Park Board · Monday, June 26, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of May 22, 2023

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APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 05-22-23 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave May 22, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Rainier Trail Dog Park Update

Information / Discussion · 30 min · Hasanthi Piyasena, Business Operations Specialist HBB Consultants · packet pp.7–17

Topics: Parks

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II. Rainier Trail Dog Park Conceptual Design III. Questions and

Park Operations Division Update

Information · 20 min · Rick Still, Park Operations Manager · packet pp.19–32

Topics: Parks

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Parks Operations Division Parks Operations Manager

ADA Transition Plan

Information / Discussion · 20 min · Dale Markey-Crimp, Performance Program Analyst · packet pp.33–44

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5. REPORTS

Chairperson's Report

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REPORTS b) Ongoing Calendar – tentative and a working document Month Agenda Items Month Agenda Items January 23 • Title 18 Draft July 31 • TOUR and/or Board meeting at a • Recreation Update park? • 2023 Work Plan – Ad Hoc groups?

Director's Report

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0:02 ↗ Chris all right well as the new current

0:04 ↗ chair

0:06 ↗ I called the meeting to order

0:09 ↗ uh so we'll start off with uh roll call

0:12 ↗ and I'll just call your names and if you

0:14 ↗ can say yes and

0:16 ↗ um

0:17 ↗ I'm sure we have quorum

0:20 ↗ um I'll start with Brad because I see

0:23 ↗ him yes I'm here

0:25 ↗ and Marlene hi I'm here

0:29 ↗ Brenda yes

0:31 ↗ Zach here

0:33 ↗ and I'm here

0:36 ↗ um

0:37 ↗ Katie

0:39 ↗ as an excuse

0:41 ↗ Andrew both Andrews have an excuse I saw

0:44 ↗ that oh sorry David sorry I looked like

0:46 ↗ last year

0:50 ↗ um both Andrews

0:52 ↗ and then Tim

0:55 ↗ Pokey might show up

0:56 ↗ right

0:58 ↗ Ryan is an excuse

1:00 ↗ me okay

1:01 ↗ and Nicholas were waiting yeah okay

1:07 ↗ um it looks what we have we have quorum

1:11 ↗ English to cities

1:14 ↗ okay Nicholas is coming up virtual thank

1:17 ↗ you

1:21 ↗ uh okay we have Forum so then uh did

1:25 ↗ everybody get a chance to read the

1:26 ↗ minutes that were sent out

1:29 ↗ any corrections or changes anyone wants

1:32 ↗ to note

1:37 ↗ no Corrections the minutes are approved

1:43 ↗ uh typically we would go to public

1:45 ↗ comments right now but

1:48 ↗ we have one person from the public from

1:51 ↗ the community here and a request to uh

1:54 ↗ for him to be able to provide his

1:55 ↗ comments after the dog park presentation

1:57 ↗ so we're going to honor that request and

2:00 ↗ uh move right into regular business

2:08 ↗ great so first step for regular business

2:11 ↗ is a Rainier Trail Dog Park update

2:16 ↗ um and you have the fun of having me

2:18 ↗ help present this presentation tonight

2:22 ↗ um so let me just

2:24 ↗ yeah

2:34 ↗ sure looks nice on paper

2:38 ↗ um so yeah we have our consultant team

2:42 ↗ from hbd uh who's joining us to talk

2:45 ↗ through the design tonight

2:47 ↗ um Steve uh Novacek is here with us

2:51 ↗ online and he'll be joining me as we

2:53 ↗ present this concept and talk through

2:56 ↗ the plans for the Rainier Trail Dog Park

3:00 ↗ um

3:01 ↗ as many of you know there's been lots of

3:04 ↗ community engagement around the dog

3:06 ↗ parks here in Issaquah and we're going

3:09 ↗ to walk through the design a little bit

3:11 ↗ of project background and then have time

3:13 ↗ for questions and discussion

3:18 ↗ so just a little bit of the project

3:20 ↗ background obviously Jennifer Fink did

3:22 ↗ most of this work

3:24 ↗ um on the dog park and the location and

3:28 ↗ working with our Consultants

3:30 ↗ um and myself Rick still

3:33 ↗ um here from our department and Jeff and

3:35 ↗ I are stewarding our Park projects

3:38 ↗ forward

3:40 ↗ um through the transition so this is one

3:42 ↗ of the projects that I'm helping out

3:44 ↗ with

3:45 ↗ um but just wanted to recognize that

3:48 ↗ there has been a lot of community

3:50 ↗ engagement and feedback to include a dog

3:54 ↗ park within the city's Park system

3:57 ↗ um the prior to the pandemic there were

3:59 ↗ multiple rounds of community engagement

4:01 ↗ you all probably know about this more

4:03 ↗ than I do

4:04 ↗ um to include a state park space for a

4:08 ↗ large open dock run and through the 2018

4:11 ↗ Park strategic Plan update that need

4:14 ↗ sort of rose to the top to have a dog

4:16 ↗ park within the city's Park system

4:20 ↗ um

4:20 ↗ during the pandemic obviously lots of

4:23 ↗ things changed and one of those changes

4:25 ↗ was the need for a dog park that could

4:28 ↗ be used during the pandemic pretty much

4:30 ↗ immediately so the parks department was

4:33 ↗ able to

4:35 ↗ mobilize and put up some pop-up dog park

4:38 ↗ locations around town and you all might

4:41 ↗ remember some of these there was squawk

4:43 ↗ Valley Park was used as a pop-up doglet

4:45 ↗ Park location the Pickering Barn lawn as

4:48 ↗ well as the community center next to the

4:51 ↗ Rainier Trail which is where the current

4:52 ↗ pop-up dog park is and is the location

4:55 ↗ for this permanent dog park plan that

4:58 ↗ we're going to cover tonight

5:01 ↗ um

5:07 ↗ Nicholas can you please resend that chat

5:09 ↗ or

5:11 ↗ do you want to unmute yourself and and

5:13 ↗ ask a question feel free it was about a

5:16 ↗ technical situation oh okay

5:19 ↗ got it

5:21 ↗ it might be under the chat

5:24 ↗ uh me

5:26 ↗ stop sharing

5:31 ↗ yeah sorry it's no uh nothing about the

5:33 ↗ agenda item it was just a note about

5:35 ↗ attendance since I missed roll call

5:38 ↗ yes I will I will make sure that you get

5:41 ↗ added I saw you join early so you will

5:44 ↗ you will get noted thank you

5:53 ↗ thanks sorry for the interruption I saw

5:55 ↗ something but I didn't know what it was

5:56 ↗ no worries thank you for for letting me

5:58 ↗ know there's a lot of stuff go

6:03 ↗ es

6:03 ↗ um okay so pop-up dog park locations um

6:06 ↗ as you'll notice these are smaller

6:09 ↗ locations

6:10 ↗ um the pop-up approach really led us to

6:13 ↗ think about creating sort of these

6:15 ↗ neighborhood sized dog parks

6:17 ↗ um as opposed to finding one large

6:20 ↗ city-wide dog park

6:22 ↗ um as you all know Issaquah is

6:25 ↗ um pretty stretched for flat dry land

6:29 ↗ within our system we do have lots of

6:31 ↗ land but flat and dry is is hard to come

6:34 ↗ by

6:36 ↗ um and so really using this location and

6:39 ↗ the pop-up approach to

6:41 ↗ model some smaller neighborhood sized

6:45 ↗ parks with the idea that this won't be

6:47 ↗ the only dog park within our city park

6:49 ↗ system

6:51 ↗ um the revisioning at Tibbetts Valley

6:55 ↗ Park that was one of the locations that

6:57 ↗ was also chosen as a possible dog park

6:59 ↗ location that planning is still moving

7:02 ↗ forward but that dog park plan will be

7:06 ↗ encapsulated through the larger

7:09 ↗ revisioning for the entire park itself

7:13 ↗ um so it's not

7:15 ↗ gone it's just part of another Park

7:18 ↗ feature that we're going to be reviewing

7:19 ↗ in the future

7:22 ↗ um

7:23 ↗ and with that we're going to move

7:25 ↗ forward to sort of going through the

7:27 ↗ design elements there was a community

7:29 ↗ engagement opportunity last week with

7:32 ↗ the open house at the dog park we've

7:35 ↗ received a lot of of positive public

7:38 ↗ comments about it there was a lot of

7:39 ↗ people that showed up for their concerns

7:43 ↗ and and to also give feedback so we'll

7:45 ↗ go through those through the

7:46 ↗ presentation and I will pass the Baton

7:50 ↗ over to Steve to walk us through the

7:53 ↗ design

7:55 ↗ hi good evening my name is Steve Novacek

7:59 ↗ I'm a principal and landscape architect

8:02 ↗ with hbb landscape architecture so we

8:06 ↗ have been working on a conceptual design

8:09 ↗ for the Rainier Trail Dog Park

8:13 ↗ um in essence our our concept design

8:17 ↗ formalizes the existing pop-up dog park

8:20 ↗ at Rainier Trail

8:22 ↗ and in order to maximize the off leash

8:27 ↗ area

8:28 ↗ and provide Universal accessibility into

8:32 ↗ the park entry

8:34 ↗ we looked at slightly Shifting the

8:37 ↗ existing gravel trail that connects the

8:41 ↗ parking lot from the community center to

8:45 ↗ the paved Rainier Trail

8:48 ↗ this accomplishes a couple of things it

8:51 ↗ provides a a central entry point into

8:56 ↗ the dog park

8:57 ↗ and it also provides a larger

9:00 ↗ maintenance access area directly from

9:04 ↗ the parking lot for Parks maintenance

9:06 ↗ into the dog park

9:09 ↗ the entry point includes a double gate

9:14 ↗ system which is a pretty typical feature

9:17 ↗ for dog parks uh this this allows users

9:21 ↗ to unleash their dogs before entering

9:25 ↗ into the main off-leash area or then

9:28 ↗ again re-leashing their dogs before

9:30 ↗ exiting the park

9:32 ↗ this design option included an area for

9:38 ↗ a small or shy Dog Zone to to the screen

9:43 ↗ left here

9:45 ↗ and that was one of the features that we

9:49 ↗ were seeking public comment and feedback

9:51 ↗ on

9:53 ↗ the the main entrance zone is situated

9:58 ↗ to include seating opportunities with

10:01 ↗ benches or potentially picnic tables

10:04 ↗ and space is also allotted for

10:08 ↗ potentially covered areas for for

10:12 ↗ shelter

10:14 ↗ and this paved area would also include

10:16 ↗ watering stations for dogs

10:20 ↗ um

10:20 ↗ there there may possibly be multiple

10:23 ↗ watering stations depending on whether

10:25 ↗ or not

10:26 ↗ a smaller shy dog area is pursued

10:32 ↗ the overall

10:34 ↗ off-leash area uh

10:37 ↗ is expanded to include some of the

10:40 ↗ existing mature trees to the East and

10:44 ↗ into the South

10:46 ↗ within the property to

10:48 ↗ provide some

10:51 ↗ uh

10:53 ↗ a little bit of

10:55 ↗ added

10:58 ↗ landscape feature for for dogs and for

11:01 ↗ park goers

11:04 ↗ um it's also including some of the

11:06 ↗ sloped Hillside for for added visual

11:09 ↗ interest and for exercise

11:14 ↗ the concept design includes a small

11:17 ↗ soft surface pathway around the main

11:21 ↗ off-leash area which will provide access

11:24 ↗ to the entire site

11:26 ↗ and also provide additional seating

11:28 ↗ opportunities

11:32 ↗ we're including in the concept plan

11:35 ↗ additional Landscaping along the western

11:38 ↗ edge

11:40 ↗ so this would add

11:43 ↗ shade trees and shade for the dog park

11:46 ↗ area

11:47 ↗ as well as uh formalized entrance into

11:52 ↗ the dog park

11:54 ↗ new fencing would be included around the

11:56 ↗ entire perimeter

11:58 ↗ which was another feature that that we

12:01 ↗ were seeking public feedback on and

12:04 ↗ there would be new surfacing

12:06 ↗ provided throughout the entire dog park

12:11 ↗ and that would kind of take us into

12:14 ↗ the public engagement open house

12:19 ↗ event that that was held just recently

12:23 ↗ last Thursday

12:24 ↗ uh on on June 22nd

12:30 ↗ at the public

12:32 ↗ open house we

12:34 ↗ we provided the concept plan as well as

12:38 ↗ some Park feature boards these these

12:42 ↗ Park feature boards included

12:46 ↗ a variety of different material types

12:50 ↗ such as the fencing the dog park

12:54 ↗ surfacing

12:56 ↗ benches picnic tables and a variety of

13:00 ↗ dog amenities

13:02 ↗ which includes the small dog area some

13:06 ↗ landform variety

13:08 ↗ agility features for dogs and the

13:12 ↗ watering stations

13:14 ↗ so these three boards were set up nearby

13:18 ↗ the existing dog park

13:22 ↗ I was at the event along with Juliet

13:25 ↗ vong another principal from hbb and City

13:29 ↗ staff were there to talk about the dog

13:32 ↗ park design

13:34 ↗ listen to comments and to get feedback

13:37 ↗ on some of these design options

13:46 ↗ so with our concept plan presented at

13:51 ↗ the pop-up

13:53 ↗ open house we

13:56 ↗ we talked about the layout of the dog

13:58 ↗ park and and got a lot of great comments

14:01 ↗ different

14:03 ↗ opinions on the design features and and

14:07 ↗ the overall layout we have all of these

14:09 ↗ comments recorded

14:11 ↗ uh with sticky notes

14:13 ↗ um and we'll be compiling all of that

14:15 ↗ information to help

14:18 ↗ um to help us in our future design

14:21 ↗ development of the park

14:23 ↗ and while Juliet and I were talking with

14:27 ↗ residents and park goers in the

14:29 ↗ community we were also recording other

14:32 ↗ various comments that came up during

14:34 ↗ conversation on a on a larger pad of

14:38 ↗ paper

14:43 ↗ and so the park feature boards we we

14:47 ↗ were giving out

14:49 ↗ dot stickers so that people attending

14:53 ↗ the open house could cast votes on some

14:56 ↗ of these different

14:59 ↗ features for the dog park this again

15:02 ↗ would will will help us in in defining

15:06 ↗ the different material types and and

15:08 ↗ further development

15:10 ↗ of the design for the dog park so it's a

15:14 ↗ great visual representation for

15:16 ↗ the feedback that we received and in

15:19 ↗ support for various design features

15:22 ↗ including the fencing types it's we we

15:25 ↗ saw an overwhelming majority leaning

15:28 ↗ towards the more natural fencing type

15:31 ↗ with a wood frame or a split rail Style

15:35 ↗ and in addition the surfacing there

15:38 ↗ there was a lot of positive support for

15:41 ↗ a mulch type surfacing as opposed to a

15:44 ↗ synthetic lawn

15:47 ↗ and with regard to the site

15:50 ↗ Furnishings

15:52 ↗ um one of the main pieces of feedback we

15:55 ↗ we heard had to do with durability and

15:58 ↗ picking products that will stand the

16:00 ↗ test of time we saw a lot of support for

16:03 ↗ the metal style benches and and tables

16:09 ↗ um and in terms of amenities for the

16:11 ↗ dogs we we did hear a lot of support for

16:14 ↗ a small or shy dog area uh an option for

16:19 ↗ for folks to

16:21 ↗ have their

16:22 ↗ animals somewhat separate if they felt

16:25 ↗ that was a need

16:27 ↗ and then the agility features are always

16:30 ↗ a fun addition good good feedback on

16:33 ↗ that option and uh great support for

16:38 ↗ having a water station

16:41 ↗ and a little bit less support for the

16:44 ↗ the dog washing station option

16:55 ↗ thanks Steve

16:57 ↗ um and we also received some online

17:00 ↗ feedback through emails to myself which

17:03 ↗ is still open if anyone has

17:05 ↗ um public comment or anything they'd

17:07 ↗ like to to give us feedback on in

17:08 ↗ relation to the dog park plans

17:11 ↗ um a couple of things that community

17:12 ↗ members brought up for sort of the size

17:14 ↗ of the park noting that you know this is

17:16 ↗ a neighborhood-sized park and not a

