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City Council Regular Meeting Auto captions

Monday, May 20, 2019

7:00 PM · 2h 8m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topics tracked across meetings:
Transportation Benefit District Funding Options ID 1474 2/4
King Conservation District (KCD) Grant (Lower Issaquah Creek Stream and Riparian Habitat Enhancement Project) AB 7767 1/2
City Council Rules of Procedure AB 7287 1/2
4Culture King County Sustained Support Grant AB 7678 2/2
Section
Topic
3. SPECIAL BUSINESS
3a
Community Fund Update ID 0446
packet pp.5–7
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
Executive Office 130 E. Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3020 issaquahwa.gov
7. CONSENT CALENDAR
7a
Accounts: Payables and Payroll of May 20, 2019, $6,132,839.27 ID 0366
Carried 7-0
Approve · packet pp.9–174
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
Finance Department P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 PH: 425-837-3050 www.issaquahwa.gov
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7b
Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, May 6, 2019
Carried 7-0
Approve · packet pp.175–179
Staff report:
CONSENT CALENDAR b) 05-06-19 City Council Regular Meeting Minutes Page (0000)
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7c
Minutes: Council Committee Work Session, May 13, 2019
Carried 7-0
Approve · packet pp.181
Staff report:
CONSENT CALENDAR c) 05-13-19 Council Committee Work Session Minutes Page (0000)
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7d
4Culture King County Sustained Support Grant AB 7678
Carried 7-0
Accept Grant · packet pp.183–196
Staff report:
Administration recommends authorizing submittal of a 4Culture Sustained Support grant application in support of the City's arts program.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7f
King Conservation District (KCD) Grant for the Lower Issaquah Creek Stream and Riparian Habitat Enhancement Project AB 7767
Carried 7-0
Authorize Submittal · packet pp.239–242
Topics: Water
Staff report:
SUMMARY STATEMENT
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7g
Transportation Benefit District Assumption of Powers AB 7771
Carried 7-0
Approve Resolution Setting Public Hearing · packet pp.243–247
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
The City Council passed Ordinance No. 2823 on January 16, 2018, which created the Issaquah Transportation Benefit District (TBD) and adopted a new Chapter 12.70 of the Issaquah Municipal Code.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
7h
Anti-Aircraft Creek Culvert Streambed Rehabilitation Project AB 7793
Carried 7-0
Refer to Council Land & Shore Committee · packet pp.249–255
Topics: Water
Staff report:
In 2017, the City completed a project that installed a 138-foot long fish passable culvert to convey the seasonal flow from Anti-Aircraft Creek where it crosses under Newport Way NW. The project also created approximately 670 feet of enhanced stream channel that includes large woody debris upstream and downstream of the culvert.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
8. REGULAR BUSINESS
8a
City Council Rules of Procedure AB 7287
Carried 7-0
Approve Resolution · packet pp.261–299
Topics: Boards & Commissions
Staff report:
Drafting City Council Rules has been on the City's work plan for some time and was identified as a priority for adoption by Q2, 2019. As such, Council dedicated time earlier this year at the Feb. 1 Special meeting and March 11 Work Session to provide direction on key topics to help with the development of the draft Rules.
Roll call:
Moved by MARTS · seconded by REH
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
9. GOOD OF THE ORDER
9a
Upcoming Council Meetings
0:15 welcome everyone we have a full house
0:18 this evening I'd like to call the
0:20 mid-twentieth regular city council
0:22 meeting to order all of those that you
0:25 would that would like to join the
0:26 council myself this evening in the
0:28 pledge of allegiance please dance before
0:51 we move into our first special business
0:54 item I know a lot of you have attended
0:57 this evening because of the expectation
1:00 that there was going to be some
1:02 transportation projects on the agenda
1:03 this evening and council would be
1:04 talking about them and we know that City
1:06 Administrator moon talked about the
1:08 dates of the meetings where the council
1:10 will be discussing taking public comment
1:13 and voting on the transportation
1:14 projects because it's not on our agenda
1:16 for this evening City ministry demoon
1:19 sure the Capital Improvement Program or
1:24 what we refer to as the CIP is going to
1:27 be introduced at a City Council meeting
1:30 on June 10th at meaning I would
1:34 anticipate we provide a presentation
1:36 that gives an overview of the capital
1:39 improvement plan and talk at kind of
1:44 higher levels summarizing elements of
1:47 the plan then on June 24th the City
1:51 Council will have a second meeting to
1:53 hear about the capital improvement plan
1:55 and to have some conversation with each
1:59 other to deliberate and to pose
2:02 questions and get answers from staff
2:04 about those capital projects then on
2:08 July 1st the council will hold a public
2:12 hearing on the CIP and the more
2:16 anticipating council action on July 15th
2:20 and I'll just note that
2:24 in reviewing the capital improvement
2:26 plan and and making some decisions about
2:28 the capital improvement plan we
2:31 anticipate that'll kind of set the stage
2:34 for how future capital projects will be
2:37 implemented and how the light that
2:40 counts will likely attempt to secure the
2:43 funding for those projects and following
2:47 the CIP discussions we will then resume
2:51 any subsequent actions we need to take
2:53 with regard to the transportation
2:55 benefit district thank you
3:01 moving on to the first item on our
3:03 agenda this evening a special business
3:05 ID 0 4 4 6 community fund update and
3:09 tonight the council will be hearing a
3:11 presentation from staff providing an
3:13 informational update on the 2020
3:15 Community Fund program access and I'd
3:17 like to invite Development Officer arts
3:20 coordinator Amy Dukes to make the
3:21 presentation hi good evening council
3:31 members and Mehta mayor thank you for
3:32 having me this evening
3:33 I just wanted to give a very quick
3:35 overview of where we are with the
3:37 Community Fund and the city's support of
3:40 nonprofits through the mayor's office I
3:43 have up on the screen just the list of
3:46 what was supported this year for
3:48 reference in the two categories that I'm
3:51 going to talk about briefly so as you
3:54 probably know the Community Fund is our
3:57 competitive granting program for our
3:59 nonprofits that serve our community it
4:02 is meant to increase capacity for them
4:05 and often that is through programmatic
4:08 support and often through capital
4:11 projects and you may recall in January
4:15 the 2018 recipients came and gave you a
4:18 presentation of their outcomes of that
4:21 support so we are about to release the
4:25 application for 2020 funding and we have
4:29 not made substantial changes to the
4:31 application but we are making some
4:34 changes to the process a little bit and
4:37 provide more technical assistance to the
4:39 nonprofits we are also going to try to
4:44 give them better questions in the
4:47 applications so that they can provide
4:49 more clear answers of how they'll use
4:51 the funding to build their capacity and
4:54 then you will be seeing those
4:56 recommendations which will be created by
4:59 a community review panel again this year
5:02 and those will come to you through the
5:04 budgeting process for 2020 and then with
5:08 the nonprofit support through the
5:11 mayor's office and this year we are
5:13 going to work a little bit harder to get
5:15 their scopes created before the
5:17 budgeting process
5:18 so during budgeting we'll be able to
5:20 tell you exactly what is being funded
5:22 and that is actually a little bit
5:24 different way of doing it this year and
5:27 then also I just wanted to let you know
5:29 that we are mindful that we have a newly
5:31 adopted strategic plan and we want to
5:34 align these programs better with the
5:38 strategic plans goals and objectives and
5:40 we're going to be working hard on that
5:41 for 2021 it's probably going to take us
5:44 most of 2020 to really get that steered
5:48 in that direction so I can answer any
5:50 questions that you might have or talk a
5:55 little bit more if you what thank you
5:57 Amy
5:57 I question from councilmember hunt thank
6:01 you I wondered about your last statement
6:04 regarding how you will align with the
6:07 strategic plan and would like a little
6:10 bit more information about that great
6:12 well and to be honest because the plan
6:15 was just adopted recently we haven't
6:17 really done that work and we do need to
6:19 identify who on staff is really going to
6:21 focus on that it probably will be an
6:24 interdepartmental team working with the
6:26 mayor's office but just like all of the
6:30 departments are figuring out how to make
6:33 the connections to their work we're
6:35 going to do that with our funding
6:37 programs and I imagine that the other
6:39 competitive funding programs the arts
6:41 program and the Human Services will do
6:42 that as well just to better match up
6:45 what we're hoping to achieve with what
6:48 the goals and objectives of the plan or
6:50 hope
6:50 to achieve we also know that there are
6:53 some gaps in our funding that we fund
6:55 lots of Human Services and organizations
6:57 and arts organizations but there are
6:59 elements within the strategic plan that
7:00 talk about environmental issues for
7:02 instance and this might be a program
7:05 that can better address some of those
7:07 needs other questions
7:12 it looks like that's it thank you very
7:15 much ace for having me
7:19 next item on the agenda this evening is
7:21 audience comments this is the time that
7:25 audience members can address their
7:26 council the guidelines for public
7:29 participation will be shortly displayed
7:31 up on the screen please limit your
7:33 comments to five minutes there was a
7:36 sign-up sheet
7:37 tisha yes so there was a sign-up sheet
7:39 and if you we will call the names on the
7:42 sign-up sheet first if you did not sign
7:44 up I will still ask for other speakers
7:46 before closing that portion of the
7:48 meeting and if you are here as part of a
7:51 group or a spokesman for a group please
7:53 identify that when you introduce
7:54 yourself and for those in the audience
7:57 that are listening to the speakers
7:59 addressing council this evening if you
8:01 are hearing comments and concerns that
8:03 you strongly support please raise your
8:05 hand so the council is aware of the
8:07 amount of support that's here in the
8:09 audience with us this evening tisha has
8:12 anyone signed up to speak this evening
8:16 yes Susan Forbes followed by Mitch Reid
8:20 Thank You Susan
8:27 I don't mean I don't remember how much
8:34 information I need to tell you about
8:36 myself
8:37 this you name and address is great okay
8:39 I can do that
8:40 Susan Forbes for 3:07 Providence Point
8:43 Place southeast I live in Providence
8:46 point I want to make sure that the City
8:57 Council members are aware of the reality
9:00 of crossing over 43rd way from forest
9:03 village to go down the hill toward the
9:05 rotary as you sit at the exit you have
9:10 to be aware of three basic things first
9:16 of all the oncoming traffic traveling up
9:20 the hill second traffic that is waiting
9:24 to enter forest village coming down the
9:26 hill and lastly the thoroughfare traffic
9:32 traveling down the hill to East Lake
9:33 Sammamish Parkway so that's at least
9:38 three different situations that you have
9:42 to kind of figure out when is it going
9:44 to be safe this is a lot to consider and
9:49 judge when you might only have a few
9:51 seconds to make a hopefully safe
9:53 decision there is a waiting space for
9:57 those of us who dare remain stationary
10:00 in the middle of the road while we wait
10:02 for an opening to enter the fire lane of
10:04 the through traffic and somebody told me
10:08 once it was called suicide
10:11 relaying or something like that
10:13 I don't think I made that up I'm not I'm
10:16 not quite that but anyway and I also AM
10:19 up with the understanding and it's not
10:21 any fact that I've heard but I
10:23 understand that that particular Lane
10:25 where you're supposed to wait as the
10:28 oncoming traffic is flying down the hill
10:33 and it's narrow by a foot or something
10:36 like that so if that's true that would
10:39 be awesome if that could be widened as a
10:48 matter of fact I talked with a woman
10:51 this afternoon who was in an accident in
10:54 this Lane and was hit by a car and she's
10:59 here it was not a serious accident
11:03 therefore not a serious injury she she
11:07 was her her right hand mirror was hit by
11:11 a car coming down the road and there
11:17 were no injuries
11:19 the lady who hit her coming down the
11:21 road her mirror was hanging down and I'm
11:25 not sure what what shaped Mary's was in
11:27 him but I'm sure it wasn't in great very
11:28 great shape and I celebrate that it
11:32 wasn't a serious injury because of if
11:36 the woman was just about four inches
11:38 closer to Mary it could have been a very
11:40 serious accident and they really do fly
11:43 down that road not everybody but you
11:47 know they passed the 35 a mile an hour
11:49 sign and then it's like okay well I'm
11:51 free and then they just they just go
11:54 down fast I want to also make sure that
11:58 the City Council is aware of another
12:00 problem for us and I'm coming
12:03 specifically from traveling out of
12:05 Forest Village I've been noticing that
12:11 it's hard for me to judge how much time
12:15 I have from where I look down the road
12:20 towards Providence Ridge and I see the
12:24 cars so
12:26 it's hard for me to judge how much time
12:29 I have when that car is going to be
12:33 close to me it's if you're looking down
12:36 the hill and for my depth precession
12:38 perception or whatever it is it's very
12:40 hard and there have been a couple of
12:44 times where I thought I had all plenty
12:46 of time and I didn't the car was really
12:49 on almost on top of me before before I
12:52 really knew it so in my imagination
12:59 which I do have a pretty good one I
13:02 imagine that I really wanted to try to
13:05 know the difference in at the amount of
13:08 time I have with different speeds so I
13:12 called my friend Carol Eldridge and we
13:14 did a little survey it's I can't go to
13:18 court with it because it's just us in my
13:20 and my myself my cell phone but what we
13:24 did is we drove down 43rd way went
13:29 around the rotary and came up and I
13:31 tried to keep my car at coming up the
13:35 hill at 40 miles an hour 45 miles an
13:38 hour 50 oh that's my Menace you know
13:41 Susan if you want to take a little bit
13:44 of time just to wrap up that would great
13:45 it'd be great but I'd also if you've
13:47 brought anything in writing and you want
13:49 to leave it with the clerk all the
13:50 counsel will get a copy of it as well
13:52 okay yeah so at 40 miles an hour
