Planning Policy Commission · Thursday, March 14, 2024 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of Jan. 11, 2024

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Staff report:

MINUTES SPECIAL JOINT MEETING PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION & ECONOMIC VITALITY COMMISSION 6:30 p.m. – Thursday, January 11, 2024

Minutes of Jan. 25, 2024

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Staff report:

MINUTES PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION 6:30 p.m. – Thursday, January 25, 2024

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

House Bill 1220: Emergency Shelters and Supportive Housing, (D)

90 min · Christen Leeson, Senior Planner · packet pp.15–22

Topics: HousingPublic Safety

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Staff report:

The purpose of the March 14

5. REPORTS

Council Update

Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Upcoming Schedule

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▪ Middle Housing Standards Update ▪ Housing Analysis

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0:07 ↗ okay good evening I would like to call

0:09 ↗ the March 14th planning policy

0:11 ↗ Commission meeting to order at 6:35

0:15 ↗ p.m. um today's meeting is a hybrid

0:18 ↗ meeting uh the planning policy

0:20 ↗ commission is in person but staff or

0:22 ↗ members of the public may be attending

0:23 ↗ virtually or in person hopefully those

0:26 ↗ of you are attending virtually are

0:27 ↗ outside um on this beautiful evening

0:30 ↗ um so staff do we have a quorum

0:33 ↗ tonight yes we do perfect okay moving

0:38 ↗ right along our first item of business

0:40 ↗ is to take action to approve the minutes

0:42 ↗ for the January 11th and January 25th

0:44 ↗ PPC meetings are there any corrections

0:48 ↗ to the draft January 11th 2024 minutes

0:51 ↗ provided in the agenda

0:54 ↗ packet hearing none those minutes are

0:58 ↗ approved um are there any question CS to

1:00 ↗ the draft January 25th 2024 minutes

1:03 ↗ provided in the agenda

1:06 ↗ packet also hearing none those minutes

1:08 ↗ are approved so our next item of

1:11 ↗ business is public

1:13 ↗ comments so we'll hold public comment at

1:15 ↗ this time um has anyone signed up to

1:17 ↗ make public

1:19 ↗ comment there's no one in the room that

1:21 ↗ has asked for public

1:24 ↗ comment we do have one person online um

1:28 ↗ Mr kveld do you would you would you like

1:30 ↗ to

1:33 ↗ speak I'm not hearing anything so

1:39 ↗ no okay fastest first three agenda items

1:43 ↗ ever um so we'll move on then to regular

1:46 ↗ business um and so we only have one item

1:48 ↗ under regular business tonight and it's

1:50 ↗ House Bill 1220 Emergency Shelters and

1:53 ↗ Supportive

1:54 ↗ Housing so Kristen Lon senior planner

1:56 ↗ will be presenting tonight so Kristen go

1:59 ↗ ahead

2:09 ↗ all right thank you very much yes I'm

2:11 ↗ Kristen Leon senior

2:13 ↗ planner tonight we're going to talk

2:15 ↗ about amendments for House Bill

2:19 ↗ 1220 which is in regards to Emergency

2:23 ↗ Shelters emergency housing permanent

2:26 ↗ Supportive Housing and transitional

2:28 ↗ housing so our our protocol for tonight

2:33 ↗ is to uh review and provide feedback on

2:35 ↗ the proposed

2:37 ↗ amendments any directions needed is that

2:39 ↗ are there any additional regulations

2:41 ↗ that be should be considered uh in the

2:43 ↗ ordinance to address public health and

2:45 ↗ safety for these

2:49 ↗ uses I'll bring that up again at the end

2:52 ↗ so you may remember this we use it

2:54 ↗ whenever we talk about housing but it's

2:55 ↗ the housing Continuum sort of our length

2:58 ↗ of or our different types of housing and

3:00 ↗ usually these are covering the last two

3:03 ↗ the affordable rental ownership and

3:05 ↗ market rate rental and ownership but

3:07 ↗ these are addressing unsheltered

3:09 ↗ homeless emergency sheltered

3:10 ↗ transitional Supportive Housing and

3:13 ↗ subsidized housing that is what um these

3:15 ↗ amendments will help

3:17 ↗ address so House Bill 1220 became

3:20 ↗ effective in September of

3:22 ↗ 2021 as I noted it requires that

3:24 ↗ jurisdictions allow Emergency Shelters

3:27 ↗ emergency housing permanent support of

3:28 ↗ Housing and transitional housing within

3:30 ↗ their

3:31 ↗ jurisdictions you may regulate for

3:34 ↗ reasonable occupancy spacing and

3:36 ↗ intensity of use as long as it doesn't

3:39 ↗ prohibit that use within your city and

3:42 ↗ may means don't have to it's an option

3:45 ↗ and there's not really any guidance on

3:47 ↗ how to do

3:48 ↗ that so it

3:51 ↗ also house bill is much larger that I'm

3:54 ↗ talking about here but everything else

3:56 ↗ that's required is required in the

3:58 ↗ comprehensive plan so it's keep an

4:00 ↗ inventory um make sure that you're

4:02 ↗ providing for all affordable housing and

4:04 ↗ so we've addressed those policies and

4:05 ↗ one that's new this year is to allow for

4:08 ↗ I'm not going to list them all again but

4:09 ↗ all of these uses um within designated

4:13 ↗ areas our structure is to address

4:16 ↗ emergency shelters in one section

4:18 ↗ because they're a little different and

4:20 ↗ then address the Supportive Housing

4:22 ↗ which are the emergency permanent

4:24 ↗ supportive and transitional um in

4:26 ↗ another section so that's how we've

4:28 ↗ structured it

4:30 ↗ the Emergency Shelters and I've actually

4:32 ↗ given a heads up to commissioner

4:34 ↗ commissioner altimore that she may be my

4:36 ↗ phona friend for tonight because she is

4:38 ↗ um very educated in this area she's an

4:41 ↗ expert so um Emergency Shelters um the

4:45 ↗ state requirements and definitions of

4:47 ↗ these is that they are temporary shelter

4:49 ↗ for those who are currently homeless you

4:52 ↗ cannot require a lease or an occup

4:55 ↗ occupancy agreement for these uses they

4:58 ↗ may include day and warming Center so if

5:01 ↗ it's really really hot in the summer

5:03 ↗ it's a place for people to go cool off

5:04 ↗ maybe get some food and in the winter if

5:06 ↗ it's really cold that's also a place to

5:08 ↗ go and these the state requires that

5:10 ↗ these must be allowed where hotels are

5:13 ↗ allowed now we are also supp proposing

5:16 ↗ some additional regulations so we are

5:19 ↗ also proposing to allow these in

5:21 ↗ existing religious and public

5:24 ↗ facilities they must be at least a half

5:26 ↗ a mile from each other they should be