17:19 ↗ large multi-acre dog run Park

17:22 ↗ um being aware of the critical areas and

17:25 ↗ slopes and the drainage of the area that

17:27 ↗ is currently selected there was some

17:30 ↗ questions about waste bins and bags and

17:33 ↗ their locations within the dog park

17:36 ↗ um the importance of shade as we head

17:39 ↗ into what is hopefully going to be a

17:41 ↗ wonderful summer

17:43 ↗ um the importance of shade for both the

17:45 ↗ users and their their four-legged

17:49 ↗ friends which were including some of the

17:52 ↗ trees that are already at the site but

17:53 ↗ there's also you know plans for for

17:56 ↗ trees in the area

17:58 ↗ um the possibility of a shelter

18:00 ↗ um we got some comments about

18:02 ↗ educational signage for responsible dog

18:05 ↗ ownership considerations for lighting um

18:08 ↗ in that area and then

18:10 ↗ um and a couple of people brought up

18:12 ↗ sort of having this option for multiple

18:15 ↗ entrances and exits so the current

18:17 ↗ pop-up has an entrance and exit on both

18:20 ↗ ends of the dog park and people really

18:23 ↗ liked that feature and wrote in about it

18:27 ↗ um as I said we do still have the

18:29 ↗ opportunity to receive further feedback

18:31 ↗ on this plan through email

18:33 ↗ um if it's included in the project

18:36 ↗ website but they can just email me

18:38 ↗ hassanthip

18:40 ↗ issaquah.gov and we'll be taking that

18:42 ↗ feedback through June 30th to be able to

18:45 ↗ incorporate it into this dog park

18:48 ↗ um design and plan

18:51 ↗ um

18:52 ↗ and with that we will move into

18:55 ↗ discussion and feedback from the board I

18:58 ↗ do want to note that you know this

19:00 ↗ version and the community engagement

19:01 ↗ that we did is is hopefully going to

19:03 ↗ help us inform both this dog park design

19:06 ↗ but also future design so you know there

19:09 ↗ are some features that that were

19:11 ↗ included that might not work for this

19:13 ↗ particular space but if we have positive

19:15 ↗ feedback and a community need for it we

19:18 ↗ may be able to include it in another dog

19:20 ↗ park

19:21 ↗ um

19:23 ↗ so yeah I'll open it up to to the board

19:26 ↗ feedback in question

19:29 ↗ so I guess first question is there's a

19:31 ↗ parking lot obviously how many spaces

19:33 ↗ are designated for that parking lot

19:35 ↗ right now

19:36 ↗ so I don't know off the top of my head

19:38 ↗ how many are designated in that parking

19:40 ↗ lot but we are not proposing changing

19:43 ↗ the parking in that area or making any

19:45 ↗ of it specifically dog park only parking

19:49 ↗ if that helps well I'm just worried

19:52 ↗ because

19:53 ↗ this would be sort of the only dog park

19:55 ↗ in the area like literally permanent dog

19:57 ↗ park and so if you have let's say a five

19:59 ↗ car parking there's going to be

20:01 ↗ spreading and parking all the way down

20:02 ↗ the street which might anger some

20:04 ↗ residents obviously as we've discussed

20:07 ↗ in the past

20:08 ↗ um so yeah I'm just curious about that

20:10 ↗ yeah I believe the Community Center

20:12 ↗ parking lot

20:13 ↗ don't quote me on this but I think it's

20:16 ↗ about 60 parking spaces for that entire

20:19 ↗ parking lot not just that that section

20:22 ↗ at the end there

20:23 ↗ um there is ample parking within there

20:26 ↗ but definitely something for us to keep

20:28 ↗ in mind you can work all up and down by

20:30 ↗ Clark too correct okay and so when it's

20:33 ↗ not during the school day like there's

20:34 ↗ tons of art yeah okay

20:37 ↗ which is when it would be crowded in the

20:38 ↗ community center would be on those

20:39 ↗ Saturdays and Sundays when there's like

20:41 ↗ basketball and stuff right right so that

20:43 ↗ should offset each other

20:45 ↗ good

20:49 ↗ thank you I have more of a question

20:51 ↗ about the Synthetic Turf and you know

20:53 ↗ there's one thing about like public

20:54 ↗ comments and what we're used to which is

20:55 ↗ more of the bark I think I had heard at

20:58 ↗ a different meeting that the Synthetic

20:59 ↗ Turf was actually easier to maintain and

21:02 ↗ more hygienic is that true do we know

21:06 ↗ anything more about like the synthetic

21:09 ↗ options for dog parks I'd be looking

21:11 ↗ maybe more for our partners to tell us a

21:14 ↗ little bit more about that because I

21:15 ↗ heard it came up as like not as

21:17 ↗ interested in that in the public

21:18 ↗ comments I also wonder if it's an

21:21 ↗ education thing on the benefits

21:24 ↗ yeah Steve are you able to talk a little

21:27 ↗ bit about Synthetic Turf

21:29 ↗ yeah sure

21:31 ↗ um I mean you know Synthetic Turf for

21:34 ↗ for dog parks is is definitely a very

21:38 ↗ good option for for a variety of reasons

21:41 ↗ um I mean in terms of

21:43 ↗ it being more hygienic that that isn't

21:47 ↗ necessarily one of the

21:50 ↗ primary benefits of it it does require

21:55 ↗ frequent washing down

21:58 ↗ um

21:59 ↗ you know this this occasionally involves

22:03 ↗ a permanent irrigation system in order

22:06 ↗ to to kind of flush

22:08 ↗ the lawn

22:10 ↗ um and keep it clean

22:12 ↗ um keep it cool when it gets really hot

22:15 ↗ during the summer

22:18 ↗ um it is

22:20 ↗ you know one of the benefits in terms of

22:23 ↗ hygiene I would say is that it's very

22:26 ↗ easy to locate and pick up dog waste as

22:31 ↗ compared to some other materials

22:34 ↗ um there there just tends to be some

22:37 ↗ trade-offs when it comes to

22:41 ↗ maintenance considerations

22:44 ↗ um

22:45 ↗ and the

22:48 ↗ the the construction required for

22:52 ↗ installation

22:54 ↗ um

22:54 ↗ but it's it's it's a well

22:58 ↗ used option in in many dog parks there

23:01 ↗ definitely are products out there that

23:04 ↗ are specifically designed for dog parks

23:07 ↗ that that do include some

23:10 ↗ anti-microbial properties

23:13 ↗ um but I you know I guess the one thing

23:16 ↗ that I would just want to stress is that

23:18 ↗ it

23:19 ↗ it would still involve some amount of

23:22 ↗ cleaning and maintenance

23:24 ↗ um similar to to any other type of

23:27 ↗ product

23:30 ↗ before we had a big debate about

23:32 ↗ materials whether it was mulch or

23:33 ↗ whether it was like they're like we like

23:36 ↗ I feel like we had like two meetings

23:37 ↗ about the right type of

23:40 ↗ product and so I'm just curious if we

23:42 ↗ landed on pathetic for a reason and then

23:43 ↗ we'd want to potentially go back to park

23:45 ↗ if we've explored all the trade-offs and

23:47 ↗ pros and cons and if there's more of an

23:49 ↗ expert opinion

23:50 ↗ on both versus just sort of Leaning one

23:53 ↗ way or the other based on public comment

23:56 ↗ yeah and we're definitely having those

23:58 ↗ conversations with our HPV Partners

24:01 ↗ um as well as looking at sort of cost

24:03 ↗ and overall operations and maintenance

24:05 ↗ for the longevity of this park

24:07 ↗ then my other question I think they had

24:09 ↗ debated the

24:10 ↗ safety of Bart which I know they use

24:12 ↗ bark in tons of places so I was always

24:13 ↗ kind of confused about that but I know

24:14 ↗ that there was some people who were

24:15 ↗ really against Bart for pause so I just

24:17 ↗ I'm more Curious I don't know the answer

24:19 ↗ I just want to make sure we're exploring

24:22 ↗ all of those pros and cons

24:26 ↗ yeah and I guess just to just to speak

24:28 ↗ to the the bark material there are

24:33 ↗ different

24:35 ↗ types of products for bark mulch

24:39 ↗ there is a what what's what's sometimes

24:43 ↗ known as a

24:44 ↗ engineered wood fiber

24:47 ↗ uh

24:49 ↗ by bar actually is the is the one of the

24:52 ↗ brand names for it which is sometimes

24:55 ↗ used in

24:57 ↗ playground surfacing which has a little

25:00 ↗ bit of a softer touch to it

25:04 ↗ um you don't get the same sort of like

25:08 ↗ long strands of wood that are that are

25:12 ↗ shreddy which which might come with a

25:14 ↗ more traditional wood chip mulch

25:18 ↗ um so that you know that that specific

25:20 ↗ product is something that that would be

25:23 ↗ looked at if

25:25 ↗ uh you know a mulch material was was the

25:28 ↗ preferred surfacing alternative

25:34 ↗ so we're just not at that place yet but

25:36 ↗ we will have a big trade-off sort of

25:39 ↗ expert opinion on all these different

25:41 ↗ servicing types at some point

25:44 ↗ that's not very good okay that'll be

25:47 ↗ that'll be part of our our design

25:48 ↗ process

25:51 ↗ and then the other thing I would throw

25:52 ↗ out there is you guys mentioned brain

25:55 ↗ shelter

25:56 ↗ I think that's a great idea I don't know

25:58 ↗ if I see it in the plan

25:59 ↗ you know when I'm up in that Highland

26:00 ↗ stock Park there's a lot of people head

26:01 ↗ all over that Little Shelter

26:04 ↗ um

26:11 ↗ yes so a shelter option was was included

26:16 ↗ um I I think

26:19 ↗ and on budget for that area whether a

26:22 ↗ shelter is included in this particular

26:24 ↗ Park

26:26 ↗ um

26:27 ↗ but yes

26:33 ↗ it could be planned for for another

26:34 ↗ phase yeah and you know that that that

26:37 ↗ really was part of our intent with

26:40 ↗ allotting a certain amount of volume of

26:44 ↗ space at the entry that you know that

26:46 ↗ that volume of space would allow for a

26:50 ↗ small weather protection shelter

26:54 ↗ yeah phase projects make me nervous for

26:57 ↗ obvious reasons

26:59 ↗ I think potentially such is it maybe a

27:01 ↗ trade-off between the shelter and

27:03 ↗ multiple entrances I know that's a cost

27:04 ↗ as well or like how are we trading off

27:06 ↗ based on feedback for those amenities

27:11 ↗ that is a great question that I'm going

27:13 ↗ to take back to our planning team

27:17 ↗ who's declining team

27:20 ↗ DVD

27:23 ↗ it is currently Rick Jeff and myself

27:27 ↗ with our with our partners so really I'm

27:30 ↗ making note for Jeff

27:32 ↗ um when he's back but it's a it's a

27:35 ↗ great question and and great comment I

27:37 ↗ understand we can't do it all I just

27:39 ↗ want to like figure out how we want to

27:40 ↗ decide yeah

27:43 ↗ have some comments

27:46 ↗ um I agree so that I think it'd be

27:49 ↗ really important to find out from our

27:51 ↗ maintenance staff

27:52 ↗ if it's turf or mulch

27:55 ↗ what are the maintenance implications

27:57 ↗ for those two or some other surface uh

28:00 ↗ same for the fencing um you know I

28:02 ↗ really like the look of the wood fence

28:03 ↗ with the coated mesh but how does it

28:07 ↗ hold up and you know what do you have to

28:10 ↗ do and I don't know maybe it pressure

28:12 ↗ treated wood

28:13 ↗ maybe that's not even a great thing to

28:15 ↗ have around dogs I don't know

28:17 ↗ um

28:18 ↗ and then if we are maybe if the mulch is

28:20 ↗ a less expensive option the shelters

28:23 ↗ seem like they're very valuable I mean

28:26 ↗ we call it a dog park but it's people in

28:28 ↗ dog park

28:29 ↗ and

28:30 ↗ um I know when I've gone to dog parks

28:32 ↗ it's nice to have a place to be with

28:35 ↗ someone else while the dogs are doing

28:37 ↗ their thing and have some socializing

28:39 ↗ time

28:40 ↗ to socialize myself just like the dogs

28:46 ↗ yeah I as much as I love would I would

28:49 ↗ have some concern over a wood fence it

28:52 ↗ looks great but five years down the road

28:54 ↗ really hard to maintain

28:56 ↗ and you end up ultimately replacing it

28:58 ↗ probably a lot sooner than you would

29:00 ↗ other materials

29:01 ↗ so I'd really take a hard look at

29:03 ↗ options with that and not necessarily

29:07 ↗ face totally off of what the community

29:10 ↗ thinks

29:11 ↗ as much as maybe what Rick might think

29:14 ↗ and his team and not rich better I'm

29:18 ↗ curious Steve I don't know if you're

29:20 ↗ still digesting the feedback but do you

29:24 ↗ have any great takeaways at this point

29:25 ↗ as to what changes that you might make

29:28 ↗ from your initial design plan

29:31 ↗ um after hearing from the community

29:35 ↗ that's a great question uh we we are

29:38 ↗ still going through all all of the notes

29:42 ↗ uh that that we received during during

29:45 ↗ Thursday's event

29:47 ↗ um but you know some of the general

29:49 ↗ takeaways

29:51 ↗ um you know that that I heard

29:55 ↗ more than once more than twice

29:57 ↗ um you know this idea of of ensuring

30:00 ↗ that that there are multiple exit entry

30:05 ↗ and and exit points uh within the park

30:08 ↗ that I think that's a really important

30:11 ↗ feature we you know our intent with the

30:13 ↗ original design was to really minimize

30:16 ↗ the footprint uh to to the maximum

30:20 ↗ extent possible uh to kind of minimize

30:23 ↗ our impact

30:25 ↗ um but you know providing a little bit

30:28 ↗ more uh permeability in the fence

30:33 ↗ um I I think that's a really important

30:35 ↗ feature

30:37 ↗ um

30:39 ↗ there there was some feedback having to

30:42 ↗ do with you know the the quantity of

30:47 ↗ benches and tables throughout the park

30:50 ↗ you know the size of this park is it's

30:52 ↗ it's it's a good size

30:55 ↗ um but it may not support you know what

30:58 ↗ where our original concept plan was

31:00 ↗ looking at in terms of you know seating

31:05 ↗ um

31:07 ↗ you know in terms of the layout and

31:10 ↗ design those are those are kind of the

31:13 ↗ the bigger features that that we're

31:16 ↗ wanting to consider

31:18 ↗ um we we did get good feedback having to

31:22 ↗ do with other considerations as as we

31:25 ↗ move the the park design forward

31:29 ↗ um and into you know different and more

31:32 ↗ intricate layers of of development

31:35 ↗ um

31:36 ↗ talking about drainage and preservation

31:39 ↗ of existing trees

31:42 ↗ um you know these are all really

31:43 ↗ important items that that will continue

31:46 ↗ to to consider and look deeper into as

31:50 ↗ we you know develop the design

31:58 ↗ thanks

32:02 ↗ you know their discussion

32:05 ↗ I guess my only other question would be

32:07 ↗ whether there's any national

32:08 ↗ organizations

32:10 ↗ um out there that where you are

32:13 ↗ researching to determine

32:15 ↗ uh best practices on dog parks nowadays

32:18 ↗ there's been so many of them I'm sure a

32:20 ↗ lot of these things have been tested

32:22 ↗ over time in terms of surfacing and a

32:25 ↗ lot of different variables as to what is

32:27 ↗ highly recommended after so much has

32:30 ↗ gone on with dog parks

32:34 ↗ yeah absolutely

32:36 ↗ um we we've our our firm has has engaged

32:40 ↗ in a lot of research with dog parks and

32:43 ↗ and weed we have worked on and designed

32:47 ↗ and you know worked through installation

32:50 ↗ of of multiple other dog parks

32:52 ↗ throughout the region to to understand

32:54 ↗ best practices

32:57 ↗ [Music]

32:57 ↗ um

32:58 ↗ you know safety considerations

33:02 ↗ um

33:03 ↗ what what works best for an engaging

33:07 ↗ design

33:08 ↗ [Music]

