Environmental Board · Wednesday, September 14, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of August 10, 2022

packet pp.3–4

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 08-10-22 Environmental Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. August 10, 2022 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. AGENDA ITEMS

King County Re+ Program

Information · Amy Ockerlander, John Walsh and Brian Halverson, King County Solid Waste · packet pp.5–18

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Staff report:

King County Solid Waste Division AGENDA ITEMS a)

Natural Environment Checklist

Discussion · Christian Geitz, Planning Manager Doug Yormick, Assistant Planner · packet pp.19–87

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Staff report:

Community Planning & Development 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

5. REPORTS

Title 18 Update and ICAP Crosswalk

Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.89–92

Topics: Land UseTransportationClimate

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Staff report:

Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Environmental Board Schedule

Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.93–95

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Staff report:

2022 Environmental Board Schedule (tentative) All meetings are at 6:30 unless noted otherwise. (updated 8/31/22)

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0:02 ↗ all right welcome to the uh september

0:04 ↗ 14th meeting of the ischool

0:06 ↗ environmental board i'm jamie finch and

0:08 ↗ i'll be your chair tonight

0:09 ↗ um due to the hybrid nature of this

0:11 ↗ meeting we will have some members

0:13 ↗ attending in person and others by

0:14 ↗ computer or phone for all meeting

0:16 ↗ attendees attending remotely please

0:18 ↗ state your name each time before

0:20 ↗ speaking if uh mute your microphone when

0:22 ↗ not speaking and then commissioners if

0:25 ↗ you have a desire to speak i am now

0:27 ↗ positioned at the back so i can actually

0:29 ↗ see when you tip your signs

0:31 ↗ but please do that if you would like to

0:33 ↗ speak

0:34 ↗ [Music]

0:35 ↗ as we've been doing at the end of major

0:38 ↗ sections of the agenda we will be

0:40 ↗ summarizing

0:42 ↗ the discussion um and asking for kind of

0:45 ↗ a quick thumbs up thumbs down whether uh

0:48 ↗ board members feel that captures

0:50 ↗ um what the discussion was

0:52 ↗ i think from there stacey could probably

0:55 ↗ jump into

0:56 ↗ attendance um

0:59 ↗ so if you want to run through that be

1:01 ↗ great great

1:03 ↗ tom anderson here

1:05 ↗ nathaniel

1:06 ↗ nothing

1:08 ↗ uh

1:10 ↗ nancy davidson here

1:12 ↗ jamie finch here

1:15 ↗ cameron fisher has an excuse absence

1:17 ↗ rishi hazrat here

1:20 ↗ dan hintz has unexcused absence laura

1:22 ↗ levaco has an excuse absence

1:25 ↗ uh ashman monacarron

1:29 ↗ john mcwilliams here

1:31 ↗ and newcomer

1:32 ↗ here and janet wall has an excused

1:35 ↗ absence

1:37 ↗ hey thank you stacey next up we have

1:41 ↗ approval of the minutes

1:43 ↗ does anyone have any comments on

1:46 ↗ minutes from august 10th

1:52 ↗ hearing none those are approved by

1:53 ↗ unanimous consent

1:55 ↗ and then up next i believe we have

1:57 ↗ public comments i think i know we have

2:00 ↗ at least one member of the public that's

2:01 ↗ interested in speaking this

2:03 ↗ and being raised

2:07 ↗ so i think general guidelines for public

2:10 ↗ comment um looks like we have attendees

2:12 ↗ coming in via

2:14 ↗ web platform so skip the phone part um

2:18 ↗ but please unmute your microphone state

2:20 ↗ your name address and relationship to

2:22 ↗ the city

2:23 ↗ speak clearly and pause frequently

2:24 ↗ please limit comments to five minutes

2:27 ↗ and then we ask that you need your

2:28 ↗ microphone when done and then stacey do

2:30 ↗ you want to run through if there's any

2:32 ↗ anyone else that beyond who we have

2:35 ↗ already indicated desired speed great

2:37 ↗ and it looks like we do have one

2:39 ↗ foam collar if you do want to run

2:41 ↗ through

2:44 ↗ if you're on the phone please press star

2:47 ↗ 3

2:48 ↗ to indicate your desire to speak and

2:49 ↗ then i believe um

2:51 ↗ stacy will be able to help you with

2:53 ↗ muting and unmuting

2:54 ↗ um i don't know if we've

2:57 ↗ we figured out who that is attending by

2:59 ↗ python

3:02 ↗ um

3:02 ↗ well maybe we'll if you just want to run

3:04 ↗ through um maybe the first person that

3:07 ↗ indicated they want to speak

3:09 ↗ that person is interested great so um

3:12 ↗ and just wanted to acknowledge too that

3:13 ↗ we did

3:14 ↗ receive two written comments from connie

3:17 ↗ marsh one was project specific on the

3:18 ↗ rally pipeline the other was on icap

3:21 ↗ input on channel 18.

3:23 ↗ um connie i will go ahead and unmute you

3:28 ↗ and

3:28 ↗ you should be able to turn on your video

3:30 ↗ as well

3:32 ↗ i

3:33 ↗ um i'm assuming connie marsh yes i'm

3:36 ↗ assuming that you

3:38 ↗ uh read the

3:39 ↗ emails so i'm moving on to something

3:42 ↗ different and i'll wind up for those at

3:43 ↗ the end

3:44 ↗ so first thing is the king county

3:47 ↗ um and i was reading the waste stuff

3:51 ↗ and what struck me is we're chasing a

3:54 ↗ running beast so the first thing that

3:56 ↗ needs to happen is you actually have to

3:58 ↗ address lifestyle changes and don't buy

4:02 ↗ use your old stuff more and then if

4:05 ↗ you're gonna buy buy used and then you

4:07 ↗ can go into the whole waste stream thing

4:10 ↗ so as i was cruising through marymore

4:12 ↗ park and thinking of my life most of the

4:16 ↗ large parks in major cities have big

4:19 ↗ swap meet antique show

4:21 ↗ type things in in one big park and they

4:25 ↗ invite their charities to fundraise and

4:27 ↗ sell used stuff

4:29 ↗ and they help support the cost and

4:32 ↗ people come out and they sell their

4:34 ↗ stuff and they buy you stuff and they

4:36 ↗ have a great time and that is one way

4:38 ↗ that a person could highlight um and

4:41 ↗ make cool

4:43 ↗ not going to target and buying new stuff

4:46 ↗ that you then throw away

4:48 ↗ moving on to the board checklist

4:51 ↗ um

4:52 ↗ ah

4:53 ↗ well i'm going back to its heart it was

4:56 ↗ envisioned as a database that showed the

5:00 ↗ actual impacts and then the mitigations

5:03 ↗ for impacts that was supposed to be

5:05 ↗ carried over time to see if we are

5:08 ↗ actually

5:09 ↗ me meeting our goals and so

5:12 ↗ it seems to me it needs to be super

5:14 ↗ short super accurate data driven with

5:18 ↗ summary pieces

5:20 ↗ on how the projects did not fit with the

5:22 ↗ environmental goals

5:24 ↗ per project and then a larger summary at

5:27 ↗ the end of the year as to whether the

5:30 ↗ entire code as a whole is in keeping and

5:33 ↗ fitting with our overall arching

5:35 ↗ environmental goals i don't think this

5:38 ↗ checklist does that but i think that's

5:40 ↗ what it should do

5:43 ↗ so on to the ppc information that i sent

5:46 ↗ out i tried to show you how ppc was

5:50 ↗ focused in this conversation that was

5:52 ↗ presented

5:53 ↗ um

5:54 ↗ and so hopefully you read it and and

5:56 ↗ understand that focus and one note is

5:59 ↗ that the staff keeps raising the cepa

6:02 ↗ limits

6:03 ↗ to 20 and 30 thousand this time it's

6:05 ↗ twenty thousand no matter how many times

6:07 ↗ ppc says they want it lower than that

6:10 ↗ and i'm not sure

6:12 ↗ why the there is this push but i thought

6:14 ↗ you should be aware that this push kept

6:17 ↗ happening uh thank you

6:23 ↗ thank you connie

6:27 ↗ i do not see anyone else indicating

6:30 ↗ they'd like to speak

6:32 ↗ all right well with that then we'll move

6:35 ↗ into

6:36 ↗ the core of our agenda um the first item

6:40 ↗ is the king county three plus program

6:43 ↗ um so i don't know if stacy if you want

6:46 ↗ to introduce the members joining or if

6:49 ↗ they just want to introduce themselves

6:51 ↗ they can take it away

6:52 ↗ sure yeah i think just a note for the

6:54 ↗ board um

6:55 ↗ the request came in to the mayor for a

6:58 ↗ presentation she asked that this come to

7:00 ↗ the environmental board first so i think

7:03 ↗ tonight is mostly informational and and

7:05 ↗ we'll see where we go from there

7:07 ↗ um john anyone else from your team that

7:09 ↗ i should um make sure is unmuted or are

7:12 ↗ you the primary presenter

7:14 ↗ i see amy ockerland or she's our

7:15 ↗ government relations person and then uh

7:17 ↗ kat mclaughlin is actually here he's the

7:18 ↗ division director

7:37 ↗ come on

7:49 ↗ should i just start

7:52 ↗ sorry i'm trying i'm

7:53 ↗ reorganizing my screen so i can see

7:58 ↗ all right go ahead

7:59 ↗ cool yes i'm john also mds strategy and

8:02 ↗ performance section manager for king

8:03 ↗ county waste uh solid waste division uh

8:05 ↗ so my team works on things like replus

8:08 ↗ or rates or long-term planning things

8:09 ↗ like that

8:10 ↗ uh yeah i'm here to talk about this new

8:12 ↗ county program that we're calling replus

8:13 ↗ uh hopefully you're able to see that gif

8:15 ↗ so if you saw there was kind of like a

8:16 ↗ rolodex and you saw all those kind of

8:18 ↗ rewards spinning around uh that's to

8:20 ↗ just kind of help us explain oh sorry

8:22 ↗ can you go back one that's to help us

8:23 ↗ explain

8:24 ↗ uh sort of what the program is right

8:25 ↗ because um when you think about anything

8:28 ↗ that's that has to do with reducing

8:29 ↗ waste or waste prevention all those

8:31 ↗ words start with re right you could

8:33 ↗ recycle that piece of paper or reuse

8:35 ↗ that water bottle repair that bike

8:36 ↗ restore that piece of furniture et

8:38 ↗ cetera et cetera right all those rewards

8:39 ↗ so um replus is a way for us to capture

8:42 ↗ all those words and really what we want

8:44 ↗ people to think about is

8:45 ↗ before we throw that thing away see if

8:47 ↗ you can replace it instead right kind of

8:48 ↗ what that

8:50 ↗ person in the public was saying earlier

8:51 ↗ right it's all about reuse and

8:52 ↗ prevention and things upstream

8:54 ↗ before people even buy something and

8:56 ↗ then throw it away so next slide please

9:02 ↗ so this is just a quick look at our

9:03 ↗ mission and our vision statement

9:05 ↗ really replaces our program to reach the

9:07 ↗ county's zero waste of resources goal

9:09 ↗ so about 70 of what currently gets

9:11 ↗ thrown away every year is useful right

9:13 ↗ it's things like cardboard metal food

9:15 ↗ all that stuff uh that that could all be

9:17 ↗ put to better and more useful purposes

9:19 ↗ than just ending up in our landfill

9:20 ↗ right so the replus mission is really

9:22 ↗ about

9:23 ↗ trying to find ways to prevent that from

9:25 ↗ even coming into our system uh or

9:26 ↗ finding a better place for it through

9:28 ↗ through recycling and things like that

9:29 ↗ so

9:30 ↗ uh next slide please

9:33 ↗ then replace is a call to action there's

9:35 ↗ a lot of text on here i'm not going to

9:36 ↗ read it all um but you know this is

9:38 ↗ really highlighted in several county and

9:40 ↗ city uh documents right one is the

9:41 ↗ strategic climate action plan you can

9:43 ↗ see there says zero food waste in the

9:44 ↗ landfill by 2030.