13:58 we started timing at Providence Ridge
14:01 and then we stopped timing and we got to
14:04 forest village entry 40 miles an hour
14:08 16.8 seconds it took 45 miles an hour
14:12 13.6 850 miles an hour eleven point nine
14:16 five and fifty five miles an hour ten
14:19 point four five so there's close to a
14:22 six seconds
14:26 difference man 42:55 and that is a lot
14:34 of time that we might need to get over
14:37 to the other side and be safe or get
14:40 into the middle in kiss Susan oh thank
14:46 you so I beg you for for all of us and
14:50 certainly for myself that finding the
14:53 money thank you thank you do you want to
14:57 leave your notes with the clerk okay
14:59 that's great I'm right over here with
15:01 Titian she'll make sure the council gets
15:03 copy of it as well all right
15:04 Emily thank you next we have Madrid
15:09 followed by Don Miller if you are second
15:12 up on the list please start making your
15:15 way to the podium please if you haven't
15:18 provided public comments before there is
15:20 a little light signal that we keep up on
15:22 the podium with you it starts out as
15:25 green when you're talking and when
15:27 you're getting close to the end of the
15:28 five minutes it goes yellow and at the
15:30 end it goes red so that's just to cue
15:32 you if you need some assistance Mitch go
15:34 ahead thank you madam mayor and members
15:36 of the council and pleased to address
15:39 you
15:39 Mitchell Reed I live in Providence Point
15:42 and have done so for about the past six
15:45 years I'll try not to take up too much
15:48 time one of the finest evenings of my
15:51 life was having my 16 year old daughter
15:54 I'd rather 19 year old daughter at the
15:57 time meet with my friend who was then a
16:01 hundred and one years old my 19 year old
16:04 had never met anybody who would be
16:06 considered old by her standards and over
16:10 a hundred that night turned out to be a
16:12 great experience for my daughter
16:14 probably not for my neighbor but she is
16:18 a wonderful lady who I have the pleasure
16:21 of knowing and visiting with many times
16:24 a week but I almost did not have that
16:28 pleasure because she was driving south
16:30 on 43rd rather north I get confused too
16:35 easily on the north
16:37 when she attempted to make a left-hand
16:40 turn and she made the turn a young lady
16:44 who was 17 years old driving south
16:48 inadvertently hit the accelerator rather
16:52 than the gas the steamboating her car
16:56 she broke her leg she broke her arm the
16:59 car was totaled and she spent three
17:02 months in a rehabilitation facility on
17:07 August 4th she will celebrate one
17:09 hundred and third birthday and I do hope
17:14 I can motivate the council to send her a
17:16 birthday card she is probably the second
17:21 oldest resident at Providence Point she
17:24 plays bridge gets around like a champ
17:27 and he's probably spotted at than I am
17:30 but maybe that's not too difficult
17:33 anyway I urge you to build that traffic
17:38 light and I'd like to say now although I
17:42 know capital improvements are very
17:45 important but sometimes we have to step
17:48 out of our routine and look at the
17:50 actual human issue by the time our
17:54 community enlightens you as to the
17:57 statistics that we've gathered if you're
18:00 not sleeping you probably will be
18:03 because there are too many cars going
18:06 too fast and as you all know the school
18:09 district is about to build a high school
18:11 with an elementary school adjacent to
18:14 our property so I asked knowing that you
18:17 have a capital improvement project and
18:20 understanding that timetable if you
18:23 would be kind enough to relook at that
18:27 issue and address it outside of the
18:30 timetable we need that light we need it
18:34 now
18:35 it is an urgent matter of public safety
18:39 thank you very much thank you Mitch John
18:49 good evening
18:50 my name is Don Miller I'm from
18:52 Providence Point live in forest village
18:55 okay
18:57 we've seniors here from Providence Point
19:01 are of the generation that tried to do
19:04 right things in our professional and
19:07 business career we certainly made
19:09 mistakes but to the degree that we won
19:12 the Cold War we feel we did at least
19:15 something right our country was made
19:18 safe now it's your turn to do something
19:22 right to make a safe intersection at
19:25 southeast 43rd way and Providence Point
19:29 last Monday night the city administrator
19:32 presented decisions which you need to
19:35 make these decisions impact the traffic
19:38 light on South East 43rd way you can
19:41 either kick the can down the road or not
19:44 and make then approve that project now
19:48 we've all been taught that we should
19:51 collect all the information we need
19:53 before making a decision
19:55 I'm here to tell you you never will
19:58 there will always be ambiguity some may
20:03 worry about the future economy but the
20:06 time has come after 12 years of delay to
20:09 have courage and make the right decision
20:12 now there is no better time than now the
20:18 cost of money is low the cost of delay
20:21 is high construction costs only continue
20:24 to go up design work has been completed
20:27 statistics have been collected you have
20:30 heard or will heard how the traffic
20:33 southeast 43rd way is high and the trend
20:36 line is only going up it is a dangerous
20:40 in increasingly difficult for Forest
20:43 Village residents to cross
20:44 essentially a four-lane highway where
20:47 traffic races up the hill at speeds
20:50 often exceeding 55 miles an hour the
20:54 reason for that race is we're two lanes
20:56 going up the hill but shortly afterwards
20:58 it converges to one lane who's going to
21:01 be first and get ahead into that single
21:03 lane the situation reminds me of a
21:07 variation of the school levy slogan if
21:09 you think education is expensive try
21:12 ignorance in our case if you think
21:16 safety is expensive try an accident to
21:19 that end you need to know the Providence
21:21 Point has retained an attorney as an old
21:25 duffer I can tell you there are ghosts
21:28 some might call these regrets either way
21:31 they haunt you our military has used the
21:35 phrase don't let one man see another's
21:38 ghost for lack of training for you I
21:41 pray don't let yourself see another
21:43 person's ghost for the lack of a traffic
21:46 signal at province point now is the time
21:50 to provide the seniors at Providence
21:52 point safe access to and from
21:55 forty-third way you have the power the
21:58 financial capacity the design thus
22:01 justice statistics judging the need the
22:05 rational arguments and the personal
22:08 stories of seniors who have been injured
22:10 or traumatized I'd like to believe that
22:13 now since we seniors have passed the
22:16 leadership mantle to you that you will
22:19 make the right decision for the safety
22:21 of the seniors in your community
22:23 approved the traffic light on 45th way
22:27 now party third way
22:29 thank you done this is there anyone else
22:32 that has signed up this evening yes Ron
22:35 Inhofe and Eadie petroi
22:47 hello my name is Ronnie M HOF I'm not
22:50 gonna get you to get a little bear you
22:52 sorry hello my name is Rodney I'm Hough
22:54 I have lived in the Providence Point
22:56 neighborhood for one year so I don't
22:58 have the same long history as others in
23:01 the neighborhood what I and others do
23:04 have is a need to be able to cross
23:06 forty-third way to be able to to walk
23:09 from one side of Providence point to the
23:13 other walking not driving right now so
23:17 difficult to cross that most don't dry I
23:20 have walked across several times in the
23:22 last year but I feel like I must run
23:25 across till before the next speeding car
23:28 comes up or down the hill last week I
23:31 met with some others for evening meeting
23:34 and because the amount of traffic I
23:38 drove so I wouldn't get run over
23:41 crossing the street if I'd wanted to
23:43 cross had a marked crosswalk I would
23:46 have had to walk two miles the nearest
23:48 crosswalk is either a mile up or a mile
23:51 down the street that's not a good way to
23:54 visit neighbors so if this like wha
23:58 truly is a safe walkable City and a
24:01 place where we can live work and play it
24:04 wouldn't be so difficult to cross 43rd
24:06 at Providence point so you need to fund
24:10 the traffic light now thank you thank
24:13 you Ron ed hello my name is Ed Peter Oh
24:21 I live in forest Village in Providence
24:23 point I'm going to talk briefly about
24:27 southeast 43rd way and southeast
24:31 Issaquah Fall City Road to and from Lake
24:36 Sammamish Parkway how they are like
24:39 number one they both carry over 21,000
24:43 vehicles per day
24:46 that's based on your numbers that's the
24:49 total number in both directions Monday
24:52 through Friday and that's a very large
24:55 number of cars and trucks per day
24:59 43rd way carries ninety percent of the
25:03 number of vehicles that southeast
25:05 Issaquah fall city road carries how they
25:09 different one southeast fall city road
25:13 has not one but two traffic lights with
25:16 clearly marked crosswalks within one
25:18 mile of turning onto it from East Lake
25:20 Sammamish Parkway this not only allows
25:24 pedestrians to cross the road but also
25:27 keeps the average speeds down and it
25:31 serves as a traffic calming function
25:33 that enhances safety southeast 43rd way
25:37 has no traffic signals or lights second
25:42 southeast fall southeast
25:45 it's a qua fall city road appears to be
25:47 twice the width of southeast 43rd way it
25:50 has two traffic lanes up to the
25:53 Sammamish plateau and two down and they
25:57 also have clearly marked turning lanes
25:59 on both sides or in the center three
26:03 with no traffic lights on southeast 43rd
26:05 way the forty mile per hour speed limit
26:08 means that the average speeds are closer
26:10 to 50 to 55 miles per hour
26:12 cars will race up the plateau past the
26:16 main entrance of Providence point in
26:17 forest village because the two lanes
26:20 emerged and nobody wants to be second in
26:22 life when a person is driving downhill
26:26 on southeast 43rd way toward East Lake
26:29 Sammamish Parkway and need needs to make
26:32 a left turn into forest village there's
26:34 a 10-foot parcel of ground that a person
26:38 needs to stop their car in if they go
26:40 too far they go into oncoming traffic if
26:43 they don't go far enough they block
26:45 traffic and get rear-ended money.the
26:49 Issaquah finance director addressed us
26:51 on may 13th and she was correct the good
26:54 times are now interest rates are very
26:56 low
26:57 stock market interest rates move in
27:00 cycles and money is cheap the time to do
27:03 the traffic light is now lastly I'll
27:07 address values recently the City Council
27:09 issued guiding principles that were
27:12 signed by the mayor and the council it
27:14 outlined the principles that they were
27:16 going to follow in Issaquah and it forms
27:18 a contract with its residents here are
27:20 two of the these principles one safety
27:24 and our Issaquah community is paramount
27:27 second equity insuring that it's akua's
27:31 services are accessible to all i do not
27:35 see how the counts are going to valuate
27:37 southeast 43rd way is being safe council
27:41 certainly is not treating the citizens
27:43 who might be over 55 the same as ones or
27:47 not in the nearly 2 mile stretch between
27:50 East Lake Sammamish Parkway traffic
27:54 circle and the middle school in
27:56 Sammamish Near East it's a QWOP ilayk
27:58 road there is not one traffic calming
28:02 device on South East 43rd way not one in
28:07 conclusion getting the southeast 43rd
28:10 light done now ensure safety and equity
28:13 and fulfills councils guiding principles
28:17 thank you for your time and attention in
28:21 this matter
28:21 Thank You ed looking I look up here and
28:28 I see hands in the air there we go there
28:29 are a lot of hands in the audience
28:30 supporting the comments tisha who else
28:32 is on our signup list
28:34 Ernest wolf followed by Nia Nia Lorenson
28:54 I'm just turning my hearing aid off
28:57 because you may be able to hear me a
29:00 little better
29:01 my name is Ernest Wolfe
29:04 I live in Provence Point Paris village
29:09 I've been there about five and a half
29:11 years you've seen my face here before
29:14 and many of you were involved with the
29:17 effort to pass a bond that would have
29:21 paid for the traffic light several years
29:23 ago I was a poster boy for the printed
29:31 handout created by Kathy Allen of the
29:34 Connexions group that many of you have
29:37 seen before in several of you whereas
29:40 individuals on the campaign committee
29:43 that made a strong effort to get the
29:46 bond passed it did by 54% so a majority
29:52 of our citizens approved our traffic
29:55 light if that doesn't give you some
29:58 direction I don't know what will you
30:02 have an issue on tonight's agenda that
30:04 affects province point you are wrong in
30:07 thinking that a transportation benefit
30:10 district tax increase with prop 1 as
30:13 recommended by your staff should take
30:16 care of the city's commitment to us for
30:20 traffic light 13 plus years ago when
30:24 that light was part of your campaign to
30:27 keep province point from becoming part
30:29 of Sammamish that was their choice at
30:32 the time during that recent bond
30:35 campaign Bob Rock someone you likely all
30:39 know your former public works
30:42 engineering director and countered me
30:45 posting promotional signs supporting the
30:49 bond subsequently I received a long
30:52 email from Bob telling me that we would
30:56 be wrong to vote for the bond since we
30:59 already had a commitment for the traffic
31:02 light at the time of the annexation vote
31:05 Bob might be here tonight to tell you
31:08 this himself except for health reasons
31:11 unfortunately he knows this well since
31:16 it must have been Bob who worked with a
31:19 civil engineer resident in Provence
31:22 point still living there to create the
31:26 plans that evolved into the multi page
31:31 designed by petit engineering in
31:34 February 2007 you have long had counsel
31:41 Manik bond firing capacity to pay for
31:45 the traffic light project but have
31:47 chosen to ignore that the traffic data
31:51 obtained from you dates back to 2017 so
31:58 it's two years old the way Sammamish has
32:00 been developing those numbers can
32:03 certainly be expected to be higher and
32:07 you heard those numbers from Edie and
32:11 consider that you have two totally
32:13 different roads with practically the
32:18 same traffic that's what we face in
32:21 province point with insuk well for City
32:25 Road about to be closed because of their
32:30 bridge reconstruction Southwest self our
32:35 self East 43rd way traffic can certainly
32:39 be expected to increase further your
32:43 staff has been more aware of all of this
32:45 and we have continued to be totally
32:49 ignored for practical purpose practical
32:53 purposes it's impossible to define them
32:56 this history is anything but major
32:59 neglect Jim that's for your benefit the
33:04 radar speed detectors on our Road