33:10 ↗ um

33:11 ↗ you know how how can you work the site

33:14 ↗ so that you know people and dogs won't

33:17 ↗ wind up getting trapped that that has a

33:19 ↗ lot to do with the way that we've laid

33:21 ↗ the park out now with a lot of

33:24 ↗ round edges and and

33:27 ↗ not not as many corners

33:30 ↗ um

33:31 ↗ you know in terms of the the surfacing

33:33 ↗ this you know this is something where

33:36 ↗ again it really comes back to uh uh

33:42 ↗ a a cost and benefit analysis with

33:47 ↗ maintenance considerations

33:50 ↗ um you know size of the dog park

33:53 ↗ um user preference really

33:57 ↗ um all of the different surfacing types

34:00 ↗ have

34:01 ↗ benefits and negatives and I think it's

34:05 ↗ it's it's one of those things where it's

34:09 ↗ it's best to really line up all of the

34:11 ↗ options all of their

34:14 ↗ pluses and all of their negatives and

34:16 ↗ understand what what works best for the

34:19 ↗ community in this particular location

34:24 ↗ foreign

34:28 ↗ that's that's right it's a it's a

34:30 ↗ spreadsheet with a breakdown pros and

34:33 ↗ cons list

34:35 ↗ thanks of course

34:38 ↗ just one last thing

34:40 ↗ um this is my own personal pet peeve as

34:42 ↗ a dog owner and I'm sorry I didn't go to

34:44 ↗ the public comment time but the water

34:46 ↗ stations I would just suggest putting a

34:48 ↗ little more concrete around them I know

34:50 ↗ they're kind of pushed to the edge of

34:51 ↗ Right Where You have the play areas if

34:54 ↗ you've ever been to a dog park those

34:55 ↗ water areas are just a soupy mess and so

34:58 ↗ having more concrete there is definitely

35:00 ↗ favorable because it's not just the

35:01 ↗ water stations people will bring dog

35:03 ↗ bowls and just leave them there so

35:04 ↗ you'll have like 50 dog holes around the

35:06 ↗ water station if you don't want to talk

35:08 ↗ about yeah so there's a huge divided

35:11 ↗ but this is a this is a great comment

35:14 ↗ and I I heard other similar comments

35:18 ↗ having to do with the water stations and

35:21 ↗ one of the other ones that that was

35:23 ↗ really good and

35:25 ↗ um not not actually something that I had

35:28 ↗ heard before was you know because of the

35:32 ↗ way that most of these dog watering

35:34 ↗ stations are set up with

35:37 ↗ the the the water bowl and the drain

35:40 ↗ down at grade and at your feet is that

35:45 ↗ you know they they tend to get plugged a

35:48 ↗ lot and you know little kids will grab a

35:51 ↗ handful of mulch and stick it in the in

35:54 ↗ the dog bowl

35:55 ↗ um and and it can become a a maintenance

35:58 ↗ issue so you know this is something that

36:02 ↗ I'm wanting you know to take back when

36:05 ↗ when we're looking at

36:07 ↗ uh you know different manufacturers and

36:10 ↗ you know

36:12 ↗ coming up with a solution that that will

36:14 ↗ work better than

36:18 ↗ than what's out there right now or

36:20 ↗ what's what's typical right now

36:22 ↗ um so it's it's a really important

36:25 ↗ feature for the dog park so I want to do

36:29 ↗ everything we can just to to pay special

36:31 ↗ attention to it so thanks for that

36:37 ↗ I know we've looked at this when

36:43 ↗ this population are you expecting are

36:45 ↗ you expecting daily 50 dogs 10 dogs 100

36:48 ↗ dogs

36:49 ↗ for that

36:54 ↗ I mean I think it's it's based on the

36:58 ↗ current use I don't think we're

37:00 ↗ expecting hundreds of dogs at this dog

37:03 ↗ park

37:04 ↗ um I think the reality of the size of it

37:06 ↗ and and where it's located is is going

37:08 ↗ to keep it to to the neighborhood and

37:10 ↗ the area that most folks are currently

37:13 ↗ using we're getting a lot of high rises

37:15 ↗ and a lot more people that are need to

37:17 ↗ dog park so yeah

37:23 ↗ the bar had more pop-ups but you could

37:25 ↗ really

37:26 ↗ see a huge population or in there for

37:29 ↗ sure and I think if that is the

37:32 ↗ direction that Issaquah goes it will

37:34 ↗ definitely help inform how we move

37:37 ↗ forward with other dog park plans and

37:40 ↗ and honestly all of our our Park

37:42 ↗ planning

37:43 ↗ plus it's a very good point on your

37:45 ↗ meeting on Thursday did you have a lot

37:47 ↗ of input a lot of people showing

37:49 ↗ interest or did you have a few

37:51 ↗ I would say we had Steve correct me I

37:53 ↗ want to say about like 20 to 25 people

37:55 ↗ over the course of two hours so a few

37:58 ↗ yeah

38:00 ↗ no we did not get 100 calls and I

38:03 ↗ probably had you know 10 to 15 emails

38:08 ↗ well you know the old adage is build it

38:10 ↗ and they will come

38:12 ↗ and so my guess is it's a pretty nice

38:14 ↗ looking design it probably will be

38:16 ↗ certainly more people using this than

38:18 ↗ are using it now so I wouldn't

38:19 ↗ necessarily

38:21 ↗ draw any correlation to what's using it

38:23 ↗ now versus what might use it in the

38:25 ↗ future

38:27 ↗ but also you know it given its location

38:30 ↗ you know there's not really a lot of

38:32 ↗ high rises expected there and it's

38:34 ↗ probably it'll probably affect tidbits

38:36 ↗ in the future more so than this park

38:42 ↗ yeah I wish it were bigger but

38:45 ↗ got what we got

38:49 ↗ I like the neighborhood

38:51 ↗ it keeps Moms new

38:54 ↗ exactly you know I like the multiple

38:57 ↗ approaches it could be good for us as

38:58 ↗ long as we can find them spaces

39:02 ↗ if they end up being self-regulating you

39:04 ↗ know people you know it's always crowded

39:06 ↗ then

39:07 ↗ I can't be able to steer away and that

39:09 ↗ that might just be a good measure of

39:12 ↗ what we need to do in the future

39:15 ↗ oh and yeah with high-rises or higher

39:17 ↗ Rises going in

39:19 ↗ closer to Tibbetts

39:22 ↗ that may be may push decision making

39:24 ↗ that part later

39:30 ↗ anyone else

39:33 ↗ is this a good time to ask for our

39:34 ↗ public comment about the dog parks

39:38 ↗ thanks so much for joining us you're

39:40 ↗ welcome to stay with a couple of

39:42 ↗ comments and then we'll move into our

39:43 ↗ next business

39:51 ↗ uh Corey Christensen uh

39:55 ↗ um anyway so I've been advocating for a

39:57 ↗ dog park in Issaquah for probably 20 25

40:00 ↗ years and I'm at best lukewarm on this

40:04 ↗ particular dog park largely because of

40:08 ↗ the size and if we went back five years

40:12 ↗ ago when we had a robust amount of

40:15 ↗ people coming in and talking about the

40:17 ↗ dog park we had five excuse me we had

40:20 ↗ eight options and this option was one of

40:22 ↗ the first ones that got kicked out of

40:25 ↗ the eight because it was so small and as

40:29 ↗ the group and with the parks department

40:32 ↗ surveys we came up with two acres being

40:37 ↗ in two usable Acres as being sort of the

40:40 ↗ ideal size for a dog park and this is

40:43 ↗ about half an acre and so with that half

40:46 ↗ an acre you still have to start

40:48 ↗ subtracting out the

40:51 ↗ um you know all of the different

40:52 ↗ amenities so it keeps getting smaller

40:55 ↗ and smaller

40:56 ↗ uh that said I understand that we're

40:59 ↗ sort of where we are but I want to throw

41:01 ↗ in one other thing before I dive into

41:03 ↗ this design a little bit just in park

41:05 ↗ planning

41:07 ↗ you know there were a lot of people

41:09 ↗ interested in the dog park five years

41:12 ↗ three years ago and there's only me here

41:14 ↗ right now and that is really falls on

41:18 ↗ the shoulders of the parks department

41:19 ↗ because and this and this isn't just the

41:22 ↗ dog park but Hillside Park the ball

41:24 ↗ field is another one where there was a

41:26 ↗ lot of people and the community

41:28 ↗ engagement needs to still be Outreach to

41:32 ↗ these people that are interested I get

41:34 ↗ no emails from either of these two

41:36 ↗ events and I'm in the friends group for

41:39 ↗ both of them and many other people are

41:41 ↗ as well and I think there's a bit of a

41:43 ↗ problem that some of these decisions

41:44 ↗ like we decide that we're going to have

41:47 ↗ this particular site for the dog park

41:49 ↗ gets made without bringing all the

41:52 ↗ people in to talk about it and because

41:54 ↗ maybe people would say hey look either a

41:57 ↗ this is okay or B maybe we shouldn't go

42:01 ↗ at this small tiny dog park because it's

42:03 ↗ too small and maybe we should

42:06 ↗ look for someplace else somewhere that

42:10 ↗ meets those original criteria anyway

42:13 ↗ that said one

42:15 ↗ One Design part with with field surface

42:20 ↗ is that's been missing in this design is

42:23 ↗ some kind of sand or crushed rock now

42:27 ↗ that is not as sexy but there's reasons

42:31 ↗ for that and if we look at both the

42:34 ↗ Mercer Island Luther Burbank dog park

42:36 ↗ and the bellevue's Robinswood dog park

42:40 ↗ which have both already been remodeled

42:42 ↗ once previously they had Forest Products

42:45 ↗ and mud as far as their surface and both

42:48 ↗ now have

42:50 ↗ Luther Burbank sand Robbins wood a a

42:54 ↗ heavier it's not really rock it's a

42:56 ↗ higher thicker sand and that's what they

42:58 ↗ use now the reason they do that is in

43:01 ↗ dog parks

43:03 ↗ pee poop and water don't mix because

43:07 ↗ what happens is

43:10 ↗ investors and dogs get sick and the

43:14 ↗ problem is with Forest Products any kind

43:17 ↗ of forest product if you don't have

43:19 ↗ really great drainage in the smaller the

43:23 ↗ dog park the more intensified the area

43:26 ↗ of play is and the dogs chew it up beat

43:30 ↗ it up that you end up getting puddles of

43:32 ↗ water

43:33 ↗ and then they get it on their feet and

43:36 ↗ dogs get sick and this and this is the

43:40 ↗ reason that that a lot of these remodels

43:43 ↗ are going for these

43:46 ↗ uh types types of sand or Rock because

43:50 ↗ in a small scenario the Forest Products

43:54 ↗ just don't work matter of fact a great

43:56 ↗ example of that is the

43:59 ↗ Beaver Lake Dog Park in Sammamish they

44:03 ↗ they have had a lot of trouble over the

44:05 ↗ years with the field surface right

44:07 ↗ around their opening place that looks

44:10 ↗ just like the design here a cement area

44:12 ↗ where people walk in stand and the dogs

44:14 ↗ just literally wear the hell out of the

44:18 ↗ this the surface and it and it basically

44:20 ↗ becomes a biohazard and once you once

44:24 ↗ you start having that it's really really

44:26 ↗ difficult to fix it and so my comment is

44:30 ↗ that some of this voting

44:31 ↗ it's a problem because sometimes

44:34 ↗ what is actually the right answer is not

44:37 ↗ actually the answer that sounds like the

44:39 ↗ right answer and that there's underlying

44:41 ↗ reasons like dog health or drainage or

44:45 ↗ in the case of most of these parts we've

44:47 ↗ tried Forest Products every kind of

44:49 ↗ forest product and they just really

44:51 ↗ don't work especially in a small

44:53 ↗ scenario giant parks that have Forest

44:56 ↗ Products for Trails where the dogs

44:58 ↗ aren't you know roughhousing on them

45:00 ↗ it's not their main player it can work

45:02 ↗ but when you're talking about some a

45:05 ↗ small area where there's intensive play

45:08 ↗ you need to look at things like the sand

45:11 ↗ in the gravel and matter of fact this

45:13 ↗ the park we really should be looking at

45:15 ↗ as a model not to exactly copy the whole

45:18 ↗ park is the Robinswood dog park in

45:21 ↗ Bellevue they didn't their extensive

45:23 ↗ remodel their their two acres but their

45:27 ↗ their area that's their play area it's

45:29 ↗ bigger than this but it's not that much

45:32 ↗ bigger and basically what they have is a

45:35 ↗ cement Circle and in the middle of the

45:38 ↗ circle is a heavyweight of sand and that

45:42 ↗ heavy weight of sand is nicer than in

45:44 ↗ some ways than the beef sand that Luther

45:46 ↗ Burbank has because the Luther Burbank

45:49 ↗ sand that sticks to the dogs it's a it

45:52 ↗ it's a uh you know it's it's actually a

45:55 ↗ good play area but it's Messier the

45:57 ↗ Robinswood whatever they've chosen the

46:00 ↗ weight of it it's pretty clean and they

46:02 ↗ don't have a dog washing station and

46:05 ↗ they also don't have a small dog area at

46:07 ↗ Robbins but the main thing is that

46:10 ↗ whatever they did there the drainage

46:12 ↗ works and it's and it's been successful

46:15 ↗ and it and they don't have the standing

46:17 ↗ water water problems anymore and they

46:20 ↗ don't have dogs getting sick anymore

46:23 ↗ the the uh and a comment on this park as

46:27 ↗ far as the trail or whatever going

46:29 ↗ around that really needs to be a cement

46:32 ↗ walkway because virtually all the parks

46:35 ↗ that have been redone

46:37 ↗ again Luther Burbank and Robinswood that

46:42 ↗ trail is is concrete it's a because you

46:46 ↗ have people that are on uh and mothers

46:49 ↗ with baby buggies you occasionally have

46:51 ↗ handicapped people they don't have to be

46:54 ↗ I don't know about the ADA requirements

46:57 ↗ but most of them

46:58 ↗ for roughly four feet wide it may be a

47:01 ↗ little wider but but you but it but it

47:04 ↗ needs to be cement and that actually

47:06 ↗ works to an advantage because then it

47:08 ↗ creates a a surround for whatever

47:12 ↗ surface they they put in the middle so

47:14 ↗ you get a double

47:15 ↗ a double thing and lastly I wanted to

47:18 ↗ Echo uh David's comments and Brad's

47:21 ↗ comment and and actually Marlene's

47:24 ↗ comments about water you have to be

47:27 ↗ really really careful with dog washing

47:29 ↗ stations and the drinking water because

47:33 ↗ any of that water especially if you have

47:35 ↗ Forest Products as your as your surface

47:38 ↗ because whatever water that's that's

47:41 ↗ there is going to end up in those in

47:44 ↗ that surrounding area and the Beaver

47:46 ↗ Lake Dog Park has had a lot of trouble

47:48 ↗ with that matter of fact so much trouble

