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Thursday, July 15, 2021

6:00 PM · 2h 0m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Transportation Improvement Program 4/10
Strategic Small Capital Projects AB 8803 1/3
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD Staff Liaison Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner About Email Stephen Padua Created in 2017, the board provides additional expertise and advice on the City's Regular Members transportation system and goals. The board is 2022 – Sujata Goel also the lead advisory group on the 2022 – Micah Zeitz-Chua implementation and management of the City’s 2023 – Kristi Tripple Master Mobility Plan (MMP). 2023 – Dave Waggoner 2023 – Joseph Zhang* Membership 2024 – Cynthia Krass The Transportation Advisory Board is 2024 – Janie Walzer comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2025 – Erika Boyd three alternates. All members are appointed 2025 – Tom McDonald by the Mayor and subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms expire April 30 of the Alternate Members year listed. For more information, 2022 – Jeri Bernstein see IMC 2.92 and Rules & Regulations. 2022…
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of June 17, 2021
packet pp.5–7
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 06-17-21 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting June 17, 2021 MINUTES
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Transportation Improvement Program
40 min · John Mortenson, Transportation Engineering Manager · packet pp.9–26
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
AGENDA ITEMS a) JOHN MORTENSON , TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING MANAGER
4b
Strategic Small Capital Projects
Discussion · 30 min · Isabel Diaz, Senior Transportation Engineer · packet pp.27–43
Staff report:
Strategic Small Capital Projects JULY 15, 2021 CITY OF ISSAQUAH TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD
4c
Transit Update
Information · 20 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.45–56
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
Flexible Transit Services
5. REPORTS
5a
Board Work Plan
packet pp.57
Staff report:
• Discuss transit system 1/21/21 • Transportation Improvement Program update introduction FEBRUARY AUGUST 2/4/21 • TIP / Mobility Master Plan project 8/19/21 • Transportation Improvement Program prioritization
5b
Staff Report
5c
Chair Report
5d
Youth Report
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
The next meeting is scheduled for 6:00 p.m. on August 19, 2021
0:48 i'm going to suggest we open the meeting
0:50 unless steven has
0:53 a suggestion otherwise um sujata will
0:58 not be
0:59 here um joseph janie
1:03 tom jerry looks like julian's
1:06 on um so i'm gonna suggest we open the
1:10 meeting and travis i'm gonna um
1:13 give you i guess i'm gonna say we should
1:16 do that in
1:17 after unless there's a chat let me see
1:19 what it says in the chat here
1:21 isabel is my right okay um
1:26 oh and there's tom okay um
1:30 well travis i will go ahead and in 10
1:32 seconds open the meeting unless they
1:34 hear otherwise
1:37 just a comment i'm going to turn my
1:38 video off while i finish my
1:47 okay so i'm opening the meeting this is
1:50 the july 15th
1:52 regular meeting of the issaquah
1:53 transportation advisory board my name is
1:55 cynthia cross i'm currently the
1:57 chair of the board and i'm opening the
2:00 meeting now
2:01 and our first item of business is to
2:03 approve
2:04 the minutes did everyone have a chance
2:06 to review the minutes that were
2:09 submitted with the materials
2:14 uh i don't see anybody that said no i
2:17 will
2:18 um i have oh sorry i have a question
2:21 about i think i'm counted as
2:22 an excused absence but i was present i
2:25 was just having some trouble logging on
2:27 so i don't know if that
2:28 needs to be changed it's like a really
2:30 it's just some small potatoes thing but
2:34 that's a great question um i'm gonna go
2:37 ahead and request the staff go ahead and
2:38 change that and just maybe put um
2:41 part-time technical difficulties or
2:43 something just i think it'd be good to
2:45 note her attendance it's like joseph's
2:48 here also
2:49 so that's great thank you thank you
2:52 all right so anybody uh all those in
2:55 favor of
2:56 improving the minutes say i or wave your
2:59 show me uh hi
3:03 sorry i just had something pop up on my
3:05 screen
3:06 that i did not ask for and it's covering
3:08 half of you there we go
3:09 okay i'm not seeing any opposed so i'm
3:11 gonna consider the minutes approved
3:13 um we see jerry now too great um
3:19 uh before we go on and i turn it over to
3:22 um the staff i'm just gonna say that
3:26 uh a couple of quick announcements there
3:28 was a really interesting
3:29 training for chairs of committees and
3:32 boards
3:32 it is a quad that mayor paulie put on
3:34 and um
3:35 i've just made a couple of really minor
3:37 changes but i thought she had some good
3:38 points and one of them is to recognize
3:40 alternates
3:41 so uh we will not have sujata tonight
3:44 um and so julian of the alternates
3:47 julian logged on first
3:49 so that means even though we're not
3:51 making any decisions tonight
3:52 if we were to make a decision that would
3:54 make julian um not an alternate but a
3:56 regular member for tonight
3:58 and um i think if we don't
4:01 see janie then that would make jerry
4:04 also a regular and of course discussion
4:06 is all um there is no distinction
4:09 between a just
4:10 an alternate and a regular for
4:12 discussion it would only be relevant if
4:13 we were voting
4:15 um so um i guess
4:18 i hadn't thought about what to do to
4:20 recognize an alternate if
4:21 i don't know if somebody who's delayed
4:23 is going to be joining us that would be
4:25 genie but
4:26 um if jenny doesn't join us i would put
4:29 jerry
4:29 uh into the regular category anyway um
4:32 i'd had a couple other minor comments
4:34 um about ways to encourage everyone
4:37 to speak and i'll just say now um
4:40 definitely i think we've been doing a
4:41 good job using the chat when you have
4:42 something to say it's best not to put
4:44 um your substance in the chat because it
4:47 doesn't get
4:48 uh recorded in the same way and i will
4:50 use the chat to call on people
4:52 but i reserve the right to um change the
4:54 order
4:56 the default would be by uh calling
4:57 people in order in the chat
4:59 but i would change that up if i feel
5:01 like we need to hear
5:02 from some people we hadn't heard from um
5:04 and with that i will go ahead and
5:06 turn it over to staff for the first
5:09 let's see i'm just
5:10 toggling over to my oh i'm sorry public
5:13 comment um do we have any public comment
5:15 this evening it looks like we do have
5:16 one
5:16 visitor i think connie marsh is on here
5:21 keep that from popping up um
5:25 okay okay uh
5:28 i do want to speak i see i'm off off me
5:32 but i have video that's all right
5:35 can you hear me i can hear you nothing
5:39 okay good so my name is connors and um
5:43 i'm to the tour of projects
5:46 shortly for the title
5:49 18 update so i'm gonna be fast
5:53 as usual and uh you can file
5:57 these in the agenda order if you
6:00 remember
6:01 now i don't understand an update from
6:03 mayor college
6:04 uh i heard that in another is that
6:08 audience com needn't be responded to
6:13 but for a community member who speaks
6:15 that sort of puts comments into a void
6:18 that you never hear any feed con and so
6:22 that's frustrating i
6:23 know what a person is supposed to do if
6:26 they spend
6:27 their commenting and it's never it's
6:29 just like goes away
6:31 i mean sort of like what the point so i
6:32 didn't really understand that part of
6:34 the
6:35 leadership update now to begin so
6:39 um i see that this talks about man-made
6:43 projects but uh
6:47 i feel like concurrency
6:50 requirements have created a different
6:54 list of mandated
6:55 across especially as it pertains to this
6:58 the sentencing
6:59 can and so i see there's an
7:03 item for future projects but
7:06 i don't understand if these mandated
7:08 interior
7:09 projects from the centralisation
7:12 environmental
7:12 impact that's the only only reason we do
7:15 it is we
7:16 said we would do these projects i'm not
7:18 sure that you have ever
7:20 had a discussion of what it
7:23 means to have a bunch of
7:27 extensive projects be mended in order
7:31 to build up the town exactly what the
7:33 projects are
7:35 i hope i'm just speaking gibberish
7:39 okay so i am going to hop
7:43 forward in the gaps conversation
7:48 i i s the little match you're supposed
7:51 to be using to
7:52 understand where the city shows gaps
7:56 i think i think a super greed and then
7:58 went to see if there were corresponding
8:01 projects
8:02 for those gaps
8:05 and i was unable to match
8:08 the potential list of projects with the
8:12 gaps and so when i'm trying to figure
8:14 out
8:15 which gaps we should fill
8:19 and i have sort of a memory of it but i
8:21 found that very hard
8:23 uh and i can't i can't imagine anybody
8:25 else to do that
8:27 successfully easily so if there could be
8:30 a map
8:30 of the project and then then a
8:32 discussion of of whether a
8:34 new project okay
8:37 probably um and then i want to emphasize
8:42 again
8:42 that the lane language shows us
8:46 for foreign products not
8:49 prioritized it is just sort of
8:52 slightly different styles projects
8:55 right now it's one three four so feels
8:59 prioritized
9:00 and um so i just wanted to remind you
9:03 of that and then i send an email which i
9:06 assume that you've got um
9:12 the question
9:16 is can little red lines that are the
9:20 gaps on the map he broke up and down
9:23 into easier to manage projects that can
9:27 have
9:28 impact he seemed to have been fed like
9:30 from the
9:31 walk-and-roll plan to large projects
9:34 like the um
9:36 the mountain drive project where there
9:39 basically no sidewalk on nightly walk
9:41 road and it's a big safety issue
9:44 some people's only pathway to a park is
9:47 not connecting
9:48 a safety issue somehow in your list
9:51 and uh in the walking plan they said it
9:54 was a six
9:54 million dollar pride because they wanted
9:57 to do bike
9:58 lanes on both sides as i recall
10:01 really the main safety issue is just to
10:04 people to walk safely their neighborhood
10:08 road now the only way to walk safely is
10:10 the short shortcut a cemetery
10:12 which the park steps to park doesn't
10:14 like and so
10:16 as the example and that project broken
10:20 down to something way smaller to address
10:23 a large neighborhood safety concern and
10:26 i would like to understand
10:28 um how that type of a good conversation
10:31 for a myriad of those projects that's on
10:34 red squiggly
10:36 map and then
10:41 that's it look at that i hope that was
10:44 too horrifying and enjoy eating i am
10:47 going to go walk in sunshine
10:49 bye y'all thank you connie
10:55 okay any other public comment
10:59 and it would isabelle have the
11:02 um list i don't think we have um
11:05 access to the non-panelists
11:08 i don't see anyone else
11:12 joining in okay well when we get back
11:15 together in person in september it'll be
11:16 a lot easier to see if there's people i
11:18 want to speak and we won't have to rely
11:19 on technology
11:20 and i um i want to just acknowledge that
11:24 it was
11:24 um challenging to follow because um
11:28 the um connie was definitely breaking up
11:31 and we were struggling a little bit with
11:32 that
11:33 um also try to remember to remind public
11:36 commenters that
11:37 we have chosen for this board to limit
11:39 comments to three minutes
11:41 um anyway uh so now we're moving on to
11:44 regular business um it looks like
11:47 steven is up um for the tip
11:51 um unless i'm looking at the wrong well
11:54 that that's
11:55 actually john sorry i am looking at the
11:58 la the wrong i
11:59 call up another agenda
12:03 [Music]
12:05 anyway right thank you
12:16 thank you very much and
12:20 stephen or isabel or one of you able to
12:23 make it so i can share my screen
12:35 that working no
12:38 it's not oh wait there it goes
12:42 perfect lower point
12:46 b2 there
12:58 can everyone see my presentation
13:01 wonderful good evening everyone i'm john
13:04 mortensen transportation engineering
13:06 manager
13:07 and the tab is working through reviewing
13:10 the
13:11 projects in the transportation
13:13 improvement program
13:14 and this presentation kind of kicks off
13:17 that process
13:19 the overview for or the agenda for this
13:22 presentation
13:24 are to give an overview of the tip
13:26 process
13:27 or the transportation improvement
13:29 program process that we go through
13:31 and to talk about the projects and
13:34 tonight we'll talk about the projects
13:35 that we just
13:36 put into the bucket of annual or
13:38 mandated projects that we're going to
13:41 review
13:44 every year the city has puts together a
13:47 six-year transportation improvement
13:49 program
13:50 and as part of that
13:54 we look at projects that we do every
13:56 year like the
13:58 pavement management program and in the
14:02 mobility master plan it talked about how
14:05 we would continue with projects that are
14:07 underway
14:08 we had another bucket that we called
14:10 mandated projects and
14:13 for that bucket we really were looking
14:16 projects that from a safety or
14:19 legal point of view we need to do
14:22 whether it's
14:22 upgrading the curb ramps in the city as
14:24 part of the ada
14:26 improvements project or
14:29 replacing the black nugget wall as a
14:31 safety
14:32 and then we also have the new priority
14:35 projects
14:37 that as part of the mobility master plan
14:41 we identified projects that are new
14:44 priorities
14:45 and these could be existing projects
14:47 that are have a higher priority now
14:49 or it could be new projects that were
14:52 identified in the mobility master plan
14:56 this process began last month when we
14:59 talked about
15:00 the newport way maple to sunset project
15:03 as a project underway to talk
15:05 and we discussed the undergrounding of
15:08 overhead utilities gave an
15:10 overview of the project and talked about
15:12 the retaining wall requirements in
15:14 central esqua
15:16 this month as i mentioned we're working
15:18 on the mandated and annual projects
15:22 next month we'll talk about the future
15:24 year projects
15:25 which in a lot of ways is a good time to
15:28 talk about those projects that are also
15:31 required by the environmental approval
15:34 for centralized law that
15:37 connie commented on that those are
15:39 projects that
15:40 we are aware of that they do need to get
15:42 built as part of the build out for
15:44 centralistic law
15:45 and in september we'll continue the
15:48 discussion
15:49 and we're going to hold opportunity in
15:52 october in case we need to
15:54 continue the discussion then
15:59 for the projects that we classified as
16:01 annual or mandated
16:04 we're not going to talk about doing any
16:06 changes to the pavement management
16:08 program or the concrete maintenance
16:10 program
16:11 that those ones are follow
16:14 a lot more of a data driven program
16:18 where the concrete maintenance program
16:21 will work on upgrading the curb ramps as
16:24 part of the pavement management program
16:26 and also takes care of the high edges on
16:29 our sidewalks throughout the community
16:32 the pavement management program that
16:35 looks at data
16:36 for the condition of the pavement and
16:38 the recommended time
16:39 to do a treatment and
16:42 for example pretty soon in the city
16:45 there's going to be a contractor doing
16:46 some crack billing
16:48 and then later on this year another
16:50 contractor will be doing some overlays
16:53 tonight we're going to talk about the a
16:56 new project for the city it's called the
16:58 strategic small capital
17:00 project this is a project that came out
17:03 of the city's strategic plan
17:05 the city's strategic plan one of the
17:09 things that came out of it is
17:10 a lot of times we'll have these big
17:12 expensive ambitious
17:14 projects but the community has a strong
17:16 desire
17:17 to make improvements
17:20 that make a big difference whether it's
17:23 a sidewalk gap
17:24 or improving a crossing or making some
17:27 safety improvements
17:29 another one of the mandated or annual
17:32 projects is the ada improvements project
17:35 and this is one that we don't have
17:37 budget for this year
17:39 but next year we're going to be doing a
17:41 lot of work on the
17:42 ada improvements we've got the project
17:46 and we're going to do some work on our
17:48 ada transition plan
17:50 and then for bridge repairs and slide
17:53 repairs
17:54 we're not going to change those projects
17:55 because those are more driven by
17:58 maintaining the city's assets and
18:02 safety
18:05 for the transportation improvement
18:07 program
18:08 process that we're going through with
18:10 the board
18:11 timing and next steps
18:14 next month we're going to talk about the
18:17 future projects and that's one that i'm
18:21 really looking forward to because i
18:22 think there's
18:23 some really good conversations and
18:25 feedback and
18:27 that we can get from the board next
18:29 month
18:30 for the process to update the tip next
18:33 year because the
18:35 2022 to 2027 tip has been approved
18:41 in february we'll meet again with the
18:43 board
18:44 we'll review the transportation
18:47 improvement program
18:50 get the board's feedback on
18:51 recommendations and then work with
18:53 council to get the
18:56 the tip adopted again next year
19:00 and that concludes my presentation
19:15 so i assume john that you're ready to
19:16 take questions
19:18 yes um go ahead and put um
19:24 is my chat functioning properly um
19:27 does anybody have any questions looks
19:29 like julian
19:30 um has a hand up uh am i missing uh
19:34 it's yeah i don't know where to put the
19:36 hand up uh
19:37 thing no um actually i prefer to you to
19:40 put it in the chat
19:41 i just was not seeing anything in the
19:43 chat
19:44 and i want to make sure i wasn't missing
19:46 i was seeing some other earlier chats
19:48 um tom has a question um
19:51 and i think julian had his hand up
19:54 uh julian why don't you go first and
19:56 then tom
19:58 and then julian just tell me for my own
19:59 technical keeping up did you
20:01 put anything in the chat or just i just
20:03 saw your hands
20:06 um yeah that's fine um i do prefer the
20:10 chat just because it's easy for me to
20:11 track but
20:12 that's fine you go ahead go ahead julian
20:14 so uh john clarifying question
20:16 does the pavement slash concrete
20:19 maintenance also include
20:21 structural repairs of the road you know
20:23 the base issues that
20:26 these roads have
20:30 sort of as part of the pavement
20:32 management program
20:34 they'll do full depth pavement repairs
20:36 but if a road gets
20:38 to a point where it's really bad
20:41 it's best to just rebuild it and have a
20:44 separate project
20:45 instead of trying to incorporate into a
20:48 smaller project that
20:49 tries to mostly do overlays so that
20:53 i guess to answer your question there's
20:55 a line at some point where the pavement
20:57 management program would take care of it
20:59 and once the roadway condition gets
21:03 bad enough then you'd want to have a
21:04 full reconstruction of the road
21:07 and this would presumably not just fit
21:09 into small capital
21:10 projects or can you say that again
21:14 i need to put my headphones on a little
21:16 better
21:17 this would fit into small capital
21:20 projects
21:20 or you know what we're talking about
21:22 today
21:26 are you for your question are you
21:29 talking
21:30 still about the pavement management
21:31 stuff or like if it needed to be
21:34 rebuilt or you just yeah it's a new
21:36 general built it's a need
21:38 then that wouldn't be the small capital
21:40 project it would be
21:42 its own capital project and
21:56 tom sorry it's okay i just want to make
22:00 sure that uh
22:01 that so uh
22:04 i think what i hear is you know once it
22:06 becomes beyond the
22:08 payment rehab is basically becomes its
22:09 own project and it becomes a more of a
22:11 capital project as opposed to the
22:13 the annual or mandated projects
22:17 and the question is for today for a
22:19 purpose of today are we going to look at
22:21 any of these
22:22 annual or mandated to have any blessing
22:26 on those or a concurrence on those or
22:28 that or moral sleep just just to kind of
22:30 prepare us of the
22:33 step in the process
22:37 um my headphones were kind of quiet can
22:39 you repeat the question
22:42 sure um um i think i guess my question
22:45 for today
22:46 for today's meeting you know we're
22:47 talking about the annual mandated
22:49 projects
22:50 is it anything that we're going to look
22:51 at and review and
22:53 give concurrence or have questions on or
22:55 is that this kind of more of update that
22:57 uh that those are just ongoing
23:01 more of just an update that those are
23:03 ongoing that
23:04 tonight's big discussion to get the tabs
23:07 feedback is for prioritizing
23:10 small improvements as part of the small
23:12 strategic capital project
23:19 and that's part of the tip project
23:21 review coming up in
23:24 yeah it's a small strategic capital it's
23:27 it's it's own project but it's a project
23:30 that has a lot of flexibility
23:32 where it doesn't have a defined
23:35 location it's to go throughout the city
23:38 where there's need
23:40 which is why we're really wanting the
23:42 feedback from the tab because
23:44 i think you guys have a good deal for
23:46 where we should prioritize the
23:48 money in that project that's my other
23:50 question is there's a list of projects
23:51 and we'd look at
23:52 would help prioritize which one should
23:54 be done first which ones are more
23:55 critical
23:55 okay yes i'm good
23:59 thanks
24:03 so i'm not saying any other questions
24:04 but i think part of it is because i'm
24:06 not hearing
24:07 the staff asking us to weigh in about i
24:10 mean the
24:11 the document that's a table of six is
24:13 pretty straightforward
24:15 and then the time dedicated um
24:18 after we hear from isabel for the small
24:21 capital project
24:22 is essentially one of the projects on
24:24 that table i myself
24:26 spend a lot of time trying to sort
24:27 through and figure out you know what i'm
24:28 looking at and what i'm being asked to
24:29 respond to
24:30 so um i
24:34 had a discussion and i should be
24:37 not asking this question because i
24:39 already met with staff about this but
24:41 now i'm trying to figure out why we
24:42 dedicated 40 minutes
24:43 to this part of the meeting and i was
24:46 getting confused so i guess my question
24:47 is to either isabel or
24:49 john um it sounded like you didn't need
24:53 any more for us
24:53 on 4a but help remind me why we
24:57 dedicated 40 minutes to 4a it may have
24:59 been because i thought we were
25:00 people would probably just have a
25:02 tendency to want to chew on some of that
25:03 stuff a little bit
25:05 um but that's not really where we're
25:07 directing the
25:08 tabs attention so maybe
25:11 um if we if we want somebody can remind
25:14 one of you can remind me
25:16 why we dedicated all that time and if
25:18 you've gotten what you need on 4a
25:23 cynthia uh we just missed to update the
25:25 agenda when we first
25:27 discussed uh the items on the agenda
25:29 this was going to be
25:31 a discussion item but then uh as we
25:34 prepare for this meeting
25:35 uh we changed it to be an
25:38 informational item okay
25:42 so we probably didn't need 40 minutes
25:43 i'm not missing something i just kept
25:45 thinking i was missing a big piece of
25:46 content um but it sounds like we just
25:48 yeah i didn't catch that so it sounds
25:50 like
25:51 um uh so maybe you can just before we
25:54 move on
25:55 tell us there is that
25:59 um appendix b future year projects
26:03 um and i'm sure like most of us
26:09 i spent a little time just looking
26:11 through it and understanding it a lot of
26:12 these are familiar
26:13 um maybe just wrap up by telling us kind
26:16 of what we should be doing in our minds
26:18 with those projects
26:19 that's what we're going to be talking
26:20 about in the future
26:24 for the for the 2022 tip
26:33 i'm going to make sure i'm looking at
26:35 the so to make sure i understand
26:37 when peop when i get materials
26:41 sent to me and i probably should have
26:43 asked you this before this meeting but
26:45 um there's a lot of substance in there
26:47 and i think all of us on the tab are
26:49 wondering like are we supposed to
26:50 discuss that later like do you want any
26:53 you know we haven't taken the time to go
26:55 through the future projects and so
26:56 i want to make sure i understand why you
26:58 included them in the
27:01 materials to go out to the tab because i
27:03 don't want us to miss anything
27:05 or opportunities to discuss or share
27:07 feedback
27:11 yeah my comment that i was just posting
27:14 is uh
27:16 any questions that people might have on
27:18 the 4a a and four a b
27:21 mandate projects in the approved tip
27:24 projects
27:27 but that's those two tables are just
27:29 both for our information if there's
27:30 anybody that has questions on those
27:34 well i think isabel is going to give a
27:35 presentation about this
27:38 small capital project specifically i was
27:41 just trying to
27:41 figure out what we're supposed to be
27:43 right um right
27:45 now i thought i'm sorry she's going to
27:48 give a presentation on 4b
27:49 which is a subset of the overall
27:52 um projects in 4a
27:56 i'm struggling a little bit with what
27:57 i'm supposed to be doing with that
27:59 list of future projects at this time or
28:02 right or four no not four b no
28:06 it's in four a it's in the materials for
28:08 four a right
28:09 i call that b because it's there's an a
28:11 tip and then the b is 20 22 27 that's
28:13 what i'm calling for i'm sorry
28:14 the
28:21 lowercase a is is the first agenda item
28:25 and there are two uppercase a
28:28 attachments to 4a
28:30 that's where the confusion so
28:34 i'm going to let john answer my question
28:37 sure so is the i want to make sure maybe
28:40 i'll just
28:40 share my slide or screen to make sure
28:43 i'm looking at the
28:45 right materials this oops sure
28:49 is this the one you're asking about no
28:51 i'm asking about the next one
28:53 the next one which is for a b
28:56 or tom's right
29:02 yep right there
29:07 oh okay there we go so that
29:10 is here let me stop sharing my screen
29:14 just more of a a reference as we keep
29:17 going through this
29:18 that way we can have kind of as
29:22 uh to show that way people can be
29:25 familiar for each meeting
29:27 about the complete list of the projects
29:30 and to give the tab the opportunity to
29:33 get familiar with stuff
29:35 and give them more time to prepare for
29:36 the discussions coming up ahead
29:39 okay i thought so i just wanted to make
29:41 sure
29:43 and um i will just make one
29:46 small request and that's just make sure
29:48 the headings i i spent
29:50 a bunch of time because i kept trying to
29:52 jot make everything jive and make sure i
29:54 understood
29:55 and it took me a while to figure out
29:57 just to be to attach the
30:00 the titles and the appendices and like
30:03 just be
30:04 make it maybe it's just a tiny bit more
30:05 idiot proof yeah i mean that might be
30:09 kind of what you're saying but that
30:11 might be like a
30:12 for d and just additional information or
30:16 you can but i thought it was part of the
30:20 initial presentation that's why i was
30:23 asking what we were supposed to do with
30:24 this additional information
30:28 i didn't understand why it was in the
30:30 section 4a
30:34 but really is really just
30:37 kind of information just for upcoming
30:40 projects to keep in mind
30:44 at the risk of beating this to death i
30:46 just want to just point out that
30:47 if you look at the memo it says
30:49 attachments and it says a
30:51 and then there's a title and then and
30:54 especially b
30:54 and then there's a title um
30:58 it's not they don't always jive so we
31:00 just want to tighten that up
31:02 a little bit um oh thanks for the
31:05 feedback we'll
31:06 work on trying to make it more clear for
31:08 next time i know you guys work really
31:10 hard to make it clear
31:11 um i think we're really close but uh
31:13 just
31:14 attachment numbers titles make sure
31:17 things reference each
31:18 other so we just we know where to direct
31:19 our attention
31:21 very good feedback because for a lot of
31:23 times it makes complete sense to us
31:25 and then yes that you guys are the true
31:27 test and
31:29 thank you yes all right so we've beat
31:31 that one pretty good let's go ahead and
31:33 move on
31:34 to agenda item for
31:37 a b sorry for b for
31:40 b unless um anybody had any other
31:44 questions
31:46 seeing none go ahead
31:50 okay enough writer
31:54 share my screen
31:57 depend would you me the ability to share
32:01 my screen
32:13 all right
32:19 can you see the beginning of the
32:23 presentation
32:25 can you hear me well yes good
32:28 okay let me know if i need to
32:32 speak uh louder um
32:36 so okay so i am isabelle
32:39 uh i will be speaking about the
32:41 strategic small
32:42 capital projects
32:47 right so as john explained earlier in
32:50 this
32:50 year transportation improvement program
32:53 projects have been
32:54 classified into five categories there's
32:57 the annual
32:58 projects projects underway mandated
33:01 responsibilities
33:02 new priority projects and long-term
33:05 projects
33:06 we may recall that annual projects are
33:09 those that meet the requirements to be
33:11 funded by a program
33:15 these strategic small capitals projects
33:18 is a new annual
33:21 capital improvement program that
33:22 strategically designs and construct
33:25 small capital improvements the purpose
33:27 of this program is to complete near-term
33:29 connections and efficiencies in the
33:31 mobility system
33:33 consistent with the strategic plan
33:35 mobility goals and objectives
33:37 the project this project focuses on
33:40 addressing gaps in the mobility system
33:42 and implementing
33:43 small safety improvements
33:48 as a result from previous discussed
33:51 discussions we have
33:52 received feedback from the board in
33:55 about prioritizing new network gaps
33:59 connectivity safety and to incorporate
34:02 equity
34:03 in the strategic strategic small capital
34:06 projects list
34:07 the board identified the need to dive
34:11 to to provide diversity on in terms of
34:14 project types and size
34:16 and would support the allocation of more
34:18 funding towards implementation
34:20 of smaller projects after having
34:22 evaluated those
34:24 with network gaps identified in the
34:26 mobility master plan
34:31 the mobility master plan identifies no
34:34 walking policies categorized
34:36 into four tiers so tier one
34:39 includes enhanced pedestrian facilities
34:42 on both sides of the roads for arterials
34:44 and collectors
34:45 inside central issaquah old town
34:49 and issaquah highlands neighborhoods
34:52 tier 2
34:53 includes standard sidewalks on both
34:55 sides of the streets
34:57 inside the streets that are within one
35:00 quarter of a mile of schools senior
35:03 centers
35:04 and public and public community
35:07 amenities
35:08 such as hospitals and transit centers
35:13 also for those local streets that are
35:16 inside central issaquah old town and
35:18 issaquah highlands
35:20 so trt tier 3 includes standard
35:23 sidewalks on one side of arterials
35:26 and collectors that are outside of
35:29 central
35:30 issaquah oldtown and issaquah highlands
35:33 and tier four include to lower speed
35:36 limits to 20 miles per hour or less
35:38 on local streets including commercial
35:41 areas outside of central issaquah old
35:44 town
35:45 and issaquah highlands it's important
35:47 that we note
35:48 that these these tiers although they are
35:51 categorized
35:52 by numbers we are not implying any
35:56 type of priority or ranking systems with
36:00 these tiers it's just a way to
36:01 kind of group those policies together
36:09 um okay i know this map may be a little
36:12 bit difficult to see
36:14 through the presentation um but you have
36:16 those mater on your on your
36:19 um agenda materials this map is included
36:22 in the
36:22 mobility master plan to identify the
36:24 projects by tier
36:26 which we could use as a guidance for
36:28 strategic ball capital projects list
36:31 to tier 1 projects we can tell right
36:35 away that tier 1 projects would not be
36:37 easy
36:38 nor cheap to construct and there is
36:41 basically a reason
36:42 why um uh
36:45 they they they are included on this list
36:48 gaps and and often those would include
36:52 uh critical areas prevented
36:54 that would prevent those sidewalks from
36:56 getting built uh
36:57 as as we can see in the blue for tier
37:00 one projects
37:01 uh actually i'm sorry so now christy has
37:05 a question and i have a feeling she was
37:07 um maybe a clarifying thing to answer at
37:09 this time i'm going to
37:10 hazard a guess yes i don't see the
37:13 the the comments she's going to tell me
37:15 no no no it's okay she sent it to me
37:18 hey isabel i don't know if this is the
37:20 right time in your presentation
37:22 so i apologize for interrupting
37:25 um i'm curious and and again this it
37:28 might be
37:29 too far in the detail in the details
37:33 but in terms of a tier one project and i
37:36 know you just talked about
37:37 critical areas being a level difficulty
37:40 17th avenue northwest being labeled as a
37:44 tier one um
37:49 i wanted to how do i want to say this i
37:52 was a little taken aback
37:53 given the large um pedestrian bridge
37:57 just to the west on that same road
38:01 and the huge investment with that and
38:03 then also knowing that there's another
38:06 pedestrian bike crossing
38:08 that event that is on the park strategic
38:11 plan but also on the tip is the future
38:14 plan
38:14 for a crossing at that location as well
38:17 so it seems like
38:18 a pretty large investment so i'm
38:20 wondering is there a policy in the mmp
38:22 to address those kinds of conflicts
38:25 potentially
38:27 does that make sense well yes uh if you
38:31 could
38:32 clarify your question about the policy
38:34 so the reason if
38:35 just to help you uh with the reason why
38:38 these are identified as tier one
38:40 is because we don't have sidewalk on
38:42 both sides of the street we do have
38:44 on one side um the pedestrian connection
38:48 um but we don't have on the east side of
38:50 that area we don't have any
38:52 uh pedestrian facilities and if you
38:56 could help uh
38:57 sure sure so i'll take that one one step
39:00 level
39:01 so in situations where there is um
39:05 a bridge per se and then also
39:08 nearby local connectivity is part of the
39:11 network
39:13 and there's potentially huge conflicts
39:16 with the um on on-ramp and the off-ramp
39:21 right there at that location on the east
39:23 side
39:26 it seems that that project is um
39:29 too much so i'm wondering is there a
39:32 policy that allows
39:33 for um that not to happen in a tier one
39:38 when there's
39:38 a conflict um
39:44 can i suggest this is cynthia can i
39:46 suggest we put a pin in that because i
39:48 had a similar
39:48 uh reaction if i'm reading it correctly
39:51 to the highlands because there's that
39:53 pedestrian facility that gets you down
39:55 the hill and i'm wondering if um
39:58 we should put a pin in that note that
40:00 unless you smell you want to answer the
40:02 question
40:02 um but i think it's pointing out a
40:05 broader
40:06 um question which is like where are we
40:10 exactly with um
40:14 yeah with this because um that may not
40:17 be the only situation
40:18 and so there may be the need to enhance
40:22 what we put in the mmp with some
40:24 interpretation
40:26 um or some qualifiers and i also had a
40:30 comment about something that maybe
40:32 was an interpretation of what we put in
40:33 the mmp regarding
40:35 the sidewalk tiers and the mmp policy
40:37 4.1 that that
40:39 came from so um
40:43 would it be okay christie if we put a
40:44 pin in that and and then um
40:46 came back and figure out the best way to
40:47 discuss it is that okay isabel
40:49 yes okay
40:58 sorry we got you off your groove you
41:00 gotta the screen's not up on our screen
41:02 anymore
41:03 the presentation is no longer
41:12 can you see the presentation yep now we
41:15 can
41:15 okay so okay so first of all let me just
41:20 uh clarify um so these are the
41:23 tiers identified in the mobility master
41:26 plan
41:26 and and we are using this as a guideline
41:30 to include some projects if we may on
41:34 the
41:35 strategic small capitals project list uh
41:39 with us as cynthia and christy had
41:42 mentioned before
41:44 yes you are right about like uh the tier
41:47 one projects
41:48 seem like too much to do uh they are
41:51 and particularly because those are will
41:54 be including
41:55 sidewalks on both sides of the road
41:57 there is a
41:59 huge uh critical uh there are some of
42:01 them most of them has
42:02 critical areas and those are also um
42:06 con arterials and collectors roads
42:10 um see i can go
42:13 uh so i'm sorry
42:18 so um as we can also see the highest
42:20 volume of the projects are in tier
42:23 two uh which are those identified in the
42:27 magenta color and it's basically because
42:30 those
42:31 are projects that would include all
42:34 other
42:35 all local roads inside central issaquah
42:38 old town and issaquah highlands and also
42:41 those in proximity is to sensitive
42:44 locations like school
42:46 close to schools and and senior
42:48 communities
42:49 and community centers
42:53 from among all these neighborhoods
42:56 we could say that central isa issaqua
42:59 would be more expensive to construct
43:01 since we'll need to also include planner
43:03 strips
43:04 that's part of our standards to build
43:08 inside issaquah
43:09 along with the construction of sidewalks
43:11 we will need to
43:12 build planner strips as well
43:16 so tier 3 includes a few projects you
43:20 can see
43:21 here on sr 900 all the way
43:25 and there's also a few gaps in
43:28 brown street and inside um
43:32 old town neighborhood as well
43:36 so uh tier four is not on this map
43:40 and that's basically because uh lowering
43:42 speed limits would involve
43:44 changes to our code so it's not uh
43:48 in particular to specific locations
43:58 we have also identified a list of
44:00 relatively
44:01 easy to implement strategic safety
44:04 improvement projects with the purpose of
44:06 addressing
44:07 those needs that are not covered with
44:10 existing programs
44:11 and without having to uh
44:15 to uh invest like significant
44:19 cost uh investments using and
44:23 and with using our existing staff um
44:26 so we have identified four of these
44:28 projects and i would like to
44:31 uh note that we have done a change on
44:34 this slide um
44:36 and we have because we removed uh the
44:38 highlands drive and discovery
44:40 drives top line project as we um
44:43 confirmed with public works operations
44:46 that that project in particular was
44:48 already completed
44:49 so we deleted that uh project from this
44:51 list
44:52 which size it down to four
44:55 projects inside this this list
44:59 so one of the projects is the city hall
45:01 ada
45:02 route and this project is to clearly
45:05 identify ada routes
45:07 and mitigate high edges within city hall
45:11 lot the next project will be
45:14 park drive and park drive crosswalk
45:17 improvements
45:18 this one is to eliminate parking areas
45:21 that are blocking pedestrian crosswalks
45:23 along park drive as you can see in the
45:26 picture
45:27 or you might not be able to see it
45:31 believe it or not
45:32 behind that minivan there is a crosswalk
45:35 so you can see that it's a potential
45:36 hazard to
45:38 pedestrians using that crosswall
45:46 25th avenue and cube would place
45:49 pedestrian crossing
45:51 uh project in issaquah highlands is to
45:54 improve the crossing at the end of
45:56 kirkwood winner as you can see in this
46:00 picture here there is a
46:03 pedestrian ramp right in the middle of
46:06 the entrance
46:07 of that water so what we would
46:10 like to pursue with this project would
46:14 uh possibly relocating that crosswalk
46:18 even a few feet away from
46:22 from the entrance of the winner would
46:24 would help with
46:25 um with the pedestrian
46:28 routes
46:32 eastlake samamish parkway and southeast
46:34 56th
46:36 no right led
46:39 sign this is to install this type of
46:42 signs that we
46:43 see on on the slide this is to install
46:47 an alright turn
46:48 led blank out signs for is like some
46:51 amish parkway going southbound
46:53 and southeast 56 going eastbound
46:56 to prohibit motorists from turning right
46:59 when crossing
47:00 well when the crossing signal for the
47:03 trail for the east lakes and amsterdam
47:05 is on and this would provide
47:08 this would minimize the pedestrian
47:10 vehicle
47:11 conflicts so
47:14 um these type of projects since those
47:18 projects will uh basically be done
47:21 in-house uh the main cost for this
47:24 project would be for materials
47:26 and the cost for each one would range
47:30 between
47:30 five uh two fifteen uh thousand dollars
47:34 and if we were to implement all of the
47:36 projects we can
47:38 think that uh the cost for
47:41 for all these all these four projects
47:44 specifically could range between 25 and
47:47 30 thousand dollars
47:51 i see there is a question
47:55 or a comment in the chat box
47:58 is now a good time do because should we
48:00 open up the questions
48:02 yeah i i put in the point i'll ask them
48:05 and
48:06 comment after the presentation yeah i
48:08 was just wondering isabelle are you
48:10 ready for that or do you want to
48:12 continue it
48:13 well if there's a question now we uh we
48:16 will provide an opportunity for your
48:18 feedback if that's
48:20 the best timing for you but if you have
48:22 any questions about the slides that we
48:24 are presenting or any project in
48:26 particular
48:26 yeah feel free to uh
48:30 to provide that question at the time
48:34 go ahead julian okay well
48:37 i guess i had a question about the east
48:40 lake smamish
48:41 southeast 56. um
48:44 i'm in chicago right now and i've been
48:46 observing a ton of these
48:49 various lights they always the
48:51 pedestrian lights
48:52 always turn on i don't know five seconds
48:55 before
48:56 the general traffic lights turn on to
48:59 green
49:01 would that be something possible to
49:04 incorporate with this
49:05 uh no right led side project
49:10 i know that we uh there has been
49:12 discussion
49:13 and it does i i don't have the name for
49:16 that
49:17 right now but there has been discussions
49:20 about uh the possibility of of including
49:23 this but we have we there will be
49:26 something like
49:26 really new for us um but that's
49:29 something that we can certainly
49:31 evaluate um
49:37 because this sort of project would
49:39 definitely enhance
49:40 um safety on that on that crossblock it
49:43 always seems very risky
49:45 you always have to wait for cars and um
49:49 and that does help to uh make sure we
49:52 start providing the pedestrian enough
49:53 time to cross and
49:55 and why is always
49:58 like stay red for the traffic and give
50:00 the pedestrians a chance to start
50:02 walking before it
50:02 turns and that way they're already here
50:05 in the crosswalk and the way
50:08 the light turns is that what the delay
50:11 does
50:13 i'm i'm sorry tom uh oh no there's a
50:15 question for julian
50:16 as far as what he's different in chicago
50:18 does that give him a chance to be
50:20 walking across the
50:21 sidewalk before the green light with
50:23 vehicles
50:24 yeah basically what what i've been doing
50:27 you know experiencing is i get to start
50:31 you know five seconds before the people
50:34 start turning right
50:37 so i get a lot of headway into the
50:39 crosswalk
50:42 yes and stephen just helped me out
50:45 with the name for that term and is
50:47 pedestrian lead
50:48 so they they provide the pedestrian
50:52 signal phase a couple of seconds before
50:54 the traffic uh that can
50:58 also help with uh making sure
51:01 that the green that we provide to
51:03 traffic has the least
51:04 conflict with turning uh with
51:06 pedestrians
51:10 and i will share my screen again because
51:13 somehow it keeps
51:15 blocking my uh presentation all
51:18 off and i'll try this again
51:22 can you see thank you jumping away
51:26 can you see the presentation
51:29 yes okay great oh is there any other
51:33 questions before i
51:35 move on looks like there's a few
51:39 comments and questions you're um i'm
51:41 going to suggest you just i think you
51:43 only have one more slide and i suspect
51:45 everyone's we can go we can bounce back
51:47 so why not you just go to the next slide
51:49 and then we'll open it up to the rest of
51:51 the questions and i see
51:52 uh three or four people queued up um if
51:54 it's okay with you guys
51:56 we should um okay
51:59 let's do that and through the discussion
52:02 also if we need to go
52:03 back to any of the slides we can do that
52:05 certainly
52:08 yes and of course uh the next uh
52:11 item would be the discussion that we
52:13 would like to have
52:15 today um goes around these two questions
52:18 first of all we would like to know what
52:20 the board thinks about the projects that
52:22 we have presented tonight
52:23 to be included in the strategic small
52:25 capital projects list
52:27 are these projects enough or
52:31 should we consider including any other
52:34 projects
52:34 uh with our uh strategic small capital
52:38 projects list
52:39 and the other question would be how
52:43 can these projects uh
52:46 would be prioritized how what
52:49 what kind of strat strategy could we use
52:52 to prioritize these projects
52:55 and now i'll open up for
52:58 the board to discuss david if i'm
53:02 tracking correctly was the first one
53:05 go ahead david
53:10 thanks uh i'm not
53:14 so familiar with the 25th avenue
53:17 project up on the in the highlands i
53:20 know where it is
53:22 i'm i'm got to take your word for it
53:25 however i will tell you that 56
53:29 and
53:33 make some east lakes and amish i'm
53:35 extremely familiar with that
53:38 and that light would definitely help a
53:41 lot
53:42 i ride bicycle a lot
53:45 down through the trail and that
53:49 intersection
53:50 of course has some history because
53:53 we've actually had a bicycle rider
53:56 killed
53:57 at that intersection
54:00 i think that even though you get the
54:04 walk sign
54:06 to go across it's extremely dangerous
54:08 because there's a lot of people
54:11 who want to make that free right turn
54:13 whether you're
54:14 whether you're there or not and you have
54:18 to watch that like a hawk
54:20 so i think a light there is going to be
54:24 immense help keeping those
54:28 uh motorists attentive
54:32 to the fact that there will be people
54:34 coming across
54:35 it they're they're more focused on that
54:38 right turn
54:39 than they are anybody standing there
54:41 waiting for the light
54:42 so uh i would be all in favor of that
54:47 uh project going forward
54:50 as soon as possible um once again
54:53 we lost an individual at that
54:56 intersection
54:57 and i sure would hate to see that happen
54:59 again thank you
55:02 and i've never nearly been hit there at
55:04 the same intersection i know it very
55:06 well
55:06 as well so maybe i'm going to take a
55:09 moment and just say
55:10 um i
55:13 i have the same comment and there may be
55:15 some others that are um i see micah
55:17 jerry a few others but maybe just take a
55:19 moment and um
55:21 i also think that that's a huge priority
55:23 other other
55:24 a lot of people and now um
55:27 is that widely agreed upon to be a huge
55:29 priority that
55:31 fixing that i mean is there anyone that
55:32 doesn't think that that's probably
55:34 of the things you've shown me that seems
55:36 yeah i'm
55:37 getting a lot of nods so rather than
55:39 each of us have to take time to do that
55:41 i wanted to check that out
55:42 um and then i think julian made a good
55:44 point about
55:45 there may be more than one way to design
55:47 that
55:49 the specific thing that you have in the
55:51 presentation
55:52 i think is unique which could make it
55:55 really good but i also think that
55:58 design is different than prioritizing
56:00 the project
56:01 to make sure people stop there so um
56:04 i don't know those are separate
56:05 discussions or not but it sounds like
56:07 we're pretty in pretty agreement that
56:09 that's a high priority so
56:10 um i just wanted to to check the
56:12 temperature of the group and see if
56:14 folks agreed um
56:18 and so with that we'll go which it
56:20 sounds like they do
56:21 lots of nods and thumbs up so with that
56:23 we'll go to micah
56:25 for his question the uh no
56:28 turn no right turn light is that
56:31 always going to be tied to a signaled
56:34 crosswalk like a push button crosswalk
56:37 oh we we could tie it in different ways
56:41 like
56:42 for example i have seen it in redmond
56:46 uh to be tied not to a crosswalk
56:49 specifically
56:50 but to turning to a left turning
56:52 movement to have
56:54 not uh those conflicting right turning
56:58 going at the same time to
57:00 the other side of the street turning
57:02 left so
57:03 it doesn't necessarily have to be for a
57:05 crosswalk um
57:07 but yeah there's many uh other ways that
57:10 we could uh
57:10 it does it do get does get tied to a
57:14 signal phase uh if that's the question
57:17 yeah i i just um
57:18 i i'm i certainly agree with the value
57:22 of those i think they're an important
57:23 safety feature
57:25 but i also i've
57:28 seen a lot of intersections where
57:32 you have a feature like that that just
57:35 it's on a schedule
57:36 or you know it's to time of the day or
57:39 the light cycle
57:40 and there might be whole sections of the
57:42 day where there are not people crossing
57:45 and so i don't want to have something
57:46 that's the purpose is a safety feature
57:49 to also impact traffic when it has no
57:52 impact on safety
57:54 yes i understand where you're going with
57:56 this like uh if there's a certain time
57:59 of the day that it might not be
58:01 as needed uh as any other i am not
58:04 quite sure if that would be possible but
58:07 that's something we can look into
58:11 do uh intersections that have a push
58:15 button
58:16 um are those
58:20 generally safer for pedestrians than
58:23 your screen sharing the chats again um
58:28 are those generally safer than
58:31 ones without like because the
58:33 pedestrians going i have to push this
58:35 button
58:36 i have to wait that makes it safer
58:40 or is that not really a factor
58:46 sorry micah can you repeat i just
58:50 got blocked with my presentation again
58:53 blocking out i don't know what's
58:55 happening this is just really just a
58:57 follow-up question so are
58:59 crosswalks where there's a push button
59:02 that you know you push you have to wait
59:04 for a signal
59:06 are those safer than you know the most
59:08 closely equivalent
59:09 crosswalk without uh that signal for
59:12 pedestrians because pedestrians go
59:15 i shouldn't cross now this says don't
59:17 cross or does that end up not
59:19 actually in increasing safety
59:22 yes i and that's my
59:26 uh like professional opinion like having
59:29 those
59:29 on when there's no pedestrian that could
59:32 give uh the
59:33 the driver a sense of
59:37 of of not trusting like the signal if
59:40 the pedestrian signal is on they would
59:43 uh feel like on another look on other
59:46 locations it will be on with no
59:48 pedestrians and
59:49 that would be my only like safety
59:52 concern
59:53 with having uh the pedestrian signal
59:56 turned on
59:57 uh without the the push button like
1:00:00 going
1:00:01 all the time uh when the the the
1:00:05 when it is allowed it would be allowed
1:00:07 but yeah it would be it would be my only
1:00:08 concern would be
1:00:09 would be just that that if the signal is
1:00:12 on and the
1:00:13 um uh straight uh
1:00:16 the through traffic uh the the the
1:00:19 traffic that would go with the
1:00:22 pedestrian crossing
1:00:23 um and if there's no pedestrian there uh
1:00:26 they could
1:00:28 think that that's going to be the case
1:00:30 on any other times
1:00:34 we have a if we're ready to move on to
1:00:38 jerry's question uh
1:00:42 sure um please forgive the clock
1:00:46 it's it's almost done if you can hear it
1:00:49 so um isabel i i was mainly
1:00:52 curious as to how
1:00:55 you did select the projects you did
1:00:59 so i can really understand 56th avenue
1:01:02 because
1:01:03 we've been through that a lot you you
1:01:05 probably have recorded
1:01:07 accidents there are quite a few so you
1:01:09 would it's a safety
1:01:11 issue but that other crossover and one
1:01:16 at 125th have neighbors called and
1:01:19 complained and said it was
1:01:20 a dangerous area or you know
1:01:24 so you're wondering how we should be
1:01:26 prioritizing
1:01:28 all these projects and so
1:01:31 i suppose safety is the number one issue
1:01:35 but how do you
1:01:36 find out that there's a safety problem
1:01:39 unless somebody calls you and complains
1:01:41 correct
1:01:43 is is that's really what that is part of
1:01:46 and i and i might not have the detailed
1:01:49 information
1:01:50 of all the history about each one of the
1:01:52 projects
1:01:53 but it could be a combination of that
1:01:56 citizens calling complaining
1:01:58 um about safety uh concerns at that
1:02:01 location
1:02:03 of course when we hear more than
1:02:06 one uh uh concerned yeah that
1:02:10 that's a uh kind of a a reason for us to
1:02:14 dive deeper into that uh specific
1:02:16 concern
1:02:17 also from staff also uh even staff
1:02:21 looking at uh different uh
1:02:25 or potential locations where we could
1:02:28 improve operations
1:02:30 too and it could be across across
1:02:33 cross-departmental uh other departments
1:02:35 might
1:02:36 like the police department could uh
1:02:38 notice oh we
1:02:39 we are dealing uh with a lot of
1:02:42 accidents going at this location
1:02:44 uh communication with the police
1:02:46 department also
1:02:48 could bring into new projects that we
1:02:52 including on this list do you gather
1:02:56 safety information or accident
1:02:58 information or
1:03:00 we do we do uh have and
1:03:03 that included on our um gis
1:03:08 oh okay interesting
1:03:12 okay that that's great so it is the
1:03:15 public aware i guess they would be
1:03:18 so concerned citizens would call
1:03:22 if they saw an unsafe location right
1:03:25 i would like to add that the public is
1:03:29 the it's the the biggest users of the
1:03:33 system so
1:03:34 uh you are much more aware
1:03:37 of traffic issues and we and that's the
1:03:40 reason why we're having this
1:03:41 conversation with the board and getting
1:03:43 your feedback
1:03:44 because you are the ones who see our
1:03:47 system
1:03:48 uh more often way more often than we do
1:03:54 that's true but then um yeah i i would
1:03:57 say you
1:03:58 definitely would prioritize by safety
1:04:01 concerns
1:04:02 from the public but then perhaps if
1:04:06 there's a way
1:04:08 a busier street if you know if it's just
1:04:11 a residential street
1:04:14 and there's maybe only 10 homes on it
1:04:17 it's not going to be as high priority as
1:04:20 larger street where it feeds into
1:04:24 you know 100 homes or something
1:04:27 so that's something and then the whole
1:04:29 school idea being close to a school
1:04:31 would actually trigger safety also
1:04:35 so those those are things that uh
1:04:38 are considered well when we uh put our
1:04:41 projects together
1:04:42 like how is there a safety risk how many
1:04:45 accidents are in this area how many
1:04:47 people does it serve
1:04:48 um and things like that
1:04:53 yeah so but it it sounds like you
1:04:57 already have a good
1:04:58 prioritization plan um
1:05:01 we don't have a priority uh so far we
1:05:05 can we are hearing tonight from the
1:05:07 board that the
1:05:08 the 56th and east lakes and amish
1:05:10 parkway uh is one
1:05:12 uh that we should bump up in the
1:05:14 priority system but we
1:05:16 don't necessarily have those prioritized
1:05:19 right now
1:05:19 that's what we are seeking from uh the
1:05:22 board tonight
1:05:23 uh how we can prioritize these projects
1:05:28 okay so so my comment was you know
1:05:31 safety number one you know if there's
1:05:34 been a lot of accidents
1:05:35 right just you know you could prioritize
1:05:38 based on the number of accidents
1:05:40 and then you could also prioritize based
1:05:44 on how busy the road is
1:05:47 so that's that's my comment
1:05:50 for prioritization thanks sherry
1:05:53 christie
1:05:55 yes thank you so um building on
1:05:58 jerry's input um i also
1:06:01 think well first of all i want to say
1:06:03 i'm really happy to see that this
1:06:05 program has been implemented i think
1:06:07 the city needs to have a tool that
1:06:09 allows
1:06:10 them to address emerging needs or maybe
1:06:13 some unintended consequences
1:06:16 so um in terms of additional
1:06:18 prioritization
1:06:20 i think public comment number of public
1:06:23 comments
1:06:24 and type should be an aspect
1:06:27 i think if council or the mayor's office
1:06:31 has addressed
1:06:32 um a situation that needs resolve
1:06:36 in the very short term i also
1:06:39 think that dollar amount or
1:06:42 estimated dollar amount makes sense
1:06:46 and also if there's the opportunity to
1:06:50 couple with say a private development
1:06:53 or investment that's happening if the
1:06:55 city has an opportunity
1:06:57 and only needs to throw in a little bit
1:07:00 to really
1:07:01 say complete a full line for the city
1:07:04 that maybe is outside of the development
1:07:07 envelope that that gives the city some
1:07:09 resources to work with
1:07:11 as well um
1:07:14 and then one question i had
1:07:17 um which i didn't see and i think connie
1:07:19 marsh asked was
1:07:20 what was the dollar amount for the
1:07:23 budget
1:07:25 for the for um the capital
1:07:28 projects so i think that's
1:07:32 how much
1:07:35 i yes so for i believe and john would
1:07:38 correct me if i'm wrong uh
1:07:41 but it it would be up about a hundred
1:07:44 thousand dollars john does that sound
1:07:47 right
1:07:49 that's correct and i can't remember if
1:07:51 it was a hundred thousand plus a little
1:07:53 bit for inflation or if it was just a
1:07:54 hundred thousand but
1:07:56 pretty close to a hundred thousand for
1:07:58 this project yeah so that's going to go
1:08:01 really quick
1:08:02 yes yes definitely so um i think that
1:08:07 amount needs to definitely be in that
1:08:10 prioritization
1:08:11 and then um so
1:08:14 and then one other thing i wanted to
1:08:16 provide input
1:08:17 uh on the first question what about what
1:08:20 other projects should be considered
1:08:23 initially when i was looking at the
1:08:26 gaps that needed to be completed i was
1:08:28 thinking
1:08:29 east lake sammamish and the newport
1:08:32 sr900 connections
1:08:34 but understanding or maybe being
1:08:37 reminded
1:08:38 again that that dollar amount is 100
1:08:39 grand i don't think those apply
1:08:42 um at this time
1:08:45 and then i just wanted to make a note i
1:08:47 also noticed
1:08:48 on the tier plan and in
1:08:52 in your presentation that 18
1:08:55 in the highla crossing neighborhood was
1:08:57 noted is not having
1:08:59 um connectivity and i just wanted to
1:09:02 share
1:09:02 that that particular road
1:09:07 is grandfathered in the rally properties
1:09:10 development
1:09:11 agreement
1:09:15 so you may want to or you may want to
1:09:17 look at that a little deeper
1:09:20 okay sure um is it
1:09:23 like uh showing up
1:09:27 if you uh it was so if you go to 17th
1:09:30 avenue northwest
1:09:32 and then you go to the west
1:09:39 uh that's 19 go to your right the one in
1:09:41 the middle
1:09:42 that's oh it's there
1:09:47 uh over to the west right oh
1:09:50 it's not it's like here yeah i don't
1:09:52 know what but it's
1:09:53 like where that little blue dot is yeah
1:09:56 and then go up
1:09:57 yeah oh okay this area here
1:10:01 yeah and we can talk about that offline
1:10:03 but i just wanted to bring that up
1:10:04 that that may be something you want to
1:10:06 remove from the sidewalk projects
1:10:12 less money to spend yes thank you
1:10:16 trying to help that's it
1:10:21 okay so i'm next and then erica and then
1:10:24 julian
1:10:24 um so i have a comment and another
1:10:26 project to
1:10:28 bring up for considering my overall
1:10:30 comment is and i really appreciated
1:10:32 jerry's question is how did you
1:10:34 um come up with this list because i
1:10:35 think it is um that's a little unclear
1:10:38 to me
1:10:39 i really think this is a great program
1:10:42 for a lot of reasons uh the way at least
1:10:45 the way i understand it um
1:10:47 and i just think that maybe we should
1:10:50 finish the task at hand uh on you know
1:10:53 on time
1:10:54 but i think in the future since as this
1:10:57 is an annual program
1:10:58 we may want to have a rudimentary
1:11:01 prioritization
1:11:02 methodology and i would suggest it
1:11:05 doesn't need to be the same
1:11:07 rigorous methodology as you would have
1:11:08 for larger projects because that's the
1:11:10 whole thing it's to be nimble and
1:11:12 efficient and opportunistic and it could
1:11:14 be observations it could be
1:11:16 complaint driven it could be tab brought
1:11:18 forward um
1:11:19 it could also be things that were
1:11:21 permanent design are going to be fairly
1:11:23 straightforward
1:11:24 where there's in-house capability so i'm
1:11:27 just i just kind of made a few notes of
1:11:28 things
1:11:29 highly leveraged opportunistic so um
1:11:33 i think that having some sort of
1:11:35 objective methodology for
1:11:37 random opportunities is probably a good
1:11:40 way to go about this
1:11:42 um and i don't have
1:11:45 another opinion i think the tabs
1:11:46 feedback is super super important but i
1:11:48 always try to be mindful of the fact
1:11:49 that i'm representing people i don't
1:11:51 even know
1:11:52 so um i don't you know um i don't
1:11:55 want to have it just be the individual
1:11:57 tab members kind of pet
1:11:59 projects because we may or may not
1:12:00 represent an appropriately diverse
1:12:03 um geographic or user base you know
1:12:06 of the community that we are here to
1:12:08 serve um
1:12:09 that we're all endeavoring to serve um
1:12:12 but with that i will say that i have my
1:12:14 own project that i think
1:12:16 is a super important project and i met
1:12:18 with some of the folks and now i can't
1:12:20 remember
1:12:20 kurt seaman and um people who are not
1:12:23 there anymore but
1:12:24 i know this is a washed out
1:12:26 responsibility but um
1:12:29 i'm just gonna throw it out there the
1:12:30 the um the crossing
1:12:33 let's see i guess when sunset ends and
1:12:35 you're going under i-90
1:12:37 to the highlands when you're on the
1:12:38 south side and you're getting ready to
1:12:41 cross
1:12:41 the exit 18 and there's a major
1:12:45 pedestrian facility
1:12:46 it's both a recreational facility
1:12:50 as well as um you know it's it can
1:12:52 connect
1:12:53 um to transit as well and so i think
1:12:56 it's a pretty
1:12:57 important intersection and it's a
1:12:59 terrifying
1:13:00 terrifying intersection so when you're
1:13:02 exiting i-90 and you're going to go
1:13:03 north on
1:13:04 highlands drive you have a channel turn
1:13:07 there you turn right
1:13:08 and getting across there you you have
1:13:12 poor sight lines on the north side of
1:13:13 that intersection
1:13:15 and you also have the absent right-hand
1:13:17 turn driver getting ready to merge onto
1:13:20 and and the pedestrians um facing
1:13:23 completely the wrong way so the the
1:13:25 traffic that's the threat
1:13:26 is over your far over your left shoulder
1:13:29 and i walked it with staff
1:13:31 maybe three years ago and they talked
1:13:34 about
1:13:34 having it be a priority that they could
1:13:37 try to um
1:13:38 convince washed out because they said
1:13:39 that even though it's a washout they do
1:13:40 take influence
1:13:41 and so i don't know if that's the kind
1:13:43 of thing that can be on
1:13:44 small capital projects and maybe simply
1:13:47 because the city doesn't have that power
1:13:49 to physically implement it
1:13:50 it wouldn't be eligible but that just
1:13:53 just like
1:13:53 fixing signage paint landscaping to
1:13:56 increase visibility getting washed out
1:13:59 to do those
1:14:00 things i think would be huge and i'm not
1:14:02 aware of um
1:14:04 of actual accidents but i crossed that
1:14:07 intersection a lot and it's
1:14:09 always treacherous
1:14:12 thank you thank you cynthia and we have
1:14:16 uh this is not the first time we have uh
1:14:18 heard
1:14:20 of a concern of this location and
1:14:23 um uh most probably this is
1:14:26 the strategic small capital projects is
1:14:29 uh the right location
1:14:32 for this type of project since again
1:14:36 it's it's inside watch those right of
1:14:38 uh but that's something that we can
1:14:40 certainly uh reach out to watchdog
1:14:43 which we have uh yeah you're just
1:14:45 wondering if it gets on someone's list
1:14:47 even though it may not meet the criteria
1:14:49 like it feels like if it gets on a list
1:14:51 it's got a much better chance of having
1:14:53 even if it's literally just
1:14:55 time staff time to dedicate to hounding
1:14:58 you know monthly weekly whatever i just
1:15:00 and maybe this isn't the place for it
1:15:02 um it's certainly a bit of an oddball um
1:15:05 and yet if it doesn't get onto a list if
1:15:07 it's not
1:15:08 respond you know if the staff isn't
1:15:10 responsible for it it just
1:15:12 it just gets that's why it hasn't gotten
1:15:14 addressed i think probably because it's
1:15:16 not really
1:15:16 anyone's job but if we made it a small
1:15:19 capital project even though the city
1:15:22 staff doesn't
1:15:23 necessarily have ultimate um authority
1:15:25 or um
1:15:26 jurisdiction i don't know just a thought
1:15:30 yeah like we can include it on and uh
1:15:33 even though if we don't uh necessarily
1:15:36 allocate some money to it but we do have
1:15:39 it as a project that's some coordination
1:15:41 project with watchdog
1:15:43 that could keep us
1:15:48 continuing that coordination effort with
1:15:54 thanks okay so erica
1:15:58 um i was gonna ask what crosswalks on
1:16:02 park drive i know i recognize one of the
1:16:04 one in the photo um
1:16:05 like that's the one i think closest to
1:16:07 the school if you're like
1:16:09 well yeah up the hill from the school um
1:16:12 and then it said like you'll remove
1:16:14 so is it just that one crosswalk or
1:16:16 you're going to remove like
1:16:18 cars on like parking spots on either
1:16:20 side of like three different
1:16:21 ones i'm just trying to do the math of
1:16:22 that in my head it'll be more like
1:16:25 strategically looking at the area what
1:16:28 are those crosswalks that are most
1:16:30 impacted
1:16:31 uh with uh vehicles parking
1:16:34 uh too close to the crosswalk okay so
1:16:37 the specific ones haven't been
1:16:38 identified yet it's just
1:16:40 we know that this is a problem okay i
1:16:42 really appreciate i think i brought that
1:16:43 up a couple tab meetings ago
1:16:45 um just about like when i've walked
1:16:46 there and like yeah it's really hard
1:16:48 you'll go and like it feels like you're
1:16:50 running out like if you're a driver like
1:16:52 the pedestrian is just running out but
1:16:53 it's not true you've just been behind
1:16:54 you know that van like that was in that
1:16:56 photo and so
1:16:57 um yeah i really appreciate that being a
1:17:00 priority
1:17:05 julian
1:17:08 okay um so i think
1:17:12 safety should be number one priority of
1:17:15 course
1:17:16 um again with the 52nd street
1:17:20 uh intersection i always
1:17:23 tend to try to get around that somehow i
1:17:27 usually go down 220
1:17:28 220th and then hop back onto east lake
1:17:31 smamish
1:17:32 from there so that's a big priority but
1:17:36 um also the so with the tier system
1:17:40 i think there's some issues with that
1:17:44 and that
1:17:44 we don't need a sidewalk on both sides
1:17:48 on sr 900 900 i think there's some
1:17:52 it's very difficult to bike across
1:17:56 the different small crosswalks
1:18:00 from on the on s900
1:18:03 just on boardwalks it can be very unsafe
1:18:06 to do that
1:18:08 because of cars that don't see you very
1:18:10 well so
1:18:12 how are you incorporating that sort of
1:18:16 idea into your system
1:18:23 i asked for that uh about
1:18:26 stephen to help me out with that
1:18:28 question since he was more familiarized
1:18:30 with the mobility master plan
1:18:34 work hi everyone uh so with the
1:18:38 the tier system with the mobility master
1:18:40 plan the intention was
1:18:42 actually to identify projects the city
1:18:44 is going to be doing that was one of the
1:18:46 sr900 is primarily a washdot kind of
1:18:49 jurisdiction of projects
1:18:51 so those are one of the things we'll be
1:18:53 updating in our maps the next time we
1:18:55 update the mobility master plan
1:18:57 the in terms of what's considered unsafe
1:19:00 washta actually can
1:19:02 has identified a lot of those corridors
1:19:03 within urban areas to have
1:19:06 crosswalk have sidewalks on both sides
1:19:09 not crosswalks
1:19:11 in order to satisfy kind of their own
1:19:13 goals the city supports
1:19:15 a lot of them having um
1:19:18 the sidewalks on both sides particularly
1:19:20 for is is
1:19:22 somewhat important because we have mixed
1:19:24 development
1:19:25 along the corridor and what we want to
1:19:29 do is actually influence
1:19:30 how washdog does their crossings more
1:19:32 than where they put the sidewalks
1:19:34 because we think that's where a lot of a
1:19:36 lot more of the conflicts are going to
1:19:38 experienced when it comes to safety
1:19:41 improvements at least in the quarters
1:19:42 throughout the city
1:19:44 but that is one of the one of the
1:19:46 projects at least on our map that we'll
1:19:48 be updating in the next process
1:19:50 when we update the mobility master plan
1:19:52 so that's that's kind of on our list
1:19:56 i'm just simply concerned that
1:19:59 with the tier system it's just going to
1:20:01 be two unsafe
1:20:03 boardwalks on either side with all the
1:20:07 different turn-ins of intersections you
1:20:09 know gun boulevard for example
1:20:12 and on the other end of the intersection
1:20:14 there's
1:20:15 that as well there's right turning lanes
1:20:18 rendering cars and then left turning
1:20:21 it can be quite unsafe to go there um
1:20:24 anyways another big concern is uh cost
1:20:27 of maintenance how are you incorporating
1:20:30 cost of maintenance because uh there's
1:20:32 you only
1:20:35 what good is a comprehensive sidewalk
1:20:37 network
1:20:38 without having that incorporated
1:20:42 that is a good question and for these uh
1:20:45 costs that we have come up with we are
1:20:47 not considering since those are
1:20:49 small uh projects um
1:20:52 we are not considering the maintenance
1:20:54 on the cost
1:20:59 but yeah that's something that we uh
1:21:02 uh need to uh uh
1:21:05 keep in mind the maintenance
1:21:08 of the the cost of maintenance of these
1:21:12 projects
1:21:15 yeah um i think that's it for now
1:21:18 thanks julian uh let's see if i'm
1:21:21 tracking correctly
1:21:22 i think the next is joseph and then
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1:21:26 david
1:21:28 um yeah so i had like a really quick
1:21:30 question and a comment i know that
1:21:32 jerry already asked a really similar
1:21:34 question
1:21:35 but my internet got bad i didn't really
1:21:38 hear the answer
1:21:39 um i was curious so for the um
1:21:43 sort of like safety plans that were
1:21:45 brought up or the strategic safety
1:21:47 improvements
1:21:48 that were brought up in the presentation
1:21:51 were those based on like
1:21:53 um like i guess
1:21:56 were they brought up based off of like
1:21:58 cost or like
1:21:59 being more easily like replaceable or
1:22:02 fixed
1:22:03 or they like brought up um because there
1:22:06 have been like
1:22:07 safety issues brought up by the public
1:22:09 before sort of like
1:22:11 why those were selected to be rob in the
1:22:14 presentation
1:22:16 and i would say that all all of those
1:22:19 aspects that you have asked about do
1:22:22 have to do
1:22:22 uh with the list of this project because
1:22:25 yes because since we are
1:22:27 talking about small strategic capital uh
1:22:31 projects uh we're uh asking of those
1:22:34 projects that we could do in-house and
1:22:37 the the
1:22:38 main investment would be the materials
1:22:40 uh so
1:22:41 so for the cause since this is an
1:22:43 ongoing program as well
1:22:45 uh so we are not uh looking at like
1:22:48 uh bigger capital projects that they
1:22:51 would be
1:22:52 uh like a capital project by themselves
1:22:55 because of the cost
1:22:57 uh also uh the safety because
1:23:00 that's one of the uh main goals of this
1:23:04 program to improve safety too and
1:23:07 um as we were discussing uh
1:23:11 uh responding to jerry's comment
1:23:14 uh yes it is part of of
1:23:17 concerns brought up by the public
1:23:19 observations from staff
1:23:22 as well from other departments
1:23:25 and we do
1:23:29 take into consideration
1:23:32 safety measures like traffic accidents
1:23:35 that have occurred in
1:23:36 the location um how many users
1:23:40 the locations have like how the traffic
1:23:42 volumes on
1:23:43 on those trees how big is the impact
1:23:47 of the concerns
1:23:50 yeah okay well then i guess i want to
1:23:52 make like a really quick
1:23:53 call or like some other comments i think
1:23:56 i really agree with what david wagner
1:23:59 said earlier about like
1:24:00 the um like no right turn
1:24:04 signal i think that like a lot of people
1:24:06 decide to take the
1:24:08 right turn on a red light so it's kind
1:24:10 of important to have that sign up
1:24:12 also like relating to what julian said
1:24:14 earlier i think that
1:24:16 it's really important to have like
1:24:18 prioritize safety but on top of that i
1:24:20 also think it's important
1:24:22 to try and prioritize equity since we
1:24:25 said something that the board's like
1:24:26 talked about
1:24:28 in um earlier meetings so if that's like
1:24:30 applicable in any way
1:24:32 it should be considered maybe like
1:24:35 whatever projects help the greatest
1:24:36 amount of people or
1:24:38 prioritizing like areas that don't get a
1:24:41 lot of projects in them
1:24:42 but still need some consideration
1:24:45 towards like renovation
1:24:46 or like improvement of like
1:24:48 transportation infrastructure
1:24:50 also i guess one possible project i
1:24:53 think should be considered
1:24:54 i know that it's on the transportation
1:24:56 improvement plan
1:24:58 but i'm not entirely sure what the idea
1:25:01 for it was
1:25:03 but the intersection from sunset
1:25:06 way to newport way there's an
1:25:08 intersection
1:25:10 that goes into the city where
1:25:13 whenever there's a green light the car
1:25:15 can take a
1:25:16 right turn go straight or take a left
1:25:18 turn and i think that
1:25:20 that is kind of dangerous for
1:25:22 pedestrians and should be like
1:25:24 reconsidered
1:25:25 um since like cars can turn like
1:25:29 any direction
1:25:34 yes on that if you can uh let me know
1:25:36 but a specific location that's something
1:25:39 uh if it's
1:25:40 uh something we can look into yes
1:25:43 sure we can include that on on our
1:25:47 list of projects or observe what we
1:25:50 could
1:25:51 uh do to help improving the operations
1:25:57 thank you
1:26:00 david you're up thanks cynthia
1:26:03 thank you cynthia i want to be uh very
1:26:07 courteous to time i know that stephen's
1:26:09 still going to
1:26:10 talk about transit i don't want to take
1:26:13 any more time on this but
1:26:14 i do have a small project for safety
1:26:18 that i would like to talk about
1:26:20 and it doesn't have to be tonight but
1:26:22 definitely would like to
1:26:23 uh get our get my foot in the door to
1:26:26 talk about it
1:26:27 and i have a a a longer comment
1:26:30 about that right turn light and use
1:26:33 uh the gilman
1:26:42 that the new turn signal the new
1:26:46 intersection light at gilman and
1:26:54 correct i i would like to talk about
1:26:59 with the thought process of that 56th
1:27:02 avenue uh
1:27:04 in mind so i want to be a sensitive to
1:27:07 so i'll be glad to relinquish my
1:27:10 questions so we can go on
1:27:11 but i would like to have some other time
1:27:14 in the future to talk about this very
1:27:16 same subject
1:27:18 dave can i encourage you to go ahead and
1:27:20 talk about it now because we did discuss
1:27:22 with um uh stephen and the
1:27:25 on our terrorist meeting that this is
1:27:28 the priority
1:27:29 and they do need to get i think some
1:27:32 you know to get to a place um
1:27:35 and the transit can wait so why don't
1:27:37 you go ahead
1:27:38 okay thank you um uh i really wanted to
1:27:43 get the transit as a retired transit
1:27:45 operator
1:27:46 but uh let me go ahead with this so
1:27:49 um the comment i have with that red turn
1:27:52 light
1:27:53 i've been uh very impressed with that
1:27:56 new intersection
1:27:58 with uh gilman and juniper
1:28:02 and watching that turn light it seems to
1:28:04 me when
1:28:05 nobody pushes the walk sign because
1:28:09 that that's a little different for the
1:28:11 intersection because they walk
1:28:13 all directions but when nobody pushes
1:28:17 uh button then that right turn light
1:28:21 doesn't come on it's just a signal
1:28:24 change
1:28:24 like correct me if i'm wrong john maybe
1:28:28 knows more about it than i do but
1:28:32 that has decreased all the
1:28:35 accident potential that's been happening
1:28:38 for many many years at that intersection
1:28:41 i would
1:28:42 love to see that same thought process
1:28:46 at 56
1:28:49 i have personally almost been hit at 56
1:28:54 and many friends almost hit at 56
1:28:57 and i'm all in favor of however we do it
1:29:01 prioritizing isabel that we make that
1:29:05 one of the first things out of the out
1:29:07 of the gate
1:29:08 because that is really going to save
1:29:10 lives over there
1:29:12 more than any of the other projects you
1:29:14 talked about tonight
1:29:16 but that's my opinion um
1:29:19 and i see that as important my project
1:29:22 that i'm very selfish about like cynthia
1:29:26 was with hers
1:29:28 i live off of dogwood street
1:29:31 when you're westbound on northwest
1:29:34 dogwood street
1:29:35 you come to newport you
1:29:38 cannot see the street or
1:29:42 the sidewalk it's not really a sidewalk
1:29:45 it's a path now you cannot see
1:29:49 that in either direction unless you
1:29:52 pull in to the crosswalk and ease out so
1:29:55 you can see
1:29:57 that i have seen more accidents there in
1:30:00 the last
1:30:01 uh 17 years than
1:30:04 what needs to happen what
1:30:07 needs to be cleared is the house if
1:30:10 you're going westbound
1:30:12 on dogwood street and you look
1:30:15 there's a holly tree big clump of holly
1:30:18 tree right there
1:30:19 that will not let you to allow you to
1:30:23 up that road and at night since it's not
1:30:26 well lit
1:30:27 you can't see pedestrians coming
1:30:31 up to that uh roadway
1:30:35 i think that small project
1:30:38 because i don't see it being much more
1:30:40 than clearing
1:30:41 and lighting that intersection that
1:30:44 would save
1:30:45 a lot of grief for our citizens um
1:30:48 and with that i'll shut up did you guys
1:30:52 catch that because i didn't catch
1:30:54 precisely could you just repeat the
1:30:56 percep precise
1:30:58 uh proposal it is the uh
1:31:03 right turn left turn from northwest
1:31:06 dogwood
1:31:07 at newport it's uh you have to turn left
1:31:11 or you have to turn right
1:31:13 yep the other thing i forgot to mention
1:31:16 if you're coming on newport way and
1:31:19 wanting to make
1:31:20 a left turn or a right turn onto dogwood
1:31:24 you have that same vision issue
1:31:27 you cannot see it's been a safety issue
1:31:30 for years and the city needs to address
1:31:34 very very soon multiple accidents
1:31:37 there i don't believe we've lost any
1:31:39 lives there
1:31:40 like we have on 56 but uh
1:31:44 very very poorly designed uh
1:31:47 intersection is that where you're coming
1:31:50 up in newport is if you're traveling
1:31:52 southbound newport way and you're coming
1:31:53 up to
1:31:54 dogwood to take a left here to go to the
1:31:57 library
1:31:58 correct that intersection okay and it's
1:32:00 on right vertical curve right through
1:32:01 the intersection because you have the
1:32:03 down slope so it's
1:32:04 the sight distance vertical sight
1:32:06 distance no not
1:32:08 no i think you're thinking if you're
1:32:09 going to library that's a different one
1:32:11 thomas
1:32:12 yes there's a law office right on the
1:32:14 corner it's very difficult to see
1:32:19 i know which one you're talking about i
1:32:21 also want to say that when i first moved
1:32:23 to the area
1:32:24 because i lived just a few blocks from
1:32:25 there uh
1:32:27 there was a car in the ditch so the
1:32:29 drainage ditches are really steep right
1:32:31 there and every now and again
1:32:32 and my neighbor said oh yeah that
1:32:33 happens about once every other year
1:32:35 somebody ends up in that ditch and
1:32:36 and yeah it sure seems to me that it
1:32:39 would be um
1:32:40 even though we don't have a formal
1:32:41 criteria sorry i'm next so i'm
1:32:44 just um i guess i'm sort of speaking out
1:32:47 of turn but yeah i'm concurring
1:32:48 with him and it seems like
1:32:52 simple fixes even though that whole
1:32:55 corridor is slated to be upgraded
1:32:56 if it's a low-cost you know something
1:32:58 can be done in the house
1:33:00 um it's very difficult to spot where
1:33:03 dogwood is when you're coming from
1:33:04 either direction
1:33:07 correct even though i live on dogwood i
1:33:10 still have trouble
1:33:12 seeing it and remembering exactly where
1:33:14 to break and signal
1:33:15 and whether i'm on my bike or my car
1:33:22 and not well lit at all
1:33:26 yeah so i was just going to make a
1:33:30 general comment
1:33:31 that i do think it's important to
1:33:32 separate a little bit design from
1:33:34 projects so we may want to we may
1:33:38 have an opportunity to figure out or
1:33:40 maybe not
1:33:41 you know i'm not sure exactly what the
1:33:42 um assignment will be for the tab but
1:33:46 i think it's important to figure out
1:33:47 which projects are the priority
1:33:50 and then let the experts who do this for
1:33:53 their day job
1:33:54 propose the actual method to you know to
1:33:56 achieve the objective that we
1:33:58 are agreeing um and maybe this is a good
1:34:01 time isabelle for you to
1:34:03 reflect back i guess me i wanted to make
1:34:05 a last call for
1:34:06 um other projects that people
1:34:10 are aware of that are not included in
1:34:13 oh julian had a comment oh
1:34:17 yes julian why don't you go ahead and
1:34:19 make your comment
1:34:20 and then um why don't we make a last
1:34:24 call for a specific thank you christy
1:34:27 go ahead and julie julian so so i forgot
1:34:30 to mention one thing my
1:34:32 comments um and that's connectivity
1:34:36 so i think that's a very high priority
1:34:37 not just from home to destination but
1:34:39 just in general
1:34:41 the network of sidewalks and
1:34:45 bike lanes i'm my planes aren't included
1:34:47 of course but
1:34:48 um you know the 60-second roundabout
1:34:52 um you know there's that there's a
1:34:54 bikeway from eastlake's manage goes into
1:34:57 the roundabouts i'm not sure if anyone
1:35:00 uses that because it just seems to end
1:35:04 nowhere really so i think
1:35:07 it's really important to make sure that
1:35:12 this kind of applies to the sidewalks
1:35:13 too it's important to make sure that
1:35:16 we fill on every single gap and
1:35:19 you know maybe we spend a little more to
1:35:21 get that final
1:35:23 few few hundred feet or so a few dozen
1:35:26 feeds um
1:35:28 because ending sidewalks in the middle
1:35:30 of nowhere is kind of
1:35:32 not very great anyways
1:35:43 thanks julian do we have any other um
1:35:45 burning projects at people because that
1:35:47 was one of
1:35:48 her questions um
1:35:52 are we missing anything so
1:35:55 i just wanted to kind of make a last
1:35:56 call before we wrap up and then maybe
1:35:58 um as well i don't know if you want to
1:35:59 summarize kind of what you're hearing
1:36:01 and what you think
1:36:01 would be next it looks like erica's got
1:36:03 a comment but erica can you
1:36:05 rather than have us read that can you go
1:36:07 ahead and um
1:36:09 sure real time i can't it's not i don't
1:36:12 think this is an issue for tab but i
1:36:14 think one of the problems as well as
1:36:16 um for the uh sammamish 56 is that
1:36:19 um i've been in that turn line trying to
1:36:21 take like double checking to
1:36:23 before i take that free right because i
1:36:25 know like of like there's
1:36:26 you know been pedestrians there but then
1:36:27 the guy behind me will honk like it's
1:36:29 such an entitlement
1:36:30 and i i just think that's probably more
1:36:32 like a driver awareness thing or that
1:36:33 needs to like be re-taught
1:36:34 and like driving school or something but
1:36:37 i think that also might add to like some
1:36:38 of the pressure of that situation or if
1:36:40 like you just depends on who's behind
1:36:42 you because they can't see
1:36:43 who is um who's crossing the crosswalk
1:36:54 thanks
1:37:02 so it sounds like we've um good job
1:37:04 everybody we heard from everybody so
1:37:06 thank you
1:37:07 um what um
1:37:10 i think we heard some common themes um i
1:37:13 see as well as taking notes do you want
1:37:15 um kind of summarize what you heard uh
1:37:18 doesn't sound like we actually take
1:37:19 formal action but it is good to know
1:37:22 because you know we all have slightly
1:37:24 different opinions and
1:37:25 um we want to act as a board to provide
1:37:29 kind of a unified feedback to to you all
1:37:33 i'll summarize what i've heard and if i
1:37:34 am missing anything or if
1:37:36 or if anything uh sounds like it's not
1:37:40 right let me know um it seems from the
1:37:43 project
1:37:44 list that we have uh presented the
1:37:46 southeast 56th
1:37:48 and east lake smanish parkway had a
1:37:51 general
1:37:53 goal go ahead with the board like a
1:37:56 general priority
1:37:58 on that one in terms of additional
1:38:01 projects
1:38:02 we have heard like dogwood at newport
1:38:06 um to provide or enhance visibility
1:38:09 uh seems like street lighting and
1:38:13 obstructions visibility obstructions at
1:38:16 that intersection going
1:38:17 westbound um is a a huge concern
1:38:22 and also the i90 ramps and front street
1:38:25 although that intersection uh is not uh
1:38:30 in uh is inside city right of way
1:38:33 uh just keeping keeping it on our list
1:38:37 of projects to do uh in coordination
1:38:40 with what
1:38:40 would keep us moving from doing doing
1:38:43 something on that
1:38:44 in terms of priority seems like uh
1:38:47 we should take into consideration the
1:38:50 traffic volumes uh number of traffic
1:38:53 accidents or
1:38:54 accident history on those locations and
1:38:57 sidewalk to provide
1:38:59 a priority to sidewalk connectivity
1:39:03 and that's about my summary if i am
1:39:07 missing anything
1:39:08 um please feel free
1:39:12 to jump in
1:39:15 can i ask by connectivity do you mean
1:39:18 like connectivity to
1:39:20 services or like gaps in the same gap
1:39:22 sorry
1:39:23 gaps gaps missing gaps on sidewalk
1:39:34 is there anything else i should
1:39:39 include on us to summarize
1:40:02 so now we're in this betwixt in between
1:40:05 because we don't quite have enough time
1:40:06 for transit
1:40:08 item 4c um
1:40:12 we've got about just under 20 minutes
1:40:15 left to go um steven
1:40:34 do you want to get it started or do we
1:40:37 want to
1:40:39 get out of class early
1:40:46 i'm concerned if we start it we might
1:40:49 like build up some questions
1:40:51 and then run out of time um and then
1:40:55 like i'm gonna do my best to write stuff
1:40:56 down but like stuff might just fly out
1:40:57 my head
1:40:58 time we get to next month if when we
1:41:00 take this up again that's my only
1:41:02 concern
1:41:10 stephen how about if you um just frame
1:41:13 and then um remind us what the
1:41:17 what the task is i know this was just
1:41:19 going to be um
1:41:21 information maybe just frame it and
1:41:24 we'll
1:41:24 um bring it in next time
1:41:37 sure would it help for me to um
1:41:41 show a couple slides so to help kind of
1:41:43 frame it all
1:41:44 it's easier to kind of show than me talk
1:41:46 about it than anything else
1:41:48 the kind of the main see if i can
1:41:53 share my screen
1:42:07 all right so um the main thing is that
1:42:10 with the pandemic the
1:42:13 cds cause kind of experienced a huge
1:42:16 cut or not cup but suspension of
1:42:18 multiple services
1:42:20 which resulted in
1:42:24 only three routes actually staying in
1:42:26 service throughout the pandemic and
1:42:28 with this upcoming fall service change
1:42:31 we'll
1:42:32 actually be getting most of those
1:42:33 services back some will be partial
1:42:35 um only two routes will remain suspended
1:42:37 that's about 200
1:42:39 and route 219 which will be considered
1:42:42 potential
1:42:45 potentially bringing them back next
1:42:47 spring or
1:42:48 at the latest next fall king county
1:42:51 council did approve in the budget to
1:42:53 bring back
1:42:53 all suspended services but if they
1:42:55 didn't leave out
1:42:57 any of the potential options for
1:43:00 cutting any services that were had had
1:43:03 low ridership
1:43:04 uh or had low performance and uh with
1:43:06 with the
1:43:07 consideration of reinvesting that that's
1:43:10 those services
1:43:10 into something else in the community and
1:43:12 so we'll be kind of updating the board
1:43:14 later on about that
1:43:16 the biggest thing i wanted to kind of
1:43:18 bring to the board's attention was
1:43:20 just the city's efforts to advance
1:43:23 transit
1:43:23 and i won't go into that tonight
1:43:26 i'll go into that next time when i have
1:43:28 the presentation just so
1:43:30 i don't go too much onto the board's
1:43:33 time and
1:43:34 um cause you all to have more questions
1:43:39 are there any questions at least on the
1:43:42 the current side of transit services
1:43:47 go ahead julian um so i was looking at
1:43:51 the slide deck earlier
1:43:52 this week um before i went on my trip
1:43:56 then you include sound transit
1:43:58 realignment what is this city doing
1:44:00 um in terms of you know uh
1:44:05 its position to the county or to sound
1:44:08 transit itself
1:44:09 in terms of realignment and what options
1:44:12 we could have
1:44:14 sure so the the city count several civic
1:44:18 city council members have membership on
1:44:19 regional boards
