:24:31 everywhere a three to a 10 which was the
1:24:34 highest score we had an average score of
1:24:36 about a seven um and really the board
1:24:40 really does want to feel that impact
1:24:42 that they're having in terms of
1:24:43 providing their feedback board members
1:24:46 did feel like they were able to move the
1:24:48 needle and have real influence on some
1:24:51 of the big topics we C covered last year
1:24:53 like Title 18 comp plan um the capital
1:24:56 Improvement plan and climate action
1:25:00 plan um and then the last section of the
1:25:02 survey around improvements um board
1:25:05 members recognize that we have a very
1:25:07 broad scope um but really do want to
1:25:10 take those opportunities to set
1:25:11 priorities and do that in partnership
1:25:13 with the administration and Council um
1:25:16 and again reiterated that interest in
1:25:18 diving deeper into topics and taking
1:25:21 more time on
1:25:25 so that's very quick summary of the self
1:25:27 analysis results um what I wanted to do
1:25:31 with Jamie now is just open it up for
1:25:34 any Reflections on that feedback um for
1:25:37 those that um did or or did not take the
1:25:40 survey any other feedback that you have
1:25:44 um and just interested especially around
1:25:46 that uh the um item that was expressed
1:25:51 multiple times about diving deeper into
1:25:53 less topics I would just love to hear
1:25:55 any reflection on that um before we move
1:25:58 into discussion I Jamie anything else
1:26:01 that you wanted to jumped out at the
1:26:04 survey from
1:26:05 you you um nothing I I'll certainly have
1:26:09 some thoughts once we get into the
1:26:12 conversation but I don't think anything
1:26:13 that I need to start with I think the
1:26:16 only other area that I know uh which I
1:26:20 think is an interesting idea that be
1:26:21 curious with feedback with the idea of
1:26:23 and I don't know if there's the idea of
1:26:26 a of a some sort of retreat or
1:26:30 something is that yeah we'll go yep yeah
1:26:34 I just wanted first yeah to hear really
1:26:36 those Reflections thoughts or any other
1:26:38 comments um especially if you weren't
1:26:40 able to take it and then we can talk
1:26:42 about some of those next steps and ideas
1:26:43 that came in the survey um regarding
1:26:46 setting
1:26:47 priorities cool yeah so if anyone has
1:26:50 comments on this
1:27:01 I'm not sure if this is what we're g to
1:27:02 talk about later or now but um uh I had
1:27:06 a little bit of a I did not finish mine
1:27:08 because I was like I really feel like
1:27:11 I'm still very new and so um I I do
1:27:14 think it shows up maybe somewhere else
1:27:16 in here but I feel like I've been on
1:27:19 other boards where I feel like this
1:27:21 always seems to happen when you first
1:27:23 get on a board it like takes a year to
1:27:25 really wrap your head around everything
1:27:27 and um I find it frustrating for me
1:27:30 because I want to contribute and I feel
1:27:32 like I'm not a contributing member
1:27:34 because I just I mean and I know I I
1:27:36 recognize that we talked about big
1:27:38 things this year that are like not I
1:27:40 mean they're big topics but um walking
1:27:44 into it with the um you know the
1:27:47 understanding that like you're just
1:27:48 going to read the memo and then you'll
1:27:49 come to the meeting and it's you know it
1:27:51 takes a couple hours of your time every
1:27:53 month and I'm like well actually I mean
1:27:55 probably if I understood everything we
1:27:56 were talking about that's true but um
1:27:59 the catchup piece to be able to
1:28:02 contribute um is I think for
1:28:04 me it it would be more than just reading
1:28:07 the memo I really have to go backwards
1:28:08 and like look at the history and under
1:28:10 like to add meaningful um comments I
1:28:13 mean I could make comments but you guys
1:28:15 might be like we already talk about that
1:28:17 um so again I think it's in here later
1:28:20 but I do think it would be important
1:28:22 even if it's and I don't know how that
1:28:24 fits with the rules of of how we meet
1:28:27 but I do think it would be valuable
1:28:29 especially if we're talking adding board
1:28:31 members to have some sort of way that
1:28:34 we're getting people up to speed um
1:28:37 otherwise I'm going to be like trying
1:28:39 but I'm really it's going to be six more
1:28:41 months before I feel like I have things
1:28:43 I can that mean that mean something um
1:28:46 if that makes sense so um so it was a
1:28:49 little tricky for me to I felt to fill
1:28:50 the report I was
1:28:52 I would go like half of it I'm like yeah
1:28:54 I can answer and then it wouldn't let me
1:28:55 like skip a question too so I was like
1:28:58 well I I don't want to just write like I
1:29:00 have nothing to say just I don't know
1:29:03 yeah abely just a thought yeah do you
1:29:07 have any I think what your your point
1:29:10 about how hard it is like especially the
1:29:12 first years is really one do you have
1:29:14 any things that you think would have
1:29:16 help you or anyone else that is new Alex
1:29:19 or Al
1:29:23 yeah if there's any ideas I'm curious on
1:29:25 any ideas that any of the newer members
1:29:27 or any of the not as new members have on
1:29:30 on how that kind of learning curve how
1:29:32 we could help people kind of get up that
1:29:35 learning curve
1:29:37 faster I guess I can finish my thought
1:29:39 not I think um partially what I find
1:29:41 sometimes when I'm reading the MOs like
1:29:45 they um like okay I think I get it but
1:29:47 then when I'm here I get it so much more
1:29:49 and then I think like oh now I can
1:29:51 actually you know like maybe not tonight
1:29:53 but like at the next one i' be like okay
1:29:55 I think I get it right but then we don't
1:29:56 talk about it we're done with that topic
1:29:59 um so uh I know in other boards I've
1:30:03 been on we've talked about like that
1:30:05 first kind of like it's
1:30:08 a you know where like if if we know that
1:30:11 we are going to be talking about you
1:30:13 know here you are this is where you are
1:30:15 this is where you're entering the stream
1:30:17 we know what we're talking about for the
1:30:18 next six months because there's an
1:30:19 agenda and here's what we talked about
1:30:21 before got here and here's how that
1:30:23 relates to this it's that would help
1:30:26 because then I think I like I don't I
1:30:27 don't know I mean I feel like I know a
1:30:29 lot of stuff because my whole world is
