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Wednesday, October 12, 2022

6:30 PM · 1h 48m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Eastside Climate Partnership Interlocal Agreement AB 8472 2/3
Issaquah Climate Action Plan Performance Dashboard (D) 2/2
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of September 14, 2022
packet pp.3–5
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 09-14-22 Environmental Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. September 14, 2022 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Issaquah Climate Action Plan Performance Dashboard (D)
Dale Markey-Crimp, Management Analyst · packet pp.7–8
Topics: Climate
Staff report:
Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
4b
Annual Report Input
Discussion · Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.9–14
Staff report:
Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
5. REPORTS
5a
ICAP Report Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager
packet pp.15–21
Topics: Climate
Staff report:
Update the City Council on implementation of the Climate Action Plan. Staff last provided an implementation update to Council in April 2022.
5b
Budget Update Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager
packet pp.23–26
Topics: ClimateBudget
Staff report:
2023-2024 Budget Update ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD – OCTOBER 12, 2022 STACY VYNNE MCKINSTRY, SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER Page 23 of 29 REPORTS b) ICAP Proposed Budget Summary*  Add Sustainability Coordinator.  Advance electrification and renewable energy development for municipal buildings.  Advance energy efficiency and electrification efforts for existing buildings.  Support green building for new construction.  Expand EV charging infrastructure with equitable access.  Implementation of vulnerability assessment communication tools. *does not reflect staff time for work on policies
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
Updated Board Schedule
packet pp.27–29
Staff report:
2022 Environmental Board Schedule (tentative) All meetings are at 6:30 unless noted otherwise. (updated 10/5/22)
0:03 all right all right
0:06 thank you to Stacy for all the uh I.T
0:09 starting out with it challenges
0:12 um welcome to the October 12th meeting
0:14 of the environmental environmental board
0:16 I'm Jamie Finch and I'll be your chair
0:18 tonight
0:19 um due to the hybrid nature of this
0:21 meeting we will have some members
0:22 attending in person and others by phone
0:25 or computer
0:27 um for all meeting attendees that are
0:29 attending remotely please take your name
0:31 each time before speaking mute your
0:34 microphone when not speaking
0:36 um I believe will we be able to see
0:38 Matangi
0:40 uh she is raising her hand or what's the
0:43 best way to make sure that we stay up
0:46 yes maybe it's just that right you can
0:49 um either send the host a chat you
0:52 should be able to do that on their phone
0:53 oh and there we go we'll see you on
0:56 video yeah just raise your real hand at
0:59 home we'll make sure to keep eye on you
1:01 great
1:02 um and then for all of our
1:05 um board members that are in person as
1:07 we've been doing please indicate desire
1:09 to speak by tilting your potato on its
1:12 side
1:14 um as we have been doing for the last
1:15 couple of meetings we'll be summarizing
1:18 um agreement or at least the discussion
1:20 that was had
1:24 those topics and uh please if anyone has
1:26 any additional comments from those that
1:28 tend to summarize uh Facebook right away
1:32 uh I think from here kind of states that
1:35 you could take us through attendance
1:37 thank you
1:38 um Tom Anderson here
1:44 here uh Nancy Davidson here
1:48 Jamie Finch here
1:50 Aaron Fisher here
1:52 uh Rishi hasroth as an excuse absence
1:55 here
1:57 Laura labanco
2:01 uh Ashwin manoharam here Don McWilliams
2:04 here and you come here and Janet here
2:10 thank you Stacy um next on the agenda we
2:14 have approval of the minutes
2:17 I just wanted to mention I I do think
2:20 um I was hoping to have Billy take a
2:22 look at the comments related to Title 18
2:27 um just to see if there's any items that
2:28 were missed I just recall there being
2:29 some other discussion items that we
2:32 summarized or included in our summary so
2:35 that was my one comment that we made
2:38 revisit that and
2:40 come back
2:41 the next meeting
2:43 those but I don't is there anyone else
2:46 that had any other comments on the
2:47 minutes
2:51 oh we will move on from that item and uh
2:55 and review the next next meeting once
2:58 we've got a chance to review that
3:00 I think from from here we go to public
3:03 comments
3:05 um I don't know if
3:07 anyone has indicated a desire to provide
3:10 comment
3:12 no we did not receive any written
3:14 comments we do have Ann Fletcher on she
3:17 said she's not planning to make any
3:18 comments tonight and do go ahead and
3:21 send me a chat if you
3:24 would like to change and make public
3:26 comments
3:28 no other members of the publican
3:31 well
3:32 then I will move on to our main agenda
3:36 items the first one being the so-called
3:39 climate action plan uh performance
3:41 dashboard
3:43 excellent
3:45 uh good evening everyone I am going to
3:47 share my screen a couple of times
3:49 throughout the presentation tonight uh
3:51 first just a couple of quick slides that
3:54 I want to acknowledge we're not in the
3:56 packet for this evening I felt like they
3:58 could be a good addition they are just
4:01 the content that you've already read in
4:03 the memo but I just want to provide that
4:05 and I will fear that afterwards to be
4:07 added to
4:09 um added back to the packet
4:14 you think hail murky crimp management
4:17 analyst uh one of the two management
4:19 analysts here at the city it's really
4:20 wonderful to be back with you all again
4:23 on the other side of the summer
4:26 um the purpose of my time here tonight
4:27 is to provide an update on the icap
4:30 implementation uh dashboard that we've
4:33 been working on since we all met back in
4:36 June and then to seek additional
4:38 feedback ahead of the dashboard launch
4:39 later this month
4:42 I'm looking for tonight from the board
4:45 is how does this new version of the
4:47 dashboard fit with the feedback from
4:49 June around the structure design and
4:52 content of the dashboard
4:55 for a little bit of background as was
4:57 mentioned in the memo there were four
4:59 main pieces of feedback from the June
5:01 meeting
5:02 the first one was that the board was
5:05 eager to see a dashboard that started
5:08 with high level content but provided
5:10 layers of data and in in and information
5:13 that individuals could drill down into
5:16 given their personal level of interest
5:18 you wanted a tool that was that could
5:21 give people an at a glance idea of how
5:23 we were doing with our implementation
5:25 and against our our climate action goals
5:27 but also provided uh some more
5:29 information for folks that might want to
5:31 go a little bit deeper
5:35 um a dashboard that provided connections
5:37 to resources related to the plan's
5:39 implementation
5:41 thirdly a way of knowing how we're doing
5:45 at any given moment towards our climate
5:48 action goals and implementation goals
5:51 and then generally just some feedback
5:53 um there was a lot of positive feedback
5:55 on General color scheme alignment in the
5:58 mock-up mock dashboard images we walked
6:02 through back in June and just some more
6:04 encouragement to really double down on
6:06 that to make sure that the visuals in
6:09 the dashboard the dashboard itself felt
6:11 related to and aligned to the icap
6:14 document itself
6:16 coming back to you back in mind
6:20 feedback as a team
6:22 um and apply that to some of the
6:24 mock-ups that we shared back in June and
6:27 I'd like to take the next little bit of
6:28 time just to walk through how the mock
6:31 deck or the beta version of the
6:33 dashboard that was sent um in a link
6:35 ahead of this meeting addresses those
6:37 four main areas of feedback and after
6:40 that I'll pause
6:41 um and the thought will be to engage in
6:43 conversation suggestions and additional
6:46 questions
6:47 is there anything though before I jump
6:49 into that would be uh helpful for
6:53 or that anyone wants to bring up before
6:55 that
7:01 Dale just that your slides are in the
7:04 editing mode I don't know if you want to
7:08 I'm not going to be in those anymore so
7:10 hopefully that uh that will be okay
7:13 um could everyone see the climate action
7:15 dashboard now
7:17 okay tax on it so for the first piece of
7:22 feedback which was to start at a high
7:25 level and then be able to drill down
7:27 further into key areas of interest you
7:30 can see on this landing page for the
7:32 dashboard we have sort of a high level
7:34 overview just generally of the climate
7:37 action dashboard a key for understanding
7:41 um where we are in progress to
7:42 implementation or meeting goals and then
7:45 our six key goal areas with below some
7:50 high-level overview of implementations
7:52 so where are we in implementation by
7:54 goal area
7:55 overall for the plan where are we in
7:58 implementation specifically within the
8:00 items we've designated as 2022 items and
8:04 then overall what is our planned um when
8:08 we look at the entire plan what are we
8:09 planning to implement
8:11 um all elements of the plan and so
8:13 looking back at this being able to say
8:15 hey in 2021 we implemented this much of
8:18 the plan in 2022 we're implementing this
8:21 much of the plan in 23 and 24 this much
8:24 of the plan and in 25 26 this much of
8:28 the plan and this aligns to our budget
8:30 years
8:31 um not to uh specific years of our
8:34 budget and we're coming up as a city and
8:36 passing our first biennial budget
8:38 standards this 23 is a very big chunk uh
8:41 that's representative of two years
8:44 um two two budget years there
8:47 this starts off at a high level and also
8:50 allows you to say you really want are
8:52 more interested in these overarching
8:54 climate actions
8:55 by hovering over this you're able to
8:57 click in
8:58 and it will take you to a page that is
9:00 specific to The overarching Climate
9:03 actions that's the other plan so
9:05 starting with a high level and providing
9:07 layers of data and information so
9:10 specifically being able to look down at
9:12 the goal area itself
9:14 and then also even from here as it says
9:16 click on the goals above right for more
9:18 information
9:19 um I noticed this this link was broken
9:21 but what you should be able to do is
9:24 click on the goal itself and it will
9:26 take you to a page that specifically
9:28 talks about that visualization
9:31 um so specifically that overarching goal
9:33 area
9:35 was to provide connections and resources
9:38 related to the plan's implementation
9:41 and as you can see on every page as you
9:43 go down here there's some information it
9:45 says below you can explore different
9:47 implementation actions benchmarks
9:49 near-term goals you can click on an item
9:52 um and then it will bring you to a
9:54 related
9:55 related resource outside of the
9:58 dashboard I think a great one here um
10:01 for us to click on I'll go back in a
10:02 moment
10:04 um would be to look at our community
10:06 climate action challenge which we're all
10:08 familiar with we know this is something
10:10 that's happening in the community
10:11 there's the ability to click on this and
10:14 have it take you to
10:16 um actually have you take you to the
10:17 page and I'm
10:20 I'll take you to the page
10:23 and you'll be able to learn more about
10:25 the climate at the community climate
10:27 challenge
10:29 firstly if it's something that doesn't
10:31 exist outside of the dashboard maybe we
10:33 don't have a resource like that to tell
10:36 us more about it you can go ahead and
10:38 you can hover over an item and it will
10:41 tell you more about how we know we're on
10:43 track or if we're not on track why we
10:45 might not be on track towards that goal
10:47 so again providing connections and
10:49 resources related to the plans
10:51 implementation and providing a way of
10:54 knowing how we're doing in the current
10:56 moment
10:57 in addition I've already I've already
10:59 pointed out this feature but each of the
11:01 actions as a um progress uh sort of and
11:06 it aligns to up here whether it's on
11:09 track so we are meeting or exceeding our
11:11 current year targets and benchmarks
11:12 whether it's in progress uh we're not
11:16 currently meeting our 2022 targets for
11:18 Benchmark off track this could be
11:21 something that is just really not
11:22 performing as expected and then yet to
