Environmental Board · Wednesday, September 14, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of August 10, 2022

packet pp.3–4

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 08-10-22 Environmental Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. August 10, 2022 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. AGENDA ITEMS

King County Re+ Program

Information · Amy Ockerlander, John Walsh and Brian Halverson, King County Solid Waste · packet pp.5–18

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Staff report:

King County Solid Waste Division AGENDA ITEMS a)

Natural Environment Checklist

Discussion · Christian Geitz, Planning Manager Doug Yormick, Assistant Planner · packet pp.19–87

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Staff report:

Community Planning & Development 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

5. REPORTS

Title 18 Update and ICAP Crosswalk

Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.89–92

Topics: Land UseTransportationClimate

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Staff report:

Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Environmental Board Schedule

Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.93–95

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Staff report:

2022 Environmental Board Schedule (tentative) All meetings are at 6:30 unless noted otherwise. (updated 8/31/22)

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0:02 ↗ all right welcome to the uh september

0:04 ↗ 14th meeting of the ischool

0:06 ↗ environmental board i'm jamie finch and

0:08 ↗ i'll be your chair tonight

0:09 ↗ um due to the hybrid nature of this

0:11 ↗ meeting we will have some members

0:13 ↗ attending in person and others by

0:14 ↗ computer or phone for all meeting

0:16 ↗ attendees attending remotely please

0:18 ↗ state your name each time before

0:20 ↗ speaking if uh mute your microphone when

0:22 ↗ not speaking and then commissioners if

0:25 ↗ you have a desire to speak i am now

0:27 ↗ positioned at the back so i can actually

0:29 ↗ see when you tip your signs

0:31 ↗ but please do that if you would like to

0:33 ↗ speak

0:34 ↗ [Music]

0:35 ↗ as we've been doing at the end of major

0:38 ↗ sections of the agenda we will be

0:40 ↗ summarizing

0:42 ↗ the discussion um and asking for kind of

0:45 ↗ a quick thumbs up thumbs down whether uh

0:48 ↗ board members feel that captures

0:50 ↗ um what the discussion was

0:52 ↗ i think from there stacey could probably

0:55 ↗ jump into

0:56 ↗ attendance um

0:59 ↗ so if you want to run through that be

1:01 ↗ great great

1:03 ↗ tom anderson here

1:05 ↗ nathaniel

1:06 ↗ nothing

1:08 ↗ uh

1:10 ↗ nancy davidson here

1:12 ↗ jamie finch here

1:15 ↗ cameron fisher has an excuse absence

1:17 ↗ rishi hazrat here

1:20 ↗ dan hintz has unexcused absence laura

1:22 ↗ levaco has an excuse absence

1:25 ↗ uh ashman monacarron

1:29 ↗ john mcwilliams here

1:31 ↗ and newcomer

1:32 ↗ here and janet wall has an excused

1:35 ↗ absence

1:37 ↗ hey thank you stacey next up we have

1:41 ↗ approval of the minutes

1:43 ↗ does anyone have any comments on

1:46 ↗ minutes from august 10th

1:52 ↗ hearing none those are approved by

1:53 ↗ unanimous consent

1:55 ↗ and then up next i believe we have

1:57 ↗ public comments i think i know we have

2:00 ↗ at least one member of the public that's

2:01 ↗ interested in speaking this

2:03 ↗ and being raised

2:07 ↗ so i think general guidelines for public

2:10 ↗ comment um looks like we have attendees

2:12 ↗ coming in via

2:14 ↗ web platform so skip the phone part um

2:18 ↗ but please unmute your microphone state

2:20 ↗ your name address and relationship to

2:22 ↗ the city

2:23 ↗ speak clearly and pause frequently

2:24 ↗ please limit comments to five minutes

2:27 ↗ and then we ask that you need your

2:28 ↗ microphone when done and then stacey do

2:30 ↗ you want to run through if there's any

2:32 ↗ anyone else that beyond who we have

2:35 ↗ already indicated desired speed great

2:37 ↗ and it looks like we do have one

2:39 ↗ foam collar if you do want to run

2:41 ↗ through

2:44 ↗ if you're on the phone please press star

2:47 ↗ 3

2:48 ↗ to indicate your desire to speak and

2:49 ↗ then i believe um

2:51 ↗ stacy will be able to help you with

2:53 ↗ muting and unmuting

2:54 ↗ um i don't know if we've

2:57 ↗ we figured out who that is attending by

2:59 ↗ python

3:02 ↗ um

3:02 ↗ well maybe we'll if you just want to run

3:04 ↗ through um maybe the first person that

3:07 ↗ indicated they want to speak

3:09 ↗ that person is interested great so um

3:12 ↗ and just wanted to acknowledge too that

3:13 ↗ we did

3:14 ↗ receive two written comments from connie

3:17 ↗ marsh one was project specific on the

3:18 ↗ rally pipeline the other was on icap

3:21 ↗ input on channel 18.

3:23 ↗ um connie i will go ahead and unmute you

3:28 ↗ and

3:28 ↗ you should be able to turn on your video

3:30 ↗ as well

3:32 ↗ i

3:33 ↗ um i'm assuming connie marsh yes i'm

3:36 ↗ assuming that you

3:38 ↗ uh read the

3:39 ↗ emails so i'm moving on to something

3:42 ↗ different and i'll wind up for those at

3:43 ↗ the end

3:44 ↗ so first thing is the king county

3:47 ↗ um and i was reading the waste stuff

3:51 ↗ and what struck me is we're chasing a

3:54 ↗ running beast so the first thing that

3:56 ↗ needs to happen is you actually have to

3:58 ↗ address lifestyle changes and don't buy

4:02 ↗ use your old stuff more and then if

4:05 ↗ you're gonna buy buy used and then you

4:07 ↗ can go into the whole waste stream thing

4:10 ↗ so as i was cruising through marymore

4:12 ↗ park and thinking of my life most of the

4:16 ↗ large parks in major cities have big

4:19 ↗ swap meet antique show

4:21 ↗ type things in in one big park and they

4:25 ↗ invite their charities to fundraise and

4:27 ↗ sell used stuff

4:29 ↗ and they help support the cost and

4:32 ↗ people come out and they sell their

4:34 ↗ stuff and they buy you stuff and they

4:36 ↗ have a great time and that is one way

4:38 ↗ that a person could highlight um and

4:41 ↗ make cool

4:43 ↗ not going to target and buying new stuff

4:46 ↗ that you then throw away

4:48 ↗ moving on to the board checklist

4:51 ↗ um

4:52 ↗ ah

4:53 ↗ well i'm going back to its heart it was

4:56 ↗ envisioned as a database that showed the

5:00 ↗ actual impacts and then the mitigations

5:03 ↗ for impacts that was supposed to be

5:05 ↗ carried over time to see if we are

5:08 ↗ actually

5:09 ↗ me meeting our goals and so

5:12 ↗ it seems to me it needs to be super

5:14 ↗ short super accurate data driven with

5:18 ↗ summary pieces

5:20 ↗ on how the projects did not fit with the

5:22 ↗ environmental goals

5:24 ↗ per project and then a larger summary at

5:27 ↗ the end of the year as to whether the

5:30 ↗ entire code as a whole is in keeping and

5:33 ↗ fitting with our overall arching

5:35 ↗ environmental goals i don't think this

5:38 ↗ checklist does that but i think that's

5:40 ↗ what it should do

5:43 ↗ so on to the ppc information that i sent

5:46 ↗ out i tried to show you how ppc was

5:50 ↗ focused in this conversation that was

5:52 ↗ presented

5:53 ↗ um

5:54 ↗ and so hopefully you read it and and

5:56 ↗ understand that focus and one note is

5:59 ↗ that the staff keeps raising the cepa

6:02 ↗ limits

6:03 ↗ to 20 and 30 thousand this time it's

6:05 ↗ twenty thousand no matter how many times

6:07 ↗ ppc says they want it lower than that

6:10 ↗ and i'm not sure

6:12 ↗ why the there is this push but i thought

6:14 ↗ you should be aware that this push kept

6:17 ↗ happening uh thank you

6:23 ↗ thank you connie

6:27 ↗ i do not see anyone else indicating

6:30 ↗ they'd like to speak

6:32 ↗ all right well with that then we'll move

6:35 ↗ into

6:36 ↗ the core of our agenda um the first item

6:40 ↗ is the king county three plus program

6:43 ↗ um so i don't know if stacy if you want

6:46 ↗ to introduce the members joining or if

6:49 ↗ they just want to introduce themselves

6:51 ↗ they can take it away

6:52 ↗ sure yeah i think just a note for the

6:54 ↗ board um

6:55 ↗ the request came in to the mayor for a

6:58 ↗ presentation she asked that this come to

7:00 ↗ the environmental board first so i think

7:03 ↗ tonight is mostly informational and and

7:05 ↗ we'll see where we go from there

7:07 ↗ um john anyone else from your team that

7:09 ↗ i should um make sure is unmuted or are

7:12 ↗ you the primary presenter

7:14 ↗ i see amy ockerland or she's our

7:15 ↗ government relations person and then uh

7:17 ↗ kat mclaughlin is actually here he's the

7:18 ↗ division director

7:37 ↗ come on

7:49 ↗ should i just start

7:52 ↗ sorry i'm trying i'm

7:53 ↗ reorganizing my screen so i can see

7:58 ↗ all right go ahead

7:59 ↗ cool yes i'm john also mds strategy and

8:02 ↗ performance section manager for king

8:03 ↗ county waste uh solid waste division uh

8:05 ↗ so my team works on things like replus

8:08 ↗ or rates or long-term planning things

8:09 ↗ like that

8:10 ↗ uh yeah i'm here to talk about this new

8:12 ↗ county program that we're calling replus

8:13 ↗ uh hopefully you're able to see that gif

8:15 ↗ so if you saw there was kind of like a

8:16 ↗ rolodex and you saw all those kind of

8:18 ↗ rewards spinning around uh that's to

8:20 ↗ just kind of help us explain oh sorry

8:22 ↗ can you go back one that's to help us

8:23 ↗ explain

8:24 ↗ uh sort of what the program is right

8:25 ↗ because um when you think about anything

8:28 ↗ that's that has to do with reducing

8:29 ↗ waste or waste prevention all those

8:31 ↗ words start with re right you could

8:33 ↗ recycle that piece of paper or reuse

8:35 ↗ that water bottle repair that bike

8:36 ↗ restore that piece of furniture et

8:38 ↗ cetera et cetera right all those rewards

8:39 ↗ so um replus is a way for us to capture

8:42 ↗ all those words and really what we want

8:44 ↗ people to think about is

8:45 ↗ before we throw that thing away see if

8:47 ↗ you can replace it instead right kind of

8:48 ↗ what that

8:50 ↗ person in the public was saying earlier

8:51 ↗ right it's all about reuse and

8:52 ↗ prevention and things upstream

8:54 ↗ before people even buy something and

8:56 ↗ then throw it away so next slide please

9:02 ↗ so this is just a quick look at our

9:03 ↗ mission and our vision statement

9:05 ↗ really replaces our program to reach the

9:07 ↗ county's zero waste of resources goal

9:09 ↗ so about 70 of what currently gets

9:11 ↗ thrown away every year is useful right

9:13 ↗ it's things like cardboard metal food

9:15 ↗ all that stuff uh that that could all be

9:17 ↗ put to better and more useful purposes

9:19 ↗ than just ending up in our landfill

9:20 ↗ right so the replus mission is really

9:22 ↗ about

9:23 ↗ trying to find ways to prevent that from

9:25 ↗ even coming into our system uh or

9:26 ↗ finding a better place for it through

9:28 ↗ through recycling and things like that

9:29 ↗ so

9:30 ↗ uh next slide please

9:33 ↗ then replace is a call to action there's

9:35 ↗ a lot of text on here i'm not going to

9:36 ↗ read it all um but you know this is

9:38 ↗ really highlighted in several county and

9:40 ↗ city uh documents right one is the

9:41 ↗ strategic climate action plan you can

9:43 ↗ see there says zero food waste in the

9:44 ↗ landfill by 2030.

