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City Council Regular Meeting Auto captions

Monday, March 4, 2019

7:00 PM · 3h 29m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topics tracked across meetings:
Cemetery Fee Increase, Amending IMC 2.20.040 Postpone Indefinitely AB 7723 14/15
Amendment to Interlocal Agreement with Dept. of Natural Resources for Maintenance and Use of High Point Trailhead Re: Property Acquisition & Maintenance Fees AB 7739 1/2
Amending IMC 18.22, Wireless Communication Facilities and Related Fees AB 7714 2/2
Planning Policy Commission · Jan 17, 2019 City Council Regular Meeting · Mar 4, 2019
Topic
7. CONSENT CALENDAR
7a
Accounts: Payables and Payroll of Mar. 4, 2019, $ $4,217,946.32 ID 0326
Carried 7-0
Approve · packet pp.11–122
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
CITY OF ISSAQUAH Finance Department P.O. Box 1307 WASHINGTON Issaquah, WA 98027 PH: 425-837-3050 www. issaquahwa. gov
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7d
Lodging Tax Advisory Committee AB 7711
Carried 7-0
Confirm · packet pp.129
Topics: BudgetTourism
Staff report:
The Administration recommends confirming the appointments as presented.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7e
Amending IMC 18.22, Wireless Communication Facilities and Related Fees AB 7714
Carried 7-0
Refer to Council Infrastructure Committee · packet pp.131–165
Topics: Land UseBudget
Staff report:
In May 2018, the City Council adopted Ordinance No. 2833, amending the Issaquah Municipal Code and creating Chapter 18.22, Wireless Communication Facilities. The new code chapter was prepared in response to changes in technology and siting preferences for wireless communication antenna. The new code created permit requirements, permit timing, permit processing, and design guidelines for new facilities. The Administration worked with the wireless carriers to bring forward proposed code language with the least number of issues possible.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7f
2019 ARCH Work Program and Budget AB 7721
Carried 7-0
Refer to Council Services & Safety · packet pp.167–183
Topics: HousingPublic SafetyBudget
Staff report:
Highlights of the City's 2019 ARCH Work Program (Exhibit A) include:
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7g
Cemetery Fee Increase, Amending IMC 2.20.040 AB 7723
Carried 7-0
Refer to Council Services & Safety · packet pp.185–189
Topics: Land UsePublic SafetyBudget
Staff report:
The City's Upper and Lower Hillside cemeteries are maintained and improved by the Parks and Recreation Department, Park Operations Division, to ensure the safety and beauty of these facilities. The administration of the City cemeteries is vested in the Cemetery Board. The Board is responsible for the care, improvement and use of the cemetery property.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7h
Amendment to Interlocal Agreement with Dept. of Natural Resources for Maintenance and Use of High Point Trailhead Re: Property Acquisition & Maintenance Fees AB 7739
Carried 7-0
Refer to Council Services & Safety · packet pp.191–194
Topics: Public SafetyBudget
Staff report:
Since 1993, the City and DNR have shared responsibility for the maintenance of Hight Point Trailhead under a Use Permit granted by the City to DNR. The Use Permit expired in Feb. 2018 and was extended through June 2018. The City and DNR continued their relationship through a new interlocal agreement that established both the joint and separate responsibilities of the City and DNR for the sharing of maintenance, management and operation of the trailhead. The Interlocal Agreement was authorized at the July 18, 2018 Council meeting via AB 7600.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7i
Puget Sound Energy Recreational Use Agreement and Permit for Limited Use of Operating Property Permit AB 7740
Carried 7-0
Award Bid · packet pp.195–221
Topics: Land UseClimate
Staff report:
The Administration recommends authorizing the Mayor to enter into agreement with Puget Sound Energy for Recreational Use and a permit for Limited Use of Operating Property. This
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
9. GOOD OF THE ORDER
9a
Upcoming Council Meetings
0:16 good evening and welcome everyone I'm
0:18 calling the March 4th regular city
0:19 council meeting to order and I'd like to
0:22 ask those who would like to join the
0:23 council myself in the pledge of
0:25 allegiance to please
0:27 stand I pledge allegiance to the flag of
0:31 the United States of America and to the
0:34 Republic for which it stands one nation
0:37 under God indivisible with liy and
0:41 justice for
0:45 all so before I move on to the next item
0:49 which is special business I'd like to
0:50 make sure if you're here to speak
0:52 tonight you've had an opportunity to
0:53 sign up Tisha there is a sign up sheet
0:56 okay um so if you have not maybe we
0:59 could leave that down down on the table
1:01 please um sign up under special business
1:05 um ID
1:07 0374 the youth Advisory Board of isqua
1:10 is doing a presentation tonight and I'd
1:12 like to invite Gat and Brooke to make
1:15 that presentation
1:19 thanks
1:26 okay oh my
1:28 gosh view there we
1:32 go I'm totally like oh my gosh where is
1:35 it oh here we go
1:41 okay hello everyone I'm giata Oliva and
1:45 I'm 13 years old I go to isqua Middle
1:47 School we're so grateful to be here and
1:50 to share to all of you about the isqua
1:53 youth Advisory Board and what we do and
1:54 strive to do as well as the goals we
1:58 have set wait
2:00 oh my God I'm so sorry as I'm talking
2:03 there will be a running slideshow behind
2:05 us showing the fun we have and what we
2:06 do while working on the board this is
2:09 the isqua youth Advisory Board 23rd
2:12 school year in existence the board was
2:14 created back when the community center
2:16 opened in
2:18 1996 since then we we have had over 250
2:22 youth join and serve on the board the
2:25 youth Advisory Board exists to help give
2:27 youth a voice and spread their ideas
2:30 and opinions as it states in our mission
2:32 current Mission current mission
2:34 statement which reads the city of
2:36 issaqua believes that youth are not only
2:38 Future Leaders of Tomorrow but also
2:41 Civic contributors of today the isqua
2:45 youth Advisory Board exists to create
2:47 and encourage both youth leadership and
2:50 service opportunities in order to
2:52 develop leadership schools highlight
2:54 youth ideas and opinions and unite
2:58 students in the isqua school district
3:00 District the youth Advisory Board is
3:02 made up of 40 members all selected
3:05 through an application open to the
3:06 public in April if our applications get
3:09 accepted then we can go to an individual
3:11 and group interview where we plan an
3:14 event working as a team if these
3:17 interviews get accepted then we get
3:19 invited to the group the interviews and
3:22 application are reviewed and planned by
3:24 kids currently in the board yab is a
3:27 one-year commitment though most members
3:30 choose to do multiple years and they are
3:33 welcome to do so as long as they are
3:35 active and contributing to our team we
3:38 have members from all schools within the
3:40 isqua school district isqua Liberty
3:43 Skyline and Gibson baver Lake Pine Lake
3:47 isqua Maywood and Pacific Cascade we
3:49 don't just have public schools but also
3:51 people who are homeschooled and people
3:53 who can go to private schools like
3:55 Eastside prep or lake and Lakeside our
3:59 group of people meets on the first and
4:01 third Tuesday of every month for about
4:03 an hour and a
4:04 half talking and planning our events
4:07 working with the youth Advisory board
4:09 has been one of the most fun things I've
4:11 ever done and I love all the
4:12 volunteering that we get to
4:15 do hi my name is Brooke Fraser um I'm 15
4:19 years old and I go to isqua High School
4:22 uh I'm going to tell you about the
4:23 subcommittees of the youth Advisory
4:25 Board um so first Middle School action
4:27 focuses on planning events for younger
4:29 kids um they typically plan about three
4:31 events per year and recently they um
4:34 organized the fall FunFest for
4:36 preschoolers which was a blast I
4:37 volunteered at it um uh and then the
4:41 high schoolers are split amongst the
4:43 other subcommittees uh the first of
4:44 which being high school action and high
4:47 school action is very similar to Middle
4:48 School action in that they plan fund
4:50 like parties and events for this qua
4:52 Community um past projects have included
4:55 a Harry Potter night science Symposium
4:57 and basketball tournament um um they are
5:00 currently working on the YY kids
5:01 triathlon uh which will happen on the
5:04 2nd of June uh you're all invited it's
5:07 very
5:08 fun um so I am a member of the last
5:11 subcommittee which is teen advocacy um
5:14 at the moment we are producing a TV show
5:16 to talk about Hot Topics within isqua
5:19 especially concerning youth um and we
5:21 are organizing the state of mind
5:22 conference to discuss mental health uh
5:24 body image and relationships um among
5:27 teenagers in isqua uh so that is on
5:30 March 30th you are all welcome to that
5:33 as well um and uh also members of the
5:37 board also actively participate on um
5:40 predominantly adult boards and
5:42 commissions um so for example I am a
5:46 member of um I recently interviewed and
5:49 joined the Human Services Commission um
5:52 and we also have Representatives on the
5:53 economic Vitality commission um the ISA
5:57 Park board and the um transportation
6:00 Advisory board so finally our community
6:03 service coordinator organizes volunteer
6:05 projects like our monthly work at the
6:07 food bank so we work to make the
6:09 community better in all aspects
6:13 um finally thank you to council member
6:16 hunt for emailing us a couple questions
6:18 prior to this presentation uh we want to
6:20 make sure that your questions have been
6:21 answered so I will be asking the
6:23 questions and giato will answer them so
6:25 what are ways for youth to get involved
6:27 with this board or other boards
6:29 commissions Civic engagement
6:30 opportunities also does this board
6:32 interact with or work with any other
6:34 boards commissions groups in the town or
6:38 regionally Beyond becoming an actual
6:40 board member through the application
6:42 process youth May volunteer their time
6:45 and energy at events planned by us yeah
6:48 as bro mentioned youth Advisory Board
6:50 advocates for youth representation on
6:53 adult predominant Civic boards and
6:55 commissions we believe that the youth
6:57 member benefits from this experience but
7:00 also the adults benefit from a youth
7:03 voice we have worked with influence the
7:05 choice isqua schools
7:07 Foundation isqua food and clothing bank
7:09 samamish board and isqua Highlands youth
7:13 Council just to name a
7:15 few um and secondly what is the best way
7:18 to keep up with topics being discussed
7:20 and being worked on by the youth
7:21 Advisory
7:22 Board you all have an open in invitation
7:25 to attend our yab meetings on the first
7:27 and third Tuesdays of every every month
7:31 um at the community center additionally
7:34 Mary mayor Mary Lou has invited us to
7:38 present here as we are now on a more
7:39 frequent basis we hope to be back
7:43 soon thank you is there any
7:47 questions there any
7:51 questions uh G and Brooke I just want to
7:54 thank you for coming tonight and for and
7:56 letting me come to your um meeting last
7:59 week it is really impressive to see what
8:01 you guys are working on the huge body of
8:03 projects that you have and how you
8:04 organize yourself it really is a great
8:07 fertile ground for growing Future
8:09 Leaders so thank you for coming tonight
8:11 and also I just wanted to point out we
8:12 do have the staff leaz on Cathy with us
8:14 tonight so great work and thank you very
8:16 much for the report thank you for
8:19 inviting
8:21 us the next item on our agenda this
8:23 evening is ID
8:25 0415 Citywide strategic plan and it's a
8:28 feedback on the contact statement so
8:31 this item is coming before Council based
8:33 on direction that staff at the
8:34 administration received at the February
8:36 20th work session there has been some
8:39 really good work good and thoughtful
8:41 work by staff and our consultant BDS and
8:44 tonight we are looking for input and
8:46 comments from Council and then staff
8:48 will further refine the context
8:50 statements to incorporate that feedback
8:53 so I'd like to invite sustainability
8:54 director David Fujimoto to come to the
8:57 Lector and give the presentation great
8:59 thank you madam mayate the discussion
9:01 and council members um thank you for
9:04 that summary um provide a little more
9:06 context for the contextual statements uh
9:09 I just wanted to note that these are
9:10 anticipated to be included in the city's
9:13 draft strategic plan um and they're
9:15 really designed to help situate the
9:16 goals and objectives and performance
9:18 measures uh to help provide some context
9:21 for the readers and plain language uh so
9:24 they have a better understanding for
9:26 where some of that additional kind of
9:28 specific details are coming from um it's
9:31 not intended to be policy um and it is
9:34 intended to be um kind of factual in
9:36 nature and mostly informative uh so with
9:39 that um what I'd like to do is i' read
9:41 through the uh different um contextual
9:44 statements and then uh ask for your
9:48 feedback so as you know there are six
9:50 different priority goal areas and the
9:52 first one that I'll read through is
9:54 mobility the goal is to get is that
9:57 getting around town is easier for people
9:58 who live work and play here and the
10:01 statement is after many years of rapid
10:03 growth traffic has become a significant
10:05 issue affecting many aspects of life in
10:07 isqua residents are frustrated by
10:10 congested traffic on major streets and
10:12 the challenges of getting around town
10:14 facing continued projected growth in and
10:16 around isqua a focus on Mobility whether
10:19 on foot or by car bike bus or future
10:21 light rail is imperative isqua must
10:24 promptly plan and Implement
10:25 transportation system system
10:27 improvements to improve Circ population
10:29 and help residents and businesses carry
10:31 out their daily
10:33 lives the next priority goal area is
10:36 growth and development and the goal
10:38 there goal statement there is growth is
10:40 proactively managed planned and
10:42 communicated in a responsible way that
10:44 retains our strong sense of community
10:47 and
10:48 livability isqua is both in an enviable
10:51 and challenging position at the edge of
10:52 the urban growth boundary our rapid
10:55 growth is driven by the community's
10:57 desirability the economic prosperity of
10:59 the region and state policies in the
11:02 face of this growth isqua has chosen to
11:04 direct development of to the valley
11:06 floor to protect existing neighborhoods
11:08 in our forested hillsides as isqua
11:10 continues to grow into more in a into a
11:13 more urban place the community must
11:15 retain its character and provide more
11:17 opportunities for jobs entertainment
11:19 housing and services to ensure that
11:22 livability remains a Hallmark of the
11:26 community next is environmental
11:28 stewardship and the goal statement there
11:30 is that environmental resources are
11:32 proactively enhanced protected and
11:35 stewarded and the contextual statement
11:37 is isqua is defined by its passion for
11:40 access to and protection of the natural
11:43 environment residents hold in high
11:45 regard isqua's iconic natural setting
11:47 and strong environmental values
11:50 residents want to engage in protecting
11:51 and improving the environment as well as
11:54 acquiring new lands for the Public's
11:55 benefit success will come from active
11:58 stewardship by the community and its
11:59 Partners coupled with thoughtful
12:01 strategies projects and
12:04 policies next is social and economic
12:07 Vitality the goal statement there is an
12:10 economically V vital and diverse
12:12 Community is supported by robust
12:14 businesses affordable housing and
12:16 Supportive
12:17 Services isqua is well known as a great
12:20 place to live in a growing Center for
12:21 businesses residential growth has
12:23 outpaced job creation and Rising costs
12:26 make it hard for the people who work in
12:28 isqua to afford housing in the community
12:30 isqua wants to increase the availability
12:33 of jobs that provide the ability to live
12:35 here expand housing affordability and
12:38 provide access to the services residents
12:41 need so that more people are able to
12:42 live work and thrive in the
12:46 community the last two are
12:48 infrastructure and City leadership and
12:50 services for infrastructure the goal is
12:53 that an infrastructure system that is
12:55 planned designed built and
12:57 well-maintained supports current and
12:59 future Community
13:00 needs isqua's most critical Services
13:03 depend on infrastructure that is in good
13:05 working order for years the community
13:08 has relied on growth and development to
13:09 fund expand expansion and upgrades to
13:12 its streets water and sewer systems
13:15 buildings and Parks as the city's
13:17 infrastructure begins to age this
13:20 approach is not sustainable ongoing
13:22 maintenance expansion and replacement
13:24 are all needed to ensure isqua can keep
13:26 Pace with its recent growth and planned
13:28 future
13:29 isqua must Implement a long-term
13:31 infrastructure investment program to
13:33 remain a desirable and and vibrant City
13:37 and finally City leadership and services
13:40 the goal here is leadership and
13:43 accountability in the delivery of Public
13:44 Services for a growing and diversifying
13:47 Community as isqua grows and its
13:50 residents become more diverse the city
13:52 government itself must continue to
13:53 evolve the community will be best served
13:56 by ensuring that its desire for
13:58 engagement diversity and clear
14:00 communication are well integrated into
14:02 City practices in order to efficiently
14:05 and effectively serve its residents the
14:07 city needs to invest in its internal
14:09 systems and Personnel the city has an
14:11 opportunity to create a more welcoming
14:13 and connected community and a focus on
14:16 continuous Improvement of services for
14:19 all thank you David so because this was
14:22 a request that came out of work session
14:24 I think what we're looking for tonight
14:26 is some Dialogue on the Das and
14:29 about each of these individually and
14:31 then just kind
14:32 of thumbs up thumbs down let's move
14:35 forward with it
14:37 so uh if we go back up your list David
14:40 and we proed through them the way uh
14:43 contact statement and as David said I
14:44 just want to um remind everybody these
14:47 are the factual and informative
14:49 statements that set the context but they
14:51 don't necessarily contain any of the
14:52 policy that you've included in your
14:54 goals and your objectives so how would
14:57 you like to proceed
15:01 council president ba thank you Madame
15:03 mayor you know I I guess I would just
15:06 start with statements as I was looking
15:09 at the contextual statements and I know
15:10 we had a lot of discussion about this
15:12 and and how this was going to work and
15:15 strategic planning is never easy uh but
15:17 as I was going through and especially
15:19 for the three uh subcommittees that I
15:21 sat on um looking for the key words and
15:24 when we were talking about the elevator
15:26 pitches and how we would talk to
15:28 community members about this are those
15:31 um is that captured is that Essence
15:33 captured and and I felt like this was
15:36 written in a way that really helped um
15:38 as this goes out to uh the community I
15:42 think it does provide context and I
15:44 really was looking for those keywords
15:46 and found those within the three uh
15:49 subcommittee areas that that I I had the
15:51 opportunity to work on which were um
15:56 Mobility environmental stewardship and
15:58 so social and economic Vitality thank
16:01 you on Mobility are there any other
16:03 comments that folks would like to make
16:06 let's member Ray so this might be as
16:09 much a structural comment but um about
16:13 Midway through there's a um discussion
16:15 on Focus Mobility it says whether on
16:17 foot or by car comma bike bus or future
16:21 light rail I'm not quite sure
16:24 how there seems to be an extra or or or
16:27 um are we how are we parsing that that
16:31 statement it's just a little awkward to
16:34 me okay uh we can I think that was
16:37 designed for a certain readability but
16:39 we can certainly take a look at that
16:42 okay uh discussion on mobility and the
16:45 contextual statement for mobility and
16:47 it's fair to shake your head and say I'm
16:49 fine let's move
16:50 on okay I'm seeing move on uh the next
16:54 one David growth and development any
16:56 specific thoughts on this particular
16:58 cont contextual statement council member
17:01 hunt I think that in our conversations
17:05 we talked a lot about the growth
17:07 management act and I think that putting
17:10 that as part of the context here would
17:12 allow people that want more information
17:14 to just type that into their browser and
17:17 um I did that and the first thing that
17:18 comes up is a definition and I think
17:21 that gives a lot of the context around
17:25 the background for for some of our
17:27 challenges thank you it's helpful great
17:30 any other comments on this particular uh
17:33 council member Goodman thank you so the
17:36 uh the one part I tripped over was um
17:38 the second sentence says our rapid
17:40 growth is driven by the community's
17:42 desirability and when I read that um it
17:45 sounded to me like our community desires
17:48 rapid growth right and so um something
17:53 to the effect of and we don't have to
17:54 word Smith here um the community being a
17:57 desirable place to live or you know
18:00 tracting that totally makes sense that
18:02 makes sense I think that was the intent
18:04 thank you any other comments on that
18:06 contextual
18:08 statement being none let's go to the
18:11 next one environmental
18:17 stewardship any specific comments
18:20 related to this
18:26 statement I am not anything although I'm
18:29 am staring down council member Ray who
18:31 is staring at his screen nothing okay uh
18:34 social and economic
18:36 Vitality council member Ray this one is
18:39 what I was staring at May oh there you
18:41 go I was reading ahead um this is
18:44 missing something to me um I I I have no
18:47 problem with everything that's there but
18:50 I believe that one of the parts of
18:52 social or more importantly economic
18:54 Vitality in this community is having the
18:57 services that this commun Community
18:58 needs in in a abundance is proportionate
19:01 to the size of the growth we've had in
19:04 residential development so I would like
19:06 to see
19:07 something um in terms of the context of
19:11 this to talk about our robust businesses
19:14 in more than just ones that um provide a
19:16 wage that meet the needs of PE or
19:19 provide for people to live here but also
19:21 for robust businesses that provide the
19:23 services of the people who live here
19:27 great so not just about business Health
19:30 but about businesses that we need to
19:35 have or encourage to have in town in
19:36 order to be able to provide the full
19:38 Services right in in in my view a robust
19:41 community and a and a vital Community
19:44 provides a level of services to the
19:47 people who live here and who live around
19:49 us that is at a level proportionate to
19:53 the population so as the population has
19:55 grown fairly dramatically in the last
19:57 several years I do not believe that we
20:00 can say that the level of services that
20:02 are provided by businesses in this
20:04 community is kept up with
20:06 that I get yeah I want to get some
20:08 thoughts on that
20:11 Mariah uh so just a question for council
20:14 member Ray uh as we were talking about
20:17 social and economic vitality and and uh
20:20 you had brought up that that exact piece
20:23 in terms of services but we're also
20:25 covering Social Services here are you
20:28 are you adding some language that
20:32 expands uh Beyond sort of Social
20:35 Services yeah so my my desire um both in
20:39 terms of this goal and I would like in
20:41 the language around the objective is
20:43 that we capture the the notion that a
20:45 robust business Community is is part and
20:49 part is one part is to create jobs so
20:51 people can live and work here but the
20:53 other part of that is to provide
20:54 services for people who do live here and
20:57 in my opinion
20:58 and others I've talked to we're
21:00 currently at a level where we're not
21:02 providing the same level of um services
21:06 not social services but um Commercial
21:09 Services so you know restaurants car
21:12 washes um things like that that are
21:16 aligned to or
21:18 consist consistent with the level of
21:20 growth we've had in the last say five
21:23 years so oh council president Marts so
21:27 so I I I think I get Chris's point and I
21:29 and I really agreee with it and I have I
21:30 have four words Oldtown grocery
21:34 store um and and I think something that
21:37 reflects uh those sorts of concerns in
21:40 the language here I I you I also don't
21:42 want to try to Wordsmith tonight but I
21:44 think that's absolutely spoton okay I'm
21:48 just going to write those four words
21:49 down for now it's a great example and
21:53 then look to David and see do you have
21:56 have you heard enough because there's
21:57 more that may want want to comment on
21:58 this I know yes I think I've captured
22:00 that comment um understand businesses
22:03 and kind of the two functions making
22:04 sense okay counc along those ideas I
22:07 while I completely agree with that I
22:09 feel like that's captured in the last
22:11 sentence in the growth and development
22:13 section says as isqua continues to grow
22:16 into a more urban place the community
22:18 must retain its character and provide
22:19 more opportunities for jobs
22:21 entertainment housing and services so I
22:25 would prefer expanding that idea so that
22:28 it meets your goals rather than talking