9:46 ↗ it's been in king county code since the

9:48 ↗ early 2000s so you can see another

9:50 ↗ reference to zero waste of resources by

9:51 ↗ 2030 there

9:53 ↗ we have our king county equity and

9:54 ↗ social justice strategic plan here

9:56 ↗ because we want to make sure that we're

9:57 ↗ doing this in a way that you know

9:58 ↗ includes the community that doesn't

10:00 ↗ further any you know

10:02 ↗ burdens or anything like that so you

10:04 ↗ want to you know how we do it is

10:05 ↗ important too so we're using our esj

10:06 ↗ strategic plan to help us guide us there

10:08 ↗ uh it's also in the k4c that's the

10:11 ↗ king county cities for climate change

10:14 ↗ commitment so you can see uh also in

10:16 ↗ there there's zero zero waste of

10:17 ↗ resources by 2030 and then the

10:18 ↗ comprehensive solid waste management

10:20 ↗ plan that was adopted in 2019 also has

10:22 ↗ the references so really um you know

10:24 ↗ just kind of wanted to show that this

10:25 ↗ has been something we've been talking

10:26 ↗ about uh for quite a long time now and

10:28 ↗ it's in a lot of our kind of regional

10:30 ↗ commitment documents and so we're really

10:32 ↗ trying to

10:32 ↗ just deliver on this very important goal

10:34 ↗ that we have as a region

10:37 ↗ next slide please

10:41 ↗ so the next few slides get into some

10:43 ↗ survey research we did we just completed

10:45 ↗ a public survey last month

10:47 ↗ we enlisted emc research to do this and

10:50 ↗ um they asked several questions but i

10:51 ↗ just pulled up a couple of them so what

10:53 ↗ this site shows is that just hearing a

10:55 ↗ brief introductory statement about

10:56 ↗ replus there's already strong support

10:58 ↗ you can see about 63 supported it eight

11:01 ↗ percent opposed it and then 29 had never

11:03 ↗ really heard of it before

11:04 ↗ um next slide please

11:07 ↗ john quick question for you do you

11:08 ↗ prefer to take

11:10 ↗ questions as we go or at the end

11:14 ↗ uh as we go it's fine yeah it's okay to

11:16 ↗ interrupt

11:20 ↗ are there are there any questions i

11:22 ↗ guess maybe stop there

11:24 ↗ clear on how we should uh how we should

11:26 ↗ engage so

11:27 ↗ okay

11:29 ↗ gotcha okay um so this is just another

11:31 ↗ slide that shows like some more general

11:33 ↗ questions around waste prevention and

11:34 ↗ recycling and reduction um and this is

11:37 ↗ also really good results you can see the

11:38 ↗ top two right the first one says that 91

11:40 ↗ percent of people want to have

11:42 ↗ harmonized recycling across our service

11:44 ↗ area right so we have a situation where

11:46 ↗ what you can recycle difference

11:48 ↗ differs you know depending on where you

11:49 ↗ live work and play um the second

11:51 ↗ question also says really strong support

11:53 ↗ 91

11:55 ↗ for enacting legislation and

11:56 ↗ technologies to recycle more and reduce

11:58 ↗ waste so um there's eight questions here

12:01 ↗ and you know the lowest one had 67

12:02 ↗ percent approval so again most folks

12:05 ↗ that took the survey just seemed to be

12:06 ↗ really supportive of just these concepts

12:08 ↗ in general around waste prevention and

12:09 ↗ reduction

12:11 ↗ uh next slide please

12:13 ↗ and this is kind of the payoff side so

12:15 ↗ you know two slides ago i showed that's

12:17 ↗ what was on the left right just hearing

12:18 ↗ a brief statement that was kind of the

12:19 ↗ initial gut

12:21 ↗ reaction of folks and then on the right

12:22 ↗ that's what happened after we just said

12:23 ↗ a couple couple statements around replus

12:26 ↗ basically and you can see the support

12:28 ↗ went up 26 right up to 88 percent uh

12:31 ↗ opposition only went up two so it went

12:33 ↗ from eight to ten percent and then

12:35 ↗ at 29 that had never heard of it or

12:37 ↗ didn't have any idea about it went down

12:38 ↗ to zero right so uh you know the big pay

12:41 ↗ or take away here is just you know it it

12:43 ↗ didn't take a lot of effort to sort of

12:44 ↗ explain the program and people just kind

12:46 ↗ of further bought into it once he heard

12:48 ↗ about it so

12:49 ↗ oh we feel like that's just really

12:50 ↗ encouraging uh news as we try to roll

12:52 ↗ out this new program so

12:55 ↗ john we do have a question from

12:58 ↗ sure hi john i'm curious you're talking

13:01 ↗ about the support that you've received

13:03 ↗ is this from

13:06 ↗ in the community is it from businesses

13:09 ↗ is it what it who did you survey as part

13:11 ↗ of this

13:12 ↗ yeah this was uh all residences so i

13:14 ↗ think i forget the number i think there

13:16 ↗ was over a thousand

13:18 ↗ uh

13:19 ↗ you know people in the number on the

13:20 ↗ survey um

13:22 ↗ and then we've been doing some focus

13:24 ↗ groups and a couple of just kind of more

13:25 ↗ individual discussions with certain

13:27 ↗ stakeholders too around this so

13:29 ↗ did you look across the various social

13:31 ↗ structures of the county or was it

13:35 ↗ yeah we we tried to uh it was broken out

13:38 ↗ by uh you know gender and racial

13:40 ↗ demographics uh it's also broken out i

13:42 ↗ think by unincorporated versus

13:44 ↗ incorporated uh things like that so

13:46 ↗ and yeah we have other slides that show

13:48 ↗ uh some more like i guess they're called

13:50 ↗ crosstabs on it and like really kind of

13:52 ↗ across all of those

13:54 ↗ however you sort of sliced it and diced

13:56 ↗ it it was just very positive across all

13:57 ↗ of those different uh demographic uh

14:00 ↗ categories so

14:02 ↗ thank you

14:06 ↗ next slide please

14:09 ↗ so here's just some context before we

14:11 ↗ jump into you know more specifically

14:12 ↗ what is replus about um in king county's

14:14 ↗ 50 year history of waste management

14:16 ↗ you know this includes a lot of

14:17 ↗ innovation such as establishing one of

14:19 ↗ the nation's first curbside recycling

14:21 ↗ programs uh also increasing diversion of

14:24 ↗ our construction and demolition

14:25 ↗ recycling uh and then you know

14:27 ↗ implementing collection of yard waste so

14:29 ↗ in 2018 uh we recycled 1 million tons

14:32 ↗ versus throwing away 800 000 tons so

14:35 ↗ that you know led to one of the highest

14:36 ↗ recycling rates at about 54

14:39 ↗ as you can see on the on the green table

14:41 ↗ there um however we're also lagging in a

14:43 ↗ few areas right like many cities uh

14:45 ↗ collect garbage every week but collect

14:47 ↗ organics and recycling every other week

14:49 ↗ so that's an opportunity where we can

14:50 ↗ maybe flip those two around uh extended

14:52 ↗ producer responsibility has been

14:54 ↗ implemented in uh many european

14:56 ↗ countries and i found out we're actually

14:57 ↗ the last

14:59 ↗ state on the west coast that does not

15:00 ↗ have an epr program um and epr is all

15:03 ↗ about making or having

15:05 ↗ producers you know coca-cola amazon etc

15:08 ↗ take more responsibility for their

15:10 ↗ products how they're made and helping

15:11 ↗ them get recycled more um

15:14 ↗ and then around 15 of what gets thrown

15:15 ↗ away is food this is about a hundred

15:17 ↗ thousand tons of foods that's a lot of a

15:19 ↗ lot of food going to waste and that all

15:20 ↗ just ends up in the landfill so um

15:23 ↗ and then the green visual you know even

15:25 ↗ though i just mentioned 54 is great

15:27 ↗ right for a recycling rate you know the

15:28 ↗ us average is around 30

15:30 ↗ i think 32 or so

15:32 ↗ you can see we basically kind of

15:34 ↗ plateaued right i mean we've been stuck

15:36 ↗ between 50 and 54

15:38 ↗ for this for the last seven years but

15:40 ↗ even if we went back even further you

15:41 ↗ would see it's just been kind of kind of

15:43 ↗ flattened out so really the replus

15:44 ↗ program is the way to try to

15:46 ↗ uh get us to the next level right kind

15:48 ↗ of break through this plateau and

15:49 ↗ increase recycling and diversion as much

15:51 ↗ as we can so

15:56 ↗ um i was curious do you have a

15:58 ↗ this is probably hard

16:00 ↗ um

16:01 ↗ i'm not sure how you get this data but

16:03 ↗ of the 46 that's not

16:06 ↗ like currently captured do you like do

16:08 ↗ we know what that is like how does that

16:10 ↗ break down

16:12 ↗ yeah so let's see so these are two

16:14 ↗ kind of two different uh things well so

16:17 ↗ what we do is we have a waste

16:18 ↗ characterization study that we do every

16:20 ↗ you know three to four years we're going

16:21 ↗ through one right now and that tells us

16:23 ↗ what's in the waste stream and so

16:26 ↗ when i referenced earlier that seventy

16:27 ↗ percent of what gets thrown away

16:28 ↗ currently as value that was based on

16:29 ↗ that waste characterization study uh we

16:32 ↗ have folks that go into our transfer

16:33 ↗ stations they like they pull out the

16:35 ↗ waste they have a bunch of like

16:36 ↗ different buckets basically and so you

16:38 ↗ know they throw the metal in that bucket

16:40 ↗ the

16:40 ↗ diapers which is actually trash in a

16:42 ↗ different bucket and you know paper

16:43 ↗ plastic etc um so they do what's called

16:45 ↗ a waste sort

16:47 ↗ and so the based on the i think it's the

16:48 ↗ 2019 waste characterization study that's

16:51 ↗ where we found that yeah about 70 could

16:53 ↗ have uh could have been really been

16:54 ↗ recycled instead so

16:57 ↗ so i think my question is on the

16:59 ↗ specific chart that's shown here

17:02 ↗ um

17:03 ↗ like this implies that 46

17:07 ↗ the other side of the 54 is not recycled

17:10 ↗ i was curious if we know what types of

17:12 ↗ materials

17:13 ↗ make up the bulk of that or how that

17:15 ↗ breaks down below

17:17 ↗ just kind of a

17:18 ↗ overall number

17:20 ↗ yeah the so

17:22 ↗ the 46 percent is about 800 000 tons of

17:25 ↗ garbage

17:26 ↗ um

17:27 ↗ i don't have it in front of me i think

17:28 ↗ food makes up about a third of that

17:31 ↗ a third of that eight hundred thousand i

17:32 ↗ think plastic actually it's kind of

17:34 ↗ actually it's on the next couple of

17:35 ↗ slides actually yeah sorry the civil

17:36 ↗ sites actually have a parenthesis that

17:38 ↗ says how much of the waste stream

17:39 ↗ uh plastic and paper and all that stuff

17:41 ↗ makes up so

17:43 ↗ the 54 is the total of the entire waste

17:46 ↗ stream that is recycled and by tonnage

17:49 ↗ presumably is that that's how that

17:51 ↗ number is calculated

17:53 ↗ no so this is this takes uh the total

17:56 ↗ tons of

17:58 ↗ um materials recycled right so like that

18:00 ↗ goes through what's called a material

18:01 ↗ recovery facility in our area so that's

18:03 ↗ like the actual recycling number and

18:05 ↗ then it's divided by the total tonnage

18:07 ↗ that we get at our landfill so that's

18:08 ↗ the trash and then it adds back in that

18:10 ↗ recycling amount so it's a it's a

18:13 ↗ it's that kind of proportion i guess

18:15 ↗ recycling divided by disposable plus

18:16 ↗ recycling

18:18 ↗ okay that's helpful i i thought it might

18:20 ↗ have more i feel like of total what

18:22 ↗ could be recycled we are recycling at a

18:24 ↗ rate of 54 but it's really of our total

18:26 ↗ base street

18:28 ↗ yeah total generation yeah garbage plus

18:31 ↗ recycling yeah the total amount that's

18:32 ↗ generated so

18:39 ↗ uh so this slide is just kind of a look

18:41 ↗ ahead of like what does zero raise to

18:42 ↗ zero waste of resources look like by

18:44 ↗ 2030 right so if we're successful in

18:46 ↗ this program uh you can see a lot of

18:48 ↗ amazing things here right 465 000 less

18:51 ↗ tons of waste being thrown away right if

18:53 ↗ we're actually going to recycle this you

18:54 ↗ know all the paper and things like

18:56 ↗ cardboard that comes up in our trash

18:58 ↗ right now that could save a million or

19:00 ↗ more trees right i mentioned earlier

19:02 ↗ this is like a 100 000 tons of food and

19:05 ↗ you know of the edible portion of that

19:06 ↗ that could you know feed 92 000 people a

19:08 ↗ year

19:09 ↗ it's also want to highlight you know

19:10 ↗ potentially 500 or more green jobs are

19:12 ↗ created right so replus can really be a

19:14 ↗ job growth engine um

19:16 ↗ you know new capital projects are going

19:18 ↗ to have to be built to process this

19:19 ↗ waste we're going to need people to pick

19:20 ↗ up the waste and you know transport it

19:23 ↗ so a lot of new green jobs could be

19:25 ↗ created 24 million in future cost uh

19:27 ↗ future disposal cost avoidance so this

19:29 ↗ you know this is us assuming that we

19:31 ↗ export waste in the future and so

19:33 ↗ if we're not exporting 465 000 tons you

19:36 ↗ multiply that by the per ton you know

19:38 ↗ rate to export it and that could save us

19:40 ↗ again 24 million dollars there and then

19:42 ↗ the 150 000 fewer barrels of oil burn

19:45 ↗ that's based on the amount of plastic

19:46 ↗ that also gets thrown away and instead

19:48 ↗ of throwing it away it actually gets

19:49 ↗ recycled again

19:50 ↗ we can save a lot of uh burning of oil

19:52 ↗ there so a lot of really great benefits

19:54 ↗ you know tangible benefits uh to

19:56 ↗ mitigating climate change as well so

19:59 ↗ john we do have a question from ann

20:01 ↗ sure

20:03 ↗ john i was just wondering if this is

20:04 ↗ these are annual numbers so every year

20:07 ↗ we would save this much

20:09 ↗ yeah so really the

20:10 ↗ let's see the tons of waste that's about

20:13 ↗ annual million trees is annual uh the

20:15 ↗ food is in i think the only one that's

20:16 ↗ not is actually the 500 green jobs

20:18 ↗ created that's saying like if we were

20:20 ↗ able to

20:21 ↗ you know reduce our tonnage from that

20:22 ↗ eight hundred thousand the summer in the

20:24 ↗ three four hundred thousand range uh it

20:26 ↗ could it could potentially create 500

20:28 ↗ new jobs so

20:30 ↗ cool

20:36 ↗ okay so um this one yeah so organic so

20:39 ↗ that's the food waste uh the yard waste

20:42 ↗ and the wood waste that makes up twenty

20:43 ↗ percent um about eight hundred thousand

20:46 ↗ earlier right that gets thrown away um

20:48 ↗ so this is one of our initial focuses

20:49 ↗ because it's such a big piece of the pie

20:51 ↗ right um and so

20:53 ↗ uh these for this first set of actions

20:54 ↗ is what we're calling uh replus fast

20:56 ↗ start actions um so this one one of the

20:58 ↗ first ones is this washington state

21:00 ↗ organics legislation this actually

21:01 ↗ passed earlier this year it was called

21:02 ↗ house bill 1799

21:05 ↗ and it was a comprehensive organics

21:07 ↗ management bill

21:08 ↗ that would improve access to organics

21:09 ↗ collection strengthen food donation and

21:11 ↗ rescue

21:13 ↗ in this state and then support end

21:14 ↗ markets for compost there's also

21:15 ↗ component to this actually that would um

21:18 ↗ increase organics collection from

21:19 ↗ businesses so it's going to require

21:20 ↗ businesses uh to start separating out

21:23 ↗ their waste right you may go to like a

21:24 ↗ mall or something and right now when

21:26 ↗ you're done with your food at the food

21:27 ↗ court you just got to throw it in the

21:28 ↗ garbage can right so what this is gonna

21:30 ↗ do is gonna say no you need to have a

21:31 ↗ garbage and a compost bin for people to

21:33 ↗ throw their food scraps uh so that'll

21:35 ↗ start kicking in in 2024 it'll start

21:37 ↗ with kind of the larger businesses and

21:38 ↗ then each year kind of ramp down to the

21:41 ↗ medium and smaller size businesses but

21:42 ↗ that'll unlock i think we're i think

21:44 ↗ we're thinking there's a hundred and

21:46 ↗ thirty thousand i wanna say or you know

21:48 ↗ sixty five thousand tons of food there

21:49 ↗ so a pretty big opportunity to to get

21:52 ↗ that food you know to compost it or

21:54 ↗ something else actually i'll talk about

21:55 ↗ that something else later in a sec

21:57 ↗ single family organics collection so

22:00 ↗ you know one area you want to focus is

22:02 ↗ not just on businesses but also in

22:03 ↗ single families right and uh we don't

22:06 ↗ have requirements in the unincorporated

22:07 ↗ area of king county to have organics

22:09 ↗ collections so there's an opportunity

22:10 ↗ there to increase diversion as well um

22:14 ↗ right now we're in this phase where we

22:15 ↗ want to conduct outreach uh to help us

22:17 ↗ determine what actions to take there and

22:18 ↗ some of those actions could include uh

22:20 ↗ requiring curbside collection you know

22:22 ↗ organic subscription from from

22:24 ↗ residences in the unincorporated area

22:26 ↗ implementing a food waste ban this would

22:28 ↗ be similar to like a yard waste span

22:29 ↗ right you're not allowed to put your

22:30 ↗ grass clippings in your garbage uh can

22:33 ↗ for example

22:34 ↗ uh or i mentioned this earlier reducing

22:36 ↗ garbage collection to every other week

22:37 ↗ so those are kind of three of the

22:38 ↗ options we're exploring and once we get

22:40 ↗ the feedback then we'll um

22:42 ↗ you know look at doing some coach agents

22:44 ↗ and things like that the hope here is

22:45 ↗ that you know we're sort of leading the

22:46 ↗ way here so there's some cities that

22:48 ↗ currently don't have uh you know some of

22:50 ↗ these things like required or

22:51 ↗ subscription service so we're hoping to

22:53 ↗ lead the way there and have some other

22:54 ↗ cities participate as well

22:56 ↗ and then

22:57 ↗ non-residential food waste recycling uh

23:00 ↗ you know it's total government speak but

23:02 ↗ uh you know earlier i mentioned this uh

23:04 ↗ house bill that was going to require

23:06 ↗ businesses to start separating out their

23:07 ↗ food so we want to find some other ways

23:09 ↗ you know to process that food so we're

23:10 ↗ really kind of uh so we're exploring

23:12 ↗ like you know could we put it through an

23:14 ↗ anaerobic digestion system or or a

23:16 ↗ co-digestion system in partnership with

23:17 ↗ our wastewater treatment division so uh

23:20 ↗ exploring some options there to to

23:21 ↗ manage that commercial food waste that's

23:23 ↗ unlocked

23:30 ↗ so plastic paper and other materials

23:32 ↗ this makes up about 26

23:34 ↗ i mentioned epr earlier right it's

23:35 ↗ extended producer responsibility uh that

23:37 ↗ was actually in the state legislation

23:38 ↗ this year unfortunately did not pass uh

23:40 ↗ but we're

23:42 ↗ you know hoping it'll pass the this next

23:43 ↗ time around next may um so again that's

23:45 ↗ about asking producers

23:48 ↗ uh to start managing their um

23:50 ↗ paper and plastic packaging right so

23:52 ↗ it'd be like increasing uh

23:55 ↗ you know how we're able to process it

23:56 ↗ and some of the communications and

23:58 ↗ education around it uh mixed waste

24:00 ↗ processing so this is you know we call

24:02 ↗ this the last screen for recyclables um

24:05 ↗ you know our effort is definitely

24:06 ↗ upstream right around waste prevention

24:08 ↗ and getting people to put things in the

24:09 ↗ right bucket uh that always doesn't

24:11 ↗ happen though right i mean still you

24:12 ↗ know things will still end up in the

24:13 ↗ garbage can and so this is just uh you

24:16 ↗ know there's some technologies out there

24:17 ↗ that can take that garbage stream and

24:19 ↗ start to kind of find some of that stuff

24:21 ↗ and sort it out uh and still send it to

24:23 ↗ you know for processing um

24:26 ↗ they're you know using air belts

24:27 ↗ technology cameras robots all that stuff

24:30 ↗ um then the next two we have next cycle

24:32 ↗ washington and replace circular economy

24:34 ↗ grant so next cycle washington is a

24:36 ↗ statewide program um i tend to describe

24:39 ↗ it as like a business accelerator like a

24:40 ↗ business incubator program right it's

24:42 ↗ really trying to get brand new

24:43 ↗ businesses off the ground and the waste

24:45 ↗ prevention and diversion space and then

24:47 ↗ replace circular economy grants is

24:48 ↗ actually we set aside two million

24:50 ↗ dollars each biennium the solid waste

24:52 ↗ division for these grants and this is

24:54 ↗ open to

24:55 ↗ you know the community businesses ngos

24:58 ↗ um

24:58 ↗ and really to me this is about getting

25:00 ↗ those kind of small and medium-sized

25:01 ↗ businesses to the next level um so we

25:04 ↗ had about 48 applicants this this last

25:06 ↗ round so i think it was like a month or

25:07 ↗ two ago um and so we're kind of sorting

25:10 ↗ through that and we'll announce some of

25:11 ↗ the winners for pretty soon but

25:13 ↗ um yes this is just some of the actions

25:14 ↗ we're taking on uh plastic paper and

25:16 ↗ other materials

25:18 ↗ could you um provide a little more

25:20 ↗ detail on the extended producer

25:22 ↗ responsibility

25:24 ↗ maybe one was proposed and what the bill

25:26 ↗ that didn't pass and then how

25:29 ↗ other western states if there's any

25:31 ↗ differences between how that was

25:32 ↗ proposed and what what's already been

25:34 ↗ approved in other states would be great

25:35 ↗ to just get a quick download on what

25:37 ↗ that looks like

25:39 ↗ um i'll try my best i'm not the subject

25:42 ↗ matter expert on this i know like what

25:43 ↗ it involved though was like creating

25:44 ↗ kind of like a

25:46 ↗ like an oversight organization so to

25:48 ↗ speak right like with producers and and

25:50 ↗ i think collect collecting collection

25:52 ↗ companies and haulers etc uh to kind of

25:54 ↗ oversee how a program like this could be

25:56 ↗ implemented um

25:59 ↗ you know so it's uh

26:01 ↗ yeah it would involve like

26:03 ↗ you know

26:04 ↗ uh

26:05 ↗ asking the producers to pay for for for

26:08 ↗ this program and pay for the oversight

26:10 ↗ board to make sure that they're hitting

26:11 ↗ the recycling targets um and the way

26:13 ↗ they hit the recycling targets is again

26:15 ↗ through like

26:16 ↗ um changing what their packaging is made

26:18 ↗ out of so if it's currently not

26:20 ↗ recyclable like moving to something that

26:21 ↗ is recyclable um and then doing more in

26:24 ↗ the communication and education space i

26:26 ↗ think to to get consumers to know you

26:29 ↗ know which is the right bin to put that

26:31 ↗ packaging or not so

26:33 ↗ um and i think it's modeled off of like

26:35 ↗ it's very similar to like the california

26:37 ↗ bill i think a bill in maine that also

26:39 ↗ passed as well

26:41 ↗ but i can get back to you with some more

26:43 ↗ information i can talk to the our epr

26:45 ↗ guy and send you some more info

26:54 ↗ okay uh and then the last space is

26:56 ↗ around community so um

26:58 ↗ we've been meeting with a community

26:59 ↗ panel of uh 10 frontline members in the

27:01 ↗ community um to really help us identify

27:04 ↗ you know what are their priorities and

27:05 ↗ attitudes around the program and like

27:07 ↗ where should we focus on next um

27:10 ↗ another thing we've been doing or we're

27:11 ↗ going to implement next year is a city

27:13 ↗ grant proposal so this is different from

27:14 ↗ that replace circular grant

27:17 ↗ program i just mentioned this is a

27:18 ↗ separate pot of money it's just for

27:19 ↗ cities um and it's really to help cities

27:22 ↗ you know further bolster their waste

27:23 ↗ prevention and recycling efforts and

27:25 ↗ then the city county collaboration so

27:27 ↗ this is really a resurrection of

27:29 ↗ something we had free pandemic uh it's

27:31 ↗ really us meeting with city recycling

27:33 ↗ coordinators and trying to get on the

27:35 ↗ same page you know standardizing

27:36 ↗ messaging around waste prevention and

27:38 ↗ recycling and again kind of talking

27:39 ↗ through some some new actions we can

27:41 ↗ implement there

27:49 ↗ and this is just kind of a summation of

27:51 ↗ a lot of those numbers that were on the

27:52 ↗ slides you can see this is what we

27:54 ↗ estimate the impacts to be um

27:56 ↗ it's a pretty big diversion right that's

27:58 ↗ 400 000 400 000 tons being diverted from

28:01 ↗ the landfill

28:02 ↗ uh when you convert that to the

28:03 ↗ greenhouse gas reductions uh you know

28:05 ↗ 200 to 300 000 tons and metric tons of

28:08 ↗ co2 equivalent annually you know i did

28:11 ↗ one of those calculator things and that

28:12 ↗ 300 000 is the equivalent of reducing

28:15 ↗ emissions from a car driving

28:17 ↗ 744 million miles so it's a lot uh you

28:20 ↗ know for successful in um

28:23 ↗ diverting and preventing this waste

28:24 ↗ there are some things to consider though

28:26 ↗ right so it takes money to implement

28:27 ↗ these actions right and so

28:29 ↗ as we're implementing new capital

28:31 ↗ projects or you know adding staff to do

28:32 ↗ this uh you know rates will likely

28:35 ↗ increase in order to to increase the

28:37 ↗ diversion uh behavior change right uh i

28:40 ↗ think someone mentioned this earlier

28:41 ↗ right it's it's about having people put

28:43 ↗ the right thing in the right bucket

28:45 ↗ right uh instead of just throwing

28:47 ↗ everything in the trash so behavior

28:48 ↗ change is definitely needed again on the

28:50 ↗ flip side though this is a a job

28:52 ↗ generator right as i mentioned earlier

28:54 ↗ we need people to process this stuff we

28:56 ↗ need people to pick it up uh we need

28:58 ↗ people to build capital facilities right

29:01 ↗ so things like that so

29:02 ↗ uh you know there's a lot of a lot of um

29:06 ↗ great benefits to it and just a few

29:07 ↗ things to consider as well

29:15 ↗ i think except one more slide so this is

29:17 ↗ just kind of bringing it back to that

29:18 ↗ survey that we talked about

29:20 ↗ um so this just shows the level of

29:22 ↗ support for a lot of those things that i

29:24 ↗ just mentioned

29:25 ↗ um right i talked about mixed ways

29:26 ↗ processing epr extended produce

29:28 ↗ responsibility uh the state organics all

29:31 ↗ that stuff and so you can see the lowest

29:32 ↗ one of these had a still had a 75

29:34 ↗ percent support rate uh based on our

29:36 ↗ survey so um

29:38 ↗ you know again i think it's just a good

29:40 ↗ touch point that you know residents

29:41 ↗ really care about the environment they

29:42 ↗ care about uh waste prevention and

29:45 ↗ recycling and it kind of shows up

29:46 ↗ through the survey results so

29:49 ↗ i think that's it for me and yeah happy

29:52 ↗ to answer any any further questions

29:56 ↗ thank you john um we have a couple

29:58 ↗ questions or a few questions starting

30:01 ↗ with nancy

30:02 ↗ i just have a quick question i think uh

30:04 ↗ one of the things that i've noticed in

30:06 ↗ the recycling program is there's a lot

30:08 ↗ of new products that have come out more

30:10 ↗ recently and i don't know where what

30:12 ↗ bennett goes in specifically and i think

30:14 ↗ there needs to be more education for

30:16 ↗ example i'll just give you my favorite

30:17 ↗ example what do you do with the amazon

30:19 ↗ bags that come to your house every day

30:21 ↗ are they recyclable are they garbage or

30:24 ↗ what and i think that kind of education

30:26 ↗ it's not very clear and there's a lot of

30:28 ↗ those bags out there so that's just one

30:30 ↗ example

30:31 ↗ for sure

30:34 ↗ nancy yeah starbucks cup what do you do

30:35 ↗ with the starbucks cup right that's the

30:37 ↗ uh i don't know the answer i i want to i

30:39 ↗ want to know the answer to that one so

30:40 ↗ you know

30:42 ↗ oh yes tom anderson here uh to help me

30:45 ↗ understand jurisdiction now you spoke a

30:47 ↗ number of times about the

30:49 ↗ collaboration between city and county

30:51 ↗ but so is it not the case that the

30:54 ↗ county has no jurisdiction in

30:56 ↗ incorporated cities and so

30:59 ↗ if you put together a program like this

31:01 ↗ it would have

31:02 ↗ no application to those areas unless you

31:06 ↗ get buy-in from the city is that correct

31:09 ↗ in many cases yeah it'll take it'll take

31:12 ↗ effort at the city state and county

31:14 ↗ level and even like consumer and

31:16 ↗ business level to make a lot of these

31:17 ↗ actions happen for sure

31:20 ↗ okay thank you

31:22 ↗ tom rishi

31:24 ↗ yeah uh hey john i just had a question

31:26 ↗ about whether there have been any like

31:28 ↗ initiatives or considerations as to um

31:30 ↗ particularly particularly bringing in

31:32 ↗ the replace program to schools uh

31:35 ↗ perhaps through the green schools

31:37 ↗ program because i know

31:38 ↗ still after the pandemic we don't have

31:40 ↗ any compost collection so all of our

31:42 ↗ food pretty much goes into garbage uh

31:46 ↗ and so that's a huge waste generator

31:47 ↗ right there and it's like a hub just

31:50 ↗ generating food waste because that's

31:51 ↗ where we all eat food every day during

31:52 ↗ school in the cafeteria so i'm wondering

31:54 ↗ if there's any reflux programs there

31:58 ↗ uh i mean we've we've touched on it you

31:59 ↗ know the the green schools program is in

32:01 ↗ our recycling section and they're

32:03 ↗ they're big players on the replus team

32:05 ↗ as well so i know there's coordination

32:06 ↗ there um

32:08 ↗ again the focus was kind of more on new

32:10 ↗ actions but yeah i definitely think we

32:11 ↗ want to like you know loop back in with

32:13 ↗ the green schools program and like how

32:14 ↗ do we sort of yeah weave in replace

32:16 ↗ language in there and maybe like what

32:18 ↗ are some new kind of messaging or

32:19 ↗ curriculums for that thing as well but

32:21 ↗ i'd say right now you know just kind of

32:23 ↗ capacity and resource constraints it's

32:25 ↗ been more focused on like what are these

32:26 ↗ new things such as like epr or uh

32:28 ↗ implementing the statewide organic spill

32:30 ↗ things like that so um but yeah i mean

32:33 ↗ that's a that's a good point to make and

32:34 ↗ i'll bring it back to the recycling

32:36 ↗ group so

32:39 ↗ anything

32:40 ↗ else yeah

32:42 ↗ right and you were up next

32:45 ↗ hey john yeah it sounds like a great

32:47 ↗ program

32:48 ↗ and um

32:50 ↗ looking forward to

32:52 ↗ helping it be a success

32:54 ↗ um

32:55 ↗ so one of the things right now that i

32:57 ↗ think is a concern with a lot of um

33:02 ↗ folks who pick up the garbage is the

33:03 ↗ wish cycling

33:05 ↗ and

33:06 ↗ i

33:07 ↗ i imagine that plastic is like the worst

33:09 ↗ thing plastic seems really confusing um

33:13 ↗ because i think

33:15 ↗ in some cases it's just like number one

33:16 ↗ and number two

33:18 ↗ is recyclable and then a lot of them are

33:20 ↗ like fives and sevens

33:22 ↗ so i like the idea of bringing it all

33:25 ↗ together so everybody

33:28 ↗ is on the same page

33:29 ↗ um

33:31 ↗ so

33:32 ↗ i imagine you're thinking about that

33:34 ↗ right about plastic

33:36 ↗ yeah we have a something called the

33:38 ↗ recycle right consortium uh so it's made

33:41 ↗ up of communication staff i think

33:43 ↗ seattle's bellevue and a couple other

33:45 ↗ cities and so that's like our kind of

33:48 ↗ our communication marketing messaging

33:50 ↗ arm

33:51 ↗ i know one of the things that came out

33:52 ↗ of that group

33:53 ↗ oh man i think it was three years ago

33:55 ↗ was like we should just stop collecting

33:57 ↗ plastic bags in the in the recycling bin

33:59 ↗ right like we did a whole video about

34:02 ↗ showing how it gets into the

34:04 ↗ material recovery facility and you know

34:05 ↗ they have like a bunch of spinning

34:06 ↗ things like they have to like shut

34:08 ↗ everything down to get those plastic

34:09 ↗ bags out of there so that was a big push

34:11 ↗ a couple years ago we should stop

34:12 ↗ putting it in the blue bin it doesn't

34:14 ↗ belong there you know the best thing is

34:16 ↗ to take it back to like you know a

34:17 ↗ target or qfc uh now there's ridwell

34:20 ↗ right ridwell takes plastic bags as well

34:22 ↗ and if you can't do any of that then

34:23 ↗ like it's better to just put it in the

34:25 ↗ trash can instead of kind of

34:27 ↗ slowing things down on the recycling

34:29 ↗ side or even contaminating a lot of

34:30 ↗ those streams but um that is where i

34:33 ↗ think that extended producer

34:34 ↗ responsibility comes into play quite a

34:36 ↗ bit right because the focus is around

34:38 ↗ plastic and paper packaging

34:40 ↗ and so the hope is that like that

34:42 ↗ oversight group and getting those

34:44 ↗ producers on board will really mitigate

34:46 ↗ uh won the use of plastic in general

34:48 ↗ right but two it's like if it is used

34:50 ↗ yeah here's the right place to take it

34:51 ↗ back to or which bin to put it in so

34:55 ↗ cool

34:56 ↗ great project

34:59 ↗ john um

35:01 ↗ if you like looking at and i guess this

35:03 ↗ doesn't necessarily have to be specific

35:04 ↗ to issaquah but i'm just curious like

35:07 ↗ you've told us about the program but

35:08 ↗ like what what's from the city what from

35:11 ↗ this board what from citizens like what

35:14 ↗ are like those things the wish list or

35:16 ↗ what you're really looking for

35:18 ↗ um buy into the the general kind of

35:21 ↗ ethos or just curious of like the

35:23 ↗ specific items that you're looking at

35:24 ↗ saying these are important things that

35:26 ↗ you should be looking at if you want to

35:27 ↗ advocate for this program

35:30 ↗ yes i think one of the the first things

35:31 ↗ we're looking for is uh we have what's

35:33 ↗ called the replus pledge out there we've

35:35 ↗ been working with our advisory

35:36 ↗ committees and cities on you know it's

35:38 ↗ it'd be similar to like the key the k4c

35:41 ↗ commitment right so we're trying to get

35:42 ↗ that regional um commitment to the

35:45 ↗ program right to the goal and everything

35:47 ↗ as mentioned earlier right it takes city

35:49 ↗ state county kind of a

35:51 ↗ regional effort to do this so that's

35:53 ↗ kind of the first thing is we want to go

35:54 ↗ out to cities and

35:56 ↗ secure some of those pledges and then i

35:58 ↗ think after that yeah it's really a

35:59 ↗ conversation about like

36:01 ↗ you know

36:02 ↗ what what more support can we provide

36:04 ↗ like i know we've kind of talked about

36:06 ↗ is there specific like contract language

36:09 ↗ that like cities should include in their

36:11 ↗ contracts with haulers right to increase

36:13 ↗ uh recycling right i mentioned earlier

36:16 ↗ there was big support around harmonized

36:18 ↗ recycling lists right so again so

36:20 ↗ you know uh recycling that

36:23 ↗ gas can is the same everywhere right

36:25 ↗ instead of like it's different in one

36:27 ↗ city versus another so i think it's like

36:29 ↗ trying to get cities to to kind of

36:30 ↗ coalesce around that harmonized

36:32 ↗ recycling list that way there is less

36:34 ↗ confusion um

36:36 ↗ you know i think part of it is uh when

36:38 ↗ we implement the statewide organic spill

36:40 ↗ again we'll have to go into businesses

36:42 ↗ and ask them to start behavior change

36:44 ↗ right they need to start you know

36:45 ↗ bringing in they need to sign up for

36:46 ↗ that food collection sir food waste

36:48 ↗ collection service they need to set

36:49 ↗ aside you know space to have that extra

36:51 ↗ bin they need to have signs up and stuff

36:53 ↗ so um there will

36:54 ↗ require technical assistance and we're

36:56 ↗ going to provide some of that as well

36:57 ↗ but you know if we can get cities to

36:58 ↗ also help out uh with the businesses in

37:01 ↗ the jurisdiction i think that would be a

37:02 ↗ big help as well so yeah this is

37:04 ↗ definitely broad reaching i think that

37:06 ↗ city county collaboration is another

37:07 ↗ area right if you ever represented on

37:09 ↗ there again it's kind of weighing in on

37:11 ↗ sort of what is the standard uh unified

37:13 ↗ approach we can take on on some of these

37:14 ↗ actions too so

37:17 ↗ okay

37:18 ↗ and on that same note

37:20 ↗ are there specific areas that like as

37:22 ↗ you guys look down the list of what you

37:24 ↗ would want or need from cities to

37:26 ↗ participate in this pledge like are

37:28 ↗ there

37:29 ↗ are there areas that you're aware of

37:31 ↗ that issaquah is is not kind of like you

37:34 ↗ have this slide of where the county's

37:35 ↗ performing well where it's not

37:36 ↗ performing as well what's that slide for

37:39 ↗ issaquah

37:40 ↗ hmm

37:41 ↗ that's a good question um

37:45 ↗ i'm not sure i have the answer i guess

37:46 ↗ i'm not sure i want to provide an answer

37:48 ↗ without knowing more about about how

37:50 ↗ your system is doing uh on some of those

37:52 ↗ things but um you know cities have a lot

37:55 ↗ of control over again those like kind of

37:57 ↗ hauling contracts right um and how those

38:00 ↗ are set up and sort of what is

38:01 ↗ designated as recyclables so um

38:04 ↗ it might be good to kind of take a look

38:06 ↗ at what what's in what's in your guys's

38:07 ↗ list compared to everybody else's um

38:10 ↗ seeing how far off we are some things

38:12 ↗ there so

38:13 ↗ yeah cause i mean i do think one area

38:15 ↗ that at least for this board it might be

38:16 ↗ different your audience might be

38:18 ↗ different if you're talking to different

38:19 ↗ to staff or

38:21 ↗ i would personally be curious of that to

38:23 ↗ see that list of like where are where do

38:25 ↗ we stand what are those opportunities

38:27 ↗ because i think

38:28 ↗ that is one of the great benefits of

38:30 ↗ that from sitting in your seat you have

38:32 ↗ probably a better look as to what other

38:35 ↗ cities are doing and and probably what's

38:37 ↗ going on nationally that that we might

38:39 ↗ not and so i do think that

38:42 ↗ really helpful to understand um

38:44 ↗ just what what what we should be

38:46 ↗ thinking about or what we might consider

38:48 ↗ um as as priorities for

38:50 ↗ everything that we're doing on our own

38:51 ↗ internal planning and

38:54 ↗ so yeah that's a great question yeah

38:56 ↗ i'll bring that back to our recycling

38:57 ↗ folks and i think yeah we would want to

38:59 ↗ coordinate with your recycling folks too

39:00 ↗ just to make sure we're all on the same

39:02 ↗ page there too

39:04 ↗ cool thank you that was everything i had

39:07 ↗ stacy all right i realized i don't have

39:08 ↗ a name card um

39:10 ↗ just uh one

39:12 ↗ comment and then a question for the

39:13 ↗ board um something we've noticed through

39:16 ↗ the lead for cities program where we've

39:17 ↗ been gathering a lot of data is that our

39:19 ↗ diversion rates are slipping not in a

39:22 ↗ good direction so essentially more

39:26 ↗ um

39:27 ↗ waste is going its waste as opposed to

39:29 ↗ recycling and so i think that's

39:30 ↗ something that we'll be working on with

39:32 ↗ fercology with their new um zero waste

39:36 ↗ employee that will work directly with us

39:38 ↗ upon under the new contract

39:40 ↗ um and then the question i had uh for

39:43 ↗ the group as john mentioned this pledge

39:46 ↗ um wondering if the environmental board

39:48 ↗ wants me to bring that back for

39:50 ↗ consideration discussion at a future

39:52 ↗ meeting and we can have a conversation

39:54 ↗ whether that's something that should go

39:56 ↗ before council

39:59 ↗ thank you

40:00 ↗ very much nice thumbs up

40:02 ↗ okay all right john i'll coordinate with

40:04 ↗ you and your team about how we could

40:06 ↗ bring that pledge back to this board for

40:09 ↗ consideration discussion and

40:10 ↗ recommendations

40:12 ↗ cool

40:16 ↗ all right any other questions

40:19 ↗ i did see a couple more slides at the

40:21 ↗ end of this is that

40:22 ↗ topics that

40:24 ↗ someone else will be covering or

40:26 ↗ in this chat

40:28 ↗ yeah we have like one master slide deck

40:30 ↗ and so rather than have like 15

40:32 ↗ different versions we sort of turn turn

40:34 ↗ certain slides on and off depending on

40:35 ↗ the

40:36 ↗ on the audience so um

40:38 ↗ but yeah

40:40 ↗ um anyone else

40:42 ↗ yeah well

40:44 ↗ just have one quick one

40:45 ↗ it's not a question but as you're

40:47 ↗ looking at um potentially this is nancy

40:49 ↗ davidson

40:51 ↗ um doing commercial business recycling

40:53 ↗ particularly for food waste those of us

40:55 ↗ in east king county have some large

40:58 ↗ animals that come through our areas and

40:59 ↗ so that's one of the things you're going

41:00 ↗ to want to be thinking about is the bear

41:02 ↗ population and

41:04 ↗ the raccoons uh it'll affect businesses

41:07 ↗ it affects residents but it will then go

41:09 ↗ to the business community so you're

41:11 ↗ gonna have to we're gonna have to think

41:12 ↗ long and hard about how this will impact

41:14 ↗ businesses along the way as the bears

41:16 ↗ move into a different area

41:23 ↗ i might just say one more thing if it's

41:25 ↗ okay so pcc used to have a digester and

41:28 ↗ they would put everything into it i

41:30 ↗ don't know

41:31 ↗ if they

41:32 ↗ i don't know what happens with the meat

41:34 ↗ but that's just a thought and then they

41:36 ↗ would turn it into fertilizer and sell

41:38 ↗ the fertilizer

41:41 ↗ so yeah one of the the really jargony

41:43 ↗ term that non what do we call it

41:44 ↗ non-residential food waste recycling

41:46 ↗ that was one of the things we're looking

41:47 ↗ at is um

41:49 ↗ there's something called co-digestion

41:50 ↗ where you can take all the food waste

41:51 ↗ you kind of

41:52 ↗ uh we call you turn into a milkshake

41:54 ↗ basically and then you you kind of pump

41:56 ↗ that milkshake into a wastewater

41:57 ↗ treatment uh plant and it kind of turbo

41:59 ↗ charges the gas production there so

42:00 ↗ that's

42:01 ↗ that's definitely one of the things

42:02 ↗ we're analyzing a lot further so

42:08 ↗ is that used as fertilizer then

42:11 ↗ uh so it creates energy and then it's

42:14 ↗ because it's through the wastewater

42:15 ↗ treatment process i think it uh

42:18 ↗ it increases their i want to say

42:19 ↗ increases their bio solids as well so

42:21 ↗ that is you know used as land

42:22 ↗ application uh i think in eastern

42:24 ↗ washington

42:29 ↗ all right

42:30 ↗ thank you john i'm just going to

42:31 ↗ summarize everything that we everything

42:33 ↗ that i at least captured in my notes um

42:37 ↗ please if there's anything that i missed

42:39 ↗ uh please let me know

42:41 ↗ some of the feedback um was around

42:44 ↗ questions about getting

42:45 ↗ this program into schools and how they

42:47 ↗ might better

42:48 ↗ get incorporated with the green schools

42:50 ↗ program um curious about education and

42:54 ↗ more outreach on basically letting

42:56 ↗ people know what is and is not

42:58 ↗ recyclable and how

43:00 ↗ uh

43:01 ↗ how what people can do to

43:03 ↗ not ruin their waste

43:05 ↗ or recyclables um with things like

43:07 ↗ plastic bags

43:09 ↗ um

43:10 ↗ there was interest um in just the

43:14 ↗ general specific actions that

43:17 ↗ city-based aquat could take and and how

43:19 ↗ biscuil might match up against other

43:21 ↗ cities

43:22 ↗ um

43:24 ↗ there was

43:25 ↗ the potential of bringing back the

43:26 ↗ pledge as that was one of the items that

43:29 ↗ um the king county team

43:31 ↗ uh mentioned as a as a as an action that

43:34 ↗ the city or this board

43:36 ↗ might be able to do to help support what

43:38 ↗ they're working on

43:41 ↗ let's see and then there was a

43:44 ↗ concern or just

43:46 ↗ interest in making sure that wildlife

43:48 ↗ was being considered

43:50 ↗ during the business implementation

43:51 ↗ portion

43:53 ↗ of the organics program so

43:55 ↗ uh any items that

43:58 ↗ i missed in that

44:01 ↗ just the ep are getting more information

44:03 ↗ on epr i'm not sure if you can join that

44:04 ↗ and i can pass that along to the board

44:08 ↗ especially ahead of the legislative

44:09 ↗ session

44:10 ↗ [Music]

