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Wednesday, May 24, 2023

6:00 PM · 1h 55m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Chair and Vice-Chair Nominations & Elections (A) 3/10
Transit Study Gaps Analysis ID 1353 1/2
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of April 26, 2023
packet pp.3–5
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 04-26-23 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. April 26, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Chair and Vice-Chair Nominations & Elections (A) [10 Min]
John Larson-Friend, Transportation Program Coordinator · packet pp.7–135
Staff report:
The Administration seeks feedback on the Transit Study’s future conditions gaps analysis. Feedback will inform the final draft of the Transit Study’s future conditions deliverable.
4b
Transit Study Gaps Analysis
Discussion · [1 Hour] Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.137–155
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
• Introduce the Metro Flex program • Overview of the Neighborhood Transit Survey Results
4c
Metro Flex Introduction
Information · [20 Min] John Larson-Friend, Transportation Program Coordinator Brian Henry, King County Metro
Topics: Transportation
5. REPORTS
5a
Board Work Plan
packet pp.157
Staff report:
Items Mar Apr May Jun Jul August Transit Study Light Rail Transit Plan Update Future Planning Conditions Capital Improvement Criteria Projects Plan (CIP) TBD Metro Flex Proposal Proposal
5b
Staff Report
5c
Chair Report
5d
Youth Report
0:02 boxes
0:10 that recording has started
0:15 well uh seeing as there is no chair of
0:18 Vice chair since this is election day I
0:21 get to bring
0:22 the call to order
0:25 calling this uh tab meeting
0:28 on May 24th 2023 to order
0:37 we announced that there is a quorum
0:39 present
0:43 Julian online
0:47 uh right now we have a few absences
0:51 we have Jerry Bernstein who's excused
0:55 I'm here Dave Wagner here uh who's
0:58 excused
1:00 we also have
1:02 our newest edition of our current
1:05 alternate Amy Glide
1:07 will be what's going to be filling in
1:09 for our 27 2027 vacancy
1:13 we had and then dropped out this week so
1:16 you were going to fill in for him
1:17 anyways so
1:25 yeah
1:27 so Cynthia are you here here baby
1:33 Erica
1:35 Tom last but not least Julian
1:42 okay
1:44 uh first
1:47 get the approval of the minutes of April
1:50 26 2023
1:52 I believe I get to do it all in favor is
1:55 that how that works there's a couple
1:57 ways to do it but that's one valid way
1:58 to do it okay uh all in favor of
2:01 improving the minutes for April 26th I
2:04 guess yeah so technically I someone has
2:07 to make a motion oh okay and you could
2:09 say I would entertainment I would
2:10 entertain emotion yeah
2:12 against
2:22 great not so approved
2:24 uh moving into the public comment period
2:27 seeing as there is no member of the
2:29 public here or online
2:35 and we can move on to regular business
2:37 first of which is the chair and vice
2:39 chair nomination and election process or
2:42 2023 2024.
2:45 um so the way this works is I as a staff
2:49 member
2:50 that liaison
2:52 little first call for nominations
2:55 but I when all nominations have been
2:57 made I will close applications
2:59 if only one nomination is made the
3:01 member is considered elected to position
3:03 by unanimous consent they have multiple
3:05 nominations are made or members and
3:07 provide an opportunity to discuss the
3:09 nominees I will then ask board members
3:11 to cast votes on the nominees they are
3:14 nominated by a roll call vote
3:16 board members may vote only for one
3:18 nominee per office and may vote for
3:20 themselves
3:21 first board member receiving majority
3:23 voters clearing chair and we'll do the
3:25 same thing for vice chair
3:28 are there any nominations for chair
3:35 and nominated
3:39 a couple years but
3:41 I appreciated that you seem to consider
3:44 everyone's opinion
3:46 and try and keep us on time and on topic
3:51 really especially on that first point I
3:54 would actually make sure we come back to
3:56 people check in with everyone
3:59 all right I got the role
4:01 of a chair and
4:03 a Bart I think that's the most important
4:06 thank you
4:09 are there any other nominations
4:17 none the nominations are closed uh
4:21 Cynthia you've been elected the chair
4:23 through
4:27 24 up until the May 24th
4:30 congratulations congratulations
4:33 I make a super brief comment thank you I
4:36 appreciate that I'm very happy to serve
4:38 another year there's a transition this
4:41 year with our very capable staffs still
4:43 being relatively new in these roles so
4:46 I'm very happy to do this I do think
4:47 that rotation of leadership is important
4:49 so we do want to encourage
4:52 um people to be thinking about who would
4:54 maybe want to be chair a year from now
4:56 because I think it'll be just
4:58 appropriate for me to let somebody else
5:00 do that
5:02 and thank you
5:05 great all right let's move on to Vice
5:08 chair are there any nominations for vice
5:10 chair
5:14 I'd like to nominate Julian
5:19 are there any other nominations
5:25 uh Julian online
5:28 uh you've been elected vice chair
5:30 through up until the May tab in 1224.
5:34 congratulations
5:36 thank you thanks for uh nominating and
5:39 for another term
5:43 great
5:45 thank you
5:47 well we are can I just say something
5:49 sorry it was nice of you to say why you
5:51 know I just want to say that I think
5:52 Julian I make a really good team these
5:55 tastes really on top of all the business
5:56 of the city
5:58 um I am very kind of organizationally
6:01 oriented and uh I think that we make a
6:05 really good team
6:06 um and he has always a lot of good
6:08 thoughts and um people don't always see
6:10 what the vice chair is doing but we talk
6:12 you know between meetings and noises a
6:15 lot what to add and um so thank you
6:18 Julian I think we make a great team and
6:20 I'm happy to do it uh with you for
6:21 another year
6:24 thanks
6:27 uh well I can let you take over please
6:30 chair yay now I'm chair uh right up I
6:34 get to do the important job of
6:35 introducing item four eight uh no I'm
6:38 sorry I'm four beat which is the transit
6:41 study uh and we have Thomas online I
6:45 believe
6:46 so I will turn it over to you Thomas I
6:49 don't have any introductory comments
6:51 um unless anyone else wanted to say
6:54 anything before we turn over to Thomas I
6:55 have no questions
6:58 the first time I've met Annie oh I don't
7:01 know I don't know I heard me with this
7:04 here first meeting and maybe an
7:05 introduction around so good to know
7:09 I need a little bit of background just a
7:12 brief intro I think it's a grand idea so
7:15 Thomas maybe hold on one sec and I don't
7:17 know what the proper uh way to do that
7:19 is but um I think it's a great idea and
7:22 I think we should just wing it for a
7:23 second
7:24 um if that's okay
7:25 only one new member to the board we did
7:28 have another
7:30 um but he declined and uh at the this
7:34 week I believe unfortunately
7:39 unfortunately
7:42 um and we didn't have a youth applicant
7:46 so even though we had an alternate in
7:49 handy we didn't have a you couldn't fill
7:50 that with anyone but a youth it's not
7:52 it's not could be it's Shelby under
7:56 certain age it's actually fairly clearly
7:57 defined so um anyway
8:00 um maybe Tommy gets to start with you
8:01 and just say um how long you've been
8:04 serving and introduce yourself and maybe
8:06 say 10 seconds about why
8:09 do you like starting on this floor or
8:11 your relationship to Issaquah maybe okay
8:13 uh well I've been a president I'm Tommy
8:16 McDonald
8:16 been a president of this class since
8:18 192.
8:19 you know the transportation
8:27 I think 2017 right
8:30 so and uh my background is uh I'm
8:33 Transportation engineer
8:36 engineering public agencies lastly sell
8:39 Transit
8:41 and look here in stock Mountain
8:45 it's raised here at bike my scooter
8:49 and bus to work on a very engaged
8:53 backlog codes and infrastructure with
8:56 the city and
8:57 that to provide some type of society but
9:00 I think
9:03 questions
9:06 and Erica I've been on absence
9:10 not totally sure that was summer and
9:13 fall but we're all personal back then so
9:16 I've lived in Issaquah since 2020 but
9:19 I've worked for uh state representatives
9:23 and then
9:26 some potassium for the next since 2019
9:31 um and so I
9:36 Vice chair of the transportation
9:38 committee he's still on it and so that
9:40 kind of sparked my interest in this I
9:43 try and bring a perspective of knowing
9:45 what's going on level I work for a
9:48 different state representative Lisa
9:49 calendar and the other CEO she's not on
9:52 Transportation
9:53 but I sort of connected to this
9:55 I live in the highlands
9:58 but we have our own challenges
10:01 about the area that I live in so
10:05 um yeah oh I grew up north Bellingham
10:08 really low area it is
10:12 and so
10:20 I'm Mike is true I uh the engineering
10:24 manager at Boeing
10:27 another company
10:29 as I joined
10:31 two years ago two and a half years ago
10:34 something like that something kind of
10:37 well we're still meeting virtually then
10:40 so it was during solo kovitish times
10:46 um I think uh for me what I bring to the
10:50 board is I
10:51 I like to at least think I try and
10:54 be the
10:55 voice that question this is needed
10:58 um I think a lot of people on the board
10:59 are big bicyclists which is awesome but
11:05 I uh don't do too well on a bike so I
11:08 try and make sure I'm here representing
11:10 uh you know the primary mode of
11:12 transportation at least as of today and
11:15 then
11:19 I'm padding my class uh
11:22 um I'm a civil engineer with the 20
11:25 years old experience
11:28 um I was born and lived in Egypt and I
11:31 have I had my old professional life in
11:34 the Middle East between Dubai and the
11:37 park worked on some major projects there
11:40 in construction
11:42 and then decided to move my family a few
11:46 months ago to Seattle
11:50 um so I live in the Thailand
11:52 I have a son who's in high school and a
11:56 daughter who's in elementary school
11:58 and I'm in love with Issaquah I feel I
12:02 have I can be beneficial to the
12:04 community so I decided to
12:07 be helpful
12:08 yeah
12:11 uh so we met
12:13 um before and um I'm Cynthia Cress and
12:16 uh I'm now in the chair
12:19 um and I have been living in Issaquah
12:21 for eight years but I lived in the
12:22 surrounding area for the 20 years before
12:24 that before we were unincorporated
12:26 Issaquah and then became Sammamish um
12:29 and I have not practiced in the field uh
12:33 professionally in in transportation but
12:35 I do have a master of urban planning
12:36 with an emphasis on Transportation
12:38 infrastructure and
12:40 get the third thing is the emphasis but
12:42 transportation and infrastructure and
12:44 yeah land use
12:46 um and I've been on the board with Tom
12:48 since it started
12:50 we're really glad to have you here thank
12:52 you um thank you Tom for suggesting that
12:54 I it does feel a little weird that
12:56 there's not an intro part of this that's
12:58 formal oh sorry Julian and I'm sorry
13:00 people can need to help me I always
13:01 forget the online people
13:03 why don't you go ahead and introduce
13:04 yourself to Julian
13:06 sure sure uh Julia midlow um I've been
13:10 on the transportation Advisory Board
13:12 since 2021 and I became vice chair uh
13:16 last year and just now reappointed
13:19 obviously
13:20 um really I've been passionate about
13:22 transportation for a while and it's a
13:26 conjunction with housing particularly
13:28 since I'm an avid you know a really
13:31 active cyclist in the area and enjoy
13:33 taking Transit all around the region for
13:37 various responsibilities and so that's
13:40 kind of what I like to bring to the tab
13:43 just that live the experience of being a
13:47 consistent Transit and cyclist
13:51 thank you
13:56 okay with that
13:59 I think we will go ahead and move along
14:02 um I appreciate that that's good also
14:04 learned a few things that I didn't know
14:06 um I didn't know you from rural
14:08 Bellingham
14:10 oh yeah I know where London is yeah
14:13 yeah there are
14:16 things
14:18 um okay Thomas are you ready
14:23 we cannot hear you I am ready thank you
14:27 uh and yeah congrats to the new chair
14:30 Vice chair and the new member um thanks
14:33 for being here today
14:34 uh so yeah my name is Thomas valdres I'm
14:37 the city's senior Transportation planner
14:41 and tonight I am excited to uh receive
14:45 your feedback on the transit studies
14:47 gaps analysis and so be uh to begin I'll
14:51 just briefly provide some background
14:53 information uh on the existing Transit
14:56 network uh what it looks like today uh
14:58 what we can reasonably expect in the
15:00 future
15:01 and then I'll walk through some of the
15:04 deficiencies that we've identified as
15:07 part of our analysis
15:08 and uh we'll go ahead and ask for your
15:11 feedback
15:13 um as we go through that
15:17 so uh jumping right in here uh in the
15:21 packet you can see there's several
15:23 attachments so I might reference a
15:25 couple of these as we go through but I
15:28 just wanted to provide a little bit of
15:30 background on the existing conditions
15:33 analysis that was done for this Transit
15:35 study
15:37 uh and so
15:39 essentially some of the I'll just sort
15:41 of walk through some of the key