22:32 about it in a social and economic
22:34 Vitality
22:36 area thoughts this is your working time
22:40 right now thoughts on that
22:43 suggestion remember Ray I'm just trying
22:45 to figure out where the last sentence in
22:47 the opportunity section of growth and
22:49 development right access Services res
22:51 needs so that more people can afford to
22:54 live work and thrive in the community
22:57 has it been changed
23:00 no under growth and development is
23:05 oh thank
23:07 you um yes that might well be a great
23:10 statement but it if but it when I when I
23:13 talk about economic Vitality I want to
23:17 see something that talks about I want
23:19 and and I I'm just want to quote
23:21 president Marts I'm just one of seven
23:23 but I would like to see growth and
23:25 vitality speak to our business community
23:27 and growing our business Community
23:29 specifically so don't disagree with that
23:31 but I just would like to see it called
23:33 out within this one thank you for
23:34 pointing that out General agreement from
23:36 everybody I know Deputy Council batis
23:38 wants to
23:39 waigh well I guess that's that was why I
23:43 had asked the question originally
23:44 because I know we spoke about that and I
23:47 wasn't I was trying to remember back
23:49 where where we wanted that to land where
23:51 we wanted to capture that and where that
23:53 would best fit I think for me uh as one
23:56 of seven if if if uh if we as long as we
24:00 capture both sides of services I would
24:02 be uh I would be fine as I'm hearing I'm
24:05 seeing General acceptance let's put
24:07 something in there along the lines of
24:08 what council member Ray suggested in
24:10 more than four words a few more words
24:13 than for words okay very good if there's
24:15 no other comments let's move on to the
24:17 next one
24:20 infrastructure thoughts
24:22 suggestions all good council member
24:25 Walsh council member hunt I don't don't
24:28 like the idea of saying the community is
24:30 relied on growth and development to fund
24:33 expansion I I think it speaks kind of
24:35 negatively I I almost would say growth
24:38 and development has enabled the
24:41 expansion and upgrades or you know I
24:43 just like a little bit more of a
24:44 positive spin on that
24:47 area um council president Merz I think
24:50 it is supposed to be a little negative
24:52 um intentionally I think that we have
24:54 had um and this is I'm hearkening back
24:57 to to my campaign spech speech from 2009
25:00 you know we have there's one model for
25:02 growing cities right and there's a
25:04 different model for sustainable cities
25:05 and as we turn that corner we have to
25:07 look at different funding mechanisms and
25:09 I I actually respectfully prefer this
25:12 language because it's a call to action
25:15 for us to look at things differently as
25:18 as we turn that
25:20 corner OT council member good oh sorry
25:23 council member hunt then council member
25:25 Goodman um I had a a similar reaction to
25:30 council member Walsh on this because I
25:32 think that while it is a statement about
25:35 having relied on growth and development
25:37 to fund these things I think the part
25:39 that I responded to was that the the
25:42 singling out of the community has relied
25:44 on these things um so I think if it were
25:47 the city has relied I think it's a it's
25:49 a um that to say that the community has
25:53 relied on these things was what I was
25:54 reacting to interes and so I would be
25:57 okay with this statement if it was for
25:59 years we we have relied on growth and
26:02 development to fund a great deal of our
26:04 upgrades um or the city has relied on
26:08 these things Council Goodman you want to
26:11 jump in yeah I'm not sure that relied on
26:13 is the right phrase I it's maybe
26:17 um looked to or assumed or um some other
26:23 too strong of language perhaps yeah
26:25 because I don't think that we've sat
26:27 back and the community or the city has
26:30 relied on I think we've kind of assumed
26:32 that certain things were going to happen
26:34 as a result of growth and development I
26:36 don't think that that's the case
26:38 okay David are you getting um sort of a
26:41 clear picture of what the intent is here
26:43 I believe so yes thank you um back to
26:45 council member hunt I have one other uh
26:47 question which is when we saw this last
26:49 time it was core infrastructure so will
26:51 it be infrastructure going forward that
26:53 decision was made to just call it
26:55 infrastructure and then also related I
26:57 had a question about what was in that
26:59 definition so are we henceforth defining
27:02 these streets water sewer system
27:04 buildings and Parks that's what we're
27:06 talking about with this section uh
27:08 that's correct on both fronts and so I
27:10 think what we heard was that the core
27:12 perhaps led us to a path which was
27:14 presuming something other than something
27:16 more Broad and so that and then the
27:18 other piece was that we heard that we
27:20 wanted to understand what specifically
27:21 that included so we articulated those
27:23 things pointk you any other comments on
27:26 this one
27:28 and we are moving on to City leadership
27:29 and
27:34 Services comments or discussion or you
27:37 can just put your thumb up and few
27:40 thumbs
27:43 upd anything
27:46 else council member
27:48 hunt uh I had a thought on this one
27:52 which is about the last sentence that
27:53 the city has an opportunity to create a
27:55 more welcoming and connected community
27:58 I think that there were earlier some
27:59 sentences similar to this about creating
28:03 the community and I think it's really
28:04 more not to words Smith but the the
28:07 intent I think is more about supporting
28:10 the community which is a welcoming
28:14 Community does that make sense David yes
28:17 okay other comments on this
28:20 one good awesome thank you for your work
28:23 this was extra homework that you guys
28:25 had from the work session sir Pres mer I
28:28 just want to say generally uh thank you
28:30 so much for putting this together you
28:31 know I had been um I think at the last
28:34 meeting a little publicly skeptical
28:36 about whether this would um introduce
28:38 all sorts of stren drong uh on Council
28:41 and you guys did a great job as
28:43 evidenced by the fact that uh that uh we
28:45 got through this had
28:47 a that's right great thank you very much
28:50 thank you um so the next steps will be
28:53 that there'll be a presentation of the
28:54 draft plan at the March 11th work
28:56 session and the community will be asked
28:58 to review and provide input on the draft
29:00 plan through a variety of Engagement
29:02 activities later this month is there any
29:05 other questions or we'll move on to the
29:06 next item great thanks this is now time
29:11 for audience comments um audience
29:13 members May address their Council and
29:15 mayor this evening and the guidelines
29:17 for participation will be displayed on
29:19 the screen um please limit your comments
29:21 to three minutes if you're here
29:23 representing a group please identify the
29:25 group you're representing and you can
29:27 speak for five minutes those who signed
29:30 up on the call on the signin sheet will
29:32 be called up first and if you did not
29:33 sign up I will ask for other speakers
29:35 before closing this portion of the
29:38 meeting um and I guess has anyone signed
29:41 up to speak this evening yes Auntie
29:47 Rosen so name and address would be great
29:51 um my name is Auntie Rosen and I live at
29:55 680 Northwest statewood Drive
29:58 isqua um wow okay I'm just here to say
30:03 thank you to the city counil no other
30:06 good reason but that's a good reason
30:09 okay you guys probably don't get thanked
30:11 enough so the first one is about the
30:14 skate
30:15 park I have two College age girls who do
30:19 not skate I don't plan on taking up the
30:22 sport anytime soon but you guys did a
30:25 wonderful job putting that in I live on
30:27 squawk mountains so I walk the dog down
30:30 there a lot and it is used all the time
30:34 you have little kids you have big kids
30:37 you have teenagers you put in benches
30:41 you have a porta potty you have
30:43 excellent parking and obviously you hit
30:46 a part of the community that really
30:49 needed a place to go I don't know those
30:52 people but they seem really happy and um
30:56 you're in investment in our community is
30:59 well used I could not understand where
31:02 it was where it was going because it was
31:04 so close to the street and there didn't
31:06 seem to be a big enough piece of land
31:09 but you did a great job and I know from
31:12 years ago it was contentious about
31:14 having enough money to put it in but I
31:17 just want you to know that your
31:18 investment in our community really made
31:20 a big difference to those people that
31:23 needed it um my last tour really quick I
31:26 love of Southeast 62nd is that what it
31:30 is Bravo I've been back on the trail the
31:34 road is beautiful the traffic is great I
31:36 love the roundabout I know it was a lot
31:38 of hard work you guys did a great job
31:41 and then the last thing is excellent job
31:43 with the snow you're plowing your people
31:46 going through the um town we got around
31:50 just fine and um you put Belleview to
31:53 shame so great job so thank you thank
31:57 you thank you Auntie uh next
32:00 Tisha Dave
32:04 hitchner um yeah I'm here to uh uh
32:08 pretty much agree with what the ad hoc
32:10 committee has come up with for the
32:12 financing get you to State your address
32:14 for the record of sure I'm Dave hitchner
32:16 at 990 Pickering place isqua which is a
32:19 road that in a driveway that intersects
32:21 Newport Way right there near near
32:24 Maple so I've been watching this I've
32:27 been I've lived there for over 21 years
32:30 and I'm sure that that area is probably
32:32 needed they probably had plans for
32:34 Newport Way dating back decades before
32:36 that because it really has changed I
32:38 would guess changed very little for the
32:40 past 40 years maybe even 60
32:43 years so that's something that has been
32:46 needed to be done for many years theyve
32:48 you've had it
32:50 in planning for a long time and I was a
32:54 little bit disappointed that you seem to
32:55 throw that into the same category atory
32:57 as the Westerly portion of Newport which
33:00 is really just a frontage road for uh90
33:05 I so that it doesn't really affect the
33:08 the Transportation downtown SE isqua
33:11 much at all
33:13 so if if all we can do right now is get
33:16 that financing for the acquisition and
33:19 and design then I guess that's what we
33:21 have to do but I would say you need to
33:24 come up with some creative financing
33:26 methods to uh get it done a lot faster
33:29 than decades away because that's what it
33:31 almost what the it indicated it might be
33:33 in increments over the next 20
33:36 years so it's important I think you need
33:40 to do it it's inadequate for bicycling
33:43 walking driving it looks like the lane
33:45 is basically 10 foot wide with like a
33:47 twot shoulder so uh I would say uh you
33:53 need a lot of you need to do a lot more
33:54 work than just to do this uh approving
33:57 this thing tonight thank you thank you
34:01 Dave no one further has signed up to
34:04 speak and I see Mr kapler standing
34:08 up I also forgot to mention this evening
34:11 if you are in the audience with us
34:13 tonight and you hear something you want
34:14 to demonstrate that you have support for
34:16 the speaker please feel free to raise
34:18 your hand while they're speaking it lets
34:19 the council know that you are in
34:21 agreement with what the speaker is
34:23 saying go ahead Dave uh thank you uh
34:25 David kapler to 55 Southeast Andrew
34:28 Street um real quick on several topics
34:32 um tonight the environment section you
34:34 were looking at was very much how it
34:37 looks and feels in isqua and didn't look
34:39 beyond our borders at all salmon in
34:42 climate were completely ignored and I
34:45 think those are important and it's we're
34:47 part of a bunch bigger picture than just
34:50 having isaquel look nice sidewalks were
34:54 a problem during the snow event and most
34:56 people don't realize that they have a
34:57 responsibility for that including the
35:00 city which never once shoveled the
35:03 sidewalk on East Sunset in front of this
35:05 building they did a little bit over
35:07 there and they did a police station but
35:10 we got a ways to go and I think we need
35:11 to be notifying residents that they have
35:13 a a responsibility to do their own
35:16 sidewalks and uh I think we could really
35:18 push on that I would suggest something
35:20 included in water bills since as a water
35:22 bill goes to often the owners of the
35:25 property rather than the renters
35:27 and it's their responsibility not
35:29 necessarily the
35:31 renters
35:32 um great work done by our Park
35:35 department on the East Sunset potential
35:38 expansion of the trail head and making
35:40 our our Trail up to a potential Trail up
35:44 new Trail up to tradition Plateau being
35:48 legal on our property or DNR property
35:52 and having much more a better grade um
35:55 we've ignored that for a long time
35:58 because we were always trespassing when
35:59 we were doing improvements and uh we can
36:02 now come hopefully with agreement uh
36:04 with a much improved
36:08 situation um Arch is part of your work
36:11 plan agenda that's going on um one of
36:14 the things in the news has been about
36:17 Arch and
36:18 affordability and and it's mentioned in
36:21 your work plan is making sure that
36:23 you're monitoring affordability um for
36:27 ownership and Rental and I think that's
36:29 something we need to improve on Big
36:32 Time small sale issue it's going back to
36:36 committee thank you there's two issues
36:38 with that well the main issue is how we
36:41 notify people and 300 ft is a huge
36:45 notification for something that happens
36:47 on a power pole but it is essential that
36:50 no matter what happens on that poll the
36:52 people immediately in that area in view
36:56 need to know know about it so please um
36:59 look at how we give notice on that and
37:01 think about how we can reduce the
37:03 impacts on views and the rest with those
37:06 um small sales sites thank you thank you
37:09 David is there anyone else that would
37:11 like to address their Council this
37:13 evening
37:15 Mary thanks
37:23 Mary I can start I can start my name
37:26 name is Mary Lynch and I recite at 2690
37:29 Northwest oest Drive esqua Washington I
37:32 just want to again um reiterate that I
37:36 do really appreciate what was done
37:37 during the snowstorm and the support
37:39 that the city had would also say ditto
37:41 to what David said about sidewalks um we
37:45 need more attention to those and also
37:47 need to work more closely with the
37:49 school district to get um the sidewalks
37:52 to the schools because we restarted
37:53 schools and the kids could not get uh
37:56 walk on the sidewalks to any of the five
37:59 schools within the city they were not
38:01 cleared and the school district didn't
38:03 do any jobs clearing the schools and so
38:06 it was very dangerous for them to walk
38:08 that being said I want to talk about um
38:09 the Transportation uh funding and just
38:13 was able to get that briefly and I
38:14 apologize if there's any mistakes in
38:16 this uh uh PowerPoint because I just got
38:20 the information today and was reviewing
38:21 it um one of my concerns is the funding
38:25 sources I didn't see anything thing in
38:27 this that talked about developers fees
38:29 or Transportation impa
38:31 impacts and a year or so ago I asked and
38:34 and found out that the development
38:36 services and public works when we're
38:38 looking at projects and uh funding of
38:41 that and and what development fees uh
38:43 are impacted that they're not fully
38:45 burdened and I really think that our
38:47 developers and their assessments and
38:49 fees need to um be 100% And also make
38:54 sure that the time and work that we
38:56 includ included is fully burdened work
38:58 and labor hours and what I was told it
39:01 wasn't um so those are points
39:05 there um also want to talk about the
39:09 Newport Way from s900 to the west of the
39:11 city limits um this project has been
39:15 identified for over 30 years and
39:17 identified with each new development
39:18 that happened along there that it was
39:21 needed in order to meet concurrency this
39:23 is 30 years ago um it's it's been in the
39:27 the the capital plan not funded all new
39:31 development along this road um the 2.5
39:34 as I said the concurrency was based upon
39:36 a three-lane road all the way to the
39:40 city limits we don't have a three-lane
39:42 road um we need to move forward with the
39:44 Newport Way Improvement project um and I
39:47 thank the city for funding the
39:49 conceptual work that was done uh and
39:51 working and all the neighbors that spent
39:53 time working with kpg my concern is uh
39:57 we finally in late October saw what the
40:00 cities approved to happen at Oak Crest
40:02 and Newport Way and it is not what the
40:04 study said um the Seline triangles that
40:08 the city has approved on what is to be
40:09 done currently um are not what kpg told
40:15 us actually when we had the study we
40:17 were all agreed that there shouldn't
40:19 even be a crosswalk at Newport way that
40:22 it needs to go down to the trail head
40:24 but um me go through so I've sent this
40:29 you these pictures um but this was the
40:33 layout of Newport Way with then also the
40:37 um up there at the park and the
40:39 crosswalk that was being moved to the
40:42 park thank you Mary if you want to
40:44 summarize that would be great well I
40:46 would just say that going forward I
40:48 would hope that the River project with
40:50 oest is based upon the work that with
40:52 the city uh kpg approved and the
40:55 citizens not what the city staff has
40:57 approved with Riv because it's not safe
40:59 um and if you'll read through my
41:01 presentation it talks about why it's not
41:03 safe thank you Mary is there anyone else
41:06 who would like to address Council this
41:08 evening Mary new
41:15 Mary my name is Mary Hammerly I live at
41:18 uh 1230 Oakwood Place Northwest which is
41:22 right off Newport Way I've lived in my
41:25 current home for almost 20 years and to
41:29 say that those of us that live on the
41:32 west portion of Newport Way just use as
41:34 a thorough fair to get to is other
41:36 places is far from the truth I have an
41:39 office that's right off of exit
41:43 17 I live right off of exit 15 I am on
41:48 using the roads uh Newport Way
41:52 specifically to get myself to downtown
41:54 isqua every every day of the week
41:57 sometimes multiple times and I am not
42:00 alone the difficulty I see in the plan
42:04 in terms of planning when the Newport
42:06 Way improvements are going to be made is
42:09 there is a suggestion that the city will
42:11 have up to 40 years to make those
42:14 improvements the west side of Newport
42:17 Way is dealing with huge numbers of new
42:21 development a lot of new people moving
42:24 in potentially with new development
42:27 we have a crazy traffic circle that
42:29 eventually got finished and beyond that
42:33 nothing has been done to deal with the
42:36 large numbers of traffic that are
42:38 beginning to appear as these new
42:42 developments begin to be occupied it
42:45 can't be put down on the low priority on
42:48 the plans for transportation that it is
42:51 thank you thank you Mary anyone else who
42:54 would like to address Council hi St
43:06 Steve hi good evening mayor council uh
43:09 been a while since I talked to you all
43:10 so good to see you all Lindy thanks
43:12 welcome to the city council thanks for
43:14 serving um so a couple shout outs and
43:17 I'll just be brief first of all again
43:18 thanks to the city public works
43:20 department both for the Windstorm that
43:21 we had last year cleanup and for the
43:24 snow removal cleanup that we had was a
43:26 big ask so thanks to all for those
43:29 things uh definitely worth is worth
43:32 considering
43:34 uh in the past there have been proposal
43:36 to reduce City or present City
43:39 presentations of presentations to 3
43:42 minutes this is as I talked this is a
43:44 good example why we should not limit
43:46 three minutes I know a lot of times I
43:48 spent many late nights with you here
43:50 before Council it's not just 3 minutes 5
43:52 minutes it's all the time you have to
43:54 get here I don't have as much time to
43:55 commit to come to as many meetings so I
43:56 need to be able to spit two more minutes
43:58 worth of stuff in so please don't reduce
44:01 those times I think what you're saying
44:02 to a lot of people is their time is
44:04 invaluable it's not worth consideration
44:06 you're putting out a message that says
44:09 just that your input isn't of value
44:15 uh uh AB 7714 there were a couple policy
44:20 statements that should this and should
44:22 that uh the questions are yes that
44:24 deserves more consideration
44:26 for both the uh public
44:29 impact um AB 7721 Arch work programs I
44:34 support
44:35 that uh Cemetery fees AB
44:39 7723 if it needs increas in needs
44:42 increas in IIs also I think it's a
44:44 chance to shout out for the local
44:45 business of flintoff doing a good job in
44:47 the service that that they provide so
44:48 wanted to shout out for them uh AB 7739
44:54 uh trail head 20
44:56 or M post 20 I think that is worth
45:01 consideration
45:02 um and I guess lastly the transportation
45:05 Capital Project funding several thoughts
45:07 stood out for me on this one was uh I'd
45:10 like to see the uh biking piece of the
45:13 lake smish part included in moving
45:16 forward as consideration uh for Newport
45:19 part of what I read and I may
45:21 misunderstood this there was the idea
45:23 that uh the city has funed a lot of
45:26 funds for development work that may or
45:29 may not get approved or reimbursed by
45:31 the state if uh that isn't improved or
45:34 right away
45:35 isn't approved and I guess I don't
45:37 understand how we're approving City
45:39 funds in advance where we don't
45:40 understand what the cost is and risk
45:42 losing cost or Fair structure if people
45:44 want to pay for things to make them
45:46 happen they should be doing just that I
45:48 don't think we should be foring the
45:49 money and having the risk of understand
45:51 what the full costs are um that said
45:55 that's seems like the most likely Road
45:58 Transportation project it just seems
45:59 like we're not as sharing the cost
46:01 before we're having all this pay
46:02 structure that goes with
46:04 it thank you all keep up the good work
46:07 thank you Steve is there anyone else who
46:09 would like to address Council this
46:11 evening on up
46:22 Kathy Kathy mccy 155 East Gilman
46:26 Boulevard um I'm the CEO for the Chamber
46:29 of Commerce since you mentioned raising
46:32 hands after um Auntie's comments whoooo
46:36 just um echoing her um comments her
46:40 enthusiasm and her praise great job and
46:43 I just need to make a quick announcement
46:45 for everyone um the chamber has been
46:48 working on a new project and we' just
46:50 like to take a moment to fill you in um
46:54 it is a regional business Summit that
46:56 will be held on April 25th and the
46:59 Chamber in uh association with the city
47:02 of issaqua Economic Development
47:04 Department and in cooperation with Snow
47:07 Valley samamish Newcastle and Mercer
47:10 Island
47:11 Chambers will be hosting a one-day event
47:14 to bring together experts to inform and
47:16 engage business owners managers and CEOs
47:20 on a range of issues concerning and
47:22 impacting our region our goal is that
47:25 they take away
47:26 information tools and solutions to
47:28 support business growth some of the
47:31 topics will include hiring retention
47:34 taxes affordable housing traffic cyber
47:38 security and social
47:41 media and I would like to um just let a
47:44 little bit more out of the bag here we
47:46 have just confirmed our keynote speaker
47:49 is Courtney greguar and just a little
47:52 about about Courtney she is the
47:54 commissioner um for the the Port
47:57 Commission um she was elected to that in
47:59 2013 and reelected in 15 her priorities
48:03 include growing our region economy
48:05 expanding international trade and
48:07 tourism and protecting our shared
48:10 natural
48:12 environment she has a long-standing
48:14 commitment of helping communities
48:16 generate broadly shared
48:19 prosperity in addition to her duties as
48:22 chair at the Port Commission Courtney as
48:25 works as assistant general counsel for
48:27 Microsoft's digital crimes unit Courtney
48:30 has also worked in Washington DC in
48:33 senior level management positions for
48:34 both the legislative and executive
48:37 branches of government from 2009 to 2012
48:40 Courtney served as Director of National
48:43 export Initiative for President Obama
48:46 and Deputy Chief of Staff for the US
48:48 Department of Commerce and so we're
48:50 pleased to have her as the keynote
48:51 speaker for the regional business Summit
48:54 April 25th 9:30 to 3 at the club snowwy
48:59 Ridge and registration is now available
49:02 and I have flyers I will leave thank you
49:04 thank you very much Kathy is there
49:05 anyone else who would like to address
49:07 the council this
49:08 evening on
49:14 up hello uh thank you Kevin wolf 4453
49:19 1990th out of Southeast just wanted to
49:22 express my uh desire to push through the
49:24 procurement of land for the bike lane
49:26 off of West Lake samamish there I
49:28 believe was an accident with the cyclist
49:30 today which underscores the importance
49:32 of it um there's a great Trail all the
49:36 way from Northbend to Seattle except for
49:39 right there so anything we could do to
49:41 move that forward I'm all in favor for
49:42 thank you thank you Kevin is there
49:45 anyone else who would like to address
49:46 the council this
49:48 evening seeing none I just wanted to say
49:51 thank you to all of those who took the
49:53 time tonight to come and address the
49:54 council we heard about transportation
49:56 funding discussion that the council will
49:58 be having later this evening uh positive
