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City Council Regular Meeting 7:00 PM - Tuesday, February 5, 2019 (Continued from Feb. 4, 2019 Regular Meeting) Pickering Room, City Hall NW, 1775 12th Ave. N.W. Page 1. CALL TO ORDER 2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 3. SPECIAL BUSINESS 5 ID 0374 - Youth Advisory Board a) Presentation Hear Presentation 7 - 52 AB 7710 - Council Vacancy, Council Position b) No. 4 Appoint; Conduct Oath of Office **5 min. Break** 4. AUDIENCE COMMENTS 5. COMMITTEE / REGIONAL REPORTS 6. MAYOR'S REPORT 7. CONSENT CALENDAR 53 - 135 a) ID 0324 - Accounts: Payables and Payroll of Feb. 4, 2019, $ 3,612,722.10 Approve 137 b) Minutes: City Council Special Meeting, Jan. 22, 2019 Approve 139 - 141 c) Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, Jan. 22, 2019 Approve Page 1 of 210

Tuesday, February 5, 2019

Pickering Room, City Hall NW, 1775 12th Ave. N.W.
Topics tracked across meetings:
Cemetery Fee Increase, Amending IMC 2.20.040 Postpone Indefinitely AB 7723 13/15
Criminal Code, Amending IMC 9.05 AB 7702 2/3
2019 Docket of Comprehensive Plan Amendments AB 7726 3/3
Front Street Streetscape Phase 1 Project AB 7715 2/2
Section
Topic
7. CONSENT CALENDAR
7a
Accounts: Payables and Payroll of Feb. 4, 2019, $ 3,612,722.10 ID 0324
Carried 7-0
Approve · packet pp.53–135
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
Finance Department P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 PH: 425-837-3050 www.issaquahwa.gov
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein
7b
Minutes: City Council Special Meeting, Jan. 22, 2019
Carried 7-0
Approve · packet pp.137
Staff report:
CONSENT CALENDAR b) 01-22-19 City Council Special Meeting Minutes Page (0000)
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein
7c
Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, Jan. 22, 2019
Carried 7-0
Approve · packet pp.139–141
Staff report:
CONSENT CALENDAR c) 01-22-19 City Council Regular Meeting Minutes Page (0000)
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein
7d
Minutes: Council Committee-of-the-Whole, Jan. 29, 2019
Carried 7-0
Accept Grant · packet pp.143
Staff report:
CONSENT CALENDAR d) 01-29-19 Committee-of-the-Whole Council Minutes Page (0000)
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein
7f
Criminal Code, Amending IMC AB 7702
Carried 7-0
Refer to Council Services & Safety · packet pp.185–191
Topics: Land UsePublic Safety
Staff report:
In 1985, sections of the RCW adopted into the City’s Criminal Code (IMC 9.05) to allow the City to prosecute certain crimes.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein
7g
Cemetery Fee Increase, Amending IMC 2.20.040 AB 7723
Carried 7-0
Refer to Council Services & Safety · packet pp.193–197
Topics: Land UsePublic SafetyBudget
Staff report:
The City's Upper and Lower Hillside cemeteries are maintained and improved by the Parks and Recreation Department, Park Operations Division, to ensure the safety and beauty of these facilities. The administration of the City cemeteries is vested in the Cemetery Board. The Board is responsible for the care, improvement and use of the cemetery property.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein
7h
2019 Docket of Comprehensive Plan Amendments AB 7726
Carried 7-0
Refer to Council Land & Shore Committee · packet pp.199–204
Topics: Land Use
Staff report:
The PPC public hearing on the docket occurred on Jan. 24, 2019. After the close of the public hearing, the PPC made a
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein
8. REGULAR BUSINESS
8a
Front Street Streetscape Phase 1 Project AB 7715
Failed 1-6
Authorize · packet pp.205–207
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
In 2016, the City improved sidewalks and drainage along the east side of Front Street North between NE Alder and Sunset Way. This project corrected drainage problems, widened sidewalks, removed existing trees, and installed conduit under the new sidewalks to provide for irrigation to future landscaping. During 2016, an Olde Town Task Force developed the Downtown Streetscape Concept Plan for Front Street North and Alder Street areas.
Roll call:
Moved by HUNT · seconded by GOODMAN
In favor: Hunt
Opposed: Bettise, Marts, Reh
9. GOOD OF THE ORDER
9a
Council Appointments Provided by: Tola Marts, Council President ID 0404
packet pp.209–210
Topics: Boards & Commissions
Staff report:
Infrastructure Land & Shore Services & Safety Adhoc Long Term Financial
9b
Upcoming Council Meetings
0:02 uh welcome everyone
0:03 i would like to call the february 5th
0:05 regular city council meeting to order
0:07 due to inclement weather last night's
0:10 regular council meeting
0:11 was rescheduled to this evening the
0:14 council chambers was booked
0:16 for another meeting tonight so we are
0:18 holding our meeting here
0:19 at pickering room at city hall northwest
0:22 so a few things about this room it's a
0:24 little different than council chambers
0:26 we do have
0:26 microphones but you do have to speak
0:28 loudly to be heard
0:31 sidebar conversations or conversations
0:33 in the audience can hurt the quality of
0:35 the tape so i ask everybody to
0:38 not have conversations while we are
0:40 recording
0:43 uh usually we typically do the pledge of
0:45 allegiance to begin our meetings however
0:47 since we have moved this meeting
0:49 uh to an available room where we could
0:52 have video
0:52 capabilities we do not have a flag and
0:56 in this venue we will not be doing our
0:57 customary practice of
0:59 starting our meeting by reciting the
1:01 pledge of allegiance
1:03 the first item on our agenda is special
1:05 business we were to have
1:07 id 0374 youth advisory board
1:10 presentation
1:11 this item has been delayed to an
1:13 upcoming council meeting
1:14 and the next item on our agenda is
1:17 ab7710
1:19 council vacancy for council position
1:21 number four
1:23 at the january 7th council meeting we
1:25 had the opportunity to hear from the
1:27 five individuals who applied for the
1:28 council vacancy
1:30 council and i also had the opportunity
1:32 to speak with the applicants at an
1:33 informal community meet and greet on
1:35 january 22nd
1:37 two of the applicants rachel cox and
1:40 mary harris have since withdrawn from
1:42 consideration
1:45 and tonight council will have the
1:47 opportunity to appoint one of the
1:49 remaining three applicants
1:51 however first the applicants have been
1:53 asked to participate in a question and
1:55 answer session
1:56 the process will be each council member
2:00 will have the option to pose a question
2:02 this evening each applicant will then
2:04 get one minute
2:05 to respond names were randomly drawn
2:08 in advanced by the clerk's office to
2:09 determine the order of response
2:12 applicants will respond to the first
2:13 question in the following order
2:15 michelle kemper lindsey walsh and
2:17 catherine hurt
2:19 the first to respond will then rotate
2:21 and lindsay will then respond
2:23 first to the second question asked
2:25 catherine to the third question asked
2:28 so for council members we will be
2:30 starting with council member hunt and
2:32 working our way
2:33 towards the council president i ask
2:36 that each council member read their
2:38 question to the panelists and then pass
2:40 a copy over for the clerk and myself to
2:43 be able to repeat it
2:44 for uh who's ever answering second and
2:47 third do you have any questions
2:51 council members do you have any
2:52 questions
2:54 council member ray since we have such a
2:56 small not touchable a smaller group of
2:59 panelists
2:59 and time would it be possible to have a
3:02 little longer
3:04 answer period possibly 90 seconds
3:06 instead of a minute
3:07 so i'm just going to look at the clerk
3:09 and see if there's any reason why we
3:11 wouldn't be able to do that and then
3:13 allow you to discuss it with your
3:14 fellow council members so long as
3:16 there's not an objection from
3:18 the council okay council what are you
3:20 thinking about
3:22 if we increase the amount of time for
3:23 each candidate to answer to 90 seconds
3:25 to give them a little more opportunity
3:27 to hash out some details
3:29 sounds good okay with it sure good sing
3:31 all head knots
3:32 you'll have 90 seconds to answer the
3:34 question tina will be keeping track
3:36 and are you going to give them any sort
3:38 of warning when they're near the end can
3:40 you give them a 15 second warning
3:42 perhaps
3:42 do my best to give you a 15 second one
3:46 is there anything else or are there any
3:47 other questions
3:49 okay council member hunt right
3:52 um my question is about affordable
3:55 housing which applies to those making 30
3:57 to 80 percent
3:58 of the king county median income and my
4:01 question is what are your thoughts on
4:03 the mix of rental and ownership housing
4:05 particularly affordable housing in the
4:07 city
4:08 and what can and should the city do and
4:11 what are some metrics that we could
4:12 track
4:17 okay a couple of points on that one
4:21 in terms of not in the sequence that you
4:24 asked but in terms of what the city is
4:25 doing
4:26 the tod down by comcast
4:30 that location which is roughly a 50 50
4:33 combination of
4:35 rental and ownership i think is a good
4:37 way for the city to do a mix
4:40 that is my opinion on how we should be
4:41 approaching affordable housing in other
4:43 areas as well
4:44 i think when it's a concentrated heavier
4:47 percent on affordable
4:48 it changes the dynamics of the
4:50 neighborhood
4:52 closer to a 50 50 combination of
4:55 ownership
4:56 and rental
4:59 thank you michelle lindsey would you
5:02 like me to reread the question
5:03 sure it's about affordable housing which
5:06 applies to those making 30 to 80 percent
5:08 of the king county median income what
5:10 are your thoughts on the mix of rental
5:11 and ownership housing
5:13 particularly affordable housing in the
5:14 city what can
5:16 should the city do and what are some
5:18 metrics that we could track as a city
5:20 related to affordable housing excellent
5:24 um i would agree with michelle that our
5:26 tod project
5:27 down by the transit center is a great
5:29 way for us to
5:31 add in a large chunk of affordable
5:33 housing much like we did with the ywca
5:35 down at the bottom of the highlands
5:38 for that in general i very much support
5:41 arch and our contribution to that as a
5:44 way to
5:45 get those larger groupings of affordable
5:48 housing
5:49 i also i think we've done a pretty good
5:52 job
5:52 of development agreements in the
5:55 highlands and telus
5:56 and in other areas in
5:59 having an inclusionary zoning
6:03 piece in it that creates the affordable
6:06 housing i think we have to have a mix
6:08 between the 30 and 80 percent
6:10 and we've maybe done a better job at the
6:12 top
6:13 of that without getting to the bottom
6:15 which really helps with our
6:17 retail and other workers that are
6:19 working in the city that currently can't
6:21 afford to live there
6:22 as far as rental and ownership i think
6:24 we need both
6:25 i think more of the ownership is going
6:27 to come maybe
6:29 from improvements to the condo laws
6:32 and our ability to get those as far as
6:35 metrics i would look
6:36 at numbers created both within and
6:40 without development agreements
6:41 and also the number of bedrooms so that
6:43 we're making sure that we're getting
6:45 some for families and not just
6:46 individuals thank you lindsay catherine
6:49 would you like me to reread the question
6:53 the question is about affordable housing
6:54 which applies to those making 30 to 80
6:57 percent of the king county median income
6:59 what are your thoughts on the mix of
7:00 rental and ownership housing
7:02 particularly affordable housing in the
7:04 city what can and should the city do
7:07 and what are some metrics that we would
7:09 track as a city related to affordable
7:11 housing
7:13 so not to also just
7:16 agree and agree but i i do agree with
7:18 the uh
7:19 tod project which i learned about really
7:21 recently
7:22 um and with the 50 50 model um i also
7:25 to focus more on metrics because i would
7:28 want to learn more about kind of where
7:30 we're at and where we want to go
7:33 so looking at in rental
7:37 number of bedrooms is this
7:40 when rents are increasing by how much
7:43 is that something that we can
7:46 encourage to change how do we want to
7:50 look at that in the future because i
7:52 have seen personally
7:54 high increases in rent there and
7:58 a lot of that is state law but to just
8:00 look at where we're at as a city and
8:02 where we can
8:04 go in the future
8:07 as far as inclusion in development
8:11 agreements we
8:12 we have people who want to develop here
8:14 and those are good
8:16 good problems to have and look at the
8:18 agreements that
8:19 we form i think that the city has done a
8:21 good job of that
8:23 currently and to include that
8:27 going forward 15 seconds thank you
8:30 thank you catherine council member ray
8:33 well congratulations and
8:34 so excited to have the three of you here
8:36 this evening can you give us an example
8:38 of where you've had to do
8:40 or to use i'm going to use our quotes
8:42 active listening
8:44 to help a group work through a difficult
8:46 situation or a problem
8:48 and we will start with lindsay
8:53 well right now or for the past five
8:55 years i've been a
8:56 girl scout leader for a troop and that's
8:59 definitely an area that requires a lot
9:00 of active listening
9:02 uh taken my daughter's troupe from
9:04 kindergarten up through fifth grade
9:07 and we have had certainly sometimes
9:09 particularly when we have taken trips