47:50 ↗ that they used to have a dog washing

47:52 ↗ station they took it out because the

47:54 ↗ water from the dog washing station was

47:57 ↗ was creating a you know essentially the

48:00 ↗ same biohazard the pee the boot and so

48:03 ↗ on

48:03 ↗ around the washing station

48:06 ↗ and some of these drinking fountains the

48:09 ↗ same thing and it's not bark chips that

48:12 ↗ clog them up is that people put the dog

48:15 ↗ poop bags over the drains because the

48:18 ↗ the you know the the bubblers the dogs

48:20 ↗ don't like the bubbler they want to make

48:22 ↗ a bowl out of it and the problem is then

48:24 ↗ that overflows and again you have a

48:27 ↗ water a water problem I think I think it

48:30 ↗ was David's comment about having water

48:33 ↗ separated and maybe a cement surround

48:35 ↗ around it away again from whatever kind

48:38 ↗ of Playfield you had have is a great

48:40 ↗ idea because you don't want any extra

48:42 ↗ water being contributed to the dog park

48:45 ↗ so in conclusion please look at what

48:48 ↗ these other dog barks have done after

48:51 ↗ they've remodeled after they've suffered

48:53 ↗ through some problems and and

48:56 ↗ and again maybe the the heavier

48:59 ↗ sand isn't sexy people might not love it

49:04 ↗ from the beginning but believe me you'll

49:06 ↗ have far less

49:08 ↗ far less headaches

49:09 ↗ because people really get upset when

49:11 ↗ their dogs get sick anyway thank you and

49:14 ↗ good luck

49:16 ↗ thank you for that

49:20 ↗ through the agenda I think we're on to

49:22 ↗ our next

49:24 ↗ I'm gonna get a business item which is

49:29 ↗ correctly correct correct Park

49:32 ↗ Operations Division update very good hi

49:35 ↗ Rick still I'm the park operations

49:38 ↗ manager been here 16 months this

49:41 ↗ Saturday so just over a year about a

49:45 ↗ year and a half then you've been a

49:46 ↗ pretty exciting ride

49:48 ↗ as you know there's a lot of new stuff

49:49 ↗ going on that we've been taking on but

49:52 ↗ uh the whole point of this uh

49:54 ↗ presentation and discussion is tell you

49:56 ↗ about park operations and and how it's

49:58 ↗ changed I don't know when the last time

50:00 ↗ somebody presented on

50:02 ↗ on the park Operations Division so I

50:05 ↗ gave you a lot of information in the

50:08 ↗ packet for you to look at one thing that

50:11 ↗ is new is that there's a can you go next

50:14 ↗ is uh we have a whole new division

50:17 ↗ so team within our division and that's

50:21 ↗ the urban Forest site of the of the

50:24 ↗ department Division and it it includes

50:27 ↗ the urban for a supervisor and park

50:29 ↗ ranger in green Issaquah coordinator the

50:32 ↗ park operations also has grown a little

50:34 ↗ bit uh even since I've been here

50:37 ↗ two weeks after I started we had one new

50:40 ↗ employee and then we just received

50:41 ↗ another one this last year so uh we have

50:45 ↗ a supervisor two leads and then now

50:48 ↗ there's there's ten it's actually nine

50:50 ↗ and three quarters but ten people uh

50:52 ↗ part maintenance workers and and how how

50:55 ↗ we've changed the department is we've

50:57 ↗ looked at the department in different

51:00 ↗ work types so we have routine

51:02 ↗ maintenance schedule maintenance and

51:05 ↗ then reactive maintenance uh some of the

51:07 ↗ questions people have had on reactive is

51:10 ↗ what is that uh well we could see click

51:12 ↗ fix you know the city has that we get

51:14 ↗ calls emails we see vandalism or repairs

51:18 ↗ that need to be done so that's it's not

51:20 ↗ something we're planning on doing and

51:21 ↗ sometimes we have to react right then so

51:23 ↗ slowly reactive uh and then a couple

51:25 ↗ other things that are improve our

51:27 ↗ projects and we've only seen some of

51:28 ↗ those as we've gone over this last year

51:31 ↗ uh at Pickering barn and different

51:34 ↗ places that we've made some little fun

51:36 ↗ improvements to different areas and so

51:38 ↗ we have a section that's just contractor

51:39 ↗ maintenance it's not really huge

51:41 ↗ but it is

51:43 ↗ something that we manage that contract

51:45 ↗ we do all the right-of-way contracts

51:47 ↗ with uh

51:49 ↗ but the yeah all the right-of-way

51:51 ↗ maintenance for the pillow works for the

51:53 ↗ city so and then this this slide just

51:56 ↗ shows you the breakdown of what that

51:58 ↗ means and so what we developed instead

52:00 ↗ of having uh divisions on each side of

52:03 ↗ the the city where you only work here

52:05 ↗ you only work there we've kind of

52:06 ↗ created teams uh we call them Crews we

52:09 ↗ have a mo crew a big crew and a big low

52:12 ↗ smallmo uh so you'll see them out when

52:15 ↗ they're standing on the machine bow and

52:16 ↗ that's the small Smallmouth they're

52:19 ↗ they're sitting on the big mower that's

52:20 ↗ that's the big moment get it pretty easy

52:22 ↗ right

52:24 ↗ um and then we have a round screw that

52:26 ↗ three days a week we we go around to

52:28 ↗ each Park and build a trash cans all the

52:31 ↗ recycle and

52:33 ↗ break play equipment clean the bathroom

52:36 ↗ so we do that three days a week

52:38 ↗ um so that's that's something we do

52:41 ↗ athletic fields is Big especially for

52:43 ↗ another three or four weeks we have a

52:45 ↗ lot of baseball tournaments you have to

52:47 ↗ come out against the lacrosse tournament

52:48 ↗ a few weeks

52:49 ↗ uh this weekend is softball so uh

52:54 ↗ first thing when we get our part-time

52:55 ↗ staff in is we we teach them rounds ball

52:58 ↗ fields

52:59 ↗ um because those are the things that we

53:01 ↗ need support on on the weekends so we

53:03 ↗ try to get one or two people each

53:05 ↗ weekend doing that

53:06 ↗ uh the rest are listed there

53:09 ↗ um it is very seasonal right now we're

53:12 ↗ on our main season uh but fall I'll tell

53:16 ↗ you what there are so many leaves in the

53:18 ↗ city okay we'll talk about that or

53:20 ↗ before how many trees we have well the

53:23 ↗ issue is now we have that many leaves so

53:25 ↗ and then snow removal and that's another

53:27 ↗ reactive penis thing as well

53:30 ↗ um schedule like I think you have seen

53:33 ↗ like a Synthetic Turf maintenance we do

53:35 ↗ that annually it's a big big process

53:38 ↗ they they groom it they fill in low

53:40 ↗ spots they go over it with a big magnet

53:43 ↗ pull any Metals out of it

53:46 ↗ um

53:47 ↗ so that's one thing that we do uh we

53:50 ↗ also have a Turf maintenance program

53:52 ↗ turf management program which we really

53:55 ↗ just have really got back into uh in

53:58 ↗ this last last year and this year even

54:00 ↗ more

54:01 ↗ um where we're aerating every part

54:05 ↗ including Cemetery

54:08 ↗ um and then the fear the places that

54:10 ↗ have irrigation we can uh top top dress

54:15 ↗ which is where you put the sand out

54:16 ↗ overseed where you put seed out you can

54:19 ↗ either sit sleep or actually broadcast

54:22 ↗ see

54:23 ↗ um and those are all things you can do

54:25 ↗ at home so that's a good thing to

54:27 ↗ remember how to treat your yard at home

54:28 ↗ if you

54:29 ↗ if he wants um

54:31 ↗ quartz is a big deal I don't know if you

54:33 ↗ if you have seen the courts uh this last

54:36 ↗ year they're pretty much black as two

54:38 ↗ years since they've cleaned them now

54:41 ↗ Tibbetts field I mean tibbett's of

54:43 ↗ course actually are blue yeah they're

54:45 ↗ pretty nice yeah they were black not

54:47 ↗ supposed to we do have a couple

54:50 ↗ different certifications for our staff

54:51 ↗ one is uh we have pesticides they're all

54:54 ↗ trained in that but the other is

54:56 ↗ playground safety so we have two

54:58 ↗ playground safety inspectors we're

55:00 ↗ trying to get a couple more this fall

55:02 ↗ that's a national testing program so we

55:06 ↗ make sure our playgrounds are safe they

55:08 ↗ do monthly inspections of all our plate

55:10 ↗ limit

55:12 ↗ um

55:16 ↗ so we talked a little bit about approval

55:19 ↗ projects this year I don't know if

55:20 ↗ you've been out to Muirwood uh there's a

55:22 ↗ huge crack going on down the middle so

55:24 ↗ we

55:25 ↗ catch the crack resurfaced it we put

55:27 ↗ more pickleball lines on at TVP uh took

55:31 ↗ them off the mirrorwood

55:32 ↗ um

55:33 ↗ last year we did we resurfaced the

55:35 ↗ Blackberry Court as well

55:41 ↗ oh and and actually there's a picture of

55:44 ↗ the Central Park uh I don't know if you

55:48 ↗ go up there very much but during soccer

55:49 ↗ that street is

55:52 ↗ built to the standard of the

55:53 ↗ neighborhood around it which is too

55:55 ↗ narrow for people dropping people off

55:56 ↗ and two cars waves of traffic so we've

55:59 ↗ moved the center line over painted line

56:02 ↗ painted it yellow to keep people from

56:04 ↗ from parking there and the last time it

56:06 ↗ actually it actually worked it was kind

56:07 ↗ of it was awesome we got it done right

56:09 ↗ before the the big lacrosse tournament

56:11 ↗ so we're anticipating this fall with

56:13 ↗ soccer then it it'll surface purpose uh

56:17 ↗ it says no parking all along that yellow

56:18 ↗ yellow

56:20 ↗ stripe there

56:23 ↗ um some of the things that we we also

56:25 ↗ implemented this year was or last year

56:27 ↗ was uh

56:28 ↗ not just the turf management ball field

56:30 ↗ maintenance routine where we we rototill

56:33 ↗ and greater our infields instead of

56:36 ↗ having a field that looks like this uh

56:40 ↗ literally there was about 9 to 12 inches

56:43 ↗ in spots where second base was lower

56:45 ↗ than

56:46 ↗ second base person position was lower

56:49 ↗ than second and first phase so you know

56:51 ↗ so you know you're trying to get a

56:53 ↗ ground ball you can actually get it

56:54 ↗ where you don't want it instead of your

56:56 ↗ glove so that was a really fun project

56:58 ↗ and we'll continue to it won't nearly be

57:01 ↗ as bad as it was this last year where we

57:03 ↗ had completely tore it up but uh so

57:06 ↗ that's that's a fun project and I went

57:08 ↗ out watched them for about an hour

57:09 ↗ playing tonight before before here was

57:11 ↗ really fun making me want to play again

57:14 ↗ um

57:15 ↗ yeah so right away uh field Turf we

57:18 ↗ talked about that probably a lot of

57:20 ↗ striping yeah so let's go to some of the

57:22 ↗ numbers just real quickly you had a

57:24 ↗ chance to read all this but I just want

57:26 ↗ to give a perspective of what what are

57:29 ↗ nine and three quarters people take care

57:31 ↗ of a brad made reference to it earlier

57:34 ↗ this this year you know what do I have a

57:36 ↗ thousand square feet I can go pull every

57:39 ↗ weed I can you know make my lawn look

57:41 ↗ nice those type of things so we have 52

57:44 ↗ 8 52 Acres of just grass that we

57:48 ↗ maintain that's not the size of it Parks

57:50 ↗ that's the grass or the beds that we

57:53 ↗ have you know right

57:55 ↗ I don't have that much at home either

57:56 ↗ but you know there we have over seven

57:58 ↗ acres of beds so beds are where it's not

58:02 ↗ grass it's Planters bushes flowers

58:05 ↗ that we maintain all the bushes and and

58:09 ↗ uh

58:10 ↗ and try to keep the weeds down which as

58:13 ↗ you know they grow pretty fast

58:16 ↗ lots of trails you see that there

58:19 ↗ contracted maintenance is huge we have

58:22 ↗ almost 12 acres of right away that we

58:24 ↗ maintain it it's not as easy as

58:26 ↗ maintained at a 12 acre park because

58:29 ↗ when you have they're in the middle of

58:31 ↗ traffic so that's you know all of Gilman

58:33 ↗ Boulevard both sides in the middle

58:36 ↗ between the sidewalk and the curb and

58:39 ↗ he's behind that especially like in

58:40 ↗ front of the post office we go all the

58:42 ↗ way back to the trees along the post

58:44 ↗ office so it's a really big area it adds

58:46 ↗ that fast

58:47 ↗ uh

58:50 ↗ some things that why it takes so long

58:53 ↗ for us to do some of our maintenance is

58:54 ↗ there's 109 trash cans that we empty

58:57 ↗ three times a week

58:59 ↗ and then another 51 dogway stations that

59:02 ↗ we have to fill so 11 playgrounds nine

59:06 ↗ bathrooms to clean baseball fields most

59:09 ↗ of them here and then up at Central

59:10 ↗ apartments so and then also on community

59:13 ↗ garden which we try to keep this organic

59:16 ↗ as we can either we burn or we use

59:19 ↗ organic

59:21 ↗ herbicide around the edge

59:25 ↗ salt and sulfur it just kind of kills it

59:28 ↗ doesn't it kills the top but

59:31 ↗ um we have a strong I mean when I first

59:34 ↗ came here it was like wow we have a lot

59:36 ↗ of vehicles

59:38 ↗ we're

59:39 ↗ not all of them are in the system yet

59:41 ↗ there's that ghost Fleet that the city's

59:43 ↗ trying to get rid of we talk about it

59:45 ↗ some other time but we have about 21

59:47 ↗ vehicles and uh

59:49 ↗ 21 and 28 mowers and other equipment so

59:53 ↗ let's stand on right on Bobcats all

59:56 ↗ those different things that we have that

59:58 ↗ it takes to maintain it we're always

1:00:00 ↗ hauling Mulch and stuff so we load we

1:00:02 ↗ get abducted our yard we put them done

1:00:04 ↗ trucks take them out and pass it all out

1:00:06 ↗ so

1:00:07 ↗ one thing that's new this year or last

1:00:09 ↗ year we started a battery program or

1:00:11 ↗ electric electric uh handheld tools

1:00:14 ↗ maintenance

1:00:16 ↗ edgers Lane trimmers uh blower so we got

1:00:19 ↗ the blowers just a month ago holy cow

1:00:23 ↗ I hope you get out and not hear it

1:00:25 ↗ because it is awesome

1:00:27 ↗ they are quieter than the edgers and all

1:00:30 ↗ um you can have a blower over here and

1:00:32 ↗ you can hear it all the way across the

1:00:34 ↗ park you can be really close to this not

1:00:37 ↗ even though it's below it's really cool

1:00:39 ↗ so we're trying to get away with the gas

1:00:41 ↗ and all all that that goes with that the

1:00:44 ↗ maintenance as well as the fuel and