50:01 responses and some suggestions for the
50:05 snowstorm activities uh we heard about
50:07 some current and future road projects a
50:10 variety of parks housing and utility
50:12 comments and also a comment about um
50:15 audience comments and I wanted to
50:17 address that one briefly so tonight I
50:20 specified that there was three minutes
50:22 for individuals to comment or provide
50:24 audience comments or minutes for a group
50:27 if that was misunderstood to mean that
50:29 the council is Desiring to have less
50:32 engagement I'll take full responsibility
50:34 for that because that is not the case
50:37 the council agrees the council receives
50:39 their input in many ways besides the
50:41 audience comments that come tonight this
50:43 is the version that shows up on tape but
50:46 they receive a significant number of
50:48 emails phone calls uh there are survey
50:51 results there's social media and they're
50:53 now getting a weekly report on community
50:56 events and Outreach opportunities and
50:58 other ways to look at Community feedback
51:00 they are very very interested and
51:02 engaged in getting feedback and so the
51:05 there is no intention to turn a corner
51:08 and say we're now deciding not to listen
51:10 to our community that is not the intent
51:12 and that is not what's going on so I
51:13 apologize if that is how the information
51:15 is being
51:19 received um actually I have to ask for
51:21 audience comments two more times or I'm
51:22 not doing it official is there anyone
51:24 else who would like to do Audi a
51:25 comments and last call for audience
51:28 comments thank you audience comments are
51:30 closed and we will move to committee and
51:32 Regional reports and we'll St start with
51:34 council member Walsh no report at this
51:36 time thank you council member hunt thank
51:39 you Madame mayor the king Conservation
51:41 District advisory committee met on
51:43 February 20th this was part of an
51:45 ongoing discussion about the um
51:48 messaging around a proposal they have to
51:51 increase their per parcel rate which is
51:53 how they funds the work that they
51:55 Conservation District does and the
51:57 advisory committee is helping um advise
52:00 them on how that messaging will work and
52:02 they are also going to be presenting at
52:04 a prei meeting on March 13th so council
52:07 president um toan Martz will as a member
52:10 of the piic would would be at that
52:11 meeting and I will be there as a member
52:14 of the advisory
52:15 committee um the Cascade water Alliance
52:17 board met on February 27th we heard a
52:21 presentation by Texas A&M on uh
52:24 affordability of
52:26 Services uh which had some information
52:28 specific to isqua which was very
52:30 interesting and then we also heard about
52:33 uh alter um options for Cascades 2019
52:37 bond issue and um
52:40 also a option for um giving homeless
52:44 shelters relief from rcfc assessments so
52:47 this is the regional Capital facilities
52:50 charge and in that discussion we talked
52:52 about how we may need a broader
52:54 discussion about R cfc's in general and
52:57 how they're charged they're currently
52:59 charged on the basis of a meter and
53:01 there's a few options and so there may
53:04 be a bigger discussion around um making
53:07 that um giving different options for
53:10 that and the next meeting of the Cascade
53:12 water Alliance board is March 27th at
53:14 the Cascade offices in bellw and then
53:17 there was also a meeting related to
53:20 water but um organized by Lloyd Warren
53:23 of samamish plateau
53:25 to discuss Wastewater and this was
53:28 February 28th and the main um the main
53:31 reason for this meeting was about the
53:34 need for Wastewater service providers in
53:36 King County to have a voice and a vote
53:39 in issues around Wastewater service um
53:41 and this will also be coming forward to
53:44 a pck meeting at some currently
53:46 undefined meeting but again um as our as
53:50 the representative at the pick that
53:51 would be a meeting that council
53:53 president Martz would would hear more
53:54 information information about that
53:56 issue uh and then uh for land and Shore
54:00 we have an upcoming meeting this
54:01 Thursday March 7th um at 6:30 we have
54:07 two items on the agenda the first one is
54:10 7682 proposed amendments um 2018
54:13 comprehensive Plan central isqua plan
54:16 IMC and Central standards and ab
54:20 7683 amendments to IMC
54:24 18.74% Community facilities standards
54:26 regarding public buildings and that
54:29 concludes my report thank you council
54:31 member Ray thank you mayor Paulie the
54:33 next uh meeting of the services and
54:34 Safety Committee will be on March 12th
54:37 um at 6:30 here in council chambers we
54:40 have carried over agenda Bill 7723
54:43 Cemetery fee increases amending um IMC
54:48 2.204 other likely agenda items include
54:51 agenda Bill 7721 the 2019 Arch work work
54:55 program and budget agenda Bill
54:57 7739 amendments to interlocal agreement
55:00 with the Department of Natural Resources
55:03 for maintenance and use of the high
55:04 point trail head regarding property
55:06 acquisition and maintenance fees and
55:08 agenda Bill 7740 Puget Sound
55:12 Energy recreational use agreement and
55:14 permit for limited use of operating
55:16 property permits and that concludes my
55:18 report this evening thank you council
55:20 member winterstein thank you madam mayor
55:23 the council infrastructure committee met
55:24 on February 21st here in council
55:26 chambers the one item on the agenda was
55:28 agenda Bill
55:29 7714 amending isqua municiple code 18.22
55:35 Wireless communication facilities and
55:36 related fees this has to do with
55:39 changing our city code to align with new
55:41 FCC regulations regarding the permitting
55:44 fees sighting and design of wireless
55:46 communication equipment less than a year
55:48 ago we changed this part of our code in
55:50 a way that looked out after our best
55:52 interest and established our local
55:54 control over what the wireless industry
55:56 can do within our city however the new
55:58 FCC regulations Trump local control and
56:01 give the industry what they were seeking
56:02 which is very minimal regulatory
56:04 environment after making some changes
56:07 including in the areas of fees and
56:09 public notifications the committee
56:11 recommended sending the bill back to the
56:13 full Council for adoption tonight
56:15 however right at the very end of the
56:17 meeting some discussion about public
56:19 notification indicated that maybe we
56:21 didn't get that last part right so staff
56:24 asked me as chair and I concurred that
56:26 the proper Next Step was to keep this in
56:27 committee so that we can nail down this
56:29 last issue so on the consent agenda
56:31 tonight should it be adopted instead of
56:33 finalizing the changes to the IMC the
56:36 action is to send it back to the council
56:38 infrastructure committee's March meeting
56:40 which is scheduled for Thursday March
56:43 18th at this moment that is the only
56:45 item on the agenda for that meeting
56:47 other than the standard project status
56:49 report
56:50 update and then the growth management
56:52 policy board which is part of the pet
56:54 Regional Council our next meeting is
56:56 this Thursday March 7th at 10:00 a.m. to
56:59 1:00 p.m. at psrc headquarters in
57:01 Seattle the agenda everything relates to
57:04 the update to the Four County regions
57:06 vision for what development and growth
57:08 will look like in the year 2050 this is
57:10 known as U Vision 2050 so um on the
57:15 agenda we'll be there they will be
57:17 issuing the draft supplemental
57:19 environmental impact statement so we'll
57:21 be receiving that and then we'll be
57:22 having uh discussions about the envir
57:24 enal section of vision the department
57:27 excuse me the development patterns
57:28 section and the section on economy and
57:31 jobs which will be followed by a
57:33 breakout session to dive into more
57:37 detail that U so that's the agenda for
57:39 Thursday and that concludes my report
57:41 thank
57:42 you council member Goodman thank you
57:45 madam mayor uh the lodging tax advisory
57:47 committee and which of which I'm chair
57:49 this year has not yet met uh but on the
57:52 consent agenda tonight is agenda bill
57:55 7711 uh with recommended appointments
57:58 for the um other four members of the
58:00 committee and assuming that the consent
58:03 agenda passes as proposed then the
58:07 committee uh will set um its first
58:10 meeting for the year the East Side Fire
58:13 uh and rescue board of directors meets
58:14 on March 14th at 4M at headquarters on
58:17 Newport Way and the agenda has not yet
58:19 been set that's my
58:21 report thank you I council member
58:23 winterstein would you like to add to
58:24 your Yes actually I want to amend
58:26 something that I said I had a little
58:27 test in there to see if anybody was
58:29 listening somebody was um I actually
58:31 misreported the the infrastructure
58:33 meeting is on the 21st of March not the
58:35 18th so David don't show up on the
58:39 18th thank you thank youut council
58:42 president thank you Madame mayor no
58:44 report this evening thank you council
58:46 president Marts thank you Madame mayor
58:48 the sound cities Association public
58:50 issues committee he will be meeting on
58:51 Wednesday March 13th at 7:00 p.m. in
58:53 ritton City Hall we did not have a
58:55 February meeting so it is uh our agenda
58:58 is jam-packed and sca's uh long-standing
59:01 ability to get done in two minutes uh
59:03 two hours sorry will be sorely tested uh
59:06 we have a couple discussion items on
59:07 challenge Seattle middle Income Housing
59:10 Initiative uh also on initiative 976 we
59:13 have updates on Regional Transportation
59:15 Planning and homeless response system
59:17 and King County Parks Levy renewal and
59:19 King County Charter review commission
59:21 and 2019 State Legislature session and
59:24 solid way comprehensive plan and levies
59:26 and ballot well we always do levies and
59:28 ballot measures in King County uh we
59:30 have a couple of informational items on
59:32 responsible recycling task force
59:34 recommendations um as well as an
59:37 informational item on Vision 2050 which
59:40 I'll mention again in my gmpc update um
59:43 at the March 13th prepi Workshop as
59:46 council member hunt mentioned uh King
59:48 Conservation District staff will present
59:50 their proposed program of work for uh
59:52 2020 to 2025 which includes a proposed
59:55 potential rate increase of approximately
59:57 $3 per parcel and I will mention that
1:00:00 that is open to uh anyone but
1:00:03 particularly you know we could have we
1:00:05 could have all eight of us on the day
1:00:06 there if we wanted we just couldn't uh
1:00:09 you know we couldn't plan any isqua
1:00:11 policy but um those the prepi meetings
1:00:13 are open to everyone uh King County
1:00:17 growth management policy Council met on
1:00:19 Wednesday February 27th at 4 p.m. in
1:00:22 psrc Chambers we discussed two items
1:00:25 the first was on the gmpc affordable
1:00:27 housing committee uh there's a
1:00:29 presentation on the formation of that
1:00:32 committee the draft language associated
1:00:34 with it uh I would say that there was
1:00:37 nothing um potentially controversial
1:00:40 about that uh Geographic Equity was
1:00:43 discussed uh making sure that uh SCA
1:00:46 would have some uh some ability to
1:00:49 recommend uh I it will wind up
1:00:51 appointments to that committee will wind
1:00:53 up looking a lot like SCA point
1:00:54 appointments to other committees even
1:00:56 though uh executive Constantine will
1:00:58 actually do the approving of who's in
1:01:00 that committee um and then we discussed
1:01:02 Vision 2050 draft supplemental
1:01:04 environmental impact statement which you
1:01:06 heard about already uh from council
1:01:08 member winterstein and basically they
1:01:10 were just telling us about all the hard
1:01:11 work you guys are doing and uh that we
1:01:13 will eventually get to hear uh our bit
1:01:15 of it when the time comes so uh kudos to
1:01:18 all your hard work um that concludes my
1:01:21 report thank you council president Martz
1:01:24 so on to the mayor's report there will
1:01:26 not be an executive session held this
1:01:28 evening I wanted to um restate a
1:01:32 statement of support that the city
1:01:33 council and the mayor put out last week
1:01:35 regarding samamish the city of isqua is
1:01:38 sending its support to the samamish
1:01:39 community and its Council samamish has
1:01:42 recently experienced incidents of hate
1:01:44 crimes that include spray painting of
1:01:46 hateful racist graffiti on several homes
1:01:49 in the Kahani neighborhood I and the ISA
1:01:51 city council have voiced our strong
1:01:53 commitment to being an Equitable
1:01:55 welcoming and safe place for all we know
1:01:58 our neighbors to the north feel the same
1:01:59 way we're standing tall with you
1:02:01 samamish as you show that any Behavior
1:02:03 to the Contra contrary does not have a
1:02:06 place in our
1:02:07 community I traveled to Olympia last
1:02:10 Friday to join the mayor of Taquila and
1:02:12 the city council president of Kent in
1:02:13 testifying in support of Senate bill
1:02:16 5862 this proposed bill would continue
1:02:18 the Streamline sales tax mitigation
1:02:20 payments to cities that lost revenues
1:02:23 when the sales tax shifted in 2007 from
1:02:26 the originating location of a good to
1:02:28 the destination location of the consumer
1:02:31 the bill would extend these payments
1:02:32 which are currently scheduled to end in
1:02:35 October
1:02:36 2019 through to July 2030 the bill
1:02:39 passed out a committee after the
1:02:41 testimony and is now waiting to be
1:02:42 brought up for a vote on the senate
1:02:44 floor I also had a chance to briefly
1:02:46 meet with all six members of the
1:02:48 legislature who represent isqua to
1:02:50 highlight the city's legislative
1:02:52 priorities and thank them for their
1:02:53 ongoing support
1:02:55 report following the snow events last
1:02:57 month the Public Works operations team
1:02:59 is now working to clean the streets of
1:03:01 sand please be patient as our crews work
1:03:04 to clean all streets these cleanup
1:03:07 operations will take six to8 weeks as it
1:03:09 takes several passes with a sweeper to
1:03:11 pick up most of the
1:03:14 sand there will be uh another coffee
1:03:17 with the mayor event on Saturday from 9:
1:03:19 till 10:30 a.m. March 9th at yummy
1:03:22 yogurt on Front Street these are in
1:03:24 formal sessions where you can come and
1:03:26 drop by and chat with the mayor and ask
1:03:28 questions and meet some of your
1:03:30 neighbors and I look forward to engaging
1:03:32 with the community members for this this
1:03:35 dialogue um there are C classes starting
1:03:38 on March 6 the purpose of the community
1:03:42 Emergency Response Team SE training is
1:03:45 to provide individuals with the basic
1:03:46 skills that they will need to respond to
1:03:48 their community's immediate needs in the
1:03:50 aftermath of a disaster when emergency
1:03:53 services are not not immediately
1:03:55 available by working together C members
1:03:57 can assist in saving lives and
1:04:00 protecting property using the basic
1:04:01 techniques of the course the target
1:04:03 audience for this course is individuals
1:04:05 who desire the skills and knowledge
1:04:07 required to prepare for and respond to a
1:04:10 disaster spring classes will be held
1:04:13 evenings from 6:30 to 9:30 p.m. in the
1:04:15 training room at the isqua Public Works
1:04:17 operation building the course has a $35
1:04:20 fee and includes a c backpack and vest a
1:04:23 hard hat and basic Medical Supply kit to
1:04:26 register or learn more visit isqua
1:04:28 Citizen core.org and I do have to brag a
1:04:32 little bit because isqua has currently
1:04:35 got over 600 residents that are trained
1:04:39 to um respond in an emergency and assist
1:04:43 our um professional emergency responders
1:04:46 and that is a really high number for a
1:04:48 city of our size so we should all be
1:04:50 very proud of
1:04:52 that uh on January 26th I held a how to
1:04:56 run for office Workshop here in isqua
1:04:57 that was well attended King County is
1:05:00 also holding additional workshops to
1:05:01 help people who are interested in
1:05:03 running for office their workshops will
1:05:05 discuss offices up for election how to
1:05:07 become a candidate filing fees basic
1:05:10 campaign Finance information campaign
1:05:12 signs candidate statements for the
1:05:14 voters pamphlet the upcoming workshops
1:05:17 are Tuesday March 5th in samamish
1:05:19 Wednesday March 13th in Shoreline Monday
1:05:22 March 25th in Auburn Monday April 1st in
1:05:24 Redmond and Saturday April 6th and 20th
1:05:26 in Renton so for more details and
1:05:28 information please visit kingcounty.gov
1:05:32 elction I'd also like to do a call for
1:05:35 nominations for the city's Ruth keys
1:05:38 keys award this award is for nominating
1:05:42 outstanding citizens for the Ruth Keys
1:05:44 oh for Nom to nominate outstanding
1:05:46 citizens for the Ruth Keys environmental
1:05:48 award our community's highest honor for
1:05:50 ad environmental Advocates and the
1:05:52 community environmental award
1:05:54 Keys's namesake award honors the legacy
1:05:57 of a Grassroots activist who for more
1:05:59 than four decades advocated for the
1:06:00 preservation of landmarks and natural
1:06:03 areas sustainable development recycling
1:06:06 programs and the protection of the isqua
1:06:08 valley aquafer and Tiger Mountain the
1:06:10 award recognizes the efforts of
1:06:12 exemplary in individuals for
1:06:14 environmental excellence and
1:06:15 demonstrating enduring Vision dedication
1:06:18 and lasting effects building upon the
1:06:20 legacy of the Keys Award the community
1:06:22 environmental award recognizes
1:06:24 outstanding achievements by indivi
1:06:26 individuals groups or
1:06:28 organizations these achievements are
1:06:30 noteworthy in their impact and benefit
1:06:31 to the community while also smaller in
1:06:33 scal or Vision or shorter in duration or
1:06:36 more localized in impact the nomination
1:06:38 deadline for these is 5:00 pm March 8th
1:06:41 and more information and the nomination
1:06:43 form can be found on our website at
1:06:45 isqua
1:06:49 w.gov proceeding to the consent calendar
1:06:52 the consent calendar was distributed to
1:06:54 Council in advance if authorized the
1:06:56 items on the consent calendar will be
1:06:58 considered together and approved with
1:06:59 one motion have the payables and payroll
1:07:02 been reviewed yes yes thank you does any
1:07:05 council member desire to remove any item
1:07:07 from the consent calendar and bring it
1:07:09 down to regular
1:07:11 business seeing none is there a motion
1:07:14 Madame mayor I move we adopt the consent
1:07:16 calendar as listed in this evening's
1:07:17 published agenda second it's been moved
1:07:20 and seconded all those in favor signify
1:07:23 by saying I I who's
1:07:25 opposed thank you the next item on the
1:07:28 agenda is under regular business AB
1:07:31 7750 Transportation Capital Project
1:07:33 funding
1:07:34 recommendations this is coming out of
1:07:37 the ad hoc long-term finance committee
1:07:40 um whose members are the city
1:07:43 administrator Finance director and
1:07:44 council president Marts and council
1:07:46 members Ray and
1:07:48 winterstein I'd like to invite Finance
1:07:50 director Beth Goldberg to make a
1:07:52 presentation thank you
1:08:12 be sorry that was kind of a strange
1:08:17 introduction um don't mind me as I
1:08:20 destroy the
1:08:22 microphone
1:08:35 okay sorry about that I think we are
1:08:37 ready to go uh good evening Madame mayor
1:08:39 and council members um I am here tonight
1:08:44 to provide you all with an overview of
1:08:49 the ad hoc finance committee's
1:08:51 deliberations and recommendations over
1:08:54 the unfunded uh Transportation Capital
1:08:58 list um there is a detailed agenda bill
1:09:01 in your packets um I'm not going to go
1:09:04 into that level of detail this evening
1:09:06 and I'm going to focus on the highlights
1:09:08 um but uh would refer you to your
1:09:11 packets for additional information and
1:09:13 certainly if you have questions um don't
1:09:15 be shy so um and also I should add that
1:09:19 um in the uh we're going to take a
1:09:21 little bit of a pause in the middle of
1:09:22 this and I'm going to invite Sheldon
1:09:24 Lynn up to give a little bit of
1:09:26 background and some updated information
1:09:29 on a couple of the projects on the um
1:09:31 unfunded Transportation Capital list uh
1:09:34 for your benefit uh so first I want to
1:09:37 focus um on what we are going to discuss
1:09:40 tonight um first I'm going to provide
1:09:42 some background on um how we got to this
1:09:45 point um I'm going to provide an
1:09:47 overview of the revenue recommendations
1:09:49 that the ad hoc finance committee is
1:09:51 making to the full Council um also an
1:09:54 overview on the recommended project list
1:09:57 uh to fit within those revenues and then
1:10:00 last um there will be time for a council
1:10:03 discussion about next steps and
1:10:05 hopefully some direction back to us as
1:10:06 staff about how uh the full Council
1:10:09 wishes to
1:10:11 proceed uh s so first for the background
1:10:13 of how we got here uh just a reminder
1:10:16 that um uh the uh the topic of the
1:10:22 unfunded Transportation C capital
1:10:24 projects uh came up during uh council's
1:10:27 Financial Retreat uh last August and it
1:10:30 was during that session that there was
1:10:32 direction to the ad hoc finance
1:10:35 committee and the administration to
1:10:37 develop uh Revenue options to support
1:10:39 the unfunded Transportation Capital
1:10:41 priorities and then again uh during the
1:10:44 deliberations council deliberations over
1:10:46 the 2019 budget there was a direction
1:10:49 given to the ad hoc finance committee to
1:10:51 meet in the first quarter and uh report
1:10:54 back so uh that is where we are now the
1:10:57 ad hoc finance committee did meet uh
1:10:59 twice January 16th and February 13th and
1:11:04 uh the goal for tonight is to provide
1:11:06 you with an overview of their
1:11:07 recommendations and again an opportunity
1:11:10 for Council to provide information about
1:11:12 uh desired next
1:11:14 steps so first as a reminder um I want
1:11:18 to briefly highlight what is on this
1:11:21 so-called unfunded transportation
1:11:24 uh Capital list um some of the dollar
1:11:27 amounts on this list have changed since
1:11:29 you've last seen them as you all know
1:11:31 capital projects uh the uh the costing
1:11:35 of them can be dynamic and and fluid um
1:11:39 also there have been some uh there's one
1:11:41 project on here that I'll get to that uh
1:11:43 reflects um uh a recommended change in
1:11:46 priorities from the ad hoc finance
1:11:47 committee so briefly and actually before
1:11:50 I also say any more about this I'm
1:11:52 showing costs by year um because these
1:11:55 had been the planning numbers but I will
1:11:58 also say that given the timing of this
1:12:00 discussion that um and the timing of
1:12:04 when if Council wishes to implement the
1:12:07 revenue options the timing of these
1:12:09 expenditures might get pushed out so
1:12:11 this is this is simply for for um uh
1:12:15 example and and planning sake at this
1:12:17 point but this is subject to change so
1:12:18 the projects on the list um as you I
1:12:21 believe are all aware are Southeast for
1:12:23 33rd uh Newport Way from 54th to State
1:12:27 Route 900 uh the Central Park signal
1:12:30 Newport Way uh Maple to Sunset Northwest
1:12:34 samamish Road also known as the pinch
1:12:36 point this is where the ad hoc finance
1:12:39 committee um is recommending um an
1:12:42 expansion of this project uh reflected
1:12:45 in the uh cost in 2022 of 9.4 million
1:12:49 Sheldon will speak about this more
1:12:51 during his comments uh Northwest Gilman
1:12:54 concept development and then uh 12th uh
1:12:58 sr900
1:12:59 intersection uh I will also note that
1:13:02 this these are only the unfunded
1:13:04 Transportation needs and these are only
1:13:05 the unfunded costs on these projects uh
1:13:08 in addition to the transportation needs
1:13:11 uh the council has um identified in
1:13:14 other settings Parks funding needs um as
1:13:17 well as City facility needs those costs
1:13:20 are not captured here and that that's um
1:13:24 a topic that will be discussed in in
1:13:25 other venues so we're just focusing on
1:13:27 those Transportation priorities
1:13:30 here so um as the council deliberated um
1:13:36 $13.6 million costs of that uh list that
1:13:41 I just uh described um uh contemplated
1:13:47 uh a scenario where you're financing
1:13:49 these with 10year bonds and a scenario
1:13:51 where you're financing them with 20
1:13:53 20-year bonds and um the committee is
1:13:56 recommending that these projects be
1:13:58 financed with 20-year bonds uh for two
1:14:01 primary reasons uh first as uh
1:14:05 demonstrated on this chart here if we
1:14:08 were to proceed with the full $113
1:14:10 million package uh using 10year bonds
1:14:15 the uh annual Debt Service payments
1:14:17 would be $14.6
1:14:19 million and uh just to give you a little
1:14:22 bit of cont text of of what that means
1:14:25 currently our annual uh Debt Service
1:14:27 cost for non voted debt in the general
1:14:30 fund is 2.2 million so um a fairly
1:14:33 significant increase and just did not
1:14:35 feel like that was that was feasible so
1:14:38 started looking at 20-year bonds um the
1:14:40 annual Debt Service on 113.5 million is
1:14:44 9.2 million that still feels Out Of
1:14:47 Reach and too much for the city to take
1:14:49 on and I'll explain a little bit more
1:14:51 some of the revenue parameters tail this
1:14:53 but I wanted before we start talking to
1:14:56 explain why we're going the 20-year Bond
1:14:59 route rather than the 10-year bond route
1:15:02 um another variable in influencing this
1:15:04 decision is these are long-term capital
1:15:07 Investments that will yield benefits um
1:15:10 out towards 20 years so this is a way of
1:15:13 spreading the costs not only to current
1:15:15 taxpayers who will be benefiting from