9:11 with the girls
9:12 that have created periods where
9:15 you know the girls are having
9:17 disagreements and we want to get them
9:19 together but we also want to teach them
9:21 how to work through a problem so it's
9:24 not just the adults girl scouts is all
9:26 about
9:27 not just the adults leading but
9:29 encouraging the girls growth
9:31 and so in those situations we're sitting
9:34 with groups of girls that are having a
9:36 disagreement
9:37 and not telling them what to do but
9:40 rather taking that moment and saying
9:42 okay let's hear from one side let's hear
9:44 from the other side
9:45 now did you hear what they said and
9:47 repeating it back
9:48 and so i think that's a really good
9:49 example of taking a situation that
9:52 maybe you're referring to in the case of
9:54 adults and looking back
9:56 at children and actually teaching them
9:58 that method as well
10:00 thank you lindsay catherine would you
10:02 like me to read the question no i think
10:04 i got it um so
10:08 as you all know i'm an attorney
10:12 i work with a lot of clients and so
10:15 the obvious answer for me is working
10:18 with clients to
10:19 assess not only the solution to their
10:22 problem but to assess even what their
10:24 problem is in the first place
10:26 and also to work with then
10:29 understanding what my client's issue is
10:31 and when i'm working with an opposing
10:32 counsel
10:33 to work with active listening to see
10:36 what
10:37 the opposing counsel's view on the
10:40 problem is
10:41 because often times what i see when i'm
10:44 working through a problem
10:45 is that both sides haven't defined the
10:48 problem the same way
10:49 so as soon as we can kind of understand
10:52 how everyone sees the problem
10:54 then we can start that's usually when
10:57 i'm working in mediation and things like
10:59 that that's when we really start to get
11:01 some traction
11:02 on uh progress
11:05 towards a mutual agreeable settlement or
11:08 goal
11:10 so that's when i am working through a
11:13 problem here
11:14 i like to see what is my definition of
11:17 the problem what is my definition of the
11:18 solution
11:19 can i identify rules regulations laws
11:24 facts to get myself from point a to
11:27 point b
11:28 and the best way that i know how to do
11:30 that is to
11:31 listen to people who are much more
11:33 expert than i am
11:35 to get there thank you thank you
11:36 catherine michelle would you like me to
11:38 repeat the question no i think i'm there
11:41 as you know i'm a retired executive in
11:43 the financial services industry so
11:45 active listening takes on a different
11:48 mantra there when you're the senior
11:49 officer at the table
11:51 most of the people around the table have
11:52 to listen to me so that's not a good
11:54 example
11:55 so i'm going to use one from my
11:56 volunteer roles one of the volunteer
11:58 activities that i've done over the years
12:00 is i'm a advocate for a senior
12:04 who is moving from a hospital setting to
12:07 a convalescent setting
12:08 to possibly a nursing home or other
12:10 long-term care or hopefully
12:12 back to their home and when you're
12:14 listening to the patient
12:15 you have to be very careful in
12:16 understanding senior issues
12:19 as they're navigating the health care
12:21 issues
12:22 their independence you've got family
12:24 members at the table
12:25 who are not only looking at what their
12:28 role might be changing in terms of their
12:29 long-term responsibilities for that
12:31 senior care
12:32 you also have the medical professionals
12:34 who have got rules that they have to
12:35 abide by in terms of when and how
12:37 a senior is going to be moved from point
12:39 a to point b through our medical systems
12:41 and then you have money and you have
12:43 insurance and you have long-term care
12:45 plans
12:46 so it's a the the act of listening as
12:49 the
12:49 advocate for the senior is not just
12:51 listening to all the others around them
12:53 it's being the advocate for the senior
12:55 so that their voice is heard 15 seconds
12:58 and i think the listening skills when
13:00 you're listening to someone who has an
13:01 emotional
13:03 stake in what's happening in their
13:04 future is a different set of listening
13:06 skills
13:07 than when you're sitting at the table as
13:08 a senior officer in a financial services
13:10 company
13:11 thank you michelle councilmember
13:14 winterstein
13:16 thank you that's remember goodman i was
13:18 going to pass too
13:32 as we work through our strategic plan
13:36 and start to focus on economic vitality
13:39 we've been discussing
13:40 jobs and job growth what are your
13:43 thoughts and potential solutions
13:46 regarding
13:46 job growth in issaquah thank you
13:51 we are going to start this time with
13:52 katherine
13:55 um actually i
13:58 i have i guess
14:02 reference a conversation i had with uh
14:04 council member ray
14:05 he and i talked about trying to
14:08 nourish the population
14:12 of our community that works from home
14:14 looking at
14:15 how can we help support those who work
14:18 from home
14:20 to increase our economic vitality in
14:23 issaquah with people who
14:24 are already here and whether that is
14:27 looking into supporting wework
14:32 a wework building coming in if you are
14:35 unfamiliar with wework it is where
14:37 if you work from home you can rent a
14:39 space or pay
14:41 to go in and have an office that is a
14:44 shared
14:45 office where lots of different people
14:47 work
14:48 in different areas so looking
14:52 at that or supporting others who work
14:55 from home but also looking at
14:58 different uh businesses who would like
15:00 to come into issaquah i would want to
15:02 talk to the businesses who have already
15:04 opened and are successful here
15:06 do what made them open here why do they
15:10 stay here what are the things that help
15:12 them to stay here and what are the
15:14 things that our hindrances so that when
15:16 we are looking to attract additional
15:18 businesses
15:20 we know those things going forward thank
15:22 you thank you catherine
15:23 michelle would you like me to reread the
15:25 question yes please
15:27 as we work through our strategic plan
15:29 and focus on
15:30 economic vitality we have been
15:32 discussing jobs
15:33 and job growth what are your thoughts
15:36 solutions regarding
15:37 job growth thank you this is probably
15:40 the
15:40 number one reason why i threw my hat in
15:42 the ring uh
15:43 for consideration for a council seat um
15:46 i think that it's
15:47 a three-prong approach i think we've got
15:49 about five major employers
15:51 and my hats off to the city and its
15:52 support role with our major employer
15:54 groups
15:56 we also have the small to medium-sized
15:58 companies i think our focus there with
16:00 our chamber
16:01 and with activities in terms of
16:03 promoting
16:04 as they've authored in their 2002 and
16:07 2012
16:08 update on the economic vitality for the
16:10 small employer
16:11 they've asked for everything from
16:13 marketing training to internet
16:15 and social media help in terms of how to
16:17 get the word out on the small employer
16:20 and the role that we have between the
16:22 council and with our chamber and with
16:23 our medium to small
16:25 companies i think would be my number one
16:27 focus and then i think the third
16:29 is today's economic vitality for an
16:32 employer is
16:34 something we don't know what it is is it
16:36 e-commerce is it working from home
16:38 you know what is the company of tomorrow
16:41 and i think one of the opportunities
16:43 issaquah has is to plan
16:44 for tomorrow and not replicate the brick
16:46 and mortar
16:47 that we have in uh our small town field
16:50 today
16:51 thank you michelle lindsay would you
16:53 like me to reread the question
16:55 got it okay so as a 15-year business
16:58 owner myself i've
16:59 been through this i've you know had to
17:02 work through the growth
17:04 working from home and figuring out
17:06 hiring and all of that
17:07 i will take a slightly different tact
17:10 which is as a business owner i
17:12 understand what the taxes situation is
17:15 i feel very comfortable with issaquah's
17:18 bno tax rate
17:19 what i would like to see is being able
17:22 to do that application online
17:24 i can do that for the state i can do
17:26 that for federal i can't
17:27 do that for the city and that's a
17:31 monthly
17:32 pain or a quarterly pain um the other
17:35 thing i would say is
17:37 since we're talking about the strategic
17:38 plan we really want to get down to the
17:40 metrics so i know we know what our
17:42 current job numbers are i'd like to see
17:44 a little bit more on trends as far as a
17:46 dashboard on that
17:47 what is the growth rate and particularly
17:50 are they coming from the small to medium
17:52 business
17:52 the work from home or from our larger
17:55 employers
17:56 and thus that helps set the ideas of how
17:59 we want
18:00 to work with each of these in order to
18:02 pursue that growth
18:03 i'd also say our chamber of commerce
18:05 does an excellent job they
18:07 are rearing at the bit to help us out
18:09 with this and i would love to see
18:11 more engagement more welcoming from the
18:15 city
18:15 to bring their ideas in particularly
18:19 on the growth idea thank you lindsay
18:22 council president martz thank you all
18:25 right
18:26 if you could secure a one-time one
18:29 million dollar federal grant for the
18:31 city
18:32 to be spent on anything operations or
18:35 capital
18:36 what would you pick and i believe this
18:40 question is starting with michelle
18:42 dangle a millionaire
18:46 kid in the candy store here
18:50 i think i would put it on infrastructure
18:54 i think it's very important that
18:58 we have the infrastructure by that i
19:00 mean our police our safety
19:03 first responders our schools our
19:07 our parks the whole structure of what is
19:10 issaquah
19:12 once that funding's in place then with
19:14 the money left over
19:15 i'd like to see something innovative
19:17 that these small to medium-sized
19:19 business companies can step forward and
19:21 look for grant money to help them
19:23 whether it's in the arts the theater
19:25 or in bringing in something new and
19:27 creative that will bring tourism into
19:29 into esqua
19:32 lindsey would you like me to reread the
19:33 question
19:36 so um i think we've heard pretty clearly
19:40 from our the citizens of issaquah that
19:43 traffic and congestion is a major major
19:45 issue
19:46 most of those projects weigh more than a
19:48 million dollars
19:49 so they're not on the table things like
19:53 at providence point putting the light in
19:54 things like that that we know are on our
19:56 agenda
19:57 but what i would like to do is
20:01 since it's a million dollar gift
20:04 use it for something that you're going
20:06 to be able to grow further in the future
20:08 so much like the test that we did with
20:11 the old down
20:11 old town traffic calming which was a low
20:15 cost
20:15 area where we could test things out see
20:18 if they work before putting the bigger
20:20 money in we know where our problem areas
20:22 are in the city
20:23 and so if we were able to take that
20:25 million dollars and roll
20:27 out some tests whether that was extra
20:29 crosswalks or
20:31 protected bike lanes or anything like
20:33 that that would allow us to
20:35 gather the data which often gets
20:38 pushed off because we don't have the
20:40 money for that
20:41 in order to figure out is this something
20:44 that's going to make a dent
20:47 for a budget that we could put forth
20:49 from the general fund or something going
20:51 forward
20:52 thank you nancy catherine i was actually
20:54 going to say something really similar to
20:57 lindsay uh with a million dollar grant
21:00 yeah you can't
21:01 do a ton with
21:04 a million dollar in as far as the
21:06 traffic situation
21:08 but you can collect a bunch of data
21:12 you can yeah
21:15 put this money into something that we
21:17 wouldn't otherwise
21:20 necessarily see the immediate benefit
21:23 and
21:24 growth to so by getting something to
21:28 yeah see something that can grow into
21:31 a better idea so that we know exactly or
21:34 or we know with
21:35 better confidence how much something is
21:37 going to cost
21:39 and doing the homework on that um
21:44 that's what i would want to do it for
21:47 seeing
21:49 putting in the research the data to see
21:51 how much something's going to
21:53 cost in the future thank you catherine
21:56 so we have given each of our council
21:58 members an opportunity to ask a question
22:00 thank you for your thoughtful questions
22:02 thank you for participating on the panel
22:05 and tina thank you for your timekeeping
22:06 that was awesome
22:08 right now the council has um
22:11 choices you can proceed to nominations
22:16 you can also decide as a council body to
22:19 go into executive session and discuss
22:21 qualifications and come back
22:23 to the live session to proceed with
22:27 nominations so it's really up to you now
22:29 what you would like to do next
22:32 any suggestions
22:36 anybody interested in an executive
22:37 session i am
22:40 uh is that the will of the body then
22:42 let's enter executive session
22:43 let's do that okay we're going to be
22:46 entering executive session do we need to
22:47 state an amount of time
22:49 we do okay should we start with 20
22:52 minutes
22:56 okay great 20 minutes
23:00 now you do remember you can't come back
23:02 we cannot come back early
23:04 so you're good with 20 do we want to do
23:07 15.