1:30:31 sustainability but my world is
1:30:33 not canopy tree canopies and streams
1:30:37 like that's not the world I'm you like
1:30:39 you want to talk about operations and
1:30:40 buildings like I can jump in but in
1:30:42 business I can jump in but you know some
1:30:44 of this other stuff it's just not really
1:30:46 it's not my so I have to you know
1:30:50 navigate getting there so maybe it's
1:30:53 just simply I don't think it would a lot
1:30:55 but like what is Title 18 like there's a
1:30:58 lot of words we throw around in here
1:30:59 that I'm like I'm gonna have to look
1:31:01 that up later because I don't know what
1:31:02 that means you know and so then I'm over
1:31:05 here I want I want to say something
1:31:07 don't even know 10 Things I know so that
1:31:11 could be a little bit of a barrier I
1:31:12 think maybe as people maybe it's just me
1:31:16 but um because I guess we might also be
1:31:18 bringing that a lot more experience so
1:31:22 um in fields where they're very
1:31:24 comforable these topics but I think
1:31:26 we're trying to get wide
1:31:29 I maybe it's just about you know little
1:31:33 orientation yeah more in depth
1:31:34 orientation
1:31:39 yeah then we'll go to
1:31:41 n yeah um hi Jimmy and um thanks so I do
1:31:47 have a little bit of input on that um
1:31:50 because um my I haven't been here for a
1:31:53 year either I think my first meeting was
1:31:55 in May so I do understand you know
1:31:58 sometimes you don't necessarily know
1:32:00 everything the topics are new you are
1:32:02 not aware of it as well as sometimes the
1:32:04 same report comes to the board or has
1:32:07 come to the board like third time in a
1:32:09 row when I'm seeing it for the first
1:32:10 time so you know there is a lot of more
1:32:13 complicated things happening in that
1:32:15 report or the conversation because the
1:32:17 basics are all covered already in the
1:32:19 previous two meetings um so couple C of
1:32:22 things which helped me was a part was
1:32:24 you know just understanding the fact
1:32:26 that I may or may not be an expert or I
1:32:29 may not have enough information of all
1:32:31 these topics um and that's what really
1:32:34 the beauty of the environmental board is
1:32:37 you need you know board members from
1:32:39 various disciplines so there will be you
1:32:42 know my like valuable input from all
1:32:45 sectors so that was one but the other
1:32:48 thing which really helped me was um I
1:32:51 really really like the idea a lot of
1:32:53 times Stacy or whoever you know or other
1:32:56 presenters even outside presenters they
1:32:58 will say if you have any input please
1:33:00 send it to Stacy later and you know this
1:33:03 week later and you know we will take it
1:33:05 from there so I have gone home and
1:33:08 looked at the report if I had not looked
1:33:10 at it or if I didn't understand
1:33:12 something and sometimes I have provided
1:33:13 input and sometimes I have not because
1:33:16 nothing really came out of it uh you
1:33:18 know valuable input I could provide so
1:33:21 those CLE of things I I think helped but
1:33:24 I do understand that feeling but I I
1:33:27 think it's a part of the process um so
1:33:29 it didn't bother me as much um and one
1:33:33 thing I wanted to add Stacy was and I
1:33:35 didn't get a chance to add anywhere in
1:33:38 the um you know the survey was I really
1:33:42 like the field trips unfortunately I
1:33:45 missed because I was sick or there was
1:33:47 some other issues but I really like the
1:33:49 idea of the field trips which the
1:33:52 um you know board arranges I think
1:33:54 that's great that's it thank you thank
1:33:57 you P Nancy go
1:34:01 ahead I think having been one of the
1:34:04 original people that helped when this uh
1:34:06 board kind of got started I think the
1:34:08 feedback about how far we've come and
1:34:12 how much we knowledge all of us that
1:34:15 started the sport I mean we all didn't
1:34:17 know what we were doing when we started
1:34:20 and then have a involved but it's very
1:34:23 hard I think even next year when there's
1:34:24 new board members that come on the same
1:34:26 thing's going to happen in May there
1:34:28 will be a new set of board members
1:34:30 because some of us are coming off the
1:34:31 board um that will come to fruition but
1:34:35 I think that even Bears more we need to
1:34:37 decide what's important to us I mean if
1:34:40 you look at the number of topics we
1:34:41 covered in
1:34:43 2023 there's a lot of them and they
1:34:46 cover all kinds of different issues and
1:34:50 I think if I think back to 2022 the same
1:34:52 thing happened we were doing a lot of
1:34:54 different things so if we can get people
1:34:58 up to speed on our core priorities and
1:35:01 bring the other things in along the way
1:35:03 and I'm not sure what our core
1:35:04 priorities are I suspect we all have a
1:35:06 different priority but I think it would
1:35:08 be an interesting conversation to hear
1:35:10 and we stay focused on what's important
1:35:12 to us instead of letting the
1:35:14 administration and just kind of keep
1:35:16 sending us different things all the time
1:35:18 I really appreciated the memos that were
1:35:21 attached to this agenda so we didn't
1:35:23 have to spend a lot of time on them but
1:35:25 if there's things we they want us to see
1:35:27 we can always provide input but I think
1:35:29 it's important for us to stay focused
1:35:31 and I did not feel like in 2023 we did a
1:35:36 very good job of that and that's not a
1:35:38 reflection on the committee Stacy or
1:35:40 anyone else I just think we just went
1:35:43 all over the place and saw a lot of
1:35:44 different topics that seem
1:35:46 to um just came to us that's my feedback
1:35:53 thank you Nancy one other thought on the
1:35:56 the thing that Dixie brought up I know I
1:35:59 had the benefit when I was starting
1:36:01 while the board was new Nancy was not
1:36:03 new to how city government works how a
1:36:07 lot of these things work and I was lucky
1:36:09 enough to be her Vice chair so I got
1:36:11 like kind of her input and her kind of
1:36:14 thought how she thought about things and
1:36:17 so I I do
1:36:18 think it agree it's not easy to get up
1:36:21 to speed but if there's someone that you
1:36:24 see that you think oh they kind of have
1:36:26 it and I would reach out that's
1:36:29 something that I think other board
1:36:31 members would be happy to support and
1:36:33 Nancy was always so helpful with me and