5:28 ↗ limited to 50 residents per facility and

5:31 ↗ how here's we came up with that because

5:33 ↗ right now we have some emergency housing

5:35 ↗ that's in over in Motel 6 and generally

5:38 ↗ they get between 29 and 34 in the past

5:40 ↗ few years people that they've helped

5:43 ↗ that they've housed there so we kind of

5:45 ↗ looked at a 35 number 40 would be nice

5:48 ↗ to have the that but the city's going to

5:50 ↗ grow area is going to grow things change

5:52 ↗ so 50 would be a nice buffer okay so we

5:56 ↗ said 50 per 50 residents per per

5:59 ↗ facility

6:00 ↗ an operational plan must be provided and

6:02 ↗ the and submitted to the city and

6:05 ↗ updated annually or if there are

6:07 ↗ significant changes during the year that

6:08 ↗ needs to be submitted to the city it

6:10 ↗ would include Safety and Security plans

6:12 ↗ code of conduct for the residents and

6:14 ↗ community relations plan and then notice

6:17 ↗ for Emergency Shelters notice can be

6:19 ↗ waved in response to state county or

6:21 ↗ local emergency like flooding fires that

6:24 ↗ kind of

6:25 ↗ thing so this is where the state

6:27 ↗ requires them they require them where

6:28 ↗ hotels are allowed and these are the

6:30 ↗ zones shown on the

6:32 ↗ map we are also proposing to allow these

6:35 ↗ in religious and public facilities which

6:37 ↗ would include all the single family and

6:39 ↗ multif family zones and mixed use

6:41 ↗ residential and uh our Human Services

6:45 ↗ folks are working with religious

6:48 ↗ facilities right now and potentially

6:50 ↗ other public facilities such as the

6:52 ↗ library to see if we can use those to

6:54 ↗ get agreements to see if we can use

6:56 ↗ those as emergency facilities if needed

6:58 ↗ so that's why we added

7:01 ↗ that and then if you look at all of it

7:04 ↗ if we allow where hotels are allowed as

7:06 ↗ well as uh religious facilities and um

7:10 ↗ public facilities these are all the

7:11 ↗ zones where they'd be

7:15 ↗ allowed so before I moved on to the

7:17 ↗ other one do you all have any questions

7:18 ↗ so

7:19 ↗ far yes commissioner crass hello um so

7:24 ↗ this is where they're allowed the

7:26 ↗ question is is there you need to

7:31 ↗ this is not going to come off great but

7:33 ↗ do we need to allow it everywhere is

7:35 ↗ there is there a shortage of areas to

7:38 ↗ have these or does it make sense to keep

7:40 ↗ it as you mentioned in areas where

7:43 ↗ there's hotels public

7:45 ↗ facilities um and religious facilities

7:48 ↗ versus single family well so the state

7:50 ↗ requires that we allow them in h

7:53 ↗ wherever hotels are allowed and whatever

7:55 ↗ zon those are allowed we're proposing to

7:57 ↗ allow them in these zones but this is

8:00 ↗ because this is where religious

8:02 ↗ facilities and public facilities so the

8:04 ↗ religious are in single family areas

8:06 ↗ it's not like these will be in in single

8:08 ↗ family residences these will be in okay

8:11 ↗ right and and so you know there are a

8:13 ↗ lot of churches that are loc located say

8:15 ↗ in single family Suburban yeah and we'll

8:17 ↗ need those

8:21 ↗ sites uh commissioner SM yeah and I

8:24 ↗ guess the question if you could pull up

8:26 ↗ the slide for the hotels the

8:29 ↗ areas that are zoned for hotels okay

8:32 ↗ good yeah so I see that it's not too

8:34 ↗ many areas you look not yeah and that's

8:37 ↗ probably why the proposal is to add

8:40 ↗ those additional areas as well okay

8:43 ↗ thank you you're welcome and then I

8:45 ↗ think commissioner

8:46 ↗ Milligan thank you okay and then the

8:49 ↗ next slide that has the

8:52 ↗ additional the one that has all of

8:54 ↗ them thank you uh so are you saying that

8:58 ↗ every area that has has any color in it

9:02 ↗ is the zoning area that where it would

9:04 ↗ be allowed yes but only in an existing

9:07 ↗ church or an existing public facility so

9:10 ↗ that would be City Hall yeah that would

9:12 ↗ be not necessarily in the whole so I

9:15 ↗ know um close to close to City Hall

9:18 ↗ there is a church that is a single

9:20 ↗ family zone so it would be allowed in

9:22 ↗ that church but not

9:24 ↗ in you can't tear down homes or take

9:29 ↗ homes and build a shelter there it just

9:32 ↗ has to go within the existing church or

9:34 ↗ the existing facility thank you yeah and

9:36 ↗ that's it was looking for clarification

9:38 ↗ because it went too fast for me and then

9:40 ↗ that's noted in the permitted uses table

9:42 ↗ too in the draft that we have and then

9:44 ↗ the second thing was that you um just

9:46 ↗ use the word

9:48 ↗ existing um does that mean that no new

9:52 ↗ churches could take on emergency shelter

9:56 ↗ use no I just mean existing at the time

9:58 ↗ of the

9:59 ↗ emergency so yeah at the time of the

10:04 ↗ emergency right okay

10:10 ↗ right Mr Kennedy oh sorry I

10:14 ↗ should sorry hey we're playing tugar

10:18 ↗ over here um couple questions one can

10:21 ↗ you provide some context on the basis

10:22 ↗ for establishing the half mile spacing

10:25 ↗ um because some of the examples you

10:27 ↗ brought up like what if it's a city hall

10:28 ↗ in the commity Community Center um how

10:31 ↗ how does that work with the spacing

10:33 ↗ requirement yeah good point um we do

10:36 ↗ need to do some measurements

10:38 ↗ yeah

10:40 ↗ um yeah most cities have used a half a

10:43 ↗ mile um that's I'm I'm gonna look into

10:47 ↗ that one I had thought about those two

10:48 ↗ particular I've thought about other ones

10:50 ↗ but not those two I that's very specific

10:51 ↗ but good point um the other thing I was

10:54 ↗ curious about is and let me know if I'm

10:56 ↗ jumping ahead here but looking at the

10:57 ↗ actual um uh draft of the the code on

11:02 ↗ the Emergency Shelters it mentions

11:03 ↗ permitting and I'm curious how that

11:06 ↗ works is it like a designation thing

11:07 ↗ where you're like a permitted space in

11:10 ↗ the event of an emergency versus like

11:12 ↗ I'm assuming if an emergency happens

11:14 ↗ we're not going to you know go through a

11:15 ↗ permitting process In the Heat of the

11:17 ↗ Moment so exact help me understand that

11:19 ↗ that piece right and I'll I'll double

11:21 ↗ check it I thought the language was in

11:22 ↗ there but in in case of emergency I

11:24 ↗ believe that no they do not have to go

11:25 ↗ through that

11:28 ↗ process

11:30 ↗ commissioner

11:33 ↗ Kennedy so is there a comprehensive list

11:36 ↗ of the public or religious spaces that