23:08 you can always extend but you cannot
23:11 leave
23:11 the room early 17 15. okay we will
23:14 proceed into executive session for 15
23:16 minutes
23:19 so we are back on air um we have
23:22 returned from the executive session
23:23 where the council was considering
23:25 qualifications
23:26 and discussing qualifications um i'm
23:29 gonna
23:29 explain a little bit about process
23:31 before i open it up for nominations
23:33 so the process will be i will open it up
23:35 for nominations and we will
23:38 see which candidates are nominated
23:41 when we close the nominations
23:45 we will then take a voice vote on all
23:48 those that were nominated
23:50 do you have any questions nominations do
23:53 or do not require a second
23:55 they do not they do not just so
23:57 everybody
23:58 good question and then you have the
24:00 opportunity to
24:02 close the nomination process by vote or
24:06 as long as there's no objection on
24:08 closing the nomination
24:10 so you have two routes on closing
24:15 are there any other questions about the
24:17 process before we begin
24:21 seeing none i now open the nominations
24:24 for oh
24:24 i have one remember no worries so
24:28 we'll do nominations we'll close
24:29 nominations and then you said we would
24:30 go into a vote is there
24:32 any kind of deliberations before there
24:34 is discussion before you vote
24:36 so there will be an opportunity for
24:38 those that nominated
24:39 to provide some information to the rest
24:42 of the council members on why they
24:43 chose to do the nomination
24:49 okay i have a question about the process
24:51 um i saw a note in there about
24:53 your view on tie breaking do you want to
24:57 elaborate that before so in the event of
25:00 a tie there are several
25:02 options that the council has to consider
25:04 one is to go back into executive session
25:06 and talk to each other again for 15
25:08 minutes
25:10 another would be for them to i'm going
25:12 to use the wrong word
25:14 move it forward will spawn or continue
25:17 continue to a date certain
25:21 which would allow you more opportunity
25:23 to engage with
25:25 the different applicants and the third
25:27 option is that the mayor can break a tie
25:30 so i'm going to strongly encourage you
25:32 to do one
25:33 and two i think that we have really good
25:37 candidates and i think you've had the
25:38 opportunity to
25:40 touch base with them and talk with them
25:42 and should be able to select one of the
25:44 three for the position
25:47 good question any other questions about
25:49 process before we open it up for
25:51 nominations
25:52 i'm sure that's the president i just i
25:54 and i don't want to put words in your
25:55 mouth but i just i read it
25:57 i read in here in the event of an
25:58 initial thai vote mayor polly has opted
26:00 to temporarily waive her right to break
26:02 the tie so in a first vote that's going
26:04 those two other options which is i'll
26:06 encourage you to go into executive
26:08 session
26:09 and i will also ask you to consider
26:10 whether or not you would like to
26:11 postpone
26:12 that's what that means okay i just
26:14 wanted to do it no that's good that's a
26:16 different way so thank you for asking
26:17 that
26:18 any other questions on process
26:21 okay i know they're excited so here we
26:24 i now open the nominations for council
26:27 position number four
26:28 council member we're interested i'd like
26:30 to nominate michelle kemper
26:33 you are there any other nominations
26:39 council member hunt nominate lindsay
26:41 walsh
26:43 thank you are there any other
26:50 nominations is there a
26:52 motion to close nominations nominations
26:56 okay it's been moved and seconded all
26:59 those in favor of closing nominations
27:00 for council position number four
27:02 signify by saying aye aye let's opposed
27:06 that passes unanimously council
27:09 discussion
27:11 so before we vote on the first nominee
27:14 is there any discussion and council
27:16 member winter stein i'll
27:17 start with you say something thank you i
27:20 don't have prepared remarks
27:24 always extremely grateful for anybody
27:25 who steps forward and says
27:27 i'd like to serve the public in this way
27:29 we all know it's not an uh
27:31 you know it's a difficult job very
27:32 demanding it's also an opportunity that
27:35 comes around on a pretty regular basis
27:37 and there are different routes on which
27:39 to get here
27:40 and i know you're all very well versed
27:41 in that
27:43 my nomination of michelle is is an
27:46 expression and a belief
27:48 that what you represent and what you
27:51 would mean to this council in the city
27:53 i think best uh meets what
27:56 i believe is necessary and at the same
27:59 time and in no way it's not an
28:01 expression
28:02 at all about my perception of the
28:04 qualifications for
28:05 for either of you um uh you'll i'll say
28:08 it and you'll probably hear it again
28:10 tonight as well
28:11 that all of you possess uh
28:14 lindsay and katie as well the capability
28:17 the tools the potential the kind of
28:18 things that i know could serve this city
28:20 well on this council and serve our
28:22 citizens and work with the rest of us
28:23 there's no doubt in my mind but
28:26 i nominated michelle um
28:30 for principally because of the
28:33 um and i and i used a word earlier i'm
28:36 going to use a different word
28:38 but i look up at the makeup of this
28:40 council our strengths
28:42 our backgrounds what we bring together
28:44 how we work
28:45 uh and i truly believe in in a
28:49 marketplace
28:50 a way in which issues are thought of
28:53 discussed
28:54 uh and and decided upon in a group and
28:57 and new perspectives that are well
29:00 represented that
29:01 that bring an experience and a
29:02 perspective to such a dialogue
29:05 enriches the conversation uh and
29:08 generally leads to better conclusions
29:10 and it's my assessment that michelle you
29:13 know with your
29:13 your particular uh traits and
29:17 work experience and and where you did
29:19 that work um
29:20 is j it will be of benefit to the
29:23 council in this city
29:25 thank you councilmember richardson
29:27 councilmember hunt would you like to
29:29 have some time for discussion yes so a
29:32 year ago i went through this process and
29:34 i just wanted to
29:35 first of all say thank you so much for
29:36 all sticking with it
29:38 and for participating and we're in a
29:40 good position today that we have
29:41 several good choices and so i i
29:44 appreciate that it is a difficult um or
29:47 sometimes a challenging process
29:49 and thank you all very much
29:52 so i am nominating lindsay this evening
29:54 because um
29:56 i think that first of all she has shown
29:58 a tenacity and a stick-to-itiveness
30:01 um this is her second time through the
30:03 process and she's
30:04 come forward with new ideas and new
30:06 perspectives and i think that
30:08 she she brings although she is very
30:12 familiar with the issues she also brings
30:13 a new perspective on those issues
30:16 and then i i also really value
30:19 the long-term commitment that i think
30:21 she's shown through planning policy
30:23 as well as um this being the second time
30:27 applying for council
30:28 um and then also i think on a number of
30:31 issues
30:32 uh lindsay brings a different
30:33 perspective and something for us
30:35 to consider and i think that this is
30:38 especially valuable for council because
30:40 these new ideas i think
30:43 are whether or not i agree with them
30:44 they give us
30:46 the ability to formulate why we don't
30:49 agree or why we agree so i think that
30:51 the generation of creative
30:54 options for the council to consider is
30:56 another reason why
30:57 i have valued lindsay's input from
31:00 planning policy and why i'm nominating
31:01 her
31:02 thank you and now open it up to any
31:04 other council members who would like to
31:06 add
31:07 comments to this discussion
31:10 council president so by my telly this is
31:13 this is my fifth time doing this
31:15 um and and i will say and i hope it
31:17 doesn't sound like a cliche
31:18 um this is the most difficult um
31:21 appointment that i have been involved in
31:23 any of the three first of all each of
31:25 the three of you has has shown to be
31:27 the strongest in differing areas of uh
31:31 aspects that would be valuable on the
31:32 council and so any of the three of you
31:35 would be a joy to work with and that's
31:37 why this is so hard
31:38 because at the end of the day we have to
31:40 pick one and not the other two so i will
31:41 say
31:42 the thing that i will then say the thing
31:44 i have said before which is run for
31:45 office if you don't get appointed uh the
31:48 deadline for filing is less than four
31:50 and a half months away
31:51 uh there will be three council seats up
31:53 for uh
31:55 three or four four four uh so
31:58 i you know whoever doesn't get it i hope
32:00 to see again
32:02 i will say that i am also supporting uh
32:06 the nomination of michelle in this case
32:08 i feel that her executive experience
32:11 um has shown through in her in her
32:14 responses
32:15 and it um she would bring a skill set
32:17 that i don't think
32:18 is um uh as represented on council at
32:22 present
32:23 um as it could be and so while the other
32:26 two candidates are great
32:28 that's where my that's where i'm going
32:29 to start off with this evening
32:31 thank you is there any other discussion
32:33 before we go to the vote and i will
32:35 explain the process of voting council
32:36 member goodman thank you
32:38 as will be said several times tonight
32:42 i mean we just can't go wrong the
32:44 community can't go wrong
32:46 because you all are just
32:51 equally qualified in so many different
32:53 ways
32:54 and so i'm just thrilled that all of you
32:58 are here
32:58 and that all of you applied and uh
33:01 so it it's it is really a tough decision
33:05 my my decision
33:09 really is based upon
33:13 much of what council member hunt said
33:15 and that is that
33:17 not that either one of you
33:21 catherine or michelle wouldn't do a
33:22 great job you just you just would
33:24 but lindsay has
33:28 worked in my opinion very hard
33:31 for to be on council and
33:35 i have every reason to believe that she
33:38 will make a fine council member
33:39 and have not been convinced that
33:43 she shouldn't be afforded that
33:44 opportunity based on the work that she's
33:46 done over the past few years to get here
33:48 that's that's the sole reason um but
33:51 you know like tola said whoever doesn't
33:53 um get it tonight i hope you stay
33:55 involved because you're all very very
33:57 valuable and thank you again for
33:58 applying
34:00 any other discussion
34:04 um this is really hard and and i can say
34:06 with great honesties i don't have any
34:08 idea
34:09 where i'm going um
34:12 and i'm gonna these are notes i made um
34:15 that we talked about just moments ago
34:17 and i think all three of you are are
34:20 marvelous and in completely different
34:21 ways um
34:23 you know catherine tonight or katie the
34:26 other time i talk to you
34:28 you are massively creative and you bring
34:31 a fresh perspective to problem solving
34:32 that i completely admire
34:34 and and lindsay your grasp of the issues
34:38 um is incredible and michelle your your
34:41 poise and
34:42 your competence and your background um
34:44 you know make you an
34:46 excellent candidate so i i am completely
34:49 um you know game day decision on on on
34:54 this one so
34:55 is that done and it's half time
34:58 council member petite so first of all i
35:02 just want to start out by thanking each
35:04 of you
35:04 for coming forward and all the work that
35:07 goes into the appointment process i've
35:09 sat
35:09 in your seat before um and it's a
35:12 it's a bit nerve-wracking and i i wanted
35:15 to echo what
35:17 what you've heard this evening is that
35:19 all three of you
35:21 uh would do an amazing job on council
35:23 and so this is an incredibly
35:25 tough decision you all have these great
35:28 strengths in different areas
35:30 and that makes the decision all the
35:32 harder
35:33 tonight i'm going to be supporting
35:37 lindsay for the position
35:40 i i think lindsay has really
35:44 shown um so much work with the pcc
35:48 i've seen her at many many council
35:51 meetings
35:51 i i just appreciate her tenacity
35:56 but also just a fresh perspective and a
35:58 really deep
35:59 understanding of the issues i had the
36:02 opportunity to have
36:04 conversations with each of you um and
36:07 just
36:08 just got so much out of it and i again
36:11 want to
36:11 thank you for your time and i hope
36:15 that as we go forward if if one of you
36:18 are not
36:19 not the person chosen that you really
36:21 will stay involved and
36:23 run for election or or find a way within
36:25 the city that
36:26 you can that you can give back because
36:29 you all have so much to offer
36:32 thank you is there any other discussion
36:36 before we go to the vote okay
36:39 before i go through the process i just
36:42 wanted to let you know
36:43 that five of the seven electeds up here
36:46 have all gone through the process
36:48 and only three were picked through this
36:50 process
36:51 two had to run for office to get the
36:53 seat so it seems unusual
36:55 that we have repeated this in the last
36:57 few years but
36:59 i appreciate your courage and your
37:00 bravery and your confidence
37:02 to put your hat in the ring thank you
37:03 very much for doing this
37:05 so the process each council member has
37:08 one vote to cast for the nominee of
37:10 their choice
37:11 the votes will be taken by a show of
37:12 hands and the first nominee to receive
37:15 four votes will be appointed
37:17 i will call the vote in order of the
37:20 nomination we can have
37:22 voice and show of hands voice and show
37:25 of hands
37:25 did i not read that right okay voice and
37:28 show of hands
37:30 so all those in favor of appointing
37:33 michelle kemper
37:34 signify by saying i and a show of hands
37:38 three all those in favor of
37:42 uh lindsay walsh signify by saying aye
37:46 aye council is tied
37:49 so now you have some considerations if
37:52 you
37:53 feel that you can break the tie
37:56 by additional discussion right now on
37:58 camera you can
37:59 if you would like to recess into
38:02 executive session
38:03 you can and if somebody would like to
38:05 make a case for postponement to a future
38:07 date
38:08 you can do that
38:12 so let's step through the options is
38:15 there general sense that additional
38:16 discussion tonight on camera will get
38:18 you
38:19 to a different vote i'm not seeing it
38:24 councilmember winterstein more
38:26 discussion on camera
38:35 i would con you know last time we did
38:37 this
38:38 we got to the same point actually there
38:40 wasn't somebody with four
38:41 and i my vote was in the minority and
38:44 and i decided i knew that there was
38:47 you know i could easily um uh
38:50 think that we're doing the right thing
38:51 for the city by switching my vote and we
38:53 we went right through it really really
38:55 quick
38:55 so i say that just to remind all of us
38:57 that are here that possibility possible
39:01 that's possible and the situation arises
39:03 in this particular case
39:04 um and um i agree with my other
39:07 colleagues
39:08 uh that uh
39:11 that lindsay would be an excellent
39:15 council person as well and yet this
39:18 evening
39:19 i'm remaining firm at this point with my
39:20 vote so
39:23 i don't have i'm not going to switch and
39:25 flip the vote look at it last time
39:27 that's remember right
39:29 i wonder if we might spend 15 minutes uh
39:31 an executive session to
39:33 will agree that's true i agree through
39:34 some of this okay
39:36 sorry boy you guys are making a tough
39:40 okay i think we will recess
39:44 into executive session for 15 minutes
40:00 thank you so we are back from our second
40:04 executive session and i'm just going to
40:07 give a little summary of where we are in
40:09 the process the council elected to go
40:11 into executive session
40:12 to consider qualifications after the
40:16 first vote this evening resulted
40:18 in no candidate receiving four votes
40:21 at this point in the process the council
40:24 could can somebody could consider a
40:27 motion
40:28 to um give me the right word tina to
40:32 revoke on the nominees we vote on the
40:34 nominees or
40:35 continue so those are the two options
40:38 you have left so i need to get a general
40:39 sense from the council if anybody'd like
40:41 to motion