1:00:45 ↗ emissions and going with battery and

1:00:48 ↗ it's been very successful

1:00:50 ↗ they're almost as strong as gas in some

1:00:54 ↗ areas are even better they just go fill

1:00:56 ↗ more batteries to do that

1:00:58 ↗ and then the other forest team started

1:01:01 ↗ out with a Ranger a year and a half ago

1:01:03 ↗ was before I was here so yeah it's been

1:01:06 ↗ a couple years now

1:01:07 ↗ um

1:01:08 ↗ and Peter left and we hired a new person

1:01:11 ↗ his name's Alex he's been awesome and

1:01:14 ↗ then we went out got Urban for a

1:01:15 ↗ supervisor and agreeness coordinator and

1:01:19 ↗ so we I don't know if you keep track of

1:01:21 ↗ that there are events all the time if

1:01:23 ↗ you want to do something just about any

1:01:25 ↗ weekend it seems like there's something

1:01:27 ↗ going on we and we have a lot of

1:01:29 ↗ businesses during the week we have a

1:01:31 ↗ couple this week actually that were out

1:01:34 ↗ there sometimes it's fives this weekend

1:01:36 ↗ sometimes it's 20 we got 100 coming out

1:01:39 ↗ in a couple of weeks that have come out

1:01:41 ↗ and just they just want to volunteer so

1:01:44 ↗ using our business partners for that

1:01:45 ↗ which is really awesome

1:01:48 ↗ um Costco

1:01:50 ↗ REI you know those big names in town

1:01:53 ↗ they're they're coming out and they're

1:01:54 ↗ just wanting to give back to the

1:01:56 ↗ community so

1:01:58 ↗ um Urban Forest this is this is actually

1:02:00 ↗ from Dad the urban Forest it's all

1:02:02 ↗ around us

1:02:04 ↗ yeah he's been been a great ad I know he

1:02:08 ↗ came and talked to you a few few months

1:02:10 ↗ ago uh the three things I want to

1:02:12 ↗ highlight is this estimated 218 000

1:02:14 ↗ trees in the city

1:02:16 ↗ um 1700 Acres that that is under parks

1:02:20 ↗ and open space and the healthy canopy of

1:02:23 ↗ 51 so with the gold to go more

1:02:27 ↗ which can be aren't with development so

1:02:29 ↗ that's something that we're working on

1:02:32 ↗ Dan's in charge of right now uh we've

1:02:35 ↗ gone out for an RFQ to receive

1:02:37 ↗ consultants for urban Forest management

1:02:39 ↗ plan which is awesome or we're just

1:02:42 ↗ starting the scoping process the end of

1:02:44 ↗ this week we'll be scoping what that's

1:02:45 ↗ going to look like and we'll keep a new

1:02:48 ↗ updated on that as we go through the

1:02:49 ↗ year

1:02:52 ↗ I think he's also going to talk to you

1:02:54 ↗ all about the Heritage tree program in a

1:02:56 ↗ couple months right yeah so lots of

1:02:59 ↗ different stuff going on Urban Forest

1:03:01 ↗ the ranger has the four or five

1:03:04 ↗ different things he works on one is

1:03:06 ↗ homeless Outreach one is uh education

1:03:09 ↗ programs and they're doing a lot more of

1:03:11 ↗ those they had another hike this weekend

1:03:13 ↗ uh just taking people out and doing

1:03:15 ↗ educational hikes for our system

1:03:18 ↗ and

1:03:20 ↗ he helps us with piglet shelter rentals

1:03:22 ↗ asked me in the Park office side with

1:03:24 ↗ shelter rentals so we can do ball fields

1:03:27 ↗ and that's been a good good relationship

1:03:30 ↗ um

1:03:31 ↗ enforcement uh

1:03:34 ↗ forcing our rules for Education he's not

1:03:37 ↗ um

1:03:38 ↗ can't give tickets but he can go up and

1:03:40 ↗ talk to you say you know what you need

1:03:41 ↗ your dog on a leash that's probably the

1:03:43 ↗ number one thing that he deals with law

1:03:44 ↗ enforcement uh we have a few we've had a

1:03:47 ↗ few uh

1:03:49 ↗ anxious pickleball players that are out

1:03:52 ↗ at six o'clock in the neighborhoods that

1:03:54 ↗ the neighbors don't like so we've taken

1:03:56 ↗ care of that too a lot of great programs

1:03:59 ↗ going on wait you see 19 just this

1:04:01 ↗ last month I take contacts for that

1:04:03 ↗ and the level of contacts for homeless

1:04:07 ↗ um and if and if there's anything too

1:04:09 ↗ big or he feels unsafe he's always got

1:04:12 ↗ the opportunity to take up our soft

1:04:13 ↗ person so

1:04:15 ↗ um we work really well as a team uh you

1:04:18 ↗ can see the educational programs he has

1:04:20 ↗ there uh the the fun part is we have a

1:04:24 ↗ ptnr in a part-time non-regular it means

1:04:27 ↗ they're basically a part-time worker

1:04:29 ↗ um a seasonal worker for six months and

1:04:32 ↗ her name's Vera she's just awesome that

1:04:35 ↗ gives us the the Sunday Monday when he's

1:04:38 ↗ off covered two so we have

1:04:40 ↗ them both here for a few days a week and

1:04:43 ↗ then all weekends covered too so

1:04:47 ↗ um

1:04:47 ↗ green Issaquah it's a great little photo

1:04:49 ↗ there

1:04:51 ↗ it's a great program we're pretty pretty

1:04:54 ↗ new at it I think it's just like three

1:04:56 ↗ years if I remember

1:04:57 ↗ cream

1:04:59 ↗ people want to give back people want to

1:05:01 ↗ restore uh

1:05:03 ↗ some of us yeah I took my we had it in

1:05:07 ↗ Tech well a green Tukwila and my kids

1:05:09 ↗ just love digging up the blackberries

1:05:11 ↗ they love putting them all down they

1:05:13 ↗ love putting the plant setting well

1:05:15 ↗ that's the whole program pretty much

1:05:16 ↗ right so yeah it was really fun

1:05:19 ↗ um and that order for us you can see the

1:05:22 ↗ numbers there and it every time I'd ask

1:05:25 ↗ them more questions they would they'd go

1:05:27 ↗ oh that's up to date those numbers right

1:05:29 ↗ they're over a thousand volunteer hours

1:05:30 ↗ here today so far just with this last

1:05:33 ↗ weekend so

1:05:35 ↗ um and with some a bird walk coming up

1:05:37 ↗ only a couple people signed up so sign

1:05:40 ↗ up for that one uh

1:05:42 ↗ we're looking for a more for stewards

1:05:44 ↗ too we got a training coming up for that

1:05:46 ↗ and these wonderful individuals will

1:05:49 ↗ organize about 40 events a year and

1:05:53 ↗ they'll get between three or four up to

1:05:56 ↗ 10 or 15 and they just work on the area

1:05:58 ↗ they're focused on so that's kind of

1:06:00 ↗ their job and they they get other people

1:06:02 ↗ enthusia working on so it's a great

1:06:04 ↗ great program

1:06:06 ↗ um and that's that's all I had I hope

1:06:08 ↗ you all read it so I I just was

1:06:10 ↗ reviewing it for you but but if you have

1:06:12 ↗ any questions I'd be glad to answer them

1:06:14 ↗ otherwise thanks for your time

1:06:17 ↗ yes so can I say yes

1:06:20 ↗ you don't want to take that power away

1:06:22 ↗ from Chris this first one yeah

1:06:28 ↗ yeah a couple of things

1:06:30 ↗ um

1:06:30 ↗ how in the world do you manage Staffing

1:06:33 ↗ with seasonal like this I mean do you

1:06:35 ↗ have and during the winter time do you

1:06:36 ↗ have to lay off people like 30 of your

1:06:39 ↗ staff or how does that work well we're

1:06:41 ↗ having a hard time even filling those

1:06:43 ↗ positions so if you know if somebody has

1:06:45 ↗ a heartbeat over 18 year old friend by

1:06:47 ↗ the way uh I don't know yeah uh so yes

1:06:51 ↗ so they work a six-month deal usually so

1:06:54 ↗ the main one is 40 hours away for six

1:06:56 ↗ months so they started March you know

1:06:58 ↗ they or six plus nine right 9th of

1:07:02 ↗ September yeah so we're having a hard

1:07:04 ↗ time feeling that we've filled three

1:07:06 ↗ people right now that are working the

1:07:08 ↗ three days a week for nine months so

1:07:12 ↗ that's so I don't know why that's fit

1:07:15 ↗ into the schedule so you know that's

1:07:18 ↗ that's the best so we have two 40-hour

1:07:19 ↗ weeks and three

1:07:21 ↗ um

1:07:22 ↗ less than 30. some of those people come

1:07:25 ↗ back the following year or is it all new

1:07:27 ↗ crew all the time I mean yeah in the

1:07:30 ↗ past they have come back

1:07:35 ↗ all the time uh and then one we hired

1:07:38 ↗ this year the three-quarter time was

1:07:40 ↗ from last year so

1:07:43 ↗ um

1:07:43 ↗ yeah it's like starting over every year

1:07:46 ↗ that's why we just sticking right on

1:07:48 ↗ training learning rounds learning ball

1:07:50 ↗ fields and then if we get more then they

1:07:52 ↗ learn Mowing and get onto that yeah

1:07:55 ↗ we formed a committee here a few months

1:07:59 ↗ ago to assist with the

1:08:02 ↗ Urban Forest management plan do you have

1:08:06 ↗ any idea timeline when we might get

1:08:08 ↗ started with that

1:08:11 ↗ well we're just having our first scoping

1:08:14 ↗ discussion on Thursday so I'd say in the

1:08:16 ↗ next couple three weeks we'll be able to

1:08:18 ↗ pull a team together to start moving

1:08:22 ↗ forward with it yeah yeah and it's I

1:08:26 ↗ mean I think I saw the anticipation is

1:08:28 ↗ to actually have that plan before

1:08:30 ↗ Council before the end of the year that

1:08:32 ↗ was original yes everybody put in a

1:08:35 ↗ 13-month timeline

1:08:37 ↗ so it'll be 13 months from next month

1:08:41 ↗ yes and we do have Dan coming to talk to

1:08:44 ↗ talk to the park board

1:08:45 ↗ um slated for possibly our August

1:08:47 ↗ meeting to talk about the Heritage tree

1:08:49 ↗ program

1:08:50 ↗ um and and he'll be reaching out as well

1:08:52 ↗ to that ad hockey for that work as well

1:08:55 ↗ as the urban Force thank you good

1:08:58 ↗ yeah

1:08:59 ↗ lots of work thanks yeah

1:09:02 ↗ I got Tim online if you want me

1:09:14 ↗ I hear you oh we can't hear you Tim

1:09:22 ↗ here not muted but perhaps you need to

1:09:27 ↗ connect an audio device

1:09:34 ↗ how about now now we can hear you okay

1:09:38 ↗ yeah that my computer likes to try to

1:09:42 ↗ think my Wi-Fi connector is a microphone

1:09:46 ↗ doesn't work anyway I want first of all

1:09:48 ↗ I want to start off and just apologize

1:09:49 ↗ the board for being late for the meeting

1:09:50 ↗ today

1:09:52 ↗ um second of all thank you for the

1:09:53 ↗ presentation it was very informative and

1:09:56 ↗ third I have a question uh a lot of the

1:09:58 ↗ ball fields as you talked about are very

1:10:00 ↗ well maintained they're beautiful uh see

1:10:03 ↗ a lot of use getting done on them but

1:10:05 ↗ there's some like informal ball field at

1:10:07 ↗ least one by me at Hillside Park there's

1:10:11 ↗ a backstop there's kind of half of a

1:10:12 ↗ home base and maybe a chunk of a

1:10:14 ↗ pitcher's mound and a rudimentary path

1:10:18 ↗ around the basis sort of but it's

1:10:19 ↗ certainly not maintained as a ball field

1:10:21 ↗ in any level and I just wondered where

1:10:24 ↗ that falls in your

1:10:27 ↗ your categories you know it's not really

1:10:29 ↗ a maintained ball field it's but it's

1:10:32 ↗ more than a park I mean there's a

1:10:33 ↗ backstop there's

1:10:35 ↗ the the hints of a ball field being

1:10:38 ↗ there so I just kind of wanted to see

1:10:40 ↗ how that fell into your plan thank you

1:10:43 ↗ and I know there's a lot of improvements

1:10:45 ↗ coming to Hillside Park but this been

1:10:47 ↗ this way for at least the six years I've

1:10:49 ↗ been here thank you

1:10:51 ↗ yeah that's that's great input the uh

1:10:53 ↗ since I've been here it's been a

1:10:55 ↗ designated Wetland so we haven't been

1:10:57 ↗ able to do anything to it uh it will

1:11:00 ↗ still continue as far as I understand

1:11:02 ↗ the designs it will still continue to be

1:11:04 ↗ a casual uh neighborhood ball field

1:11:09 ↗ so we will maintain it like our turf is

1:11:13 ↗ maintained uh it's not proposed for

1:11:16 ↗ irrigation so it's gonna

1:11:18 ↗ it'll be better maintain than it was but

1:11:21 ↗ it's not going to be a real infield real

1:11:23 ↗ waffle it's just a pickup place is my

1:11:26 ↗ understanding yeah

1:11:32 ↗ so I just wanted to say you know thank

1:11:34 ↗ you I spent uh pretty much anytime I'm

1:11:36 ↗ not at work at a baseball field so

1:11:39 ↗ um we were at the big tournament for

1:11:40 ↗ slugfest at Tibbetts and your team was

1:11:43 ↗ really great just like maintaining the

1:11:44 ↗ fields we were trying we were running a

1:11:46 ↗ concession stand and they were helping

1:11:47 ↗ us out with power that we blew and it

1:11:49 ↗ was just a really good experience so

1:11:51 ↗ okay awesome yeah thank you

1:11:58 ↗ thank you thank you

1:12:02 ↗ we have one more regular business item

1:12:04 ↗ which is an ADA transition plan

1:12:07 ↗ yeah we do

1:12:13 ↗ we do share your sleeping patients for

1:12:15 ↗ you

1:12:16 ↗ awesome thank you hasanthi

1:12:19 ↗ uh good evening Park Board it's

1:12:21 ↗ wonderful to see you all excited to be

1:12:23 ↗ here

1:12:25 ↗ um and share with you a little bit about

1:12:26 ↗ the city's Ada transition plan it's

1:12:30 ↗ handy that Rick is also here to listen

1:12:32 ↗ in on this discussion

1:12:34 ↗ um my name is Dale Markey crimp I use

1:12:36 ↗ she her pronouns and I am the

1:12:39 ↗ performance data and Innovation program

1:12:42 ↗ analyst for the City of Issaquah

1:12:45 ↗ um go ahead on something to the next

1:12:47 ↗ slide

1:12:49 ↗ the real purpose of our time together

1:12:51 ↗ tonight is to share a bit of an update

1:12:53 ↗ on the progress that we've made so far

1:12:55 ↗ in putting together our Ada transition

1:12:58 ↗ plan and to gather input from this

1:13:03 ↗ particular board on our current

1:13:06 ↗ prioritization framework and I'll talk a

1:13:08 ↗ little bit more about what I mean by

1:13:09 ↗ that when we get to it in the

1:13:11 ↗ presentation

1:13:13 ↗ before we dive into the transition plan

1:13:16 ↗ in particular I want to give you a

1:13:17 ↗ little bit of a background on the

1:13:20 ↗ Americans with Disabilities Act

1:13:22 ↗ next slide

1:13:24 ↗ so this transition plan has a precedent

1:13:29 ↗ and a requirement in federal and state

1:13:31 ↗ law

1:13:32 ↗ this all origin well it didn't all

1:13:34 ↗ originate but the most recent uh the

1:13:36 ↗ Modern Day origination of the Ada

1:13:38 ↗ transition plan comes from actually the

1:13:40 ↗ Rehabilitation Act which is federal

1:13:41 ↗ legislation passed in the 70s and then

1:13:44 ↗ the Americans with Disabilities Act or

1:13:46 ↗ the Ada passed in 1990.

