Planning Policy Commission · Thursday, January 25, 2024 · City Council Digest

3. PUBLIC HEARING

Recommendation on 2024 Docket of Proposed Amendments to Comprehensive Plan, (A)

Valerie Porter, Associate Planner Public Hearing Order: Commission Meeting Materials · packet pp.3–12

Topics: Land Use

Open packet at p.3 ↗

Staff report:

On January 25, PPC will hold a public hearing and then deliberate on the proposed 2024 Docket of Proposed Issaquah Comprehensive Plan Amendments. A

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Comprehensive Plan: Draft Arts and Culture Element, (D)

Christen Leeson, Senior Planner · packet pp.13–32

Topics: Land UseArts & Culture

Previously discussed: Arts Commission · Nov 13, 2023

▶ Watch from 11:52 Open packet at p.13 ↗

Staff report:

The purpose of the January 25

5. REPORTS

Council Update

Christen Leeson, Senior Planner

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Upcoming Schedule

packet pp.33–35

▶ Watch from 57:08 Open packet at p.33 ↗

Staff report:

Staff Support: Stephen Padua Staff Support: Valerie Porter 7/11/24 7/25/24

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0:10 ↗ good evening everyone welcome to another

0:13 ↗ exciting edition of the planning policy

0:15 ↗ commission I'd like to call this meeting

0:17 ↗ of the January 25th planning policy

0:19 ↗ commission to order and it is

0:24 ↗ currently that's okay 6:32

0:27 ↗ p.m today's meeting is a hybrid meeting

0:30 ↗ the planning policy commission is in

0:32 ↗ person as well as staff comments at

0:35 ↗ tonight's meeting may be made in person

0:36 ↗ or

0:38 ↗ virtually for the record we do have a

0:41 ↗ few guests with us this evening

0:44 ↗ welcome for all who would like to speak

0:46 ↗ during public comments we do ask that

0:48 ↗ you speak clearly and pause frequently

0:50 ↗ that you state your name each time

0:52 ↗ before speaking and if you are attending

0:54 ↗ virtually or by computer um and you

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1:09 ↗ invite call into the meeting just do we