40:41 otherwise i will re-call for the votes
40:44 on the
40:45 two nominees i mean i will call them
40:49 again
40:49 call the vote again on the two nominees
40:52 we have
40:54 that's my winston continue means what
40:56 again i thought
40:57 we had you would be pausing this process
41:00 to allow for additional discussion with
41:03 the candidates
41:04 and pushing the vote to another date
41:07 and we still have other options
41:08 available to us
41:12 you we can we can go taivo and we can
41:15 cycle through
41:16 again in the game so
41:20 if there is no motion then i will
41:24 call for the all those in favor of the
41:28 first
41:28 nominee and we'll repeat the process we
41:30 did before
41:32 all those in favor of appointing
41:34 michelle kemper
41:35 signify by saying i and a show of hands
41:39 that's three all those in favor
41:43 of uh lindsay walsh signify by saying i
41:46 in a show of hands hi okay
41:49 three we're tied so at this point uh you
41:53 have the same options you had before
41:56 you can continue discussion on camera
41:58 you can go to executive session
42:00 you can move to continue or the mayor
42:03 can choose to break the time
42:09 council president mark i would move to
42:10 continue to the next council meeting
42:13 to allow further discussion
42:16 with the two remaining candidates by the
42:18 city council members
42:20 do we need a second is there a second
42:24 second it's been moved and seconded
42:28 to continue the discussion
42:31 council discussion on the motion as as
42:33 the maker of the motion
42:36 i think we all have ample evidence that
42:38 we have strong candidates
42:40 here tonight and i think that
42:43 i have a hope that um
42:46 that each uh the candidate the two
42:48 candidates who
42:49 who have gotten to this point have shown
42:51 ample interest in communicating with us
42:53 and communicating their vision and we
42:55 have talked to and they've referenced
42:57 their conversations with us in their
42:59 answers and my hope is that
43:01 by spending some more time we could
43:05 uh get a little further clarity i have
43:08 said that all these candidates are good
43:09 so i'm not
43:10 i'm not hard over um
43:14 and i also would prefer not to put the
43:17 mayor in the position to be a tiebreaker
43:19 so that's why i would like to go this
43:22 direction
43:22 additional discussion councilmember
43:24 interesting
43:26 i am not going to support this motion
43:29 i would like to see this uh concluded
43:32 this evening
43:33 and uh feel that as an elected
43:36 representative of the people
43:38 i would ask the mayor to cast her vote
43:40 and i think that would be fair
43:42 so if this doesn't pass i'm going to
43:44 make i'm going to move in that direction
43:48 discussion um i don't support the motion
43:51 either i think we
43:52 we've already had a process that's
43:55 linkedly lengthier than any other
43:56 process that we've had
43:58 and i think to delay it anymore
44:02 is not necessary i mean
44:05 we all know we have great we have great
44:08 applicants
44:08 and but i don't see any need to delay it
44:11 any further
44:12 we can break a tie
44:16 one way or the other discussion
44:20 because customer head i am
44:24 persuaded i think by my fellow council
44:26 members um councilmember winterstein and
44:29 goodman i think this is a
44:32 challenging process and i recall sitting
44:35 in the chair and thinking that you know
44:37 a decision was going to be made and so i
44:39 would like to see
44:41 um i would like to see a decision made
44:43 this evening
44:44 any other discussion deputy council
44:46 president batiste
44:48 so i i very much appreciate the the
44:52 motion um on on the table and
44:55 uh can understand the reasoning behind
44:57 that but on
44:59 the flip side uh having
45:02 sat in the the seat and gone through the
45:05 appointment process and
45:07 this particular process has given us
45:09 some additional
45:12 time with the candidates in some
45:14 different ways so
45:16 my concern would be that we
45:19 take more time and and may still be
45:22 where we're at
45:23 um so i i think that
45:26 uh i would like to see us move forward
45:29 madam mayor i withdraw my motion
45:32 second degree no okay
45:35 keep it on the table it's a lot of
45:37 parliamentary procedure you're all
45:38 learning tonight
45:39 council member ray so um i appreciate
45:42 the difficult situation
45:44 that you're in and you know waiting
45:46 another two weeks to make a decision
45:51 it must be quite frustrating and
45:53 agonizing
45:54 but i don't believe it is if we don't
45:58 if we continue on the path we are in
46:00 then
46:01 to council member winter science point
46:03 it will fall to the mayor to break the
46:04 tie
46:05 and i believe it is this body not um
46:08 that is the city council's
46:09 responsibility to
46:11 fill this vacancy not the mayor's
46:13 responsibility to fill this vacancy and
46:15 i would like
46:15 us to i would like us the council to
46:18 give a little more
46:19 effort into getting ourselves in a place
46:23 where we can
46:24 do our response our job which is to fill
46:27 this vacancy and not ask
46:29 not hunt and ask the mayor to make our
46:31 decision for us
46:32 so that is why i really would like to
46:34 not withdraw the motion and i really
46:36 would like to continue this
46:38 despite the difficulties that i know are
46:41 associated with it is your additional
46:43 discussion
46:44 a question for the clerk um does the
46:47 motion need to contain a date
46:51 i believe communicated oh it did say
46:54 nice meeting okay i missed that
46:56 so can you read me the emotion back it
46:58 would be
46:59 to continue um consideration of the
47:03 nominees
47:05 at the council meeting of february 19th
47:12 so it's been moved in second to consider
47:14 consent to continue consideration
47:16 of the nominees at the february 19th
47:20 council
47:20 18th uh 18th story 18th
47:31 all those in favor to continue please
47:33 say aye hi
47:34 hey could you raise your hands opposed
47:38 the motion fails four to two you
47:41 do have the option to continue to
47:44 discuss qualifications you do
47:46 have the option to take another vote
47:48 what is your desire
47:53 so you didn't list um
47:56 the option of the mayor bringing the tie
48:00 so is there a procedural step that we
48:02 have yeah let's make that informal
48:04 and we'll hear that so does the
48:07 governing
48:08 does the council body um
48:11 have an option on the table that says we
48:14 the body
48:15 choose to have the mayor break the time
48:19 actually it's the ability of the mayor
48:21 to take break a tie
48:22 is in your power um
48:26 and in my view you would have to take
48:29 another vote right now the votes have
48:31 been counted
48:32 on both of the candidates on the last
48:35 vote you've had an intervening motion to
48:37 continue
48:38 which has failed you should if the mayor
48:41 is going to break a tie there should be
48:42 another vote on the candidates
48:44 assuming that that if that vote were to
48:47 result in a tie
48:48 then it would be fall to you mayor to
48:50 make your decision as to whether you
48:52 would break the tie
48:56 uh deputy council so i
48:59 i and i'm not sure if this is the right
49:01 time to bring this up but i'm thinking
49:02 about
49:03 what council member ray just spoke to
49:07 um and before we would go forward with
49:11 the mayor
49:12 breaking the tie i i may want us to
49:16 try uh a little more time this evening
49:19 with the council in executive session
49:22 yes
49:28 thoughts
49:32 councilmember weren't you saying well
49:33 since that was expressed uh i would want
49:36 i would
49:37 my first reaction is to want to answer
49:39 that and honor that
49:40 request it's not my first choice and
49:42 i'll all because
49:44 i think uh in in rebuttal to
49:48 what chris said earlier um
49:51 i don't feel at all that this council is
49:53 not doing what it's charged to do
49:56 um the fact is it's there's only six of
50:00 and and um that is okay
50:04 i also feel like i said earlier and this
50:07 would be an encouragement to do that
50:08 um as an elected representative the
50:10 people who has real
50:12 care and concern about the outcome and
50:14 the
50:15 and and what's good for the city i think
50:17 that our mayor has demonstrated you know
50:19 kind of thoughtful deliberation about
50:21 the options as well though she hasn't
50:22 shared that with us
50:24 i think that that would be a fair
50:26 outcome for the citizens
50:28 um if it went that route i'm not trying
50:32 to put anybody in a spot i think it's
50:33 trying to do what's best
50:36 thoughts i'm
50:40 councilmember goodman council president
50:41 mertz i'm i just want to say that i'm
50:44 certainly not opposed to the mayor
50:45 breaking the tie um
50:47 as paul said there's six
50:51 of us and i think in there would
50:55 it would be anticipated on almost
50:58 any agenda bill that comes before us
51:00 including the decision to
51:02 appoint someone to fill the vacancy
51:06 that there could be a 3-3 and that's why
51:08 we have that procedure in place and i'm
51:11 i'm comfortable with that
51:16 against prison mertz i support the
51:20 motion to go into executive session for
51:22 further discussion
51:23 um it isn't the end of the world if the
51:25 mayor has to be the tiebreaker but
51:28 i would love to take at least one more
51:30 stab at having a
51:32 qualifications conversation before we
51:33 put the mayor in that position
51:38 so it looks like the general consensus
51:41 is that we will go back into executive
51:43 session for 15 minutes
51:46 10 minutes head nods
51:49 and okay
51:56 thanks so we are
51:59 back from our executive session to
52:01 discuss candidate qualifications
52:04 and we are doing groundhog day here and
52:07 going back
52:08 to the part of our process
52:11 where we will be you will be voting
52:14 on the two nominees and i will list them
52:18 in the order that they were nominated
52:21 all those in favor of appointing
52:23 michelle kemper
52:24 signify by saying hi hi
52:28 it's three all those in favor of
52:31 appointing lindsay walsh say
52:34 i i three to three
52:38 so at this point in time you do that
52:41 vote again
52:44 yes because nobody's gotten four votes
52:46 yet
52:47 correct we have some options right
52:50 choosing not to break the tie at this
52:52 moment
52:53 he's asking if they can do a re-vote and
52:55 so i would
52:56 say that that is an option for them
53:00 so since no candidate has received four
53:02 votes we will
53:04 redo the voting i will call out the
53:06 names of the nominees in the order they
53:08 are nominated
53:09 all those in favor of appointing
53:10 michelle kemper say aye
53:14 that's two all those in favor of
53:16 appointing lindsay walsh
53:17 say aye hi hi that's four voids
53:21 um congratulations
53:24 to both of you i would like to
53:27 call lindsey walsh forward for the oath
53:28 of office
53:34 when it's up there draw us back here
53:54 i'm mary lou paulie having been duly
53:57 appointed
54:03 meet after me hi
54:07 lindsay having been duly appointed to
54:09 the office
54:10 having been duly appointed to the office
54:13 of city of issaquah council position
54:15 number four
54:16 of city of missouri council position
54:18 number four
54:19 do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that
54:22 i will faithfully and
54:23 impartially that i will faithfully and
54:25 impartially
54:26 discharge the duties of this office
54:28 discharge the duties of this office
54:31 as prescribed by law as prescribed by
54:33 law and to the best of my ability
54:35 and to the best of my ability and that i
54:37 will support and maintain
54:39 and that i will support and maintain the
54:41 constitution of the state of washington
54:43 the constitution of the state of
54:45 washington and of the united states of
54:47 america
54:48 and of the united states of america
54:59 [Music]
55:04 recess
55:09 uh we are back from our short five
55:12 minute break
55:13 and welcome council member walsh gets to
55:16 join the council this evening and is
55:17 seated with us
55:19 the next item on our agenda this evening
55:21 is audience comments
55:23 this is when audience members may
55:24 address the council the guidelines for
55:27 public participation
55:29 are not displayed on the screen but i
55:31 can read them if necessary
55:33 please limit your comments to three
55:35 minutes
55:37 those who signed up will be called
55:38 forward first if you did not sign up i
55:40 will ask for other speakers before
55:42 closing that portion of the meeting
55:44 and if you're here as part of a group
55:46 please identify
55:47 yourself as a spokesperson for the group
55:50 and if you are in the audience this
55:51 evening and want to indicate your
55:53 support for comments you're hearing
55:54 during audience comments please raise
55:56 your hand
55:57 tina has anyone signed up for this
55:58 evening or none
56:00 are there any members of the public who
56:02 would like to address the council during
56:03 audience comments
56:05 seeing none audience comments are closed
56:08 and we'll move to the committee in
56:09 regional reports
56:10 and we will skip council member walsh
56:13 and move to
56:15 council member hunt uh thank you madam
56:18 mayor on
56:19 january 23rd i attended a special
56:21 meeting for the king conservation
56:23 district advisory committee
56:24 the meeting was part of the ongoing
56:27 discussions that kcd
56:28 is having around a proposal to increase
56:31 their parcel
56:32 per parcel fee which is the main funding
56:35 mechanism
56:36 of the king conservation district and
56:38 this discussion was
56:41 particular to the jurisdiction grants
56:44 which is part taken in before
56:48 so it is relevant to us and they
56:51 the discussion was around how to achieve
56:53 their goals around these grants which is
56:56 to fund creative and innovative
56:57 conservation
56:58 and um whether to increase that rate
57:01 proportionally as they're increasing
57:02 their per personal fee or to keep that
57:04 static and to allocate funds elsewhere
57:06 um and then also the land
57:10 february 7th is 6 30 in chancellor
57:13 chambers
57:14 and we have four items they are ab-7681
57:19 polygon personal d preliminary plat
57:22 issaquah highlands quasi-judicial
57:26 closed record ab-7682
57:29 proposed amendments 2018 comprehensive
57:32 plan centralisation imc
57:34 central standards ab-7683 amendments to
57:38 imc
57:40 18.07.480 community facility standards
57:42 regarding public buildings and
57:44 ab7726 2019 docketive comprehensive plan
57:48 amendments
57:49 and this concludes my report thank you
57:51 councilmember ray
57:52 the services and safety committee will
57:54 be meeting on february 12th at 6
57:56 30 p.m in council chambers likely agenda
58:00 items include a b 7702 amending imc
58:04 9.05 criminal code to align better with
58:07 state statute
58:08 and ab 7723
58:11 amending imc 2.20.040
58:16 changing cemetery cemetery fee
58:19 increases and that concludes my report
58:22 this evening thank you councilmember ray
58:23 councilmember winterstein
58:24 thank you the next meeting of the
58:26 futuretown regional council's growth
58:28 management policy board
58:29 is this thursday two days from now on
58:32 the 7th of february
58:34 and the issues of
58:37 the bulk of the issues and the agenda
58:39 again pertain to
58:41 the development of vision 2050 and
58:44 we are there's no action involved we
58:47 will have a number of discussion and
58:49 breakout sessions
58:50 around the general topics of equity
58:53 housing and the implementation and
58:56 accountability
58:58 uh sections within vision all of these
59:00 have basis in the current vision 2040
59:03 and what happens is the
59:06 staff and there's been quite a bit
59:08 they've had quite a few
59:09 you know public touches over the last
59:10 year they bring together that
59:12 information
59:13 their and their own kind of technical
59:15 expertise they present
59:17 kind of how equity exists may be
59:19 represented in the current form of
59:21 vision
59:22 and then discuss alternatives on
59:25 their recommendations on how it may be
59:27 expanded or updated in the next vision
59:29 and then we just talk about them
59:31 as a policy board uh and it will be
59:34 in the future all of these will come
59:37 back
59:37 uh with kind of a formal recommendation
59:40 from the staff
59:40 so we're still kind of continuing with
59:43 discussion about these very aspects of
59:45 vision
59:46 that is thursday and then on the 21st of
59:50 february we
59:51 have planned i am going to be chairing
59:53 the council infrastructure committee