15:42 takeaways from that um in the next
15:43 couple slides here
15:46 but so one of the existing uh conditions
15:49 analyzes that we saw and this is not
15:52 super groundbreaking or anything but
15:55 you know we we see that uh
15:58 the typical
15:59 commuter is uh you know they drive alone
16:03 to work so you can see the bar chart
16:06 here driving alone is the the typical
16:08 commuter
16:10 uh that being said there's also a fair
16:13 amount of folks who work from home uh
16:16 it's actually higher than I anticipated
16:19 beyond that uh there's actually a lot of
16:22 folks who are getting to work
16:25 by other means uh that we kind of call
16:29 alternative transportation modes if you
16:31 will so taking Transit carpooling and
16:34 walking are some of the higher ones but
16:37 as you can sort of see from this chart
16:40 there's a decent amount of people who uh
16:42 are taking Transit are getting to work
16:45 via other modes there's also a lot of
16:47 folks who are working from home so we
16:49 have a pretty good mix of um how people
16:52 are getting around in the area commuting
16:55 trips tend to be the most uh
16:57 the highest frequency of types of trips
17:00 on any given day so that's sort of uh
17:02 why I was showing you this graph
17:07 uh talking a little bit about the
17:09 transit Network I'm just sort of laying
17:10 more foundation for our discussion today
17:13 uh the existing Transit Network that we
17:16 have today we have nine routes that
17:19 serve Issaquah three of them the uh the
17:22 269 the 271 and the 554 these all run
17:27 all day providing frequent service
17:30 meaning the buses come every 30 minutes
17:33 or so
17:34 uh we have five routes that only run on
17:38 weekdays during the peak commute hour
17:41 and we have one route which is the 208
17:44 and that runs all day but headways are
17:46 about two hours that one goes out to
17:48 like North Bend
17:50 um so these are some of the services
17:51 that are provided in addition there's
17:53 also the trailhead connect which is
17:56 um you know operates seasonally on
17:58 weekends takes you to some hiking trails
18:00 there's also Paratransit and specialized
18:04 transportation services that are offered
18:05 by some providers in the area
18:10 uh more sort of foundational information
18:13 another Insight that we gathered from
18:15 our analysis is related to Transit
18:18 access so this chart here and this map
18:21 sort of talk about uh what I'm about to
18:24 explain
18:25 and so just to provide a little bit of
18:27 background uh
18:29 several studies in the last 40 years
18:31 have identified that
18:33 Transit Riders are typically willing to
18:36 walk about a quarter mile to access a
18:38 bus stop or about a half mile to access
18:41 high quality transit services like Light
18:43 Rail and like bus rapid transit
18:47 as we sort of think about willingness to
18:50 bike to Transit
18:52 that distance is about a mile so people
18:55 are willing to bike about a mile to get
18:57 to Transit and drivers are willing to
19:00 drive about two and a half miles
19:02 to axis Transit so keeping this in mind
19:07 these distances can be used sort of as
19:10 proxies for measuring accessibility to
19:12 Transit these are well established
19:16 numbers that are used by Transportation
19:19 planners by academics by Traffic
19:22 Engineers these are uh
19:24 sort of the the gold standard if you
19:26 will of like how how accessibility is uh
19:30 considered uh in in one metric
19:32 um so using these as a proxy we can see
19:35 in this chart here about 17
19:38 of households are within walking
19:41 distance
19:43 of Transit
19:44 and that's currently uh in about 19 of
19:48 jobs are within walking distance of
19:51 Transit
19:56 uh other things just to again provide
19:59 more foundational information as we
20:02 consider uh where people are going
20:04 currently uh we found that over 50
20:08 percent of trips in Issaquah are within
20:12 the city so Intercity trips
20:15 um after that it's primarily other East
20:18 Side cities like Bellevue and then
20:21 Northern East Side cities such as
20:23 Sammamish Redmond et cetera so uh big
20:27 picture uh most of the trips are
20:29 happening within Issaquah and then many
20:31 trips are happening on the east side and
20:34 then less of a percentage is happening
20:36 out outside of that but that's sort of
20:37 the the big takeaway
20:41 when considering public transit
20:45 currently public transit can take
20:48 significantly longer than driving
20:50 um it's sort of I think kind of a truism
20:53 here but just wanted to
20:55 reaffirm this for everybody
20:57 um public taking public transit can take
20:59 significantly longer than driving
21:00 however and you can sort of see this in
21:04 this chart so it's like the lighter
21:06 yellow
21:07 uh there are certain destinations where
21:10 taking Transit actually is pretty
21:12 competitive with driving so that's
21:14 something that's pretty exciting to see
21:16 here
21:16 awesome
21:18 you have one question sure thing on the
21:21 total trips that are taken within
21:25 the bus trips between and outside cities
21:28 does that also include the morning
21:30 weekday commutes to Belgium Seattle
21:34 uh correct yeah and so the the trips
21:36 that I was referring to are more like
21:38 outside of uh bus trips is just
21:40 everywhere
21:41 um where everybody is going
21:43 um Origins and destinations within
21:45 Issaquah or from other places like where
21:48 they're coming from to get to to work in
21:51 the morning yeah
21:54 thanks great
21:57 any other questions
22:02 great okay
22:05 yep so uh just to reiterate uh you know
22:08 taking public transit can take
22:09 significantly longer than driving
22:11 however we do see that uh taking the bus
22:15 in certain destinations in Esquire is
22:18 actually very competitive with driving
22:19 so that's that's good to see that's what
22:21 we want to see
22:23 um with Transit Service uh
22:27 and so it's really about narrowing that
22:29 Gap to make sure that uh riding the bus
22:32 can actually be a viable option uh most
22:35 people aren't going to be super
22:37 interested in taking the bus if they
22:39 have other choices and if you know
22:42 driving is going to be significantly
22:44 faster so we just want to see
22:45 improvements in that area but it's good
22:48 to see that that is possible we are
22:50 seeing it and it's
22:52 it's reaffirming it's good
22:56 uh so as we sort of look towards the
22:58 future
23:00 the city is really anticipating most of
23:02 the growth to happening to be happening
23:04 in central Issaquah that's by 2050 we're
23:08 anticipating 78 of our growth in
23:12 households and 64 percent of our growth
23:14 in jobs to happen in one neighborhood
23:19 and again uh as we sort of looked
23:22 through the uh to see like the the
23:25 travel patterns uh we we also think that
23:30 um Intercity trips will be the majority
23:32 of trips just like it is today
23:34 um and again between Bellevue and East
23:37 Side cities we anticipate those will be
23:39 sort of the secondary and tertiary
23:43 majority of trips
23:47 uh so as we look in the next couple
23:51 months in this uh this is in your packet
23:54 there's there's more information
23:56 provided in there in the memo and that
23:58 the packet as well so as we look towards
24:01 the the near term uh on May 11th Metro
24:04 actually just announced uh that they'll
24:07 be cutting service
24:09 um to three of our nine routes in
24:11 Issaquah
24:12 and these roots are the 214 the 216 and
24:16 the 217.
24:19 and this was sort of late breaking as I
24:21 was writing this memo so
24:24 um uh you know feel free to ask
24:26 questions if I can if I can answer them
24:29 but essentially uh it was explained to
24:32 us that the the routes will be suspended
24:35 to ensure that um
24:38 that Metro can reliably deliver services
24:40 that have been impacted by labor
24:43 shortages and other staffing issues and
24:45 so uh you know on the as we look at it
24:48 sort of at a 50 000 foot level while we
24:51 don't want to see our services being cut
24:54 um the current ridership in isqua for
24:56 these specific routes is low and there
25:01 are still alternative transit services
25:03 provided so
25:05 there there's that these Cuts were
25:08 announced and uh since the announcement
25:11 Metro has been doing a pretty good job
25:13 uh communicating with City staff on
25:16 these changes and in order to sort of
25:19 help them
25:20 amplify their their voice make sure that
25:23 residents are communicated with any any
25:27 existing writers uh are what we'll know
25:30 about these these service changes
25:33 and so the city's Communications team
25:34 plans to work directly with Metro to
25:37 make sure that these upcoming changes uh
25:40 will be uh
25:42 will be communicated some of the things
25:44 that are planned to do they're going to
25:47 be hosting notices on the existing buses
25:51 on the the polls for the bus stops
25:57 there's also some other City
25:59 Communications channels that we'll be
26:01 using in the lead up and again I think
26:04 these these service changes are expected
26:06 to be like September I think it's
26:07 September 2nd
26:09 um so it's it's really kind of coming up
26:11 quick but uh the city will be uh doing
26:14 what we can to communicate that with
26:16 with writers
26:19 yeah sure
26:21 when uh Metro told the city about the
26:25 cuts did they give any details about
26:28 the demographics of I know ridership's
26:30 low but like who are those writers
26:33 currently like I'm just coming at this
26:35 from an equity angle like I guess who
26:38 who was losing out on those services
26:40 yeah unfortunately that's yeah great
26:42 question unfortunately that data was not
26:44 provided
26:45 um through the transit study that we've
26:48 been doing uh I think
26:51 we've identified that I think it's
26:54 of the three routes I think it's like
26:56 six seven and nine writers in a squad
26:59 per day I'm on each route so
27:01 um it is a small
27:04 number of folks who will be affected in
27:06 isqua but
27:08 to your point
27:09 um this route spans more than just
27:12 Issaquah so there's you know there's
27:13 other writers that are writing it um
27:17 and I think
27:18 John John showed the numbers to me uh
27:22 a couple weeks ago system-wide for each
27:25 route and I think it was like 400
27:26 writers on each um so it's it is a
27:29 significant change if we look regionally
27:33 um you know these these routes
27:36 they they connect from Seattle so
27:38 there's Seattle writers too that are
27:40 being affected it's it's not just
27:41 Issaquah being affected so
27:44 um it is super unfortunate like we
27:46 certainly don't want to see routes being
27:47 cut um we love our buses but again there
27:52 are uh parallel routes that are offered
27:55 so we do think that
27:57 um on the whole it
27:59 uh at least in the short term I think
28:02 we'll be fine uh and there are some
28:04 Alternatives being provided in the
28:07 interim question I think these are all
28:09 peak hour broth like the two of our team
28:11 which is the one I took into Seattle and
28:13 that was yep
28:14 basically the same route all the 214 was
28:17 a direct compared to Seattle with no
28:19 stops
28:20 recovered it was packed and you must go
28:22 ahead
28:26 kind of supplement
28:28 I think part of your question too is it
28:30 was pretty much
28:32 the squad the Seattle and direct
28:37 14 and the 16 also on the 17 I'm not
28:41 sure that yeah
28:46 yeah Tom's definitely correct uh it is
28:48 peak hours so um it is you know only
28:51 offered uh during the commute times I
28:54 think AM and PM Community times
28:57 so yeah definitely unfortunate uh but we
29:00 I think
29:02 you know overall the the more uh
29:07 the the more Prime uh buses that are
29:10 offered all day those are still being
29:12 provided so if we sort of look at it in
29:15 that way I think we're still okay but
29:17 certainly don't want to see cut uh cuts
29:20 to our bus system
29:26 any other comments or should I keep
29:28 cruising through
29:31 carry on thank you okay great
29:36 um Okay so
29:37 and yeah just to sort of reiterate what
29:40 I was just
29:41 talking about
29:42 um so those the three routes that are
29:45 gonna
29:46 be going away in September
29:48 um those were actually already slated to
29:51 be Consolidated as part of Metro's new
29:54 Eastlink connections project
29:57 um and so this project uh it's it's
29:59 about implementing uh bus changes as
30:03 Light Rail comes to uh to connect
30:06 Redmond between Seattle and Redmond
30:09 so these these changes are essentially
30:12 coming earlier uh than than the light
30:16 rail coming
30:18 um but so I guess you know between light
30:21 rail coming in 2025 uh for Eastlink
30:25 connections uh there will be reduced
30:27 service but again these three routes
30:30 were expected to be Consolidated anyways
30:34 and yeah so in the in the interim uh
30:37 East link connections will be coming and
30:40 we hope to receive overall better
30:42 service there will be consolidations and
30:45 with those consolidations uh we're told
30:48 that the uh the span of day that the
30:51 time that buses are provided throughout
30:52 the day
30:54 will be a little bit longer for certain
30:56 buses the headways between buses will be
31:00 shorter so buses will be coming uh
31:02 sooner on many routes
31:05 and there'll be some adjustments to the
31:08 routing but overall we're uh we're very