11:25 be determined and you'll notice we have
11:26 a number of things in here where we've
11:28 maybe not quite determined what our
11:29 near-term Target or Benchmark might be
11:32 um but each of these has a has a little
11:36 message here to tell us where we are and
11:38 then I
11:39 um icon that coordinates with that
11:41 status
11:42 and certainly not least is just making
11:45 sure that the dashboard itself aligns
11:47 visually to the plan and so we've made
11:50 some intentional choices to pull images
11:53 that exist in the icap document itself
11:55 and have those show up in this dashboard
11:59 and then also as I'm sure you've noticed
12:01 um making sure that the color schemes
12:04 and the icons will go back to this main
12:07 page these icons would show up on every
12:09 single page of the dashboard that those
12:12 are pulled directly from the plan
12:14 um ensuring that there's alignment
12:16 visually between the plan and our and
12:19 our implementation dashboard here
12:22 um there are a number of things that we
12:24 could go into I really want to have this
12:26 be driven by this group of people here
12:29 um and so I'll pause on my presentation
12:31 but I'll leave I'll leave this um I'll
12:34 leave this page up so that we can
12:36 maneuver around it together as you have
12:38 questions thoughts or comments
12:40 um and I'll pause there for questions
12:42 thoughts and comments
12:45 thank you Dale
12:47 um looks like we have a question from
12:49 Dom
12:50 uh yes thank you Tom Anderson here
12:54 um so I have a comment on colors uh the
12:57 first of all uh so I happen to be a
12:59 person who has red green color blindness
13:02 a common thing amongst the males
13:05 particularly and it doesn't mean I can't
13:08 see red and green but I just don't see
13:10 it as well as some and the contrast is
13:12 harder to discern so the bar chart if
13:15 you scroll down a little bit to the bar
13:17 chart
13:18 for example uh so I I can if I put my
13:22 thinking cap on I can discern the
13:25 difference and and uh but it's uh it's
13:28 it's not easy for me to kind of look at
13:31 that and see well let's see which of the
13:33 good ones and which are the bad ones and
13:36 uh what are they all the legend at the
13:38 bottom is too small with respect to the
13:41 graphics above to really make the
13:44 connection without
13:45 the working hard at it so
13:49 um I I suggest a higher contrast color
13:52 scheme a better Legend on that chart and
13:56 also I kind of challenge I think I think
13:58 the bar chart the bar uh graphic is the
14:02 wrong uh thing to represent these
14:04 because it kind of looks like they want
14:07 the left oh we're doing great there
14:08 because it's nice and Tall the ones the
14:10 right or not but that's not what it's
14:12 about just that happens to that that
14:14 happens to have a lot of actions to
14:16 worry on work on so I I think Dave
14:19 graphic that normalizes them so that
14:22 they all uh are tally up to 100 well
14:26 like a part pie chart
14:28 or a gauge where uh the hundred percent
14:31 Mark is uh all the all the identified
14:35 actions
14:36 um worked on and then you can kind of
14:39 see and scan across and compare the pies
14:42 and see which one has more progress
14:46 versus the other this one it'd be it's
14:50 kind of hard to figure out well let's
14:52 see where's what which ones of these are
14:55 we having problems with and which ones
14:57 are you can do it but yeah put your
15:00 thinking cap on to uh to discern that
15:03 information
15:04 uh so those are my governance thank you
15:07 excellent thank you Tom that's really
15:09 helpful and I think accessibility is
15:11 definitely something that I want to make
15:12 sure is incorporated so I appreciate
15:14 that um I appreciate that input
15:18 and Tom and go ahead yeah I just wanted
15:22 um second one Tom said so I'm not
15:25 colorblind but after Tom brought that up
15:28 I realized yeah I really had to put some
15:31 effort into figuring out which was which
15:33 as well
15:39 and crazy
15:43 all right
15:44 go ahead um
15:46 thanks Dale uh Dan Hintz I I just be
15:48 curious what you think and maybe some of
15:50 the other members of the environmental
15:52 board here about the the kind of four
15:55 categories of on track in progress off
15:57 track to be determined I guess on track
16:00 makes a lot of sense to me to be
16:02 determined I think does to
16:04 um I guess I'm having a little hard time
16:06 distinguishing between you know in
16:07 progress with the kind of tag of
16:09 benchmarks not being that and off track
16:12 not performing as if expected I'd be
16:13 curious to hear a little bit more about
16:14 the Nuance between those two or if it
16:17 seems like one too many maybe it would
16:18 be fine with just kind of three tracking
16:20 items there
16:22 yeah I'm happy to share my impression
16:26 um but again I I'm not sure I have a as
16:29 a creator of this I don't have a super
16:31 strong opinion I think that's up to this
16:33 group to have
16:35 um the two items the the two items that
16:37 are red and thus hard for Tom to see
16:40 um that are off track are over are are
16:44 overarching goals so it is it is if you
16:48 go to say
16:50 say we look at buildings and energy
16:52 specifically I'll just click through
16:54 here a couple of slides
16:56 um it's not actually one of these
16:58 actions down here it's this up here it's
17:02 not that is that is not performing as
17:04 expected and so the reason why that's
17:07 its own category is that we actually
17:09 don't have a very clear
17:11 2022 Target so we have a forget in the
17:15 plan that says reduce you know 25 energy
17:18 use reduction by 2030 but the plan
17:21 doesn't actually spell out what that
17:22 Target should be for 2022. and so saying
17:26 that it's in progress isn't quite right
17:29 and saying that it's on track is
17:31 certainly not right and saying that it's
17:33 to be determined isn't quite right
17:35 either because we do have a Target
17:38 that's pretty clear and 2030 is a closer
17:42 Target than some of our others like the
17:44 2050 you know we might be actually able
17:46 to develop an interim Target but 2030 is
17:49 close enough that I'm not sure that
17:51 we're going to develop an interim Target
17:52 so just and we know that we're not on
17:55 the right in the right direction the
17:57 other one that's the case for is in
17:59 um materials and consumption which again
18:02 is the exact same situation this high
18:05 level overarching goal we're headed in
18:07 the wrong direction
18:09 um and we are off track but we are on we
18:12 are sort of it's again it doesn't fall
18:14 into that in progress or yet to be
18:15 determined category is quite as easily
18:18 so I I would take feedback on narrowing
18:22 those categories and just saying hey
18:23 we're going to call that um off track
18:25 we're going to call anything that's not
18:26 on track off track and widening that
18:29 bucket
18:30 um but I would defer to this group
18:32 um to make that decision
18:35 that's very helpful I don't have a super
18:36 strong opinion I just felt that was one
18:38 of my kind of initial kind of questions
18:40 I think also I guess my last comment to
18:43 that too is you know if you can kind of
18:45 hover over the status for specific goals
18:47 for each kind of overarching section of
18:50 this
18:51 um you know maybe that can be the spot
18:52 where you could have a little more
18:53 Nuance there that you're kind of
18:54 explaining interpretation so it seems
18:57 like an opportunity to
18:58 clarify a little bit between the
19:00 differences
19:03 and that was actually some feedback I
19:05 got from another uh
19:10 of having those statuses below but the
19:13 the ones at the top don't have one so
19:14 that will definitely add that um and
19:16 then be able to have the same call out
19:18 bubbles that'll provide some more
19:20 context there
19:23 thank you Dan basically did you have
19:25 something to add yeah I wanted to add
19:28 um and definitely looking for feedback
19:30 on this but the different categories of
19:32 where things are I think we want to
19:35 um the in progress was meant to be this
19:37 has started it's underway
19:39 um might be a little shorter the targets
19:41 we sent say like the climate action
19:43 um challenge we set a 250 at 250 Target
19:47 for them this year we're not probably
19:49 going to make that so we wanted to have
19:51 a category for that
19:53 um but then I also was interested in
19:55 having a category for something that we
19:57 plan to do that this year we tried and
20:01 it didn't happen either because of
20:03 political reasons financial reasons
20:05 whatever it might be
20:08 um but we we have a major barrier with
20:11 getting something through so
20:14 just wanted to I feel like those are we
20:17 want to distinguish between the two
20:18 where we're falling a little bit short
20:19 but we could probably put some more
20:21 effort behind it versus we have a major
20:22 issue here so
20:25 um yeah any other thoughts folks have
20:27 for organizing those but just want to
20:29 make sure that the context s are where
20:30 we're trying to distinguish
20:33 thanks Stacy maybe I'll just hop in I do
20:36 have some thoughts on that I similarly
20:37 think there needs to be
20:39 maybe revisiting of those categories
20:43 the one
20:44 like I feel like the off track like
20:47 we're not meeting our goals versus
20:48 having started this and we were saying
20:50 we're going to start this might be one
20:54 distinction that would help it it
20:55 actually might require a separate
20:57 category that actually ties into some
20:59 other feedback I have on this graphic I
21:02 similarly think
21:03 that actually having future stuff in
21:05 here is likely what's wrong making this
21:07 really difficult to look at and be able
21:09 to understand and quickly
21:12 um I actually thinking back to like CIP
21:14 having this is like it's a like a simple
21:17 table might be more effective at saying
21:19 these are the number of actions that we
21:21 have that are in these different
21:22 categories these are for this year and
21:25 then these are the future year projects
21:27 I just think that having future year in
21:29 that visualization because I think that
21:31 that it is in there makes it hard to
21:34 understand at a glance at least with
21:35 that sort of visualization so that would
21:38 be one area of feedback that I would
21:40 have
21:41 um I actually think also within the
21:44 details of these categories
21:46 I I wonder if a table format
21:49 might be easier to be able to scroll
21:51 down and be able to really quickly see
21:53 like right now my eyes have to go to a
21:55 bunch of different places to see what
21:57 we're on track with and what we are in
21:58 but rather than looking down a call I'm
22:01 seeing this is what we're on track
22:06 um so I do wonder if that area might
22:08 some organization change and maybe
22:10 simplification
22:13 um it might not allow for the images
22:15 um but I do think this it makes it a
22:18 little harder to take in as it is
22:20 currently
22:22 um I did have one other question so
22:26 as we think so I take an example of the
22:29 climate action challenge
22:30 would we anticipate having the specifics
22:33 around
22:35 like we had a goal of X and this is what
22:38 we're currently performing to this is
22:39 when it was updated I'm curious I'm just
22:40 curious on like how we how we're
22:42 thinking about updating like the the
22:45 Cadence as well as what we plan on
22:47 communicating to someone when they they
22:49 might land on it I could give an action
22:51 so I might I don't know if that's Dale
22:52 or Stacy that would be able to help with
22:55 kind of what what our plan is there
22:58 yeah it can start and then hand over to
23:00 Dale I think we decided most of these
23:03 can be updated quarterly there may not
23:05 some of these are longer term and there
23:06 may an update but it's actually the way
23:09 we set it up Dale set it up it's very
23:11 easy to go through and do updates
23:14 um so that's our plan right now it's
23:15 quarterly
23:17 um and then we are collecting a specific
23:19 data
23:21 um I don't know how we dig into that but
23:24 around for instance the time in action
23:26 challenge you'll be able to see how many
23:28 have signed up what our Target was and
23:30 then eventually we'll we'll link that
23:32 back then to the greenhouse gas and
23:34 Mission reductions based on so I'm
23:36 trying to get in all that little detail
23:39 and that'll feed into our overall okay
23:42 Target
23:43 that's all when do you think just clear
23:45 communication around like
23:47 for example like when you're talking