1:12 ↗ have a quorum this

1:14 ↗ evening we do have a quorum

1:16 ↗ Commissioners Milligan and altimore have

1:18 ↗ excused absences thank

1:21 ↗ you the first item since we have no

1:24 ↗ housekeeping this evening is public

1:26 ↗ comment and because we're having a

1:28 ↗ public hearing a little bit later

1:30 ↗ uh this is general public comments for

1:32 ↗ the planning policy commission we do ask

1:34 ↗ that people that would like to speak on

1:37 ↗ the public hearing that they wait till a

1:40 ↗ little later uh for those comments so do

1:43 ↗ we have anyone who like to speak for

1:45 ↗ general public

1:58 ↗ comment

2:01 ↗ there is no one in the audience who

2:02 ↗ would like to speak and there is no one

2:05 ↗ online I

2:08 ↗ okay great thank you

2:10 ↗ Chris tonight we are going to hold a

2:12 ↗ public hearing

2:15 ↗ for the

2:17 ↗ 2024

2:19 ↗ docket uh list of amendments for the

2:21 ↗ comprehensive

2:23 ↗ plan the public hearing will work as

2:26 ↗ follows staff will make a presentation

2:29 ↗ Commissioners we get to ask our

2:30 ↗ clarifying questions we'll open the

2:32 ↗ comment period we'll close the public

2:35 ↗ hearing a a motion must be made and then

2:39 ↗ we will go ahead and

2:41 ↗ deliberate so leave staff can go ahead

2:44 ↗ make their presentation I believe

2:46 ↗ Valerie is going to be presenting this

2:47 ↗ evening so when you're

2:50 ↗ ready thank

2:54 ↗ you good evening Commissioners my name

2:56 ↗ is Valerie Porter associate planner with

2:58 ↗ CBD and I'm here to talk to you about

3:00 ↗ the 2024 docket of proposed

3:02 ↗ comprehensive plan

3:03 ↗ amendments so for tonight's meeting we

3:06 ↗ are holding a public hearing to talk

3:07 ↗ about the 2024 docket and also take any

3:10 ↗ public

3:12 ↗ comments as chair of voice just

3:15 ↗ mentioned here's the process for

3:16 ↗ tonight's meeting I won't go over it in

3:18 ↗ detail but we're on step number

3:22 ↗ two so while looking at the docket there

3:24 ↗ are a couple of questions that I'd like

3:25 ↗ you guys to um consider one are there

3:28 ↗ any amendments presented on the docket

3:31 ↗ that are not relevant or necessary and

3:33 ↗ second are there any refinements that

3:35 ↗ need to be made to the Amendments that

3:37 ↗ are

3:40 ↗ presented here's a snippet U of the

3:43 ↗ docket it's over spans over two slides

3:45 ↗ but this is the first um snippet um the

3:48 ↗ first item is population updates as

3:50 ↗ mentioned at the last meeting we do this

3:53 ↗ annually um and it's just to update the

3:56 ↗ numbers the second item is a rezone

3:58 ↗ which I'll get into a little bit more

3:59 ↗ detail in a minute and the rest of the

4:01 ↗ items are um updates to all of the

4:03 ↗ elements that make up the comprehensive

4:05 ↗ plan in the packet this week we provided

4:08 ↗ a little bit more detail kind of showing

4:10 ↗ what um updates are occurring to what

4:12 ↗ elements and showing also what uh state

4:16 ↗ requirements are prompting a lot of the

4:22 ↗ changes as part of the uh amendments the

4:26 ↗ city is requesting a rezone which is um

4:30 ↗ triggering a land use designation change

4:33 ↗ City Hall

4:35 ↗ Northwest is located on the north side

4:39 ↗ of

4:40 ↗ I90 here's a map on the right showing

4:43 ↗ the existing land use designation which

4:45 ↗ is capital

4:48 ↗ facilities Community facilities thank

4:51 ↗ you and then the um the map on the

4:54 ↗ bottom is um the proposed um designation

4:59 ↗ which is MI isues and as you can see

5:00 ↗ it's comparable to the surrounding

5:05 ↗ uses here's the docket process tonight

5:07 ↗ we're having the public hearing um which

5:10 ↗ PPC will provide a recommendation and

5:12 ↗ then next the docket will then go to the

5:14 ↗ city council for review and a

5:16 ↗ decision the comprehensive plan is still

5:18 ↗ underway and so here again is a schedule

5:20 ↗ we'll be um next providing a draft of

5:23 ↗ the comprehensive plan um the quarter

5:26 ↗ two will be providing the final draft

5:28 ↗ for your review and then hopefully uh no

5:30 ↗ later than quarter three we'll have an

5:32 ↗ adopted comprehensive

5:35 ↗ plan so again here are the questions for

5:37 ↗ your consideration they are listed in

5:39 ↗ your

5:41 ↗ packets and I also just want to remind

5:43 ↗ the Commissioners tonight if you were to

5:45 ↗ um provide a recommendation for approval

5:48 ↗ you are not approving the items um to be

5:52 ↗ uh you're not approving the items you're

5:53 ↗ just approving the items to be processed

5:57 ↗ so for example you would not be

5:58 ↗ approving the rezone today you would

6:00 ↗ just be allowing staff to then work on

6:02 ↗ that

6:04 ↗ rezone here are the options for your um

6:08 ↗ decision today you have the option to

6:10 ↗ approve the docket as is you can move

6:13 ↗ one or more of the items to a following

6:15 ↗ year you can add something to the docket

6:19 ↗ or you can um not approve the

6:23 ↗ docket and at this time I'll take any

6:27 ↗ questions all right so we'll open it up

6:29 ↗ for clarifying question and if you could

6:32 ↗ just please state your name before

6:33 ↗ speaking that would be helpful for not

6:36 ↗ only the recorder but for our audience

6:38 ↗ here in at

6:42 ↗ home commissioner

6:44 ↗ Kennedy commissioner Kennedy so I think

6:46 ↗ my basic question is do we have time for

6:48 ↗ that docket it's a pretty beefy

6:51 ↗ docket yes we do um like I said

6:54 ↗ previously we've pre presented a lot of

6:56 ↗ the um comprehensive plan elements

6:58 ↗ already um the only item I think that

7:01 ↗ you guys haven't seen would be the um

7:03 ↗ rezone so it's definitely something that

7:07 ↗ we've um it's in our schedule to process

7:09 ↗ so yes we

7:10 ↗ do so followup to that is if it's on the

7:14 ↗ docket and we don't manage to get to it

7:17 ↗ for some

7:18 ↗ reason how does it just get pushed to

7:21 ↗ next year I'm going to use my

7:25 ↗ lifeline yes we want to include the kit

7:28 ↗ everything incl cluding the kitchen sink

7:30 ↗ on the list so and if we don't get to it

7:33 ↗ that's okay it could be added to next

7:34 ↗ year's docket or not uh the only things

7:37 ↗ that do have to be done however are the

7:39 ↗ state mandated

7:43 ↗ requirements right and just again that's

7:46 ↗ because you only get one opportunity

7:47 ↗ every year to actually

7:55 ↗ put any other clarifying

7:58 ↗ questions

8:01 ↗ right

8:21 ↗ presentation that's my

8:24 ↗ life okay so we are going to open the

8:26 ↗ public

8:28 ↗ comment that at 6:40

8:32 ↗ p. I'm just going to go through real

8:34 ↗ quickly some uh small rules but we do

8:38 ↗ ask people that would like to make uh

8:42 ↗ comments on the record that they would

8:43 ↗ unmute their microphone that they would

8:46 ↗ State their name they would speak

8:48 ↗ clearly and pause frequently that they

8:51 ↗ would limit their comments to five

8:52 ↗ minutes and then please mute your

8:54 ↗ microphone when done uh the same goes

8:57 ↗ for anyone in the room who would like to

8:58 ↗ speak

9:00 ↗ uh as far as the F minute

9:03 ↗ timeline so we will now open it up for

9:06 ↗ the

9:07 ↗ public would like to

9:10 ↗ speak is there anyone in the room who

9:13 ↗ would like to

9:14 ↗ speak there is no one signed up

9:19 ↗ online we will close the public

9:21 ↗ hearing at 6 6:42

9:26 ↗ p.m. now before we can begin

9:28 ↗ deliberation we need to have someone

9:30 ↗ make a motion in order for

9:35 ↗ us Bader yeah VI chair Bader I move to

9:38 ↗ approve the 2024 docket of proposed

9:40 ↗ amendments

9:42 ↗ comprehensive we have a

9:45 ↗ second commissioner Kennedy second

9:48 ↗ okay all right

9:51 ↗ Commissioners your

9:56 ↗ thoughts Mr Patterson

9:59 ↗ um yeah the the I think the docket kind

10:02 ↗ of shows what uh we've been working on

10:05 ↗ previously with the comprehensive plan

10:07 ↗ and will'll bring that all to fruition

10:09 ↗ and hopefully completion so no changes

10:12 ↗ or modifications from my perspective I

10:14 ↗ think it all looks great thank you

10:17 ↗ commissioner

10:19 ↗ Patterson else like to make a

10:22 ↗ comment yeah I

10:24 ↗ mean Fair voice here it's pretty

10:27 ↗ straightforward um commissioner

10:29 ↗ Patterson's Point we've been working on