9:46 ↗ it's been in king county code since the

9:48 ↗ early 2000s so you can see another

9:50 ↗ reference to zero waste of resources by

9:51 ↗ 2030 there

9:53 ↗ we have our king county equity and

9:54 ↗ social justice strategic plan here

9:56 ↗ because we want to make sure that we're

9:57 ↗ doing this in a way that you know

9:58 ↗ includes the community that doesn't

10:00 ↗ further any you know

10:02 ↗ burdens or anything like that so you

10:04 ↗ want to you know how we do it is

10:05 ↗ important too so we're using our esj

10:06 ↗ strategic plan to help us guide us there

10:08 ↗ uh it's also in the k4c that's the

10:11 ↗ king county cities for climate change

10:14 ↗ commitment so you can see uh also in

10:16 ↗ there there's zero zero waste of

10:17 ↗ resources by 2030 and then the

10:18 ↗ comprehensive solid waste management

10:20 ↗ plan that was adopted in 2019 also has

10:22 ↗ the references so really um you know

10:24 ↗ just kind of wanted to show that this

10:25 ↗ has been something we've been talking

10:26 ↗ about uh for quite a long time now and

10:28 ↗ it's in a lot of our kind of regional

10:30 ↗ commitment documents and so we're really

10:32 ↗ trying to

10:32 ↗ just deliver on this very important goal

10:34 ↗ that we have as a region

10:37 ↗ next slide please

10:41 ↗ so the next few slides get into some

10:43 ↗ survey research we did we just completed

10:45 ↗ a public survey last month

10:47 ↗ we enlisted emc research to do this and

10:50 ↗ um they asked several questions but i

10:51 ↗ just pulled up a couple of them so what

10:53 ↗ this site shows is that just hearing a

10:55 ↗ brief introductory statement about

10:56 ↗ replus there's already strong support

10:58 ↗ you can see about 63 supported it eight

11:01 ↗ percent opposed it and then 29 had never

11:03 ↗ really heard of it before

11:04 ↗ um next slide please

11:07 ↗ john quick question for you do you

11:08 ↗ prefer to take

11:10 ↗ questions as we go or at the end

11:14 ↗ uh as we go it's fine yeah it's okay to

11:16 ↗ interrupt

11:20 ↗ are there are there any questions i

11:22 ↗ guess maybe stop there

11:24 ↗ clear on how we should uh how we should

11:26 ↗ engage so

11:27 ↗ okay

11:29 ↗ gotcha okay um so this is just another

11:31 ↗ slide that shows like some more general

11:33 ↗ questions around waste prevention and

11:34 ↗ recycling and reduction um and this is

11:37 ↗ also really good results you can see the

11:38 ↗ top two right the first one says that 91

11:40 ↗ percent of people want to have

11:42 ↗ harmonized recycling across our service

11:44 ↗ area right so we have a situation where

11:46 ↗ what you can recycle difference

11:48 ↗ differs you know depending on where you

11:49 ↗ live work and play um the second

11:51 ↗ question also says really strong support

11:53 ↗ 91

11:55 ↗ for enacting legislation and

11:56 ↗ technologies to recycle more and reduce

11:58 ↗ waste so um there's eight questions here

12:01 ↗ and you know the lowest one had 67

12:02 ↗ percent approval so again most folks

12:05 ↗ that took the survey just seemed to be

12:06 ↗ really supportive of just these concepts

12:08 ↗ in general around waste prevention and

12:09 ↗ reduction

12:11 ↗ uh next slide please

12:13 ↗ and this is kind of the payoff side so

12:15 ↗ you know two slides ago i showed that's

12:17 ↗ what was on the left right just hearing

12:18 ↗ a brief statement that was kind of the

12:19 ↗ initial gut

12:21 ↗ reaction of folks and then on the right

12:22 ↗ that's what happened after we just said

12:23 ↗ a couple couple statements around replus

12:26 ↗ basically and you can see the support

12:28 ↗ went up 26 right up to 88 percent uh

12:31 ↗ opposition only went up two so it went

12:33 ↗ from eight to ten percent and then

12:35 ↗ at 29 that had never heard of it or

12:37 ↗ didn't have any idea about it went down

12:38 ↗ to zero right so uh you know the big pay

12:41 ↗ or take away here is just you know it it

12:43 ↗ didn't take a lot of effort to sort of

12:44 ↗ explain the program and people just kind

12:46 ↗ of further bought into it once he heard

12:48 ↗ about it so

12:49 ↗ oh we feel like that's just really

12:50 ↗ encouraging uh news as we try to roll

12:52 ↗ out this new program so

12:55 ↗ john we do have a question from

12:58 ↗ sure hi john i'm curious you're talking

13:01 ↗ about the support that you've received

13:03 ↗ is this from

13:06 ↗ in the community is it from businesses

13:09 ↗ is it what it who did you survey as part

13:11 ↗ of this

13:12 ↗ yeah this was uh all residences so i

13:14 ↗ think i forget the number i think there

13:16 ↗ was over a thousand

13:18 ↗ uh

13:19 ↗ you know people in the number on the

13:20 ↗ survey um

13:22 ↗ and then we've been doing some focus

13:24 ↗ groups and a couple of just kind of more

13:25 ↗ individual discussions with certain

13:27 ↗ stakeholders too around this so

13:29 ↗ did you look across the various social

13:31 ↗ structures of the county or was it

13:35 ↗ yeah we we tried to uh it was broken out

13:38 ↗ by uh you know gender and racial

13:40 ↗ demographics uh it's also broken out i

13:42 ↗ think by unincorporated versus

13:44 ↗ incorporated uh things like that so

13:46 ↗ and yeah we have other slides that show

13:48 ↗ uh some more like i guess they're called

13:50 ↗ crosstabs on it and like really kind of

13:52 ↗ across all of those

13:54 ↗ however you sort of sliced it and diced

13:56 ↗ it it was just very positive across all

13:57 ↗ of those different uh demographic uh

14:00 ↗ categories so

14:02 ↗ thank you

14:06 ↗ next slide please

14:09 ↗ so here's just some context before we

14:11 ↗ jump into you know more specifically

14:12 ↗ what is replus about um in king county's

14:14 ↗ 50 year history of waste management

14:16 ↗ you know this includes a lot of

14:17 ↗ innovation such as establishing one of

14:19 ↗ the nation's first curbside recycling

14:21 ↗ programs uh also increasing diversion of

14:24 ↗ our construction and demolition

14:25 ↗ recycling uh and then you know

14:27 ↗ implementing collection of yard waste so

14:29 ↗ in 2018 uh we recycled 1 million tons

14:32 ↗ versus throwing away 800 000 tons so

14:35 ↗ that you know led to one of the highest

14:36 ↗ recycling rates at about 54

14:39 ↗ as you can see on the on the green table

14:41 ↗ there um however we're also lagging in a

14:43 ↗ few areas right like many cities uh

14:45 ↗ collect garbage every week but collect

14:47 ↗ organics and recycling every other week

14:49 ↗ so that's an opportunity where we can

14:50 ↗ maybe flip those two around uh extended

14:52 ↗ producer responsibility has been

14:54 ↗ implemented in uh many european

14:56 ↗ countries and i found out we're actually

14:57 ↗ the last

14:59 ↗ state on the west coast that does not

15:00 ↗ have an epr program um and epr is all

15:03 ↗ about making or having

15:05 ↗ producers you know coca-cola amazon etc

15:08 ↗ take more responsibility for their

15:10 ↗ products how they're made and helping

15:11 ↗ them get recycled more um

15:14 ↗ and then around 15 of what gets thrown

15:15 ↗ away is food this is about a hundred

15:17 ↗ thousand tons of foods that's a lot of a

15:19 ↗ lot of food going to waste and that all

15:20 ↗ just ends up in the landfill so um

15:23 ↗ and then the green visual you know even

15:25 ↗ though i just mentioned 54 is great

15:27 ↗ right for a recycling rate you know the

15:28 ↗ us average is around 30

15:30 ↗ i think 32 or so

15:32 ↗ you can see we basically kind of

15:34 ↗ plateaued right i mean we've been stuck

15:36 ↗ between 50 and 54

15:38 ↗ for this for the last seven years but

15:40 ↗ even if we went back even further you

15:41 ↗ would see it's just been kind of kind of

15:43 ↗ flattened out so really the replus

15:44 ↗ program is the way to try to

15:46 ↗ uh get us to the next level right kind

15:48 ↗ of break through this plateau and

15:49 ↗ increase recycling and diversion as much

15:51 ↗ as we can so

15:56 ↗ um i was curious do you have a

15:58 ↗ this is probably hard

16:00 ↗ um

16:01 ↗ i'm not sure how you get this data but

16:03 ↗ of the 46 that's not

16:06 ↗ like currently captured do you like do

16:08 ↗ we know what that is like how does that

16:10 ↗ break down

16:12 ↗ yeah so let's see so these are two

16:14 ↗ kind of two different uh things well so

16:17 ↗ what we do is we have a waste

16:18 ↗ characterization study that we do every

16:20 ↗ you know three to four years we're going

16:21 ↗ through one right now and that tells us

16:23 ↗ what's in the waste stream and so

16:26 ↗ when i referenced earlier that seventy

16:27 ↗ percent of what gets thrown away

16:28 ↗ currently as value that was based on

16:29 ↗ that waste characterization study uh we

16:32 ↗ have folks that go into our transfer

16:33 ↗ stations they like they pull out the

16:35 ↗ waste they have a bunch of like

16:36 ↗ different buckets basically and so you

16:38 ↗ know they throw the metal in that bucket

16:40 ↗ the

16:40 ↗ diapers which is actually trash in a

16:42 ↗ different bucket and you know paper

16:43 ↗ plastic etc um so they do what's called

16:45 ↗ a waste sort

16:47 ↗ and so the based on the i think it's the

16:48 ↗ 2019 waste characterization study that's

16:51 ↗ where we found that yeah about 70 could

16:53 ↗ have uh could have been really been

16:54 ↗ recycled instead so

16:57 ↗ so i think my question is on the

16:59 ↗ specific chart that's shown here

17:02 ↗ um

17:03 ↗ like this implies that 46

17:07 ↗ the other side of the 54 is not recycled

17:10 ↗ i was curious if we know what types of

17:12 ↗ materials

17:13 ↗ make up the bulk of that or how that

17:15 ↗ breaks down below

17:17 ↗ just kind of a

17:18 ↗ overall number

17:20 ↗ yeah the so

17:22 ↗ the 46 percent is about 800 000 tons of

17:25 ↗ garbage

17:26 ↗ um

17:27 ↗ i don't have it in front of me i think

17:28 ↗ food makes up about a third of that

17:31 ↗ a third of that eight hundred thousand i

17:32 ↗ think plastic actually it's kind of

17:34 ↗ actually it's on the next couple of

17:35 ↗ slides actually yeah sorry the civil

17:36 ↗ sites actually have a parenthesis that

17:38 ↗ says how much of the waste stream

17:39 ↗ uh plastic and paper and all that stuff

17:41 ↗ makes up so

17:43 ↗ the 54 is the total of the entire waste

17:46 ↗ stream that is recycled and by tonnage

17:49 ↗ presumably is that that's how that

17:51 ↗ number is calculated

17:53 ↗ no so this is this takes uh the total

17:56 ↗ tons of

17:58 ↗ um materials recycled right so like that

18:00 ↗ goes through what's called a material

18:01 ↗ recovery facility in our area so that's

18:03 ↗ like the actual recycling number and

18:05 ↗ then it's divided by the total tonnage

18:07 ↗ that we get at our landfill so that's

18:08 ↗ the trash and then it adds back in that

18:10 ↗ recycling amount so it's a it's a

18:13 ↗ it's that kind of proportion i guess

18:15 ↗ recycling divided by disposable plus

18:16 ↗ recycling

18:18 ↗ okay that's helpful i i thought it might

18:20 ↗ have more i feel like of total what

18:22 ↗ could be recycled we are recycling at a

18:24 ↗ rate of 54 but it's really of our total

18:26 ↗ base street

18:28 ↗ yeah total generation yeah garbage plus

18:31 ↗ recycling yeah the total amount that's

18:32 ↗ generated so

18:39 ↗ uh so this slide is just kind of a look

18:41 ↗ ahead of like what does zero raise to

18:42 ↗ zero waste of resources look like by

18:44 ↗ 2030 right so if we're successful in

18:46 ↗ this program uh you can see a lot of

18:48 ↗ amazing things here right 465 000 less

18:51 ↗ tons of waste being thrown away right if

18:53 ↗ we're actually going to recycle this you

18:54 ↗ know all the paper and things like

18:56 ↗ cardboard that comes up in our trash

18:58 ↗ right now that could save a million or

19:00 ↗ more trees right i mentioned earlier

19:02 ↗ this is like a 100 000 tons of food and

19:05 ↗ you know of the edible portion of that

19:06 ↗ that could you know feed 92 000 people a

19:08 ↗ year

19:09 ↗ it's also want to highlight you know

19:10 ↗ potentially 500 or more green jobs are

19:12 ↗ created right so replus can really be a

19:14 ↗ job growth engine um

19:16 ↗ you know new capital projects are going

19:18 ↗ to have to be built to process this

19:19 ↗ waste we're going to need people to pick

19:20 ↗ up the waste and you know transport it

19:23 ↗ so a lot of new green jobs could be

19:25 ↗ created 24 million in future cost uh

19:27 ↗ future disposal cost avoidance so this

19:29 ↗ you know this is us assuming that we

19:31 ↗ export waste in the future and so

19:33 ↗ if we're not exporting 465 000 tons you

19:36 ↗ multiply that by the per ton you know

19:38 ↗ rate to export it and that could save us

19:40 ↗ again 24 million dollars there and then

19:42 ↗ the 150 000 fewer barrels of oil burn

19:45 ↗ that's based on the amount of plastic

19:46 ↗ that also gets thrown away and instead

19:48 ↗ of throwing it away it actually gets

19:49 ↗ recycled again

19:50 ↗ we can save a lot of uh burning of oil

19:52 ↗ there so a lot of really great benefits

19:54 ↗ you know tangible benefits uh to

19:56 ↗ mitigating climate change as well so

19:59 ↗ john we do have a question from ann

20:01 ↗ sure

20:03 ↗ john i was just wondering if this is

20:04 ↗ these are annual numbers so every year

20:07 ↗ we would save this much

20:09 ↗ yeah so really the

20:10 ↗ let's see the tons of waste that's about

20:13 ↗ annual million trees is annual uh the

20:15 ↗ food is in i think the only one that's

20:16 ↗ not is actually the 500 green jobs

20:18 ↗ created that's saying like if we were

20:20 ↗ able to

20:21 ↗ you know reduce our tonnage from that

20:22 ↗ eight hundred thousand the summer in the

20:24 ↗ three four hundred thousand range uh it

20:26 ↗ could it could potentially create 500

20:28 ↗ new jobs so

20:30 ↗ cool

20:36 ↗ okay so um this one yeah so organic so

20:39 ↗ that's the food waste uh the yard waste

20:42 ↗ and the wood waste that makes up twenty

20:43 ↗ percent um about eight hundred thousand

20:46 ↗ earlier right that gets thrown away um

20:48 ↗ so this is one of our initial focuses

20:49 ↗ because it's such a big piece of the pie

20:51 ↗ right um and so

20:53 ↗ uh these for this first set of actions

20:54 ↗ is what we're calling uh replus fast

20:56 ↗ start actions um so this one one of the

20:58 ↗ first ones is this washington state

21:00 ↗ organics legislation this actually

21:01 ↗ passed earlier this year it was called

21:02 ↗ house bill 1799

21:05 ↗ and it was a comprehensive organics

21:07 ↗ management bill

21:08 ↗ that would improve access to organics

21:09 ↗ collection strengthen food donation and

21:11 ↗ rescue

21:13 ↗ in this state and then support end

21:14 ↗ markets for compost there's also

21:15 ↗ component to this actually that would um

21:18 ↗ increase organics collection from

21:19 ↗ businesses so it's going to require

21:20 ↗ businesses uh to start separating out

21:23 ↗ their waste right you may go to like a

21:24 ↗ mall or something and right now when

21:26 ↗ you're done with your food at the food

21:27 ↗ court you just got to throw it in the

21:28 ↗ garbage can right so what this is gonna

21:30 ↗ do is gonna say no you need to have a

21:31 ↗ garbage and a compost bin for people to

21:33 ↗ throw their food scraps uh so that'll

21:35 ↗ start kicking in in 2024 it'll start

21:37 ↗ with kind of the larger businesses and

21:38 ↗ then each year kind of ramp down to the

21:41 ↗ medium and smaller size businesses but

21:42 ↗ that'll unlock i think we're i think

21:44 ↗ we're thinking there's a hundred and

21:46 ↗ thirty thousand i wanna say or you know

21:48 ↗ sixty five thousand tons of food there

21:49 ↗ so a pretty big opportunity to to get

21:52 ↗ that food you know to compost it or

21:54 ↗ something else actually i'll talk about

21:55 ↗ that something else later in a sec

21:57 ↗ single family organics collection so

22:00 ↗ you know one area you want to focus is

22:02 ↗ not just on businesses but also in

22:03 ↗ single families right and uh we don't

22:06 ↗ have requirements in the unincorporated

22:07 ↗ area of king county to have organics

22:09 ↗ collections so there's an opportunity

22:10 ↗ there to increase diversion as well um

22:14 ↗ right now we're in this phase where we

22:15 ↗ want to conduct outreach uh to help us

22:17 ↗ determine what actions to take there and

22:18 ↗ some of those actions could include uh

22:20 ↗ requiring curbside collection you know

22:22 ↗ organic subscription from from

22:24 ↗ residences in the unincorporated area

22:26 ↗ implementing a food waste ban this would

22:28 ↗ be similar to like a yard waste span

22:29 ↗ right you're not allowed to put your

22:30 ↗ grass clippings in your garbage uh can

22:33 ↗ for example

22:34 ↗ uh or i mentioned this earlier reducing

22:36 ↗ garbage collection to every other week

22:37 ↗ so those are kind of three of the

22:38 ↗ options we're exploring and once we get

22:40 ↗ the feedback then we'll um

22:42 ↗ you know look at doing some coach agents

22:44 ↗ and things like that the hope here is

22:45 ↗ that you know we're sort of leading the

22:46 ↗ way here so there's some cities that

22:48 ↗ currently don't have uh you know some of

22:50 ↗ these things like required or

22:51 ↗ subscription service so we're hoping to

22:53 ↗ lead the way there and have some other

22:54 ↗ cities participate as well

22:56 ↗ and then

22:57 ↗ non-residential food waste recycling uh

23:00 ↗ you know it's total government speak but

23:02 ↗ uh you know earlier i mentioned this uh

23:04 ↗ house bill that was going to require

23:06 ↗ businesses to start separating out their

23:07 ↗ food so we want to find some other ways

23:09 ↗ you know to process that food so we're

23:10 ↗ really kind of uh so we're exploring

23:12 ↗ like you know could we put it through an

23:14 ↗ anaerobic digestion system or or a

23:16 ↗ co-digestion system in partnership with

23:17 ↗ our wastewater treatment division so uh

23:20 ↗ exploring some options there to to

23:21 ↗ manage that commercial food waste that's

23:23 ↗ unlocked

23:30 ↗ so plastic paper and other materials

23:32 ↗ this makes up about 26

23:34 ↗ i mentioned epr earlier right it's

23:35 ↗ extended producer responsibility uh that

23:37 ↗ was actually in the state legislation

23:38 ↗ this year unfortunately did not pass uh

23:40 ↗ but we're

23:42 ↗ you know hoping it'll pass the this next

23:43 ↗ time around next may um so again that's

23:45 ↗ about asking producers

23:48 ↗ uh to start managing their um

23:50 ↗ paper and plastic packaging right so

23:52 ↗ it'd be like increasing uh

23:55 ↗ you know how we're able to process it

23:56 ↗ and some of the communications and

23:58 ↗ education around it uh mixed waste

24:00 ↗ processing so this is you know we call

24:02 ↗ this the last screen for recyclables um

24:05 ↗ you know our effort is definitely

24:06 ↗ upstream right around waste prevention

24:08 ↗ and getting people to put things in the

24:09 ↗ right bucket uh that always doesn't

24:11 ↗ happen though right i mean still you

24:12 ↗ know things will still end up in the

24:13 ↗ garbage can and so this is just uh you

24:16 ↗ know there's some technologies out there

24:17 ↗ that can take that garbage stream and

24:19 ↗ start to kind of find some of that stuff

24:21 ↗ and sort it out uh and still send it to

24:23 ↗ you know for processing um

24:26 ↗ they're you know using air belts

24:27 ↗ technology cameras robots all that stuff

24:30 ↗ um then the next two we have next cycle

24:32 ↗ washington and replace circular economy

24:34 ↗ grant so next cycle washington is a

24:36 ↗ statewide program um i tend to describe

24:39 ↗ it as like a business accelerator like a

24:40 ↗ business incubator program right it's

24:42 ↗ really trying to get brand new

24:43 ↗ businesses off the ground and the waste

24:45 ↗ prevention and diversion space and then

24:47 ↗ replace circular economy grants is

24:48 ↗ actually we set aside two million

24:50 ↗ dollars each biennium the solid waste

24:52 ↗ division for these grants and this is

24:54 ↗ open to

24:55 ↗ you know the community businesses ngos

24:58 ↗ um

24:58 ↗ and really to me this is about getting

25:00 ↗ those kind of small and medium-sized

25:01 ↗ businesses to the next level um so we

25:04 ↗ had about 48 applicants this this last

25:06 ↗ round so i think it was like a month or

25:07 ↗ two ago um and so we're kind of sorting

25:10 ↗ through that and we'll announce some of

25:11 ↗ the winners for pretty soon but

25:13 ↗ um yes this is just some of the actions

25:14 ↗ we're taking on uh plastic paper and

25:16 ↗ other materials

25:18 ↗ could you um provide a little more

25:20 ↗ detail on the extended producer

25:22 ↗ responsibility

25:24 ↗ maybe one was proposed and what the bill

25:26 ↗ that didn't pass and then how

25:29 ↗ other western states if there's any

25:31 ↗ differences between how that was

25:32 ↗ proposed and what what's already been

25:34 ↗ approved in other states would be great

25:35 ↗ to just get a quick download on what

25:37 ↗ that looks like

25:39 ↗ um i'll try my best i'm not the subject

25:42 ↗ matter expert on this i know like what

25:43 ↗ it involved though was like creating

25:44 ↗ kind of like a

25:46 ↗ like an oversight organization so to

25:48 ↗ speak right like with producers and and

25:50 ↗ i think collect collecting collection

25:52 ↗ companies and haulers etc uh to kind of

25:54 ↗ oversee how a program like this could be

25:56 ↗ implemented um

25:59 ↗ you know so it's uh

26:01 ↗ yeah it would involve like

26:03 ↗ you know

26:04 ↗ uh

26:05 ↗ asking the producers to pay for for for

26:08 ↗ this program and pay for the oversight

26:10 ↗ board to make sure that they're hitting

26:11 ↗ the recycling targets um and the way

26:13 ↗ they hit the recycling targets is again

26:15 ↗ through like