23:49 about what is off track like someone's
23:51 going to want to look at and understand
23:52 what that is and so I'm letting them
23:54 know the specifics of
23:57 like the timing of when we're saying
23:58 we're off track and this is why we're
24:01 saying oh we're off track
24:04 um I think my last comment is at the
24:07 very bottom of the first page it shows
24:09 that kind of 100 graph with all of the
24:13 different like plan year or actions per
24:16 year
24:17 my guess is that some of those span
24:19 multiple years so I do wonder if that
24:22 graphic might end up being a little
24:23 confusing and that it only has our
24:25 launch here like if I'm
24:28 wanting to look at and see what is
24:29 currently ongoing there might be I mean
24:31 we might still be doing climate action
24:33 plan in 2023
24:35 that would be a 2022 year in this and I
24:39 don't know that we're going to be able
24:39 to like drill down into the 2022 actions
24:42 here
24:44 um but I do think it would be helpful to
24:45 understand
24:46 like some of these will be Moment In
24:49 Time actions that are taken some will be
24:51 ongoing programs or actions that are
24:54 that are spanning a longer period of
24:56 time so I do think that I don't know
24:58 what it is if it's if it's again or if
25:00 it's something that just shows we can
25:02 get to a point that we can see that not
25:05 only the start date but duration and
25:08 kind of understand what is ongoing and
25:11 again that's someone could participate
25:12 in at a given time or just might want to
25:16 be aware that this city is working on so
25:19 oh yeah that was
25:21 a great super helpful Jamie some of
25:24 those things I think are very doable
25:26 um a couple of those we might have to it
25:28 might not be a visual that's uh coming
25:30 out of data it might be something we we
25:33 draw or create and then drop in just as
25:36 a static image
25:38 um but I I agree with that with a lot of
25:42 what you what you just offered thank you
25:49 [Music]
25:50 belabor the icons too much but anyway I
25:54 would uh dad was saying kind of
25:56 resonated with me I feel like um when I
26:00 scanned the the activities there and saw
26:04 the on track check mark re-check Mark
26:06 okay I know what that means the off
26:09 track black with a dash okay I know what
26:11 that means when I saw the little uh the
26:14 little square with some checks or
26:16 whatever I don't know I'm not sure what
26:17 did that I I well I had to engage my
26:20 brain and go look somewhere and kind of
26:22 figure out what does that mean
26:24 and uh it would be nice to have find a
26:27 graphic which
26:29 can kind of
26:31 evoke the thing we want to say without
26:34 having to go look somewhere else I know
26:36 on some debt kind of dashboards I've
26:38 seen people use a green circle for on
26:42 track uh a green a half green circle you
26:46 know one side green the other not green
26:48 to show something's in progress and then
26:51 an empty circle or black circle for off
26:53 track I don't know that's just an idea
26:55 of a way to show to illustrate that in
26:59 between state or yeah we're making
27:01 progress but we're not quite where we
27:03 want to be and it
27:05 is a sort of graphic that you don't have
27:08 to go look up to get what it's talking
27:11 about
27:12 uh so that's just a suggestion uh thank
27:15 you
27:17 great thank you
27:19 Tom Nancy go ahead
27:21 hi I'm Nancy Davidson and I would like
27:24 to build on what Tom just said I think
27:27 your description of those icons
27:30 are not clear and I'll say that in
27:33 progress means that the targets or
27:35 benchmarks are not being met but you're
27:38 in progress so maybe they'll be by the
27:40 end of the year so it says to me that
27:43 doesn't is it sounds like we're not
27:45 going to even meet it by the end of the
27:46 year that we have something that has
27:48 either causes disruption to that
27:51 activity and it's not going to happen or
27:55 we're only getting 20 of the people we
27:58 expected to participate it doesn't
28:01 so it's not very clear what in progress
28:04 in progress can be we're at 50 of the
28:06 year and the rest of the 50 of the year
28:08 we think we're going to hit it because
28:10 if we keep the same
28:12 in progress and we're getting there it's
28:14 a different definition than what we've
28:16 got here and so what we're not showing
28:18 really is when we have a benchmark or
28:21 something that is really we're not going
28:23 to need it we know we're not going to
28:25 mean it we can see it right now we need
28:27 to do something different this one does
28:29 not say that to me this one says we're
28:32 in progress and we might get there
28:34 that's just my how I read it and that to
28:38 be determined is
28:41 um I think really troubles them
28:43 and that means it might be better to say
28:46 not started
28:48 um you know it it's more in progress
28:50 because you are really starting to work
28:52 on it or it's a future year
28:55 um to be determined
28:57 says that you know it's just not clear
29:01 on what you're doing with each of those
29:03 two activities the other two I clearly
29:06 understand what you're trying to
29:07 communicate with those but those two I
29:09 think are real red flags to people that
29:12 are trying to understand that and the
29:14 icons don't help them at all so I think
29:16 you need to figure out what you're
29:18 trying to communicate about those and
29:20 these icons and the words do not do that
29:24 for those two for me
29:26 thanks Nancy
29:29 right I just had two other quick
29:32 comments one I don't know if it's just a
29:34 part of this being a demo but I haven't
29:37 been able to figure out how to go
29:40 back up is that the is that just the
29:44 bottom
29:46 thing is it the bottom thing or okay
29:49 yeah yeah
29:51 and so let's just figure out exactly how
29:54 to do this if we want to pin back or
29:56 home icons in the corner which we can
29:59 um if we want to use the City of
30:01 Issaquah logo as a home uh touch Point
30:06 um these icons will always take you to
30:08 the main page of that category no matter
30:11 where you are uh but I agree I think the
30:14 deciding how to move within
30:17 um is is a
30:19 the jury's out a little bit um and we
30:21 can very easily similar to the city's
30:23 homeless Outreach dashboard or similar
30:27 um our strategic plan dashboard include
30:30 foam and back buttons in the top corner
30:33 to make a clearer
30:35 um depending on what these groups would
30:37 be most helpful
30:39 I guess my because the problem with the
30:41 back button on the bottom part is if
30:42 you're on other if you're on any like
30:45 Biz other than the second one you go
30:48 back to instead of going home which is
30:50 what I would expect if I've just come
30:52 from home
30:53 one of the previous whatever might have
30:56 common none and so I've been going
30:58 pressing the back button going back to
31:01 the memo Doc and going back in the new
31:03 thing is there's something there that
31:05 could be helpful
31:06 um the other was just a question so
31:09 uh it was on building and energy
31:13 um category there's the city-wide energy
31:16 used by type with graphs yeah that one
31:20 um is that going to be the same view for
31:23 all like I'm just curious how that space
31:25 is going to be used for all the
31:27 different
31:27 categories
31:34 goals is that because this one doesn't
31:37 seem specific to the maybe it is but
31:41 is is that specific to just the
31:43 buildings and energy
31:46 I wasn't clear if that yes so this is um
31:51 this is just the goal for this is just
31:54 the overarching goal for buildings and
31:55 energy so it's just communicating
31:58 consider city-wide energy use and our
32:01 goal is to reduce that by 25
32:03 this is just for this one
32:06 okay
32:08 um so I guess the only comment on that
32:10 is I don't see anywhere in here that we
32:13 have the overall like these all put
32:16 together like we have a five category
32:18 but I don't see the overall issaquah's
32:21 targets overarching Mega it's been
32:22 actually saying as I'm saying it's
32:24 probably not overarching section
32:26 um is that where you would expect to
32:28 find that
32:30 um in that overarching climate actions
32:32 and that would be the in that place on
32:35 that category for greenhouse gas
32:37 dimensions
32:41 yeah yeah so similar to this but like
32:44 not just for the building buildings and
32:46 energy category
32:50 we'll go here
32:52 um and that will sit sit at the top of
32:54 this similar like the way the plan is
32:56 set up the overarching goal within each
32:58 category section will sit at the top of
33:02 the dashboard so this is where
33:04 greenhouse gas we've originally
33:06 announced gas emissions it will visual
33:07 for that will sit here and then you'll
33:09 be able to click on that and that'll
33:11 bring up a larger view of that visual
33:14 with any sort of additional
33:16 um data we have related specifically to
33:19 our greenhouse gas emissions reduction
33:21 goals
33:22 okay yeah the only and I know we have
33:25 limited space on that first summary
33:28 like sheet but I do right now that
33:32 overall goal that someone would if they
33:34 just want to come and understand what
33:36 are like what are we doing with the
33:37 climate action plan where are we trying
33:39 to go in general you don't see that and
33:42 so the until you click in and then we
33:46 wanted that to sit on the home page it
33:47 absolutely could I think we're we're
33:50 sort of waiting on that data a little
33:51 bit from King County to have that um but
33:54 we can absolutely have that sit front
33:55 and center
33:57 yeah I just wonder that and maybe it's
33:59 not the first thing you see that just
34:01 seems like really critical information
34:02 if someone was to land here that
34:06 might make sense there might be other
34:08 things that we could put
34:09 um rather than that but just just a
34:11 thought as
34:13 uh that does seem like some really
34:14 critical information for someone so to
34:17 be able to understand and land
34:18 yeah
34:21 that's everything I had Dan um go ahead
34:23 yeah thanks Katie
34:24 um Dell real quick question for I guess
34:26 kind of some of the slides Jamie is just
34:28 talking about uh with some of the
34:29 reduction or increase in percentages
34:31 goals is the Baseline year 2022 or does
34:35 it go back or I guess I'm just you know
34:38 just curious on that
34:39 like 25 reduction from
34:44 oh yeah it depends on the sorry it
34:46 depends on the target yeah those are
34:48 listed in
34:51 that detail
34:53 at least in the back end of this so we
34:55 can make sure that's that's weird okay
34:56 yeah that's what I'm saying it could be
34:58 a cool graphic like I'm on the buildings
34:59 and energy one where it's you know 25
35:01 reduction by 2030 and I'm thinking it's
35:03 like well is that starting in 2019 when
35:05 it's higher so it's easier to reach that
35:07 Target but just something what kind of
35:09 shows where that uh starts from and even
35:11 maybe what that goal looks like on one
35:13 of these bar graphs you know a 25
35:15 reduction from that first reporting year
35:18 um so yeah we're just kind of curious
35:19 about that and I think that'd be neat to
35:21 have kind of clarified on these slides
35:22 that are relative to obviously the first
35:24 reporting and I guess a real small
35:25 comment still on the buildings and
35:27 energy one
35:28 um you know whether lighting needs to be
35:30 included or not just so small and such a
35:32 small percentage of these overall uh
35:34 greenhouse gas producers so I you know
35:37 wonder if that might just be make more
35:39 sense keeping commercial residential
35:40 industrial it almost just looks like a
35:42 very thin line you can hardly tell I
35:44 don't even know if it has the ability to
35:46 hover over it I guess it does
35:48 bathroom
35:50 yeah and if if you also I mean if you
35:53 all felt that it was more illustrative
35:56 just to give the overalls for because we
35:59 just did the total even for the main
36:01 page and then you click into it and head
36:03 into
36:05 um and head into more detail where
36:07 you're able to see more of that tiny
36:09 little lighting line I think that is
36:11 something that also that we could
36:12 consider and do pretty easily as well
36:16 I think this is a really really good
36:18 point I think about specifically about
36:21 having some of those Target lines or
36:23 trend lines
36:25 um and also being clearer about goal
36:29 from when I think some of the some of
36:30 the tricky things are that we have sort
36:33 of at least from my reading of the plan
36:36 um we don't have necessarily data I
36:38 actually don't have the data on some of
