Environmental Board · Tuesday, December 16, 2025 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of November 12, 2025

5 min · packet pp.5–7

▶ Watch from 1:12 Open packet at p.5 ↗

Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 11-12-25 Environmental Board Minutes Page [1] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. November 12, 2025 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. AGENDA ITEMS

2025 Board Report & Self-Analysis (D, A)

15 min · Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager/ Board Liaison Don McQuilliams, Board Chair · packet pp.9–27

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Dec 31, 2021

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Staff report:

Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

Preliminary 2026 Board Workplan

Discussion · 20 min · Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager/Board Liaison · packet pp.29–30

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Staff report:

Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

ICAP Update: Overarching Actions and Materials & Consumption (D)

60 min · Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.31–47

Topics: Climate

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Staff report:

Overarching Actions. The Overarching focus area currently includes several actions around outreach and education, community campaigns, and a selection of municipal actions. Staff are proposing the following revisions to the Overarching focus area: 1. Bring in more of the municipal actions to this focus area and add a municipal target. Proposed municipal targets: Reduce municipal greenhouse gas emissions compared to a 2022 baseline: • 95% and net zero emissions by 2040 By 2040: • x% Light duty fleet that EV (% still under

5. REPORTS

2025 Issaquah Climate Action Report

5 min · packet pp.49–71

Topics: Climate

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Solid Waste Programming Update

5 min · packet pp.73–76

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Staff report:

Public Works 670 1st Ave NE Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

Tree Giveaway Report

5 min · packet pp.77–79

Topics: Trees

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Staff report:

TO: Environmental Board FROM: Dan Hintz and David Reedy RE: Issaquah Tree Giveaway Program DATE: 12/10/25

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0:07 ↗ Um, good evening. Welcome to the

0:10 ↗ December 17th environmental board

0:13 ↗ meeting. Thank you for rearranging your

0:14 ↗ schedules to be able to come tonight.

0:16 ↗ Appreciate it.

0:21 ↗ As usual, if you guys have comments

0:23 ↗ tonight, for those in the room to sign

0:25 ↗ up, for those online, just uh raise your

0:27 ↗ hands. I'll keep an eye on the on the

0:29 ↗ screen there. Um I'll see you there.

0:32 ↗ Stacy will be watching as well.

0:37 ↗ To order, Stacy.

0:38 ↗ >> Sure. Yeah. Go ahead and do roll call.

0:41 ↗ Uh Tommy Anderson

0:42 ↗ >> here.

0:44 ↗ >> Nancy has an excused absence. Tommy has

0:46 ↗ an excused absence. Proj has an excused

0:49 ↗ absence. Karen Pan.

0:52 ↗ >> Uh Mina June.

0:56 ↗ Don Mc Williams

0:57 ↗ >> here.

0:59 ↗ >> Alex Lee Tickner

1:01 ↗ >> here.

1:02 ↗ >> And Nukem

1:03 ↗ >> here.

1:04 ↗ >> Keith Gonzalez

1:05 ↗ >> here.

1:06 ↗ >> John Smith

1:07 ↗ >> here.

1:08 ↗ >> And we have Corum.

1:12 ↗ >> All right. Next up, approval of minutes

1:13 ↗ for November 12th meeting. Any comments

1:16 ↗ on previous minutes?

1:22 ↗ We'll call them further.

1:24 ↗ >> Um, public comments for tonight. Do we

1:26 ↗ have anybody?

1:27 ↗ >> We've received no written comments from

1:30 ↗ board members or members of the public.

1:32 ↗ Um, and we have no members of the public

1:34 ↗ joining online or in the room.

1:37 ↗ >> No public comments. Cool. Right in. Um,

1:40 ↗ so first up is our 2025 board report and

1:43 ↗ selfanalysis. Stacy's going to give us a

1:45 ↗ quick rundown on the what's being

1:47 ↗ submitted and then we're going to take a

1:49 ↗ vote at the end. I don't need to be very

1:52 ↗ formal though just hanging around the

1:54 ↗ group

1:56 ↗ there's any we want to talk about

1:59 ↗ discussion

2:06 ↗ so we have discussed the

2:09 ↗ um the environmental board report a

2:11 ↗ couple of times

2:13 ↗ see if this will let me bring it up um

2:16 ↗ there were no edits made to the report

2:20 ↗ uh Since the last meeting, what we did

2:23 ↗ decide to include

2:26 ↗ um was the final two sections.

2:31 ↗ And Alex, I think you should be able to

2:33 ↗ see appendex A up there. Um but let me

2:35 ↗ know if you're seeing a different

2:36 ↗ document. Um what we did decide to

2:40 ↗ include last meeting was a note around

2:44 ↗ our

2:45 ↗ annual work plan. Just a note that we

2:48 ↗ were incorporating that into this report

2:52 ↗ uh with items we expected to cover in

2:54 ↗ 2026

2:56 ↗ and a note around gaps and concerns

2:59 ↗ particularly around the need for

3:01 ↗ additional city investment in

3:02 ↗ environmental programming, wildlife and

3:06 ↗ as well as continued interest and

3:08 ↗ engagement with the school district.

3:09 ↗ These were things that were requested to

3:11 ↗ add into the 2020 core report and um at

3:15 ↗ our last meeting the board supported

3:18 ↗ continuing to include those in the 2025

3:20 ↗ report. Um but otherwise the report goes

3:24 ↗ through the eight duties as outlined in

3:27 ↗ city code summarizes our meeting

3:30 ↗ schedule and agenda topics from this

3:31 ↗ last year.

3:33 ↗ um includes the two letters of

3:36 ↗ recommendations that we submitted to um

3:38 ↗ PPC and city council.

3:44 ↗ Um it has the full results of the self

3:47 ↗ analysis that you all participated in

3:51 ↗ several pages.

3:53 ↗ Um,

3:55 ↗ I think that in particular this year

3:57 ↗ will be really beneficial for the mayor

3:59 ↗ elect to review since he'll be new to

4:02 ↗ working with the board. And then we have

4:04 ↗ our proposed work plan for 2026 which

4:07 ↗ we'll be discussing in more detail in a

4:08 ↗ few minutes.

4:11 ↗ That is the report. Any questions or are

4:15 ↗ there any um proposed revisions to that

4:18 ↗ report?

4:20 ↗ 26 word plan where we're going to try to

4:22 ↗ include conversation that Nancy asked

4:25 ↗ about streams versus digits.

4:28 ↗ >> I was that request didn't formally come

4:30 ↗ up at a board meeting. So I was thinking

4:32 ↗ we could discuss that at our next topic

4:34 ↗ and I can include that in what is

4:36 ↗ submitted for more the formal review to

4:40 ↗ the mayor and leadership or our next

4:43 ↗ topic is on the work plan. So we can

4:44 ↗ discuss that in more detail

4:49 ↗ >> that um is there any changes that people

4:51 ↗ would like to see to

5:00 ↗ start the vote and say yeses

5:05 ↗ all the way around the room. Alex, do

5:07 ↗ you agree?

5:13 ↗ All right, consensus.

5:15 ↗ >> Okay, great. And then next steps on that

5:17 ↗ is I'll be sending it to the mayor and

5:20 ↗ Mary this week and then it will go into

5:22 ↗ the council packet um for their January

5:25 ↗ 5th meeting.

5:30 ↗ >> So I was just looking up here

5:33 ↗ no longer has access to the chat.

5:36 ↗ >> She I think that's from the last

5:37 ↗ meeting. It's confu. It um continues on

5:41 ↗ from the last meeting because we have

5:42 ↗ the same team. So, she was not able. She

5:45 ↗ let me know this afternoon she couldn't

5:46 ↗ join today. So, that was probably just

5:48 ↗ when she signed off at the last meeting.

5:50 ↗ Yeah. Thank you for looking at that. So,

6:00 ↗ >> right into the 2026 work plan. and Stace

6:04 ↗ is going to run through this with us

6:08 ↗ and have a discussion.

6:09 ↗ >> Okay, great.

6:12 ↗ All right. Um, so this not next topic is

6:16 ↗ just to look ahead at our next year's

6:19 ↗ work plan. Um,

6:21 ↗ since we do have a new mayor coming in,

6:25 ↗ um, the mayor will be reviewing work

6:27 ↗ plans from the boards and commission and

6:29 ↗ providing feedback to ensure they align

6:31 ↗ with, um, priorities for the mayor and

6:33 ↗ council and what they would like the

6:35 ↗ boards and commissions to be working on

6:37 ↗ next year. Um, so this is a preliminary

6:40 ↗ work plan and I'll be taking the

6:42 ↗ feedback from the board tonight to

6:43 ↗ incorporate into that work plan. Um so

6:46 ↗ the three questions to you all are there

6:49 ↗ proposed additional topics that um you

6:52 ↗ would like to include? Are there topics

6:54 ↗ you don't want to talk talk about and we

6:56 ↗ should remove? And then sort of a side

7:00 ↗ conversation that we wanted to have was

7:04 ↗ are there specific topics proposed for

7:06 ↗ next year that we should look at

7:08 ↗ engaging other members of our community

7:10 ↗ whether through an advisory group um or

7:14 ↗ other format as proposed by the board.

7:18 ↗ This is in some ways um of a followup to

7:22 ↗ uh Dixiey's departure and wanting to

7:25 ↗ find other opportunities for committee

7:28 ↗ members that maybe can't commit to fully

7:30 ↗ engaging in the board but still bring

7:32 ↗ expertise and passion around the topics

7:34 ↗ and we want to find ways to engage them.

7:37 ↗ Um so thought we could at least start

7:38 ↗ that conversation tonight as we're

7:40 ↗ looking at the potential topics for the

7:43 ↗ board to look on next year.

7:46 ↗ So, I'll just provide a quick rundown of

7:50 ↗ what staff have put together for next

7:53 ↗ year. Um, a lot of it focuses on the

7:56 ↗ IAAP update for the next several months.

7:59 ↗ Um, potentially a couple special

8:01 ↗ meetings as we work to bring you all

8:04 ↗ sections of the IAAP. Um, as we're do

8:07 ↗ starting tonight,

8:09 ↗ um, we are also finishing our 2024

8:14 ↗ greenhouse gas inventory. So, we'll be

8:16 ↗ sharing that with the board. Um, as we

8:19 ↗ do each year, our public works team will

8:22 ↗ be bringing the storm water plan to you.

8:25 ↗ This is going to be uh done at the same

8:27 ↗ time that it's open for public comment.

8:29 ↗ So, it's opportunity for the board to

8:31 ↗ weigh in and help shape that plan. We

8:34 ↗ have a couple policies that we may be

8:37 ↗ working on next year. Um, one is from

8:41 ↗ funding that Sam, our solid waste

8:43 ↗ analyst, received. She's going to be

8:46 ↗ looking at a compostable serviceware

8:48 ↗ requirement um for uh food serving

8:52 ↗ businesses in our community. Um this is

8:55 ↗ timeline is tentative depending on how

8:57 ↗ that policy shapes up but we are

9:00 ↗ thinking early conversation in the

9:02 ↗ spring and then that would be coming

9:03 ↗ back to the board um further on. Um

9:07 ↗ other potential policies would include

9:09 ↗ revisiting our sustainable building

9:12 ↗ requirements in the city's land use

9:14 ↗ code. Right now we have requirements

9:17 ↗ around lead platinum for buildings of a

9:19 ↗ above a certain size. we want to expand

9:22 ↗ that um into other certification or

9:27 ↗ other opportunities. So we're not just

9:29 ↗ focused on lead but there are other

9:31 ↗ avenues to achieve sustainable building

9:34 ↗ uh certification within the city.

9:37 ↗ Um, and then other items, uh, having

9:41 ↗ check-ins with Dan on the urban forest

9:43 ↗ management plan,

9:45 ↗ um, natural systems checklist check-in,

9:48 ↗ and then some of our administrative

9:50 ↗ pieces here, such as board elections,

9:53 ↗ um, and the report. There are likely to

9:56 ↗ be many other topics that come out

9:58 ↗ throughout the year, but these are the

10:00 ↗ ones that we've, um, at least know are

10:02 ↗ coming and have put into the calendar

10:05 ↗ for now. Um, I was mentioning folks

10:08 ↗ earlier too, we're hoping to do a couple

10:09 ↗ other field trips this year. If you all

10:12 ↗ are aware of a great opportunity for the

10:14 ↗ board to go on a field trip or do a site

10:16 ↗ visit, you can let us know and we'll

10:18 ↗ work to get that scheduled.

10:22 ↗ So, that's a snapshot of 26. Wanted to

10:25 ↗ now see if there are additional items

10:28 ↗ that folks want to ensure this board

10:32 ↗ addresses next year. um or items that

10:35 ↗ we're proposing that you all think we

10:38 ↗ should remove from our

10:45 ↗ >> Now the discussion that NY's requested

10:47 ↗ of us to talk about streams versus

10:49 ↗ ditches, how they're classified

10:53 ↗ during construction. I don't know

10:58 ↗ what we could do with that information

10:59 ↗ if that would influence title 18

11:05 ↗ start the discussion

11:11 ↗ um something I remember that James

11:13 ↗ brought up quite a bit was

11:16 ↗ discussing this last year

11:19 ↗ that current I don't know incorporate

11:21 ↗ that next year but I think it's worth

11:23 ↗ considering

11:26 ↗ There are specific topics around

11:28 ↗ wildlife. I know this board has talked

11:30 ↗ about kind of wildlife corridors in the

11:32 ↗ past.

11:34 ↗ If the IAP's looking at a dark sky

11:37 ↗ initiative, there could be wildlife

11:38 ↗ considerations. Is there anything in

11:40 ↗ particular around wildlife or anything?

11:45 ↗ I think you do a lot of

11:48 ↗ >> Okay. And that could even start with

11:52 ↗ how is the city what does the city do

11:54 ↗ around wildlife in terms of education

11:56 ↗ and outreach and um and then we could go

12:00 ↗ from there and see. Okay.

12:03 ↗ Uh maybe the most closest fit to that

12:06 ↗ would be the urban forest management

12:08 ↗ plan date.

12:11 ↗ And I know having participated with the

12:14 ↗ field trip here a few weeks ago,

12:18 ↗ managing the forest for habitat for

12:21 ↗ wildlife is

12:23 ↗ things they look for.

12:28 ↗ That's at least in part.