26:16 ↗ um changing what their packaging is made

26:18 ↗ out of so if it's currently not

26:20 ↗ recyclable like moving to something that

26:21 ↗ is recyclable um and then doing more in

26:24 ↗ the communication and education space i

26:26 ↗ think to to get consumers to know you

26:29 ↗ know which is the right bin to put that

26:31 ↗ packaging or not so

26:33 ↗ um and i think it's modeled off of like

26:35 ↗ it's very similar to like the california

26:37 ↗ bill i think a bill in maine that also

26:39 ↗ passed as well

26:41 ↗ but i can get back to you with some more

26:43 ↗ information i can talk to the our epr

26:45 ↗ guy and send you some more info

26:54 ↗ okay uh and then the last space is

26:56 ↗ around community so um

26:58 ↗ we've been meeting with a community

26:59 ↗ panel of uh 10 frontline members in the

27:01 ↗ community um to really help us identify

27:04 ↗ you know what are their priorities and

27:05 ↗ attitudes around the program and like

27:07 ↗ where should we focus on next um

27:10 ↗ another thing we've been doing or we're

27:11 ↗ going to implement next year is a city

27:13 ↗ grant proposal so this is different from

27:14 ↗ that replace circular grant

27:17 ↗ program i just mentioned this is a

27:18 ↗ separate pot of money it's just for

27:19 ↗ cities um and it's really to help cities

27:22 ↗ you know further bolster their waste

27:23 ↗ prevention and recycling efforts and

27:25 ↗ then the city county collaboration so

27:27 ↗ this is really a resurrection of

27:29 ↗ something we had free pandemic uh it's

27:31 ↗ really us meeting with city recycling

27:33 ↗ coordinators and trying to get on the

27:35 ↗ same page you know standardizing

27:36 ↗ messaging around waste prevention and

27:38 ↗ recycling and again kind of talking

27:39 ↗ through some some new actions we can

27:41 ↗ implement there

27:49 ↗ and this is just kind of a summation of

27:51 ↗ a lot of those numbers that were on the

27:52 ↗ slides you can see this is what we

27:54 ↗ estimate the impacts to be um

27:56 ↗ it's a pretty big diversion right that's

27:58 ↗ 400 000 400 000 tons being diverted from

28:01 ↗ the landfill

28:02 ↗ uh when you convert that to the

28:03 ↗ greenhouse gas reductions uh you know

28:05 ↗ 200 to 300 000 tons and metric tons of

28:08 ↗ co2 equivalent annually you know i did

28:11 ↗ one of those calculator things and that

28:12 ↗ 300 000 is the equivalent of reducing

28:15 ↗ emissions from a car driving

28:17 ↗ 744 million miles so it's a lot uh you

28:20 ↗ know for successful in um

28:23 ↗ diverting and preventing this waste

28:24 ↗ there are some things to consider though

28:26 ↗ right so it takes money to implement

28:27 ↗ these actions right and so

28:29 ↗ as we're implementing new capital

28:31 ↗ projects or you know adding staff to do

28:32 ↗ this uh you know rates will likely

28:35 ↗ increase in order to to increase the

28:37 ↗ diversion uh behavior change right uh i

28:40 ↗ think someone mentioned this earlier

28:41 ↗ right it's it's about having people put

28:43 ↗ the right thing in the right bucket

28:45 ↗ right uh instead of just throwing

28:47 ↗ everything in the trash so behavior

28:48 ↗ change is definitely needed again on the

28:50 ↗ flip side though this is a a job

28:52 ↗ generator right as i mentioned earlier

28:54 ↗ we need people to process this stuff we

28:56 ↗ need people to pick it up uh we need

28:58 ↗ people to build capital facilities right

29:01 ↗ so things like that so

29:02 ↗ uh you know there's a lot of a lot of um

29:06 ↗ great benefits to it and just a few

29:07 ↗ things to consider as well

29:15 ↗ i think except one more slide so this is

29:17 ↗ just kind of bringing it back to that

29:18 ↗ survey that we talked about

29:20 ↗ um so this just shows the level of

29:22 ↗ support for a lot of those things that i

29:24 ↗ just mentioned

29:25 ↗ um right i talked about mixed ways

29:26 ↗ processing epr extended produce

29:28 ↗ responsibility uh the state organics all

29:31 ↗ that stuff and so you can see the lowest

29:32 ↗ one of these had a still had a 75

29:34 ↗ percent support rate uh based on our

29:36 ↗ survey so um

29:38 ↗ you know again i think it's just a good

29:40 ↗ touch point that you know residents

29:41 ↗ really care about the environment they

29:42 ↗ care about uh waste prevention and

29:45 ↗ recycling and it kind of shows up

29:46 ↗ through the survey results so

29:49 ↗ i think that's it for me and yeah happy

29:52 ↗ to answer any any further questions

29:56 ↗ thank you john um we have a couple

29:58 ↗ questions or a few questions starting

30:01 ↗ with nancy

30:02 ↗ i just have a quick question i think uh

30:04 ↗ one of the things that i've noticed in

30:06 ↗ the recycling program is there's a lot

30:08 ↗ of new products that have come out more

30:10 ↗ recently and i don't know where what

30:12 ↗ bennett goes in specifically and i think

30:14 ↗ there needs to be more education for

30:16 ↗ example i'll just give you my favorite

30:17 ↗ example what do you do with the amazon

30:19 ↗ bags that come to your house every day

30:21 ↗ are they recyclable are they garbage or

30:24 ↗ what and i think that kind of education

30:26 ↗ it's not very clear and there's a lot of

30:28 ↗ those bags out there so that's just one

30:30 ↗ example

30:31 ↗ for sure

30:34 ↗ nancy yeah starbucks cup what do you do

30:35 ↗ with the starbucks cup right that's the

30:37 ↗ uh i don't know the answer i i want to i

30:39 ↗ want to know the answer to that one so

30:40 ↗ you know

30:42 ↗ oh yes tom anderson here uh to help me

30:45 ↗ understand jurisdiction now you spoke a

30:47 ↗ number of times about the

30:49 ↗ collaboration between city and county

30:51 ↗ but so is it not the case that the

30:54 ↗ county has no jurisdiction in

30:56 ↗ incorporated cities and so

30:59 ↗ if you put together a program like this

31:01 ↗ it would have

31:02 ↗ no application to those areas unless you

31:06 ↗ get buy-in from the city is that correct

31:09 ↗ in many cases yeah it'll take it'll take

31:12 ↗ effort at the city state and county

31:14 ↗ level and even like consumer and

31:16 ↗ business level to make a lot of these

31:17 ↗ actions happen for sure

31:20 ↗ okay thank you

31:22 ↗ tom rishi

31:24 ↗ yeah uh hey john i just had a question

31:26 ↗ about whether there have been any like

31:28 ↗ initiatives or considerations as to um

31:30 ↗ particularly particularly bringing in

31:32 ↗ the replace program to schools uh

31:35 ↗ perhaps through the green schools

31:37 ↗ program because i know

31:38 ↗ still after the pandemic we don't have

31:40 ↗ any compost collection so all of our

31:42 ↗ food pretty much goes into garbage uh

31:46 ↗ and so that's a huge waste generator

31:47 ↗ right there and it's like a hub just

31:50 ↗ generating food waste because that's

31:51 ↗ where we all eat food every day during

31:52 ↗ school in the cafeteria so i'm wondering

31:54 ↗ if there's any reflux programs there

31:58 ↗ uh i mean we've we've touched on it you

31:59 ↗ know the the green schools program is in

32:01 ↗ our recycling section and they're

32:03 ↗ they're big players on the replus team

32:05 ↗ as well so i know there's coordination

32:06 ↗ there um

32:08 ↗ again the focus was kind of more on new

32:10 ↗ actions but yeah i definitely think we

32:11 ↗ want to like you know loop back in with

32:13 ↗ the green schools program and like how

32:14 ↗ do we sort of yeah weave in replace

32:16 ↗ language in there and maybe like what

32:18 ↗ are some new kind of messaging or

32:19 ↗ curriculums for that thing as well but

32:21 ↗ i'd say right now you know just kind of

32:23 ↗ capacity and resource constraints it's

32:25 ↗ been more focused on like what are these

32:26 ↗ new things such as like epr or uh

32:28 ↗ implementing the statewide organic spill

32:30 ↗ things like that so um but yeah i mean

32:33 ↗ that's a that's a good point to make and

32:34 ↗ i'll bring it back to the recycling

32:36 ↗ group so

32:39 ↗ anything

32:40 ↗ else yeah

32:42 ↗ right and you were up next

32:45 ↗ hey john yeah it sounds like a great

32:47 ↗ program

32:48 ↗ and um

32:50 ↗ looking forward to

32:52 ↗ helping it be a success

32:54 ↗ um

32:55 ↗ so one of the things right now that i

32:57 ↗ think is a concern with a lot of um

33:02 ↗ folks who pick up the garbage is the

33:03 ↗ wish cycling

33:05 ↗ and

33:06 ↗ i

33:07 ↗ i imagine that plastic is like the worst

33:09 ↗ thing plastic seems really confusing um

33:13 ↗ because i think

33:15 ↗ in some cases it's just like number one

33:16 ↗ and number two

33:18 ↗ is recyclable and then a lot of them are

33:20 ↗ like fives and sevens

33:22 ↗ so i like the idea of bringing it all

33:25 ↗ together so everybody

33:28 ↗ is on the same page

33:29 ↗ um

33:31 ↗ so

33:32 ↗ i imagine you're thinking about that

33:34 ↗ right about plastic

33:36 ↗ yeah we have a something called the

33:38 ↗ recycle right consortium uh so it's made

33:41 ↗ up of communication staff i think

33:43 ↗ seattle's bellevue and a couple other

33:45 ↗ cities and so that's like our kind of

33:48 ↗ our communication marketing messaging

33:50 ↗ arm

33:51 ↗ i know one of the things that came out

33:52 ↗ of that group

33:53 ↗ oh man i think it was three years ago

33:55 ↗ was like we should just stop collecting

33:57 ↗ plastic bags in the in the recycling bin

33:59 ↗ right like we did a whole video about

34:02 ↗ showing how it gets into the

34:04 ↗ material recovery facility and you know

34:05 ↗ they have like a bunch of spinning

34:06 ↗ things like they have to like shut

34:08 ↗ everything down to get those plastic

34:09 ↗ bags out of there so that was a big push

34:11 ↗ a couple years ago we should stop

34:12 ↗ putting it in the blue bin it doesn't

34:14 ↗ belong there you know the best thing is

34:16 ↗ to take it back to like you know a

34:17 ↗ target or qfc uh now there's ridwell

34:20 ↗ right ridwell takes plastic bags as well

34:22 ↗ and if you can't do any of that then

34:23 ↗ like it's better to just put it in the

34:25 ↗ trash can instead of kind of

34:27 ↗ slowing things down on the recycling

34:29 ↗ side or even contaminating a lot of

34:30 ↗ those streams but um that is where i

34:33 ↗ think that extended producer

34:34 ↗ responsibility comes into play quite a

34:36 ↗ bit right because the focus is around

34:38 ↗ plastic and paper packaging

34:40 ↗ and so the hope is that like that

34:42 ↗ oversight group and getting those

34:44 ↗ producers on board will really mitigate

34:46 ↗ uh won the use of plastic in general

34:48 ↗ right but two it's like if it is used

34:50 ↗ yeah here's the right place to take it

34:51 ↗ back to or which bin to put it in so

34:55 ↗ cool

34:56 ↗ great project

34:59 ↗ john um

35:01 ↗ if you like looking at and i guess this

35:03 ↗ doesn't necessarily have to be specific

35:04 ↗ to issaquah but i'm just curious like

35:07 ↗ you've told us about the program but

35:08 ↗ like what what's from the city what from

35:11 ↗ this board what from citizens like what

35:14 ↗ are like those things the wish list or

35:16 ↗ what you're really looking for

35:18 ↗ um buy into the the general kind of

35:21 ↗ ethos or just curious of like the

35:23 ↗ specific items that you're looking at

35:24 ↗ saying these are important things that

35:26 ↗ you should be looking at if you want to

35:27 ↗ advocate for this program

35:30 ↗ yes i think one of the the first things

35:31 ↗ we're looking for is uh we have what's

35:33 ↗ called the replus pledge out there we've

35:35 ↗ been working with our advisory

35:36 ↗ committees and cities on you know it's

35:38 ↗ it'd be similar to like the key the k4c

35:41 ↗ commitment right so we're trying to get

35:42 ↗ that regional um commitment to the

35:45 ↗ program right to the goal and everything

35:47 ↗ as mentioned earlier right it takes city

35:49 ↗ state county kind of a

35:51 ↗ regional effort to do this so that's

35:53 ↗ kind of the first thing is we want to go

35:54 ↗ out to cities and

35:56 ↗ secure some of those pledges and then i

35:58 ↗ think after that yeah it's really a

35:59 ↗ conversation about like

36:01 ↗ you know

36:02 ↗ what what more support can we provide

36:04 ↗ like i know we've kind of talked about

36:06 ↗ is there specific like contract language

36:09 ↗ that like cities should include in their

36:11 ↗ contracts with haulers right to increase

36:13 ↗ uh recycling right i mentioned earlier

36:16 ↗ there was big support around harmonized

36:18 ↗ recycling lists right so again so

36:20 ↗ you know uh recycling that

36:23 ↗ gas can is the same everywhere right

36:25 ↗ instead of like it's different in one

36:27 ↗ city versus another so i think it's like

36:29 ↗ trying to get cities to to kind of

36:30 ↗ coalesce around that harmonized

36:32 ↗ recycling list that way there is less

36:34 ↗ confusion um

36:36 ↗ you know i think part of it is uh when

36:38 ↗ we implement the statewide organic spill

36:40 ↗ again we'll have to go into businesses

36:42 ↗ and ask them to start behavior change

36:44 ↗ right they need to start you know

36:45 ↗ bringing in they need to sign up for

36:46 ↗ that food collection sir food waste

36:48 ↗ collection service they need to set

36:49 ↗ aside you know space to have that extra

36:51 ↗ bin they need to have signs up and stuff

36:53 ↗ so um there will

36:54 ↗ require technical assistance and we're

36:56 ↗ going to provide some of that as well

36:57 ↗ but you know if we can get cities to

36:58 ↗ also help out uh with the businesses in

37:01 ↗ the jurisdiction i think that would be a

37:02 ↗ big help as well so yeah this is

37:04 ↗ definitely broad reaching i think that

37:06 ↗ city county collaboration is another

37:07 ↗ area right if you ever represented on

37:09 ↗ there again it's kind of weighing in on

37:11 ↗ sort of what is the standard uh unified

37:13 ↗ approach we can take on on some of these

37:14 ↗ actions too so

37:17 ↗ okay

37:18 ↗ and on that same note

37:20 ↗ are there specific areas that like as

37:22 ↗ you guys look down the list of what you

37:24 ↗ would want or need from cities to

37:26 ↗ participate in this pledge like are

37:28 ↗ there

37:29 ↗ are there areas that you're aware of

37:31 ↗ that issaquah is is not kind of like you

37:34 ↗ have this slide of where the county's

37:35 ↗ performing well where it's not

37:36 ↗ performing as well what's that slide for

37:39 ↗ issaquah

37:40 ↗ hmm

37:41 ↗ that's a good question um

37:45 ↗ i'm not sure i have the answer i guess

37:46 ↗ i'm not sure i want to provide an answer

37:48 ↗ without knowing more about about how

37:50 ↗ your system is doing uh on some of those

37:52 ↗ things but um you know cities have a lot

37:55 ↗ of control over again those like kind of

37:57 ↗ hauling contracts right um and how those

38:00 ↗ are set up and sort of what is

38:01 ↗ designated as recyclables so um

38:04 ↗ it might be good to kind of take a look

38:06 ↗ at what what's in what's in your guys's

38:07 ↗ list compared to everybody else's um

38:10 ↗ seeing how far off we are some things

38:12 ↗ there so

38:13 ↗ yeah cause i mean i do think one area

38:15 ↗ that at least for this board it might be

38:16 ↗ different your audience might be

38:18 ↗ different if you're talking to different

38:19 ↗ to staff or

38:21 ↗ i would personally be curious of that to

38:23 ↗ see that list of like where are where do

38:25 ↗ we stand what are those opportunities

38:27 ↗ because i think

38:28 ↗ that is one of the great benefits of

38:30 ↗ that from sitting in your seat you have

38:32 ↗ probably a better look as to what other

38:35 ↗ cities are doing and and probably what's

38:37 ↗ going on nationally that that we might

38:39 ↗ not and so i do think that

38:42 ↗ really helpful to understand um

38:44 ↗ just what what what we should be

38:46 ↗ thinking about or what we might consider

38:48 ↗ um as as priorities for

38:50 ↗ everything that we're doing on our own

38:51 ↗ internal planning and

38:54 ↗ so yeah that's a great question yeah

38:56 ↗ i'll bring that back to our recycling

38:57 ↗ folks and i think yeah we would want to

38:59 ↗ coordinate with your recycling folks too

39:00 ↗ just to make sure we're all on the same

39:02 ↗ page there too

39:04 ↗ cool thank you that was everything i had

39:07 ↗ stacy all right i realized i don't have

39:08 ↗ a name card um

39:10 ↗ just uh one

39:12 ↗ comment and then a question for the

39:13 ↗ board um something we've noticed through

39:16 ↗ the lead for cities program where we've

39:17 ↗ been gathering a lot of data is that our

39:19 ↗ diversion rates are slipping not in a

39:22 ↗ good direction so essentially more

39:26 ↗ um

39:27 ↗ waste is going its waste as opposed to

39:29 ↗ recycling and so i think that's

39:30 ↗ something that we'll be working on with

39:32 ↗ fercology with their new um zero waste

39:36 ↗ employee that will work directly with us

39:38 ↗ upon under the new contract

39:40 ↗ um and then the question i had uh for

39:43 ↗ the group as john mentioned this pledge

39:46 ↗ um wondering if the environmental board

39:48 ↗ wants me to bring that back for

39:50 ↗ consideration discussion at a future

39:52 ↗ meeting and we can have a conversation

39:54 ↗ whether that's something that should go

39:56 ↗ before council

39:59 ↗ thank you

40:00 ↗ very much nice thumbs up

40:02 ↗ okay all right john i'll coordinate with

40:04 ↗ you and your team about how we could

40:06 ↗ bring that pledge back to this board for

40:09 ↗ consideration discussion and

40:10 ↗ recommendations

40:12 ↗ cool

40:16 ↗ all right any other questions

40:19 ↗ i did see a couple more slides at the

40:21 ↗ end of this is that

40:22 ↗ topics that

40:24 ↗ someone else will be covering or

40:26 ↗ in this chat

40:28 ↗ yeah we have like one master slide deck

40:30 ↗ and so rather than have like 15

40:32 ↗ different versions we sort of turn turn

40:34 ↗ certain slides on and off depending on

40:35 ↗ the

40:36 ↗ on the audience so um

40:38 ↗ but yeah

40:40 ↗ um anyone else

40:42 ↗ yeah well

40:44 ↗ just have one quick one

40:45 ↗ it's not a question but as you're

40:47 ↗ looking at um potentially this is nancy

40:49 ↗ davidson

40:51 ↗ um doing commercial business recycling

40:53 ↗ particularly for food waste those of us

40:55 ↗ in east king county have some large

40:58 ↗ animals that come through our areas and

40:59 ↗ so that's one of the things you're going

41:00 ↗ to want to be thinking about is the bear

41:02 ↗ population and

41:04 ↗ the raccoons uh it'll affect businesses

41:07 ↗ it affects residents but it will then go

41:09 ↗ to the business community so you're

41:11 ↗ gonna have to we're gonna have to think

41:12 ↗ long and hard about how this will impact

41:14 ↗ businesses along the way as the bears

41:16 ↗ move into a different area

41:23 ↗ i might just say one more thing if it's

41:25 ↗ okay so pcc used to have a digester and

41:28 ↗ they would put everything into it i

41:30 ↗ don't know

41:31 ↗ if they

41:32 ↗ i don't know what happens with the meat

41:34 ↗ but that's just a thought and then they

41:36 ↗ would turn it into fertilizer and sell

41:38 ↗ the fertilizer

41:41 ↗ so yeah one of the the really jargony

41:43 ↗ term that non what do we call it

41:44 ↗ non-residential food waste recycling

41:46 ↗ that was one of the things we're looking

41:47 ↗ at is um

41:49 ↗ there's something called co-digestion

41:50 ↗ where you can take all the food waste

41:51 ↗ you kind of

41:52 ↗ uh we call you turn into a milkshake

41:54 ↗ basically and then you you kind of pump

41:56 ↗ that milkshake into a wastewater

41:57 ↗ treatment uh plant and it kind of turbo

41:59 ↗ charges the gas production there so

42:00 ↗ that's

42:01 ↗ that's definitely one of the things

42:02 ↗ we're analyzing a lot further so

42:08 ↗ is that used as fertilizer then

42:11 ↗ uh so it creates energy and then it's

42:14 ↗ because it's through the wastewater

42:15 ↗ treatment process i think it uh

42:18 ↗ it increases their i want to say

42:19 ↗ increases their bio solids as well so

42:21 ↗ that is you know used as land

42:22 ↗ application uh i think in eastern

42:24 ↗ washington

42:29 ↗ all right

42:30 ↗ thank you john i'm just going to

42:31 ↗ summarize everything that we everything

42:33 ↗ that i at least captured in my notes um

42:37 ↗ please if there's anything that i missed

42:39 ↗ uh please let me know

42:41 ↗ some of the feedback um was around

42:44 ↗ questions about getting

42:45 ↗ this program into schools and how they

42:47 ↗ might better

42:48 ↗ get incorporated with the green schools

42:50 ↗ program um curious about education and

42:54 ↗ more outreach on basically letting

42:56 ↗ people know what is and is not

42:58 ↗ recyclable and how

43:00 ↗ uh

43:01 ↗ how what people can do to

43:03 ↗ not ruin their waste

43:05 ↗ or recyclables um with things like

43:07 ↗ plastic bags

43:09 ↗ um

43:10 ↗ there was interest um in just the

43:14 ↗ general specific actions that

43:17 ↗ city-based aquat could take and and how

43:19 ↗ biscuil might match up against other

43:21 ↗ cities

43:22 ↗ um

43:24 ↗ there was

43:25 ↗ the potential of bringing back the

43:26 ↗ pledge as that was one of the items that

43:29 ↗ um the king county team

43:31 ↗ uh mentioned as a as a as an action that

43:34 ↗ the city or this board

43:36 ↗ might be able to do to help support what

43:38 ↗ they're working on

43:41 ↗ let's see and then there was a

43:44 ↗ concern or just

43:46 ↗ interest in making sure that wildlife

43:48 ↗ was being considered

43:50 ↗ during the business implementation

43:51 ↗ portion

43:53 ↗ of the organics program so

43:55 ↗ uh any items that

43:58 ↗ i missed in that

44:01 ↗ just the ep are getting more information

44:03 ↗ on epr i'm not sure if you can join that

44:04 ↗ and i can pass that along to the board

44:08 ↗ especially ahead of the legislative

44:09 ↗ session

44:10 ↗ [Music]