44:14 ↗ great well appreciate uh appreciate the

44:16 ↗ team joining uh anything else that your

44:19 ↗ team needs from us

44:22 ↗ uh i think i talked a lot so i'm done

44:31 ↗ nice really appreciate your time yeah

44:33 ↗ that's a lot of information to digest

44:34 ↗ and i really appreciate the questions

44:35 ↗ too it shows you guys are really uh

44:37 ↗ interested in this topic too so really

44:39 ↗ appreciate it

44:42 ↗ all right well thanks thanks to you um i

44:45 ↗ think with that we

44:47 ↗ are ready to move on to our next topic

44:49 ↗ um the natural environment checklist

44:51 ↗ presented by christian getz

44:53 ↗ and doug yormick

44:56 ↗ you too

44:57 ↗ can take it away

44:58 ↗ and then i'll ask the same question just

45:00 ↗ how you would like to handle questions

45:02 ↗ as we go through this

45:05 ↗ so if you can provide

45:06 ↗ that feedback so we know going in not be

45:09 ↗ helpful

45:10 ↗ absolutely

45:12 ↗ all right

45:14 ↗ but be here tonight

45:16 ↗ in person welcome

45:19 ↗ in my third week here with the city so

45:21 ↗ my name is christian getz i'm the new

45:22 ↗ planning manager with the

45:24 ↗ cpd

45:25 ↗ department uh with me tonight uh online

45:28 ↗ is doug dormick a highly experienced

45:30 ↗ planner done a lot of environmental

45:31 ↗ projects uh secret review streaming

45:34 ↗ wetland shoreline stuff so

45:36 ↗ he's he's there to help me out if i if i

45:38 ↗ stray or if there's questions that are a

45:40 ↗ little more processed or

45:42 ↗ historically detailed that i'm unable to

45:45 ↗ answer

45:46 ↗ uh

45:47 ↗ so tonight yeah we're we're here to look

45:49 ↗ at

45:50 ↗ um a couple things project overviews the

45:53 ↗ the last ones that we've had since the

45:55 ↗ last time the group met this is our

45:57 ↗ annual review

45:59 ↗ uh so i'm going to run through those

46:00 ↗ really quickly uh pretty high level

46:03 ↗ and then get into a policy discussion so

46:05 ↗ a discussion where we're looking for

46:07 ↗ input from the board on

46:10 ↗ what your thoughts are on the checklist

46:12 ↗ if it's if it's operating the way in

46:14 ↗ which you thought

46:16 ↗ are there questions that we should be

46:17 ↗ asking

46:19 ↗ information we should be seeking at that

46:21 ↗ initial stage

46:24 ↗ so

46:25 ↗ yeah

46:26 ↗ for those that are new the checklist is

46:29 ↗ uh it's completed at the initial stages

46:31 ↗ of the project so it's very preliminary

46:33 ↗ in its form it's it's completed by the

46:35 ↗ reviewing planner and that's that review

46:38 ↗ and the completion of that is based on

46:41 ↗ the information proposed by the

46:43 ↗ applicants materials that they provide

46:45 ↗ information that the city may already

46:47 ↗ have

46:48 ↗ on a subject property

46:51 ↗ and

46:53 ↗ with many projects taking multiple years

46:55 ↗ to complete there could be quite a gap

46:57 ↗ between that initial preliminary

46:59 ↗ checklist

47:00 ↗ completion and

47:02 ↗ going through the entire review process

47:04 ↗ the entire site visit peer review of

47:07 ↗ streams wetlands and the like before it

47:10 ↗ wraps up

47:11 ↗ which can be many many years

47:16 ↗ i just have a quick question

47:18 ↗ since title 18 is being updated

47:20 ↗ and it's going to change many of the

47:23 ↗ rules for these projects

47:25 ↗ are you going to start creating a box

47:27 ↗ that says are you under the old rules

47:29 ↗ the old title 18 and you now have to

47:32 ↗ apply to the new title 18 i'm just

47:33 ↗ asking the question because the rules

47:35 ↗ are challenging and it adds to the

47:38 ↗ complexity of this discussion quite a

47:40 ↗ bit where there's so much that's going

47:42 ↗ to be happening so there's there's

47:44 ↗ that stephen's going to be much more

47:46 ↗ familiar with and doug's going to be

47:48 ↗ much more familiar with

47:50 ↗ the way we might want to be asking

47:52 ↗ questions in the future we'll be looking

47:54 ↗ at investing in projects that are under

47:56 ↗ the current codes they'll follow those

47:59 ↗ that that checklist that is that is

48:01 ↗ established uh and those that are under

48:04 ↗ the new code when it's in effect we'll

48:06 ↗ follow the

48:07 ↗ new updated data checklist if it changes

48:11 ↗ time

48:12 ↗ so looking for that insight from you

48:14 ↗ tonight

48:15 ↗ in a discussion

48:17 ↗ and

48:18 ↗ i've got about 12 slides really quickly

48:20 ↗ just to kind of give everybody an

48:22 ↗ understanding of where we are with these

48:24 ↗ projects uh the first one is avalon bay

48:28 ↗ which is a redevelopment of a four acre

48:29 ↗ parcel in central isoqua

48:32 ↗ they initially proposed a seven story

48:35 ↗ mixed-use building

48:37 ↗ um i believe the initial proposal had

48:39 ↗ underground parking

48:41 ↗ in a flood plain it's not necessarily

48:43 ↗ the greatest idea they come back and

48:44 ↗ change that a bit uh but it is with

48:46 ↗ on-site parking

48:48 ↗ there are critical areas on-site

48:50 ↗ immediately off-site and we're still

48:52 ↗ working through that that process so

48:53 ↗ they're working towards

48:55 ↗ completion of their their land use

48:57 ↗ permitting and then

48:59 ↗ submitting

49:01 ↗ their plan is to be submitting prior to

49:04 ↗ the new title 18 update to

49:07 ↗ the current code

49:09 ↗ but right at this point we did not have

49:12 ↗ construction permits

49:14 ↗ for this project it is still within the

49:16 ↗ land use

49:18 ↗ review are they considered best of them

49:21 ↗ they will not be considered vested

49:23 ↗ unless they have a

49:24 ↗ building permit

49:25 ↗ that's where you get invested in the

49:27 ↗ city in the building building

49:42 ↗ looks like it's also is it like a flood

49:44 ↗ or is it those are

49:47 ↗ slopes like

49:50 ↗ you know those are wet ones those

49:53 ↗ slopes

49:58 ↗ yes

49:59 ↗ is the footprint of um the new

50:01 ↗ seven-story building going to be larger

50:04 ↗ than the business that is going to be

50:06 ↗ demolished

50:07 ↗ it's larger than the footprint of the

50:09 ↗ current building

50:11 ↗ but that

50:12 ↗ where that can be is still being worked

50:13 ↗ out with

50:16 ↗ like buffers through block pathways

50:20 ↗ all of those

50:21 ↗ those aspects of the situation

50:24 ↗ that have to be incorporated on

50:28 ↗ the regulatory side

50:29 ↗ outside of just critical area review

50:33 ↗ thank you yeah

50:35 ↗ uh the next project uh this one is doug

50:38 ↗ so he can type in if he's got any any

50:41 ↗ insight on it the highla pump station

50:43 ↗ which is a storm water pump station

50:44 ↗ that's

50:45 ↗ proposed as a 24 inch diameter pipeline

50:48 ↗ runs about 3 000 linear feet from

50:51 ↗ the rally property out to lake sammamish

50:54 ↗ it

50:55 ↗ is

50:57 ↗ it's a direct discharge to lake

50:59 ↗ washington through through a wetland uh

51:01 ↗ it's a type one wetland that that's uh

51:04 ↗ it's running out through that's within

51:06 ↗ the shoreline management area so it is

51:08 ↗ subject to the shoreline master program

51:10 ↗ and the state codes

51:12 ↗ which will then require a shoreline

51:14 ↗ variance so

51:16 ↗ the

51:16 ↗ highest bar to meet

51:18 ↗ for that activity to occur

51:20 ↗ um and we are still waiting on

51:23 ↗ construction permits to be

51:26 ↗ submitted for this one so still in

51:29 ↗ land use review

51:31 ↗ at this point

51:33 ↗ and working through that with

51:36 ↗ stormwater and

51:38 ↗ critical area review

51:41 ↗ consultants

51:45 ↗ it says that this one's going to be

51:47 ↗ owned by the city after completion it

51:49 ↗ will be owned by the city it will be

51:51 ↗ taken over by the city so the city

51:53 ↗ is invested in making sure what's built

51:56 ↗ will will operate can be operated by

52:00 ↗ public works

52:02 ↗ but it's my stuff

52:08 ↗ uh the next one is the edwards flat it's

52:10 ↗ a 10 lots a short flat proposing

52:13 ↗ cluster housing so pushing that cluster

52:16 ↗ housing to the to the east which would

52:18 ↗ be the right side of the screen

52:20 ↗ a class two stream coal mine hazard and

52:23 ↗ steep slopes on this site

52:25 ↗ uh relatively encumbered so you can see

52:27 ↗ where they're they're proposing that to

52:29 ↗ be placed at this time only a

52:32 ↗ preliminary

52:33 ↗ plot is in uh they will best once a

52:36 ↗ final plan is approved so they're still

52:40 ↗ you know to wrap up a few more a few

52:43 ↗ more parts

52:44 ↗ but they're considering the

52:46 ↗ existing buffers of the stream

52:50 ↗ containing that as a single family

52:52 ↗ development

52:56 ↗ the squash school district stream bank

52:59 ↗ i took a walk the other day and i found

53:01 ↗ this one a pretty cool little project um

53:04 ↗ with a lot of large woody debris

53:06 ↗ installed

53:07 ↗ uh in central sequoia

53:09 ↗ and so it is the only one that is in

53:11 ↗ construction where it is in process they

53:13 ↗ they met the the work window to be in

53:15 ↗ stream

53:16 ↗ uh the end of last month

53:18 ↗ very very close to the end of that that

53:21 ↗ uh ability

53:22 ↗ um

53:23 ↗ and they'll be wrapping that up

53:25 ↗ with

53:26 ↗ all the agencies

53:28 ↗ and and

53:30 ↗ our inspection group to make sure that

53:32 ↗ it's

53:34 ↗ planted and vegetated

53:36 ↗ after after the logs have been set here

53:40 ↗ we saw some of the woody debris on the

53:41 ↗ way here

53:43 ↗ yes they had someone off the side of the

53:44 ↗ uh

53:46 ↗ i don't know it looked like what do you

53:48 ↗ agree with yeah well it was what do you

53:50 ↗ agree with it's going in here i don't

53:51 ↗ know

53:53 ↗ they found extra

53:54 ↗ they bought extra

53:56 ↗ um

53:58 ↗ and the last one on the list uh the

54:00 ↗ milano apartments this one is still in

54:02 ↗ land use review waiting on construction

54:04 ↗ permits uh seven story under four unit

54:06 ↗ apartments

54:08 ↗ uh class two stream to the

54:11 ↗ east southeast

54:12 ↗ and a category 3 wetland with steve

54:14 ↗ slopes

54:16 ↗ so they're they're again looking to

54:19 ↗ complete their land use review and come

54:21 ↗ in for their construction permits and

54:22 ↗ have complete applications so they can

54:24 ↗ invest under their current regulations

54:27 ↗ and all of these have gone through

54:29 ↗ their neighborhood meetings completed

54:30 ↗ their

54:31 ↗ their preliminary

54:33 ↗ or i keep calling it a preliminary

54:35 ↗ environmental checklist at the beginning

54:37 ↗ of the project

54:40 ↗ so those those are the

54:43 ↗ the examples

54:45 ↗ um or the projects that we've had so

54:48 ↗ what we're seeking

54:49 ↗ is kind of that high level

54:51 ↗ policy review

54:53 ↗ and input on the functionality of the

54:55 ↗ checklist and how it relates to the

54:57 ↗ city's environmental goals what this

54:59 ↗ group is seeking to

55:03 ↗ follow

55:04 ↗ and

55:05 ↗ which which can be a little tricky since

55:06 ↗ title 18 is in flux and it is in process

55:09 ↗ um

55:11 ↗ so

55:12 ↗ like what i think connie had said

55:16 ↗ what are some measurables what are

55:18 ↗ things that

55:19 ↗ the board would want to see

55:21 ↗ as a result and that's kind of when

55:24 ↗ projects are completed

55:26 ↗ and how to how to measure that so just

55:29 ↗ want to open it up

55:33 ↗ uh a discussion

55:37 ↗ well i have a question while

55:39 ↗ maybe others gather their questions um

55:41 ↗ [Music]