59:54 meeting
59:55 lindsay look forward to seeing you on
59:57 that along with
59:58 stacy's other members i believe that's
1:00:01 right
1:00:02 and uh there it's on the calendar that
1:00:04 we're going to have a meeting
1:00:05 on thursday the 21st of february
1:00:08 the agenda has not yet been set there's
1:00:10 nothing in this
1:00:11 packet that would move something there
1:00:13 though uh
1:00:14 uh director lin and i are um lynn are
1:00:17 gonna
1:00:18 have a conversation uh uh next week
1:00:22 and um if indeed there's gonna be a
1:00:24 meeting we have an agenda item then
1:00:25 we'll we'll go through the formal
1:00:27 channels but this at this point i do not
1:00:29 know what an agenda would be that
1:00:32 concludes my report
1:00:33 thank you councilmember goodman thank
1:00:35 you madam mayor eastside fire and rescue
1:00:38 board will meet on february 14 at 4 p.m
1:00:42 at headquarters on newport way and the
1:00:44 agenda has not yet been set
1:00:46 that's my report thank you deputy
1:00:48 council president bates
1:00:50 thank you madam mayor tomorrow on
1:00:53 february 6 the psrc
1:00:56 economic development district board will
1:00:58 meet and will be discussing
1:01:00 the global trade and supply chain
1:01:02 management economic sector analysis that
1:01:05 is expected to be released in
1:01:08 2019 in addition to
1:01:11 the washington state global health
1:01:13 landscape study
1:01:14 which was released december of 2018
1:01:18 that is something that speaks to
1:01:20 washington-based organizations working
1:01:23 global health and that concludes my
1:01:25 report
1:01:26 thank you council president martz thank
1:01:29 you madam mayor the sound cities
1:01:30 association public issues committee
1:01:32 is actually going to skip the february
1:01:34 meeting because people are off
1:01:36 at the national association of cities
1:01:40 so the next meeting will be held on
1:01:41 wednesday march 13th
1:01:43 at 7 am in renton city hall the agenda
1:01:46 of course has not been
1:01:47 developed yet king county growth
1:01:49 management policy council gmtc
1:01:51 will meet wednesday february 27th at 4
1:01:53 pm in psrc
1:01:55 chambers downtown on the agenda
1:01:58 full agenda has not been defined but it
1:01:59 will at least include
1:02:01 the new housing committee composition
1:02:04 and work plan for the affordable housing
1:02:06 task force recommendation as well as an
1:02:08 update on vision 2050
1:02:10 so to see what our friends over at gmpb
1:02:12 are doing uh
1:02:13 this concludes my report thank you
1:02:16 moving to the mayor's report the
1:02:18 short report for this evening um
1:02:20 executive session there will be another
1:02:22 executive session held this evening
1:02:24 to discuss pending potential litigation
1:02:27 for rcw
1:02:29 42.30.110 paren one for ni
1:02:32 this item is expected to last 30 minutes
1:02:34 action will not follow
1:02:36 in open session
1:02:39 proceeding to the consent calendar the
1:02:41 consent calendar was distributed to
1:02:43 council in advance
1:02:44 if authorized the items on the consent
1:02:46 calendar will be considered together and
1:02:48 approved by one motion
1:02:49 have the payables and payroll been
1:02:51 reviewed
1:02:53 does any council member desire to remove
1:02:55 any item from the consent calendar and
1:02:57 consider it under regular business
1:03:02 uh can i have a motion to approve the
1:03:03 calendar madam mayor i move we adopt the
1:03:05 consent calendar is listed in this
1:03:07 evening's published agenda
1:03:09 second it's been moved and seconded all
1:03:11 those in favor signify by saying aye
1:03:14 aye those opposed that passes
1:03:17 unanimously
1:03:18 the next item on the agenda is under
1:03:20 regular business
1:03:22 ab7715 front street
1:03:25 streetscape phase one project this is
1:03:27 coming out of the infrastructure
1:03:29 committee
1:03:30 and i'd like to invite public works
1:03:31 director sheldon lin
1:03:33 to make a presentation as you mentioned
1:03:45 ab-7715 was referred to
1:03:47 the infrastructure committee and is now
1:03:49 coming back from committee
1:03:51 i in committee they had a brief
1:03:56 presentation about what the project
1:03:57 entailed and
1:04:00 the request for providing a revenue
1:04:03 source was brought back
1:04:05 to the full council from the committee
1:04:08 and put on regular business this evening
1:04:11 so as a reminder
1:04:12 this agenda bill is requesting council's
1:04:14 consideration
1:04:15 to provide a revenue source to support
1:04:17 the adopted 2019
1:04:18 expenditure for the streetscape
1:04:20 improvements alongside street
1:04:23 in my presentation i'll give a short
1:04:25 project description
1:04:27 it's history followed by alternatives to
1:04:30 address the revenue
1:04:31 need the project itself
1:04:35 uh entails the area within the uh
1:04:40 box in purple i it entails the
1:04:43 installation of five street trees
1:04:45 irrigation movable planters with seating
1:04:48 some a couple of decorative screenings
1:04:51 some benches
1:04:52 trash recycling receptacles and bicycle
1:04:55 racks
1:04:56 this is the smaller scale or piece of a
1:04:59 larger project
1:05:00 called the front street streetscape
1:05:02 project in 2016
1:05:05 and part of 2017 economic development
1:05:08 department
1:05:09 publicly engaged the downtown businesses
1:05:11 and community
1:05:12 to plan what front street streetscape
1:05:14 would look like
1:05:17 the plan the project plan was adopted
1:05:20 via an agenda bill in april of 2017 by
1:05:23 the city council
1:05:24 and then again included as one of the
1:05:26 projects in the 2018-2022 cip
1:05:30 what is proposed contains the same
1:05:32 elements and is part of the larger
1:05:34 adopted project
1:05:38 [Music]
1:05:40 the funding history of this project once
1:05:43 it was adopted in the 2018-22 cip
1:05:47 the revenue source at that time was
1:05:49 identified to be debt service
1:05:51 it was a larger project however
1:05:54 in 2018
1:05:57 the council
1:06:01 put in the 2018 budget about a hundred
1:06:04 and fifty six thousand dollars
1:06:06 uh to do a phase one essentially what i
1:06:09 was describing earlier
1:06:11 in this presentation uh however
1:06:14 in 2018 the revenue source was still
1:06:17 supposed to be a larger
1:06:19 part of a larger debt issuance
1:06:20 associated with other projects
1:06:22 so that we weren't so the city wasn't
1:06:24 issuing a small debt
1:06:25 issuance for this project
1:06:28 no debt issuance occurred in 2018
1:06:32 of which this project would have been
1:06:33 incorporated within
1:06:35 in 2019 the council again adopted budget
1:06:40 with this 156 000
1:06:45 in it but it did not identify a revenue
1:06:47 source other than what was in the cip
1:06:51 which the cfb continues to say that it
1:06:53 is a pet issuance
1:06:54 the administration does not recommend
1:06:57 using service for this small amount
1:07:03 funding alternatives are
1:07:04 [Music]
1:07:07 using the fund balance of the general
1:07:08 fund or
1:07:10 the council could delay the project and
1:07:11 include in the funding discussion for
1:07:13 currently unfunded projects
1:07:15 which the finance ad hoc committee is
1:07:17 currently in discussion over
1:07:18 or it could use a combination of the
1:07:20 tree mitigation fund
1:07:22 and the fund balance in the general fund
1:07:26 all three of these are options that the
1:07:27 council has the administration's
1:07:29 recommendation
1:07:30 is to use the fund balance
1:07:35 if there's any questions thank you
1:07:37 sheldon
1:07:38 questions councilmember hunt followed by
1:07:41 council member walsh um
1:07:45 so my first question is about the um
1:07:49 the locations of the different
1:07:52 furniture and in particular
1:07:56 so i know that some of the businesses on
1:07:57 the street have changed since
1:07:59 the streetscape was adopted
1:08:02 and so i wondered if those locations are
1:08:04 set or if they're still
1:08:06 being determined being worked out with
1:08:08 the businesses that are
1:08:09 there i don't know the exact locations
1:08:12 of all the street furniture
1:08:13 the screens are shown in
1:08:19 circles the purpose of the screening
1:08:23 is to screen the diagonal parking that
1:08:26 is off the street
1:08:28 from the people that are actually on the
1:08:30 street walking around
1:08:31 so there's an actual performance need
1:08:33 for those
1:08:34 from an aesthetic perspective an end
1:08:36 user perspective so the screen locations
1:08:38 would be set
1:08:41 and then this is for part of the street
1:08:43 but is the idea to
1:08:45 use screens on other parts of the street
1:08:47 as the
1:08:48 as enters the next phase of the
1:08:51 streetscape
1:08:52 we just evaluated this area and have
1:08:54 been in company
1:08:55 and conversation with the businesses and
1:08:58 so forth as we were
1:08:59 selecting street furniture and things of
1:09:01 that sort
1:09:03 um and then i i did have a follow-up
1:09:04 question which we discussed a little bit
1:09:07 the council infrastructure committee
1:09:08 meeting um
1:09:10 but i i'm still a little bit unclear
1:09:13 and i got a there was a letter um from
1:09:16 the downtown issaquah association that
1:09:18 sort of added
1:09:19 to the discussion so i wondered if we
1:09:21 could get some more information about
1:09:23 what the businesses that are directly
1:09:25 adjacent to
1:09:27 in particular the screens and in
1:09:28 particular the one that is
1:09:31 indicated through the restaurant because
1:09:32 i know that there's a side business
1:09:34 there which will be
1:09:35 locked by the screen
1:09:38 so christopher economic development has
1:09:42 been a conversation with businesses
1:09:46 certainly hi my name is christopher
1:09:49 wright and i'm with the city's economic
1:09:50 development department
1:09:52 uh with regard to uh the the discussions
1:09:55 we've had with those adjacent businesses
1:09:57 um we've talked to owls folly who
1:10:01 is the new tenant of the crawl bar space
1:10:05 and we've also talked to the edward
1:10:07 jones
1:10:08 tenant and the building owner of that
1:10:10 building as well
1:10:12 the concerns that they both expressed
1:10:14 were similar in that they wanted to make
1:10:16 sure that the screens that are
1:10:18 installed can be seen through you know
1:10:21 a certain amount of visibility through
1:10:25 for different reasons alice foley is
1:10:27 concerned about their business being
1:10:28 blocked
1:10:29 whereas edward jones they're more
1:10:31 concerned about security
1:10:33 and that's why they want to be able to
1:10:34 see through it so that and they wanted
1:10:37 to make sure that the
1:10:38 the walkways are maintained adjacent to
1:10:40 the buildings
1:10:41 so i think if you look at the original
1:10:42 streetscape plan the screens were going
1:10:44 right up to the walls
1:10:46 but we want to make sure that we agree
1:10:48 that there should be the walkways
1:10:50 maintained
1:10:51 next to the wall so those were the
1:10:52 couple of concerns that they had
1:10:54 and we've told them that we're going to
1:10:56 continue as the
1:10:58 screen selection process goes through
1:11:01 uh through the arts commission we're
1:11:03 going to continue to
1:11:04 to ask for their input during the the
1:11:06 selection process for the
1:11:08 design of the walls okay so i i do hear
1:11:12 that they had
1:11:13 concerns um and so were those
1:11:17 um and and i didn't also get a sense
1:11:20 that those concerns were ultimately
1:11:21 resolved but it is ongoing discussion so
1:11:24 were they is the tone that they
1:11:28 are thinking that there's a way to
1:11:30 resolve those concerns or the concerns
1:11:32 are yeah and i can't totally speak for
1:11:36 them but i do know that
1:11:37 again edward jones especially you know
1:11:40 they're they're they're more
1:11:41 uh optimistic that that that
1:11:44 we're gonna be able to work through the
1:11:46 the design process and they said i'll
1:11:48 also follow two i'd say maybe they're
1:11:49 skeptical
1:11:50 uh but they're certainly willing to work
1:11:52 with us on that
1:11:54 as we narrow down the design
1:12:06 and councilmember hunt i can come back
1:12:08 to you and let councilmember walsh ask
1:12:10 question
1:12:11 because it looks like you have some more
1:12:15 i i do have one more um so that this
1:12:18 this is about the tree mitigation fund
1:12:20 option specifically
1:12:22 so the tree mitigation funds we we had a
1:12:27 comment and an email from connie marsh
1:12:30 and she was asking about whether the
1:12:32 city had
1:12:34 paid into the tree fund when they
1:12:37 removed
1:12:38 the trees as part of or if this would be
1:12:41 taken from the tree mitigation fund
1:12:42 after removing trees without paying into
1:12:45 fund and so i wanted to ask that
1:12:47 question i don't
1:12:49 recall whether or not the city paid into
1:12:51 the fund
1:12:52 as a result of taking the trees off the
1:12:54 front street
1:12:56 the municipal code 18.12.180
1:13:00 specifically titled the city tree fund
1:13:03 provides for the city to be able to use
1:13:05 the money for for multiple purposes
1:13:08 one is to defray the cost of enforcing
1:13:10 the tree regulations
1:13:12 acquire maintain and preserve wooded
1:13:14 areas
1:13:15 to plant and maintain trees on publicly
1:13:18 owned property
1:13:19 which city streets are and provide urban
1:13:22 forestry education
1:13:23 so the code provides for the ability to
1:13:25 use tree fund money
1:13:27 on this project for planting trees
1:13:30 okay it was i guess was part of the
1:13:32 original plan to replace the trees
1:13:34 part of the original plan was replaced
1:13:36 trees but there was no money available
1:13:38 except for the fund balance
1:13:40 and then my last question is um at the
1:13:43 council infrastructure meeting we had a
1:13:45 discussion that
1:13:46 downtown israel association was going to
1:13:48 be able to do the watering
1:13:50 and then i received a letter which gave
1:13:51 me the impression that that is a
1:13:53 possibility
1:13:54 but not not
1:13:57 definitive and so i wanted to revisit
1:14:00 that because i want to know if there is
1:14:02 a plan
1:14:02 for maintenance that if that does not
1:14:06 end up being possible for them or
1:14:09 something that they would want to do
1:14:10 yeah dia has been maintaining and
1:14:13 watering
1:14:14 the existing pots that are out there
1:14:16 between sunset and alder
1:14:18 and so this isn't a new thing a new
1:14:21 program for them
1:14:22 they've already been doing it what
1:14:23 christina bruning who's the president of
1:14:26 but neither she nor i could find though
1:14:28 was any kind of formal written agreement
1:14:30 between the city and dia that they do
1:14:32 that so we agree that now is a perfect
1:14:35 to formalize that and we don't see any
1:14:39 problems with that but
1:14:40 but we acknowledge we should formalize
1:14:43 agreement to maintain and monitor those
1:14:49 okay so is there so is there a plan in
1:14:52 case that
1:14:53 they with the city staff water them
1:14:56 in case they aren't able to well there's
1:14:59 basically three options one would be dia
1:15:01 the second would be that business owners
1:15:04 that have the planters in front of their
1:15:05 business
1:15:06 and then third would be the parks
1:15:08 department
1:15:10 and so like i said i'm not anticipating
1:15:12 that we would have to go to
1:15:13 the second or third options okay
1:15:17 um and just just so i can get into the
1:15:19 record what
1:15:20 um what i'm referring to this is in the
1:15:22 letter from christina bruning and it
1:15:25 it may be reasonable for dia to partner
1:15:26 in watering the planters however how
1:15:28 this is managed and the source of
1:15:29 funding are not finalized and mou
1:15:31 responsibilities will be necessary to
1:15:33 ensure
1:15:34 clear understanding and to manage
1:15:35 expectations and that's excellent
1:15:39 i would like to have that
1:15:43 i guess taken into consideration as we
1:15:45 consider how to maintain the streetscape
1:15:49 thank you councilmember walsh your first
1:15:52 question
1:15:53 thank you i have a few um first of all
1:15:56 i haven't seen connie's letter or dia
1:16:00 i'm not sure if anybody has any printed
1:16:02 copies
1:16:03 okay we're a little bit of a loss
1:16:05 tonight in our new home
1:16:07 yes indeed um secondarily i know
1:16:10 that since the 156 thousand three
1:16:15 hundred and seventy dollars i seem to
1:16:17 remember
1:16:17 seeing that number back when it was
1:16:20 first
1:16:21 considered by pbc and then in the cip
1:16:23 adoption in 2017.
