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Thursday, August 19, 2021

6:00 PM · 1h 56m
Topic tracked across meetings:
Transportation Improvement Program 5/10
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD Staff Liaison Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner About Email Stephen Padua Created in 2017, the board provides additional expertise and advice on the City's Regular Members transportation system and goals. The board is 2022 – Sujata Goel also the lead advisory group on the 2022 – Micah Zeitz-Chua implementation and management of the City’s 2023 – Kristi Tripple Master Mobility Plan (MMP). 2023 – Dave Waggoner 2023 – Joseph Zhang* Membership 2024 – Cynthia Krass The Transportation Advisory Board is 2024 – Janie Walzer comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2025 – Erika Boyd three alternates. All members are appointed 2025 – Tom McDonald by the Mayor and subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms expire April 30 of the Alternate Members year listed. For more information, 2022 – Jeri Bernstein see IMC 2.92 and Rules & Regulations. 2022…
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of July 15, 2021
packet pp.5–7
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 07-15-21 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting July 15, 2021 MINUTES
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Transportation Improvement Program
90 min · Isabel Diaz, Senior Transportation Engineer John Mortenson, Transportation Engineering Manager · packet pp.9–42
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
TIP Project Review AUGUST 19, 2021 | TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD
5. REPORTS
5a
Board Work Plan
packet pp.43–44
Staff report:
• Discuss transit system 1/21/21 • Transportation Improvement Program update introduction FEBRUARY AUGUST 2/4/21 • TIP / Mobility Master Plan project 8/19/21 • Transportation Improvement Program prioritization
5b
Staff Report
5c
Chair Report
5d
Youth Report
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
The next meeting is scheduled for 6:00 p.m. on September 16, 2021
0:00 to this thursday august 19th
0:03 transportation advisory board meeting
0:05 for the city of issaquah uh my name is
0:08 sujata goyal i'm the vice chair of the
0:09 board of this
0:11 board
0:12 our chair cynthia is here in attendance
0:14 tonight
0:15 however um due to some recent recent
0:17 dental surgery um
0:19 she will be um chatting in the chat or
0:22 typing in the chat more than she'll be
0:24 able to um verbally speak tonight so i
0:29 will fumble us through this meeting um
0:31 as the facilitator
0:33 um so i want to go ahead and it's 6 p.m
0:38 call well at 604 pm i'll go ahead and
0:40 call the meeting to order
0:42 um due to the governor's proclamation
0:45 20-28 related to the coven 19 emergency
0:48 and open public meetings this meeting is
0:51 being held remotely
0:53 also um for in the previous um
0:56 months that we've been meeting remotely
0:58 our meetings have been live streamed um
1:00 tonight we will be recording our meeting
1:03 um and it will be available to the
1:05 public later
1:07 um so that's just something to note um i
1:10 think now we can um go ahead and move on
1:13 to the approval of the minutes um would
1:15 someone like to make a motion to approve
1:18 the minutes from july 15 2021
1:23 i'll make a motion to approve them great
1:26 thank you
1:27 and then do we have a second
1:30 second christy triple thank you chrissy
1:32 and all in favor
1:36 it looks like everyone is in favor any
1:42 not in favor
1:46 okay i guess that means as a unanimous
1:48 vote um we approve the minutes from july
1:52 2021 um so now we'll
1:55 go ahead and move into the public
1:58 comment portion of the meeting
2:01 um and just a few things about public
2:03 comment if you could use your name
2:05 address and or relationship to the city
2:08 um and
2:10 limit your comments to about three
2:12 minutes um that would be great um
2:14 actually isabelle do we have anyone
2:17 in line to
2:19 for public comment tonight
2:21 i have not seen anyone um wanting to
2:26 share their public comments so far
2:30 okay
2:31 let me i have
2:33 there's one attendee
2:36 let me see oh no that's david so no
2:38 public comments
2:40 okay so no public comments we're a
2:42 little bit ahead of the agenda does that
2:44 matter
2:47 no no it's okay okay
2:50 all right well if there are no public
2:51 comments right now we can um move on to
2:55 the fun regular business of the meeting
2:58 but if someone does come online and is
3:00 interested in providing public comment
3:03 maybe that's something we can put in
3:05 uh later in the meeting as well we
3:07 always want to make sure um people who
3:09 take the time to be here
3:12 you know have the opportunity to provide
3:14 public input
3:15 um and then um so tonight
3:18 um our regular business we're going to
3:20 be talking about the tip
3:22 um you know cynthia and i are cynthia
3:24 actually and i have discussed in the
3:26 past and um we know that everybody on
3:29 this board has a lot of good opinions
3:32 and ideas and that's why
3:34 they are taking their time every evening
3:36 or ever you know one evening a month to
3:38 be a member of the board um but just a
3:40 couple things to note if there's
3:42 something someone is saying and you
3:43 agree
3:44 um feel free to just sort of say i agree
3:48 or something like that and put it in the
3:49 chat and then we can
3:51 mention you know that this is something
3:53 that's strongly supported by the board
3:56 that could be a way to sort of
3:58 increase the amount of participation um
4:00 the other thing is you know share the
4:03 error if you find or feel that you
4:06 are um
4:08 you know maybe speaking more than some
4:09 of the other board members take a pause
4:12 before your next comment and and give
4:14 some of the other members an opportunity
4:16 to also share what they think
4:19 um and then um i'll try to follow the
4:22 orders in the order of public you know
4:24 of people who raise their hand for
4:26 speaking i'll try to follow that order
4:27 in the chat but again you know we really
4:30 just want to make sure that we're
4:31 hearing from everyone
4:33 um you're everyone's a member of this
4:35 board and everyone's opinions really do
4:38 matter and so we want to make sure that
4:39 everyone has that opportunity to share
4:42 um cynthia will be typing into the chat
4:45 and i will be reading
4:48 her
4:48 feedback as we go along as well
4:52 and um
4:54 basically yeah it's really um as we're
4:57 going through the tip um it's always so
4:59 fun to get down into the details but
5:02 if there's anything um you know i think
5:04 that maybe from a staff perspective um
5:07 they're looking more for direction
5:09 guidance kind of what we're trying to
5:11 accomplish or what outcome we're looking
5:14 for more than um maybe design specifics
5:18 um and so if it's more a matter of you
5:21 know we want intersections that are safe
5:23 that's maybe more the approach to pub to
5:26 the comment versus
5:28 sort of designing
5:29 or attempting to design a safe
5:31 intersection um but when we can all meet
5:33 again we will definitely
5:36 maybe do a design um one evening because
5:39 that would be a lot of fun but for now
5:41 in the tip the kind of feedback we'll be
5:43 the staff will really want and be
5:45 looking for is sort of more of the
5:48 what we're trying to achieve in our um
5:50 in the in the improvements that we're
5:52 proposing
5:54 so with that um
5:56 i'll hand it over to isabelle and um she
5:59 can begin the presentation
6:01 okay if you give me just a few seconds
6:05 while
6:06 i start sharing my presentation
6:14 is it coming up okay my presentation
6:18 okay thank you sujata
6:20 uh thank you everyone good evening and i
6:24 am isabel i will be
6:26 discussing tonight um our uh tip project
6:31 review we will be uh following up on our
6:34 previous discussions that we have had uh
6:37 in the past few meetings also a
6:41 with me a supporter is john uh he will
6:44 be uh helping
6:46 uh tonight with the presentation
6:48 asking questions and
6:51 providing more information
6:56 so tonight we will be providing
7:00 first of all an overview of the tip
7:03 review timeline and where we are in the
7:06 process um we will
7:09 provide a brief overview of the proposed
7:12 future projects um the
7:16 format that we will be following is
7:20 first to have a brief description of the
7:23 project and its goals
7:25 we will provide an
7:26 estimate on the costs
7:28 and
7:29 also would propose the the changes that
7:32 we will be proposing um then we will
7:35 turn
7:36 back after each project each discussion
7:39 of the project we will turn back uh to
7:41 get the feedback from the board uh the
7:44 feedback from the board uh that we will
7:48 uh asking will
7:50 be may
7:51 would be based basically um on two main
7:54 questions for most of the projects but
7:57 there will be some of them that the
7:59 feedback might change
8:01 but for the most part these two main
8:04 questions that we will be asking
8:07 the board are
8:08 are the project goals accomplished with
8:11 the proposed improvements that we are
8:13 presenting
8:14 and if not then what what could we
8:17 change to accomplish those goals
8:20 of course we also welcome also the board
8:23 to provide suggestions any suggestions
8:26 on project scope changes as well
8:32 as for the project updates and what we
8:35 have done so far back in june we have
8:38 discussed the projects underway
8:40 last month we talked about mandated and
8:44 annual projects where we discussed the
8:46 strategic small capital improvements
8:48 projects
8:49 and tonight we will
8:52 continue the discussion of the
8:55 tip
8:56 but we will be focusing on future
8:59 projects
9:00 and for the next couple of months we
9:02 will continue with our discussions for
9:05 the tip and the following steps
9:11 before we go
9:13 into uh discussing each project and we i
9:17 we added this
9:19 slide to kind of uh
9:23 define what level of traffic stresses
9:25 because we will be mentioning you will
9:27 be listening to the term lts2
9:30 often and we wanted to kind of provide a
9:33 reminder of what what we mean when we
9:36 talk about lts
9:38 1 or ts2 um so the level of traffic
9:42 stress is used to explain uh
9:46 lts for bike facilities uh the lts or
9:49 level of traffic stress assigns
9:52 categories of cyclists to different
9:54 levels of com comfort portability using
9:57 a system
9:59 though these are categorized in lts one
10:02 through four and these are included in
10:05 the mobility master plan
10:07 so for lts one when we talk about lts
10:10 one that means that's the level of
10:13 comfort that most children and parents
10:16 would feel comfortable or safe using a
10:19 system an example of an lts-1 um
10:24 facility would be fully protected by
10:26 lanes
10:27 lts2 refers to
10:30 the level of comfort that a typical
10:32 adult a typical adult has uh where
10:36 he uh they may accept uh some degree of
10:39 stress
10:41 in an example of an
10:44 lts2 facility would be
10:46 like buffered lanes on semi
10:49 uh multiple vehicle lane uh facility
10:53 lts 3 is for riders who tolerate stress
10:58 some level of stress but would prefer to
11:02 ride on lower type of stress and an
11:05 example of a facility for lts3 would be
11:09 a standard bike lane on a multiple lane
11:13 where
11:14 it's
11:15 uh it's it's start it's starting to get
11:18 a little bit uncomfortable first for
11:20 many riders
11:22 the
11:23 lts4 is for riders who tolerate any kind
11:26 of tur of stress those are defined as
11:29 aggressive fearless drivers and and they
11:32 are comfortable riding with traffic
11:34 along with traffic an example of that is
11:36 the mixed
11:37 um use of of bicycle riders along with
11:41 vehicle lanes
11:43 so these are the four
11:45 level of traffic stress when we refer to
11:48 that
11:49 number with bike facilities
11:56 so this map and this is just
11:58 to kind of have a a brief
12:02 overview of where
12:04 uh the future projects are
12:08 so we are going to just
12:11 very briefly go through all of them so
12:13 you have an idea where they are but then
12:15 we will be discussing each of those
12:18 projects
12:19 um individually
12:21 so uh we have juniper street
12:24 improvements project which runs from
12:26 newport way to gilman
12:29 the three trails crossing
12:32 second phase is at the intersection of
12:34 juniper and gilman
12:38 southeast 56th bike lane
12:41 is right here and this one would run
12:43 from 220th and east lake some amish
12:46 parkway
12:49 tier 1 sidewall gaps and you may recall
12:51 that from pre our previous discussion we
12:54 talked about the uh tiers uh where the
12:57 mobility master plan uh assigns projects
13:01 for
13:02 field of sidewalks
13:04 filling of sidewalk gaps and we and we
13:06 will present that uh later in a few
13:08 minutes
13:13 gilman and third avenue shared use path
13:16 this project runs between front and sun
13:20 and sunset along this area
13:25 two 20th bike lanes
13:28 this is right here and this one would go
13:30 from 65 56
13:33 avenue to east lake sammamish parkway
13:37 tier 2 sidewalk gaps we will show
13:41 a reminder of that
13:43 map later
13:45 sunset way multimodal multi-modal
13:47 improvements is this one right here this
13:51 one would go from
13:52 front street but all the way to
13:55 didn't highlight this one uh very well
13:58 but it would go all the way to
14:00 i90 roms
14:04 the re-striping of black nugget
14:07 would run from east lake samamish
14:08 parkway all the way to issaquah fall
14:11 city road
14:15 second avenue sidewalk
14:18 this one is right here it will be at the
14:20 lower portion of second avenue and on
14:22 the improvements will be on the east
14:24 side of the street
14:27 squawk mountain uphill bike lane and
14:30 sidewalk is
14:32 about this area here it would run
14:35 through
14:36 along mount olympus and it will be
14:38 between
14:39 markham about this area all the way
14:42 through fearwood boulevard
14:46 front street and dogwood this is uh this
14:51 new section right here
14:53 and then with west lake samamish parkway
14:56 corridor improvements on this area here
14:59 kind of
15:00 on the western portion of the
15:03 city limits from 180 to 186.