31:10 pleased with Eastlink connections uh
31:13 we're we're expecting it to be better
31:16 service in the future
31:21 and as we look even further out towards
31:24 2041 uh 2044 somewhere around that time
31:28 period the plan is to bring Link light
31:31 rail to Issaquah with the four line the
31:34 South Kirkland is Quail line
31:37 and again this would connect Kirkland
31:40 Bellevue Issaquah it would also allow
31:43 for transfers to three stride bus Rapid
31:47 Transit lines and the two line that
31:50 connects Everett and Redmond
31:57 still providing a little bit more
31:58 foundational knowledge here for our
32:00 discussion today
32:02 and I do thank you for bearing with me
32:05 here uh so to support the future Transit
32:08 Network we are expecting that uh and
32:12 this sort of goes back and I'll click
32:14 through a couple slides uh sort of
32:17 looking at Central Issaquah this is
32:19 where we expect most of the growth
32:21 happening right
32:25 and so the expectation is that as
32:29 Central isqua grows as our community
32:31 grows between now and 2050
32:34 the expectation is that the majority of
32:38 residents and the majority of uh jobs uh
32:42 in his quad will be within walking
32:43 distance of Transit by 2050. so that's
32:45 very exciting to see
32:47 we also anticipate that the majority of
32:50 households and jobs will continue to be
32:53 within an adequate biking and driving
32:55 distance so there should be many ways to
32:59 get to Transit by 2050 so that's really
33:03 exciting to see
33:04 uh and yeah so that's sort of
33:07 foundational knowledge where we're at
33:09 now where we plan to be in the future
33:11 and now I'm going to talk about the gaps
33:13 that we've identified as we sort of
33:16 think about what the transit Network
33:18 could look like
33:22 so the first Gap that we see is for bus
33:26 stops and just to reiterate a previous
33:28 point
33:29 that I had made
33:32 um this so the city doesn't provide
33:33 Transit service that's through Metro and
33:37 Sound Transit but there are some things
33:40 that the city can do to improve Transit
33:42 service provided by our agency partners
33:45 and so one of the current gaps that
33:48 we've identified is really just related
33:50 to providing basic amenities at bus
33:53 stops
33:54 amenities are really making sure that uh
33:57 you know it's comfortable to wait for
33:59 your bus
34:00 um it's you know you feel uh you know
34:03 you're protected from the elements
34:04 there's a place to sit down if you uh if
34:08 you need that just basic things so that
34:12 it's it's comfortable and it's it's a
34:14 dignified way to sort of wait for your
34:17 bus
34:18 so that's one of the current gaps that
34:20 we've identified
34:22 um and to speak very generally on the
34:24 matter so these amenities are typically
34:27 provided by Metro
34:30 and Metro has justification criteria to
34:34 provide these amenities and the first
34:37 initial criteria and just I'll just sort
34:39 of talk about
34:40 um a Transit shelter for example so as
34:44 you can see here
34:46 this is
34:47 one of the bus stops that I actually
34:49 take in to get to work uh this is where
34:52 the 554 uh meets and um that is uh
34:58 there there's no there's no Transit
35:01 shelter even though this is a a
35:02 well-written
35:05 uh bus route so one of the uh the things
35:08 that Metro sees uh here is that yes like
35:12 this there's a lot of people that take
35:13 this bus however
35:15 um there's actually a huge backlog on
35:18 the amount of bus stops that uh would be
35:21 worthy of receiving a bus stop and so
35:24 Metro uses a criteria if there's at
35:26 least 25 Riders it is it is uh
35:30 it is basically a candidate
35:32 um to receive a bus shelter and so
35:35 system-wide there's about 375 bus stops
35:38 that qualify for a Metro provided bus
35:42 shelter
35:43 however Metro only has the funds to
35:46 provide about 25 shelters per year so do
35:50 the math it would take a long time to
35:53 serve every bus shelter that could be
35:56 worthy of receiving a bus
35:58 shelter
36:00 so in order to get
36:05 we have one question oh sure yeah do we
36:08 have any idea in Issaquah how many bus
36:12 stops are not sheltered and then of
36:14 those what are the portion that meet the
36:17 criteria but just
36:18 you know I've been prioritized enough
36:21 yeah you know Micah that's a great
36:23 question and uh we don't have that
36:25 information yet this is we're in the
36:27 super preliminary uh
36:29 understanding but that is something that
36:31 we would like to know yeah that's we
36:34 that is something that we will look into
36:36 definitely
36:40 any other questions
36:45 okay
36:47 and so yeah just like looking looking at
36:50 uh you know where uh you know Issaquah
36:56 it's expected that if we were to serve
36:58 uh all the bus stops that that
37:02 could definitely use a a shelter it
37:05 could take a while um some of the ways
37:07 that Metro prioritizes where bus stops
37:11 would receive a shelter include
37:13 demographics Equity access to community
37:17 services and other sorts of
37:18 considerations so uh that's just to say
37:22 there's a huge need for basic amenities
37:24 at bus stops throughout the region and
37:28 so one of the considerations that I am
37:30 posing to the tab is um
37:34 you know considering that uh at bus
37:38 stops uh there's so many needs from you
37:41 know a shelter to other things like
37:43 maybe lighting or like trash cans or
37:46 um maybe a place to sit uh should the
37:49 city consider alternative means of
37:51 providing bus stop amenities uh or what
37:55 I'll call local high priority stops so
37:58 whatever
37:59 whatever that means if if you know we
38:02 could develop some criteria if that
38:03 makes sense if Metro has determined that
38:07 improvements are not justifiable either
38:10 by ridership numbers or other other
38:13 conditions or if it's just a low
38:15 priority to Metro based on their
38:18 criteria so I'll pause here and maybe
38:22 receive your feedback on this question
38:27 so Thomas
38:28 um just to make sure I understand so now
38:30 you're asking for us to give feedback on
38:33 this particular issue
38:35 um you know I I was thinking you've
38:36 learned all through them and then we've
38:38 come back to them but now we're going to
38:39 do that now right I I can do either I
38:42 have I do have a slide at this
38:45 I didn't want to hold off
38:47 so it looks like Julian has his hand up
38:51 and um and I also have some questions
38:53 and Micah has a stand up so let's go
38:55 truly and then Micah
38:58 I mean um this is just gonna be a
39:00 comment on this
39:02 particularly policy question
39:05 um I think it's clear that if we have
39:07 more comfortable spaces for uh bus
39:10 riders especially that particular stop
39:12 on on Sunset um
39:15 you know if you're waiting for someone
39:17 to pick you up or something like that
39:19 you
39:20 creating more Comfort is obviously the
39:23 answer and so I think we should this
39:26 they should be considering these
39:27 alternative means of providing
39:29 additional amenities at these stops
39:32 um and then I would also add just in
39:35 general
39:37 just a closer it is to
39:41 hang on like Northwest Sammamish Road
39:43 for example those bus stops really do
39:46 not have any amenities but they also
39:48 don't know if I'm a tradership so yes we
39:50 can develop some criteria about it but I
39:52 do think that these local routes
39:55 um do need some more amenities
39:58 foreign
40:04 I think in general I think it seems like
40:08 a good idea to provide uh some way of
40:12 doing this eyewitnessly question Metro
40:14 on like their criteria for what's
40:16 justifiable I would look at just what
40:19 didn't mean to priority because
40:21 there's certainly good reason why they
40:24 made those decisions about justifiable
40:26 and also you know we you don't have
40:28 unlimited budget either
40:31 um and so you know I'd probably look at
40:34 um where you have high enough ridership
40:36 to make it worth it right you're not
40:37 gonna you know first build uh shelter
40:40 for you know the bus stop with only a
40:43 few people that take it
40:45 um and maybe even look at the frequency
40:46 and bus stops where you have a good
40:48 number of people on the lower frequency
40:50 of buses waiting longer
40:52 matter is more I also think this would
40:55 be a
40:56 amazing like community service thing to
40:59 do because it would also draw people to
41:02 be like oh there's a bus stop here
41:04 right there's this community event to go
41:06 build a shelter or something so
41:09 I don't know how the city would go about
41:11 organizing that maybe providing
41:14 um tools or or something to make it a
41:17 little easier for people to come and
41:18 help but I think that'd be a cool way to
41:20 handle that
41:24 go ahead no talking here and my question
41:30 the question is uh part of what we're
41:32 thinking about is is worth City funds to
41:34 build something where King County camp
41:36 with our funds to build shelters and
41:38 certain marriage that we have a high
41:41 uh return on investment for shelter but
41:43 that's going to serve a lot of people
41:45 that the question that we're asked
41:49 my dancer or say yes we do believe that
41:51 we should I'm not sure where I think
41:54 that's part of the question but I'm not
41:55 sure where we're supposed to provide
41:56 input as far as saying
42:00 yeah you provide funds for 10 afterward
42:03 for example
42:05 I think that we're being asked to
42:07 whether this is something that should be
42:09 considered
42:10 so we don't have all the trade-offs
42:13 right so it's is that maybe kind of what
42:16 you're wrestling with a little bit yeah
42:18 I think it's a King County Aunt within
42:21 their budget and their pace
42:23 or do we have shelters that we feel is
42:25 worth the city's investment to build
42:28 that there is more enhancements
42:31 a certain number of bus stops in the
42:33 city we can't do them all but we do
42:35 maybe the high priority once is that we
42:37 would say yes as we're as developing
42:39 criteria process for deciding which ones
42:42 to get a shelter and funding notes
42:46 if uh so I also say I guess broadly
42:49 gifts because it just seems odd to me
42:51 that's a yes or no question when I like
42:53 to put these criteria on it because why
42:55 if we're using City dollars to build out
42:58 shelters and
43:00 why I already would prefer those kind of
43:03 like Inner City trips that are happening
43:05 but I don't know if those are the ones
43:07 that I need I don't know if those aren't
43:08 have shelters built but you just see I
43:12 don't normally like this but it seems
43:13 you know if we're building a bus shelter
43:14 that's not Servicing folks
43:17 not calling Jessica home I'm like almost
43:20 less inclined to
43:23 um I guess yeah
43:33 and like we have bus stops that
43:37 the trash cans or shelters Etc to me
43:40 that should be like a criteria
43:46 so that's interesting so
43:49 um it sounds like what you're saying is
43:52 you would probably yes and you would
43:55 prioritize in trust City trips to take
43:58 care of our own yeah yeah
44:03 I I think I would agree but I put a
44:06 little bit a different spin on it I
44:07 would say prioritize in my opinion your
44:10 opinion my opinion prioritize uh where
44:15 residents of
44:17 Issaquah bus stops they use not just the
44:21 the ridership because
44:23 um if the bus stop you know it's like
44:25 the people that live here the ones that
44:27 are using the ones that go to Bellevue
44:29 right
44:30 I might prioritize that over if it turns
44:32 out that our the bus trips that are like
44:35 within the city are actually mostly
44:37 people are
44:38 you know I don't know coming here to go
44:41 to restaurants or something
44:43 I would just I think what you're saying
44:45 right it's it's you know if uh
44:48 is to go out and taxes are paying for it
44:50 right it shouldn't be prioritized
44:52 towards
44:53 president's physical whichever stops
44:56 served more as well exactly yeah
45:05 I've seen uh I've seen in different
45:08 parts of the world where they were
45:10 trying to fund the stations uh if we're
45:14 talking about the funding and they get
45:17 support of local businesses where they
45:21 announce their names
45:24 the stations by the name of the business
45:27 it's like a way to advertise it's a
45:31 mutual benefit so that that's very
45:34 common
45:35 you have the station in the name of a
45:37 certain business
45:38 or a certain company
45:41 to support the city funding
45:46 yeah
45:47 um so I wanted to
45:50 say a couple things answer the question
45:52 myself one is should the city consider
45:54 alternative means
45:56 consider for sure it seems like a good
45:59 idea I think we're all very interested
46:01 in kind of the next level which is what
46:03 would our criteria be and also what I
46:05 want to know a lot about before
46:06 investing is I'd want to know
46:09 um and I think to go up a level we all
46:12 benefit
46:14 as commuters in any mode when more
46:17 people are right in transit you're
46:19 driving a car that's one last person on
46:20 the road that sort of thing so if we are
46:23 quite so there's sort of two couple ways
46:25 to look at us like what are the
46:26 objectives if one of the objectives is
46:28 increased ridership
46:30 because that benefits everybody then if
46:33 it increases ridership then that seems