36:40 the original you know reduction from a
36:43 certain a certain Year's number
36:45 um and so until we have that data it's a
36:47 little hard to sort of then draw a trend
36:48 line in here but we can we can
36:50 definitely work to get that and then
36:52 make sure that that goal line is in here
36:54 as well
36:55 cool thank you
36:58 thanks Daniel that's sucking that motion
37:00 that would be super helpful
37:03 oh sorry oh that's right and go ahead
37:06 thank you uh Hey way to go on this Dale
37:10 and your team
37:12 really cool
37:14 um and I want to say as far as going
37:17 backwards and forwards I did notice that
37:19 the numbers at the bottom like the page
37:21 numbers the one on the left so there's
37:25 say page two and then there's 13. I did
37:29 notice if you click on the two the
37:32 smaller number the page number then it
37:35 there's a list that comes up that you
37:37 can navigate around did you notice that
37:39 I didn't okay so maybe that's not as
37:43 noticeable
37:45 um so maybe arrows might be better but
37:48 whatever you guys think
37:50 um and then also
37:54 it's not working on my phone right now
37:55 but I'm guessing that that might come in
37:58 time
37:59 yeah
38:00 yeah cool yeah we're that's one of our
38:03 biggest challenges right now I would say
38:05 with power bi um but honestly with all
38:08 sort of dashboarding software like this
38:10 is that's that's definitely been a
38:11 limitation and so I do think you know
38:14 one of my next steps thinking about the
38:17 sort of some of the simplification stuff
38:18 will be to
38:21 also think about making sure that the
38:23 shape of the dashboard is such that it
38:25 it opens nicely in your Safari or Google
38:28 browser on your phone
38:31 um and and one of the pieces as I as I
38:33 copy it in the in the memo is that it's
38:37 definitely not sitting in the the right
38:38 frame size currently so we're working a
38:41 bit on that um as well which is why you
38:43 got a kind of funny shaped uh front page
38:46 there as we're trying to figure out how
38:47 to to make it fit so I really appreciate
38:49 you noticing that and and yeah I think
38:51 there's a lot that if if you're if
38:54 you're a little patient and willing to
38:55 click around you'll find some of those
38:56 fun things about how to maneuver
38:59 I might the jury is out for me on on how
39:02 much to try to point people to
39:05 um in such a limited way and then how
39:08 much should just kind of let let people
39:10 clip around and sort of figure it out so
39:12 if you I think everyone around around
39:15 the room might have a different opinion
39:17 of that but um it's definitely something
39:18 I've been wrestling with so I appreciate
39:20 you pointing that out
39:22 um but yes it's the maneuverability
39:24 there are a lot of different ways to
39:25 move around so
39:28 yes thank you way to go on this
39:35 I wanted to comment on your natural
39:38 systems and Water Resources page and
39:42 um granted that tree canopy is not
39:45 measured it's what every three or five
39:46 years so this page is never going to
39:48 change for three to five
39:50 but
39:52 um your water resources you can talk
39:53 about water use in the city and there's
39:56 an annual report provided to the state
39:58 of Washington by the water utility and
40:01 you can pull that data pretty easily out
40:03 to see how people are doing in terms of
40:05 conservation and water use and so you
40:08 might want to talk to your water utility
40:10 and I think that's something you can put
40:12 in an annual update because they should
40:14 be doing that and it's required by the
40:16 state to do that so I think it's an easy
40:18 piece of data for you to put in that
40:20 will show more on this page than every
40:23 three you know two percent change in
40:25 three canopy though that's a lot it's
40:27 hard to see that that's a lot but I
40:30 think water conservation if you can say
40:32 per capita usage of water in the city
40:35 has gone down from 300 gallons per day
40:38 per person to
40:42 288 you know just watch that Trend
40:45 happen and then how much water is the
40:47 city totally using not just per person
40:50 use but as a city how much are we using
40:53 no I know we're growing I think that
40:55 kind of data also helps people think
40:57 about water conservation because it
40:59 describes it on here but it doesn't show
41:05 yeah great Point
41:07 um I would say that yeah that Stacy
41:10 that's something for us to both talk
41:11 about it's not a currently a measure
41:13 we've gotten the plan and so right now
41:15 all this does is uh show
41:19 data on gold through the plan
41:22 um so I think that that's a good
41:24 thing to think about adding to this for
41:25 sure
41:29 okay thank you
41:32 um so I love that the climate action
41:35 challenge is is in there and I was just
41:39 thinking the more we can point to it to
41:43 um say hey
41:45 this is how you can help us not only
41:48 meet our goals
41:50 but also help us track our goals
41:55 the better
41:57 so if there's
41:59 if there's other places
42:02 like maybe on each page say
42:05 directs people to The Climate action
42:07 challenge
42:10 if that's not too big of a hassle
42:12 if there's space
42:16 one of the things that I'm thinking this
42:18 is me spitballing here is that I I feel
42:20 like the home page the very the landing
42:22 page should really be much more of a
42:25 feature of what's going on in the
42:26 current year
42:28 um whether that be the current actions
42:29 underway and how you can participate
42:33 and I'm wondering if that could be
42:35 utilized more as a sort of education and
42:38 engagement portion
42:42 to do things but just like what you sort
42:43 of mentioned to sort of highlight
42:44 opportunities to engage
42:47 I love it yeah the more we can get
42:49 people to engage the better
42:57 more questions just on that bottom graph
43:00 is this actually this is correct that
43:03 after next year we only have a handful
43:07 of actions that will be everything will
43:09 be either implemented this year or next
43:12 year and then there's a couple that land
43:13 in 2025
43:15 yeah so Dale and I look through what's
43:18 slated it to be covered this year
43:20 posting that 23-24 budget is about 9
43:23 over 90 of the actions should be
43:25 initiated at the end of 20 24.
43:29 um but as was pointed out earlier I
43:31 think 40 45 actions are actually ongoing
43:35 so we'll still be continuing forward
43:39 um quite a few actions future years plus
43:42 adding in some of those
43:44 and this is not necessarily a dashboard
43:48 question but a more general question
43:51 um just looking at we have goals going
43:52 out 2030 2050
43:54 et cetera
43:57 I think we had asked and I'm not sure
43:59 where it landed like the update
44:00 frequency for climate action plan and
44:02 when the person I believe we'll have to
44:04 take additional action that's at some
44:06 point so curious one what that plan
44:10 looks like in general and then to how
44:13 could that or should that be shared
44:15 because if I was a like just a Community
44:17 member I would look at this oh we're
44:18 gonna be done next year great we're
44:20 going to be there we're going to get all
44:21 our goals like so I just wonder if
44:23 there's some context around what this
44:25 what the current plan means and like
44:28 what time frame is for that
44:30 um because I'm actually curious
44:31 I want to know the answer to like what
44:34 we think that that will like
44:36 so curious on like the yeah the what is
44:39 the the plan for the update process and
44:43 how that might be communicated yeah I
44:45 don't know if we communicate that very
44:48 well here so we could talk about that
44:51 um I was just having this conversation
44:52 with Ann Fletcher earlier this week but
44:56 um it was intended As A Five-Year Plan I
44:58 had originally been planning to have
45:00 kind of a community check-in in 2024
45:04 um doing that ahead of the budget
45:06 proposals would be very valuable so
45:09 probably spring 2024.
45:12 um I think what we'll see is while we
45:14 may have been able to initiate a lot of
45:16 actions
45:17 uh it
45:19 those actions may not be moving the
45:21 needle on our overall targets so using
45:24 that conversation to both prioritize
45:27 what should go forward in a budget for
45:29 25.26 but also seeing if we want to
45:31 shift course we have 80 plus actions in
45:34 this plan maybe we're going to
45:36 prioritize down to a smaller number
45:38 start thinking about what that Plan
45:40 update might look like and how it might
45:42 be structured so that's my thoughts
45:44 right now is a kind of community
45:46 check-in early 2024 so that we can be
45:49 really strategic going forward with the
45:51 budget in the next couple years
45:53 implementation
45:54 but also we can have more of that
45:57 conversation in early January or
45:59 December when we're going to talk about
46:07 that any other
46:09 comments or questions from the board
46:15 I just say I would just like to say
46:16 thank you and way to go it's beautiful
46:20 yeah thank you Dale thank you
46:22 yeah thank you all
46:25 yeah was there any other questions or
46:27 feedback that you were hoping for from
46:29 us no this has all been very helpful um
46:33 I think my next steps are incorporate
46:35 some of this feedback
46:37 um but a big old page of notes right now
46:41 um and so
46:42 you know we'll we'll follow up
46:45 um in communication I'll follow up also
46:46 with Stacy with just sort of hear the
46:49 high levels of what I heard and hear are
46:51 the changes that are going to happen as
46:52 a result of that
46:54 um I think one of the big things you'll
46:55 probably notice the next time you see
46:57 this thing uh is that the the landing
47:01 page is going to be pretty dramatically
47:02 different
47:03 um I think the visuals on it with the
47:04 exception of the gauge
47:06 um are going away and are going to be
47:08 rethought a bit
47:09 um and so that's something to just be on
47:11 the lookout for um it'll it'll look a
47:13 little different the next time you see
47:15 it but I really appreciate the the
47:17 feedback is always from this group
47:20 um and it's been great to be uh back
47:22 here uh virtually with you tonight
47:28 thank you though I I am not going to
47:30 attempt to summarize everything we
47:32 talked about and I think we'll just have
47:34 to follow up with the what Stacy and
47:37 Dale uh come up with i i my memory
47:40 doesn't expand to the number of pieces
47:42 of feedback so I think I'm gonna give
47:45 myself a pass on that one but uh thank
47:48 you Dale and we'll look forward to
47:50 Stacy do you have anything yeah just
47:52 question around timeline so
47:54 um I think we were hoping to launch this
47:56 before the end of the year as you know
47:58 our meetings are pretty packed full do
48:01 you all want this to come back to you we
48:03 could do it at maybe our special meeting
48:05 in December or you want to provide any
48:08 additional feedback over email how would
48:11 the board like to continue the
48:13 conversation and kind of
48:14 somewhat sign off or at least give the
48:17 thumbs up that this is ready to go to
48:18 the public
48:20 I'd like to say I'd like to see it
48:22 launched and if there's more tweaks that
48:25 want to be made along the way then
48:27 I'm sure she could do that be able to do
48:29 that right
48:33 any other comments don't go ahead I
48:35 think we should get another chance to
48:36 look at it on email before it goes live
48:38 I'm
48:39 sorry I'm the commenting Gail I've been
48:42 panning through it on an iPad here on
48:45 Safari and it's just not cooperating for
48:47 me so
48:49 no worries yeah I this link
48:52 um will always be live for you all so as
48:55 I'll make updates in the coming weeks
48:58 um planning to spend a lot of time in
49:00 there on Friday in particular of this
49:02 week
49:03 um but we can absolutely let you all
49:04 know when we've got this uh sort of next
49:07 round of feedback implemented and you
49:10 all can take a look at it again
49:13 that sounds great yeah we'll send that
49:15 out over email and if anyone wants us to
49:18 come back and walk through it with the
49:20 board before the end of the year we can
49:21 do that
49:23 um but yeah that's the other thing too I
49:25 think we can also make additional
49:26 between
49:26 weeks to it after it goes
49:29 yes we can always make tweaks that's
49:31 that's the like one of my big feelings
49:35 um as a bureaucrat is that we gotta
49:37 break down this idea that once something
49:39 is out there in the world it can't be
49:41 changed
49:42 um so please please know that you can
