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Environmental Board
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Wednesday, January 10, 2024
6:30 PM
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Agenda · 5 items
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2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of December 13, 2023
packet pp.3–5
Open packet at p.3 ↗
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 12-13-23 Environmental Board Minutes Page [1] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. December 13, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Climate Vulnerability Assessment Communication Concepts (D) [30m]
Kathleen Hillery, CivicSpark Fellow · packet pp.7–25
Topics:
Climate
▶ Watch from 2:06
Open packet at p.7 ↗
Staff report:
Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
4b
2022 Greenhouse Gas Emissions Inventory (D) [75m]
David Reedy, Sustainability Coordinator · packet pp.27–64
Topics:
Climate
▶ Watch from 1:04:47
Open packet at p.27 ↗
Staff report:
Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
5. REPORTS
5a
Proposed Content for Environmental Board Retreat (tentative)
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
Environmental Board Draft 2024 Workplan
packet pp.65–67
▶ Watch from 2:07:28
Open packet at p.65 ↗
Staff report:
APPROVED: [Date] REVISED: 1/4/2024
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all right welcome to the January 10th
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meeting of the esquad environmental
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board I'm Jamie Finch and I'll be your
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chair tonight uh due to the hybrid
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nature of the meeting we will have
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members attending in person and online
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uh for those online please keep yourself
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muted while you're not speaking um raise
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your hand to indicate your desire to
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speak we'll do our best to catch you and
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then hop in if we're still missing you
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um anyone in person as we always do
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please put your name tags up on the side
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when you would like to speak um I don't
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think we'll have any topics that we need
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to summarize agreement maybe we will
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with one of the items uh tonight
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summarizing agreement around topics um
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and if so uh we'll summarize that then
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have any
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comments summarized I think with that we
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can move into attendance St you want to
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take a
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uh Tom Anderson here Nancy Davidson here
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Jamie Finch here Raj
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gaki Joy
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Lewis Ashwin
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Kanan here Ashwin manah
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heran Don McWilliams
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here an newcom I know is planning to
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join us virtually doesn't look like
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she's here yet um Janet wall Dixie bear
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Alex Lee tigner here we have
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cor thank you Stacey
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um uh we have any comments on the
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minutes from our previous
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meeting hearing none those are approved
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as presented um next up I don't think we
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have any public that are going to be
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speaking degree I don't think we also
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had any public comments no no written
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public comments we do have one member of
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the public online but has not indicated
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an interest to speak
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tonight all right well I think with that
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then we can move into our agenda items
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the first one being the climate
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vulnerability assessment communication
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Concepts
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oh we want to do do we want to introduce
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Nick let's do that real all right that
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on my attenda sorry uh Nick do you mind
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turn on your camera real quick we'll
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just do a brief introduction
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UMO horen just joined us on Monday um as
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uh similar to Kathleen Nick is a Civic
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spark fellow Kathleen will maybe do a
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very quick reminder of Civic spark um
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during her
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presentation um Nick joined us from
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California is going to be with us
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through August um is working on a number
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of climate projects uh some of we'll be
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taking on some of the work uh that
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Kathleen has done so far for the city
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but then also working on a number of
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additional projects like the climate
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challenge helping with the
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sustainability Fair um working on our
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resilience projects and a number of
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other ones so I'm sure the board will be
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hearing from Nick later in the year
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presenting on the projects um that
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they've been working on Nick do you wan
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to say anything to the members of the
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board or you can also wait till you're
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here in person
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too yeah I think you covered it but um
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I'm glad to be here uh listening thank
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you
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now we will move into the climate
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vulnerability assessment
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Concepts great thank you Stacy good
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evening board members of the public my
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name is Kathleen Hillary and I am the
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Civic spark fellow working with the
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office of sustainability as a brief
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reminder that's a maror program that's
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recently been folded underneath the
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Washington climate Corp and the
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fellowship offers various professional
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development opportunities for fellows to
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work with municipalities and departments
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working on sustainability and
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sustainability adjacent topics uh and
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engage in other various trainings in the
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field my purpose tonight is to provide
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you all with preliminary Communications
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material Concepts to inform our
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community about the climate
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vulnerability assessment its findings
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and lean into various connections for
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followon information resources and
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actions that our neighbors can
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take tonight we'll discuss a very high
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level overview of what the CVA found and
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Associated messages we'd like to make
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clear to the community and the concepts
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themselves
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please first let's remember that the IAP
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identified the need to conduct a climate
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vulnerability assessment with IAP action
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CR 2.1 uh to understand the specific
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climate impacts which threaten isqua and
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strategies for enhancing Community
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adaptive capacity especially of
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vulnerable groups and Municipal
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infrastructure the CVA analyzed four
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General sectors buil environment natural
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systems and storm water water resources
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and Sewer public health and well-being
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and then the 10 sub sectors that you can
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see on your
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screen the graphic depicts climate
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impacts to these Associated sectors the
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broad sectors including Wildfire heat
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and consequences of extreme
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precipitation this graphic details the
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relative vulnerabilities from high to
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low of the sub sectors taking into
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account both climate risk which factors
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in sensitivity and exposure to climate
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impacts as well as the Adaptive capacity
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of the sectors themselves which include
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the capability of systems biodiversity
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and Institution
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to moderate cope or adapt to climate
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change next slide
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please conducting this assessment
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allowed staff to understand various
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areas of improvement and the CBA did
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circulate very much so among the
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staff what we'd like to do is
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communicate the assessment in its uh
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full form but also in truncated forms by
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communicating both the assessment itself
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and how various elements of the IAP
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address identified gaps from the
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assessment plans for future work etc by
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offering this transparency we can
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facilitate Community inclusion and allow
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individuals and family units to
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determine what preparations they need to
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build resilience for themselves and
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among neighbors these targeted
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Communications materials can't distill
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50 pages of information uh but we can
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generate exposure to the various facets
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that were held within that assessment
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and also building Community
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resilience slide
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please we want to communicate the
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findings accurately and widely without
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being reductive but that's going to take
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a lot of different Communications
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material in many different ways so
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tonight you're only getting three uh and
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those are a municipal website page
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update and inclusion of the CVA to
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provide a central location for the most
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accurate and upto-date
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information they would also house a link
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to the full report and various other
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community uh Community Communications
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materials and two-page memos reducing
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the 50 pages into various sectors and it
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would also be a place where community
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members could find links to follow on
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resources for preparing for extreme
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weather we'd like to also do a school
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flyer for poster similar tool to
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facilitate youth inclusion and perhaps
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even in incorporate some coverage of
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multilingual family structures by
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children who attend ISD schools bringing
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these things home to family members who
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may not have English as a first
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language and a community notice fly or
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similar signage tool which could Foster
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neighborhood level awareness in order to
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build resilience have a plan among
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neighbors and have some constant signage
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or similar stationary Landmark keeping
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resilience front in
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mind as stated a website in update to uh
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isqu Municipal website itself Builds on
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existing dashboards to present a central
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database for
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information this would have a link to
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vulnerability assessment which you can
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see in the bottom left corner this
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mockup is is on the Emergency Management
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page but it does not have to be housed
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here specifically this is just a concept
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it also have its own web
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page housing it here or on its own web
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page allows us to incorporate links to
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additional resources as previously
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stated we anticipate that key elements
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of such an update would include the
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report itself and the two-page memos as
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well as resources to Human
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Services weather trackers from Noah or
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the National Weather Service and any
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City plans that specifically address
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gaps identified by the CVA as well as
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whatever uh other materials are
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determined by staff and
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Boards there's also an example of an
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arcgis store story map from the city of
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Shoreline that uses interactive
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storytelling to present information
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Graphics photos definitions City
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projects and Community opportunities to
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learn more we can click on this link if
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you would like to see that
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example I see yeses from the
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crowd thir brief give you idea I don't
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know if folks are familiar with story
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Maps but this is we may
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need okay that it
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is you may just be sharing the
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power
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[Music]
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and here's the example of how a story
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map can be used built this particular
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one from arcj to create maps and
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interactive links to additional fact
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sheets and pictures from the
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community
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please this is again a mockup of a
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school
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flyer it is not
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necessarily uh the
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exact material but it's a graphic that
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is designed
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for middle schoolish aged children
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slightly younger um what we'd like to do
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with these pieces of school information
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is to facilitate youth exposure to the
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conversation while including them in the
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conversation in a age appropriate way in
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a place where there's already structure
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for uh topics that can sometimes be
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difficult to discuss and use
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multilingual family structures whose
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children attend schools to bring
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information from the school through the
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child to the
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family
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um one of the things that I've been
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thinking about is uh using QR codes also
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in order to have especially for older
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students who have technology and who are
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curious about learning more to have
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something that is on a 24 by6 poster but
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they can get access to further
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information next slide
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please and then Community
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signage these are merely examples of
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signs that exist um the entering and
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leaving tsunami Hazard zones are uh on
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Whidby Island in various places as well
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as elsewhere in the United States on the
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west coast Wildfire evacuation routes
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and then I'm sure that folks are
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familiar with the volcano evacuation
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root signages around Mount
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reineer
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um these are merely
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ideas and can also be
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different more stationary uh boards or
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signages for directions to resilience
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hubs once we have physical locations for
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those
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areas and also shared with us some
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education material relating to idle free
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zones so that might be a sign option
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within the community especially around
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schools post offices other places where
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idling is common like Pharmacy
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drive-throughs or
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Banks but this is where we have some
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next steps and questions for you next
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slide please we're going to be
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presenting to the Human Services
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Commission and sending a memo to the
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equity board to gain their insight into
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this topic as well we'll publish the CVA
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report it is current with our
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Communications team and then we'll
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continue developing Communications
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material based on all of that feedback
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slide please what we have for some
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discussion tonight is do you think these
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materials presented in a good way to
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educate the public and what kinds of
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community signage are you interested in
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in your neighborhoods are there other
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materials or strategies that you'd like
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to see employed in the community Andor
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schools or elsewhere to facil itate
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awareness about future climate impacts
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and resources and how do you and your
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neighbors currently get your information
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or what changes would benefit how you
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get your
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information thank
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you like
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uh go ahead so I have a few
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comments um so I I did look at the
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website the shoreline city of Shoreline
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website I think the arj storytelling map
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you know is a great idea um I do think
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the QR code is great too especially for
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high schoolers um for capturing the
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school audience or reaching more ISD you
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know um community members um I think you
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should reach out to the school but
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basically you should reach out to most
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of the ISD schools have green teams and
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some of them are pretty active um uh
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most of the Green Team high high school
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green teams actually post updates you
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know every week or every two weeks on
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Instagram they hold events and they do
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bunch of actually active events with
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students as well as for the community uh
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so you should reach out to them and you
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know um these CVA materials especially