1:13:49 ↗ that uh the passage of that

1:13:53 ↗ act required that not just

1:13:57 ↗ um not just what I think we're more

1:13:59 ↗ familiar with oftentimes when we talk

1:14:00 ↗ about the Ada which is no discrimination

1:14:03 ↗ in hiring policies but it also really

1:14:06 ↗ required localities

1:14:08 ↗ cities towns counties to identify and

1:14:13 ↗ make a plan to remove physical barriers

1:14:16 ↗ in their communities that would prevent

1:14:18 ↗ individuals with disabilities from fully

1:14:20 ↗ participating in the community

1:14:23 ↗ the City of Issaquah has put together a

1:14:27 ↗ previous Ada transition plan and worked

1:14:29 ↗ on that back in 2014 but that plan

1:14:33 ↗ um for a number of different reasons

1:14:34 ↗ 2014 predates my time at the city but

1:14:38 ↗ from what I've been able to learn for a

1:14:39 ↗ number of different reasons uh didn't

1:14:42 ↗ become something that was really

1:14:44 ↗ embedded into the work plans of our

1:14:46 ↗ various teams and so while we set some

1:14:50 ↗ initial goals on removing barriers to

1:14:54 ↗ participation physical

1:14:56 ↗ and otherwise no we didn't actually make

1:15:00 ↗ a lot of progress on that at the time

1:15:02 ↗ come all the way to the current day

1:15:05 ↗ um and I think the federal government

1:15:06 ↗ has really figured out one way to make

1:15:09 ↗ sure that cities towns municipalities

1:15:11 ↗ localities uh

1:15:14 ↗ create these transition plans create

1:15:16 ↗ these plans to remove barriers

1:15:20 ↗ um and actually start making progress on

1:15:22 ↗ them is to tie Federal uh

1:15:25 ↗ department of transportation funding to

1:15:29 ↗ the dollars to the creation of this plan

1:15:32 ↗ having a plan in place and making

1:15:34 ↗ progress on this plan over the course of

1:15:36 ↗ the upcoming years

1:15:39 ↗ um so Santi if you go on to the next

1:15:40 ↗ slide

1:15:44 ↗ an ADA transition plan

1:15:47 ↗ um

1:15:47 ↗ is simply put a plan that identifies the

1:15:51 ↗ accessibility barriers across our city

1:15:54 ↗ describes the different methods that can

1:15:57 ↗ be used to remove accessibility barriers

1:16:01 ↗ provides a schedule for that removal so

1:16:04 ↗ a timeline and approximation of how much

1:16:07 ↗ money it will cost to make those

1:16:10 ↗ improvements and then also identifies

1:16:13 ↗ public the public official or officials

1:16:15 ↗ that are responsible for implementing

1:16:17 ↗ the plan

1:16:18 ↗ and when we talk about

1:16:20 ↗ accessibility barriers I'm talking about

1:16:22 ↗ two different categories and you can see

1:16:24 ↗ that on the right hand side of this

1:16:25 ↗ slide deck those can be physical

1:16:27 ↗ barriers so public right-of-way curb

1:16:31 ↗ ramps uh Street Crossings having

1:16:36 ↗ um

1:16:37 ↗ why is it the word escaping me right now

1:16:40 ↗ probably because it's 8 20 at night but

1:16:42 ↗ having

1:16:43 ↗ um the push buttons the push buttons

1:16:45 ↗ that don't just

1:16:46 ↗ um that also vibrate and make noise when

1:16:49 ↗ you're able to cross the street so those

1:16:51 ↗ that are hard of hearing or hard of

1:16:52 ↗ sight

1:16:54 ↗ um can still safely move around our city

1:16:56 ↗ it can also mean City buildings so think

1:16:58 ↗ about doors that may not be big enough I

1:17:02 ↗ often think I don't know who who here

1:17:04 ↗ has walked in and out of our Municipal

1:17:06 ↗ Court but I often think about how

1:17:08 ↗ difficult it would be for someone in a

1:17:10 ↗ wheelchair to get through that Municipal

1:17:12 ↗ Court front door which is really close

1:17:14 ↗ together and then once you're through it

1:17:16 ↗ has a very narrow metal detector that

1:17:20 ↗ would make it challenging to enter that

1:17:21 ↗ building

1:17:22 ↗ it also includes city parks and City

1:17:26 ↗ paved and shared use trails

1:17:28 ↗ we're going to talk a bit about those uh

1:17:31 ↗ together in just a minute the other type

1:17:33 ↗ of barriers that this particular plan is

1:17:35 ↗ going to identify and that's new to the

1:17:37 ↗ more recent Ada

1:17:40 ↗ um

1:17:40 ↗ Ada sort of revision that happened in in

1:17:44 ↗ 2010 are also around our Public Services

1:17:47 ↗ programs and activities so not just the

1:17:51 ↗ physical barriers but also the way we

1:17:53 ↗ design our programs uh the way that our

1:17:56 ↗ website is designed the way that we hold

1:18:00 ↗ meetings so that people from that may

1:18:04 ↗ have barriers to participating

1:18:05 ↗ physically are still able to engage in

1:18:08 ↗ the public process

1:18:09 ↗ now you can see there are two things in

1:18:12 ↗ bold tonight we're going to focus

1:18:13 ↗ specifically on the Ada transition plan

1:18:16 ↗ as it pertains to city parks and City

1:18:19 ↗ paved and shared use Trails so on the

1:18:22 ↗ next slide I want to show you a little

1:18:23 ↗ bit about the perk features in

1:18:25 ↗ particular that we're looking at in this

1:18:27 ↗ Ada transition plan we're looking at

1:18:30 ↗ parking and access routes so when you

1:18:33 ↗ pull up to a park in a park parking lot

1:18:36 ↗ do we have handicap accessible spaces

1:18:39 ↗ are those spaces and the pavement next

1:18:43 ↗ to it at a at a

1:18:46 ↗ at a cross ramp that allows for people

1:18:49 ↗ in wheelchairs to move easily through

1:18:52 ↗ the space and then also looking at

1:18:54 ↗ things like play structures and picnic

1:18:56 ↗ tables and the spacing of items in the

1:18:58 ↗ park so if someone's on Wheels can they

1:19:00 ↗ make it around safely around this space

1:19:03 ↗ on the next slide you'll see we're also

1:19:06 ↗ looking at

1:19:07 ↗ the unpaved trail features within our

1:19:10 ↗ perks

1:19:11 ↗ not every single element in every single

1:19:14 ↗ Park is going to be Ada accessible but

1:19:17 ↗ where there are Ada accessible Trail

1:19:19 ↗ segments we're taking a look at are they

1:19:22 ↗ truly accessible do the do does the

1:19:25 ↗ steepness of that area does it is it

1:19:27 ↗ accessible the surface treatments and

1:19:30 ↗ the bridges are those accessible

1:19:33 ↗ and then cert last but certainly not

1:19:35 ↗ least we're also looking at sidewalk and

1:19:39 ↗ shared use Trail features on this next

1:19:41 ↗ slide and a couple examples that you can

1:19:43 ↗ see

1:19:44 ↗ um you can see on the left an example of

1:19:46 ↗ something that does not meet our Ada

1:19:48 ↗ standards so examples of places where

1:19:51 ↗ pavement has um

1:19:53 ↗ sort of upheaved or cracked open due to

1:19:56 ↗ vegetation we know trees and pavement

1:19:58 ↗ are in are in constant battle but

1:20:01 ↗ looking at that that image on the left

1:20:03 ↗ um so it could be some dangerous terrain

1:20:05 ↗ for someone who might be not as

1:20:07 ↗ sure-footed or someone who might be

1:20:08 ↗ using Wheels to move around rather than

1:20:11 ↗ um rather than walking and then also

1:20:13 ↗ we're looking at wheelchair passing and

1:20:15 ↗ bench spaces you know is there space for

1:20:18 ↗ wheelchairs to move

1:20:19 ↗ um through our paved portions of our

1:20:22 ↗ parks

1:20:23 ↗ so with this little bit of background

1:20:26 ↗ knowledge and knowing that that's what

1:20:28 ↗ the the plan itself is going to focus on

1:20:30 ↗ is identifying the current barriers in

1:20:33 ↗ those various areas within the park

1:20:35 ↗ I would like to share a little bit about

1:20:37 ↗ the current proposal for how we

1:20:39 ↗ prioritize barrier removal in this plan

1:20:43 ↗ um it's important that we

1:20:45 ↗ don't simply make a list and say okay

1:20:47 ↗ what do we want to go first but that

1:20:48 ↗ we're able to provide some criteria to

1:20:51 ↗ evaluate all of our perks by

1:20:54 ↗ um and figure out through that criteria

1:20:56 ↗ the order in which our team is going to

1:20:59 ↗ prioritize removing barriers we use the

1:21:02 ↗ four criteria currently this these are

1:21:04 ↗ four criteria that are commonly used so

1:21:07 ↗ if you look at Ada transition plans from

1:21:10 ↗ jurisdictions in our region they're also

1:21:13 ↗ using these criteria

1:21:15 ↗ um and I haven't seen I've done a little

1:21:17 ↗ bit of research in addition to what our

1:21:20 ↗ um what our consultant has shared with

1:21:22 ↗ us I haven't seen a lot of other

1:21:25 ↗ criteria being used in this process but

1:21:28 ↗ the order of the criteria could be

1:21:30 ↗ something for us to discuss in just a

1:21:32 ↗ moment we're using these four one is the

1:21:35 ↗ proximity to or part of a current city

1:21:38 ↗ project so whether that be something

1:21:40 ↗ outlined in our Capital Improvement plan

1:21:42 ↗ or in the park strategic plan if it's

1:21:45 ↗ some something we're already planning

1:21:47 ↗ to a location we're already planning to

1:21:50 ↗ make improvements on we'd love to build

1:21:52 ↗ those Ada improvements into that planned

1:21:54 ↗ work because that's going to maximize

1:21:56 ↗ the resources we have to use and it's

1:21:58 ↗ going to ensure that we're not you know

1:22:00 ↗ maybe ripping up sidewalk in one area

1:22:03 ↗ only to come back two years later for a

1:22:05 ↗ for a much larger redesign of a space

1:22:08 ↗ the second Criterion we're we're

1:22:10 ↗ considering in this is the proximity to

1:22:12 ↗ likely Ada destinations so not only are

1:22:16 ↗ parks and trails themselves already a

1:22:18 ↗ destination but if there are locations

1:22:20 ↗ that are closer to other element other

1:22:23 ↗ places of interest across the city we

1:22:25 ↗ want to make sure that if if folks are

1:22:27 ↗ going to be going to those locations

1:22:28 ↗ that also is factored into whether or

1:22:32 ↗ not that's a place that we prioritize

1:22:33 ↗ making those barrier removals

1:22:37 ↗ third the third Criterion is ADA

1:22:39 ↗ compliance and condition grade so our

1:22:42 ↗ our partner in this work Transportation

1:22:45 ↗ Solutions Incorporated has already gone

1:22:48 ↗ around and done the self-evaluation of

1:22:50 ↗ all of our perks and we'll get to that

1:22:51 ↗ in just a moment and they've looked to

1:22:53 ↗ see where

1:22:56 ↗ elements are not compliant or are

1:22:58 ↗ missing and where elements are in poor

1:23:01 ↗ condition

1:23:02 ↗ medium condition or better condition and

1:23:06 ↗ so of course generally we want to say

1:23:08 ↗ that things that are in the poorest

1:23:09 ↗ condition or the most non-compliant we

1:23:12 ↗ want those to be prioritized but again

1:23:15 ↗ we don't want that to be the only thing

1:23:16 ↗ guiding the work that we do

1:23:19 ↗ and then number four certainly not least

1:23:21 ↗ is public feedback uh at the outset of

1:23:25 ↗ this uh project we ran a public survey

1:23:28 ↗ we've also done some targeted Outreach

1:23:31 ↗ to interest groups across the city

1:23:34 ↗ um our adaptive Recreation participants

1:23:36 ↗ have been a targeted group that we've

1:23:38 ↗ really sought to get more feedback from

1:23:41 ↗ them around where their children are

1:23:44 ↗ spending time and then also through the

1:23:47 ↗ senior center we've been in conversation

1:23:49 ↗ with community members for the senior

1:23:51 ↗ center about where are also where where

1:23:54 ↗ are particular locations that we'd like

1:23:56 ↗ to see improvements we're of course here

1:23:58 ↗ tonight talking to you and we'll also be

1:24:00 ↗ visiting the transportation Advisory

1:24:02 ↗ Board and we've visited and we'll be

1:24:04 ↗ visiting again our Equity board to get

1:24:06 ↗ additional input but these are the four

1:24:08 ↗ criteria that we're using currently to

1:24:12 ↗ make

1:24:13 ↗ um to make prioritization decisions

1:24:15 ↗ about the order of barrier removal

1:24:19 ↗ with that in mind I want to show you the

1:24:21 ↗ the priori the priority uh in order uh

1:24:25 ↗ that that these criteria came up with

1:24:27 ↗ for both our shared use trails and our

1:24:31 ↗ Parks uh the first one here is going to

1:24:33 ↗ be our prioritization for parks

1:24:36 ↗ we did evaluations for 19 parks there

1:24:39 ↗ were 11 perks that were not evaluated

1:24:41 ↗ due to the reasons you can see here in

1:24:44 ↗ the slide deck they're either new

1:24:46 ↗ they already have planned reservation

1:24:48 ↗ Renovations there are no public

1:24:51 ↗ amenities

1:24:53 ↗ or they're an undeveloped open space so

1:24:55 ↗ it's not necessarily a space where we're

1:24:57 ↗ inviting people to move through right

1:24:59 ↗ now we're really focused on parks that

1:25:01 ↗ were already are developed and intended

1:25:04 ↗ for people to be in and have

1:25:07 ↗ have elements that are and amenities

1:25:10 ↗ that are intended for accessibility

1:25:13 ↗ so of the parks that we did evaluate you

1:25:16 ↗ can see down here the high priority

1:25:18 ↗ parks that came out of the criteria on

1:25:20 ↗ the previous slide led to a high

1:25:23 ↗ priority for three different parks

1:25:26 ↗ Salmon Run Nature Park squawk Valley

1:25:28 ↗ North Park and tradition plateau

1:25:32 ↗ the same criteria led to a

1:25:34 ↗ prioritization of four in the middle and

1:25:36 ↗ 12 other Parks but those three that are

1:25:39 ↗ there in Gold are the high priority

1:25:42 ↗ parks that came out of that process

1:25:45 ↗ I want to also show you the

1:25:46 ↗ prioritization for our shared use Trails

1:25:48 ↗ using again the same four criteria

1:25:51 ↗ so we completed evaluations for seven

1:25:54 ↗ shared use trails Issaquah Highlands and

1:25:57 ↗ Central Park Falls Drive Trails were not

1:25:59 ↗ evaluated as I mentioned before there

1:26:01 ↗ are some places that because of the

1:26:04 ↗ grade of the space they're simply not

1:26:07 ↗ going to be accessible we there's not a

1:26:09 ↗ lot we can do to make those spaces more

1:26:10 ↗ accessible so those were not included

1:26:13 ↗ however of the seven that we evaluated

1:26:16 ↗ the highest priority based on the

1:26:19 ↗ criteria on the previous slide was the

1:26:21 ↗ Pickering Trail medium priority is

1:26:24 ↗ Gilman Boulevard Parkway Maple Juniper

1:26:26 ↗ Trail and Rainier Trail and the lower

1:26:28 ↗ priorities were Newport Way Trail

1:26:30 ↗ Sammamish Trail and Anthology Trail

1:26:33 ↗ so at this point I'm gonna hush up a

1:26:37 ↗ little bit and I love to hear from you

1:26:40 ↗ all

1:26:41 ↗ does this prioritization framework make

1:26:44 ↗ sense do those four criteria make sense

1:26:49 ↗ does the order of recommended barrier

1:26:51 ↗ removal does that

1:26:52 ↗ does that jive does that make sense and

1:26:55 ↗ are there any exceptions to the

1:26:57 ↗ prioritization that you feel should be

1:26:58 ↗ noted and considered as both the

1:27:02 ↗ consultant and our team here at the city

1:27:04 ↗ is finalizing our plan in the coming

1:27:07 ↗ weeks and months

1:27:18 ↗ you want to go back to the list yeah

1:27:21 ↗ look at

1:27:24 ↗ or priority

1:27:29 ↗ for the projects

1:27:41 ↗ well Dead Silence here I'll uh speaker

1:27:44 ↗ up here a little bit just to get the

1:27:45 ↗ ball rolling um

1:27:50 ↗ where you've prioritized it I mean it's

1:27:53 ↗ a little hard to tell from this in terms

1:27:55 ↗ of any timelines for this which is

1:27:58 ↗ something I guess that I would have as a

1:27:59 ↗ question

1:28:00 ↗ um

1:28:01 ↗ you know one thing I didn't see here it

1:28:04 ↗ might fall within a part strategic plan

1:28:05 ↗ is you know a big Focus

1:28:07 ↗ that we put together with the park

1:28:09 ↗ strategic plan now five years ago was

1:28:12 ↗ corridors being the Mount of sound

1:28:15 ↗ Greenway Corridor and the uh Issaquah

1:28:18 ↗ Creek Corridor and so I think those two

1:28:22 ↗ corridors should take some element of

1:28:25 ↗ priority or or make mention of them

1:28:28 ↗ because I think that that's going to be

1:28:31 ↗ two major uh future corridors of people

1:28:35 ↗ that are going to need to move through

1:28:37 ↗ the city and

1:28:39 ↗ and I guess I would

1:28:41 ↗ you know I would make mention at least

1:28:43 ↗ of those two corridors

1:28:46 ↗ where they fall on the prioritization I

1:28:48 ↗ mean a lot of this is still in the

1:28:50 ↗ in requiring land and a lot of different

1:28:52 ↗ phases of it but at least I think that

1:28:54 ↗ should be at least mentioned

1:28:57 ↗ excellent thank you

1:29:04 ↗ form of a question I think

1:29:07 ↗ you mentioned you and

1:29:08 ↗ you had adaptive play group or and I'm

1:29:12 ↗ curious a little bit about the

1:29:13 ↗ prioritization sort of our our youngest

1:29:16 ↗ sort of users of the parks like I think

1:29:18 ↗ a good example is in Tibbetts where we

1:29:20 ↗ have the Adaptive swing which is great

1:29:22 ↗ but like I think it's hard to get into

1:29:24 ↗ that playground right so I was just

1:29:27 ↗ curious when we

1:29:28 ↗ thought about sort of the different user

1:29:31 ↗ groups sort of how that came into the

1:29:33 ↗ prioritization

1:29:35 ↗ that's a great question

1:29:38 ↗ um I

1:29:40 ↗ I will say

1:29:42 ↗ um I don't think we

1:29:44 ↗ I guess I I I don't think that I've been

1:29:47 ↗ thinking a lot about how to prioritize

1:29:50 ↗ the different user groups

1:29:53 ↗ um honestly it's been a real effort just

1:29:55 ↗ to really get people to weigh in on this

1:29:57 ↗ has been my my biggest

1:29:59 ↗ um my biggest effort is just hey please

1:30:01 ↗ please give me your feedback

1:30:03 ↗ um I came across someone in a in a

1:30:05 ↗ wheelchair moving through one of our

1:30:07 ↗ moving through Confluence Park the other

1:30:08 ↗ day and I sort of said hey would you

1:30:10 ↗ mind if I ask you some questions I'm