49:45 always reach out to me and email me
49:46 about things that you think could be
49:48 improved about any of these
49:49 communication tools and we'll
49:51 incorporate that feedback and make it
49:53 make it work better
49:59 well thank you everyone I think with
50:01 that we will be moving on to our next
50:04 item on the agenda uh which is the
50:08 annual report input
50:10 um that everybody will be
50:13 and laid on
50:20 thank you
50:25 all right I know it's October but
50:28 um with our November meetings being very
50:30 fall and then we had some adjustments to
50:33 this meeting that we'll talk in a little
50:34 bit
50:35 um we thought it'd be useful to use the
50:37 time tonight to not off one of these
50:40 items that would have been crammed into
50:42 a November meeting so what I wanted to
50:45 talk through tonight was kind of an
50:48 outline or draft annual report
50:52 um and get some initial feedback on it
50:54 particularly around the survey so the
50:57 draft report was included in
51:01 in your packet as a reminder it's due to
51:03 council at the end of the year
51:06 um we're I'm going to walk through the
51:08 sections of the report real quick just
51:11 take any general input on any of those
51:14 sections in the additions feedback and
51:17 then specifically did want to talk about
51:19 the self announced this I definitely
51:22 welcome additional feedback on the
51:24 report over email
51:27 s or so before we bring it back to you
51:29 all on December
51:32 um so the structure that we followed for
51:35 the report is the same as last year
51:37 Council really liked the format and the
51:40 report that was submitted last year so
51:41 we kept it the same and essentially it
51:43 just follows the different sections of
51:45 the IMC and then I went through and did
51:47 some updates so the first section is
51:50 about how the board was involved in
51:53 providing feedback on plans regulations
51:55 and codes so going back through our
51:59 agendas over the last 10 months provided
52:02 a brief summary of the different
52:04 planning
52:05 plans
52:07 the next section is on written
52:09 statements or reports so I spoke a bit
52:12 about the letters that we provided
52:15 through formal letters and also that a
52:18 process that we're going to follow to
52:19 ensure that there's a feedback loop
52:22 going forward
52:24 the next section section three is around
52:27 research and best practices I haven't
52:29 edited this yet so looking for looking
52:31 for any additional feedback that folks
52:36 section four is around the natural
52:39 environment checklist which we talked
52:40 about at our last meeting so summarize
52:43 the discussions there
52:46 and then the board did request our last
52:48 name that we include a summary of the
52:52 checklist in new format that we're going
52:54 to propose to use going forward I mean
52:57 that that's included within this report
52:59 so I'll be working with our CPD team to
53:02 develop that and provide to you with the
53:04 updated direct report in December
53:09 Section 5 summarizes the comments that
53:11 we've had on the icap
53:15 s in section six is somewhat repetitive
53:18 of section two it is also summarizing
53:21 recommendations
53:23 meant to be less formal than the letters
53:25 but I just will begin to the letters and
53:27 then also
53:32 and then seven and eight are about
53:34 submitting the report
53:37 doing a self-analysis and then carrying
53:39 out other duties as
53:43 so if folks have had a chance to look at
53:45 this have items they want to make sure
53:48 are included things they want to remove
53:51 would welcome that feedback first and
53:53 then we can talk
54:04 Stacey are there any particular any
54:07 particular areas that you think are
54:09 and other than the self-analysis that
54:11 you think
54:12 is a particular like fork in the road
54:15 that we should talk about or no the only
54:18 one I wasn't sure what to include there
54:20 was the review research and best
54:22 practices to advise on environmental
54:24 policies and code it looks like last
54:26 year I know
54:27 um the EV charging ordinance was a major
54:30 topic but there was a lot of research
54:32 and different codes reviewed
54:35 so I could keep it they do from last
54:38 year we did talk about the title 18
54:39 review so I can mention some of the
54:42 other plans that were viewed but I
54:43 didn't have anything that really jumped
54:45 to mind specifically for that section
54:47 but
54:48 if others have things that they want to
54:51 make sure are captured here
54:54 a question for you on the title of your
54:56 sorry number four there that's a rather
54:59 lengthy title to number four because it
55:01 would have to be that or can you it's
55:04 true yeah it's directly pulled from the
55:07 IMC
55:09 so I could try and I could shorten it
55:12 just thinking this for like a council
55:15 member reading this and I'm looking at
55:16 that going no I'm good
55:22 yeah we could probably take out the
55:23 second sentence
55:25 that has more of the details around it
55:27 but
55:38 I can give folks time to review it and
55:41 if there are any additions things you
55:43 want taken out
55:45 I forgot to include definitely like
55:47 those
55:49 um and then the other item I did want to
55:52 talk about is the self-analysis we are
55:54 supposed to do that each year and I
55:56 believe Gene sent out a survey to all
56:00 last year
56:01 um so I put three options forward in our
56:03 memo
56:04 one was to do a survey like that um like
56:07 we did last year
56:09 and I think that's a way to do it
56:11 Anonymous you can do it on your own time
56:13 it doesn't really allow for any
56:15 interaction or discussion or reflection
56:17 on the comments
56:19 at the time they're made the other
56:21 option would be discussion at one of our
56:23 meetings
56:25 it's not Anonymous but it would allow us
56:27 to kind of engage in a conversation
56:28 together as noted we don't have a lot of
56:31 extra time in our upcoming meetings but
56:34 we could definitely make that happen
56:36 um and then the third option
56:39 um was to have Billy and myself maybe
56:41 reach out to each of you one-on-one have
56:43 a conversation kind of do a survey over
56:46 the phone if you
56:48 if you get a little bit more active
56:49 would be happy to do that
56:51 or I'm welcome to other ideas on how
56:54 folks want to do this
56:57 looking for some people
57:05 the last thing maybe it would be good if
57:08 we had I like the idea of doing it in
57:10 person so we could all discuss it but
57:12 also we could allow people to like
57:15 um an honest anonymously
57:17 um write some feedback like maybe on a
57:19 piece of paper or something like that
57:20 just so they have that option
57:23 video
57:25 Cameron go ahead yeah I was just going
57:28 to say the same thing I like one and two
57:31 basically creating a uh an anonymous uh
57:35 discussion and then maybe the top
57:37 three or five whatever it is
57:58 I agree with what you guys said
58:03 thank you
58:05 does that mean your suggestion as well
58:07 as when or that variation
58:09 oh yeah
58:15 good all right so maybe I'll plan to
58:19 send out a survey in
58:22 November we could present the results of
58:24 the in the report in December and then
58:27 schedule a conversation January would
58:29 that work for folks to skip in our
58:31 limited time or we can see if we can
58:34 squeeze it into our January meeting as
58:35 well
58:37 okay
58:43 okay basically if you want to send this
58:45 you can send this to us to be a word I
58:47 would be happy to send it back to you
58:50 with
58:50 a video turned on
58:56 okay great okay
59:03 I think so is there anything else on and
59:05 no report input
59:07 no I'll send that document out um and
59:11 we're going to look for any additional
59:12 input via email and then also plan to
59:15 look for that amount of that survey to
59:17 come out to you all in early November
59:20 um and then we'll plan to finalize the
59:22 report with the survey results in
59:24 December and we'll schedule a discussion
59:26 on the survey results either in December
59:28 or January
59:31 okay well I think with that we moved to
59:35 our next section our reports and I think
59:37 Stacy you may have
59:39 first report the icap report that I
59:42 believe is for Council for example
59:45 yeah great
59:48 um so in your packet
59:51 um was the ipap report that I
59:53 transmitted to council for their October
59:55 3rd meeting
59:58 we'll likely continue to do reports to
1:00:00 council about two times a year just to
1:00:03 keep them updated on the various actions
1:00:06 and implementation status
1:00:08 um hopefully nothing in there was a
1:00:10 surprise to you all I've tried to
1:00:12 provide those updates to you monthly but
1:00:15 there were a few things that have
1:00:16 evolved over the last
1:00:18 few weeks that I didn't just want to
1:00:20 highlight for you all and then can take
1:00:22 questions on the report
1:00:25 um so our clean buildings program
1:00:27 um we are this is working with existing
1:00:30 buildings on Energy Efficiency we are in
1:00:33 full swing uh we're working on
1:00:35 developing a detailed marketing plan
1:00:37 which will involve a lot of one-on-one
1:00:39 Outreach the buildings through building
1:00:42 owners through utility mailings phone
1:00:44 calls emails
1:00:46 meeting in-person meetings we're also
1:00:49 working to set up a series of
1:00:50 presentations with groups that represent
1:00:53 building owners
1:00:55 years
1:00:56 we're also meeting with a couple
1:00:58 different building owners to see if
1:01:00 they'll step up as an investor for the
1:01:02 program and help us
1:01:03 ERS we met with the school district
1:01:06 yesterday
1:01:07 and we're going to begin benchmarking
1:01:09 their buildings over the next month or
1:01:12 so um
1:01:14 on the way which is really exciting
1:01:17 for our climate vulnerability assessment
1:01:19 we're initiating a few smaller focus
1:01:22 group
1:01:23 meetings over the coming weeks these are
1:01:27 with Community groups where we've
1:01:30 identified them as potentially at higher
1:01:32 risk for climate impacts and really
1:01:33 hearing from them about concerns how
1:01:35 they're preparing what their needs are
1:01:37 from the city next week we have a
1:01:40 workshop at the senior center
1:01:42 small numbers for registration yet so if
1:01:45 you know anyone
1:01:46 that's attending that please spread the
1:01:48 word that's on Monday
1:01:50 um and then we are also playing
1:01:54 which is the density right at High Point
1:01:56 uh going out with our Behavioral Health
1:01:59 Specialists next Wednesday to meet
1:02:05 a quick update on our heat pump campaign
1:02:07 we've had over 400 people attend the
1:02:10 five workshops that have been held since
1:02:13 July and those are representatives from
1:02:15 across the five cities that are
1:02:17 participating participating in the
1:02:19 program we have just scheduled another
1:02:22 series of workshops to happen between
1:02:24 now and year
1:02:26 about 28 to 25 of the participants have
1:02:29 been from Issaquah
1:02:32 the program is going facing some good
1:02:38 challenges I'd say with the inflation
1:02:39 production act there's a lot of great
1:02:42 benefits coming out of that act and we
1:02:44 want to encourage the residents to take
1:02:46 advantage of the rebates incentives
1:02:48 under the IRA
1:02:50 it may end up causing some challenges
1:02:52 for our installers and having a lot of
1:02:56 demand in early in the new year so we're
1:02:58 working closely with them to prepare
1:03:01 them for that
1:03:03 um but also really wanted to educate our
1:03:05 community around the IRA benefits so as
1:03:09 we learn more about inflation reduction
1:03:14 and affirmation along to the community
1:03:19 um for our affordable Housing
1:03:21 Partnership for the heat comp program we
1:03:24 are still waiting on the King County
1:03:26 Housing Authority to evaluate the isafar
1:03:29 Imagine housing complex King County
1:03:32 Housing Authority will go in and do a
1:03:34 poll weatherization
1:03:37 update to the building along with ePub
1:03:40 installations
1:03:42 um using all of the funding that they
1:03:44 can and then essentially the city will
1:03:45 cover any difference so that process is
1:03:49 also taking a little bit longer but the
1:03:51 benefit of it is going to be much
1:03:53 greater than originally anticipated
1:03:55 because we'll be providing that whole
1:03:57 weatherization update and not just keep
1:04:04 we have also received State funding for
1:04:08 a market rate rebate as well as
1:04:11 additional low income probably focused
1:04:14 on the single family installs we're
1:04:17 working on a lot of the administrative