1:16:25 has that number increased since it was
1:16:28 originally adopted to account for
1:16:32 an increase in construction costs or
1:16:34 whatever that would be in that
1:16:36 interim time the 156
1:16:40 370 uh wasn't shown as a pulled out cost
1:16:45 in the cip
1:16:46 because the cip was well over a million
1:16:48 dollars
1:16:49 at the time in 2000 i believe it was
1:16:53 2018 when the council wanted to fund
1:16:57 you know at least getting the trees and
1:16:59 some other streetscape in place uh
1:17:02 an estimate was given in 2018 for the
1:17:04 156 370.
1:17:07 uh based upon the engineer's estimate we
1:17:09 think that we can get this phase one
1:17:11 done for the 156 370.
1:17:14 what we've talked about tonight okay
1:17:18 um and then i did look up
1:17:21 the um
1:17:24 the city tree fund code piece and
1:17:28 i agree that it seems to imply
1:17:31 that or seems to state that you'd be
1:17:34 able to
1:17:34 add in trees on
1:17:38 city areas i was wondering whether there
1:17:41 any opinion on whether that suggested
1:17:44 that these should be
1:17:45 a net new growth of trees or whether
1:17:49 replacement seems to be an acceptable
1:17:54 in that situation
1:17:58 city administrator moon it's uh city
1:18:01 attorney's opinion and administration's
1:18:03 opinion
1:18:03 that the tree fund can be used for this
1:18:06 purpose
1:18:09 thank you uh other questions
1:18:14 councilmember winterstein related to
1:18:16 that question
1:18:20 remind me how the tree mitigation fund
1:18:24 gets funded the tree mitigation fund is
1:18:28 funded
1:18:30 is it an impact fee it's not an impact
1:18:34 i would have to go back and read
1:18:37 this section of the code and i don't
1:18:39 believe i have that yeah one second
1:18:41 children council uh city administrator
1:18:43 in essence or very briefly a developer
1:18:48 if they can't meet the requirements for
1:18:51 tree retention
1:18:53 has potential opportunity to pay
1:18:56 into the tree fund if they're not able
1:18:58 to then replant
1:19:00 the amount that would be required by our
1:19:02 tree retention ordinance
1:19:04 have an option and paying into the tree
1:19:05 fund so that so that on a
1:19:08 different site trees can be planted
1:19:12 and also when there's violations there's
1:19:15 violations that's right
1:19:19 and they would point out before we get
1:19:21 to a motion that there are two motions
1:19:23 available
1:19:24 so there is a question of can you use
1:19:26 this fund
1:19:28 to do this type of work and the answer
1:19:30 you're hearing from administration is
1:19:31 you can
1:19:32 then you have a choice do you want to
1:19:35 use this
1:19:36 font in this and you will see in the
1:19:38 packet that there are several motions
1:19:39 that you may consider
1:19:41 are there additional questions
1:19:42 councilmember winterstein thank you
1:19:46 sheldon do you recall the original prize
1:19:48 i want to go back to the actual the
1:19:50 original when we removed the trees i
1:19:51 know that we did some storm water
1:19:53 work in there and we also rebuilt the
1:19:55 sidewalks there were some
1:19:57 it wasn't just cosmetic there was there
1:19:59 was functionality i think especially of
1:20:01 storm water
1:20:03 and and um why were the trees removed
1:20:08 at the time they were removed because
1:20:11 they were one
1:20:12 not as healthy as what they should be
1:20:14 and two the sidewalk work was going out
1:20:16 past where the tree wells were
1:20:18 and with changes of grade and things
1:20:20 like that the trees had to be removed as
1:20:23 the primary aspect of that project was
1:20:26 driven by storm water
1:20:28 and ponding that was happening on front
1:20:31 street on the roadway itself
1:20:34 and to accommodate the drainage we had
1:20:36 to move the sidewalk out make it larger
1:20:40 but in consultation with the parks
1:20:42 department
1:20:43 the recommendation was to remove the
1:20:45 juice okay so our
1:20:48 original reason to remove the trees
1:20:52 in essence is could be similar why a
1:20:55 similar
1:20:56 reason for why any development or
1:20:58 redevelopment
1:21:02 trees and not maybe have the means to
1:21:04 then replace them and they would
1:21:05 add into the fun and i i think that's
1:21:07 the sense of you know what
1:21:09 where that questioning comes from is is
1:21:14 if we have a standard for developers
1:21:16 under those circumstances to not
1:21:18 retain be able to retain and i don't
1:21:20 know if we meet that criteria
1:21:22 um then then they they pay into that
1:21:25 fund and i understand that
1:21:27 it is an interesting question to me as
1:21:29 well of what you know
1:21:31 is that is there some reason if this
1:21:34 is could be assessed that same way
1:21:38 you know why why why wouldn't we
1:21:41 pay into that same fund if we can't
1:21:44 and and i and so i don't know if you're
1:21:47 prepared to ask that but
1:21:49 and anyway i already know what direction
1:21:52 i'm going to go tonight but
1:21:54 this is a question i'd like to
1:21:55 understand the answer too
1:21:59 [Laughter]
1:22:01 children can you speak up a little he
1:22:03 said i don't have an answer to that
1:22:04 question right here
1:22:05 okay so may not have it tonight
1:22:07 administrator moon did you want to add
1:22:08 anything
1:22:09 no other than we understand that's
1:22:12 that's more of a policy question and it
1:22:14 wasn't the one that was to be
1:22:15 deliberated tonight and we can
1:22:17 have other conversations about that
1:22:20 that's fine thank you
1:22:21 now deputy council president thank you
1:22:24 for the presentation sheldon could you
1:22:26 just tell me a little bit more about the
1:22:28 choice the trees that are going in you
1:22:30 mentioned that the trees before
1:22:32 were not completely healthy so could you
1:22:36 speak to a choice of trees that are
1:22:39 something i'm going to defer to
1:22:40 christopher on that the streetscape plan
1:22:43 as part of that review and adoption
1:22:46 process
1:22:47 they specified the trees that their
1:22:50 landscape architect that worked on the
1:22:52 suggested for the street trees and we're
1:22:55 going to we're going along with that
1:22:56 plant
1:22:57 so not the same kind of trees that we
1:23:00 had before
1:23:01 no no i think they're different and
1:23:03 there were there five trees that were
1:23:05 removed being replaced by five trees so
1:23:09 the number is the same within this area
1:23:11 that was removed
1:23:15 additional questions uh council member
1:23:18 walsh
1:23:20 uh do we know what the city tree fund
1:23:23 balance is right now it's estimated to
1:23:26 be around a hundred thousand dollars
1:23:28 okay and have there been any recent
1:23:31 usages
1:23:32 on that i'm trying to get a sense of how
1:23:34 much that
1:23:35 fund varies or is used it hasn't been
1:23:39 much at all
1:23:43 and i believe we're gonna be looking at
1:23:47 tree canopy or something
1:23:50 in the coming year where that
1:23:53 may be part of it i can let city
1:23:56 administrator moon provide more
1:23:57 information on that
1:23:59 sure this year's work program does
1:24:01 include
1:24:02 a few objectives around trees including
1:24:06 assessment of the tree canopy
1:24:08 and i think ultimately as we get the
1:24:11 results of those studies
1:24:15 we can have a conversation about then
1:24:17 how do we want to proceed with any
1:24:19 recommendations
1:24:20 there could be varied recommendations
1:24:22 but one of those might be
1:24:25 you should invest more in your tree
1:24:27 canopy for example and if that's the
1:24:29 case then this would be a logical source
1:24:33 additional questions
1:24:34 [Laughter]
1:24:38 this came out of infrastructure looking
1:24:40 for someone to make a motion
1:24:47 do i have any takers to make a motion
1:24:49 councilmember hunt
1:25:00 youtube directs the finance director to
1:25:03 include a
1:25:07 370 fund transfer from the general fund
1:25:11 fund balance to the street capital fund
1:25:13 for a total transfer
1:25:15 of 156
1:25:18 370 in assist thousand dollars
1:25:22 in a subsequent 2019 budget amendment to
1:25:24 provide revenue for phase
1:25:26 one of the front street streetscape
1:25:27 between sunset way
1:25:29 and northeast alder project and to
1:25:32 authorize the administration to enter
1:25:34 into a construction contract for the
1:25:36 front street streetscape project between
1:25:38 sunset and alter phase one project
1:25:41 not to exceed 156 3170
1:25:46 so a second second
1:25:49 it's been moved and seconded is there a
1:25:51 discussion
1:25:56 the version of the motion that uses the
1:25:59 general fund
1:26:00 primarily because i think we have a
1:26:03 number of challenges with
1:26:05 um with tree canopy and with trees of
1:26:08 various health varying health in the
1:26:10 city and other
1:26:11 locations and i do believe that
1:26:15 my my understanding of the intent of
1:26:18 having a tree mitigation fund is really
1:26:20 improve and to strengthen
1:26:23 our our trees on public
1:26:27 properties in the city and so i think
1:26:31 replacing trees that the city removed i
1:26:34 don't know that that
1:26:35 in my opinion meets meets the intent i
1:26:38 do understand that legally it is
1:26:39 possible but at the same time i think
1:26:42 that fund should be for for new trees or
1:26:45 improving the health of trees elsewhere
1:26:47 in the city and not because we remove
1:26:48 trees and now we're just going to be
1:26:50 putting them back and then taking from
1:26:51 the tree mitigation funds to do so
1:26:53 um so that's the that's the reason why i
1:26:56 made the motion that
1:26:57 draws from the general fund and then
1:27:02 i do i appreciate the new information
1:27:05 about the businesses
1:27:07 i have a remaining concern which is
1:27:10 about the
1:27:11 um screens and my concern is that the
1:27:14 street has changed over time since the
1:27:18 was adopted and one of the changes has
1:27:21 been the activation of one of the alleys
1:27:23 that is screened
1:27:24 by a new side business and so i think if
1:27:27 we want to have
1:27:28 a pedestrian friendly interesting
1:27:32 um street where you have businesses that
1:27:35 are dependent on walk walk up traffic
1:27:38 and those sorts of things we want to
1:27:40 potentially have visibility of those
1:27:42 businesses
1:27:42 and i don't know that screening in that
1:27:46 i can see screening parking in an alley
1:27:48 but in this case we are actually
1:27:49 screening a side business and i think
1:27:51 in this case one of
1:27:55 one of the businesses that has made
1:27:56 effort to be visible and to actually
1:27:58 activate that
1:27:59 side of the of the building
1:28:02 um so when i look at the objectives for
1:28:04 the doing the streetscape in terms of
1:28:06 improving the pedestrian experience etc
1:28:08 i don't know that that
1:28:09 that particular screen meets
1:28:13 those criteria and so
1:28:16 i would like to make an amendment
1:28:20 did you speak up to that um um if i
1:28:23 could get you to hold on from one second
1:28:25 council member
1:28:25 city administrator moon just a point
1:28:29 point of reference and i'm not sure this
1:28:30 is the exact exact moment
1:28:32 um i i would just
1:28:35 like to make sure that council also
1:28:37 understands there's a lot of public
1:28:38 input on this
1:28:40 project and i just ask you to consider
1:28:44 the amount of that public input that
1:28:46 went into
1:28:48 the concept plan and that
1:28:52 the public art features this the
1:28:54 screening
1:28:55 and those being one of the same and in
1:28:57 this case
1:28:58 were elements that
1:29:02 did get a lot of input and feedback and
1:29:05 resonated with community members and
1:29:09 we showed a bunch of different models
1:29:12 concepts and this was one of the
1:29:15 elements that
1:29:16 scored highly in in the feedback that we
1:29:18 received
1:29:20 i do believe and if we haven't expressed
1:29:23 it with great confidence
1:29:24 i do believe that we can work
1:29:27 with businesses and community members
1:29:29 and the arts commission to design
1:29:31 something that
1:29:32 meets meets all the objectives but still
1:29:35 attends to the fact that there are
1:29:37 businesses on
1:29:39 those alleyways and that they have a
1:29:41 desire for
1:29:43 visibility in particular some of those
1:29:46 businesses have
1:29:47 because they're not located on the
1:29:49 frontage they have signage that's
1:29:51 elevated it's at the eaves level
1:29:54 and i don't expect the screens to be
1:29:57 that high
1:29:58 we're just trying to cover
1:30:02 a you know passenger car type height
1:30:05 and so i want to make sure that that's
1:30:07 understood that that's kind of
1:30:09 the objective and that's kind of the
1:30:12 visual that you should have in your head
1:30:13 as you're considering what the screens
1:30:15 might be
1:30:16 thank you thank you did you
1:30:20 want to propose an amendment for this
1:30:21 evening okay
1:30:23 um i moved to amends av
1:30:26 7715 front street streetscape phase one
1:30:29 project
1:30:30 to remove the decorative screens
1:30:31 component and associated funding and to
1:30:33 include them as a discussion item with
1:30:36 additional information in a subsequent
1:30:37 phase of the streetscape project
1:30:41 did you do you have that
1:30:46 yeah i have to re-read it is there a
1:30:49 second first
1:30:50 to remove the decorative screens from
1:30:52 the landscape design
1:30:55 i have a question you can i think
1:30:58 to see have to second it in order to
1:31:01 have a discussion or can you ask a
1:31:02 question
1:31:04 if he wants to discuss the motion then
1:31:06 meant
1:31:07 then further than there would be how
1:31:10 about a point of order then
1:31:11 maybe murder um i think these are two
1:31:14 separate topics and not
1:31:16 should not be lumped together and would
1:31:18 be better
1:31:20 for the business the council to handle
1:31:21 them independently one is about funding
1:31:24 of the project and what is about the
1:31:25 content of the project
1:31:30 uh so i'm looking at city administrator
1:31:32 moon the content of the project
1:31:34 was approved when the landscape plan was
1:31:37 approved concept
1:31:38 landscape concept plan so that is not
1:31:40 the question before you tonight whether
1:31:41 or not you want to amend the plan that