10:30 ↗ quite a few of these elements

10:34 ↗ already kind of going through the

10:36 ↗ motions but definitely want to

10:38 ↗ make definitely want to

10:43 ↗ ask about

10:47 ↗ do and then I'll just say itat up a

10:49 ↗ little bit more

10:50 ↗ time is uh we are no longer the Arbiter

10:53 ↗ for the rezones yay so now that goes to

10:57 ↗ a different party so unlike years

10:59 ↗ previously we will not be having a quasi

11:02 ↗ judicial setting in here now this this

11:04 ↗ rezone basically goes on the docket and

11:07 ↗ then it goes forward to

11:11 ↗ party

11:15 ↗ right I guess we just need to look for

11:18 ↗ approval yeah yeah we'll take a vote so

11:21 ↗ all in favor of approving the motion to

11:25 ↗ 202

11:27 ↗ docket comprehens

11:30 ↗ plan please raise

11:34 ↗ your so for our

11:38 ↗ recorder thank

11:52 ↗ you moving on to regular business for

11:54 ↗ this evening we have one item and that

11:57 ↗ is to review the draft cont

11:58 ↗ comprehensive plan Arts and Cultural

12:01 ↗ elements Kristen Lon our senior planner

12:04 ↗ will be presenting this evening Kristen

12:06 ↗ when you are ready she gets ready this

12:09 ↗ this meeting is moving quickly so

12:12 ↗ everybody's got to stay with us but as

12:14 ↗ Kristen Gets Ready

12:16 ↗ um we'll wait her

12:26 ↗ presentation all right yes good evening

12:30 ↗ I'm Kristen Leon senior planner for

12:32 ↗ Community Planning and

12:33 ↗ Development pull up my presentation

12:36 ↗ here

12:54 ↗ whoops we

12:56 ↗ go whoa sorry

13:03 ↗ okay so tonight we are talking about it

13:06 ↗ used to be called former AKA um the

13:10 ↗ cultural element but we are proposing to

13:12 ↗ change the name to the arts and culture

13:15 ↗ element and we're looking at the draft

13:18 ↗ amendments these were done by

13:22 ↗ the there we go these were done by the

13:25 ↗ Arts commission and so our purpose

13:28 ↗ tonight is review and provide feedback

13:30 ↗ on the draft

13:32 ↗ element so questions for you all to

13:34 ↗ consider tonight one is are the goals

13:37 ↗ and policies specifically those that are

13:39 ↗ included in the fostering arts and

13:40 ↗ design section

13:42 ↗ implementable are they are they strong

13:44 ↗ enough do they have enough teeth um the

13:46 ↗ second is are there additional topics

13:48 ↗ that you feel should be added to this

13:52 ↗ element so the arts and culture element

13:54 ↗ is not an element that's required by the

13:57 ↗ state but the city added it in 1999 just

14:00 ↗ because we felt like it was important to

14:01 ↗ recognize our cultural and historic

14:05 ↗ resources now thanks to Amy we also have

14:07 ↗ more Arts as well um by the way we have

14:11 ↗ Amy Dukes here who is the liaison to the

14:14 ↗ Arts commission and she is our Cultural

14:16 ↗ Arts manager that right okay um her

14:20 ↗ title keeps changing but uh she's our

14:21 ↗ Cultural Arts manager and has worked to

14:23 ↗ update uh this element with her

14:25 ↗ commission so the existing element focus

14:28 ↗ is really

14:29 ↗ the basics since on support the art and

14:31 ↗ Artisans fund all the Arts programs that

14:33 ↗ you can encourage art and diversity and

14:36 ↗ our arts and culture exhibits and events

14:40 ↗ festivals and then promote Community

14:41 ↗ diversity and

14:43 ↗ participation they changed the focus

14:45 ↗ just a little bit those are all most of

14:47 ↗ those are all still in there but they

14:49 ↗ added align goals and policies with the

14:51 ↗ Arts and cultur strategic Direction in

14:53 ↗ the art strategic plan and then bring

14:56 ↗ isqua Washington State certified

14:59 ↗ creative uh District into Focus I'll

15:02 ↗ tell you what those are in a minute and

15:03 ↗ then acknowledge the community need for

15:07 ↗ space for art production and art at

15:10 ↗ Community

15:12 ↗ Gatherings so going back to the arts and

15:15 ↗ culture strategic direction of the art

15:17 ↗ strategic

15:19 ↗ plan um it's a little small but what

15:22 ↗ they have here this is this is their

15:24 ↗ whole plan and what they have though is

15:25 ↗ the vision what do they want to happen

15:28 ↗ and then what is impeding them or

15:30 ↗ blocking them from achieving those

15:33 ↗ visions and then lastly it's their

15:34 ↗ strategic Direction and how to get there

15:36 ↗ and what they've done in the element is

15:38 ↗ they've really focused on these five

15:39 ↗ directions which are integrating Arts

15:41 ↗ into policies and systems fostering the

15:43 ↗ Arts increasing capacity to support the

15:46 ↗ Arts expanding Arts access and then

15:49 ↗ including uh and celebrating the diverse

15:51 ↗ and Multicultural community so that's

15:53 ↗ really where the sections are now in the

15:57 ↗ in the element or the way they're

15:59 ↗ proposed second is bring isqua

16:02 ↗ Washington State Certified creative

16:03 ↗ District into Focus so back in 2020 the

16:07 ↗ city uh part of the city was designated

16:10 ↗ as a creative arts district and it runs

16:12 ↗ pretty much from Sunset and front front

16:15 ↗ North to about Gilman and this is

16:17 ↗ General North to Gilman and then West

16:19 ↗ over to Gilman

16:21 ↗ Village

16:22 ↗ and the state helps you to it's part of

16:25 ↗ it is to bring about economics you know

16:28 ↗ better econ iic Vitality in that area

16:30 ↗ and to promote the Arts the state

16:33 ↗ Washington arts program will help you to

16:35 ↗ promote the area when you're designated

16:37 ↗ you get $10,000 to do promotion you can

16:40 ↗ get up to about $50,000 to do capital

16:42 ↗ projects to help um spur uh this and

16:45 ↗ it's just they monitor and help you

16:47 ↗ figure out how well you're doing

16:49 ↗ economically um it's it's a pretty good

16:51 ↗ deal there are only 15 in the in the

16:52 ↗ state and we were one of the first so

16:55 ↗ it's it's pretty

16:57 ↗ cool um we also have acknowledged the

17:00 ↗ community need for space art making and

17:02 ↗ Community Gathering so the commission

17:04 ↗ realized the more they started talking

17:06 ↗ we've got this creative district and we

17:07 ↗ need to have all these places for art

17:09 ↗ and for building art and for Gathering

17:11 ↗ and celebrating and so they recognized

17:13 ↗ all throughout this element the need for

17:15 ↗ additional space to do

17:17 ↗ that I'm just going to go over the new

17:19 ↗ policies uh there's uh most of those

17:22 ↗ were that you were amended they weren't

17:25 ↗ huge changes but please if you all have

17:26 ↗ thoughts on those bring them up let us

17:28 ↗ know no I'm just going to go through

17:29 ↗ what's new and then one other thing so

17:32 ↗ the first is to promote our uh creative

17:34 ↗ District a

17:36 ↗ seven and then B we have uh examine and

17:40 ↗ adopt a process to encourage the

17:41 ↗ integration of public art create an

17:44 ↗ engaging public art master plan which

17:47 ↗ they don't have and it'd be cool that's

17:48 ↗ integrated with Parks trails and public

17:50 ↗ spaces and used to make informed

17:51 ↗ recommendations about public art

17:53 ↗ placement and incentivize artwork

17:55 ↗ through development and development

17:57 ↗ regulations as a component of new

17:58 ↗ development and I will tell you Amy and

18:00 ↗ I were talking earlier today about B3

18:02 ↗ and B5 and kind of what the difference

18:03 ↗ is and really and we're going to go

18:06 ↗ through and make some changes before you

18:07 ↗ see it next time but B3 is really more

18:10 ↗ about how to get

18:12 ↗ it Amy gets a percentage of not am um

18:17 ↗ but the Arts

18:18 ↗ fund gets a percentage of capital

18:21 ↗ facilities construction funds it's a

18:25 ↗ 05% that go into the Arts fund and that

18:28 ↗ can be used for public art on public

18:30 ↗ spaces so B3 will amend it a little bit

18:33 ↗ to clarify that and B5 you can't require

18:36 ↗ P private projects private developments

18:39 ↗ to put in art so B5 we're going to

18:41 ↗ recognize that's why it's incentivize it

18:44 ↗ we're going to talk about how to

18:45 ↗ incentivize that through the code

18:47 ↗ without requiring it if we can get more

18:51 ↗ that and section e continue providing

18:54 ↗ landar Landmark designation and