1:15:17 the investment but also future pay
1:15:19 taxpayers who will be
1:15:22 benefiting
1:15:24 so uh the question is once you've
1:15:26 settled on or the recommendation of
1:15:29 20-year bonds uh how do you pay for The
1:15:31 Debt Service on those bonds and uh as
1:15:34 the committee was
1:15:36 contemplating these recommendations and
1:15:38 these options
1:15:41 um uh it was it was uh trying to be
1:15:45 mindful of the fact that the
1:15:47 transportation is only a segment of the
1:15:49 needs um we have a number of Revenue
1:15:52 tools at our disposal but some of them
1:15:55 are more flexible than others so for
1:15:58 example property tax could be used for
1:16:00 transportation Investments but it can
1:16:03 also be used for Parks Investments it
1:16:05 could be used for other City facility
1:16:07 Investments so that's that's a revenue
1:16:10 source that could be flexible so one
1:16:12 choice is you could dedicate that
1:16:13 towards Transportation but it might be
1:16:15 limiting your options for these other
1:16:18 needs on the other hand um the
1:16:21 transportation benefit District is
1:16:23 solely dedicated to Transportation so
1:16:26 you can't you can't exercise those
1:16:29 Revenue options and use them for
1:16:30 something else so um as the committee
1:16:34 contemplated the options um it first
1:16:38 looked at something that we're calling
1:16:40 existing Debt Service capacity and I'm
1:16:41 going to go into more of these in detail
1:16:43 looked at existing Debt Service capacity
1:16:45 and the ones that are highlighted are
1:16:47 that with the asterisks are the ones
1:16:49 they the committee is recommending
1:16:50 looked at Transportation benefit
1:16:52 District revenues and then also uh the
1:16:55 property tax um as I said um ruled out
1:17:00 the property tax uh because of its of
1:17:03 its flexibility I'll also note that the
1:17:06 committee is not recommending using
1:17:07 general fund fund balance um for a
1:17:10 couple of reasons first of all we're
1:17:13 analyzing our financial position um
1:17:16 we're not sure about the flexibility
1:17:18 with that funding source and also it is
1:17:21 a flexible funding source so it could be
1:17:23 used for other needs not just
1:17:25 transportation and then lastly using
1:17:27 that is not sharing the cost with uh
1:17:30 future tax
1:17:32 pairs so now I'm going to go through
1:17:34 each one of these uh revenues and
1:17:36 explain a little bit more about um the
1:17:40 amounts available to us from these
1:17:42 revenues and then why the committee uh
1:17:45 is or what what the committee is
1:17:46 recommending so first of all with
1:17:48 existing uh Debt Service capacity uh the
1:17:52 city as I me mentioned earlier currently
1:17:54 budgets about $2.2 million for uh Debt
1:17:58 Service on existing outstanding debt as
1:18:01 you will see from the chart on the slide
1:18:03 here uh we will be retiring um uh debt
1:18:08 over the next couple of years so uh in
1:18:11 2020 uh our debt service payments will
1:18:14 drop by about 600,000 in 2022 they'll
1:18:17 drop by another
1:18:19 663 th000 and then by 2028 um all of our
1:18:24 existing debt will be retired so if you
1:18:26 leverage that 2.2 million that becomes
1:18:29 available in increments between now and
1:18:32 2028 and the council were to make a
1:18:35 decision okay we're going to dedicate
1:18:37 that that funding back towards future
1:18:42 issuances the the city would be able to
1:18:44 finance about 22 I'm sorry $21 Million
1:18:48 worth of projects using 20-year
1:18:50 financing so basically that gives us 21
1:18:53 million to spend on Transportation
1:18:55 projects or other or other Capital needs
1:18:58 the committee is recommending uh
1:19:01 dedicating 14 million of this 21 million
1:19:05 towards the transportation projects the
1:19:08 committee is also recommending um that 7
1:19:12 million of this capacity be reserved for
1:19:16 uh Parks acquisition and development
1:19:18 costs these costs were also identified I
1:19:21 believe last August it predated my time
1:19:23 but I believe that was the juncture that
1:19:25 these costs were identified for as a
1:19:28 park need starting in 2020 and so the
1:19:32 committee decided okay let's allocate 7
1:19:35 million of the 21 million towards parks
1:19:38 and also recommended that at some point
1:19:41 uh the council have a separate
1:19:43 discussion on overall Parks funding not
1:19:46 just the Acquisitions and development
1:19:48 but also um the cost to implement the
1:19:51 Strategic plan so that's that's how the
1:19:54 21 becomes 14 in this
1:19:58 scenario uh so the transportation
1:20:00 benefit District revenues is a reminder
1:20:03 uh the council last January January of
1:20:06 2018 uh implemented or adopted a
1:20:09 transportation benefit district for the
1:20:10 city of isqua uh in adopting that
1:20:13 Transportation benefit District uh the
1:20:16 council has the ability to uh to
1:20:21 implement um revenues or collect
1:20:24 revenues that would it would not be
1:20:26 available to the city had a
1:20:28 transportation benefit District not be
1:20:30 not be adopted so uh Transportation
1:20:33 benefit districts do exist around the
1:20:35 state of Washington um and um they do
1:20:39 afford a number of Revenue tools to uh
1:20:42 the jurisdictions the two most common
1:20:45 Revenue tools and frequently implemented
1:20:47 Revenue tools are sales tax a a 2%
1:20:51 increase in the sales tax tax and a
1:20:54 vehicle license fee which uh can start
1:20:57 at $20 per vehicle and then gradually
1:21:00 ramp up um following a number of rules
1:21:03 outlined in
1:21:05 RCW uh two 0 2% sales tax increase if
1:21:09 the council were to decide to pursue
1:21:11 this does require uh uh voter approval
1:21:15 simple majority of the voters um so the
1:21:18 first step would be the council would
1:21:19 have to make a decision that they would
1:21:20 want to put this on the ballot and then
1:21:23 it would require a a a majority approval
1:21:27 by the voters to be implemented uh this
1:21:29 Revenue conservatively is estimated to
1:21:33 bring in about uh $2 million per year I
1:21:37 know there are some questions about how
1:21:39 this was estimated and why we're calling
1:21:41 this conservative um so um first of all
1:21:45 first and foremost sales tax is a
1:21:47 volatile Revenue source so um the desire
1:21:50 in being conservative is not to um be
1:21:54 overly aggressive on the assumptions
1:21:55 because if it's linked to debt and the
1:21:58 sales tax doesn't come in the city's
1:22:01 still obligated to pay that so this 2
1:22:03 million was calculated based on 2017
1:22:06 actual activity we know sales tax
1:22:09 activity has increased in subsequent
1:22:11 years so there could be some upward
1:22:14 pressure on this but we also know if you
1:22:16 follow what uh the economic
1:22:18 prognosticators are saying we are likely
1:22:21 heading for a downturn in the next year
1:22:23 or so so 2 million felt like a
1:22:26 conservative number um in this analysis
1:22:29 for planning purposes only um we're
1:22:32 assuming that that's a flat $2 million
1:22:34 so we're not assuming that there's some
1:22:36 growth in there that's another place
1:22:38 where there could be some Flex in these
1:22:40 numbers but again there was a desire to
1:22:43 approach this from a conservative
1:22:45 perspective especially knowing that this
1:22:47 is a volatile Revenue
1:22:49 Source um this sales tax if if approved
1:22:53 by the voters would be in place so long
1:22:56 as the city has outstanding debt on the
1:22:58 books related to um related to this
1:23:01 Revenue source so uh the committee is
1:23:05 recommending utilizing a sales tax to uh
1:23:08 to finance some of our transportation
1:23:11 Capital needs uh if you assume 20-year
1:23:14 bonds it would support 26 million doll
1:23:17 in Project costs the committee's
1:23:19 rationale for supporting the sales tax
1:23:22 as opposed to the vlf which the
1:23:24 committee is not recommending is that as
1:23:27 a regional retail Hub um and people who
1:23:32 are using our retail facilities not just
1:23:34 residents but from outside the area that
1:23:36 are using our roads all of those parties
1:23:39 would be contributing through the sales
1:23:41 Tech so it's a way of spreading the
1:23:44 costs more equitably across all users of
1:23:48 the road not just uh not just isqua
1:23:51 residents um so that had some appeal to
1:23:55 uh the committee and I'm sure um some of
1:23:58 you may want to weigh in on this when
1:23:59 I'm I'm done presenting but I I'm I I
1:24:02 believe I'm capturing some of the
1:24:04 sentiments um the committee is not
1:24:06 recommending the VF because there was a
1:24:09 sense that um that this is a regressive
1:24:12 tax and that it's not tied to the value
1:24:15 of the vehicle it's just if you drive a
1:24:17 clunker it's $20 and if you drive a
1:24:19 Tesla it's $20 um so the the fact that
1:24:22 it's not tied to vehicle value um was a
1:24:25 concern to the committee members and
1:24:28 again this is not a way of spreading the
1:24:30 costs across all the users of our
1:24:34 roads so um to Briefly summarize what
1:24:38 the the two preferred financing
1:24:41 strategies will get us in terms of
1:24:43 project costs if you add up the 14
1:24:46 million available from the existing Debt
1:24:48 Service capacity and the 26 million from
1:24:52 the sales tax that would give the city
1:24:56 conservatively $40 million to um spend
1:25:00 on Transportation Capital priorities
1:25:03 over um 20 year 20-year financing so um
1:25:06 this leaves as you see here a pretty big
1:25:09 gap compared to the 113 million and I
1:25:13 just want to provide a little bit of con
1:25:15 context of why then the committee didn't
1:25:18 choose for example to Levy the property
1:25:21 tax to close this Gap if the if the city
1:25:25 were to implement um or to utilize
1:25:28 existing Debt Service capacity implement
1:25:30 the sales tax and implement the vlf
1:25:33 which the committee is not recommending
1:25:35 you would still be short and would have
1:25:37 to um increase property taxes depending
1:25:40 on how you calculate the numbers between
1:25:42 30 30% and 50% above the current
1:25:46 property tax rates the committee did not
1:25:49 feel like that was going to be um well
1:25:51 received by the community so based on
1:25:54 that analysis started looking at okay
1:25:57 how can we scale the project Investments
1:26:01 to meet the $40 million worth of
1:26:03 revenues that the committee decided it
1:26:05 was comfortable recommending to the full
1:26:09 Council so to do this and I'm going to
1:26:12 give a brief overview here and then I'm
1:26:14 going to turn this over over to Sheldon
1:26:16 to give some more information um to do
1:26:19 this the committee looked at scaling the
1:26:22 scope of the unfunded Transportation
1:26:24 Capital priority list and the main
1:26:27 strategy was to um fund the two Newport
1:26:32 projects through right of-way
1:26:34 acquisition only and to put the
1:26:38 construction costs out to a future time
1:26:40 period it's not uncommon for the city to
1:26:44 break up Capital Investments and do
1:26:47 design and RightWay acquisition in one
1:26:49 phase and then at a later date come back
1:26:52 to the construction um and there are a
1:26:54 variety of other reasons that Sheldon
1:26:56 will go into but in doing this um you
1:26:59 reduce the unfunded Capital needs
1:27:02 Transportation Capital needs to 38.8
1:27:05 million which fits within the 40 million
1:27:08 doll worth of revenues that uh the ad
1:27:11 hoc committee is recommending to the
1:27:13 full Council and with that I will turn
1:27:16 it over to Sheldon to explain a little
1:27:18 bit more background on a couple of the
1:27:21 projects
1:27:27 thank you Beth I'm Sheldon Lynn director
1:27:30 of Public Works
1:27:31 engineering as Beth mentioned I'm going
1:27:34 to talk a little bit about the three
1:27:35 projects that have uh unique influences
1:27:39 from outside agencies and I'll talk a
1:27:41 little bit more information uh that was
1:27:44 presented at the committee uh which
1:27:46 helped inform their uh discussion as
1:27:48 well as their final recommendations
1:27:50 regarding the three projects the three
1:27:52 projects I'm going to speak to are the
1:27:54 two new portway
1:27:56 projects sr900 to Southeast 54th and
1:27:59 maple to Sunset and then the Northwest
1:28:01 samamish Road pinch Point
1:28:04 project I'll begin with the Newport Way
1:28:07 projects the two projects that we're
1:28:09 talking about are located as shown here
1:28:11 inside the city uh the sr900 of
1:28:14 Southeast 54th is west of sr900 shown in
1:28:17 yellow and the maple to Sunset project
1:28:20 which is shown in blue which extends
1:28:22 from Maple down to West Sunset
1:28:26 way the two new portway projects
1:28:30 currently those projects have had
1:28:32 Council action uh approving Design
1:28:35 Concepts for both of those
1:28:37 corridors in addition to that sr900 and
1:28:41 southe excuse me Newport Way from 900 to
1:28:44 Southeast 54th has been under design as
1:28:48 has the maple the sunset project however
1:28:51 the sr900 the southeast 54th project has
1:28:54 recently undergone a value engineering
1:28:57 study uh within that study there are
1:29:00 recommendations that could result in
1:29:02 some estimated cost reductions pending
1:29:04 the implementation of some of the design
1:29:06 changes that are recommended but are
1:29:09 still under consideration by the
1:29:12 administration in the latter part of the
1:29:14 second quarter of this year the
1:29:16 administration anticipates coming to the
1:29:17 city council to inform a bit more detail
1:29:20 about what that value engineering study
1:29:22 recommended and what it sees as possible
1:29:24 implementation strategies in there to
1:29:26 reduce that
1:29:28 cost collectively the two new portway
1:29:31 projects have received approximately
1:29:34 $3.3 million in federal funding for the
1:29:37 design work that's been going on since
1:29:42 2017 the administration expects to
1:29:45 receive in 2019 and 20 approximately
1:29:49 another $5.1 million collectively
1:29:51 between the two projects to go towards
1:29:55 the RightWay
1:29:57 acquisition
1:29:58 I in 2018 in June the Federal Highway
1:30:02 Administration
1:30:05 fhwa promulgated a ruling and that
1:30:08 ruling requires repayment of any federal
1:30:10 funds used for design if the agency
1:30:14 hasn't
1:30:15 substantially uh completed the RightWay
1:30:18 acquisition phase within 10 years of the
1:30:21 original Money being made available for
1:30:24 design that means that if the city
1:30:27 doesn't move forward with RightWay
1:30:29 acquisition by roughly 2026 2027
1:30:34 2028 it would be required to pay back
1:30:37 the money that's been used uh the
1:30:39 federal money that's been used uh on
1:30:42 these two
1:30:46 projects following up on that further
1:30:49 research was done into the code of
1:30:51 federal Federal Regulations the cfrs to
1:30:54 see what sort of requirements might come
1:30:56 up if there was Federal money used in
1:30:59 the RightWay acquisition
1:31:01 phase the
1:31:03 cfrs actually state that it's a
1:31:06 requirement that if Federal money is
1:31:08 used within the RightWay phase that the
1:31:13 agency would have 20 years to move
1:31:16 forward uh with
1:31:19 construction the cfrs however do not
1:31:22 stipulate a repayment
1:31:24 requirement that being said the fhwa
1:31:28 could still promulgate a rule such as
1:31:31 they did for the pre for the design work
1:31:35 repayment may be required that has not
1:31:38 occurred yet but there's some risk in
1:31:40 that if within that 20-year period uh
1:31:44 the uh City doesn't move forward with
1:31:47 construction so factors that influence
1:31:50 the committee uh
1:31:52 our preservation of federal funding the
1:31:56 ability to completely fund the projects
1:31:58 through construction at this time as
1:32:00 Beth had spoken about the ability to
1:32:03 service the debt Grant agency relations
1:32:06 when going for future grants as well as
1:32:09 avoidance of sunk costs the committee's
1:32:11 recommendation on on these two projects
1:32:13 was to fund
1:32:16 the design and rightaway acquisition
1:32:19 phases and then following up with with
1:32:22 you know trying to get money for
1:32:25 construction uh over the coming years
1:32:28 after that's
1:32:33 completed the Northwest samamish Road
1:32:35 pinch
1:32:36 Point little background on this one and
1:32:39 I'll have more slides that talk a little
1:32:41 bit more graphically about this but uh
1:32:45 there's a section along Northwest
1:32:46 samamish road that is uh affected by
1:32:49 steep topography on the immediate north
1:32:52 side as well as narrow RightWay and
1:32:54 ability to go to the South uh as it's
1:32:57 confined by the Interstate
1:33:00 90 having seen this the city requested
1:33:03 wash do to include in its auxiliary Lane
1:33:06 project a retaining wall excavation work
1:33:09 to create more available right away for
1:33:11 the city to expand southernly rather
1:33:14 than expanding into the homes to the
1:33:15 north and also to Grant the RightWay
1:33:18 from the limited access of I90 to the
1:33:20 city of isqu
1:33:22 wasat did agree to that with the
1:33:25 condition that it would have that it had
1:33:27 the budget to do so within its
1:33:28 connecting Washington
1:33:31 project wasad is as a place if you
1:33:34 recall the January 29th cow meeting
1:33:37 wasat presented that it is now at a
1:33:39 place getting ready to advertise for
1:33:41 construction bids the engineers estimate
1:33:44 for the retaining wall uh was an
1:33:46 additional $6 million approximately to
1:33:49 the cost of the project in in and of
1:33:53 itself there were also uncertainties
1:33:55 that wash do had the bid
1:33:58 climate wash dot as well as Sound
1:34:00 Transit have been seeing bids 10 to 40%
1:34:03 over Engineers
1:34:05 estimate in addition to that the
1:34:07 engineers estimate is so close to the
1:34:09 maximum available funding for the
1:34:11 construction that there's very little
1:34:13 contingency available uh to handle
1:34:17 unknowns that are encountered during
1:34:20 construction
1:34:22 the Nuance here and why watch doot is
1:34:25 asking for the uh a share uh for that
1:34:29 wall from isqua is that if the bid is
1:34:32 above the maximum available the bid is
1:34:35 automatically
1:34:36 rejected the request from wash do if you
1:34:39 recall from January 29th is $3 million
1:34:42 from the city which is approximately
1:34:44 half of what the additional cost would
1:34:46 be uh to build the wall as part of their
1:34:50 project and what that does is it
1:34:52 increases the maximum available amount
1:34:55 which would help pay for the additional
1:34:56 cost associated with the city's
1:34:59 request at the January 29th meeting it
1:35:03 was uncertain when a decision by the
1:35:05 city would be required needed by wash do
1:35:07 with with regard to their
1:35:10 ask since that time watch do has
1:35:12 informed us that the request is needed
1:35:15 the answer I should say is needed by
1:35:18 April
1:35:20 2nd that's a little bit of background
1:35:22 I'm going to go a little bit more now
1:35:24 into what the projects are what's going
1:35:26 to what the plan is and then next
1:35:32 steps the area in red here is
1:35:35 specifically the pincho area which was
1:35:37 the original uh smaller scaled project
1:35:40 that had a $5.6 million unfunded amount
1:35:44 to it this is the area where wash doot
1:35:47 is planning to build a retaining wall
1:35:49 excavate out the material and provide us
1:35:51 with with additional RightWay to work in
1:35:53 so we can provide pedestrian and
1:35:55 non-motorized Facilities through this
1:35:58 area it's approximately 1,200 ft long uh
1:36:02 and this area of work is integral to any
1:36:05 project along this road that's going to
1:36:07 provide a continuous bicycle and
1:36:10 pedestrian facility to connect South
1:36:12 Cove to the state park and
1:36:15 Beyond wash Dot's ask is on this one
1:36:18 again is for $3
1:36:20 million uh and it's for this area
1:36:24 only as Beth mentioned the committee's
1:36:27 recommendation is actually for a larger
1:36:30 project that larger project is shown in
1:36:33 yellow it would extend from Southeast
1:36:37 93rd all the way to the state park
1:36:39 entrance uh where it is today it's an
1:36:43 additional $9 million for the larger
1:36:46 project above the uh 5.6 that's already
1:36:50 identified ified for the smaller
1:36:59 project so
1:37:00 some quick Graphics brief information
1:37:03 about the pincho itself this is a Google
1:37:05 Street View you can see the road Narrows
1:37:08 quite uh quite tightly through here
1:37:11 between I90 on the left and the Steep
1:37:15 drop off to the right which goes down to
1:37:17 the homes if you look you can see a oh
1:37:21 where's my mouse here's a car coming out
1:37:24 uh as you can see the car is barely
1:37:27 visible and the driver has a hard time
1:37:30 seeing as well and it is on a very steep
1:37:32 driveway uh this is the reason why we
1:37:35 have a pinch Point there's no room to do
1:37:37 any work
1:37:39 in what wot's planning to do under their
1:37:42 contract which is plan to go out to bid
1:37:44 on March 18th is they are planning to
1:37:50 construct a new retaining wall here as
1:37:53 well as sound walls on top of it and
1:37:56 then the area that is shown right here
1:37:59 is an existing wall with some fill that
1:38:01 leads up to I90 Mainline once they build
1:38:05 this wall and retaining structure they
1:38:07 will excavate this material out
1:38:09 providing the additional room for
1:38:11 bicycle and pedestrian facilities for
1:38:13 the city to come in at a later point in
1:38:15 time to
1:38:17 build so if the city were to fund the $3
1:38:19 million there would be still a $2.6
1:38:22 million unfunded amount for the city to
1:38:26 come in later and build the the wall if
1:38:29 it's only in the smaller
1:38:32 area I'm noticing council member
1:38:35 winterstein shaking his head and so I'd
1:38:38 like to may I ask a question sure you
1:38:46 bet if we designate $3 million for wash
1:38:50 dot for this project
1:38:52 that does not reduce the cost of that
1:38:55 project to
1:38:57 us no it does not what it what I'm
1:39:00 saying is is that that would have
1:39:02 already come out of the unfunded
1:39:06 conversation and you'd still have
1:39:08 remaining unfunded to get to the project
1:39:11 that the committee
1:39:13 desires you're right it's currently
1:39:15 unfunded the 3 million is unfunded well
1:39:18 the smaller section of the pinch point
1:39:21 you originally showed in red which I
1:39:22 think you said was 5.6 million correct
1:39:24 right that 3 million that we're talking
1:39:26 about is not part of that 5.6 it is
1:39:29 that's just to get the wall that that's
1:39:31 just to make sure that wash dot builds
1:39:33 that wall that 3 million is part of the
1:39:36 5.6 okay that's not how we understood
1:39:38 that but okay I know we're not making
1:39:41 any final decisions tonight thank you
1:39:43 right no but okay
1:39:46 so this is the pincho and cross-section
1:39:50 it's not to scale it's just graphical
1:39:55 representation from an artist rendering
1:39:57 perspective or I should say an engineer
1:39:58 rendering perspective uh generally this
1:40:01 is what it's going to look like through
1:40:03 the area of the wash out retaining wall
1:40:05 and sound wall the lower part of this is
1:40:07 the retaining wall the upper part is the
1:40:09 sound wall they're just going to leave a
1:40:11 gravel area here for the city to come in
1:40:13 later and do the improvements that it
1:40:15 needs to do between the wall and the
1:40:17 edge of pavement here on the north side
1:40:22 next steps is the administration's
1:40:24 preparing an agenda Bill working with uh
1:40:28 wash do to prepare a draft agreement to
1:40:31 for the council's consideration on March
1:40:33 18th uh to make a decision on the $3
1:40:38 million request uh that wot has made for
1:40:41 sharing in the wall cost in the pincho
1:40:44 area and with that if there's any
1:40:47 questions I can answer them otherwise
1:40:48 I'm going to pass it back to Beth that's
1:40:50 do you have additional financial
1:40:51 information to present I I have a
1:40:54 summary is it okay if we get through the
1:40:56 final summary and then we open it up for
1:40:58 questions okay you're up
1:41:06 Beth okay that went a little bit
1:41:08 smoother this time um so uh just to
1:41:13 summarize uh where we are from a
1:41:16 financial perspective um again uh
1:41:20 committee is recommending using existing
1:41:23 Debt Service capacity 14 million sales
1:41:26 tax uh would afford US 26 million for a
1:41:29 total of 40 million uh the
1:41:32 Transportation uh Capital priorities
1:41:34 identified by the ad hoc committee total
1:41:37 38.8 million this leaves um some wiggle
1:41:40 room of 1.2 million um and in addition
1:41:44 we have not tapped the VF if there are
1:41:47 future needs and um it preserves
1:41:49 property tax for for other purposes so
1:41:52 this is sort of the the financial
1:41:54 summary of what uh the ad hoc committee
1:41:57 is recommending and then um just want to
1:42:00 before turning this over to uh Council
1:42:03 for questions and discussion uh the um
1:42:07 staff is seeking um direction from the
1:42:10 council about whether it supports the ad
1:42:13 hoc committees uh recommended Revenue
1:42:16 strategies uh whether the council
1:42:18 supports the recommended 38.8 million
1:42:21 project list including the Newport Way
1:42:24 strategy that uh Sheldon discussed and
1:42:27 then um if Council has a desired
1:42:29 timeline for implementing the plan I
1:42:32 will point out in terms of implementing
1:42:34 the plan if there is a desire to go to
1:42:38 ballot with uh the sales tax we do have
1:42:41 some deadlines so if there were is a
1:42:44 desire to put this on the August ballot
1:42:47 uh we would have to get the complete
1:42:49 ballot package to the King County um
1:42:53 voter's office by uh early May um if
1:42:57 there's a desire to get this on the
1:42:59 November general election 2019 general
1:43:02 election there is a deadline in early
1:43:05 August I also want to point out that um
1:43:09 once the sales tax is approved if it's