15:12 so we have uh we as we mentioned on the
15:15 previous slide we have two projects that
15:17 are to
15:18 fill sidewalk gaps
15:21 and you may recall this
15:23 figure from our previous discussion when
15:26 separated um tears
15:29 between uh with the different colors
15:32 tears inside um
15:34 throughout the city and just as a
15:37 reminder uh so so these two projects are
15:40 to fill gaps in tier one and tier two
15:42 for tier one
15:44 we are
15:45 um including
15:47 filling about 24 000 linear feet of
15:51 sidewalls
15:53 we recall what tier 1 meant
15:56 back
15:57 from our latest discussions these are
16:00 four enhanced facilities on both sides
16:02 of arterials and collectors inside
16:06 central issaquah old town and issaquah
16:08 highlands
16:10 this is why we are seeing these areas
16:13 here inside
16:15 17th avenue is one example eastlake
16:18 zamasu parkway
16:20 62nd
16:21 um highlands and some sections of nine
16:26 for the tier two uh there's
16:29 which is the one in kind of the magenta
16:31 color this is where um let's say most of
16:34 the of the projects of filling up
16:38 sidewalks are uh this would include 200
16:42 about 230
16:45 000
16:46 feet of sidewalk gaps to
16:49 fill up
16:51 the tier 1 tier 2
16:53 if we
16:54 remember from previous discussion it was
16:57 in the tier 2 would include standard
16:59 sidewalks on both sides
17:02 on the areas that are within one quarter
17:04 of a mile from schools in your centers
17:08 public amenities
17:09 and local streets that are inside
17:12 central issaquah
17:14 old town and issaquah highlands
17:23 now this is where we start um
17:25 discussing each project in the oh
17:28 actually i forgot something before when
17:32 we move uh
17:34 further i forgot the most important
17:37 thing is to get the board feedback on
17:41 um on these two projects so tier one and
17:43 tier two are two separate projects
17:47 but
17:49 what we would like to get i know this is
17:51 this one is a little bit different from
17:53 the other projects where we talk about
17:55 specific improvements here we are
17:58 filling gaps on sidewalks and there's
18:01 this map with many areas to consider
18:04 for tier one
18:06 and tier two um
18:08 what
18:09 what the board things
18:12 are the areas that we should be focusing
18:15 on that we should be paying more
18:17 attention those areas that
18:19 we feel like there's
18:22 um much need to fill those gap those
18:25 gaps
18:34 i will look at sugita how we can
18:38 encourage the board to provide uh
18:41 feedback or comments on on this one
18:45 yeah i think i mean from a
18:47 so i can start and then other people you
18:49 know add your information to the chat or
18:52 or whatever but
18:54 as far as like how you would prioritize
18:56 which one of the squiggles
18:58 we do first or second
19:00 um i think what might be interesting is
19:04 to look at um the priorities as far as
19:08 um you know we i think you did a good
19:10 job of concentrating on the downtown but
19:12 is there you know pieces of downtown
19:15 maybe that get more foot traffic more in
19:17 the business areas
19:19 um where it would be easier for
19:21 residents to you know get from one
19:23 business to another without having to
19:25 get in their cars
19:27 so is you know maybe you know it's
19:30 improving those areas where there's some
19:32 economic activity happening for the city
19:35 and the schools um those feel like the
19:38 two if you had to pick which squiggles
19:40 to do first
19:41 those are probably the ones i would vote
19:43 for but um let's see what others think
19:47 julian uh you have a comment
19:50 yeah
19:51 kind of going off the line
19:53 but a few other comments
19:56 i can see uh
19:57 some of the squiggles are
19:59 along front streets and i think that's
20:01 very appropriate
20:03 um i do think there needs to be more
20:04 protection
20:06 against vehicles in the high speed areas
20:09 and high throughput areas
20:12 i do know that
20:14 all this a lot of the
20:18 sidewalks already present there on like
20:21 front streets they're just very
20:23 insufficient in terms of protection
20:24 against
20:26 against uh
20:27 motor traffic the high speed lower
20:29 traffic and another place to focus is
20:32 the residential areas you know the
20:35 more compact residential areas and
20:38 especially those that connect to
20:41 the business districts
20:43 so those are my two comments for now
20:48 and then um jerry had asked a question
20:50 if um cost was included
20:54 yeah so for the cost it will depend on
20:57 how
21:00 how much of these are we are going to
21:05 or which areas we are going to focus
21:08 and we can
21:10 uh come back with the cost on this one
21:12 um but yeah it it
21:15 it would depend on which areas we will
21:17 be uh
21:19 doing the improvements
21:25 jerry has another comment i think yeah
21:27 yeah jerry has a comment
21:30 okay
21:31 real quick i
21:32 thought um
21:35 one of the criteria was record of
21:38 perhaps accidents
21:40 and and how
21:42 the transportation
21:44 group within issaquah sees the danger of
21:48 some intersections over others and is
21:51 that a
21:52 way that you've
21:54 also
21:55 been prioritizing them
21:59 so so for these we are not
22:01 on the tiers we are not providing uh
22:05 prioritizes
22:06 priorities on specific areas right now
22:09 but the rest of the projects yes those
22:11 are these are projects that we have
22:14 chosen to discuss based on
22:16 many different elements and you will as
22:19 we go through them uh later tonight uh
22:22 you will find there's some of them that
22:25 we have either
22:27 proposing changes of have been included
22:29 based on
22:31 accident history
22:37 okay
22:39 i think so i know we have quite a few of
22:41 these to get through so um the
22:44 priorities i'm hearing right now are you
22:46 know connecting communities
22:48 um through to schools connecting our
22:51 business centers
22:53 ensuring where there's residential that
22:55 connects to schools and businesses so
22:57 those areas can become more dense and
22:59 walkable and then really identifying if
23:02 there are any sites that had the um
23:05 you know
23:06 crash or safety areas um and prior
23:10 making sure that those are sort of the
23:11 top priority but then after addressing
23:14 kind of the safety concerns in the city
23:16 or areas where there have been um you
23:19 know uh accidents then moving on to you
23:22 know connecting the schools and
23:23 businesses um as far as like how you
23:26 inter prioritize the squiggles
23:29 um and so if anyone has any other ideas
23:35 or agrees or disagrees um if you want to
23:38 just
23:41 we could um
23:44 you know add that we we we can discuss
23:47 that now
23:49 i also wanted to add um
23:51 that
23:52 connection to transit centers and bus
23:55 stops should also be
23:56 prioritized
24:00 transfer centers and bus stops right
24:03 yeah
24:08 okay and then cynthia has a comment um
24:10 she's saying that we probably will have
24:12 to do another round of criteria review
24:15 um and i think that'll be you know maybe
24:18 that is something that can get done as
24:20 we're evaluating um
24:23 [Music]
24:25 uh you know and the other comment she's
24:27 making or describing is that for example
24:30 off holly street maybe could be a lower
24:32 priority but i i think what
24:35 what could maybe help so if if this is
24:37 sort of the outcome we're looking for as
24:39 far as these you know schools businesses
24:42 transit centers and safety areas that's
24:45 sort of the big outcome that the board
24:46 is looking for then maybe
24:49 the idea is
24:51 on an annual basis as you forward see
24:54 like hey our tip for next year is going
24:56 to have
24:57 this much money for tier 1 tier 2
24:59 sidewalk gaps and then maybe you guys
25:02 could come back to us prior
25:05 to this you know as you're prioritizing
25:08 which one of these squiggles you want to
25:09 fill in
25:10 um you could come back to the board and
25:12 say okay here's what we you know of all
25:15 of these these are the three we want to
25:17 just checking in that could maybe be a
25:20 way to make sure that um
25:23 kind of that as you know as a
25:24 community-based board the
25:26 the priorities we see are lining up with
25:29 the way the city wants to prioritize
25:33 so that could be something we do as
25:34 we're you know as you're starting to get
25:36 more in the weeds okay
25:40 yeah and so cynthia is saying you know
25:42 we had more general criteria to define
25:44 the tiers but within the tiers um maybe
25:47 doing some more systematic
25:48 prioritization
25:51 within each tier yeah
25:54 so that i wanted to
25:56 pop in here with uh the comments earlier
25:58 about transit centers i would also like
26:00 to see more emphasis on
26:02 where the future development will be
26:04 coming you know hilah crossing and the
26:07 rowley center
26:08 areas i don't see as many squiggly lines
26:10 on the east side of highway 900 perhaps
26:14 i think there could be more
26:16 developed sidewalks there
26:18 but
26:19 and you know the light rail station
26:21 probably coming around in that area i
26:23 think that's a really important place to
26:25 make sure that area is walkable
26:28 thank you julian
26:30 so yeah so again isabelle it sounds like
26:32 we have
26:34 and the more we discuss the bigger the
26:36 priorities will become but uh you know
26:38 so these are some of the kind of bigger
26:40 level higher higher level priorities
26:42 we're looking at and so
26:44 again as you start knowing what you know
26:46 your future
26:47 annual budget is going to look like for
26:49 this kind of bucket of money um maybe
26:53 you know kind of coming back and and
26:54 identifying which specific projects you
26:56 can get to
26:58 um it's something the board could
27:00 provide um yes more specific input on at
27:03 that time yeah that's something we can
27:06 do so danny thank you
27:09 if there's no other comments i'll move
27:11 on to the first project
27:15 for
27:16 juniper street improvements um the main
27:18 goal of this project is to improve
27:21 vehicular and pedestrian safety and to
27:24 provide non-motorized connection between
27:26 newport way and existing trails
27:29 and we will be doing so by
27:32 building
27:33 12 12 feet multi-purpose trail on the
27:36 north side
27:37 and
27:39 on the south side uh we'll build
27:42 sidewalks only
27:44 this project
27:46 as it is currently defined it includes
27:48 carbon gutter drainage system
27:51 and but there's uh landscaping and
27:54 illumination as well
27:56 um there's there's a portion of the
27:58 roadways that are already built to the
28:00 standard so this project will complete
28:02 the trial
28:03 along with the road improvements
28:06 one important thing to note with this
28:08 project is that cpa environmental
28:11 documentation will be needed for for to
28:14 be able to complete this project
28:17 and
28:18 we will also need to
28:20 determine right-of-way and acquisition
28:22 needs
28:26 the approximate cost of this project
28:29 goes over
28:31 2 million dollars
28:33 and the change that we are proposing for
28:36 this project is
28:38 just to
28:39 on the project limits to specifically
28:42 include those portions that are not
28:44 completed like the segments between
28:46 newport and seventh and between issaquah
28:50 coffee driveway and gilman approximately
28:56 so on this area here we are providing
28:59 kind of a section uh where we are
29:02 keeping the
29:04 we are keeping the two lanes off
29:07 of the road
29:09 um we are providing six foot uh plan
29:13 i mean on the on the south side of the
29:14 street where we are only providing
29:16 sidewall there will still be planners uh
29:19 either illumination or planning and
29:22 this right here is would it is showing
29:26 us a sidewalk but it will be the shared
29:29 use path it will be shared between
29:32 pedestrians and bicyclists
29:36 if we
29:39 go back and and
29:41 and think about
29:42 what the goal is for this project which
29:45 is to improve improve the vehicular and
29:47 pedestrian safety
29:49 um and to provide them a motorized
29:51 connection between new broadway and the
29:53 existing trails
29:55 what does does the board feel like we
29:58 are meeting our goals
30:00 with the
30:01 proposed um
30:04 with the proposed
30:07 scope of the project that we are showing
30:12 are there any other
30:14 changes that the board suggests to make
30:16 sure that we accomplish our goals
30:21 okay and uh so isabelle as people are
30:23 thinking of the answer um we have a
30:26 couple of questions um so i'll let micah
30:30 has a question
30:32 yeah so you know looking at the diagram
30:35 i'm looking at on northwest juniper
30:37 street it looks like we're
30:40 i don't know maybe about
30:41 doubling or more than doubling the paved
30:45 surface
30:46 and i'm wondering
30:48 for this and for other projects for that
30:50 matter
30:52 does issaquah are there any plans for
30:56 uh some of the hybrid surfaces that are
30:59 available i'm sure there's a technical
31:00 term for them but where they're
31:02 semi-porous i've seen ones that are like
31:04 a almost like a grid and like grass or
31:07 something can grow in it but it's still
31:10 because it has some structure it's still