1:31:43 may be a question that you have but it's
1:31:44 not the one in front of you tonight
1:31:46 the one in front of you tonight is to
1:31:47 approve the funding
1:31:52 in the motion it's about funding it's
1:31:55 removing the funding for that portion
1:31:58 i'll second it so that at least um
1:32:01 council member hunt can
1:32:02 express her it's been moved and seconded
1:32:05 councilmember hunt well my my big
1:32:08 concern is yes i do believe there was a
1:32:10 lot of community engagement i looked
1:32:12 back at the last
1:32:13 um times when this came forward the
1:32:15 picture that i saw was the edward jones
1:32:17 alley
1:32:18 decorative screen that was there um
1:32:22 and in that case it is ali that doesn't
1:32:24 have a side business
1:32:25 i think that because this plan has been
1:32:27 in the works for a while
1:32:28 the streetscape has changed and so the
1:32:30 community engagement is perhaps outdated
1:32:34 and so i would like to see a discussion
1:32:37 for making sure that this is still the
1:32:41 way that the street went in or to make a
1:32:44 pedestrian friendly experience when in
1:32:46 this case it seems like there's already
1:32:48 a pedestrian friendly experience
1:32:50 there that i do not see the benefit of
1:32:53 having screens and i also don't see the
1:32:55 benefit of putting money towards the
1:32:56 screen if it's going to be blocking an
1:32:58 activated
1:32:59 side business additional discussion
1:33:03 councilmember winstein question first
1:33:04 staff
1:33:06 explain for me what's there now in this
1:33:10 council member hunt's referring
1:33:11 specifically to one of the screens per
1:33:14 the plan
1:33:16 i do recall everything how the process
1:33:18 was explained earlier
1:33:20 i do recall i know that it had to do
1:33:23 creating kind of a visual screen
1:33:26 decorative that's why the arctic
1:33:27 submissions involved
1:33:29 to to block just a clear line of sight
1:33:32 to cars
1:33:34 at least from certain directions so i'm
1:33:36 curious about what's
1:33:37 what's there now and i also want to hear
1:33:39 about a little bit more about a
1:33:41 reference you made earlier about
1:33:43 a process as you currently intend to go
1:33:46 through
1:33:46 to to make a choice on whatever
1:33:50 whatever type of treatment is put there
1:33:54 so right now so here's edward jones
1:33:57 and then here is the crawl bar and
1:34:01 the side tenant space which is a new
1:34:03 tenant space just in the last year or so
1:34:06 is where alps folly is this is
1:34:08 completely open
1:34:09 from front street to the you know
1:34:12 there's no kind of walls or screens or
1:34:14 anything that blocks visibility of the
1:34:17 angled parking here
1:34:19 and the angled parking here and so the
1:34:22 intent
1:34:23 is to help screen the vehicles again
1:34:26 the plan did a couple of things it
1:34:28 talked about an eight foot height
1:34:30 for those screens we all agree that they
1:34:33 do not need to be that tall as
1:34:35 emily mentioned just tall enough to
1:34:36 screen a vehicle
1:34:38 and then they also showed that the
1:34:40 screen and that the picture that's in
1:34:43 the plan does show going like all the
1:34:46 way to the wall
1:34:47 here uh and we have since agreed that
1:34:50 uh maintaining the walkway along the
1:34:53 side of this building
1:34:54 similar to maintaining the walkway
1:34:56 that's used to access the new tenant
1:34:58 space here
1:35:00 so that the screens would be not as
1:35:03 long or as tall as basically what was
1:35:06 shown in the plan
1:35:09 what's there now is there parking there
1:35:11 now yes
1:35:12 there's yeah there's style yeah there's
1:35:14 angled parking
1:35:16 in both of those okay so and that's
1:35:18 that's what is will be screened
1:35:20 with the with the screens okay what i'm
1:35:23 seeking clarification on
1:35:24 is because i don't i honestly i'm not
1:35:27 familiar with the details that you're
1:35:28 referring to
1:35:29 and it'd be easy to assume that there is
1:35:31 no parking there more there's now
1:35:33 there's just a side business but i'm
1:35:34 hearing that it's
1:35:35 those these are still spaces that are
1:35:37 used for parking and
1:35:39 the intent of this would be to screen
1:35:41 that parking and maybe there's a
1:35:43 block of some business that there as
1:35:45 well okay so
1:35:46 there's that and then what's the process
1:35:49 you're going to go through
1:35:50 to make a selection well we've been
1:35:52 talking to
1:35:54 amy dukes and she's agreed that going
1:35:57 through that
1:35:58 arts commission review process and
1:36:00 selection
1:36:01 would be the would be appropriate
1:36:03 because we didn't want to just
1:36:04 buy us out of a catalog screen we want
1:36:07 to make it
1:36:08 art and we want to use local artists to
1:36:10 create them
1:36:12 and by doing that i think we will have a
1:36:14 little more say on
1:36:15 what that looks like exactly so with
1:36:18 that approach then
1:36:19 maybe local stakeholders and business
1:36:21 owners will be involved but it all
1:36:23 depends on how that
1:36:24 process unfolds we will involve them
1:36:30 additional questions or discussion
1:36:35 thoughts you want to share
1:36:42 i can't remember it i think we had a
1:36:43 process we went through to
1:36:45 you know to to set this up and to define
1:36:48 and it just feels very inappropriate for
1:36:50 me to me to be using the funding
1:36:53 discussion
1:36:54 to be talking about making design
1:36:55 element changes it just seems
1:36:57 like the the wrong place in the wrong
1:36:59 time in the wrong vehicle
1:37:02 okay council member goodman
1:37:06 i um we have a
1:37:09 we have a plan and i do agree with
1:37:12 uh council member hunt that there could
1:37:15 be some
1:37:16 that there are changes based on a new
1:37:18 tenant
1:37:19 um and that that needs to be kept in
1:37:23 um it uh
1:37:27 i we i i think we have to
1:37:30 allow the administration to implement
1:37:32 the plans that we have
1:37:34 adopted and if the
1:37:39 screen goes up and blocks a business
1:37:42 then we're going to hear about it and i
1:37:44 would be very unhappy again in the
1:37:46 conversation
1:37:47 but i would be willing to allow the
1:37:49 administration to
1:37:50 implement the plans and take into
1:37:53 consideration
1:37:55 what you've heard from us and what
1:37:56 you've heard from businesses
1:37:59 additional comments um councilmember
1:38:02 walsh followed by councilmember winstein
1:38:04 so i very much appreciate hearing about
1:38:08 business having been on ppc when we were
1:38:11 reviewing uh the screens those
1:38:14 they're beautiful and i love the
1:38:17 addition to it
1:38:18 but not at something that's going to
1:38:20 hurt a business
1:38:21 so i would very much encourage the city
1:38:24 to work with those businesses
1:38:26 consider a half height something that's
1:38:29 going to
1:38:30 add to the beauty and not hurt a
1:38:32 business
1:38:34 i do think that i will probably
1:38:37 put my trust in the city to do that and
1:38:41 take this out of the funding
1:38:43 conversation
1:38:44 councilmember winterstein thank you
1:38:46 [Laughter]
1:38:49 it's my preference that
1:38:52 the individuals involved with the
1:38:54 process going forward has already
1:38:55 envisioned
1:38:57 i would fully expect that they will use
1:39:00 good judgment and be
1:39:02 responsive to and sensitive to
1:39:05 these any issues that could arise
1:39:08 i've already there's already been some
1:39:10 engagement you've demonstrated some
1:39:11 knowledge
1:39:12 i know some of the people that are going
1:39:13 to be involved i know about the kind of
1:39:14 work they've done in the past and the
1:39:16 engagement that they've
1:39:17 exercised in the past so rather than use
1:39:20 a legislative process to perhaps tweak
1:39:22 part of this design i would like it to
1:39:24 go through the process that's currently
1:39:26 envisioned so i'm not going to support
1:39:28 the amendment
1:39:29 i've heard from five of you council
1:39:31 deputy council president batiste
1:39:33 so i i appreciate all the thought behind
1:39:36 i think with the public process that
1:39:38 we've had
1:39:41 especially around the screens and i just
1:39:45 feel comfortable with the administration
1:39:48 and the arts commission working with
1:39:51 the groups and the business owners and
1:39:53 making the right decisions so i won't be
1:39:55 supporting
1:39:56 this motion council president mertz did
1:39:58 you want to weigh in on the discussion
1:40:00 nope okay just checking um
1:40:03 i have a little difficulty reading the
1:40:06 motion is it okay if i
1:40:07 just sort of let vicky read that
1:40:10 there was an amendment to the amendment
1:40:12 sorry
1:40:13 that's in front of you you could ask for
1:40:16 um council member hack could you repeat
1:40:17 the amendment before i call for the vote
1:40:21 um so move to amend ab7715
1:40:26 front street streetscape phase one
1:40:29 project to remove the decorative screens
1:40:30 component and associated funding and to
1:40:32 include them as a discussion item with
1:40:34 additional information in a subsequent
1:40:36 phase of the streetscape project
1:40:38 thank you the amendment has been moved
1:40:40 and seconded and discussed all those in
1:40:42 favor of the amendment signified by
1:40:43 saying aye
1:40:45 post the amendment fails
1:40:49 one in favor six opposed we're back to
1:40:52 the main motion is there any further
1:40:54 discussion of the main motion
1:40:56 councilmember winterstein i'm glad to
1:40:58 see this coming forward it was the will
1:41:00 of the council
1:41:01 when we saw in our cip how it really was
1:41:04 a big block of work further out in the
1:41:06 future
1:41:07 and and not that long ago we said we've
1:41:09 got to do something let's at least work
1:41:10 on the trees
1:41:11 that was a a lot of us felt that loss in
1:41:14 many different ways not just visually
1:41:16 but it
1:41:16 kind of you're striking at the real core
1:41:19 part of this acquisition
1:41:20 so i'm glad that we that we have
1:41:23 entertained this
1:41:24 this this special project this carve out
1:41:26 and the council did ask for that this
1:41:28 it wasn't we broke it out we set aside
1:41:31 some money
1:41:32 um i'm glad to see this going
1:41:35 forward it it but it's just a small step
1:41:38 or at least it may go forward it's just
1:41:40 a small step
1:41:42 and i'm looking i i think it'll be
1:41:44 create
1:41:45 quite a lot of a response it'll
1:41:48 people will respond to this if we do
1:41:50 this and i'm
1:41:51 so i'm glad that we're taking this
1:41:54 earlier step than it was originally
1:41:55 envisioned
1:41:56 i'm going to support this and i'm
1:41:59 excited about
1:42:01 this first step thank you any other
1:42:03 discussion council member ray
1:42:05 and then councilmember hunt so i believe
1:42:08 and i think staff would concur
1:42:11 that using the tree mitigation fund is
1:42:13 an appropriate thing
1:42:15 funding vehicle for this particular
1:42:18 [Music]
1:42:20 undertaking the tree
1:42:23 mitigation fund is far more restricted
1:42:25 than the general fund so
1:42:27 i don't support the motion to
1:42:31 fund this completely out of general fund
1:42:34 when the tree mitigation fund is a
1:42:35 legitimate
1:42:38 complement to general fund dollars that
1:42:41 doesn't mean
1:42:42 we can't use general fund dollars down
1:42:44 the road to increase our tree canopy
1:42:47 but there are things that we can't do
1:42:48 with the treatment mitigation fund
1:42:51 and so by not taking advantage of this
1:42:53 we are giving away flexibility that we
1:42:55 could use down the road
1:42:56 so i cannot support the notion of using
1:42:59 simply general fund for this initiative
1:43:01 when tree fund is
1:43:05 is a legitimate complement to general
1:43:09 thank you councilmember ray
1:43:11 councilmember
1:43:12 hunt are you next yes um so thank you
1:43:16 again for all the information about the
1:43:17 outreach to the businesses i would
1:43:19 um just i do believe that there is a way
1:43:22 to do the
1:43:24 watering of the plants the maintenance
1:43:26 of the streetscape the decorative
1:43:27 screens
1:43:28 the furniture in a way that complements
1:43:30 the businesses so
1:43:31 i just would
1:43:34 like to see continued outreach and also
1:43:36 continued public engagement
1:43:38 because this is a street with really
1:43:39 high visibility as you know and
1:43:41 changes will be noticed and potentially
1:43:44 appreciated a great deal by the public
1:43:46 so i'm looking forward to that and i
1:43:47 think there are lots of different ways
1:43:48 to activate
1:43:49 and increase the pedestrian experience
1:43:52 along the street
1:43:53 and so i i do have confidence in the
1:43:56 city that
1:43:57 that these changes will be made in a way
1:44:00 improves the pedestrian experience and
1:44:02 meets the other goals of the streetscape
1:44:04 i still as far as the funding which is
1:44:08 what we're just
1:44:08 we're discussing i still think that um
1:44:13 i i think the tree fund is more
1:44:16 restricted
1:44:17 and in my opinion using the tree funds
1:44:22 improving rather than to just simply
1:44:25 replace
1:44:26 trees that were removed is it is a more
1:44:28 appropriate use of that tree funds it's
1:44:31 i think a fairly small portion of the
1:44:35 overall funding for the treats
1:44:37 for the streetscape which is possible to
1:44:40 be funded by that and so i
1:44:42 i would argue i think that
1:44:46 the tree fund could be used elsewhere to
1:44:48 improve
1:44:49 rather than to simply replace what has
1:44:51 been removed by
1:44:52 the city and keep us at par with our
1:44:55 trees
1:44:56 um so i i would still stand by using the
1:44:58 general fund
1:44:59 for the funding thank you councilmember
1:45:01 i'm councilmember goodman
1:45:03 i agree with councilmember hunt
1:45:04 regarding the use of the
1:45:06 uh tree fund um i think this needs to be
1:45:08 paid for
1:45:09 out of the general fund thank you um
1:45:12 councilman bridgestein before i come
1:45:14 back to you i want to see if
1:45:16 wall ship or tcr marks would like to
1:45:18 weigh in otherwise i will come back to
1:45:20 council member side council president
1:45:21 marx so
1:45:23 i'm a tad bit confused council member