1:36:34 happy to help me um so that would be one
1:36:38 one other thing is I think it is like PR
1:36:41 said a natural process like we that you
1:36:44 weren't here for year one when we were
1:36:45 all new and it was it was a a bunch of
1:36:48 newbies but uh um but yeah that would be
1:36:51 one other suggestion is is that there's
1:36:54 certain things I mean title 18 is a big
1:36:56 topic and you might be able to get a
1:36:57 downloaded 30 minutes over cofy from
1:36:59 someone about that and what's important
1:37:01 or what they think is important at least
1:37:04 that uh that might help cut out six
1:37:07 months of kind of Osmosis through
1:37:09 meetings yeah um so and then the other
1:37:13 thing oh say do you have something you
1:37:15 wanted to add I was just going to say I
1:37:17 that was making besides a kind of deeper
1:37:19 orientation maybe some kind of
1:37:22 matching of new members with older
1:37:24 members that are willing to take that
1:37:26 extra time to talk through things or
1:37:29 up um the other thing I I I really agree
1:37:33 with Nancy on I felt like this year in
1:37:36 particular I was saying this to Stacy
1:37:38 and Dawn when we had our
1:37:40 check-in the like previous two years we
1:37:43 had Title 18 and we had IAP as like kind
1:37:45 of our North Stars like we were focused
1:37:47 on big topics close to our hearts that
1:37:50 um I think we had kind of our own
1:37:53 priorities were sort of built into the
1:37:54 year but this was the first year that I
1:37:56 don't like title 18am was kind of done
1:37:58 comp plan is kind of something different
1:38:00 that we didn't really have it built in
1:38:02 and I I really do think that it's
1:38:04 important that we talk about what we
1:38:08 what the board thinks is important what
1:38:09 do we think are priorities and um
1:38:13 there's always going to be things that
1:38:14 need to come through the board and and
1:38:16 staff will will need to bring different
1:38:18 topics that might not fall within that
1:38:20 category but I we as a group we should
1:38:22 be clear and I think it would help Stacy
1:38:24 and myself whoever as the chair to know
1:38:27 what the board really cares about so we
1:38:28 can one make sure that the work plan
1:38:30 reflects that and two on agenda where we
1:38:34 have things we really care about and
1:38:35 other things we might not care about
1:38:37 make sure that we're spending the
1:38:38 appropriate amount of time and might
1:38:40 need to be a little more kind of
1:38:43 structured in how we do that so we make
1:38:44 sure that we spend time on stuff board
1:38:46 really cares about not to say that we're
1:38:47 gonna Sherk our responsibilities but uh
1:38:51 I think that knowledge would really help
1:38:53 me and and Stacy and probably staff also
1:38:56 know what to
1:38:58 present
1:39:01 n uh just a small comment to add to that
1:39:05 if we have those priorities identified
1:39:07 it will be easier for new members who
1:39:09 might come to the board or to recruit
1:39:11 new members just a thought there we go
1:39:14 and go
1:39:15 ahead so Dixie I think you mentioned
1:39:19 that sometimes you think of question or
1:39:21 a comment but you don't want to say it
1:39:24 because um somebody might have already
1:39:26 asked it or said it in in a previous
1:39:29 meeting um I'm just wondering if we
1:39:32 would all agree that it's okay to ask
1:39:35 the same question more than once and
1:39:37 make the same comment more than once
1:39:40 does everybody agree on
1:39:42 that okay so I would say if you have a
1:39:46 question or a comment just just do it
1:39:49 don't worry if it's already been said
1:39:51 said it'll remind
1:39:57 us I think the other thing we could
1:39:59 think about is like and I guess we might
1:40:02 need to talk to the clerks but like when
1:40:03 we do the review the minutes like I
1:40:05 think the minutes are supposed to
1:40:07 capture what we said in the previous
1:40:09 meeting but maybe there's some other
1:40:12 time that like if Dixie you had an
1:40:14 epiphany while we were gone or someone
1:40:15 else like if that's kind of a pattern
1:40:18 that we make sure that that gets heard
1:40:20 it's it's one thing email it out but is
1:40:22 there another way to like I don't know
1:40:24 what this I don't know what what this
1:40:26 would look like but some way to make
1:40:28 sure that just if you didn't have just
1:40:30 because you didn't have it during the
1:40:31 meeting that I a whatever comment that
1:40:33 you want to share that that's something
1:40:37 here so yeah don't know what that is but
1:40:40 maybe emailing yeah that would be step
1:40:42 that would be the easy step there might
1:40:44 be no way bring to the next
1:40:46 meeting um the staff could do that and
1:40:49 say here are the comments we received
1:40:51 the last
1:40:54 meeting all right um any other
1:40:58 Reflections on the self analysis we're
1:41:01 then going to move into kind of next
1:41:03 steps or how do we move forward with a
1:41:05 discussion around
1:41:09 priorities um the only other thing and I
1:41:11 I actually don't think I said this in my
1:41:15 comments
1:41:18 um like just like I don't think we know
1:41:21 what the board's priorities are I also
1:41:23 don't think we know what like the public
1:41:25 at large's priorities are as it relates
1:41:27 to the environment and
1:41:29 so again don't know I mean is it like a
1:41:32 Workshop near the end of the year is
1:41:34 there is there some way that because we
1:41:35 don't get people coming to our meetings
1:41:37 which is understandable Wednesday nights
1:41:39 6:30 or not uh people are in standing
1:41:42 line to get in here at that time but is
1:41:45 there some way to get more public
1:41:48 feedback on what's going well I mean I
1:41:49 think this could be a applied to IAP
1:41:51 level this going to be applied to like
1:41:54 broader level but I think there's ways
1:41:56 that either the board or sustainability
1:41:59 team you guys are already doing a lot
1:42:01 but like there's ways that we could we
1:42:03 could start to get a pulse on what what
1:42:06 people in the city really
1:42:14 care right well if you have other
1:42:16 thoughts after tonight or reflection
1:42:18 definitely send those along um
1:42:21 what we were gonna talk about was just
1:42:24 kind of next steps we'll move into a
1:42:26 discussion um around of what what we
1:42:30 might uh pull out of that self analysis
1:42:33 um but we will be sharing all this