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if you give them the QR codes that would
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be great can actually reach a lot of
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young people um as well as the other way
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I have seen is in ISD newsletters I have
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seen a lot of
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information uh not necessarily just for
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schools but you know impacting the
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communities in ISD pass through um in
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different forms uh so that also may be a
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good way you know to reach out uh to um
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basically publish the information
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regarding your CVA um the other
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questions I did look at the website and
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one of the suggestions I had was uh you
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can also add the shelters information or
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you know the resilience areas as you
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mentioned once available and once
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confirmed um especially for the
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communities which will be more affected
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during you know extreme heat or climate
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events I know King County sends notices
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or text during extreme heat events so
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something like that if you have
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permanent structures available for um
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you know public to access during any
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extreme events they should be listed on
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the website as well um that's all thank
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you
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and very well presented I love the fly I
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love the story map idea I've always been
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big fan of story map making
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it up in front so you can see it um
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comment on your community signage um the
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idea of community signage is great I can
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see Wildfire sign in isqua here possibly
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a flooding sign some flooding down on
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isqua from time to time and then also um
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you have opportunities in this we in the
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Parks especially like where you cross a
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stream or whatnot some C of interpretive
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signage to get into this a little more
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detail for those that want
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stop D go ahead
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okay just reflecting on how I like to
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get up to date and keep informed on on
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City related things I very much enjoy
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the ISA Insider email based
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newsletter and the city does a very nice
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job on that and uh related to that you
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can sign up to be informed of get alerts
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about various andry other things
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relating to
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Community uh events and emergencies Etc
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these are powerful tools it it isn't the
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answer for everyone but it is the answer
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for many and uh so that coupling that
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into the flow of information I mean
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having a website U out there when
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something is added to the city's website
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I mean I don't go look at the city's
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website very often looking well I wonder
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what's new here you know that's not how
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I get informed I get informed by this
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channel of information coming at me and
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then I I choose to investigate further
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by following the links and I think
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that's a very good model to uh follow
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for dissemination of information and and
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reaching people I think if you think
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about those tentacles of of the email
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flow and well then how do we build on
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that to uh connect to people who aren't
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all about the email thing the other
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social social channels uh finding a way
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to actively engage in those other
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channels is uh key too particularly for
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some
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demographics and on the QR code I think
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that's that's a great thing for certain
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U demographic as well I mean it wasn't
20:18
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that long ago when QR codes were
20:20
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strictly a geeky thing but uh it is now
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mainstream and Co has helped us get
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there the of going into a restaurant for
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example and scanning the QR code for the
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menu I mean this is just everybody knows
20:34
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how to do that a few years ago everybody
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didn't know how to do that and so that
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is mainstream now and that's a powerful
20:41
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method uh to help people connect to the
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the the core content which is somewhere
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else for both in terms of uh the email
20:51
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channels as well as um signage it's I
20:57
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guess particularly powerful and the
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signage both signage in terms of in the
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public corridors along trails and
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sidewalks Etc as well as in the school
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and other public
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settings uh that's all thank you thanks
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Tom go to Alex and then
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Nancy yeah thank you for this
21:20
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presentation I really appreciate it and
21:22
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I'm excited to see the final products
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when they start coming out um I agree
21:26
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with everyone that the story map is
21:28
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really great and especially like
21:30
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relative to the city's website it's a
21:33
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lot more interactive and a lot more like
21:35
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I pleasing um on it it's got those it's
21:39
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got the fact sheets um and I really like
21:42
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those because it it presents things much
21:44
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more graphically and I think trying to
21:47
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focus on as little text as possible with
21:51
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eye-catching Graphics to try and
21:52
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communicate as quickly as possible the
21:55
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main points that you're trying to get
21:56
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across and draw people in is going to be
21:58
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really key with any of the tools that we
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use
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um I liked what praj was saying about
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involving the students more than just
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putting Flyers up at the schools um I
22:13
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think that there are great green teams
22:15
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that would take on projects to try and
22:17
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help educate like take the information
22:19
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and distill it to their classmates I
22:21
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think that's a really
22:23
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good way to help get that information
22:25
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and have them take some ownership of it
22:26
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and also have it communicated on a like
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scale that the students would be more
22:30
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interested in um so I'd love to see how
22:33
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we could work more with the schools and
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not just provide them with
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materials
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um I'd also love to have as a um partner
22:49
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that does outreach around these things
22:51
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I'd love to have pre-created materials
22:53
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that I can share either through social
22:54
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media on my website on at events through
22:58
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like a fly one of these flyers that they
23:01
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could scan um or even rocket cards or
23:03
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something that we can give out about
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being you know preparedness
23:07
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opportunities um and how people can
23:09
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learn more information so anything that
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we can create that's like a media
23:13
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toolkit um that can be shipped out to
23:15
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Partners would be really helpful that's
23:16
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really graphic oriented and
23:23
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centered thank you Alex Nancy go ahead
23:27
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so so I don't know if you by the way
23:29
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great presentation before I get started
23:31
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with my questions at one point um Thomas
23:34
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Rush came here and talked to us about
23:35
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how to communicate climate things since
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last year I don't know if you had an
23:39
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opportunity to talk with him at all
23:41
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about your communication strategy but he
23:43
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did receive a bunch of feedback from us
23:45
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on how to communicate things related to
23:47
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climate so I'm going to go over a few of
23:49
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them one of which is that um I'm not
23:53
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sure sending people to the ISA insiders
23:55
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is the only way to do it because a lot a
23:57
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lot of people aren't on that list and
24:00
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not really knowing it so you have a
24:02
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couple of tools that the city has to
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send out regularly one is a utility bill
24:07
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the second one is an annual water
24:09
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quality report that city has to send out
24:11
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the third one is partnering with waste
24:13
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management garbage PSC is putting out a
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regular Bill to most of us some get it
24:18
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electronically but they can add to that
24:20
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too if you work with them in Partnership
24:22
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so my suggestion is for those of us that
24:25
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aren't his technology Savvy that
24:27
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wouldn't be my husband yes um I think it
24:30
↗
would really benefit to use other means
24:33
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than assuming that everybody's checking
24:35
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emails and on the inside or we need to
24:37
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get it the second piece that I would
24:40
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suggest I'm changing topics is we need
24:42
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to get to the chamber we need to get to
24:44
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businesses as well as students and
24:46
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homeowners so without them starting to
24:49
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do more um we're going to be way behind
24:52
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we need to get to the Costco and the big
24:54
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Reis and stuff and get their
24:55
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participation as well um the third thing
24:59
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that I was going to say along this lines
25:02
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remember it is that I just really I
25:05
↗
really appreciate the storyboard but we
25:07
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need to find a way to communicate it and
25:09
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to me the words climate vulnerability
25:13
↗
assessment means nothing but if you talk
25:15
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about climate change you see that in the
25:17
↗
news almost every day you've got to
25:19
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start there if you want information
25:21
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about climate change one piece of it is
25:24
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the vulnerability assessment so we need
25:25
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to get something that drags people to
25:28
↗
whatever website we're using to
25:30
↗
communicate this and I'm not sure those
25:34
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three words climate vulnerability
25:36
↗
assessment is enough to draw me to go
25:37
↗
look and to search this storyboard but
25:40
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if you talk to me about climate change
25:42
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and what is your community doing about
25:44
↗
it I'd go follow that one because i' be
25:46
↗
interest in it so that's just my
25:48
↗
feedback to you I think the name will be
25:51
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hard to get people to click the link and
25:56
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open
25:58
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go ahead thank you you have any question
26:01
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I had a quick follow sure um I I really
26:05
↗
appreciate that feedback and I'm putting
26:09
↗
on spot by asking this question but do
26:10
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you have an idea of what words would get
26:12
↗
you to pull the thread what is your city
26:15
↗
doing about climate change or clim
26:18
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climate change is a word that you've got
26:19
↗
to be using there not vulnerability I
26:22
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mean it is part of what we're doing and
26:24
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it tells us how we're doing and where
26:26
↗
we're the sub the problems but we really
26:29
↗
need to get them because that's what
26:30
↗
people are trying to say I'm buying heat
26:33
↗
pumps I'm buying a green car what else
26:36
↗
can I do and so we need to help them
26:39
↗
with it and I think there's not just the
26:41
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vulnerability assessment but there's all
26:42
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of the other stuff we're trying to get
26:44
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them to do we can get them hooked to
26:46
↗
look at this we might be able to bring
26:48
↗
about more change absolutely I wanted to
26:51
↗
verify the words embedded within your
26:53
↗
feedback are the things that would get
26:55
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you to yeah go forward great thank you
26:58
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so much I think largely we're talking
27:00
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about threats to the community right how
27:01
↗
do we mitigate them and so being able
27:05
↗
to we're trying to talk about well why
27:08
↗
are we talking about
27:10
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this why are we trying to get people pay
27:12
↗
attention and more importantly what's
27:14
↗
the solution to it um uh one thing that
27:18
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I have a note here as we mentioned how
27:20
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can we get the Community Resources and I
27:22
↗
think instead we should think about how
27:24
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are we going to give them resources
27:25
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right what do we find our Sol solutions
27:28
↗
that are tangible that we with our
27:30
↗
knowledge can then hand out right rather
27:32
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than making the citizens say well I
27:34
↗
don't know what to do instead say Hey
27:36
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you know we think composting is a good
27:37
↗
idea here's an event where we're giving
27:39
↗
away composting EVS right as something
27:41
↗
that is a qua done right how can we
27:43
↗
actually get people resources rather
27:45
↗
than trying to say where can we direct
27:46
↗
you it's a slight shift of thinking but
27:48
↗
it kind of puts the onus more on how we
27:51
↗
trying to reach out within our community
27:53
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um and actually enable them to be
27:56
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following through and easy easier way um
27:59
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I think in a similar way unfortunately
28:00
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the factory model in education um uses
28:03
↗
worksheets to teach kids and it's made
28:05
↗
pretty OBS to them when a kid sees a
28:07
↗
piece of paper they're not generally
28:08
↗
even reading through that piece of paper
28:10
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and so the idea that a flyer is going to
28:11
↗
be able to filter down probably pretty
28:13
↗
unlikely when you think about how many
28:15
↗
pieces of paper in a kid sees every day
28:17
↗
right now in an ISD school school
28:19
↗
district um and so instead I um I parent
28:23
↗
what other people have said but I would
28:24
↗
rather see um an involvement with the
28:26
↗
school district of maybe high schoolers
28:28
↗
could be coming into a junior high
28:30
↗
Elementary environment um kids feel
28:33
↗
powerful when they are the teachers
28:35
↗
right when they're learning something
28:36
↗
that they can then teach back and it
28:38
↗
really reinforces the model of
28:40
↗
understanding critical thinking
28:41
↗
component to this rather than just being
28:43
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told it and so I do wish that the
28:45
↗
education could flipped a little bit
28:47
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we've seen it rather than doing a flyer
28:49
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I think it's not going to get the intent
28:51
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that we want but being able to teach a
28:53
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child something that they can teach
28:54
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somebody else you're going to have that
28:56
↗
reverberation of them that having
28:57
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conversations later on in their family
29:00
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and knowing and saying oh I know this
29:02
↗
information rather than I've just been
29:03
↗
told this information um further um
29:06
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we've done a lot of work on a code with
29:09
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our signage if you are able to break
29:11
↗
through and put tags on things I will be
29:13
↗
the first to be so happy that you do
29:16
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we've been advocating to the city to put
29:17
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QR codes on our Parks boards on um
29:21
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signage throughout the city and it's
29:23
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something that for some reason has not
29:25
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been able to alien um a large portion of
29:28
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the Ison population has a smartphone and
29:30
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the fact don't use QR codes um on any
29:33
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signage that we use it's pretty
29:35
↗
ridiculous we've even talked about
29:36
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having safety issues of people trying to
29:38
↗
get Public Notices pulling over to the
29:40
↗
side of the road to understand what's
29:42
↗
going on here and instead a quick snap
29:44
↗
QR code would avoid that doesn't happen
29:47
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if you can figure out why you can break
29:48
↗
through that would be great but it's a
29:51
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it's a way that it should be
29:52
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communicated in every form right when
29:54
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you see a tsunami s or a flooding threat
29:57
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or any anything there should be a QR
29:58
↗
code that can link you then to resources
30:00
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and further information to better
30:02
↗
understand what's going on and I think
30:03
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that part of this is um a perceived
30:05
↗
reality right we're trying to speak to a
30:07
↗
portion of the population that may not
30:09
↗
be in alignment or um have um the
30:12
↗
knowledge based to say yes I agree with
30:15
↗
all these things right so there is a
30:16
↗
component of needing to educate and to
30:18
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say this is actively happening and this
30:20
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is how we know it's happening to help
30:22
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kind of bring people around to have a
30:23
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better understanding of it um maybe
30:26
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that's bringing presenters and doing Ted
30:28
↗
style talks right at community centers
30:30
↗
or things like that I think there's an
30:31
↗
education component where we can
30:33
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communicate this information in a way
30:35
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that feels um more collaborative with
30:38
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the community um and again we've talked
30:40
↗
a lot about things like kiosks um and
30:43
↗
the use of neighborhoods as um focal
30:46
↗
points for being able to reach
30:48
↗
microcosms within the city and so there
30:50
↗
should be there's places like for
30:52
↗
instance the highlands right where it
30:53
↗
would be easier to be able to post a tag
30:55
↗
to post a flyer in Community kiosks um
30:59
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and so examining where in our code do we
31:01
↗
allow this and being able to kind of
31:03
↗
push the administration to say we've
31:05
↗
allowed for this signage code so let's
31:07
↗
actually enact it because we want to use
31:09
↗
this tool and being able to kind of use
31:11
↗
the resources that we know we've built
31:12
↗
in but don't
31:14
↗
necessarily exist but can't
31:19
↗
sense oh I'm sorry one more thing I
31:21
↗
didn't see any mention of Partnerships
31:23
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um and I wanted to pair with someone
31:24
↗
else said um don't follow me tribe
31:26
↗
businesses Builder
31:27
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um to help with Outreach right to better
31:29
↗
understand even um Builders can be a
31:33
↗
huge resource right now saying like why
31:34
↗
does why does Green Space exist in this
31:36
↗
building right being able to say why is
31:38
↗
it that we have um an infrastructure
31:40
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plan that we do because it contributes
31:42
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to clean water clean air right different
31:44
↗
things that we' um enacted into our code
31:47
↗
we can better communicate why they exist
31:49
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in the built environment to the people
31:54
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use and go
31:56
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ahead
32:00
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oh can't hear you
32:08
↗
muted sorry I have two things to unmute
32:10
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and so I have to remember that um great
32:14
↗
conversation great presentation just a
32:17
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short little thing to um and my idea
32:21
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might be too long but loved what Nancy
32:22
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said about how to communicate and um who
32:26
↗
to communicate with I was just thinking
32:29