1:04:18 components for that project but plan to
1:04:21 launch it in January
1:04:26 Stacy could you explain
1:04:28 the market rate market rate would be a
1:04:32 rebate that would be open to
1:04:34 non-income
1:04:37 right now a lot of the city spending to
1:04:41 help pay for installations is in the
1:04:43 supporting low income some of this grant
1:04:46 will support up to the moderate income
1:04:49 as well and then the market rate will be
1:04:53 to provide those that aren't
1:04:55 okay so there may end up being a cap
1:04:57 that aligns with the rebates under the
1:05:00 inflation and reduction at a salary
1:05:02 income cap but it would allow most of
1:05:06 the residents to qualify for those
1:05:08 rebates so our goal is to stack the
1:05:11 rebate so with inflation reduction act
1:05:13 with our gemsco
1:05:16 rebate with City rebates through the
1:05:19 grants and
1:05:21 really that they can for them
1:05:23 right
1:05:26 um and then we are working with um as it
1:05:29 was reported in the report we're working
1:05:31 with PSE and their Community solar
1:05:33 program
1:05:35 um for our potential installation of the
1:05:36 community center we had a great meeting
1:05:38 with them last week and we're moving
1:05:41 into a site visit for our solar array on
1:05:45 the community center they'll then go
1:05:47 through and install our bid process site
1:05:49 design permitting legal review Council
1:05:53 approval assuming we don't put any
1:05:55 roadblocks for any of those phases we do
1:06:00 anticipate in Solutions can you do solar
1:06:02 installation happening
1:06:05 um just following a roof replacement on
1:06:07 the community center next year if you're
1:06:10 not familiar with the community solar
1:06:12 program it's a psc's program that allows
1:06:14 residents to subscribe directly into
1:06:17 purchasing solar power
1:06:19 so it's especially very beneficial for
1:06:22 folks of women both site family that
1:06:24 might not be able to make those
1:06:27 decisions about putting solar on their
1:06:28 own home so we're excited to potentially
1:06:32 be part of that program
1:06:34 so those are just a few updates that I
1:06:37 wanted to provide since that report was
1:06:38 sent to council but I want to see if
1:06:40 there are any questions about any items
1:06:43 in our report and go ahead this is
1:06:45 really cool uh the community solar
1:06:48 program and do you know what size it is
1:06:52 they're looking at the whole room which
1:06:55 I think there's 23
1:06:58 000 square feet I think is what they're
1:07:00 estimating
1:07:01 um in terms of
1:07:03 how many people would be able to
1:07:04 subscribe to it I don't know those
1:07:06 numbers but we might know more after
1:07:09 great
1:07:11 go ahead I did I tried to do one of
1:07:13 these at a community center in another
1:07:15 city just make sure you have structural
1:07:17 strength down the wind loads we had we
1:07:20 had grants and it didn't work
1:07:23 so make sure somebody's looking at the
1:07:25 roofing position
1:07:27 s it's very sad when you don't do that
1:07:29 stuff okay great yeah we will make sure
1:07:32 to mention that when they're out in two
1:07:33 weeks
1:07:34 is it a metal group I don't know I'm not
1:07:43 all right oh Tom sorry
1:07:46 so I wasn't hear what you were going to
1:07:49 do at Kent City Florida
1:07:51 yeah we're um so heard that climate
1:07:54 vulnerability assessment we were
1:07:57 um we've broken it up into a couple
1:08:00 of words Outreach opportunities with the
1:08:03 community so we've held public workshops
1:08:05 are held a public workshop and then we
1:08:08 were also planning to do smaller
1:08:10 workshops or focus group meetings with
1:08:14 um a few uh
1:08:17 with various residents of the community
1:08:21 for climate impacts so
1:08:24 we identified Senior Center uh homeless
1:08:27 community
1:08:29 an English-speaking community
1:08:32 who's the ones off the top of my head so
1:08:36 um we met with the city's Behavioral
1:08:38 Health team and they recommended that we
1:08:41 try and reach out to ten City or we may
1:08:44 do something else with the meal
1:08:46 the meal so our goal is to talk to
1:08:48 Residents have informal conversations
1:08:51 hear how different climate events impact
1:08:55 them what they do to stay safe
1:08:59 and then also what they need from the
1:09:02 in order to support them during future
1:09:06 impact
1:09:10 so you'll make sure they know about the
1:09:12 cooling centers
1:09:16 are there warming centers as well as
1:09:18 clothing centers I don't know if we do I
1:09:20 think the library has done something
1:09:22 they've gotten on my camera I can't
1:09:24 remember who the gentleman that joined a
1:09:26 few meetings ago I remember mentioning
1:09:28 that yeah
1:09:32 I can't remember if they're Community
1:09:34 Center I know there's some Partnerships
1:09:36 with the school district too
1:09:38 warming or Cooling
1:09:42 one question for you Stacy do we
1:09:44 consider Wildfire smoke a climate that
1:09:48 like impact we are talking about it yeah
1:09:54 yeah so you could give them n95s
1:10:02 we're gonna bring something to
1:10:05 work well
1:10:09 right I mean oh sorry oh no
1:10:15 I think that everyone then unless I'm I
1:10:18 need to keep my eyes
1:10:21 um well I think with that
1:10:27 I'm not doing budget updates oh sorry
1:10:29 budget update that's an important item
1:10:31 we should talk about that
1:10:33 okay where I put that
1:10:43 all right I did just put a couple slides
1:10:45 to focus on some visuals for this and
1:10:47 then we got some updates since the
1:10:49 packet went out as well
1:10:51 um so I I did send out an email update
1:10:53 with some information on the budget
1:10:55 process but uh we'll be aware it is in
1:10:58 swing
1:11:00 um and we do have a two-year budget this
1:11:04 um the icap budget
1:11:07 that was submitted for 23-24 is really
1:11:09 intended to reflect our needs for short
1:11:12 and medium-term actions as well as get
1:11:15 the ball
1:11:16 for some of those longer term actions
1:11:18 action to get started now
1:11:21 um as we mentioned with the presentation
1:11:22 with Dale by the end of 2024 we do
1:11:25 anticipate initiating approximately 90
1:11:29 of the icap actions that is just
1:11:32 initiating them that is not
1:11:35 indicative of where we will be in terms
1:11:37 of meeting our targets but we will be
1:11:39 tracking that very closely see
1:11:43 so highlights of some of the items
1:11:45 included in the budget sustainability
1:11:48 coordinator and my vision for that
1:11:51 position is that they would
1:11:53 be Municipal operations so working on
1:11:55 our buildings our Fleet those types of
1:11:58 items we also have funding requests in
1:12:05 Energy Efficiency in buildings and
1:12:08 advancing electrification
1:12:10 Green Building
1:12:12 and then expanding EB charging
1:12:15 infrastructure and then implementing
1:12:17 some of the work that we're starting
1:12:19 this year with the vulnerability
1:12:20 assessment this is very high level
1:12:22 snapshot a lot of additional items that
1:12:25 are in that budget and shown in the
1:12:27 budget packet
1:12:29 stated
1:12:30 um Anne had a question yeah go ahead
1:12:33 so I was watching city council meeting
1:12:36 and then wake up like a big presentation
1:12:39 all good stuff
1:12:41 um so
1:12:44 it seems like there are questions about
1:12:48 retrofitting the city buildings and and
1:12:51 how expensive that was going to be and
1:12:53 you'd only be able to do one building or
1:12:55 you know like how would you be able to
1:12:57 do with the funds that you had and it
1:13:01 made me think about
1:13:04 how we've been
1:13:06 you know how we over the years have been
1:13:12 making our house more energy efficiently
1:13:15 airtight and and there's definitely some
1:13:19 low heating fruit that it seems like
1:13:21 what you do to all of them just to make
1:13:22 sure that you know all the coughing is
1:13:24 done that
1:13:26 there's no air coming in under the doors
1:13:29 you know just feeling all the cracks
1:13:32 I don't know if that's an issue with the
1:13:34 the municipal buildings or not but that
1:13:36 would I know windows are expensive and
1:13:38 insulation is expensive
1:13:41 and keep up you know switching out if
1:13:43 something's not broken is expensive but
1:13:45 that if that is an issue of any
1:13:48 buildings maybe that could be just done
1:13:50 all of them yeah absolutely yeah
1:13:54 I can maybe I'll just give books a
1:13:57 little background on what happens Monday
1:13:59 but yeah absolutely address that so
1:14:02 um there was a meeting this week with
1:14:04 city council where we talked about the
1:14:06 sustainability fund um if folks are
1:14:08 familiar with the sustainability fund it
1:14:11 comes from the admin fee or our waste
1:14:14 hauler contract
1:14:16 um so the city has a fee that's charged
1:14:19 to Recology it's passed down to the
1:14:22 residents in most cases and it has been
1:14:25 going into a fund that's been used for a
1:14:28 variety of sustainability initiatives
1:14:30 it's helping to support our low income
1:14:33 income program as well as
1:14:37 um so Council had asked staff to have a
1:14:40 conversation about whether we should
1:14:42 consider
1:14:44 increase on the percentage of that fee
1:14:47 from what was currently proposed on the
1:14:50 23-24 budget
1:14:52 um that was the conversation that we had
1:14:54 on Monday
1:14:57 the fee that would be raising the fee
1:15:00 from six percent to nine percent it
1:15:02 would generate about three hundred
1:15:03 thousand dollars a year it is about a
1:15:08 two dollar increase per resident on
1:15:11 their bill which doesn't sound like a
1:15:15 lot but there are going to be some
1:15:17 substantial increases on the Recology
1:15:19 bills next year because of additional
1:15:22 fees that are coming in from the county
1:15:24 because it's a new contract and we were
1:15:26 on had a really good deal with them for
1:15:28 the last 10 years
1:15:30 so the
1:15:32 fees that will be passed down to
1:15:34 residents are going to be more
1:15:39 um some folks are already going to see a
1:15:41 huge increase
1:15:42 summer and there was a lot of inserting
1:15:44 from staff
1:15:47 about
1:15:51 um but we did have a discussion about
1:15:53 what we could use those funds for if we
1:15:56 did have some additional funding coming
1:15:59 in there was a lot of interest
1:16:02 particularly from Council number 10
1:16:04 around putting some of those funds
1:16:06 towards Municipal retrofits and I think
1:16:09 we actually could even if 300 000 or a
1:16:12 portion of that we could do something
1:16:14 with our buildings
1:16:16 um I think the administration is
1:16:17 interested in waiting until our Fleet
1:16:21 study is completed um and we're also
1:16:24 going through a facility assessment and
1:16:27 a big organization study and coming out
1:16:30 of those studies with the
1:16:33 proposal for our Capital Improvement
1:16:35 plan or a one-time pass to council is
1:16:38 also another option so so no final
1:16:41 decision was made on this um
1:16:44 uh but I think most of the counselors
1:16:47 kind of moving away from having the nine
1:16:50 percent increase just because of that
1:16:51 impacted as it is it is something that
1:16:53 could be changed annually so it might be
1:16:55 something that we consider putting in
1:16:57 place to
1:16:59 2024 in order to build up
1:17:09 yeah I mean
1:17:11 those heat sensing guns like if you
1:17:14 don't want to spend the money to do the
1:17:16 reverse
1:17:17 suction airflow so you can see where the
1:17:21 leaks are
1:17:22 which is really cool because we don't
1:17:23 always know those heat guns you know
1:17:26 really well to make it that team cold so
1:17:28 you can see what it really designed with
1:17:30 that that would be very
1:17:32 cost effective if you keep using it over
1:17:35 and over yeah absolutely McDonald Miller
1:17:37 will be coming out to do a full
1:17:40 assessment as part of this request form
1:17:42 Council for the community center to kind
1:17:44 of give us overall if we wanted to
1:17:46 complete really decarbonize even for
1:17:49 solar and producing your solar program
1:17:51 didn't work out what might the cost be
1:17:52 and then we can
1:17:54 maybe that we have
1:18:01 a fancy code
1:18:03 so I know we have TV stations in the
1:18:07 community some many of which don't work
1:18:11 so who owns these and it's going to
1:18:13 maintain notice yeah so the city owns
1:18:16 three we have been working since early
1:18:20 spring on getting those replaced and
1:18:22 some new ones in so we are under
1:18:25 contract now with chargepoint and Puget
1:18:27 Sound solar to both replace and then put