1:42:35 information with the council um
1:42:38 including uh Jamie and Don and other
1:42:41 members of the board are invited to join
1:42:43 a council meeting in
1:42:46 February um and then one item we will be
1:42:48 moving forward with in early 24 is our
1:42:51 work plan and we'll talk about that in a
1:42:53 little bit in terms of how that's
1:42:55 developed we did provide in the packet a
1:42:58 draft work plan um the reason I wanted
1:43:01 to provide that even though we're not
1:43:04 discussing our work plan tonight is just
1:43:06 so you have a sense as we go into these
1:43:09 future discussions about what staff see
1:43:11 as priorities for the board what they
1:43:13 are intending to bring to the board we
1:43:16 can throw that out and start from
1:43:18 scratch um when we get into discussion
1:43:21 around our priorities but at least for
1:43:23 you to have that as kind of a resource
1:43:25 as we do move into those
1:43:28 discussions um so moving forward there
1:43:31 were some great ideas in the self
1:43:33 analysis around priority setting um
1:43:37 taking some leadership diving deeper
1:43:39 into a more limited set of topics and
1:43:42 better engagement from um city council
1:43:45 and uh City
1:43:47 Administration so I wanted to talk
1:43:49 through a couple different ideas um and
1:43:52 then also invite board members to
1:43:54 provide other
1:43:55 ideas um so one um comment from a board
1:43:59 member talked about a board retreat
1:44:02 thinking through this a little bit more
1:44:03 this could be an evening meeting um
1:44:07 there we can use it do kind of more of a
1:44:09 work planning meeting so thinking moving
1:44:12 around flip charts sticky notes dot
1:44:16 voting um something that's a little more
1:44:18 interactive I would need to work with
1:44:20 the works on how um that is structured
1:44:23 in terms of a public meeting um but
1:44:25 something that would be a little more
1:44:26 interactive we could even invite the
1:44:28 mayor members of the council or heads of
1:44:30 certain departments to join we could
1:44:33 talk about what is our long-term um
1:44:36 intended impact what do we want to
1:44:37 accomplish over the next year start to
1:44:40 get into
1:44:41 priorities um a few other things I know
1:44:44 Jamie and Don and myself wanted to talk
1:44:46 about was uh looking at strategy for
1:44:49 next year's recruitment
1:44:51 um and then starting to work through our
1:44:52 work plan which we could then approve at
1:44:54 one of our formal
1:44:56 meetings um an alternative that to this
1:44:59 might be just doing small focus groups
1:45:02 or one-on-one meetings um with myself
1:45:05 maybe weing Jamie and Don and help with
1:45:08 those um where you all could just share
1:45:11 in a smaller setting kind of what are
1:45:12 your priorities what do you see is the
1:45:14 impact of this board um we could sum
1:45:18 that up um and bring it back to the
1:45:19 board for
1:45:22 discussion and I'd love to hear other
1:45:24 ideas if folks have another way where we
1:45:26 can do some priority setting work
1:45:28 planning um if there's another model
1:45:31 you've used in other um venues that's
1:45:34 worked well or one that you think might
1:45:35 work well for this
1:45:39 board any other ideas folks want to
1:45:41 throw out there in terms of a format or
1:45:44 any thoughts about um those other
1:45:47 options either kind of small small Focus
1:45:50 Group groups or um a a reformatted board
1:45:56 meeting that's more kind of
1:45:58 s work through those topics
1:46:01 together Ahad um I I actually so in the
1:46:06 same vein think a group thing would be
1:46:09 way more helpful just in in just also
1:46:12 feeling more um comfortable and you know
1:46:16 everyone to know people and little
1:46:22 um and uh and I I really liked what
1:46:26 Nancy said actually I think that that
1:46:28 would have helped me a little bit coming
1:46:30 into it is understanding better what we
1:46:32 were trying to accomplish because and
1:46:35 again I think some of it's timing
1:46:36 because it sounds like it was a weird
1:46:38 year with doing the comp plan and stuff
1:46:41 like that um so it you know it felt more
1:46:45 um I had this guess this idea that like
1:46:49 sustainability Warriors yes it walk and
1:46:52 um and it felt a little more
1:46:53 administrative which I mean it is also
1:46:56 it's government but um you know it would
1:47:00 I think be um impactful for future
1:47:03 people and even just for us to know like
1:47:05 what are we trying what are we trying to
1:47:07 accomplish and how are we doing it
1:47:09 together um and agreeing on what that is
1:47:12 so that we're not you know so that we're
1:47:14 kind of a team moving forward um in 2024
1:47:19 and so doesn't feel
1:47:20 I guess I think important I really like
1:47:23 that kind
1:47:27 helpful Andy go
1:47:30 ahead well I like the idea of a retreat
1:47:33 and trying to get us together as a group
1:47:35 and the reason I think that is um I
1:47:38 think it's good for us to one get to
1:47:39 know each other a little better and what
1:47:41 our strengths and weaknesses are and to
1:47:45 to kind of you know the folks that are
1:47:48 newer to the board are struggling with
1:47:49 some of
1:47:50 the lingo and the language and what
1:47:52 we've done and it would give us that
1:47:54 opportunity but I would offer a
1:47:56 suggestion that if we did something like
1:47:58 this we all should come prepared and
1:48:00 have kind of like homework before we get
1:48:02 there and the homework I would say would
1:48:04 be something along the lines of what are
1:48:06 your top three environmental PR
1:48:08 priorities for the city and what are
1:48:10 your priorities for the board because I
1:48:13 think they're they could be different
1:48:14 and I think if people come prepared with
1:48:17 it gives an opportunity for discussion
1:48:20 and it helps us understand how many you
1:48:22 know how we can work with this group to
1:48:25 accomplish something because right now
1:48:28 we're hearing the administration's
1:48:29 priorities being brought to us and we
1:48:32 can feed off some of that that's great
1:48:35 but um I think we all have something we
1:48:37 want to see in this board and that's why
1:48:39 we signed out for it and it would be
1:48:41 great to kind of hear that from each of
1:48:42 us in a more structured
1:48:48 setting Alex
1:48:52 yeah I'll also say how valuable I think
1:48:54 that Gathering would be um I realized
1:48:59 like as I listen to the conversations