11:41 ↗ would be part of this broader zoning I'm

11:46 ↗ thinking of um the city has turn that

11:50 ↗ off the city has a comp obviously we

11:53 ↗ have a comprehensive list of our

11:55 ↗ facilities and Human Services is working

11:57 ↗ with churches well and

12:00 ↗ so a definition of churches meaning a

12:01 ↗ building or not not just churches

12:03 ↗ religious facilities I apologize okay

12:05 ↗ meaning a building that is built solely

12:07 ↗ for religious purposes because I think

12:09 ↗ of examples like leley Hall which I

12:11 ↗ believe is private the Highland but is

12:13 ↗ used on Sundays as a

12:15 ↗ church so just when you're defining

12:18 ↗ things someone might be like oh that's

12:19 ↗ my church I go to Blakeley hall and then

12:21 ↗ it's a private facility MH just so that

12:25 ↗ we're clear as to what we're defining as

12:27 ↗ the spaces to be used for these purposes

12:30 ↗ if we're throwing around terms like

12:32 ↗ churches right and Blakeley Hall is cons

12:36 ↗ it's sort of the Isco Highland's

12:37 ↗ Community Center but it's not public

12:39 ↗ correct yeah but it's used as a church I

12:41 ↗ would consider it a community facility

12:43 ↗ because it has more uses than just a

12:45 ↗ church I mean the primary use of that

12:48 ↗ facility is not church it's not a temple

12:51 ↗ it's not anything like that that's not

12:52 ↗ the primary use it's not so that's a

12:55 ↗ good point so we may need to clarify and

12:57 ↗ say where the primary use is a Rel

12:59 ↗ religious facility that was my point

13:01 ↗ that we we very clear about what we're

13:03 ↗ defining as those spaces yeah that's a

13:05 ↗ good point yes commissioner crass oh

13:08 ↗ sorry oh sorry I'll be quick um I

13:12 ↗ think what we're all kind of getting to

13:14 ↗ is like it may be better to look at a

13:16 ↗ map without the areas but just very

13:19 ↗ specific where all the places where

13:21 ↗ these could be like the churches the

13:25 ↗ public facilities and you could see

13:28 ↗ those dots on on a map would be more

13:30 ↗ representative than the entire city

13:33 ↗ that's colored because this is like the

13:35 ↗ entire city that's colored so that

13:36 ↗ doesn't that that doesn't give any real

13:39 ↗ guidance so is that a possible thing to

13:40 ↗ have only look at that because then you

13:43 ↗ can see where they're going to be

13:46 ↗ concentrated we can yeah absolutely we

13:49 ↗ can map that out for next time but also

13:51 ↗ remember that a state of emergency I

13:53 ↗ mean the city of isqua could flood and

13:57 ↗ you have thousands of people who need a

13:59 ↗ place to stay so you don't necessarily

14:01 ↗ want to limit it too much I'm not saying

14:03 ↗ limit it but at least people understand

14:04 ↗ because right now if you showed this to

14:06 ↗ the public they're going to think just

14:07 ↗ like we just had a 10-minute

14:08 ↗ conversation these are going to be

14:10 ↗ everywhere in every house across the

14:12 ↗ city where that's just a much clearer

14:14 ↗ way of

14:15 ↗ representing the full stack of where

14:19 ↗ they can end it okay that's just

14:22 ↗ Clarity okay we can show that on a map

14:24 ↗ next

14:26 ↗ time yeah I think um a little bit

14:29 ↗ digressing but do you point about the

14:32 ↗ half a mile distance I believe that's

14:34 ↗ actually based on if it's an emergency

14:36 ↗ and somebody actually shows up in one

14:39 ↗ shelter and I believe these shelters

14:41 ↗ have capacity um limits so if it's

14:44 ↗ closed to receiving new

14:46 ↗ people half a mile is a distance but

14:49 ↗ it's better than going a mile to the

14:51 ↗ next shelter basically and so I believe

14:54 ↗ that's the parameters around why it's

14:56 ↗ half a mile I mean could be less or it

14:58 ↗ could be

14:59 ↗ more per

15:00 ↗ se yeah no I'm just saying in general

15:04 ↗ like could it be less an know but of

15:06 ↗ course it's also going to depend on the

15:08 ↗ geography and the locations of where um

15:12 ↗ those facilities can be placed we will

15:14 ↗ we will definitely check out the

15:15 ↗ distance thank

15:19 ↗ you yeah I have a clarifying question on

15:22 ↗ like what emergency means because my

15:24 ↗ first interpretation was is that was it

15:27 ↗ like if an individual is experiencing an

15:29 ↗ emergency you know like a domestic

15:31 ↗ violence situation right that this is a

15:33 ↗ place where they can go and so it's not

15:35 ↗ something that's only open when like

15:37 ↗ there's a flood or you know a really hot

15:39 ↗ day or something like that and so I

15:41 ↗ guess like are these permanent

15:43 ↗ facilities for individuals experiencing

15:44 ↗ emergencies or is it like if there's a

15:46 ↗ community emergency um I'm probably

15:49 ↗ going to phone a friend but um my

15:52 ↗ understanding is is that these would be

15:54 ↗ temporary facilities for emergencies

15:56 ↗ because there are when you get into

15:57 ↗ emergency housing that would be more of

15:59 ↗ a domestic violence

16:00 ↗ situation yeah

16:05 ↗ friend so I was actually wondering

16:08 ↗ excuse me the same thing and I know that

16:11 ↗ uh what used to be called congregations

16:13 ↗ for the homeless porch light has been in

16:14 ↗ the esab boundaries and that would be

16:18 ↗ colloquially called an emergency shelter

16:20 ↗ and so what code was that under before

16:23 ↗ that that was allowed here it

16:26 ↗ wasn't but it was because it was on

16:28 ↗ faith community l land that they to do

16:30 ↗ that and going back then to the faith

16:33 ↗ community piece too I would specify

16:36 ↗ ownership so is the property owned owned

16:39 ↗ by a faith community so not just

16:40 ↗ necessarily primary use but owned by the

16:42 ↗ Faith by because then it's it's

16:45 ↗ clearer okay

16:48 ↗ great great yeah commissioner migan uh

16:52 ↗ thank you so can we go back to um Vice

16:54 ↗ chair Bader's question does this

16:57 ↗ category include individuals seeking

17:01 ↗ shelter for their own emergencies no it

17:04 ↗ does not that would fall under emergency

17:06 ↗ housing which is next this is called

17:08 ↗ Emergency Shelters shelters and when I

17:11 ↗ was jotting down the different

17:14 ↗ categories were going to be emergency

17:16 ↗ transitional and supportive or you're

17:19 ↗ saying there's an additional one called

17:21 ↗ emergency housing correct there's

17:23 ↗ Emergency Shelters there are Emergency

17:25 ↗ Shelters and then there are emergency