18:56 ↗ protection Protection Services in

18:58 ↗ coordination with King County we started

19:00 ↗ that back in 2001 established

19:03 ↗ Partnerships among cultural

19:05 ↗ organizations Better match um available

19:07 ↗ facilities with needs and encourage the

19:09 ↗ development and adaptive reuse of

19:11 ↗ community acceptable artist

19:14 ↗ accessible artist Studios exhibitions

19:17 ↗ and co-working and I love this access to

19:19 ↗ tool to Tool libraries that can be

19:21 ↗ shared and used by the

19:24 ↗ community lastly is to conduct event

19:26 ↗ because we're trying to make sure we

19:28 ↗ have implementation in every every

19:29 ↗ element uh conduct an evaluation every 5

19:32 ↗ years that measures the effectiveness of

19:33 ↗ the funding and regulations and programs

19:35 ↗ in meeting the goals of this

19:38 ↗ element uh one that was proposed to be

19:40 ↗ taken out were the isqua treasures who

19:42 ↗ knows what the isqua treasures

19:44 ↗ are that's kind of what I figured um the

19:46 ↗ isqua treasures were adopted back in

19:49 ↗ 1993 prior to our first comprehensive

19:51 ↗ plan that was in

19:53 ↗ 1995 and they were adopted by resolution

19:56 ↗ by the city council and they were I'm

19:58 ↗ just going to read this recognized as

20:00 ↗ significant Community attributes to

20:02 ↗ provide guidance in the preparation of

20:03 ↗ the city's comprehensive plan as

20:05 ↗ indicators of Community Values so

20:08 ↗ they've been left in the comprehensive

20:09 ↗ plan just to help us remember what our

20:13 ↗ Comm where our Community Values started

20:14 ↗ what the values were and kept moving and

20:16 ↗ we had proposed to take those out um

20:19 ↗ here's the list there are 35 of them we

20:21 ↗ had to stopped before I got to an actual

20:23 ↗ person um who was on the list so they

20:27 ↗ wanted to save actual Manning um that

20:30 ↗ couldn't be done so um but we refer to

20:34 ↗ this in the land use code as well we use

20:36 ↗ it in the land use code so it it needs

20:37 ↗ to stay in here plus it shows how this

20:39 ↗ whole thing got started this is where it

20:41 ↗ started so um that while it was proposed

20:44 ↗ to be taken out is going to be left

20:48 ↗ in um so we're back to the questions

20:50 ↗ that's all I have hard to stretch it out

20:53 ↗ Jason um but um so again are the goals

20:56 ↗ and policies included in the fostering

20:58 ↗ arts and design section implementable

21:00 ↗ and are there additional topics that

21:01 ↗ should be added to the to this element

21:04 ↗ and I have Amy as here as well to answer

21:06 ↗ questions great thank you and you're

21:09 ↗ leaving the treasures yes we're leaving

21:11 ↗ the treasures and it was proposed it was

21:13 ↗ proposed to remove the treasures and we

21:15 ↗ are going to leave them in

21:18 ↗ yes commissioner crass I've been looking

21:21 ↗ for Treasures I haven't found

21:23 ↗ any um so this is all awesome uh one

21:27 ↗ question uh especially around public art

21:30 ↗ is how is supportting maintenance

21:32 ↗ because it's not just building it but

21:35 ↗ with a mural or something like that

21:37 ↗ making sure is that part

21:40 ↗ of of the plan as well because it's not

21:43 ↗ I I'll turn it over there thank you

21:46 ↗ that's a great question it's not

21:48 ↗ actually listed specifically in the arts

21:51 ↗ and culture element but it is something

21:53 ↗ that lives in our budget so we do have a

21:54 ↗ maintenance line item um and so so far

21:58 ↗ it's been sufficient um we've had

22:00 ↗ conversations and I think this will be a

22:01 ↗ good conversation to have during the

22:03 ↗ master planning process um about really

22:06 ↗ being deliberate about the amount in the

22:09 ↗ fund so um so that when we're adding new

22:12 ↗ works we're actually increasing the

22:14 ↗ amount of the um of the maintenance line

22:17 ↗ item right now it stays pretty stagnant

22:20 ↗ so um so we have one it's been

22:23 ↗ sufficient to date um but I think Master

22:25 ↗ planning process that will be a good

22:27 ↗ topic

22:29 ↗ we have grown our collection extensively

22:32 ↗ in the last 10 years and it is expensive

22:34 ↗ to maintain maybe like in

22:39 ↗ this in B it's not just like if you have

22:42 ↗ the word building and support that may

22:45 ↗ help along the lines of this don't worry

22:48 ↗ about it later but it's it's worried

22:50 ↗ about it right the beginning because

22:52 ↗ especially with murals you know you want

22:53 ↗ to make sure people don't spray paint

22:55 ↗ them you have to maintain those probably

22:56 ↗ more than other things

23:06 ↗ thank you commissioner crass and thank

23:07 ↗ you Miss

23:09 ↗ HS Vice chair

23:11 ↗ Bader have a question about the

23:14 ↗ question how's that for dragging this

23:16 ↗ out um I I like the question one so are

23:21 ↗ the goals and policies implementable um

23:24 ↗ I feel like we haven't been asked that

23:26 ↗ for the other element

23:28 ↗ and so I like the question but it makes

23:30 ↗ me like Wonder is there something in

23:32 ↗ those policies like

23:36 ↗ question so so you can thank Amy for the

23:39 ↗ question

23:41 ↗ um and we'll think about that for the

23:44 ↗ rest of them but I'm GNA leave that up

23:46 ↗ to I'm GNA go back to

23:48 ↗ you um I think that that question

23:51 ↗ actually is something that the Arts

23:53 ↗ commission was wrestling with to some

23:55 ↗ degree and I just want to acknowledge

23:57 ↗ that I have two art Arts Commissioners

23:58 ↗ here um Rachel Wright our co-chair and

24:01 ↗ Chris Craven um so thanks for you guys

24:04 ↗ and if you want to jump in and answer

24:06 ↗ but I think you know because this

24:09 ↗ element is not a required element um and

24:13 ↗ because we want art to truly be

24:16 ↗ integrated um into the built environment

24:19 ↗ and into our community I think we were

24:21 ↗ just concerned that when we're

24:23 ↗ suggesting things like

24:25 ↗ incentivize um art and devel vment like

24:28 ↗ is that something that we can actually

24:30 ↗ pursue because I think the commission is

24:32 ↗ very interested in pursuing it but we

24:35 ↗ want sort of the green light that that's

24:37 ↗ something worth

24:40 ↗ working so it was really it was really

24:42 ↗ the group of volunteers um so I you know

24:45 ↗ I'm didn't realize that that's an

24:47 ↗ unusual no I like the question I was

24:50 ↗ intrigued by the

24:53 ↗ question great thank you Vice chair

24:56 ↗ B

24:58 ↗ commissioner Sima yeah and and to Vice

25:01 ↗ chair Bader's point I just look at like

25:03 ↗ A7 where it says um promote isqua

25:07 ↗ Washington State Certified creative

25:09 ↗ District identity function and Outreach

25:12 ↗ to audiences so the word promote and

25:15 ↗ that goes to that point like how do you

25:18 ↗ enforce that per se but you you answered

25:21 ↗ it very eloquently as well so um it's

25:24 ↗ more so a vision to be able to

25:28 ↗ um um push artart and promote it but to

25:31 ↗ a certain extent you don't you it leaves

25:35 ↗ it open per

25:37 ↗ se yeah that's a great observation um we

25:40 ↗ do actually have Highway signage now on

25:42 ↗ I90 that I don't know if you've noticed

25:44 ↗ it but it's like one of the tiles um on

25:47 ↗ one of the signs that basically directs

25:49 ↗ you to the creative District so there

25:51 ↗ are some actual tangible things that we

25:53 ↗ can do to promote um and arts Washington

25:57 ↗ as part of their um creative District

25:59 ↗ program has some very specific asks on

26:02 ↗ how we promote so um so yeah there's a

26:06 ↗ whole kind of

26:07 ↗ complex um variety of options for

26:11 ↗ promoting the district okay but some of

26:13 ↗ them are literally putting a sign on the

26:16 ↗ highway okay yeah and I was just looking

26:19 ↗ for I mean you pretty much defined what

26:21 ↗ what that promote entails basically and

26:25 ↗ okay thank you

26:35 ↗ yeah um thanks archel and and also

26:38 ↗ there's definitely interest in um

26:41 ↗ incentivizing businesses that are within

26:43 ↗ the creative District to either include

26:46 ↗ art um you public art within their

26:49 ↗ facilities or to um include creative

26:52 ↗ uses in their buildings um we know from

26:56 ↗ um a lot of of the creative businesses

26:59 ↗ and creative workers that are in the

27:02 ↗ creative district and also just greater

27:04 ↗ isqua that it is really challenging to

27:07 ↗ find Space where um they're allowed to

27:10 ↗ do their art we've had numerous um

27:12 ↗ numerous small businesses looking for

27:15 ↗ space in our creative district and have

27:17 ↗ not had great success finding um

27:20 ↗ building owners that would you let them

27:23 ↗ have creative uses in the spaces so

27:26 ↗ that's another area that we're

27:28 ↗ interested in incentivizing yeah I think

27:30 ↗ I think that that's really good because

27:32 ↗ you know the artwork will will be

27:35 ↗ renewable too so you may run I don't

27:38 ↗ know a mural or a piece for a year and

27:42 ↗ then where where you going to place it

27:44 ↗ after that per se and so that's actually

27:46 ↗ good to put Fund in towards where you're

27:48 ↗ going to place it after life essentially

27:52 ↗ thank

27:56 ↗ you

28:00 ↗ so I just had a couple language

28:01 ↗ questions about um some of the changes

28:04 ↗ so policy

28:05 ↗ A5 um talks about celebrate Native

28:07 ↗ American cultures and the communities

28:09 ↗ Heritage and diversity through Arts

28:10 ↗ programming public art and opportunities

28:12 ↗ related to cultural holidays which I was

28:15 ↗ thinking opportunities such as we

28:18 ↗ talking about

28:20 ↗ events yes primarily events um the city

28:24 ↗ is also um actually I believe at uh

28:27 ↗ Council committee earlier this week

28:29 ↗ adopted the cultural calendar to move

28:32 ↗ forward or they approved to move it

28:34 ↗ forward to city council so there is now

28:37 ↗ um a established cultural calendar that

28:40 ↗ the city um recognizes and um and so

28:44 ↗ some of those holidays have real

28:46 ↗ opportunities for Community celebration

28:49 ↗ um so yeah events basically very cool so

28:52 ↗ I just had a proposed clarifying

28:55 ↗ language that would just say

28:58 ↗ um after public artart instead of and

29:00 ↗ opportunities related to culture holiday

29:02 ↗ State and

29:04 ↗ event simplify

29:08 ↗ it that was just my proposed change on

29:10 ↗ that and then on

29:12 ↗ A6 this one was a little um harder to

29:17 ↗ read encourage the use of local artistic

29:20 ↗ and Artisan talent in preservation plac

29:23 ↗ making public murals sculpture events

29:26 ↗ and programs and promote local artists

29:28 ↗ were

29:29 ↗ possible

29:31 ↗ um artistic and Artisan seemed redundant

29:35 ↗ but that's just BB picky um and then I

29:38 ↗ don't know what me plac making means so

29:41 ↗ I was wondering and I might be

29:44 ↗ oversimplifying what you mean by the

29:46 ↗ language encourage the use of local

29:48 ↗ artistic talent in the creation of

29:50 ↗ public art such as murals and sculptures

29:53 ↗ as well as programs and events that

29:54 ↗ promote local

29:56 ↗ artists

29:58 ↗ yeah a placem would kind of Encompass a

30:02 ↗ lot of those things so we can either

30:04 ↗ list them out or we can say just

30:06 ↗ placemaking it it is a little bit

30:08 ↗ redundant I mean there's kind of a

30:12 ↗ sometimes placemaking includes things

30:14 ↗ like lighting and other items that are

30:17 ↗ you know like trees landscape

30:20 ↗ architecture and things like that but um

30:22 ↗ we can certainly simplify it by not

30:25 ↗ having such a laundry list

30:30 ↗ I was just looking at the language and

30:31 ↗ wondering how we could make it a little

30:33 ↗ bit clearer in some parts yeah and the

30:35 ↗ and I think the point of that um of that

30:39 ↗ uh policy is really the focus is on

30:42 ↗ local so utilizing local talent so yeah

30:46 ↗ so that's probably if there's less other

30:48 ↗ words in the policy it would probably

30:51 ↗ you know draw your attention more to the

30:53 ↗ point which is that we're utilizing

30:56 ↗ local talent

30:57 ↗ exactly which is kind of why I was I

30:59 ↗ tried to sort of simplify it to

31:02 ↗ emphasize that aspect

31:05 ↗ yeah as

31:07 ↗ well

31:10 ↗ thanks chrisser Patterson hi there

31:13 ↗ commissioner parison um had a couple

31:15 ↗ more questions about the creative

31:17 ↗ District program is there a timeline

31:19 ↗ designation for that or is that a I

31:20 ↗ guess permanent or

31:22 ↗ semi-permanent um that's that's a great

31:24 ↗ question it's actually a five-year uh

31:26 ↗ initial designation and then there's a

31:29 ↗ process for getting redes or continuing

31:32 ↗ on in the program so we were designated

31:35 ↗ um in I believe the end of the first

31:38 ↗ quarter um 2020 so um we will start

31:43 ↗ working on our process to

31:45 ↗ redesignate um pretty shortly here

31:47 ↗ actually nice and then uh along those

31:50 ↗ lines um it was mentioned that there was

31:53 ↗ funds for promos and Capital

31:54 ↗ Improvements are those on like an annual

31:56 ↗ basis or program basis where you have to

31:58 ↗ like apply to them or what's that

32:00 ↗ correct um we do have to apply they're

32:02 ↗ in the B bium budget for the state so um

32:07 ↗ at least every other year there's an

32:09 ↗ opportunity to apply for a multi-year

32:11 ↗ grant we currently have a

32:15 ↗ $150,000 request into the state and

32:18 ↗ should hear in the next couple of weeks

32:20 ↗ um so sometimes the the dollar amounts

32:23 ↗ seem to change quite a bit depending on

32:25 ↗ the way the budget for the state is

32:27 ↗ going but this year or for this bium

32:29 ↗ there was quite a lot of funding so yeah

32:33 ↗ fingers crossed hope fingers crossed

32:34 ↗ yeah thank you um my last kind of

32:36 ↗ comment is um I'm recalling we in a

32:39 ↗ couple elements we spoke about

32:41 ↗ neighborhood characteristics and trying

32:43 ↗ to keep them and I when I thought about

32:47 ↗ Arts and Cultural um in particular art

32:50 ↗ installations and such I was wondering

32:51 ↗ if there was any opportunity to cross

32:53 ↗ those over in a sense of if art goes in

32:57 ↗ maintaining the neighborhood

32:58 ↗ characteristic well it's funny you

33:00 ↗ mention that when I went to the Arts

33:01 ↗ commission and I was looking at their

33:02 ↗ list of things I said hey we're about to

33:05 ↗ go out and do all these neighborhood

33:06 ↗ plans and one of the things that we can

33:08 ↗ do is talk about what's important to you

33:11 ↗ all what what stands out here and then

33:13 ↗ maybe incorporate some art into your

33:17 ↗ communities but now that came out of my

33:19 ↗ mouth but that doesn't mean that they

33:21 ↗ agree with it or that you know but yeah

33:23 ↗ I think there is an opportunity to do

33:25 ↗ that am n yes and I also think that

33:29 ↗ would be another discussion item for the

33:31 ↗ master planning process

33:40 ↗ but I would um Vice chair Vader I had as

33:45 ↗ I'm listening to your responses it's my

33:47 ↗ question is like is there a functional

33:49 ↗ plan for the Arts like there are for

33:53 ↗ the can there be should there be like a

33:56 ↗ lot of the strategies right that are

33:57 ↗ being listed would live in a document

33:59 ↗ like that right and that's what that's

34:01 ↗ what their master plan would be they

34:02 ↗ don't have one what what they have right

34:04 ↗ now is the directive SL that yeah that I

34:06 ↗ showed you but yeah they're going to

34:07 ↗ work on a master plan which would

34:09 ↗ essentially be their functional plan so

34:10 ↗ talking about setting up a process for

34:13 ↗ the funds that we get from construction

34:15 ↗ projects public construction projects um

34:19 ↗ and how that happens

34:21 ↗ and you you know how they work but I

34:23 ↗ don't know what else would be in yes

34:24 ↗ that is what that would be yeah because

34:26 ↗ it feels like a lot the descriptors

34:27 ↗ right for giving would live there

34:29 ↗ instead of here which is more high level

34:31 ↗ as I've learned

34:33 ↗ so yeah just to say I think all I it

34:36 ↗ feels implementable um to me especially

34:39 ↗ given like the detail that you know

34:41 ↗ lives behind

34:43 ↗ it commissioner crass I think it goes

34:46 ↗ back down to in commissioner crass um

34:50 ↗ weird referring to

34:51 ↗ myself not used to that the uh in the

34:54 ↗ incentivized bucket and this is more