1:18:30 in some new ones we are currently
1:18:32 putting out for bid the actual Street
1:18:35 work to do that
1:18:37 um so we are hoping by the end of the
1:18:39 year those will be in our
1:18:41 in the New Year it's just taking some
1:18:43 time to get all those contracts in place
1:18:45 who owns those who thinks so the city
1:18:47 owns them right now
1:18:49 um they will move and the city's been
1:18:52 providing those at no charge
1:18:55 um so we will be upgrading the existing
1:18:57 ones okay
1:19:00 um actually two at the community Center
1:19:02 is one of the first
1:19:05 we'll likely be moving to a service with
1:19:08 chargepoint where they would go on and
1:19:10 maintain them but they'd work with the
1:19:12 city set the feed
1:19:14 um so it's not a huge burning on our
1:19:15 public border staff who have been having
1:19:17 to manage the exists
1:19:19 so that is what's proposed right now we
1:19:22 um are also talking about doing some
1:19:24 kind of
1:19:25 kind of crowdsourcing or Community
1:19:27 engagement event ideas
1:19:30 of chargers and where they should go
1:19:33 right now we're looking at um Community
1:19:36 Center replacing the Highlands
1:19:38 one for our police
1:19:41 um possibly Pickering barn and although
1:19:43 we've also talked about one here but
1:19:46 here yeah
1:19:49 and as you pursue things like
1:19:54 solar panels on buildings to municipal
1:19:57 buildings who will open the maintain
1:19:59 those yeah so so can we just see I know
1:20:01 maintenance is a big hobby yeah so
1:20:03 that's why yeah that's why we're trying
1:20:06 to build the easy way with the EB
1:20:07 Chargers
1:20:08 um so the community solar program PSE
1:20:11 would own and maintain those if that
1:20:13 doesn't move forward
1:20:15 um if they are put on a municipal
1:20:17 building that would be the city's
1:20:19 responsibility would have to
1:20:23 build so ultimately would they end up in
1:20:25 the public works department to call the
1:20:27 people up to maintain or are they going
1:20:29 to be your responsible
1:20:31 I'm asking the question yeah I think
1:20:33 it's easy to build it's very hard to say
1:20:37 I own this I'm responsible for it and
1:20:39 thus I need to make sure it's taken care
1:20:41 of and that's why I'm asking the
1:20:43 questions who owns these yeah well for
1:20:46 that and we haven't identified any sites
1:20:48 so but that would be I would see through
1:20:51 facilities and that's why I'm working
1:20:53 very closely with facilities they have
1:20:55 to be fully on board and have the train
1:20:58 staff and budget to maintain them so
1:21:00 it's a great question it's not one that
1:21:03 would happen in my style or public works
1:21:05 but I'm really trying to work across the
1:21:07 city there's physical support great
1:21:10 question
1:21:11 that's it
1:21:13 um I I had a question comment
1:21:17 well I guess that's my question is a
1:21:19 comment um on the previous slide around
1:21:22 the edition of a sustainability
1:21:24 coordinator and some of your description
1:21:25 around what that sustainability
1:21:27 coordinator might do
1:21:30 um one of the things obviously it would
1:21:33 be great for the city to take on
1:21:35 projects kind of in addition to what is
1:21:37 like just necessary for a building to to
1:21:41 retrofit or enhance a building one of
1:21:44 the things that I am really curious
1:21:46 about is is ongoing purchasing so the
1:21:48 things that are going to be purchased
1:21:49 anyways what is the and I think this is
1:21:53 something that we'll probably talk about
1:21:54 next year
1:21:55 but who is going to be the person that
1:21:58 helps coordinate or purchasing new
1:22:00 vehicles we're purchasing new lawn up or
1:22:03 a landscaping equipment like how is that
1:22:06 all of those items that there's already
1:22:08 dollars associated with the dollars are
1:22:10 going to get spent
1:22:12 how are we making sure that the dollars
1:22:13 are being spent in a way that
1:22:18 obviously they have to meet the need of
1:22:20 what the city needs with that particular
1:22:22 thing but
1:22:25 um that is just something that
1:22:27 I I would be concerned if we were
1:22:30 relying on each individual Department to
1:22:32 figure out what that means
1:22:34 um so I do wonder where and maybe if
1:22:36 that should be a part of that role as
1:22:38 well as your world because I've just
1:22:40 been concerned I think that's a really
1:22:41 important thing it doesn't require
1:22:43 additional spending necessarily
1:22:45 um and I I do think that as we think
1:22:48 about not only this role but also just
1:22:51 like our work plan that's something that
1:22:53 I really am interested in
1:22:56 understanding more how the city is
1:22:58 thinking about the purchasing and how
1:23:01 there's an environmental lens or a
1:23:03 climate lens applied to purchasing
1:23:05 decision
1:23:07 absolutely yeah and that was one of many
1:23:10 things I meant by if you do look at the
1:23:13 proposed budget you won't see those
1:23:15 specific policies filled out because
1:23:17 they're covered by the staff time so
1:23:19 they're within the staff request I guess
1:23:21 um purchasing is we do have an igap a
1:23:24 sustainable purchasing policy I have
1:23:27 that on the work plan for next year and
1:23:28 a couple placeholders for this board so
1:23:31 keep pushing us to make sure if we get
1:23:34 there I think that's going to be a hard
1:23:36 and complicated one
1:23:39 um so we're going to need a lot of
1:23:40 support and input from this board but
1:23:42 yeah great
1:23:44 space and go ahead
1:23:46 so just a question am I hearing the
1:23:49 heater on over here
1:23:51 uh it might be the fans from the
1:23:54 background
1:23:55 like an air purifier oh there might be
1:23:57 an air purifier I think the Fan's in the
1:23:59 bathroom so I was just thinking that's
1:24:01 one way to save a lot of energy is just
1:24:02 not have the heater and the air
1:24:04 conditioning put it on
1:24:09 that's good as a fan
1:24:16 let's see any other items that you
1:24:19 wanted to cover on
1:24:20 this topic yeah just for Budget wanted
1:24:23 to update folks on the schedule so there
1:24:25 has been a change there was meant to be
1:24:27 another Committee of the whole Council
1:24:30 Committee of the whole deliberation I
1:24:32 believe it was um on October 25th they
1:24:36 have Administration has canceled that
1:24:38 meeting it looks really tiny up here
1:24:40 sorry
1:24:41 um it's been canceled and budget items
1:24:44 are moved to October 17th which is their
1:24:47 regular council meeting I also wanted to
1:24:50 flag October 17th because council is
1:24:52 also supposed to talk about their
1:24:54 legislative priorities so that might be
1:24:56 an interesting meeting
1:25:01 so next Monday I believe
1:25:04 um and then they are as of now intending
1:25:07 for um
1:25:09 public hearing and potential budget
1:25:12 adoption November 7th I'll keep folks
1:25:14 updated
1:25:22 any questions on the schedule
1:25:26 or any other Insight from Monday sounds
1:25:28 like you listened in last Monday
1:25:33 that I can think of I think it's great
1:25:35 that you're going to get a
1:25:37 sustainability coordinator that is
1:25:39 really huge all these things are really
1:25:42 confusion I feel really happy about it
1:25:45 you feel good about yeah yeah I feel
1:25:48 very lucky to have a budget to work with
1:25:50 I know a lot of my
1:25:54 I guess just one question on a topic
1:25:56 were these the requests or this is what
1:25:58 is being
1:25:59 proposal or being
1:26:01 proposed for adoption like what is on
1:26:04 the icat proposed budget I mean these
1:26:06 businesses proposed but just curious
1:26:08 like what does that mean is that like
1:26:10 what you're requesting or what you
1:26:11 actually are that's what I've requested
1:26:13 yeah yes yeah and a lot more detail in
1:26:16 the budget um
1:26:21 would it help if we um
1:26:23 wrote letters to the council and
1:26:25 supported this
1:26:28 um it definitely doesn't hurt
1:26:30 um I don't think there are any we
1:26:32 haven't heard any concerns about
1:26:34 ability requests because we do have that
1:26:37 budget and actually the city's in a
1:26:39 really good position overall so
1:26:42 um there haven't been any concerns
1:26:44 raised about that and submitted some
1:26:47 really great comments and spoke on
1:26:48 Monday
1:26:51 absolutely you are welcome to do that
1:26:54 whatever but at this time
1:27:03 all right well I think with that we can
1:27:06 move on to other business and
1:27:08 announcements if anyone have any
1:27:13 and go ahead I do and I would like to
1:27:18 move and prepare a memo recommending the
1:27:21 Issaquah environmental authorities
1:27:22 virtually November through April and in
1:27:25 person may through October
1:27:33 um let me just check Billy I'm a mute
1:27:36 you I just wanna I know we are recording
1:27:39 but to see if you were able to hear that
1:27:41 it was sent on email it was sent over
1:27:44 you know okay yes I did see it down in
1:27:45 the mail
1:27:46 great and Nancy seconded
1:27:51 great and I'm a little rusty on my
1:27:53 router Scrolls so we'll see how this uh
1:27:55 see how this goes um I believe now
1:27:59 um we have time for discussion of of the
1:28:03 motion that now that it's been a
1:28:05 seconded so
1:28:07 um if you have any comments or
1:28:09 comments and questions on on the motions
1:28:12 please go ahead and indicate that back
1:28:16 both sorry
1:28:20 um I can show me the unmute on YouTube
1:28:25 yeah she has she kind of get it she
1:28:28 wants to speak yeah please uh send me a
1:28:30 message or if you're able to raise your
1:28:32 hand or wave us down if you'd like to
1:28:35 speak at all not on any of you
1:28:38 Cameron you go ahead yes
1:28:40 um I just I think it's a great idea what
1:28:43 the idea of virtual land in person
1:28:46 awesome
1:28:52 and I would hope that in the memo that
1:28:54 we prepare for the mayor that we
1:28:56 indicate that we are an environmental
1:28:58 board and we are trying to do this for
1:29:00 environmental purposes to try and reduce
1:29:03 the in the time we're spending commuting
1:29:07 and the energy use of buildings you know
1:29:10 yeah just doing the right thing
1:29:14 it's also good for health
1:29:16 helps
1:29:17 I would suggest a man to get to allow
1:29:20 for some variation
1:29:22 uh if the board
1:29:24 sees the need how to vary that schedule
1:29:28 but it would be allowed
1:29:31 to work that but
1:29:33 I think there should be room for some
1:29:36 variability but I think Tom would you
1:29:39 like to propose uh Amendment to the
1:29:42 motion
1:29:43 I think that's probably what would need
1:29:45 to happen in the states
1:29:48 uh yes I recommend amending the abortion
1:29:57 [Music]
1:30:06 partial so I read the motion to say uh
1:30:11 to add the clause
1:30:26 or otherwise as voted by a majority of
1:30:31 the environmental board
1:30:36 that does that put too much power in the
1:30:40 hands of the board
1:30:42 I don't know
1:30:45 that's my that's fine
1:30:51 if possible
1:30:53 might be helpful this is just harder I
1:30:56 care about than it is so the specifics I
1:30:58 just want to restate what your
1:31:01 but just the portion that was your
1:31:03 Amendment
1:31:05 at the did you get it Stacy uh well I
1:31:10 had I think Billy's taken enough but
1:31:12 some variation if the
1:31:14 by a majority of the board
1:31:17 listening to come in person
1:31:22 um so I I stated it as kind of a calm
1:31:25 after the statement but I may be history
1:31:28 just remembering how and
1:31:39 I did that
1:31:42 I can call it try and pull it up on this
1:31:44 yeah so and in person may through
1:31:47 October period And I would just change
1:31:50 the period to a comma
1:31:52 or has voted by
1:31:55 a majority of the members of the
1:31:58 environmental Court
1:32:02 hear this Toyota second
1:32:05 Tom's idea
1:32:07 all right now time to discuss just
1:32:09 specifically the amendment
1:32:12 if there's any comment
1:32:15 and I think we should add clause in
1:32:17 there
1:32:18 Stacy's benefit but if she needs us in
1:32:21 person
1:32:23 she could call us in person I'm thinking
1:32:26 special meetings
1:32:27 yeah you might you might want us to be
1:32:30 in person for certain special meetings
1:32:31 so this would be another amendment
1:32:36 or as requested by oriented
1:32:40 sustainability manager
1:32:42 sure yeah
1:32:45 I can't agree with Stacy's right so
1:32:47 that's your second amendment yeah
1:32:56 Almighty and Powerful
1:32:59 the Second Amendment okay
1:33:02 [Laughter]
1:33:05 what's that because they may well
1:33:10 I probably shouldn't be providing it but
1:33:12 I think it's a chair and vice chair all
1:33:14 of it that it's their decision or they