17:27 ↗ housing and permanent supportive in

17:29 ↗ transition got it thank you can I ask

17:31 ↗ one more question uh is the um the

17:34 ↗ number

17:35 ↗ 50 I don't know if I care that much I

17:37 ↗ was thinking of proportionality um to

17:40 ↗ the city our size and you had a range

17:43 ↗ that you were looking at and you decide

17:45 ↗ to go with a higher range in this draft

17:47 ↗ is there are there other cities our size

17:50 ↗ that are doing 50 this is just based on

17:53 ↗ what we there are some that go bigger

17:55 ↗ BBY goes bigger I think they're

17:57 ↗ 100

17:59 ↗ pardon me yeah well and I think their

18:02 ↗ number is bigger I think their number is

18:03 ↗ 100 per

18:04 ↗ facility um we just yeah this is just

18:07 ↗ based on what we've experienced in the

18:09 ↗ past and allows for a buffer for the

18:16 ↗ future I think I have a better question

18:18 ↗ about the permitting piece I was looking

18:20 ↗ a little closer at the code um letter A

18:24 ↗ in the emergency shelter talks about a

18:25 ↗ temporary use permit for emergency

18:28 ↗ shelter and then Le D talks about more

18:30 ↗ of the U what you were referring to of

18:33 ↗ it not being required in an emergency I

18:35 ↗ think it might contradict a little bit

18:38 ↗ that my understanding is not clear okay

18:42 ↗ I'm going to check that one out the

18:44 ↗ permitting all

18:47 ↗ right I'm not a current planner so I

18:50 ↗ need to do a little research on that

18:52 ↗ one any other

18:55 ↗ questions Ken are schools included

19:02 ↗ no that's not what we were considering

19:08 ↗ no but they but but that doesn't mean

19:10 ↗ that they can't be I mean we can look

19:11 ↗ into it we just said public when we were

19:14 ↗ said public facilities and we were

19:15 ↗ thinking city-owned public facilities

19:18 ↗ but we can

19:22 ↗ certainly so you all so you all would

19:25 ↗ like to include schools

19:27 ↗ potentially l of

19:34 ↗ nodding I mean I think if if we're

19:36 ↗ talking about you know emergencies it's

19:39 ↗ really cold or it's really hot we need

19:41 ↗ to give several people shelter from that

19:45 ↗ and potentially some

19:47 ↗ food I mean during the week obviously

19:50 ↗ during the school year it doesn't work

19:51 ↗ very well but on the weekends or the

19:52 ↗ evenings or whatever I mean they do have

19:56 ↗ big common areas and kitchens

19:59 ↗ okay

20:02 ↗ okay I mean is there like a a more of a

20:06 ↗ clarification like like you said during

20:08 ↗ the school year ISS are going to be

20:10 ↗ going to school so is it something more

20:13 ↗ so if like a a flood happens or an

20:16 ↗ earthquake happens then that's the place

20:19 ↗ everyone goes to as opposed to if

20:21 ↗ somebody in that emergency situation is

20:25 ↗ losing their home and they're going to

20:26 ↗ be homeless I'm not sure if that a

20:29 ↗ school would apply in that end at Le

20:32 ↗ school year so if someone's going to be

20:33 ↗ losing their is at risk of becoming

20:35 ↗ homeless yeah then that's more of an

20:37 ↗ emergency housing situation or a

20:38 ↗ permanent Supportive Housing situation

20:41 ↗ or transitional any of those um the

20:44 ↗ other one could apply but it could

20:45 ↗ happen during the school say it's really

20:46 ↗ really hot one day and people who are

20:49 ↗ homeless need a place to go cool off and

20:51 ↗ stay safe and get food that would be a

20:54 ↗ state of emergency which in case in

20:57 ↗ which case no a school might not be used

20:58 ↗ if it's in

21:00 ↗ September so yeah that's where I was

21:02 ↗ looking at the clarification or even

21:04 ↗ some boundaries on that end on where to

21:07 ↗ pick depending on the emergency event

21:11 ↗ per

21:13 ↗ se I'm looking at the definition of

21:15 ↗ emergency shelter too and kind of what

21:18 ↗ we're talking about is like right if

21:19 ↗ there's heat wave and people don't have

21:21 ↗ air conditioning and they're not

21:23 ↗ homeless right they it's just their

21:25 ↗ homes are inadequate for that moment yet

21:28 ↗ the definition says it's for individuals

21:30 ↗ or families who are currently homeless

21:32 ↗ right I know and I don't okay so we just

21:35 ↗ need to fix that one well and you know

21:37 ↗ we talked about it because you do have

21:38 ↗ emergencies where you have flooding

21:40 ↗ especially you know around here perhaps

21:42 ↗ with the squad Creek and then people

21:43 ↗ need places to go so yeah and that's for

21:46 ↗ temporary shelter right clearly that one

21:50 ↗ needs to be fixed so yeah I will um

21:53 ↗ we'll work on that

21:55 ↗ one okay yeah commissioner Patterson

21:59 ↗ um one other distinction I wanted to ask

22:02 ↗ about was the big uh word I saw in

22:05 ↗ emergency shelter was no overnight

22:09 ↗ versus emergency housing which as I

22:11 ↗ understand would mean more overnight you

22:14 ↗ know stays how does that pertain I'm

22:17 ↗ thinking again like the situation of

22:18 ↗ like say a 100 people are displaced due

22:21 ↗ to an emergency like

22:22 ↗ flooding and they can't go to their

22:25 ↗ homes you can do it overnight it just

22:28 ↗ says it that yeah it just says that it

22:29 ↗ may also include day shelter and warming

22:33 ↗ centers okay yeah so they can stay there

22:36 ↗ overnight I think okay commissioner

22:41 ↗ Kennedy um not to rat Hol us but now I'm

22:45 ↗ thinking

22:46 ↗ of

22:48 ↗ Staffing because like it's Community

22:50 ↗ Center there's usually staff there but

22:52 ↗ say we do go down the road of schools

22:54 ↗ and it's the middle of summer and it's

22:55 ↗ really hot and no one's there to

22:59 ↗ actually let anyone in and staff it and

23:02 ↗ do what needs to be done in that

23:03 ↗ building because it's fairly closed

23:06 ↗ during the

23:07 ↗ summer just as we think through what

23:09 ↗ this List look like list looks like and

23:12 ↗ really defining what these potential

23:14 ↗ facilities

23:16 ↗ are how we staff them if they're not

23:18 ↗ normally staffed at a time when we could

23:21 ↗ otherwise use them so one of the things

23:25 ↗ that we required is an operational plan

23:27 ↗ so if a site is identified ahead of time

23:29 ↗ they need to provide us with an

23:30 ↗ operational plan and say this is who you

23:33 ↗ know this is who gets to come in they

23:35 ↗ homeless they you know have to be out by

23:39 ↗ 8 o'clock or if it's a daytime Center it

23:41 ↗ doesn't matter they have to be in by 8

23:43 ↗ o'clock at night um there are