33:07 confirm that we have very frequent
33:09 vehicle speeds up to 55 miles now and
33:13 beyond if you came to this meeting
33:16 tonight on your bicycle
33:19 would you dare to travel that way across
33:22 southeast 43rd between our villages and
33:26 I know we have some cyclists here our
33:30 patience has worn thin we are focused on
33:33 driving meaningful outcomes for our
33:36 community we have a strong neighborhood
33:39 that demands a safe neighborhood and our
33:43 most recent umbrella board meeting the
33:45 hiring of an attorney to address this
33:48 matter was approved and I imagine you
33:50 will soon hear from him depending on
33:53 what the council chooses to do next the
33:58 attorney has very common that in quotes
34:01 this project has been postponed for many
34:05 years and commencing of construction
34:08 should not be delayed any further hope
34:12 today's discussions may be helpful as a
34:15 CIP issues are discussed on the June 5
34:19 meeting and beyond and we're looking
34:22 forward to the jury public hearing
34:24 hopefully we'll get good news and I'd
34:27 like to share these with your secretary
34:31 Thank You Ernie Nyonya and lots of hands
34:38 in the air for Ernie's comments good
34:46 evening my name is neo Melanson and I am
34:49 the current president of forest village
34:54 that's okay honey the residents of
34:58 Providence Point are 55 and over that's
35:02 a fact some still work many volunteer in
35:07 places in Issaquah and the surrounding
35:09 areas
35:10 we vote we pay our taxes we move to
35:15 Providence Point because of its beauty
35:18 its location and because it was a safe
35:22 gated community in 2003 we annex to
35:27 Issaquah and I am quoting here from
35:30 Ernie
35:32 little face that says we Providence
35:38 point was annexed in 2003 to the city of
35:41 Issaquah with a promise underlined to
35:45 improve road conditions for both
35:48 motorists and pedestrians that was 16
35:53 years ago 12 years ago we began to make
35:58 requests for a traffic light on 43rd in
36:01 Providence point place 12 years ago and
36:05 here we stand tonight still asking for
36:09 that traffic light there are many
36:13 activities at Providence Point most are
36:16 on the north side of 43rd and some are
36:19 on the south side all residents must
36:22 cross 43rd to participate in these
36:26 activities most Drive but to my
36:30 amazement some walk some walked across
36:34 43rd where there is no crosswalk or even
36:39 a watch for pedestrian side only a
36:43 traffic light can improve both vehicle
36:45 safety and allow pedestrians to cross
36:47 without endangering their lives
36:51 endangering their lives over the past
36:55 years traffic on 43rd or interstate 43rd
36:59 as it is often called by our residents
37:02 now has increased dramatically speeds
37:06 well exceed the posted limits
37:08 I have watched that posted 35 speed
37:12 limit sign coming up 43rd and seen it
37:15 flash from 45 to 55 to 60 continuously
37:21 from mid afternoon to evening and the
37:24 same scenario is true coming down to
37:27 28th where Forest Village residents need
37:31 to turn left to get into their village I
37:34 would question how many of you deal with
37:38 speeds of 45 or more to enter or exit
37:42 your community
37:45 we know that you have options we know
37:49 there is some money available at this
37:52 time
37:53 we know you have borrowing privileges we
37:57 know also that this project will not
38:00 ever become less expensive we also know
38:05 that you don't like to hear the same
38:06 information over and over and over so
38:11 unless you want to see us again unless
38:14 you want to repeat of all of this great
38:17 information and all of these statistics
38:20 do the right thing
38:22 do the safe thing be the City Council
38:26 that finally fixes this dangerous even
38:29 life-threatening intersection at 43rd
38:32 and Providence Point Place we implore
38:36 you to proceed and fund this light and
38:39 do it now thank you for listening and
38:43 thank you for your service to the city
38:45 citizens of Issaquah thank you lots of
38:49 hands in the air
38:50 this show do we have some more speakers
38:51 signed up yes Muriel Peterson followed
38:55 by Leslie pops first of all I'd like to
39:06 give a shout-out to the ahsoka police I
39:08 make cookies for them regularly two of
39:12 their officers I'm really fond of Oh
39:14 I'm Muriel Petersen I live in forest
39:17 village for Percy row six I don't think
39:20 we have to give all that I've lived
39:24 there I moved from Sammamish where I
39:26 bought a house in 1989 I went through
39:32 the whole drill of us becoming I always
39:39 knew I'd moved to Providence point I've
39:42 been there 11 years going on 12 and I
39:48 know from attending meetings in
39:52 Sammamish
39:53 that Sammamish wanted Providence point
39:58 would they have had their light probably
40:01 by now but we elected to go and I was
40:07 not him I didn't live there then I lived
40:09 in Sammamish with Issaquah because they
40:16 promised the traffic light and that's
40:20 why they voted Providence point to go
40:23 with the city of Issaquah anyway thank
40:27 you very much
40:28 I'm leaving Thank You Muriel Leslie hi
40:40 my name is Leslie pops
40:41 I live at 506 Sky Country Way in
40:43 Issaquah and my mom moved to Providence
40:45 Point two years ago and I was excited to
40:48 tell her that oh there's going to be a
40:50 stoplight put in there don't worry about
40:53 it's gonna be great and now I now I'm
40:56 nervous that it's not even gonna happen
40:58 and I'm sad and embarrassed to say that
41:02 until my mom moved to Providence point I
41:04 was one of the speeders up the hill it's
41:08 just so easy to speed that that hill
41:11 both up and down and now that I'm aware
41:14 that she lives there and I go visit her
41:16 all the time it's pretty eye-opening how
41:21 horrible that road is so so I just
41:25 encourage you to to really consider it
41:27 as part of the budget thank you thank
41:29 you we've a turtle followed by Hart
41:33 Sugarman
41:40 Eva that is our will go to heart and
41:45 we'll come back to Riva if she's still
41:47 here
41:52 good evening mayor and council members
41:54 my name is Hart Sugarman I live at 255 0
41:57 Northwest Oak Crest Drive and I've been
42:00 a resident of Summer Hill Community in
42:02 Issaquah for 23 years I stood at the
42:06 podium here in November 13th 2017 to
42:10 address my concerns about the
42:11 intersection of Newport Way and Oak
42:13 Crest Drive at that time I thank the
42:16 city and staff for hosting and
42:18 conducting the various Newport way
42:20 corridor workshops in the transportation
42:24 capital requests project tr02 to Newport
42:29 way from say Road 900 to South East 54th
42:33 improvements address the corridor in the
42:38 2015 pedestrian crossing study and was
42:41 also discussed in the central Issaquah
42:42 plan it now looks like this project is
42:45 getting pushed back to a completion date
42:48 towards 2028 this is very disappointing
42:52 with the construction of the Riva
42:54 townhomes which is now underway at our
42:56 intersection of Newport Way in Oak Crest
42:58 Drive and Reva Lane it'll be built out
43:00 by the developer that intersection this
43:04 calls for the widening of Newports way
43:06 to three lanes with center left turn
43:08 lanes as I mentioned back in 2017 the
43:12 city has now created a four-way
43:14 intersection there are 19 intersections
43:18 along Newports way this will be the
43:20 first and only intersection without a
43:23 traffic signal we are already
43:26 experiencing the challenges of putting
43:28 in the roadway Reva Lane directly
43:31 opposite Oh Crest Drive especially
43:33 during the certain times a day when
43:35 there's constant flow of traffic as
43:37 vehicles try to exit from either side
43:40 they must first wait for that break in
43:42 traffic on Newports way then who goes
43:45 first vehicles facing each other try to
43:48 exit simultaneously it's just an
43:51 accident waiting
43:52 happen we've seen a lot of growth and
43:55 development in our immediate area along
43:57 Newport Way Anthology Apartments has
43:59 added four hundred units under
44:01 construction now is the Revel this is
44:04 across senior apartments which is one
44:06 hundred and forty six units and under
44:08 construction is the Riva townhomes 36
44:10 units the grand total 582 new units by
44:16 comparison if we add up our current
44:18 existing homes in the vicinity
44:20 Summerhill has 55 Spyglass Hill has 60
44:24 units Sammamish Point 132 units Bentley
44:27 house has 47 units pine cone Terre
44:30 Highlands has 78 homes plus there's two
44:33 single-family homes at two three one
44:36 five and two three zero zero Newports
44:39 way so we add that up the current
44:41 residence 374 so now this area is going
44:45 to grow from 374 to 950 six units within
44:49 this very year 2019 that's over two
44:54 hundred and fifty percent additional
44:56 growth as the increased number of
44:59 vehicles adds more traffic volumes to
45:01 Newports way it becomes increasingly
45:03 more difficult to exit our subdivision
45:05 now that we see the success of this
45:08 roundabout on Maple Street at Trader
45:11 Joe's and target I would like to propose
45:13 this type of roundabout at our
45:15 intersection I believe our intersection
45:18 can accommodate this roundabout there
45:21 are a number of positive benefits to
45:23 having a roundabout it reduces the
45:25 speeding vehicles along Newports way
45:27 creating a calming effect it allows
45:30 residents to safely exit Summer Hill and
45:32 Reva townhomes and integrate into the
45:34 traffic flow there's no need for a
45:37 four-way stop sign and there's no need
45:39 for traffic light it allows pedestrians
45:41 to cross the two lanes of traffic
45:43 instead of three lanes it also provides
45:46 the pedestrians a safe refuge island
45:49 between the travel lanes it also
45:52 eliminates the sight line challenges
45:54 when we egress from Summer Hill and it
45:57 also eliminates the sight line
45:58 challenges from people aggressing from
46:00 Reva townhomes
46:01 it eliminates the potential for a
46:04 head-on collision so please give us your
46:06 consideration thank you very much thank
46:09 you Harden if you wouldn't mind leaving
46:10 the letter that would be great
46:12 is there anyone else signed up yes the
46:16 last speaker signed up is Joe Verner and
46:41 good evening mayor and city council my
46:44 name is Joe Verner I live at one two
46:46 three zero oak wood place Northwest in
46:49 the Summer Hill subdivision I only have
46:53 two items to comment on this evening
46:54 first one is a bit of housekeeping at
46:58 the May 6th City Council meeting after
47:04 discussing the aaaa Creek culvert
47:08 redesign the council members had their
47:13 own little sidebars but for the softer
47:19 voices and not bending over to the
47:22 microphone the audience had difficulties
47:25 hearing and I'll give you just one
47:29 example this is not criticism it's just
47:32 observation when Stacey when you were
47:35 talking we couldn't hear you well we
47:40 could hear tone but we couldn't
47:43 understand words so we walked out of the
47:47 meeting saying what's with Stacey
47:49 she says that summer hill is on the
47:53 attack but what you actually said was
47:57 summer Hill has been under attack for
48:00 years with the traffic and the
48:03 development on Newport Way speak closer
48:08 to the microphone and my recommendation
48:15 put the traffic light at Providence
48:19 point soon thank you
48:22 thank you lots of hands in the air
48:26 I'm just gonna check and see if Riva is
48:28 here I did see her earlier she was on
48:30 the signup list not seeing her at this
48:34 point in time if there's anyone else in
48:36 the audience that would like to address
48:37 counsel please come forward and identify
48:40 yourself at the microphone I see one
48:42 person coming up
49:03 good evening mayor councilmembers thank
49:07 you for having us here this evening here
49:09 so nice to see so many Providence point
49:11 people here I am sandy here
49:14 I live at 40 101 100 and excuse me
49:18 two hundred and twentieth place out the
49:20 east in Providence Point and I've been a
49:22 resident there for almost four years I
49:24 come to you with a different message
49:27 than the others might you would like to
49:29 see the traffic light there for the
49:31 reasons that have already been expressed
49:32 so I won't bore you with those details
49:34 but ironically I come here because I
49:39 merged the two opinions that have been
49:41 expressed about Providence point and
49:43 about Newport Way in 2015 I was involved
49:52 in a traffic accident that killed a
49:54 four-year-old little boy on Newport Way
49:56 some of you may have been on the council
49:58 at that point in time it happened
50:02 because the traffic excuse me it wasn't
50:04 a traffic signal the pedestrian signal
50:08 at that intersection was very poorly
50:11 designed and I couldn't see it because
50:13 of the glare of the Sun at that point in
50:15 time
50:18 two years later we went to a civil trial
50:21 the city of Issaquah and I were both
50:25 defendants in that trial brought by the
50:27 parents of that little boy I won't go
50:30 into all of the details because I don't
50:32 know the city of Issaquah had a privacy
50:36 agreement or whatever legal terms are
50:39 for that but the city Visser Hall had to
50:43 pay a very large sum of money to the
50:45 family because the design of the sign
50:50 was not adequate or whatever the terms
50:54 were used in that point in time I'm
50:58 sorry it still gets to me I still suffer
51:01 PSD as a result and I've never driven
51:03 down that road since then so it's
51:05 unusual to me to hear that there's all
51:08 of this building going on on that street
51:10 now but there's a lot of building going
51:15 on around
51:15 point now as well I don't see the roads
51:18 getting any wider but I see a lot more
51:20 traffic obviously a lot more people
51:23 backing up in traffic and I see a lot of
51:26 speeding that has never stopped in the
51:28 four and a half years that I have lived
51:29 a Providence point my point is I don't
51:34 want to see you all have to pay out an
51:36 hour another large judgment for another
51:38 accident and another place close to
51:40 where I live
51:42 if there is the money and I hear that
51:45 there is if this is the time and I hear
51:48 that now there is now is the time to put
51:51 in that traffic signal so another person
51:54 doesn't have to die whether it be a
51:56 young child or an older person like
51:58 myself if you have the means to do it
52:01 now please seriously consider doing so a
52:04 traffic signal it's a lot better than
52:07 going to the funeral thank you for your
52:10 time Thank You sandy lots of hands in
52:14 the air is there anyone else that would
52:16 like to address council this evening
52:18 mine forward to the microphone name and
52:21 address that would be great
52:37 my name is Beverly Nichols and I also
52:41 live in Providence Point and I just want
52:45 to add to what Mitch Reid said earlier
52:49 his friend is also my friend we all live
52:53 in the same building and the accident
52:57 happened several years ago she wasn't a
52:59 hundred and one when the accident