1:44:22 since we don't have a position on the
1:44:24 sound transit board we're
1:44:25 actually leveraging um
1:44:28 a lot of partnerships within the region
1:44:32 work with the sound transit board and
1:44:35 sound transit staff
1:44:36 on a timeline for implementation of the
1:44:39 sound transit 3
1:44:40 package which includes the light rail
1:44:42 coming to isoqual
1:44:44 currently the package is
1:44:47 there's no proposed change yet
1:44:50 there is a chair if you look at the last
1:44:53 sound transit board meeting there you
1:44:55 you can find a
1:44:56 chairs uh realignment proposal
1:45:00 that's not the final proposal it's still
1:45:02 being worked on
1:45:03 um so when i have more information about
1:45:06 that on
1:45:06 on what's going to be considered for a
1:45:08 charitable i'll send that out to the
1:45:14 board
1:45:16 i see micah and david
1:45:21 so how are the decisions being made like
1:45:24 what are you looking at to decide which
1:45:26 routes
1:45:26 to bring back and what's the
1:45:30 what's the plan for responding to demand
1:45:34 as opposed to just having you know some
1:45:36 set date
1:45:38 for return to service so metro
1:45:42 uh several a few months back
1:45:45 sent out uh regional surveys to
1:45:47 everybody in consideration of recovery
1:45:50 and they used that in their budgeting
1:45:52 proposal with the king county council
1:45:55 which was approved a couple months ago
1:46:00 and part of that proposal was actually
1:46:02 the decision to bring back certain
1:46:03 services
1:46:05 using kind of their evaluation tools
1:46:08 they have in place right now
1:46:10 some of that is considering equity uh
1:46:12 other that is considering performance
1:46:14 metrics
1:46:15 uh which is looking at ridership which
1:46:17 is looking at
1:46:18 the amount of um
1:46:22 what's kind of been the trend over over
1:46:23 the last few years
1:46:25 or what's ridership is it growing is it
1:46:27 getting worse
1:46:28 what's the planned land use if any
1:46:31 development
1:46:32 in the considered area so metro is
1:46:34 actually looking
1:46:35 doing much better when considering
1:46:38 changes to
1:46:39 upcoming ridership but at the same time
1:46:42 there's still more to be done they're
1:46:43 actually considering making changes to a
1:46:45 lot of those policies at this time
1:46:51 uh but to answer your question the city
1:46:54 didn't
1:46:55 have um we don't have control over which
1:46:58 routes come back when
1:46:59 it's it's uh king county metro that
1:47:01 controls all that uh
1:47:03 we do try to work with metro in terms of
1:47:05 like we pushed out
1:47:07 the metro survey to the community to to
1:47:09 respond both to metro and
1:47:11 sound transit surveys on how they wanted
1:47:14 to approach recovery
1:47:16 and we also worked with metro staff
1:47:19 when it comes to considerations for the
1:47:22 different routes and impacts it might
1:47:23 have on
1:47:24 different community members
1:47:34 i think dave wagner had a question yeah
1:47:38 um thanks stephen it's more of a comment
1:47:42 uh you have on that suspended
1:47:45 uh list the 218
1:47:48 i know that they're running the 218 now
1:47:52 the highlands park and ride in uh
1:47:54 they're only running 40 footers
1:47:57 uh but that tells me that that's back on
1:47:59 track
1:48:00 so actually you've got four on active
1:48:04 service
1:48:06 with that 218 so it's not suspended
1:48:08 anymore
1:48:11 some of some of the budget requests that
1:48:13 metro put in place was to potentially
1:48:16 bring back services starting last month
1:48:19 so the 218 was probably one of those
1:48:21 routes that they were able to make
1:48:22 make happen sooner than later
1:48:25 but thank you for bringing that up and
1:48:27 that's a very important route because it
1:48:30 doesn't do the doesn't stop really in
1:48:33 downtown is a quad doesn't do the
1:48:35 flyover stop
1:48:36 on the way out of town at eastgate so
1:48:39 it's uh
1:48:40 really a very popular route to get
1:48:43 people to ride
1:48:57 great is there any other questions
1:49:10 going from julian
1:49:13 so for it's going to be a while until
1:49:17 all the services is going to be restored
1:49:19 particularly
1:49:20 route 200
1:49:24 next year as you said are there any
1:49:27 alternative methods of intel mobility
1:49:31 that you're considering
1:49:32 like uh i'm we're not really much of a
1:49:35 city yet but like bike share or
1:49:38 something like that
1:49:47 as we keep growing as a city
1:49:52 bike share so um first last mile options
1:49:55 like bike share have been
1:49:56 discussed at the city um with our
1:49:58 regional partners but also
1:50:01 um in response to
1:50:04 the the growth of those type of mode
1:50:07 share modes or travel options
1:50:10 throughout the region the city esqua
1:50:14 hasn't really come to a decision on when
1:50:16 or when bike share should be kind of
1:50:18 implemented within the city it's
1:50:19 something that's
1:50:20 still in consideration but there's
1:50:22 hesitation just because
1:50:24 we have not had the as much development
1:50:26 with our infrastructure to support
1:50:28 bike share systems as a lot of our
1:50:30 surrounding cities
1:50:32 and so that's a big concern um something
1:50:34 that we're hoping to make improvements
1:50:35 on the net in
1:50:36 kind of the near future um and some of
1:50:40 the fluctuation with bike share
1:50:41 companies
1:50:43 and or even scooter share companies have
1:50:45 kind of been in question too and so
1:50:47 some of it is waiting to see how the
1:50:49 market plays but also giving us time to
1:50:51 build up our infrastructure
1:50:53 to make it a more comfortable system for
1:50:56 bike share and
1:50:57 scooter show to even operate
1:51:04 i've got something to share
1:51:07 um uh i know the highlands um
1:51:11 has a uh van like it's something that
1:51:14 you can use for like vanpool
1:51:15 options um but that is something that i
1:51:18 think they got from
1:51:20 king county metro themselves it's like a
1:51:22 retired van that's been kind of rehabbed
1:51:25 um but that is um
1:51:28 kind of appointment only or getting in
1:51:30 contact with the executive director
1:51:32 of the um at blakely hall there
1:51:35 so that's an option i think they're
1:51:38 still kind of sussing out how they're
1:51:39 going to fully use that
1:51:41 but i know it was doing runs or was an
1:51:43 option for
1:51:44 um taking folks to the cooling center
1:51:47 things like that i think it's
1:51:48 um seniors it's like a target
1:51:52 but it's more of a like neighborhood
1:51:54 option
1:51:58 and thank you you reminded me of jul the
1:52:01 other part of julian's question
1:52:03 um so it's in in terms of what what else
1:52:05 the city is considering
1:52:07 city council actually just approved for
1:52:09 staff to
1:52:11 look into a partnership with king county
1:52:13 metro to consider some type of shuttle
1:52:14 service
1:52:15 or flexible service with metro
1:52:19 to pilot within the city potentially in
1:52:22 the talus
1:52:24 squawk neighborhoods but also to
1:52:26 consider expanding expansion of some
1:52:28 type of that type of program
1:52:30 in more parts of the city more
1:52:32 information will kind of come out once
1:52:33 we get more details
1:52:35 as we develop the partnership with metro
1:52:46 yeah i i saw all of those items in the
1:52:50 budget particularly the the community
1:52:52 shuttle
1:52:53 you know highlands and the king county's
1:52:57 program to
1:52:58 retire various vans um and let various
1:53:02 community groups
1:53:03 use those um i'm just saying that
1:53:07 bike share in particular is quite um
1:53:11 amazing for just in-time mobility i've
1:53:13 been using it around chicago
1:53:26 are we gonna move on for now on transit
1:53:29 and come back to it then another time
1:53:32 that's it for me unless uh the board
1:53:34 would like more information
1:53:42 i'm not seeing any more questions yeah
1:53:45 so not seeing any it sounds like we'll
1:53:46 move on to
1:53:47 5a you want to review the work plan and
1:53:50 uh now we already know there's one
1:53:52 change
1:54:00 is that isabelle or stephen yes i am
1:54:03 trying to pull that up
1:54:04 from the website and
1:54:13 okay so next
1:54:17 up for uh the august
1:54:20 meeting so now we will be moving
1:54:23 uh the transit discussion the more
1:54:26 detailed transit
1:54:27 transit discussion for the next meeting
1:54:30 uh we
1:54:30 had on our list to also
1:54:35 include the continue with the uh
1:54:38 discussion about the transportation
1:54:40 improvement project program
1:54:42 project update uh in the project of
1:54:45 northwest some amish road non-motorized
1:54:48 project
1:54:48 discussion and actually we did have
1:54:52 uh uh the transit discussion for that
1:54:55 one the continuation of that one so it
1:54:57 seems like we
1:54:58 will still have those uh three topics on
1:55:01 the agenda for
1:55:03 next meeting
1:55:18 is there anything else to discuss on the
1:55:19 work plan
1:55:21 um do we go into the
1:55:24 next uh for the rest of the year on this
1:55:28 i can i can go uh
1:55:32 into all all of them i just think it's
1:55:34 important maybe and steven i don't know
1:55:36 if you want to go through this i just
1:55:37 think it is important to just note that
1:55:40 sounds like we'll be um revisiting the
1:55:43 racial equity discussion which is i know
1:55:45 a high priority
1:55:47 yes and we have that for september uh
1:55:51 meeting scheduled for september meeting
1:55:54 for now
1:55:58 and i was just i'll i was also just
1:56:00 going to add with the
1:56:01 in the staff report tonight um just kind
1:56:03 of a brief update
1:56:10 all right are we there do we want to get
1:56:12 to that
1:56:15 sure um just to follow from our previous
1:56:19 discussions on on racial equity and kind
1:56:21 of continuing the momentum
1:56:23 um i wasn't able to have a meeting with
1:56:25 our consultant yet that's scheduled
1:56:28 in the next few weeks there was some
1:56:31 scoping issues why i couldn't meet with
1:56:33 her yet but i'm gonna
1:56:34 be continuing the conversation with her
1:56:36 on figuring out how to
1:56:38 keep up the momentum with the
1:56:39 transportation advisory board to discuss
1:56:41 racial equity
1:56:42 but also figure out uh other
1:56:45 discussion items that the board could be
1:56:47 considering as we wait
1:56:48 for the city to develop its its own
1:56:51 equity assessment framework
1:56:53 and if you want more information about
1:56:56 that the
1:56:57 city staff small group of city staff
1:56:59 actually met with the city council
1:57:00 earlier this week to discuss that
1:57:02 um and it was an interesting
1:57:04 conversation i won't go too much into it
1:57:06 if you'd like to learn more i would look
1:57:08 at the study session materials from
1:57:10 earlier this week
1:57:17 that's it from me anything from john
1:57:19 roosevelt yes
1:57:20 i've got oh go ahead john yeah i've got
1:57:23 one to add and i think isabelle might
1:57:25 have one
1:57:26 earlier this year the city applied for
1:57:30 three different grants to do overlays on
1:57:33 city streets
1:57:34 and two of our projects were selected
1:57:37 which means soon we'll begin
1:57:39 designed to do an overlay on east lake
1:57:43 sammamish parkway from black nugget road
1:57:46 to 50th and then
1:57:49 on southeast 43rd from the roundabout
1:57:52 at east lake smamish parkway
1:57:56 up until just before the providence
1:57:59 ridge
1:58:00 subdivision okay
1:58:08 sorry i'm just saying that's cause for
1:58:09 celebration well done yes
1:58:11 yes it is um so for the street
1:58:14 escape plan uh that one is still moving
1:58:17 forward uh with
1:58:18 a construction plan to start within the
1:58:21 next couple of months
1:58:29 i think that's what we have for a
1:58:32 staff report
1:58:35 i don't have a chair report i made some
1:58:37 comments earlier about the training
1:58:38 and that was really useful and sujata
1:58:40 was able to attend as well that's
1:58:42 about it do we have a youth report um i
1:58:45 don't have a youth report today
1:58:50 all right any other announcements
1:58:56 you may make just one quick historical
1:58:59 comment
1:59:00 please so when i was a youth
1:59:05 uh and i lived out on hobart road
1:59:09 one of my greatest fears was breaking
1:59:12 down on the hobart road on the way home
1:59:15 because i knew that there would be no
1:59:17 cars coming by
1:59:18 to get a ride or rescue i just wanted
1:59:22 you guys to know that there was a time
1:59:24 in life
1:59:25 when that really existed it doesn't
1:59:28 exist anymore
1:59:29 but there was a time in life when that
1:59:31 existed
1:59:36 especially on a double date
1:59:43 oh my goodness all right well well done
1:59:47 um look it's eight o'clock sharp
1:59:50 um if there's nothing else i propose we
1:59:52 adjourn
1:59:54 thank you all appreciate all the great
1:59:57 thoughts and um
1:59:59 yeah looking forward we got one more
2:00:00 zoom and then then we'll be in
2:00:02 in the flesh
2:00:06 thank you very good good night everyone
2:00:08 good night thanks guys