23:45 ↗ operational plans that are in place for

23:46 ↗ those as well so if you're looking at

23:49 ↗ the unlikely case of flooding in

23:51 ↗ everybody it happened happened before

23:53 ↗ but you know a less likely case that

23:56 ↗ it's going to be everybody has has to

23:58 ↗ abandon their houses and go we need to

24:01 ↗ work on that situation but as far as you

24:03 ↗ know it was what this I think was

24:05 ↗ originally talking about was you need

24:07 ↗ shelters for people who need a place to

24:09 ↗ go during the day when it's hot then we

24:11 ↗ will

24:12 ↗ have there has to be staff in place

24:14 ↗ there have to be there has to be an

24:16 ↗ organization that knows how to manage

24:18 ↗ these that provide us with an

24:20 ↗ operational plan and contact people so

24:22 ↗ that would be in

24:25 ↗ place yeah commissioner

24:27 ↗ Al

24:33 ↗ thank you uh emergency housing and

24:35 ↗ emergency shelter are those from the

24:37 ↗ state law or are those in our code State

24:40 ↗ okay makes no sense I know we've had a

24:43 ↗ TR we've had some trouble with it and

24:45 ↗ and even doing some research and looking

24:47 ↗ at other

24:48 ↗ codes um they're all very similar to

24:51 ↗ that they sort of adopted the states and

24:52 ↗ then you kind of look around and it does

24:54 ↗ it gets very confusing so so it's not

24:57 ↗ just me we need clar if yeah it is is

25:00 ↗ definitely not just but that that's the

25:02 ↗ states and it's it's not real clear yeah

25:04 ↗ okay because emergency housing saying

25:06 ↗ temporary indoor accommodation and then

25:08 ↗ emergency shelter facility that provides

25:10 ↗ temporary shelter for people who are

25:12 ↗ currently homeless there's so much

25:13 ↗ overlap in those two things yes um I

25:16 ↗ agree so I think it would is it seems

25:19 ↗ like isqua could then apply definitions

25:21 ↗ to these two things that would not run a

25:23 ↗ foul of this but would be provide

25:25 ↗ Clarity between the two yes yeah

25:29 ↗ okay I'm just

25:32 ↗ thinking yeah commissioner M thank you

25:35 ↗ so you could add to the definition that

25:38 ↗ it provides for those who currently

25:40 ↗ homeless and others in need of

25:43 ↗ shelter right okay uh and the other was

25:46 ↗ and thank you all for bringing your code

25:48 ↗ with you I I don't have my computer with

25:50 ↗ me the um two more questions uh the

25:55 ↗ emergency is it a declared state of

25:58 ↗ emergency how do we determine there is

26:00 ↗ an emergency yes and that's what it says

26:01 ↗ in the code it says a u a declared local

26:05 ↗ County or state local local K you know

26:07 ↗ all the government okay thankes and then

26:09 ↗ that brings me to my last question is

26:11 ↗ that if I understand correctly this is

26:13 ↗ about an allowed use in a use table with

26:17 ↗ these stipulations and so it doesn't

26:19 ↗ mean that it because it's allowed that

26:22 ↗ it is a shelter correct correct it's

26:25 ↗ allowed to be a shelter and so just

26:28 ↗ because you have a school when we

26:31 ↗ declare a state of emergency doesn't

26:32 ↗ mean that that school is an emergency

26:34 ↗ shelter no and that's why I said the

26:36 ↗ human human services staff is working

26:38 ↗ with these facilities to get agreements

26:40 ↗ because we just can't say you're a

26:41 ↗ shelter we have to have agreements with

26:43 ↗ these places before yes it can happen

26:45 ↗ good and okay yeah yes

26:50 ↗ okay anything

26:52 ↗ else we got through

26:54 ↗ it okay going once

27:00 ↗ okay so now

27:05 ↗ um there we go moving on to emergency

27:08 ↗ house so I'm going to talk about these

27:10 ↗ three so emergency housing these are all

27:12 ↗ going to fall under Supportive Housing

27:13 ↗ first one I'm going to talk about is

27:14 ↗ emergency housing so the

27:17 ↗ state the state requirements and

27:19 ↗ definitions a temporary shelter for

27:21 ↗ those who are homeless or at imminent

27:23 ↗ risk of becoming homeless okay so this

27:27 ↗ is what we have now now over at Motel 6

27:30 ↗ where people need a place to stay for a

27:33 ↗ few months help them get back on their

27:34 ↗ feet um they address the basic needs um

27:38 ↗ they may not again require a lease or an

27:41 ↗ occupancy agreement and they must be

27:43 ↗ allowed where hotels and residential

27:45 ↗ uses are allowed a

27:49 ↗ requirement permanent Supportive

27:52 ↗ Housing uh it is subsidized least

27:55 ↗ housing with no limit on the time of

27:58 ↗ today IT addresses again the basic needs

28:00 ↗ basic human needs and prioritizes people

28:03 ↗ who need comprehensive Support Services

28:05 ↗ to help retain tency so somebody's

28:08 ↗ struggling they've had an apartment

28:09 ↗ they're about to lose it they need help

28:11 ↗ on how to manage a budget so that they

28:13 ↗ can stay in that place those are some of

28:15 ↗ the support services continued voluntary

28:18 ↗ services are provided for those with

28:20 ↗ complex Behavioral or health behavioral

28:23 ↗ health or physical

28:25 ↗ issues um and they must be allowed where

28:29 ↗ hotels and residential uses are allowed

28:32 ↗ well so this is more very akin to say

28:36 ↗ Leo house where are you all familiar

28:39 ↗ with that where people maybe older

28:41 ↗ people with mental disabilities cannot

28:43 ↗ live on their own and they need

28:44 ↗ permanent support of hous they may be

28:46 ↗ able to transition out but it may be a

28:50 ↗ permanent transitional housing we

28:52 ↗ actually have right now about 100

28:54 ↗ transitional housing units in the city

28:56 ↗ these are already allowed um There Rose

28:58 ↗ Crest and the

29:00 ↗ YWCA Monty house yeah a few other places

29:04 ↗ we already have this here um it's

29:06 ↗ housing and supportive services to

29:07 ↗ homeless persons or families for up to

29:09 ↗ two years it may sometimes be extended

29:13 ↗ by the program that's running it but

29:15 ↗ it's usually about two years facilities

29:17 ↗ uh facilitates movement of homeless

29:19 ↗ persons to independent living and then

29:23 ↗ they again it must be allowed where

29:24 ↗ hotels and residential uses are allowed

29:27 ↗ you see they're all allowed they're all

29:28 ↗ required to be allowed in the same

29:29 ↗ spaces we group them together because

29:31 ↗ they're very

29:33 ↗ similar um so for the density for these

29:36 ↗ they are limited in the mixed use and

29:39 ↗ Commercial zones they're limited to 100

29:41 ↗ residents

29:42 ↗ [Music]