1:30:12 ↗ doing everything I can just to get

1:30:13 ↗ people to respond to my emails and show

1:30:15 ↗ up to public meetings it's nice to have

1:30:16 ↗ a crowd that already had to be here

1:30:18 ↗ tonight to talk to

1:30:21 ↗ um

1:30:22 ↗ yeah

1:30:24 ↗ captive late night audience so I haven't

1:30:27 ↗ um I haven't thought about sort of the

1:30:30 ↗ different priorities of the different

1:30:32 ↗ user groups it's more been getting as

1:30:34 ↗ much absolutely as much input as we can

1:30:36 ↗ get and naturally this might sit

1:30:39 ↗ underneath your question naturally some

1:30:41 ↗ of that interest is in uh direct

1:30:44 ↗ conflict with each other I think a great

1:30:46 ↗ example and for anyone that wants to

1:30:48 ↗ Leaf through the the final draft of the

1:30:51 ↗ plan as it comes up in in future Council

1:30:54 ↗ committee meetings you'll see you'll see

1:30:56 ↗ our the results of our community survey

1:30:59 ↗ about this where some people said you

1:31:01 ↗ know I don't know what that surface is

1:31:03 ↗ that's on the on the uh Lake Sammamish

1:31:06 ↗ State Park play area but I love it I

1:31:09 ↗ think it's so great for kids that have

1:31:11 ↗ mobility issues and then maybe two

1:31:13 ↗ responses later someone said that Lake

1:31:16 ↗ Sam surface is just absolutely the worst

1:31:18 ↗ I just I can't deal with it it's it's a

1:31:21 ↗ sensory overload and so we are

1:31:23 ↗ definitely seeing conflicting

1:31:26 ↗ um priorities from different users but I

1:31:30 ↗ wouldn't necessarily say it's by group I

1:31:32 ↗ actually think it's a little bit more

1:31:33 ↗ personalized by disability

1:31:35 ↗ um and so that's been something we're

1:31:36 ↗ really having to think about is that you

1:31:38 ↗ know we're not going to remove the

1:31:39 ↗ barrier the exact right way for everyone

1:31:41 ↗ but we need to make sure across all of

1:31:45 ↗ our potential parks that we've got

1:31:46 ↗ something that works for everyone maybe

1:31:48 ↗ it's just not not in every Park but I

1:31:51 ↗ think it's a really good push on

1:31:52 ↗ thinking about the conflicting interest

1:31:54 ↗ potentially of different user groups I'm

1:31:56 ↗ going to keep that in mind as we move

1:31:58 ↗ forward

1:31:59 ↗ okay so it might be nice to even think

1:32:00 ↗ about you know if there was a park that

1:32:02 ↗ is about to be remodeled do we want to

1:32:04 ↗ make it like this gold standard and it

1:32:07 ↗ becomes more of a destination

1:32:09 ↗ and that way for adaptive play or you

1:32:12 ↗ know I just think we should just kind of

1:32:13 ↗ think through how we think through all

1:32:15 ↗ of our stakeholder groups in that way

1:32:16 ↗ and you're right you can't please

1:32:18 ↗ everyone everywhere but maybe we can

1:32:19 ↗ focus some efforts in specific places

1:32:21 ↗ and make really great

1:32:23 ↗ amenities

1:32:25 ↗ I love that yes

1:32:31 ↗ Nicholas and then Tim

1:32:36 ↗ oh thank you and Tim looks like you have

1:32:39 ↗ two hands raised so yeah

1:32:43 ↗ I wouldn't buy that alone

1:32:46 ↗ um one question about the you know just

1:32:48 ↗ largely number one and then maybe some

1:32:51 ↗ thoughts about this and since it's just

1:32:52 ↗ a framework portion of what you had a

1:32:54 ↗ multi-part question there so it's always

1:32:55 ↗ hard to get through all that but the

1:32:58 ↗ first

1:32:59 ↗ um section in our CIP

1:33:02 ↗ I mean a question a bit about that

1:33:04 ↗ because you're are you not are we not

1:33:06 ↗ bound by the amount of funding then to

1:33:08 ↗ accomplish goals or if we align on the

1:33:10 ↗ capital plan as a question

1:33:13 ↗ and then the second I would just I'm

1:33:15 ↗ just going to Echo what Marlene said

1:33:16 ↗ which is trying to Center

1:33:19 ↗ um you know marginalized groups or

1:33:20 ↗ finding ways that we can include people

1:33:23 ↗ that are historically excluded I think

1:33:25 ↗ is kind of the point of all this work

1:33:27 ↗ maybe I'm misreading I mean I didn't

1:33:30 ↗ read the Ada plan or anything like that

1:33:31 ↗ or what comes out from the government

1:33:33 ↗ but at least that's how um you know I

1:33:36 ↗ think about how our Capital plan might

1:33:37 ↗ be better at serving the equity loans

1:33:40 ↗ you know that's one of the ways that I

1:33:42 ↗ like to think about it

1:33:45 ↗ yeah I agree with you on the second

1:33:47 ↗ Point could you could you repeat your

1:33:49 ↗ first question I'm not sure Nicholas

1:33:51 ↗ that I fully understood it

1:33:53 ↗ oh sure just that if our first criteria

1:33:56 ↗ and I don't know if these are in rank

1:33:58 ↗ order or these are just four frameworked

1:34:00 ↗ portions but if you know the first thing

1:34:02 ↗ we look at is only being able to impact

1:34:03 ↗ things that are within the CIP

1:34:06 ↗ or budgeted I mean you basically get a

1:34:10 ↗ bit restricted by those things that have

1:34:12 ↗ money behind them this was my commentary

1:34:15 ↗ about the CIP criteria from

1:34:17 ↗ the town hall session we had up in the

1:34:20 ↗ highlands there which was talking a

1:34:23 ↗ little bit more about stripping money

1:34:25 ↗ away from the construct of

1:34:26 ↗ prioritization and then adding it back

1:34:28 ↗ in when you're looking to fun things

1:34:29 ↗ otherwise you chase the dollar right the

1:34:31 ↗ dollar gets a vote and funding sources

1:34:34 ↗ get to influence Community attributes

1:34:36 ↗ and I think it should be the community

1:34:37 ↗ that influences the attributes and the

1:34:39 ↗ money that then is found to follow even

1:34:41 ↗ if it's through taxes or whatever other

1:34:44 ↗ mechanisms the city has

1:34:46 ↗ yeah I mean that's a great point I I

1:34:49 ↗ appreciate your your sort of uh

1:34:52 ↗ philosophical turning around of of the

1:34:54 ↗ way I think we think about incremental

1:34:56 ↗ budgeting you know that's that's such an

1:34:59 ↗ old school it's such an old school way

1:35:00 ↗ to approach it but it is in many ways

1:35:02 ↗ the way we off we do it over and over

1:35:04 ↗ and over again

1:35:05 ↗ um I wouldn't say that this is

1:35:07 ↗ necessarily although it's got numbers

1:35:09 ↗ next to it but I do think the way that

1:35:12 ↗ um as someone who's not necessarily

1:35:15 ↗ making decisions about what goes into

1:35:17 ↗ the CIP but thinking about how can we

1:35:20 ↗ get these improvements made

1:35:22 ↗ if it's approved in the CIP those are

1:35:25 ↗ some great opportunities for us to make

1:35:27 ↗ sure that the Ada improvements are being

1:35:30 ↗ done when any sort of changes to those

1:35:32 ↗ spaces are being done so it's definitely

1:35:34 ↗ something right now we're weighing

1:35:36 ↗ pretty heavily but I appreciate the push

1:35:38 ↗ to maybe uh

1:35:40 ↗ decrease the weight of that Criterion

1:35:44 ↗ um and what the plan itself comes out

1:35:47 ↗ and says should be the priority

1:35:50 ↗ um yeah yeah that that is thank you for

1:35:52 ↗ restating that and I just say that I

1:35:54 ↗ know there's another Park Board member I

1:35:56 ↗ will forget exactly who who like loves

1:35:59 ↗ the construct of Leverage and so I think

1:36:02 ↗ that you know to counter my own point

1:36:03 ↗ you know Leverage is important as well

1:36:05 ↗ absolutely

1:36:08 ↗ thank you

1:36:15 ↗ okay

1:36:16 ↗ yeah I'll go thank you for the

1:36:18 ↗ presentation

1:36:19 ↗ um is very useful and it's not uh

1:36:25 ↗ a area in which I've spent a lot of time

1:36:27 ↗ thinking but you touched on something

1:36:30 ↗ just a few minutes ago about user groups

1:36:32 ↗ and what I have my question is around

1:36:35 ↗ the various types of disability disabled

1:36:39 ↗ groups that we want to serve in Issaquah

1:36:43 ↗ do you have any data on you know what

1:36:47 ↗ are the populations that are the most

1:36:49 ↗ represented with disabilities in our

1:36:51 ↗ area and therefore you could potentially

1:36:54 ↗ use that information to try to you know

1:36:57 ↗ adjust the prioritization of what you're

1:37:00 ↗ going to do

1:37:02 ↗ that's a great push and I I've looked at

1:37:05 ↗ some very general American Community

1:37:07 ↗ survey and census level identification

1:37:10 ↗ of disabilities across our community

1:37:13 ↗ were as as anyone that's dug into any of

1:37:16 ↗ that data knows it's really difficult to

1:37:20 ↗ learn a lot from that it kind of sits in

1:37:22 ↗ big old buckets

1:37:24 ↗ um and then you say okay well I kind of

1:37:27 ↗ know but what do I do with this and so a

1:37:29 ↗ lot of my Approach has been taking that

1:37:30 ↗ and then doing some more I would say

1:37:33 ↗ focused pursuit of

1:37:35 ↗ more um

1:37:38 ↗ less quantitative more qualitative

1:37:40 ↗ conversation with whether it be our

1:37:43 ↗ adaptive Recreation group folks that

1:37:46 ↗ come through our senior center and also

1:37:48 ↗ using by proxy folks that work with

1:37:50 ↗ populations in our communities so we did

1:37:52 ↗ Outreach to a number of organizations

1:37:56 ↗ across Issaquah that work with

1:37:58 ↗ individuals with disabilities and got

1:38:00 ↗ some input from them as well throughout

1:38:02 ↗ this process

1:38:03 ↗ members from atwork attended our

1:38:06 ↗ in-person open house and gave some

1:38:09 ↗ insight as well we've also shared drafts

1:38:13 ↗ with a few of those organizations for

1:38:14 ↗ them to take a look and give us some

1:38:16 ↗ additional feedback it hasn't changed

1:38:21 ↗ um

1:38:22 ↗ it's not that it hasn't changed it's

1:38:24 ↗ been really helpful I don't think it's

1:38:27 ↗ led us to a different current

1:38:29 ↗ prioritization than we would have come

1:38:31 ↗ to in the first place

1:38:33 ↗ um I think that's the real challenge we

1:38:35 ↗ also serve a lot of individuals that are

1:38:37 ↗ outside of our community that come into

1:38:40 ↗ Issaquah specifically to access programs

1:38:42 ↗ because we specifically within our rec

1:38:44 ↗ department have done such a great job

1:38:46 ↗ historically

1:38:47 ↗ and although we might not have the gold

1:38:49 ↗ standard uh play play place yet there

1:38:53 ↗ are some of our Park facilities are

1:38:55 ↗ definitely much more accessible than

1:38:56 ↗ those around us and so we're serving a

1:38:59 ↗ community even greater than what I can

1:39:01 ↗ pull from our from our sort of the

1:39:04 ↗ quantitative data that sits within the

1:39:06 ↗ census and the ACs

1:39:08 ↗ um so it's it's been imperfect Tim I

1:39:11 ↗ guess is my answer I've made an attempt

1:39:14 ↗ um but that's why it's good we still

1:39:15 ↗ have a few more months to be working on

1:39:17 ↗ this because I think there's definitely

1:39:18 ↗ an opportunity to to learn a bit more

1:39:21 ↗ both as as we think about the plan and

1:39:25 ↗ we haven't even gotten to the point of

1:39:26 ↗ thinking about as we think about the

1:39:27 ↗ implementation of any decisions we make

1:39:30 ↗ um so we're really right now even just

1:39:32 ↗ talking about how do we prioritize the

1:39:35 ↗ barrier removal not necessarily it'll be

1:39:38 ↗ it'll be the job of of this Parks

1:39:40 ↗ planning team that hasanti keeps

1:39:42 ↗ referring to uh to really think about

1:39:44 ↗ then what does the barrier removal and

1:39:47 ↗ any sort of improvement itself look like

1:39:49 ↗ when we get to that point

1:39:52 ↗ okay great yeah thank you I you know I

1:39:54 ↗ just like with anything to serve a

1:39:57 ↗ population you have to understand and

1:39:58 ↗ know a population so uh yeah it sounds

1:40:01 ↗ like you're doing your best to try to

1:40:03 ↗ get some insights into what that looks

1:40:05 ↗ like well thank you

1:40:08 ↗ thanks

1:40:13 ↗ uh yeah actually I think that'd be good

1:40:14 ↗ information and then take it from the

1:40:16 ↗ Outreach to actually see what parks are

1:40:19 ↗ being uh most utilized by that group of

1:40:22 ↗ people or you know where they would like

1:40:24 ↗ to actually see things being done

1:40:28 ↗ you know that that would be a lot better

1:40:30 ↗ than any of us trying to guess what that

1:40:33 ↗ might look like so one of my questions

1:40:35 ↗ really focuses around funding I mean

1:40:38 ↗ I've been working with the state park a

1:40:40 ↗ good bit about a lot of ADA compliance

1:40:43 ↗ with some of the developments at the

1:40:45 ↗ lake Savannah State Park and it seems

1:40:47 ↗ like there's an awful lot of of funding

1:40:50 ↗ available through the federal government

1:40:53 ↗ or ADA compliance and sometimes it's

1:40:57 ↗ good to know what that funding might

1:40:59 ↗ look like so that you can then factor

1:41:02 ↗ that into what you're able to do you

1:41:05 ↗ know rather than to build it from the

1:41:07 ↗ ground up you know we want to do this

1:41:08 ↗ and this and this so how are we going to

1:41:10 ↗ get the funding and then if you don't

1:41:11 ↗ have the ability to get the funding it

1:41:13 ↗ was all like you know so what did we go

1:41:15 ↗ through that process for whereas if you

1:41:17 ↗ actually see you know all of the

1:41:20 ↗ potential available funding uh sources

1:41:23 ↗ out there that it then enables you to uh

1:41:26 ↗ you know factor that into whatever your

1:41:28 ↗ priorities might be

1:41:32 ↗ I think that's a well well made point I

1:41:35 ↗ made a made a note to follow up with our

1:41:37 ↗ consultant specifically about

1:41:38 ↗ identifying some of those opportunities

1:41:40 ↗ for us

1:41:47 ↗ just one last question I guess can you

1:41:50 ↗ give us a little more background on sort

1:41:53 ↗ of the requirements for improvement so

1:41:54 ↗ you noted before that you know Wiz dot

1:41:56 ↗ or even for the pass-through funding

1:41:58 ↗ what are we looking at are we looking at

1:42:00 ↗ just looking at the high priority ones

1:42:02 ↗ are we eventually going to hit all of

1:42:04 ↗ them over five ten year period

1:42:07 ↗ um just trying to get some more

1:42:08 ↗ background

1:42:08 ↗ totally

1:42:10 ↗ um so this is this is meant to be a

1:42:12 ↗ medium term to to slightly longer term

1:42:15 ↗ plan we need to identify what we're

1:42:18 ↗ putting dollars towards in the near term

1:42:20 ↗ so specifically in the next

1:42:23 ↗ you know whether it be the next five

1:42:25 ↗ years uh we can often use our CIP as we

1:42:31 ↗ can identify what projects from the CIP

1:42:32 ↗ we're already putting dollars towards

1:42:34 ↗ and what Ada improvements need to be

1:42:36 ↗ made within those those potential Parks

1:42:39 ↗ or potential facilities

1:42:41 ↗ um or curb ramps if you get to public

1:42:44 ↗ right-of-way and we have those estimates

1:42:46 ↗ usually for the next seven years and

1:42:49 ↗ then so those are our sort of near and

1:42:50 ↗ medium term and then saying after that

1:42:53 ↗ seven year period we we will still need

1:42:56 ↗ to make improvements in these additional

1:42:58 ↗ projects and so the plan for us will be

1:43:00 ↗ to identify what we're planning to do in

1:43:03 ↗ the next seven years with the intent of

1:43:05 ↗ what will come after those seven years

1:43:06 ↗ and how many dollars we'll still need to

1:43:08 ↗ spend so this is going to be a little

1:43:10 ↗ bit of a partner to it's going to always

1:43:13 ↗ be a little bit of a partner to a CIP

1:43:14 ↗ because so many of the projects whether

1:43:17 ↗ they're public right-of-way Parks or

1:43:19 ↗ facilities show up in that planning as

1:43:22 ↗ well

1:43:23 ↗ um the plan for us to obtain you know

1:43:26 ↗ the the goal of this is to create

1:43:29 ↗ to make sure that our city is the most

1:43:31 ↗ inclusive and welcoming place it can be

1:43:33 ↗ it's not simply to meet the the sort of

1:43:35 ↗ washed out requirements however Simply

1:43:37 ↗ Having the plan

1:43:40 ↗ um is what's required having the plan

1:43:42 ↗ and providing an annual progress report

1:43:45 ↗ and so I haven't met with Rick yet about

1:43:48 ↗ this but we'll be meeting soon to talk

1:43:49 ↗ about what that

1:43:51 ↗ um annual tracking looks like and how

1:43:53 ↗ we're going to be sharing progress

1:43:55 ↗ um annually with the community

1:43:57 ↗ as we make make improvements that are in

1:44:00 ↗ the plan

1:44:01 ↗ okay thank you

1:44:03 ↗ absolutely

1:44:08 ↗ I have a few things to add

1:44:10 ↗ um

1:44:12 ↗ uh the lake Spanish playground was

1:44:15 ↗ mentioned and Brad and I

1:44:18 ↗ wear another participated in that

1:44:21 ↗ and even though new projects uh are

1:44:25 ↗ require required to meet new

1:44:26 ↗ requirements

1:44:27 ↗ and our current requirements and that

1:44:29 ↗ generally makes a new development better

1:44:31 ↗ for accessibility than something 20

1:44:34 ↗ years old or so uh it took a conscious

1:44:37 ↗ decision on that project an overt

1:44:41 ↗ statement that it was going to be all

1:44:43 ↗ accessible

1:44:44 ↗ and

1:44:46 ↗ also acknowledging you know as that said

1:44:48 ↗ that it was going to add

1:44:50 ↗ I don't know a couple hundred thousand

1:44:51 ↗ more dollars or something in price tag

1:44:54 ↗ um and that's an example that that is a

1:44:57 ↗ million dollar playground literally and

1:45:00 ↗ but it's awesome

1:45:03 ↗ people come from everywhere to use it

1:45:05 ↗ and and so

1:45:07 ↗ I guess from going with this is that

1:45:08 ↗ this does trigger more costs I just I've

1:45:12 ↗ learned that

1:45:14 ↗ um

1:45:15 ↗ there are options with rco grants

1:45:18 ↗ that are often tied to improving

1:45:23 ↗ accessibility so it's like if you

1:45:25 ↗ see are gonna have a project you can