1:45:27 if we so you suggested you're not in
1:45:31 favor of this motion
1:45:32 so does that mean
1:45:35 a amendment or what if we if we fail
1:45:41 i i'm more favorable of the alternative
1:45:44 motion which
1:45:45 splits the funding from the tree fund
1:45:47 and the
1:45:48 general instead of solely general fund
1:45:51 so why haven't you moved that because we
1:45:54 have an active motion on the table
1:45:57 so it wouldn't be doing i see you're
1:45:59 waiting got it
1:46:02 but okay because i also
1:46:06 um feel that we are at a financial point
1:46:11 where
1:46:11 every dollar in the general fund is
1:46:14 [Music]
1:46:16 is there's a lot of heavy lifts to come
1:46:19 out of the general fund and if we can
1:46:22 spread some of that heavy lifting out i
1:46:24 think that the rest of our every dollar
1:46:26 we can do will help us
1:46:27 uh in the rest of the year and the tough
1:46:29 choices in front of us
1:46:31 thank you deputy council president batis
1:46:34 and then
1:46:36 so i i agree with
1:46:39 council president martz i i do feel that
1:46:42 we need to
1:46:43 really focus on every
1:46:46 dollar that's coming from the general
1:46:48 fund but i completely understand
1:46:51 uh the the amendment and thinking about
1:46:54 what we
1:46:55 what we have in the future um i
1:46:57 understand that's thirty thousand
1:46:59 dollars it sounds like we have a hundred
1:47:01 thousand dollars in
1:47:03 uh in that account which um and i do
1:47:06 know we've got everything coming up at
1:47:08 the tree canopy
1:47:09 so i would i would be supportive of
1:47:14 a potential upcoming motion where we're
1:47:17 using the general fund and the tree
1:47:18 mitigation fund council councilmember
1:47:21 walsh did you get a chance to weigh it
1:47:24 do you want to weigh it you do not have
1:47:26 to i'm still considering okay
1:47:29 councilmember winterstein you want
1:47:30 that's a little bit of a different take
1:47:31 thank you
1:47:32 on the use of the tree fund i think
1:47:35 general fund is appropriate
1:47:37 i would we haven't
1:47:42 asked the question of ourselves at a
1:47:43 policy level to
1:47:45 should and and i'm it's i'm not
1:47:48 entirely clear that this project that
1:47:51 would that originally move the pro
1:47:52 the trees um is similar enough to
1:47:57 a type of project that some other
1:47:59 developer would do that
1:48:00 that and would then trigger them
1:48:04 having to give to the tree fund because
1:48:06 we're doing to retention
1:48:07 but i would rather us as a city
1:48:11 address that as a policy question like
1:48:14 should we
1:48:16 hold ourselves up to that same criteria
1:48:19 as our developers
1:48:20 and address that as a as a policy
1:48:22 question and and
1:48:24 not set a precedent for that before we
1:48:27 have this conversation
1:48:28 so let's use the general fund money and
1:48:31 going forward give ourselves more
1:48:33 clarity on
1:48:36 when our project should contribute or
1:48:39 and therefore because i do agree it's
1:48:43 the fund the tree fund idea of getting
1:48:46 um we had to treat coverage
1:48:49 canopy couldn't be retained let's make
1:48:52 sure that that
1:48:53 re-emerges somewhere else on public land
1:48:55 that's the intent of that
1:48:57 and that and that's that's a nice nice
1:48:59 intent
1:49:00 but we want to look at when we remove
1:49:04 the or reduce the canopy you know should
1:49:07 obligation be for us as well so i think
1:49:10 taking
1:49:11 it out of that fund today would set a
1:49:13 precedent i'd rather have the
1:49:14 conversation about that policy before we
1:49:16 do that
1:49:17 thank you councilmember goodman thank
1:49:20 um so code 18.12.180
1:49:25 talks about the city tree fund and it
1:49:26 said that the tree fund is created and
1:49:28 shall be administered by finance
1:49:30 all funds it has two purposes all funds
1:49:32 received from civil penalties resulting
1:49:34 from violations
1:49:35 shall be deposited in the fund it shall
1:49:37 be used only for the purpose of paying
1:49:39 all or part of the cost and expense of
1:49:41 enforcing
1:49:42 and implementing this chapter and
1:49:44 secondarily and may be used
1:49:46 for the purpose of acquiring maintaining
1:49:48 and preserving wooded areas
1:49:49 for planting and maintaining trees on
1:49:51 publicly owned property within the city
1:49:52 and for urban forestry education so
1:49:56 i would say that the intent of the tree
1:49:59 is for the primary purpose of that
1:50:04 the constant expense of enforcing and
1:50:05 implementing the chapter which is about
1:50:08 landscaping trees and not for the city
1:50:11 to use to just
1:50:13 simply replace trees and if we were
1:50:15 going to improve
1:50:16 the conditions then that's one thing but
1:50:20 i still agree with councilmember hunt
1:50:22 that i don't think that that is an
1:50:24 appropriate use of the city
1:50:26 tree fund for this project
1:50:29 any other final comments council member
1:50:32 ray so can i get a little clarification
1:50:34 from either the city attorney or
1:50:37 city staff on their interpretation of
1:50:40 of the tree fund because what i what i
1:50:42 heard
1:50:43 from councilmember goodman and what i
1:50:45 think i heard earlier don't comport and
1:50:47 i would like
1:50:48 and i think that is a really significant
1:50:49 question if what we're proposing
1:50:52 is inconsistent with the ordinance then
1:50:54 that's one thing and if it's not then
1:50:56 that's another thing
1:50:57 sure and and i can give that to
1:51:00 administrator moon to start
1:51:01 well i was just going to clarify i think
1:51:04 councilmember goodman's
1:51:05 point was there's there's a primary
1:51:08 primary purpose and then there's
1:51:09 there's an allowable range and we're and
1:51:12 the way that i answered that question
1:51:14 earlier is that it's an allowable use
1:51:23 any other discussion or questions before
1:51:26 i call for the vote
1:51:28 or final comments
1:51:32 okay the motion in front of you is to
1:51:35 direct the finance director to include a
1:51:38 370 dollar fund transfer from the
1:51:40 general fund balance to the street
1:51:42 capital fund
1:51:43 for a total transfer of
1:51:47 hundred 156 dollars in a subsequent 2019
1:51:51 budget amendment to provide revenue for
1:51:53 phase one
1:51:54 of the front street streetscape between
1:51:56 sunset way and northeast alder project
1:51:59 and authorize the administration to
1:52:01 enter into a construction contract for
1:52:03 the front street streetscape project
1:52:05 between sunset and alder phase one
1:52:07 project not to exceed 156
1:52:11 370 all those in favor signify by saying
1:52:16 and raise your hands thank you
1:52:19 um all those opposed nay
1:52:23 the vote is four the vote passes and is
1:52:25 four in favor with three opposed
1:52:30 i want to thank you for your thoughtful
1:52:32 deliberation one thing that's been
1:52:34 really important to me is that when you
1:52:35 have options we present all your options
1:52:37 sometimes that generates a lot of
1:52:39 conversation and dialogue but i think
1:52:41 that's really good
1:52:42 so thank you for that that was very
1:52:45 thoughtful
1:52:46 the next item on the agenda this evening
1:52:47 is good of the order
1:52:49 and we'll start first with the council
1:52:51 president martz who will be talking
1:52:53 about
1:52:54 um id0404 which is council appointments
1:52:57 for 2019.
1:52:59 certainly and before i start that i just
1:53:01 want to say how refreshing it is to be
1:53:03 able to have a 4-3 vote
1:53:04 after uh five or six weeks without
1:53:07 that's
1:53:07 a very good feeling so uh we did uh
1:53:11 finish 2019 council appointments
1:53:14 for the year for infrastructure
1:53:16 committee council member winterstein
1:53:18 will be chairing council members goodman
1:53:20 and walsh
1:53:21 will also be members sheldon lin will be
1:53:23 staff liaison
1:53:25 landon shore council member hunt is
1:53:27 going to be
1:53:28 chairing and
1:53:32 council members goodman and martz will
1:53:34 be on
1:53:36 as members and then director niven
1:53:39 is our staff liaison and then services
1:53:43 and safety
1:53:44 uh council member ray continues his
1:53:46 chair and then council members
1:53:48 council deputy president batis and
1:53:49 council member walsh
1:53:51 will also be on that committee and chief
1:53:54 bierbaum
1:53:55 is liaison if i didn't say that already
1:53:57 so i want to thank
1:53:59 directors lynn and niven and chief
1:54:02 bierbaum for
1:54:02 continuing their liaison roles it's
1:54:04 really important to the proper
1:54:05 functioning
1:54:07 of those committees and i'll also
1:54:10 mention
1:54:12 the ad hoc long term financial committee
1:54:14 which is organized a little bit
1:54:15 differently
1:54:17 council members ray and winterstein and
1:54:18 myself i will be on that along with
1:54:21 city administrator moon interim finance
1:54:23 director uh goldberg
1:54:25 and our tbd deputy city administrator
1:54:28 and then last but not least i just want
1:54:30 to mention other regional appointments
1:54:32 uh council member hunt is going to be
1:54:33 doing cascade water alliance and wyra8
1:54:36 council members goodman and ray are
1:54:38 going to continue their excellent work
1:54:39 on eastside fire and rescue
1:54:41 [Music]
1:54:43 council deputy president batis is going
1:54:45 to continue on eastside human services
1:54:47 forum
1:54:49 councilmember witterstein is going to
1:54:51 continue as
1:54:52 a chamber liaison
1:54:56 and uh council member goodman is going
1:54:58 to step forward stepping forward to do
1:54:59 lodging tax
1:55:00 advisory committee which we appreciate
1:55:03 and i'm going to stay as primary and
1:55:05 council member reyes
1:55:06 as alternate for the sound cities
1:55:07 association pick that i love so much
1:55:10 so with that thank you thank you for
1:55:13 your work on your pregnancy
1:55:14 and thank you everyone for your
1:55:16 willingness and enthusiasm both
1:55:18 to be part of these various
1:55:19 organizations and for your flexibility
1:55:21 as we came up with the appointments to
1:55:24 make sure that
1:55:24 i think every single person got if they
1:55:27 if they had something as a one or two
1:55:29 everybody who's in a position somebody
1:55:31 had that that person had a one or a two
1:55:33 for that position so we have the right
1:55:35 people in the right places so thank you
1:55:37 thank you council president uh do any
1:55:40 other council members have something for
1:55:41 good of the order before i move into
1:55:43 upcoming
1:55:44 council meetings council member ray i
1:55:46 just wanted to recognize
1:55:47 public works operations and the squad
1:55:50 police department
1:55:51 for their excellent work over the last
1:55:53 couple of days of inclement weather and
1:55:56 and it is very satisfying to hear the
1:55:58 the rumble of the snow plows coming down
1:56:00 your street
1:56:01 and you recognize that you might just be
1:56:03 able to get out and get to the grocery
1:56:04 store so
1:56:05 thank you to all all who have worked so
1:56:08 hard and all the long hours and
1:56:09 some it's appreciated by the by the
1:56:12 people in the community thank you they
1:56:14 are on 12-hour shifts now
1:56:16 24 hours a day and so it will be passed
1:56:19 your words of appreciation thank you
1:56:21 very much
1:56:23 um upcoming council meetings on february
1:56:24 11th there is a council work session
1:56:27 and the potential agenda items include
1:56:29 the citywide strategic plan
1:56:31 on february 9th there was a regular
1:56:32 council meeting and potential agenda
1:56:34 items include the updated water system
1:56:36 plan adoption
1:56:37 and a discussion on regional
1:56:39 transportation funding
1:56:42 our last item under rig under on our
1:56:44 agenda this evening is the executive
1:56:46 session
1:56:46 another yet another executive session
1:56:49 as earlier announced there will be an
1:56:51 executive session held this evening to
1:56:53 discuss pending potential litigation per
1:56:57 42.30.110 paren one per ni and i'm also
1:57:00 going to
1:57:01 add i was missing in my earlier comments
1:57:04 to discuss collective bargaining under
1:57:07 42.30.140 paren paran4
1:57:10 this item is expected to take 30 minutes
1:57:12 action may follow in open session
1:57:15 we will now recess at 1004.

Attendance

Council / Members (7)
Mariah Bettise
Stacy Goodman
Victoria Hunt
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed)
Paul Winterstein

Motions and votes (5)

Close nominations. . Following Council discussion, the vote was taken on the nominees: • Michelle Kemper received three votes. (Marts, Reh, Winterstein) • Lindsey Walsh received three votes. (Bettise, Goodman, Hunt) TIE VOTE, 3-3, VOTE FAILED.
Moved by REH · seconded by BETTISE
Carried 6-0
Continue [postpone] consideration of the nominees regarding Council Position No. 4 to the Feb. 19, 2019 Council meeting. . (Proponents: Marts, Reh)
Moved by MARTS · seconded by REH
Failed 2-4
In favor: Marts, Reh
1) Direct the Finance Director to include a $156,370 fund transfer from the General Fund fund balance to the Street Capital Fund, for a total transfer of of $156,370 in a subsequent 2019 budget amendment to provide revenue for Phase 1 of the Front Street Streetscape between Sunset Way and NE Alder P…
Moved by HUNT · seconded by WINTERSTEIN
Carried 4-3
In favor: Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein
Opposed: Bettise, Marts, Reh
Amend AB 7715 Front Street Streetscape Phase 1 Project to remove the decorative screens component and associated funding, and to include them as a discussion item with additional information in a subsequent phase of the streetscape project. (Proponent: Hunt). (Opponents: Bettise, Marts, Reh).
Moved by HUNT · seconded by GOODMAN
Failed 1-6
In favor: Hunt
Opposed: Bettise, Marts, Reh
APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. Page 93 of 535 CONSENT CALENDAR c) 02-05-19 City Council Regular Meeting Minutes Page (0000) a) ID 0324 - Accounts: Payables and Payroll of Feb. 4, 2019, $ 3,612,722.10; Approved. b) Minutes: City Council Special Meeting, Jan. 22, 2019; Approved. c) Minutes: …
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
Carried 7-0
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh (newly appointed), Paul Winterstein