46:35 like a good idea and there could be some
46:37 sort of
46:38 even conceptual cost benefit of that
46:41 that are a justification then there's
46:43 just the the idea of giving residents of
46:46 Issaquah some amenities whether they
46:48 increase ridership or not we you know we
46:51 have parts we have lots of things that
46:52 people like and that's what people
46:54 expect from their city so I think it
46:57 need we need to get real clear on what
46:59 the not just the criteria but like what
47:02 are we solving for and um and then the
47:05 other thing is I
47:08 I would like to know if there are ways
47:12 like I think that popped into my head
47:14 and I'm not trying to suggest tactics
47:17 but like the idea of their other
47:19 creative ways to get these things paid
47:21 for I thought Boy Scouts you know like
47:23 and maybe those things are just entirely
47:25 unbasable but Hannah mentioned
47:27 sponsorship and I would imagine Metro
47:29 has some pretty clear roles and maybe
47:32 that wouldn't be allowed but I I still
47:35 think the idea of finding kind of a low
47:38 budget big bang for the buck ways to
47:41 increase comfort of our people that use
47:47 you know the commuting public
47:50 um Erica did you hear your hand I did I
47:54 admire okay
48:01 if Metro can't help with us and that's
48:03 why we're here answering this question
48:05 but I'm wondering if like uh
48:07 Horticulture Grant
48:10 our other options
48:13 your lives but uh
48:19 that reminds me of the thing I forgot to
48:21 add on my comment which is um I'd want
48:24 to know more about where we fall in line
48:27 because we just all agree that we would
48:30 take the highest priority to stop so
48:31 what if they're the closest to getting
48:33 funded by Metro would we would we have
48:37 formulate some sort of list that we
48:39 think within three years two years five
48:41 years whatever we think is an acceptable
48:43 year that those are likely to get that
48:46 make their way up the queue and they
48:48 might be the most attractive ones that
48:51 have the best chance of getting their
48:52 way through the queue and then maybe we
48:54 would focus on the next level so I think
48:57 the
48:58 I guess to
49:02 um go ahead
49:04 I guess I'm gonna ask the transplanters
49:06 because I don't know this is is this the
49:09 case if you build it build it from like
49:10 what is the connection of like is there
49:13 like proven it's a thing where if you
49:16 put a shelter in the trash can by a bus
49:18 stop ridership increases because I just
49:21 don't know that so then I don't I guess
49:23 my answer
49:25 honestly would be no for this if if it
49:28 doesn't really use ridership so if I can
49:31 actually part of that for a trash can
49:32 now but but someone feels protected from
49:35 the office and some more attractive to
49:37 them to use then they will come we'll
49:39 use it okay and and to your question
49:41 your comment is just say if we say this
49:44 is our priority but eventually got it in
49:46 two years so if we build it now maybe
49:48 mental can take that two-year and build
49:50 one of the other ones a bit like I'm
49:51 afraid they're gonna go build one in
49:52 Kirkland instead though
49:55 as long as do you know what I'm saying
49:57 like because they must have their math
49:58 their entire list priorities or maybe
50:02 they have them by city I don't know
50:06 I was
50:09 I don't work at the like transit route
50:12 facilities who like actually manage and
50:13 like improve the bus stop so I'm not
50:15 really an expert in this area but
50:18 um like I think the things you're
50:19 hearing are consistent with what I know
50:20 which is like there is a list but I
50:22 don't really have it I haven't looked at
50:23 it recently
50:25 um so I couldn't really say like how it
50:27 ranks um but a lot of it does have to do
50:29 with like how many people are out of
50:30 stop
50:31 I think it's a decent number of people
50:34 um you know it's not like tenants like
50:35 25 or even automatic so
50:39 um yeah I would just like take a look at
50:40 what those criteria are like
50:43 look look at where people are like
50:45 most heavily using like particular bus
50:48 stops and and I do again know that we
50:51 will do Partnerships with folks where
50:53 like you know if the city is interested
50:55 investing in bus stops we can like
50:57 figure out what our criteria are for
50:59 like partnering together to like making
51:01 groupies so cost share yeah and we do
51:04 that for like speed liability
51:05 improvements too to like make buses go
51:07 faster and
51:08 um yeah so I'm taking some notes here
51:10 and uh I will I will try to follow up on
51:13 a couple of
51:13 especially partnering in like criteria
51:16 and what what the Outlook is here I get
51:19 the city committed to splitting the cost
51:22 where that suddenly jettisoned like our
51:26 stops of the list that's the part I
51:28 don't know so I don't wanna speak out of
51:30 turn I'll have to look at how we how we
51:32 assess that
51:36 so I'm curious if if we boil this down
51:39 to the simplest answer being yes does
51:43 everyone agree yes or um I Heard Erica
51:45 saying that only if it increases
51:48 ridership which we
51:50 seem to believe it does and we don't
51:52 know how much or maybe somebody does
51:55 um but I guess my question to us is that
51:58 are we all saying
52:00 yes in the simplest form and then we can
52:02 get to the to the color commentary in a
52:05 moment is there anyone that doesn't
52:07 think the answer to this question is yes
52:08 because it's really just saying should
52:09 the city consider I'm Julian are you
52:12 still yeah and he already said yes so
52:18 uh so the first answer is yes the second
52:21 answer is we have some questions we're
52:24 interested in some of these details
52:26 we're interested in cost benefit we're
52:28 interested in making sure that we don't
52:32 um would everyone agree I was the one
52:34 that mentioned it but lots of nods when
52:37 our guests oh I'm Brian mentioned
52:41 um that cost share alternative ways as
52:45 opposed to just taking on that cost
52:47 that's something we're interested in is
52:50 that or to say
52:53 I maybe I would ask Thomas what else did
52:56 you hear
52:58 um unless anybody else has any
52:59 additional tab that we haven't covered
53:01 yet
53:03 if we don't have any new thoughts maybe
53:05 you just ask Thomas what what you're
53:07 hearing is this helpful
53:11 yeah to say about our comments
53:15 these are all great great comments
53:18 um this is such we're in such a
53:19 preliminary stage at this point
53:21 um I've heard so many good comments and
53:23 uh I think
53:26 if this uh is moved forward you know
53:29 we'll be taking this to the mobility and
53:31 infrastructure committee
53:33 um and if this is something that they
53:36 also want to pursue we will dig in
53:38 deeper
53:39 um and flush out some of these uh these
53:42 things some of the ways that like we
53:44 could cost share could be if we're doing
53:47 a capital Improvement project maybe we
53:49 put in the footings for a shelter so
53:51 that it's like ready to go so we we can
53:53 like we can
53:55 um we can make it easier for Metro by
53:58 doing certain things by working together
53:59 with them so there this is a we're just
54:02 getting sort of at the surface level at
54:04 this but it sounds like we are
54:06 interested in looking at ways to sort of
54:09 make it easier
54:11 um or or working with um other
54:15 groups other private and public groups
54:18 to consider ways that we could provide
54:20 amenities in some form uh or another so
54:24 it sounds like that's
54:26 what I'm hearing and then there's a lot
54:27 of like uh suggestions as to how we get
54:31 there
54:33 but is that sort of where we're at
54:38 sounds like it yeah I do have sorry I do
54:41 have a random question I don't know if
54:43 this is a ridiculous idea or not but are
54:45 we eligible to use I don't know what the
54:48 impact fees are in this city as far as
54:52 the different you know Transportation
54:53 impact fees another one but is the city
54:55 permitted to use impact pays for
54:58 something like this
54:59 I'm not aware of that yeah unfortunately
55:02 that's something we can look into
55:14 yeah yeah are there other ways that
55:16 cities can provide shelters is just by
55:18 providing an awning um my apartment
55:20 building here in Seattle there's no
55:23 shelter but there's a huge awning and
55:24 that's where everybody waits to get the
55:26 bus so there's we just need to look
55:28 outside the box it looks like and
55:30 there's lots of ways to get there but um
55:32 you know it sounds like
55:35 we can sort of brainstorm this dig into
55:37 it deeper and then we can um
55:40 maybe consider
55:42 ways to strategize like if if certain
55:45 bus stops are more priority for us
55:48 um but yeah we can we can dig into this
55:50 a little bit further
55:54 sounds good um I think we all know that
55:57 you guys are the professionals and we're
55:58 not gonna tell you how how to get these
56:01 all done but we all couldn't help
56:02 ourselves with some suggestions but I
56:04 think the overall takeaway is that we
56:07 we can't say yes to everything and so
56:09 ways to cost share ways to creative ways
56:11 to fund things would be you know
56:14 a good idea seems like just something I
56:16 guess it's just so concrete it seems
56:18 like there's some and small and seems
56:21 like the kind of thing that you could
56:22 find money for I don't know lots of
56:25 different things but anyway
56:26 um obviously it's not our role to get
56:28 into that level of detail but uh I think
56:32 what you're hearing is
56:33 we think that there's an opportunity to
56:35 be creative
56:37 great
56:39 sounds good
56:41 um okay I have two more questions so I'm
56:43 hoping we can we have to yeah
56:49 now this this is all really great so
56:50 this was a heavy hitter question
56:53 so the next one uh is about micro
56:55 Mobility
56:57 um and so for some of our newer members
57:00 this is a topic that was brought to the
57:03 tab uh last year
57:06 and so just really wanted to brief touch
57:08 very briefly on micro Mobility so
57:11 uh shared micro Mobility is really you
57:14 know like the lime scooters the lime
57:16 bikes the
57:18 you typically access it be an app and
57:21 you can rent it by the minute and then
57:24 you can write it around and then drop it
57:27 off in uh designated locations outside
57:29 of uh you know the sidewalk and all that
57:34 and so shared micro Mobility companies
57:36 they provide services throughout the
57:39 region providing short uh
57:42 providing for short trips just another
57:45 way to provide another Transportation
57:47 choice for folks and a lot of these are
57:50 battery powered and they help people get
57:52 up some of the tricky Hills that we have
57:54 could be useful in in Issaquah for our
57:57 Hills
57:58 um and so last year again the city
58:00 looked into this possibility of
58:02 potentially starting an electric scooter
58:05 pilot program but ultimately it was
58:08 decided that we would not go that route
58:11 some of the concerns that were cited
58:13 were related to where the uh where the
58:16 scooters are stored how scooters are
58:19 rebalanced so like when they're moved
58:21 after they're ridden like where do they
58:24 uh concerns about where scooters are
58:27 written like uh you know what what
58:29 facilities would be capable of where a
58:32 scooter could go so these are some of
58:35 the things that were uh mentioned and so
58:37 sort of given these concerns about
58:40 microability and then you know if
58:43 Issaquah uh were to go there
58:45 um what do you think it would take for
58:47 the city to be ready
58:49 um to receive micro Mobility Services
58:53 thank you go ahead
58:55 well I'm pretty sure I was a lot of
58:58 those comments last time
59:01 um you know I I think I would say that a
59:05 lot of that's still true I mean as we've
59:07 seen in others others that have done
59:09 this I mean I'm sure everyone here has
59:11 seen the
59:13 I don't want to call it a specific
59:14 company but but different ones of these
59:16 in people's Lawns just like Throne cast
59:20 aside
59:21 um you know blocking sidewalks for
59:24 people that actually need the
59:26 accessibility of the sidewalk
59:29 um no one I've never seen someone
59:32 I shouldn't say never but I can't
59:34 remember a time I've seen someone use a
59:36 helmet board we're wearing one of these
59:38 or you go ask any emergency room doctor
59:41 they'll say that's a terrible idea
59:43 um I've seen them written on the
59:44 sidewalk and the street just back and
59:47 forth uh rarely use their you know
59:50 people actually choosing one or the
59:53 other
59:54 I think if if City of Issaquah were to
59:57 do a pilot they would need to do a
1:00:01 geofence pilot a very strict geofence
1:00:04 pilot uh start with you know high
1:00:06 density where they think it's going to
1:00:08 be actually used and you know yeah I
1:00:10 would expect that whatever the company
1:00:12 is that does this all you know applies
1:00:15 the brakes and prevents the bike from
1:00:16 being ridden outside of that geofence
1:00:19 and then the city sets certain standards
1:00:22 about
1:00:24 um you know if they're like not not the
1:00:25 company's fault but if people are
1:00:26 leaving them in blocking sidewalks so
1:00:28 that people that need the sidewalk can't
1:00:32 access it then that's just not going to