34:56 ↗ about about Outreach that incentivize we

34:59 ↗ have a major corporation that's based

35:01 ↗ here called Costco and could they really

35:05 ↗ help underwrite a lot of the things that

35:07 ↗ we want to have done within isqua um

35:11 ↗ that would take some of the burden off

35:13 ↗ of getting money from the state just be

35:16 ↗ able to have almost your your platinum

35:18 ↗ corporate sponsor that helps with some

35:20 ↗ of these things and I mean they're the

35:22 ↗ biggest one um

35:24 ↗ REI they just announced layoffs today so

35:27 ↗ probably wouldn't ask um and other big

35:30 ↗ benefactors who have employees here like

35:33 ↗ Microsoft and Amazon they are

35:35 ↗ benefactors of the Arts and I just

35:37 ↗ wonder whether that would be part of and

35:40 ↗ maybe it's not called out here of an

35:41 ↗ Outreach to corporate

35:45 ↗ sponsorship yeah I do love that idea um

35:49 ↗ I know the city is just adopted a new

35:51 ↗ donation plan um so I think there is

35:55 ↗ some movement in sort of um

35:57 ↗ how we go about um those types of things

36:00 ↗ like corporate sponsorship um we don't

36:02 ↗ have that um budgeted at all or our in

36:05 ↗ our plan in any way um but just to let

36:08 ↗ you know we do have another an

36:10 ↗ additional funding source um so in

36:12 ↗ addition to that half a percent of

36:14 ↗ construction projects the bulk of our

36:16 ↗ funds actually come from admissions tax

36:19 ↗ on movie tickets so um that is our main

36:23 ↗ source of funding so when you go see a

36:26 ↗ movie Regal

36:28 ↗ your the the admissions taxes bundled

36:31 ↗ into your ticket price um so you're

36:33 ↗ paying about a dollar that goes to arts

36:36 ↗ and

36:37 ↗ culture and you didn't even know

36:43 ↗ it uh care voice so first let me just

36:46 ↗ say that Thea always seems to be ahead

36:48 ↗ of the curve and I think the fact that

36:51 ↗ we have an element that's not even

36:52 ↗ required like fastic I do appreciate

36:56 ↗ appreciate that the board or the

36:58 ↗ commission is also looking to hold

36:59 ↗ themselves accountable by having a plan

37:01 ↗ I both those things were

37:03 ↗ excellent the only there's two things

37:05 ↗ that caught my eye that were a little

37:06 ↗ bit concerning for me we deal a lot with

37:09 ↗ standards and Designs I'm always a

37:11 ↗ little bit afraid of the word

37:12 ↗ incentivized

37:14 ↗ developers have this city back and forth

37:18 ↗ with development that would be my only

37:19 ↗ concern is I would want to encourage but

37:23 ↗ I wouldn't want to stipulate that would

37:25 ↗ happen part

37:28 ↗ not every

37:31 ↗ art or a mural

37:33 ↗ on but that's the only thing that really

37:36 ↗ concerned me as far as the whole thing I

37:38 ↗ would like to hear more about metrics

37:40 ↗ and I know you guys will develop that

37:41 ↗ with your strategic plan we've talked a

37:44 ↗ little bit about traffic tourism Oldtown

37:47 ↗ creative District I'm just wondering do

37:49 ↗ you guys as far as a you guys have any

37:52 ↗ idea where those numbers lie I mean I

37:54 ↗ always hear people telling me that come

37:56 ↗ and visit

37:57 ↗ out of town happens almost time I tell

38:00 ↗ somebody where I

38:02 ↗ live qu area love isqu mountains old

38:06 ↗ town every I'm just wondering is there a

38:09 ↗ way for you guys to tr

38:11 ↗ that we don't have visitation numbers

38:14 ↗ exactly um but we do we have a an

38:19 ↗ interesting window into it just recently

38:21 ↗ with the um the troll that was built um

38:25 ↗ and while we not counting actual you

38:28 ↗ know every person that visits um we are

38:31 ↗ part of a geocaching initiative um that

38:35 ↗ is actually giving us a really good idea

38:38 ↗ of how far people are coming um to see

38:41 ↗ the troll and our geocaching um

38:45 ↗ adventure for the troll just got some

38:47 ↗ other kind of level of Geocaching I

38:49 ↗ don't fully understand geocaching but it

38:51 ↗ seems very cool um but a whole another

38:53 ↗ level of Adventure on the Geocache and

38:57 ↗ so that is something that is is a new

39:01 ↗ product for our geocaching company and

39:02 ↗ they have all these metrics tied to it

39:05 ↗ so we're expecting a report soon from

39:08 ↗ them just to give us an idea of um every

39:11 ↗ time someone uses their mobile phone

39:13 ↗ near the troll we're getting all the

39:16 ↗ data I guess they've opt it into that so

39:20 ↗ we'll have lots of numbers at least

39:22 ↗ about the troll and I think the

39:24 ↗ assumption would be if they're visiting

39:25 ↗ the troll um and actually they leave

39:27 ↗ comments and we're getting a lot of the

39:30 ↗ comments um forwarded to us so we can

39:32 ↗ link the fact that they're visiting the

39:34 ↗ troll and they're also visiting downtown

39:36 ↗ isqua going to a restaurant doing other

39:39 ↗ things so we have like I guess some data

39:42 ↗ that we can extrapolate but we

39:44 ↗ definitely don't have you know

39:47 ↗ comprehensive

39:48 ↗ visitation um visit is AA might have

39:51 ↗ better numbers um but that's a really

39:54 ↗ good point like we should try to get the

39:56 ↗ data that they have I'd hate to step on

39:59 ↗ the foot of anybody staff um but it'd be

40:02 ↗ interesting even something like QR codes

40:04 ↗ at like troll to actually see the amount

40:06 ↗ of people that are coming to yeah and

40:08 ↗ there is a QR code at the troll as well

40:11 ↗ um and that is it links to the artist

40:13 ↗ website so they also are compiling data

40:16 ↗ for us so I'd say we right now we have

40:19 ↗ tremendous data about the um popularity

40:22 ↗ of the troll on the city's website and

40:24 ↗ social media um it broke kind all the

40:26 ↗ records for um the city in terms of

40:30 ↗ liked posts and things boarded posts and

40:32 ↗ things like that um but yeah we should

40:35 ↗ in another six months or so have much

40:37 ↗ more comprehensive data about the troll

40:40 ↗ visitation so I there's something like

40:44 ↗ uh with with mapping traffic there's

40:46 ↗ cell phone ping technologies that

40:49 ↗ cities um subscribe to I wonder if the

40:53 ↗ transportation folks if they do that

40:55 ↗ here utilize the same service around the

40:58 ↗ troll is the big draw right so to see

41:01 ↗ the volume of people without having to

41:04 ↗ take any action just knowing that their

41:05 ↗ cell phone came within a very short um

41:08 ↗ area of of the troll and and I think if

41:13 ↗ I remember correctly sometimes that data

41:15 ↗ includes where that that phone it's all

41:19 ↗ um anonymized but uh where they've

41:22 ↗ traveled from so that may give some type

41:24 ↗ of heat map of where people are coming

41:26 ↗ so not I think some of this may exist

41:28 ↗ may have to be licensed you could decide

41:30 ↗ whether it's worth it or not for this

41:31 ↗ but I know those those tactics are used

41:34 ↗ in in traffic great I'll have to check

41:37 ↗ with some of our colleagues to see what

41:39 ↗ they're already

41:41 ↗ tracking yeah no I I really appreciate

41:44 ↗ chair voice I really appreciate you guys

41:45 ↗ like I said I think the idea of coming

41:47 ↗ up with a strategic BR plan is great um

41:51 ↗ I do have to ask are are you guys

41:54 ↗ heavily invested summer events that

41:57 ↗ happen on

41:58 ↗ country because those are amazing I know

42:01 ↗ it's a little bit more difficult weather

42:03 ↗ permitting but uh this last year I think

42:06 ↗ I saw more events on Old Town I've ever

42:09 ↗ seen I'm always familiar with the summer

42:11 ↗ in the park um there was bl's garage

42:15 ↗ there was three or four different places

42:17 ↗ playing live music almost every Thursday

42:20 ↗ night in the summer of past year yeah

42:24 ↗ the um Arts commission has a granting

42:26 ↗ program and so we support our Community

42:28 ↗ Partners to put on a lot of that

42:30 ↗ programming um so quite a few of those

42:32 ↗ things were funded through the Arts

42:34 ↗ commission that's fantas

42:36 ↗ yeah and then one last question for you

42:38 ↗ miss Duke is the Shell station right the

42:40 ↗ old Shell station Oldtown is that City

42:44 ↗ owned so that would be one very very

42:47 ↗ small venue where you guys do a little

42:49 ↗ bit of art I know they flower