53:01 happened but her car did roll over
53:07 it was t-boned so hard and it was a
53:11 terrible accident like he said the car
53:15 was totaled and she had broken bones and
53:17 was in rehab for several months and
53:20 everything and every day there's a
53:24 possibility of something like that
53:26 happening again
53:28 and I really implore you to put the
53:33 traffic light in that you promised so
53:37 many years ago thank you
53:40 Thank You Bev heads in the air is there
53:43 anyone else would like to address the
53:45 council assuming come on forward sir
53:57 jack'll us live in Providence points for
54:01 spillage looking around here I would
54:06 guess that 80% or so of the people here
54:10 are old enough to be your parents of
54:14 every one of you
54:16 grandparents somebody said so would you
54:20 like to have your parent or grandparent
54:23 drive across from Forest Village to the
54:26 other side of Providence Point with the
54:29 traffic up and down
54:30 worse yet would you like them to try
54:32 walking across that's it thank you thank
54:38 you
54:38 is there anyone else would like to speak
54:40 seeming con for it sir
54:55 good evening mayor members of the
54:57 council and thank you for giving us this
55:00 time to express our concerns my name is
55:03 Dan Sweeney and I also live in
55:06 Providence Point in the forest Village
55:07 area and I won't repeat all the the
55:10 cogent and pertinent comments that my
55:12 fellow residents have made about the
55:15 need for this traffic light and the need
55:17 to keep the promises that the city has
55:19 made over the years but I'll just add
55:22 that while this is an issue of concern
55:24 for the safety and well-being of the
55:26 residents of Providence Point it is not
55:29 just out of our own concern that we're
55:31 requesting that this promise be kept
55:33 there are thousands of residents of
55:37 Issaquah that drive southeast 43rd way
55:40 every day there are hundreds perhaps
55:43 thousands of children who go on that
55:47 road every day there are at least dozens
55:51 of new drivers who are driving on this
55:55 road where the speed limits are often
55:57 exceeded and the driving attention is
56:00 often less than it should be so we're
56:02 and then you add folks like us whose
56:06 vision is not as good as it used to be
56:08 whose timing is not as good as it used
56:11 to be who are frequently driving on 43rd
56:14 way or crossing from one side of
56:16 Providence point to another
56:18 this creates a danger not only to the
56:21 community who lives there and the
56:23 communities that are being built below
56:24 and above and the schools that are being
56:26 built but to all the residents who drive
56:29 the road regularly so we ask for the
56:31 sake of all of those citizens who reside
56:34 in Issaquah and who pay taxes here that
56:38 this be funded now thank you thank you
56:41 Dan lots of support lots of hands raised
56:44 is there anyone else who would like to
56:45 address Council this evening is Reva
56:51 back in the building
56:52 Cal asked a second time is there anyone
56:55 else who would like to address council
56:57 during audience comments and a third
57:00 okay thank you all for coming in and
57:03 thank you for the comments the majority
57:04 of them tonight were about southeast
57:06 43rd line
57:08 as the city administrator had said there
57:13 is not a decision tonight that the
57:15 council will be taking on this project
57:17 but it is good that you all came and you
57:20 all gave your information and your facts
57:22 so that council could hear it and it's
57:23 on camera and it's recorded so thank you
57:25 very much for that moving off of
57:28 audience comments we'll start with
57:30 committee and regional reports and we'll
57:32 start with councilmember Walsh thank you
57:34 I have no report at this time Thank You
57:37 councilmember hunt thank you madam mayor
57:39 I have three regional reports this
57:42 evening on May 8th I attended the King
57:45 conservation advisory committee meeting
57:47 in this meeting we finalized our letter
57:50 from the king conservation advisory
57:52 committee to the King Conservation
57:54 District Board of Supervisors regarding
57:57 our advice on their proposed rate
57:59 increase the advisory committee was
58:03 generally supportive of the work that
58:05 the King conservation district does and
58:07 we also had a number of recommendations
58:11 regarding clarity as far as what they
58:13 put forward in the proposal what work
58:15 will be funded by the proposed rate
58:18 increase specifically and then what
58:20 could also be funded by additional
58:22 funding if they do acquire additional
58:24 funding from grants and this also
58:27 reflects some of the feedback that we
58:29 heard at the pick the public issues
58:32 committee by sound sound cities
58:35 Association the next meeting of the King
58:39 Conservation District advisory committee
58:40 has not yet been set on May 16th I
58:44 attended the Huayra 8 water resource
58:46 inventory area eight salmon recovery
58:48 Council meeting we heard an update on
58:51 salmon related topics from the last
58:53 legislative session why are eight salmon
58:57 recovery council connected with the
58:58 number of officials in the state
58:59 legislature to give our point of view on
59:02 the salmon particularly the salmon
59:05 habitat issues that were at the
59:07 legislature and the state legislatures
59:10 capital budget did reflect increasing
59:12 funding for the Puget Sound acquisition
59:15 and restoration program including the
59:19 River Bend flat
59:20 playing restoration project on the Cedar
59:22 River and that was extremely important
59:24 for salmon recovery so we were very
59:27 happy with that oak outcome and the Y
59:30 rates and recovery council wrote a
59:31 letter to the legislature to thank them
59:33 and then we also discussed the 2020 y
59:36 rate budget and work plan and the
59:40 funding recommendations regarding
59:43 different science and research that
59:45 should be funded to support salmon
59:48 recovery and then we also heard two
59:52 guests presentations one was from Chris
59:56 Bremer the King County rivers and
59:58 floodplain management about flood
1:00:00 control districts priority projects and
1:00:02 why were eighth and this was interesting
1:00:04 because they do flood floodplain
1:00:07 management work and we talked about how
1:00:09 that might align with habitat
1:00:11 restoration work in the future and how
1:00:14 yr8 might work with the floodplain
1:00:16 management folks and then we also talked
1:00:19 we also heard a presentation about the
1:00:21 holder Creek riparian restoration
1:00:24 projects this is a riparian restoration
1:00:26 project that's right outside of Issaquah
1:00:28 and it is a King County ecological
1:00:33 restoration project where they're
1:00:36 restoring habitats that for a long time
1:00:38 was grazed the next meeting of the
1:00:41 salmon recovery council will be on
1:00:43 Thursday July 18th from 2:00 to 4:15
1:00:47 p.m. and then lastly on May 9th I
1:00:50 attended the cascade water Alliance
1:00:52 resource management committee meeting
1:00:54 I have note for this group the Cascade
1:00:58 we'll be using a new or a newly approved
1:01:03 herbicide called prosp'rous alecour and
1:01:06 this is less expensive and for water
1:01:09 management and for milfoil to treat
1:01:12 milfoil for water quality on the Lake
1:01:15 Tapps Reservoir and we also discussed
1:01:18 the Seattle Public Utilities Block
1:01:21 contract negotiations the July 2013
1:01:25 block contracts with Seattle Public
1:01:27 Utilities provides that either party can
1:01:31 request consideration of an expense
1:01:32 and so cascade intends to begin
1:01:35 discussion with the seattle public
1:01:37 utilities in the near future so that
1:01:40 they can start discussing that and that
1:01:42 the decision can be included in cascades
1:01:45 transmission and supply plan the next
1:01:48 meeting of the cascade water Alliance
1:01:49 will be Wednesday May 22nd at 3:30 p.m.
1:01:52 at the cascade office and Bellevue and
1:01:55 that concludes my report
1:01:56 Thank You councilmember Rea Thank You
1:01:59 mayor Polly on May 9th I attended the
1:02:02 Eastside Fire and Rescue Board meeting
1:02:03 there were a number of key items on the
1:02:06 agenda we received a briefing from the
1:02:08 fire chief the first item was related to
1:02:10 P Foss and P FOA the chief mentioned
1:02:14 that Senator mullet was successful in
1:02:16 passing legislation in the last
1:02:18 Washington's eight legislative session
1:02:20 that included a $400,000 budget for
1:02:23 remediation Thank You senator mullet
1:02:26 we also talked briefly about the fall
1:02:28 city merger that would have merged Fire
1:02:30 District 28 with Fire District 10 and
1:02:33 added Fall City into the East Side Fire
1:02:36 and Rescue family that initiative failed
1:02:39 we talked briefly about fire ground 101
1:02:43 recap we talked about that our last
1:02:45 meeting
1:02:47 the chief attended the Congressional
1:02:49 Fire Service Institute which was in
1:02:51 Washington DC which gave him a number of
1:02:53 other chiefs in King County an
1:02:54 opportunity to speak with our federal
1:02:57 senators and representatives and then
1:02:59 the chief also attended the employer
1:03:02 support of Guard and Reserve banquet
1:03:05 where East Haifa and rescue received and
1:03:07 above and beyond award for support of
1:03:10 the site find rescue members who are
1:03:12 deployed in military service and just a
1:03:18 couple of interesting other things on
1:03:20 the agenda was we the board approved a
1:03:25 resolution to exempt East Side Fire and
1:03:27 Rescue from an alternative fuel
1:03:29 requirement that is coming out of the
1:03:31 state there's a provision to exempt
1:03:35 public safety agencies from the
1:03:38 alternative fuel requirement that will
1:03:40 also have to come to this body for
1:03:42 review in a
1:03:43 the liberation also we had a brief
1:03:46 discussion on accreditation and also on
1:03:49 the Washington State ratings board and
1:03:53 the impact that that might have on our
1:03:56 rating as a fire district and small
1:03:59 changes there and that was um wraps up
1:04:02 Eastside fire rescue the services the
1:04:05 safety committee did not meet this month
1:04:07 and that concludes my report this
1:04:09 evening Thank You councilmember winter
1:04:11 Stein thank you madam mayor I only have
1:04:13 to report on the council Infrastructure
1:04:14 Committee we met last Thursday May 16th
1:04:17 here in Council Chambers there was one
1:04:20 item on the agenda and then a project
1:04:21 status update that we got the agenda
1:04:23 item was addenda bill 77 93 the
1:04:26 anti-aircraft culverts stream bed
1:04:28 rehabilitation project after discussion
1:04:31 after a presentation discussion with
1:04:34 staff the committee voted to refer that
1:04:40 agenda bill to tonight's agenda it's on
1:04:44 the consent agenda for approval of the
1:04:47 to award the maintenance contract as
1:04:50 requested by staff then then the the
1:04:54 project status was about the wash dot
1:04:57 bid opening of the project for the i-90
1:05:00 auxiliary lanes and that was scheduled
1:05:04 to be open last Wednesday the 15th but
1:05:07 it's been extended and now it's gonna
1:05:08 open up on two days from now so two days
1:05:11 from now we'll know more about the that
1:05:15 wash dot project and what it means for
1:05:18 us and Northwest Sammamish Road that
1:05:20 concludes my report thank you
1:05:22 councilmember Goodman I thank you madam
1:05:23 mayor no report tonight you deputy
1:05:26 council president batiste
1:05:27 thank you madam mayor no report this
1:05:29 evening that's the president Mertz thank
1:05:31 you madam mayor the sound cities
1:05:33 association public issues committee met
1:05:35 on Wednesday May 8th we did have the pre
1:05:38 Peck meeting was an mcbarns McFarland's
1:05:41 using Roberts rules to keep discussions
1:05:43 civil and cordial and then in the
1:05:46 regular meeting there was no proposed
1:05:49 action considered King County growth
1:05:53 management policy council GNPC
1:05:55 meeting on Wednesday July 24th the
1:05:58 agenda is still TBD that concludes my
1:06:00 report thank you for the mayor's report
1:06:03 there will be no executive session this
1:06:05 evening
1:06:06 last week National Police week I made a
1:06:09 proclamation on May 15 that the police
1:06:12 department briefing you shoot a
1:06:14 proclamation for the week of May 12 to
1:06:16 18 2019 to be national peacekeepers and
1:06:19 police officers week to pay special
1:06:21 tribute to those men and women who serve
1:06:23 our community I thank them for their
1:06:25 service they provide to our community by
1:06:27 safeguarding life from property and
1:06:29 protecting our residents and businesses
1:06:30 I want to provide in my mayor's report
1:06:34 through most of the summer an update on
1:06:37 the city administrator recruitment so we
1:06:39 have hired our consultant to do this
1:06:43 recruitment and we are using Cara's
1:06:45 consulting there were some stakeholder
1:06:48 interviews conducted over the last two
1:06:50 weeks with our city leadership team and
1:06:52 members of our City Council and the
1:06:54 purpose of these interviews was to
1:06:55 gather input as to the qualifications of
1:06:58 the ideal candidate we are seeking
1:07:00 applications will be accepted until June
1:07:03 12th the city staff and public who wish
1:07:06 to provide input into the hiring process
1:07:07 are encouraged to participate in an
1:07:09 online survey that we will be posting
1:07:11 shortly and we're hoping to complete our
1:07:13 first round and finalist interviews in
1:07:15 July also there will be a public forum
1:07:18 to meet the finalists on July 25th
1:07:21 location TBD the 2019 job fair the city
1:07:26 of Vista co-hosted its sixth annual job
1:07:28 fair on May 8th at the Pickering barn
1:07:29 there were 44 participating businesses
1:07:32 and over 220 applicants and I want to
1:07:34 thank the city staff for hosting and to
1:07:37 volunteers that came that day and
1:07:39 provided resume review and interview
1:07:40 prep for the applicants at the fair a
1:07:43 little bit about the parent project the
1:07:45 Issaquah Police Department participates
1:07:47 in a nationally recognized program the
1:07:49 parent project focused on changing
1:07:51 destructive adolescent behavior they
1:07:54 just completed the second series of
1:07:55 classes last month and have had very
1:07:57 good feedback the program was created to
1:08:00 empower parents specifically those with
1:08:02 strong will difficult or out-of-control
1:08:04 adolescents
1:08:05 this 10-week program and this this is a
1:08:08 we program in the city we'll be offering
1:08:10 it twice a year in the spring and fall
1:08:12 and for those interested in
1:08:14 participating in the next series of the
1:08:15 parent project or just to get more
1:08:17 information please reach out to corporal
1:08:19 Ryan Smith by emailing him at Ryan PS at
1:08:23 su Kwong Wah gov the next I held a
1:08:28 coffee with the mayor event this weekend
1:08:31 up it talas anchor had coffee and the
1:08:34 next coffee with the mayor event will be
1:08:35 held on Thursday June 6 from 7:00 p.m.