1:00:35 um so I think it would take that and I
1:00:38 also you know would probably like to see
1:00:39 the city uh enforce penalties for
1:00:43 stealing base as well
1:00:45 in that pilot because we don't want it
1:00:48 just to be more uh
1:00:51 say trash around the city uh as I've
1:00:56 seen see Redmond in Seattle
1:01:06 okay thank you I can't I should start
1:01:08 over there next time so I don't see the
1:01:10 screen go ahead
1:01:13 um I I hate to push back against some of
1:01:18 the stuff um
1:01:20 I was just in Spokane uh this past
1:01:24 weekend and they have a pretty robust
1:01:26 system of getting around by
1:01:29 the scooters and things like that and I
1:01:32 will say that there is some geofencing
1:01:35 of those
1:01:36 um but I was also in St Louis last
1:01:38 summer or two summers ago and I also
1:01:41 have that and the geofencing was just
1:01:43 applicable everywhere
1:01:44 and so that geofencing basically made
1:01:47 running around at these things pretty
1:01:49 much useless
1:01:51 and so I don't think sure we can
1:01:54 geofence it in some places like in the
1:01:56 middle of Confluence Park or something
1:01:58 but I don't think we should be super
1:02:02 duper strict on
1:02:04 the geofence thing that we do on this um
1:02:07 the one thing that I will say though is
1:02:09 that there's definitely some safety
1:02:10 concerns about
1:02:12 riding around uh and so that kind of
1:02:15 goes into our regular budgetary
1:02:17 decisions about where we're deciding to
1:02:19 spend our money on in transportation
1:02:22 um and trying to build out our driveways
1:02:24 to be more friendly towards
1:02:27 you know non-car mobility and so I think
1:02:31 that's where the focus and the
1:02:33 discussion should be at I feel like and
1:02:37 um that's where I'm at and I think micro
1:02:39 Mobility is a pretty cool way to get
1:02:40 around town in general
1:02:43 um you know in Spokane I was using it to
1:02:45 from the hotel I was at into uh to the
1:02:49 meeting venue in downtown Spokane for
1:02:51 example and so it's just a useful way to
1:02:53 boost that tourism boost
1:02:56 um you know that local traffic as well
1:02:59 I think we should be pursuing it um
1:03:02 yeah with some caveats
1:03:07 last night and watched the city council
1:03:11 vote on this and just got really sad all
1:03:13 over again because I wanted the context
1:03:15 for that because my for this I just
1:03:18 wanted to know I'm like well why didn't
1:03:19 city council think that we weren't ready
1:03:21 because we had a robust discussion about
1:03:23 it I was really stoked for little
1:03:25 scooters because I live up on the
1:03:28 highlands half the reason why I don't
1:03:29 ride my bike down to this meeting is
1:03:31 because I don't want to ride it all the
1:03:32 way back up that big hill and so um
1:03:41 um something that stuck out to me at the
1:03:43 council meeting was I'll say like this
1:03:45 isn't a solution or
1:03:48 all our Transit issues and public
1:03:50 schools he did but um but it is I guess
1:03:54 one option to solve a few different
1:03:58 uh transit or Transportation issues that
1:04:01 we have so um I think uh I did not know
1:04:06 but was estimates
1:04:07 activism sounds like uh the feedback or
1:04:10 like it was like 60 of the feedback was
1:04:12 categorized as negative
1:04:14 um so I guess like we need a more robust
1:04:16 like communication playing or like
1:04:19 campaign about this um uh I think
1:04:22 highlighting the successes that cities
1:04:23 have had I
1:04:25 I know there are negatives I
1:04:28 uh Seattle like a couple years ago
1:04:31 line bike at the bottom of Lake Union s
1:04:33 like in my brain but I
1:04:36 um I don't know I think this could work
1:04:37 for our city it's not going to solve all
1:04:39 of our transportation issues but yeah
1:04:46 I do I know the equity issue is
1:04:49 highlighted for uh
1:04:58 I think filtering this like another
1:05:01 pilot through the equity board is really
1:05:03 important
1:05:04 inspired
1:05:07 so I see you on your hand up but I think
1:05:09 you need to choke yeah maybe yeah go
1:05:12 ahead
1:05:13 oh no if you have a question go ahead
1:05:14 and no
1:05:15 um is the is what I said he was looking
1:05:18 at maybe you know for the vote is it
1:05:20 about whether the city is allowing them
1:05:23 something to operate or funding
1:05:25 something
1:05:26 it was just the voltages for the pilot
1:05:28 and the pilot was paying for it
1:05:31 before
1:05:37 foreign
1:05:41 [Music]
1:05:48 [Music]
1:05:54 area you know the highlands area
1:05:57 and so you might have the two areas but
1:05:59 you mentioned like right in the Highland
1:06:01 down here so that answered my question
1:06:02 then people would use it in a broader
1:06:04 context than
1:06:06 Associates
1:06:08 um that just to look hilarious so that
1:06:10 would be so that
1:06:12 my thought was like food really usings
1:06:14 but I think your answer then people
1:06:17 longer just don't use it so it should be
1:06:19 awesome because no that was another
1:06:21 point that that was brought up in the
1:06:23 council meeting and that is I agree with
1:06:25 is that if we're looking at this just
1:06:26 also solve like some First and Last Mile
1:06:28 issues where the pilot was proposed did
1:06:31 it this necessarily it didn't seemed
1:06:33 like it was going to cover all that like
1:06:35 I actually don't even know if I could
1:06:36 ride an e-bike up the hill
1:06:41 uh-huh
1:06:44 since it was free they were controlling
1:06:46 what would be best for that
1:06:48 uh bring back memories
1:06:54 the following question
1:06:56 um I see Juliana I just want to ask that
1:06:59 question if that's okay dude
1:07:00 make sure we're all talking about the
1:07:02 same thing so the pilot would be free
1:07:04 that almost implies to me that the
1:07:07 concept is the city would then fund part
1:07:09 of it later
1:07:11 no it's so with a thing like a scooter
1:07:14 share it's different for Bike Share Bike
1:07:16 Share it does include
1:07:18 actual infrastructure and stuff like
1:07:20 that but for scooter share uh usually
1:07:22 it's just the overhead is just the
1:07:24 scooters I'm a city you can't get
1:07:27 involved you know
1:07:28 paint parking areas for scooters but
1:07:31 they're not paying to manage anything
1:07:34 but literally it's a free market
1:07:36 allowing the free market to come in
1:07:42 Julian go ahead and then I want to I
1:07:44 want to say something go ahead Julian
1:07:47 yeah going back to that question about
1:07:49 who would you sit in that particular
1:07:52 proposed pilot and I remember I still
1:07:55 remember that map
1:07:57 um and my home would be in that limit
1:08:00 and so I would definitely be a pretty
1:08:02 frequent user of it in terms of
1:08:04 you know it takes 10 minutes usually to
1:08:08 walk to the 554 stop for me and so
1:08:12 um doing taking the uh
1:08:15 electric scooter downtown would be much
1:08:18 faster of course in doing that and so
1:08:22 yeah that would be one of those users
1:08:24 and so I think it just you know fills in
1:08:26 that last mile
1:08:27 um where it might otherwise be difficult
1:08:29 to do that because
1:08:32 you know if we're talking about Gilman
1:08:33 Village we can always put a shuttle
1:08:36 there to go to connect it to
1:08:39 um you know to the town hall bus stop
1:08:41 but I think a lot of people might like
1:08:43 to just take the scooter on the Rainier
1:08:45 Trail for example
1:08:47 and go all the way to the town hall that
1:08:55 things on
1:08:59 last one
1:09:01 they're different classes there are
1:09:03 three different classes of security
1:09:05 uh that's a bike that's just uh
1:09:16 like lime scooters
1:09:24 inside work
1:09:25 because we classified as a bicycle we
1:09:27 can talk about it later
1:09:28 so I just want to answer this question
1:09:30 for myself myself and that say that um I
1:09:34 think it's a great question I love this
1:09:36 question what would it take for the city
1:09:38 to be ready to consider I think it's a
1:09:39 really sailing question I think one of
1:09:42 them is
1:09:43 I need to know more about the topography
1:09:46 and it seems like connecting Highlands
1:09:48 with the valley floor and other you know
1:09:52 places that are topographically
1:09:55 challenged to connect with the valley
1:09:57 floor
1:09:58 um but I also just want to say I mean I
1:10:00 think this is inevitable we just looked
1:10:02 at a slide that talked about
1:10:04 how much the growth is going to be
1:10:06 concentrated on the valley floor so I
1:10:09 think that
1:10:10 um on the one hand I feel like it's
1:10:11 inevitable and we shouldn't stick our
1:10:13 head in the sand but on the other hand I
1:10:15 really want all these other cities to
1:10:16 work out all of the details first and
1:10:18 figure everything out first because it
1:10:20 does it seems fraught and divisive and I
1:10:24 mean people get really pissed off about
1:10:26 them so I just sort of feel like
1:10:28 it's kind of speaking out of both sides
1:10:30 like wait till it's really dialed and
1:10:33 then plan to get it done um but I just
1:10:37 don't think it's just such a good idea I
1:10:39 would love to have had one to get the
1:10:41 mile and a quarter from my house here
1:10:43 but instead I had to ride my fancy road
1:10:44 bike and then have the wrong shoes for
1:10:46 you know
1:10:48 um I would love to jump on a scooter or
1:10:51 a line bike
1:10:52 um so I I think maybe one of the answers
1:10:56 is time
1:10:58 we're just not going to be able to keep
1:11:00 saying no forever because it's I think
1:11:02 it's a way of the future but Micah go
1:11:04 ahead well no knowing that the city
1:11:07 doesn't pay for it I'm entirely opposed
1:11:10 to the city paying for it because it
1:11:11 always happens is there's only a few
1:11:13 companies that do this so you're
1:11:15 essentially it's just a little too
1:11:17 limited not enough
1:11:19 foreign
1:11:21 but if this is about whether it's purely
1:11:25 allowing the company to come in and
1:11:27 operate that's a little that's that's
1:11:29 different for me I still would want to
1:11:32 see I think I agree with you I want to I
1:11:34 want to see some of the issues worked
1:11:36 out because
1:11:37 drive around Seattle you'll see what I
1:11:41 um everyone has seen it I think that
1:11:43 that doesn't need to be worked out and
1:11:44 so that's where like I would say
1:11:46 geofencing and I get at that limits you
1:11:48 can use it but let's we can see other
1:11:51 parts of the issues and start to get
1:11:54 things operating see how that all works
1:11:57 out yes from the perspective of the
1:11:59 usability of it it'd be better if
1:12:01 there's no geofence but
1:12:04 because not all the other issues are
1:12:06 worked out you start with maybe limited
1:12:08 and we just saw is one of you pointed
1:12:10 out the majority of that growth is in
1:12:12 that area so that seems like the area
1:12:14 you already have your outline
1:12:17 right there
1:12:19 if I could jump in just for time uh I'm
1:12:23 gonna redirect us a little bit for the
1:12:26 question specifically like the what so
1:12:28 we're talking about like kind of around
1:12:31 what but I you know just want to make
1:12:33 sure that we're staying on track one of
1:12:35 the other what's this time one of the
1:12:37 what's is
1:12:38 that addressing the concerns what's one
1:12:42 what is another one
1:12:49 another what is getting people
1:12:52 more of the boundaries what would be
1:12:54 what would be the boundaries
1:13:00 I don't think the joe side you should be
1:13:01 able to take it downtown at the banana
1:13:03 you should be able to be able to stand
1:13:04 the whole city how about the what what
1:13:06 would it take the what being
1:13:09 um a really strategic
1:13:14 highly
1:13:16 plausible route that is then
1:13:19 geofenced but still has enough
1:13:23 options for it to be a legit pilot
1:13:27 does that make sense okay yeah
1:13:30 so just to reiterate just uh you know
1:13:33 thinking about all the the wrinkles in
1:13:36 what the program could be trying to dial
1:13:39 those in making sure that it's still
1:13:42 useful but also
1:13:44 um has like our
1:13:46 our sort of stamp on it so it's not just
1:13:48 it's not like a big city program but it
1:13:51 has more of like our um our intentions
1:13:54 like built into it
1:13:57 so I guess just like in general just
1:13:59 more ironed out
1:14:01 and just like thinking about
1:14:03 ways that we can learn from how other
1:14:06 cities have done it and what we don't
1:14:08 like about that and see if we can try to
1:14:10 fix on that
1:14:13 do you have something I want to say yeah
1:14:14 I'm just just affirming that it's um
1:14:17 taking the uh the experience of other
1:14:20 cities
1:14:26 okay well as uh Mr Larson friend pointed
1:14:29 out we probably should move along
1:14:31 um we're not terrible yet but we're
1:14:33 starting to run out of time I know we
1:14:35 have one more big question
1:14:40 we should move along unless you have any
1:14:42 questions about
1:14:44 where we hopefully we gave you coherent
1:14:46 enough feedback yep definitely
1:14:50 uh and I'm going to zoom through the
1:14:52 next couple slides uh if you've read the
1:14:56 packet you may know some of this already
1:14:59 but if you haven't I'll just briefly
1:15:01 touch on this
1:15:03 um and so what uh
1:15:05 what Brian from Metro uh who's going to
1:15:09 be presenting after after me he was just