1:33:17 call to come in person versus the staff
1:33:19 liaison no sorry I don't know if I can
1:33:22 understand but it's just the idea
1:33:29 what would you prefer
1:33:31 in your uh
1:33:34 I mean it would simplify things if it
1:33:36 comes from the chair and play Pandora
1:33:38 Vice chair just as we're meeting
1:33:40 protocol
1:33:42 if you have to come in person or not and
1:33:46 I assume that would look something along
1:33:48 the lines of hey we need to come in
1:33:50 person because of blah blah blah let us
1:33:52 know if you have any concerns or issues
1:33:54 around this
1:33:55 we could have a chance to discuss that
1:33:57 via email before the meeting
1:34:01 so is that the modifications here
1:34:14 well we didn't actually have a second I
1:34:16 don't know I guess I guess yeah
1:34:19 so we do this would be an amendment um
1:34:24 so would you did you you want to make an
1:34:26 amendment
1:34:28 do you want to withdraw your Amendment
1:34:29 and make a new one
1:34:31 no I want Stacy to have that power in
1:34:33 there if she needs us to meet in person
1:34:38 I mean well here we could do this if I
1:34:42 change my my Amendment so it would read
1:34:44 or as requested by sustaining the
1:34:46 ability manager and or the chair yeah
1:34:49 perfect
1:34:50 I'll second that
1:34:59 all right so that second amendment is
1:35:01 basically a replaced by
1:35:04 oh no that
1:35:06 never mind it's an addition okay
1:35:09 um any comments on Don's Amendment
1:35:17 all right well then I believe we'll pick
1:35:19 a vote on the uh on the amendment
1:35:23 Stacy would you be able to help us with
1:35:25 something that
1:35:35 so we are voting just on the amendment
1:35:39 the bottom line
1:35:55 so please indicate in favor or opposed
1:35:59 for a while Tommy Anderson all right
1:36:04 I will unmute you
1:36:07 oh he's not letting me okay we have a
1:36:09 thumbs up sorry
1:36:11 um Nancy Davidson hi
1:36:13 Jamie Finch hi Cameron Fisher
1:36:16 appreciate is absent uh Dan hins
1:36:20 aye Laura's absent Ashwin hi Dominic
1:36:24 Williams hi and I am Janet hi
1:36:30 so we have full support for the
1:36:33 amendment
1:36:35 now are we voting on
1:36:37 so I believe now we didn't ever finish
1:36:39 comment
1:36:41 that's a portion of the event so if we
1:36:43 had any comments on
1:36:45 the board is voted by a majority of the
1:36:47 board
1:36:49 take any comments or questions prior to
1:36:52 that requirements of voting
1:36:56 and if not we can go to a vote so Stacy
1:36:59 could help us
1:37:01 so we're voting on the First Amendment
1:37:05 that we would add in or as voted up by a
1:37:07 majority of the board did I capture that
1:37:10 yeah okay
1:37:12 um so please indicate in favor or
1:37:15 opposed uh Tom all right
1:37:20 thumbs up uh Nancy hi Jamie hi Cameron
1:37:31 hi Don hi Anne hi and Jana hi
1:37:41 foreign
1:37:47 [Music]
1:38:09 the one question I have is based on
1:38:12 daylight is May
1:38:17 I guess it kind of is right
1:38:20 daylight savings
1:38:24 I want to throw things off but I was
1:38:27 going to suggest starting meeting in
1:38:28 April but okay
1:38:30 I don't know if I care enough to make it
1:38:32 Amendment
1:38:33 quite honestly I could vote on it next
1:38:38 you're going on the way to close in
1:38:39 April
1:38:43 it would have to be another amendment
1:38:46 the fact that we can vote out and decide
1:38:49 in the future I think is good enough
1:38:51 yeah I think as a matter of process
1:38:54 maybe that's the last thing we'll
1:38:55 discuss City okay what should we do next
1:38:58 Monday to decide
1:39:01 if we want to deviate from the
1:39:03 prescribed uh schedule there but we have
1:39:08 question that a vote on it there it is I
1:39:12 think the challenge with that is the
1:39:13 public we need to know if we're in
1:39:15 person or if we're not oh and so we have
1:39:19 not had citizens participate at the
1:39:22 meetings in person but that is an option
1:39:25 so they need to know what we're doing
1:39:30 so the reason I chose those months
1:39:33 because it divides it six months
1:39:35 placement in half
1:39:37 um but it originally thought of doing
1:39:40 November through March and April
1:39:49 October
1:39:50 I don't think anyone
1:39:53 anyone so I think we're
1:39:55 unless there's any other comments or
1:39:58 questions
1:40:02 we can probably proceed with a vote on
1:40:04 the motion
1:40:07 the station if you want to help us with
1:40:08 that okay
1:40:10 there is no further discussion we are
1:40:12 voting on the full motion inclusive of
1:40:16 the amendments
1:40:18 um so I please indicate in favor or
1:40:21 opposed Tommy
1:40:25 give a thumbs up uh Nancy
1:40:28 aye Jamie hi Cameron
1:40:31 aye machines are out of Dan hi Ashwin
1:40:35 Don hi
1:40:43 so I will prepare a memo uh
1:40:47 for our clerks and the mayor
1:40:49 recommending with this recommendation
1:40:53 um do folks want to review it in advance
1:40:58 or maybe to have the chair and vice
1:41:00 chair or the whole board let's talk
1:41:02 about it on our Tuesday meeting so yeah
1:41:04 I'd be happy to be in on that
1:41:07 there's certain things that I didn't
1:41:08 need to be included in it that the
1:41:10 council may ask like if the chair calls
1:41:12 a in-person meeting once that processor
1:41:17 to build things
1:41:25 all right any other I think we have that
1:41:28 item covered any other business
1:41:31 you have something I have one more item
1:41:34 um but I also wanted to invite folks
1:41:36 that were at the company release maybe
1:41:38 talk about
1:41:42 them before we adjourn
1:41:54 um hopefully most people are familiar
1:41:55 with our Lake Sammamish Kokanee if they
1:41:57 uh very close
1:41:59 non-anatromous uh species are related
1:42:02 species to sockeye salmon
1:42:04 um obviously a culturally huge
1:42:07 um part of the snoqualm Indian tribes uh
1:42:10 ancestral lands and you know was
1:42:12 year-round food source for uh this will
1:42:16 call me Indian tribe you know um with a
1:42:19 lot of our salmon runs being seasonal so
1:42:21 uh this is the first year since 2019
1:42:23 they hosted an in-person release of
1:42:26 coconut fry into Lake Sammamish it was a
1:42:28 really neat ceremony our city visit Club
1:42:30 council member hunt was there and was
1:42:32 talking about some of the lighting
1:42:33 Shoreline lighting initiatives which I
1:42:34 know we've talked about someone's board
1:42:37 um talking about some of the fish
1:42:38 passage work uh going on with some of
1:42:40 the partners city of Sammamish City
1:42:42 Redmond city of Bellevue obviously King
1:42:44 County being very involved leading the
1:42:46 Kokanee working group so yeah really
1:42:49 neat stories it was um really
1:42:52 inspirational to see some of the tribal
1:42:54 members talking about the importance of
1:42:56 these fish in the ceremony before
1:42:57 literally taking a cooler out and about
1:42:59 to the middle of the lake and releasing
1:43:01 them uh right at sunset too which was
1:43:04 um and I think neat stories about
1:43:06 um some of the successes here the
1:43:07 populations for these were the you know
1:43:09 tens and tens of thousands historically
1:43:11 uh in the last five years I mean it's
1:43:13 been as low as 19 counted in Lake
1:43:15 Sammamish so in 2020 one last winter
1:43:19 their count was close to 2000 again
1:43:21 which is you know they're cyclical you
1:43:22 don't want to read too much into high
1:43:23 numbers low numbers but really good uh
1:43:27 really good response especially since
1:43:28 some of the Hatchery practices have
1:43:30 changed they started doing more remote
1:43:31 uh incubators in streams so kind of like
1:43:33 mini hatcheries in actual streams for
1:43:36 Kokanee I think it's important to
1:43:38 remember that the no kind of spawning
1:43:40 streams for coconut you're primarily it
1:43:42 is a quad 2 so Lewis Creek to bits Creek
1:43:45 laughing Jacobs Creek so really really
1:43:48 important opportunities for fish passage
1:43:50 which I know I think some of those
1:43:51 projects are part of the storm water
1:43:52 Master planning
1:43:54 um you know both of the city level the
1:43:56 county level and obviously the state
1:43:57 level really exciting to see
1:43:59 uh Peter who the judge she'll never get
1:44:01 his last name right but was here last
1:44:02 week talking about you know actual uh
1:44:04 Federal infrastructure money going to
1:44:05 fish passions for I think the first time
1:44:07 ever so um really really cool movement
1:44:10 there and good success story seeing
1:44:11 these numbers kind of bounce back with
1:44:12 some of these strategies I think zachies
1:44:14 Creek if you want to read about cities
1:44:16 and Amish is such an amazing story it
1:44:17 essentially replacing the Culvert under
1:44:20 East Lake Sammamish Road and actually
1:44:21 seeing Kokanee spawning Upstream of that
1:44:24 road which has been a barrier for many
1:44:26 many decades so I think there's some
1:44:28 inspiration there in a
1:44:29 [Music]
1:44:31 um you know species that has been on the
1:44:33 brink of Extinction here in the last
1:44:34 little bit
1:44:36 yeah so really cool
1:44:42 sorry in 30 seconds
1:44:44 um just wanted to make sure folks who
1:44:46 are aware of an item that'll be coming
1:44:48 to the
1:44:50 um one of the council committees as well
1:44:52 as hopefully Council before the end of
1:44:53 the year is that we have been working
1:44:56 with four other East Side cities that
1:44:58 we've partnered with on the energy smart
1:45:01 program on developing an interlocal
1:45:03 agreement
1:45:04 it would be a opportunity to solidify
1:45:08 our partnership to collaborate across
1:45:11 multiple electrification and
1:45:13 decarbonization Energy Smart programs
1:45:15 it's intended to be in our local
1:45:18 agreement that will sit below the King
1:45:21 County cities climate collaborative that
1:45:23 people are see
1:45:24 in our local agreement that it would
1:45:27 allow us to formalize our partnership so
1:45:29 that we can work on grants together
1:45:31 share funds administer contracts on
1:45:34 behalf of other cities we were also
1:45:35 talking about having a shared staff
1:45:37 person that would help administer the
1:45:39 program we would open it up to other
1:45:43 cities such as Sammamish if in the
1:45:46 future they're ready to partner
1:45:49 um so we are going to present the
1:45:50 concept of this in our local agreement
1:45:52 to Planning Development Environmental
1:45:54 committee
1:45:55 believe that's November 1st when
1:46:00 the Ila ready to approve her Council in
1:46:03 December or beginning of the year so
1:46:06 I'll send updates to you all I want to
1:46:08 make sure that you're aware before that
1:46:09 does go to the council committee and I
1:46:12 think it's a really great opportunity
1:46:13 for us to formalize the partnership and
1:46:16 allow for a lot more efficiencies so we
1:46:18 can share research resources and
1:46:21 administer
1:46:25 any questions on that
1:46:31 so let me give an example of something
1:46:34 that really collaborate yeah so one
1:46:37 um great well right now the city's
1:46:40 within the um
1:46:43 k4c Ila we are already
1:46:47 administering some contracts on behalf
1:46:50 of the other cities so Bellevue holds
1:46:53 our contract with spark Northwest our
1:46:55 non-profit partner
1:46:57 instead of each of the five cities
1:46:59 having a contract with smart Northwest
1:47:01 and then we're also talking about having
1:47:04 this shared staff person that would
1:47:05 likely sit at Bellevue just because they
1:47:07 have more capacity for the
1:47:09 administrative piece that individual
1:47:12 would work on the energy smart program
1:47:14 on behalf of all five cities so it's
1:47:17 more the we're already doing a lot of
1:47:19 that work this is more formalize it and
1:47:22 show our real commitment to continue
1:47:24 working
1:47:25 yeah thanks and then other cities
1:47:27 indicate course that you can join you as
1:47:29 well as they see fit yeah we're trying
1:47:31 to frame it as well East Side a smaller
1:47:34 T we don't want it to become another p4c
1:47:36 has its role this is real specific for
1:47:40 that shared resources so
1:47:43 there would probably be some limit to it
1:47:45 that were intending it as kind of the
1:47:46 east side so um subgroup of the k-14 and
1:47:51 what cities uh right now it's Kirkland
1:47:53 Redmond Mercer Island Bellevue Issaquah
1:47:56 or doing the energies that keep on
1:47:58 campaign
1:48:03 thanks
1:48:06 all right any other business any other
1:48:08 announcements
1:48:10 well I think the fact that you're a
1:48:12 journey thank you everyone thank you
1:48:14 thank you
1:48:16 very much
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