55:42 ↗ so and you even use the word preliminary

55:45 ↗ like i would

55:47 ↗ like so they we do this preliminary

55:50 ↗ checklist

55:51 ↗ is that

55:52 ↗ updated throughout the life of a project

55:54 ↗ is the end

55:56 ↗ checklist that would come out of a given

55:58 ↗ project what was it was at the start or

56:01 ↗ what it was at the end like in terms of

56:03 ↗ variances and other details that might

56:07 ↗ that might be included in that in that

56:09 ↗ checklist but yeah i'll i'll start in

56:12 ↗ doug changmin if you want it it is a

56:14 ↗ checklist that staff will utilize to run

56:16 ↗ down through and see

56:18 ↗ what are the features on the site what

56:20 ↗ is the applicant proposing are they

56:21 ↗ proposing

56:22 ↗ um

56:24 ↗ limiting light impacts on on the

56:27 ↗ critical area

56:28 ↗ from what from what we can tell with the

56:30 ↗ plans that are proposed how they address

56:32 ↗ certain certain features on the site

56:35 ↗ um so kind of a

56:37 ↗ little literal review checklist for

56:39 ↗ staff to to follow along and make sure

56:42 ↗ that we're using it as a tool in our

56:45 ↗ initial

56:46 ↗ screening of the of the process

56:49 ↗ and then through

56:50 ↗ peer review with our consulting

56:52 ↗ biologists once we have their full

56:54 ↗ report

56:55 ↗ that

56:56 ↗ gets into the details in the end of the

56:58 ↗ weeks with

57:00 ↗ with the critical area code and

57:03 ↗ determining if it is consistent so

57:06 ↗ it is not updated in the in the future

57:10 ↗ it is a

57:11 ↗ static frozen in time from the initial

57:13 ↗ pre-neighborhood feeding

57:16 ↗ steps

57:18 ↗ doug do you want to add anything

57:23 ↗ dough and mute you

57:26 ↗ thanks stacy

57:28 ↗ um this is doug your associate

57:30 ↗ environmental planner um i don't really

57:33 ↗ have anything that i think i think

57:34 ↗ christian um

57:36 ↗ got up to correct with that

57:42 ↗ okay

57:44 ↗ thank you um

57:45 ↗ oh nancy go ahead and let's go forward

57:48 ↗ oh

57:49 ↗ man go ahead

57:50 ↗ thanks jerry

57:53 ↗ um i guess mine's more of a comet so

57:57 ↗ i love i love the new concept of going

58:00 ↗ tall

58:01 ↗ um when i first moved here in 1984 um

58:07 ↗ it was go wide

58:09 ↗ you weren't allowed to go more than like

58:10 ↗ two stories i think

58:12 ↗ to what it was um so

58:14 ↗ i like the idea of encouraging

58:17 ↗ people to build up

58:19 ↗ um

58:20 ↗ but um as far as

58:22 ↗ the wetlands um

58:25 ↗ i just think we need to remember to take

58:27 ↗ climate change into mind as

58:30 ↗ as these new buildings go in um because

58:33 ↗ there's gonna of course i think we all

58:35 ↗ know there's going to be more flooding

58:37 ↗ happening

58:38 ↗ so the 100-year floods could happen a

58:40 ↗ lot

58:42 ↗ more often even more often than they do

58:44 ↗ now

58:46 ↗ when i first moved here

58:48 ↗ in the air in the 80s there were a ton

58:50 ↗ of hundred year floods happening

58:53 ↗ and um

58:54 ↗ the water was managed

58:57 ↗ and so then

58:59 ↗ you know bombardiers in the antique mall

59:01 ↗ quit flooding for a while

59:03 ↗ but

59:05 ↗ that could change again

59:07 ↗ so just some thoughts

59:12 ↗ sam nancy

59:15 ↗ so christian you weren't here when we've

59:17 ↗ discussed this before so

59:19 ↗ but i'm trying to think back to

59:22 ↗ what our responsibilities are under when

59:25 ↗ the board was set and i i didn't think i

59:27 ↗ don't have a computer in front of me but

59:28 ↗ i think we were trying to come up with a

59:30 ↗ scoreboard of how we're doing

59:32 ↗ environmentally um that we could report

59:34 ↗ annually to like the council of the

59:36 ↗ community

59:37 ↗ how many wetlands were impacted how many

59:40 ↗ trees significant trees were taken down

59:42 ↗ how the steep slopes were being affected

59:45 ↗ um so we kind of see are we doing better

59:48 ↗ as an environmental community or are we

59:50 ↗ doing are we harming it am i making any

59:53 ↗ sense on that

59:54 ↗ and i'm not sensing we're getting there

59:56 ↗ if that

59:58 ↗ um i think we need to think about if

1:00:00 ↗ we're only doing the checklist at the

1:00:02 ↗ initial parts because during the course

1:00:04 ↗ of development the guy's moving the

1:00:06 ↗ developers probably moving the building

1:00:08 ↗ a little bit because they're getting

1:00:09 ↗ feedback about wetland impacts and stuff

1:00:11 ↗ and i think it's important for us to be

1:00:13 ↗ able to

1:00:14 ↗ to communicate to the community how are

1:00:16 ↗ we doing environmentally we received 20

1:00:19 ↗ applications this year five of which

1:00:21 ↗ were commercial developments in those

1:00:23 ↗ commercial developments um we managed to

1:00:26 ↗ meet all the buffer requirements or you

1:00:28 ↗ know some kind of report card about how

1:00:31 ↗ are we doing as a community

1:00:33 ↗ and that to me is what i see this

1:00:36 ↗ checklist helping us to do

1:00:38 ↗ the checklist is a way to accumulate

1:00:40 ↗ these projects on a common basis

1:00:43 ↗ so we can report to the community how

1:00:45 ↗ we're doing

1:00:47 ↗ and i'm not sure we're there yet

1:00:48 ↗ building and

1:00:49 ↗ potentially some metrics right there you

1:00:52 ↗ go

1:00:53 ↗ and

1:00:54 ↗ adaptive management monitoring right

1:00:57 ↗ does that help you a little bit and i

1:00:59 ↗ think that's kind of really what we were

1:01:00 ↗ thinking this was trying to get to and

1:01:03 ↗ we've had those communications with the

1:01:04 ↗ former planning manager of what we're

1:01:07 ↗ trying to get to with it and the initial

1:01:09 ↗ projects we saw there weren't

1:01:11 ↗ enough like we're seeing now of major

1:01:13 ↗ developments coming in

1:01:16 ↗ that are trying to meet some goals so i

1:01:18 ↗ think it's a great opportunity for us to

1:01:19 ↗ build those metrics and perhaps tweak

1:01:22 ↗ the checklist or process

1:01:24 ↗ so that we can report out how are we

1:01:26 ↗ doing

1:01:27 ↗ okay that's great

1:01:30 ↗ thanks nancy tom

1:01:33 ↗ oh yeah my question is kind of it

1:01:35 ↗ overlaps with what nancy was just

1:01:37 ↗ talking about you're seeking feedback on

1:01:40 ↗ this checklist in the process

1:01:42 ↗ and i'm wondering what other feedback

1:01:45 ↗ mechanisms are

1:01:46 ↗ are you looking at to determine the

1:01:49 ↗ goodness of this checklist and

1:01:51 ↗ is it is it just us it probably isn't

1:01:53 ↗ discussed but i'm just wondering what

1:01:55 ↗ what other feedback loops uh there are

1:01:58 ↗ in terms of uh

1:02:00 ↗ like continuous process improvement

1:02:02 ↗ the uh the conventional way to

1:02:06 ↗ get a feedback loop is to

1:02:09 ↗ evaluate

1:02:10 ↗ at the end of a project and use what you

1:02:13 ↗ learned in that evaluation the

1:02:15 ↗ post-project debriefing or

1:02:18 ↗ or analysis and let's let's see uh what

1:02:22 ↗ went uh right what went wrong and use

1:02:24 ↗ that as the feedback

1:02:26 ↗ mechanism to um

1:02:28 ↗ well continuously improve both a pro

1:02:31 ↗ process

1:02:32 ↗ perspective and a project uh perspective

1:02:35 ↗ uh i guess um i feel i feel just

1:02:39 ↗ i don't have enough information to look

1:02:41 ↗ at the checklist

1:02:43 ↗ and look at these examples and determine

1:02:45 ↗ whether it's working well or not because

1:02:48 ↗ i can't see the the outcome yeah too

1:02:50 ↗ early for these projects to know what

1:02:53 ↗ the outcome is

1:02:54 ↗ and is there is there some other step in

1:02:57 ↗ the process that we'll be looking at at

1:03:00 ↗ that in the future if there isn't i'd

1:03:02 ↗ suggest it should be

1:03:03 ↗ um and i'm not sure

1:03:06 ↗ how that best could be done but uh

1:03:08 ↗ i feel like i don't have enough

1:03:10 ↗ information to provide good feedback on

1:03:12 ↗ it

1:03:13 ↗ from where i'm sitting right here thank

1:03:15 ↗ you

1:03:18 ↗ thank you tom

1:03:19 ↗ um rishi

1:03:21 ↗ um yeah so i was wondering one i

1:03:23 ↗ apologize this is like common knowledge

1:03:25 ↗ but i'm wondering for the checklist

1:03:26 ↗ itself like what are the current metrics

1:03:29 ↗ are they what we see in the presentation

1:03:31 ↗ or are they also

1:03:32 ↗ about like the actual like emissions

1:03:34 ↗ related to the development of

1:03:36 ↗ uh these five projects it is

1:03:39 ↗ it

1:03:40 ↗ is a series of questions about uh

1:03:43 ↗ what's on site what are they proposing

1:03:45 ↗ so it doesn't it doesn't necessarily get

1:03:47 ↗ in the details of how number of units

1:03:49 ↗ you know square footage of structure

1:03:51 ↗ uh it's looking at

1:03:53 ↗ is there a wetland on site are there

1:03:55 ↗ steep slopes on site how are they

1:03:56 ↗ accounting for that have they provided

1:03:58 ↗ the report

1:04:00 ↗ there's a few more detailed ones are

1:04:01 ↗ they trying to avoid

1:04:03 ↗ um

1:04:05 ↗ certain certain

1:04:07 ↗ areas of the of the property

1:04:10 ↗ and

1:04:11 ↗ that's where

1:04:12 ↗ there are other questions we want to

1:04:14 ↗ look at initially

1:04:16 ↗ to then go back and say well

1:04:18 ↗ how many square feet of wetland

1:04:20 ↗ were determined on the site initially

1:04:23 ↗ how much was there at the end was any of

1:04:25 ↗ it mitigated um was it a highly

1:04:28 ↗ functioning wetland to be very generic

1:04:29 ↗ very general

1:04:30 ↗ was it a deteriorated wetland that's

1:04:33 ↗ covered in blackberries and green canary

1:04:35 ↗ grass or was it a highly functioning

1:04:36 ↗ well

1:04:38 ↗ the gain is when it's

1:04:40 ↗ a low functioning wetland that

1:04:42 ↗ development occurs

1:04:44 ↗ they observe the wetland buffers and

1:04:46 ↗ they enhance that area so it's a net

1:04:49 ↗ gain

1:04:50 ↗ for that site

1:04:53 ↗ and

1:04:55 ↗ kind of things that that could be

1:04:57 ↗ considered um especially at a high level

1:04:59 ↗ of

1:05:00 ↗ what's the condition of the wetland it

1:05:02 ↗ doesn't

1:05:03 ↗ take much more

1:05:04 ↗ to say well it's highly functioning or

1:05:06 ↗ it's a low functioning and that's a

1:05:08 ↗ checkbox then further into the review

1:05:11 ↗ staff have that information we may have

1:05:13 ↗ it up front as well

1:05:16 ↗ thought to

1:05:18 ↗ grow out okay thank you

1:05:21 ↗ don go ahead

1:05:22 ↗ yeah so nancy pretty much stole the

1:05:24 ↗ words out of my mouth i was trying to

1:05:25 ↗ articulate myself but

1:05:28 ↗ she recalled it quicker than i did but

1:05:30 ↗ yeah that was the original intent was

1:05:32 ↗ that this was supposed to be

1:05:34 ↗ a measurable process

1:05:36 ↗ so i'm going to give you a suggestion

1:05:39 ↗ is this is your preliminary checklist

1:05:41 ↗ how about as your project closes out

1:05:45 ↗ you have a closing checklist and maybe

1:05:47 ↗ it can be one in the

1:05:48 ↗ same something along the lines of have

1:05:51 ↗ you met the goals of the original intent

1:05:54 ↗ and i heard connie make a comment

1:05:56 ↗ earlier that she remembered that this

1:05:58 ↗ was supposed to be a very quick and easy

1:06:00 ↗ to read spreadsheet if you will so we

1:06:03 ↗ can see how we're doing over time so

1:06:05 ↗ consider what that would look like i

1:06:07 ↗ don't have a solution for that

1:06:09 ↗ something you have to think about for a

1:06:10 ↗ while but something you could put up

1:06:13 ↗ on a website where people can simply go

1:06:16 ↗ there and just look over the past few

1:06:18 ↗ years how have we done this

1:06:20 ↗ and potentially looking at these five

1:06:22 ↗ projects the projects before that have

1:06:24 ↗ used the

1:06:26 ↗ the checklist

1:06:27 ↗ that

1:06:28 ↗ might still be wrapping up how the field

1:06:30 ↗ i haven't looked

1:06:31 ↗ but there's the opportunity to as as

1:06:34 ↗ they wrap up

1:06:35 ↗ actually have something to

1:06:37 ↗ to come back with

1:06:39 ↗ and that

1:06:41 ↗ that tracking or that that reporting

1:06:43 ↗ grows where you might not see these five

1:06:46 ↗ projects or a few of these for

1:06:48 ↗ a couple of years once they wrap up but

1:06:50 ↗ when they do

1:06:52 ↗ if we're looking through

1:06:54 ↗ a follow-up checklist we're providing

1:06:57 ↗ something that

1:06:58 ↗ is a report card and you mentioned you

1:07:01 ↗ know just as an example of what you

1:07:02 ↗ mentioned a deteriorating wetland buffer

1:07:05 ↗ um it'd be interesting to know over time

1:07:07 ↗ okay how many acres of the deuterium

1:07:09 ↗ buffer was replaced or renewed

1:07:12 ↗ via these projects

1:07:17 ↗ building on what don's added to it i

1:07:19 ↗ mean i think it's a unique opportunity

1:07:21 ↗ with the kind of projects you just

1:07:22 ↗ presented they do have some significant

1:07:25 ↗ wetland

1:07:26 ↗ opportunities

1:07:27 ↗ or impacts

1:07:29 ↗ and speech slopes things that we're all

1:07:32 ↗ kind of concerned about in this

1:07:33 ↗ community actual stream restoration work

1:07:36 ↗ down there with the school districts

1:07:37 ↗ work so i think we finally got the

1:07:39 ↗ projects that we can start to report to

1:07:41 ↗ the community how we're doing

1:07:43 ↗ environmentally it's just how to do that

1:07:45 ↗ sure that's what they pay you the big

1:07:47 ↗ bucks for

1:07:50 ↗ yeah maybe i'll pop in now i mean

1:07:53 ↗ i do think

1:07:55 ↗ echoing a lot of what was already said i

1:07:57 ↗ think i'll put it slightly differently i

1:07:58 ↗ feel like right now the environmental

1:08:00 ↗ checklist is like demographic data

1:08:03 ↗ we're not actually getting to like the

1:08:05 ↗ outcomes from like we're taking we're

1:08:07 ↗ doing a study of like subjects we're

1:08:10 ↗ getting the demographic data up front on

1:08:11 ↗ the checklist we're not actually getting

1:08:13 ↗ the outcomes which i think for this

1:08:15 ↗ board

1:08:16 ↗ and for the policies and what we're

1:08:17 ↗ going to discuss on an ongoing basis i

1:08:19 ↗ think the outcomes in a lot of cases are

1:08:22 ↗ are just as or more important than what

1:08:24 ↗ the starting points were um so i do

1:08:26 ↗ think

1:08:27 ↗ figuring out a way to

1:08:29 ↗ get okay maybe we do still need

1:08:31 ↗ everything that's in the current

1:08:32 ↗ checklist for the demographic just the

1:08:34 ↗ basics as the starting point in this

1:08:36 ↗ process but at the end of the day i

1:08:38 ↗ think

1:08:38 ↗ um looking at title 18 we've talked

1:08:40 ↗ about a lot of different topics whether

1:08:42 ↗ it's shoreline wetland like we have all

1:08:44 ↗ these policy decisions that we're making

1:08:46 ↗ in title 18 or we will make in title 18

1:08:49 ↗ i think we should probably be measuring

1:08:51 ↗ and looking at that list of what are the

1:08:53 ↗ changes we made at title in title 18 how

1:08:55 ↗ are those changes

1:08:57 ↗ either changing how a project comes to

1:08:58 ↗ life like how is that benefiting or

1:09:01 ↗ detracting from key measures of like

1:09:03 ↗ wetlands or other

1:09:05 ↗ canned tree canopy i think we're going

1:09:06 ↗ to have a lot of things coming out of

1:09:09 ↗ like the

1:09:10 ↗ the tree can't be banks i don't know how

1:09:12 ↗ where that's at that's still in in title

1:09:14 ↗ 18

1:09:15 ↗ um but there's a lot of things in

1:09:17 ↗ wetland banking i'm curious and i think

1:09:21 ↗ what we've shared in the past before you

1:09:22 ↗ were joined is i think we're interested

1:09:24 ↗ in really understanding

1:09:26 ↗ so there's code how are people using

1:09:28 ↗ that at the end of the day and we have a

1:09:30 ↗ really interesting opportunity with

1:09:31 ↗ title 18 that i think we have focused as

1:09:34 ↗ a city on certain areas

1:09:36 ↗ so let's see how those changes are

1:09:39 ↗ actually being implemented in projects

1:09:41 ↗ going forward there's probably other

1:09:42 ↗ things that weren't changes that we

1:09:44 ↗ should still be looking at i think

1:09:45 ↗ that's where i would be interested in

1:09:47 ↗ like yeah going from that next step of

1:09:49 ↗ like demographic to outcomes and and

1:09:51 ↗ like key measurables coming out of a

1:09:54 ↗ process

1:09:55 ↗ or for a project

1:09:57 ↗ but i do think with title 18 we have a

1:09:59 ↗ really

1:10:00 ↗ unique opportunity to start measuring

1:10:02 ↗ how we did with title 18 through these

1:10:05 ↗ checklists as well so

1:10:06 ↗ that i think is going to be something

1:10:08 ↗ that we should

1:10:09 ↗ certainly probably bring back and come

1:10:11 ↗ back and discuss once title 18 is

1:10:13 ↗ finalized

1:10:14 ↗ but i do think that this is a

1:10:16 ↗ unique time that we'll have that

1:10:17 ↗ opportunity

1:10:19 ↗ and i think

1:10:22 ↗ um

1:10:24 ↗ yeah i think that's the majority of

1:10:27 ↗ of my comment but i do think the while

1:10:30 ↗ the checklist is a good starting point i

1:10:32 ↗ think at the end of the day

1:10:34 ↗ where we need to get to is more like

1:10:37 ↗ you couldn't