1:43:12 approved we would have to wait till the
1:43:16 end of the
1:43:18 quarter um after which the election is
1:43:21 certified to implement the sales tax so
1:43:25 for example if you put this on the
1:43:26 ballot in November uh the city would not
1:43:30 be able to start levying the sales tax
1:43:32 increase until April 1st of 2020 um
1:43:37 there is a two-month lag on when we
1:43:39 actually receive the revenues from the
1:43:41 state so that the first payment wouldn't
1:43:44 start rolling in until June of 2020 so
1:43:49 just want to give you that on on
1:43:51 timeline these rules apply whether it's
1:43:54 put on the ballot this year next year um
1:43:56 but just to make you aware as as you are
1:43:59 um considering how you wish to proceed
1:44:02 and then depending on the information
1:44:04 you provide to us tonight that will
1:44:06 influence when and how we come back to
1:44:10 committee thank you so it is time for
1:44:15 questions and then
1:44:17 discussion any other questions
1:44:21 member
1:44:22 H I had many questions
1:44:26 um so the first one is about the sales
1:44:30 tax and um the agenda material says that
1:44:34 the sales tax would support
1:44:35 Transportation related Investments so I
1:44:38 wondered if the sales tax has a time
1:44:42 limit on it if um it is tied to debt um
1:44:47 then it stays in place until the debt is
1:44:50 retired re
1:44:51 tired so if it were a 10e debt it would
1:44:54 be in place for 10 years and then it
1:44:56 would go back to the original unless the
1:44:58 council decided to reimpose the sales
1:45:01 tax although that would require a vote
1:45:04 as well is my understanding okay so on
1:45:06 the ballot it would say it's a 10e yes
1:45:08 increase or if or 20 yes or oh 20
1:45:12 depending on the yes it would say the
1:45:14 length of the bond okay
1:45:18 um I would like more information about
1:45:22 the pros and cons of using the general
1:45:23 funds and also of any other other
1:45:26 methods um other than the vehicle
1:45:29 license and the property tax so were
1:45:33 there other uh funding methods that were
1:45:35 discussed by the ad hoc committee and
1:45:37 then pros and cons of those
1:45:39 um yes to a to a certain extent yes so
1:45:43 um first to use the general funds their
1:45:47 their frankly is not um a lot of
1:45:51 capacity within the current revenue
1:45:54 streams to afford um this level of
1:45:59 investment and um to dedicate the
1:46:03 existing general fund I assume you're
1:46:05 talking general fund Revenue as opposed
1:46:07 to fund balance um which I touched on
1:46:10 briefly in my presentation but I if you
1:46:12 want both I could talk about both um so
1:46:15 if if the if the council were to decide
1:46:19 to allocate general fund revenues to um
1:46:24 pay for this debt um it would take away
1:46:28 from investments in other things like
1:46:31 operating costs um so we just don't have
1:46:34 a lot of growth in the general fund so
1:46:36 don't feel like there's a lot of
1:46:37 capacity particularly when um
1:46:40 considering other Council priorities
1:46:43 that um we know are coming down the pike
1:46:45 particularly related to the Strategic
1:46:48 plan okay can I I I would actually like
1:46:52 to also address that question um so in
1:46:54 December of 2017 when authorizing the
1:46:57 transportation benefit District uh we
1:47:00 had um a pretty extensive conversation
1:47:02 it was the tail end of of a long budget
1:47:05 season um but uh we did and we talked
1:47:08 quite a bit about the uh sales tax
1:47:11 versus the property tax and um I would
1:47:14 say that in the ad hoc finance committee
1:47:17 by and large um I personally as one of
1:47:20 seven um uh deferred to that
1:47:23 conversation um I hate regressive taxes
1:47:27 um the only really progressive tax that
1:47:30 we have is and this isn't true for
1:47:33 seniors on a fixed income but I mean the
1:47:34 closest that we have to a progressive
1:47:36 tax is a property tax however it was the
1:47:38 will of the council at the time uh I
1:47:41 think to with a preference to the
1:47:42 transportation benefit District both
1:47:44 because it would allow uh uh a larger uh
1:47:49 lever arm if you will on what we could
1:47:52 do but also more philosophically this
1:47:54 idea that was mentioned earlier about
1:47:56 the uh uh the fact that it would be a
1:47:59 larger uh pool if you will and it and
1:48:02 would affect the people who come to
1:48:04 isqua to do business in isqua that
1:48:05 contribute to some traffic but to to to
1:48:08 your question I think it was that um at
1:48:10 least I um in ad hoc Finance really
1:48:13 wanted to stay as much as possible
1:48:17 um uh supporting the decision that was
1:48:19 made by Council in December
1:48:21 2017 any other committee members want to
1:48:23 make a comment that might help council
1:48:25 member hunt
1:48:28 understand R I'm just going to kind of
1:48:30 um pile on a bit with what president
1:48:33 March was talking about which is one of
1:48:35 the things that I liked about the tra
1:48:38 Transportation benefit District in using
1:48:39 the sales tax is part of our traffic is
1:48:43 generated locally and part of our
1:48:44 traffic is generated outside of our city
1:48:47 and the best way to match the cost of
1:48:52 the transportation initiatives with the
1:48:56 source of revenue for the transportation
1:48:57 initiatives was really to use the sales
1:48:59 tax which was a way to share the burden
1:49:02 across different
1:49:05 constituencies you want yeah I would and
1:49:07 thank you for the question I think you
1:49:08 also asked about the general fund use of
1:49:11 the general fund and and I do beth did
1:49:13 mention earlier and I do agree with this
1:49:15 philosophically the idea of borrowing
1:49:17 especially at the rates that we can get
1:49:19 uh allows us uh though that um as we get
1:49:23 access to the money and then pay that
1:49:24 off the taxes we collect over the 20
1:49:27 years um will come from those people
1:49:29 that are currently haven't contributed
1:49:32 anything to our roads or people who
1:49:34 haven't yet right so the idea that that
1:49:36 you borrow money and then pay that off
1:49:38 over a term such as 20 years then future
1:49:41 beneficiaries will be contributing to
1:49:43 the cost of that to use cash on hand
1:49:45 basically it's what people have already
1:49:47 contributed and they'll be you know
1:49:48 they'll be benefiting people in the
1:49:50 future who maybe wouldn't have paid
1:49:51 toward that at
1:49:53 all that that means something to me that
1:49:56 means something to me and and my both my
1:49:58 colleagues have said something about the
1:50:00 the TBD and and and the 2% uh aspect as
1:50:04 well and I I do we we discuss it quite a
1:50:06 bit and I did agree with what was said
1:50:09 earlier but I do want to share with the
1:50:11 group one more this is um a little bit
1:50:14 more I've did I've done some research on
1:50:16 that particular piece and um these are
1:50:20 actual these are actual
1:50:22 numbers so in January and February of
1:50:28 2019 my household paid
1:50:31 $138 in isqua City sales tax um that
1:50:36 that comes from We Bought books and
1:50:39 clothing and did some dining out bought
1:50:41 some dog food and some special grocery
1:50:43 items and I paid for 60,000 M
1:50:45 maintenance on my vehicle and I updated
1:50:48 my I renewed my Amazon Prime member
1:50:50 membership and I went got some over the
1:50:52 uh counter medications we bought some
1:50:54 computer supplies uh I bought a special
1:50:56 tool for my bicycle bought some
1:50:58 toiletries I mean I've been keeping
1:51:00 track of this because I knew this was
1:51:01 coming I wanted to get a sense of what
1:51:02 this would actually be so I've actually
1:51:04 been tracking all of this now other
1:51:06 things that we purchase such as airline
1:51:08 tickets um a hotel stay some other
1:51:10 travel costs other expenses outside of
1:51:13 isqua those don't count um all our
1:51:15 utilities our utility taxes sewer water
1:51:18 phone uh cable
1:51:20 um um and others there's no sales tax
1:51:24 involved with that uh any auto home or
1:51:27 medical insurance there's no sales tax
1:51:29 with that so and any medical expenses
1:51:31 most of them don't have sales tax so
1:51:33 when I add all that up and did a little
1:51:35 bit of math basically
1:51:38 2% 2% more would have meant I would have
1:51:43 spent less than $3 more than I actually
1:51:46 did so if I um extrapolate that over a
1:51:50 year if our sales tax was 10.2 instead
1:51:54 of 10.0 it would mean somewhere be at
1:51:57 that spending rate didn't make a lot of
1:51:59 large purchases so it could go up
1:52:01 anywhere from15 to $25 extra and it
1:52:05 would pay
1:52:06 otherwise so that um with those
1:52:09 numbers um um you I talked to a few
1:52:12 people and tried to get a sense of that
1:52:15 and um um the general reaction has been
1:52:20 that at that level um it didn't feel so
1:52:25 regressive especially because we would
1:52:28 also be collecting it from non-citizens
1:52:30 who came here and shopped or bought
1:52:33 services and it would be spread out so
1:52:35 it would be leveraged significantly by
1:52:38 uh by the retail business and others
1:52:40 within the city so it's this combination
1:52:42 of reasons why I uh uh favored that
1:52:46 option um and instead of including
1:52:48 instead of using cash on on hand and the
1:52:51 last comment I'll say and it's not
1:52:53 really related to your question uh Vicki
1:52:55 but the one option you have up there
1:52:57 using existing debt capacity I want
1:52:59 everybody to know that that is the no
1:53:01 new taxes option there was two up there
1:53:05 there's a no new taxes option that's
1:53:07 about 14 million and then this sales tax
1:53:11 was the balance that we could
1:53:12 potentially raise thank you so what I'm
1:53:15 doing here since we're going to have a
1:53:16 discussion later on and kind of go
1:53:17 through some policy questions and do
1:53:19 some thumbs up and down so we can get
1:53:20 some direction back is I'm thank you for
1:53:23 the explanation that's helpful I am just
1:53:26 leaving that down as an open question
1:53:27 for when we get to do you support the ad
1:53:30 hoc Finance committee's recommendation
1:53:32 in which case the other four council
1:53:34 members are taking question and answer
1:53:37 right now so that they can form their
1:53:39 decision so would you like to continue
1:53:41 with your questions yes thank you
1:53:43 Council thank you to the ad hoc
1:53:44 committee for the added information that
1:53:46 was actually just very helpful so I
1:53:49 really appreciate it and um and then I
1:53:52 have a few more questions one is about
1:53:56 the projected Revenue you said it was
1:53:59 conservative um and I wondered what
1:54:02 assumptions go into that
1:54:04 and how conservative basically more
1:54:07 understanding of how that projection
1:54:10 gets made yeah so as I said in my
1:54:12 remarks earlier that it is based on our
1:54:16 2017 actual sales tax activity
1:54:20 um we have seen increase in retail
1:54:24 activity since then so in that sense it
1:54:27 is a conservative number
1:54:32 um and we also are assuming that it
1:54:35 stays flat over the life of the debt um
1:54:39 so there should be some growth but sales
1:54:42 tax as I mentioned is an extremely
1:54:45 volatile Revenue source so when the
1:54:47 economy
1:54:48 contracts that is one of the first
1:54:51 revenues that starts Contracting and
1:54:53 just to give you um some context during
1:54:55 the Great Recession over I believe it
1:54:58 was a 2-year period it's been a while
1:54:59 since I looked at this but I believe it
1:55:01 was over a 2-year period the city sought
1:55:04 sales tax collections contract by 25% so
1:55:08 um using a a a $2 million flat um
1:55:14 Revenue over a 20-year period was um um
1:55:20 a a a straightforward way of taking into
1:55:24 account those fluctuations and again um
1:55:29 you know ultimately it's the council's
1:55:31 decision but as a finance director who
1:55:34 um lived through the Great Recession I
1:55:37 would not recommend maxing this out and
1:55:40 being too aggressive with this because
1:55:44 um you're going to have to pay those
1:55:46 Debt Service payments regardless of
1:55:48 whether the revenue material
1:55:49 materializes or not or not so if you
1:55:52 took some overly aggressive uh Revenue
1:55:57 assumptions on this and you tied the
1:55:59 debt to that and the revenue didn't
1:56:01 materialize we would be having to look
1:56:03 for example in the general fund to make
1:56:05 those those payments um again you know
1:56:09 we will be updating these numbers if
1:56:11 there is a desire for the the council to
1:56:14 pursue this as we get for example 2018
1:56:17 data we can look at this again but for
1:56:20 planning purposes this conservative
1:56:22 number seemed like a good
1:56:24 ballpark thank you I think this is
1:56:27 related so next steps um in the agenda
1:56:30 bill it talked about refined Revenue
1:56:33 estimates and I wondered if that meant
1:56:36 the sales tax revenues or general fund
1:56:39 revenues or or what is sales tax we are
1:56:42 going to be reporting back to the
1:56:44 council hopefully in the next month or
1:56:46 so on how we finish 2018 so that's in
1:56:50 general but in the context of this it
1:56:52 would be looking if the committee if the
1:56:55 council desired to pursue the sales tax
1:56:58 it would be looking at refining these
1:56:59 sales tax
1:57:02 numbers okay um would that change the
1:57:06 projection in terms of how much it could
1:57:09 it could I mean it could and it could um
1:57:14 it could
1:57:16 conceivably increase the amount
1:57:18 available but again it's you know we're
1:57:21 going to have to be looking at you know
1:57:24 does the economy contract in 2020 like
1:57:27 many people are are projecting and if
1:57:29 that's the case then right out of the
1:57:32 gate you know this number may not be
1:57:34 what we were
1:57:38 anticipating you know there's there's in
1:57:40 with predicting the economy and
1:57:42 predicting Revenue such as sales tax
1:57:44 there is some difficulty again having
1:57:48 lived through the Great recession and
1:57:50 having to do um lots of um midyear
1:57:53 adjustments because the revenues didn't
1:57:55 materialize hopefully we don't live
1:57:56 through something like that again but um
1:58:00 it's hard to predict the um extent of um
1:58:05 a scale back and for how long it will
1:58:09 okay um I have a question which I think
1:58:12 might be more of a Sheldon
1:58:18 question
1:58:20 this this is regarding the pinch Point
1:58:24 project and the 3 million for wash dot
1:58:27 um and it's my understanding is that
1:58:31 it's sort of a buffer on their overall
1:58:33 project cost so that bids to try to
1:58:37 prevent bids from being too high coming
1:58:40 in being closer to what actually will
1:58:42 come in that correct that is correct
1:58:45 okay and so what is what is that percent
1:58:47 of the whole cost you know approximately
1:58:51 uh their total project costs which
1:58:53 included engineering and construction
1:58:55 management and construction and all the
1:58:58 other Associated costs with the project
1:59:02 the budget and connecting Washington I
1:59:04 think was 71.3 so this would make it a $
1:59:07 74.3 million project
1:59:14 okay was it on that question but I um
1:59:18 just I guess as a comment it seems that
1:59:20 if the it seems like a small percent on
1:59:23 the overall but it's also what we're
1:59:25 being advised is what they need to have
1:59:29 on the overall it's a small percent yeah
1:59:31 but when you take a look at it and you
1:59:35 take out all the soft cost engineering
1:59:38 and things like that and you come down
1:59:39 just to a Construction contract it
1:59:41 becomes a larger percent and so they're
1:59:43 looking for that larger percent against
1:59:45 the Construction contract is what
1:59:46 they're looking for because that's where
1:59:48 the the margin is the risk is it's on
1:59:52 the Construction
1:59:53 contract
1:59:57 um and then I have last question um so
2:00:01 one of the things that we'll be
2:00:02 discussing and maybe we can hold this
2:00:04 for the discussion later but one of the
2:00:06 things that we're discussing later is
2:00:08 about if this would go back to committee
2:00:09 or if this would
2:00:11 go um to the full Council and so I
2:00:13 wondered from the committee's
2:00:15 perspective what the pros and cons would
2:00:17 be doing that I have that as one of your
2:00:19 discussion questions as well so do you
2:00:21 want the that's fine we can discuss
2:00:23 would you like to get the information on
2:00:24 what the pros and cons would be now and
2:00:26 then save the council
2:00:27 conversation because they can definitely
2:00:29 talk about the pros and
2:00:32 cons sure if that's the well if that's
2:00:35 the way the conversation is yeah I would
2:00:38 say that's not necessarily a question
2:00:39 for the finance director it's a question
2:00:41 for the council it's it's your
2:00:42 perogative as to whether or not you
2:00:44 would like the next conversation to be
2:00:46 with the full or to go back to ad hoc I
2:00:49 think Vick is trying to determine um
2:00:53 what's the difference between those two
2:00:55 choices do we have an opinion on that I
2:00:59 think it still depends on uh other
2:01:01 comments that council members might make
2:01:03 about their comfort level with the
2:01:05 recommendations okay so it depends on
2:01:08 where we are tonight done can
2:01:12 question I actually I'd like to try to
2:01:14 answer that I mean my take is the the
2:01:18 the baby is born
2:01:19 at this point you know there is a draft
2:01:21 that is now out there I I I mean i'
2:01:24 never say never but I I don't see this
2:01:26 going back to ad hoc Finance at this
2:01:28 point ad hoc Finance was about looking
2:01:30 at the financial models particularly the
2:01:33 a bunch of work that occurred last year
2:01:34 and continuing that on this year now we
2:01:36 do have a draft in front of us and and I
2:01:40 I I can't imagine a scenario where we
2:01:42 would then take it back to ad hoc
2:01:43 Finance unless the council um loved the
2:01:46 idea of Transportation but hated this
2:01:48 particular draft and told us to go back
2:01:51 and and start over from
2:01:53 scratch okay thank you for that that's
2:01:55 the kind of information I was looking
2:01:58 for other
2:02:01 questions council member
2:02:03 Walsh so I I feel like there are two
2:02:06 buckets of conversation and question
2:02:08 here so I'll start with the finance um
2:02:11 did we consider an increase to bno tax
2:02:16 or anything that would focus on business
2:02:19 rather than
2:02:22 consumer I'll answer that that was part
2:02:25 of the very early conversation uh
2:02:27 Council had um probably two three years
2:02:31 ago uh when we looked at all funding
2:02:33 sources before uh Council took action on
2:02:36 the transportation benefit District so
2:02:38 that was discussed it was not an option
2:02:40 that um Council pursued beyond that
2:02:44 though
2:02:46 similarly any sense of looking at
2:02:49 developer impact fees or we've always
2:02:51 had this conversation of growth pays for
2:02:53 growth um and I understand there's some
2:02:56 limitations on that on the percentage
2:02:58 that they can um fund of past needs is
2:03:03 there any sense of going to that as a
2:03:06 source that Source will be utilized for
2:03:08 some of these projects depending on
2:03:10 whether or not they're eligible for uh
2:03:13 those mitigation impact fees so this is
2:03:16 the remaining unfunded cor okay
2:03:19 fantastic um just want to add a
2:03:21 clarification on that too so the growth
2:03:23 impact fees can be used where capacity
2:03:25 is added so if projects are not adding
2:03:29 capacity that would qualify as being
2:03:31 related to that development then the
2:03:32 fees are not used so they if we have a a
2:03:36 deficit in our system like a road that
2:03:39 maybe we should have fixed a long time
2:03:40 ago or found a funding source for impact
2:03:44 fees are not a great resource for that
2:03:46 yeah if it's not a
2:03:47 capacity project so on the project side
2:03:53 of things
2:03:55 ch um if I'm looking back at our most
2:03:59 recent Capital Improvement plan um for
2:04:03 the 2018 20122 CIP the unfunded project
2:04:07 list there shows 60
2:04:12 million in unfunded portion so I'm
2:04:16 wondering how we get from the 60 to 113
2:04:20 I know you said something about oh you
2:04:21 know projects change that seems like a
2:04:25 lot of change to me am I missing
2:04:27 something the two major influences there
2:04:31 on that differential are the two Newport
2:04:35 projects I there's been since those
2:04:38 estimates were done economy has
2:04:41 changed environmental complexities in
2:04:44 design you find out more information
2:04:46 about how much RightWay is needed uh we
2:04:49 went through conceptual plan
2:04:50 developments uh that hadn't been fleshed
2:04:53 out completely at the time in which a
2:04:55 conceptual cost estimate had been done
2:04:58 uh when you get more into the detail you
2:05:00 get a little bit more refined and
2:05:02 unfortunately the refinements increase
2:05:04 those project costs
2:05:07 dramatically so that leaves me with a
2:05:10 lot of uncertainty around this idea of
2:05:13 saying we're taking in funding is there
2:05:18 any portion of this remaining that has
2:05:23 that level of
2:05:26 uncertainty when you say of this list of
2:05:30 the remaining list that's the
2:05:33 38.8 no those projects are pretty well
2:05:36 defined like the pro like the southeast
2:05:38 43rd signal that's 95 99% design ready
2:05:43 to go uh
2:05:47 we're the let's see what are the other
2:05:49 projects on the list the pinch point is
2:05:52 pretty well defined uh the expanded
2:05:55 project uh conceptually we believe we
2:05:57 have a pretty good estimate on that uh
2:06:00 while it's still conceptual there's
2:06:02 caveats because we haven't done all the
2:06:04 specific Environmental Studies but we
2:06:06 feel like we're pretty close on that uh
2:06:09 I'd say no there's probably no more
2:06:11 dramatic ones like those two
2:06:14 projects okay um I know that there's
2:06:17 about 7 million
2:06:19 on um Park Acquisitions and so obviously
2:06:24 land cost changes quite a bit um do we
2:06:28 feel like there's risk of that
2:06:31 ballooning uh I wouldn't be the one to
2:06:34 answer that question on Parks but it's
2:06:36 going to be subject to real estate
2:06:38 market yeah that was a pretty good
2:06:41 answer I I think uh since we don't have
2:06:44 necessarily exact Parcels that make up
2:06:48 that 7 million it we will scale to that
2:06:52 um and that's the way the city has
2:06:54 pursued uh open space acquisition the
2:06:56 past we've sort of established criteria
2:06:59 do we want to um uh acquire flood plane
2:07:03 for management repairing habitat areas
2:07:07 steep slopes etc etc and uh then we look
2:07:11 at the parcels that fit that criteria
2:07:13 and as they become available as we're
2:07:16 able to negotiate and as we have funds
2:07:19 available then uh we try to make all
2:07:21 those pieces fit together yeah there's a
2:07:22 little bit less risk on the perk side
2:07:25 because if we run out of funding we just
2:07:27 don't purchase a portion we aren't
2:07:29 having to stop an entire project that
2:07:32 doesn't have
2:07:33 funding um that's also a reason why you
2:07:36 use conservative Revenue estimates that
2:07:39 um you probably want in a final package
2:07:42 to build in some contingency for
2:07:45 unforeseen so um that's an added element
2:07:49 um for
2:07:50 consideration so that was another
2:07:52 question I was going to come up does
2:07:54 that 1.2 that you've kind of built in
2:07:57 there feel like
2:08:00 enough
2:08:03 um that some follow-up work that we
2:08:05 would need to do and again by going with
2:08:08 a conservative Revenue estimate you know
2:08:11 there there theoretically should be some
2:08:13 Flex in there but that that would be
2:08:16 that you know we this was being
2:08:17 presented to the committee and now to
2:08:19 the council as as a ballpark of what a
2:08:24 scenario might look like um from my
2:08:28 perspective if the council wants to
2:08:30 pursue this we've got more due diligence
2:08:32 to do to make sure that we are putting
2:08:35 forward a package including depending on
2:08:38 when we would go to ballot looking again
2:08:41 at the timing of the the Investments
2:08:44 because what we're basing this on was
2:08:47 timing that was established lished last
2:08:49 August if there was a desire to pursue
2:08:52 these in 2019 um most of these we are
2:08:55 likely not going to be able to pursue in
2:08:57 2019 so we're going to have to push all
2:08:59 of that out time that with when the
2:09:01 revenue would come in um refine the
2:09:04 estimates you know one risk of pushing
2:09:06 things out is you know if the economy
2:09:08 contracts maybe costs come down but if
2:09:11 there's strength in the economy those
2:09:12 costs go up and that's that's an
2:09:14 inherent problem for you know anytime
2:09:17 you are doing funding of capital
2:09:20 projects yeah yeah
2:09:24 um man I had a question but I was so
2:09:27 into what you were saying Beth counc bu
2:09:30 actually want to respond a little bit
2:09:32 and maybe that'll give you the time to
2:09:33 think about what your question was um uh
2:09:35 and I want to add on that question of
2:09:37 timing right so right now we're saying
2:09:40 of a potential $40 million that we think
2:09:44 with this with this funding uh uh set of
2:09:47 mechanisms
2:09:49 uh you would have if you did seven for
2:09:51 Parks you would have 14 available from
2:09:53 Council mtic Bond Authority essentially
2:09:56 a soon as we want um but then the other
2:09:58 26 would come from that TBD which would
2:10:01 be whenever we got around to presenting
2:10:04 that to the public um for potential
2:10:07 authorization right so there's also this
2:10:09 timing of you couldn't do more than 14
2:10:12 million of it until you did that TBD so
2:10:15 there's sort of a there's a potential
2:10:17 phased approach on on a first round of
2:10:20 things that that could be done sooner um
2:10:23 before going to the public for the
2:10:27 TVD did you remember your question okay