1:15:12 sort of alluding to uh Transit speed and
1:15:14 reliability
1:15:15 um projects that uh that some cities uh
1:15:18 can do to make strategic improvements um
1:15:21 to the transit service that we do have
1:15:23 so I'm just going to talk about some
1:15:26 examples of what that may look like
1:15:29 and so
1:15:31 some of the Strategic Investments that
1:15:33 the city could make to improve Transit
1:15:36 along our Network could be to reduce
1:15:39 Transit delays improve the reliability
1:15:42 of Transit so that the bus comes uh you
1:15:45 know when it should be based on the
1:15:47 timetable and just generally reducing
1:15:50 transit times so that as we think about
1:15:52 that map where like some routes are more
1:15:55 competitive with driving than others if
1:15:58 we can reduce travel times we can make
1:16:01 riding the bus a more viable option for
1:16:04 our community
1:16:05 and so some of the examples that people
1:16:08 may know about in this room but uh it's
1:16:11 possible that you don't
1:16:13 one example is a business access and
1:16:16 Transit lane or a bat Lane these are
1:16:19 used in many contexts so like in this
1:16:21 example this is more downtown sort of uh
1:16:25 treatment but we also have it along
1:16:27 sr900
1:16:28 um you may have seen it's like a carpool
1:16:30 lane and also used for buses so that's
1:16:33 sort of another example there's also
1:16:36 some a bus signal that sort of works
1:16:38 with that so buses are able to use that
1:16:41 to get some priority treatments
1:16:44 these Lanes typically allow for like
1:16:47 right turning vehicles to access
1:16:48 businesses sometimes bikes can ride
1:16:51 through them depending on the context so
1:16:53 this is just one example of a priority
1:16:55 treatment that really does help buses
1:16:58 and in order to uh you know before we
1:17:02 would consider doing any of these things
1:17:03 we would want to model the effects of
1:17:05 providing an improvement making sure
1:17:08 that we can mitigate any potential
1:17:10 impacts that would occur
1:17:12 and another example is a cue jump this
1:17:15 is very common in the in the region it
1:17:19 essentially provides buses a head start
1:17:20 at intersections that are signalized
1:17:23 this graphic on the right sort of
1:17:25 describes what it is so you're you know
1:17:27 you board your bus the bus gets the
1:17:30 green before everybody else on that leg
1:17:33 up the intersection and then the bus can
1:17:35 jump ahead so jumps the queue
1:17:38 that's just another example this can be
1:17:41 used in conjunction with uh you know a
1:17:44 business access Transit lane or like
1:17:46 whatever bat Lane
1:17:49 um and yeah I mean these can be sort of
1:17:51 joined together and uh you know any
1:17:54 again any initial improvements we'd want
1:17:56 to like make sure that we
1:17:58 take a holistic View at it making sure
1:18:01 that we're not
1:18:02 um making significant impacts on another
1:18:04 mode but that's sort of another option
1:18:07 that's available and
1:18:09 just going to try to advance this slide
1:18:11 here and the third option
1:18:13 um which again can be used with the
1:18:15 other types this is uh tsp you may have
1:18:20 heard of it when you all when the tab
1:18:22 was looking at the its uh
1:18:26 plan uh last year
1:18:29 Transit priority treatments for tsp it's
1:18:33 basically so like if you look at number
1:18:34 one two and three so the bus is
1:18:37 approaching an intersection it sends a
1:18:40 signal
1:18:41 to three which is like Hardware uh at
1:18:45 the intersection and then the
1:18:48 intersection can provide more green time
1:18:51 for the bus to get through the
1:18:52 intersection so it really just
1:18:54 dynamically can change the timing of the
1:18:58 intersection to make sure that the bus
1:18:59 can get through and it can significantly
1:19:02 reduce the travel time on the bus making
1:19:05 it more competitive with driving and all
1:19:08 so yeah these are just three examples of
1:19:11 priority treatments that the city can do
1:19:14 in order to
1:19:16 strategically use our funds to improve
1:19:20 the transit that we have today and it
1:19:22 really just sort of makes the whole
1:19:24 Transit Network that much better and
1:19:27 it's something that we can do uh sort of
1:19:29 alongside Metro or Sound Transit
1:19:32 and it's
1:19:37 so yeah and again like these any
1:19:39 solution that we would consider would be
1:19:40 sort of tailored to the approach making
1:19:42 sure that it's a good you know cost
1:19:45 benefit
1:19:46 and so the policy question for the tab
1:19:48 and thank you for bearing with me as I
1:19:51 provided that information
1:19:53 um so where meaningful improvements can
1:19:54 be made to make enhanced speed and or
1:19:57 reliability
1:19:58 um of high quality Transit service
1:20:02 should the city be considering the
1:20:05 Strategic use of priority treatments
1:20:08 near signalized intersections
1:20:15 I'm gonna go first this time that I'm
1:20:17 gone first yet definitely I think that
1:20:21 um all these things make a heck of a lot
1:20:24 of sense and I don't know how they would
1:20:25 get implemented exactly but I know that
1:20:28 we have made the decision to invest in
1:20:31 its and it seems like its and tsp go
1:20:35 hand in hand
1:20:37 um and I just that seems like really
1:20:39 low-hanging fruit to me
1:20:44 for yeah
1:20:46 um for the future to be able to
1:20:48 accommodate all the
1:20:52 gross
1:20:53 um we're not going to be able to drive
1:20:55 not everyone's going to be able to drive
1:20:57 through here and um we have to increase
1:20:59 the competitiveness I think of the buses
1:21:02 in order to
1:21:04 get there
1:21:05 um so that's what I think and Micah had
1:21:08 his hand up at Julian he understand it
1:21:09 but I think Michael was first
1:21:11 so I would say
1:21:17 requires the reduction in travel lanes
1:21:20 that were otherwise determined the
1:21:22 appropriate amount of lanes
1:21:26 that I would say no
1:21:28 because
1:21:29 I don't think that we should be just for
1:21:32 the purpose of allowing a boss to build
1:21:34 a shortcut an intersection
1:21:37 reduce travel lanes that further will
1:21:40 make traffic worse slow down drivers it
1:21:44 you know we should be encouraging people
1:21:46 to use buzzes just by punishing drivers
1:21:49 right so
1:21:50 um it's like a yes it's I would say yes
1:21:53 I agree but it's all in the how it's how
1:21:56 it's actually done and I think you know
1:21:58 just looking at these Graphics it either
1:22:00 looks like you're taking a lane away
1:22:02 you're taking parking away in a
1:22:05 slightly an area where there's not a lot
1:22:06 of parking to begin with and street
1:22:08 parking is often the only option
1:22:11 um or you're going to be building an
1:22:13 additional Lane which can be quite
1:22:14 expensive so you know all of those
1:22:16 things are very troubling to me
1:22:19 but if there's a way around that then
1:22:22 absolutely it sounds awesome
1:22:24 I think Julian and then we'll go Tom
1:22:26 Julian go ahead
1:22:31 I would say yes to all of these the I
1:22:35 believe three items that you showed in
1:22:38 terms of the transit priority links and
1:22:40 and all that um
1:22:43 just because you know the fact of the
1:22:45 matter is as we go into the future
1:22:48 and as we
1:22:50 try to get light rail line over here
1:22:53 the fact of the matter is that we're
1:22:55 gonna have to prioritize movement of
1:22:57 people
1:22:58 um and that only comes with you know the
1:23:01 bustling treatments and things like that
1:23:05 and so I would say that we should go
1:23:07 full forward on these um
1:23:10 and things to promote the high quality
1:23:12 Transit service that we need going to
1:23:14 the Future
1:23:16 um and to try to reduce that congestion
1:23:18 that we have in the city
1:23:22 um because like I said we're becoming
1:23:24 more urban there's no way to stop it
1:23:27 right and so we should be trying to
1:23:28 promote the movement of people now so
1:23:32 that's what I have to say
1:23:34 thanks
1:23:41 there's a bus line that goes up to the
1:23:44 intersection makes your right turn then
1:23:45 there's also acute jump right at the end
1:23:47 it's over example
1:23:54 uh and then if you jump right on
1:23:55 Government Boulevard uh I've come in
1:23:58 quite handy when I'm expecting however
1:24:00 you're coming through
1:24:02 where they can have their IQ jump
1:24:05 through the intersection field and move
1:24:06 over all the lanes and then
1:24:08 intersection so that's a good example
1:24:11 people want to see one then mid-action
1:24:14 um and I'd say yes it's a good thing and
1:24:16 I would say it's a good thing to have
1:24:18 prioritize something where we can
1:24:20 foreign
1:24:55 at least
1:24:56 uh yeah
1:24:58 right stand up in the rain
1:25:01 not have a trash can but
1:25:03 it takes super fast to get through town
1:25:06 okay you're an umbrella yeah
1:25:11 yeah it's um
1:25:14 such projects I think they will have
1:25:16 some uh like consequences during
1:25:19 construction
1:25:21 yeah so that shouldn't be studied also
1:25:25 because what I've noticed that the
1:25:27 streets in Issaquah are not that wide
1:25:32 yeah so taking off a lane or working on
1:25:36 a lane from two or three lanes that's
1:25:39 half or a third of the capacity so
1:25:43 what's the time plus the disturbance so
1:25:46 that should be considered I believe
1:25:48 prior to
1:25:50 taking that
1:25:53 I want to Circle back and just say that
1:25:55 after listening to Micah I wanted to
1:25:58 reiterate that
1:26:00 um or I it wasn't super clear I do think
1:26:03 that we should start with the lowest
1:26:05 hanging fruit and I don't think we
1:26:07 should start by punishing cars and I
1:26:09 think that um you know if you think 30
1:26:11 years from now 20 years from now it's a
1:26:13 lot different
1:26:15 um but if you're talking about
1:26:17 short-term CIP tip
1:26:21 um I like the idea of starting and I
1:26:23 don't know what exists so there's
1:26:24 probably existing things but I mean the
1:26:28 the priority
1:26:30 um without
1:26:32 so the its face thing seems like a
1:26:35 low-hanging group to me before a lot of
1:26:37 investment is made and
1:26:39 um yeah modifying our
1:26:42 skinny little streets here
1:26:49 all right well I think we answered that
1:26:52 question pretty
1:26:53 um clearly anybody have anything to add
1:26:57 let's see Julian okay
1:26:59 um good all right well these are um
1:27:02 good uh questions and I think it's a
1:27:06 good had a good discussion we all want
1:27:08 to dig into some of this policy issues
1:27:10 hopefully we provide some good feedback
1:27:12 for you guys
1:27:14 um I don't remember where we are as the
1:27:16 is that the end of the presentation yeah
1:27:18 okay yeah that's the end uh yeah I
1:27:20 appreciate your time uh got a whole lot
1:27:23 of great feedback on these three
1:27:24 questions so um you know moving forward
1:27:26 I'll be taking this to mobility and
1:27:29 infrastructure committee uh next month
1:27:31 so um we'll be sure to provide uh your
1:27:34 feedback to them as well so that they
1:27:36 can make a decision on this
1:27:40 um I want to remind you and
1:27:45 um John that we uh had made a decision
1:27:49 that our we would have a chance to
1:27:52 review that before it goes there and
1:27:54 Julian and I are on point to make quick
1:27:57 turnarounds so that it doesn't hold up
1:27:59 your process but I just want us to
1:28:01 exercise that muscle
1:28:03 um and then if there's anybody I have a
1:28:05 standing commitment on Tuesday evenings
1:28:08 I have two
1:28:10 um and um but I do think it's nice if
1:28:13 anybody wants to attend and the mobility
1:28:16 infrastructure committee is the second
1:28:17 Tuesday of every month so maybe give us
1:28:19 an opportunity maybe to send that around
1:28:21 if anybody
1:28:22 um wants to go I think it's really
1:28:25 useful to hear the discussion at the m i
1:28:27 committee and what they what interest
1:28:30 they take in our feedback as well as
1:28:32 like different points of view and then
1:28:34 being able to understand where they're
1:28:35 coming from I think is helpful for us so
1:28:37 I think it's nice
1:28:39 um so maybe uh send us a note so we can
1:28:42 to remind us when that happens and give
1:28:44 us an opportunity to send a
1:28:46 representative
1:28:48 um if you don't mind
1:28:49 and we're really close to being on time
1:28:53 um Thomas do you have anything else
1:28:55 that's it yeah thanks for your time
1:28:57 appreciate it okay well thank you that
1:28:59 was good uh that was great
1:29:01 um I think that we will that brings us
1:29:03 then to
1:29:05 um we're only three minutes behind in
1:29:06 the schedule three four four oh sorry
1:29:10 um that brings us to item four C which
1:29:13 is a Metro flight
1:29:15 introduction and
1:29:18 um I'm not sure if you want to take it
1:29:21 away John
1:29:24 Mr Brian Henry here thank you for coming
1:29:26 oh yeah thank you it's great to be here
1:29:27 great to see you everyone
1:29:30 uh it's all kicks off
1:29:33 um so I'm here to well we're both here
1:29:36 to chat about uh possible partnership
1:29:39 with Metro uh
1:29:41 Metroplex on demand service
1:29:45 myself and Brian here will be presenting
1:29:48 some information to you tonight uh so we
1:29:51 have this divided this conversation
1:29:52 divided into two pieces
1:29:54 this month will kind of get just kind of