1:49:01 and the input that people are providing
1:49:02 I know nothing about the rest of the
1:49:04 board members and I I'm want to know who
1:49:07 has these background knowledge on topics
1:49:10 and like who I could reach out to
1:49:12 potentially to learn more about a
1:49:14 specific subject that we're talking
1:49:15 about um or who just how we can kind of
1:49:19 collaborate more effectively and I think
1:49:21 that an in-person meeting obviously that
1:49:23 I would be there in person for this
1:49:24 meeting um and so I think that would be
1:49:27 really valuable to be able to actually
1:49:28 see everybody in person have some
1:49:31 informal formal time together to to
1:49:34 build more of that cohesiveness within
1:49:36 the board and kind of knowledge sharing
1:49:38 um as
1:49:42 well yeah the other thing this brings to
1:49:44 mind for me is
1:49:45 like there's the the beginning of the
1:49:47 year that's really important there's
1:49:49 also like May when we have new board
1:49:52 members that's really important and I
1:49:55 think having
1:49:57 informal time that people can get to
1:49:59 know each other especially when we have
1:50:01 some people remote and I think it would
1:50:03 be really helpful and we've talked about
1:50:06 doing it sounds like that might be a
1:50:07 good time to do like a purely social or
1:50:11 like some way to like at least get
1:50:12 everyone to know each other and then
1:50:14 early in the year it does seem like
1:50:17 something where we have time to like we
1:50:19 don't have other agenda items our agenda
1:50:21 is talk about what we think is important
1:50:24 I think the other piece that I already
1:50:26 mentioned I would love to hear like a
1:50:28 call for like I were however many 12
1:50:31 people in the city and there's big city
1:50:34 of people that have other like I still
1:50:36 think that there's some aspect of
1:50:37 feedback that I'd love to not only have
1:50:40 our work plan but also like what are we
1:50:42 hearing feedback like from the from the
1:50:45 community is that like in uh isqua
1:50:49 newsletter it's like what do you care
1:50:51 about in the environment like submit
1:50:52 your topics and and maybe that's
1:50:54 something that can generate some ideas
1:50:57 that uh that I think our group will have
1:50:59 plenty of ideas but uh hopefully some
1:51:02 some new new people other new ideas into
1:51:07 so an interesting thing when um Alex
1:51:10 said something about like as we all get
1:51:12 together like we don't know necessarily
1:51:13 what everybody's backgrounds are or even
1:51:14 like what the access is that we have in
1:51:16 in isapa and so being able to kind of
1:51:19 not only pick piggybacking finan that
1:51:21 where we come you know prepared we also
1:51:23 kind of come with like hey what do I
1:51:25 bring to the sport that might be
1:51:26 important like what am I the expert in
1:51:28 um and so you know maybe we come up with
1:51:30 a topic and we're like we all have an
1:51:32 opinion but you know maybe somebody's
1:51:34 got a background that really helps it um
1:51:37 because when you said that I thought
1:51:38 well I got an email list with 6,000
1:51:40 people on it they're all thisa residents
1:51:41 but happy to talk about their opinions
1:51:43 of thisa you know so like um you know we
1:51:47 probably have more we probably have more
1:51:50 access than we think just by you know
1:51:52 putting our heads together and going oh
1:51:54 wait you do that and you do that and
1:51:56 wait we actually have a lot here that
1:51:57 maybe we aware Haven
1:51:59 really had that interaction
1:52:03 so all right um I'm not sure between
1:52:06 Alex and Tom but Tom and then we'll come
1:52:08 back to you
1:52:09 Alex okay thank you Jamie um oh and nany
1:52:12 sorry there's so oh yeah it's a real
1:52:14 conundrum to figure out the whole
1:52:16 priority thing like well there's there
1:52:18 there will always be too many things to
1:52:20 talk about we could never uh talk about
1:52:24 everything that could be talked about in
1:52:26 this year everything that was brought to
1:52:28 the board I think was appropriate to to
1:52:30 be brought to the board but yet I'm one
1:52:32 of those who Express concern about too
1:52:34 much material okay so what gives well
1:52:38 okay you just have to make your best
1:52:40 shot at establishing priorities and and
1:52:43 focus on it and I was kind of impressed
1:52:45 by the uh process and the discipline
1:52:48 used in the capital
1:52:50 play where okay here's the spreadsheet
1:52:53 here's these multiple Columns of of
1:52:56 evaluation the pros and cons impacts of
1:53:00 each of these things because there's
1:53:02 always uh too many things to we don't
1:53:04 have enough money to do all the things
1:53:06 okay so we have to in the same sense and
1:53:10 so putting a little bit more objective
1:53:13 discipline in the process of
1:53:15 establishing the priorities of with
1:53:17 brought to the board I think would be
1:53:18 helpful I mean as an engineer that's
1:53:22 our let's let's make a more objective
1:53:25 let's establish a criteria for why
1:53:28 something is of enough value to bring to
1:53:31 the board and crank on through that
1:53:33 process and okay let's get everybody's
1:53:35 opinion about each of these categories
1:53:38 of evaluation and and then tally it up
1:53:42 and whatever gets the highest scores we
1:53:45 get to hear those other things are
1:53:47 pushed out um you know we don't live in
1:53:50 a perfect world another possibility and
1:53:54 I know this is this is probably not
1:53:56 practical but okay so we make some
1:53:59 subcommittees to focus on particular
1:54:02 topics and and push some of that detail
1:54:04 work into a subcommittee and u i don't
1:54:08 know that that has a whole new layer INF
1:54:11 of infrastructure from City support
1:54:14 Etc and
1:54:16 quorums it's probably not practical but
1:54:19 anyway that that that is something that
1:54:22 could be done you know maybe not now but
1:54:25 maybe someday it's another way to kind
1:54:29 of expand the the scope of what we can
1:54:32 cover and yet not give it to a cursory
1:54:36 level um by the whole group but have a
1:54:39 focus group that looks at it a more deep
1:54:42 level I over for myself I would I would
1:54:45 rather pick a few areas of interest and
1:54:48 become more deep deeply involved in a
1:54:51 few areas of Interest even though I have
1:54:53 some interest in these other things I'm