2:10:31 it's in there I'll come back to you uh
2:10:33 Deputy council
2:10:35 president thank you I I think I've got a
2:10:38 question for Sheldon and uh some of my
2:10:40 questions have been answered through uh
2:10:43 the great questions coming from my
2:10:44 fellow council members but to follow up
2:10:47 a little bit on on just um the risk um I
2:10:52 wanted to talk a little bit about um the
2:10:55 funding through right away for Newport
2:10:59 and those additional amounts uh that
2:11:01 would be left out there what what I know
2:11:05 that going with option number three
2:11:07 seems to make really good sense uh in
2:11:10 terms of not losing any not having
2:11:14 sunken costs and and uh being able to
2:11:17 move forward with Newport both pieces of
2:11:20 Newport and going to the rideway on
2:11:23 option number three but what are the can
2:11:26 you speak a little bit to what remaining
2:11:29 risk would be there uh with option
2:11:33 number three we're still having these
2:11:35 big chunks um set aside that still need
2:11:38 to be funded and and those amounts could
2:11:42 potentially go up I'm assuming so I just
2:11:45 so wanted to know more thank you so over
2:11:47 time yes gu the uh just inflation and so
2:11:51 forth will raise your construction cost
2:11:55 uh depends on the economy it could go up
2:11:57 could go down uh we saw in the 2008 2010
2:12:01 time frame construction costs were going
2:12:03 down dramatically because the
2:12:05 contractors were very hungry it some of
2:12:08 it depends upon that but just on an
2:12:10 average basis you would expect the cost
2:12:12 to go up so that's one risk a second uh
2:12:16 risk that we think is somewhat mitigated
2:12:18 is is that by preserving your federal
2:12:20 funding going through your phases uh you
2:12:23 actually become a stronger applicant and
2:12:26 competitor for Grants uh both federal
2:12:29 and state money and so providing the
2:12:32 opportunity to go after other funds uh
2:12:36 and then maybe splitting the projects up
2:12:38 and phasing them in into smaller chunks
2:12:41 after you've got your RightWay done and
2:12:42 so forth enhances your opportunity for
2:12:45 getting grants and outside funding and
2:12:47 then as development comes in they pay
2:12:50 their impact fees so it it all helps
2:12:52 start to bring that funding package
2:12:54 together uh and so it's buying the city
2:12:58 time to mitigate those risks that are
2:13:00 associated with those large construction
2:13:04 costs City administrator would like to
2:13:06 add some comments I also like to add
2:13:09 that we're going through an exercise
2:13:11 right now to um look at possible cost
2:13:14 savings on the project so value
2:13:16 engineering uh work has been underway
2:13:19 for at least one segment um of this uh
2:13:23 these two Newport projects and uh we
2:13:26 will eventually be bringing back that
2:13:29 information to the council um and
2:13:31 possibly um as well to community if we
2:13:34 think that there are good viable options
2:13:38 there okay uh Lindsay remembered great
2:13:44 um we've kind of merked the sales tax at
2:13:49 2% is there an option underneath that
2:13:53 amount that does not require us to go to
2:13:56 voters um I believe whatever increase
2:13:59 you would impose requires a voter
2:14:02 approval but uh there are uh
2:14:05 jurisdictions um in King County that
2:14:08 have gone to the
2:14:10 0.1% um city of Seattle is one of them
2:14:14 and the other one
2:14:16 is North Ben no sorry um Enumclaw has
2:14:24 gone to the0 one so their sales tax rate
2:14:26 instead of 10% it's
2:14:28 10.1% uh the other two cities in uh King
2:14:32 County that have implemented have gone
2:14:33 to 0 2% um and I don't know about the
2:14:37 rest of the state of Washington but King
2:14:39 County is obviously um our near neighbor
2:14:42 so that's that's a a mar a a mark for
2:14:45 you to
2:14:46 consider
2:14:48 council member Goodman thank you uh Beth
2:14:52 the sticking with the sales tax topic is
2:14:54 there any
2:14:56 um this we got an email today also with
2:14:59 a question um from somebody in the um in
2:15:01 the public who wanted to know if we've
2:15:04 done any analysis or have any way to
2:15:06 know what kind of an impact an increase
2:15:08 in the sales tax would have on First on
2:15:11 businesses um you know if somebody might
2:15:14 stay away from isqua um because of the
2:15:17 increase and then second of all um there
2:15:20 would be analysis on potentially the
2:15:23 impact to um businesses and then also
2:15:25 that would potentially affect the sales
2:15:29 tax how much we get is there any way to
2:15:32 know like maybe
2:15:35 that we have not done that analysis um
2:15:39 to do that kind of analysis I don't feel
2:15:41 like I've got the capability of doing
2:15:42 that analysis so but you know there are
2:15:44 people that that could do that that
2:15:46 analysis if that was a desire desire um
2:15:49 of uh the council um I will also add
2:15:53 it's a little bit different but um maybe
2:15:56 something to think about um Seattle
2:15:59 implemented the sweetened beverage tax
2:16:02 and um there was thought that oh people
2:16:05 will go buy their their soda somewhere
2:16:08 else um Seattle is seeing way more
2:16:11 revenue from that Source than they
2:16:13 anticipated so um you know is it's not
2:16:19 exactly the same but that that's an
2:16:21 example of where a tax was imposed that
2:16:24 it could have influenced people's
2:16:26 shopping decisions but it didn't and you
2:16:30 know ultimately in in many
2:16:32 cases people are influenced by
2:16:35 convenience and um and as council member
2:16:39 winterstein uh pointed out the um the
2:16:43 relative
2:16:44 impact
2:16:46 um um again acknowledging that there is
2:16:49 a regressive quality to this tax so you
2:16:52 know it it will impact some more than
2:16:54 others but um for um most people it it
2:17:01 it wouldn't be significant again for
2:17:04 lower income people people on a fixed
2:17:06 income yes it can make a difference or
2:17:08 potentially influence um people when
2:17:10 they make bigger purchases if you just
2:17:12 want to save a few hundred dollars on a
2:17:15 large purchase you might go somewhere
2:17:17 else which would impact a business too
2:17:20 um so then I have a question for
2:17:27 Sheldon this is
2:17:29 on exhibit a the list of
2:17:33 seven
2:17:35 um I read the package so I hope I didn't
2:17:40 miss something here
2:17:42 um we we talk mostly if not exclusively
2:17:46 about the Newport Way project and the
2:17:49 pinch Point um can you quickly go down
2:17:52 this list of seven and tell
2:17:55 me as at the end of
2:17:58 2022 um where we
2:18:02 would um and with his 1135 million what
2:18:06 we would expect to have accomplished
2:18:07 with these projects so for example um
2:18:11 the Providence Point signal what does
2:18:13 8.1 get million get
2:18:16 us that's the whole project is that just
2:18:19 that's the entire project okay it
2:18:21 finishes it and then Newport weight
2:18:25 54900 I think what you've talked about
2:18:28 tonight is RightWay acquisition but not
2:18:30 construction correct okay then can for
2:18:33 both Newport ways okay Central Park
2:18:36 signal uh that would take a design
2:18:39 through
2:18:40 construction and Northwest Gilman
2:18:42 concept development uh that would be the
2:18:44 concept development and uh going through
2:18:47 just having a concept for it so we know
2:18:49 what G's going to look like so when
2:18:51 development comes in they know what the
2:18:52 frontage improvements are okay and the
2:18:54 12th and sr900
2:18:56 intersection uh this is the project that
2:18:59 is in the Costco development agreement
2:19:03 uh and that would bring us through
2:19:06 construction
2:19:08 okay thank you any other
2:19:13 questions president Mar's Follow by
2:19:15 cember winstein yeah so I have a
2:19:17 question for Sheldon and it has to do
2:19:19 with um you know this is a subset of the
2:19:23 hund whatever $133,000 worth of um
2:19:26 transportation that we identified so I
2:19:28 just want to understand um there was a
2:19:31 there sort
2:19:33 of what comment around uh the the uh
2:19:38 Newport west of 900 out to 54 um we have
2:19:42 done a bunch of work already right like
2:19:44 I remember back in 2003 2004 when I
2:19:47 first got here I used to Bicycle home
2:19:49 from Seattle and that stretch of Newport
2:19:52 was like pitch black and like a 1 foot
2:19:56 to 6 in wide shoulder on each side right
2:20:00 so we've we've done a lot since then
2:20:03 right we haven't done all this obviously
2:20:06 but how much have we invested in
2:20:08 improvements to uh Newport west of 900
2:20:12 you're you're correct uh there was
2:20:14 substantial investment I believe in 2007
2:20:18 uh where the north
2:20:22 northeasterly uh shoulder was widen to
2:20:25 the current uh 10 to 12T wide path uh
2:20:29 with curb stops to separate traffic from
2:20:32 the uh from The Pedestrian pathway on
2:20:35 the north side of the road as well as
2:20:38 the roadway was restriped to provide
2:20:40 narrower travel Lanes but then provide a
2:20:43 small shoulder area where the more
2:20:46 experienced cyclists can use uh so there
2:20:49 was and that extended from
2:20:52 sr900 all the way to the Lakemont to the
2:20:55 city limits on the western End of the
2:20:58 Road about 2 and a half miles worth of
2:21:00 work and then there was over the section
2:21:03 from approximately Oak Crest to 900
2:21:08 there were some pedestrian scale
2:21:09 lighting that was also put in with the
2:21:11 trail uh at that point you know roughly
2:21:14 how much that was uh that's section uh
2:21:18 was done by
2:21:20 developer I'm guessing that section was
2:21:22 around a million dollars on the
2:21:23 developer dime and then the rest of it
2:21:25 from there to the Western City Limits
2:21:27 was roughly 3/4 of a million dollars so
2:21:30 overall you know between the developer
2:21:32 and the city I.E the city's requirement
2:21:35 of the
2:21:35 developer uh roughly 1 and 3/4 million
2:21:40 thank you Deputy C oh sorry uh council
2:21:45 member winterstein followed by Deputy
2:21:46 Council president ba thank you Sheldon
2:21:49 we're going to be
2:21:50 discussing the potential funding uh
2:21:53 forwarding some money or committing some
2:21:55 money to wash dot at a future meeting
2:21:57 that's correct there's an agenda bill
2:21:59 being drafted and it's for the March
2:22:02 18th uh regular business item on Council
2:22:05 agenda okay and so this is really this I
2:22:09 going to make a request you know for
2:22:11 that when it comes forward because I
2:22:13 don't know that that's coming through a
2:22:14 committee before then
2:22:17 no it's not the ad hoc committee was
2:22:21 recommending our early consideration for
2:22:23 funding that uh as part of this whole
2:22:27 big conversation uh but you're correct
2:22:29 it's not going to be referred to
2:22:31 committee because of the time frame in
2:22:33 which we need to have a response back to
2:22:35 wash doot okay so recalling um the
2:22:38 representative from uh wash do that was
2:22:40 here like you remind reminded us Miss
2:22:42 George and her present George George yes
2:22:46 and the the history of that project
2:22:49 um um I I'm I'm still struggling with
2:22:52 that quite a bit but I think we did
2:22:53 learn so I'm going to make one point to
2:22:55 share with what happened at ad hoc then
2:22:57 have a request or question in the form
2:22:59 of a question for you for when we do get
2:23:01 to this um you told us
2:23:05 at the uh when we met
2:23:09 that as currently put together this
2:23:12 package that was going to go out for
2:23:14 advertisement on March 18th that that
2:23:18 picture that you showed with the
2:23:20 retaining wall moved over a sound wall
2:23:23 up there some more space for us that
2:23:25 that's that's in that project and if
2:23:28 they get a single bit if if there's no
2:23:30 new money from us and they get a single
2:23:33 bid that comes in underneath the budget
2:23:35 for that then that project is going to
2:23:37 get built and we're going to get our
2:23:39 space that is correct right so so it's
2:23:43 completely possible that we could get
2:23:44 what we have we want without putting any
2:23:47 money in however we've been warned that
2:23:50 due to some risk and some other
2:23:51 uncertainties and this has been a funny
2:23:53 project it was going to be Lan hardening
2:23:55 and now it's auxiliary lanes and it's
2:23:56 quite different uh I mean similar but
2:23:59 different but but it is just lanes and
2:24:02 it's not rocket science it's not like
2:24:04 we're building pontoons on Lake
2:24:05 Washington it's the idea that that this
2:24:08 thing could be so off um is is kind of
2:24:11 interesting to me and and but the if we
2:24:14 put $3 million in or any amount in and
2:24:20 the whatever the bid comes in what and
2:24:23 then what the project actually costs
2:24:25 it's Poss we will get we'll get what we
2:24:28 want we could potentially get our uh not
2:24:31 actually pay anything because and so if
2:24:34 the construction cost I'm going to make
2:24:36 up some numbers it was if if it was 50
2:24:38 and we put three toward that it was 53
2:24:40 but they actually did it for 49 we're
2:24:42 not paying anything is that correct
2:24:44 that's correct it it's it's a commitment
2:24:46 of up to three million uh is what watch
2:24:49 Dot's asking for right if they can do it
2:24:52 within their budget uh and not need any
2:24:56 of our three then we would spend zero
2:24:59 yeah so it's essentially a contingency
2:25:01 fund yes it really it really is okay so
2:25:04 I I think that's really important is
2:25:06 that that's why I feel it's kind of
2:25:08 funny to say that that's three is part
2:25:10 of the 5.6 I don't quite understand that
2:25:13 because um because we can get that with
2:25:15 paying nothing so anyway um so I think
2:25:18 that's very important is and we're going
2:25:19 to talk about that more at a later one
2:25:21 so it's potentially that we could get
2:25:23 what we want out of that from wash do
2:25:24 and not pay anything I think that's
2:25:26 important and even if we commit the sum
2:25:28 number up to three million we could
2:25:30 still pay zero on that because it came
2:25:33 within a at a different number so that I
2:25:35 think that's very important for
2:25:36 everybody then my request would be for
2:25:38 you and we consider this again is is um
2:25:42 it's I know that's about to go out to
2:25:44 advertisement and this idea that and
2:25:46 Engineers estimates across the board are
2:25:48 coming you know they're coming in 10 to
2:25:53 40% above I mean this this idea wash dot
2:25:58 advertisements and and they put numbers
2:26:01 out there and they're pretty sure that
2:26:04 numbers are going to come in 10 to 20
2:26:06 40% higher that I'm I'm struggling that
2:26:10 just doesn't sound credible to me so so
2:26:12 my qu request for you is I'd like a
2:26:14 little bit more some actual about
2:26:17 projects and if that could be collected
2:26:20 about you know what the ask was in a
2:26:22 wash outt project what the bids came in
2:26:24 at or related to this Paul or related to
2:26:27 the bill that's coming on March yeah
2:26:30 yeah this is an ADV this is a question
2:26:31 for that bill that's coming in later in
2:26:33 in two weeks that we'll see is is it
2:26:35 would be like because that pertains to
2:26:38 this whole package here I think because
2:26:41 it's this project or this project is on
2:26:42 here it's related but that would be a
2:26:44 request I have for that meeting I'd like
2:26:45 to get a little bit more more than just
2:26:48 hey projects are coming in high and we
2:26:49 think there's some risk um I think some
2:26:52 actual project performance on the
2:26:55 asks what they were advertised in and
2:26:57 then what was actually uh what they
2:26:59 actually came in at would be very
2:27:02 helpful that possible yeah okay that is
2:27:06 um questions oh Mariah go
2:27:10 ahead thank you so I um back to back to
2:27:14 the New Port uh the two sections Newport
2:27:17 I'm curious if um if the um ad hoc
2:27:22 committee talked about uh any other
2:27:25 option if if the conversation stopped at
2:27:30 uh the design and right away or was
2:27:32 there so bear with my non- technical
2:27:35 non-engineering uh question here but was
2:27:39 there another logical step beyond that
2:27:43 where we didn't get all the way through
2:27:45 full funding but but there you know
2:27:48 maybe we went to uh 50 million instead
2:27:51 of 38 million was was there a
2:27:53 conversation that went beyond uh the
2:27:55 design and RightWay another
2:27:58 incremental uh
2:28:01 step I think that the answer to that
2:28:04 question is better coming from the
2:28:05 finance director because I think it has
2:28:07 to deal with the limited resources of
2:28:10 the ability to service debt so I'm going
2:28:12 to let Beth respond to that one it
2:28:15 wasn't a technical question
2:28:21 way to punt there
2:28:27 um I I I would agree with Sheldon and
2:28:30 certainly committee members feel free to
2:28:33 to chime in that it was more of the
2:28:36 limitation on what the revenue sources
2:28:39 were now um certainly the committee or
2:28:42 the council could say uh if we you know
2:28:46 found or let's say we didn't have to
2:28:48 spend the 3 million on the pinch Point
2:28:52 could you put that towards one of the
2:28:54 Newport projects you know that is a
2:28:56 discussion that could be had um but I
2:28:59 would say maybe back to Sheldon of you
2:29:02 know when you've got uh you know a $50
2:29:05 million construction project does you
2:29:07 know does something on the margins like
2:29:09 that make a difference of you know can
2:29:12 you get partway through construction
2:29:14 that then becomes a sheld question um
2:29:18 but really I think in the committee
2:29:19 discussions it was more looking at how
2:29:22 do we scale what we're doing with the
2:29:25 revenues available to a logical sort of
2:29:29 point in each project also taking into
2:29:32 account the federal the federal rules
2:29:35 that Sheldon spoke of in terms of of
2:29:39 timing and what that affords Us in terms
2:29:41 of additional timing to to make these
2:29:43 later
2:29:45 Investments
2:29:47 UHC member council member
2:29:49 Stein so this this is clearly a Sheldon
2:29:52 question so one of one of the issues we
2:29:56 we wrestled with was the the investment
2:29:59 in Newport way to get to right of way
2:30:02 was so that we would not have to refund
2:30:04 grants that we had already received
2:30:06 What's the magnitude of the grants that
2:30:08 we would potentially have to
2:30:10 refund uh currently we have about $3.3
2:30:13 million which we've spent probably a
2:30:16 little over half of that uh to date uh
2:30:20 but we're still under contract with
2:30:21 Consultants to continue with the design
2:30:23 work which that money was allocated for
2:30:26 and we have uh an
2:30:29 additional 5.1 I believe the number was
2:30:33 uh that should be coming to us in 2019
2:30:36 and 20 uh that we can use towards uh
2:30:41 those projects if we stopped today all
2:30:43 the work on Newport how much would we
2:30:45 have to return
2:30:47 uh I I don't have the exact number in
2:30:50 front of me but I'd be guessing
2:30:52 somewhere around 2 million bucks great
2:30:54 thank you thank you council member
2:30:56 winstein I just wanted to follow up um
2:30:59 your question yes the short answer is
2:31:04 no go beyond we didn't go beyond that
2:31:07 okay there you go I needed that next
2:31:08 part of the
2:31:10 sentence um so let's focus a few more
2:31:13 questions it doesn't mean there are no
2:31:15 questions but I want to leave you enough
2:31:16 time to have your discussion amongst the
2:31:19 seven of you as to the questions that
2:31:21 are in the agenda Bill about do you
2:31:23 agree with what you see there is no
2:31:25 formal motion tonight but we are looking
2:31:27 for some Direction so council member
2:31:30 hunt um have another
2:31:32 question
2:31:34 sorry come back up so um it's about it's
2:31:38 about that we are putting forward the 3
2:31:42 million for the pinch point but then in
2:31:44 the recommendation it's actually 5.6
2:31:46 million and it might be that we end up
2:31:49 paying zero of that 5.6 of that
2:31:54 three no oh so we might 2.6 no matter
2:31:58 what you have
2:31:59 2.6 that you would have to come up with
2:32:04 the 3 million is depending on how much
2:32:08 wash dot needs out of the 3 million okay
2:32:10 um so I think because that one is uh has
2:32:17 contingency um on
2:32:19 another funding or on the bids Etc that
2:32:23 one for me it's it's always difficult
2:32:26 the way it's presented to understand so
2:32:29 I think that's just my request next time
2:32:31 is for the three the 2.6 is definite and
2:32:35 then the three is potential but three is
2:32:38 required for commitments at time coming
2:32:42 forward
2:32:44 um and oh and then I had um another
2:32:47 question which I think is for the
2:32:48 committee um possibly also for Sheldon
2:32:50 though which is about the Central Park
2:32:53 signal and why that is on this
2:32:56 particular list just because that's one
2:32:57 that um I don't think we've had as much
2:33:00 recent at least in my time on Council as
2:33:02 much conversation about that one and so
2:33:04 I just wondered from the why why that
2:33:07 one and if if there's a broader
2:33:09 conversation about why these specific
2:33:11 ones then that's fine but that one in
2:33:12 particular seems like we've had less
2:33:14 discussion less recent discussion about
2:33:16 it want to start with that one Sheldon
2:33:19 sure I can start with that one so that
2:33:21 project is in the capital plan and it's
2:33:25 shown to be debt financed and so it had
2:33:29 shown up in the 2019 budget uh to do
2:33:33 some predesigned study work and that
2:33:36 money is predicated on the revenues
2:33:39 coming from a dead issuance and so the
2:33:41 project in it up itself is unfunded
2:33:44 because it was expected to be 100% debt
2:33:48 issuance not sure that that really got
2:33:50 to the question okay okay I think the
2:33:52 question is um it it seems a bit of an
2:33:55 outlier and we haven't heard a lot of
2:33:59 um uh public comment about the this
2:34:03 particular thing we have in so many of
2:34:04 the others oh so um I cut you next I can
2:34:09 so uh couple reasons because I think I I
2:34:13 was one of the people who pushed this
2:34:14 one for for the ad hoc and two reasons
2:34:18 for me one is there had been a fair
2:34:20 amount of conversation about it and it
2:34:22 and it revolved a lot around safety
2:34:24 issues around Central Park and that
2:34:25 resonated with me as something that was
2:34:27 really important and I was trying to
2:34:28 figure out where you know and then there
2:34:31 was a certain amount of okay uh Tetris
2:34:34 in in if you will these sorts of things
2:34:36 fit within that budget that we were
2:34:38 looking at so but fundamentally I was
2:34:41 moved or I thought this one was
2:34:43 important because of the public safety
2:34:44 issues around it Cil president MZ sure
2:34:47 um um another response to that is there
2:34:51 there's two things about uh the items
2:34:54 that are on this list for me one is that
2:34:57 uh I think they all involve uh really
2:35:00 commitments that we have made at various
2:35:02 times to the community and honoring
2:35:04 those commitments but I think they also
2:35:06 all have had at various times really
2:35:08 really robust public engagement and this
2:35:11 particular item I remember I remember
2:35:13 really well because I was chair of
2:35:16 services and safety when last it got
2:35:18 discussed and I don't know if anybody
2:35:20 who's currently um on the de was with me
2:35:24 but let me tell you Highlands residents
2:35:27 uh gave as as the the I mean to to go
2:35:30 further back and have had a larger
2:35:32 public response in Services I have to go
2:35:35 back to the senior center I mean it was
2:35:36 it's it's really something that um the
2:35:38 public from the highlands told us was
2:35:41 super super important we just haven't
2:35:42 talked about it in a while council
2:35:45 member we're council member hunt just to
2:35:47 just to offer mine as well it it was
2:35:50 kind of
2:35:52 simple um a lot of work did go into
2:35:54 formuling formulating the capital plan
2:35:56 and I appreciate Lindy did noting that
2:35:59 you know in as published in
2:36:01 2017 these projects uh um and and that
2:36:05 60 does include some parks projects as
2:36:08 well but um along with three different
2:36:11 Parks projects these projects there's
2:36:13 there's one smaller one that's no longer
2:36:15 in this was the list that we said in our
2:36:17 overall Capital plan for transportation
2:36:19 that was not funded in this period from
2:36:21 19 through 22 so that it was that's why
2:36:25 that and all of them were in here they
2:36:27 were the starting point from our
2:36:28 original capital plan and and yes and
2:36:31 since we've started talking about these
2:36:34 as potential funding uh we haven't spent
2:36:37 nearly as much time on that one um I
2:36:40 personally felt because the investment
2:36:42 and the work that went into prioritize
2:36:44 and put it in the capital plan as it was
2:36:45 was was
2:36:48 justification council member H did you
2:36:50 want to follow up uh thank you for all
2:36:52 that context I think that um my ask if
2:36:55 this does this will return to council at
2:36:58 some form so my ask would be that the
2:37:01 different items be given more context
2:37:04 also because we don't have the
2:37:05 opportunity of reviewing the discussions
2:37:07 that were held in the ad hoc committee
2:37:10 um for the rationale for each project
2:37:13 because right now we have different
2:37:14 amount of information about the
2:37:16 different projects in the information
2:37:18 that's presented and they're all big let
2:37:20 me ask you a question on that so um you
2:37:24 what I'm hearing is you're not asking
2:37:26 necessarily for project rationale like
2:37:28 why do you want to do this work you're
2:37:30 asking why do you want to put it in this
2:37:32 bucket and fund it this way is your
2:37:34 question is that correct yes okay so
2:37:38 there's there's a bit there'll be the
2:37:39 bit of history in there but really if