12:31 ↗ Next

12:36 ↗ to to garbage and wildlife. I think we

12:40 ↗ talked that

12:42 ↗ we could get

12:44 ↗ encourage people somehow, you know, to

12:47 ↗ follow those practices.

12:49 ↗ >> Great.

12:50 ↗ >> Um, yes. And then Sam's solid waste

12:52 ↗ memo, which is attached, I can pull it

12:54 ↗ up later. Um, she provided a summary of

12:58 ↗ some of the data we've collected over

12:59 ↗ the last year on that. So there could be

13:02 ↗ a good follow-up conversation. I know we

13:04 ↗ had talked about wanting to circle back

13:06 ↗ and see if there were any kinds of

13:08 ↗ policies or other education that would

13:12 ↗ be needed.

13:14 ↗ >> Recology is still working with you guys

13:15 ↗ on, you know, barriers overturns, how

13:19 ↗ they interact,

13:20 ↗ the folks that put those cams out.

13:22 ↗ >> Yeah, they tagged I think all it's in

13:25 ↗ Sam's report. I think it was all homes

13:27 ↗ on Squawk and in Oldtown. They take

13:29 ↗ those um in the spring before fair

13:33 ↗ season. Um and then we have Seclick Fix.

13:37 ↗ The city's reporting system is set up

13:40 ↗ for where folks can report if they see

13:43 ↗ um cans overturned and when there's

13:45 ↗ repeat offenders, those staff have been

13:48 ↗ sending out letters um to those homes.

13:51 ↗ Um, we've only had a few reports on

13:52 ↗ Cclick Fix. Um, and I can peek at Sam's

13:56 ↗ report. I think it was Savings or

13:58 ↗ something. And I think four of those I

13:59 ↗ probably submitted from going around.

14:02 ↗ Um, so that's something I think we'd

14:04 ↗ like to educate people that if you see

14:07 ↗ hands overturn, please record them

14:09 ↗ because we need that data to see where

14:11 ↗ there's kind of repeat offenders or we

14:13 ↗ can make sure that we're going out and

14:15 ↗ doing that um, education. So that would

14:17 ↗ be a great one to talk about and see

14:19 ↗ where you can do some more outreach.

14:30 ↗ The question about the storm water plan

14:32 ↗ in March, I'm assuming part of that

14:34 ↗ conversation is going to be in light of

14:37 ↗ the storms and everything that's

14:39 ↗ happened. I guess I was wondering if you

14:42 ↗ already have the information on what

14:44 ↗ that conversation's supposed to look

14:45 ↗ like.

14:47 ↗ Yeah, that's a good question. This and

14:49 ↗ uh Don probably will know though this is

14:51 ↗ the required annual update of the plan.

14:54 ↗ Um this is called a national flute

14:56 ↗ discharge elimination system permit.

14:58 ↗ It's a permit that allows you to

14:59 ↗ discharge storm water state and you're

15:02 ↗ required to do an annual update to it

15:05 ↗ due at the end of March. All cities are

15:08 ↗ um this plan is basically coming to us

15:11 ↗ to say here's the update we've done last

15:13 ↗ year.

15:16 ↗ >> Would you be interested in kind of more

15:18 ↗ the resilient

15:20 ↗ like hearing from our emergency manager?

15:23 ↗ I think, you know, I don't know about

15:24 ↗ the kind of nitty-gritty details of what

15:26 ↗ that annual review is supposed to look

15:27 ↗ like, but it could be a good opportunity

15:29 ↗ for us to engage with the yeah the

15:31 ↗ resilience of the plan.

15:33 ↗ Why did they do that through potential?

15:36 ↗ Are

15:36 ↗ >> you looking for something more? So, kind

15:38 ↗ of a summary of the recent storms, how

15:41 ↗ the city reacted to it.

15:42 ↗ >> Yeah, exactly. That need isn't already

15:44 ↗ done by another committee. I think it's

15:45 ↗ important to talk about um as an

15:48 ↗ advising board, but yeah, that seems

15:52 ↗ Maybe that could listening session for

15:55 ↗ us with nothing else.

15:56 ↗ >> I wonder if that could be um folded into

16:00 ↗ the climate action plan.

16:05 ↗ >> Yeah.

16:06 ↗ >> Stacy, I'm thinking maybe sooner rather

16:08 ↗ than later.

16:10 ↗ >> Yeah. And I'm thinking maybe ahead of

16:12 ↗ the storm water plan in case there's

16:15 ↗ considerations that come out of that

16:17 ↗ that would be appropriate for that plan.

16:19 ↗ and as you all are looking at the

16:22 ↗ proposed revisions to the IAP community

16:24 ↗ resilient section. So yeah, I'll talk to

16:28 ↗ Jared, our emergency manager, but

16:29 ↗ there's no other board or commission

16:32 ↗ that um besides the council committees

16:34 ↗ that he regularly presents to

16:46 ↗ >> topics you all would not want to see.

17:04 ↗ one thing that it's more not something I

17:07 ↗ don't want to see, but um it's kind of

17:10 ↗ general too. I just uh it seems like

17:12 ↗ with a lot of environmental regulations

17:14 ↗ at the federal level falling away. Um I

17:17 ↗ don't really have specifics like the

17:20 ↗ Clean Water Act has things that might

17:22 ↗ need to be met by the state now. And I

17:24 ↗ guess I just uh I wonder if there's uh

17:26 ↗ municipal associations that are trying

17:28 ↗ to meet any needs that we can that we

17:31 ↗ the city is engaging with that we can

17:33 ↗ hear about weigh in on um just

17:35 ↗ regulatory uh you know gas that need to

17:39 ↗ be filled.

17:40 ↗ Some of this might already fall under

17:42 ↗ that.

17:44 ↗ >> Yeah.

17:45 ↗ >> Yeah.

17:48 ↗ Think about who we'd be able to meet. I

17:50 ↗ think we're sure

17:55 ↗ is looking into reddrafting the waters

17:57 ↗ of the state definition. That's what I

17:59 ↗ was think

18:05 ↗ >> standard

18:07 ↗ reduction of the greenhouse gas

18:10 ↗ there. So yeah, there's a lot. Let me

18:12 ↗ think who might be.

18:26 ↗ Anything else?

18:36 ↗ And if other topics are coming up

18:38 ↗ throughout the year, those can always be

18:40 ↗ brought up during board meetings or send

18:42 ↗ them to me and we can um bring them for

18:44 ↗ discussion if the wants to put that on

18:47 ↗ an agenda. And of course, I'll I'll I

18:50 ↗ will circle back with our clerks and the

18:52 ↗ mayor as well.

18:54 ↗ Um, are there a topic and this doesn't

18:57 ↗ necessarily have to be specifically

18:58 ↗ related to the work plan that or if

19:01 ↗ there's general thoughts about how we

19:04 ↗ might go about engaging other members of

19:06 ↗ the community that don't have the time

19:10 ↗ to commit to being on the board but have

19:13 ↗ the passion, interest, expertise, are

19:15 ↗ there partic particular topics that we

19:18 ↗ might engage them in or do you all have

19:21 ↗ general ideas about how

19:24 ↗ bring folks into the work of this board.

19:29 ↗ So, you're talking about

19:33 ↗ non board members. So, just bringing the

19:36 ↗ community into What about having a

19:39 ↗ gathering and inviting?

19:42 ↗ >> Yeah. Doesn't have to be a potluck.

19:45 ↗ Probably

19:47 ↗ some fun picnic or something and invite

19:49 ↗ the community

19:49 ↗ >> summer picnic or something.

19:51 ↗ >> Yeah.

19:56 ↗ you do the sustainability

20:00 ↗ >> event

20:02 ↗ or some other

20:09 ↗ >> the sustainability fair

20:10 ↗ >> yeah that was great

20:13 ↗ >> Alex

20:15 ↗ >> yeah I think it'd be good to have

20:17 ↗ business owners come in and and consult

20:20 ↗ on the compostable service wear

20:22 ↗ >> topic and be able to provide feedback on

20:25 ↗ the realistic implementation of a

20:28 ↗ program like that.

20:29 ↗ >> Um, and similarly with the sustainable

20:31 ↗ building requirements, maybe have some

20:33 ↗ developers or someone come in with that

20:35 ↗ kind of expertise to talk about how the

20:38 ↗ impacts of of these policies would be

20:41 ↗ implemented.

20:44 ↗ >> The district have a business group that

20:47 ↗ gets together on a regular basis. We

20:49 ↗ have the economic vitality commission.

20:52 ↗ Um

20:54 ↗ >> owners can actually get together and

20:56 ↗ talk.

20:57 ↗ >> There's the chamber.

20:59 ↗ >> Maybe start there.

21:03 ↗ >> Yeah, absolutely. Um yeah, I think as we

21:07 ↗ look at any policies moving forward in

21:09 ↗ the IAP, yeah, we can engage with the

21:11 ↗ chamber um depending on the topic. I

21:14 ↗ think that's a great suggestion, Alex,

21:16 ↗ too, to bring in some folks so that the

21:18 ↗ board can hear directly from them as

21:21 ↗ they provide their feedback on a draft

21:24 ↗ policy. So,

21:28 ↗ >> any ideas on how to get our agenda in

21:31 ↗ front of the public?

21:34 ↗ >> Right now, it's just put on the

21:38 ↗ boards of commissions page. Who looks at

21:41 ↗ that? How often?

21:44 ↗ Maybe on the the hotter topics, the

21:47 ↗ compostable serviceware,

21:50 ↗ the building requirements. Is there

21:52 ↗ something that we could push out to the

21:53 ↗ basic website assoc

21:58 ↗ right? It's

21:59 ↗ >> a good idea. Yeah. Or through especially

22:01 ↗ around some of those policies. I could

22:03 ↗ see if our economic development team,

22:05 ↗ they have pretty robust listeners to

22:08 ↗ businesses. Maybe there's topics that

22:10 ↗ could go out there.

22:12 ↗ big enough topic going to city

22:14 ↗ newsletter maybe

22:17 ↗ often the city newsletter

22:19 ↗ >> weekly every Friday. Yeah, but maybe

22:21 ↗ like the IAP update.

22:23 ↗ >> Yeah, I'll talk to our communications

22:25 ↗ team and see. I don't know if I've

22:27 ↗ necessarily seen that for other boards

22:28 ↗ and commissions, but I think that's a

22:30 ↗ great suggestion just to get more.

22:33 ↗ >> Seems like we get the same faces over

22:35 ↗ and over.

22:37 ↗ Nice to see some show.

22:43 ↗ Um I I know we have our youth members.

22:46 ↗ Um I wonder if there's more we can do to

22:49 ↗ try to engage students um in high school

22:52 ↗ or or at the college level.

22:54 ↗ >> I was going to say the youth report. So

22:56 ↗ I can even say that now.

22:59 ↗ >> Uh so it came to my attention that

23:01 ↗ there's a new class that is called

23:03 ↗ environmental engineering. And from what

23:05 ↗ I know because apparently class it was

23:08 ↗ called sustainable design. It's a very

23:10 ↗ project oriented class and I know they

23:12 ↗ do a lot of like community service and

23:13 ↗ such. So I was thinking about talking to

23:15 ↗ the teacher about actually like bringing

23:17 ↗ them forward as some kind of way they

23:19 ↗ could like present projects or attend

23:22 ↗ the meeting as well just to

23:27 ↗ I think I don't think it'll be a

23:28 ↗ terrible idea to get more people

23:30 ↗ although they're kind

23:35 ↗ >> yeah the entire class is based off like

23:37 ↗ you kind of refine projects over the

23:39 ↗ and then eventually present them.

23:49 ↗ >> Well, kind of in that vein. So, one of

23:52 ↗ our topics for tonight is the solid

23:54 ↗ waste report and we chatted beforehand

23:58 ↗ here. So I I looked at that in a fair

24:00 ↗ amount of detail the last two days and

24:03 ↗ observed from that in the uh

24:08 ↗ dashboard that over the last five years

24:11 ↗ our our recycling level has been flat

24:14 ↗ and we we were at we're at about 38%

24:18 ↗ diversion from the waist stream has been

24:21 ↗ about that over the last five years and

24:24 ↗ we want to get to 70% five years from

24:26 ↗ now. What are we going to do different

24:29 ↗ to accomplish it? It's not going to

24:30 ↗ happen by wishful thinking or just more

24:33 ↗ of the same. It's going to take some

24:35 ↗ bold steps to get there. And maybe we

24:38 ↗ need bold steps uh with inspiration from

24:42 ↗ young people,

24:47 ↗ old age.

24:52 ↗ Is that the kind of topic that is

24:54 ↗ brought up in this environmental

24:56 ↗ engineering context of um ways to raise

25:01 ↗ the bar recycling

25:04 ↗ >> the idea of the class is pretty much

25:05 ↗ like you kind of they do a lot of like

25:07 ↗ educating like this is how you can

25:08 ↗ recycle materials more efficiently. So

25:10 ↗ like how do you reuse materials to make

25:12 ↗ certain other things? So it is kind of a

25:14 ↗ topic they introduce a lot of they're

25:16 ↗ very independent to kind of do whatever

25:18 ↗ they want for the projects. So I think

25:19 ↗ depending on the students they may be

25:21 ↗ more interested in

25:25 ↗ I haven't taken the class I have friends

25:26 ↗ who have so I can talk to them more

25:28 ↗ about that they do have classes run but

25:31 ↗ I I don't currently have a teacher

25:33 ↗ chemistry class so it

25:38 ↗ >> does the school do any measurements

25:40 ↗ metrics of recyclable rates recyclable

25:44 ↗ materials versus garbage

25:48 ↗ um that I know of. I do know we've been

25:50 ↗ making an effort to make our school

25:51 ↗ events more sustainable. I think if you

25:53 ↗ remember Duncan Fischer, he talked about

25:55 ↗ um he was the president last year and he

25:58 ↗ was or he helped throw an event for

26:00 ↗ school dance for all the materials for

26:03 ↗ recyclable materials. We didn't use

26:06 ↗ anything else like plastic music

26:09 ↗ materials. So I think there's stuff like

26:12 ↗ that that we do. I don't know if there's

26:13 ↗ actual data

26:15 ↗ of that. I don't really know what we

26:17 ↗ plan on that as well.

26:20 ↗ >> Well, I think the least that

26:25 ↗ leading by example, we we had an event

26:29 ↗ and here are the stats for this

26:30 ↗ particular event. How many pounds of

26:32 ↗ recyclable material was generated versus

26:36 ↗ how many pounds actually went into the

26:38 ↗ landfill. Okay, businesses

26:42 ↗ uh step up to the plate here and and try

26:45 ↗ to equal this. Our restaurants

26:49 ↗ uh could do better in terms of waste

26:53 ↗ generated

26:56 ↗ food options

26:59 ↗ and uh

27:01 ↗ sounds like program school would be a

27:05 ↗ good example to look at. I don't know.

27:08 ↗ It's things like that that that are

27:09 ↗ needed to really uh raise the bar, get

27:13 ↗ people on board to do

27:17 ↗ make systemic change that will

27:21 ↗ get us incrementally towards that goal.

27:23 ↗ If we don't make systemic change, we're

27:26 ↗ not for sure.

27:31 ↗ >> Does Sam or college have that program

27:34 ↗ there?

27:36 ↗ I made a note to check with her. I know

27:38 ↗ when we have um we had a contractor that

27:41 ↗ was working very closely with the school

27:42 ↗ district and they were um tracking the

27:46 ↗ amount of waste generated um and using

27:48 ↗ some technology to see how full the cans

27:51 ↗ were. So, let me follow up with Sam. I

27:53 ↗ believe that there is,

27:57 ↗ >> you know, might be interesting to get

28:00 ↗ recall if you could do a tour for

28:03 ↗ this class,

28:05 ↗ you know.

28:07 ↗ a tour

28:09 ↗ >> recycling.

28:11 ↗ >> It's very educational

28:12 ↗ >> and that we're doing that with our

28:14 ↗ Gibson interns and I'll share that with

28:17 ↗ the board if if able to, but that's

28:20 ↗ something that we can help arrange if

28:21 ↗ that class is interested.

28:23 ↗ >> I also may talk to the biomedical

28:26 ↗ science teacher. I don't really know

28:27 ↗ what that class entails. I don't really

28:28 ↗ know who's taking that, but I'm sure

28:30 ↗ it's better way to start off.

28:40 ↗ Yes. So, um Karen, you brought up uh

28:44 ↗ your class

28:47 ↗ high school and you brought up colleges.

28:50 ↗ So, this made makes me think that maybe

28:52 ↗ if we went to BCC or some other colleges

28:56 ↗ maybe. Are there any other colleges

28:58 ↗ around here that people attend, right?

29:03 ↗ Who's um

29:06 ↗ one up in Samish?

29:07 ↗ >> Oh,

29:08 ↗ >> central. Is there central?

29:10 ↗ >> It's a central extension campus.

29:11 ↗ >> Well, maybe they also have classes

29:15 ↗ or classes that we could connect with,

29:20 ↗ reach out to, and see if there's some

29:22 ↗ collaborations. Green River College

29:31 ↗ just about there. And then

29:33 ↗ Mommy, you said something. I should

29:34 ↗ break it down maybe.

29:40 ↗ >> Yeah. So, as far as the the businesses,

29:43 ↗ um it seems like there's probably a lot

29:44 ↗ of

29:46 ↗ garbage that we could um the businesses

29:50 ↗ produce that could get um sent in a

29:53 ↗ different direction. So does um does

29:56 ↗ Cleanscapes work with businesses

30:00 ↗ so that they can easily you know recycle

30:02 ↗ their styrofoam and different things

30:04 ↗ that scapes?

30:06 ↗ >> Yeah. Um I Sam was not able to make it

30:10 ↗ tonight, but um that is

30:14 ↗ um one of the priorities that they've

30:16 ↗ had this year and going forward is

30:19 ↗ working with commercial as well as

30:20 ↗ continuing to work with multifamily on

30:23 ↗ recycling and composting in particular.

30:26 ↗ Um I believe we have pretty good

30:31 ↗ um recycling. So she set a goal. We're

30:34 ↗ at 90% of commercial businesses have

30:36 ↗ recycling. She set a goal to get to 100%

30:39 ↗ next year. Um compost is pretty low for

30:42 ↗ commercial businesses, but she has a 80%

30:45 ↗ goal um for next year. Um and then she

30:48 ↗ talks a little bit about the work that

30:50 ↗ they're doing with them. Um so that is a

30:53 ↗ a major focus and we can look at the

30:56 ↗ tonight we'll be looking at the revised

30:59 ↗ actions in the IAP for um materials and

31:03 ↗ resources and so if there's any way we

31:06 ↗ strengthen those we could do that but

31:08 ↗ nice

31:09 ↗ >> yeah we were talking about this earlier

31:11 ↗ um that it'd be nice if the businesses

31:14 ↗ could have that sell things that have

31:18 ↗ items that Redwell will pick up for

31:20 ↗ instance like styrofoam, the

31:23 ↗ plastic, we could just take it back to

31:25 ↗ like Lowe's,

31:26 ↗ >> Home Depot and all the different costs,

31:29 ↗ the different places we collect,

31:32 ↗ you know, and then maybe cleanes it out

31:34 ↗ from there.

31:35 ↗ >> And then One Green Planet, I don't know

31:37 ↗ if you guys know about them, but they do

31:39 ↗ um electronic they do all sorts of

31:41 ↗ recycling, but electron they do a lot of

31:44 ↗ electronics recycling for businesses.

31:53 ↗ It's widely known that QFC has a

31:55 ↗ receptacle for a plastic film, plastic

31:58 ↗ bags to be recycled.

32:00 ↗ >> That's something out.

32:02 ↗ >> Yeah, absolutely. So, I just learned

32:04 ↗ that tonight.

32:06 ↗ >> At least they want to recycle. Yeah.

32:07 ↗ >> Yeah. And Recology does do at least

32:10 ↗ residential pickups, I know, for

32:12 ↗ Styrofone and other hard to recycle

32:14 ↗ items. I'm not I don't know whether

32:16 ↗ that's also offered for multif family or

32:18 ↗ commercial, but I can check with Sam on

32:20 ↗ that and if that's something to

32:22 ↗ recommend

32:24 ↗ that could be negotiated in the future.

32:26 ↗ >> Yeah, I have friends that have a

32:29 ↗ business right next to Recology, but

32:31 ↗ they can't recycle their stuff there

32:33 ↗ because they're a business and they they

32:35 ↗ live as snowy.

32:36 ↗ >> Yeah.

32:36 ↗ >> I can't recycle.

32:39 ↗ >> You have to have a

32:41 ↗ really Yeah.

32:43 ↗ >> No.

32:45 ↗ So that that kind of triggers me and

32:47 ↗ that we we we pay money to recology to

32:54 ↗ help us recycle and they come up with

32:57 ↗ stupid rules about why we're not

33:00 ↗ recycling. That has to change if we want

33:03 ↗ to accomplish goals.

33:04 ↗ >> Yes.

33:05 ↗ >> Recycling more.

33:07 ↗ >> I mean I went in there one day.

33:11 ↗ >> I had some electronics to recycle. one

33:13 ↗ of which was a CD player may you you

33:18 ↗ older people CD uh that was you know for

33:22 ↗ the household and another was a deck for

33:25 ↗ cargo they accepted the household CD

33:29 ↗ player they would not accept the deck

33:30 ↗ for the car because that's automotive

33:32 ↗ electronics and by go by we don't accept

33:34 ↗ that what a ridiculous rule Adams so

33:38 ↗ let's see if we can figure out a way to

33:40 ↗ not help you recycle That is not right.

33:46 ↗ Uh the styrofoam thing

33:50 ↗ I'm not happy with either. Okay. Yes,

33:53 ↗ they'll accept styrofoam. So, I

33:55 ↗ attempted to use that once and I put it

33:57 ↗ out there and I alerted them. I I I did

34:01 ↗ something wrong. Sure. I didn't get the

34:03 ↗ notice in on time or something, but they

34:05 ↗ didn't pick up.

34:08 ↗ So, I I threw it in the creek.

34:14 ↗ I did. Shame on me. I put it in the

34:17 ↗ waist stream the next day out of the

34:19 ↗ frustration. But I should have harder.

34:22 ↗ But the point is it should be as easy to

34:25 ↗ recycle things as it is to not recycle

34:29 ↗ and we're not done.

34:32 ↗ So I know

34:34 ↗ well I don't know what the right the

34:36 ↗ best solution for recology is on the

34:39 ↗ styrofoam thing. I think if there were

34:41 ↗ more places that I regularly go to that

34:44 ↗ accepted style, that would be a help.

34:48 ↗ So, for example, QFC. All right, I bring

34:50 ↗ my plastic bags to QFC. I can't bring my

34:53 ↗ styrofoam. Well, maybe we should require

34:57 ↗ them or at least encourage stores like

35:00 ↗ that that we go to regularly to accept

35:03 ↗ such things. Now I have brought

35:05 ↗ styrofoam to the recology store village

35:08 ↗ but I don't go there on a regular basis

35:11 ↗ like infrequently

35:13 ↗ um and that's a special trip to bring it

35:16 ↗ there. I'm not going there for some

35:18 ↗ other reason. It needs to be to some

35:21 ↗ place that I go to every week with like

35:23 ↗ a grocery store. And okay, maybe the

35:26 ↗ city needs to provide an incentive for

35:30 ↗ them to have a little more recycling

35:33 ↗ presence

35:34 ↗ in their store or maybe not an incentive

35:38 ↗ requirement

35:41 ↗ to make something like that happen.

35:45 ↗ Uh so I don't know. I've been I've been

35:48 ↗ pondering this over the last clean

35:53 ↗ report kind of cleared me off from going

35:56 ↗ down rabbit holes and and so some

35:58 ↗ municipalities are more successful than

36:00 ↗ others in this and one of the methods

36:03 ↗ used by those that are more successful

36:06 ↗ they mandate

36:07 ↗ you know they mandate

36:10 ↗ okay now with that they mandate

36:13 ↗ recyclable food

36:16 ↗ containers etc. So by that's one way

36:22 ↗ we mandate

36:25 ↗ that's what we need. I've often thought

36:27 ↗ it would be great with places like Home

36:29 ↗ Depot, Lowe's, Best Buy, you know they

36:32 ↗ they start everything by they just had a

36:35 ↗ bin where you could come back and just

36:37 ↗ toss it in the bin and they work with

36:40 ↗ recology.

36:43 ↗ Yeah, they have bins for specific

36:46 ↗ things, plastic bags, batteries,

36:50 ↗ and compact fluorescent bulbs.

36:54 ↗ So all right sele

36:58 ↗ often bulkier

37:00 ↗ bigger bin but it would be a small

37:02 ↗ addition to

37:09 ↗ think that's that's the wild

37:15 ↗ yeah another approach is working what

37:17 ↗ they've done with batteries and paint is

37:19 ↗ working with the producers and it's on

37:22 ↗ their responsibility then to see that

37:24 ↗ those products are recycled. Um, and we

37:27 ↗ have some language in the IAP around

37:29 ↗ that. But I'm excited to dig into the

37:31 ↗ IAP actions in a minute. Tom's fired up

37:34 ↗ and has a lot of ideas.

37:37 ↗ Yeah,

37:42 ↗ maybe

37:44 ↗ >> I really like the the topic that that u

37:49 ↗ going to come up about reusable or

37:52 ↗ plastic service wear. We should put some

37:55 ↗ emphasis on that this year.

37:57 ↗ >> Um maybe um

38:01 ↗ think of ways that the city could

38:02 ↗ promote

38:04 ↗ um among the general public reduction of

38:08 ↗ reduce consumption single plastics

38:11 ↗ somehow you know we talk a lot about

38:14 ↗ recycling difficulty there but we need

38:16 ↗ to we can reduce the consump consumption

38:19 ↗ through messaging through the school

38:22 ↗ system through classes and through the

38:26 ↗ sustainability fair we could have a

38:28 ↗ table that just talks about um

38:32 ↗ reducing consumption

38:38 ↗ I'll take this.

38:42 ↗ >> Great. Um, yeah, I heard some great

38:44 ↗ suggestions for additions to the work

38:47 ↗ plan, so I'll incorporate those in as,

38:49 ↗ uh, requests from the board. And then,

38:52 ↗ um, thank you for the conversation on

38:53 ↗ other ways for engaging in the

38:55 ↗ community.

38:57 ↗ Some great suggestions there about

38:58 ↗ around businesses, general engagement. I

39:01 ↗ like the summer picnic idea. I know PCA

39:04 ↗ does that. Could be nice one just to

39:06 ↗ invite folks in in a more casual

39:08 ↗ setting. And then the ideas around high

39:11 ↗ school and college engagement

39:13 ↗ on this.

39:16 ↗ >> Well, that's you could potentially come

39:19 ↗ up with

39:20 ↗ >> that you could give businesses

39:22 ↗ >> for

39:25 ↗ doing well.

39:26 ↗ >> Yeah.

39:26 ↗ >> With reduction solid waste.

39:29 ↗ >> Yes. and then giving them like a you

39:32 ↗ know take care

39:37 ↗ a grocery store a fast food restaurant

39:45 ↗ >> love it

39:46 ↗ give them give them like an award that

39:49 ↗ they can hang up on their their

39:53 ↗ business

39:55 ↗ >> a champagne tour

39:56 ↗ >> yeah used to be that it would be yearly

39:59 ↗ by

40:01 ↗ >> Yeah,

40:02 ↗ >> there used to be an Envirro stars award

40:04 ↗ they do in the county but

40:08 ↗ >> yeah but something but it could be

40:10 ↗ related to our policy. We've done that

40:11 ↗ with the clean buildings program where

40:13 ↗ we have kind of ambassador businesses

40:15 ↗ property owners. Yeah. doing something

40:17 ↗ like that to really highlight who's out

40:19 ↗ in front

40:20 ↗ >> so that other people can see it and u

40:25 ↗ stimulates the conversation.

40:26 ↗ >> Great.

40:34 ↗ >> All right. Thank you for all the

40:36 ↗ feedback on that. I will make some

40:38 ↗ additions to the work plan and then

40:40 ↗ follow up on the outreach opportunities.

40:44 ↗ Okay.

40:47 ↗ With that, we'll move on. So, Stacy's

40:49 ↗ gonna update. She's asked that we keep

40:53 ↗ our comments to ourselves until she

40:56 ↗ finishes and she

41:07 ↗ get a lot of me talking tonight.

41:10 ↗ Okay. So, um, as we've talked about over

41:13 ↗ the last few months, we are bringing you

41:16 ↗ all sections of the IAP that are kind of

41:20 ↗ ready for review. Um, and then we'll be

41:23 ↗ revisiting some sections and then of

41:25 ↗ course eventually bringing all the plan

41:28 ↗ forward for comments. Um, tonight we

41:31 ↗ wanted to talk through four questions

41:33 ↗ with you all. Um, a renaming of the

41:37 ↗ overarching action section.

41:40 ↗ uh adding in a municipal operations

41:43 ↗ target. This would be new and one of the

41:46 ↗ few changes we'd be making to a target

41:48 ↗ in the IAP. And then we were seeking

41:50 ↗ initial feedback on the revised

41:53 ↗ overarching actions and initial feedback

41:56 ↗ on the revised material and consumption

42:00 ↗ actions. Um, so I'll just walk through a

42:03 ↗ little bit of an overview and then I do

42:05 ↗ have slides that lay out every single

42:07 ↗ action and the proposed revision. So

42:10 ↗ I'll walk through those briefly and then

42:11 ↗ we'll come back and revisit them. But

42:13 ↗ want you to have kind of the whole

42:15 ↗ snapshot before we move forward.

42:17 ↗ >> Just one.

42:18 ↗ >> Yeah.

42:19 ↗ >> I look through this presentation and I

42:21 ↗ was trying to figure out what you meant

42:22 ↗ by OB and MC. A lot of times you in a

42:27 ↗ lot of the presentations I've seen you

42:29 ↗ use acronyms but you never tell us what

42:31 ↗ they are.

42:31 ↗ >> Yes, I will talk through that. Thank

42:33 ↗ you. Yes. So here we are providing input

42:35 ↗ on the overarching that is OB uh focus

42:38 ↗ area um of the IAP and then input on the

42:42 ↗ materials and consumption focus area of

42:45 ↗ the IAP. So, as a reminder, um, and

42:48 ↗ those that are new to the board, the

42:49 ↗ IAP's broken up into six, uh, different

42:52 ↗ focus areas, and these are two of those

42:54 ↗ areas.

42:57 ↗ Um, so here are the four questions. The

42:59 ↗ renaming of one of the focus areas,

43:02 ↗ feedback on the proposed target for

43:05 ↗ municipal operations, and then feedback

43:07 ↗ on the two focus areas overarching and

43:10 ↗ materials and consumption.

43:13 ↗ And there is some animation in there.

43:16 ↗ Sorry about that. Um, so looking at the

43:19 ↗ overarching actions focus area, we are

43:24 ↗ proposing a little bit of a

43:25 ↗ restructuring and renaming

43:28 ↗ of this focus area. Within the IAAP, we

43:33 ↗ have actions around city operations a

43:36 ↗ little bit scattered. There are several

43:39 ↗ that exist in the um current overarching

43:42 ↗ focus area, but then there's a few

43:45 ↗ scattered throughout other focus areas.

43:47 ↗ So, what we would like to do is bring

43:49 ↗ those all into the overarching actions

43:52 ↗ focus area and rename it overarching and

43:56 ↗ municipal operations.

43:58 ↗ Um so, we'll come back and visit that in

44:02 ↗ a moment. Um the other changes we're

44:05 ↗ making to this section are uh proposing

44:08 ↗ a target and then of course updating the

44:11 ↗ actions.

44:13 ↗ The target that we are looking for the

44:16 ↗ overarching actions focus area

44:20 ↗ um would be to add one around municipal

44:24 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions reduction. So

44:27 ↗ right now this focus area just has a

44:29 ↗ communitywide emissions reduction goal

44:32 ↗ or target. It does not have anything any

44:35 ↗ target associated with our municipal

44:37 ↗ operations.

44:39 ↗ So, we are proposing

44:42 ↗ to align our city operations with the um

44:49 ↗ the communitywide

44:51 ↗ uh greenhouse gas emissions target but

44:54 ↗ on a faster scale. So, essentially we

44:57 ↗ would the city would be a leader and be

44:59 ↗ out front in terms of reducing our

45:01 ↗ emissions. So right now we're proposing

45:03 ↗ a 95%

45:05 ↗ reduction compared to our 2022 baseline

45:09 ↗ and net zero emissions by 2040.

45:14 ↗ Um and then we are also proposing to

45:18 ↗ develop some targets around

45:22 ↗ our light duty fleet and how much we

45:24 ↗ will have transitioned that fleet.

45:28 ↗ um a target around how many of our

45:31 ↗ buildings are 100% electric

45:34 ↗ and then maintaining a current target

45:37 ↗ that we have actually

45:39 ↗ um well it's a little bit revised but a

45:42 ↗ current target of having 100% renewable

45:44 ↗ energy for municipal operations electric

45:47 ↗ use. We have achieved this in our

45:50 ↗ buildings and we're already we're

45:52 ↗ working towards it with our water

45:54 ↗ operations and our street lighting. Um

45:57 ↗ right now the current target is just

45:59 ↗ around our building. So we're proposing

46:01 ↗ expanding that.

46:03 ↗ Um and that is because of our we are we

46:07 ↗ purchased Puget Sound Energy's green

46:09 ↗ direct program which is 100% renewable

46:11 ↗ and green powered. That's how we're

46:14 ↗ achieving that.

46:16 ↗ Um little bit of background on these

46:19 ↗ targets. So this was based on research

46:22 ↗ actually by one of our Gibson interns.

46:25 ↗ Um he looked across other jurisdictions

46:28 ↗ and what kinds of municipal targets they

46:30 ↗ have. Um some cities have them.

46:33 ↗ Belleview, Seattle, Shoreline. Um but

46:37 ↗ they there's not a lot of municipal

46:40 ↗ targets out there, but we felt that

46:42 ↗ these would be in line with those cities

46:45 ↗ that do have targets.

46:47 ↗ Um most of the jurisdictions have

46:50 ↗ compliance years for their targets

46:52 ↗ between 2030 and 20 40. Um so that's why

46:57 ↗ we were sticking within um kind of that

46:59 ↗ 15-year timeline.

47:03 ↗ Um based on where we are in our current

47:05 ↗ greenhouse gas inventory, we are not um

47:09 ↗ we didn't want to propose 100%

47:12 ↗ achievement by 2030. We want something

47:15 ↗ that's ambitious, but that we also think

47:17 ↗ is achievable. Um, so we will be meeting

47:20 ↗ with our

47:22 ↗ fleet team and our facilities team to

47:25 ↗ set those percentages that um, again we

47:28 ↗ think are achievable

47:31 ↗ um, but also are a bit of a stretch for

47:33 ↗ the city that we're going to have to

47:34 ↗ work.

47:39 ↗ I think um, right now David and I

47:41 ↗ discussed having a heavy medium or heavy

47:43 ↗ duty fleet

47:46 ↗ uh, target. We thought we just don't

47:48 ↗ have the information enough information

47:50 ↗ we felt like right now and things are

47:53 ↗ changing so quickly with medium and

47:54 ↗ heavy duty fleet that we didn't feel

47:58 ↗ comfortable proposing anything like that

47:59 ↗ for this IAP. So that's why you just see

48:02 ↗ light duty fleet

48:05 ↗ >> on number two. Is there a typo in there?

48:07 ↗ Is it percent light duty fleet that EV?

48:10 ↗ >> Oh that is EV. Thank you. Yeah. Yes.

48:15 ↗ Um, so why why don't we sit on this and

48:19 ↗ I'll I can move through the actions and

48:21 ↗ then we'll

48:24 ↗ I'll move through just the overarching

48:26 ↗ focus area actions and then we can come

48:29 ↗ back and look at this section before we

48:31 ↗ get into materials and consumption.

48:34 ↗ Um, so again this would be a brand new

48:36 ↗ target in overarching.

48:40 ↗ All right. And then we have been working

48:43 ↗ to update the overarching focus area

48:46 ↗ actions. Um, and this chart is the same

48:50 ↗ chart that was in the memo,

48:52 ↗ but tries to provide the proposed

48:55 ↗ concept. We have some words smmithing to

48:57 ↗ do. We didn't want to word smith

48:58 ↗ tonight, but at least get a thumbs up

49:00 ↗ that we're kind of on the right track or

49:02 ↗ if we should be making revisions.

49:04 ↗ Um, and then we mentioned kind of how

49:06 ↗ that differs from the 2021 action. and

49:10 ↗ then um uh included that the language of

49:14 ↗ that action for reference.

49:16 ↗ So I'll just walk through these briefly.

49:18 ↗ There's two pages so I'm going to go

49:19 ↗ through pretty quickly. Um our first one

49:23 ↗ would be a modified action where that

49:27 ↗ would look at public engagement

49:28 ↗ strategies around outreach and education

49:30 ↗ on climate action in the 2021 plan. This

49:35 ↗ one was very specific to a particular

49:37 ↗ program. It was around implementing the

49:39 ↗ community climate challenge. That was

49:41 ↗ the outreach and education tool. We want

49:44 ↗ to broaden that. That allows us some

49:46 ↗ flexibility on the different programs or

49:48 ↗ tools that we use.

49:51 ↗ Advocating for climate legislation.

49:54 ↗ We're recommending retaining that

49:56 ↗ participating in regional partnerships.

49:58 ↗ Uh these are things like um King County

50:01 ↗ Cities Climate Collaborative. Um other

50:04 ↗ groups like that. We're recommending

50:05 ↗ retaining that.

50:08 ↗ Um the next one, engaging youth in

50:10 ↗ climate action. We wanted to modify kind

50:14 ↗ of generalize that one a little bit. The

50:17 ↗ language from 2021 uh read support

50:20 ↗ climate and sustainability education in

50:22 ↗ schools. We were a little nervous that

50:25 ↗ that sounded like the city's trying to

50:28 ↗ develop curriculum. We don't have

50:30 ↗ control over that. um that's not our

50:33 ↗ role, but we do work with youth on a lot

50:38 ↗ of different programming and we're

50:39 ↗ continuing to do that. Um and so wanted

50:42 ↗ an action that more encompassed our um

50:46 ↗ interest in engagement of youth and with

50:49 ↗ schooled as we're invited in

50:52 ↗ um track and report on IAP

50:54 ↗ implementation progress. We didn't have

50:57 ↗ anything around regular reporting. So,

50:59 ↗ we're proposing that as a new action.

51:02 ↗ Uh implementing workforce development

51:04 ↗ strategies. There was nothing in the

51:06 ↗ plan about climate or green jobs

51:09 ↗ workforce. That's something we're

51:10 ↗ interested in pursuing in partnership

51:12 ↗ with economic development.

51:16 ↗ Securing sustainable funding for climate

51:18 ↗ action. That's also proposed as a new um

51:22 ↗ action.

51:24 ↗ promoting successes and lessons learned.

51:27 ↗ Um, that's where, you know, we share out

51:29 ↗ a lot at a regional and even national

51:31 ↗ level the work that we're doing. That's

51:33 ↗ a proposed new action. Um,

51:36 ↗ Casey's Scap, that's the King County

51:38 ↗ strategic climate action plan that was

51:40 ↗ just passed by King County Council. Um,

51:43 ↗ that's an action that exists there. We

51:45 ↗ thought might be nice to duplicate at

51:47 ↗ the local level.

51:49 ↗ Another new action is programming for

51:52 ↗ reducing localized pollutants. This one

51:55 ↗ needs to be word smith a bit, but we

51:58 ↗ thought this would um open up

52:00 ↗ opportunities to be working on things if

52:03 ↗ directed by council such as electric

52:06 ↗ landscaping incentives or we're looking

52:10 ↗ out possibly 10 years. Is that an

52:12 ↗ ordinance that the environmental board

52:14 ↗ and council want us to pursue in the

52:16 ↗ future? Um, is there interest in closing

52:20 ↗ streets to motorized traffic during

52:22 ↗ certain times of the year? We kind we

52:24 ↗ just want to allow that flexibility if

52:26 ↗ we're looking at a longer term plan um

52:28 ↗ or any kind of idling policies.

52:35 ↗ And then the next one was um preparing

52:39 ↗ the municipal city operation greenhouse

52:42 ↗ gas inventory. That's just a slight

52:44 ↗ modification because the current

52:46 ↗ language um reads to prepare the first

52:50 ↗ one.

52:52 ↗ Um implementing internal sustainability

52:54 ↗ policies.

52:56 ↗ Uh this one is revised from a couple of

53:00 ↗ policies that were proposed in the last

53:02 ↗ IAP. Um this is really to now move

53:05 ↗ forward those policies into

53:06 ↗ implementation.

53:09 ↗ um implementing strategies to reduce our

53:11 ↗ city's footprint, uh slight

53:14 ↗ modification, as well as the action

53:16 ↗ around um our electric fleet.

53:21 ↗ Um

53:23 ↗ uh generating and storing renewable

53:24 ↗ energy at city proper properties. Uh we

53:28 ↗ just expanded that to make sure it

53:30 ↗ encompass or that it read to encompass

53:33 ↗ both buildings but also could be um

53:36 ↗ ground mounted solar or solar car ports

53:39 ↗ but beyond building those mounted on

53:41 ↗ rooftops.

53:43 ↗ Um strategies to reduce transportation

53:45 ↗ emissions. This was just an expansion of

53:48 ↗ the very specific language around bike

53:51 ↗ share and carpool

53:53 ↗ and enhancing staff ability to make

53:56 ↗ sustainability-minded decisions. This

53:59 ↗ relates to policies. Um, it's really

54:01 ↗ about

54:03 ↗ building that internal capacity and

54:06 ↗ staff um, feeling empowered to make

54:09 ↗ those decisions in their everyday work

54:11 ↗ and kind of building that uh, across our

54:15 ↗ entire city workforce.

54:17 ↗ I think that's it. So, that's a lot.

54:19 ↗ Those are all the overarching actions,

54:21 ↗ but um, these were really intended as

54:25 ↗ the ones that the city is doing with its

54:28 ↗ own operations. But this section of the

54:30 ↗ ICAP also encompass kind of the general

54:33 ↗ actions that don't necessarily fit

54:35 ↗ within another focus area like buildings

54:38 ↗ or natural systems for example. So, this

54:42 ↗ is a little bit longer than what we

54:44 ↗ currently have in terms of the number of

54:45 ↗ actions, but um it's what David and I

54:49 ↗ feel like uh needs to move forward

54:56 ↗ to take specific feedback, general

54:58 ↗ feedback, and again um more think of

55:01 ↗ these as concepts and not necessarily.

55:04 ↗ >> So, we're gonna talk about this and then

55:06 ↗ talk about the next section after.

55:08 ↗ >> Yeah, why don't we start with this page

55:09 ↗ and then we can

55:11 ↗ And I'm happy to go back and I'll go

55:13 ↗ back to the target too in a minute.

55:17 ↗ >> Well, sorry it doesn't pertain to this

55:19 ↗ page and sorry if you mentioned it, but

55:21 ↗ um I guess could you explain a little

55:24 ↗ bit more about the reasoning for u

55:27 ↗ rather than having an overarching and a

55:29 ↗ separate municipal operations?

55:32 ↗ >> Yeah, that's a great question. Um, so we

55:37 ↗ thought, um, we didn't necessarily want

55:40 ↗ to add a new focus area to the plan. We

55:43 ↗ felt like that was a pretty big change.

55:45 ↗ If the board thinks that's cleaner, we

55:48 ↗ can definitely do that. We could have an

55:50 ↗ overarching, which is maybe more the

55:51 ↗ general education. And then we could

55:54 ↗ have a municipal operations focus area.

55:56 ↗ I think we were there were a lot of

55:58 ↗ municipal actions already included in

56:01 ↗ this focus area. So, we thought it might

56:04 ↗ just be easier to bring a few more in,

56:06 ↗ but we could break that up if that's a

56:08 ↗ full structure. Thanks.

56:11 ↗ >> And I know you said that this block

56:13 ↗ operations kind of lead the way in those

56:15 ↗ overarching. So, I think it makes sense.

56:17 ↗ Just wanted to make sure we had that.

56:19 ↗ >> Yeah. Do you think would it be cleaner

56:21 ↗ to split them or

56:23 ↗ >> I don't feel strongly about it. I I I

56:26 ↗ don't know.

56:26 ↗ >> Okay. I think it makes sense uh you know

56:30 ↗ categorically to have them separate but

56:32 ↗ I also I know I get your lot for sure.

56:37 ↗ >> Yeah, that's something we can look into.

56:48 ↗ >> The strategies to reduce transportation

56:51 ↗ emissions from city employees.

56:55 ↗ I'm just wondering why does this focus

56:58 ↗ just on the city employees? Well, I

57:00 ↗ Okay. Is that because this is municipal

57:02 ↗ operations?

57:03 ↗ >> Exactly.

57:04 ↗ >> Is there an overarching goal to reduce

57:09 ↗ uh transportation issues overall?

57:12 ↗ >> Yes.

57:13 ↗ >> Yeah. So, there is another focus area

57:16 ↗ we'll revisit in early 2026. It's that's

57:19 ↗ our land use and transportation focus

57:21 ↗ area. So this one is just focused really

57:23 ↗ on overarching education outreach and

57:26 ↗ city operations.

57:29 ↗ >> Well, so I was uh I think an area that

57:32 ↗ we need to do better on is multimodal

57:35 ↗ transportation

57:36 ↗ uh transportation corridors for

57:39 ↗ multimodal devices, but that's not this.

57:43 ↗ >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that we'll try

57:45 ↗ and bring that one to you all in

57:47 ↗ January.

57:50 ↗ Awesome.

57:55 ↗ Thanks.

57:56 ↗ And come here. So, the second one is

57:59 ↗ advocate for climate legislation. Um,

58:03 ↗ I would like to either add to this one

58:05 ↗ or create another one for um

58:11 ↗ interacting with or commenting, making

58:14 ↗ comments or signing on to letters to the

58:16 ↗ UTC. Mhm.

58:18 ↗ >> So the reason I'll just talk about the

58:21 ↗ reasoning behind it. So the UTC

58:25 ↗ oversees um PFC both gas and electric.

58:29 ↗ So um so there are very

58:33 ↗ there's often comments uh times where

58:36 ↗ you can comment either um verbally

58:40 ↗ sometimes they have um you don't even

58:42 ↗ you don't have even have to go in in

58:44 ↗ person anymore. They have it virtually

58:46 ↗ So you can just join and um comment or

58:49 ↗ which is especially powerful. Um the

58:52 ↗ last time I did it, um they were super

58:55 ↗ grateful for everybody who was there and

58:57 ↗ just like encouraging us to continue to

59:01 ↗ engage um because it helps them. um

59:07 ↗ if they have us behind them, then

59:09 ↗ they're more likely to be able to um

59:14 ↗ implement the uh

59:19 ↗ isn't that a policy or you know

59:20 ↗ implement the rules that make it um

59:23 ↗ easier for us to make reach our goals

59:26 ↗ >> and

59:28 ↗ that's important, right? So, um, they

59:32 ↗ want us to go participate and it it's

59:35 ↗ really huge like when the the city

59:38 ↗ either writes a letter, signs on to a

59:40 ↗ letter that's already written. Um, so a

59:43 ↗ lot of times there's there's groups that

59:44 ↗ have letters you can just sign on to.

59:46 ↗ So, it makes but or you can just glean

59:48 ↗ the information, you know, the talking

59:50 ↗ points and um, but sometimes it's hard

59:53 ↗ to do all the research. Um anyway, so

59:58 ↗ engaging

1:00:00 ↗ and it's been my experience that when

1:00:02 ↗ I've asked if the city can do this, they

1:00:04 ↗ don't

1:00:07 ↗ only one time have they uh said, "Yeah,

1:00:10 ↗ let's do it." Otherwise, it's like I

1:00:12 ↗ think we have to have it in the plan to

1:00:15 ↗ make the city feel empowered to be able

1:00:17 ↗ to do it. So, um

1:00:22 ↗ I would like to advocate for having

1:00:26 ↗ working with the UTC

1:00:28 ↗ and um I can even take it on to um stay

1:00:32 ↗ a breast of you know when the common

1:00:34 ↗ periods are and which are ones that

1:00:37 ↗ would be important for us to

1:00:40 ↗ the utility trade commission if folks

1:00:42 ↗ aren't familiar utilities um

1:00:45 ↗ transportation and

1:00:52 ↗ Yeah, thank you. Um, that's a great

1:00:54 ↗ suggestion that also makes me think we

1:00:56 ↗ do comments to the state building code

1:01:00 ↗ commission.

1:01:02 ↗ Um, so maybe we modify it to climate

1:01:05 ↗ legislation and regulatory bodies like

1:01:08 ↗ that. So I think that's a great

1:01:10 ↗ suggestion. Does the city have a

1:01:12 ↗ government affairs type of person that

1:01:15 ↗ monitors a lot of these groups?

1:01:17 ↗ >> Um, not on staff. It's contracted.

1:01:20 ↗ Um,

1:01:22 ↗ she's primarily engaged during the

1:01:24 ↗ legislative process, but kind of on call

1:01:28 ↗ I think throughout the year engaged her

1:01:30 ↗ in some ways outside of that process.

1:01:32 ↗ So, um, but definitely not as, um,

1:01:36 ↗ sometimes I look to Belleview or some of

1:01:37 ↗ the cities that have a full-time

1:01:39 ↗ government affairs and all their leader.

1:01:42 ↗ King County has been really great at

1:01:43 ↗ tracking that.

1:01:45 ↗ >> That be the person who would make

1:01:46 ↗ comment on our behalf at these.

1:01:49 ↗ >> Um,

1:01:50 ↗ she does the, um, folks that are

1:01:53 ↗ involved in the legislative session do

1:01:55 ↗ sometimes or at least are tracking

1:01:57 ↗ enough to bring the mayor in or council

1:01:59 ↗ member to make comment. Typically, if

1:02:01 ↗ we're signing on to a letter to provide

1:02:04 ↗ comments to UTC or other bodies, the

1:02:06 ↗ mayor will do that and staff will vet it

1:02:09 ↗ and provide a recommendation to

1:02:11 ↗ leadership to sign.

1:02:14 ↗ >> Nice.

1:02:17 ↗ >> So, um I know we've been talking a

1:02:20 ↗ little bit about messaging lately and I

1:02:21 ↗ know that you're totally on top of this

1:02:24 ↗ and behind it. I love what Connie's been

1:02:26 ↗ saying about like making it, you know,

1:02:28 ↗ easy for people like when we're talking

1:02:29 ↗ to the public, make it easy using words

1:02:32 ↗ that they don't have to look up. We

1:02:34 ↗ don't have to look up.

1:02:36 ↗ >> I shouldn't say they because I look

1:02:37 ↗ words up all the time.

1:02:39 ↗ >> So, um, and then, um, Julie Carr, who,

1:02:42 ↗ um, spoke with Ann and David from People

1:02:45 ↗ Action last night, sent me a, um, a

1:02:48 ↗ really cool, um, podcast about

1:02:51 ↗ messaging. And um I could go through all

1:02:54 ↗ of it, but you know there's a lot of

1:02:56 ↗ great um studies

1:02:59 ↗ um that have come out recently. There's

1:03:00 ↗ one coming out again in the end of the

1:03:02 ↗ year how how to effectively talk to the

1:03:05 ↗ public um

1:03:08 ↗ non in a nonpartisan way um to motivate

1:03:12 ↗ them to want to do things in regards to

1:03:14 ↗ climate change. So then I was thinking,

1:03:16 ↗ well, how can we talk, you know, how can

1:03:18 ↗ we get this in there? So, and it does

1:03:19 ↗ seem like it's overarching. So, I was

1:03:22 ↗ thinking, well, maybe we have um

1:03:26 ↗ hire a um

1:03:30 ↗ a messaging

1:03:33 ↗ person

1:03:35 ↗ to help with messaging to the general

1:03:38 ↗ public.

1:03:40 ↗ >> Like what's in the what's in the IAP, we

1:03:44 ↗ have to have it, you know, very

1:03:45 ↗ specific, but with the general public,

1:03:48 ↗ there's ways that we can do it. So, we

1:03:49 ↗ can use the will be especially

1:03:52 ↗ motivating. There's a lot of study

1:03:54 ↗ behind it now and it seems to change a

1:03:56 ↗ little bit so it's good to stay on top

1:03:58 ↗ of the latest data.

1:03:59 ↗ >> Yeah. No, that's great. Yeah. I'm

1:04:01 ↗ thinking maybe the first one around

1:04:02 ↗ public engagement strategies including

1:04:05 ↗ something around kind of like best

1:04:06 ↗ management or best messaging practices

1:04:09 ↗ or whether that's bringing a firm or

1:04:11 ↗ having staff not involved in our work

1:04:13 ↗ review it or a focus group review it or

1:04:17 ↗ Yeah, I think that's a great great

1:04:18 ↗ suggestion.

1:04:22 ↗ Yeah, it's great.

1:04:27 ↗ Kind of jumping around a bit, but

1:04:29 ↗ looking for kind of that initial

1:04:30 ↗ feedback, any gaps, things to revise.

1:04:35 ↗ >> If you want me to, I could go over what

1:04:36 ↗ I gleaned from the podcast or I could

1:04:39 ↗ just send it to

1:04:41 ↗ >> I think I was I think Ann sent it to me,

1:04:43 ↗ too. Ann to me.

1:04:47 ↗ >> Yeah. Keith, uh, I saw that support the

1:04:51 ↗ electrification was on here, too. And,

1:04:53 ↗ um, I just recently heard Ford is, uh, I

1:04:56 ↗ think stopping production of electrified

1:04:58 ↗ F-150s,

1:05:00 ↗ uh, and and it's because of those those

1:05:02 ↗ incentives going away. So, I just want

1:05:04 ↗ to make sure I'm sure y'all are

1:05:06 ↗ responsive to it, but um if it's the

1:05:08 ↗ difference between like hiring another

1:05:10 ↗ employee or getting an electric truck,

1:05:12 ↗ uh if the cost is going up that um we're

1:05:14 ↗ looking alternatives that we need to

1:05:16 ↗ like minimizing single occupancy trips

1:05:18 ↗ or things like that.

1:05:25 ↗ I know we aren't looking at words, but

1:05:26 ↗ for the princess programs

1:05:29 ↗ and like that section, what does that

1:05:31 ↗ really mean? Like the change I been

1:05:34 ↗ reading it for like a minute and I don't

1:05:35 ↗ know

1:05:35 ↗ >> what does it mean?

1:05:36 ↗ >> Yeah. Yeah, that's a great question and

1:05:39 ↗ I think we wanted to think of the

1:05:41 ↗ language there, but um

1:05:45 ↗ we do not yet have direction on to

1:05:48 ↗ pursue this, but we've had a lot of

1:05:49 ↗ community members ask about looking into

1:05:52 ↗ electric landscaping ordinances that

1:05:55 ↗ would um there be ban or incentives to

1:05:59 ↗ get rid of like gas powered landscaping

1:06:03 ↗ equipment. Um Kirkland has done this.

1:06:06 ↗ they have kind of a sunset and a phase

1:06:08 ↗ in period. Um I believe Seattle has. Um

1:06:14 ↗ again, we don't have direction from

1:06:15 ↗ council to pursue that, but there's been

1:06:17 ↗ a lot of interest from community

1:06:18 ↗ members. So there's that, but there we

1:06:21 ↗ were thinking there could be additional

1:06:24 ↗ programming um or different policies to

1:06:28 ↗ pursue. So, we're trying to think of

1:06:29 ↗ some general language that would

1:06:31 ↗ encompass landscaping equipment, no

1:06:35 ↗ idling zones, kind of just thinking

1:06:37 ↗ about um gas powered equipment that's

1:06:42 ↗ generating kind of air pollutants on a

1:06:44 ↗ smaller scale is what we're here.

1:06:49 ↗ >> Right back to what Dan was saying.

1:06:51 ↗ >> Yes. Messaging. Yeah.

1:06:53 ↗ >> Yep. So, yes, we'd want to play around

1:06:55 ↗ with that. And there will be for each of

1:06:57 ↗ these they'll have a description of

1:06:59 ↗ what's meant

1:07:06 ↗ >> screen

1:07:08 ↗ on the actions or the

1:07:12 ↗ >> Okay. Yeah, we can spend some time here

1:07:13 ↗ too. Sorry.

1:07:16 ↗ >> On the on number one there is 95% and

1:07:19 ↗ net zero by 2040. Is that realistic?

1:07:22 ↗ Have you guys done the math to see what

1:07:24 ↗ that's going to cost? And can I afford

1:07:27 ↗ that?

1:07:28 ↗ >> Um, and can we afford it? Uh, we

1:07:33 ↗ that is the target for the community by

1:07:37 ↗ 2050. We felt like if we are looking at

1:07:40 ↗ doing that communitywide, we want city

1:07:43 ↗ to be ahead. Um, we are going to be

1:07:46 ↗ going through a process with a

1:07:48 ↗ consultant as we update this plan to see

1:07:51 ↗ if our actions will actually put us on

1:07:54 ↗ target for meeting our targets. So, I

1:07:57 ↗ can't necessarily answer that yet. Um,

1:08:00 ↗ we do think

1:08:03 ↗ we think we're in good shape for our

1:08:05 ↗ buildings. our light duty fleet is on a

1:08:10 ↗ path although that may change now but um

1:08:13 ↗ several things um one of our big our

1:08:17 ↗ biggest challenge is actually staff

1:08:19 ↗ commutes

1:08:20 ↗ um I don't know if you remember from the

1:08:22 ↗ last greenhouse gas inventory I think it

1:08:25 ↗ was around 25% of our emissions and that

1:08:28 ↗ will become a higher and higher

1:08:30 ↗ percentage as our building emissions go

1:08:32 ↗ down the pool is a huge challenge

1:08:35 ↗ >> so we have a couple big hurdles to

1:08:38 ↗ address, but we felt like we wanted an

1:08:41 ↗ ambitious target if we're looking at a

1:08:43 ↗ community target by 2050.

1:08:46 ↗ It's a it's a good question. We'll be

1:08:48 ↗ assessing over the next few months and

1:08:50 ↗ how far

1:08:57 ↗ >> consider

1:09:01 ↗ I like fleet. I'm all on board with that

1:09:03 ↗ when you come up with a good percentage,

1:09:05 ↗ but just take into consideration that

1:09:08 ↗ you have large power outages sometimes.

1:09:10 ↗ >> Yes.

1:09:10 ↗ >> And if you have a large power outage,

1:09:12 ↗ you like usually it's down into account

1:09:15 ↗ after about

1:09:17 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:09:21 ↗ >> And that's very

1:09:23 ↗ >> Yep. And um

1:09:27 ↗ >> Yep. I'll talk we have um a grant I'm

1:09:30 ↗ gonna talk about a minute around that.

1:09:31 ↗ But yeah, that's something um I think

1:09:36 ↗ we've been discussing it in our

1:09:38 ↗ community resilience section. It would

1:09:40 ↗ probably move into this section is

1:09:41 ↗ making sure there resilience

1:09:44 ↗ infrastructure in place for leading

1:09:46 ↗ buildings

1:09:47 ↗ that may end up moving in here.

1:09:51 ↗ >> I would discourage you from involving

1:09:54 ↗ the medium or heavy duty at this time.

1:09:57 ↗ Yeah,

1:09:59 ↗ >> focus on

1:10:01 ↗ the technology there.

1:10:08 ↗ >> Alex,

1:10:12 ↗ >> yeah, on this page I just it says it's

1:10:14 ↗ compared to a 2022 baseline, but the IAP

1:10:17 ↗ currently has it as a 20 or a 2007

1:10:20 ↗ baseline. Is there a reason for a change

1:10:21 ↗ in the year?

1:10:23 ↗ >> Yes, great question. Um I meant to

1:10:26 ↗ explain that. Apologies for not doing

1:10:28 ↗ that. Our first municipal greenhouse gas

1:10:31 ↗ inventory was done in 2022.

1:10:34 ↗ So that is that is our baseline for city

1:10:37 ↗ operations. That was the first city

1:10:39 ↗ operation greenhouse gas inventory we

1:10:41 ↗ did where our community greenhouse gas

1:10:43 ↗ inventories go back to 2007.

1:10:48 ↗ >> Okay. Thank you.

1:10:49 ↗ >> That folks understand that that makes

1:10:52 ↗ sense folks. our ne our greenhouse gas

1:10:54 ↗ inventory that we'll present to you in

1:10:56 ↗ the new year. That's only the second

1:10:58 ↗ city operation.

1:11:04 ↗ >> Um on the engage youth election,

1:11:10 ↗ I know you don't control the curriculum,

1:11:12 ↗ but can the city

1:11:15 ↗ >> meet with the uh instructors at the

1:11:18 ↗ schools at the beginning of the year and

1:11:20 ↗ say, "Here's here's what we're focusing

1:11:22 ↗ on." Yeah.

1:11:26 ↗ >> Or go to a class and get a presentation.

1:11:29 ↗ >> Yep. Yeah. Absolutely. And we try and do

1:11:32 ↗ that through sustainability ambassadors.

1:11:34 ↗ He is trying to work on curriculum. And

1:11:37 ↗ then um I was going to share later. We

1:11:39 ↗ just held a big event at the high

1:11:41 ↗ school. It's actually gonna I forgot to

1:11:43 ↗ mention it to you in case you were there

1:11:44 ↗ that day, but the sustainability design

1:11:46 ↗ classes there ASB. there are about 90

1:11:48 ↗ students presenting on this work and

1:11:51 ↗ getting their input and the mayor elect

1:11:54 ↗ and a couple council members were there

1:11:56 ↗ as well. So yeah, absolutely we can

1:11:58 ↗ engage in the school. So um we can

1:12:00 ↗ clarify some of that in the description.

1:12:05 ↗ >> I know this might not be the right place

1:12:07 ↗ to ask this but um

1:12:10 ↗ has the city thought about do you guys

1:12:12 ↗ give orders to employees do?

1:12:18 ↗ And I actually think that it'd be great

1:12:21 ↗ if we could get um CCA to give free

1:12:25 ↗ cards out to everybody

1:12:27 ↗ and then maybe if they're not using

1:12:28 ↗ them, you know, if they use it, they get

1:12:29 ↗ to keep it if they're not using it.

1:12:33 ↗ >> That's great. I think based on our last

1:12:35 ↗ discussion and input from the tab, we

1:12:38 ↗ were looking at some language in the

1:12:40 ↗ transportation actions. So, let's

1:12:41 ↗ revisit that at our next meeting when we

1:12:44 ↗ dig into those actions. Make sure that's

1:12:46 ↗ captured some additional incentives or

1:12:49 ↗ further reduced or

1:12:56 ↗ >> any other comments on this topic.

1:13:00 ↗ >> Um why don't I I'll just pop back real

1:13:03 ↗ quick to the targets because I launched

1:13:05 ↗ right into the actions without

1:13:06 ↗ revisiting this. Um any other feedback

1:13:09 ↗ on these proposals for um city operation

1:13:15 ↗ targets?

1:13:17 ↗ >> You say water street you say water

1:13:19 ↗ you're talking

1:13:21 ↗ >> water generation. Yeah.

1:13:31 ↗ >> Great. Well, we'll bring these back to

1:13:32 ↗ you. We're um going to be looking at the

1:13:34 ↗ results of our 24 inventory and meeting

1:13:38 ↗ with our um head of facilities and fleet

1:13:42 ↗ in early January to look at what kind of

1:13:45 ↗ percentages again that are ambitious yet

1:13:48 ↗ we also think opportunity to achieve. Um

1:13:51 ↗ and so we'll bring those numbers back to

1:13:54 ↗ you all to meeting.

1:13:57 ↗ Um, and then, uh, as you have downtime

1:14:01 ↗ over the next few weeks and you feel

1:14:04 ↗ like revisiting the memo or the board

1:14:06 ↗ packet from tonight, um, if you have

1:14:09 ↗ other, uh, thoughts around any of the

1:14:12 ↗ proposed actions within overarching

1:14:14 ↗ focus area, feel free to send those

1:14:16 ↗ along and we will definitely be doing

1:14:18 ↗ another touch with the board.

1:14:20 ↗ Any

1:14:23 ↗ um final thoughts on this focus area

1:14:25 ↗ before we jump into materials and

1:14:27 ↗ consumption? Okay, great.

1:14:31 ↗ All right. So, in this section, um we

1:14:34 ↗ are really just looking at revised

1:14:37 ↗ actions.

1:14:39 ↗ Um unfortunately, Sam couldn't be here,

1:14:41 ↗ so I'm going to do my best to summarize

1:14:43 ↗ some of the revisions. Um most of these

1:14:46 ↗ are actually retained from what's

1:14:48 ↗ currently in the materials and

1:14:49 ↗ consumption focus area.

1:14:52 ↗ Um conducting recycling and composting

1:14:55 ↗ outreach and education.

1:14:57 ↗ Um updating municipal solid waste

1:15:00 ↗ contract. Uh so we looked that in

1:15:02 ↗ because there's the potential uh that

1:15:05 ↗ this may be a 10-year plan and so the

1:15:07 ↗ next solid waste contract uh would come

1:15:10 ↗ up for renewal or to put out for

1:15:12 ↗ proposal. So, we left that in.

1:15:15 ↗ Um,

1:15:16 ↗ enforcing and expanding construction and

1:15:19 ↗ demolition code requirements. That's

1:15:21 ↗ currently in the plan. Um, there's not

1:15:23 ↗ been a lot done there, but there's a lot

1:15:26 ↗ planned for this next year. Mandating

1:15:28 ↗ recycling and composting. Um, and this

1:15:32 ↗ would be specifically looking at

1:15:34 ↗ commercial and multifamily. That is in

1:15:36 ↗ the plan. And Sam has some plans to do

1:15:39 ↗ that work this year.

1:15:42 ↗ um proposing a new action around

1:15:44 ↗ household hazardous waste.

1:15:47 ↗ Um proposing a revision to food waste, a

1:15:52 ↗ language that was previously in there

1:15:53 ↗ for food waste where it would be promote

1:15:55 ↗ food donation and food waste prevention.

1:15:58 ↗ Um previously the or the current

1:16:01 ↗ language is partner with regional

1:16:02 ↗ organizations to prevent food waste. We

1:16:04 ↗ wanted to expand this to allow for more

1:16:07 ↗ opportunities

1:16:09 ↗ around food donation and food waste.

1:16:12 ↗ Um similarly proposing a revision to an

1:16:16 ↗ action around community reuse that would

1:16:18 ↗ read as support community reuse, repair

1:16:20 ↗ and upcycle just to broaden what was

1:16:22 ↗ intended there. Um and then a new one

1:16:26 ↗ was a single use plastics ban. Um and

1:16:31 ↗ this would relate to the compostable

1:16:34 ↗ which Sam currently has a grant to fund

1:16:36 ↗ for policy exploration.

1:16:44 ↗ that would be for the um uh restaurants

1:16:48 ↗ or food

1:16:51 ↗ businesses. So, so mostly retaining some

1:16:54 ↗ slight revisions and then two new

1:16:56 ↗ actions in this section.

1:17:01 ↗ Um there were some suggestions earlier

1:17:05 ↗ about

1:17:06 ↗ um I know some of you had mentioned

1:17:08 ↗ having some incentives or requirements

1:17:12 ↗ for having other businesses collect

1:17:14 ↗ recyclable materials.

1:17:16 ↗ Something we could look in here if

1:17:18 ↗ there's other requirements or specific

1:17:20 ↗ things we'd want to call out to consider

1:17:23 ↗ in a new solid waste contract or an

1:17:25 ↗ amendment to a solid waste contract.

1:17:27 ↗ things that we think our waist haulers

1:17:29 ↗ should be doing. We could call those

1:17:31 ↗ out.

1:17:35 ↗ >> I think that would be a good time to try

1:17:37 ↗ to get down to two

1:17:41 ↗ section.

1:17:41 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:17:44 ↗ >> Did you want to elaborate on that again?

1:17:46 ↗ So, it gets stuck in here section.

1:17:49 ↗ >> I'm just trying to ponder how that how

1:17:52 ↗ that could work.

1:18:10 ↗ The city can ban single use plastic

1:18:14 ↗ something

1:18:16 ↗ the city require business to collect

1:18:20 ↗ something that they don't generate

1:18:23 ↗ styrofoam collection. ction point in

1:18:27 ↗ Home Depot or QFC. Is that does the city

1:18:31 ↗ have the authority?

1:18:34 ↗ So, a legal kid.

1:18:36 ↗ >> Yeah,

1:18:38 ↗ that's a good question. I don't I don't

1:18:40 ↗ know. I don't think we probably can't

1:18:43 ↗ require those businesses to recycle them

1:18:46 ↗ because they may not stream to do so. I

1:18:49 ↗ don't know if we can require them to

1:18:50 ↗ collect if then there was an agreement

1:18:52 ↗ that the ecology or someone else picked

1:18:54 ↗ them up. So

1:18:56 ↗ >> you could require recology to provide

1:18:58 ↗ collection services per

1:19:00 ↗ >> Yes, we could do that. I'm not sure

1:19:02 ↗ about the recurrent but that's something

1:19:03 ↗ we can look into.

1:19:04 ↗ >> Yeah. Yeah.

1:19:08 ↗ >> Yeah. Or maybe there's an incentive. I

1:19:10 ↗ think that would be a good that's a good

1:19:12 ↗ strategology

1:19:14 ↗ to provide a collection of so-called

1:19:17 ↗ hard to recycle items um

1:19:24 ↗ at least

1:19:25 ↗ 100 places.

1:19:29 ↗ Okay. They think they've addressed the

1:19:30 ↗ need because you could bring it to their

1:19:33 ↗ store. Well, all right. We need to

1:19:35 ↗ expand beyond that

1:19:38 ↗ collection points

1:19:41 ↗ um

1:19:43 ↗ conveniently available to say

1:19:47 ↗ word that I don't

1:19:51 ↗ yes assess assess potential for

1:19:54 ↗ requirement ecology

1:19:57 ↗ partner

1:20:00 ↗ collection points

1:20:02 ↗ for harder resale

1:20:14 ↗ I'd like to see

1:20:16 ↗ maybe the city put in some policy that

1:20:20 ↗ prohibits

1:20:22 ↗ use of plastic signage for elections

1:20:25 ↗ or or just announcements, you know,

1:20:27 ↗ public announcements like you know, you

1:20:30 ↗ know, put a drum plastic sign

1:20:35 ↗ So make biodegra biodegradable

1:20:38 ↗ electricides.

1:20:39 ↗ >> That's cool.