1:29:57 a quick 20-minute introduction is what
1:29:59 is scheduled
1:30:01 and then uh next month we'll be able to
1:30:03 dive in probably for an entire hour or
1:30:07 to have a really robust discussion
1:30:09 around around this
1:30:14 I actually clicked uh so this will come
1:30:16 this today will be two pieces Brian is
1:30:19 going to provide an introduction of the
1:30:22 service to you all and then I also at
1:30:26 the end have a little bit of a note
1:30:28 Transit survey that we conducted in the
1:30:31 talus
1:30:32 walk and Old Town neighborhoods
1:30:35 and then if we get if we're if we don't
1:30:38 if we aren't at 750
1:30:40 then we'll have time for some q a if
1:30:43 there are questions but uh if not if we
1:30:46 get to 750 and it's gone I would ask
1:30:49 that you write those questions down so
1:30:50 we can discuss
1:30:53 so with that hand it over to you great
1:30:56 all right I'll try to get through it
1:30:57 quick so we can do some good
1:30:58 conversation so just to introduce myself
1:31:01 um I'm Brian Henry and I work in Metro's
1:31:04 um uh uh service planning and so I'm the
1:31:07 team lead for the East part of King
1:31:08 County and so we look not just at kind
1:31:10 of these kind of flexible services but
1:31:12 also like the fixed route plate in the
1:31:13 fixed route service
1:31:15 um and yeah so I'm definitely around
1:31:17 here and try to keep track of what's
1:31:18 going on so it's great to see everyone
1:31:21 um so next slide here is just kind of
1:31:23 what we're going to go over I think John
1:31:24 said it best we're really here just to
1:31:27 kind of let you know what this is all
1:31:28 about help understand take questions
1:31:31 about how it works and it's just a great
1:31:34 opportunity to do like me working with
1:31:35 John others at the city
1:31:37 um John kind of came to us and was like
1:31:38 asking about on demand and was kind of
1:31:40 like working on it and thinking like oh
1:31:42 I you know I'm doing research on this
1:31:44 like what do you all do and then we kind
1:31:45 of told them what we've been doing and
1:31:47 we kind of you know kind of led to this
1:31:49 opportunity to talk more about this so I
1:31:51 think the next step here is just kind of
1:31:53 let you all know about it tonight ask
1:31:55 some questions and then we can go from
1:31:57 there
1:31:58 so first I just want to um on this next
1:32:01 slide kind of go over the idea that
1:32:05 yeah there we go awesome times yeah just
1:32:08 to look like we have been doing a lot of
1:32:10 uh piloting of different kinds of
1:32:12 services over the years and this just
1:32:14 kind of gives a little bit of that
1:32:15 background
1:32:17 um for almost 10 years just working with
1:32:18 communities like learning about
1:32:20 different ways that we can approach
1:32:21 providing Mobility for folks and that's
1:32:24 really kind of consistent with Metro's
1:32:26 overall philosophy which is to be a
1:32:28 Mobility agency and to look at meeting
1:32:30 different kinds of needs in different
1:32:31 ways um so we have like a whole Suite of
1:32:34 different ways that people can use our
1:32:36 services uh you know from like really
1:32:39 rapid buses to like vanpool programs um
1:32:42 and then we'll talk about Metroflex
1:32:43 tonight but uh we definitely are always
1:32:45 looking to uh try something new
1:32:48 especially if we could address
1:32:49 um the need in the community
1:32:54 all right so the role of on-demand
1:32:56 Services
1:32:57 um this just kind of talks a little bit
1:32:58 about like how does this work on demand
1:33:00 is typically uh sort of like where you
1:33:05 um need a ride and aim to go somewhere
1:33:07 and typically can use an app or make a
1:33:10 phone call to like schedule a ride to
1:33:12 come pick you up so there's a lot of
1:33:13 different versions of this
1:33:15 um in some ways our paratrends is a
1:33:17 version of this you know folks who can't
1:33:18 use the regular bus they make an
1:33:20 appointment they go from point to point
1:33:22 but with technology we've really been
1:33:24 able to innovate how we get around and
1:33:27 that's really what this is all about
1:33:29 um you know we have also been updating
1:33:32 our policies um in 2021 Metro updated
1:33:36 um it's it's strategic plan our Metro
1:33:39 connects long range plan and our service
1:33:40 guidelines and it kind of reaffirmed the
1:33:43 support for like these type of
1:33:44 innovative approaches but it also helped
1:33:47 us like look at how we can provide more
1:33:49 guidance
1:33:50 um on on developing these services and
1:33:52 evaluating that
1:33:53 um so we we look at you know things like
1:33:56 density access to jobs and assets
1:33:59 Partnerships
1:34:01 um Geographic barriers places where
1:34:03 there's like not great pedestrian
1:34:04 infrastructure so those are all things
1:34:06 that can help us
1:34:07 um you know look for this as an
1:34:09 opportunity for this kind of service
1:34:13 so I mentioned a couple of things that
1:34:15 we look at for like prioritizing like
1:34:17 where these kind of services work but
1:34:19 our service guidelines
1:34:21 um also talk about how we evaluate these
1:34:23 services so I just wanted to kind of
1:34:25 share like what do we what do we look at
1:34:27 like when we're seeing how they're
1:34:28 performing
1:34:29 um and these are the three main things
1:34:31 so are we are we serving priority
1:34:33 populations
1:34:34 um in King County are are we being
1:34:36 efficient with taxpayer dollars so like
1:34:38 how much does it cost per Rider
1:34:41 um to provide a trip like this and then
1:34:43 are we being productive like so are we
1:34:46 carrying a lot of people for every hour
1:34:47 of the vehicles out there um which is
1:34:49 also kind of a sustainability measure as
1:34:51 well like the more people you carry the
1:34:53 the less emissions per mile so for a
1:34:57 person but we also have a lot of other
1:34:58 indicators that we look at for how the
1:35:00 service is working
1:35:02 um so whether or not you know we're
1:35:04 overwhelmed by demand we need to adjust
1:35:05 so like making sure seats are available
1:35:07 managing our wait time so people don't
1:35:10 have to wait too long
1:35:12 um a whole range of things things what's
1:35:14 a pmtnb that's like passenger miles
1:35:17 travel versus vehicle miles traveling so
1:35:20 it's kind of that productivity thing so
1:35:22 if you're if you're carrying people many
1:35:24 miles but the view like in other words
1:35:26 if five people are in the vehicle for a
1:35:28 mile then that's pretty efficient
1:35:30 because you've done five person miles
1:35:31 for one vehicle mile so that's like less
1:35:33 emissions the ratio between person
1:35:35 amounts of vehicles yeah that's a little
1:35:37 yeah well maybe we'll have to change the
1:35:39 wording on that one thanks for that
1:35:43 so now I'll talk about Metroflex so
1:35:46 Metroflex is our on-demand service or
1:35:49 sometimes it's called micro Transit
1:35:51 yeah uh what's the average cost per
1:35:55 rider for a bus compared to the cost
1:35:58 provider for Enterprise
1:36:00 it's um it's definitely higher for much
1:36:03 for Metroflex or for an unwind service
1:36:05 typically
1:36:07 um than buses it depends on where the
1:36:09 buses are you know like some buses but
1:36:11 bus routes are more efficient than
1:36:12 others
1:36:14 um but I would say in general and it
1:36:16 also depends on how efficient like the
1:36:18 micro transit or the on-demand services
1:36:20 so you know Metro services like can
1:36:24 range from like five to ten dollars per
1:36:27 um I I would want to come back and like
1:36:29 confirm that but it's like yeah I'm not
1:36:31 looking for a specific number I'm just
1:36:33 just trying to get an understanding of
1:36:34 like whether this is the same order of
1:36:37 magnitude just different cost or we're
1:36:39 talking like yeah yeah I mean I think
1:36:42 like in a dancer area it gets down to
1:36:44 like for like for the like Metroflex
1:36:46 it's you know right 10 to 12 an hour but
1:36:49 it can go up to like 30 something
1:36:51 dollars an hour like less dense areas
1:36:52 where there's less demand so it's it's
1:36:54 really a rage
1:36:58 um yeah but this before you go on like
1:37:00 this is really kind of like what it's
1:37:01 all about so you use an app there's also
1:37:03 a call center and there's translation
1:37:05 um for folks we have the app in
1:37:07 different languages
1:37:09 um you we we aim to have about 15
1:37:10 minutes of wait time and it's we call it
1:37:13 like corner to quarter
1:37:15 um so there's a little bit of a walk
1:37:16 distance to get to a pickup point which
1:37:18 makes it a little more efficient
1:37:20 um and we uh yeah so that's kind of the
1:37:23 overview you can pay with many of this
1:37:25 you cannot pay with cash unfortunately
1:37:26 but you can use a lot of Metro's other
1:37:29 um payment methods uh like so ticket
1:37:31 code Transit
1:37:35 so um this these are the Metroflex areas
1:37:38 that we have in King County right now
1:37:41 um and you can see just a little quick
1:37:42 profile and like the service hours
1:37:46 um and days like when do we provide it
1:37:48 um and on what days so this is something
1:37:50 that we've been piloting in different
1:37:52 places
1:37:53 um recently we Consolidated all of our
1:37:55 on-demand Services into like a single
1:37:57 brand and a single operator in a single
1:37:59 app to make it more consistent for
1:38:01 everyone and a lot more efficient so you
1:38:03 may be familiar with Community ride with
1:38:06 the cement or service that was on demand
1:38:08 um and now that's just part of this
1:38:09 overall Metroflex brand
1:38:14 and then this is just to show you really
1:38:16 quickly kind of what does it look like
1:38:18 how does the app look how do you how do
1:38:20 you do it you know you don't it's pretty
1:38:22 typical of like how we use a lot of our
1:38:23 apps we download the app and then you
1:38:25 kind of Select where you want to go and
1:38:27 it gives you different options
1:38:29 um notably it gives you bus options too
1:38:32 um just in case that's of interest to
1:38:33 you or you know like you need another
1:38:36 option if like there's a longer wait
1:38:38 time than you might like and then um
1:38:40 yeah your driver comes and picks you up
1:38:42 so pretty pretty basic
1:38:43 um way that these type of things work
1:38:46 and then on the next slide
1:38:48 this shows like kind of a new feature
1:38:50 that we're testing um with with
1:38:51 Metroflex right now where we are
1:38:55 integrating with fixed Roots so like if
1:38:57 the bus is really convenient and really
1:38:59 fast we want people to use the bus
1:39:01 because that's just efficient and then
1:39:03 someone else can use the Metroflex so
1:39:05 the app actually like points you to a
1:39:08 bus if it's going to be like the same
1:39:11 amount of waiting time and the same
1:39:12 amount of
1:39:13 um like no no transfers or anything so
1:39:15 if you're standing right next to a
1:39:16 really frequent bus stop the app will
1:39:18 know if the bus is coming soon and it's
1:39:20 going to where you want to go so it's
1:39:23 it's a pretty integrated feature to like
1:39:25 really try to use Metroflex when it's
1:39:26 going to work and use the bus when
1:39:28 that's going to work
1:39:34 um you know I don't do that much ride
1:39:36 sharing lately so I I couldn't say and
1:39:38 I'm not familiar with kind of like how
1:39:40 how much ride Shares are but I know it's
1:39:42 a lot cheaper because we're just
1:39:44 charging a metro fare so she prefer the
1:39:47 person right right
1:39:50 cost yeah well the cost overall like a
1:39:54 lot of our services we kind of got into
1:39:55 that just a minute ago with like how
1:39:57 much is it for a ride so we're looking
1:39:59 at that
1:40:00 um and like we want to make sure we're
1:40:02 being productive and efficient as well
1:40:04 as because we are subsidizing it we're
1:40:06 not but fair does not payable the whole
1:40:09 amount but that's true of all of our
1:40:10 services
1:40:11 um but yeah I mean it's a good question
1:40:13 I should have noted that earlier it's
1:40:14 it's a standard Metro fair and we have
1:40:16 we have accessible Vehicles we have like
1:40:18 for wheelchairs we have bike racks um we
1:40:21 also have
1:40:23 um you know you can have like if you're
1:40:26 Ada you need like it'll take it you
1:40:28 right to where you're going you won't
1:40:29 have to like walk so there's and we have
1:40:32 like low reduced fare so a lot of the
1:40:34 options you have on a regular bus are
1:40:36 available on Metroplex
1:40:40 um and yeah and so I just wanted to end
1:40:42 here to kind of like wrap around to some
1:40:44 of the conversations we've been having
1:40:45 with with John really and a few other
1:40:47 folks at the city
1:40:49 um just to sort of start to think about
1:40:51 like what you know what is this all
1:40:53 about and I think this kind of started
1:40:55 with the idea that there's been a big
1:40:57 need in this walk and tell us
1:40:58 communities to like better connect down
1:41:00 to the transit center into some of the
1:41:02 denser areas and services
1:41:04 um you know and so we were looking at
1:41:07 how to do that and you know this is kind
1:41:10 of like a concept that we came up with
1:41:12 just to give you an idea of like you
1:41:14 know where we're at and you know one