2:37:41 I'm hearing you correctly you're just
2:37:43 wondering does it belong with the rest
2:37:44 of the list which is one of the
2:37:45 questions here as well tonight that we
2:37:48 have to talk about right and I and I Al
2:37:50 it's also a comment about the materials
2:37:52 that are presented here because there's
2:37:54 unequal distribution of context
2:37:56 information about the different items on
2:37:58 the list um and so in in the future to
2:38:01 have more information about all of the
2:38:04 items and the discussion around all of
2:38:07 the items why they they were in the list
2:38:09 be helpful council member Walsh I'll
2:38:12 second that idea just the way that this
2:38:14 agenda bill was pulled together with the
2:38:16 justification for where the projects
2:38:19 changed off of the CIP and then
2:38:23 basically going into it and going well
2:38:24 there's no conversation about these
2:38:26 other four things that are on the
2:38:29 unfunded list it it it seemed a little
2:38:32 bit odd going into that so I would
2:38:34 appreciate next time just looking at
2:38:38 that and presenting it a little bit
2:38:39 differently I think I saw council member
2:38:41 winterstein did you want to chime in on
2:38:43 this or no oh no nope okay and then a
2:38:46 question for the administration you're
2:38:47 hearing a request for some additional
2:38:50 information have you heard what you need
2:38:52 or do you have extra any additional
2:38:54 questions no I have what I need
2:38:58 okay no I don't think we need additional
2:39:02 information but I I you're still going
2:39:04 to pose questions in terms ofen got to
2:39:06 the question piece yet awesome
2:39:08 y okay so thank you for that and it's
2:39:12 not to say we won't have any more
2:39:13 questions because when you're talking
2:39:15 about these different items you know we
2:39:18 may need to you may need to ask for
2:39:20 additional information but I wanted to
2:39:21 move to some of the questions that were
2:39:23 in the agenda bill um and the first one
2:39:25 being looking for each of the seven of
2:39:28 you that wants to weigh in getting
2:39:31 feedback on the ad hoc long-term Finance
2:39:33 committee's recommended funding options
2:39:35 and the project list
2:39:37 both so we can start randomly or
2:39:43 voluntarily council member win yeah and
2:39:46 and as a member of that committee I did
2:39:48 was did want to have some opportunity to
2:39:49 share just a little bit more we heard a
2:39:51 lot from staff which was which I
2:39:53 appreciated it but we talked I think
2:39:55 there was more talk among the three of
2:39:57 us and we had a lot to do with the
2:39:59 formation of that and and and first I
2:40:02 want to say Beth I thought your summary
2:40:04 was pretty good and so I appreciated
2:40:06 that and yeah and yet in hindsight it's
2:40:08 easy to see there's some information
2:40:09 about some of those other projects that
2:40:11 could be there to flush it out but
2:40:13 overall I think it's an accurate summary
2:40:15 of our conversation and where we landed
2:40:16 on things and the only thing that really
2:40:19 hasn't been mentioned tonight um that I
2:40:22 wanted to bring up was was the Newport
2:40:24 Way projects um I originally wanted them
2:40:27 in especially the one U um um well both
2:40:31 of them but I also participated in a lot
2:40:34 of the public workshops related to the
2:40:36 conceptual design of Newport Way between
2:40:38 54th and 900 and that that is a part of
2:40:41 town that's gone and is currently going
2:40:43 through and continue to go through some
2:40:45 Chang change for a number of years still
2:40:47 and um it was very difficult for me to
2:40:52 um just join in consensus with the
2:40:54 others uh but uh it was really it was
2:40:57 completely cost driven um it's
2:41:00 inexpensive project and this idea that
2:41:03 we had um with this no new taxes option
2:41:07 you could really look at this and say
2:41:09 without raising any taxes we can and you
2:41:11 know and I did communicate in that
2:41:13 meeting as well to me the priority was
2:41:15 the the 43rd the Providence point
2:41:17 intersection and then money to do the
2:41:19 pinch Point there's like okay if we
2:41:21 raise new new taxes let's at least do
2:41:23 those and and we can kind of do that in
2:41:25 terms of because council member Mars
2:41:27 talked about sequencing because that's
2:41:29 kind of cash that's going to be cash
2:41:31 available to us that becomes available
2:41:33 well comes available um regardless of
2:41:36 whether or not we borrow anything just
2:41:37 because we'll be paying down other debt
2:41:40 so so it was difficult for me I'm very
2:41:42 sensitive to the changes on Newport way
2:41:46 um I'm very sensitive of the fact that
2:41:47 we got a major thoroughfare with ditches
2:41:50 and and and um what that represents for
2:41:53 safety but just also I think the design
2:41:55 of the segment between um uh between uh
2:42:00 Maple and sunset um while by itself not
2:42:04 going to um uh you know dramatically
2:42:08 change what the experience is driving
2:42:12 around town in combination with others
2:42:14 over time it's a ential uh and and U
2:42:18 also um I think just for especially
2:42:21 during certain times of day especially
2:42:22 during rush hour just the movement on
2:42:25 that street especially with cross
2:42:26 streets that that intersect that I mean
2:42:29 I really feel it's hard for me to
2:42:31 imagine that a future isqua would still
2:42:33 have those roads as they are it it's
2:42:34 just unimaginable but in this time frame
2:42:38 uh and um and um my I tethered my or my
2:42:44 ambition um to you know down a little
2:42:47 bit to you know come in line with these
2:42:49 because it really was it was the amount
2:42:51 of funding it was the total cost and I
2:42:54 and I didn't want to go to the property
2:42:57 well I'd rather the city uh in a very
2:43:00 minimalist way you think about it this
2:43:03 way um you know um uh do some projects
2:43:08 that are locally
2:43:09 important uh and do them right and do
2:43:13 them good and earn earn those the
2:43:16 citizens uh confidence in our ability
2:43:19 and our planning and our foresight um
2:43:21 before we would go back for a larger ask
2:43:23 for these also other critical projects
2:43:26 if I can sum up for council member
2:43:28 winterstein you like the project list
2:43:31 and you like the funding
2:43:33 mechanism next who wants to put their
2:43:36 hand up and go next council member
2:43:38 Goodman thank you uh
2:43:41 so um the this is a huge topic and um I
2:43:45 participated in the um the committee
2:43:48 last year um and so I know the I know
2:43:51 the starting point and so I know how
2:43:54 much work the committee has done to get
2:43:56 to this point and I appreciate that um I
2:43:58 think it's um very thoughtful
2:44:01 recommendations um and
2:44:06 the so I don't know um
2:44:11 about tonight necessarily supporting
2:44:14 Revenue strategies on the project list
2:44:16 um I have the same uh questions about um
2:44:20 needing more information about um the
2:44:22 projects more information in the agenda
2:44:24 Bell which is why I asked Sheldon the
2:44:26 questions about those projects that we
2:44:27 didn't talk about tonight um the the
2:44:31 question I have
2:44:33 is um
2:44:35 where this is a is this a first a first
2:44:38 read a first look at this so then what's
2:44:42 the public after this what what's the
2:44:45 public exposure to this and feedback
2:44:49 from the
2:44:50 public or we what do we does this go
2:44:53 somewhere else or is it so one of the
2:44:56 other questions is that I have is the
2:44:58 time frame returning with Revenue
2:45:00 estimates and an Implement
2:45:02 implementation plan looking for
2:45:03 directions so I can also add on here um
2:45:07 public
2:45:09 process and we can see Emily did you
2:45:12 want to give a comment on what that
2:45:14 might look like
2:45:16 I think there are sufferable options and
2:45:17 that's why we're trying to get feedback
2:45:19 we're trying to understand are you
2:45:21 feeling comfortable enough that you want
2:45:22 to take a next step and then we can uh
2:45:24 discuss what that might be um there are
2:45:28 numerous options if you
2:45:30 um I feel like it's very much dependent
2:45:34 on how quickly you actually want to be
2:45:37 able to construct these improvements and
2:45:39 we sort of have to back up from that
2:45:41 time um to look at when we would have uh
2:45:45 funding secured um when therefore we
2:45:49 would have to go to the people for a
2:45:52 vote etc etc
2:45:55 um so one possible Next Step would be to
2:46:00 bring back that information that you
2:46:02 have requested in addition to some
2:46:05 refined Revenue estimates um the um time
2:46:11 possible timelines beginning with what
2:46:14 we believe as staff might be the
2:46:18 earliest uh that we could be ready to
2:46:20 put something on the ballot um and then
2:46:24 uh you know we'd give you a a different
2:46:27 recommendation that's a little bit
2:46:28 further out um and so that would be an
2:46:32 opportunity if you were to keep that
2:46:34 with the whole body uh to have uh to
2:46:38 notice it in such a way that we could
2:46:39 encourage people to come and provide a
2:46:41 little bit of feedback um certainly if
2:46:44 you chose to then um move forward with
2:46:49 directing staff to develop ballot
2:46:52 language for example uh we could set up
2:46:56 um additional opportunities for public
2:46:59 input um so I think maybe that helps to
2:47:04 start to outline what next steps might
2:47:06 be and how you might engage the public
2:47:08 that we have not had additional
2:47:10 conversation with the committee um in
2:47:12 terms of having some sort of other
2:47:14 public look for
2:47:16 him okay that's helpful thank you so I
2:47:18 can I could Envision at the um at the
2:47:23 next meeting that we when we talk about
2:47:25 the $3 million um for wash do um
2:47:29 assuming that's what the council decides
2:47:31 it wants to wants to do to to consider
2:47:33 that that next meeting um I can see more
2:47:36 information coming from staff if there's
2:47:39 time to do that between now and then
2:47:40 with it or at some point with additional
2:47:43 recommendations um on
2:47:46 implementation and uh not presupposing
2:47:48 what the council would do but I can see
2:47:50 that coming along with that additional
2:47:53 information um and at that point I also
2:47:58 would like information on you mentioned
2:48:00 the ballot language potential ballot
2:48:02 language um when we did this before
2:48:07 there were some surprises that came
2:48:09 along with um how that actually gets to
2:48:11 the ballot and how that gets handled um
2:48:15 and so I think we probably have to talk
2:48:17 about that too
2:48:20 who how that
2:48:22 happens okay and I wanted to ask you a
2:48:24 question council member Goodman so
2:48:26 Sheldon um council member Goodman had
2:48:28 some questions on the projects and there
2:48:31 in her comments right now she said that
2:48:33 requires some follow-up information and
2:48:34 I'm maybe just forgetting is that all
2:48:36 clear what you were looking for or is it
2:48:39 information from somebody else no it it
2:48:41 is a thumbs up to the information that
2:48:44 um council member hunt was asking for
2:48:46 about and that just making sure it was
2:48:49 something else it's not different okay
2:48:51 great
2:48:53 thanks
2:48:55 next CC m r council member H so it was a
2:49:01 difficult um whittling down of
2:49:04 initiatives and I think Council May
2:49:07 winstein spoke to it um very well but in
2:49:10 the final analysis if we did the no tax
2:49:13 option um and went with 20-year funding
2:49:15 we had about $14 million that we could
2:49:18 invest and the way I kind of fat thumb
2:49:20 that and that's why I was asking about
2:49:22 how much money we would be giving back
2:49:23 on Newport that gave us enough money to
2:49:25 do 43rd Street um meet our obligations
2:49:29 under the Costco development agreement
2:49:30 at 12th Avenue and probably do the
2:49:32 Gilman con concept development and
2:49:35 that's it so from a perspective of do we
2:49:39 need additional Revenue funds it's
2:49:42 pretty clear to me that to make any kind
2:49:44 of me meaningful impact we needed to
2:49:46 find an additional fund source of
2:49:48 funding and we talked about a number of
2:49:51 different options and as a result of
2:49:54 those discussions the propert or the
2:49:56 sales tax um made the most sense to me
2:49:59 and we talked about that because it is a
2:50:01 cost sharing between those who live here
2:50:03 and those who visit us and uh do
2:50:05 business here and I thought that was a
2:50:08 good alignment
2:50:09 of the source of Revenue with the use of
2:50:13 the revenue and then finally in terms of
2:50:16 another matching idea was the idea of
2:50:19 using 20-year funding versus 10year
2:50:21 funding which allows us to um share the
2:50:25 cost burden between current residents
2:50:27 and future residents so um for all of
2:50:31 the difficulty in coming up with putting
2:50:32 this jigsaw puzzle together we came up
2:50:35 with a suite of initiatives that all
2:50:37 were things that the public had talked
2:50:39 about at some point in the last couple
2:50:41 years as being really important to them
2:50:44 um um it was something that we could
2:50:45 afford to do with using our current uh
2:50:49 debt instruments and it was something
2:50:51 that we could afford to do if we could
2:50:52 have find um just a little bit more
2:50:55 money which the sales tax provided so
2:50:58 from a um from a Tetris perspective I
2:51:01 think we put together the tetris pieces
2:51:03 in a way that made sense so um not
2:51:07 perfect by any stretch not everything
2:51:09 that everybody wanted but not a bad uh
2:51:12 package from my perspective can I give
2:51:14 you add just something on the project
2:51:16 list itself um did did I hear you
2:51:18 correctly saying that it the financing
2:51:20 option and the project list both
2:51:23 satisfactory to you
2:51:26 absolutely and I think Vicki or council
2:51:28 member hunt you had your hand up next
2:51:31 okay um so on the funding mechanism uh I
2:51:37 appreciate the work that the ad hoc
2:51:38 committee did and I think
2:51:42 the conceptually the idea of having a
2:51:45 funding source that's current and future
2:51:48 for these long-term um projects having
2:51:52 the debt that will be funded by Future
2:51:54 residents who will be benefiting from
2:51:56 these long-term Transportation
2:51:58 improvements I think that that made
2:52:00 sense to me also that people from
2:52:02 outside of the city that are using our
2:52:04 transportation system and potentially
2:52:06 buying things in our city would be also
2:52:08 funding these Transportation
2:52:09 improvements made sense to me so I think
2:52:12 that funding system does make sense
2:52:15 um I understand that it would
2:52:18 be uh difficult I think to look at other
2:52:22 cases where the the impact has been
2:52:25 where they have changed the sales tax
2:52:27 but um like council member Goodman was
2:52:29 asking about that would be of that would
2:52:33 be informative to me if there was any
2:52:35 information about if it affects behavior
2:52:38 of consumers in terms of how much people
2:52:40 are actually buying in our city um and
2:52:43 then if there are other cities that have
2:52:45 gone through this process if there's
2:52:46 some sort of comparison information that
2:52:48 we could get that would be helpful um
2:52:51 and if not I can also be looking for
2:52:53 that myself um but I think that
2:52:56 information about how it affects
2:52:57 businesses and also about how it might
2:52:59 affect consumer Behavior would be a
2:53:00 helpful piece to that but overall I
2:53:02 think that current and future consumers
2:53:06 um current and future people in isqua
2:53:08 and then also people outside of isqua
2:53:10 paying towards this that made sense as a
2:53:12 rationale for the sales tax then on the
2:53:15 projects list I will review the
2:53:16 information about the Central Park
2:53:18 signal from the services meetings when
2:53:22 that was in discussion I think it was
2:53:24 before I was on Council um and so I
2:53:28 think that uh some more of that context
2:53:31 would be helpful the other the other
2:53:33 piece though
2:53:35 um that we didn't discuss too much we
2:53:38 we've discussed the pinch point a lot
2:53:40 but there's a recommendation for the
2:53:42 pinch point the 5.6 and then there's the
2:53:45 recommendation for it says nine in one
2:53:48 place and then it says 9.4 in another
2:53:51 place in our information um I think it's
2:53:55 9.4 I think the first nine is the
2:53:57 estimate but that additional nine which
2:53:59 is bigger than the pinch Point as we've
2:54:01 always been referring to the pinch Point
2:54:03 um we haven't discussed nearly as much I
2:54:07 I was going bring that up when I got to
2:54:09 my comments on the on where we're at
2:54:11 okay you want me to do it
2:54:13 now you like to yeah I think it's super
2:54:16 important um I I don't think I don't
2:54:18 think there's any value to doing just
2:54:19 the pinch point we have many thousands
2:54:22 of residents who have no non-vehicle way
2:54:25 of getting into town at all and so I
2:54:27 think that they don't want the pincho
2:54:30 done they want a way to get into town
2:54:33 walking and bicycling and they have
2:54:34 given us such unbelievable ample uh uh
2:54:39 Testament to that and so I think that I
2:54:41 was I I pushed very hard to to expand
2:54:45 this one um to include the whole
2:54:47 solution um rather than just the pinch
2:54:49 point I don't think we would be getting
2:54:51 anything done I mean we would be you
2:54:53 know we would be piggybacking on some
2:54:55 wash dot activity great but it would
2:54:57 still be some distant point in the
2:54:58 future and they you know the only
2:55:00 neighborhood that's basically other than
2:55:02 with cars completely you know
2:55:04 discontiguous from the rest of town so
2:55:07 um that's why I think it's it's
2:55:08 important to if we're going to do
2:55:10 anything we should we should do it right
2:55:12 okay thank you for that um um I think I
2:55:16 think that those discussions that were
2:55:19 had in the adoc committee the rationale
2:55:21 behind those different pieces that can
2:55:24 be articulated more clearly in the
2:55:26 documentation of the project so that
2:55:29 that's um in the materials and uh also
2:55:34 if there's a cost um I would think that
2:55:36 there's probably doing these things at
2:55:39 the same time the pinch point and then
2:55:40 the extended area around the pinch point
2:55:42 that that that would make sense from a
2:55:45 construction point of view to do them at
2:55:46 once so also the rationale behind doing
2:55:49 these things in one go and what that 9.6
2:55:53 which is a big increase over the 5.6 or
2:55:56 9.4 sorry 9.4 in addition to the 5.6
2:56:01 um what that actually looks like because
2:56:05 we have been talking about the 5.6 for a
2:56:07 long time it sounds like it was
2:56:09 discussed in the ad hoc but um more
2:56:12 information about that 9.4 that is now
2:56:14 in addition to make that um
2:56:18 Improvement to to do the whole project
2:56:20 right as council member Marts put it I
2:56:23 think um and then um so yeah so on the
2:56:28 list I think I think I mostly touched on
2:56:32 the the concerns as far as just getting
2:56:35 more clear rationale for why these
2:56:36 specific ones were put forward um and
2:56:39 then some of them like Providence Point
2:56:41 signal I've been in conversations and
2:56:44 we've been in many recent conversations
2:56:46 about thank you um Deputy council
2:56:50 president
2:56:51 ba thank you uh so first of all I just
2:56:54 want to say I know that just for years
2:56:57 there there's so much that's gone into
2:57:00 this and I really appreciate uh the
2:57:02 committee's work uh to bring forward
2:57:05 this I I know it's not a not an easy
2:57:09 conversation and um first of all in
2:57:12 regard to the funding mechanism the
2:57:14 recommendations that have been made uh
2:57:16 focusing on the sales tax and the
2:57:19 20-year um length of time seem to make
2:57:22 sense to me uh so I I'm supportive in
2:57:26 regard of the what the committee has
2:57:29 talked about in terms of the funding
2:57:31 mechanism in regard to the list uh there
2:57:34 you know I'm seeing all of these and
2:57:38 having the context behind them and I
2:57:39 realize some of that you know we've
2:57:41 we've got a lot to more to put in uh to
2:57:44 the agenda Bill to give context to a lot
2:57:47 of these but we've had an opportunity to
2:57:50 really talk these through and and great
2:57:52 to see all of those in there um the uh
2:57:56 you've heard me talk at length about uh
2:57:58 the pinch Point uh in the past um being
2:58:02 able to uh con um expand that project so
2:58:06 we can actually put in uh what that
2:58:11 Community needs to be able to travel on
2:58:13 that road I think is is critically
2:58:15 important we've it's been complicated
2:58:18 because we've talked about the pinch
2:58:20 point and the shoulder hardening and and
2:58:23 and um being able to um work with wash
2:58:27 do and and be a part of that project and
2:58:29 get that right away but um in terms of
2:58:33 actually finishing the project that that
2:58:36 I think the commit the community would
2:58:38 be thinking um is the pinch point is so
2:58:42 people can actually have a place to to
2:58:44 safely walk and ride their bikes um from
2:58:47 those neighborhoods I think is really
2:58:49 important um so very supportive of of
2:58:52 seeing that there and very supportive of
2:58:55 a Providence Point and we've talked a
2:58:57 lot about um the the uh Southeast
2:59:01 43rd and the Central Park signal I was
2:59:04 on services and so I would Echo what TOA
2:59:07 had talked about that's just definitely
2:59:09 something that sticks out in my mind um
2:59:11 in terms of all the feedback um and the
2:59:14 uh Community engagement that we had
2:59:16 around that issue and the safety um
2:59:19 surrounding um you know being in the
2:59:22 park at night during soccer and and uh
2:59:25 or whatever sport is going on and being
2:59:27 able to have the kind of safety that we
2:59:28 need there and um uh so that Park
2:59:32 signalization the hard part for me and
2:59:34 it comes the question that I asked was
2:59:36 uh I I would Echo what council member
2:59:39 winterstein talked about in terms of
2:59:41 Newport um for me that that that's so
2:59:45 incredibly important that we are able to
2:59:48 move forward um with those projects and
2:59:51 some at some point get to completion and
2:59:54 and um that's why I'd asked the question
2:59:57 about whether there was yet another
2:59:59 logical point be beyond the right away
3:00:03 but within the confines of what we're
3:00:06 working uh
3:00:07 through um
3:00:10 I it's it's it's very difficult and and
3:00:13 I just want to make sure that we do all
3:00:15 that we can to get those projects to a
3:00:18 place where um as we talked about that
3:00:21 it puts us in a good place to be able to
3:00:23 get additional grants and funding so we
3:00:26 can continue to work on on getting new
3:00:29 portway both sections uh over the finish
3:00:33 line Thank you very helpful council
3:00:35 president Mars and then I still need to
3:00:37 hear from council member Walsh so um two
3:00:41 concepts on this first of all all
3:00:44 politics being the art of the possible
3:00:46 uh the voters would certainly I mean to
3:00:49 to do the hard fact is to do Newport
3:00:51 with our own money um as our finance
3:00:54 director has said would require a 30 to
3:00:56 40% increase in property tax and I think
3:00:59 we all know that there's no way that
3:01:00 voters would approve that um so that's
3:01:03 just where we're at I'm I'm really happy
3:01:06 that U the suite of improvements that we
3:01:09 have is 38 point something out of a
3:01:11 potential
3:01:12 40 um um you know the the other concept
3:01:15 is is disagree and commit so on December
3:01:18 18th of 2017 I voted against the
3:01:21 transportation benefit District the the
3:01:23 the district only passed 5 to2 uh
3:01:26 council member Ramos and I both voted
3:01:27 against it I think for the same reason
3:01:29 which is that um I hate regressive taxes
3:01:32 and we have the most regressive taxes um
3:01:35 west of the Rocky Mountains um in
3:01:37 Washington state and uh this will make
3:01:39 it a little bit more so but but I
3:01:43 believe in disagreeing and committing
3:01:45 and so uh you know the ad hoc finance
3:01:49 committee uh came up with a suite of
3:01:52 solutions that the three of us you know
3:01:54 there were things that each of the three
3:01:55 of us weren't super crazy about but we
3:01:58 got to Common Ground and I'm confident
3:02:00 that the seven of us will also come to
3:02:02 Common Ground And so uh I'm I'm willing
3:02:05 to live with the transportation benefit
3:02:06 District despite not being excited about
3:02:08 it so for that reason I am a yes on uh
3:02:11 to both of your questions
3:02:14 hey C member
3:02:17 Walsh so coming into this with trying to
3:02:21 get an understanding around our funding
3:02:23 sources and all of this is it's a lot um
3:02:27 I have to say I am a bit hesitant to go
3:02:31 to voters to ask for sales tax approval
3:02:36 for things that are not capacity
3:02:39 building
3:02:41 necessarily um I and I feel like that's
3:02:45 similar to the transportation Bond of
3:02:50 what was it
3:02:53 205 somewhere around there
3:02:56 um so I have I have concerns about that
3:02:59 particularly since several of the
3:03:02 projects are land acquisition for
3:03:05 Parks um or sensitive areas um and then
3:03:10 some things that are merely getting us
3:03:12 through design or right of acquis or
3:03:15 right of way acquisition and not
3:03:17 complete project so I do have some
3:03:21 concerns there that being said council
3:03:24 member winterstein conversation about
3:03:26 how much this actually costs the
3:03:29 individual has pushed me forward to the
3:03:33 point of being able to agree with the
3:03:36 idea of investigating this further and I
3:03:39 I think that is probably the right
3:03:41 direction to go I think we're going to