1:20:45 ↗ >> Fertilizer.

1:20:48 ↗ >> Okay.

1:20:50 ↗ >> Great.

1:20:50 ↗ >> With that native paper.

1:20:52 ↗ >> Yeah. Thank you.

1:20:55 ↗ >> Uh uh the single-use plastics

1:20:59 ↗ this um that only applies to like ser

1:21:02 ↗ serving kind of I guess. Would it apply

1:21:04 ↗ to like grocery store items that that's

1:21:07 ↗ a ton of single use plastics?

1:21:10 ↗ >> Oh. Um, I think this is

1:21:13 ↗ >> Yeah, I think it's Yeah, but I it might

1:21:16 ↗ apply like if you're getting suits at QC

1:21:19 ↗ and they hand

1:21:21 ↗ >> Yeah. But not um I don't think it's

1:21:25 ↗ intended for like the containers at QC

1:21:27 ↗ or PCC bags, chips, things like that.

1:21:34 ↗ >> Okay. Just making sure. And then um oh

1:21:37 ↗ the uh upcycle repair uh effort is that

1:21:41 ↗ tied into the tool library at all. Okay.

1:21:46 ↗ >> How is the household

1:21:48 ↗ that you're thinking of?

1:21:51 ↗ Something that economic solid waste

1:21:53 ↗ already offers

1:21:56 ↗ something different that you're thinking

1:21:58 ↗ of but they do collection days where

1:22:01 ↗ they set up like local school or

1:22:03 ↗ something to bring it by their

1:22:08 ↗ They're large collection facilities and

1:22:09 ↗ they have a LV1 has a little lane you

1:22:12 ↗ can drive through and drop it off

1:22:14 ↗ charge.

1:22:15 ↗ >> Yeah, let me

1:22:18 ↗ >> let me talk to Sam. It may have been

1:22:19 ↗ kind of promoting those events and then

1:22:22 ↗ um we also the city supplements them by

1:22:25 ↗ doing collection events hard to recycle

1:22:28 ↗ but also has price material collection

1:22:30 ↗ event. So let me talk to her about what

1:22:32 ↗ she was thinking there. But I think it

1:22:34 ↗ was mostly connecting people with

1:22:35 ↗ resources

1:22:37 ↗ >> city

1:22:38 ↗ collection.

1:22:40 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:22:42 ↗ >> Yeah. Yeah.

1:22:46 ↗ >> Yeah. Does that last one uh included

1:22:50 ↗ plastic bags for takeaway from say

1:22:53 ↗ Target?

1:22:54 ↗ >> Yeah. So, the city had a plastic bag ban

1:22:58 ↗ and then the state on one's in effect

1:23:00 ↗ that it does allow for the thicker

1:23:02 ↗ reusable plastic bag. So,

1:23:06 ↗ >> we could um

1:23:08 ↗ >> put some effort into that.

1:23:14 ↗ >> Just wanted to say something about that

1:23:15 ↗ and maybe you told me this. I know my

1:23:18 ↗ sister and Ellensburg were they did the

1:23:19 ↗ same thing. They did some research

1:23:20 ↗ around it. So the heavier ones um use

1:23:25 ↗ more petroleum and then they they cost

1:23:27 ↗ more to ship around. They're nice, you

1:23:29 ↗ know, because you can reuse them. We all

1:23:31 ↗ lot of us have our reusable ones. But so

1:23:36 ↗ it got to the question of are they

1:23:38 ↗ actually better?

1:23:45 ↗ Well, our mayor elect helped move that

1:23:47 ↗ forward in Isaqua and move that ban

1:23:50 ↗ forward at the state. So, he'll be a

1:23:52 ↗ good resource to talk to

1:23:55 ↗ enforcing one for the thicker plastic

1:23:59 ↗ >> specifically backwards.

1:24:01 ↗ >> Well, I I I read an article about the I

1:24:04 ↗ think it was in Seattle and so somebody

1:24:07 ↗ had the did the calculations to

1:24:09 ↗ determine that action resulted in 15%

1:24:12 ↗ more plastic

1:24:15 ↗ because they they still get thrown away.

1:24:17 ↗ The the heavier duty ones still get

1:24:19 ↗ thrown some of them get thrown away and

1:24:22 ↗ they use more plastic. So the net result

1:24:27 ↗ >> they're heavier to ship. So

1:24:32 ↗ >> um yeah, we could look at incorporating

1:24:34 ↗ that language around exploring

1:24:45 ↗ comments on this focus area

1:24:54 ↗ and okay well I think we went through

1:24:57 ↗ most of those questions um

1:25:01 ↗ brought up the idea possibly looking at

1:25:03 ↗ splitting of the overarching education

1:25:06 ↗ outreach actions and municipal so we'll

1:25:08 ↗ look at that and definitely want more

1:25:10 ↗ feedback from the board. You'll provide

1:25:12 ↗ some feedback on the municipal

1:25:14 ↗ operations target and then great um

1:25:16 ↗ feedback on the two focus area action.

1:25:19 ↗ So

1:25:20 ↗ >> may I want to considering actions in

1:25:24 ↗ in actions that are going to affect the

1:25:27 ↗ population versus municipality

1:25:31 ↗ make that clear have just a overarching

1:25:34 ↗ action section.

1:25:38 ↗ Okay,

1:25:40 ↗ >> it's up to that nice balance.

1:25:42 ↗ >> Just so it reads clear for the public.

1:25:48 ↗ >> I just think it's confusing

1:25:50 ↗ proposed change.

1:25:52 ↗ >> Okay.

1:25:53 ↗ >> Just seems

1:25:55 ↗ don't understand if I'm trying to

1:25:57 ↗ understand it the people on the street.

1:25:59 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:26:00 ↗ >> Okay.

1:26:00 ↗ >> Why is overarching actions called OD?

1:26:04 ↗ >> That's how it was in the plan. Right.

1:26:13 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:26:17 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:26:19 ↗ They just use it for the numbering of

1:26:21 ↗ the action.

1:26:27 ↗ >> Exactly. OA makes more sense to me as

1:26:29 ↗ well.

1:26:30 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:26:32 ↗ But we could think about um

1:26:36 ↗ maybe keep the suggestion keep kind of

1:26:38 ↗ building off your suggestion is

1:26:39 ↗ overarching and then we kind of separate

1:26:41 ↗ within community action overarching

1:26:44 ↗ community and overarching municipal

1:26:47 ↗ >> like subsections or something.

1:26:49 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:26:49 ↗ >> I did your email, oh is that supposed to

1:26:52 ↗ be EP?

1:26:55 ↗ >> It's each of the actions within there is

1:26:57 ↗ like OB 1.1.

1:26:59 ↗ >> We can change those. It's our update, so

1:27:02 ↗ you can change that.

1:27:04 ↗ >> Okay. Well, great. That was super

1:27:06 ↗ helpful feedback. Um what we'll be doing

1:27:08 ↗ is

1:27:10 ↗ um taking all that input, working on

1:27:13 ↗ revisions to the actions, and then um

1:27:17 ↗ bringing back to the board at some point

1:27:20 ↗ um these sections again for another

1:27:22 ↗ look. Um at our January meeting, we're

1:27:26 ↗ still kind of assessing which sections

1:27:28 ↗ ready to bring forward, but um most

1:27:31 ↗ likely we'll bring forward

1:27:32 ↗ transportation and land use since we've

1:27:35 ↗ already talked a bit about the

1:27:36 ↗ transportation actions and I think's

1:27:39 ↗ pretty ready to go. It's already had

1:27:40 ↗ some initial feedback from TAB and PPC

1:27:45 ↗ is likely coming up next.

1:27:49 ↗ Um, wait.

1:27:52 ↗ I have a number of reports and we're

1:27:53 ↗ ready.

1:28:03 ↗ >> All right. Um, so we had three reports

1:28:06 ↗ attached to the packet. Um, the first

1:28:09 ↗ one was the IAP end of year report. I

1:28:12 ↗ sent that out to you all a couple times.

1:28:14 ↗ I have a few hard copies here. Um it's

1:28:16 ↗ the first time we've done more of a

1:28:18 ↗ communityf facing report. So it was

1:28:20 ↗ meant to have a little bit more

1:28:21 ↗ storytelling heavy on the photos. Um

1:28:25 ↗ sharing kind of the key results or

1:28:26 ↗ takeaways. Um please share that out.

1:28:29 ↗ We'll probably be using this as a

1:28:31 ↗ template going forward in report. Um Sam

1:28:35 ↗ put together a very detailed solid waste

1:28:37 ↗ report on the work that she's been

1:28:39 ↗ doing, the successes they've had and

1:28:42 ↗ some of the interesting partnerships and

1:28:44 ↗ programming that's happened with solid

1:28:46 ↗ waste. Um we'll get her back here soon

1:28:49 ↗ to provide it in person report um and

1:28:52 ↗ talk through some more of those

1:28:53 ↗ programs.

1:28:55 ↗ Um and then David and Dan did a write up

1:28:57 ↗ on the tree giveaway which happened in

1:28:59 ↗ mid November. Um gave away I believe 275

1:29:04 ↗ trees to community members. They gave

1:29:06 ↗ away all the trees. Um had some great

1:29:09 ↗ really ran very smoothly. Uh great

1:29:11 ↗ partnership with fish. Uh provided a

1:29:14 ↗ number of volunteers.

1:29:16 ↗ Um and DEA was just uh worked uh worked

1:29:20 ↗ very smoothly. So, they have a couple

1:29:22 ↗ lessons learned on things that they'll

1:29:24 ↗ improve for next year, but the thought

1:29:25 ↗ is to make continue to make this an

1:29:27 ↗ annual um event for the community

1:29:29 ↗ members to get retrieved.

1:29:33 ↗ Um and then just a few updates with

1:29:36 ↗ things going on. Um we have our two

1:29:38 ↗ solar projects in the works, Pickering

1:29:40 ↗ Barn and the Senior Center. Um Pickering

1:29:44 ↗ Barn still working on some of the

1:29:47 ↗ permitting. Um there's potential that

1:29:49 ↗ still could be installed before the end

1:29:51 ↗ of the year, otherwise

1:29:53 ↗ 2026. Um but we'll make sure to invite

1:29:56 ↗ all of you um when there is a ribbon

1:30:00 ↗ cutting ceremony for that project. Um

1:30:03 ↗ and then the senior center project that

1:30:06 ↗ is moving forward with the

1:30:08 ↗ um and we'll have the contract for

1:30:11 ↗ approval to council early in the new

1:30:13 ↗ year. Excited to get that one moving.

1:30:16 ↗ Um, we also have a number of energy

1:30:17 ↗ efficiency projects in the works. Um,

1:30:20 ↗ some major weatherization upgrades were

1:30:22 ↗ just made at our public works building.

1:30:25 ↗ Um, and we put in a grant this week um

1:30:28 ↗ for some funding for community center

1:30:31 ↗ electrification work.

1:30:33 ↗ Um, we also heard back on two grants

1:30:36 ↗ which we're really excited about. Um,

1:30:37 ↗ both from PSSE. Uh, one is a ebike

1:30:41 ↗ rebate program. So we'll be launching

1:30:44 ↗ that in the spring probably at the same

1:30:47 ↗ around the same timeship

1:30:49 ↗ with um wash dot as they do their second

1:30:52 ↗ round of ebike rebates. And then um we

1:30:56 ↗ also got funding from PSSE to do shared

1:30:59 ↗ EV charging design at this school

1:31:02 ↗ district administrative building. Um,

1:31:05 ↗ we'd be the city and the ISD will work

1:31:07 ↗ in partnership to develop a design for

1:31:11 ↗ fast charging at that facility that

1:31:13 ↗ would likely encompass a solar carport

1:31:16 ↗ or some kind of resiliency element um so

1:31:19 ↗ that our police vehicles or um electric

1:31:22 ↗ buses could still charge at least a

1:31:24 ↗ limited time frame if there was a power

1:31:27 ↗ outage. Um so those grants will be

1:31:30 ↗ underway this year and then we're in the

1:31:33 ↗ process of applying for the fourth time

1:31:36 ↗ um for charging at Tibbitz Valley Park

1:31:38 ↗ just at the parking lot here by the

1:31:40 ↗ skate park.

1:31:42 ↗ Um let's see I mentioned the um event we

1:31:44 ↗ did in November is high school with the

1:31:47 ↗ mayor elect um and students there. We're

1:31:49 ↗ excited to engage more um with the ASB

1:31:53 ↗ students as well the sustainability

1:31:56 ↗ design class. So that will be exciting

1:31:59 ↗ to explore further. Um and then we are

1:32:03 ↗ in discussions with King County Library

1:32:06 ↗ System about um partnering to open the

1:32:09 ↗ tool library. Iate you more on that. So

1:32:12 ↗ they're looking at having a kind of a

1:32:15 ↗ prototype or a pilot um launching at

1:32:17 ↗ other branches. So, we'll likely be

1:32:20 ↗ developing a survey for the community

1:32:22 ↗ that'll go out early in the new year to

1:32:24 ↗ see, you know, what would be of most

1:32:25 ↗ interest and

1:32:28 ↗ so we can prioritize what types of tools

1:32:31 ↗ or electronics that we'd be purchasing

1:32:33 ↗ their equipment. Um, as well as trying

1:32:35 ↗ to build a volunteer uh base that would

1:32:38 ↗ help with uh evaluation of tools and

1:32:41 ↗ repairs as needed. Um, we also want to

1:32:43 ↗ make it kind of a community gathering

1:32:45 ↗ space where there could be workshops and

1:32:47 ↗ different events

1:32:49 ↗ to a library. So, really excited to part

1:32:52 ↗ partner with PCLS on that and um

1:32:55 ↗ possibly have a head of the prototype

1:32:57 ↗ for the rest of their system.

1:33:00 ↗ Those are my major updates. Um,

1:33:05 ↗ thank yeah Karen, anything else for you

1:33:08 ↗ for

1:33:11 ↗ >> Okay, great. Yeah. And then our next

1:33:14 ↗ meeting is January 14th. Um

1:33:20 ↗ probably looking again at the updated

1:33:23 ↗ proposed work plan and then digging into

1:33:26 ↗ that section.