42:53 ↗ arrangement but those are the type of

42:54 ↗ small venues you're looking for

42:56 ↗ Crea sound like they're a little bit

42:59 ↗ hard yeah correct um the city does own

43:02 ↗ the Shell station it's currently

43:04 ↗ occupied by the Downtown isqua

43:06 ↗ Association um but we have partnered

43:08 ↗ with them to put things in that space um

43:11 ↗ also the uh the train depot we've used

43:15 ↗ quite frequently um partnering with the

43:17 ↗ history museums so it's there's not a

43:20 ↗ lot of spaces that we have dedicated but

43:23 ↗ we have utilized the ones that do exist

43:26 ↗ um the senior center the community

43:28 ↗ center The Lawns um for Shakespeare and

43:31 ↗ things like that so yeah we're trying to

43:33 ↗ make the best of what we have but we'd

43:35 ↗ love more opportunities and more

43:38 ↗ Partnerships and I think my my last

43:40 ↗ comment is just the commission yeah I

43:43 ↗ mean being able to go out and get other

43:44 ↗ sponsorship private donations companies

43:47 ↗ in especially our hometown ones fastic I

43:51 ↗ don't I don't know if it could be

43:52 ↗ something like theater where get a

43:54 ↗ platinum package something like that but

43:56 ↗ hopefully that's something the Arts to I

43:59 ↗ think there's a lot of people like

44:00 ↗ myself who who realize just how much is

44:03 ↗ has to

44:07 ↗ offering bias but between snow kwami and

44:10 ↗ nor Bend and isqua a lot of culture here

44:13 ↗ and I see a lot of

44:16 ↗ it constantly shown and and and visitors

44:19 ↗ that come here that truly enjoy it so

44:21 ↗ hopefully you guys are able to that

44:23 ↗ bring more visitors and

44:31 ↗ yeah just as I'm listening to I've been

44:32 ↗ trying to like scroll and so it might be

44:34 ↗ in here and I might have missed it what

44:36 ↗ I what resonated with me when I was

44:38 ↗ reading this is that it feels very like

44:41 ↗ internal and like a really positive way

44:43 ↗ and so it's the policies read as if

44:45 ↗ they're like encouraging both like

44:47 ↗ creation um within the city as well as

44:49 ↗ like enjoyment um opportunities for that

44:52 ↗ creative work within the city and so it

44:54 ↗ felt very like for the residents

44:56 ↗ um but a little bit of the conversation

44:58 ↗ I'm hearing now is also like how can the

45:00 ↗ Arts in the city bring people in um to

45:03 ↗ isqua and I don't think I see that like

45:05 ↗ reflected in the goals and policies and

45:08 ↗ so I don't know if that should be um in

45:10 ↗ there and is a goal or policy or if I

45:12 ↗ just missed it um or if really the

45:15 ↗ intent of this is for the community

45:18 ↗ itself

45:20 ↗ um yeah I think we can look back at

45:23 ↗ where that might be inserted because it

45:24 ↗ definitely is important especially for

45:26 ↗ the creative District program the

45:29 ↗ intention is also to have visitation um

45:33 ↗ so and the and the Arts commission is

45:34 ↗ also interested in that visitor um

45:37 ↗ participation as well and um yeah I

45:41 ↗ think we could just look to see where to

45:42 ↗ insert that that's a good

45:49 ↗ catch yeah to Comm cr's Point as far as

45:52 ↗ the parks again a draw and of course

45:54 ↗ Arts are for everybody all the residents

45:56 ↗ but the vice chair Vader's Point yeah if

45:59 ↗ we could actually

46:03 ↗ make on

46:06 ↗ Deck all around yeah and they um are

46:10 ↗ just working on their the economic

46:12 ↗ Vitality commission and the economic um

46:14 ↗ Development Department is working on

46:16 ↗ their um St strategic action plan um and

46:22 ↗ they have um they're focusing on outdoor

46:25 ↗ recreation and arts and culture as draws

46:28 ↗ into the city so we have been working

46:29 ↗ with them um so it it seems logical to

46:32 ↗ find a place to kind of bring that into

46:36 ↗ the wonderful I want to make sure

46:39 ↗ everyone gets an opportunity to ask

46:40 ↗ either Miss duke or your planner leasing

46:45 ↗ questions not often we get

46:50 ↗ visitors

46:52 ↗ okay

46:54 ↗ please

46:58 ↗ thank you for having us I'm Rachel

47:00 ↗ Wright and I'm the co-chair of the art

47:02 ↗ commission and I've been on the

47:03 ↗ commission for three years and it's been

47:05 ↗ really interesting to watch because we

47:06 ↗ have such an Engaged commission right

47:09 ↗ now that's interested in everything from

47:11 ↗ granting to policy and we're watching

47:14 ↗ sort of all the tie-ins that come

47:15 ↗ together you know for example with the

47:18 ↗ grants we're using a lot more data

47:19 ↗ analysis to figure out what are the real

47:22 ↗ gaps that we need to help with and the

47:24 ↗ issue of space has been the number one

47:26 ↗ thing that keeps coming up uh a year ago

47:29 ↗ 50% of the grant requests that came

47:31 ↗ through were for space alongside that

47:34 ↗ we're losing our creative Community

47:36 ↗ because you know before the pandemic we

47:38 ↗ had art East and they closed not because

47:41 ↗ of the pandemic they closed before and

47:44 ↗ uh following with the pandemic artists

47:46 ↗ are working from home and they don't

47:48 ↗ have collaborative spaces to come

47:50 ↗ together and we know that working

47:52 ↗ together and networking is a big part of

47:54 ↗ the creative economy

47:56 ↗ and it's been really interesting to

47:58 ↗ watch because we now have this

48:00 ↗ collaboration between the economic

48:02 ↗ Vitality commission and the art

48:04 ↗ commission where we're dealing with the

48:06 ↗ issue from different sides but we see

48:09 ↗ that this is so integral to isqua so

48:11 ↗ it's been really great to work with them

48:13 ↗ and to think about the visibility of the

48:15 ↗ creative economy what that means and not

48:18 ↗ just in terms of you know the economics

48:21 ↗ of creative designers industrial

48:23 ↗ designers of course software Developers

48:25 ↗ are included in the creative economy but

48:27 ↗ this issue of placemaking and

48:30 ↗ placemaking is really about how do we

48:33 ↗ make isqua distinct and a place where

48:35 ↗ people want to come to live and to enjoy

48:38 ↗ and to play so it's it's everything from

48:42 ↗ sculptures and murals to environment to

48:46 ↗ you know making it have a certain Vibe

48:48 ↗ about it that sets us apart and there's

48:50 ↗ a lot going on in isqua but we can't

48:52 ↗ really see it right now like it's just

48:54 ↗ as you're saying it's there's cool

48:56 ↗ things but we can't quite get a handle

48:58 ↗ on all of it together so that's really

49:01 ↗ where the art commission is coming and

49:02 ↗ saying okay well let's raise the

49:04 ↗ visibility of the creative culture in

49:06 ↗ isqua and let's continue in to invest

49:09 ↗ because it makes us a better community

49:13 ↗ and it adds value to the community and I

49:15 ↗ think even in terms of the sponsors I'm

49:17 ↗ not sure that they would sponsor into

49:20 ↗ isqua the city of isqua but it's an

49:23 ↗ important part of how they retain

49:24 ↗ employees attract employees and they may

49:27 ↗ start contributing in other ways so I'm

49:29 ↗ not sure it's a direct to our funding

49:31 ↗ but I think it's a really important part

49:33 ↗ of engaging those

49:35 ↗ companies commissioner crass we'll never

49:38 ↗ know unless we ask so totally have

49:40 ↗ companies that are based here and you

49:42 ↗ have ones who have lots of employees I I

49:43 ↗ worked at Microsoft for 25 years they

49:45 ↗ spent a lot of money on art at the

49:48 ↗ campus as well as they sponsor lots of

49:51 ↗ so you know absolutely so all I'd say is

49:53 ↗ give it a shot and then you'll know yeah

49:56 ↗ and we're we're really working to as

49:58 ↗ well is you know sort of

50:01 ↗ raising the awareness of other nonprofit

50:05 ↗ organizations um you know it's

50:07 ↗ interesting here in aaqua we have we

50:09 ↗ really we have Village Theater but most

50:11 ↗ of the granting that we do is actually

50:13 ↗ to nonprofits they're doing art projects

50:16 ↗ so again we've got these gaps where it

50:18 ↗ seems like with as a community with so

50:20 ↗ much going on that we should have more

50:22 ↗ Arts organizations more spaces and

50:24 ↗ that's what we're trying get out is what

50:26 ↗ are the underlying issues and some of