1:41:16 thing I'll note is we didn't include all
1:41:18 the Sip off we didn't include some of
1:41:20 the neighborhoods and the reason is that
1:41:21 they're like like a lot with anything
1:41:23 maturity there's a big trade-off so if
1:41:26 you make an area too large it's really
1:41:28 going to degrade service for everyone
1:41:31 um or costs a lot more and so we really
1:41:33 have to balance where we're serving and
1:41:35 so we we're really focused on this walk
1:41:38 and tell us neighborhoods for this pilot
1:41:40 um but yeah that's where we are right
1:41:42 now and uh hopefully I didn't go too
1:41:43 long oh great
1:41:47 questions
1:41:51 that's right
1:41:54 how does it like work with the
1:41:57 partnership for its cause as far as
1:41:59 funding is it is it just like is it
1:42:02 Crossing green to it or is it was paying
1:42:04 for it
1:42:06 The Proposal would be that Issaquah
1:42:07 would like pay for the cost of the pilot
1:42:10 I don't know if you want something that
1:42:12 doesn't mean we shouldn't do it I just I
1:42:13 want to be oh no yeah we should be
1:42:15 straightforward with that yeah yeah and
1:42:17 we'll probably get deeper into that uh
1:42:19 next month but yes that that is the
1:42:21 current proposal it's paying for a van
1:42:24 is the careful how the other ones work
1:42:27 as well
1:42:28 um so the other one is not a partnership
1:42:30 it's kind of a pilot that we've had out
1:42:31 there for a while and Sammamish but
1:42:33 there is an efficiency of being adjacent
1:42:36 to the samundar stone
1:42:38 um in the sense that like
1:42:39 the vehicles can be shared so that
1:42:41 you're benefiting from like the part
1:42:43 that Metro is funding
1:42:44 um because the vehicles can share
1:42:46 between the zones so it's it's really
1:42:49 allowing people in support to go more
1:42:51 places and
1:42:53 it because it would be like you couldn't
1:42:55 just do the service with one vehicle you
1:42:58 you it would be more expensive to launch
1:43:00 the service if it were just an island
1:43:01 out here so because there's already an
1:43:04 investment that's part of the reason why
1:43:05 it's an attractive work you know
1:43:07 attractive place to like talk about this
1:43:09 kind of partnership
1:43:12 and you mentioned it there's no cash
1:43:16 uh like if you can't have a cash option
1:43:19 other
1:43:24 that's right yeah Transit Go ticket is
1:43:27 like an option where
1:43:28 yeah you can get an online ticket or use
1:43:30 your ORCA card
1:43:33 is one of the issues like in the eighth
1:43:36 aging populations in the neighborhoods
1:43:38 that are talking about
1:43:41 covering like technology
1:43:52 we always promote the calling often oh
1:43:56 okay so you don't have to use the app
1:43:57 you can use the telephone how would you
1:43:59 pay that sorry oh yeah that's right
1:44:03 visible card
1:44:05 like the orbit card
1:44:08 great questions for next time for sure
1:44:12 um okay so really quickly I wanted to
1:44:14 run through uh the transit survey that
1:44:17 we did
1:44:18 um so we did a Target survey of April uh
1:44:21 it was uh focused on Talus squawk old
1:44:24 town and Valley I think we
1:44:26 may have talked about now this is pretty
1:44:28 uh so we uh we ended up getting 416
1:44:32 responses which is really really good
1:44:34 for these neighborhoods
1:44:38 and eight of them were excluded because
1:44:40 they said I do not live one of these
1:44:42 four but so it's more like 408 responses
1:44:45 um and we got nine responses in Chinese
1:44:47 one in Spanish which is uh lower than
1:44:50 I'd like but still great that we've got
1:44:52 that back
1:44:54 um and there's those are the numbers so
1:44:55 it's obviously kind of heavy in Talus I
1:44:58 I think it's because I called the HOA
1:45:00 and they push some email out and all of
1:45:01 a sudden there's like this waterfall and
1:45:03 the responses which is great
1:45:05 Community but still got a solid amount
1:45:08 of people from Spock Mount which is
1:45:09 generally not a very responsible thing
1:45:11 right
1:45:13 um yeah
1:45:19 um so first of all we asked the question
1:45:21 uh how often do you write Transit before
1:45:24 covet basically and how much did you
1:45:27 write in the last three months obviously
1:45:30 uh that red never has expanded we kind
1:45:35 of we know that it's kind of what's
1:45:37 Happening people across the world
1:45:39 especially across the US so therefore
1:45:42 those other categories of once a month
1:45:44 once a week days most days it's really
1:45:46 kind of accordion for a lack of a better
1:45:50 um however
1:45:51 this is a really optimistic piece right
1:45:54 here because this is the question of uh
1:45:56 if Transit was located within a block of
1:45:58 you which
1:46:00 would be
1:46:01 uh how often like did you you do you
1:46:05 ride and would you write it and 50
1:46:09 almost 50 of respondents said I don't
1:46:11 use public transit right now but I would
1:46:13 if it were closer
1:46:15 um obviously there's that 32 percent of
1:46:17 do not and would not
1:46:19 um honestly that's a smaller number than
1:46:21 I expected so it's it's great and then
1:46:24 of course we have the I do with uh
1:46:30 and then I also wanted to share this
1:46:31 really quickly so this is a list of uh
1:46:33 we gave them this the responders this
1:46:36 map of kind of where would you where
1:46:38 would you want to go like and I think
1:46:40 they've got to choose up to three places
1:46:43 if I'm not mistaken
1:46:46 and the answers end up being uh
1:46:50 the most high uh the most the highest
1:46:54 answers were the transit center it's got
1:46:57 Commons that's where like us QFC is uh
1:47:00 nope that's that's wrong let's see that
1:47:02 would be a Trader Joe's Target in that
1:47:04 area and then downtown the squad
1:47:08 the second set of responses was the
1:47:11 State Park which is great that that's a
1:47:13 discussion we had with Metro State Park
1:47:15 wasn't initially uh a stop and we just
1:47:19 we asked them hey could it be a stop and
1:47:21 they say Yes
1:47:22 um and so we included that on the survey
1:47:25 ended up being a pretty high uh type of
1:47:28 access that people want uh Costco and
1:47:32 then the gunman Village
1:47:36 it's okay
1:47:38 and then other ones that are kind of
1:47:40 more than the 20 responses are kind of
1:47:43 everywhere else
1:47:45 Swedish Grand Plaza like Samana Center
1:47:48 shopping center
1:47:51 oh of course there's that obligatory 24
1:47:53 said I wouldn't go anywhere with this
1:47:58 so we are past 750 and so I don't think
1:48:02 we have time for questions uh today uh
1:48:05 but you have a couple of things to to go
1:48:08 through I want to thank Brian for coming
1:48:10 out in person tonight uh it's great for
1:48:15 Metro and uh yeah we've been working on
1:48:18 this for a while very excited to share
1:48:20 with you all so next next month we will
1:48:23 do a kind of a full hour deep dive into
1:48:26 the program is shaping up to be
1:48:28 especially over the next month we have
1:48:30 some more work to do
1:48:31 and uh we'll get to share what we're
1:48:34 thinking as well so yeah
1:48:38 thank you
1:48:39 all right yeah thanks a lot it's great
1:48:41 to be here
1:48:46 all right well again thank you Greg for
1:48:48 coming
1:48:49 um I think we'll move along to reports
1:48:52 and sounds like John has affordable plan
1:48:55 to go through it's guessing a staff
1:48:58 report
1:48:59 quick staff report to
1:49:04 students
1:49:12 so over the next
1:49:15 few months we have next month is uh more
1:49:19 more Metroplex very exciting to me
1:49:22 um I hope to you too and we're also
1:49:24 going to uh do a tab Refresher
1:49:30 course thing where you're still working
1:49:32 on exactly what that's going to look
1:49:34 um I think I have a meeting with Emily
1:49:36 in like a week to talk about it
1:49:38 um so I don't I don't have specifics
1:49:40 right now about what that's going to be
1:49:41 but we just want to kind of refresh you
1:49:44 on the mobility master plan and the comp
1:49:46 plan just kind of these important
1:49:48 documents thank you thanks uh important
1:49:52 documents that that are Central to the
1:49:55 work that we're doing with this board
1:49:57 uh July Thomas is going to be back I
1:50:00 hope you like him uh it's gonna be back
1:50:03 to talk about light rail planning and
1:50:04 Transit study
1:50:06 because he yes some policy questions
1:50:09 about that because that's
1:50:11 exciting speak for him that's really
1:50:13 such a huge kind of goal that we're
1:50:16 moving toward is you know how do we
1:50:18 reorient our our everything around you
1:50:22 know getting ready for light rail
1:50:24 and then August uh is to be determined
1:50:27 we're not exactly sure what it's going
1:50:29 to look like we're looking ahead at uh
1:50:32 issues that need to go before we believe
1:50:34 in infrastructure and Council uh
1:50:39 all months and there's not a lot that
1:50:42 we're aware at the moment so we're still
1:50:45 gonna we're gonna figure out exactly
1:50:46 what what August might be it could be a
1:50:49 month off we're not sure no promises but
1:50:53 um that is a possibility
1:50:55 um so that's my work plan update
1:51:03 what's that
1:51:06 do the staff report do you have a staff
1:51:09 report
1:51:10 um Andrea asked me to read
1:51:14 a statement here about Capital
1:51:17 Improvement
1:51:19 um she's here but she's I think
1:51:20 traveling so she's listening uh but she
1:51:23 sent this statement along because we've
1:51:25 committed to coming back to you with all
1:51:27 of our topics to let you know how things
1:51:29 are going
1:51:30 um so from from Andrea uh City Council
1:51:33 subcommittee on Mobility infrastructure
1:51:35 that on May 9th to discuss the capital
1:51:37 Improvement plan and transportation
1:51:39 Improvement plan they appreciated
1:51:41 hearing the feedback from tab about the
1:51:43 criteria process to form the CIP they
1:51:47 asked or they spent most of the
1:51:48 discussion on the transportation benefit
1:51:50 district sales tax of 0.1 they supported
1:51:54 the tax but are very interested in
1:51:56 seeing what public engagement plan will
1:51:58 be for the city council would be asked
1:52:00 to approve this tax this fall
1:52:02 committee also supports the use of these
1:52:04 funds to build the northwest of marriage
1:52:06 non-motorize Improvement projects and
1:52:08 intelligent Transportation its
1:52:10 improvements uh the mobile mobility and
1:52:13 infrastructure committee will be
1:52:14 providing this recommendation to the
1:52:16 full Council and their Committee of the
1:52:17 whole meeting on June 12th at that
1:52:20 meeting city council will convene for
1:52:22 the first time I'll discuss the entire
1:52:31 with that
1:52:32 a yield to the chair report if there is
1:52:34 I do not have a chair report
1:52:37 and we don't have a youth so we can't
1:52:39 have a youth report
1:52:43 so I do think we're down to item six
1:52:46 other business and announcements do you
1:52:48 have any of those
1:52:51 um so next month
1:52:53 as you know thank you for taking the
1:52:56 uh The Duda poll last month about when
1:53:00 we all could meet uh in June due to the
1:53:03 holiday that would have fallen on the
1:53:04 fourth Wednesday so we're gonna be
1:53:06 meeting on Monday June 26th I will
1:53:09 update the invite
1:53:12 and we will not be meeting here and I
1:53:15 will remind you several times throughout
1:53:16 the month uh we will be meeting at the
1:53:18 235 uh First Avenue building downtown in
1:53:22 the steelhead room and I will
1:53:25 you don't have to worry about
1:53:26 remembering that I just send it out to
1:53:27 you it's not council chambers it's like
1:53:30 adjacent at the beginning Center yeah
1:53:31 it's it's right next to the it's in
1:53:34 between Community Center and the pool
1:53:36 and it's Home Police tap the building
1:53:39 it's home to the teams walking in that
1:53:43 place so I walk by there
1:53:45 smell all those long sort of storage
1:53:48 building
1:53:51 this is a new one for me so I'm very
1:53:53 excited
1:53:54 just don't be too excellent
1:53:58 um so I will update the invite uh so and
1:54:01 and the location as well
1:54:04 um last month Erica you mentioned that
1:54:07 you were willing to attend the June
1:54:10 Mobility infrastructure okay yeah okay
1:54:13 are you still do you still want to do
1:54:15 that yeah
1:54:16 why not uh I think
1:54:19 I think it's Thomas going to he's not
1:54:21 here anymore
1:54:22 um I think maybe he's going with Transit
1:54:25 studying to Mi I need to check exactly
1:54:27 what the topic is yes yes
1:54:30 um Flex will not be because uh so we are
1:54:33 pushing the timeline the reason why
1:54:35 we're split into two we were going to do
1:54:37 this whole thing
1:54:39 today I think actually
1:54:42 um is uh our original timeline for
1:54:45 rolling out Flex if it got approved was
1:54:48 going to be August it's been pushed back
1:54:50 to October just logistically and so we
1:54:52 have a little bit more time
1:54:54 um so Flex will not be going to June
1:54:57 we'll be going to July we'll build an
1:54:58 infrastructure and the council in August
1:55:02 and that concludes my other business
1:55:05 announcements
1:55:07 well then
1:55:09 with no further Ado because nobody likes
1:55:13 to do I think we should adhere
1:55:25 I didn't know that until you talked even
1:55:27 all the power
1:55:30 um thank you thanks guys
1:55:33 I will stop recording
1:55:36 foreign