1:33:32 ↗ >> You mentioned tool library and is

1:33:35 ↗ purchasing tools. Um are you also

1:33:37 ↗ planning on having people donate tools

1:33:40 ↗ for

1:33:40 ↗ >> possibly? Yeah, that's that would be a

1:33:42 ↗ proposal um with KCLS. We're working on

1:33:45 ↗ a concept paper with them and that is to

1:33:48 ↗ have donations. It seems like this will

1:33:53 ↗ for sure might be able to get company

1:33:55 ↗ sponsorships too like still you know

1:33:58 ↗ some of these big tool makers that would

1:34:00 ↗ >> give you tools to kind of promote

1:34:02 ↗ >> absolutely

1:34:03 ↗ >> purchase. Yeah. Yeah. Some local large

1:34:07 ↗ stores here at that point. Um yeah,

1:34:12 ↗ >> steel workshop in Criia in a few weeks.

1:34:14 ↗ I could ask if they do that kind of

1:34:16 ↗ thing.

1:34:22 ↗ >> That's it.

1:34:24 ↗ >> Any final words? Anybody?

1:34:25 ↗ >> Yeah. One quick one about the tree

1:34:28 ↗ canopy and the tree met. Um, I saw

1:34:31 ↗ something recently where Belleview did a

1:34:35 ↗ a tree planting with children

1:34:37 ↗ >> and that could have a real big impact on

1:34:41 ↗ on their learning if they were to go to

1:34:45 ↗ a park plant some trees.

1:34:51 ↗ You get to somehow have it a bed for

1:34:55 ↗ school for class

1:34:58 ↗ or even high school.

1:35:00 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:35:06 ↗ >> But maybe a better engagement school.

1:35:10 ↗ Alex has it.

1:35:12 ↗ >> Um, we're planning a tree planting

1:35:15 ↗ called Tots and Trees with Green Isiqua

1:35:17 ↗ in March which is aimed for people with

1:35:19 ↗ pretty with much younger kids like

1:35:21 ↗ toddler age to early elementary school.

1:35:23 ↗ So that'll be the second Saturday in

1:35:26 ↗ March. Um, we'll be hosting that with

1:35:28 ↗ Green Esqua. So those are great events.

1:35:32 ↗ I don't know where yet. That's the

1:35:34 ↗ city's going to figure that out.

1:35:36 ↗ >> That's great. Yeah, I'll find out more

1:35:37 ↗ from Dan.

1:35:38 ↗ >> Great. Um, and Alex, sorry I put you on

1:35:41 ↗ the spot. Do you want to talk at all

1:35:42 ↗ about six PPD or you can hold that for

1:35:46 ↗ another meeting too?

1:35:48 ↗ >> No, if if folks want to hear about um

1:35:50 ↗ 6PD monitoring briefly, I can share some

1:35:53 ↗ pictures of what we've been doing and um

1:35:56 ↗ just briefly. So, uh 6PD quinone is a

1:36:00 ↗ chemical that comes off of tires. Well,

1:36:02 ↗ 6PBD comes off of tires and breaks down

1:36:05 ↗ into 6PBD quinone, which is highly toxic

1:36:08 ↗ to coo and cutthroat salmon and

1:36:10 ↗ potentially other species. So, when we

1:36:12 ↗ have big storm events, this chemical is

1:36:15 ↗ getting washed into our riverways. And

1:36:17 ↗ we are seeing coo in particular

1:36:20 ↗ um dying before they're able to spawn.

1:36:23 ↗ And so, um, Toronto Limited along with a

1:36:27 ↗ number of partners including Washington

1:36:29 ↗ Department of Ecology and King County

1:36:30 ↗ and local municipalities have been

1:36:33 ↗ conducting monitoring throughout the

1:36:35 ↗ region to see where there are hot spots

1:36:38 ↗ for 6PD quinone so that we can

1:36:40 ↗ potentially go and treat the storm water

1:36:44 ↗ runoff in some way or another, either

1:36:46 ↗ through um

1:36:49 ↗ filtration systems that they're working

1:36:51 ↗ on or through natural

1:36:53 ↗ building processes and things like that.

1:36:55 ↗ Um, and so we took on an extra project

1:37:00 ↗ this year where we are monitoring at 20

1:37:03 ↗ sites around Lake Samish and Lake

1:37:04 ↗ Washington. Um, and let me just share my

1:37:07 ↗ screen. I can show

1:37:10 ↗ window. We'll see what I end up

1:37:11 ↗ accidentally opening here.

1:37:14 ↗ Um, they're pretty simple. This is what

1:37:18 ↗ one of the samplers looks like. Um,

1:37:20 ↗ that's my colleague Dave. Um, are you

1:37:23 ↗ seeing my picture right now?

1:37:25 ↗ >> Yes.

1:37:25 ↗ >> Okay. Um, so the sampler, there's these

1:37:28 ↗ three little passive samplers. They're

1:37:31 ↗ just filtrous membranes that collect

1:37:34 ↗ particles in the water as it as it

1:37:36 ↗ passes through them. Um, so they're just

1:37:38 ↗ inside a little steel cage and then

1:37:40 ↗ inside a minnow trap. Um, and we deploy

1:37:43 ↗ these into creeks. Let me find another

1:37:45 ↗ good picture.

1:37:49 ↗ I think there's some in the another

1:37:52 ↗ folder possibly. Um here's one. Um so we

1:37:56 ↗ just deploy these into creeks so that

1:37:58 ↗ the membranes stay underwater. We leave

1:38:01 ↗ them out for 4 to 6 month or 4 to 6

1:38:03 ↗ weeks. Um and then we go out and pull

1:38:06 ↗ them and send them off to department of

1:38:07 ↗ ecology to get processed. And so we're

1:38:11 ↗ getting a timew weighted

1:38:14 ↗ sample um and can look back and see over

1:38:17 ↗ this time period we saw you know this

1:38:20 ↗ much 6 PPDQ collected

1:38:23 ↗ over um a 4 to 6 week period and and how

1:38:26 ↗ many storm events that happens to cover.

1:38:30 ↗ Um so that can just kind of help us

1:38:31 ↗ determine where we might want to focus

1:38:34 ↗ some of those efforts. Um so this is

1:38:37 ↗ ongoing. We don't have anything deployed

1:38:38 ↗ right now and I'm I'm glad that we

1:38:40 ↗ pulled everything because it would have

1:38:42 ↗ gotten lost

1:38:44 ↗ um in this most recent flood event and

1:38:47 ↗ the potential flooding events coming up.

1:38:49 ↗ But we'll be redeploying in January and

1:38:52 ↗ going throughout the springtime to catch

1:38:54 ↗ additional storm events. We're also kind

1:38:57 ↗ of interested in seeing differences

1:38:59 ↗ between that first storm event in the

1:39:01 ↗ fall to see like what's built up over

1:39:03 ↗ the summertime, how much you're getting

1:39:05 ↗ with that first storm event versus

1:39:07 ↗ towards the end of the season when we've

1:39:09 ↗ had a lot of storm events and

1:39:10 ↗ potentially are having less concentrated

1:39:12 ↗ amounts going into creeks um at

1:39:15 ↗ different time periods or based on how

1:39:16 ↗ much how much flow we're getting into

1:39:18 ↗ the stream systems. Um, another update

1:39:21 ↗ is that you will likely be seeing

1:39:24 ↗ something coming out of a bill coming

1:39:26 ↗ into the legislature this year um to

1:39:30 ↗ work on the long-term solution for 6PD

1:39:33 ↗ quinon. So, this is Trout Unlimited is

1:39:36 ↗ helping to develop this bill, working

1:39:38 ↗ with um

1:39:41 ↗ uh it's a local isqua representative

1:39:43 ↗ that I can't think of his name right now

1:39:45 ↗ who is potentially going to sponsor the

1:39:47 ↗ bill. um but to begin to remove it from

1:39:51 ↗ tires. Um so this will implement a ban

1:39:55 ↗ from it in tires in 2035

1:39:59 ↗ and work on a fee on tires with 6 PPD in

1:40:03 ↗ them in the meantime to get folks to

1:40:06 ↗ begin removing them from the

1:40:10 ↗ production. Um, good news is is that

1:40:13 ↗ there's a number of companies that have

1:40:14 ↗ identified alternative chemicals to use

1:40:17 ↗ in place of 6TPD. So, we're hopeful that

1:40:19 ↗ this turnover will begin happening

1:40:22 ↗ sooner rather than later. Um, and we'll

1:40:25 ↗ be able to see that in the manufacturing

1:40:26 ↗ process and then eventually in 2035,

1:40:29 ↗ we'll for sure have tires without this

1:40:32 ↗ chemical in them.

1:40:34 ↗ >> Is it Zach that's working on it? Nice.

1:40:38 ↗ >> Yes, I believe so. Yeah.

1:40:41 ↗ Alex, did you have you sent any results

1:40:43 ↗ any samples off to ecology and got

1:40:45 ↗ results back yet?

1:40:47 ↗ >> We have not gotten results back yet. Um,

1:40:49 ↗ we're kind of waiting on the ecologies

1:40:51 ↗ lab to get those. They're also doing the

1:40:52 ↗ regional survey. Their their stuff is

1:40:55 ↗ going out less regularly. So, they had

1:40:57 ↗ one sampling event in the springtime

1:40:59 ↗ that covered about a six week period and

1:41:01 ↗ then one in this fall time that covered

1:41:03 ↗ about a six week period. Whereas, we are

1:41:05 ↗ going out cons more consistently. Um,

1:41:08 ↗ but we haven't gotten any data yet from

1:41:10 ↗ those. I hope that we will have that

1:41:12 ↗ information soon. Um, but just kind of

1:41:14 ↗ as a reference in Isiqua, we have two

1:41:17 ↗ samplers on Isiqua Creek, one at the

1:41:19 ↗ hatchery, one below the um, Parkway. We

1:41:23 ↗ have one on Lewis Creek or we have two

1:41:25 ↗ on Lewis Creek above and below um, I90.

1:41:31 ↗ Um, over on

1:41:35 ↗ Hans Jensen or not Hans Jensen, sorry.

1:41:37 ↗ Laughing Jacobs, one on Ebrite, um and

1:41:40 ↗ then we have some up north on

1:41:43 ↗ uh Bear Creek and Wanita Creek and then

1:41:46 ↗ over on the Cedar um and in Cole Creek

1:41:48 ↗ as well.

1:41:50 ↗ And then a couple more on the the east

1:41:53 ↗ side of Lake Washington, too.

1:41:55 ↗ >> That's good to hear. We'll share that

1:41:57 ↗ with the regional storm water groups

1:42:00 ↗ >> on a storm water effort. 6BD's also been

1:42:02 ↗ a very hot topic quite some time. Um, so

1:42:06 ↗ the storm water folks have been working

1:42:08 ↗ on how to treat 6P to get it out of the

1:42:11 ↗ system before it gets into the streams.

1:42:13 ↗ We found some some devices that work.

1:42:15 ↗ Bio remediation works fairly well. Um,

1:42:18 ↗ just think of, you know, running water

1:42:21 ↗ through a sand and compost filter.

1:42:23 ↗ Basically, it grabs 6PD and it doesn't

1:42:26 ↗ allow it to go any further and just

1:42:28 ↗ traps it. So, that in the simplest form

1:42:31 ↗ works quite well. and they're testing

1:42:32 ↗ all sorts of other filtration devices

1:42:35 ↗ right now. There's there's probably

1:42:38 ↗ eight to 10 if not more studies going on

1:42:41 ↗ on 6PD. We know currently in storm

1:42:44 ↗ water. Um ecology is putting a ton of

1:42:47 ↗ money into this as well. has uh the

1:42:50 ↗ stormwater work group where the permites

1:42:53 ↗ under that NPS pay in fees and then the

1:42:56 ↗ the work group issues out

1:43:00 ↗ studies study research funds after so

1:43:04 ↗ it's a big topic and there's um there's

1:43:06 ↗ a subgroup on the other side Alex I

1:43:08 ↗ don't know if you're aware of called the

1:43:09 ↗ six PBD subgroup under ecology and those

1:43:12 ↗ meetings are usually 200 and so on

1:43:15 ↗ people

1:43:16 ↗ >> talk about this very top. So, it's being

1:43:19 ↗ moved on breast.

1:43:23 ↗ >> Alex, do you need uh any more volunteers

1:43:25 ↗ in the field for testing?

1:43:27 ↗ >> I would love more volunteers. Yes, we

1:43:29 ↗ did have some come out with us. Um not

1:43:31 ↗ this last sampling event, but the

1:43:33 ↗ sampling event before that. So, yeah, if

1:43:35 ↗ anyone's interested, you can shoot me an

1:43:37 ↗ email and um we can talk about logistics

1:43:39 ↗ around that.

1:43:41 ↗ >> We'll do. Thanks.

1:43:42 ↗ >> Thanks.

1:43:43 ↗ >> This is all super exciting.

1:43:46 ↗ It's good stuff.

1:43:49 ↗ >> I have a question.

1:43:51 ↗ >> Once it gets in the sand, does anybody

1:43:52 ↗ know how long it lives there?

1:43:55 ↗ >> Once it gets into the what?

1:43:56 ↗ >> The sand. So, it must deteriorate

1:43:59 ↗ it to a point where it it's non-toxic by

1:44:02 ↗ a certain point.

1:44:03 ↗ >> I don't know the halflife of the

1:44:05 ↗ chemical. I could ask some of the

1:44:07 ↗ scientists that are working on it.

1:44:10 ↗ What it does, it gets inside the fish's

1:44:12 ↗ brain and confuses them and they get

1:44:16 ↗ disoriented and they lose track of where

1:44:18 ↗ they're going. They flip upside down and

1:44:19 ↗ bang into things. They just never make

1:44:22 ↗ it to spawn. It used to be called

1:44:23 ↗ pre-spawn mortality. They knew what was

1:44:26 ↗ happen.

1:44:28 ↗ And it was local researchers that found

1:44:36 ↗ >> hearing about it for Larry Frank.

1:44:41 ↗ >> So happens that there's all this good

1:44:43 ↗ news to hear.

1:44:49 ↗ >> Thank you, Alex.

1:44:50 ↗ >> Yeah. Thank you.

1:44:52 ↗ >> With that, we'll call the meeting.

1:44:55 ↗ Thanks everyone.

1:44:57 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:45:00 ↗ >> Thanks everyone.

1:45:02 ↗ >> Thanks Alex

1:45:06 ↗ Stacey.

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