31:11 something you can easily ride a bike on
31:13 you can walk on
31:15 just to kind of keep a little more of
31:17 the
31:19 natural look and also the permeability
31:22 a non-paved surface
31:25 seems like you're asking about previous
31:27 surfaces and for that i will
31:30 possibly phone a friend and maybe john
31:33 uh might have um some
31:37 thing to
31:38 answer to that
31:40 yes uh first of all check to see is my
31:43 mic working okay i switched headphones
31:45 okay good
31:46 there's a couple of things on that
31:49 we can evaluate
31:51 permeable pavement which is a little bit
31:54 different than what you're talking about
31:55 because it would look or permeable
31:57 sidewalk because it would look more like
32:00 sidewalk but
32:01 or pavement but
32:03 be permeable i think what you're talking
32:06 about where you'd have the
32:09 like the concrete blocks and the grass
32:11 area in between
32:13 that we'd have a hard time meeting the
32:15 ada standards so i'd shy away from that
32:18 but
32:19 when we do our stormwater evaluation we
32:21 look at the feasibility of if we can
32:24 have permeable concrete or
32:27 some sort of treatment like there that
32:30 it doesn't always work out for a variety
32:32 of reasons but it's something that we
32:34 can incorporate into our stormwater
32:36 evaluation
32:40 thank you and then um micah you also had
32:43 it or i'm sorry julian you also had a
32:44 question
32:46 yeah it had to do with the uh scope of
32:49 the the the ending of this project i
32:51 guess how will you tie this into the
32:53 newport weight project and
32:56 particularly for the roundabout lp at
32:58 the end of this project
33:01 is i at this moment the way it's
33:04 described uh
33:06 it it is not showing like we are
33:09 considering intersection improvements
33:11 for
33:14 june uh for newport but is there any
33:18 particular
33:20 changes or concerns that you are
33:24 thinking about for for the intersection
33:27 well i did think that in a newport way
33:30 project um
33:32 the expansion there is going to be
33:34 a roundabout here on
33:36 juniper
33:38 um but i guess if there isn't going to
33:40 be then
33:41 that question is moot
33:47 john is this portion of newport the the
33:51 one that
33:53 one of uh that you are working on the
33:55 design or wouldn't be covered with this
33:59 area yeah
34:00 this project would tie into the
34:02 roundabout and timing wise i anticipate
34:05 that the new roundabout at jennifer
34:06 newport would get built first and this
34:08 one would be tying in to the
34:11 non-motorized facilities on that project
34:14 okay
34:17 thank you john
34:18 um and then jerry you had a question
34:25 i hope this doesn't get too involved in
34:28 design so let me know if it
34:31 does
34:32 but i just happen to know
34:35 on the south side there's already an
34:38 existing sidewalk by this storage area
34:42 and so
34:44 couldn't you use that instead of the
34:47 sidewalk you're showing or you talking
34:49 further i guess it's further east
34:53 so and let me know if i'm getting off
34:56 track
34:57 yes
34:58 no no no worries um so there are there
35:00 are portions that we do have the
35:02 sidewalks and um it's not and those
35:06 south uh part of the sidewalks are
35:10 are meeting this standard so what we are
35:12 trying to accomplish here is uh to fill
35:16 those areas that does not have the
35:18 sidewall built to our standards it
35:21 wouldn't be like we will be rebuilding
35:22 or turning tearing the sidewalk apart uh
35:25 and that's
35:26 basically the reason why we are
35:28 including the changes on the scope of
35:31 this work so we focus on only on those
35:34 areas
35:35 that are
35:36 do not have the sidewalk or the path
35:42 thank you and then um cynthia had a
35:44 comment
35:46 find cynthia's comment everything moves
35:48 when somebody else comments um so
35:51 comment from cynthia is that um she's
35:53 generally not a fan of bike pad shared
35:56 use
35:58 facilities and she was wondering if
36:00 there was something about this street
36:02 that makes this more appropriate for a
36:05 shared use facility versus separated and
36:08 also wondering with the growth of e
36:10 assist spikes
36:13 you know that maybe this becomes a
36:15 little bit more of a sketchy proposition
36:17 to have bike pad in the same um
36:21 in the same 12-foot
36:23 area
36:25 yeah so reason and and
36:27 john feel free to jump in uh if there's
36:30 anything else to add but uh it is uh to
36:33 my understanding the reason is because
36:35 we that's the facility that we currently
36:38 have and what we are trying to
36:40 accomplish is
36:41 to fill those gaps um if we think about
36:46 changing into something different
36:48 uh then we
36:50 will
36:51 have
36:52 to discuss of further further
36:57 bigger changes to the scope or the
36:59 project to make it easier is just
37:02 filling those gaps where we already have
37:05 that shared use path
37:08 but other than that yeah we would be
37:10 changing the bike facility of the area i
37:13 know if john
37:15 has anything else to add on to that
37:19 i'll add a little bit and that there
37:21 have been some other plans that put the
37:23 shared use path on juniper and would
37:25 have to go back and change those
37:28 i'm not
37:30 i kind of like the idea of separating it
37:32 although i don't know if it would be
37:33 feasible
37:35 we also got to be in mindful of the
37:37 right of way that we have and
37:38 trying to keep this project within a
37:40 reasonable budget but
37:43 i think as we look at developing this
37:45 project that's something that we could
37:46 look into
37:48 in more detail
37:51 okay
37:52 thank you
37:53 and then um
37:55 let's think
37:58 jamie um had a comment um janie do you
38:01 want to say your comment or should i
38:02 just read it i think it's a very very i
38:04 could say it i just didn't know um oh
38:06 yeah maybe that's your type but yeah so
38:08 just to go back to your original
38:10 question as well i think that this
38:12 just what you you have here meets what
38:14 we were discussing previously about
38:16 the goals to connect the gaps to the
38:18 sidewalk to residential spaces the
38:20 school is over here there's gilman
38:23 shopping center
38:24 and then also
38:26 that the picture on the slide if we
38:28 built the sidewalk there it would
38:29 connect to the newport sidewalk that
38:31 goes to the transit center
38:33 um so i think it meets those goals and
38:34 then to kind of address some of the
38:36 concern about the bikes
38:38 um i live on this street and bikers are
38:40 usually on the road since there's a good
38:42 like parking lane on the south side of
38:44 the road
38:46 i've never seen bikers like on the
38:47 sidewalk so
38:50 i don't know what to do with that but
38:51 that's just my comment about the bike
38:54 okay thank you jamie um that's good
38:56 input so um
38:58 maybe after um
39:01 let's think so janie asked her question
39:03 and then um
39:05 joseph you had a comment
39:08 similar to cynthia as it sounds like
39:10 would you like to make it
39:12 uh yeah i can try to make this really
39:14 quick but basically starting to like
39:16 cynthia's i don't really like that like
39:18 there's like shared like roadway and
39:19 like sort of like
39:22 like that would be like shirt for bikers
39:23 i feel like since like looking at
39:25 juniper street there's like a big
39:27 parking
39:28 lane um on the side of the road and like
39:31 in the diagram that of like the proposed
39:33 changes like
39:35 um there would be a lot of space for
39:36 like sidewalk pedestrian areas i feel
39:38 like some of that could be like
39:40 changed into bike lanes just for like
39:43 biker safety but that's just like i'm
39:45 personal opinion
39:52 thank you joseph sorry there was an
39:53 airplane flying by and thank you joseph
39:56 and then um
39:58 so we haven't heard from erica yet so
40:00 erica would you like to comment
40:04 um sure i was just yeah in the same vein
40:07 of things as jamie where um with this
40:09 and then some of the previous projects
40:11 we talked about with the roundabouts
40:12 going in at this intersection with
40:14 newport and and then i think if i'm
40:16 remembering right there's one slated to
40:18 be at holly this just seems like a
40:19 really excellent little corridor
40:21 considering like everything that's
40:22 around there like all the parks retail
40:25 and the school that's close by and so
40:27 that does actually now that i'm kind of
40:29 thinking that up out loud um
40:31 coupling what with uh joseph just said
40:34 like
40:35 maybe yeah expanding to where i don't
40:37 know if like a lot of kids are gonna be
40:38 walking to school or biking or something
40:40 or like maybe just minimizing potential
40:45 uh you know even just like bike pad
40:47 collisions i'm sure how often that
40:49 happens but um
40:51 i don't know i don't i'm wondering if
40:53 there's going to be
40:54 some bikers who are less comfortable
40:57 um or what does that be lts one um
41:01 in that
41:02 area so i don't live on juniper so i
41:04 think yeah folks who live around there
41:06 are gonna have a much better picture of
41:07 that than i am but um
41:09 to address the comment about like kids
41:11 walking to school i think
41:13 kids usually walk along hawley since
41:15 it's a lower traffic street and that's
41:17 the street that the school drop drop-off
41:19 is actually on
41:21 um so
41:22 and that's what i've observed from
41:24 living here so
41:25 i don't know
41:27 okay
41:28 yeah and maybe that bike pet conflict
41:31 and or the school route
41:33 as you get as the city is moving from
41:35 kind of the conceptual design into 30
41:38 percent that can be a conversation with
41:40 the district about
41:43 some of those safety needs
41:45 um and then julian you had a comment
41:49 yeah um basically what everyone's
41:51 talking about i do like the
41:55 the shared use path particularly with
41:58 the new development coming on
42:00 in a few years uh just on the other side
42:02 of newport here so i think that'll be
42:04 useful for people
42:06 going to goblin village and whatnot um
42:09 on that entire show this path i think it
42:10 meets the goal of of trying to filling
42:13 in the gaps or
42:15 general
42:16 pedestrian use um i do
42:19 ride on juniper a lot i i mean i'm kind
42:22 of comfortable with just going on
42:23 general lanes
42:25 but that intersection in general i do
42:27 think that needs some protection for for
42:30 bikes but other than that i think it
42:31 meets the goals
42:33 okay thank you
42:35 um so just um it sounds like um most of
42:39 the comments we a lot of the comments
42:41 we've heard if i could summarize um
42:44 sounds like um
42:46 oh and micah has a question but uh
42:48 before i get to micah's question just
42:50 sort of quickly to summarize
42:52 um it sounds like a lot of people um
42:55 the few people have spoken it does look
42:57 to achieve the goals
42:59 that were set out for the project so the
43:02 answer to that sounds like it's yes
43:04 and um it sounds like
43:08 there is some concern about a shared use
43:11 bike pad 12-foot facility
43:14 and so if there's a possibility of
43:16 separating bike pad
43:18 as you move through design um
43:21 and ensuring that you know especially if
43:22 this is going to be potentially a route
43:24 to school that that sort of safety is
43:27 considered
43:28 um and then sorry micah you had a
43:31 question
43:33 yeah no no problem i think i got buried
43:36 i was wondering whether this uh
43:40 project would eliminate parking along
43:43 the road that
43:45 i'm
43:46 seeing like in google maps
43:56 you know i
43:59 i i don't think we were considering
44:02 parking
44:03 on the road uh but it's not specifically
44:10 called out in the description of the
44:13 project
44:14 i don't know uh john if you had anything
44:17 uh with the history of the development
44:20 of this project but i don't have uh
44:23 information on on keeping
44:26 um i i don't know too much about that
44:28 part other than
44:31 i think it might have been in the
44:32 walk-and-roll plan but i'm not 100 sure
44:38 that the project itself was in the
44:39 walk-and-roll plan
44:41 i think so however i'm not a hundred
44:43 percent sure i'll have to double check
44:49 okay and we can look at
44:51 street parking too
44:52 yeah i i just always have a concern with
44:55 removing
44:56 parking
44:58 um certainly you know
45:00 a future where
45:03 we have
45:04 such fantastic other transit options
45:07 that we're at that point would be
45:09 you know great but
45:11 right now
45:13 especially people that
45:16 you know i've i've been someone that's
45:17 real head on street parking like that
45:19 before for where i've lived and uh
45:22 to have that go away would make you know
45:25 for for me my experience that would have
45:27 been a
45:28 huge negative impact to my life
45:31 i i definitely would be concerned if
45:33 this does
45:35 uh remove
45:37 street parking and if it does i would be
45:38 curious if there's an option to still
45:41 meet most of the goals or all the goals
45:43 we need to meet
45:45 with not eliminating or at least
45:47 eliminating the least
45:49 parking possible
45:55 thank you micah so i think you um
45:58 isabelle do you feel like you have a
46:00 good amount of feedback for this one
46:02 yes um
46:04 and so yeah it sounds like um in general
46:07 we do feel that this project is it's
46:09 evaluated meets the needs
46:12 but that you know the
46:15 the shared used path and then the
46:17 parking are a couple of things to
46:19 evaluate moving forward in design
46:25 and then um christy agrees with uh
46:28 micah's comment about the parking
46:31 and making sure that there's more
46:33 parking
46:34 um and janie has
46:36 um to leave so thank you janie um it was
46:39 nice to see you and we'll see you next
46:40 week or next month um okay and so i
46:44 think we can move on to the second
46:48 project
46:52 three trails crossing improvements this
46:54 is the second phase of this project um
46:57 the main goal of this project is to
47:00 improve the intersection safety and the
47:02 level of service by possibly restricting
47:05 vehicles from turning left
47:08 from juniper here until onto rainier
47:13 um so a little bit of history of this
47:15 project um
47:16 [Music]
47:18 right now
47:19 uh it looks
47:20 a little bit different than the aerial
47:22 big uh
47:24 photo for the first
47:26 phase because for the first phase gilman
47:29 loves development had removed the
47:31 pedestrian
47:32 signal that was located farther to the
47:35 west on this area
47:37 and they had installed with along with
47:40 their driveway here they had installed a
47:44 traffic signal here to provide for
47:46 improved pedestrian crossings and
47:48 uh these uh the the crossing the reason
47:52 why it's called three trails if because
47:54 of the uh the crossings for sammamish
47:57 rainier boulevard and juniper trails
48:00 um so uh this project will be the second
48:03 phase uh which would include the
48:05 improvements and juniper and rainier
48:08 and we will be evaluating the access
48:11 entering rainier boulevard from juniper
48:14 being so close now to the
48:17 newly installed signal at this location
48:20 and if you have had the opportunity to
48:23 be at this intersection you will notice
48:26 that also for pedestrian
48:28 safety
48:29 now it has what we call the pedestrian
48:32 scramble
48:33 which stops traffic in every direction
48:36 and to provide
48:40 the right of way to the pedestrians and
48:44 bicyclists
48:45 crossing the street so the cost of this
48:48 project is approximately
48:50 three million dollars
48:52 and the change that we propose it was a
48:55 minor change just with uh the
48:57 description of the project uh the
48:59 description
49:01 was basically outlining what the pro the
49:04 phase one of the project was and
49:07 now uh what we want to do with the
49:10 description is to outline more what the
49:13 second phase of the project will be
49:15 which is
49:17 evaluating the turning
49:19 the turnings here left from juniper to
49:22 rainier
49:23 and
49:25 kind of reminding what the goal the main
49:28 goal of this project
49:30 is which is improving the intersection
49:32 safety
49:33 and the level of service and possibly by
49:36 possibly reducing this left turn here
49:40 and other ways that we could do that
49:43 we will be asking the board if
49:47 restricting this left turning movement
49:50 from here would provide added safety to
49:54 vehicles and also uh other modes of
49:57 transportation
50:05 okay and as everyone is i'm thinking of
50:07 their answer just one thing to note um
50:09 so right now cynthia is typing in the
50:11 chat but honestly if you have comments
50:13 we'd love to hear your comments out loud
50:15 um so they can be in record i don't mind
50:18 um saying them but i think it's better
50:20 in your own voice so even though
50:22 cynthia's chatting um if you have
50:24 comments or questions
50:26 just write comment or question in the
50:28 chat and definitely feel free to share
50:32 personally as somebody who uses that
50:34 intersection a lot i would love to see
50:36 that left turn restricted so um i think
50:41 because there are three trails
50:42 intersecting in that area i think it
50:45 does achieve a goal of um
50:47 reducing conflict um
50:50 and improving pedestrian and
50:53 traffic safety
51:00 i concur
51:09 i'm not sure what like if i
51:12 have thought enough about it to make a
51:14 recommendation of what specifically
51:15 needs to change i just know that when i
51:18 first drove that intersection about a
51:20 year and a half ago when i moved here i
51:21 was just panicked
51:24 and so i think i i think any change
51:27 would honestly be an improvement um
51:30 but
51:32 yeah there's just so many multiple
51:33 things to be looking out for whether
51:35 it's pedestrians other cars turning from
51:37 like weird directions it's just a
51:38 confluence of streets so um whether it's
51:40 like more and or better signage um
51:45 or at like i think for me that's almost
51:46 like a bare minimum um or just yeah
51:49 eliminating a turn or something um i
51:51 agree something needs to change
51:59 thank you
52:05 well if
52:06 it does any uh does anybody want to just
52:09 nod maybe if we're all in agreement
52:11 about this one
52:15 looks like cynthia had a question oh
52:17 yeah and now cynthia has a question
52:20 so she just wants to clarify um what the
52:23 project goal would or what the actual
52:26 project mechanism would be so she's
52:28 asking
52:29 um are you saying to remove the left
52:32 turn access so westbound gilman traffic
52:35 cannot turn left
52:36 oh no
52:38 we uh it's
52:40 right here since uh the
52:44 the geometry of the inner sections it's
52:47 like having two intersections so close
52:49 to each other and now having a signal
52:51 here
52:52 entering juniper
52:54 when you try turning here to the left if
52:57 this movement when you try it off from
53:00 juniper right away after entering uh you
53:03 try to turn left onto rainier
53:11 okay
53:12 because if
53:15 so this might be a problem that makes
53:17 front street worse because it's a way to
53:19 get around sorry i actually can't talk
53:21 it just i can't talk a lot yeah
53:24 so if you go
53:26 traveling westbound on gilman you make a
53:27 left onto juniper
53:29 and then you're trying to make a left
53:31 onto rainier
53:33 so you are on juniper for that tiny
53:35 little segment
53:37 if you were turning west is that correct
53:40 yes
53:40 okay
53:41 i'm just saying that that's a workaround
53:43 that's like a shortcut if front street's
53:44 backed up
53:46 so sometimes you come through and front
53:50 street's backed up so you go right on
53:51 gilman left on
53:53 and you make a left there and then you
53:54 go left on rainier and carry on your way
53:57 so there that would put more load on
54:00 front street and provide more
54:03 congestion
54:05 because you can't get around it
54:08 then if you can't turn left there so
54:10 it's just that it would have i just want
54:12 to make sure you'd be aware of the
54:13 unintended consequence
54:16 yes and that's that's important we look
54:18 into these uh
54:20 other
54:21 impacts that we will be creating with
54:23 our restrictions on other streets
54:27 and cynthia thank you for that super
54:29 secret workaround i'm gonna try that
54:30 next time
54:32 even though that whole intersection is
54:34 bonkers to me so i tend to avoid it at
54:36 all possible cause
54:38 um i i think david has a comment
54:45 i use that
54:47 i use that intersection
54:49 several times a day almost every day of
54:53 the week
54:55 it's better now than it was
54:57 however
54:58 if you're on juniper and you're going
55:00 east
55:02 toward
55:03 gilman
55:04 paint painted on the street
55:07 big white letters white lines do not
55:10 block it so those people
55:13 turning left from gilman on the juniper
55:17 and then left again on rainier or if
55:20 they're coming
55:21 east on gilman
55:23 and turning
55:25 right
55:26 to do that same thing they get hung up
55:29 there
55:30 because people block that intersection
55:33 there's got to be a better way
55:36 to make that
55:38 information known than just painting the
55:41 stripes
55:42 on the
55:43 pavement
55:45 the stop sign
55:47 that was on juniper right there at
55:50 rainier so you used to have to pull up
55:52 to a stop sign and you'd look to your
55:54 left to make sure nobody was coming from
55:59 kind of that u-turn what i call the
56:01 u-turn off of gilman
56:04 that's where all the accidents happen
56:06 they happened there and they happened on
56:10 gilman itself off of juniper
56:13 there is
56:14 if people aren't paying attention to
56:16 that
56:17 writing on the pavement they're going to
56:19 block that intersection then it backs up
56:22 gilman and it causes additional problems
56:28 i use that street every day sometimes
56:31 multiple times a day i'm very familiar
56:34 with it
56:35 uh i
56:36 my comment is
56:38 that that's
56:40 got to be
56:41 [Music]
56:43 better
56:48 i don't even have the right words to say
56:52 it can't be just dependent on that
56:54 painting on the um street
56:57 it's got to be some other way to say
57:00 don't block that uh
57:03 that area
57:08 yes these are additional things that we
57:11 could look into when we uh come with
57:13 this project and actually no we don't
57:16 even have to wait on this project to
57:18 look at this intersection and finding
57:20 ways to improve um that
57:24 the blocking of that area
57:28 okay thank you isabel and and um erica
57:31 i'll just make your comment for you that
57:33 yes i think most of us agree that the
57:35 issaquah coffee company is the only
57:36 reason we would ever brave that
57:38 intersection um
57:41 so i think it sounds overall it sounds
57:44 like with um some of these um design
57:47 concerns addressed and maybe you know in
57:49 the short term you know
57:52 improving the paintings on the ground so
57:54 that it um is more clear about where
57:57 people you know what not blocking the
57:59 intersection maybe that becomes enough
58:01 to clean this up who knows but if not
58:04 then it sounds like overall it's um an
58:07 improvement project that um
58:10 nobody is objecting to so
58:12 um if that one's good um i think we
58:15 could move on to the next one
58:17 okay thank you thank you
58:22 southeast 56th
58:24 street bike lane
58:26 um the goal for this project is to
58:28 provide a connection to east lake
58:31 samami's trail
58:33 by providing a bike lane on the south
58:36 side of in this is
58:39 uh considering uh we are considering for
58:42 this one
58:43 on the
58:44 original description of the project to
58:47 use only the existing roadways section
58:49 with no whitening
58:51 and we are
58:53 specifically talking about that short
58:56 segment between 221st and east lake
58:58 samamish parkway
59:04 so the cost of this of this project as
59:07 as it's
59:08 currently stand on the description would
59:10 be uh between 300 and 500 000 dollars
59:16 the
59:17 purpose
59:18 uh as
59:19 the purpose of the changes that we are
59:21 proposing is to provide an easier
59:24 connection to king county trail and
59:26 added safety to bicyclists uh so the so
59:29 for this reason we are proposing this
59:31 change of specifically include six foot
59:34 of protected by lane right next to six
59:37 feet of sidewalk
59:39 and uh
59:40 going back to the main goal of the
59:43 project providing this connection to the
59:45 east lake samamish trail
59:47 with providing
59:49 these six feet of protected bilinguals
59:52 and sidewalk are we meeting these goals
59:54 it's important
59:56 to note that the previous description of
59:59 the project did not consider any
1:00:00 widening
1:00:02 but if we were to
1:00:04 put this protected by lane right next to
1:00:08 a sidewalk
1:00:09 we might be looking at uh
1:00:11 maybe maybe minor right-of-way
1:00:14 acquisition and
1:00:15 widening of the sidewalk area
1:00:23 thank you isabelle that was actually
1:00:25 going to be my question is this are we
1:00:27 thinking like a road diet like reducing
1:00:29 the lane widths or it sounds like it
1:00:31 might be some combination of weight
1:00:33 because if it's a 300 to 500 thousand
1:00:35 dollar cost
1:00:36 i i was wondering if it was just a it
1:00:39 was a road diet sort of reduce weight
1:00:42 lane width or
1:00:44 it was like it could be both
1:00:46 i believe it was considered that way at
1:00:49 previous at the original description
1:00:51 because we were not including any
1:00:53 whitening
1:00:54 in and it would it was
1:00:57 calling just for a bike lane there and
1:01:00 now what we are proposing uh maybe
1:01:03 a bike lane on that area
1:01:06 might not be feasible or
1:01:09 like to save considering the areas as we
1:01:12 reduce the lane width uh there's there's
1:01:15 it's going to be tight with the existing
1:01:19 uh roadway width um and when we do that
1:01:22 it might pose less
1:01:24 as safety um or
1:01:27 provide less safety as we intend to
1:01:29 with the bike lane
1:01:33 thank you isabel so it sounds like his
1:01:35 staff is sort of
1:01:37 reviewing kind of what's feasible either
1:01:39 within the existing footprint or you
1:01:41 know potential
1:01:43 um you know
1:01:44 widening the footprint i think overall
1:01:47 um it sounds like you know both david
1:01:50 julian and joseph they're all in
1:01:52 agreement i'm in agreement that this is
1:01:55 cynthia's in an agreement this is a
1:01:57 really
1:01:58 this is feels like a very high positive
1:02:00 bang for the buck kind of improvement
1:02:03 um that really just sort of hits all the
1:02:06 priorities that the transportation board
1:02:09 has talked about which is you know
1:02:10 improving non-motorized connectivity
1:02:13 increasing safety um so this one
1:02:16 definitely
1:02:18 feels like it would get a two thumbs up
1:02:20 from the board um and then um
1:02:23 that being said also i think jerry has a
1:02:25 comment
1:02:30 uh i'm probably one of those lts for
1:02:33 bike riders
1:02:34 i'm fearless but i always noticed that
1:02:38 this intersection was unsafe so yes for
1:02:41 300 to 500 000 what you're doing is
1:02:45 you're along with the sidewalk you're
1:02:47 going to have a
1:02:49 bike lane there
1:02:51 i have noticed in that area there's very
1:02:54 few people using the sidewalk and so
1:02:57 to get access and to cross the trail
1:03:01 across to
1:03:02 going north on the trail most bike
1:03:06 riders get onto that sidewalk and sort
1:03:09 of do a u-turn at the trail to wait for
1:03:12 the light
1:03:14 and so i'm just not sure if you guys
1:03:16 have studied
1:03:18 this use here
1:03:20 and um
1:03:22 and actually
1:03:24 i'm just my comment is is
1:03:27 the bike lane seems to work fine unless
1:03:29 the goal is
1:03:33 or the sidewalk works fine unless the
1:03:35 goal is for the bike lane is for people
1:03:37 to cross to the other side
1:03:41 and and i wasn't sure how much traffic
1:03:44 there was that way so that's my comment
1:03:47 i kind of concur with jerry um i do
1:03:50 think the connectivity to the other side
1:03:51 of the intersection is pretty important
1:03:53 i'm also a kind of on the lts4 side
1:03:57 of a cyclist and this intersection in
1:04:00 particular is kind of perilous but
1:04:03 i do think
1:04:05 sometimes i do end up on the other side
1:04:07 so i think they're
1:04:09 somehow managing the
1:04:10 alignment
1:04:11 such that you don't have to be squeezed
1:04:14 into the other side of 56 um would be
1:04:17 ideal and as always i think a road diet
1:04:20 or the crossing of east like smamish
1:04:23 would be
1:04:25 just because that crossing is pretty
1:04:27 perilous too
1:04:31 that's my two comments
1:04:33 thank you julian and then cynthia's
1:04:35 comment was that
1:04:37 she feels that the connection to the
1:04:38 king county trail is the highest
1:04:40 priority but it would be good to ensure
1:04:42 that the new bike lane can accommodate
1:04:45 the occasional cyclist going straight so
1:04:48 um jerry julian the workaround is a good
1:04:50 one where you can
1:04:52 wiggle around but as this
1:04:56 street is being reevaluated for bike
1:04:58 lanes that that's something to consider
1:04:59 as well as there could be the occasional
1:05:01 cyclist wanting to go straight to
1:05:03 connect to some of the office parks etc
1:05:06 that are further up ahead
1:05:08 um so i think but i think overall we
1:05:11 have um a good
1:05:14 amount of feedback for you all as far as
1:05:16 that this is something that um
1:05:18 really
1:05:19 um excited the board and interested us
1:05:22 and seeing it pursued
1:05:25 and thank you for providing all your
1:05:28 comments it has been uh really helpful
1:05:30 our uh very
1:05:34 will will help a lot with through our
1:05:36 process here
1:05:41 so there's no other questions or
1:05:43 comments so we can move on to the next
1:05:48 there's a quick comment from david i
1:05:50 think
1:05:55 it takes longer to unmute um just so you
1:05:59 i'm an lts4 on that crossing on my bike
1:06:02 as well my friend bill freisinger and i
1:06:05 call that darth vader crossing right
1:06:07 there
1:06:16 thank you david
1:06:21 jetta i am not seeing you any
1:06:24 more so we can can we move on to the
1:06:27 next one yeah let's move on to the next
1:06:28 one and isabel i apologize i don't know
1:06:30 if it's just me but for some reason you
1:06:32 got a little bit quieter
1:06:36 yes i think
1:06:39 i think maybe i need to be like very
1:06:41 close to the microphone to be heard yeah
1:06:45 i have noticed that on the meetings but
1:06:47 yeah it seems like that's the workaround
1:06:51 thank you thank you for letting me know
1:06:56 okay next project is uh gilman um third
1:07:00 avenue area the did did we have any
1:07:03 other comments so jetta i i
1:07:06 kind of see saw something yeah sorry
1:07:08 okay you you had a comment yeah just
1:07:12 quickly so hopefully you know people
1:07:14 make comments about a road diet for that
1:07:17 and uh
1:07:18 i was just just thinking about it took a
1:07:20 while to comment about the
1:07:23 you know
1:07:24 current use of that road and
1:07:26 i guess i i'm i'd be a little surprised
1:07:31 you can reduce the lanes without having
1:07:33 a significant impact and congestion
1:07:36 there
1:07:37 because
1:07:39 certainly at some times of the day it's
1:07:41 pretty empty but
1:07:43 that's a
1:07:44 important connector to different parts
1:07:47 of issaquah and to some amish
1:07:51 oh it might oh sorry micah just to
1:07:53 clarify i wasn't suggesting reducing the
1:07:55 number of lanes i was more wondering
1:07:58 about the reducing the lane width
1:08:01 you know there's a just i i
1:08:03 yeah i guess i assume road diet often
1:08:05 refers to
1:08:07 reduce the number of lanes okay yeah so
1:08:09 that's why yeah in this particular case
1:08:11 the width was what i was mentioning
1:08:14 yeah but this is a major through roadway
1:08:17 so that totally
1:08:18 is a good point and a good clarification
1:08:22 yes and to add on a little bit to that
1:08:24 um even though uh it won't be a
1:08:28 significant change in the
1:08:31 the capacity of the intersection
1:08:33 reducing the weight of lanes
1:08:36 would have some uh impact to capacity
1:08:39 not as big as it would be like removing
1:08:42 lanes but uh reducing uh vehicle lanes
1:08:46 does impact a little bit on capacity
1:08:53 all right on to the next one okay
1:08:57 gilman and third avenue um
1:09:00 uh shared use path
1:09:02 so the goal of this uh project is to
1:09:05 improve the bicycle and pedestrian
1:09:07 mobility and safety this project will
1:09:09 construct a combination of bike lanes
1:09:12 and shared use paths
1:09:14 so the bike lanes is considered on the
1:09:16 gilman portion of the road the one that
1:09:19 is narrower like the one we are
1:09:22 seeing on this picture and the shared
1:09:25 use path is considered on the portion of
1:09:27 third avenue when the road weight uh
1:09:31 narrows a little bit more
1:09:33 um this bike lane uh the
1:09:36 the wider portion of gilman
1:09:41 pretty much from um front street
1:09:45 where to where
1:09:47 third avenue starts and the shared use
1:09:49 path will be from
1:09:51 where gilman ends to
1:09:53 sunset way
1:09:56 the specific bike lane facility will be
1:09:59 determined as we
1:10:01 go through the design of this project
1:10:09 and the cost of this project ranges from
1:10:12 three to
1:10:14 over four million dollars uh as the way
1:10:17 it has been uh defined
1:10:20 the changes that we are proposing for
1:10:23 this project is uh to specifically call
1:10:26 the bike lane to be an
1:10:28 lts2 or better and to include sidewalks
1:10:33 on both sides of the street and the
1:10:35 reason for this change is to provide
1:10:37 more detailed information on the
1:10:38 improvements and the desired level of
1:10:41 comfort for the new byway
1:10:43 facility
1:10:45 so this area here that we are showing is
1:10:48 for the narrower part of the project or
1:10:51 the session
1:10:52 named as third avenue where we would
1:10:54 have a shared use path on both sides of
1:10:56 the road and if we
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1:11:01 think
1:11:02 when we if we think about the
1:11:05 providing
1:11:06 the feedback to this project and we
1:11:10 think about the goal again
1:11:12 is to improve the bicycle and pedestrian
1:11:15 mobility and safety along the corridor
1:11:20 for this one i will help out
1:11:24 with providing the first comment from
1:11:27 he did mention uh that
1:11:31 it seemed like on this particular area
1:11:33 uh the narrower part the third
1:11:36 avenue 24 feet of shared use path here
1:11:39 was a lot
1:11:40 to add on to the character of the area
1:11:52 micah i just want to agree with that
1:11:55 comment
1:12:01 and then um julian you have a comment
1:12:04 yeah i'm going onto the gilman side of
1:12:06 the project
1:12:08 i know it's a little bit of a touch
1:12:10 radical but
1:12:13 are there any
1:12:14 thoughts about
1:12:15 reducing that
1:12:17 one lane each side and then going from
1:12:19 there
1:12:21 i do think there's
1:12:24 that that
1:12:25 place in general i think is the under
1:12:26 utilized for
1:12:29 bikes and everything else um
1:12:33 just some
1:12:35 qualification there
1:12:37 we could take that into consideration
1:12:39 thank you jillian for uh your comment
1:12:41 you and you are um asking if we could
1:12:45 only include site uh
1:12:48 the shared use path on one side of the
1:12:50 street instead of both sides
1:12:53 no i'm more referencing
1:12:55 producing gilman
1:12:57 oh these are one lane each side
1:13:01 not just the general traffic lane oh
1:13:04 taking out one of those lanes
1:13:10 on this area here
1:13:13 yes so there's two lanes of general
1:13:15 traffic
1:13:18 could take out one
1:13:19 on each side
1:13:21 i think john wanted to add something
1:13:24 yeah no i think that's something we can
1:13:26 definitely look at because
1:13:28 it might
1:13:29 make it a little bit easier to
1:13:31 accomplish this project and like you
1:13:33 said it is kind of an underutilized area
1:13:39 i mean the right way there is two
1:13:40 hundred feet so i think
1:13:42 as is what continues to grow that's
1:13:45 definitely a place where
1:13:47 new things should be able to come in and
1:13:53 thank you julian and then um just in
1:13:56 general looking
1:13:58 at the chat it sounds like jerry
1:14:00 and david
1:14:02 um both fully concur with this plan
1:14:07 um and then um or with this improvement
1:14:10 and evaluating this improvement um and
1:14:12 then cynthia had a question and she
1:14:15 wanted to know if the ped only crossing
1:14:18 over the east fork um would remain
1:14:20 non-motorized and if so she would love
1:14:23 love love for that to remain
1:14:25 non-motorized
1:14:27 and it would be a special path available
1:14:30 only to the non-motorized so um
1:14:33 that could maybe be a piece of design
1:14:35 consideration
1:14:38 i can add a little bit onto that this
1:14:41 project would replace that with a
1:14:43 non-motorized
1:14:45 bridge that would be wider but it would
1:14:47 be non-motorized it would not be a
1:14:48 motorized crossing
1:14:51 excellent
1:14:52 that's a good piece of information to
1:14:55 um so i think um
1:14:58 you know unless you know some of the
1:15:00 other members of the board who haven't
1:15:02 um really um spoken up if anyone else
1:15:05 has any other comments um we'd love to
1:15:08 hear from you all otherwise so far
1:15:11 i think it sounds like the board is very
1:15:14 supportive of this project um and then
1:15:17 you know david has a comment
1:15:24 uh just really quick uh john i really
1:15:27 i really concur with that uh that little
1:15:30 bridge is great but you can only get one
1:15:33 bicycle on there at a time
1:15:35 and uh
1:15:36 and it's well used by bicycle so
1:15:39 widening that would be great and i
1:15:42 totally agree
1:15:43 as an old is a quiet um
1:15:48 just keeping that on motorized is just a
1:15:50 wonderful
1:15:51 a little bonus for
1:15:53 all of us who ride bicycles
1:15:56 a lot and have for years
1:15:59 and a quick one
1:16:01 for um
1:16:03 my friend who just commented about the
1:16:06 non-use of that to give you some history
1:16:10 that's the old highway 10
1:16:12 that from the
1:16:14 xxx up to the corner that was a highway
1:16:18 that was the main route from seattle
1:16:21 east so
1:16:23 now you know but you wouldn't know that
1:16:27 from past sorry throw that in there but
1:16:31 i think it
1:16:32 means something to me yeah it's a good
1:16:34 piece of history david maybe we can call
1:16:36 it the
1:16:38 highway 10 pedestrian non-motorized
1:16:42 there's an homage that'd be awesome it's
1:16:45 the history of this the way the city
1:16:47 grew is always so interesting so
1:16:49 um okay so i think overall it sounds
1:16:52 like the board is um very supportive
1:16:56 are you guys getting this theme that
1:16:58 anytime you want to add bike lanes or
1:17:00 non-motorized we all start smiling and
1:17:02 are very happy so
1:17:04 um so far i think that the board is very
1:17:07 supportive of
1:17:09 this um evaluation of this project as
1:17:12 well um so if we want to move on to
1:17:14 number six
1:17:15 thank you for your input
1:17:19 six to twentieth bike lanes
1:17:23 um the goal of this project will be to i
1:17:26 the bike network uh by by connecting the
1:17:29 employment areas to the east lakes and
1:17:32 mamey's trail um this would be
1:17:35 this project will be constructing five
1:17:37 foot bike lanes along 220th and 51st
1:17:41 street on that section that close to
1:17:44 that section that we were just
1:17:46 talking about on 56 but on the other
1:17:48 side on the north side of 56.
1:17:51 um it is assumed that this project can
1:17:54 be accommodated within the existing
1:17:56 roadways section so no widening and in
1:18:00 order to do that
1:18:01 we will need to
1:18:04 accomplish re-striping and removal of
1:18:06 the median and 51st street and
1:18:08 repurposing the two-way left-turn lane
1:18:11 on 20th
1:18:13 to be able to accommodate the the bike
1:18:18 for to be able to do this project also
1:18:21 uh signal modifications may be required
1:18:24 uh 220th and
1:18:27 56th street since we will be removing
1:18:32 one lane from that approach to the
1:18:34 intersection
1:18:38 the estimated cost of this project is
1:18:41 approximately or 700
1:18:46 or a little over sever 700
1:18:53 i think i i think i am seeing a a
1:18:56 a few comments popping up uh but yeah
1:18:59 the cost of the pro projects will be
1:19:01 over the 700 000
1:19:05 and no changes are are being proposed
1:19:08 for this project and the main reason is
1:19:10 because
1:19:12 project modifications may have impacts
1:19:14 to capacity and since we are currently
1:19:17 going through
1:19:19 doing concurrency updates we are not
1:19:21 proposing any changes until this process
1:19:23 is complete
1:19:25 but we
1:19:26 will still be asking the board if the
1:19:29 scope
1:19:31 proposed as the way is currently
1:19:33 described on this project would meet our
1:19:36 goals
1:19:37 and our goals of connecting these
1:19:39 employment areas to the east lake
1:19:41 zombies trail
1:19:47 i think david and then julian
1:19:54 um so would that also include 51st that
1:19:57 you're going to put bike lanes on as
1:20:01 just one comment as a former
1:20:05 bus driver if you look on the
1:20:07 side you'll see that that's a
1:20:09 bus route
1:20:11 that goes through there and there is a
1:20:13 bus layover on
1:20:16 the 51st street
1:20:18 that's not that important but i just
1:20:21 need you to know that
1:20:23 my guess is if you
1:20:25 put that
1:20:26 bus lane in there
1:20:28 definitely you're going to have to
1:20:30 contact
1:20:31 metro to get rid of that bus layover
1:20:36 that's the only comment i had
1:20:43 well maybe not necessarily getting rid
1:20:45 of the
1:20:46 bus stop but there's ways that we can
1:20:49 look into how we can accommodate the
1:20:51 bike lane and
1:20:53 with the bus stops
1:20:59 thank you david
1:21:01 so i think this is a fantastic
1:21:03 project um
1:21:06 because this is actually also a good way
1:21:08 bypass the
1:21:10 perilous crossing at
1:21:13 you know 50 seconds and um yeah so it's
1:21:17 a great way to bypass that crossing i
1:21:20 usually take it from basically 60 second
1:21:22 all the way up and then yeah yeah easily
1:21:26 um so i think that's great and the
1:21:29 medians um
1:21:31 i'm not sure how many turns there are
1:21:34 into the
1:21:36 various employment facilities can you
1:21:38 have an answer off the top of their head
1:21:45 yeah so that's uh when we
1:21:48 think about removing turning lanes um
1:21:52 and removing medians and that's one of
1:21:55 the things that we have to consider and
1:21:57 evaluate how much turning um
1:22:00 is being used in those areas and how
1:22:03 that would impact the rest of the
1:22:05 traffic with since we are having one
1:22:07 lane only on each direction
1:22:12 but i generally think it's just
1:22:13 fantastic
1:22:14 improvement so
1:22:16 i completely use comments
1:22:21 thank you julian and then um so it
1:22:24 sounds like overall the the board is
1:22:26 supportive of this one um
1:22:29 as well and um
1:22:31 that is good news so
1:22:35 if there aren't any other comments um
1:22:39 or concerns then i think um we can move
1:22:42 on to project number seven
1:22:45 okay so project number seven was or uh
1:22:48 one of the sidewalk tier gaps so we will
1:22:51 be advancing to project number eight oh
1:22:57 sunset way multi-modal improvements this
1:23:01 project has been identified in the walk
1:23:03 and roll plan to include a cycle track
1:23:06 uh back then in the on the walk on road
1:23:09 plan it was identified as a by a psycho
1:23:12 track and and and to address operational
1:23:15 issues with left turning movements at
1:23:17 intersections along the corridor
1:23:20 this will be accomplished through
1:23:22 roadway widening approximately for over
1:23:26 2 000
1:23:27 lineal feet of broadway widening
1:23:30 including parking lanes carbon gutter
1:23:32 drainage trees
1:23:35 sidewalls and crosswalks and traffic
1:23:37 calming devices
1:23:39 and for this project
1:23:42 modifications will most likely be needed
1:23:44 to the existing signal and geometry at
1:23:47 front street intersection
1:23:49 in order for this project to be
1:23:50 completed
1:23:54 the cost of this project ranges over 15
1:23:58 million dollars
1:24:01 and the proposed changes that we are
1:24:04 including um are to
1:24:06 provide um safety improvements also on
1:24:09 sunset way and fifth avenue because of
1:24:12 the history of coalitions at this
1:24:14 intersection
1:24:16 and also to
1:24:19 include a byte facility
1:24:22 instead of specifically to be a cycle
1:24:24 track to be
1:24:26 determined
1:24:27 since we no longer know if a cycle track
1:24:30 is appropriate and because the cycle
1:24:32 track would potentially eliminate
1:24:34 onstreet on street parking on this area
1:24:37 uh we are noting that
1:24:39 uh also with that this by facility will
1:24:45 and would include this project sidewalks
1:24:48 on both sides for this project
1:24:52 since
1:24:53 since this project
1:24:56 we are not
1:24:57 we don't feel totally sure what is going
1:25:00 to be needed for this project we will
1:25:03 most likely start to engage the
1:25:05 community
1:25:07 uh and
1:25:09 since we will be
1:25:10 engaging the community in the future for
1:25:12 this project
1:25:14 the the question that we will be asking
1:25:16 the board for this project is a little
1:25:18 bit different
1:25:20 so uh the question that we are asking or
1:25:22 the feedback we're getting from the
1:25:24 board on this one specifically is what
1:25:26 issues
1:25:28 would you like to be solved at sunset
1:25:35 thank you isabel and i think um john had
1:25:38 a quick question and then erica has a
1:25:40 comment and jerry has a comment
1:25:43 yeah i just wanted to
1:25:45 bring up a little bit of the history on
1:25:46 this one
1:25:47 about five years ago the city was doing
1:25:50 a bond measure and looked at sunset and
1:25:53 analyze different alternatives but the
1:25:55 council never adopted an approved
1:25:57 concept on it and so as we talked to the
1:26:00 do the public involvement process for
1:26:02 this project
1:26:04 over the long run that'll be part of the
1:26:06 process is to get a preferred concept
1:26:09 because that never was done
1:26:12 thank you john and then um erica and
1:26:15 then jerry
1:26:17 well mine was actually about the last
1:26:18 one but i just didn't know if yeah like
1:26:20 that that uh 222nd might be kind of a
1:26:23 welcome relief for folks that want like
1:26:25 don't want to bike the parkway and then
1:26:27 just for that you know it's a small
1:26:28 amount of blocks but then they can hop
1:26:29 up for like
1:26:30 lower lts folks or whatever like not as
1:26:33 confident bikers
1:26:36 yeah i agree i'm a total like one two
1:26:38 maybe
1:26:40 the east like sam trail is about my
1:26:42 level of comfort so yeah i hear you on
1:26:44 that one
1:26:45 um okay jerry do you have a comment on
1:26:50 on this
1:26:53 on project number eight
1:26:56 yes i had a comment but first i had a
1:26:59 question so is this mainly at front
1:27:03 street
1:27:04 and um sunset way intersection or does
1:27:07 it go further
1:27:11 all the way
1:27:13 yes it's all the way east
1:27:15 to exit 18
1:27:17 perhaps or up that hill
1:27:21 the way
1:27:22 originally described is from front all
1:27:25 the way to um further east to the ramp
1:27:28 of i-90
1:27:31 i believe this is really necessary
1:27:33 because this is an unsafe scary area
1:27:38 but i i was just wondering because i
1:27:41 remember what john was saying about
1:27:43 you know the issues that came about
1:27:46 i guess it was five years ago
1:27:48 and and i always wondered why
1:27:52 you know we
1:27:53 there wasn't some path to the south
1:27:57 maybe through where that dollar store is
1:27:59 perhaps
1:28:01 maybe you could be directing bikes a
1:28:04 different way to save money but if
1:28:06 you're going to go through this public
1:28:08 involvement
1:28:09 it's definitely really needed i'll say
1:28:12 but there's probably a lot of different
1:28:15 options and you're not really
1:28:18 thinking about the options now we're
1:28:20 just saying
1:28:21 it is a good project it is an unsafe
1:28:23 area so that that's my comment
1:28:28 thank you jerry and again um to the
1:28:31 board the kind of feedback that isabelle
1:28:33 is looking for is really um
1:28:35 it sounds like which uh different
1:28:37 priorities are we looking to solve in
1:28:40 one um
1:28:43 um so if folks have comments about which
1:28:45 priorities um and then i think julian
1:28:48 and david each julian you had a comment
1:28:53 yeah um so i think the top priority you
1:28:56 should be looking for when you're doing
1:28:57 the public engagement is
1:29:01 how people want to get to the highlands
1:29:04 access trail
1:29:06 and then how people want to get to the
1:29:09 trails in general on tiger
1:29:11 mountain right
1:29:13 um just by walking on these sunsets and
1:29:16 particularly that corridor is pretty
1:29:17 unsafe as it is right now and i feel
1:29:19 like it should have come
1:29:21 earlier particularly with the
1:29:23 closing
1:29:25 um the other side of the trail
1:29:27 for the highlands but i think another
1:29:29 big important thing is to coordinate
1:29:31 with washdot on this particularly for
1:29:34 the intersection
1:29:36 that separates sunsets from the
1:29:38 highlands access trail
1:29:41 um so
1:29:42 those are my comments for now
1:29:47 thank you julian david
1:29:52 uh two quick comments um one is as a
1:29:56 avid biker who's
1:29:58 goes up on uh
1:30:00 highlands
1:30:02 um if you wanted to bike from the
1:30:04 highlands down to issaquah
1:30:09 yes you can take uh
1:30:12 the trail down but it's gonna
1:30:14 divert you to the north end of issaquah
1:30:18 instead of being able to cross i-90 and
1:30:21 then just drop down into
1:30:24 uh issaquah we need we need to do that
1:30:26 safer but
1:30:29 after what john said
1:30:32 and long-time resident of issaquah
1:30:36 i know there's some businesses along
1:30:38 sunset way
1:30:41 and uh
1:30:43 there that's gonna be a real
1:30:45 issue that's gonna be a real hurdle
1:30:49 to get them on our side of doing this
1:30:53 i hope i've said that the right way and
1:30:55 politically correct way
1:30:58 one business has been there
1:31:01 for years since the 30s and um
1:31:05 and i know that they will
1:31:08 fight anything that happens along sunset
1:31:11 but i totally agree there's got to be a
1:31:14 way to come down
1:31:15 on a bicycle
1:31:17 or a walking
1:31:20 sidewalk so that you can walk across
1:31:23 that i-90 crossing and walk down the
1:31:27 on sunset into downtown um
1:31:31 and we don't have that now it's not safe
1:31:35 that's it thanks
1:31:39 thank you
1:31:41 and okay so cynthia has a comment she
1:31:43 said i think the challenge here is that
1:31:46 this road segment has to do a lot for a
1:31:49 lot of different users so we will um so
1:31:52 she's definitely agreeing with needing
1:31:55 to invest in the upfront process to make
1:31:58 sure we get this right so it sounds like
1:32:01 um you know with mobility being a
1:32:03 priority for for you know safe
1:32:05 non-motorized mobility mobility for
1:32:08 um traffic for cars
1:32:11 parking business you know access to
1:32:14 businesses um so there's going to be a
1:32:16 lot happening and so yeah that upfront
1:32:19 public process to really understand
1:32:22 um how people use this street versus
1:32:24 adjacent streets and move around
1:32:27 it sounds like that's going to be
1:32:29 um it's you know and it sounds like
1:32:31 that's exactly what the city is looking
1:32:33 to do is that public engagement process
1:32:37 and so
1:32:39 that will be invaluable i think as you
1:32:41 guys are moving forward
1:32:44 [Music]
1:32:45 so yeah and then um you know we um are
1:32:48 there any other
1:32:49 comments on this one
1:32:56 okay if not then i think um we can we're
1:32:59 we're making good time which is awesome
1:33:02 but um
1:33:04 you know um
1:33:05 i think we have this on the agenda till
1:33:07 about 7 50 so i think
1:33:09 um maybe we should be able to get
1:33:11 through a couple more
1:33:13 yes i'll try to go there um and but if
1:33:18 not when we can always uh
1:33:22 take uh since the these are individual
1:33:25 projects we can always retype that in in
1:33:27 an for a future meeting just a few
1:33:30 minutes okay thank you
1:33:36 restriping black nugget the goal of this
1:33:39 project is to improve the railway
1:33:41 capacity safety and efficiency along um
1:33:44 black nugget
1:33:46 this project will include
1:33:47 the addition of an uphill bike lane on
1:33:50 black noggy between east lakes and amish
1:33:52 parkway and issaquah fall city road
1:33:55 um after a side review uh we have found
1:33:59 that this road
1:34:00 roadway was too narrow to accommodate a
1:34:03 wrist striping and provide bike lanes
1:34:06 would uh require widening
1:34:09 of the of black nugget or removal of the
1:34:11 two-way left turn lane
1:34:13 and and then because
1:34:15 of the large retaining wall that we are
1:34:17 just looking at this picture here on the
1:34:21 north side and and some driveway grading
1:34:25 issues on the south side uh it would
1:34:27 become really difficult to widen this
1:34:30 roadway
1:34:32 the cost of this project is estimated
1:34:34 between 400 to over 600 thousand dollars
1:34:42 to provide uh
1:34:44 the changes that we will be proposing
1:34:48 would be removing the center
1:34:50 turning to provide
1:34:52 an uphill bike lane
1:34:54 and narrowing the through lanes through
1:34:56 narrowing the floor lanes as well and
1:34:59 but repurposing um the existing two-way
1:35:02 left-turn lanes to provide bike lanes
1:35:05 may require uh signal modifications on
1:35:08 its laser managed parkway and issaquah
1:35:10 fall city road
1:35:12 um and also uh the other thing that we
1:35:15 should mention is uh that we
1:35:18 in order before we get into removing any
1:35:22 uh two-way left turns in our
1:35:25 lane we will need to evaluate the
1:35:28 turning movements at home depot and fred
1:35:31 meyer driveways
1:35:36 and to mine again the goal uh is to
1:35:39 improve
1:35:40 the roadways safety and efficiency on
1:35:43 this area
1:35:45 if we would be accomplishing
1:35:48 this with the
1:35:50 project scope and the changes that we
1:35:52 are proposing
1:35:55 thank you isabel um i think um joseph
1:35:58 has a comment and then christy has a
1:36:00 question
1:36:03 yeah um i have a really quick comment i
1:36:05 feel like my main concern for this one
1:36:07 because i looked at it like on google
1:36:09 maps and i noticed that it's really
1:36:11 really hilly and especially in the fall
1:36:13 and winter time
1:36:15 like when it becomes really rainy or
1:36:17 snowy the road can become like sort of
1:36:20 icy or just like slippery and that might
1:36:22 be like hazardous for cars or like bikes
1:36:25 and i feel like it'd be better
1:36:28 if it was a protected bike lane
1:36:31 rather than just like a regular bike
1:36:32 lane where um
1:36:34 like a car could like accidentally skid
1:36:36 into the bike lane
1:36:38 that's just my personal opinion but yeah
1:36:42 thank you joseph christie
1:36:53 christie are you on mute
1:36:57 sorry about that
1:36:58 um so first of all uh my uh my thought
1:37:02 was similar to joseph so thank you for
1:37:05 your point um secondarily my question is
1:37:08 what is the speed limit on that road
1:37:12 it's 25 miles per hour i think
1:37:16 i suspect a lot of people speed on that
1:37:20 so i'm glad i'm glad to see that you're
1:37:22 going to evaluate turn movements as well
1:37:25 thank you
1:37:28 yes and also to add on to like just
1:37:31 joseph's point about
1:37:35 having a protected bike lane if we were
1:37:37 to use the existing roadway with uh we
1:37:41 could provide some
1:37:43 uh with re with removing the center
1:37:46 uh way left turning we may be able to
1:37:49 provide some protection for the bike
1:37:50 lane um
1:37:53 if we were using the existing
1:37:56 weight however it wouldn't be the fully
1:37:58 protected by lane we could add some
1:38:00 level of protection
1:38:07 thank you and then um jerry
1:38:12 kind of have a stronger opinion about
1:38:15 this road i'd be really worried for
1:38:18 drivers
1:38:20 to eliminate that middle left turn lane
1:38:23 because the road is very windy and curvy
1:38:27 and the cars do go fast and it's not
1:38:30 just the home depot fred meyer
1:38:33 intersection
1:38:34 there's
1:38:35 that office building and
1:38:39 and university house and a lot of other
1:38:41 places that you have to pull into um
1:38:46 this is very unsafe for bikes now i
1:38:50 agree
1:38:51 but um i i don't think because of
1:38:54 inadequate sight distance and the road
1:38:57 being so curvy
1:38:58 i don't think it's safe to eliminate
1:39:00 that left turn ring because there's a
1:39:02 lot of places where people
1:39:04 have to make those left turn lanes so
1:39:08 um maybe we're i'm going too far into
1:39:10 design but
1:39:13 anyway as a biker
1:39:15 you know you have to
1:39:17 ride on the sidewalk and it's just not
1:39:19 really a safe road
1:39:22 and those are my opinions about it so i
1:39:25 don't think it's going to
1:39:27 this proposal
1:39:29 isn't going to satisfy any safety
1:39:32 requirements
1:39:36 thank you jerry
1:39:38 um erica
1:39:40 um i'm gonna yeah i agree with pretty
1:39:43 much everything that jerry said i go to
1:39:46 that for my all the time and so i
1:39:48 um even with a turn lane there and it's
1:39:51 not i don't think it's not a terribly
1:39:53 long one so if there's like a little bit
1:39:54 of a wait just if it's like a high
1:39:56 traffic time
1:39:57 i've had to
1:39:58 you know like really like hit the brakes
1:40:01 um if i like coming around because i
1:40:03 think you come around that corner and
1:40:05 the turning kind of just starts there
1:40:07 and so now i'm worried if you take out
1:40:09 that lane that you're just gonna be
1:40:10 coming around that corner and like you
1:40:12 don't at least you have like a little
1:40:13 bit of like oh like gotta get over um
1:40:15 the way it's set up right now but i
1:40:17 don't
1:40:18 yeah it just
1:40:19 it kind of worries me but i hear the
1:40:23 need for the bike lanes um
1:40:26 yeah there's a just a lot of like things
1:40:28 going into this where like you have it
1:40:30 it's on a hill people do speed and it's
1:40:34 coming around that corner
1:40:36 until like you have a lot of folks
1:40:38 wanting to go left into like the retail
1:40:40 center there so
1:40:43 yeah i i would agree with um
1:40:46 jerry and erica on this one that
1:40:48 definitely we under i understand the
1:40:50 need for the wanting to put in the bike
1:40:51 lane but
1:40:52 this road is such a messy messy road and
1:40:55 so um removing
1:40:58 especially for people yeah who love that
1:40:59 fred meyer um removing that turn lane
1:41:02 could be a problem um so i would agree
1:41:04 with them on that one um and then julian
1:41:09 yeah this one's a tough road um
1:41:12 when i occasionally do go up this way
1:41:14 instead of highlands drive
1:41:16 um it's always
1:41:18 difficult
1:41:20 for cars behind me to get around me
1:41:23 maybe the middle lane makes a little bit
1:41:24 easier
1:41:26 but i have a question about the
1:41:29 retention
1:41:30 wall replacement how's the timeline for
1:41:33 that and then this project how many
1:41:35 years apart is that going to be
1:41:40 john you have a little bit more
1:41:42 information on that one
1:41:47 thank you i missed the question i had
1:41:49 some background noise what was the
1:41:52 timeline for the project of the
1:41:54 retaining wall
1:41:57 i think the retaining wall design begins
1:42:00 in 2023
1:42:02 and probably continues into 2024
1:42:06 and construction really depends on
1:42:08 funding could start in 2024 or 2025 but
1:42:11 it's construction is currently un
1:42:13 unfunded
1:42:16 and i'm assuming it's probably the same
1:42:19 dimensions here it won't be moved a
1:42:21 little bit upward
1:42:24 it was pretty similar i i know we've
1:42:27 done some preliminary concepts on it and
1:42:29 there might be a few changes
1:42:31 but it was pretty similar
1:42:34 as we can take the input from this with
1:42:37 the retaining mall project
1:42:39 we'd want to
1:42:41 merge it all together to make sure
1:42:44 in the long run
1:42:45 everything works out
1:42:48 i definitely do think that there should
1:42:50 be some sort of at least a little bit of
1:42:52 a shoulder here um
1:42:54 because it's just such a
1:42:58 tight
1:42:59 tight road for biking up
1:43:02 yeah and john one thing i was gonna
1:43:04 wonder about is that retaining wall
1:43:06 project is there a way to put the
1:43:08 non-motorized facility behind the
1:43:10 retaining wall
1:43:11 so everything on the ins you know you
1:43:13 have your road
1:43:16 even though i based on the slope of that
1:43:18 hill you might wind up having to stick
1:43:19 another retaining wall in so you're
1:43:20 basically
1:43:21 but i wonder if you know if you're doing
1:43:24 upgrades to the retaining wall if
1:43:26 there's a way to
1:43:28 put your facility behind the retaining
1:43:30 wall um your non-motorized facility and
1:43:32 keep the road complex for the motorized
1:43:35 and so you're really separating uses but
1:43:39 again you know based on the slope i
1:43:41 don't know
1:43:42 adding another 12 foot path might just
1:43:44 completely
1:43:46 um mess up your cut and fill and all of
1:43:48 that but right i think also the
1:43:51 limited right-of-way would really make
1:43:53 that a challenge oh okay
1:43:55 but it would be fun
1:43:59 it would be a very fun project
1:44:00 completely separate everybody um okay
1:44:03 and then
1:44:04 um david had a comment and jerry had a
1:44:06 comment and then i think if they can
1:44:08 keep it quick because just type check at
1:44:10 7 47 so i think after this one
1:44:14 we'll want to move to uh we'll want to
1:44:17 um start moving to reports um so go
1:44:20 ahead david and jerry
1:44:22 mine's just real quick
1:44:24 road is a transit core corridor the 269
1:44:28 uses that corridor so if you take away
1:44:32 that uh
1:44:33 turn lane out of the center
1:44:36 a lot of motorists use
1:44:38 bus there's i think five stops on the
1:44:42 hill before
1:44:43 you get to uh
1:44:46 where you can get up to the highlands um
1:44:49 so when buses stop
1:44:52 obviously motorists use that turn lane
1:44:54 as a passing lane to get around the stop
1:44:59 that's gonna be even more of a detriment
1:45:03 to take away that turn lane i just
1:45:06 wanted to throw that in there it's
1:45:08 definitely going to affect the buses so
1:45:11 and those buses
1:45:14 non-pandemic uh
1:45:17 there were quite a few people who rode
1:45:19 the buses up to the highlands
1:45:22 uh because they would get on
1:45:24 right there by uh
1:45:26 fred meyer and home depot and use that
1:45:29 as a shopping stop so i needed to say
1:45:32 that for you guys to consider to know
1:45:35 that that's going to be in there thanks
1:45:38 thank you and then jerry
1:45:42 i i just happen to agree with julian and
1:45:45 what john was saying
1:45:47 but i guess you don't have enough right
1:45:49 away but maybe if you're
1:45:52 replacing that retaining wall maybe you
1:45:54 can make a wider shoulder at that time
1:45:56 and it'll cost a little bit more and
1:45:59 that might be the solution so i would
1:46:01 say that perhaps number nine you should
1:46:03 just wait until the retaining wall is
1:46:06 replaced and maybe combine it as one
1:46:08 project or something
1:46:12 yeah that that's a good um way to maybe
1:46:14 close this out um on this particular
1:46:17 project it sounds like the board has
1:46:21 it sounds like the board does not
1:46:22 necessarily feel that um the way this
1:46:25 project number nine is being described
1:46:27 would meet
1:46:28 um our goals and so it sounds like from
1:46:32 the comments today that maybe the board
1:46:34 is feeling like either a
1:46:36 we pause on number nine
1:46:40 and let the retaining wall projects
1:46:43 happen um with this feedback integrated
1:46:46 into the retaining wall project
1:46:49 but that maybe the board is feeling like
1:46:51 the way this project is described is not
1:46:54 going to meet the goals otherwise
1:46:57 from the safety perspective
1:47:00 can i just get a nod from the board to
1:47:01 make sure that this is
1:47:03 in fact
1:47:05 okay that sounds like that's the case so
1:47:08 um number nine we're not ready to um
1:47:11 necessarily support um based on the
1:47:14 goals that we're looking for
1:47:20 okay so i think um we have completed
1:47:24 this was really
1:47:25 you guys this was amazing so much
1:47:27 feedback and
1:47:28 um i hope um isabelle you feel like you
1:47:31 got the feedback you needed
1:47:33 um yes yes and we can and we can and we
1:47:37 can pause with this project suggest and
1:47:40 and yeah we only have like three three
1:47:43 projects more to discuss and we can
1:47:45 bring these uh as i said these are
1:47:48 separate projects so we don't have
1:47:49 necessarily to tie this into anything
1:47:52 specific but we can um
1:47:56 separate some uh
1:47:58 a few minutes on a future
1:48:01 meeting
1:48:02 okay thank you um and thank you to
1:48:04 everybody on the board for coming so
1:48:06 prepared
1:48:08 and having um
1:48:10 like really robust and detailed feedback
1:48:12 for um
1:48:14 for staff
1:48:15 um so i think now we can move on to the
1:48:17 reports
1:48:19 um it looks like maybe the board work
1:48:21 plan is the first report
1:48:26 let me
1:48:27 stop sharing my screen so we can oh hey
1:48:30 everybody
1:48:38 bring the
1:48:40 boardwork plan yes will be the next item
1:48:45 will be for the next uh meeting in
1:48:48 september will be september 16th uh we
1:48:52 have a few
1:48:53 items on the agenda for the next meeting
1:48:56 and and we are
1:48:58 going to
1:49:01 confirm if all of the topics if we are
1:49:03 ready for all of the topics or we or we
1:49:06 would be moving some of them but the
1:49:08 items that we had in discussion is to
1:49:10 continue with the transportation
1:49:12 improvement program project update
1:49:15 in the september meeting discuss
1:49:17 transit system
1:49:19 um and the northwest managed role
1:49:22 non-motorized project discussion also
1:49:25 that we had scheduled for this meeting
1:49:27 but we had to move for the next one and
1:49:30 we also have on
1:49:32 for that meeting the racial equity
1:49:34 discussion
1:49:36 one of the we probably want to
1:49:39 um discuss whether there are a few of
1:49:43 those topics that could be moved
1:49:45 to another meeting or
1:49:50 because yeah
1:49:51 if we're we have four topics on the the
1:49:53 agenda so we probably want to discuss if
1:49:58 would
1:50:00 continue with those four topics or move
1:50:03 things around
1:50:10 isabel is that um do you need feedback
1:50:12 from us now or is that something we
1:50:14 should think about and then
1:50:16 no i think we we can do on with the
1:50:18 board shares um
1:50:20 check-in later we can okay we can make
1:50:23 that decision
1:50:25 okay thank you
1:50:27 um okay so if that's what we have on
1:50:30 board work plan um let's move on to a
1:50:33 staff report
1:50:36 yes so for the staff report i'll start
1:50:40 first and then we'll uh
1:50:42 leave john to continue i have a um
1:50:46 an interesting
1:50:48 uh announcement we
1:50:50 just applied last week
1:50:52 for a grand application um on
1:50:56 12900 project
1:50:58 that project is currently on design and
1:51:01 we have
1:51:02 secured funds for the design and for the
1:51:05 right-of-way phase of that project so
1:51:07 the grand application is for the
1:51:09 construction to
1:51:11 secure uh if we get we are
1:51:15 positively hopeful that we would get
1:51:17 this grant
1:51:18 and and if we do we would get three
1:51:20 million dollars for construction
1:51:23 bonds for the the 12 and 900
1:51:26 improvements
1:51:29 then i will head over to john if he
1:51:33 i've has a couple items
1:51:35 the first one is this weekend alfresco
1:51:38 on front street starts and it'll go for
1:51:40 four weekends
1:51:43 the city staff are working on putting
1:51:46 together the budget and
1:51:48 that will get published this fall and
1:51:50 then the council will
1:51:52 have budget deliberations but there will
1:51:54 be a number of transportation items
1:51:56 included in the budget
1:51:59 this fall we're going to begin design on
1:52:01 a couple overlay projects that we got
1:52:03 grant funding for the first ones on east
1:52:06 lake smamish parkway and it'll go from
1:52:09 black nugget road to southeast 50th
1:52:12 which
1:52:13 that is just a little street just north
1:52:16 of 51st street
1:52:18 the project limits were based on what
1:52:20 looked like would score the best in the
1:52:22 grand application
1:52:23 and then on southeast 43rd from
1:52:27 the roundabout up to where the new
1:52:30 pavement
1:52:31 is near the providence ridge subdivision
1:52:35 and that's what i've got
1:52:43 thank you john um so is that it for
1:52:45 staff report
1:52:46 i think that would be it only stephen
1:52:49 has anything to add
1:52:55 he's still on mute so i'll assume now
1:52:57 and we can circle back to stephen if he
1:52:59 does um
1:53:01 chair report cynthia do you have
1:53:03 anything no okay and i don't except for
1:53:07 being super excited
1:53:09 about alfresco on front
1:53:11 i don't have anything else to add
1:53:14 oh and then my fears that now schools
1:53:16 are starting um on the 31st so everybody
1:53:19 wear your patients hats
1:53:21 and be prepared
1:53:23 for many many buses
1:53:25 and children and
1:53:29 all of that because we've all enjoyed
1:53:30 this summer without all of that and a
1:53:32 lot of last year but 31st
1:53:35 it's full steam ahead for the school
1:53:36 district so i'll just put that out there
1:53:38 as well um and and put your children on
1:53:41 buses if you can and wear a mask and
1:53:43 open your window and use public
1:53:45 transportation or disturb transportation
1:53:49 and then uh lastly the youth report
1:53:52 um so i i don't know if we have a youth
1:53:56 report today joseph um
1:53:58 yeah i kind of have a youth report so
1:54:01 essentially i'm working on the city
1:54:02 proposal um for basically like
1:54:05 increasing the number of electric
1:54:06 vehicle spots um or to like incentivize
1:54:09 like this shift towards electric
1:54:11 vehicles
1:54:12 i haven't really finished it up yet but
1:54:15 um eventually i might reach out to you
1:54:17 guys for like um
1:54:19 like sort of help on like petition just
1:54:21 like signing it but yeah i just want to
1:54:23 give you all a heads up
1:54:26 thanks joseph that's a really
1:54:28 that's a cool idea
1:54:34 so i think we're through the reports um
1:54:36 one other i don't know um
1:54:40 if anyone um isabel if anyone is signed
1:54:43 up for i don't see anyone else for
1:54:45 public comment but i mentioned at the
1:54:47 top of the meeting if anyone had any
1:54:49 comments we could bring it to the
1:54:51 end of the meeting so i don't know if
1:54:53 there's anyone there yes i don't see
1:54:55 anything okay great
1:54:57 um so that's good news um so a few other
1:55:01 business announcements um the next
1:55:03 meeting is scheduled for
1:55:05 september 16th
1:55:09 and then if there aren't any other
1:55:12 comments um i think we could be ready to
1:55:15 adjourn
1:55:17 and and the meeting is to still be um
1:55:20 from our homes in zoom correct
1:55:24 yeah i think the city is still looking
1:55:26 at virtual
1:55:29 that's my understanding that
1:55:31 and i can't remember if it's either
1:55:33 until we're through november boards and
1:55:35 commissions will still be meeting online
1:55:41 thank you john someday we'll all get
1:55:43 together and do
1:55:45 you know design exercise on paper with
1:55:47 sticky notes um in the real world i i
1:55:50 envision it and it will hopefully happen
1:55:52 someday but okay so yeah um next meeting
1:55:55 will will continue to be virtual for a
1:55:57 few more months
1:55:58 um so if there's nothing else i think um
1:56:02 it's 7 59 and we can just adjourn right
1:56:05 like we don't have to
1:56:07 okay great so it's 7 59 and i hope
1:56:10 everyone has a good night and
1:56:12 we're adjourned thank you
1:56:16 thank you
1:56:16 thank you
1:56:19 thanks sujata
1:56:22 great job