44:14 ↗ great well appreciate uh appreciate the

44:16 ↗ team joining uh anything else that your

44:19 ↗ team needs from us

44:22 ↗ uh i think i talked a lot so i'm done

44:31 ↗ nice really appreciate your time yeah

44:33 ↗ that's a lot of information to digest

44:34 ↗ and i really appreciate the questions

44:35 ↗ too it shows you guys are really uh

44:37 ↗ interested in this topic too so really

44:39 ↗ appreciate it

44:42 ↗ all right well thanks thanks to you um i

44:45 ↗ think with that we

44:47 ↗ are ready to move on to our next topic

44:49 ↗ um the natural environment checklist

44:51 ↗ presented by christian getz

44:53 ↗ and doug yormick

44:56 ↗ you too

44:57 ↗ can take it away

44:58 ↗ and then i'll ask the same question just

45:00 ↗ how you would like to handle questions

45:02 ↗ as we go through this

45:05 ↗ so if you can provide

45:06 ↗ that feedback so we know going in not be

45:09 ↗ helpful

45:10 ↗ absolutely

45:12 ↗ all right

45:14 ↗ but be here tonight

45:16 ↗ in person welcome

45:19 ↗ in my third week here with the city so

45:21 ↗ my name is christian getz i'm the new

45:22 ↗ planning manager with the

45:24 ↗ cpd

45:25 ↗ department uh with me tonight uh online

45:28 ↗ is doug dormick a highly experienced

45:30 ↗ planner done a lot of environmental

45:31 ↗ projects uh secret review streaming

45:34 ↗ wetland shoreline stuff so

45:36 ↗ he's he's there to help me out if i if i

45:38 ↗ stray or if there's questions that are a

45:40 ↗ little more processed or

45:42 ↗ historically detailed that i'm unable to

45:45 ↗ answer

45:46 ↗ uh

45:47 ↗ so tonight yeah we're we're here to look

45:49 ↗ at

45:50 ↗ um a couple things project overviews the

45:53 ↗ the last ones that we've had since the

45:55 ↗ last time the group met this is our

45:57 ↗ annual review

45:59 ↗ uh so i'm going to run through those

46:00 ↗ really quickly uh pretty high level

46:03 ↗ and then get into a policy discussion so

46:05 ↗ a discussion where we're looking for

46:07 ↗ input from the board on

46:10 ↗ what your thoughts are on the checklist

46:12 ↗ if it's if it's operating the way in

46:14 ↗ which you thought

46:16 ↗ are there questions that we should be

46:17 ↗ asking

46:19 ↗ information we should be seeking at that

46:21 ↗ initial stage

46:24 ↗ so

46:25 ↗ yeah

46:26 ↗ for those that are new the checklist is

46:29 ↗ uh it's completed at the initial stages

46:31 ↗ of the project so it's very preliminary

46:33 ↗ in its form it's it's completed by the

46:35 ↗ reviewing planner and that's that review

46:38 ↗ and the completion of that is based on

46:41 ↗ the information proposed by the

46:43 ↗ applicants materials that they provide

46:45 ↗ information that the city may already

46:47 ↗ have

46:48 ↗ on a subject property

46:51 ↗ and

46:53 ↗ with many projects taking multiple years

46:55 ↗ to complete there could be quite a gap

46:57 ↗ between that initial preliminary

46:59 ↗ checklist

47:00 ↗ completion and

47:02 ↗ going through the entire review process

47:04 ↗ the entire site visit peer review of

47:07 ↗ streams wetlands and the like before it

47:10 ↗ wraps up

47:11 ↗ which can be many many years

47:16 ↗ i just have a quick question

47:18 ↗ since title 18 is being updated

47:20 ↗ and it's going to change many of the

47:23 ↗ rules for these projects

47:25 ↗ are you going to start creating a box

47:27 ↗ that says are you under the old rules

47:29 ↗ the old title 18 and you now have to

47:32 ↗ apply to the new title 18 i'm just

47:33 ↗ asking the question because the rules

47:35 ↗ are challenging and it adds to the

47:38 ↗ complexity of this discussion quite a

47:40 ↗ bit where there's so much that's going

47:42 ↗ to be happening so there's there's

47:44 ↗ that stephen's going to be much more

47:46 ↗ familiar with and doug's going to be

47:48 ↗ much more familiar with

47:50 ↗ the way we might want to be asking

47:52 ↗ questions in the future we'll be looking

47:54 ↗ at investing in projects that are under

47:56 ↗ the current codes they'll follow those

47:59 ↗ that that checklist that is that is

48:01 ↗ established uh and those that are under

48:04 ↗ the new code when it's in effect we'll

48:06 ↗ follow the

48:07 ↗ new updated data checklist if it changes

48:11 ↗ time

48:12 ↗ so looking for that insight from you

48:14 ↗ tonight

48:15 ↗ in a discussion

48:17 ↗ and

48:18 ↗ i've got about 12 slides really quickly

48:20 ↗ just to kind of give everybody an

48:22 ↗ understanding of where we are with these

48:24 ↗ projects uh the first one is avalon bay

48:28 ↗ which is a redevelopment of a four acre

48:29 ↗ parcel in central isoqua

48:32 ↗ they initially proposed a seven story

48:35 ↗ mixed-use building

48:37 ↗ um i believe the initial proposal had

48:39 ↗ underground parking

48:41 ↗ in a flood plain it's not necessarily

48:43 ↗ the greatest idea they come back and

48:44 ↗ change that a bit uh but it is with

48:46 ↗ on-site parking

48:48 ↗ there are critical areas on-site

48:50 ↗ immediately off-site and we're still

48:52 ↗ working through that that process so

48:53 ↗ they're working towards

48:55 ↗ completion of their their land use

48:57 ↗ permitting and then

48:59 ↗ submitting

49:01 ↗ their plan is to be submitting prior to

49:04 ↗ the new title 18 update to

49:07 ↗ the current code

49:09 ↗ but right at this point we did not have

49:12 ↗ construction permits

49:14 ↗ for this project it is still within the

49:16 ↗ land use

49:18 ↗ review are they considered best of them

49:21 ↗ they will not be considered vested

49:23 ↗ unless they have a

49:24 ↗ building permit

49:25 ↗ that's where you get invested in the

49:27 ↗ city in the building building

49:42 ↗ looks like it's also is it like a flood

49:44 ↗ or is it those are

49:47 ↗ slopes like

49:50 ↗ you know those are wet ones those

49:53 ↗ slopes

49:58 ↗ yes

49:59 ↗ is the footprint of um the new

50:01 ↗ seven-story building going to be larger

50:04 ↗ than the business that is going to be

50:06 ↗ demolished

50:07 ↗ it's larger than the footprint of the

50:09 ↗ current building

50:11 ↗ but that

50:12 ↗ where that can be is still being worked

50:13 ↗ out with

50:16 ↗ like buffers through block pathways

50:20 ↗ all of those

50:21 ↗ those aspects of the situation

50:24 ↗ that have to be incorporated on

50:28 ↗ the regulatory side

50:29 ↗ outside of just critical area review

50:33 ↗ thank you yeah

50:35 ↗ uh the next project uh this one is doug

50:38 ↗ so he can type in if he's got any any

50:41 ↗ insight on it the highla pump station

50:43 ↗ which is a storm water pump station

50:44 ↗ that's

50:45 ↗ proposed as a 24 inch diameter pipeline

50:48 ↗ runs about 3 000 linear feet from

50:51 ↗ the rally property out to lake sammamish

50:54 ↗ it

50:55 ↗ is

50:57 ↗ it's a direct discharge to lake

50:59 ↗ washington through through a wetland uh

51:01 ↗ it's a type one wetland that that's uh

51:04 ↗ it's running out through that's within

51:06 ↗ the shoreline management area so it is

51:08 ↗ subject to the shoreline master program

51:10 ↗ and the state codes

51:12 ↗ which will then require a shoreline

51:14 ↗ variance so

51:16 ↗ the

51:16 ↗ highest bar to meet

51:18 ↗ for that activity to occur

51:20 ↗ um and we are still waiting on

51:23 ↗ construction permits to be

51:26 ↗ submitted for this one so still in

51:29 ↗ land use review

51:31 ↗ at this point

51:33 ↗ and working through that with

51:36 ↗ stormwater and

51:38 ↗ critical area review

51:41 ↗ consultants

51:45 ↗ it says that this one's going to be

51:47 ↗ owned by the city after completion it

51:49 ↗ will be owned by the city it will be

51:51 ↗ taken over by the city so the city

51:53 ↗ is invested in making sure what's built

51:56 ↗ will will operate can be operated by

52:00 ↗ public works

52:02 ↗ but it's my stuff

52:08 ↗ uh the next one is the edwards flat it's

52:10 ↗ a 10 lots a short flat proposing

52:13 ↗ cluster housing so pushing that cluster

52:16 ↗ housing to the to the east which would

52:18 ↗ be the right side of the screen

52:20 ↗ a class two stream coal mine hazard and

52:23 ↗ steep slopes on this site

52:25 ↗ uh relatively encumbered so you can see

52:27 ↗ where they're they're proposing that to

52:29 ↗ be placed at this time only a

52:32 ↗ preliminary

52:33 ↗ plot is in uh they will best once a

52:36 ↗ final plan is approved so they're still

52:40 ↗ you know to wrap up a few more a few

52:43 ↗ more parts

52:44 ↗ but they're considering the

52:46 ↗ existing buffers of the stream

52:50 ↗ containing that as a single family

52:52 ↗ development

52:56 ↗ the squash school district stream bank

52:59 ↗ i took a walk the other day and i found

53:01 ↗ this one a pretty cool little project um

53:04 ↗ with a lot of large woody debris

53:06 ↗ installed

53:07 ↗ uh in central sequoia

53:09 ↗ and so it is the only one that is in

53:11 ↗ construction where it is in process they

53:13 ↗ they met the the work window to be in

53:15 ↗ stream

53:16 ↗ uh the end of last month

53:18 ↗ very very close to the end of that that

53:21 ↗ uh ability

53:22 ↗ um

53:23 ↗ and they'll be wrapping that up

53:25 ↗ with

53:26 ↗ all the agencies

53:28 ↗ and and

53:30 ↗ our inspection group to make sure that

53:32 ↗ it's

53:34 ↗ planted and vegetated

53:36 ↗ after after the logs have been set here

53:40 ↗ we saw some of the woody debris on the

53:41 ↗ way here

53:43 ↗ yes they had someone off the side of the

53:44 ↗ uh

53:46 ↗ i don't know it looked like what do you

53:48 ↗ agree with yeah well it was what do you

53:50 ↗ agree with it's going in here i don't

53:51 ↗ know

53:53 ↗ they found extra

53:54 ↗ they bought extra

53:56 ↗ um

53:58 ↗ and the last one on the list uh the

54:00 ↗ milano apartments this one is still in

54:02 ↗ land use review waiting on construction

54:04 ↗ permits uh seven story under four unit

54:06 ↗ apartments

54:08 ↗ uh class two stream to the

54:11 ↗ east southeast

54:12 ↗ and a category 3 wetland with steve

54:14 ↗ slopes

54:16 ↗ so they're they're again looking to

54:19 ↗ complete their land use review and come

54:21 ↗ in for their construction permits and

54:22 ↗ have complete applications so they can

54:24 ↗ invest under their current regulations

54:27 ↗ and all of these have gone through

54:29 ↗ their neighborhood meetings completed

54:30 ↗ their

54:31 ↗ their preliminary

54:33 ↗ or i keep calling it a preliminary

54:35 ↗ environmental checklist at the beginning

54:37 ↗ of the project

54:40 ↗ so those those are the

54:43 ↗ the examples

54:45 ↗ um or the projects that we've had so

54:48 ↗ what we're seeking

54:49 ↗ is kind of that high level

54:51 ↗ policy review

54:53 ↗ and input on the functionality of the

54:55 ↗ checklist and how it relates to the

54:57 ↗ city's environmental goals what this

54:59 ↗ group is seeking to

55:03 ↗ follow

55:04 ↗ and

55:05 ↗ which which can be a little tricky since

55:06 ↗ title 18 is in flux and it is in process

55:09 ↗ um

55:11 ↗ so

55:12 ↗ like what i think connie had said

55:16 ↗ what are some measurables what are

55:18 ↗ things that

55:19 ↗ the board would want to see

55:21 ↗ as a result and that's kind of when

55:24 ↗ projects are completed

55:26 ↗ and how to how to measure that so just

55:29 ↗ want to open it up

55:33 ↗ uh a discussion

55:37 ↗ well i have a question while

55:39 ↗ maybe others gather their questions um

55:41 ↗ [Music]