29:43 ↗ per um per facility and there's no

29:46 ↗ distance limitation on these and so we

29:50 ↗ did that because if you are

29:52 ↗ in

29:54 ↗ um say the urban core there is no

29:57 ↗ density requirement there and you could

29:58 ↗ have 500 units which um may get some

30:04 ↗ resistance to it we want these to be

30:05 ↗ welcome welcoming places um if you are

30:08 ↗ in a residential Zone any of the single

30:10 ↗ family or multif family zones those are

30:12 ↗ automatically limited uh they have

30:14 ↗ limited density so it's up to 29 units

30:17 ↗ per acre in U uh multif family high and

30:22 ↗ then you know single family Suburban is

30:23 ↗ four and a half units breaker so

30:25 ↗ whatever however many residents can fit

30:27 ↗ within those units per acre that's what

30:29 ↗ is

30:31 ↗ allowed they also must provide an

30:33 ↗ operational plan just like the shelters

30:36 ↗ and these will always have someone these

30:38 ↗ are typically facilities that will be

30:40 ↗ built or purchased by a program and they

30:43 ↗ will have people who nonprofits that run

30:47 ↗ these facilities they uh will have

30:49 ↗ Safety and Security plans just like the

30:51 ↗ others they will have a code of conduct

30:53 ↗ for residents and they are provided to

30:55 ↗ have a community repl relations plan

30:58 ↗ so this is all the zones where those are

31:01 ↗ required to be allowed by the

31:03 ↗ state all residential zones and all

31:05 ↗ zones where hotels are

31:09 ↗ allowed um before I go on any questions

31:11 ↗ about these three yeah Rich

31:14 ↗ CR I have three I'll start with the

31:17 ↗ easiest one okay um so the two years for

31:22 ↗ transitional um what what drove to seems

31:26 ↗ like a very long time or transitional

31:28 ↗ versus like one year one's the state one

31:31 ↗ is that I'm going to I assume this is

31:33 ↗ what typically transitional this is

31:35 ↗ typically what the programs offer or

31:37 ↗ what the nonprofits offer but my my I'm

31:39 ↗ going to guess that I have I have a

31:41 ↗ feeling that commissioner altimore is

31:42 ↗ going to jump in here too but that's

31:44 ↗ about how long it would take to help

31:46 ↗ somebody get back onto their feet but

31:48 ↗ commissioner

31:50 ↗ osore it's a HUD tribulation is it ah

31:53 ↗ thank you that that answer is that okay

31:55 ↗ okay yeah see I told you person was easy

31:57 ↗ learn something new every

31:58 ↗ um thank you the hund 100 residents like

32:02 ↗ we had the conversation about 50 earlier

32:03 ↗ where did the Hundred come from because

32:05 ↗ that seems that could be large also so

32:08 ↗ um or is that also mapped to

32:11 ↗ something and that's that's what most

32:14 ↗ most areas most cities have used is 100

32:17 ↗ yeah and then my harder question um

32:21 ↗ which was in some of the materials but

32:23 ↗ we didn't really talk about it except it

32:24 ↗ was one line of it's about code of

32:26 ↗ conduct what's allowed in these things

32:28 ↗ and the definition of what is actually

32:30 ↗ in code of conduct and for

32:33 ↗ example could there be a stipulation if

32:35 ↗ it's not already there that there's no

32:37 ↗ illegal drug use to be in these areas

32:40 ↗ yes and from what I've seen most of them

32:42 ↗ include it you are allowed to screen who

32:44 ↗ goes into these facilities but can you

32:47 ↗ be kicked out of these if you're doing

32:48 ↗ drugs in that um I mean they're illegal

32:53 ↗ so yes so um oh wait good thank you I

32:56 ↗ love my friend oh I'm just curious

32:58 ↗ what's actually in the conduct if that's

33:01 ↗ um so you're not for transitional

33:03 ↗ housing you have to have a lease and you

33:04 ↗ have to be under Fair Housing and the

33:06 ↗ landlord tenant act and so that lease in

33:10 ↗ any of your code of conduct or any uh

33:12 ↗ program agreement that you have cannot

33:14 ↗ supersede anything that is in landlord

33:16 ↗ tenant law or in uh fair fair tenant

33:19 ↗ rights and so for legal drug use you can

33:23 ↗ have what's called sober living but if

33:25 ↗ it is not a designated sober living

33:27 ↗ facility you cannot absolutely by

33:30 ↗ definition kick someone out for illegal

33:32 ↗ drug use for any of

33:35 ↗ these well unless it's just a nightly

33:37 ↗ shelter if it's somewhere where someone

33:39 ↗ uh can stay multiple nights that they're

33:41 ↗ moving into a unit or moving into a a

33:43 ↗ certain designated area you have to

33:45 ↗ follow landlord tenant law and so that

33:48 ↗ means can you actually go for an

33:51 ↗ eviction and they are very very

33:54 ↗ difficult again so go back to the Mot

33:57 ↗ six

33:58 ↗ exam can they be doing meth in those

34:01 ↗ rooms can

34:05 ↗ they so it depends if they are just

34:08 ↗ nightly where someone shows up at

34:10 ↗ whatever time and says I need a place to

34:12 ↗ stay and they're given a bed then if

34:15 ↗ they are found to be smoking meth then

34:17 ↗ the operators could say you have to

34:18 ↗ leave this is against our our code of

34:20 ↗ conduct if it is multiple nights where

34:23 ↗ there is an assumed living tency uh

34:26 ↗ agreement some sort of either real lease

34:28 ↗ or an assumed lease then no they would

34:30 ↗ have to actually go through an eviction

34:35 ↗ process yeah so if someone comes in and

34:38 ↗ stays for more than one night in Motel 6

34:41 ↗ considered a tenant and they can do

34:42 ↗ whatever they want and you can't get

34:43 ↗ them out is that I'm just trying to

34:46 ↗ understand where the lines are I know

34:48 ↗ I'm coming off as being very harsh on

34:49 ↗ this one but it's I think the clarity is

34:52 ↗ important I'll take I'll take the barbs

34:54 ↗ on this one there was a situation uh

34:56 ↗ within our city a few years ago where

34:58 ↗ someone was squatting in a um a storage

35:03 ↗ unit and the owner of the storage unit

35:06 ↗ had to go through the courts for

35:07 ↗ eviction we are a state that has very uh

35:11 ↗ protective landlord tenants and so I

35:14 ↗ can't say at Motel 6 what their

35:16 ↗ situation is I just know that if there