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maybe this would be a good way to draw
32:31
↗
people in what is our city doing to keep
32:33
↗
us safe from the effects of climate
32:37
↗
change but that might be too long so I
32:40
↗
just wanted to toss that out there in
32:41
↗
case you like
32:49
↗
it oh um I I had a
32:53
↗
question from staff J what what does
32:57
↗
success look like from this like what
32:59
↗
what is the key message or messages that
33:01
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we think people need to come out of this
33:03
↗
communication about the climate
33:05
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vulnerability assessment what do we want
33:06
↗
them understand or know or
33:15
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react I think that what success looks
33:19
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like
33:21
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is parness as a sliver of resilience
33:27
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within the community
33:29
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and 100% coverage of all of the
33:33
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neighbors including those who come from
33:36
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vulnerable
33:37
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populations including our UNH house
33:41
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neighbors
33:43
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immigrants Etc
33:47
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and to track that is extremely hard to
33:51
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have any kind of uh measurable trackable
33:54
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followup would be extremely hard
34:00
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but in so much as maybe we don't know we
34:04
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get a 100% coverage the attempt of 100%
34:08
↗
coverage is what success looks like
34:12
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for I understand what the
34:14
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vulnerabilities are to my community and
34:16
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I am prepared to meet each of those
34:21
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vulnerabilities yeah I think you said
34:23
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that well I was just going to say I
34:26
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think we want the community all of the
34:28
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community especially those most at risk
34:30
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to understand the impacts I think a lot
34:32
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of our community doesn't even think
34:34
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about wildfire and that is a true risk
34:37
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now um and to know to have access to the
34:41
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resources and know um what they can do
34:44
↗
to be prepared and where they can go to
34:46
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be um and I think that's a and I think
34:49
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with the communication materials what
34:51
↗
Kathleen's been really careful about and
34:52
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what we will be going forward is not not
34:55
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to create fear but but to just build
34:58
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that awareness and provide the resources
35:00
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that folks know um what to do and what
35:02
↗
action they can take and do it in a way
35:04
↗
that's not um igniting fear but instead
35:08
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just a
35:10
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self-sufficiency just put out a Citywide
35:13
↗
survey anually we do every two years um
35:17
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do a community survey that might be a
35:20
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way to get a metric yeah some of the
35:23
↗
questions that mention add those to the
35:26
↗
survey
35:29
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yeah yeah that's great we do have a
35:32
↗
couple of sustainability questions that
35:33
↗
are in that survey I think with now the
35:36
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completion of the vulnerability
35:38
↗
assessment would be a good time to add
35:39
↗
that in and that'll go out next
35:42
↗
year yeah it's a
35:44
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great that's 2025 2025 I believe I think
35:48
↗
they did in 2023 came
35:51
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out um I haven't finished um so I um the
35:57
↗
reason I asked that question is because
35:58
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I think that like climate vulnerability
36:00
↗
assessment how you communicate to the
36:01
↗
public could take different forms like
36:05
↗
it's one the city is doing something to
36:07
↗
to understand these impacts there's the
36:10
↗
people that this is going most directly
36:11
↗
impact this is how we're going to help
36:13
↗
you in this case so I think we need to
36:14
↗
think about the different levels of
36:16
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communication we're going to have with
36:17
↗
this like there's some communities that
36:19
↗
are going to see direct impacts that
36:21
↗
we've identified in this report we
36:23
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should be thinking about how do we
36:25
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communicate those risks and the
36:27
↗
solutions to them and that seems like
36:29
↗
the base level like we have to do that
36:32
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that's like the number one priority
36:34
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coming out of this is the most at risk
36:36
↗
groups how are they aware of the risks
36:38
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that they're going to be facing and the
36:39
↗
resources that they have I think more
36:41
↗
generally in what our resources maybe
36:44
↗
feel more focused on right now is
36:46
↗
general education which while it's
36:48
↗
important that I think I'm not sure it's
36:52
↗
the right first step or the right
36:54
↗
priority for based on what you're saying
36:56
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that all of the most at risk people I
36:58
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mean everyone we want everyone to aware
37:00
↗
but especially the most at risk people I
37:01
↗
don't see that in the current plan of
37:04
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like this is how we're going to Target
37:06
↗
the unhoused or whoever else we like go
37:08
↗
through the climate vulnerability
37:09
↗
assessment who is most at risk based on
37:11
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the risk we've seen how are we
37:12
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communicating to them that would be the
37:14
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first thing that I would do um and then
37:17
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I think climate vulnerability I agree
37:19
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with with nany that that word and just
37:22
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that General framing isn't going to work
37:24
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for people and even I'm not even sure
37:26
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climate change is like I'm not that's
37:29
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not going to resonate with everyone so I
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think how we communicate this and I
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don't have the answer but is going to be
37:34
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really delicate I think we the one thing
37:37
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I know is that climate vulnerability
37:38
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assessment is probably not the right
37:40
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term um but how you communicate the
37:43
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risks that they're going to be facing
37:45
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because I think a lot of people are just
37:46
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me like what's the punchline what do I
37:48
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need to know how's this going to impact
37:49
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me and what are the resources that I
37:51
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have um so I think someone being able to
37:54
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get that information and then if they
37:56
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want to dive deeper on like what the
37:57
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wise and what climate change impacts
38:00
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they're going to see and why those
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impacts are occurring um that that's at
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least how I would think about it is like
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the Baseline how do you communicate the
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facts the the impacts to them and then
38:11
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give people options to educate but um it
38:14
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just seems like if if there's too much
38:17
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packaging about climate change around
38:18
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this that you might miss some of your
38:20
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audience that really need to hear about
38:22
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this so um I think that just general
38:24
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messaging and how you're getting getting
38:26
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in touch with the people most at risk
38:28
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are the two areas that that seem like
38:30
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maybe more attention could be paid um to
38:35
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so but yeah overall I think some of the
38:37
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other things are nice but I'm not sure
38:39
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we've address them the biggest potential
38:42
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population risk populations or at least
38:44
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identify with those are so we know that
38:46
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we're targeting
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them
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ex
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um this is like a really interesting
38:53
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thing to be thinking about so um I think
38:56
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think it's probably important to really
38:57
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think about the old you guys kind of
38:59
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talked about that but like in the flyer
39:01
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for example it actually as I was reading
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I like I actually you know I I don't
39:06
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know that it's actually a bad thing to
39:09
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be honest if the if the assessment says
39:12
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we're in danger then I don't know if we
39:14
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should sure code it I think we do that a
39:16
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lot in um sustainability stuff like you
39:19
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know so people don't really realize the
39:21
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threat is actually much closer than um
39:24
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you know they like to think well it's
39:25
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not going to happen in my life Lifetime
39:27
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well that's probably not the way it is
39:29
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so
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um for whatever that's worth I know
39:34
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we're talking about children but um you
39:37
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know they're the ones that are have to
39:38
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deal with this the most so I think maybe
39:40
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it's important to be a little bit real
39:41
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with what the results say um and then um
39:44
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the Flyers to the flyer point it it
39:46
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feels a little like you know here we're
39:48
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telling them to protect climate change
39:50
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and then we're printing things so if we
39:51
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can avoid that I think that maybe makes
39:53
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sense right to to show that like we are
39:56
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just here's what we believe in and you
39:58
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know here's some solutions although I do
40:00
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understand the purposes to help Reach
40:02
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people who maybe don't have access to
40:03
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phones and things like that um and then
40:06
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uh just a thought was you know um when
40:09
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was it in the 80s neighborhood watch
40:10
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groups were really popular at one point
40:13
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um why not I know it would be a very big
40:16
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um undertaking but why not start
40:19
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creating the idea that if we if we know
40:21
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where these challenged areas are going
40:23
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to be you know there's a lot of data
40:26
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available and there's probably apps that
40:27
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would do the same thing of creating kind
40:29
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of um like almost like a neighborhood
40:31
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tree so that people start like realizing
40:34
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like because some people will be more in
40:36
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every Community there's always somebody
40:37
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who's really into it and some that
40:38
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aren't and they can help kind of bridge
40:40
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the gap that I just don't think like a
40:42
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website does for the people we're trying
40:44
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to reach which is the best way to reach
40:46
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them is say hey neighbor did you know
40:48
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that we are at risk for
40:50
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Wildfire and here's what we're going to
40:52
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do here's the plan and we just want you
40:53
↗
to know what the plan is like that's a
40:55
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like a simp it's a big project but
40:57
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Simple
40:58
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Solution in some ways so and then I
41:01
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think social media is a great strategy
41:03
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it's what everybody's using um and it's
41:06
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a it can be a really easy strategy you
41:07
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can literally make all of your posts you
41:09
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can make 365 posts and just keep
41:11
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regurgitating them all the time schedule
41:13
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them and they just keep posting um so at
41:16
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least it's out
41:21
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there see joy we do need to wrap this
41:24
↗
topic so if there's anything quick
41:27
↗
umly can't do longer quick quickly I'll
41:30
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um tear out what Dixie is saying is that
41:32
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um the best way you're going to reach
41:33
↗
vulnerable populations and I did not get
41:35
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that at all from the presentation that
41:37
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that was a priority Target um the best
41:39
↗
way to do that is through Word of Mouth
41:41
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um and you asked how do community talk
41:44
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and a way to do that is basically have
41:46
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put park benches in places that we know
41:48
↗
people are piing bus stops being able to
41:51
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uh create spaces people are talking um
41:54
↗
and then being a all those park benches
41:57
↗
right that are queuing oh hey here's
41:59
↗
information about how many plastic
42:00
↗
bottles we used to make this bench right
42:02
↗
there's a lot of different ways that we
42:03
↗
can create spaces to enable more
42:06
↗
interaction and human interaction we
42:07
↗
used to actually have people who would
42:10
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who work for the city of Isa who would
42:11
↗
be in every single neighborhood would
42:12
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create these networks like the watch and
42:14
↗
the administration chose to do away with
42:17
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them and we called for them many times
42:19
↗
to come back and the best way to do it
42:20
↗
again is on a neighborhood level within
42:22
↗
Isa and to be able to advocate for how
42:25
↗
do we rebuild that infrastructure that
42:27
↗
we actually already used to have so that
42:29
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people are having direct dialogue with
42:31
↗
their neighbors about hey when there is
42:33
↗
flooding here's the best way that we
42:34
↗
know to help this person who has maybe
42:36
↗
mobility issues and this person who has
42:38
↗
these other challenges is the people who
42:40
↗
are living next door to them and so
42:41
↗
that's really your goals you need to how
42:43
↗
are these people actually coming
42:44
↗
together
42:47
↗
facilitating
42:50
↗
um out all right I think that's all of
42:52
↗
our comments um any final thoughts for
42:55
↗
us in
42:59
↗
Stacy no I think we'll take the feedback
43:02
↗
um probably sit down with our
43:03
↗
Communications team emergency manager
43:05
↗
and then as Kathleen mentioned we are
43:07
↗
going to be talking with the Human
43:08
↗
Services Commission in a couple of weeks
43:10
↗
and so we'll really focus that
43:11
↗
conversation on reaching how do we most
43:13
↗
reach best reach those
43:16
↗
populations great well with that we will
43:18
↗
move on to our next agenda topic the
43:20
↗
2022 greenhouse gas emissions in Detroit
43:23
↗
Jamie um real quick sorry to interrupt
43:25
↗
we did have two additional members of
43:27
↗
the public
43:29
↗
join okay if we check in rather they're
43:32
↗
okay hi an fetcher and Dave nice to see
43:34
↗
you just wanted to check in and see if
43:36
↗
you all were hoping to make public
43:38
↗
comment tonight or if you're just
43:44
↗
listening if you are able to
43:49
↗
unmute if you're having any trouble uh
43:52
↗
unmuting please go ahead and send me a
43:54
↗
chat if you would like to make public
43:56
↗
comment or you can send me an
44:04
↗
email well it's nice to be back um I was
44:08
↗
gone for a few months but uh from the
44:10
↗
board but I'm thr to be back and I'll be
44:13
↗
joining y'all uh moving forward um so
44:16
↗
tonight uh I get to to join y'all to
44:19
↗
talk about the
44:20
↗
20122 greenhouse gas inventory
44:23
↗
report um throughout the presentation uh
44:28
↗
I would say feel free to ask questions
44:31
↗
as we go um there's a lot of details a
44:34
↗
lot of numbers and a lot of um uh really
44:37
↗
specific items that we can dig into so
44:40
↗
um recognizing we're going to cover a
44:43
↗
lot uh feel free to ask questions as we
44:45
↗
go and um just flag my attention if I uh
44:50
↗
is any
44:52
↗
questions so uh the goal of the
44:55
↗
presentation today is to share the
44:57
↗
results of our 2022 CommunityWide and
45:00
↗
government operations greenhouse gas
45:03
↗
inventory um as well as to seek uh
45:06
↗
recommendations from the environmental
45:08
↗
board on how staff uh should best bring
45:12
↗
this material to uh city council um we
45:15
↗
are scheduled to go before City Council
45:17
↗
in early February to present this
45:19
↗
information um and we would love some
45:22
↗
feedback and um recommendations on uh
45:25
↗
Focus
45:26
↗
and um ways to to best present this
45:31
↗
information so as a quick background on
45:35
↗
greenhouse gas inventories uh they're
45:37
↗
generally used to calculate quantify and
45:40
↗
assess uh Community Associated and
45:42
↗
government Associated greenhouse gas
45:44
↗
emissions uh and their sources they've
45:47
↗
been around for a long time um however
45:50
↗
the methodology continues to change and
45:52
↗
evolve over over time as we learn more
45:55
↗
about our emissions as we learn more
45:58
↗
about how to track different sources of
46:01
↗
emissions and how to um uh apply
46:04
↗
emissions to different uh communities so
46:08
↗
they've been around for a little while
46:10
↗
we have completed uh We've we completed
46:13
↗
our 2022 greenhouse gas inventory to
46:16
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determine our current sources of
46:18
↗
greenhouse gas emissions um as a point
46:20
↗
in time understanding of where our
46:22
↗
emissions are really coming
46:24
↗
from uh as well as review some Trends
46:27
↗
around where uh how we're doing compared
46:31
↗
to previous years um around some of our
46:34
↗
emissions to help identify policies
46:37
↗
programs um uh and actions that we can
46:42
↗
take to uh address our greenhouse gas
46:46
↗
emissions
46:48
↗
so just kind of highlighting some
46:52
↗
items knowing that we've done greenhouse
46:54
↗
gas inventories for for a while um and
46:57
↗
these have been done uh across the
47:00
↗
International Community there are a few
47:02
↗
things that we knew going into this
47:04
↗
right we knew that some of the largest
47:06
↗
sources of greenhouse gas emissions come
47:08
↗
from our built environment and they come
47:10
↗
from transportation and you'll see uh
47:13
↗
through the results that that is what
47:15
↗
our emissions inventory has shown so our
47:18
↗
our inventory from 2022 provides us a
47:21
↗
lot of specific information that we can
47:23
↗
run with um but luckily in a lot of ways
47:26
↗
we're not starting from um zero here and
47:30
↗
we already have some programs in place
47:32
↗
and we're already kind of thinking about
47:33
↗
how we can best address uh emissions
47:35
↗
from some of these
47:37
↗
sources I also have a picture there's
47:39
↗
emissions associated with our Solid
47:40
↗
Waste Disposal there's emissions
47:42
↗
associated with refrigerant use and um
47:46
↗
losses of emissions from um transporting
47:49
↗
energy from place to place so there's a
47:51
↗
a whole um complex set of how we uh
47:55
↗
think about those emissions we can go
47:58
↗
into any more detail on uh the specifics
48:01
↗
of how emissions inventories are done um
48:04
↗
as uh as
48:08
↗
necessary so the 2022 greenhouse gas
48:11
↗
inventory process uh we partnered with
48:14
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uh we joined the uh we did this in
48:18
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partnership with the Eide climate
48:19
↗
partnership cities of Belleview Redmond
48:21
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Kirkland and Mercer Island uh we wanted
48:24
↗
to do a regional ventory uh efforts to
48:27
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make sure that each of our City's
48:29
↗
inventories were aligned in their
48:30
↗
methodology to make sure that um we
48:33
↗
could uh work through this process
48:36
↗
together and then also uh ideally to um
48:40
↗
find efficiencies in scale working
48:42
↗
together we could uh improve uh the
48:45
↗
process and hopefully reduce cost to
48:46
↗
doing these inventories for us at the
48:48
↗
city we contracted with Cascadia
48:51
↗
Consulting between July and December
48:53
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2023 to do this inventory
48:56
↗
um and Cascadia Consulting uh has done a
48:59
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lot of inventories including uh the 2020
49:03
↗
2019 uh Regional inventory for King
49:07
↗
County the inventories were completed in
49:10
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compliance with iiy best practices for
49:13
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CommunityWide and government operations
49:15
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inventories and iiy local governments
49:17
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for sustainability is um a a great
49:21
↗
organization that has some uh tools uh
49:25
↗
that can help you um do the the
49:27
↗
emissions calculations um and generally
49:30
↗
is is well respected as a good standard
49:32
↗
for these missions
49:35
↗
inventories the results of the 2022
49:38
↗
greenhouse gas inventory represent both
49:40
↗
the fifth CommunityWide greenhouse gas
49:42
↗
inventory that the city has done as well
49:44
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as the first uh ever government
49:46
↗
operations
49:47
↗
inventory and it directly Associates
49:50
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with icap action uh 2.1 I wrote
49:54
↗
completed on this although this is you
49:57
↗
know an ongoing process this is we're
49:59
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going to be doing more greenhouse gas
50:00
↗
inventories as we move forward to
50:02
↗
continue to track where we're at uh and
50:04
↗
the impacts of our
50:09
↗
actions so diving into the results uh
50:13
↗
this is a pie chart of our uh
50:15
↗
CommunityWide greenhouse gas
50:18
↗
emissions um and what we can really see
50:22
↗
here in the orange yellow uh is the
50:28
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that's the the biggest source of our
50:29
↗
emissions and that is our uh built
50:32
↗
environment then the purple is our
50:35
↗
transportation
50:37
↗
emissions and these emissions are
50:40
↗
roughly in line with uh the the percent
50:44
↗
of our emissions that come from the
50:45
↗
built environment and from
50:47
↗
Transportation um as our largest sources
50:49
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really is in line with uh previous
50:51
↗
inventories 2019 and 17 yeah just a
50:54
↗
quick question so this is isqua specific
50:56
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or is it all the partnership specific so
50:59
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this is isqua specific
51:01
↗
yes yeah so each City worked together to
51:05
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develop the inventories but each City
51:06
↗
got their own
51:07
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inventory so um one of the benefits of
51:11
↗
that is that we can compare ourselves to
51:14
↗
our uh uh our neighboring cities and so
51:18
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we have the equivalent of 10.5 metric
51:21
↗
tons of carbon uh CO2 equivalent
51:24
↗
emissions per capita uh and that is
51:27
↗
roughly in line with other cities it's a
51:29
↗
little bit higher than a few cities and
51:31
↗
a little bit lower than others um but
51:33
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they're all it's all roughly in that
51:35
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that
51:36
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area and again our largest uh emission
51:39
↗
sources are from the built environment
51:40
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and
51:41
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transportation um with uh still a
51:44
↗
significant amount from refrigerants and
51:46
↗
landfill and the refrigerants number has
51:48
↗
been increasing a little bit I would
51:50
↗
note and um that uh might be from better
51:55
↗
tracking tools and better um ability to
51:59
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measure that so there's a little bit of
52:03
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um we still need to be diving into that
52:05
↗
a little bit more but again this does
52:08
↗
highlight that our our uh focus is
52:10
↗
really on that electricity that natural
52:12
↗
gas and um Vehicles as well um so
52:16
↗
there's a few questions here so the
52:18
↗
program which was used by cdia
52:20
↗
Consulting uh equally right so that is
52:23
↗
that a standard industry practice
52:26
↗
nationally or is it more local yeah so
52:29
↗
iiy is an organization that has this
52:31
↗
tool called clear path and clear path is
52:35
↗
a national and I think even
52:36
↗
internationally used tool right I think
52:38
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CDP has produced it okay um C I'm not
52:42
↗
familiar with CDP but it is um it's a
52:45
↗
generally accepted tool internationally
52:48
↗
to do a lot of these greenhouse gas
52:50
↗
inventories and so for this particular
52:52
↗
analysis right I'm guessing you just
52:54
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provided the them the raw data or
52:56
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whatever numbers you had and then they
53:00
↗
played with it essentially right and
53:02
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then they gave you this analysis so is
53:05
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there a margin of error or you know um
53:08
↗
like how accurate is the data I mean
53:10
↗
this looks great the goals are pretty
53:14
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you know impressive you know trying to
53:16
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cut down 50% and this is good and I'm
53:18
↗
pretty sure we are making an effort but
53:21
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I when I look at this chart I always
53:23
↗
wonder you know what is really the
53:25
↗
margin of or accuracy of the data yeah
53:28
↗
so I would say uh so the way Cascadia
53:31
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was able to do this um we actually only
53:33
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really provided uh the municipal
53:36
↗
operations the government operations
53:38
↗
data the CommunityWide data Cascadia
53:41
↗
Consulting used a number of different uh
53:44
↗
tools and methods uh that are done that
53:47
↗
are created at National Regional local
53:51
↗
levels so for
53:52
↗
instance um for electricity data they
53:55
↗
were able to go to psse and get
53:58
↗
information on the emission sources or
54:02
↗
the the carbon intensity of the
54:04
↗
electricity of um Puget Sound Energy's
54:07
↗
electric mix they were able to get an
54:10
↗
understanding of how much natural gas is
54:11
↗
actually going to the different
54:13
↗
communities when you get to things like
54:15
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on-road Vehicles public transit those
54:18
↗
are more um there are a number of
54:21
↗
different models that can help uh a city
54:24
↗
or region understands uh what the
54:28
↗
emissions are so for our vehicles
54:30
↗
on-road vehicles uh Cascade used the
54:33
↗
Puget Sound Regional Council uh model
54:37
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which is built off of a number of
54:39
↗
different models and and inputs that go
54:41
↗
into that that kind of spits out a a
54:44
↗
vehicle miles travels amount for our
54:47
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city so some of the data is a little bit
54:51
↗
more specific than others and some of
54:53
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the data there's a number of these
54:54
↗
different
54:55
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um models that have been put together
54:58
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and embeded and tried and uh in many
55:01
↗
iterations to kind of figure out what's
55:03
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the best way to to measure some of this
55:07
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and that's kind of one of the items that
55:09
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I alluded to with methodology changing
55:11
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right so you know the psrc pugan
55:14
↗
Regional Council VMT model is the best
55:17
↗
model we currently have but that model
55:19
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could be improved as time goes on as we
55:21
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figure out how to better track um
55:24
↗
vehicle emission right um so those
55:27
↗
methods will continue to change as we
55:30
↗
figure that out does that help answer
55:32
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the question
55:34
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thanks we do have question
55:39
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wonderful hey thanks great work David
55:43
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and um so I also am wondering how they
55:48
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got the vehicle miles traveled uh data
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and it's just for people living in isqua
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correct not people who drive through I
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believe it actually does include folks
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who come through on I90 and and come
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through the city so those are emissions
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within the city of isqua I see okay and
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I I will confirm that but I I believe
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that's the case so maybe they're
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counting Vehicles over a certain period
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of time then as they go
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through that include the emissions
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associated with the vehicle miles travel
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that come through the city of Miss or
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that that occur within the city of Miss
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I think Ann's asking is there a direct
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measurement or is it all based on the
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model oh I apologize yes so it's all
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based on for for the CommunityWide it is
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all based on the model as we get to you
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know our own government operations
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inventory you'll see we have specific
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numbers there but um these this is all
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based on the
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model cool uh and so I know this is not
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the full report um
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and it would be kind of fun to see the
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full report is that something that you
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guys are allowed to share out or is it
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confidential it is not confidential um
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attached to the board packet I believe
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um was the report that we've developed
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so far um so we can continue to to build
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on that um as we would like um but that
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report does include um the data that we
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have
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okay cool I must have missed that
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link awesome thank you so much sure that
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you have it at the end of this
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meeting cool and I have one more thing
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to say but I can wait until we get to
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that part if that works better
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sure you
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think like because we're not basing
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anything on Direct measurement I'm
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guessing not only for VMT but also for
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the like the like the I even know the
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carbon intensity of those miles traveled
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is that also based on a
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Model I believe that also goes into the
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model um there's
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model my understanding is that the
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output from the model helps understand
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vehicle miles traveled and then the in
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the entry into clear path they use
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um percent understandings of different
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types of vehicles that are on the road
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in carbon in densities of is that miles
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is that General like types of vehicles
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or how how are they for isqua versus
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Kirkland is there any differentiate are
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they just using the same assumptions
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within the the communities I believe
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it's regional here for ISO there is a
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specific model that's more specific for
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Kirkland bellw and Rond so for those
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three cities cascad was able to use a
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much more specific model ours is more
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Regional yeah I guess I guess my con
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concern here is that BMT anything that's
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based on a Model our our actual Behavior
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change won't necessarily be captured by
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that model because like we're not
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directly measuring difference in vehicle
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miles travel is my understanding of the
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methodology here so if we like if isquad
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does something different than Kirkland
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that does something different than
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Redmond we're all just kind of getting
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averag into the same model so it's very
59:20
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difficult to discern like what actual
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changes are occurring because you're
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only
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a basis in a model and no direct
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measurement means that you can't
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actually tell whether there's been a
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change um so that that's my that's one
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of my concerns I think the other
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similarly on the types of vehicles like
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a great example being like if we can
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successfully Drive adoption of EVS is
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that going to be factored into future
59:44
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updates because it doesn't seem like our
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actual Isa specific vehicle mix has been
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directly measured and applied into the
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model so I'm just worried that like some
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of the biggest inputs for the model or
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for the for our pie chart here aren't
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actually being directly measured and
1:00:00
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like are going to be difficult to
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actually show whether we're making
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progress against because they're all
1:00:06
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model based so I think that's maybe
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separate from the results here but that
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that that's one concern based on how
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this is being described um and I don't
1:00:16
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know if on the electric electricity
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natural gas are we
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using actual usage for within the city I
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believe PSC did provide actual usage for
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U Broken Out by cities okay so it seems
1:00:31
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like that onroad Vehicles is the main
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section that
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has kind of an indirect measurement so
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yeah just something to keep in mind I do
1:00:40
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think that that feels like it's going to
1:00:42
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be difficult to measure change or like
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how isqua might perform
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um so yeah I think that's a great point
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and um that is something that we can I
1:00:55
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can get more detail on that
1:00:57
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specific petown Regional Council model
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to provide if that's helpful and then
1:01:02
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also just thinking about you know moving
1:01:05
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forward as we address this um my hope
1:01:08
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would be we develop better models and
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systems for being able to better uh
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actually uh understand what's happening
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more locally this is fairly Regional so
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or or this is fairly localized to the
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region so it does reflect pretty well
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what's actually going on here in isqua
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since yes we're doing things a little
1:01:31
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different than our neighboring cities
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but you know EV adoption in ISO is not
1:01:35
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going to be dramatically different than
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than our neighboring cities for instance
1:01:39
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so um I would say I have okay confidence
1:01:43
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in in that model for for where we're at
1:01:46
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at least in the
1:01:47
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methodology build on what Jamie's saying
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so the only thing we really have control
1:01:53
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over that we can show that we're making
1:01:55
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a difference is our electricity and
1:01:57
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natur natural gas because we're rolled
1:02:00
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in on the vehicle piece with other
1:02:02
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communities and it's not actually
1:02:04
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measuring trucks driving through here
1:02:07
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and other things and so really the only
1:02:10
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Greenhouse emissions that we can
1:02:12
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potentially show in the community that
1:02:14
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we are improving
1:02:16
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on is our built environment use not
1:02:21
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necessarily the vehicles because we're
1:02:22
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averaged we're in with everyone else and
1:02:25
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I guess my comment is that really needs
1:02:27
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to show up in the presentation as a
1:02:29
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specific item or a specific slide
1:02:32
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because I suspect that if we measure
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this in five years our on our vehicle
1:02:38
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use won't change much because we're in
1:02:40
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an average with other communities so we
1:02:43
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really should be tracking what we're
1:02:45
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doing on the electricity
1:02:48
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natured just a suggestion to add another
1:02:51
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slide to at least clarify that so people
1:02:53
↗
see that yeah I can I can look to to do
1:02:57
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that and I would clarify that the
1:03:00
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vehicle model is specific to is or the
1:03:04
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the model is a regional model the
1:03:06
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numbers here are specific for isqua
1:03:09
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based on geography and where the what
1:03:12
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the vehicle miles are within our
1:03:14
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geography how many are EVs and how many
1:03:17
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of them are gas power you know I don't
1:03:20
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think you're seeing
1:03:22
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that you made it to first traffic yes
1:03:26
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you get all these
1:03:28
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questions I would encourage you to
1:03:31
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understand the
1:03:32
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model in detail and be prepared to
1:03:35
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explain it up front you might even want
1:03:37
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to have a slide right off the Geto
1:03:39
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here's the model here's how it works
1:03:40
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here's how here's the region that it
1:03:42
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looks at here's how they analyze things
1:03:45
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um you put this in house get the same
1:03:48
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question here they're going to tear this
1:03:50
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down until they understand the model
1:03:52
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behind this um and then like the the
1:03:55
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vehicles for instance I me I'm really
1:03:57
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curious how much of that 37% is I90
1:04:01
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versus vehicles that are running around
1:04:03
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in town what can we change what is effed
1:04:07
↗
out there and then on even on the
1:04:08
↗
electricity and natural gas I'm not
1:04:10
↗
convinced that that is specific for
1:04:12
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isqua I think that's an average from PSC
1:04:16
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on average kilowatts
1:04:18
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used times the number of homes times the
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number I don't
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know
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I I really want to better understand
1:04:28
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sure David just one more comment also
1:04:31
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the refrigerant data also here might be
1:04:34
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kind of generic because I'm guessing
1:04:37
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they might have just calculated you know
1:04:39
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the input and output based on the
1:04:43
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refrigeration model assuming you know in
1:04:46
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each household or something um my that's
1:04:50
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just my guess based on the ghg
1:04:52
↗
accounting which I have done previously
1:04:55
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unless you have specific data for the
1:04:58
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refrigerator for each household you know
1:05:01
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beginning versus the end period um you
1:05:04
↗
can use the type of the refrigerator you
1:05:06
↗
have and you basically spit out based on
1:05:09
↗
the model what the numbers are so they
1:05:11
↗
might not be accurate as well um to an's
1:05:15
↗
comment I did look at the report which
1:05:17
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was attach with the email and I was
1:05:20
↗
curious to see actually the raw data and
1:05:22
↗
again if if you are able to share it
1:05:24
↗
with us I was just curious how the model
1:05:26
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was handling the raw data um and I
1:05:29
↗
didn't see any raw data means I did see
1:05:31
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some tables and charts but again you
1:05:34
↗
know this is what I was also interested
1:05:36
↗
so if you can share it um and if you
1:05:39
↗
don't have time if you can just share it
1:05:40
↗
in email if it's possible I just would
1:05:43
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like to look at it as well yeah as as we
1:05:46
↗
have time at the end I'm happy I have a
1:05:47
↗
number of different data and not just
1:05:50
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today I'm just asking if whenever if you
1:05:52
↗
are okay to share it L
1:05:56
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sure on the note of what Don was saying
1:05:59
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I do think one thing to think about is
1:06:02
↗
is this the right first slide like to
1:06:07
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the the SEC the next slide or maybe it's
1:06:11
↗
two slides from now like I think the
1:06:13
↗
punchline of like where our missions
1:06:15
↗
going might be the right first slide and
1:06:17
↗
then I do like one of the things that I
1:06:20
↗
struggle with all of the slides put
1:06:22
↗
together is like and sent you a few
1:06:24
↗
notes on this it's just like how are we
1:06:26
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doing and where are the where are we
1:06:29
↗
seeing changes and I think what Don
1:06:31
↗
mentioned around how is that in the
1:06:34
↗
addressable portion of emissions versus
1:06:36
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the not addressable part is really what
1:06:38
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I like it in my mind the progression is
1:06:41
↗
what is overall what are overall
1:06:43
↗
missions doing what are the categories
1:06:45
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there within those categories what's
1:06:47
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addressable then what is the trend in
1:06:49
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the addressable emissions within those
1:06:52
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categories is I I think what based on
1:06:56
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some of your responses which were very
1:06:57
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helpful it seems like our actually like
1:07:01
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isqua impacted direct like emissions are
1:07:06
↗
are not not where the decreas is coming
1:07:08
↗
from most of the decrease is coming from
1:07:10
↗
changes in PS the carbon intensity of
1:07:13
↗
the electricity makes so that would be
1:07:17
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super like that to me is really really
1:07:20
↗
important to understand that like all of
1:07:23
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the decreases we're seeing or a very
1:07:24
↗
large portion of the decrease we're
1:07:26
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seeing is related to psse changes we're
1:07:29
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still and of course this is like
1:07:32
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basically we didn't have a IAP for most
1:07:34
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of like leadup to this so wouldn't
1:07:36
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expect it necessarily but I think that's
1:07:38
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a good like that's a baseline that
1:07:40
↗
people need to understand like that's
1:07:42
↗
the punchline that I think people need
1:07:43
↗
to understand it's really hard to get
1:07:45
↗
out of the current presentation so those
1:07:48
↗
are some ideas on how you might
1:07:50
↗
structure this differently and I I know
1:07:52
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the addressable part is probably not
1:07:55
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might not have been a part of how cascad
1:07:57
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approached as I do think it's an
1:07:58
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important consideration as think about
1:08:01
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the like the update of IAP as well like
1:08:04
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we ultimately need to be able to like
1:08:06
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the most important thing we can do is
1:08:07
↗
measure the things that we can actually
1:08:08
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impact like obviously we want to know
1:08:10
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the overall story but like how are we
1:08:12
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doing on the things that we can actually
1:08:13
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impact it there's some way it might be
1:08:16
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already in what they've done to pull
1:08:19
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that out and and kind of give some light
1:08:21
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to that that would be super super