50:28 ↗ them are simple well seemingly simple

50:30 ↗ you know like we have when when Amy was

50:32 ↗ working on permitting the troll the

50:34 ↗ troll is I believe a was permitted under

50:37 ↗ a shed a sign this the troll is a sign

50:41 ↗ and other artwork is done under a shed

50:43 ↗ permit we don't have an art permit so at

50:46 ↗ the art commission we'll sit there and

50:47 ↗ talk and say why don't we have an art

50:49 ↗ permit like that seems so logical so

50:52 ↗ it's this is the way we're trying to get

50:54 ↗ into process policy to say like this is

50:56 ↗ a significant part of our community and

50:59 ↗ we need to have the policies so that we

51:00 ↗ can actually bring good things to

51:04 ↗ life question based on what you're

51:06 ↗ saying that is really for Kristen of

51:07 ↗ like what zone would these art

51:10 ↗ facilities be permitted in or like

51:13 ↗ what's their like land use like I think

51:15 ↗ there I we I don't even think we have a

51:17 ↗ category because they would be permitted

51:18 ↗ anywhere I'll go back and double check

51:20 ↗ but I didn't know that was like a

51:21 ↗ barrier um we have talked about the

51:25 ↗ perit issue with with

51:28 ↗ Amy troll is a sign troll is a sign I

51:31 ↗ would I would say we have anecdotal

51:33 ↗ feedback from artists whove tried to

51:35 ↗ rent retail space um around and they've

51:37 ↗ been one one uh studio in particular

51:40 ↗ that does uh art classes for kids and

51:42 ↗ music classes she says she's been turned

51:44 ↗ down at 10 different

51:46 ↗ places yeah it's a challenge for

51:49 ↗ sure commissioner yeah this is some we

51:52 ↗ probably have to ask the staff something

51:54 ↗ that we may have to look at in in this

51:57 ↗ um commission as well and if if that

52:00 ↗ isn't defined within our policies per se

52:04 ↗ and make sure we look at it from a

52:06 ↗ standpoint of not making it a barrier

52:10 ↗ but almost an opportunity for it to make

52:14 ↗ it easier for the artwork to be

52:16 ↗ displayed ac across the

52:21 ↗ community I would just say one other

52:23 ↗ example tied to that and I've I've

52:26 ↗ brought it up to city council and and

52:28 ↗ other places you know this this idea of

52:30 ↗ the sign code and the the lack of an art

52:33 ↗ permit an example is the brown bear

52:35 ↗ carsh is going on in in Gilman that is

52:38 ↗ the gateway to our creative District the

52:40 ↗ policy came before the design review

52:42 ↗ commission to get reviewed they have a

52:44 ↗ long wall that is not allowed per the

52:46 ↗ code so there needs to be something to

52:48 ↗ mitigate the long wall so the

52:49 ↗ development commission says how about a

52:51 ↗ mural that would be great in our

52:53 ↗ creative District well we bump right up

52:55 ↗ against the sign codee because in that

52:57 ↗ mural you couldn't have Bears because

52:59 ↗ bears would be a part of the marketing

53:03 ↗ of the brand so when we talk about

53:06 ↗ making it easier or incentivizing it's

53:08 ↗ really this how do we take a company

53:10 ↗ like brown bear who is not a creative

53:13 ↗ business but could participate in a

53:15 ↗ creative District via artwork but we're

53:18 ↗ setting up our own blocks to make it

53:20 ↗ hard for them to put a mural that

53:22 ↗ relates to their bears the bears like

53:24 ↗ the bears that are on over by Taco Time

53:26 ↗ you can't put those bears in the

53:27 ↗ creative District because of the sign

53:29 ↗ code so that's we're we're looking at

53:31 ↗ very like tactical things where it's

53:34 ↗ like it's

53:36 ↗ hard black bears good idea yeah wow so

53:39 ↗ the one the the the company mascot that

53:42 ↗ bear statue that bronze out there not be

53:45 ↗ replicated correct

53:48 ↗ correct you build their car wash

53:53 ↗ without all right any further questions

53:56 ↗ for M

53:58 ↗ Ray uh commissioner Pon uh can we go

54:00 ↗ back to the issue of space topic a

54:02 ↗ little bit I'm curious what some of

54:04 ↗ those barriers are I mean you kind of

54:05 ↗ alluded to um retail space or money

54:09 ↗ being uh given the permission to you

54:11 ↗ know rent or whatever it is um what are

54:13 ↗ some of the other kind of

54:14 ↗ characteristics of that issue of space

54:17 ↗ well it depends on which area you're

54:18 ↗ you're looking at so from the art making

54:21 ↗ perspective you know the central issue

54:23 ↗ is when you make art you make a mess

54:25 ↗ right and you need certain things in the

54:27 ↗ buildings like you need to have a sink

54:29 ↗ to do paint and Ceramics things like

54:32 ↗ that so there's first the lack of actual

54:34 ↗ spaces that have the the amenities that

54:36 ↗ people need to make the second part is

54:38 ↗ damage to the building so that's what

54:40 ↗ people are saying no to they don't want

54:42 ↗ you know like a room like this you don't

54:43 ↗ want to damage the carpet that kind of

54:45 ↗ thing so that's that's the first part um

54:48 ↗ the second is just really um you know

54:51 ↗ the kind of space that would be

54:53 ↗ appropriate to actually create more of a

54:55 ↗ community you know we have a community

54:57 ↗ center we have a senior center we do not

54:59 ↗ have an art center so you know if we

55:01 ↗ look at other cities you know there are

55:03 ↗ performance Halls you know well here's

55:06 ↗ an issue um it's it's kind of

55:09 ↗ unbelievable uh isqua has the ISA

55:11 ↗ philarmonic Orchestra I did not know

55:13 ↗ that until I joined the art commission

55:15 ↗ and saw their Grant well they do not

55:18 ↗ perform in isqua because they do not

55:20 ↗ have a place now they have tried to

55:22 ↗ perform at the high school but the high

55:24 ↗ school has stopped renting out their

55:26 ↗ Performance Hall um there's lots of

55:28 ↗ different reasons that change the

55:29 ↗ current one is due to covid restrictions

55:32 ↗ so we have a performance hall we have a

55:33 ↗ philarmonic but we can't match the two

55:35 ↗ of them together so it's it's again

55:38 ↗ those tactical things like that of how

55:39 ↗ do we how do we open up they they

55:41 ↗ perform um over uh in samamish they did

55:45 ↗ The Nutcracker down in Renton they don't

55:47 ↗ perform here um and then basically you

55:50 ↗ know other other cities have things like

55:52 ↗ really thinking of things as a creative

55:54 ↗ hub Hub so it's a combination of artisan

55:57 ↗ residents who have Studios together

55:59 ↗ people like to come through and actually

56:01 ↗ see the the making process it's

56:04 ↗ typically paired with also being a hub

56:06 ↗ for local

56:07 ↗ nonprofits so it's it's those kinds of

56:10 ↗ things we're we're a city that you know

56:12 ↗ should have those anchors we have

56:14 ↗ Village Theater but we're missing other

56:16 ↗ other components they're definitely

56:18 ↗ Community

56:23 ↗ draws

56:26 ↗ great presentation I want to thank and

56:29 ↗ du's fastic Advocate forward to your

56:32 ↗ guys' work kind I'm looking forward to

56:35 ↗ see thank you so much are there any

56:37 ↗ further questions for either

56:40 ↗ of

56:42 ↗ thank great

56:49 ↗ discussion right that concludes our

56:51 ↗ regular business for this evening we're

56:54 ↗ going to move on to

56:56 ↗ report I

56:58 ↗ believe Le

57:01 ↗ up I have no

57:06 ↗ reports

57:08 ↗ okay moving on to other business and

57:12 ↗ announcement I don't have any of those

57:14 ↗ either

57:16 ↗ okay is make it a quick exit is there

57:20 ↗ anything from the

57:22 ↗ commission all right well I want to

57:24 ↗ thank everybody for coming including um

57:26 ↗ the Arts commission as well as staff

57:30 ↗ Commissioners and we will keep the

57:31 ↗ posted on the February 8th planning

57:33 ↗ policy

57:34 ↗ commission U through email otherwise I

57:39 ↗ you guys all have a wonderful weekend we

57:40 ↗ will conclude this evening's c meeting

57:44 ↗ at 7:30 thank you

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Attendance

Council / Members (6)

Voiss

Vice-Chair Bader

Commissioners Esemuede

Kennedy

Krass

Patterson (Alternate)

Staff (1)

Amy Dukes, Arts Commission Liaison Christen Leeson, Senior Planner Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager Valerie Porter, Associate Planner 2