1:08:37 to 8:30 p.m. at the Starbucks coffee on
1:08:40 Gilman I look forward to engaging with
1:08:42 the communities at these events and we
1:08:44 are moving them around town different
1:08:46 days of the week different times and
1:08:47 different locales to see if we can get
1:08:50 into as many different neighborhoods as
1:08:51 we can 4:25 magazine has just completed
1:08:55 an article called
1:08:56 I think it's the best city Awards or I
1:09:00 think it's a broader name than that but
1:09:02 in its annual edition it has listed its
1:09:07 a qua as winning the best city
1:09:08 recognition this year there are several
1:09:11 other categories for businesses in town
1:09:13 and events in town there were also local
1:09:15 winners best festival salmon days
1:09:17 greeter is Squatch Chamber of Commerce
1:09:19 best live theater village theater and
1:09:21 best shoe shop crushed Footwear so that
1:09:24 was fun article to read and we usually
1:09:27 on this meeting have a visitor from the
1:09:31 VFW who comes to make sure we're all
1:09:33 aware of what's going on on Memorial Day
1:09:35 but dave is unable to join us today he's
1:09:37 out of town
1:09:39 I wanted to provide some information on
1:09:41 Memorial Day celebrations on Monday so
1:09:43 our local VFW would like to extend an
1:09:46 invitation to the community to attend a
1:09:48 10:00 a.m. and Morial Day celebration at
1:09:50 hillside Cemetery in Issaquah guest
1:09:53 speaker will be former mayor Fred Butler
1:09:55 and they're also hopeful that
1:09:57 congresswoman Kim Shriya will also be
1:09:59 able to join and address the crowd in
1:10:01 case of inclement weather that day the
1:10:03 event will be held at the Issaquah
1:10:04 Senior Center located beside Memorial
1:10:06 Field in Old Town and that concludes the
1:10:08 mayor's report proceeding to the consent
1:10:12 calendar the consent calendar was
1:10:14 distributed to council in advance if
1:10:16 authorized the items on the consent
1:10:17 calendar will be considered for approval
1:10:20 with one motion
1:10:21 have the payables and payroll been
1:10:24 reviewed they have thank you does any
1:10:26 councilmember desire to remove any item
1:10:28 from the consent calendar and consider
1:10:30 it under regular business none is there
1:10:34 a motion madam mayor I move we adopt the
1:10:37 consent calendar is listed in tonight's
1:10:39 meeting agenda second it's been moved
1:10:42 and seconded all those in favor signify
1:10:44 by saying aye aye proposed a passes
1:10:48 unanimously the next and last item under
1:10:52 business tonight is on regular business
1:10:54 a b7 287 City Council rules of procedure
1:10:58 this item came before council at the
1:11:01 February first special council meeting
1:11:03 and at the March 11th council work
1:11:05 session following the staff presentation
1:11:08 this evening council will have the
1:11:09 option to adopt the rules or provide
1:11:11 specific direction on the remaining
1:11:13 areas of focus and next steps so our
1:11:16 city clerk Tina Eggers will make a
1:11:17 presentation hi thank you just give me a
1:11:23 moment here to pull this up all right
1:11:27 yes thank you and I wanted to thank our
1:11:29 deputy city clerk tisha Geezer for her
1:11:32 work on these draft rules a lot of time
1:11:34 and energy went into drafting them and
1:11:36 thank you
1:11:38 yes we're excited to be back in front of
1:11:40 you we were here earlier this year and
1:11:44 the goal at that time was to incorporate
1:11:47 the outcomes into the draft rules and to
1:11:50 return to a regular council meeting for
1:11:52 adoption these rules this is a slide
1:11:55 you've seen before but this the rules
1:11:58 kind of demonstrates the hierarchy or
1:12:01 where they fall into other rules or
1:12:03 other Authority and the intent is that
1:12:08 the rules document your processes
1:12:11 provide specificity but still allowing
1:12:15 flexibility clarifies processes and
1:12:19 serves as a resource this slide is to
1:12:24 demonstrate the chapters or sections
1:12:26 that are built into the rules of
1:12:29 procedure it's a starting point
1:12:34 and it's today's or the curtain point of
1:12:36 time it's not necessarily to include
1:12:40 everything in every detail again to
1:12:43 provide some flexibility and can of
1:12:46 course be revisited and amended such
1:12:49 will be returning in August with further
1:12:52 amendments for your consideration as we
1:12:56 move through this study session model
1:12:59 and while we're not delving into a study
1:13:04 session transition this is a timeline
1:13:06 that you've seen previous and a memo and
1:13:09 just wanted to show that we would be
1:13:13 bringing some informational updates to
1:13:15 you in July and bringing additional
1:13:18 amendments to you in August so the rules
1:13:21 of procedure are drafted they're
1:13:24 attached to the exhibit of the
1:13:27 resolution that's in your packet and
1:13:31 what we'd like to do is bring this back
1:13:34 to your deliberation find out if you
1:13:38 have questions if there's clarity that
1:13:40 you're seeking or any areas that need
1:13:43 focus Thank You Tina
1:13:46 you do know that there are at least a
1:13:48 couple of council members who have
1:13:50 listed some items so my suggestion would
1:13:53 be that we maybe get all of those out on
1:13:55 the table and the group can look at
1:13:59 those and decide if you believe that
1:14:01 there's possibility of talking those
1:14:04 through tonight and moving to adoption
1:14:05 weekend if you want to take a different
1:14:07 path we can take a different path as
1:14:09 well so maybe I'll start with
1:14:11 councilmember Rey and then move to
1:14:12 councilmember winter saying I just have
1:14:16 a couple of clarifications and first
1:14:19 Tina what's the urgency on this given
1:14:21 that you're going to be back in a short
1:14:23 couple of months to amend this to
1:14:27 incorporate the trial of the work study
1:14:30 or this weren't in a study session model
1:14:32 simply just trying to move this forward
1:14:35 that's been on the work plan for some
1:14:37 time and this met the deadline of when
1:14:41 we last spoke with Council
1:14:45 okay thanks do you want to list any of
1:14:49 their artists okay counsel Myra winter
1:14:52 Stein do you have anything you wanted to
1:14:54 put on the table there's a number I
1:14:58 don't have them in priority order okay
1:15:00 so I'm kind of like tried to distill
1:15:03 some of this and I and I unfortunately
1:15:07 think I missed the earlier opportunity
1:15:09 perhaps at work session when you discuss
1:15:10 some of these so this is gonna might
1:15:14 feel a little bit like work session and
1:15:16 this is my first opportunity to have
1:15:18 someone's conversations and no surprises
1:15:19 team and I like to the number one thing
1:15:24 I wanted to address was section 4.15
1:15:29 regular business paragraph B procedure I
1:15:35 can read it to you Tina it's it's about
1:15:37 regular business subparagraph a defines
1:15:41 what regular business is paragraph B
1:15:43 subparagraph B talks about the procedure
1:15:48 and and it's it's it's there numerated
1:15:52 steps beneath that introduced the prison
1:15:54 introduction by presiding officer
1:15:56 presentation by city staff such as you
1:15:58 just did council questions is number
1:16:01 three counsel motion is number four and
1:16:03 then five is discussion and possible
1:16:05 action and I believe that in the last
1:16:10 probably three to four years this
1:16:15 council has gotten a little bit more
1:16:17 rigorous with this give me your
1:16:20 questions than emotion and then kind of
1:16:22 following this I wanted to put out there
1:16:25 I was I've never been comfortable with
1:16:29 that structure and I think there needs
1:16:33 to be a little bit more leeway and and
1:16:35 for example the idea of maybe not
1:16:40 questions not following the motion or
1:16:43 maybe I'm actually going through all
1:16:47 these questions before a motion is made
1:16:48 I just think there should be some
1:16:50 flexibility in this process and part of
1:16:53 it for me personally is that it's not
1:16:55 uncommon for me to be up here and and
1:16:58 haven't made my decision yet I'm still
1:16:59 thinking I'm hearing input from others
1:17:03 by asking questions and making comments
1:17:06 you know I'm learning and digesting the
1:17:09 entire topic so I think there is quite a
1:17:11 bit of I think there is some variety and
1:17:17 nuance of how each council member
1:17:18 decision-making and thought processes
1:17:20 work so I just I wanted to have a
1:17:23 conversation about this because I know
1:17:25 we often do this okay questions okay is
1:17:28 there a motion okay now discussion and I
1:17:31 think for me personally that doesn't
1:17:33 always facilitate the process of
1:17:36 actually fully discerning and making a
1:17:39 decision on a matter did you have a
1:17:42 suggestion of how you would want to
1:17:44 reword it or did you just want discuss
1:17:48 so I'm curious
1:17:49 so it's numbered and it's sequential and
1:17:52 you know madam mayor I know that you
1:17:55 often follow this and it's been there's
1:17:59 been many times where it doesn't work
1:18:02 for me
1:18:02 and I just I was hoping to have a
1:18:04 conversation that's why I said this
1:18:05 might feel like a work session not like
1:18:07 regular business being so that was one
1:18:09 of them and we can we don't have to
1:18:10 discuss it any further and then allow
1:18:13 you as a group to decide what you want
1:18:15 to do with it okay um I wanted to
1:18:23 address word out 12 subparagraph C and I
1:18:30 was one of the reviewers tonight we have
1:18:33 to address this even that paragraph the
1:18:35 last sentence in paragraph C says does
1:18:38 it seem reasonable that the city has
1:18:39 expended this for this purpose and for
1:18:42 this amount I'm gonna be really honest
1:18:44 with you I don't think the council
1:18:46 really this is kind of a comment about
1:18:47 that report as well I don't really think
1:18:50 we have the kind of the right
1:18:51 information formatted properly or even
1:18:53 legible to really fulfill what that asks
1:18:56 I think it's nearly impossible to do
1:18:58 that's the sidebar comment but if we put
1:19:01 one other thing in this paragraph I mean
1:19:03 so that's a comment I think for
1:19:04 follow-up it's a different issue but I
1:19:05 would add also this paragraph something
1:19:07 I think it's very important that we also
1:19:10 add a note that we should verify that
1:19:13 the finance directors that test
1:19:15 attestation at the beginning of this
1:19:17 report that's a very key element that I
1:19:20 look for and so it goes beyond just
1:19:23 looking at trying to understand each of
1:19:26 the lines in that report
1:19:31 [Music]
1:19:41 in three oats I'm I'm going up 309
1:19:45 Council and staff interactions and your
1:19:50 guidelines number two so number one says
1:19:56 it's 3:09
1:20:03 number one says council council I'm
1:20:12 sorry the first part of the paragraph
1:20:14 I'm sorry the first part number two says
1:20:15 council policy makers and staff as
1:20:22 administering the policies and you know
1:20:24 it's kind of a language thing but I just
1:20:26 thought that that self staff pretty
1:20:28 short because it feels that one
1:20:31 basically says we make the policy you
1:20:33 administer the policy and there's some
1:20:35 truth to that
1:20:36 but I think it falls pretty fall short
1:20:39 of a lot of the interactions that we
1:20:40 have because staff are subject matter
1:20:42 experts and and and they consult us to
1:20:46 us as council member on a range of
1:20:49 topics so I just thought that the way
1:20:51 that that one was stated it didn't fully
1:20:56 illuminate really what the relationship
1:20:59 is it's more than just carrying out the
1:21:00 policies
1:21:09 now I want you to I was tempted to add
1:21:11 one in therefore to suggest one for
1:21:15 council president and deputy president
1:21:17 but guys might not be interested in this
1:21:20 one I think we just have a rule that the
1:21:22 council president you know makes a
1:21:24 motion to approve consent and the deputy
1:21:25 president makes that so it's written
1:21:27 somewhere we seem to follow that we did
1:21:31 it again tonight there one of the things
1:21:35 I found Tina threw out here and I have a
1:21:37 number of I won't cite them all to you
1:21:40 right now there's a there's three
1:21:41 different areas where it talks about
1:21:43 agenda and I think in the especially the
1:21:49 part where the president works with
1:21:51 administration and the mayor on setting
1:21:54 the agenda and preparing the agenda and
1:21:57 then I think we lose some of the
1:22:00 language that with some of that intent
1:22:02 is lost later on I can get you the
1:22:04 details where I found that Tina and then
1:22:07 it goes back to kind of agenda and
1:22:09 setting it some of those the original
1:22:12 details kind of come back into these so
1:22:14 there's some inconsistency in that area
1:22:16 I think the intent is that I think in
1:22:19 the one in the middle it basically says
1:22:21 Senate eadministrator will set the
1:22:23 agenda but I know what really happens