1:08:23
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helpful because I think right now it's
1:08:25
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good that the missions went down but
1:08:27
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it's like challenging to understand why
1:08:30
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and the how are we doing question um
1:08:33
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like as it relates to what what we're
1:08:34
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trying to do here which is reduce within
1:08:37
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isqua's controllable things what
1:08:45
↗
can yeah I think there's a lot we can do
1:08:48
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to dig more into the um methodology and
1:08:51
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models and share that information I just
1:08:54
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do want the board to think about that
1:08:56
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the greenhouse gas inventories they are
1:08:59
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not in exact science they're based on
1:09:01
↗
what is available at the time we were
1:09:03
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getting data up till we're still waiting
1:09:05
↗
on a little bit of data it takes a long
1:09:07
↗
time for some of that data to be
1:09:09
↗
generated um and as David um presents in
1:09:13
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the materials and we'll talk about more
1:09:15
↗
they're also based on the best of
1:09:16
↗
methodology at the time those
1:09:18
↗
methodologies continue to
1:09:20
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improve um and so it's really meant to
1:09:23
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be kind of a snapshot in time of where
1:09:26
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are we uh with all those assumptions and
1:09:28
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the best available information at the
1:09:30
↗
time and so really looking at those
1:09:32
↗
Trends coming away with that punchline
1:09:35
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how have we changed since the the last
1:09:37
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few years um and does that direct us to
1:09:41
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maybe take some different action but
1:09:43
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just thinking of that as kind of that
1:09:44
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snapshot in time definitely not an exact
1:09:47
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science so just encourage you all to
1:09:49
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think of it in that way um I just did
1:09:52
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want to mention too we talk someone
1:09:54
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today that um does inventories using a
1:09:56
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different um using different models for
1:09:59
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some of these factors and while there
1:10:01
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were some slight
1:10:02
↗
differences the most part in alignment
1:10:05
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with the findings of this inventory so
1:10:07
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that was a good kind of gut check that
1:10:09
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this is at least on the right
1:10:11
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track so I do also think it is valuable
1:10:15
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to point out that this is this is really
1:10:18
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looking at what is our emissions
1:10:20
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CommunityWide and um I believe in
1:10:23
↗
comment that an had uh emailed in right
1:10:27
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addressing these emissions is that
1:10:29
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Patchwork of State efforts clean energy
1:10:32
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transformation act and climate
1:10:34
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commitment act which um there's some
1:10:37
↗
threats to this year um it's that
1:10:39
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Federal action and it's that local
1:10:41
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action right so this is mainly just
1:10:43
↗
looking at where are we at here in the
1:10:45
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community and this is also recognizing
1:10:47
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that to address all of these emissions
1:10:50
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there's a lot that the city can do and
1:10:52
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there's a lot that the city can't do to
1:10:54
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address some of these emissions and it
1:10:55
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is going to be that that big effort
1:10:59
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right two two other quick thoughts
1:11:02
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um one since a lot of this is based on
1:11:05
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which I totally understand there's
1:11:06
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limits on what can be done and like
1:11:08
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there's gonna have to be some Reliance
1:11:09
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on the model one great thing about a
1:11:12
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model is you know when you change inputs
1:11:13
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in a model what those outputs are and so
1:11:15
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something that I would be really
1:11:17
↗
interested in
1:11:18
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Cascadia like creating or basically an
1:11:21
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output of this being is like if you
1:11:24
↗
change mix of vehicles by this like
1:11:26
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basically what are the things that would
1:11:27
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really move the needle like that seems
1:11:29
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like an output that could come from
1:11:31
↗
their model uh from these different
1:11:33
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areas like are there ways that we can
1:11:35
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understand if x resident switch to this
1:11:39
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like this much impact would result like
1:11:42
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those types of things would be really
1:11:43
↗
helpful to like qu like these big huge
1:11:46
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numbers like what what can actually
1:11:48
↗
change like what are the things that
1:11:49
↗
will actually move the needle um that
1:11:52
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would be that be super super helpful to
1:11:56
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kind of I don't think necessar for for
1:11:59
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the the commun for the uh for the
1:12:01
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council but for the community would
1:12:02
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really help to start like drive home how
1:12:05
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how can they actually make meaningful
1:12:07
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impacts um on this and then what was it
1:12:12
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thing maybe it'll come back to me
1:12:16
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um maybe I'll we got a lot of slides
1:12:19
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cover so don't worry please respond to
1:12:22
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that first suggestion um I don't think
1:12:24
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that's going to be part of the work
1:12:26
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they're doing with this but we are in
1:12:28
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discussions with Consultants about as a
1:12:31
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next phase doing uh somewhat of an
1:12:33
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economic analysis is what is the local
1:12:36
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investment and on what actions needed to
1:12:39
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move the needle given the state and
1:12:41
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federal policies that are in place so I
1:12:43
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think get somewhat at your question so
1:12:45
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we're hoping to do that this spring in
1:12:47
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time for all the city um budget updates
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and requests so I'll let you know if
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that moves forward and a great
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discussion oh I don't know if this was
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it but this was maybe a different thing
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one thing that isn't in the presentation
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currently that would be helpful
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is 2017 2019 2022 all in relation to our
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icap goals and that graph that we have
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in IAP just to see like it's it's still
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early but like where are we within that
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context
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sh but if you're talking about that you
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should also talk about growth in the
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community like how much growth has
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happened between 2017 2019 and 2022 you
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know both business and
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um not and it's not just in the city but
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it's also in the region because we know
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many of the facilities people in South
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King
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County dve through yes that's missing
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from this presentation overall is
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popular it hasn't been
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stagnant yes and I think um that gets
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to a challenge had and this is very good
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feedback and thinking about out of all
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of the data that I could present what is
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the the good pieces to bring out right
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so for instance in moving ahead right so
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this is our inventory uh 2017 through
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2022 um looking at some of those Trends
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the reason I'm showing 2017 2019 and
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2022 is because these are the three
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inventory years that use the same
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methodology one of the things that uh
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you could notice from this is it does go
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down it's a uh
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177% well that's the next side but it's
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a 17% per capita reduction greenhouse
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gas emissions and a 10% overall
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reduction and one of the when you look
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at the the specific data that comes out
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of a lot of this um the thms of natural
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gas use the kilowatt hours for
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electricity actually stays fairly
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similar between those three years and
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the per capita amount does decrease a
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little bit right so even though uh the
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emissions then aren't going down by
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Leaps and Bounds the per capita
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emissions is improving a little bit
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better than overall emissions however
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the biggest reduction in greenhouse gas
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emissions over this uh five year time do
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come from reductions in the carbon int
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or improvements in the carbon intensity
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of the psse electric so when you see
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where these improvements coming from
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it's reductions in emissions from
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commercial electricity use residential
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electricity use and Industrial Electric
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use is that from better technology that
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you're done I believe it's from changing
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out their fuel
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sources so David another thing is isn't
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Co should be one of the things which
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should reduce the G uh you know
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emissions in this means this graph has
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to be moved because of the co right
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means or have you considered or is there
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a consideration of covid data you know
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because of the how much the J emissions
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were reduced or anything I'm guessing
1:16:04
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it's not considered this it just the
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bulk data used to produce this graph is
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that right so this data shows the data
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from the greenhouse gas inventory years
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we conducted and so 2019 and 2022 kind
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of are are the ones that bookmark around
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Co um I think one way that Co does show
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up in this graph is there is a raw
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reduction in vehicle miles travel based
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on the models for the city of isqua in
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2022 my understanding and in talking
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with folks who've been doing these
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inventories uh
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nationally that is expected to actually
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that reduction might be leftover impacts
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from covid-19 and while there are still
1:16:43
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folks working from home um and that has
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changed it wouldn't be surprising when
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we do the next greenhouse gas inventory
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to actually see an Inc increase in BM
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again as people continue to thrive out
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in the world right um so I think that's
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a good example of where we can make an
1:17:05
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assumption within the data that that the
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reduction in BMT is probably prob Co
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still and just to let you know you know
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mean I think you guys are doing awesome
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this is a great you know effort and just
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to add you know even though you're
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getting some so many question or what we
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are asking I know how complicated the G
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accounting gets as Stacy put it it's not
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just that it's not science you are
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trying to do a quantitative assessment
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by using some qualitative data in a lot
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of circumstances where there are
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assumption so you know do the best you
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can and try to get to the quantitative
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site and that's when you know I'm saying
1:17:46
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the margin of error or your assumptions
1:17:50
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that language needs to be put somewhere
1:17:51
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or it needs to be clear clear on your
1:17:54
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graphs or the reports you might be able
1:17:56
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to get a better language on that from
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Cascadia Consulting themselves when they
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are using the which would be worth
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putting somewhere in the report because
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this is a huge undertaking and I can say
1:18:09
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that from personal experience I've done
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it for on smaller scale and based on the
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model use you use or the type of tool
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you use you can get different results or
1:18:19
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based on the data or the assumptions
1:18:21
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slight change can make a difference so
1:18:24
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you know there is a lot of margin of
1:18:25
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error if there is a slight change so you
1:18:28
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need to have that specified somewhere in
1:18:30
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the report that's just yeah no I
1:18:33
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appreciate that and I can reach out to
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Cascada to see if they have a specific
1:18:36
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margin of eror that's you getting so
1:18:38
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many questions as well because you know
1:18:41
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it's it's not an exact science or it's
1:18:43
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not just quantitative data no and and we
1:18:46
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anticipated lots of questions there is
1:18:48
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this is very
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complex topic and we know it's a a high
1:18:53
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interest so thank you definitely was
1:18:54
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expecting many questions here just quick
1:18:57
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note on
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that they focuses really well on like
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what would the feedback be for for you
1:19:04
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for the for next steps I do
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think the statement of facts of like
1:19:09
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what is the content like before the
1:19:12
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slides of like what the graphs are doing
1:19:14
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this like not only the model but also
1:19:16
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some of the context you're providing to
1:19:17
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us now around like the impacts of covid
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the electrical G changes
1:19:23
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all of that as a like as context going
1:19:26
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into when someone sees numbers because
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as soon as people see numbers their eyes
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go they they go brains go red everything
1:19:33
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so I think the more you can do to set
1:19:34
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the stage of like what is the context
1:19:36
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here before you show even any specific
1:19:39
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numbers what is the context population
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of a squad went up by X this was this is
1:19:45
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an impact the the impact of of covid on
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on driving is this amount of like not
1:19:52
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you don't have to quantify but like this
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is an impact what are those things that
1:19:55
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like someone coming into this C needs as
1:19:59
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context would be maybe the first slide
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like one of the earlier slides before
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any specific
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numbers
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recommendation Dixie goad I I I have a
1:20:12
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clarifying question and maybe it's in
1:20:14
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here I'm looking at it again to see if I
1:20:15
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missed it but um you're presenting
1:20:19
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data um but what is the what are what
1:20:23
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are we trying to get the council to do
1:20:27
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with this data and I think maybe that is
1:20:30
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also a good place like if I'm presenting
1:20:32
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new information to people that I haven't
1:20:35
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given information to i' like to start
1:20:37
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with what am I hoping that they because
1:20:40
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I think we have we have an agenda
1:20:41
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obviously um so we want them to go with
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our
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agenda um you know and so what does that
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look like in presenting the data so that
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they're led to go wow this is important
1:20:52
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and we need to do I you know I guess and
1:20:55
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maybe it's in here like I said I I may
1:20:57
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have missed it but um like what is the
1:21:00
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goal of the presentation to the council
1:21:04
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yeah that's a that's a great question
1:21:06
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and I I would probably say the goal for
1:21:08
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the presentation to council is really to
1:21:11
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one give them a just raw what is the
1:21:14
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update on our CommunityWide and then our
1:21:17
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government operations greenhouse gas
1:21:18
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inventory right as we're thinking about
1:21:21
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implementing our cap our functional plan
1:21:24
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there um that's kind of data that
1:21:26
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Council needs to see I think the other
1:21:29
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piece of this and this comes out a
1:21:32
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little bit later on in the presentation
1:21:33
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is where do we then focus our efforts at
1:21:37
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the city right and I think one of the
1:21:39
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pieces that this uh inventory results
1:21:44
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really highlights is that the focus to
1:21:48
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to reach our IAP targets and our IAP
1:21:51
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goals we really need to continue
1:21:52
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continue to focus um and maybe
1:21:54
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prioritize Focus within uh reducing
1:21:57
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emissions from our built environment and
1:21:59
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then from Transportation our two largest
1:22:01
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sources of greenhouse gas emissions if
1:22:03
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we want any hope of reaching those
1:22:05
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targets right um and so I think that's a
1:22:09
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good method of thinking about what is it
1:22:11
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going to really take for us to to get
1:22:14
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these emissions reductions and then
1:22:15
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where where are we going to have to
1:22:17
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focus at the
1:22:21
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city
1:22:23
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just one quick question and and did you
1:22:25
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I saw you were had your hand raised did
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you have something to say
1:22:30
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or up now but
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I I think can you hear
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me okay I think um David and Dixie
1:22:40