35:17 ↗ is an assumed tency and you then you

35:21 ↗ would have to potentially go through the

35:22 ↗ court ultimately it comes down to the

35:24 ↗ city attorney and so whoever's operating

35:26 ↗ Motel Motel six would they would have to

35:30 ↗ call the cops and say I need you to

35:32 ↗ remove this person and the the isqua

35:34 ↗ police would then go by the rules that

35:36 ↗ they are told or go back and get an

35:38 ↗ opinion from the

35:40 ↗ city thanks I know was a hard subject

35:43 ↗ has this been an issue yet there or is

35:45 ↗ this all theoretical is this at Motel 6

35:48 ↗ I don't know not that I'm aware of okay

35:51 ↗ I just didn't wants to be the Haven for

35:54 ↗ some stay

35:55 ↗ in where other cities could be

35:59 ↗ it's it's really there's very little

36:01 ↗ that has anything to do with city

36:02 ↗ regulations landlord tenant law is is

36:05 ↗ State and it really there's there's just

36:07 ↗ not a lot of of leeway

36:11 ↗ there thank you commissioner alore

36:14 ↗ another question yeah

36:17 ↗ commission okay I have another question

36:19 ↗ but I'm just going to finish this up so

36:22 ↗ did anyone say that there could be a

36:25 ↗ rule that illegal drug use is not

36:28 ↗ allowed on these this property and if

36:31 ↗ you are caught doing it we'll put you

36:33 ↗ through the eviction process as long as

36:35 ↗ it's a propertywide rule somebody say

36:38 ↗ that or did I

36:43 ↗ misunderstand do in theory you can but

36:48 ↗ you have to go through the

36:50 ↗ courts in theory you can correct

36:54 ↗ M there is there is somewhat of a threat

36:58 ↗ yes but I also do want to say that there

37:00 ↗ isn't a necessary propensity of the

37:02 ↗ people who would be living in this house

37:04 ↗ not saying I think that um I am and and

37:07 ↗ and and maybe commissioner CR can speak

37:09 ↗ up too I think we're trying to glean

37:11 ↗ from what we've heard the public talk

37:13 ↗ about and and try to address what

37:14 ↗ concerns there might be especially since

37:16 ↗ nobody's speaking to us tonight and try

37:19 ↗ to um guess and ask those questions for

37:21 ↗ them yeah and then uh another question

37:26 ↗ if

37:28 ↗ uh you said that in the um Urban core or

37:31 ↗ wherever it was uh it was limited by

37:33 ↗ number of

37:35 ↗ people and then you said in the

37:38 ↗ residential areas it was limited by the

37:40 ↗ number of units but is there a limit in

37:45 ↗ a unit of how many people can live

37:49 ↗ there not anymore um the state the state

37:53 ↗ has said that you could no longer say

37:56 ↗ how many unrelated people can you live

37:58 ↗ in a unit together but not anymore so in

38:03 ↗ essence there's a limit in the urban

38:06 ↗ core and there is no limit in the

38:08 ↗ residential areas based on the

38:11 ↗ technicality of

38:13 ↗ that yes okay that seems like a problem

38:17 ↗ and and then um let me just wrap up with

38:19 ↗ that that these problems that you see um

38:23 ↗ some of them will need to be elevated

38:24 ↗ back to the state to clarify because

38:26 ↗ sometimes they're in best intentions

38:28 ↗ they wrote it this way and they didn't

38:29 ↗ realize oh shoot it's going to that

38:31 ↗ doesn't work so I hope that the city

38:33 ↗ will um not just uh take it on the chin

38:36 ↗ but Elevate and educate the state

38:40 ↗ um lawmakers

38:46 ↗ to thank you I just wanted to add that

38:49 ↗ uh most of the funding sources do come

38:52 ↗ with some limits on occupancy so for

38:54 ↗ instance if you have a Section 8 voucher

38:56 ↗ or a tenant base based uh either tenant

38:58 ↗ based or property based Section 8

39:00 ↗ voucher there's a two plus one rule so

39:02 ↗ you can have up to two people per

39:04 ↗ bedroom and one in a common of and so

39:06 ↗ there's lots of different funding

39:08 ↗ sources that do limit occupancy because

39:10 ↗ what they don't want is um inhume or

39:13 ↗ unsafe living situations and so there

39:16 ↗ are some Governors on that this really

39:18 ↗ came up around group home discussions

39:20 ↗ because a lot of cities were trying to

39:22 ↗ stop a group homes like Leo

39:26 ↗ house and there is a public safety

39:28 ↗ aspect to all of this that you have to

39:30 ↗ abide by the by the public safety you

39:32 ↗ know laws that are there

39:37 ↗ so and then I and to that you know I

39:40 ↗ know that a regional Coalition for a

39:41 ↗ regional Coalition for housing is us is

39:43 ↗ often one of the funders in our

39:46 ↗ local affordable housing units and they

39:48 ↗ always have conditions that are tied and

39:50 ↗ they they require operational plans as

39:55 ↗ well any other question

39:58 ↗ questions

40:00 ↗ p in regards to the U operational plan

40:05 ↗ is there any criteria for that besides

40:07 ↗ kind of those three sections that are

40:08 ↗ required like is there anything more

40:11 ↗ that they have to

40:12 ↗ supply within those sections I guess no

40:16 ↗ and you know a lot of cities are

40:17 ↗ requiring they're getting really really

40:19 ↗ specific on what what can be required or

40:21 ↗ what is required in the operational

40:23 ↗ plans

40:26 ↗ um but the thing is is that the state

40:28 ↗ doesn't mandate it so when we showed

40:31 ↗ this to our City attorney there can be a

40:33 ↗ lot of legal issues that come up if

40:34 ↗ you're requiring things but they already

40:37 ↗ require they're used to having to do it

40:38 ↗ you know organizations are used to

40:40 ↗ having to do operational plans and

40:41 ↗ they've kind of figured out what works

40:42 ↗ and what doesn't um it is going to sit

40:44 ↗ with the police department um so they

40:47 ↗ will they will have a copy of it so if

40:49 ↗ it gets if they're having trouble or

40:51 ↗ something they can refer to that but no

40:54 ↗ we we opted not to for legal reasons and

40:57 ↗ so is there any opportunity to like

40:59 ↗ approve or reject or is it basically

41:00 ↗ like check these boxes and it's you've

41:04 ↗ you've checked our box check the boxes

41:06 ↗ and you know they want to be they you

41:07 ↗ know they want to be good neighbors sure