55:42 ↗ so and you even use the word preliminary

55:45 ↗ like i would

55:47 ↗ like so they we do this preliminary

55:50 ↗ checklist

55:51 ↗ is that

55:52 ↗ updated throughout the life of a project

55:54 ↗ is the end

55:56 ↗ checklist that would come out of a given

55:58 ↗ project what was it was at the start or

56:01 ↗ what it was at the end like in terms of

56:03 ↗ variances and other details that might

56:07 ↗ that might be included in that in that

56:09 ↗ checklist but yeah i'll i'll start in

56:12 ↗ doug changmin if you want it it is a

56:14 ↗ checklist that staff will utilize to run

56:16 ↗ down through and see

56:18 ↗ what are the features on the site what

56:20 ↗ is the applicant proposing are they

56:21 ↗ proposing

56:22 ↗ um

56:24 ↗ limiting light impacts on on the

56:27 ↗ critical area

56:28 ↗ from what from what we can tell with the

56:30 ↗ plans that are proposed how they address

56:32 ↗ certain certain features on the site

56:35 ↗ um so kind of a

56:37 ↗ little literal review checklist for

56:39 ↗ staff to to follow along and make sure

56:42 ↗ that we're using it as a tool in our

56:45 ↗ initial

56:46 ↗ screening of the of the process

56:49 ↗ and then through

56:50 ↗ peer review with our consulting

56:52 ↗ biologists once we have their full

56:54 ↗ report

56:55 ↗ that

56:56 ↗ gets into the details in the end of the

56:58 ↗ weeks with

57:00 ↗ with the critical area code and

57:03 ↗ determining if it is consistent so

57:06 ↗ it is not updated in the in the future

57:10 ↗ it is a

57:11 ↗ static frozen in time from the initial

57:13 ↗ pre-neighborhood feeding

57:16 ↗ steps

57:18 ↗ doug do you want to add anything

57:23 ↗ dough and mute you

57:26 ↗ thanks stacy

57:28 ↗ um this is doug your associate

57:30 ↗ environmental planner um i don't really

57:33 ↗ have anything that i think i think

57:34 ↗ christian um

57:36 ↗ got up to correct with that

57:42 ↗ okay

57:44 ↗ thank you um

57:45 ↗ oh nancy go ahead and let's go forward

57:48 ↗ oh

57:49 ↗ man go ahead

57:50 ↗ thanks jerry

57:53 ↗ um i guess mine's more of a comet so

57:57 ↗ i love i love the new concept of going

58:00 ↗ tall

58:01 ↗ um when i first moved here in 1984 um

58:07 ↗ it was go wide

58:09 ↗ you weren't allowed to go more than like

58:10 ↗ two stories i think

58:12 ↗ to what it was um so

58:14 ↗ i like the idea of encouraging

58:17 ↗ people to build up

58:19 ↗ um

58:20 ↗ but um as far as

58:22 ↗ the wetlands um

58:25 ↗ i just think we need to remember to take

58:27 ↗ climate change into mind as

58:30 ↗ as these new buildings go in um because

58:33 ↗ there's gonna of course i think we all

58:35 ↗ know there's going to be more flooding

58:37 ↗ happening

58:38 ↗ so the 100-year floods could happen a

58:40 ↗ lot

58:42 ↗ more often even more often than they do

58:44 ↗ now

58:46 ↗ when i first moved here

58:48 ↗ in the air in the 80s there were a ton

58:50 ↗ of hundred year floods happening

58:53 ↗ and um

58:54 ↗ the water was managed

58:57 ↗ and so then

58:59 ↗ you know bombardiers in the antique mall

59:01 ↗ quit flooding for a while

59:03 ↗ but

59:05 ↗ that could change again

59:07 ↗ so just some thoughts

59:12 ↗ sam nancy

59:15 ↗ so christian you weren't here when we've

59:17 ↗ discussed this before so

59:19 ↗ but i'm trying to think back to

59:22 ↗ what our responsibilities are under when

59:25 ↗ the board was set and i i didn't think i

59:27 ↗ don't have a computer in front of me but

59:28 ↗ i think we were trying to come up with a

59:30 ↗ scoreboard of how we're doing

59:32 ↗ environmentally um that we could report

59:34 ↗ annually to like the council of the

59:36 ↗ community

59:37 ↗ how many wetlands were impacted how many

59:40 ↗ trees significant trees were taken down

59:42 ↗ how the steep slopes were being affected

59:45 ↗ um so we kind of see are we doing better

59:48 ↗ as an environmental community or are we

59:50 ↗ doing are we harming it am i making any

59:53 ↗ sense on that

59:54 ↗ and i'm not sensing we're getting there

59:56 ↗ if that

59:58 ↗ um i think we need to think about if

1:00:00 ↗ we're only doing the checklist at the

1:00:02 ↗ initial parts because during the course

1:00:04 ↗ of development the guy's moving the

1:00:06 ↗ developers probably moving the building

1:00:08 ↗ a little bit because they're getting

1:00:09 ↗ feedback about wetland impacts and stuff

1:00:11 ↗ and i think it's important for us to be

1:00:13 ↗ able to

1:00:14 ↗ to communicate to the community how are

1:00:16 ↗ we doing environmentally we received 20

1:00:19 ↗ applications this year five of which

1:00:21 ↗ were commercial developments in those

1:00:23 ↗ commercial developments um we managed to

1:00:26 ↗ meet all the buffer requirements or you

1:00:28 ↗ know some kind of report card about how

1:00:31 ↗ are we doing as a community

1:00:33 ↗ and that to me is what i see this

1:00:36 ↗ checklist helping us to do

1:00:38 ↗ the checklist is a way to accumulate

1:00:40 ↗ these projects on a common basis

1:00:43 ↗ so we can report to the community how

1:00:45 ↗ we're doing

1:00:47 ↗ and i'm not sure we're there yet

1:00:48 ↗ building and

1:00:49 ↗ potentially some metrics right there you

1:00:52 ↗ go

1:00:53 ↗ and

1:00:54 ↗ adaptive management monitoring right

1:00:57 ↗ does that help you a little bit and i

1:00:59 ↗ think that's kind of really what we were

1:01:00 ↗ thinking this was trying to get to and

1:01:03 ↗ we've had those communications with the

1:01:04 ↗ former planning manager of what we're

1:01:07 ↗ trying to get to with it and the initial

1:01:09 ↗ projects we saw there weren't

1:01:11 ↗ enough like we're seeing now of major

1:01:13 ↗ developments coming in

1:01:16 ↗ that are trying to meet some goals so i

1:01:18 ↗ think it's a great opportunity for us to

1:01:19 ↗ build those metrics and perhaps tweak

1:01:22 ↗ the checklist or process

1:01:24 ↗ so that we can report out how are we

1:01:26 ↗ doing

1:01:27 ↗ okay that's great

1:01:30 ↗ thanks nancy tom

1:01:33 ↗ oh yeah my question is kind of it

1:01:35 ↗ overlaps with what nancy was just

1:01:37 ↗ talking about you're seeking feedback on

1:01:40 ↗ this checklist in the process

1:01:42 ↗ and i'm wondering what other feedback

1:01:45 ↗ mechanisms are

1:01:46 ↗ are you looking at to determine the

1:01:49 ↗ goodness of this checklist and

1:01:51 ↗ is it is it just us it probably isn't

1:01:53 ↗ discussed but i'm just wondering what

1:01:55 ↗ what other feedback loops uh there are

1:01:58 ↗ in terms of uh

1:02:00 ↗ like continuous process improvement

1:02:02 ↗ the uh the conventional way to

1:02:06 ↗ get a feedback loop is to

1:02:09 ↗ evaluate

1:02:10 ↗ at the end of a project and use what you

1:02:13 ↗ learned in that evaluation the

1:02:15 ↗ post-project debriefing or

1:02:18 ↗ or analysis and let's let's see uh what

1:02:22 ↗ went uh right what went wrong and use

1:02:24 ↗ that as the feedback

1:02:26 ↗ mechanism to um

1:02:28 ↗ well continuously improve both a pro

1:02:31 ↗ process

1:02:32 ↗ perspective and a project uh perspective

1:02:35 ↗ uh i guess um i feel i feel just

1:02:39 ↗ i don't have enough information to look

1:02:41 ↗ at the checklist

1:02:43 ↗ and look at these examples and determine

1:02:45 ↗ whether it's working well or not because

1:02:48 ↗ i can't see the the outcome yeah too

1:02:50 ↗ early for these projects to know what

1:02:53 ↗ the outcome is

1:02:54 ↗ and is there is there some other step in

1:02:57 ↗ the process that we'll be looking at at

1:03:00 ↗ that in the future if there isn't i'd

1:03:02 ↗ suggest it should be

1:03:03 ↗ um and i'm not sure

1:03:06 ↗ how that best could be done but uh

1:03:08 ↗ i feel like i don't have enough

1:03:10 ↗ information to provide good feedback on

1:03:12 ↗ it

1:03:13 ↗ from where i'm sitting right here thank

1:03:15 ↗ you

1:03:18 ↗ thank you tom

1:03:19 ↗ um rishi

1:03:21 ↗ um yeah so i was wondering one i

1:03:23 ↗ apologize this is like common knowledge

1:03:25 ↗ but i'm wondering for the checklist

1:03:26 ↗ itself like what are the current metrics

1:03:29 ↗ are they what we see in the presentation

1:03:31 ↗ or are they also

1:03:32 ↗ about like the actual like emissions

1:03:34 ↗ related to the development of

1:03:36 ↗ uh these five projects it is

1:03:39 ↗ it

1:03:40 ↗ is a series of questions about uh

1:03:43 ↗ what's on site what are they proposing

1:03:45 ↗ so it doesn't it doesn't necessarily get

1:03:47 ↗ in the details of how number of units

1:03:49 ↗ you know square footage of structure

1:03:51 ↗ uh it's looking at

1:03:53 ↗ is there a wetland on site are there

1:03:55 ↗ steep slopes on site how are they

1:03:56 ↗ accounting for that have they provided

1:03:58 ↗ the report

1:04:00 ↗ there's a few more detailed ones are

1:04:01 ↗ they trying to avoid

1:04:03 ↗ um

1:04:05 ↗ certain certain

1:04:07 ↗ areas of the of the property

1:04:10 ↗ and

1:04:11 ↗ that's where

1:04:12 ↗ there are other questions we want to

1:04:14 ↗ look at initially

1:04:16 ↗ to then go back and say well

1:04:18 ↗ how many square feet of wetland

1:04:20 ↗ were determined on the site initially

1:04:23 ↗ how much was there at the end was any of

1:04:25 ↗ it mitigated um was it a highly

1:04:28 ↗ functioning wetland to be very generic

1:04:29 ↗ very general

1:04:30 ↗ was it a deteriorated wetland that's

1:04:33 ↗ covered in blackberries and green canary

1:04:35 ↗ grass or was it a highly functioning

1:04:36 ↗ well

1:04:38 ↗ the gain is when it's

1:04:40 ↗ a low functioning wetland that

1:04:42 ↗ development occurs

1:04:44 ↗ they observe the wetland buffers and

1:04:46 ↗ they enhance that area so it's a net

1:04:49 ↗ gain

1:04:50 ↗ for that site

1:04:53 ↗ and

1:04:55 ↗ kind of things that that could be

1:04:57 ↗ considered um especially at a high level

1:04:59 ↗ of

1:05:00 ↗ what's the condition of the wetland it

1:05:02 ↗ doesn't

1:05:03 ↗ take much more

1:05:04 ↗ to say well it's highly functioning or

1:05:06 ↗ it's a low functioning and that's a

1:05:08 ↗ checkbox then further into the review

1:05:11 ↗ staff have that information we may have

1:05:13 ↗ it up front as well

1:05:16 ↗ thought to

1:05:18 ↗ grow out okay thank you

1:05:21 ↗ don go ahead

1:05:22 ↗ yeah so nancy pretty much stole the

1:05:24 ↗ words out of my mouth i was trying to

1:05:25 ↗ articulate myself but

1:05:28 ↗ she recalled it quicker than i did but

1:05:30 ↗ yeah that was the original intent was

1:05:32 ↗ that this was supposed to be

1:05:34 ↗ a measurable process

1:05:36 ↗ so i'm going to give you a suggestion

1:05:39 ↗ is this is your preliminary checklist

1:05:41 ↗ how about as your project closes out

1:05:45 ↗ you have a closing checklist and maybe

1:05:47 ↗ it can be one in the

1:05:48 ↗ same something along the lines of have

1:05:51 ↗ you met the goals of the original intent

1:05:54 ↗ and i heard connie make a comment

1:05:56 ↗ earlier that she remembered that this

1:05:58 ↗ was supposed to be a very quick and easy

1:06:00 ↗ to read spreadsheet if you will so we

1:06:03 ↗ can see how we're doing over time so

1:06:05 ↗ consider what that would look like i

1:06:07 ↗ don't have a solution for that

1:06:09 ↗ something you have to think about for a

1:06:10 ↗ while but something you could put up

1:06:13 ↗ on a website where people can simply go

1:06:16 ↗ there and just look over the past few

1:06:18 ↗ years how have we done this

1:06:20 ↗ and potentially looking at these five

1:06:22 ↗ projects the projects before that have

1:06:24 ↗ used the

1:06:26 ↗ the checklist

1:06:27 ↗ that

1:06:28 ↗ might still be wrapping up how the field

1:06:30 ↗ i haven't looked

1:06:31 ↗ but there's the opportunity to as as

1:06:34 ↗ they wrap up

1:06:35 ↗ actually have something to

1:06:37 ↗ to come back with

1:06:39 ↗ and that

1:06:41 ↗ that tracking or that that reporting

1:06:43 ↗ grows where you might not see these five

1:06:46 ↗ projects or a few of these for

1:06:48 ↗ a couple of years once they wrap up but

1:06:50 ↗ when they do

1:06:52 ↗ if we're looking through

1:06:54 ↗ a follow-up checklist we're providing

1:06:57 ↗ something that

1:06:58 ↗ is a report card and you mentioned you

1:07:01 ↗ know just as an example of what you

1:07:02 ↗ mentioned a deteriorating wetland buffer

1:07:05 ↗ um it'd be interesting to know over time

1:07:07 ↗ okay how many acres of the deuterium

1:07:09 ↗ buffer was replaced or renewed

1:07:12 ↗ via these projects

1:07:17 ↗ building on what don's added to it i

1:07:19 ↗ mean i think it's a unique opportunity

1:07:21 ↗ with the kind of projects you just

1:07:22 ↗ presented they do have some significant

1:07:25 ↗ wetland

1:07:26 ↗ opportunities

1:07:27 ↗ or impacts

1:07:29 ↗ and speech slopes things that we're all

1:07:32 ↗ kind of concerned about in this

1:07:33 ↗ community actual stream restoration work

1:07:36 ↗ down there with the school districts

1:07:37 ↗ work so i think we finally got the

1:07:39 ↗ projects that we can start to report to

1:07:41 ↗ the community how we're doing

1:07:43 ↗ environmentally it's just how to do that

1:07:45 ↗ sure that's what they pay you the big

1:07:47 ↗ bucks for

1:07:50 ↗ yeah maybe i'll pop in now i mean

1:07:53 ↗ i do think

1:07:55 ↗ echoing a lot of what was already said i

1:07:57 ↗ think i'll put it slightly differently i

1:07:58 ↗ feel like right now the environmental

1:08:00 ↗ checklist is like demographic data

1:08:03 ↗ we're not actually getting to like the

1:08:05 ↗ outcomes from like we're taking we're

1:08:07 ↗ doing a study of like subjects we're

1:08:10 ↗ getting the demographic data up front on

1:08:11 ↗ the checklist we're not actually getting

1:08:13 ↗ the outcomes which i think for this

1:08:15 ↗ board

1:08:16 ↗ and for the policies and what we're

1:08:17 ↗ going to discuss on an ongoing basis i

1:08:19 ↗ think the outcomes in a lot of cases are

1:08:22 ↗ are just as or more important than what

1:08:24 ↗ the starting points were um so i do

1:08:26 ↗ think

1:08:27 ↗ figuring out a way to

1:08:29 ↗ get okay maybe we do still need

1:08:31 ↗ everything that's in the current

1:08:32 ↗ checklist for the demographic just the

1:08:34 ↗ basics as the starting point in this

1:08:36 ↗ process but at the end of the day i

1:08:38 ↗ think

1:08:38 ↗ um looking at title 18 we've talked

1:08:40 ↗ about a lot of different topics whether

1:08:42 ↗ it's shoreline wetland like we have all

1:08:44 ↗ these policy decisions that we're making

1:08:46 ↗ in title 18 or we will make in title 18

1:08:49 ↗ i think we should probably be measuring

1:08:51 ↗ and looking at that list of what are the

1:08:53 ↗ changes we made at title in title 18 how

1:08:55 ↗ are those changes

1:08:57 ↗ either changing how a project comes to

1:08:58 ↗ life like how is that benefiting or

1:09:01 ↗ detracting from key measures of like

1:09:03 ↗ wetlands or other

1:09:05 ↗ canned tree canopy i think we're going

1:09:06 ↗ to have a lot of things coming out of

1:09:09 ↗ like the

1:09:10 ↗ the tree can't be banks i don't know how

1:09:12 ↗ where that's at that's still in in title

1:09:14 ↗ 18

1:09:15 ↗ um but there's a lot of things in

1:09:17 ↗ wetland banking i'm curious and i think

1:09:21 ↗ what we've shared in the past before you

1:09:22 ↗ were joined is i think we're interested

1:09:24 ↗ in really understanding

1:09:26 ↗ so there's code how are people using

1:09:28 ↗ that at the end of the day and we have a

1:09:30 ↗ really interesting opportunity with

1:09:31 ↗ title 18 that i think we have focused as

1:09:34 ↗ a city on certain areas

1:09:36 ↗ so let's see how those changes are

1:09:39 ↗ actually being implemented in projects

1:09:41 ↗ going forward there's probably other

1:09:42 ↗ things that weren't changes that we

1:09:44 ↗ should still be looking at i think

1:09:45 ↗ that's where i would be interested in

1:09:47 ↗ like yeah going from that next step of

1:09:49 ↗ like demographic to outcomes and and

1:09:51 ↗ like key measurables coming out of a

1:09:54 ↗ process

1:09:55 ↗ or for a project

1:09:57 ↗ but i do think with title 18 we have a

1:09:59 ↗ really

1:10:00 ↗ unique opportunity to start measuring

1:10:02 ↗ how we did with title 18 through these

1:10:05 ↗ checklists as well so

1:10:06 ↗ that i think is going to be something

1:10:08 ↗ that we should

1:10:09 ↗ certainly probably bring back and come

1:10:11 ↗ back and discuss once title 18 is

1:10:13 ↗ finalized

1:10:14 ↗ but i do think that this is a

1:10:16 ↗ unique time that we'll have that

1:10:17 ↗ opportunity

1:10:19 ↗ and i think

1:10:22 ↗ um

1:10:24 ↗ yeah i think that's the majority of

1:10:27 ↗ of my comment but i do think the while

1:10:30 ↗ the checklist is a good starting point i

1:10:32 ↗ think at the end of the day

1:10:34 ↗ where we need to get to is more like

1:10:37 ↗ you couldn't