1:22:25 and for the intent of the other ones
1:22:27 it's what happens in leadership and the
1:22:29 president is part of that but that
1:22:31 middle section drops that intent and and
1:22:39 I have and so I have some mother and
1:22:42 some of this might you just want to
1:22:43 consider it the like housecleaning I
1:22:45 think the in the appointments section so
1:22:47 I've come up to 204 now I I appreciate
1:22:54 the effort that went in here I think
1:22:56 it's clearer than it was before and I
1:22:58 think there is but if you didn't know
1:23:00 that the optional seats a lot of times
1:23:03 that they have to come early because
1:23:06 right at some it says right there and be
1:23:10 that in January that's when we'll find
1:23:12 out what you're interested in but that
1:23:15 in B but in as it says in one in
1:23:18 paragraph a
1:23:21 to some of them the regional or optional
1:23:25 ones there is a different schedule and I
1:23:27 think that kind of gets lost in here the
1:23:31 rest of the whole section just talks
1:23:33 about the appointments that the mayor
1:23:36 and the president make when in fact
1:23:38 there's a significant role of the mayor
1:23:41 and the president and the clerk involved
1:23:43 with just kind of facilitating an
1:23:46 application that a councilmember may
1:23:48 make to a regional one rather than
1:23:49 making the appointment itself
1:24:12 I'm going back through my notes
1:24:36 oh and then probably one last
1:24:39 significant one in 4.14 and this has
1:24:47 actually come up before subparagraph B
1:24:49 deals with this so this is quasi
1:24:51 judicial decisions and appeal
1:24:52 subparagraph P in that leaving paragraph
1:24:57 the second the last sentence talks about
1:25:00 the phrase in there talks about the all
1:25:07 documents and exhibits that have been
1:25:09 submitted and I remember a case where
1:25:13 some of the submitted material had
1:25:16 references or links to other documents
1:25:18 and we had a conversation of whether or
1:25:20 not they were in the record or not and I
1:25:24 think it'd be good to get clarification
1:25:25 and these of whether or not they are
1:25:27 part of the record and we talked about
1:25:30 it then some of you might remember that
1:25:32 conversation I don't really remember the
1:25:34 outcome but I know that that was a
1:25:36 question in front of the counsel whether
1:25:38 or not referenced or linked documents in
1:25:41 the record were also considered part of
1:25:43 the record and therefore should be
1:25:45 provided or not to counsel I think it
1:25:49 was made available made available right
1:25:54 so I just that's not addressed here it
1:25:56 just says if they're if they've been
1:25:59 submitted and I was just wondering if
1:26:02 this should address documents that have
1:26:05 been referenced
1:26:21 and you know and I have some smaller one
1:26:24 I'm sorry these are kind of in random
1:26:25 order or down in 4.20 it's you know we
1:26:31 have this is a small until in
1:26:36 recognition it says raise your hand but
1:26:38 when we sit it like counsel work
1:26:39 sessions we we have all learned to kind
1:26:41 of turn our mic on to indicate that
1:26:43 we've got a question and I think there's
1:26:47 just started multiple ways in which we
1:26:48 try to alert the presider that we have
1:26:51 something we want to speak about and
1:26:53 it's not just raising the hands
1:27:04 and then in 4.2 six which deals with
1:27:08 rules of conduct I think there's a
1:27:10 really good chap paragraph in there
1:27:12 it's a 426 a three general paragraph
1:27:18 subparagraph three council members shall
1:27:20 limit the use of electronic
1:27:21 communications during meetings in order
1:27:23 to ensure that they remain engaged with
1:27:25 the public and with each other in the in
1:27:27 the conduct of business and it goes and
1:27:30 there's a little bit more in there yeah
1:27:32 thank you and I think I think that's a
1:27:34 really good point but at the same time
1:27:38 [Music]
1:27:40 maybe there should be some clarification
1:27:42 and air about just kind of the use of
1:27:45 computers during it so for example I all
1:27:47 my materials are electronic and all my
1:27:49 notes are electronic so I'm still using
1:27:51 my electronics during the meeting and I
1:27:55 think that this makes a really good
1:27:58 point about the MIS potential property
1:28:01 or the proper use of electronic
1:28:02 communications but I don't I wouldn't
1:28:06 want that to be maybe misunderstood to
1:28:09 be use of any electronics during the
1:28:11 meeting since I think it would be as a
1:28:13 general for a general rule of conduct at
1:28:17 you know obviously the use of our our
1:28:18 computers is should be allowed yeah that
1:28:23 wasn't the intent to prohibit use of
1:28:26 defined it doesn't prohibit it you're
1:28:28 like you said I just thought it just
1:28:29 seemed like a nice complimentary one to
1:28:31 add and under the general section just
1:28:33 so it would be clear
1:28:50 okay though that was the thanks for your
1:28:54 patience and listening as I go through
1:28:55 so I I think the first one that I
1:28:59 mentioned which had a real order in
1:29:01 questions motion discussion is the one I
1:29:06 feel strongest about and I don't know
1:29:09 and I don't know if it's represented in
1:29:12 these rules in the way that I think it
1:29:14 ought to be but I that would be the one
1:29:16 I like to hear more input from my
1:29:18 colleagues about so that's it I have a
1:29:24 few other there's a few there
1:29:26 Scrivener errors really small ones but I
1:29:29 can get them to you okay so thank you I
1:29:35 think I caught about eight of the some
1:29:39 more higher priority and requiring
1:29:40 discussion others not kinds of memory
1:29:43 from your question I got the sense that
1:29:46 maybe we're there on timing of how to do
1:29:50 this or discuss that you may have some
1:29:52 thoughts
1:29:52 well there's there seems to be a sense
1:29:54 of urgency to push forward with this and
1:29:56 since we're gonna revisit this again
1:29:58 later this summer I'm of the mind that
1:30:02 we can push forward with this and get it
1:30:04 off the work plan and then if there are
1:30:06 other items we need to address we can
1:30:07 reopen it when we are reopening it for
1:30:09 subsequent business I make sure I
1:30:12 understand you you're saying move
1:30:16 meaning vote tonight to accept and then
1:30:19 update it in the fall or - that was my
1:30:22 okay that's what you're suggesting so
1:30:25 what I'd like to do is make sure we hear
1:30:27 from all the other council members
1:30:28 you're a body of seven we've heard from
1:30:31 - so Lily would like to know where your
1:30:34 thoughts are councilmember hunt I had
1:30:40 thoughts on the part about the work
1:30:44 session and then the committees so that
1:30:48 is 5.01 and 6.01
1:30:52 and basically my my
1:30:59 concerned I think is around the the
1:31:03 timing because currently both of these
1:31:05 have this they have a footnote that
1:31:08 these sections are anticipated to be
1:31:11 removed but I think it's potentially
1:31:13 more than that we're gonna have a
1:31:14 discussion about how they might be
1:31:17 changed and how these so so it looks
1:31:21 right now right now it looks like those
1:31:22 sections will be removed but there's not
1:31:25 information about what they will replace
1:31:27 and it's a bit strange I think to have
1:31:30 it just say that this is going to be
1:31:32 removed and then not have information
1:31:35 about about what it will be replacing
1:31:38 and I think that we have to have those
1:31:40 conversations but because of the timing
1:31:42 of doing this now when we're going to
1:31:44 have later conversations about
1:31:45 transitioning to a study session I think
1:31:47 it makes it awkward I have those but
1:31:50 notes so that's that's a comment and I
1:31:53 think if we were to work through these
1:31:57 sections later when we have that when we
1:32:02 after we've had those conversations
1:32:03 about how the work sessions will work in
1:32:06 terms of the items that currently go to
1:32:07 committee if we are transitioning to a
1:32:09 work session how that how those are
1:32:11 chaired how those items are going
1:32:14 through this different process then I
1:32:17 think we could have a document that
1:32:19 would be more meaningful going forward
1:32:23 for how we would structure that and then
1:32:25 I also I also on the issue that council
1:32:31 member winter sign brought up regarding
1:32:33 the review of the Finance document the
1:32:40 I'm not sure which section that is but
1:32:42 within that section I think it would
1:32:44 also be good to have some a statement
1:32:47 about what the expectation is for what
1:32:50 you do with that question so right now
1:32:53 it says you ask a question does it seem
1:32:55 reasonable and then it says you know
1:32:57 that you attest that you reviewed it but
1:32:59 I think there's some more guidance there
1:33:01 as far as if you have a question and you
1:33:03 what do you do with that question you
1:33:06 ask the city clerk or you ask the
1:33:09 finance director
1:33:10 so I would just like to put that forward
1:33:12 about what a little bit more guidance on
1:33:16 that one that's it great and
1:33:18 councilmember Walsh teach of your hand
1:33:20 up no but I'm happy to talk at this time
1:33:26 generally I don't think I have a problem
1:33:29 with this to me it's more of a
1:33:33 clarifying compared to the 2010 council
1:33:38 resource manual which was very bulky I
1:33:41 appreciate that this is streamlined I
1:33:47 would like to know looking at that idea
1:33:51 of study sessions if the section 5 & 6
1:33:56 are going to be removed with that idea
1:34:01 or at least that's what's being proposed
1:34:03 here I assume that a section will be
1:34:08 added in there you discuss what the
1:34:11 study session rules of procedure are
1:34:13 correct and an ordinance would be
1:34:15 provided at that time as well to make
1:34:16 IMC adjustments which is why this was
1:34:20 considered phase 1 phase 2 to come back
1:34:23 with amendments and the actual ordinance
1:34:25 - to change the IMC in the timing of
1:34:28 that is in the fall well what we would
1:34:33 like to do is well we're already working
1:34:35 towards transitioning to study session
1:34:37 format that's the direction that we
1:34:39 received previous so there's quite a bit
1:34:41 of work to go into place to make that
1:34:43 happen
1:34:44 and so we would be back in front of
1:34:47 Council before September so we were
1:34:50 aiming for August's with some
1:34:52 informational updates in July as
1:34:57 president Mertz
1:34:58 so I think this is a great draft
1:35:02 document and I think it follows on
1:35:06 conversations that the council members
1:35:08 have had with each other and with the
1:35:09 administration
1:35:11 I think it has engendered a further
1:35:15 conversation and I think that we've
1:35:18 heard some tonight councilmember Ray's
1:35:20 being very quiet but he had a
1:35:22 number of points that he shared with
1:35:24 council offline everybody's seen those
1:35:28 and so I feel like personally I feel
1:35:36 like there's a I would like to see it
1:35:40 doing some sort of retreat to go through
1:35:42 this item by item I just feel like
1:35:44 there's a large enough list the this is
1:35:47 a great starting point I don't think
1:35:48 this is a fundamentally I mean this is a
1:35:50 this is a this has to me done exactly
1:35:52 what it should do it just which is put
1:35:54 something out there that we could have a
1:35:56 discussion about and and it has
1:35:58 engendered a bunch of conversation but I
1:35:59 I don't think tonight I don't think we
1:36:03 want to try to to to finish this
1:36:05 conversation tonight I think the
1:36:07 administration has has heard both from
1:36:10 us tonight in from councilmen Berets
1:36:11 written comments where the where the
1:36:14 points of discussion are and I'm
1:36:16 confident that with one off-site we
1:36:19 could we could get through that list and
1:36:21 and talk through it amongst ourselves
1:36:23 and I also think that the nature of
1:36:25 council duties ours are a little
1:36:27 different than other topics that we
1:36:29 cover as a council and I I found the
1:36:32 retreat process late this winter to be
1:36:35 helpful in being away from the dais I
1:36:37 normally love being up here I love the
1:36:40 eight of us talking up here but I think
1:36:42 that these topics were we got better we
1:36:46 got a more candid conversation when we
1:36:49 were in retreat format so you know if
1:36:51 the majority of the council wants to
1:36:53 move forward tonight I'm I don't I don't
1:36:56 have any heartburn over it but I would
1:36:58 prefer that we take this up and retreat
1:37:00 Thank You deputy council person please
1:37:04 thank you madam mayor so I'm going to
1:37:07 start out just by throwing out a few
1:37:10 more issues for the list and as I was
1:37:14 reading through one more time a couple
1:37:18 of things came up for me in Section 2
1:37:22 2.0 to be on the survey this is the
1:37:28 election of council president and deputy
1:37:29 council president it says that that's
1:37:31 going to happen in just