1:10:38 ↗ use these checklists

1:10:41 ↗ someone would have to read through every

1:10:42 ↗ single one

1:10:43 ↗ and then they still might not get a lot

1:10:45 ↗ of like okay what mattered at the end of

1:10:47 ↗ the day and i do really think that at

1:10:49 ↗ the end of the day like the community is

1:10:50 ↗ toward

1:10:52 ↗ the staff that and city that stacy's

1:10:55 ↗ reporting back to

1:10:56 ↗ i think

1:10:57 ↗ we need to figure out a way to be able

1:10:59 ↗ to share the impacts of the lack of

1:11:00 ↗ impact that we're having and i think

1:11:02 ↗ right now it's really challenging and so

1:11:05 ↗ something that i mentioned in the last

1:11:06 ↗ time we talked about this i really do

1:11:08 ↗ think a way to aggregate across

1:11:10 ↗ a year the impacts

1:11:13 ↗ um and that might be slightly different

1:11:15 ↗ than what the individual project

1:11:16 ↗ checklist does i'm sure a lot of the

1:11:18 ↗ things you might track in the checklist

1:11:19 ↗ or whatever we end up calling it will

1:11:22 ↗ ladder up or be something that you would

1:11:23 ↗ report on that but i do think the end of

1:11:25 ↗ the year report

1:11:26 ↗ i would be really interested to see is

1:11:28 ↗ is is more summary level and and how do

1:11:31 ↗ we

1:11:32 ↗ take from all the projects that not only

1:11:34 ↗ this year but in in the recent history

1:11:36 ↗ and understand

1:11:38 ↗ what the whether we were happy with the

1:11:40 ↗ outcomes or not like if the public was

1:11:42 ↗ to look at this at the end of the like

1:11:44 ↗ our report out at the end of end of a

1:11:46 ↗ given year would they be happy should

1:11:47 ↗ they be happy or should they not be

1:11:48 ↗ happy and i think that right now is is

1:11:51 ↗ hard to do so

1:11:53 ↗ yeah the working progress but

1:11:56 ↗ i think we have a really interesting

1:11:57 ↗ opportunity coming up

1:12:06 ↗ any other questions or feedback

1:12:14 ↗ do you have any other specific questions

1:12:16 ↗ or things that you

1:12:17 ↗ would like feedback on

1:12:21 ↗ um

1:12:24 ↗ i don't think so i think that covers

1:12:26 ↗ what

1:12:28 ↗ what my questions were especially very

1:12:31 ↗ bright-eyed

1:12:34 ↗ unencumbered um

1:12:37 ↗ but uh

1:12:42 ↗ sorry

1:12:46 ↗ but i think it's really interesting

1:12:48 ↗ some of these projects like the

1:12:49 ↗ redevelopment of that side along newport

1:12:51 ↗ you know they're going to take a bunch

1:12:52 ↗ of asphalt parking out which is probably

1:12:55 ↗ and they're going to they you may they

1:12:57 ↗ may end up putting in um

1:12:59 ↗ you know the what stuff that percolates

1:13:01 ↗ what's it called don come on

1:13:03 ↗ permeable concrete or permeable asphalt

1:13:06 ↗ so that it's now cleaning it up and i

1:13:08 ↗ think that's something we can report out

1:13:09 ↗ we removed you know two acres of asphalt

1:13:13 ↗ we removed you know um and replaced it

1:13:17 ↗ with this

1:13:18 ↗ benefiting the streams

1:13:20 ↗ um it had a light generating source from

1:13:23 ↗ open from the windows that affected you

1:13:26 ↗ know nearby areas

1:13:28 ↗ and now they've decreased that light

1:13:29 ↗ they're turning the lights off they're

1:13:31 ↗ they have old lighting fixtures in there

1:13:34 ↗ that were the old incandescent bulbs now

1:13:36 ↗ they have all led bulbs

1:13:38 ↗ and those are the things to me that

1:13:43 ↗ the people in the community would like

1:13:44 ↗ to know about and i think that's kind of

1:13:47 ↗ where i'm hoping we might be thinking

1:13:49 ↗ about going um because i really think it

1:13:52 ↗ could be a really cool report if they're

1:13:54 ↗ doing the right things with the

1:13:55 ↗ buildings

1:13:56 ↗ it could be a win-win for the city and

1:13:58 ↗ the developer you're not thinking what

1:14:00 ↗ nancy is just saying if i'm a developer

1:14:02 ↗ and i get an opportunity to report out

1:14:03 ↗ the end of my project

1:14:05 ↗ the good things that i did to improve my

1:14:08 ↗ area

1:14:09 ↗ i'd be really excited about that put

1:14:11 ↗ solar panels on whatever it is that type

1:14:13 ↗ of thing

1:14:21 ↗ sorry to add all that

1:14:27 ↗ all right

1:14:29 ↗ once we have any other questions i'll

1:14:30 ↗ try to summarize

1:14:32 ↗ that i mean i think the probably

1:14:35 ↗ the biggest theme was the board's

1:14:37 ↗ interest in

1:14:38 ↗ hearing more about outcomes and scoring

1:14:41 ↗ is something that

1:14:42 ↗ would be more easily um applied some

1:14:45 ↗ like measurable metrics of our success

1:14:48 ↗ or lack of success

1:14:51 ↗ in protecting the environment

1:14:53 ↗ a couple other comments focused on

1:14:57 ↗ one the opportunity that we have with

1:14:59 ↗ with title 18 to look at are there some

1:15:01 ↗ policy topics that we should be

1:15:04 ↗ able to report on or evaluating against

1:15:07 ↗ the prior code

1:15:08 ↗ um

1:15:10 ↗ trying to think what else um

1:15:14 ↗ yeah i mean i think it was also

1:15:16 ↗ mentioned several times just how this

1:15:18 ↗ could be used as a resource to the

1:15:19 ↗ community i think right now i mean

1:15:22 ↗ the checklist is used with community but

1:15:24 ↗ how it could provide summary level

1:15:28 ↗ guidance or

1:15:30 ↗ reporting out of progress or lack of

1:15:32 ↗ progress to the community and it's not

1:15:34 ↗ just an environmental board thing it's

1:15:35 ↗ something that could be a tool for the

1:15:37 ↗ broader community to understand

1:15:39 ↗ how

1:15:40 ↗ the city and

1:15:42 ↗ that year um shaped up

1:15:45 ↗ anything

1:15:46 ↗ i missed

1:15:49 ↗ i just clarify um were you interested in

1:15:52 ↗ seeing was the board interested in

1:15:54 ↗ seeing um a summary of the information

1:15:56 ↗ in our end of the year report this year

1:15:59 ↗ or is that something you're looking for

1:16:01 ↗ in the future

1:16:04 ↗ i think that's for everyone yeah

1:16:06 ↗ i think it needs to be in the report

1:16:08 ↗ this year we kind of hunted last year

1:16:10 ↗ because we didn't have much yeah

1:16:12 ↗ and we may not have a lot more

1:16:14 ↗ but

1:16:15 ↗ let's start okay that sounds great i can

1:16:18 ↗ work with christian on that and then we

1:16:19 ↗ talked about possibly coming back to the

1:16:21 ↗ board in the spring to do kind of a

1:16:23 ↗ check-in and that checking could be did

1:16:25 ↗ we

1:16:26 ↗ get it right is it the right level of

1:16:28 ↗ the environmental board report prior to

1:16:31 ↗ our next review

1:16:47 ↗ thank you okay thank you all thank you

1:16:49 ↗ thank you for coming welcome welcome

1:16:52 ↗ all right uh with that we will move on

1:16:56 ↗ to reports

1:16:58 ↗ really stacy you'll probably have the

1:16:59 ↗ first

1:17:01 ↗ most of that bro

1:17:09 ↗ give me one minute why

1:17:11 ↗ just nice

1:17:26 ↗ all right stephen um

1:17:28 ↗ i'm going to go ahead and meet you on my

1:17:30 ↗ end

1:17:31 ↗ um

1:17:33 ↗ with people in the panelists tonight so

1:17:35 ↗ i'll go ahead and meet and meet you in

1:17:36 ↗ case you want to jump in

1:17:40 ↗ great um well tonight we just wanted to

1:17:43 ↗ do kind of a brief update on where title

1:17:46 ↗ 18 is and then also share with the board

1:17:49 ↗ um a crosswalk that's been developed has

1:17:52 ↗ been shared a number of times with

1:17:54 ↗ council ppc

1:17:56 ↗ it's up on our website it's been

1:17:58 ↗ circulating

1:17:59 ↗ a bit

1:18:00 ↗ and

1:18:02 ↗ the purpose of this crosswalk was really

1:18:04 ↗ to pull out the actions within the

1:18:07 ↗ climate action plan that identified

1:18:09 ↗ title 18

1:18:11 ↗ as it means for implementation

1:18:13 ↗ and then to speak to where

1:18:15 ↗ those are being addressed in title 18 or

1:18:18 ↗ are not being addressed and why and what

1:18:20 ↗ the timeline is for those to be

1:18:22 ↗ addressed

1:18:24 ↗ and so it was mostly just a update the

1:18:26 ↗ board on this table and steven are here

1:18:29 ↗ to take any questions um on where things

1:18:32 ↗ are

1:18:33 ↗ and

1:18:34 ↗ um i might see also if stephen wants to

1:18:36 ↗ provide a quick update on where we are

1:18:39 ↗ with title 18 and what the board can

1:18:41 ↗ expect to see in our november meeting

1:18:48 ↗ good evening everyone

1:18:50 ↗ steven padua long range planning manager

1:18:53 ↗ so where we are with the title 18

1:18:55 ↗ project is that we

1:18:57 ↗ are getting past the second phase which

1:18:59 ↗ is the drafting of the code and we're

1:19:02 ↗ moving into the phase where we're

1:19:03 ↗ consolidating the multiple drafts

1:19:06 ↗ as you're familiar with we broke up

1:19:08 ↗ title 18 into six different buckets

1:19:11 ↗ and um so we're we're

1:19:13 ↗ [Music]

1:19:14 ↗ going to be conducting some code testing

1:19:16 ↗ as we're consolidating the draft code

1:19:18 ↗ and then we'll be going into uh

1:19:20 ↗ consolidated draft public hearings with

1:19:22 ↗ the planning policy commission in

1:19:24 ↗ november

1:19:33 ↗ okay

1:19:34 ↗ i hear you okay

1:19:38 ↗ great so this was really we haven't um

1:19:41 ↗ the staff haven't come to you with title

1:19:42 ↗ 18 in several months we worked quite a

1:19:45 ↗ bit on a natural environment sections

1:19:48 ↗ back in the spring so just wanted to do

1:19:50 ↗ a quick check in here provide this table

1:19:53 ↗ and see if there were questions

1:19:56 ↗ any areas of input that the board wants

1:19:59 ↗ to

1:20:00 ↗ further participate in

1:20:02 ↗ recognizing that really our next

1:20:03 ↗ check-in will be that november meeting

1:20:05 ↗ where you'll be receiving uh

1:20:08 ↗ the consolidated draft of title 18 a

1:20:10 ↗ couple weeks in advance for review

1:20:15 ↗ nancy go ahead

1:20:17 ↗ so stephen can you explain to me what uh

1:20:21 ↗ the ppc is doing regarding

1:20:23 ↗ they're doing some kind of numeric

1:20:26 ↗ scoring

1:20:27 ↗ based on

1:20:28 ↗ climate action plan i've read the

1:20:31 ↗ meeting minutes from the last ppc

1:20:32 ↗ meeting

1:20:33 ↗ and it appears that they're doing some

1:20:35 ↗ work along that could you explain what

1:20:36 ↗ they're really doing with that and the

1:20:38 ↗ community values they're putting forward

1:20:41 ↗ are you referring to the ecological

1:20:43 ↗ score

1:20:44 ↗ when it comes to

1:20:46 ↗ sustainability

1:20:49 ↗ um ppc isn't doing anything with that

1:20:52 ↗ right now it was just a discussion if if

1:20:54 ↗ the city should be approaching

1:20:56 ↗ how we are

1:20:58 ↗ um

1:21:00 ↗ how we are implementing sustainability

1:21:03 ↗ through our work

1:21:04 ↗ it was uh the discussion that we had

1:21:06 ↗ with the planning policy commission was

1:21:08 ↗ just to determine if we want to go that

1:21:10 ↗ approach and how we might go that

1:21:12 ↗ approach that

1:21:13 ↗ it is

1:21:14 ↗ i currently identified as a future

1:21:17 ↗ update item following this current

1:21:19 ↗ project update

1:21:21 ↗ and so

1:21:22 ↗ later next year i think we'll be having

1:21:24 ↗ a discussion of

1:21:25 ↗ what that might look like as part of

1:21:27 ↗ code updates or

1:21:29 ↗ expanded implementation of icap

1:21:32 ↗ as we're looking at how to incorporate

1:21:34 ↗ more sustainability in our work

1:21:36 ↗ so

1:21:37 ↗ there will be more discussions on what

1:21:39 ↗ that might be

1:21:41 ↗ but there's currently no work being done

1:21:42 ↗ by planning policy commission on that

1:21:44 ↗ item

1:21:46 ↗ so i know that you surveyed a lot of

1:21:47 ↗ cities about that so you looked at how

1:21:49 ↗ that was being approached by many other

1:21:51 ↗ communities in the county is that

1:21:53 ↗ correct

1:21:55 ↗ we did a pierce city research to see how

1:21:59 ↗ other cities are approaching green

1:22:00 ↗ building design requirements

1:22:02 ↗ and the city of redmond was one where it

1:22:05 ↗ was it established an ecological

1:22:07 ↗ ecological score that provided

1:22:12 ↗ flexibility around the requirements for

1:22:14 ↗ green building design

1:22:16 ↗ and so

1:22:17 ↗ they were basically creating an options

1:22:20 ↗ list of requirements

1:22:21 ↗ for developers to incorporate green

1:22:23 ↗ building design in their developments

1:22:27 ↗ so can you find any other cities that

1:22:29 ↗ approaches it the same way

1:22:31 ↗ so since this isn't coming as part of

1:22:34 ↗ the current work associated with title

1:22:36 ↗ 18 i'd just like to request to the chair

1:22:38 ↗ and the vice chair that perhaps as this

1:22:40 ↗ gets further discussed next year after

1:22:43 ↗ title 18 is adopted that it comes

1:22:45 ↗ forward to this

1:22:46 ↗ board for further discussion

1:22:50 ↗ i think it's important

1:22:54 ↗ part of climate action

1:22:57 ↗ did you mean to put it out right again

1:23:07 ↗ um

1:23:08 ↗ i

1:23:09 ↗ have a question um

1:23:12 ↗ i guess i'm reading just the first

1:23:14 ↗ um

1:23:16 ↗ tl 1.1 incentivized dense mixed use and

1:23:19 ↗ transit oriented development

1:23:21 ↗ and then tl 1.3 adopt codes prioritizing

1:23:25 ↗ missing middle housing

1:23:27 ↗ i guess as i look at the code

1:23:29 ↗ applications towards those two items

1:23:31 ↗ which i think are at least in my opinion

1:23:34 ↗ pretty critical to like issaquah

1:23:35 ↗ continuing to be a sustainable community

1:23:38 ↗ is

1:23:38 ↗ developing in a way that is sustainable

1:23:41 ↗ um

1:23:42 ↗ i i'm not sure that i see a lot of teeth

1:23:45 ↗ or meat on the actions that are put

1:23:47 ↗ against that

1:23:48 ↗ um i mean the missing middle housing

1:23:50 ↗ that seems like and i don't know if this

1:23:52 ↗ is

1:23:53 ↗ the way it's intended but given that

1:23:54 ↗ there's no folded parts of that that

1:23:56 ↗ seems to be the thing that we're saying

1:23:57 ↗ we're not addressing

1:23:59 ↗ in this update

1:24:01 ↗ um so we'll be curious given that this

1:24:03 ↗ seems like a fairly i mean it's one of

1:24:05 ↗ our goals in it i would argue that it

1:24:07 ↗ doesn't really seem like we've

1:24:09 ↗ made really significant like updates i

1:24:12 ↗ mean our one thing related to zoning is

1:24:14 ↗ that we already do it which i think if

1:24:16 ↗ we get goals that

1:24:17 ↗ uh

1:24:18 ↗ i think with the process to

1:24:20 ↗ improve

1:24:21 ↗ saying that we already have it is

1:24:24 ↗ probably not what i think people would

1:24:25 ↗ have expected at the beginning of the

1:24:27 ↗ process so just curious that general

1:24:29 ↗ topic is it

1:24:31 ↗ is it that there wasn't the kind of

1:24:34 ↗ there's been focus on other areas or why

1:24:36 ↗ wasn't as much attention or parts of the

1:24:39 ↗ code update

1:24:41 ↗ applied to

1:24:42 ↗ these portions of kind of the initial

1:24:45 ↗ goals for um for this this update

1:24:49 ↗ and you're speaking to the the first one

1:24:51 ↗ that includes parking and zones and then

1:24:53 ↗ the third item more on the housing

1:24:55 ↗ diversity and affordable housing

1:25:00 ↗ the intention of this project has always

1:25:02 ↗ been to kind of just clean up the code

1:25:03 ↗ to really clarify what the

1:25:06 ↗ regulations are and what we're requiring

1:25:08 ↗ from developments

1:25:10 ↗ going in um

1:25:12 ↗ we looked at to see where we could

1:25:15 ↗ make sure

1:25:17 ↗ a lot of our policies and regulations

1:25:18 ↗ are in line with our city plans

1:25:21 ↗ some policies were able to change to

1:25:24 ↗ better align with what our city plans

1:25:26 ↗ are

1:25:27 ↗ actually call out as action items but

1:25:30 ↗ there's other policies that have been

1:25:32 ↗ identified for the future updates list

1:25:33 ↗ where our city plans aren't exactly

1:25:35 ↗ explicit about in terms of saying we

1:25:37 ↗ need to require this which is why we

1:25:39 ↗ need to have further community

1:25:41 ↗ conversations beyond it which is why

1:25:43 ↗ they're identified

1:25:45 ↗ on this list but also as a future

1:25:47 ↗ updates item following this project

1:25:49 ↗ update

1:25:54 ↗ okay um

1:25:59 ↗ is there specific actions that you're

1:26:01 ↗ looking for in in those two areas

1:26:05 ↗ well yeah i guess

1:26:06 ↗ no i don't know enough to know what the

1:26:08 ↗ actions we should be taking are it just

1:26:10 ↗ seems like there isn't a lot there so if

1:26:13 ↗ that

1:26:14 ↗ if that

1:26:15 ↗ is and i don't know what i i can't

1:26:17 ↗ remember the goals of title 18 in the

1:26:18 ↗ beginning

1:26:19 ↗ um i don't know if that aligns with our

1:26:22 ↗ cat focus areas

1:26:24 ↗ um

1:26:25 ↗ but it just seems like that part of

1:26:28 ↗ code hasn't really seen a lot of

1:26:31 ↗ um

1:26:32 ↗ progress and if that's if this is our

1:26:34 ↗ opportunity to do it i'm just not sure

1:26:36 ↗ like one the next time we update this

1:26:39 ↗ like

1:26:40 ↗ our climate action plan will be

1:26:42 ↗ uh an old document at that point so i'm

1:26:44 ↗ just curious

1:26:45 ↗ um

1:26:46 ↗ [Music]

1:26:47 ↗ it feels like a bit of a missed

1:26:48 ↗ opportunity so um that i think i just

1:26:51 ↗ wanted to

1:26:52 ↗ flag that i was concerned that we we

1:26:54 ↗ don't really seem to be addressing those

1:26:56 ↗ items

1:26:58 ↗ um

1:26:58 ↗ with enough substance to be to be

1:27:00 ↗ immediately changing those those those

1:27:03 ↗ two items

1:27:05 ↗ i think that's fair uh but i think i

1:27:07 ↗ should clarify this isn't the last time

1:27:09 ↗ we'll be touching

1:27:11 ↗ our city code

1:27:12 ↗ one thing that we've made clear with the

1:27:14 ↗ city council is we we plan on conducting

1:27:16 ↗ an annual review of our code

1:27:19 ↗ because we're doing such a large

1:27:20 ↗ overhaul we need to make sure everything

1:27:23 ↗ is operating as we intended it to

1:27:27 ↗ even when you're doing small sections of

1:27:29 ↗ code it never comes out perfect so a

1:27:31 ↗ full overhaul like this we're expecting

1:27:33 ↗ to have to make changes over time and so

1:27:36 ↗ we plan to revisit these sections on

1:27:38 ↗ housing and parking and zones

1:27:41 ↗ and and green building design as we

1:27:44 ↗ continue these conversations of how best

1:27:46 ↗ to approach

1:27:48 ↗ achieving the city goals

1:27:50 ↗ especially when it comes to implementing

1:27:51 ↗ our other city plans

1:27:55 ↗ thank you yeah no i i understand there's

1:27:57 ↗ a lot of things to focus on on such a

1:27:59 ↗ major update um i guess the only last

1:28:02 ↗ thing i would say is

1:28:04 ↗ i understand we'll probably be making

1:28:05 ↗ tweaks on an annual review i don't know

1:28:08 ↗ how likely

1:28:09 ↗ big

1:28:10 ↗ breaking changes will be and that seems

1:28:13 ↗ like what would be necessary to

1:28:14 ↗ immediately move those items so i do

1:28:16 ↗ think that's a question i have and

1:28:18 ↗ the question i'm

1:28:20 ↗ maybe shouldn't be asking as we're

1:28:22 ↗ moving towards approving title 18 is one

1:28:24 ↗ is the update of next title next update

1:28:26 ↗ of title 18 coming because that just

1:28:28 ↗ feels like they're maybe we're gonna

1:28:31 ↗ knock off some of our priorities now

1:28:33 ↗ um but given the scope it just seems

1:28:36 ↗ like they're not just details that we

1:28:37 ↗ might miss there are really large areas

1:28:40 ↗ that we may not have had the bandwidth

1:28:43 ↗ to which is understandable given the

1:28:45 ↗ scope but we may not have had

1:28:48 ↗ the opportunity to address with as much

1:28:50 ↗ attention as they might

1:28:52 ↗ it might need or

1:28:55 ↗ yeah my name so

1:28:57 ↗ yeah no i i know that you

1:28:59 ↗ you and your team are have a ton on your

1:29:01 ↗ plate and this is a major update so i

1:29:03 ↗ think that that was just my my concern

1:29:06 ↗ coming out of that as a result

1:29:08 ↗ yeah no i understand

1:29:13 ↗ any other

1:29:14 ↗ questions or feedback

1:29:22 ↗ um actually i do have one more question

1:29:24 ↗ of

1:29:25 ↗ all right back to you nancy uh

1:29:27 ↗ in the last

1:29:29 ↗ um

1:29:29 ↗ meeting that we had related to tree

1:29:31 ↗ canopy

1:29:32 ↗ there was discussion around neighborhood

1:29:34 ↗ limits

1:29:36 ↗ or not limits but requirements

1:29:38 ↗ for tree canopy

1:29:40 ↗ i don't see that mentioned here is that

1:29:43 ↗ because it's

1:29:45 ↗ either wasn't

1:29:47 ↗ it's no longer the case or

1:29:49 ↗ is it just not included in the list on

1:29:52 ↗ like

1:29:53 ↗ 1.3 or the natural systems

1:29:55 ↗ 1.3 just curious if

1:29:58 ↗ that

1:29:59 ↗ was either missed from this list or if

1:30:01 ↗ that's no longer

1:30:04 ↗ kind of included in the current plans

1:30:08 ↗ it's it's uh

1:30:09 ↗ missed from the list

1:30:11 ↗ um

1:30:12 ↗ we're actually

1:30:13 ↗ conducting that analysis right now so

1:30:15 ↗ we're incorporating some of that in into

1:30:17 ↗ the next draft

1:30:19 ↗ yeah because i think there's tree bank

1:30:20 ↗ as well or that's probably not the term

1:30:22 ↗ that maybe it's a different term but

1:30:24 ↗ okay

1:30:25 ↗ sounds like that was it's not that

1:30:26 ↗ anything is meaningfully changed from

1:30:28 ↗ that tree canopy discussion it's just

1:30:29 ↗ that it wasn't included in this

1:30:32 ↗ crosswalk nancy go ahead so this is just

1:30:35 ↗ a general question for you steven um can

1:30:38 ↗ you lay out what kind of

1:30:40 ↗ we haven't heard much on title 18 where

1:30:41 ↗ are you at

1:30:43 ↗ and kind of when's it going to council

1:30:45 ↗ become what's your how's your schedule

1:30:46 ↗ now can you just give us the big picture

1:30:48 ↗ of where you're going and when you think

1:30:50 ↗ this

1:30:50 ↗ will be the heavy council discussion

1:30:53 ↗ that we're anticipating

1:30:56 ↗ sure so

1:30:57 ↗ um

1:30:58 ↗ for the next couple of months planning

1:31:00 ↗ policy commission will be having

1:31:01 ↗ discussions of comprehensive plan

1:31:03 ↗ amendments

1:31:04 ↗ and then starting in november the first

1:31:06 ↗ meeting or the two meetings in november

1:31:08 ↗ will be the public hearings on the

1:31:10 ↗ consolidated draft where we'll

1:31:12 ↗ result in a recommendation going to

1:31:13 ↗ council and then we'll meet with the

1:31:14 ↗ planning development and environment

1:31:17 ↗ council committee in december and

1:31:19 ↗ potentially again

1:31:20 ↗ either in december and early january and

1:31:23 ↗ then that says that'll kind of initiate

1:31:25 ↗ that legislative process for title 18

1:31:27 ↗ adoption that that can take one to three

1:31:30 ↗ months depending on

1:31:32 ↗ how the discussions go with ppc and with

1:31:34 ↗ the council committee in december

1:31:38 ↗ and just another question will this code

1:31:41 ↗ amendment it will be adopted by

1:31:43 ↗ ordinance is that kind of how it's going

1:31:44 ↗ to have to go forward

1:31:47 ↗ yes it'll it'll

1:31:49 ↗ likely be adopted by multiple ordinances

1:31:52 ↗ but yes

1:31:55 ↗ and the goal is to have that work

1:31:57 ↗ completed by spring of next year so i

1:32:00 ↗ can't i'm just because that's kind of a

1:32:01 ↗ window

1:32:03 ↗ yeah i that would i would say that's the

1:32:05 ↗ goal because um part of the incentive

1:32:07 ↗ for next year is to be initiating our uh

1:32:10 ↗ comprehensive plan update uh which will

1:32:13 ↗ be a pretty significant effort so

1:32:16 ↗ the title 18 updates will be rolling

1:32:17 ↗ into that comprehensive plan update and

1:32:19 ↗ discussions

1:32:21 ↗ thank you i just wanted to understand

1:32:23 ↗ the big picture how this was coming down

1:32:25 ↗ the pipe thank you sure

1:32:28 ↗ thank you for the question

1:32:32 ↗ all right well that looks like

1:32:35 ↗ all the comments and questions

1:32:38 ↗ i think to summarize

1:32:40 ↗ uh

1:32:41 ↗ there's definitely interest in

1:32:43 ↗ understanding

1:32:45 ↗ if an ecology score or something of that

1:32:47 ↗ effect is

1:32:49 ↗ um incorporated um

1:32:52 ↗ the interest in learning more about that

1:32:53 ↗ and potentially discussing that at a

1:32:55 ↗ future meeting

1:32:57 ↗ um there are also concerns around how

1:33:00 ↗ some of the the current icap goals don't

1:33:02 ↗ seem to be meaningfully addressed

1:33:04 ↗ by this update and then how

1:33:07 ↗ will

1:33:08 ↗ things that require seeing

1:33:10 ↗ quite large updates be addressed um

1:33:14 ↗ for any future

1:33:16 ↗ changes to title 18 code

1:33:18 ↗ and then there's general interest in

1:33:20 ↗ making sure we understood um

1:33:22 ↗ kind of where this stands in the process

1:33:24 ↗ leading up to our next meeting that we

1:33:26 ↗ have

1:33:27 ↗ for this

1:33:28 ↗ in november

1:33:30 ↗ any other items

1:33:33 ↗ i

1:33:35 ↗ good job missed

1:33:36 ↗ thank you stephen

1:33:38 ↗ thanks steven thank you thank you thanks

1:33:41 ↗ for having me everyone

1:33:43 ↗ [Music]