41:09 ↗ so you know they want to stay there whe

41:17 ↗ they're sorry I promised to keep these

41:19 ↗ quick so those requirements generally

41:21 ↗ come with the service funding you have

41:23 ↗ to submit a really detailed plan of what

41:26 ↗ you're going to do and how you're going

41:27 ↗ to manage the facility Staffing numbers

41:29 ↗ Etc and you can't operate these

41:31 ↗ facilities without the money to operate

41:34 ↗ so the requirements do come just

41:36 ↗ generally not through the

41:41 ↗ code I have a really like

41:45 ↗ minor question comment the definitions

41:48 ↗ can be like slightly edited yes as long

41:52 ↗ as the intent isn't okay so I have a

41:53 ↗ slight edit that I would recommend is

41:55 ↗ just in the transitional housing in um

41:57 ↗ definition to use person first language

42:00 ↗ um so instead of homeless persons use

42:02 ↗ persons experiencing homelessness okay

42:04 ↗ oh

42:10 ↗ okay yeah wait could you I'm sorry could

42:13 ↗ you say that again instead of homeless

42:15 ↗ persons it's like people experiencing

42:17 ↗ homelessness okay thank you homelessness

42:20 ↗ is not what defines them as a person

42:22 ↗ thank you thank you for that so I had

42:25 ↗ the same thing at that thank you for

42:26 ↗ bringing that up but um the permanent

42:29 ↗ Supportive Housing Hud's definition is

42:31 ↗ really clear and so I think it would be

42:33 ↗ worthwhile to go out and grab that um

42:35 ↗ because it's a lot clearer than the

42:36 ↗ states and you wouldn't be messing with

42:38 ↗ the state's

42:40 ↗ intent

42:44 ↗ okay anything

42:48 ↗ else very educational okay um timeline

42:53 ↗ so you all are doing the initial review

42:55 ↗ we are bringing back for a public

42:56 ↗ hearing at our meeting so we will bring

43:00 ↗ these proposed changes that you all have

43:01 ↗ recommended as long as a m along with

43:03 ↗ the map um we will reinvestigate the

43:06 ↗ half a mile distance um and several

43:09 ↗ other things that are here um and talk

43:12 ↗ with human services about who they're

43:15 ↗ talking with or how it's going really

43:18 ↗ probably not who they're talking with um

43:20 ↗ so the public hearing would be March

43:22 ↗ 28th in theory the uh plan it would go

43:26 ↗ to the planning development and

43:28 ↗ environment committee on April 2nd for a

43:30 ↗ recommendation and then Council action

43:32 ↗ on May

43:35 ↗ 6th so those those can change that's

43:37 ↗ tenative and then so I think we've

43:40 ↗ covered these but are there any other um

43:44 ↗ regulations that should be considered uh

43:47 ↗ regarding public health and safety that

43:49 ↗ should be included in the

43:55 ↗ ordinance anything else

43:59 ↗ going once going

44:03 ↗ twice got everything you need okay and

44:06 ↗ remember there's email too so if you all

44:08 ↗ think of anything between now and next

44:10 ↗ Thursday

44:13 ↗ yeah and that's all I have you Christen

44:17 ↗ thank you

44:18 ↗ Commissioners

44:20 ↗ um assuming you have everything you need

44:22 ↗ we can move on with our agenda to

44:25 ↗ reports are there any comments reports

44:28 ↗ so the only Council report that we have

44:30 ↗ is that

44:32 ↗ the Pioneer program went to the Council

44:36 ↗ of the whole on March 5th or 6th they

44:39 ↗ had a discussion it is going back on

44:41 ↗ March 18th uh for Council action and the

44:45 ↗ MF I think that the mfte went through

44:48 ↗ not to find that one out but the pro the

44:49 ↗ program itself is going back through on

44:52 ↗ the 18th for

44:56 ↗ action good and then um next up is other

44:59 ↗ business or announcements are there

45:01 ↗ updates to the calendar or other

45:02 ↗ business or announcement no updates to

45:05 ↗ the calendar right now um I do want to

45:07 ↗ introduce our intern Danielle salani

45:09 ↗ she's been working on our comprehensive

45:11 ↗ plan for us and on the transit um

45:14 ↗ actually why don't you tell

45:18 ↗ me hello yeah my name is Danielle um

45:21 ↗ I've been working with this group for I

45:24 ↗ think uh maybe nine months or so

45:27 ↗ roughly and I've had the chance to meet

45:28 ↗ I hand of you already so it's great to

45:30 ↗ see you guys again in person um yeah

45:32 ↗ I've had the chance to work on the

45:34 ↗ comprehensive Plan update and I've been

45:36 ↗ helping out Thomas with some of the

45:37 ↗ transit work um and yeah just helping

45:41 ↗ behind the scenes a little bit so it's

45:43 ↗ great to see everybody in person

45:45 ↗ today he thanks I guess it's a belated

45:47 ↗ welcome but um welcome and she's helping

45:51 ↗ me on the housing report card as well

45:53 ↗ which will come out at the end of March

45:55 ↗ and we'll send you all an email when

45:56 ↗ that's done

45:58 ↗ um otherwise that's it I would like to

46:00 ↗ thank you all for a very good

46:01 ↗ conversation and for commissioner

46:03 ↗ altimore for the education and the

46:05 ↗ extreme help that you provided tonight

46:07 ↗ thank

46:08 ↗ you okay so I think

46:14 ↗ yeah you can do it

46:16 ↗ now uh thank you uh I just wanted to

46:19 ↗ share that I got my dwell

46:21 ↗ magazine and it has an article about

46:25 ↗ it's a magazine

46:27 ↗ in print and one of the feature articles

46:30 ↗ is about the

46:35 ↗ um transitional housing at uh Eastgate

46:38 ↗ this one tell me shelter that's a

46:41 ↗ shelter thank you uh the one with a

46:43 ↗ mural at Eastgate uh housing for a 100

46:48 ↗ uh and it has for your operational plan

46:51 ↗ if you would read it you could maybe

46:53 ↗ find some inspiring ideas that uh

46:55 ↗ because this is pointing out how the

46:57 ↗ built environment truly helps people

46:59 ↗ move on from one condition to another

47:02 ↗ and I was really excited to read the

47:05 ↗ work about the work so that's the dwell

47:08 ↗ magazine that is

47:11 ↗ dated

47:13 ↗ April check it

47:17 ↗ out anything

47:18 ↗ else he so there being no further

47:22 ↗ business before the commission I will

47:24 ↗ adjourn this meeting at 7:22 p.m.

47:28 ↗ what

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