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addressed what I was going to say which
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is basically
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um we want the city council to continue
1:22:49
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to support our climate change efforts um
1:22:54
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and so
1:22:56
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possibly we need to amp up our um
1:23:00
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communication on the solutions and how
1:23:03
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we will need you know these are these
1:23:04
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are what we can do to um get to a better
1:23:08
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report next time because we clearly need
1:23:10
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to continue to do better um
1:23:16
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and we're going to need support from
1:23:18
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city council and maybe it would be
1:23:20
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helpful for them
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if we can before the report be before um
1:23:26
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February to
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enumerate
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um where we might need some
1:23:37
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funds just one quick point that might be
1:23:39
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interesting might be able to capture in
1:23:41
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the vehicle
1:23:42
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emissions curious how much there's a
1:23:44
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slight reduction there between 17 and 22
1:23:47
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I'm curious how much of that is the sale
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of
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EVS um in 17 EVS w't quite as prevalent
1:23:54
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as they are now I think you might be
1:23:55
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able to dig that information up in re
1:23:58
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wide percentage of EVS being sold kind
1:24:00
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of like that yeah I can definitely look
1:24:04
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that number up I don't think that
1:24:06
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um that is probably good news St yeah
1:24:10
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that yeah that would be um something
1:24:12
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that could be helpful to to be able to
1:24:15
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frame the
1:24:20
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conversation any other questions on
1:24:23
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CommunityWide Trends the next switch is
1:24:26
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going to be on government operations
1:24:28
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inventory I do have yes one thing that I
1:24:32
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would love to hear included in this is
1:24:38
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how this data will be tied back to the
1:24:42
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IAP update that one thing that one
1:24:45
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frustration I've had with IAP overall um
1:24:48
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since Inception is the lack of specific
1:24:51
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numbers other than our overall targets
1:24:54
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but a lot of the goals don't get into
1:24:55
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the specifics of what our goal is for
1:24:57
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savings and so I I think one of the
1:25:00
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things that if I was Council I'd love to
1:25:01
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hear is okay we know these are the
1:25:03
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numbers what we're now going to do is
1:25:06
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translate them into like apply these
1:25:08
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into our update IAP to understand okay
1:25:12
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we now know where we need to get these
1:25:14
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things we think are going to do this
1:25:15
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amount I've seen other climate action
1:25:17
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plans that are much more specific on
1:25:19
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expected emission reductions and so I
1:25:21
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just think that this is a good
1:25:23
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opportunity along because we're also
1:25:25
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doing that update this year to begin
1:25:27
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that conversation I don't know exactly
1:25:29
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what that looks like but I think if I
1:25:31
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was cancel I would appreciate it if we
1:25:33
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went another step of talking about okay
1:25:36
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what how are we going to then now use
1:25:37
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this data to inform what we're doing
1:25:41
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with so I think on that point and and 10
1:25:46
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15 slides down the line I mentioned the
1:25:48
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IAP update and and midpoint check-in
1:25:50
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process so just as a clarification this
1:25:52
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year is the the midpoint checkin on the
1:25:54
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IAP and the actual midpoint or the
1:25:57
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actual IAP update won't happen until
1:25:59
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2025 2026 here so one interesting note
1:26:04
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on that is if we were able to do another
1:26:08
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greenhouse gas inventory in 2024 which
1:26:10
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is the the hope would have even more
1:26:12
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data to then bring into that actual
1:26:14
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update process in 20125 and
1:26:17
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2026 um so that is good news hopefully
1:26:21
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um the other piece is for some of these
1:26:26
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inventories there's the the idea of the
1:26:28
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wedge analysis right thinking about what
1:26:30
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are the different actions that are going
1:26:31
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to take to
1:26:33
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reduce uh emissions and and kind of over
1:26:36
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that that time span between now and 2025
1:26:40
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2050 for instance how do we want
1:26:42
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emissions to look like to to get to
1:26:44
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those targets um and generally it was
1:26:48
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decided among the East Side cities that
1:26:50
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participated in this um effort to not do
1:26:53
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the wedge for this update um and
1:26:57
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probably do that in future updates but
1:27:00
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the general idea was that which is I
1:27:02
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think roughly what we're what your point
1:27:04
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was getting at um I think generally the
1:27:07
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idea was that uh we have a wedge
1:27:10
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analysis from 2019 as part of the
1:27:12
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regional greenhouse gas emissions um
1:27:15
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inventory conducted by PSR Rea um and
1:27:19
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that that doing that update ated wedge
1:27:22
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analysis was going to be a costly
1:27:25
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addition to this and wouldn't
1:27:27
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necessarily tell us a whole lot new but
1:27:29
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that if we were to save at doing that
1:27:31
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for later this would help us get that
1:27:34
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snapshot in time to continue to be able
1:27:36
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to focus and say hey look the built
1:27:38
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environment and transportation are still
1:27:40
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our biggest sources of emissions and
1:27:42
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Emissions reduction is really driven by
1:27:45
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the utility and here's what we can do to
1:27:48
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to fit into this Patchwork of of efforts
1:27:50
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to to meet our goals
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does that help a little bit Yeah I think
1:27:58
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no I think it does my point was a bit
1:28:00
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broader just in as we think about how
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numbers come to life in the icap
1:28:06
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planning in
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general I think looking back that was
1:28:11
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and this was feedback that myself and
1:28:13
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others had when we originally passed IAP
1:28:15
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was that there wasn't enough spec like
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specific there were there weren't enough
1:28:19
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specific goals and I think the right
1:28:20
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time that start having that convers
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ation whether we're not going to make
1:28:24
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that level of update at this midpoint
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update and it's only in 2025 I still
1:28:28
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think that's a conversation we should
1:28:29
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start having um so that it was a broader
1:28:32
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point I think sure I think the wedge
1:28:34
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analysis is a great tool as part of that
1:28:36
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so I think think it's more of General
1:28:39
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conversation I think it would be helpful
1:28:41
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to start having absolutely I think
1:28:43
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that's a great
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point oh an yeah I'll try to be quick so
1:28:53
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um what do you think
1:28:56
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about saving money and
1:28:59
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time uh and having our next analysis be
1:29:05
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on in
1:29:07
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2026 because in
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2026 we will have coal out of our mix
1:29:13
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and so our our electrical greenhouse gas
1:29:16
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emissions will potentially come way
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down um
1:29:22
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and in between now and then I think we
1:29:24
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know what we need to work on it seems
1:29:26
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clear and that could that open up some
1:29:30
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more time and energy and money to work
1:29:34
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on the real solutions that we know we
1:29:36
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need to work
1:29:37
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on yeah I think that's a great Point
1:29:40
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thinking about just that Cadence of
1:29:41
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these greenhouse gas emissions
1:29:43
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inventories I think the the model the
1:29:46
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East Side City partnership was moving
1:29:49
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towards is is looking at doing those
1:29:52
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every two years roughly um Belleview
1:29:54
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does them every single year because
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that's a request by their city council
1:29:59
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um we kind of felt like that wasn't
1:30:03
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necessary you know the the um emissions
1:30:07
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changes on a year-to-year basis aren't
1:30:10
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uh necessarily that large and they don't
1:30:13
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often change direction of where we're
1:30:15
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what efforts we want to do um so I think
1:30:18
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you know whether we do it in 2024 2026
1:30:22
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that's um something that we can
1:30:24
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absolutely consider is kind of what is
1:30:26
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that what is the correct Cadence for us
1:30:28
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to be doing these these inventories
1:30:30
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luckily in partnering with the East Side
1:30:33
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cities and this was kind of our first
1:30:35
↗
year doing this in part the greenhouse
1:30:37
↗
gas inventory in partnership with them
1:30:39
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hopefully the burden is becomes less the
1:30:43
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the effort actually becomes less to do
1:30:45
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this on a year a year basis since we
1:30:47
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have kind of this ongoing partnership
1:30:49
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and contract with cascad to be doing it
1:30:51
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so so in theory we should be able to do
1:30:54
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these
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um with less less effort and investment
1:30:59
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City cool do you know what the cost
1:31:03
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is just got yeah it
1:31:05
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was yeah our portion was about 14,000
1:31:09
↗
and that was for both of the inventories
1:31:11
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as well as um they did update the
1:31:16
↗
20 inventory with the new methodology
1:31:19
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that was applied in the most recent one
1:31:22
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cool so the next one the price may go
1:31:24
↗
down but still like 10 or 14,000 like we
1:31:28
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think about that like oh um where else
1:31:32
↗
could that be spent that could actually
1:31:34
↗
help us reduce our
1:31:37
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emissions just a thought yeah no it's
1:31:40
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great suggestion I think most of the
1:31:43
↗
Cities would prefer to do these less
1:31:44
↗
frequently I think we're trying to
1:31:47
↗
figure out what the right timeline is
1:31:49
↗
for us yeah and that's $144,000 and plus
1:31:52
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all the time that you guys spend on
1:31:56
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it I think the risk there is if if the
1:31:59
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update of IAP is in 2025 and anything
1:32:01
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out of the inventory is important to how
1:32:03
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we set goals how we understand where we
1:32:06
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need to get that 14,000 actually sounds
1:32:09
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quite small and it's how we're
1:32:11
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allocating hundreds of thousands or
1:32:13
↗
millions of dollars to invest in a plan
1:32:15
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so I I would just caution us that we
1:32:18
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make sure that that's the right like
1:32:21
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that 14 is actually much lower than I
1:32:23
↗
was expecting here and that especially
1:32:25
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if we're talking about a plan that's
1:32:26
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going to last like a longer term plan I
1:32:29
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would be concerned if this was maybe we
1:32:32
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said hey this missions analysis isn't
1:32:34
↗
important for that uh that would be one
1:32:36
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thing but if this is going to be an
1:32:37
↗
important resource for that that would
1:32:39
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be a concern I think well just remember
1:32:42
↗
2026 is only two years away correct yeah
1:32:46
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the the Cadence and the
1:32:48
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timing reports now is also right ahead
1:32:51
↗
of our budget cycle so that's did
1:32:54
↗
mention that and this will feed into our
1:32:56
↗
conversation with Council about the IAP
1:32:58
↗
midpoint checkin we have the results now
1:33:01
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for Budget justification so we would
1:33:04
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also have that um next version of the
1:33:07
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inventory ahead of the go 27 27 28
1:33:12
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budget
1:33:13
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so I twoyear cycle keeps your Trend
1:33:17
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going and if you're do at 2024
1:33:20
↗
evaluation you're not
1:33:23
↗
yes or late 2025 2026 yeah great
1:33:29
↗
consideration
1:33:32
↗
and jumping into Municipal
1:33:35
↗
operations um so this is our very first
1:33:39
↗
government operations greenhouse gas
1:33:41
↗
inventory this is much based much more
1:33:44
↗
based on um specific data we have right
1:33:48
↗
so we were able to get from Puget Sound
1:33:50
↗
Energy
1:33:52
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how much electricity we used for our
1:33:55
↗
government operations in 2022 we were
1:33:59
↗
able to run a report with our fleet team
1:34:02
↗
and figure out how much um gasoline did
1:34:06
↗
we use uh for all of our vehicles right
1:34:10
↗
we were able to input specifically our
1:34:12
↗
specific electric vehicle mix for 20122
1:34:16
↗
which was just one Nan Leaf so that
1:34:18
↗
didn't have a huge
1:34:20
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impact
1:34:22
↗
we have that reflected in here
1:34:26
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um overall the the government operations
1:34:29
↗
inventory uh represents rough roughly 1%
1:34:32
↗
of our CommunityWide emissions um the
1:34:36
↗
emissions per full-time employee is uh
1:34:40
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roughly on even again on par again with
1:34:43
↗
our regional partner cities um we're
1:34:46
↗
again right in the middle between um
1:34:48
↗
bellw Kirkland redent and Mercer Island
1:34:52
↗
um there are a number of different
1:34:54
↗
things to note about this inventory so
1:34:57
↗
for one uh the electricity that's
1:35:00
↗
reported here electricity consumption
1:35:02
↗
here is not fully representative of all
1:35:05
↗
the electricity consumed uh at the city
1:35:09
↗
because 79% of that Municipal
1:35:12
↗
electricity is on the green direct
1:35:14
↗
program which is a direct match for
1:35:16
↗
match electric kilowatt of electricity
1:35:18
↗
use here at the city with renewable
1:35:22
↗
sources uh in western Washington there's
1:35:26
↗
a Wind Facility and a solar facility
1:35:28
↗
that's specifically relate to that and
1:35:30
↗
through long conversations with uh
1:35:32
↗
Cascadia Consulting and fugit Sound
1:35:35
↗
Energy the decision was that this green
1:35:38
↗
direct program was uh a a good match for
1:35:42
↗
uh a good match of electricity use here
1:35:45
↗
with the uh renewable energy development
1:35:48
↗
in uh that we subscribe
1:35:50
↗
to so this is actually the first
1:35:53
↗
government operations inventory that
1:35:55
↗
Cascadia has uh
1:35:57
↗
reflected uh government electricity in
1:36:00
↗
this way so that's important to note and
1:36:04
↗
we are in conversations with Puget Sound
1:36:06
↗
Energy about how we can um address the
1:36:09
↗
rest of our uh electricity with uh
1:36:13
↗
similar freefor
1:36:19
↗
programs buying
1:36:22
↗
electricity
1:36:24
↗
PSC while investing into their green
1:36:28
↗
generation system yeah so there's a
1:36:30
↗
specific program called Green direct
1:36:32
↗
which is what 79% of our Municipal
1:36:35
↗
electricity is on um and essentially we
1:36:37
↗
pay a premium on some of our electricity
1:36:41
↗
the reason it's not 100% is because we
1:36:43
↗
have changed our service levels over the
1:36:46
↗
years and that's kind
1:36:48
↗
of put some of our accounts out Etc but
1:36:53
↗
when we purchase into it they developed
1:36:56
↗
um a solar fa facility in lond and then
1:36:59
↗
a Wind Facility
1:37:01
↗
inum Chuck Washington um and basically
1:37:05
↗
they opened this program up to mainly
1:37:08
↗
Municipal customers and public customers
1:37:12
↗
um and we could buy essentially a
1:37:14
↗
certain number of of shares and connect
1:37:17
↗
a certain number of our accounts with
1:37:19
↗
the expected electri electricity
1:37:21
↗
generation of those renewable
1:37:24
↗
facilities so those the electric gen
1:37:29
↗
we're essentially saying that the
1:37:30
↗
electricity consumed here at the city
1:37:33
↗
through on the accounts that are on the
1:37:35
↗
green direct program that electricity is
1:37:38
↗
coming from those um renewable systems
1:37:42
↗
even though it's not you know one for
1:37:44
↗
one electrons but it is uh that
1:37:46
↗
electricity is only getting accounted
1:37:49
↗
for our city accounts and not being
1:37:52
↗
included in psc's you know greenhouse
1:37:55
↗
gas inventory or you know on on their um
1:37:58
↗
general grid uh how plant clean their
1:38:02
↗
grid is
1:38:04
↗
ETC does that help get a certification
1:38:07
↗
for those credits so a document that
1:38:14
↗
double I consider because I think that's
1:38:16
↗
different than the residential like
1:38:18
↗
green power and choice like I assumed it
1:38:21
↗
was that this is actually better than
1:38:23
↗
what I yes you might just mention that
1:38:25
↗
because I think that's a better than
1:38:28
↗
most people won't know that does is yeah
1:38:30
↗
so this is one I think just like little
1:38:32
↗
details here right the green direct
1:38:34
↗
program is better than the green power
1:38:36
↗
program the green direct program is
1:38:38
↗
fully subscribed so if we were to
1:38:39
↗
transition additional electric accounts
1:38:42
↗
onto green purchasing programs it would
1:38:45
↗
be the general uh commercial green power
1:38:48
↗
program which is not as good in that
1:38:50
↗
it's not as local renewable energy uh
1:38:54
↗
Generation Um and the green director
1:38:57
↗
program is fully subscribed and they're
1:38:59
↗
not planning on currently expanding it
1:39:01
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so we can't put more accounts on it
1:39:03
↗
unfortunately however we're exploring
1:39:06
↗
what other options look
1:39:08
↗
like so I'm kind of changing subjects so
1:39:11
↗
we done with that last one just before I
1:39:14
↗
move on to different thought proc sure
1:39:16
↗
I'm looking at your final bullet on this
1:39:18
↗
page yeah and I know the city did some
1:39:21
↗
construction projects they hired outside
1:39:23
↗
contractors for such as a water pipeline
1:39:25
↗
up on the hillside up here and stuff
1:39:27
↗
like that are those included in this or
1:39:29
↗
they excluded
1:39:31
↗
from because that City
1:39:34
↗
money that's a good question I believe
1:39:37
↗
they're excluded from this you might
1:39:39
↗
want to know that in your discussion
1:39:40
↗
that Cy capital projects are not
1:39:42
↗
included in this
1:39:50
↗
inventory
1:39:51
↗
yeah so this is specifically vehicle
1:39:54
↗
miles traveled in emissions associated
1:39:56
↗
with city
1:39:58
↗
owns I just think that should be clear
1:40:00
↗
because our operations does include
1:40:02
↗
projects that we're paying
1:40:06
↗
for good
1:40:10
↗
clarification I think one of the other
1:40:11
↗
things I want to point out here is that
1:40:14
↗
you know natural gas is a little over a
1:40:17
↗
quarter of our government operations in
1:40:22
↗
most of that comes from three buildings
1:40:24
↗
right the pool the Public Works complex
1:40:27
↗
and then the community center right and
1:40:30
↗
so one of the other topics that we
1:40:31
↗
brought before the board before was our
1:40:33
↗
Municipal Building Greenhouse no
1:40:36
↗
Municipal Building decarbonization
1:40:38
↗
assessment excuse me um and so there are
1:40:41
↗
going to be different programs that are
1:40:42
↗
specifically looking at how can we take
1:40:45
↗
that natural gas use out of our
1:40:48
↗
facilities right and we're currently
1:40:50
↗
moving forward with a number of
1:40:51
↗
different projects that hopefully are
1:40:53
↗
going to going to help reduce this
1:40:56
↗
number um our largest emissions within
1:41:00
↗
Transportation are our Fleet do come
1:41:03
↗
from law enforcement vehicles and then
1:41:05
↗
the utility and construction maintenance
1:41:06
↗
vehicles are our kind of second tier
1:41:09
↗
there and then the other one I want to
1:41:11
↗
point out is this challenge of employee
1:41:13
↗
commute which is a whole quarter of our
1:41:16
↗
government operations emissions right
1:41:18
↗
and that is uh
1:41:21
↗
that is going to be a hard n to crack as
1:41:23
↗
we think about uh the different ways
1:41:25
↗
that we can uh reduce those emissions we
1:41:28
↗
do have the commute trip ruction program
1:41:30
↗
we've got uh
1:41:31
↗
teleworking we have public transit Etc
1:41:35
↗
but um when we think about where our
1:41:38
↗
Municipal programs can best address our
1:41:41
↗
emissions it's most likely going to be
1:41:42
↗
again in that built environment and
1:41:44
↗
transportation space so electricity
1:41:46
↗
natural gas and then the onroad fleet
1:41:48
↗
and we have a number of different uh
1:41:50
↗
projects in
1:41:51
↗
specific to
1:41:52
↗
that um on page 52 when we talk about
1:41:55
↗
the trip reduction I do think there
1:41:57
↗
should be a mention of remote work Flex
1:41:59
↗
schedules um it's my understanding
1:42:02
↗
from over the years that each department
1:42:05
↗
operated differently and have their own
1:42:07
↗
culture of how they address and what
1:42:09
↗
really needs to happen is a shift in the