1:33:44 ↗ all right

1:33:46 ↗ stacey are there any more um reports

1:33:51 ↗ um

1:33:52 ↗ i have was just going to walk through

1:33:54 ↗ the board schedule and then a brief uh

1:33:56 ↗ icap update

1:33:59 ↗ well

1:34:00 ↗ right now take it away all right

1:34:02 ↗ great um

1:34:04 ↗ one thing to just know i'll resend that

1:34:07 ↗ uh title 18 schedule and also kind of

1:34:10 ↗ the heads up to make sure you're saving

1:34:12 ↗ some time before i know that they're

1:34:14 ↗ needing to do a review so on the trip to

1:34:16 ↗ get that back out to the board

1:34:19 ↗ um so just a few quick updates on the

1:34:22 ↗ board schedule um we made a few

1:34:27 ↗ adjustments to accommodate the addition

1:34:28 ↗ of a parks

1:34:30 ↗ meeting with us back

1:34:32 ↗ sorry in december uh so they'll be

1:34:34 ↗ providing us uh overview of the update

1:34:36 ↗ to the park strategic plan that'll be

1:34:38 ↗ coming in 2023

1:34:40 ↗ um

1:34:41 ↗ so that

1:34:42 ↗ involves a little bit of shifting a few

1:34:43 ↗ items around

1:34:45 ↗ and just want to highlight what is

1:34:47 ↗ coming forward next meeting

1:34:49 ↗ we'll be looking at a

1:34:52 ↗ final draft for for your input on the

1:34:54 ↗ icap dashboard

1:34:56 ↗ as a

1:34:58 ↗ update to the conversation we had i

1:35:00 ↗ think back in june

1:35:01 ↗ we'll have the wastewater master plan

1:35:03 ↗ coming forward

1:35:05 ↗ and then i believe um we'll also be

1:35:07 ↗ having a conversation on the cip

1:35:11 ↗ both the overview but then some

1:35:13 ↗ discussions on

1:35:15 ↗ environmental scoring of that need to

1:35:18 ↗ confirm that that conversation will be

1:35:19 ↗ ready to come to us in october

1:35:23 ↗ one adjustment i did make here is we

1:35:25 ↗ were

1:35:27 ↗ looking to move forward a municipal

1:35:28 ↗ building pathway

1:35:31 ↗ for decarbonization this would be just a

1:35:34 ↗ commitment to at least do a review of

1:35:37 ↗ all the city's buildings and identify

1:35:39 ↗ the plan for decarbonization um we've

1:35:42 ↗ lost our facilities manager um and then

1:35:46 ↗ i'm also working to bring on a staff

1:35:48 ↗ person that'll work a little bit more on

1:35:50 ↗ the municipal operations side so i think

1:35:52 ↗ i'm going to postpone that until 2023

1:35:55 ↗ early 2023 because we're not quite ready

1:35:57 ↗ for it and i want to make sure we have

1:35:58 ↗ our new facilities manager on board

1:36:02 ↗ and working closely with us on that

1:36:06 ↗ those are the major updates to

1:36:09 ↗ the calendar for the rest of the year

1:36:13 ↗ any questions on that yeah i did a well

1:36:15 ↗ more of a comment um i actually think

1:36:18 ↗ that this crosswalk was was quite

1:36:20 ↗ helpful

1:36:22 ↗ and i'm curious like especially looking

1:36:24 ↗ at like parks but also if we look at

1:36:27 ↗ what at the point that we're talking

1:36:28 ↗ about transportation or some of the

1:36:30 ↗ other updates

1:36:32 ↗ i do think it would be helpful to

1:36:34 ↗ to do something like request something

1:36:37 ↗ similar as part of that process and i

1:36:39 ↗ don't know how much they'll be that's

1:36:40 ↗ relevant to parks

1:36:42 ↗ from the ipad but

1:36:45 ↗ yeah that exercise i think would be

1:36:47 ↗ helpful to identify some of the gaps

1:36:48 ↗ that we

1:36:49 ↗ like we saw in this highlight team

1:36:51 ↗ version

1:36:53 ↗ so that's something we can talk more

1:36:55 ↗ about maybe in our check-in text but

1:36:59 ↗ that does seem like an area that

1:37:01 ↗ it could be helpful

1:37:03 ↗ to make sure that the sid not only us

1:37:04 ↗ that we can do that that crosswalk but

1:37:07 ↗ also that

1:37:08 ↗ ensure that

1:37:09 ↗ that has been communicated those goals

1:37:11 ↗ have been communicated to the teams that

1:37:13 ↗ are being factored in on

1:37:16 ↗ different plans that are coming up

1:37:21 ↗ and go ahead

1:37:23 ↗ um my question is off

1:37:26 ↗ subject but it's been something that

1:37:28 ↗ i've been thinking about

1:37:29 ↗ um

1:37:32 ↗ are we do we have any metrics on the

1:37:34 ↗ planet action challenge um in regards to

1:37:36 ↗ the icap

1:37:39 ↗ yes we are um yeah we'll be reporting

1:37:43 ↗ some of that in the dashboard um the

1:37:45 ↗ climate action challenge is tracking the

1:37:48 ↗ actions committed to and actions

1:37:50 ↗ completed by participants and

1:37:53 ↗ the amount of carbon reduced okay so

1:37:56 ↗ that's the kind of information

1:37:58 ↗ i think there are more metrics we can

1:37:59 ↗ pull from it i'll have to talk to them

1:38:02 ↗ that's great

1:38:04 ↗ that's what i was telling people and

1:38:05 ↗ then i realized i wasn't sure but yeah

1:38:08 ↗ yeah i can pull it up in a minute and

1:38:10 ↗ show okay

1:38:12 ↗ any other questions or feedback on the

1:38:15 ↗ remainder of the schedule before i

1:38:17 ↗ launch into icap thanks

1:38:22 ↗ great

1:38:27 ↗ great um well i'll have a much more

1:38:29 ↗ in-depth um written icap

1:38:32 ↗ update for you all in october there's

1:38:34 ↗ one that will be going to the council

1:38:37 ↗ in mid-october i believe october so i'll

1:38:39 ↗ make sure to send that to the board um

1:38:42 ↗ um so that you have that written update

1:38:44 ↗ um but did want to just walk through a

1:38:46 ↗ few highlights of things that have been

1:38:48 ↗ going on over the last month or so

1:38:50 ↗ um we are starting to work with gibson

1:38:53 ↗ eck um there are a couple staff there

1:38:55 ↗ that have reached out that have been

1:38:57 ↗ really interested both in internship

1:38:58 ↗ opportunities around the icap but then

1:39:00 ↗ there is also in process a design lab

1:39:04 ↗ which is a six-week course with students

1:39:07 ↗ where they are looking at the climate

1:39:08 ↗ action challenge and trying to figure

1:39:10 ↗ out ways to motivate people

1:39:12 ↗ to get involved in that but also to

1:39:14 ↗ inspire behavior change

1:39:16 ↗ so they're going to be working on a

1:39:18 ↗ number of different

1:39:20 ↗ products that might help or videos or

1:39:23 ↗ testimonials

1:39:25 ↗ coming out of that so i think a fun

1:39:27 ↗ project to start engaging uh youth and

1:39:29 ↗ implementation and get some creative

1:39:31 ↗ ideas flowing we're hoping to continue

1:39:33 ↗ the partnership with gibson neck and

1:39:35 ↗ help them dig deeper on other icap

1:39:38 ↗ projects in the future yes sorry to

1:39:41 ↗ confirm that climate action challenge is

1:39:42 ↗ that synonymous with the east side of

1:39:44 ↗ climate change yes okay yes

1:39:46 ↗ yeah

1:39:48 ↗ um i think climate action challenge is

1:39:50 ↗ the national name for it but yes thank

1:39:52 ↗ you

1:39:53 ↗ um climate vulnerability assessment um

1:39:56 ↗ we held our first community

1:39:59 ↗ workshop virtual workshop

1:40:01 ↗ just a week ago i believe

1:40:04 ↗ and participated

1:40:06 ↗ it was just an hour-long

1:40:08 ↗ workshop mostly to introduce folks to

1:40:11 ↗ the

1:40:12 ↗ project that we're working on but we did

1:40:15 ↗ use this opportunity to do some

1:40:16 ↗ engagement and get some input on

1:40:18 ↗ different aspects of the vulnerability

1:40:19 ↗ assessment

1:40:21 ↗ we had planned to do a more in-depth

1:40:23 ↗ couple hour workshop with the community

1:40:25 ↗ last night in person uh we did not get

1:40:28 ↗ very many people to register for that so

1:40:30 ↗ we ended up canceling it and we're going

1:40:32 ↗ to pivot to

1:40:34 ↗ either doing more virtual workshops or

1:40:36 ↗ possibly an in-person workshop this

1:40:38 ↗ winter that will focus around proposed

1:40:40 ↗ actions and

1:40:41 ↗ possibly communication tools

1:40:44 ↗ um there are going to be other ways for

1:40:46 ↗ the community to engage this fall we'll

1:40:48 ↗ be launching an online open house so

1:40:51 ↗ folks can get update on the project

1:40:53 ↗ whenever they want they'll be a mapping

1:40:55 ↗ tool they can go in and

1:40:57 ↗ identify areas of

1:40:59 ↗ concern around the community

1:41:01 ↗ and then we'll also be launching a

1:41:03 ↗ community survey

1:41:05 ↗ i'll share both of those with the board

1:41:06 ↗ once they're ready

1:41:09 ↗ um

1:41:10 ↗ a heat pump campaign um we had our

1:41:13 ↗ fourth workshop this afternoon we got

1:41:16 ↗ about 90 participants that's been about

1:41:19 ↗ the standard for each of the workshops

1:41:22 ↗ and we have over

1:41:23 ↗ half to 75 percent of the participants

1:41:26 ↗ at the end of each meeting

1:41:28 ↗ stating that they'd like to be connected

1:41:30 ↗ with an installer and move forward

1:41:32 ↗ we don't have any metrics yet on how

1:41:34 ↗ they

1:41:35 ↗ have moved forward signing a contract

1:41:38 ↗ for installation but we will be getting

1:41:39 ↗ those reports soon

1:41:42 ↗ we have one more workshop

1:41:44 ↗ scheduled for later this month but we

1:41:46 ↗ are planning to launch another series of

1:41:47 ↗ workshops this fall

1:41:49 ↗ i'm getting a lot of questions on the

1:41:51 ↗ inflation reduction act which has heat

1:41:54 ↗ pump rebates um we're trying to learn as

1:41:56 ↗ much as we can along with everyone else

1:41:59 ↗ about timing and process for that and

1:42:01 ↗ we're providing information in the

1:42:02 ↗ workshops as we learn more

1:42:05 ↗ but anticipate that will really grow

1:42:08 ↗ awareness and interest of our

1:42:10 ↗ communities for the heat pump transition

1:42:14 ↗ we also have some preliminary good news

1:42:16 ↗ on a grant to help further expand that

1:42:18 ↗ program and provide additional

1:42:21 ↗ incentives for low moderate income as

1:42:24 ↗ well as for market rate programs so

1:42:26 ↗ provide more information on that

1:42:28 ↗ when it's official

1:42:31 ↗ clean buildings initiative we're working

1:42:33 ↗ to get under contract with mcdonald

1:42:35 ↗ miller to launch that program

1:42:38 ↗ this one's focused on the

1:42:41 ↗ on building building energy efficiency

1:42:45 ↗ in part to work with buildings that have

1:42:47 ↗ to

1:42:48 ↗ comply with the state standard

1:42:51 ↗ but we'll be opening up the opportunity

1:42:53 ↗ for any building that wants to advance

1:42:55 ↗ their energy efficiency

1:42:57 ↗ and still planning to do initial

1:42:59 ↗ marketing

1:43:00 ↗ paul

1:43:03 ↗ community climate challenge or eastside

1:43:05 ↗ climate challenge

1:43:07 ↗ we've been able to get some students

1:43:09 ↗ engaged i don't know appreciate your

1:43:10 ↗ partner there's a group of

1:43:11 ↗ sustainability ambassadors that have

1:43:14 ↗ kind of taken that on which is exciting

1:43:16 ↗ connected with that right yeah it's

1:43:18 ↗ starting to build more awareness and

1:43:20 ↗ attention we've been out at tabling at a

1:43:22 ↗ number of events that's been a really

1:43:24 ↗ fun one to table at and getting a lot of

1:43:27 ↗ community engagement

1:43:29 ↗ we've seen the numbers almost doubled or

1:43:32 ↗ we added 30 or 40 people just over the

1:43:35 ↗ last

1:43:36 ↗ week or two

1:43:37 ↗ as we've kind of picked up tabling um

1:43:39 ↗ we'll be at the

1:43:41 ↗ salmon on sunset event saturday tabling

1:43:44 ↗ um and talking a lot about climate

1:43:47 ↗ action connection to salmon and then

1:43:49 ↗ we'll be insanities as well so stop by

1:43:53 ↗ those foods if you're out nope

1:43:55 ↗ um

1:43:56 ↗ let's see

1:43:58 ↗ uh

1:43:59 ↗ just the last thing i'll mention is eb

1:44:02 ↗ charging

1:44:03 ↗ we're still working to get under

1:44:05 ↗ contract to put in both

1:44:07 ↗ replacement chargers for some that are

1:44:10 ↗ no longer working around the city and

1:44:12 ↗ then also put in some new charging

1:44:14 ↗ stations and these would be cities

1:44:15 ↗ monitored ones

1:44:17 ↗ um

1:44:18 ↗ so just taking a bit of a process to get

1:44:21 ↗ all those logistics worked out but we

1:44:23 ↗ plan to get those in this winner

1:44:25 ↗ and then also continue to identify new

1:44:27 ↗ locations free charging

1:44:30 ↗ um i'll be participating in a focus

1:44:32 ↗ group that pse is putting on where

1:44:34 ↗ they're going to be exploring

1:44:35 ↗ opportunities for more innovative

1:44:37 ↗ charging that could be more accessible

1:44:40 ↗ to

1:44:40 ↗ folks that live in multi-family

1:44:43 ↗ or don't have access to a charger at

1:44:45 ↗ home

1:44:46 ↗ they're looking um from what i

1:44:48 ↗ understand they're looking to model a

1:44:49 ↗ program after what seattle city light

1:44:51 ↗ has launched where they're putting

1:44:53 ↗ chargers in the street lights and

1:44:55 ↗ uh just making utility poles making it

1:44:58 ↗ more accessible

1:44:59 ↗ um along the road so we'll share more as

1:45:02 ↗ we learn about that program

1:45:05 ↗ um and then somewhat related to that we

1:45:07 ↗ were brainstorming some ideas for a city

1:45:10 ↗ sponsored event in the spring around

1:45:13 ↗ earth month

1:45:14 ↗ this year we really deferred to all the

1:45:17 ↗ partners that were doing earth day or

1:45:19 ↗ earth month events but thinking we might

1:45:21 ↗ try and do something

1:45:23 ↗ on our own next year maybe around

1:45:26 ↗ electric vehicles

1:45:28 ↗ but uh really open to any ideas if

1:45:31 ↗ anyone has um event ideas or something

1:45:34 ↗ that we could uh do with the community

1:45:36 ↗ around the icap or

1:45:38 ↗ other tv charts or electric vehicles or

1:45:42 ↗ charging or um

1:45:44 ↗ something around the icap that we could

1:45:46 ↗ really focus on and excite the community

1:45:48 ↗ and motivate them

1:45:49 ↗ yeah yes i'm not exactly sure how the

1:45:51 ↗ jurisdiction with like city of visible

1:45:53 ↗ and this was school district really

1:45:55 ↗ works but i think it could be pretty

1:45:57 ↗ cool because i know a number of teachers

1:45:59 ↗ at skyline i know that's smash but i'm

1:46:01 ↗ sure other schools as well there's a

1:46:02 ↗ number of teachers and plenty of

1:46:04 ↗ students who have electric vehicles

1:46:07 ↗ so as a potential location for electric

1:46:09 ↗ vehicle charging stations

1:46:11 ↗ uh and then also tying that together

1:46:13 ↗ with like a workshop an educational hard

1:46:15 ↗ shop so we can link both of them

1:46:17 ↗ together and

1:46:18 ↗ kind of like do one

1:46:23 ↗ yeah it's just let me know if you're

1:46:25 ↗ interested in brainstorming ideas if you

1:46:27 ↗ like putting together events or

1:46:29 ↗ just looking for any ideas on what we

1:46:31 ↗ might think about doing and next year

1:46:34 ↗ okay so these events will be next year

1:46:36 ↗ yeah i think probably a spring one we

1:46:38 ↗ were thinking of something this fall and

1:46:39 ↗ then um sailing on sunset came up and so

1:46:43 ↗ i don't want to overwhelm the community

1:46:45 ↗ but i think it might be nice to do um

1:46:48 ↗ city sponsored event next year yeah i'd

1:46:51 ↗ be happy to join them

1:46:55 ↗ any questions on icap implementation

1:47:05 ↗ seems like it's coming along really well

1:47:07 ↗ um

1:47:08 ↗ yes i think

1:47:10 ↗ um

1:47:11 ↗ it's been a lot of focus on external

1:47:14 ↗ work this year and the community

1:47:16 ↗ campaigns i think next year with

1:47:19 ↗ additional staff new facilities manager

1:47:22 ↗ on board i think there's a great

1:47:24 ↗ opportunity to really focus on the

1:47:25 ↗ internal municipal operations and that's

1:47:29 ↗ when i think having some more

1:47:30 ↗ discussions around policies and

1:47:34 ↗ what the city is going to require of

1:47:36 ↗ itself i think we'll start having those

1:47:37 ↗ more with the board so i'm excited to

1:47:40 ↗ move into that piece

1:47:42 ↗ and stacy is that october

1:47:44 ↗ kind of bigger update or share out is

1:47:46 ↗ that when

1:47:47 ↗ you expect that details on like what the

1:47:50 ↗ priorities for 23 will be

1:47:53 ↗ like the or the actions or strategies

1:47:55 ↗ that will be most focused on

1:47:57 ↗ that is a good question i wasn't

1:47:59 ↗ planning on that um as part of that

1:48:02 ↗ report to council i could definitely

1:48:03 ↗ include that um i think that is a

1:48:06 ↗ conversation i wanted to have with the

1:48:07 ↗ board i can't remember if it was i think

1:48:10 ↗ november

1:48:12 ↗ um

1:48:14 ↗ november or december i was planning to

1:48:16 ↗ have that conversation with the board as

1:48:18 ↗ we looked at both our schedule as well

1:48:20 ↗ as what i've outlined as the prairies

1:48:22 ↗ for 2023

1:48:25 ↗ um

1:48:26 ↗ but i'll talk to

1:48:27 ↗ our city administrator and see if that's

1:48:28 ↗ something we should include at least a

1:48:30 ↗ premium list

1:48:41 ↗ yeah i would be interested in

1:48:44 ↗ that processor when when there's

1:48:46 ↗ something to share out there yeah i just

1:48:49 ↗ i played that kind of for december and

1:48:51 ↗ then maybe a revisit in january but um

1:48:55 ↗ earlier

1:48:58 ↗ this is kind of on a different subject

1:49:00 ↗ so

1:49:01 ↗ there's more discussion around this but

1:49:02 ↗ if

1:49:03 ↗ so we're going to see the city cip

1:49:06 ↗ potentially in october

1:49:09 ↗ and is each department presenting that

1:49:11 ↗ in terms of help

1:49:13 ↗ and the reason i'm asking this and i'll

1:49:15 ↗ go to the end before you answer that

1:49:17 ↗ question is

1:49:19 ↗ it seems to me we've talked to many

1:49:21 ↗ departments and suggested it's time for

1:49:23 ↗ them to do something in their capital

1:49:25 ↗ program to change the energy used or to

1:49:28 ↗ think about their carbon footprint we

1:49:30 ↗ suggested to parks moving away from gas

1:49:32 ↗ leaf blowers gas you know on and on and

1:49:35 ↗ on

1:49:36 ↗ so

1:49:37 ↗ it will be interesting to see what the

1:49:38 ↗ capital program looks like and if any of

1:49:41 ↗ those

1:49:42 ↗ if any of that's kind of being

1:49:43 ↗ considered

1:49:44 ↗ so that's why i'm asking if the

1:49:46 ↗ departments are presenting it because

1:49:48 ↗ personally i will have some questions if

1:49:50 ↗ we're not starting to see that in

1:49:53 ↗ a five-year capital program that or six

1:49:56 ↗ years however long the city is doing it

1:49:58 ↗ if we're not seeing money going towards

1:50:00 ↗ implementation of icap and reducing our

1:50:02 ↗ carbon emissions we're not going to meet

1:50:04 ↗ our deadlines and so

1:50:06 ↗ i'm hoping that you're signaling to

1:50:08 ↗ whoever's presenting this

1:50:10 ↗ that they should be prepared for these

1:50:12 ↗ questions because

1:50:14 ↗ what we have a big deadline in 2030 and

1:50:18 ↗ if this is a six year cip it'll be the

1:50:20 ↗ end of 2028 and if we're not doing

1:50:23 ↗ anything in that time frame

1:50:25 ↗ if it's not in there as a major piece of

1:50:27 ↗ each department's capital program then

1:50:29 ↗ we're not going to meet our goals

1:50:32 ↗ that's just my two cents so i'm

1:50:35 ↗ forewarning whoever's coming

1:50:39 ↗ yeah thank you my i needed to circle

1:50:42 ↗ with our deputy administrator that

1:50:44 ↗ that's who was planning to come and i

1:50:46 ↗ believe her intent was to read the

1:50:48 ↗ overview of the process and start the

1:50:50 ↗ conversation with the board about um

1:50:55 ↗ uh

1:50:56 ↗ environmental scorecard essentially for

1:50:57 ↗ the cip so i'll she's on my list to

1:51:00 ↗ circle with this week or next week and i

1:51:02 ↗ can

1:51:03 ↗ send a note out to the board on what we

1:51:05 ↗ expect for that presentation

1:51:08 ↗ i think we should see projects as well

1:51:10 ↗ that's just my two cents because

1:51:13 ↗ i think we have been signaling to

1:51:15 ↗ departments they need to do things

1:51:17 ↗ differently we're hoping to signal that

1:51:20 ↗ and i don't think

1:51:23 ↗ i think that's the message we've got to

1:51:25 ↗ get back to council at some point if

1:51:27 ↗ we're not seeing that and that is that

1:51:29 ↗ with the capital

1:51:31 ↗ this is my

1:51:32 ↗ guess

1:51:33 ↗ the capital program will not allow us

1:51:36 ↗ likely to meet

1:51:37 ↗ our icap goals

1:51:40 ↗ our climate action commitments i mean

1:51:42 ↗ likely it might but

1:51:45 ↗ it takes a whole different kind of

1:51:47 ↗ thinking to build a catholic program to

1:51:49 ↗ meet the deadline or the

1:51:52 ↗ goals we set for 2030.

1:51:54 ↗ and

1:51:56 ↗ that's just

1:51:57 ↗ kind of my

1:52:00 ↗ and as someone who managed capital for a

1:52:03 ↗ agency this is would be very hard to do

1:52:10 ↗ and i do think on that same topic like

1:52:13 ↗ and you mentioned next year hopefully we

1:52:16 ↗ the city will have more

1:52:18 ↗ kind of bandwidth to look at internal

1:52:19 ↗ operations but i do think

1:52:22 ↗ i can't remember what it was but there

1:52:24 ↗ are certain things like overhauling the

1:52:26 ↗ security system that

1:52:28 ↗ are there is it like we have to go and

1:52:30 ↗ buy a 150 lead electric leaf like

1:52:33 ↗ there's some things that like

1:52:35 ↗ are kind of operating that maybe we need

1:52:37 ↗ to think about making capital because of

1:52:39 ↗ the scale of like what we need to

1:52:41 ↗ replace so i would be really interested

1:52:43 ↗ like one there's going to be it sounds

1:52:45 ↗ like yeah that scorecard of like

1:52:48 ↗ kind of informing

1:52:50 ↗ purchasing decisions with

1:52:52 ↗ like this in mind but also are there

1:52:54 ↗ just like

1:52:55 ↗ things that we need to be prioritizing

1:52:57 ↗ is like these are

1:52:59 ↗ like we need to make a commitment and

1:53:01 ↗ like this is a

1:53:02 ↗ a large expense that we might need to

1:53:04 ↗ think about including

1:53:05 ↗ um that you might just be replacing one

1:53:08 ↗ usually just replacing things as they

1:53:10 ↗ broke are there any things that we can't

1:53:12 ↗ wait until they break to

1:53:14 ↗ to take them out of service

1:53:16 ↗ would be another area that i do think it

1:53:18 ↗ sounds like it'll probably be on what we

1:53:20 ↗ talk about next year i'm curious how

1:53:21 ↗ stuff like that

1:53:23 ↗ makes it i mean i think that part of

1:53:25 ↗ like how things get purchased and how

1:53:28 ↗ these types of decisions get made is

1:53:30 ↗ something i'm really interested in

1:53:32 ↗ diving into next year so

1:53:34 ↗ um i think the cip

1:53:37 ↗ conversation probably won't talk about

1:53:38 ↗ that but that's where i think we might

1:53:40 ↗ need to have that be a part of the cip

1:53:42 ↗ conversation

1:53:43 ↗ um

1:53:45 ↗ because otherwise i just some of these

1:53:46 ↗ things that we're doing or to nancy

1:53:48 ↗ point like goals that we might have

1:53:51 ↗ are going to be really hard to do just

1:53:53 ↗ like asking council for

1:53:56 ↗ some expenditure where some of these

1:53:58 ↗ might not be expenditures that they're

1:54:00 ↗ really able to do so just think of being

1:54:03 ↗ planned one thinking about some of those

1:54:04 ↗ topics with the area worthwhile as we

1:54:07 ↗ have the cip as well as the internal

1:54:10 ↗ focus

1:54:19 ↗ great that's all i had all right any

1:54:22 ↗ other business or reports out from

1:54:25 ↗ the rest of the board

1:54:28 ↗ rishi yeah it's not really um

1:54:32 ↗ anything we've talked about but i just

1:54:33 ↗ had like a question to the board is so

1:54:36 ↗ at skyline high school um we're really

1:54:38 ↗ interested in incorporating like green

1:54:40 ↗ building initiatives so my question to

1:54:42 ↗ you is whether you have any idea of like

1:54:44 ↗ either loading group or

1:54:46 ↗ other

1:54:48 ↗ actions we can pursue with our school

1:54:50 ↗ board to make skyline

1:54:52 ↗ a green building

1:54:56 ↗ are you um

1:54:58 ↗ recycling and doing compost

1:55:00 ↗ and all of that already yeah so that's

1:55:03 ↗ one of the issues we

1:55:04 ↗ we have no collector who comes to grab

1:55:07 ↗ our compost after the pandemic since

1:55:11 ↗ so currently it's just garbage and

1:55:13 ↗ recycling

1:55:15 ↗ so that's obviously something we're

1:55:17 ↗ looking towards

1:55:18 ↗ but it's not clear at the moment that's

1:55:20 ↗ going to be possible if there's no one

1:55:21 ↗ there to collect it

1:55:24 ↗ there's a couple ideas so with compost

1:55:26 ↗ you can

1:55:27 ↗ make your own compost pile talk to your

1:55:29 ↗ facilities department and see if they'd

1:55:31 ↗ be willing to do something along those

1:55:32 ↗ lines and use it

1:55:34 ↗ um wazoo used to do that

1:55:37 ↗ and they used to write they had a class

1:55:39 ↗ all about combos

1:55:44 ↗ but they they used the compost around

1:55:46 ↗ the facility

1:55:48 ↗ in their gardens and whatnot so that was

1:55:50 ↗ one way that they dealt with that

1:55:51 ↗ problem over there because pullman

1:55:53 ↗ doesn't have that collection either

1:55:55 ↗ um downspout disconnection of your

1:55:57 ↗ building if your building has downspouts

1:56:00 ↗ going into the ground then that means

1:56:01 ↗ they're going into the storm water

1:56:02 ↗ system somewhere you could look to

1:56:04 ↗ disconnect those and put that water onto

1:56:06 ↗ the ground

1:56:07 ↗ rather than have it go into the streams

1:56:08 ↗ and lights

1:56:10 ↗ there's lots of little things that can

1:56:12 ↗ be done along those lines

1:56:14 ↗ you might even she have some success

1:56:17 ↗ getting a consultant on board pro bono

1:56:20 ↗ for free

1:56:21 ↗ to come just talk walk around the

1:56:23 ↗ building with you guys and

1:56:27 ↗ they can use it as a

1:56:28 ↗ sales pitch or something along their

1:56:30 ↗ lines

1:56:31 ↗ okay thank you very much yeah that's

1:56:32 ↗ exactly the kind of feedback i'm looking

1:56:34 ↗ for

1:56:35 ↗ i'd also be interested in the same thing

1:56:37 ↗ we just talked about like leaf blower

1:56:39 ↗ like there's all these

1:56:41 ↗ i mean big building improvements might

1:56:42 ↗ be

1:56:43 ↗ tough like i actually think some of the

1:56:45 ↗ lower hanging fruit are like

1:56:47 ↗ yeah are people using gas power

1:56:49 ↗ two-stroke leaf blowers and that those

1:56:51 ↗ types of things like what is the ground

1:56:52 ↗ crew using

1:56:53 ↗ um

1:56:55 ↗ that would be an area i mean

1:56:57 ↗ vehicles are probably tough um

1:57:00 ↗ vehicles and heating and like cooling

1:57:02 ↗ systems would probably be tough that's

1:57:03 ↗ where a lot of the apartments

1:57:06 ↗ um yeah

1:57:10 ↗ led lights

1:57:12 ↗ and um

1:57:14 ↗ but there's timers to make sure that the

1:57:16 ↗ lights are going off if nobody's in

1:57:19 ↗ using it

1:57:21 ↗ towards the bathroom toilets low flush

1:57:24 ↗ toilets

1:57:26 ↗ um

1:57:27 ↗ your sinks that you're basically you

1:57:29 ↗ know your glasses they turn off when

1:57:31 ↗ your hands there

1:57:33 ↗ don't know how they're set up in there

1:57:34 ↗ but i'm sure scotland's pretty high-tech

1:57:50 ↗ some of them are

1:57:53 ↗ yeah and so that's things that you know

1:57:55 ↗ you can bring to the administration

1:57:56 ↗ potentially as improvements

1:57:59 ↗ to the building to be more green

1:58:01 ↗ pse would be more than happy to come in

1:58:03 ↗ and talk with you about your lighting

1:58:06 ↗ yeah and potentially like

1:58:09 ↗ when they need to get a new heater if

1:58:11 ↗ they need to get a new heater and

1:58:13 ↗ switching to a heat pump

1:58:15 ↗ do you have an air conditioner yeah

1:58:18 ↗ yeah so

1:58:19 ↗ they might already have a giant heat

1:58:20 ↗ pump but if not that's something to

1:58:23 ↗ think about

1:58:24 ↗ bring some average plateau water and

1:58:26 ↗ sewer district i assume that supervise

1:58:28 ↗ the water and steward having to do an

1:58:30 ↗ inventory of the fixture counts and what

1:58:32 ↗ could be done to improve it and their

1:58:34 ↗ conservation program could help fund it

1:58:35 ↗ for the for the school district so

1:58:38 ↗ um through cascade water alliance or

1:58:40 ↗ something like that so there's an

1:58:42 ↗ opportunity there if you bring in the um

1:58:44 ↗ water district water district they could

1:58:46 ↗ find place

1:58:49 ↗ thank you so much and maybe like if

1:58:50 ↗ there's natural light coming in

1:58:53 ↗ do you even need to have the lights on

1:58:55 ↗ and stuff like that and then the

1:58:57 ↗ cleaning

1:58:58 ↗ products

1:59:00 ↗ what kind of cleaning products are they

1:59:01 ↗ using

1:59:04 ↗ uh there's a lot of really

1:59:06 ↗ environmental environmentally friendly

1:59:08 ↗ cleaning products out there

1:59:10 ↗ even just vinegar and water works great

1:59:18 ↗ [Laughter]

1:59:29 ↗ the school but the students one thing

1:59:31 ↗ that

1:59:32 ↗ and this is a hard sell i would just be

1:59:35 ↗ interested in

1:59:36 ↗ i would actually be more interested in

1:59:38 ↗ your guys's feedback on like the

1:59:39 ↗ palatability of

1:59:42 ↗ every day i live right now high school

1:59:43 ↗ high school the number of like

1:59:46 ↗ individual cars going to the same place

1:59:49 ↗ and on the bus behind them

1:59:51 ↗ that that seems like an opportunity

1:59:53 ↗ as well and that doesn't involve so

1:59:56 ↗ maybe in some ways with the

1:59:57 ↗ administration but

1:59:59 ↗ that seems like a if there's any like

2:00:02 ↗ that's a behavior change yeah

2:00:04 ↗ opportunity that

2:00:07 ↗ that uh it also would help everybody get

2:00:09 ↗ to school faster and that's definitely

2:00:10 ↗ wrong

2:00:12 ↗ one of the most important things is that

2:00:14 ↗ people could um ride their bicycles

2:00:21 ↗ yeah

2:00:22 ↗ ride the bus

2:00:23 ↗ walk

2:00:24 ↗ it's

2:00:36 ↗ and that's where it could be in our same

2:00:38 ↗ time

2:00:39 ↗ our incentives for certain behavior from

2:00:40 ↗ the school that would be

2:00:42 ↗ i don't know

2:00:44 ↗ yeah a carpooling spot would be one um

2:00:46 ↗ oh yeah up front

2:00:48 ↗ yeah something like that to incentivize

2:00:50 ↗ the right behavior

2:00:52 ↗ we'll find some security for e-bikes if

2:00:54 ↗ you can get the kids to more consider

2:00:56 ↗ riding an e-bike if there's a secure

2:00:58 ↗ place for the bike because i know i just

2:01:00 ↗ get ripped off a lot so

2:01:02 ↗ you know maybe creating some kind of

2:01:03 ↗ locker system for bikes so that

2:01:07 ↗ that's a big expense car's easy to lock

2:01:09 ↗ up a bike is not

2:01:12 ↗ yeah but

2:01:13 ↗ just maybe promote how much more fun it

2:01:16 ↗ is to carpool and go by yourself

2:01:20 ↗ thank you so much all right all right

2:01:23 ↗ any of anything else from anyone

2:01:27 ↗ all right

2:01:29 ↗ all right thanks everyone

2:01:31 ↗ all right great meeting everyone

Approved minutes

Extracted from the next meeting's packet, where this meeting's minutes were approved as a consent-calendar attachment.

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Attendance

Council / Members (9)

Jamie Finch

Don McQuilliams

Nancy Davidson

Rishi Hazra

Cameron Fisher

Anne Newcomb

Ashwin Manoharan

Mathangi Ramanathan, Alternate (Unexcused Absence)

Tom Anderson

Staff (2)

Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager

Billy Almanza, Sustainability Intern

Excused

Dan Hintz

Lara Lebeiko

Janet Wall

Recommendations & actions (2)

Sentences extracted from the narrative containing words like recommended, requested, directed, moved, or approved. Best-effort — verify against the full minutes for context.

The minutes were approved as presented by unanimous consent.
The Board appeared very interested in the program and unanimously agreed to having the pledge come up at a future meeting.