1:54:55 willing to focus for the sake of doing a
1:54:57 good job in a particular area that's
1:55:00 that's how I would prefer to approach it
1:55:03 but that's my objective approach as an
1:55:06 engineer sort of thing kicking in thank
1:55:17 n um I want to go back to just a couple
1:55:20 of things that um were stated a little
1:55:22 bit ago Jamie you mentioned like um
1:55:24 gathering around May again to have a
1:55:26 more social Gathering um after new
1:55:29 members come on I think that's a great
1:55:30 idea I think it would be really helpful
1:55:33 to have that planned and or like a date
1:55:36 set aside early on so as you're doing
1:55:38 recruitment of members that's on their
1:55:40 calendar of something when I came on was
1:55:43 right when the field trips were
1:55:44 happening and it just didn't work out
1:55:45 with my schedule because it was right
1:55:47 there um and that I was learning about
1:55:50 them as I was learning about the board
1:55:51 so I wasn't able to attend any of those
1:55:53 field trips and then I just kind of had
1:55:55 a question about how does the general
1:55:58 public actually find out about the
1:56:00 topics that we're talking about or the
1:56:02 these meetings outside of just like
1:56:03 looking at the city calendars or when
1:56:05 the public notice is made is there an
1:56:08 opportunity for us like Dixie said to
1:56:11 spread that through our connections a
1:56:13 little bit more um or is there an
1:56:16 opportunity to host a specific more
1:56:20 Community Gathering uh feedback meeting
1:56:24 um where we really broadcast and ask for
1:56:26 that I know there's going to be some
1:56:27 around um some specific messaging coming
1:56:30 out about some of the products that have
1:56:32 been developed or the reports that have
1:56:33 been developed so maybe that's an
1:56:34 opportunity to then also ask for
1:56:36 feedback um from the community about
1:56:38 what their priorities are for us to
1:56:40 focus
1:56:42 on yeah just a brief um great suggestion
1:56:46 around kind of booking a May date for
1:56:48 orientation
1:56:50 um and then in terms of how information
1:56:52 is commun communicated out to the public
1:56:55 for these meetings that is just done
1:56:57 through the community calendar we have
1:57:00 um a very short list of interested
1:57:02 parties that I CC on when I distribute
1:57:06 the um agenda that folks that have been
1:57:08 asked that have asked to be on that
1:57:10 mailing list um they can definitely be
1:57:14 sent out more widely we do have a
1:57:16 sustainability list there we hav't um
1:57:18 exos asked if folks on that list Ser
1:57:21 would want to receive information um
1:57:23 that is something we can do and we've
1:57:24 talked about updating that list Ser um
1:57:28 last year the mayor did a sustainability
1:57:31 open house which I thought was a nice
1:57:33 way to Showcase a little bit about what
1:57:35 the environmental board was doing I
1:57:37 think the board could definitely host
1:57:39 something like that again we could also
1:57:41 have a table at um the sustainability
1:57:45 Fair we could put together a survey
1:57:47 there's yeah we can absolutely do more
1:57:49 ways of getting out in the public and
1:57:52 figure out ways to get input on um the
1:57:54 board's priorities so open to any and
1:57:59 suggestions thank
1:58:02 you um Nancy and then
1:58:06 Crouch so two comments on two different
1:58:09 things I'm going to talk a little bit
1:58:10 about what Stacy said first and that is
1:58:13 I think that's a great topic for the
1:58:14 retreat how do we reach out to the
1:58:16 public and get more input into the
1:58:18 overall board I and I think that's
1:58:20 something we could bring to the table
1:58:22 and have a conversation about think
1:58:23 about but the other thing I wanted to
1:58:26 point out is um in my opinion the
1:58:30 board's been missing the two students
1:58:32 that we have um are supposed to have as
1:58:34 part of the board particularly this year
1:58:37 um participation has been down
1:58:39 considerably more than it was in the
1:58:41 previous year and I think we need to
1:58:43 reach out to the students and see what
1:58:46 we can do to get them to participate in
1:58:48 a retreat and to get their interest you
1:58:51 our student members into the overall
1:58:54 board because there's a reason the
1:58:55 council and the mayor Identify two
1:58:59 positions on this board for them and uh
1:59:03 we need to see if we can't get them more
1:59:05 actively
1:59:07 involved that's
1:59:15 it hi um so I just wanted to add
1:59:20 something on the first Jamie's comment
1:59:23 on you know how to reach the community
1:59:25 and then everybody has commented on it I
1:59:28 I agree with that um I have seen some
1:59:31 surveys I think from City of samamish at
1:59:33 least some City where they have actually
1:59:36 asked for public feedback but I don't
1:59:39 remember if it was specific to Parks or
1:59:42 not necessarily for a construction
1:59:44 project it was not a public hearing or
1:59:46 anything it was actually a survey Link
1:59:48 Center out to the public and I have
1:59:51 provided feedback couple of times um so
1:59:54 we could do something like that and I
1:59:56 know s um Stacy also mentioned that um
1:59:59 Stacy I thought sustainability group had
2:00:02 a podcast or a YouTube channel or
2:00:06 something like that or at least I had
2:00:08 seen something um so maybe that would be
2:00:11 a way to you know um ask for feedback
2:00:14 that would be other thing um to Nancy's
2:00:18 point of you know engaging more students
2:00:21 we could also reach out to the um
2:00:24 schools in isqua school district you
2:00:26 know especially high schools green teams
2:00:29 and all and ask them if they are
2:00:31 interested in providing any you know
2:00:33 ideas which especially high schools is
2:00:35 because you know these are little um
2:00:39 bigger kids they are more you know
2:00:41 involved in it um so we could do that as
2:00:45 well these are just a few ideas at the
2:00:47 top of my head
2:00:49 and I think the retreat is a great
2:00:54 idea thanks
2:00:57 P all right um well sounds like there is
2:01:02 interest in um in a retreat work session
2:01:09 uh so what I will do is work with the
2:01:12 clerks and Jamie and Don um to figure
2:01:15 out the structure of that and put
2:01:17 together an agenda
2:01:19 um I had already checked in with the
2:01:21 clerks about some potential dates
2:01:23 because we have a lot of conflicts with