1:42:11
↗
administration to promote the things
1:42:13
↗
that we know will actually bring these
1:42:14
↗
numers down right now there is not a
1:42:16
↗
blanket approval for remote work a lot
1:42:20
↗
of employees right it's depending on
1:42:21
↗
which department you're in it's
1:42:23
↗
depending upon um how our city
1:42:25
↗
administrator has decided that he thinks
1:42:27
↗
it should be rather than having a
1:42:29
↗
blanket statement of saying this is
1:42:31
↗
something we support this is community
1:42:33
↗
and we support for our workers right
1:42:35
↗
being able to have flexible hours of
1:42:36
↗
when they're coming in and out also
1:42:39
↗
helps with how much pollution they're
1:42:40
↗
having rather than idle in right there's
1:42:42
↗
a lot of different things that we can do
1:42:44
↗
um and there's a culture shift that I
1:42:46
↗
think needs to be addressed and it kind
1:42:47
↗
of goes back to the things have been
1:42:49
↗
talking about as to
1:42:51
↗
what's the what are we trying to
1:42:53
↗
advocate for with these numbers it's
1:42:55
↗
something that I had coming up time and
1:42:56
↗
time again was well where do we want to
1:42:58
↗
go and where do we expect this needle to
1:43:00
↗
fall and part of that isn't just um it
1:43:03
↗
it's part of it too is a culture that we
1:43:05
↗
need to be say we need to be doing this
1:43:07
↗
differently and we can do this
1:43:08
↗
differently um and I didn't really get
1:43:11
↗
that from this presentation of where we
1:43:13
↗
go what are we hoping to do and this is
1:43:16
↗
a tangible example of something where we
1:43:17
↗
can say we need to have remote work and
1:43:20
↗
flexible work options for
1:43:25
↗
all yeah I appreciate
1:43:28
↗
that I think one positive is that we did
1:43:32
↗
get preliminary numbers back in December
1:43:36
↗
and some of these employee commute um
1:43:39
↗
percent numbers were shared with the
1:43:42
↗
city administrator and helped inform the
1:43:44
↗
continuation of the policy to allow um
1:43:48
↗
remote work for four out of the five
1:43:49
↗
days of the week
1:43:51
↗
so in in that way it has had some
1:43:54
↗
tangible impacts already which is really
1:43:58
↗
wonderful so that's just to be clear
1:44:01
↗
that that 25% is obviously not everyone
1:44:04
↗
sticks to the
1:44:06
↗
policy but so that Stacy might have more
1:44:10
↗
information on the policy specific but
1:44:12
↗
there are definitely departments
1:44:14
↗
especially ones where folks have to come
1:44:16
↗
in to the office to do their job so
1:44:18
↗
there's definitely the variety of
1:44:21
↗
yeah if you work at the permit desk
1:44:26
↗
hard are but there are places to
1:44:31
↗
absolutely departments having more
1:44:33
↗
harmonious culture right and right now
1:44:35
↗
it's very peace yeah we have a um free
1:44:39
↗
charging policy for staff right now a
1:44:41
↗
pilot program too but I think one thing
1:44:44
↗
to consider is we can address our
1:44:48
↗
buildings we can address our Fleet this
1:44:50
↗
is employee commute may become 90% of
1:44:54
↗
our um emissions over time I mean we'll
1:44:57
↗
see the number shrink but that
1:44:58
↗
percentage of it because we have a we
1:45:01
↗
have less control on which vehicles
1:45:04
↗
employees are purchasing or where
1:45:07
↗
they're hired from um where they're
1:45:09
↗
traveling from we'll definitely be
1:45:11
↗
promoting you know the public transit
1:45:13
↗
and all those things but just know it's
1:45:15
↗
just a percentage of our total emissions
1:45:17
↗
and we hope to shrink our buildings and
1:45:19
↗
fleets iFly so something's going to have
1:45:22
↗
to grow in the pie well I mean we can
1:45:25
↗
use lobbying efforts to advocate for
1:45:27
↗
civil servants getting specific
1:45:29
↗
subsidies right I mean there's there's
1:45:31
↗
different things that we can do to help
1:45:32
↗
promote portions of our population
1:45:34
↗
having better access to buying and elect
1:45:37
↗
absolutely yeah there's other things we
1:45:39
↗
could do to within our tools right
1:45:43
↗
absolutely yeah we we want to see our
1:45:45
↗
government operations um reduced just
1:45:48
↗
noting that we're going to see some
1:45:49
↗
shifts in this p as we do you know if we
1:45:52
↗
eliminate essentially that 21% of
1:45:54
↗
electricity because we're able to buy
1:45:56
↗
green power that number will shrink
1:45:58
↗
somewhere else on the pie is going to
1:46:00
↗
have to grow as a percentage of our
1:46:05
↗
emissions question your electricity
1:46:07
↗
natural gas that includes all City
1:46:09
↗
facilities yes then where is your
1:46:12
↗
equipment where's your Offroad Fleet
1:46:15
↗
off-road Fleet um it's
1:46:19
↗
that under 1% there there's a other
1:46:23
↗
sources no it actually says off-road
1:46:26
↗
Fleet underneath on onroad fleet missor
1:46:29
↗
yeah it's a very small CLI
1:46:38
↗
um so uh potentially this would be a a
1:46:43
↗
slide to bring farther up as we
1:46:45
↗
potentially as we talked to council but
1:46:47
↗
this is specifically noting different
1:46:50
↗
prr programs incentives policies um both
1:46:54
↗
that we at the city are are pursuing as
1:46:56
↗
well as or or you know actively working
1:46:59
↗
on um as well at the state level that
1:47:01
↗
will help us get to specific sources of
1:47:04
↗
emissions right so Energy Smart east
1:47:06
↗
side is a CommunityWide emissions that
1:47:08
↗
will help reduce the natural gas uh
1:47:12
↗
consumption in our community while
1:47:15
↗
increasing um electricity consumption
1:47:17
↗
the clean buildings Pro incentive
1:47:19
↗
program again similarly will help both
1:47:21
↗
reduce electric consumption through
1:47:23
↗
Energy Efficiency as well as reducing
1:47:25
↗
natural gas through the decarbonization
1:47:27
↗
and electrification of um mainly large
1:47:31
↗
but but other um commercial facilities
1:47:35
↗
then there are a number of different um
1:47:38
↗
state state efforts right so the
1:47:41
↗
Washington building standards which are
1:47:42
↗
going to help um address emissions from
1:47:45
↗
new buildings there's the clean energy
1:47:46
↗
transformation act which will help
1:47:49
↗
address emissions from from our
1:47:50
↗
electricity sector as that going to go
1:47:53
↗
down one that we didn't have on here is
1:47:55
↗
um Title 18 and thinking about how we
1:47:58
↗
build a uh addressed our land use
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patterns to build a more walkable
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bikable isqua that will hopefully help
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uh reduce our transportation emissions
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and again down the line down the down
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the line thinking about when light rail
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gets to the city hopefully that'll have
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an impact again on uh some emissions
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thinking about our government sources
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green direct is specifically focused at
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that um government electricity um uh
1:48:25
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greenhouse gas emissions the municipal
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building decarbonization efforts which
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includes both the feasibility analysis
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the energy Audits and specific projects
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that's going to help reduce that fossil
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fuel uh natural gas portion of the
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government operations thinking about our
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own efforts um within the city to
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transition our Fleet of vehicles to
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electric vehicles and build out the
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infrastructure to support that and then
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again the commute trip Reduction Program
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which was mentioned before and I know is
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um going to get more attention I believe
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this year as well so this is to just
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highlight a few of the different
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projects and efforts that are all uh
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focused on different pieces of uh of our
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those graphs and different pieces of our
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mission sources
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and you have a question thanks David uh
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yes I think this is what I was
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addressing earlier um
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what do you think about adding some
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more
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solutions that um we're going to need
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financial
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support approved by the city council for
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in this in this
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area yeah I think that's that's a great
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recommendation and something that we can
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we can definitely include um I think
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when it comes to specific numbers that
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we can make we can make assumptions on
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uh on um really financially what's it
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going to going to take to decarbonize
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for instance our own municipal buildings
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or electrifier Fleet and that's a lot of
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what we're going to be learning this
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spring through a number of different
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analyses right um and then we can also
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talk about how uh to address those
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emissions CommunityWide when we think
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about where the city can fit into that
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um we can we can mention the the need
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for continued investment and engagement
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in a number of the different programs
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that already exist but also think about
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um where else the city can kind of plug
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into to the patchwork of efforts to to
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help bring those numbers down so I think
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that's a great
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suggestion great
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thanks so I know we're we're getting
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close to the end of the the meeting so
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uh I think kind of someone not some
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overall analysis one of the the um
1:50:53
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takeaways is that we are making
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significant progress towards some of our
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IAP goals um and we're not making a lot
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of progress in other icap goals right
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and so there is going to be uh you know
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we have to continue to invest in our
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efforts around building emissions and
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transportation emissions um Etc to
1:51:16
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really to really help us get to those uh
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get to those goals let
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see I have to disagree with okay I don't
1:51:28
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think we are making significant progress
1:51:31
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I think 177% production is just DP a
1:51:36
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dribble and so I really question your
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first
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bullet the first bullet there are some
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specific goals we are getting closer to
1:51:48
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so for instance one of the Targets in
1:51:49
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the I cap is to transition 100% of our
1:51:53
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Municipal electricity to renewable
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sources so we are getting closer to that
1:51:57
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through the PSC programs and then
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another one that is we're making
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progress to that I would say you know
1:52:06
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we have we are not achieving yet um but
1:52:10
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for instance is the um energy use
1:52:13
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reduction in existing buildings right so
1:52:15
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there are specific Targets in the IAP
1:52:17
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around percent reductions there that
1:52:19
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we're getting that we're making more
1:52:21
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significant progress to we still have a
1:52:23
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lot to go there but luckily the data is
1:52:26
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showing that we have made progress
1:52:29
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towards that whereas some other targets
1:52:31
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where we're far yes so I guess my
1:52:35
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comment to you as though we are trying
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to get more funding and more ability to
1:52:40
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do this and by saying we're making
1:52:41
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significant progress they increase our
1:52:43
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efforts to get more um and you say we're
1:52:48
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working to get there but we aren't there
1:52:50
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yet if we have got solar power now
1:52:53
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running the pool Community Center and I
1:52:56
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mean yeah we've done some stuff because
1:53:00
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those are things we can control but we
1:53:02
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don't have any of that we may be trying
1:53:04
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to get there so I really question your
1:53:07
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first bullet and if that's the message
1:53:09
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you want to send to city council I
1:53:11
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disagree with you and that's just my
1:53:14
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opinion but I don't know how the rest of
1:53:16
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the board feels I think we have a long
1:53:18
↗
ways to go and I think need to continue
1:53:20
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to make efforts to try and reduce our
1:53:24
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Greenhouse you know admissions
1:53:26
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demonstrate leadership to businesses in
1:53:29
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this community that we are doing things
1:53:31
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to be climate friendly so that people
1:53:33
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like Costco and REI follow our lead and
1:53:38
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that's my challenge to you is let's not
1:53:41
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send the message we're making big
1:53:43
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progress we are working towards a goal
1:53:46
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but we've got a lot of work to do ab so
1:53:48
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maybe it's a reframing things so that uh
1:53:52
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we're May we're doing things but we've
1:53:54
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got a lot to do right to meet our goals
1:53:58
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yeah I I agree with I mean I
1:54:00
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think I also don't think that this is an
1:54:02
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IAP update so I do wonder if that first
1:54:06
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bullet should be specific to emissions
1:54:07
↗
targets and like our performance against
1:54:10
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emissions Targets in the IAP which I I
1:54:12
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don't know how we perform to we should
1:54:14
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we should probably have we should have
1:54:16
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the numbers of like what was our Target
1:54:18
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for 2022 how are we performing relative
1:54:20
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to
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2022 but I I do agree with with Nancy
1:54:24
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that I think the first bullet doesn't
1:54:27
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accurately like I think what we could
1:54:30
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say is we've seen reductions but a lot
1:54:32
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of it has come as a result of actions
1:54:34
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outside of isqua like I that's the
1:54:36
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message I get from hearing this is we're
1:54:39
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benefiting from psse but we haven't
1:54:41
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actually there's not been significant
1:54:43
↗
change within the community which I
1:54:44
↗
think is what what we're trying to get
1:54:47
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done with the IAP is we're not just
1:54:49
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going to sit and
1:54:50
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sit wait for um for ESC to change their
1:54:54
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their mix like so I I I do think that
1:54:57
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the messaging here
1:55:00
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is just in a different Focus than I
1:55:03
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would have taken yeah I do think uh that
1:55:07
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there's that talking about that talking
1:55:09
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about how we're performing as overall
1:55:10
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emissions targets and the addressable
1:55:13
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portion of that and like what is
1:55:15
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actually happening within the community
1:55:16
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is how I would that bullet and if you're
1:55:19
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talking Council we've got a long ways to
1:55:21
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go and if we can get that message and we
1:55:23
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need their support their financial
1:55:25
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support their Network support because
1:55:27
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they get connected businesses and you
1:55:30
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know Community leaders and tribal
1:55:32
↗
leaders and state leaders and we need
1:55:34
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their help and so we want them not to
1:55:36
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back off on the pedal we want them to
1:55:38
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push it harder
1:55:41
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okay I think the mention of the light
1:55:43
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rail is a good example of that putting
1:55:45
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our hopes on something in what 2046 is
1:55:48
↗
it seems some something that it's like I
1:55:51
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I I mean it seems kind of crazy for us
1:55:54
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to be like we're gonna get there by the
1:55:56
↗
time it's too late right and so the idea
1:55:58
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is to say instead well how do we use
1:56:01
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that power when we know where the last
1:56:02
↗
stop what is it that we want right
1:56:05
↗
recently were rejected for funding from
1:56:06
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Olympia to even examine what it would be
1:56:08
↗
to put a lid right and so it's like well
1:56:10
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that didn't work so what else are we
1:56:12
↗
going to do to say if this is the case
1:56:16
↗
what do we want right I haven't seen big
1:56:18
↗
discussions happen happen in that they
1:56:21
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that transform us from saying what big
1:56:22
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moves do we want to make we have a goal
1:56:24
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we know where we want to go so what are
1:56:26
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we going to do about it I think it's
1:56:27
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being much more passive and this may be
1:56:28
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an opportunity to talk about what is it
1:56:31
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that we want and how do we then continue
1:56:33
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to push that
1:56:35
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forward I also don't see anything right
1:56:37
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now um I know that it's a tangential
1:56:40
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thing but right now we're not talking
1:56:41
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about any inventory of um and chemicals
1:56:44
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that are being used by the city and we
1:56:45
↗
know there's a direct causality from
1:56:47
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those with carbon emissions um on the on
1:56:50
↗
the natural environment and so while it
1:56:52
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may not be a part of the metrics right
1:56:54
↗
now I do think it's an important thing
1:56:55
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for us to be tracking and to be saying
1:56:58
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how are we actually using where are we
1:57:00
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using I love those little signs that I
1:57:02
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find all over the parks right where
1:57:04
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children are playing saying this has
1:57:06
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been recently treated if you have any if
1:57:08
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you have any concerns you could go and
1:57:10
↗
call this right it's so it's most
1:57:11
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ridiculous thing I've ever seen and uh
1:57:14
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again children playing all around these
1:57:16
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you know these little signs I would love
1:57:18
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for us to be thinking about
1:57:20
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when we have um our greenhouse gas
1:57:21
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emissions that it's not just what's
1:57:23
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coming out of our exhaust pipes right
1:57:25
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there's a whole ecosystem that can be
1:57:27
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impact as well and I'd like to see a
1:57:29
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more targeting of that
1:57:31
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okay I think Nancy made a good point
1:57:35
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about talking to council here so you
1:57:37
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want to lead Council down the path of
1:57:40
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meaning to be a leader in the region and
1:57:42
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show a good example of taking care of
1:57:45
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our own house first where we can make
1:57:47
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change even though it's only one % of
1:57:50
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the total emissions of it's a at least
1:57:53
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for showing an example and can make a
1:57:56
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change there so that significant word
1:57:58
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yeah that that jumps out um by my
1:58:01
↗
council member and I see that hey look
1:58:03
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at that great um that's not
1:58:06
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reality just I think you heard it
1:58:09
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throughout your presentation needs to be
1:58:11
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kind of reformatted in a way where you
1:58:13
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lay lay out some
1:58:17
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ground steps up front
1:58:20
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how the models set how the regional
1:58:22
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efforts work before you get into the
1:58:25
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Weeds on the the numbers and Graphics
1:58:28
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sure where do we go
1:58:30
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from Dixie I think we once Dixie goes I
1:58:35
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think probably need to wrap on the
1:58:36
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section we are coming up on time so I
1:58:39
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think we're good on the slides so yes I
1:58:42
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think um and maybe we'll talk about this
1:58:44
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when we get into our goals and our
1:58:46
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retreat but uh in my opinion
1:58:49
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and I I said it before I think we need
1:58:51
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to be the squeaky wheel and I own a
1:58:53
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business in isqua and I can tell you
1:58:55
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from my perspective there is no talk
1:58:57
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about green anywhere in our world it
1:59:00
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does not come through to up um and uh
1:59:03
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and I am in a green business right so
1:59:06
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there's no incentives like I I get
1:59:08
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frustrated with this all day long