3:03:43 need to be very very very careful about
3:03:47 how it gets discussed with voters about
3:03:53 what this
3:03:54 represents so that it is not presented
3:03:56 as this is going to improve congestion
3:03:59 but rather these are quality of life
3:04:02 issues things like the Trader Joe's
3:04:07 roundabout things like that um project
3:04:10 list as well I'm on the project list
3:04:14 yeah I I I think in general those are
3:04:16 all things that need to be
3:04:20 um that we need to fund um I do have
3:04:23 similar concerns about the idea of again
3:04:26 funding right away um Acquisitions for
3:04:29 Newport without necessarily moving the
3:04:33 needle on the project particularly if we
3:04:35 have potentially a federal requirement
3:04:39 of what was it like 20 years of making
3:04:44 movement there so I I I have some
3:04:46 concerns there but generally I'm in okay
3:04:50 approval so I'm going to come back to
3:04:52 you Paul first I'm just going to I'll go
3:04:54 through a little summary everybody's
3:04:55 provided feedback on at least question
3:04:58 one yay it had lots of parts to it but
3:05:01 um project list and funding that came
3:05:03 out of ad hoc so thank you I think we've
3:05:05 heard um we've heard some good uh good
3:05:08 comments from you I'll also caveat that
3:05:11 with there is a information out
3:05:13 associated with those both on the
3:05:15 funding and both on the project list
3:05:17 there are two pieces in there they might
3:05:18 be a subset of project lists some of you
3:05:20 have commented on it but not all of you
3:05:23 um are you in agreement with the scope
3:05:27 that came out of or what are your
3:05:29 thoughts on the scope that came out
3:05:31 about the Newport Way projects and
3:05:32 Drawing the Line in the Sand at RightWay
3:05:34 acquisition one or two of you have
3:05:36 commented on it either if you have a
3:05:39 opinion you want to get out on the table
3:05:40 that's great if you're fine with where
3:05:42 they drew the line and you you don't
3:05:43 want to add anything in that's fine too
3:05:46 the other one is only one of you brought
3:05:48 it up scaled up Northwest samamish Road
3:05:51 um so one person brought it up and then
3:05:54 council president made a comment but is
3:05:56 there anybody else who wanted to weigh
3:05:57 in on that as well so those were two
3:05:59 things on the project list that were
3:06:01 brought up specifically and I didn't
3:06:02 hear from everybody on it uh Council
3:06:05 wiin Council Ray I'm not sure you I'm
3:06:08 not sure I know what you mean when you
3:06:09 say scaled up
3:06:11 um uh the project changing from the
3:06:14 original capital Improvement plan or the
3:06:16 current capital Improvement plan which
3:06:18 had funding for um pinch point something
3:06:22 to the full length of the project and
3:06:25 whether or not it's now included on this
3:06:27 list by the ad hoc and whether or not
3:06:29 that is
3:06:31 inappropriate i i i my understanding is
3:06:34 is something different still there is
3:06:37 the pinch point but on the CIP there was
3:06:39 actually a much larger segment of
3:06:41 Newport Northwest samamish road all the
3:06:44 way to near Timberline Park so what this
3:06:49 is this is kind of a in between there
3:06:52 and and um I at first at was just about
3:06:57 the pinch point but then I realized no
3:07:00 um segment the idea from 191st so if you
3:07:02 live in the south Lake samamish area and
3:07:05 you want to come East toward the city
3:07:08 that you're um by only starting at 191st
3:07:12 on the West End you have off New you
3:07:15 have off samamish road ways to travel
3:07:18 you can travel through that neighborhood
3:07:20 you can get to 191st you can get out
3:07:22 onto uh Northwest samamish Road and then
3:07:25 it was very important to me that we had
3:07:26 that um Lane all the way all the way to
3:07:29 the state park I didn't want to stop
3:07:30 short of that and so I so I'm in support
3:07:33 of that and that's what we discussed in
3:07:35 committee okay so when
3:07:38 uh councilman veran is asking for
3:07:41 project more project information that is
3:07:44 a great way of saying it so that's super
3:07:46 so maybe we don't need additional
3:07:47 comment on that the other uh piece then
3:07:50 was the Newport Way scope whether or not
3:07:53 that is the land in the sign land in
3:07:57 Line in the Sand drawn
3:07:58 correctly and some of you commented on
3:08:01 it and some of you didn't I'm not sure
3:08:03 if anybody wanted to add something in on
3:08:04 that I actually want to rewind to uh
3:08:07 what we lovingly call the pinch point
3:08:09 and I just like to stop calling it The
3:08:10 Pinch point because it's fairly meaning
3:08:13 can we call it South Cove non-motorized
3:08:15 connectivity sure thank you that's not
3:08:17 that hard thank you me in the pitch
3:08:19 point yeah
3:08:21 sure anyone else who wanted to comment
3:08:24 on um I think that was specifically
3:08:27 question two in the agenda bill was is
3:08:29 the council supportive of the ad hoc
3:08:31 long-term Finance committee's
3:08:32 recommended 38.8 million project list
3:08:34 including the recommended strategy for
3:08:36 the Newport Way projects has everybody
3:08:38 felt like they get on on the record with
3:08:40 that is there a way that we can pursue
3:08:43 this set um but still look for
3:08:48 ways to achieve that funding yes that
3:08:53 that would be my preference that doesn't
3:08:56 push that entirely off and say we're
3:08:58 going to wait for federal funding but
3:09:01 still says this is important to us we
3:09:04 recognize it's a big ask for right now
3:09:07 and we're not going to necessarily go
3:09:09 after property tax increase but gosh
3:09:12 darn what there are other options
3:09:15 there did you or Emily did you want to
3:09:17 add anything to
3:09:19 that or
3:09:21 Beth um one concept that perhaps we
3:09:26 could develop related
3:09:28 to um the revenue projections is you
3:09:34 know it's it's it's developing a package
3:09:38 that we've got confidence in the revenue
3:09:42 streams to support but recognizing that
3:09:46 there could be pluses and minuses
3:09:48 hopefully pluses not minuses cuz minuses
3:09:50 would be bad um one scenario we could
3:09:54 possibly look at would be to say if
3:09:57 revenues come in higher than what is
3:10:01 needed for that project list the next
3:10:04 thing would be to look at segments of
3:10:07 construction on the Newport projects and
3:10:12 that that could be a way of sort of
3:10:14 balancing how do you align Revenue
3:10:17 estimates with with um the known
3:10:20 uncertainty that that may be there so
3:10:22 sort of the next up list um may be a way
3:10:26 we could package
3:10:30 it um if the council is in agreement
3:10:33 there are some uh Next Step questions as
3:10:36 well about timing oh Paul did you want
3:10:38 to well actually it was timing I was
3:10:39 want okay yep we're not done with timing
3:10:42 um and so in the agenda Bill itself it
3:10:45 talks about some items that would come
3:10:47 back um follow-up steps for the
3:10:50 implementation plan would likely need to
3:10:52 include refined Revenue estimates
3:10:53 refined project schedule and plan for
3:10:55 placing the 2% sales tax on the ballot
3:10:58 including timelines which goes to some
3:11:00 of the exact things that you had
3:11:02 mentioned tonight you would need
3:11:04 additional information on um so looking
3:11:07 for direction on how quickly the council
3:11:10 would like to proceed with these steps
3:11:13 um thoughts on timing Council M winstein
3:11:17 so today is March 4th I think I heard
3:11:19 this evening that we would have to have
3:11:20 something completed by the early May for
3:11:23 in August and 60 days from now feels too
3:11:31 rushed thoughts from so so I think
3:11:33 giving the commun giving us but more
3:11:36 importantly the community more
3:11:38 opportunity and I would like to work
3:11:40 back from the date where any submitt for
3:11:43 a November election would be
3:11:46 required now that's without making any
3:11:49 assessment on which election is better
3:11:50 or not it's it's totally driven on on
3:11:54 just greater opportunity for uh citizen
3:11:56 input and participation do and council
3:11:59 president Merz you had your hand up so
3:12:01 th um so this is where get a little
3:12:03 murky because um you know I have a um I
3:12:07 was on the volunteers foral schools for
3:12:09 a long time which does the bonds and
3:12:10 levies for the school district and
3:12:13 typically what you have is you have you
3:12:16 know the the body that puts forward um
3:12:19 something like this and then you have a
3:12:20 body that's off on the outside that's
3:12:22 the people that want to see it happen
3:12:25 and they go off and sort of talk about
3:12:27 timing right and they go confer with
3:12:31 this that or the other wizard and come
3:12:33 back um and and I can tell you that a
3:12:37 lot of thought goes into the timing it
3:12:40 is not something that you go off and say
3:12:42 say okay in 2 weeks we're going to come
3:12:44 back with the proposal of when the
3:12:45 timing is so I don't know I would sort
3:12:48 of like to decouple a little bit um the
3:12:51 question of when we would put forward
3:12:53 something to the voters but like my
3:12:56 timeline is putting something to the
3:12:57 voters in 20120 like not even this year
3:13:01 that's twofold one is that I think you
3:13:03 need to take sufficient time to uh
3:13:06 explain what's being proposed to the
3:13:08 voters and and I want to make sure that
3:13:10 we do that um and the second is this
3:13:13 idea of um potentially getting uh a
3:13:16 project under our belt before we go to
3:13:17 the voters and I think that uh I think
3:13:21 there'd be a lot of value in doing that
3:13:23 um so for for both of those reasons I
3:13:26 think that we can come back and talk
3:13:28 about um what a uh uh TBD package would
3:13:34 look like uh without U making a decision
3:13:37 on the specific date um for a while and
3:13:41 now that this information is out there
3:13:43 members of the public could organize
3:13:45 themselves into a they so choose a
3:13:47 supportive group and and and go think
3:13:50 about the the timing issues because
3:13:52 there's the folks who are objectively in
3:13:55 favor of it um we can't sit here and
3:13:59 optimize it around making it pass that's
3:14:02 not our
3:14:04 job so um so all these comments are just
3:14:08 born from understanding how the district
3:14:09 gets to 70% when they when they put
3:14:11 these things in the public thank you and
3:14:14 I have a couple of questions for
3:14:16 administration so is there are there
3:14:20 um bookends on how this funding proposal
3:14:26 would work meaning is it possible that
3:14:29 in order to fund these projects in the
3:14:31 manner in the Years proposed that the
3:14:33 going up to the ballot could happen in
3:14:38 2020 well I think that's one of the
3:14:40 things we want to try to build is a
3:14:41 schedule of how to sequence the projects
3:14:43 and um as you many of you have spoken
3:14:47 about there's only so many projects that
3:14:48 we can do Under the existing debt the
3:14:51 the no tax um portion of this funding um
3:14:55 plan um so we would we would need to put
3:14:58 the projects in a certain sequence um I
3:15:01 think uh certainly the further out you
3:15:05 go on having an election um means you
3:15:08 need to um probably put some sort of
3:15:11 factor inflation Factor on projects as
3:15:14 well um uh we have not yet really done
3:15:18 that work we had some discussion and
3:15:20 committee about which projects we would
3:15:23 likely want to fund first and that
3:15:26 therefore could be accomplished within
3:15:29 the available $14 million that we would
3:15:33 um it's I I think there are a number of
3:15:38 factors that can be under consideration
3:15:40 when you think you're likely to be able
3:15:42 to get the engagement that you want to
3:15:44 do uh the information out to the public
3:15:48 so it's well understood um and uh carry
3:15:52 out um actual placing of the ballot
3:15:55 language conducting that
3:15:58 election uh having having Revenue as uh
3:16:02 Finance director alluded to um start to
3:16:05 acrw um so there's pluses and minuses
3:16:09 and lots of lots of Alternatives but I
3:16:11 think it's really it's really about how
3:16:13 much time the council feels like it will
3:16:15 need to um continue to discuss and then
3:16:19 how much time the council would like to
3:16:20 have in advance of that election great
3:16:24 um council member Goodman council member
3:16:26 Ray thank you um I think um we're
3:16:29 getting a little bit um of the C before
3:16:32 the horse so this is the first time
3:16:34 we've talked about it and we're um a
3:16:37 couple hours in with a discussion and
3:16:39 now we're down to talking about timing
3:16:41 for an election
3:16:43 um and I
3:16:46 think I think what I'm hearing is some
3:16:50 positive feedback from the Council on
3:16:54 the revenue strategies and the and the
3:16:56 list and um appreciation for all the
3:16:58 work that the committee did and support
3:17:01 for um taking it Taking It To The Next
3:17:05 Step um but I think talking about you
3:17:09 know timeline for implementing the plan
3:17:11 and you know
3:17:12 how you know how people decide when to
3:17:16 do an election and how much time you
3:17:18 need um I think we're getting ahead of
3:17:20 ourselves I think the next step is to
3:17:23 bring it back to the council um when the
3:17:27 administration and staff has time to put
3:17:30 together the next level of information
3:17:32 that we we've asked for and give the
3:17:35 public an opportunity to digest what we
3:17:37 just started talking about because we're
3:17:38 just digesting it too so I think it's
3:17:41 premature and I don't have an answer to
3:17:43 the next level of questions that you're
3:17:45 asking and really um I um I expressed
3:17:51 support for the committee's
3:17:53 recommendations at this stage and I just
3:17:55 think now it's time to go out to the
3:17:57 public and um I think the next
3:17:58 opportunity is the next time that comes
3:18:00 back to the council and at that point
3:18:02 the council can talk about what other
3:18:05 engagement opportunities we need before
3:18:07 we make a final decision but that's my
3:18:09 gut reaction tonight um let me go back
3:18:12 Administration for a SE section then and
3:18:14 just talk about um based on the
3:18:16 information request you've heard of what
3:18:18 they would like to see when it comes
3:18:20 back again what is the earliest possible
3:18:24 date that you would recommend it could
3:18:26 come back and then I can get feedback on
3:18:27 that sure it would be my recommendation
3:18:30 that we look at a work session in May
3:18:34 that would be May 13th my rational for
3:18:36 that is April is wholly consumed at this
3:18:39 point in terms of both the work session
3:18:41 and and the committee of the whole
3:18:43 meeting um a lot of work on strategic
3:18:46 plan um so I would look at the May 13th
3:18:49 date as a date by which um we could
3:18:52 bring back the information that has been
3:18:56 requested great so oh council member
3:18:59 Goodman and then I I guess I would also
3:19:02 if we want to start um trying to engage
3:19:05 the community even at this early stage I
3:19:08 say we you know we we blast that meeting
3:19:11 um out there
3:19:13 ahead of time so the public knows we're
3:19:14 going to be talking about this because
3:19:16 it's you know they're going to we're
3:19:18 going to want all the help we can get
3:19:20 from the community in in terms of where
3:19:23 they want us to
3:19:25 head so um regardless I I think it was U
3:19:29 very good the way council member
3:19:31 winterstein phrased it meaning let's
3:19:33 take a walk back from the earliest we
3:19:34 might do it but now um recognizing that
3:19:37 you actually have a lot of flexibility
3:19:39 out into 2020 or Beyond to do it um I'd
3:19:43 like you to give me your comments back
3:19:44 on the May date and see if that works
3:19:46 for you if we can meet the information
3:19:49 requirements and get the advertising out
3:19:52 there in time in a meaningful manner is
3:19:54 that a date that the council would like
3:19:55 to see it come back at since it's fresh
3:19:57 in your mind tonight after your two
3:19:58 hours of conversation let's my so I I
3:20:01 think May would be great the other piece
3:20:03 of information I think would be really
3:20:04 critical is
3:20:07 to have a timeline that shows if we went
3:20:11 out in this time frame or that time
3:20:13 frame what does it do to our overall um
3:20:17 budget and
3:20:19 um and cash flow and when would we be
3:20:21 able to do the various initiatives
3:20:23 assuming that we could and then I just
3:20:25 want to amplify what both uh council
3:20:28 member winstein and council member
3:20:29 Goodman said which is we we have time
3:20:33 and we should take the time and we need
3:20:35 input from the public and this is a big
3:20:37 decision and let's get it right thank
3:20:41 you any uh Council Walsh so I I think
3:20:45 the May time frame to come back and have
3:20:49 a next conversation is fantastic unless
3:20:52 we're trying to get on the November
3:20:55 ballot in which case if we have to get
3:20:58 something together by August so I I
3:21:01 would put it out that I am not in favor
3:21:04 of going out for a 2019 ballot because
3:21:07 we do not have time to get adequate
3:21:10 conversation with public
3:21:12 even though that does mean we're pushing
3:21:15 some of these projects down that's the
3:21:17 unfortunate situation of saying we're
3:21:20 starting this conversation now and we
3:21:23 have to respect the fact that that's
3:21:25 going to take some time thank you uh I
3:21:29 have not heard from a few of you council
3:21:33 member council member
3:21:35 hunt so I would be supportive of the the
3:21:39 May time frame and uh and I I think
3:21:44 um yeah I I just I think it's critical
3:21:47 that we take the time that we need uh
3:21:51 and that we have the chance to talk with
3:21:53 the community and I think that we've um
3:21:55 learned that in in the past and um so
3:21:59 but having it come back and um
3:22:03 revisiting in May makes sense thank you
3:22:05 council member hunt uh I am supportive
3:22:08 of the May timeline and um and um also
3:22:12 in agreement with council member
3:22:14 Goodman's um comments the 2020 ballot I
3:22:18 think the the two ballot the two timings
3:22:21 that were
3:22:22 mentioned um in the presentation were
3:22:26 for 2019 but there's a lot of options
3:22:30 and there's a lot of then sequencing
3:22:32 that's associated with those options and
3:22:34 that's all part of a conversation that's
3:22:37 in addition to this which is our first
3:22:39 touch conversation for some of us on
3:22:42 and so um supportive of the May option I
3:22:45 think we'll have a lot to talk about and
3:22:47 hopefully we'll have a lot of community
3:22:50 engagement between now and then and then
3:22:52 at that M timeline thank you I'm just
3:22:54 going to come back to council member
3:22:55 we're to sign in Mars because I don't
3:22:57 know that I actually got a head notot on
3:22:58 me from both of you that's
3:23:01 good I'm with
3:23:04 everybody I think from everybody that we
3:23:06 need to you know we will sell no wine
3:23:08 before it's
3:23:09 time um I do have one last question for
3:23:13 you and I'm also going to check in with
3:23:14 the administration to see if I've missed
3:23:16 anything however the question is um
3:23:19 there was a great discussion tonight
3:23:21 based on a body of work that took over
3:23:22 two years to really come forward in a u
3:23:26 format that the rest of council could
3:23:27 digest so thank you to the ad hoc
3:23:29 committee that was awesome I'm assuming
3:23:31 though and we've been talking about our
3:23:33 processes and where things reside or
3:23:35 live that this is one that comes back to
3:23:37 the full Council this is not one you're
3:23:39 looking to say take this back and have
3:23:42 ad hoc work on it you're wanting it to
3:23:43 stay with the
3:23:45 body council member Goodman um I guess
3:23:48 the one question I have then is um our
3:23:50 new board where do they where does that
3:23:53 board fit
3:23:57 in it's a good question I think because
3:24:00 they are so early and they were um not
3:24:03 anticipated to be engaged on
3:24:07 um on this particular issue I think uh
3:24:11 it may be a topic that will be of
3:24:13 interest to them and that we could uh
3:24:16 present to them but we weren't going to
3:24:19 seek a recommendation from them um not
3:24:23 sure how far along they will be for
3:24:25 example in May and April you have um
3:24:30 first introduction if I am recalling cor
3:24:34 no that's this month is first
3:24:35 introduction in March and then a joint
3:24:38 meeting with Transportation Advisory
3:24:40 Board in in April um so they're still in
3:24:45 just onboarding at this point in time
3:24:47 and getting geared up to pursue the uh
3:24:50 Mobility master
3:24:52 plan it's it just seems um that it's
3:24:57 potentially a good opportunity I mean we
3:24:59 have this new board that's um this is
3:25:02 the very topic that um they've been
3:25:05 assigned pointed to work on and so I
3:25:08 don't know the answer um but I think we
3:25:10 will have missed opportunity and it just
3:25:13 seems also just very weird if
3:25:18 um they get skipped somehow and so I
3:25:20 don't know what the answer is and and I
3:25:22 don't know how that how they might get
3:25:24 involved but I just leave that out there
3:25:26 for consideration sure and just to
3:25:28 clarify all that I'm saying is we
3:25:30 weren't going to um seek some sort of
3:25:33 action by that board but we'll be happy
3:25:35 to make sure that they're aware informed
3:25:38 have an opportunity to provide some
3:25:40 input
3:25:42 and I just want to ask a follow-up
3:25:44 question if that's okay the
3:25:46 transportation Advisory Board now is
3:25:48 sort of in this orientation session um
3:25:50 drinking through a fire hose kind of
3:25:51 like council member wsh is and um I
3:25:55 think what I'm hearing from the question
3:25:57 and the answer is that they won't be it
3:25:59 won't be a work plan item for them to
3:26:00 see what you're going to see um and
3:26:03 provide a recommendation to you for the
3:26:05 M art however we have a long Runway
3:26:08 because you've all made it very clear
3:26:09 that you want to have a public engage
3:26:11 process that's meaningful and have a
3:26:14 thoughtful process so I'm imagining
3:26:16 there is there is involvement for them
3:26:18 but not before May if that's makes
3:26:21 sense it does I'm you know I'm
3:26:24 this thank you um so you have answered
3:26:28 all of the questions that I had I just
3:26:30 want to take a double check and look
3:26:31 back at staff and see the administrator
3:26:34 and see if you've gotten everything that
3:26:35 you need in terms of Direction and with
3:26:38 our Deputy city clerk to see if there's
3:26:40 an official way of making a motion to
3:26:42 provide direction or this informal
3:26:43 manner worked out fine fabulous
3:26:47 questions I just want to make make
3:26:49 comment so so I realize we haven't made
3:26:52 any firm decisions this evening um
3:26:54 everybody there's still information that
3:26:56 people want nevertheless I'm really
3:26:58 excited about the conversation that we
3:26:59 had tonight um the ad hoc finance
3:27:02 committee has been working on this in
3:27:04 you know sort of the dark for a long
3:27:06 time now and been eager to discuss this
3:27:08 both with the rest of council uh and
3:27:11 with the community and so I'm just
3:27:13 thrilled that we're now this this
3:27:15 conversation is is out in out in the
3:27:17 daylight and uh and uh and has seen some
3:27:21 some initial enthusiasm um for parts of
3:27:23 it from the rest of the council I do
3:27:25 want to thank uh director Goldberg and
3:27:26 director Lynn and City administrator
3:27:29 moon for all the hard work that they put
3:27:31 in uh in in getting us to this point and
3:27:34 eager to see where we go from here oh am
3:27:37 I are there any other final comments are
3:27:40 we ready to move to good of the
3:27:42 order good of the order do any council
3:27:45 members have any items for good of the
3:27:49 order done I have a few that I would
3:27:52 like to add um just a update on some
3:27:55 upcoming Council meetings there's a
3:27:56 council work session on March 11th and
3:27:58 the potential agenda items include
3:28:02 Transit oriented development Opportunity
3:28:04 Center update Mobility master plan
3:28:07 introduction Citywide strategic plan and
3:28:10 Council rules of procedure at least it's
3:28:13 all small
3:28:16 I March 18th regular council meeting
3:28:19 prior to the regular council meeting a
3:28:20 special council meeting for an executive
3:28:22 session will occur at 5:45 p.m. in the
3:28:24 cougar room the regular meeting
3:28:26 potential agenda items include oh Chris
3:28:30 you have to get council member you have
3:28:31 to give me what's your new name for the
3:28:33 pinch point oh South Cove non-motorized
3:28:36 transport uh
3:28:38 connectivity nonmotorized con
3:28:41 activity so not sure when there may be a
3:28:44 name change but the regular meeting
3:28:46 potential agenda items include Northwest
3:28:50 samamish I can't even read what I wrote
3:28:52 down there okay not using the word pinch
3:28:55 Point project wash. funding request it
3:28:58 worked really
3:29:00 well uh there is no executive session
3:29:03 this evening so there being no further
3:29:05 business this meeting is adjourned at
3:29:08 10:30 he took the uh question

Attendance

Council / Members (7)
Mariah Bettise
Stacy Goodman
Victoria Hunt
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Lindsey Walsh
Paul Winterstein

Motions and votes (1)

APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. a) ID 0326 - Accounts: Payables and Payroll of Mar. 4, 2019, $ 4,217,946.32; Approved. b) Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, Feb. 19, 2019; Approved. c) Minutes: Council Committee Work Session, Feb. 20, 2019; Approved. d) AB 7711 - Lodging Tax Advisory Co…
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
Carried 7-0
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein