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Thursday, January 21, 2021

6:00 PM · 1h 56m
Topics tracked across meetings:
2022-2027 Capital Improvement Plan, including Transportation Improvement Program AB 8123 2/9
Adoption of Board Rules & Regulations 1/2
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD Staff Liaison Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner About Email Stephen Padua Created in 2017, the board provides additional expertise and advice on the City's Regular Members transportation system and goals. 2021* - Cynthia Krass 2021* - Janie Walzer Membership 2021 - Tom McDonald The Transportation Advisory Board is 2021 - Erika Boyd comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2021 - Joseph Zhang** three alternates. All members are appointed 2022 - Sujata Goel by the Mayor and subject to confirmation by 2022 - Micah Zeitz-Chua the City Council. Terms expire April 30 of the 2023 - Kristi Tripple year listed. For more information, 2023 - Dave Waggoner see IMC 2.92. Alternate Members 2021 - Alec Yildirim** 2022 - Jeri Bernstein 2022 - David Holzberg
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of Nov. 19, 2020
packet pp.5–6
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 11-19-20 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board – Special Meeting 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting November 19, 2020 MINUTES
2b
Minutes of Jan. 11, 2021
packet pp.7–8
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 01-11-21 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board – Special Meeting 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting January 11, 2021 MINUTES
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Election of Chair and Vice-Chair
Action · 10 min · Board Member Cynthia Krass, Vice Chair · packet pp.9–11
Topics: Elections
Staff report:
Public Works Engineering 1775 – 12th Ave NW | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3400 issaquahwa.gov
4b
Adoption of Revised Board Rules & Regulations, (A)
20 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.13–18
Staff report:
Table of Contents ARTICLE I – BOARD NAME _____________________________________________________________ 2 ARTICLE II – MEMBERSHIP _____________________________________________________________ 2 ARTICLE III – OFFICERS AND DUTIES______________________________________________________ 2 SECTION 1: OFFICERS _______________________________________________________ 2 SECTION 2: CHAIR __________________________________________________________ 2 SECTION 3: VICE-CHAIR _____________________________________________________ 3 SECTION 4: SUPPORT STAFF __________________________________________________ 3 ARTILE IV – MEETINGS ________________________________________________________________ 3 SECTION 1: REGULAR MEETINGS ______________________________________________ 3 SECTION 2: SPECIAL MEETINGS _______________________________________________ 3 SECTION 3: QUORUM…
4c
Introduction of Transportation Improvement Plan, (D)
30 min · Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.19–64
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
Each year, the City Council adopts a Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) which is a list/description of projects, anticipated costs, anticipated funding sources and years in which planning and construction will likely occur. The TIP includes projects identified in the Central Issaquah Plan, the Walk-n-Roll Plan, the adopted Concurrency model and the recently developed Mobility Master Plan. The purpose of the TIP is to identify transportation-related projects that are – or may become eligible for Federal, State, and/or local funding. Additionally, the TIP is the transportation component of the Capital Improvement Plan, which is updated biennially.
5. REPORTS
5a
Board Work Plan
packet pp.77
Staff report:
MARCH SEPTEMBER 3/18/21 • Discuss Pedestrian Crossing updates 9/16/21 • Transportation Improvement Program • Streetscape Plan Update project update • Discuss Street Standards updates - • Discuss traffic calming updates Phase 1 • Discuss transit system
5b
Staff Report
5c
Chair Report
5d
Youth Report
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
The next meeting will be in early February
0:00 first meeting of the issaquah
0:01 transportation advisory board
0:05 and we don't approve agendas so the
0:09 first
0:10 item oh yeah so my name is cynthia cress
0:12 and i'm the vice chair of the
0:13 transportation advisory board
0:16 and the chair for this evening or at
0:19 least so far
0:20 um the first item on the agenda after
0:23 call to order is approval of minutes did
0:25 everyone have a chance to
0:27 review the minutes
0:30 if everyone's comfortable i would
0:32 entertain a motion to approve
0:34 both minutes can we do them in one
0:36 motion
0:38 i second the motion
0:42 uh all in favor
0:45 aye aye
0:48 on simple things like this i'll just say
0:50 anyone opposed and
0:52 going once going twice okay so minutes
0:54 are approved
0:56 if it's a more substantive issue i'll
0:58 probably make sure that we hear from
0:59 everybody
1:00 um but i don't think we're doing
1:01 anything like that anytime soon
1:03 um so third on the agenda
1:07 is public comment i don't see anybody
1:09 but i don't want any assumptions is
1:10 anyone here to make public comment
1:11 tonight
1:13 i don't see anyone else um
1:16 calling in tonight okay
1:19 so that brings us to item 4a regular
1:23 business
1:25 um steven prepared uh
1:28 suggest sent some suggested comments
1:30 shall i just
1:31 would that be my turn to go next stephen
1:34 or do you want to jump in first
1:38 okay so um
1:41 i guess this isn't in the script but uh
1:43 i am seeing this
1:44 script pretty much but so nina million
1:47 was our
1:47 chair i'm acting as the chair tonight as
1:50 the vice chair
1:51 but the board this new board
1:55 actually i'm not really sure when we're
1:56 supposed to be picking the chair in vice
1:58 chair
1:59 but um we're late in the cycle so we
2:02 would
2:02 be doing it again in may but uh so in a
2:06 way this is a good practice run
2:09 so they gave a sample script so i guess
2:12 the following process will be used to
2:14 elect officers
2:15 uh first i'll call for nominations and
2:17 when all the nominations have been made
2:19 i will close the nominations
2:22 um and then we would vote so
2:25 um the boardrooms would be provide an
2:27 opportunity to discuss
2:29 and then people would vote and then we
2:32 would move to the
2:33 vice chair so um
2:36 first i will i must see stephen has any
2:39 course correction i will at this time
2:41 call for nominations for the chair
2:47 i nominate cynthia for a chair thank you
2:52 [Applause]
2:54 are there any other nominations for
2:55 chair
2:59 okay so now
3:02 the board members are provided
3:04 opportunity to discuss them
3:05 okay if there's if only one nomination
3:07 is made the member is considered elected
3:09 by the position by unanimous consent
3:12 um there was a little blurb that i wrote
3:16 in the nomination um i think the only
3:19 thing i just want to
3:20 comment on real quick is that uh i think
3:22 it's really important for this process
3:25 these two thirds of the board is brand
3:27 new and so
3:28 this went along a little more of a
3:30 default
3:32 but i want to make sure that everybody
3:33 feels like anybody who wants to serve in
3:35 this role
3:37 um that you know this is not
3:40 something that gets decided just
3:42 necessarily by staff
3:43 or is any kind of default um
3:46 we just yeah so um
3:50 i appreciate the nomination and i accept
3:53 and since there's no other nominations
3:55 i'll
3:55 make last call for other nominations and
3:57 then the um
3:58 procedure procedures and that if since i
4:01 accept the nomination then i would be
4:03 deemed the chair last call any other
4:05 nominations for chair
4:09 okay yay thank you i'll be happy to
4:12 serve as your chair
4:16 uh the next thing we would do the same
4:17 process then for vice chair
4:19 uh the vice chair service um in the
4:21 event that the chair is unable
4:23 um and when i was vice chair i kind of
4:26 went along
4:26 with the meetings with staff um with
4:28 naya and that
4:29 uh made it easy certainly i think in her
4:32 second meeting
4:33 i had to serve as a chair for the
4:35 evening because she was
4:36 on the trip so good chance that that
4:38 vice chair will be called
4:40 upon during the meeting um so
4:43 now i will call for nominations
4:48 uh this is tom and i would nominate
4:51 sujata
4:54 i was planning on also nominating sujata
4:57 oil
5:01 any other nominations for vice chair
5:09 all right well um so joshua do you want
5:11 to make any comments before we just
5:12 declare it so being that there's no
5:14 other nominations or maybe we give one
5:16 last call for
5:17 the second nomination
5:21 um thank you for nominating me i
5:23 appreciate that
5:25 and the next thing is as cynthia
5:27 mentioned that this is something
5:29 we'll be chair and vice chair until may
5:31 so as
5:32 the new members are on boarding you know
5:35 we'll have another opportunity if people
5:37 are
5:37 as you're getting your feet wet and more
5:39 interested and passionate about
5:41 what the board is up to then in may
5:43 there will be that
5:44 you know opportunity again to maybe
5:46 nominate yourself or nominate others
5:49 who could be a good fit for these roles
5:51 as well so
5:53 all right last call for another
5:54 nomination for vice chair
5:59 all right seeing none hearing none i'm
6:01 going to close that and then sujata
6:04 is therefore named
6:07 she's considered elected to the position
6:09 by universe consent
6:11 um and then i think that concludes the
6:14 chair
6:14 um selection of chair and vice chair
6:17 steven did i miss anything
6:20 i think you covered it all all right
6:24 good nice job congratulations to both of
6:27 you
6:27 thanks all right so moving on
6:31 then then i'll continue then for this
6:33 evening as then would i be then
6:35 the chair starting this moment does this
6:37 trend this big transfer of power just
6:39 happened uh okay
6:42 um so uh moving on to adoption of the
6:46 revised board rules and regulations
6:48 those were um that's item 4b those are
6:51 in your packet
6:53 i know we spent a little time with the
6:54 these when the board first
6:56 formed roughly two years ago
6:59 i reread them today i didn't see
7:02 anything in there that i was interested
7:03 in changing
7:04 um but is there anybody that wants to
7:07 talk about
7:07 any provision in there did everyone have
7:10 an opportunity to read them and did
7:12 anyone have any suggestions or questions
7:15 that they want to discuss so
7:18 um i guess i'm not sure the procedure
7:20 for for speaking up should i be
7:22 using the raise hand button is that
7:23 something that we're trying to use or
7:25 just
7:25 just openly share i'm brand new as the
7:28 chair
7:31 for uh comments and questions just enter
7:34 and just type in
7:35 comment or question and then the chair
7:38 vice chair or staff will
7:40 kind of call people out as we see things
7:42 it helps us kind of keep track of
7:44 who has a comment and when
7:47 oh i just opened the comments i will try
7:49 to also remember to track comments
7:51 and i think it's really important to put
7:54 just
7:55 not the substance but just the that i
7:57 have that you have a comment or a
7:58 question because
7:59 it becomes a little harder for everyone
8:01 to track
8:02 um you don't really want to leave
8:04 substance in the chat um you want to you
8:07 want everybody to be hearing it
8:08 real time so i would definitely
8:12 ask that people just put in that they
8:14 have a question or a comment and not
8:16 actually be putting those in the chat i
8:17 don't know if the city has a particular
8:19 practice but that's something i've
8:21 noticed in some of these kinds of
8:23 meetings that it's important
8:25 to keep everyone on the same page yeah
8:27 that's correct
8:28 the main thing is that what goes into
8:30 the chat it doesn't get recorded
8:32 and added to kind of the meeting minute
8:34 so that's why we ask that you say your
8:36 actual questions
8:38 over the video
8:41 um so if nobody has any comments
8:44 i will entertain a motion to adopt the
8:48 uh minute the main change is just the um
8:50 the meeting date so that's why we had to
8:52 even revisit this at all if i remember
8:54 correctly stephen
8:55 um and i also know that just if you guys
8:57 have read your november meeting minutes
8:59 you might notice that there was a member
9:00 of the community that asked us to extend
9:01 the public comment period to five
9:03 minutes
9:04 but i personally think three minutes is
9:06 more than enough time it's a volunteer
9:07 board it's an advisory committee we're
9:09 not um
9:10 taking actions at buying council so i
9:13 think
9:13 three minutes lots of other agencies
9:16 have two minutes
9:17 um so i personally thought three minutes
9:20 so i noticed
9:20 it hadn't been suggested that we changed
9:22 that and i agree with that
9:24 um but if there aren't any other
9:26 questions or comments i would entertain
9:27 a motion to adopt
9:29 micah has a comment a question
9:32 thank you michael go ahead so
9:35 i'm assuming by the red text on the
9:37 third thursday that's the only change
9:40 uh from previous versions of this
9:43 and assuming that's true has there been
9:46 anything you brought up the five minutes
9:47 first three minutes
9:48 has there been any other comments about
9:51 this that
9:52 that have been looked at recently and a
9:54 change made or not changed that we
9:56 should
9:56 specifically look for in here uh
10:00 even from the last time we looked at the
10:04 rules and procedures we didn't make much
10:06 changes we did
10:07 look at um participation particularly
10:11 the
10:11 the amount of time allowed for public
10:12 comment and even then the board settled
10:15 on three minutes as being
10:16 more than enough time for public comment
10:19 other than that the only other change
10:22 that i think i'll be making
10:23 is it says public works engineering
10:25 department we are now actually just
10:27 public works
10:28 so it'll it's just a very small
10:32 minor name change for our department
10:35 thank you
10:38 and then erica i think you had a
10:44 question
10:51 go ahead
10:56 you think she's not hearing us it might
10:58 be on mute
11:13 um she might not hear us all uh i'm
11:16 gonna ask her to type her question and
11:17 then i'll read it out loud
11:19 okay
11:22 um otherwise do you wanna
11:25 still fit more comments or questions on
11:27 the rules procedures
11:29 yeah well we're waiting for erica to
11:32 have a chance to say what's on her mind
11:34 is there anyone else that has any
11:35 questions or
11:36 oh joseph go ahead joseph
11:39 um yeah that's just a small question it
11:42 might actually be a dumb question
11:43 but um since you're in section 10 that
11:46 starter business
11:47 um part of his approval minutes um what
11:50 exactly is like the purpose of the
11:52 approval minutes part
11:57 uh steven i'll let you take that one if
11:58 you want could you repeat the last part
12:00 of your question jose
12:03 um yeah uh just essentially like what's
12:06 the purpose for the approval of
12:08 minutes i just
12:12 because we have to have a record
12:16 an official record of what was discussed
12:18 at our meetings following each meeting i
12:20 have to report out on
12:22 what was typed in or or what was
12:24 discussed in each of ours even though
12:26 these meetings are recorded and posted
12:29 it's nice to have
12:30 a brief summary uh available for anyone
12:33 who just wants to briefly just read
12:35 through what was discussed
12:36 or feedback that was provided by the
12:38 board
12:40 and then there could be the first draft
12:42 could have a mistake in it so let's say
12:44 somebody that
12:45 said someone wasn't there but they
12:46 really were or vice versa or
12:48 you know something was overlooked it
12:50 just because it does become part of the
12:51 record
12:52 you just want everyone to have a chance
12:55 yeah right and the other part is that we
12:58 all agree
12:59 to the million minutes of what was
13:00 discussed at the last minute so no
13:02 ambiguity
13:05 so um erica can you hear me off
13:18 yes
13:23 i think erica is having i'm unneeded oh
13:26 yes
13:32 go ahead erica
13:41 so erica sent me a message um she had a
13:44 clarifying question
13:46 confirming whether or not we'll be
13:47 continuing with the youth report that
13:49 was something that i was going to
13:50 discuss kind of at the end
13:51 after everybody had their comments and
13:53 questions but there is a question on
13:55 whether or not we want to have the youth
13:57 report added to the end of the agenda
13:59 um that was a question i was going to
14:01 pose to the board
14:03 the original intent of having
14:06 the youth report on there was to allow
14:09 our youth members to report out on any
14:11 activities that
14:12 might be going on in the community that
14:14 we wouldn't hear otherwise about
14:17 but it is something that we we haven't
14:20 had much luck about
14:21 getting much youth report out and
14:23 hearing from previous youth members that
14:26 it's it it may be helpful if the youth
14:28 members were participating on other
14:30 boards
14:31 but typically they don't get our
14:33 community so
14:34 it it's suggested that we potentially
14:36 remove it and just have
14:38 our board work plan kind of replace its
14:40 place on the
14:41 end of the agenda
14:45 joseph alec do you two have any thoughts
14:48 on that
14:56 um i don't necessarily have any opinion
14:58 on that um i am on
15:00 some other boards like the esco youth
15:03 advisory board
15:04 but i don't necessarily have an opinion
15:06 on like
15:07 keeping it essentially
15:12 okay
15:16 stephen i'm confused uh currently does
15:18 it say uh can you remind me
15:20 i did read through these but does it is
15:21 these report in the
15:23 document that we're about that we're
15:25 considering at this time no that's why i
15:27 was going to ask afterward
15:30 uh in other words uh do we want to add
15:32 it to this
15:33 well i guess i'm confused why you want
15:35 to talk about that afterwards because
15:36 we'll just
15:37 we're just about to adopt do we not have
15:38 to adopt yeah it's adoption of the
15:40 revised board rules and regulations
15:42 wouldn't we want to finish revising it
15:44 and adopt it once and for all
15:46 we for the youth report we don't
15:47 actually have to list that in the rules
15:49 and procedures
15:50 we just have to have reports like right
15:52 more things just not
15:54 that's the correct right now the the
15:57 procedures just outline the order of
15:58 things first so that would be under
16:00 item f other business and announcements
16:03 correct
16:04 got it gotcha
16:07 well how about if we table that youth
16:08 report then until later
16:10 and i'm inclined to keep it until we're
16:12 all sure with this new board that we
16:14 don't
16:14 want it but i also don't want to put an
16:16 onus on someone to prepare something if
16:18 they're
16:18 not thinking it has a lot of value but
16:20 um let's go back to the business at hand
16:22 which is do we
16:23 uh are we interested i would entertain a
16:25 motion to adopt these rules as
16:27 written um
16:30 is there anybody motion to
16:33 adopt or revise board rules and
16:35 regulations
16:38 i second it all right all those in favor
16:42 oh wait hold on any discussion
16:45 all those in favor hi
16:48 hi hi any opposed
16:54 all right motion carries uh and thank
16:56 you joseph for asking your question
16:57 and i am personally someone who doesn't
16:59 think there's really any dumb questions
17:01 uh you know we're all coming at this
17:03 with different experiences different
17:05 um yeah knowledge base
17:08 and if we are embarrassed to ask dumb
17:11 questions and i don't think we'll be as
17:12 productive so
17:13 i appreciate you doing that i always
17:15 have lots of dumb questions
17:17 sometimes i ask the same ones more than
17:19 once
17:22 okay so moving on to item 4c
17:25 introduction of the transportation
17:27 improvement plan i'm going to turn it
17:29 over to john
17:30 and not stephen but john is that right
17:33 okay take it away john hello
17:41 john you're on music i was the first one
17:43 to do that tonight
17:46 let me get my presentation loaded and
17:48 we'll begin with it
18:01 [Music]
18:12 okay because i can't see the screen is
18:14 it showing you guys the
18:17 powerpoint and reason okay thanks tom
18:22 all right good evening i'm john morton
18:24 the transportation engineering manager
18:27 and tonight's presentation is an
18:29 overview of the transportation
18:31 improvement program
18:34 it's got a lot of content and so if you
18:37 have a question
18:39 just feel free to go with the procedures
18:42 and we'll stop wherever we're at and
18:44 just take care of the questions as they
18:46 come up
18:48 and
18:54 so the the first we're going to cover a
18:56 variety of things including just a
18:58 general overview of
19:00 what is the transportation improvement
19:02 program
19:04 and how it relates to other city plans
19:07 such as the mobility master plan
19:10 the comprehensive plan and the capital
19:13 improvement plan
19:16 i'll talk a little bit about the
19:17 projects that are included in the
19:19 transportation improvement program as
19:22 well as the funding that we use
19:24 to support these projects and talk about
19:27 what the next steps will be going
19:28 forward
19:36 the transportation improvement program
19:40 is a six-year short-range planning
19:43 document
19:45 it shows the transportation projects
19:47 that the city will be working on over
19:49 the next six years
19:51 and identifies the funding for the
19:53 different projects in it
19:54 it gets updated every year
20:02 the items that are required for our
20:05 transportation improvement program
20:07 are it needs to be consistent with the
20:09 comprehensive plan
20:15 the city council is required to
20:18 adopt it every year the due date to
20:21 adopt it
20:22 is july 1st and it gets adopted after a
20:26 public hearing
20:28 and then once it's been adopted the city
20:31 has 30 days to
20:32 file the transportation improvement
20:34 program with the state
20:36 secretary of transportation
20:41 earlier i mentioned that the the tip or
20:44 the transportation improvement program
20:46 needed to be consistent with the city's
20:48 comprehensive plan
20:54 the cities cities like the issaquah
20:58 are required to have a comprehensive
21:01 plan
21:02 and it's really the establishes
21:04 issaquah's
21:05 future and policy direction
21:10 and guides the day-to-day decisions of
21:12 the city
21:16 it's required the city of israel is
21:18 required to have a comprehensive plan
21:23 by the growth management act
21:26 jessica was comprehensive plan has
21:30 nine elements and the transportation
21:32 element
21:33 is one of the nine elements
21:38 the mobility master plan was a
21:43 planning document for the city's
21:45 transportation system and mobility in
21:47 essequa
21:48 it was recently completed this
21:52 mobility master plan has four chapters
21:54 talking about
21:57 the mobility system today and the future
22:00 growth coming to the city
22:01 plan development the goals and policies
22:06 and the plan implementation the goals
22:08 and policies from the mobility master
22:11 plan
22:11 where recently and last december
22:14 adopted or included in an update
22:18 to the comprehensive plan and the they
22:20 were
22:21 added to the transportation element or i
22:24 should say replace the transportation
22:26 element in the comprehensive plan
22:30 the current phase for the mobility
22:32 master plan is
22:33 the plan implementation
22:40 the other plan that the transportation
22:42 improvement program relates to
22:44 is the city's cip or
22:47 capital improvement plan and the
22:50 simplest way to think about it
22:52 is this the capital improvement plan has
22:55 many chapters
22:56 and the transportation improvement
22:58 program is one of the chapters
23:01 other chapters are for the different
23:03 utilities like the water
23:05 and sanitary sewer capital facilities
23:08 like our buildings
23:09 our the city's parks and
23:13 other buildings ex large
23:17 technology infrastructure that the city
23:20 has
23:23 and the capital improvement plan is
23:25 updated
23:26 every two years the transportation
23:29 improvement
23:30 program is updated every year and so
23:32 that's
23:33 one little difference and so this year
23:36 we are
23:36 the city is updating both the cip and
23:40 the tip at the same time
23:42 and then next year only the
23:45 transportation improvement program will
23:47 be updated
23:50 and this page is just really a summary
23:53 what i was trying to explain where
23:57 the city prepared the mobility master
24:00 plan
24:00 and that went into the transportation
24:04 element of the comprehensive plan
24:07 which then guides the transportation
24:10 improvement program
24:11 which then is included in the cip
24:15 and at this point i'll just pause for a
24:17 little bit does anyone have any
24:18 questions
24:24 okay as i mentioned
24:28 the current phase is implementing the
24:31 mobility master plan
24:33 and there's different parts to it and
24:36 we're working on updating some of the
24:39 city's
24:39 standards and policies at the end of
24:44 2020 the transportation advisory board
24:49 worked on the complete streets policy
24:52 and that will be going to the city
24:54 council pretty soon
24:56 other policies that were in standards
24:58 we're working on are the street
24:59 standards
25:00 pedestrian crossing guidelines and
25:02 traffic calming
25:07 program
25:10 another part of implementing the
25:11 mobility master plan
25:13 is incorporating the mobility master
25:16 plan
25:17 into the transportation improvement
25:19 program
25:21 and how that is done was pretty well
25:24 spelled out in the mobility master plan
25:27 it talked about how the city would
25:29 continue projects that are currently
25:32 underway and in progress and
25:36 at the same time look to pursue
25:39 new priority projects based on the
25:41 priorities established in the mobility
25:44 master plan
25:50 there's a lot of different types of or
25:54 projects that go into the transportation
25:56 improvement program
25:57 and i mentioned that the mobility master
25:59 plan said that projects that
26:01 are currently underway will continue
26:05 the city also has projects that i
26:07 decided to name
26:08 mandated projects they're projects that
26:11 we just need to do
26:12 in order to take care of our
26:14 transportation system
26:16 [Music]
26:18 and we also have projects that are
26:20 annual projects that we do
26:22 on an annual basis and there is a lot of
26:24 overlap
26:25 between the annual projects and the
26:27 mandated projects
26:28 a little bit later i'll go over some
26:30 examples of these different categories
26:33 and then there's also the new priority
26:36 projects
26:38 that we'll look to try and add to the
26:39 transportation improvement program
26:47 this slide's got a list of the
26:51 projects that are currently underway and
26:54 i'll just give you guys
26:55 a brief description of these plan
26:59 projects there's more information in
27:02 the most recent transportation
27:04 improvement program
27:06 the the first one is the intersection
27:10 of 12th avenue and sr 900
27:13 and 17th avenue that's the one where
27:16 we've got the picture on the
27:18 left here and that is the
27:21 third and final project from the costco
27:23 development agreement
27:25 the costco development agreement is
27:28 was how the city widened the east lake
27:31 smamish parkway from 56th
27:33 to issaquah falls city road and built
27:36 the
27:37 southeast 62nd street extension and this
27:40 project
27:41 the 12th and sr 900 project will add a
27:44 second left turn lane
27:46 next to the holiday inn and a right turn
27:50 lane
27:51 and add more capacity to that
27:55 intersection
27:56 the newport way sr 900 to 54th
28:00 project is a project that will add
28:02 pedestrian facilities
28:04 between sr 900 and 54th as well as
28:07 bicycle facilities
28:09 and make intersection improvements at
28:11 intersections along the corridor
28:14 newport way maple to sunset is a
28:17 very similar project to the other
28:19 newport way project
28:20 where it's adding bike and pedestrian
28:23 facilities
28:24 to a section of newport way it also will
28:27 be adding a second
28:30 southbound lane between maple street
28:34 and 900 feet south of holly street and
28:37 three roundabouts
28:38 at juniper dogwood
28:41 and hawley the northwest
28:45 sammamish road non-motorized
28:50 i see there's a question
28:53 i think this would be good time to take
28:57 okay this this is jerry when you say a
29:00 project is underway
29:01 is it underway as design or is it going
29:03 to be underway as construction so what
29:06 do you mean by
29:07 a project being underway that's a great
29:10 question
29:11 in terms of all these examples that are
29:13 underway
29:14 they're all currently in design
29:18 and but it could if we had a project
29:21 that had a multi-year construction
29:23 that was underway that one would also
29:25 continue
29:27 but all these projects are currently in
29:30 design
29:35 okay thanks but thanks for the question
29:39 then northwest the mamish road
29:41 non-motorized
29:42 improvements that's a project that will
29:44 add
29:45 non non-motorized facility between
29:49 the neighborhood south of lake sammamish
29:52 sometimes referred to as south cove
29:56 to the lake samamish state park
30:01 and then the streetscape project is one
30:03 where the city's been
30:05 over the last probably about four years
30:08 been working
30:09 on making some improvements to front
30:12 street
30:13 and eventually to alder
30:16 to make for a more inviting pedestrian
30:18 gathering area
30:20 and then the final one is the issaquah
30:24 highland signal
30:25 pole painting project that will be over
30:28 the next several years repainting the
30:30 signal poles in the highlands
30:37 the projects that i classified as annual
30:39 projects the ones that we
30:41 work on every year there's the ada
30:44 improvements
30:45 project where the city will make
30:48 upgrades to the
30:50 within the public right-of-way to
30:53 improve
30:54 disability access things like building
30:58 curb ramps that meet the requirements
31:00 for ada
31:01 or pedestrian push buttons that are
31:05 audible
31:06 and count down pedestrian
31:10 signal heads that will give the
31:12 countdown to know how
31:14 long you have to cross the intersection
31:17 the pavement management program that
31:20 does a number of measures to take care
31:22 of pavement
31:23 in the city of esqua whether it's
31:26 repaving by doing an overlay
31:28 which is where they take a grinder and
31:30 grind out some asphalt
31:32 and put new asphalt down or sealing up
31:34 the cracks
31:37 and a new annual project that we just
31:39 got started
31:40 is the concrete maintenance program that
31:42 will
31:43 take care of
31:47 tripping hazards and
31:53 concrete that's in poor condition and i
31:56 see we have another
31:58 question
32:00 yes i have a question from erica um how
32:03 have the
32:04 covid related holds on washtop projects
32:07 affected
32:07 these projects if at all
32:11 and it might have been referring to the
32:13 previous ongoing projects
32:15 on the previous page okay yeah let me
32:19 go back to that one
32:22 the the covid stuff
32:26 luckily has not impacted any of the
32:28 projects
32:29 underway the one of our projects the
32:33 12th and sr 900
32:35 had some funding that was delayed not
32:37 because of covid but after
32:40 the i-976 was passed
32:43 that was the car tab initiative the
32:46 state held on to
32:48 some money that the city had for about
32:51 half of a year before it was finally
32:53 released and that delayed the project
32:55 but
32:57 i'm going to knock on wood and nothing
32:58 has delayed any of the
33:01 nothing covet related has delayed any of
33:03 our projects
33:04 and i think there's another question
33:06 from david
33:34 am i working yep yep okay must have been
33:37 the headphones
33:38 so i'm just curious about the budgeting
33:40 process
33:41 on how that's uh formulated
33:44 on the split screen it had um what
33:47 you're describing your presentation and
33:49 then under it it had the budget under it
33:51 is it these projects have been approved
33:55 and the budgets are built after or do we
33:58 have a set budget for the tip
34:00 and then you have to work kind of your
34:02 way within that
34:06 that's a good question let me answer it
34:08 a little bit later
34:10 when i get to the funding part because
34:12 and that'll help
34:13 guide what i talk about when i get to
34:14 the funding i'll go into a few more
34:16 details than
34:17 i probably otherwise would have okay
34:20 thanks
34:23 okay and then the final annual project
34:27 is the strategic small capital
34:30 project and that's a a new project that
34:33 we have
34:34 that came out of the city strategic plan
34:37 and the the idea of this project is to
34:40 work on small improvements that make a
34:42 big difference to the mobility system
34:46 and that was one of the
34:49 objectives of the city's strategic plan
34:55 there's also a number of mandated
34:59 responsibilities that the city has
35:02 and most of the annual projects
35:05 also fall into this category but then
35:08 i've
35:08 got a few others that aren't annual
35:12 projects
35:12 that i want to talk about and the first
35:14 one is
35:16 the retaining wall behind fred meyer on
35:19 black nugget road
35:21 and that is one where in a few years the
35:23 city will need to replace it
35:25 and that's a project that we'll include
35:28 into the the tip
35:31 we've got a number of slow-moving
35:33 landslide slides that we've been
35:36 monitoring and
35:39 those could eventually become projects
35:42 in the transportation improvement
35:44 program there is a landslide on newport
35:47 way
35:49 near the king county trailhead that
35:52 it'll be built during 20 or taken care
35:55 of during 2021
35:56 so won't be part of this tip process but
35:58 that's an example
36:00 of a transportation improvement project
36:02 that we just have to do because
36:04 of a landslide and with this cause
36:06 geography and
36:08 rainfall that those come up and then
36:12 i put the gilman bridge on here we
36:13 currently do not have a project
36:16 but it's one of the it's a pretty old
36:19 bridge it was built in 1940
36:22 and we have our bridges inspected
36:26 on a frequent basis but this year we're
36:30 going to
36:30 go ahead and do an update to the
36:34 load rating calculations to determine if
36:37 that bridge needs
36:39 to be replaced at some time in the
36:41 future or
36:42 if we need to make some modifications
36:44 for seismic
36:46 or scour with the creek down below with
36:49 the fish
36:50 and so we're going to be looking at that
36:54 bridge and a project might come up with
36:57 that bridge
37:02 is the yeoman bridge is that on gilman
37:05 boulevard over this concrete
37:06 oh yes yeah i should explain that one
37:08 better thanks tom it is
37:11 the bridge over issaquah creek on gilman
37:19 hey john just a little history that's
37:21 the old highway 10 bridge
37:23 all right excellent
37:29 all right so we i david asked
37:33 a good question about project funding
37:36 and
37:37 we have a variety of funding for our our
37:40 projects
37:42 there's local funding that comes from
37:44 the city of issaquah
37:46 and then there's external project
37:48 funding that we have for our projects
37:51 and i showed this slide here
37:55 because one of our funding partners the
37:57 transportation improvement board
38:00 they have a a couple funding programs
38:04 that where we try and
38:05 get funding from and
38:08 they're very a very blunt agency and
38:10 telling people
38:17 that they want projects that meet their
38:19 grant their criteria
38:21 for projects and the same thing for
38:23 other granting
38:24 agencies so a project that might be a
38:28 priority for the city of isla and i
38:30 think the best example
38:32 is the southeast 43rd signal that one is
38:35 was a huge priority for the providence
38:39 point neighborhood
38:41 however it was a project that was a low
38:44 priority for the
38:46 different agencies who award grant funds
38:48 and so that's the project that the city
38:50 funded itself
38:51 now there is a few times when it
38:53 overlaps like
38:55 the two newport way projects i think
38:57 would fall in the category
38:59 of a project that would look good for
39:01 the granting agencies
39:03 as well as for
39:06 the residents of this supply and that's
39:09 not to say that projects that
39:11 aren't neighborhood projects that are
39:13 grant projects those do have
39:15 tremendous value to the community but
39:17 they usually are more
39:18 economic development driven and things
39:21 like that or they're on a busy corridor
39:24 with lots of traffic and then so
39:28 what we do for we have to identify a
39:31 funding source for these different
39:32 projects
39:33 and we have a number of different
39:35 funding sources
39:36 like i mentioned there's the grants
39:39 which
39:41 the transportation improvement board has
39:43 grants the washington state
39:45 department of transportation has some
39:47 grants
39:49 we compete for grants through the puget
39:51 sound regional council
39:53 and i won't go into all the details but
39:56 there's a number of buckets to
39:57 compete for and then in terms of city
40:00 funding
40:01 we have funding through the real estate
40:03 exercise tax when there's a real estate
40:05 transaction that takes place
40:08 when there's a new development the
40:10 development has to pay
40:12 traffic impact fees which can go towards
40:14 funding projects
40:16 there's they also pay pedestrian and
40:20 bicycle mitigation
40:21 fees that go towards pedestrian and
40:23 bicycle
40:24 projects and then we also have
40:28 the general fund as a potential for
40:30 funding projects
40:32 as well as the ability to
40:35 issue bonds and take on debt to build
40:38 projects
40:39 and an example of that would be the
40:40 southeast 43rd signal project
40:43 the city council issued bonds for and
40:46 then
40:47 the other way where the city can
40:48 generate revenue for projects
40:50 is to ask the voters to increase taxes
40:53 whether it's the sales tax
40:55 or the property tax
40:58 but as part of this process
41:02 what we're going to do is identify the
41:04 projects
41:05 and look at our funding sources and then
41:07 it becomes a balancing act
41:09 and a priority act of trying to
41:12 put together the six-year tip
41:17 and david did that answer your question
41:20 well enough or do you want me to clarify
41:22 and add more detail
41:23 or no i think that's uh makes sense i
41:27 just wanted to see if it was something
41:28 like
41:28 um you know if we have a pre-approved
41:31 set amount of money and then we're
41:32 trying to work
41:33 within that or we have some overage and
41:36 then we have to go and
41:37 figure out like how to go raise the rest
41:39 of the money
41:40 to get these things done well there
41:44 each of the funding sources that i had
41:46 mentioned
41:47 and i'm just going to talk about the
41:48 city of this across funding sources and
41:50 ignore
41:52 the grants that there is a limited
41:55 amount
41:55 so as part of the cip
41:58 process the finance department
42:02 is looking at how much money we have in
42:04 our different funds like the traffic
42:06 impact or fees
42:09 the pedestrian mitigation another one i
42:11 forgot to mention
42:12 was the traffic safety fund which is
42:16 funded based on the speed camera on
42:18 second near the high school in middle
42:19 school
42:20 but so they they look at how much
42:22 funding we have
42:24 and without having gotten into the
42:27 details
42:28 chances are we will want to do much more
42:30 than we have funds for
42:33 yeah makes sense yeah and it was just
42:35 interesting to see some
42:37 you know looking at the future projects
42:39 some are a million dollars
42:40 and some are 80 million dollars and so
42:43 you know you have a very vast range of
42:46 you know potential funding needs so just
42:48 curious on how that works
42:49 thank you
42:54 i wanted to sum up what i've been
42:57 talking about
42:58 the transportation improvement program
43:01 he said it's a short-range planning
43:04 document
43:05 it needs to be consistent with the
43:06 comprehensive plan
43:10 it consists of a variety of different
43:13 projects
43:14 and as we fill out the transportation
43:17 improvement program
43:18 the first things that we will do is
43:21 program
43:22 in the mandated responsibilities the
43:24 annual projects the
43:26 ongoing projects match the revenue with
43:29 the expenses
43:30 and then start looking at what are the
43:35 new priority projects that we can
43:39 add to the tip and then
43:43 the final thing is the city council gets
43:45 to make the final decision
43:47 so once we put this once the tip is put
43:51 together
43:52 it'll go off be reviewed by the
43:55 internally by the finance department and
43:57 the exec department
43:59 you can present it to council and
44:02 they'll deliberate it and come up with
44:04 the final version
44:05 of what it looks like and i saw there's
44:06 another question
44:13 i could go ahead hi john so a question
44:16 on the fugitives total kind of building
44:18 on what david said
44:19 is there a way to see what the time
44:22 frame is for that
44:23 and it is is everything that
44:26 has any capital spending related
44:29 transportation
44:30 in the cip the six years gip even if it
44:33 has
44:34 majority of that spending in future
44:36 years or is there
44:37 is there some sort of a cut off for that
44:41 in the past when we put the city has put
44:44 together the
44:45 tip we've included both the future years
44:49 and the projects in the next six years
44:52 and i was looking through the guidance
44:54 for this current update and it looks
44:56 like we're just going to be
44:58 programming the projects in the next six
45:02 years
45:03 and then somewhere else we'll just have
45:04 a list of future year projects and
45:07 their cost estimates
45:16 just add on to john's response micah um
45:19 part of this process that we'll be going
45:20 through this year is to be
45:22 applying priorities or at least rankings
45:25 to the projects
45:26 in the tip that'll help us determine
45:28 what will be coming up
45:29 next but beyond the six years there
45:31 isn't necessarily a timeline
45:40 okay are there more questions
45:48 okay
45:53 the next steps are at the
45:58 tab meeting that i believe is now
45:59 scheduled for february 4th
46:01 we'll talk about project prioritization
46:04 and then at the regular meeting on the
46:08 18th
46:09 talk about recommendations for the
46:13 update to the transportation improvement
46:15 program
46:16 and then from the tabs perspective
46:19 that's the
46:20 point when the tip process will go on
46:23 pause
46:24 things will go to like i had mentioned
46:26 the finance department
46:28 we'll check make sure we have the
46:30 revenue for it and
46:31 then the administration and the mayor's
46:34 office and then
46:35 finally to council i believe it's going
46:37 to be presented to council
46:40 in april and then i think on april 27
46:43 the council is going to
46:45 deliberate it hold the public hearing
46:50 i believe may 3rd and i could be a
46:52 little bit off on that one
46:54 and the plan is to have council adopt
46:57 the
46:57 cip and the tip at their meeting on may
47:01 17th
47:02 and then for the tab we're going to come
47:06 back to you
47:07 in this summer and start talking about
47:13 the scope of projects and see if we want
47:15 to make any recommendations to
47:17 update what's involved in a project
47:21 for and then these discussions will then
47:23 be used
47:24 for the tip update process that'll take
47:27 place a year from now
47:29 and that process is one that was part of
47:32 the mobility master plan
47:37 and any other comments or questions
47:44 cynthia i have a general question in our
47:47 packet we received
47:48 a document called the transportation
47:50 improvement plan
47:52 and i guess i'm just
47:55 a little confused as to this like
47:59 the status of that versus i'm
48:03 continuing to be a little confused about
48:04 the timing and the sequencing
48:06 so um was this the
48:09 yeah so i don't know what that
48:11 spreadsheet
48:12 is and what how it compares to what
48:16 we're going to be
48:17 doing in the next two meetings so
48:21 i believe that was the last year's
48:25 tip and then
48:29 we'll work on updating it and so the
48:33 the projects that like i mentioned they
48:35 currently updated
48:38 i guess to talk about what specifically
48:40 the tab will be doing
48:41 is after we programmed in the
48:45 ongoing projects the mandated projects
48:49 the annual projects
48:51 then we're going to look at what
48:52 capacity do we have for new priority
48:55 projects
48:56 and those are the discussions that we'll
48:58 be coming back to the tab with and
49:00 looking at it from so the mmp the
49:04 mobility master plan
49:06 had the criteria that we use to evaluate
49:10 projects and we'll talk about are there
49:11 other things to consider
49:13 and talk about how to apply that and
49:17 put the final touches on the tip
49:22 did that answer your question i think so
49:25 so we're going to be adopting one that's
49:26 going to be shifted
49:27 everything's going to be shifted left
49:29 one year so the first column will be
49:30 2022 through 2027
49:33 okay and so any
49:37 yeah okay
49:40 and then the other i guess my other
49:41 general question about that is
49:43 i found it really helpful for you to
49:45 describe the
49:46 mandated the projects underway
49:50 the annual projects and so forth and
49:51 then but it would be helpful to know
49:55 which ones of these fall in each bucket
49:59 um or maybe not go through and do it
50:01 with the old one but
50:02 the the next yeah when we see the first
50:06 draft or i'm not sure actually how this
50:08 process is going to unfold but
50:10 it would be good to understand which
50:13 ones are essentially
50:14 kind of a done deal uh for those other
50:17 reasons that you mentioned
50:19 so i understand what what where we can
50:22 be of
50:23 most help where can we be most helpful
50:26 as an advisory board what what is
50:27 discretionary i guess that's i want to
50:29 hopefully that that will be really
50:31 crystal clear so that we don't spend
50:33 cycles
50:35 you know trying to evaluate something
50:36 that we learned
50:38 come to realize that that was a mandated
50:40 or underway project you know some kind
50:41 of agreement development agreement and
50:43 so forth
50:44 okay will do good idea
50:52 okay
51:04 so do we have more on this topic um
51:07 do you want to talk to us stephen about
51:11 how this is gonna go forward
51:14 i'm still trying to wrap my head around
51:16 what we're gonna do exactly in the next
51:18 couple meetings
51:19 yeah so i'll do that and then kind of
51:21 the next agenda
51:22 i just want to give everybody the
51:24 opportunity to ask any
51:25 general questions or have any comments
51:27 about what they
51:29 think or see in the tip itself as it
51:32 kind of stands now
51:34 um just to help everybody just to make
51:36 sure everybody understands before we
51:37 start making changes
51:39 what it looks like now and why how it
51:41 was put together
51:48 i'm not seeing any questions or comments
51:51 um so i think we can move on to that if
51:55 that is what you want to do
52:04 i know for me as soon as we walk through
52:07 the next agenda item
52:09 and then if you could tell us a little
52:11 bit about
52:12 how to prepare i know you'll be sending
52:14 out meeting but it seems like
52:16 very soon the rubber is going to kind of
52:18 meet the road where we're going to have
52:19 to take those priorities
52:21 and compare them to actual projects and
52:23 that is
52:25 i think a huge value to council to have
52:28 this committee go through that in a
52:31 really um
52:32 rigorous way but it's also going to be a
52:34 heavy lift for the individuals on the
52:36 board and i'm hoping that
52:37 we can be real clear about where to
52:39 focus our efforts and have a robust
52:40 discussion
52:42 um so leave it at that
52:48 okay so i can move on to kind of the
52:50 next parts and then kind of walk through
52:52 how we'll have those discussions at the
52:54 next meeting if that's helpful
52:57 okay so i'm going to share my screen
53:04 thank you john that was really helpful
53:07 thank you
53:11 so for some of you this is going to be a
53:13 little more of
53:15 a reminder but for most of you this
53:19 might be
53:19 a little more new information
53:24 i'm going to explain the background on
53:25 the mobility master plan and the guiding
53:27 principles
53:28 to help explain the project priorities
53:31 and how they were put together
53:33 the intent really is to look at every
53:35 aspect of the transportation system
53:37 through with these principles in mind
53:40 one of the initial uses uh with with the
53:44 principles is
53:45 to build them into the broad project
53:47 evaluation process for the tip that kind
53:49 of the process that we're kind of going
53:50 through right now
53:52 so on the other attachment setting the
53:54 priorities
53:55 the project team and the board assembled
53:58 criteria to evaluate the projects
54:01 and then for this meeting i'll kind of
54:02 cover the points uh allocated for
54:05 those priorities and and to make sure
54:07 everybody understands
54:08 how how we want to use these priorities
54:12 before we start kind of looking at the
54:14 full evaluation for the tip
54:22 now for the project prioritization um
54:25 the first section
54:27 really is coming from the uh just to
54:30 help explain
54:31 the sections and the guiding principles
54:32 are coming directly from the guiding
54:34 principles
54:35 um these six or at least five
54:38 principles are being shown
54:42 in the priorities project priority
54:50 categories
54:52 for the first section improved mobility
54:54 within is 22 points are allocated to
54:56 this
54:57 and this is really looking at safety as
54:59 well as access to the options for
55:01 diverse community members but it also
55:04 looks at
55:04 the likelihood of implementation of
55:06 projects sooner rather than later
55:08 and prioritizing those projects and now
55:10 getting points for the
55:12 next section there's an allocation of 16
55:16 points and and for this
55:17 preparing for growth it's looking at
55:20 applying multimodal capacity
55:22 in projects and addressing the gaps in
55:24 the system as well as considering
55:26 negative impacts on neighborhoods to
55:28 make sure that we're minimizing
55:30 any type of negative impacts on our
55:31 neighborhoods through our projects
55:33 and increasing motorized capacity more
55:35 towards the arterial roadways
55:40 the next section after that is really
55:41 looking at uh better connecting as well
55:43 with the region
55:44 and and so transit is a big component of
55:47 how the points are being allocated
55:49 and it considers existing city
55:51 investments
55:54 into those type of projects and looks at
55:56 connections to our growth centers
55:58 one of the major criteria and
56:02 evaluations for grants is really
56:04 how much we are prioritizing the our
56:06 growth centers and so we want to make
56:07 sure
56:08 in the design and our own evaluations of
56:12 projects that we're taking that into
56:13 consideration
56:15 for the next section it's more about the
56:17 environmental sustainability of our
56:19 projects and
56:19 and we want to reward projects that are
56:23 providing uh sustainable choices that
56:25 are protecting or at least
56:27 minimizing the impacts on the
56:29 environment
56:30 particularly the sensitive areas in our
56:33 community and then consider
56:34 this also considers overlap with the
56:36 parks plan that also looks at
56:38 environmental improvements throughout
56:40 the city
56:42 and then lastly it's the investment
56:45 looking at wise investment it considers
56:47 overlap with other city plans
56:49 making sure that we're being efficient
56:50 with where we are
56:53 prioritizing investments and it also
56:55 evaluates the potential to use local
56:57 funding
56:58 so that we can implement projects sooner
57:01 to to
57:02 really push on more short-term projects
57:05 more than
57:06 dedicating the majority of our time to
57:07 long-term projects that take 20
57:09 30 years to implement but it also
57:12 considers maintenance
57:13 as a major component of how we want to
57:16 design
57:17 and prioritize our projects
57:20 in total there's 74 points for those
57:23 that
57:24 may have noticed we don't have an
57:25 anticipate transfer
57:27 transformation section uh built into the
57:30 criterion the reason for that is
57:31 when the project team was initially
57:33 putting this together
57:35 we found that there was a lot of overlap
57:38 with all the other
57:39 sections and so we didn't want to give
57:41 double points for a lot of the same
57:43 criteria and so instead we
57:45 reallocated some of those points towards
57:47 other sections and so
57:49 safety and access to the system actually
57:51 was given more
57:52 points when we finalized this criteria
57:55 last year
57:57 and now i must be to
58:01 process to help kind of answer some of
58:04 your questions can everybody see
58:06 my slides
58:09 okay this is kind of how our tip
58:14 process looks right now what we
58:16 typically do
58:18 is we take the previous tip which
58:20 contains all the projects that john kind
58:22 of spoke to
58:25 identified as kind of the committed
58:27 projects near-term projects
58:29 and future projects that don't
58:30 necessarily have a timeline
58:32 and then we applied funding availability
58:35 or looked at funding availability
58:37 staff capacity and then
58:40 kind of applied project scheduling along
58:42 with city council feedback
58:44 for the next six years and that is what
58:47 really committed to
58:49 how we develop our our tap or cap
58:53 every year and one thing to note is
58:57 the cap and the tap they're planning
59:00 documents
59:00 um even though we're going through this
59:02 formal process to
59:04 develop and really plan out how we are
59:07 wanting to implement our projects for
59:10 transportation system
59:12 this when these are approved this
59:15 doesn't decide on the final dollars this
59:17 helps inform
59:19 the city budget process that the city
59:21 council does at the end of every year
59:24 so just just so it's clear it's the
59:26 whole city budget process where the
59:27 money actually gets allocated
59:29 that's done through a separate process
59:31 this is just helping city council with
59:33 the planning aspect of it all
59:38 the process that we're going to be going
59:40 through now
59:41 is pulling previous tip or at least
59:44 taking the project
59:46 list and the priorities from the
59:48 mobility master plan
59:49 and applying those two things together
59:52 and so that
59:53 instead of starting with just the
59:55 previous list that we had from the
59:57 previous last year and changing
59:59 dates and funding funding allocation for
1:00:03 we're applying a pri we're looking at
1:00:05 more of a prioritized list and then
1:00:07 looking at
1:00:08 funding availability and staffing
1:00:10 capacity as well as
1:00:12 city council feedback and scheduling
1:00:15 the question we have for all of you
1:00:17 right now
1:00:18 is is there something else that we
1:00:21 should
1:00:21 be considering in this development of
1:00:24 the tip
1:00:26 and i bring up this question now because
1:00:28 there's major
1:00:31 there's major topics that were discussed
1:00:33 in the development of
1:00:34 the mobility master plan that aren't
1:00:37 necessarily highlighted
1:00:38 in this final this prioritized this as a
1:00:43 right now we have individual projects
1:00:46 identified for sidewalk apps that are
1:00:48 more of a bucket
1:00:49 of all of the gaps in the sidewalk or
1:00:53 the pedestrian system
1:00:54 and the bicycle system that are
1:00:57 basically one bucket of of filling
1:01:01 a lot of the gaps in this system these
1:01:03 were identified as major
1:01:05 issues in our transportation system by
1:01:07 the transportation advisory board
1:01:09 over the last year when we're looking at
1:01:11 the system-wide
1:01:14 system-wide design and how we want to
1:01:17 build out our future multi-modal system
1:01:20 another major item that's not really
1:01:24 or it's not really prioritized
1:01:28 is that we find medium-sized projects
1:01:31 that are actually considered high
1:01:33 priority in the
1:01:34 in the city are more kind of in
1:01:37 the middle or to the bottom of the list
1:01:39 and so
1:01:41 how do we address these high priority
1:01:43 projects that are
1:01:45 somewhat underway or at least are
1:01:48 wanting to be done sooner rather than
1:01:49 later
1:01:50 but don't necessarily get prioritized in
1:01:53 on you know by the mobility master plan
1:01:56 and lastly one of the big components of
1:01:59 the millennium master plan that was
1:02:01 discussed by the board
1:02:02 was applying an equity lens now right
1:02:06 through the priorities we you know in
1:02:09 i think the second category
1:02:12 equity is considered in terms of access
1:02:14 to the transportation system
1:02:16 but that's about it and and um
1:02:20 through the training that staff has gone
1:02:22 through we know that we can apply
1:02:25 a separate lens to this to to make sure
1:02:27 that we are considering the access to
1:02:29 the system
1:02:30 um more comprehensively and more
1:02:32 holistically
1:02:34 as we are implementing these projects
1:02:36 and so the question that we have
1:02:38 for the board is as you're looking at
1:02:40 this list
1:02:41 the prioritized list from the mobile
1:02:43 master plan
1:02:44 are the things that we talked about or
1:02:47 things that you that you're kind of
1:02:48 important to you
1:02:50 are they being highlighted near the top
1:02:52 of the list
1:02:55 and i'll check now if there are any
1:02:57 questions before i
1:02:59 finish up hi steven i have a question
1:03:03 um could you share what some of the
1:03:07 priority medium-sized projects
1:03:09 are that maybe might not currently be
1:03:11 considered
1:03:13 we we will at our next meeting actually
1:03:17 one example that i can give is
1:03:20 up in highlands is the central park
1:03:24 intersection improvements that's a
1:03:27 project that
1:03:28 is a priority for the city because we
1:03:30 want to make sure that we're
1:03:32 maximizing kind of the improvements that
1:03:33 were made to the park up in highlands
1:03:36 but in terms of meeting a lot of the
1:03:38 criteria that are
1:03:39 defined by the guiding principles it
1:03:41 doesn't necessarily
1:03:42 rank very high on our list and so those
1:03:45 those type of projects
1:03:47 are the ones that we we need to try to
1:03:49 consider because these are the things
1:03:50 the board did discuss but
1:03:53 it's not necessarily rising to the top
1:03:56 of the list as i think the board
1:03:57 might have been hoping for
1:04:02 and so the question is when we put
1:04:04 together the
1:04:05 tip is there another lens or
1:04:08 another set of criteria that we need to
1:04:10 be applying
1:04:12 because really what the criteria coming
1:04:15 from the bullying master plan tells us
1:04:16 is how well projects meet the guiding
1:04:20 principles
1:04:22 how well does it address a lot of these
1:04:24 goals that we kind of see from the
1:04:26 guiding principles
1:04:30 are there any other questions maybe even
1:04:32 comments
1:04:34 even can you hear me yes
1:04:37 oh you can't that's great um it took me
1:04:40 half a meeting but
1:04:41 um where does i i know
1:04:45 the mmp is like future forecasting but
1:04:47 like preservation and maintenance
1:04:49 maybe like longevity is that where do
1:04:52 you see that
1:04:52 kind of lens rolling into things
1:04:56 so i'll stop showing my screen really
1:04:59 quick
1:05:00 um the preservation of what the our
1:05:03 infrastructure and maintenance is
1:05:05 captured in i think the last
1:05:08 category of the criteria i think there's
1:05:11 an allocation of like four points
1:05:14 in the criteria right now uh otherwise
1:05:18 the preservation of
1:05:22 preservation and maintenance is
1:05:24 something that we're
1:05:25 trying to build into project design now
1:05:28 and and kind of our own city processes
1:05:31 beyond just the build out of the tip
1:05:34 itself
1:05:36 something that was identified as a big
1:05:38 priority in the mobility master plan
1:05:40 development
1:05:48 oh go ahead sorry i so in the project
1:05:51 priorities one point
1:05:52 section 1.3 there's points for within
1:05:55 the next six years
1:05:57 but it's it's like an all or nothing
1:05:59 thing where
1:06:00 i was expecting to see maybe more points
1:06:04 some some extra points for within the
1:06:06 next three years or two years
1:06:08 whatever sort of that mid-range thing is
1:06:10 and i'm wondering whether
1:06:11 if we looked at if we were to have extra
1:06:14 points there would that address some of
1:06:16 these medium
1:06:17 or is medium really a not just a time
1:06:19 thing but more a overall project size
1:06:24 medium was more of project size so it's
1:06:27 the 10 to 30 million project you know
1:06:30 dollar projects that you saw on the list
1:06:32 it's more of the
1:06:34 couple million that you saw on the list
1:06:36 something that's
1:06:37 not easily uh implemented through just
1:06:40 local our own local funding
1:06:42 um but something that's not necessarily
1:06:45 a huge project that we see taking 20
1:06:48 years to build out
1:06:53 stephen i have a question um
1:06:56 so this might kind of be a dumb question
1:06:59 because i worked on the mmp
1:07:01 um but uh i'm
1:07:04 what i'm curious about i think i know
1:07:07 the answer but i still think it's worth
1:07:08 asking and being
1:07:10 crystal clear these project
1:07:13 project prioritization criteria
1:07:17 um and the points i remember working on
1:07:19 this and i remember how much
1:07:20 you know we had a good rationale we had
1:07:22 really good discussions about it
1:07:24 my question is is this embedded in the
1:07:28 mmp and is it already adopted and
1:07:31 therefore
1:07:32 is it already established and not
1:07:36 subject to revision or suggested
1:07:39 revision because
1:07:41 i think some of what you're asking by
1:07:44 having that
1:07:45 on that slide where you had you had four
1:07:47 things and taking out the equity lens
1:07:48 the first three things
1:07:50 would suggest that maybe we if we can't
1:07:53 find it in there
1:07:54 or if it's not weighted high enough in
1:07:56 there then maybe we made a mistake
1:07:58 and i'm curious whether that thing is
1:08:00 already adopted and we have to live with
1:08:02 at least for the time being but we may
1:08:04 layer
1:08:05 through discussion some other priorities
1:08:10 or is that thing malleable and um
1:08:14 so again it's a dumb question because i
1:08:15 worked on the thing um but it
1:08:17 i can't remember if that text is
1:08:19 actually in the adopted plan
1:08:22 yeah i would say i wouldn't think that
1:08:24 we made a mistake it may be something
1:08:26 that's come up to add to it sure okay
1:08:29 but i meant the point point is this for
1:08:31 for now
1:08:32 or six months ago did we could it be
1:08:34 improved or is that even an option
1:08:37 and again that may be a dumb question
1:08:40 but i think it would be useful to know
1:08:43 so we this was not
1:08:47 officially adopted uh with the
1:08:50 translation element update because we're
1:08:53 wanting this to be more of part of the
1:08:55 implementation side so it's a little
1:08:56 more malleable
1:08:58 but at the same time we over the course
1:09:00 of last year we made a lot of changes
1:09:02 to kind of accommodate some of those
1:09:05 issues
1:09:06 that i've i'm kind of bringing up now
1:09:07 but a lot of the issues that we
1:09:08 discussed over the last year as well
1:09:11 and there's not a whole lot you can make
1:09:13 a change to
1:09:14 to to really fix that at least within
1:09:17 this criteria which is why we're
1:09:19 bringing up the question
1:09:20 should we be adding another layer for
1:09:22 the tip just the tip itself
1:09:25 because what this criteria is really
1:09:27 telling us is
1:09:28 how well each of the projects are
1:09:31 meeting the guiding principles
1:09:33 or are being
1:09:37 you know implementing what we're wanting
1:09:39 out of our transportation system
1:09:40 it's not necessarily trying to meet one
1:09:43 of those
1:09:44 considerations that was kind of listed
1:09:46 on the other side so
1:09:48 that's kind of why we're asking this
1:09:50 question separate from the development
1:09:52 of the criteria
1:09:53 yes we can make changes to it but we
1:09:55 don't think it's going to make a huge
1:09:57 difference
1:09:57 in terms of trying to bring up a lot of
1:10:00 those
1:10:01 issues that in terms of how do we
1:10:04 bring up the gaps in the walking or
1:10:08 biking system as
1:10:09 high priority projects maybe the
1:10:11 recommendation there isn't necessarily
1:10:13 just bring them to the top list or maybe
1:10:15 the recommendation is
1:10:17 to the city council maybe there's a
1:10:19 discussion on
1:10:20 having a separate program for those
1:10:22 expansion and not having them identified
1:10:24 as projects in the tip that's that's
1:10:28 kind of the discussion that we're trying
1:10:29 to have
1:10:30 is is there another way that we can
1:10:33 prioritize what the board is wanting um
1:10:36 as part of the tip process or separate
1:10:38 from the tip process
1:10:41 i'm sorry i'm still a little confused
1:10:42 because i'm looking at those priorities
1:10:44 and for example
1:10:45 number 1.2 you get six points if it
1:10:48 closes a gap
1:10:53 so i i'm not seeing that as being
1:10:56 outside of that
1:11:00 it's not a decided that it's outside of
1:11:02 it it's that
1:11:03 when you start pulling points or adding
1:11:07 points to some of those system
1:11:08 it takes away from the priority from
1:11:10 other things that the board identified
1:11:12 as high priorities like safety
1:11:14 was one of those items that was
1:11:15 identified as high priority which is why
1:11:18 it gets the highest allocation of points
1:11:20 and when you start putting more
1:11:22 towards the other sections it pulls away
1:11:25 from that
1:11:26 and if you just try to add to the total
1:11:28 points for the
1:11:29 the whole price prior to your criteria
1:11:32 it kind of takes away from the
1:11:36 objective nature of the criteria itself
1:11:38 so you want to
1:11:39 try to keep to it as much as possible
1:11:43 that way we're keeping to the priorities
1:11:45 that the board has discussed
1:11:49 does that make sense
1:11:54 sort of but i'm being really linear in
1:11:56 the way i'm thinking about it
1:11:57 if it doesn't pop that means we had a
1:12:00 correct you know that it
1:12:02 yeah i'm curious yeah but i think
1:12:05 cynthia also the intent behind that
1:12:07 and the way we did the variation of the
1:12:10 points was
1:12:11 and and i think i'm i learned better by
1:12:14 doing and so i think maybe next
1:12:17 at the next meeting when we actually
1:12:19 have a list of projects and then we go
1:12:21 through and
1:12:22 you know filter them through we'll get a
1:12:24 sense of how they weigh out
1:12:26 but i think the i mean you know the idea
1:12:29 that the county has ha about the county
1:12:31 but the city has hundreds and millions
1:12:34 of dollars worth of transportation
1:12:35 priorities
1:12:36 i mean i could name you know three
1:12:38 million in my neighborhood alone
1:12:40 of transportation priorities and as
1:12:42 we're sort of
1:12:43 running them through this system it it
1:12:46 sort of
1:12:46 helps balance hopefully all
1:12:50 you know and sort of based on these
1:12:52 values based on these priorities and the
1:12:54 numbers we assign
1:12:55 it helps sort of define okay this is
1:12:58 what rises to the top
1:13:00 and this is sort of you know how how we
1:13:03 have to make adjustments
1:13:05 if we are saying this is our stated
1:13:07 priority and we gave it the most weight
1:13:09 then that's how that's what's going to
1:13:11 rise to the top
1:13:12 and i'm assuming there's this
1:13:14 opportunity at the end when you lay out
1:13:17 all your cards on the table and you can
1:13:19 decide like is this really the outcome
1:13:22 we wanted based on the values and the
1:13:24 guiding principles we have
1:13:26 or did something happen in our math um
1:13:29 so hopefully there's that opportunity to
1:13:30 check
1:13:31 back and make sure that the outcome the
1:13:33 output
1:13:35 looks like you know what our function
1:13:38 was supposed to look like but just
1:13:39 in case you know but i the idea really
1:13:42 was that
1:13:44 those numbers were supposed to reflect
1:13:46 the values and ultimately what comes out
1:13:48 end is supposed to be what
1:13:52 we would have prioritized but i totally
1:13:54 get yeah like i'm like okay if we
1:13:56 run it through this and it doesn't look
1:13:59 the way we wanted it
1:14:00 i mean the way we had anticipated is
1:14:02 there a maybe a check back loop or
1:14:04 something
1:14:07 yeah and that was kind of the intention
1:14:09 of of this meeting is to help
1:14:11 i mean we have a lot of new members i
1:14:12 want to make sure everybody understands
1:14:14 what this is and how it was put together
1:14:16 before we have that discussion of okay
1:14:18 what needs to change
1:14:20 and i mean i've worked with several
1:14:22 different tips and
1:14:24 there's always this question of when you
1:14:26 get to this
1:14:27 list that you now are scheduling for six
1:14:29 years and now
1:14:30 is this really the priorities is this
1:14:32 really meeting the priorities for the
1:14:34 and if it's not where does the change
1:14:37 need to happen
1:14:38 and it typically isn't in this quite you
1:14:40 know initial
1:14:42 criteria it's built into the system of
1:14:44 the tip itself
1:14:45 that we're really need to look into and
1:14:47 so that's
1:14:48 that's kind of where we're hoping it
1:14:49 takes this discussion at our next
1:14:51 meeting
1:14:52 but at least that for this meeting i
1:14:54 want to make sure everybody
1:14:55 understands what this is first
1:15:03 yeah and so i i would just reiterate as
1:15:05 someone who sort of sat through this
1:15:06 process
1:15:07 essentially what these numbers and
1:15:10 charts and everything
1:15:11 try to get at is we had this set of
1:15:13 stated values
1:15:14 of what we anticipated our
1:15:18 transportation infrastructure should
1:15:20 look like and then
1:15:21 we tried to attach some numbers to it in
1:15:24 hopes that if you ran your projects
1:15:26 through these you know numbers and
1:15:28 charts you get some sort of
1:15:30 objective outcome but ultimately that
1:15:32 objective
1:15:33 outcome should align with our stated
1:15:36 values
1:15:38 so it's going to be a grand experiment
1:15:41 for everybody
1:15:42 to see if
1:15:45 our if this if the system or process we
1:15:49 put in place
1:15:50 actually reaches the outcome that we had
1:15:53 anticipated
1:15:54 and actually reflects the values of of
1:15:57 the board
1:15:58 so um you know fingers crossed
1:16:07 so um i'm thinking that this might be a
1:16:10 good time
1:16:11 in the meeting to just go around
1:16:14 something i want to get us comfortable
1:16:16 with is hearing from everybody
1:16:18 and so um you know sujata and i have
1:16:20 been doing most of the
1:16:21 comments and questions and um if you
1:16:23 guys don't mind and we're doing fairly
1:16:25 well on time
1:16:26 i'd like to just um call on each person
1:16:29 and then you can pass if you want to but
1:16:31 i just kind of want to
1:16:32 make sure we're hearing everyone's
1:16:33 getting an opportunity um
1:16:35 to talk so i'm gonna go in the order on
1:16:38 my screen which
1:16:39 may or may not match yours um david
1:16:42 um do you have any questions or comments
1:16:52 i want to say is me dave there's two
1:16:55 davids on the
1:16:56 i'm sorry there are david wagner david
1:16:59 holtzberg
1:17:00 okay sorry about that i'll go ahead
1:17:04 though
1:17:04 um i i don't have any questions or
1:17:06 comments like i said i
1:17:08 read everything before and uh
1:17:11 you know was just curious on the
1:17:12 prioritization and the budgeting
1:17:14 but i think i'm pretty good right now
1:17:19 okay thanks let's go to the next david
1:17:21 the other david wagner and if i say your
1:17:23 uh incorrectly please please correct me
1:17:25 thank you
1:17:28 you said the name right and uh um
1:17:31 i'm still really uh learning on all of
1:17:35 a lot of information to digest but
1:17:39 uh i feel comfortable with getting there
1:17:41 uh just gonna take me some time
1:17:48 erica how's your uh audio can you uh
1:17:52 tell us what's on your mind yeah can you
1:17:54 hear me
1:17:55 okay um um i don't
1:17:59 so i since i are like the tip is
1:18:02 supposed to be
1:18:03 i mean it lays out projects for the next
1:18:05 couple of years um
1:18:07 i just don't know how like in the weeds
1:18:09 on things i can get but i
1:18:11 know like i know one of the um projects
1:18:14 more towards the bottom of the list is
1:18:16 like the light pole um
1:18:18 uh like repainting a couple of different
1:18:20 like traffic poles and like uh the
1:18:21 highlands
1:18:22 um and i like the bottom paragraph of
1:18:25 that it says
1:18:26 uh it would be like a really big traffic
1:18:29 inconvenience and that's like what
1:18:30 i think is driving up the cost of it as
1:18:32 well um
1:18:34 in this point scoring system is there
1:18:37 kind of like almost negative points for
1:18:39 things like that um
1:18:41 i don't know that was like a thought
1:18:42 that crossed my mind if it's gonna be a
1:18:44 real inconvenience
1:18:45 um for you know something that like
1:18:49 my initial read i think this is wrong my
1:18:50 initial read is oh it's just
1:18:52 aesthetical appearance um but i'm sure
1:18:54 it's like much more than that and it's
1:18:55 actually
1:18:56 for you know if we don't take care of
1:18:57 this it'll cost us more in the long run
1:18:59 but um i don't know if there's any
1:19:02 thought given
1:19:03 to almost like a negative scoring
1:19:08 it's it's not so much a negative scoring
1:19:11 that's built into
1:19:12 how we're evaluating projects it's more
1:19:14 about capacity and scheduling so
1:19:16 for projects that have kind of a
1:19:18 negative impact on
1:19:20 traffic congestion it's we we tried to
1:19:23 strategically schedule that or uh around
1:19:26 where we have enough
1:19:27 staff capacity to be able to support it
1:19:29 but at the same time where
1:19:31 um you know it's the time of year you
1:19:33 know with our seasonality
1:19:34 traffic isn't the same throughout the
1:19:36 year so we try to pick a time where
1:19:38 it's kind of a minimal impact on the
1:19:39 community as well
1:19:41 so so for something that may be low cost
1:19:44 but it's actually pushed out a few years
1:19:46 that's kind of part of the consideration
1:19:47 why it's pushed out a few years is
1:19:49 because we want to make sure we're
1:19:50 picking a time where
1:19:51 we don't have too many projects in the
1:19:53 same area we have
1:19:55 staff capacity to support it and the
1:19:57 community is kind of at a good place
1:19:59 where
1:20:00 it's not as it's not having as much of
1:20:02 an impact
1:20:04 okay that makes a lot of sense can i
1:20:06 follow up um
1:20:09 since so since the pandemic has shifted
1:20:11 traffic patterns and things
1:20:13 um and like the one the one specific
1:20:15 it's actually the one in the picture
1:20:17 um i'm thinking of where that is just
1:20:19 like a two-way
1:20:20 big median in it um there's actually a
1:20:22 crash there recently that was like it
1:20:25 just kind of backed things up
1:20:26 you know if one of those lanes is closed
1:20:29 that has like big impacts for like the
1:20:31 whole
1:20:32 all the streets going off there um is
1:20:35 there anything i don't i also don't know
1:20:37 how show ready or paint brush ready
1:20:38 things like this would be but
1:20:40 you know kind of taking advantage of
1:20:41 like traffic
1:20:43 being a bit calmer now maybe not for
1:20:47 the city but i'm just in general like to
1:20:50 bump things up i know that's not a
1:20:52 continual thing because
1:20:54 so that's going to return once people
1:20:55 stop working from home as much but
1:20:58 um sorry that's not a very clear
1:21:00 question i just rambled there
1:21:03 you know i think i think what you're
1:21:04 getting at is kind of the the impact of
1:21:07 the pandemic on
1:21:08 on the system itself and if that's kind
1:21:09 of opened any opportunities for us is
1:21:12 kind of where your question was going
1:21:16 yeah um i'll i'll start
1:21:19 with an answer and then i'll maybe ask
1:21:22 john to kind of
1:21:24 chime in too because he he knows more
1:21:25 about a lot of the
1:21:27 operation projects going on than i do
1:21:30 when we are looking at um you know
1:21:33 impacts of the pandemic and how it's
1:21:34 changed kind of the travel behavior
1:21:37 it has opened up opportunities but at
1:21:39 the same time
1:21:40 it's it's also the pandemics has put a
1:21:43 on our financial abilities as well
1:21:47 uh which is taken into big consideration
1:21:49 of what we're able and
1:21:50 not able to do it's definitely been able
1:21:52 to help us schedule
1:21:54 projects um where
1:21:57 you know the funding wasn't as impacted
1:21:59 like we have a lot of maintenance
1:22:00 projects that
1:22:01 were able to go on sooner this year than
1:22:04 later and which
1:22:05 allowed us time to expand some of the
1:22:07 other maintenance products and
1:22:08 operations um
1:22:09 helping with some of our other
1:22:10 operations but at the same time
1:22:13 you know we we've had to take into
1:22:15 consideration cuts
1:22:16 of within our budget to to accommodate
1:22:19 some of those changes too
1:22:22 john did you have anything to add to
1:22:23 that yeah the
1:22:25 just a couple things you you hit on most
1:22:28 of it
1:22:28 the one of the challenges
1:22:32 these projects take so long to go
1:22:35 through
1:22:35 design and right-of-way acquisition but
1:22:38 it's hard to just
1:22:39 jump on something to take advantage of
1:22:42 an opportunity when traffic's light
1:22:45 although it would be a great
1:22:47 thing to be able to do that because oh
1:22:50 a couple things one if you have less
1:22:52 traffic
1:22:53 your project will actually cost less
1:22:55 because you're spending less money
1:22:56 on temporary construction or traffic
1:22:59 control
1:23:00 and but then like stephen had mentioned
1:23:03 during something like this the budget
1:23:05 takes a huge hit
1:23:07 i will say that the southeast 43rd
1:23:09 signal
1:23:10 has been able to take advantage by just
1:23:14 luck that it happened to go to
1:23:16 construction right before the pandemic
1:23:18 happened
1:23:19 and it's made things a lot easier having
1:23:22 less traffic out there and
1:23:24 allowed the project i think to move
1:23:26 faster than it would have otherwise
1:23:29 but it's hard to do although in a
1:23:31 perfect world i'd love to
1:23:33 be able to have all of our major traffic
1:23:35 impacts happen at a time like this when
1:23:37 less people were
1:23:38 out and about driving
1:23:49 thanks does that answer your question
1:23:51 erica
1:23:52 yes yeah thank you yeah i wasn't even
1:23:54 thinking about it about the
1:23:56 from the budget being hit that angle as
1:23:59 well like staff reduction
1:24:02 uh janie and then after janie will be
1:24:04 jerry
1:24:06 um no i'm good i'm just you know
1:24:09 absorbing everything
1:24:10 but it was good to see like kind of the
1:24:12 thought process behind
1:24:13 creating the plan thank you
1:24:23 okay this is jerry so
1:24:27 i'm not real familiar with the priority
1:24:30 plan that you developed last year or so
1:24:33 so i think it's going to take me a while
1:24:37 to tie things in so i'll probably have
1:24:39 to sit
1:24:40 back with that but i was thinking even
1:24:43 though you
1:24:44 do develop this priority plan
1:24:47 there'll be some projects that are like
1:24:50 000 versus maybe 2 million versus maybe
1:24:54 10 million so is it um
1:24:58 is it um the city employees who
1:25:02 take our priority list and then they
1:25:05 see what dollars are available and then
1:25:09 kind of develop the tip
1:25:12 that way is is that really
1:25:16 what happens um because um
1:25:19 we can prioritize projects but they're
1:25:21 going to be different
1:25:24 design costs or construction costs
1:25:26 correct
1:25:27 and so to develop that tip you you need
1:25:30 to be thinking about that
1:25:32 too right so that's that's
1:25:37 i i'll go ahead and add a little bit to
1:25:39 answer what you're talking about jerry
1:25:42 one of the things that's on my to-do
1:25:45 between now and our next meeting is to
1:25:48 look at
1:25:49 the different projects that we have to
1:25:52 program in there
1:25:53 like the mandated ones annual ones and
1:25:56 ongoing ones
1:25:57 and even though i don't think i'll have
1:26:01 a perfect crystal ball on how much money
1:26:03 and capacity we have i'd like to try and
1:26:05 get a ballpark
1:26:07 to be able to study okay
1:26:11 this is what we originally had but then
1:26:13 once we look at all the things that we
1:26:15 have to program
1:26:16 in here here's what we have left that
1:26:18 because i think it would be a waste of
1:26:20 everyone on this sports time
1:26:22 if you came up with this much projects
1:26:25 and then
1:26:26 i had to say well thanks for all that
1:26:29 great work
1:26:30 let's pick one i i think that would be
1:26:34 frustrating for you guys and i don't
1:26:35 want to do that to you
1:26:41 okay thanks um i'm gonna go with joseph
1:26:43 next and christy after that and joseph
1:26:45 will you tell us if you prefer joe or
1:26:47 joseph
1:26:49 um yeah i prefer joseph um
1:26:52 but i just had one really small question
1:26:56 i saw that the on the transportation
1:26:59 improvement plan
1:27:00 the biggest project was the i-90
1:27:02 crossing between 10th and 12th
1:27:04 avenue northwest but the starting years
1:27:09 and a lot of the project isn't until
1:27:13 in future years past um
1:27:15 [Music]
1:27:16 2023 and even further past that
1:27:20 i was just kind of curious like when is
1:27:22 it projected to be
1:27:24 finished or when is like projected
1:27:27 completion here
1:27:32 i'll go ahead and answer that one
1:27:36 the reason why it shows originally
1:27:39 in 2021 was
1:27:43 several tips ago the plan was to do some
1:27:47 planning work with the thought and i i
1:27:50 can't remember the years exactly but i
1:27:52 think it was maybe
1:27:55 do some planning work this year and next
1:27:59 and then a try and apply for a grant but
1:28:02 as we talked with the tab last year
1:28:06 there's a lot going on in that area
1:28:07 between sound transit coming in
1:28:11 our concurrency model says we need
1:28:13 another crossing of i-90
1:28:15 there's now the priorities in the
1:28:17 mobility master plan
1:28:19 and we decided not to start that project
1:28:23 in that planning process because we
1:28:24 wanted to get more of our ducks in a row
1:28:27 and so to answer your question when it
1:28:30 will be finished i don't know
1:28:32 although probably maybe the question
1:28:35 that i should
1:28:37 that we need to work on the answer to is
1:28:38 when will we start it
1:28:40 but a lot of that depends on
1:28:44 external things like the timing of sound
1:28:46 transit
1:28:47 what do we want for gilman and the heart
1:28:50 of central a supply
1:28:52 what do we want for this crossing and so
1:28:55 there's a lot of work and a lot of
1:28:56 unknowns
1:28:58 and those we need to get figured out
1:29:01 then we can come up with a plan
1:29:03 of starting to do the
1:29:06 the detail planning to work it out to
1:29:08 then try and get the funding
1:29:10 to then go to design and construction
1:29:17 that answer your question joseph
1:29:20 yeah thank you yeah thanks for the
1:29:22 question
1:29:26 christy how about you
1:29:32 i just have a newbie question um
1:29:35 my question is so with the tip and then
1:29:39 the rating once that's done
1:29:41 the public how does it account for
1:29:43 public comment
1:29:44 or going through the process to council
1:29:47 adoption
1:29:48 i believe there's also a public hearing
1:29:49 each year
1:29:59 go ahead john i think you know the
1:30:00 schedule better than i do sure
1:30:03 yeah so in
1:30:06 i want to say it's april 19th it will be
1:30:10 presented to council and then
1:30:14 council will hold their deliberations on
1:30:17 the fourth tuesday
1:30:19 of april i think that's the 27th i don't
1:30:22 have a calendar in front of me
1:30:24 and then the first
1:30:27 monday in may is when the public hearing
1:30:30 will be held
1:30:31 and that's when the public can provide
1:30:33 their comments
1:30:35 and then from there
1:30:38 a couple of different things can happen
1:30:40 the hearing could be continued for more
1:30:42 public comments or it could be closed
1:30:45 council could meet on the first tuesday
1:30:49 of may
1:30:50 and do some more deliberating or they
1:30:53 could choose not to
1:30:54 and then the goal is to approve it on
1:30:57 may 17th
1:30:59 so the the best opportunity for public
1:31:02 comment would be at the hearing
1:31:04 which would be on the first monday of
1:31:10 thank you john i appreciate that and i
1:31:12 know you went over the dates
1:31:13 earlier i guess i was just kind of in my
1:31:15 brain thinking about the feedback loop
1:31:18 you know once it got approved if there
1:31:19 was a substantive
1:31:21 change what does that look like you know
1:31:24 as it comes back to tab and and sort of
1:31:27 as the tip
1:31:28 progresses but i can wait as we kind of
1:31:31 go through our future meetings so thank
1:31:35 yeah i'll just add a little bit
1:31:38 so the feedback that's received
1:31:42 that'll go back to counsel but i don't
1:31:44 anticipate it going back to the tab
1:31:46 that the feedback that they get at the
1:31:49 hearing
1:31:50 then council can decide whether they
1:31:52 want to make a revision
1:31:54 and keep the hearing open or if they
1:31:57 want to close
1:31:58 it and keep the tip as is
1:32:02 and then one thing i'll add to the
1:32:04 john's response is this this won't be
1:32:05 the only time
1:32:07 the tab will be looking at the tip this
1:32:08 will kind of be an annual thing
1:32:10 so we'll have an opportunity to always
1:32:12 kind of make a recommendation city
1:32:14 council
1:32:15 what the tip will look like even though
1:32:16 we're kind of looking at it twice this
1:32:18 year because of
1:32:19 kind of the full range scope of changes
1:32:22 that we're looking to make
1:32:24 the tab will be looking at the full tip
1:32:26 every year before it goes to city
1:32:28 council
1:32:33 so my screen moved around but let's go
1:32:35 micah sujata
1:32:36 tong hi so i have uh
1:32:40 two questions one is uh definitely for
1:32:44 like i i guess maybe john and steven
1:32:48 um if we could see or where i would find
1:32:51 the effect
1:32:53 on the total cost of these different
1:32:55 projects or even the yearly cost
1:32:57 based on how things are prioritized is
1:32:59 that something we normally take into
1:33:00 consideration
1:33:02 um and if we we can take that into
1:33:05 consideration how do we
1:33:06 see those numbers
1:33:12 is your question on um if we wait longer
1:33:16 on projects that the costs will rise and
1:33:18 how that impacts our priorities yeah
1:33:19 i'm assuming for some projects it will
1:33:21 be you know
1:33:23 very small change and there might be
1:33:24 some projects that there's a large
1:33:26 impact to the cost
1:33:28 to move them to a later date
1:33:33 that's a good question and
1:33:37 it's a little bit of a
1:33:40 guessing game because we're trying to
1:33:41 guess a number of things
1:33:43 so if a project has right-of-way
1:33:46 acquisition
1:33:47 we need to look at the cost
1:33:51 of per square foot
1:33:54 of land in essequa for different zonings
1:33:57 and obviously that's been going up
1:34:00 really high
1:34:01 another thing that we'll kind of have to
1:34:04 look at
1:34:05 it that could impact the cost of our
1:34:07 projects is
1:34:09 the cost of transportation construction
1:34:12 in this region has been growing at a
1:34:15 really fast rate
1:34:17 and the reason for it is washdot has a
1:34:20 lot of really large projects that they
1:34:22 have underway
1:34:24 and sound transit does too and so does
1:34:28 the city of seattle and
1:34:31 it's just a matter of contractor
1:34:33 capacity
1:34:35 has been really high and so things have
1:34:37 been going up
1:34:39 at a great really high rate what i don't
1:34:42 is as all the other agencies
1:34:46 in the region start readjusting their
1:34:48 budgets to the
1:34:49 new outcome of kovid what does that then
1:34:52 do to these long-term large projects
1:34:55 that are driving up the cost of
1:34:56 construction
1:34:58 and so i guess to sum up
1:35:03 we'll probably just take an assumption
1:35:05 and assume that construction costs are
1:35:07 going to go up at a certain rate
1:35:09 but with where we're at it's going to be
1:35:14 just a pure guess because there's too
1:35:17 many variables at this point
1:35:22 okay and then then my
1:35:25 my other question is about what exactly
1:35:29 our the tabs responsibility or authority
1:35:34 you know we kind of talk about this
1:35:36 discussion on the priority of projects
1:35:38 but i guess i'm not crystal clear on are
1:35:42 actually you know are supposed to come
1:35:45 up with that list that prioritization as
1:35:47 a recommendation right
1:35:49 or are we more trying to figure out the
1:35:51 guidance and how to apply that guidance
1:35:54 that as laid out in like the mobility
1:35:56 master plan
1:35:58 and and then apply that and and sort of
1:36:00 frame it that way
1:36:02 sure i can i can take that one though
1:36:06 the best way you can see it is that the
1:36:09 um tab is
1:36:10 helping provide guidance on how we want
1:36:12 to apply
1:36:13 a lot of that criteria but also giving
1:36:16 staff feedback on
1:36:17 how the criteria could look staff will
1:36:19 do all
1:36:20 kind of the hard work there in terms of
1:36:22 taking a list applying the criteria
1:36:24 and then bringing it back to the tab
1:36:25 just so you can see the results
1:36:27 and give give us further feedback on
1:36:29 okay this is exactly what i want or this
1:36:31 is you know this is kind of what i was
1:36:32 hoping to see
1:36:34 and staff will you know it'll basically
1:36:36 be that cycle the staff does a lot of
1:36:38 the work
1:36:39 ghost comes to the tab with a lot of the
1:36:40 questions of all right
1:36:43 does this or does this now me kind of
1:36:44 what you were looking for or what we're
1:36:46 trying to do
1:36:47 um and then try to produce the report uh
1:36:49 the results before
1:36:52 tab puts together a cathode
1:36:53 recommendation going to city council
1:36:57 and then staff will come communicate a
1:36:59 lot of that feedback and recommendation
1:37:01 to city council when we eventually meet
1:37:03 with uh
1:37:07 thanks stephen
1:37:16 what's your sign
1:37:19 i'm i'm good i think i ha i stated what
1:37:22 thought earlier okay how about you tom
1:37:29 uh i'm good i mean i'm very familiar
1:37:32 with cip's these haven't worked some
1:37:35 on consulting side for for years so i
1:37:38 understand how they
1:37:39 mostly mostly how they work and
1:37:42 kind of what i do know is they do
1:37:43 something similar for the agency i work
1:37:45 for now
1:37:47 i think my only question is if there's a
1:37:50 priority or something that we want to go
1:37:52 back and revisit it i know we spent a
1:37:54 lot of time putting those together
1:37:56 but something's added to it is there an
1:37:58 opportunity to do
1:37:59 maybe every other year as opposed to
1:38:01 every year so we don't want to be
1:38:03 changing criteria every year because
1:38:05 it's always changing you want to have
1:38:06 something set to kind of be able to
1:38:08 judge engage things by
1:38:10 over the years but um otherwise i'm
1:38:14 good i don't have any other comments and
1:38:15 questions i'm so quite familiar with
1:38:17 all this as well so
1:38:20 appreciate it i think that's all david
1:38:23 wagner had his hand up for a question
1:38:28 wilson
1:38:30 thanks uh just a quick question uh john
1:38:32 i probably missed it
1:38:34 but um or on the
1:38:37 annual projects and the mandated are
1:38:40 in the budget annually for those figures
1:38:47 the amount that gets put in can change
1:38:50 so for example the pavement management
1:38:53 program
1:38:54 we had a i forget what we're programming
1:38:57 in and then
1:39:00 for the 2020 budget
1:39:04 we cut most of it due to covet cuts and
1:39:07 then in the 2021 budget council
1:39:09 ended up putting in extra money in order
1:39:13 to try and
1:39:14 close some of the gap on it so the the
1:39:17 exact amount for the annual projects can
1:39:19 change
1:39:21 some of them are more certain like uh
1:39:24 i don't well i guess any of them can
1:39:26 always change but
1:39:28 like the small strategic capital project
1:39:31 i think it started out at 100
1:39:33 000 but then it had it an influence
1:39:35 inflation rate
1:39:37 and so then the next year it would be a
1:39:39 hundred and five thousand or
1:39:40 i don't know what it was but they do
1:39:44 change a little bit over time
1:39:48 but they they are displayed in a budget
1:39:52 correct
1:39:54 you said they're displayed in the budget
1:39:57 i said uh they have like a line item
1:40:01 yes yeah and actually all these projects
1:40:05 stephen mentioned earlier because this
1:40:07 is a planning document
1:40:08 and not the actual budget what
1:40:12 happens when the budget gets put
1:40:13 together is will take all the different
1:40:16 items that we're planning to do in a
1:40:17 year and then they get a line item in
1:40:20 the budget
1:40:21 and then get put in there the ones that
1:40:23 are going to actually be done
1:40:32 i might add one more comment about the
1:40:34 comment about cost and then labor
1:40:37 is it's very fluid and especially if
1:40:39 there's a lot of
1:40:40 projects that are going on in seattle
1:40:42 it's higher pay
1:40:44 higher rates so they'll draw a lot more
1:40:45 workers down there and sometimes it's
1:40:47 harder to get workers to do
1:40:49 work in outlining areas or outlying
1:40:51 cities uh
1:40:52 so the labor market can be very flexible
1:40:54 and the sale might
1:40:55 then go down and there's a flood of
1:40:56 labor and then things get a little bit
1:40:59 cheaper contractors make up
1:41:00 or in their lean times it makes up a
1:41:02 little bit higher prices when times get
1:41:04 good so it's
1:41:05 it's very fluid as far as the cost of
1:41:07 projects and usually after
1:41:08 a lean time like in copen when a lot of
1:41:11 construction was down initially
1:41:12 contractors a little bit a lot more to
1:41:14 try and make up for the profit
1:41:16 that they lost and so in a good year the
1:41:18 costs will go up quite a bit and that's
1:41:19 where you get
1:41:20 price increases and jumps and things
1:41:23 that so
1:41:25 so it is quite fluctuating
1:41:35 do we have any more questions or
1:41:36 comments on this
1:41:44 topic
1:41:48 it's even are you wanting to move on to
1:41:50 or we can
1:41:51 is that are we concluding that line item
1:41:54 agenda item i should say and moving on
1:41:58 yes yeah if there's no other comments or
1:42:00 questions we can move on to the next
1:42:01 item we'll
1:42:02 we'll be back at the next meeting on
1:42:04 february 4th to
1:42:05 have a much more robust discussion of
1:42:08 kind of the results of the criteria how
1:42:09 it was applied to
1:42:10 the project list and how everything kind
1:42:12 of ranked and then
1:42:14 discuss a little bit more of you know is
1:42:16 this what we want what else should we
1:42:18 consider
1:42:24 okay sounds like around a 5a
1:42:28 and we were way ahead of schedule now
1:42:30 we're right on schedule but it was a
1:42:31 good discussion thanks
1:42:43 john that's you with uh the work plan i
1:42:46 can pull that up if that helps
1:42:48 oh yes actually i was in the process of
1:42:50 pulling it up and then trying to find
1:42:51 it webex to unmute myself so i could
1:42:54 respond
1:43:07 [Music]
1:43:12 okay can you guys see the work plan
1:43:16 okay all right so stephen
1:43:21 did a lot of the work to put this work
1:43:23 plan together
1:43:25 and it's been in your
1:43:28 packet and hopefully they've had a
1:43:30 chance to look at it
1:43:32 but one day just have the opportunity to
1:43:35 ask see if there's any questions or
1:43:37 comments
1:43:38 about the the work plan
1:43:55 one thing i'll add on um kind of the
1:43:57 board's work plan is is this will
1:43:58 regularly change
1:44:00 every month as we kind of go through our
1:44:02 agendas and
1:44:03 make adjustments to kind of our schedule
1:44:05 so that we're
1:44:06 kind of accommodating the pace that the
1:44:08 board needs on topics but also
1:44:10 adding topics to our schedule when
1:44:12 necessary
1:44:16 i have a question
1:44:20 i was wondering about the um racial
1:44:22 equity training
1:44:23 if you could tell us any more about that
1:44:28 yeah it says tbd
1:44:31 uh i guess i would say i'd love i want
1:44:33 to make a pitch for
1:44:35 making that happen because i think it'd
1:44:38 be really useful
1:44:39 the yes i can i can kind of speak to the
1:44:41 racial equity training so one of the
1:44:43 things
1:44:43 um one major project that's kind of
1:44:47 going on citywide
1:44:48 is making sure that
1:44:52 the city is quasi a racially equity
1:44:55 racially equitable and inclusive
1:44:57 community and so staff is going through
1:45:00 training
1:45:00 and hiring consultant to conduct a lot
1:45:02 of that training and
1:45:03 one of the components that we're going
1:45:05 to be included in the
1:45:07 in the contract with the consultant is
1:45:08 to be able to provide racial equity
1:45:10 training to all our boards and
1:45:11 commissions
1:45:14 the right now on the schedule it's
1:45:16 listed as tvd
1:45:17 um just because i needed it i wanted to
1:45:20 put it someplace
1:45:21 in the schedule it could happen in march
1:45:23 or it could happen in april
1:45:25 um which is why it's dvd uh so that
1:45:28 that'll be finalized once we have
1:45:29 further
1:45:30 details which we'll have a consultant on
1:45:32 board hopefully by the end of this month
1:45:38 were you wanting to know more about what
1:45:40 the training might consist of
1:45:42 i was actually just thinking that on our
1:45:45 wish list it would be nice to have
1:45:47 some professional training
1:45:50 on racial equity and social justice in
1:45:53 regards to transportation specifically
1:45:55 and there's not a lot of literature out
1:45:57 there but there's probably some and i
1:45:59 think that
1:46:00 it's not something you think about but i
1:46:02 think there's a lot of implications that
1:46:04 we could be mindful of
1:46:05 um and so it sounds like this is
1:46:08 general and probably really valuable but
1:46:10 i think it would be nice if sometime in
1:46:12 the next
1:46:13 six to 18 months we could have a serious
1:46:15 discussion about how it applies to
1:46:17 transportation planning
1:46:24 okay we'll take a look at trying to get
1:46:26 that in as part of
1:46:28 this process for racial equity training
1:46:30 for staff
1:46:31 it's also to train staff to be able to
1:46:35 talk about this and and have our own
1:46:36 types
1:46:37 internal type workshops so that's
1:46:38 something that we'll see if we can
1:46:41 wear on the schedule that might be able
1:46:42 to fit
1:46:46 hi steven this is christy one thing
1:46:50 that i wanted to just share i was in
1:46:52 economic vitality commission last night
1:46:55 where we heard an update on the
1:46:58 potential signage codes changes
1:47:00 and one of the questions that came up
1:47:02 and i think
1:47:03 jen davis hayes will connect is having
1:47:07 potentially the transportation advisory
1:47:09 board take a look at signage
1:47:11 from a transportation perspective
1:47:14 so primarily around things like
1:47:16 temporary signage so
1:47:18 a-frames um
1:47:22 temporary signs those kinds of things so
1:47:24 i thought i might share that
1:47:28 yeah thanks good to know thank you
1:47:30 chrissy i'll connect with
1:47:32 jen um to see get a little more
1:47:34 information and
1:47:36 and figure out kind of timing on that
1:47:50 i'll go ahead and stop sharing the work
1:48:01 stephen do we have a staff report
1:48:04 i have a quick one if uh if that's okay
1:48:10 so uh just to kind of give a quick
1:48:12 update the city is moving forward on the
1:48:15 early implementation of the streetscape
1:48:17 plan which is to provide
1:48:20 improvements on alder in depth in
1:48:22 downtown issaquah
1:48:23 and that is to convert it to a festival
1:48:26 street
1:48:27 for those of you who aren't familiar
1:48:29 with the streets plan i'll send a link
1:48:31 after
1:48:31 today's meeting and you can read through
1:48:34 but it's it's
1:48:36 encompasses a lot of improvements to go
1:48:38 into downtown issaquah particularly on
1:48:40 french street and alder street
1:48:41 to make it more of a pedestrian friendly
1:48:44 environment to support our downtown
1:48:46 businesses
1:48:48 another update is to follow up on kind
1:48:50 of the complete streets policy
1:48:53 we're going to the february 9th study
1:48:56 session for city council to discuss
1:48:58 the complete streets policy uh
1:48:59 recommendations that came from the ward
1:49:02 um last year and then taking it to the
1:49:04 march 15th city council meeting for
1:49:06 final approval and that that's going to
1:49:09 kind of start a process for staff to
1:49:11 start making
1:49:12 updates to our street standards which
1:49:15 are other topics that we'll be
1:49:16 bringing to the board this year on
1:49:18 several occasions
1:49:20 if you're interested in learning more
1:49:22 about transportation topics february
1:49:24 9th is going to be kind of a full
1:49:26 transportation
1:49:27 themed study session i'll i'll send a
1:49:30 follow-up and reminder
1:49:32 with a link to how to access the city
1:49:35 study session
1:49:36 but we're going to be discussing transit
1:49:38 system we'll be discussing
1:49:40 the mobility master plan as well as the
1:49:43 complete streets policies
1:49:45 as well as traffic calming and um
1:49:49 electric vehicle charging station
1:49:51 policies related to that
1:49:52 john am i missing anything on from that
1:49:54 study session
1:49:57 i don't think so so again
1:50:01 i'll follow up with more information on
1:50:03 that city council meeting
1:50:04 um in case you want to learn more about
1:50:06 or watch the city council meeting
1:50:18 sorry i'm toggling back and forth
1:50:20 between screens and
1:50:22 i'm wondering if uh so uh item5c
1:50:25 is chair report and i do not have a
1:50:27 chair report
1:50:29 and um then the next one is the youth
1:50:32 report do we have a youth report
1:50:39 uh no and i maybe i'll just ask erica if
1:50:44 she wants to make a comment because i
1:50:45 know that was something you were trying
1:50:47 weigh in on when we talked about it
1:50:48 earlier it sounds like that was
1:50:50 something
1:50:51 important to you if you want to make
1:50:52 some comments yeah
1:50:54 um i just think in the interest of like
1:50:56 um yeah
1:50:57 about looking through things through
1:50:58 more of an equity lens um
1:51:01 and uh since we have a youth member i'm
1:51:03 just so sorry i didn't reach out to you
1:51:05 beforehand so i don't put you on the
1:51:06 spot or anything but i just wanted to
1:51:07 make sure that
1:51:08 um i noticed that that was a aspect that
1:51:10 could maybe go away maybe i was looking
1:51:12 at like an old agenda or something um
1:51:14 but um i just wanted to make sure that
1:51:17 uh you had a chance to weigh in on that
1:51:20 um i'm not a youth member so but i am
1:51:23 one of the younger members i just want
1:51:24 to make sure that vital uh
1:51:26 final voice was being heard if it um you
1:51:29 know if it needs to obviously if you
1:51:31 have nothing to report then
1:51:36 joseph you mentioned that you were on
1:51:37 other boards so i
1:51:39 want to echo erica's sentiment that it's
1:51:41 nice to um
1:51:43 i mean my kids are grown and moved away
1:51:45 so i'm not very connected to the youth
1:51:47 in this community like i used to be and
1:51:48 um i think it does have implications to
1:51:51 everything we do so
1:51:52 um you wouldn't want to create extra
1:51:55 work on your probably already busy
1:51:56 schedule
1:51:57 but i would encourage you to share
1:51:59 things you think that
1:52:02 this wide range of people on this
1:52:05 uh board would um benefit from hearing
1:52:08 uh and i guess maybe alec and i just
1:52:10 looked at the roster um
1:52:12 do we still have alec and we lost alec
1:52:15 he had to drop off
1:52:16 uh halfway through the meeting ah got it
1:52:19 so it sounds like alec and joseph are
1:52:21 youth members is that correct
1:52:24 okay again i don't want to put a lot of
1:52:26 pressure and you probably already have
1:52:27 lots and lots to do but
1:52:28 we want to make sure that that
1:52:29 opportunity is there
1:52:33 um yeah actually so um yeah i'm on
1:52:37 the squeeze advisory board so i can
1:52:39 probably like reach out to them and see
1:52:40 if they have like any
1:52:42 like comments um for transportation
1:52:45 related
1:52:46 um projects i
1:52:49 was actually in a meeting with them i
1:52:52 think a week ago or a couple weeks ago
1:52:54 um and they were talking about i think
1:52:56 proposals to the city of israel
1:52:58 for uh
1:53:02 i think it was the comprehensive plan
1:53:05 and one idea that i suggested
1:53:07 was um creating like after school
1:53:10 transportation
1:53:12 for youth so that like it would be more
1:53:15 convenient for nine to five working
1:53:16 parents
1:53:17 to pick up their kids from public school
1:53:20 um but yeah i guess aside from that i
1:53:23 don't have any comments for now
1:53:32 do we have any other business or
1:53:34 announcements
1:53:38 madam chair david wagoner um
1:53:41 under that topic uh what i'm used to
1:53:44 and i don't know if this fits but that's
1:53:47 usually where the good of the order
1:53:50 is is that the same thing that we're
1:53:53 looking at is other business
1:53:55 announcements are good of the order
1:54:02 i don't think we um actually made
1:54:05 have done that in the past but i am not
1:54:07 opposed to it i know it's 7 59
1:54:09 i'm pretty um committed to
1:54:12 finishing on time but i do think it's
1:54:15 nice for this board to get to know each
1:54:17 other a little bit
1:54:18 so maybe we i don't know david do you
1:54:21 have something specific because if you
1:54:22 have something specific for good of the
1:54:24 order i'd love to hear it
1:54:28 being on other boards good or the order
1:54:30 is where announcements
1:54:32 for the good of the order usually come
1:54:34 in so
1:54:35 that's all i was trying to point out
1:54:40 it's part of the robert's rules of order
1:54:41 since the order of it
1:54:45 that's correct that's correct that's
1:54:47 robert's rules of order
1:54:56 do we have any thing for the good of the
1:54:59 order tonight
1:55:03 i got one thing i get my shot tomorrow
1:55:06 at 10 45 in the morning
1:55:10 it's nice
1:55:15 hey i do have one thing um i know one
1:55:17 thing that i miss
1:55:18 uh one of the many things i miss about
1:55:20 having to be online instead of in person
1:55:22 is the before and the after the meetings
1:55:24 so um i think i probably was on for
1:55:27 three minutes beforehand but i'll try to
1:55:29 make an effort to get on a couple
1:55:30 minutes early stephen is there any
1:55:31 reason
1:55:32 we can't get in the habit of jumping on
1:55:33 10 minutes early and just chit chat
1:55:36 i'm usually starting the meeting about a
1:55:38 half hour early so anyone who wants to
1:55:40 get on and
1:55:41 kind of talk with everyone feel free
1:55:50 it'd be kind of a nice thing for us to
1:55:51 get to know each other a little bit
1:55:53 i am also pretty committed to starting
1:55:55 on time i'm not a big fan of rewarding
1:55:57 late people by waiting for them
1:55:59 unless of course we don't have a quorum
1:56:01 it's just sort of a core value of mine
1:56:08 i will try to start on time uh well if
1:56:11 there's nothing else
1:56:13 i think one of my roles is to close the
1:56:14 meeting do i need um do we need to do
1:56:16 that by motion or do we just close
1:56:18 okay uh well i suggest that at 801
1:56:22 we adjourn this meeting any objections
1:56:28 thanks all
1:56:31 thanks steven good night thanks everyone