1:59:09
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there's no incentives and I have a green
1:59:11
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business why am why is this supp upon
1:59:13
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not supporting me so what that tells me
1:59:15
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is the coun we are not a priority
1:59:17
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perhaps and I know they have a lot to do
1:59:19
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government's complicated but um I think
1:59:22
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this could be a great start in us saying
1:59:24
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listen we're not going to take it
1:59:26
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anymore and we want to see change and
1:59:28
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this and you know we're here because we
1:59:29
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want to see change and so let's yeah
1:59:32
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let's like let's be a squeaky wheel
1:59:36
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that's can I just add one thing to what
1:59:39
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Dixie said and I had mentioned this
1:59:41
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before you know bringing up to what she
1:59:43
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said green businesses you know city of
1:59:46
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isqua should uh Start program programs
1:59:49
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where they give incentives for running
1:59:51
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green businesses you know there should
1:59:53
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be a carbon tax versus you know an
1:59:55
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incentive green incentive you should
1:59:58
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means there should be this discussion
2:00:00
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brought up to city council or somewhere
2:00:03
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the city needs to do that to actually
2:00:05
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get it to the community and encourage
2:00:07
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you know businesses to step up just a
2:00:10
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note for everyone's piece of information
2:00:12
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I actually get taxed extra because I
2:00:14
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have a consignment store seriously I I
2:00:17
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have to pay an extra BN tax it's not
2:00:19
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it um I have an additional 1.5% I have
2:00:22
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to pay on because it's a
2:00:25
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service I still think I should have to
2:00:26
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pay sales tax my customer should have we
2:00:29
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PID sales tax on it why are they paying
2:00:30
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that the whole another
2:00:33
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day carbon tax is not new the state
2:00:36
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state of Washington has been doing that
2:00:38
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for big Industries and big companies for
2:00:40
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a while now so you know that is
2:00:42
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something and I know it's not in your
2:00:46
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area but that is something I think City
2:00:49
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Cil should be vok this is a great segue
2:00:52
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I think for our next thing which Dave do
2:00:55
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you have everything you need because I
2:00:57
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think I think this has been very helpful
2:00:59
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I will say there is a lot here so if you
2:01:02
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have specific questions I have a number
2:01:05
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of slides pulled up on other graphs so
2:01:07
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if you want anything additional come
2:01:09
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grab me right now or afterwards and I'm
2:01:12
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happy to chat more and more and more
2:01:14
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about this with y'all so thank you
2:01:17
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for nice work a difficult topic you
2:01:21
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navigate
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there all right I think that wraps up
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our our standard agenda items the next
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item we have is proposed content for
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environmental board and Retreat um this
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Don and I think uh we're starting to
2:01:38
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hear some of like this was great we
2:01:39
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stared to hear some of the things from
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from board members that we haven't heard
2:01:42
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before I think that is the goal for this
2:01:45
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this Retreat we have coming up um we're
2:01:48
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going to be pulling together some
2:01:49
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resources to hopefully get the juices
2:01:51
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flowing in advance of the meeting but uh
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I think the biggest thing that would
2:01:55
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implore everyone in advance to be
2:01:57
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thinking about um not just what do we
2:02:00
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want to do this year but what are the
2:02:01
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goals for isapa in the longer term what
2:02:03
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what should the goals of the
2:02:05
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environmental board be that are
2:02:07
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consistent five years from now 10 years
2:02:09
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from now um and that we make sure that
2:02:11
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we are uh are staying on top of
2:02:13
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regardless of what else might be going
2:02:15
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on within the city that we're always
2:02:16
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staying on top of so um I our goal is to
2:02:19
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provide some more context some more
2:02:22
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inspiration uh for materials in advance
2:02:25
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of that meeting but that's something
2:02:27
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that I hope everyone comes into that
2:02:29
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meeting feeling like uh you've given
2:02:31
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that some thought that you you you've
2:02:33
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thought about what you're passionate
2:02:34
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about you've thought about how uh the
2:02:37
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things that you'd like to see happen in
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the city uh and what the board could be
2:02:40
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doing to to help those things because I
2:02:43
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think that's overall what our a lot of
2:02:46
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the feedback out of the survey was was
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we just didn't feel like the identity
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like we didn't have an identity as a
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board as much as we felt like we should
2:02:53
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so I think this is our opportunity to
2:02:55
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have a conversation about what is our
2:02:56
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identity what are our longer term goals
2:02:59
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um and how how do we go about doing that
2:03:02
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so there's more detail to com on I don't
2:03:04
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know if you have any to add to that um
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just format we talked about having you
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know multiple tables maybe three to four
2:03:11
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people per table if we get some council
2:03:13
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members there have a council member or
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so at each table um I'll throw out an
2:03:18
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idea
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if we can p them on the council
2:03:21
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membership table maybe we can quiz them
2:03:23
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up front you know have them bring the
2:03:25
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top three goals for the environmental
2:03:27
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board over the next five 10 years and
2:03:30
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then you could bounce back your goals to
2:03:32
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council member discussion on that see
2:03:35
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where we land against where they land
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and yeah to Echo what jie said don't
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think about it as a 24 work plan meeting
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um we want to think about it more as a
2:03:46
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long
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term driving force environmental course
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and I I we we may have some other
2:03:53
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attendance I don't think that that's
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going to be a major component so I do
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think the majority of who you'll be
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talking to there will be board members
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and it's it's about getting your
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perspective I think if some others join
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from counselor that that will be yeah
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they might be able to provide and they
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will be able to provide some valuable
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context but at the end of the day it's
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about us and you all bringing your
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perspective so don't feel like if if
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someone shows up that is on Council we
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don't know if that's going to happen um
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so I wouldn't rely on that and even if
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they do I think this is still about your
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perspectives like to a certain extent
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they don't matter this is our meeting so
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let's make sure that we don't we don't
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get turned off by what anyone else might
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say like it is I think the end of the
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day about us bringing our perspectives
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and coming to the table I think also
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getting to know each other with better I
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think that'll be a fun opportunity as as
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a result of this too we do have a social
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component like we're going to spend some
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time before before we launch into all
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the the things that Don mentioned about
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uh just to get to know each other better
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I think that was feedback that came out
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of the survey as well that uh will help
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us help us be a stronger unit get to
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know each
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other public and private do they get
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participate it'll be a public meeting um
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I think one component we might talk
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about at that meeting is um Community
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engagement um if there is time that
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could be one of the agenda items but it
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will be a public meeting so we have
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round tables that we're sitting at five
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or six will the public sit with us at at
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each table um we're going to we're
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having a planning meeting with Andrea SN
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our Deputy City administrator soon um so
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we can talk about that
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opportunity yeah that that was not the
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intent right now but we can at this
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point but we can discuss that as
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option
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yeah suggestions and well I see you out
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hry so um I do think one the other
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things that please feel free if you have
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there's things that you think should
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happen during this meeting that you
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really want as priorities either format
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or otherwise please make sure to send
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that to Stacy you can include Don and I
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you'd like but Stacy and David to make
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sure that that that's getting
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Incorporated um because yeah again we do
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want to make this have like we have a
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starting point for what we hope would be
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a valuable process and format for
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everyone but we want to make sure that
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you guys are also uh providing input on
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on how to best come together during that
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meeting so that's part of the reason we
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wanted to give you a little bit of
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context on what it was going to look
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like so that you would have the ability
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to react and and send along any other
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requests or or
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suggestions so and go
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ahead will there be snacks or shall we
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make it a
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potluck I
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requested turned down but I think we'll
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we'll figure out a way just to at least
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get some some drinks and cookies there
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so but we'll send more information um
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folks are welcome to bring their dinner
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or shared snacks too we had shared
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snacks at our December meeting for those
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of you that missed it yeah I mean we
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could easily make it a potluck right it
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is during dinner time from 5:30 to
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8:30 we'll be sending out a lot more
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information next week
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cool I think with that that is our one
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report um and one other uh other
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businessman announcement nice two
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minutes of quick updates I'll try and
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keep it to two minutes um really quick
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updates on Council January 2nd they did
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approve the um Municipal Building
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decarbonization resolution with an
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amendment to include a work plan that
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would be delivered at the end of the
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project and presented to back to count
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Council and the um environmental board
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to kind of provide Direction on what are
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the next steps coming out of the
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analysis um David's working to finalize
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the scope of work um and we anticipate
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we'll be bringing that report to you all
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um this summer um and demonstrating
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alignment with any proposed budget
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requests um next week going before
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council is approval of a um just under
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$100,000 solar plus storage Grant from
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Commerce this is for our resilience Hub
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project that we've mentioned several
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times have not talked to you about in
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detail but we will um be doing so in the
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future um also a solid waste assistance
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grant that's going to continue our work
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with schools on restarting their
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Recycling and composting program as well
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as bringing um some waste reduction
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efforts to City sponsored and Community
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sponsored
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events um February 5th then going before
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council is the envir enal board report
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and um the greenhouse gas inventory um
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I'll make another note about that
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meeting in just a moment um couple other
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quick items I wanted to mention I was
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going to have David talk about the Evans
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school project I'll just mention it
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really quick um some of you may be
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familiar with the University of
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Washington Evans school um it they have
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graduate students that um perform as
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consultants for um public entities for
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the most part we were lucky enough to
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get one of those cohorts this year and
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they're going to be working with us on a
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carbon sequestration project identifying
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um programs that we could initiate on
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private and public lands to support
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carbon sequestration that scope is still
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being refined um but we anticipate
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having them come and talk to the board
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at the end of that project in the June
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time
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period um within your pocket was our
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working draft work plan that will be in
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informed by our discussions at The
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Retreat while we'll be talking kind of
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longer term as Jamie was mentioning we
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will use those conversations to inform
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our short-term work plan um but just
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wanted to continue to provide that to
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you so you have a heads up on what staff
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anticipate meeting to bring to the board
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um but again we'll be reworking that
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based on um outcomes of the
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retreat um real quick uh just to
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highlight some of the upcoming meetings
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and I did this in the recent email um we
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have the January 25th Retreat January
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31st we have another special meeting to
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review the full um environmental
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stewardship and climate resilience
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element um we will be sending out that
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full element around the 19th to allow
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time for folks to review Send us track
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changes send written comments ahead of
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the January 31st meeting for those of
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you that were around last year um we're
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anticipating running that meeting
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meeting somewhat like we did Title 18 I
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know it was a very painful for 4-Hour
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meeting but it was very productive and
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it was very valuable having those
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comments ahead of time so we could work
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through them all at a board so
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anticipate that later this month um I
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know we're asking a lot of you in
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January um and then February 5th we do
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meet with Council um to present the
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board report and greenhouse gas
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inventory um you do not all need to be
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there is optional Jamie and Don are
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planning to be there um you are all
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invited um as we share the results of
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that report and hopefully some of the
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results of our Retreat as well I can
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send out another reminder about that um
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and then the last meeting I'll just
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highlight is our regular scheduled
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meeting for February is February 14th I
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am in conversations with the Parks Board
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about possibly having a joint meeting at
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the end of February to discuss the urban
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forestry management plan if that gets
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scheduled I would like to cancel the
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February 14th meeting because we do not
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need more special meetings on our
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calendar but we may see a shift in the
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timing of that or sorry of that
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meeting that was a lot any question I
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can send um I'll send another summary
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out of those upcoming meetings um in the
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future but any questions
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on for
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now
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okay it's a busy January thank you we
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have a lot but hope to lighten your load
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later in
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there thank
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you
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