1:37:33 and it will be shared prior to the
1:37:37 election of leadership in January I was
1:37:39 just gonna say usually when we live by
1:37:41 the time we get to December where
1:37:44 there's holidays and that kind of thing
1:37:47 it seems like it's a little bit late so
1:37:49 something that we that we that's
1:37:51 brand-new the survey and so we want to
1:37:54 make sure that it actually is working
1:37:56 the way that it should be working and
1:37:58 I'm just wondering if a little bit
1:37:59 earlier might might be better for
1:38:02 everyone to then understand who is
1:38:05 interested in leadership a little bit
1:38:07 earlier than that and then number five
1:38:10 in that same section
1:38:12 I'm sorry process c5 where it talks
1:38:16 about if the first nominee receiving a
1:38:20 majority vote is declared the new
1:38:21 council president if there's a tie vote
1:38:23 the mayor may choose to break the tie I
1:38:26 just think in terms of the council
1:38:28 leadership and I I don't have any
1:38:33 wording that I've thought through here
1:38:35 but maybe if there would be an interim
1:38:37 step another vote or something that
1:38:40 would leave leave that to the council as
1:38:43 opposed to putting the mayor in the
1:38:45 situation to have to think about bris
1:38:46 breaking and tie especially right at the
1:38:49 beginning after that after that first
1:38:52 vote so maybe something additional there
1:38:55 then 4.12 the the Accounts Payable
1:39:03 payroll review I won't repeat what
1:39:05 councilmember winter Stein and
1:39:06 councilmember hunt spoke about but I
1:39:09 agree with both of those comments and I
1:39:12 think that we need to have more
1:39:14 information there and maybe just a
1:39:19 review of that section in general mm-hmm
1:39:22 [Music]
1:39:23 that thinks more about that and then
1:39:26 5.01 ii
1:39:34 so this has to do with the work sessions
1:39:36 and again I won't
1:39:38 I won't go back to what other council
1:39:41 members have talked about just in terms
1:39:42 of the whether that's going to be in
1:39:45 there not in there and those revisions
1:39:48 and and being able to work through that
1:39:50 but also when we talk about the agenda
1:39:53 preparation and II it says a majority of
1:39:57 the council forum members may request an
1:39:59 item to be added to a future work
1:40:01 session agenda
1:40:02 I believe councilmember Ray had the same
1:40:05 question and I had read the response
1:40:08 however I I would just say and I
1:40:11 understand it's a majority of the
1:40:13 council but I would you know typically
1:40:16 if we've had three members that have
1:40:18 been interested that was something that
1:40:22 could go forward and this is just the
1:40:24 the addition of an item to the work
1:40:29 agenda but so I just I would love to
1:40:31 hear what everybody else has to say
1:40:33 there but I'm not sure if we need to
1:40:36 have four and I believe that that is all
1:40:41 but in I've got some questions I think
1:40:44 that we have a fair amount of questions
1:40:46 I think that this has been a really
1:40:48 great first draft but I do think that
1:40:51 we're going to need it for me I think to
1:40:55 either come back and read some of the
1:40:58 edits to get more information or another
1:41:01 session as Tola talked about Thank You
1:41:05 councilmember Goodman Thank You Tina I
1:41:09 just had one question on 2.02 a timing
1:41:14 of election of council president deputy
1:41:17 president it says is to be is to take
1:41:19 place the first regular meeting of each
1:41:21 calendar year per the code and we have
1:41:24 had those elections that that election
1:41:27 before in the seconds you have and when
1:41:31 that occurs it's in a off election year
1:41:34 so that you can review that early when
1:41:38 that happens your code says you can
1:41:40 suspend your rules and so the agenda
1:41:43 bill walks you through making that
1:41:45 motion to
1:41:45 suspend and then conducting the election
1:41:49 in December okay I just want to make
1:41:51 sure that that's not it's you still have
1:41:53 that ability in terms of timing if we
1:41:58 were to not vote and take this to a
1:42:03 different meeting I think I'd be more in
1:42:06 favor of a work session rather than
1:42:07 another retreat certainly not sure I'm
1:42:12 interested in a separate new retreat
1:42:15 date yeah work sessions are full so we
1:42:18 would most likely be looking at a
1:42:20 special meeting to accommodate that work
1:42:23 but it doesn't have to be work session
1:42:26 format or sorry retreat format if that's
1:42:29 not the majority that's not ever
1:42:33 interesting thank you I want to make my
1:42:35 opening comment now and I really do
1:42:38 appreciate it as long as I've been on
1:42:42 the council now that this is the first
1:42:44 time I've this format this completeness
1:42:47 and it's responsive to things that have
1:42:50 happened so I really it is a good body
1:42:52 work I'd really do appreciate it and I
1:42:54 wish I had a different setting where we
1:42:56 could have gone through it a little bit
1:42:57 better this is my first opportunity but
1:42:59 I am you know I think there is I would
1:43:03 like the opportunity talked about a few
1:43:04 other things but overall this is this is
1:43:06 a really good document thanks for the
1:43:08 work I know tisha worked on it as well
1:43:09 thanks you both so I have heard from all
1:43:16 of you at least once and I have heard
1:43:18 let's vote on it tonight let's have a
1:43:21 retreat and let's do it at a work
1:43:23 session so council member right I'd like
1:43:25 to propose a alternate which is to
1:43:27 create an ad-hoc Rules Committee for
1:43:31 things and allow the ad-hoc committee to
1:43:36 work through some of these open issues
1:43:38 and that way we don't get tied up into
1:43:41 trying to schedule a work session I
1:43:43 think a group of three such as winter
1:43:46 Stein Mart's and hunt could do a
1:43:49 fantastic job
1:43:52 fantastic job of working through the
1:43:54 open issues and bring something back
1:43:56 that has gotten a second look so just a
1:43:59 different perspective on how to move it
1:44:01 and move it forward faster okay so thank
1:44:05 you for that ad hocs can also consist of
1:44:07 - they don't have to be three but two or
1:44:10 three on an ad hoc would be great so I
1:44:12 have four options on here now how would
1:44:15 you like to proceed as a body on
1:44:16 deciding which option you're gonna go
1:44:18 with it's not realistic option five
1:44:21 committee of two so we could talk about
1:44:29 these winter night is there any support
1:44:31 in taking a vote on this this evening
1:44:34 this one looks like so I heard at least
1:44:38 one or two council members talk against
1:44:40 doing a retreat I've heard support for
1:44:44 either a work session with all seven or
1:44:46 some sort of ad hoc with two or three
1:44:47 people ad hoc that's the way you want to
1:44:50 go here were three people hasn't even
1:44:57 talked I had talked earlier but I when
1:45:01 you mention those four I would suggest
1:45:03 that of those either I you know I said a
1:45:06 retreat
1:45:07 I am also sensitive to the fact that
1:45:10 people have a hard time sometimes
1:45:12 scheduling retreat so I I would be okay
1:45:15 with the work session so I sort of think
1:45:18 work session in ad hoc are probably the
1:45:20 two options and my suggestion would be
1:45:22 that we just decide between those two
1:45:23 options unless somebody feels strongly
1:45:25 about one of the others that's more of a
1:45:27 Goodman
1:45:28 I think mentioned I think at first
1:45:31 mention of ad hoc it sounds like a great
1:45:33 idea am i concerned about it the ad hoc
1:45:35 is I I would want to hear those
1:45:38 discussions so council member winter
1:45:42 stein you know how to question about the
1:45:44 process a specific process that we have
1:45:48 been following it is now it's been
1:45:50 proposed in the manual and if there's an
1:45:52 ad hoc that discussion takes place and
1:45:56 it's just gonna have to take place again
1:45:58 at the full council because I I mean I
1:46:00 won't hear that discussion and if Paul's
1:46:02 not in that committee he's gonna want to
1:46:03 hear that too
1:46:04 so I would prefer work session any other
1:46:09 thoughts on ad-hoc work session right I
1:46:12 would prefer a work session where were
1:46:18 the council like to go I can't remember
1:46:20 hon just have a thought so as we proceed
1:46:23 to moving things more to work sessions I
1:46:26 imagine this question of ad-hoc versus
1:46:28 work session will come up more because
1:46:30 we'll be having more items going and so
1:46:34 I just wonder about about this specific
1:46:38 concern that that has been raised about
1:46:41 how the other council members get the
1:46:43 information from the ad hoc and if we
1:46:45 can consider what what we can do in
1:46:48 terms of providing some sort of record
1:46:51 for the other council members because I
1:46:53 I imagine that this will come up more
1:46:55 and more as we move more towards work
1:46:57 sessions mm-hmm I think when two things
1:47:00 were struggling right now is we're that
1:47:01 happy places where you send a detailed
1:47:04 issue off to ad hoc or it's a
1:47:06 conversation in all seven want to have
1:47:07 and not having you repeat ad hoc
1:47:10 conversations again in council though
1:47:13 yeah so for tonight though these are
1:47:17 your rules so we will go with what you
1:47:20 want to do if the majority feels that
1:47:23 but on the items that Paul brought up
1:47:26 and Mariah and Vicki brought up are best
1:47:28 discussed in a group of seven then it
1:47:29 should be a work session and we will
1:47:32 just find another night a question would
1:47:34 it be possible to have a recording of an
1:47:36 ad hoc facilities no which would be a
1:47:42 good record so I think considering there
1:47:45 it well there is a time issue of this in
1:47:49 getting it done it sounds like we have
1:47:53 enough time to find a time that works
1:47:56 for everybody to do a work session so I
1:47:59 think I would be supportive of that idea
1:48:01 there an additional work session not
1:48:03 adding to one of your big meaty wins
1:48:04 already on a weeknight with all seven of
1:48:07 you on camera and you could use your cow
1:48:09 time in July you use the your committee
1:48:13 of the whole okay it's an opportune
1:48:16 can we sit down there and they sit there
1:48:17 not up here yeah how does that sound we
1:48:24 can actually just go tonight with the
1:48:26 committee of the whole date as your
1:48:28 rules discussion if you want to have it
1:48:31 in a head nod what's the date day July
1:48:35 23rd it isn't yeah
1:48:39 state administrator moon wants to add
1:48:40 something just when I share that if we
1:48:44 suspend this conversation until late
1:48:47 July I would anticipate that staff would
1:48:50 also be bringing to you at that same
1:48:52 time the language concerning study
1:48:54 session at that point then will sort of
1:48:57 render a little moot if you still want
1:48:59 to stay on that path those two sections
1:49:01 the deal with the work session and the
1:49:06 committee of the whole
1:49:07 so my two suggestions would be either
1:49:12 you consider the rules of procedure with
1:49:16 the study session language included and
1:49:18 those other sections for work session
1:49:22 and the cow meeting removed at the end
1:49:26 of July or we try to find a different
1:49:30 time in June or later this month even
1:49:35 where you can discuss the rules of
1:49:38 procedure as they were drafted for this
1:49:40 evening
1:49:41 that's membrane against my word sting so
1:49:45 thinking this through a little bit if I
1:49:47 think about what's in the current rules
1:49:50 of procedure that we are considering
1:49:51 tonight most of it is a reiteration of
1:49:55 state law city ordinance and our current
1:49:58 processes there's just a few odds and
1:50:00 ends that are new ideas and none of them
1:50:03 are going to happen in the next couple
1:50:05 months so thinking about that and then
1:50:08 thinking about Administrator moons
1:50:09 comment maybe what we should be doing is
1:50:12 instead of adopting this now or even
1:50:14 considering this now is to go to a work
1:50:16 session with the rules of procedure that
1:50:18 include our new operating model and
1:50:21 method and just do it once and pick up
1:50:23 the open issues that we're seeing
1:50:27 that are coming to light this evening at
1:50:29 that time at the end at that same
1:50:31 instance address how we're going to do
1:50:33 the work-study model that timing would
1:50:36 be like I think our proposal is to
1:50:40 actually start giving you some
1:50:42 information in June so that we have a
1:50:44 little bit of time to gather some of
1:50:47 your input and hopefully arrive at a
1:50:50 draft that you have some knowledge of
1:50:54 can understand some of your questions
1:50:57 have been answered and that it looks
1:50:59 like that's going to be the successful
1:51:01 language you'll still have an
1:51:02 opportunity to consider it as
1:51:04 councilmember Rey has suggested along
1:51:07 with everything else that is here but
1:51:09 that late July timeframe would then