1:10:38 ↗ use these checklists

1:10:41 ↗ someone would have to read through every

1:10:42 ↗ single one

1:10:43 ↗ and then they still might not get a lot

1:10:45 ↗ of like okay what mattered at the end of

1:10:47 ↗ the day and i do really think that at

1:10:49 ↗ the end of the day like the community is

1:10:50 ↗ toward

1:10:52 ↗ the staff that and city that stacy's

1:10:55 ↗ reporting back to

1:10:56 ↗ i think

1:10:57 ↗ we need to figure out a way to be able

1:10:59 ↗ to share the impacts of the lack of

1:11:00 ↗ impact that we're having and i think

1:11:02 ↗ right now it's really challenging and so

1:11:05 ↗ something that i mentioned in the last

1:11:06 ↗ time we talked about this i really do

1:11:08 ↗ think a way to aggregate across

1:11:10 ↗ a year the impacts

1:11:13 ↗ um and that might be slightly different

1:11:15 ↗ than what the individual project

1:11:16 ↗ checklist does i'm sure a lot of the

1:11:18 ↗ things you might track in the checklist

1:11:19 ↗ or whatever we end up calling it will

1:11:22 ↗ ladder up or be something that you would

1:11:23 ↗ report on that but i do think the end of

1:11:25 ↗ the year report

1:11:26 ↗ i would be really interested to see is

1:11:28 ↗ is is more summary level and and how do

1:11:31 ↗ we

1:11:32 ↗ take from all the projects that not only

1:11:34 ↗ this year but in in the recent history

1:11:36 ↗ and understand

1:11:38 ↗ what the whether we were happy with the

1:11:40 ↗ outcomes or not like if the public was

1:11:42 ↗ to look at this at the end of the like

1:11:44 ↗ our report out at the end of end of a

1:11:46 ↗ given year would they be happy should

1:11:47 ↗ they be happy or should they not be

1:11:48 ↗ happy and i think that right now is is

1:11:51 ↗ hard to do so

1:11:53 ↗ yeah the working progress but

1:11:56 ↗ i think we have a really interesting

1:11:57 ↗ opportunity coming up

1:12:06 ↗ any other questions or feedback

1:12:14 ↗ do you have any other specific questions

1:12:16 ↗ or things that you

1:12:17 ↗ would like feedback on

1:12:21 ↗ um

1:12:24 ↗ i don't think so i think that covers

1:12:26 ↗ what

1:12:28 ↗ what my questions were especially very

1:12:31 ↗ bright-eyed

1:12:34 ↗ unencumbered um

1:12:37 ↗ but uh

1:12:42 ↗ sorry

1:12:46 ↗ but i think it's really interesting

1:12:48 ↗ some of these projects like the

1:12:49 ↗ redevelopment of that side along newport

1:12:51 ↗ you know they're going to take a bunch

1:12:52 ↗ of asphalt parking out which is probably

1:12:55 ↗ and they're going to they you may they

1:12:57 ↗ may end up putting in um

1:12:59 ↗ you know the what stuff that percolates

1:13:01 ↗ what's it called don come on

1:13:03 ↗ permeable concrete or permeable asphalt

1:13:06 ↗ so that it's now cleaning it up and i

1:13:08 ↗ think that's something we can report out

1:13:09 ↗ we removed you know two acres of asphalt

1:13:13 ↗ we removed you know um and replaced it

1:13:17 ↗ with this

1:13:18 ↗ benefiting the streams

1:13:20 ↗ um it had a light generating source from

1:13:23 ↗ open from the windows that affected you

1:13:26 ↗ know nearby areas

1:13:28 ↗ and now they've decreased that light

1:13:29 ↗ they're turning the lights off they're

1:13:31 ↗ they have old lighting fixtures in there

1:13:34 ↗ that were the old incandescent bulbs now

1:13:36 ↗ they have all led bulbs

1:13:38 ↗ and those are the things to me that

1:13:43 ↗ the people in the community would like

1:13:44 ↗ to know about and i think that's kind of

1:13:47 ↗ where i'm hoping we might be thinking

1:13:49 ↗ about going um because i really think it

1:13:52 ↗ could be a really cool report if they're

1:13:54 ↗ doing the right things with the

1:13:55 ↗ buildings

1:13:56 ↗ it could be a win-win for the city and

1:13:58 ↗ the developer you're not thinking what

1:14:00 ↗ nancy is just saying if i'm a developer

1:14:02 ↗ and i get an opportunity to report out

1:14:03 ↗ the end of my project

1:14:05 ↗ the good things that i did to improve my

1:14:08 ↗ area

1:14:09 ↗ i'd be really excited about that put

1:14:11 ↗ solar panels on whatever it is that type

1:14:13 ↗ of thing

1:14:21 ↗ sorry to add all that

1:14:27 ↗ all right

1:14:29 ↗ once we have any other questions i'll

1:14:30 ↗ try to summarize

1:14:32 ↗ that i mean i think the probably

1:14:35 ↗ the biggest theme was the board's

1:14:37 ↗ interest in

1:14:38 ↗ hearing more about outcomes and scoring

1:14:41 ↗ is something that

1:14:42 ↗ would be more easily um applied some

1:14:45 ↗ like measurable metrics of our success

1:14:48 ↗ or lack of success

1:14:51 ↗ in protecting the environment

1:14:53 ↗ a couple other comments focused on

1:14:57 ↗ one the opportunity that we have with

1:14:59 ↗ with title 18 to look at are there some

1:15:01 ↗ policy topics that we should be

1:15:04 ↗ able to report on or evaluating against

1:15:07 ↗ the prior code

1:15:08 ↗ um

1:15:10 ↗ trying to think what else um

1:15:14 ↗ yeah i mean i think it was also

1:15:16 ↗ mentioned several times just how this

1:15:18 ↗ could be used as a resource to the

1:15:19 ↗ community i think right now i mean

1:15:22 ↗ the checklist is used with community but

1:15:24 ↗ how it could provide summary level

1:15:28 ↗ guidance or

1:15:30 ↗ reporting out of progress or lack of

1:15:32 ↗ progress to the community and it's not

1:15:34 ↗ just an environmental board thing it's

1:15:35 ↗ something that could be a tool for the

1:15:37 ↗ broader community to understand

1:15:39 ↗ how

1:15:40 ↗ the city and

1:15:42 ↗ that year um shaped up

1:15:45 ↗ anything

1:15:46 ↗ i missed

1:15:49 ↗ i just clarify um were you interested in

1:15:52 ↗ seeing was the board interested in

1:15:54 ↗ seeing um a summary of the information

1:15:56 ↗ in our end of the year report this year

1:15:59 ↗ or is that something you're looking for

1:16:01 ↗ in the future

1:16:04 ↗ i think that's for everyone yeah

1:16:06 ↗ i think it needs to be in the report

1:16:08 ↗ this year we kind of hunted last year

1:16:10 ↗ because we didn't have much yeah

1:16:12 ↗ and we may not have a lot more

1:16:14 ↗ but

1:16:15 ↗ let's start okay that sounds great i can

1:16:18 ↗ work with christian on that and then we

1:16:19 ↗ talked about possibly coming back to the

1:16:21 ↗ board in the spring to do kind of a

1:16:23 ↗ check-in and that checking could be did

1:16:25 ↗ we

1:16:26 ↗ get it right is it the right level of

1:16:28 ↗ the environmental board report prior to

1:16:31 ↗ our next review

1:16:47 ↗ thank you okay thank you all thank you

1:16:49 ↗ thank you for coming welcome welcome

1:16:52 ↗ all right uh with that we will move on

1:16:56 ↗ to reports

1:16:58 ↗ really stacy you'll probably have the

1:16:59 ↗ first

1:17:01 ↗ most of that bro

1:17:09 ↗ give me one minute why

1:17:11 ↗ just nice

1:17:26 ↗ all right stephen um

1:17:28 ↗ i'm going to go ahead and meet you on my

1:17:30 ↗ end

1:17:31 ↗ um

1:17:33 ↗ with people in the panelists tonight so

1:17:35 ↗ i'll go ahead and meet and meet you in

1:17:36 ↗ case you want to jump in

1:17:40 ↗ great um well tonight we just wanted to

1:17:43 ↗ do kind of a brief update on where title

1:17:46 ↗ 18 is and then also share with the board

1:17:49 ↗ um a crosswalk that's been developed has

1:17:52 ↗ been shared a number of times with

1:17:54 ↗ council ppc

1:17:56 ↗ it's up on our website it's been

1:17:58 ↗ circulating

1:17:59 ↗ a bit

1:18:00 ↗ and

1:18:02 ↗ the purpose of this crosswalk was really

1:18:04 ↗ to pull out the actions within the

1:18:07 ↗ climate action plan that identified

1:18:09 ↗ title 18

1:18:11 ↗ as it means for implementation

1:18:13 ↗ and then to speak to where

1:18:15 ↗ those are being addressed in title 18 or

1:18:18 ↗ are not being addressed and why and what

1:18:20 ↗ the timeline is for those to be

1:18:22 ↗ addressed

1:18:24 ↗ and so it was mostly just a update the

1:18:26 ↗ board on this table and steven are here

1:18:29 ↗ to take any questions um on where things

1:18:32 ↗ are

1:18:33 ↗ and

1:18:34 ↗ um i might see also if stephen wants to

1:18:36 ↗ provide a quick update on where we are

1:18:39 ↗ with title 18 and what the board can

1:18:41 ↗ expect to see in our november meeting

1:18:48 ↗ good evening everyone

1:18:50 ↗ steven padua long range planning manager

1:18:53 ↗ so where we are with the title 18

1:18:55 ↗ project is that we

1:18:57 ↗ are getting past the second phase which

1:18:59 ↗ is the drafting of the code and we're

1:19:02 ↗ moving into the phase where we're

1:19:03 ↗ consolidating the multiple drafts

1:19:06 ↗ as you're familiar with we broke up

1:19:08 ↗ title 18 into six different buckets

1:19:11 ↗ and um so we're we're

1:19:13 ↗ [Music]

1:19:14 ↗ going to be conducting some code testing

1:19:16 ↗ as we're consolidating the draft code

1:19:18 ↗ and then we'll be going into uh

1:19:20 ↗ consolidated draft public hearings with

1:19:22 ↗ the planning policy commission in

1:19:24 ↗ november

1:19:33 ↗ okay

1:19:34 ↗ i hear you okay

1:19:38 ↗ great so this was really we haven't um

1:19:41 ↗ the staff haven't come to you with title

1:19:42 ↗ 18 in several months we worked quite a

1:19:45 ↗ bit on a natural environment sections

1:19:48 ↗ back in the spring so just wanted to do

1:19:50 ↗ a quick check in here provide this table

1:19:53 ↗ and see if there were questions

1:19:56 ↗ any areas of input that the board wants

1:19:59 ↗ to

1:20:00 ↗ further participate in

1:20:02 ↗ recognizing that really our next

1:20:03 ↗ check-in will be that november meeting

1:20:05 ↗ where you'll be receiving uh

1:20:08 ↗ the consolidated draft of title 18 a

1:20:10 ↗ couple weeks in advance for review

1:20:15 ↗ nancy go ahead

1:20:17 ↗ so stephen can you explain to me what uh

1:20:21 ↗ the ppc is doing regarding

1:20:23 ↗ they're doing some kind of numeric

1:20:26 ↗ scoring

1:20:27 ↗ based on

1:20:28 ↗ climate action plan i've read the

1:20:31 ↗ meeting minutes from the last ppc

1:20:32 ↗ meeting

1:20:33 ↗ and it appears that they're doing some

1:20:35 ↗ work along that could you explain what

1:20:36 ↗ they're really doing with that and the

1:20:38 ↗ community values they're putting forward

1:20:41 ↗ are you referring to the ecological

1:20:43 ↗ score

1:20:44 ↗ when it comes to

1:20:46 ↗ sustainability

1:20:49 ↗ um ppc isn't doing anything with that

1:20:52 ↗ right now it was just a discussion if if

1:20:54 ↗ the city should be approaching

1:20:56 ↗ how we are

1:20:58 ↗ um

1:21:00 ↗ how we are implementing sustainability

1:21:03 ↗ through our work

1:21:04 ↗ it was uh the discussion that we had

1:21:06 ↗ with the planning policy commission was

1:21:08 ↗ just to determine if we want to go that

1:21:10 ↗ approach and how we might go that

1:21:12 ↗ approach that

1:21:13 ↗ it is

1:21:14 ↗ i currently identified as a future

1:21:17 ↗ update item following this current

1:21:19 ↗ project update

1:21:21 ↗ and so

1:21:22 ↗ later next year i think we'll be having

1:21:24 ↗ a discussion of

1:21:25 ↗ what that might look like as part of

1:21:27 ↗ code updates or

1:21:29 ↗ expanded implementation of icap

1:21:32 ↗ as we're looking at how to incorporate

1:21:34 ↗ more sustainability in our work

1:21:36 ↗ so

1:21:37 ↗ there will be more discussions on what

1:21:39 ↗ that might be

1:21:41 ↗ but there's currently no work being done

1:21:42 ↗ by planning policy commission on that

1:21:44 ↗ item

1:21:46 ↗ so i know that you surveyed a lot of

1:21:47 ↗ cities about that so you looked at how

1:21:49 ↗ that was being approached by many other

1:21:51 ↗ communities in the county is that

1:21:53 ↗ correct

1:21:55 ↗ we did a pierce city research to see how

1:21:59 ↗ other cities are approaching green

1:22:00 ↗ building design requirements

1:22:02 ↗ and the city of redmond was one where it

1:22:05 ↗ was it established an ecological

1:22:07 ↗ ecological score that provided

1:22:12 ↗ flexibility around the requirements for

1:22:14 ↗ green building design

1:22:16 ↗ and so

1:22:17 ↗ they were basically creating an options

1:22:20 ↗ list of requirements

1:22:21 ↗ for developers to incorporate green

1:22:23 ↗ building design in their developments

1:22:27 ↗ so can you find any other cities that

1:22:29 ↗ approaches it the same way

1:22:31 ↗ so since this isn't coming as part of

1:22:34 ↗ the current work associated with title

1:22:36 ↗ 18 i'd just like to request to the chair

1:22:38 ↗ and the vice chair that perhaps as this

1:22:40 ↗ gets further discussed next year after

1:22:43 ↗ title 18 is adopted that it comes

1:22:45 ↗ forward to this

1:22:46 ↗ board for further discussion

1:22:50 ↗ i think it's important

1:22:54 ↗ part of climate action

1:22:57 ↗ did you mean to put it out right again

1:23:07 ↗ um

1:23:08 ↗ i

1:23:09 ↗ have a question um

1:23:12 ↗ i guess i'm reading just the first

1:23:14 ↗ um

1:23:16 ↗ tl 1.1 incentivized dense mixed use and

1:23:19 ↗ transit oriented development

1:23:21 ↗ and then tl 1.3 adopt codes prioritizing

1:23:25 ↗ missing middle housing

1:23:27 ↗ i guess as i look at the code

1:23:29 ↗ applications towards those two items

1:23:31 ↗ which i think are at least in my opinion

1:23:34 ↗ pretty critical to like issaquah

1:23:35 ↗ continuing to be a sustainable community

1:23:38 ↗ is

1:23:38 ↗ developing in a way that is sustainable

1:23:41 ↗ um

1:23:42 ↗ i i'm not sure that i see a lot of teeth

1:23:45 ↗ or meat on the actions that are put

1:23:47 ↗ against that

1:23:48 ↗ um i mean the missing middle housing

1:23:50 ↗ that seems like and i don't know if this

1:23:52 ↗ is

1:23:53 ↗ the way it's intended but given that

1:23:54 ↗ there's no folded parts of that that

1:23:56 ↗ seems to be the thing that we're saying

1:23:57 ↗ we're not addressing

1:23:59 ↗ in this update

1:24:01 ↗ um so we'll be curious given that this

1:24:03 ↗ seems like a fairly i mean it's one of

1:24:05 ↗ our goals in it i would argue that it

1:24:07 ↗ doesn't really seem like we've

1:24:09 ↗ made really significant like updates i

1:24:12 ↗ mean our one thing related to zoning is

1:24:14 ↗ that we already do it which i think if

1:24:16 ↗ we get goals that

1:24:17 ↗ uh

1:24:18 ↗ i think with the process to

1:24:20 ↗ improve

1:24:21 ↗ saying that we already have it is

1:24:24 ↗ probably not what i think people would

1:24:25 ↗ have expected at the beginning of the

1:24:27 ↗ process so just curious that general

1:24:29 ↗ topic is it

1:24:31 ↗ is it that there wasn't the kind of

1:24:34 ↗ there's been focus on other areas or why

1:24:36 ↗ wasn't as much attention or parts of the

1:24:39 ↗ code update

1:24:41 ↗ applied to

1:24:42 ↗ these portions of kind of the initial

1:24:45 ↗ goals for um for this this update

1:24:49 ↗ and you're speaking to the the first one

1:24:51 ↗ that includes parking and zones and then

1:24:53 ↗ the third item more on the housing

1:24:55 ↗ diversity and affordable housing

1:25:00 ↗ the intention of this project has always

1:25:02 ↗ been to kind of just clean up the code

1:25:03 ↗ to really clarify what the

1:25:06 ↗ regulations are and what we're requiring

1:25:08 ↗ from developments

1:25:10 ↗ going in um

1:25:12 ↗ we looked at to see where we could

1:25:15 ↗ make sure

1:25:17 ↗ a lot of our policies and regulations

1:25:18 ↗ are in line with our city plans

1:25:21 ↗ some policies were able to change to

1:25:24 ↗ better align with what our city plans

1:25:26 ↗ are

1:25:27 ↗ actually call out as action items but

1:25:30 ↗ there's other policies that have been

1:25:32 ↗ identified for the future updates list

1:25:33 ↗ where our city plans aren't exactly

1:25:35 ↗ explicit about in terms of saying we

1:25:37 ↗ need to require this which is why we

1:25:39 ↗ need to have further community

1:25:41 ↗ conversations beyond it which is why

1:25:43 ↗ they're identified

1:25:45 ↗ on this list but also as a future

1:25:47 ↗ updates item following this project

1:25:49 ↗ update

1:25:54 ↗ okay um

1:25:59 ↗ is there specific actions that you're

1:26:01 ↗ looking for in in those two areas

1:26:05 ↗ well yeah i guess

1:26:06 ↗ no i don't know enough to know what the

1:26:08 ↗ actions we should be taking are it just

1:26:10 ↗ seems like there isn't a lot there so if

1:26:13 ↗ that

1:26:14 ↗ if that

1:26:15 ↗ is and i don't know what i i can't

1:26:17 ↗ remember the goals of title 18 in the

1:26:18 ↗ beginning

1:26:19 ↗ um i don't know if that aligns with our

1:26:22 ↗ cat focus areas

1:26:24 ↗ um

1:26:25 ↗ but it just seems like that part of

1:26:28 ↗ code hasn't really seen a lot of

1:26:31 ↗ um

1:26:32 ↗ progress and if that's if this is our

1:26:34 ↗ opportunity to do it i'm just not sure

1:26:36 ↗ like one the next time we update this

1:26:39 ↗ like

1:26:40 ↗ our climate action plan will be

1:26:42 ↗ uh an old document at that point so i'm

1:26:44 ↗ just curious

1:26:45 ↗ um

1:26:46 ↗ [Music]

1:26:47 ↗ it feels like a bit of a missed

1:26:48 ↗ opportunity so um that i think i just

1:26:51 ↗ wanted to

1:26:52 ↗ flag that i was concerned that we we

1:26:54 ↗ don't really seem to be addressing those

1:26:56 ↗ items

1:26:58 ↗ um

1:26:58 ↗ with enough substance to be to be

1:27:00 ↗ immediately changing those those those

1:27:03 ↗ two items

1:27:05 ↗ i think that's fair uh but i think i

1:27:07 ↗ should clarify this isn't the last time

1:27:09 ↗ we'll be touching

1:27:11 ↗ our city code

1:27:12 ↗ one thing that we've made clear with the

1:27:14 ↗ city council is we we plan on conducting

1:27:16 ↗ an annual review of our code

1:27:19 ↗ because we're doing such a large

1:27:20 ↗ overhaul we need to make sure everything

1:27:23 ↗ is operating as we intended it to

1:27:27 ↗ even when you're doing small sections of

1:27:29 ↗ code it never comes out perfect so a

1:27:31 ↗ full overhaul like this we're expecting

1:27:33 ↗ to have to make changes over time and so

1:27:36 ↗ we plan to revisit these sections on

1:27:38 ↗ housing and parking and zones

1:27:41 ↗ and and green building design as we

1:27:44 ↗ continue these conversations of how best

1:27:46 ↗ to approach

1:27:48 ↗ achieving the city goals

1:27:50 ↗ especially when it comes to implementing

1:27:51 ↗ our other city plans

1:27:55 ↗ thank you yeah no i i understand there's

1:27:57 ↗ a lot of things to focus on on such a

1:27:59 ↗ major update um i guess the only last

1:28:02 ↗ thing i would say is

1:28:04 ↗ i understand we'll probably be making

1:28:05 ↗ tweaks on an annual review i don't know

1:28:08 ↗ how likely

1:28:09 ↗ big

1:28:10 ↗ breaking changes will be and that seems

1:28:13 ↗ like what would be necessary to

1:28:14 ↗ immediately move those items so i do

1:28:16 ↗ think that's a question i have and

1:28:18 ↗ the question i'm

1:28:20 ↗ maybe shouldn't be asking as we're

1:28:22 ↗ moving towards approving title 18 is one

1:28:24 ↗ is the update of next title next update

1:28:26 ↗ of title 18 coming because that just

1:28:28 ↗ feels like they're maybe we're gonna

1:28:31 ↗ knock off some of our priorities now

1:28:33 ↗ um but given the scope it just seems

1:28:36 ↗ like they're not just details that we

1:28:37 ↗ might miss there are really large areas

1:28:40 ↗ that we may not have had the bandwidth

1:28:43 ↗ to which is understandable given the

1:28:45 ↗ scope but we may not have had

1:28:48 ↗ the opportunity to address with as much

1:28:50 ↗ attention as they might

1:28:52 ↗ it might need or

1:28:55 ↗ yeah my name so

1:28:57 ↗ yeah no i i know that you

1:28:59 ↗ you and your team are have a ton on your

1:29:01 ↗ plate and this is a major update so i

1:29:03 ↗ think that that was just my my concern

1:29:06 ↗ coming out of that as a result

1:29:08 ↗ yeah no i understand

1:29:13 ↗ any other

1:29:14 ↗ questions or feedback

1:29:22 ↗ um actually i do have one more question

1:29:24 ↗ of

1:29:25 ↗ all right back to you nancy uh

1:29:27 ↗ in the last

1:29:29 ↗ um

1:29:29 ↗ meeting that we had related to tree

1:29:31 ↗ canopy

1:29:32 ↗ there was discussion around neighborhood

1:29:34 ↗ limits

1:29:36 ↗ or not limits but requirements

1:29:38 ↗ for tree canopy

1:29:40 ↗ i don't see that mentioned here is that

1:29:43 ↗ because it's

1:29:45 ↗ either wasn't

1:29:47 ↗ it's no longer the case or

1:29:49 ↗ is it just not included in the list on

1:29:52 ↗ like

1:29:53 ↗ 1.3 or the natural systems

1:29:55 ↗ 1.3 just curious if

1:29:58 ↗ that

1:29:59 ↗ was either missed from this list or if

1:30:01 ↗ that's no longer

1:30:04 ↗ kind of included in the current plans

1:30:08 ↗ it's it's uh

1:30:09 ↗ missed from the list

1:30:11 ↗ um

1:30:12 ↗ we're actually

1:30:13 ↗ conducting that analysis right now so

1:30:15 ↗ we're incorporating some of that in into

1:30:17 ↗ the next draft

1:30:19 ↗ yeah because i think there's tree bank

1:30:20 ↗ as well or that's probably not the term

1:30:22 ↗ that maybe it's a different term but

1:30:24 ↗ okay

1:30:25 ↗ sounds like that was it's not that

1:30:26 ↗ anything is meaningfully changed from

1:30:28 ↗ that tree canopy discussion it's just

1:30:29 ↗ that it wasn't included in this

1:30:32 ↗ crosswalk nancy go ahead so this is just

1:30:35 ↗ a general question for you steven um can

1:30:38 ↗ you lay out what kind of

1:30:40 ↗ we haven't heard much on title 18 where

1:30:41 ↗ are you at

1:30:43 ↗ and kind of when's it going to council

1:30:45 ↗ become what's your how's your schedule

1:30:46 ↗ now can you just give us the big picture

1:30:48 ↗ of where you're going and when you think

1:30:50 ↗ this

1:30:50 ↗ will be the heavy council discussion

1:30:53 ↗ that we're anticipating

1:30:56 ↗ sure so

1:30:57 ↗ um

1:30:58 ↗ for the next couple of months planning

1:31:00 ↗ policy commission will be having

1:31:01 ↗ discussions of comprehensive plan

1:31:03 ↗ amendments

1:31:04 ↗ and then starting in november the first

1:31:06 ↗ meeting or the two meetings in november

1:31:08 ↗ will be the public hearings on the

1:31:10 ↗ consolidated draft where we'll

1:31:12 ↗ result in a recommendation going to

1:31:13 ↗ council and then we'll meet with the

1:31:14 ↗ planning development and environment

1:31:17 ↗ council committee in december and

1:31:19 ↗ potentially again

1:31:20 ↗ either in december and early january and

1:31:23 ↗ then that says that'll kind of initiate

1:31:25 ↗ that legislative process for title 18

1:31:27 ↗ adoption that that can take one to three

1:31:30 ↗ months depending on

1:31:32 ↗ how the discussions go with ppc and with

1:31:34 ↗ the council committee in december

1:31:38 ↗ and just another question will this code

1:31:41 ↗ amendment it will be adopted by

1:31:43 ↗ ordinance is that kind of how it's going

1:31:44 ↗ to have to go forward

1:31:47 ↗ yes it'll it'll

1:31:49 ↗ likely be adopted by multiple ordinances

1:31:52 ↗ but yes

1:31:55 ↗ and the goal is to have that work

1:31:57 ↗ completed by spring of next year so i

1:32:00 ↗ can't i'm just because that's kind of a

1:32:01 ↗ window

1:32:03 ↗ yeah i that would i would say that's the

1:32:05 ↗ goal because um part of the incentive

1:32:07 ↗ for next year is to be initiating our uh

1:32:10 ↗ comprehensive plan update uh which will

1:32:13 ↗ be a pretty significant effort so

1:32:16 ↗ the title 18 updates will be rolling

1:32:17 ↗ into that comprehensive plan update and

1:32:19 ↗ discussions

1:32:21 ↗ thank you i just wanted to understand

1:32:23 ↗ the big picture how this was coming down

1:32:25 ↗ the pipe thank you sure

1:32:28 ↗ thank you for the question

1:32:32 ↗ all right well that looks like

1:32:35 ↗ all the comments and questions

1:32:38 ↗ i think to summarize

1:32:40 ↗ uh

1:32:41 ↗ there's definitely interest in

1:32:43 ↗ understanding

1:32:45 ↗ if an ecology score or something of that

1:32:47 ↗ effect is

1:32:49 ↗ um incorporated um

1:32:52 ↗ the interest in learning more about that

1:32:53 ↗ and potentially discussing that at a

1:32:55 ↗ future meeting

1:32:57 ↗ um there are also concerns around how

1:33:00 ↗ some of the the current icap goals don't

1:33:02 ↗ seem to be meaningfully addressed

1:33:04 ↗ by this update and then how

1:33:07 ↗ will

1:33:08 ↗ things that require seeing

1:33:10 ↗ quite large updates be addressed um

1:33:14 ↗ for any future

1:33:16 ↗ changes to title 18 code

1:33:18 ↗ and then there's general interest in

1:33:20 ↗ making sure we understood um

1:33:22 ↗ kind of where this stands in the process

1:33:24 ↗ leading up to our next meeting that we

1:33:26 ↗ have

1:33:27 ↗ for this

1:33:28 ↗ in november

1:33:30 ↗ any other items

1:33:33 ↗ i

1:33:35 ↗ good job missed

1:33:36 ↗ thank you stephen

1:33:38 ↗ thanks steven thank you thank you thanks

1:33:41 ↗ for having me everyone

1:33:43 ↗ [Music]