2:01:25 other boards commissions and then um
2:01:28 cultural and religious holidays so we do
2:01:30 have one date in January and one in
2:01:32 February um that would be potential I
2:01:35 will send those out to you all because
2:01:37 we would ideally like to have everyone
2:01:39 there um and so see if there's conflicts
2:01:43 and any of those dates um it's a late
2:01:45 January and then I think the 7th of
2:01:47 March so I'll get those out to the board
2:01:50 tomorrow um and uh yeah really great
2:01:54 input great topics that were brought up
2:01:56 tonight that we could cover at that
2:01:58 Retreat and I will also work to see if
2:02:00 we can get the mayor or elected
2:02:02 officials or um even some of the
2:02:04 department heads that we work with a lot
2:02:06 to join um for part of the discussion
2:02:15 um great okay any other
2:02:19 um thoughts around the next work session
2:02:23 or uh other Reflections on the self
2:02:25 analysis where we should take
2:02:33 action um well with that we did want to
2:02:37 go back to the board report um of which
2:02:41 the self analysis is one piece um and
2:02:44 open it up for any discussion on
2:02:47 revisions to the report I can pull it up
2:02:50 um and then move into a vote on whether
2:02:54 or not the board approves the report for
2:02:56 submission to
2:02:59 council just as a quick refresher on how
2:03:03 this will go um no refresher partially
2:03:06 just for me to State it out loud and see
2:03:09 see if that what I'm saying is wrong but
2:03:11 uh so we'll ask any questions about kind
2:03:14 of before any motions are made any
2:03:17 questions to Stacy or um uh otherwise uh
2:03:21 any comments that might need to be made
2:03:24 before then and then I'll ask for
2:03:27 basically the floor to be like someone
2:03:28 to make a motion and the motion would be
2:03:31 I think one of three options it's
2:03:34 recommend that we approve the the letter
2:03:37 as presented or report as presented uh
2:03:42 approve it with revisions that we would
2:03:43 dictate or not recommend the forward and
2:03:47 so someone makes a motion there would be
2:03:50 someone either seconds it or someone
2:03:51 doesn't second it someone seconds it
2:03:53 then it would go into discussion um any
2:03:56 amendments from that point basically if
2:03:59 someone wants to amend what the the
2:04:00 motion is that amendment has to be
2:04:03 handled before we go back to the motion
2:04:04 so it's basically like you you you kind
2:04:07 of in a nut in a in in a vacuum talk
2:04:10 about that Amendment and then come back
2:04:12 to the broader motion um uh for for
2:04:15 discussion and then ultimately what
2:04:17 we're trying to get to at the end the
2:04:19 day is a to decide on a motion
2:04:27 that did I get that right
2:04:30 Stacy um so yeah I think with that being
2:04:34 said um now would be the time if there's
2:04:35 any kind of general questions or
2:04:38 anything else that uh board wants to
2:04:40 discuss prior to us taking
2:04:45 action Nancy go ahead so I just went
2:04:49 back and looked at the board report
2:04:51 again and I would like to see another
2:04:54 section added to it and that is it the
2:04:57 before you get to the appendices just a
2:04:59 small section saying that we discussed
2:05:01 having as part of our self assessment we
2:05:03 discussed having a board retreat to set
2:05:05 our priorities and invite council
2:05:08 members Administration and the mayor to
2:05:10 participate in it um and I think that
2:05:14 discussion should happen in there so
2:05:16 that they know that we're trying to set
2:05:18 our priorities and kind of provide more
2:05:20 leadership along the way and I would
2:05:23 like to see that added to the board
2:05:25 report just as a paragraph or very small
2:05:27 subsection in the first two pages of the
2:05:29 board
2:05:32 report
2:05:36 right any other questions
2:05:40 or if not um there's formal action
2:05:45 requested on this item so uh is there
2:05:48 anyone willing to make a
2:05:51 motion N I don't know did you put your
2:05:55 down I moved to approve the board the
2:05:58 annual board report and submit it to the
2:06:00 council with uh Amendment added to it uh
2:06:04 to include a discussion about having a
2:06:08 retreat to set priorities um with the
2:06:11 language approved by the board chair and
2:06:13 vice chair prior to
2:06:16 submitt now we need a second
2:06:19 a second right now uh we will discuss
2:06:23 the motion so any comments or questions
2:06:26 Nancy if you want you can lead since it
2:06:29 was your motion if you have anything to
2:06:31 say oh I just think I just tried to
2:06:33 summarize the feedback I provided
2:06:36 earlier and I think that Jamie and um
2:06:39 Don are more than capable of approving
2:06:41 whatever language gets put in that so
2:06:44 that's all I have to
2:06:46 say all right any other questions or
2:06:51 comments okay uh now I think we'll move
2:06:55 very none we'll move to
2:07:00 V uh Tom
2:07:03 Anderson hi Nancy Davidson I Jamie pinch
2:07:12 gandi i Ann new I and we'll have uh J
2:07:18 and Dixie are going to vote tonight as
2:07:20 regular members Janet wall hi Dixie bear
2:07:24 hi and Alex Lee tigner
2:07:29 hi it sounds like that
2:07:32 motion everyone um and then we'll follow
2:07:36 up with
2:07:37 yes I'll send you those
2:07:39 revisions um I think with that do you
2:07:43 have anything else on the report self
2:07:45 analysis no I do have some report quick
2:07:48 report
2:07:49 now we'll move on to reports great well
2:07:52 thank you again for all the feedback um
2:07:55 really excited for 2024 and to um meet
2:07:58 with the board and set priorities um so
2:08:00 just a few quick updates um some Council
2:08:03 updates and wanted to highlight some of
2:08:05 the upcoming Council decisions um
2:08:08 council did recently approve hiring a
2:08:10 full-time Solid Waste analy this
2:08:13 position is going to relieve five plus
2:08:16 staff um and several Consultants that
2:08:19 have been working on solid waste and
2:08:21 really help to centralize that under a
2:08:23 single position um the sustainability
2:08:25 team will work closely with the solid
2:08:27 waste analysts on um making progress
2:08:30 towards the solid waste goals in the
2:08:33 IAP um last night council did have a
2:08:36 meeting with legislators to talk through
2:08:38 legislative priorities it is a short
2:08:41 legislative session this year so Council
2:08:43 had a pretty short list of um priorities