1:45:28 ↗ apply for this Grant and the requirement

1:45:30 ↗ will be that you can spend more money on

1:45:33 ↗ accessibility so those are some things

1:45:34 ↗ just to put out there

1:45:36 ↗ um but what I think

1:45:39 ↗ I'm hoping we've done if if it's not too

1:45:42 ↗ late but with the whole CIP project uh

1:45:44 ↗ cfp effort

1:45:46 ↗ uh you know how much of these criteria

1:45:49 ↗ were included in the decision-making

1:45:52 ↗ process

1:45:54 ↗ um

1:45:54 ↗ that you know they would likely have

1:45:57 ↗ been brought in by the equity and

1:45:59 ↗ inclusion group but

1:46:02 ↗ um I don't know if it made it in time

1:46:05 ↗ so something to think about if not this

1:46:07 ↗ time then definitely for the next one

1:46:12 ↗ thank you

1:46:18 ↗ what else

1:46:22 ↗ that's it

1:46:23 ↗ well I can briefly tell you my next

1:46:25 ↗ steps as it's helpful for this group

1:46:29 ↗ um so through the rest of this month

1:46:31 ↗ I'll be meeting with other boarding

1:46:33 ↗ commissions uh as I mentioned time with

1:46:36 ↗ our transportation Advisory Board they

1:46:38 ↗ will be focused on

1:46:40 ↗ um talking about public right-of-way and

1:46:43 ↗ Street Crossings and then I'll also be

1:46:45 ↗ meeting again with the equity board

1:46:46 ↗ that's already taken an initial look at

1:46:48 ↗ some of this a few months ago on

1:46:52 ↗ September 19th I'll be headed to the

1:46:53 ↗ service of safety and Parks committee

1:46:55 ↗ with a final draft of the plan there

1:46:58 ↗ will be opportunity for public comment

1:47:00 ↗ at that meeting as well and then the

1:47:02 ↗ hope is that this goes to uh the

1:47:04 ↗ finalized plan goes to council at the

1:47:06 ↗ end of October for adoption

1:47:08 ↗ um and again there will be opportunity

1:47:10 ↗ for public input there as well in the

1:47:12 ↗ meantime it's not on this slide

1:47:14 ↗ um I have been continuing to engage the

1:47:16 ↗ groups that and the individuals that

1:47:18 ↗ have already emailed reached out

1:47:20 ↗ attended public meetings and those that

1:47:23 ↗ haven't they're still getting spammed by

1:47:25 ↗ my updates whether they whether they've

1:47:27 ↗ had sent me an email yet or not but

1:47:29 ↗ please please if you come across anyone

1:47:32 ↗ that you think might have an interest in

1:47:33 ↗ this please steer them towards both the

1:47:36 ↗ the page about this on the website or

1:47:38 ↗ directly to me I would love to get as

1:47:40 ↗ much input as we can

1:47:42 ↗ um and although I it was nice to run

1:47:45 ↗ into someone in a park I could talk to

1:47:46 ↗ about this I'd prefer not to be

1:47:48 ↗ hijacking uh people's peaceful Park

1:47:50 ↗ movement with bother some questions

1:47:52 ↗ about their ability to move around the

1:47:54 ↗ park so appreciate your input here your

1:47:57 ↗ questions are well noted here in my

1:47:59 ↗ notebook thank you so much for having me

1:48:01 ↗ this evening it was a real pleasure to

1:48:04 ↗ be here virtually with you all

1:48:07 ↗ foreign

1:48:17 ↗ all right that's all of our regular

1:48:19 ↗ business oh

1:48:21 ↗ um we have reports

1:48:23 ↗ we also have I don't know if you want to

1:48:25 ↗ do the other business with the

1:48:28 ↗ um next meeting

1:48:30 ↗ sure we can we can skip to that first

1:48:33 ↗ just to make sure that we we get time

1:48:34 ↗ with everybody we are are running long

1:48:37 ↗ this evening

1:48:38 ↗ um so one of the items that we wanted to

1:48:40 ↗ just touch base with the entire board is

1:48:43 ↗ our next meeting

1:48:45 ↗ um there's two things in relation to it

1:48:47 ↗ the first is that

1:48:50 ↗ um July 24th is now a city council

1:48:53 ↗ meeting

1:48:55 ↗ um and so Jeff our fearless leader

1:48:59 ↗ um has to be at that meeting as well

1:49:03 ↗ um and so we're proposing a possible

1:49:05 ↗ date change for the July meeting to the

1:49:09 ↗ following Monday July 31st

1:49:12 ↗ um if if the rest of the board is is

1:49:15 ↗ able to make that day change

1:49:18 ↗ um as well as that July meeting has

1:49:20 ↗ historically been a Park tour

1:49:24 ↗ um so you all as a board have been able

1:49:25 ↗ to go to a couple of different parks

1:49:27 ↗ within that meeting

1:49:29 ↗ um and talk about either current

1:49:31 ↗ projects or future projects and sort of

1:49:32 ↗ get out into our parks that we talk

1:49:34 ↗ about at these board meetings and so

1:49:37 ↗ with the pandemic my understanding is

1:49:38 ↗ those hadn't been able to happen but

1:49:40 ↗ we're able to sort of do that again this

1:49:42 ↗ year and so we wanted to talk to you

1:49:44 ↗ about locations

1:49:46 ↗ um and if there's interest in going to

1:49:49 ↗ multiple locations and sort of go

1:49:51 ↗ through some of the options

1:49:54 ↗ um one of the locations on the table is

1:49:57 ↗ to maybe start at the community center

1:49:59 ↗ and and go to the dog park location

1:50:02 ↗ itself

1:50:03 ↗ um because that's one of the current

1:50:04 ↗ projects

1:50:06 ↗ um and then go to pedestrian Park and

1:50:09 ↗ the Senior Center Plaza project areas so

1:50:11 ↗ everyone can sort of be in those spaces

1:50:13 ↗ and start to see the visioning for those

1:50:17 ↗ um and then uh

1:50:19 ↗ swing over to Confluence Park and take a

1:50:22 ↗ look at the eckhouse project as well and

1:50:24 ↗ that area

1:50:26 ↗ um and if time permits perhaps come over

1:50:28 ↗ here and look at TVP as possible future

1:50:32 ↗ Park plans

1:50:34 ↗ um so I'll open that to the board of

1:50:38 ↗ does July 31st work for other people

1:50:42 ↗ um and any thoughts on locations

1:50:48 ↗ of first thing the 31st would work out

1:50:52 ↗ of paper

1:50:53 ↗ but it's also just a quick point with

1:50:56 ↗ the dog park uh I think we should also

1:50:58 ↗ maybe just take it with walk down to see

1:51:00 ↗ I noticed they started pulling out the

1:51:01 ↗ IV for the location to potential

1:51:03 ↗ location and control he might be kind of

1:51:06 ↗ interesting to to add that and it's well

1:51:08 ↗ but otherwise all the other locations

1:51:11 ↗ seem to be pretty pertinent to to what

1:51:14 ↗ we're working on now with the uh Parks

1:51:17 ↗ Board so and my progression seems to

1:51:20 ↗ make sense

1:51:23 ↗ probably wouldn't Focus much energy on

1:51:25 ↗ TVP that's so far down the road you know

1:51:28 ↗ I think arpa funds is really the command

1:51:32 ↗ right now and so really I think the dog

1:51:34 ↗ park and pedestrian

1:51:37 ↗ Senior Center

1:51:39 ↗ and confluence

1:51:42 ↗ and the troll that's a lot of actually

1:51:44 ↗ really you can walk to all of those

1:51:46 ↗ really pretty easily

1:51:53 ↗ I think if you do more than three or

1:51:55 ↗ four and you're pushing it

1:51:59 ↗ uh Nicholas I see you have your hand up

1:52:02 ↗ sorry yeah sorry the date the date is

1:52:05 ↗ fine I mean it they're all Mondays

1:52:08 ↗ um

1:52:09 ↗ the one other thing I'd suggest if we

1:52:11 ↗ entertain the shuttle is some visitation

1:52:14 ↗ of Hillside just from the that's such a

1:52:17 ↗ long Park even though it's up in our a

1:52:20 ↗ lot of our neighborhood here in squawk

1:52:22 ↗ it I know it's been uh you know there's

1:52:24 ↗ been a bit of contention about it's

1:52:25 ↗ parking and its use and kind of all the

1:52:28 ↗ stuff that would be nice to visually

1:52:29 ↗ understand not just phase one but like

1:52:32 ↗ maybe even future phases of Hillside as

1:52:34 ↗ it's developed

1:52:36 ↗ assuming there are future phases

1:52:40 ↗ you know Chris and I talked about that

1:52:42 ↗ one it sort of debated if we should do

1:52:43 ↗ Hillside or not the original just like

1:52:46 ↗ what we

1:52:48 ↗ are in the permitting stage of that

1:52:49 ↗ right now so there's not a lot of

1:52:51 ↗ decision making that we have as a

1:52:52 ↗ cardboard at Hillside right now so as we

1:52:55 ↗ were trying to prioritize which ones we

1:52:56 ↗ stopped at that was one of the reasons

1:52:58 ↗ Community picked

1:52:59 ↗ so open to obviously if the group feels

1:53:02 ↗ like it's worth it but that was the

1:53:03 ↗ reasoning for not hitting the list the

1:53:04 ↗ first time

1:53:06 ↗ it's super super steep to walk to to

1:53:09 ↗ foreign

1:53:12 ↗ we would have transportation and

1:53:15 ↗ wheelchair accessible transportation to

1:53:18 ↗ be able to take all of us together in a

1:53:20 ↗ blast infant shuttle is is needed for

1:53:23 ↗ the Park tour if that's the sort of

1:53:26 ↗ variance of park locations

1:53:29 ↗ we have to publicize our route so that

1:53:32 ↗ we will need to apologize there will be

1:53:34 ↗ options for the public to either join us

1:53:36 ↗ in the shuttle

1:53:38 ↗ um or or join us at the park location

1:53:43 ↗ I like the route I like concentrating on

1:53:46 ↗ the arpathon locations uh I just won't

1:53:48 ↗ be on the bus so 731 doesn't work

1:53:52 ↗ and we can also touch base of our email

1:53:55 ↗ I'll send a confirmation thanks

1:54:02 ↗ um maybe real quick show of hands

1:54:04 ↗ for whom does the 31st work

1:54:07 ↗ you'd raise your hand

1:54:10 ↗ doesn't work for you

1:54:12 ↗ but not for doing it okay

1:54:17 ↗ did we get to them or so it doesn't work

1:54:21 ↗ for Tim it does work for Nick Nicholas

1:54:24 ↗ that's what I'm saying don't work around

1:54:25 ↗ me though I'm not I've done enough Park

1:54:28 ↗ tours

1:54:31 ↗ well okay so maybe we'll Workshop date

1:54:33 ↗ but it sounds like a location maybe

1:54:36 ↗ location sounds like we're good with dog

1:54:40 ↗ park possible troll

1:54:42 ↗ um and then focusing on our arpa fund

1:54:44 ↗ locations

1:54:47 ↗ okay well thank you I will pass it to

1:54:52 ↗ Chris if you have chair updates

1:54:55 ↗ um I have a few director updates but I

1:54:57 ↗ can go quickly or

1:55:00 ↗ um I'll go quick because I don't have

1:55:01 ↗ very much of what I have started to do

1:55:05 ↗ but really didn't make enough progress

1:55:06 ↗ prior to this first meeting is

1:55:09 ↗ um reaching out to a lot of the

1:55:11 ↗ different other organizations in our

1:55:13 ↗ area

1:55:14 ↗ um like clisp and fish the Kokanee work

1:55:16 ↗ group Brad as an example had contacts

1:55:19 ↗ with everybody and I'm starting to

1:55:23 ↗ establish those contacts and

1:55:25 ↗ the idea being maybe at some point in

1:55:27 ↗ the future we have a meeting where we

1:55:29 ↗ want or more meetings where we invite

1:55:31 ↗ representatives to just remind all of us

1:55:34 ↗ what those groups are what they do how

1:55:36 ↗ we interface

1:55:38 ↗ um how we have common objectives and

1:55:40 ↗ goals and efforts

1:55:42 ↗ and that's all I have

1:55:46 ↗ um so directors report update for

1:55:50 ↗ um Jeff I just wanted to mention a

1:55:51 ↗ couple of things we've been working with

1:55:54 ↗ our Consultants on the park strategic

1:55:56 ↗ Plan update and we're proposing changing

1:55:59 ↗ the name of it to possibly the park

1:56:02 ↗ system plan to sort of Encompass

1:56:04 ↗ everything that that we're looking at

1:56:06 ↗ and really our system of trails and

1:56:09 ↗ parks and open spaces and how they all

1:56:11 ↗ work together through our like 20-year

1:56:13 ↗ visioning

1:56:14 ↗ um we'll be reaching out to the ad hoc

1:56:16 ↗ group for more engagement pretty soon

1:56:19 ↗ here and we're going to be moving

1:56:21 ↗ towards some focused groups

1:56:23 ↗ um and and doing some targeted focus

1:56:26 ↗ group meetings with our consultants over

1:56:28 ↗ the summer so more to come on that soon

1:56:32 ↗ um tonight there was another city

1:56:34 ↗ council meeting and um though Jeff is

1:56:37 ↗ not here he's actually out on vacation

1:56:38 ↗ he also was supposed to be presenting

1:56:42 ↗ um the EC Health Project as it relates

1:56:44 ↗ to the CIP tonight to to council and it

1:56:47 ↗ really just reflects what we talked

1:56:49 ↗ about the last Park board meeting

1:56:51 ↗ um that we are doing this as sort of a

1:56:53 ↗ phased approach and that those two

1:56:55 ↗ phases that recommended approaches

1:56:57 ↗ reflected within the CIP

1:56:59 ↗ um if uh anyone is curious we'll share

1:57:02 ↗ the packet out again and you can review

1:57:04 ↗ that that presentation as well

1:57:07 ↗ um and then for our arba projects we are

1:57:10 ↗ looking at sort of finalizing the design

1:57:13 ↗ documents and getting ready for

1:57:14 ↗ permitting for both of those locations

1:57:17 ↗ um pedestrian Park Senior Center Plaza

1:57:18 ↗ as well as the eckhouse Pavilion Plaza

1:57:22 ↗ um to go into permitting later this

1:57:25 ↗ summer and so we are meeting with a

1:57:27 ↗ couple of different internal

1:57:30 ↗ um City uh offices our Public Works team

1:57:33 ↗ our maintenance and operations teams

1:57:36 ↗ um as well as our planning

1:57:38 ↗ um

1:57:39 ↗ the CPD stand for Community Planning and

1:57:43 ↗ Development sorry nine o'clock on Monday

1:57:46 ↗ um and

1:57:48 ↗ um talking through all those options we

1:57:50 ↗ also met with the veterans

1:57:52 ↗ um last week to talk about the memorial

1:57:54 ↗ and the flag space in front of the

1:57:57 ↗ Senior Center Plaza and making sure that

1:57:58 ↗ that has the prominence and the area

1:58:00 ↗ that really reflects

1:58:02 ↗ um that as as its own space within the

1:58:05 ↗ plaza

1:58:06 ↗ um and so you all will see some updated

1:58:08 ↗ design documents pretty soon here um

1:58:11 ↗ before we go into permitting and that'll

1:58:12 ↗ all get shared online

1:58:14 ↗ um and then the last thing I want to

1:58:16 ↗ mention is the Blackberry Park

1:58:18 ↗ neighborhood celebration I believe you

1:58:19 ↗ all got the invitation for July 10th um

1:58:22 ↗ from 5 30 to 6 30 at the park to really

1:58:25 ↗ celebrate the finishing of the park

1:58:28 ↗ improvements I know you all have been

1:58:29 ↗ here for the Long Haul of it I'm just

1:58:31 ↗ here at the tail end

1:58:33 ↗ um for the celebration so I hope you all

1:58:34 ↗ are able to join us

1:58:36 ↗ um city council and mayor will be there

1:58:37 ↗ we've invited the neighborhood if you

1:58:39 ↗ know neighbor that don't know about it

1:58:40 ↗ please let them know we'll have ice

1:58:43 ↗ cream and just sort of time to to

1:58:45 ↗ commemorate that awesome work

1:58:47 ↗ um

1:58:48 ↗ and with that

1:58:50 ↗ I leave it to any other

1:58:52 ↗ items any other business I have a

1:58:55 ↗ suggestion sure and it falls kind of

1:58:58 ↗ like with what um Jeff might be talking

1:59:00 ↗ about okay you know every now and then I

1:59:03 ↗ just pop onto YouTube just to actually

1:59:05 ↗ see what's going on with the city and

1:59:07 ↗ and there's so many things going on with

1:59:10 ↗ the city and YouTube

1:59:12 ↗ uh and it would really be nice frankly

1:59:14 ↗ to

1:59:16 ↗ um when Jeff makes a presentation the

1:59:20 ↗ city council

1:59:21 ↗ to actually

1:59:22 ↗ present that to the board

1:59:25 ↗ and all it would take would be to go

1:59:27 ↗ here's the YouTube link

1:59:29 ↗ starts at 21.3 or whatever

1:59:33 ↗ yeah because Jeff makes a lot of

1:59:34 ↗ presentations to the city council and

1:59:37 ↗ and unfortunately we don't all get a

1:59:39 ↗ chance to deal with that I just ended up

1:59:41 ↗ happening along in some time and it

1:59:43 ↗ would be really nice to actually see

1:59:46 ↗ what he does present to the city council

1:59:48 ↗ it'd be real easy to present you know

1:59:50 ↗ send that out to the board

1:59:52 ↗ I don't know what Jeff thinks about that

1:59:53 ↗ but

1:59:54 ↗ I think we all feel a certain way about

1:59:57 ↗ being on a quote unquote YouTube Stars

1:59:59 ↗ here that's it's a great suggestion and

2:00:02 ↗ something that we can definitely yeah

2:00:03 ↗ talk about it

2:00:08 ↗ anyone else have any other business they

2:00:11 ↗ would like to bring up

2:00:15 ↗ do we know anything about our youth

2:00:17 ↗ Representatives they are on summer

2:00:19 ↗ holiday

2:00:20 ↗ um so they're on summer break so they

2:00:22 ↗ they're they're tenure with us at the

2:00:24 ↗ park board ended in

2:00:27 ↗ and there on summer break until we hit

2:00:30 ↗ probably the September October meeting

2:00:32 ↗ we'll probably have new youth reps yes

2:00:34 ↗ maybe spoiled we had Ryan before and he

2:00:37 ↗ came out all the time anyway yeah we did

2:00:38 ↗ good spoiled I think you all did get

2:00:40 ↗ spoiled too

2:00:43 ↗ all right and then so the next meeting

2:00:45 ↗ the date is still TBD maybe we are going

2:00:48 ↗ to do a poll and then I will send an

2:00:51 ↗ email out first thing tomorrow morning

2:00:52 ↗ okay pick the one that gets the most

2:00:54 ↗ people and it will be a tour

2:00:57 ↗ uh and it sounds like it will probably

2:00:59 ↗ be a tour of dog park maybe the troll

2:01:03 ↗ the

2:01:04 ↗ Memorial Park head to Memorial somewhere

2:01:07 ↗ in there or all in there and then the

2:01:09 ↗ confluence

2:01:13 ↗ yes with that

2:01:15 ↗ well done the meeting's adjourned thank

2:01:17 ↗ you thank you thanks

2:01:22 ↗ it's really a joke

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Council / Members (9)

Chris Kovac

Marlene Waxse

Zach Szablewski

David Liu

Nicholas Lee (Virtual)

Brenda Spears

Tim Motely (Virtual, arrived 7:46 pm)

Bradley Book

Andrew Myers, Alternate (Excused Absence)

Staff (5)

Hasanthi Piyasena, Business Operations Specialist

Rick Still, Park Operations Manager

Dale Markey-Crimp, Performance Program Analyst (virtual)

Steve Nowaczyk, HBB Consultant (Virtual)

Cory Christensen, Community Member

Excused

Andrew Eliquen

Katie Bell

Ryan Olson

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