1:33:44 ↗ all right

1:33:46 ↗ stacey are there any more um reports

1:33:51 ↗ um

1:33:52 ↗ i have was just going to walk through

1:33:54 ↗ the board schedule and then a brief uh

1:33:56 ↗ icap update

1:33:59 ↗ well

1:34:00 ↗ right now take it away all right

1:34:02 ↗ great um

1:34:04 ↗ one thing to just know i'll resend that

1:34:07 ↗ uh title 18 schedule and also kind of

1:34:10 ↗ the heads up to make sure you're saving

1:34:12 ↗ some time before i know that they're

1:34:14 ↗ needing to do a review so on the trip to

1:34:16 ↗ get that back out to the board

1:34:19 ↗ um so just a few quick updates on the

1:34:22 ↗ board schedule um we made a few

1:34:27 ↗ adjustments to accommodate the addition

1:34:28 ↗ of a parks

1:34:30 ↗ meeting with us back

1:34:32 ↗ sorry in december uh so they'll be

1:34:34 ↗ providing us uh overview of the update

1:34:36 ↗ to the park strategic plan that'll be

1:34:38 ↗ coming in 2023

1:34:40 ↗ um

1:34:41 ↗ so that

1:34:42 ↗ involves a little bit of shifting a few

1:34:43 ↗ items around

1:34:45 ↗ and just want to highlight what is

1:34:47 ↗ coming forward next meeting

1:34:49 ↗ we'll be looking at a

1:34:52 ↗ final draft for for your input on the

1:34:54 ↗ icap dashboard

1:34:56 ↗ as a

1:34:58 ↗ update to the conversation we had i

1:35:00 ↗ think back in june

1:35:01 ↗ we'll have the wastewater master plan

1:35:03 ↗ coming forward

1:35:05 ↗ and then i believe um we'll also be

1:35:07 ↗ having a conversation on the cip

1:35:11 ↗ both the overview but then some

1:35:13 ↗ discussions on

1:35:15 ↗ environmental scoring of that need to

1:35:18 ↗ confirm that that conversation will be

1:35:19 ↗ ready to come to us in october

1:35:23 ↗ one adjustment i did make here is we

1:35:25 ↗ were

1:35:27 ↗ looking to move forward a municipal

1:35:28 ↗ building pathway

1:35:31 ↗ for decarbonization this would be just a

1:35:34 ↗ commitment to at least do a review of

1:35:37 ↗ all the city's buildings and identify

1:35:39 ↗ the plan for decarbonization um we've

1:35:42 ↗ lost our facilities manager um and then

1:35:46 ↗ i'm also working to bring on a staff

1:35:48 ↗ person that'll work a little bit more on

1:35:50 ↗ the municipal operations side so i think

1:35:52 ↗ i'm going to postpone that until 2023

1:35:55 ↗ early 2023 because we're not quite ready

1:35:57 ↗ for it and i want to make sure we have

1:35:58 ↗ our new facilities manager on board

1:36:02 ↗ and working closely with us on that

1:36:06 ↗ those are the major updates to

1:36:09 ↗ the calendar for the rest of the year

1:36:13 ↗ any questions on that yeah i did a well

1:36:15 ↗ more of a comment um i actually think

1:36:18 ↗ that this crosswalk was was quite

1:36:20 ↗ helpful

1:36:22 ↗ and i'm curious like especially looking

1:36:24 ↗ at like parks but also if we look at

1:36:27 ↗ what at the point that we're talking

1:36:28 ↗ about transportation or some of the

1:36:30 ↗ other updates

1:36:32 ↗ i do think it would be helpful to

1:36:34 ↗ to do something like request something

1:36:37 ↗ similar as part of that process and i

1:36:39 ↗ don't know how much they'll be that's

1:36:40 ↗ relevant to parks

1:36:42 ↗ from the ipad but

1:36:45 ↗ yeah that exercise i think would be

1:36:47 ↗ helpful to identify some of the gaps

1:36:48 ↗ that we

1:36:49 ↗ like we saw in this highlight team

1:36:51 ↗ version

1:36:53 ↗ so that's something we can talk more

1:36:55 ↗ about maybe in our check-in text but

1:36:59 ↗ that does seem like an area that

1:37:01 ↗ it could be helpful

1:37:03 ↗ to make sure that the sid not only us

1:37:04 ↗ that we can do that that crosswalk but

1:37:07 ↗ also that

1:37:08 ↗ ensure that

1:37:09 ↗ that has been communicated those goals

1:37:11 ↗ have been communicated to the teams that

1:37:13 ↗ are being factored in on

1:37:16 ↗ different plans that are coming up

1:37:21 ↗ and go ahead

1:37:23 ↗ um my question is off

1:37:26 ↗ subject but it's been something that

1:37:28 ↗ i've been thinking about

1:37:29 ↗ um

1:37:32 ↗ are we do we have any metrics on the

1:37:34 ↗ planet action challenge um in regards to

1:37:36 ↗ the icap

1:37:39 ↗ yes we are um yeah we'll be reporting

1:37:43 ↗ some of that in the dashboard um the

1:37:45 ↗ climate action challenge is tracking the

1:37:48 ↗ actions committed to and actions

1:37:50 ↗ completed by participants and

1:37:53 ↗ the amount of carbon reduced okay so

1:37:56 ↗ that's the kind of information

1:37:58 ↗ i think there are more metrics we can

1:37:59 ↗ pull from it i'll have to talk to them

1:38:02 ↗ that's great

1:38:04 ↗ that's what i was telling people and

1:38:05 ↗ then i realized i wasn't sure but yeah

1:38:08 ↗ yeah i can pull it up in a minute and

1:38:10 ↗ show okay

1:38:12 ↗ any other questions or feedback on the

1:38:15 ↗ remainder of the schedule before i

1:38:17 ↗ launch into icap thanks

1:38:22 ↗ great

1:38:27 ↗ great um well i'll have a much more

1:38:29 ↗ in-depth um written icap

1:38:32 ↗ update for you all in october there's

1:38:34 ↗ one that will be going to the council

1:38:37 ↗ in mid-october i believe october so i'll

1:38:39 ↗ make sure to send that to the board um

1:38:42 ↗ um so that you have that written update

1:38:44 ↗ um but did want to just walk through a

1:38:46 ↗ few highlights of things that have been

1:38:48 ↗ going on over the last month or so

1:38:50 ↗ um we are starting to work with gibson

1:38:53 ↗ eck um there are a couple staff there

1:38:55 ↗ that have reached out that have been

1:38:57 ↗ really interested both in internship

1:38:58 ↗ opportunities around the icap but then

1:39:00 ↗ there is also in process a design lab

1:39:04 ↗ which is a six-week course with students

1:39:07 ↗ where they are looking at the climate

1:39:08 ↗ action challenge and trying to figure

1:39:10 ↗ out ways to motivate people

1:39:12 ↗ to get involved in that but also to

1:39:14 ↗ inspire behavior change

1:39:16 ↗ so they're going to be working on a

1:39:18 ↗ number of different

1:39:20 ↗ products that might help or videos or

1:39:23 ↗ testimonials

1:39:25 ↗ coming out of that so i think a fun

1:39:27 ↗ project to start engaging uh youth and

1:39:29 ↗ implementation and get some creative

1:39:31 ↗ ideas flowing we're hoping to continue

1:39:33 ↗ the partnership with gibson neck and

1:39:35 ↗ help them dig deeper on other icap

1:39:38 ↗ projects in the future yes sorry to

1:39:41 ↗ confirm that climate action challenge is

1:39:42 ↗ that synonymous with the east side of

1:39:44 ↗ climate change yes okay yes

1:39:46 ↗ yeah

1:39:48 ↗ um i think climate action challenge is

1:39:50 ↗ the national name for it but yes thank

1:39:52 ↗ you

1:39:53 ↗ um climate vulnerability assessment um

1:39:56 ↗ we held our first community

1:39:59 ↗ workshop virtual workshop

1:40:01 ↗ just a week ago i believe

1:40:04 ↗ and participated

1:40:06 ↗ it was just an hour-long

1:40:08 ↗ workshop mostly to introduce folks to

1:40:11 ↗ the

1:40:12 ↗ project that we're working on but we did

1:40:15 ↗ use this opportunity to do some

1:40:16 ↗ engagement and get some input on

1:40:18 ↗ different aspects of the vulnerability

1:40:19 ↗ assessment

1:40:21 ↗ we had planned to do a more in-depth

1:40:23 ↗ couple hour workshop with the community

1:40:25 ↗ last night in person uh we did not get

1:40:28 ↗ very many people to register for that so

1:40:30 ↗ we ended up canceling it and we're going

1:40:32 ↗ to pivot to

1:40:34 ↗ either doing more virtual workshops or

1:40:36 ↗ possibly an in-person workshop this

1:40:38 ↗ winter that will focus around proposed

1:40:40 ↗ actions and

1:40:41 ↗ possibly communication tools

1:40:44 ↗ um there are going to be other ways for

1:40:46 ↗ the community to engage this fall we'll

1:40:48 ↗ be launching an online open house so

1:40:51 ↗ folks can get update on the project

1:40:53 ↗ whenever they want they'll be a mapping

1:40:55 ↗ tool they can go in and

1:40:57 ↗ identify areas of

1:40:59 ↗ concern around the community

1:41:01 ↗ and then we'll also be launching a

1:41:03 ↗ community survey

1:41:05 ↗ i'll share both of those with the board

1:41:06 ↗ once they're ready

1:41:09 ↗ um

1:41:10 ↗ a heat pump campaign um we had our

1:41:13 ↗ fourth workshop this afternoon we got

1:41:16 ↗ about 90 participants that's been about

1:41:19 ↗ the standard for each of the workshops

1:41:22 ↗ and we have over

1:41:23 ↗ half to 75 percent of the participants

1:41:26 ↗ at the end of each meeting

1:41:28 ↗ stating that they'd like to be connected

1:41:30 ↗ with an installer and move forward

1:41:32 ↗ we don't have any metrics yet on how

1:41:34 ↗ they

1:41:35 ↗ have moved forward signing a contract

1:41:38 ↗ for installation but we will be getting

1:41:39 ↗ those reports soon

1:41:42 ↗ we have one more workshop

1:41:44 ↗ scheduled for later this month but we

1:41:46 ↗ are planning to launch another series of

1:41:47 ↗ workshops this fall

1:41:49 ↗ i'm getting a lot of questions on the

1:41:51 ↗ inflation reduction act which has heat

1:41:54 ↗ pump rebates um we're trying to learn as

1:41:56 ↗ much as we can along with everyone else

1:41:59 ↗ about timing and process for that and

1:42:01 ↗ we're providing information in the

1:42:02 ↗ workshops as we learn more

1:42:05 ↗ but anticipate that will really grow

1:42:08 ↗ awareness and interest of our

1:42:10 ↗ communities for the heat pump transition

1:42:14 ↗ we also have some preliminary good news

1:42:16 ↗ on a grant to help further expand that

1:42:18 ↗ program and provide additional

1:42:21 ↗ incentives for low moderate income as

1:42:24 ↗ well as for market rate programs so

1:42:26 ↗ provide more information on that

1:42:28 ↗ when it's official

1:42:31 ↗ clean buildings initiative we're working

1:42:33 ↗ to get under contract with mcdonald

1:42:35 ↗ miller to launch that program

1:42:38 ↗ this one's focused on the

1:42:41 ↗ on building building energy efficiency

1:42:45 ↗ in part to work with buildings that have

1:42:47 ↗ to

1:42:48 ↗ comply with the state standard

1:42:51 ↗ but we'll be opening up the opportunity

1:42:53 ↗ for any building that wants to advance

1:42:55 ↗ their energy efficiency

1:42:57 ↗ and still planning to do initial

1:42:59 ↗ marketing

1:43:00 ↗ paul

1:43:03 ↗ community climate challenge or eastside

1:43:05 ↗ climate challenge

1:43:07 ↗ we've been able to get some students

1:43:09 ↗ engaged i don't know appreciate your

1:43:10 ↗ partner there's a group of

1:43:11 ↗ sustainability ambassadors that have

1:43:14 ↗ kind of taken that on which is exciting

1:43:16 ↗ connected with that right yeah it's

1:43:18 ↗ starting to build more awareness and

1:43:20 ↗ attention we've been out at tabling at a

1:43:22 ↗ number of events that's been a really

1:43:24 ↗ fun one to table at and getting a lot of

1:43:27 ↗ community engagement

1:43:29 ↗ we've seen the numbers almost doubled or

1:43:32 ↗ we added 30 or 40 people just over the

1:43:35 ↗ last

1:43:36 ↗ week or two

1:43:37 ↗ as we've kind of picked up tabling um

1:43:39 ↗ we'll be at the

1:43:41 ↗ salmon on sunset event saturday tabling

1:43:44 ↗ um and talking a lot about climate

1:43:47 ↗ action connection to salmon and then

1:43:49 ↗ we'll be insanities as well so stop by

1:43:53 ↗ those foods if you're out nope

1:43:55 ↗ um

1:43:56 ↗ let's see

1:43:58 ↗ uh

1:43:59 ↗ just the last thing i'll mention is eb

1:44:02 ↗ charging

1:44:03 ↗ we're still working to get under

1:44:05 ↗ contract to put in both

1:44:07 ↗ replacement chargers for some that are

1:44:10 ↗ no longer working around the city and

1:44:12 ↗ then also put in some new charging

1:44:14 ↗ stations and these would be cities

1:44:15 ↗ monitored ones

1:44:17 ↗ um

1:44:18 ↗ so just taking a bit of a process to get

1:44:21 ↗ all those logistics worked out but we

1:44:23 ↗ plan to get those in this winner

1:44:25 ↗ and then also continue to identify new

1:44:27 ↗ locations free charging

1:44:30 ↗ um i'll be participating in a focus

1:44:32 ↗ group that pse is putting on where

1:44:34 ↗ they're going to be exploring

1:44:35 ↗ opportunities for more innovative

1:44:37 ↗ charging that could be more accessible

1:44:40 ↗ to

1:44:40 ↗ folks that live in multi-family

1:44:43 ↗ or don't have access to a charger at

1:44:45 ↗ home

1:44:46 ↗ they're looking um from what i

1:44:48 ↗ understand they're looking to model a

1:44:49 ↗ program after what seattle city light

1:44:51 ↗ has launched where they're putting

1:44:53 ↗ chargers in the street lights and

1:44:55 ↗ uh just making utility poles making it

1:44:58 ↗ more accessible

1:44:59 ↗ um along the road so we'll share more as

1:45:02 ↗ we learn about that program

1:45:05 ↗ um and then somewhat related to that we

1:45:07 ↗ were brainstorming some ideas for a city

1:45:10 ↗ sponsored event in the spring around

1:45:13 ↗ earth month

1:45:14 ↗ this year we really deferred to all the

1:45:17 ↗ partners that were doing earth day or

1:45:19 ↗ earth month events but thinking we might

1:45:21 ↗ try and do something

1:45:23 ↗ on our own next year maybe around

1:45:26 ↗ electric vehicles

1:45:28 ↗ but uh really open to any ideas if

1:45:31 ↗ anyone has um event ideas or something

1:45:34 ↗ that we could uh do with the community

1:45:36 ↗ around the icap or

1:45:38 ↗ other tv charts or electric vehicles or

1:45:42 ↗ charging or um

1:45:44 ↗ something around the icap that we could

1:45:46 ↗ really focus on and excite the community

1:45:48 ↗ and motivate them

1:45:49 ↗ yeah yes i'm not exactly sure how the

1:45:51 ↗ jurisdiction with like city of visible

1:45:53 ↗ and this was school district really

1:45:55 ↗ works but i think it could be pretty

1:45:57 ↗ cool because i know a number of teachers

1:45:59 ↗ at skyline i know that's smash but i'm

1:46:01 ↗ sure other schools as well there's a

1:46:02 ↗ number of teachers and plenty of

1:46:04 ↗ students who have electric vehicles

1:46:07 ↗ so as a potential location for electric

1:46:09 ↗ vehicle charging stations

1:46:11 ↗ uh and then also tying that together

1:46:13 ↗ with like a workshop an educational hard

1:46:15 ↗ shop so we can link both of them

1:46:17 ↗ together and

1:46:18 ↗ kind of like do one

1:46:23 ↗ yeah it's just let me know if you're

1:46:25 ↗ interested in brainstorming ideas if you

1:46:27 ↗ like putting together events or

1:46:29 ↗ just looking for any ideas on what we

1:46:31 ↗ might think about doing and next year

1:46:34 ↗ okay so these events will be next year

1:46:36 ↗ yeah i think probably a spring one we

1:46:38 ↗ were thinking of something this fall and

1:46:39 ↗ then um sailing on sunset came up and so

1:46:43 ↗ i don't want to overwhelm the community

1:46:45 ↗ but i think it might be nice to do um

1:46:48 ↗ city sponsored event next year yeah i'd

1:46:51 ↗ be happy to join them

1:46:55 ↗ any questions on icap implementation

1:47:05 ↗ seems like it's coming along really well

1:47:07 ↗ um

1:47:08 ↗ yes i think

1:47:10 ↗ um

1:47:11 ↗ it's been a lot of focus on external

1:47:14 ↗ work this year and the community

1:47:16 ↗ campaigns i think next year with

1:47:19 ↗ additional staff new facilities manager

1:47:22 ↗ on board i think there's a great

1:47:24 ↗ opportunity to really focus on the

1:47:25 ↗ internal municipal operations and that's

1:47:29 ↗ when i think having some more

1:47:30 ↗ discussions around policies and

1:47:34 ↗ what the city is going to require of

1:47:36 ↗ itself i think we'll start having those

1:47:37 ↗ more with the board so i'm excited to

1:47:40 ↗ move into that piece

1:47:42 ↗ and stacy is that october

1:47:44 ↗ kind of bigger update or share out is

1:47:46 ↗ that when

1:47:47 ↗ you expect that details on like what the

1:47:50 ↗ priorities for 23 will be

1:47:53 ↗ like the or the actions or strategies

1:47:55 ↗ that will be most focused on

1:47:57 ↗ that is a good question i wasn't

1:47:59 ↗ planning on that um as part of that

1:48:02 ↗ report to council i could definitely

1:48:03 ↗ include that um i think that is a

1:48:06 ↗ conversation i wanted to have with the

1:48:07 ↗ board i can't remember if it was i think

1:48:10 ↗ november

1:48:12 ↗ um

1:48:14 ↗ november or december i was planning to

1:48:16 ↗ have that conversation with the board as

1:48:18 ↗ we looked at both our schedule as well

1:48:20 ↗ as what i've outlined as the prairies

1:48:22 ↗ for 2023

1:48:25 ↗ um

1:48:26 ↗ but i'll talk to

1:48:27 ↗ our city administrator and see if that's

1:48:28 ↗ something we should include at least a

1:48:30 ↗ premium list

1:48:41 ↗ yeah i would be interested in

1:48:44 ↗ that processor when when there's

1:48:46 ↗ something to share out there yeah i just

1:48:49 ↗ i played that kind of for december and

1:48:51 ↗ then maybe a revisit in january but um

1:48:55 ↗ earlier

1:48:58 ↗ this is kind of on a different subject

1:49:00 ↗ so

1:49:01 ↗ there's more discussion around this but

1:49:02 ↗ if

1:49:03 ↗ so we're going to see the city cip

1:49:06 ↗ potentially in october

1:49:09 ↗ and is each department presenting that

1:49:11 ↗ in terms of help

1:49:13 ↗ and the reason i'm asking this and i'll

1:49:15 ↗ go to the end before you answer that

1:49:17 ↗ question is

1:49:19 ↗ it seems to me we've talked to many

1:49:21 ↗ departments and suggested it's time for

1:49:23 ↗ them to do something in their capital

1:49:25 ↗ program to change the energy used or to

1:49:28 ↗ think about their carbon footprint we

1:49:30 ↗ suggested to parks moving away from gas

1:49:32 ↗ leaf blowers gas you know on and on and

1:49:35 ↗ on

1:49:36 ↗ so

1:49:37 ↗ it will be interesting to see what the

1:49:38 ↗ capital program looks like and if any of

1:49:41 ↗ those

1:49:42 ↗ if any of that's kind of being

1:49:43 ↗ considered

1:49:44 ↗ so that's why i'm asking if the

1:49:46 ↗ departments are presenting it because

1:49:48 ↗ personally i will have some questions if

1:49:50 ↗ we're not starting to see that in

1:49:53 ↗ a five-year capital program that or six

1:49:56 ↗ years however long the city is doing it

1:49:58 ↗ if we're not seeing money going towards

1:50:00 ↗ implementation of icap and reducing our

1:50:02 ↗ carbon emissions we're not going to meet

1:50:04 ↗ our deadlines and so

1:50:06 ↗ i'm hoping that you're signaling to

1:50:08 ↗ whoever's presenting this

1:50:10 ↗ that they should be prepared for these

1:50:12 ↗ questions because

1:50:14 ↗ what we have a big deadline in 2030 and

1:50:18 ↗ if this is a six year cip it'll be the

1:50:20 ↗ end of 2028 and if we're not doing

1:50:23 ↗ anything in that time frame

1:50:25 ↗ if it's not in there as a major piece of

1:50:27 ↗ each department's capital program then

1:50:29 ↗ we're not going to meet our goals

1:50:32 ↗ that's just my two cents so i'm

1:50:35 ↗ forewarning whoever's coming

1:50:39 ↗ yeah thank you my i needed to circle

1:50:42 ↗ with our deputy administrator that

1:50:44 ↗ that's who was planning to come and i

1:50:46 ↗ believe her intent was to read the

1:50:48 ↗ overview of the process and start the

1:50:50 ↗ conversation with the board about um

1:50:55 ↗ uh

1:50:56 ↗ environmental scorecard essentially for

1:50:57 ↗ the cip so i'll she's on my list to

1:51:00 ↗ circle with this week or next week and i

1:51:02 ↗ can

1:51:03 ↗ send a note out to the board on what we

1:51:05 ↗ expect for that presentation

1:51:08 ↗ i think we should see projects as well

1:51:10 ↗ that's just my two cents because

1:51:13 ↗ i think we have been signaling to

1:51:15 ↗ departments they need to do things

1:51:17 ↗ differently we're hoping to signal that

1:51:20 ↗ and i don't think

1:51:23 ↗ i think that's the message we've got to

1:51:25 ↗ get back to council at some point if

1:51:27 ↗ we're not seeing that and that is that

1:51:29 ↗ with the capital

1:51:31 ↗ this is my

1:51:32 ↗ guess

1:51:33 ↗ the capital program will not allow us

1:51:36 ↗ likely to meet

1:51:37 ↗ our icap goals

1:51:40 ↗ our climate action commitments i mean

1:51:42 ↗ likely it might but

1:51:45 ↗ it takes a whole different kind of

1:51:47 ↗ thinking to build a catholic program to

1:51:49 ↗ meet the deadline or the

1:51:52 ↗ goals we set for 2030.

1:51:54 ↗ and

1:51:56 ↗ that's just

1:51:57 ↗ kind of my

1:52:00 ↗ and as someone who managed capital for a

1:52:03 ↗ agency this is would be very hard to do

1:52:10 ↗ and i do think on that same topic like

1:52:13 ↗ and you mentioned next year hopefully we

1:52:16 ↗ the city will have more

1:52:18 ↗ kind of bandwidth to look at internal

1:52:19 ↗ operations but i do think

1:52:22 ↗ i can't remember what it was but there

1:52:24 ↗ are certain things like overhauling the

1:52:26 ↗ security system that

1:52:28 ↗ are there is it like we have to go and

1:52:30 ↗ buy a 150 lead electric leaf like

1:52:33 ↗ there's some things that like

1:52:35 ↗ are kind of operating that maybe we need

1:52:37 ↗ to think about making capital because of

1:52:39 ↗ the scale of like what we need to

1:52:41 ↗ replace so i would be really interested

1:52:43 ↗ like one there's going to be it sounds

1:52:45 ↗ like yeah that scorecard of like

1:52:48 ↗ kind of informing

1:52:50 ↗ purchasing decisions with

1:52:52 ↗ like this in mind but also are there

1:52:54 ↗ just like

1:52:55 ↗ things that we need to be prioritizing

1:52:57 ↗ is like these are

1:52:59 ↗ like we need to make a commitment and

1:53:01 ↗ like this is a

1:53:02 ↗ a large expense that we might need to

1:53:04 ↗ think about including

1:53:05 ↗ um that you might just be replacing one

1:53:08 ↗ usually just replacing things as they

1:53:10 ↗ broke are there any things that we can't

1:53:12 ↗ wait until they break to

1:53:14 ↗ to take them out of service

1:53:16 ↗ would be another area that i do think it

1:53:18 ↗ sounds like it'll probably be on what we

1:53:20 ↗ talk about next year i'm curious how

1:53:21 ↗ stuff like that

1:53:23 ↗ makes it i mean i think that part of

1:53:25 ↗ like how things get purchased and how

1:53:28 ↗ these types of decisions get made is

1:53:30 ↗ something i'm really interested in

1:53:32 ↗ diving into next year so

1:53:34 ↗ um i think the cip

1:53:37 ↗ conversation probably won't talk about

1:53:38 ↗ that but that's where i think we might

1:53:40 ↗ need to have that be a part of the cip

1:53:42 ↗ conversation

1:53:43 ↗ um

1:53:45 ↗ because otherwise i just some of these

1:53:46 ↗ things that we're doing or to nancy

1:53:48 ↗ point like goals that we might have

1:53:51 ↗ are going to be really hard to do just

1:53:53 ↗ like asking council for

1:53:56 ↗ some expenditure where some of these

1:53:58 ↗ might not be expenditures that they're

1:54:00 ↗ really able to do so just think of being

1:54:03 ↗ planned one thinking about some of those

1:54:04 ↗ topics with the area worthwhile as we

1:54:07 ↗ have the cip as well as the internal

1:54:10 ↗ focus

1:54:19 ↗ great that's all i had all right any

1:54:22 ↗ other business or reports out from

1:54:25 ↗ the rest of the board

1:54:28 ↗ rishi yeah it's not really um

1:54:32 ↗ anything we've talked about but i just

1:54:33 ↗ had like a question to the board is so

1:54:36 ↗ at skyline high school um we're really

1:54:38 ↗ interested in incorporating like green

1:54:40 ↗ building initiatives so my question to

1:54:42 ↗ you is whether you have any idea of like

1:54:44 ↗ either loading group or

1:54:46 ↗ other

1:54:48 ↗ actions we can pursue with our school

1:54:50 ↗ board to make skyline

1:54:52 ↗ a green building

1:54:56 ↗ are you um

1:54:58 ↗ recycling and doing compost

1:55:00 ↗ and all of that already yeah so that's

1:55:03 ↗ one of the issues we

1:55:04 ↗ we have no collector who comes to grab

1:55:07 ↗ our compost after the pandemic since

1:55:11 ↗ so currently it's just garbage and

1:55:13 ↗ recycling

1:55:15 ↗ so that's obviously something we're

1:55:17 ↗ looking towards

1:55:18 ↗ but it's not clear at the moment that's

1:55:20 ↗ going to be possible if there's no one

1:55:21 ↗ there to collect it

1:55:24 ↗ there's a couple ideas so with compost

1:55:26 ↗ you can

1:55:27 ↗ make your own compost pile talk to your

1:55:29 ↗ facilities department and see if they'd

1:55:31 ↗ be willing to do something along those

1:55:32 ↗ lines and use it

1:55:34 ↗ um wazoo used to do that

1:55:37 ↗ and they used to write they had a class

1:55:39 ↗ all about combos

1:55:44 ↗ but they they used the compost around

1:55:46 ↗ the facility

1:55:48 ↗ in their gardens and whatnot so that was

1:55:50 ↗ one way that they dealt with that

1:55:51 ↗ problem over there because pullman

1:55:53 ↗ doesn't have that collection either

1:55:55 ↗ um downspout disconnection of your

1:55:57 ↗ building if your building has downspouts

1:56:00 ↗ going into the ground then that means

1:56:01 ↗ they're going into the storm water

1:56:02 ↗ system somewhere you could look to

1:56:04 ↗ disconnect those and put that water onto

1:56:06 ↗ the ground

1:56:07 ↗ rather than have it go into the streams

1:56:08 ↗ and lights

1:56:10 ↗ there's lots of little things that can

1:56:12 ↗ be done along those lines

1:56:14 ↗ you might even she have some success

1:56:17 ↗ getting a consultant on board pro bono

1:56:20 ↗ for free

1:56:21 ↗ to come just talk walk around the

1:56:23 ↗ building with you guys and

1:56:27 ↗ they can use it as a

1:56:28 ↗ sales pitch or something along their

1:56:30 ↗ lines

1:56:31 ↗ okay thank you very much yeah that's

1:56:32 ↗ exactly the kind of feedback i'm looking

1:56:34 ↗ for

1:56:35 ↗ i'd also be interested in the same thing

1:56:37 ↗ we just talked about like leaf blower

1:56:39 ↗ like there's all these

1:56:41 ↗ i mean big building improvements might

1:56:42 ↗ be

1:56:43 ↗ tough like i actually think some of the

1:56:45 ↗ lower hanging fruit are like

1:56:47 ↗ yeah are people using gas power

1:56:49 ↗ two-stroke leaf blowers and that those

1:56:51 ↗ types of things like what is the ground

1:56:52 ↗ crew using

1:56:53 ↗ um

1:56:55 ↗ that would be an area i mean

1:56:57 ↗ vehicles are probably tough um

1:57:00 ↗ vehicles and heating and like cooling

1:57:02 ↗ systems would probably be tough that's

1:57:03 ↗ where a lot of the apartments

1:57:06 ↗ um yeah

1:57:10 ↗ led lights

1:57:12 ↗ and um

1:57:14 ↗ but there's timers to make sure that the

1:57:16 ↗ lights are going off if nobody's in

1:57:19 ↗ using it

1:57:21 ↗ towards the bathroom toilets low flush

1:57:24 ↗ toilets

1:57:26 ↗ um

1:57:27 ↗ your sinks that you're basically you

1:57:29 ↗ know your glasses they turn off when

1:57:31 ↗ your hands there

1:57:33 ↗ don't know how they're set up in there

1:57:34 ↗ but i'm sure scotland's pretty high-tech

1:57:50 ↗ some of them are

1:57:53 ↗ yeah and so that's things that you know

1:57:55 ↗ you can bring to the administration

1:57:56 ↗ potentially as improvements

1:57:59 ↗ to the building to be more green

1:58:01 ↗ pse would be more than happy to come in

1:58:03 ↗ and talk with you about your lighting

1:58:06 ↗ yeah and potentially like

1:58:09 ↗ when they need to get a new heater if

1:58:11 ↗ they need to get a new heater and

1:58:13 ↗ switching to a heat pump

1:58:15 ↗ do you have an air conditioner yeah

1:58:18 ↗ yeah so

1:58:19 ↗ they might already have a giant heat

1:58:20 ↗ pump but if not that's something to

1:58:23 ↗ think about

1:58:24 ↗ bring some average plateau water and

1:58:26 ↗ sewer district i assume that supervise

1:58:28 ↗ the water and steward having to do an

1:58:30 ↗ inventory of the fixture counts and what

1:58:32 ↗ could be done to improve it and their

1:58:34 ↗ conservation program could help fund it

1:58:35 ↗ for the for the school district so

1:58:38 ↗ um through cascade water alliance or

1:58:40 ↗ something like that so there's an

1:58:42 ↗ opportunity there if you bring in the um

1:58:44 ↗ water district water district they could

1:58:46 ↗ find place

1:58:49 ↗ thank you so much and maybe like if

1:58:50 ↗ there's natural light coming in

1:58:53 ↗ do you even need to have the lights on

1:58:55 ↗ and stuff like that and then the

1:58:57 ↗ cleaning

1:58:58 ↗ products

1:59:00 ↗ what kind of cleaning products are they

1:59:01 ↗ using

1:59:04 ↗ uh there's a lot of really

1:59:06 ↗ environmental environmentally friendly

1:59:08 ↗ cleaning products out there

1:59:10 ↗ even just vinegar and water works great

1:59:18 ↗ [Laughter]

1:59:29 ↗ the school but the students one thing

1:59:31 ↗ that

1:59:32 ↗ and this is a hard sell i would just be

1:59:35 ↗ interested in

1:59:36 ↗ i would actually be more interested in

1:59:38 ↗ your guys's feedback on like the

1:59:39 ↗ palatability of

1:59:42 ↗ every day i live right now high school

1:59:43 ↗ high school the number of like

1:59:46 ↗ individual cars going to the same place

1:59:49 ↗ and on the bus behind them

1:59:51 ↗ that that seems like an opportunity

1:59:53 ↗ as well and that doesn't involve so

1:59:56 ↗ maybe in some ways with the

1:59:57 ↗ administration but

1:59:59 ↗ that seems like a if there's any like

2:00:02 ↗ that's a behavior change yeah

2:00:04 ↗ opportunity that

2:00:07 ↗ that uh it also would help everybody get

2:00:09 ↗ to school faster and that's definitely

2:00:10 ↗ wrong

2:00:12 ↗ one of the most important things is that

2:00:14 ↗ people could um ride their bicycles

2:00:21 ↗ yeah

2:00:22 ↗ ride the bus

2:00:23 ↗ walk

2:00:24 ↗ it's

2:00:36 ↗ and that's where it could be in our same

2:00:38 ↗ time

2:00:39 ↗ our incentives for certain behavior from

2:00:40 ↗ the school that would be

2:00:42 ↗ i don't know

2:00:44 ↗ yeah a carpooling spot would be one um

2:00:46 ↗ oh yeah up front

2:00:48 ↗ yeah something like that to incentivize

2:00:50 ↗ the right behavior

2:00:52 ↗ we'll find some security for e-bikes if

2:00:54 ↗ you can get the kids to more consider

2:00:56 ↗ riding an e-bike if there's a secure

2:00:58 ↗ place for the bike because i know i just

2:01:00 ↗ get ripped off a lot so

2:01:02 ↗ you know maybe creating some kind of

2:01:03 ↗ locker system for bikes so that

2:01:07 ↗ that's a big expense car's easy to lock

2:01:09 ↗ up a bike is not

2:01:12 ↗ yeah but

2:01:13 ↗ just maybe promote how much more fun it

2:01:16 ↗ is to carpool and go by yourself

2:01:20 ↗ thank you so much all right all right

2:01:23 ↗ any of anything else from anyone

2:01:27 ↗ all right

2:01:29 ↗ all right thanks everyone

2:01:31 ↗ all right great meeting everyone

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