2:08:47 but it did include includ several
2:08:49 Transportation related initiatives
2:08:51 including um preparations for light rail
2:08:54 um I did want to note as well that the
2:08:56 King County City's climate collaborative
2:08:59 k4c um did develop a pretty extensive
2:09:02 list of climate related priorities for
2:09:05 this legislative session um happy to
2:09:07 share those out with the board um but
2:09:09 that is being Advanced
2:09:11 by the
2:09:13 executive um coming up with Council um
2:09:17 uh David REI will be doing a brief
2:09:20 presentation on the decarbonization uh
2:09:23 the building decarbonization resolution
2:09:25 that this board supported we did present
2:09:28 to council committee this last Tuesday
2:09:31 um they were supportive of it but did
2:09:33 request a brief presentation with
2:09:34 Council January 2nd um so that will be
2:09:37 going to full Council um also in January
2:09:41 they will be um they will see a solar
2:09:44 plus storage Grant which is supporting
2:09:46 our resilience Hub project um and that
2:09:49 will go to them for approval um David
2:09:51 and possibly Kathleen will be back to
2:09:53 talk more about that project um next
2:09:56 year um and then upcoming for Council is
2:09:59 also a review of other elements of the
2:10:01 comprehensive
2:10:03 plan um I did want to flake that there
2:10:06 are a couple of reports in the packet um
2:10:09 these are primarily followup um reports
2:10:13 to you all on topics that have either
2:10:15 been brought through presentation or a
2:10:17 previous report um Jen Davis Hayes our
2:10:21 economic development manager provided an
2:10:22 update on the Pioneer project which
2:10:25 recently went before Council um at this
2:10:28 time there are not any extra
2:10:30 sustainability incentives that look like
2:10:32 will be included in that project but
2:10:34 that's something she would like to um
2:10:36 discuss further with us in the
2:10:38 future um there's a report on the Sewer
2:10:41 Master Plan update that was presented to
2:10:44 a council Committee in November um Matt
2:10:47 Ellis wanted to provide that
2:10:48 to the board as it's a nice summary of
2:10:51 all the environmental board feedback
2:10:52 that was provided earlier in the year
2:10:55 and how that um feedback was addressed
2:10:57 in the Plan
2:10:59 update and then the last item yes what's
2:11:02 up great you did that oh great great
2:11:04 yeah and that will be going to the
2:11:06 council later in
2:11:08 2024 um and then there is a update or a
2:11:12 a troll ahead in my notes troll Wetland
2:11:15 report um just an update on the
2:11:18 mitigation that was done um for the
2:11:20 troll and a study that was done um
2:11:23 because it wasn't a wetland buffer um
2:11:27 Christian just shared with me that um
2:11:29 there was mitigation that was done on
2:11:31 that site they are going to continue to
2:11:33 apply wood chips throughout um the life
2:11:35 of that project um some of you may have
2:11:38 noticed a new sign uh there that was uh
2:11:41 installed with each of the sites for the
2:11:44 trolls um and my understanding is there
2:11:46 is also a signment that's being
2:11:48 developed with the tribe that'll really
2:11:50 highlight um around highlight the
2:11:52 wetlands in the area and talk about the
2:11:55 value of wetlands so more the ecosystem
2:11:58 Focus for educating the public and
2:12:00 visitors to the troll um there is also a
2:12:03 mitigation plan um that will uh go into
2:12:06 effect once the troll is no longer there
2:12:09 which lifespan's estimated around three
2:12:12 years um and then just uh upcoming
2:12:15 topics for the environmental board um
2:12:18 well I recognize we will be working in
2:12:20 January or early February to set
2:12:22 priorities um the two topics we are
2:12:24 planning to bring to you all in January
2:12:27 is um the 2022 greenhouse gas emissions
2:12:31 inventory report um David will be
2:12:33 sharing
2:12:35 information um with you on the community
2:12:38 inventory and our first city uh
2:12:40 Municipal operations inventory we will
2:12:44 be going to council with that
2:12:45 presentation in February so we're really
2:12:47 hoping Hing to get some feedback from
2:12:49 the board on um what should be presented
2:12:51 to council um any input that you have on
2:12:55 the results and the way that it's
2:12:56 reported before we go to council um and
2:13:00 then the other main topic for January um
2:13:03 we're anticipating uh would be Kathleen
2:13:06 will share some of the communication
2:13:08 tools and Concepts that we're working on
2:13:10 coming out of the climate vulnerability
2:13:12 assessment and seeking feedback on
2:13:15 those um and then I did want to f we are
2:13:18 anticipating a couple of special
2:13:20 meetings um for the board uh as last
2:13:24 year try not to do too many of these
2:13:26 they are seeming to end up kind of early
2:13:29 in the year for some reason um we'll be
2:13:32 looking at that um work planning Retreat
2:13:36 um and then late January we will um need
2:13:39 a special meeting to review the full
2:13:41 environment element or the um
2:13:43 environmental stewardship and climate
2:13:45 resilience element of the comprehensive
2:13:47 plan that's because of the timing for
2:13:49 when it goes to PPC um and Council uh we
2:13:53 just weren't able to fit it into one of
2:13:55 our regular
2:13:56 meetings um and then the other potential
2:13:59 one is February 5th this is when we'll
2:14:02 be meeting with Council to present the
2:14:04 greenhouse gas emissions inventory and
2:14:07 they've asked um for a presentation on
2:14:09 the environmental board retreat so we
2:14:11 could talk about that in January whether
2:14:13 that's Jamie and Don if other members of
2:14:16 the board want to be there um we can
2:14:18 also set that as a special meeting if
2:14:19 we're going to have five
2:14:21 or um but just wanted to Def play those
2:14:23 dates and I will also send those out and
2:14:26 follow
2:14:29 email is all I
2:14:31 had any other business on the
2:14:39 board thank you um I will as folks are
2:14:42 leaving the room here I was going to
2:14:43 share a video I will post that for you
2:14:47 all in the chat this was a video put
2:14:49 together by sustainability ambassadors
2:14:53 um feel free to to watch on your own
2:14:57 time it's pretty fun Janet Janet got a
2:14:59 preview here she was here
2:15:01 early but thank you P Nancy Alex have a
2:15:05 great um enjoy the holidays and um we
2:15:09 will see