1:51:13 become a little bit more critical if we
1:51:15 were to start the study sessions in
1:51:18 August we would if we're not able to act
1:51:22 or the end of July or very beginning of
1:51:25 August and we may have to end up
1:51:27 delaying that ultimately transplanting
1:51:30 that a little bit more I know you
1:51:31 explained it to me that it's our tina
1:51:33 did that it's in the code how we do it
1:51:35 and so we have to make those changes
1:51:37 before we move into it correct by
1:51:40 ordinance correct our Municipal Code
1:51:43 right now spells out the procedure for a
1:51:48 work session and the committee of the
1:51:50 whole we would want to add new language
1:51:53 with regard to study sessions and make
1:51:55 it clear that that's the format that
1:51:57 were we're using okay so it is confusing
1:52:01 I mean it's confusing for you it's
1:52:03 probably enormous ly confusing for the
1:52:04 public but this first exercise is really
1:52:07 taking our old handbook and coming up
1:52:09 with something that's more compact the
1:52:10 second one is we're in the middle of a
1:52:12 transition of trying out moving from
1:52:14 committee that piece of committee and
1:52:17 Cal moving to study session requires a
1:52:20 code change that you have to pass before
1:52:22 you can actually do it so that way if we
1:52:24 get hung up in July or August with this
1:52:27 it also means we will not move to the
1:52:29 new structure until we pass the
1:52:30 ordinance I think we can get through it
1:52:35 I'm optimistic
1:52:37 I can sum every cancer present mert a
1:52:39 little bit off-topic because because
1:52:41 we're talking about the new structure my
1:52:44 recollection coming out of our retreats
1:52:45 is we said we were going to trial the
1:52:47 new structure and then evaluate it and
1:52:49 then make a determination if that's what
1:52:50 we wanted to do so what we're saying is
1:52:52 we have to adopt new ordinance is a new
1:52:55 code to implement the new structure
1:52:58 trial it if we don't like it then we
1:53:01 have to and go back to proven ordinance
1:53:04 and you'll have to approve a different
1:53:06 ordinance if you want to go back yes
1:53:08 okay I just want to make sure I was good
1:53:11 question that's what President marks I
1:53:13 just want to ask in addition to
1:53:15 everything else of trying to get stuff
1:53:17 done I I believe that July 23rd meeting
1:53:19 might be City Administrator moons Last
1:53:21 House Council meeting so with the timing
1:53:24 of this have anything have any impact on
1:53:28 that have any timing issues with this oh
1:53:31 I will be here for the first meeting in
1:53:33 the August as well okay so remember
1:53:38 we're interesting thank you for that
1:53:40 additional information I think it would
1:53:42 be wise to to immediately impanel an ad
1:53:45 hoc committee to work toward making the
1:53:47 best possible use of our touch in July I
1:53:51 think there's some lifting that can be
1:53:53 done and things clarified and without
1:53:57 compromising the conversation about
1:53:59 certain critical items that we still
1:54:00 want to have in front of them with
1:54:02 everybody I would be open to that we
1:54:04 take an informal vote on that can we do
1:54:05 a thumbs up for work session first and
1:54:07 then a thumbs up for ad hoc is they
1:54:09 really need to know what the seven of
1:54:11 you think I was actually advocating for
1:54:13 both with an ad hoc first bleeding small
1:54:17 group leading into a work session right
1:54:19 okay lots
1:54:25 if somebody wants to do the work or you
1:54:28 know do some of the work ahead of time
1:54:31 in order to have potentially a more
1:54:33 efficient work session work session I
1:54:36 think that's fantastic
1:54:38 that's for mothers I think one of the
1:54:45 questions earlier was can we record or
1:54:48 otherwise ad hoc and the why not since
1:54:53 we can with three-person committees
1:54:55 right I just think that ad hoc has
1:54:58 different rules of governance in terms
1:55:01 of record-keeping and public noticing
1:55:08 etc etc so if you televise a record one
1:55:12 out hoc then you need to do all of them
1:55:14 or it would be my concern it was
1:55:15 established that expectation so that
1:55:19 would be an additional question when
1:55:21 we're doing our we would see it as a
1:55:24 internal meeting that we would not apply
1:55:28 OPM a restrictions to and nor would we
1:55:31 want to set the president's for for that
1:55:34 for ad hocs
1:55:35 sure Mike my comment was that I don't
1:55:37 know the answer to this and so maybe
1:55:39 it's not even possible is that when
1:55:41 Vicki Singh asked that question
1:55:44 it was the context was when we're when
1:55:47 we try out the work session model if we
1:55:51 if we have a need for more ad hocs
1:55:56 is there an is there an option for those
1:55:59 ad hoc committee meetings to be
1:56:02 televised because that's a way that
1:56:05 council members can get information if
1:56:08 they're not on that committee so it's a
1:56:10 question I don't know the answer if you
1:56:11 have to do all ad hocs the same way I
1:56:15 don't know I guess I'd wonder too if if
1:56:19 the point of having the ad hoc is to
1:56:22 have a discussion that all seven of you
1:56:24 can see maybe all seven of yata after
1:56:27 conversation to me the ad hoc sort of
1:56:30 makes sense when you have a thing like
1:56:33 the business visit B&O tox worked really
1:56:35 well that was
1:56:37 you know taxing conversation it had two
1:56:40 people on the ad-hoc committee it had
1:56:42 some non council members on the ad-hoc
1:56:44 committee and it just went down into all
1:56:47 the tax scenarios and not all of that
1:56:50 was presented back to Council I think
1:56:51 when you feel like you need to see all
1:56:53 of it I'm not sure what my good ad huh
1:56:56 that's not present much I like Paul
1:57:01 suggestion I think the spirit of it is
1:57:03 just that if we already know that
1:57:05 there's going to be a lot of work on
1:57:07 July 23rd the three two or three or have
1:57:11 been less than four people are willing
1:57:13 to get together and take some afternoons
1:57:15 and try to hit this a little bit and
1:57:17 make it such that when we get to the
1:57:20 23rd it's in anyway more ready for the
1:57:23 seven to look at then I like that idea
1:57:25 and I personally I'm fine with if I get
1:57:29 if I get to hear a presentation from the
1:57:31 city twice then that's twice as nice
1:57:36 okay where are we going we want an ad
1:57:43 hoc prior to a work session in June and
1:57:46 do we have volunteers for the ad hoc
1:57:49 council member a council member head not
1:57:51 falling volunteer through yet I was just
1:57:56 going to endorse the notion of having an
1:58:00 ad hoc to do the early analysis of both
1:58:06 the current rules of procedure and then
1:58:09 the new ideas as they start to
1:58:11 crystallize by the administration and
1:58:13 then bring that forward to a committee
1:58:18 work session in the end of July and that
1:58:21 we don't take action on these rules
1:58:23 until such time as we have all of them
1:58:26 in place and we just do it once so I'm
1:58:30 not seeing a lot of disagreement with
1:58:33 who would like to be sitting on the ad
1:58:35 hoc I'm just saying you did put your
1:58:38 hand up oh gosh okay big surprise
1:58:42 yes so it's gonna be between you two
1:58:45 councilmember Hank counts my murder
1:58:46 Stein and then I have ray and Marta did
1:58:52 you have your hand up they did okay then
1:58:54 fine okay so just to make sure I want
1:58:59 Tina to get a chance to ask questions to
1:59:01 make sure she understands the dates the
1:59:03 expectations and all of that you had
1:59:05 another question I just had a comment on
1:59:08 the value of recording so I think I
1:59:10 think firstly that there is value i
1:59:13 watch other committee meetings for
1:59:15 example so there's a different sort of
1:59:17 value for people I think watching the
1:59:20 meetings than necessarily for all seven
1:59:23 in the conversation together so I am
1:59:27 interested in how we best can
1:59:28 communicate the information from the ad
1:59:30 hocs specifically because we're or
1:59:32 especially because we're going to be
1:59:34 doing more ad hoc so we're going to need
1:59:36 to have those conversations that
1:59:39 information conveyed to the larger body
1:59:41 efficiently more often than than in our
1:59:44 current structure and then also their
1:59:47 recordings are I think also useful for
1:59:49 the public and for transparency so to
1:59:51 the extent that we can do that I think
1:59:54 it's important and again moving more to
1:59:57 ad hoc I think the extent that we can
2:00:00 convey not only amongst ourselves but to
2:00:02 the public what we're talking about it's
2:00:04 just that much more important mm-hm
2:00:07 okay and Tina did you have any questions
2:00:09 on what you've heard in terms of timing
2:00:13 expectations I think the clerk's office
2:00:16 would like to move quickly with with ad
2:00:20 hoc group and scheduling some dates and
2:00:23 times at work and in a couple of weeks
2:00:25 in the ad hoc I think we would track the
2:00:30 document through red line version and
2:00:33 add comments to help convey our progress
2:00:39 be great yeah anything else
2:00:44 since this had emotion with the original
2:00:49 a be tisha what would the process be
2:00:51 this evening it would really appreciate
2:00:54 if someone would make a motion to the
2:00:56 effect of yeah discussion you just had
2:00:59 about forming an ad-hoc group to further
2:01:01 discuss the rules and lists those who
2:01:04 would be appointed to the committee that
2:01:06 sound great somebody want to make that
2:01:09 off the top of their head or take a I
2:01:13 will take a stab at it I would move that
2:01:16 the city create an ad hoc committee to
2:01:23 review the document to rules and
2:01:28 procedures document comprised of council
2:01:31 members hunt ray and winter Stein and
2:01:35 that they report no later than July 23rd
2:01:41 when we take up this bill this agenda
2:01:46 bill again all right July 23rd prior to
2:01:50 July 20 thing he's a second okay okay it
2:01:53 was made to create an ad hoc committee
2:01:55 to review the route council rules and
2:01:57 rules of procedure with council members
2:02:02 winter Stein hunt and Ray reporting back
2:02:05 to the full council prior to July was
2:02:08 the date July 23rd 23rd when and and
2:02:11 that the council take up this agenda
2:02:14 bill again on the 23rd okay Dwight okay
2:02:20 sitter it on July 23rd maybe on tonight
2:02:25 or anything okay I can read it one more
2:02:29 time unless it's clear all those in
2:02:32 favor say aye opposed motion carries
2:02:36 unanimously
2:02:38 next item under business evening is good
2:02:41 if the order do council members anything
2:02:43 council member winter Stein
2:02:46 she was here earlier this evening and
2:02:49 left last meeting I made a math mistake
2:02:52 and I had someone in the audience step
2:02:54 forward and correct me and I wanted to
2:02:56 give Susan Forbes credit for that and
2:02:59 one fifth of of 1% of 250 is five
2:03:05 dollars not $50.00 so thanks for the
2:03:07 correction Susan so anything else for
2:03:10 good of the order I have some
2:03:14 information on SEP come upcoming council
2:03:16 meetings
2:03:17 June 3rd regular council meeting 7 p.m.
2:03:19 and council chain chambers the potential
2:03:21 agenda items are a Hall of Fame
2:03:24 recognition and reception the Hall of
2:03:28 Fame recognition at the council meeting
2:03:29 and a reception that will be held in
2:03:31 chambers Lobby at 6:30 p.m. will have an
2:03:34 end of legislative session report and a
2:03:38 public hearing on the polygon Northwest
2:03:40 affordable housing development agreement
2:03:42 amendments June 10th council work
2:03:45 session scheduled for 6:30 p.m. in
2:03:47 chambers the potential agenda items are
2:03:50 branding and wayfinding the regional
2:03:53 agenda and the 2220 2020 to 2025 capital
2:03:58 improvement plan and the City Hall
2:04:00 facilities long-range planning anything
2:04:03 else there will be no executive session
2:04:07 this evening and we are adjourned at

Attendance

Council / Members (7)
Mariah Bettise
Stacy Goodman
Victoria Hunt
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Lindsey Walsh
Paul Winterstein

Motions and votes (2)

That an ad hoc committee be created to review the City Council Rules of Procedure (AB 7287) comprised of Councilmembers Hunt, Reh and Winterstein reporting to the full Council prior to July 23, 2019 with AB 7287 returning to the full Council at the July 23 COW. .
Moved by MARTS · seconded by REH
Carried 7-0
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein
APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. a) ID 0366 - Accounts: Payables and Payroll of May 20, 2019, $6,132,839.27; Approved. b) Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, May 6, 2019; Approved. c) Minutes: Council Committee Work Session, May 13, 2019; Approved. d) AB 7678 - 4Culture King County Sustai…
Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE
Carried 7-0
In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein